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| 00:21.51 | Lunessa | This thread - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22748757543&sid=1 - makes me want to post something like "I am looking for a macro that will tank, the boss, collect the loot, sell all my junk, make me rich, and cyber my girlfriend for me." |
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| 00:25.14 | cogwheel | Lunessa: so why don't you? |
| 00:25.14 | cogwheel | imo |
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| 00:25.51 | cogwheel | or link them to MacroSequence, assuming it still works :P |
| 00:27.29 | PProvost | A week or so ago, someone mentioned a must-have Visual Studio plugin but I lost the link. (Don't bother slamming MS or VS, I have no choice.) |
| 00:28.28 | PProvost | Found it. Visual Assist |
| 00:28.28 | cogwheel | vs is awesome |
| 00:28.33 | cogwheel | and visual assist is awesomer |
| 00:28.54 | cogwheel | VS is one of the things MS has consistently done right |
| 00:29.01 | PProvost | :) |
| 00:29.35 | cogwheel | not that it doesn't leave you wanting in some ways, but it's really the best game in town as far as truly integrated IDEs |
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| 00:31.41 | cog|away | time for home |
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| 00:34.01 | Lunessa | Cog, I actually wrote them a macro too. |
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| 00:39.53 | Nechckn | Lunessa That macro doesn't help cyber... geez.. False advertisement!! |
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| 00:40.52 | Nechckn | Seeing as how there likely is no girl friend, you'd have to keep that in mind, too. ;-) |
| 00:41.10 | Lunessa | :P |
| 00:42.02 | Thunder_Child | though if there was the automation would mean you would not /have/ to cyber |
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| 00:42.19 | Thunder_Child | s/ s t/s, t/ |
| 00:42.39 | Thunder_Child | bah, blasted space |
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| 00:44.02 | Nechckn | True.. you druid could be tanking the instance while you are over at Suzy's house, hoping her mom and dad do not get back too soon... |
| 00:44.11 | Nechckn | s/you/your/ |
| 00:44.50 | Thunder_Child | unless you are into that sort of thing |
| 00:45.03 | Nechckn | Maybe just lend your account to a quad-boxing buddy. They could just take care of eveerything for you. |
| 00:45.22 | Nechckn | They'd likely be cybering with your g/f while you are sitting there, too. =) |
| 00:45.42 | Nechckn | You know, since they are all multi-tasking PROs and all. |
| 00:45.46 | Thunder_Child | cybers with Nechckn's GF |
| 00:46.22 | Nechckn | quickly signs off of GF's account |
| 00:46.29 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child you dirty bird... |
| 00:46.33 | Thunder_Child | feels dirty |
| 00:46.53 | Nechckn | Don't make me come over there and hose you off! |
| 00:47.15 | Thunder_Child | well, it /is/ hard to pass up a free hosing |
| 00:48.50 | Nechckn | Especially a Nechckn hosing... legendary! |
| 00:49.15 | Nechckn | At least that is what all of my YouTube comments say. |
| 00:49.37 | Thunder_Child | well, you cant take those at face value |
| 00:50.02 | Nechckn | Lol, I don't, but they do! |
| 00:50.07 | Nechckn | bu, dump, dump! |
| 00:50.39 | Nechckn | returns to a less than crazed state. |
| 00:51.34 | Thunder_Child | i have decided to take you up on your offer. when should i schedule you in Nechckn? |
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| 00:52.41 | Nechckn | Watched those videos, did you? =) I'm booked for the next couple of months.. how does 12 March suit you? |
| 00:53.04 | Thunder_Child | ok, but i am going to be quite stinky by then |
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| 01:50.27 | Cloudwolf | Any one else having issues with hulu right now? |
| 01:50.35 | Cloudwolf | <.< sorry for that random question |
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| 01:54.13 | alestane | I've never used hulu, so I couldn't tell you. |
| 01:54.23 | alestane | ...sorry for that random answer. |
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| 01:55.31 | Lunessa | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&cn=Unkle - WOO! Check the main hand weapon. :) |
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| 01:59.04 | Nechckn | what a stud =) |
| 01:59.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: linux, by chance? |
| 01:59.38 | Cloudwolf | xp |
| 01:59.42 | Cloudwolf | windows xp |
| 01:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | then no idea |
| 01:59.54 | Cloudwolf | the videos are just failing to run |
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| 02:00.54 | Dagmar | You don't have NoScript installed or something do ya? |
| 02:01.13 | Dagmar | Hulu generally "just works" unless Flash is broken beyond belief |
| 02:01.57 | Dagmar | The ads definitely work at the moment |
| 02:03.49 | Cloudwolf | well i have adblock and thats about it |
| 02:03.53 | Cloudwolf | hulus videos just dont load lol |
| 02:04.06 | Dagmar | They may be wise to your non-consuming ways then |
| 02:05.36 | Dagmar | Either way, I'd slap Chrome in for a moment and see if it works through that |
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| 02:07.41 | Wobin | stupid Hulu |
| 02:07.47 | Wobin | and their stupid non US broadcasting |
| 02:08.13 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM |
| 02:08.15 | Antiarc | This is the best video. |
| 02:09.16 | Wobin | Antiarc, wow... it's almost on par with that Numb3rs "IRC" hack |
| 02:09.33 | Antiarc | Wobin: This guy is destined to be a CSI writer |
| 02:10.02 | Wobin | "and then... SPACE" |
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| 02:11.06 | Wobin | ... 10 people are currently looking at google |
| 02:11.23 | Wobin | this is already beating numb3rs |
| 02:11.26 | Antiarc | I like the part where he deduces that 4 of them are on a shared server. |
| 02:11.42 | Lunessa | Antiarc: ZOMG HAX |
| 02:12.09 | Wobin | wow, I'm glad he's figuring out how to hack stuff |
| 02:12.19 | Wobin | I feel infinitely safer if -this- is the "Next Gen" hackers |
| 02:13.01 | Lunessa | Fortunately, he speaks "l337" |
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| 02:14.43 | cbreak | oh my ... |
| 02:15.01 | cbreak | such an accumulation of cluelessness. |
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| 02:15.34 | Lunessa | I had to shut it off. Stupid is infectious. |
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| 02:15.53 | Hjalte | Can any of you wizards tell me how to make a link launching this function via javascript on my website? |
| 02:15.55 | Hjalte | tinyBrowserPopUp('type','elementid'); |
| 02:15.55 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epEiPmE49Fk |
| 02:16.14 | Dagmar | Signs he's not a hacker: 1. "Hacker" in his 'nym. 2. He's using a GUI tool under Windows. 3. He has an AOL icon on his desktop. 4. "trace arr tee". 5. That nagging feeling you'll have to kill your kids if they turn out like that |
| 02:16.21 | Hjalte | I'm pretty lost, but I am also convinced it's pretty easy, and it's just me failing. |
| 02:16.32 | cbreak | don't use java script |
| 02:16.34 | cbreak | it's evil |
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| 02:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | *javascript |
| 02:17.04 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Don't be hating on AOL. They gave me a nice job for years and I got to make cool shit. :P |
| 02:17.06 | Antiarc | Dagmar: everyone knows that you can't be a hacker unless you can build a GUI interface in Visual Basic |
| 02:17.17 | Hjalte | I'm using a file manager on my website that has a standalone function. I don't get how it works though. I'm not sure how to "launch" it. |
| 02:17.27 | Dagmar | Antiarc: That the GUI tool is some piece of crap webcam software... lol |
| 02:18.07 | cralor | Do arrays work the same in tables? |
| 02:18.15 | Dagmar | Lunessa: They paid you to be an AOL user? |
| 02:18.25 | cbreak | cralor: lua only has one thing: tables |
| 02:18.28 | Lunessa | They paid me to write code. :P |
| 02:18.30 | cbreak | you can use them in many ways though |
| 02:18.35 | Dagmar | I knew they were giving away a lot of minutes, but I never thought they'd stoop to hiring users |
| 02:18.45 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Okay so you know all the users were idiots. |
| 02:18.57 | cralor | cbreak: ok, my term usage is pretty bad. I'm trying to use variable[] in a table {} |
| 02:19.01 | Lunessa | I worked for AOL for 5 years. |
| 02:19.07 | Dagmar | This doens't have any particular bearing on the intelligence level of the admins. |
| 02:19.10 | Dagmar | Just Steve Case |
| 02:19.35 | Lunessa | Steve's role was to be a guy with a vision and charisma. He did those pretty well. |
| 02:19.49 | Lunessa | The rest of the board kept him - mostly - in check. |
| 02:19.50 | cbreak | > t = {1, a = "text", "something"} print(t[1]) print(t[2]) print(t["a"]) |
| 02:19.55 | cbreak | easy. |
| 02:19.59 | Dagmar | Isn't the usual order of those things a little swapped around? |
| 02:20.15 | Dagmar | I mean, I did that very thing during the 90's with a little help from LSD |
| 02:20.21 | Dagmar | I had visions and charisma |
| 02:20.40 | Lunessa | Did it make you a multi-billionaire and invent new and exciting technologies? |
| 02:20.51 | cbreak | you can use integer, string or what ever else you want to use as index |
| 02:21.02 | cralor | see PMs |
| 02:21.03 | Lunessa | Also, did you get to cook the books big-time? |
| 02:21.18 | Dagmar | No, I was too busy keeping his customers from spamming the entire planet at once, most days. |
| 02:21.20 | cbreak | you can use them array style (integer keys, starting with 1), or map style |
| 02:21.30 | Dagmar | Making sure old women got the right medicine, that sort of thing |
| 02:22.03 | Lunessa | Dagmar: So was I. You would not believe how much work I put into make sure it was nigh-impossible to spam usenet with "me too" posts. |
| 02:22.27 | cbreak | that's it. |
| 02:22.28 | cralor | cbreak: I'm just curious how i can get the functionality of variable[i] under a for statement in a SV table |
| 02:22.50 | cbreak | iterators? |
| 02:23.00 | cralor | i'm not in tune with the terms. |
| 02:23.06 | cbreak | for key, value in pairs(tablename) do ... |
| 02:23.32 | cbreak | the loop body gets executed once for each table element |
| 02:23.52 | cralor | do you mind making a pastey.net so i can visualize? |
| 02:24.04 | cbreak | there's nothing more to it |
| 02:24.39 | cralor | ok let me take a stab |
| 02:24.40 | Cloudwolf | Hmm Well hulu works on IE... but not in firefox right now.... me thinks they got wise to adblock plus |
| 02:25.09 | Lunessa | It goes great gangbusters in Safari or Chrome. |
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| 02:26.24 | cralor | cbreak: http://pastey.net/131914 remotely correct? |
| 02:26.46 | cbreak | no |
| 02:26.51 | cralor | :) |
| 02:27.13 | cbreak | [] makes absolutely no sense |
| 02:27.20 | cbreak | you have to put in a key |
| 02:27.48 | cralor | key? |
| 02:27.56 | cbreak | and 1 (the number) is not an allowed variable name |
| 02:28.12 | cbreak | key, yes. The identifier for the field you want to get or set |
| 02:28.16 | cbreak | like t[1] |
| 02:28.18 | cbreak | the key is 1 |
| 02:28.34 | cralor | so can I use i? |
| 02:28.34 | cbreak | or table.concat, table["concat"], the key is "concat" |
| 02:28.38 | cbreak | sure |
| 02:28.53 | cbreak | if i is a variable containing the key |
| 02:29.09 | cralor | ok and what is suppose to be in the place of '1' |
| 02:29.28 | cbreak | or in special case of map style tables, you can use a constructor like this: { i = "value" } which is equivalent to { ["i"] = "value"} |
| 02:29.40 | cbreak | the variable you want to put the value in during iteration |
| 02:30.19 | cralor | ok |
| 02:30.23 | cralor | but other than that i'm good? |
| 02:30.41 | cbreak | try it |
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| 02:30.52 | cralor | http://pastey.net/131917 |
| 02:30.57 | cbreak | I can tell you the right answer, but I am not sure if that would help you |
| 02:30.58 | Cloudwolf | lua> print("hi") |
| 02:30.58 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: hi |
| 02:31.18 | cbreak | cralor: makes no sense |
| 02:31.21 | Cloudwolf | cralor you can test out to see if things work with the lua bot. |
| 02:31.38 | cbreak | let me show you an example: |
| 02:31.41 | cralor | ok |
| 02:32.19 | cbreak | > t = {1, 2, a = 3, 4} for k, v in pairs(t) do print("k="..k..", v="..v) end |
| 02:32.28 | cbreak | lua> t = {1, 2, a = 3, 4} for k, v in pairs(t) do print("k="..k..", v="..v) end |
| 02:32.28 | lua_bot | cbreak: k=1, v=1, k=2, v=2, k=3, v=4, k=a, v=3 |
| 02:32.29 | cbreak | so :) |
| 02:33.41 | cralor | hmm |
| 02:36.24 | cralor | i guess i'm still confused about what my goal is. i'm trying to store messages into my SV table. |
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| 02:37.09 | cralor | how do i make a "key" that can hold multiple things for later use? |
| 02:37.29 | Cloudwolf | cralor a table is like a variable that concerves name space. (even if thats not technecaly true thats how i view it) table={ } table["hi"]="hi" table["bye"]="bye" is a kind of simpler way to just having a lot of variables named things along with being able to iterate throught he table in a way you coudln't with plain variables. |
| 02:38.05 | Dagmar | Some (possibly crazy) people call them "associative arrays" |
| 02:38.05 | cbreak | cralor: tip: put a table into a table. |
| 02:38.10 | cbreak | I call them map :) |
| 02:38.39 | Cloudwolf | table={} table[othertable]={} |
| 02:38.54 | cbreak | table is a very bad name for a table |
| 02:38.54 | Cloudwolf | ima be quiet now as i doubt im any help here. |
| 02:39.04 | cbreak | just as a side remark :) |
| 02:39.08 | Cloudwolf | i know cbreak i'll break everything :D |
| 02:41.11 | Lunessa | Yo Lua. I heard you like tables, so I let you put a table, in your table, in your table.... you know where this is going... |
| 02:41.12 | cralor | lua> db = { a = {} } db.a[1] = "hi" print(db.a[1]) |
| 02:41.12 | lua_bot | cralor: hi |
| 02:41.37 | cralor | thanks guys |
| 02:42.55 | Dagmar | Bonus points if you know what happens when you store a reference to the parent table in a child and let WoW try and save it |
| 02:43.21 | cbreak | bonus points if you know how to fix it :D |
| 02:43.34 | Lunessa | afk - foodage |
| 02:43.36 | Dagmar | That bit's easy. You whack the coder on the head with a rolled up paper |
| 02:43.49 | cbreak | try saving _G. |
| 02:43.56 | Dagmar | Editble donuts good. Ephermeral donuts bad. |
| 02:44.08 | Dagmar | s/Editble/Edible/; |
| 02:44.29 | cbreak | Donuts + Emmentaler. |
| 02:45.14 | Dagmar | You used to be able to do a stunt like that with perl by handing %main to Data::Dumper but at some point they decided that was an abusively dangerous thing to do and killed it |
| 02:45.57 | Dagmar | I thought it was so cool I scribbled up a sysfork() function and was using ssh tunneling to jump to new machines |
| 02:46.28 | cbreak | ... perl people actually removed a useless functionality? |
| 02:46.31 | cbreak | that's unprecedented! |
| 02:46.41 | cbreak | (and because it was dangerous no less...) |
| 02:47.28 | Dagmar | It wasn't useless |
| 02:47.32 | Dagmar | Seriously. |
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| 02:47.55 | Dagmar | It would dump the entire program, everything you included with use; as well as the current contents of all the variables |
| 02:48.20 | Dagmar | ...which you could just funnel straight into another perl process and then call the routine of your choice |
| 02:48.49 | Dagmar | It did mean you had no choice but to be _really_ tidy about cleaning up your variables tho |
| 02:50.20 | cbreak | $_ $! $? $) |
| 02:50.29 | cbreak | programming by dagobert duck emoticons. |
| 02:50.43 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone around who is good with powershell? |
| 02:50.59 | cbreak | I've survived an encounter with it |
| 02:51.07 | cbreak | (that's quite a feat for a mac person :) |
| 02:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | how the crap do return values work? |
| 02:51.13 | Dagmar | You forgot $/ |
| 02:51.29 | cbreak | return values? |
| 02:51.37 | cbreak | you mean %errorlevel%? |
| 02:51.43 | cbreak | or the actual output? |
| 02:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 02:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean, say |
| 02:51.55 | ScytheBlade1 | function whatever { return $True } |
| 02:51.59 | ScytheBlade1 | as opposed to |
| 02:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | function whatever { return "True" } |
| 02:52.04 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 02:52.10 | ScytheBlade1 | or even |
| 02:52.15 | ScytheBlade1 | function whatever { "True" } |
| 02:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | or perhaps! |
| 02:52.28 | ScytheBlade1 | function whatever { $var } |
| 02:52.34 | ScytheBlade1 | supposedly, all of those return values |
| 02:52.37 | ScytheBlade1 | w t f ? |
| 02:52.48 | cbreak | like, the last expression? |
| 02:52.55 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 02:53.01 | ScytheBlade1 | and the { "True" } |
| 02:53.10 | Dagmar | http://keithhill.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5A8D2641E0963A97!811.entry |
| 02:53.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I read that |
| 02:53.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It is making me wtf |
| 02:53.34 | Dagmar | lol |
| 02:53.39 | Dagmar | I can see that |
| 02:54.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I really don't know if I've ever seen anything stupider in the language |
| 02:54.35 | ScytheBlade1 | function whatever { "a"; "b" } |
| 02:54.37 | Dagmar | To put it bluntly, because they refuse to, you don't get to pass arguments back to the parent like that in powershell |
| 02:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | will return two values, AND print them |
| 02:55.34 | cbreak | even if you pipe them to something else? |
| 02:55.37 | cbreak | or store them? |
| 02:55.46 | ScytheBlade1 | that won't |
| 02:55.50 | Dagmar | Like they begrudgingly mention about halfway down the page, "return $Proc" is effectively "$Proc; return" |
| 02:55.52 | ScytheBlade1 | $var = "a" |
| 02:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | won't print or return anything |
| 02:56.09 | ScytheBlade1 | but just $var or $a will both print and return |
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| 02:57.36 | ScytheBlade1 | so there is no way to print a string without returning it as well |
| 02:57.37 | ScytheBlade1 | awesome. |
| 02:58.01 | cbreak | write-host |
| 02:58.02 | Dagmar | That's because "just" $var is actually write-output "$var" |
| 02:58.06 | cbreak | they write-host about that |
| 02:58.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ah right, forgot about that |
| 02:58.16 | ScytheBlade1 | That helps |
| 02:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | glances at his code containing Read-Host |
| 02:59.01 | cbreak | my first powershell script has a .Net gui |
| 02:59.14 | cbreak | because I hated the command line api too much... |
| 02:59.21 | Dagmar | I'd sooner install ActiveTcl |
| 02:59.22 | cbreak | (and I found a nice example for the gui :) |
| 02:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That frightens me |
| 03:00.03 | cbreak | what do you want to do ScytheBlade1? |
| 03:00.10 | cbreak | it's probably easier in bash. :) |
| 03:00.54 | ScytheBlade1 | recursively enumerate group membership in AD, including subgroups, using only powershell as it is the only scripting language I have access to at work |
| 03:01.23 | cbreak | hmm. |
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| 03:01.54 | ScytheBlade1 | !g DirectoryServices.DirectorySearcher |
| 03:01.55 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: DirectorySearcher Class (System.DirectoryServices) <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.directoryservices.directorysearcher.aspx> |
| 03:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | there honestly isn't much to it |
| 03:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Aside from language "functionality" |
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| 03:04.44 | cbreak | I do that in my second PowerShell script |
| 03:05.58 | cbreak | a subset of that at least |
| 03:06.11 | ScytheBlade1 | doesn't enumerage subgroups? |
| 03:06.25 | ScytheBlade1 | because just a straight group membership listing is all of 10 lines tops |
| 03:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | 7 actually |
| 03:08.05 | cbreak | it searches for users that match a name fragment |
| 03:08.14 | cbreak | and lists their data, including group membership |
| 03:08.19 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah not hard at all |
| 03:08.22 | ScytheBlade1 | not my problem anyway |
| 03:08.24 | cbreak | and then you can click delete, kill, or what ever |
| 03:08.46 | ScytheBlade1 | so you're cloning ADUC? :/ |
| 03:09.14 | Dagmar | There's no scientific acclaim in cloning asheep or abeagle. those have already been done |
| 03:09.23 | cbreak | for some stupid reason, microsoft decided |
| 03:09.42 | cbreak | that you couldn't administrate in the AD snapin anymore |
| 03:09.47 | ScytheBlade1 | what? |
| 03:09.49 | cbreak | but had to use the powershell for it |
| 03:09.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ... I do all day, every day |
| 03:10.02 | cbreak | when you use that exchange 2007 thing |
| 03:10.13 | cbreak | apparently they removed the ad integration |
| 03:10.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 07 comes with a snapin.. |
| 03:10.24 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 03:10.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:10.33 | ScytheBlade1 | start --> run --> mmc --> ctrl+m |
| 03:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | add, add, add |
| 03:10.37 | ScytheBlade1 | profit? |
| 03:10.50 | cbreak | no |
| 03:10.55 | cbreak | it's microsoft crap :) |
| 03:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I think you're smoking something |
| 03:11.09 | cbreak | I have no idea why we couldn't use it anymore |
| 03:11.34 | cbreak | but some MSCE told them they couldn't use the AD integration anymore |
| 03:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | because I have the exchange tools and standard AD tools... in the same mmc window |
| 03:11.53 | Lunessa | Are you sure you're not trying to admin an Exchange 2003 server from say Vista or 7 and that's why you can't use the "snap in" ? |
| 03:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | that too |
| 03:12.12 | ScytheBlade1 | or trying to admin 07 with 03 admin tools |
| 03:12.20 | cbreak | I didn't try to administrate anything anyway :) |
| 03:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | err, 10 with 07/03 |
| 03:12.23 | Dagmar | It's amazing how you microsoft people have made me love kerberos |
| 03:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: AD is kerberos as well! |
| 03:12.43 | Dagmar | No, it's not. |
| 03:12.50 | cbreak | they used windows XP clients, with exchange 2007 |
| 03:12.50 | Dagmar | They just want you to think that. |
| 03:13.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno about you, but kinit on a linux box against an AD server works great |
| 03:13.04 | cbreak | the migration was extremely hairy |
| 03:13.29 | Dagmar | Yes, but the moment you make a proprietary extention to kerberos, you're not allowed to call it kerberos anymore |
| 03:13.33 | Dagmar | It's in the spec |
| 03:13.53 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't change the part where it'll return valid kerberos principals no problem |
| 03:14.29 | Dagmar | Frankly, I'll stick with using an actual krb server |
| 03:14.34 | Dagmar | ...and it's admin tools. |
| 03:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got one too, don't get me wrong |
| 03:15.05 | Dagmar | I used to think it was the devil, and then AD came along and sodomized a bunch of nuns right in front of my eyes |
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| 03:15.51 | cbreak | interestingly, the domain migration worked ok. But the e-mail migration :/ |
| 03:15.53 | cbreak | so many problems |
| 03:16.20 | cbreak | some morronic users seem to have used their mailbox as file server. |
| 03:16.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Domain migrations tend to be entirely painless |
| 03:16.48 | cbreak | there were some problems |
| 03:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | add a server, promote to DC |
| 03:16.54 | ScytheBlade1 | demote other server |
| 03:17.00 | cbreak | with renaming users |
| 03:17.02 | ScytheBlade1 | repeat until on new version |
| 03:17.29 | cbreak | but once we stopped doing that, it worked |
| 03:17.44 | cbreak | but the mailbox migration :/ |
| 03:18.01 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, that is a manual, painful process |
| 03:18.16 | Dagmar | "Attention users: Starting 02/02, your mailboxes will have a hard quota of 150Mb applied to them. Should your mailbox exceed 150Mb in size, the oldest items will be deleted until it doesn't. There will be no restore from backup tapes for deleted mail. Have a nice day." |
| 03:18.19 | Lunessa | I work with AD all day. I don't hate it any more than any other system I've ever used. |
| 03:18.25 | Dagmar | ^ only way to stop people having OMGLARGE mail spools |
| 03:18.27 | cbreak | I was working there in end-user support. So I had to tell them "yes, we are working on it... yes..." |
| 03:18.52 | cbreak | some users had mailboxes with over 2 GB! |
| 03:19.00 | cbreak | unfortunately, most of them were important doctors |
| 03:19.04 | cbreak | their secretaries |
| 03:19.09 | cbreak | or managerial staff |
| 03:19.31 | cbreak | (the ones who complain most) |
| 03:19.43 | Dagmar | Yeah it's awesome how well exchange handles those, too |
| 03:19.59 | cbreak | I wound't say "well" |
| 03:20.03 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 03:20.22 | cbreak | one of those crazy people used |
| 03:20.33 | Dagmar | Having watched mail admins spend four days, _around the clock_ trying to migrate things off a giant exchange deployment, I can believe it |
| 03:20.37 | cbreak | an outlook data file on her personal file server share! |
| 03:20.44 | cbreak | that also caused problems without end |
| 03:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I see users every day who have a 7GB mailbox and 30GB+ of outlook PSTs |
| 03:21.03 | cbreak | every time someone reallocated cluster resources (I still have no idea what they meant with that) |
| 03:21.06 | cbreak | something broke |
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| 03:21.11 | cbreak | and her e-mail stopped working |
| 03:21.14 | Lunessa | We stop letting you send mail at 100mb. When people complain I tell them that the HD on their computer is 230 GB - they have storage. Quit hogging the server. |
| 03:21.29 | Dagmar | Damn right, Lunessa |
| 03:21.35 | cbreak | impossible to do there |
| 03:21.40 | cbreak | local storage is not backed up |
| 03:21.42 | cbreak | not encrypted |
| 03:21.48 | cbreak | and not portable |
| 03:22.10 | Lunessa | we back up. We don't encrypt. |
| 03:22.13 | cbreak | for most people there, a computer is allocated to many different people |
| 03:22.30 | Dagmar | Yeah wouldn't it be nice if Windows actuall handled mulitple users properly |
| 03:22.40 | cbreak | that kind of worked |
| 03:22.54 | cbreak | roaming profiles that is |
| 03:23.00 | Dagmar | lol |
| 03:23.11 | cbreak | until we started renaming users to the new "naming scheme" (which was stupid!) |
| 03:23.21 | cbreak | somehow, window then managed to totally screw up everything |
| 03:23.23 | Dagmar | I have sat here and at logout watched RP diligently copying files to my storage space. |
| 03:23.39 | Dagmar | Files which actually were entirely owned by another user in the office, that normally I couldn't get at (because I look) |
| 03:23.56 | cbreak | RP? |
| 03:24.00 | Dagmar | roaming profiles |
| 03:24.07 | Dagmar | I am using X-marks here at the office for a reason. |
| 03:24.08 | batrick | anyone here get dragon age working with wine? |
| 03:24.18 | Dagmar | RP likes to up and destroy my ff bookmarks on a regular basis |
| 03:24.46 | Dagmar | Generally this reason being that I dared to log in to any other machine on the network while still being logged in at my primary desktop |
| 03:25.23 | cbreak | :/ |
| 03:25.24 | Dagmar | At home, I just point My Documents at a fileshare. |
| 03:25.31 | Dagmar | Much, much less chaos. |
| 03:26.26 | cbreak | they used both |
| 03:26.38 | cbreak | we had a redir thingie, which I have no idea how it worked |
| 03:26.42 | cbreak | a roaming profile share |
| 03:26.46 | cbreak | and a documents share |
| 03:27.51 | Dagmar | The information about where your My Documents folder (since it's not "real") gets stored in your login profile |
| 03:28.02 | Dagmar | That winds up being transferred in when you login with rp enabled |
| 03:28.22 | Dagmar | Other virtualized share information does as well, afaik |
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| 03:45.06 | Lunessa | Roaming Profiles are a pain in my backside, luckily, they're only on for students. |
| 03:45.45 | Dagmar | It's cool how most of the stuff the MS sales reps used to argue made their products superior somehow never quite work worth a damn |
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| 03:46.15 | tekkub | Anyone with a few minutes to spare mind filling out a lil form? It's for Trey's first biology lab. http://goo.gl/J0Q2 |
| 03:46.37 | Lunessa | Meh, I don't have MS products - other than Exchange, Outlook, and .... ACESS. |
| 03:46.39 | cbreak | "goo". how fitting for bioloty |
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| 03:46.44 | Lunessa | Access even |
| 03:46.56 | cbreak | Lunessa: Denied! |
| 03:47.41 | Lunessa | cbreak: I like Windows. Windows 7 is actually pleasant to use. |
| 03:47.44 | Seerah | tekkub: just the one question? done :) |
| 03:47.55 | Lunessa | Outlook? THE SPAWN OF SATAN! |
| 03:48.05 | Lunessa | tekkub: Also done. |
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| 03:52.38 | tekkub | domo ^^ |
| 03:52.59 | tekkub | and it's actually like 5 questions when you graph out the responses, of course |
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| 04:07.21 | Lunessa | Yes, but he's doing bio, not stats. |
| 04:07.52 | Shirik | tackles Seerah |
| 04:07.59 | Seerah | tickles Shirik |
| 04:10.00 | Nechckn | tekkub only 1 question, right? |
| 04:10.07 | tekkub | aye |
| 04:10.11 | Nechckn | kk |
| 04:10.26 | tekkub | yea this is just a scientific method thing |
| 04:10.37 | tekkub | he had to come up with something and test it |
| 04:10.42 | tem | oh hey |
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| 04:10.46 | Nechckn | Ah.. gotcha. Good question, though. =) |
| 04:10.46 | tem | blood queen 25 down |
| 04:10.50 | tem | yay, I guess |
| 04:11.10 | Nechckn | I think it would be interesting to see responses, but I am silly, too. |
| 04:11.17 | Nechckn | Yay, tem!! |
| 04:11.25 | Nechckn | pats tem on the back. |
| 04:11.38 | Nechckn | Teach that dirty girl a lesson... |
| 04:13.16 | tem | I'm in such a terrible mood |
| 04:13.40 | Nechckn | Why so glum, chum? |
| 04:14.45 | Lunessa | Tem - gratz on BQ25. Sorry you're not happy though. |
| 04:15.42 | tem | I'll rant when we're done killing putricide |
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| 04:21.08 | Arrowmaster | so i wreaked my car on the way home tonight.... |
| 04:21.17 | Arrowmaster | fucking snow |
| 04:21.20 | Arrowmaster | fucking tree |
| 04:22.06 | Lunessa | Are you ok? |
| 04:22.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:22.14 | Lunessa | Aside from being pissed and now carless. |
| 04:22.57 | Arrowmaster | the cops and paramedics were concerned though just because the front end looked fucked up to all hell |
| 04:23.08 | Lunessa | Crumple-zones |
| 04:23.26 | Arrowmaster | saturn sc2, unibody design |
| 04:23.38 | Arrowmaster | my last saturn just got dented from a tbone |
| 04:24.14 | Lunessa | in 2000 when I flipped my pathfinder and ripped out the whole bottom of the vehicle, I walked away with a slight bruise and a small burn from touching a hot part getting out of the car. The car was scrap. |
| 04:24.31 | Lunessa | I drove an SC2 for a while. :) |
| 04:25.21 | Nechckn | As long as you are okay, that is the important part. (Yeah, that does not give you wheels with which to tool around, but it is better than being screwed up and in the hospital) |
| 04:25.23 | tem | oh thank god |
| 04:25.25 | Arrowmaster | hmm i dont think the pictures of my wreaked SL or the camry that looked like something chewed it up and spit it out are on this computer |
| 04:25.27 | tem | we oneshot pp |
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| 04:26.43 | Arrowmaster | http://www.kbb.com/kbb/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?YearId=2001&VehicleClass=UsedCar&ManufacturerId=44&Condition=Excellent&ModelId=410&PriceType=Retail&VehicleId=4996&Mileage=59900&SelectionHistory=4996|32344|45309|0|0|192580|true |
| 04:26.50 | Arrowmaster | hmm not bad |
| 04:26.59 | Thunder_Child | "Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night." that is a highly disturbing thought |
| 04:27.00 | Arrowmaster | hopefully i can get that much from insurance |
| 04:27.33 | Arrowmaster | only paid $10000 for the car back in november 2004 |
| 04:28.17 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I got like $16K for my pathfinder after paying $30K for it 4 years earlier. |
| 04:28.45 | Arrowmaster | i drive cheap cars |
| 04:28.56 | Thunder_Child | "You should never say anything to a woman that even remotely suggests that you think she’s pregnant unless you can see an actual baby emerging from her at that moment. " |
| 04:29.15 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: And even then, it's wise to abstain. |
| 04:29.23 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 04:29.43 | Arrowmaster | my 96 SL was like maybe $12k new when my mom bought it, i wreaked it in 04 and after fighting the other guys insurance company they finally gave me $3500 for it maybe |
| 04:30.20 | Lunessa | man, you've wrecked more cars than me! |
| 04:30.27 | Arrowmaster | but i got them to pay for my $1000 dell 2001fp lcd monitor i had in the car at the time |
| 04:30.42 | Arrowmaster | and they paid for a new computer case since the one in the trunk was twisted as fuck |
| 04:31.00 | Arrowmaster | im still using that lcd monitor btw |
| 04:31.12 | Arrowmaster | hehe the stand has a minor defect from the crash |
| 04:31.24 | Lunessa | later guys going home. |
| 04:31.39 | Arrowmaster | and my friend worked at the computer store that i took it to for an insurance estimate |
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| 04:33.03 | tem | I'm in a lousy mood because my guild is awful |
| 04:33.07 | tem | we clear content |
| 04:33.08 | tem | but like |
| 04:33.14 | tem | everyone is douchebags to each other |
| 04:33.16 | tem | and I hate it |
| 04:35.43 | Thunder_Child | get a new guild? |
| 04:39.08 | Shirik | amro you CANNOT do that |
| 04:39.31 | Shirik | if you're passing "this" in the member initializer list, chances are you're doing something wrong |
| 04:39.41 | Shirik | and valgrind is right to complain |
| 04:41.06 | Nechckn | I don't see how you wreck multiple cars... must be nasty luck of some sort. |
| 04:43.32 | Thunder_Child | you hit multiple things |
| 04:44.11 | tem | Thunder_Child, I can't right at this moment |
| 04:44.14 | tem | for multiple reasons |
| 04:44.29 | tem | 1)I'm a tank. finding a new guild as a tank is nightmare |
| 04:44.53 | tem | 2) finding a new guild in the middle of a teir is rough unless you find a struggling guild |
| 04:44.59 | Thunder_Child | sooo...you mean you can, it would simply be wise not to |
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| 04:51.39 | Arrowmaster | Nechckn: the first one was somebody else crossing the median on the highway, hitting a semi, bouncing off, and me tboning it on the drivers side |
| 04:51.44 | Arrowmaster | not my fault |
| 04:52.24 | Arrowmaster | this one was me coming down a snowy hill, not speeding, and sliding off the road and into a tree |
| 04:52.35 | Arrowmaster | the brakes didnt do shit and i was pumping them |
| 04:52.58 | Arrowmaster | it was just slicker than shit out |
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| 04:53.18 | Arrowmaster | multiple people had trouble stopping |
| 04:53.34 | Thunder_Child | L2snowtire? |
| 04:54.00 | Arrowmaster | i was actually just about to get brand new tires |
| 04:54.12 | Thunder_Child | or chains, they might have helped on slick |
| 04:54.14 | Arrowmaster | they were at 60k miles i think and needed replaced |
| 04:54.32 | Thunder_Child | though unlike snow tires you cant keep them on all the time |
| 04:54.41 | Arrowmaster | it wasnt snowing when i left, and i dont even know if chains are legal here |
| 04:57.43 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 04:57.57 | Shirik | Who here speaks french? Adys is gone |
| 04:58.32 | Thunder_Child | purl and google do |
| 04:58.43 | Shirik | no |
| 04:58.45 | Shirik | that's my problem |
| 04:58.49 | Shirik | ~x fr en il n'existe pas |
| 04:58.58 | Shirik | ok that makes sense |
| 04:59.03 | Shirik | but google is translating that to "no" |
| 04:59.10 | Shirik | and I'm sitting here like "wtf do you mean 'no'" |
| 04:59.21 | Thunder_Child | no means no Shirik |
| 04:59.24 | Thunder_Child | and so does baa |
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| 05:24.19 | bleeter | haha windows 98 on nokia n900 http://is.gd/73myt |
| 05:25.13 | Nechckn | HakR! |
| 05:25.42 | Nechckn | Although 98 is one of those things that maintains a tiny place in my heart. |
| 05:26.48 | Thunder_Child | could be worse, could be ME |
| 05:27.01 | Nechckn | exactly, Thunder_Child |
| 05:27.12 | bleeter | MS BOB |
| 05:27.25 | bleeter | and if you've never used it... one word. DON'T |
| 05:27.27 | Nechckn | goodness.. no threats, bleeter!!! |
| 05:27.51 | Nechckn | But that was Melinda Gates' project... so it must have been good. |
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| 05:28.13 | bleeter | there's that story that goes the only thing good that happened in the MS BoB project was that Bill got laid |
| 05:28.22 | bleeter | thus distracted from totally running the company |
| 05:28.23 | Nechckn | is not sure exactly how much of it was her work, but so goes the mythology. |
| 05:28.48 | Nechckn | heheheh |
| 05:29.12 | Nechckn | or trying to run other companies, perhaps =) |
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| 05:34.15 | frontendloader | ugh still getting crashes in dalaran for exceeding 2gb memory usage :( |
| 05:35.23 | frontendloader | maybe an ATI driver update will help |
| 05:35.34 | frontendloader | though doubtful |
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| 05:39.09 | Slackwise | Lol. |
| 05:39.11 | Slackwise | http://slackwi.se/files/images/screenshots/auctioneer2html/auctioneer2html_001.png |
| 05:41.18 | Slackwise | That makes me sad at myself. |
| 05:41.26 | Slackwise | And at the same time laugh too hard at the easy eval(). |
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| 05:46.36 | awweaver | Liek OMG |
| 05:49.19 | Thunder_Child | there needs to be more use of the word floozy |
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| 06:03.58 | Arrowmaster | so suggestions for a cheap kinda sporty subcompact car with good gas mileage? |
| 06:06.38 | frontendloader | Slackwise: why would you do that in ruby :/ |
| 06:07.04 | Slackwise | frontendloader: Because I've got bigger plans here. :P |
| 06:07.42 | Slackwise | I pondered doing it in Lua, but Ruby comes to mind first. |
| 06:08.02 | frontendloader | doing something web/rails based? |
| 06:08.11 | Slackwise | Potentially. |
| 06:08.20 | Slackwise | I'm not sure at the scope here. |
| 06:08.28 | Slackwise | I have a bank alt full of stuff to sell. |
| 06:08.32 | Slackwise | I want to maximize profit. |
| 06:08.36 | Slackwise | Between crafting/selling raw. |
| 06:08.38 | Slackwise | etc |
| 06:08.53 | Slackwise | So I obviously ran Auctioneer a bunch of times, every day, few times per day. |
| 06:08.57 | Slackwise | To get lots of data for averages. |
| 06:09.20 | frontendloader | auctioneer is bad at trending |
| 06:09.33 | Slackwise | Then I came up with this idea... |
| 06:09.34 | Slackwise | http://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=0Au0AWWi-QLEodDNIdnhLbVBWVXJzeUtXM05UZEQzMWc&hl=en |
| 06:09.38 | frontendloader | having lots of data isn't necessarily a good thing with it |
| 06:09.58 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: mini? |
| 06:10.03 | Thunder_Child | it is classified as a sports car |
| 06:10.21 | Arrowmaster | whats the price range on those? |
| 06:10.26 | Slackwise | frontendloader: The goal isn't really trending, but my own trending and knowledge applied. |
| 06:10.33 | Thunder_Child | !g mini |
| 06:10.34 | batbot | Thunder_Child: MINIUSA.com <http://www.miniusa.com/> |
| 06:10.37 | Slackwise | For my realm's AH. |
| 06:10.51 | Slackwise | I was thinking "Oh hey, I can parse straight from Auctioneer to the Google Docs API" |
| 06:11.01 | frontendloader | I've got something like that started |
| 06:11.05 | Slackwise | (Which I guess was part of the reason I chose Ruby, which has a handful of GData libraries.) |
| 06:11.20 | frontendloader | well, I've got an addon like that started using ace libs and whatnot |
| 06:11.26 | Slackwise | Then I was like" wait a minute, I can customize it and make my own HTML pages" |
| 06:11.32 | frontendloader | I'm not going to go as monolithic as auctioneer |
| 06:11.45 | frontendloader | it'll be strictly statistics |
| 06:11.49 | frontendloader | and trends |
| 06:12.02 | Slackwise | Then I was like "Wait a minute, I can script my own one-button-max-profit mod for WoW to sell my items for me exactly how I would..." |
| 06:12.20 | Slackwise | So now I'm lost as to the scope of my project here. |
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| 06:15.08 | frontendloader | I see |
| 06:15.30 | frontendloader | I think glypher does a pretty good job of that so far |
| 06:15.51 | frontendloader | for glyphs anyway |
| 06:16.16 | Slackwise | I guess my goal is to first produce some local AH data for profession crafts and share with my guildies/friends. |
| 06:16.25 | Slackwise | And then from that, build my custom mod to sell my stuff at max profit. |
| 06:20.01 | Dagmar | You mght want to assign a value to your time |
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| 06:20.37 | Dagmar | I worried about maxing my profits out at one point, then I realized if I was only spending 10 minutes and making 200-300g a day, who cares |
| 06:21.20 | Slackwise | Dagmar: I prefer to be efficient. |
| 06:25.42 | frontendloader | for some people half of the fun is figuring out how to be more efficient |
| 06:25.49 | frontendloader | even if that does kill your overall efficiency |
| 06:26.29 | frontendloader | I'm uh |
| 06:26.44 | Slackwise | I'm a programmer--that's half the fun. :P |
| 06:26.53 | frontendloader | Well my end goal here is to hit the gold cap |
| 06:27.04 | Slackwise | I just want to alleviate my bank toon time. |
| 06:27.05 | frontendloader | Almost there too, 40k to go |
| 06:27.10 | Slackwise | Because spending time in the AH is annoying. |
| 06:27.17 | Slackwise | I want to streamline all of this. |
| 06:27.24 | Slackwise | So I don't have to really think about making money. |
| 06:27.35 | Slackwise | Send everything to my bank toon, then just press 1 button and be done with it. |
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| 08:31.17 | Arrowmaster | and im questioning this one sites accuracy, there are many "2004 Mazda RX-8 Manual" listed but then they all say automatic transmission, and they range from 4cyl to 8cyl which is just wrong |
| 08:34.51 | Arrowmaster | i found a 1995 Chevrolet Corvette V8 manual transmission with 67K miles on it for $14k..... |
| 08:35.08 | Arrowmaster | removable hardtop i think.... |
| 08:42.48 | zenzio | Super SS Rally GT Fastback Hardtop Sprint, do-do-dooo |
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| 08:47.22 | Fisker | :( |
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| 09:01.09 | Trinka | good morning everybody, does anyone knows an "auto buff addon" |
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| 09:01.18 | olafski | what would that do? |
| 09:02.01 | Trinka | in detail: you choose some buffs wich should be refreshed everytime the effect lost |
| 09:03.58 | olafski | that doesn't exist |
| 09:04.02 | Trinka | if there is no existing addon, this will be my first ^^ |
| 09:04.09 | olafski | you cannot auto-cast spells |
| 09:04.17 | ccox | you can't apply them automatically |
| 09:04.22 | Trinka | :( |
| 09:04.26 | olafski | you could go the pallypower way though |
| 09:04.30 | olafski | I guess that's the next best thing |
| 09:04.31 | ccox | but there are several that will tell you when they expire, and let you click to reapply |
| 09:04.39 | olafski | or that |
| 09:04.51 | ccox | for other classes, healbot, grid, etc. have settings to do that |
| 09:05.22 | ccox | and there are around 200 addons for shaman totem management |
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| 09:05.27 | Trinka | i'm not a shaman :P |
| 09:05.39 | msoul | will start one then |
| 09:05.45 | msoul | well even |
| 09:06.15 | Trinka | but, with makros you're able to cast... but not in addons |
| 09:06.32 | ccox | macros still need a key press |
| 09:06.42 | ccox | nothing can cast for you |
| 09:06.46 | Trinka | well, you're right |
| 09:06.49 | ccox | they all require a key or a click |
| 09:06.59 | msoul | and youy do not need neither of them if you're planning not to raid like moi |
| 09:07.19 | ccox | you still need them for heroic dungeons |
| 09:07.22 | msoul | i'm quitting raiding and start to quest and level up chars as i got fed up with the stupidity that goes around these days |
| 09:07.58 | msoul | "Send me your GS, stats and achievement and come to dala nbank to do gear inspect" |
| 09:08.15 | Trinka | but is there a way to cast more than one spell in one makro |
| 09:08.19 | msoul | on top of that death coice is reserved for instance |
| 09:08.29 | ccox | anyone that anal and clueless, needs to be publicly ridiculed |
| 09:08.29 | msoul | yes |
| 09:08.46 | msoul | ccox: could you elabotrate then? |
| 09:08.47 | olafski | msoul: you can actually raid without those things though |
| 09:08.51 | olafski | msoul: join a guild ;) |
| 09:08.52 | Trinka | and casting all spells with one keypress |
| 09:08.58 | ccox | msoul - gear score tells you nothing about the player |
| 09:09.14 | ccox | msoul: and many good raiders couldn't care less about achievements |
| 09:09.26 | olafski | ccox: gearscore tells you if someone with crap gear is trying to join your raid though |
| 09:09.29 | msoul | olafski: i am in one... hard to find a decent guild though.... none flask up none even wants to listen if you suggest something only 4 that has actual brain to raid with |
| 09:09.42 | ccox | olafski: only at a really, really course level |
| 09:09.44 | msoul | ccox: yes tell that to the idiots |
| 09:09.50 | olafski | and inspecting them tells you whether they bother to enchant/gem their gear |
| 09:09.55 | ccox | olafski: all it'll tell you is epic versus blues/greens |
| 09:09.58 | olafski | msoul: yer I joined a new guild too and they're shit :P |
| 09:10.12 | olafski | ccox: no, it'll tell you which level of epics too |
| 09:10.22 | ccox | beyond that, it's skill and good choices on gear, and GS can't tell you enough |
| 09:10.22 | msoul | olafski: it hurts when you wipe 234987347985 times and none knows what to do |
| 09:10.26 | olafski | you could also use elitistgroup to inspect them and it'll go even further |
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| 09:10.36 | ccox | both are useless |
| 09:10.37 | olafski | ccox: he also said "come to dala bank to inspect" |
| 09:10.44 | olafski | that'll be your opinion ;) |
| 09:10.54 | ccox | that part, maybe, though I just check the armory or be.imba |
| 09:11.01 | olafski | if I have someone in my group whom gearscore says "6 pvp pieces" about, I'm pretty sure they'll suck :) |
| 09:11.15 | olafski | sure be imba is much different from wowheroes.. :P |
| 09:11.26 | ccox | I've seen too many people go by gearscore, and the retards still couldn't finish the trash |
| 09:11.36 | ccox | olafski: not necessarily |
| 09:11.37 | olafski | you're turning this around |
| 09:11.47 | olafski | I said you can tell if someone with crap gear tries to join your group |
| 09:11.49 | Fisker | olafski is a n00b |
| 09:11.51 | olafski | I didn't say you can see if they are good players |
| 09:12.05 | ccox | olafski: gearscore doesn't tell you if they're good players |
| 09:12.11 | olafski | sigh |
| 09:12.19 | olafski | are you blind? |
| 09:12.23 | ccox | olafski: you can have great players in mediocre gear |
| 09:12.34 | ccox | and you can have pathetic players in great gear |
| 09:12.40 | olafski | < olafski> I DIDN'T say you can see if they are good players |
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| 09:12.53 | ccox | and yet you think gearscore is USEFUL? |
| 09:12.58 | olafski | yarp |
| 09:13.12 | olafski | no matter how good someone is, with crappy blue gear they won't be able to make much difference |
| 09:13.20 | nevcairiel | medioce gear is not the problem, crap gear is the problem :P |
| 09:13.45 | ccox | you can check crap gear pretty quickly without any sort of gearscore |
| 09:13.53 | olafski | sure, but gearscore is a nice summary |
| 09:13.55 | olafski | elitistgroup is better |
| 09:13.56 | msoul | i trust a person with naxx gear who knows what to do than toc gear with braindead |
| 09:14.06 | olafski | nevcairiel: yes :) |
| 09:14.21 | olafski | likewise achievements are a nice "tool", they don't tell you everything but the person at least has been to the instance once |
| 09:14.24 | nevcairiel | but i would never install an addon for that, armory works fine |
| 09:14.33 | olafski | though achievements are easily faked, and nobody bothers to check this :P |
| 09:14.35 | ccox | too much fixation on measuring an imaginary number |
| 09:14.39 | msoul | olafski: planning to level up a char or two and farm gold only until the next patch "if i don't quit wow before that" |
| 09:15.30 | olafski | that sounds like a lot of fun |
| 09:15.33 | ccox | (and a few websites dedicated to defining the relative weights of the imaginary numbers) |
| 09:15.34 | krka_ | what is acceptable gearscore level? |
| 09:15.40 | olafski | nevcairiel: sure, armory works, but I like that EG sums it up for me ;) |
| 09:15.50 | olafski | I have no idea krka_ :P |
| 09:15.57 | olafski | I don't lead pugs |
| 09:16.03 | olafski | and I only join them for the weekly raid, and that only if it's naxx or ulduar |
| 09:16.09 | msoul | dunno what class i should start leveling rogue or druid |
| 09:16.27 | msoul | olafski: i do join them if it's 25 man :) |
| 09:16.50 | olafski | I don't .. pugging is horrible :P |
| 09:16.56 | olafski | though my guild isn't much better |
| 09:16.57 | msoul | i can imagine |
| 09:17.02 | olafski | they're horribly unorganised |
| 09:17.12 | olafski | yet when I give a suggestion they're like "we've been here before, you haven't so be quiet" |
| 09:17.20 | msoul | lol |
| 09:17.28 | msoul | here is a thought "gquit" |
| 09:17.30 | olafski | their tactic worked, but I actually bothered to read about the boss and had a much better one imo :( |
| 09:17.38 | olafski | well I just joined this guild and my gf really wants to raid :< |
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| 09:18.08 | msoul | level up a char wit hher is much fun |
| 09:18.27 | olafski | I'm not sure she likes leveling ;) |
| 09:18.38 | msoul | :( |
| 09:18.40 | olafski | and I don't have many options, my lowest character is lvl 60 so she'd have to play catch up for a while |
| 09:18.51 | msoul | i wish i have another char |
| 09:18.56 | olafski | not gonna delete a character for it either ,) |
| 09:19.01 | msoul | i do but i don't like what i started |
| 09:19.11 | msoul | will start either a rogue or a druid now |
| 09:19.18 | krka_ | boosting is the shit! |
| 09:19.22 | Grum | olafski: what boss were you on? :D |
| 09:19.24 | msoul | nah just questing |
| 09:19.33 | ccox | GF - just level on a new server (unless you really have 50 toons already) |
| 09:19.41 | msoul | 2p of hairlooms should get you thetre quick |
| 09:19.42 | olafski | grum: twin valkyrs |
| 09:19.56 | msoul | excellent fibht |
| 09:19.58 | Grum | olafski: that is a boss where any tactic works tbh |
| 09:20.00 | msoul | i like that fight |
| 09:20.03 | olafski | sure |
| 09:20.06 | olafski | but it could be easier tbh :( |
| 09:20.09 | msoul | olafski: twins and freya in ulduar |
| 09:20.19 | Grum | easier but relearning might not be easier :) |
| 09:20.22 | olafski | grum: we were using a white group on the left and a black group on the right |
| 09:20.33 | olafski | yeah especially for a group of noobs ;) |
| 09:20.35 | msoul | racist! |
| 09:20.40 | olafski | last night they wanted to try grand crusader |
| 09:20.47 | Grum | wait, are you talking about heroic or normal? |
| 09:20.55 | olafski | I logged in later and asked how it went, they were like "hard mode wasn't kidding" :P |
| 09:20.59 | Grum | because if you move for orbs in normal you are doing something wrong :P |
| 09:20.59 | olafski | normal 10man :) |
| 09:21.12 | Grum | ah we just heal through that |
| 09:21.14 | olafski | I really shouldn't be discussing raids with you |
| 09:21.28 | Grum | standstill and pointblank nuke |
| 09:21.41 | Grum | but hmm what we do on heroic 10m |
| 09:21.47 | Grum | have the 2 groups (as you said) |
| 09:21.53 | olafski | you'll just annoy me anyway |
| 09:21.56 | Grum | and 1 catcher of opposite color to filter some of the orbs |
| 09:22.00 | olafski | and you're a pirate so you don't deserve my attention ;) |
| 09:22.07 | olafski | but yeah that's what I suggested |
| 09:22.17 | olafski | and they were like "omg are u stupid, we're not going to have 2 useless dps just to catch orbs" |
| 09:22.23 | msoul | olafski: what class do youy play anytway |
| 09:22.27 | Grum | hmm they dont have to catch every orb |
| 09:22.29 | Grum | just 'some of them' |
| 09:22.32 | olafski | a DK as main msoul |
| 09:22.39 | Grum | so yeah you had a nice point :) |
| 09:22.40 | msoul | hehe nice |
| 09:22.44 | olafski | grum: so I said "so switch two healers around" |
| 09:22.46 | msoul | olafski: i play as a dk too |
| 09:22.49 | Grum | but its also annoying as hell to do this if you do not have alot of ranged |
| 09:22.50 | olafski | which is when they told me to shut up :P |
| 09:22.56 | msoul | bleh |
| 09:23.07 | Grum | hmm its harder for healers than for dps to do that :) |
| 09:23.09 | msoul | unholy dk = best aoe class in game |
| 09:23.20 | msoul | dk even |
| 09:23.28 | msoul | not to mention single target |
| 09:23.37 | olafski | I wouldn't know.. haven't been unholy since I hit lvl 80 |
| 09:23.43 | msoul | i even want to play as a dw frost dps for icy talons |
| 09:24.00 | olafski | I did that for a while, it's nice |
| 09:24.01 | msoul | try it, you will love it :) |
| 09:24.08 | olafski | nah I like blood :P |
| 09:24.18 | msoul | blood will shine only in cleave fights |
| 09:24.37 | Grum | there arent many cleave fights though |
| 09:24.41 | msoul | aye |
| 09:24.42 | olafski | I don't really care either way.. I'll be among the top 3 in damage usually so that's fine |
| 09:24.48 | Grum | well anub 25m normal or 10m hard ..2 adds |
| 09:24.50 | msoul | which is why i said "only" ;) |
| 09:24.51 | olafski | theorycrafting and other minmaxing is too boring to me |
| 09:25.00 | Grum | but 25 hard makes unholy better by miles :) |
| 09:25.05 | msoul | indeed |
| 09:25.16 | msoul | anyway gotta run to class "French" :( |
| 09:25.20 | olafski | hf |
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| 12:07.27 | zenzio | 'You know, when I'm listening to music, I often do think, "The only way this could be better is if it had DRM and reported my listening habits back to record labels, and if I was getting spammed right now. If only someone would develop the technology!"' |
| 12:07.48 | haste | like the new MP3 format? |
| 12:07.59 | zenzio | yeah, it's a comment about that from Slashdot |
| 12:08.08 | wereHamster | which new mp3 format? |
| 12:08.17 | haste | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/25/1758218/ |
| 12:08.18 | zenzio | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/01/25/1758218/Bach-Launches-Updated-MP3-Format?art_pos=16 |
| 12:08.21 | zenzio | doh |
| 12:09.11 | Fisker | btw haste |
| 12:09.16 | Fisker | i'm luckier than legally allowed |
| 12:09.23 | haste | good for you |
| 12:09.27 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskerdin&gn=HottieHamsters |
| 12:09.30 | Fisker | do it haste |
| 12:09.40 | Dagmar | That right there is the problem with labels. |
| 12:10.09 | Dagmar | zenzio: I think I just decided to never, ever buy an mp3 |
| 12:11.13 | Adys | [Party] [Hoolygan-Bloodscalp]: als big sh it is i kan olso heal |
| 12:11.16 | Adys | what language s this? |
| 12:11.30 | zenzio | looks like Finnish |
| 12:11.37 | Dagmar | Kickmetonian |
| 12:11.48 | Dagmar | Either that or Ancient Idjit |
| 12:11.53 | Dagmar | It's hard to tell them apart |
| 12:11.57 | zenzio | hehe |
| 12:12.24 | Adys | [Guild] [Loona]: chain pull |
| 12:12.24 | Adys | Darothoropher has died. |
| 12:12.51 | Dagmar | Strangely, that's the same server one of my guildies saw a ~950 dps hunter from |
| 12:13.14 | nevcairiel | was he level 60? |
| 12:13.35 | cbreak | 950 dps at 60!? |
| 12:13.53 | nevcairiel | right, thats probably still too high |
| 12:13.57 | cbreak | I did like 1.5k dps at 70, and that was acceptable |
| 12:14.36 | Dagmar | No, it was a random heroic |
| 12:14.40 | Dagmar | I have no explanation whatsoever |
| 12:14.50 | nevcairiel | did he melee? |
| 12:14.53 | Dagmar | I was like "Remind him he needs to make his pet attack" |
| 12:15.05 | Dagmar | ...to which my guildmate said "His pet is more than half that" |
| 12:15.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:15.14 | Dagmar | I honestly can't figure out how he idd it |
| 12:15.28 | nevcairiel | even autoshot would be higher, tbh |
| 12:15.35 | Wobin | Dagmar, maybe using level 1 ammo? |
| 12:15.44 | Dagmar | Thought that too, but I pulled his armory |
| 12:16.23 | zenzio | did he use abilities? |
| 12:16.33 | Dagmar | I was told he was |
| 12:17.16 | Dagmar | I mean, he had no enchants on anything, and the usual just-short-of-epic gems in the slots, but the right ones at least, one strength ring (not sure what was with that) but the rest was agi/atk |
| 12:17.26 | Dagmar | I do believe he just genuinely sucked |
| 12:17.52 | nevcairiel | you really cant suck that much, dont hunters do like at least 50-60% of their dps with autoshot alone? |
| 12:18.53 | haste | never say never in the world of... World of Warcraft |
| 12:19.13 | nevcairiel | i didnt use never! |
| 12:20.46 | Dagmar | This is what has me baffled |
| 12:21.11 | Dagmar | Putting all 71 points into BM was another "oddity" |
| 12:21.19 | Dagmar | I knew it would make damage output suffer, but that much? |
| 12:21.41 | nevcairiel | shouldnt his pet alone pull 1k dps on full BM? |
| 12:21.42 | Wobin | armory link? |
| 12:21.59 | Dagmar | No no no no. Not a chance |
| 12:22.23 | Dagmar | Even with the T9 bonuses my wolf does about 1.3-1.4k solo |
| 12:22.38 | Dagmar | ...and I'm as geared as I think I can get without doing raids |
| 12:23.15 | Dagmar | Lemme see if I saved the rawr data |
| 12:23.32 | Wobin | eh, the only answer to questions like this is a Recount report |
| 12:23.46 | Dagmar | BLeh I didn't save the xml |
| 12:24.40 | Dagmar | The only thing I can figure is that perhaps the guy had *just* gotten his bow |
| 12:25.56 | nevcairiel | and used guns the last 80 levels? |
| 12:26.04 | Dagmar | It's possible |
| 12:26.13 | Dagmar | I don't have a clue what my bow skill is |
| 12:26.57 | Dagmar | Alliance dwarves and guns are like crazy glue and fingers |
| 12:27.15 | nevcairiel | are there other dwarves? |
| 12:27.40 | krka_ | dark iron dwarves? |
| 12:27.42 | krka_ | frostborn? |
| 12:29.34 | nevcairiel | but they are also glued to their guns and/or axes |
| 12:30.07 | Dagmar | How many successful dwarves do you see with a bow, outside of an insane asylum |
| 12:32.58 | Dagmar | I think I'd prefer to not inflict myself and my newly rediscovered level 45-ish bowmanship onto random strangers in a heroic tho |
| 12:34.00 | Wobin | I spent half an hour or so shooting the bombs from Dr Booim |
| 12:34.24 | nevcairiel | i guess for a hunter the bombs are an awesome training place |
| 12:34.34 | Dagmar | You don't really need it. |
| 12:34.36 | Wobin | it used to be better |
| 12:34.41 | Wobin | when Dr Boom gave skillups |
| 12:34.44 | Wobin | but he doesn't anymore =( |
| 12:34.47 | Dagmar | As sad as this sounds, at 80, I don't really have to shoot "normal" level 80 mobs anymore. |
| 12:34.57 | Dagmar | I leveled my raptor while meleeing |
| 12:35.15 | Dagmar | Even a hunter can kill 80 caster mobs in 3-4 hits |
| 12:35.47 | zenzio | that's 20+ enemies per hit o_O |
| 12:35.55 | Dagmar | It just takes lots of purples |
| 12:36.18 | nevcairiel | noone thinks you're funny zenzio :P |
| 12:36.31 | Dagmar | Putting caps on volley was mean |
| 12:36.56 | nevcairiel | all aoe has caps, just fair |
| 12:36.58 | zenzio | nevcairiel: I don't care, I've never been popular in the first place; my jokes are for myself :) |
| 12:37.27 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Well, it takes on a slightly different meaning when you've just pulled the entire armory wing of scarlet monastery |
| 12:37.50 | mikma_ | haste: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/haiti.jpg |
| 12:38.19 | Dagmar | So wrong |
| 12:38.28 | Dagmar | So very, very wrong |
| 12:38.37 | haste | I don't get it :V |
| 12:38.48 | Dagmar | You see the text, right? |
| 12:38.54 | haste | unless it's just meant to be LAWL earthquakes |
| 12:38.55 | nevcairiel | haste probably has a browser that doesnt work like that |
| 12:39.02 | nevcairiel | or he does |
| 12:39.05 | _rane | or a mac :OOOOOO |
| 12:39.14 | haste | I actually use firefox! |
| 12:39.25 | Dagmar | He finally gets it |
| 12:39.27 | haste | because it's the only browser with sane vertical tabs |
| 12:39.33 | nevcairiel | no midori anymore? .d |
| 12:39.51 | haste | nah, I was tricked into using vertical tabs :V |
| 12:39.58 | nevcairiel | vertical tabs? |
| 12:40.09 | Dagmar | Yes tell us more of this vertical tabs |
| 12:40.29 | haste | http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_treestyletab.html.en |
| 12:40.54 | nevcairiel | hm interesting |
| 12:41.23 | Dagmar | I thought he meant 90 degrees rotated |
| 12:41.26 | Dagmar | Shucks |
| 12:45.01 | olafski | < Adys> [Party] [Hoolygan-Bloodscalp]: als big sh it is i kan olso heal <-- looks like dutch |
| 12:45.29 | olafski | e.g. a dutch person who's really bad at english and decided to replace half the words with their dutch equivalent |
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| 12:46.03 | nevcairiel | also big shit is i can also heal? |
| 12:46.13 | nevcairiel | i dunno what it means, but thats what i read |
| 12:46.17 | Dagmar | ..or a public school kid. |
| 12:46.19 | olafski | "if big is shit, I can also heal" |
| 12:46.43 | olafski | swapping shit and is makes it look like dutch grammar |
| 12:46.56 | olafski | olso is phonetic dutch for "also" |
| 12:47.16 | Dagmar | I could still be a barely-literate teenager |
| 12:47.25 | olafski | and while he might have meant "I can heal also" or "I can heal too", swapping those words once again makes it dutch grammar |
| 12:47.34 | Dagmar | This is the problem with twelve million players. |
| 12:47.42 | Dagmar | Some of them are going to be really, _really_ stupid. |
| 12:47.51 | nevcairiel | its a european realm, makes more sense to be some random eu player that doesnt speak english anyway |
| 12:48.04 | olafski | yer.. so dutch ;) |
| 12:48.13 | olafski | dutch grammar looks a lot like swedish, but these words don't look swedish |
| 12:48.21 | olafski | and swedish people are quite good at english generally |
| 12:48.47 | krka_ | we are the shizniz |
| 12:50.07 | olafski | then again, I thought dutch people usually get english in .. preschool(?) |
| 12:50.16 | olafski | think I got my first english lesson when I was 8 or something |
| 12:50.19 | nevcairiel | doesnt mean they manage |
| 12:50.23 | olafski | true enough :) |
| 12:51.24 | olafski | it's probably just because I understand them, but dutch people really seem to be the scum of the server |
| 12:51.37 | olafski | if I see people yelling profanity in another language than english, it's always dutch :< |
| 12:51.52 | nevcairiel | maybe you're on one of those dutch realms |
| 12:52.10 | haste | http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/101/101043/10104352/jpg/active/960x.jpg so awesome! |
| 12:52.11 | olafski | nah don't think that's it |
| 12:52.16 | olafski | is there a "list" of those somewhere nevcairiel? |
| 12:52.25 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 12:52.29 | nevcairiel | i'm not dutch |
| 12:52.37 | nevcairiel | but every language has some kind of realm where they all gather |
| 12:52.45 | krka_ | wtf is that haste |
| 12:52.48 | olafski | i was though about a dutch realm server there are now server like germany france and espanol and russian but not a dutch (netherlands)realm server |
| 12:52.52 | olafski | all people that though its a great idea type agree and your comment(motivation) and let see maybe it works and got we a dutch realm server sorry for my bad english |
| 12:53.01 | olafski | haha.. this is why dutch people could use their own realm.. so the rest of the world will be rid of them |
| 12:53.16 | nevcairiel | there are no official dutch realms, because tehy are just not enough people |
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| 12:53.32 | nevcairiel | but usually some english realms just have more dutch people then others |
| 12:53.33 | olafski | well, I'd say they should be able to fill at least one realm |
| 12:53.36 | haste | krka_: it's a fish |
| 12:53.41 | olafski | I'm quite content staying on an english server though |
| 12:53.53 | olafski | really wouldn't mind if all the dutch kids buggered off ;) |
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| 13:08.05 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:08.06 | Wobin | CoS |
| 13:08.09 | Wobin | 3 minutes to spare |
| 13:09.30 | Wobin | had to drag in the infinite corrupter to Mal'ganis and finish them both off |
| 13:10.39 | nevcairiel | you know, malganis is not part of the time quest |
| 13:10.55 | olafski | indeed :P |
| 13:11.04 | Wobin | nah, 3 min to server shutdown |
| 13:11.09 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 13:11.29 | olafski | ah :P |
| 13:11.38 | Wobin | we were complaining because we got the slowest running instance when we only had 15min to run it in =P |
| 13:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | Are you sure your loot won't be eaten by the reset? |
| 13:12.12 | Wobin | nah, we ported out before the shutdown occurred |
| 13:12.18 | Wobin | and it wasn't really about loot, just badges |
| 13:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that should be fine then. |
| 13:13.46 | Lopeppeppy | But I've seen the reset eat all sorts of loot and achievements and so forth, I never mess with 'em. |
| 13:14.08 | Arrowmaster | so i found a 2003 Audi TT coupe with a 6 speed manual transmission and 89k miles on it for $14k |
| 13:14.56 | zenzio | cheap? |
| 13:15.07 | Arrowmaster | i think thats cheap |
| 13:15.07 | olafski | hey arrowmaster you inspired me to finish Rez ;) |
| 13:15.29 | Arrowmaster | its right at the top of my price range or maybe over it but i think i can push it |
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| 13:17.20 | Arrowmaster | it sounds like a fucking sweet ass car from the description |
| 13:17.32 | Arrowmaster | leather interior and heated seats too |
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| 13:19.03 | Adys | how does 0x1002026 become \xe2\x80\xa6? |
| 13:19.37 | zenzio | in what language? |
| 13:19.44 | Adys | xkb-c |
| 13:22.18 | theorbtwo | Adys: That's U+2026, utf8 encoded. |
| 13:22.54 | Lopeppeppy | It's really weird to me that I've been up for hours, but no one is at work yet... |
| 13:23.16 | Arrowmaster | are you at work? |
| 13:23.23 | Adys | theorbtwo: ah thanks |
| 13:24.17 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: lies, I'm at work |
| 13:25.05 | Lopeppeppy | Good, fix the password script on my server, would ya zenzio? |
| 13:25.28 | zenzio | I deemed that unnecessary, they're all just "steve" now |
| 13:25.30 | Lopeppeppy | Arrowmaster, I'm not. I believe I'm allergic to the antibiotic I took yesterday, waiting for the doctor to get to work so I can go bug him about it. |
| 13:25.40 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, steve. I'll tell them about that. |
| 13:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | Like I had to tell them about their new static IP and fix my news script for it yesterday. All these surprises. |
| 13:26.14 | Lopeppeppy | You're a very surprising BOFH! |
| 13:26.25 | Lopeppeppy | commits rampant oxymoron. |
| 13:27.41 | Fisker | e/me tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:27.43 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:27.44 | Fisker | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:30.59 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, thanks. Mind the hives. |
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| 13:56.42 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, come and kill me. |
| 13:56.54 | alestane | Softly? |
| 13:57.03 | Fisker | watch out Lopeppeppy |
| 13:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | No, a baseball bat is okay. |
| 13:57.33 | Fisker | or i'll hack you through port 443 by editing the telnet protocol so i can overclock your FSB to 10000MHz and burn your northbridge on your motherboard |
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| 13:58.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, sexy talk always makes me feel better, Fisker. |
| 13:58.33 | Arrowmaster | 443 is https not telnet |
| 13:58.37 | alestane | Wouldn't the problem be better addressed by killing *someone else*? |
| 13:59.00 | Lopeppeppy | no. I have this bad reaction to my antibiotics, you see, and it would all be over if you kill me. |
| 13:59.22 | alestane | Ah, slightly different problem. |
| 13:59.34 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12304391307&sid=1#16 <- Arrowmaster |
| 13:59.35 | alestane | I thought maybe the server monkeys were refuting you again. |
| 13:59.44 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12304391307&sid=1#18 <- Actually |
| 14:00.46 | Lopeppeppy | No, the server monkeys had assigned a static IP to my news-serving server and were just shocked!!!! that this caused the script to become confused. |
| 14:01.13 | Lopeppeppy | Shocked, I tell you. They rebooted it and cleared some meta-caches around campus and flushed some DNSes and suddenly it worked. |
| 14:01.45 | alestane | So, the script understood this reasonably well once it was getting consistent information. |
| 14:01.49 | Lopeppeppy | What the hell possessed them to do this a) outside the normal maintenance window of Thursday A.M. and b) without notifying the people who USE the server boggles me. |
| 14:01.57 | Fisker | maybe i'll flush your cache |
| 14:02.14 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yeah, the script ran fine once the server itself wasn't confused about its identity anymore, and the rest of the college knew what it was. |
| 14:03.01 | Arrowmaster | thats why you never just change an ip address |
| 14:03.30 | Arrowmaster | you add another so the system has both the old and the new and you remove the old one after a while so dns can have time to update |
| 14:03.44 | Lopeppeppy | That's what **I** said, Arrowmaster. :) Somehow, they thought they could just... do it and leave it alone, walk away and let it sort itself out? I bounced my head off the desk a lot. |
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| 14:47.31 | Fisker | hacked Lopeppeppy |
| 14:55.26 | Lopeppeppy | Is that good or bad? |
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| 15:41.17 | Kraps | o hai ther |
| 15:43.49 | Lopeppeppy | oh hai |
| 15:44.40 | Ancu | has anyone tried DurabilityStatus from Cosmos? |
| 15:45.36 | Kraps | i have it |
| 15:45.48 | Ancu | does it work well? |
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| 15:49.04 | Kraps | yes, the only problem with it is that it seems to not be movable |
| 15:49.28 | Ancu | oh? where is it located? |
| 15:50.20 | Kraps | the bottom left of the minimap, right around where debuff icons are |
| 15:50.47 | Ancu | that could be problematic |
| 15:51.56 | Kraps | its not a big issue for me, just not ideal |
| 15:53.00 | Ackis | apparently MS screwed up and you could download all the ME2 special codes for free for about 8 hours :| |
| 15:53.08 | Ancu | hmmm, I'm just wondering if it can be made movable. just reading over the notes. If not, I may suggest making it so |
| 15:53.46 | Ancu | Both the durability percentage window and the merchant repair window can be moved by holding down <shift> and dragging with the mouse. |
| 15:54.18 | Kraps | hmm |
| 15:54.58 | Ancu | ackis, lol, wish I had known about it |
| 15:55.50 | Kraps | it was only on the xbox |
| 15:56.25 | Ancu | :( I dont have an xBox... |
| 15:57.16 | Kraps | me neither |
| 15:57.45 | Kraps | paragon or renegade? /discuss |
| 15:59.20 | krka_ | paragon was a cool character, and renegades magic was not really hobbs best work, so i'd say paragon wins |
| 16:00.28 | Ackis | eb games fucked me over on my pre-order |
| 16:01.02 | Ancu | I = has no idea what paragon or renegade are....negates self from discussion.... |
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| 16:02.06 | Arrowmaster | i was going to pick mine up at midnight |
| 16:02.14 | Arrowmaster | but then i didnt have a car anymore |
| 16:02.50 | Ackis | ~comfort Arrowmaster |
| 16:02.51 | purl | There, there, Arrowmaster. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:04.19 | Ackis | Kraps: you have ME2 on the PC? |
| 16:04.49 | Kraps | wow, krka_ just destroyed the whole thing :( |
| 16:05.02 | Kraps | Ackis: i'm getting it, yeah |
| 16:05.07 | Ackis | ah not yet then |
| 16:05.20 | Ackis | I wanted to see what people who had the game's page http://social.bioware.com/user_entitlements.php looked like |
| 16:05.33 | Ackis | I have a download link for some armor for ME2, might be shareable |
| 16:05.54 | Kraps | wait is it released already? |
| 16:06.07 | Kraps | this morning? |
| 16:06.08 | Ackis | ME2 came out today |
| 16:06.29 | Kraps | i pre-ordered on steam but i'm at work |
| 16:06.33 | Ancu | It is tuesday, release day, and patch day, and wow downtime day |
| 16:06.52 | Ancu | release is the only good that that ever happens on tuesdays |
| 16:07.05 | Ackis | Kraps: ahh steam isn't out yet iirc |
| 16:08.09 | Kraps | tonight i think |
| 16:08.24 | olafski | ackis: I got 2 achievements yesterday! |
| 16:08.28 | olafski | ackis: and I ordered marvel ultimate alliance 2 ;) |
| 16:08.43 | Ackis | olafski: did you hear that they removed the MUA2 DLC? |
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| 16:09.00 | olafski | I have no idea |
| 16:09.01 | Ancu | I hate yoyo games |
| 16:09.09 | olafski | just saw it cut in price by half so I ordered :P |
| 16:09.21 | olafski | don't you mean the ME2 DLC btw? |
| 16:09.33 | olafski | hm guess not |
| 16:09.35 | Ancu | They should die a painful death |
| 16:09.52 | olafski | who is yoyo games >_< |
| 16:11.16 | Ancu | YoYo games bought Game Maker from Mark Overmars. He was awsome. Always a nice usable free version, and a nice unpolluted site. YoYo games destroyed it in my opinion |
| 16:11.20 | olafski | hm. mark overmars is a computer scientist? |
| 16:11.24 | olafski | I thought he was a soccer player |
| 16:11.54 | olafski | ah, that's marc overmars :P |
| 16:12.50 | Ancu | The name is mark overmars. www.gamemaker.nl |
| 16:13.50 | Arrowmaster | if you want to make games then just learn to program |
| 16:14.58 | Kraps | [11:13]<Arrowmaster>l2p nub |
| 16:15.07 | Kraps | :p |
| 16:15.09 | Ancu | thats not it. I don't want to anymore. I'm just sad to see a good indie program get destroyed by corporate |
| 16:15.30 | olafski | welcome to the grown up world ;) |
| 16:15.47 | olafski | ackis: I don't think I'll play MUA2 that much anyway.. MUA was great but the sequel looks "not as good" |
| 16:18.42 | alestane | Ancu: I actually teach a course using Game Maker right now...the program seems very usable, the vast majority of the features are there for free, and the full version is extremely affordable. I've seen no reason yet to be unhappy. |
| 16:19.36 | olafski | 25 bucks doesn't seem bad |
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| 16:20.14 | Ancu | You teach a coarse 0_0 game maker still does that? I assumed that would have gone by the way side....I just liked it better before YoYo games got involved. |
| 16:20.57 | Ancu | Then again, I haven't tried the latest version....But I still hate the site |
| 16:21.02 | alestane | We use it for prototyping in my course on "Managing Game Development". It's a functional, fairly clean program. |
| 16:21.28 | alestane | And the main purpose of the site seems to be to provide hosting for the community to share games and tutorials. |
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| 16:22.08 | Ancu | but its green -_- game maker is red or blue.....not green |
| 16:22.27 | olafski | jebus |
| 16:22.34 | olafski | you're just looking for things to hate now |
| 16:22.52 | Ancu | I supose thats what really bothers me, they went and screwed with the schemes. |
| 16:23.05 | Ancu | even the icons changed |
| 16:23.19 | Ancu | I liked the old icons |
| 16:24.06 | Ancu | ...I suppose I will give it another try... |
| 16:24.15 | Kraps | anamolus does less rifts??? OMG CASUALS |
| 16:24.40 | olafski | hehe |
| 16:24.43 | olafski | makes it a bit faster |
| 16:24.49 | Arrowmaster | seems gamestop fucked up my preorder too |
| 16:24.59 | Arrowmaster | and over charged the person i had pick it up |
| 16:25.17 | alestane | Kraps: The basic argument is that more rifts doesn't make it harder, just more tedious. |
| 16:25.31 | olafski | same with elder nadrox(sp?) |
| 16:25.31 | batbot | olafski, nothing found. |
| 16:25.38 | olafski | and jedoga |
| 16:26.20 | Arrowmaster | oh good news, gamestop preorder bonus is an extra card so my plan to return the gamestop copy will succeed |
| 16:26.45 | Kraps | alestane: to paraphrase GC: we could make him do 20 rifts, and the hardest part would be trying to stay awake |
| 16:28.50 | Ancu | Im gona finish the dishes while GM downloads |
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| 16:30.07 | DWSR | zomg ME2 in 2 hours! |
| 16:32.32 | Kraps | hey stop that :( |
| 16:32.53 | Kraps | i'm at work here |
| 16:34.12 | nicoli_d | i need to try the mass effect games, hear good things |
| 16:35.13 | Kraps | speaking of work, theres this company that puts random inspirational lines on their invoices "Better to bend than to break!" |
| 16:36.07 | Kraps | "If the world didnt suck we would fall of it!" |
| 16:36.13 | Kraps | or something |
| 16:38.28 | nicoli_d | we should do that at curse |
| 16:38.35 | nicoli_d | just inject inspirational messages in yer addons |
| 16:40.42 | Fisker | nichdu |
| 16:40.43 | Fisker | nicoli_d |
| 16:41.25 | olafski | arrowmaster: can I somehow see how long I've played rez? |
| 16:41.36 | cogwheel | wonders whatever happened to rolling restart tuesdays |
| 16:42.14 | nicoli_d | you mean like the crazy shooter game rez? |
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| 16:43.20 | DWSR | GAH |
| 16:43.22 | DWSR | needs a new router. |
| 16:43.34 | olafski | nicoli_s: yes |
| 16:43.41 | DWSR | someone got a pasteback for me? |
| 16:43.56 | nicoli_s | i love that game |
| 16:44.03 | olafski | you missed like 10 lines dwsr ,) |
| 16:44.08 | DWSR | oh *shrug* |
| 16:44.08 | nicoli_s | i had it on the dreamcast, need to get a new 360 so i can try it hi res |
| 16:44.37 | Arrowmaster | olafski: i dont know |
| 16:44.41 | olafski | http://pastie.org/795223 @ dwsr |
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| 16:44.55 | olafski | arrowmaster: I guess I can see when I hit 6 hours, because then the 3rd form becomes available in beyond mode ;) |
| 16:44.55 | Arrowmaster | if you find it tell me, mines probably some number thats way too high |
| 16:45.15 | olafski | of course if you've unlocked that already it won't help you |
| 16:45.42 | olafski | I've written my own little app to track my gameplay |
| 16:45.43 | DWSR | anyone got a recommendation for a decent bullet hell gam? |
| 16:45.44 | DWSR | game* |
| 16:45.51 | DWSR | olafski: Wakoopa, kthx.\ |
| 16:46.02 | olafski | but I played before I wrote that so it won't count all of my play |
| 16:46.13 | olafski | bullet hell is a genre? like ikaruga? |
| 16:46.14 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
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| 16:46.36 | Arrowmaster | olafski: ive probably played it between 20-30 hours |
| 16:46.59 | DWSR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_hell#Bullet_hell |
| 16:47.03 | olafski | arrowmaster: jebus |
| 16:47.41 | Arrowmaster | ive one of my wireless controllers is broken and i got a replacement so now ive got even more controllers to use for it |
| 16:47.44 | olafski | dwsr: well, ikaruga then :) that's all I know |
| 16:48.14 | Arrowmaster | Rez is not a bullet hell game |
| 16:48.37 | olafski | no, I said ikaruga :P |
| 16:49.07 | DWSR | Yeah, I'm looking for something like Castle Shikigami or something similar. |
| 16:49.28 | DWSR | redundant statement is redundant. |
| 16:49.40 | olafski | seeing as ikaruga is mentioned in that article I assume dwsr has considered that though |
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| 16:50.16 | DWSR | ME2 in an hour. |
| 16:50.22 | DWSR | SIGH I HAVE IT ALL ON MY HARDDRIVE ALREADY |
| 16:50.24 | DWSR | LEMME PLAY IT STEAM |
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| 16:50.40 | olafski | :D |
| 16:50.56 | DWSR | LOL |
| 16:51.02 | Arrowmaster | im loading up DA:O which i still havent played so i can use these codes |
| 16:51.15 | DWSR | I check the Steam Store page on this laptop and it says 6 hours. |
| 16:51.20 | DWSR | I check it on my desktop and it says 2 hours. |
| 16:51.23 | DWSR | cache failure much? |
| 16:51.36 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if ME2 is going to be as meh as the last one |
| 16:52.05 | Arrowmaster | i want to know what decissions in the first one effect the second one so i can play the first one again before i play the second |
| 16:52.25 | DWSR | they don't, really. |
| 16:52.27 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 16:52.47 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: iirc, your character will have all of the same powers that you finished the last game with. |
| 16:53.08 | Arrowmaster | overpowered much? |
| 16:53.10 | DWSR | (i.e. shotguns for the biotic class). |
| 16:53.16 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: I'm sure that they'll find some way to make it far. |
| 16:53.20 | DWSR | fair* |
| 16:53.21 | Fisker | naw |
| 16:53.37 | DWSR | the soldier class was so overpowered in the last game anwyay. |
| 16:53.39 | DWSR | anyway* |
| 16:54.06 | DWSR | Made the game such a joke, finished the game in less time with more % completion with my soldier shepard, just becaues you can walk in, hold down M1 and win. |
| 16:54.08 | Fisker | If you import a ME1 character you basically just get the "completed the game rewards", the story imported and choice of an extra power (like when you completed ME1) |
| 16:54.22 | Fisker | and if you had a lot of money you start off with 100.000 extra credits i believe |
| 16:54.31 | DWSR | oh, whatever. |
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| 16:54.35 | DWSR | I'm getting the Terminus Armor anyway. |
| 16:54.42 | Ancu | ;_; I hate dialup |
| 16:54.45 | Arrowmaster | im getting them all |
| 16:54.47 | DWSR | So I don't care that much, since I don't tihnk I EVER bought a weapon in that game. |
| 16:54.49 | cogwheel | station! |
| 16:55.03 | DWSR | Meh, I *have* ME1, if I bother to go and play through it to get a save file. |
| 16:55.04 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 16:55.17 | DWSR | Ok |
| 16:55.17 | Fisker | it's not worth it |
| 16:55.24 | DWSR | Steam, you have officially pissed me off. |
| 16:55.24 | Fisker | it's batshit retarded |
| 16:55.31 | Fisker | just get a save game online |
| 16:55.31 | DWSR | The release date is TODAY. |
| 16:55.35 | Fisker | but it's seriously weak |
| 16:55.37 | DWSR | Not TODAY at 2PM |
| 16:55.48 | DWSR | SO LEMME PLAY MY GAME DICKWADS. |
| 16:55.59 | Kraps | the importing a save game part doesnt imrpess me |
| 16:56.01 | Fisker | where is it 2PM? |
| 16:56.07 | Fisker | Kraps it shouldn't |
| 16:56.10 | Fisker | i thought it was nice |
| 16:56.11 | DWSR | 1PM* |
| 16:56.15 | Fisker | if they actually did something with it |
| 16:56.19 | Fisker | but they didn't |
| 16:56.29 | DWSR | Processor: 2.6+ GHz Cure 2 Duo Intel or equivalent AMD CPU <-- Well, I'm fucked. |
| 16:56.38 | Kraps | it puts too much pressure to get it right in the first game |
| 16:56.38 | Fisker | yeah you don't has cure 2 duo |
| 16:56.39 | DWSR | gogo 1.8GHz Dual Core! |
| 16:57.06 | Kraps | and i dont feel like replaying me1 |
| 16:57.13 | Fisker | don't be worried about that |
| 16:58.00 | Fisker | ME1 saves ~= a few minutes of extra dialogue, + a few character perks |
| 16:58.03 | Fisker | big fucking woop |
| 16:58.26 | Kraps | what about romantic interests? |
| 16:58.55 | DWSR | All your squadmates from the first game are dead or against you now, iirc. |
| 16:59.05 | Kraps | aw damn |
| 16:59.06 | DWSR | You get a completely new set. |
| 16:59.19 | DWSR | Besides, I shagged the shit out of Liara every time, male or female. |
| 16:59.20 | Kraps | i know |
| 16:59.22 | Fisker | Actually one did say that you're still in a relationship kinda |
| 16:59.25 | Fisker | but not really |
| 16:59.39 | DWSR | Definitely the best scene. |
| 16:59.49 | Fisker | But he says that picking up a new relationship will fuck up shit with your previous romance |
| 16:59.58 | Kraps | DWSR: shes hot but i'd rather have ashley |
| 17:00.22 | Fisker | But really it's a joke |
| 17:00.37 | Fisker | Everything has the same outcome, wording is just slightly different |
| 17:00.49 | DWSR | Kraps: Meh, just call me Cpt. Kirk. ;) |
| 17:00.50 | Fisker | For example if you save the citadel council you can become a spectre again |
| 17:00.54 | Fisker | BUT ITS TOP SEKRIT LOL |
| 17:01.13 | DWSR | Spectre was such a joke. |
| 17:01.14 | Kraps | lol DWSR |
| 17:01.14 | Lopeppeppy | steals the seeekrit |
| 17:01.19 | DWSR | it was like LOL advance the plotline much? |
| 17:01.54 | DWSR | There was no point to becoming a spectre. |
| 17:01.59 | Kraps | it did show the mutual douchbaggery of the humans and aliens |
| 17:02.04 | DWSR | lol |
| 17:02.31 | DWSR | As long as I get to use my respective genitalia on some members of that group, I don't care. |
| 17:02.38 | Fisker | well sure |
| 17:02.52 | CptKirk | Typo fail. |
| 17:02.55 | CptKirk | OH GOD DAMNIT |
| 17:03.00 | CptKirk | SOMEONE REGGED THIS? |
| 17:03.06 | Fisker | But if they're going to have this feature it better have some actual changes |
| 17:03.21 | Fisker | saying you're spectre but lol it's a sekrit is just lazy |
| 17:03.29 | alestane | I have a sudden craving for wasabi mayonnaise. |
| 17:03.33 | CptKirk | O.o |
| 17:03.39 | CptKirk | I have a craving for green chicks. |
| 17:03.45 | Lunessa | brb, must restart. |
| 17:04.08 | Fisker | but consider this nicoli_s |
| 17:04.08 | CptKirk | I'm making a WoW toon and RPing him as being interested in trolls and orcs. But only green trolls and orcs. |
| 17:04.10 | Fisker | http://starcraft.incgamers.com/gallery/data/500/starcraft-2-beta-jace-hall-zoom.jpg |
| 17:04.26 | Kraps | CptKirk: WAT |
| 17:04.32 | CptKirk | The SC2 Trailer is badass. |
| 17:04.44 | Ancu | ~lart dialup and Tuesdays |
| 17:04.44 | purl | shoots dialup and Tuesdays in the head |
| 17:04.47 | CptKirk | Problem is that the SC2 trailer makes the game come off as more of an FPS than an RTS. |
| 17:04.54 | CptKirk | Is there a patch today? |
| 17:05.06 | Fisker | apparently not |
| 17:05.10 | CptKirk | fail Ancu |
| 17:05.12 | Ancu | no |
| 17:05.29 | Fisker | "Since Brann Bronzebeard exercised constantly, he will walk faster during the escort." |
| 17:05.30 | Ancu | But game maker is taking forever to download |
| 17:05.31 | Fisker | is fail btw |
| 17:06.13 | Ancu | and its tuesday, so I cant just play wow instend |
| 17:06.14 | Fisker | also how the hell do they make it look like an RTS then CptKirk? |
| 17:06.14 | CptKirk | Fisker: LOL |
| 17:06.14 | CptKirk | Fisker: I dunno. It still comes off as the trailer for an RTS. |
| 17:06.18 | CptKirk | Too much focus on a single unit or small group of units. |
| 17:06.22 | nicoli_s | fisker, whard you get that? |
| 17:06.29 | CptKirk | I mean, the WoW trailer.....looks like a fucking MMO trailer. |
| 17:06.31 | Fisker | inctrojans |
| 17:06.40 | Fisker | from the Jace Hall Season 3 trailer :o |
| 17:06.47 | nicoli_s | wtf is that? |
| 17:06.47 | CptKirk | It's like MOAR LEVELS. MOAR RACES. MOAR CLASS COMBINATIONS. MOAR FEATURES RAWRGLERAWRGLE. |
| 17:06.57 | Fisker | i think the WoW trailer looks like a piece of shit |
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| 17:07.20 | Fisker | and no it doesn't really make me say "wow mmo" |
| 17:07.24 | Kraps | OMG SO MUC HAET |
| 17:07.36 | Fisker | infact it follows the Warcraft 3 style in my opinion |
| 17:07.51 | CptKirk | Fisker: I'll agree on the dung appearance. |
| 17:08.00 | nicoli_s | fisker wtf is the Jace Hall Season 3 trailer? |
| 17:08.12 | Fisker | you don't know the jace hall show? |
| 17:08.13 | Fisker | failure |
| 17:08.16 | CptKirk | tbh, it needed to be rendered by something other than the fucking 6 year old game engine. |
| 17:08.31 | CptKirk | Which reminds me, are we getting a new graphics engine for wow in cata? Or more fail polygon counts? |
| 17:08.33 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jace_Hall_Show |
| 17:08.51 | Ancu | I thinknew engine |
| 17:08.59 | Ancu | Looking at the new watter |
| 17:09.14 | DWSR | tbh, dropping OpenGL support would go a long way. |
| 17:09.18 | Kraps | slightly upgraded graphics AGAIN |
| 17:09.23 | DWSR | Slightly. Ugh. |
| 17:09.24 | Kraps | is what i heard |
| 17:09.31 | DWSR | Which means more CPU bottleneck. |
| 17:09.33 | DWSR | GREAT. |
| 17:09.43 | DWSR | Next thing I do is buy a quad core proc. |
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| 17:10.21 | DWSR | just to play WoW |
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| 17:11.19 | Ancu | make it hyperthreaded |
| 17:11.19 | nevcairiel | I told you before, they will never ever replace the complete engine in a game thats 5 years old |
| 17:11.22 | Kraps | the navy and marines have badass ads |
| 17:11.59 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm, marines. |
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| 17:12.12 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 17:12.12 | Kraps | DWSR: i have quad core, dont see the big deal |
| 17:13.22 | Kraps | and dual gpus, and my performance is weak imo |
| 17:13.33 | Kraps | and sli |
| 17:13.33 | Fisker | tackles Shirik |
| 17:13.34 | DWSR | Kraps: I just hate the inconsistency of the performance. |
| 17:13.39 | Shirik | you cannot tackle me |
| 17:13.45 | DWSR | Kraps: Performance bottleneck for WoW is in the CPU, not the GPUs. |
| 17:14.09 | nevcairiel | thats not entirely true |
| 17:14.16 | DWSR | I run >200FPS in vanilla, 150FPS in outland, 60FPS in northrend. |
| 17:14.25 | DWSR | with the same settings. |
| 17:14.26 | krka_ | Kraps: what do you mean by destroyed it? |
| 17:14.35 | DWSR | We've reached the limit of the engine. We need a new one. |
| 17:14.41 | nevcairiel | Look at CPU Usage and GPU Usage in dalaran |
| 17:14.45 | nevcairiel | neither is maxxed out |
| 17:14.57 | nevcairiel | If i look at some wall, GPU is maxxed |
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| 17:15.16 | Kraps | krka_: you really thought i was talking about what you were talking about? |
| 17:15.16 | DWSR | nevcairiel: That's because Dalaran has an absolutely insane amount of textures. |
| 17:15.27 | nevcairiel | funny enough, if i run wow with -nosound, cpu usage increases |
| 17:15.35 | DWSR | O.o |
| 17:15.39 | DWSR | That is odd. |
| 17:15.57 | nevcairiel | how would that big amount of textures come into that? |
| 17:16.10 | nevcairiel | i certainly have enough ram, system and video, to cache the textures of dalaran |
| 17:16.16 | nevcairiel | and hdd isnt really doing much |
| 17:16.26 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Because WoW is a 32bit OS. |
| 17:16.28 | DWSR | err. |
| 17:16.28 | DWSR | wow. |
| 17:16.32 | DWSR | bin* |
| 17:16.36 | krka_ | Kraps: it was my best guess atleast |
| 17:16.36 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abRFNHqUiRI&feature=sdig&et=1264523422.86 |
| 17:16.54 | krka_ | and if i guessed wrong, how would it be destroyed? |
| 17:16.56 | DWSR | If you turn your farclip up, it's not uncommon to see WoW running at around 1.65GB. |
| 17:16.58 | nevcairiel | even then, 512mb of texture cache is certainly enough to keep it there, and if it was not, i would see hdd activity, wouldnt i? |
| 17:17.10 | DWSR | nevcairiel: No. |
| 17:17.17 | DWSR | RAM |
| 17:17.18 | DWSR | Just start swapping stuff in and out of RAM. |
| 17:17.23 | DWSR | Why do you need to touch the HDD? |
| 17:17.35 | Kraps | krka_: i thought you did that on purpose :) |
| 17:17.44 | nevcairiel | the ram is fast enough to do that |
| 17:17.52 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Right, but here's my point. |
| 17:18.10 | DWSR | As soon as we run into this memory limit for textures (which we will, soon), we're going to have problems. |
| 17:18.12 | nevcairiel | as long as it stays in ram, the system ram to gpu transfer is fast enough |
| 17:18.22 | krka_ | Kraps: i still don't get it. did i guess right or something? or did my bad guess keep others from guessing? |
| 17:18.33 | DWSR | nevcairiel: And we have problems now. I have around 100mb for a UI. |
| 17:18.39 | DWSR | And occasionally WoW runs out of memory. |
| 17:18.40 | ZorbaBeta | http://store.steampowered.com/app/3830/ haha what. best deal ever. |
| 17:18.42 | nevcairiel | thats your own fault, tbh :) |
| 17:18.47 | Kraps | krka_: the latter |
| 17:18.52 | krka_ | i see |
| 17:19.03 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Hardly. The default UI is maybe 1/3rd the space. |
| 17:19.05 | krka_ | well, i can't be blamed for other people being easily distracted |
| 17:19.05 | DWSR | But that's it. |
| 17:19.18 | krka_ | oh look over there, a three headed monkey! |
| 17:19.20 | Arrowmaster | so i cant login to biowares site because i cant create a display name since i already have that display name |
| 17:19.29 | Arrowmaster | time to find my friend that works at bioware |
| 17:19.41 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 17:19.51 | DWSR | ZOMG |
| 17:19.56 | DWSR | I WANT TO PLAY MY GODDAMN PREORDER. |
| 17:20.01 | Arrowmaster | hmm hes not on |
| 17:20.16 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: enough |
| 17:20.24 | DWSR | Here's what I don't understand. |
| 17:20.29 | DWSR | The game is released. |
| 17:20.32 | DWSR | why the fuck can't I play it? |
| 17:20.38 | Kraps | krka_: WHAT WHERE |
| 17:20.42 | nevcairiel | Because i told them to not give it to you |
| 17:20.49 | nevcairiel | you're upset so easily :) |
| 17:21.03 | DWSR | nevcairiel: No, it's rediculous. |
| 17:21.11 | DWSR | Why do I pre-order if I'm going to be getting the game later than everyone else? |
| 17:21.19 | nevcairiel | dunno, why do you? |
| 17:21.32 | Ackis | http://dailysquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/129084059224923777.jpg MUDKIPS I LOVE YOU |
| 17:21.40 | Fisker | i hate you Ackis |
| 17:21.54 | Fisker | you should ask yourself that DWSR |
| 17:22.02 | nevcairiel | that looks like the same kind of fish haste posted earlier |
| 17:22.04 | nevcairiel | just not as fat |
| 17:22.18 | Kraps | DWSR: the bonus thing ... thingy |
| 17:22.24 | DWSR | I ordered it so that, at midnight on Jan. 26th, 2010 I would be able to play ME2. |
| 17:22.42 | DWSR | Kraps: That's not a pre-order special. That's a deluxe edition thing. |
| 17:22.43 | nevcairiel | did they say which midnight? |
| 17:22.55 | nevcairiel | although by now we probably had all |
| 17:22.57 | Fisker | there's preorder specials too DWSR |
| 17:23.08 | DWSR | Fisker: Oh. *shrug* didn't know, don't care. |
| 17:23.17 | Kraps | yeah |
| 17:23.22 | DWSR | Anyway, my point is basically that the game release on Steam *should* be sync'ed with the developers. |
| 17:23.41 | DWSR | Because I can walk out to the local Gamestop and pick the game up *now*. |
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| 17:24.04 | Fisker | publishers choose release ;3 |
| 17:24.10 | haste | nevcairiel: don't think they are the same mate! |
| 17:24.13 | DWSR | Fisker: Sorry, that's what I meant. |
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| 17:24.41 | jnwhiteh | so, there's Pit of Saron, Halls of Reflection |
| 17:24.42 | jnwhiteh | and Forge of Souls |
| 17:24.45 | jnwhiteh | that's all there was in that release? |
| 17:24.54 | nevcairiel | and the raids, of course |
| 17:25.05 | jnwhiteh | which are ICC10 and 25 |
| 17:25.08 | jnwhiteh | is anyone still doing the tier 1 raids? |
| 17:25.10 | Fisker | typical whining jnwhiteh ! |
| 17:25.18 | Fisker | people still do MC yeah |
| 17:25.18 | nevcairiel | tier1 raids? like naxxramas? |
| 17:25.19 | jnwhiteh | just did HoR for the first time |
| 17:25.21 | Fisker | for legendaries and such |
| 17:25.24 | jnwhiteh | no, first gate ICC |
| 17:25.28 | jnwhiteh | I mean |
| 17:25.28 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:25.32 | jnwhiteh | I've foudn it tough to get into groups for them |
| 17:25.32 | Fisker | durr |
| 17:25.36 | Fisker | You have to do it |
| 17:25.36 | jnwhiteh | without ach =/ |
| 17:25.41 | nevcairiel | i dunno, guilds probably do a full clear :P |
| 17:25.44 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 17:25.44 | Fisker | that it's gated doesn't mean you can skip past it |
| 17:26.02 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: You can't skip any of the parts of ICC. |
| 17:26.06 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
| 17:26.11 | DWSR | You can not clear plagueworks and hit blood wing. |
| 17:26.13 | jnwhiteh | i dont pay attention to stuff like this |
| 17:26.24 | DWSR | But you're not going to be able to kill Arthas without clearing all of the wings, just like in Naxx. |
| 17:26.30 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 17:26.31 | Fisker | ICC also needs a lot of dps and stuff |
| 17:26.31 | jnwhiteh | makes sense |
| 17:26.38 | jnwhiteh | but they're longer raids, right? |
| 17:26.43 | jnwhiteh | hours or less? |
| 17:26.56 | Fisker | it's not that long actually |
| 17:27.09 | DWSR | You can clear the whole thing with a decent group in like 2 hours so far. |
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| 17:27.18 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
| 17:27.20 | DWSR | ICC is probably ~Naxx in terms of time. |
| 17:27.29 | jnwhiteh | I only did 2 wings of naxx, erver |
| 17:27.32 | DWSR | oh |
| 17:27.34 | jnwhiteh | and that was in an awesome heroic group with mikma |
| 17:27.35 | DWSR | You missed out. |
| 17:27.38 | jnwhiteh | i know =/ |
| 17:27.48 | DWSR | Full clears for Naxx took like 3+ hours, usually. |
| 17:27.56 | mikma_ | whaaaat? 700 dps sk? |
| 17:27.59 | DWSR | If you had a super geared group with good players, you could get it to about 2.5 |
| 17:28.08 | mikma_ | sk=dk |
| 17:28.31 | DWSR | mikma_: I had a warlock in a dungeon group yesterday who couldn't break 1k DPS at level 75. |
| 17:28.35 | DWSR | With Seed of Corruption |
| 17:28.50 | nicoli_s | hell i can top that at level 17! |
| 17:30.02 | mikma_ | dwsr: did he have str+agi gear on? |
| 17:30.14 | DWSR | No str+agi cloth mikma. |
| 17:30.28 | Fisker | why not DWSR ? |
| 17:32.46 | DWSR | i unno, ask blizzardf. |
| 17:32.49 | DWSR | blizzard* |
| 17:33.40 | kdtresh | i had some cloth of the monkey once |
| 17:33.47 | Ancu | What clothie needs agi? |
| 17:34.12 | DWSR | Ancu: Demo locks *lols* |
| 17:34.24 | Lopeppeppy | I got a shadow power shield once. |
| 17:34.30 | Lopeppeppy | Totally gave it to my warlock friend. |
| 17:34.41 | DWSR | lol |
| 17:34.52 | Fisker | exactly kdtresh |
| 17:34.55 | Lopeppeppy | He died a lot, obviously he needed a shield! |
| 17:35.11 | DWSR | Anyone here played the STO beta? |
| 17:35.24 | kdtresh | i listed it on the AH a few times in the hopes that some twink needed whatever it was of the monkey bad enough to buy cloth |
| 17:35.30 | Kraps | an ele shammy would generally use a staff over a mace right? |
| 17:35.37 | kdtresh | ended up DEing it |
| 17:35.49 | Fisker | yeah DWSR |
| 17:36.10 | DWSR | Kraps: No. |
| 17:36.13 | DWSR | Fisker: Any good. |
| 17:36.14 | DWSR | ?* |
| 17:36.50 | Kraps | DWSR: dont staves have better caster stats generally? |
| 17:36.57 | DWSR | Kraps: No. |
| 17:37.10 | DWSR | MH + OH > 2h for caster stats. |
| 17:37.27 | kdtresh | a staff will have better stats, typically, than a single mh |
| 17:37.37 | kdtresh | not mh + oh |
| 17:37.44 | Kraps | ah |
| 17:38.27 | DWSR | Kraps: If you have access to a decent OH (Chalice of Benedictus, Scourgelord's Baton, etc), you should find a decent caster weapon |
| 17:38.41 | DWSR | Frozen Bonespike, Frostneedle, etc. |
| 17:38.58 | DWSR | In fact, picked up my Frozen Bonespike the other day. |
| 17:39.01 | DWSR | Fucking win with 721sp on it. |
| 17:39.14 | Fisker | naw DWSR |
| 17:39.17 | kdtresh | my lock used curator's staff until he hit 80 because he never got a decent mh/oh |
| 17:39.21 | Fisker | but i could play it more than an hour |
| 17:39.21 | Kraps | yeah im still level 10 |
| 17:39.29 | Kraps | :) |
| 17:39.30 | Fisker | some people say it's decent when you get past the newbie stuff |
| 17:39.51 | DWSR | Kraps: Oh, I'm sorry. |
| 17:39.57 | DWSR | Leveling a shaman is so painful. |
| 17:39.58 | Lunessa | Wooo! Level 10! UBER |
| 17:39.59 | Kraps | np :) |
| 17:40.07 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles up to Lunessa |
| 17:40.14 | kdtresh | my shaman is 44, i think |
| 17:40.27 | Ancu | 42 drood |
| 17:40.29 | Lunessa | makes the snugglebunnies with Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:40.29 | kdtresh | i lack motivation to level him |
| 17:40.30 | DWSR | I leveled my lock using RAF, and I'm about to hit 80 on my DK. |
| 17:40.40 | DWSR | And honestly, I lack the motivation to go through the first 50 levels with any other character. |
| 17:40.42 | Ancu | healing on dialup ^_^ |
| 17:40.43 | DWSR | Even with full BoA. |
| 17:40.51 | kdtresh | my dk is 79 |
| 17:41.07 | Kraps | i have an abandoned enhance shammy, this one will be ele |
| 17:41.10 | kdtresh | i've been leveling him on tournament dailies and wintergrasp lately, lol |
| 17:42.45 | cogwheel | is amused by all the "Grounding Totem, we are legion" sigs on UI&M |
| 17:42.52 | Kraps | oh wait you can send boas between realms? |
| 17:43.19 | kdtresh | i'd think not |
| 17:43.24 | Ancu | DWSR, I did too untill the random dungeons came. |
| 17:43.25 | DWSR | Not yet. |
| 17:44.00 | Ancu | kraps, not as of yet, but it might change with the new chat system thats do to come |
| 17:44.03 | Lopeppeppy | is innnnnocent! |
| 17:44.18 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 17:44.34 | Lopeppeppy | Not am lies. Um... gentle fibbery |
| 17:45.41 | Fisker | zenzelezz |
| 17:45.51 | DWSR | Kraps: It will happen when they implement Battle.Net chat within WoW. |
| 17:46.29 | Kraps | will that be around cata? |
| 17:47.04 | Fisker | probably sometime during the SC2 beta |
| 17:47.29 | alestane | What is Lopeppeppy innocent of now? |
| 17:47.42 | Fisker | and what does that have to do with BoA's Ancu? |
| 17:48.32 | Ancu | fisker, which reply are you replying too? |
| 17:49.20 | DWSR | Fisker: implementing B.net chat will probably be the excuse they need to roll out the framework to trade boa's between toons of different realms. |
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| 17:49.54 | Ancu | agreed, that is what I had intended. |
| 17:49.57 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 17:50.10 | DWSR | zomg. |
| 17:50.16 | DWSR | freenode's finally moving to ircd-seven? |
| 17:50.21 | Fisker | old |
| 17:50.36 | Ancu | They may or may not. But we wont know until they do... |
| 17:50.43 | nevcairiel | this weekend, i thought |
| 17:50.56 | Ancu | ^in response to fiskers dissagree |
| 17:51.19 | Fisker | still won't have anything to do with the battle.net stuff |
| 17:51.42 | Fisker | But it's likely going to come in the next semi-major patch which is likely when b.net chat will come as well |
| 17:52.01 | Kalroth | I disagree too |
| 17:52.07 | nevcairiel | like, 4.0? |
| 17:52.25 | DWSR | Fisker: As I said, it's not that it's related, it's that it will just happen at the same time so that way everything's done at once, not over 3 maintenance periods. |
| 17:52.25 | Fisker | maybe |
| 17:52.38 | Fisker | but i think they'll have it earlier actually |
| 17:52.43 | nevcairiel | I wonder if they push 4.0 a bit faster, or if they produce some intermediate instance to fit in the next month |
| 17:52.46 | Fisker | atleast as some kind of beta |
| 17:53.06 | nevcairiel | it will be at least half a year until 4.0 |
| 17:53.13 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:53.17 | nevcairiel | so thats long for just iCC |
| 17:53.20 | Fisker | and i think they want to test it when SC2 beta starts |
| 17:53.23 | DWSR | Not really. |
| 17:53.26 | Fisker | which should be in a month or 2 |
| 17:53.33 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I'm innocent of all but malice |
| 17:53.41 | nevcairiel | we usually never have 6 month without a content patch |
| 17:53.53 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Except right before expansion releases. |
| 17:53.58 | Thunder_Child | wrong Fisker |
| 17:54.00 | Thunder_Child | so wrong |
| 17:54.06 | Fisker | i disagree Thunder_Child |
| 17:54.11 | DWSR | iirc, it was almost 6 months between SW and 3.0 |
| 17:55.02 | nevcairiel | but back then the game was more fun still! |
| 17:55.06 | DWSR | lol |
| 17:55.54 | DWSR | When was SW released? |
| 17:55.55 | DWSR | 2.4.3? |
| 17:56.00 | nevcairiel | 2.4.0 |
| 17:56.03 | nevcairiel | of coruse |
| 17:56.29 | kd3 | how long was it between 2.1 and 2.3? |
| 17:56.32 | kd3 | >.> |
| 17:56.45 | DWSR | 2.4.0 was released March 25th |
| 17:56.54 | DWSR | 3.0.0 was released Oct. 14th. |
| 17:56.55 | kdtresh | are new copies of wow still loading 1.0? |
| 17:56.58 | DWSR | Yes.\ |
| 17:57.05 | nevcairiel | 2.1.0 (2007-05-22) |
| 17:57.06 | nevcairiel | Patch 2.3.0 (2007-11-13) |
| 17:57.12 | nevcairiel | kd3 ^ |
| 17:57.40 | kdtresh | so new users get to download like 2gb+ of patches before they can play, even with vanilla |
| 17:58.00 | DWSR | yep. |
| 17:58.03 | nevcairiel | If you get the downloaded version, you start with 3.0.2 |
| 17:58.08 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 17:58.11 | DWSR | It's a 6GB download though |
| 17:58.14 | nevcairiel | which is still about 1gb of patches |
| 17:58.37 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 17:58.43 | kd3 | all of the various ways to get up to current ^ |
| 17:59.06 | DWSR | kd3: the download installer is easily the best way to get a fresh install up to 3.0.2 |
| 17:59.15 | DWSR | Got the download + install done in under an hour. |
| 17:59.57 | DWSR | holy shit. |
| 18:00.00 | DWSR | ME2, COME ON\ |
| 18:00.12 | Fisker | i came |
| 18:00.23 | DWSR | O_O |
| 18:00.31 | DWSR | It's released as far as the Steam Store tells me. |
| 18:00.35 | DWSR | But my Steam client won't let me play it. |
| 18:00.42 | kd3 | relog in steam? |
| 18:00.45 | Kraps | DWSR: careful or wrex will bust your face |
| 18:00.46 | DWSR | trying that |
| 18:00.48 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:00.51 | DWSR | I shot Wrex. |
| 18:00.59 | Fisker | DWSR |
| 18:01.00 | Fisker | just a hint |
| 18:01.07 | Fisker | The unlock process isn't automated |
| 18:01.24 | DWSR | I already bought the gd game. |
| 18:01.28 | kdtresh | well, guess i need to break out my 16gb flash drive for these patches, lol |
| 18:01.29 | DWSR | I have a receipt for my payment. |
| 18:01.34 | DWSR | What do I need to do to unlock this? |
| 18:01.46 | Kraps | omg you bastard |
| 18:01.50 | kd3 | ...wtf? |
| 18:01.56 | kd3 | a AA battery charger over USB? |
| 18:02.13 | Kraps | punching the reporter was awesome btw |
| 18:02.35 | Fisker | http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=498 <-F5 like the wind DWSR |
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| 18:04.03 | Kraps | "What if Mass Effect 2 was actually one big rickroll file we just preloaded? I don't know if I'd be bummed or laugh." |
| 18:04.18 | Kraps | ^ |
| 18:04.52 | DWSR | There it is. |
| 18:04.54 | DWSR | time to playe. |
| 18:04.55 | DWSR | play* |
| 18:04.57 | DWSR | be back. |
| 18:04.58 | DWSR | NEVAR! |
| 18:05.02 | Kraps | lol |
| 18:05.17 | Lopeppeppy | I hate pages with no clear ownership. Rawr. |
| 18:09.26 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/22748997906-done.html |
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| 18:11.52 | kd3 | har, steam update: "Fixed issue preventing preloading for Mass Effect 2" |
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| 18:12.54 | Ancu | Friend of mine is trying to convert me into using fubar |
| 18:12.57 | zenzelezz | oh boo hoo. This 78 year old guy failed to pay his electricity bill for more than six months. The provider tried several times since May to contact him, including visiting him, but never got a hold of him. So at the end of November they cut the power to his flat. Now he's found inside, dead from freezing, and people start complaining |
| 18:13.24 | zenzelezz | he owned his own apartment, didn't notify anyone that he was having trouble paying his bills or needed social care, and all people can say is "zomgs how could they!" |
| 18:14.06 | Fisker | old kd3 |
| 18:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | In many states, it's illegal to cut power/heat from October through... March I think. |
| 18:14.11 | theorbtwo | sighs. |
| 18:14.16 | Thunder_Child | maybe he was dead before they dtired to contact him, hence being unable to |
| 18:14.26 | Thunder_Child | tried* |
| 18:14.28 | Ancu | ^ |
| 18:14.31 | theorbtwo | It's a shame, but whatever, they aren't to blame. |
| 18:14.39 | Ancu | agreed |
| 18:15.17 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: i think thats only landlords, not power companies |
| 18:15.27 | Kraps | i may be wrong though |
| 18:16.18 | Ancu | So, am I the only one that sees no point in using titan panel/fubar? |
| 18:16.43 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: this is Norway. Anyway, all indications were no-one lived there anymore |
| 18:16.50 | theorbtwo | Kraps: In Pennsylvania, it's power companies, but not landlords. |
| 18:17.22 | Lopeppeppy | In NY, I think it's utility companies. |
| 18:17.34 | Fisker | so Thunder_Child |
| 18:17.41 | Fisker | are you going to prove a nigger wrong? |
| 18:17.45 | Lopeppeppy | Ancu, I haven't used either one in a long while. I use SL Datatext on a kgpanel. |
| 18:17.52 | Lopeppeppy | When I use anything at all. |
| 18:17.55 | Fisker | btw |
| 18:18.06 | Fisker | we need to see more forum posts from Tyren |
| 18:18.06 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, do not make me beat you. |
| 18:18.08 | Fisker | and Drysc |
| 18:18.19 | Fisker | Thunder_Child couldn't so i don't think you can |
| 18:18.29 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes |
| 18:18.30 | zenzelezz | <Thunder_Child> maybe he was dead before they dtired to contact him, hence being unable to <-- this wasn't the case, the coroner determined he'd been dead about one month. Ironically the lack of power in the cold probably helped make sure his body didn't decay much |
| 18:18.30 | Fisker | DAMN! |
| 18:18.34 | Fisker | Drysc is Bashiok |
| 18:18.39 | Fisker | that's just lame |
| 18:18.50 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 18:19.05 | Kraps | Fisker: OOOOOOLD |
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| 18:19.52 | Ancu | what about this: Logic dictates that if your powers out youshould call your power company and say "WTF?" or find some place warm to stay |
| 18:20.41 | Fisker | why don't you try and stop me Thunder_Child ? |
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| 18:24.23 | Fisker | btw |
| 18:24.30 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: stop you from what? |
| 18:24.32 | Fisker | dual-spec should allow you to take 2 quest items |
| 18:24.37 | Fisker | from telling the truth Thunder_Child |
| 18:25.15 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: 'the truth' != 'what you think the truth is' |
| 18:25.51 | Ackis | yay! futureshop has some ME2 CE's!!! |
| 18:25.57 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 18:26.04 | Fisker | Thunder_Child that's what the government wants you to believe |
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| 18:26.58 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: which one? |
| 18:27.20 | Fisker | the |
| 18:31.22 | NeoTron | Ackis: fisked already finised ME2, the haxor he is |
| 18:31.55 | Ackis | NeoTron: not on the XBOX |
| 18:31.58 | Ackis | XBOX > PC |
| 18:31.59 | Ackis | HAH |
| 18:32.02 | NeoTron | and btw it's bullshit that steam ME2 doesn't unlock until this after noon. or rather the normal one seemed to be about 10 am but the "digital special edition" not until like 2pm )PST) |
| 18:32.08 | Fisker | PC > XBOX |
| 18:32.14 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 18:32.17 | NeoTron | not that it matters - I'm at work |
| 18:32.24 | NeoTron | and yeah, PC clearly > XBOX :P |
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| 18:33.47 | Fisker | also NeoTron i believe that was just a bug |
| 18:35.20 | Ancu | I just finished reading through http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/22748997906-done.html Wow. I don |
| 18:35.29 | Ancu | don't get people like this* |
| 18:36.18 | Ancu | I don't spend hours a day playing this game on dialup because of bandwagon bull crap. I play because I love playing. |
| 18:37.29 | NeoTron | lies |
| 18:37.54 | Ancu | nope, I love running through dungeons day in and out |
| 18:37.58 | DWSR | NeoTron: The DDE currently is unlocked here. |
| 18:38.31 | Ancu | even the ones I hate, I think I enjoy running those even more so because I get to vent steam by cursing out my laptop |
| 18:41.03 | DWSR | NeoTron: The DDE is currently unlocked where I am. restart your steam a few times. |
| 18:41.13 | DWSR | NeoTron: After you get it to unlock, launch the game, then restart steam a few more times. |
| 18:41.27 | DWSR | NeoTron: Then Steam will decrypt the stuff on your harddrive so that you can ACTUALLY play the game. |
| 18:42.27 | DWSR | I already reg'ed all my promo codes at http://social.bioware.com/redeem/ though, so all the DLC is just waiting for my Steam to decrypt. |
| 18:42.39 | Fisker | hey NeoTron |
| 18:42.54 | Ancu | The only thing that bugs me about steam, is that the backup system is hit and miss. Sometimes you have better luck trying to pray it from one PC to another |
| 18:43.09 | DWSR | Ancu: I never bother with a backup, usually. |
| 18:43.26 | DWSR | I probably will for ME2 though |
| 18:43.31 | DWSR | Just for the DLC + the Saves. |
| 18:43.51 | theorbtwo | I've bothered with a backup, but only as a way of copying a large game from one machine to another without re-downloading it. |
| 18:43.52 | Ancu | Yeah, but when your trying to install a game on another PC without redownloading the thing. And thats not just a dialup concern |
| 18:44.19 | DWSR | Ancu: Mhm |
| 18:44.23 | Ancu | Sometimes it works, sometimes it dosn't |
| 18:44.42 | Ancu | quite frustrating |
| 18:44.46 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:44.46 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 18:44.58 | DWSR | This whole 'decrypting' nonsense is pretty f***ing frustrating. |
| 18:45.11 | DWSR | So first I get a delayed release, now I have to decrypt the fucking thing. |
| 18:46.22 | jnwhiteh | WowProgramming: second edition has come off the printers and is on the way to the distributer |
| 18:46.27 | jnwhiteh | over a week early O.o |
| 18:46.37 | Fisker | so you disowned WOW HACKING!? |
| 18:47.32 | Ancu | When is it due to release? |
| 18:47.51 | jnwhiteh | Ancu: imminently. |
| 18:48.26 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 18:48.28 | DWSR | Amazing. |
| 18:48.36 | DWSR | ME2 DLC can't find my Steam ME2 install. |
| 18:48.38 | DWSR | Fantastic. |
| 18:49.55 | Ancu | DWSR: throw the PC out a 10th story window, solves all your problems, lol |
| 18:50.03 | Fisker | nah |
| 18:50.07 | Fisker | Bioware just needs to L2P |
| 18:50.18 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:50.20 | DWSR | ^^ |
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| 18:51.17 | DWSR | YAY. IT LIVES. |
| 18:51.23 | DWSR | ....it's installing DirectX. |
| 18:51.30 | DWSR | facepalms |
| 18:51.49 | alestane | jnwhiteh: Wootness! |
| 18:51.50 | Ancu | alright, wow should be up soon, see alls next tuesday |
| 18:52.26 | Fisker | Do you get royalties in excess of one nexus one per book or below? |
| 18:52.29 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 18:52.38 | jnwhiteh | below |
| 18:52.48 | Fisker | damn |
| 18:53.10 | alestane | Generally, no-one pays royalties in excess of the product's sale price. |
| 18:53.27 | cogwheel | shame, that |
| 18:53.29 | Fisker | they don't?! |
| 18:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | Generally. :) |
| 18:55.55 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i should get the new one, just for the collection |
| 18:56.23 | Fisker | yeah so you can develop some quality addons instead |
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| 18:57.08 | |Jelly| | tackle-hugs Peppy! |
| 18:57.19 | nevcairiel | i really havent looked in the original book, for a reference i prefer online .. and the guides .. well, not much to teach me :P |
| 18:57.51 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: I saw your retoot :P |
| 19:01.18 | DWSR | ME2. Finally. |
| 19:01.20 | DWSR | and with full unlocks. |
| 19:01.22 | DWSR | LATER |
| 19:01.25 | DWSR | AND BY THAT I MEAN NEVAR |
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| 19:01.34 | nevcairiel | finally he is gone |
| 19:01.52 | Thunder_Child | finaly dwsr shuts up |
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| 19:05.05 | Lunessa | Antiarc: Nice post. 5 stars, would read again. Would recommend to other posters. |
| 19:05.19 | nevcairiel | what post? |
| 19:05.19 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:05.36 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22749238271&sid=1 |
| 19:05.38 | cogwheel | imo |
| 19:05.43 | Lunessa | It's deliciously good. |
| 19:05.57 | Lunessa | "4) Don't use Internet Explorer. Seriously. Use Firefox, Chrome, Safari, or Opera. Internet Explorer is a recipe for pain (and it makes web developers hate you). " |
| 19:05.59 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 19:06.04 | Fisker | exactly |
| 19:08.08 | Ackis | cogwheel: can you sign my man-boobs? |
| 19:08.59 | cogwheel | as long as you disinfect them first |
| 19:09.11 | |Jelly| | wow |
| 19:09.15 | |Jelly| | This is getting kind of graphic. |
| 19:09.25 | cogwheel | XD |
| 19:09.49 | |Jelly| | hates patch day -- too many auctions to relist. |
| 19:10.06 | Lunessa | 48 hour listing FTW |
| 19:10.50 | ZorbaBeta | I so wish WoW would rejigger the AH to be more Eve-like :( |
| 19:10.55 | |Jelly| | no thanks -- too many people undercut to waste that kind of srs money! :P |
| 19:11.27 | ZorbaBeta | 90-day listings, buy orders, sane handling of bulk commodities |
| 19:11.35 | zenzelezz | im in ur ah stealin ur custmers |
| 19:11.40 | |Jelly| | I wish they'd revamp the search to be more like EQ, where you can search for a specific attribute. |
| 19:12.32 | Lunessa | EQ makes me QQ |
| 19:12.41 | |Jelly| | I miss my ranger. |
| 19:12.46 | |Jelly| | Hunters just aren't the same |
| 19:12.54 | |Jelly| | And well, my druid .. |
| 19:12.57 | |Jelly| | ANYWYA |
| 19:13.03 | Lunessa | I don't mis EQ at all. |
| 19:13.08 | zenzelezz | I miss my Fixer |
| 19:13.13 | |Jelly| | Curse stole my passwordz! /runs |
| 19:13.46 | Lunessa | catapults |Jelly| into the sun with a railgun. |
| 19:13.50 | Fisker | i'm here zenzelezz |
| 19:13.58 | zenzelezz | fixer, not Fisker |
| 19:14.12 | Fisker | i'm here zenzelezz |
| 19:14.23 | zenzelezz | pushes Fisker off the cliff |
| 19:14.26 | zenzelezz | not anymore |
| 19:14.26 | |Jelly| | Not too close! My wings will melt! |
| 19:14.31 | Fisker | i'm here zenzelezz |
| 19:14.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+bb %*!*@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk %*!n=brb@*] by Shiibot |
| 19:14.33 | Lopeppeppy | steals Jelly's other password! |
| 19:14.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 19:14.43 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 19:14.45 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, who just got the banstick? |
| 19:14.50 | zenzelezz | Fisker |
| 19:14.50 | nevcairiel | fisker |
| 19:14.54 | |Jelly| | Oh baby, you don't have to steal it! :P |
| 19:15.02 | nevcairiel | he repeated the same line 3 times |
| 19:15.09 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, that's right. |
| 19:15.25 | Lopeppeppy | His own fault then, I can't sympathize. :) |
| 19:15.28 | nevcairiel | but technically its just a silence not a ban :d |
| 19:15.43 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, silence is golden, please turn off your cell phones now? |
| 19:18.03 | Ackis | haha Fisker can't talk |
| 19:18.19 | Ackis | it's like Christmas |
| 19:18.24 | Ackis | but a present I've always wanted |
| 19:19.30 | Ackis | 12:18Fiskeri can spam you in pms though |
| 19:19.36 | Ackis | Fisker has pms apparently |
| 19:19.44 | Thunder_Child | this we all knew |
| 19:19.48 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, Fisker, you can have *my* PMS if you want extra. |
| 19:19.59 | Ackis | did I mention I got ME2 CE/ |
| 19:20.03 | Ackis | w/ pre-order bonus? |
| 19:20.53 | Thunder_Child | we had enough from DWSR, GTFO |
| 19:21.16 | Ackis | nein! |
| 19:21.17 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ50PYMXDCQ |
| 19:21.18 | Kraps | I cant believe these 2 hosts just spent 20 minuets arguing about what rex ryan meant when he said "the jets are the biggest show in town" |
| 19:21.29 | Ackis | the only way I could like ME2 better is if it came from the loins of my fiance! |
| 19:21.39 | Ackis | (plesae don't repeat that I'm already in the dog house) |
| 19:21.51 | Lopeppeppy | ... Ackis, you know I can access her, right? Dog house travels. |
| 19:21.52 | Kraps | Ackis: did you know her |
| 19:21.53 | Lopeppeppy | *poke* |
| 19:22.12 | Ackis | hence why I asked you not to repeat it Lopeppeppy! :D |
| 19:22.15 | Kraps | you should |
| 19:22.45 | Ackis | nein! |
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| 19:22.55 | Ackis | Kraps: enjoying this Fisker free time? |
| 19:23.00 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: wouldnt that be a complement to her though? |
| 19:23.28 | Ackis | I cannot comment! |
| 19:23.38 | Lopeppeppy | TC, trust me, it would most likely not be. I'm a pretty generous geek girlfriend and that would get my boyfriend smacked. |
| 19:23.56 | zenzelezz | why is that? |
| 19:23.58 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: seriously? |
| 19:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | This one is hard to explain, but thou shalt not compare my crotch to a video game, even if my crotch is the tentative winner of the dispute. |
| 19:25.02 | Kraps | Ackis: you should know her, i heard that knowing your woman makes her hate you less |
| 19:25.21 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: read it. it's not a comparison, it's more of a birth thing |
| 19:25.21 | zenzelezz | who said he was comparing? |
| 19:25.51 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, was it truly about giving birth, regarding this video game as an infant? |
| 19:25.59 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 19:26.07 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I'm afraid to answer |
| 19:26.08 | Thunder_Child | thats not what i meant |
| 19:26.22 | Kraps | this conversation in awesome |
| 19:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh-huh. I don't assign higher meanings to the utterings of gamer guys when a sexy/dirty one is available. |
| 19:26.46 | Lopeppeppy | winks at Ackis. |
| 19:26.54 | Ackis | Kraps: it's awesome cuz Fisker can't talk |
| 19:26.56 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: :P |
| 19:27.00 | Thunder_Child | what was dirty about that? |
| 19:27.03 | zenzelezz | that makes you vulnerable to misinterpretation |
| 19:27.20 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: birth is a dirty process... blood, goo, ripping |
| 19:27.40 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: is hardly 'sexy/dirty' |
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| 19:28.51 | Lopeppeppy | "from the loins" is open to interpretation. |
| 19:29.43 | Kraps | yeah, how do you "gird" your loins? |
| 19:29.56 | KarlKFI|work | with girders |
| 19:30.20 | KarlKFI|work | and welding |
| 19:30.42 | KarlKFI|work | ~cyborg |
| 19:30.43 | purl | Web-based backoffice application suite. URL: http://www.cyber.com.au/cyber/product/cyborg/ |
| 19:30.44 | cogwheel | and rivets |
| 19:30.49 | cogwheel | mmmmm rivets |
| 19:31.11 | Lunessa | ow. ow. ow. Rivets. |
| 19:31.14 | Kraps | i dont want metal and welding near my loins kthnks |
| 19:31.15 | KarlKFI|work | mmm that link is fail. Fail, purl. |
| 19:34.26 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: dont knock it till you have tried it |
| 19:34.47 | Kraps | ... |
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| 19:43.09 | Kraps | so, win 7 is definitely faster than vista? |
| 19:43.26 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 19:43.55 | Kraps | lies |
| 19:44.06 | Kraps | really? |
| 19:44.19 | Lopeppeppy | how many freakin' bios can they WRITE about this dead guy? *grump* |
| 19:44.26 | cogwheel | it definitely feels faster, though performance comparisons show them to be pretty equal depending on the measurement |
| 19:44.28 | Thunder_Child | it has lower system requirements, which can have the same effect, but i dont know thats it's actually faster |
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| 19:46.21 | KarlKFI|work | mine's faster. i got a velociraptor for it |
| 19:46.27 | Lunessa | Faster start up and faster wake from sleep. |
| 19:46.31 | cogwheel | http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/windows_7_review?page=0,3 |
| 19:46.47 | KarlKFI|work | tho OS X wins on my X25-M :) |
| 19:47.12 | cbreak | my mac doesn't sleep |
| 19:47.16 | cbreak | so needs not to wake up |
| 19:47.21 | cogwheel | Kraps: are you asking because you haven't decided whether you want to upgrade? if so, DO EEEET! |
| 19:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | Still trying to decide on upgrading, cogwheel. Big old PITA. |
| 19:49.27 | cbreak | upgrade to snow leopard if you can. |
| 19:49.29 | cbreak | it's worth it |
| 19:49.45 | cbreak | but anything is better than xp/vista I guess |
| 19:50.09 | Kraps | vista feels like its holding back, minor hangups disguised as cpu activity especially when browsing the hard drive |
| 19:50.11 | Lopeppeppy | cbreak, I have a pc, it's not gettin animal installations. :P |
| 19:50.31 | cbreak | UNLEASH THE LEOPARD! |
| 19:50.57 | cbreak | how can you disguise something as CPU activity? |
| 19:50.59 | cogwheel | Kraps: that's the kind of performance annoyance they were targeting with 7 |
| 19:51.25 | cogwheel | when i first installed Vista in 07, drive-to-drive copying went at ~4 MB/s |
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| 19:51.44 | nevcairiel | that was vista pre-sp1 .. man that was fun |
| 19:51.51 | cogwheel | eventually it was patched so now i get in the 10-15 range. On 7 it's usually ~30 |
| 19:51.56 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Who's dead? |
| 19:52.05 | Kraps | cbreak: its vista, it might even be sentient |
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| 19:52.19 | cbreak | first sentience with negative IQ? |
| 19:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | I killed someone? |
| 19:53.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'd need the Family Pack to upgrade both of my monsters, since I want everyone eating off the same plate in the end. |
| 19:53.31 | Thunder_Child | why bother creating AI when we have natural stupidity |
| 19:53.46 | cbreak | grant money. |
| 19:53.47 | alestane | [2:44pm] Lopeppeppy: how many freakin' bios can they WRITE about this dead guy? *grump* |
| 19:54.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, some donor dude, alestane. They've tweaked his bio like a dozen times in two days, I have to repost it every damn time. Getting annoying. He's been dead for like... 15 years, you'd think they'd have something written by now! |
| 19:55.16 | Kraps | cbreak: thats the only way to explain it *nod* |
| 19:55.25 | cogwheel | dead people suck |
| 19:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | Dead people need to get proactive and write their own bios. |
| 19:56.17 | cogwheel | but then people get mad at them for being egotistical |
| 19:56.21 | Lopeppeppy | has the cranky. |
| 19:57.08 | |Jelly| | So that's cool. |
| 19:57.37 | |Jelly| | I finally get the stupid Scourge Curio to drop. Then I combine it with my gems, the server lags and the curio along with both gems disappear. |
| 19:57.50 | Lopeppeppy | I hate Tuesdays. |
| 19:57.54 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Jelly. |
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| 19:59.13 | cogwheel | yay raid night |
| 19:59.24 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: level faster! |
| 19:59.37 | |Jelly| | cogwheel: I'll never raid on KT on Tuesday. |
| 19:59.53 | cogwheel | LIEZ! |
| 20:00.02 | cogwheel | notices how no one has poked Shirik re: Fisker |
| 20:00.24 | |Jelly| | "Our Raid Schedule: * Tuesday - 6:30pm SERVER TIME until 10:30pm SERVER TIME (at least)" <3 |
| 20:00.26 | nevcairiel | isnt it a time limited ban anyway? |
| 20:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno, Shiibot likes people a lot. |
| 20:01.28 | Thunder_Child | i seem to see Shirik manually undo it |
| 20:03.51 | Kraps | cool invoice number 1040494997 |
| 20:05.44 | Kraps | cogwheel: toc 25 with the other guild? |
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| 20:09.55 | cogwheel | weekly |
| 20:10.01 | cogwheel | 25-man's on thurs & sat |
| 20:10.34 | Lopeppeppy | dies of jealousy! :) |
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| 20:10.56 | cogwheel | dies of hoping your surgery works out! |
| 20:11.21 | Seerah | oooh - raid night! |
| 20:11.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm still hoping I can *have* it, I'm not having luck with finding a responsible adult to ferry me. *le sigh* |
| 20:12.31 | cogwheel | *le sympathetic sigh* |
| 20:12.37 | Seerah | I'd take you |
| 20:12.40 | Seerah | if I could :) |
| 20:13.02 | Kraps | is sad that he cannot raid |
| 20:13.29 | cogwheel | o sweet... a weekly i've never done before |
| 20:13.39 | alestane | That's tough, I have classes Thursday and Friday morning, so if your date is still when I remember, it's right in between...kinda hard to drive there and back in time, if I could do it at all. |
| 20:13.47 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Seerah! I'm sure I'll find someone out there, if I have to pay some random college student or something. It's just nervous to be all unconscioius. |
| 20:13.48 | cogwheel | i never stepped foot into the original nax, let alone the one in wrath |
| 20:14.18 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, it's Thursday at some point that I will not learn until Wednesday, so you're right out. Although being willing to drive 4 hours makes you uber win. *hug* |
| 20:14.26 | Kraps | cogwheel: really? :o |
| 20:14.45 | Kraps | naxx is sweet |
| 20:14.45 | cogwheel | Kraps: the last regular raiding I did was on my lock. MC & BWL ftw |
| 20:14.47 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I don't even know how to get there, that's how little foot I've stepped into Naxx. |
| 20:14.51 | Seerah | ooh, it's Nax? And old guild did the original Naxx one night (at lvl 70) but that's the only time I've been in there besides watching hubby |
| 20:15.28 | Kraps | eyes the channel strangely |
| 20:15.37 | cogwheel | hell, i've only been to Ulduar about 5 times, and mostly to the same two bosses |
| 20:16.26 | |Jelly| | I love[d] Ulduar |
| 20:16.29 | Thunder_Child | my guild is so tired of doing ulduar you would have to pay them to get them in there |
| 20:16.54 | nevcairiel | ulduar is a nice instance, if you havent overdone it yet |
| 20:17.01 | Kraps | i've done ulduar up to mimi |
| 20:17.25 | cogwheel | my personal emp generator comes in quite handy there :) |
| 20:17.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love to see all these places! They hit just as I was moving, and my hand became useless. |
| 20:18.16 | zenzelezz | I took a break before 3.1, returned a bit before 3.3... now I've resigned myself to not raiding until Cataclysm |
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| 20:18.31 | zenzelezz | too difficult to find a decent guild that would take me in |
| 20:18.37 | cogwheel | *cough* |
| 20:18.42 | cogwheel | (or are you EU?) |
| 20:18.50 | zenzelezz | yup, EU |
| 20:19.05 | |Jelly| | GT is too nice. :P |
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| 20:19.33 | |Jelly| | Lunessa needs to unleash the inner asshole next time I'm online. |
| 20:19.33 | cogwheel | wut |
| 20:19.40 | |Jelly| | prepares to not be in a guild next time he logs on. |
| 20:19.46 | Seerah | ??? |
| 20:20.03 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: sure sign you haven't been on regularly enough :> |
| 20:20.08 | Lunessa | Lunessa is generally to hopped up right now to be anything but nice. |
| 20:20.18 | |Jelly| | cog, log on my server. :P |
| 20:20.23 | alestane | That's a ton of work for making a window appear and color-cycle periodically, but hey, it works so far! Now to start implementing useful functionality. |
| 20:20.30 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: with Lunessa around i mean ;) |
| 20:20.37 | |Jelly| | He gave me glyphs! |
| 20:20.45 | |Jelly| | I didn't even have to do a druid strip tease for them! |
| 20:21.02 | zenzelezz | alestane: sounds useful |
| 20:21.02 | alestane | Or maybe I'll go level my new druid for a bit. |
| 20:21.25 | alestane | zenzelezz: I'm building a shell for sprite-based game authoring in Lua. |
| 20:22.00 | alestane | And unfortunately, my particular learning style pretty much requires that I make almost every mistake imaginable exactly once. |
| 20:22.03 | cogwheel | i'm in ur sprites parallaxing ur backgrounds |
| 20:22.19 | krka_ | anyone know why rotate minimap/invert mouse/et.c. are server settings instead of per install-settings? |
| 20:22.26 | krka_ | or per character |
| 20:22.51 | zenzelezz | they are? o_O |
| 20:23.13 | alestane | I'd much rather have "Invert Mouse" stored per-account. |
| 20:23.15 | Thunder_Child | welcomes alestane to the club and hands him a badge |
| 20:23.15 | cogwheel | krka_: tbh, i'd be annoyed if invert mouse wasn't server-side |
| 20:23.31 | zenzelezz | I'm with alestane on "invert mouse" |
| 20:23.34 | alestane | Which club is this, Thunder_Child? |
| 20:23.36 | cogwheel | and the various other mouse/camera interactions |
| 20:23.49 | Thunder_Child | alestane: the 'do everything the hard way' club |
| 20:23.54 | |Jelly| | I don't know how you people play with invert mouse. |
| 20:24.03 | |Jelly| | Yes, you people. |
| 20:24.06 | zenzelezz | matter of habit |
| 20:24.18 | zenzelezz | if you do, it comes naturally to you, and "non-inverted" feels wrong |
| 20:24.42 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: i went from playing joystick space shooters to FPS. invert was more "natural" from that pov (pull back = look up) |
| 20:24.52 | alestane | Some peoples' brains want to move the camera with the mouse, other people want to move the view focus with the mouse. |
| 20:24.59 | cogwheel | wow was the first game i stopped inverting |
| 20:25.19 | |Jelly| | All I'm hearing is that Cog is a dirty blasphemer. |
| 20:25.23 | zenzelezz | "invert mouse" is for people on the southern hemisphere |
| 20:25.39 | smcn | i was inverted for years, and then i moved from the northwest to utah and inexplicably i couldn't play inverted anymore |
| 20:25.41 | Kraps | lol |
| 20:26.19 | |Jelly| | Oh god .. people are bitching about their $15/month in trade. /facepalm |
| 20:28.18 | Lunessa | Raiding tonight ought to be fun. Hydrocodone = goofy Unkle. |
| 20:28.35 | zenzelezz | how is that different from normal? |
| 20:28.35 | Thunder_Child | sounds like a drug |
| 20:29.09 | |Jelly| | yay! PoS with a tank who's got 28k with fort! |
| 20:29.39 | zenzelezz | score! |
| 20:29.57 | |Jelly| | if nothing, it'll be interesting |
| 20:29.59 | Kraps | |Jelly|: ... |
| 20:30.04 | Thunder_Child | "Hydrocodone, for all of your nighttime sniffleing, sneezing, 'sword stuck in your gut' issues." |
| 20:30.13 | Kraps | dont do it |
| 20:30.32 | Kraps | the cookies arent wort it |
| 20:30.37 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:31.08 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22749567471&sid=1&pageNo=2 needs moar Jellie imo |
| 20:31.14 | |Jelly| | oh, so I did have something funny happen last night. |
| 20:31.44 | |Jelly| | I was in HoR and got bitched at for pulling off the tank ... as the healer. |
| 20:32.29 | Thunder_Child | they are absolutly right |Jelly|, stop healing! |
| 20:32.54 | |Jelly| | You're right. I see the error of my ways. |
| 20:33.01 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
| 20:34.13 | Kraps | zomg GT taking over the ui forum |
| 20:34.42 | Lunessa | You will be assimilated. |
| 20:34.43 | Seerah | see? you *will* be assimilated! |
| 20:34.49 | Seerah | :D |
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| 20:36.15 | cogwheel | chuckles |
| 20:36.22 | cogwheel | Machan lurves him some UGT |
| 20:37.08 | Kraps | yeah hes obsessed :p |
| 20:37.59 | Seerah | hubby's server has Ulduar as their weekly |
| 20:38.48 | zenzelezz | it's individual from server to server |
| 20:38.48 | |Jelly| | Maly here. lol |
| 20:38.57 | Seerah | ahhh |
| 20:40.11 | Kraps | only weekly ive ever done is razorscale, once |
| 20:40.43 | Lopeppeppy | thinks machan is adorabubble |
| 20:40.54 | zenzelezz | he's a paladin? |
| 20:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | IIRC, yes. :) |
| 20:41.54 | Kraps | when are you logging on peppy? :) |
| 20:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | When I have two working hands, Kraps. You have no idea how much it hurts to type... |
| 20:43.04 | zenzelezz | if you were a guy that would open up so many jokes |
| 20:43.14 | Kraps | wow its been a while, you broke it? |
| 20:43.45 | Lopeppeppy | Not broken, tendon issue. surgery is schedule for 2/25 if I can find me a responsible adult to take me hither and back. |
| 20:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | I couldn't have surgery until Rosie was better -- only one girl in stitches at a time in this household, it's my firm rule. |
| 20:46.55 | zenzelezz | will you have a collar too, so Rosie doesn't feel she was being treated unfairly? |
| 20:46.59 | Lunessa | lurves Lopeppeppy. |
| 20:47.58 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, not in public I won't. :) |
| 20:48.14 | Lopeppeppy | I love you too, Lunessa. I think in a few weeks I'm going to be wishing I had your painkillers though! |
| 20:49.53 | Lunessa | Oh, they'll give you some. Yes they will. |
| 20:50.58 | Lunessa | The dentist looked at me and said "We're going to give you narcotics for the pain" and smiled. |
| 20:51.34 | Lunessa | I felt like I should be in a movie just before the montage of my descent into addiction and a life of sleazy sex and crime. |
| 20:51.47 | Lopeppeppy | I wish all doctors were as even-minded about pain management. He's sticking knives in my hand and promises that tylenol is enough. |
| 20:52.06 | Thunder_Child | i hate pain killers, they supress my natural lazyness |
| 20:52.08 | Lunessa | Actually, he might be right. |
| 20:53.16 | Lopeppeppy | He said that about the cortisone injection and he was wrong. I have messed up nerve conductivity in that arm, small "upsets" lead to big pain due to the nerve damage. |
| 20:53.36 | zenzelezz | you should try some placebo |
| 20:53.57 | Lopeppeppy | I try some crying, it's worked pretty poorly so far. |
| 20:54.21 | Lunessa | You might mention that to him "Last time you said it wouldn't hurt much, but it was agony." |
| 20:54.24 | Seerah | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | meditation, etc. I don't LIKE pain meds, they make me sick. Just oh, say, the DAY of the freakin surgery would be nice. |
| 20:54.43 | |Jelly| | Peppy is a seeker! |
| 20:54.43 | Ackis | I had my toenails removed without 100% feeling gone (aka I could feel the cuts, rips, and tugs) |
| 20:54.47 | cogwheel | tylenol's alright as long as it's laced with codeine ;) |
| 20:55.02 | kd3 | mmm.... codeine |
| 20:55.24 | Lopeppeppy | I did, Lunessa. I'll go to my PA if it's pretty hideous. And Jelly, that's the problem. Once you have nerve damage, you can't just take tylenol... Rawr. I hate chronic pain. The longer it lasts, the less likely anyone cares. |
| 20:56.14 | Lunessa | Tylenol III - In liquid form. I drank it straight from the bottle after my tonsilectomy. |
| 20:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. *laugh* |
| 20:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | I cut my hyrdocodone in half so I get less woozy and sick. I threw out half of my last prescription because it expired, that's how little I like to take it. But sometimes, it's nice not to have to hurt. |
| 20:59.05 | Ackis | cogwheel: http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/funny-facebook-matthew-rockband.png?w=471&h=176 grats! |
| 20:59.08 | |Jelly| | Word of warning: Vicodin + Empty stomach + nap = MESSED UP dreams |
| 20:59.13 | |Jelly| | .. at least for me |
| 20:59.43 | Kraps | i have a friend who has an infant and a wife, when i met him in the summer had strep throat for over a week. when i asked him why he hadn't seen a doctor he says "meh they stuff you with drugs blah blah". it took all my self-control to not slap him |
| 20:59.55 | cogwheel | Ackis: lolwut? |
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| 21:00.09 | Ackis | cogwheel: grats on losing your virginity! |
| 21:00.22 | cogwheel | lies! |
| 21:00.30 | Ackis | !!!! |
| 21:01.10 | Lopeppeppy | Better living through chemicals, but only when they are necessary. Strep is contagious. |
| 21:01.27 | Ackis | i live through chemicals everyday Lopeppeppy |
| 21:01.34 | cogwheel | Kraps: lemme guess... their kids aren't vaccinated? |
| 21:01.34 | Ackis | it's how I can stand staying in this channel! |
| 21:01.34 | Ackis | :D |
| 21:01.52 | cogwheel | s/s are/ is/ |
| 21:02.23 | Kraps | i dont know tbh |
| 21:03.26 | Ackis | http://kotaku.com/5457448/record-of-agarest-wars-really-naughty-limited-edition-lives-up-to-its-name boobie shaped mousepads (maybe NSFW) |
| 21:03.30 | Ackis | is Fisker still banned? |
| 21:03.47 | Thunder_Child | you mean muted? |
| 21:04.00 | Ackis | same effect for Fisker |
| 21:04.50 | Thunder_Child | worse, we can ping him with crap, and he cant respond |
| 21:05.03 | cogwheel | who fisker? |
| 21:05.08 | Ackis | true |
| 21:05.08 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, say nothing if you think SC2 is crap, and you never want to play it. |
| 21:05.15 | Kraps | he cant msg anyone? |
| 21:05.21 | cogwheel | he can :P |
| 21:05.24 | Thunder_Child | he can |
| 21:05.27 | Ackis | wow Fisker thinks SC2 is crap? |
| 21:05.39 | Kraps | zomg hazing |
| 21:06.18 | Thunder_Child | i know Ackis, surpriseing |
| 21:06.18 | Thunder_Child | surprising* |
| 21:06.18 | Ackis | ~Shiibot++ |
| 21:06.18 | cogwheel | ~karma Shiibot |
| 21:06.18 | purl | shiibot has karma of -1 |
| 21:06.20 | Thunder_Child | though i wonder why no one has un-b'd him |
| 21:06.34 | Thunder_Child | ~Shiibot++ |
| 21:06.54 | Ackis | ~karma Shiibot |
| 21:06.54 | purl | shiibot has neutral karma |
| 21:06.54 | NeoTron | well... |
| 21:06.58 | Ackis | w00t |
| 21:07.03 | Ackis | ~karma Fisker |
| 21:07.03 | purl | fisker has karma of 5 |
| 21:07.07 | Kraps | ~karma Kraps |
| 21:07.07 | purl | kraps has karma of -1 |
| 21:07.08 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:07.13 | Thunder_Child | ~karma Fisker- |
| 21:07.13 | purl | fisker- has neutral karma |
| 21:07.14 | Kraps | :( |
| 21:07.17 | Ackis | Fisker: you like positive karma now? |
| 21:07.48 | Kraps | ~karma Kraps |
| 21:07.48 | purl | kraps has karma of -1 |
| 21:07.54 | Kraps | wat |
| 21:08.02 | Kraps | i didnt do it! |
| 21:09.09 | Ackis | ~Kraps++ |
| 21:09.11 | Ackis | happy? |
| 21:09.47 | Kraps | is non-commital |
| 21:10.35 | Kraps | but thank you |
| 21:10.36 | Ackis | you know why Fisker isn't talking? he's buying railworks DLC from steam. |
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| 21:11.15 | Kraps | theres 2 new ones every week, is it that good? |
| 21:11.39 | Ackis | he likes it that much |
| 21:12.22 | Kraps | lol |
| 21:12.44 | Ackis | Fisker: say something if what I said isn't true |
| 21:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm trying to decide if a nap is a wise idea or not. Hmm. |
| 21:13.18 | zenzelezz | you should give it a rest guys |
| 21:13.34 | zenzelezz | you know he'll be unmuted soon enough, and then he'll have to troll back for everything |
| 21:13.54 | Ackis | zenzelezz: hopefully he says the same troll 3x in a row |
| 21:14.13 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: lies |
| 21:16.31 | Kraps | non of you can unmute him? |
| 21:16.43 | Ackis | s/can/will/ ? |
| 21:17.13 | nevcairiel | in theory there are 6 people and 2 bots in there that can |
| 21:17.15 | nevcairiel | but want.. |
| 21:17.19 | Kraps | s/will/want to |
| 21:18.19 | Ackis | Fisker is a good sport, taking all this abuse and not saying a word |
| 21:18.22 | Ackis | oh... wait... |
| 21:18.52 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 21:25.08 | Ackis | interesting: http://www.benedelman.org/news/012610-1.html google toolbar still sending info after it's disabled |
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| 21:35.39 | Shirik | ? --> (16:34:07) (Thunder_Child) [15:00:51] i seem to see Shirik manually undo it |
| 21:35.50 | Ackis | Shirik: fisker is muted |
| 21:35.53 | Shirik | lolowned |
| 21:35.54 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: unmute people that Shiibot muted |
| 21:36.01 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 21:37.02 | Ackis | eh why is facebook recommending someone to be that I have no friends in common with |
| 21:37.04 | Shirik | yeah it's supposed to be temporary |
| 21:37.08 | Shirik | I haven't quite resolved that yet |
| 21:37.17 | Shirik | is he still banned? |
| 21:37.22 | Thunder_Child | we assume so |
| 21:37.29 | Thunder_Child | i havent seen an unmute |
| 21:37.56 | Shirik | ah I see it |
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| 21:39.24 | Thunder_Child | Fisker is prolly pouting |
| 21:40.40 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: maybe he offed himself? :( |
| 21:40.42 | Ackis | ~seen Fisker |
| 21:40.44 | purl | fisker is currently on #wowuidev (12h 30m 14s) #wowace (12h 30m 14s) #wowwiki (12h 30m 14s). Has said a total of 174 messages. Is idling for 58m 31s, last said: 'you leave me no choice Yssarilz'. |
| 21:41.30 | cbreak | famous last words |
| 21:43.22 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: dream on macbeth |
| 21:44.21 | Shirik | (16:34:19) (Fisker) [14:24:48] i hate your bot to hell |
| 21:44.41 | |Jelly| | lewl |
| 21:46.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:46.58 | Ackis | uhh apparently I just hit the facebook button for "add friends who are on msn" |
| 21:47.03 | Ackis | so sorry if you got that invite :P |
| 21:47.43 | Torhal | That's ok - Fisker hates you. |
| 21:48.02 | Ackis | but you love me |
| 21:48.05 | Ackis | so it's all good |
| 21:48.10 | Ackis | btw goodmorning sleeping beauty |
| 21:48.36 | smcn | moooorning it's morning |
| 21:48.49 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 21:49.43 | |Jelly| | [2. Trade] Seasecon: <Vendetta> is recruiting for ICC progression. Have all the goodies including gbank .. and cupcakes! For more information or to apply, go to http://vendettabl.wowstead.com/ -- It's amazing how often it's the cupcakes that gets people to message me. |
| 21:50.34 | Thunder_Child | i'm really curious to see what comes tomorrow |
| 21:53.45 | Lopeppeppy | Orange ice cream. |
| 21:54.26 | Thunder_Child | from apple i mean |
| 21:55.02 | Torhal | Ackis: It isn't morning. It's wakey-time. |
| 21:55.17 | cogwheel | ~ugt |
| 21:55.17 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 21:58.41 | Thunder_Child | ty cogwheel, i knew that was coming, so in my infinite wisdom i decided to create a counter to that |
| 21:59.01 | Thunder_Child | ~fgt |
| 21:59.02 | purl | Fail Greeting Time. This is when you use a time that does not coencide with the starter of the conversation, the loudest, most annoying channel user or in general, any idiot. |
| 21:59.04 | Ackis | Torhal: I'm talking about you somewhere to someone (full disclosure) |
| 21:59.39 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: coincide |
| 21:59.56 | Thunder_Child | hmm..word fails |
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| 22:00.17 | Thunder_Child | ty cogwheel |
| 22:07.41 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:07.48 | Fisker | prove me wrong Thunder_Child |
| 22:09.44 | Ackis | oh no |
| 22:09.45 | Ackis | it's |
| 22:09.47 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 22:11.58 | Fisker | prove me wrong Ackis |
| 22:12.14 | Thunder_Child | proves Fisker wrong |
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| 22:12.59 | Fisker | wasn't proved wrong by Thunder_Child |
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| 22:16.04 | Thunder_Child | knoes that Fisker can never admit to be proven wrong |
| 22:16.07 | Thunder_Child | knows* |
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| 22:18.31 | neconide | OMG |
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| 22:18.59 | neconide | kloeri |
| 22:19.00 | neconide | GTFO |
| 22:19.15 | neconide | i play wow, and im having a serious discussion here |
| 22:19.28 | kloeri_ | and? |
| 22:19.38 | zenzelezz | joining 10 seconds before him and saying only "OMG" does not constitute a serious discussion |
| 22:19.41 | kloeri_ | I'm not stopping you from having a serious discussion |
| 22:19.43 | neconide | stop following me around banning me from channels for trolling the shit out of innocent imbasils |
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| 22:20.09 | neconide | actually |
| 22:20.11 | neconide | keep following me |
| 22:20.16 | neconide | inc joining like 50 channels :D |
| 22:20.17 | Thunder_Child | fyi neconide, around here freenode staff > * |
| 22:20.35 | neconide | Thunder_Child, no you nub |
| 22:21.10 | Thunder_Child | we have a professional troll here, you will have to do far better than that |
| 22:21.20 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: only 1? |
| 22:21.30 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: only one that pro |
| 22:21.33 | Thunder_Child | thats* |
| 22:21.40 | Ackis | that's low man |
| 22:21.46 | zenzelezz | but true |
| 22:21.56 | Ackis | :( |
| 22:22.05 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: see, thats a test, i never said /who/ it was, you made your own judgment |
| 22:22.11 | Thunder_Child | and lost |
| 22:22.21 | Shirik | wtf... |
| 22:22.21 | Ackis | I have to be untrollful |
| 22:22.29 | Shirik | Finally got off the phone with atlassian fixed the problem |
| 22:22.41 | Shirik | apparently when mysql decides to bind to localhost, it doesn't actually bind to localhost |
| 22:22.45 | Shirik | who invented this technology |
| 22:23.15 | Lopeppeppy | did! |
| 22:23.36 | zenzelezz | PeppySQL |
| 22:24.45 | alestane | A sequel to Peppy might be more than I could handle. |
| 22:25.33 | zenzelezz | I suppose pronouncing "SQL" as "sequel" makes a slight bit of sense in English, but to me it still just sounds silly |
| 22:25.36 | alestane | You may have the sequel, zenzelezz, I'll stick with Classic Peppy (TM)., |
| 22:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, Classic Peppy (TMI) ! |
| 22:27.33 | zenzelezz | TMI? |
| 22:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | Too Much Information. :) |
| 22:28.13 | zenzelezz | I don't see what's TMI about Classic Peppy |
| 22:28.28 | Thunder_Child | then you have not been paying attention |
| 22:28.52 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:28.55 | Fisker | i troll u |
| 22:29.00 | zenzelezz | maybe I just have a higher threshold of for information sensitivity |
| 22:29.06 | Fisker | rabble rabble |
| 22:30.53 | Lopeppeppy | I reserve some things for private knowledge, that's true. |
| 22:31.35 | Ackis | I never keep anything for private knowledge |
| 22:31.43 | alestane | Even when we wish you would. |
| 22:31.52 | Ackis | exactly |
| 22:31.56 | Thunder_Child | no you dont Lopeppeppy |
| 22:31.57 | Ackis | I do it for effect.. MASS EFFECT |
| 22:31.58 | Ackis | hah! |
| 22:32.25 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Ackis |
| 22:32.25 | purl | turns Ackis into a lifesized tux doll |
| 22:32.36 | Ackis | and apparently kloeri_ > neconide |
| 22:33.05 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 22:33.57 | Ackis | alestane: I could be this open with you: http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/funny-facebook-andrew-poorsac.png?w=525&h=229 :P |
| 22:35.55 | zenzelezz | I find it incredibly hypocritical that all it takes for the "civilised" world to take note of a country in need is an earthquake that devastates things beyond recognition |
| 22:36.42 | zenzelezz | suddenly artists, actors, politicians find a cause to support |
| 22:36.55 | zenzelezz | and in six months everyone's forgotten about them again |
| 22:38.42 | Thunder_Child | i didnt think it would take that long |
| 22:38.51 | zenzelezz | sorry, you're right |
| 22:39.10 | Ackis | there was an earthquake? :P |
| 22:39.14 | Ackis | (sarcasm) |
| 22:39.26 | kd3 | wait, wait, 6 months? you're feeling generous |
| 22:39.42 | zenzelezz | I'm a part-time idealist |
| 22:40.28 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 22:40.30 | Shirik | you said I wouldn't |
| 22:40.33 | Shirik | but Shiibot did |
| 22:40.43 | zenzelezz | owned |
| 22:46.06 | Lunessa | hey zenzelezz: Haiti gets huge sums of money from the US every year. And every decade or so we end up having to go down there are help them with something major. I don't see how we're ignoring them at all. |
| 22:47.22 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: so the US is exempt from my statement, that leave most of the rest of the world |
| 22:48.01 | Lunessa | I'm just saying that you can't expect the rest of the world to carry a country forever. Those people have to do it themselves at some point. |
| 22:48.28 | kd3 | the hell woot? don't put what's inside the box on the outside of the box |
| 22:48.42 | TheDude22 | we send haiti aid every year, and the corrupt-as-hell government steals it all |
| 22:48.44 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: they might have if the French didn't steal most of their national budgets for years on end after they stopped wanting it |
| 22:48.47 | Nechckn | Not that anyone should be left out in the cold, but there were over 3000 NGOs working in Haiti prior to the quake... there will likely be even more, now. So, only time will tell if what is provided to them helps them to be self-sufficient or not. |
| 22:49.14 | Lunessa | Fuck the French. Those guys haven't gotten anything right in nearly 300 years. |
| 22:49.58 | zenzelezz | and I'm not claiming the Haitian rulers have had no impact on its misfortune; they have to take a lot of the blame too |
| 22:50.49 | Ackis | holds onto the irony comment until the US needs to be bailed out. |
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| 22:54.30 | Gnarfoz | simultaneous earthquakes in all "first world" countries |
| 22:54.50 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: they'd be too busy blaming their own governements then =P |
| 22:55.09 | Gnarfoz | or different natural disasters per country, whatev |
| 22:55.11 | Flowy | is there addon or something that allow me to save another interface settings for each character? |
| 22:55.37 | Gnarfoz | world population needs to go down :( |
| 23:02.34 | kd3 | flowy; your mods should give you that option |
| 23:03.14 | Ackis | Fisker: http://bit.ly/cavAQs |
| 23:03.19 | Ackis | Fisker: SC2 beta invites |
| 23:03.58 | WobWork | Ackis: a bitly link? Sounds dodgy =P |
| 23:04.21 | Ackis | link goes to http://starcraft.incgamers.com/blog/comments/starcraft-2-beta-rumbles-take-2/ :P |
| 23:05.48 | Nechckn | Bulldoze the shacks and put up swanky hotels like every other island nation, perhaps. Since they do not have the land/resources for much else. Either that or go into banking that has fewer regulations than most and boom instant success! |
| 23:06.05 | Fisker | it's old Ackis |
| 23:06.08 | Nechckn | Keeping only a small minority from benefitting is the real sticky wicket =) |
| 23:06.29 | Fisker | beta start is imminient |
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| 23:07.32 | Fisker | in the jace hall show on friday, they'll have a "Welcome to starcraft 2 beta" thing |
| 23:08.12 | Nechckn | The what show? |
| 23:08.27 | nicoli_s | i said the exact same thing Nechckn |
| 23:08.29 | Nechckn | What is a jace hall? |
| 23:09.40 | Fisker | you guys seriously suck if you don't know who he is or what his show is |
| 23:09.51 | Fisker | ~wiki Jace Hall |
| 23:10.04 | Fisker | MONOLITH |
| 23:10.10 | Fisker | You get that?! |
| 23:10.12 | Nechckn | lol, I even have an IGN account, and still have never heard of him |
| 23:10.14 | Fisker | MONOLITH |
| 23:10.46 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100126.html |
| 23:11.35 | nicoli_s | monolith? |
| 23:11.44 | Ackis | You must play and finish the Mass Effect Galaxy iPhone game and log into your EA account to upload the unlock <-- wtf? |
| 23:11.46 | Fisker | ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! |
| 23:12.28 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:12.39 | Gnarfoz | nichtlustig.de has a .com site in english, too? wtf |
| 23:12.55 | Fisker | No One Lives Forever, FEAR and Blood |
| 23:12.58 | Fisker | best gaems EVAR |
| 23:13.03 | Fisker | well not best gaems evar |
| 23:13.06 | Fisker | but pretty damn good |
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| 23:15.11 | Nechckn | Eh.. usually take the idea from trading houses. "Past performance is no indication of future expectations." Especially when it comes to games, so do not follow too many individuals. Companies only to a point, since they often shoot themselves in the foot. =) |
| 23:15.58 | Fisker | huh? |
| 23:16.12 | Shirik | wow.... |
| 23:16.21 | Shirik | Freenode just told me I can't join a channel because I'm already in too many channels |
| 23:16.29 | Adys | 20 channels max |
| 23:16.36 | Adys | you can ask for a mask to remove that tho |
| 23:16.46 | Fisker | Shirik doesn't learn how to read modes |
| 23:16.47 | Fisker | baww |
| 23:17.02 | Fisker | or flags or whatever they're called |
| 23:17.12 | Nechckn | Semaphore? |
| 23:17.26 | Adys | modes, flags, masks and prettyletters are all correct terms |
| 23:17.26 | Fisker | possibly? |
| 23:17.54 | Shirik | Nechckn said semaphore o.o |
| 23:17.56 | Adys | night |
| 23:18.04 | Adys | Shirik: good night my semaphore |
| 23:18.21 | Nechckn | No wai, Shirik |
| 23:18.44 | zenzelezz | we should ditch all these fancy alphanumeric flags and go with bit flags. /mode #wowuidev |= 0x00800000 |
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| 23:19.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:19.25 | Shirik | nobody stores flags like that anymore! It's inefficient |
| 23:19.29 | Nechckn | 32 bit, please... that would be too simplistic |
| 23:19.45 | Shirik | many compilers don't pack "bool" values until you explicitly request it |
| 23:19.49 | Shirik | stabs the people that go "memory is cheap!" |
| 23:20.01 | zenzelezz | it is cheap |
| 23:20.05 | zenzelezz | that doesn't mean you should waste it |
| 23:20.08 | Shirik | ^ |
| 23:20.19 | Thunder_Child | memory is cheap, waste it |
| 23:20.21 | Nechckn | A mind is a terrible thing to waste. |
| 23:20.22 | Fisker | memory is cheap and you should use it for memory leaks |
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| 23:20.54 | Nechckn | "This is your RAM, this is your RAM in a frying pan." |
| 23:21.10 | zenzelezz | memory is so cheap these days that I store all my data in heap tables |
| 23:21.18 | Torhal | Ackis: Foof? |
| 23:22.11 | Ackis | Torhal: there's a game on the iphone that gives you an unlock in ME2 |
| 23:23.03 | Torhal | Ackis: And this has what, exactly, to do with me? |
| 23:23.11 | Ackis | i dunno |
| 23:23.13 | Ackis | you were foofing me |
| 23:24.06 | Torhal | Ackis: Awhile back you said you were talking about me. |
| 23:24.17 | Ackis | oh |
| 23:24.18 | Ackis | yeah |
| 23:24.18 | Torhal | I was outside, dealing with snow-related mayhem |
| 23:24.21 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:24.34 | Flowy | for what is "class" bar in dominos? |
| 23:24.40 | Ackis | Torhal: check msn |
| 23:26.32 | cogwheel | Flowy: stances, auras, etc? |
| 23:26.54 | Flowy | ok thanks ... have dominos on priest |
| 23:27.06 | cogwheel | just a guess, btw |
| 23:27.25 | Lopeppeppy | cogwheel, I believe you're correct. |
| 23:31.37 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, what do I do until bedtime. *dies of sleepy* |
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| 23:31.49 | Jerub | oooh, anyone tried the new voa boss? is that out now? |
| 23:33.57 | Shirik | I must conquer the Lopeppeppy boss first |
| 23:35.35 | Torhal | Shirik: You have to get past her to get to the Cairenn boss, right? |
| 23:35.41 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:37.11 | Fisker | gg |
| 23:37.19 | Fisker | the str rings are *yaaaaaaawn* |
| 23:37.28 | Fisker | agi one is probably still better |
| 23:37.49 | Jerub | yeah, rings are a little meh at the moment |
| 23:38.07 | Jerub | I've got 245/259/264 rings and they're all within a few stat points of each other |
| 23:39.59 | Lopeppeppy | grins at Shirik. |
| 23:42.19 | Shirik | WASHINGTON -- After six years of unprecedented exploration of the Red Planet, NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit no longer will be a fully mobile robot. NASA has designated the once-roving scientific explorer a stationary science platform after efforts during the past several months to free it from a sand trap have been unsuccessful. |
| 23:42.49 | Jerub | "We got stuck" |
| 23:42.54 | cogwheel | IT'S A TRAP |
| 23:43.05 | Shirik | ~cogwheel++ |
| 23:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | Many bothans died. |
| 23:43.32 | Fisker | haha |
| 23:43.37 | Fisker | just put it in rawr |
| 23:43.41 | Fisker | around 20 dps lower than the agi ring |
| 23:43.51 | cogwheel | next thing you know some jawa's gonna pick it up and sell it to a moisture farmer |
| 23:43.53 | Fisker | l2putinastrprocinstead |
| 23:44.03 | Nechckn | Don't forget you have to get past Festirik before you get to Lunessa - but that is just like a gear check. |
| 23:44.44 | Shirik | ._. |
| 23:44.54 | cogwheel | Nechckn: i thought Failrik was in HoR |
| 23:45.09 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: or simply put more str on it instead |
| 23:45.38 | Nechckn | Don't forget the Dolbies that are in-between, too. |
| 23:45.39 | Jerub | so what do you think about having my buttons bound to autoproc my trinkets when they come off cooldown? I've usually got a +x dodge and a +4000hp trinket installed. |
| 23:45.43 | Gnarfoz | agi cloak > str cloak, agi ring > str ring, agi neck > str neck... the pattern repeats :\ |
| 23:45.59 | Nechckn | You know Blizz loves re-using the same guy over and over, cogwheel |
| 23:46.10 | Jerub | Fisker: for what class/spec? |
| 23:46.41 | Gnarfoz | ret |
| 23:46.45 | Nechckn | So they poured some slime on him and cut him open in a few spots.. boom insta Festirik. The fallen Failrik, if you will. |
| 23:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | Jerub, I always bound my trinkets with my healing spells so that I'd be using them whenever they were off cooldown. Otherwise I'd forget! |
| 23:47.17 | Jerub | Lopeppeppy: yeah, i've gotta figure out how to do that. |
| 23:47.34 | Jerub | but at the moment i don't have proccing trinkets in heal spec, except for one that i use for mana regen that gives +haste on proc... |
| 23:47.47 | Lunessa | Man, quake in fear before the might of the Dolby boss. |
| 23:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | I just wrote macros and put them into Clique. |
| 23:48.06 | Jerub | which.. uhh.. isn't useful, because I use my mp5 trinket when i'm having massive mana problems on long fights, and i don't need haste in those situations. |
| 23:48.35 | Jerub | speaking of which, I removed Glyph of Rapid Rejuv the other day. I think that was a large part of my mana issues. |
| 23:48.36 | Gnarfoz | situations |
| 23:48.45 | Gnarfoz | that's the word for: just l2p and use them when you need them. :p |
| 23:48.47 | Lopeppeppy | So swap your macros when you swap your trinkets. |
| 23:49.37 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: the thing is, i'm not sure they're actually useful for anything more than occsaional extra damage mitigation. |
| 23:49.54 | Jerub | I hit my bear oh-shits when icehowl hits someone and that works fine, because that's a serious amount of reduction. |
| 23:50.23 | Jerub | i mean, i could have them on buttons and use them situationally. but "every 2 minutes" is just as good i think. |
| 23:50.29 | Nechckn | Lunessa you know the Dolbies, one black, one white. How to kill, no one knows! |
| 23:50.33 | Jerub | just asking for opinions. |
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| 23:50.44 | Gnarfoz | festergut (or.. festirik :P) at 3 inhales |
| 23:50.58 | Gnarfoz | putricide p3 |
| 23:51.01 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 23:51.04 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, that's sort of awesome. putting mana regen and haste into the same trinket. |
| 23:51.09 | ZorbaTHut | it's like, now you've got extra mana! |
| 23:51.12 | ZorbaTHut | And now you've used it! |
| 23:51.14 | ZorbaTHut | gg hf |
| 23:51.27 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: that's ancient pickled egg.. |
| 23:51.40 | Jerub | it was a brewfest trinket i picked up |
| 23:51.44 | Lunessa | Nechckn: I think that fight is phased. If you've completed "Get Dolbies Drunk Off Their Asses" you can skip the battle completely. |
| 23:51.58 | Shirik | wtf did I start... |
| 23:52.33 | Jerub | wait, no. |
| 23:52.51 | Jerub | ancient pickled egg autoprocs and gives you haste. |
| 23:52.59 | Jerub | it's this misdesigned piece of crap: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50260 |
| 23:53.25 | Nechckn | Lunessa And just tossing dark iron ale at his feet does not cut it! |
| 23:53.37 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: the thing that was killing my mana was trying to keep rejuv up on the raid when my haste + glyph of rapid rejuv caused it to finish ticking in 10 seconds instead of 15. |
| 23:54.05 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: I think it was at least. I clicked off that glyph, and got the bear to innervate me between 3rd and 4th wave of adds, and we were golden. |
| 23:54.27 | Jerub | but i think my raidleader was pissed about us wiping because the tree ran out of mana on every attempt. |
| 23:54.42 | Jerub | (is it normal for the tree to do 2x more healing than the priest? i dunno...) |
| 23:54.54 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 23:55.09 | Nechckn | To STO or not to STO? That is the question. |
| 23:55.38 | Thunder_Child | depnds what you like Nechckn. i think they have the sapce down pat, but the ground needs work |
| 23:55.45 | Nechckn | ~$200US for "lifetime" is not really a bad deal. |
| 23:55.46 | purl | Nechckn: okay |
| 23:55.58 | Thunder_Child | fail Nechckn |
| 23:55.59 | Nechckn | woops.. sorry purl. |
| 23:56.10 | Thunder_Child | ~forget $200US fo "lifetime" |
| 23:56.10 | purl | Thunder_Child: i didn't have anything called '$200us fo "lifetime"' to forget |
| 23:56.16 | Thunder_Child | ~forget $200US for "lifetime" |
| 23:56.16 | purl | Thunder_Child: i forgot $200us for "lifetime" |
| 23:57.24 | Nechckn | I was doing a lot of shop combat last night.. that is some tasty fun. |
| 23:57.44 | Nechckn | Agree about the ground, that is so tabula rasa, at least as it is now. |
| 23:58.10 | Nechckn | Which is to say not engaging/interesting. ;-) |
| 23:58.48 | Thunder_Child | i cant stand using any weapon but the 250 firing arc weaps |
| 23:58.55 | Thunder_Child | or wahtever it is |
| 23:59.27 | Nechckn | Yeah, otherwise it is hard to keep up the damage, even if what you are using has "good dps". |
