| 00:00.33 | durcyn | also, i'm keeping logs of this as well. none of you will ever be running for congress. |
| 00:00.49 | NightHawkTheSane | logs irc as well, but is way too lazy to blackmail anyone |
| 00:01.10 | Kraps | lol |
| 00:01.11 | WobWork | >8<>8<>8<>8<>8<>8< Spider Pride!! >8<>8<>8<>8<>8<>8< |
| 00:01.49 | Kraps | old WobWork |
| 00:02.45 | Lunessa | durcyn: Yeah, public office + my name should only be in one or two phrases ever; "Lunessa will never be elected to public office." or "Lunessa will never run for public office." |
| 00:02.55 | WobWork | Kraps: who claimed it was new? |
| 00:03.05 | WobWork | It was in response to cbreak |
| 00:03.34 | Kraps | WobWork: no one ever asks Fisker that when he says "old" :( |
| 00:04.23 | WobWork | Kraps: noone pays any attention to Fisker =P |
| 00:04.35 | Kraps | i see |
| 00:04.55 | WobWork | Fisker has to work harder for new troll material all the time |
| 00:05.02 | WobWork | he works hard for the money |
| 00:05.06 | WobWork | So hard for it, honey |
| 00:09.47 | Kraps | need to restart the tubes |
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| 00:24.32 | Thunder_Child | i hate bad programers |
| 00:25.09 | A-KO | haha |
| 00:25.11 | A-KO | hahaha |
| 00:25.11 | A-KO | man |
| 00:25.26 | A-KO | you have no idea how much that statement has resonated with me this week |
| 00:28.29 | Jerub | i hate people who can't spell programmer. |
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| 00:29.47 | KarlKFI|work | Jerub: I hate You. |
| 00:30.07 | Jerub | KarlKFI|work: okay, i'll accept that. |
| 00:30.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I hate people. |
| 00:31.35 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: they doesnt diserve the extra m |
| 00:31.50 | Thunder_Child | * |
| 00:31.51 | WobWork | deserve |
| 00:31.52 | Thunder_Child | deserve* |
| 00:31.57 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 00:33.51 | A-KO | Thunder_Child: Our contracted developer company wrote software communications in ways that strain networking equipment, and with some combinations of equipment, isn't working properly. Then blame the equipment. :P |
| 00:34.19 | A-KO | the server piece broadcasts on 255.255.255.255 every second 24/7/365 so the clients can find it, so we don't have to type an IP into the client machine |
| 00:34.32 | A-KO | instead of the myriad of ways to do it properly |
| 00:35.07 | A-KO | A) DNS, B) Multicast group to find the server piece (and then switch to unicast once it finds it), or C) client sends out broadcast to find server and then creates a unicast connection with the response :P |
| 00:35.09 | Thunder_Child | how many broadcasting that way? |
| 00:35.17 | A-KO | 1.2KB every second |
| 00:35.23 | A-KO | on one server piece |
| 00:36.11 | A-KO | not to mention, once they make the unicast connection, they set the push bit on the TCP connection on a non-latency sensitive application, which further floods the network with useless overhead |
| 00:38.39 | cbreak | push bit? |
| 00:38.47 | cbreak | is that one of those status thingies no one cares about? |
| 00:39.29 | cbreak | (They should have taken Bonjour for service advertisement) |
| 00:40.26 | A-KO | cbreak: it essentially means don't buffer the data until the MTU is met |
| 00:40.30 | A-KO | just send straight away |
| 00:40.54 | cbreak | sounds raw |
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| 00:41.29 | DWSR | hey all |
| 00:42.08 | A-KO | so essentially cbreak, if you have 365 bytes of data, it says send it all as soon as you get it. In TCP/IP, 4 365-byte packet could be combined into a 1460 byte packet and sent at once.. |
| 00:42.23 | A-KO | in that situation, if you set the push flag, it wastes 174 bytes of data to send it |
| 00:42.37 | A-KO | over time that kind of adds up, extra load, etc. |
| 00:42.59 | DWSR | you waste 174 bytes of data to aend. |
| 00:43.01 | cbreak | that makes sense to do only for very time critical things |
| 00:44.19 | A-KO | you would think, but it's not :P it's just a simple application that's communicating form data |
| 00:44.24 | DWSR | you only make sense for time critical things. |
| 00:44.26 | A-KO | "name, address, phone number" stuff like that |
| 00:46.00 | Kraps | DWSR: ping |
| 00:50.37 | DWSR | Kraps: pong. |
| 00:50.55 | Kraps | you see my pm? |
| 00:52.35 | DWSR | sorry, using the webchat. |
| 00:52.44 | DWSR | pm notification blows. |
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| 01:11.47 | Kraps | paragon gets LK world first |
| 01:12.06 | Kraps | :) |
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| 01:18.53 | DWSR | and back, sorry Kraps. |
| 01:19.24 | Kraps | no |
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| 01:35.11 | xqo | why does "/run for i, v in pairs(NeedToKnow_Settings) do print(v)" not print anything? /run print(NeedToKnow_Settings) returns table: 1A984C90 |
| 01:36.51 | xqo | olh |
| 01:36.53 | xqo | i forgot end |
| 01:37.31 | DWSR | How does it feel, to come so far, only to FAIL? |
| 01:37.42 | DWSR | WELCOME to the endless winter! |
| 01:43.07 | Legorol | Can someone help out with distinguishing cloth items with various stats, which one's for which class? |
| 01:43.23 | Legorol | If it has spi, hit, crit, haste or mp5 (in various combos), |
| 01:43.28 | Legorol | which one's best for which class/spec |
| 01:43.43 | WobWork | hasn't played a cloth class in a while |
| 01:43.52 | Legorol | couple examples: |
| 01:44.05 | Legorol | two identical pieces, but one has spi and the other has mp5, what's for what? |
| 01:44.17 | Legorol | another example: a third piece has haste instead of the spi or mp5 |
| 01:44.18 | DWSR | Legorol: the spi is for DPS casters and druid healers. |
| 01:44.25 | DWSR | mp5 is a healer piece. |
| 01:44.34 | WobWork | haste could also be too =\ |
| 01:44.37 | Legorol | ok, why is mp5 healer and spi dps? |
| 01:44.45 | DWSR | Because spi gives DPS secondary stats. |
| 01:44.49 | Legorol | i thought priests have talents to regen mana from spi and gain various stuff |
| 01:44.49 | A-KO | as a druid I generally aim for mp5 over spirit :P generally |
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| 01:44.51 | WobWork | healers need the regen |
| 01:44.55 | DWSR | Such as crit for boomkins and mages, and sp for warlocks. |
| 01:45.00 | DWSR | A-KO: You're stupid then. |
| 01:45.06 | Legorol | DWSR: isn't that true for healers too? (secondary stat from spi) |
| 01:45.10 | DWSR | Legorol: No. |
| 01:45.18 | Legorol | ok, can you give me an example of a secondary stat? |
| 01:45.24 | A-KO | DWSR: the amount of regen from points of spirit is generally not all that much, especailly when cut into 50% chunks |
| 01:45.27 | DWSR | Also, regen is usually much better than said secondary stat from spirit. |
| 01:45.36 | cbreak | spirit gives crit |
| 01:45.40 | DWSR | Legorol: Secondary stats are haste/crit. |
| 01:45.45 | cbreak | mp/5 doesn't give anything |
| 01:45.55 | Legorol | aha, so mages for example have talents to gain haste or crit from spi? |
| 01:45.56 | A-KO | spirit for a druid gives SP, and regen |
| 01:46.02 | DWSR | Legorol: Crit from spi. |
| 01:46.04 | A-KO | no crit for us |
| 01:46.11 | Legorol | ok, what about the priest Meditation talent? (disc) |
| 01:46.13 | cbreak | mages get crit from spirit with molten armor |
| 01:46.25 | Legorol | wouldn't that make spi good for priest healers (disc or holy) |
| 01:46.35 | DWSR | Legorol: I don't know the exact stat priority for every caster class. |
| 01:46.46 | Legorol | ok, that's fine :) |
| 01:46.51 | Legorol | i'll just stick to what's generally accepted |
| 01:46.53 | DWSR | But basically, if it doesn't have mp5 or hit, it's pretty much equally useful for all the cloth casters. |
| 01:47.00 | Legorol | so if something has spi, the mage has bigger claim, and if it has mp5, the priest does? |
| 01:47.15 | DWSR | Legorol: Depends on the other secondary stats. |
| 01:47.17 | cbreak | if it has mana regen, no mage with a brain would want it |
| 01:47.18 | Legorol | ok dwsr |
| 01:47.25 | Legorol | and if it has mp5, it's hands down best for healers? |
| 01:47.27 | DWSR | No. |
| 01:47.30 | cbreak | just like trees don't get +hit gear |
| 01:47.41 | DWSR | Legorol: mp5 is for shaman healers, priests healers. |
| 01:47.42 | Legorol | i understand the point of not getting +hit if you are ahealer |
| 01:47.46 | WobWork | well, healers don't need hit |
| 01:47.49 | Legorol | but i thought mp5 is good for everyone |
| 01:47.50 | DWSR | Spi is for druid h.ealers |
| 01:47.55 | DWSR | Legorol: It's not bad. |
| 01:47.58 | WobWork | it is |
| 01:48.03 | cbreak | mages don't go out of mana if we don't want to |
| 01:48.05 | WobWork | druids get more regen from spirit |
| 01:48.10 | cbreak | we have evocation, mana gems, passive regen |
| 01:48.16 | DWSR | Legorol: Druid healers get better regen from spirit (and spell power) than from mp5. |
| 01:48.19 | cbreak | and variable rotations |
| 01:48.20 | Legorol | WobWork: ah ok but i was talking about cloth |
| 01:48.24 | Legorol | i don't give cloth to druids :P |
| 01:48.25 | A-KO | uhm |
| 01:48.27 | WobWork | hehe... and? =) |
| 01:48.27 | DWSR | ah. |
| 01:48.33 | Ginji | Paladins only gem intellect! |
| 01:48.33 | WobWork | druids can and will wear cloth |
| 01:48.36 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 01:48.37 | Legorol | but it's good to know a bit outside the box too :D |
| 01:48.38 | WobWork | if the stats require it |
| 01:48.41 | Legorol | yah i know, was just teasing |
| 01:48.58 | Legorol | ok, who here is good about priest stats? |
| 01:49.02 | DWSR | EJ is. |
| 01:49.16 | Legorol | specifically, if ther is a disc and holy priest, and there are various stats (haste/crit/spi) in various combos, which one's better for which |
| 01:49.24 | Legorol | DWSR: i don't like visiting EJ in my "casual" mode |
| 01:49.33 | Legorol | i visit it enough for my main class(es) |
| 01:49.44 | A-KO | from an item with 40 Spirit I get 12 mp5 as a druid |
| 01:49.48 | WobWork | eh, aside from the hardcore info, all the stuff on EJ is about how it's all worked out |
| 01:49.59 | Legorol | which i don't really need right now |
| 01:50.06 | Legorol | just basic rules of thumb for the casual pugger |
| 01:50.10 | A-KO | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mana_Regen |
| 01:50.11 | WobWork | well, you're asking questions, no? =) |
| 01:50.14 | A-KO | following that |
| 01:50.18 | WobWork | so it's more about the mechanics |
| 01:50.23 | Legorol | WobWork: well no |
| 01:50.30 | Legorol | i'm more asking what's the accepted standard/social standard in pugs |
| 01:50.31 | WobWork | you want to know -why- spi or mp5 is better for whatever class |
| 01:50.38 | Legorol | no i don't want to know |
| 01:50.39 | A-KO | Legorol: in pugs? anything goes generally |
| 01:50.43 | Legorol | i am sorry i asked :) |
| 01:50.44 | WobWork | yes, and that standard social is based on what works |
| 01:50.47 | A-KO | this is why they're simplifying these stats in Cataclysm |
| 01:50.48 | Legorol | i take those questions back |
| 01:51.08 | WobWork | in that case, Legorol, All spell power plate go to DKs =P |
| 01:51.11 | Legorol | A-KO: in pugs i always see people exclaiming "but that's a healer item!" or "it's dps" |
| 01:51.20 | Legorol | so i was just curious what they see ont he item that makes them say so |
| 01:51.26 | Legorol | WobWork: yah that i know |
| 01:51.26 | Shirik | that's a cleric item |
| 01:51.30 | WobWork | eh, go by mp5 == healer, +hit == dps |
| 01:51.34 | Legorol | i picked up a cool looking skirt from Marrowgar on my DK today |
| 01:51.37 | Legorol | it had tons of int and sp |
| 01:51.38 | WobWork | anything else is up for grabs |
| 01:51.38 | A-KO | Legorol: generally if it has +hit, it's DPS--if it's spirit/crit it's kind of a toss up really, all classes can benefit that can use it. If it's mp5, generally healer and not DPS |
| 01:51.39 | DWSR | Legorol: Cloth gear got all fucking homogenized. |
| 01:51.50 | A-KO | they did this on purpose |
| 01:51.54 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 01:52.04 | Legorol | ok, so only hit and mp5 are "magical" |
| 01:52.05 | Legorol | thanks |
| 01:52.07 | A-KO | cloth gear with stam/int/spirit/Spell power/crit is usable by all of them |
| 01:52.13 | Legorol | and haste |
| 01:52.15 | A-KO | yeah |
| 01:52.18 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 01:52.24 | Legorol | which brings me around to something a bit more specific: |
| 01:52.29 | WobWork | haste is good for resto shammies |
| 01:52.36 | Legorol | i have a lovely priest that dinged 80 just not long ago, and i'm putting on basic blues |
| 01:52.36 | cbreak | haste is good for mages |
| 01:52.41 | Legorol | (and some basic crafted) |
| 01:52.43 | A-KO | haste is good for pretty much everyone |
| 01:52.48 | WobWork | except DKs |
| 01:52.57 | Legorol | i find that in many cases i have a trivial choice between identical items, but one has spi, the other has haste |
| 01:53.01 | A-KO | I think I might fire up some mario galaxy here soon.... |
| 01:53.04 | A-KO | Legorol: I'd go haste |
| 01:53.05 | cbreak | DKs need the nerf stick :) |
| 01:53.08 | Legorol | i don't know which on'es better |
| 01:53.16 | DWSR | Legorol: If you're shadow, go haste. |
| 01:53.17 | Legorol | one thing i found is that i do run oom fast in heroics when chainpulling |
| 01:53.19 | Legorol | would spi help? |
| 01:53.22 | DWSR | Legorol: If you're a healer go spi. |
| 01:53.23 | Legorol | oh i heal, DWSR |
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| 01:53.26 | A-KO | haste |
| 01:53.28 | WobWork | yes |
| 01:53.31 | cbreak | Legorol: Rawr is nice for dps. I don't know how it works for healing |
| 01:53.31 | A-KO | and watch how you manage your mana |
| 01:53.45 | DWSR | cbreak: It models it in terms of burst healing, sustained healing and survivability. |
| 01:53.47 | A-KO | if you're chain pulling chances are somewhere you'll need to stop and drink |
| 01:53.47 | WobWork | healing, you don't -watch how you manage your mana- =P |
| 01:53.47 | Legorol | sadly rawr optimises for raids i think |
| 01:53.58 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 01:54.11 | A-KO | no you can set which buffs you have with rawr |
| 01:54.12 | Legorol | ok, last quesiton then: |
| 01:54.21 | Legorol | i prefer disc healing, is there any differnece in gearing from holy? |
| 01:54.22 | A-KO | so it's good for all sizes, even solo |
| 01:54.23 | A-KO | yes |
| 01:54.29 | DWSR | Legorol: Yes. Significantly. |
| 01:54.33 | cbreak | disc rocks |
| 01:54.36 | WobWork | <3 disc |
| 01:54.37 | Legorol | just rough guideline (oneliner) is enough for now :) |
| 01:54.41 | cbreak | (combined with incanter's absorbtion :) |
| 01:54.44 | A-KO | I hear intellect |
| 01:54.47 | Legorol | i really enjoy disc healing atm |
| 01:54.50 | A-KO | generally for disc :P I could be wrong though. |
| 01:54.52 | A-KO | is resto druid |
| 01:55.04 | WobWork | I want to transfer my priest cross server+ cross faction |
| 01:55.08 | WobWork | but it'll cost so much =( |
| 01:55.08 | Legorol | and i find heroics piss easy :( |
| 01:55.22 | Legorol | i thoght that being a freshly dinged 80, i'd have to focus at least, but i can watch TV |
| 01:55.24 | Legorol | it's sad |
| 01:56.07 | Legorol | ok, so just to verify (coming back to the earlier topic): if both a mage and a (healing) priest want that sp/spi item that dropped, it's fair to both? |
| 01:56.14 | A-KO | yes |
| 01:56.19 | Legorol | ok thanks for all the info guys :) |
| 01:56.28 | A-KO | blame blizzard |
| 01:56.30 | Legorol | i love this channel for its precise and quick answers, as always |
| 01:56.38 | Legorol | and i get slapped into shape if i ask the wrong thing/wrong way ;) |
| 01:56.38 | A-KO | that's what I did in beta |
| 01:57.06 | Legorol | speaking of mp5: i remember when ZG came out, and it had blues with mp5 on them, and eveyrone was "omg" |
| 01:57.22 | cbreak | Legorol: also, read procs |
| 01:57.23 | Legorol | now for a mage question: why is mp5 so crap? |
| 01:57.31 | cbreak | some are on healing spells or on damage spells |
| 01:57.42 | Legorol | i mean in theory it still helps a bit, but i take it it's a waste of a stat |
| 01:57.44 | cbreak | mp5 is crap because it doesn't do anything useful |
| 01:58.03 | WobWork | mages have other more efficient methods for mana regen |
| 01:58.05 | cbreak | I have a 30k mana pool |
| 01:58.07 | Legorol | ok |
| 01:58.13 | WobWork | as do warlocks |
| 01:58.16 | cbreak | I can regenerate 60% of that every 120 seconds |
| 01:58.23 | WobWork | and boomkins |
| 01:58.23 | Legorol | oh, another thing (i will probably keep asking until you get tired, i'm excited about cloth right now): |
| 01:58.36 | Legorol | if a mage claims that that sp/spi is a dps item and he has more right to it than me, what can i answer? |
| 01:58.37 | cbreak | so a pittyful few mana/5secs won't change anything at all |
| 01:58.53 | WobWork | that sp/spi is also a healer item |
| 01:58.55 | cbreak | just say "It's good for me too, so I roll too.) |
| 01:58.59 | WobWork | and you have just as much right to roll need |
| 01:59.08 | WobWork | or basically |
| 01:59.10 | Legorol | "but you should roll on the mp5 item! n00bheal0r!" |
| 01:59.14 | WobWork | "Item is an upgrade for me <need>" |
| 01:59.23 | WobWork | eh, it's a pug |
| 01:59.24 | cbreak | or you can discuss with him :) |
| 01:59.25 | WobWork | they can suck it |
| 01:59.29 | cbreak | that's what I do in my guild |
| 01:59.30 | Legorol | ty WW |
| 01:59.38 | Legorol | sure, in guild easy to discuss |
| 01:59.43 | cbreak | discussing is always better than just /random 100 |
| 01:59.56 | cbreak | in the random pugs I am, people usually just roll "Disenchant" |
| 01:59.58 | Legorol | i saw that you guys didn't quite agree on spi vs. haste |
| 02:00.00 | WobWork | I mean, really, an obvious upgrade is an upgrade |
| 02:00.03 | Legorol | what would be the deciding points? |
| 02:00.04 | cbreak | hardly ever anything else |
| 02:00.18 | cbreak | haste is better than spirit |
| 02:00.23 | cbreak | for me (mage) |
| 02:00.31 | Legorol | i mean for healing priest (disc or holy) |
| 02:00.37 | WobWork | if you have a decent mana pool, haste over spi |
| 02:00.42 | cbreak | I like spell damage, haste, crit, hit, int, spirit, in about that order |
| 02:00.55 | DWSR | No. |
| 02:00.55 | cbreak | of course, hit becomes absolutely worthless |
| 02:00.58 | cbreak | once I hit the cap |
| 02:01.01 | DWSR | Right. |
| 02:01.03 | Legorol | sure, hit depends on cap |
| 02:01.10 | WobWork | if you find yourself oom a lot, go the spirit |
| 02:01.17 | DWSR | Warlocks are sp>haste>spirit>crit>int |
| 02:01.17 | Legorol | but that's a separate issue (and since every class has to deal with hit cap, i'm familiar with that0 |
| 02:01.20 | cbreak | get a better rotation :) |
| 02:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | spirit is pretty bad for dps casters in general. |
| 02:01.26 | DWSR | NHTS: No it's not. |
| 02:01.35 | DWSR | Warlocks have Glyph of Life Tap and Fel Armor |
| 02:01.39 | Jerub | i tried the new voa encounter on 25. |
| 02:01.45 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: compared to just about every other dps stat? it kind of is. |
| 02:01.49 | Legorol | Jerub: it's piss, isn't it |
| 02:01.53 | DWSR | NHTS: Spirit > Crit for warlocks, actually. |
| 02:01.55 | Jerub | that shit is fucked up. an orb spawns, 2 guys die and everyone else is nearly dead. |
| 02:02.08 | Legorol | :O |
| 02:02.16 | Legorol | i oneshot it on 25 in a pug where most have never seen the boss before |
| 02:02.18 | Legorol | maybe i was just lucky |
| 02:02.28 | Jerub | we only got him down to 60% each attempt |
| 02:02.30 | Jerub | i bailed. |
| 02:02.33 | Legorol | :*( |
| 02:02.42 | Legorol | that fight is really about the ranged dps not being noobs |
| 02:02.47 | Legorol | and target those friggin orbs and kite |
| 02:03.02 | Legorol | my realm has a strong pve community and pugs are usually fairly decent |
| 02:03.14 | Legorol | often our raid pugs can do better than most guilds on other realms |
| 02:03.17 | Jerub | voa groups are always a grabbag though |
| 02:03.22 | Legorol | true |
| 02:03.23 | Jerub | no one schedules them for guilds and shit |
| 02:03.27 | Legorol | we do ^^ |
| 02:03.31 | cbreak | we too |
| 02:03.35 | Legorol | at least while it's worthwhile |
| 02:03.36 | Jerub | well, horde on our realm never has voa |
| 02:03.37 | Legorol | we did Toravon on wed |
| 02:03.45 | Legorol | ah yah forgot about the faciton |
| 02:03.47 | Legorol | *faction |
| 02:03.56 | cbreak | it's fairly even on my realm |
| 02:04.16 | Legorol | so, haste for a disc priest is only good for spamming my stuff faster, right? |
| 02:04.30 | Legorol | hence if i find that i don't need to ever hurry with healing, i might as well stick to spi? |
| 02:04.35 | cbreak | that's what haste does |
| 02:04.41 | cbreak | I am not sure if it makes hots tick faster |
| 02:04.53 | DWSR | cbreak: No. |
| 02:05.03 | DWSR | Priests aren't druids. |
| 02:05.13 | Legorol | they want to be though :P |
| 02:05.24 | Legorol | at least i do |
| 02:05.30 | WobWork | hots tick faster on druids if you have the glyph |
| 02:05.35 | Legorol | imo druid is the most imba class right now |
| 02:05.39 | WobWork | for that spell anyway |
| 02:05.48 | Legorol | ever since they let hybrids do everything as good as nonhybrids, a druid can do all 4 roles in the game |
| 02:05.48 | cbreak | my guild did some ICC10 tonight |
| 02:05.50 | Legorol | which is neat |
| 02:05.52 | WobWork | I'm not sure how useful it actually is in heroics |
| 02:05.53 | xqo | In Python you can define pre-set variables for functions, like def function(var1,var2="sex"), can i do this in lua aswell? |
| 02:06.07 | WobWork | xqo: no |
| 02:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: kinda depends |
| 02:06.12 | cbreak | about 25 interested people, 9 druids |
| 02:06.19 | Legorol | xqo: by pre-set variable, do you mean defaults? |
| 02:06.25 | xqo | yes i suppose so |
| 02:06.26 | NightHawkTheSane | for some of the harder heroics (iccs) its nice. |
| 02:06.30 | xqo | can i set defaults in lua? |
| 02:06.30 | cbreak | you can do it |
| 02:06.32 | cbreak | manually |
| 02:06.35 | Legorol | xqo: you can't do it like that, but it's very easy to do something that has the same effect |
| 02:06.39 | Legorol | for example: |
| 02:06.47 | NightHawkTheSane | it also makes it easier to keep a tank topped with just rejuv and the occasional regrowth |
| 02:06.55 | cbreak | def = function (a, b, c) a = a or "test" b = b or "different" c = c or "variable end |
| 02:07.05 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 02:07.06 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: I found myself running out of mana quicksmart =( |
| 02:07.18 | Legorol | cbreak: that's not 100% right, if it's a boolean var you are screwed |
| 02:07.28 | cbreak | yeah |
| 02:07.31 | cbreak | tragic... :) |
| 02:07.34 | Legorol | but that's the kind of example i was going to give |
| 02:07.38 | cbreak | you can make it more elaborate in that case |
| 02:07.40 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: really? i haven't had that issue. |
| 02:07.50 | NightHawkTheSane | at least not in heroics. |
| 02:07.51 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: granted, I am a -very- noob 80 |
| 02:07.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 02:07.57 | Jerub | the new rapid rejuv glyph makes the druid a viable tank healer. |
| 02:08.04 | xqo | what about, function sex(a,b,c) if not a then a="sex" end print(a) end, would that work? |
| 02:08.04 | DWSR | lulz, no it doesn't. |
| 02:08.10 | Jerub | but man, it massacred my mana |
| 02:08.13 | WobWork | I've healed maybe two instances |
| 02:08.16 | Jerub | when raid healing i had to click it off. |
| 02:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* yeah, for a fresh 80 its not really a great glyph, you likely dont have the mana pool or regen to suppor it |
| 02:08.23 | DWSR | Jerub: Druids still have no big cooldowns for tank survivability. |
| 02:08.24 | cbreak | try it... |
| 02:08.34 | cbreak | DWSR: that's not true! |
| 02:08.34 | WobWork | Nature's swiftness? |
| 02:08.41 | cbreak | Combat Rez is still a big cooldown |
| 02:08.45 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:08.57 | Jerub | DWSR: between RR, glyphed swiftmend and natures swiftness and just spamming nourish, you can keep a tank up through basically anything. |
| 02:09.01 | Legorol | xqo: it would work, but cbreak wrote is the same thing |
| 02:09.21 | Legorol | a = a or "sex" is the same as if not a then a = "sex" |
| 02:09.22 | cbreak | if you want to make it precise, compare with nil |
| 02:09.23 | DWSR | Jerub: Go heal heroic beasts in content-appropriate gear and you tell me that. |
| 02:09.34 | Jerub | nourish can deliver about 10k health a second when geared. |
| 02:09.36 | cbreak | then you can also get false passed |
| 02:09.49 | DWSR | Jerub: Tanks die in less than a second without cooldowns on that fight. |
| 02:09.50 | cbreak | but if you expect strings or numbers, that shorthand works |
| 02:09.53 | Jerub | okay, yeah, i see what you mean there. ToC was very hard for me before i geared up. |
| 02:10.05 | Jerub | wait, heroic beasts? |
| 02:10.07 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 02:10.08 | Jerub | I did heal that. |
| 02:10.12 | DWSR | TANK heal? |
| 02:10.16 | Jerub | we lost the DPS race. I was in 232 gear. |
| 02:10.18 | Jerub | yes. tank healing. |
| 02:10.23 | DWSR | You rotating 3 tanks? |
| 02:10.24 | DWSR | Or using 2? |
| 02:10.27 | Jerub | 2. |
| 02:10.27 | Legorol | heroic beasts is not just up to the healers, you want smart tanks with good cooldown use |
| 02:10.37 | Legorol | 2 tanks on heroic beasts? ouch |
| 02:10.43 | DWSR | Meh, it's easy. |
| 02:10.43 | Legorol | i know it's possible but it's harsh |
| 02:10.53 | Jerub | aaaages ago i had a really good go at togc10 and it was the worms coming out that nailed us. |
| 02:11.00 | Legorol | ah, 10-man |
| 02:11.05 | Legorol | 10-man's piss :P |
| 02:11.13 | Legorol | j/k |
| 02:11.32 | Legorol | 10-man togc is fun |
| 02:11.32 | NeoTron | afaik my guild always used 2 tanks in 25 man |
| 02:11.32 | DWSR | Jerub: Druids need a second healer with CDs to keep up a tank in the hard hitting stuff. |
| 02:11.32 | Legorol | our healers suck :( |
| 02:11.35 | Legorol | we used 3 tanks and they still failed |
| 02:11.39 | DWSR | Jerub: Assuming your healers aren't crazy geared. |
| 02:11.43 | cbreak | my guild uses 4 tanks in most 25 mans |
| 02:11.46 | DWSR | Legorol: 2 tanks just requires the liberal use of buffs. |
| 02:11.48 | cbreak | because we have many tanks |
| 02:11.48 | Jerub | DWSR: yeah, i'll pay that. |
| 02:11.55 | Jerub | paladin healers are just ungodly good at tank healing. |
| 02:12.13 | Jerub | but i'm just sayin', with the right glyphs, druids can do a competent job. |
| 02:12.13 | Legorol | DWSR: but big damage spikes on gormok are very predictable, doesn't that make it possible to heal with swiftmend? |
| 02:12.33 | DWSR | Legorol: No. |
| 02:12.43 | Jerub | (but i now carry glyphs so i can effectively raidheal) |
| 02:12.51 | DWSR | I have seen tanks go from 100% to 0 in <0.5 seconds. |
| 02:12.54 | DWSR | On that fight. |
| 02:13.11 | DWSR | Swiftmend won't heal through that kind of damage. |
| 02:13.15 | Jerub | isn't that a matter of 'stack stam' |
| 02:13.18 | DWSR | No. |
| 02:13.25 | DWSR | Impale hits like a truck. |
| 02:13.28 | Jerub | ah, sorry, you're american? |
| 02:13.37 | DWSR | No. |
| 02:14.08 | Jerub | because <0.5seconds is only 100ms reaction time. |
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| 02:14.21 | Legorol | DWSR: nothing can heal through 100 to 0 in <0.5 |
| 02:14.30 | cbreak | shields can |
| 02:14.35 | Legorol | true |
| 02:14.46 | Thunder_Child | SHILED ARENT A HEAL |
| 02:14.51 | Thunder_Child | err..blasted cap |
| 02:14.53 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 02:14.58 | cbreak | earth shield? or how was that shaman thing called? |
| 02:14.59 | Thunder_Child | shields* |
| 02:15.05 | DWSR | Legorol: CDs can. |
| 02:15.11 | Jerub | DWSR: only if you hit them. |
| 02:15.13 | DWSR | Legorol: I'm talking about Pain Supression, Guardian Spirit. |
| 02:15.39 | cbreak | or that priest jumpy heal? |
| 02:15.39 | DWSR | Divine Sacrifice. |
| 02:15.39 | cbreak | prayer of mending |
| 02:15.39 | DWSR | cbreak: Penance. |
| 02:15.39 | Legorol | DWSR: those are not heals. those are CDs that reduce the damage |
| 02:15.48 | DWSR | Legorol: Right, and druids have none. |
| 02:15.50 | Jerub | Legorol: we're talking about healer utilities, they count. |
| 02:15.57 | Legorol | DWSR: but someone else in the raid surely does |
| 02:16.04 | Jerub | which is what he said. |
| 02:16.06 | Legorol | we routinely use HoS from a ret pali and stuff like that |
| 02:16.12 | Legorol | ah ok |
| 02:16.18 | DWSR | Legorol: My point is. |
| 02:16.24 | DWSR | You cannot have a druid solo heal a tank. |
| 02:16.27 | DWSR | Not like paladins can. |
| 02:16.30 | DWSR | Or disc priests. |
| 02:16.43 | Legorol | you are implying here that using CDs is the tank healer's job |
| 02:16.49 | DWSR | Legorol: Yes. |
| 02:16.50 | Legorol | i was asserting that it isn't, it's anyone in the raid that has one |
| 02:16.51 | WobWork | yes |
| 02:16.51 | DWSR | It is, partly. |
| 02:17.01 | Legorol | as long as it's organised |
| 02:17.10 | DWSR | Legorol: Of course |
| 02:17.11 | Legorol | (on gormok we have surgical precision in our CD usage) |
| 02:17.16 | DWSR | But you want tank healers using theirs first |
| 02:17.24 | Legorol | no we don't :) they are busy healing |
| 02:17.27 | Legorol | don't want to interrupt that |
| 02:17.41 | Legorol | we almost always get someone *other* than tank healer to use their CD |
| 02:17.48 | DWSR | Your healers must suck if having 1 of them blow a GCD on GS leading to tank deaths. |
| 02:17.56 | Legorol | yes, our healers suck |
| 02:17.59 | Legorol | didn't i say that? |
| 02:18.12 | Legorol | they suck so badly it makes me cry sometimes |
| 02:18.13 | Jerub | i actually find the concept of 'healing just one target' hard as a druid. i throw hots on low raid members and both tanks when i'm healing '1' tank. |
| 02:18.22 | Legorol | but we have to work around it ;) |
| 02:18.34 | DWSR | Jerub: Right, and you come to yet another reason why druids aren't great tank healers. |
| 02:18.48 | WobWork | 11114? |
| 02:19.03 | Jerub | WobWork: huh? |
| 02:19.12 | WobWork | rejuvx4 + wg |
| 02:19.25 | WobWork | raid healing =) |
| 02:19.30 | Jerub | oh, whatever's appropriate. |
| 02:19.35 | Thunder_Child | right WobWork, because everyone has rejuv on key 1 |
| 02:19.44 | WobWork | well, I've got the terminology wrong |
| 02:19.48 | Jerub | often it's rejuv/nourish on a really low target, then throwing hots around. |
| 02:20.00 | WobWork | but it's something along those lines |
| 02:21.05 | Jerub | i really don't have a rotation. i just use whatever's appropriate at the time. |
| 02:21.13 | Jerub | often WG is the wrong spell. |
| 02:21.24 | Jerub | depending on raid clumping. |
| 02:21.26 | DWSR | raid healing is whack a mole. |
| 02:22.15 | Jerub | sure, but tank healing is facerolling. |
| 02:22.28 | DWSR | no, that's DPS. |
| 02:22.39 | DWSR | tank healing is intelligent facerolling |
| 02:22.45 | Jerub | no, that's good tank healing. |
| 02:22.52 | Jerub | just like good raid healing isn't simply whackamole. |
| 02:23.27 | WobWork | good raid healing is knowing where players are grouped for effective aoe heals |
| 02:23.37 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 02:23.37 | WobWork | also what areas will take what incoming damage |
| 02:23.39 | DWSR | AoE healing? |
| 02:23.43 | WobWork | chain heal is aoe =P |
| 02:23.45 | A-KO | :P |
| 02:23.49 | Jerub | so is WG. |
| 02:23.49 | DWSR | WobWork: LULZ.\ |
| 02:23.54 | WobWork | and it's pointless to chain heal a hunter off to the edge |
| 02:23.55 | DWSR | who uses that shit anymore? |
| 02:24.02 | A-KO | WobWork: unfortunately not a lot of people pay that much attention, though, generally, healers pay more attention to that stuff than anyone else in the raid. |
| 02:24.11 | WobWork | DWSR: you don't chain heal? |
| 02:24.11 | A-KO | DWSR: it's still one of the highest output heals in the game |
| 02:24.16 | WobWork | wtf? =P |
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| 02:24.23 | DWSR | Obviously, I rerolled druid. |
| 02:24.25 | WobWork | how the hell do you raid heal? |
| 02:24.30 | DWSR | Since shamans aren't as overpowered. |
| 02:24.35 | WobWork | ah, by 'shit' you mean 'class' =P |
| 02:24.35 | A-KO | Shamans are pretty OP |
| 02:24.40 | Jerub | WG is the highest heal-to-mana heal spell i have, but only if used approrpiately. |
| 02:24.43 | A-KO | CH I feel is still really OP |
| 02:24.45 | WobWork | well fuck you and the bear you rode in on =P |
| 02:25.13 | DWSR | LOOKITMEICANRUNAROUNDANDHAVEAWESOMEHEALSATTHESAMETIME <-- This, to me, is what the definition of druid healing is. |
| 02:25.21 | WobWork | lies |
| 02:25.24 | DWSR | Rejuvs for everyone! |
| 02:25.26 | A-KO | I think chain heal does too much at once to too many targets. But for what it's worth, druids get 2 1 second heals |
| 02:25.33 | WobWork | you didn't put 'ANDJUMPJUMPJUMPJUMP' in there |
| 02:25.46 | Jerub | A-KO: uh, there are no 1 second heals. |
| 02:25.54 | Jerub | A-KO: for druids. do you mean GCD heals? |
| 02:25.54 | A-KO | isn't lifebloom on a 1 second tick? |
| 02:26.04 | Jerub | oh, you mean ticks? |
| 02:26.06 | A-KO | pretty sure it is |
| 02:26.06 | A-KO | yeah |
| 02:26.10 | A-KO | that's what I mean by that |
| 02:26.12 | Jerub | LB is 1 second tick. |
| 02:26.16 | WobWork | lifebloom is such a mana hog =( |
| 02:26.18 | Jerub | but it's not a useful hot normally. |
| 02:26.24 | A-KO | I think it is |
| 02:26.25 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 02:26.30 | A-KO | at least for driving numbers of pure healing amount |
| 02:26.36 | A-KO | it will tick before anyone else can cast something meaningful |
| 02:26.42 | xqo | is an event fired when a variable is changed_ |
| 02:26.44 | Jerub | A-KO: yes, but in practicality it's not useful for raid healing. |
| 02:26.44 | xqo | ?* |
| 02:26.48 | A-KO | no, not raid healing |
| 02:26.49 | A-KO | of course |
| 02:26.53 | cbreak | xqo: no. |
| 02:26.54 | A-KO | but a tank or two, sure |
| 02:26.54 | WobWork | xqo: what variable? |
| 02:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | xqo: no |
| 02:27.12 | Jerub | A-KO: what happens is, the entire raid takes a splash of damage, and the raid healers throw heals around ton those members, starting with the lowest and working up to the least damaged. |
| 02:27.16 | A-KO | on initial tank pulls I'll throw 2-3 lifeblooms, let them bloom off, and toss a rejuv |
| 02:27.21 | A-KO | just to buffer the tank while everyone gets into place |
| 02:27.24 | Jerub | A-KO: everyone does it semi-randomly so that they're not doubling up, but don't do a good job. |
| 02:27.24 | xqo | i found CVAR_UPDATE, but i guess that does not apply to variables made by my addons |
| 02:27.33 | DWSR | yes |
| 02:27.38 | DWSR | CVARs are console variables. |
| 02:27.53 | Jerub | A-KO: so by the time 6 seconds has passed and LB blooms, it's blooming on someone on full health because someone's thrown a /real/ heal on them. |
| 02:28.17 | A-KO | Jerub: not always, and again, as long as the tank doesn't die, it's not something I feel is a bad decision. |
| 02:28.18 | WobWork | Jerub: I think he means that the tick itself is decent enough to act as a heal |
| 02:28.18 | Jerub | yeah, i use LB on tank pulls, and /sometimes/ when there's a huge amount of damage rnning arond. |
| 02:28.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lifebloom is invaluable for "hey the raid is stunned and the tank will take a pile of damage right after" |
| 02:28.36 | Jerub | but more often than not, it blooms when someone else has thrown a 14k heal on and does ntohing. |
| 02:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | the tick speed and the bloom wins |
| 02:28.44 | A-KO | sure, but the tick is a GREAT buffer |
| 02:28.53 | Jerub | okay, fair enough. |
| 02:29.03 | A-KO | The only heal I really truly 100% hate is wild growth |
| 02:29.15 | Jerub | have blizz fixed the WG targetting bug? |
| 02:29.20 | Jerub | I still have that macro |
| 02:29.24 | WobWork | what's the bug? |
| 02:29.38 | A-KO | it's a 100% reactive heal, and there's no way around it. With things like Nourish or HT, you can pre-load and time damage intake...but you have no choice but to wait until after the damage is done to throw WG out and have it be the most effective |
| 02:29.41 | A-KO | and I really don't like that :( |
| 02:29.44 | xqo | you see, i'm using NeedToKnow, its an addon that makes bars. I want to change the color of a bar with my own addon, but NeedToKnow changes the color back to the original after a while. So while it is not very sexy, i thought i'd just check whether or not the variable had changed very often and change it back |
| 02:30.01 | WobWork | A-KO: well, that's the same for all instant heals |
| 02:30.16 | Jerub | WobWork: if you target a dead person, then use a click heal on a live person, it will say you have no target andthe heal won't cast. |
| 02:30.20 | cbreak | why not fixing the addon? |
| 02:30.25 | WobWork | Jerub: wow, that kinda sucks |
| 02:30.35 | cbreak | find the code that changes the color |
| 02:30.42 | cbreak | and patch it |
| 02:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | q |
| 02:30.51 | xqo | i've tried, its hard |
| 02:30.52 | Jerub | WobWork: so you have to have a macro that will clear and retarget for your click heals. |
| 02:30.58 | A-KO | WobWork: not necessarily, a rejuv if 1 tick gets off beforehand that's not too big of a deal, for example, keeping a rolling tick of rejuvs on a tank. That's not necessarily a bad thing to do despite the mana cost. Wild growth penalizes you for that sort of thing. |
| 02:31.14 | Jerub | WobWork: i think it also errors out when you use it when targeting an enemy mob too far away |
| 02:31.22 | xqo | i found that NeedToKnow saves colors in a huge array, NeedToKnow_Settings["Spec"][1]["Groups"][1]["Bars"][2]["vct_color"]["g"], but when i try to change that, nothing happens. i guess im missing an update-function or something |
| 02:31.24 | WobWork | A-KO: what about NS/HT? |
| 02:31.40 | WobWork | or even swiftmend |
| 02:32.00 | A-KO | WobWork: you can time those on tanks so that you can throw it out as soon as they take a big spike of damage. |
| 02:32.03 | WobWork | by instant cast heals, I mean direct heals |
| 02:32.09 | WobWork | not hots |
| 02:32.20 | WobWork | or heals with a direct component |
| 02:32.26 | A-KO | swiftmend, I suppose it's similar to WG, but the only penalty with that is simply the mana cost of healing a full healed target. |
| 02:32.44 | A-KO | and I can keep a swiftmend timed immediately |
| 02:32.48 | A-KO | wild growth just...meh |
| 02:32.50 | WobWork | you can time WG on the raid in prep for spike damage? |
| 02:32.52 | WobWork | can't you? |
| 02:33.05 | WobWork | like... Meteor is about to fall on that group... |
| 02:33.07 | Jerub | WobWork: you can, but its ticks decrease in effectiveness. |
| 02:33.14 | A-KO | sure, but often times it doesn't work fast enough to get people up |
| 02:33.16 | Jerub | so you want to cast it after the damage is done, not before. |
| 02:33.18 | A-KO | even with 2 piece t10 |
| 02:33.33 | Jerub | i get my 2T10 this week, but that's probably going to my tank not my healspec |
| 02:33.39 | A-KO | Chain heal will out heal a wild growth pretty damn quickly |
| 02:33.42 | xqo | cbreak, im trying to make something like this http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13159-Xqerpent.html, except i want to change the color of NeedToKnow's bars instead of its own frames. |
| 02:33.45 | WobWork | ah, so the problem is that the direct heal portion of WG isn't sufficient to be worthwhile |
| 02:33.48 | A-KO | and no penalty |
| 02:34.00 | A-KO | WG has no direct heal, it's a decreasing HOT over time |
| 02:34.08 | cbreak | xqo: have fun coding :D |
| 02:34.09 | A-KO | that loses effectiveness as it goes |
| 02:34.24 | cbreak | comprehending other people's code is very educative |
| 02:34.27 | WobWork | oh I see |
| 02:34.44 | A-KO | with a 6 second CD |
| 02:34.45 | xqo | its not so much coding as it is looking through NeedToKnow for possible solutions |
| 02:35.03 | A-KO | though, I don't disagree with the CD they put on it, that would have made many fights pretty damn trivial in ICC |
| 02:35.10 | WobWork | it's like DK's pestilence, it does no direct damage, but sets up the dots, but in this case the hots |
| 02:35.29 | WobWork | (and has limited targets) |
| 02:36.06 | A-KO | remembers WG when it was called Flourish |
| 02:38.49 | WobWork | what happens if you toss out WG fractionally before the spike? |
| 02:40.21 | WobWork | Man.. what do druids -do- on Loatheb? =\ |
| 02:40.43 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 02:40.50 | DWSR | WobWork: Prehot. |
| 02:40.52 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, I got an error from emerge and I actually understood what to do... |
| 02:41.01 | Shirik | like, right away |
| 02:41.14 | Jerub | lol gentoo |
| 02:42.34 | DWSR | emerge has the best error messages |
| 02:43.33 | DWSR | God |
| 02:43.37 | DWSR | I just had a bad pug tank. |
| 02:43.42 | DWSR | Who couldn't hold threat. |
| 02:43.59 | DWSR | So I wiped the group 3 times then left, because he started telling me that I was doing too much DPS. |
| 02:46.10 | xqo | what class are you? |
| 02:49.49 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:49.54 | Shirik | warning: ...If you don't know if this applies to you, then it doesn't and you should probably be using Hardened, instead. |
| 02:52.19 | DWSR | xqo: Warlock |
| 02:52.54 | WobWork | http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=53 |
| 02:54.02 | Jerub | we had one of the top DKs on our realm kicked from an OS25 for giving the RL tank shit about his gear and the threat he was putting out. |
| 02:54.20 | Jerub | as a result he pulled the 3rd drake and all the adds at once before he was teleported out. |
| 02:56.57 | DWSR | I would too. |
| 02:57.26 | ZorbaTHut | I wouldn't, but I would laugh like hell |
| 02:59.45 | Legorol | DWSR: why do you need to give tanks a hard time all the time? |
| 02:59.54 | Legorol | try tanking, and then you'll see how annoying dps is :P |
| 03:00.56 | Jerub | (we killed everything, had a few losses, then oneshot sarth) |
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| 03:01.43 | Jerub | i'm sure he felt all manly about causing 24 other people to have to pay repairs and all, but it didn't work out that ay. |
| 03:04.14 | xqo | what event is fired most frequently |
| 03:04.17 | xqo | ?* |
| 03:05.06 | cbreak | depends |
| 03:05.11 | cbreak | and xqo |
| 03:05.19 | cbreak | DO NOT DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO |
| 03:05.25 | cbreak | I know what you think |
| 03:05.27 | cbreak | and it's a terrible idea |
| 03:05.29 | cbreak | don't |
| 03:05.40 | DWSR | Legorol: I do tank. |
| 03:05.40 | cbreak | your addon will suck majorly |
| 03:05.41 | cbreak | if you do |
| 03:05.43 | xqo | yes, i realize it is probably pretty intensive for the hardware |
| 03:05.49 | DWSR | Being bad at tanking is really hard. |
| 03:05.54 | DWSR | Especially if you're a paladin or a DK. |
| 03:05.56 | xqo | but I can't for the life of me figure out a different way to make the colorchange last |
| 03:06.01 | DWSR | This person was a paladin |
| 03:06.07 | cbreak | use your brain for a few days :) |
| 03:06.19 | cbreak | just reverse engineer the addon |
| 03:06.22 | xqo | I give up very easily |
| 03:06.31 | ScytheBlade1 | frame:SetTexture()? |
| 03:06.44 | ScytheBlade1 | :SetColor()? |
| 03:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | tada? |
| 03:07.03 | xqo | ScytheBlade1, yes, but it is changed back after a little while |
| 03:07.06 | Shirik | 500 Internal Server Error. Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. |
| 03:07.12 | Shirik | I would love to, but I don't think that's going to work very well. |
| 03:07.29 | ScytheBlade1 | xqo: contact the author and ask? |
| 03:07.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: then you fail at email ;) |
| 03:07.53 | Shirik | whwy |
| 03:08.11 | ScytheBlade1 | root@localhost works fine here |
| 03:08.13 | ScytheBlade1 | nub |
| 03:08.25 | Shirik | I don't think it's going to get me far in resolving my problem I mean |
| 03:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | perhaps |
| 03:08.53 | ScytheBlade1 | also, wai no disc |
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| 03:09.04 | Shirik | cuz |
| 03:09.32 | ScytheBlade1 | well I do not believe that you ate it |
| 03:09.50 | Shirik | oh it is my fault actually |
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| 03:10.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, wtfhax: [Thu Feb 04 22:08:21 2010] [error] [client 70.119.100.122] (13)Permission denied: Could not open password file: /etc/nagios/auth.users |
| 03:10.21 | Shirik | -rw-r--r-- 1 nagios nagios 26 Feb 4 21:55 auth.users |
| 03:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | xqo: set the variable, and manually change the color? |
| 03:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: selinux? also, a+x |
| 03:10.56 | xqo | what do you mean, ScytheBlade1? |
| 03:10.58 | Shirik | not selinux |
| 03:11.08 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 03:11.17 | ScytheBlade1 | r to /etc/nagios ? |
| 03:11.22 | Kraps | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2580/paragonlichkingkillcopy.jpg |
| 03:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | xqo: you pasted the variable a bit ago. change that, and set the color manually as well. see if that sticks |
| 03:11.53 | Shirik | drwxr-xr-- 3 nagios nagios 1024 Feb 4 21:55 nagios |
| 03:12.08 | Shirik | or should it be rx? |
| 03:12.22 | ScytheBlade1 | rx |
| 03:12.23 | xqo | yes i tried that, ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:12.28 | xqo | but nothing happened when i change the variable |
| 03:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | so do both at the same time |
| 03:12.49 | Shirik | yay |
| 03:12.50 | Shirik | <3 you |
| 03:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: x on dirs is permission to enter |
| 03:13.11 | Shirik | a |
| 03:13.36 | ScytheBlade1 | of course |
| 03:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | you could have just used an acl |
| 03:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | setfacl -m u:apache:rx /whatever |
| 03:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | instead of opening the whole thing up |
| 03:15.42 | Shirik | wtf is setfacl |
| 03:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | set file acl |
| 03:16.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wtf acl |
| 03:16.10 | Shirik | don't matter really, if someone has access to that directory I'm already screwed anyway |
| 03:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 03:16.33 | Shirik | if this server needed to be locked down hardcore, I would care |
| 03:16.36 | Shirik | but it's used by like 5 people |
| 03:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: chmod -R 777 / |
| 03:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | imo |
| 03:16.46 | Shirik | nnoty |
| 03:17.14 | ScytheBlade1 | but srs |
| 03:17.17 | ScytheBlade1 | acls ftw |
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| 03:22.38 | ScytheBlade1 | also nagios is overkill |
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| 03:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.zabbix.com/screenshots.php |
| 03:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | afk sleep |
| 03:25.26 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: It was what I had known about |
| 03:25.39 | ScytheBlade1 | see above |
| 03:26.07 | fletchyy | Hello all. I am trying to create a script so that I can extract all the Saronite Ore (and just that, no other items) from my bags. However, even though TakeInboxItem gets called once for ever item (tested that it gets inside the loop with a stub), it only actually loots once. Is there something i can add so that it waits for the next TakeInboxItem |
| 03:26.58 | fletchyy | http://pastebin.com/m3fd3a0fb ->> the code |
| 03:28.30 | Adys | WobWork: that site is retarded. |
| 03:30.09 | A-KO | fletchyy: just an idea, but GetInboxNumItems(); returns one value |
| 03:30.11 | A-KO | not 2.... |
| 03:30.34 | Wobin | Adys, the mail one? |
| 03:30.39 | Adys | yeah |
| 03:30.46 | Adys | in the land of unfunny, it's hitting rock-bottom |
| 03:30.49 | Wobin | yep |
| 03:31.10 | fletchyy | A-KO, thank you |
| 03:31.21 | fletchyy | However do you know why its not looting more than 1 item? |
| 03:31.47 | A-KO | fletchyy: probably |
| 03:32.12 | A-KO | change attachments_max_receive from the constant ot just the value for the total max items in a single mail item |
| 03:32.45 | A-KO | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/TakeInboxItem |
| 03:32.47 | A-KO | or that there :P |
| 03:32.58 | fletchyy | Which would be hasItem in this case correct? |
| 03:33.13 | A-KO | no |
| 03:33.19 | fletchyy | I did alot of research last night trying to find out which was better and documentation led to the constant, didnt really explain why though |
| 03:33.33 | A-KO | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInboxHeaderInfo |
| 03:33.38 | A-KO | it would be ItemCount in that function |
| 03:34.35 | A-KO | again, the TakeInboxItem link I posted tells you how to use it |
| 03:35.17 | A-KO | so I would be like, AttachmentCount = select(8,GetInboxHeaderInfo(index)); |
| 03:35.53 | A-KO | beneath the if statement checking for having an item, and before the for loop, put that |
| 03:36.01 | fletchyy | Ok ill have a look see |
| 03:36.02 | A-KO | and then change the attachments_max_receive to AttachmentCount |
| 03:36.08 | A-KO | and you should be good :P |
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| 03:39.41 | fletchyy | Ok those changes work |
| 03:39.49 | fletchyy | However the original issue is still apparently |
| 03:39.52 | fletchyy | apparent* |
| 03:40.14 | A-KO | it's only looting once? |
| 03:40.15 | Adys | http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/02/03/silverstone-announces-hybrid-ssd-hard-disk/1 |
| 03:40.18 | fletchyy | Correct |
| 03:40.19 | A-KO | give it a minute it should show up |
| 03:40.20 | fletchyy | Only once |
| 03:40.33 | fletchyy | Nope only loots once |
| 03:40.43 | fletchyy | I have to retype /myaddon to trigger another loot |
| 03:41.02 | fletchyy | which in turn runs the whole thing again but it shouldnt need to as it gets inside the takeitem loop at least 10 times |
| 03:41.12 | A-KO | take out the if count > 0 thing :P |
| 03:41.15 | A-KO | really not needed |
| 03:41.19 | A-KO | you either have an attachment or you don't |
| 03:41.46 | fletchyy | Ok i just thought it might throw an error if it tries to take the inbox item of an invalid number |
| 03:42.33 | fletchyy | Apparently TakeInboxItem is asynchronous though but there is is no such thing as a "wait" in lua is there? |
| 03:42.42 | A-KO | WoW should queue it up |
| 03:42.55 | fletchyy | I tried looking at source code from Postal and other addons but its over complicated for me |
| 03:43.47 | A-KO | so where is it having trouble? Is getting through all of the attachments in a single mail message? or just stopping? |
| 03:44.14 | fletchyy | Sec I will repaste with updates first |
| 03:45.23 | ZorbaTHut | fletchyy, there's a few cases in WoW where calling a function causing something to happen "eventually", and you have to catch a message of some kind and continue in order to queue up a long process |
| 03:45.40 | ZorbaTHut | TakeInboxItem might very well be one of those |
| 03:45.44 | fletchyy | If I inserted a DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(attachmentIndex); to use as a stub on line 12.5, then it proved that the loop was executing |
| 03:45.57 | fletchyy | I have read that TakeInboxItem is asynchronous |
| 03:45.59 | A-KO | it's possible ZorbaTHut, I know BuyItem() function is not one though |
| 03:46.01 | fletchyy | So perhaps that is why |
| 03:46.14 | fletchyy | Although, how would i go about adding these tasks to a stack? |
| 03:46.16 | A-KO | I would imagine TakeInboxItem and BuyItem would be similar |
| 03:46.19 | fletchyy | Since lua cant wait |
| 03:46.27 | A-KO | fletchyy: you would have to listen for the event |
| 03:46.28 | fletchyy | http://pastebin.com/m1ff07800 is the lastest btw |
| 03:46.32 | fletchyy | Ahh |
| 03:46.40 | fletchyy | The event of getting the item? |
| 03:46.44 | A-KO | yeah |
| 03:46.54 | fletchyy | Got a link for me or shall i just google wow events in general? |
| 03:46.56 | A-KO | if ZorbaTHut is correct, which is possible, I mean, that loop should work |
| 03:46.59 | A-KO | wowprogramming.com :P |
| 03:47.10 | fletchyy | Thanks =D Havent really looked on that site, only wowwiki |
| 03:47.25 | fletchyy | It would make sense considering the source for postal had a sort of "que" set up |
| 03:47.36 | fletchyy | and several OnEvents, I just wasnt sure what they were used for |
| 03:47.41 | Jerub | queue |
| 03:48.11 | A-KO | fletchyy: just turn on the debug to catch all events and open your mail and loot something |
| 03:48.16 | A-KO | and see if an event fires, which it probably does |
| 03:49.09 | fletchyy | Ok sweet =D |
| 03:49.15 | fletchyy | And if it does...next time catch that event? |
| 03:49.27 | fletchyy | Not sure what to do after that but Im sure that website may explain it |
| 03:50.38 | Iriel | You can do /dtevents to show events as they happen |
| 03:51.41 | Iriel | Sorry /eventtrace |
| 03:51.47 | Iriel | (Got to remember which addon that's in) |
| 03:54.48 | fletchyy | :D |
| 03:54.50 | fletchyy | Thank you |
| 03:55.39 | fletchyy | BBl with updates |
| 03:55.42 | fletchyy | afk |
| 03:59.29 | A-KO | heh |
| 03:59.33 | A-KO | we lost one of our top DPS |
| 03:59.43 | A-KO | 'cause he got sat on a 10 man to someone who dies repeatedly to shit in 25 |
| 04:00.12 | Shirik | hahaha.... I intentionally set up my server in an insecure configuration for a second to do something |
| 04:00.20 | Shirik | Sorry Dave, I can't let you do that... |
| 04:00.20 | Shirik | It seems that you have chosen to not use the authentication functionality of the CGIs. |
| 04:00.20 | Shirik | I don't want to be personally responsible for what may happen as a result of allowing unauthorized users to issue commands to Nagios,so you'll have to disable this safeguard if you are really stubborn and want to invite trouble. |
| 04:00.37 | Shirik | ^ win error message |
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| 04:01.41 | cbreak | nice. :) |
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| 04:55.41 | Shirik | I love windows server |
| 04:55.59 | Shirik | For the last 10 days I've logged into it, it says "Your password expires today. Please press ctrl+alt+del to change it..." |
| 04:56.06 | Shirik | so much for expiring today... |
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| 05:14.23 | Shirik | rofl ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:14.27 | Shirik | I'm looking at my router configuration |
| 05:14.35 | Shirik | and I see in it port forwarding configuration for "RA3" |
| 05:14.40 | Shirik | take a wild guess at what that is |
| 05:16.15 | Milyardo | A sign that you've been using that router for too long? |
| 05:16.30 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 05:16.39 | Shirik | no, he's been mad that I can't find my RA3 CD :P |
| 05:16.47 | Milyardo | Ahhh |
| 05:16.53 | Shirik | Also |
| 05:16.56 | DWSR | RA3? |
| 05:16.58 | Shirik | I'm really good at this server administration stuff |
| 05:17.26 | Shirik | After 1 hour 12 minutes I have managed to alleviate the 7 "CRITICAL - Socket timeout after 10 seconds " messages |
| 05:17.38 | Shirik | Instead, I now have 7 "UNKNOWN - NSClient - ERROR: Invalid password. " |
| 05:18.04 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 05:18.08 | Shirik | I am best IT ever |
| 05:22.54 | DWSR | orly? |
| 05:23.09 | Shirik | ya |
| 05:23.22 | Shirik | takes me 1 hour to get server from completely down to mostly down |
| 05:30.04 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: does this mean ScytheBlade1wants to get schooled in RA3? |
| 05:30.08 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:30.28 | frontendloader | is there an acelib that has recipe compositions for every profession skill? |
| 05:30.30 | Thunder_Child | i can oblige, i was just playing it as a matter of fact |
| 05:30.37 | DWSR | frontendloader: no. |
| 05:30.54 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: do you have the game installed? |
| 05:30.55 | DWSR | you should check ackisrecipelist. |
| 05:30.57 | Shirik | no Thunder_Child |
| 05:32.01 | frontendloader | thats more for actually finding recipes from vendors drops though isn't it? |
| 05:32.17 | DWSR | no. |
| 05:32.19 | Shirik | anyway, yay, RECOVERY - buildserver;Uptime;OK;HARD;3;System Uptime - 8 day(s) 0 hour(s) 43 minute(s) |
| 05:32.25 | Shirik | Total time to resolve problem: Less than two hours |
| 05:32.29 | Shirik | That qualifies me for school IT, right? |
| 05:33.46 | DWSR | absolutely. |
| 05:34.21 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: you dont need the disk, just the key |
| 05:34.27 | Shirik | I don't have it installed |
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| 05:34.38 | Thunder_Child | i mean to install it |
| 05:34.48 | Shirik | well I don't have the key either lol |
| 05:34.51 | Shirik | it's with the disc wherever it is |
| 05:34.58 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 05:35.22 | Thunder_Child | guess i will just have to go fight ScytheBlade1 when he is free |
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| 05:52.50 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe-DnbB_KF4&feature=player_embedded |
| 05:53.34 | Wobin | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/201001/errord/cnnperfectten.png |
| 05:54.21 | Shirik | Can someone do me a favor and go to fisheye.shiibot.com and tell me what HTTP status code they get? |
| 05:54.52 | Mr_Rabies | 503 |
| 05:55.08 | kdtresh | ^^ |
| 05:55.22 | Shirik | Why the hell is this software reading HTTP OK - HTTP/1.1 302 Found - 0.047 second response time |
| 05:55.23 | Shirik | .... |
| 05:56.57 | Milyardo | Perhaps because the exception is cuaght by the software you're using |
| 05:57.18 | Shirik | bah I figured it out |
| 05:57.28 | Shirik | who the hell makes two different parameters, one for IP and one for host |
| 05:57.39 | Shirik | and furthermore, why doesn't it give you an error for using a hostname with the IP one |
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| 06:05.09 | Shirik | ok, I officially win |
| 06:05.13 | Shirik | that means I am eligible for sleep |
| 06:11.25 | DWSR | Assertion failed. |
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| 06:12.11 | Adys | aw man |
| 06:12.20 | Adys | theres a battle bear on the AH for only 50k gold |
| 06:12.38 | DWSR | you mean the armani war bear? |
| 06:12.42 | Adys | no |
| 06:12.44 | Adys | big battle bear |
| 06:12.58 | NightHawkTheSane | armani makes bears now? :P |
| 06:13.03 | DWSR | amani* |
| 06:13.05 | DWSR | :P |
| 06:13.06 | DWSR | Whatever. |
| 06:13.22 | Adys | ~nighthawkthesane++ |
| 06:13.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, it'd be one well dressed bear |
| 06:13.35 | DWSR | Absolutely. |
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| 06:23.38 | Shirik | (01:10:21) (DWSR) Assertion failed. |
| 06:23.42 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:23.52 | Shirik | I pcall my sleep |
| 06:24.15 | Shirik | while shirik:IsHappy() do pcall(sleep) end |
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| 06:50.06 | Adys | someone remind me |
| 06:50.15 | Wobin | To get to the other side |
| 06:50.15 | Adys | whats the hit cap, in %, for a mage? |
| 06:50.24 | Wobin | what spec? |
| 06:50.28 | Adys | fire |
| 06:50.36 | Adys | i dont have any hit talent |
| 06:53.46 | Adys | some app.. i dont know if its wine, kwin, wow or opengl or i dunno |
| 06:54.04 | Adys | some app keeps slugging out window focus when wow is open |
| 06:54.06 | ZorbaTHut | 17, I believe |
| 06:54.14 | Adys | cheers |
| 06:54.19 | ZorbaTHut | minus one if draenei, three if you have some talent, three if you have some raid buff |
| 06:54.32 | Adys | yeah Im almost at 19 |
| 06:54.59 | Adys | any other winer has the same problem? |
| 06:55.15 | Adys | everytime I focus another window, shit freezes for half a second |
| 06:55.26 | Adys | when i do a gxrestart it goes back to normal for a whiel |
| 06:55.28 | Adys | while |
| 07:02.49 | Ancu | I saw a vid of the artus fight! That looks so awsome! I just hope I get to do it before cata releases |
| 07:11.01 | Adys | Artus? |
| 07:11.05 | Adys | are you joking or what? |
| 07:11.24 | Ancu | arthus* |
| 07:11.30 | Jerub | Arthas. |
| 07:11.32 | Adys | try harder |
| 07:11.43 | Jerub | you know, every single plot blah blah blah in wotlk has had him in it. |
| 07:11.53 | Ancu | screw capitals :P I live in a free country |
| 07:11.59 | Jerub | .... |
| 07:12.00 | Adys | ... |
| 07:12.07 | Jerub | Adys: me give up |
| 07:12.12 | Ancu | oh wait, its an a |
| 07:12.22 | Ancu | i realy thought it was a u |
| 07:12.50 | airtonix | Adys, you might want to check your wines regedit keys for directx (settign per app reg keys is also a neat way to keep it clean ) |
| 07:12.58 | Ancu | are th us is how its pronounced... |
| 07:13.00 | Adys | it's not using directx |
| 07:13.07 | Adys | no |
| 07:13.07 | airtonix | Adys, doesn't matter |
| 07:13.10 | Adys | just |
| 07:13.10 | Adys | no |
| 07:13.15 | Adys | Arthus is pronounced like Anus |
| 07:13.20 | Adys | Arthas is pronounced like Badass |
| 07:13.27 | Adys | theres a fucking difference right there |
| 07:13.28 | airtonix | Adys, it still runs through wine and hence will obey the reg keys under the wine tree |
| 07:13.43 | Adys | airtonix: opengl will not, ever, call directx code |
| 07:13.59 | airtonix | Adys, http://wiki.winehq.org/UsefulRegistryKeys |
| 07:14.05 | Adys | I know those |
| 07:14.12 | Adys | but I'm having doubts it's actually wine |
| 07:14.14 | airtonix | Adys, AppDefaults |
| 07:14.16 | Adys | I'm thinking kwin |
| 07:14.38 | airtonix | i've never used kde while playing 3d game in wine |
| 07:15.01 | airtonix | Adys, maybe check the key binding settings relatingto window management? |
| 07:15.15 | Adys | its not keybinds, even when i clickfocus |
| 07:15.39 | airtonix | only when it looses focus then ? |
| 07:15.50 | Adys | any window while wow is open |
| 07:15.59 | Adys | when I swap focus from any window to any other window |
| 07:17.03 | airtonix | so have you tried using another window manger (openbox wold be the smallest in file size to install and would not require millions of libs) |
| 07:17.27 | Adys | i got metacity installed, ill try in a sec |
| 07:17.37 | airtonix | also , does kwin by chance do compositing |
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| 07:18.02 | airtonix | ( i assume you are using kde 4.3) |
| 07:18.21 | Adys | 4.4 |
| 07:19.35 | Adys | yeha seems to be working fine with metacity and openbox |
| 07:20.55 | airtonix | Adys, do you have any opengl regkeys set ? |
| 07:21.07 | Adys | no* |
| 07:22.02 | airtonix | if you still want to keep using kwin then my assumption would be to look at setting some there, personally i just used gnome or openbox when i was playing wow |
| 07:23.01 | airtonix | (my assumption is that plasma does compositing in a slightly different way to compiz or metacity compositing) |
| 07:23.55 | Dagmar | Likely a matter of compiz and openGL apps not getting along well |
| 07:24.11 | airtonix | compiz works fine for me when i was playing wow |
| 07:24.46 | airtonix | but we didnt ask if adys was running compiz nor what gfx card adys was using or the driver versions |
| 07:25.41 | Ancu | speaking of 4.x, I have 5NEDs(Non Existent Dollars) that the 4.0 release patch will be in the 3 week of november |
| 07:26.08 | Adys | Im running kwin |
| 07:26.13 | Adys | and its likely because of compositing |
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| 07:27.30 | Ancu | What? No one else wants to join the pot on the 4.0 patch release? |
| 07:28.03 | Dagmar | That's an idea that would be worthy of a website |
| 07:28.13 | Adys | totally |
| 07:28.26 | Dagmar | Damnit |
| 07:28.32 | Dagmar | I'm not joking either |
| 07:28.41 | Ancu | lol |
| 07:28.55 | Dagmar | You could make some google adwords dollars there |
| 07:29.07 | Dagmar | I don't have time to set such a thing up |
| 07:29.36 | Ancu | I'm starting a podcast, I'm not going for it either |
| 07:30.23 | Ancu | Free for the taking Adys! Want to make a site where people can bet on the release date of patch 4.0? |
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| 07:31.12 | Dagmar | Might wanna require all NED bets be one month in the future or more, maybe |
| 07:32.20 | Dagmar | ...with the first person to pick that day and tie their registration to the name of the toon to be called the winner, the winner |
| 07:33.00 | Ancu | 500 in game G prize XD |
| 07:33.16 | Dagmar | No way I know of to do that without goldfarmers. Bleh |
| 07:33.30 | Ancu | Ni Hao |
| 07:33.35 | Dagmar | People on yer server would maybe recognize yer name if you got it tho |
| 07:33.45 | Dagmar | Such a thing could garner quite a bit of attention |
| 07:34.29 | Ancu | Your gona end up doing it, aren't you dagmar |
| 07:34.45 | Dagmar | Of course 96pt Impact for the bit that says "DO NOT USE YOUR FREAKING BATTLE.NET PASSWORD FOR THIS DAMNIT" |
| 07:35.04 | Dagmar | No I seriously don't have the time right now |
| 07:35.34 | Ancu | awwww, why not, I have an authenticator |
| 07:35.34 | Dagmar | If I'm going to have the bike reskinned for spring I have to start taking the body panels off and making patterns |
| 07:35.59 | Dagmar | Sewing pleather is time consumptive |
| 07:36.09 | Ancu | Wait, are you saying you have a life? |
| 07:36.14 | Dagmar | Yes, I actually do. |
| 07:36.41 | Dagmar | It tones down when the outside weather becomes anathmatical to human life, but I get out of the house and do stuff |
| 07:36.58 | Ancu | 0_0 You are better then me *awe* master, what is the answer to life the universe and everything |
| 07:37.36 | Dagmar | Always doing pre-flight checks before going riding on something that has no seat belt and only two wheels |
| 07:37.47 | Jerub | if i were making a wow website, i would use only openid. |
| 07:38.06 | Jerub | no passwords ;) |
| 07:39.06 | Ancu | *evil* That can be fun! |
| 07:39.09 | Dagmar | Not a bad idea, that |
| 07:39.23 | Dagmar | It would take some of the admin overhead of resetting people's passwords off the table |
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| 07:47.28 | airtonix | Dagmar, just to confirm... i am not to use my battle.net password ? |
| 07:48.11 | airtonix | pinkfluffybunniesonfire |
| 07:49.16 | Ancu | If my password where not one of only 2 that I use I would feel free to tell you it. Because I have an authenticator |
| 07:50.11 | airtonix | actually my password is omnomnom |
| 07:50.44 | airtonix | selling password obfuscation crumb "nom" |
| 07:51.25 | airtonix | would be slightly amusing to see omnomnomnom instead of **** in your password field as an obfuscation method |
| 07:52.03 | Milyardo | even more amusing if it were hunter2 |
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| 07:53.11 | fletchyy | lmao |
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| 07:57.25 | Dagmar | It would be bad because shared webspaces invariably get hacked |
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| 08:13.50 | Fisker | kisses Shirik |
| 08:14.09 | mikma | gayyyyy |
| 08:14.30 | Ancu | wow, this is late for you isn't it fisker? |
| 08:15.26 | Fisker | no |
| 08:18.26 | Elkano | ok, Fisker, that's it... I always expected you to be in love with someone else... but why out of all people in here did it have to be Shirik? :( |
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| 08:20.16 | Fisker | i'm a jerk |
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| 09:00.06 | Dagmar | Selling students doesn't have a big profit margin |
| 09:00.11 | Dagmar | wrong channel |
| 09:03.15 | Fisker | reports Dagmar to the police for human traficking |
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| 09:05.58 | Dagmar | Nah someone from work was talking about having come up with a great idea, and I was just snarking at them |
| 09:06.10 | Dagmar | We had to take all the paintings down while they repaint the office |
| 09:06.20 | Dagmar | He's planning on putting up broken image icon placeholders. |
| 09:07.01 | Dagmar | Personally I think it would be hilarious if we could get that painted on the walls _behind_ where these will go up, without anyone in management noticing. |
| 09:09.11 | nevcairiel | haha that would be awesome |
| 09:09.26 | nevcairiel | geek'ish, but awesome |
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| 09:13.48 | Dagmar | Well, we're an IT shop with like 3,000 machines under one roof |
| 09:14.06 | Dagmar | Possibly more than that. I Don't really know how large ACCRE's cluster is for sure offhand |
| 09:14.32 | Dagmar | A bit too late to worry about how geeky we look |
| 09:27.47 | Adys | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/5/ |
| 09:28.39 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/698/ |
| 09:29.05 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/368815128 |
| 09:33.00 | NightHawkTheSane | http://i.imgur.com/2Z7mo.jpg |
| 09:33.41 | Wobin | Kir kir KIRBY EVOLUTION! |
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| 09:34.23 | olafski | gotta love kirby |
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| 10:06.57 | Dagmar | Yep. Looks like the auction house is going the way of the dodo |
| 10:08.19 | Arrowmaster | its going to forever be the subject of cloning experiments? |
| 10:08.58 | Dagmar | No, it's going to be a tool for the chinese, therefore I'll have no use for it |
| 10:09.05 | Dagmar | WTF is with Ensidia |
| 10:09.26 | Dagmar | Are they really so stupid as to think no one remembers what they posted to the forums, and what is currently posted on their website *don't match up* |
| 10:09.43 | nevcairiel | yes, they are. |
| 10:10.03 | Dagmar | They're just begging for every other player to come out of the woodwork against htem with that bullshit |
| 10:11.31 | krka | Dagmar: no more AH? link plz |
| 10:11.47 | Dagmar | krka: If they're opening it to bots, I'm not going to bother using it anymore |
| 10:11.55 | krka | link? |
| 10:12.01 | Dagmar | bluetracker |
| 10:12.02 | nevcairiel | its already open to bots |
| 10:12.09 | nevcairiel | who cares if those are ingame or out of game |
| 10:12.14 | Dagmar | For one, I do. |
| 10:12.16 | krka | more specific link? |
| 10:12.17 | zenzio | dude, Fisker, you have some crazy countrymen |
| 10:12.32 | Dagmar | Just because it can be done currently with a ToS violation and a lot of effort, doesn't mean it's okay |
| 10:12.41 | Dagmar | Making it easier to bot doesn't make it any LESS okay either |
| 10:13.02 | Arrowmaster | what does ensidia have posted on the forums and their site that differs? |
| 10:13.20 | Dagmar | Giving people XML feeds of the data is oen thing, but letting them buy/sell without ever logging in and thusly having almost zero barrier to entry for botting is just stupid. |
| 10:13.35 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, for one thing on the forums they said _all_ their rogues use saronite bombs in their rotation |
| 10:13.40 | Dagmar | Like it's some standard thing. |
| 10:13.42 | nevcairiel | I dont think you'll be able to sell |
| 10:14.02 | Dagmar | Yet their website just shows the one rogue using them. |
| 10:14.03 | nevcairiel | buy probably |
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| 10:14.26 | Dagmar | Another obvious tell-tale is that there's strangely no video |
| 10:14.42 | Dagmar | They've been very happy to show eveyrone a video of every other "first"t they got |
| 10:15.02 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt be surprised if a GM actually watched their kill, too |
| 10:15.09 | Dagmar | I suspect a video of a rogue firing grenades nowhere near the boss might well hurt the argument they're trying to promote |
| 10:15.31 | olafski | don't the logs show the grenades hurting the boss? |
| 10:15.42 | Kalroth | krka: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22748781945 |
| 10:16.07 | Dagmar | Exploiting, plus taking another petty little pot-shot at Blizzard about it == no class |
| 10:16.22 | Arrowmaster | what do you expect them to do when blizzard doesnt put it up on the PTR for them to master before its released |
| 10:16.37 | olafski | for them to *test* |
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| 10:16.48 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: You remember what happened the last time? |
| 10:16.49 | olafski | I'll still be using the AH though.. not gonna cry in /trade if I need something |
| 10:16.59 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 10:17.18 | Dagmar | They spent weeks "testing" and then when the content went live they acted like little bitches and accused Blizzard of making everything too easy |
| 10:17.24 | Arrowmaster | i was only around for wrath release where they cleared naxx in 3 days of release |
| 10:17.43 | nevcairiel | technically that wasnt so hard for naxx |
| 10:17.53 | nevcairiel | once we had enough people at 80, we cleared it as well |
| 10:17.55 | Arrowmaster | no it wasnt |
| 10:17.56 | Dagmar | Either way, it was a crap dishonorable thing to do |
| 10:17.57 | nevcairiel | they just leveld faster |
| 10:18.12 | [Edward] | god damn, have we got enough drama yet |
| 10:18.21 | Corrodias | and why is my name wrong :( |
| 10:18.44 | Dagmar | Were you perhaps [Edward] in a past life? |
| 10:18.53 | zenzio | Corrodias: maybe you were just having a Twilight moment |
| 10:18.57 | Corrodias | hah |
| 10:19.29 | Corrodias | it's a name for some RPing i participate in on weekends. no idea why mirc decided to make that my secondary name, though. it's supposed to be Corrodias2. |
| 10:19.30 | Dagmar | eyw |
| 10:20.04 | zenzio | IIRC, mIRC changes your primary/secondary nicks whenever you use /nick |
| 10:20.31 | Dagmar | Wow. The Ensidia guys need to just stop posting |
| 10:20.53 | Dagmar | That original forum response said the bug happened every time to them, but one of their snippy little blog posts disagrees with that, too |
| 10:21.15 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt waste my time reading that all |
| 10:21.21 | nevcairiel | They got banned, and they deserved it |
| 10:21.23 | nevcairiel | end of story |
| 10:21.49 | Kalroth | The internet nitpicking everything Ensidia posts is new and interesting. I wish to subscribe to this newsletter. |
| 10:22.12 | NightHawkTheSane | can someone remind me why i give a fuck? |
| 10:22.34 | nevcairiel | you do? =P |
| 10:22.39 | zenzio | ... so there's talk of a Warhammer 40k MMOG... is 40k somehow different from the existing Warhammer Online? |
| 10:22.48 | NightHawkTheSane | no, see, that's the.. bah |
| 10:22.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 10:22.50 | purl | throws nevcairiel's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 10:22.50 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 10:22.55 | Dagmar | More lasers, fewer rainbows maybe |
| 10:22.58 | zenzio | NightHawkTheSane: this is IRC, we don't give a damn if you find it interesting |
| 10:23.12 | Dagmar | It's got a chance as long as um, neither Funcom nor Cryptic make it |
| 10:23.16 | Dagmar | O wait |
| 10:23.39 | Fisker | i hate people |
| 10:23.40 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzio: my point was what, who cares? kvetching about it here is just as bad as trolling on the forums. |
| 10:23.41 | olafski | zenzio: yes, it's futuristic ;) |
| 10:23.45 | Fisker | healer left just as we engaged first boss |
| 10:23.51 | Fisker | fucking hilt farmers |
| 10:23.53 | zenzio | Dagmar: I don't know; Funcom may not make WoW challengers (who does?), but they manage to keep things sustainable - Anarchy Online is still running |
| 10:24.10 | zenzio | Fisker: http://www.berlingske.dk/danmark/computerspiller-lokkede-noegenfotos-fra-boern |
| 10:24.17 | Dagmar | I think that might be a matter of those people refusing to go anywhere because AO works |
| 10:24.20 | Fisker | old and fake zenzio |
| 10:24.29 | olafski | hm kungen reminded me about nefarian's one hour attempts.. nice |
| 10:24.31 | Dagmar | They've been doing nothing but stinkers since |
| 10:25.05 | zenzio | in what sense, their online games or their games in general? |
| 10:25.31 | Dagmar | They've made non-online games? |
| 10:25.52 | zenzio | yeah, but they're not usually very big outside of Norway |
| 10:26.33 | zenzio | reason why I asked is since their only released online game since AO was AoC; though they do have The Secret World in the works.. not sure what to think of that one yet |
| 10:28.29 | Arrowmaster | what was that recent AO expansion like? |
| 10:28.50 | zenzio | can't say, haven't played it since Alien Invasion |
| 10:29.27 | Dagmar | Oh wait yes I thought there was one I couldn't quite remember |
| 10:29.36 | Arrowmaster | neither have i but it was a very large gap between AI and that new one, although i only played on a froob account |
| 10:29.53 | zenzio | true |
| 10:29.56 | Arrowmaster | tshirt and all |
| 10:30.01 | zenzio | hehe |
| 10:30.27 | Dagmar | I don't know what was going on over there with Dreamfall, but I generally think you shouldn't just call development to a storyline game to a halt on a calendar date and release it incomplete |
| 10:30.42 | Dagmar | It was pretty damn obvious that's what happened with Dreamfall. |
| 10:30.44 | zenzio | I completely agree |
| 10:30.54 | Arrowmaster | dreamfall? |
| 10:30.54 | Dagmar | It was either that, or they have really crap storyline writers |
| 10:31.07 | zenzio | sequel to The Longest Journey |
| 10:31.17 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah it was a single-player game they made that just *REEKED* of them stopping it about 3/4 of the way through |
| 10:31.33 | Dagmar | Like, if you bought a fantasy novel and the last 1/3 of it was missing, you'd know |
| 10:33.31 | Dagmar | What they did release was really next-gen stuff, too, which is why it was so annoying |
| 10:34.20 | Dagmar | The little purple gorilla bot was somethin' else |
| 10:34.24 | Dagmar | It made me want one |
| 10:34.26 | Corrodias | the games didn't review all that great, probably for those reasons |
| 10:35.10 | Dagmar | I'd say so |
| 10:35.23 | Dagmar | If they'd completed it, it would have easily been one of the best for the whole year |
| 10:36.08 | Corrodias | Assassin's Creed obviously lacked any sort of ending for its sci-fi component, but that was intentional |
| 10:36.16 | Dagmar | It was coherent tho |
| 10:36.24 | Corrodias | at least we have to assume it was intentional |
| 10:36.30 | Dagmar | Dreamfall just kinda dispersed |
| 10:37.01 | Dagmar | Multiple plotlines unresolved at random points along their arc. |
| 10:37.11 | Corrodias | oh awesome. :| |
| 10:37.14 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 10:37.50 | Dagmar | It definitely felt like they hit a point on the calendar where they just said "Okay we have to stop putting in what we wanted, knock out the bugs on what we do have, send it out the door, and hope no one notices." |
| 10:37.59 | Dagmar | Either that or they pay their script writers by the word |
| 10:38.57 | Dagmar | They'd literally just introduced a entirely new environement and a few new major characters and then *poof* about 30 minutes later the game ends |
| 10:39.15 | Corrodias | 9_9 |
| 10:39.23 | Dagmar | If it were a book people'd be asking the publisher what happened to the last chapters |
| 10:39.38 | Corrodias | of course it's not unusual to introduce a new area - a simple one, anyway - for the ending, but not new characters |
| 10:43.18 | zenzio | " |
| 10:43.19 | zenzio | Raylene Deck, a level designer, spent the most amount of time working on a single area of the game (2,161.43 hours) |
| 10:43.19 | zenzio | ." - so that's 90 days, or 270 days if you count only 8-hour workdays o_O |
| 10:43.41 | zenzio | bah, why didn't it strip the newlines.... stupid copy-paste |
| 10:45.00 | Dagmar | Clearly a lot of work went into the release |
| 10:45.07 | Dagmar | The thing was cool, end to end |
| 10:45.17 | zenzio | (that quote was about Mass Effect 2, by the way) |
| 10:45.26 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 10:45.35 | Dagmar | I'm still not quite done with what I guess is the final mission in that |
| 10:45.59 | Corrodias | i'm replaying ME1 because i couldn't remember jack shit about the character interactions |
| 10:46.00 | Dagmar | I'm gonna have to wait until I've got about 2 hours together to do that |
| 10:46.30 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm going to finish this and then go back and finish ME1 (again) and then import that character |
| 10:46.42 | Corrodias | since i want to move quickly, i'm continuing the career from level 50 on Normal (so we murder everything very effectively) and i'm also abusing the SloMo console command to speed up the game during slow parts |
| 10:46.52 | Corrodias | i've got 3x and 6x game speeds bound to keys |
| 10:47.11 | Corrodias | elevator ride? no thanks, i'll take the express tube! |
| 10:47.20 | Dagmar | Those can be sped up? |
| 10:47.25 | Dagmar | Holy crap |
| 10:47.57 | Corrodias | absolutely. the dialogue pieces play over the top of each other, but if you don't care about not hearing them (or if they're a repeat of something you've heard) you can just zoom down at whatever pace you want |
| 10:48.09 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lul-Y8vSr0I&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:48.12 | Corrodias | with the pc version, at least. |
| 10:48.21 | Dagmar | I can't help but feel like the Citadel is just a giant-sized DFW, and somewhere in there is an elevator with the corpses of three people who picked the A to H gate elevator and starved to death |
| 10:48.41 | zenzio | I must say I was disappointed about the Citadel in ME2 compared to in ME1 |
| 10:48.54 | Dagmar | I couldn't find the hooker anywhere |
| 10:48.56 | Dagmar | Shucks |
| 10:49.11 | Dagmar | s/hooker/consort/; |
| 10:49.38 | Dagmar | Corrodias: You can spacebar your way through the dialog |
| 10:50.03 | Corrodias | yes, and i definitely do that a lot, too |
| 10:50.09 | Dagmar | I just turn subtitles on for the times when I have to go through the same things again, or if things are moving slowly |
| 10:50.23 | Dagmar | *spacebar*read-read*spacebar*read-read* |
| 10:50.27 | Corrodias | <Alliance Shop Guy> Hey, Comman- <Shepard> Just show me the stuff, jackass. |
| 10:50.52 | Dagmar | <NPC> Ah but you have to use the console over there if you want to buy anything you imperialist human |
| 10:51.12 | Dagmar | I gotta say tho the mood on the Citadel makes me want to go back to ME1 and try to keep the original council |
| 10:51.22 | Dagmar | Just to see if they won't turn into fascist assholes |
| 10:51.56 | Corrodias | took some renegade choices, did ya |
| 10:52.14 | Dagmar | Dunno. Some people are saying it's reading as the default storyline in ME2 for me |
| 10:52.25 | Dagmar | I just know that I don't care for the crazy paranoid security crap going on |
| 10:52.49 | Corrodias | i don't think it's meant to have a "default" |
| 10:52.53 | Dagmar | I was rather hoping some uniformed security personell would come to ask me pointed questions like the VI promised so I could express my displeasure more succinctly |
| 10:53.13 | Dagmar | "I'm not a terrorist. I'm shooting you because you're jerks" |
| 10:54.09 | Dagmar | I am very much not a fan of cover-ups |
| 10:54.41 | Dagmar | I'll only put up with them ignoring the Reapers for so long |
| 10:55.27 | Dagmar | Plus I've already lost one guy I didn't want to lose during the suicide mission |
| 10:55.33 | zenzio | I keep wondering what the three stores in the Citadel will do when they realise I told them all they were my favourite |
| 10:55.34 | Dagmar | I happened to like lizard boy |
| 10:55.48 | Dagmar | zenzio: Probably continue to take your creidts |
| 10:55.50 | zenzio | my favourite companion would have to be Garrus |
| 10:56.04 | Dagmar | I like Jack, personally. |
| 10:56.12 | Corrodias | in my first ME1 game, i rolled with the Broforce. Garrus and Wrex 4ever. |
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| 10:56.28 | Dagmar | ...although when I saw Garrus again I kinda whooped with excitement oevr here |
| 10:56.38 | Corrodias | lol |
| 10:56.43 | Dagmar | I can deal with his kind of tunnel vision |
| 10:56.45 | Arrowmaster | garrus and wrex had a lot of good conversations |
| 10:57.02 | Dagmar | I won't take Miranda and Jack out at the same time |
| 10:57.17 | Dagmar | ...although I would like to, the chance of a cat-fight is non-trivial. |
| 10:57.30 | Corrodias | i don't really know who they are, but i'll find out eventually |
| 10:57.30 | zenzio | haha |
| 10:57.38 | Dagmar | There were a few times in DA:O I though I was going to have to stop and break one up |
| 10:57.43 | zenzio | I mostly used Garrus and Miranda, though I switched Miranda sometimes |
| 10:57.51 | Dagmar | Corrodias: You'll like Jack. |
| 10:58.15 | zenzio | Jack was too "badass" for my taste |
| 10:59.20 | Corrodias | we'll see. i owe DA:O at least one more playthrough, too. |
| 10:59.38 | Corrodias | with the player model replaced with a little girl. the screenshots are going to be fantastic. |
| 10:59.55 | Dagmar | zenzio: Generally I picked the two people I thought would be the most useful |
| 11:00.07 | Dagmar | I definitely use the heck out of Mordin when it comes to dealing with the Geth |
| 11:00.13 | Dagmar | ...or anyone with a lot of robots |
| 11:00.31 | Corrodias | i think i'll have to mix and match members in ME2 because they give you 12 and you can only take 2 at a time, from what i understand. |
| 11:00.42 | Dagmar | You will. |
| 11:00.51 | Corrodias | i sure as hell ain't playing it through 6 times. |
| 11:01.06 | Dagmar | Things are greatly improved by taking people with skills useful and relevant to that mission |
| 11:01.09 | zenzio | Dagmar: Garrus just really fits how I like my companions, but other than him I tried to take someone I thought would be helpful too |
| 11:01.22 | Dagmar | zenzio: yeah Garrus I _trust_ to get things done |
| 11:01.56 | Arrowmaster | my ME1 hardcore playthrough is kinda fucked, tali and kaiden on my engineer |
| 11:02.01 | zenzio | man, I should replay ME1... since I'll be without Internet at home until Monday at least |
| 11:09.40 | Dagmar | OOooo |
| 11:09.41 | Dagmar | Ouch |
| 11:09.58 | Dagmar | From the description of Season of Mystery: "The hidden object genre meets historical fiction for the first time" |
| 11:10.16 | Dagmar | I think it kinda breaks the point of those games if you up and acknowledge that it's a "hidden objects" hunt |
| 11:10.16 | zenzio | sounds... puzzling |
| 11:11.36 | Dagmar | I can't even remember the names of the ones I played in the mid 90's |
| 11:11.58 | Dagmar | Most struggling with the intricacies of faking video playback on a 256 color VGA screen |
| 11:12.39 | Dagmar | The idea was ostensively that you were solving a mystery of some kind, but generally you were just mousing over the screen looking for hotspots |
| 11:13.27 | Dagmar | Once you abstract it and see that the man behind the curtain isn't even wearing pants, a lot of the fun just goes right out of them |
| 11:13.48 | zenzio | hehe |
| 11:14.17 | Dagmar | Drowned God I need to check still works with WINE and there's The Dark Eye as well |
| 11:14.35 | Dagmar | That latter one I will probably ensure my grandkids have access to |
| 11:16.25 | Dagmar | Voice acting by William S. Burroughs, music by Thomas Dolby... storyline by Edgar Allen Poe |
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| 11:18.59 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 11:19.02 | Fisker | why so old and fake? |
| 11:19.24 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-02-05-n86.html |
| 11:19.32 | zenzio | don't know, I just get my news from news sites. Where they get their news is unknown to me |
| 11:22.19 | Fisker | you should read teh news first zenzio |
| 11:22.38 | Corrodias | how can anyone read that? it's in moonspeak. |
| 11:22.40 | zenzio | I read the Norwegian one, just gave you the Danish one it linked to :-p |
| 11:33.35 | olafski | adys: interesting that it seems to find female lookalikes in the middle ;) |
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| 11:49.38 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 11:49.39 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 12:46.20 | Wobin | http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxc4yljXzs1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg |
| 12:46.30 | Wobin | farmville is srs bsnss |
| 12:48.48 | olafski | looks like it |
| 12:48.53 | olafski | I have no clue what it is but I'm intrigued already |
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| 13:02.32 | airtonix | lawl |
| 13:02.51 | airtonix | isn't that a flash game ? |
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| 13:11.00 | Fisker | your mother is a flash game _skywalker |
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| 13:14.08 | airtonix | you are not fisker |
| 13:14.19 | airtonix | the fisker is weal with this one |
| 13:14.22 | airtonix | weak* |
| 13:14.37 | airtonix | this isnt the fisker you're looking for |
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| 13:19.01 | Fisker | you wouldn't airtonix |
| 13:19.15 | airtonix | i am |
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| 13:25.34 | airtonix | giant apes climbing city buildings will mean a large clean up crew bill in the morning |
| 13:25.53 | airtonix | (you know what chimmps do when they feel threatened) |
| 13:33.20 | Fisker | i find it funny that Blizzard have yet to mention the biggest failing of all scam e-mails |
| 13:40.40 | zenzio | the mobile thing? |
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| 13:44.20 | foxlit | Hm, I'm in a group with Jakesully <United>, Tsutey <United>. |
| 13:45.24 | krka | heh |
| 13:45.41 | nevcairiel | They must've leveld recently =P |
| 13:45.44 | krka | name change or just quick leveling? |
| 13:45.53 | Fisker | 1naw zenzio |
| 13:46.09 | Fisker | all account related e-mails from Blizzard have your name in it |
| 13:46.15 | Fisker | as well as username |
| 13:46.45 | zenzio | Fisker: if not the mobile thing, then which scam e-mail were you talking about= |
| 13:46.46 | zenzio | *? |
| 13:47.23 | haste | Fisker: F&F invites don't contain such! |
| 13:47.47 | nevcairiel | I get 100 blizzard scam mails a week |
| 13:47.57 | nevcairiel | 99 of them end up in spam filters, though |
| 13:48.25 | zenzio | my Gmail account got the mobile spam recently (and it got flagged as spam) |
| 13:48.34 | foxlit | http://eu.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=jakesully&searchType=all << meh |
| 13:49.16 | nevcairiel | yiou know, you can report all of them |
| 13:49.26 | Ose | how would I go about patching wow on linux? should I just run the updater in wine like I do with wow? |
| 13:49.29 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I'd rather not. |
| 13:49.57 | foxlit | They could do a lot worse than picking a name from a movie. |
| 13:50.16 | nevcairiel | But reporting people for name violations is fun |
| 13:50.20 | haste | I haven't gotten any blizzard spam :( |
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| 13:57.21 | foxlit | Couldn't find the naming policy last time I looked, actually. |
| 13:58.29 | zenzio | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20421 |
| 13:58.33 | foxlit | And they fixed it now |
| 13:58.35 | olafski | I reported someone's name and all they told me was to put the guy on ignore |
| 13:58.41 | foxlit | Game policies -> naming policy = trivial |
| 13:59.24 | airtonix | new movie about chickens by a guy named : chick bukbogoock |
| 13:59.50 | foxlit | Chicken chicken? Chicken chicken chicken! |
| 14:00.01 | airtonix | its a courtroom thriller |
| 14:00.10 | foxlit | CHICKEN! |
| 14:00.24 | olafski | malkovich malkovich? |
| 14:00.54 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk |
| 14:01.37 | foxlit | Can skip to like 0:35 |
| 14:01.38 | Fisker | that's not account related haste ;3 |
| 14:01.53 | Fisker | and you should know if you were in an F&F alpha |
| 14:02.09 | Fisker | and the cd-key itself can't keylog you so you should learn2website instead |
| 14:03.08 | haste | ah damn, you actually said account related! |
| 14:03.24 | Fisker | i reported someone for spamming meatspin.com (don't go there btw) in trade |
| 14:03.39 | Fisker | the ticket was handled yesterday, and he was online the 3rd, 4th and 5th |
| 14:03.57 | Fisker | you'd think a link like that in the trade channel would incur something more than a warning |
| 14:04.16 | haste | you spin me right round baby right round~ |
| 14:04.26 | Fisker | indeed |
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| 14:06.55 | airtonix | when the polic sell drugs, putting your customers in jail just doesn't seem like good business |
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| 14:43.01 | sylvanaar | do people in jail do less drugs? |
| 14:43.14 | Lopeppeppy | Compared to me? No. |
| 14:43.56 | sylvanaar | i was going to say...are you guys from the EU? |
| 14:44.15 | mikma | buttsecks. |
| 14:44.17 | Lopeppeppy | Generally speaking, there is a drug market in most large prisons, so drug use is not uncommon while serving time. |
| 14:44.30 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 14:44.47 | sylvanaar | and what mikma said |
| 14:45.34 | Lopeppeppy | Where you have bored people, they WILL find ways to keep themselves occupied. |
| 14:47.23 | Maldivia | sounds dirty.... |
| 14:49.12 | sylvanaar | what does being bored sound like (lol - irony) |
| 14:50.09 | sylvanaar | so, how many of you guys still play wow - speaking of drugs, prison and boredom |
| 14:52.02 | Lopeppeppy | I will be again in March, after the hand surgery |
| 14:52.53 | sylvanaar | I think im going to wat for he expac |
| 14:53.31 | sylvanaar | hopefully they will do the author beta thing again |
| 14:53.32 | haste | listen to your heart! don't run away~ |
| 14:53.43 | mikma | meh |
| 14:54.33 | haste | mikma: did you ever listen to the BT song I threw at you a couple of days ago? |
| 14:54.46 | mikma | haste: the one you linked directly at me, i did. and loved it |
| 14:54.53 | haste | :3 |
| 14:54.59 | sylvanaar | BT? |
| 14:55.11 | haste | brian transeau |
| 14:55.22 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6XAtIjBCdg |
| 14:55.48 | haste | I'm kinda dissapointed that he didn't go all experimental on this CD, but I guess his fans love it |
| 14:56.09 | haste | it's the first track on the CD, so I was like: ZOMG CAN IT BE?! due to the start of the song |
| 14:56.44 | haste | too bad I'm not really a fan of his ordinary styles :V |
| 14:59.08 | haste | that being said tho'! |
| 14:59.16 | haste | the transitions between the tracks are amazing |
| 14:59.28 | haste | at least if you like glitch :P |
| 15:00.04 | mikma | i hope the rippers have put the cd online as one image instead of n+1 different mp3's |
| 15:00.27 | haste | it depends |
| 15:00.34 | haste | BTs release on amazon is two tracks |
| 15:00.42 | haste | but the CD version is split gapless |
| 15:00.59 | haste | so most relaeses are the same as the CD |
| 15:03.46 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: got my VAT bill |
| 15:05.05 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_iEY9pSHT0 |
| 15:05.24 | Fisker | :O! |
| 15:05.28 | Fisker | is it over 9000 jnwhiteh ? |
| 15:06.54 | mikma | haste: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/02/theyre_so_talented_little_bird.php |
| 15:07.30 | jnwhiteh | £59.21 |
| 15:07.39 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: Is that covered in the amount you paid me? |
| 15:09.26 | haste | mikma: odd~ |
| 15:15.44 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:16.48 | Fisker | it was 530$ for teh phone right? |
| 15:16.59 | jnwhiteh | umm, let me see how much my account was charged. |
| 15:17.37 | Fisker | if it was then as far as i can make out you got around 20-30£ extra |
| 15:17.43 | jnwhiteh | and all my browsers are locked up |
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| 15:19.07 | Fisker | oh wait there's shipping as well :P |
| 15:19.42 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 15:19.51 | jnwhiteh | the email I forwarded you from google checkout should have the amount I was charged |
| 15:20.05 | jnwhiteh | i'm having issues pulling anything up at the moment |
| 15:20.07 | jnwhiteh | need to reboot |
| 15:22.11 | Legorol | \o/ pala tank nerf, DK tank buff |
| 15:22.14 | Legorol | that's what i love to see! |
| 15:22.20 | Fisker | ok should be $132,35 with shipping, that's ~£84,50 left at the current conversion rate |
| 15:22.30 | Fisker | no Legorol |
| 15:22.33 | Fisker | .o. |
| 15:22.34 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:32.20 | jnwhiteh | The phone was $558.65 including shipping |
| 15:32.32 | jnwhiteh | that's another 92.83 for VAT |
| 15:32.38 | jnwhiteh | lua> = 558.65 + 92.83 |
| 15:32.39 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: 651.48 |
| 15:33.33 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: you forgot the jnwhiteh tax |
| 15:35.46 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: so I owe you $40.52, if I did that correct |
| 15:35.52 | jnwhiteh | err, minus the cost of shipping from UK -> DK |
| 15:35.57 | jnwhiteh | which was what, £4.00? |
| 15:36.55 | sylvanaar | who got the phone? |
| 15:37.00 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: according to my calculations Fisker actually owes you |
| 15:37.20 | sylvanaar | mine have been in a box in my office for over a week waiting for them to process the return |
| 15:38.30 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: Fisker got the phone, it's his =) |
| 15:38.47 | jnwhiteh | omg |
| 15:38.50 | sylvanaar | Fisker how do you like that ball? |
| 15:38.52 | jnwhiteh | i just disabled flash on my machine |
| 15:38.54 | jnwhiteh | and |
| 15:38.56 | jnwhiteh | i can breathe again. |
| 15:39.02 | sylvanaar | i hate flash |
| 15:39.07 | sylvanaar | it needs to die |
| 15:39.09 | mikma | i hate fisker |
| 15:39.27 | sylvanaar | though ironically i like silverlight |
| 15:39.30 | Fisker | it's awesome!1 |
| 15:39.36 | Ackis | best question I'm going to get today: "the ...fluids dont affect her?" |
| 15:40.00 | sylvanaar | Fisker yes, the ball doesnt feel cheaply made at all |
| 15:40.23 | sylvanaar | i admit the glow effect is cool |
| 15:41.01 | sylvanaar | but, they shuold just havee glued it in place - because it cant scroll for shit |
| 15:42.54 | Fisker | i find myself using the trackball more than the touchscreen sometimes :o |
| 15:43.50 | sylvanaar | it would have been cool if they hadnt used such a cheap ball |
| 15:44.23 | sylvanaar | its not smooth, it grinds as you roll it |
| 15:44.27 | Fisker | it's also kinda a shame you can't customize the ball color for notifications |
| 15:44.40 | Fisker | i like that |
| 15:44.48 | Fisker | you know tactile feedback and shit |
| 15:44.59 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 15:45.11 | sylvanaar | that hepatic(sp?) feedback is cool |
| 15:45.12 | batbot | sylvanaar, hepatic is correct. |
| 15:45.35 | sylvanaar | thats neat batrick |
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| 15:47.16 | Fisker | cunt(sp?) |
| 15:47.17 | batbot | Fisker, cunt is correct. |
| 15:47.24 | Fisker | that(sp?) |
| 15:47.24 | batbot | Fisker, that is correct. |
| 15:47.27 | Fisker | hoho |
| 15:47.41 | Fisker | me twolls(sp?) batrick |
| 15:47.41 | batbot | Fisker, tolls, trolls. |
| 15:47.50 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:47.56 | sylvanaar | i think batbot just outdid purl |
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| 15:48.27 | Fisker | shame that Shirik put in that whitelist for batbot |
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| 15:48.35 | Fisker | EDI and I would've had some fun |
| 15:48.46 | sylvanaar | what whitelist |
| 15:48.55 | Fisker | for bots |
| 15:49.02 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 15:49.11 | Fisker | in case some jackass decides to exploit their functions |
| 15:49.48 | Fisker | of course i wouldn't do something like that |
| 15:50.40 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: should I just send the $30 back to you? |
| 15:50.46 | jnwhiteh | or want it somewhere else? |
| 15:51.11 | Ackis | giggles |
| 15:51.27 | Seerah | Ackis giggling made me giggle :) |
| 15:51.32 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:51.46 | sylvanaar | so have you guys looked into the lua 5.2 stuff yet? |
| 15:51.56 | haste | yes |
| 15:52.13 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: yeah |
| 15:52.24 | Ackis | Seerah: I've been told I giggle like a 10 year old girl :( |
| 15:52.33 | Seerah | lol |
| 15:53.01 | sylvanaar | i looke though the changes - the setfenv/getfenv change was pretty big |
| 15:53.10 | Ackis | is 5.2 coming to wow? |
| 15:53.15 | haste | haha, no |
| 15:53.16 | jnwhiteh | not likely |
| 15:53.28 | jnwhiteh | they wouldn't gain anything |
| 15:53.52 | Ackis | what about WAR? same logic as it not coming to wow? |
| 15:54.01 | Fisker | i wonder if they'll do anything after cataclysm |
| 15:54.04 | sylvanaar | well, they rename functions now for no reason |
| 15:54.10 | haste | Ackis: you know, they've only released work copies for Lua 5.2 |
| 15:54.17 | haste | Ackis: not even alpha/beta yet :P |
| 15:54.18 | Fisker | new mmo should be out soon! |
| 15:54.36 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: stop ignoring me =) |
| 15:54.38 | nicoli_s | sc2 fisker? |
| 15:54.43 | Ackis | haste: first thing I heard of 5.2 was about 1 minute ago when sylvanaar mentioned it |
| 15:54.47 | nicoli_s | jnwhiteh wants his money! |
| 15:54.57 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:55.00 | jnwhiteh | i have extra |
| 15:55.04 | jnwhiteh | and want to know what to do with it |
| 15:55.04 | sylvanaar | Ackis you should get the rss feed |
| 15:55.12 | jnwhiteh | while I'm dealing with stuff of that nature |
| 15:55.14 | Ackis | sylvanaar: I has IRC ;) |
| 15:55.21 | Ackis | and now I'm afk for 3 hours for a meeting |
| 15:55.21 | nicoli_s | ill take it jnwhiteh |
| 15:57.33 | sylvanaar | i hvae a great idea for an addon - but i'm almost 100% sure its a TOS violation in principal |
| 15:58.16 | nicoli_s | do it anyways |
| 15:59.12 | sylvanaar | if i can pass data from the game to something else is it a violation? |
| 15:59.55 | jnwhiteh | if it isn't, you still shouldn't do it |
| 16:00.09 | foxlit | *principle. |
| 16:01.22 | jnwhiteh | My computer is really fucking unhappy. |
| 16:01.25 | sylvanaar | i guess it coudl be misused. it was basically a way to make links work without copy/paste or reload ui |
| 16:02.06 | sylvanaar | url links in game -> out |
| 16:03.57 | jnwhiteh | no load |
| 16:04.00 | jnwhiteh | and everything's force close/waiting |
| 16:04.25 | sylvanaar | os? |
| 16:05.42 | Fisker | idk = i don't know jnwhiteh :P |
| 16:05.52 | Fisker | dunno what i would use it for :P |
| 16:05.55 | Fisker | being on paypal and all |
| 16:06.18 | Fisker | nicoli_s does fleshlight accept paypal? |
| 16:07.41 | Fisker | ckknight you should know |
| 16:08.16 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8 |
| 16:08.50 | cog|work | lua> ({"Un'Goro", "Felwood"})[math.random(1,2)] |
| 16:08.55 | lua_bot | cog|work: Felwood |
| 16:10.43 | sylvanaar | maybe he's rebooting |
| 16:11.04 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh did you write the weblua thing on your site yourself? |
| 16:12.08 | nicoli_s | hey, anyone not use their battlefield bad company 2 key? |
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| 16:14.01 | nicoli_s | nm |
| 16:14.34 | Lopeppeppy | Cog, I like Felwood better if I'm on an herbalist character, Un'Goro if I'm on a miner. |
| 16:16.07 | cog|work | that's a good consideration... and in this case, lua_bot picked right =) |
| 16:16.33 | cog|work | (trying to get my scribe to 65 so i can max his inscription) |
| 16:21.44 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: yep |
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| 16:22.20 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: why do you ask? |
| 16:22.31 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh im looking to do something similar at work as an interface to a running application's interpreter |
| 16:23.03 | jnwhiteh | it's really primitive.. just dumps the input to a file which is then called through the sandbox script |
| 16:24.19 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh yeah - its not a tecnical challenge, i am just trying to see if there are already implementations of what I am trying to do |
| 16:25.19 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh my problem is even easier than yours - its single user and no sandboxing |
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| 16:25.56 | jnwhiteh | hehe, then should be pretty straightforward! |
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| 16:26.46 | jnwhiteh | and here we go, with my computer crashing again.. |
| 16:26.49 | jnwhiteh | mufaku. |
| 16:27.30 | Lopeppeppy | When did you last sacrifce a goat, jnwhiteh? |
| 16:27.38 | jnwhiteh | it's been two weeks |
| 16:27.44 | jnwhiteh | the snow has made it hard to get a goat into the building |
| 16:27.56 | jnwhiteh | so I know that's its my own damn fault =/ |
| 16:28.35 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes you can use chickens or rabbits, if you sacrifice more frequently. Easier to carry. |
| 16:28.59 | jnwhiteh | the only chickens I can afford to buy here are the ones I eat for dinner =/ |
| 16:29.08 | jnwhiteh | hrm glibc update on my machine |
| 16:29.14 | jnwhiteh | this can only improve matters >< |
| 16:29.57 | sylvanaar | giblits |
| 16:30.00 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
| 16:30.04 | jnwhiteh | i'm gonna buy a nexus one |
| 16:30.10 | jnwhiteh | and my friend will bring to me when he comes back the UK |
| 16:30.13 | jnwhiteh | maybe |
| 16:30.18 | jnwhiteh | okay, ima gonna reboot and then head out |
| 16:30.23 | jnwhiteh | ttyl =) |
| 16:30.46 | sylvanaar | i should sell mine |
| 16:31.00 | sylvanaar | actually i dont think they are ever going to ask me to send it back |
| 16:31.43 | sylvanaar | they said they had 'computer problems' and are delayed processing my return |
| 16:32.13 | sylvanaar | 2-3 week delay is alot |
| 16:32.38 | nicoli_s | whats wrong with yers? |
| 16:32.46 | sylvanaar | it sucks |
| 16:32.51 | sylvanaar | i dont like it |
| 16:34.06 | sylvanaar | id rather have any of: new iphone, ipad, better android model |
| 16:34.45 | sylvanaar | all of which will probably be out in 4-5 months |
| 16:35.31 | sylvanaar | not tomention minmo7 |
| 16:35.45 | sylvanaar | i guess it'll be a zune phone |
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| 16:36.58 | sylvanaar | being able to develop for a smartphone using .net makes me all tingly inside |
| 16:37.40 | nicoli_s | ya, hopefully itll run silverlight just fine too |
| 16:37.45 | nicoli_s | though id assume it will |
| 16:38.06 | sylvanaar | whatever zune runs |
| 16:38.15 | sylvanaar | XNA i dont know what that is yet |
| 16:38.51 | nicoli_s | xna is like a subset of .net that runs on 360/zune/pc |
| 16:39.13 | sylvanaar | my guess is that you'll be able to use win32 or .net just like on winmo |
| 16:39.16 | nicoli_s | its pretty easy to pick up too, played around with it a little on my 360, got a little demo game together in a few days |
| 16:39.34 | nicoli_s | im hoping theyll give out free zune phones at mix10 this year |
| 16:39.57 | sylvanaar | i never get to go to stuff like that |
| 16:40.14 | nicoli_s | me neither till now, my job is paying! go curse |
| 16:40.39 | sylvanaar | man |
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| 16:41.30 | sylvanaar | do they pay well? |
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| 16:54.01 | Lunessa | Station |
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| 16:57.31 | startitup | hey |
| 16:57.55 | startitup | the new gladius 3.3 program is bugged? i can't seem to click on protraits to switch players, anyone else noticing that? |
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| 16:59.53 | Lunessa | Try using the built-in Arena frames. |
| 17:00.20 | startitup | I do now, but i prefer to use the gladius ones instead? is there gonna be a fix for that anytime soon? |
| 17:00.43 | startitup | I never used the older version of gladius, so i'm not sure if this is a consistent problem. |
| 17:01.05 | Lopeppeppy | You'd have to ask the author specifically, maybe by posting to the download page. Or is the author listed in here to chat with? |
| 17:01.25 | Lunessa | The author isn't a regular here. |
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| 17:02.19 | startitup | Hmm alright, someone already posted something similar on the download page I belive, hopefully he'll address it. |
| 17:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | Never hurts to post your experience too, so the author knows it's not just one person with an issue, but perhaps a larger problem. |
| 17:03.42 | Lopeppeppy | Give all the details you can, maybe your info will help with the solution. |
| 17:08.05 | startitup | consider it done. |
| 17:08.14 | Lopeppeppy | Awesome! |
| 17:08.34 | startitup | wow arena can be so stressful at times, i sholdn't take it seriously, but i can't help it :/ |
| 17:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | If it ain't fun, yer doin' it wrong. (tm) |
| 17:09.20 | startitup | Its fun to a point, but losing isn't always fun :/ |
| 17:10.07 | startitup | Getting to 1600 is quite hard and tedious, I can't imagine going too 1800! |
| 17:11.29 | nicoli_s | i still havent even tried the arena |
| 17:12.40 | startitup | Do it, its intense. |
| 17:13.03 | startitup | You know, your hands shake, your body sweats, its crazyness. |
| 17:13.53 | nicoli_s | what level do you have to be? |
| 17:14.32 | Lopeppeppy | Insanity level, at least. |
| 17:14.51 | startitup | 70/80 |
| 17:15.24 | startitup | So i hear lich king is down (39 secs) by some dude named Ensida (sp) and now he's being banned? |
| 17:15.25 | batbot | startitup, nothing found. |
| 17:15.35 | startitup | This reminds me of the athene situation |
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| 17:18.46 | cog|work | stupid darnassus teleporter to rut'theran keeps discoing me |
| 17:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | You don't like to disco? |
| 17:19.14 | cog|work | i get to the other side, from my point of view, but i can't interact with anyone |
| 17:19.29 | cog|work | and then when i get discoed, log back in and i'm back at the base of the teleporter |
| 17:20.18 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: my iPod would say otherwise ^_^ |
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| 17:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | Then whyfor complain? |
| 17:21.42 | cog|work | context |
| 17:21.43 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:24.11 | startitup | Ok - have a good morning guys, i'm leaving. |
| 17:24.13 | cog|work | besides the obligatory Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, i've also got Pure Disco 1-3 =) |
| 17:24.19 | cog|work | ttfn |
| 17:24.36 | Lopeppeppy | Abba, baby |
| 17:25.02 | cog|work | you should've seen the look on the biker dude's face when i pulled into the parking lot with Dancing Queen blaring... |
| 17:28.25 | Fisker | you wouldn't Lopeppeppy |
| 17:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | Sweetheart, you have NO idea. :) |
| 17:28.56 | Fisker | i do :( |
| 17:32.15 | Lunessa | Dancing queen, young and sweet, only seventeen.... |
| 17:32.34 | Lopeppeppy | give her a few more years, she'll ripen. |
| 17:32.51 | Lunessa | I likes them unsullied. I want to be the one to ruin them. |
| 17:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | All males say that, but then get bored very quickly with someone who doesn't even know how to friggin' drive. :) |
| 17:33.53 | Lunessa | I don't mind teaching. I'm just saying. |
| 17:34.11 | Lopeppeppy | Duly noted dear, but I'm far from 17 or sweet. :P |
| 17:34.42 | Lunessa | I also likes them well-educated and experienced. ;P |
| 17:38.40 | Lunessa | No wai? http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10446892-1.html |
| 17:39.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, very. |
| 17:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | There's no date announced, and it's still "in development" with "no details set yet", but the idea seems to be under construction. |
| 17:42.04 | Lunessa | I'm strangely intrigued. |
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| 17:42.11 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/5/ |
| 17:44.42 | Lunessa | And this... could be my life: http://xkcd.com/698/ |
| 17:44.54 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:45.02 | nicoli_s | i used to have a gf who would do that to me |
| 17:45.04 | nicoli_s | ahhhh youth |
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| 17:48.12 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like I'm gonna need an Iphone. :) |
| 17:48.22 | smcn | i'll take the raid healer app over actual raid healing if it had a "move out of fire" button |
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| 17:53.54 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Yes, I <3 mine. |
| 17:54.30 | Lopeppeppy | But the crackberry is nice. |
| 17:55.31 | nicoli_s | i dont like how tiny the buttons are on the blackberrys ive used |
| 17:56.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a girl, I have small fingers. |
| 17:57.55 | Sixen | ./wave |
| 17:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Sixen. |
| 17:59.20 | nicoli_s | thats why i think ill just get an iphone, perfect size for me, and i alreayd love my gf's itouch |
| 17:59.45 | nicoli_s | Sixen: are you testing our new site for curse? |
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| 18:01.17 | Sixen | Hey, nicoli. |
| 18:01.19 | Sixen | Yeah, I am. |
| 18:01.24 | Sixen | Hai2u peppy =] |
| 18:01.36 | DWSR | huggle teh pep. |
| 18:01.50 | Sixen | I'm testing 2 things for curse atm. |
| 18:02.04 | nicoli_s | ahh ok, we saw you as the new registered user and was like "who the fuck is sixen?" |
| 18:02.38 | Sixen | :( |
| 18:02.48 | Sixen | I work for Curse, you know that, yes? :X |
| 18:02.51 | nicoli_s | nope |
| 18:03.01 | Sixen | I'm the CM for DiabloFans. |
| 18:03.05 | nicoli_s | ahh ok cool |
| 18:03.07 | Sixen | :P |
| 18:03.15 | nicoli_s | <-sanktanglia every where other than irc |
| 18:03.23 | nicoli_s | im the DB site guy |
| 18:03.34 | nicoli_s | which means we'll prob get to do some work together once d3 comes out |
| 18:03.36 | Sixen | Oh, sweet. |
| 18:03.41 | Sixen | YEah, I hope so, ^_^ |
| 18:03.54 | Sixen | Pfft |
| 18:04.01 | Sixen | Were you the one who changed the db my site uses and not let me know? :( |
| 18:04.06 | nicoli_s | nope |
| 18:04.14 | nicoli_s | i do like wowdb, wardb, etc, no community sites |
| 18:04.17 | Sixen | ah |
| 18:04.22 | Sixen | Oh, *those* db's.. |
| 18:04.43 | Sixen | Actually, I was talking to Donovan about making a diablodb for d2 atm.. |
| 18:04.58 | Sixen | and then of course, expanding it to d3 |
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| 18:05.33 | nicoli_s | yah, i dunno how useful a db for diablo will be, but at the very least 3d models of the items and such |
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| 18:09.44 | Legorol | Can someone tell me how exactly the limit on entering instances (the "you have entered too many instances recently" message) works? |
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| 18:10.05 | Legorol | I heard it's 5 instances, and something like 1 hour, but is it 1 hour from the last or the first entry? |
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| 18:10.08 | Legorol | Is it a sliding window? |
| 18:10.14 | olafski | sliding for sure I'd say |
| 18:10.19 | Legorol | For example, can I enter 1 new instance every 12 minutes indefinitely? |
| 18:10.33 | olafski | I guess as long as you're "saved" it counts |
| 18:10.53 | Legorol | olafski: i'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with saves |
| 18:11.01 | Legorol | just enter-exit-reset will use it up |
| 18:11.16 | Thunder_Child | nicoli_s: what about mobs, skills, quests, and to a lesser extent zones? |
| 18:12.26 | olafski | legorol: hm. |
| 18:12.47 | olafski | legorol: http://www.wowwiki.com/Instance_limitations |
| 18:13.02 | Fisker | nicoli_s 3d models of what? |
| 18:13.10 | Fisker | As far as i can see there won't be any unique models |
| 18:13.28 | mitchnull | isn't there a SetMaxWidth() or similar for frames/regions/fontstrings? |
| 18:13.38 | mitchnull | can't seem to find such on wowwiki |
| 18:13.56 | Fisker | you know what's really horrible Legorol ? |
| 18:14.07 | Fisker | Last i heard the instance limit apparently applies to all your accounts as well |
| 18:14.11 | Fisker | since the b.net merge |
| 18:14.17 | Fisker | heard a few reports of it |
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| 18:14.27 | Fisker | not sure if they're still accurate though |
| 18:14.28 | Legorol | olafski: thanks, will read |
| 18:14.44 | mitchnull | damn, managed to close my irc tab... did anyone respond? :) |
| 18:15.25 | DWSR | mitch0: No. |
| 18:15.35 | mitchnull | double damn then |
| 18:16.47 | Fisker | i did mitch0 |
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| 18:16.58 | Fisker | i implied that your mother was a prostitute :( |
| 18:18.05 | Ancu | Has anyone seen kick buttowski? |
| 18:18.49 | Fisker | i'm not sure if i'm getting trolled or if that's a legitimate question |
| 18:18.50 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:19.01 | Ancu | its a legit question |
| 18:19.21 | Ancu | I tunes is giving out the premier episode free! |
| 18:19.24 | Fisker | then i must reply with "lol butt" :( |
| 18:19.34 | Ancu | kick butt |
| 18:19.40 | Ancu | ...owski |
| 18:19.40 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:20.00 | Fisker | to be fair itunes is a steaming pile of shit |
| 18:20.11 | Ancu | I disagree |
| 18:20.17 | cbreak | iTunes is the best audio player app I ever tried! |
| 18:20.26 | Ancu | I can buy TV eps for 2 bucks! |
| 18:20.33 | Ancu | That makes me happy |
| 18:20.36 | Fisker | i'll be yarr'ing all my tv shows until someone like Steam come up with an alternative, and also makes it available worldwide |
| 18:20.43 | cbreak | TV eps are on tv for free though |
| 18:20.44 | Fisker | it would make me happy too Ancu |
| 18:20.52 | Fisker | If it wasn't itunes + regional lockouts |
| 18:21.06 | Fisker | cbreak they're advertisement supported |
| 18:21.06 | olafski | was that sarcasm cbreak? |
| 18:21.09 | olafski | about the best audio app |
| 18:21.15 | cbreak | no |
| 18:21.19 | olafski | oO |
| 18:21.24 | cbreak | the only audio player app I ever tried |
| 18:21.28 | Ancu | But I wish they had complete a season like they do complete an album :( |
| 18:21.29 | olafski | I have to agree with fisker |
| 18:21.36 | Thunder_Child | mitchnull: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetMaxResize ? |
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| 18:23.46 | Ancu | I like iTunes. My only problem with them is that they insist on the MP4 format, so I cant load my avis and such in it |
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| 18:23.52 | mitchnull | thunder: not exactly, but thanks |
| 18:24.00 | Ancu | If I could they would have me hook like and sinker |
| 18:24.05 | Ancu | line* |
| 18:24.11 | olafski | can convert them pretty easily |
| 18:24.21 | Ancu | but the audio lags when you do |
| 18:24.25 | olafski | oO |
| 18:24.27 | Ancu | unless you know of a program I dont |
| 18:24.30 | olafski | didn't for me :P |
| 18:24.39 | Thunder_Child | doesnt for me |
| 18:24.42 | olafski | but that's annoying.. and I would probably prefer to just put my files on the ipod by just dragging them on |
| 18:24.50 | olafski | I used ipodME to convert them btw |
| 18:24.57 | Ancu | if its more then 30 mins I find that hte audio lags |
| 18:25.03 | Ancu | Ill try ipodME |
| 18:25.17 | olafski | and I use GOTsent to convert mkv to mp4 for my xbox |
| 18:25.26 | olafski | doesn't recode the video in that case |
| 18:28.33 | Thunder_Child | i use Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate, works like a charm |
| 18:30.10 | olafski | sounds complicated :P |
| 18:30.20 | olafski | but yeah there are tons of programs that do that |
| 18:30.26 | Thunder_Child | not at all |
| 18:31.07 | olafski | ipodme allows to choose the resolution and one of 6 profiles |
| 18:31.11 | olafski | I like it simple :P |
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| 18:32.02 | olafski | gotsent is similar.. but won't work for ipod I think |
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| 18:33.44 | Thunder_Child | this program alsu uses a core for each conversion |
| 18:33.46 | Thunder_Child | also* |
| 18:34.31 | DJJeff | Recount Alpha r1118 isn't working |
| 18:34.35 | cbreak | x264 + mp4box + faac + mplayer |
| 18:34.48 | DJJeff | updated yesterday and since then its not working |
| 18:35.13 | cbreak | Alphas aren't supposed to work |
| 18:35.16 | Thunder_Child | and you are telling us why? |
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| 18:36.09 | olafski | I thought alpha meant cutting edge stable stuff! |
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| 18:36.40 | cbreak | Cutting edge enough to slice off your fingers :) |
| 18:37.06 | DJJeff | lol |
| 18:37.26 | DJJeff | how do I downgrade from Alpha to Release using CC |
| 18:37.43 | DWSR | Set your preferred release type to Release. |
| 18:37.47 | DWSR | Then Reinstall. |
| 18:37.53 | DJJeff | hrmmm |
| 18:37.54 | DWSR | There should be a context menu option. |
| 18:38.04 | Thunder_Child | there is under right click |
| 18:38.54 | DWSR | That would be the context menu. |
| 18:39.10 | DJJeff | hrmmmmm usually Recount alpha works |
| 18:39.18 | DJJeff | this is the 1st time it broke |
| 18:39.39 | Thunder_Child | yes DWSR, becuse everyone knows what that is |
| 18:40.20 | DWSR | DJJeff: I never use Alpha. Set your release type to beta. |
| 18:40.27 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: That's what it's called. |
| 18:40.30 | olafski | everyone knows what a context menu is? |
| 18:40.53 | DWSR | The menu that's opened when you right click is called the context menu, because its contents depend on where you have focus when you right click. |
| 18:41.09 | olafski | I would assume everyone knows that yes |
| 18:41.12 | Thunder_Child | my point is just because you know that not everyone does |
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| 18:42.24 | Thunder_Child | allow me to restate that in english: Just because you know that, does not mean that every one does |
| 18:42.29 | DJJeff | back to v3.3g release |
| 18:42.32 | DJJeff | should work now |
| 18:42.35 | cbreak | alpha: lacks everything, mostly just skeleton and general structure |
| 18:42.43 | cbreak | beta: should be mostly feature complete but buggy |
| 18:42.47 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 18:42.49 | cbreak | release: ready for users |
| 18:42.55 | DWSR | Betas are *usually* pretty good. |
| 18:43.00 | DWSR | Alphas are just asking for stuff to break |
| 18:43.01 | cbreak | microsoft calls their betas release |
| 18:43.05 | Lopeppeppy | Especially deep fried. |
| 18:43.06 | cbreak | google calls their release code beta |
| 18:43.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, wait, was that out loud? |
| 18:43.21 | DWSR | lulz Lope |
| 18:43.26 | DWSR | cbreak: inorite? |
| 18:43.29 | DWSR | How long was gmail in Beta? |
| 18:43.30 | Fisker | how so cbreak ? |
| 18:43.42 | cbreak | is it final by now? :) |
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| 18:45.14 | olafski | you mean blizzard calls their beta release right? |
| 18:45.27 | olafski | and yeah gmail is now finally final |
| 18:45.41 | Dagmar | It's been finally finally for a while nwo. |
| 18:45.52 | olafski | was beta for ages though :P |
| 18:46.00 | olafski | orkut is still beta |
| 18:46.02 | Dagmar | You should check the Google Labs thing. There's an addon-or-other for GMail that lets you put the beta tag back on it |
| 18:46.12 | Dagmar | You know, if you miss it |
| 18:46.34 | DWSR | lulz |
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| 18:49.24 | Lunessa | the best part of living on the gulf coast at this time of year? Mardi Gras and king cake |
| 18:51.16 | Ancu | speaking of gmail, is anyone else having trouble getting on the gmail site? |
| 18:51.30 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 18:52.13 | DJJeff | Atlas Addon could sure use a serious update for all the ICC Dungeons X_X |
| 18:52.32 | DWSR | Open your map panel. |
| 18:53.02 | DJJeff | I was more saying because of AtlasLoot.... X_X |
| 18:53.08 | Dagmar | Ah the rich aroma of fail |
| 18:53.28 | DJJeff | I open Atlas then click on Atlas loot to check drop rates etc |
| 18:53.48 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Not sure why you said Nagios is overkill |
| 18:53.55 | Shirik | it is quite easy to use and very nice |
| 18:53.58 | DWSR | DJJeff: Then specify atlas loot. |
| 18:54.06 | Dagmar | Shirik: You've not deployed it against a network of size |
| 18:54.09 | DWSR | I use AL as a standalone. |
| 18:54.14 | DJJeff | Atlas Loot is an extension of Atlas |
| 18:54.18 | DJJeff | in a sence |
| 18:54.19 | DWSR | No it's not. |
| 18:54.22 | Shirik | well sure, but I don't have a network of size :) I have 3 boxes to worry about :P |
| 18:54.23 | Dagmar | Nagios' idea of process throttling is insane. |
| 18:54.24 | DWSR | It's a complete standalone. |
| 18:54.41 | Dagmar | ...or rather, it has no idea about that. |
| 18:54.49 | Shirik | Only one problem I have: I wish I had a client for my computer so I could get alerts instead of having to check a webpage |
| 18:54.58 | DWSR | Shirik: What's Nagious? |
| 18:55.00 | DWSR | Nagios* |
| 18:55.01 | Shirik | but it's also sending text messages to my phone which is ok |
| 18:55.08 | Dagmar | We use it at work and monthly I come within inches of just rewriting the part that manages running all the test, completely over |
| 18:55.22 | Shirik | DWSR: Network/service monitor |
| 18:55.45 | Dagmar | It used to just regularly @#$@!% the whole machine if there was a network failure of size that could cause tests to pile up incomplete |
| 18:56.29 | Shirik | lol, Wikipedia uses nagios, and I remember one time the whole network locked up because of a mysql bug that literally deadlocked every apache thread that came in contact with it |
| 18:56.48 | Shirik | and their nagios install reports to IRC |
| 18:56.53 | Shirik | it flooded off the bot |
| 18:57.32 | Dagmar | My biggest problem with it is the way it fails utterly to control itself |
| 18:57.55 | Shirik | Though I really wish I understood this DISK WARNING - free space: / 5857 MB (19% inode=85%): |
| 18:57.56 | Dagmar | If it's got the resources to run a given SNMP test every second, it will do it. |
| 18:58.02 | Shirik | is that supposed to be low space? |
| 18:58.09 | foxlit | low inode |
| 18:58.10 | Shirik | It's 25% free... |
| 18:58.12 | Dagmar | If it gets busy and can only do it once every thirty seconds, that's as much as it'll do it |
| 18:58.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:58.32 | Shirik | how do I fix that -_- have less files? |
| 18:58.36 | Dagmar | Shirik: You left the free space threshold at 80% and it sees you're running out of inodes, yah |
| 18:58.48 | DWSR | lulz |
| 18:58.49 | Dagmar | You reformat the filesytsem with smaller inodes |
| 18:58.55 | Shirik | noty |
| 18:58.55 | Dagmar | ...or more likely, change the test |
| 18:59.15 | DWSR | Anyone here a Truecrypter? |
| 18:59.22 | Shirik | my mom does |
| 18:59.24 | Dagmar | THe pisser is that whether or not it's doing a check per second, or a check every two minutes on something, is not something you can control |
| 18:59.37 | Dagmar | ...and it's not constant |
| 18:59.40 | Shirik | you can't? |
| 18:59.46 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 18:59.49 | Shirik | (I haven't bothered to try) |
| 19:00.56 | foxlit | OS design is crazy. |
| 19:01.09 | Shirik | class you're talking foxlit? |
| 19:01.14 | foxlit | "Hey, let's make a file system that can run out of resources while it has disk space." |
| 19:01.19 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:01.20 | Dagmar | It can be a little frustrating when something goes 3/3 failure, and you look and it's an SNMP test (UDP protocol, prone to false positives under high network load) so you look at the history and see that it did all three of those tests in the last thirty seconds... |
| 19:01.35 | Dagmar | ...then you tell it to poll again and it takes two minutes to get around to it |
| 19:02.01 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:02.18 | Shirik | that reminds me, I need to set up an SMTP test |
| 19:02.33 | Dagmar | The reporting and display features of Nagios are great but the undercarriage is made of driftwood, chicken wire, and paper machei |
| 19:02.45 | Shirik | I wonder how you would test SMTP |
| 19:02.49 | Shirik | connect and disconnect? |
| 19:02.55 | foxlit | Send more mail. |
| 19:02.57 | Dagmar | There's varying levels of dimwittery built in for that |
| 19:03.09 | Dagmar | You could do a plain port 25 check if you like surprises |
| 19:03.15 | Shirik | surprises? |
| 19:03.21 | Dagmar | There's also a more elaborate test it has that actually looks for the welcome banner |
| 19:03.45 | Dagmar | Suprises like "Interesting, the smtp daemon is answer connections but not saying anything" |
| 19:03.50 | Dagmar | The fun ones |
| 19:04.11 | Dagmar | I actually think it's called check_smtp |
| 19:04.26 | Shirik | oh there is a check_smtp... |
| 19:04.39 | Shirik | lol and a check_nagios |
| 19:04.44 | Shirik | how is that supposed to work... |
| 19:04.48 | Dagmar | Yeah the one sane thing is that most of the tests are a very short script, or a very short piece of C |
| 19:05.17 | Dagmar | You can easily debug them or modify them |
| 19:05.51 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:05.57 | Dagmar | I'm guessing you're already comfortable with it's slightly asynchronous administration |
| 19:06.33 | Dagmar | Instead of building a signal handler into the backend process, they elected to just make everything go through mysql |
| 19:06.55 | Dagmar | You tell it something through the web interface, the web interface puts a bit of info into mysql, and you get to wait for the backend to notice it |
| 19:07.03 | DWSR | O_O |
| 19:07.07 | DWSR | That's retarded. |
| 19:07.09 | Dagmar | Meaning it can be hell if a lot of alarms go off at once, but thankfully you've only got a small number |
| 19:07.31 | Shirik | yeah I only have a few things going on |
| 19:08.05 | Dagmar | I'll be sitting there at work clicking like mad trying to get it to STFU so I can see what else might have failed |
| 19:09.08 | Dagmar | dwsr: There's a pretty large portion of the blame I think falling on "bigger fires to fight" there |
| 19:10.13 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:11.10 | DWSR | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 19:16.06 | Dagmar | proof that vegetarians are deluding themselves about "defenseless" cows: http://www.newschannel5.com/global/story.asp?s=11940008 |
| 19:16.54 | Lopeppeppy | If you've ever been chased by a cow, or stepped on by one, you know they're not "defenseless". Cowtipping is not exactly safe... |
| 19:22.10 | Ackis | omg omg omg |
| 19:22.20 | Lunessa | Cowtipping... silly and stupid. |
| 19:22.24 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy, Seerah: http://dailysquee.com/2010/02/05/cute-baby-animals-my-favorite-thing-to-dvr/ my kitten made daily squee!!!! |
| 19:22.45 | Seerah | yay! |
| 19:23.13 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: you try to sneak up on cows and slip on their shit |
| 19:23.15 | Dagmar | Hah congrats! |
| 19:23.16 | Ackis | been there, done that |
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| 19:24.36 | Lopeppeppy | Stole a sheep once. |
| 19:24.52 | Lopeppeppy | That's your kitty, Ackis? How neat! |
| 19:25.42 | Ackis | yup that's indy |
| 19:25.47 | Ackis | named after indiana jones! |
| 19:27.51 | Ackis | http://bit.ly/cmULOO -> http://bit.ly/auTufu -> http://bit.ly/d4tBDZ -> http://bit.ly/bo5gNX (The evolution of one of my fiancee's drawings) |
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| 19:28.43 | Ackis | it looks like a battlecat imo |
| 19:29.40 | Lunessa | I prefer the pencil sketch to the finished colored piece. |
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| 19:29.55 | Thunder_Child | wtb shading |
| 19:30.15 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: look at the fourth one |
| 19:30.25 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: i did |
| 19:30.33 | Thunder_Child | thats coloring, not shadiing |
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| 19:32.18 | Thunder_Child | dont get me wrong, i like it. but i also wish there was a hint of a right foreleg |
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| 19:34.30 | Shirik | Ackis, she wins at drawing |
| 19:34.43 | Shirik | at least more than me |
| 19:34.47 | Lopeppeppy | I think he's pretty. |
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| 19:34.52 | Lopeppeppy | In an "I'm gonna eat you" way. |
| 19:35.17 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: interesting....what makes you think it is a he? |
| 19:35.18 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: her drawing or the kitten? :P |
| 19:35.57 | Lopeppeppy | TC, dunno. That just seemed like a boy-looking-critter to me. |
| 19:36.10 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I think that the *drawing* looks predatory, not the sleeping kitty. |
| 19:36.17 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:38.14 | Ackis | hmm there are red X's, O's, hearts and kisses on my computer monitor |
| 19:38.25 | Ackis | Fisker: I told you not to do that anymore :| |
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| 19:39.20 | Thunder_Child | Fisker and Ackis sitting in a tree... |
| 19:41.50 | DJJeff | ping |
| 19:41.55 | DJJeff | pong |
| 19:42.13 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHozn0YXAeE |
| 19:42.26 | DJJeff | any idea why I cant reply to someone elses support ticket? |
| 19:42.38 | DJJeff | on http://clientsupport.curse.com/ticket.aspx?id=1038 |
| 19:42.50 | DJJeff | I am having the exact same issue |
| 19:42.54 | Shirik | wtf, tornado watch has been issued |
| 19:42.55 | Lopeppeppy | Are you an admin, DJJeff? |
| 19:42.59 | DJJeff | no? |
| 19:43.09 | DJJeff | if I was I would have an @ in here X_X |
| 19:43.15 | Lopeppeppy | That would probably be why you can't comment on a support ticket that's not yours then, I would assume. |
| 19:43.18 | DJJeff | or a + atleast |
| 19:43.29 | Ackis | some idiot posted that same ticket for ARL /grumble |
| 19:43.35 | Ackis | DJJeff: I don't have a + in here :( |
| 19:43.45 | Nechckn | Shirik Two-feet-of-snow-warning here. See what fun you are missing while in the sunshine/rain/hurricane/tornado state? |
| 19:43.49 | DJJeff | whats ARL ? |
| 19:43.53 | Ackis | (it's been long decided I will never get an @ because I would abuse the hell out of it) |
| 19:43.54 | Ackis | ~arl |
| 19:43.55 | purl | arl is probably a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Join #arl for more information. |
| 19:44.05 | Pneumatus | poorly developed as well! |
| 19:44.06 | Pneumatus | hah, |
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| 19:44.26 | DJJeff | is there a better one then ARL? |
| 19:44.47 | Arrowmaster | is something up with my connection or is forums.wowace.com slow |
| 19:44.52 | Ackis | no, it's the best DJJeff |
| 19:44.56 | Ackis | I'm just self-abusive |
| 19:45.01 | DJJeff | ah |
| 19:45.02 | DJJeff | :) |
| 19:45.06 | DJJeff | I will download it then |
| 19:45.18 | DJJeff | does it do cooking and alchemy? |
| 19:45.35 | Ackis | yes |
| 19:45.38 | Ackis | and all the rest |
| 19:45.43 | Thunder_Child | you are far worse than that Ackis, you think Fisker is soft on you |
| 19:45.46 | DJJeff | sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 19:45.59 | Ackis | :( |
| 19:46.29 | DWSR | !ackis |
| 19:46.31 | DWSR | ~ackis |
| 19:46.31 | purl | [ackis] nr.2 |
| 19:46.37 | DWSR | pft. |
| 19:46.48 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:46.49 | Thunder_Child | ~emulate Ackis |
| 19:46.50 | purl | I AM QQing!!! |
| 19:47.15 | DWSR | a poorly named, poorly developed, poorly written add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Do not join #arl for more information. |
| 19:47.21 | DJJeff | is ARL short for anything by any chance? |
| 19:47.21 | DWSR | purl, arl is a poorly named, poorly developed, poorly written add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Do not join #arl for more information. |
| 19:47.22 | purl | ...but arl is already something else... |
| 19:47.28 | DWSR | purl, arl is really a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Join #arl for more information. |
| 19:47.29 | purl | ...but arl is already something else... |
| 19:47.41 | DWSR | no purl, arl is a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Join #arl for more information. |
| 19:47.53 | Shirik | it's "purl, no, ..." |
| 19:47.58 | DWSR | Oh, gdit. |
| 19:48.01 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
| 19:48.01 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on Shirik and turns Shirik into a brick |
| 19:48.06 | DWSR | purl, forget arl |
| 19:48.06 | purl | DWSR: i forgot arl |
| 19:48.10 | DWSR | purl, arl is a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Join #arl for more information. |
| 19:48.11 | purl | DWSR: okay |
| 19:48.14 | DWSR | ~arl |
| 19:48.15 | purl | i guess arl is a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Join #arl for more information. |
| 19:48.21 | DJJeff | is ARL short for anything by any chance? |
| 19:48.23 | DWSR | yes. |
| 19:48.26 | DWSR | Ackis Recipe List. |
| 19:48.27 | durcyn | you know the bot responds to privae messages, right |
| 19:48.28 | DJJeff | ok |
| 19:48.29 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 19:48.32 | DWSR | I'd rather spam the channel. |
| 19:48.39 | Ackis | ~arl |
| 19:48.40 | purl | [arl] a poorly named add-on, developed by Ackis. It will scan your recipes and tell you which are missing, where to acquire them from (vendor, trainer, etc) and what skill level they are. Join #arl for more information. |
| 19:48.45 | DWSR | I also don't know how to fact override with privmsgs. |
| 19:48.46 | durcyn | i'd rather bang your mother, but i ain't, am i |
| 19:48.53 | durcyn | just leave off the addressing |
| 19:48.58 | Arrowmaster | purl, tell Shirik about failrik |
| 19:49.00 | Dagmar | Oh my. |
| 19:49.00 | Thunder_Child | the same way you overide it |
| 19:49.05 | Thunder_Child | any other way |
| 19:49.07 | Dagmar | Achitecture students should skip fail blog today. |
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| 19:50.04 | DJJeff | is there anyway to disable WoWs ingame chat box so I can put WIM their and leave wim running |
| 19:50.29 | DJJeff | the annoying black square in the lower left of my screen above my bar |
| 19:50.38 | DJJeff | there* |
| 19:50.40 | Dagmar | Just move it to the bottom edge of your screen so 20 minutes from now we're not explaining how to get it back |
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| 19:51.12 | DJJeff | I assume you have to edit some file to remove it? |
| 19:52.01 | DWSR | Can't you also ChatFrame1:Hide()? |
| 19:52.39 | Dagmar | "What do you mean 'I was hollering "NEED A HEAL! NEED A HEAL!" for almost a minute'?" |
| 19:52.40 | DWSR | DJJeff: Try /run ChatFrame1:Hide() |
| 19:53.07 | Dagmar | There are better ways of getting trade spam off the screen |
| 19:53.16 | foxlit | Dagmar: that's why there's an audio I-need-a-heal emote. |
| 19:53.21 | DWSR | Dagmar: Has nothing to do with tradespam. |
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| 19:53.25 | foxlit | Not that anybody using it will get any heals, but still. |
| 19:53.28 | DWSR | Dagmar: Has more to do with WIM being much better. |
| 19:53.51 | Dagmar | I dunno that WIM can exactly replace it |
| 19:56.42 | DJJeff | cause of the party chat glitch right |
| 19:56.43 | DJJeff | lol |
| 19:57.25 | DJJeff | im sure I could find out how to get WIM addon updated.... if raid leader can be highlighted im sure Dungeon Leader can as well |
| 20:01.13 | DJJeff | so the flip side would be /run ChatFrame1:Show() |
| 20:01.14 | DJJeff | ? |
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| 20:07.05 | batrick | sylvanaar: thanks :) |
| 20:07.53 | Cairenn | alright all my darling geeks that I love so much - someone asked me if I could help them with this, and who better to ask than you guys |
| 20:07.56 | Cairenn | ok help me out with a little math... on a farm there are chickens and three legged cows...there are a total of 41 heads and 100 legs...how many chickens are on the farm? |
| 20:08.17 | Dagmar | That depends on if the farm handles those six-legged Tyson mutant chickens |
| 20:08.24 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 20:08.25 | durcyn | how many legs do the chickens have |
| 20:08.31 | KarlKFI | 3 cows with legs or an unknown number of cows with 3 legs each? |
| 20:09.08 | foxlit | lua> for chickens=1,100 do for cows=1,100 do if chickens*2+cows*4 == 100 and chickens+cows = 41 then print(chickens, cows); end end |
| 20:09.08 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: 'then' expected near '=' |
| 20:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | ... *snark* |
| 20:09.25 | foxlit | lua> for chickens=1,100 do for cows=1,100 do if chickens*2+cows*4 == 100 and chickens+cows == 41 then print(chickens, cows); end end |
| 20:09.26 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 20:09.32 | KarlKFI | fail |
| 20:09.35 | Lunessa | "I kissed a gruul and I liked it... " - a random forum .sig. Does Gruul wear cherry chapstick? |
| 20:09.40 | foxlit | lua> for chickens=1,100 do for cows=1,100 do if chickens*2+cows*4 == 100 and chickens+cows == 41 then print(chickens, cows); end end end |
| 20:09.40 | lua_bot | foxlit: 32, 9 |
| 20:09.48 | Zyonin | I don't think I want to know |
| 20:09.48 | Dagmar | moar end |
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| 20:11.22 | KarlKFI | lua> for chickens=1,100 do for cows=1,100 do if chickens*2+cows*3 == 100 and chickens+cows == 41 then print(chickens, cows); end end end |
| 20:11.23 | lua_bot | KarlKFI: 23, 18 |
| 20:11.30 | KarlKFI | the cows have 3 legs |
| 20:11.37 | KarlKFI | there's 23 chickens |
| 20:11.53 | alestane | clcuk + moo == 41 |
| 20:12.05 | Dagmar | BLeh I've been away from calculus for too long |
| 20:12.08 | alestane | 2cluck + 3moo = 100 |
| 20:12.15 | foxlit | three-legged cows are kind of meh. |
| 20:12.24 | Cairenn | hehehehe, thanks guys |
| 20:12.25 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:12.27 | foxlit | What sort of animal cruelty does that farm practice? |
| 20:12.33 | Cairenn | <3's her geeks |
| 20:12.35 | alestane | cluck + 2moo = 59 |
| 20:12.53 | Dagmar | Yeah I suspect all this might become secondary to the ASPCA investigation when they find out about all those three-legged cows |
| 20:13.16 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 20:13.48 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Are you addicted to Farm Town again? |
| 20:13.54 | Cairenn | not me, I don't play it |
| 20:14.02 | Cairenn | it really was someone else asking me |
| 20:14.05 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:14.13 | Dagmar | I suppose there's a possibility this question is there to find out whether or not you actually consider making sure your unit tests are insane to be important |
| 20:14.25 | Dagmar | s/insane/sane/; |
| 20:14.43 | alestane | Since cluck = 41 - moo, we can substitute that into one of the other equations: 41- moo + 2moo = 59, or moo = 18. Lua not required, just basic algebra. |
| 20:14.50 | KarlKFI | of course the real way to do it would be to solve them: cluck*2 + (41 - cluck) = 100 |
| 20:15.09 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 20:16.07 | Ackis | PUPPY BOWL http://www.pawnation.com/2010/02/04/puppy-bowl-earns-no-animals-were-harmed-disclaimer/ |
| 20:16.54 | Dagmar | Ooo that reminds me to set the PVR |
| 20:17.05 | KarlKFI | 100 â 41 = cluck*2 - cluck |
| 20:17.07 | alestane | Even if one did write it in Lua, it should probably be |
| 20:17.07 | alestane | lua> for chickens=1,41 do if chickens * 2 + (41 - chickens) * 3 == 100 then print(chickens) end end |
| 20:17.10 | lua_bot | alestane: 23 |
| 20:17.37 | KarlKFI | :P |
| 20:17.38 | alestane | There, answer in 41 iterations instead of 10,000. |
| 20:17.44 | foxlit | I reserve the right to object once Stinky dies |
| 20:17.50 | KarlKFI | he got his answer first :P |
| 20:18.15 | nicoli_s | anyone else seeing lots of debug messages when starting the client before the login screen shows? |
| 20:18.20 | Pneumatus | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/129079719418109561.jpg |
| 20:18.26 | foxlit | If you're going to /think/ about the problem, you may as well reduce it to a single assignment. |
| 20:18.47 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: Yes. |
| 20:19.08 | nicoli_s | ok cool was making sure it wasnt just some weird thing for me |
| 20:19.08 | Dagmar | It started after the last big patch. Doesn't seem to be causing a problem--just some stuff going to console that didn't before |
| 20:19.26 | Dagmar | It's off my screen so fast I actually had to break out the cameraphone to read it |
| 20:20.38 | Thrae | Dagmar: That's what 'PAUSE' and "ScrollLock' were invented for, if whatever you're talking about supports them (most BIOSes do). |
| 20:21.20 | Dagmar | Thrae: Well good for you for knowing what a BIOS is |
| 20:21.22 | Arrowmaster | speaking of scrolllock, mine doesnt work |
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| 20:22.01 | Arrowmaster | push the button and it doesnt change the light on the keyboard or show up in xset q |
| 20:22.18 | durcyn | that's the worst thing |
| 20:22.30 | durcyn | scrolllock is basically required for modern computing |
| 20:22.33 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: X apps have typically had little use for that |
| 20:22.42 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Laptops and USB keyboards regularly have that problem more often than PS/2. |
| 20:23.24 | Thrae | My mother told me a funny story the other day. In computer class my little sister was asked what 'Numlock' did. She answered, 'Autorun.' |
| 20:23.36 | Shirik | eÃ~Ã |
| 20:23.37 | Shirik | ÃnÃ~Ã.Ã.Ã~Ã |
| 20:23.40 | Dagmar | hahaha |
| 20:24.00 | Dagmar | That's priceless |
| 20:24.02 | DWSR | LULZ |
| 20:24.31 | Dagmar | At least she didn't say "Wipes the raid" |
| 20:24.34 | Fisker | cool guys ain't named Shirik |
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| 20:24.44 | Shirik | cool guys ain't named Fisker |
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| 20:24.55 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 20:25.02 | Shirik | I agree |
| 20:25.25 | Thrae | Fisker reminds me of two words -- "Frisker" and "Fisher", both not having great visuals in my head. |
| 20:25.29 | Dagmar | I've got a first-gen G15 keyboard and I'm using numpad binds for tanking |
| 20:25.44 | Dagmar | All I have to do to make guildies nervous is make my toon twitch a little |
| 20:26.32 | Dagmar | I'm finally putting that 15,000+ 10-key score to good use |
| 20:26.36 | Fisker | i frisk you Thrae |
| 20:27.37 | Dagmar | Thrae: By the way, the weird messaages nicoli was referring to appear in the first graphical screen that appears, just before (and I mean JUST) the login dialog for the game comes up |
| 20:27.55 | Dagmar | It's only there for like a split second, and if your display is slow about mode-switching, you might never even see them |
| 20:28.20 | Dagmar | It's just bits of the graphics engine chattering as they initialize, from the look of 'em |
| 20:28.27 | Thrae | Dagmar: Ah yeah I noticed that. It has a few errors for me. I think it's just an error log being spit out to stdout, but I think it's the same as one of the text logs AFAIK. |
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| 20:29.49 | mitchnull | anyone happen to use Bazooka in here who is not Fisker? |
| 20:30.26 | Dagmar | plz bazooka fisker kthxbai |
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| 20:31.18 | Fisker | i will always be |
| 20:33.12 | Shirik | Interesting quote from a paper I'm reading: "The C/C++ programming language 1 is frequently declared dead or at least dying. Actually, it is still the lingua franca in the real world of software industry." |
| 20:33.50 | mitchnull | shirik: what's interesting in it? |
| 20:33.59 | Ackis | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_list1.jpg (Kraps that should be spoiler free ME2 lulz) |
| 20:34.03 | Shirik | I 100% agree, but haven't heard many people actually say that |
| 20:34.48 | mitchnull | fanboys have larger voice, real programmers usually don't have the time/patience to argue :) |
| 20:34.57 | Ancu | "'Fail'? I don't do 'fail'." -Kick Buttowski |
| 20:36.03 | KarlKFI | Ackis: bet i could guess what that last line is |
| 20:36.41 | Dagmar | Ackis: It's funnier if you've seen the original image that that's based on |
| 20:37.17 | Dagmar | http://blogs.nerve.com/scanner/2009/12/23/guy-posts-his-sisters-hookup-list-to-facebook-and-tags-all-the-guys/ <-- family of BASTARDS |
| 20:37.52 | Lunessa | Dagmar: old post is old |
| 20:39.21 | Lunessa | C/C++ is not dead. It will NEVER DIE. There must always be a Lich King! |
| 20:39.48 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That that's where it came from is rather the point |
| 20:40.04 | Lunessa | Dagmar: /nod |
| 20:42.43 | Shirik | pets Lunessa |
| 20:42.57 | Kraps | Ackis: luls |
| 20:43.02 | Shirik | Funny thing is, so many people think Ada is dead too |
| 20:43.08 | Shirik | last I checked I still rely on a lot of Ada code... |
| 20:43.33 | Dagmar | I can see that kid growing up and applying for the position of "switch thrower" at a correctional facility |
| 20:43.36 | Lunessa | I never worked in Ada, but that means nothing. I did FORTRAN, COBOL, PASCAL and C/C++. |
| 20:43.48 | Shirik | no safety-critical stuff Lunessa? |
| 20:43.58 | Shirik | That seems to be the only place it is and ever was used |
| 20:44.05 | Lunessa | Shirik: I never worked in Criticality 1 projects. |
| 20:44.17 | Fisker | cool Shirik ain't Shirik |
| 20:44.38 | Lunessa | as in, none of my code was ever for things that could result in the death of the user. |
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| 20:45.00 | mitchnull | shirik: ada is painful though |
| 20:45.01 | Dagmar | If only that were a standard function. |
| 20:45.18 | Shirik | a lot of my code could result in death of the user and more :/ |
| 20:45.24 | Shirik | Actually, I take that back |
| 20:45.31 | Shirik | usually the user is fairly safe because he's in a trailer |
| 20:45.36 | Dagmar | if (len($passwd) < 3) then; kill_user; done; |
| 20:45.37 | Shirik | but there are a lot of other people it could kill :P |
| 20:46.10 | Shirik | The fact that some of my code relies on a dead man's switch is bad enough :P |
| 20:46.24 | sylvanaar | lua> local local=1 print(local) |
| 20:46.26 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near 'local' |
| 20:46.49 | sylvanaar | lua> print(local) |
| 20:46.52 | lua_bot | sylvanaar: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'local' |
| 20:46.55 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100205.html |
| 20:47.35 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/372235243 |
| 20:48.45 | DJJeff | http://pastebin.com/f4b8d5256 <----- anything wrong with this? I hope not X_X |
| 20:48.58 | Ackis | OMG http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/02/05/crunchdeals-50-piece-chicken-mcnuggets-bucket-for-10-this-weekend/ |
| 20:49.01 | Ackis | 50 nuggets! |
| 20:49.48 | Dagmar | Which part of the chicken is the "nugget" |
| 20:49.55 | Ackis | who cares! |
| 20:49.59 | Kalroth | I thought that was the american regular size bucket |
| 20:50.07 | Shirik | omfg |
| 20:50.11 | Shirik | I would get that |
| 20:50.19 | DJJeff | ^^ - pastebin is for a Dungeon guide fix for WIM |
| 20:50.27 | DJJeff | (crosses fingers) |
| 20:50.36 | Shirik | Kalroth: No that's the small size |
| 20:50.46 | Kalroth | *jealous* |
| 20:51.08 | Dagmar | "In a huge bucket. To share with others, hopefully." |
| 20:51.22 | DJJeff | CHAT_MSG_DUNGEON_GUIDE is right? |
| 20:53.01 | Shirik | screw that |
| 20:53.03 | Shirik | they're all mine |
| 20:53.09 | Ackis | Dagmar: gimme that bucket, 15 bbq sauces and a straw! |
| 20:53.13 | Ackis | om nom nom slurp |
| 20:53.33 | Lunessa | mmmm... superbowl food. |
| 20:53.46 | Dagmar | OKay while I'm no stranger to sitting down with a bong and eating until my eyes bulge, FIFTY mcnuggets is a bit much |
| 20:53.57 | Ackis | 50 is never enough |
| 20:54.07 | Ackis | I wonder if I can get them here |
| 20:54.19 | Ackis | if not |
| 20:54.23 | Ackis | fuck americans! |
| 20:55.10 | Cairenn | giggles at Shirik |
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| 21:00.21 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:06.30 | Shirik | tornado warning just applied to me :/ |
| 21:06.35 | Shirik | FU FLORIDA |
| 21:07.08 | Dagmar | People in tornado prone regions should be building down, not up. |
| 21:07.11 | Dagmar | SOmehow it never happens. |
| 21:08.36 | Cairenn | will give Shirik a tornado! |
| 21:08.39 | Cairenn | >< |
| 21:08.45 | Cairenn | blasphemer! |
| 21:09.40 | Shirik | Cairenn is so mean :( |
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| 21:09.54 | Cairenn | you haven't begun to see mean yet! |
| 21:10.22 | Cairenn | blasphemer! |
| 21:10.26 | Shirik | gah, so many warnings |
| 21:10.37 | Shirik | now my emergency radio is yelling at me |
| 21:11.12 | Cairenn | yells at Shirik |
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| 21:15.20 | Cairenn | blasphemer or not, I still <3 you, so please duck |
| 21:15.30 | Shirik | I love how there have been no code red alerts... |
| 21:15.35 | Shirik | our school is such crap |
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| 21:20.17 | Ackis | code red was a mountain dew flavour |
| 21:20.45 | Shirik | code red is our school's reverse 911 system |
| 21:21.51 | durcyn | in case of emergency, drink this |
| 21:22.05 | Shirik | don't panic |
| 21:22.08 | durcyn | no, wait, i'm thinking of the bottle of vodka we have labelled "Disaster Recovery" |
| 21:22.20 | Dagmar | GOOD plan. |
| 21:22.27 | Shirik | ^ |
| 21:22.35 | NightHawkTheSane | is that the actual brand name of hte vodka? |
| 21:22.38 | NightHawkTheSane | or just a label you put on it? :P |
| 21:22.50 | NightHawkTheSane | because Disaster Recovery would be a GREAT brand name for vodka |
| 21:23.23 | durcyn | it's an aftermarket modification, but if you end up using it as a brand name, i want a cut. |
| 21:24.05 | Dagmar | I think perhaps if I saw a bottle labeled that in the liquor store my hand would just leap out at it as if it were covered in neodynium magnets and I was made of iron |
| 21:24.23 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe, indeed. |
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| 21:27.31 | Kraps | Ackis: i literally loled when garrus talked about "resolving" his problem the the female turian |
| 21:28.36 | Ackis | he tapped dat alien ass |
| 21:31.13 | Kraps | reach and flexibility apply equally to wrestling and..."wrestling" |
| 21:31.54 | durcyn | i didn't realize garrus was a romance option for my femshep, i should see how it plays out |
| 21:32.27 | Kraps | durcyn: there is? |
| 21:32.33 | durcyn | yeah |
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| 21:33.54 | NeoTron | apparently there's helpful advice to be had from the good doctor for that option as well |
| 21:34.11 | NeoTron | overall though, ME2 is not ME in the romance result aspect |
| 21:34.15 | Kraps | durcyn: where did you see that? |
| 21:36.04 | Ackis | DA:O > ME + ME2 |
| 21:36.28 | NeoTron | Ackis: I'll likely get DA:O when it's for sale at 1/2 price on steam :P |
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| 21:40.54 | Kraps | should i buy bioshock? |
| 21:41.03 | durcyn | no? |
| 21:41.40 | Kraps | why? |
| 21:41.45 | haste | if you don't play with non-standard key setups you could try the demo! |
| 21:41.55 | nicoli_s | bioshock is awesome kraps |
| 21:42.05 | haste | the binding interface was horribly broken in the demo at least, so I never bought it :P |
| 21:42.28 | Kraps | i tried the demo, the atmosphere is there |
| 21:42.30 | haste | a lot of people say it's a dissapointment compared to sshock2 tho' |
| 21:42.52 | Kraps | even the demo creeped me out |
| 21:44.43 | alestane | "Now son, be honest with me. Did you freeze your sister?" |
| 21:44.44 | alestane | "...no..." |
| 21:44.44 | alestane | "Then why is she f*&$ing frozen?" |
| 21:46.58 | mikma | it must be freezing in there then |
| 21:47.16 | alestane | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/8/15/ |
| 21:50.19 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/pennyarcade/1422/20100205.jpg |
| 21:51.14 | Kraps | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/7/16/ |
| 21:52.14 | Kraps | iHeal is sweet, i would get that if i was a healer :p |
| 21:53.14 | Kraps | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/2/1/ |
| 21:53.52 | Kraps | :O |
| 21:55.17 | Kraps | laters |
| 21:55.51 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/02/05/funny-pictures-cats-are-carnivores/ |
| 21:57.54 | mikma | so, cats stay awesome. |
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| 21:59.04 | haste | fuck |
| 21:59.07 | haste | I scrolled down :V |
| 22:03.17 | mikma | haste: kill it with this http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/hello_kitty_chainsaw.jpg |
| 22:03.52 | Ackis | ~dict ponzi scheme |
| 22:04.24 | Ackis | :( |
| 22:06.24 | Ackis | I'm reading figures that the US debt is 3 trillion, and that it's 12 trillion... anyone know which is correct? |
| 22:08.09 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abRFNHqUiRI |
| 22:09.11 | Ackis | that didn't answer my question Adys |
| 22:10.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: i believe the current -debt- is 12 trillion. |
| 22:10.35 | KarlKFI | http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np |
| 22:10.54 | KarlKFI | $12,346,427,470,024.01 |
| 22:10.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i was about to say the 3 trill might be the deficit, but that sounds way too big |
| 22:11.07 | cbreak | You sure? |
| 22:11.26 | cbreak | my country has spent a metric megaton of funding on bailing out banks |
| 22:11.27 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.34 | cbreak | and the US are like 100 times bigger |
| 22:11.54 | KarlKFI | .gov site vs wikipedia... hmm |
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| 22:12.15 | KarlKFI | got that link from http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/ |
| 22:12.23 | KarlKFI | so i trust it more |
| 22:12.23 | Ackis | ty karlkfi |
| 22:12.47 | Ackis | wait |
| 22:12.58 | Ackis | karlkfi, KarlKFI and KarlKFI|work |
| 22:13.11 | NightHawkTheSane | OH MY GOD HE'S REPLICATING! |
| 22:13.16 | KarlKFI | duplicated, duplicated, DUPLICATED! |
| 22:13.16 | Ackis | my irc client is fucking up |
| 22:13.17 | NightHawkTheSane | SHOOT HIM! SHOOT HIM WITH BULLETS! |
| 22:13.55 | KarlKFI | there's 2 of me on right now cause i'm telecommuting, heh |
| 22:14.04 | Ackis | I thought there were three of you |
| 22:14.06 | Ackis | that scared me |
| 22:14.11 | Ackis | not as much as 12 trillion in debt |
| 22:14.54 | cbreak | probably not you who has to pay it back |
| 22:15.01 | cbreak | so just don't get children :) |
| 22:15.06 | Ackis | I'm not american |
| 22:15.10 | Ackis | so I'll never have to pay it back |
| 22:15.14 | Ackis | not that you could if you wanted to |
| 22:15.16 | cbreak | even better :) |
| 22:15.17 | KarlKFI | you could if you wanted to tho: https://www.pay.gov/paygov/forms/formInstance.html?agencyFormId=23779454 |
| 22:15.31 | DJJeff | CHAT_MSG_DUNGEON_GUIDE didn't work out to well and google search didn't help much |
| 22:15.45 | cbreak | ... |
| 22:15.52 | cbreak | what the hell is that page? |
| 22:16.11 | Nechckn | KarlKFI only reason I went with the wiki is that the source is http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2010/assets/hist.pdf =) |
| 22:16.14 | DJJeff | does it link to meatspin? |
| 22:16.18 | Ackis | with 12 trillion in debt, there's no way you can get out of it (aka you're fucked aka move to canada) |
| 22:16.49 | KarlKFI | "Welcome to the United States Treasury's |
| 22:16.49 | KarlKFI | site for making donations to help reduce the public debt. If you would like to make a |
| 22:16.49 | KarlKFI | donation, please fill in the required fields |
| 22:16.49 | KarlKFI | and click the Submit Data button when |
| 22:16.49 | KarlKFI | completed." |
| 22:16.49 | NightHawkTheSane | with 12 trillion in debt, you kinda figure it's effectively play money anyway, and just shrug and move on. :P |
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| 22:17.26 | Ackis | NightHawkTheSane: not when said money is owed to countries with nukes :P |
| 22:17.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, we probably still have more nukes, so okay ;) |
| 22:17.47 | Ackis | I should start researching india/china's economy |
| 22:18.06 | Ackis | since you owe them money and all the greedy corporations are outsourcing jobs there, they have to be doing well |
| 22:18.33 | cbreak | china and india don't seem very tempting |
| 22:18.38 | cbreak | I am happy to be in europe :) |
| 22:18.58 | Ackis | europe would be cool |
| 22:19.00 | Ackis | except |
| 22:19.04 | Ackis | for all the europians ;) |
| 22:19.12 | cbreak | europeans are great people! |
| 22:20.29 | Ackis | sure sure :P |
| 22:21.43 | Ackis | if I had to live in the EU, I'd move next to Fisker |
| 22:24.41 | Nechckn | Ackis you would have to get him to undo the chains so you could leave his basement, first. |
| 22:25.39 | Ackis | he's already chained to my heart! |
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| 22:31.05 | foxlit | # I'm not spooky, I'm just existence-impaired. |
| 22:31.48 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/wilw/status/8653995810 |
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| 22:34.41 | Dagmar | makes a face |
| 22:35.08 | foxlit | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzTUbdIihvY ] |
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| 22:37.18 | DJJeff | Antiarc ? |
| 22:37.51 | Antiarc | Hm? |
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| 22:38.06 | DJJeff | you are author of "chatter" |
| 22:38.28 | DJJeff | how did you get dungeon guide to work? |
| 22:38.46 | Antiarc | Grum updated that bit of code, I think |
| 22:39.03 | Grum | see Modules/ChannelNames.lua |
| 22:39.08 | DJJeff | k |
| 22:39.16 | DJJeff | I need to download chatter and look |
| 22:39.31 | Grum | its basicly the same as Party Leader |
| 22:39.54 | Grum | they just change the event just before they build the string |
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| 22:41.59 | olafski | mm 666k xp/hr.. this is almost as good as with AV grinding before the nerf |
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| 22:49.06 | ckknight | does this make sense to anyone? bad argument #1 to 'select' (index out of range) |
| 22:49.12 | ckknight | I'm not sure about the arguments, tbh |
| 22:49.22 | Adys | uh |
| 22:49.33 | nevcairiel | lua> select(10, "foo") |
| 22:49.33 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: No output |
| 22:49.34 | Adys | that means you're trying to select an item in a list which is shorter than your selection |
| 22:49.52 | nevcairiel | lua> select(math.inf, "foo") |
| 22:49.52 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'select' (number expected, got nil) |
| 22:50.00 | ckknight | lua> math.info |
| 22:50.00 | lua_bot | ckknight: nil |
| 22:50.01 | ckknight | err |
| 22:50.03 | ckknight | lua> math.inf |
| 22:50.04 | lua_bot | ckknight: nil |
| 22:50.11 | nevcairiel | lua> select(1/0, "foo") |
| 22:50.11 | ckknight | lua> select(1/0, "foo") |
| 22:50.12 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'select' (index out of range) |
| 22:50.12 | lua_bot | ckknight: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'select' (index out of range) |
| 22:50.13 | ckknight | bah |
| 22:50.14 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:50.32 | nevcairiel | i think it was math.huge fwiw :P |
| 22:50.38 | nevcairiel | lua> math.huge |
| 22:50.38 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: inf |
| 22:50.53 | Adys | lua> math.verysmall |
| 22:50.53 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 22:51.01 | Adys | Bibi: you hear that? you're not compatible with lua |
| 22:51.27 | Bibi | ? |
| 22:51.32 | Wobin | math.humungous |
| 22:51.33 | Bibi | what's wrong with LUA? |
| 22:51.40 | Ackis | I think he just said your penis is small Bibi |
| 22:51.42 | Wobin | it's not? |
| 22:51.43 | Adys | lua> math.preposterous |
| 22:51.43 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 22:51.49 | Wobin | what's LUA? |
| 22:52.10 | nevcairiel | also, where is krka to smite the LUA sayers? |
| 22:52.19 | Ackis | rawr |
| 22:52.25 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 22:52.25 | Bibi | (yay, it works!) |
| 22:52.37 | Adys | it's Lame, Uninteresting and Apathic |
| 22:52.39 | Adys | like Bibi |
| 22:52.49 | Bibi | I love you too moonpie |
| 22:53.17 | Ackis | next article on mmo-champ: Adys and Bibi out of the closet finally |
| 22:53.36 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 22:54.00 | Ackis | Bibi: http://www.cracked.com/article_18409_the-5-most-statistically-full-shit-national-stereotypes.html there's a part about france there :P |
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| 22:54.58 | Ackis | "The French are Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkeys" |
| 22:55.06 | Ackis | that's a full of shit stereotype |
| 22:55.08 | Ackis | apparently |
| 22:55.16 | Ackis | according to researchers at cracked.com |
| 22:59.36 | Shirik | Ackis is a cheese-eating surrender monkey |
| 22:59.54 | Ackis | I avoid cheese |
| 22:59.57 | Ackis | it gives me the shits |
| 23:00.11 | bleeter | no u |
| 23:01.58 | Shirik | gd adobe acrobat |
| 23:02.02 | Shirik | why can't it work as well as photoshop; |
| 23:03.17 | bleeter | Ackis: better to be a cheese eating surrender monkey than a burger eating invasion monkey ;) |
| 23:03.33 | Ackis | I'm not american :P |
| 23:03.41 | Ackis | I'm Canadian |
| 23:03.45 | Ackis | we don't invade |
| 23:03.47 | Ackis | we apologize |
| 23:03.51 | Ackis | and go "eh" |
| 23:04.00 | bleeter | (to steal the line from graeme garden) |
| 23:04.30 | bleeter | Ackis: wasn't casting anything about your nationality, making observation oh fellow friend in the commonwealth :D |
| 23:04.53 | Ackis | God Save the Queen! |
| 23:04.55 | Ackis | :D |
| 23:04.56 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:05.29 | bleeter | yup |
| 23:05.37 | olafski | save her from what? |
| 23:05.40 | bleeter | all that crap with voting to put some mad prick in charge.... |
| 23:05.50 | bleeter | may as well just have some mad inbred in charge and save a shedload |
| 23:05.58 | Ackis | I don't follow the crown that closely |
| 23:06.04 | Ackis | she's on my coins |
| 23:06.06 | Ackis | comes to visit |
| 23:06.16 | Ackis | I met a duke or something once |
| 23:06.21 | Ackis | made eye contact and he nodded |
| 23:06.25 | Ackis | I swooned |
| 23:06.28 | bleeter | I think she drove past my high school some day |
| 23:07.00 | bleeter | tbh as a head of state in a western country, she's doing pretty well. 60+ years in charge |
| 23:07.09 | bleeter | admire that in the old duck |
| 23:07.13 | Ackis | yeah |
| 23:07.24 | Ackis | better than charles would do IMO |
| 23:11.14 | bleeter | charles would go smoke some weed then talk to the plants in his greenhouse |
| 23:11.30 | bleeter | I can dig that in a head of state, completely insane that is |
| 23:11.38 | bleeter | least we won't have voted him in |
| 23:13.19 | Nechckn | She is just hanging on until folks get used to the idea that she is skipping Ears and appointing one of the spawn as the follow-on-figure-head |
| 23:18.15 | Wobin | hehe, the advantages of having a monarchy |
| 23:18.23 | Wobin | you're not to blame if the head of state is a kook =P |
| 23:18.37 | Nechckn | Very true |
| 23:18.47 | Wobin | or perhaps less to blame |
| 23:18.56 | Wobin | since we don't arrange a revolt or the like |
| 23:19.00 | Nechckn | But you can run around and say how wondrous they are if they are at least mediocre |
| 23:19.16 | Wobin | "Wasn't our lack of choice wonderful!" |
| 23:19.40 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxbos1WD5b1qzzo09o1_500.jpg |
| 23:19.43 | Nechckn | Or how you hold them close to your heart.. as I oft hear of QE2 |
| 23:19.48 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 23:20.39 | Nechckn | BTW, Cairenn - Spirit is still waiting for his "I will pick you up one time, no questions asked." pickup. |
| 23:20.52 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 23:20.53 | Nechckn | When shall I tell him to expect you? |
| 23:21.17 | Wobin | ... on Mars? |
| 23:21.21 | Nechckn | He will be ever so sad if you don't even remember him... |
| 23:21.25 | Cairenn | is confused beyond words |
| 23:21.31 | Wobin | It's a godawful small affair |
| 23:21.34 | Nechckn | (At least Wobin knows) |
| 23:22.26 | Nechckn | coughs at Cairenn http://xkcd.com/695/ |
| 23:23.43 | Cairenn | I didn't recall that it was up to me to pick him up :p |
| 23:24.22 | Nechckn | Well I cannot get there.. so it is up to you. |
| 23:24.28 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:27.33 | Wobin | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1928855 |
| 23:27.37 | Wobin | is actually kinda awesome |
| 23:27.42 | Wobin | very well written |
| 23:31.55 | Wobin | http://www.allocine.fr/video/player_gen_cmedia=18950433&cfilm=133917.html |
| 23:31.58 | Wobin | looks kinda cool |
| 23:32.12 | Wobin | although Bibi could probably tell us what it's actually about =P |
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| 23:32.40 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 23:32.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi there. |
| 23:33.16 | Wobin | also zomg http://twitpic.com/photos/Astro_Soichi |
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| 23:33.22 | Wobin | now -there's- a use for twitter... |
| 23:33.28 | Wobin | photos from the ISS =) |
| 23:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | Much of pretty |
| 23:34.57 | Wobin | ok |
| 23:35.02 | Wobin | that's my linkspam for the moment |
| 23:35.10 | Wobin | off to make ridiculous amounts of chocolate crackles |
| 23:35.20 | Wobin | I don't know how I'm going to fit 50 of them in my fridge ... =\ |
| 23:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | You could give me some. |
| 23:35.46 | Wobin | (PS, that's half a kilo of copha... ><) |
| 23:35.46 | Lopeppeppy | I'll store them. |
| 23:35.48 | Lopeppeppy | Promise. |
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| 23:46.41 | Shirik | I'm gonna go get some donuts I think |
| 23:47.36 | Nechckn | Bring me some, too, Shiibop |
| 23:47.44 | olafski | whoa, nice mario song wobin :D |
| 23:47.46 | Nechckn | Shirik, even... eesh. |
| 23:47.54 | Shirik | heh, sorry |
| 23:47.59 | Shirik | !quote NICK :EDI |
| 23:47.59 | batbot | Shirik, nick has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 23:49.33 | Dagmar | I think I found a decent quote for EDI... "I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees." |
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| 23:59.31 | Wobin | shiibop a dipadop? |
| 23:59.40 | Wobin | (a doo wop a diiddy a da) |
