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| 00:20.36 | mikma | hailol, i has a gnome called Cogfizzle in my group. cog|away is it you? ;D |
| 00:22.35 | Corrodias | GNOOOOOOOOOOOOME |
| 00:22.43 | haste | KDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 00:23.11 | zenzelezz | xfce |
| 00:23.24 | zenzelezz | the lack of caps and repetition is because it's not a hog like yours |
| 00:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | kde |
| 00:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | wins |
| 00:26.21 | Adys | kde apps win |
| 00:26.23 | Adys | kde sucks ass |
| 00:26.31 | Adys | Signed, KDE user |
| 00:26.46 | Adys | sorry, not kde |
| 00:26.46 | Adys | K Plasma Environment. |
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| 00:27.05 | haste | doesn't use KDE. |
| 00:27.24 | intangir | hehe does everyone in here use linux? |
| 00:27.51 | ScytheBlade1 | No, but a fair number of people do |
| 00:28.26 | intangir | cool i use ubuntu/gnome |
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| 00:28.32 | intangir | wow i just got strand for daily 3rd day in a row |
| 00:28.34 | zenzelezz | one does not simply use linux... in Mordor |
| 00:28.39 | intangir | it took me 2 days and over 20 tries to win it yesterday |
| 00:28.42 | intangir | couldnt win it the day before.. |
| 00:28.45 | intangir | now i got it.. AGAIN |
| 00:30.32 | Ginji | pvp .... fail |
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| 01:17.54 | tem | is there a way to open the bigwigs proxmity display manually? |
| 01:18.17 | tem | trying to get positions for Saurfang is annoying when it doesn't even open until you engage |
| 01:20.53 | mikma | it's simple |
| 01:21.14 | mikma | keep saurfang at the stairs, tanks having their backs towards the door |
| 01:21.47 | mikma | everyone else stays in half of circle keeping max distance to boss (except healers keeping max distance to tanks) |
| 01:21.52 | mikma | then just CC the beasts ^^ |
| 01:22.35 | mikma | typhoon, thunderstorm, roots, chains of ice |
| 01:23.27 | mikma | oh, and before the beasts spawn, stop all AoE ^^ |
| 01:24.39 | zenzelezz | such talk of positioning reminds me of C'thun, Leotheras and Bloodboil |
| 01:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | Bloodboil. Yar. |
| 01:34.25 | Funkeh` | tem, /proximity |
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| 01:48.27 | Recessions | Hey guys - whats up? |
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| 02:18.34 | Adys | What's more annoying, climate change denial or IPv4 exhaustion denial |
| 02:18.52 | mikma | your face |
| 02:19.00 | Adys | Wait, i know, bullet-to-head denial |
| 02:19.32 | Adys | "At the current speed and trajectory of the bullet that's just been shot, it's going to reach your brain in less than 0.017 milliseconds, you better move fast" |
| 02:19.35 | Adys | "Whatever." |
| 02:19.51 | WobWork | that's not denial |
| 02:19.52 | Lopeppeppy | House is more annoying than either. |
| 02:19.55 | WobWork | that's apathy |
| 02:20.00 | Jerub | meh, we have plenty of ipv4 addresses. |
| 02:20.10 | Adys | "Whatever. Heard that before, bullet missed." |
| 02:20.13 | Jerub | ;) |
| 02:20.23 | Adys | better WobWork ? :P |
| 02:20.23 | Jerub | actually, we're slowly running out and will be out of them by 2015 or so. |
| 02:20.26 | WobWork | nope =P |
| 02:20.32 | Jerub | but then isps will just allocate ipv4 private ranges to clients. |
| 02:20.34 | WobWork | "No I won't" is denial |
| 02:20.39 | ScytheBlade1 | earlier than 2015 |
| 02:20.56 | Adys | 2012! 2012! |
| 02:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | We ate through 203 million addresses in 09 |
| 02:21.45 | WobWork | om nomomnom |
| 02:21.47 | Adys | odds are it will keep increasing |
| 02:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | drastically |
| 02:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | pats his IPv6 everywhere |
| 02:22.13 | Adys | which is funny |
| 02:22.23 | Adys | "We're running out of IPv4, what do I do?" |
| 02:22.41 | Adys | "Buy a bunch more of them, so you can be sure you'll have some to spare when cataclysm hits." |
| 02:22.52 | ScytheBlade1 | morons |
| 02:23.26 | Adys | i cant really blame people, its not like we wouldnt have run out some day |
| 02:23.57 | Adys | even with excessive precautions, by 2030-2035 I'm guessing everything would have been out |
| 02:24.05 | ScytheBlade1 | the final "push" will be insanity |
| 02:24.33 | Adys | Nah |
| 02:24.58 | Adys | The one thing that's going to be tough to deal with will be software not compatible with ipv6 |
| 02:25.05 | ScytheBlade1 | most all software is |
| 02:25.08 | ScytheBlade1 | In the OSS world anyway |
| 02:25.09 | Adys | and how many of you got this kind of software and use it every day? |
| 02:25.15 | Adys | yeah precisely |
| 02:25.31 | Adys | then its a bunch of administration issues with isps and big companies |
| 02:25.32 | ScytheBlade1 | There is one thing depending on IPv4 right now for me, and that'd be mysql |
| 02:25.39 | Adys | john smith won't see anything happen |
| 02:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That is the _only_ app I have, of many, which still depends on v4 |
| 02:25.52 | Adys | mysqlol |
| 02:26.22 | Adys | i bet they're like "We got 4 years left!" |
| 02:26.35 | ScytheBlade1 | They are not making me happy |
| 02:26.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I have v6 DNS records for everything, and I just use them by habit now |
| 02:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Open up a client, type in the hostname |
| 02:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Epic fail |
| 02:27.15 | ScytheBlade1 | "host does not exist? what?" |
| 02:28.02 | Adys | meh |
| 02:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I can even have a full IPv6 web with the latest squid |
| 02:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | which will perform as an IPv6<-->IPv4 proxy |
| 02:28.43 | Adys | i guess there'll be a bunch of people who never upgrade their shit |
| 02:28.56 | Adys | who one day will be like |
| 02:29.05 | Adys | "WHY CANT I ACCESS MY PORN ANYMORE" on the phone line |
| 02:29.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 02:29.47 | Adys | when theres a bunch of money to lose, companies are willing to push for stuff to happen |
| 02:29.51 | Adys | and thats the only thing we need |
| 02:30.02 | Duman | porn is major $$ |
| 02:30.12 | ScytheBlade1 | supposedly mysql6 has ipv6 support |
| 02:30.13 | ScytheBlade1 | (har) |
| 02:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | but we'll see |
| 02:30.19 | Duman | heh |
| 02:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 02:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | "MySQL 6.0 was not developed beyond Alpha status and new releases have not been made for some time, so the manual has been withdrawn as well. |
| 02:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 02:34.05 | ScytheBlade1 | almost enough to make me switch to postgresql, but then nothing would work period! |
| 02:38.08 | bleeter | WobWork: http://www.banthisgame.com/ |
| 02:38.17 | Duman | I wonder if Oracle had any influence on that... |
| 02:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Considering how recent that is, I doubt it |
| 02:38.37 | Duman | (probably not... killing off mysql would be the worst thing oracle could do, anyway) |
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| 02:39.35 | bleeter | probably more to do with the number of forks kicking around and lack of agreement on path forward |
| 02:39.35 | bleeter | at a guess |
| 02:39.35 | Duman | no doubt |
| 02:45.43 | Cide | rofl |
| 02:45.56 | Cide | postgresql is massively better than mysql |
| 02:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | which makes it better supported and more used... how? |
| 02:50.03 | bleeter | isn't postgresql support done by the same company who do mysql and oracle support these days? |
| 02:50.33 | bleeter | (in a manner of speaking;) |
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| 02:53.19 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: afaik many of the 'large' installs of mysql hired coders to add stuff in that postgresql already had, goes back to legacy situations and whether it's cheaper to convert or hire contractors to hack |
| 02:53.51 | ScytheBlade1 | such as? |
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| 02:55.50 | Adys | heh shadowmourne is linkable on my serv |
| 02:56.45 | Cide | I don't care if it's more used or better supported |
| 02:56.50 | Cide | the fact that it's better is good enough for me |
| 02:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, seeing as all I do is install stuff that uses it, isntead of develop for it |
| 02:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It kinda matters |
| 02:57.20 | Cide | I can see that |
| 02:57.23 | Cide | but it doesn't make it any better |
| 02:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 02:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | But all I'm saying, is that everything seems to support mysql, and in comparison, very little supports postgresql |
| 02:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | shrugs |
| 02:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Get it more supported and sure! |
| 02:58.24 | Cide | hey, I'm the first to jump on the "people are stupid"-train |
| 02:58.31 | bleeter | let's see, in 2004 views, stored procedures and cursors were still beta. no inheritance, sequences, triggers. |
| 02:58.39 | bleeter | *still in beta on MySQL |
| 02:59.06 | ScytheBlade1 | there is one thing I wish MySQL had, and that would be user defined datatypes |
| 02:59.07 | bleeter | iirc |
| 02:59.13 | bleeter | oh and that too |
| 02:59.15 | bleeter | hehe |
| 02:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly so I could define a 'UUID' type for what little I DO develop with/for :/ |
| 03:01.58 | cbreak | it doesn't have blobs? |
| 03:02.01 | bleeter | here's an interesting table from 2004 http://is.gd/5LjRF |
| 03:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | blobs aren't user defined datatypes |
| 03:02.44 | cbreak | it's like a void * to a memory location |
| 03:02.51 | cbreak | you can put any struct in you want :D |
| 03:03.01 | cbreak | (if it fits) |
| 03:03.11 | ScytheBlade1 | does not work that way with databases |
| 03:03.24 | cbreak | lame. |
| 03:04.16 | Iriel | It depends how you use them 8-) |
| 03:04.24 | bleeter | so yeah, MySQL came on a lot of linux systems, was 'easier' out of the box 'coz it had less complicated stuff. developers used it. |
| 03:04.29 | Iriel | It works just fine that way if they're simply values in a persistence layer |
| 03:04.41 | Iriel | But if you plan on making them do any heavy lifting, then yeah, blobs are pretty worthless |
| 03:04.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It doesn't work well when it comes to indexes though |
| 03:04.54 | bleeter | then their sites hit critical and they needed heavy iron stuff and had to hire instead of port. standard issues of having to deal with legacy |
| 03:04.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Hard to do SELECTS on blobs at a decent rate :) |
| 03:05.56 | ScytheBlade1 | mysql also has multi-master replication now, though it is more of a hack than it is full support |
| 03:06.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It is also stupid hard to configure and involves mandatory host downtime to setup a new slave |
| 03:06.19 | ScytheBlade1 | (or master) |
| 03:07.08 | bleeter | you think of those big sites, I'd almost guarnatee they have their own hackish multi-master reps |
| 03:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | a lot of people use the stock mysql replication |
| 03:08.33 | bleeter | then we end up with the situation of FB yelling at MySQL yelling at Intel yelling at FB ;) |
| 03:09.36 | ScytheBlade1 | more FB than intel, lol |
| 03:10.21 | Jerub | i used to do big stuff with mysql, was good for some stuff |
| 03:10.34 | Jerub | fortunately, it was low-user-count large-dataset stuff |
| 03:10.42 | cbreak | who needs databases if he has... lots of RAM! |
| 03:10.52 | Jerub | cbreak: someone who reboots |
| 03:10.56 | Iriel | cbreak: anyone whose power goes out |
| 03:11.00 | cbreak | *shiver* |
| 03:11.16 | cbreak | goes get the silver bullets and holly water |
| 03:11.55 | Jerub | spinning rust or dancing lightning, take your pick :) |
| 03:13.33 | kdtresh | thought holly water was no good after christmas |
| 03:13.34 | cbreak | sooner or later a new tech will be invented |
| 03:13.47 | kd3 | brr |
| 03:13.52 | cbreak | maybe similar to EEPROMs |
| 03:14.33 | kd3 | curses his luck |
| 03:17.40 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:18.00 | kd3 | but yay for finally getting newegg goodies tomorrow |
| 03:18.03 | Duman | 'sup kd3 |
| 03:18.06 | Duman | woo newegg |
| 03:18.08 | kd3 | assuming ups actually gets it out the door |
| 03:18.09 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: like? |
| 03:18.30 | kd3 | new vid card and a dvi->hdmi cable so I can hook up to my new tv |
| 03:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 03:18.36 | kd3 | nommuch duman, you? |
| 03:18.38 | Duman | word |
| 03:18.53 | Duman | nada... back to work tomorrow, heh |
| 03:19.04 | kd3 | you at your new gig? |
| 03:19.08 | Duman | yep yep |
| 03:19.11 | kd3 | nice |
| 03:23.41 | cbreak | does that even technically work? DVI is unencrypted and HDMI is heavily drmed |
| 03:24.08 | kd3 | the video signal itself is the same, electricly. what happens on top of that is different |
| 03:24.20 | ScytheBlade1 | DVI can be encrypted with HDCP just like HDMI |
| 03:24.27 | kd3 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Depa=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=dvi%20to%20hdmi%20cable&IsRelated=1&cm_sp=KeywordRelated-_-dvi_to_hdmi-_-dvi%20to%20hdmi%20cable |
| 03:24.37 | Duman | btw, I end up using monoprice.com for all my cable needs these days |
| 03:28.38 | bleeter | http://bako.ca/streetview-riding/ |
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| 03:35.54 | Jerub | sigh. |
| 03:36.02 | Jerub | is there an easy way to open a url from wow in a web browser? |
| 03:36.55 | Adys | kd3: http://urls.en.www.longurls.com/URLs/urls/URLLIST.html.aspx?url=http://urls.en.www.longurls.com/URLs/urls/URLLIST.html.aspx&method=URL&unreadableBullshit=http%3A%2F%2Furls.en.www.longurls.com%2FURLs%2Furls%2FURLLIST.html.aspx |
| 03:36.56 | kd3 | no |
| 03:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Jerub: no |
| 03:37.17 | kd3 | pop open an edit box, tell the user to hit ctrl+c and alt-tab out, open up their web browser and ctrl+v |
| 03:37.30 | Jerub | can't stuff something into the clipboard either? |
| 03:37.51 | ScytheBlade1 | wat is crtl pls c :/ |
| 03:37.53 | Adys | also, isnt there? the wow client uses some url opening shit on the main screen |
| 03:37.56 | TC-mobile | I wonder If an overlay could pull it nicely |
| 03:37.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Jerub: not automatically |
| 03:38.00 | foxlit | WoW is very sensitive about not letting you go anywhere near viable I/O with the outside world. |
| 03:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: protected code path |
| 03:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | s/protected/secure/ |
| 03:38.23 | Jerub | stupid blizzard |
| 03:38.25 | kd3 | that's only in the gluexml. afaik the methods don't make it to in-game |
| 03:38.28 | foxlit | I'm not sure that's the right objection, SB |
| 03:38.42 | foxlit | They killed the open browser API some time in 1.x, iirc. |
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| 03:39.10 | kd3 | when'd they close the gm help loophole? |
| 03:39.22 | foxlit | not aware of that one. |
| 03:39.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think it is 100% closed |
| 03:39.27 | ScytheBlade1 | But mostly closed |
| 03:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It requires changing files outside of WoW to utilize |
| 03:40.05 | Adys | foxlit: you could get email addresses from other players with some GM interface tweaks |
| 03:40.41 | kd3 | s/gm help/knowledge base/ |
| 03:41.00 | foxlit | LaunchURL was removed in march '06 |
| 03:41.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: really? *that* is new to me |
| 03:41.25 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: its pretty old, back from when the feedback ui was implemented |
| 03:41.32 | Adys | but i think kd3 is about a different bug :P |
| 03:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably |
| 03:41.41 | kd3 | yar |
| 03:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | There is a much more recent one where the in-game knowledgebase could be used to browse arbitrary URLs |
| 03:42.01 | kd3 | that ^ |
| 03:42.51 | Adys | i dont see the big deal |
| 03:43.04 | Adys | with some smart packet sniffing you can always get data out of wow |
| 03:43.10 | Adys | its just a lot harder to get it in |
| 03:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, browsing means external request means live data exchange from the in-game API |
| 03:43.52 | Adys | actually i think theres still a couple of ways to get data in wow |
| 03:44.06 | Antiarc | You can modulate the system time! :V |
| 03:44.13 | Adys | yeah :P |
| 03:44.17 | Antiarc | I don't know how many here are aware of that fiasco |
| 03:44.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, what? |
| 03:44.25 | ScytheBlade1 | *what*? |
| 03:44.33 | Adys | GetSystemTime() to get data in wow |
| 03:44.34 | Antiarc | There's a company called imVOX that does some Vent replacement |
| 03:44.46 | Antiarc | They were modulating your system data and reading it onupdate to get data into WoW |
| 03:44.52 | Antiarc | So you could see who was talking in your party UI |
| 03:45.00 | Antiarc | system date* |
| 03:45.05 | kd3 | ack |
| 03:45.31 | Adys | its not just that |
| 03:45.42 | Adys | its an effective anti-afk |
| 03:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:46.03 | ScytheBlade1 | that's pretty tricky |
| 03:46.09 | Antiarc | We found that one thing that WoW reads, that isn't blocked off is the Time/Date in Windows (unsure if this would port well to our upcoming Mac client). Almost all UI mods use the Time/Date to space out things. We didn't want to screw up other UI Addons however, so we don't touch the time. |
| 03:46.09 | Antiarc | We are modulating the date however, very quickly, and encoding the ID of which user is currently talking, then the UI Addon decodes it. This only yields about 60 bytes/sec, but that's more than enough to simply tell what user is talking. Data is only going into the client, not out of it. We're using standard keybindings methods for your push to talk and don't intercept keys that you don't bind. |
| 03:46.59 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 03:47.06 | cbreak | that would screw up my addon |
| 03:47.08 | Adys | its a pretty old trick |
| 03:47.09 | cbreak | one of them |
| 03:47.10 | kd3 | talk about screwing up the rest of windows just to get 'who's talking' in wow |
| 03:47.15 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 03:47.18 | Antiarc | They got ripped into for it |
| 03:47.27 | Adys | cant blame them |
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| 03:53.38 | Shadowed | wait Antiarc, were? |
| 03:53.47 | Shadowed | I though they said they weren't going to do that after everyone called them retarded on EJ |
| 03:53.52 | Shadowed | and it never went live |
| 03:54.00 | Antiarc | I dunno |
| 03:55.23 | Adys | Shadowed: why did people call them retarded? |
| 03:55.23 | Shadowed | imVOX people aren't very smart in general though |
| 03:55.45 | Shadowed | Because they were modifying the date to get data into the game? |
| 03:56.01 | Adys | sorry I dont see it |
| 03:56.01 | Shadowed | s/were modifying/wanted to modify/ |
| 03:56.08 | Adys | i mean |
| 03:56.24 | Adys | they were just going to get a loophole fixed and their app wouldnt work 2 weeks later |
| 03:56.26 | Adys | thats all |
| 03:56.35 | Shadowed | I'm not sure how you don't see why that's retarded :p |
| 03:56.39 | cbreak | people on EJ seem to think everyone is retarded |
| 03:56.42 | Adys | ^ |
| 03:56.46 | cbreak | and they like telling anyone about it |
| 03:57.05 | Shadowed | and I'm quite sure that counts as against the ToS |
| 03:57.26 | Adys | not really |
| 03:57.39 | Shadowed | but either way, modifying date to get data into the game? If you think that's sane and fine... you're nuts |
| 03:57.48 | Shadowed | anyway afk |
| 03:57.54 | Adys | i think its fine because it wont last |
| 03:58.05 | Adys | or blizzard would have to go through too many layers of lawyers to get them in court |
| 03:58.31 | Adys | the wow part was fully legal |
| 03:58.43 | Adys | and the third-party was.. not doing much really |
| 03:59.10 | Shadowed | That's not exactly a very good reason for it to not be a retarded thing to do :p |
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| 03:59.29 | Adys | ps, if you want random exploits and loopholes in any app, always try modifying the system time |
| 03:59.39 | Adys | devs are either "Meh dont wanna fix it" or "who's gonna do it anyway" |
| 04:00.50 | Antiarc | I used to modify my system time to get around shareware expire limits :V |
| 04:01.14 | Adys | yeah |
| 04:02.07 | Jerub | LD_PRELOAD hacks? |
| 04:02.08 | Jerub | :P |
| 04:02.09 | cbreak | why not changing their settings file to expire some dozen years into the future? :) |
| 04:02.36 | kd3 | I loved doing that |
| 04:03.35 | Jerub | some software had safety checks. |
| 04:03.47 | Jerub | you know, writing the date into a field in the binary and stuff |
| 04:08.56 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/140797/ |
| 04:09.01 | Adys | Locale updating :D |
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| 04:49.07 | Antiarc | http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49 |
| 05:13.56 | Shirik | ok this AT&T vs Verizon thing is getting really.... |
| 05:14.01 | Shirik | well, it's almost like the presidential election |
| 05:14.04 | Shirik | very dirty |
| 05:14.22 | Adys | dirties up Shirik |
| 05:15.04 | Adys | shishishishi |
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| 05:21.04 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 05:21.05 | purl | ~pong |
| 05:22.32 | Adys | Dumb question Shirik |
| 05:22.36 | Adys | but when you update wow |
| 05:22.47 | Adys | does the patchnote show automatically, or do you only get the dropdown |
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| 05:27.03 | DJJeff | http://pastebin.ca/1737104 |
| 05:29.41 | kd3 | zomg |
| 05:29.56 | kd3 | 2010... gnome finally handles different wallpapers on different monitors? |
| 05:30.06 | Adys | "no" |
| 05:30.29 | Adys | they announced they would like what? 3 times now? with 3 different patchsets? |
| 05:30.29 | kd3 | 2.28.2: "These updates bring in the latest stable upstream releases of gnome-desktop and nautilus, and contain various other improvements, in particular for the handling of desktop backgrounds on multiple monitors." |
| 05:30.36 | kd3 | lol |
| 05:31.19 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/684/ |
| 05:31.23 | Adys | ~xkcd++ |
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| 05:44.27 | intangir | hehehe |
| 05:44.53 | intangir | hes certainly got a point with this at&t vs verison |
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| 06:10.25 | DWSR | hey all |
| 06:10.43 | DWSR | Is there a way to get programs to recognize the Razer Naga's keypad as mouse buttons as opposed to numpad keys? |
| 06:11.23 | kd3 | so... no. I guess not |
| 06:11.41 | kd3 | sighs at bz147808 |
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| 06:14.50 | DJJeff | http://pastebin.ca/1737104 |
| 06:14.55 | DJJeff | anything serious? |
| 06:15.10 | DJJeff | happend when I opened my questlog |
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| 06:40.18 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: no, that's not a wow things, its a naga driver thing |
| 06:41.06 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Hence why I said programs. :P |
| 06:41.26 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 06:41.29 | jnwhiteh | sadly still no =/ |
| 06:41.39 | jnwhiteh | tho clique2 makes it not necessary |
| 06:41.39 | jnwhiteh | heh |
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| 06:51.53 | DJJeff | is it possible to adjust the volume of ADDONS? |
| 06:52.15 | Adys | by turning caps off? :P |
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| 06:52.31 | DJJeff | SMWoWarcraft makes a coin sound when REP is gained.... in Alterac Valley |
| 06:52.42 | DJJeff | when I D/C and reconnect Questhelper loads up |
| 06:52.52 | DJJeff | and my coin sounds get extremely loud |
| 06:53.12 | DJJeff | my house mates are yelling at me |
| 06:53.22 | DJJeff | and Adys are you trying to be funny? |
| 06:53.43 | Adys | no, I'm trying to be an ass |
| 06:54.59 | DJJeff | why thank you sir |
| 06:55.00 | DJJeff | lol |
| 06:55.16 | DJJeff | you gain faster XP in the Battlegrounds I wish people would use it more |
| 06:55.20 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 06:55.25 | DJJeff | it is multi server too |
| 06:55.28 | DJJeff | no excuse |
| 06:55.54 | Jerub | DJJeff: I used AV for levelling between 70 and 80 |
| 06:56.03 | DJJeff | ya im finally 78 |
| 06:56.07 | Jerub | but at lower levels it was dominated by people who actually PVP in their realm, and I'm on a PvE server. |
| 06:56.10 | DJJeff | just dinged 5 min ago |
| 06:56.27 | DJJeff | im on a lame RPG server |
| 06:56.33 | DJJeff | Role Play |
| 06:56.36 | Jerub | really? what's that like? |
| 06:56.43 | DJJeff | same as PvE |
| 06:56.45 | DJJeff | probley |
| 06:56.53 | DJJeff | but designed for guilds |
| 06:57.04 | Jerub | i have a guild.. always have |
| 06:59.44 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaay deadly boss mods updated :) |
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| 07:28.11 | DWSR | So, new content Tuesday? |
| 07:28.17 | DWSR | and by ?, I mean . |
| 07:28.52 | Bruners | DWSR: new content as in opening new bosses? |
| 07:29.01 | DWSR | yes |
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| 07:32.58 | Ancu | I hope to be high enough to take down Arthus before cata |
| 07:46.58 | olafski | djjeff: considering they nerfed the BG xp considerably, and the fact that you can now find a group for a dungeon while questing (don't even have to fly to dungeons anymore), I'd say doing dungeons and questing is faster than BGs |
| 07:47.08 | olafski | I did level my palain and mage in AV though, it went fast before the nerfs |
| 07:48.43 | Jerub | olafski: the only problem with being int he find-dungeon while questing is if you're a tank.... |
| 07:48.47 | Jerub | ;) |
| 07:48.52 | Bruners | olafski: didnt they buff battleground experience gain back to what it was? |
| 07:49.05 | DWSR | no |
| 07:49.11 | Jerub | how long do you think downtime will be tomorrow night? |
| 07:49.20 | Jerub | a friend is hoping to celebrate her birthday in the UC courtyard |
| 07:49.50 | bleeter | over 9000 |
| 07:53.41 | olafski | jerub: how is that a problem? dungeon xp beats quest xp for me, so I don't mind the instant queue times ;p |
| 07:56.06 | olafski | and I actually had fun in gnomeregan ;) |
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| 08:02.25 | DWSR | wtf. |
| 08:02.27 | DWSR | You're whacked. |
| 08:03.00 | olafski | well, considering I hadn't been there on a <80 char since a month before wow released.. it was nice, we didn't wipe once |
| 08:03.25 | DWSR | It's an awful dungeon. |
| 08:03.33 | DWSR | Though, the 5% stats bonus probably would have made a world of difference. |
| 08:04.03 | Bruners | what's so awful with it ? |
| 08:04.11 | olafski | that, and heirlooms.. and people having an idea about their class rather than just playing semi randomly... it was in beta after all |
| 08:04.31 | DWSR | Bruners: It's just long and boring. If people don't know the dungeon and where to go, it gets even worse. |
| 08:04.46 | DWSR | I've had awful experiences with it even in TBC, haven't gone back to it. |
| 08:04.58 | olafski | took us maybe 45 minutes |
| 08:05.05 | olafski | every low level dungeon I've done so far we've chainpulled most of it |
| 08:05.12 | DWSR | Yeah, I remember when that shit took like 2 hours |
| 08:05.16 | olafski | gnomeregan used to be hell with adds though |
| 08:05.20 | DWSR | Yeah |
| 08:05.21 | olafski | and indeed it took 2 hours |
| 08:05.22 | DWSR | Esp. the last part. |
| 08:05.26 | olafski | almost as bad as BRD :) |
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| 08:05.31 | DWSR | Fuck BRD. |
| 08:05.36 | DWSR | I spent 4 hours on a full clear once. |
| 08:05.47 | olafski | I've been to the emperor exactly once |
| 08:05.57 | olafski | nobody wanted to do that room with the torches |
| 08:05.58 | DWSR | I've done it 6 times maybe. |
| 08:06.02 | DWSR | lol |
| 08:06.05 | TheDude22 | heh friend just ran BRD, full clear, with level-appropriate group. got 1.8 levels |
| 08:06.06 | DWSR | that rooms amazingly....hard. |
| 08:06.25 | Jerub | I got nearly 2 levels in SM:GY |
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| 08:14.59 | olafski | same jerub :) |
| 08:15.07 | olafski | depending on rested state I get 1-2 levels per dungeon |
| 08:19.48 | Jerub | now i'm playing my mage in the 60+ level range, i'm finding it's 1/4 level per dungeon, even with rested |
| 08:19.54 | Jerub | too many dungeons with only 2-3 bosses. |
| 08:20.20 | Jerub | also, the XP bonuses for doing a random are a joke. XP benefit is outweighed by taking a few moments to mop up 2 more elites. |
| 08:20.46 | olafski | +) |
| 08:20.48 | olafski | money and items though |
| 08:21.02 | olafski | I didn't even notice there was an xp bonus |
| 08:22.18 | Jerub | there's no money for low level dungeons is there? |
| 08:22.20 | Jerub | I didn't think there was. |
| 08:22.26 | olafski | there is money I think |
| 08:22.31 | olafski | and you get a random blue item |
| 08:22.37 | Jerub | I just get the same 3 items over and over again and 1600 xp at level 66 |
| 08:22.42 | Jerub | I've got 3 of the same neck now. |
| 08:22.49 | Jerub | and two shoulders that swap 1 stat |
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| 08:24.10 | olafski | yes, you get the same item with "random" stats |
| 08:24.16 | olafski | usable stats for your class, but not necessarily your spec |
| 08:24.37 | olafski | at lvl 31, I get a random blue item, 70 silver and 470 xp |
| 08:24.46 | olafski | while needing 41600xp to ding |
| 08:25.24 | zenzio | "At Current Rates, Only a Few More Years' Worth of IPv4 Addresses" |
| 08:25.32 | zenzio | how many years have they been saying that now? 5+? |
| 08:41.03 | Wobin | you can sell the dungeon necklace for 3g |
| 08:41.21 | Wobin | or so I hear |
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| 08:58.44 | Adys | how do you send POST data with curl? |
| 08:58.50 | Adys | I feel like spamming some phishing sites |
| 09:00.12 | Adys | found it, -d |
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| 09:06.11 | DJJeff | noboby answered my question about changing the volume of addons X_X |
| 09:06.35 | olafski | I don't think you can |
| 09:06.49 | DJJeff | lame |
| 09:07.11 | DJJeff | and dont tell me its the addon itself thats broken.. cause 1/2 the time its normal |
| 09:08.40 | olafski | oh yeah, something that works normally half the time can never be broken :P |
| 09:09.16 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmm my music to sound ratio was off |
| 09:09.27 | DJJeff | my music was low and my sound was up |
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| 09:09.53 | DJJeff | they need to have the NPC's and BOSS speeches in their own volume group |
| 09:09.57 | DJJeff | that would help tons |
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| 09:25.01 | Fisker | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 09:25.02 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming (3d 12h 30m 10s) #wowuidev (3d 12h 30m 10s) #wowace (3d 12h 30m 10s). Has said a total of 79 messages. Is idling for 2h 43m 23s, last said: 'heh'. |
| 09:25.16 | Fisker | gentlejnwhiteh |
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| 09:28.41 | Kalroth | rubs Fisker gently on the fur. |
| 09:41.10 | Fisker | i want jnwhiteh |
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| 09:44.03 | Fisker | why won't jnwhiteh love me?! |
| 09:53.54 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: What's the logic behind BannedAddons.dbc? |
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| 09:54.20 | ZorbaTHut | I presume so they can back up their threat of "addons must be nonobfuscated" etc, and also so they can get rid of stuff that's abusing their resources |
| 09:54.52 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: I meant, the actual dbc structure :P |
| 09:55.03 | Adys | Is there anything known apart from the whole "lol 10 hashes" thing? |
| 09:55.07 | ZorbaTHut | oh, I have no idea, I don't bother digging into their database structures |
| 09:55.23 | Adys | they're all identical too |
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| 09:58.27 | Fisker | brrrs |
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| 10:15.24 | Arrowmaster | did it change at all from before 3.3 to the current one? |
| 10:15.33 | Arrowmaster | because an addon was banned |
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| 10:22.02 | Adys | Arrowmaster: dont think it did |
| 10:22.12 | Adys | and i cant check right now |
| 10:22.26 | Arrowmaster | if it didnt then its just a diversion |
| 10:22.27 | mikma | lol lies, addons never got banned |
| 10:22.40 | Arrowmaster | old versions of gearscore are banned |
| 10:22.52 | Adys | well theres a new baddons.wcf that is actually used now |
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| 10:24.43 | mikma | and since we don't know what it contains... |
| 10:46.23 | Wobin | I bet it's a red herring |
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| 11:13.19 | Ginji | WTB use for my 300 dalaran cooking awards |
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| 11:13.47 | zenzio | did you already buy the hat? |
| 11:14.53 | Fisker | buy northern spices |
| 11:14.58 | Wobin | and sell on the AH |
| 11:15.15 | Wobin | I take it you've bought all the recipes? |
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| 11:19.53 | Kaso | i agree with buy spices/sell on ah |
| 11:20.04 | Kaso | but be careful not to flood the market too much |
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| 11:25.10 | cidwel | hi ya! |
| 11:25.34 | zenzio | hi |
| 11:26.27 | cidwel | could someone help me with a simple issue in data loading? >_< |
| 11:26.49 | zenzio | that's hard to tell until you explain the problem |
| 11:27.39 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/140864/ |
| 11:27.48 | Adys | how many times do I mention how awesome this is |
| 11:28.57 | cidwel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.44 | Fisker | zenzio can't help with anything :( |
| 11:29.46 | cidwel | i made a simple function to get the battleground holiday and it works well using wowlua p.e. but doesn't work in the first instance when the game loads |
| 11:32.20 | Fisker | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 11:32.22 | Fisker | what about that? |
| 11:33.30 | cidwel | i tried and doesn't worked :( |
| 11:33.40 | cidwel | also i trield PLAYEr_ALIVE |
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| 11:36.24 | cidwel | doesn't work :s if I relog the interface, the data is gathered, if i relog the char, the data doesn't gather |
| 11:36.25 | zenzio | cidwel: try VARIABLES_LOADED or P_E_W as Fisker linked |
| 11:36.44 | Arrowmaster | dont bother with VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 11:37.01 | cidwel | variables_loaded doesn't worked :s |
| 11:37.24 | zenzio | how do you find the holiday BG, is there an actual API call for it? |
| 11:37.35 | cidwel | no, so i simply created it |
| 11:37.46 | zenzio | and how do you do that? |
| 11:37.55 | cidwel | gimme a sec |
| 11:38.15 | Arrowmaster | can you put your code up on pastey.net (or any other paste site) and give us the url |
| 11:38.15 | Adys | I finally found out how to show the full path of a file in ls -al |
| 11:38.34 | Arrowmaster | Adys: reading man pages helps |
| 11:38.34 | zenzio | Adys: how would that be? |
| 11:38.37 | Adys | find | grep someFile | xargs ls -al |
| 11:38.44 | Adys | Arrowmaster: yeah, its not possible with ls alone |
| 11:38.50 | Adys | fat luck trying to find this in man |
| 11:38.59 | cidwel | http://wowui.pastey.net/130968 here |
| 11:41.03 | Arrowmaster | Adys: you should not be using grep at all like that |
| 11:41.09 | Fisker | http://mashable.com/2010/01/01/idn-phishing/ <-lol |
| 11:41.29 | Adys | Arrowmaster: why not? |
| 11:41.52 | Arrowmaster | because find searches for files so use it to do that |
| 11:42.02 | Adys | to hell i will |
| 11:42.06 | Adys | i cant remember its shitty commands |
| 11:42.08 | Arrowmaster | instead of having it output every fucking file on the system |
| 11:42.08 | Adys | grep > * |
| 11:42.20 | Adys | ... Im not outputting every file on the system |
| 11:42.24 | Arrowmaster | yes you are |
| 11:42.26 | Adys | Im outputting every file in some dir |
| 11:42.29 | Adys | no. |
| 11:42.35 | Adys | find uses cwd as base |
| 11:42.44 | Adys | try it |
| 11:46.56 | Fisker | backs slowly out |
| 11:46.56 | Wobin | quietly shuts the door |
| 11:46.56 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: who wrote that article? theyre fucking morons |
| 11:46.56 | Adys | preps the detonator |
| 11:46.56 | Fisker | idk |
| 11:46.56 | cidwel | doesn't worked -.- ¿someone had issues trying to get data when addons are loading? |
| 11:46.56 | Adys | Arrowmaster: why? |
| 11:46.56 | Wobin | as the comments below say, you can't mix language scripts urls |
| 11:46.56 | Arrowmaster | because part of the whole idn thing is that characters that can be confused for other characters are not allowed |
| 11:46.57 | Adys | Wobin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name |
| 11:46.57 | Arrowmaster | the registars will block it |
| 11:46.57 | Adys | they wont block it automatically |
| 11:46.57 | Adys | well |
| 11:46.57 | Arrowmaster | yes they will |
| 11:46.57 | Adys | for now, i guess IDNs are still handed manually |
| 11:46.57 | Arrowmaster | icann wont even allow the registars to register it |
| 11:46.57 | Arrowmaster | no theyve spent a lot of time making tables of characters that arent allowed together i think |
| 11:46.59 | Adys | shrugs |
| 11:47.31 | Fisker | Besides chrome shows the "not-so" cool name :P |
| 11:47.46 | Adys | not for long |
| 11:47.52 | Adys | webkit has idn support in trunk |
| 11:48.01 | Fisker | ;( |
| 11:48.05 | Fisker | i want a toggle |
| 11:48.17 | Adys | prolly doable |
| 11:48.31 | Arrowmaster | cidwel: try registering for UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATUS and seeing if that fires during login and the info is correct during it |
| 11:48.36 | Adys | Im sure an extension could do it, chrome has to make the real url available |
| 11:49.06 | Adys | Also |
| 11:49.19 | Adys | I'm guessing it wont be enabled by default depending on language |
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| 11:52.30 | Arrowmaster | it will likely be enabled for everybody |
| 11:52.55 | Arrowmaster | you have to remember that only certain tld's will have it enabled though |
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| 11:54.27 | zenzio | the lack of international characters in domain names has been a source of fun over here |
| 11:54.30 | cidwel | Arrowmaster doesn't fire at logon :/ |
| 11:55.23 | zenzio | like the magasine "Se og Hør" (See and Hear), whose domain had to be seoghor.no... which would mean something like "See/Look and Whore" (the verb whore) |
| 11:58.42 | Arrowmaster | cidwel: try PVPQUEUE_ANYWHERE_SHOW and NPC_PVPQUEUE_ANYWHERE |
| 12:00.31 | cidwel | i'll try :D |
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| 12:09.42 | amro | zenzio: ouch |
| 12:09.59 | amro | ...what kind of magazine is it? :P |
| 12:10.35 | zenzio | don't recall what it's called in English... the kind that's chock full of pictures and "news" about celebrities |
| 12:10.49 | Arrowmaster | tabloid |
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| 12:11.54 | amro | oh. so the domain name is appropriate |
| 12:12.19 | zenzio | hehe, yeah |
| 12:12.34 | zenzio | they actually changed their domain long ago |
| 12:12.42 | zenzio | now it's just "look here" |
| 12:17.53 | Fisker | brr |
| 12:18.34 | zenzio | Fisker: why so cold? |
| 12:19.16 | Polarina | Nice, Blizzard is accepting internships now. :P |
| 12:19.53 | Fisker | because brrrrr zenzelezz |
| 12:21.34 | Fisker | Polarina any openings for forum trolls, i.e. community managers? |
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| 12:23.14 | zenzio | does Thundgot still work as an EU CM? |
| 12:23.40 | Polarina | Fisker: Let me check. |
| 12:24.17 | Fisker | i think so zenzio |
| 12:24.22 | Fisker | unless something changed in the past week or so |
| 12:24.30 | Fisker | http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/99/e8/57/bb/99e857bb27c71f8542a501ac9feb3583.gif <-lol @ poor translations |
| 12:24.42 | Fisker | It pretty much says she lost 20 pounds in 2 weeks without food! |
| 12:24.47 | Fisker | well how did she survive 2 weeks hoho |
| 12:24.59 | zenzio | Fisker: I don't frequent the forums :-p Just remember he went from being the Anarchy Online CM to that position |
| 12:25.47 | Fisker | yeah |
| 12:26.14 | Polarina | Fisker: There's Account Support Representative and Billing Support Representative. |
| 12:26.25 | Polarina | Fisker: As a full time job, not internship though. :( |
| 12:26.46 | Fisker | but i want to troll the forums |
| 12:26.47 | Polarina | And Customer Service Sepresentative. |
| 12:26.54 | zenzio | internships aren't that interesting unless you already live nearby |
| 12:26.56 | Fisker | with blue text of course |
| 12:27.41 | Polarina | Fisker: Sorry, but that's all I see that closely relates to what you are looking for. :( |
| 12:27.42 | Fisker | Paris is only a 1200km ride |
| 12:28.07 | Fisker | and Cork is only 1900km |
| 12:28.12 | Fisker | should be easy |
| 12:28.15 | Polarina | Close enough. :P |
| 12:28.55 | Polarina | But I don't live close, perhaps CCP then. |
| 12:30.26 | zenzio | why do you want an internship rather than a full job? Still in education? |
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| 12:31.24 | Fisker | naw |
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| 12:31.44 | cidwel | Arrowmaster thanks for the help, it worked :P |
| 12:35.43 | Polarina | I am certain Fisker would be happy with anything as long as he gets to post as a blue. |
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| 13:06.56 | kaiden | Anyone know if there is an addon that keybinds the top most item in the Objectives frame to auto use. Would love that so i could just go right down my quest list :P |
| 13:07.22 | kaiden | and one that auto untracks completed quests... i really love the new objectives frame just needs a bit of tweaking |
| 13:27.24 | zenzio | 'In their "Grinch's Gift Guide," Yahoo included the PS3 on their list of gifts to avoid. Their reason was, to say the least, a little bit odd: "It's all fun and games until the battery dies. Unlike its competitors, which use replaceable AA batteries, the PS3's remote control is glued shut. When the battery goes, Sony customers have to blow $55 on a new controller." Some part of that quote might contain some factual inaccuracy. Like, yo |
| 13:27.24 | zenzio | u know, all of it.' |
| 13:27.34 | zenzio | how did I miss this |
| 13:28.08 | Fisker | cuts in jnwhiteh |
| 13:28.29 | Fisker | sauce zenzio |
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| 13:30.59 | xqo | Hi! I'm trying to get a list of auctionindexes for my own auctions. Do you know any related api-functions? |
| 13:31.16 | amro | !api auction |
| 13:31.16 | lua_bot | Found 36 possible matches for 'auction'. Please be more specific |
| 13:31.23 | amro | 36. |
| 13:31.52 | xqo | !api auction list |
| 13:31.53 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'auction list'. |
| 13:31.57 | xqo | !api auction num |
| 13:31.58 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'auction num'. |
| 13:32.06 | xqo | !api get auction |
| 13:32.06 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'get auction'. |
| 13:32.06 | amro | xqo: hang on |
| 13:32.35 | amro | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories#auction |
| 13:32.39 | Fisker | SAUCE OR DIE ZENZIO |
| 13:32.48 | Fisker | added caps for cool |
| 13:33.00 | zenzio | sauces Fisker |
| 13:34.02 | Fisker | nice |
| 13:34.14 | Fisker | all of the laptops used as the climate conference in copenhagen was stolen |
| 13:34.20 | Fisker | i wonder if there's any juicy stuff on it |
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| 13:35.23 | xqo | oki, thank you, amro! |
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| 13:37.19 | zenzio | http://averagecats.com/1094 |
| 13:37.29 | zenzio | hai peppy |
| 13:37.45 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, zenzelezz! |
| 13:38.40 | Fisker | I now hate you zenzio |
| 13:38.42 | Fisker | i hope you die :( |
| 13:38.50 | zenzio | I will, eventually |
| 13:39.05 | zenzio | it's scheduled sometime in the next 80 years |
| 13:39.08 | Cairenn | please don't joke like that |
| 13:39.17 | zenzio | why not? |
| 13:39.27 | Cairenn | my husband's best friend died last night |
| 13:39.34 | Cairenn | heart attack at 42, no warning |
| 13:40.01 | zenzio | sorry to hear that; I'll spare you my peculiar views on life |
| 13:43.34 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles Cairenn as the standin for the husband. |
| 13:43.47 | zenzio | blinks |
| 13:44.21 | krka | that sucks royally Cairenn :/ |
| 13:44.28 | Cairenn | thanks Lopeppeppy ... I finally got him to go sleep, but I've been staying up to relay information back and forth to everyone |
| 13:45.17 | krka | was he/she some sort of athlete, or overweight, or with some illness, or was it just totally and utterly random? |
| 13:46.40 | Cairenn | he was diabetic |
| 13:46.52 | Cairenn | but ... still completely unexpected |
| 13:47.14 | Cairenn | I mean, he was only 42 ... |
| 13:47.39 | zenzio | stop saying that, you're making me want to make Hitchhiker jokes |
| 13:47.46 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:54.58 | krka | yeah, 42 is really young |
| 13:55.36 | krka | my daughter would only be like 15 when i'm 42 |
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| 13:59.00 | Fisker | atleast the one you know about |
| 14:00.07 | Kalroth | that's relative, krka - it is really young today, it was average 100 years ago |
| 14:00.26 | cbreak | people die. |
| 14:01.20 | haste | when they are killed. |
| 14:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | You get what everyone gets - a lifetime. |
| 14:04.16 | krka | Kalroth: you were average 100 years ago! |
| 14:04.22 | Fisker | I wouldn't want the lifetime channel |
| 14:04.45 | Fisker | rather lifetime in prison (geddit?) |
| 14:05.03 | Kalroth | krka: I'm still average today! |
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| 14:11.04 | Kraps | hey, you know what the best thing about indigo prophecy's protagonist is? he has theory of a deadman in his stereo! |
| 14:11.07 | Recessions | Whats up, everyone. |
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| 14:26.18 | Kraps | win http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/december/screens/desolace_landscape_2.jpg |
| 14:26.27 | Lopeppeppy | Stitch is troubled. He needs desserts. |
| 14:26.31 | Fisker | why? |
| 14:26.42 | Lopeppeppy | Pudge controls the weather. |
| 14:26.42 | Fisker | that's actually a pretty lazy conversion! |
| 14:26.50 | Fisker | i mean why it was win |
| 14:27.13 | foxlit | This game needs better tree models. |
| 14:27.19 | foxlit | This junk is pathetic. |
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| 14:27.43 | foxlit | I mean, they fixed the water. Now can we get plant life that doesn't look like a cardboard cutout? |
| 14:28.08 | haste | honestly |
| 14:28.12 | Fisker | the water looks bad |
| 14:28.16 | haste | I'm looking forward to the water |
| 14:28.23 | haste | that's like the main event for me in cataclysm |
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| 14:28.34 | haste | it better make fucking waves! |
| 14:28.40 | haste | or I'll call morrowind on it |
| 14:29.34 | Fisker | i'm just looking forward to making haste more useful |
| 14:29.46 | Fisker | right now he just sits there |
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| 14:33.06 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 14:33.43 | Lopeppeppy | Triumphantly, Lunessa descends upon his minions with the wrath of the First Monday After Vacation Mailbox Hatred! |
| 14:34.04 | Fisker | Mailbox |
| 14:34.08 | Fisker | damn you Lopeppeppy |
| 14:34.23 | Lunessa | Yae verilly did he smite the unbelievers, those who had forgotten their passwords, and the mighty phone mail box. |
| 14:35.32 | ZorbaTHut | the problem with the plant life is, I suspect, not actually a problem with the plant life itself |
| 14:35.41 | ZorbaTHut | it's a problem with the large empty areas between the plants |
| 14:36.34 | ZorbaTHut | WoW is basically a large bumpy plane with some ambient random grass and a few trees jammed into it. there's just nothing between "grass" and "giant tree", and that looks wrong. |
| 14:37.10 | foxlit | That's true; I would, however, have less of a problem with it if trees looked like they had some actual volume |
| 14:37.36 | Lopeppeppy | Zorba, you mean like Kansas? |
| 14:37.47 | krka | every tree in wow looks like the big ass-tree in avatar |
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| 14:38.21 | foxlit | A big ass-tree, eh? |
| 14:38.25 | ZorbaTHut | yes, I mean like Kansas. http://cache.virtualtourist.com/2345740-Welcome_to_Kansas-Kansas.jpg for example here's a bunch of dense high grass, which WoW doesn't have, with some copses of various sizes of trees in the background, which WoW doesn't have |
| 14:38.27 | ZorbaTHut | ;) |
| 14:38.49 | foxlit | I suspect the issue is that they have no branches |
| 14:39.08 | Fisker | OH GOD NO |
| 14:39.14 | foxlit | And leaves are basically composed by scaling a four-pixel texture over a few polygons. |
| 14:39.14 | Fisker | i forgot the daily random yesterday :( |
| 14:39.25 | foxlit | The world, Fisker. It is doomed. |
| 14:39.58 | Fisker | it is foxlit |
| 14:40.02 | Fisker | cause i'm gonna blow it up |
| 14:40.32 | cbreak | (worst case he'll set his pants on fire and we'll have naked-scanners at the entrance to internet caffees) |
| 14:40.39 | krka | i for one think blizzard has done a good job with rendering trees using as few polygons and textures as possible and still make it look ok |
| 14:41.18 | krka | remember, their primary goal seem to be to make it run on any computer |
| 14:41.18 | ZorbaTHut | krka, oh sure, I'm not saying they should be changing it. I'm just explaining what I think the biggest issues involved in their current techniques are. |
| 14:41.44 | foxlit | krka: I, for one, welcome our text-only MMORPG overlords. |
| 14:59.40 | Adys | pours mud over foxlit |
| 15:00.57 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: You can turn up the intensity of the "ground clutter" to remove some of the very issue you're complaining about, but you need to use console commands. |
| 15:01.48 | mikma | or remove the clutter completely like i always do ^^ |
| 15:02.01 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, yeah, I've done that, but it only somewhat helps |
| 15:02.12 | ZorbaTHut | you still don't get the midsize shrubs that are such an important part of any landscape |
| 15:03.03 | Lunessa | This is true, but compared to most other MMOs I've played (EQ, EQII, CoH/CoV, DAoC, UO) WoW's terrain looks pretty good. :) |
| 15:04.32 | ZorbaTHut | that's true, but keep in mind how ancient all those games are, and they do indeed look dated at this point. I mean compare it to http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/xfx_geforce_8800_ultra_xxx/screenshots/guild_wars.jpg which is also crazy dated by now and still looks a lot better |
| 15:05.20 | foxlit | guild wars has clearly discovered the secret technology of rendering branches. |
| 15:05.37 | Lunessa | Guild Wars is a funny animal. |
| 15:05.53 | foxlit | Their leaf texture still sucks, but at least there's more of it. |
| 15:06.00 | ZorbaTHut | even http://images.crispygamer.com/public/News-2009-07-01/dnd39.jpg looks better and it's partially thanks to that foliage off to the side. |
| 15:06.36 | foxlit | And that has a better leaf texture. |
| 15:06.56 | foxlit | [and probably model -- those things actually have shape] |
| 15:08.37 | krka | i find models usually tend to have relative little shape actually |
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| 15:11.26 | cbreak | real leaves are mostly flat too. |
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| 15:16.23 | d87 | hi, i was wondering how to determine if player is inside instance. afaik there's no way to do this aside from storing localizing boss/instance names. but in DBM i noticed mod:SetCreatureID(10184) line |
| 15:16.57 | d87 | is it possible to use npc id somehow? |
| 15:18.35 | olafski | oO |
| 15:19.04 | olafski | ~api IsInInstance |
| 15:19.05 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_IsInInstance |
| 15:20.13 | d87 | i need to know what instance that is |
| 15:21.18 | olafski | oh.. that's not what you originally asked though |
| 15:21.50 | olafski | ~api GetRealZoneText |
| 15:21.51 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetRealZoneText |
| 15:21.53 | olafski | that doesn't do it? |
| 15:22.41 | krka | there's probably a useful map function for it too |
| 15:23.40 | d87 | GetRealZoneText returns localized zone name |
| 15:24.03 | krka | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInstanceInfo |
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| 15:26.38 | krka | honestly, it's like you're not even looking yourself |
| 15:27.42 | Ackis | cool. we (Alberta) built a bridge over a highway in the middle of nowhere for elk to cross lol |
| 15:27.55 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 15:27.56 | olafski | pretty epic |
| 15:27.57 | d87 | because GetInstanceInfo is localized too.. oh well, but idea about map functions was useful. i think there was map ids |
| 15:28.05 | olafski | we usually build tunnels for such things |
| 15:29.16 | Ackis | I wonder how long it'll take the predators to camp the entrances/exits |
| 15:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | We build those all the time in the states. Ladders for fish to swim, under and overpasses for wildlife, all that. |
| 15:29.47 | Ackis | http://i50.tinypic.com/xp0nco.jpg |
| 15:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder how long it will take the hunters to camp out there, instead. :) |
| 15:30.03 | Ackis | that's illegal peppy :P |
| 15:30.11 | Ackis | major highway too |
| 15:30.20 | Ackis | I've seen the tunnels before, never seen a bridge |
| 15:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | What does legality have to do with anything? |
| 15:30.35 | Ackis | plus it's in a national park :P |
| 15:30.46 | Ackis | the hunter wouldn't get away with it |
| 15:31.00 | Lopeppeppy | What does legality have to do with anything? I grew up in one, it's easier sometimes to get away with crap in a park. |
| 15:31.37 | Ackis | "it's only illegal if you get caught" <-- they'd get caught, too much traffic on the highway :P |
| 15:31.53 | Ackis | on a side note: A Kingdom for Keflings is this weeks deal on Xbox Live - just 400 points. |
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| 15:32.09 | Ackis | and speaking of xbox, Arrowmaster I hate you for making me play more batman :P that game is teh devil on hard mode |
| 15:32.14 | Lopeppeppy | For that particular bridge, perhaps. But once the elk understand the concept of "bridge", getting them to cross one elsewhere is easier. |
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| 15:37.54 | Ackis | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 15:37.58 | Ackis | I'm engaged eh |
| 15:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | I know, you told me. |
| 15:39.18 | Ackis | oh |
| 15:39.22 | Ackis | sheesh |
| 15:39.24 | Ackis | steal my thunder |
| 15:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | You stole it yourself, you announced it on Facebook! |
| 15:39.52 | Ackis | hah |
| 15:40.01 | Ackis | it wasn't official til facebook got updated! |
| 15:40.50 | Lopeppeppy | You're talking to someone whose husband used his facebook status to tell her he wanted a divorce... I'm just a weeeeEEEEEEEEE jaded on that shite. |
| 15:41.00 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:41.01 | ckknight | hey, who wants to look over some code for me? |
| 15:41.11 | Ackis | ~comfort Lopeppeppy |
| 15:41.12 | purl | There, there, Lopeppeppy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 15:41.14 | ckknight | Ackis: you don't look busy |
| 15:41.15 | ckknight | <.< |
| 15:41.15 | ckknight | >.> |
| 15:41.27 | Ackis | ckknight: I could look |
| 15:41.42 | ckknight | Ackis: http://paste.wowace.com/1592/ |
| 15:41.47 | Lunessa | already needs another vacation |
| 15:44.09 | Lopeppeppy | wants to bring mint jelly to work for eating ze sheeple. |
| 15:48.23 | Lunessa | Mutton is nasty. |
| 15:53.58 | Lopeppeppy | Every sheeple is scared, every sheeple is good... in stew. |
| 15:54.28 | durcyn | scared or sacred? |
| 15:54.59 | Lopeppeppy | They should be afraid, but they're not. |
| 15:55.15 | durcyn | i wasn't sure if you were going the Python route or not |
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| 16:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | I could feed them to pythons, sure. |
| 16:02.24 | Ackis | my feet stink |
| 16:02.32 | Fisker | and my farts smell |
| 16:02.38 | Fisker | you want one Ackis ? |
| 16:02.39 | Fisker | they're free |
| 16:02.53 | Ackis | I'll fart on your face! |
| 16:03.12 | Fisker | but i'll fart IN your face |
| 16:03.26 | Fisker | i want a nexus one btw Ackis |
| 16:05.11 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tekkub |
| 16:05.13 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 20d 10h 45m 37s ago, saying: 'I stand by my last statement'. |
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| 16:11.05 | Fisker | trips Gnarfoz over a box of tnt |
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| 16:25.00 | amro | Fisker: TNT isn't volatile, you'll have to do better than that |
| 16:26.38 | Gnarfoz | he didn't say anything about the TNT exploding |
| 16:27.08 | amro | we can assume his grand plan wasn't for you to bruise your elbows |
| 16:27.15 | Fisker | oh but it was! |
| 16:28.46 | Lopeppeppy | He's very subtle. "To the pain" and all. |
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| 16:50.58 | cog|work | *sigh* |
| 16:51.02 | cog|work | restores backups |
| 16:51.23 | Fisker | laughs at cog|work |
| 16:51.30 | cog|work | Come into work this morning and all the payments for the last 4 and a half years vanished from the database >< |
| 16:51.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oh very no. |
| 16:52.08 | Lopeppeppy | Something to do with new year rollover, or much more random than that? |
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| 16:52.32 | cog|work | we'll find out in about 17 minutes (windows file copy dialog minutes, that is) |
| 16:52.47 | kdtresh | conspiracy! |
| 16:55.11 | Lopeppeppy | may the force be with you, cog. |
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| 16:58.28 | cog|work | channels his midi-chlorians |
| 17:01.25 | Lopeppeppy | good music always helps |
| 17:02.10 | Fisker | IT'S COLD |
| 17:02.22 | cog|work | sends Fisker some ice cream |
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| 17:09.18 | Fisker | OH MY GOD |
| 17:09.28 | Fisker | how the hell can you take $50 for a DVI-VGA converte |
| 17:09.45 | Fisker | Heck i've seen cheaper graphics cards with it included |
| 17:09.46 | Fisker | grrr |
| 17:10.28 | Ackis | http://dailysquee.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/129065949729579661.jpg |
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| 17:10.45 | Fisker | just give me a reason Ackis |
| 17:12.03 | jnwhiteh | ONE REASON |
| 17:12.19 | Ackis | isn't that a song? |
| 17:12.23 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: are you back in the UK? |
| 17:12.29 | jnwhiteh | no =/ |
| 17:12.31 | Fisker | i wish |
| 17:12.36 | Fisker | btw |
| 17:12.42 | Fisker | can't you stay for a few days? |
| 17:12.48 | Fisker | I need a Nexus One without paying VAT |
| 17:12.55 | jnwhiteh | i leave on the 5th |
| 17:12.58 | jnwhiteh | you dont want a nexus one yet |
| 17:13.00 | jnwhiteh | no 3g |
| 17:13.06 | jnwhiteh | on att at least |
| 17:13.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:13.15 | Fisker | duh |
| 17:13.17 | Fisker | i'm not in the US |
| 17:13.19 | jnwhiteh | the specs haven't covered wheter it'll be quad band or not |
| 17:13.20 | jnwhiteh | yes i know |
| 17:13.23 | jnwhiteh | but i dont know what the specs are =) |
| 17:13.26 | jnwhiteh | no one does yet :P |
| 17:13.28 | Fisker | and the FCC already have the specs |
| 17:13.36 | jnwhiteh | UR MOM HAS THE SPECS |
| 17:13.40 | Fisker | 900/1700/2100 i believe |
| 17:13.47 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 17:13.48 | Fisker | i.e. works with pretty much every EU carrier in the world |
| 17:13.53 | jnwhiteh | well i dont think its avail on the 5th |
| 17:14.00 | Fisker | i hope it is |
| 17:14.08 | Fisker | i hate this phone to hell |
| 17:14.12 | Fisker | + it runs windows mobile |
| 17:14.16 | jnwhiteh | buy a hero |
| 17:14.20 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 17:14.20 | jnwhiteh | then you can run cladhaire's custom rom |
| 17:14.21 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 17:14.27 | jnwhiteh | YOU WOULDN"T BUY A HERO! |
| 17:14.44 | Fisker | man i'm seriously pissed though |
| 17:15.05 | Fisker | I lost a VGA->DVI adapter so i got one from an eletronics store |
| 17:15.09 | Fisker | $50 |
| 17:15.14 | Fisker | that's outrageous |
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| 17:15.32 | jnwhiteh | would you say, it's a slap in the face? |
| 17:15.35 | Fisker | it is |
| 17:15.42 | Fisker | i'm so pissed i want to nuke the world |
| 17:15.43 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 17:15.44 | Legorol | morning |
| 17:15.59 | Legorol | someone slapped Fisker in the face? isn't that normal? |
| 17:16.12 | Fisker | A DVI-VGA adapter set me back $50 |
| 17:16.19 | Fisker | if that's not a slap in the face i don't know what is |
| 17:16.23 | Legorol | ouch |
| 17:16.33 | Legorol | that's.. ridiculous |
| 17:16.36 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:16.41 | Legorol | although sounds like it's somewhat self-inflicted |
| 17:16.48 | durcyn | i thought you used euroes or kroners or some other kind of play money in denmark |
| 17:16.51 | Legorol | were you forced to buy it at gunpoint? |
| 17:16.53 | Fisker | and i had like a bunch of them a few months ago but trashed them |
| 17:17.02 | Fisker | durcyn it's called currency exchange |
| 17:17.17 | Fisker | Legorol well no, but i can't just say "haha fuck you, your monitor doesn't work" |
| 17:17.18 | durcyn | SINCE WHEN |
| 17:17.29 | Fisker | since your mother |
| 17:17.35 | durcyn | also, i'm going to take a picture of my 37 different vga-dvi adapters and send it to you |
| 17:17.48 | durcyn | i'll mail it COD for $50 |
| 17:17.59 | Fisker | i want to kill you |
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| 17:18.27 | Fisker | But atleast now i know that i'll keep all the adapters |
| 17:18.38 | Fisker | sell them for $49.99 perhaps |
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| 17:48.21 | cog|work | crisis averted |
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| 17:48.54 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent. Backup restored and life is good? |
| 17:49.02 | cog|work | 'till next time anyway |
| 17:49.15 | Lopeppeppy | stupid comptuers |
| 17:50.06 | Lunessa | cog|work: How much you want to bet someone accidentally did something like ;DropTable; to you? |
| 17:51.50 | cog|work | Lunessa: it may as well have been little purple gremlins... the damn thing's in Access >< |
| 17:52.02 | Lunessa | cog|work: /comfort |
| 17:52.11 | kdtresh | ugh, access |
| 17:52.12 | cog|work | Spontaneous Data Combustion imo |
| 17:52.13 | kdtresh | shudders. |
| 17:52.35 | cog|work | probably happened during a compact and "repair" >< |
| 17:52.50 | Lopeppeppy | Repair this, beyotch. |
| 17:56.34 | zenzelezz | there's your problem, everyone knows Americans can't handle compacts |
| 17:57.03 | cog|work | zenzelezz: sure they can... they're just called sports cars :P |
| 17:57.22 | zenzelezz | 4-liter motors are not allowed in compacts |
| 17:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | They are if you can do the work yourself. Zoom zoom zoom. |
| 17:59.33 | ckknight | hey, anyone know the data formats for questcache.wdb for 3.3? |
| 18:03.06 | zenzelezz | zooms along with Lopeppeppy |
| 18:03.22 | Lopeppeppy | See? zoom. |
| 18:04.05 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Compact cars are for people who let cows, sheep and horses lay out their fucking cities. |
| 18:04.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, you mean Boston! |
| 18:04.24 | zenzelezz | that sounds like most US cities |
| 18:04.30 | Lunessa | And all of Europe. |
| 18:04.48 | zenzelezz | that's nonsense |
| 18:04.52 | zenzelezz | Norway was built my mosses |
| 18:04.54 | zenzelezz | *mooses |
| 18:04.54 | Lopeppeppy | No, a lot of US cities were well-planned at first, and then got all grown-over in renovations. Boston however, was borked from the get-go. |
| 18:05.35 | Lunessa | Many East Coast cities in the US show a deplorable European design influence. |
| 18:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | Is not a coincidence, since they were settled and designed by Europeans. |
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| 18:16.09 | kd3 | brr |
| 18:16.14 | kd3 | c'mon ups |
| 18:16.19 | kd3 | deliver my toys already |
| 18:17.09 | zenzelezz | just go to the sex store like a real man |
| 18:17.14 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFIYGkROII |
| 18:18.15 | Lopeppeppy | Still haven't arrived, kd3? How evil. |
| 18:18.24 | kd3 | it's out for delivery |
| 18:18.43 | Lopeppeppy | I've heard THAT before. |
| 18:19.55 | Ackis | lol http://iamhilarious.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pocahontas-avatar-750x730.jpg |
| 18:20.45 | Kraps | Ackis: spoilers? |
| 18:20.56 | Ackis | totally |
| 18:21.00 | Ackis | not really |
| 18:21.05 | Ackis | just comparing how the 2 movies are the same |
| 18:22.56 | Kraps | i figured but i havent seen pocahontas er avatar |
| 18:23.17 | Lopeppeppy | There are only 7 basic plots, everything else is just a derivitative of them. |
| 18:23.28 | Ackis | oh this is neat: http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/129058873981357726.jpg |
| 18:23.40 | foxlit | The ending of that book review is kind of meh. |
| 18:24.48 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: the trailer for avater gives away the whole story, i just dont want details spoiled |
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| 18:31.22 | NeoTron | Avatar is avetsome |
| 18:31.34 | Ackis | i want to have babies with avatar |
| 18:31.58 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6tdLvOKU88&feature=player_embedded <-OMG NO WIRE WIRELESS |
| 18:32.09 | Fisker | also OMG PC OUTPUT TO TV INPUT HOW NEW AND EXCITING |
| 18:32.40 | Fisker | Postal the movie is better than Avatar |
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| 18:33.12 | Ackis | Fisker: you stink |
| 18:33.33 | Fisker | Ackis you made the point yourself |
| 18:33.35 | Fisker | http://iamhilarious.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/pocahontas-avatar-750x730.jpg |
| 18:34.39 | Ackis | me saying you stink was not related to your comment about avatar |
| 18:36.02 | Lopeppeppy | Off to be meetingful. Wish me joy. |
| 18:36.52 | Fisker | oh u Ackis |
| 18:36.58 | Ackis | I love you Fisker |
| 18:38.31 | Fisker | kd3 i hate those heartless souls who sell dvi->vga adapters |
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| 18:38.53 | Fisker | had thrown one away and needed a new one because my brother has a shitty monitor |
| 18:38.59 | Fisker | Was $50 |
| 18:39.03 | Fisker | fuck those bastards |
| 18:39.13 | nevcairiel | I have like 10 of those |
| 18:39.24 | nevcairiel | every gfx cards comes with 2 now |
| 18:39.26 | nevcairiel | and i need 0 |
| 18:39.27 | Fisker | so did i |
| 18:39.30 | Fisker | same |
| 18:39.47 | Fisker | i trashed all of mine when we cleaned out |
| 18:40.02 | Ackis | why didn't you get nevcairiel to mail you one Fisker? |
| 18:40.03 | Fisker | Not cleaning up would've saved me $50 :( |
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| 18:40.20 | Fisker | your mother Ackis |
| 18:40.24 | nevcairiel | because i would've charged him 100 |
| 18:41.10 | Ackis | http://www.cracked.com/article/18356_where-arent-they-now-13-overlooked-deaths-2009/ |
| 18:42.23 | Fisker | aww |
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| 18:42.29 | Fisker | henry gibson :( |
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| 18:56.44 | zenzelezz | ffs... mom's computer naturally borked, so the store made a backup CD of their files, and they got a new PC, now with Win7. So she calls me asking how they get their files back on the new computer. I tell her to insert the CD and open Windows Explorer. "Oh, we haven't unpacked it yet"... |
| 18:56.58 | zenzelezz | and after using computers since Win98, she still doesn't understand folders or how to copy files |
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| 18:58.57 | alestane | Most people think of computers in terms of tasks rather than states, in my experience. |
| 18:59.49 | zenzelezz | it wouldn't be so annoying if I hadn't explained it all a dozen times |
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| 19:28.00 | alestane | zenzelezz: http://xkcd.com/627/ |
| 19:33.02 | durcyn | http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1951248,00.html words. |
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| 20:04.49 | ckknight | durcyn: so you're saying you don't want our bromance to continue? |
| 20:05.04 | Lopeppeppy | is sad to watch a breakup in progress. |
| 20:08.15 | alestane | "bromance?" |
| 20:08.36 | Lunessa | Actual call: Hi, I can't get logged in to my e-mail, can you reset my password? Me: Where are you logging in? Them: Home. Me: No, what web-page? Them: Oh, yours. But you have a typo in my user name so I type it in correctly spelled. Me: /facepalm. |
| 20:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 20:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | That would be /murder |
| 20:09.24 | Lunessa | Me: Can you login now for me? Them: Oh, I'm not at a computer now. Me: *dies* |
| 20:09.33 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 20:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | That would be mass murder. |
| 20:09.53 | Lunessa | No wonder everyone but me is on vacation today. |
| 20:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I had a sheeple take me by the hand and lead me to her computer this afternoon. To clear the cache. I wanted to gouge out mine eyes with a pencil. |
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| 20:10.38 | alestane | Nah, that's what sporks are for. |
| 20:10.48 | Lunessa | Peppy: Everyone here wants someone to come RIGHT AWAY OMG. |
| 20:11.20 | zenzelezz | so, Dubai may be short on money, but they sure have a lot of fireworks |
| 20:11.28 | Lunessa | And 90% of the time it's to press the "ON" button. |
| 20:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I was in her building for a meeting, she snagged me just as I was leaving. My boss cheerfully waved goodbye and watched me be dragged to my doom. Bastich. |
| 20:12.39 | Lunessa | Peppy: You has a chemistry department.... get sodium for his coffee. |
| 20:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm. I has the environmental safety officer indebted to me, she could slip me the closet keys! |
| 20:13.35 | alestane | I presume that's not just to salt it...does it explode? |
| 20:14.06 | foxlit | The whole first group is awesome when put in water. |
| 20:14.24 | Lunessa | Potassium even more so. |
| 20:14.28 | Lopeppeppy | "There's supposed to be an earth-shattering KA-BOOOOOM!" |
| 20:14.35 | alestane | I know Lithium reacts violently to moisture, |
| 20:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, potassium. |
| 20:14.56 | Lunessa | Need as pure as you can get. Don't touch it with bare hands. |
| 20:15.10 | foxlit | I think the further down you go, the bigger the effect there. |
| 20:15.16 | Lopeppeppy | oh hell no, tongs and gloves. |
| 20:15.53 | Lunessa | The most fun I ever had was wrapping a block of sodium in dry ice and cheesecloth then chucking the whole thing in a swimming pool. |
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| 20:15.56 | alestane | Lunessa: Given what even things like Lye do in skin moisture, I should think not. |
| 20:16.15 | alestane | That's an extremely "guy" experiment. |
| 20:16.50 | KarlKFI|work | sounds explosive |
| 20:16.53 | Lunessa | alestane: Emptied the pool in a huge fountain of water. AWESOME |
| 20:17.05 | Lopeppeppy | BOOOOOOM! |
| 20:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | giggles madly. She loves Lunessa! |
| 20:17.20 | alestane | One of my friends has a theory that every male human has, at some point in their life, attempted something insanely stupid involving fire or explosives. |
| 20:17.23 | Lunessa | Needed the dry ice and cheesecloth to make sure it got to the bottom before going BOOM |
| 20:17.35 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem. |
| 20:17.36 | alestane | He does not exclude females, he simply does not claim the universal. |
| 20:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | alestane. |
| 20:17.43 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. |
| 20:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause I could tell you stories about Peppy, a hammer and some shotgun shells. Or Peppy dressing the wounds from throwing .22 shells into a campfire. |
| 20:18.22 | KarlKFI|work | i get my 'insanely stupidness' out while playign video games |
| 20:18.24 | alestane | I did not say that no female has done such a thing. |
| 20:18.26 | KarlKFI|work | it's safer that way |
| 20:18.39 | Fisker | oh nos |
| 20:19.04 | durcyn | i can't imagine .22 shells in a campfire being anything but potentially lethal. how much alcohol was involved? |
| 20:19.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, some kegs here and there around the campsite. |
| 20:19.34 | Lopeppeppy | Hit him in the shoulder with 2, it wasn't that bad. Dug them out, disinfected, they healed nicely, not much of a scar. |
| 20:19.36 | alestane | I also think we may need to amend the list and add "electricity." |
| 20:20.00 | cog|work | bullets from campfires don't travel as quickly as bullets from guns |
| 20:20.12 | Fisker | durcynmen |
| 20:20.12 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. They were even pretty close to the surface, IIRC. |
| 20:20.15 | alestane | Not concentrated. |
| 20:21.01 | durcyn | yeah, uh, "dug them out" is enough for me to come down on the side of not doing that. |
| 20:21.07 | Legorol | imo shoulder is pretty close to head. if it could hit shoulder, it could've hit head. lucky escape |
| 20:21.11 | Legorol | not to mention lung or heart |
| 20:21.51 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't say the guy who tossed them in was smart. Lucky, yes he was. That anyone was willing to dig them out for him instead of sending him to the hospital. |
| 20:22.13 | alestane | Peppy: Shotgun shells, or slug rounds? |
| 20:22.44 | Lopeppeppy | slug rounds, very easy diggings. |
| 20:23.34 | alestane | Yeah, those would worry we some near the face, but shouldn't have done too grievous damage unless the hit an eye ... a dangerously easy possibility though. |
| 20:24.18 | NightHawkTheSane | there's enough major arteries in the neck/head that really anywhere in that area could have been fatal :P |
| 20:24.27 | Lopeppeppy | Stupid redneck boys, what can I say? But it looks awesome on my resume, "Field dressed a wound caused but .22 caliber ammunition" |
| 20:24.55 | durcyn | yeah, if you're applying for a gig on Jackass. |
| 20:25.07 | Lopeppeppy | Every resume has to have comic relief, durcyn. |
| 20:25.13 | Lopeppeppy | Works for Fear Factor too, I think. |
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| 20:27.18 | alestane | Given that the force expands in all directions outside a firing chamber, it *probably* wouldn't penetrate enough neck muscle to damage the carotid. I wouldn't bank on it though. |
| 20:27.43 | alestane | The eye and the throat are the nasty possibilities there in that they're a lot more likely. |
| 20:35.08 | Lunessa | http://graphjam.com/2009/12/28/funny-graphs-mountain-dew/ |
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| 20:37.10 | Vlakarados | lol:) |
| 20:41.37 | Lunessa | http://failblog.org/2009/12/29/roommate-fail/ |
| 20:48.07 | alestane | Roommate needs to die. |
| 20:48.25 | Lunessa | alestane: srsly |
| 20:49.48 | alestane | I think I'd be advertising "LCD TV and corpse: free to a discrete home that doesn't ask questions." |
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| 20:57.45 | Torhal | Discreet, in that case. |
| 20:57.53 | Torhal | Discrete is completely different. |
| 20:57.54 | alestane | True. |
| 20:57.57 | Torhal | Damnable English. |
| 20:58.07 | alestane | Otherwise you're looking for a home that's not attached to any other buildings. |
| 20:58.12 | Torhal | Yup! |
| 20:58.15 | kd3 | ah memories of jokes in high school |
| 20:58.25 | kd3 | 'so, we're talking about math that happens in a dark alley?' |
| 20:59.52 | zenzelezz | beware the math geeks that lurk in the cover of the dark, sneaking around the alleys, assaulting you with equations |
| 21:04.40 | Lunessa | http://textsfromlastnight.com/view/56648 |
| 21:08.11 | alestane | What exactly are "first response" posts supposed to communicate, other than "I have nothing better to do than monitor forums for new threads that might be somehow remarkable?" |
| 21:09.08 | zenzelezz | alestane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciG-Xs7mBwU |
| 21:09.37 | Lopeppeppy | "Look, I have less life than anyone else on this forum!" |
| 21:10.20 | alestane | "Little Johnny got his vert first 'first' response today. On this day, he is a man^H^H^Hgeek." |
| 21:12.25 | ZorbaTHut | alestane, everyone wants to be king of their domain |
| 21:12.36 | alestane | The iron law of institutions. |
| 21:12.38 | ZorbaTHut | some people just have very small domains, and no skills to become king of anything larger. |
| 21:16.36 | alestane | The smaller you keep your pond the bigger a fish you look like. |
| 21:16.38 | alestane | Wow, they made "Escort OOX-22/FE" way easier. |
| 21:16.59 | zenzelezz | oh? |
| 21:17.03 | Lopeppeppy | What did they change about it? |
| 21:17.08 | foxlit | Back in my day, we had to escort the chicken through Winterspring and back. |
| 21:17.15 | alestane | He takes off as soon as he makes it back to the road. |
| 21:17.31 | nevcairiel | thats like nothing |
| 21:17.32 | Lopeppeppy | It has sometimes had that glitch, alestane, you may have just gotten that. |
| 21:17.37 | nevcairiel | maybe one surprise spawn? |
| 21:17.39 | alestane | You used to have to get him all the way to the beach, through two more pulls. |
| 21:17.56 | alestane | nevcairiel: It was after one scripted spawn, almost right after. |
| 21:18.08 | alestane | I'll have to see what the hinterlands one takes, I have that beacon. |
| 21:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | Tanaris is the hardest one, if that one has changed, I'd be happy. |
| 21:18.52 | alestane | "No one challenges the Wastewander Nomads...not even robot chickens!: |
| 21:19.12 | Lopeppeppy | Bwock-bwock |
| 21:19.34 | zenzelezz | the turtle escort is the best one anyway, even if there's no scripted attacks |
| 21:19.46 | alestane | I haven't ogtten the Tanaris beacon yet on this toon, but I have more quests there. |
| 21:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | I like the turtle. He just follows you happily. End of story. |
| 21:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | Decent tank ring for druids, as I recall, from that quest. |
| 21:20.26 | alestane | And whines like an eight-year-old on a road trip. |
| 21:20.33 | zenzelezz | then he reaches the annoying mistress |
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| 21:22.11 | alestane | He's something of a "Whatever you say, dear" personality. |
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| 21:30.28 | Lopeppeppy | I go home now, bye! |
| 21:35.06 | Ackis | talks about Lopopeppy behind her back (fyi her name is hard to spell w/o tab complete!) |
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| 21:35.38 | Cairenn|afk | lope-p-peppy |
| 21:35.56 | alestane | The acknowledgments for the first edition of of WoW Programming include "Lopeppeppy, whose name I can finally spell from memory." |
| 21:36.13 | Ackis | heh |
| 21:37.37 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:44.36 | Shirik | Ok fun question about english |
| 21:45.00 | Shirik | Consider a phrase like "The actors' agents" |
| 21:45.14 | Shirik | now consider that the agent is the same for all actors |
| 21:45.25 | Shirik | Does this become "She acts as the actors' agents" or "She acts as the actors' agent" |
| 21:45.32 | kd3 | latter |
| 21:45.39 | Kalroth | yes, latter |
| 21:45.40 | foxlit | singular. |
| 21:45.46 | Shirik | seems odd, but ok |
| 21:45.53 | foxlit | Unless she pretends to be multiple agents. |
| 21:45.58 | Kalroth | She'll never be more than one agent regardless of her size |
| 21:46.00 | kd3 | the direct object doesn't play in to the state of the subject |
| 21:46.26 | kd3 | s/state/plurality/ |
| 21:46.31 | Shirik | Kalroth >< |
| 21:46.50 | kd3 | and yay! my new toys are here |
| 21:47.15 | Kalroth | put it this way; if you replace "the actors'" with "the secret", what sounds most correct! |
| 21:47.35 | Jerub | woooo hit |
| 21:47.40 | Jerub | 40k unbuffed health |
| 21:47.58 | foxlit | vote kick, boring me to death. |
| 21:48.01 | Kalroth | you finally gemmed your gear, eh?! |
| 21:49.37 | foxlit | I wonder if this abundance of stats makes 1 tank + 4 dps groups viable |
| 21:49.55 | Ackis | NBA Live 07 1000 people online at once achievement! http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199207 Spread the word! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ACHIEVEMENTS ARE GOD |
| 21:50.04 | Kalroth | uh, that's been viable for a while now, foxlit |
| 21:50.26 | Kalroth | when I go with guildies, we usually got a hybrid healing as dps spec |
| 21:50.38 | foxlit | Yeah, well, not what I meant. |
| 21:51.06 | Kalroth | if you mean tanking without any healing at all, then it'll be nearly impossible |
| 21:51.41 | foxlit | Only the healing the tank acn provide himself with. |
| 21:52.41 | Kalroth | so it'd be easy for a paladin tank and a blood death knight, mediocre for a feral druid, while pretty hard for a warrior |
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| 21:54.50 | alestane | Oh, this run is already looking like a cluster****, |
| 21:55.08 | invlio | hi, is it possible to query my target if it's a mob that i need to kill for a quest that i'm on? |
| 21:55.35 | PProvost | invlio: pretty sure you can |
| 21:55.45 | Kaso | the wdn zip for the 3.3 interface isnt complete, it misses the FrameXML |
| 21:55.58 | PProvost | lol |
| 21:57.05 | Kaso | also the zip file prob doesnt need to have /home/beladona/data/SVNCACHE/ subdirectories in it ;p |
| 21:57.31 | Kaso | s/wdn/wowcompares/ |
| 21:57.33 | wereHamster | Jerub: wow, 40k unbuffed? Can you link to your armory page? |
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| 21:59.48 | Kaso | ~framexml |
| 21:59.49 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 22:00.35 | Lunessa | So, I'm concerned that my health is low on my druid tank. Is 34K too low really? |
| 22:01.09 | alestane | For what content? |
| 22:02.42 | Lunessa | I'm looking at ToGC and ICC |
| 22:03.02 | alestane | Might be a bit low for that, although I don't think by much. |
| 22:03.02 | Lunessa | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&n=Wyldsong |
| 22:03.13 | Jerub | http://quickarmory.com/?n=brandi&r=Dath%27Remar |
| 22:04.39 | Jerub | Lunessa: you should consider getting the 245 crafted items and the 245 triumph emblem purchases |
| 22:04.45 | Jerub | and perhaps the frost cloak |
| 22:05.01 | Kaso | the "finished" sound for the offical addon kit scares me every time |
| 22:05.29 | Jerub | you've also got the wrong shoulder enchant, get the +stam+resil pvp one for 10k honor |
| 22:05.43 | Fisker | your items make no sense Lunessa :( |
| 22:05.55 | Jerub | ... and you have a +def gem in your hat. kill that. |
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| 22:06.16 | Lunessa | The +Def gem is satisfying my meta requirement. |
| 22:06.16 | Jerub | ... and you have a +def enchant on your head |
| 22:06.24 | Jerub | get a +10 all stats gem |
| 22:06.48 | Jerub | plus you have a yellow in your boots already. |
| 22:06.57 | Lunessa | I didn't last night. |
| 22:07.05 | Lunessa | :P |
| 22:07.07 | Jerub | kk |
| 22:07.21 | Fisker | you can't get a better head enchant anyways Lunessa |
| 22:07.23 | Fisker | err |
| 22:07.24 | Fisker | Jerub |
| 22:07.27 | Fisker | atleast i think you can't |
| 22:07.28 | Jerub | well, get the ebon blade head enchant, the honor shoulder enchant. |
| 22:07.32 | Lunessa | Fisker: I know. |
| 22:07.36 | foxlit | qq at Tyrannus |
| 22:07.54 | Jerub | ... okay, i'm an idiot, i have the same head enchant |
| 22:08.16 | Lunessa | Yeah. I knew it. :P |
| 22:08.23 | Fisker | anyways i'd just put +stam in everything |
| 22:08.31 | Fisker | except for the gem you need for the meta |
| 22:09.51 | Lunessa | The iLevel 200 crap is going to be replaces as soon as I can get some decent 200+ stuff to drop or come from some badge vendor. |
| 22:09.58 | Jerub | the 226 belt for EoC, the mask of lethal intent (EoT), the bracers of swift death (Crusader Orb/LW), and maybe the 245 shoulders |
| 22:10.23 | Ackis | Fisker: I am cold, warm me up. |
| 22:10.31 | Ackis | my wow gear is ilevel 9001 |
| 22:10.51 | Fisker | i am cold too Ackis |
| 22:11.02 | Fisker | mine is ilevel 1006 |
| 22:11.08 | Jerub | there are no feral belts between the 226 belts and 25toc |
| 22:11.20 | Ackis | methinks i'm done w/ wow for good now :( |
| 22:11.29 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z0Jbke0FCE#t=7m42s <-Ackis |
| 22:11.39 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, if you're planning to do progression raiding, you basically want to fill everything with stamina forever |
| 22:11.43 | ZorbaTHut | (with one nightmare tear for meta requirements) |
| 22:12.07 | Dagmar | Stamina: It's what keeps ya' alive |
| 22:12.12 | WobWork | crazy bear hp |
| 22:12.33 | ZorbaTHut | this is especially true in Icecrown, since Icecrown Radiance reduces the value of all forms of avoidance or non-guaranteed mitigation |
| 22:12.39 | Ackis | ~lart Fisker |
| 22:12.39 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of Fisker |
| 22:12.45 | Ackis | haha |
| 22:12.51 | foxlit | The moronic need to get their little NPC fight in there interferes with gameplay in unpredictable ways :/ |
| 22:13.05 | Dagmar | Could be worse |
| 22:13.19 | WobWork | foxlit: how's that? |
| 22:13.20 | Dagmar | Those slaves in the Pit of Saron *occasionally* blow someone a kiss. |
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| 22:13.47 | Dagmar | Three times now things have turned pear-shaped pugging that because someone was completeing the quest by freeing the slaves, and one blew a kiss at the tank |
| 22:14.22 | WobWork | spocks |
| 22:15.02 | alestane | Paper disproves Spock. |
| 22:15.18 | Fisker | You shall and always will be my friend WobWork |
| 22:15.24 | foxlit | WobWork: they included a bunch of alliance NPCs fighting a bunch of scourge NPCs during the final boss in PoS |
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| 22:15.50 | Lunessa | The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few Fisker. |
| 22:15.53 | Ackis | so, will CAT 6 cable be like faster than CAT 5e? |
| 22:16.05 | Dagmar | That one just makes things a little exciting when people forget to get the heck away from the mouth of the tunnel. |
| 22:16.06 | Fisker | why does RNG hate me? |
| 22:16.13 | Dagmar | Ackis: Only if you have Gigabit Ethernet NICs |
| 22:16.17 | Fisker | First Oculus on my pala, now Old Kingdom on my Rogue |
| 22:16.18 | alestane | CAT 6 supports gigabit. |
| 22:16.25 | Fisker | next will be Culling of Stratholme on my hunter : |
| 22:16.26 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:16.32 | Dagmar | Ackis: And even then it doesn't much matter since 5e can carry it |
| 22:16.32 | Jerub | CoS isn't so bad |
| 22:16.41 | foxlit | Now, it's a neat gesture, and might have even made a nice enrage timer (NPCs die, you get overrun) but the scourge NPCs have their own threat tables. |
| 22:16.42 | WobWork | Fisker: all those can be speed run (except CoS) |
| 22:16.44 | Jerub | we did CoS last night with our hunter using the pellet gun on boss #2 |
| 22:16.58 | Jerub | then i tried to kitty tank through the gauntlet and the dk kept pulling agro |
| 22:16.59 | foxlit | Which makes them occasionally decide to gank your healer. |
| 22:17.02 | Dagmar | foxlit: This is why you either stay out of their way, or help kill them |
| 22:17.02 | Fisker | you can do 1gbit on 5e |
| 22:17.17 | Dagmar | I think most groups would get a little upset about that tho |
| 22:17.26 | Jerub | so we ended up not tanking the drake boss and just burning him in dps mode, and then made the hunter's pet tank mal'gannis |
| 22:17.26 | WobWork | foxlit: I've never really had that problem, but I don't hang around the entrance of that cave during that fight |
| 22:17.37 | foxlit | I was about as far away from them as you can reasonably be |
| 22:17.38 | Ackis | yeah my goal is to upgrade to a gigabit router that's not a piece of shit |
| 22:17.47 | foxlit | i.e. they actually had to run like ~40 yards to be in casting range. |
| 22:17.51 | Jerub | then we appologised to the poor healer who it turned out was having a great laugh (4 of us were from the same guild) |
| 22:17.55 | Ackis | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17596 |
| 22:18.45 | Fisker | well the good thing about OK is that you can technically bypass 2 bosses, or maybe 3 |
| 22:18.46 | Dagmar | Ackis: Unless you're looking to spend large piles of money, don't expect a switch to have both wireless and significantly more than four ports on it |
| 22:18.57 | Fisker | but people don't do it anyways |
| 22:19.25 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, yeah, I've wiped thanks to the NPCs once or twice before :/ |
| 22:19.33 | Ackis | Dagmar: that's what I'm noticing so far :( |
| 22:19.45 | Dagmar | Ackis: Wireless isn't beating 100base-T anyway, plus it's generally not entirely reliable unless you live in a house away from other people |
| 22:20.19 | ZorbaTHut | also CoS is one of the worst instances solely because of the timer. it's right up there with VH. I hate them both >:( |
| 22:20.25 | Dagmar | Microwave ovens, cordless phones, pacemakers, they all interfere with it. Generally in the US the best you can hope to do is set the thing to channel 1 or 11 to avoid as much interference as you can |
| 22:20.38 | foxlit | CoS is ~30 minutes, though |
| 22:20.46 | Dagmar | ...but you can pick up a GigE switch with 8 ports for ~$50 easily |
| 22:20.49 | Ackis | Dagmar: my xbox 6 feet away from the router keeps DCing, the printer 2 feet away stays on, there's no external attena |
| 22:20.50 | foxlit | It's tolerable. |
| 22:21.01 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, I do most instances in 15 minutes :P |
| 22:21.27 | Jerub | Ackis: i use wrt54gls for conferences. |
| 22:21.28 | Dagmar | Ackis: Looks for something with actual external antennas |
| 22:21.32 | foxlit | Meh, I pug the daily heroic. |
| 22:21.41 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, so do I :) |
| 22:21.42 | Jerub | Ackis: 20-30 of them can serve 200 people easily. |
| 22:21.56 | Dagmar | The 54's are really quite solid |
| 22:22.11 | ZorbaTHut | I'm just good at judging the healer properly and have a lot of cooldowns I can pop if things go wrong, so I pretty much keep the group in combat constantly. |
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| 22:22.20 | Jerub | when i pug random heroics, i just say, "Welcome to the <namehere> express" selfbuff, and chainpull |
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| 22:22.27 | ZorbaTHut | 1 to 2 groups at a time depending on the healer |
| 22:22.52 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I've been using "okay I'm here to kill shit and chew bubblegum and blizzard hasn't implemented bubblegum, so let's get this done with fast" |
| 22:23.02 | Jerub | lol |
| 22:23.07 | Dagmar | I thought they did implement bubble gun |
| 22:23.10 | Dagmar | er gum |
| 22:23.14 | Jerub | I did VH today and told the healer to DPS |
| 22:23.19 | ZorbaTHut | I hope not, I'll have to change my catchphrase |
| 22:23.22 | Jerub | i think he healed sometimes. |
| 22:23.23 | Fisker | madness |
| 22:23.26 | Jerub | but mostly he dps'd. |
| 22:23.28 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I've been telling all competent healers to DPS |
| 22:23.34 | ZorbaTHut | a lot of them have just never thought of it |
| 22:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: yeah, i do that all the time on my healer. |
| 22:23.38 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly so i dont get bored |
| 22:23.39 | Dagmar | Interesting. I told a healer to stop DPSing last night |
| 22:23.45 | Lunessa | I've been using Apone's "We're going to go and get some" speech at the start of instances. |
| 22:23.52 | ZorbaTHut | had a "tree" hit #4 on the DPS meter last night :D |
| 22:23.53 | Dagmar | The fool kept running in on the undergeared DK and consecrating |
| 22:23.56 | Jerub | i have a macro, "/yell MELEE TREE" for when i get critically bored |
| 22:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | because i have, quite literally, fallen asleep while (not) healing an instance |
| 22:24.38 | Jerub | for the last boss of VH I popped my CDs and i don't think i did get any heals. |
| 22:24.38 | ZorbaTHut | I've got a holy priest friend who considers an instance a success if he can top the healing, overhealing, and damage meters simultaneously |
| 22:24.39 | Lunessa | "All right, sweethearts, you're a team and there's nothin' to worry about. We come here, and we gonna conquer, and we gonna kick some, is that understood? That's what we gonna do, sweethearts, we are going to go and get some." |
| 22:24.43 | foxlit | Meh, I prefer sleeping to my limited DPS options |
| 22:24.47 | Jerub | hard to dps AND heal for a 24 second fight |
| 22:24.52 | ZorbaTHut | he says it's rare, but it makes for a good challenge |
| 22:25.17 | foxlit | I can't imagine the first two offer any competition. |
| 22:25.21 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, during one guild application I ended up tanking HCoS with the guild leader |
| 22:25.24 | Jerub | then again, all bets are off for HoR |
| 22:25.38 | Dagmar | HoR, everybody better do everythign they possibly can |
| 22:25.38 | ZorbaTHut | we get up to Mal'Ganis and I'm in just slightly the wrong place |
| 22:25.40 | Dagmar | At once |
| 22:25.45 | Dagmar | At twice if you can pull that off |
| 22:25.47 | ZorbaTHut | the first thing he does is run over and one-shot crit the healer down |
| 22:26.08 | ZorbaTHut | had to tank that entire fight without a single heal. pulled it off! I'm not really sure if that was a plus or minus for my guild application, but I got in :D |
| 22:26.32 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: see above. we made the pet tank mal'gannis last night |
| 22:26.34 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, some classes have heals are part of their rotation (blood dk) and with how overgeared tanks are now, sometimes he actually has to be a little on top of things |
| 22:26.34 | Jerub | ;) |
| 22:26.55 | ZorbaTHut | it's rare, but occasional |
| 22:27.08 | Jerub | does holy have some good damage dealing? |
| 22:27.29 | ZorbaTHut | it's not good, but it's not as painful as, say, holy paladin or resto druid dps is |
| 22:27.32 | Jerub | i dunno what's wrong with my tree but he can't pull above 1200 DPS in instances :/ |
| 22:27.45 | Dagmar | Jerub: it's yer spec |
| 22:27.54 | Jerub | yeah, fair enough |
| 22:28.29 | ZorbaTHut | I stick with a standard healing spec and gear on my druid, I'd feel bad if I were hobbling my healing performance for higher positions on the meters |
| 22:28.35 | ZorbaTHut | sometimes I really do end up having to heal seriously |
| 22:28.40 | Jerub | the number of times i dps in OS10 and such |
| 22:28.41 | Jerub | :/ |
| 22:28.55 | ZorbaTHut | and I'd feel kind of like a douche if I botched that because I wanted to enlarge my e-peen. |
| 22:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: yeah, thats the big reason i'm hesitent to try healing in my ele gear/spec |
| 22:29.02 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: yeah, well, i heal for 25toc and such, and sometimes i have to MT heal |
| 22:29.07 | Jerub | which is uh,, challenging for me |
| 22:29.44 | Jerub | i want to try solo healing OS10 at some point tho |
| 22:30.03 | ZorbaTHut | I want to try raid healing, I've only done heroics |
| 22:30.14 | ZorbaTHut | but there's virtually no pug raiding scene on my server :/ |
| 22:30.18 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: really? that sucks. |
| 22:30.30 | ZorbaTHut | my server is consistently in the bottom twenty of all US servers |
| 22:30.30 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: just pug a badge run of OS10 or Naxx10 |
| 22:30.34 | ZorbaTHut | and I'm on the worst faction side of it |
| 22:30.37 | Dagmar | THe ones on my server like to ask for silly things like 6,000+ DPS |
| 22:30.50 | Jerub | on my server we ask for achievement |
| 22:30.59 | ZorbaTHut | there's one guild on my faction that's taken down htoc10, and none that have taken down htoc25. |
| 22:31.14 | Jerub | but that rule seems wonky. the other day someone advertised for icc25, and I just replied, "I don't have the achievement but I've wiped on every boss of icc10" |
| 22:31.19 | Dagmar | Probably not a bad idea Jerub, since if you've downed at least one boss in there you can't be too far off the mark |
| 22:31.22 | Jerub | and that was apparrently good enough for an invite. |
| 22:31.29 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, just link the achievement to them anyway |
| 22:31.31 | Kraps | lllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllll http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=137431 |
| 22:31.34 | ZorbaTHut | see if they notice you don't have it :D |
| 22:31.37 | Dagmar | Hehe yeah seeing them once is way better than going in cold |
| 22:31.49 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.21 | Kaso | Kraps thats pretty amusing |
| 22:32.52 | ZorbaTHut | hey looks like we took down FC 25h |
| 22:32.58 | ZorbaTHut | *forefront of raiding* |
| 22:33.27 | Fisker | omg |
| 22:33.44 | Fisker | i just saw on my rogue that i hadn't delivered my weekly yet |
| 22:33.52 | Fisker | which is nice considering it'll reset in a few hours |
| 22:33.52 | Fisker | :P |
| 22:34.30 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: realm transfer to somewhere nice. dath'remar. I have a guild of some nice aussies (and 1 american) who will make your mum jokes and raid 10toc with you, and a large pugging scene. |
| 22:34.34 | Jerub | :P |
| 22:34.42 | Dagmar | That thread is so full of stupid it should be a controlled substance |
| 22:34.44 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I would, but I have friends on my server |
| 22:34.59 | ZorbaTHut | if I were transferring I'd probably be going to mal'ganis horde and joining goonsquad :P |
| 22:35.21 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: why don't you sell your guild on the quest-helper site. "for $1000 we will transfer the QH developer and all his friends to your server" |
| 22:35.54 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, haha, I like that idea :D but it's not my guild, I'm just some schmuck in it |
| 22:36.07 | Fisker | xD Jerub and Kraps |
| 22:36.13 | Fisker | that guy doesn't know revenue from profit i guess |
| 22:36.29 | Jerub | kk, i'm heading out, see you later. |
| 22:36.57 | Fisker | Doesn't beat the guy who claimed that the armory app hacked his account though |
| 22:37.40 | Dagmar | Yay for ArgentSun finally putting a size nine boot onto that |
| 22:38.00 | foxlit | For all the bolding and underlining of "downloadable authentication program," I still don't see any explanation why he thinks a second software token would be of any benefit. |
| 22:38.56 | Dagmar | It's the brain damage. |
| 22:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | silly question, but is there any way to force keybindings to be local to a machine? |
| 22:39.36 | Kaso | he doesn't understand the concept of two factor authentication, which to be fair, is fair to understand |
| 22:40.05 | Dagmar | The malware guys trawling for players would just add a tiny hook to steal the keyring from any software authenticator on someone's desktop |
| 22:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | or, alternately: i want to have different bindings on my desktop than i have on my laptop, how can i do this? :) |
| 22:40.27 | Dagmar | Protecting that keyring with a password would be equally useless due to keylogging |
| 22:40.46 | foxlit | So you /have/ to use a device that you'll /never/ connect to your computer. |
| 22:40.49 | Kaso | NightHawkTheSane addons like bartender do keybindings within the addon i think, thus its local to you SV file |
| 22:41.10 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... |
| 22:41.10 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Use an addon that does your action bars, basically. |
| 22:41.10 | Fisker | your mom is a sv file |
| 22:41.10 | foxlit | Even iPhones are a bit meh -- I'm sure you could steal the magic data from iTunes backups. |
| 22:41.14 | Dagmar | Bartender, Macaroon, both of them support profiles you can switch back and forth with |
| 22:41.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, i guess i could do it with profiles. |
| 22:41.35 | foxlit | I thought you could turn off binding syncing |
| 22:41.55 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: As far as I can tell it's going to be the only way to do that |
| 22:42.09 | foxlit | Not the same thing as the contents of your action bars, however. What is it exactly that you wanted? |
| 22:42.10 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: not that i could see |
| 22:42.16 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: it's a cvar |
| 22:42.44 | NightHawkTheSane | To try to be more precise: i occasionally play wow on my laptop with a different mouse (that has different # of keys) from my desktp machine |
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| 22:43.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd like to have sane bindings for that without too much hassle |
| 22:43.36 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12665783572#1 |
| 22:43.52 | foxlit | Lunessa's quote seems to be what you want. |
| 22:44.08 | foxlit | Assuming those are blizzard bindings you're talking about. |
| 22:45.03 | Lunessa | Indeed, it is. |
| 22:45.17 | Fisker | trips Lunessa |
| 22:45.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll give it a look-see |
| 22:45.37 | Lunessa | Re-reading my Sticky makes me /boggle. Seriously people, how hard can we make this shit? |
| 22:57.48 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/polls/your-level-of-respect-for-wow-classes-by-archetype/ |
| 22:58.12 | foxlit | ckknight is out to kill us with radio buttons. |
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| 23:02.54 | Dagmar | I learned last night that it's not necessarily a good thing to be quick with the get-out-of-root trinkets and abilities |
| 23:04.03 | Dagmar | Because I popped out of the stun so quick the first time, the second time the Maiden of Greif just strode over and put a death oreo on me and a smackdown |
| 23:04.46 | DWSR | Adobe After Effects is for movie editing, correct? |
| 23:04.52 | Dagmar | In theory |
| 23:05.00 | DWSR | "in theory"? |
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| 23:05.28 | alestane | It's mostly for masking and effects from what I recall of it. Premiere is for straight footage editing. |
| 23:05.37 | Dagmar | I thought it was for post-processing and gussying-up |
| 23:05.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa, foxlit: ah, that looks exactly like what i want, thank you. :) |
| 23:05.50 | Dagmar | That you can edit videos just seems to be something they threw in |
| 23:06.45 | ScytheBlade1 | the PA videos are pretty good |
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| 23:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hearing them mess around to make comics, and realizing how much money they make for this, is amusing |
| 23:08.22 | Fisker | ok this was just sad |
| 23:08.35 | Fisker | Was in UP and this shaman first died on the blue fire @ skadi |
| 23:08.40 | Fisker | then he ankhed in the blue fire |
| 23:08.46 | Fisker | then he accepted a res from the priest in the blue fire |
| 23:08.47 | Fisker | ... |
| 23:08.55 | foxlit | that blue stuff is not a fire. |
| 23:08.58 | Fisker | whatever |
| 23:08.59 | foxlit | Have a good day. |
| 23:09.00 | Fisker | your mom |
| 23:09.11 | Fisker | looks like blue fire = is blue fire |
| 23:09.15 | Fisker | good morning |
| 23:11.17 | Vlakarados | ckknight what is melee hunter? |
| 23:11.29 | ckknight | a horrible choice. |
| 23:11.34 | Lunessa | g'night channel. Good job. I'll probably kill you in the morning. |
| 23:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds good to me |
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| 23:24.27 | Dagmar | Oh awesome: http://failblog.org/2009/12/30/bulletin-board-win-2/ |
| 23:30.57 | Cide | speaking of awesome: http://existenz.se/out.php?id=19665 |
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| 23:35.04 | Fisker | it's cold Cide |
| 23:35.06 | Fisker | goodnight |
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| 23:44.00 | kd3 | grr |
| 23:50.47 | bleeter | http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/05/2785561.htm |
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