| 00:00.50 | _rane | Lopeppeppy: it's a bug in WoW |
| 00:00.59 | _rane | according to Mikord |
| 00:01.09 | cbreak | I had that too mascondante |
| 00:01.15 | cbreak | it was fixed by relogging |
| 00:01.21 | cbreak | not sure what caused it |
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| 00:03.27 | _rane | so annoying |
| 00:07.16 | mascondante | cbreak: worked. Thank you :-) |
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| 00:13.46 | cbreak | good :) |
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| 00:29.00 | mascondante | Oh and a note. The cartographer update that's supposed to make it 3.3 compliant... doesn't. |
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| 00:30.15 | mikma | mascondante: that's mostly because the original author is a dick |
| 00:30.47 | Antiarc | Why are people still using Cart? |
| 00:31.01 | Antiarc | AFAIK one of the people working on it flat-out said "welp, it's done, use Mapster"the |
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| 00:31.34 | Dagmar | he needs to put in one more update. |
| 00:31.57 | Stanzilla | hm Antiarc do you know that /tt in chatter does not work with crossrealm people? |
| 00:32.02 | Dagmar | one that waits about 30 seconds after login and then puts blue raid-warning text up that says "Please switch to Mapster already. Cartographer is dead." |
| 00:32.19 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: I know, you can't whisper crossrealm people in any way |
| 00:32.27 | Antiarc | That's a Blizzard bug, and a damned annoying one |
| 00:32.28 | Dagmar | Whether or not this text ever goes away can be decided by ab RNG |
| 00:32.39 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: hm ok :/ |
| 00:32.55 | mascondante | gah fine I'll switch =p |
| 00:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone know how to query group membership with LDAP? |
| 00:33.28 | ScytheBlade1 | namely AD |
| 00:33.56 | ScytheBlade1 | given user X, enumerate all groups |
| 00:34.17 | Antiarc | ok my recount stuffed up i got a thing saying blizz ui broke my recount (its a old one) saying to deatahve it or ingore it (i dont know where to put this and i carnt see my kayborad well so forgive my spelling |
| 00:34.18 | Antiarc | this is epic. |
| 00:34.27 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22048467434&sid=1 |
| 00:35.15 | WobWork | I can't see my keyboard well? |
| 00:35.23 | WobWork | what... is it in another room? |
| 00:36.04 | WobWork | Antiarc: at least he's blaming blizzard for breaking recount, instead of the other way around =) |
| 00:36.59 | mascondante | ScytheBlade1: look into using active roles. It's tasty. http://www.quest.com/activeroles-server/ |
| 00:37.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah without extra scripts/addins |
| 00:37.27 | mascondante | I should know. |
| 00:37.39 | mascondante | I sold my windows server book back x_x |
| 00:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I cannot use those |
| 00:38.47 | WobWork | I need an epic keyboard cat youtube video |
| 00:38.55 | WobWork | to insert as an easter egg to this website =P |
| 00:39.34 | WobWork | hum Mirror's Edge worth $5? |
| 00:39.55 | mascondante | ScytheBlade1: This may help: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996205%28EXCHG.65%29.aspx |
| 00:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm already using (&(objectClass=Group)(member=CN=UserName)) |
| 00:42.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't seem to do what I want |
| 00:47.26 | ZorbaTHut | it's kind of funny that you said "hum Mirror's Edge worth $5?" and I immediately thought "aha, must be on steam, that's probably a good deal I'll go grab it" |
| 00:47.37 | ZorbaTHut | it literally did not occur to me that you could be buying a game for cheap anywhere besides Steam |
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| 00:51.00 | Pneumatus | GTA4 for a couple more dollars |
| 00:53.13 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: We've been indoctrinated =P |
| 00:53.30 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: Machinarium is a good deal |
| 00:54.09 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I already got that one :) |
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| 01:03.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, looks like win7 and 2k8 got a decent LDAP query tool |
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| 01:04.10 | Dagmar | Well, let's welcome them to 2001 then. |
| 01:04.26 | Dagmar | ...and that's being generous. |
| 01:04.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno, I have yet to find a decent LDAP GUI browser/query tool |
| 01:05.18 | Dagmar | http://ldaptool.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, the two most recent updates to that were 2007 and... 2003. |
| 01:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | plus it isn't packaged by any distro I can find |
| 01:09.04 | Dagmar | I somehow suspect that the ancient nature of LDAP means that not too many updates are going to be required until there's another serious GTK+ API change |
| 01:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | wow AD and standard posix schema is different |
| 01:26.41 | Dagmar | That's because one of these was developed by Microsoft |
| 01:28.23 | Dagmar | Why follow an existing, tested, well-known and publicly known spec when you can make up your own stuff and sell attendance to classes in the differences? |
| 01:29.19 | foxlit | Why indeed. |
| 01:46.28 | Dagmar | Actually, I'm not sure there's anything Microsoft has ever touched tha they didn't "customize" in some vaguely nauseating way. |
| 01:52.00 | Shirik | Polarina: What are you smoking |
| 01:52.42 | Shirik | wtf is with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Shirik/CollabRC&action=historysubmit&diff=333173697&oldid=332716860 |
| 01:52.46 | Shirik | It's not even an article |
| 01:55.01 | Shirik | Any chinese people about? ãSTUASãwhat are those symbols? |
| 01:55.12 | Shirik | looks almost like [ and ( combined together |
| 01:55.27 | Dagmar | Welcome to the wonderful world of psychotic WP editorship |
| 01:55.31 | Shirik | it's also on random chinese: ãæ³¢é³ã |
| 01:55.48 | Shirik | do chinese have some way of marking a name? |
| 02:23.52 | p3lim | Is there any API to get the location of a unit? |
| 02:25.17 | Shirik | party/raid yes |
| 02:25.33 | Shirik | !api mapposition |
| 02:25.34 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'mapposition': GetPlayerMapPosition, GetCorpseMapPosition |
| 02:25.48 | Shirik | don't let the first fool you, iirc it takes a unit as a parameter |
| 02:25.51 | Shirik | !api getplayermapposition |
| 02:25.52 | lua_bot | GetPlayerMapPosition: Returns the position of the player's corpse on the world map (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetPlayerMapPosition) |
| 02:29.56 | p3lim | thanks Shirik |
| 02:30.16 | p3lim | that is coordinates though |
| 02:30.35 | p3lim | I'd like zone |
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| 02:31.15 | p3lim | Like in the tooltip. I'd scan that for info but it follows no pattern |
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| 02:33.34 | kaiden | quick question for you gents, is there anyway in game to print the location of the texture that my mouse is focused on? |
| 02:35.30 | mikma | most likely |
| 02:35.43 | mikma | install spew and do /spew mouse |
| 02:35.46 | mikma | hehee |
| 02:36.45 | p3lim | doesnt framestack cover it? |
| 02:38.52 | kaiden | i'm just trying to find the location of the texture that PowerAuras uses for the X on it's selector Template |
| 02:39.06 | kaiden | it has a check and an X for it's checkboxes :P and i like that for an aura i want to show |
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| 02:41.15 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.34 | kaiden | sadly neither framestack nor spew works |
| 02:42.02 | kaiden | they dont show texture locations only frame names |
| 02:44.51 | kd3 | then that's a good place to start? look for the frame in the lua/xml and figure out what textures it's using? |
| 02:45.37 | kaiden | really? had no idea that's what i was trying to do :P... been trying there's just a lot of data here that inherits from other built in xml |
| 02:45.42 | kaiden | so i dont know what texture it's using |
| 02:45.45 | kaiden | i'll figure it out |
| 02:52.56 | Adys | Shirik: those are chevrons |
| 02:53.24 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Angle_brackets.2C_diamond_brackets_or_chevrons_.E2.8C.A9.C2.A0.E2.8C.AA |
| 02:59.23 | Shirik | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/epic-fail-wording-fail.jpg |
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| 03:19.22 | Wobin | hm |
| 03:19.26 | Wobin | Karate Kid reboot |
| 03:19.30 | Wobin | wrrrrrry? |
| 03:25.42 | kd3 | because hollywood loves destroying our childhoods? |
| 03:27.00 | Shirik | kd3 is destroying my childhood |
| 03:27.21 | kd3 | and having a hell of a lot of fun doing it |
| 03:27.36 | Shirik | you are a meanie |
| 03:40.28 | Dagmar | Now, now... |
| 03:40.47 | Dagmar | Be patient and Tron 2.0 will come out and then we can all have a good angst-fest about it |
| 03:49.52 | Arrowmaster | first, its not tron 2.0, that has already been done, it was a video game |
| 03:50.05 | Arrowmaster | second, THERE WILL BE NO ANGST OVER TRON LEGACY! |
| 03:50.14 | Arrowmaster | IT MUST BE EPIC! |
| 03:51.00 | Arrowmaster | fuck with those newly rendered lightcycles its already fucking epic |
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| 03:52.13 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: calm down, expect it to be the worst garbage ever made, that way, it can only be good. |
| 03:52.52 | Arrowmaster | hugs his 20th anniversary tron dvd special edition |
| 03:53.41 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.11 | Dagmar | ...and I'm still glad they never made any more Matrix movies after the one. |
| 03:54.24 | kd3 | no kidding |
| 03:54.35 | Dagmar | Line 59. |
| 03:54.39 | Dagmar | whoops |
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| 04:18.13 | frontendloader | anyone possibly familiar with arkinventory mind getting peppered with a few questions? |
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| 04:18.47 | frontendloader | I'm trying to find a function that I could use that would return the number of an item across all characters |
| 04:18.59 | frontendloader | as in quantity |
| 04:20.33 | Cruciformer | morning all |
| 04:22.06 | Cruciformer | anyone know if (and if so, how) vim supports Unicode editing? Im using the windows gvim if that makes a difference. |
| 04:23.53 | Iriel | Cruciformer: I have no idea myself. |
| 04:24.24 | Cruciformer | Iriel: k .. off to google I go :) I figured I'd ask the mini-google braintrust in here first :) |
| 04:24.30 | frontendloader | I suppose it is just easier to use my own item DB in my own addon then :/ |
| 04:24.51 | Iriel | to count items across characters/ |
| 04:24.52 | Iriel | ? |
| 04:24.59 | Cruciformer | Iriel: Oh and while I have your attention, ty so much for devtools ... what a lifesaver. |
| 04:25.17 | frontendloader | Iriel: yes, my two banks and I really only need to know about glyphs |
| 04:25.36 | frontendloader | ark's main scriptfile is 7k lines |
| 04:25.46 | frontendloader | and is mostly uncommented :( |
| 04:26.08 | Iriel | You would indeed have to either maintain that yourself or reverse engineer another addon that stores it. |
| 04:26.30 | frontendloader | I couldn't get a bearing on anything to try to trace my way to the function that gets the number of items across all characters |
| 04:26.44 | frontendloader | I was trying to rev engineer arkinventory |
| 04:26.46 | Torhal | frontendloader: BankItems, Altoholic, Bagnon_Forever, those are a few that do what you want |
| 04:27.03 | Torhal | Though Altoholic is a behemoth compared to the other two. |
| 04:27.05 | frontendloader | I can see easily how the data is structured in the sv |
| 04:27.21 | Cruciformer | also try onestorage or whatever the underlying framework of onebag is, i think thats almost a library rather than a mod. |
| 04:27.24 | Iriel | Well, just ht the SV directly? |
| 04:27.48 | frontendloader | It is possible to do that then? |
| 04:27.58 | frontendloader | I thought I couldn't touch another addon's sv from my own |
| 04:28.07 | Iriel | SV tables are global |
| 04:28.15 | Iriel | As long as the addon is loaded you can see it |
| 04:28.29 | frontendloader | oh, not bad then |
| 04:29.29 | Cruciformer | Anyone in here fluent in german that could spare some time completing a translation that a user half-did for me? I'd be very grateful. |
| 04:40.01 | Shirik | 1>Running 15 tests..............Project : error PRJ0019: A tool returned an error code from "Executing unit tests..." |
| 04:40.05 | Shirik | ..... how incredibly useful |
| 04:40.13 | Shirik | stabs the test framework |
| 04:42.36 | Iriel | I love "something failed" messages |
| 04:43.05 | Cruciformer | makes me thing: something failed alright - the developer |
| 04:43.12 | Cruciformer | s /thing/think/ |
| 04:43.53 | Cruciformer | Iriel: If you're interested, teh answer to my vim question was: set encoding=utf-8 and :set bomb |
| 04:45.09 | Iriel | bomb? |
| 04:45.25 | Iriel | is that a byte order mark pun? |
| 04:45.40 | Xinhuan | jnwhiteh are you around? |
| 04:45.49 | jnwhiteh | vaguely, whats up Sir? |
| 04:45.57 | Xinhuan | there's a "bug" in addonloader |
| 04:46.00 | Xinhuan | sort of |
| 04:46.04 | jnwhiteh | whats happening? |
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| 04:46.29 | Xinhuan | lets say i have an addon, and make it load on crafting UI via addonloader or by slash command |
| 04:46.30 | Cruciformer | Not sure its meant to be a pun, just coincidental. I think there are other :set bomX things you can set. bomb is just one of them. Thats what Ive gathered so far. |
| 04:46.41 | Xinhuan | so addonloader registers the slash command from the toc |
| 04:47.16 | Xinhuan | if i then load the addon by opening the craft UI, and then type the shorter of 2 slash commands, it still uses the addonloader's version which nils out the slash command |
| 04:47.25 | Xinhuan | rendering my addon slash commandless |
| 04:47.41 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 04:47.46 | jnwhiteh | LightHeaded gets around this |
| 04:47.58 | Xinhuan | i got around it by niling out addonloader's version |
| 04:48.33 | jnwhiteh | yes this is what I do as well |
| 04:48.43 | Xinhuan | that is, if you register /lh and /lightheaded, addonloader would register SLASH_LH1 which i have to nil manually |
| 04:49.08 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 04:49.17 | jnwhiteh | precisely |
| 04:49.17 | Xinhuan | shouldn't addonloader nil out its own registration when it loads an addon using other triggers? |
| 04:49.34 | jnwhiteh | if we clearly define the behavior, probably yes. |
| 04:49.39 | Arrowmaster | why isnt the shorter one being overwritten by the addon? |
| 04:49.42 | jnwhiteh | but its a bit tricky |
| 04:49.51 | Xinhuan | because Arrowmaster, suppose you do this |
| 04:50.06 | Xinhuan | SLASH_LIGHTHEADED1 = /lh |
| 04:50.06 | jnwhiteh | the addon is the only one who knows what NEEDS to happen. |
| 04:50.06 | Xinhuan | SLASH_LIGHTHEADED2 = /lightheaded |
| 04:50.06 | Iriel | Addon loader would need to check it was still the registered closure but thatshouldnt' be too hard |
| 04:50.13 | Xinhuan | addonloader registers SLASH_LH1 |
| 04:50.20 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 04:50.20 | Xinhuan | and SLASH_LIGHTHEADED1 |
| 04:50.31 | Xinhuan | so /lh ends up still being addonloader's version |
| 04:50.36 | Xinhuan | which when used nils out both |
| 04:50.52 | Arrowmaster | why does it nil out both? |
| 04:51.05 | Xinhuan | addonloader nils out both its registration then calls LOADADDON() |
| 04:51.10 | Xinhuan | but your addon is already loaded |
| 04:51.15 | Xinhuan | by a second addonloader trigger |
| 04:51.21 | Arrowmaster | but only does that when the slash command is used? |
| 04:51.25 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 04:51.32 | Arrowmaster | and not when another method does it? |
| 04:51.36 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 04:51.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats a bug |
| 04:51.53 | Arrowmaster | just copy whatever the slash command handler does over to the rest of the methods |
| 04:51.55 | Xinhuan | normally /lh will nil out its own registration, then the addon loads and registers |
| 04:52.00 | Xinhuan | its correct ones |
| 04:52.20 | Xinhuan | but addonloader loading via other triggers doesn't nil out its own registration - only when you trigger it via slash commands |
| 04:52.42 | Iriel | I'm with Xinhuan on this one |
| 04:52.49 | jnwhiteh | ah makes sense now |
| 04:52.51 | Iriel | (i.e. I think it's a bug, or at least, design flaw) |
| 04:52.56 | jnwhiteh | Iriel: I'm not (not) with him |
| 04:53.01 | jnwhiteh | I just didn't quite understand the probelm |
| 04:53.35 | Arrowmaster | design/implementation flaw |
| 04:53.36 | jnwhiteh | when an addon registers a slash handler with AddonLoader.. it should track the closures it creates, and then when the addon loads via any means, it checks to see if they are still the sety ones, and removes them. |
| 04:53.45 | Xinhuan | yup |
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| 04:54.49 | Xinhuan | to reword the problem, addonloader registers SLASH_LH1 and SLASH_LIGHTHEADED1, you load lh via some other trigger, lh loads and registers SLASH_LIGHTHEADED1 and SLASH_LIGHTHEADED2, but after this using /lh will use SLASH_LH1, which causes addonloader to nil out SLASH_LH1 and SLASH_LIGHTHEADED1 |
| 04:55.25 | Kraps | i was at a nj nets game, lol |
| 04:56.14 | Xinhuan | so only SLASH_LIGHTHEADED2 remains, and renders the addon having no slash commands |
| 04:56.19 | Xinhuan | that's as best as i can put it i think |
| 04:56.44 | jnwhiteh | i'm working on it |
| 04:57.00 | Iriel | Actually, since it's just clearing up the cache, it doesn't technically need to check they're the ones it created, it just needs to remember which SLASH_*'s it might have set for that addon |
| 04:57.24 | A-KO | damnit, does anyone remember that elemental shaman popping dual trinkets back in the day and made a video out of it? |
| 04:57.44 | Iriel | ASsuming the problem is the cache (is it?) |
| 04:58.25 | jnwhiteh | i dont have a chance to look at it now |
| 04:58.29 | jnwhiteh | i'm too tired |
| 04:58.46 | Xinhuan | addonloader uses a closure for slash commands it registers |
| 04:58.51 | jnwhiteh | yes, correct. |
| 04:59.00 | Xinhuan | which isn't accessible from other triggers that load the addon |
| 04:59.06 | Xinhuan | so that has to be changed, that's all |
| 04:59.09 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 04:59.22 | jnwhiteh | you're assuming only AL triggers can cause the addon to be loaded |
| 04:59.32 | jnwhiteh | and from my understanding, loading the addon manually can still mess thing sup. |
| 04:59.40 | Xinhuan | well yes, i'm assuming that |
| 04:59.42 | jnwhiteh | it needs to be abstracted out |
| 04:59.45 | jnwhiteh | well that's a bad assumption |
| 05:00.03 | jnwhiteh | we need to shove the closures somewhere in the AddonLoader table. |
| 05:00.30 | jnwhiteh | and the in the OnEvent for ADDON_LOADED, adn the :LoadAddon() method, unregister them. |
| 05:00.35 | Iriel | And do the 'cleanup' both pre-addon-load (if loading explicitly) and on the ADDON_LOADED event 8-) |
| 05:00.37 | Iriel | heh |
| 05:00.37 | Arrowmaster | i just started a game demo and the loading screen tip said "Gather the limbs of your fallen enemies: they can be used to improve your creature".... |
| 05:00.41 | jnwhiteh | I believe that's the correct behaviore. |
| 05:00.57 | Xinhuan | you can't exactly do that because if ADDON_LOADED fires for the target addon, it may have already registered its slash commands, and you may nil it out |
| 05:01.07 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 05:01.09 | jnwhiteh | the cleanup checks |
| 05:01.14 | Xinhuan | unless you check if the function reference matches i suppose... |
| 05:01.17 | jnwhiteh | its not a direct niling out |
| 05:01.17 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 05:01.19 | jnwhiteh | it would be stupid not to =) |
| 05:01.47 | Xinhuan | well that would work then |
| 05:02.00 | Xinhuan | and it'll be a clean solution too |
| 05:02.00 | jnwhiteh | gimme 2 min |
| 05:03.02 | Shadowed | This sounds like an issue I complained about a few months ago when I started playing with AL and [Ammo] said it was intended :< |
| 05:04.07 | jnwhiteh | Iriel: i'm not very familiar with the cache |
| 05:04.14 | jnwhiteh | what/how should i check that i own the current slash handler> |
| 05:04.15 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 05:04.37 | Iriel | I suspect the cache is less of an issue in this case, but it might be a problem if your addon DID do the load |
| 05:04.38 | jnwhiteh | there's SlashCmdList and hash_SlashCmdList? |
| 05:04.48 | Iriel | something like thatm, let me check the name |
| 05:05.10 | Xinhuan | hash_SlashCmdList is like a blizzard internal hash |
| 05:05.13 | jnwhiteh | those are correct |
| 05:05.14 | Iriel | that's the one, yes |
| 05:05.17 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: that we have access to =) |
| 05:05.19 | Xinhuan | you'll have to see the framexml for that one |
| 05:05.42 | Iriel | It ends up keyed by the slash command with the resolved function as the value |
| 05:06.02 | Xinhuan | i forgot what it does already, and technically, i doubt a hash is needed because.. how often do users type slash commands? lol |
| 05:06.06 | Iriel | so you need to nil out the entries placed there by the loader otherwise they may be remembered too long |
| 05:06.20 | Shadowed | It's just used to save a reference so it doesn't have to search again if I recall |
| 05:06.20 | Iriel | it auto-populates on 'hits' |
| 05:06.43 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 05:06.52 | Iriel | I believe it helps quite a bit because users dont use many slash commands, but frequently use the same ones MANY MANY times (think macros) |
| 05:07.01 | Xinhuan | aha macros |
| 05:07.02 | Shadowed | Does it actually cache macros? |
| 05:07.09 | Xinhuan | probably does |
| 05:07.20 | Iriel | it caches slash commands |
| 05:07.27 | Iriel | and macros use slash commands |
| 05:08.24 | Shadowed | It only sets the hash if the slash command calls ChatEdit_ParseText, macros don't call that when they are executed through a button click, do they? |
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| 05:08.37 | Iriel | sure they do |
| 05:09.14 | Shadowed | But that would mean to execute a macro via button click, it would have to editBox:SetText() then call ChatEdit_ParseText |
| 05:09.46 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.47 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.47 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.48 | Iriel | etc |
| 05:09.52 | Iriel | Check it out |
| 05:10.11 | Shadowed | oh wow |
| 05:10.25 | Shadowed | I didn't realize that macros were executed like that, I figured they would just use some internal system that was speedy-er |
| 05:10.52 | Iriel | this is simpler, and slouken liked simple |
| 05:10.57 | Shadowed | true |
| 05:11.05 | Iriel | Otherwise they'd have to write the whole slash command parser AGAIN in C++ |
| 05:11.26 | Xinhuan | chuckle |
| 05:11.38 | kd3 | and it's (hopefully) not like we're doing slash commands every frame... |
| 05:11.47 | Xinhuan | in any case, a user spamming a macro button is still a "sparse" event in computer terms |
| 05:11.58 | Iriel | right, and let's not forget, lua is DAMN FAST |
| 05:13.15 | Shadowed | That would probably explain why I had someone complaining that an invalid macro would cause lag when spammed |
| 05:13.23 | Shadowed | (Granted they were stupid, but still) |
| 05:15.19 | Xinhuan | lol... |
| 05:15.26 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: AddonLoader.lua: http://pastey.net/130593 |
| 05:15.32 | Shadowed | Yea that was a bit sad |
| 05:15.43 | Shadowed | "When I spam this invalid macro that spams 'This is an invalid macro' the game slows down, this is a valid test case." |
| 05:15.53 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: Conditions.lua: http://pastey.net/130594 |
| 05:16.02 | jnwhiteh | want to test that out? |
| 05:16.15 | jnwhiteh | its very much drycoded. |
| 05:16.45 | Xinhuan | probably not now |
| 05:17.08 | Xinhuan | was just about to head to bed and decided to see if you were around |
| 05:17.37 | jnwhiteh | no its no problem |
| 05:17.43 | jnwhiteh | just saying, that's a drycoded "solution" |
| 05:18.03 | jnwhiteh | for anyone who wants to review or test :P |
| 05:19.35 | Cruciformer | If I have a Lua file thats got escapes like \195 or \182 etc, now that I figured out how to turn the file into utf-8, how can I convert those to actual characters rather than escapes? vim doesnt seem to let me hold down Alt an type the number of the numpad. |
| 05:19.59 | Cruciformer | *on the numpad |
| 05:21.25 | Iriel | Cruciformer: Note that if you DO convert them, that doesn't make the file as easy to work with for folks who dont have a UTF-8 setup |
| 05:22.00 | Xinhuan | unlikely, even windows notepad can open and save utf8 files |
| 05:22.15 | Cruciformer | Iriel: this is a locale-specific mymod-deDE.lua file. Is it a reasonable expectation that an average German user would be able to enter those funny characters? |
| 05:22.22 | jnwhiteh | Mönkeys. |
| 05:22.47 | Gnarfoz | Cruciformer: localisers who can't figure that out should... figure that out |
| 05:23.14 | Gnarfoz | and yes, every german user should be able to enter the german umlauts =) |
| 05:23.21 | Cruciformer | Gnarfoz: I was kinda of the same mind but I am new to this not-english thing (how terribly provincial of me). |
| 05:24.03 | Gnarfoz | argh, why do people have to buy my Glyphs at this hour, I want to stop restocking the AH and get some sleep :P |
| 05:25.07 | Cruciformer | Iriel: I thought I was making it easier for them by converting it so a german reading the file will see his umlauts and funky B-thats-an-S etc hen reading teh strings. Is that not the case/ |
| 05:25.30 | Cruciformer | hen=when. god I wish I could like ... type or something :P |
| 05:25.53 | Iriel | Cruciformer: thats PROBABLY the case (easlier) if it's for a non-english locale only |
| 05:26.03 | jnwhiteh | Ã |
| 05:26.14 | Cruciformer | yeah that thing jnwhiteh :) |
| 05:26.19 | Iriel | do make sure any scripted file processing you have for addon files is UTF-8 aware 8-) |
| 05:26.56 | Cruciformer | yeah arrowmaster helped me quite a bit with that ... like the funky-ass regexp for capitalising a word. |
| 05:26.57 | jnwhiteh | goodnight everyone! |
| 05:27.05 | Cruciformer | night jnwhiteh ... sleep well. |
| 05:33.57 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: gnight birthday boy ;) |
| 05:34.33 | Shirik | Anyone know classical music? This song is based off a well-known piano piece. Anyone know what it is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1H4TsKIjTc&feature=related |
| 05:34.58 | Shirik | The well-known part starts around 0:35 |
| 05:36.04 | Shirik | .... I love my compiler. It gives me the error, and then it gives me hints as to the cause. So we see: |
| 05:36.13 | Shirik | 1>TestOperations.h(37) : error C2228: left of '.Compute' must have class/struct/union |
| 05:36.22 | bleeter | Shirik: Sonata Patetique |
| 05:36.23 | Shirik | Then it tries to help me... |
| 05:36.24 | Cruciformer | not ringing any bells for me shirik |
| 05:36.25 | Shirik | 1> type is ''unknown-type'' |
| 05:36.32 | bleeter | *Pathetique |
| 05:36.35 | Shirik | Is it really necessary to say those kinds of hints? -_- |
| 05:36.50 | Shirik | I love you bleeter |
| 05:38.47 | bleeter | Shirik: I double checked via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beethoven%27s_Last_Night |
| 05:39.09 | Shirik | ... oh |
| 05:39.57 | bleeter | I was all 'that kinda sounds a bit like Pathetique' |
| 05:40.14 | bleeter | I'm a bit of a Beethoven 'fan'... even tho Mahler was more my thing |
| 05:40.20 | bleeter | I still had to check somehow |
| 05:40.44 | Cruciformer | Ima rachmaninov man myself |
| 05:40.45 | bleeter | useles factoid #2348957394857389452135 Beethoven shares a birthday with jnwhiteh and myself |
| 05:41.00 | bleeter | *his birthday |
| 05:41.30 | Shirik | I never really did get into piano pieces |
| 05:41.31 | Cruciformer | 17 dec? |
| 05:41.44 | Shirik | and beethoven didn't do all that much orchestral work. He did some, but nowhere near as many as a lot of others |
| 05:42.21 | Shirik | hadyn was awesome |
| 05:42.41 | Cruciformer | I have an absolutely awesome cd of rachmaninov playing rachmaninov, made from ampico recordings. That guy was an absolutely amazing peformer, aside from his compositions. |
| 05:42.49 | bleeter | Shirik: sure he didn't do much.. but what he did do...! |
| 05:42.56 | Shirik | oh totally agree |
| 05:43.07 | bleeter | 9th's one of the great pieces of art, ever. |
| 05:44.00 | Cruciformer | all this talk of classical is making me wanna listen to carmina burana ... I absolutely love that for easy listening |
| 05:45.01 | bleeter | haha |
| 05:45.14 | bleeter | know what you mean, I just made a playlist of Bernstein doing the 9th |
| 05:45.32 | Zhinjio | WOOT! |
| 05:45.55 | Shirik | 9th is OK but I think it's overrated |
| 05:46.07 | Shirik | played it, it's interesting, but I think there's better |
| 05:46.50 | Shirik | it was too easy imo :/ |
| 05:46.54 | bleeter | mmm maybe. Playing 1812 was more fun. |
| 05:47.04 | Cruciformer | ah good tv is free I can finally attach my new Xtreamer and see how it works |
| 05:47.06 | bleeter | then again, we did blow up the sound system |
| 05:47.41 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:47.43 | Cruciformer | from everything ive seen, if anyone is looking for a good media streaming solution thats affordable, xtreamer cant be beat. |
| 05:47.43 | Shirik | how |
| 05:48.12 | bleeter | closing night World Expo 1988, Brisbane Australia. Us on the stage, Aussie Army Artilery up and down the river... fireworks n them going off... yeah we were a bit loud, apparently |
| 05:48.42 | bleeter | not the sort of thing that can be sound checked for levels >< |
| 05:49.10 | Shirik | oh whoops |
| 05:49.14 | Shirik | bleeter confused me |
| 05:49.19 | Shirik | I was thinking of beethoven's 5th |
| 05:49.44 | bleeter | seriously wtf lol |
| 05:49.45 | Shirik | I don't think I ever played the 9th aside from a trivial version in 4th grade |
| 05:49.54 | bleeter | oh yeah, 9th's hardcore |
| 05:50.27 | Shirik | \TestOperations.h(17): error: expected expression, near 'private' |
| 05:50.29 | Shirik | WHAT EXPRESSION |
| 05:50.39 | Shirik | goes off to cry in a corner |
| 05:51.01 | bleeter | 5th's good, not brilliant agreed. can still 'hear' the 'wtf oh my so THIS is what it's about' moment in Ludwig's head, though lol |
| 05:51.45 | Dagmar | Shirik: I think it's telling you that it expected one and you didn't provide it |
| 05:52.07 | bleeter | Shirik: http://is.gd/5zwiG |
| 05:52.13 | Shirik | Dagmar: Its expectations are full of shit |
| 05:52.16 | bleeter | afaik that should hit the playlist I created |
| 05:52.30 | Zhinjio | shit. I never win anything. |
| 05:52.33 | Zhinjio | amazing |
| 05:52.40 | Dagmar | heh |
| 05:52.46 | Shirik | bleeter |
| 05:52.50 | Shirik | wtf did you just link me |
| 05:53.03 | Shirik | I have no idea what that video is, but it's definitely not of what's being played |
| 05:53.04 | Zhinjio | I figured the way things were setup, my chances were getting *worse* every day |
| 05:53.10 | Zhinjio | but whatever. Joy |
| 05:53.24 | Shirik | oh it's just horribly out of sync |
| 05:54.17 | bleeter | I suspect if someone ran some code over YouTube, you'd find it's 9/10ths out of snc |
| 05:54.21 | bleeter | sync |
| 05:54.22 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:54.29 | bleeter | tho more like 99/100ths |
| 05:54.51 | Shirik | Ok someone take a look at this and see if you can figure out wtf it's complaining about |
| 05:54.57 | Shirik | 1>c:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\CollabRC\CollabRCBotUnitTests\TestOperations.h(17): error: expected expression, near 'private' |
| 05:54.59 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/130599 |
| 05:55.15 | Shirik | uh, the error line is the pastey line 11 |
| 05:55.36 | bleeter | Bernstein's a funny conductor, always looks like he's about to start jive talkin' or something |
| 05:56.06 | Zhinjio | AI:ComputationalTreeNode or AI::ComputationalTreeNode on line 9? |
| 05:56.13 | Shirik | ah crap |
| 05:56.17 | Shirik | thanks |
| 05:56.24 | Zhinjio | my pleasure. |
| 06:00.57 | bleeter | fuck that performance is good, even on shitty ol' YouTube |
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| 06:02.16 | bleeter | hey, near 20 years old to the day... wow, seems like only couple years ago |
| 06:07.24 | Thunder_Child | bleeter: youtube? |
| 06:07.40 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: yes? |
| 06:08.02 | bleeter | oh, no.. the concert 20 years ago |
| 06:17.07 | Zhinjio | begins chanting quietly in the corner... Grun T Grun T Grun T |
| 06:17.08 | DJJeff | FuBar_HerbTrackerFu seems a bit outta date was last updated 09/28/2008 is there a better addon to replace this one? |
| 06:17.41 | Duman | hmm |
| 06:17.51 | Thunder_Child | it was a mistake on Cairenn|afk's part Zhinjio |
| 06:18.08 | Zhinjio | that would make me sad. |
| 06:18.25 | DJJeff | Broker_HerbTraining is a nice one... shows what herbs to mine to gain points |
| 06:18.52 | Zhinjio | Broker_Extractor has lists of zones and skill levels |
| 06:18.53 | DJJeff | HerbTracker shows how many herbs you have in your bank/bags... etc |
| 06:18.56 | Zhinjio | if I do say so myself. |
| 06:19.05 | Zhinjio | don't know exactly what herbtrcker did |
| 06:22.22 | Zhinjio | Thunder_Child: I will wait for confirmation, I guess. |
| 06:23.52 | Thunder_Child | just kiding Zhinjio |
| 06:24.03 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 06:28.43 | Shirik | I might have just encountered a bug in Visual C++'s compiler.... |
| 06:29.02 | Shirik | I think it's incorrectly chopping out sections of my code because it's "not used" |
| 06:29.50 | Zhinjio | that sounds like something that should be ... uh... toggle-able (for lack of a better word) |
| 06:31.39 | Shirik | hmm |
| 06:31.42 | Shirik | gcc does the same thing |
| 06:31.44 | Shirik | this must be in the standard |
| 06:31.48 | Shirik | http://codepad.org/ptWCiyLn |
| 06:31.59 | Shirik | I argue the answer should be 4 |
| 06:32.59 | Shirik | even better: http://codepad.org/BrtNQTH5 |
| 06:33.03 | Shirik | "init complete" is never output |
| 06:34.26 | Iriel | Shirik: I take it the function isn't externally visible from the compilation unit? |
| 06:34.34 | Shirik | hm? |
| 06:34.49 | Iriel | the code that's "not used" |
| 06:35.04 | Shirik | Well here's a simplified example: http://codepad.org/BrtNQTH5 |
| 06:35.31 | Shirik | shiiiiit |
| 06:35.38 | Shirik | guys in ##c++ finally figured out what it was |
| 06:35.51 | Shirik | it's a very, very well hidden, subtle error |
| 06:36.17 | Shirik | There's actually an undefined symbol in the code |
| 06:36.36 | Shirik | the linker is allowed to ignore it and not complain because the undefined symbol is never used, so no "undefined reference" is necessary |
| 06:36.43 | Shirik | http://codepad.org/jX1E8biI |
| 06:36.45 | Shirik | is correct |
| 06:38.50 | Shirik | The linker really needs warnings for crap like that... |
| 06:39.24 | Thunder_Child | ffs Shirik, write your own damn programing language already |
| 06:39.31 | Shirik | I will |
| 06:39.34 | Shirik | and it will be godlike |
| 06:39.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:39.50 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child ROFL, nice! |
| 06:39.51 | Shirik | and you will be like "omfg Shirik you are a genius and know everything we will all bow down to your greatness" |
| 06:39.53 | Thunder_Child | good, then i will use it, come on here, and btich about it |
| 06:39.56 | Shirik | and then I will be like "yes, I am" |
| 06:40.06 | Shirik | no you cannot bitch about it because you will be too busy bowing |
| 06:40.14 | Zhinjio | Nechckn: sup |
| 06:40.23 | Iriel | The hard part isn't to write a language |
| 06:40.28 | Iriel | it's to write a language that's worth using |
| 06:40.47 | Shirik | One day this guy sat down and was like "I'm gonna write a new language" |
| 06:40.49 | Thunder_Child | if it is perfect i will bow, if it isnt i will bitch at you every day for the rest of your life. which will be short because you wrote such a shitty language |
| 06:40.50 | Shirik | and then he sat on a toilet |
| 06:40.57 | Shirik | and then out came lisp |
| 06:41.02 | Nechckn | waves to Zhinjio |
| 06:41.25 | Nechckn | Happy Holidays and such! How goes the bigboy gamerpants site? |
| 06:41.39 | Zhinjio | not too bad. For what time I've had to work on it. |
| 06:41.48 | nobin | Lisp is not related to poo |
| 06:41.48 | Zhinjio | need to get it linked to paypal next |
| 06:41.59 | nobin | poo has no parens |
| 06:42.08 | nobin | Lisp has nothing but |
| 06:42.24 | Nechckn | Zhinjio hahah there you go! Get the monies all rollin' in! |
| 06:42.40 | Shirik | (= (digest hamburger) poo) |
| 06:42.41 | Zhinjio | well, its gotta be in place for when I do make it "pay for" |
| 06:42.45 | Shirik | --> T |
| 06:42.45 | batbot | Shirik: > nil |
| 06:42.49 | Shirik | ... |
| 06:42.51 | Shirik | no, I said T |
| 06:42.52 | Shirik | not nil |
| 06:45.04 | bleeter | haha http://www.theonion.com/content/news/ghost_of_christmas_future_taunts |
| 06:45.11 | bleeter | "Ghost Of Christmas Future Taunts Children With Visions Of PlayStation 5" |
| 06:45.32 | bleeter | old, so Shirik's prolly already linked it |
| 06:45.39 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:45.42 | Shirik | I haven't :P |
| 06:45.56 | bleeter | :P |
| 06:46.13 | Zhinjio | so anyone else dealing with nvidia/win7 multi-monitor nonsense here? |
| 06:46.20 | Zhinjio | any 3d game freaks it out |
| 06:47.27 | Nechckn | I have win7 but no double monitors |
| 06:47.30 | Cruciformer | Zhinjio: I have no troubles |
| 06:47.53 | Zhinjio | single video card or 2? |
| 06:48.03 | Cruciformer | 2 8800GTX's |
| 06:48.06 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 06:48.07 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 06:48.10 | Nechckn | I've not heard of such thing, either, but have had ye old beak in the sand lately |
| 06:48.19 | Nechckn | blam bleeter |
| 06:48.31 | Zhinjio | all I read is nvidia blaming MS and MS blaming nvidia. |
| 06:48.44 | Nechckn | lol, sounds about right |
| 06:48.45 | bleeter | wut? |
| 06:48.46 | Zhinjio | all I know is that I've tried a dozen different driver revs, and I've had no luck |
| 06:49.05 | bleeter | oh, I've got double monitors been too lazy to run them permanently |
| 06:49.09 | bleeter | one LCD, other CRT. |
| 06:49.11 | Zhinjio | any 3d game will, after some amount of time, shut off the second card and move to the other monitor |
| 06:49.20 | Zhinjio | it makes me cry |
| 06:49.29 | Cruciformer | does wow count as a 3d game? |
| 06:49.29 | Zhinjio | wow, et al... are basically unplayable. |
| 06:49.30 | bleeter | XOrg double monitors makes me cry |
| 06:49.43 | Nechckn | Damnit, that is quite the "minor bug", too |
| 06:50.04 | bleeter | XOrg double monitors makes me cry. even when I'm in Win7, the second one's usually off 'coz it's too much pain in *nix |
| 06:50.59 | Iriel | In OSX it 'just works' |
| 06:51.15 | Nechckn | just so long as there are no hiccups =) |
| 06:51.25 | Nechckn | then you are boned! |
| 06:51.35 | Zhinjio | I don't honestly know what changed. Things were working for... probably months |
| 06:51.36 | Nechckn | in general, of course |
| 06:51.47 | Zhinjio | then ... insert random unknown change X, and sudddenly it doesn't anymore |
| 06:53.08 | Nechckn | could it be power saving not being like active on one monitor, Zhinjio? |
| 06:53.31 | Fisker | merry christmas! |
| 06:53.35 | Zhinjio | I think I turned that all off. But I'm willing to check nearly anything at this point... |
| 06:53.40 | Zhinjio | pokes around. |
| 06:54.05 | Nechckn | it's just a shot in the dark... but "maybe" |
| 06:55.28 | Zhinjio | doesn't look like its configurable per monitor. |
| 06:55.35 | Zhinjio | and currently, I have it setup to never turn anything off |
| 06:59.52 | Fisker | does not btw Iriel |
| 07:00.28 | Iriel | Fisker: hm? |
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| 07:11.26 | Iriel | Hm, I need an addon to remind me to swtich back out of aspect of the viper |
| 07:14.45 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: your lack of dps should tell you |
| 07:15.26 | Fisker | where's jnwhiteh when you need him? |
| 07:15.39 | Thunder_Child | hiding from you |
| 07:16.43 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: that tells me i'm IN aspect of the viper, but i need that combined with having full mana |
| 07:17.38 | Fisker | Iriel just screw it |
| 07:17.42 | Fisker | i grind in aspect of the viper |
| 07:17.43 | Fisker | :P |
| 07:17.55 | Fisker | Just change out for "bosses" |
| 07:18.58 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: look at your mana bar. it's not like hunters have a lot to pay attention to |
| 07:20.42 | Fisker | yay |
| 07:20.45 | ZorbaTHut | I've heard there's an addon around that'll yell at you to change when your mana gets too high or too low |
| 07:20.49 | Fisker | almost 1/3 there on my primordial saronite |
| 07:20.49 | ZorbaTHut | don't know the name of it though |
| 07:28.04 | Nechckn | Zhinjio Congratulations, amigo |
| 07:28.13 | Zhinjio | smiles. Thanks. |
| 07:28.27 | Zhinjio | I was pretty thinking I had no chance, with it getting worse every day |
| 07:28.37 | Nechckn | Even if you cannot play, at least you can use your grunty for those 3 minutes before it cuts out =) |
| 07:28.51 | Nechckn | Lol, that is my thought, exactly! |
| 07:29.05 | bleeter | Iriel: why require an addon? Just build something physical that you set off when you go AoV. Then in 30secs or so, it smacks you around the head :P |
| 07:29.17 | Fisker | you're killing me |
| 07:29.18 | Zhinjio | Nechckn: exactly |
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| 07:51.18 | zenzelezz | hm... the Videolan group working on a video editor :-o |
| 07:56.09 | Thunder_Child | nifty |
| 08:00.05 | Fisker | vlc sucks |
| 08:00.09 | Fisker | btw |
| 08:00.14 | Fisker | <-worlds best tank paladin |
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| 08:00.27 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/12/23/funny-pictures-on-an-open-fire%e2%99%ab/ |
| 08:00.51 | Fisker | you wouldn't zenzelezz |
| 08:00.53 | Thunder_Child | 1st it's worlds best paladin tank. 2nd you are not. 3rd vlc is awesome |
| 08:01.56 | Fisker | 1st fu. 2nd fu. 3rd no. |
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| 08:02.21 | Thunder_Child | 1st no. 2nd no. 3rd yes. |
| 08:02.40 | Fisker | i was like "random lich king heroic" |
| 08:02.47 | Fisker | and it was like halls of reflection |
| 08:02.56 | Fisker | And i don't suck so we got to the end without any wipes |
| 08:03.18 | Fisker | and people were like "omg Fiskerdin you should compete in the next wow olympics" |
| 08:03.44 | zenzelezz | my opinion is biased since I'm a tank, but HoR isn't so bad to tank... takes a good group to complete though |
| 08:04.11 | Fisker | pretty much = stand in the corner = win |
| 08:04.19 | Fisker | I hate lich king as a paladin though |
| 08:04.27 | zenzelezz | you do the LoS thing on the first two? |
| 08:04.31 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:04.40 | zenzelezz | I hate that "tactic" |
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| 08:05.52 | Fisker | you don't hate it as much as i hate losing a mainspec weapon to someone's alt's offspec |
| 08:06.21 | Fisker | battered hilt must be mine |
| 08:06.28 | Fisker | or i gotta get luckier with ICC drops |
| 08:06.42 | zenzelezz | Quel'Delar is a main spec weapon for a paladin tank? |
| 08:06.56 | Fisker | naw |
| 08:07.05 | Thunder_Child | there is no taking weap |
| 08:07.14 | Fisker | there is if you use it for threat lololol! |
| 08:07.25 | Fisker | it's my rogue though |
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| 08:08.13 | zenzelezz | I have both of the heroic tank weapons from PoS/HoR, was surprised how often they drop |
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| 08:08.28 | DWSR | WTB less hit rating on ICC drops. >.< |
| 08:08.30 | DWSR | Holy lord. |
| 08:08.38 | DWSR | I have like 500 hit rating and I'm actively avoiding hit rating gear. |
| 08:09.13 | Fisker | i got the scepter from icc25 |
| 08:09.25 | Fisker | or actually icc10 |
| 08:09.32 | Fisker | just wondering what i should enchant it with |
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| 08:10.38 | DWSR | Shadowed: ping |
| 08:10.43 | Fisker | aah i hate those jackasses who signup as tank/damage without tanking gear/spec |
| 08:10.55 | Fisker | "derp derp derp whos the tank?" |
| 08:11.37 | Shadowed | DWSR mmm? |
| 08:11.44 | DWSR | Your frames be broked. |
| 08:12.06 | Shadowed | Go update to the alpha then. |
| 08:12.24 | DWSR | Well, they *were* working, and now are *not* working. |
| 08:12.47 | Shadowed | Generally that is how it goes, yes |
| 08:12.58 | DWSR | But there was no patch? |
| 08:13.12 | DWSR | (my point is they pretty much broke for no apparent reason). |
| 08:13.43 | Fisker | oh yay |
| 08:13.47 | Fisker | keyboardturner! |
| 08:14.05 | zenzelezz | DWSR: it's a christmas easter egg |
| 08:15.57 | DWSR | alright, here goes the alpha |
| 08:17.32 | DWSR | Shadowed: Still broken. |
| 08:17.44 | Shadowed | Post a ticket and I'll look at it later |
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| 08:17.51 | DWSR | =\ |
| 08:18.38 | DWSR | Shadowed: I get all of the blizzard default frames back. :( |
| 08:20.25 | Shadowed | It's also 12 AM |
| 08:20.27 | Shadowed | choose wisely |
| 08:22.22 | DWSR | Shadowed: It's 3:22AM here, and I've had a grand total of 9 hours of sleep for the past 72 hours of waking. |
| 08:22.44 | Shadowed | You aren't helping your case much :p |
| 08:23.07 | DWSR | Shadowed: the frames don't get created, at all. They don't show up when I go to unlock/move them. The *portraits* show up, but only if I enable the aura tracker portrait thingy. |
| 08:23.12 | Shadowed | As I said, post a ticket about it. I'm going to sleep |
| 08:23.29 | DWSR | lol |
| 08:24.28 | Fisker | mpw o |
| 08:24.34 | Fisker | now i'm the worlds best rogue |
| 08:27.33 | Shirik | mpw o |
| 08:27.39 | Shirik | now i'm the worlds best troll |
| 08:27.40 | Fisker | Shirik my friend |
| 08:27.45 | Fisker | no! |
| 08:27.52 | Shirik | yes! |
| 08:28.01 | Shirik | I has a trophy |
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| 08:29.45 | Fisker | i has a fart |
| 08:29.47 | Fisker | do you want? |
| 08:30.08 | zenzelezz | fart dreper |
| 08:33.00 | Fisker | anyways Shirik |
| 08:33.06 | Fisker | you can get me a nexus one |
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| 08:33.39 | zenzelezz | nexus crystal? |
| 08:33.40 | Shirik | I could get you a lexus one |
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| 08:34.41 | Fisker | i wouldn't want one |
| 08:35.55 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 08:36.06 | Shirik | testoperationtreenode.h(292): Error: Expected (immutable.Mutate(1)) to throw (CollabRC::Bot::AI::IllegalMutationException) but it didn't throw <--- fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 08:36.47 | Fisker | aww |
| 08:39.20 | mascondante | ZorbaTHut: does quest helper have a thing for the bros before ho ho hos like the buckets? |
| 08:40.18 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, it should but apparently it doesn't |
| 08:40.37 | ZorbaTHut | I might not have time to get it in |
| 08:41.26 | zenzelezz | that's topic-worthy |
| 08:41.49 | Shirik | I was thinking the same thing zenzelezz |
| 08:42.19 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "I might not have time to get it in" - ZorbaTHut |
| 08:42.19 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 08:42.22 | mascondante | zenzelezz: indeed. ZorbaTHut: Anyway, if not no biggie. I'm gonna google it. |
| 08:42.28 | Fisker | you seen any 32GB Micro SDHC cards yet? |
| 08:42.43 | Shirik | I don't follow SDHC |
| 08:42.47 | Shirik | I use CF cards |
| 08:42.50 | Shirik | SD is too slow |
| 08:43.25 | mascondante | rolls on the floor laughing at Shirik's MOTD |
| 08:43.42 | Fisker | you wouldn't Shirik |
| 08:45.27 | zenzelezz | we have a wall at work where we hang post-it notes with out-of-context quotes |
| 08:45.32 | zenzelezz | quite a lot of fun stuff there by now |
| 08:48.46 | Thunder_Child | thats a quick route to being sued for sexual harrasment |
| 08:49.43 | zenzelezz | we have no females at work; and besides, this is Norway |
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| 08:52.13 | Thunder_Child | right, because only women sue |
| 08:53.01 | zenzelezz | a guy who couldn't take sexual jokes wouldn't fit in at my workplace |
| 08:53.14 | Thunder_Child | no pun intended? |
| 08:53.41 | zenzelezz | actually no, I didn't think of that :-p |
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| 09:24.29 | zenzelezz | so we're doing heroic HoL (random), and a BoE epic drops. Three people roll green, one rolls disenchant, and the leader rolls need, saying "you're not disenchanting that"... then asking us all to roll again |
| 09:25.21 | ZorbaTHut | haha |
| 09:25.28 | ZorbaTHut | that is an awesome leader |
| 09:27.01 | nevcairiel | I usually hide roll details because its too spammy, but yeah thats kinda cool |
| 09:27.35 | zenzelezz | I'm just a bit perplexed, since it's been stated that greed and disenchant have the same priority |
| 09:27.44 | nevcairiel | they have |
| 09:27.49 | zenzelezz | so if the guy who rolled disenchant won it, he'd still just DE it |
| 09:27.56 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 09:28.38 | nevcairiel | unless he was just blindly clicking the same button all the time |
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| 09:33.56 | Fisker | derp derp derp zenzelezz |
| 09:36.34 | zenzelezz | derp you too Fisker |
| 09:40.50 | Fisker | no u zenzelezz |
| 09:41.14 | DWSR | How can I do OR in an SQL query? For example, I want to find all rows where field=this or field=that? |
| 09:41.18 | Thunder_Child | lol @ the reverted piratebay design |
| 09:41.39 | zenzelezz | DWSR: think that should work in most SQL flavours |
| 09:41.51 | Fisker | lol nice Thunder_Child |
| 09:41.58 | DWSR | zenzelezz: So it's just field=value OR field=value? |
| 09:42.11 | Fisker | i wonder why they did that though |
| 09:42.27 | Thunder_Child | you dont read much do you Fisker |
| 09:42.41 | zenzelezz | DWSR: at least in MySQL, IIRC. Think it's the same in most. If you're combining AND or similar, use parenthesis to form logical groups like in most programming languages |
| 09:42.42 | Thunder_Child | "To celebrate the end of this decade we've temporarily re-redesigned the site back to it's original look of 2003." |
| 09:43.02 | Fisker | so you're saying i should read? |
| 09:44.11 | Thunder_Child | just this http://www.jaenicke.org/suicide.html |
| 09:46.26 | Fisker | thanks for the guides Thunder_Child |
| 09:46.27 | zenzelezz | someone's claiming a shaman ninjaed plate boots... thought they couldn't roll need on plate? |
| 09:46.50 | Thunder_Child | BoE maybe? |
| 09:47.07 | zenzelezz | hm, that could be |
| 09:47.39 | Fisker | the need/greed system is pretty fucked |
| 09:48.12 | zenzelezz | [2. Trade] [...]: There we go another Dump teenager |
| 09:48.14 | zenzelezz | the irony |
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| 10:06.53 | EthanCentaurai | is so OCD he's just organised the IRC rooms he's in into alphabetical order... |
| 10:10.17 | nevcairiel | My client does that on its own =P |
| 10:13.10 | EthanCentaurai | which client do you use? |
| 10:14.31 | nevcairiel | quassel, but most clients i used seemed to do that |
| 10:16.46 | EthanCentaurai | goes off to bitch to the authors of Colloquy |
| 10:26.39 | Fisker | brrrs |
| 10:37.15 | krka | i've started with a seemingly random order of channels but i like it that way, since i can easily remember which number is which channel |
| 10:37.57 | zenzelezz | I don't have "random" as such. I join the channel I'm most interested in first, then the second, and so on; and remember them by number too |
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| 10:52.20 | Fisker | i think Windows should use error messages rather than sounds |
| 10:53.21 | Wobin | Zhinjio, grats |
| 10:53.30 | Fisker | ah finally |
| 10:53.30 | Zhinjio | Wobin: thanks! |
| 10:55.50 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:55.54 | Wobin | I -like- TSO |
| 10:56.24 | zenzelezz | TSO? |
| 10:56.46 | Wobin | Trans-Siberian Orchestra |
| 10:57.01 | Wobin | I'm rehashing a conversation from 5hrs ago =) |
| 10:57.12 | Wobin | cause that's when I disconnected |
| 10:59.43 | Fisker | aww |
| 10:59.49 | Fisker | i thought you were talking about The Sims Online |
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| 11:20.27 | Adys | TRAC SUCKS |
| 11:20.38 | Adys | Pop quiz |
| 11:21.13 | Adys | What should a Web CVS interface have MOST VISIBLE on its main page? |
| 11:21.44 | Adys | No... not "recently fixed tickets" |
| 11:22.04 | Adys | .. s'right, not a web download either |
| 11:22.19 | Adys | CHANGELOGS AND FILES |
| 11:30.03 | mikma | omglol funneh |
| 11:31.45 | mikma | wobin: transsexual oddities |
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| 11:39.56 | Adys | Trac is fucking retarded |
| 11:39.59 | Adys | Did I mention that |
| 11:40.07 | Wobin | No |
| 11:40.13 | Wobin | You might want to reiterate |
| 11:40.15 | Wobin | just in case |
| 11:40.21 | Adys | reiterates |
| 11:40.24 | Adys | I like tso too |
| 11:40.34 | Adys | but ive no idea what you were on about |
| 11:42.28 | Wobin | Shirik was asking what classical piece a TSO song was based off |
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| 11:46.41 | Fisker | they had songs in the sims online? |
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| 11:49.57 | Wobin | weren't you listening? =( |
| 11:53.10 | zenzelezz | is Fisker ever listening? |
| 11:53.42 | Fisker | why is opera sending me like 1MB webpages for their opera mobile page? |
| 11:53.52 | Fisker | Think i'd want to browse to that page in my ordinary browser? ;_; |
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| 11:57.19 | Adys | Someone comparing perl to python, trying to excuse how terrible perl is |
| 11:57.42 | Adys | "But python is just as bad, and it is almost 20 year old!" |
| 11:57.50 | Adys | last I checked perl was older than python |
| 11:58.11 | zenzelezz | is python 20 years old? |
| 11:58.28 | Adys | python is 18 |
| 11:58.32 | Adys | perl is 23 |
| 11:58.50 | zenzelezz | hm... don't recall hearing of Python until the early 2000s |
| 11:59.04 | Adys | Because it really wasnt that popular |
| 11:59.24 | Adys | Python prior to 2.1 was pretty much unknown |
| 11:59.40 | zenzelezz | did things change much with Python in 2.1 then? |
| 12:00.33 | Adys | the community buildup was stronger |
| 12:00.38 | Adys | i think that... sec |
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| 12:01.28 | Adys | http://www.vimeo.com/1093745 |
| 12:07.07 | Adys | zenzelezz: watch that video, its quite representative of the evolution of python |
| 12:07.24 | zenzelezz | Adys: just finished watching it :) Very cool way to visualise it |
| 12:10.35 | mikma | xinhuan: answer to your question: never. |
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| 12:13.13 | Fisker | omg world server down |
| 12:18.36 | Fisker | wtf my tank is offline! |
| 12:18.39 | Fisker | slacker pet! |
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| 12:52.48 | Aelobin | argh, any advice on saurfang? :< |
| 12:53.05 | Aelobin | had 2 mages kiting adds and killing them but still we kept failing >_< |
| 12:53.46 | Xinhuan | have higher dps |
| 12:54.17 | Aelobin | :P |
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| 12:56.45 | cbreak | we failed for a whole evening until we finally killed him |
| 12:56.47 | nevcairiel | we did it with both kiting and tanking the adds successfully before |
| 12:56.50 | nevcairiel | just requires enough dps |
| 12:57.00 | cbreak | we just killed the adds without tanking them with all ranged |
| 12:57.07 | cbreak | about seven or eight of us |
| 12:57.12 | nevcairiel | if you can, get the adds stunned |
| 12:57.22 | cbreak | the adds are frost nova freezable |
| 12:57.23 | nevcairiel | and if you kite, slowed of course |
| 12:57.26 | cbreak | hunter trap slowable |
| 12:57.32 | cbreak | earth bind slowable |
| 12:57.34 | cbreak | and much more |
| 12:57.49 | cbreak | anyway, the change that gave us victory was to let the first person with the mark die |
| 12:58.04 | cbreak | first time we did that, we killed him. |
| 12:58.05 | nevcairiel | that sounds like a silly tactics |
| 12:58.16 | cbreak | why does it sound silly? |
| 12:58.24 | nevcairiel | letting people die is no solution |
| 12:58.29 | cbreak | it worked |
| 12:58.42 | cbreak | usually, we had 3 marks around 30% when the phases switched |
| 12:58.56 | nevcairiel | we got first mark at about 40% |
| 12:59.01 | nevcairiel | second at ~15 |
| 12:59.03 | nevcairiel | dead before third |
| 12:59.08 | cbreak | whoa |
| 12:59.16 | cbreak | we killed him with six marks |
| 12:59.19 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 12:59.26 | nevcairiel | thats impossible to heal really |
| 12:59.31 | cbreak | did you have 20 dps or something? |
| 12:59.51 | nevcairiel | not even that extreme of a setup |
| 13:00.07 | cbreak | we had seven healers, so healing six marks was doable |
| 13:00.14 | cbreak | (one of the marks was dead) |
| 13:00.18 | nevcairiel | i suppose, i think we only had 5 for him |
| 13:00.42 | nevcairiel | and we were really careful about spreading out to reduce the aoe effect |
| 13:00.51 | cbreak | anyway, letting someone die worked for us, since it decreased the speed he got blood by a lot |
| 13:02.01 | nevcairiel | we also constantly stunned the adds, that helped alot in killing them fast without them generating any of his blood power |
| 13:02.24 | cbreak | we're very low on melee dps, so we had many ranged to take care of them |
| 13:02.28 | cbreak | without getting hit much |
| 13:02.38 | cbreak | but having many ranged made spreading hard too |
| 13:02.54 | cbreak | (and doing the second boss with only four propper melee dps was a pain) |
| 13:03.11 | nevcairiel | oh yeah she is way easier with good melees |
| 13:03.42 | cbreak | unfortunately, ret palas, hunters, enhancement shamans all have magic components |
| 13:04.13 | nevcairiel | indeed, we had a undead DK that was fail as well |
| 13:07.41 | Fisker | Aren't one of you talking about 25-man and the other 10-man? |
| 13:07.55 | bleeter | merry christmas to all the people in a sensible timezone who are lurking here |
| 13:07.59 | bleeter | and to the rest of you |
| 13:08.02 | bleeter | get a fucking life! :P |
| 13:08.21 | Fisker | That includes non-christians |
| 13:08.24 | Fisker | get a fucking life losers |
| 13:09.48 | bleeter | no u |
| 13:10.28 | cbreak | I haven't seen him in 10 so far. I am usually responsible for forming a second 10 man team, which rarely works :/ |
| 13:33.14 | Fisker | he's pretty easy in 10-man |
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| 14:04.09 | mikma | how rude |
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| 14:23.25 | Fisker | farts mikma in the face |
| 14:24.09 | Fisker | see that's not rude! |
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| 14:45.01 | Kraps | Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind holyshitholyshit |
| 14:46.39 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 14:48.00 | Kraps | its a movie |
| 14:48.26 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, I knew that part. |
| 14:48.44 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NGV4YB9UWY&feature=player_embedded# |
| 14:48.56 | Kraps | its really good? |
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| 15:07.26 | Fisker | sauce Kraps ? |
| 15:07.38 | Kraps | wut |
| 15:08.17 | Fisker | well your mother then |
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| 15:10.31 | mikma | http://www.riemurasia.net/rasiatube/view.php?id=26569 |
| 15:10.33 | mikma | NOM NOM NOM |
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| 15:16.55 | Lopeppeppy | Today is totally a day for going back to bed. Ugh. |
| 15:17.33 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy, ... Christmas Day? |
| 15:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin, I'm in the US, that's tomorrow. And since I'm a no-plans-no-family person, yeah, sleeping through it would be an option. |
| 15:18.54 | Wobin | =( |
| 15:19.07 | Wobin | wishes Lopeppeppy a .. comfortable Christmas |
| 15:20.10 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, thanks. I have my kitties, we're going to bake a ham. But lonely holidays are part of what being single is all about, and that's just that. |
| 15:22.57 | Lopeppeppy | I send myself an email... and it gets sent to the Spam folder? o.O |
| 15:26.17 | cbreak | heuristic |
| 15:26.47 | cbreak | spammers sometimes use the recipient e-mail address as sender address |
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| 15:31.51 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVgCOgtklew&feature=related |
| 15:32.01 | Wobin | along with all the other SNC renditions =) |
| 15:49.53 | EthanCentaurai | wow, I think the Game Masters must be sleeping... it's been 4 days since I sent them a ticket and it still says "wait time unavailable" :D |
| 15:50.29 | EthanCentaurai | I understand holiday breaks etc, but you'd think they would have got back by now |
| 15:52.44 | cbreak | was it a boring ticket? |
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| 15:54.52 | Lopeppeppy | Did you include a candy cane? |
| 15:56.57 | EthanCentaurai | it was a nice ticket and it would have included an ASCII candy cane if it would fit :) |
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| 15:58.07 | dardack | Ok I thought that blizzard changed LootSlot() to non protected, but if I loot only coin and LootSlot() is called it says: ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED:AddOn 'LootWhatIWant' tried to call the protected function 'LootSlot()' |
| 15:58.19 | dardack | is this a known issue? |
| 15:59.21 | EthanCentaurai | that's news to me, but then again I don't use any loot mods |
| 16:00.26 | dardack | Yea it only fires when only Coin is looted, if 1 item or items and coin are looted it doesn't complain |
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| 16:05.52 | Polarina | Sorry, Shirik. Didn't notice it was an user page. |
| 16:07.32 | dardack | is there a place I should report this to blizz? or is it a known issue? |
| 16:08.16 | Lopeppeppy | There's the bug report forum, you could check the stickies there and make a report there too. |
| 16:08.28 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10023&sid=1 |
| 16:11.45 | Adys | wootwoot |
| 16:11.47 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40417:3721:3448:3490/ |
| 16:11.47 | dardack | ty i'll check it out |
| 16:11.50 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40417:3721:3448:3448/ |
| 16:11.53 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40417/ |
| 16:12.05 | Adys | done with socket bonuses :) |
| 16:12.17 | dardack | confused |
| 16:32.10 | Polarina | How do I make the keys in a hash table weak references? |
| 16:35.27 | EthanCentaurai | setmetatable(yourTable, { __mode = "k" }) |
| 16:35.30 | EthanCentaurai | I think |
| 16:35.45 | EthanCentaurai | is 99% sure he is wrong. |
| 16:36.01 | Polarina | EthanCentaurai: Thanks. |
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| 16:56.06 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40413/deprecated-elixir-of-mighty-nothing/ |
| 17:11.16 | industrial | Is it possible to fix an MBR on a running windows 7 system? I do not have the DVD at hand nor the time to download and burn it. |
| 17:11.31 | Polarina | industrial: Do you have a backup of your MBR? |
| 17:11.36 | industrial | no |
| 17:11.52 | Polarina | industrial: You can install GRUB to your master boot record. That should boot your system back up. |
| 17:12.08 | Xinhuan | what's broken about the MBR |
| 17:12.19 | industrial | I'm already in the system through a Hiren's bootcd flash drive boot |
| 17:12.37 | Xinhuan | i don't think you can repair it without the w7 bootup cd |
| 17:12.41 | industrial | Xinhuan: when I boot my pc normally I jsut get OPERATING SYSTEM NOT FOUND< INSERT MEDIA SOMETHINGSOMETHING |
| 17:12.44 | industrial | damn :p |
| 17:12.54 | industrial | I have an XP one, will that work >_> ? |
| 17:12.58 | Xinhuan | the steps to restore a mbr are generally teh same as vista's |
| 17:13.22 | industrial | boot cd, f8, fixmbr, done? |
| 17:13.33 | industrial | lets try! |
| 17:13.38 | Xinhuan | which is "bootrec /fixmbr" |
| 17:14.19 | Xinhuan | and possibly "bootrec /fixboot" |
| 17:14.35 | Xinhuan | that's for vista |
| 17:14.42 | industrial | ok |
| 17:14.55 | Xinhuan | fixmbr is a XP recovery console command |
| 17:15.08 | industrial | yes, so, I'll really need the dvd |
| 17:15.09 | industrial | :< |
| 17:15.59 | Polarina | Pirate it! |
| 17:16.01 | Adys | AHHAHAHAHA |
| 17:16.03 | Adys | "To be fair, OpenOffice.org isn't GPL, yet that's the text editor / presentation software I use." |
| 17:16.30 | Xinhuan | whats the punchline? |
| 17:16.44 | Adys | if you dont see something wrong using OO as text editor... |
| 17:17.37 | Corrodias2 | that's sort of the point of it |
| 17:18.29 | Adys | erm do you know what a text editor is? |
| 17:18.44 | Adys | because its not the same as an office suite. |
| 17:20.25 | Corrodias2 | oh, that. is that what the quote means it to be? |
| 17:20.43 | Adys | i wouldnt be surprised |
| 17:24.05 | Aelobin | anyone here very good with vent? :P |
| 17:24.44 | amro | I'm good at venting my agner |
| 17:24.49 | amro | s/agn/ang/ |
| 17:25.11 | Lopeppeppy | What do you want it to do, Aelobin? |
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| 17:25.50 | Corrodias2 | i used it a while back |
| 17:26.00 | Aelobin | actually might be working |
| 17:27.27 | Aelobin | trying to get the "mute whilst talking" thing working |
| 17:28.23 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 17:29.08 | Lopeppeppy | It's a checkbox setting, last I looked. Granted, that was a while ago. |
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| 18:05.54 | Lopeppeppy | My cats, not killing one another. http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/jarien/Rosie/coexisting.jpg |
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| 18:07.21 | Torhal_ | Lopeppeppy: What did you pour into that funnel to produce a cat? |
| 18:08.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oatmeal, mice tails, and saltpeter. |
| 18:08.11 | Torhal | Good times. |
| 18:08.24 | Lopeppeppy | She has awesome orange eyes, that's the saltpeter I think. |
| 18:12.53 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:13.14 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Shirik. *hug* |
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| 18:17.55 | EthanCentaurai | happy birthday Torhal :) |
| 18:18.21 | Lopeppeppy | nudges Shirik toward the topic. |
| 18:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | Happy birthday, Torhal! |
| 18:18.50 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "I might not have time to get it in" - ZorbaTHut | Happy birthday Torhal! |
| 18:18.58 | Torhal | Thankyes! |
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| 18:30.02 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 18:30.10 | Fisker | why didn't my brother get a happy birthday note? :( |
| 18:30.51 | Thunder_Child | is your brother in channel Fisker? |
| 18:31.10 | FiskersBrother | as a matter of fact i believe that he is |
| 18:31.35 | Fisker | Looks like i just missed him |
| 18:31.42 | Fisker | saw he was there a few seconds ago |
| 18:33.06 | Thunder_Child | ...your "brother" would have saud "as a matter of fact i believe that I AM" not "he is" |
| 18:33.11 | Thunder_Child | said* |
| 18:33.36 | Fisker | He likes to refer to himself like that |
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| 18:33.57 | Fisker | Let me assure you that i didn't just go change clothes and make it look like i am my brother |
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| 18:34.14 | Fisker | *shifty eyes* |
| 18:34.31 | Thunder_Child | agreed, you changed clothes and made it look like you were your sister |
| 18:34.36 | Fisker | i wish |
| 18:36.05 | mikma | fister? |
| 18:37.16 | Fisker | Oh look, it's mr. "I ignore Fisker because i don't care about what he writes, yet i still enquire about it every 2 seconds." |
| 18:40.50 | Fisker | lol |
| 18:40.57 | Fisker | blizzard forums filters ffffffffuuuuuuuu |
| 18:40.58 | Fisker | :D |
| 18:41.58 | Corrodias2 | n |
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| 18:52.28 | Fisker | oh u Corrodias2 |
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| 18:56.18 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51jW9yNJwbI#t=1m09s |
| 18:56.20 | Fisker | OMG NIPPLES |
| 18:56.30 | Fisker | our youth is RUINED |
| 19:00.53 | Shirik | pop quiz linux gurus |
| 19:00.58 | Shirik | my server just ran out of disk space |
| 19:01.06 | Shirik | what's an easy way to find the largest file (probably the oldest log) |
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| 19:07.13 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: Start by using google |
| 19:07.16 | jnwhiteh | and clicking on the link that leads to this |
| 19:07.17 | jnwhiteh | du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 10 |
| 19:07.30 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 19:07.35 | mikma | http://www.orsm.net/shite/update200912222/rs019.jpg |
| 19:08.16 | Shirik | that seems like it would consume a lot of memory |
| 19:08.27 | Lopeppeppy | You're a naughty monkey, jnwhiteh. |
| 19:08.47 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: so do it in just your logs directory |
| 19:09.01 | jnwhiteh | you use du to get disk usage, then sort |
| 19:09.02 | Shirik | problem is not all my logs are in the logs directory >< |
| 19:09.04 | jnwhiteh | not very difficult. |
| 19:09.14 | Shirik | I give up, I freed enough space for now |
| 19:09.21 | jnwhiteh | well I gave you an answer |
| 19:09.22 | Fisker | jnwhiteh ! |
| 19:09.22 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 19:09.22 | Shirik | but it's still going incredibly slow |
| 19:09.24 | mikma | rm -rf / |
| 19:09.25 | Fisker | nexus one! |
| 19:09.30 | Fisker | btw george michael died :( |
| 19:09.33 | mikma | enough free space |
| 19:09.41 | Shirik | I can't kill mysql :( |
| 19:10.07 | mikma | lol lol lol |
| 19:11.17 | Fisker | jnwhiteh disappoints me :( |
| 19:11.55 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 19:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I thought you meant the singer... I was sad for 30 seconds. |
| 19:12.16 | Fisker | i know |
| 19:12.18 | Fisker | i'm a jerk |
| 19:12.26 | Fisker | someone did it to me :( |
| 19:12.42 | Adys | Any sql pro around? |
| 19:13.21 | Adys | Is it possible to query for something like * from table where somecolumn & 4096 |
| 19:13.32 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 19:13.42 | Adys | how? (postgres btw) |
| 19:15.06 | nevcairiel | hm not sure about postgres |
| 19:15.11 | nevcairiel | in mysql its exactly like you wrote it |
| 19:15.24 | nevcairiel | tried that? =P |
| 19:15.45 | Adys | i dunno im using django so looked at the filters first, gonna try in pg |
| 19:16.46 | Adys | An error has occurred: |
| 19:16.46 | Adys | ERROR: argument of WHERE must be type boolean, not type integer |
| 19:18.01 | Kraps | question about torchlight, as a melee guy, can i use all of the talents in the 3 talent trees? |
| 19:18.50 | Kraps | the casting skills too? |
| 19:19.17 | Corrodias2 | you can use any talents you want, but some may be less useful to a melee spec... |
| 19:21.33 | Kraps | the combat is great |
| 19:21.39 | Adys | What the hell |
| 19:21.52 | Adys | >>> list(Item.objects.raw("select * from owdb_item where name = 'Malachite'")) |
| 19:21.52 | Adys | [<Item_Deferred_gem_properties_id_instance_bind_id_itemset_id_page_id_required_faction_id_required_holiday_id_required_skill_id_required_spell_id_scaling_stats_id_socket_bonus_id_starts_quest_id_subclass_id_teaches_spell_id_unique_category_id_zone_bind_id: Malachite>] |
| 19:23.11 | Adys | nevcairiel: ah there it is |
| 19:23.13 | Adys | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.3/static/functions-math.html |
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| 19:24.42 | Adys | http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/functions-math.html actually |
| 19:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | That's a mouthful, Adys. |
| 19:31.37 | Thunder_Child | sweet, nimoy is narrating ST:O |
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| 19:37.59 | industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47508 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47300 |
| 19:38.04 | industrial | (enhancement shaman) |
| 19:38.06 | industrial | mace amirite? |
| 19:40.00 | Fisker | lol yes |
| 19:40.59 | Fisker | you wouldn't sniffer another mans butt industrial |
| 19:41.54 | Thunder_Child | sniffer? |
| 19:41.59 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Fisker |
| 19:41.59 | purl | Fisker: FAIL! |
| 19:42.16 | industrial | snifsker |
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| 19:43.26 | jnwhiteh | i would sniff another fisker's butt |
| 19:43.30 | jnwhiteh | clearly. |
| 19:49.49 | Fisker | i hate you Thunder_Child |
| 19:49.52 | Fisker | also you jnwhiteh |
| 19:49.58 | Fisker | getting the new nexus one btw? |
| 19:51.51 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:03.13 | Torhal | I really hope Fisker gets a soul this Christmas. |
| 20:03.39 | Stanzilla | he would sell it again |
| 20:03.50 | Torhal | Ugh. |
| 20:07.04 | Fisker | why so mean Torhal? :( |
| 20:09.24 | Torhal | Fisker: Just saying... |
| 20:09.39 | Torhal | Besides, Stanzilla is the one who said you'd sell it again. |
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| 20:12.04 | Antiarc | Man. Casuals are making me hate this game. |
| 20:12.07 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/AqNRb.png |
| 20:12.09 | Antiarc | I DETECT A PATTERN |
| 20:12.31 | Antiarc | (#2 was the tank, who was calling himself "suicidal" because he pulled an extra add with one pack) |
| 20:13.25 | industrial | when I dinged I did 2.5~3k dps .. |
| 20:14.19 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: =( |
| 20:14.26 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: shouldn't you get paired wit peopel who suck less? |
| 20:14.35 | Antiarc | You'd think, but man. |
| 20:14.42 | Antiarc | Last nigth I had the best 5-man ToC ever |
| 20:14.51 | Antiarc | I was the only one actually doing any DPS during the jousting. |
| 20:15.01 | Antiarc | The others were just camping on the guy that'd been knocked off. |
| 20:15.04 | Antiarc | So that took about 10 minutes. |
| 20:15.22 | Antiarc | Then we proceed to wipe on the champs after they're knocked off their horses. |
| 20:15.35 | Antiarc | The tank died to whirlwind, but not before losing aggro to the healer. |
| 20:15.49 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 20:15.50 | Antiarc | During wipe recovery, he says "2.5 minutes left on challenging shout, please wait for it" |
| 20:16.05 | Antiarc | Because apparently the way your hold AOE aggro is by spamming your AOE taunt when you charge. |
| 20:16.18 | Antiarc | We then proceeded to wipe two more times, with the tank exploding during the whirlwind each time. |
| 20:16.33 | Antiarc | I then quit the group. My first dropped group since 3.3 hit, and I have the pug on two characters. |
| 20:16.45 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 20:17.11 | Antiarc | I think the issue is that a lot of warriors, DKs, paladins, and ferals are queueing as tanks without knowing how to play it, and without the gear to tank it |
| 20:17.15 | Antiarc | Because tank queues are instant |
| 20:17.30 | Fisker | damn you're unlucky |
| 20:17.32 | Antiarc | HOW DO I HOLD AGGRO WITHOUT BLADESTORM |
| 20:17.48 | Fisker | I've only had like 2 shitty groups so far |
| 20:17.50 | Antiarc | I get some truly horrific pugs. |
| 20:17.55 | Antiarc | Most are pleasant. |
| 20:18.00 | Fisker | One the tank was threatening to leave if we didn't skip 2 bosses |
| 20:18.01 | Antiarc | The bad ones suck amazingly badly. |
| 20:18.10 | Fisker | And the other some idiot signed up as dps and tank to get instant spot |
| 20:18.34 | Fisker | and of course he wouldn't just leave |
| 20:18.38 | Antiarc | Did I tell you all about the paladin tank I had in PoS that never used a seal (and thus, never used judgment) and didn't ever put righteous fury up? |
| 20:19.12 | Antiarc | His hunter buddy, same guild, never used an aspect or misdirection either |
| 20:19.49 | Antiarc | I was healing that run. The paladin had 30k HP buffed. |
| 20:19.54 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:19.55 | Antiarc | That's with sanc + fort. |
| 20:21.03 | Antiarc | Anyhow. Yeah. FMP. |
| 20:23.10 | Antiarc | Well. I just bought http://fmypug.com/ |
| 20:24.22 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has a kink, I guess. |
| 20:29.26 | Fisker | why won't you love me jnwhiteh ? |
| 20:30.37 | Lopeppeppy | He's busy getting a tan |
| 20:35.13 | Adys | Django is awesome |
| 20:35.13 | Adys | but |
| 20:35.16 | Adys | Django is fucking terrible |
| 20:35.44 | Adys | I had to remove retarded exception catching to find out where to add stuff in the core |
| 20:36.18 | Adys | anyhow, added __band filter; http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/39294/arc-scorched-helmet/ - http://db.mmo-champion.com/items/?gem_color__band=1 |
| 20:44.37 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB8iu8V99HY <-lol'd @ QQ |
| 20:49.41 | Antiarc | haha, nice, Fisker |
| 20:51.05 | Fisker | it's loop worthy |
| 20:51.32 | Fisker | no queue in wow today, what a coincidence! |
| 20:52.04 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0by9Rn4lVdQ |
| 20:53.17 | mikma | crap. |
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| 21:06.05 | cbreak | I can't remember that my server had queues in 2009 |
| 21:06.12 | cbreak | at least not to log in |
| 21:06.21 | cbreak | *grumble about instance spawn issues* |
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| 21:08.26 | Fisker | last sunday our queue was 1000+ |
| 21:08.38 | Fisker | were still queues at night |
| 21:08.43 | haste | kill it with fire! |
| 21:08.57 | haste | silently goes back to coding. |
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| 21:09.39 | Fisker | hello haste |
| 21:09.41 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 21:09.54 | Lopeppeppy | The love, the love. |
| 21:10.37 | Fisker | well he should stop being so useless for melee |
| 21:16.17 | Lopeppeppy | You should get another weapon, there's no talent points you can put into wielding a haste. |
| 21:17.32 | haste | I love how wowhead's data is a cluster fuck of XML and JSON |
| 21:20.06 | bleeter | Humbug. Just for you lot, I've uploaded 'Jolly Old Christmas Time', by my namesake: http://is.gd/5ApXQ |
| 21:21.53 | Fisker | just like haste is a clusterfuck of haste :( |
| 21:22.11 | haste | that's a good clusterfuck tho'! |
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| 21:23.46 | tardmrr | sigh |
| 21:23.50 | tardmrr | this is super great |
| 21:24.00 | tardmrr | itunes is hanging instantly when I open it |
| 21:24.12 | tardmrr | and I don't have time to come up with another way to sync my phone |
| 21:24.27 | tardmrr | and reinstalling itunes didn't help |
| 21:26.18 | haste | yay for being locked down to a single software option! |
| 21:27.18 | tardmrr | not yay |
| 21:27.21 | tardmrr | I fucking hate itunes |
| 21:27.25 | tardmrr | it's a bloated peice of shit |
| 21:27.48 | cbreak | maybe that's because ... someone... wanted to put everything into it |
| 21:27.52 | haste | sarcastic yay was sarcastic |
| 21:28.02 | cbreak | a store, a device manager, a media library, an audio player, yada yada |
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| 21:30.43 | Kraps | torchlight is nice |
| 21:30.46 | Lopeppeppy | needs huggles, chocolate chip cookies, chinese food, and a good movie. |
| 21:31.11 | industrial | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 21:31.14 | industrial | thats one doen |
| 21:31.15 | industrial | down |
| 21:31.28 | industrial | I could link you the rest but .. |
| 21:31.50 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: why so down? |
| 21:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles industrial. |
| 21:32.47 | Lopeppeppy | I'm starting to organize things for Rosie's surgery on Monday, I don't want to drop my kitty off with strangers to be mangled up. |
| 21:38.36 | Fisker | ok so my rogue can roll on spellpower gear, but my hunter can't? |
| 21:38.37 | Fisker | rage |
| 21:39.08 | Fisker | it was an upgrade :( |
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| 21:43.35 | Fisker | it's the worst kind of racism |
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| 21:52.04 | Fisker | wtf stupid pet |
| 21:53.03 | Fisker | doesn't appear my pet understands the meaning of "stay" |
| 21:54.12 | Lopeppeppy | Must be a cat |
| 21:54.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I think steam hates their customers |
| 21:54.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Because they're going to suck every dime out of me |
| 21:54.25 | Corrodias2 | :3 |
| 21:55.31 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 21:56.52 | mikma | hehe |
| 21:56.59 | mikma | MI1SE is on sale again |
| 21:57.01 | mikma | 4.49$ |
| 21:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/440 |
| 21:57.18 | ScytheBlade1 | HOW DO YOU SAY NO TO THAT |
| 21:58.17 | mikma | mehehe |
| 21:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | Um. |
| 21:58.30 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 21:58.32 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 21:58.34 | Lopeppeppy | Learn to say it. :P |
| 21:58.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't know if I can |
| 21:59.32 | Lopeppeppy | It only asks me to verify my age, ScytheBlade1, what is it that you're ordering that's NC17? |
| 21:59.45 | Thunder_Child | for a lot of thoes games the appeal is multiplayer.....BUT NO ONE PLAYS THEM ANYMORE |
| 21:59.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing, it asks you to verify if they have an M rated game |
| 22:00.43 | Thunder_Child | that and they really should put the release date of when it was made...not added to steam |
| 22:00.50 | ScytheBlade1 | indeed |
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| 22:11.58 | Fisker | lulz @ owned alliance |
| 22:12.24 | Fisker | was in one of the of the fallen necropolis' and i saw a paladin |
| 22:12.30 | Fisker | He had just fought his way up to a npc |
| 22:12.37 | Fisker | I just disengaged over there and talked to him |
| 22:12.42 | Fisker | Then suddenly he attacked me |
| 22:12.52 | Fisker | So i just disengaged back and shot at him while he had no range on me hoho |
| 22:14.22 | Cide | paladins have rage now? |
| 22:14.26 | Cide | oh fail me |
| 22:14.30 | Cide | range |
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| 22:16.12 | Fisker | it was so awesome that he'll probably be so ashamed that he'll corpse camp me for an hour |
| 22:16.28 | Fisker | but worth it |
| 22:26.21 | Thunder_Child | i'd corpse camp you just for fun |
| 22:26.32 | Fisker | i'd fart on you Thunder_Child |
| 22:26.44 | Thunder_Child | you already did Fisker |
| 22:29.25 | Fisker | and i'd do it again |
| 22:29.35 | Thunder_Child | doesnt work like that |
| 22:29.55 | Thunder_Child | what i am trying to figure out is why steam has the option to add "non-steam games" |
| 22:30.13 | Fisker | the overlay |
| 22:30.27 | Thunder_Child | oh...thats nifty |
| 22:31.45 | Fisker | hacker nightelves and their stupid shadowmeld |
| 22:32.25 | Fisker | atleast it has a 2 minute cooldown |
| 22:33.45 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* Thomas |
| 22:36.06 | amro | Fisker: Necropoli* |
| 22:36.42 | industrial | hm I wonder |
| 22:36.49 | industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=eu.grim-batol.kitoushi |
| 22:36.52 | industrial | for a blue gem slot |
| 22:37.02 | industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40169 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40136 |
| 22:41.41 | industrial | for yellow its obviously http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40159 |
| 22:45.16 | Fisker | i hate you amro |
| 22:45.21 | Fisker | also fu Thunder_Child |
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| 22:46.11 | Wobin | Merry Christmas folkz |
| 22:46.19 | Wobin | And Happy Birthday Torhal |
| 22:46.36 | Thunder_Child | dont fu me Fisker, i will track you down and send you mail |
| 22:47.13 | foxlit | is it can be presents time now? |
| 22:47.14 | industrial | Fisker: come on now fisker, you can do it |
| 22:47.16 | Corrodias2 | Thunder_Child: i believe the game's initial release date is available on the game's own page |
| 22:47.27 | Corrodias2 | though in searches they tend to show their added date instead |
| 22:47.38 | Thunder_Child | i down doubt it, but it still should be that way |
| 22:47.44 | Corrodias2 | though in both cases it's just called "release date" |
| 22:47.48 | Thunder_Child | dont* |
| 22:48.06 | Corrodias2 | i could see why they'd want to do that, so you can see what has been added to steam recently via new releases |
| 22:48.27 | Fisker | industrial most classes don't benefit for matching blues |
| 22:48.34 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt be too had to have 2 lines of info |
| 22:48.48 | Corrodias2 | damn right it wouldn't |
| 22:49.23 | Thunder_Child | hard* |
| 22:49.29 | Thunder_Child | i should stop typing now |
| 22:49.58 | Wobin | machinarium is a good purchase |
| 22:50.43 | industrial | Fisker: I need only one for the meta gem |
| 22:50.56 | industrial | surely 3% crit weighs up to 40ap |
| 22:51.01 | industrial | 80* |
| 22:51.10 | Corrodias2 | during this sale i bought 13 games, about 40 if you include the telltale games pack, and i would have gotten the eidos pack if i didn't already have the 6 or so games out of it that i want |
| 22:51.18 | industrial | without metagem I could fill2 more red :p |
| 22:51.49 | Fisker | nightmare tear is probably best industrial |
| 22:51.53 | Fisker | l2elitistjerks |
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| 22:52.52 | industrial | ah, niz, didnt think of that |
| 22:53.30 | Fisker | <-skills |
| 22:53.41 | Fisker | i just need someone to do 5 quests for me :( |
| 22:54.34 | industrial | sure hand me your pass |
| 22:54.42 | industrial | promis I wont mess around |
| 22:57.47 | Fisker | if i could do them solo i would've done so already |
| 22:59.15 | Fisker | might as well give it a shot |
| 23:03.09 | Adys | anyone knows of some patch splitter tool |
| 23:03.18 | ScytheBlade1 | patch splitter? |
| 23:03.25 | Adys | I give it a patch, it lets me choose which chunk is for which patchset |
| 23:03.34 | Adys | Im tempted to write one for fun, but also because i need it. |
| 23:05.10 | Fisker | http://db.mmo-champion.com/is/818/swiftarrow-battlefear/ <-you gotta be kidding me :o |
| 23:05.26 | Fisker | nice typo that have survived like ??? years |
| 23:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | Happy holidays y'all, see you tomorrow! |
| 23:06.25 | Fisker | bai |
| 23:06.33 | Dagmar | So... What is it that makes people resist fear effects? |
| 23:06.46 | _rane | shadow resistance |
| 23:06.52 | Fisker | or fear resistance |
| 23:06.58 | _rane | was that a serious question? |
| 23:07.14 | Dagmar | Interesting |
| 23:07.24 | Dagmar | It actually *is* a serious question |
| 23:07.53 | Dagmar | I've been doing a lot of pugs and since I can't remember half these bloody fights, I'm not trinketing and so forth around the fears stuns. |
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| 23:08.16 | Dagmar | I've noticed in the last week I actually get feared maybe a quarter of the time |
| 23:08.32 | cbreak | onyxia's fear is fire based I think |
| 23:08.46 | Adys | intimidating shouts are physical |
| 23:08.57 | Adys | so you cant really count on anything |
| 23:09.00 | nevcairiel | yeah it depends on the type of fear |
| 23:09.03 | Adys | apart from pvp talents and gear |
| 23:09.03 | Dagmar | I've just been trying to figure out why they always seem to miss me |
| 23:09.06 | nevcairiel | spriests and locks are shadow, though |
| 23:09.22 | Fisker | i'd guess it goes under stun resist Adys |
| 23:09.28 | Fisker | atleast the main target |
| 23:09.50 | Dagmar | Last night we had some jackass tank in 5,000 gear just trying to use one and only one button (no excuse for 1100 dps) and so I got plenty of time to watch me being the only guy plugging away |
| 23:10.03 | Dagmar | A few times it meant that I really *was* just standing there auto-shooting |
| 23:10.19 | Adys | dont |
| 23:10.19 | Dagmar | Everyone else running around screaming in a panic |
| 23:10.20 | Adys | fucking |
| 23:10.21 | Adys | use |
| 23:10.23 | Adys | gearscore |
| 23:10.34 | Fisker | a |
| 23:10.34 | Fisker | g |
| 23:10.35 | Fisker | r |
| 23:10.35 | Dagmar | It's |
| 23:10.35 | Dagmar | less |
| 23:10.35 | Fisker | e |
| 23:10.36 | Fisker | d |
| 23:10.37 | Dagmar | typing |
| 23:10.37 | Dagmar | than |
| 23:10.38 | Dagmar | saying |
| 23:10.40 | Dagmar | full |
| 23:10.42 | Dagmar | 25-man |
| 23:10.43 | Dagmar | gear |
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| 23:11.01 | Adys | 5,000 gear, 25man gear |
| 23:11.01 | nevcairiel | I seriously hate when people say "in 5,000 gear", like i know what that means, or would care to find out =P |
| 23:11.03 | cbreak | what's 5.000 gear? |
| 23:11.05 | Adys | its one fuckign character less |
| 23:11.17 | cbreak | level 5 gear? |
| 23:11.23 | Adys | and as a matter of fact yeah, when you say 25man gear everyone fucking knows what you're talking about |
| 23:11.29 | Dagmar | Well, I'll send you a memo when I decide to give a damn about that |
| 23:11.31 | foxlit | in tier Y |
| 23:11.36 | Adys | people with a real brain in this channel dont because they dont use retarded addons |
| 23:11.53 | nevcairiel | seriously, i would never even consider using gear score |
| 23:12.13 | Fisker | yay industrial |
| 23:12.16 | Fisker | i could solo one of them |
| 23:12.32 | Fisker | doubt i can take on the last one though :( |
| 23:12.34 | Dagmar | Try to be a little less of a jackass about it |
| 23:12.48 | amro | the whole point is so that one day, you can say "it's... over nine thousand!" |
| 23:12.51 | Dagmar | There's not much difference between saying 5000 and saying >219 |
| 23:13.02 | nevcairiel | except that >219 everyone can understand |
| 23:13.08 | nevcairiel | i have no clue what 5000 means |
| 23:13.11 | Adys | there is one fucking difference, I can look up 219 gear without having to install an addon |
| 23:13.18 | Dagmar | I'm not making any bloody promises about whether or not the guy can tank ulduar or something, and it doesn't even bloody matter because it was Heroic Utgarde Pinnacle |
| 23:13.21 | cbreak | I think I have about 7000 gear |
| 23:13.25 | Dagmar | My freaking DK can tank that in blues and greens |
| 23:13.30 | cbreak | on my mage |
| 23:13.39 | foxlit | wonders why he's seeing "must have 2700 gearscore" requirements on some raids |
| 23:14.02 | Dagmar | The point being if you've got arbitrary large number X then there's no reason to barely be able to keep aggro from a hunter doing the stereo-typical AFK raid-mode |
| 23:14.04 | cbreak | I don't know this gearscore |
| 23:14.15 | Dagmar | foxlit: Only 2,700? |
| 23:14.16 | Dagmar | heh |
| 23:14.23 | cbreak | is it related with rawr? |
| 23:14.31 | Dagmar | It's about as accurate |
| 23:14.32 | foxlit | Indeed. I'm having trouble reconciling that with your 5k/7k numbers. |
| 23:14.34 | cbreak | rawr raiting? |
| 23:14.45 | Adys | its some shitty addon that averages out a rating based on your gear ilvl and some other stuff |
| 23:14.49 | nevcairiel | Our point just is that 5.000 is just soem magic number for us, which could mean *anything*, from greens to icc epics |
| 23:14.58 | Adys | its flawed, its overhyped and its retarded |
| 23:14.59 | Dagmar | It's number juggling based mainly on ilevel and useless nonsense I think |
| 23:15.09 | cbreak | addons can't calculate it |
| 23:15.14 | amro | my gear is S-RANK |
| 23:15.23 | cbreak | at least not accurately enough to be useful |
| 23:15.34 | cbreak | amro: omg! are you listed in the bingo book? |
| 23:15.47 | Dagmar | In coarse numbers it it, for deciding whether or not someone can do uber-raids it's useless |
| 23:16.10 | amro | cbreak: 3 times. |
| 23:16.17 | Adys | its also a literal brainfuck |
| 23:16.27 | foxlit | http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8769/wowscrnshot122309203014.jpg << Shock, horror. |
| 23:16.32 | cbreak | once for each hand and once for the remaining foot? :) |
| 23:16.46 | Adys | its like people have had a large dildo in their head and now they look at their gear and if they dont have their shiny addon with big numbers they're all "buuuuuuuhhhhhhhh" |
| 23:16.58 | nevcairiel | I've always wondered how paladins can stand those freaking big blessing timers |
| 23:17.03 | nevcairiel | i see it so often on screenshot |
| 23:17.05 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 23:17.05 | Zhinjio | dildo in their head? wow. |
| 23:17.06 | Dagmar | If I see 1,800 I tell them to kindly put their gear back on |
| 23:17.19 | foxlit | nevcairiel: PallyPower is one annoying piece of UI design that seems to persist for some reason. |
| 23:17.33 | Adys | foxlit: because it's got the Power! |
| 23:18.38 | Fisker | he's too powerful industrial ! |
| 23:18.51 | Zhinjio | I spent alot of time trying to convince my guildies to swtich to zomgbuffs, but they all thought it was too complicated or not as easy or didn't lick their balls or who knows what |
| 23:19.46 | Fisker | so you're saying they're retarded? |
| 23:20.01 | Dagmar | No one knows you wear the safety helmet until you turn on the webcam |
| 23:20.37 | Dagmar | Hmm.. does zomgbuffs handle drums? |
| 23:21.02 | Zhinjio | yeah, they're pretty retarded |
| 23:21.06 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 23:21.12 | Zhinjio | I stopped raiding anyway, so it was a moot point |
| 23:21.15 | Fisker | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Durotan&n=Neverdied <-damn achievement whores |
| 23:21.33 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: i agree wholeheatedly with that |
| 23:21.33 | foxlit | But basically, your buffing mod needs to have one damn button. And not zomgoverninethousandiconsinconfiguration. |
| 23:21.56 | Dagmar | I'd just be happy if I didn't have to carefully peruse all the buffs to figure out of I need to play some drums |
| 23:22.01 | Thunder_Child | people look at me crazy when i say pallypower is horrid |
| 23:22.32 | Thunder_Child | which i find impressive that they can look at me like that through a game |
| 23:23.53 | Dagmar | Hmm... I think it's time to send some emails to the people making the TCG and tell them to get with the times |
| 23:24.12 | Dagmar | http://www3.printwarcraft.com/homepage.html <-- theres NO reason this shoudn't be getting done as novelty trading cards for yer toon |
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| 23:30.22 | mikma | yeah, the ending of portal was cool |
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