| 00:00.01 | Lunessa | WobWork: sadly, we're still going to Vista on machines here on campus. But that's largely because we can then SCCM a Windows 7 install later without having to go haul every machine on campus in for a new image. |
| 00:00.36 | Kraps | wonders if people who had cars 100 years ago would say today "EVERYONE HAS CARS NOW, NERF ASSEMBLY LINES" |
| 00:03.01 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23214132319&sid=1 |
| 00:05.34 | cogwheel | !api unitsex |
| 00:05.35 | lua_bot | UnitSex: Returns the gender of the given unit or player (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitSex) |
| 00:06.19 | Fisker | WobWork ? |
| 00:07.13 | WobWork | Fisker? |
| 00:07.16 | Fisker | WobWork? |
| 00:08.08 | WobWork | Fisker? |
| 00:08.30 | Fisker | WobWork? |
| 00:08.45 | WobWork | Fisker? |
| 00:10.37 | WobWork | >< |
| 00:10.38 | WobWork | "Lets have some fun this rack is sick, I wanna sniff the packets through your cisco switch, don't think too much just bust that WEP, let's play a wargame, a wargame." |
| 00:11.05 | foxlit | something something disco stick? |
| 00:11.16 | WobWork | Pretty much, see Lady Gaga |
| 00:19.12 | Lunessa | I wish I could moderate my sticky in the UI&M form to remove non-relevant posts. |
| 00:19.35 | Kraps | WobWork: wow is that yours? |
| 00:20.51 | Kraps | the lyrics |
| 00:22.24 | DWSR | WobWork: WTB full song |
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| 00:26.47 | WobWork | Kraps: It eventuated in another channel =) |
| 00:26.56 | Kraps | cool |
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| 00:47.03 | Shadowed | Lunessa: Can you not report them and pray? |
| 00:47.04 | Shadowed | <late> |
| 00:47.32 | Lunessa | Shadowed: Yeah, no. it took an act of Zootfizzle just to get the damned thing stickied. |
| 00:50.19 | elec29a | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.54 | Corrodias | how much is the real amount? |
| 00:56.16 | Shadowed | you're screwed then Lunessa |
| 00:56.36 | elec29a | i dont really know i guess 280-350k gm says the int used is to short but they dont fix it soon |
| 00:56.50 | Lunessa | Shadowed: And not in any way I particularly care for. :P |
| 00:57.01 | Shirik | elec29a, is this an addon or in game? |
| 00:57.10 | Shadowed | Shirik it's just an overflow of the statistics |
| 00:57.11 | elec29a | in game statistik |
| 00:57.15 | Shadowed | it's a signed int |
| 00:57.17 | Shirik | oh statistics |
| 00:57.17 | elec29a | from blizz |
| 00:57.23 | Shadowed | or maybe it's unsigned |
| 00:57.25 | Shirik | why aren't they using a float |
| 00:57.26 | Shadowed | I don't remember which is which |
| 00:57.34 | WobWork | ... how can they make that mistake? =P |
| 00:57.49 | elec29a | i think the same such stupid |
| 00:58.04 | Corrodias | well, it's not being interpreted as unsigned, of course |
| 00:58.29 | Corrodias | if it IS an unsigned int, that makes the value somewhere over the 2 billion mark |
| 00:59.23 | elec29a | the gm did say to me logout he did login on my char and then he said yes the int is too short i know only that |
| 00:59.37 | Dagmar | Now you're going to make it feel self-concious about it |
| 00:59.45 | Dagmar | That poor int |
| 01:00.10 | Corrodias | it's too short if they really needed to display negative numbers there, sure |
| 01:00.32 | Dagmar | Corrodias: It's probably like a lot of the other issues in that thing... it's just reading some entirely incorrect bit of memory for the value |
| 01:00.47 | Corrodias | ah |
| 01:00.48 | Dagmar | Like my super-impressive arena ratings |
| 01:01.06 | Dagmar | ...which are really damn high for never having even seen an arena team before. |
| 01:01.07 | Corrodias | you mean, you're not champion of the universe? |
| 01:01.15 | Arrowmaster | its in copper so anything over 214k gold will overflow |
| 01:01.17 | Shadowed | I don't know why they would need a negative number in statistics :p |
| 01:01.49 | Arrowmaster | all money is done as signed ints so they dont have to convert |
| 01:02.03 | Shadowed | convert what? |
| 01:02.07 | Dagmar | Corrodias: If it were correct I'd have to feed the resulting mount boss mobs to keep him happy |
| 01:02.18 | Arrowmaster | signed and unsigned ints |
| 01:03.03 | Shadowed | ah hm |
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| 01:41.50 | WobWork | http://mashable.com/2010/02/12/fresh-prince-of-bel-air-trick/ |
| 01:43.33 | Thunder_Child | well, i think profiles are a crock of shit. they keep breaking on me then i have to start all over again, it's like reformating. |
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| 02:00.19 | kd3 | ...the hell? "Interestingly this means that Intel will be sponsoring a mobile Linux distro which will run on ARM." |
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| 02:06.57 | tekkub | TC, addon profiles? |
| 02:07.23 | Thunder_Child | tekkub: chrome/firefox |
| 02:07.33 | tekkub | chrome has profiles? |
| 02:07.37 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 02:07.41 | tekkub | firefox's, yea pointless |
| 02:07.43 | Thunder_Child | because i crashed it |
| 02:07.47 | tekkub | good one |
| 02:08.08 | tekkub | I never saw point for those |
| 02:08.24 | tekkub | "profiles" are a bad way to have multiple user settings in one user acocunt |
| 02:08.35 | tekkub | use fast user switching if you share a damn computer |
| 02:09.11 | tekkub | Win and Mac have them, and noone want to share a linux box |
| 02:10.58 | Matt646 | Don't take this the wrong way but one of the core ideas behind Unix is multi-user functionality. |
| 02:11.09 | Torhal | Matt646: Not on the Desktop. |
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| 02:15.40 | Thunder_Child | tekkub: did you see my link to you? |
| 02:16.20 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:16.22 | Shirik | someone make sense out of this |
| 02:16.30 | Shirik | regex foo.*bar matches |
| 02:16.33 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 02:16.39 | Shirik | regex foo[.]*bar does not match |
| 02:16.40 | Shirik | wtfhax? |
| 02:16.55 | Iriel | Matches what? |
| 02:17.06 | Iriel | The answer would be that there's something between foo and bar that isn't a period |
| 02:17.36 | Shirik | but . means anything |
| 02:17.42 | Iriel | Yes, and that matches |
| 02:17.50 | Iriel | But [.] means period, and that doesn't match |
| 02:17.59 | Shirik | oh I can't use . in a character class? :( |
| 02:18.04 | Iriel | You can, it means period |
| 02:18.17 | Iriel | It's pointless to have it mean 'wildcard anything' |
| 02:18.28 | Iriel | Because if it did [<whatever>.] would mean . |
| 02:18.51 | Iriel | In fact, I usually use [.] for literal period in RE's for readability |
| 02:18.53 | Shirik | well . doesn't match newlines :( |
| 02:19.07 | Iriel | Depends on your options |
| 02:19.45 | Shirik | unfortunately I don't have control over those options |
| 02:20.36 | Iriel | Some cool stuff here http://atlasobscura.com/obscura-day/ |
| 02:20.42 | Iriel | If anyone's local to one of the 'events' |
| 02:20.57 | Shirik | bleh, got disconnected |
| 02:21.07 | Shirik | anyway, I found a solution, (?:.|[\r\n]) |
| 02:21.07 | Matt646 | Greeat regex tester, no need to click buttons --> http://tools.netshiftmedia.com/regexlibrary/ |
| 02:21.09 | Shirik | as ugly as it is |
| 02:21.14 | Shirik | I have a better one :P |
| 02:21.25 | Shirik | full featured regex debugger |
| 02:21.55 | Matt646 | Pssh |
| 02:26.22 | WobWork | expresso |
| 02:26.34 | WobWork | free to use |
| 02:26.55 | Matt646 | Grrr the curse search box always makes me so angry when I search for something and its like 'I know you don't want me to but ima search for the top suggestion' |
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| 02:45.35 | DWSR | Matt646: Yeah, Curse's search is brutal. |
| 02:46.11 | DWSR | btw, Shirik |
| 02:46.28 | DWSR | www.gskinner.com/RegExr/ <- there is much win here. |
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| 02:50.57 | alestane | Just had someone in SW asking where the Orb of Translocation was. |
| 02:51.31 | Torhal | Hah |
| 02:54.14 | Lunessa | Iriel: Hrmm... Austin isn't too far, and I bet several friends would be willing to check that out. |
| 02:54.43 | Iriel | I got the last ticket for the pneumatic tubes |
| 02:54.46 | Iriel | I'm excited! |
| 02:54.49 | Iriel | I love tubes! |
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| 02:58.33 | Lunessa | pneumatic tubes are fun. Remember when all the SF writers projected that every city would have a system of delivery tubes for every conceivable need? |
| 02:59.30 | Kraps | is the guy raging over his account getting hacked real? |
| 02:59.54 | Kraps | i mean, is the video real? |
| 03:00.07 | Dagmar | Lunessa: According to some senators, they did. |
| 03:00.11 | Dagmar | "The internet is a series of tubes" |
| 03:01.25 | Lunessa | http://digg.com/celebrity/101_Greatest_George_Carlin_Quotes |
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| 03:01.48 | Lunessa | "Down the tubes -- hear that one a lot. People say, "Ah, the country is going down the tubes." What tubes? Have you seen any tubes? Where are these tubes? And where do they go? And how come there's more than one tube?" |
| 03:02.51 | alestane | "I used to be an Irish Catholic; now, I'm an American. |
| 03:02.51 | alestane | "You know, you grow." |
| 03:03.08 | Dagmar | Kraps: Where is this video? |
| 03:03.18 | Amarande | Lunessa: "This timeway is currently collapsing. What that may hold for the past, present and future is currently unknown." |
| 03:03.20 | Dagmar | I wish to partake in the suffering of a child |
| 03:03.57 | DWSR | Dagmar |
| 03:03.59 | DWSR | You slut. |
| 03:04.18 | Dagmar | Hey is WoW source supposed to be online? |
| 03:04.18 | DWSR | THM is full of much win. |
| 03:04.25 | Iriel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEh3nQ1S3Qk |
| 03:04.27 | DWSR | Dagmar: Client source? No? |
| 03:04.29 | Amarande | Dagmar: I recommend the Ultima series. |
| 03:04.31 | Kraps | Dagmar: its not a child, and someone in the know says hes trollin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdBrYfxSXWc |
| 03:04.45 | Dagmar | DWSR: No, actually I wondered why that timeway phrase sounded familiar |
| 03:04.46 | Amarande | Every Ultima from IV through IX gives you the opportunity to kill kids. LOL |
| 03:04.55 | Dagmar | I guess I hit the source for some server emulator project |
| 03:05.08 | Dagmar | DWSR: http://svn2.assembla.com/svn/patchdiff/src/bindings/scripts/scripts/zone/tanaris/tanaris.cpp |
| 03:05.49 | Dagmar | Kraps: He needs a new hobby |
| 03:05.55 | DWSR | Dagmar: Neat. |
| 03:05.59 | Dagmar | Making fun of fat nerds doesn't work if you're actually a fat nerd |
| 03:06.09 | DWSR | Dagmar: Anyway. |
| 03:06.15 | DWSR | The BT album is absolutely outstanding. |
| 03:06.48 | DWSR | Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. |
| 03:06.52 | DWSR | ^ win |
| 03:08.06 | WobWork | As a tauren, I tend to travel through SMC to get to UC |
| 03:08.36 | DWSR | WobWork: Why? |
| 03:08.46 | Lunessa | "I don't have pet peeves. I have major, psychotic fucking hatreds." |
| 03:08.47 | Dagmar | I should get my own personal moon or something from finding all these lunar elders |
| 03:08.53 | Dagmar | This is seriously tedious |
| 03:09.03 | WobWork | it made it easier to get around, especially if you need to get up top to the courtyard |
| 03:09.14 | WobWork | cause the only mount low slung enough on a tauren are the wolves |
| 03:09.23 | alestane | Not George Carlin, but excellent anyway: "Living in Lamont, Texas, taught me two things. The first is that God loves you and you're going to burn in Hell. The second is the sex is the filthiest, nestiest, dirtiest thing you can do and you should save it for the person you love most in the whole world." |
| 03:09.41 | alestane | s/the sex/that sex/ |
| 03:09.48 | WobWork | Â "Some people are spoiled. Don't eat them." |
| 03:10.02 | WobWork | also |
| 03:10.03 | WobWork | "Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice" |
| 03:10.40 | cog|away | Iriel: i saw that live a couple years ago :) |
| 03:10.52 | DWSR | The real reason that we canât have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post âThou shalt not steal,â âThou shalt not commit adultery,â and âThou shalt not lieâ in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment. |
| 03:11.08 | Iriel | cog|away: Me too (though almost 10 years now) |
| 03:11.42 | DWSR | cog|away |
| 03:12.12 | DWSR | Your wow-lua project...I just run an addon file through that as if it were a regular lua interpreter? |
| 03:12.18 | cog|away | i got to have a box of toblerone stolen from me by a blue man during the performance |
| 03:12.40 | cog|away | DWSR: uh... |
| 03:13.11 | Iriel | cog|away: I've yet to have personal attention at one of their shows - I thinkit's for the best |
| 03:13.19 | cog|away | it's just a standard lua distro with a few minor tweaks |
| 03:13.22 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:13.32 | DWSR | Iriel: BMG is really great. :) |
| 03:13.38 | Lunessa | Iriel: Ever been to Cirque de Solei? |
| 03:13.48 | cog|away | yep :) |
| 03:13.55 | DWSR | Which shows cog? |
| 03:14.05 | cog|away | well minus the "iriel" part |
| 03:14.34 | cog|away | ka, zumanity, and one other i can't remember |
| 03:15.09 | Iriel | Lunessa: Many of them, saw OvO last month |
| 03:15.32 | Iriel | or is it oVo |
| 03:15.35 | Iriel | I forget |
| 03:15.43 | Lunessa | *envy* I have been to 2. I keep meaning to go to the standing show in Vegas. |
| 03:16.02 | Iriel | ive been to 2 of those |
| 03:16.12 | DWSR | I've seen the one in Toronto. Dunno which one it is. |
| 03:17.12 | Iriel | Ka is pretty amazing just to watch the stage |
| 03:17.13 | DWSR | Alegria, apparently. |
| 03:17.25 | Iriel | Mystere is more 'traditional', it was the first I saw |
| 03:17.35 | DWSR | They're all amazing, frankly. |
| 03:17.37 | cog|away | ~huggle ConnectBot |
| 03:17.43 | Iriel | I saw Alegria last time it passed through here |
| 03:18.02 | Lunessa | The last one I went to was Quidaam |
| 03:18.38 | Iriel | I would've seen O last year but they were dark the week we were in town |
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| 03:19.11 | Duman | I saw Dralion when it went thru the bay area several years ago |
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| 03:19.37 | Duman | oddly enough, I stay at MGM every time I'm in Vegas, and I have yet to see Ka |
| 03:19.55 | DWSR | Cairenn |
| 03:20.01 | Lunessa | yeah, it's always a good time. Dralion was one I went to, and the clowns grabbed the guy sitting behind me for their bit before the "curtain up" |
| 03:20.42 | DWSR | My parents went to one and they were being led in by an actor and they didn't realize is. |
| 03:20.43 | DWSR | it* |
| 03:20.47 | DWSR | the one in Vegas. |
| 03:21.12 | Iriel | Probably Mystere |
| 03:21.21 | Iriel | I've seen them do that to people who are late |
| 03:21.54 | DWSR | they weren't late. |
| 03:22.18 | Iriel | By late I mean 'being seated after there are enough people to be an 'audience'' |
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| 03:22.27 | Iriel | I try and get to cirque shows EARLY to avoid that fate |
| 03:23.17 | Lunessa | *snicker* It looked like fun to me. |
| 03:23.19 | Iriel | Anyway. I recommend ovo to anyone who has a chance to see it |
| 03:23.25 | Iriel | It's in San Jose now (or soon will be) |
| 03:23.33 | DWSR | Iriel: Ah. |
| 03:24.04 | Lunessa | Sadly, travel is not happening right now. Saving up to go to something bigger - like BlizzCon. |
| 03:24.38 | Cairenn | DWSR: ? |
| 03:24.46 | DWSR | Cairenn: You been watching CTV most of the day? |
| 03:24.54 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:25.04 | DWSR | Did you see the fail that is Canadian BoarderX?\ |
| 03:25.06 | Cairenn | been out for ~2hrs just now, just got back in |
| 03:25.09 | Cairenn | no |
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| 03:25.20 | DWSR | Guy was ahead by a mile. |
| 03:25.23 | DWSR | In the finals. |
| 03:25.25 | DWSR | Comes second. |
| 03:25.52 | Cairenn | that's a shame |
| 03:26.31 | Cairenn | shoot, she just missed the triple |
| 03:26.38 | DWSR | This the canadians? |
| 03:29.20 | DWSR | oh wow. |
| 03:29.31 | DWSR | This pair is really not having a good run(?). |
| 03:29.49 | Cairenn | nope, that's three that she didn't land well (or at all) |
| 03:30.06 | Amarande | oops, did someone do a triple klutz instead of a triple lutz? :) |
| 03:30.13 | Cairenn | Amarande: indeed |
| 03:30.26 | Amarande | that's the *fun* part of figure skating though |
| 03:31.13 | Cairenn | and yes, DWSR, that's Anabelle and Cody |
| 03:32.17 | Amarande | has really never understood the draw of figure skating |
| 03:32.23 | Amarande | it's kinda artistic, but it doesn't really seem like a sport |
| 03:32.32 | Amarande | hell snowboarding is more of a sport than figure skating |
| 03:32.45 | Amarande | and I used to think of snowboarding as something teens did to impress girls during the winter |
| 03:32.47 | DWSR | It's disappointing. |
| 03:32.55 | Amarande | at least they're both more legitimate than nascar. |
| 03:32.56 | DWSR | but it's stopped surprising me that Canadians are failing |
| 03:33.35 | Amarande | I didn't even bother watching the Daytona, since I generally regard NASCAR now as only slightly more legitimate than the WWE. |
| 03:34.35 | Iriel | Apropros of nothing - Finally saw the movie "Moon" last night -- damn good stuff |
| 03:34.44 | Amarande | Iriel: the Twilight movie? |
| 03:34.49 | Iriel | Amarande: No. |
| 03:35.12 | Iriel | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/ |
| 03:35.13 | Iriel | ' |
| 03:36.01 | DWSR | Neat idea. |
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| 03:38.46 | DWSR | lulz, wow. |
| 03:38.52 | DWSR | That last spin was like spin fucking. |
| 03:39.39 | DWSR | Want to see the new Alice movie. |
| 03:39.46 | DWSR | Mostly because Johnny Depp plays a good crazy man. |
| 03:39.55 | DWSR | And it's the same chick from Sweeny Todd. |
| 03:40.03 | DWSR | Who *also* plays a good crazy chick. |
| 03:40.16 | alestane | Helena Bonham-Carter, Tim Burton's girlfriend. |
| 03:40.21 | DWSR | Yes, thank you |
| 03:40.29 | Iriel | And Tim Burton makes a good crazy movie |
| 03:40.35 | DWSR | Yeah, not to mention that. |
| 03:40.36 | alestane | Also plays Bellatrix leStrange in the later Harry Potter flicks. |
| 03:40.41 | DWSR | alestane: Yep. |
| 03:41.18 | alestane | (SPeaking of playing a good crazy chick.) |
| 03:41.57 | Jerub | heh, nascar. |
| 03:42.10 | DWSR | Speaking of Harry Potter movies, WTB the last ones. |
| 03:42.12 | DWSR | Soontime. |
| 03:43.20 | DWSR | Wow, everyone's falling tonight. |
| 03:43.31 | DWSR | The Canadians might be able to take this if they don't fail for once. |
| 03:44.03 | DWSR | Oh, and has anyone noticed that pairs is like ice foreplay? |
| 03:45.08 | Jerub | also, fucking win |
| 03:45.14 | Jerub | last weeks raid quest was marrowgar. |
| 03:45.22 | Jerub | this weeks is sarth :D |
| 03:46.21 | DWSR | If this were *any* other setting, the way that he is touching her would be considered foreplay. |
| 03:46.30 | DWSR | But if you put it on ice, it's not. |
| 03:46.36 | Matt646 | You can skip right to Sarth now can't you? |
| 03:46.37 | Jerub | DWSR: don't you know what they're going to be doing tonight? |
| 03:46.52 | DWSR | Matt646: Considering that Sarth3D is now a joke, yes. |
| 03:46.52 | Jerub | Matt646: 'skip' right to 'OS10+3D' sure. |
| 03:47.06 | DWSR | Do you still have to pull all of the trash in that instance? |
| 03:47.11 | DWSR | Jerub: Yeah, I know. |
| 03:47.18 | Matt646 | Err nvm, I was thinking Sapphiron for some reason |
| 03:47.49 | DWSR | Canadians next. :D |
| 03:47.50 | Jerub | DWSR: so technically, it /is/ foreplay. on ice. |
| 03:48.02 | DWSR | Jerub: hehe |
| 03:48.06 | DWSR | So, I say, let's cut the foreplay. |
| 03:48.09 | DWSR | Let's have ice fucking. |
| 03:48.36 | Dagmar | So last night we were kinda looking for some people to do the holiday bosses, my friend the mage and I. Finally found someone, he wanted to know if my friend, the mage, could tank it when she talked to him |
| 03:48.54 | Jerub | DWSR: there's a reason that's not done. |
| 03:48.59 | DWSR | Dagmar: Probably could. |
| 03:49.04 | DWSR | Jerub: Shrinkage? |
| 03:49.08 | Dagmar | Yeah just about, but the fun part is this |
| 03:49.13 | Jerub | DWSR: chafing. |
| 03:49.16 | DWSR | hehe |
| 03:49.30 | Dagmar | I can tank it with my monkey tho |
| 03:49.35 | DWSR | lulz |
| 03:49.45 | Dagmar | Not going to even THINK about trying that if the guy running the group is asking if the mage can tank |
| 03:49.52 | Jerub | DWSR: it's best if careful balance on steel bladed shoes is done prior to removal of those massive boots of doom, and some skimpy lycra, and a warm bed is used. |
| 03:50.04 | Dagmar | Like, so long as you keep the monkey out of "the stuff" it's bloody easy |
| 03:50.28 | DWSR | Come on Canadians! |
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| 03:50.35 | Dagmar | ...and I strongly suspect he's immune to it anyway, I'm just picku |
| 03:50.36 | DWSR | Don't fail! (No pressure). |
| 03:50.37 | Dagmar | er picky |
| 03:50.54 | DWSR | Dagmar: If it's not targetted, he's got a 90% reduction anyway. :P |
| 03:51.13 | Dagmar | I just know I don't lose him to "stuff on the floor" anymore |
| 03:51.37 | Dagmar | Lazy horde on my server |
| 03:51.41 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, the 90% avoidance + the knockback removal is really nice. |
| 03:51.57 | DWSR | Holy crap, the Canadians just did that double triple really well. |
| 03:51.58 | Dagmar | I just left Thunder Bluff after talking to that elder |
| 03:52.03 | Jerub | imho blizz needs to do something about level 80s exploiting the LFD system to do dungeon specific quests. |
| 03:52.09 | Dagmar | Did anyone aggro on me that time? Noooo... |
| 03:52.10 | DWSR | And fail. |
| 03:52.22 | DWSR | Jerub: ? |
| 03:52.28 | Dagmar | Jerub: What? |
| 03:52.48 | Jerub | i'm having trouble with my level 72 mage getting 80s in his norm randoms who are only there for the quest. |
| 03:53.03 | DWSR | Do they not stay |
| 03:53.03 | Jerub | i.e. the dungeon elders achievemnt or the bouquet of roses achievement. |
| 03:53.10 | Jerub | nope, bail as soon as they get it. |
| 03:53.15 | DWSR | Yeah, that's fail. |
| 03:53.25 | Dagmar | Why the hell don't they just do it in Heroic? |
| 03:53.29 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 03:53.33 | Jerub | had one chainpull through nexus, letting me die twice, then quit group as soon as they completed quest. |
| 03:53.44 | Dagmar | I've completed a bunch of dungeon quests while doing them as heroics |
| 03:53.48 | DWSR | Lunar Festival is the biggest PITA ever. |
| 03:53.55 | DWSR | I'm so glad I got it done already. |
| 03:53.58 | Jerub | I did however, leverage it. |
| 03:54.06 | Dagmar | dwsr: IF a horde had aggro'd me that time I would have been able to disengage just before cratering off the side |
| 03:54.07 | Jerub | I joined a group that was doing it. |
| 03:54.09 | Dagmar | IF. |
| 03:54.23 | Jerub | we had a 5 man group from our server going to all the norm dungeons for the quests. i joined them for the first 6 :) |
| 03:54.57 | DWSR | Dagmar: I tend to use my Circle wisely. |
| 03:55.18 | DWSR | Run in, place the port somewhere nearby, grab the elder, port. |
| 03:55.29 | Dagmar | Well, the irksome thing is that I still have a lot of that slow fall beer, in my bank. |
| 03:56.09 | DWSR | Cairenn: You watching this? All of the teams have had a fall so far tonight. |
| 03:57.48 | WobWork | Jerub: yeah we did the same |
| 03:57.53 | WobWork | ended up with a shadowpriest tank |
| 03:57.57 | Cairenn | yeah, and that last team was Jessica and Bryce :( |
| 03:57.57 | WobWork | then a warlock tank =P |
| 03:58.30 | Cairenn | s/team/pair/ |
| 03:58.35 | Dagmar | OMG. Hahah. Some level newb tauren took a shot at me as I was riding away |
| 03:58.54 | Dagmar | I don't even think he saw the pet before he was dead. |
| 03:59.10 | DWSR | Cairenn: Canada chokes again. |
| 03:59.16 | DWSR | Cairenn: Not to sound pessimistic. |
| 03:59.17 | Matt646 | It appears to be cold in that arena |
| 03:59.29 | DWSR | Matt646: hehe, yeah. |
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| 04:02.12 | DWSR | Did your stream just switch to speed skating? |
| 04:02.52 | Cairenn | they said they'll come back to figure skating later, now over to speed skating for a bit |
| 04:02.58 | DWSR | Cairenn: Yeah. |
| 04:03.06 | DWSR | I love the starting announcer. |
| 04:03.16 | DWSR | Head to the start. |
| 04:03.18 | DWSR | Ready? |
| 04:03.25 | DWSR | It's like it's a questi0on |
| 04:03.27 | DWSR | question* |
| 04:04.20 | Matt646 | NBC just switched to SnowboardX finals |
| 04:04.29 | DWSR | Matt646: That's a replay. |
| 04:04.38 | DWSR | s/replay/rerun./ |
| 04:04.48 | kdtresh | nbc needs to pull their heads out |
| 04:05.24 | DWSR | And Jeremy Wotherspoon fails. |
| 04:05.33 | DWSR | sighs |
| 04:05.35 | DWSR | Canada fails. |
| 04:06.01 | Adys | Hyb: Jesus o.o |
| 04:06.01 | Adys | Adys: That's what she said! |
| 04:06.01 | Adys | Adys: (I'm so awesome, I just made a Thats what she said joke that can be applied to a nun) |
| 04:07.09 | Cairenn | shakes her head at Adys |
| 04:07.54 | Adys | shakes Cairenn's head |
| 04:08.06 | Adys | shakes Cairenn's head at everyone else. |
| 04:08.13 | DWSR | hehe |
| 04:08.18 | Cairenn | hey, keep your hands to yourself! |
| 04:08.23 | Cairenn | swats at Adys |
| 04:08.28 | Adys | I'm not doing it with my hands |
| 04:08.32 | Cairenn | ! |
| 04:08.36 | DWSR | That's what she said. |
| 04:08.43 | Cairenn | keep everything else to yourself too1 |
| 04:08.44 | Cairenn | ! |
| 04:08.47 | Adys | ~dwsr-- |
| 04:09.25 | DWSR | whatwas tht for? |
| 04:09.34 | Adys | fun. |
| 04:09.54 | DWSR | ~karma |
| 04:09.54 | purl | dwsr has neutral karma |
| 04:10.10 | DWSR | heh |
| 04:12.54 | Lunessa | For those watching the winter olypics - http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-13722.html |
| 04:13.32 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 04:13.33 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 04:16.34 | DWSR | Dagmar |
| 04:17.07 | Dagmar | Yeah>? |
| 04:18.20 | DWSR | You listen to the new BT album? |
| 04:18.28 | DWSR | I can't get over how rediculously win this is. |
| 04:18.31 | DWSR | ~BT++ |
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| 04:18.59 | Dagmar | Yeah I've heard it |
| 04:19.08 | Dagmar | I'm somewhat unamused there's no vinyl yet |
| 04:19.14 | Dagmar | "Thanks, BT" |
| 04:19.17 | DWSR | heh. |
| 04:19.20 | DWSR | I'll take my FLAC. |
| 04:19.56 | DWSR | While it's CD-sourced, I'm pretty sure these headphones won't make the difference audible. |
| 04:20.10 | DWSR | However, my Samsung P3 plays FLAC (win) and *does* make it audible (also win) |
| 04:20.39 | DWSR | Hurray for an MP3 player that you can't get in Canada |
| 04:21.06 | DWSR | http://www.theperegrine.com/ <- What the shit? |
| 04:22.29 | DWSR | While the concept is neat, what the shit? |
| 04:22.48 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti. |
| 04:22.56 | Adys | concept is nothing new DWSR |
| 04:22.57 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Glove |
| 04:23.09 | DWSR | I didn't say it was new. |
| 04:23.11 | DWSR | I just said it was neat. |
| 04:23.35 | Adys | the concept of the wheel is neat as well, thats no reason to repeat that every gay :P |
| 04:23.37 | Adys | .. day |
| 04:24.48 | DWSR | "thereâs no reaching for a key or looking down to see where the hotkeys are" <--- People need to look down? |
| 04:24.57 | Iriel | That was news to me too |
| 04:25.08 | DWSR | These people aren't serious gamers, obviously. |
| 04:25.21 | Dagmar | Now you can play games *and* touch yourself at the same time. |
| 04:25.28 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:25.35 | DWSR | honestly. |
| 04:25.36 | Iriel | Hell, you can play games BY touching yourself |
| 04:25.38 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:25.45 | DWSR | ~Iriel++ |
| 04:25.50 | Iriel | Maybe they need a 'sheath' extension with more touch pads |
| 04:26.07 | DWSR | You mean, to make it more sensitive? |
| 04:26.07 | Dagmar | If you're the kind of geek that likes the idea of a particular hand gesture making your toon cast a spell, the power glove is probably for you |
| 04:26.25 | DWSR | Dagmar: The problem is that it's not gestures so much as it's tapping your fingers together. |
| 04:26.34 | Dagmar | Tapping, or holding |
| 04:26.48 | DWSR | Dagmar: It's really not at all different than using a keyboard ffs. |
| 04:26.53 | KarlKFI | i dont see that as a problem. doign casting motions all day would be tiring |
| 04:27.12 | DWSR | Especially since I spam Shadow Bolt as much as I can. |
| 04:27.23 | Jerub | Dagmar: uhh. |
| 04:27.31 | Dagmar | How likely are you to ever miss touching your thumb to your ring finger |
| 04:27.34 | Jerub | Dagmar: but how many ways can you give loken the finger... |
| 04:27.57 | DWSR | Dagmar: Depends on how drunk I am. |
| 04:28.37 | DWSR | Is there any way to cross-populate a project between WoWI and Curse? |
| 04:28.40 | Dagmar | I can see a use for the thing, but I don't even want to look to see how much it costs |
| 04:28.57 | DWSR | Dagmar: $129 USD. |
| 04:30.09 | Cairenn | DWSR: going from Curse (or anywhere else, including your computer, your personal SVN, where-ever) to WoWI: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7633-WoWIModUploader.html |
| 04:30.18 | Cairenn | I don't know that Curse has anything similar |
| 04:31.12 | DWSR | Cairenn: I want automagic. |
| 04:31.21 | DWSR | Also, WoWI only supports SVN? |
| 04:31.27 | Cairenn | that's about as close as you're going to get |
| 04:32.02 | Cairenn | for right now, although Dolby is working on adding a Git repository as well as our existing SVN |
| 04:32.09 | Shadowed | Double clicking a bat or running a slash command isn't exactly complicated |
| 04:32.14 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 04:32.34 | DWSR | Shadowed: I'm using a bunch of Curse's packager features. |
| 04:32.47 | PProvost | Push to curse. Download, upload to wowi |
| 04:32.49 | PProvost | Works for me |
| 04:33.03 | DWSR | PProvost: Yeah, obviously. As I said, I want automagic. |
| 04:33.05 | PProvost | Or take apart Shadowed's scripts and do it all in one shot |
| 04:33.15 | PProvost | Just http crap |
| 04:33.20 | DWSR | PProvost: I could probably write a PHP script to do it autom...oh wait. |
| 04:33.26 | PProvost | oh lord. php? |
| 04:33.27 | DWSR | No, akshully, I prolly couldn't. |
| 04:33.45 | DWSR | PProvost: What, you think I'm going to run the script locally? |
| 04:33.48 | DWSR | Are you out of your tree? |
| 04:34.08 | cog|away | anyone have any idea if leveling in cataclysm will be different? I hear people say "the whole thing's phased" but that's kind of ambiguous |
| 04:34.17 | DWSR | cog|away: Yes, it will be. |
| 04:34.17 | Shadowed | I did something for curse |
| 04:34.19 | Shadowed | sec |
| 04:34.24 | Shadowed | cog|away: they are redoing all the <60 zones |
| 04:34.31 | DWSR | cog|away: They're streamlining all the <60 zones. |
| 04:34.32 | Shadowed | and they are implementing more phasing yea |
| 04:34.40 | cog|away | holds off on his preiest then |
| 04:34.41 | DWSR | cog|away: And there's going to be more phasing I think, but I don't know for sure. |
| 04:35.07 | Shadowed | cog|away: With heirloom stuff, it's not a big deal to do 1-60 anyway |
| 04:35.28 | DWSR | Shadowed: Right now, CF/WA is automatically packaging my project, which is nice. I just want to take those packages and put them to WoWI automagically. |
| 04:35.29 | cog|away | i've got a 36 i was planning to turn gnome if it wasn't going to be particularly different |
| 04:35.33 | Shadowed | I know DWSR. |
| 04:35.52 | Jerub | which PvE heirloom tanking weapon should i get for my warrior? |
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| 04:36.05 | Shadowed | agh stupid shell |
| 04:36.06 | DWSR | Jerub: Which race? |
| 04:36.09 | DWSR | Shadowed: mhm. |
| 04:36.13 | Jerub | uh, orc. |
| 04:36.17 | Jerub | prot warrior |
| 04:36.34 | DWSR | Well, you should probably get an axe, if it's available, shouldn't you? ;) |
| 04:37.18 | Jerub | only axe is 2H |
| 04:37.41 | DWSR | Wait, why are you leveling Prot? |
| 04:37.55 | Shadowed | DWSR: https://gist.github.com/a6950acb288ac708fc2a |
| 04:38.40 | DWSR | Shadowed: Win. |
| 04:38.41 | cogwheel | what DWSR asked imo |
| 04:38.53 | Shadowed | it's a private script, use at your own risk etc etc |
| 04:38.55 | Shadowed | but I've never had any issues |
| 04:39.07 | cogwheel | sues Shadowed |
| 04:39.20 | Shadowed | not if I sue you first |
| 04:39.26 | DWSR | Shadowed: You care if I extend it |
| 04:39.31 | cogwheel | pre-countersue? |
| 04:39.34 | DWSR | s/extend/modify? |
| 04:39.44 | Shadowed | no |
| 04:39.47 | Shadowed | I wonder |
| 04:40.04 | cogwheel | barfs @ java |
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| 04:40.12 | Shadowed | why do you think it's a giant hack cogwheel :P |
| 04:40.15 | Shadowed | Antiarc: doing a RoR site to pull from Curse and upload to WoWI wouldn't be very hard would it |
| 04:40.33 | Shadowed | beyond the fact that it requires people to enter their login on WoWI |
| 04:40.44 | Antiarc | It would, because Curse uses a token-based flash downloader to counter wowmatrix :P |
| 04:40.52 | DWSR | Antiarc: Except you use the API keys. |
| 04:41.00 | DWSR | Antiarc: So, you actually work around that issue. |
| 04:41.02 | cogwheel | Shadowed: nah, "hacks" are the second stage of TDD imo |
| 04:41.08 | Shadowed | Antiarc: you can get around that if you login |
| 04:41.09 | Jerub | DWSR: because instant dungeons. |
| 04:41.10 | cogwheel | just /barf @ java though |
| 04:41.14 | Antiarc | I wasn't aware Curse provided a key for that |
| 04:41.20 | Shadowed | yea |
| 04:41.22 | DWSR | mhm |
| 04:41.57 | Shadowed | I'll have to make some simple website to upload from Curse -> WoWI or repo -> both |
| 04:41.58 | Matt646 | http://www.curseforge.com/home/api-key/ |
| 04:41.59 | Shadowed | hmmm |
| 04:42.01 | Shadowed | that'll be a fun project |
| 04:42.08 | Antiarc | Why use a web client? |
| 04:42.25 | Antiarc | Seems a small script to do the synching would be trivial |
| 04:42.25 | Shadowed | because it's more fun that way |
| 04:42.30 | Shadowed | I already have a desktop one |
| 04:42.34 | Shadowed | it's just evil |
| 04:42.41 | Cairenn | chuckles at her geeks <3 |
| 04:42.45 | Antiarc | you could roll something together like that in Ruby easily |
| 04:42.48 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 04:42.49 | Shadowed | excellent |
| 04:42.52 | Antiarc | Even if WowI doesn't provide an API, just use Mechanize |
| 04:42.53 | Shadowed | that will be the next plan |
| 04:43.00 | Shadowed | ooo fancy |
| 04:43.16 | Antiarc | It's a headless browser |
| 04:43.23 | Antiarc | Works fine for that sort of things |
| 04:43.36 | DWSR | The advantage of using a web client would be that you can use the browser's cookies to spoof sessions. |
| 04:43.45 | Antiarc | Mechanize uses cookies. |
| 04:43.48 | Antiarc | See: headless browser. |
| 04:43.52 | DWSR | Yeah, but you have to set them the first time. |
| 04:43.58 | DWSR | They already exist in the browser. |
| 04:44.11 | Antiarc | Only on the target domain. |
| 04:44.35 | DWSR | Eh, true |
| 04:44.44 | Shadowed | damn security |
| 04:44.47 | DWSR | Also |
| 04:44.54 | DWSR | What about converting descriptions? |
| 04:44.55 | Jerub | DWSR: prot warrior means every time i log into him (which is once a week) I do a single dungeon and get a whole level. |
| 04:45.03 | Shadowed | Use BBCode. |
| 04:45.18 | DWSR | Shadowed: Yeah, but that means we need a matrix for conversion between Curse's formats and BBCode. |
| 04:45.27 | Shadowed | uh, curse can use BBCode |
| 04:45.30 | Antiarc | Nokogiri to scrape the description and dump it into a neutral format |
| 04:45.31 | Antiarc | Not that hard. |
| 04:45.38 | Antiarc | Or if you have the source, pull that |
| 04:45.42 | DWSR | Shadowed: Yeah, but I'm using the WikiCreole. |
| 04:45.47 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, depends on the dungeon |
| 04:45.51 | Shadowed | well, you're screwed then |
| 04:46.01 | ZorbaTHut | doesn't work reliably past, like, level 20 :( |
| 04:46.06 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: of course, it's give or take. |
| 04:46.11 | DWSR | Shadowed: Shouldn't be hard to convert. Just need to make a conversion matrix. |
| 04:46.21 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: it is with heirlooms and rested xp |
| 04:46.21 | ZorbaTHut | I still haven't managed to complete UBRS on my rogue despite, like, five attempts |
| 04:46.23 | Shadowed | It would be simpler to just use BBCode rather than convert it all |
| 04:46.42 | ZorbaTHut | I disagree, I've got four characters leveling up via heirlooms and rested XP. none of them get one level per dungeon ;) |
| 04:46.45 | Shadowed | s/convert/auto convert/ |
| 04:47.23 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 04:47.36 | DWSR | Initially, but it's fairly trivial to convert. |
| 04:48.46 | DWSR | Also, should we pull from Curse or from WA/CF? |
| 04:48.58 | DWSR | I'm guessing Curse, since that's what 99% of people care about. |
| 04:49.32 | Cairenn | you should have WoWI be your main and push to Curse :p |
| 04:50.15 | DWSR | Cairenn: Well, considering we're planning to make the script omni-directional.. :P |
| 04:50.31 | DWSR | However, I must admit that CF/WA is much better in terms of development tools. |
| 04:51.02 | Shadowed | I need to write something to duplicate the curse stuff too |
| 04:51.04 | Shadowed | so much to do |
| 04:51.10 | Jerub | also, why is wowwiki listing an heirloom weapon as being only for level 1-59 for warrior? |
| 04:51.13 | Cairenn | hugs Shadowed |
| 04:51.35 | Jerub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Heirloom#Weapons.2C_accessories.2C_misc. |
| 04:51.37 | Shadowed | so little time |
| 04:51.39 | Shadowed | stupid time |
| 04:52.16 | DWSR | Cairenn: When WoWI gets Git, I'll definitely just start mirroring. |
| 04:52.23 | DWSR | But, until then, dirty awful hacks abound! |
| 04:55.11 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: okay, well, i probably have'nt collected very good data then. |
| 04:56.52 | ZorbaTHut | it is definitely a gloriously fast way of leveling up, however. |
| 04:57.08 | ZorbaTHut | especially if you can either largely skip queues (i.e. tank or heal) or just leave the window in the background in a queue |
| 04:57.25 | ZorbaTHut | even if I can't seem to win the Bogstrok Scale Cloak on my death knight :( |
| 04:57.45 | ZorbaTHut | why the fuck does everyone want that tanking cloak |
| 04:58.54 | Jerub | i'm nearly halfway to my 3rd T10 piece! exciting :) |
| 04:59.14 | ZorbaTHut | you and your "tier ten" |
| 04:59.23 | ZorbaTHut | it's sad, random pugs are starting to be better geared than my main |
| 04:59.32 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: lol |
| 04:59.43 | Adys | it's sad, your main has worse gear than random pugs |
| 04:59.48 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: are you at least able to do the weekly raid? |
| 04:59.56 | Adys | but sarcasm aside I agree it's retarded |
| 05:00.06 | ZorbaTHut | they've been grinding up triumph badges and frost badges, and I stopped raiding halfway through ToC, before we even hit heroic |
| 05:00.08 | Jerub | I <3 having someone undergeared in a pug |
| 05:00.18 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I probably could if I wanted to, but |
| 05:00.19 | ZorbaTHut | effort |
| 05:00.22 | Jerub | I check the date on their hitting 80 and tell them congrats and stuff. |
| 05:00.30 | ZorbaTHut | adys, I don't actually agree that it's retarded, I think it's perfectly reasonable |
| 05:00.42 | ZorbaTHut | I said it was sad, not that I thought it was a bad idea from a game design point of view ;) |
| 05:01.10 | Adys | I think it's a bad idea to give the opportunity to every type of gamer to be on equal grounds |
| 05:01.35 | ZorbaTHut | well, luckily, they're not |
| 05:01.36 | Adys | giving epics to everyone got old in bc |
| 05:01.42 | ZorbaTHut | raiders are still vastly above non-raiders |
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| 05:01.55 | Jerub | yeah, i only have to look at my guildmates to see that. |
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| 05:02.12 | Jerub | I'm running around with 43k ub health, and our barely-raiding tank guildmates are pushing 33. |
| 05:02.15 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: but raiding got so easy and rewarding that there are barely any non-raider left |
| 05:02.19 | ZorbaTHut | it's just that I'm now a non-raider, and a lazy one at that, so I'm falling behind even the dedicated non-raiders |
| 05:02.21 | Jerub | i have that outside of tank form. |
| 05:02.21 | ZorbaTHut | adys, *good* |
| 05:02.27 | ZorbaTHut | holy shit how can you consider that a bad thing |
| 05:02.48 | Adys | exclusive content is the thrill you get in a game |
| 05:02.49 | Jimboo | Any UI coder's around want to make some money? =\ |
| 05:02.54 | ZorbaTHut | adys, hard modes, baby |
| 05:03.00 | Adys | no, not that kind of thrill |
| 05:03.15 | Adys | Im talking about the thrill you get the first time you go in an instance not many people have seen |
| 05:03.32 | ZorbaTHut | *shrug* honestly, that's a mug's game from a game designer perspective |
| 05:03.43 | Adys | the thrill of discovery |
| 05:03.50 | ZorbaTHut | that's people wanting to do better, not for the sake of doing better, but for the sake of being able to be smug and superior over others |
| 05:03.51 | Jerub | i hate the first time. i like the 5th time. |
| 05:03.59 | Jerub | I like beign able to do something hard and then go and do it again. |
| 05:04.10 | ZorbaTHut | adys, hard mode encounters. early progression raiding. find a group of people who promise not to read walkthroughs, then go. |
| 05:04.11 | Jerub | we 1shot voa25 yesterday with an ungearchecked pug. |
| 05:04.11 | Jimboo | Anyone got a tutorial on slash commands? |
| 05:04.15 | Jerub | that was fucking awesome. |
| 05:04.31 | Adys | !g wow slash command addon tutorial |
| 05:04.32 | batbot | Adys: Creating a slash command - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of ... <http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command> |
| 05:05.05 | Jerub | (HOLY SHIT NO KITTY I'VE EVER SEEN IN A RAID KNOWS HOW TO SHRED) |
| 05:05.18 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: thats not the point |
| 05:05.23 | Adys | did you raid pre bc? |
| 05:05.24 | Jimboo | ty Adys |
| 05:05.34 | Adys | (Im curious) |
| 05:05.49 | ZorbaTHut | adys, no, I didn't, I only got into it in late BC |
| 05:05.56 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, have I told you why I stopped raiding? |
| 05:05.58 | Adys | bah |
| 05:06.12 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: maybe, but i tend to ignore people when they say stuff. |
| 05:06.18 | ZorbaTHut | I got a buff/debuff uptime monitor. |
| 05:06.33 | ZorbaTHut | I did one raid with it and realized that my guild was never going to be good. |
| 05:06.35 | ZorbaTHut | I stopped. |
| 05:06.48 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Get a better guild then |
| 05:06.54 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, best guild on the faction |
| 05:07.05 | DWSR | The thing is that good guilds make raiding less of a time sink. |
| 05:07.18 | Adys | I dont think people who havent seen pre bc can truly feel how wow can be when there is real unique content in the game |
| 05:07.19 | DWSR | When everyone shows up to raid, and I mean really shows up with their heads in the game, raids do not take that much time. |
| 05:07.22 | Jerub | 200 mangles, 100 shreds, with a beartank. omfg. |
| 05:07.39 | DWSR | You can blow through Lower Spire and Plagueworks in ICC in 2 hours with a good group. |
| 05:07.42 | Adys | ugh |
| 05:07.45 | Adys | double negative ftl |
| 05:07.46 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, we managed that once in a while in 10-man, but never managed it with 25-man |
| 05:07.55 | ZorbaTHut | we couldn't even get people to flask reliably in 25-man |
| 05:08.01 | ZorbaTHut | "oh well it probably won't make a difference" |
| 05:08.11 | Jerub | is there a haste flask? |
| 05:08.14 | DWSR | No. |
| 05:08.26 | Jerub | my SP is at 3100 now, and I need to regem/reenchant to haste |
| 05:08.30 | Jerub | (my raiding tree) |
| 05:08.30 | ZorbaTHut | end result: faction first yogg-saron kill, two months before 3.3 came out, decked out in solid 245 gear. |
| 05:08.42 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: What server are you on? |
| 05:08.51 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, Shattered Halls alliance |
| 05:08.54 | DWSR | fail |
| 05:09.23 | DWSR | Catalyst? |
| 05:09.30 | ZorbaTHut | yup |
| 05:09.38 | Jimboo | aslong as you have a .toc and the deps in a folder in your interface\addons - it should show up in addon's list even if the code isnt complete? |
| 05:09.51 | ZorbaTHut | jimboo, yes, but if you only just added them, you may have to restart WoW |
| 05:09.56 | ZorbaTHut | it only scans the directories when it starts up |
| 05:10.06 | Adys | i dont know about you ZorbaTHut |
| 05:10.43 | Adys | but personally, one of the things i get most excited about when trying out a new mmo is going around higher level content, empty zones and what not |
| 05:11.10 | ZorbaTHut | see, I don't. I enjoy challenges, and I enjoy overcoming challenges |
| 05:11.20 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: You guys looking for a Demo lock? |
| 05:11.28 | ZorbaTHut | I know I won't be the first to see stuff, and I sorta don't care. I want to try my skills against the system. |
| 05:11.38 | Adys | you dont have to be the first to see stuff |
| 05:11.43 | Adys | its about seeing new stuff |
| 05:11.46 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, dude, don't come to my server. I mean seriously. stay away. you'll regret it so hard |
| 05:11.50 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 05:11.53 | DWSR | meh, true. |
| 05:12.01 | Adys | having a small taste of whats waiting for you |
| 05:12.10 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Wow. |
| 05:12.13 | ZorbaTHut | (i think we're full up on raiders right now, but I honestly haven't raided with them for months, so) |
| 05:12.14 | DWSR | Your guild's gear is so bad. |
| 05:12.26 | Adys | and by the way thats the whole reason why I started datamining and shit at all |
| 05:12.45 | Adys | you know |
| 05:12.47 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, we've never managed to do hard modes during the time when it's, you know, new content |
| 05:12.55 | DWSR | I run 10 mans that only get up to Festergut -> http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=us.emerald-dream.x%C3%A4ndros |
| 05:12.57 | ZorbaTHut | adys, but why does that become less interesting if other people have gotten there also? |
| 05:12.59 | DWSR | I don't run 25s. |
| 05:13.25 | DWSR | I also have skipped ~4 weeks of daily dungeons |
| 05:13.41 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: it doesnt, theres just a big difference between "walking around in naxxramas for the first time when everyone is stuck in bwl" |
| 05:13.54 | ZorbaTHut | so what you're saying is that you want to get there first? |
| 05:13.55 | Adys | and "walking around in naxxramas for the first time while everyone else is pugging icecrown" |
| 05:14.12 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, you're not making up your mind here |
| 05:14.16 | ZorbaTHut | do you want to be first, or not? |
| 05:14.23 | Adys | i dont care about being "first" |
| 05:14.27 | ZorbaTHut | because if you do, then my answer is "yeah, I don't care about being first" |
| 05:14.33 | Adys | i care about discovering content, however |
| 05:14.36 | ZorbaTHut | but if you think you don't, then you seem to be deluding yourself |
| 05:14.44 | ZorbaTHut | discovering it for yourself, or for other people? |
| 05:14.48 | Adys | being "amongst the first ones to see it" makes it even more enjorable |
| 05:14.52 | Adys | enjoyable even |
| 05:15.05 | Adys | also, i think one of the greatest things wow did back in alpha when designing the original shit was the IF->SW flight path |
| 05:15.14 | Adys | going above SG/BS |
| 05:15.38 | DWSR | Anyone in here in a raiding guild that's looking for a geared Demo lock? |
| 05:15.52 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I dunno who you're comparing your gear to, we've got people better-geared than that |
| 05:16.01 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Average gear level. |
| 05:16.11 | ZorbaTHut | oh, we've got a pile of alts and stuff |
| 05:16.14 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Also, note that I'm significantly behind in terms of potential maximum gear. |
| 05:16.14 | ZorbaTHut | that's pretty dang meaningless |
| 05:16.33 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, I'm just going through the top ranks and discarding any serious outliers. |
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| 05:16.52 | Jimboo | ZorbaTHut ty ofr your response earlier |
| 05:17.00 | Adys | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=8916 |
| 05:17.11 | Jimboo | for* |
| 05:17.43 | Jerub | DWSR: willing to raid in australian timezones? I know guilds on oceanic that are recruiting :P |
| 05:18.10 | DWSR | Jerub: Probably not, unless it's weekends. |
| 05:18.41 | Adys | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=3972 hehe old kara |
| 05:23.26 | DWSR | Anyone else? |
| 05:24.17 | Adys | pick a rl friend who plays wow |
| 05:24.24 | Adys | get in his guild |
| 05:24.30 | Adys | raid once in a while |
| 05:24.37 | Adys | actually enjoy the game and profit |
| 05:25.03 | Thunder_Child | what Adys said |
| 05:25.09 | Thunder_Child | works like a charm |
| 05:25.46 | DWSR | Adys: Enjoying the game for me means smacking heroic modes around like they're my bitch |
| 05:25.59 | ZorbaTHut | that's why I'm seriously considering joining goonswarm on mal'ganis |
| 05:26.06 | ZorbaTHut | 'cause I'll be able to just hop in and beat monsters around |
| 05:27.23 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/02/4357020886_ab5431706c_b.jpg |
| 05:27.29 | Jerub | isn't mal'ganis one of those long queue servers? |
| 05:27.44 | Shirik | awesome, Thunder_Child |
| 05:28.05 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: well i know you have all of them fail things lying around |
| 05:28.12 | Shirik | yup! |
| 05:28.14 | Shirik | I loved E5 |
| 05:28.34 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: If they're halfway decent, let me know if they're looking for a demo lock |
| 05:28.34 | Adys | someone please tell me im not the only one not getting it |
| 05:28.45 | DWSR | T_C: Reading lifehacker. |
| 05:28.58 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: no i'm not |
| 05:29.10 | ZorbaTHut | goonswarm doesn't recruit for skill, they recruit for being a goon |
| 05:29.11 | DWSR | That article was posted on there |
| 05:29.22 | Thunder_Child | be that as it may, i am not reading lifehacker |
| 05:29.29 | ZorbaTHut | if you're a member of SA, you can get in. if you're not, you can't. (with some errata in that if you've got a friend who is, you can) |
| 05:31.08 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, mal'ganis is possibly one of the highest-population servers there is, as well as being one of the most faction-imbalanced |
| 05:33.32 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: man, that'd suck so hard. |
| 05:34.18 | Jerub | I've found a guild i really like, they've got a really really good raidleader, on my server. |
| 05:34.45 | Jimboo | if i already know another addons slash commands.. how would i go about using them with my addon..? |
| 05:35.50 | ZorbaTHut | that's really another thing keeping me on my server |
| 05:35.53 | ZorbaTHut | I actually like the guys in my guild |
| 05:36.02 | ZorbaTHut | they're kind of crummy raiders but I think they're nice people :( |
| 05:36.54 | Jerub | yeah, i've ranted about this before. |
| 05:39.56 | cogwheel | huggles F# |
| 05:41.55 | Jimboo | whats the lua.com/demo site? |
| 05:42.02 | Jimboo | seems to be down or i got the url wrong |
| 05:42.56 | eidolarr | http://www.lua.org/demo.html |
| 05:44.04 | Jimboo | ty |
| 05:48.21 | Jimboo | SlashCmdList is obviously apart of FrameXML yes? |
| 05:50.00 | Shirik | lua> ("a\nb"):match("a.b") |
| 05:50.01 | lua_bot | Shirik: ab |
| 05:52.26 | Jerub | considers just becoming his guild raidleader |
| 05:52.46 | Jerub | somehow i prefer being a blunt meatstick than raid leading. |
| 05:53.55 | DWSR | nn |
| 05:55.59 | Jimboo | i have a folder named "AutoMailer" i have the .toc and everything in there.. i restarted wow. any reason why AutoMailer isnt in the addon list? |
| 05:56.55 | Dagmar | You not actually restarting WoW, you putting it in the wrong directory, or it not actually being an addon, but instead just some random files. |
| 05:56.57 | Dagmar | Take your pick. |
| 05:57.37 | Jimboo | I am actually restarting wow, I am actually putting it in Interface\Addons\ - and it is an addon |
| 05:57.43 | Jimboo | Thanks for treating my like a retard btw |
| 05:58.01 | ZorbaTHut | well, dagmar's right |
| 05:58.10 | ZorbaTHut | that's pretty much the list of things that you could be screwing up. you're doing one of them. |
| 05:58.27 | ZorbaTHut | is the .toc named exactly the same as the directory? |
| 05:58.32 | ZorbaTHut | it may or may not be case-sensitive, I forget |
| 05:58.36 | ZorbaTHut | well |
| 05:58.39 | ZorbaTHut | more like I never found out |
| 05:58.57 | Dagmar | Merely exiting to the character select screen won't do it. |
| 06:00.19 | Jimboo | I understand what restart means. |
| 06:03.49 | Jimboo | C:\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\AutoMailer <- directory: Contents: mail.lua AutoMailer.xml AutoMailer.toc -> toc contents interface 30300 mail.lua AutoMailer.xml |
| 06:03.53 | Jimboo | restarted wow |
| 06:04.02 | Jimboo | reoppened C:\Games\World of Warcraft\wow.exe |
| 06:04.06 | Jimboo | still nothing |
| 06:04.24 | DWSR | ##Interface: 30300 |
| 06:04.42 | DWSR | Also, I believe you need a Name and Author field as well. |
| 06:04.55 | Jimboo | yea i have all that.. just didnt want to spam this channel. |
| 06:05.18 | DWSR | pastebin |
| 06:05.26 | DWSR | points to the topic |
| 06:05.34 | Jimboo | <3 |
| 06:05.49 | DWSR | Pastebin all of the files in the addon directory please. |
| 06:05.54 | Dagmar | So, looks like it falls under "not actually an addon" |
| 06:05.57 | Dagmar | Imagine that. |
| 06:06.02 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 06:07.51 | DWSR | Dagmar: Ping |
| 06:07.57 | Dagmar | Hm? |
| 06:08.02 | DWSR | Dagmar: Got a mix I want you to hear. |
| 06:08.10 | DWSR | that I'm just sort of putzing around with in Ableton Live. |
| 06:11.26 | DWSR | Just rendering to V2. |
| 06:13.54 | eidolarr | Jimboo: could it be a Vista/W7 permissions problem? |
| 06:14.09 | eidolarr | otws we would need a paste of the toc |
| 06:18.15 | Jerub | waits patiently for kernel to compile. |
| 06:18.23 | Jerub | * may not actually be patient. |
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| 06:22.43 | Dewin | *beats ubuntu, ATI, and WoW over the head with a large mallet* |
| 06:23.18 | Jerub | Dewin: hey, at least you don't have intel like some of the losers here. |
| 06:23.39 | DWSR | points at Jerub |
| 06:24.11 | DWSR | Why are you compiling a new kernel Jerub? |
| 06:24.25 | Jerub | DWSR: you know how there are very few reasons to compile your own kernels? |
| 06:24.33 | Jerub | DWSR: I have full house. |
| 06:24.40 | DWSR | Elaborate. |
| 06:24.44 | Dewin | Jerub: WoW was crashing on startup. |
| 06:24.56 | Dewin | After some fiddling, I managed to convince my system that I don't have any ATI cards... |
| 06:24.59 | Dewin | >.> |
| 06:25.28 | Jerub | DWSR: we have a pile of patches on netfilter, a custom kernel config that isn't supprted by mainstream kernels, patches we've removed from upstream because they're buggy, and I'm currently analysing a regression caused by upstream. |
| 06:25.43 | DWSR | nice |
| 06:25.48 | Jerub | oh, and our own kernel modules built against this. |
| 06:25.58 | DWSR | fail |
| 06:26.14 | Jimboo | <OnClick>AutoMailMainFrame.Hide()</OnClick> <- that all you need or wrapped with function? |
| 06:27.21 | Jerub | puts his cards back down. |
| 06:30.18 | Jimboo | hmm it gave an error when i clicked it saying nil value? |
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| 06:31.56 | DWSR | . -> : |
| 06:34.49 | DWSR | Dagmar: I'll throw you a link in the morning or something |
| 06:35.00 | DWSR | upload's shit here, going to take like 2h and I'm tired. |
| 06:36.44 | Dagmar | k |
| 06:38.03 | Jimboo | Message: ..\AddOns\AutoMailer\mail.lua line 89: CreateFrame: Unknown frame type 'AutoMailInteract' - can someone link me to CreateFrame doc? |
| 06:38.38 | mikma | !api CreateFrame |
| 06:38.39 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 06:38.46 | Jimboo | ty |
| 06:40.13 | Jimboo | so id just use CreateFrame("Frame") - all it has is the MAIL_SHOW registered. |
| 06:40.34 | Jimboo | meh ill try it first.. one sec |
| 06:41.26 | mikma | local f = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 06:41.44 | mikma | f:RegisterEvent("MAIL_SHOW") |
| 06:42.20 | mikma | f:SetScript("OnEvent", funtion() print("FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU") end) |
| 06:43.20 | Jimboo | oh so you cant have the script in fr:RegisterEvent("MAIL_SHOW", function()) ? |
| 06:43.50 | mikma | with Ace3 you might |
| 06:44.10 | Jimboo | ahh ok |
| 06:44.22 | Jimboo | better do it your way just to be safe. |
| 06:44.49 | mikma | its plain lua, learning that first is a better way imho |
| 06:45.17 | Jimboo | Also.. In my XML - I got a close button with the <OnClick>AutoMailMainFrame.Hide()</OnClick> <- am i calling that wrong? |
| 06:45.26 | Jimboo | should i wrap it in a dummy function =\ |
| 06:46.01 | mikma | <OnClick>AutoMailMainFrame:Hide()</OnClick>, like dwsr said |
| 06:46.03 | Jimboo | [string "*:OnClick"] line 1: Attempt to find 'this' in non-table object (used '.' instead of ':' ?) |
| 06:46.20 | Jimboo | Oh very sorry guys.. |
| 06:46.21 | Jimboo | ty |
| 06:46.26 | Jimboo | DUH |
| 06:46.28 | mikma | <0831> <DWSR> . -> : |
| 06:46.50 | Jimboo | tyty Mikk |
| 06:46.50 | Jimboo | mikma* |
| 06:46.52 | mikma | tab and fail =D |
| 06:47.00 | Jimboo | lol yuh :D |
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| 07:01.18 | Shirik | Of course fox would be the first to report this http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586025,00.html |
| 07:03.42 | Dagmar | Why do you even pay attention to the Retard Network anymore |
| 07:04.19 | Shirik | long story how I came across that |
| 07:04.26 | Dagmar | That *entire* article the news equivalent of trollbait |
| 07:05.20 | mikma | so, why and when did they remove the "land" from the Hollywood-sign? |
| 07:07.08 | Jerub | reset tonight? |
| 07:07.45 | Dagmar | mikma: 1949, because they were freaking cheapskates |
| 07:08.03 | mikma | lol what |
| 07:08.08 | Dagmar | I'm serious |
| 07:08.21 | Dagmar | In 1949 the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce fixed it up |
| 07:08.29 | mikma | they redid the letters and "land" cost too much? |
| 07:08.30 | Dagmar | The 'H' had fallen over. |
| 07:08.53 | Jerub | wait. |
| 07:08.54 | mikma | ollywoodland |
| 07:09.01 | Jerub | hollywood was once hollylandwood ? |
| 07:09.09 | mikma | yeap |
| 07:09.10 | Dagmar | They tore down the 'LAND' bits instead of bothering to repair them like they did the rest. |
| 07:09.14 | Dagmar | Hollywoodland |
| 07:09.41 | mikma | hehe, cheapskates yeah |
| 07:10.06 | mikma | do they repair/clean the signs now? |
| 07:10.41 | tekkub | Holandlywood |
| 07:10.47 | tekkub | Holand bitched |
| 07:12.54 | Thunder_Child | fail tekkub, just fail |
| 07:15.20 | mikma | AD (anno domini?) is after christ, whats before christ? |
| 07:15.30 | Dagmar | Nothing. |
| 07:15.41 | mikma | interesting |
| 07:15.41 | Dagmar | Pay more attention in church. |
| 07:15.50 | mikma | i am atheist lol |
| 07:15.57 | Dagmar | I'm agnostic |
| 07:16.04 | Thunder_Child | BC |
| 07:16.11 | mikma | acnestick |
| 07:16.28 | mikma | thunder_child: yeah but in latin? |
| 07:16.37 | Dagmar | Snarkist sect, Sarcasonian |
| 07:20.57 | Thunder_Child | Pro Sarcalogos |
| 07:21.00 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
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| 07:43.57 | Jimboo | i want to register multiple events to one frame one is ADDON_LOADED and the other is MAIL_SHOW any ideas? |
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| 07:49.51 | Jimboo | pastebinning my prob |
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| 08:31.40 | Jimboo | moment of truth people time to open a mailbox |
| 08:31.41 | Jimboo | :O |
| 08:45.58 | Jimboo | http://www.trendhure.com/vagina-im-nacken-video/ <- OH MY FUCKING GOD |
| 08:46.03 | Jimboo | :DD |
| 08:52.33 | Cairenn | Jimboo: NSFW tag next time, please - and really, we don't need full out porn linked in here |
| 08:53.18 | Jimboo | sorry its not porn. its a 'prank' of sorts |
| 08:53.27 | Cairenn | whatever, it's not appropriate |
| 08:53.38 | Jimboo | my mistake |
| 08:53.48 | Jimboo | NSFW?. you mean on pastebin/ |
| 08:53.49 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/02/15/funny-pictures-fistful-of-cute/ |
| 08:54.25 | zenzio | Jimboo: no, just add "NSFW" before or after what you're saying that's (probably) not safe for work |
| 08:54.47 | Jimboo | oh ok will remember |
| 08:54.58 | Jimboo | url says vagina tho! just to point that out lol wont happen again |
| 08:55.30 | Jimboo | if (AutoMailEnable:GetChecked() and AutoMailRC:GetText()) then - <- That line - Message: ..\AddOns\AutoMailer\mail.lua line 95: |
| 08:55.30 | Jimboo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.13 | Jimboo | AutoMailEnable was checked. |
| 08:56.25 | zenzio | is this your own code? |
| 08:56.33 | Jimboo | yes. |
| 08:56.42 | Jimboo | im from php and mysql tho |
| 08:56.46 | Jimboo | so its shonky. |
| 08:57.04 | zenzio | you may want to try IsChecked or something like that then |
| 08:57.14 | Jimboo | ty will try :) |
| 08:57.14 | zenzio | or just check wowwiki/wowprogramming for the correct name |
| 08:57.36 | Jimboo | the API told me GetChecked would return true or false if the checkbutton was ticked or not. |
| 08:57.44 | Jimboo | so yea ill try IsChecked anyway |
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| 09:02.44 | Jimboo | zenzio: Same result: Message: ..\AddOns\AutoMailer\mail.lua line 95: attempt to call method 'IsChecked' (a nil value) |
| 09:02.53 | Jimboo | any other possible reason it could be malfunctioning? |
| 09:03.25 | Jimboo | the toc is attached to both .xml and .lua so it should be getting the checked status as far as i know |
| 09:05.08 | zenzio | did you check the sites to see what the function is really called? I was just guessing |
| 09:05.17 | zenzio | anyhow, what sort of object are you calling this on? |
| 09:05.47 | Shadowed | !api getchecked |
| 09:05.48 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getchecked': CheckButton:GetCheckedTexture, CheckButton:GetChecked |
| 09:06.06 | zenzio | don't spoil him, he has to learn |
| 09:06.15 | Shadowed | !api learn |
| 09:06.16 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'learn': LearnPreviewTalents, LearnTalent, LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB, COMPANION_UNLEARNED, COMPANION_LEARNED |
| 09:06.19 | Jimboo | a Checkbutton of course. |
| 09:06.26 | Shadowed | oh right there are actual APIs with learn in them |
| 09:06.27 | Shadowed | shame |
| 09:06.54 | zenzio | then it should be GetChecked(), which means that you appear to be calling it on the wrong object or something |
| 09:07.05 | Jimboo | let me tinker with something quickly. |
| 09:07.09 | Jimboo | will repost in a min |
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| 09:18.11 | Jimboo | eh.. <CheckButton name="AutoMailEnable"> <- in xml so it is the correct object Message: ..\AddOns\AutoMailer\mail.lua line 95: attempt to call method 'GetChecked' (a nil value) |
| 09:18.33 | Jimboo | 95:if (AutoMailEnable:GetChecked() and AutoMailRC:GetText()) then |
| 09:19.41 | mikma | so, why are you doing it in .xml when you can do it in .lua? |
| 09:19.50 | Fisker | you wouldn't |
| 09:19.55 | Shadowed | sure you can |
| 09:20.10 | Shadowed | Lua is usually easier, but no reason you can't use XML |
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| 09:21.18 | Jimboo | im not sure... i just came from the webdesign side of things so i kinda fell into XML |
| 09:21.27 | Jimboo | although any tutorial on doing it in lua? |
| 09:23.20 | Jimboo | but anyway its a Checkbutton so why would it return a nilvalue. |
| 09:23.56 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11 |
| 09:25.33 | Jimboo | i just need a 200x200 window with a checkbutton that turns it on and an edit box to put a recipient - taken me 3 days to learn haha |
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| 09:26.55 | mikma | jimboo: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14985-Voodoo.html <- something like this? :O |
| 09:28.24 | Jimboo | one sec ill look |
| 09:28.50 | Jimboo | mikma - no need for drag and drop.. its just for automailing my whole inventory to a bank toon. |
| 09:29.05 | Jimboo | nice addon tho |
| 09:29.09 | mikma | i meant the look of the frame :P |
| 09:32.12 | zenzio | Jimboo: the error doesn't say it returned a nil value, it says that the function you tried to call is a nil value (ie. it doesn't exist on the object) |
| 09:32.58 | Fisker | in da hood zenzelezz |
| 09:33.41 | zenzio | Fisker: that made me think of http://roflrazzi.com/2008/09/16/patrick-stewart-for-the-last-time-geordi/ |
| 09:34.22 | Jimboo | zenzio what would you suggest - where would you go from here to resolve this? |
| 09:36.11 | zenzio | Jimboo: hard to say. You could pastey your code, perhaps that would give some clues |
| 09:37.30 | Fisker | naw zenzio |
| 09:37.48 | zenzio | it doesn't complain about AutoMailEnable being a nil value, so there is at least an object of that name |
| 09:38.25 | zenzio | just to be sure, you don't have any other objects of the same name? |
| 09:39.12 | Jimboo | nope |
| 09:39.30 | Jimboo | will double check that but im not that stupid i hope |
| 09:40.01 | zenzio | if you want an easy way, change the name in the XML and in that little code segment and see if it changes anything |
| 09:40.04 | Jimboo | would it be because im using WoW UI Designer for the GUI =\ |
| 09:40.13 | Jimboo | will do zenz |
| 09:40.35 | zenzio | I haven't used WoW UI Designer, but I'm not aware of it causing problems |
| 09:40.48 | Jimboo | ^^ yea theres some issues with it but nothign to do with the code |
| 09:40.52 | Jimboo | interface is 30300 |
| 09:40.57 | Jimboo | anyway testing ur idea |
| 09:45.37 | Jerub | tekkub: is Tourguide currently available? wow.curse.com and wowinterface.com don't have it at the moment. |
| 09:46.28 | Jimboo | zenzio:Message: ..\AddOns\AutoMailer\mail.lua line 95: |
| 09:46.29 | Jimboo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:46.50 | Jimboo | i want to punch something.. everything is so expensive tho :( |
| 09:47.16 | zenzio | when does your code run? During some event/action, or when your addon loads? |
| 09:47.24 | zenzio | (the code that generates the error) |
| 09:47.32 | Jimboo | on MAIL_SHOW event |
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| 09:47.41 | Jimboo | pastebinning the code for you |
| 09:48.17 | Jimboo | http://pastebin.com/m11f7d1f0 |
| 09:49.35 | zenzio | and AutoMailActivate was the name you gave the CheckButton? |
| 09:49.41 | Jimboo | yes |
| 09:50.57 | zenzio | have you tried checking FrameXML.log to see whether something is wrong about your XML file? |
| 09:51.43 | Jimboo | wait i got it working now |
| 09:51.54 | Jimboo | i didnt update it in the XML lol |
| 09:51.57 | Jimboo | to Activate |
| 09:52.00 | Jimboo | <3 u |
| 09:52.13 | Jimboo | but now theres a problem with my loop.. it doesnt insert the recipient :( |
| 09:52.14 | zenzio | :) |
| 09:52.21 | zenzio | hehe, one thing at a time |
| 09:52.24 | Jimboo | it attaches every perfectly. |
| 09:52.29 | Jimboo | everything* |
| 09:53.04 | Jimboo | it didnt fill up the mail tho |
| 09:53.09 | Jimboo | only had 6 attached |
| 09:53.13 | Jimboo | cos thats all in my inventory |
| 09:53.26 | Jimboo | if( (totalAttached + 1) >= ATTACHMENTS_MAX_SEND ) then |
| 09:53.27 | Jimboo | SendMail(SendToTarget, "You got mail!", "") |
| 09:53.29 | Jimboo | bites me in the ass there i think |
| 09:56.20 | zenzio | afraid I'm not familiar with the mail functions, can't test here at work; you'll just have to play round with that a bit (unless someone who does know wakes up ;) |
| 09:57.02 | Jimboo | so in theory - I would need something to check if im out of items to send |
| 09:57.06 | Jimboo | then goto sendmail |
| 09:57.16 | Jimboo | but howwwwwwww Mr Miyagi! |
| 09:58.07 | zenzio | oh, you mean the code did add all you had in your bags, but it didn't send it because it wasn't a "full" mail? |
| 09:58.09 | Jimboo | SendMail is fine you dont need to worry bout that.. just need to work out how i can get it to check if im out of items to send.. because im pretty sure that will only send when the mail gets filled. |
| 09:58.17 | Jimboo | correct. |
| 09:58.35 | Jimboo | the totalattached wasnt maxed. |
| 09:58.42 | Jimboo | so it didnt call SendMail |
| 09:59.28 | zenzio | well, I guess that just after the "end" for the "for bag=0, 4 do" loop you could add another call to GetPendingAttachments, and if it returns > 1, call SendMail |
| 09:59.38 | zenzio | er, > 0 |
| 10:00.14 | Jimboo | if (GetPendingAttachments <= 0) then ? |
| 10:00.19 | Jimboo | ()* |
| 10:00.38 | Jimboo | i could see that working lol |
| 10:00.48 | zenzio | no, > 0 |
| 10:01.09 | Jimboo | oh mine version would of been a if not expression lol |
| 10:01.15 | Jimboo | my mistake |
| 10:01.16 | zenzio | aha |
| 10:01.34 | zenzio | but yeah, I'd try something like that, see if that works |
| 10:02.23 | Jimboo | elseif return |
| 10:05.59 | Jimboo | man i hate breaking ends |
| 10:06.05 | Jimboo | you gotta work out which is for what |
| 10:06.24 | zenzio | like people said before, be strict about your indentation, that helps |
| 10:06.42 | zenzio | after a while you'll also develop some habits for restructuring code so you don't have to nest so deeply |
| 10:06.52 | krka | if you need to work that stuff out, your functions are already too long |
| 10:12.29 | Fisker | i want to physically harm you zenzio |
| 10:12.44 | Shadowed | how cute |
| 10:12.55 | zenzio | you cannot physically harm a post-physical being |
| 10:14.26 | Fisker | i can make you pre-physical though |
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| 10:14.49 | zenzio | sorry, I've evolved past that |
| 10:15.34 | Fisker | i'll kill you for that remark |
| 10:15.51 | zenzio | that'll have to wait, I'm off for lunch |
| 10:20.06 | Jimboo | dam Blua keeps freezing |
| 10:24.36 | Jimboo | zenzio: if( (totalAttached + 1) >= ATTACHMENTS_MAX_SEND or GetPendingAttachments() > 0) then |
| 10:24.36 | Jimboo | would be more efficient do you think? |
| 10:24.43 | Jimboo | makes one less indent ;) |
| 10:24.44 | Fisker | in da hood zenzio |
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| 10:36.48 | Jimboo | think i've got it worked out |
| 10:37.14 | Jimboo | created another function to check how many items are in inventory and how many are currently locked. |
| 10:37.25 | Jimboo | wish me luck |
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| 10:38.59 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 10:39.01 | Fisker | giev packages |
| 10:41.35 | Jimboo | ill give you my package |
| 10:41.35 | Jimboo | NSFW |
| 10:41.36 | Jimboo | lol |
| 10:46.24 | DJJeff | WIM ADDON update!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:46.33 | DJJeff | are you <censored> serious :) |
| 10:46.36 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 10:49.03 | zenzio | oh? |
| 10:49.26 | DJJeff | http://www.wimaddon.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 10:49.40 | DJJeff | 02/16/2010: WIM 3.3.1 Released! |
| 10:52.48 | Fisker | noone cares |
| 10:52.59 | DJJeff | meeeeeh |
| 10:53.09 | DJJeff | it was long overdue |
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| 11:33.15 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNPHzSWrnAU&feature=player_embedded |
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| 12:28.10 | zenzio | so I noticed a status update from one of my friends on Facebook... "dropped my iPhone in the toilet...". It's marked "Posted about and hour ago via Facebook for iPhone" |
| 12:28.28 | zenzio | seems unpleasant |
| 12:28.30 | Jimboo | HHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAAH |
| 12:29.55 | Jimboo | "Did you steal my IPhone?" "Na mate I got a shitty Nokia - Posted about and hour ago via Facebook for iPhone" |
| 12:30.06 | zenzio | :) |
| 12:31.35 | Jimboo | RACHEL BILSON GETTIN NAILED ON TV.. |
| 12:31.39 | Jimboo | mt |
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| 12:47.57 | Jerub | far out |
| 12:48.05 | Jerub | just had a kingslayer in my pug as a healer. |
| 12:49.09 | zenzio | kingslayer, is that anyone who's killed Arthas or just the first ones? |
| 12:49.11 | Jerub | had a legendary 245 mace and was all dressed up in 264 and 258 stuff |
| 12:49.19 | Jerub | anyone who's killed arthas |
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| 13:33.33 | zenzio | ohai thar peppy |
| 13:34.23 | Lopeppeppy | Morning dear. |
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| 13:59.21 | Fisker | man |
| 13:59.23 | Fisker | that's fucking laem |
| 13:59.25 | Fisker | lame* |
| 13:59.48 | Fisker | Supposedly "the front of the queue" = 10 minutes |
| 13:59.58 | Fisker | or the other team effectively reset my queue |
| 14:00.54 | Fisker | my ragesense is tingling |
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| 14:19.41 | LebQzz | an all over question for lua wow coding.. what would be the most efficient way to border the worldframe with custom art? |
| 14:20.03 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 14:20.05 | Fisker | i own you |
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| 14:21.32 | jnwhiteh | LebQzz: move and resize teh world frame, and then put art around it. Efficiency has absolutely nothing to do with it, you just do it. |
| 14:22.28 | Lopeppeppy | I think SunnArt has some panels that are full screen, not just bottom-of-screen. Can't remember. |
| 14:22.32 | nevcairiel | dont build the art out of a gazillion singular pixel-shaped solid-color textures, and you're fine |
| 14:22.48 | LebQzz | i dont wanna use sunnart |
| 14:23.00 | Lopeppeppy | No... but you can read the code and get clues as to how it is done. |
| 14:23.04 | LebQzz | I want to learn so when i as aquestion i dont want to hear about other addons. |
| 14:23.09 | LebQzz | maybe ;P |
| 14:23.12 | jnwhiteh | Then leave |
| 14:23.16 | jnwhiteh | because that's what we're going to tell you to do |
| 14:23.23 | jnwhiteh | because its what you should be doing =) |
| 14:23.27 | Lopeppeppy | Play nice, LebQzz. It's a good suggestion. Study what is already out there to learn how to do what you want to do. |
| 14:23.30 | jnwhiteh | We read each other's code, that's how we learn things. |
| 14:23.42 | jnwhiteh | No need to get all .. whatever the hell that was. |
| 14:23.43 | Fisker | oh man you were right Lopeppeppy |
| 14:23.43 | LebQzz | hehe |
| 14:23.53 | jnwhiteh | I already told you, resize the world frame, anchor it where you want, and then place your textures around. |
| 14:23.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm not really sure what more you need to know? |
| 14:24.00 | Fisker | i didn't dip my mouse in urine, caffeine beverages or put it in the dishwasher |
| 14:24.04 | Fisker | and it still works! |
| 14:24.24 | LebQzz | naa last few days i've asked for help, and every answer. no reason to invent the wheel. go get that addon.. I'm like.. wow I'll learn soo much from that lol installing and using someoneses addon |
| 14:24.37 | jnwhiteh | We didnd't tell you to use it or install it |
| 14:24.38 | jnwhiteh | so cut the crap |
| 14:24.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, you should take some tylenol for that migraine, Fisker-dear. |
| 14:24.57 | jnwhiteh | Don't get snippy, I always win snippy wars. |
| 14:25.04 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 14:26.28 | jnwhiteh | Regardless of all of that, do you understand the answer I already gave you twice? |
| 14:26.37 | jnwhiteh | because I haven't see any response to it |
| 14:27.34 | LebQzz | yeah sorry bout snapping. |
| 14:27.46 | jnwhiteh | it's okay, just keep it in mind in the future. |
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| 14:28.25 | dardack | anyone know a replacement for Xloot, sick of the errors esp on masterlooter |
| 14:28.47 | jnwhiteh | I've always avoided loot replacements, too many things can go wrong =/ |
| 14:29.01 | jnwhiteh | I think tekub had one, but not sure if it was for rolls or if it had a ML replacement. |
| 14:29.10 | dardack | and i hate the default blizzard crap, i like clicking one button to announce to raid what dropped/etc. |
| 14:29.30 | Fisker | what migraine am i having Lopeppeppy ? |
| 14:29.44 | Lopeppeppy | The one where you're nice in the morning. :) |
| 14:29.57 | jnwhiteh | dardack: makes sense, I just don't know of any othehrs =) |
| 14:30.02 | jnwhiteh | but I hardly am aware of all addons |
| 14:30.22 | dardack | yea i've seen tek's it's only group loot |
| 14:30.27 | Fisker | oh then i better go OD on some pills |
| 14:30.27 | Fisker | brb |
| 14:30.29 | dardack | looking for a masterloot replacement |
| 14:31.22 | LebQzz | is it possible to texture parentUI? |
| 14:31.26 | sylvanaar_atwork | Fisker: send me some |
| 14:31.51 | jnwhiteh | LebQzz: textures are just objects, you don't really 'texture' something. Yes, you can create textures that are parented to UIParent. |
| 14:32.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | textures jnwhiteh |
| 14:32.20 | LebQzz | hmm |
| 14:32.42 | jnwhiteh | UIParent.foo = UIParent:CreateTexture("SomeNameIfYouWantIt", "BACKGROUND") |
| 14:32.46 | jnwhiteh | licks sylvanaar_atwork |
| 14:33.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, send some to sylvanaar_atwork, so that you stay alive, Fisker. *shakes head* |
| 14:37.22 | dardack | ok i found magiclooter |
| 14:37.30 | dardack | plus it can auto give someone in the raid greens |
| 14:37.39 | dardack | since we give free enchants that will make less clicking |
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| 14:39.42 | LebQzz | god i feel like a nub. |
| 14:39.56 | LebQzz | whops forgot I AM ;P |
| 14:40.19 | dardack | heh |
| 14:41.54 | LebQzz | what aboutSetTexture("") |
| 14:41.54 | jnwhiteh | A texture has to exist before you can set it |
| 14:42.16 | LebQzz | uiframe dont have texture i guess then ;P |
| 14:42.24 | jnwhiteh | It has some, I'm sure |
| 14:42.27 | jnwhiteh | but you have to create your own |
| 14:42.30 | LebQzz | so i understand that the |
| 14:42.47 | LebQzz | UIParent.foo = UIParent:CreateTexture("SomeNameIfYouWantIt", "BACKGROUND") <-- sets the vaiable. |
| 14:42.59 | jnwhiteh | A texture is just a UI object that can display color or the contents of a graphic file. |
| 14:43.32 | LebQzz | i know that much. |
| 14:43.59 | jnwhiteh | UIParent.foo = UIParent:CreateTexture(nil, "OVERLAY"); UIParent.foo:SetSize(256, 256); UIParent.foo:SetPoint("CENTER", 0, 0); UIParent.foo:SetTexture("Interface\\Pictures\\11733_nightdragon_256") |
| 14:44.11 | jnwhiteh | That'll create a texture in the middle of UIParent, displaying this image: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Pictures/11733_nightdragon_256.png |
| 14:44.19 | LebQzz | or i think in the direction its an "skin" that has to be attached on an object(whatever) and then able to be shown |
| 14:44.39 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't have to be attached to anything (depending on what you mean by attachment). |
| 14:44.43 | jnwhiteh | Frames are the base of everything. |
| 14:44.48 | jnwhiteh | Textures must 'belong' to a frame |
| 14:44.52 | jnwhiteh | but they can be placed anywhere you want. |
| 14:45.17 | LebQzz | are they limited to the frame area? or they are freeform aslong as they have a object |
| 14:45.25 | jnwhiteh | I just said, they can be placed anywhere you want. |
| 14:45.31 | LebQzz | ok |
| 14:45.40 | jnwhiteh | They just cannot exist without a frame, because that's how they are created. |
| 14:45.51 | jnwhiteh | When the frame is hidden, the texture is hidden. |
| 14:45.56 | LebQzz | yep |
| 14:45.59 | jnwhiteh | and that's most of the caveats |
| 14:45.59 | LebQzz | makes sense |
| 14:46.47 | LebQzz | nice |
| 14:46.51 | LebQzz | interresting ;P |
| 14:49.08 | LebQzz | what about Tile'ing the texture? |
| 14:49.41 | jnwhiteh | you don't really want the answer to that question, I'm afraid. |
| 14:50.08 | jnwhiteh | Your best bet right now is to manually tile any textures that you want tiled. |
| 14:50.51 | LebQzz | hehe |
| 14:50.56 | LebQzz | i like that answer |
| 14:50.59 | jnwhiteh | If you _really_ want to do it, you can do it with what we did above |
| 14:51.07 | LebQzz | yeh |
| 14:51.09 | jnwhiteh | UIParent.foo:SetSize(512, 256) |
| 14:51.22 | LebQzz | will stretch the picture |
| 14:51.25 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 14:51.29 | jnwhiteh | well yes |
| 14:51.32 | jnwhiteh | it'll stretch it |
| 14:51.32 | jnwhiteh | but wait, there's more =) |
| 14:51.33 | LebQzz | it does on mine ;P |
| 14:51.49 | LebQzz | did exactly just that lol |
| 14:51.57 | jnwhiteh | UIParent.foo:SetTexCoord(0, 2.0, 1.0, 0) |
| 14:52.02 | LebQzz | ooooh |
| 14:52.04 | LebQzz | ;P |
| 14:52.16 | jnwhiteh | i may have the 1.0 and 0 backwards |
| 14:52.42 | Adys | 1.0 would be 0.1, but what would 0 be? |
| 14:52.49 | jnwhiteh | they'd be swapped... |
| 14:52.56 | jnwhiteh | but I believe that is correct |
| 14:53.00 | LebQzz | left right top bottom |
| 14:53.07 | jnwhiteh | correct |
| 14:53.12 | Adys | ~jnwhiteh-- for falling to pathetic trolling :< |
| 14:53.18 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 14:53.24 | jnwhiteh | Fisker is just better tan you are |
| 14:53.28 | jnwhiteh | and I clearly have no sense of humour =) |
| 14:53.31 | jnwhiteh | not for the french |
| 14:53.47 | Adys | fisker doesnt even go out, I don't think his tan is better than mine |
| 14:54.13 | jnwhiteh | LebQzz: did that tile, the suspense is positively killing me. |
| 14:54.31 | LebQzz | hehe wrong ;P |
| 14:54.41 | jnwhiteh | try 0, 2.0, 0, 1.0 |
| 14:54.43 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOZBU257ERE&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:54.46 | Wobin | awweeeesome =) |
| 14:55.02 | Wobin | that has to be one of the best produced warcraft videos I've seen in a while |
| 14:55.06 | Wobin | especially in regards to sound effects |
| 14:56.36 | LebQzz | that was wrong aswell ;P |
| 14:56.51 | LebQzz | trying to see what it did.. |
| 14:57.02 | LebQzz | so... Right produced 2 rows |
| 14:58.56 | jnwhiteh | What it's done |
| 14:59.01 | jnwhiteh | instead of tiling, which I expected it to do |
| 14:59.13 | jnwhiteh | it 'tiled' the last column |
| 14:59.17 | LebQzz | think of table with 4 fields with topleft field |
| 14:59.20 | LebQzz | tex |
| 14:59.25 | jnwhiteh | which his why you can see the smears |
| 14:59.27 | LebQzz | 2 rows 4 fields ;P |
| 14:59.29 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 14:59.38 | jnwhiteh | i dont have to.. because I understand what's going on here. |
| 15:00.02 | jnwhiteh | it tiled the last pixel of the image |
| 15:00.10 | jnwhiteh | which is the best we can do automatically at this point |
| 15:00.26 | jnwhiteh | again, this is why you see the 'smears' horizontally |
| 15:00.33 | LebQzz | oh |
| 15:00.42 | LebQzz | what the hell did i do now ;P |
| 15:01.36 | LebQzz | 0, 2.0, 0, 1.0 takes the left row and repeats it ;P |
| 15:01.37 | LebQzz | i see that |
| 15:01.54 | jnwhiteh | 'left' row? |
| 15:01.56 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:02.04 | LebQzz | Right colum |
| 15:02.05 | jnwhiteh | it takes the rightmost column of pixels, and repeats it. |
| 15:02.05 | LebQzz | sorry |
| 15:02.07 | LebQzz | ;P |
| 15:02.22 | LebQzz | my left and right gets consudes lately ;P |
| 15:02.29 | jnwhiteh | and your row/column apparently =) |
| 15:03.04 | LebQzz | because I'm danish i have diff naming for em ;P |
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| 15:03.22 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: now it all makes sense! |
| 15:05.56 | LebQzz | i want to be warchief lol |
| 15:08.24 | LebQzz | that vid is actually good made |
| 15:08.34 | LebQzz | suddle and still good animated ;P |
| 15:09.15 | DWSR | Jimboo |
| 15:10.37 | LebQzz | SetTexCoord(0,2,20,0) shows texture 20px at the bottom and repeats the top row 1px upwards and right colum 1px right |
| 15:11.19 | jnwhiteh | no, that shouldn't be right. |
| 15:11.33 | jnwhiteh | tex coords are meant to be values 0.0 - 1.0 |
| 15:11.40 | LebQzz | shows texture from x0+20px up |
| 15:11.40 | jnwhiteh | when you say 20, 0 there |
| 15:12.01 | LebQzz | hmm |
| 15:12.04 | LebQzz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:12.14 | jnwhiteh | I'm fairly sure that doesn't do what you tink it does. |
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| 15:12.21 | jnwhiteh | they are not pixel values. |
| 15:12.39 | LebQzz | its about what what it did.. didnt count em ;P |
| 15:13.06 | jnwhiteh | about isn't good enough for me |
| 15:13.11 | jnwhiteh | nor is not quite understanding what is happening |
| 15:13.18 | jnwhiteh | you souldn't be messing with texcoords |
| 15:13.24 | jnwhiteh | if you don't know what/how textures work =) |
| 15:13.27 | LebQzz | hehe thats why i have a Blinking ? over my head ;P |
| 15:13.44 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 15:13.45 | jnwhiteh | whats happening |
| 15:13.50 | jnwhiteh | is you're actually reversing the image vertically |
| 15:13.54 | LebQzz | wierd stuff ;P |
| 15:13.58 | jnwhiteh | at 1/20 of the size |
| 15:14.07 | DWSR | ~seen Dagmar |
| 15:14.09 | purl | dagmar is currently on #wowuidev (5d 5h 21m 42s). Has said a total of 818 messages. Is idling for 7h 57m 32s, last said: 'Snarkist sect, Sarcasonian'. |
| 15:14.23 | jnwhiteh | this shows this clearly: /run UIParent.foo:SetTexCoord(0,2,2,0) |
| 15:14.37 | jnwhiteh | vertically flipped |
| 15:15.09 | LebQzz | (2.0,0,1.0,0) moves the tex on the right side |
| 15:15.20 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:15.21 | jnwhiteh | it flips the image |
| 15:15.31 | jnwhiteh | the whole thing is the texture |
| 15:15.39 | jnwhiteh | here's a quick lesson |
| 15:15.43 | jnwhiteh | 0, 1, 0, 1 is normal |
| 15:15.48 | jnwhiteh | 1, 0, 0, 1 is flipped ohriz |
| 15:15.55 | jnwhiteh | 0, 1, 1, 0 is flipped vertically |
| 15:16.02 | jnwhiteh | 1, 0, 1, 0 is flipped in both directions. |
| 15:16.06 | DWSR | Linear algebra! |
| 15:16.11 | jnwhiteh | that's really all you need to know at this point |
| 15:16.14 | jnwhiteh | you should focus on other tings. |
| 15:16.26 | LebQzz | ;) |
| 15:17.31 | LebQzz | so setcords can be used to save on imagemaking. and flip the textures to like fit on other side. or 1 corner texture moved around ;P |
| 15:17.40 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Is your WoWLib project more or less up to date than cog's WoW-Lua? Or are they the same? |
| 15:17.49 | jnwhiteh | they're the same, wowlib is just a rock |
| 15:18.09 | DWSR | rock is the Lua equivalent of a Python egg? |
| 15:18.16 | jnwhiteh | roughly, yes. |
| 15:18.24 | DWSR | mkay. |
| 15:18.51 | DWSR | I should build a Windows version sometime. |
| 15:19.49 | Kraps | wts overcast skies, pst w/offer |
| 15:20.42 | ckknight | it'd be interesting to see stats on people hacked with an authenticator vs. without one |
| 15:20.46 | Lopeppeppy | WTS 3-6 inches of snow, pst. |
| 15:20.47 | jnwhiteh | wts overcast skies, less than Kraps, I have more. |
| 15:20.59 | jnwhiteh | ckknight: so far we have no known cases of someone being hacked with an authenticator, afaik. |
| 15:21.04 | jnwhiteh | the two I heard about were debunked |
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| 15:26.47 | Kraps | dont buy from jnwhiteh, he ninjad our overcast skies |
| 15:27.04 | jnwhiteh | oh no, these are locally soured |
| 15:27.06 | jnwhiteh | sourced |
| 15:27.08 | jnwhiteh | I promise you that |
| 15:27.37 | LebQzz | jnwhiteh when using setsize can i just input 1 and it scales it correctly? |
| 15:28.01 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 15:28.01 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:28.14 | jnwhiteh | you always specify the size. |
| 15:28.35 | LebQzz | hmm ok |
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| 15:35.01 | DWSR | I'm out. |
| 15:35.03 | DWSR | LATER SKATERS |
| 15:36.10 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 15:36.12 | Fisker | come quickly |
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| 15:42.31 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: do your overcast skies have snow since 12 am? |
| 15:42.37 | jnwhiteh | sadlym no. |
| 15:43.31 | jnwhiteh | where is XT-002 Deconstructor? |
| 15:43.33 | jnwhiteh | what raid? |
| 15:43.39 | Kraps | ulduar |
| 15:43.39 | Milyardo | Ulduar |
| 15:43.59 | jnwhiteh | kk |
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| 15:47.33 | Kraps | is Ignis part of the weekly rotation? |
| 15:47.50 | haste | yes |
| 15:48.35 | Kraps | lols at the thought of puging Ignis |
| 15:49.30 | jnwhiteh | i did a 10 man ignis |
| 15:49.42 | jnwhiteh | i healed the add tank, and starfired the brittle golems |
| 15:49.45 | jnwhiteh | flexes |
| 15:49.54 | jnwhiteh | since the mage we had actually said when we were asking her to kill the golems |
| 15:50.03 | jnwhiteh | 'umm hold on, I'm a girl.. let me get my brother' |
| 15:50.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:50.10 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:50.24 | jnwhiteh | then, attacked the golem the entire time the tank was kiting him |
| 15:50.35 | jnwhiteh | and died twice |
| 15:50.37 | jnwhiteh | was epic. |
| 15:51.40 | LebQzz | can ISetFrameStrata("HIGH") on chatframe? |
| 15:52.03 | jnwhiteh | if you want, sure. |
| 15:52.37 | LebQzz | texture is on background but gets priority over chatframe lol so its behind ;P |
| 15:54.51 | jnwhiteh | could also be a frame level issue |
| 15:55.31 | LebQzz | well texture is bound to uiframe |
| 15:55.46 | LebQzz | i guess |
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| 16:03.15 | Ackis | http://www.raincitystory.com/flash/screenclean.swf that'll help clean your computer monitor :D |
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| 16:12.08 | Lopeppeppy | And in other news, A + B = sausage. |
| 16:13.57 | Ackis | you just tweeted that! |
| 16:13.59 | Ackis | zomg |
| 16:14.02 | Ackis | I'm seeing double! |
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| 16:20.39 | Kraps | if paragon Shep is Chaotic Good, what is renegade Shep? |
| 16:21.19 | Lopeppeppy | Chaotic Neutral. |
| 16:21.32 | Lopeppeppy | vile Shep would be Chaotic Evil. |
| 16:21.55 | Kraps | vile? |
| 16:22.06 | Lopeppeppy | Horrible, awful, hideous. |
| 16:22.07 | Lopeppeppy | Vile. |
| 16:22.24 | Kraps | is there a vile Shep? :) |
| 16:23.31 | zenzelezz | jesus, do people have an aversion to typing "ard"? "Blizz", "Shep"... include the damn ard! |
| 16:23.45 | LebQzz | lol |
| 16:24.11 | LebQzz | dp t.. = tard |
| 16:24.13 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: you t |
| 16:24.15 | LebQzz | dp so |
| 16:24.21 | LebQzz | haha |
| 16:24.38 | LebQzz | t...l..sh.. |
| 16:24.57 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: should've gone with ret |
| 16:25.11 | zenzelezz | insinuating I'm a paladin is the ultimate insult |
| 16:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | pokes zenzelezz. |
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| 16:25.49 | zenzelezz | you may like being a paladin, but I don't! I need rage! |
| 16:26.18 | LebQzz | naa retard isnt the same as retardin.. only if its alliance |
| 16:26.35 | zenzelezz | retard isn't, but ret is |
| 16:26.37 | cogwheel | ah rage... I don't get enough of it in heroics anymore unless i aggro half the room... |
| 16:26.48 | LebQzz | hehe |
| 16:26.50 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: just pull backwards |
| 16:26.57 | LebQzz | or if a stupid priet starts out by shielding you lol |
| 16:27.03 | zenzelezz | as in approach with your back turned |
| 16:27.16 | cogwheel | heh |
| 16:27.23 | cogwheel | don't daze me bro! |
| 16:27.53 | zenzelezz | what, you're not defense capped? |
| 16:28.00 | Kraps | cogwheel: shield specialization |
| 16:28.07 | Arrowmaster | start sitting down |
| 16:28.11 | cogwheel | i just like saying "don't daze me bro" |
| 16:28.20 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: point accepted :) |
| 16:28.20 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 16:28.59 | LebQzz | hmm get the ony trinket set and its kinda OP ;P |
| 16:29.29 | Milyardo | LebQzz: not really |
| 16:30.23 | Milyardo | You're basicly taking up 2 trinket slots for a proc that one OP trinket could do |
| 16:30.39 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple just told me she has Firefox 5.0. I dies laughing right here and now. |
| 16:30.44 | LebQzz | 250sp+ good amount of mp5 and hp5 |
| 16:31.19 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: thats beta right? |
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| 16:31.38 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: O_o |
| 16:31.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's the version of MOZILLA that she's talking about. Firefox is only up to 3.6 |
| 16:31.56 | Kraps | cogwheel: take out the point from cruelty and put em in shield specialization |
| 16:32.11 | Kraps | point(s) |
| 16:33.07 | LebQzz | warriors have a decent talent vagilance |
| 16:34.13 | Kraps | makes no comment on "vagilance" |
| 16:34.14 | cogwheel | Kraps: i don't see any points in cruelty... |
| 16:34.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
| 16:34.58 | Kraps | cogwheel: i was guessing :/ |
| 16:35.06 | cogwheel | at what? |
| 16:35.24 | cogwheel | is confuzzled |
| 16:35.30 | cogwheel | (nothing new) |
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| 16:36.01 | Kraps | i dont have your armory open actually |
| 16:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | He was guessing that you had points in it. |
| 16:36.19 | cogwheel | but for why? |
| 16:36.52 | Kraps | cuz thats the cookie-cutter tank spec |
| 16:37.27 | cogwheel | i mean why was it being guessed about in the first place? |
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| 16:37.58 | Kraps | will shut up while he's behind |
| 16:38.14 | cogwheel | confuzzles some more |
| 16:38.48 | Kraps | bottom line, how many points do you have in shield spec? |
| 16:39.00 | cogwheel | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&cn=Cogwheel&group=2 |
| 16:39.12 | cogwheel | 4 :P |
| 16:39.28 | Milyardo | I think the correct answer is None, reroll a Paladin :) |
| 16:39.55 | cogwheel | pfft |
| 16:40.19 | cogwheel | Kraps: oh you mean for rage generation in heroics? |
| 16:40.30 | cogwheel | yeah, i'd rather just pull half the room :P |
| 16:41.08 | cogwheel | ve haff vays ov makink mobs dead |
| 16:41.55 | Kraps | glyphs of vig and sunder, hmm |
| 16:41.59 | cogwheel | hmm... i should read my talents more often... I need to change a bunch of my macros around for warbringer |
| 16:42.07 | cogwheel | those are leftovers |
| 16:42.24 | cogwheel | from when i had crappy gear and a harder time holding aggro |
| 16:42.46 | cogwheel | (trying to keep aggro off Falkrinn, e.g.) |
| 16:45.13 | Kraps | i have glyph of devastate and something else |
| 16:47.00 | Kraps | armory on this pc is bads |
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| 16:47.44 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:48.08 | Sixen | station |
| 16:48.18 | cogwheel | dynamation |
| 16:48.22 | Sixen | reclamation |
| 16:48.34 | Sixen | hesitation! |
| 16:48.38 | Sixen | ;) |
| 16:48.41 | cogwheel | mine's made up though! |
| 16:48.46 | cogwheel | and the opposite of station |
| 16:48.48 | Sixen | madeupatation |
| 16:48.56 | Sixen | oicwutudidthar.. |
| 16:49.04 | cogwheel | :D |
| 16:49.13 | Sixen | anyway. hai cog! long time no see! |
| 16:49.14 | Sixen | :p |
| 16:49.17 | cogwheel | ohai! |
| 16:49.27 | Kraps | whattheation |
| 16:49.55 | Sixen | whatcoldtion |
| 16:50.18 | Sixen | maybe just whatACtion |
| 16:50.34 | Kraps | plenty of snowation here :/ |
| 16:50.42 | Sixen | ;p |
| 16:51.06 | cogwheel | i wish we got at least a little snow around here... |
| 16:51.11 | cogwheel | <3 cold |
| 16:51.15 | Kraps | where you at? |
| 16:51.27 | cogwheel | SF bay area |
| 16:51.55 | Lopeppeppy | Conjunction junction, what's your function? |
| 16:52.17 | cogwheel | At ease, disease, there's a fungus among us! |
| 16:52.43 | Kraps | you sure you dont love cold cold only because you dont get any coldness? |
| 16:53.43 | cogwheel | Kraps: not in the slightest |
| 16:53.46 | cogwheel | (that I'm sure) |
| 16:55.02 | zenzelezz | is there any function that will tell you if a given inventory item is soulbound? |
| 16:55.07 | nicoli_s | i can ship you some of the cold here cogwheel |
| 16:55.18 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: tooltip scanning |
| 16:55.26 | nicoli_s | will you take a large envelope of cold air and melting snow? |
| 16:56.18 | cogwheel | as long as it's a plastic envelope... don't need any more water damage |
| 16:57.38 | Kraps | we dont even have melting snow, its falling pretty steady |
| 17:01.13 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: neither Borders nor my local Barns & Noble had the new edition of the book. Both offered to order it (taking up to 3 weeks) for me. :( Guess I'll be getting it from Amazon. |
| 17:01.27 | jnwhiteh | then our sales department isn't doing it's job =/ |
| 17:01.38 | cogwheel | Lunessa: i still haven't gotten my copies, if it makes you feel any better |
| 17:02.03 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: This is why I'm mentioning it to you. So you can bitch to the publisher. |
| 17:02.19 | Lunessa | should be less passive-aggressive. |
| 17:02.33 | jnwhiteh | thanks =) |
| 17:02.52 | cogwheel | Lunessa: buy it from wowprogramming.com store imo ;) |
| 17:02.58 | jnwhiteh | ofc =) |
| 17:03.13 | Lunessa | I suppose I could do that too. :P |
| 17:03.26 | jnwhiteh | its amazon.com |
| 17:03.35 | jnwhiteh | it just helps fund the website |
| 17:03.41 | jnwhiteh | since they give us a small cut through the affiliate program |
| 17:04.48 | Kraps | wont there be big programming changes come cata? |
| 17:05.12 | Kraps | most likely? |
| 17:05.22 | foxlit | Maybe. Do they have anything to change? |
| 17:05.28 | Milyardo | Kraps: You'd have to be more speficic in your question. |
| 17:05.30 | cogwheel | probably a lot fewer than past patches. if anything, new apis for whatever new features they have |
| 17:05.36 | cogwheel | past expansions* |
| 17:05.52 | cogwheel | 2.0 was HUGE, 3.0 was lessons learned from 2.0, now it's pretty stable imo |
| 17:06.17 | Shadowed | 4.0 will make us use strings for everything |
| 17:06.23 | Kraps | api's was the word i was looking for :) |
| 17:06.23 | jnwhiteh | regardless, those changes will be updated on the website. |
| 17:06.29 | Sixen | Ne edition? |
| 17:06.33 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 17:06.41 | Sixen | You guys made a new edition? |
| 17:06.51 | cogwheel | ~wowprogramming |
| 17:06.52 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 17:07.20 | Sixen | It's not the same/. |
| 17:07.27 | jnwhiteh | no, it's a new edition |
| 17:07.28 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:07.48 | Sixen | The truth! :P |
| 17:07.52 | jnwhiteh | anyone have a list of coordinates for lunar festival? |
| 17:08.15 | Sixen | So, his name is Rick Roe |
| 17:08.17 | Sixen | Like Rick Roll? |
| 17:08.19 | Sixen | :X |
| 17:08.21 | foxlit | wiki does. |
| 17:08.29 | Kraps | wowhead |
| 17:08.44 | jnwhiteh | links? |
| 17:08.46 | foxlit | the continent-level blip maps are awesome |
| 17:08.49 | jnwhiteh | or i can search |
| 17:09.09 | Sixen | 3.0 is coming out? |
| 17:09.14 | jnwhiteh | Huh? |
| 17:09.19 | Sixen | So confused. |
| 17:09.22 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: wowhead's lunar guide |
| 17:09.27 | Kraps | it is win |
| 17:09.27 | Sixen | (10:05:54 AM) cogwheel: 2.0 was HUGE, 3.0 was lessons learned from 2.0, now it's pretty stable imo |
| 17:09.33 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 17:09.40 | jnwhiteh | Sixen: yes.. 3.0 has been out.. since WoTLK. |
| 17:09.41 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 17:09.42 | Sixen | Talking about patchwise or the book |
| 17:09.43 | Sixen | :| |
| 17:09.47 | jnwhiteh | patch |
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| 17:09.49 | Sixen | oic.... |
| 17:09.55 | Sixen | That clears that up |
| 17:13.13 | Kraps | the Lunar Festival seems to be the most... dignified |
| 17:13.30 | Kraps | maybe its all the druids |
| 17:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | I've always liked it for the free ride to Moonglade. |
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| 17:18.54 | Sixen | Does anyoe have the US news feed link handy atm...? |
| 17:19.01 | Sixen | The link the Launcher grabs news from. |
| 17:19.16 | cogwheel | ~wowalert |
| 17:19.16 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 17:19.22 | cogwheel | that one? |
| 17:19.33 | Sixen | All knowing and all seeing... <3. |
| 17:19.54 | cogwheel | you assume :P |
| 17:20.37 | Sixen | hm? US one is blank |
| 17:20.56 | cogwheel | hence my "that one?" ... you might be looking for something else |
| 17:21.18 | Sixen | :o |
| 17:21.50 | Sixen | Well. Are US Realms skipping maintenance today? |
| 17:21.58 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:22.09 | Kraps | maybe maintenance finished already :o |
| 17:22.19 | Sixen | Noper. Nvm. |
| 17:22.28 | Sixen | No maintenance today. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23214152993 |
| 17:22.32 | Sixen | SC2 Beta is coming, mwhahaha. |
| 17:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | Waaaaah! |
| 17:22.51 | Lopeppeppy | wants to play. Peppy wants two hands first! |
| 17:22.58 | Kraps | seeing is believing |
| 17:23.03 | Shirik | will play with Lopeppeppy |
| 17:23.17 | Sixen | :D |
| 17:23.49 | Kraps | Shirik, you animal |
| 17:24.00 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:24.02 | Shadowed | have you played with a cat before Shirik |
| 17:24.07 | Shadowed | it's fun at first, then you get a handful of claws |
| 17:24.20 | Shadowed | very painful claws |
| 17:24.31 | nicoli_s | not if you got a sweet kittun |
| 17:24.33 | Shirik | you sound like you are well experienced in this |
| 17:24.55 | Shadowed | 3 cats would make me an expert |
| 17:25.20 | cogwheel | 9 out of 10 statisticians would disagree |
| 17:25.49 | Shadowed | 9 out of 10 statisticians are hacks however |
| 17:26.52 | Kraps | 98.7% of stats are made up btw |
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| 17:27.32 | Kraps | including the above one |
| 17:27.51 | xqo | Hi! My addon has a draggable frame. How can i save the position of the frame forever? |
| 17:28.07 | Shadowed | magic |
| 17:28.11 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 17:28.17 | cogwheel | there actually is some magic you can use |
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| 17:28.33 | cogwheel | blizzard will store frame positions if you call a certain method on it... |
| 17:28.40 | cogwheel | !api frameposition |
| 17:28.40 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'frameposition'. |
| 17:28.41 | Shadowed | only if it's XML created |
| 17:28.47 | Shadowed | !api setuserplace |
| 17:28.48 | lua_bot | Frame:SetUserPlaced: Flags the frame for automatic saving and restoration of position and dimensions (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetUserPlaced) |
| 17:28.49 | Shadowed | you maen that? |
| 17:28.50 | Shadowed | mean* |
| 17:28.55 | cogwheel | yeah i think so |
| 17:29.03 | cogwheel | that's equivalent to the xml attribute iirc |
| 17:29.05 | Shadowed | that will only work if you create it with XML thought |
| 17:29.18 | cogwheel | no, it should work as long as you run it before a certain stage in the loading process |
| 17:29.37 | cogwheel | before VARIABLES_LOADED iirc |
| 17:29.41 | Shadowed | hrm you sure? |
| 17:29.44 | cogwheel | not entirely |
| 17:30.53 | cogwheel | the frame also has to be created with a name |
| 17:31.13 | cogwheel | and the frame has to exist at the time the variables are loaded |
| 17:32.35 | xqo | thanks! |
| 17:32.59 | cogwheel | throwing together a simple test case to make sure it works |
| 17:34.19 | Kraps | how/where do you test addons? |
| 17:34.27 | cogwheel | in wow >< |
| 17:35.00 | Kraps | yeah... |
| 17:35.22 | Kraps | goes back to his corner |
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| 17:39.58 | cogwheel | Shadowed: xqo http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133083 works as intended :) |
| 17:40.08 | Shadowed | created on file load? |
| 17:40.42 | cogwheel | yep |
| 17:41.16 | Shadowed | good to know |
| 17:41.55 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/AddOn_loading_process |
| 17:41.59 | cogwheel | Until 3.0, VARIABLES_LOADED used to fire upon completion of the addon loading process; since 3.0, it is fired in response to CVars, Keybindings and other associated "Blizzard" variables being loaded, and may therefore be delayed until after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. The event may still be useful to override positioning data stored in layout-cache.txt |
| 17:42.30 | xqo | thanks alot!!! |
| 17:42.37 | cogwheel | layout-cache.txt is exactly where the magic happens :) |
| 17:45.55 | jnwhiteh | TomTOm script for Lunar Festival |
| 17:45.56 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowhead.com/?blog=64239.7#p1854799 |
| 17:46.37 | Fisker | do not want |
| 17:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like it sends you to silverpine, then Stranglethorn, then Hinternlands? Odd, but interesting. |
| 17:47.37 | jnwhiteh | hu? |
| 17:47.40 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't send you anywhere |
| 17:47.44 | jnwhiteh | it makes waypoints.. |
| 17:47.48 | Lopeppeppy | Or perhaps I'm crazy. |
| 17:47.58 | Lopeppeppy | I was reading that as a Route, not just setting waypoints, sorry. |
| 17:48.16 | foxlit | That looks like it's missing some achievement ids |
| 17:48.58 | jnwhiteh | there's four acihevements that have coordinates |
| 17:48.59 | jnwhiteh | so.. |
| 17:49.12 | jnwhiteh | northrend, ek, kalimdor, alliance, horde |
| 17:49.16 | jnwhiteh | five |
| 17:49.19 | jnwhiteh | so i'm missing one =) |
| 17:49.27 | Fisker | i script u jnwhiteh |
| 17:49.49 | nevcairiel | outlands? :D |
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| 17:50.01 | jnwhiteh | no.. |
| 17:50.02 | AbsolutRayne | O_o |
| 17:50.06 | nevcairiel | no elders in outlands? |
| 17:50.08 | nevcairiel | too bad :( |
| 17:50.10 | Adys | OUTLAND |
| 17:50.12 | frontendloader | use tourguide instead |
| 17:50.15 | Adys | OUTLAND OUTLAND OUTLAND |
| 17:50.17 | Adys | OUTLANDDDDDDDD |
| 17:50.20 | Adys | notice the lack of s |
| 17:50.20 | jnwhiteh | there is no outland elder list |
| 17:50.24 | jnwhiteh | frontendloader: no? thanks tho. |
| 17:50.31 | frontendloader | why so smug |
| 17:50.39 | jnwhiteh | tat's smug? |
| 17:50.51 | jnwhiteh | my dictionary must need updating. |
| 17:51.11 | durcyn | it's right up there with driving a prius, apparently |
| 17:51.14 | jnwhiteh | I don't want to download and use Tourguide for this, but I appreciate your suggestion. |
| 17:52.56 | zenzelezz | how many times do you have to tell a player to leave you alone before reporting him for harassment? Bloody mage won't leave me alone when I'm standing around testing some code |
| 17:53.13 | nevcairiel | what is he doing that you cant ignore? |
| 17:53.35 | frontendloader | I thought you might like how tourguide feeds the waypoints in to tomtom sequentially in an optimized order |
| 17:53.37 | zenzelezz | he's refusing to leave me alone when I ask him to, I'd rather report him than ignore him |
| 17:53.45 | zenzelezz | though I did ignore him in the end |
| 17:54.06 | nevcairiel | no seriously, what can someone do that annoys you? just run around you in circles or what? :P |
| 17:54.16 | jnwhiteh | frontendloader: i dont have time to spend sequentially, I just do a bit whenever I can, depending on were I am |
| 17:54.18 | jnwhiteh | where |
| 17:54.30 | zenzelezz | constantly challenging to a duel every time I decline, opening trade repeatedly to pay me to duel him |
| 17:54.35 | kd3 | gah |
| 17:54.37 | frontendloader | fair enough |
| 17:54.39 | zenzelezz | all of which is ignorable, but highly stupid behaviour |
| 17:54.43 | kd3 | 50s yesterday... teens this morning |
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| 17:55.10 | kd3 | no wonder I'm sick |
| 17:59.01 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:59.13 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: thats why i teleport to moonglade whenever i just stand around and do nothing :D |
| 17:59.14 | Thunder_Child | kd3, you were sick long before the weather change |
| 18:00.14 | Kraps | i one had someone repeatedly ask me to show him where i got the HH's mount, even when i told him repeatedly the you can only get it on hallows end |
| 18:00.34 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: he's on my ignore list but still trying to challenge me... really close to just reporting him :-p |
| 18:00.51 | nevcairiel | can you even challenge people who are ignoring you? |
| 18:00.59 | zenzelezz | yes, but it gets auto-declined |
| 18:01.06 | nevcairiel | do you notice it? |
| 18:01.10 | zenzelezz | at least so I assume, the pole appears and vanishes instantly |
| 18:01.19 | cogwheel | "The only thing better than learning a new programming language AND a new shell language is just learning a new programming language" |
| 18:01.27 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 18:02.02 | Shadowed | pretty sure the flag goes up, but it immediately goes away nevcairiel |
| 18:02.20 | nevcairiel | so you dont really notice as the ignorer |
| 18:02.30 | nevcairiel | can you say ignorer and ignoree? :P |
| 18:02.34 | zenzelezz | probably |
| 18:02.48 | Shadowed | mac dictionary complains about ignoree |
| 18:04.24 | kd3 | so does wiktionary, har |
| 18:04.27 | kd3 | and hunspell |
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| 18:05.02 | cogwheel | perhaps you'd have better luck with ignorée? |
| 18:06.33 | Shadowed | but that would require me to do more than press e twice :( |
| 18:07.02 | kd3 | the feminine past participle of the french 'ignorer', which is the imperative form of 'ignore' |
| 18:07.36 | kd3 | says en.wikt |
| 18:07.45 | Adys | ignorée |
| 18:07.48 | Adys | needs an accent |
| 18:07.57 | Adys | altgr 2 e |
| 18:09.35 | Adys | btw, did you guys know Northshire Abbey has a flight node? |
| 18:09.47 | nicoli_s | stop making stuff up |
| 18:09.52 | Adys | I'm not |
| 18:09.58 | kd3 | it probably did back in... alpha? |
| 18:10.08 | Adys | It's the first flight node in game, too |
| 18:10.10 | kd3 | still in the maps much like the emerald dream |
| 18:10.24 | kd3 | isn't that because elwynn was the first map they did? |
| 18:10.36 | Adys | dun morogh was :p |
| 18:11.20 | Adys | nicoli_s: of course, you'd know that if you had a wow database! |
| 18:12.30 | Kraps | cogwheel: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/26/23214762315-so-gc-how-about-that-buff-to-revenge.html |
| 18:13.37 | zenzelezz | perhaps it's just me, but I still like Revenge a lot |
| 18:13.53 | Kraps | same |
| 18:14.54 | Shirik | I am so cold T_T |
| 18:15.49 | Kraps | put some pants on |
| 18:15.53 | ZorbaTHut | buff revenge, wait for inevitable nerf to reduce prot warrior burst |
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| 18:16.20 | Shirik | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129107354793817317.jpg |
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| 18:16.40 | ZorbaTHut | seriously half of their "burst" balance right now is done via giving everyone and their mom a DoT. prot warriors don't have a large one. |
| 18:17.32 | cogwheel | i revenge |
| 18:19.35 | foxlit | "Your bug is [here]." "I don't think so!" << My evil plan has worked. |
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| 18:28.39 | Shirik | ok someone needs to explain the brits to me once again |
| 18:28.57 | Shirik | these are two UK clauses which state when a photograph is in the public domain: |
| 18:29.09 | Shirik | A photograph, which has never previously been made available to the public (e.g. by publication or display at an exhibition) and which was taken before 1st January 1940; or |
| 18:29.09 | Shirik | A photograph, which was made available to the public (e.g. by publication or display at an exhibition) before 1 January 1940; or |
| 18:29.21 | Shirik | why can't we just say "taken before 1st January 1940" |
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| 18:31.24 | Malgayne | jnwhiteh: You posted in the wrong thread :P |
| 18:31.31 | jnwhiteh | did I? |
| 18:31.33 | jnwhiteh | failbot. |
| 18:31.39 | Malgayne | That's the guide from LAST year |
| 18:31.53 | Malgayne | Use http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=144577 |
| 18:31.55 | Malgayne | :D |
| 18:31.59 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:32.04 | jnwhiteh | thanks |
| 18:32.10 | Malgayne | Thank YOU, that's a handy script |
| 18:32.13 | jnwhiteh | maybe i'll do it whenI get home |
| 18:32.16 | jnwhiteh | its missing one or two |
| 18:32.20 | jnwhiteh | but it works :P |
| 18:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | blargh. Pre-op nurse consults are no fun. |
| 18:34.45 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: bonus points for pulling data from quest list rather than cheivements. |
| 18:34.48 | foxlit | ^a |
| 18:35.03 | jnwhiteh | for why? |
| 18:35.17 | foxlit | People might want the tokens, but have already gotten achievement credits last year. |
| 18:35.25 | jnwhiteh | ah, meh =) |
| 18:35.31 | jnwhiteh | that's someone else's problem :P |
| 18:35.34 | jnwhiteh | the data table is there. |
| 18:35.35 | Shadowed | tokens are always useful |
| 18:35.38 | Shadowed | you get free percent food |
| 18:35.54 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, what about a photograph which was taken before 1st January 1940, but *was* made available to the public sometime after that date? |
| 18:36.01 | ZorbaTHut | that's a case that isn't covered in those two lines. |
| 18:36.08 | Shirik | hmmm |
| 18:36.10 | Shirik | ok |
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| 18:45.40 | Lopeppeppy | alestane!!!!! |
| 18:45.43 | Lopeppeppy | I see you. |
| 18:45.48 | alestane | I see you. |
| 18:46.53 | KarlKFI|work | i see both of you! |
| 18:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, Karl has two eyes! |
| 18:47.18 | alestane | is seen. |
| 18:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | is mostly heard. |
| 18:49.42 | theorbtwo | Look at me! I'm invisible! |
| 18:51.43 | Ackis | so I felt like an ass... figure skating was on and I was talking to the misses about how it would be better if they fought/kicked/anything not boring... then the tv cuts away to showing the canadian pair when the girl got a skate to a face during competition. |
| 18:52.01 | Fisker | i see all of you |
| 18:52.11 | durcyn | that's a lie ackis |
| 18:52.23 | durcyn | you'd have to have a soul and a conscience before you can feel shame in that situation |
| 18:52.25 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 18:52.27 | Fisker | you betrayed me |
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| 18:52.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, ouch Ackis. |
| 18:52.49 | Lopeppeppy | I loved the CSI episode about murder on the ice. |
| 18:53.04 | Fisker | did they zoom in on that reflection? |
| 18:53.20 | Ackis | ouch durcyn |
| 18:53.23 | Ackis | what'd I do Fisker |
| 18:53.32 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: did you see it? |
| 18:55.06 | DWSR | Anyone in here got an a socks proxy I can tap into for a minute? |
| 18:55.16 | DWSR | My idiot parents have blocked Twitter on my home network |
| 18:55.36 | Lopeppeppy | Not the olympic moment, but the CSI episode, yes. |
| 18:57.26 | frontendloader | DWSR: no but can I hi-five your parents? |
| 18:57.43 | DWSR | frontendloader: If you want. :P |
| 18:57.54 | DWSR | I'm only home for a week and they blocked it for my sister. |
| 18:58.13 | Lopeppeppy | If you're only home for a week, how desperately do you need it? |
| 18:58.14 | DWSR | They're getting all anal about what she does online (rightly so, she's been talking to some...er...colourful character). |
| 18:58.28 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Not desperately at all, I'm just trying to sort some stuff out with Feedly. |
| 18:58.36 | DWSR | And I'd rather have it done now while I'm still thinking about it. |
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| 18:59.28 | frontendloader | uh huh |
| 19:00.04 | DWSR | frontendloader: If I really cared that much about Twitter, I'd use my phone. As I said, I'm trying to sort out Feedly. |
| 19:00.15 | Dagmar | Ask your sister what she's using to get around the block |
| 19:00.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:00.45 | Ackis | DWSR: feedly is down for me as well right now |
| 19:00.52 | DWSR | Ackis: It's fine here. |
| 19:03.09 | Ackis | odd |
| 19:03.12 | Ackis | mine just won't load |
| 19:03.31 | Ackis | and I find when I look at my "people" subscriptions (jnwhiteh for example) they take super long to load |
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| 19:04.43 | DWSR | Ackis: What's your gmail? |
| 19:04.59 | Ackis | ackis81@gmail.com not that I ever use it |
| 19:05.18 | DWSR | Probably not for Gmail, but for reader? |
| 19:05.28 | Ackis | I log in with ackis@shaw.ca |
| 19:05.56 | DWSR | What's your social security number? ;) |
| 19:06.03 | Lopeppeppy | 5 |
| 19:06.20 | KarlKFI|work | 42 |
| 19:06.28 | DWSR | Ackis: You live in Alberta? |
| 19:06.30 | Ackis | I don't have one, I'm Canadian, we have Social Insurance Numbers :P |
| 19:06.38 | Ackis | DWSR: yup |
| 19:06.42 | DWSR | I'm sorry. |
| 19:06.47 | Ackis | :O |
| 19:06.57 | Ackis | best place in North America to live :P |
| 19:08.53 | DWSR | http://is.gd/8wp0g <- hehe |
| 19:08.58 | Thunder_Child | you have SIN how amusing |
| 19:09.04 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Yeah. |
| 19:09.10 | Dagmar | Oh lord |
| 19:09.12 | xqo | YeEEEEEEeeEEeEEE-EEAAH |
| 19:09.13 | Dagmar | It's coming full circle. |
| 19:09.14 | DWSR | Social Insurance Number. |
| 19:09.18 | xqo | its a party in the U.S.A! |
| 19:09.18 | DWSR | Dagmar: Oh hai. |
| 19:09.39 | nevcairiel | eh, wat? |
| 19:09.56 | Dagmar | I'm not sure how I feel about the TCG based on the online game being turned into an online game itself |
| 19:10.22 | nevcairiel | wait, that sounds just weird |
| 19:10.47 | Ackis | Dagmar: wot/ |
| 19:11.10 | frontendloader | "not to mention that video cards donât have ribbon cables attached to them." |
| 19:11.13 | frontendloader | older ones can and do |
| 19:11.29 | Dagmar | Nothing anyone should be putting power into *now* |
| 19:12.18 | Dagmar | *whew* |
| 19:12.23 | Dagmar | I pulled that URL up at work |
| 19:12.29 | DWSR | Dagmar: Get my notice? |
| 19:12.36 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 19:12.51 | DWSR | Add a hyphen to the end of any is.gd URLs to get a preview. |
| 19:13.49 | DWSR | btw. |
| 19:13.53 | DWSR | You will want some speakers. |
| 19:14.45 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4AlDQT5sM8 |
| 19:14.47 | DWSR | (in case that wasn't blindly obvious) |
| 19:14.47 | Ackis | amusing |
| 19:15.41 | DWSR | anyone watching Curling? |
| 19:15.57 | durcyn | why.. oh, clever troll. |
| 19:16.25 | Ackis | DWSR: I want to be :( |
| 19:16.34 | KarlKFI|work | so if curling is a sport, why isn't croquet in the olympics? |
| 19:16.50 | DWSR | KarlKFI: Because Croquet(sp?) requires less skill. |
| 19:16.50 | batbot | DWSR, Croquet is correct. |
| 19:17.01 | DWSR | also, not enough international competition. |
| 19:17.30 | Ackis | DWSR: how does curling not take skill? it takes more skill than figure skating :P |
| 19:17.37 | KarlKFI|work | O.o |
| 19:17.41 | DWSR | Ackis: I said it takes more skill. |
| 19:17.45 | Ackis | bah |
| 19:17.46 | DWSR | l2read. |
| 19:17.49 | Ackis | no |
| 19:17.52 | Ackis | I want to argue |
| 19:17.52 | Ackis | ! |
| 19:17.59 | DWSR | I want an arg! :P |
| 19:18.05 | KarlKFI|work | how does figure skating take less skill than curling? |
| 19:18.05 | Ackis | foo |
| 19:18.08 | Ackis | there's your arg! |
| 19:18.28 | DWSR | Assertion failed. |
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| 19:19.00 | KarlKFI|work | have YOU ever tried to do a quadruple axel spin? |
| 19:19.05 | KarlKFI|work | or a flip on skates? |
| 19:19.15 | Ackis | have you ever tried to curl? |
| 19:19.22 | DWSR | KarlKFI: I wasn't talking to you, and what Ackis said. |
| 19:19.32 | KarlKFI|work | have YOU? |
| 19:19.37 | Ackis | yes |
| 19:19.43 | Ackis | to both figure skating and curling |
| 19:19.44 | DWSR | I *generally* regard fine motor skills are more complex. |
| 19:19.46 | Ackis | I sucked at them both |
| 19:19.52 | Ackis | but I accomplished more in figure skating :P |
| 19:19.58 | DWSR | And ditto to what Ackis said. |
| 19:20.10 | KarlKFI|work | -_- |
| 19:20.15 | KarlKFI|work | failures, both of you |
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| 19:20.44 | Ackis | figure skating shouldn't be at the olympics anyways, it's not judged based on skill |
| 19:21.13 | Dagmar | It's not? |
| 19:21.17 | DWSR | no |
| 19:21.23 | DWSR | Not entirely, anyway. |
| 19:21.31 | Ackis | there's a lot of politics involved in the judging |
| 19:21.33 | ZorbaTHut | curling is fucking awesome |
| 19:21.36 | ZorbaTHut | that's all I have to say about that |
| 19:21.44 | DWSR | It's based on the technical difficulty/execution of the jumps, but also on the choreography of the entire routine. |
| 19:21.45 | nevcairiel | everything else has a clear measurement of skill |
| 19:21.54 | nevcairiel | figure skating .. oh well |
| 19:21.56 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Curling is like ice chess. :P |
| 19:22.06 | nevcairiel | seen the latest simpsons on curlign? :d |
| 19:22.18 | Dagmar | I'd say "Jumbo-sized marbles", personally |
| 19:22.32 | Dagmar | "It's a the Sport of Janitors." |
| 19:22.39 | Ackis | it's like shuffle board |
| 19:22.42 | ZorbaTHut | any sport that involves frantic sweeping is a sport that I think is brilliant |
| 19:22.55 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: It's a sport that should be..[/sexist] |
| 19:22.55 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:22.56 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: there was a movie about it called Men With Brooms iirc |
| 19:22.58 | Adys | frantically sweeps ZorbaTHut |
| 19:23.01 | Dagmar | 'cept old people had to have their equipment lightened up |
| 19:23.15 | KarlKFI|work | how does figure skating have less judging exactitude than gymnastics or diving? |
| 19:23.25 | DWSR | Oh WOW. |
| 19:23.53 | DWSR | Canada just had a brilliant hammer stone in the 9th end. |
| 19:24.00 | Ackis | KarlKFI|work: my comment was based on the political ramifications of the judging, a lot of sports are judged, those are just judged on merit and are judge fairly |
| 19:24.05 | Ackis | DWSR: it's Martin right? |
| 19:24.09 | ZorbaTHut | karl, as I understand it, a chunk of figure skating comes down to "how pretty do we think that performance was" |
| 19:24.09 | DWSR | Ackis: Yeah. |
| 19:24.14 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: It is. |
| 19:24.18 | ZorbaTHut | it's not an objective number |
| 19:24.34 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: "artistic expression" was added as a judging criteria when the Chinese started competing. |
| 19:24.41 | KarlKFI|work | on that note. we obviously need an Iron Chef competition int he olympics |
| 19:24.51 | ZorbaTHut | that said, there are other sports that aren't objective numbers either - any situation where they have a panel of judges is obviously not 100% objective |
| 19:24.57 | Lunessa | PEBKAC errors abound |
| 19:25.00 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Before the Chiense, it wasn't really considered, but the Chinese just started jumping and spinning with no real flow or anything in their routines, so it was added. |
| 19:25.30 | Ackis | and before I go get food, I will leave you all with a: Kurt Browning > all other figure skaters :P |
| 19:25.40 | KarlKFI|work | added to make it more enjoyable to watch i presume |
| 19:25.51 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yes, but most of the sports where there are a panel of judges also has some objectivity. |
| 19:26.06 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: such as moguls, which is 50% from the time of the athlete and 50% from technical execution. |
| 19:26.40 | DWSR | Diving has points awarded for the difficulty of the jump. |
| 19:26.44 | DWSR | And so forth. |
| 19:27.02 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, doesn't figure skating have *some* objectivity also? in the sense of "did they do the various moves correctly"? |
| 19:27.11 | nevcairiel | sure it does |
| 19:27.22 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: "Correctly". |
| 19:27.22 | nevcairiel | but its still no clear and transparent measurement like real sports |
| 19:27.24 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 19:27.33 | ZorbaTHut | oh sure, I'm not saying figure skating is good |
| 19:27.42 | ZorbaTHut | but I'm saying that I don't see why it's worse than things like, say, diving. |
| 19:27.49 | DWSR | KarlKFI: BTW, Iron Chef would be win |
| 19:27.54 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I just mentioned why. |
| 19:28.13 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, as I said, doesn't figure skating have some objectivity also? |
| 19:28.28 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: What you mentioned also applies to diving. |
| 19:28.32 | ZorbaTHut | yes |
| 19:28.34 | ZorbaTHut | I realize this |
| 19:28.35 | DWSR | but what I mentioned does not apply to figure skating. |
| 19:28.45 | KarlKFI|work | i'm telling you Iron Chef Olympics would be golden. EVERYONE has cooks. |
| 19:29.16 | ZorbaTHut | so are you saying that it *does* or *doesn't* have objectivity? because you seem to be neatly dancing around answering that question :P |
| 19:29.40 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Binarily(sp?), it does not. |
| 19:29.40 | batbot | DWSR, nothing found. |
| 19:29.56 | ZorbaTHut | binarily? :P |
| 19:29.59 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 19:30.07 | ZorbaTHut | what does that mean? |
| 19:30.11 | DWSR | As in binary. |
| 19:30.15 | DWSR | i.e. either yes or no. |
| 19:30.25 | DWSR | As opposed to sort of. |
| 19:30.44 | ZorbaTHut | so they don't have any objective basis for "were the moves performed according to spec"? |
| 19:30.55 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Nope. |
| 19:31.09 | DWSR | Each judge has their own interpretation of "correct". |
| 19:31.17 | ZorbaTHut | Alright. Then, yeah, that's worse. Although I have no idea why you didn't say that earlier :P |
| 19:31.20 | Lopeppeppy | They have some standards, be serious. |
| 19:31.31 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: De facto standards are *not* standards. |
| 19:31.42 | Lopeppeppy | If you fall, you lose points. If you fail to complete the x number of full turns required for the triple lutz, you lose points. |
| 19:32.00 | Lopeppeppy | They count and say, "No, she only did 2 and a half turns there, that will cost her". |
| 19:32.26 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: And if, during your landing, your heel comes up a little higher than it "should", you *can* be deducted. |
| 19:32.33 | DWSR | And that would be why I say it's not objective. |
| 19:32.44 | DWSR | Macroscopicly(sp?), yes, it's objective. |
| 19:32.44 | batbot | DWSR, my best guesses are Macroscopic+ly. |
| 19:32.46 | ZorbaTHut | the existence of subjectivity does not completely eliminate the existence of objectivity. |
| 19:33.04 | Lopeppeppy | How do you know there isn't a set of standards? "The heel should be no more than 1 inch from the ice" |
| 19:33.09 | ZorbaTHut | seriously, what you're saying is "well, there's no objectivity at all, if you discount all the objective bits" |
| 19:33.15 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Because my aunt coaches olympic skaters? |
| 19:33.27 | Lopeppeppy | What Zorba said. |
| 19:33.37 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: No, I just said macroscopicly. |
| 19:33.40 | Lopeppeppy | There's no objectivity at all, except the same objectivity in all judging. |
| 19:33.43 | AbsolutRayne | yawns |
| 19:33.46 | AbsolutRayne | Afternoon everyone |
| 19:33.47 | DWSR | (i.e. from far). |
| 19:33.57 | Lopeppeppy | Football, soccer, baseball, basketball... they all have human judges. |
| 19:34.06 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: They also have rules and points. |
| 19:34.11 | Lopeppeppy | So does skating. |
| 19:34.15 | DWSR | And points are far more objective than a score awarded by humans. |
| 19:34.48 | Lopeppeppy | You can lose those points if a judge subjectively decides that you were out of bounds when you threw the ball. |
| 19:35.08 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Which is why they have video replay. |
| 19:35.19 | DWSR | So that you can accurately determine whether or not you are actually out of bounds. |
| 19:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | Like that ever works! |
| 19:35.36 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Actually, it does. |
| 19:35.42 | DWSR | Not every time. |
| 19:35.46 | DWSR | But it does. |
| 19:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | Different camera angles show differen things. So it doesn't work every time. |
| 19:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | They could use it for skating too. |
| 19:35.55 | Lopeppeppy | Who knows. |
| 19:35.57 | ZorbaTHut | there are many subjective points in sports - things like "was that a foul" |
| 19:35.57 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Of course they could. |
| 19:36.04 | ZorbaTHut | "did he push the other dude, or did they just collide" |
| 19:36.22 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Right, but that's a whole lot less subjective than "this person wins and this person doesn't" |
| 19:36.28 | DWSR | why? because I said so. |
| 19:37.18 | DWSR | As Lopeppeppy mentioned, the only thing that you could possibly even consider objective is that every judge (theoretically) judges all of the skaters against their own internal criteria, which is unchanging. |
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| 19:37.48 | DWSR | But since we all know that that's a total and complete fantasy... |
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| 19:39.07 | DWSR | Canada vs. Norway curling just went into extra ends. |
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| 19:40.42 | Kraps | they were upgrading something here so i just sat cutting paper into small squares with an envelope opener |
| 19:40.48 | Ackis | so I just packed up like 75% of my office... I filled about 3/4 of a box... my co-workers have 5+ boxes lol |
| 19:41.26 | Kraps | Ackis: office moving? |
| 19:41.32 | KarlKFI|work | i still have the 1 box from my last move on my desk |
| 19:41.34 | Ackis | yup |
| 19:41.35 | DWSR | Ackis: You're Doing it Right. |
| 19:41.46 | Ackis | moving to the 2nd floor in a dungeon area, then in a few months moving to the 13th floor |
| 19:41.51 | Ackis | unless I get a new job |
| 19:41.56 | Ackis | which I'll be moving out of the building |
| 19:42.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... travel light is a good motto right now. |
| 19:42.39 | Lopeppeppy | If I had to move offices, I think I'd throw things away rather than pack them. |
| 19:42.48 | Ackis | DWSR: my personal stuff includes a bottle of ibuprofen and a Pomeranian ornament... plus my headphones |
| 19:43.52 | Kraps | ibuprofen > acetaminophen |
| 19:44.20 | Ackis | I have a lot of ligament damage in my shoulder, so it acts as an anti-inflammatory |
| 19:45.57 | Ackis | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/15/the-raw-face-of-the-death-star-moon/ |
| 19:46.16 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: did you find out how to nuke buzz? |
| 19:46.40 | foxlit | swift flight form still gets you a 310% flight speed boost with the appropriate mount, right? |
| 19:47.02 | nevcairiel | right |
| 19:47.05 | nevcairiel | which is <3 |
| 19:47.10 | Fisker | no |
| 19:47.13 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I did find uninstall directions. |
| 19:47.13 | Fisker | it is <\3 |
| 19:47.25 | Lopeppeppy | For everything except Google Reader, which I still have and have random unwanted followers in. |
| 19:47.37 | Fisker | i stalk u |
| 19:47.46 | Lopeppeppy | I knew it was something like that! |
| 19:47.52 | alestane | Kraps: Depends what you're trying to treat, but I use ibuprofen more than acetaminophen myself at the moment. |
| 19:48.04 | Ackis | how do you see your buzz followers? I never found a buzz app at all |
| 19:48.13 | nevcairiel | its in gmail |
| 19:48.42 | Lopeppeppy | It may not have been rolled out to you yet, I think they were doing stages. |
| 19:48.46 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Can you not remove it using GMail? |
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| 19:49.17 | Lopeppeppy | DWSR, there's no information on how to remove a Google Reader account at all. You can't unsub yourself, now that Buzz made me one, I have it forever. |
| 19:49.33 | Ackis | I'm following 7 people and have 8 followers apparently |
| 19:49.42 | Kraps | Ackis: it should be right under the "inbox" on the left side |
| 19:49.47 | Lopeppeppy | Once all the people it invited accept, I can delete them and have no followers... but Google has no information on how to END my unwanted Google Readership. |
| 19:51.01 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: If you unsub from everything and then remove all of your followers, you have effectively ended it. |
| 19:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | I just have to wait for everyone to accept or maybe the invites to time out (which I doubt they will). There are like... 15 pending. |
| 19:51.54 | Ackis | zomg I've been buzzed |
| 19:51.58 | Ackis | so... what's the big deal? |
| 19:52.00 | Ackis | follows Lopeppeppy |
| 19:52.04 | Kraps | alestane: i use ibuprofen for everything, except when i need something specific, like an expectorant |
| 19:52.17 | Kraps | Ackis: it is fail /thread |
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| 19:53.03 | Ackis | like I follow jnwhiteh so I see things he recommends in feedly, I find that interesting, what's so special about google buzz above and beyond that? |
| 19:53.11 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing. |
| 19:53.14 | Fisker | i like to follow Lopeppeppy |
| 19:53.19 | Fisker | at a distance of 100 feet |
| 19:53.23 | Fisker | with a binocular |
| 19:53.31 | Lopeppeppy | Because that's how far I can throw shiruken. |
| 19:53.41 | Lunessa | Fisker: The restraining order requires you to be 200 yards from her. |
| 19:53.58 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I haven't retrieved his DNA yet to prove it's him and not zenzelezz. |
| 19:54.09 | Ackis | http://www.google.com/profiles/ackis81 |
| 19:54.15 | alestane | http://xkcd.com/415/ |
| 19:54.30 | DWSR | http://www.facebook.com/jpasula <- win |
| 19:54.55 | Kraps | Ackis: gad, why does everything need to be profiles these days? |
| 19:55.03 | Ackis | hey DWSR that's me! |
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| 19:58.48 | Thunder_Child | www.voxox.com |
| 19:59.51 | DWSR | t_c: wtf is that? |
| 19:59.51 | alestane | Is there a functional difference between the floating-point values 0 and -0? |
| 20:00.01 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: realtime translation |
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| 20:00.41 | kaiden | Anyone that's good at macros able to tell me why a macro i've made with 2 modifier comments also switches for a modifier i dont have setup on it |
| 20:00.58 | kaiden | i have [nomodifier] and [modifier:shift] but when i press ctrl it switches to the ? macro icon |
| 20:01.53 | Ackis | how do I find people to stalk on google buzz? |
| 20:03.32 | DWSR | kaiden: Yes. |
| 20:03.48 | DWSR | kaiden: Post the whole macro please. |
| 20:04.01 | alestane | kaiden: Because neither of those is true when you're holding Ctrl. |
| 20:04.05 | kaiden | /cast [nomodifier] Arcane Intellect; [modifier:shift] Arcane Brilliance; |
| 20:04.14 | kaiden | alestane, right but it shouldn't switch at that point |
| 20:04.23 | kaiden | ohhh i see what you mean |
| 20:04.25 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.33 | kaiden | i'll add a modifier for control as well |
| 20:04.39 | kaiden | that way it doesn't switch |
| 20:04.42 | DWSR | what alestane |
| 20:04.44 | DWSR | said |
| 20:04.46 | kaiden | oh or that |
| 20:04.47 | kaiden | :) |
| 20:04.48 | DWSR | You don't need [nomodifier] |
| 20:04.57 | alestane | No, don't. Take out the f'ing [nomodifier] clause entirely. |
| 20:05.00 | kaiden | thanks! can't believe i didn't think of that |
| 20:05.01 | kaiden | hehe |
| 20:05.13 | DWSR | kaiden: When you add a conditional, you seperate that condition from the 'default' state. |
| 20:05.37 | DWSR | When you hit the ctrl modifier, the macro encountered an undefined condition and defaulted to the 'default' state. |
| 20:05.43 | DWSR | Which, in your original case, was nothing. |
| 20:05.52 | alestane | Or to write it another way, it's the difference between "if shift is down then cast AB, else cast AI" and "If shift is down then cast AB, else if NOTHING is down, THEN cast AI." |
| 20:05.58 | Kraps | dalaran in-game actually used to be in that hole? |
| 20:06.03 | cogwheel | ay it doesn't switch |
| 20:06.06 | cogwheel | err mt |
| 20:06.09 | cogwheel | misclick* |
| 20:06.14 | DWSR | Kraps: It used to be in a giant bubble... |
| 20:06.15 | cogwheel | *grumbles at putty* |
| 20:06.30 | DWSR | Kraps: But yes, that's where Dalaran *used* to be |
| 20:06.30 | alestane | Kraps: There was a giant bubble that presumably had Dalaran inside of it. |
| 20:06.44 | DWSR | alestane: It actually had nothing inside. |
| 20:06.47 | Kraps | dang |
| 20:06.48 | DWSR | You used to be able to blink through it. |
| 20:08.24 | DWSR | What you should note is that A) the crater is approximately the size of Dalaran. |
| 20:08.30 | DWSR | and b) that there's no pipes in the crater. |
| 20:08.31 | Seerah | by "bubble" they mean magical shield |
| 20:08.37 | Kraps | Earthliving Weapon is new, huh |
| 20:08.52 | DWSR | Seerah: By bubble we my "opaque divine shield, except city sized" |
| 20:09.13 | DWSR | s/we my/we mean/ |
| 20:09.15 | Seerah | wonder if Dalaran will ever go back.... |
| 20:09.19 | DWSR | No |
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| 20:09.42 | Seerah | sighs |
| 20:09.46 | DWSR | Blizzard has a habit of not touching old content until they have to. |
| 20:09.52 | DWSR | They don't *have* to move Dalaran, therefore they won't. |
| 20:09.53 | Seerah | cata :p |
| 20:10.04 | DWSR | Seerah: Yes, but they have to touch all of the old content in order to revamp it for Cata. |
| 20:10.12 | Seerah | :) |
| 20:10.16 | ZorbaTHut | dalaran isn't going back until they scrap and rebuild Northrend, but no way are they doing that for at least two expansions |
| 20:10.18 | ZorbaTHut | probably more |
| 20:10.24 | Seerah | it's a freakin flying city - it *could* go wherever they wanted :) |
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| 20:10.36 | DWSR | Seerah: Cataclysm doesn't make sense if only 3 zones on the entire planet look like a disaster zone. |
| 20:10.47 | DWSR | Seerah: It could also stay exactly where it is. |
| 20:10.47 | Kraps | the mages need more mana |
| 20:10.54 | DWSR | However, WTB guild cities. |
| 20:11.06 | DWSR | Not cities, but lounges or areas. |
| 20:11.11 | DWSR | Where it's instanced to your guild. |
| 20:11.26 | Seerah | passes around the truffles. sometimes people take me too seriously :p |
| 20:11.41 | DWSR | Seerah: It's WoW. |
| 20:11.42 | cogwheel | the fungus or the chocolate? |
| 20:11.44 | DWSR | It's srs bzn. |
| 20:11.55 | Seerah | cogwheel: the chocolate :) I just ate a white chocolate one |
| 20:11.57 | Seerah | mmmmmmmmm |
| 20:11.58 | DWSR | cogwheel: The fungus restores health. :P |
| 20:12.08 | Ackis | follows cogwheel |
| 20:12.10 | Seerah | but not as tasty... |
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| 20:12.12 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 20:12.18 | Seerah | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:12.19 | foxlit | qq, Seerah |
| 20:12.21 | alestane | Back already? |
| 20:12.27 | DWSR | brb |
| 20:12.37 | alestane | SOmehow I thought you'd be going home. |
| 20:13.35 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=178767&postcount=9 << far too kind |
| 20:13.52 | Seerah | always, dear :) |
| 20:14.33 | alestane | My policy (usually): "Giving people who don't deserve it help they can't understand." |
| 20:14.43 | foxlit | alestane: I did just that. |
| 20:14.44 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi. No, I was sheeple attacked |
| 20:14.51 | foxlit | Got an awesome "I don't think so" answer. |
| 20:14.59 | Seerah | hehe |
| 20:15.13 | alestane | That sounds like a bad anime fight battlecry. |
| 20:15.34 | alestane | "Sheepuru ATTA~KKU!" |
| 20:17.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, there are days it feels that way. |
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| 20:18.28 | Kraps | "At least Lunar New Year is an actual holiday celebrated by many cultures, unlike Valentines day which is a retarded day fabricated by corporate entities to make money from idiots who don't know any better aka sheep. I don't need 1 day to express my love to my significant other. I do that every day like I should. Like the others have said, if you don't like the Lunar holiday, don't do it." |
| 20:19.43 | Kraps | hes wrong about v-day's origin but great post |
| 20:20.05 | Adys | Lunar holiday isn't "celebrated by many cultures" |
| 20:20.30 | alestane | Most of Asia. |
| 20:20.36 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:20.52 | alestane | More people than Valentine's Day, I'm guessing. |
| 20:20.54 | Adys | and pretty much no country in europe or americas |
| 20:21.30 | Adys | valentine's is celebrated under other names in some other cultures |
| 20:22.03 | Adys | iirc the brazilian carnaval is pretty much a vday |
| 20:23.32 | Adys | hm |
| 20:23.36 | Adys | Im thinking of something else |
| 20:25.44 | mitchnull | you're thinking of boobs, admit it |
| 20:25.50 | Adys | Your boobs |
| 20:26.21 | mitchnull | you have bad taste then |
| 20:26.41 | Adys | OR DO I?! |
| 20:26.52 | durcyn | they seem to get larger and shapelier by the day |
| 20:28.07 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: "Sheeple Attack" also makes me think of this: http://s957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/starspectre/?action=view¤t=sheeple.png |
| 20:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | Wish I could skin them. |
| 20:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | Gosh the roads are hideous this afternoon. Apparently we've had several accidents on campus already. Not looking forward to the drive home. |
| 20:31.08 | alestane | Yeah, visibility was awful and roads were kind of sloppy going home. |
| 20:33.18 | Lopeppeppy | Our visibility is fine, but we got 2 inches in 2 hours, the plows are not keeping up. |
| 20:33.50 | Lopeppeppy | The way I go home normally is quite hilly, I think I'll be taking detours. |
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| 20:34.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
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| 20:36.47 | alestane | Wow, snow has stepped up the pace since I got home. |
| 20:36.50 | *** part/#wowuidev Movix1 (~Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 20:37.22 | Lopeppeppy | It's kicking our hineys right now. Just in time for afternoon commute. |
| 20:37.36 | alestane | chains Peppy's tires. |
| 20:37.58 | Lopeppeppy | I wish. They're more trouble than they're worth up here, sadly. |
| 20:39.07 | nicoli_s | it has died down completely here |
| 20:39.34 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:39.58 | Lopeppeppy | My one card tarot for the weather = incompleteness, shoddy design, a great work gone wrong, failure to reach goals, regret and disappointment. Wheeee! |
| 20:40.09 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:40.12 | nicoli_s | fisker gimme sc2 |
| 20:40.17 | nicoli_s | all i want is the client |
| 20:40.38 | DWSR | http://is.gd/8wPtm |
| 20:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | no can has |
| 20:41.02 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Which card was this? |
| 20:41.11 | Lopeppeppy | World reversed, Rider Waite. |
| 20:41.43 | alestane | Yeah, that doesn't augur well. |
| 20:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | Neither does that snow. :P |
| 20:42.15 | alestane | feels like playing The Fool's Errand now. |
| 20:42.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'm craving chinese, no WAY I'm going to slog through snow to get it. |
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| 20:43.26 | Ackis | I had chinese |
| 20:43.27 | Ackis | yesterday |
| 20:43.33 | Ackis | and valentines day |
| 20:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | I had pastas. |
| 20:43.46 | Ackis | pastas is good |
| 20:43.53 | Ackis | I need to get the fiancee to make me pastas |
| 20:44.02 | nicoli_s | mmm pasta |
| 20:44.03 | Lopeppeppy | Poof, you're pastas? |
| 20:44.07 | nicoli_s | i havent had any good pasta in a while |
| 20:44.21 | nicoli_s | think i might be joining you in your engagedness before too long ackis |
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| 20:44.54 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I'm sorry :( |
| 20:45.00 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis! |
| 20:45.08 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:45.31 | nicoli_s | better hope i dont send that log to yer fiancee on facebook :P |
| 20:45.46 | Ackis | nah she knows I'm full of regret ;) |
| 20:46.00 | Ackis | I still have issues calling her my fiancee |
| 20:46.10 | Ackis | so used to calling her the gf |
| 20:46.27 | nicoli_s | im sure ill be the same |
| 20:47.38 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:48.00 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.10 | Ackis | on a side note our dealership told us to "ignore the warning light, it only comes on due to air changes" |
| 20:48.15 | Fisker | ice winter Kraps ? |
| 20:48.19 | Ackis | turns out the tire was getitng dangerously loooowwww |
| 20:48.30 | nicoli_s | scary |
| 20:48.59 | Kraps | wheelchair + deep(ish) snow = bad |
| 20:50.33 | Seerah | yeah, that makes it difficult to get around... :( |
| 20:50.53 | Seerah | maybe put the chains peppy rejected onto your tires :p |
| 20:50.54 | Fisker | btw nicoli_s |
| 20:50.55 | Fisker | http://forums.battle.net/login.html?sid=5010 |
| 20:51.45 | nicoli_s | cant wait |
| 20:51.59 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, it's pretty thick and stupid out there, you may have issues. |
| 20:52.24 | Kraps | woo my ride is here, laters! |
| 20:52.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi, Cairenn. I pinged you earlier, did you see? |
| 20:52.34 | Kraps | i know peppy |
| 20:52.45 | Cairenn | not yet sweetie, what's up? |
| 20:52.58 | Lopeppeppy | Aspartame is your evill, yes? |
| 20:53.01 | Shirik | hai Cairenn |
| 20:53.07 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: yes |
| 20:53.09 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.foodbev.com/news/ajinomoto-brands-aspartame-aminosweet |
| 20:53.12 | Cairenn | hey Shirik :) |
| 20:53.19 | Lopeppeppy | They're rebranding it, new name to start watching for. |
| 20:53.29 | Cairenn | ugh, okay, thanks |
| 20:54.02 | Shirik | ugh |
| 20:54.04 | Lopeppeppy | Same company has another artificial sweeter in the approval process, might want to look that one up, because I'm sure it's as hideous. |
| 20:54.05 | Shirik | thanks Lopeppeppy |
| 20:54.09 | Shirik | I'll send that to my mom too :P |
| 20:54.16 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, duly noted Shirik. |
| 20:54.18 | nicoli_s | yech aspartame |
| 20:54.27 | Cairenn | and my mom now too, it seems |
| 20:54.45 | Lopeppeppy | Those things do tend to run in families, I hear. |
| 20:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | Damn genetics. |
| 20:54.54 | nicoli_s | people should just use miracle fruits if they want sweetness |
| 20:55.45 | Lopeppeppy | I like my Junior Mints. |
| 20:56.07 | nicoli_s | have you tried miracle fruit before? its awesome |
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| 20:56.30 | Shadowed | !ping |
| 20:56.30 | batbot | Shadowed: pong! |
| 20:56.32 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather dump a vat of real sugar in. Wish I could. |
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| 20:57.18 | Shadowed | Colloquy is terrible :( |
| 20:57.39 | Adys | ~colloquy-- |
| 20:57.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (~Shadowed@li89-205.members.linode.com) |
| 20:57.58 | Shadowed | Welp appears I won't be closing that window anymore |
| 20:57.59 | alestane | I tried the new Adium IRC and found Colloquy much more functional. |
| 20:58.08 | Adys | Not only it's terrible, it also appears to be very sensitive |
| 20:58.17 | Shadowed | Colloquy is more functional, but it's not very efficient |
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| 21:00.53 | Lopeppeppy | All this snow, and me without sneakers or boots. |
| 21:01.21 | Cairenn | ugh for the heels-ness? |
| 21:01.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (~Shadowed@li53-10.members.linode.com) |
| 21:02.01 | Cairenn | staples Shadowed to the channel |
| 21:02.18 | Shadowed | That wasn't Colloquy's fault, I just was switching to my own proxy :p |
| 21:04.07 | Lopeppeppy | They're at least business flats with pants, but still. Bad Peppy was still asleep this morning. |
| 21:04.36 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: bleh, yeah, and 0 traction on them |
| 21:05.14 | Cairenn | (I'm presuming) |
| 21:05.17 | Lopeppeppy | I'll probably take them off in the car, no matter how cold my feet get. |
| 21:05.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, no traction. |
| 21:05.27 | Lopeppeppy | Luckily, I'm part yeti. |
| 21:05.36 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:05.42 | nicoli_s | just take yer shoes off and let your feet freeze |
| 21:05.51 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much, nicoli_s. |
| 21:05.53 | nicoli_s | thatll protect you from the pain! |
| 21:05.56 | alestane | So either you're accustomed to climbing over snowbanks, you have large feet, or both. |
| 21:06.07 | Lopeppeppy | You decide. |
| 21:07.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (~Shadowed@li53-10.members.linode.com) |
| 21:07.47 | Shadowed | Oddly enough, closing your proxy disconnects you |
| 21:08.00 | Cairenn | funny how that works, Shadowed |
| 21:08.07 | Shadowed | it is, isn't it |
| 21:08.19 | Cairenn | I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! |
| 21:08.26 | Shadowed | You sound quite shocked |
| 21:08.29 | durcyn | scandalous. |
| 21:11.32 | DWSR | Fabulous. |
| 21:12.27 | Fisker | give me 10000 kroner Cairenn |
| 21:12.46 | Shadowed | ban Fisker |
| 21:12.51 | DWSR | Shadowed: I have to have a CLI svn client? |
| 21:13.02 | DWSR | for your WoWIUploader? |
| 21:13.07 | Audible | Fisker : you BEGGAR! |
| 21:13.22 | Fisker | naw Audible |
| 21:13.27 | Fisker | i r robbing Cairenn |
| 21:13.28 | Shadowed | Unless you have another way of calling SVN from command line :p |
| 21:15.25 | DWSR | Shadowed: I use a neural network to visualize the SVN repository and manipulate it as I see fit. |
| 21:15.32 | DWSR | s/network/interface/ |
| 21:17.12 | DWSR | http://zero.facebook.com <-- ftlulz. |
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| 21:17.49 | nicoli_s | thats weird |
| 21:18.14 | nicoli_s | i wonder why it redirects to the mobile facebook |
| 21:18.24 | Fisker | no! |
| 21:18.38 | DWSR | It's Facebook's text-only mobile site. |
| 21:18.52 | DWSR | Which I'm sure is just a redir |
| 21:20.51 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 21:21.04 | cogwheel | I should change my name to M@thew Orl&o |
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| 21:21.25 | Ackis | no |
| 21:21.40 | cogwheel | M@thew ||l&o ? |
| 21:21.44 | Cairenn | ~veto cogwheel's idea |
| 21:21.54 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 21:22.22 | Fisker | maybe you should just delete your facebook profile |
| 21:22.35 | cogwheel | yes |
| 21:22.43 | Cairenn | besides, that's not an "add", that's an ampersand |
| 21:22.55 | Cairenn | s/add/and/ |
| 21:23.15 | Ackis | is this shopped: http://trollcats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/godwin_is_a_nazi_trollcat.png ? |
| 21:23.20 | Fisker | i disagree Cairenn |
| 21:23.21 | Adys | cogwheel: m'@u ||l'$dough |
| 21:23.24 | cogwheel | but you say it "and"... M&Ms isn't "M ampersand Ms" :P |
| 21:23.28 | Adys | cogwheel: m'@u ||l'&dough even |
| 21:23.33 | Cairenn | I know :p |
| 21:23.36 | Cairenn | being a smartass |
| 21:23.37 | nicoli_s | @ackis: probably not |
| 21:23.38 | Cairenn | sheesh |
| 21:23.43 | cogwheel | smartasses back |
| 21:23.43 | nicoli_s | my mom has a cat that looks just like that |
| 21:23.57 | Fisker | i look just like that nicoli_s |
| 21:24.01 | cogwheel | <3 |
| 21:26.11 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, the campus will be without power tomorrow! |
| 21:26.25 | Shadowed | you don't need power |
| 21:26.26 | Lopeppeppy | Let's see how long that backup generator lasts. |
| 21:26.27 | Shadowed | that's what books are for |
| 21:26.37 | Fisker | don't cut over powerlines with metal scissors |
| 21:26.40 | cbreak | day off? |
| 21:26.45 | Lopeppeppy | I wish, cbreak. |
| 21:26.55 | Shadowed | at least you don't have to look at any boring powerpoints |
| 21:26.58 | cbreak | candlelight powered projectors? :) |
| 21:27.17 | Lopeppeppy | ttfn, I have to go brave the snowy evil roads. Wish me greatest of luck! |
| 21:27.21 | cbreak | make sure your laptop is powered :) |
| 21:27.35 | Ackis | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-fire-danger-fail.jpg |
| 21:27.40 | Ackis | that's you Fisker |
| 21:27.51 | Fisker | naw Ackis |
| 21:28.11 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:28.41 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:28.53 | Cairenn | that poor lady |
| 21:29.08 | Cairenn | she must have been a) so scared and then b) so embarrassed |
| 21:29.09 | Adys | why's nothing funny when I link it the first time >.> |
| 21:29.09 | nicoli_s | i bet she is starting to wonder how close the alzheimers is now |
| 21:29.25 | Cairenn | Adys: because I didn't see it? sowwy |
| 21:29.32 | nicoli_s | adys: we usually just ignore your links because of the higher than normal amount of not funny |
| 21:29.33 | Adys | NOT AN EXCUSE |
| 21:29.38 | nicoli_s | see:garfieldminusgarfield |
| 21:29.44 | Ackis | lol nicoli_s |
| 21:29.53 | Ackis | all my links are funny Adys! |
| 21:29.54 | DWSR | nicoli_s: Actually, G-G is pretty funny, usually. |
| 21:29.56 | Adys | http://sunlightlabs.com/blog/2010/our-door-opener-science-project/ |
| 21:30.08 | pompy | ~lart Ackis |
| 21:30.08 | purl | nukes Ackis with a single large nuke |
| 21:30.10 | Ackis | wow check this out http://sunlightlabs.com/blog/2010/our-door-opener-science-project/ |
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| 21:30.17 | Adys | u bad |
| 21:30.27 | Ackis | I had to mock you |
| 21:30.29 | nicoli_s | hilarious ackis |
| 21:30.35 | nicoli_s | where do you find these links? |
| 21:30.48 | Ackis | it's like they're magically handed to me |
| 21:30.59 | pompy | stumbleupon? lol |
| 21:31.02 | Adys | If I link porn, everyone will ignore me |
| 21:31.06 | Adys | ackis will relink it |
| 21:31.08 | Adys | he'll get banned |
| 21:31.12 | Adys | ??? PROFIT |
| 21:31.22 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:31.30 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:31.38 | nicoli_s | anyone got any advice for someone learning how to solder some basic circuits? |
| 21:31.39 | Cairenn | wow, the women are having a hell of a hard time with the snowboard qualifying runs |
| 21:31.44 | Ackis | I got banned from the wow forums for making lemonparty into a tiny URL and linking it :( |
| 21:31.50 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:31.56 | pompy | lol |
| 21:31.56 | Adys | nicoli_s: Buy a thing to solder metal |
| 21:31.59 | Shadowed | Ackis: I WONDER WHY |
| 21:32.00 | Shadowed | ponders |
| 21:32.16 | Ackis | Shadowed: it was a damn good way to go IMO :P |
| 21:32.24 | Ackis | that was my first forum ban /sigh |
| 21:32.26 | Fisker | take one look at yourself Ackis |
| 21:32.41 | nicoli_s | 1 step ahead of that adys |
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| 21:32.53 | Adys | nicoli_s: unwrap the thing to solder metal |
| 21:32.56 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:33.03 | nicoli_s | im designing a LED hoola hoop, should be pretty fun |
| 21:35.15 | Dagmar | Decided to go ahead and give up on heterosexuality? |
| 21:35.33 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 21:35.37 | DWSR | Dagmar: Did you listen, btw? |
| 21:35.53 | DWSR | Cairenn: Yeah. |
| 21:36.00 | DWSR | nicoli_s: Yes. TIAS. |
| 21:36.07 | Dagmar | If I had to push a button to breathe this day at work would have killed me two hours ago |
| 21:36.09 | Dagmar | I'm working on i |
| 21:36.11 | Dagmar | t |
| 21:36.15 | nicoli_s | Dagmar:hoola hooping isnt just for women |
| 21:36.24 | nicoli_s | its a pretty cool hippie workout |
| 21:36.44 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: The moment you put flashing lights on it, you have exited heterosexual behaviour-land. |
| 21:36.50 | DWSR | nicoli_s: Soldering really is very easy. Just requires a steady hand, soldering iron, soldering paste, and some solder. |
| 21:36.52 | nicoli_s | well its not for me, its for my gf |
| 21:36.58 | Dagmar | That's better |
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| 21:37.13 | nicoli_s | @DWSR: ive done some basic soldering before, this will be my first time doing any actual circuit board |
| 21:37.13 | DWSR | nicoli_s: I soldered my headphones back together. :) |
| 21:37.15 | Dagmar | Some hula-hoop people came to PhreakNIC either last year or the year before |
| 21:37.22 | nicoli_s | since it needs to have seperate effects and colors and such |
| 21:37.22 | Dagmar | THey were very popular with some of the Yak.net guys |
| 21:37.37 | nicoli_s | its cool shit, my gf is a teacher and can do some crazy moves |
| 21:38.08 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: ignore them and just go on with your bad self, I think it'd be freaking amazing to watch in the dark |
| 21:38.15 | DWSR | nicoli_s: You'll be fine. |
| 21:38.31 | DWSR | Especially on Acid. |
| 21:38.32 | DWSR | I mean.... |
| 21:38.33 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:38.34 | DWSR | *cough* |
| 21:38.52 | nicoli_s | no thanks on that, the inner depths of my mind arent anywhere id like to go any time soon |
| 21:38.55 | Dagmar | For some reason they didn't have a selection of hula-hoop accessories that ticked my fancy. |
| 21:38.58 | Ackis | DWSR: shrooms would work and would have less of a negative impact |
| 21:39.02 | Dagmar | No razor blades, for instance. |
| 21:39.29 | DWSR | Ackis: You call it negative impact, I call it the Dark Side of the Force. |
| 21:39.35 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:39.42 | Dagmar | "loose baggage in yer head" |
| 21:40.28 | DWSR | Ackis: I find your lack of faith disturbing. |
| 21:41.45 | xqo | I need an addon that moves tooltips to the mouse. any tip?? |
| 21:41.48 | xqo | tips*' |
| 21:41.50 | Ackis | dark side of teh foroce? |
| 21:43.33 | DWSR | xqo: TinyTip |
| 21:43.38 | DWSR | xqo: CowTip |
| 21:43.50 | DWSR | FINALLY. |
| 21:43.59 | DWSR | I have warped it correctly. :D |
| 21:44.00 | Ackis | tiptac |
| 21:44.04 | DWSR | Warping acapellas is such a fucking pain in the ass. |
| 21:44.07 | Ackis | tip teh cows |
| 21:44.39 | Cairenn | damnit! |
| 21:44.44 | DWSR | Anyone here know of a decent visualizer? |
| 21:44.49 | DWSR | Cairenn: Canadian fail in snowboarding? |
| 21:45.04 | Cairenn | Dominique fell, couldn't make the time |
| 21:45.17 | DWSR | Such fail. |
| 21:45.21 | Cairenn | needed to be in the top 16 to qualify, ended up 19th :( |
| 21:45.22 | Cairenn | damnit! |
| 21:46.38 | Cairenn | Maelle made it though ...... |
| 21:46.50 | Cairenn | phew, at least one in the finals |
| 21:46.50 | DWSR | She'll fall, don't worry /sigh |
| 21:46.57 | Ackis | http://www.urlesque.com/2010/02/10/misspelled-political-signs/ some of them are pretty amusing |
| 21:47.00 | Cairenn | no, she ran it clean |
| 21:47.02 | DWSR | Cairenn: No, she's made the quarters. |
| 21:47.28 | Cairenn | yeah yeah, but they count |
| 21:47.34 | DWSR | Cairenn: Assertion Failed. Just because she did doesn't mean she will continue to do so. |
| 21:47.45 | DWSR | Cairenn: If it isn't worth a medal, it doesn't count. =\ |
| 21:48.13 | DWSR | (Sorry for the pessimism, I'm still amazed at how the men's boarderX could give up such a huge lead). |
| 21:49.04 | Ackis | you and me both DWSR |
| 21:49.24 | Cairenn | well, Maelle currently sits 3rd |
| 21:49.39 | Cairenn | I can't believe how much trouble they're having with the course today though! |
| 21:49.48 | DWSR | Ackis: He was *miles* ahead. |
| 21:49.48 | Cairenn | I'm seeing more of them on their asses than on their feet |
| 21:49.53 | DWSR | He had enough time for a smoke break |
| 21:50.03 | DWSR | Cairenn: Same with the figure skaters |
| 21:50.21 | DWSR | These Olympics have been just awful in terms of event conditions. |
| 21:52.06 | Cairenn | that's because the eastern seaboard of the US stole all our snow |
| 21:52.21 | Cairenn | greedy americans |
| 21:52.54 | kd3 | they're welcome to have it back |
| 21:52.58 | kd3 | we've had quite enough |
| 21:54.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:54.21 | Shadowed | our snow |
| 21:54.24 | Shadowed | none for you |
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| 21:54.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (~WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 21:54.52 | Kraps | ohai |
| 21:57.22 | Thunder_Child | yes, i'll be going there soon |
| 22:00.16 | DWSR | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.urlesque.com/media/2009/09/05bus33.jpg |
| 22:02.00 | DJJeff | can I install CC V4 into c:/program files/curse ? |
| 22:02.31 | DWSR | DJJeff: You can install it anywhere you want. |
| 22:02.38 | DWSR | I wouldn't recommend installing it over CC v3 though |
| 22:02.52 | DJJeff | instead of buried about in docs and settings somewheres |
| 22:03.11 | DJJeff | C:\Documents and Settings\Jeffery Wilkins\Local Settings\Apps\2.0\H58GW6J4.R3N\T1CQE963.VCK\curs..tion_eee711038731a406_0004.0000_152ef8e62d913ac8\ |
| 22:03.14 | Ackis | DWSR: no you can't |
| 22:03.21 | DJJeff | I mean wtf is that dir |
| 22:03.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Vilkku (~Vilkku@dsl-tkubrasgw1-ffc7c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 22:03.25 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 22:03.30 | DWSR | DJJeff: Oh, right, sorry. |
| 22:03.40 | Ackis | it's a web app thingy, using the MS framework that installs it there :( |
| 22:03.40 | DWSR | Why do you care? |
| 22:03.44 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 22:05.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Jiminizer7 (~jiminizer@152.105.165.179) |
| 22:06.07 | Kraps | wtf, a friend using buzz to write "buzzzzzzzzzzzzzz suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkksssssssssssss" |
| 22:07.25 | Adys | and you call him a friend? |
| 22:07.57 | DJJeff | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4363704456_a954e3c0d5_o.png |
| 22:07.59 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 22:08.55 | DJJeff | I love process explorer to death |
| 22:09.04 | DJJeff | it should be installed on everyones machine |
| 22:09.15 | DJJeff | but then computer repair techs would be out of work |
| 22:09.24 | DJJeff | cause all virus would be shot and killed |
| 22:09.30 | Kraps | Adys: i actually agree with him but i told him to just ignore it |
| 22:09.54 | Fisker | hides behind Kraps |
| 22:10.00 | Adys | anyone who writes like a 5 year old child is not someone I wish to call a friend |
| 22:10.10 | Kraps | DJJeff: oh thanks, couldnt remember the name of it |
| 22:10.19 | DWSR | Adys: That's insulting to the 5 year olds. |
| 22:10.47 | DJJeff | couldn't remmeber the name of what? |
| 22:10.51 | Fisker | stop right there Kraps |
| 22:11.10 | DWSR | Stop. |
| 22:11.13 | DWSR | IN THE NAME OF LOVE. |
| 22:11.16 | DWSR | BEFORE YOU BREAK MY HEART |
| 22:11.19 | DJJeff | ..................... X_X |
| 22:11.21 | Kraps | what |
| 22:11.28 | DJJeff | hahahahahahaha |
| 22:11.29 | Thunder_Child | ~lart DWSR |
| 22:11.29 | purl | whacks DWSR upside the head |
| 22:11.30 | DWSR | hehe |
| 22:11.33 | DWSR | dodges |
| 22:11.38 | DWSR | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 22:11.38 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on Thunder_Child |
| 22:11.42 | DWSR | win |
| 22:11.50 | DJJeff | ~lart DJJeff |
| 22:11.50 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides DJJeff with the sea of tranquility |
| 22:11.50 | Thunder_Child | ~dodgle DWSR |
| 22:11.53 | Cairenn | be careful, I whack people upside the head with a lot more accuracy than purl |
| 22:12.05 | Thunder_Child | lies Cairenn, you promise but never deliver |
| 22:12.08 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 22:12.09 | DWSR | ^^ |
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| 22:12.20 | DWSR | Besides, who says I wouldn't want to get smacked upside the head by you? :P |
| 22:12.23 | DJJeff | !w v5v4c1 |
| 22:12.27 | Cairenn | I do sometimes, you just have to either (a) beg prettily enough, or (b) piss me off enough |
| 22:12.30 | Kraps | what the hell just happened? |
| 22:12.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 22:12.41 | DWSR | will only ever be able to accomplish (b). |
| 22:12.55 | Thunder_Child | i still call BS Cairenn, i have never actually had you smack me |
| 22:13.04 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: you haven't managed either yet |
| 22:13.04 | Thunder_Child | i even asked for it at one of the blizzcons |
| 22:13.25 | Thunder_Child | well....doing B in person would get me more than smacked i surmise |
| 22:13.40 | Thunder_Child | and i dont do A |
| 22:13.49 | DJJeff | is there gonna be a blizzcon next year? |
| 22:13.52 | DWSR | yes |
| 22:13.53 | Shadowed | of course :p |
| 22:13.57 | Shadowed | Cairenn: is too nice to hit people |
| 22:13.58 | DJJeff | cooooooooooool |
| 22:14.04 | Thunder_Child | you mean this year? |
| 22:14.06 | Shadowed | maybe if you get her really drunk |
| 22:14.10 | DJJeff | I wish star trek convention in canada X_X |
| 22:14.12 | Cairenn | *dws* |
| 22:14.18 | DWSR | ? |
| 22:14.29 | Cairenn | that wasn't at you |
| 22:14.35 | DJJeff | I wanna goto vegas just for the star trek con |
| 22:14.43 | DWSR | oh heh |
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| 22:14.49 | Kraps | is having firefox memorize your passwords bad? |
| 22:15.00 | DJJeff | if you computer gets compromized |
| 22:15.01 | DJJeff | yes |
| 22:15.09 | Thunder_Child | i would say yes in general |
| 22:15.12 | DWSR | Kraps: Yes. |
| 22:15.18 | DJJeff | dont allow remote access to your pc |
| 22:15.20 | Thunder_Child | other people may use your computer |
| 22:15.21 | DWSR | Get a dedicated password program. |
| 22:15.21 | Kraps | TOO BAD :P |
| 22:15.42 | DWSR | Dagmar: Damn. |
| 22:15.49 | DWSR | I dunno how to follow up this BT tune. |
| 22:15.49 | DJJeff | Kraps can I port scan you and see if your vuln? |
| 22:15.50 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: "other people" would be my family |
| 22:15.59 | Thunder_Child | dont ask if you are just going to ignore the answer Kraps |
| 22:16.04 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: exactly |
| 22:16.40 | Kraps | i'm not worried about them honestly |
| 22:17.07 | DWSR | You should be. |
| 22:17.08 | DJJeff | Kraps all your ports are firewalled |
| 22:17.23 | DJJeff | from the WAN side |
| 22:17.25 | DJJeff | you are ok |
| 22:17.28 | DWSR | Kraps: You should eliminate as many attack vectors as possible. |
| 22:17.38 | DJJeff | stay of the pr0n and you will be ok :) |
| 22:17.48 | DWSR | Kraps: Your family members may not give away your information intentionally. They might leave the computer unlocked and someone else will take them, or something similar. |
| 22:18.42 | DJJeff | most hackers attack porn and physhing sites |
| 22:18.55 | DJJeff | if you know how to detect and avoid them |
| 22:18.56 | DJJeff | you are ok |
| 22:18.58 | Kraps | is not a porn |
| 22:19.11 | DJJeff | firefox warns about most physhing sites now anyways |
| 22:19.12 | DWSR | DJJeff: Phishing* |
| 22:19.15 | DJJeff | ya |
| 22:19.22 | DJJeff | Phishing |
| 22:19.23 | DJJeff | sorry |
| 22:20.02 | DWSR | As I said, the more attack vectors you leave open, the more likely you are to be compromised. |
| 22:20.10 | DWSR | Hence why I have 256bit AES encryption on every harddrive I own. |
| 22:20.18 | DWSR | All keyed to my laptop. |
| 22:20.24 | DJJeff | isn't that over doing it? |
| 22:20.25 | DJJeff | lol |
| 22:20.27 | DWSR | No. |
| 22:20.33 | DJJeff | you must have sensitive date |
| 22:20.34 | DJJeff | data |
| 22:20.47 | DWSR | DJJeff: The encryption is keyed to my laptop. |
| 22:21.04 | DWSR | So, as long as it's being connected to my laptop, encryption is almost transparent. |
| 22:21.07 | Kraps | i did have a virus ONCE... |
| 22:21.09 | DJJeff | keep all your sensitive data seperate from your online/play machine |
| 22:21.19 | DWSR | DJJeff: I have sensitive data online. |
| 22:21.25 | DWSR | Can't avoid a lot of that. |
| 22:21.26 | Thunder_Child | i keep all my sensitive data in my head, works great. |
| 22:21.27 | Kraps | but i beat the shit out of it |
| 22:21.35 | Thunder_Child | much better encryption |
| 22:21.43 | DWSR | Until you forget it. :P |
| 22:21.55 | Thunder_Child | but that has nothing to do with the encryption |
| 22:21.55 | Kraps | tortures Thunder_Child |
| 22:22.02 | Adys | Only 8% of white American high-schoolers have a best friend of another race. (For blacks, itâs about 15%.) |
| 22:22.03 | Adys | The more diverse a school is, the less likely it is that kids will form cross-race friendships. |
| 22:22.03 | Adys | 75% of white parents never or almost never talk about race with their kids. |
| 22:22.03 | Adys | 97% of statistics not linking sources are pulled out of someone's ass. |
| 22:22.05 | Thunder_Child | there are was around that Kraps |
| 22:22.09 | Thunder_Child | ways* |
| 22:22.41 | Thunder_Child | 100% of Adys comments are retarded and ignorable |
| 22:22.49 | Kraps | you cant resist forever TC |
| 22:23.03 | DWSR | DJJeff: My data is sensitive enough that I don't want people being able to casually browse it. |
| 22:23.04 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: you dont have to resist, as a matter of fact, you can not |
| 22:23.13 | Thunder_Child | anyways, off to lunch. |
| 22:23.20 | Kraps | what? |
| 22:23.23 | DJJeff | 3 tools are great........... Process Explorer (to see whats running) Autoruns...... (too see what starts with your pc)........ TCPVIEW (a graphical netstat to see what TCP/UDP connections are being made) |
| 22:23.39 | DJJeff | all by sysinternals suite |
| 22:23.43 | DWSR | DJJeff: None of this data is sensitive enough to warrant tin-foil hat, but I would rather not have people that can find my harddrive full of 17k worth of pirated music files. |
| 22:23.50 | DWSR | DJJeff: TCPView is garbage. |
| 22:23.54 | DWSR | Wireshark is *much* better. |
| 22:24.10 | Kraps | "17k worth of pirated music files." hoy |
| 22:24.14 | Kraps | hot* |
| 22:24.20 | DJJeff | if your into packat sniffing |
| 22:24.21 | DJJeff | yes |
| 22:24.33 | Adys | Fuck |
| 22:24.37 | Adys | I hate sensationalism |
| 22:24.37 | Kraps | brb, contacting the RIAA |
| 22:24.39 | cbreak | http://www.truecrypt.org/ |
| 22:24.46 | DWSR | Kraps: Apparently, if I ever get busted, I owe the RIAA more money than the GDP of 80% of countries on the planet combined. |
| 22:24.51 | DWSR | cbreak: Yep. :) |
| 22:24.55 | Kraps | lawl |
| 22:24.59 | mitchnull | alternatively, use a proper OS... |
| 22:25.06 | DJJeff | the RIAA is just a myth |
| 22:25.10 | DWSR | mitch0: Proper OS doesn't factor into the equation. |
| 22:25.10 | cbreak | or if you have a mac: an encrypted disk image or file vault |
| 22:25.18 | cbreak | or if you have Linux: Countless things to chose from |
| 22:25.27 | DJJeff | linux is GOD! |
| 22:25.30 | DWSR | cbreak: Truecrypt being multi-platform makes it the best solution. :) |
| 22:25.38 | cbreak | I didn't like the mac version |
| 22:25.44 | DWSR | I can use portable file containers to take stuff to my friend's place. |
| 22:25.45 | cbreak | but I didn't try it since their first release |
| 22:25.49 | cbreak | so not sure if they improved |
| 22:25.55 | DWSR | cbreak: Yeah, but Mac is garbage, so heh. |
| 22:26.03 | cbreak | Macs are the best computers there is |
| 22:26.12 | cbreak | so everything else is worse than garbage? :( |
| 22:26.21 | DWSR | cbreak: Grammar fail. |
| 22:26.23 | cbreak | maybe you just have very good garbage where you live :) |
| 22:26.36 | Kraps | god is infinite, linux is not |
| 22:26.47 | cbreak | god can't be infinite |
| 22:26.54 | DWSR | cbreak: A grammar fail invalidates your statement. |
| 22:27.00 | DWSR | cbreak: Sure he can. |
| 22:27.00 | cbreak | why? |
| 22:27.09 | DWSR | cbreak: Because your statement is full of fail. |
| 22:27.14 | cbreak | why? |
| 22:27.20 | DWSR | because you had a grammar fail? |
| 22:27.25 | Adys | Im a mac! |
| 22:27.28 | Adys | And I'm a PC! |
| 22:27.32 | cbreak | why? |
| 22:27.36 | Adys | And we're both douchebags! |
| 22:27.50 | DWSR | cbreak: because |
| 22:28.48 | DWSR | Can someone please explain to me why the fuck Mac OS chose to have their line terminators as CR? |
| 22:28.53 | cbreak | your thought patterns seem to be encodable in a statemachine with 3 states and less than 6 transitions |
| 22:29.08 | cbreak | DWSR: it doesn't |
| 22:29.17 | cbreak | Mac OS usually uses LF |
| 22:29.21 | cbreak | but it can use CRLF |
| 22:29.23 | cbreak | or CR |
| 22:29.33 | DWSR | Linux is LF, Windows is CRLF, MacOS is/was CR. |
| 22:29.35 | cbreak | or depending on the editor, the new unicode line ending |
| 22:29.46 | cbreak | DWSR: where do you live? Stone Age? |
| 22:29.52 | Kraps | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-svchostexe-and-why-is-it-running/ |
| 22:30.19 | DJJeff | MAC: "Hi I'm A MAC" / PC: "I'm A PC" / LINUX: "Hi... I'm Linux" / MAC&PC: "How Long Have You Been Here?" |
| 22:30.24 | NightHawkTheSane | mac os prior to OS X used CR i believe. |
| 22:30.34 | DWSR | cbreak: Mac OS 9 and below had CR. |
| 22:30.35 | NightHawkTheSane | But that was what.. 10 years ago? |
| 22:30.45 | cbreak | DWSR: as one of many possibilities... |
| 22:30.58 | cbreak | it's not the OS that dictates how an editor ends it's lines. |
| 22:31.09 | cbreak | well... maybe Windows does |
| 22:31.14 | cbreak | but sane Operating Systems don't |
| 22:31.27 | DWSR | cbreak: No, it doesn't. You can encode a file using any of the standard line terms. |
| 22:31.31 | cbreak | (and I know for sure that there are some programs on windows that manage LF without problem) |
| 22:31.33 | DWSR | cbreak: It's just that everything defaults to CRLF. |
| 22:31.39 | Kraps | cool, process explorer shows what each svchost is running |
| 22:31.50 | DJJeff | yes |
| 22:31.52 | DJJeff | it does |
| 22:31.54 | DJJeff | :) |
| 22:32.22 | DJJeff | hover over it tells you what services are running |
| 22:32.27 | DJJeff | for each one you hover over |
| 22:32.29 | DWSR | Dagmar: ping |
| 22:32.58 | DJJeff | you can even goto the properties and stop services from process explorer |
| 22:33.47 | Kraps | nice |
| 22:33.47 | Lunessa | Phone. Will. Not. Stop. Ringing. |
| 22:34.59 | NightHawkTheSane | so... i'm going to blow up fedex headquarters, who's with me! |
| 22:35.01 | cbreak | Lunessa: does it come with a cable? If so, unplug it. If not, remove power supply. |
| 22:35.38 | DJJeff | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4363771664_1d65038490_o.png |
| 22:35.45 | DJJeff | ^^ -- pic of that in action |
| 22:36.26 | Dagmar | yum http://epicwinftw.com/2010/02/11/epic-win-photos-bentoshock/ |
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| 22:36.48 | Fisker | i fu u |
| 22:37.51 | Adys | nevcairiel, Cide, you around? |
| 22:37.55 | Adys | How do I raise a silent exception? |
| 22:38.01 | nevcairiel | silent exception? |
| 22:38.06 | Adys | eg if I want to do something like this |
| 22:38.15 | Adys | raise checkValue(myval) |
| 22:38.42 | Adys | checkValue returns dynamically an exception depending on the value, and if the value is "valid" it returns a silent exception |
| 22:39.09 | Adys | i guess i could do try: checkValue(myVal); except noError |
| 22:39.12 | Adys | but thats ugly:p |
| 22:39.54 | cbreak | silent exception? |
| 22:40.58 | Adys | an exception that doesnt error |
| 22:41.01 | Adys | that catches itself |
| 22:41.02 | Adys | whatever |
| 22:41.38 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5473099/diablo-iiis-female-barbarian-is-rather-well+armored |
| 22:41.42 | cbreak | sounds... not very useful |
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| 22:42.29 | mitchnull | adys: just not throw/raise from checkValue if all is well? |
| 22:43.09 | nevcairiel | yeah, just call checkValue and raise in there if something is wrong |
| 22:43.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:43.14 | Adys | meh :p |
| 22:43.23 | Adys | Im sure there IS a way to make an exception silent though |
| 22:43.26 | Adys | so im curious |
| 22:43.38 | nevcairiel | I've never heard of it in any language |
| 22:44.00 | mitchnull | a silent exception is one that doesn't get raised :P |
| 22:44.09 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 22:44.13 | cbreak | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/02/16/1656200/Aussie-Attorney-General-Says-Gamers-Are-Scarier-Than-Biker-Gangs |
| 22:44.15 | Adys | no |
| 22:44.16 | Adys | like warnings |
| 22:44.30 | cbreak | exceptions break out of normal control flow |
| 22:44.42 | cbreak | if you want to continue normally, do NOT use them |
| 22:45.13 | cbreak | exceptions are not there to tell you that there's an error somewhere, they are there to allow a program to continue despite something bad happening. |
| 22:45.47 | cbreak | depending on the severity, you might decide to continue to run anyway, or to terminate gracefully |
| 22:46.50 | cbreak | but everything that would have happened in the normal control flow between the point where you caught it and where it was thrown did not happen. |
| 22:47.05 | cbreak | there's no way to go back there (at least not in C++ or Lua error models) |
| 22:47.15 | cbreak | so you can't just continue normally |
| 22:51.33 | Kraps | hitler gets angry that he cant make a video of him getting angry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CyzgOupqLg&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:52.33 | Cairenn | godwin |
| 22:52.50 | durcyn | godwin never saw Untergang. |
| 22:53.36 | Ackis | I'm so mad I just twitted about something! |
| 22:53.43 | Ackis | fuck you @chrysler |
| 22:54.30 | Kraps | Ackis: link or gtfo |
| 22:54.33 | cbreak | you are mad you used a crappy and limited service for one-to-many communication? |
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| 22:55.47 | Kraps | this is great http://www.bitpit.be/ |
| 22:56.18 | ronghail | tourguide removed eh? |
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| 22:57.47 | Dagmar | Yep. Gone forever. |
| 22:57.57 | Ackis | mourn it |
| 22:58.18 | ronghail | got my elders just in time I guess |
| 22:58.37 | DWSR | What's this about TourGuide? |
| 22:58.59 | ronghail | taken down sometime in the last couple days apparently |
| 22:59.06 | DWSR | why? |
| 22:59.21 | ronghail | well that is why I came here, doesn't tekkub hang out here? |
| 22:59.28 | DWSR | yes]\ |
| 22:59.45 | Dagmar | Aliens took off with him |
| 23:00.07 | DWSR | Dagmar: LISTEN to it. |
| 23:00.12 | Dagmar | Last we heard, he was almost to Tijuana |
| 23:00.12 | DWSR | Jesus titty fuck. |
| 23:00.46 | Cairenn | ~seen tekkub |
| 23:00.48 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowuidev (4h 44m 50s) #wowace (4h 44m 50s) #wowwiki (4h 44m 50s), last said: 'Holand bitched'. |
| 23:01.02 | Ackis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7674-TourGuide.html |
| 23:01.03 | Cairenn | he was here 4 hrs ago |
| 23:01.22 | Lunessa | His code, his rights. :) |
| 23:01.27 | DWSR | Kraps: Link win |
| 23:02.15 | Dagmar | Illiteracy is it's own punishment, perhaps. |
| 23:02.30 | ronghail | its |
| 23:02.49 | Dagmar | Then why can't you figure out what the word "temporarily" means |
| 23:03.05 | ronghail | heh |
| 23:03.19 | Adys | Dagmar: Why does it matter? |
| 23:03.34 | Adys | for one, ronghail is right, "its" not "it's" |
| 23:03.44 | Dagmar | Adys: "<ronghail> tourguide removed eh?" |
| 23:03.50 | Adys | so? |
| 23:03.53 | Ackis | 16:01Ackishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7674-TourGuide.html |
| 23:03.58 | Ackis | I've answered the question! |
| 23:03.59 | Adys | is it "<ronghail> tourguide permanently removed eh?" |
| 23:04.02 | Dagmar | adys: For another, I don't really give a damn whether or not you're acting as a spellchecker or not |
| 23:04.09 | Ackis | U.S.Eh! |
| 23:04.13 | Ackis | Cairenn: ^ |
| 23:04.22 | Adys | Dagmar: you are acting as a total douche to him |
| 23:04.26 | Dagmar | I fail to see anything exciting or interesting in tekkub yanking it |
| 23:04.35 | Adys | I'm curious too |
| 23:04.36 | Dagmar | No, I'm being slightly sarcastic. |
| 23:04.41 | Dagmar | You're acting a total douche. |
| 23:04.47 | Ackis | you're both douches! |
| 23:04.48 | DWSR | You are acting like. |
| 23:04.54 | DWSR | English fail, both of you. |
| 23:05.01 | Dagmar | <-- still not caring. |
| 23:05.02 | Ackis | nein! |
| 23:05.09 | Adys | and it's none of your business to decide what is and isn't "interesting" for other ppl |
| 23:05.17 | Cairenn | I don't have time for this right now guys, either behave the way you are expected to behave in here, or take a vacation |
| 23:05.21 | Cairenn | poofs again |
| 23:05.27 | Dagmar | Adys: I didn't notice myself giving anyone marching orders |
| 23:05.28 | Ackis | coughs on the poof smoke. |
| 23:05.28 | DWSR | Hitler makes a youtube video about a youtube video about hilter not being able to make a youtube video. |
| 23:06.09 | DWSR | Can you say meta? |
| 23:06.49 | Adys | DWSR: btw, "acting as" is valid |
| 23:06.57 | Fisker | epic godwin? |
| 23:06.59 | DWSR | Adys: No, it's not. |
| 23:07.08 | Adys | if anything, the fail was "to" instead of "towards" |
| 23:07.13 | Fisker | binds DWSR to his right mousebutton |
| 23:07.21 | DWSR | dodges. |
| 23:07.26 | *** join/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 23:07.31 | Ackis | holy shit guys |
| 23:07.35 | Ackis | tourguide has been removed |
| 23:07.41 | DWSR | Adys: "Acting a" is a fail. |
| 23:08.04 | Adys | Eh? |
| 23:08.24 | Ackis | Adys: did you know tourguide was removed per authors request? |
| 23:08.29 | Adys | Acting as a business? Acting as a witness? |
| 23:08.34 | Adys | never heard of those two? |
| 23:08.40 | pompy | ~lart Ackis |
| 23:08.40 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Ackis's throat until Ackis puts on 150lbs |
| 23:08.55 | ronghail | I already have it but people are asking about it on a multiboxing channel. just through I would ask. didn't mean to start wwIII |
| 23:09.07 | Ackis | ronghail: don't worry, you didn't |
| 23:09.11 | DWSR | Adys: Acting as a is not acting a |
| 23:09.13 | Dagmar | Some folks have had too much caffiene today, no biggue |
| 23:09.14 | Jerub | yeah, I found that yesterday when i wanted to install tourguide. |
| 23:09.15 | Adys | ronghail: we do this regularly |
| 23:09.15 | Ackis | ronghail: did you know tourguide was removed? |
| 23:09.18 | DWSR | Adys: You put a word inbetween those. |
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| 23:09.22 | ronghail | heh |
| 23:09.32 | DWSR | You're acting as a douche is still not entirely grammatically correct. |
| 23:09.37 | Adys | DWSR: "Acting as a business", "Acting as a douche" |
| 23:09.45 | Adys | one is correct, so is the other |
| 23:09.47 | DWSR | Adys: The original sentence was "Acting a douche" |
| 23:09.48 | Dagmar | <-- still not giving a damn |
| 23:09.51 | Ackis | Adys: isn't it acting like a douche? |
| 23:09.52 | Adys | no it wasn't... |
| 23:10.13 | DWSR | <Dagmar>You're acting a total douche. |
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| 23:10.22 | DWSR | Also, acting as is not valid in that context. |
| 23:10.42 | Adys | Er |
| 23:10.43 | DWSR | Acting as a business <NEED SOME MORE TEXT ON THIS SIDE HERE> |
| 23:10.49 | Adys | that's what he said |
| 23:10.51 | Adys | not what I said |
| 23:10.52 | Adys | [01:04:22] <Adys> Dagmar: you are acting as a total douche to him |
| 23:10.53 | DWSR | Acting as a business is a sentence fragment. |
| 23:11.06 | DWSR | If you replace as with like, it works. |
| 23:11.24 | Adys | Acting as a business and acting like a business is totally different |
| 23:11.33 | Adys | replace business by police officer and youll see what i mean |
| 23:11.48 | kd3 | zomg tourgide removed? gasp |
| 23:11.52 | kd3 | sounds the panic alarm |
| 23:11.59 | DWSR | Adys: You change the meaning of the sentence when you replace as with like. Your usage is incorrect. |
| 23:12.00 | Ackis | kd3: I know right! |
| 23:12.00 | Adys | it's on cooldown kd3 |
| 23:12.02 | kd3 | panic! hysteria! |
| 23:12.04 | DWSR | You're acting as a douche. |
| 23:12.07 | DWSR | This is not correct. |
| 23:12.18 | Adys | What? |
| 23:12.19 | kd3 | goes back to fixing his music collection |
| 23:12.56 | Ackis | pings kd3 to let him know that tourguide has been removed. |
| 23:13.07 | Adys | "Acting as a <name>" -> Executing actions that are exclusive to a <name>" |
| 23:13.10 | kd3 | zomg tourgide removed? gasp |
| 23:13.12 | DWSR | Adys: No. |
| 23:13.14 | kd3 | sounds the panic alarm |
| 23:13.20 | Ackis | Cairenn: Canada got a gold? |
| 23:13.26 | DWSR | Adys: Acting as a <noun> means you are functioning in the capacity of a noun. |
| 23:13.48 | DWSR | Acting as a police officer means that you are filling the role of police officer. |
| 23:13.52 | Adys | which is what I said, add synonyms to your dictionary plx |
| 23:14.02 | DWSR | Adys: No, it's not. There's a difference. |
| 23:14.07 | DWSR | Acting as and acting like are *not* the same. |
| 23:14.13 | Adys | AND |
| 23:14.16 | Dagmar | It's not like tek's a psycho or osmething |
| 23:14.16 | Adys | for what it's worth |
| 23:14.24 | Shadowed | he is |
| 23:14.24 | Jerub | tekkub was last active on irc under 2 hours ago. |
| 23:14.26 | Shadowed | he's pretty crazy |
| 23:14.28 | Dagmar | I'm sure he'll pop up and explain what he's up to rather soon |
| 23:14.29 | Adys | Acting as a douche is a perfectly valid insult |
| 23:14.40 | DWSR | Adys: It makes no sense grammatically. =\ |
| 23:14.45 | Jerub | and i did kinda ask him about it 12 hours ago :) |
| 23:14.50 | DWSR | So you're filling the role of a douche? |
| 23:15.05 | Adys | DWSR: pretty much, you should know what it's like, too |
| 23:15.12 | Ackis | Jerub: did you know that tourguide was removed? |
| 23:15.17 | Jerub | Ackis: yes. |
| 23:15.21 | Ackis | ok |
| 23:15.21 | Adys | Ackis this got unfunny a long time ago |
| 23:15.32 | DWSR | Jerub: Why'd he remove it? |
| 23:15.33 | Shadowed | Adys |
| 23:15.36 | Shadowed | did you know tourguide was removed |
| 23:15.39 | Ackis | Adys: it's more funny than your grammar naziing stuff :P |
| 23:15.40 | Adys | Sup sweetie |
| 23:15.40 | Jerub | I don't know! he didn't respond! |
| 23:15.43 | Ackis | haha |
| 23:15.44 | Adys | No i didnt tell me more about it |
| 23:15.46 | Ackis | ~Shadowed++ |
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| 23:15.59 | Adys | Ackis: Science isn't always funny, we do it because it's right |
| 23:16.16 | Dagmar | My best guess, involving exactly zero effort and research, is speculation that he removed it from the sites to dodge the bad karma from people installing it and the LunarFestival tourguide module, and then spending the next 14 hours riding all over Azeroth cursing and swearing at how many @#$@#$ elders there are. |
| 23:16.21 | Ackis | I wouldn't consider grammar science, it's more an art form |
| 23:16.24 | Adys | And I was definitely not the one starting with grammar nazism |
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| 23:16.50 | DWSR | Dagmar: What? there aren't that many. |
| 23:16.55 | ronghail | hmm. well I thought it was great for the elders thing. can't imagine finding 75 guys without it |
| 23:17.00 | Shadowed | grammar is more an art form of who is a more stubborn asshole |
| 23:17.01 | Dagmar | DWSR: Dude there's waaaay many of them |
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| 23:17.14 | Adys | Shadowed: whom* |
| 23:17.15 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Elders |
| 23:17.17 | kd3 | gasps |
| 23:17.19 | Shadowed | Adys: nope |
| 23:17.20 | Shadowed | who |
| 23:17.22 | Shadowed | W H O |
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| 23:17.26 | Adys | I'm just being a dick |
| 23:17.26 | DWSR | Dagmar: Not really. |
| 23:17.27 | Dagmar | I spent several hours this weekend riding all over the butt end of Azeroth tracking down old people who'll gimme a magic nickel. |
| 23:17.36 | DWSR | Dagmar: You can do it in under 6 hours. |
| 23:17.45 | Dagmar | I don't really see how |
| 23:17.49 | Shadowed | go druid |
| 23:17.54 | DWSR | Or be level 80. |
| 23:18.03 | Adys | ive been doing the elders on a lvl 5 |
| 23:18.05 | DWSR | Only ones that take any time at all are the ones that are in the LK dungeons, which you can solo. |
| 23:18.10 | Dagmar | Either way, that achievement is pretty damn close to the Explorer achievement |
| 23:18.21 | Adys | no it's not |
| 23:18.24 | DWSR | No it's not. |
| 23:18.24 | Dagmar | Except they *don't reset your partial progress* on getting the Explorer title |
| 23:18.40 | Adys | I truly cannot believe anyone who didn't have at least 90% of the explorer when they logged in |
| 23:18.40 | Dagmar | I was a bit miffed to find that I had credit for exactly ZERO elders |
| 23:18.42 | Adys | hell |
| 23:19.05 | DWSR | Adys: You get like 70% exploration just by leveling via quests.\ |
| 23:19.06 | Adys | I saw some day-1 vanilla players getting "Explore Dun Morogh" a few weeks after 3.0 |
| 23:19.19 | Adys | I mean man |
| 23:19.22 | Adys | don't you guys have ocd? |
| 23:19.23 | Lunessa | You know, I'm a stickler for grammar much of the time, and I'll well educated. And I still get "i before e" "who and whom" and several other tricky, fiddly bits wrong on occasion. |
| 23:19.24 | Dagmar | I wrapped up the final areas needed for the Explorer title in less time than it's taken me to get 48% of the way through tracking all the elders down |
| 23:19.28 | Adys | and if you don't why are you doing achievements |
| 23:19.59 | DWSR | Dagmar: You're definitely doing it wrong. |
| 23:19.59 | Dagmar | I wouldn't much care were it not for the mystery reset |
| 23:20.17 | Jerub | Dagmar: but.. most of the elders are in places you can fly to. |
| 23:20.24 | Dagmar | Really. |
| 23:20.27 | Adys | you can fly in azeroth?:p |
| 23:20.32 | Dagmar | Northrend maybe, not Azeroth |
| 23:20.35 | Jerub | Adys: flight points. |
| 23:20.42 | Adys | Yeha well not the felwood guy |
| 23:20.50 | Adys | as a lvl 5 he took me like 1 hour |
| 23:20.51 | Jerub | okay, sure, there are those that are missing |
| 23:20.54 | DWSR | Adys: http://wowi.pastey.net/133103 <-- |
| 23:20.57 | Shadowed | Lunessa: "and I'll well educated" ? :P |
| 23:21.00 | Dagmar | Notably few of the guys are anywhere near a flight point |
| 23:21.18 | DWSR | Dagmar: A bunch of them are pretty close. |
| 23:21.28 | Adys | DWSR: So? |
| 23:21.31 | DWSR | Adys: You fail. |
| 23:21.33 | DWSR | :) |
| 23:21.33 | Lunessa | Shadowed: And I'm the world's worst typist. And I write while distracted by work. /shame |
| 23:21.35 | Adys | both are correct |
| 23:21.38 | Shadowed | :P |
| 23:21.41 | Dagmar | DWSR: Man so far it's been useful to take a flight all of once, and that was Ungoro to Silithus |
| 23:22.03 | DWSR | Adys: Correctness depends on the context. In that context, your usage of acting as is incorrect. It changes the meaning of the sentence to something that does not make sense in the context. |
| 23:22.20 | DWSR | Adys: While I can't deny that "acting as a <noun>" *is* grammatically correct in *some* context, it's not in *that* context. |
| 23:22.24 | Lunessa | Shadowed: I'll forgive you for pointing it out, and next time at BlizzCon I will kick you in your freakishly large shins and then buy you a beer. |
| 23:22.34 | Adys | DWSR: you ain't no fucking deciding what to tell me that ain't right or wrong grammar you won't |
| 23:22.39 | Shadowed | you could try Lunessa |
| 23:22.42 | Shadowed | but you'd get arrested |
| 23:22.45 | Shadowed | Which could be amusing |
| 23:22.50 | DWSR | Adys: :) |
| 23:22.50 | Lunessa | Aren't you legal yet? |
| 23:22.53 | Dagmar | I didn't see nothin'. |
| 23:22.54 | Shadowed | no :p |
| 23:22.57 | Shadowed | still another year or so |
| 23:23.01 | Adys | DWSR: Point still stands, it's grammatically correct |
| 23:23.03 | Lunessa | Damn it. You're still freakishly tall. |
| 23:23.09 | Adys | and it has a different meaning |
| 23:23.10 | Shadowed | did I meet you at Blizzcon? |
| 23:23.14 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 23:23.18 | Lunessa | At the dinner. |
| 23:23.20 | Adys | Shadowed: why didn't I meet you at blizzcon? |
| 23:23.21 | Shadowed | hmm I don't remember this |
| 23:23.29 | Shadowed | I dunno, did you go to the WoWI dinner? |
| 23:23.43 | Shadowed | now I have to go try and track down a picture of you Lunessa |
| 23:23.54 | Adys | Shadowed: I have a few juicy ones for $5 each |
| 23:23.56 | Lunessa | At the end, I was the medium height bald guy with the goatee. |
| 23:24.12 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 23:24.15 | Lunessa | http://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/2224657032/ |
| 23:24.21 | Adys | why do i always read something completely different when someone writes "goatee" :( |
| 23:24.30 | Shadowed | Weird totally don't remember you |
| 23:24.37 | Jerub | this is how observant i am. healer was wielding a legendary mace, had the 'Kingslayer' title, and the reason i noticed there was something funny about him (and yes I'd done a cursory gearcheck with /inspect) was the bubble that his mace was giving when it procced. |
| 23:24.51 | Shadowed | Cairenn is the only person I can clearly remember from the WoWI dinner |
| 23:24.53 | Lunessa | Like I said, it was at the end and there were lots of very casual introductions. |
| 23:24.56 | Kraps | so why was tourguide taken? |
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| 23:25.10 | WobWork | Jerub: eh, I only do noncursory inspects if something goes wrong |
| 23:25.14 | Shadowed | but she also stands out so! |
| 23:25.29 | Adys | Shadowed: Was there drinking? this could mean something important you may or may not want to remember |
| 23:25.38 | Lunessa | He doesn't drink. Yet. |
| 23:25.48 | Shadowed | I don't drink period, it doesn't interest me :p |
| 23:25.59 | Adys | not that you'd remember |
| 23:25.59 | Adys | :P |
| 23:26.00 | Dagmar | waits for Adys to pounce on that. |
| 23:26.13 | Adys | you know Dagmar |
| 23:26.17 | Shadowed | but yea unless you were there at the WoWI dinner, I didn't meet anyone else besides BB people |
| 23:26.21 | WobWork | I know Dagmar! |
| 23:26.22 | Adys | I'm not the one who started with the "illiteracy" thing |
| 23:26.33 | WobWork | BB? |
| 23:26.36 | Kaelten | Shadowed: he was there |
| 23:26.41 | Adys | I'm not a native english speaker and have no interest to be a dick on other people |
| 23:26.44 | Shadowed | oh I remember Kaelten too |
| 23:26.48 | Dagmar | For pete's sake |
| 23:26.51 | Shadowed | cause he was like "Here have a free 4GB memory card" |
| 23:26.55 | Kaelten | :D |
| 23:26.58 | Dagmar | Let me be wholly explicit then |
| 23:27.00 | WobWork | You see, Lunessa |
| 23:27.05 | Dagmar | My carp was about _functional_ illiteracy |
| 23:27.08 | WobWork | if you'd given out free gifts, you'd be more memorable =P |
| 23:27.12 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 23:27.14 | Dagmar | Anyone using IRC is probably *not* entirely illiterate. |
| 23:27.26 | Lunessa | Nah, I was there to soak in free swag. |
| 23:27.26 | Dagmar | It kinda makes figuring out the whole "computer" thing really bitchy. |
| 23:27.33 | WobWork | Dagmar: =( You've clearly been lucky in your ventures =P |
| 23:27.45 | Ackis | gives WobWork a STI |
| 23:27.45 | Dagmar | There are *tons* of people who simply *don't* read, which is also a form of illiteracy. |
| 23:27.57 | Lunessa | Kaelten gave me one of those things too. I'm using it for ReadyBoost on my Windows 7 box. |
| 23:28.02 | WobWork | Ackis: It's more of a TTI, Textually Tranmitted Infection |
| 23:28.21 | Ackis | what? Kaelten was giving out stuff at blizzcon? |
| 23:28.22 | WobWork | Ackis: and thanks! I'll frame it and put it on the wall |
| 23:28.43 | Kaelten | Ackis: ya |
| 23:28.48 | Jerub | 09:27 < Dagmar> Anyone using IRC is probably *not* entirely illiterate. |
| 23:28.50 | Shadowed | He gave out 4 GB Curse cards with V4 client |
| 23:28.56 | Lunessa | Well, considering I bought my ticket from him, and he gave me a 4gb flash stick... yeah |
| 23:28.59 | Jerub | Dagmar: Man. *man*. do you even USE irc? |
| 23:29.01 | Shadowed | good trade |
| 23:29.06 | WobWork | Jerub: inorite? |
| 23:29.18 | Ackis | he gave me a monkey |
| 23:29.18 | Jerub | WobWork: srsly. |
| 23:29.19 | Dagmar | Jerub: I remember when Comic Chat came out. Didn't take us long to find an exploit to crash it. |
| 23:29.21 | Shadowed | the t-shirts were a nice touch |
| 23:29.21 | Adys | to be fair freenode is rather "safe" |
| 23:29.22 | Ackis | and some drooling toys |
| 23:29.23 | Ackis | :D |
| 23:29.26 | WobWork | Lunessa: You should have come with free pie |
| 23:29.32 | Adys | compare it to shitholes like quakenet |
| 23:29.38 | WobWork | I bet everyone would have remembered if you gave out pie |
| 23:29.40 | Ackis | undernet! |
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| 23:29.56 | Shadowed | That's what I should do this year |
| 23:30.01 | WobWork | offer pie? |
| 23:30.03 | Shadowed | "HELLO WOULD YOU LIKE SOME STRANGER PIE" |
| 23:30.09 | Ackis | I will *not* be going to blizzcon this year |
| 23:30.14 | Dagmar | "Undernet: Where the slow witted go to meet other slow witted people" |
| 23:30.15 | WobWork | "IS IT MADE FROM REAL STRANGER?" |
| 23:30.17 | Shadowed | fail Ackis |
| 23:30.21 | Kraps | hey, undernet has #bookz! |
| 23:30.25 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 23:30.25 | Jerub | Dagmar: I don't remember when Comic Chat came out, but I'd be an irc user for like 4 years at that point.. |
| 23:30.31 | Ackis | Shadowed: it costs too much money and I don't play wow |
| 23:30.37 | Shadowed | you don't go for blizzcon to be fair |
| 23:30.39 | WobWork | #bookz is the -only- reason I log into undernet =P |
| 23:30.48 | Shadowed | sucks if you're east coast thought |
| 23:30.48 | Adys | read #boobs |
| 23:30.50 | Dagmar | (#0FuKD1s) You don't remmeber people talking like this? |
| 23:30.50 | Jerub | WobWork: mmmbookz. |
| 23:31.07 | Kaelten | I just hope the dates don't try to conflict with the weddings I'm spost to go to |
| 23:31.21 | WobWork | Dagmar: =\ I was thinking "What's D-1?" |
| 23:31.29 | Ackis | don't worry, mine isn't til 2012 Kaelten |
| 23:31.36 | WobWork | Kaelten: convince the happy couple to get married at Blizzcon |
| 23:31.49 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 23:31.56 | DWSR | Then we all have an excuse to go |
| 23:31.59 | Kaelten | Ackis: got two other ones this year |
| 23:32.07 | Dagmar | wobwork: The really bad thing Comic Chat did was put it's markup for the avatar crap right in the middle of text lines. Not even an attempt at making up a new CTCP or using a server-local channel instance\ |
| 23:32.10 | *** part/#wowuidev Shadowed (~Shadowed@li53-10.members.linode.com) |
| 23:32.11 | Ackis | Kaelten: I know, one in scottland iirc? |
| 23:32.12 | Kaelten | WobWork: lol |
| 23:32.15 | Kaelten | Ackis: ya |
| 23:32.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (~Shadowed@li53-10.members.linode.com) |
| 23:32.20 | Shadowed | I LOVE COLLOQUY |
| 23:32.37 | DWSR | Isn't Colloquy a Mac IRC client? |
| 23:32.43 | Shadowed | yes |
| 23:32.49 | DWSR | rofls |
| 23:33.12 | Kaelten | DWSR: and it's a pretty good one too |
| 23:33.18 | Ackis | so that's your issue then, you're using a mac |
| 23:33.19 | DWSR | Kaelten: Tell that to Shadowed. |
| 23:33.21 | Shadowed | it's pretty bad Kaelten :p |
| 23:33.25 | Kaelten | both it and Linkinus are better than anything I can find on windows. |
| 23:33.28 | Ackis | Shadowed: get a PC |
| 23:33.29 | Thrae | xqo: I wouldn't recommend TinyTip. It sucks. |
| 23:33.33 | Shadowed | PC laptops are evil |
| 23:33.35 | Kaelten | Shadowed: it's pretty good too though |
| 23:33.41 | Jerub | irssi is the only irc client worth using imho |
| 23:33.45 | Shadowed | every time I close a window, it crashes |
| 23:33.46 | Kaelten | Shadowed: not saying it doesn't have issues ;) |
| 23:33.50 | DWSR | kvirc is pretty good. |
| 23:33.50 | Shadowed | it's awesome |
| 23:34.01 | Kaelten | Shadowed: try linkinus |
| 23:34.07 | Lunessa | WobWork: Nah, just tried to get CKK wasted for his Bday. |
| 23:34.09 | DWSR | linkinus is terrible. >.< |
| 23:34.16 | Shadowed | Linkinus wasn't very good, but I don't remember why |
| 23:34.23 | Kraps | chatzilla bitches |
| 23:34.30 | Shadowed | I'm super picky on IRC clients |
| 23:34.41 | Kaelten | they recently came out with linkinus2 |
| 23:34.47 | Shadowed | how recently? |
| 23:34.51 | DWSR | Shadowed: Darwinports + irssi or try kvirc (I think it's on Mac). |
| 23:34.52 | Kaelten | last few months |
| 23:34.56 | Kaelten | I think |
| 23:35.03 | Kaelten | my perception of time may be fucked though |
| 23:35.04 | Shadowed | yea pretty sure Linkinus 2 was what I tried |
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| 23:35.40 | Kaelten | k |
| 23:35.45 | Arrowmaster | ill just stick with xchat until i decide to write my own client |
| 23:35.47 | Kraps | mmmm corn |
| 23:35.57 | Kaelten | Shadowed: IRC clients are really in a shitty state of affairs though |
| 23:36.01 | Shadowed | they are |
| 23:36.03 | Kraps | doesnt share |
| 23:36.05 | Kaelten | I've yet to find a 'good one' |
| 23:36.08 | Shadowed | even mIRC is bad, but it's better than everything else |
| 23:36.09 | Shadowed | yup |
| 23:36.12 | Kaelten | only 'better than the others' |
| 23:36.15 | Lunessa | Colloquy - pretty good for what I need. |
| 23:36.26 | Kaelten | It's kinda like politics |
| 23:36.26 | Shadowed | I kind of want to write one |
| 23:36.36 | Kaelten | ya me too... |
| 23:36.41 | Kaelten | but damn if the protocol isn't shitty too |
| 23:37.44 | Shadowed | sadly |
| 23:37.46 | *** part/#wowuidev Kaelten (~Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
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| 23:37.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 23:38.02 | Shadowed | why someone would create an IRC client based on webkit I don't know |
| 23:38.12 | Arrowmaster | speaking of Comic Chat, i got in trouble for kick banning a user of it from a major network channel right after they joined |
| 23:38.14 | Kaelten | in a way it makes a lot of sense |
| 23:38.19 | Shadowed | it's too laggy |
| 23:38.39 | Kaelten | it depends on the implementation most likely |
| 23:38.45 | Shadowed | That might just be because they aren't made well. But Linkinus and Colloquy both have lag issues on buffer |
| 23:38.50 | Lunessa | Shadowed: IRC plugin for Safari or Chrome? |
| 23:39.00 | Shadowed | like mIRC at least can handle a bajillion line buffer, but Colloquy/Linkinus usually lag horribly after ~700 |
| 23:39.09 | Kaelten | ya |
| 23:39.18 | Kaelten | and searching history is painful |
| 23:39.21 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: you know how EA/2ksports always shut down their servers for xbox games? How hard would it be to spoof the server (in your opinion).. redirect the traffic to a port on your PC, the app pretends to be the server, profit? |
| 23:39.25 | Shadowed | which I assume is because webkit isn't intended to show that much data |
| 23:39.37 | Shadowed | Lunessa: no it's how they display data |
| 23:40.07 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: you would likely need some info on the protocol first which would be hard to get if the servers are shutdown |
| 23:40.16 | Kaelten | Shadowed: well webkit is going to be great for anything that you'd see on a standard webpage |
| 23:40.29 | Shadowed | Standard webpages don't usually show as much data as an IRC client would thought |
| 23:40.39 | Kaelten | ya |
| 23:40.51 | Arrowmaster | mIRC used to lag up trying to draw all the quit and join messages from netsplits when i used it |
| 23:41.00 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:41.06 | Shadowed | oh yea, Linkinus had horrible lag on netsplits |
| 23:41.29 | Arrowmaster | imho irc clients should be multithreaded, if they arent they suck |
| 23:41.43 | Shadowed | they don't really need to be |
| 23:41.49 | Shadowed | I've never noticed performance issues with mIRC |
| 23:42.03 | Shadowed | That might also be due to the fact that my desktop is far better than my mac |
| 23:42.47 | Fisker | open your eyes Kaelten |
| 23:43.10 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 23:43.43 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: who did you get in trouble with? |
| 23:43.58 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Ggcf28w4A |
| 23:44.19 | Kaelten | Shadowed: in most things I don't have an issue with linkinus, there's just a lot of small polish things that are annoying |
| 23:44.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Movix (~Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 23:44.24 | Kaelten | and the history |
| 23:44.26 | Kraps | is there a way to sort items by rarity in bagnon? |
| 23:44.31 | Shadowed | yea that's probably what drove me crazy |
| 23:44.36 | Shadowed | It's always the little things that drive me nuts |
| 23:44.37 | Kaelten | it needs to be redone somehow |
| 23:44.48 | Tuller | bagnon does not sort :P |
| 23:44.57 | Kraps | fail |
| 23:45.10 | Tuller | scope win :P |
| 23:45.14 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: the ircops |
| 23:45.28 | Arrowmaster | aka my bosses |
| 23:46.15 | Kaelten | Shadowed: what I can say about using webkit for an irc client is the built in limitations wrt the scripting bridge is annoying |
| 23:46.19 | Kaelten | it's _very_ flaky |
| 23:46.33 | Shadowed | It's just a lazy way of getting customizability into your UI imo |
| 23:46.37 | Adys | Kraps: the whole point of bagnon is it doesn't have a bunch of features you dont need :P |
| 23:46.39 | Kaelten | very lazy |
| 23:46.45 | Kaelten | also elegant to some degree |
| 23:46.48 | Shadowed | It works quite well for letting you script it to do whatever, but it's not meant to be used that way |
| 23:47.20 | Lunessa | Kraps: Something like BankSort or Mr Plow |
| 23:47.22 | Adys | Kraps: you can filter by rarity though, just type "rare" |
| 23:47.26 | Kraps | Adys: if its gonna dump everything in one area I NEED THEM SORTED |
| 23:47.28 | Lunessa | Or get Combuctor. |
| 23:48.55 | Shadowed | Kaelten: I find that most clients either, don't do highlighting very well or they do history terribly |
| 23:49.02 | Shadowed | Which is quite weird, because those are the two main things |
| 23:49.16 | Adys | xchat does both just fine |
| 23:49.24 | Kraps | bagnon is bad and it should feel bad |
| 23:49.25 | Shadowed | xChat has some weird UI quirks if I recall |
| 23:49.37 | Adys | xchat is gtk, of course it has UI quirks |
| 23:49.37 | Adys | :P |
| 23:49.43 | Adys | Kraps: bagnon is not bad |
| 23:49.46 | Adys | it's just not for you |
| 23:50.38 | Lunessa | baganon is love. It has only what I need and none of what I don't. |
| 23:50.51 | Adys | idd |
| 23:51.39 | Kraps | like, i want to find all the gray items quickly, how would i do that? |
| 23:51.49 | Adys | hit the filter and type poor |
| 23:52.42 | Tuller | q:0 |
| 23:52.44 | Kraps | i typed poor, rare, and epic, nothing highlights |
| 23:52.55 | Adys | eh |
| 23:52.56 | Tuller | q:poor |
| 23:52.57 | Adys | it works fine here |
| 23:53.11 | Adys | but I dunno Im using a very old version of bagnon |
| 23:53.53 | Adys | Tuller: do you ever update the googlecode svn? |
| 23:54.06 | Tuller | yes |
| 23:54.20 | Tuller | but bagnon is not updated, bagnon2 is :P |
| 23:54.24 | Adys | ah. |
| 23:54.48 | Kraps | no offense Tuller |
| 23:54.51 | Adys | whats different? |
| 23:54.52 | Kraps | :) |
| 23:55.00 | Adys | between bagnon and bagnon2 |
| 23:56.19 | Kaelten | well i'm off to cook dinner |
| 23:56.22 | Tuller | more bloat :P |
| 23:56.30 | Adys | k ill just stick to bagnon |
| 23:57.40 | Adys | honestly |
| 23:57.45 | Kraps | Tuller: any idea why searching by rarity doesnt work for me? |
| 23:58.01 | Adys | Kraps: did you try his q:0 thing? |
| 23:58.02 | Tuller | does q:0 or q:uncommon work? |
| 23:58.24 | Adys | also, i dont understand what the deal is with those search filters |
| 23:58.40 | Kraps | ah yes thanks :) |
| 23:58.54 | Adys | theres no use case i can think of that requires advanced syntax like OR and ANDs |
| 23:59.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (~Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.04 | Adys | ! is nice |
| 23:59.06 | harl | Adys würfelt eine 44 |
| 23:59.06 | Adys | but thats about it |
| 23:59.13 | Tuller | q:epic&weapon |
| 23:59.15 | Adys | ~harl-- |
| 23:59.52 | Tuller | bagnon and combuctor are meant to share the same code, over time |
| 23:59.53 | harl | Adys: *woof* |
