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| 00:09.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: why you busy failing |
| 00:11.15 | Aquir | Well I have a quick question if anyone is still up and about. I'm trying to get pitbull to return 'PET' if the target is indeed a pet. <If UnitIsPet(unit) then return 'PET' end> seems to be the wrong way to go about it, but then again I didn't work myself into lua yet :D thanks guys. |
| 00:12.58 | Lunessa | That |
| 00:13.08 | Lunessa | That doesn't appear to be a valid API call. |
| 00:14.10 | Aquir | API being..? :3 |
| 00:14.17 | ScytheBlade1 | !api unitispet |
| 00:14.20 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'unitispet'. |
| 00:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | !api unitis |
| 00:14.29 | lua_bot | Found 29 possible matches for 'unitis'. Please be more specific |
| 00:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | !api ispet |
| 00:14.43 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'ispet': IsPetAttackAction, IsPetAttackActive |
| 00:14.47 | ScytheBlade1 | close |
| 00:14.52 | ScytheBlade1 | but not idea |
| 00:15.20 | Lunessa | Aquir: application programming interface (API) |
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| 00:15.55 | Lunessa | There isn't an API in the list that is which says "that thing you're targeting is a pet." |
| 00:16.26 | alestane | !api IsPlayer |
| 00:16.28 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'IsPlayer': IsPlayerResolutionAvailable, UnitIsPlayer |
| 00:17.30 | Aquir | Hm. Pity. Thanks for looking Lunessa, Scythe and alestane. |
| 00:17.36 | alestane | There's one that I think people used to use in combination with UnitIsPlayer...UnitIsPlayerControlled or something like that. |
| 00:18.11 | alestane | If it was player-controlled but not a player, it had to be a pet. |
| 00:20.23 | alestane | !api Control |
| 00:20.25 | lua_bot | Found 26 possible matches for 'Control'. Please be more specific |
| 00:20.34 | alestane | !api Controlled |
| 00:20.37 | lua_bot | UnitPlayerControlled: Returns whether a unit is controlled by a player (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitPlayerControlled) |
| 00:20.50 | Aquir | i tried putting <return 'PET %s %s%s%s',IsPet(unit),Angle(AFK(unit) or DND(unit))> which put out PET 1 if the target was a pet and error if it wasn't. |
| 00:25.46 | ArrowmasterClass | is this in LuaText? |
| 00:26.06 | ArrowmasterClass | if so check the documentation for it |
| 00:28.45 | alestane | lua> ("%s"):format(nil) |
| 00:28.46 | lua_bot | alestane: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 00:29.06 | alestane | There's your error, I think. |
| 00:30.12 | Aquir | hm. probably. i guess i'll keep poking xD |
| 00:32.06 | alestane | You could avoid that error by replacing the phrase 'IsPet(unit)' with 'IsPet(unit) or ""', or 'tostring(IsPet(unit))'. |
| 00:34.25 | ArrowmasterClass | what are you trying to do? wouldnt that display "PET true" if it was a pet? |
| 00:34.38 | Aquir | hmmm sadly not. @alestane |
| 00:35.53 | alestane | lua> ("%s"):format(false) |
| 00:35.56 | lua_bot | alestane: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got boolean) |
| 00:36.11 | Aquir | I'm trying to have pitbull write PET if the target is indeed a pet @arrowmaster :D sounds simple enough but as I don't know lua I have more trouble with it than I should xD |
| 00:36.55 | alestane | The other issue that comes up is that IsPet isn't a WoW function, it's a LuaTexts function, so there's no general documentation on it. |
| 00:37.09 | ArrowmasterClass | IsPet(unit) Returns true if the unit is a pet. |
| 00:37.15 | ArrowmasterClass | http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/pages/lua-texts/ |
| 00:37.33 | Lunessa | *sigh* Listen people, if you're going to call your guild "For the Reich" don't be fucking shocked or amazed that Blizzard is going to make you fucking change it. |
| 00:37.52 | alestane | I suspect it's returning true in the 1nil sense. |
| 00:38.04 | ArrowmasterClass | maybe |
| 00:38.42 | ArrowmasterClass | thinks blizzard needs to stop abusing 1/nil in their own api for cata so other people will stop using it |
| 00:39.15 | alestane | It just shouldn't break that much code, though. |
| 00:40.01 | kd3 | blizz? not abuse their api? wahahaha |
| 00:40.19 | Aquir | i looked over that page arrowmaster and still couldn't make heads or tails of it xD that's why I came here and am now bugging 4 or 5 people who quite surely have a lot of better stuff to do xD |
| 00:41.06 | ArrowmasterClass | Aquir: return '%s%s%s%s',IsPet(unit) and 'PET ' or '',Angle(AFK(unit) or DND(unit)) |
| 00:41.08 | ArrowmasterClass | try that |
| 00:42.44 | Aquir | *bow* quite accurate arrowmaster. working as intended oO you make it look so easy xD |
| 00:43.41 | ArrowmasterClass | that wasnt really ment to be readable, just quick and short |
| 00:45.36 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: Guess who is getting a Nexus One for his birthday :D |
| 00:45.42 | Aquir | Quick and short works well in my experience ;3 thanks again arrow, and also alestane and lunessa :3 |
| 00:45.53 | Jerub | Antiarc: someone who hasn't put sexycooldown on wowinterface yet? |
| 00:46.04 | Antiarc | I am lazy! |
| 00:46.25 | Jerub | also, why did no one tell me how awesome power auras are? |
| 00:46.37 | Antiarc | Power Auras eats CPU for breakfast |
| 00:46.38 | Antiarc | Just FYI |
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| 00:47.00 | Lunessa | And the conditions output... makes my brain hurt. |
| 00:47.17 | Jerub | Antiarc: really? |
| 00:47.28 | Antiarc | Jerub: Yeah, even when it's not doing anything |
| 00:47.35 | Antiarc | It sits there and eats an obscene amount of CPU time |
| 00:47.37 | Jerub | Antiarc: crap. |
| 00:47.45 | Jerub | Antiarc: but its so sexy.... |
| 00:47.48 | Antiarc | I love it functionally, but I won't run it because it's such a hog |
| 00:48.01 | Jerub | Antiarc: it makes maging so easy... |
| 00:48.23 | Gnarfoz | I herd someone started writing SexyAuras |
| 00:48.30 | Gnarfoz | and then turned into ckk2 |
| 00:48.31 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 00:48.37 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: man, that's be awesome |
| 00:48.45 | Antiarc | Someone is working 80-100 hours/week on paying work |
| 00:48.53 | Gnarfoz | Jerub: it's on wowace, abandoned :p |
| 00:48.57 | Antiarc | As much as I'd like to work on addons, I don't have the time to get my real work done these days |
| 00:49.04 | Antiarc | It's on the eventual todo list |
| 00:49.06 | Gnarfoz | who works 100 hours/week |
| 00:49.14 | Antiarc | A startup CTO |
| 00:49.23 | Gnarfoz | :? |
| 00:49.35 | Antiarc | I'm half of a startup, have been for the last 3 years |
| 00:49.41 | Gnarfoz | blippr? |
| 00:49.44 | Gnarfoz | I forget |
| 00:49.45 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 00:49.51 | Antiarc | We were acquired about a year ago, and I'm continuing to work on and grow it |
| 00:50.04 | Antiarc | We're entering a new phase now, which means another project, which means a lot of work |
| 00:50.06 | Antiarc | But it's fun work |
| 00:50.09 | Antiarc | It just takes all my time. |
| 00:50.41 | Gnarfoz | I'd probably not work 100h/week, ever, how do you even survive that |
| 00:51.12 | Gnarfoz | apropos survival, I should get some sleep ;p |
| 00:52.20 | Antiarc | I don't work a standard schedule |
| 00:52.28 | Antiarc | I work when I'm sharp, and I play/sleep when I'm not |
| 00:52.44 | Antiarc | If that means I wake up and work 3 hours, then go do something else, I do that. If it means I wake up and work 30 hours, I do that. |
| 00:53.12 | Antiarc | I keep productivity high by paying attention to what my body's telling me. Rest when I need rest, work when I don't. |
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| 00:55.01 | Antiarc | I love what I do, and would be doing it even if it wasn't paying the bills, which helps |
| 00:55.10 | Antiarc | I couldn't work my schedule on something I didn't enjoy |
| 00:55.29 | Jerub | Antiarc: can i be one of the many to say, "you are insane" |
| 00:55.59 | Gnarfoz | I could deal with insane if the pay is right |
| 00:56.00 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 00:56.30 | Gnarfoz | also, am I confusing people again or didn't you have, like, a baby son oO |
| 00:58.53 | Gnarfoz | multi-tasking madness! |
| 00:59.05 | NeoTron | it's called "wife" |
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| 00:59.57 | theorbtwo | Whee. It's possible to get two real amulets in wizmode |
| 01:03.28 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you say that like it reduces his workload. :p |
| 01:05.23 | Antiarc | I do have a kiddo, yeah |
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| 01:30.39 | Lunessa | No more weapon skills. Yes, thank you very much. Never again will I need to go beat on crap for an hour or three to get good with a new and improved weapon. |
| 01:31.33 | kd3 | looks at his "Knuckle Sandwich"-enabled melee mage |
| 01:31.51 | Lunessa | KD3 me too. |
| 01:32.04 | Lunessa | But I also have a crapton of alts. |
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| 01:35.12 | DWSR | I just went and beat on a level 80 mob for an hour. |
| 01:35.16 | DWSR | It couldn't kill me. |
| 01:35.25 | DWSR | Such as my PvP gear and Fel Armor heal me for so much |
| 01:35.45 | kd3 | haet |
| 01:36.32 | Lunessa | lawlpvp? |
| 01:37.02 | Lunessa | (Note: I don't PVP, I don't enjoy it. Really, I don't. ) |
| 01:37.16 | DWSR | Lunessa: PvP gear's really nice for questing at 80. |
| 01:37.37 | Kraps | so this dk admits hes a squishy tank, why do i even bother? |
| 01:37.58 | DWSR | Kraps: At least he can admit he's bad? |
| 01:38.06 | Lunessa | Meh, But I'm not going to grind insane amounts of Honor when I can just get emblems and gear in PVE stuff. :) |
| 01:38.11 | Kraps | maybe i need to go disc |
| 01:39.01 | DWSR | Lunessa: You can only get Furious in PvE content. |
| 01:39.06 | DWSR | That's 2 seasons behind. |
| 01:39.19 | DWSR | Last season's stuff is all honor only, which should be really easy to get when 3.3.3 hits. |
| 01:39.36 | Kraps | Lunessa: i'm a prot warrior, i dont need pvp gear :D |
| 01:39.48 | Lunessa | DWSR: And since I don't like PvP, and I never plan to even step into an arena, I'll never get "the good stuff" anyway. |
| 01:40.00 | DWSR | Lunessa: I don't arena either |
| 01:40.07 | Lunessa | So for me, it's always going to be "lawlpvp" |
| 01:40.10 | DWSR | I still have most Relentless and a few pieces of Wrathful. |
| 01:40.19 | DWSR | I really really hate Arenas. I can't wait for rated BGs. |
| 01:40.56 | Kraps | DWSR: UR A CASULE RUINING TEH GAME! |
| 01:41.10 | Lunessa | I basically do battlegrounds when a world event requires it (FUCKING ORPHAN WEEK!!!) or when someone pisses me off enough that killing their pixels is the only answer. |
| 01:42.10 | Lunessa | Like the Tauren hunter that followed me around Icecrown killing my NPCs for a quest (they're PVP enabled) - So I smashed them flat and finished my quest. |
| 01:43.53 | Lunessa | I know, I know. STFU Lunessa. |
| 01:44.36 | DWSR | heh, I don't mind. |
| 01:44.38 | DWSR | What class are you? |
| 01:44.41 | DWSR | I could rape Kraps easily. |
| 01:45.22 | Kraps | no you cant |
| 01:46.16 | Kraps | DWSR: im a warrior so you probably could :( |
| 01:46.54 | DWSR | Kraps: As an affliction lock, prot warriors are my favourite. |
| 01:47.11 | DWSR | They do no damage, and all their silences and stuns have no effect when it's all instacast. |
| 01:47.24 | eidolarr | that is patently false |
| 01:47.31 | eidolarr | prot warriors suck for any caster |
| 01:47.44 | DWSR | eidolarr: I don't have any problems with them. |
| 01:47.58 | eidolarr | there is no way you are gonna kill a geared prot warrior with CoA and corr before he eats you |
| 01:48.06 | DWSR | eidolarr: Who said anything about just CoA and Corr? |
| 01:48.12 | DWSR | I can definitely kite a prot warrior. |
| 01:48.27 | DWSR | With lol CoEx spam! |
| 01:48.33 | DWSR | Oh, and UA's really fun too. |
| 01:48.35 | eidolarr | they have charge and hamstring |
| 01:48.42 | eidolarr | if they're decent i cant' cast shit |
| 01:48.45 | eidolarr | if they're geared they ill me |
| 01:48.46 | Lunessa | DWSR: My main is an Enhancement Shaman, but I play 1 of everything except a hunter. |
| 01:48.58 | DWSR | ugh |
| 01:49.03 | DWSR | Enhancement's a spec I really do hate. |
| 01:49.20 | Lunessa | I like to think I'm pretty good at it. |
| 01:49.33 | eidolarr | DWSR: were you talking about duels or arenas? |
| 01:49.44 | DWSR | <Lunessa>I like to think my spirit wolves are pretty good at it. <- fix't. |
| 01:49.48 | DWSR | eidolarr: Not arenas. |
| 01:49.57 | DWSR | Just duels/world/BGs. |
| 01:49.59 | eidolarr | oh maybe in duels since the nerfs |
| 01:50.04 | eidolarr | idk the worst part is that you can't fear anything |
| 01:50.09 | Lunessa | DWSR: My Spirit Wolves > Your Demons |
| 01:50.18 | DWSR | Lunessa: Yeah, I know. |
| 01:50.35 | eidolarr | geared prot warriors used to hurt like hell though |
| 01:50.43 | DWSR | Yes, that's why they got nerfed. |
| 01:51.04 | Lunessa | And Wind Shear, then Stormstrike, and I say "How do you like me now?" |
| 01:51.35 | DWSR | Lunessa: I usually fear bomb, long fear, Shadowflame, DoT up. |
| 01:51.45 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 01:51.55 | DWSR | Since Fear Bomb's IC as Affliction |
| 01:51.59 | DWSR | WEE splat. |
| 01:52.09 | eidolarr | the worst is bm/enhancement because there are so many pets and totems and snakes and shit you can't see anything |
| 01:52.09 | DWSR | What run speed are Spirit Wolves? 130%? |
| 01:52.17 | DWSR | eidolarr: In arenas? Yes |
| 01:52.24 | WobWork | They run at "InYourFace%" |
| 01:52.27 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:53.26 | WobWork | Then there's the hunter trick of putting out a noncombat snake pet |
| 01:53.31 | WobWork | to utterly confuse people |
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| 01:53.44 | eidolarr | dks are pretty bad too, when an unholy dk is on you it's like armageddon |
| 01:53.44 | kd3 | grr |
| 01:53.46 | eidolarr | you cant see anything |
| 01:53.54 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 01:54.01 | DWSR | I used to laugh so hard at DKs |
| 01:54.12 | WobWork | garg, ghoul, ridiculous amounts of aoe bling... |
| 01:54.12 | DWSR | Because Shadowfury would stun everything. |
| 01:54.21 | tony_ | can anyone help me out with a question |
| 01:54.22 | DWSR | lol, unholy isn't *that* bad, anymore. |
| 01:54.24 | eidolarr | yeah the grey shit on the ground is what does it i think |
| 01:54.28 | DWSR | ~asktoask Tony_ |
| 01:55.16 | tony_ | i just switched from win xp to ubuntu 9.10, having problems installing wow |
| 01:55.18 | DWSR | eidolarr: Desecration |
| 01:55.27 | DWSR | eidolarr: So much fun. |
| 01:55.35 | kd3 | tony_, 32 or 64-bit? |
| 01:55.41 | eidolarr | they aren't even that powerful anymore |
| 01:55.44 | DWSR | tony_: Wow's only supported officially on Windows, just FYI. |
| 01:55.46 | eidolarr | but damn they have a lot of special effects |
| 01:55.53 | eidolarr | [and mac] |
| 01:55.54 | kd3 | but there's a lot of linux players in here |
| 01:56.01 | tony_ | 32 |
| 01:56.15 | kd3 | make sure wine's installed and that you have the restricted graphics driver (amd or nvidia) |
| 01:56.29 | kd3 | then see http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine |
| 01:56.46 | eidolarr | what is the problem you're encountering? |
| 01:57.05 | tony_ | no path? usin wine 1.2 |
| 01:57.16 | kd3 | 1.0.2? |
| 01:57.17 | tony_ | not recognized installer |
| 01:57.57 | tony_ | i really dont know much about it tho..will have to read up on it |
| 01:58.27 | kd3 | are you trying to install from cd? is your windows partition available? |
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| 01:58.54 | kd3 | but do take a look at the link I listed, we've got some pointers on getting things working. it's pretty much plug-and-play these days |
| 01:59.01 | tony_ | nope, xp is gone..booted up this morning, and it was stuck on the loading screen\ |
| 01:59.19 | tony_ | awesome will do, thanks |
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| 02:48.29 | Kraps | whats mana tide totem good for? |
| 02:50.23 | cbreak | mana regen |
| 02:50.30 | Lunessa | Fast mana regen. :) |
| 02:50.59 | Kraps | like during a boss fight? |
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| 02:53.02 | NiLon | for example yes |
| 02:53.38 | cbreak | http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/03/02/0047249/Aurora-Attack-mdash-Resistance-Is-Futile-Pretty-Much |
| 03:00.48 | Lunessa | Kraps: It's really useful during a boss fight, it lets your mages, warlocks, priests, etc all do MOAR! |
| 03:01.19 | cbreak | I don't really care about mana much, even though I am arcane |
| 03:01.27 | cbreak | blizzard really made mana management much easier |
| 03:01.54 | Kraps | cbreak: cataclysm... |
| 03:02.11 | cbreak | didn't say it can't be made even duller |
| 03:02.23 | Kraps | lol |
| 03:03.47 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/?object=192706#comments |
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| 03:11.06 | cogwheel | i wish blink respected your pitch while swimming |
| 03:13.04 | cbreak | blink can do funny things while falling |
| 03:14.31 | kd3 | blink does funny things period |
| 03:15.02 | Lunessa | Blink is a funny spell. |
| 03:17.02 | cogwheel | Lunessa: get home and drive the badge train plox |
| 03:17.13 | Lunessa | 2 hours yet. :P |
| 03:17.13 | cogwheel | *ducks* |
| 03:17.26 | Lunessa | lazy gnome. |
| 03:17.28 | Lunessa | :P |
| 03:17.30 | kd3 | wonders how many times they've had to rewrite the spell to deal with bitchy mages |
| 03:17.32 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:17.41 | kd3 | sighs again at the tunnels in wsg |
| 03:23.01 | Lunessa | requires entertainment. |
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| 03:29.02 | WobWork | Lunessa: Sushi Cat |
| 03:29.14 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 03:29.51 | Jerub | kd3: what's wrong with the tunnels in WSG? |
| 03:30.26 | Jerub | wonders how hard it would be to multibox |
| 03:32.32 | Lunessa | I find this... disturbing. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/3/1/ |
| 03:33.27 | kd3 | jerub; the ends of the tunnels can't be blinked through |
| 03:33.59 | alestane | Lunessa: Do you know who this guy is that they're talking about? |
| 03:34.26 | Lunessa | I looked up the linked web sites. From the online material, I concur with Gabe. |
| 03:35.19 | cogwheel | anyone with a mage ever get "item is not ready yet" when you're trying to drink your own conjured water? |
| 03:36.05 | cbreak | it triggers GCD |
| 03:36.06 | cogwheel | i'm out of combat with <100% mana |
| 03:36.12 | cogwheel | and it won't let me drink |
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| 03:36.33 | theorbtwo | cogwheel: Repeatedly, or "just wait a second"? |
| 03:36.51 | cogwheel | repeatedly. after like a minute it'll let me |
| 03:36.58 | theorbtwo | Huh. |
| 03:39.18 | cogwheel | it's happened twice now, once at work once at home |
| 03:40.07 | theorbtwo | Strange. I've never seen that with my mage, but it's been months. |
| 03:45.44 | tem | I hate these valkyrs |
| 03:45.47 | tem | I hate them so much |
| 03:45.57 | tem | they need to never respawn |
| 03:45.59 | tem | ever. |
| 03:46.14 | cbreak | I love them |
| 03:46.18 | cbreak | <- owner of nibelung |
| 03:48.15 | Jerub | cbreak: we had that drop this week. was awesome |
| 03:48.26 | cbreak | we had it drop the first three kills |
| 03:48.31 | Jerub | cbreak: sweeet |
| 03:48.34 | cbreak | it even went to a trialist |
| 03:48.40 | cbreak | no mains besides wanted it |
| 03:48.58 | Jerub | i'm seirously conswidering taking my main to a raiding guild. |
| 03:49.07 | cbreak | (that was the first time we killed her) |
| 03:49.09 | Jerub | i've had a raiding guild on trial for a month and they've been nice. |
| 03:49.11 | cbreak | before the buff |
| 03:49.30 | cbreak | my guild is a crazy one |
| 03:49.35 | cbreak | casual raiding :) |
| 03:49.42 | Jerub | but im a little concerned that on sunday night the raid leader couldn't get online because his net was capped, so the raid didn't go |
| 03:50.00 | Jerub | i mean, if you can't raid because one person isn't available, that's a bit fail |
| 03:50.02 | cbreak | I'd hope my minions would start without me |
| 03:50.42 | Jerub | cbreak: you're the raidleader? |
| 03:50.48 | cbreak | yes, and GM |
| 03:52.58 | cbreak | I try to make other people lead sometimes when I pass on the first four bosses |
| 03:53.07 | cbreak | but I think they don't like it |
| 03:58.25 | Shirik | Input required: Suggestions for eating locations available at 11 PM |
| 03:58.32 | Shirik | execute query |
| 03:58.37 | cbreak | in front of computer. |
| 03:58.53 | Shirik | le sigh |
| 03:59.01 | WobWork | 7/11 |
| 03:59.06 | kd3 | taco bell |
| 03:59.08 | kd3 | gags |
| 03:59.16 | Shirik | not going to taco bell |
| 03:59.19 | kd3 | WaHo |
| 03:59.23 | Shirik | wtf is WaHo |
| 03:59.24 | Arrowmaster | white castle |
| 03:59.28 | kd3 | waffle house |
| 03:59.32 | Shirik | wtf is white castle |
| 03:59.36 | Shirik | I don't know of a nearby waffle house |
| 03:59.39 | WobWork | american burger chain? |
| 03:59.49 | Arrowmaster | you dont know what sliders are? |
| 03:59.53 | Shirik | wtf is a slider |
| 03:59.56 | cbreak | bad TV series |
| 04:00.00 | WobWork | burger |
| 04:00.10 | Arrowmaster | cheap small burger |
| 04:00.10 | WobWork | what kind of terrible American are you, Shirik? |
| 04:00.16 | cbreak | ancient pocket calculator |
| 04:00.16 | WobWork | Even I know this stuff =P |
| 04:00.22 | Lunessa | Shirik: White Caste? Awesome |
| 04:00.26 | Shirik | There are days I wish I were Japanese |
| 04:00.28 | Arrowmaster | but you can buy them in very large quantities |
| 04:00.46 | WobWork | well, there's always In 'n Out |
| 04:00.47 | Shirik | I could live off sushi |
| 04:01.09 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 04:01.21 | Arrowmaster | a friend went to white castle and brought back a box of 30 sliders for one of our evening game nights |
| 04:01.21 | Lunessa | Damn you all, now I want sushi |
| 04:01.23 | cogwheel | ~shirik-- for saying it first |
| 04:01.26 | WobWork | I like the other Japanese food too much to limit myself |
| 04:01.29 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:01.43 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: a box of sliders? How fast did they go? |
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| 04:02.00 | Arrowmaster | rather fast actually |
| 04:02.14 | Arrowmaster | i think they took longer to make that many than to eat that many |
| 04:02.24 | Lunessa | I haven't been to a White Castle in forever. None are anyway around here. |
| 04:02.31 | Lunessa | arrond here anyway. |
| 04:02.34 | Lunessa | OR something/ |
| 04:05.15 | cogwheel | anywhere around here? |
| 04:05.53 | Shirik | I am here |
| 04:05.55 | Shirik | wait what? |
| 04:06.36 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Yeah. Work is draining my brainpower and will to live. |
| 04:07.15 | cogwheel | dpsing randoms is doing the same here -_- |
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| 04:14.53 | dashx | Hey guys, I have a question |
| 04:15.01 | Landrell | We might have an answer. |
| 04:15.11 | dashx | Okay, I've got a really stupid addon right now, just playing around. |
| 04:15.22 | dashx | I have it wait for a guild message event, and if its a certain word, it responds. |
| 04:15.32 | Shirik | ok I think I will go to Wendy's |
| 04:15.37 | dashx | however, when the event occurs, my addon responds twice. |
| 04:15.41 | dashx | Its as if the event triggers twice? |
| 04:15.57 | Shirik | dashx: Chances are you registered the script twice |
| 04:15.58 | Arrowmaster | are you using ChatFrame_AddMessageFilter? |
| 04:16.07 | dashx | No, arrowmaster. |
| 04:16.12 | dashx | just checking the arg1 |
| 04:16.19 | dashx | Registered the script twice? |
| 04:16.21 | Shirik | senses use of globals |
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| 04:16.30 | Arrowmaster | are you using XML and have a <script> in the XML file loading the .lua file, but also have the .lua file in the .toc |
| 04:16.32 | Shirik | ok post your code |
| 04:16.39 | dashx | Yes arrowmaster. |
| 04:16.41 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:16.43 | Shirik | don't do that |
| 04:16.58 | dashx | Do I HAVE to use xml at all? |
| 04:17.00 | Shirik | no |
| 04:17.10 | dashx | Cause right now I dont gain anything by using XML with this crappy script. |
| 04:17.16 | Shirik | then don't use it :) |
| 04:17.17 | Lunessa | senses a great disturbance in the Force, as if Shirik's stomach cried out in a horrific voce, "Feed me, Seymour!" |
| 04:17.20 | Shirik | I find XML to be evil |
| 04:17.24 | dashx | Awesome, me too. |
| 04:17.30 | dashx | let me give this a try |
| 04:17.40 | Shirik | prods Lunessa |
| 04:17.50 | dashx | just taking the .xml file out of the .toc should do it, yes? |
| 04:17.59 | Shirik | yes, but you will also need to completely restart wow |
| 04:18.02 | dashx | Kk |
| 04:18.12 | Lunessa | points Shirik at Wendy's and tells him to get a Frosty. |
| 04:19.01 | dashx | second, unrelated question |
| 04:19.11 | dashx | is there a command to identify distance to a target? |
| 04:19.22 | cbreak | no |
| 04:19.23 | Arrowmaster | yes and no |
| 04:19.33 | cbreak | you can test inrangeness |
| 04:19.52 | dashx | yeah, I knew that part, but that sucks. |
| 04:19.58 | dashx | Not accurate enough. |
| 04:20.14 | dashx | Thanks for your help folks :) |
| 04:20.23 | Arrowmaster | you can get accurate ranges but it only works on certain targets, like party/raid members |
| 04:20.47 | dashx | Based on the map? |
| 04:20.52 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:20.57 | Arrowmaster | and doing some math |
| 04:20.58 | dashx | That makes sense |
| 04:24.00 | Lunessa | I'm so crass and materialistic. Re-reading an old post of mine, and this is a quote - " I also accept gratitude in the form of cookies, liquor or cash. " |
| 04:31.46 | cogwheel | oldnews |
| 04:32.14 | Lunessa | heh. Leaving work. Ciao |
| 04:33.29 | cogwheel | \o/ |
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| 04:38.59 | Thunder_Child | there should not be raisins in trail mix |
| 04:39.12 | DWSR | amen |
| 04:42.39 | eidolarr | hey why would you ever use things ilke C-f and C-n in emacs to move over a character or down a line instead of the arrow keys? |
| 04:42.52 | cbreak | faster to type |
| 04:43.02 | cbreak | you don't have to move your fingers out of typing position |
| 04:43.04 | eidolarr | is it once you know it? |
| 04:43.10 | cbreak | although vim bindings are faster |
| 04:43.18 | cbreak | oh, of course you have to know it |
| 04:43.23 | eidolarr | if i trust you on this and take the time to learn it |
| 04:43.25 | cbreak | and I guess arrow keys are faster to remember |
| 04:43.36 | eidolarr | i will be upset if it turns out wasteful! |
| 04:43.51 | cbreak | I read somewhere that old keyboards had the ctrl key where modern ones have caps-lock, so typing might be harder these days |
| 04:43.59 | cbreak | I recommend vim bindings |
| 04:44.02 | eidolarr | you like vi better? |
| 04:44.11 | cbreak | it IS better :) |
| 04:44.28 | eidolarr | well |
| 04:44.38 | eidolarr | i think i am too far in my career to switch cryptic editors |
| 04:44.48 | cbreak | I don't actually USE them |
| 04:45.13 | eidolarr | what then |
| 04:45.22 | cbreak | TextWrangler |
| 04:45.32 | cbreak | or specialized editors |
| 04:46.04 | eidolarr | idk |
| 04:46.09 | eidolarr | i think emacs macros have a lot going fo them |
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| 04:59.17 | Shirik | ok I'm really getting sick of this "brooklyn's finest" movie preview |
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| 05:02.33 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.36 | WobWork | there fixed it for you |
| 05:03.12 | DWSR | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133648 <-- This *should* theoretically, hide the frame when I have no party members or when I have raid members, else it will show it, right? |
| 05:03.18 | DWSR | Because that's not happening atm. |
| 05:04.39 | WobWork | GetNumRaidMembers returns nil if you're not in a raid? |
| 05:05.01 | WobWork | wait |
| 05:05.11 | WobWork | if you have no party members or if you -have- raid members? |
| 05:05.57 | frontendloader | tekkub nooooooooo |
| 05:07.29 | kd3 | whee |
| 05:07.33 | kd3 | thunder |
| 05:11.21 | Thunder_Child | wee |
| 05:11.24 | Thunder_Child | stop pinging me |
| 05:11.30 | Thunder_Child | whee* |
| 05:16.10 | DWSR | WobWork: Yes. |
| 05:16.18 | DWSR | I'm trying to show a background frame for my party frames. |
| 05:16.23 | DWSR | And I have my party frames hidden in a raid. |
| 05:16.46 | DWSR | Now, if I want to hide it in any raid that's bigger than 5 people. |
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| 05:17.23 | Arrowmaster | so gamestop might actually be trying to do something about how they seem to always fuck up preorder bonuses, this time the code was printed on my receipt |
| 05:18.05 | DWSR | I should do something like if (pmems < 1 and (rmems > 6 or rmems < 1)) then? |
| 05:18.30 | DWSR | That should hide the frame if there's no party members and more than 6 or no raid members. |
| 05:18.42 | Arrowmaster | too complex |
| 05:18.57 | lebqzz | hmm wondering whats going on |
| 05:19.08 | lebqzz | i get dif values for something that should be pretty simple |
| 05:19.23 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 05:19.28 | lebqzz | screen res, 1980*1080 |
| 05:19.33 | lebqzz | wow size 1280*800 |
| 05:19.43 | lebqzz | GetScreenWidth() in wow returns 1365 |
| 05:20.02 | Arrowmaster | lebqzz: ui scale messes with it |
| 05:20.09 | lebqzz | scale = 1 |
| 05:20.22 | lebqzz | or scale is disabled ;P |
| 05:20.30 | Arrowmaster | disabled does not equal 1 |
| 05:21.07 | lebqzz | well for me that would be logical ;P |
| 05:21.11 | DWSR | I want to hide the party frames under the following conditions: I have more than 6 raid members or I have 0 party members and 0 raid members. |
| 05:21.18 | DWSR | lebqzz: UI scale at maximum = 0.96 |
| 05:21.20 | DWSR | iirc |
| 05:21.35 | DWSR | It's not 1. |
| 05:21.38 | lebqzz | hmm |
| 05:21.50 | DWSR | if rmems > 6 or (pmems < 1 and rmems < 1) then? |
| 05:21.56 | Arrowmaster | wow is nothing but logical when it comes to its imaginary pixel's, its impossible to get them to match up exactly with screen pixels |
| 05:22.08 | lebqzz | is the scale a factor? |
| 05:22.09 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Anything but logical, I think. |
| 05:22.14 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: you want it to only show when you have more than 1 party member and you are not in a raid? |
| 05:22.34 | lebqzz | well i would have made it some stuff just are pizel counted ;P |
| 05:22.41 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: When I'm in a raid with less than 6 party members. |
| 05:23.05 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: imho dont do that, what if they are in a different party? |
| 05:23.15 | DWSR | I have my raid frames. |
| 05:23.27 | Arrowmaster | exactly, why are you wanting it to show in a raid at all |
| 05:23.37 | DWSR | Because of arena. |
| 05:23.48 | DWSR | Since groups in an arena are all raids. |
| 05:23.55 | Arrowmaster | they are? |
| 05:24.00 | DWSR | iirc, yes. |
| 05:24.07 | Arrowmaster | add an arena check or something then maybe |
| 05:24.13 | DWSR | !api arena |
| 05:24.15 | lua_bot | Found 39 possible matches for 'arena'. Please be more specific |
| 05:24.20 | DWSR | !api IsArena |
| 05:24.23 | lua_bot | IsArenaTeamCaptain: Returns whether the player is the captain of an arena team (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsArenaTeamCaptain) |
| 05:24.26 | DWSR | fail |
| 05:24.44 | Arrowmaster | !api inarena |
| 05:24.48 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'inarena': TurnInArenaPetition, IsInArenaTeam |
| 05:25.07 | lebqzz | 1219 is almost widescreen aswell.. |
| 05:25.19 | lebqzz | this is not logical lol |
| 05:26.22 | DWSR | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsActiveBattlefieldArena |
| 05:26.29 | DWSR | Arrowmaster ^ |
| 05:27.30 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: btw, elseif is elseif, not else if, right? |
| 05:28.07 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 05:28.52 | DWSR | if IsActiveBattlefieldArena() then self:Show() elseif (GetNumPartyMembers() < 1 and GetNumRaidMembers < 1) then self:Hide() else self:Show() end |
| 05:28.54 | DWSR | Something like htat? |
| 05:29.38 | lebqzz | is there a way to set ui scale to 1? |
| 05:29.47 | DWSR | cvar? |
| 05:30.03 | lebqzz | SET uiScale "1" |
| 05:30.07 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 05:30.07 | lebqzz | in the config |
| 05:30.19 | DWSR | You can do it in game as well. |
| 05:30.30 | lebqzz | but the config is set to 1 already |
| 05:30.36 | DWSR | Then your UI scale is 1. |
| 05:30.45 | DWSR | What are you trying to do, exactly? |
| 05:30.52 | lebqzz | but 1920 or 1280 should be the output not 1517 |
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| 05:31.05 | DWSR | Why does it matter, to be frank? |
| 05:31.13 | lebqzz | trying to set the worldframe with a bottom and top bar lol |
| 05:31.23 | lebqzz | cause i want it to the end to end. |
| 05:31.27 | DWSR | Err.. |
| 05:31.29 | lebqzz | but not top to top |
| 05:31.34 | DWSR | UIParent:GetWidth() |
| 05:31.47 | DWSR | Set it to that. |
| 05:32.08 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/420071828 |
| 05:32.14 | lebqzz | lets see |
| 05:32.19 | DWSR | lol Adys |
| 05:32.24 | lebqzz | messes up the viewport totally.. all yellow |
| 05:32.40 | DWSR | lebqzz: Yeah. |
| 05:32.41 | lebqzz | cause at 1219ish then its touching the borders almost |
| 05:32.52 | lebqzz | so 1517 is way out |
| 05:32.55 | DWSR | Because GetWidth() is used to...you know....get the width of the bar that you're trying to use. |
| 05:33.09 | DWSR | get the width so you can set the width of the bar* |
| 05:33.15 | DWSR | Not to set colours. |
| 05:33.25 | lebqzz | lol the worldframe RENDERS yellow |
| 05:33.29 | DWSR | lolwtf? |
| 05:33.35 | lebqzz | want a screenshot |
| 05:33.39 | DWSR | Now you've lost me. What the hell are you doing? |
| 05:34.01 | lebqzz | resice the WorldFrame... so i get a black area in the top and bottom |
| 05:34.07 | DWSR | lebqzz: Use BTex. |
| 05:34.08 | DWSR | Or Skinner. |
| 05:34.12 | DWSR | Or CT_Viewport |
| 05:34.16 | DWSR | Or SunnArt |
| 05:34.26 | DWSR | These mods all do it automatically. No putzing around. |
| 05:34.34 | lebqzz | so you're saying get those mods? |
| 05:34.40 | lebqzz | and use them. |
| 05:34.40 | DWSR | anyone one of the above. |
| 05:34.47 | lebqzz | lol not helping my programming |
| 05:35.06 | DWSR | lebqzz: If you're doing it for an intellectual excercise, perhaps looking at one of those will help you understand what to do? |
| 05:35.07 | lebqzz | other mods is what I'm trying to get RID of |
| 05:36.52 | DWSR | lebqzz: CT_Viewport is lightweight. |
| 05:37.02 | DWSR | Viewporting is all that it does. |
| 05:38.26 | lebqzz | i know |
| 05:38.34 | lebqzz | but 99% of that is wierd hmm |
| 05:39.18 | lebqzz | !api SetVertexColor |
| 05:39.21 | lua_bot | LayeredRegion:SetVertexColor: Sets a color shading for the region's graphics (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/LayeredRegion/SetVertexColor) |
| 05:39.25 | DWSR | !api WorldFrame |
| 05:39.26 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'WorldFrame'. |
| 05:41.41 | lebqzz | WorldFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", (parentWidth/CT_Viewport.screenRes[1])*left, -(parentHeight/CT_Viewport.screenRes[2])*top); |
| 05:41.45 | lebqzz | thats what ct does |
| 05:44.08 | lebqzz | see doeing something else worked better ;P setting points ;P |
| 05:46.59 | lebqzz | or not ;P |
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| 05:54.58 | kd3 | oh noes |
| 05:55.08 | kd3 | we lost 1.26 microseconds 'cause of the chilean earthquake |
| 05:55.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw that |
| 05:56.09 | Arrowmaster | i wonder what exactly they mean by 8 cm |
| 05:57.13 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how much of an effect on the climate 8 cm would have |
| 05:57.56 | Shirik | kd3:What? |
| 05:58.10 | kd3 | http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-01/chilean-quake-likely-shifted-earth-s-axis-nasa-scientist-says.html |
| 05:58.15 | Arrowmaster | check slashdot |
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| 06:00.33 | WobWork | I foresee a whole lot of penis jokes with the 8cm thing |
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| 06:03.19 | Arrowmaster | ~fail EA |
| 06:03.20 | purl | EA: FAIL! |
| 06:04.04 | Arrowmaster | fucking idiots made all the unlock codes case sensitive and the input dialog come up defaulting to lower case |
| 06:04.34 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: well, Blizzard ignores case on passwords =P |
| 06:12.27 | Bruners | morning haste |
| 06:13.16 | Kraps | "And when that day hits, and most of us are running around, screaming, diving for shelter, and trying to figure out how to play the game all over again, there will still be some yahoo in trade chat whining about the .2% nerf to some talent that they never use anyway." |
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| 06:23.22 | kd3 | in other news... so apparently ps3s fixed themselves |
| 06:25.14 | DWSR | lol |
| 06:30.03 | tem | I still don't understand how you can get leap years wrong |
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| 06:42.13 | Adys | SHADOWED |
| 06:42.20 | Shadowed | adys |
| 06:44.47 | haste | Bruners: haroo |
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| 06:51.44 | Gryzvwald | anyone know a good auto accept greed roll or disenchant confirmation addon? |
| 06:52.47 | Shadowed | tekkub did I think it's tekKrush that auto confirms the DE confirmation |
| 06:52.55 | WobWork | ~wowalert |
| 06:52.56 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 06:52.58 | Shadowed | it won't auto DE, but it'll auto accept the confirmation |
| 06:53.22 | Gryzvwald | that's fine. i just get tired of the 2nd confirmation button. |
| 06:53.29 | Gryzvwald | thanks |
| 06:56.47 | Adys | !api latency |
| 06:56.47 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'latency'. |
| 06:56.51 | Adys | !api lag |
| 06:56.51 | lua_bot | Found 12 possible results for 'lag': IsTutorialFlagged, GuildControlSetRankFlag, QuestFlagsPVP, FlagTutorial, GuildControlGetRankFlags, CHANNEL_FLAGS_UPDATED, UNIT_DYNAMIC_FLAGS, PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED, UNIT_FLAGS, GMReportLag, GetBattlefieldFlagPosition, GetNumBattlefieldFlagPositions |
| 06:56.56 | Shadowed | !api netstats |
| 06:56.56 | lua_bot | GetNetStats: Returns information about current network connection performance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNetStats) |
| 06:57.09 | Adys | \o/ |
| 06:57.47 | Arrowmaster | i hit a heli with a tank cannon round in bfbc2 |
| 07:09.14 | Arrowmaster | fuck i still have yet to win a round |
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| 07:11.13 | Kraps | http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2010-03/inside-excruciatingly-slow-death-internet-explorer-6 |
| 07:14.52 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5483348/report-strange-things-are-afoot-at-infinity-ward-president-ousted |
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| 07:28.25 | Shirik | tackles Kraps |
| 07:28.38 | Kraps | untackles |
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| 07:32.55 | Adys | Arrowmaster: how do I alias a command that has multiple words? |
| 07:33.03 | Adys | eg git diff=git diff --color |
| 07:33.15 | Arrowmaster | in what? |
| 07:33.24 | Adys | bashrc |
| 07:33.28 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
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| 07:33.38 | Adys | grm |
| 07:33.44 | Adys | does git have some kind of config for that? |
| 07:33.45 | Arrowmaster | you got me killed in bfbc2 |
| 07:33.49 | Arrowmaster | yes git does |
| 07:33.55 | Arrowmaster | look at the git config man page |
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| 07:33.58 | Adys | good, I probably was the one who killed you |
| 07:34.00 | Adys | k thanks |
| 07:34.33 | Arrowmaster | did you run up and sit behind me while i was replying to you then knife me when i started looking around because i heard you |
| 07:34.37 | Adys | yes |
| 07:34.57 | Shadowed | hahahah |
| 07:35.02 | Shadowed | good job Adys |
| 07:35.08 | Adys | thanks, I try hard |
| 07:35.18 | Adys | also whats bfbc2 |
| 07:36.05 | Arrowmaster | battlefield bad company 2 |
| 07:37.18 | Arrowmaster | i fucking swear im the only person using the spot ability |
| 07:37.37 | Arrowmaster | to mark enemys with a big fucking orange arrow above their heads |
| 07:39.05 | nevcairiel | hunters mark! |
| 07:39.55 | Arrowmaster | it fucking is |
| 07:40.15 | Arrowmaster | and all you have to do is press the back button while looking at an enemy |
| 07:41.05 | Shirik | Interesting concept: |
| 07:41.32 | Shirik | All of the following are probably bad passwords: password, 123456, asdfghjkl;, birth date, name of a child |
| 07:41.50 | Shirik | Secure password: password-123456-1984-05-01-Sarah-asdfghjkl; |
| 07:41.50 | Shadowed | But if you merge them all they aren't?! |
| 07:42.10 | Shadowed | It's pretty much the same idea as passphrase, no? |
| 07:42.27 | Shirik | I honestly don't feel there should be any distinction between a password and a passphrase |
| 07:42.32 | Esamynn | yes Shadowed, yes, of course :P |
| 07:42.35 | Shirik | anyone who uses an actual word for a password has a problem |
| 07:42.51 | Shadowed | Esamynn: Just not sure how it's actually a special concept :P |
| 07:42.52 | Adys | git config color.diff true |
| 07:42.53 | Adys | yay |
| 07:43.03 | Kraps | Shirik: no problem for me |
| 07:43.25 | krka | these are all bad passwords: jijEteg9 dytOnyocOd1 RharpInRev3 obved9Vaf |
| 07:43.39 | Shadowed | !#41wroqiwuerQ@#)$(!@#$ |
| 07:43.41 | Shadowed | is now a bad password |
| 07:43.46 | krka | yes it is |
| 07:44.08 | krka | a public password is a bad password |
| 07:44.20 | Adys | yourmom is now a bad password |
| 07:44.23 | krka | "password" was ok before Shirik spoiled it by writing it in here :/ |
| 07:44.40 | Shadowed | I'd hate to be Sarah, and have a birthday on 05/0/1984 |
| 07:44.46 | Shirik | MIIBOgIBAAJBAM9x/OOGzTrgHhyBHVstvk3eiNzJthUabW6d4cl029nCZqKdtYrPjDOSh5zm49jrgetalvJXt/fYV6IVKeobHAsCAwEAAQJAeyJJHvEkHv9rQDYvq7CSVnxyNsQQraQbMt7KaB9SZIWaasHGukuJKD4UhCxH42t5W1QYS9eSTCsUTsHUkQ76IQIhAPu8lrbpnwcU1sICY/bYNUMwc4FPp0mgy3x8fcpNvLJbAiEA0vVfW8l+yFZ/aGDP7xqhnZ0MlZzmISYc4+09KxBVDBECIBWdNKeR2YinHmVcBS89kx0ovNIef7OPrckLe1VyZUA/AiArF3oqGqeuLpUJ8jSnR85ZjroCWbFcdheSq2RCRqzIsQIhAIUddoZlymKwuZXDBMVBMM2e4PcF/DzNEfJ3Q |
| 07:44.49 | Shirik | Is now a bad password |
| 07:44.55 | Shirik | well |
| 07:44.56 | nevcairiel | it was a bad password before |
| 07:44.59 | Shirik | it's more of an RSA key |
| 07:45.03 | Shirik | but it's now bad |
| 07:45.05 | Shadowed | RSA keys are now bad passwords |
| 07:45.08 | Esamynn | ~lart Shirik |
| 07:45.08 | purl | executes killall -HUP Shirik |
| 07:45.32 | Adys | IIEoQIBAAKCAQEAlTF4xePMJnlWcmjJsF9skg6df55680JiNtv4vVnDpojFwi9AQUaIwQftl5/0E8SEePw8wcB944qEtuW5mDab9J7Ux1Cwx481+Ln5EQECibK4mojvAA4j6rEpmfGDOH0lpqA6hTO5N+MDahedH9F53vEoi7l2SZpYXHydD5... |
| 07:45.44 | Adys | will be an useless private key once you figure out the rest which i cba to type |
| 07:46.09 | Fisker | lol |
| 07:46.13 | Fisker | "Druids make me thorny" |
| 07:46.29 | Shirik | why is man genrsa not working? |
| 07:46.37 | Shirik | I can't figure out how to make a 32 bit RSA key |
| 07:46.51 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 07:46.52 | Esamynn | Fisker: you don't need any help there |
| 07:46.56 | nevcairiel | i would hope it doesnt even allow you to create a key like that |
| 07:47.00 | Adys | you cant afaik |
| 07:47.06 | Adys | min is something like 512 bit |
| 07:47.11 | Adys | or 760 |
| 07:47.22 | Shadowed | I ran out of bits to represent mine |
| 07:47.32 | Shirik | Generating RSA private key, 16 bit long modulus |
| 07:47.32 | Shirik | .+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 07:47.33 | Shirik | .+++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++28506:error:04081078:rsa routines:RSA_BUILTIN_KEYGEN:key size too small:rsa_gen.c:146: |
| 07:47.36 | Shadowed | it requires 5 computers to put together |
| 07:47.41 | Shirik | I like how it generates entropy BEFORE complaining |
| 07:47.55 | Adys | bits are so 2nd millenium |
| 07:47.56 | nevcairiel | the generator i have has a min length of 256 bits |
| 07:47.58 | Adys | qbits are where its at |
| 07:48.05 | Shirik | it let me make a 32 bit |
| 07:48.06 | Shirik | key |
| 07:48.14 | Shirik | MCwCAQACBQDXgU4dAgMBAAECBBJu/ukCAwD3QwIDAN8fAgMA0H8CAmp1AgJkyQ== |
| 07:48.22 | Adys | hacks Shirik |
| 07:48.33 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 07:48.35 | Shirik | it's not like I'm putting this in authorized_keys... |
| 07:48.41 | Adys | TOO LATE |
| 07:48.45 | Adys | AM I MOVING THE MOUSE YET |
| 07:48.57 | Shirik | it appears that the smallest openssl will let you go is to 31 bits |
| 07:49.04 | Shirik | how it can do something that is not a power of 2 is beyond me |
| 07:49.16 | Adys | power of two minus one |
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| 07:49.23 | Adys | as i said it does 760bit keys too |
| 07:49.35 | sylvanaar | you all see that petition to name the SI prefix for 10^27 to hella |
| 07:49.46 | Shirik | ... |
| 07:50.04 | sylvanaar | i suggested they rename yota as well |
| 07:50.10 | sylvanaar | to lota |
| 07:50.48 | sylvanaar | now my key is 25 hellabytes |
| 07:51.20 | sylvanaar | or bits, i think at that size it doesnt matter |
| 07:51.52 | Adys | at that size i think it matters a lot |
| 07:52.18 | Adys | particularly concerning what you can store and what you cannot store :p |
| 07:52.33 | Shirik | I just asked my server for a 32767-bit RSA key |
| 07:52.38 | Shirik | it is currently freaking out |
| 07:52.39 | Shirik | !ping |
| 07:52.39 | batbot | Shirik: pong! |
| 07:52.39 | EDI | pong |
| 07:52.45 | Shirik | though EDI is still responding |
| 07:52.50 | Shirik | I bet it doesn't have enough entropy to comply |
| 07:53.01 | nevcairiel | it'll just generate some |
| 07:53.07 | Shirik | yeah but it's taking forever |
| 07:53.22 | zenzio | im in ur entropys, evening things out |
| 07:53.40 | Shirik | oh no, it's eating up an entire core |
| 07:53.41 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 07:53.42 | Adys | good evening zenzio |
| 07:53.44 | Shirik | so it is computing |
| 07:54.11 | sylvanaar | or spinning |
| 07:54.21 | Shirik | ok I'm killing this |
| 07:54.22 | Shirik | taking too long |
| 07:54.37 | Shirik | By the time we have enough power to generate a key like that, we'll have the power to break it |
| 07:54.42 | nevcairiel | i wonder if wowace would accept a 32kbit key :d |
| 07:55.09 | nevcairiel | overflows the database table |
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| 07:56.31 | nevcairiel | wow this is taking forever |
| 07:56.42 | nevcairiel | wtb multi-threaded key generator |
| 07:56.46 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:57.01 | Shirik | I think there's too many collisions |
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| 07:57.17 | sylvanaar | what do you guys use |
| 07:57.22 | Shirik | openssl |
| 07:57.29 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 07:57.32 | nevcairiel | I'm just using the putty key generator here |
| 07:57.50 | sylvanaar | yeah, i usually use putty, openssl is a bit much |
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| 07:58.05 | nevcairiel | just depends if i'm on windows or linux |
| 07:58.44 | nevcairiel | this thing is supposed to have a status indicator |
| 07:58.49 | nevcairiel | but it didnt move one bit yet |
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| 07:59.33 | sylvanaar | i have to keep moving my mouse |
| 07:59.54 | nevcairiel | yeah i passed that phase |
| 08:00.00 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 08:00.11 | Zyonin | Good morning (or afternoon/night depending on your part of the world) fellow geeks |
| 08:00.20 | nevcairiel | it uses your mouse movements for entropy |
| 08:00.37 | bluspacecow | \o Zyonin |
| 08:01.19 | bluspacecow | >_< BRB emergency bio |
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| 08:02.34 | Zyonin | Well, I better visit the kitchen for the morning coffee |
| 08:03.33 | Adys | ~ugt |
| 08:03.34 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 08:05.49 | Shadowed | UGT describes how you feel in the morning more than a time standard |
| 08:08.13 | Zyonin | interesting... |
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| 08:11.20 | bluspacecow | oh hai guys |
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| 08:13.16 | Elkano | 3.3.x added API for checking which quests you have completed, right? Which addon would you suggest to see that list and a list of remaining quests? |
| 08:14.44 | bluspacecow | everyquest |
| 08:14.46 | bluspacecow | although |
| 08:14.59 | bluspacecow | i would like to find one that just has a /questcomplete <questID> |
| 08:15.09 | nevcairiel | would be trivial to write |
| 08:15.11 | bluspacecow | would be much simplier and I think someone has written one like that elk |
| 08:15.29 | bluspacecow | in prelim. testing for 3.3 |
| 08:15.41 | bluspacecow | or was it 3.3.2 quest tracking come ? |
| 08:15.49 | nevcairiel | its in 3.3.0 |
| 08:15.50 | bluspacecow | *shrug* someone correct me please |
| 08:15.55 | bluspacecow | ty nev |
| 08:16.53 | zenzio | http://averagecats.com/2002 |
| 08:16.56 | bluspacecow | unfortunately i personallly have no idea how to write it ...maybe a call to that function and some sort of bubble sort through the array returned |
| 08:17.34 | nevcairiel | just conver the array to a hash, then you have easy lookups |
| 08:18.27 | bluspacecow | really ? why is it faster ? (interested in finding out reasons not flaming ya :) ) |
| 08:18.59 | nevcairiel | because you can just do "if quests[id] then print("Completed") end" :P |
| 08:19.06 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 08:19.11 | bluspacecow | that is groovy |
| 08:19.14 | Elkano | yeah, no need for binary search on arrays in lua |
| 08:19.28 | bluspacecow | any sort of tradeoffs for converting it to a hash ? cpu/ memory wise ? |
| 08:19.41 | bluspacecow | http://www.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/05275ceae9100541dfc74cbc74151bbe.jpg |
| 08:19.48 | nevcairiel | the initial convert takes a bit of cpu |
| 08:19.58 | nevcairiel | but you only do it once |
| 08:20.27 | bluspacecow | how bad ? freeze cursor bad ? spinning pizza wheel of doom bad ? |
| 08:20.45 | Elkano | well, you don't do it at all directly, right? it just happens in background |
| 08:21.25 | bluspacecow | oh i see :) |
| 08:21.35 | bluspacecow | *pokes elkano* Go write it :) |
| 08:22.13 | bluspacecow | you could call it elkano's quest query |
| 08:22.16 | bluspacecow | or /eq2 |
| 08:22.20 | Elkano | bluspacecow, LibInventory keeps a table of all existing itemids in game which are about 46k with IDs up to 55k I think (so you have gaps). I don't think you notice any conversion |
| 08:22.27 | bluspacecow | da boom boom ching ! |
| 08:24.40 | bluspacecow | lolz @ Setting up the PTR stickie |
| 08:24.44 | bluspacecow | its out of date ! |
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| 08:29.56 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 08:29.58 | bluspacecow | odd |
| 08:30.05 | bluspacecow | logging into the PTR |
| 08:30.13 | bluspacecow | load screen is stuck on a full bar |
| 08:30.25 | bluspacecow | netstat -n shows no connection to any PTR realm servers |
| 08:30.29 | bluspacecow | on my premade |
| 08:30.35 | Corrodias | funny, that's what your mother said last night. |
| 08:30.40 | bluspacecow | lolz |
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| 08:39.06 | Wobin | Corrodias, if she's playing WoW while doing you, you clearly had her attention =P |
| 08:40.37 | Adys | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/reputation.html#other |
| 08:40.42 | Adys | lol at the not up to date stuff |
| 08:40.59 | Corrodias | damn right. |
| 08:41.50 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 08:41.50 | Wobin | a getall scan did -not- crash my WoW |
| 08:41.54 | Wobin | this must be a tiny server |
| 08:42.09 | Wobin | only 23k auctions |
| 08:42.12 | bluspacecow | wobin : when it does that wipe Auc-Scandata.lua |
| 08:42.16 | bluspacecow | in your WTF folder. |
| 08:42.19 | bluspacecow | the crashing I mean |
| 08:42.32 | Wobin | bluspacecow, yeah, I probably should for PM |
| 08:42.43 | bluspacecow | PM ? |
| 08:43.34 | Wobin | Proudmoore |
| 08:43.41 | bluspacecow | ah i see |
| 08:55.31 | bluspacecow | "We will be conducting maintenance on the PTR servers tomorrow (3/2) at approximately 6:00 AM PST. The duration of this maintenance is scheduled for 6 hours of downtime. " |
| 08:55.35 | bluspacecow | i can has new build ? |
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| 08:57.23 | Wobin | hokay |
| 08:57.27 | Wobin | rogue builds |
| 08:57.32 | Wobin | I've not played a rogue in a long time |
| 08:57.37 | Wobin | anyone have some good links? |
| 08:57.43 | Wobin | got to get him from 70 up |
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| 08:58.08 | Wobin | Originally was a mace combat rogue |
| 09:06.15 | Wobin | You can mail BoA cross faction |
| 09:06.22 | Wobin | but you can't cross realm, right? =) |
| 09:06.55 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
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| 09:14.10 | Fisker | HEY WOBIN |
| 09:15.16 | Bruners | hey Wobin |
| 09:15.31 | bluspacecow | HEY ARNOLD |
| 09:17.55 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 09:17.58 | Fisker | die |
| 09:18.04 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 09:18.08 | bluspacecow | *dies* |
| 09:18.11 | bluspacecow | res plz |
| 09:23.45 | Arrowmaster | lame, cant get roadkills with uav |
| 09:24.16 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:32.41 | bluspacecow | ... |
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| 09:59.22 | Adys | anyone decent with sql? |
| 09:59.37 | nevcairiel | decent enough usually |
| 09:59.42 | Adys | kay |
| 09:59.53 | Adys | Ive got some page that queries generic foreignkeys linearly |
| 10:00.02 | Adys | lemme show you, sec |
| 10:01.46 | Adys | nevcairiel: http://dpaste.com/166815/ |
| 10:01.59 | Adys | this is using django's orm |
| 10:02.20 | Wobin | anyone know a good rogue advice site? |
| 10:02.28 | Adys | what I *normally* only need is name, id |
| 10:02.42 | Adys | and an additional different field or two for specific models |
| 10:02.42 | nevcairiel | django doesnt join that? |
| 10:02.47 | Adys | not with foreign keys no |
| 10:02.55 | Adys | er |
| 10:02.57 | Adys | generic foreignkeys |
| 10:04.19 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 10:05.20 | Adys | anyway nevcairiel, what would a better raw sql look like? |
| 10:09.53 | nevcairiel | eh, i had to quickly look up what django means with generic foreign key |
| 10:10.25 | nevcairiel | hm lets see |
| 10:11.28 | nevcairiel | you need name, id out of the gameobjects class i reckon? |
| 10:11.43 | nevcairiel | s/class/table/ |
| 10:11.51 | Adys | yep |
| 10:11.55 | Adys | er |
| 10:11.56 | Adys | and slug |
| 10:12.05 | nevcairiel | yeah which fields exactly dont matter |
| 10:13.32 | nevcairiel | whats the relation between addition and addedobject? one-one? |
| 10:14.03 | Adys | many to many |
| 10:14.21 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/166818/ |
| 10:14.28 | nevcairiel | many many? a added object can be in more then one addition? |
| 10:14.44 | nevcairiel | oh well, doesnt matter |
| 10:15.06 | Adys | hmm |
| 10:15.09 | Adys | i should prolly change it |
| 10:15.18 | nevcairiel | its not important for the query |
| 10:15.21 | Adys | ya |
| 10:16.36 | nevcairiel | Ah, i see now |
| 10:16.42 | nevcairiel | AddedObject is your custom many-many join table |
| 10:16.47 | Adys | yes |
| 10:18.47 | nevcairiel | You want one query to do all, or one query per addition? |
| 10:19.03 | Adys | one per addition is fine, the page never has more than 10 additions up at one time |
| 10:19.11 | Adys | also its probably safer |
| 10:19.19 | nevcairiel | its also easier to parse imho |
| 10:19.23 | Adys | ya |
| 10:25.53 | nevcairiel | so it needs to decide which table to lookup from based on the content type |
| 10:25.57 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 10:26.33 | nevcairiel | django should just be smarter and join the stuff |
| 10:27.04 | Fisker | sweet |
| 10:27.10 | Fisker | successful troll is successful |
| 10:27.47 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure SQL can dynamically choose a table to lookup from based on a query result |
| 10:27.50 | nevcairiel | or i just dont know how |
| 10:28.15 | Adys | that shouldnt be an issue tho, sec |
| 10:29.05 | nevcairiel | from how i understand the ContentType thing, it also only stores the name of the model in the db, not the db table |
| 10:29.39 | Adys | the table is always appname_modelname |
| 10:30.00 | Adys | though |
| 10:30.08 | Adys | with QuerySet.raw i dont think you deal with table names |
| 10:30.11 | Adys | hold on |
| 10:30.21 | Adys | Im trying to make the model smarter first |
| 10:30.25 | nevcairiel | I've not used raw sql querys in django much |
| 10:30.35 | nevcairiel | i try to avoid them :d |
| 10:30.58 | Adys | yeha so do I, but Im attempting some important optimizations atm |
| 10:31.25 | Adys | [sql] (253.07ms) 1118 queries with 18 duplicates |
| 10:31.51 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 10:31.58 | nevcairiel | could always do that simpler |
| 10:32.01 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 10:32.02 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 10:32.07 | nevcairiel | nvm |
| 10:36.14 | nevcairiel | I can see how generic foreign keys are really a bitch to optimize |
| 10:36.41 | nevcairiel | since you can't really join, as the table you need to join to can be different for every row |
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| 10:38.42 | Adys | hmm |
| 10:40.22 | Adys | http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/db/sql/#topics-db-sql |
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| 11:32.59 | xqo | I'm supposed to make a meal with minced meat or sausages, but I have no idea what to make. Ideas? |
| 11:34.12 | Wobin | chile con carne? |
| 11:34.43 | xqo | not in the mood for it, more? |
| 11:34.53 | jadakren | rissoles |
| 11:35.08 | jadakren | rice + mince + awesome herbs |
| 11:35.12 | jadakren | nomnomnom |
| 11:35.23 | xqo | what herbs? |
| 11:35.31 | jadakren | any kind you want |
| 11:35.32 | Wobin | whatever you have at hand |
| 11:35.39 | jadakren | basil is good |
| 11:36.02 | jadakren | i think you might also need some breadcrumbs |
| 11:36.10 | Wobin | and egg |
| 11:36.12 | Wobin | to bind |
| 11:36.22 | xqo | to bind the meat into rissoles? |
| 11:36.36 | Wobin | the meat and breadcrumbs and rice |
| 11:36.42 | xqo | oh |
| 11:37.01 | xqo | too hard, i think |
| 11:37.01 | xqo | more? |
| 11:37.14 | Wobin | um |
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| 11:37.22 | jadakren | just put the mince in the microwave set phasers to stun come back in half n hour |
| 11:37.29 | xqo | dont have a microwave |
| 11:37.34 | xqo | haha |
| 11:37.37 | xqo | oh hahahahaa |
| 11:37.41 | jadakren | crack out the oxy acetylne torch |
| 11:37.49 | xqo | wahahhahhahaha, set phasers to stun :RRRRRRRRRR |
| 11:38.15 | xqo | what about the sausages, any ideas for those? |
| 11:38.38 | jadakren | put under grill come back in 8min |
| 11:39.07 | xqo | I'm supposed to make dinner for me, my father and my sister, so it has to be something decent |
| 11:39.10 | xqo | yet easy |
| 11:39.33 | jadakren | you know how to make gravy ? |
| 11:39.41 | xqo | nope |
| 11:40.01 | xqo | i know how to cut, boil, roast and fry |
| 11:40.32 | jadakren | rissoles will be easier then, i once made some with curry spices and then after they were properly formed... cook them in the curry sauce... was noms |
| 11:41.59 | jadakren | http://www.ifood.tv/network/meat_rissole/recipes |
| 11:42.02 | xqo | i tried finding out what rissoles are, kind of like cakes of meat? |
| 11:42.05 | jadakren | http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Spicy-Beef-Rissoles-L3636.html |
| 11:42.48 | jadakren | traditionally they are balls of meat, with a bread like look... |
| 11:43.00 | xqo | it all sounds way too hard |
| 11:43.05 | xqo | no ideas for stuff i can just put on a plate? |
| 11:43.14 | xqo | like grill meat, add some vegetables and boil some rice |
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| 11:43.17 | jadakren | not really |
| 11:43.17 | xqo | or whatever |
| 11:43.33 | jadakren | but thats what sausages are for really... |
| 11:43.41 | jadakren | spike > fire > noms |
| 11:43.53 | xqo | but its got to be something, not just sausages |
| 11:44.02 | xqo | since its for more than just me |
| 11:44.36 | jadakren | no idea i always cook for myself and its usually fired spicy indian vegetables and tofu |
| 11:44.48 | xqo | spicy indian vegetables |
| 11:44.52 | xqo | that sounds exciting! |
| 11:44.57 | jadakren | yep with tofu and tempeh |
| 11:45.05 | xqo | never heard of |
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| 11:46.53 | xqo | i just read about tofu, it looks cool |
| 11:46.56 | xqo | is it hard to find? |
| 11:47.12 | jadakren | its like tofu but has a much more interesting texture... i usually buy the stuff nutrisoy make since they soak theirs in soy sauces so its much tastier |
| 11:47.29 | jadakren | im pretty sure both are made from soy bean |
| 11:47.36 | jadakren | not 100% |
| 11:47.45 | xqo | ye, according to wikipedia |
| 11:48.12 | jadakren | lamb sausages with pine nut and basil are awesome too |
| 11:48.21 | xqo | ill go to the store and have a look around.. maybe something comes to mind |
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| 11:50.35 | jadakren | not sure about where you live but here in south australia only asian shops sell tofu in various forms at a reasonable price in decent quanities... normal supermarkets generally only see tofu as a tiny token gesture shelf at crazy prices |
| 11:50.35 | Wobin | if you're going for the cook and plate |
| 11:50.38 | Wobin | without any prep |
| 11:50.40 | Wobin | go for steaks |
| 11:51.47 | jadakren | i had big steaks of swordfish and streamed vegetables soaked in onion sauce the other night...was pretty good |
| 11:51.56 | jadakren | steamed * |
| 11:52.33 | xqo | i think i found something |
| 11:53.02 | xqo | minced meat, salt, pepper, egg and mustard in a bowl and make a cake. fry dat shit and eat as beef |
| 11:53.23 | jadakren | should be interesting |
| 11:53.30 | jadakren | mustard sauce or seeds ? |
| 11:53.31 | xqo | yes sir |
| 11:53.44 | xqo | the kind you put on sausages |
| 11:53.51 | jadakren | out of a bottle ? |
| 11:53.51 | xqo | but i have a slight problem |
| 11:53.55 | xqo | how do you fry potatoes? |
| 11:54.05 | jadakren | you have to steam them slightly first |
| 11:54.19 | xqo | how slightly |
| 11:54.35 | jadakren | so the skin can slip off but not too much that you can squash them |
| 11:54.44 | jadakren | then slice them up and fry in butter |
| 11:55.08 | jadakren | oil will make them taste yuck... butter is better imo |
| 11:55.20 | xqo | oki, will try |
| 11:55.20 | xqo | thanks! |
| 11:55.26 | xqo | im off to the store |
| 11:55.31 | jadakren | but it needs to be hot enough that they go brown quickly |
| 11:57.36 | nevcairiel | whats "the" meta gem for dps warriors? |
| 11:57.54 | nevcairiel | crit/critdmg? |
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| 11:59.23 | Arrowmaster | and already a patch for bfbc2 |
| 12:00.29 | Arrowmaster | and veteran status still doesnt work |
| 12:02.13 | xqo | wait what |
| 12:02.38 | xqo | you get to play already? |
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| 12:18.11 | xqo | things just got alot more interesting |
| 12:18.12 | xqo | fuck dinner |
| 12:18.23 | xqo | BFBC2 IS UP NOW :DDDD |
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| 13:31.03 | Kaso | on a whois query: |
| 13:31.03 | Kaso | Administrative Contact: |
| 13:31.03 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.04 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.04 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.04 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.21 | Wobin | now there's an awesome phone number |
| 13:31.53 | Fisker | your mother is a phone number Wobin |
| 13:35.42 | Kalroth | Fisker: which your father dialed a lot! |
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| 13:38.33 | jadakren | naturally |
| 13:38.46 | jadakren | and you're the excess toll fees ? |
| 13:39.28 | Kalroth | feces* |
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| 13:42.21 | jadakren | face |
| 13:54.41 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/internet_bible.jpg |
| 13:55.12 | Cide | lacks admiral ackbar |
| 13:56.16 | zenzio | why does that make me think of Fisker |
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| 14:42.07 | msoul | One addon i've been looking for, it displays the icons in the middle of the screen i.e. prot warriors use it |
| 14:42.47 | Lopeppeppy | many addons can do that. |
| 14:43.07 | msoul | Care to name one or two |
| 14:43.11 | Lopeppeppy | are you talking regular action buttons, buff reminders...? |
| 14:43.35 | msoul | displays shield slam when it's readt for instance |
| 14:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | ghostpulse, iirc the name correctly, is one of those |
| 14:44.55 | olafski | tellmewhen can do that too |
| 14:45.08 | olafski | or perhaps something like event horizon or forte? |
| 14:46.02 | msoul | no not forte... the one i saw was displaying the icon in the middle of the screen |
| 14:46.17 | msoul | checking the ones you've suggested |
| 14:46.21 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8168-BuffWatcher.html |
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| 14:48.24 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10629-Cork.html |
| 14:48.30 | olafski | I use tellmewhen on my paladin to let me know when I should reapply sacred shield, divine plea etc |
| 14:48.53 | olafski | but as lopeppeppy there are many, check out the suggestions and take the one you like ;) |
| 14:49.01 | Lopeppeppy | those are ideas, my eyes aren't working right to actually read the text, sorry |
| 14:49.34 | Lopeppeppy | i just searched warrior on the site |
| 14:50.27 | msoul | yeah i am checking them |
| 14:50.42 | olafski | for abilities i generally just look at the action buttons :< |
| 14:50.44 | msoul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EWFz94HQWI&feature=player_embedded# |
| 14:51.07 | msoul | if you fast forward to 2:30 you'll see what i am talking about |
| 14:51.41 | Kraps | http://sigmundcarlandalfred.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/the-perfectly-pc-cartoon/ |
| 14:52.20 | olafski | didn't youtube have a feature to link to a certain time index? |
| 14:52.44 | msoul | I've never heard of that option |
| 14:53.28 | olafski | that bar with the icons floating down is either forte or event horizon.. I don't really see a shield slam icon popping up otherwise |
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| 14:53.48 | msoul | no not that bar |
| 14:53.56 | olafski | I must be blind then :P |
| 14:54.10 | msoul | hehe :) |
| 14:54.44 | olafski | oh now I see it |
| 14:55.10 | olafski | that's sword and board I think, not shield slam.. dunno which addon could do that, I guess tellmewhen can do it |
| 14:56.03 | olafski | would it be bad to send some kind of "ping" out on the addon channel every 10 minutes just so I can see if people are using my addon, out of curiosity? ;) |
| 14:57.21 | cog|sleep | some people might get paranoid if they found out... but fuck 'em imo |
| 14:58.07 | cogwheel | if it's not going to cause performance issues and you're not actually getting any "personal" info from them, i don't see why not |
| 14:58.33 | olafski | so I wouldn't be the only one who does that? I can tell from the amount of downloads that people are using it but I'm just wondering if people on my realm are using it :P I'd just have the addon send out some addon channel message every X minutes and have my own version of the addon report it when I receive that message |
| 14:59.01 | olafski | hm that would mean adding an onupdate function so I guess it would impact performance a little.. could just add it to the onevent instead |
| 14:59.13 | mitch0 | olafski: personally, I'd get rid of your addon asap if I found out :P |
| 14:59.14 | cogwheel | it wouldn't really be any different, mechanically speaking, than addons like omen or DBM which warn you your version is out of date |
| 14:59.43 | olafski | yeah though those things actually make sense =) other than from a curiosity standpoint |
| 15:00.17 | mitch0 | just stand in <capital-of-choice> and /yell hug me if you use <my-addon> |
| 15:00.23 | olafski | :) |
| 15:00.41 | cogwheel | i should try that some time :> |
| 15:00.50 | olafski | which addon do you make? =) |
| 15:01.06 | cogwheel | buydropper is probably my most widely used (now under new management) |
| 15:01.08 | olafski | I have about 8k downloads total so I imagine it wouldn't be too many people |
| 15:01.22 | cogwheel | macrosequence got >100k downloads when one of the patches broke /castsequence |
| 15:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | my cat is made of the crazies. *sigh* |
| 15:02.59 | olafski | hm not to be annoying or anything but looking at buydropper on wowinterface I can't really easily figure out what it does exactly |
| 15:03.15 | cogwheel | it's an auto-stocking addon |
| 15:03.15 | olafski | automatically buys reagents? |
| 15:03.24 | olafski | oh nice I gotta get that for my gf ;) |
| 15:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | iirc, buys your stock for you |
| 15:03.27 | cogwheel | automatically buys or withdraws anything you set up |
| 15:04.31 | olafski | does it warn you when your supply runs low too? +) |
| 15:04.59 | cogwheel | it didn't when i gave up development in like 2007 or 2008 >< |
| 15:06.27 | olafski | k :) |
| 15:06.55 | olafski | my addon does the opposite.. sells stuff you don't want :P |
| 15:07.01 | cogwheel | heh |
| 15:10.09 | Fisker | HEY COGwheel |
| 15:10.17 | cogwheel | HEY FISker |
| 15:11.29 | Fisker | you don't get it cogwheel |
| 15:15.13 | cogwheel | i don't get it fisker |
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| 15:45.45 | olafski | got a letter about my 2007 income tax.. I got all worried, turns out I rated my income as 10 euro too high >_< |
| 15:46.11 | Lopeppeppy | oh noes |
| 15:47.53 | olafski | it's somewhat comforting to know that they take the time to mail me about this stuff even if I made a mistake that isn't considered fraud |
| 15:47.57 | theorbtwo | They are going to send you a cheque for the 3 EUR difference in taxes, less the 3 EUR penalty for getting it wrong? |
| 15:48.04 | olafski | though this probably cost more than 10 euro |
| 15:48.17 | olafski | I don't think there's a penalty for getting it wrong |
| 15:48.55 | olafski | hence why I never take too much time for my taxes |
| 15:49.05 | olafski | if I do it wrong they'll probably just tell me.. or ignore it |
| 15:49.23 | Lopeppeppy | I think there's an error cap in the US. Like, don't bother if it's less than X, because that's the postage for deling w/ it. :) |
| 15:50.56 | olafski | yeah |
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| 15:52.37 | DWSR | GOOD MORNING VIETNAM! |
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| 15:53.30 | DWSR | olafski: If you pay too much tax, there's no penalty. :P |
| 15:53.56 | olafski | I think if you pay too little there's no penalty either |
| 15:54.04 | olafski | you just have to make up for the difference when they find out |
| 15:54.07 | olafski | up to a limit though I guess :) |
| 15:55.35 | jnwhiteh | Yay, I finally have a surgery date! |
| 15:56.58 | Sixen | :| |
| 15:57.10 | Sixen | Glad to hear it. But sucks you need surgery. |
| 15:57.45 | Fisker | boob enlargement Sixen |
| 15:58.15 | theorbtwo | Speaking of boobs and surgery, how's your recovery, Lopeppeppy? |
| 15:58.29 | alestane | theorbtwo: Totally don't go there right now. |
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| 15:59.04 | Sixen | lol fisker |
| 15:59.21 | theorbtwo | Er, right, not going there, then. |
| 16:00.43 | theorbtwo | That may have come out more sexist then I meant it to. |
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| 16:03.53 | alestane | Not that, don't worry. |
| 16:03.59 | alestane | At least, not mostly that. |
| 16:04.06 | cog|away | Fisker: yes, i have no bananas |
| 16:04.28 | theorbtwo | OK. I shall try to worry less about my stupider side. |
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| 16:10.23 | alestane | theorbtwo: Long story short, the hand is fine. Something else either related or not sent her back to the ER yesterday. |
| 16:10.56 | Lopeppeppy | hugs jnwhiteh |
| 16:11.40 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, I have a secondary infection. Surgery itself went great, but the other opportunistic germs suck bigtime |
| 16:11.56 | alestane | jnwhiteh: They're supposed to snip a bit off your...was it your thymus gland? |
| 16:12.09 | jnwhiteh | the tumour on my pituitary gland |
| 16:12.13 | jnwhiteh | Lopeppeppy: =( |
| 16:12.18 | alestane | Pituitary, right, that makes sense. |
| 16:12.24 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: I'm sorry to hear that. |
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| 16:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | have many antibiotics and couch-rest until they ID my germs more specifically :) |
| 16:13.38 | alestane | jnwhiteh: So they're confident it really is acromelagy? |
| 16:13.51 | cog|away | i'm such a noob at life.... never broken a bone, my only surgery was wisdom teeth, and my migranes don't even hurt (they just distort my vision for a few minutes) |
| 16:13.56 | jnwhiteh | it is most certainly acromegaly. |
| 16:14.06 | jnwhiteh | I passed that test with flying colours. |
| 16:14.09 | alestane | Good to have a clear diagnosis. |
| 16:14.14 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Hopefully, it'll turn out to be something very curable, and you'll be back up to 100%. |
| 16:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | acromegaly sounds very Harry Potter |
| 16:14.30 | theorbtwo | jnwhiteh: Sorry to hear that. |
| 16:14.46 | cog|away | Lopeppeppy: or Princess Bride, for that matter |
| 16:14.52 | jnwhiteh | lol =) |
| 16:15.01 | theorbtwo | cog|away: Heh, that's a pretty small cloud, with a pretty good siliver lining -- I've been lucky with my health so far. |
| 16:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, aslong as it's not some MRSA crap, these antibiotics will kick it. |
| 16:15.05 | theorbtwo | knocks wood. |
| 16:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | they just also happen to kick me some too. |
| 16:16.47 | alestane | Oh, and my author copies just came today, jnwhiteh. |
| 16:17.01 | cog|work | so there's still hope... |
| 16:17.19 | jnwhiteh | alestane: hurray, sorry it took so long! |
| 16:17.21 | cog|work | i was worried mine might've been sent to my old address |
| 16:18.08 | olafski | I hardly ever visited a doctor until a couple of years ago.. maybe I'm getting old, I go there like 3 times a year now it seems |
| 16:19.22 | Fisker | whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cog|work? |
| 16:19.53 | cog|work | Fisker: what would you do oo oo for a klondike bar? |
| 16:20.15 | Fisker | go all the way |
| 16:20.22 | Fisker | What is a klondike bar anyway? |
| 16:20.36 | cog|work | chocolate coated ice cream loaded big and thick, no room for a stick |
| 16:20.58 | olafski | http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/products/klondike.jpg :) |
| 16:22.02 | Fisker | god |
| 16:22.10 | Fisker | i hate that kind of icecream |
| 16:22.31 | olafski | not one of my favourites either.. |
| 16:23.08 | Fisker | i can't think of an ice-cream i'd hate more |
| 16:23.08 | cog|work | no that's their ice cream sandwich version |
| 16:23.28 | olafski | actually this looks kind of nice but given a choice I would go for something else =) |
| 16:23.38 | cog|work | http://www.concentratedawesome.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/klondike.jpg |
| 16:23.45 | theorbtwo | Klondike bars are pretty yummy. |
| 16:23.59 | theorbtwo | Not a great format, but they tend to get the ingredients *just* right. |
| 16:24.28 | Fisker | i still hate them cog|work |
| 16:24.38 | Fisker | but especially the sandwich ones |
| 16:25.29 | Fisker | popsicles ftw |
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| 16:30.42 | Ackis | what would you do for a klondike bar cog|work? |
| 16:30.49 | Adys | I'd do you |
| 16:31.34 | Fisker | that's what i thought |
| 16:31.39 | cog|work | probably not much. Maybe if it was really hot out and i happened to be near a store i'd walk to the ice cream section... |
| 16:31.41 | Fisker | Then i found out what it was |
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| 17:00.29 | alestane | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp01092004.shtml semi-NFSW |
| 17:00.40 | alestane | semi-NSFW* |
| 17:01.49 | DWSR | rofl alestane |
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| 17:04.54 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | hi hi |
| 17:05.41 | DWSR | oh hi |
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| 17:13.34 | Adys | Cide: can you index() a stringio? |
| 17:13.34 | Cide | yes |
| 17:13.36 | Adys | neat |
| 17:13.51 | Cide | "abc".index("b") => 1 |
| 17:13.59 | Cide | ValueError if not found |
| 17:14.00 | Adys | i said a stringio :P |
| 17:14.04 | Cide | oh |
| 17:14.05 | Adys | not a string |
| 17:14.26 | Cide | then no |
| 17:14.36 | Cide | s.read().index() or custom solution |
| 17:14.56 | Adys | mmk |
| 17:16.27 | Adys | pos = data.tell() |
| 17:16.27 | Adys | index = data.read().index("\x00") |
| 17:16.28 | Adys | data.seek(pos) |
| 17:16.28 | Adys | return unicode(data.read(index - 1), "utf-8") |
| 17:16.31 | Adys | Cide: ^ ? |
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| 17:18.50 | Cide | index + 1 |
| 17:19.02 | Adys | i dont want the \0 |
| 17:19.07 | DWSR | index++! |
| 17:19.13 | Cide | then just index |
| 17:19.17 | Adys | hmm |
| 17:19.21 | Adys | oh yeah its 0 indexed |
| 17:19.28 | Cide | and read is number of bytes |
| 17:19.29 | Cide | so ye |
| 17:19.30 | Cide | p |
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| 17:20.25 | Kawne | Hey guys |
| 17:20.30 | Kawne | anyone got a sec for a lua help? |
| 17:20.42 | Cide | ~asktoask |
| 17:20.43 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 17:21.32 | Adys | hmmm, odd, it doesnt properly work |
| 17:21.42 | Kawne | okies sweet... trying to make my own oUF layout... whats the best way to embed .tga's and would you suggest using the ouf castbars? |
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| 17:23.18 | Adys | doh |
| 17:23.24 | Adys | data.seek(pos + index) |
| 17:23.33 | Adys | wait no |
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| 17:24.57 | foxlit | Portal Update Released: * Changed radio transmission frequency to comply with federal and state spectrum management regulation. |
| 17:24.59 | foxlit | What? |
| 17:25.26 | Adys | foxlit: they got some viral marketing going on for a sequel iirc |
| 17:25.48 | Adys | Cide: return unicode(data.read(index + 1)[:-1], "utf-8") |
| 17:26.11 | nevcairiel | is steam down? i can't login :( |
| 17:26.48 | DWSR | http://is.gd/9xxWD |
| 17:26.54 | DWSR | nevcairiel: No |
| 17:27.02 | Lunessa | Kawne: Most oUF layout authors include a folder with their custom art. And use the cast bars or not is up to you. They're perfectly fine, though not feature-rich like a dedicated mod. |
| 17:27.09 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Steam's running fine. |
| 17:27.23 | nevcairiel | eh not it worked, just had to restart it like 5 times |
| 17:27.28 | nevcairiel | s/not/now/ |
| 17:28.03 | Adys | ~google++ |
| 17:28.07 | Adys | ~karma google |
| 17:28.07 | purl | google has karma of 3 |
| 17:28.10 | Adys | ~karma microsoft |
| 17:28.10 | purl | microsoft has neutral karma |
| 17:28.55 | nevcairiel | now it crashed after start |
| 17:29.01 | nevcairiel | steam is terrible :P |
| 17:29.12 | Adys | you using the new steam nevcairiel ? |
| 17:29.15 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:29.30 | Adys | try it |
| 17:29.45 | DWSR | nevcairiel: You should. |
| 17:29.48 | DWSR | It's fantastic. |
| 17:29.49 | Gnarfoz | ~microsoft-- |
| 17:29.56 | DWSR | Miles ahead of the old Steam UI |
| 17:30.08 | Adys | altho I dont think it works in wine |
| 17:30.08 | durcyn | it's fine until the overlay fonts explode |
| 17:30.18 | DWSR | durcyn: Haven't had that happen yet |
| 17:30.37 | durcyn | you will. |
| 17:30.39 | Adys | DWSR, I'm surprised you like it though |
| 17:30.45 | Adys | it's webkit, made by macfags, remember? |
| 17:31.11 | DWSR | Adys: The whole UI isn't webkit. |
| 17:31.19 | DWSR | And also, webkit isn't mac exclusive. ;) |
| 17:31.31 | durcyn | the gradients are terrible, but at least they aren't olive drab green |
| 17:31.39 | durcyn | and the new library is just stupid |
| 17:31.40 | DWSR | durcyn: Heh, it's a beta. |
| 17:31.47 | DWSR | They'll smooth some of the stuff out, I'm sure. |
| 17:31.51 | Lunessa | Webkit is the heart of Chrome to you bigot bastard. |
| 17:31.55 | DWSR | I'm just glad that they finally fixed it. |
| 17:32.09 | Adys | am i the only one who sort of liked the olive colors? |
| 17:32.12 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 17:32.19 | Adys | i mean sure, integration-wise its shit |
| 17:32.26 | Adys | but i didnt really mind it |
| 17:32.27 | nevcairiel | i didnt mind the colors |
| 17:32.41 | DWSR | Sort of liked != didn't mind. |
| 17:33.03 | Adys | well i did sort of like them |
| 17:33.16 | Adys | i wouldnt have minded another color layout |
| 17:33.59 | foxlit | Hm, looks like WoW manages to fill GPU memory :/ |
| 17:34.12 | nevcairiel | mine doesnt |
| 17:34.18 | nevcairiel | how much gpu memory do you have? |
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| 17:37.44 | recluse | possible to use #... or have to use select("#", ...)? |
| 17:37.47 | stupiddigmouse | but what is weird that on WoW my GPU fan and temp climbs fast |
| 17:38.04 | Cide | you have to use select('#', ...) |
| 17:38.09 | stupiddigmouse | it's way louder playing WoW then Bad Company 2 |
| 17:38.10 | recluse | T_T k |
| 17:38.24 | stupiddigmouse | s/then/than/ |
| 17:38.27 | Cide | #(...) would return the length of the first element |
| 17:38.38 | recluse | =o interesting |
| 17:39.03 | Shirik | #... is faster than select('#', ...) |
| 17:39.13 | Cide | is #... possible? |
| 17:39.17 | nevcairiel | also does something completly different :P |
| 17:39.18 | Cide | I thought you added that locally only |
| 17:39.21 | Shirik | It is in my Lua! |
| 17:39.25 | Cide | well yeah |
| 17:39.31 | Cide | ur dumbbb |
| 17:39.32 | Cide | ! |
| 17:39.33 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:39.47 | Cide | why is airline support always so shitty |
| 17:39.52 | Cide | answer that Shirik |
| 17:39.55 | Shirik | because it can be |
| 17:39.59 | Shirik | it's really that simple |
| 17:40.05 | Cide | true :( |
| 17:40.11 | Shirik | people can't fight back against the airlines |
| 17:40.23 | Cide | been sitting in phone queue for ~20 min now |
| 17:40.30 | Cide | "thanks for calling, we'll answer soon!" |
| 17:40.41 | Shirik | what are you trying to do? |
| 17:40.48 | Cide | changing a flight |
| 17:40.59 | Cide | it got messed up by crappy session coding |
| 17:41.07 | Cide | I had like 6 trips opened at once, and booked 2 |
| 17:41.13 | Cide | except it booked the wrong trip |
| 17:41.26 | Cide | fail |
| 17:43.04 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:43.25 | Shirik | that's what you get for doing too much at once |
| 17:43.43 | Shirik | You expect airlines to have good programmers? They're all stolen by the actual aviation companies |
| 17:43.46 | Shirik | like boeing, lockheed, etc. |
| 17:44.31 | Cide | sure |
| 17:44.34 | Cide | just because you're one of them |
| 17:44.41 | Cide | and trying to be labeled as a good programmer |
| 17:44.51 | Cide | I see right through you |
| 17:45.05 | robotusch | Cide, because people want Singapore Airlines type service for Ryanair type fares |
| 17:45.21 | robotusch | so the Airlines have to send their phone support to India or the rest of SE Asia |
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| 17:46.01 | Shirik | so my radio sets off a siren whenever there's a message sent on EAS and then plays the message |
| 17:46.07 | Shirik | it woke me up today |
| 17:46.25 | Cide | nice |
| 17:46.34 | Shirik | "Special Marine Warning" because of thunderstorms on the seas... |
| 17:46.43 | Shirik | don't they have their own special frequency for that or something |
| 17:46.48 | nevcairiel | at least you wont miss the important warnings |
| 17:46.50 | Shirik | I don't care about something that's literally not even on the US |
| 17:47.35 | robotusch | <3 Test Match Special being interrupted for the shipping forecast |
| 17:48.46 | Fisker | robotusch |
| 17:49.25 | robotusch | Fisher |
| 17:50.03 | Lopeppeppy | shirik, the oceans are everywhere |
| 17:50.26 | zenzelezz | oceans are sneaky bastards |
| 17:51.15 | zenzelezz | they're like IM ON UR BEACH MESSIN UP UR CASTELS |
| 17:51.20 | Kawne | could anyone tell me the 'embed' lua code for .tga's? thanks.. |
| 17:51.57 | DWSR | ?? |
| 17:52.45 | Cide | you need to create a texture object and call :SetTexture("path/to/tga") |
| 17:53.48 | Kawne | ok and how do i position it? |
| 17:53.51 | Kawne | err wait |
| 17:54.24 | Kawne | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.37 | Kawne | then self.Texture:SetPoint(blablabla) |
| 17:54.47 | Cide | could be |
| 17:56.46 | Kawne | thanks |
| 17:57.13 | Shirik | zenzelezz: lol wtf |
| 17:57.15 | Kawne | self.Texture:SetTexture("/Interface/Addons/Addon/folder/texture.tga") - righty? |
| 17:57.24 | Kawne | thanks guys |
| 17:58.18 | DWSR | Kawne: \\Interface\\AddOns\\Addon\\folder\\texture.tga |
| 17:58.31 | DWSR | Directory seperators need to be properly escaped, and also, this is Windows, not Linux. |
| 17:59.14 | DWSR | err, for Windows, not for Mac* |
| 17:59.25 | Kraps | "Icecrown Citadel Zone-Buff is here" |
| 17:59.49 | nevcairiel | also, don't start the path with a seperator |
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| 18:13.53 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Did you see the latest update to Portal?? |
| 18:15.11 | cog|work | would an icc-geared warrior be able to solo kara? |
| 18:15.21 | cog|work | (as either prot or fury) |
| 18:16.25 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 18:16.51 | nevcairiel | a druid can pretty much |
| 18:17.17 | nevcairiel | netherspite will probably be tricky alone |
| 18:17.42 | nevcairiel | but its optional anyway =) |
| 18:18.16 | DWSR | An ICC geared anything but a rogue or warrior can solo everything in Kara. |
| 18:18.18 | cog|work | "<DND>[Aittydap] whispers: [Game Master]GM: Your world of warcraft account has been temporarily suspended. go to http://www.account77.com/wow.html for further information" |
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| 18:18.47 | nevcairiel | thats terrible |
| 18:18.48 | cog|work | i just want the mongoose formula |
| 18:18.55 | Fisker | that sucks cog|work |
| 18:18.57 | DWSR | You should be alright. |
| 18:19.05 | Lunessa | cog|work: EZ mode |
| 18:19.08 | Fisker | How were you in-game to receive the message when you were suspended though? |
| 18:19.20 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:19.20 | cog|work | Fisker: nub |
| 18:19.28 | DWSR | Chrome immediately flags that and won't even let me visit. |
| 18:20.05 | DWSR | fail |
| 18:22.45 | DWSR | I can't believe that freenode waits almost 5 minutes to kick you for ping timeouts |
| 18:22.57 | DWSR | almost 6 minutes& |
| 18:22.58 | DWSR | * |
| 18:28.47 | Lunessa | kicks DWSR for taking too long to ping. |
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| 18:40.58 | Kawne | guys anyone got any nice ui's for inspiration? |
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| 18:43.48 | alestane | DWSR: My understanding is that file paths in the WoW API can be supplied as either / or \ separators. (Functions that return paths, however, always use \ separators.) |
| 18:43.54 | Shirik | lua> 39/(39+5) |
| 18:43.55 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.88636363636364 |
| 18:44.50 | alestane | I prefer the idiom self.Texture:SetTexture(Interface\AddOns\AddOn\folder\/texture.tga]] , myself. |
| 18:44.59 | alestane | Erg. |
| 18:45.20 | alestane | self.Texture:SetTexture(Interface\AddOns\AddOn\folder\/texture.tga]] |
| 18:45.32 | alestane | Okay, I'm typing in [[ but it's displaying as ( |
| 18:46.21 | alestane | self.Texture:SetTexture[[Interface\AddOns\AddOn\folder\texture.tga]] |
| 18:46.25 | alestane | There we go. |
| 18:47.04 | Kawne | :P got any sick ui's in mind? |
| 18:48.02 | alestane | I've never really been into the whole "UI as art form" thing. It's cool that people do it, some funky stuff out there, but it's like casemodding...too much trouble for me. |
| 18:48.22 | alestane | I've always admired an old one called FairyTale, though |
| 18:49.21 | alestane | It was originally a Discard Art pack, but I think someone might have revived it as a kgPanels collection. |
| 18:50.28 | Kawne | yeh just seen it, got any comment on this? http://www.wowuigallery.com/topic/kawne-ui?replies=1#post-413 |
| 18:53.43 | alestane | Personally? I'm not a fan of the 'minimalist' approach, especially with such hard square edges. That's a matter of taste, though, it looks functional enough. |
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| 18:55.22 | zenzelezz | I've never quite understood why people want to put things in the middle of the screen |
| 18:55.35 | Kawne | once you try it, you love it |
| 18:55.47 | foxlit | WoW loading times off an SSD == fantastic |
| 18:55.58 | Kawne | yes i am getting bored of the whole minimalistic thing, im gonna redo my ui soon... thats why i was asking about tga's |
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| 18:56.10 | Kawne | SSD? |
| 18:56.12 | foxlit | zenzelezz: you do not really want to store at corners for vital information |
| 18:56.14 | zenzelezz | Kawne: I have tried it, and I disliked it |
| 18:56.24 | foxlit | *a |
| 18:56.28 | zenzelezz | foxlit: "vital" is a matter of opinion |
| 18:56.39 | Thrae | I recently started using DroodFocus for Feral (Tank/DPS) and I've found it useful after a bit of tweaking. |
| 18:56.54 | Kawne | @ foxlit: whats SSD? |
| 18:56.56 | zenzelezz | personally I use my custom (but not in any way creative) health/power bars about 1/4 from each side of the screen |
| 18:56.57 | foxlit | Your own health/mana bars. |
| 18:57.00 | alestane | Solid State Drive. |
| 18:57.01 | foxlit | Kawne: solid state disk. |
| 18:57.09 | Thrae | It's one of those "borg" mods that tries to do more than what it was designed for, but what it was designed for works well. |
| 18:57.11 | zenzelezz | no names, no pictures, just plain bars |
| 18:57.44 | Thrae | Side note: Has anyone been experiencing longer loading times going into instances with a party, especially Cross-Server PuGs? |
| 18:58.19 | Thrae | I think Blizzard has ninja-added a sync option so that everyone loads at around the same time, so you load as slowly as the slowest person in your group. |
| 18:58.49 | Fisker | are you alt+tabbing? |
| 18:59.08 | Thrae | WoW for me is on a stripe (aka RAID0) of 2x SSDs, and it normally loads very quickly (almost instantly), as it does when I'm alone entering an instance. |
| 18:59.11 | Thrae | Fisker: No |
| 18:59.32 | Fisker | well doesn't sync fully up atleast |
| 18:59.50 | Thrae | I've noticed the progress bar just stays at 0% until it very quickly (in about 2 seconds) fills up to 100%. |
| 19:00.16 | zenzelezz | I always assumed that was some sort of communication thing |
| 19:00.21 | Thrae | The progress bar has always seemed mostly synced to overall client loading time, so having it wait at 0% means it's waiting for something from the server. |
| 19:00.29 | Fisker | mine only does that when alt+tabbing |
| 19:00.30 | Thrae | Well, maybe, but I do think it's server-related. |
| 19:00.41 | Thrae | Well, I also run Windowed. |
| 19:00.50 | Fisker | same |
| 19:01.03 | alestane | Thrae: That's typically what I observe. |
| 19:01.40 | Thrae | Well it *wasn't* what I observed about...1-2 months ago. I would normally load before everyone else in the instance since my computer is normally higher-spec. |
| 19:01.40 | Fisker | a |
| 19:02.25 | Thrae | Now that never happens anymore, and since no one else has moved when I load, they probably just loaded too. |
| 19:04.59 | cog|work | O.o there's been a patch since earlier this morning? |
| 19:04.59 | alestane | Lunessa: For some reason, the DJ in my head has been running "Be In My Video" almost non-stop for the last five days. |
| 19:04.59 | alestane | cog|work: Tools update, I think. |
| 19:05.08 | cog|work | 'twould appear so |
| 19:05.22 | Lunessa | alestane: Look up "If You Were In My Movie" by Suzanne Vega then. |
| 19:06.09 | alestane | Except s/he (it?) stopped for a few minutes to play "and this bird can sing" (title may be incorrect). |
| 19:06.59 | Lunessa | Blackbird? |
| 19:07.25 | alestane | Not the song I usually think of by that title. |
| 19:08.40 | alestane | I was close. "And Your Bird Can Sing," off of Revolver. |
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| 19:12.54 | Fisker | b |
| 19:13.21 | Lunessa | alestane: Hot damn. Good album. |
| 19:14.23 | alestane | I seem to recall that track was the Devil to play in Beatles Rock Band. |
| 19:14.46 | Fisker | but anyway |
| 19:14.48 | Fisker | lulz = lulz |
| 19:14.58 | Fisker | It appears that the first kinda-working crack for Ass Creed 2 is out |
| 19:15.03 | Fisker | 14 days before the US release |
| 19:15.19 | foxlit | I heard online save game functionality was optional in that game. |
| 19:15.37 | Fisker | it isn't |
| 19:15.44 | Fisker | and that's the only thing not working yet, apparently |
| 19:16.40 | Lunessa | Fisker: Are you talking about a game or porn? |
| 19:16.48 | Fisker | a game |
| 19:16.56 | Fisker | AssAss Creed 2 then |
| 19:17.01 | Fisker | or Asssassin's Creed 2 |
| 19:21.08 | Adys | This is a first |
| 19:21.27 | Adys | my mother is consulting manpages before asking me for help with her ubuntu installation |
| 19:21.33 | Adys | ~linux++ |
| 19:21.53 | foxlit | Fisker: http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1565564&cid=31297624 |
| 19:23.42 | Taroven | Fisker: You know it's not gonna be long at all till those online saves are routed to/from localhost. =P |
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| 19:27.29 | alestane | Never, EVER, build your business model around total system control. |
| 19:27.45 | Cide | unless your business is skynet |
| 19:29.01 | ckknight | alestane: why not? |
| 19:29.02 | ckknight | :P |
| 19:29.18 | alestane | Because it *will* be subverted. |
| 19:29.19 | zenzelezz | Assassin's Creed 2 has become self-aware and launches assassins in all major capitals |
| 19:29.26 | Fisker | Taroven as i understood it those who made the emulator didn't include save support on purpose(probably scared of being tracked down) |
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| 19:31.00 | Fisker | foxlit i trust the people who got the game over those who don't :) |
| 19:31.15 | Fisker | In any case if it is stored offline it's probably only for purposes of easing network load |
| 19:32.41 | Kraps | Fisker: haha! |
| 19:32.41 | Taroven | Fisker: Wouldn't blame 'em. |
| 19:38.05 | Lunessa | Skynet won't need to send murderous robots. It'll just deliver Hostess snack foods, pizza, soda, and compelling new video games and porn and wait 2 generations for humans to quit breeding and die of heart failure. |
| 19:45.58 | KarlKFI|work | porn doesn't really stop people from breeding |
| 19:46.02 | cog|work | wonders when the badge train will start running again |
| 19:46.40 | KarlKFI|work | if anything, porn makes people more likely to have more sex, provided they could get sex int eh first place. |
| 19:47.26 | durcyn | speaking of. http://www.salon.com/life/broadsheet/2010/03/02/olympic_condoms |
| 19:48.11 | Dagmar | I find it highly entertaining that initially they were saying that the condoms were only being given to athletes |
| 19:48.20 | Dagmar | ...which made their usage numbers outright hilarious. |
| 19:49.01 | Lunessa | KarlKFI|work: Which is what the soda, pizza and twinkies are for. |
| 19:49.02 | KarlKFI|work | well at least you can't blame it all ont eh americans |
| 19:49.32 | KarlKFI|work | yeah but Lunessa, when everyone's fat i think they'll lower their standards |
| 19:49.52 | KarlKFI|work | unless we section of a pretty people to keep doign tv and magazines |
| 19:50.18 | KarlKFI|work | to maintain the impossibly high expectations |
| 19:50.39 | Lunessa | Karl, Karl, karl. I love you like a younger, better-looking brother, but you're /killing/ my joke. |
| 19:50.54 | KarlKFI|work | :) |
| 19:52.33 | KarlKFI|work | context is important. in this room machines taking over the world is a valid concern! |
| 19:53.35 | Lunessa | It is, especially since some of us in here would totally write code for Sorayama style robots to be used by Skynet. |
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| 19:54.47 | Kraps | im so tired its not even funny |
| 19:55.20 | Kraps | cog|work: im at work |
| 19:55.29 | cog|work | me too ^_^ |
| 19:55.57 | cog|work | just got in with some MBS folks |
| 19:57.16 | Kraps | well.. i got no wow at work |
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| 20:01.09 | Kawne | hey guys check this out1:P not related to ui's but its related to gfx :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR-NZEbl7zQ |
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| 20:04.42 | Kaso | What are the addons that profile SendAddonMessage channel usage? |
| 20:06.22 | Lunessa | cog|work: Badge train? |
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| 20:12.26 | olafski | ok really.. isn't there an addon that allows me to move the default tooltip and does nothing else? or hardly anything else? it's kind of annoying that it's in front of my UI all the time |
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| 20:13.26 | alestane | Lots of addons for customizing the tooltip. |
| 20:15.57 | olafski | hm but I just want to move it up a little :< |
| 20:17.10 | alestane | Um. http://vrank.com/tooltip.html ? |
| 20:17.18 | alestane | I think. Url typed from memory. |
| 20:17.51 | olafski | the domain is wrong I think :( it's one of those "best links here" site |
| 20:17.56 | cog|work | vranx.com |
| 20:18.00 | olafski | cheers |
| 20:18.06 | olafski | both of you :) |
| 20:18.08 | nevcairiel | olafski: get tinytippositioning |
| 20:18.39 | nevcairiel | requires you to use lua config without the other parts of tinytip, but it just positions stuff |
| 20:22.07 | olafski | looks good |
| 20:22.35 | olafski | downloaded it off some dodgy site with chinese characters |
| 20:24.18 | Dagmar | Well, so long as $freeantivirusprogram can't find anything wrong with it, it's probably safe as houses then |
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| 20:24.35 | Dagmar | You should email it to all your friends. |
| 20:25.43 | olafski | well, only lua and txt files in it so not much issue there I guess |
| 20:25.47 | olafski | I'm more worried about the site itself ;p |
| 20:26.10 | Dagmar | By the sound of it, it wouldn't even come up here. |
| 20:26.23 | Dagmar | I have all of China, Japan, Korea, and Russian blacklisted here. |
| 20:26.37 | Dagmar | ...and about half a dozen African and South American countries as well. |
| 20:26.58 | olafski | why oO |
| 20:27.14 | Dagmar | Does anything good _ever_ come out of those netblocks? |
| 20:27.25 | Dagmar | From what I can tell, the answer is "never". |
| 20:27.35 | olafski | if I got the addon from there, yes .. couldn't find it on curse or wowinterface =) |
| 20:27.40 | olafski | http://wow.somegate.com/topic.php?topic_uid=92784 is the site btw ;) |
| 20:27.47 | Dagmar | Literally hundreds of thousands of firewall incidents from those netblocks last year. |
| 20:28.05 | olafski | I'm so glad that I can't see what my firewall intercepts |
| 20:28.17 | Dagmar | They were also the homes of 82% of the sites I found passing malware |
| 20:28.57 | Dagmar | China in particular. |
| 20:30.39 | olafski | addon works great btw nevcairiel, thanks :) what's the difference between FAnchor, FCursorAnchor and MAnchor though? MAnchor seems to be the one I "need" but I don't know what the others do |
| 20:31.24 | nevcairiel | FAnchor is for frame tooltips, unit buttons etc, MAnchor for mouseover units |
| 20:31.40 | nevcairiel | isnt it explained in the comments? |
| 20:31.42 | nevcairiel | it is in my version |
| 20:31.49 | olafski | yeah I read the comments but it wasn't exactly clear to me :< |
| 20:33.17 | Dagmar | Interesting. |
| 20:33.32 | Dagmar | That site resolves to 211.233.12.125 which is Korean, _clearly_, but not listed in Okean's list |
| 20:33.38 | Dagmar | submits a change request |
| 20:33.39 | Kraps | random idle thought: is there a simairport? |
| 20:34.50 | olafski | idly suggest it to the sim* makers and it'll be there in a month |
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| 20:37.13 | olafski | nearly got it the way I want it.. my frameunit tooltips show up exactly above my mouseover tooltips even though I set their offsets to the same thing oO |
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| 20:38.46 | olafski | perfect.. you rock nevcairiel :) |
| 20:39.51 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 20:40.01 | Shirik | ^wtfhax at 30MPH winds constant |
| 20:41.44 | Adys | Cide: if I overwrite __contains__ in a list subclass, does index() automatically benefit of that? |
| 20:41.55 | Cide | no idea |
| 20:41.59 | Kraps | nerdrage is delicious |
| 20:42.01 | Kraps | "If this shit goes live in a near future as 30% I'm going to fucking leave the game. If will be better wasting my money on Habbo or some crappy game. 12 euros for cloths and other crap... I bet it was Fucking Bobby Kotick that made this shit, I hope he dies with Hemorrhoids" |
| 20:42.28 | durcyn | Kraps: context? |
| 20:42.41 | ckknight | haha, Kraps |
| 20:42.42 | Kraps | durcyn: ICC buff |
| 20:42.47 | Kraps | its live |
| 20:42.58 | Kraps | at 5% now |
| 20:43.04 | durcyn | pretend i'm some kind of caveman |
| 20:43.08 | durcyn | what ICC buff |
| 20:43.17 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 20:43.21 | Cide | hi |
| 20:43.35 | Cide | ready to continue cap'n? |
| 20:44.03 | Shirik | yes, but first I must show you what I am reading right now |
| 20:44.08 | Shirik | it's on the wrapper for some chopsticks |
| 20:44.25 | Kraps | durcyn: a zone-wid raid buff to damage, healing and health |
| 20:44.43 | Shirik | Welcome to Chinese Restaurant. Please try your Nice Chinese Food with Chopsticks the traditional and typical of Chinese glorious history. and cultural |
| 20:44.43 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/icecrown-citadel-zone-buff-blue-posts |
| 20:45.20 | Shirik | now we may continue Cide |
| 20:45.51 | Cide | good |
| 20:45.54 | Cide | give me a min |
| 20:48.17 | DWSR | What's the new patch? |
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| 20:48.37 | Adys | What? |
| 20:51.24 | DWSR | Downloader just grabbed something. New Launcher tools, perhaps? |
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| 20:52.23 | Adys | ah |
| 20:52.24 | Adys | prolly |
| 20:55.08 | DWSR | Anyone here used LastPass? |
| 20:58.04 | Shirik | I have a friend who does |
| 20:58.07 | Shirik | I don't believe in it |
| 21:00.07 | zenzelezz | what does it/is it supposed to do? |
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| 21:04.01 | durcyn | it's the last password manager you'll ever use, according to its own marketspeak hyperbole |
| 21:04.32 | zenzelezz | that could be read as "it's awesome" or "it's awful" |
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| 21:08.20 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I choose the "it's awful" side |
| 21:08.33 | Shirik | They claim to solve an "extreme problem" of using the same password on every site |
| 21:09.02 | Shirik | instead, to break into those sites, you now only need to find out the lastpass password |
| 21:09.21 | Shirik | so it's not a solution, it's just changing the problem's location |
| 21:10.26 | Shirik | fact of the matter is if you would lose a password to a site, you would lose your lastpass password |
| 21:10.43 | Shirik | in fact, going for lastpass is a much more tantalizing target |
| 21:11.58 | Dagmar | Shirik is almost exactly right |
| 21:12.18 | Dagmar | Freaking get KeepPass and use it or any other password manager with an encrypted databsae |
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| 21:13.39 | Dagmar | The only thing they've got going for them at the moment is that they're an obscure target which probably isn't being targeted by keyloggers... yet |
| 21:13.48 | Dagmar | The moment that happens, their game is over. |
| 21:14.22 | durcyn | chrome on osx uses the system keychain, that's Good Enough For Me (tm) |
| 21:14.31 | Dagmar | it's good enough for most people |
| 21:14.49 | Shirik | I was actually having a discussion about this last night with someone |
| 21:14.59 | Shirik | the government theoretically knows a great deal about people |
| 21:15.03 | Dagmar | I only recommend KeePass because there's builds for Palm PDAs, Windows Mobile, and X86 |
| 21:15.08 | Shirik | The government could issue a cert to everyone |
| 21:15.19 | Shirik | It doesn't even cost them anything, it's a fricking number |
| 21:15.24 | Dagmar | Shirik: If they were sniffing Facebook's database, for sure |
| 21:15.27 | Shirik | Bam, no more need for passwords |
| 21:15.40 | durcyn | yeah, managing cert passphrase recovery wouldn't be a full time job. |
| 21:15.45 | Shirik | well sure |
| 21:16.01 | Shirik | but it's nothing more complex than, say, managing the DMV databases, for example |
| 21:16.04 | Shirik | or social security |
| 21:16.06 | Shirik | etc. |
| 21:16.18 | durcyn | you're talking about the largest, most inept bureaucracy ever invented by mankind |
| 21:16.30 | Dagmar | No more *privacy* either. |
| 21:16.58 | Dagmar | Managing oversight would be something best handled by a group of people with infinite time, that don't need to be paid, and can't be killed by conventional weapons tho'. |
| 21:17.08 | Shirik | like me? |
| 21:17.23 | Dagmar | no, like your bosses *think* you are |
| 21:17.28 | Dagmar | heh |
| 21:18.34 | Dagmar | I think that perhaps with the numnber of documented examples it's now safe to say that systems without oversight _will_ be abused, and most systems with oversight but minimal mechanisms for redress _will_ also be abused. |
| 21:18.53 | Dagmar | I'm keeping an eye on that school computer case up north. |
| 21:19.04 | Dagmar | SOmeone should be going to jail over that, even if it's just for a month. |
| 21:19.05 | zenzelezz | the webcam thing? |
| 21:19.12 | Dagmar | Oh yes. |
| 21:19.38 | Dagmar | I'm sure they'll try and gloss it over with "they had the best interests of hte children in mind", and that would be an outright lie. |
| 21:19.46 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 21:19.54 | Dagmar | They threw out a system for Orwellian monitoring with zero oversight, and it was WIDELY abused. |
| 21:20.17 | durcyn | intent doesn't matter, they surreptitiously observed the students inside their homes, game over for the school district. |
| 21:21.00 | zenzelezz | but he was clearly pushing dope to kids!!!1 |
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| 21:24.05 | Lopeppeppy | Those were some f'd up dreams. |
| 21:25.04 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 21:25.13 | Dagmar | Just on the basis that an ass't principal suspended a kid for "inappropriate behaviour" in his own home, should be proof enough that someone needs to go to jail for flagrantly violating someone's right to privacy |
| 21:25.57 | Dagmar | The people responsible for requesting/deploying that monitoring system and then not locking it down against abuse should be fined for negligence |
| 21:26.04 | Lunessa | "Q. The Hunter class has many odd and situational abilities such as Mongoose Bite and Aspect of the Beast - are there any plans for changes to these types of abilities? |
| 21:26.04 | Lunessa | A. Mongoose Bite is most likely a goner. Let us weep. We think Aspect of the Beast could have some cool uses for Beastmaster hunters. " Am I wrong to want to sing Hallelujah? |
| 21:26.13 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11522 << gah! |
| 21:26.23 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That's the axe with the red stuff around it, right? |
| 21:26.31 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 21:27.09 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: you needs a hug? |
| 21:27.18 | Dagmar | I use it occasionally just because without it the damn polarms require you call in your reservations THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE just to be able to hit someone |
| 21:28.19 | Kawne | whos shammy here? |
| 21:31.35 | Dagmar | Hunters will need *some* kind of "swing now" attack for melee tho |
| 21:31.58 | zenzelezz | Wingclip lulz |
| 21:32.00 | Dagmar | Otherwise they're as good as helpless in PvP once you close quarters |
| 21:32.12 | Dagmar | That won't go down well with anyone. |
| 21:32.38 | Dagmar | Seriously, the swing timer by itself on a polearm is freaking ludicrous |
| 21:33.15 | Dagmar | A rogue stoned out of his mind can hit you like three times before you'd even swing once. |
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| 21:34.46 | Lopeppeppy | heya, shirik. |
| 21:35.01 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, the dreams were weird, I was a mommy. Eeew. |
| 21:35.13 | zenzelezz | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 21:35.17 | zenzelezz | that is a bad dream |
| 21:35.30 | nevcairiel | Dreams usually reveal your deepest wishes |
| 21:36.32 | Dagmar | Okay. They go on to say they're thinking about making Counterattack a baseline ability |
| 21:36.37 | Dagmar | That could make up for it |
| 21:37.06 | Dagmar | I'm excruciatingly aware of the swing time on polearms because my ex wasn't the brightest bulb in a pinch |
| 21:37.22 | zenzelezz | you should be thankful |
| 21:37.22 | Dagmar | I'd be taking her twink through somewhere, she'd get aggro and run TO me... |
| 21:37.27 | zenzelezz | if she was, you might not be sitting her |
| 21:37.29 | zenzelezz | +e |
| 21:37.42 | Dagmar | ...only to die in the ludicrous time it takes to swing the damn polearm even once. |
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| 21:41.52 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, in this dream i wanted the kid to go away so i could have breakfast. :) |
| 21:42.05 | nevcairiel | thats a common reaction to kids |
| 21:43.04 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 21:43.07 | Arrowmaster | haha thats one hell of a glitch, good thing its already rated M http://kotaku.com/5483372/nsfw-heavy-rain-glitch-brings-playable-accidental-nudity |
| 21:43.16 | Lopeppeppy | but now i crave pancakes and can't make them |
| 21:44.46 | Cide | I had pancakes today |
| 21:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | brat |
| 21:46.00 | Fisker | i had you Cide |
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| 21:46.18 | Shadowed | Pancakes are evil |
| 21:46.19 | Shadowed | sorry |
| 21:46.31 | Shadowed | (not really) |
| 21:47.09 | olafski | not a bad model except for the face there |
| 21:47.19 | Lopeppeppy | want pancakes. *sigh* |
| 21:47.35 | zenzelezz | come here and teach me how to make them |
| 21:47.57 | olafski | you can't make pancakes? :o |
| 21:48.01 | olafski | a vital skill! |
| 21:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | any day. |
| 21:48.23 | zenzelezz | you'd be surprised how little food I know how to make |
| 21:49.33 | olafski | not interested in learning it either? |
| 21:49.38 | olafski | cooking is fun |
| 21:49.43 | olafski | and pancakes rock :D |
| 21:50.10 | zenzelezz | "Years after you thought it was all over, Groklaw is reporting that Darl McBride (ex-CEO of SCO) has formed a new company that is buying SCO's mobile business for peanuts but he's also going to get 'certain Intellectual Property' with the deal." -- as if we didn't suffer enough already! |
| 21:52.55 | Dagmar | Looks like it's time to buy some more bullets then. |
| 21:53.15 | Dagmar | Someone's going to have to just put McBride out of his misery. |
| 21:54.08 | Dagmar | It's the merciful thing to do, since apparently professional therapy and having your ass handed to you repeatedly over the course of ten years don't seem to be having an effec.t |
| 21:56.05 | Arrowmaster | hes going to buy it for less than a nice car |
| 21:56.50 | Arrowmaster | some other company should make a much larger offer and when its rejected make a filing trying to block the sale to darl since its rigged |
| 21:57.24 | Shirik | who do you think you are |
| 21:57.24 | Dagmar | I'm thinking perhaps the thing to do at this point is to have him declared a pernicious litigator of some sort |
| 21:57.25 | Shirik | mr. big stuff |
| 21:58.29 | Dagmar | The only thing he's going to be able to do with that is draw press attention to his new company, which could very easily be construed as bad faith litigation with an eye towards artificially inflating the value of his new company. |
| 21:58.51 | Dagmar | Probably best for everyone involved if someone just puts him down. |
| 21:58.53 | Arrowmaster | how about 'capitalist pig dog' and forever known to be only interested in his own wealth and willing to fuck over the rest of society for it |
| 21:59.30 | Dagmar | Actually, maybe if we just lock him up for that... |
| 21:59.38 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Wait, you just described me. |
| 21:59.53 | Kraps | http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth-20100301.html Chilean Quake May Have Shortened Earth Days |
| 21:59.57 | Kraps | wuuuuuut |
| 21:59.58 | Dagmar | Literally the only purpose the last five years of SCO suits served was to artificially inflate the price of SCO stock |
| 22:00.23 | olafski | watching my gf do putricide.. looks like a fun encounter |
| 22:00.24 | Dagmar | Kraps: Microseconds. Nothing to worry about going out to buy new clocks over. |
| 22:00.31 | Dagmar | ...but it _was_ an 8.8. |
| 22:00.50 | Shirik | dude |
| 22:00.51 | Dagmar | If we have another massive quake like that somewhere in the next month, we'll start seeing an uptick in the number of doomsayers. |
| 22:00.55 | Shirik | I might need a new clock |
| 22:01.04 | Shirik | don't you all own atomic clocks at home? |
| 22:01.09 | Dagmar | I do. |
| 22:01.11 | Shirik | they gonna get totally out of sync |
| 22:01.14 | Shirik | big deal!~ |
| 22:01.27 | zenzelezz | http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:SCO - the 5-year graph is interesting |
| 22:01.35 | Dagmar | The local airport f**king up the retransmission of the WWIV signal is a bigger threat by far. |
| 22:01.47 | Dagmar | Seeing my atomic-synched wall clock jump by HOURS != funny |
| 22:02.40 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:03.47 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: The word I'd use is "damning" when you use a view that overlays press announcements against the data |
| 22:04.53 | Kraps | whoa patch? |
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| 22:05.18 | Dagmar | ~wowalert |
| 22:05.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:05.42 | zenzelezz | oh yeah, wrong company... I suck at stock market searching |
| 22:06.10 | Kraps | Dagmar: i got nothin |
| 22:06.27 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: its http://www.google.com/finance?q=SCOXQ |
| 22:06.57 | zenzelezz | I should stick to Google Trends, at least I can get fun stuff right there =D |
| 22:07.10 | Dagmar | Kraps: The reason we've not seen a lot of footage of destruction in Chile is because basically, it got tore up so bad you can't even drive a hummer into the heart of it |
| 22:10.10 | Adys | Cide |
| 22:10.12 | Adys | Shirik |
| 22:10.14 | Cide | hi |
| 22:10.28 | Adys | I just added the very last structure to my wdbc parser |
| 22:10.35 | Adys | I officially support every single wdb and dbc ingame |
| 22:10.51 | Adys | 5800 lines of pure structure code |
| 22:11.20 | Cide | nice |
| 22:11.27 | Cide | only |
| 22:11.28 | Cide | why? |
| 22:11.36 | Adys | OCD |
| 22:11.50 | Adys | some people do achievements |
| 22:11.53 | Adys | i do structures. |
| 22:12.05 | zenzelezz | restructures Adys |
| 22:12.28 | Adys | also Cide I made some pretty large updates to the structure engine, I moved off a bunch of wow-specific field to their own module and so on |
| 22:12.37 | Adys | if you want the updated version for your project |
| 22:12.46 | Adys | a friend's using them for his sc2replay parser |
| 22:12.53 | alestane | So what do you accomplish by parsing the cache and database files? |
| 22:13.22 | zenzelezz | this is the information age, man! |
| 22:13.24 | Adys | im actually able to put out a database with pretty solid values |
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| 22:13.50 | Adys | i can also do some pretty crazy shit, completely abstracting the game engine |
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| 22:14.55 | Adys | in a bit less than 300 lines of code I can get a complete 2d map engine containing all the shit like graveyards, flight paths, minimaps, maps, zone names, so on |
| 22:15.06 | Adys | thats an example between others |
| 22:16.18 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: The dreams, they have come for you too now? |
| 22:16.20 | nicoli_s | adys: which friend is doing a sc2replay parser? |
| 22:16.26 | Adys | dcramer |
| 22:16.32 | nicoli_s | heh, figured :P |
| 22:16.35 | Adys | ofc |
| 22:17.01 | nicoli_s | knew you had to get yer django fever from someone |
| 22:17.08 | Adys | I totally didnt |
| 22:17.23 | Adys | I had started the db under django ages ago |
| 22:17.29 | Adys | which is how I met him again |
| 22:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | seriously, alestane |
| 22:17.40 | Adys | for ages i saw him in #django "hey I know that name" |
| 22:17.43 | Shirik | Adys |
| 22:17.45 | Shirik | wat u wan |
| 22:17.50 | Adys | I want you |
| 22:17.52 | Adys | FOR THE HORDE |
| 22:18.29 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: They have been hunting me for almost a week now. When I try to sleep, they circle, like sharks. |
| 22:18.33 | Adys | however, if that wasn't an intended or unintended typo, I'm wanning quite fine thank you, I'll switch back to lan next week |
| 22:18.35 | zenzelezz | I'm a bit disappointed that we see so few "For the Horse!" typos |
| 22:19.48 | Lunessa | wants a brownie, ice cream and a nap. |
| 22:20.20 | Lopeppeppy | i think the lack of protein makes me weak in their eyes, but i lack the skill to cook eggs with one hand |
| 22:20.40 | Lopeppeppy | i have ice cream and sleepions |
| 22:21.04 | zenzelezz | you may be really hot peppy, but you still can't cook eggs in your hands |
| 22:21.30 | Lopeppeppy | and i can't find the poacher. |
| 22:21.40 | alestane | I showed my class this yesterday to explain how I spent the weekend: http://machall.com/view.php?date=2002-02-11 |
| 22:22.14 | Lopeppeppy | I really need someone to fetch me a steak and make me eat it |
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| 22:23.25 | Adys | Cide: Now working on opcode structures |
| 22:23.37 | Adys | only something like 400 left to do. |
| 22:26.27 | Shirik | Kraps: Any opinion on flagged revisions? |
| 22:26.47 | Kraps | wuts that? |
| 22:26.59 | Shirik | ! |
| 22:27.16 | Kraps | the name rings a bell |
| 22:27.26 | Shirik | http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=ShiriksTestPage&action=history |
| 22:27.32 | Kraps | its not loud enough though |
| 22:28.36 | Kraps | like putting an approval stamp on revisions? |
| 22:28.39 | Shirik | It's a protection mode that allows people to make edits to a page, but they won't show up |
| 22:28.42 | Shirik | until someone reviews it |
| 22:28.50 | Shirik | (they won't show up by default, that is) |
| 22:28.55 | Shirik | so it's like a lesser form of semi protection |
| 22:29.11 | Shirik | For example, I think if you go to http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=ShiriksTestPage&oldid=12391 |
| 22:29.18 | Shirik | You won't see the "I am a vandalizor!" |
| 22:29.23 | Shirik | I'm not sure how old edits work actually |
| 22:29.24 | Shirik | you might see it |
| 22:29.31 | Kraps | i see it |
| 22:29.36 | Shirik | ok well make an edit |
| 22:29.42 | Kraps | i have rollback i think |
| 22:30.15 | Shirik | what's your username? |
| 22:30.27 | Shirik | and anyone can see it, it's just a matter of whether or not it's shown by default |
| 22:30.45 | Kraps | default? |
| 22:30.59 | Kraps | The draft is shown below. 1 change is unreviewed. |
| 22:31.02 | Shirik | ok so like you just made a change |
| 22:31.04 | Shirik | but I don't see it |
| 22:31.12 | Kraps | k |
| 22:31.16 | Shirik | I only see it in the history |
| 22:31.28 | Shirik | out of curiosity, do you see it? |
| 22:31.37 | Kawne | UH UH I HAVE A CHALLENGE for you ^_^ lock or shammy? pvp! |
| 22:31.45 | Kraps | yes |
| 22:31.47 | Shirik | oh, click the "View page" button in the top right |
| 22:31.57 | Shirik | that will show you what everyone else sees |
| 22:32.00 | Kraps | ah now i dont |
| 22:32.13 | Shirik | so there's like two copies |
| 22:32.16 | Shirik | the "stable" one and the "draft" one |
| 22:32.19 | Kraps | right |
| 22:32.22 | Shirik | the stable one is shown by default |
| 22:33.07 | Kraps | who can review and check draft revisions? |
| 22:33.12 | Shirik | There's a "reviewer" right |
| 22:33.20 | Shirik | I just tried to give it to you but I can't :( |
| 22:33.25 | Shirik | but you can request admin |
| 22:33.28 | Shirik | everyone gets admin there |
| 22:33.40 | Shirik | (admin is implicit reviewer) |
| 22:33.50 | Shirik | http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Adminship_requests |
| 22:35.39 | A-KO | http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/sns-ap-us-urine-electrocution,0,7584159.story < damn, you know you're intended to die when that happens |
| 22:36.27 | Adys | nevcairiel: btw, I told you about the structure engine? |
| 22:36.42 | Adys | I'm looking for people willing to test it in 3rd party apps |
| 22:38.41 | Lunessa | A-KO: Ouch? |
| 22:39.45 | DWSR | Kawn: Lock |
| 22:39.47 | DWSR | UA lock |
| 22:39.57 | zenzelezz | NO U a lock |
| 22:40.16 | Adys | Did you know |
| 22:40.47 | Adys | You can, without ever logging in, draw some really crazy shit on a map |
| 22:41.20 | Adys | like the exact area points which will trigger .. I dunno, the goblin event in BWL |
| 22:42.08 | alestane | A-KO: Yeah, that's definitely out of left field. |
| 22:45.04 | Kraps | Shirik: i see :) |
| 22:46.01 | Kraps | this will apply to protected pages or will there be a new level of protection? |
| 22:46.09 | Shirik | this is like a new level of protection |
| 22:46.25 | Shirik | Note the history: |
| 22:46.26 | Shirik | 06:06, 11 January 2010 Shirik (Talk | contribs | block) m (21 bytes) (Configured stable versioning for ShiriksTestPage: because I said so [Precedence: None, Default: Stable]) (undo) [autoconfirmed] |
| 22:48.11 | Kraps | what am i looking at? ;/ |
| 22:48.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:48.17 | kd3 | wah, crazy. thunderstorming overnight... stopping around 5-6ish? snow started around 9-10am... snowed until 2. stopped, got warm and melted everything, 4ish, started snowing again |
| 22:48.21 | Shirik | that's in the history |
| 22:48.24 | kd3 | everything's going to freeze |
| 22:48.26 | Shirik | just like protection would show up |
| 22:48.35 | kd3 | atlanta's going to run out of milk bread and beer like usual |
| 22:48.38 | kd3 | panics |
| 22:48.52 | Shirik | Just like: 20:03, 23 February 2010 Zscout370 (talk | contribs) m (13,245 bytes) (Changed protection level of User:Shirik: Excessive vandalism: user request for timer ([edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 07:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expires 07:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)))) (undo) |
| 22:49.02 | Shirik | same kind of thing |
| 22:49.09 | Kraps | mmmm |
| 22:49.11 | Kraps | cool |
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| 22:49.49 | kd3 | oh, wait. enwiki finally rolled out stable/patrolled revisions? |
| 22:49.55 | Shirik | no |
| 22:50.01 | Shirik | they have it on the test wiki |
| 22:50.31 | Shirik | there's a poll ongoing to just adopt the german implementation, but I oppose it, along with a lot of others, because it's just going to cause problems |
| 22:50.38 | Shirik | the one on the test wiki is a lot better |
| 22:51.29 | Shirik | honestly, kd3, it's still going to be forever |
| 22:51.59 | Shirik | even Jimbo doesn't get what the problem is, but the devs have said (1) they have no idea how long it will take and (2) they don't want to set any deadlines |
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| 22:52.15 | Shirik | aka "Soon" |
| 22:53.03 | Kraps | but jimbo is satan... |
| 22:56.27 | Shirik | he's not satan :( |
| 22:56.48 | Kraps | i kid :) |
| 22:57.35 | Kraps | there are 'pedians who think that way |
| 22:58.35 | DWSR | You think that way |
| 22:58.47 | durcyn | don't have to be malicious to be evil |
| 22:59.29 | durcyn | and jimbo's history of treating the wikimedia foundation like his personal piggy bank is pretty evil if you ask me |
| 22:59.56 | Kraps | meh |
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| 23:02.34 | Shirik | personal piggy bank? |
| 23:03.12 | durcyn | how else do you explain the private jet? |
| 23:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: nao |
| 23:07.09 | kd3 | er, wasn't that paid for from wikia's vc money? |
| 23:09.46 | nicoli_s | curse has vc money, wheres my goddamn jet |
| 23:10.42 | Adys | curse has vc money? where is MY goddamn jet |
| 23:11.01 | nicoli_s | you can get yer jet from mlg's vc money |
| 23:11.22 | Adys | yes, but by the time they pay for it, everyone will have their own spacecraft |
| 23:11.27 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 23:15.16 | Torhal | Shirik: Gentoo is making me pull on Fisker's rage face. |
| 23:15.18 | Torhal | err:wincodecs:JpegDecoder_CreateInstance Trying to load JPEG picture, but JPEG supported not compiled in. |
| 23:15.50 | Torhal | I added "jpeg" to wine's use flags, it isn't recognizing it. It does recognize PNG, though, with emerge --info wine |
| 23:15.52 | kd3 | wahaha... isn't there a bug report on that? |
| 23:16.01 | kd3 | tabs open the wiki |
| 23:16.56 | kd3 | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20585 |
| 23:18.26 | Torhal | kd3: My issue is that I'm telling Wine that I WANT jpeg support and it's completely ignoring me. |
| 23:18.41 | Arrowmaster | "This is going to look great hanging next to my restraining order for Leonard Nimoy." |
| 23:18.56 | Torhal | USE="X alsa cups dbus fontconfig gecko gnutls (multilib) ncurses opengl oss perl png ssl threads truetype (-capi) -custom-cflags (-esd) (-gphoto2) -gsm (-hal) -jack (-jpeg) -lcms -ldap (-mp3) -nas -openal -samba (-scanner) -test -win64 -xcomposite -xinerama -xml" |
| 23:19.01 | Arrowmaster | laughed so hard my mom came in and told me i had to rewind and show her |
| 23:19.04 | Torhal | Notice (-jpeg) |
| 23:26.27 | Adys | nicoli_s, Cide, nevcairiel - in case you're interested: http://addsanddishes.blogspot.com/2010/03/after-bumpy-road-lots-of-coding_02.html |
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| 23:31.53 | Pneumatus | what happened to the skip the lorebore in Culling of Strat? :< |
| 23:32.56 | kd3 | Pneumatus, it's in the patch on the ptr |
| 23:33.01 | kd3 | or it should be |
| 23:33.06 | alestane | It's (1) still on the PTR, and (2) I think it requires that everyone there have done it already. |
| 23:33.14 | Pneumatus | i thought it was supposed to have made it to live :< |
| 23:33.29 | kd3 | they said "a future patch". said patch is 3.3.3 |
| 23:37.56 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus apparently got the patch early, or something |
| 23:40.01 | A-KO | the download today was not the patch |
| 23:40.13 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.14 | Gnarfoz | who'd have thought? |
| 23:40.32 | Gnarfoz | oh right, morons would've :p |
| 23:40.43 | Torhal | I can't fucking play because Wine doesn't have jpeg support compiled in, I can't figure out why it won't let me compile it in, and the launcher requires it. |
| 23:40.53 | Torhal | Bleargh. |
| 23:40.56 | kd3 | so don't run the launcher? run wow |
| 23:41.10 | Torhal | It needs the launcher to patch :P |
| 23:41.13 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 23:41.15 | durcyn | does not. |
| 23:41.15 | Gnarfoz | it never did |
| 23:41.17 | foxlit | or compiler jpeg support into wine |
| 23:41.19 | foxlit | np! |
| 23:41.27 | Gnarfoz | or just use a binary distribution lololol |
| 23:41.30 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:41.40 | durcyn | euse +E jpeg ; emerge wine |
| 23:41.41 | Torhal | :P |
| 23:41.59 | durcyn | what distribution is this, Torhal |
| 23:42.13 | Torhal | Gentoo. |
| 23:42.18 | durcyn | ... |
| 23:43.04 | Torhal | It seems jpeg is masked for wine...it shows as (-jpeg) even when I explicitly place it in the package.use |
| 23:43.48 | Gnarfoz | did you read that bug report kd3 linked?? |
| 23:44.26 | Torhal | Meh. I'm in. Why the hell does it launch the launcher after "updating" when it isn't necessary? |
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| 23:44.49 | Shirik | I didn't think you could mask USE flags |
| 23:45.04 | durcyn | the launcher is the default. you can disable it. |
| 23:45.18 | durcyn | and it's there to facilitate multiple serialized patches |
| 23:45.19 | kd3 | echo SET showToolsUI "0" >> ~/wow/WTF/Config.wtf |
| 23:45.36 | Gnarfoz | simply don't run launcher.exe, ever |
| 23:45.38 | Gnarfoz | problem solved |
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| 23:46.20 | durcyn | it's useful for bringing a fresh install up to date, in that the downloader and patcher are run unattended |
| 23:46.37 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* just get the nearest "fat" patch |
| 23:48.43 | Gnarfoz | and it was obviously a useless "news" (read: ad) platform at first, plus the "assurance" that the launcher would prevent any malicious software to modify wow.exe... or something! (even more marketing talk) |
| 23:56.10 | jnwhiteh | it works just fine |
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| 23:56.13 | jnwhiteh | i use it to patch |
| 23:56.15 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 23:57.23 | kd3 | whuh? a patch to portal? |
| 23:57.25 | kd3 | fires up steam |
| 23:58.03 | durcyn | kd3: teaser for some undetermined new game |
| 23:58.14 | durcyn | portal 2, hl2ep3, hl3, WHO CAN SAY? |
