| 00:00.09 | DWSR | hrm, ok |
| 00:00.22 | DWSR | so now the petbar has been moved by kgpanels (which is to be expected), and all of the buttons are back in the frame. |
| 00:00.37 | DWSR | I have my kgpanels moving BT4PetBar based on the visibility of some other panels. |
| 00:01.20 | DWSR | Is there a better way to move the bar to stop that from happening? |
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| 00:03.14 | Amarande | oy, I think I have a distinct case of OPTS again :( |
| 00:04.36 | DWSR | nevcairiel ^^ |
| 00:04.39 | Amarande | my package was somewhere between kentucky and connecticut a couple of hours ago |
| 00:04.45 | Amarande | it is still somewhere between kentucky and connecticut |
| 00:04.47 | Amarande | TELL ME MORE |
| 00:04.54 | Amarande | yup, definitely obsessive package tracking syndrome :| |
| 00:05.14 | nevcairiel | DWSR: just moving the bar container will work, they are not anchored to anything special anymore, iirc |
| 00:05.29 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Ok, well that would seem to be what's causing the bar fragmentation. |
| 00:06.04 | DWSR | It also seems to break the interactivity of the frame |
| 00:06.32 | DWSR | (I get no Lua errors, btw). |
| 00:07.09 | nevcairiel | do you do plain setpoint, or clear the points before too? |
| 00:07.18 | DWSR | plain setpoint. |
| 00:07.36 | nevcairiel | i suggest using the bars ClearSetPoint API, its a simple wrapper i add to all frames that does ClearAllPoints first |
| 00:07.50 | DWSR | Same syntax as setpoint? |
| 00:07.53 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 00:07.59 | DWSR | alright |
| 00:08.18 | DWSR | yeah, I recently figured out how to make kgpanels make awesome. |
| 00:08.34 | DWSR | Like the panel behind my minimap "slides down" and shows an extra action bar when clicked. |
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| 00:19.21 | DWSR | ~api ClearAllPoints |
| 00:19.21 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ClearAllPoints |
| 00:19.28 | DWSR | !api ClearAllPoints |
| 00:19.31 | lua_bot | Region:ClearAllPoints: Removes all anchor points from the region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/ClearAllPoints) |
| 00:29.33 | Amarande | wtf, now I'm getting scam email for Aion |
| 00:29.37 | Amarande | I don't even have an Aion account |
| 00:30.10 | lebqzz | got a question |
| 00:30.13 | lebqzz | if(val >= 1e4) then |
| 00:30.26 | lebqzz | this is found in a lua script.. |
| 00:30.27 | Amarande | "HAI PLS GIVE US THE DETAILS OF UR NON EXISTENT AION ACCOUNT SO WE CAN STEAL IT" ... um, fail. |
| 00:30.56 | lebqzz | if the hp is over 9999 then it will trunk it with 10k2 for 10200 |
| 00:31.18 | lebqzz | Amarande i got 4 wow accounts.. |
| 00:31.38 | airtonix | more fail |
| 00:31.42 | lebqzz | but the mail thats getting the spam mails with wow hacking blah blah. doesnt have a wow account registred to it ;P |
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| 00:32.58 | airtonix | howto prevent openoffice from auto restarting after i kill it by pid ? |
| 00:33.42 | Bruners | why would it auto start? |
| 00:33.54 | airtonix | because its in headless mode |
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| 00:34.42 | airtonix | http://pastebin.com/3RZFWh9Y |
| 00:34.57 | airtonix | killit by pid and roughly 20-30sec later it relaunches |
| 00:35.12 | airtonix | means i cant update it |
| 00:36.11 | Arrowmaster | why cant you just close it normally? |
| 00:36.27 | airtonix | its not even running though... those are background processes |
| 00:37.01 | Ginji | kill -9 |
| 00:37.20 | airtonix | already tried that |
| 00:37.31 | Arrowmaster | what is /bin/sh /usr/share/docvert/core/config/unix-specific/openoffice.org-server.sh |
| 00:37.41 | Ginji | And there isn't some other process that re-launches it then? |
| 00:38.25 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 00:38.32 | foxlit | Ginji: there must be, or it'd be magic. |
| 00:39.10 | lebqzz | !api gsub |
| 00:39.14 | lua_bot | gsub: Returns a string in which occurrences of a pattern are replaced (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/gsub) |
| 00:40.07 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: btw try using ps -ef instead of ps aux, that way you get ppid too |
| 00:41.02 | Arrowmaster | but im going to put the blame of docvert |
| 00:41.17 | Arrowmaster | on docvert, but i have no clue how to stop it |
| 00:41.21 | airtonix | i hate openoffice now |
| 00:41.44 | lebqzz | hehe |
| 00:41.57 | Arrowmaster | its not openoffice its docvert, i have openoffice installed but its never running unless i open it |
| 00:42.17 | lebqzz | ok -> return ("%.1f"):format(val / 1e6):gsub('%.', 'm') |
| 00:42.27 | lebqzz | i just want it to return 13m |
| 00:42.45 | lebqzz | not 13m2 if the "unit" has 13m 200k hp aswell |
| 00:43.06 | Arrowmaster | why would it return 13m2 |
| 00:43.17 | lebqzz | dont ask me.. its oUF |
| 00:43.46 | lebqzz | that replaces rhonings hp 13900000 into 13m9 |
| 00:43.59 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, ok using ps -ef : http://pastebin.com/CjZ3Q09u |
| 00:45.10 | Arrowmaster | you should look into what docvert is probably and why its being started |
| 00:45.12 | airtonix | ffs, had to killall soffice.bi,....FFUUUUU its still eruinning!!LHJFLSKHJSLDKFJ |
| 00:45.19 | airtonix | uninstallign openoffice |
| 00:45.22 | airtonix | failsoft |
| 00:45.24 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 00:45.35 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would you think killall soffice.bin would do anything? |
| 00:45.49 | Arrowmaster | you need the kill the parent program or its just going to restart it |
| 00:46.06 | Bruners | have you tried to log out to console/root and do the update? |
| 00:46.07 | airtonix | so you think is should : sudo kill 25916 |
| 00:46.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:46.31 | Arrowmaster | or figure out why that is even running |
| 00:46.57 | Arrowmaster | aptitude why docvert |
| 00:47.37 | airtonix | i docvert-openoffice.org Depends docvert |
| 00:47.42 | Thunder_Child | oh lord http://img687.yfrog.com/i/b29.mp4/ |
| 00:48.11 | Arrowmaster | aptitude why docvert-openoffice.org |
| 00:48.41 | airtonix | i docvert-openoffice.org Depends docvert |
| 00:48.42 | airtonix | i A docvert Recommends docvert-openoffice.org |
| 00:49.20 | p3lim | Are there any specific events that run when equipment is repaired? |
| 00:49.51 | Arrowmaster | you could just remove docvert-openoffice.org, or stop using a retarded distro like ubuntu that installs crap you never asked for and have no clue what it does |
| 00:49.52 | Adys | Anyone who has multiple bnet accounts on live? |
| 00:49.56 | NeoTron | ] airtonix considered checking pstree -p? |
| 00:50.16 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: ppid was 1 |
| 00:50.52 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, might be time to |
| 00:51.03 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: killing it should do the trick! |
| 00:51.13 | NeoTron | that just means it's in /etc/inittab |
| 00:51.24 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 00:51.27 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: what distro should he install ? |
| 00:52.19 | NeoTron | speaking of Linux - I had to install Windows on my 5 yo laptop (Dell Latitude D600 with a radeon 9000 mobility gfx) because all linux distros I tried were unusably slow |
| 00:52.48 | NeoTron | first time I've installed Windows XP to make a computer actually usable, vs so slow you want to throw it in the wall after 5 minutes |
| 00:54.19 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: my guess would be gfx driver issues |
| 00:54.20 | Bruners | i never used windows on this netbook so i have no idea if it's slow or not |
| 00:54.46 | Ginji | I guess Mesk will do for now as a media-player |
| 00:55.06 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: what distro where you using? did it have a bunch of fancy desktop effects? |
| 00:55.21 | Arrowmaster | wtf is Mesk? |
| 00:55.34 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 00:55.35 | airtonix | ideally i'd like one where they dont remove features |
| 00:55.55 | Bruners | Cairenn: who wins, and what |
| 00:56.07 | Cairenn | Canada vs Russia, hockey |
| 00:56.10 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: what distro removes features |
| 00:56.36 | Cairenn | and no, I'm not cheering for Russia |
| 00:56.40 | Bruners | :D |
| 00:56.43 | alestane | Since you're saying "GOAL!" and not "bah", I'm presuming it was Canada's goal. Who's up? |
| 00:56.49 | Thunder_Child | lies Cairenn, lies |
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| 00:57.09 | Cairenn | Canada 2-0 atm |
| 00:57.12 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 00:57.15 | Cairenn | 3-0 |
| 00:57.31 | alestane | HOLY *&^% that was fast. |
| 00:57.40 | Bruners | why do they bother playing when they know sweden is better |
| 00:57.41 | alestane | Adrenaline goals ftw. |
| 00:58.30 | Cairenn | GO CANADA GO! |
| 00:59.09 | alestane | Cairenn's psyched. |
| 00:59.17 | Cairenn | Rawr! |
| 00:59.21 | alestane | Is this the quarter-final? |
| 00:59.26 | Cairenn | yar |
| 00:59.35 | alestane | THese are straight elimination, right? |
| 00:59.38 | Cairenn | yes |
| 00:59.47 | Cairenn | one of the two teams goes home tonight |
| 00:59.52 | alestane | One game, or two out of three? |
| 01:00.01 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 01:00.01 | harl|VD | rawr?! |
| 01:00.08 | alestane | (I'm sure they don't have time for more than that.) |
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| 01:00.39 | alestane | So, single-match, single-elimination. |
| 01:00.46 | Cairenn | nods |
| 01:01.05 | Sargeras | Dolby is a tight virgin flower |
| 01:01.11 | Sargeras | "Ok but I have a steel chastity belt on." |
| 01:01.11 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:01.19 | Cairenn | bah |
| 01:01.22 | alestane | Full overtime, or NHL league-style (5-min SD to shootout)? |
| 01:01.22 | Sargeras | ^-- lol |
| 01:01.32 | alestane | 3-1, Cairenn? |
| 01:01.35 | Cairenn | probably NHL style |
| 01:01.36 | Cairenn | yeah |
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| 01:01.46 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 01:01.56 | Cairenn | probably only the final game will be full overtime |
| 01:02.08 | Adys | kd3, ping |
| 01:02.11 | Cairenn | snuggles Sargeras |
| 01:02.26 | alestane | It would be kind of lame to decide the Olympic gold on a shootout, yeah. |
| 01:02.38 | Adys | actually |
| 01:02.46 | Adys | anyone has a gluexml diff for the last 2 ptr builds? |
| 01:02.48 | Cairenn | it would be VERY EXCEPTIONALLY lame to decide gold on shootout |
| 01:03.15 | Cairenn | lame enough deciding the rest of them on shootout (if they go to it) |
| 01:03.31 | Adys | also jnwhiteh, ping on unrelated subject |
| 01:04.06 | bleeter | here's one for Cairenn and Dolby http://www.norcalis.com/ |
| 01:04.27 | bleeter | and adys... and ... wel.. all of you tbh |
| 01:04.36 | Adys | didnt you already link that? |
| 01:04.49 | bleeter | mmm not recently |
| 01:04.53 | Adys | someone did i think |
| 01:04.57 | bleeter | blames Fisker |
| 01:04.59 | Adys | this is the kinda shit you dont forget |
| 01:06.18 | Thunder_Child | major fail |
| 01:07.16 | MentalPower | bleeter: WTF... |
| 01:07.51 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:07.52 | Dolby | omg bleeter |
| 01:08.24 | bleeter | you can all thank me later |
| 01:09.05 | Dolby | we need a Cairenn walk out video on wowi |
| 01:09.18 | bleeter | qft |
| 01:10.18 | Bruners | bleeter: what is that link ? |
| 01:10.41 | Dolby | its his design company |
| 01:10.46 | bleeter | Bruners: it's the perfect place to send your difficult web clients |
| 01:11.05 | bleeter | Dolby: no u |
| 01:11.22 | Bruners | i just saw some water and tons of flash that got blocked |
| 01:12.01 | Dolby | it has ducks so its cool |
| 01:12.25 | Thunder_Child | Dolby: she would never go for it |
| 01:12.36 | alestane | Wow, could that guy be any more wooden? |
| 01:12.46 | Dolby | gotta get her really drunk at blizzcon, we might have a chance then |
| 01:12.48 | Thunder_Child | what you need to do is just do some generic recording at the next blizzcon with that camera of yours |
| 01:12.52 | alestane | Thunder_Child: He knows, trust me. |
| 01:13.11 | Thunder_Child | alestane: see above |
| 01:13.31 | alestane | Iriel is the only one who's really mastered getting good shots of Cairenn, mostly because he "shoots from the hip." |
| 01:13.35 | Dolby | I like to have pipe dreams |
| 01:13.56 | Thunder_Child | you can not 'shoot from the hop' with that bigg ass camera of his |
| 01:14.00 | Shirik | goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal |
| 01:14.03 | Thunder_Child | hip* |
| 01:14.21 | Bruners | Shirik: did russia score? |
| 01:14.32 | Shirik | score what? |
| 01:14.36 | Shirik | what are we talking about? |
| 01:14.37 | foxlit | once. |
| 01:14.45 | foxlit | 1 - 4 atm |
| 01:14.48 | Cairenn | no, they didn't, we're on first intermission |
| 01:14.54 | alestane | Thunder_Child: Not literally, but you can hit the shutter without lifting the camera to your eye. |
| 01:14.56 | Shirik | my comment was @ (20:07:41) (@Cairenn) GOAL! |
| 01:15.05 | Shirik | I have no idea what she was talking about |
| 01:15.22 | Thunder_Child | alestane: what shutter? i am talking bout the video camera |
| 01:15.24 | bleeter | Shirik: http://www.norcalis.com/ |
| 01:15.26 | Cairenn | Canada vs Russia hockey, what else |
| 01:15.32 | Thunder_Child | i dont think it takes stills |
| 01:15.35 | Shirik | die bleeter |
| 01:15.46 | alestane | The camera I remember was a DSLR. |
| 01:15.54 | bleeter | gotta say the other sites those guys do are almost more win |
| 01:16.00 | bleeter | i know that's hard to do, but it's true |
| 01:16.04 | Thunder_Child | 2 years ago he brought a vid camera |
| 01:16.14 | Cairenn | that's, um, yeah, special |
| 01:16.30 | Cairenn | (finally got to watch the link, too busy watching the game) |
| 01:16.35 | Thunder_Child | alestane: see in Cairenn's hand http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/Friday/Misc/IMG_5743.jpg.html ? |
| 01:17.24 | Cairenn | Dolby always brings his video equipment |
| 01:17.33 | Dolby | aye i have a z7u, I contract and do video for ZAM at game conferences |
| 01:17.51 | Thunder_Child | alestane must have missed it then |
| 01:18.05 | Dolby | thats my old fx1 |
| 01:18.10 | alestane | Ah, you're talking about a camera of Dolby's? (That's me behind him, BTW, and I think that's Tom Thompson above Cairenn.) |
| 01:18.19 | alestane | I was referring to Iriel's gear. |
| 01:18.25 | Cairenn | occasionally you can get him to leave it in his room, but yeah, that's what he always brings |
| 01:18.42 | Cairenn | alestane: nope |
| 01:18.42 | Thunder_Child | ummm...iriel wasnt in this conversation |
| 01:18.48 | Thunder_Child | unless i missed something |
| 01:18.52 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: he was |
| 01:18.53 | DWSR | Cairenn |
| 01:18.55 | DWSR | What's the score"? |
| 01:19.06 | Cairenn | (2010-02-24 20:13:29) alestane: Iriel is the only one who's really mastered getting good shots of Cairenn, mostly because he "shoots from the hip." |
| 01:19.09 | Cairenn | DWSR: 4-1 |
| 01:19.13 | DWSR | BBBBBBBBOOOOONNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 01:19.18 | alestane | Cairenn: That face is a bit blurry. |
| 01:19.27 | Cairenn | it's still not him |
| 01:19.31 | Cairenn | blurry or not :p |
| 01:19.31 | DWSR | Cairenn: "shoots from the hip" |
| 01:19.42 | Thunder_Child | oh...i missed that |
| 01:20.38 | alestane | I won't argue that it must be him, but I don't remember who else was with us there and who it might be. |
| 01:20.48 | foxlit | sighs. |
| 01:20.59 | foxlit | I need more storage capacity on my iPod :( |
| 01:21.11 | foxlit | Can't fit all of the Doctor Who episodes on it :) |
| 01:21.22 | Cairenn | random_person_01 |
| 01:21.52 | Thunder_Child | here is a better shot alestane http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/Friday/Misc/IMG_5753.jpg.html |
| 01:21.52 | bleeter | http://www.ipadcolo.net/ |
| 01:21.52 | Dolby | man i look hard at work in that picture |
| 01:22.09 | Cairenn | you do! |
| 01:22.13 | Thunder_Child | wel all know Dolby was talking to his hoochie mama in that pic |
| 01:22.23 | Cairenn | no he wasn't! |
| 01:22.27 | Cairenn | I'm not on the phone |
| 01:22.27 | Thunder_Child | we* |
| 01:22.33 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 01:22.36 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 01:22.37 | Dolby | yeah! |
| 01:22.45 | Thunder_Child | that coomment hurt my brain |
| 01:22.47 | DWSR | bleeter: wtf? |
| 01:22.48 | Thunder_Child | comment* |
| 01:23.16 | alestane | Okay, Cairenn and I were the last UI people going down that escalator then, and I have no idea who that is after us. |
| 01:23.34 | DWSR | Cairenn's a hottie! |
| 01:23.40 | Cairenn | heh, not |
| 01:23.55 | DWSR | *shrug* |
| 01:24.01 | alestane | That camera in my hand dropped dead about five minutes into BlizzCon. |
| 01:24.04 | DWSR | Unless someone shopped it, I do believe you are. |
| 01:24.11 | bleeter | DWSR: same company who do that mac-mini datacentre, so I'm sure it's genuine |
| 01:24.16 | Thunder_Child | umm..fail alestane? |
| 01:24.24 | alestane | Yeah, seriously. |
| 01:24.28 | DWSR | bleeter: No, seriously, wtf is that? |
| 01:24.30 | WobWork | failestane? |
| 01:24.43 | alestane | The few photos I have from that con look like absolute crap. |
| 01:25.07 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn's from 2009 could use some work |
| 01:25.15 | Cairenn | alestane: there are a few more UI folks further up the escalator, the group of 4 right behind the couple behind you and I |
| 01:26.19 | alestane | I didn't spend as much time with those folks. Are they from Curse? A couple do look at least a bit familiar. |
| 01:27.03 | Thunder_Child | they dont seem to be in the finl shot |
| 01:27.07 | Thunder_Child | final* |
| 01:27.20 | Thunder_Child | but then there are a few people missing |
| 01:27.36 | bleeter | DWSR: seriously, same guys who set up the mac mini datacentre |
| 01:29.13 | foxlit | [[F! "F" with her ad hoc conclusions!!]] |
| 01:29.37 | WobWork | bleeter: not quite seriously in execution =P |
| 01:30.39 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:32.26 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:32.35 | alestane | Two? |
| 01:32.41 | Cairenn | yep |
| 01:32.49 | Bruners | more like 9000 by now |
| 01:32.52 | alestane | Canada is apparently kicking Russia in the cans. |
| 01:33.35 | Cairenn | trying to verify who those are |
| 01:33.37 | Cairenn | grrr |
| 01:33.41 | Shirik | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL |
| 01:33.48 | Cairenn | 6-1 now |
| 01:33.53 | Shirik | ^ if mexicans played hockey |
| 01:33.55 | Cairenn | and only 5 mins into the 2nd |
| 01:34.08 | Cairenn | bah |
| 01:34.10 | Cairenn | 6-2 |
| 01:34.19 | Shirik | is that all? |
| 01:34.22 | Shirik | I'm disappointed in Canada |
| 01:34.23 | foxlit | And a goal keeper swap |
| 01:34.34 | Bruners | Shirik: are you mexican? |
| 01:34.36 | Jerub | who is canada playing? |
| 01:34.38 | Shirik | nope |
| 01:34.39 | Cairenn | Russia |
| 01:34.54 | Audible | well, why shouldnt canada win in hockey |
| 01:34.55 | Audible | ? |
| 01:35.01 | Shirik | because canada sucks |
| 01:35.04 | foxlit | Because they lost last year. |
| 01:35.24 | Audible | well, they did beat us ? |
| 01:35.30 | Audible | US that is |
| 01:35.36 | Shirik | no they didn't |
| 01:35.38 | Shirik | stop spouting lies |
| 01:35.50 | Thunder_Child | ok this looks seriously tasty right now http://www.popcornpalace.com/index.cfm/fa/prod.flavors?source=google&kw=&_s_ref=337J3Di1S&creative=3963242705 |
| 01:36.54 | Cairenn | I want to say that it's Taco-Man (EQ2I), Tekkub, Trey (?) and their friend |
| 01:36.54 | Bruners | Norway needs more USA-candy |
| 01:37.05 | alestane | Thunder_Child: I need to close that page right now before I order it all. |
| 01:37.15 | Bruners | starting with skitties |
| 01:37.16 | Thunder_Child | i know >.< |
| 01:37.20 | Cairenn | but I'm not positive |
| 01:37.22 | Audible | Bruners : no we dont, look at us, we're a growing nation |
| 01:37.24 | Thunder_Child | and it's expensive |
| 01:37.37 | Thunder_Child | $20 for any one bag on that page |
| 01:37.37 | Audible | + skitties are in europe so you can import it |
| 01:37.46 | Cairenn | hah! I got it right! |
| 01:37.49 | Thunder_Child | but you get one gallon of it |
| 01:37.51 | Cairenn | http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/Faces/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 01:37.54 | alestane | Cairenn: I think one may indeed be tekkub. Didn't spend that much time with him though. |
| 01:37.55 | Thunder_Child | whatever the hell that is |
| 01:37.58 | Cairenn | Miller, that's his name |
| 01:38.00 | Bruners | Audible: we also have them in norway, only problem is that it costs to much |
| 01:38.04 | Cairenn | their friend |
| 01:38.17 | Shirik | I look so short in that picture... |
| 01:38.17 | Cairenn | who is also gay, damnit! |
| 01:38.21 | Shirik | can we not post it anymore? |
| 01:38.23 | Cairenn | the boy was tastey! |
| 01:38.31 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: you are sitting down |
| 01:38.37 | Thunder_Child | you are supposed to look short |
| 01:38.55 | Thunder_Child | and you are hunched |
| 01:39.03 | Dolby | Shirik is standing |
| 01:39.07 | Dolby | he is just very short |
| 01:39.29 | Bruners | so many neckbeards |
| 01:39.34 | Audible | Bruners : looking at the average american bmi, they should cost just what they cost, we have enough food ;) |
| 01:40.00 | Bruners | Audible: did you open that link or not? |
| 01:40.25 | Audible | yeah i did, looks tasty |
| 01:40.54 | Bruners | so stfu! :P |
| 01:41.24 | Audible | alot of porn actresses look tasty aswell, that doesnt mean i will fuck them |
| 01:41.38 | Shirik | so |
| 01:41.40 | Audible | anyway |
| 01:41.41 | Shirik | curling |
| 01:41.44 | Audible | its 2.30 am here |
| 01:41.44 | DWSR | Holy shit. |
| 01:41.45 | Shirik | why the hell is it a sport |
| 01:41.46 | Audible | good night |
| 01:41.57 | DWSR | Out of everyone in that picture, I would be the youngest by probably 3 years. |
| 01:42.01 | Bruners | Audible: 2:41 |
| 01:42.14 | DWSR | Shirik: If you've never played it, you won't understand. |
| 01:42.14 | alestane | Shirik: That's sort of what we were all saying the first year they included it. |
| 01:42.16 | Bruners | actually 42 |
| 01:42.18 | Shirik | like, most sports have to do with some kind of physical accomplishment that would normally be something useful |
| 01:42.21 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: i think the youngest is Shirik |
| 01:42.23 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:42.27 | Shirik | but |
| 01:42.30 | Shirik | wtf is curling |
| 01:42.34 | alestane | "This sport doesn't make sense yet, pour me another shot." |
| 01:42.35 | DWSR | T_C: Shirik is still like 20, right? |
| 01:42.38 | Shirik | it requires no physical skill, it has no practical purpose |
| 01:42.38 | Thunder_Child | or maybe guil |
| 01:42.53 | Shirik | I'm 23 tyvm... |
| 01:42.55 | alestane | Shirik: It certainly does require physical skill. |
| 01:42.57 | DWSR | yeah, see? |
| 01:43.00 | DWSR | <- 19 |
| 01:43.01 | Shirik | what kind of physical skill? |
| 01:43.03 | Thunder_Child | actually i think guillotine is 18 there |
| 01:43.09 | Shirik | you're pushing something on a near frictionless surface |
| 01:43.20 | DWSR | Shirik: Precision and accuracy. |
| 01:43.23 | Shirik | but not strength |
| 01:43.25 | DWSR | It's *not* frictionless. |
| 01:43.28 | Shirik | NEAR |
| 01:43.30 | Dolby | Shirik looks like he is 16 but hes really 42 |
| 01:43.31 | Adys | guillotines Thunder_Child |
| 01:43.32 | DWSR | Not at all. |
| 01:43.32 | alestane | It's about precision and coordination, yes. |
| 01:43.46 | Thunder_Child | Dolby: he is not the meaning of life damit |
| 01:43.50 | Thunder_Child | ty Adys |
| 01:43.54 | Shirik | I am the meaning of life |
| 01:43.58 | Shirik | I thought we went over this last night |
| 01:44.00 | Shirik | let me go back to my logs |
| 01:44.01 | Shirik | one sec |
| 01:44.08 | Bruners | and Fisker is life? |
| 01:44.09 | alestane | Now admittedly, these days we watch curling and go "this is awesome and I have no idea why." |
| 01:44.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: think of it like a team game of horseshoes |
| 01:45.06 | alestane | Crossed with Bocce. |
| 01:45.26 | Shirik | at least bocce isn't an olympic sport |
| 01:45.28 | Shirik | nor is horseshoes |
| 01:45.53 | Thunder_Child | yet |
| 01:45.56 | DWSR | Shirik: There's drinking involved in curling |
| 01:46.01 | Shirik | .. |
| 01:46.41 | DWSR | srsly. |
| 01:46.48 | DWSR | Bonspiels are all about getting wasted and curling |
| 01:47.12 | Bruners | curling is that throw stone and "wash" the ice with a stick thing? |
| 01:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 01:47.20 | DWSR | Bruners: Sweep, but yes. |
| 01:47.42 | DWSR | Shirik: The surface of the ice is actually peppled purposely. |
| 01:47.45 | Bruners | it looks kinda fun |
| 01:47.52 | Shirik | peppled purposely |
| 01:47.58 | DWSR | Pebbled* |
| 01:47.59 | DWSR | sorry. |
| 01:48.02 | Shirik | aw |
| 01:48.06 | Shirik | peppled purposely was more fun |
| 01:48.09 | DWSR | inorite:? |
| 01:48.17 | DWSR | Anyway, the ice surface is pebbled purposely. |
| 01:48.45 | DWSR | The sweeping is a major part of the game. |
| 01:49.02 | WobWork | well I'd hope so |
| 01:49.06 | WobWork | they do it so enthusiastically |
| 01:49.20 | WobWork | if it was pointless, it would be disappointing |
| 01:49.25 | DWSR | Yeah, you can curl the stone using it. |
| 01:49.47 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:49.55 | WobWork | I've done my week's worth of work |
| 01:50.14 | WobWork | but the site is up! |
| 01:50.17 | WobWork | \o/ |
| 01:50.36 | cog|away | login server down? |
| 01:50.38 | WobWork | bugfixing now...well, not for me, as I'm on another project =P |
| 01:50.41 | DWSR | cog|away: No. |
| 01:50.48 | cog|away | :| |
| 01:50.53 | WobWork | www.blackmores.com.au |
| 01:50.54 | cog|away | reboots his nic |
| 01:51.45 | Thunder_Child | i keep reading that as blacksmores |
| 01:52.20 | WobWork | black s'mores are not good things |
| 01:52.51 | Amarande | did you burn your s'mores? :) |
| 01:53.09 | WobWork | TC must have |
| 01:53.17 | DWSR | WobWork: Nice site. :) |
| 01:53.19 | Thunder_Child | maybe it's slang for smores that use chocolate graham crackers |
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| 01:53.50 | Shirik | Seeraj |
| 01:53.59 | WobWork | DWSR: ta =) It's taken a while to get it all together, but the client is happy =) |
| 01:54.03 | Shirik | I like that name |
| 01:54.06 | Thunder_Child | it's Seerah junior |
| 01:54.25 | WobWork | Mah Seerajah |
| 01:54.47 | Seerah | :) |
| 01:57.20 | Shirik | prods WobWork |
| 01:57.35 | WobWork | falls over |
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| 01:58.06 | WobWork | What's up Mr Rik? |
| 01:58.17 | foxlit | Google needs to stop slacking |
| 01:58.26 | foxlit | http://www.google.com/search?q=hockey |
| 01:59.02 | foxlit | 4 - 1? This clearly demands up-to-the-second updates. |
| 01:59.10 | Shirik | I know seriously |
| 01:59.14 | Bruners | who needs google when you have Cairenn |
| 01:59.16 | Shirik | They don't even have the marathon results |
| 01:59.16 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 01:59.30 | WobWork | It's a really long race, Shirik |
| 01:59.56 | Cairenn | 7-3 end of the 2nd, just went to intermission |
| 02:00.09 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: i think the w was a why |
| 02:00.15 | Thunder_Child | not a what |
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| 02:00.42 | WobWork | well that wasn't very clear |
| 02:00.54 | Thunder_Child | yes it is |
| 02:00.55 | Shirik | 703 |
| 02:00.56 | Shirik | 7-3 |
| 02:00.59 | Thunder_Child | from the first part |
| 02:00.59 | Shirik | what do you think this is, football? |
| 02:01.05 | Shirik | Hockey games are supposed to be like 1-0 |
| 02:01.11 | Shirik | who taught you canadians how to play |
| 02:01.17 | WobWork | what do you think this is, Soccer? |
| 02:02.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: this is what you want? http://www.nbcolympics.com/hockey/resultsandschedules/match=IHM400302/index.html |
| 02:02.27 | Shirik | no |
| 02:02.29 | Shirik | I want the marathon results |
| 02:03.00 | Thunder_Child | the biathalon? |
| 02:03.04 | Shirik | nio |
| 02:03.08 | Shirik | 26 mile run |
| 02:03.08 | Thunder_Child | i didnt think they had a marathon |
| 02:03.20 | Shirik | why not |
| 02:03.24 | Shirik | it's about as logical as curling |
| 02:03.32 | Cairenn | they do |
| 02:03.36 | Thunder_Child | who the fuck wants to run in the snow |
| 02:03.45 | Shirik | who wants to bowl on ice? |
| 02:04.09 | Thunder_Child | better than bowling on gravel |
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| 02:04.24 | Shirik | time to go |
| 02:04.34 | WobWork | bowling for Columbine? |
| 02:04.40 | Thunder_Child | ya Shirik. go run. |
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| 02:07.56 | Thunder_Child | seriously....shipping that costs 2x the cost of the item being shipped is major fail |
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| 02:15.59 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i dont want to buy $1500 worth of popcorn |
| 02:16.29 | ckknight | ...wtf |
| 02:16.32 | ckknight | why wouldn't you? |
| 02:16.41 | Seerah | you can give me some :) |
| 02:16.47 | Thunder_Child | because i'm not sure i can eat that much |
| 02:16.59 | Thunder_Child | thats 2500 lbs. of popcorn |
| 02:17.01 | digmouse|work | my teeth is killing me so no popcorn |
| 02:17.05 | Thunder_Child | unpoped |
| 02:17.06 | NeoTron | why would you even consider $1500 worth of popcorn? |
| 02:17.15 | NeoTron | like.. what's the point ? |
| 02:17.15 | DWSR | T_C: wtf? |
| 02:17.21 | Thunder_Child | because i cant go pick it up unless i get a pllet worth |
| 02:17.26 | Thunder_Child | pallet* |
| 02:17.27 | Thunder_Child | and thats 50 of them |
| 02:17.40 | NeoTron | Costco = box of 32 bags for a reasonble price :P |
| 02:17.51 | Thunder_Child | look, i want to buy one bag of 50 lb. popcorn. the damn shipping on it is 2x as much |
| 02:18.11 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron: i have a popper, i just want the kernals |
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| 02:20.54 | Cloudwolf | Any one know the website of that one chat robot that learns from people talking to it and it tries to hold a conversation? |
| 02:21.24 | cbreak | search for alice |
| 02:21.30 | cbreak | there are quite a few chatter bots |
| 02:21.38 | cbreak | but alice is probably the most popular framework |
| 02:21.49 | cbreak | you can download it as java executable |
| 02:21.54 | cbreak | it's very customisable |
| 02:22.02 | cbreak | there's a version online that pretends to be god :) |
| 02:22.09 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 02:22.19 | cbreak | http://www.alicebot.org/igod/ |
| 02:22.27 | cbreak | of course he's the igod |
| 02:22.48 | cbreak | http://www.alicebot.org/documentation/ for more infos |
| 02:22.55 | DWSR | igod rofl. |
| 02:23.18 | Cloudwolf | well >.> i think the one i was thinking of was one that was supposed to try and pass the test where people might not realize they arn't talking to a human |
| 02:24.11 | cbreak | I wrote an Eliza port for WoW ages ago |
| 02:24.21 | cbreak | Turing Test |
| 02:24.31 | eidolarr | does anyone know of a good source of documentation for advanced git features? |
| 02:24.38 | DWSR | man git |
| 02:24.43 | DWSR | no, seriously. |
| 02:24.44 | cbreak | eidolarr: man pages are very good |
| 02:24.47 | cbreak | there's a book too |
| 02:24.50 | eidolarr | i find them lacking |
| 02:24.53 | eidolarr | what's the book called? |
| 02:24.54 | cbreak | an if in doubt, join us in #git :) |
| 02:25.09 | cbreak | http://book.git-scm.com/ |
| 02:25.12 | cbreak | I think :) |
| 02:25.15 | cbreak | never touched it |
| 02:25.17 | cbreak | or looked at it |
| 02:25.25 | eidolarr | can you give me a hint on setting up a remote branch? |
| 02:25.37 | cbreak | it's easy |
| 02:25.42 | cbreak | do you have a remote repository? |
| 02:25.47 | eidolarr | yeah |
| 02:25.57 | cbreak | did you add that as remote of your local repository? |
| 02:26.03 | eidolarr | and i've got local branches down |
| 02:26.04 | eidolarr | yeah |
| 02:26.05 | cbreak | (git remote add remotename) |
| 02:26.09 | eidolarr | remote/origin/master etc/ |
| 02:26.11 | eidolarr | ? |
| 02:26.24 | cbreak | now, if you do a git remote update |
| 02:26.38 | cbreak | after that, git branch -r should show you the remote branches |
| 02:26.43 | cbreak | (branches on the remote) |
| 02:26.48 | cbreak | exactly |
| 02:27.02 | eidolarr | so someone with access to the remote has to create a branch, or can i push one? |
| 02:27.12 | cbreak | you can push local branches |
| 02:27.26 | cbreak | if you have enough access of coursre |
| 02:27.33 | eidolarr | yeah |
| 02:27.34 | Shirik | stop using git |
| 02:27.37 | Shirik | it will corrupt your soul |
| 02:27.38 | cbreak | NO! |
| 02:27.45 | cbreak | hg will corrupt your soul |
| 02:27.47 | eidolarr | i was won over by gitk |
| 02:27.54 | cbreak | you'll get a heavy metal poisoning |
| 02:28.01 | Shirik | hg and bzr >>> hg |
| 02:28.02 | cbreak | gitx > gitk |
| 02:28.02 | Shirik | er |
| 02:28.06 | Shirik | hg and bzr >>> git |
| 02:28.30 | eidolarr | gitx isn't installed on my university cluster =( |
| 02:28.39 | cbreak | of course not |
| 02:28.46 | cbreak | clusters usually don't run os x |
| 02:28.53 | eidolarr | oh |
| 02:28.54 | eidolarr | psh |
| 02:28.55 | Shirik | oh god |
| 02:28.58 | Shirik | git AND mac os |
| 02:29.04 | eidolarr | even i am not so cavalier |
| 02:29.04 | cbreak | Even better! :D |
| 02:29.11 | Shirik | you trying to commit seppuku? |
| 02:29.16 | Shirik | it may be easier |
| 02:29.18 | Shirik | with a sword |
| 02:29.39 | cbreak | just look at it: http://gitx.frim.nl/ |
| 02:29.42 | Thunder_Child | but not as much fun |
| 02:30.08 | eidolarr | i used git for the whole kernel project without knowing but the basics |
| 02:30.33 | eidolarr | in the first week or so, the solution to remote conflict was "delete and recreate repository" |
| 02:30.46 | cog|away | ~seen sixen |
| 02:30.50 | purl | sixen <~Sixen@149-169-58-68.nat.asu.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 47m 9s ago, saying: 'brb'. |
| 02:31.10 | cogwheel | so much for 'r' |
| 02:31.10 | Thunder_Child | what, now you want to play? |
| 02:31.13 | cogwheel | no |
| 02:31.18 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 02:31.22 | cogwheel | i just got Sixen's Skullcap in icecrown |
| 02:32.51 | kd3 | I'm still sad that there wasn't an obnoxious gnome somewhere complaining about bugs |
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| 02:37.13 | Seerah | speak of the devil.... |
| 02:37.27 | Sixen | orly? |
| 02:37.35 | Sixen | Am I the devil?: O |
| 02:37.46 | Seerah | cogwheel: ^^ |
| 02:37.52 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel was looking for you |
| 02:37.56 | Sixen | ah |
| 02:37.58 | cogwheel | Sixen: got your skullcap |
| 02:38.09 | Sixen | Bahahaha |
| 02:38.14 | Sixen | Don't DE it :( |
| 02:38.20 | cogwheel | ima wear it for now :) |
| 02:38.21 | Sixen | or vendor |
| 02:38.23 | Sixen | =) |
| 02:38.35 | Seerah | he's going to add it to his "Sixen Shrine" |
| 02:38.41 | Sixen | ^_^ |
| 02:38.45 | Sixen | <3 |
| 02:39.28 | cogwheel | pfft... |
| 02:39.35 | cogwheel | it happens to be better than what i was wearing :P |
| 02:40.28 | Sixen | :( |
| 02:40.34 | Sixen | Could've left it at that |
| 02:40.44 | Sixen | At least I felt good ;p |
| 02:40.55 | cogwheel | chuckles |
| 02:41.04 | Seerah | hugs Sixen and glares at cogwheel |
| 02:41.05 | Seerah | :) |
| 02:41.11 | cogwheel | the only shrine i keep is for caffeine :> |
| 02:41.12 | Sixen | =) |
| 02:41.34 | cogwheel | sorry Sixen ... i didn't even get to do battle before fordring wants to give me a much better hat >< |
| 02:41.38 | Thunder_Child | that must mean think geek is where you pray |
| 02:41.51 | cogwheel | and ding 78 |
| 02:42.03 | Seerah | how many hours played so far? |
| 02:42.12 | Shirik | Seerah |
| 02:42.13 | Shirik | icu |
| 02:42.20 | cogwheel | 12d11h on this toon |
| 02:42.25 | Seerah | I'm not in the intensive care unit... :( |
| 02:42.40 | Seerah | cogwheel: seriously? seems like you've been leveling faster than that :p |
| 02:42.56 | Seerah | maybe you just need something else to do with your time.... ;) |
| 02:43.03 | cogwheel | i leveled this rogue to 64 during BC |
| 02:43.13 | Seerah | ...... |
| 02:43.14 | cogwheel | so it was much slower going |
| 02:43.27 | Seerah | what was the character you created a few weeks ago? |
| 02:43.33 | cogwheel | pally :> |
| 02:43.37 | Seerah | ohhh |
| 02:43.38 | cogwheel | he's still 26 |
| 02:43.44 | Sixen | lol cog, :p |
| 02:44.06 | cogwheel | i stopped leveling my mage at 65 ... just wanted high level inscription |
| 02:47.12 | Shirik | Patch Aborted: The file "C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Data\enUS\patch-enUS-3.MPQ : DBFilesClient\DeclinedWordCases.dbc" could not be written |
| 02:47.27 | Shirik | (MPQTarget::Write/SFileWriteFile) |
| 02:47.27 | Shirik | The disk doesn't have enough free space to install World of Warcraft Update. Please free up space. |
| 02:47.29 | Shirik | epic fail. |
| 02:48.11 | Cairenn | WIN!!!! |
| 02:48.28 | alestane | That's game? What was the final? |
| 02:49.23 | cogwheel | Shirik: lolnub |
| 02:49.30 | Cairenn | 7-3 |
| 02:51.02 | cogwheel | thumps his chest in us vs them mob mentality |
| 02:51.05 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 02:51.07 | cogwheel | >.> |
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| 03:06.10 | Cairenn | GOLD! AND SILVER! Ladies 2-man bobsled! |
| 03:06.46 | alestane | For Canada? |
| 03:07.04 | alestane | This seems to be the year Canada makes up for "no gold on home soil" with a vengeance. |
| 03:07.14 | Cairenn | yep |
| 03:07.49 | Thunder_Child | but it's skewed in canadas favor, it's like having a 'be an asshole on the internet contest' and having it @ 4chan |
| 03:08.21 | Adys | nevcairiel: you around? |
| 03:09.59 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425583127&sid=1 |
| 03:10.27 | Kraps | check out #1 and the blue |
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| 03:11.08 | Adys | blame the goat when there's an elephant right behind it |
| 03:14.06 | Adys | well this is awkward |
| 03:14.22 | Thunder_Child | dont let your parents walk in on you then |
| 03:14.29 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: you realize you are full of shit, right? |
| 03:14.29 | Adys | adding a __getitem__ method to a class automatically makes it iterable |
| 03:14.50 | Adys | Cairenn: he realized that years ago |
| 03:14.52 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: yes. but that doesnt change my comment |
| 03:15.20 | Cairenn | we've hosted the games 3 times, this is the first time we've ever won any golds at home - how the fuck do you find that skewed? |
| 03:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | oh man |
| 03:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Time for me to flee the immediate blast zone |
| 03:16.19 | Adys | maybe it's because my native country is full of ass, but I always found national pride pointless |
| 03:16.31 | Thunder_Child | i'm with Adys on that one |
| 03:16.46 | Adys | Thunder_Child: on the france being full of ass part, or the other one? |
| 03:16.53 | Thunder_Child | 2nd part |
| 03:17.08 | Thunder_Child | i wont comment on france, never been there |
| 03:17.49 | Arrowmaster | to be honest i thought i heard canada managed to complete all the preparations like 2 years ahead of time so people have had way more time to practice on the courses being used than before, and somebody from canada would have some advantage on how often they are able to get out to the location before the games |
| 03:18.13 | Adys | does it really matter anyway? |
| 03:18.15 | Amarande | w00t awesome kipper save |
| 03:18.19 | Arrowmaster | not really |
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| 03:18.56 | Arrowmaster | its a minor advantage but not a major game changer |
| 03:18.57 | Amarande | Arrow: doesn't the host country always have that advantage though |
| 03:19.00 | Adys | it's the olympics, you can have a great time watching it and corps can have a great time getting money over you watching them |
| 03:19.36 | Adys | arguing over politics in sports is like taking a dump over your dinner before eating it |
| 03:19.55 | Thunder_Child | it makes it more heathy? |
| 03:19.57 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: host country always has that advantage but having everything completed 2 years ahead of time has never happened before |
| 03:20.04 | Adys | Thunder_Child: you'd know |
| 03:20.13 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 03:20.18 | Thunder_Child | i watch you do it all the time |
| 03:20.28 | Adys | i thought you'd never been to france |
| 03:20.29 | Adys | HA |
| 03:20.36 | Thunder_Child | webcam |
| 03:20.58 | Adys | I'm on linux, even if I had one it wouldn't work |
| 03:21.11 | Thunder_Child | who said you set it up? |
| 03:21.25 | Adys | I thought you'd never been to france |
| 03:21.26 | Amarande | Adys: and we can't watch the olympics on the web either :| |
| 03:21.34 | Thunder_Child | who said i set it up? |
| 03:21.52 | Adys | you're a poopyhead |
| 03:22.24 | Adys | wins the argument and leaves |
| 03:35.47 | Adys | Adys 1 - 0 Convo |
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| 03:40.17 | Thrae | So call my stupid, but after a long hiatus from WoW and doing Heroics runs for a while, I finally upgraded from the Green [Idol of the Plainstalker] (Quest Reward) to the Purple [Idol of the Corruptor] (T8), and only because I didn't realize I could make Emblems of Conquest from my Emblems of Triumph. |
| 03:40.51 | Adys | calls Thrae's stupid |
| 03:41.14 | Adys | No answer :( |
| 03:41.14 | alestane | Iriel: The discussion on how to handle environments in Lua 5.2 continues. |
| 03:41.55 | Iriel | I noticed |
| 03:42.18 | Thrae | Adys: Yeah, well, in my defense, it's stupid the T8 Idol is still better than the T9 Idol for Bear Tanking. |
| 03:42.22 | Iriel | I think your concern about _ENV being altered in-function is entirely unnecessary |
| 03:42.49 | alestane | I also think it may have fewer ramifications than I originally thought. |
| 03:43.47 | Iriel | This one seems pretty clean, certainly based on a more "basic" underlying mechanism |
| 03:44.16 | alestane | In the case of the secure handlers, a handler might be able to louse itself up, but it shouldn't be able to break out of the sandbox. |
| 03:44.41 | Seerah | alestane: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/japanese/d3c6/zoom/ |
| 03:45.05 | Adys | Seeing "sex" and "japanese" in a url always puts me off |
| 03:45.19 | Adys | I've been scarred for life |
| 03:45.30 | alestane | You still won't be able to manipulate another module's enviornments without the debug library or deliberate hooks in the other code, but I think that's intentional. |
| 03:45.44 | Iriel | I think that's absolutely intentional |
| 03:45.58 | Iriel | This is just like in blah except you can get access to the environment and make it mutable IF YOU WANT |
| 03:46.00 | alestane | Seerah: That one is kind of meh to me. |
| 03:46.11 | alestane | "blah"? |
| 03:46.26 | Iriel | Laziness |
| 03:46.28 | Iriel | in <whatever> |
| 03:46.35 | Iriel | the original 5.2 approach |
| 03:47.44 | alestane | If I read it right, it also allows you to use anything that can be indexed as an environment, which has the potential to solve certain problems we ran into with protected environments. |
| 03:48.15 | Iriel | Potentially, though since you can't get at the environment if we dont want you to, it's not quite as big of a problem, I dont think |
| 03:50.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> local x = newproxy(true); getmetatable(x).__index=getfenv(0); setfenv(0,x); print("test") |
| 03:50.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'setfenv' (table expected, got userdata) |
| 03:50.50 | alestane | Well, the only real way I can see for us to stop snippets from touching the environment at all is to refuse to loadstring anything that has _ENV in it. But as I've been thinking about it, I've been concluding that that's probably not actually dangerous, since the snippet doesn't have any dangerous values to put there. |
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| 03:51.05 | alestane | They can break themselves, but they can't subvert it. |
| 03:51.09 | Iriel | You just have to start the functon with _ENV = nil; |
| 03:51.12 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 03:51.24 | alestane | That will annihilate all access to globals. |
| 03:51.42 | Arrowmaster | where can i read about these new 5.2 changes or is it mailing list only? |
| 03:51.51 | alestane | Well, I think the list is archived. |
| 03:52.11 | Jerub | Adys: http://5z8.info/instant-purchase_m1h5z_cats-being-dropped-into-the-sea |
| 03:52.14 | Iriel | I dont think that's how it works |
| 03:52.44 | Iriel | But maybe it is |
| 03:52.58 | Iriel | Perhaps local _ENV = nil is what I meant |
| 03:53.03 | alestane | "Any global name <var> (that is, a variable name without a visible declaration) is changed to _ENV.<var>. This change is syntactic, meaning that _ENV refers to whatever _ENV is visible at that point in the code. (Because of rule 1, however, _ENV will never be a global name.)" |
| 03:53.16 | Iriel | Hm. |
| 03:53.22 | alestane | I think anything you do to interfere with the scoping will also break global access. |
| 03:53.33 | alestane | All globals are now effectively _ENV.name. |
| 03:53.42 | Iriel | actually yes, I think you're right, as I notice the elimination of SETGLOBAL/GETGLOBAL |
| 03:53.49 | Iriel | Ok, then your question about proxy objects is super useful 8-) |
| 03:53.50 | alestane | So if you change _ENV, you change how globals are accessed. |
| 03:54.32 | Iriel | And since the compiler treats _ENV as any other indexed object, I'm fairly sure we can make it anything we want |
| 03:55.14 | alestane | Not that this is ever important unless WoW migrates to Lua 5.2. |
| 03:55.45 | alestane | While I don't think the changes would seriously impact FrameXML except for the sandbox, I suspect a lot of addons would break. |
| 03:56.17 | Iriel | I doubt it'd be THAT many |
| 03:56.41 | Iriel | And those that do are probably because of a namespace idiom that's easily fixed |
| 03:56.55 | alestane | And I don't think there's any way 5.2 will be in a state suitable to be considered for inclusion in 4.0. |
| 03:57.07 | Iriel | I dont think there's any REASON to need to include it |
| 03:57.19 | alestane | What is there works. |
| 03:57.31 | Arrowmaster | so does rule 2 mean no more GETGLOBAL op? since its syntactic suger |
| 03:57.53 | alestane | No more GET?SETGLOBAL opcodes, that's correct. |
| 03:58.24 | alestane | All names that can't be matched to a local in scope will be translated into _ENV.name. |
| 03:58.39 | Arrowmaster | so the sillyness that we do for 'local _G = getfenv(0); _G.<global>()' is gone? |
| 03:59.02 | Amarande | FOXTROT UNIFORM CHARLIE KILO |
| 03:59.10 | Amarande | where the hell did I put my backup DVD+Rs?! |
| 03:59.37 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: it becomes local _G = _ENV ; local _ENV = {} |
| 03:59.49 | Iriel | or whatever |
| 04:01.03 | alestane | Actually, I don't think there's any way in the projected 5.2 to gain access to an environment that's been shadowed unless specific provisions are made to make it available downward. |
| 04:02.06 | alestane | No getfenv(0). |
| 04:02.34 | Iriel | Exactly |
| 04:02.40 | Iriel | Though if you have debug, you can do it |
| 04:02.43 | Iriel | because you can find the upvalue |
| 04:02.56 | Arrowmaster | i had issues with that original 5.2 method with the weird ass (environment) but this i dont really see any flaws with |
| 04:03.41 | alestane | Arrowmaster: The biggest issue before was that it was trying to support two different kinds of environments through two different systems. |
| 04:04.08 | alestane | They're really not compatible. |
| 04:05.15 | Arrowmaster | well one of the issues i had with that first 5.2 thing was that it completely removed the ability to safety net _G like this new one now changes the language to do by default |
| 04:05.28 | Shirik | What the hell |
| 04:05.38 | Shirik | Job application has two questions, sequentially: |
| 04:05.59 | Shirik | "1. Are you hispanic/latino?" "2. If not, which race do you most closely identify with?" |
| 04:06.07 | Shirik | Why the hell is the first question not just part of the second? |
| 04:06.55 | alestane | Shirik: Probably some kind of affirmative action thing. |
| 04:06.55 | Arrowmaster | better question, why are they asking about hispanic/latino specifically? |
| 04:07.28 | alestane | If it's in a predominantly hispanic area, it's conceivable, although still sort of extreme. |
| 04:12.05 | Wobin | ... closely identify with? |
| 04:12.14 | Wobin | oh |
| 04:12.18 | Wobin | which -other- race |
| 04:12.30 | Wobin | I read that as "Oh, on Tuesdays, I kinda feel a little Latino" |
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| 04:17.51 | Cairenn | Shirik: those types of questions are illegal on job apps in Canada |
| 04:18.21 | Shirik | they qualify it with "you don't have to answer and it won't affect your job" |
| 04:18.23 | Cairenn | along with what your gender is, and how old you are (other than are you of legal age to work) |
| 04:18.24 | Shirik | but most US jobs do it |
| 04:18.26 | Cairenn | ahhhhh |
| 04:18.38 | Shirik | I think it's just a survey thing |
| 04:18.39 | Cairenn | even so, in Canada, they could get smacked hard for that |
| 04:18.44 | Shirik | actually I think it's required for government jobs |
| 04:18.52 | Shirik | I don't get why |
| 04:19.03 | Cairenn | discrimination |
| 04:19.08 | kd3 | they can't discriminate based on your answers to those, but they have to know for tax purposes |
| 04:19.21 | Cairenn | they need to know *after* they hire you, not before |
| 04:19.25 | awweaver | FBI = no sense of humor, only requirement |
| 04:19.26 | kd3 | "Oh, we have x% minority women on our staff. That's a tax break!" |
| 04:20.20 | Amarande | heh, I thought FBI required you to be a lawyer or an accountant |
| 04:20.28 | Amarande | (which probably gets the no sense of humor bit all squared away though) |
| 04:20.39 | awweaver | yep |
| 04:22.04 | awweaver | LOL |
| 04:22.05 | awweaver | http://bash.org/?46598 |
| 04:23.54 | awweaver | ..... |
| 04:23.55 | awweaver | http://bash.org/?62241 |
| 04:25.00 | Amarande | wow, Finland-Czech Rep. still has no score at the end of 2 |
| 04:26.21 | Thrae | Ahh there's nothing like irssi. I added 20-some very nice scripts and, after getting a little bit of help, some very nice new features from said scripts. |
| 04:27.28 | Thrae | In example, I know have a count of the number of characters on my inputline using il.pl to help me learn how to keep myself under the ~460 limit. |
| 04:28.05 | Thrae | (the real limit being 512, but that's not counting the actual length of the command sent you don't normally see) |
| 04:28.51 | Arrowmaster | i just type as much as i want and the client turns it into multiple lines if needed |
| 04:29.29 | Shirik | batrick: Kill me |
| 04:29.46 | Thunder_Child | Thrae: if you need something to help you with going over 460 chars more than rarely, then there is something wrong that a script can not help with |
| 04:29.49 | Shirik | I just applied to this job: Intern - Student Engineer A/DSP SW Engineering Intern - DRT |
| 04:29.55 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: There's at least one channel which has a very strict script which counts characters used in the past X milliseconds as well as number of messages sent, so if I write a particularly long diatride it'll kick me. |
| 04:29.55 | Shirik | notice three letters that might be scary? |
| 04:30.17 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: Nah, it's something wrong with this admin's script, but I'm trying to compromise. |
| 04:34.28 | awweaver | 3d Pong | . |
| 04:35.39 | Shirik | I liked 4d more |
| 04:35.45 | awweaver | .... |
| 04:35.47 | awweaver | LOL |
| 04:35.52 | Wobin | http://armorgames.com/play/5379/sushi-cat |
| 04:35.53 | Shirik | hey hey hey |
| 04:35.55 | Shirik | 1 ball at a time |
| 04:35.58 | Shirik | none of this 4 ball crap |
| 04:36.16 | awweaver | LOL |
| 04:36.21 | awweaver | ...................... |
| 04:36.34 | awweaver | Golf! \. |
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| 04:50.02 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/S4QSt9Bg1YI/AAAAAAAALII/1MUL6nIhx1g/s1600-h/canada+US+hockey+response.jpg |
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| 04:55.16 | awweaver | and now where did i leave charlie the sammich |
| 04:56.19 | awweaver | ~botcnack |
| 04:56.26 | awweaver | ~botsnack |
| 04:56.26 | purl | awweaver: aw, gee |
| 05:01.07 | Shirik | ok Wobin that was awesome |
| 05:01.31 | awweaver | Shirik, that can be taken many, many ways |
| 05:02.14 | Wobin | HEAVY CAT |
| 05:02.33 | awweaver | .... |
| 05:03.25 | awweaver | Multi Ball Pong!!! |
| 05:03.28 | awweaver | .... |
| 05:04.02 | awweaver | _______ |
| 05:04.04 | awweaver | ...... |
| 05:04.07 | awweaver | hehe |
| 05:05.18 | Shirik | Wobin, I got "extreme cat" |
| 05:05.19 | Shirik | so eat that |
| 05:05.21 | Shirik | like 3 times |
| 05:05.22 | Shirik | owned |
| 05:05.26 | awweaver | wuh? |
| 05:05.34 | awweaver | and u ruined my game of pong |
| 05:05.51 | Wobin | hush, awweaver, and go play sushicat |
| 05:06.01 | awweaver | where? |
| 05:06.11 | Amarande | I got "AT LEAST WE HAVE HEALTH CARE" |
| 05:07.36 | Wobin | http://armorgames.com/play/5379/sushi-cat |
| 05:08.39 | awweaver | its plinko! |
| 05:09.04 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:09.12 | Shirik | I just realized a japanese game show that has not been invented yet |
| 05:09.15 | Shirik | I will become a millionare |
| 05:09.25 | Shirik | human plinko |
| 05:09.27 | Wobin | chances are... it -has- been invented =P |
| 05:09.29 | Shirik | it's brilliant |
| 05:09.33 | Wobin | it's called Takeshi's castle =P |
| 05:10.26 | Amarande | oy, who to root for on Friday ... |
| 05:10.39 | Amarande | Finland-US ... Finland has two guys from my usual favorite team, but I'm American ... heh |
| 05:10.39 | Shirik | usually you root for superuser |
| 05:11.07 | Amarande | do I root for the Kipper or do I root for my country :S |
| 05:11.33 | Jerub | Wobin: are you giggling on the inside when you hear questions like Amarande's just now? |
| 05:11.58 | Wobin | yes =) |
| 05:12.20 | Wobin | Personally, I root for maximum enjoyment! |
| 05:12.56 | Amarande | Jerub, you must not be a real hockey fan :P |
| 05:13.09 | Jerub | *giggle* |
| 05:15.53 | Wobin | I bet Amarande will root for anyone =P |
| 05:16.15 | Jerub | Wobin: I'd like to be on THAT band wagon. |
| 05:17.22 | Amarande | hmm, who do the flames play first after the olympic break |
| 05:18.43 | Amarande | ahh, minnesota wild |
| 05:18.48 | Amarande | they of the stupid looking pants |
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| 05:26.02 | Cairenn | Wobin: I hate you |
| 05:26.17 | Cairenn | stupid sushi cat |
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| 05:27.10 | Wobin | Cairenn, hehe =) |
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| 05:29.20 | Cairenn | why do you guys always insist on getting me hooked on stupid things like these? >.< |
| 05:30.14 | Adys | Shirik |
| 05:30.18 | Adys | did you link that sushi cat game? |
| 05:30.31 | Shirik | no Wobin did |
| 05:30.32 | Wobin | hides behind Shirik |
| 05:30.34 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 05:30.37 | Adys | my cat is stuck. |
| 05:30.40 | Shirik | rofl |
| 05:30.41 | Adys | its too fat |
| 05:30.43 | Adys | it cant get down |
| 05:30.45 | Wobin | TOO FAT =) |
| 05:30.49 | Adys | dude |
| 05:31.00 | Wobin | shake the monitor a bit =) |
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| 05:32.12 | Adys | Wobin, Shirik |
| 05:32.17 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/cat.png |
| 05:32.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:32.30 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 05:32.33 | Wobin | awesome |
| 05:32.49 | Adys | 17500 score |
| 05:32.55 | Adys | 25 sushi in one round. |
| 05:34.42 | awweaver | :( i finished |
| 05:34.53 | awweaver | Score 495,625 |
| 05:35.12 | Cairenn | lol, I'm having the same problem, on the same level, Adys |
| 05:35.19 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:35.25 | Adys | it stayed stuck for like 10 minutes |
| 05:35.28 | awweaver | 1952th out of 3816 |
| 05:35.34 | Wobin | before oozing down? |
| 05:35.37 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:35.42 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:36.00 | awweaver | U guys are still playing? damn im done already.. |
| 05:36.17 | awweaver | here u go, dont cause too much traffic |
| 05:36.18 | awweaver | http://armorgames.com/play/3515/i-love-traffic |
| 05:36.20 | Adys | Sorry, we were busy watching a cat get rolled over by tracks :P |
| 05:36.28 | awweaver | ? |
| 05:36.30 | awweaver | where? |
| 05:38.35 | Shirik | Cairenn / Adys: It's because you suck at this game |
| 05:38.37 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:38.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:38.47 | Shirik | not getting too fat is part of the challenge! |
| 05:38.58 | Adys | Tell that to your mama |
| 05:38.58 | Shirik | *sagely nod* |
| 05:39.08 | Shirik | Funny |
| 05:39.11 | Adys | I know |
| 05:39.15 | Shirik | I thought it seemed to be a canadian thing to get fat |
| 05:39.20 | Shirik | considering you are the only ones with problems |
| 05:39.48 | Cairenn | are you calling me fat? |
| 05:39.58 | Shirik | um |
| 05:40.00 | Shirik | no :( |
| 05:40.01 | Adys | he's calling you fat and gross and ugly |
| 05:40.08 | Adys | get rid of him while he's still young |
| 05:40.14 | Cairenn | sounded that way to me .... |
| 05:40.21 | Shirik | I would never say that! |
| 05:40.32 | Cairenn | no, just fat |
| 05:40.44 | Shirik | not you :( |
| 05:40.55 | Adys | I'm sorry Shirik but she's the canadian one here |
| 05:41.54 | eidolarr | is there a makefile wizerd here? |
| 05:42.00 | Adys | Shirik is |
| 05:42.08 | Shirik | my take on makefiles: |
| 05:42.16 | Shirik | cat /dev/urandom > makefile |
| 05:42.18 | Shirik | make |
| 05:42.21 | Shirik | did it work? |
| 05:42.23 | Shirik | If so, /win |
| 05:42.27 | Shirik | If not, try again |
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| 05:42.39 | eidolarr | hmm |
| 05:42.44 | eidolarr | i get the feeling you're pulling my leg |
| 05:42.49 | Thunder_Child | mutters about the blasted power outage |
| 05:42.50 | Shirik | I'm not |
| 05:42.52 | Adys | he's not, he really does that |
| 05:42.56 | Cairenn | rofl, he's still stuck |
| 05:42.59 | Shirik | makefiles are approximately as readable as /dev/urandom |
| 05:43.28 | Adys | try rot13(/dev/urandom) on intel architectures. |
| 05:43.58 | eidolarr | seriously though, anybody good at em? |
| 05:44.08 | awweaver | Here u can watch me play games |
| 05:44.09 | awweaver | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gauntlet-s-show |
| 05:44.14 | Shirik | makefiles are outdated |
| 05:44.15 | Shirik | use cmake |
| 05:44.30 | Adys | I agree with Shirik if you got the choice |
| 05:44.31 | eidolarr | i am a student i use as i am instructed |
| 05:44.36 | ZorbaTHut | whitespace-sensitive languages are bad enough |
| 05:44.42 | ZorbaTHut | who the fuck writes a language that's tab-character-sensitive |
| 05:44.43 | Kraps | Orbaz Bloodbane is a little mental |
| 05:44.47 | Shirik | ok, if you don't have the choice |
| 05:44.50 | ZorbaTHut | makefiles are an abomination |
| 05:44.53 | Shirik | use cmake and save the makefile it generates |
| 05:45.13 | eidolarr | how quick is cmake to learn? |
| 05:45.35 | Adys | eidolarr: depends, how fast is your cpu? |
| 05:45.38 | Shirik | you can make a trivial cmake list as your first in under an hour |
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| 05:46.01 | eidolarr | is it similar enough to make that i can bash my makefile for awhile until it works? |
| 05:46.37 | eidolarr | it looks quite dissimilar! |
| 05:46.47 | Shirik | it is! |
| 05:46.51 | Shirik | cmake is not a makefile |
| 05:46.53 | Shirik | it is a makefile generator |
| 05:47.04 | eidolarr | i am being subverted here |
| 05:47.07 | Adys | layer of layer of layer of layer of layer |
| 05:47.31 | Adys | I layered you layer layers so I layered a layer on your layer so you can layer layers while layering layer layers |
| 05:47.45 | eidolarr | anyway, i once had a class project where you could do 'make release' or 'make debug' to get different compiler flags |
| 05:47.51 | Thunder_Child | Adys: your meme sucks |
| 05:47.57 | eidolarr | it seems it has a sort of if statement in the beginning to analyze that |
| 05:47.59 | Adys | layer me this TC |
| 05:48.00 | eidolarr | is that bad style? |
| 05:48.09 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Adys |
| 05:48.09 | purl | beats Adys into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 05:48.13 | Adys | ~layer Thunder_Child |
| 05:48.14 | Cairenn | finally! |
| 05:48.15 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:48.19 | Thrae | Anyone here have IPv6? |
| 05:48.23 | Adys | how many sushi Cairenn ? |
| 05:48.45 | Cairenn | 18,000 pts |
| 05:48.45 | awweaver | Thrae, from vista on u have ipv6 in your computer automatically |
| 05:48.52 | Cairenn | all but 4 on the screen |
| 05:49.02 | awweaver | http://www.addictinggames.com/kittencannon.html |
| 05:49.05 | Adys | awweaver i think he meant isp-provided ipv6 |
| 05:49.13 | Thrae | awweaver: I mean for Internet access, and not Torendo or whatever it's called. |
| 05:49.20 | Thrae | Tunnels are also fine |
| 05:49.28 | Cairenn | and there's the last one |
| 05:49.34 | Cairenn | with 2 lives left |
| 05:50.21 | ZorbaTHut | eidolarr, I do that with my projects as well - "run", "runclean" to run without debug flags, "package" to build the installer packages |
| 05:50.37 | ZorbaTHut | you've got to be careful that you don't end up with an inconsistent build, "debug" and "release" should target different files |
| 05:50.52 | ZorbaTHut | it's perfectly fine style though |
| 05:50.52 | Thrae | I'm trying to see if I can use widentd (ident) with my IPv6 tunnel, but so far the port isn't showing as "open". |
| 05:51.06 | eidolarr | doesn't that conceal making, say, the 'debug' target if you had one? |
| 05:51.10 | Thrae | This could also be because widentd doesn't properly support IPv6. |
| 05:51.23 | eidolarr | when you say target different files you mean the object files? |
| 05:51.28 | ZorbaTHut | I personally don't have a specific debug target, I build with the same release flags in all cases |
| 05:51.47 | ZorbaTHut | yeah - if you have two different ways to build "someobject.o", depending on which command you give it, that's bad |
| 05:51.53 | ZorbaTHut | make it debug/someobject.o and release/someobject.o ideally |
| 05:52.10 | ZorbaTHut | or someobject.r.o and someobject.d.o or whatever you come up with |
| 05:52.18 | eidolarr | ah gotcha |
| 05:52.26 | eidolarr | ok thanks a bunch |
| 05:52.31 | eidolarr | which vcs do you use? |
| 05:52.40 | ZorbaTHut | git |
| 05:53.02 | Cairenn | hmmm, final score 592,700 |
| 05:53.11 | eidolarr | oh man i am going to bug you so hard about that at some point in the future |
| 05:53.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:53.18 | awweaver | guys play http://www.addictinggames.com/kittencannon.html |
| 05:53.24 | ZorbaTHut | keep in mind that I use a somewhat unconventional build tool ;) |
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| 05:53.52 | eidolarr | what tool is that? |
| 05:54.01 | Cide| | notepad |
| 05:54.02 | ZorbaTHut | ursa. I wrote it myself when I got fed up with scons |
| 05:54.18 | ZorbaTHut | (which I switched to long ago when I realized make was an atrocity) |
| 05:55.01 | Adys | is scons better ZorbaTHut? |
| 05:55.03 | ZorbaTHut | it's a lua-based build tool that's designed to be powerful and adaptable without having a lot of built-in crud and assumptions. built for people with weird build requirements, like me. |
| 05:55.08 | ZorbaTHut | adys, scons is certainly better than make |
| 05:55.15 | Adys | ive used it a couple of times but its not very widespread |
| 05:55.16 | Arrowmaster | awweaver: lame, its nothing but a copy of a much much older flash game |
| 05:55.24 | Adys | kay is it good, ZorbaTHut :P |
| 05:55.39 | eidolarr | is ursa available anywhere? |
| 05:55.53 | Arrowmaster | awweaver: and a bad copy at that |
| 05:56.00 | ZorbaTHut | adys, it's not particularly good for my purposes. it has some serious efficiency problems and IMHO the API is vastly overcomplicated |
| 05:56.30 | ZorbaTHut | eidolarr, http://github.com/zorbathut/ursa - I recommend reading over http://github.com/zorbathut/ursa to see if it's roughly what you're looking for |
| 05:56.38 | Thrae | Weeeeel that didn't work. I'll need to learn how to better identify the packets. |
| 05:56.53 | ZorbaTHut | I don't recommend using it right now, but I'm hoping to get a 0.1 release in April, maybe March if I can get some free time |
| 05:57.02 | ZorbaTHut | (it's missing parallel builds right now which is kind of a major feature :P) |
| 05:57.08 | eidolarr | i don't have a choice right now |
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| 06:17.29 | Silversage | Heyo. |
| 06:18.26 | Cairenn | hey Silversage |
| 06:18.42 | DWSR | I just yelled Leeroy Jenkins in TF2. |
| 06:18.43 | DWSR | Oh my god. |
| 06:18.59 | DWSR | Was probably the most epic feeling ever. |
| 06:19.01 | Thunder_Child | very sad DWSR |
| 06:19.08 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: It really wasn't, though |
| 06:19.12 | DWSR | Because it was awesome |
| 06:19.28 | Thunder_Child | ~epic fail DWSR |
| 06:19.29 | purl | DWSR, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you DWSR, you are that epic failure. |
| 06:19.29 | Adys | its pretty sad, I agree with TC |
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| 06:26.27 | DWSR | meh. |
| 06:26.39 | DWSR | You think it's sad because you've never had a moment in your life where it was awesome enough to utter those words. |
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| 06:30.07 | Cairenn | morning Zyonin |
| 06:30.37 | Thunder_Child | if you are part of a squad of people assaulting a drug cartel stronghold and you run in byourself guns blazing then maybe you would be awesome (read: stupid) enough to say that |
| 06:34.59 | Jerub | is anyone here a wowhead.com person? i'm seeing crap in the data and i'd like to point it out to someone... |
| 06:35.19 | Cairenn | Jerub: what's up? |
| 06:35.38 | Cairenn | hang tight a minute, please? |
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| 06:35.43 | Adys | Jerub: boo, fizz, whyareyounotusingmydb and stuff |
| 06:35.56 | Jerub | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50627 says it drops from ICC 25N and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50195 the non-H version doesn't say which type of ICC it drops from. |
| 06:36.03 | Jerub | Adys: linked from quickarmory.com |
| 06:36.13 | Cairenn | Adys: boo hiss, why do you work for those people :p |
| 06:36.26 | Jerub | Adys: go make something better than quickarmory.com |
| 06:36.35 | Adys | Cairenn: because being paid by a company beats being promised payment by another :P |
| 06:36.40 | Jerub | by 'better' i mean 'identical' |
| 06:36.54 | Cairenn | Adys: details |
| 06:36.56 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:37.14 | Adys | no :P |
| 06:37.37 | Cairenn | as in "piffle, minor details, unimportant" |
| 06:38.13 | Adys | no, as in "I'd like to still be able to talk in this channel one hour from now" :P |
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| 06:38.28 | Cairenn | nm, you're missing what I meant |
| 06:38.31 | Cairenn | I was teasing you |
| 06:38.39 | Adys | I wasnt :) |
| 06:38.43 | Cairenn | I know |
| 06:38.48 | Cairenn | I also know, remember? |
| 06:38.52 | Adys | Ya |
| 06:39.32 | Jerub | Adys: no, for real, make quickarmory.com but better |
| 06:39.45 | Adys | Jerub, to be fully honest with you |
| 06:39.52 | Adys | I've thought about making an armory importer |
| 06:40.03 | Adys | but the very thought of working with xml... BLIZZARD's xml... ugh |
| 06:40.04 | Adys | no thanks |
| 06:40.38 | Jerub | Adys: have you seen the source of http://quickarmory.com/?n=lithyne&r=Dath%27Remar ? |
| 06:40.55 | Adys | son of a twat |
| 06:41.01 | Adys | why did you make me look at this |
| 06:41.02 | Adys | WTF |
| 06:41.07 | Adys | WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE |
| 06:42.06 | Adys | ugh |
| 06:42.17 | nevcairiel | Adys: you ping me at 4 am? wtf are you even doing up at that time? :P |
| 06:42.26 | Adys | yeah no Jerub this is exactly the kind of shit why I dont want to deal with :P |
| 06:42.40 | Adys | nevcairiel: Im on an US timer atm, leaving for chicago soonish |
| 06:42.57 | nevcairiel | heh, doing the jetlag before the flight, eh |
| 06:42.57 | Adys | also I had iteration issues but I fixed that |
| 06:43.57 | Adys | sorta |
| 06:44.11 | Jerub | actually, it's features like this i'd like to see (but better) in an armory site: http://quickarmory.com/?n=brandi&r=Dath%27Remar |
| 06:44.14 | Jerub | that's my own toon |
| 06:44.41 | Jerub | it actually notices you're in different spec and gear and will show you what gear you had in the other spec |
| 06:45.15 | Adys | Jerub: There's someone in this channel working on an armory profiler but I've no idea how much of a secret thats supposed to be |
| 06:45.31 | Adys | so I'm sure youll get to harrass him :P |
| 06:45.34 | Jerub | someone in this channel working on an armory profiler: steal ideas |
| 06:45.56 | Adys | I dont get why there are so many armory profilers |
| 06:46.02 | Jerub | man, i can't believe i'm still wearing that cloak from IC5H |
| 06:46.09 | Jerub | Adys: because they all suck? |
| 06:46.46 | Jerub | i mean, i use be.imba.hu for checking/verifying enchants, i use quickarmory for gear and achievement checking, i use the official one for achievement browsing.... |
| 06:48.40 | Adys | shrugs |
| 06:48.55 | Jerub | oh, and none of the handle druids properly :/ |
| 06:49.11 | Adys | Ill work on a talent calculator when i get back from the US |
| 06:49.16 | Adys | I already got all the data I need |
| 06:49.19 | Jerub | wowhead has one that works. |
| 06:49.23 | Jerub | i like it. |
| 06:49.23 | Jerub | :P |
| 06:49.47 | Adys | wowhead's doesn't support cataclysm |
| 06:49.48 | Adys | :P |
| 06:49.58 | Jerub | hah, cataclysm. |
| 06:50.02 | Jerub | i'm trying not to think about that |
| 06:50.08 | Jerub | i only just got my first alt to 75 |
| 06:50.22 | Adys | Jerub, you're talking to someone who doesn't have alts |
| 06:50.41 | Jerub | Adys: what's your main? |
| 06:50.58 | Adys | Jerub: A level 80 world of warcraft character |
| 06:51.24 | Jerub | Adys: hah |
| 06:51.25 | Adys | I just play my mage basically |
| 06:51.32 | Adys | although ive started lvling a rogue for the lockboxes... |
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| 06:51.43 | Adys | I think I'm up to 500 days /played by now |
| 06:51.58 | Jerub | i was asking what your class was, not your toon's name and realm. |
| 06:51.58 | Jerub | :P |
| 06:52.11 | Adys | likely a lot more if you count the mules |
| 06:52.14 | Jerub | so i take it you raid :P |
| 06:52.25 | Adys | no, raiding is fucking terrible |
| 06:53.05 | Jerub | uh. okay? |
| 06:53.14 | Jerub | so what's the thing you like doing in wow? |
| 06:53.26 | Adys | working on a db? :P |
| 06:53.43 | Jerub | heh |
| 06:53.43 | Adys | i havent been truly playing since tbc |
| 06:54.10 | Adys | Jerub: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodhoof&cn=Adys&gn=Lords+of+the+Zodiac |
| 06:54.48 | Adys | hahah |
| 06:54.48 | Adys | my belt enchant |
| 06:54.51 | Adys | nice deprecation bro |
| 06:55.13 | Adys | man blizzard is terrible with this |
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| 06:55.48 | Adys | (only shows in list moe) |
| 06:55.50 | Adys | mode even |
| 06:56.17 | nevcairiel | you've been doing AQ, eh |
| 06:56.34 | Adys | Im testing some theory about the rings |
| 06:56.40 | Adys | and I need scarabs to change path |
| 06:57.29 | Shirik | I'll show you my rings |
| 06:57.32 | Jerub | Adys: last time i reported a problem with tooltips (zzOLDENCHANT Mongoose or somesuch) it took the armory team 4 weeks to get back to me asking for a screenshot. |
| 06:58.07 | nevcairiel | Considering the amount of silly reports they probably get |
| 06:58.41 | Adys | Jerub: last time I asked them to add some data so I can finally reverse engineer some armory-specific flags, they blatantly ignored my mail =[ |
| 06:59.08 | Shirik | NAGIOS WHY DO YOU FAIL ME |
| 06:59.14 | Adys | MY NAME IS NOT NAGIOS |
| 06:59.18 | Shirik | 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable503 Service Temporarily Unavailable503 Service Temporarily Unavailable503 Service Temporarily Unavailable503 Service Temporarily Unavailable |
| 06:59.23 | Shirik | YOU DID NOT TELL ME |
| 06:59.52 | Shirik | oh, it's in a soft state. It must have just happened >.> |
| 07:00.09 | Shirik | odd coincidence |
| 07:00.58 | Shirik | man that was wierd |
| 07:01.07 | Shirik | service went down for like 10 seconds. I haven't accessed it in literally a month |
| 07:01.15 | Shirik | but the exact moment I tried to access it was during those 10 seconds |
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| 07:01.20 | Jerub | okay |
| 07:01.35 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.45 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:02.10 | Shirik | wow |
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| 07:05.58 | Adys | Will you marry me shirik? |
| 07:06.24 | Shirik | I had an extremely witty remark, but it was too inappropriate to say aloud |
| 07:07.25 | Thunder_Child | uh...what are you talking about |
| 07:07.46 | Thunder_Child | this channel has an exceedingly high tolerence on what can be said |
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| 07:13.57 | Shirik | regardless of this channel's tolerance, I do not push myself to those limits |
| 07:16.54 | Thunder_Child | what is the phrase, "a persons reach should always exceed their grasp" or some such |
| 07:17.59 | Shirik | ? |
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| 07:18.40 | Thunder_Child | my point is that you should try to see what your limits are |
| 07:18.49 | Thunder_Child | if you have any that is |
| 07:20.37 | Shirik | I've already hit them quite a few times |
| 07:20.43 | Shirik | and that does not make me very happy |
| 07:21.14 | nevcairiel | Don't people usually like going to their limits? |
| 07:21.34 | tekkub | depends on the limit |
| 07:21.35 | krka | that duff-link was awesome btw |
| 07:21.43 | Shirik | not when it makes you a worse person |
| 07:22.01 | nevcairiel | maybe thats already over your limit, then? |
| 07:22.03 | tekkub | how long I can go without food? no |
| 07:22.14 | tekkub | how long I can go without cumming, hells yea |
| 07:22.28 | Shirik | how long can tekkub go without bacon |
| 07:22.29 | Shirik | go |
| 07:22.39 | nevcairiel | not one second |
| 07:22.39 | Thunder_Child | -1 |
| 07:22.52 | Thunder_Child | speaking of which |
| 07:22.55 | tekkub | why do you think I have a perpetual bacon machine? |
| 07:22.57 | tekkub | GUH |
| 07:22.58 | Thunder_Child | tekkub: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/sciencemath/d4a0/ |
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| 07:25.26 | krka | damn, sweden fails at hockey |
| 07:25.42 | tekkub | but they totally win at sex at six |
| 07:25.52 | krka | O_o |
| 07:26.35 | tekkub | Ska vi ha sex klockan sex? |
| 07:28.13 | krka | no thanks O_o |
| 07:28.26 | Cide| | fail game |
| 07:28.44 | krka | didn't even get beat by any of the big nations |
| 07:28.55 | krka | i would have accepted usa, canada or russia |
| 07:29.04 | ccox | Grrrr. Levelling a tank is quicker than waiting for one in LFG. |
| 07:29.07 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/#6676538 |
| 07:29.12 | Jerub | ccox: it's true |
| 07:29.20 | Jerub | but before LFD levelling a tank was hell. |
| 07:30.09 | ccox | true, now trying to pug a dps is hell |
| 07:30.29 | Jerub | http://translationparty.com/#6676550 |
| 07:30.46 | Jerub | ccox: this will reach an equilibrium state hopefully one day |
| 07:30.53 | ccox | I hope so |
| 07:30.58 | Jerub | what i don't understand is why people make non-tank DKs |
| 07:31.07 | Jerub | it ret paladins below level 08 |
| 07:31.09 | Jerub | er 80 |
| 07:31.28 | Jerub | i've yet to see a balance druid but i've seen feral dps druids |
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| 07:31.56 | Jerub | http://translationparty.com/#6676562 |
| 07:32.19 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/#6676567 |
| 07:32.30 | Shirik | ok Jerub wins |
| 07:33.24 | Cide| | http://translationparty.com/#6676575 |
| 07:33.46 | Arrowmaster | i find it more amusing that google finds starcraft to be a proper noun and capitalizes it |
| 07:34.21 | Cide| | http://translationparty.com/#6676586 |
| 07:34.27 | krka | omg cide, it doesn't even have loop detection |
| 07:34.35 | Cide| | nope |
| 07:34.39 | krka | my grandmother can write a loop detection algorithm :/ |
| 07:34.58 | Jerub | my grandmother's dead. but my grandfather could. |
| 07:35.00 | Cide| | that's right. you SC2'ers fail at life |
| 07:35.01 | krka | hm, maybe she couldn't actually, she's getting old and dement |
| 07:36.24 | Cide| | http://translationparty.com/#6676604 |
| 07:37.00 | Cide| | ^ krka |
| 07:37.14 | Jerub | that's so meta |
| 07:38.09 | krka | LOL |
| 07:38.15 | Jerub | http://translationparty.com/#6676614 |
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| 07:40.04 | Jerub | http://notalwaysright.com/catcher-in-the-sky/4417 |
| 07:46.23 | DWSR | !g define:meta |
| 07:46.24 | batbot | DWSR: no results |
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| 07:57.17 | Adys | Shirik, ping |
| 07:57.21 | Shirik | WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME |
| 07:57.29 | Adys | A FUCKING BLOWJOB OK |
| 07:57.35 | Adys | also a question |
| 07:57.38 | zenzio | "There's a fantastic little story in the Guardian today that says a US lobby group is trying to get the US government to consider open source as the equivalent to piracy." - gogo America |
| 07:57.42 | Adys | Cide, maybe you're good with this one too |
| 07:57.53 | Adys | [09:53:13] <Adys> What's the most efficient way to read a null-terminated string in a binary file? should i index data from the cursor or append to a string, or append to a list a join it, etc |
| 07:58.20 | Cide | in python? |
| 07:58.26 | Shirik | SSE |
| 07:58.34 | Shirik | SSE5 has string functions |
| 07:58.36 | Adys | in python yeah, but I guess it's a general question |
| 07:58.46 | zenzio | SSE5 - is that common in all CPUs yet? |
| 07:58.58 | Shirik | um |
| 07:59.03 | Shirik | I'm not even sure it's released yet |
| 07:59.10 | zenzio | then don't advice using it :-p |
| 07:59.29 | Shirik | oh sorry, it's SSE4 |
| 07:59.30 | Shirik | not SSE5 |
| 07:59.53 | Shirik | SSE4.2 to be specific, implemented in the Intel i7 |
| 08:00.28 | Cide | in python I'd probably do something akin to: repeatedly read x bytes, unpack it as a string (struct.unpack("%ds" % x)), scan for \0 |
| 08:00.29 | Adys | how do those even help reading a null terminated string |
| 08:00.32 | Shirik | most efficient way to read a null-terminated string eh? |
| 08:00.51 | Shirik | how does appending to a string help you in reading it? |
| 08:00.54 | Shirik | Your question seems to be illogical |
| 08:01.24 | Adys | i guess this is more of a python question since strings are immutable |
| 08:01.25 | Adys | but |
| 08:01.32 | Adys | create an empty string, append to it while reading and comparing to \0 |
| 08:01.33 | Adys | OR |
| 08:01.39 | Cide | no |
| 08:01.42 | Adys | create an empty list, append to it, join at the end |
| 08:01.49 | Cide | that if anything |
| 08:01.56 | Cide | but neither is optimal |
| 08:02.01 | Sixen | ohai |
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| 08:03.17 | Adys | Cide: how's a read block + scan better? |
| 08:03.31 | Cide | fewer string objects created |
| 08:03.47 | Adys | hm |
| 08:03.56 | Cide | is it really that performance critical though? |
| 08:04.06 | Adys | not airplane-critical no |
| 08:04.07 | Cide | if so you should drop down to c :P |
| 08:04.17 | Adys | yeah obviously |
| 08:04.19 | Adys | but |
| 08:04.27 | Adys | this is a cleanup of my wdbc parser |
| 08:04.36 | Adys | a recode actually |
| 08:04.45 | Adys | I implemented preload in 20 lines and it works like sex |
| 08:05.12 | zenzio | quick and dirty? |
| 08:05.38 | Adys | painless and perfect |
| 08:05.54 | Cide | disease- and bug-ridden? |
| 08:06.05 | Adys | 4/10 |
| 08:06.30 | Cide | l = [] while True { temp = struct.unpack("16c", f.read(32)) i = temp.index("\0") if i != -1 { temp = temp[:i] } l.append(temp) } str = "".join(temp) |
| 08:06.31 | Cide | er |
| 08:06.36 | Cide | should be .join(l) in the end |
| 08:06.46 | Cide | and should be 32c obviously |
| 08:07.16 | Cide | and with a break inside the if statement |
| 08:08.14 | Adys | Cide: is the gain important compared to appending to a list? |
| 08:08.16 | Shirik | that's not python |
| 08:08.18 | Shirik | you need more whitespace |
| 08:08.53 | Cide | you create a lot fewer strings |
| 08:09.08 | Cide | which is ideal |
| 08:09.51 | Cide | and yes, appending to a list is better than appending to a string |
| 08:10.02 | Cide | especially if you do it 1 character at a time |
| 08:10.09 | Adys | that much i guessed |
| 08:10.26 | Adys | creating fewer strings is more of a memory improvement than speed no? |
| 08:10.31 | Cide | not really |
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| 08:11.14 | Cide | the key being that str.index() is C, as is slicing, list.append(), str.join(), etc |
| 08:11.15 | Cide | n |
| 08:11.18 | Cide | not sure about unpack |
| 08:11.19 | Shirik | btw Adys, to answer your question |
| 08:11.27 | Adys | unpack is C too |
| 08:11.31 | Shirik | the SSE4.2 instructions are very powerful for string copying, despite their appearance |
| 08:12.13 | Shirik | it is much faster to attempt to copy a block at once rather than do it one piece at a time. By determining the length first, you can do the entire block |
| 08:12.18 | Adys | not that I'd have access to them in python, but how would they help me indexing a string? |
| 08:12.32 | Shirik | I didn't read your question entirely before I answered |
| 08:12.37 | Shirik | I saw "efficiency" and "string" and answered SSE |
| 08:12.41 | Adys | ah |
| 08:12.42 | Shirik | :) |
| 08:12.50 | Cide | naturally |
| 08:12.59 | Cide | SSE = "Strings: Super Efficient" |
| 08:13.05 | Shirik | hey |
| 08:13.07 | Shirik | SSE is awesome, ok? |
| 08:13.12 | Shirik | If only people actually USED it |
| 08:13.14 | Adys | SSDs are better |
| 08:13.15 | Cide | like I said, super efficient |
| 08:13.36 | Cide | vs rock pokèmons especially |
| 08:13.52 | Adys | it's pokémon |
| 08:13.58 | Adys | with an ´ |
| 08:14.02 | Adys | not a ` |
| 08:14.07 | Cide | fuck |
| 08:14.13 | Cide | you're right |
| 08:14.18 | Cide | anyway |
| 08:16.12 | Adys | also Cide |
| 08:16.13 | Adys | fu |
| 08:16.19 | Adys | you dont use l as variable name |
| 08:16.20 | Adys | EVER |
| 08:16.26 | Cide | for a temporary list, yes you do |
| 08:16.32 | Adys | no, you use li |
| 08:16.43 | Cide | if you're into lisp maybe |
| 08:16.49 | Cide | (wait what?) |
| 08:17.00 | Adys | l looks like @ |
| 08:17.03 | Adys | l looks like 1 |
| 08:17.06 | Cide | what? |
| 08:17.15 | Cide | get a proper font |
| 08:17.19 | Adys | you dont use it alone, ever |
| 08:17.20 | Adys | anywhere |
| 08:17.26 | Cide | ask Shirik |
| 08:17.32 | Adys | Shirik, oh Shirik |
| 08:17.34 | Adys | back me up |
| 08:17.34 | Shirik | don't ask me |
| 08:17.41 | Adys | IM ASKING YOU ALREADY |
| 08:17.41 | Shirik | what are we asking |
| 08:17.48 | Cide | <Adys> you dont use l as variable name |
| 08:17.48 | Cide | <Adys> EVER |
| 08:17.52 | Cide | true or false |
| 08:18.08 | Shirik | depends on its context |
| 08:18.12 | Cide | so false |
| 08:18.13 | Adys | YOUR MOMMA |
| 08:18.15 | Adys | just answer true |
| 08:18.20 | Shirik | if it's a counter or an extremely localized variable, I see no issue with it |
| 08:18.21 | Cide | it's for a temporary LIST |
| 08:18.28 | Adys | Shirik |
| 08:18.36 | Adys | Im on the basis that l alone looks like a 1 to some people |
| 08:18.39 | Shirik | extremely localized == scope is no greater than 2-3 lines |
| 08:18.49 | Adys | this isnt about using 1-letter variables |
| 08:18.52 | Shirik | too bad |
| 08:18.56 | Adys | it's about using l-letter variables |
| 08:18.57 | Shirik | programming languages are not multilingual |
| 08:19.08 | Shirik | get a better font |
| 08:19.13 | Cide | YES |
| 08:19.13 | Adys | I got a great font |
| 08:19.17 | Cide | <Cide> get a proper font |
| 08:19.19 | Adys | I got a great font |
| 08:19.24 | Adys | l and 1 dont look anything alike |
| 08:19.26 | Adys | BUT |
| 08:19.28 | Adys | not to everyone |
| 08:19.30 | Cide | there you go |
| 08:19.35 | Shirik | (03:19:06) (+Cide) <Cide> get a proper font |
| 08:19.35 | Cide | who codes for retards anyway? |
| 08:19.35 | Adys | and out of respect I dont use l |
| 08:19.47 | Shirik | Ok |
| 08:19.53 | Shirik | Why can't I use "pour" for "for" loops? |
| 08:19.54 | Shirik | hmm? |
| 08:20.11 | Cide | #define pour for |
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| 08:20.18 | Silversage | Adys: You think "1" and "1" look alike?? |
| 08:20.30 | Cide | I do, actually |
| 08:20.30 | olafski | :P |
| 08:20.31 | Adys | pour chaque x dans Shirik: |
| 08:20.43 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.55 | Shirik | lua> assert(false) |
| 08:20.58 | Shirik | wait |
| 08:20.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: assertion failed! |
| 08:20.59 | Shirik | no |
| 08:21.03 | Cide | haha |
| 08:21.06 | olafski | heh |
| 08:21.07 | Shirik | damn it |
| 08:21.23 | Shirik | I did not expect adys to give me a compliment |
| 08:21.23 | olafski | though why not "affirme pas x.stupide()"? |
| 08:21.40 | olafski | I don't think it was a compliment |
| 08:21.49 | Shirik | it was |
| 08:21.53 | Adys | because I want to assert that shirik isn't stupid once for every braincell he has |
| 08:22.00 | Adys | not that every braincell he has isn't stupid |
| 08:22.03 | Adys | that's a lost cause |
| 08:22.15 | olafski | hm I guess you could see that as a compliment ;) |
| 08:22.32 | Adys | it's not completely degrading, which is better than nothing |
| 08:22.44 | Shirik | I expected it to say every brain cell is stupid |
| 08:22.53 | Shirik | well every "x" |
| 08:22.59 | Shirik | which you later identified to be brain cells |
| 08:23.04 | Adys | goto dtc |
| 08:23.21 | Shirik | look |
| 08:23.22 | Adys | (nobody's gonna get that joke, but it's extremely funny believe me) |
| 08:23.23 | Shirik | fact of the matter is |
| 08:23.33 | Shirik | someone invents a language, you build an IDe |
| 08:23.46 | Shirik | you don't go make this IDE and make it difficult to discern between programming constructs |
| 08:23.51 | Shirik | and then complain to the program designers |
| 08:23.56 | Shirik | you use it right in the first place |
| 08:24.11 | Shirik | i.e., use a font that makes sense for your application |
| 08:24.22 | olafski | I code in arial |
| 08:24.28 | olafski | l and 1 look nothing alike :) |
| 08:24.36 | zenzio | any editor that doesn't let you change the font to your own tastes is stupid anyway |
| 08:24.52 | zenzio | and probably 20 years old |
| 08:25.18 | Adys | i dunno its set in stone here, I just dont use l or I as variable names |
| 08:25.26 | Adys | i use i, j, k, h, d, all the time |
| 08:25.32 | Shirik | Don't use j |
| 08:25.35 | Shirik | j == sqrt(-1) |
| 08:25.39 | Adys | actually not h but whatever |
| 08:25.43 | olafski | wasn't that i? |
| 08:25.48 | Shirik | j! |
| 08:25.52 | Cide | yes it was |
| 08:25.53 | Cide | and is |
| 08:25.55 | Cide | and always will be |
| 08:26.01 | Adys | Cide: or will it? |
| 08:26.02 | Shirik | Hey Cide |
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| 08:26.03 | Cide | we don't care about your current |
| 08:26.07 | Shirik | Do you need me to break out the matlab? |
| 08:26.11 | Shirik | here here |
| 08:26.11 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5479632/killer-whales-violent-past-includes-deadly-attack-on-ultima+obsessed-drifter |
| 08:26.12 | Shirik | let me help youy |
| 08:26.16 | olafski | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit :-) |
| 08:26.21 | krka | eh shirik, what if your domain never deals with imaginary numbers? |
| 08:26.25 | krka | is "j" still restricted? |
| 08:26.33 | Shirik | it was more of a joke to provoke an argument :) |
| 08:26.38 | Cide | > sqrt(-1); ==> I |
| 08:26.40 | Shirik | I actually use j a lot |
| 08:26.41 | Cide | maple |
| 08:26.43 | Shirik | especially in vectors |
| 08:26.43 | krka | YOU are the joke that provokes arguments! |
| 08:26.48 | Adys | Shirik: and this is more of an argument to ruin the joke |
| 08:26.58 | Shirik | YOU are an argument to ruin the joke |
| 08:27.16 | Adys | yes, yes i am |
| 08:28.16 | Shirik | >> j^2 |
| 08:28.16 | Shirik | ans = |
| 08:28.16 | Shirik | -1 |
| 08:28.18 | Shirik | oh snap |
| 08:28.19 | Shirik | what NOW |
| 08:28.27 | Cide | If I were in your loop, you are my loop, loop the loop speaking, I want to hear the loop |
| 08:29.32 | Shirik | anyway olafski, j is sqrt(-1) because i conflicts with current |
| 08:29.40 | Shirik | it is mostly limited to electrical/computer engineers like myself |
| 08:29.45 | Shirik | but we rule the world anyway |
| 08:29.47 | Shirik | so what we say goes |
| 08:29.50 | Cide | sure you do |
| 08:30.23 | olafski | interesting hypothesis.. electrical engineers rule the world |
| 08:30.30 | Shirik | and yes, it is important to disambiguate current and the imaginary number because AC is often represented using imaginary numbers |
| 08:31.04 | olafski | Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review and where he received a doctorate in law. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. |
| 08:31.10 | krka | you conflict with current? nice! |
| 08:31.11 | olafski | seems at least the US isn't ruled by an electrical engineer! |
| 08:31.23 | Shirik | no |
| 08:31.26 | Shirik | it's ruled by a spammer |
| 08:31.30 | olafski | I don't conflict with current at all.. I conflict with the past all the time though |
| 08:31.40 | Shirik | somehow obama got my email address and keeps sending me emails |
| 08:31.50 | olafski | that bastard |
| 08:33.05 | Shirik | okisleepnowbai |
| 08:33.15 | Cide | bai |
| 08:33.31 | olafski | bey |
| 08:34.35 | Cide | okay |
| 08:34.39 | Cide | sorry for the spam |
| 08:34.44 | Cide | but this is an interesting one |
| 08:34.46 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/#6677013 |
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| 08:35.11 | Cide | @ Cairenn|afk |
| 08:35.55 | Shirik | you could try not including the typo! |
| 08:36.04 | Shirik | however that is awesome |
| 08:36.21 | Shirik | everything revolves around Cairenn|afk |
| 08:37.06 | Cide | bleh |
| 08:37.12 | Cide | not as fun without the typo apparently |
| 08:37.17 | Cide | oh well |
| 08:38.35 | Adys | At this point, my own people, one of the ethnic Karen people in two days, two people two people two people two or three people here one by one, two two most small one one is to understand that it will be updated as people |
| 08:38.39 | Adys | How the fuck does that happen? |
| 08:39.29 | olafski | I think because Karen sounds phonetically the same as "curren" |
| 08:39.34 | olafski | just a guess though |
| 08:39.46 | olafski | eh. if you were wondering about Karen >_< |
| 08:39.50 | Adys | nevermind Karen, what the fuck happened to the rest of the sentence? |
| 08:40.17 | olafski | I think the mechanical turk is stuttering |
| 08:40.33 | Adys | At this point, ethnic Karen people about my own people, one morning, two people, two people two or three people to understand here is one that is updated two as one by one people, one Many people have a small one |
| 08:40.34 | Adys | LOL |
| 08:41.00 | Adys | Cide you hear that? Cairenn thinks you have a small one |
| 08:41.07 | Silversage | >.< No point even asking for a code review from this crowd. Have fun and g'night, all! |
| 08:41.07 | Adys | Kalroth: you too baby! |
| 08:41.13 | Cide | haha, yep |
| 08:41.27 | Adys | Silversage: you can always ask :P |
| 08:41.32 | olafski | you asked for something? oO |
| 08:41.47 | Silversage | Adys: I could. And chose not to. :D |
| 08:42.26 | Adys | you know Shirik |
| 08:42.33 | Adys | I still have the japaneseish music from that game |
| 08:44.38 | Silversage | Actually, if anyone wants to take a look, I pasted it on http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133444 . About 100 lines. But I gotta get to bed, so would have to wait until tomorrow for comments. |
| 08:45.01 | Silversage | Based on Tekkub's (??) idea for Buffet. |
| 08:49.03 | Adys | well Cide |
| 08:49.06 | Adys | it works \o/ |
| 08:49.10 | Adys | I just gotta implement writing now |
| 08:49.24 | Cide | which algorithm works? |
| 08:49.34 | Adys | my wdb/dbc parser, recoded |
| 09:00.05 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/02/25/funny-pictures-ice-fishing-kitteh/ |
| 09:02.59 | olafski | haha |
| 09:03.01 | olafski | nice :D |
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| 10:59.42 | Wobin | hum |
| 10:59.58 | Wobin | Mind Amplification Dish, or Stalwart Defender on my hat? |
| 11:05.06 | Cide | or both? |
| 11:06.05 | Kaso | for tanking i presume? the extra mitigation from the defense prob outweighs the 8 stam bonus |
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| 11:23.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | is the google dns slow today? all 5 browsers I use are just slowing to a crawl |
| 11:25.09 | Wobin | Kaso, for my bear |
| 11:25.22 | Wobin | Cide, Can you put both? I thought the dish counted as an enchant |
| 11:25.31 | Cide | probably not |
| 11:25.33 | Cide | I was trolling you |
| 11:25.37 | Wobin | oh |
| 11:25.38 | Wobin | =( |
| 11:25.48 | Wobin | I expected it from Fisker |
| 11:25.52 | Wobin | but not from you, Cide =( |
| 11:25.59 | Wobin | ~shame cide |
| 11:26.00 | purl | Shame on you cide! |
| 11:26.52 | Cide | he taught me well |
| 11:27.17 | Adys | Cide this is working :D |
| 11:27.29 | Wobin | hm |
| 11:27.36 | Wobin | I can't wear the argent crusade enchant anyway |
| 11:27.43 | Wobin | I should go start the faction =P |
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| 11:32.46 | Adys | Cide: so yeah, over 75000 rows and about 5MB of text, it speeds up parse by 4 seconds |
| 11:32.56 | Cide | nice |
| 11:32.57 | Adys | (from 12 to 8 seconds) |
| 11:36.51 | Adys | it's still a lot but I don't see how I can optimize this further in python |
| 11:39.14 | zenzio | is it something you would run often? |
| 11:39.22 | Adys | once a patch :P |
| 11:39.35 | zenzio | then I'd say even 12 seconds don't matter |
| 11:39.41 | zenzio | though it's still fun to play with |
| 11:39.49 | Adys | ya thats mostly it |
| 11:40.06 | Kaso | "The First Rule of Program Optimization: Don't do it. The Second Rule of Program Optimization (for experts only!): Don't do it yet." |
| 11:40.06 | Adys | surprisingly, my old parser wasn't a lot slower |
| 11:40.20 | Adys | it was like 14 seconds avg |
| 11:41.04 | Adys | which is a feat, knowing that I coded this two years ago and it was using lists and pseudo-cached reads |
| 11:41.19 | Adys | and is really terrible code :P |
| 11:41.56 | Adys | though public parsers are terrible |
| 11:42.20 | Adys | some others i found on the net average between 50 and 130 seconds for the same file |
| 11:42.27 | Adys | wowhead's averages 30 seconds |
| 11:44.12 | Cide | mine averages over 9000 microseconds |
| 11:44.34 | Adys | that's pretty much what she told me yes |
| 11:47.36 | Cide | ohsnap |
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| 12:06.52 | Adys | Cide |
| 12:07.20 | Cide | Adys: |
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| 12:30.19 | Adys | dammit. |
| 12:30.35 | Adys | Cide, nevcairiel, how do I morph into another class after __init__ has passed? |
| 12:31.23 | Cide | obj.__class__ = OtherClass |
| 12:31.47 | Cide | you can only change what class is created during __new__ |
| 12:31.52 | Cide | after that you can change class |
| 12:31.56 | Cide | as above |
| 12:32.09 | Adys | hm its that simple? |
| 12:32.19 | Cide | class Foo: def foo(self): print "a" |
| 12:32.23 | Cide | class Bar: def foo(self): print "b" |
| 12:32.25 | Cide | c = Foo() |
| 12:32.29 | Cide | c.__class__ = Bar |
| 12:32.32 | Cide | c.foo() => "b" |
| 12:32.41 | Adys | neat stuff |
| 12:32.55 | Adys | ~python++ |
| 12:33.02 | Adys | hm |
| 12:33.05 | Adys | ~karma python |
| 12:33.05 | purl | python has karma of 15 |
| 12:33.07 | Adys | ~karma php |
| 12:33.07 | purl | php has karma of 1 |
| 12:33.11 | Cide | ~php-- |
| 12:33.12 | Adys | yeah no wonder |
| 12:33.57 | Adys | ~karma perl |
| 12:33.57 | purl | perl has karma of 1 |
| 12:34.05 | Adys | this cannot possibly be a coincidence |
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| 13:07.18 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.22 | Kaso | http://www.staringispolite.com/likepython/ |
| 13:11.42 | foxlit | Kaso: just null tokens? |
| 13:12.06 | Kaso | yeah |
| 13:12.29 | Kaso | i prefer INTERCAL where the compiler will error if you're not polite enough |
| 13:12.31 | Kaso | or too polite |
| 13:13.12 | Kaso | PLEASE READ OUT |
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| 14:38.23 | amro | mikma: that's awesome |
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| 15:19.48 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/02/24/lg-logo.jpg |
| 15:20.14 | olafski | haha very nice |
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| 15:21.26 | Silversage | Heyo. |
| 15:21.29 | Ackis | bah now I'm hungry for some ghosts :( |
| 15:21.37 | olafski | herro |
| 15:22.25 | Ackis | so I haven't checked on my minicity in a while... the poor people of that city :( |
| 15:23.06 | olafski | what be a minicity |
| 15:23.12 | olafski | I haven't checked on my Tropicans for a while :( |
| 15:23.13 | Ackis | http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra |
| 15:23.21 | Ackis | it's like an online link spam game |
| 15:23.34 | Silversage | Anyone have time for a quick code review? Shade over 100 lines of new code. |
| 15:24.09 | olafski | oh bah linkspam |
| 15:24.38 | Ackis | Tropicans? like Tropico 3? |
| 15:24.45 | olafski | yes |
| 15:24.54 | olafski | finished half the missions I think |
| 15:24.55 | Gagorian | Silversage: Well pastey it and link it. If anyone has time they will answer :) |
| 15:25.07 | Ackis | I want to get thta game eventually |
| 15:25.16 | olafski | yeah I want it on the 360 too |
| 15:25.24 | Ackis | I'm currently doing co-op/mp in DoW2, and trying to play MUA (which sucks) |
| 15:25.26 | olafski | hence why I haven't really bothered on pc |
| 15:25.33 | olafski | liar |
| 15:25.36 | Silversage | Gagorian: I have already pasteyed it. I'll link it if someone says, "sure!" |
| 15:25.48 | olafski | good luck with that silversage |
| 15:25.54 | mitch0 | sure! |
| 15:25.56 | Silversage | Oh, all right. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133460 |
| 15:25.57 | olafski | doesn't sound like how irc works :P |
| 15:26.11 | Ackis | ~asktoask |
| 15:26.12 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:26.12 | olafski | oh you had already linked it too, now I remember :P |
| 15:26.16 | Ackis | similar principle here |
| 15:26.21 | Silversage | Well, using wifi on a shuttle isn't how irc works, either. >.< But there it is... |
| 15:26.29 | olafski | I like line 20 |
| 15:27.01 | Silversage | Lines 11-17 aren't much better, tbh. |
| 15:27.01 | olafski | looks much more efficient than "local ORES = {}" |
| 15:27.24 | olafski | you may want to add, in comments, what those IDs correspond with.. just to keep your sanity |
| 15:27.46 | Silversage | Um. More than "These are itemIds"? |
| 15:27.55 | olafski | yeah.. I would anyway |
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| 15:28.37 | Ackis | Silversage: it makes debugging down the road easier |
| 15:29.05 | Silversage | Sorry to be dense, olafski. What are you suggested above and beyond line 10? |
| 15:29.23 | Silversage | Ohhh. You mean which specific herb? |
| 15:29.28 | olafski | yes |
| 15:30.11 | Silversage | Gotcha. Yeah. Thought about that. If I do that, I'll probably move them to a separate file, and put one itemId per line, with its own comment. |
| 15:30.18 | olafski | good idea |
| 15:30.54 | Ackis | @project arl |
| 15:30.54 | Gagorian | You could just iterate over the table to do the change, not bounce it through a function.. not that it matters much if it's run only once but on principle |
| 15:30.54 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), pompachomp (Author), Torhal (Author/Maintainer), Zhinjio (Former author), BWMerlin (Contributor). Updated: 5 hours ago. Tickets: 30/934 |
| 15:31.04 | Ackis | Silversage: look at that project, and how the database is set up |
| 15:31.45 | olafski | I'd keep it in a function tbh |
| 15:31.56 | olafski | not like the overhead of calling an extra function is horrible |
| 15:32.14 | olafski | but line 20 baffled me ;P |
| 15:32.22 | Gagorian | But if he's learning to do a new project it's better to learn how to do it proper |
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| 15:32.29 | Gagorian | Even if it's not important in that case |
| 15:32.29 | Silversage | <-- strong preference for clarity over performance, until performance problems are clear. |
| 15:32.39 | Gagorian | So do something like this: local table = { 1, 2, 3, 4 }; for i,v in ipairs( table ) do table[v] = true; table[i] = nil end |
| 15:33.06 | olafski | I'd say his way is "more proper" than yours gagorian.. but maybe I misunderstood you |
| 15:33.07 | Kaso | The First Rule of Program Optimization: Don't do it. The Second Rule of Program Optimization (for experts only!): Don't do it yet |
| 15:33.20 | olafski | that function makes things more readable imo |
| 15:33.43 | Gagorian | How's it more readable exactly? |
| 15:34.07 | Cide| | it does |
| 15:34.10 | olafski | it groups statements that are related to eachother in a separate function |
| 15:34.20 | krka | short functions are better than long functions |
| 15:34.29 | olafski | even if that function is only called once I'd say it's more easily readable |
| 15:34.31 | Cide| | besides, this is not Silversage's first project :P |
| 15:34.40 | olafski | else you might as well inline every method that only gets called once :) |
| 15:34.41 | Silversage | Tbc, which specific function are we discusing atm? |
| 15:34.49 | olafski | your reverse thingy I think |
| 15:34.54 | Cide| | value to priority or whatever it was called |
| 15:34.57 | olafski | priorityByPosition |
| 15:35.51 | Silversage | Hell, I could specify the map directly. But I thouht for a human reading it, a list in priority order would be clearer than a hand-created assosiative array from itemId to priority. |
| 15:36.20 | Gagorian | Yeah I agree |
| 15:36.29 | Silversage | (Would probably use item level as priority, then, rather than strict index.) |
| 15:37.22 | Gagorian | Well anyway line 20 doesn't need to call it like pointed out earlier :) |
| 15:37.33 | Gagorian | unless you obviously are going to add stuff |
| 15:37.35 | Silversage | And I could gut the function if we didn't care about the order herbs got milled in. |
| 15:38.07 | Silversage | Yah. That's just a placeholder. I could throw all prospecting related stuff away until I have itemIds for it. |
| 15:38.43 | Silversage | Note to self: Attribute basic idea to Tekkub. |
| 15:39.25 | Silversage | Hmm. |
| 15:39.29 | olafski | what does the addon do actually? :$ |
| 15:39.35 | olafski | I didn't feel like reading the lower part |
| 15:39.54 | Torhal | olafski: It's a first version. |
| 15:39.57 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 15:40.19 | Silversage | If you create macros named either "AutoMill" or "AutoProspect" it will keep those macros updated with /cast Milling \n /use item:36907 |
| 15:40.55 | Silversage | So you can have a mix of herbs/ores, bind the macro to a key, and mash while watching TV. |
| 15:41.20 | olafski | torhal: aha! first version is something I can work with |
| 15:41.31 | Silversage | It's teh slightest step above what you can do by hand-writing your own macro. /cast Milling /use Blah /use Blorg /use Blargh |
| 15:41.38 | olafski | torhal: if he reaches 200 first versions I'm going to write a comment and ask what the addon does and when it will be tagged for release ;) |
| 15:42.00 | olafski | pretty neat silversage :) |
| 15:42.35 | Silversage | Smart enough to skip herbs you have a 3-stack of. Not smart enough to skip when you have a 3-stack before your 5-stack. >.< |
| 15:42.45 | Silversage | SHuttle arrived. Gotta run. |
| 15:42.52 | Silversage | Thanks, guys! |
| 15:43.08 | zenzelezz | the space shuttle? zomg |
| 15:49.05 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-g-etgFk80 |
| 15:49.17 | Kaso | when would you want to use SetOverrideBindingSpell without isPrioirty set? |
| 15:49.26 | Kaso | surely you risk fucking up some other addon's binding by doing that |
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| 15:54.34 | olafski | that guy is insane mikma :P |
| 15:56.09 | olafski | haha I'm laughing so loud over the mario kart vid |
| 15:56.34 | mikma | olafski: i absolutely love his videos :D |
| 15:57.11 | olafski | this is awesome |
| 15:57.16 | olafski | imagine if you see him riding in his kart |
| 15:57.19 | olafski | throwing a banana :D |
| 15:59.38 | Ycarene | Is there an addon to help manage paladin blessings? |
| 16:00.05 | Kaso | Pallypower |
| 16:00.12 | Kaso | if you dont have it you should delete your paladin char now! |
| 16:01.12 | Ycarene | Well now |
| 16:01.19 | Ycarene | She's only level 41 |
| 16:01.28 | Kaso | well okay i can allow that ;p |
| 16:01.30 | olafski | pallypower works |
| 16:01.41 | Kaso | but yeah once you start partying with more paladins it helps alot |
| 16:01.59 | Kaso | though i've always thought pallypower could be smarter |
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| 16:03.23 | mikma | olafski: lolo he ran away from the cops |
| 16:03.57 | olafski | yer :D |
| 16:04.00 | olafski | kaso: smarter how? |
| 16:04.08 | olafski | it also works wonders for just one paladin btw, in my opinion |
| 16:05.16 | Torhal | Ycarene: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/ |
| 16:05.20 | Torhal | olafski: ^^ |
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| 16:08.56 | Silversage|work | Can someone please echo the pastey link I sent earlier? |
| 16:12.10 | olafski | <Silversage> Oh, all right. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133460 |
| 16:12.14 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.31 | cog|work | and ohai :) |
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| 16:12.35 | cog|work | morning peppy! |
| 16:12.41 | cog|work | how is u? |
| 16:12.47 | olafski | I considered blessed but decided not to use it torhal.. dunno why anymore :< |
| 16:13.14 | Lopeppeppy | (this is a friend typing for peppy) |
| 16:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | Surgery went well. Have purring cats and pain meds. All is well. |
| 16:13.39 | cog|work | Hi friend :) hope everything went alright |
| 16:14.01 | Silversage|work | Uh oh. I've been out of the loop. Why does a "friend" -- whatever that means in Peppy's context -- have to do Peppy's typing? |
| 16:14.04 | cog|work | =) |
| 16:14.11 | Silversage|work | Surgery? Gack! I *have* been out of the loop. |
| 16:14.12 | cog|work | Silversage|work: she just had hand surgery |
| 16:14.33 | Silversage|work | cog|work: Yeah. I guess that by the word, "surgery". |
| 16:14.37 | theorbtwo | Eeep. |
| 16:14.44 | theorbtwo | Hope she's recovering well. |
| 16:14.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yes - you've been out of the works. |
| 16:14.51 | Lopeppeppy | out of the loop silver |
| 16:14.57 | Silversage|work | I blame "new job". |
| 16:15.07 | cog|work | could use one of those to blame |
| 16:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yes - that is true. |
| 16:15.16 | Silversage|work | "Sage". My friends call me "Sage". Or was that intentional?? |
| 16:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | Cog - can you please tell cairenn & alestane? |
| 16:15.38 | cog|work | sure thing :) |
| 16:15.56 | Lopeppeppy | thank you - buh-bye! |
| 16:16.05 | cog|work | enjoy your meds & kittehs! |
| 16:16.25 | cog|work | Cairenn|afk: ^ |
| 16:16.55 | cog|work | if someone else notices alestane before i do, feel free to preempt me ^^ |
| 16:17.34 | nevcairiel | could task purl with it, you know! |
| 16:17.42 | Cide| | ~botmail for alestane peppy's hand surgery went well! |
| 16:17.54 | cog|work | i had considered that, but seemed so impersonal :P |
| 16:17.58 | Cide| | yeah |
| 16:18.03 | Cide| | but I'm cool like that |
| 16:18.06 | Cide| | pun intended |
| 16:18.56 | cog|work | anyone know how i can make irssi ping me when someone joins a channel? |
| 16:19.11 | mikma | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w74f7NO6fRI chef! :DDDDD |
| 16:20.00 | olafski | hahahah |
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| 16:23.00 | zenzelezz | alestane: peppy said surgery went well but she doesn't love you anymore |
| 16:23.23 | zenzelezz | maybe I was imagining the last part |
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| 16:24.58 | Cide| | possibly |
| 16:24.59 | olafski | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=rPYC-VX7g2E&feature=related :D |
| 16:25.16 | alestane | zenzelezz: I am abundantly informed of that fact. Thank you. |
| 16:28.12 | mikma | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70iOn30ao0&feature=channel |
| 16:29.16 | olafski | lol :D |
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| 16:31.38 | Ycarene | Anyone have issues with altoholic causing crashes when checking mail? |
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| 16:34.52 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:35.19 | Kraps | hey all |
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| 16:37.12 | cog|work | hai2u |
| 16:37.20 | cog|work | btw, peppy's surgery went well |
| 16:37.25 | cog|work | alestane: ^^ |
| 16:37.35 | cog|work | she's home with purring kittehs and pain meds |
| 16:38.07 | Kaso | olafski: pally power should be able to assign buffs to people automatically by assessing people's talents etc. |
| 16:38.15 | olafski | hmm |
| 16:38.18 | olafski | yeah that would be nice |
| 16:38.19 | theorbtwo | Also, a "friend", who was typing on her behalf. |
| 16:38.42 | olafski | if you have 4 paladins does it at least let the prot pala do sanctuary? ;) |
| 16:38.54 | Kaso | yeah |
| 16:39.13 | olafski | since I only do heroics I don't often play with another paladin.. I just have it set up statically |
| 16:39.15 | Kaso | also it'd be nice if it could somewhat handle people who don't have pallypower, assigning them simple commands like "Buff everyone with kings" then whispering that out |
| 16:40.10 | cog|work | If I told you "It's scheduled to ship on the 8th. It goes by overninght, so it should be there by tuesday or wednesday." Would you have any reason to ask what dates Tuesday and Wednesday are? |
| 16:40.34 | cog|work | lern2inference imo |
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| 16:57.00 | Arrowmaster | so i got the steam beta working in wine, its all shinny and stuff |
| 17:02.09 | durcyn | except when the fonts go tits-up |
| 17:02.34 | Lunessa | cog|work: the world needs to L2Interface, bitches. |
| 17:02.48 | Arrowmaster | well the fonts are fucked to hell in the non beta steam ui |
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| 17:05.08 | mikma | olafski: shame this doesn't work here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27NX_MMIkLY |
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| 17:06.59 | Arrowmaster | steam thinks my OS was installed on Dec 31, 1969 |
| 17:07.58 | mikma | wicked |
| 17:08.08 | nevcairiel | your timestamp got nullified |
| 17:08.29 | Arrowmaster | im on wine, i dont think the timestamp exists |
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| 17:08.48 | nevcairiel | then it assumes 0 |
| 17:09.15 | theorbtwo | ...and then does timezone math to make it the day before. |
| 17:09.23 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 17:09.45 | nevcairiel | unit time 0 is 00:00:00 Jan 1st, 1970 in GMT |
| 17:09.50 | nevcairiel | unix* |
| 17:10.31 | olafski | mikma: I assume they transmit a picture of you when you pay so they give you the right order or something |
| 17:11.56 | mikma | olafski: nope, we order from the booth and pay & receive at the last one (first point is not used) |
| 17:12.05 | olafski | ah okay |
| 17:12.37 | mikma | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9yr4urskA#t=1m47s |
| 17:14.41 | olafski | HAHAHAHAH |
| 17:14.56 | mikma | the whole sumo -clip is excellent |
| 17:15.05 | mikma | sumo-wrestling in a roundabout |
| 17:15.34 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: go use your forum mod powers and remove this link http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=298234#post298234 |
| 17:16.42 | nevcairiel | whats so bad about it? |
| 17:17.08 | mikma | nevcairiel: pitbull is abandoned!!!11 |
| 17:17.21 | Arrowmaster | links to an untrusted site |
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| 17:18.45 | Arrowmaster | wrong site but rule 8 pretty much applies to both wowi and curse at all times http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684&postcount=2 |
| 17:18.46 | mikma | filefront, teh bestestest of best |
| 17:19.36 | nevcairiel | so i can't create a zip of a branch and host it on nevcairiel.net? :P |
| 17:19.46 | mikma | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUSo9SEhok <- this clip is awesome :D |
| 17:20.37 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: you could since we trust you, if you are legally allowed by the copyright to host it |
| 17:20.42 | Arrowmaster | which pitbull is ARR |
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| 17:31.19 | Lunessa | Herr Cogenwheelen I need your assistance with setting up my loldps warrior - it's been so long I don't even know what stuff should be on the bars for which stances. |
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| 17:33.21 | amro | Lunessa: taunt is your main DPS button |
| 17:33.34 | Lunessa | amro: hate you so much right now |
| 17:33.58 | amro | that's how you build up rage, yes |
| 17:34.01 | Arrowmaster | bind taunt and MS to the same key |
| 17:34.14 | Arrowmaster | seen it happen before in classic |
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| 17:41.19 | cog|work | Lunessa: i'm not the best person to ask... my bar setup is rather unique |
| 17:41.32 | sacarasc | Is it possible to make (and if it has been done, can someone point me to) an addon which alerts the raid to ones death? |
| 17:41.36 | cog|work | i have everything that can possibly be used in a given stance on my bars |
| 17:41.56 | cog|work | and then macros to do stance dancing for any that can't be used in a given stance |
| 17:42.08 | Kraps | Lunessa: fury? |
| 17:42.15 | nevcairiel | so basically you have every spell constantly visible |
| 17:42.16 | Lunessa | Kraps: Yes. |
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| 17:42.22 | cog|work | nevcairiel: yep |
| 17:42.30 | Kraps | whats the question? |
| 17:42.38 | nevcairiel | that must be ugly |
| 17:42.39 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:42.43 | cog|work | idd |
| 17:42.44 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:42.55 | Lunessa | I'm dusting of the level 62 warrior, just wanted some advice. |
| 17:43.05 | cog|work | a 7x4 grid of buttons bound to the left half of my keyboard |
| 17:43.22 | Kraps | do you have a specific question? :p |
| 17:43.27 | nevcairiel | you dont move with wsad? |
| 17:43.35 | cog|work | and then another 9x4 grid for all of my miscellaneous things (crafting, buffs, situational abilities that shouldn't be accidentally hit with a keybinding, etc.) |
| 17:43.43 | cog|work | nope. all my movement is with my mouse |
| 17:43.49 | nevcairiel | ew, a mouse mover |
| 17:43.53 | cog|work | you say "ew" |
| 17:44.11 | cog|work | but i bet i could beat you in any positioning challenge. |
| 17:44.18 | cog|work | (if there were such a thing) |
| 17:44.18 | nevcairiel | well i guess better then a keyboard turner |
| 17:44.36 | cog|work | hugs his Logitech G7 |
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| 17:44.46 | KarlKFI|work | how do you go backwards? |
| 17:44.50 | cog|work | the back button |
| 17:44.50 | Lunessa | I mostly use a keyboard for "bulk" movement. |
| 17:45.00 | cog|work | and the mouse wheel rocks sideways for strafing |
| 17:45.10 | nevcairiel | that sounds complicated |
| 17:45.12 | cog|work | middle click toggles autorun |
| 17:45.20 | KarlKFI|work | so by mouse you dont mean holding both left and right buttons to go forward |
| 17:45.24 | cog|work | and I use left-right together for quick movements |
| 17:45.44 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5479318/bad-company-2s-pre+owned-sales+stifling-dlc-revealed |
| 17:45.47 | Arrowmaster | "I do understand EA's desire to keep money in their pockets instead of pre-owned game retailers, but surely there's a better way to do it than this." |
| 17:45.48 | Kraps | bloodthirst, ww, hs when above 60 rage Lunessa |
| 17:46.06 | Kraps | fury is real simple |
| 17:46.34 | Lunessa | I figured it was. I just was reading all the abilities last night and the talents and wondering where to go. :) |
| 17:46.52 | KarlKFI|work | Arrowmaster: is that any different that ME2 or dragon age DLC at launch? |
| 17:46.55 | Arrowmaster | YEAH LIKE HOW ABOUT NOT GIVING GAMESTOP EXCLUSIVE PREORDER BONUSES AND INSTEAD REFUSING TO GIVE THEM ANY GAMES AT ALL TO TRY AND PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS! |
| 17:47.38 | Arrowmaster | KarlKFI|work: it is since those maps will likely be included as part of the standard map rotation |
| 17:48.01 | cog|work | Lunessa: Bloodthirst when ready, Whirlwind when ready, Heroic strike when you have > 70 rage, Slam on bloodsurge proc (if you're talented) |
| 17:48.12 | Arrowmaster | people could see their friends getting booted from the game because they dont have the next map in the rotation or something |
| 17:48.12 | cog|work | that's pretty much it... cleave if you like aoe damage |
| 17:48.32 | KarlKFI|work | sounds like more motivation |
| 17:48.32 | Arrowmaster | or the maps might never get played because somebody in the game doesnt have it so it decides to skip it |
| 17:48.35 | Lunessa | cog|work: ok |
| 17:48.36 | KarlKFI|work | which is what they want |
| 17:48.56 | Kraps | Lunessa: level 62 just hits titans grip |
| 17:49.22 | Lunessa | Kraps: Yes. Which I nabbed. |
| 17:49.33 | KarlKFI|work | the whole idea is to cripple the game if it was 2nd hand |
| 17:49.36 | Lunessa | Along with 2 of the heirloom axes with crusader. |
| 17:49.44 | Arrowmaster | paid multiplayer maps in a game with automated matchmaking never made sense to me |
| 17:49.53 | Kraps | cool |
| 17:50.09 | Zyn | PC master race here, I'm getting the maps and shit for free |
| 17:50.39 | Kraps | is pc gaming really dying? |
| 17:50.42 | Arrowmaster | like in halo3 the matchmaking didnt include any of the maps people paid for afaik |
| 17:50.50 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: yes, its already fucking dead |
| 17:50.52 | Arrowmaster | its over |
| 17:50.55 | Kraps | that would make me a sad panda |
| 17:51.10 | nevcairiel | imho playing a FPS on a console is just fail |
| 17:51.14 | Arrowmaster | if a game comes out on both pc and a console, you dont want the pc version |
| 17:51.40 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: now i know you're full of bs |
| 17:51.44 | nevcairiel | or do they use a mouse for console gaming as well now ? :D |
| 17:51.53 | Zyn | at least DICE saw this that PC games are just shitty console ports these days, they put extra care into the PC-version of BF:BC2 |
| 17:52.19 | Arrowmaster | Zyn: whats extra in the pc version? |
| 17:52.30 | nevcairiel | extra care, not extra features |
| 17:53.12 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: there are expensive devices that can let you use a mouse for a console game, it translates mouse movement into joystick movement |
| 17:53.28 | nevcairiel | thats going to suck |
| 17:53.41 | nevcairiel | I just hate playing a FPS with a silly joystick |
| 17:53.44 | nevcairiel | they are mouse games |
| 17:53.49 | durcyn | not all xbox/directx ports are terrible, just most |
| 17:53.53 | Arrowmaster | i just got a set of these and theyre kinda nice http://www.amazon.com/FPS-Freek-Xbox360-Playstation-3/dp/B002R2JCNK |
| 17:54.16 | Arrowmaster | durcyn: they are either terrible or have such shitty DRM you are a sucker if you purchase it |
| 17:54.38 | durcyn | well |
| 17:54.51 | durcyn | i'd rather have a directx port than none at all |
| 17:55.02 | durcyn | and for an example of how to do it well, look at red faction guerilla |
| 17:55.11 | Arrowmaster | it seems everything with shitty DRM is a pc port of a console game, or its Spore |
| 17:55.32 | Zyn | so far they unlocked the framerate, added a Field of View slider in the graphics settings, and rebuilt the HUD to fit mouse-navigation |
| 17:55.51 | cog|work | "Your target has no weapon equipped" Then wtf is that giant SWORD he's swinging at me? |
| 17:56.07 | Zyn | Spore .. oh wow, so much promises and the first demonstration of it made us jizz our pants ... but when it was released, it was Disappointment 3000 |
| 17:56.10 | nevcairiel | thats a bone extension |
| 17:56.45 | Arrowmaster | yes so glade i pirated and beat that shitty game a week before it was released |
| 17:56.45 | cog|work | and the ones on abominations are prosthetic, i take it? |
| 17:57.25 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425523401&sid=1 <-if only yhere existed some kind of message system that could support over 140 characters |
| 17:57.29 | cog|work | better to flop than to vaporware imo |
| 17:57.30 | Fisker | there* |
| 17:58.19 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: you should get AC2 for the PC lulz |
| 17:58.52 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: already spent way more than normal on the xbox version since i ended up buying two copies |
| 17:59.35 | Ackis | 2? |
| 17:59.37 | Ackis | why? |
| 18:00.27 | Arrowmaster | normal version from bestbuy, then found out there really was a CE version and it was a fucking gamestop exclusive with 2 bonus maps others will never see, so i bought the CE a week after it was released |
| 18:01.05 | Arrowmaster | and since i had already opened the normal version i couldnt return it so i ended up trading in my first game ever to gamestop for fucking $18 |
| 18:01.39 | Ackis | did you know there was a third even more exclusive version with another map in it? |
| 18:01.59 | Arrowmaster | yes but it wasnt NTSC |
| 18:02.34 | Arrowmaster | and that 3rd map wasnt even available at the games launch |
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| 18:04.20 | Ackis | and what's even more funny was the exclusive pre-order bonus was included in the box when I got my CE |
| 18:04.57 | Arrowmaster | yes except gamestop created their own damn game box |
| 18:05.27 | Arrowmaster | if the fuckers would have just used the same fucking case as all the other retailers i could have taken the one out of the CE and returned it to bestbuy |
| 18:05.30 | Ackis | Shipyard Arsenal that's the really rare thiing |
| 18:06.21 | Ackis | http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/02/25/batman-arkham-asylum-75-off-sale.aspx |
| 18:06.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> 64.19 + 85.59 - 18.75 |
| 18:06.56 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 131.03 |
| 18:07.08 | Arrowmaster | i paid $131.03 for my copy of AC2 |
| 18:07.14 | Arrowmaster | gamestop can fucking goto hell |
| 18:07.31 | Arrowmaster | plus they didnt give me my preorder bonus for heavy rain this week |
| 18:07.44 | Ackis | if you want to spend another $20 for AC2 go here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Assassins-Creed-2-Shipyard-Arsenal-map-code-Xbox-360_W0QQitemZ180473756617QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a0512fbc9 :P |
| 18:07.51 | Arrowmaster | i already own two copies of batman arkham asylum too |
| 18:07.58 | Ackis | I've refused to pay for things when they don't give me my pre-order bonus |
| 18:08.16 | Arrowmaster | i havent opened heavy rain yet |
| 18:08.46 | Ackis | like the $5 or w/e you put down, that's not gone if you don't pick up your copy |
| 18:08.52 | Arrowmaster | the guy said they might have more of the preorder bonus next week, if they dont when i goto pickup BF:BC2 im going to return heavy rain for full price |
| 18:09.37 | Ackis | with ME2 they fucked me on my CE, so I went to FutureShit got ME2 CE there, with their pre-order, picked up my copy of ME2 at EB with pre-order, then returned it the next day |
| 18:10.18 | Arrowmaster | ill just wait for the game to go down $10 at bestbuy or wait until i get a coupon from bestbuy rewardzone and get it discounted if i have to purchase the bonus for the $4.99 when its released |
| 18:10.35 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i did the EXACT same thing |
| 18:10.48 | Ackis | doesn't it make you feel nice inside? |
| 18:10.55 | Arrowmaster | ME2 CE preorder from bestbuy and ME2 normal preorder from gamestop |
| 18:10.57 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:11.03 | Arrowmaster | fuck gamestop, fucking hate them |
| 18:11.22 | Fisker | i fucking hate you |
| 18:12.12 | Arrowmaster | i should return my BF:BC2 too and go pick it up at bestbuy, ill get more rewardzone points |
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| 18:12.57 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: look at their game play guarentee |
| 18:13.12 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 18:13.14 | Ackis | it's something about if you don't like the game you can return it for full price even if it's opened (store credit) |
| 18:13.28 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would i want gamestop store credit |
| 18:13.37 | Arrowmaster | i dont purchase used games |
| 18:14.01 | Ackis | you can use it to buy new games :P |
| 18:14.04 | Arrowmaster | and the only time you can get a new UNOPENED game from gamestop is right after a release |
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| 18:15.10 | Ackis | lua> 0.75 * 50 |
| 18:15.11 | lua_bot | Ackis: 37.5 |
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| 18:16.50 | Ackis | there's a new way to sell used games, it's online, you end up getting more $$ than gamestop, and don't have to worry about paying for shipping... kokatu or w/e has mentioned it a couple of times |
| 18:17.16 | Arrowmaster | i dont sell games |
| 18:17.43 | Ackis | you said you sold AC2 :P |
| 18:17.52 | Ackis | and you have two copies of Batman:AA :P |
| 18:18.04 | Arrowmaster | when i got my MW2 xbox elite and a copy of the hardened edition of MW2 i sold the normal version that came with the xbox to my friend for $50 cash |
| 18:18.37 | Arrowmaster | Batman:AA is because i have the 360 version and then i got the steam version with a really cheap deal during christmas |
| 18:18.38 | Ackis | I won a copy of Halo ODST when I already has it |
| 18:19.05 | Ackis | ah |
| 18:19.13 | olafski | you can give that to me if you like ackis |
| 18:19.17 | Arrowmaster | you can sell unopened stuff on ebay for more than gamestop would give you |
| 18:19.36 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: you any good at halo? |
| 18:19.36 | Ackis | I might get the cheap version tomorrow for hte PC, seperate achievements than wha'ts on the xbox :P |
| 18:19.41 | Ackis | no I'm terrible |
| 18:20.07 | Ackis | it was the first game I played when I got my 360 and I didn't hit a single enemy in the first part of the mission |
| 18:20.09 | olafski | ODST is 19.99.. I might as well get it sometime |
| 18:20.12 | Arrowmaster | wonder if the steam version of batman is speerate achievements, it should be right? |
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| 18:20.46 | Ackis | if it's GFWL then yes |
| 18:21.12 | Ackis | like RE5, BS:Pacific, DoW2 are on Steam but they're GFWL achievements |
| 18:21.13 | Arrowmaster | my friend and i are still looking for people to do odst achievements with, firefight and the 4 person legendary vidmaster one |
| 18:21.28 | Ackis | World of Goo, etc on steam use steam achievements and not GFWL ones |
| 18:22.00 | Arrowmaster | ive got world of goo from the developer |
| 18:22.16 | Arrowmaster | so ive got no achievements |
| 18:22.20 | Ackis | ah |
| 18:22.31 | Arrowmaster | but i have a native linux version |
| 18:22.41 | Ackis | once I'm done with DoW2, GTA4 and MUA I was going to play Halo 3/Halo ODST |
| 18:22.50 | Ackis | I think I've learned how to aim now |
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| 18:23.34 | Arrowmaster | i havent really used it that much but im really liking http://www.amazon.com/FPS-Freek-Xbox360-Playstation-3/dp/B002R2JCNK |
| 18:24.01 | Arrowmaster | i actually got http://www.amazon.com/KontrolFreek-Combo-Pack-Xbox360-Playstation-3/dp/B002XW24AW |
| 18:24.13 | Ackis | yeah I've seen those before, not exactly sure what they do exactly |
| 18:24.36 | Arrowmaster | the fps ones make the sticks longer |
| 18:25.02 | Ackis | ah so you get more fine grained control |
| 18:25.03 | Arrowmaster | so you can increase the ingame sensitivity |
| 18:25.08 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 18:25.29 | Arrowmaster | increase the ingame sensitivity but have more range of motion on the sticks |
| 18:25.30 | olafski | I modded my own controllers |
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| 18:25.43 | Arrowmaster | olafski: getting tempted to do that |
| 18:25.44 | olafski | for fighting games though |
| 18:25.56 | Ackis | I've been thinking about getting a modded controller that lets me auto shoot or something |
| 18:26.00 | olafski | don't really care about shooters.. I finished halo 3 on highest difficulty so that's enough |
| 18:26.04 | olafski | hax ackis! |
| 18:26.12 | olafski | or is that legal? |
| 18:26.23 | Ackis | it's not illegal |
| 18:26.24 | Arrowmaster | like half the MW2 players have a modded controller |
| 18:26.27 | Ackis | I won't go to jail for it |
| 18:26.33 | olafski | you know what I mean ackis :( |
| 18:26.38 | Ackis | lulz |
| 18:26.43 | olafski | I don't really get what the thing on the picture does arrowmaster.. it makes the sticks.. bigger? :s |
| 18:26.46 | Ackis | I think it is against the ToS |
| 18:27.08 | olafski | hax then! |
| 18:27.15 | olafski | I guess my modifications are against the ToS too then |
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| 18:27.35 | Arrowmaster | olafski: longer, think of it in terms of physics, if the stick is longer you have to move it further to get the same change in angle at the base |
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| 18:27.46 | olafski | yeah I see it now |
| 18:27.55 | olafski | didn't see that the part you clip on moves too |
| 18:28.01 | olafski | I thought that part stuck to the controller |
| 18:28.30 | Arrowmaster | it seems a little weird at first but when you think about it, it makes perfect sense |
| 18:28.55 | Ackis | it's like a see-saw |
| 18:29.00 | Ackis | but not really |
| 18:29.09 | Arrowmaster | if i get another ps3 game and ever play on that console again i swear im getting these http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Dual-Triggers-Playstation-3/dp/B001IAOEXU |
| 18:29.10 | olafski | guess so.. I never really found it too insensitive |
| 18:29.19 | Arrowmaster | that controller has the worst fucking triggers ever |
| 18:29.37 | olafski | just like the 360 has the most horrible dpads ever |
| 18:29.54 | olafski | that's what I modded :P |
| 18:29.56 | Arrowmaster | oh yes, 360 dpad is the only thing wrong with it |
| 18:30.11 | Ackis | how often are you guys in parties on xbox? |
| 18:30.15 | Arrowmaster | got pics? i want to know what you did and how you did it? |
| 18:30.24 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: not often |
| 18:30.27 | olafski | I have a guide somewhere |
| 18:30.38 | olafski | hang on my pc is frozen, I am trying to start CC4 :P |
| 18:31.07 | Arrowmaster | unless im playing a coop game with my best friend, hes my coop partner in most things |
| 18:31.35 | Arrowmaster | need to kick his ass and get him to work on gears2 insane with me again |
| 18:31.45 | olafski | arrowmaster: basically I gave the dpad a bit more range of motion |
| 18:31.56 | olafski | helps a LOT |
| 18:32.11 | Ackis | I don't use the d-pad |
| 18:32.22 | Arrowmaster | nobody does |
| 18:32.27 | Arrowmaster | because its shit |
| 18:32.42 | Ackis | I don't find a use for it in games though |
| 18:32.56 | olafski | ackis: try playing mortal kombat |
| 18:33.03 | olafski | that's pretty much impossible with the sticks |
| 18:33.15 | olafski | can type messages on the pad much more easily now too (I don't have that keypad addon) |
| 18:33.30 | Arrowmaster | keypad addon is awesome |
| 18:34.09 | olafski | I'm not that much of an xbl socialite.. hardly send messages |
| 18:34.32 | Arrowmaster | although ive noticed they added an "English (Qwerty)" language to the console now so the keypad isnt as much of a requirement for inputing codes without wanting to kill somebody |
| 18:34.35 | Ackis | starts to invite Arrowmaster to a party every day |
| 18:34.44 | olafski | eh |
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| 18:34.55 | olafski | is it abcde by default or something? |
| 18:34.57 | olafski | I don't remember |
| 18:35.00 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:35.15 | Ackis | http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-us/games/pages/sales.aspx |
| 18:35.18 | olafski | wasn't qwerty designed to have commonly used keys as far away from eachother as possible? |
| 18:35.30 | olafski | bleh pc games ackis :P |
| 18:35.33 | olafski | do not want! |
| 18:35.40 | Arrowmaster | inputting redemption codes is part of the reason i got the messenger + pgr4 + 12months live pack instead of a 13month card |
| 18:36.28 | Arrowmaster | olafski: when you are used to qwerty, using an onscreen abcdef keyboard with just a joystick is fucking hell |
| 18:36.30 | theorbtwo | QWERTY is a horror, but it is a known horror. |
| 18:36.50 | olafski | oh I didn't mind it too much |
| 18:37.23 | olafski | I'll see if I can find that guide |
| 18:37.25 | Arrowmaster | im like a 100 wpm touch typist |
| 18:37.27 | olafski | if not I can explain how it's done |
| 18:37.46 | olafski | 140 here! |
| 18:38.01 | olafski | according to http://labs.jphantom.com/wpm/ ;) |
| 18:38.17 | Arrowmaster | i havent taken a typing test in years |
| 18:38.32 | Arrowmaster | but theres a funny story about the last one i took |
| 18:38.56 | olafski | I got 640 cpm and 140 wpm on that little test.. seems quite odd to realize I type more than 10 chars per second |
| 18:39.42 | Arrowmaster | lua> 640 / 60 |
| 18:39.45 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 10.666666666667 |
| 18:40.02 | olafski | could've done that without a bot I imagine ;) |
| 18:40.10 | Arrowmaster | i suck at simple math |
| 18:40.24 | Arrowmaster | im only good at complex equations |
| 18:40.24 | theorbtwo | shrugs. |
| 18:40.34 | theorbtwo | "A little over 10" is all you need to care about. |
| 18:40.41 | Ackis | AFAWESRAeswrFVREDSWFVER |
| 18:40.42 | olafski | yer :) |
| 18:40.46 | Ackis | I typed that in less than a second |
| 18:40.47 | Ackis | I'm fast |
| 18:40.58 | olafski | ackis: but I typed a couple of sentences, without errors :) |
| 18:41.47 | Ackis | that means I love you in my native language of facetokeyboard |
| 18:42.57 | olafski | arrowmaster: got it on my first google hit - http://www.ufighterx.com/guides/videogame/360dpadfix/360dpadfix.htm |
| 18:43.00 | olafski | that's the dpad fix |
| 18:43.14 | olafski | I had to buy two sets of screwdriver bits to even get the controller open >_< |
| 18:44.24 | Arrowmaster | torx bits? |
| 18:44.27 | olafski | yep |
| 18:44.30 | olafski | specifically security torx |
| 18:44.37 | olafski | I actually only did one of the controllers.. I was sanding it for like half an hour before it was right :P |
| 18:45.02 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be surprised if i actually have all the needed screwdrivers |
| 18:45.23 | olafski | I had none at all.. managed to find normal torx in a hardware store but when I got home I found that those did not suffice |
| 18:45.30 | olafski | so I ordered another set on ebay =) |
| 18:46.56 | Arrowmaster | this guide is wrong, all 7 screws are visible on my wired controller, there was never a sticker there on this one |
| 18:47.08 | olafski | other than the dpad there is really nothing wrong with the 360 controller though.. I keep feeling astounded at how sturdy they are.. at times I grip them really hard and they don't even squeak or anything |
| 18:47.14 | olafski | hm it was correct for mine I think |
| 18:47.34 | olafski | maybe because it's a wired one? |
| 18:49.51 | olafski | they set all of that up pretty well too btw.. can't even accidentally put the ABXY buttons in the wrong spot or upside down :) |
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| 18:50.31 | Kaso | i love drpms, makes updating after a new install so much faster |
| 18:50.53 | Arrowmaster | you know every button on the controller is analog? was even like that on the orginal xbox, just almost no games make use of it |
| 18:50.55 | Thunder_Child | dr pms |
| 18:52.23 | olafski | arrowmaster: really? so even ABXY can be "half pressed"? |
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| 18:52.52 | Arrowmaster | not really 'half pressed' but more like it can know if you hit it softly or hard |
| 18:53.02 | olafski | ah |
| 18:53.12 | olafski | interesting.. do you know of a game that uses that? wonder if I have any of those |
| 18:53.21 | Arrowmaster | doa xbv |
| 18:53.26 | Arrowmaster | for orignal xbox |
| 18:53.33 | olafski | hm I have doax2 |
| 18:53.38 | olafski | wait did I just admit to that? :< |
| 18:53.40 | Arrowmaster | never played it |
| 18:53.46 | olafski | I tried it for like half an hour |
| 18:53.48 | olafski | what a horrible game |
| 18:54.00 | olafski | glad I didn't get any achievements (which are impossible anyway) so I could remove it from my profile |
| 18:54.19 | olafski | it was 10 euro so I figured I might have a couple of hours of fun with some friends and beer but it won't even do for that |
| 18:55.53 | Arrowmaster | i had my 360 at a lan party and somebody was asking me to go all the way home and get my softmodded original xbox with doa xbv on the harddrive |
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| 18:55.57 | olafski | oO |
| 18:55.58 | Arrowmaster | it was patched and they wanted to put it up on the big projector |
| 18:56.05 | olafski | patched.. I won't ask in what way |
| 18:56.35 | olafski | dunno if DOA XBV is any good.. but with doax2 I had the feeling that it was just a bunch of minigames, most of which the player seemed to have hardly any influence |
| 18:56.42 | olafski | the only nice part was the jetski racing |
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| 18:57.55 | Ackis | did you guys read about the killer whale that killed someone yesterday? |
| 18:58.02 | Ackis | apparently it's killed before |
| 18:58.05 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:58.06 | Ackis | so it's a Serial Killer Whale |
| 18:58.08 | Ackis | lulz |
| 18:58.40 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5479632/killer-whales-violent-past-includes-deadly-attack-on-ultima+obsessed-drifter |
| 18:58.45 | olafski | :P |
| 18:59.04 | olafski | I didn't quite get that.. the guy was dead and his corpse was "draped over" the whale? |
| 18:59.17 | olafski | don't those whales stay in water? i.e. the corpse would just slide off |
| 19:00.07 | alestane | Arrowmaster: clearly MMOs cause killer whale attacks and are a public safety hazard. |
| 19:00.13 | Ackis | GET IT |
| 19:00.16 | Ackis | SERIAL KILLER WHALE |
| 19:00.17 | Ackis | come on |
| 19:00.20 | Ackis | that was funny! |
| 19:00.31 | alestane | It was, but my timing was off. |
| 19:00.49 | olafski | I did a ":P" ackis |
| 19:01.30 | Ackis | it was funnier than a :P |
| 19:01.39 | olafski | that's for me to decide |
| 19:01.52 | olafski | you'll have to do a lot better if you want to beat the funny links mikma sent earlier |
| 19:02.05 | Ackis | perverts |
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| 19:04.06 | Arrowmaster | http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/10/02/25/1619203/Hollywood-Treats-Hackers-Pretty-Well |
| 19:04.19 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if The Core was included in that |
| 19:05.33 | alestane | Or the fat doofus in The Transformers. |
| 19:06.21 | Arrowmaster | he was funny but not as off the wall as the guy in The Core |
| 19:06.42 | alestane | That kid was at least believably "odd." |
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| 19:16.12 | Ackis | http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/img_2022-560.jpg?w=560&h=556 bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 19:17.00 | bluspacecow | its a kitteh ! |
| 19:17.04 | bluspacecow | a kitteh burrito ! |
| 19:17.15 | Ackis | lol |
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| 19:22.25 | Aeyan | I think I need to start using shadyurl for everything. |
| 19:22.46 | Aeyan | Need a link to the Blizzard secure authenticator press release? No problem. |
| 19:22.48 | Aeyan | http://5z8.info/openme.exe_f0t8m_IED-howto |
| 19:25.31 | Ackis | On the 8th day, God created Saturn. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it. |
| 19:25.42 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:27.47 | theorbtwo | ++ |
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| 19:38.38 | Pneumatus | 5z8 links are made of awesome |
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| 20:05.14 | Taroven | Quick! I need an addon name! |
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| 20:06.51 | mikma | taroven: labamba |
| 20:06.57 | Taroven | DONE! |
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| 20:07.19 | Taroven | ...if it fit this at all, heh. |
| 20:07.28 | Taroven | Just wrote a panel addon and tPanels is a boring, boring name. |
| 20:07.42 | mikma | briefcase |
| 20:08.06 | mikma | "contains all the stuff you put in" |
| 20:08.33 | Taroven | I'm suddenly surprised that's not taken on WoWI or Curse. |
| 20:08.36 | Taroven | mikma, you rock. |
| 20:08.57 | mikma | np, nn. |
| 20:09.14 | Kraps | wtb level 58 |
| 20:09.28 | Kraps | i'm just under 56 |
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| 20:11.23 | Kraps | if anyone is bored http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35860_Live_Video-_Health_Care_Summit |
| 20:11.57 | Lunessa | http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article7039871.ece |
| 20:13.34 | Ackis | http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/avatar/offers/011f0003-0000-4000-8000-00004c4107d2/ hahaha |
| 20:13.40 | Ackis | star wars force unleashed avatar items |
| 20:14.55 | olafski | nice |
| 20:14.58 | Maldivia | cute |
| 20:15.37 | Ackis | expenisve |
| 20:15.44 | Ackis | 400 points ($5) for a virtual lightsaber |
| 20:17.46 | olafski | :) |
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| 20:18.31 | olafski | shadowed: when I set 2 buffs per column, any number of max columns on my target frame, buffs displaying "right top", it still shows all buffs in one column (on SUF obviously ,)) |
| 20:19.14 | Shadowed | busy hang on |
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| 20:23.22 | olafski | me too, no worries.. just start UP :) |
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| 20:23.46 | AbsolutRayne | Afternoon all. :) I need someone really good with Text Editing on SUF. |
| 20:25.17 | Lunessa | Define "really good" |
| 20:25.57 | AbsolutRayne | I need to know if theres a way I can give a line of code a specific color. Specifically, the color I have set for Incoming Heals. |
| 20:26.58 | olafski | shadowed: I think it works now.. I had debuffs set to right top as well, that seems to conflict |
| 20:28.53 | AbsolutRayne | Im sure there is, I just cant find a tag for it. :S |
| 20:29.54 | Shadowed | olafski: sorry was dealing with stuff, what are you saying? |
| 20:29.59 | Shadowed | what's conflicting with what |
| 20:34.53 | AbsolutRayne | goes back to stomping about |
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| 20:39.02 | AbsolutRayne | Shadowed: Perhaps you could help? <_< |
| 20:39.05 | Shadowed | wat |
| 20:39.10 | Shadowed | What am I doing |
| 20:39.15 | Shadowed | it was Cairenn |
| 20:39.23 | AbsolutRayne | Its always Cairenn :( |
| 20:39.26 | Shadowed | It is |
| 20:39.38 | Shadowed | moment |
| 20:40.31 | Shadowed | ShadowUF:Hex(ShadowUF.db.profile.healthColors.inc) will get you a color tag of your incoming heals AbsolutRayne |
| 20:40.41 | Shadowed | You'd have to make a new tag that returns it thought |
| 20:40.50 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 20:40.57 | AbsolutRayne | blarg. |
| 20:41.21 | foxlit | Looks like CPU is the limiting factor of WoW's fps :( |
| 20:41.45 | zenzelezz | usually |
| 20:41.53 | AbsolutRayne | CPUs usually are a key bottleneck. |
| 20:42.15 | zenzelezz | really depends what you're doing and how it's coded; but it is easier to saturate than the other components |
| 20:42.18 | AbsolutRayne | My wife has a Single Core 939 processor still. She gets stupid lag all the time. :( |
| 20:42.47 | foxlit | Hey, it could be GPU-bound! |
| 20:43.15 | AbsolutRayne | She has a 9800GT :P |
| 20:43.46 | foxlit | E6750 wasn't too bad... a few year ago. |
| 20:44.53 | foxlit | Which puts me in an annoying upgrade situation. |
| 20:45.23 | foxlit | Since i5/i7 use a different socket, options are rather limited. |
| 20:46.07 | AbsolutRayne | Shadowed: Would just [Color:Green] work? :B |
| 20:46.16 | Shadowed | No, it's not like Pitbull |
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| 20:46.23 | AbsolutRayne | Rage |
| 20:46.36 | Shadowed | Just enable advanced settings, make a tag that does return ShadowUF:Hex(ShadowUF.db.profile.healthColors.inc) |
| 20:46.39 | Shadowed | it's not that hard :p |
| 20:46.58 | AbsolutRayne | I know, im just being picky |
| 20:47.08 | Kalroth | you should implement dog tags in SUF Shadowed! |
| 20:47.16 | AbsolutRayne | Which is kinda silly. Youd think id be in a good mood because I FINALLY got me a Grunty pet <333 |
| 20:47.16 | Shadowed | I could find you and dump you in a harbor |
| 20:47.27 | Kalroth | :/ |
| 20:47.28 | Shadowed | but that doesn't mean it's a good idea! |
| 20:47.35 | Shadowed | Actually, that would be a good idea. But I think it's illegal |
| 20:47.36 | Kalroth | :P |
| 20:47.45 | Shadowed | something about murder laws or whatnot |
| 20:48.37 | olafski | shadowed: when I had both buffs and debuffs set to display at "right top", both at 2 auras per column and many columns (say, about 9), everything would display in one long column |
| 20:49.57 | Shadowed | mkay |
| 20:50.09 | olafski | dunno why I had it set up that way anyway |
| 20:52.16 | AbsolutRayne | Im so terrible at coding, I should just chop my fingers off. :( |
| 20:52.37 | xqo | !api reload |
| 20:52.39 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'reload': package.preload, ReloadUI |
| 20:52.47 | xqo | !api reloadgx |
| 20:52.50 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'reloadgx'. |
| 20:53.04 | nevcairiel | its a console command, its not a api |
| 20:53.31 | olafski | ReloadUI is an api command isn't it? |
| 20:53.56 | xqo | im looking for reloadgfx, or whatever |
| 20:53.57 | Shadowed | yes |
| 20:53.59 | olafski | hmm |
| 20:54.04 | Shadowed | it's uh |
| 20:54.09 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.22 | olafski | the one that puts the game back in focus if you've minimized it? |
| 20:54.29 | xqo | thanks |
| 20:54.51 | olafski | dunno what gxrestart does :) |
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| 20:56.27 | Shadowed | mm I see the issue you're talking about olafski |
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| 20:56.59 | olafski | glad to hear it :) |
| 20:57.15 | olafski | annoyed the hell out of me but it's solved now.. I wanted debuffs and buffs on different spots anyway, dunno why it was like this |
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| 21:05.44 | Fisker | Anyone know if they nerfed autojoining through LFD in 3.3.3? |
| 21:06.07 | AbsolutRayne | The colors, Duke! The Coloooorrrssss |
| 21:06.27 | Shadowed | I'll nerf you |
| 21:08.31 | Kraps | i was just trying to explain to a group member that linking recount without being asked comes off as dickesh |
| 21:09.32 | olafski | :P |
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| 21:11.42 | Kraps | he didnt rage at me at least |
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| 21:15.44 | Shirik | rages at Kraps |
| 21:16.16 | Kraps | casts Shield Bash on Shirik |
| 21:16.28 | Shirik | what does that do? |
| 21:16.33 | Shirik | doesn't that just interrupt spells? |
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| 21:16.48 | amro | it can also give you a nosebleed |
| 21:16.54 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:17.12 | Kraps | Shield Slam then, removes 1 buff from the target |
| 21:17.26 | Kraps | it can also give you a nosebleed |
| 21:17.28 | amro | ~fail Shirik |
| 21:17.29 | purl | Shirik, you Fail! |
| 21:22.51 | Shadowed | Hrm, is there a way to identify a realm as EU, US, TW, etc in-game? |
| 21:23.21 | Shadowed | As far as I know, all we can get is realm name, which isn't unique |
| 21:25.46 | Cide| | amro: use failrik |
| 21:26.07 | amro | Cide|: I'm aware of it, but explicit targeting is more satisfying |
| 21:26.14 | Cide| | I disagree |
| 21:26.34 | Cide| | it's more satisfying to use a command specifically tailored for the purpose |
| 21:27.20 | Shadowed | actuallllllly hrm |
| 21:27.46 | Shadowed | Whooo trickery, is anyone on EU WoW? |
| 21:27.49 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: could read the realmList cvar |
| 21:27.54 | Shadowed | yea that's what I just realized |
| 21:28.05 | Stanzilla | <- |
| 21:28.22 | Shadowed | Stanzilla: Can you check your WTF/Config.wtf file, and gimmie what realmList is set to? |
| 21:28.42 | nevcairiel | SET realmList "eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" |
| 21:28.56 | Shadowed | whoo thanks |
| 21:28.57 | Stanzilla | damn you nev |
| 21:29.20 | Fisker | hej Shirik |
| 21:32.09 | Shirik | what u wan |
| 21:33.00 | Shadowed | It's Fisker, whenever he says that just ignore hi |
| 21:33.00 | Shadowed | m |
| 21:33.06 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: theres an addon that checks the realmList cvar to figure out what % of playtime youve had since the wow went live in your region, it should have them all |
| 21:33.20 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:33.47 | Shadowed | Any rough idea on name? |
| 21:34.26 | Arrowmaster | something played i think maybe |
| 21:35.15 | EthanCentaurai | AllPlayed? |
| 21:35.31 | Arrowmaster | i want to say that but i dont think it is |
| 21:35.39 | Shadowed | Yea I looked at the description, don't think it is |
| 21:36.23 | Arrowmaster | somebody has to know since i think it was made by somebody in #wowace |
| 21:36.39 | Shirik | Is SC2 going to require a subscription for online play? |
| 21:36.48 | Cide| | no |
| 21:36.51 | Dagmar | Shirik: THat would be a first |
| 21:36.52 | Cide| | free of charge |
| 21:37.13 | olafski | is that confirmed? cause someone here found something about subscriptions in the game files |
| 21:37.34 | Cide| | it's pretty much confirmed for diablo 3 at least |
| 21:37.38 | Cide| | I figured sc2 would be the same |
| 21:37.42 | Cide| | since it's the same service |
| 21:37.45 | Fisker | why do you hate me so much Shadowed ? |
| 21:37.53 | Shadowed | I love you Fisker , I just love you in a hatey way |
| 21:37.59 | Fisker | Cide| well i'd atleast say there are references to subscription based models |
| 21:38.03 | nevcairiel | Last i heard, playing will be free, but they'll have additional pay-for services |
| 21:38.18 | Fisker | but they have atleast confirmed that you can get access just by buying the game |
| 21:38.20 | Shirik | what, like powerups? |
| 21:38.23 | Fisker | with no additional fees |
| 21:38.26 | Cide| | wouldn't be surprising |
| 21:38.28 | Cide| | tournaments etc |
| 21:38.52 | Fisker | custom tournaments though |
| 21:38.59 | Fisker | normal ladderplay will supposedly be free too |
| 21:39.05 | nevcairiel | Shirik: blizzard isnt stupid like that, they won't give you an advantage jsut because you pay more |
| 21:39.14 | Shirik | that's what I was saying :P |
| 21:40.03 | Cide| | if you pay $15 a month you get free psionic storms |
| 21:40.16 | Ackis | I'd pay $15 a month to shut Fisker up! |
| 21:40.17 | Ackis | lulz |
| 21:44.44 | Dagmar | Sony would do it tho |
| 21:45.37 | Ackis | Dagmar: sony would shut Fisker up? |
| 21:46.06 | Fisker | i can make some pretty nasty farts Ackis |
| 21:46.09 | Fisker | over tcp/ip |
| 21:46.27 | olafski | man I need to bandage after every 4 mobs I kill on my rogue.. don't recall it being that bad when leveling my warrior :/ |
| 21:46.28 | Ackis | dude I had milk stuff last night, my farts will own yours |
| 21:46.29 | Dagmar | That wasn't what I was referringt to, but to be honest, if you paid them $5/month more they'd probably consider it |
| 21:47.26 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/funny-pictures-cat-is-this-the-face.jpg?w=500&h=502 |
| 21:51.26 | Lunessa | We must catch Moose and Squirrel. |
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| 21:53.58 | Taroven | Random question just to be sure... if I nil out a frame's OnEvent, are its registered events intact if the OnEvent is set again? |
| 21:54.20 | Taroven | (I'd assume yes) |
| 21:54.35 | Fisker | can an addon fuck up the ability for the camera to automatically follow the character? |
| 21:55.03 | zenzelezz | addons can fuck up anything that has a cvar at least |
| 21:55.16 | Taroven | Fisker: Yep. |
| 21:55.29 | zenzelezz | had a DKP addon that disabled auto-clear AFK in raids, and forgot to turn it back on |
| 21:58.23 | Fisker | anyway to figure out what addon is causing it? |
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| 22:04.40 | Kraps | http://twitpic.com/15b66c |
| 22:09.18 | cbreak | Taroven: depends |
| 22:09.40 | cbreak | if the handler is an inline function, it'll get gced |
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| 22:21.03 | amro | olafski: if you're getting hit, you're doing it wrong |
| 22:21.06 | Thrae | Well I need to jump through hoops to replace a working drive (Raptor) on ICH10R stripe (RAID0) with a new VelicoRaptor version (which WD allowed cross-shipment for $10), but after usign Linux to dd the old drive to the new drive and using some RAID recovery tools I think I'm on my way. Gotta have your stripes with NCQ and SATAII! |
| 22:23.23 | AbsolutRayne | I give up on making this work for SUF |
| 22:23.24 | AbsolutRayne | :( |
| 22:23.46 | olafski | amro: but but.. :( as combat I never got hit, switched to assassination now :< |
| 22:24.04 | amro | olafski: you're still doing it wrong, go subtlety+daggers |
| 22:24.11 | amro | step 1: ambush |
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| 22:24.15 | amro | step 2: eviscerate |
| 22:24.17 | amro | step 3: loot |
| 22:24.33 | olafski | bleh sub |
| 22:24.37 | olafski | looked at that tree and it looked boring |
| 22:24.44 | amro | you look boring |
| 22:24.51 | olafski | but I might as well grab a solo spec again, 50+ minutes queue time just now |
| 22:26.46 | Fisker | i should really get mine replaced Thrae :o |
| 22:26.48 | Fisker | died a few months ago |
| 22:26.53 | Fisker | but cba pretty much |
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| 22:28.28 | Thrae | Fisker: You have one or more Raptors? It's free if you don't select cross-shipment to upgrade them to VelicoRaptors. |
| 22:28.50 | Thrae | Fisker: OK, technically not free, you need to pay for shipping it to them either way. |
| 22:29.11 | AbsolutRayne | Sub Leveling is the way to go. |
| 22:29.13 | AbsolutRayne | btw. |
| 22:29.17 | AbsolutRayne | Especially with 3.3.3 coming out. |
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| 22:30.08 | Fisker | it's a velociraptor already |
| 22:30.27 | Fisker | i don't really use it though |
| 22:36.32 | amro | AbsolutRayne: Sub Leveling? |
| 22:36.34 | amro | oh |
| 22:36.43 | amro | the cap S threw me off for some reason |
| 22:37.04 | Kraps | AbsolutRayne: lots of nice defensive talents |
| 22:37.20 | Fisker | lol wtf |
| 22:37.32 | Fisker | we almost wiped on faction champions during the jousting event |
| 22:37.53 | Ackis | you know, finding 3 references for a job is difficult work |
| 22:38.04 | Ackis | I have to find 3 people who won't say anything bad about me |
| 22:38.21 | Ackis | there' 169 people in this channel, and 100% of them would say something bad about me (just an example) :P |
| 22:38.32 | nevcairiel | truth |
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| 22:38.35 | zenzelezz | only 100%? |
| 22:38.46 | Fisker | Ackis wiped us in totc |
| 22:39.06 | Ackis | :P |
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| 22:43.46 | Dagmar | Ackis: I prefer my hatred of others to be more personalized |
| 22:44.03 | Dagmar | Being that I just sort of peripherally "know" you, I don't have anything bad to say about you. |
| 22:45.25 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg |
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| 22:50.29 | airtonix | i thought ackis was banned |
| 23:00.37 | NeoTron | airtonix: he is |
| 23:00.46 | Shadowed | Ackis is banned?! |
| 23:00.47 | Shadowed | what did he do |
| 23:01.44 | Nechckn | More his mother's fault than his, from my understanding. |
| 23:02.53 | NeoTron | Shadowed: not sure but he's suing blizzard because he has a $2k spectral tiger on the account |
| 23:02.58 | NeoTron | at least that's what I heard |
| 23:03.01 | Shadowed | really |
| 23:03.06 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:03.06 | Shadowed | crazy bastard |
| 23:03.15 | Cairenn | no |
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| 23:03.25 | Shadowed | ~lart Cairenn |
| 23:03.25 | purl | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that Cairenn is stuck to the floor |
| 23:03.36 | NeoTron | and then, an internet conversation has become a rumor which has become reality |
| 23:03.47 | Shadowed | God bless the internet! |
| 23:04.32 | NeoTron | basically a forum post lead to a discussion about suing blizzard if they banned your accound and Ackis theorizing how it would be plausible if a person did have items that had a perceived value in real life |
| 23:04.37 | NeoTron | such as the spectral tiger |
| 23:04.54 | Shadowed | And now we need to get him banned |
| 23:05.47 | NeoTron | so the internet myth becomes reality! |
| 23:05.55 | Dagmar | None of what they had on their account would matter if the user were banned according to the TOS |
| 23:05.59 | Dagmar | Not one bit. |
| 23:06.02 | Nechckn | Just look at the "Birther" and "Death Panel" phenoms that did just that. ;-) Chainmail to "OMG, no wai!! Not over my M-16!!" to "news" to Set in Stone. |
| 23:07.00 | Fisker | Ackis was banned |
| 23:07.18 | Nechckn | I blame Cairenn, myself. Too much curling or something to distract her, while hijiks ensue! |
| 23:07.26 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:07.30 | Nechckn | hijinks, even. |
| 23:08.46 | Fisker | Â |
| 23:08.53 | airtonix | lol |
| 23:10.07 | Fisker | Â |
| 23:10.28 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1609 |
| 23:11.30 | Thrae | Anyone have problems with the UI where you can't click on certain frames? I keep reloading during a dungeon to try and fix it and it didn't help. I couldn't Need/Greed/DE/Pass on anything (thankfully, I didn't really care for that dungeon) |
| 23:11.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Man, playing Q3 on my phone is neat |
| 23:11.56 | Thrae | I couldn't even exit the dungeon because it wasn't registering the clicks on the LFG icon. |
| 23:12.22 | Thrae | Finally, when I exited out of WoW, I noticed I couldn't click on my *desktop*, so I think something wacky was going on with my video card and/or its drivers. |
| 23:12.41 | Thrae | IE, not a WoW problem really |
| 23:13.07 | Dagmar | Yes, if you can't click on icons outside of WoW, it's probably not a WoW issue |
| 23:13.09 | Dagmar | heh |
| 23:13.44 | Dagmar | Time to write angry and only partially-coherent emails to the author of the last addon you installed accusing them of sabotaging your mouse |
| 23:13.58 | AbsolutRayne | Just wiped in H Halls of Stone |
| 23:14.07 | Thrae | Dagmar: Haha. I'm an addon author and game engine developer myself. I know better :D |
| 23:14.09 | AbsolutRayne | Cause the tank and 2 melee DPS chilled in Lightning Ring on the last boss. |
| 23:14.32 | Thrae | However! |
| 23:14.50 | Thrae | I do think it would be good of Blizzard to add more slash commands, as those were still working during this problem. |
| 23:14.57 | Thrae | Like /need, /greed, /pass, etc. |
| 23:15.24 | kd3 | but what happens if more than one item drops at the same time? |
| 23:15.37 | Thrae | It's (hopefully) a rare problem for people, but it's always nice to see devs go out of their way to help |
| 23:15.47 | Dagmar | Hopefully you have PassLoot installed and it will sort it out for you |
| 23:16.12 | Dagmar | I know I got sick of rolling on random greens and blues |
| 23:16.19 | Thrae | kd3: The slash command would apply to the first (top) one as determined by your client until there are no more items on roll |
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| 23:17.11 | Thrae | Dagmar: Well it doesn't happen to me all the time, just this one play session. |
| 23:18.13 | Thrae | Speaking of Need/Greed/Pass, have you guys played recently in Random Dungeons and found people needing on Frozen Orbs? I have a bunch of them myself, never got around to using them, and I must have missed where they become important next patch. |
| 23:18.59 | kd3 | you can trade frozen orbs for other trade goods from a new guy in dalaran come 3.3.3 |
| 23:19.38 | Thrae | Of course I would consider the Need/Greed/Pass thing for Frozen Orbs to be a design flaw. No one should be able to Need a non-equippable or class-usuable item. Currency should be Greed or Pass only. |
| 23:20.25 | Thrae | Currency, Mats, etc. |
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| 23:20.55 | Thrae | Technically the Frozen Orb is not Currency but Trade Goods, but if that 3.3.3 change goes through it'll become Currency. |
| 23:21.09 | foxlit | random currency drops are stupid. |
| 23:21.42 | foxlit | It should be more like |
| 23:21.55 | foxlit | <oprah>Everybody gets an orb!</oprah> |
| 23:22.12 | foxlit | Apparently SC2 freezes if you quit a game while battle.net is dead. |
| 23:22.19 | foxlit | Hurray for cloud services. |
| 23:22.26 | Thrae | foxlit: Are you saying in the case of Frozen Orbs that everyone should get one like Badges/Marks/Shards/etc.? |
| 23:22.39 | foxlit | Thrae: yes. |
| 23:23.07 | foxlit | Randoming them out is stupid. If the purpose is to make them five times rarer, require five times the current number in any recipes that use them. |
| 23:23.07 | Thrae | They probably didn't include that in the design of 3.3.3, might be too late to suggest |
| 23:23.35 | Thrae | Are they going to make them rarer? In certain instances, a Frozen Orb ALWAYS drops, it's just random if you can *take it from your party members* |
| 23:24.18 | foxlit | I don't know whether they're going to do anything to them. |
| 23:24.21 | Thrae | That's different than a "random drop" like The Black Heart which I had to farm Champ (5, Normal) about 15 times |
| 23:24.36 | Thrae | Still, it brought back good memories of me farming away on items |
| 23:24.51 | Thrae | Before farming became just a simple grind of roll-face-on-keyboard |
| 23:25.01 | foxlit | My point was that if handing one orb to every party member injects too many orbs into the game, just have the sinks require five times more orbs. |
| 23:25.29 | foxlit | Keeping the relative rarity the same, but eliminating the possibility that you're just never going to win an orb. |
| 23:26.13 | Thrae | foxlit: Yeah, that makes sense considering what they've done with Badges by seriously toning down the importance of Raiding. |
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| 23:28.23 | Fisker | goodnight sweet Thrae |
| 23:30.40 | foxlit | Fisker: what have you done to battle.net? |
| 23:30.46 | Fisker | i killed it |
| 23:30.48 | Fisker | killed it dead |
| 23:30.51 | foxlit | murderer! |
| 23:31.00 | Fisker | i'm sorry |
| 23:31.12 | foxlit | Couldn't you have done it 8 minutes sooner? |
| 23:31.21 | foxlit | Would've saved my 2v2 from a zerg rush :( |
| 23:32.07 | Lunessa | We're totally going to become an SCII channel aren't we? |
| 23:32.11 | Tuller | semi random question: in 3.3.3, blizzard added in quest item highlighting for container items. An item related to a quest has a gold border. A item that starts a quest that you are not on has a gold border + !. The question is: how useful would it be to know about the latter type when viewing another one of your character's items/your bank from anywhere? |
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| 23:32.48 | Lunessa | Tuller moderately. I'm an altoholic. |
| 23:33.05 | foxlit | meh. |
| 23:33.17 | foxlit | Not very, but then again, I don't view items/bank remotely |
| 23:33.32 | Lunessa | The way Baganon Forever reports it would be sufficent for /me/. |
| 23:33.40 | foxlit | The reasoning being that the only reason to care about those items is because you'd probably like to start that quest, which you can't do without the item. |
| 23:37.10 | Tuller | i'll go with "worth adding to bagnon_forever if I decide to implement support for other stuff at the same time" |
| 23:38.07 | Lunessa | bends addon development to his will. *evil laugh* |
| 23:38.50 | Fisker | this is my rag eface |
| 23:38.53 | Fisker | damnit |
| 23:44.52 | Adys | Cide, nevcairiel, I love you both and need your help |
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| 23:47.01 | nevcairiel | I always have to resist to pull a ~asktoask on you |
| 23:48.01 | Cide | ~asktosak |
| 23:48.06 | Cide | .. |
| 23:48.08 | Cide | ~asktoask |
| 23:48.09 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:48.09 | nevcairiel | on another note, spelleffectlevel on 5000 is crazy, and awesome |
| 23:48.38 | Adys | I enjoy pinging you late at night |
| 23:48.42 | Adys | and not telling you what for |
| 23:48.56 | Lunessa | They enjoy ignoring you? |
| 23:49.32 | Adys | Cide, nevcairiel - I need to access cls.__name__ before cls is instanciated |
| 23:49.34 | Adys | class Structure(list): |
| 23:49.34 | Adys | name = __class__.__name__.lower() |
| 23:49.39 | Adys | something like this but that works |
| 23:49.45 | Adys | and that will follow on subclasses too |
| 23:49.50 | Cide | def __new__(cls, name, bases, attrs): ... |
| 23:49.55 | Cide | in a metaclass |
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| 23:50.15 | Adys | uh, I dont follow |
| 23:51.00 | Cide | class StructureMeta(type): def __new__(cls, name, bases, attrs): attrs['name'] = name return type.__new__(cls, name, bases, attrs) |
| 23:51.10 | Cide | class Structure(list): __metaclass__ = StructureMeta |
| 23:51.11 | Cide | etc |
| 23:51.27 | Cide | may or may not work |
| 23:52.15 | Adys | Cide: http://codepad.org/7VwXFWh6 thats from python |
| 23:52.19 | Adys | its more or less the same no? |
| 23:52.48 | Cide | I suppose |
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| 23:53.06 | Cide | I thought you wanted it defined statically |
| 23:53.12 | Cide | not as a dynamic property |
| 23:54.42 | Adys | well yeah |
| 23:54.56 | Adys | though |
| 23:55.00 | Adys | it doesnt really matter does it |
| 23:55.19 | Cide | not really |
| 23:55.41 | Cide | you could just do @classmethod instead of defining ClassProperty |
| 23:56.16 | Cide | well |
| 23:57.10 | Cide | not if you want it accessible from the class and not only instances I suppose |
| 23:58.33 | Adys | Cide: er |
| 23:58.41 | Adys | classmethod wont let me access cls |
| 23:58.42 | Adys | no? |
| 23:58.57 | Adys | I want it to be accessible from both the class and instances |
| 23:59.01 | Cide | yeah |
| 23:59.05 | Cide | then you can't use it |
| 23:59.53 | foxlit | Slashdot poll - "When I die, I want my body to be..." |
