| 00:00.52 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (n=MPower@24.138.234.110) |
| 00:00.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 00:01.59 | WobWork | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell |
| 00:03.23 | *** join/#wowuidev theorb (n=theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 00:05.23 | DJJeff2 | yaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 00:06.00 | DJJeff2 | with the new fubar out |
| 00:06.07 | DJJeff2 | the buffs is fixed |
| 00:06.12 | DJJeff2 | im sooooooooooo happy |
| 00:06.57 | Arrowmaster | youre welcome |
| 00:07.05 | Arrowmaster | now pad my paypal account |
| 00:07.20 | WobWork | foxlit: it's pretty awesome, that |
| 00:07.37 | WobWork | I wish it worked with the mounted forms too =P |
| 00:07.43 | WobWork | Rocket ghostwolf! |
| 00:13.18 | Arrowmaster | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=7077522939618262116&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=Final+Fantasy+Versus+XIII&sc=Global&cp=1&sp=&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~q46696e616c2046616e74617379205665727375732058494949~~ncabcat0700000%23%231%23%231&list=y&usc=All+Categories&nrp=15&p=[promotion%2C+synonymns]&_D%3Ap=+&pu=defaultusr&_D%3Apu=+&pt=1247374801&iht=n& |
| 00:13.24 | Arrowmaster | _DARGS=%2Fsite%2Fen_US%2Fsearch%2Ffragments%2Fincludes%2Folssearchparameters.jsp.frmSearchResults |
| 00:13.27 | Arrowmaster | long url is long |
| 00:13.30 | Arrowmaster | wtf at last item in list |
| 00:13.40 | Polarina | Am I hearing wrong that there's a private beta for Cataclysm out? |
| 00:13.47 | NightHawkTheSane | dude, bit.ly, or something, that shit :P |
| 00:13.53 | Arrowmaster | you are wrong |
| 00:13.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Polarina: you probably are hearing wrong |
| 00:14.01 | Polarina | Ok, good to know. |
| 00:14.17 | NightHawkTheSane | if ANYTHING, there'd be a f&f alpha, which would be totally NDAd, but i doubt there's evne that |
| 00:14.17 | Arrowmaster | its probably a phishing scam |
| 00:14.26 | kd3 | alphas are always under NDA, so if you're hearing anything about it, it's wrong |
| 00:14.41 | Polarina | Ok. Thanks. :) |
| 00:14.42 | Arrowmaster | kd3: other than that it exists? |
| 00:14.57 | foxlit | I hear there's a private beta being developed and QA'ed right now! |
| 00:14.58 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on the terms of the NDA, but i think even that might be against it |
| 00:15.03 | foxlit | Who'd have thunk? |
| 00:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | dont know blizz's NDA terms so *shrug* |
| 00:15.30 | foxlit | It's so private, that only the people actually working on it are there. |
| 00:15.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (i=5548e1dc@gateway/web/freenode/x-ajdbialubghbudiw) |
| 00:15.46 | Polarina | I'd better activate my account then. |
| 00:15.50 | Polarina | It's been frozen for a year. :( |
| 00:16.23 | foxlit | Why would you want to beta-test their game if you haven't been playing for a year? |
| 00:16.34 | Polarina | foxlit: Because it sounds to awesome. :) |
| 00:16.40 | Polarina | s/to/too/ |
| 00:17.00 | foxlit | But it'a pointless, resultless "work" that ultimately spoils your live realms experience. |
| 00:17.26 | Polarina | foxlit: Just for the exploration. :) |
| 00:17.33 | WobWork | this is why I -like- the concept of a beta |
| 00:17.37 | WobWork | and love it for testing addons |
| 00:17.42 | WobWork | but would never actually play =( |
| 00:18.42 | foxlit | You'd think that 3.3 would be a better /game/ than the beta in a week or so. |
| 00:18.53 | Polarina | foxlit: Why a week? |
| 00:18.57 | WobWork | cause the saddest thing ever is getting the Ultimate random doodad that has a 0.0000000001% droprate on beta/ptr |
| 00:19.18 | foxlit | I project it'll take a week for instance servers to recover from ZOMG TRIUMPH FROM HEROICS MUST GET GEAR NOW rush. |
| 00:19.43 | foxlit | Based on no reliable data whatsoever. |
| 00:20.01 | Polarina | WobWork: ? |
| 00:20.10 | Polarina | foxlit: Ah, I see. |
| 00:20.14 | WobWork | Polarina: You play on a beta or a ptr |
| 00:20.21 | WobWork | then the green protodrake drops from an egg |
| 00:20.30 | WobWork | or you win a legendary |
| 00:20.39 | WobWork | now what? =P |
| 00:20.46 | WobWork | congrats |
| 00:20.50 | Stanzilla | I had the green drake on ulduar ptr |
| 00:20.52 | WobWork | you can never use it in game =P |
| 00:23.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i had your mom on the icecrown ptr. |
| 00:27.40 | Kraps | Shirik: |
| 00:28.14 | foxlit | so, licensing crap on forums again. |
| 00:30.21 | Arrowmaster | i had the red bug mount the first day of the AQ ptr |
| 00:30.42 | foxlit | I got the raid mount the first AQ40 raid I did on one of my characters. |
| 00:31.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah so did i, and it was red |
| 00:32.05 | *** part/#wowuidev geco2 (n=andi@ppp-88-217-11-0.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 00:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. |
| 00:32.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i keep forgetting about those mounts |
| 00:32.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I need to grab a friend or two and hit up AQ40 |
| 00:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont have any of those |
| 00:33.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Not even counting the red one, the remaining 3 (its 3 right?) should be enough to put me over 100, after the rest of the pvp & argent mounts, i think |
| 00:33.49 | foxlit | s/ai/e/ |
| 00:34.04 | foxlit | blue, yellow, green, NightHawkTheSane. |
| 00:34.09 | NightHawkTheSane | nods |
| 00:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, no, still might be one short. but if i get off my ass and get the red proto drake too.. |
| 00:34.47 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: solo it |
| 00:35.20 | Arrowmaster | i can solo everything upto the first boss on my warlock |
| 00:35.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: think i can as a ele or resto shammy? |
| 00:35.59 | Arrowmaster | fine take a dps warrior |
| 00:36.08 | Arrowmaster | pussy |
| 00:36.16 | NightHawkTheSane | actually it was an honest question. :P |
| 00:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i've never tried. maybe i will |
| 00:37.28 | Arrowmaster | the 4 packs will rape your face depending on the abilities |
| 00:38.01 | Arrowmaster | i cant out dps the healing one |
| 00:38.05 | foxlit | "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME no longer returns true. " << what the who now? |
| 00:38.22 | Arrowmaster | its never returned true |
| 00:38.30 | foxlit | It's been true-equivalent, though. |
| 00:38.42 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21723844583&sid=1 |
| 00:40.41 | foxlit | Weirdest exchange ever; I cannot replicate *any* of it. |
| 00:45.18 | Shadowed | ..... |
| 00:48.50 | foxlit | SSBM beating HL2 in game-of-the-decade polls? Travesty! |
| 00:48.56 | DJJeff | Arrowmaster: are you an author of FuBar ? |
| 00:49.10 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:49.20 | DJJeff | you are? |
| 00:52.52 | DJJeff | ckknight is the main guy |
| 00:52.56 | DJJeff | I will donate to him |
| 00:54.08 | Arrowmaster | and i will see 0% of it |
| 00:54.19 | DJJeff | hrmm |
| 00:54.21 | DJJeff | lol |
| 00:54.22 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 00:54.36 | DJJeff | I am a Curse Premium member |
| 00:54.45 | DJJeff | I think Curse supports authors |
| 00:54.53 | DJJeff | so you should get some :) |
| 00:55.03 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 00:55.03 | Shadowed | Technically |
| 00:55.11 | Shadowed | he gets like one one billionth of a penny |
| 00:55.16 | DJJeff | nice |
| 00:55.31 | WobWork | score! |
| 00:55.39 | DJJeff | DING! |
| 00:58.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Amarande (i=amarande@68-191-37-155.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 00:58.32 | Amarande | Hmm. |
| 00:58.40 | Amarande | Anyone else been seeing double death animations on mobs lately? ... |
| 00:59.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: yes. i assume its just some glitch. |
| 00:59.39 | NightHawkTheSane | and, i'm heading home. back in a few. |
| 01:13.11 | Xuerian | Amarande: A friend was seeing the same thing. |
| 01:14.41 | Amarande | god. frickin people who decline their frickin ready checks just suck. :| |
| 01:16.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C020E.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 01:18.46 | WobWork | Amarande: ... better than autoclicking when not ready? |
| 01:21.59 | NightHawkTheSane | what if they're not ready? |
| 01:22.02 | NightHawkTheSane | what would you have them do? |
| 01:22.24 | KarlKFI|work | wait for it to expire and for everyone to assume they're afk, of course |
| 01:22.25 | Amarande | yay, orange mara again |
| 01:22.32 | Amarande | Night: it's like signing up for a raid and not showing up :P |
| 01:22.42 | Amarande | it inconveniences your fellow dungeoneers heh |
| 01:22.42 | WobWork | pft |
| 01:22.50 | WobWork | If I'm going for a bio |
| 01:22.54 | NightHawkTheSane | no, its like saying "oh, shit, i'm actually not ready, i need a sec" |
| 01:22.55 | WobWork | I'm going to click not ready =P |
| 01:23.07 | WobWork | cause ffs I'm not holding it in for -you- lot |
| 01:23.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, am i missing something, or did we lose the ability to resize the quest tracker watch frame thingy? |
| 01:23.30 | WobWork | I heard someone in my guild was having trouble moving it |
| 01:23.42 | WobWork | haven't been questing, so haven't seen it |
| 01:23.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, sexymap lets me move it fine. but it's too narrow |
| 01:23.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i have a freakin wide screen monitor, i can have a wider than normal quest tracker, thank you :P |
| 01:24.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet i could edit the config file manually, but thats a pita. wonder if i could write an addon.. although i'd probably break stuff trying >< |
| 01:25.46 | kd3 | they changed it or something. it used to be movable irrespective of the minimap, now it isn't |
| 01:25.53 | kd3 | has been trying to resize the damn thing to make it bigger |
| 01:26.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 01:26.19 | NightHawkTheSane | sexy map does make it movable though, if you just hit 'show movers' |
| 01:27.31 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: It's not trivially resizable |
| 01:27.45 | Antiarc | I tried to add some "flex" to it with Sexymap's hackery of it, but it's a weirdass piece of code |
| 01:27.56 | Antiarc | It doesn't follow conventional frame positioning rules AT ALL. |
| 01:27.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ;\ |
| 01:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | well thats a pain. it looks really obnoxious having stuff wrapped >< |
| 01:29.09 | WobWork | http://calgarycosplay.deviantart.com/art/PedoBear-Hoodie-Costume-143863469 |
| 01:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/2364 |
| 01:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | that video is awesome |
| 01:31.15 | ScytheBlade1 | also nsfw |
| 01:31.33 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 01:31.36 | Shirik | why you ping me! |
| 01:31.50 | theorbtwo | Ascii.textfiles.com has videos on it? |
| 01:31.52 | Kraps | you first |
| 01:31.57 | Shirik | I had a reason! |
| 01:32.06 | *** join/#wowuidev |ckknight| (i=kvirc@c-71-207-201-84.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 01:32.11 | Kraps | orly? |
| 01:32.23 | Shirik | (18:12:25) (@Shirik) Kraps :( |
| 01:32.23 | Shirik | (18:12:41) (@Shirik) I made a simple comment at AfD and it has spiralled out of control :P |
| 01:32.23 | Shirik | (18:12:57) (@Shirik) 3 screens full of policy debate! |
| 01:32.38 | Kraps | niiiiice |
| 01:32.41 | Kraps | linky |
| 01:32.57 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sandy_Creek_High_School |
| 01:32.58 | Shirik | which lead to |
| 01:33.13 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#All_High_Schools_Notable.3F_GUIDELINE_DEBATE |
| 01:34.31 | Kraps | heavy |
| 01:34.45 | Shirik | I didn't expect it to explode like this, lol |
| 01:34.51 | Kraps | brb, slapping jokers goons |
| 01:35.16 | Arrowmaster | xchat fails at marking the right parts of that line as a url |
| 01:35.35 | Arrowmaster | everything except the part in () is a link..... |
| 01:35.58 | Shirik | tbh I'm not sure ( and ) are valid URI characters |
| 01:35.59 | Arrowmaster | oh it thinks the part after () is a channel |
| 01:36.09 | Arrowmaster | they are |
| 01:36.12 | Shirik | google chrome tends to do some un-urlencodingf |
| 01:36.45 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: lol at it thinking it's a channel |
| 01:36.46 | Shirik | that's kinda fail |
| 01:37.02 | Shirik | I guess it stems from the misrecognition of () |
| 01:41.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko1 (n=Kandoko@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:48.42 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: that video IS awesome |
| 01:49.09 | WobWork | what is it? |
| 01:49.14 | WobWork | being at work probably shouldn't watch it |
| 01:49.51 | ScytheBlade1 | told you |
| 01:50.00 | ScytheBlade1 | and nsfw for language |
| 01:50.30 | Adys | its also 40 min long |
| 01:56.15 | Amarande | cool, my hunter just got, in a supposed satchel of "useful" goods |
| 01:56.22 | Amarande | a ring with ... stamina, int, and ... mp5? :( |
| 01:56.23 | Amarande | FAIL |
| 01:56.42 | theorbtwo | Funny, I was constantly low on mana when I played a hunter. |
| 01:57.21 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: do i only get that little 'addon author' identifier thingy on wowi for being lead on a project? |
| 01:57.55 | Cairenn | hmmm, something we didn't discuss, will poke Dolby about it :) |
| 01:58.22 | Arrowmaster | it also says 0 for uploads even though i just uploaded fubar 3.6.5 |
| 01:58.37 | Dolby | right now yes, you'll soon get a badge for being a team member |
| 01:59.19 | Arrowmaster | pff you know me, i should get a badge of my own |
| 01:59.19 | Dolby | just need to integrate things further |
| 01:59.22 | Arrowmaster | points at cloak |
| 01:59.28 | Cairenn | huggles Arrowmaster |
| 02:00.31 | Amarande | theorbtwo: yeah, but itemizing for mp5 on a hunter is a rather icky thing |
| 02:01.15 | Arrowmaster | i know a hunter that was dual wielding weapons with +22 int enchants when AV came out |
| 02:01.29 | Amarande | Arrow: did they have the int->ap talent then? |
| 02:01.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:01.53 | Arrowmaster | it was purely for the more mana |
| 02:02.26 | Arrowmaster | but hes also the only hunter i know of with a ToEP |
| 02:02.33 | Arrowmaster | we all wanted to kill him |
| 02:02.35 | Legorol | Dolby: oh noes, not badges! People will want to farm it |
| 02:02.36 | Legorol | ducks |
| 02:03.02 | Cairenn | pokes Legorol |
| 02:03.16 | Legorol | it's true! the two basic rules of farming in WoW: |
| 02:03.25 | Legorol | 1) everything that's a badge, farm it |
| 02:03.33 | Legorol | 2) if it ain't a badge, call it a badge. then see 1) |
| 02:04.02 | Legorol | (referring to people calling Emblem of X, for all values of X, as simply "badge") |
| 02:04.53 | Arrowmaster | they started as badges |
| 02:06.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:07.16 | Shirik | tackles Cairenn |
| 02:07.24 | Cairenn | oofs and falls over |
| 02:08.04 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:08.11 | Amarande | I'm assuming the dungeon finder only ever queues you for stuff that's yellow? |
| 02:08.17 | Amarande | (if you went to the specific dungeons list, that is) |
| 02:08.56 | Amarande | heh this poor priest |
| 02:09.12 | Amarande | he dung 42 in orange mara, complained about getting orange mara 7 times in a row, and was hoping for ZF now that he had dung |
| 02:09.25 | Amarande | since I just hit 42, I'm looking at the dungeon finder and the only one that's yellow ... |
| 02:09.28 | Amarande | heh, poor guy |
| 02:09.34 | Amarande | orange mara for you! :D |
| 02:12.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 02:14.44 | NeoTron | know what's amazing? |
| 02:14.50 | NeoTron | people running instances at level 41-42 |
| 02:15.13 | Amarande | Neo: now that there's cross-server, it's surprisingly popular |
| 02:15.21 | Amarande | guess there weren't enough people on individual servers so people gave up before 3.3 |
| 02:15.28 | Amarande | I think they messed up with Maraudon in the dungeon finder though |
| 02:15.34 | Amarande | isn't the purple area lower level than the orange, last I remember? |
| 02:15.52 | Amarande | the orange has level 45 and 46 bosses and gives loot needing level 46, and yet it's what you're given at 41-42 by the finder |
| 02:16.01 | Amarande | I remember the purple being a little lower, last time I was there |
| 02:16.39 | Arrowmaster | i thought both sides were about the same but the last 3rd section was higher |
| 02:17.00 | Amarande | yeah, 3rd section was higher, but I seem to remember purple being a lil lower |
| 02:17.51 | Jerub | when i'm levelling my toons, i totally plan on having myself and whoever i'm levelling with a) in a group and b) in LFG finder for random level appropriate dungeons. |
| 02:18.01 | Jerub | i totall yprefer dungeoning to levelling through quests/grinding. |
| 02:18.34 | Arrowmaster | can you abuse the new disenchant option option outside of dungeons? |
| 02:19.09 | Jerub | hehe |
| 02:19.25 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: you mean, invite someone to the group who sits in dal and get them to DE stuff long distance? |
| 02:20.02 | Jerub | has anyone heard about people being suspended for spending emblems of frost? |
| 02:20.02 | Arrowmaster | i remember using grouploot on whites so i didnt have to remind people to break the corpses in silithus so i could get the chitten |
| 02:20.53 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: no theres a distance limit on looting but as long as its a party youll still get the roll window even if you are the only person allowed to roll |
| 02:21.13 | Amarande | hunter play question, meanwhile |
| 02:21.21 | Amarande | am I really supposed to have to FD that often in instances? |
| 02:21.30 | Amarande | (lemme guess ... "it has a half minute cooldown for a reason") |
| 02:21.35 | Arrowmaster | just wondering, can you roll disenchant on greens when outside of dungeons |
| 02:21.55 | Amarande | I *think* you might be able to, but you probably have to set looting to NBG |
| 02:22.02 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: if you are low level and the other people suck, probably |
| 02:22.40 | Jerub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21726113572&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 |
| 02:24.33 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=doingwha@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
| 02:24.36 | DWSR | http://ineedahandjob.com/Handjob/Order.html |
| 02:24.40 | DWSR | SFW. |
| 02:28.44 | Legorol | Jerub: suspended for spending emblems of frost? what? |
| 02:29.11 | Legorol | a) why would that be a crime b) are there even enough emblems available atm to buy anything? |
| 02:31.21 | bleeter | damnit, forum maint |
| 02:31.24 | bleeter | Legorol: hai! :) |
| 02:31.37 | Legorol | hai bleeter |
| 02:31.49 | Jerub | Legorol: because people were getting EoF for every random group. |
| 02:31.50 | bleeter | topic not found... hmm |
| 02:31.58 | Legorol | gosh, that's a warm greeting bleeter, i haven't gotten one of those for a while |
| 02:32.05 | Legorol | Jerub: woot? |
| 02:32.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: So uh, on the (now old) topic of SexyMap, any chance of getting it to be able to move the LFD button? :) |
| 02:32.11 | Jerub | I got at least 12 extra badges for it myself, but i know of people who farmed heroics for an entire day and got 70+ |
| 02:32.36 | Legorol | Jerub: that's.. quite a bug. having said that, they shouldn't be bannable because it's not obvious that they are aware it's a bug |
| 02:32.50 | Jerub | Legorol: people have been suspended for spending the badges. |
| 02:33.00 | Legorol | that's what i think is too harsh |
| 02:33.03 | Jerub | and the blue response on the forums has been anaemic. |
| 02:33.19 | Legorol | because if you just log in on patch day, see that "cool, the LFD tool lets me farm emblems of frost", and you proceed with it, |
| 02:33.27 | Legorol | you can't really be faulted |
| 02:33.31 | Jerub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21724983004&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 02:33.34 | bleeter | ah, stupid terminal size |
| 02:33.35 | Amarande | they probably have to be suspended so there is time to fix the gear appropriately |
| 02:33.43 | Legorol | that's a good point |
| 02:33.59 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMfm-M5FhqE&feature=popular |
| 02:34.46 | Jerub | I have an addon i want to write, but it's complicated. |
| 02:34.46 | bleeter | Legorol: LFD tool says 'the first time each day you get badges', it's obvious exploit imo |
| 02:34.46 | Jerub | I guess it's complicated. |
| 02:34.46 | Jerub | I dunno really. |
| 02:34.48 | Jerub | I want to be able to indiciate how geared a healer and tank is in a random dungeon. |
| 02:35.18 | Legorol | bleeter: i don't entirely agree with you. The new dungeon system and rewards for it are sufficiently complicated that i had to explain several times to people how it works |
| 02:35.20 | Jerub | because the way i run randoms now is I spawn in the dungeon, i hit my buffs, target my healer, /inspect, then based on that ilvl i know if I should ninja-pull or chain-pull. |
| 02:35.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Balreign (n=Balreign@ANantes-156-1-91-9.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:35.38 | Legorol | if i have to explain to intelligent people how it works, i don't blame the general idiotic wow population for failing to read |
| 02:35.58 | bleeter | Legorol: I dunno mate, I read the text, understood 'you can use this once a day and will get badges' |
| 02:36.17 | bleeter | clever people can sometimes be stupid, just look at us two! >< |
| 02:36.17 | Jerub | bleeter: RANDOM DUNGEON WOOO. |
| 02:36.20 | Jerub | (explanation over) |
| 02:36.29 | Legorol | bleeter: i'll be a bit of a snob here. I generally met three class of people. Average WoW player, intelligent WoW player, and people in this channel. |
| 02:36.55 | Legorol | Jerub: may i recommenda nifty lil addon called GearScore for your purposes :o) |
| 02:37.03 | Legorol | and then once you use it, i'll have to kill you |
| 02:37.05 | *** join/#wowuidev kdtresh (n=kdtresh@adsl-64-149-82-9.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:37.11 | Jerub | Legorol: I don't want gearscore. |
| 02:37.22 | Jerub | Legorol: for a million reasons. |
| 02:37.30 | Jerub | one of those is death. |
| 02:37.55 | bleeter | Legorol: if the 'reward' was something inconsequential, I'd tend to agree. but even for Capt Obvious Regular WoW Average player, such 'giveaway' of badges should set off alarm bells of some type... |
| 02:38.30 | Legorol | bleeter: what Jerub said. "woot, rundeom dungeon" read no further |
| 02:38.48 | Legorol | the idea that you get a different reward the first time you do something, and that it's all handled automatically, is a novel concept |
| 02:39.03 | Thunder_Child | he said random acutally |
| 02:39.07 | Jerub | the rewards are even spammed out by random rolls |
| 02:39.55 | Jerub | the ui says the reward for the dungeon when you queue is triumph, but when you deefeat the last bad guy you get 2x frost, 1x triumph, then some abyss crystals and dream shards. |
| 02:39.55 | Legorol | anyway, i wouldn't treat it as an exploit, so no permaban |
| 02:39.55 | bleeter | Legorol: not really, daily BG. this is just, dungeon stuff. |
| 02:40.00 | *** join/#wowuidev mojosdojo_ (n=gdbzet26@79.239.246.107) |
| 02:40.07 | Legorol | but i understand if you need to suspend whilst you fix |
| 02:40.14 | Legorol | bleeter: not true, you have to accept a quest and then turn it in |
| 02:40.17 | bleeter | Legorol: depends if they stuff's spent |
| 02:40.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (n=Creek@67-197-1-37.rh1.dyn.cm.comporium.net) |
| 02:40.21 | bleeter | *the |
| 02:40.21 | Legorol | that is a pretty obvious thing |
| 02:40.44 | bleeter | I thought this was had to join via LFD tool |
| 02:40.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi (n=Bibi@unaffiliated/bibi) |
| 02:42.11 | Jerub | bleeter: not BG |
| 02:42.13 | DWSR | the new LFD system, does it try to match you with people of similar gear level? |
| 02:42.31 | Jerub | DWSR: it refuses to let you do harder heroics by a coarse metric. |
| 02:42.38 | DWSR | Jerub: I have mostly 245 |
| 02:42.39 | Jerub | so you don't have a new 80 doing HoR |
| 02:42.48 | DWSR | Jerub: I'm talking about matching people's gear levels together. |
| 02:42.51 | Jerub | but i don't know about gear matching |
| 02:43.06 | Jerub | my gear is way better than some of my healers though. |
| 02:43.08 | DWSR | because the 5 groups I've been in have all had people with at least ToC quality gear. |
| 02:43.17 | Jerub | dunno |
| 02:43.22 | ajmitch | DWSR: I don't think so |
| 02:43.27 | Legorol | i don't think it does |
| 02:43.29 | Jerub | I had a dungeon where the healer was in 200-219's and i'm in 232 ish |
| 02:43.30 | DWSR | Though, I suppose that that's probably just a consequence of Triumph dropping off of trees. |
| 02:43.40 | Jerub | mmmtriumph |
| 02:43.42 | Legorol | i had a heroic AN run where one of the dps was a paladin in blue tanking gear (i have full 245) |
| 02:43.49 | Legorol | he was pulling 750 dps |
| 02:44.05 | kdtresh | i still have a blue piece of gear |
| 02:44.08 | Legorol | for some reason i couldn't votekick him |
| 02:44.08 | ajmitch | impressive |
| 02:44.11 | DWSR | I lock tank in those situations. |
| 02:44.13 | Jerub | i respecced my feral to be total bear instead of kitty/bear |
| 02:44.14 | kdtresh | effing bracers never drop for me |
| 02:44.28 | kdtresh | i should probably shuffle enchants and/or gems, i'm at 553 def |
| 02:44.33 | Legorol | kdtresh: have it crafted |
| 02:44.33 | ajmitch | kdtresh: can't get crafted ones? |
| 02:44.34 | Jerub | a) I love my new ohshit buttons b) I'm doing 2.5k dps as bear |
| 02:44.37 | Legorol | orbz should now be very cheap |
| 02:44.43 | kdtresh | i don't tank very often |
| 02:44.48 | DWSR | I've had bad healers, but never badly geared healers, same with tanks. |
| 02:45.01 | DWSR | Jerub: You say that as if 2.5k DPS is a lot. |
| 02:45.07 | Legorol | at any rate, your assertion that it matches by gear has been disproved |
| 02:45.08 | Jerub | DWSR: I'm a tank. |
| 02:45.17 | DWSR | Jerub: Again, you say that as if 2.5k DPS is a lot. |
| 02:45.22 | Jerub | DWSR: isn't it for a tank? |
| 02:45.26 | Jerub | uh, single target. |
| 02:45.27 | DWSR | no. |
| 02:45.29 | Legorol | it is decent for a tank |
| 02:45.29 | Jerub | not aoe. |
| 02:45.42 | DWSR | It's decent, but not zomg |
| 02:45.52 | Jerub | DWSR: I never see tanks above 1.5 really :/ |
| 02:45.53 | Legorol | not zomg, but it's more than many dps in heroics :) |
| 02:46.05 | Legorol | it's enough for you to end up top on the meter with some regularity |
| 02:46.08 | Jerub | Legorol: I topped DPS in a heroic. |
| 02:46.14 | Jerub | in a LFD group |
| 02:46.17 | Legorol | Jerub: that's not uncommon actually |
| 02:46.27 | Legorol | there are a few factors that make it easy for tanks to top meter |
| 02:46.38 | bleeter | so I guess today's a bad day to decide to get Netbeans.exe... new release and their d/l servers are fubar |
| 02:46.51 | Legorol | You are the first to go in, hence you get maximum dps time. The mobs die so quickly that the delay with which dps comes in matter. |
| 02:46.51 | DWSR | My warrior tank in my guild can do 3.5k or higher. |
| 02:47.02 | Legorol | Also you can afford to hit all mobs with maximum pew pew power. |
| 02:47.02 | Jerub | DWSR: sweeeet |
| 02:47.05 | ajmitch | DWSR: in heroics? |
| 02:47.08 | DWSR | ajmitch: yes. |
| 02:47.13 | DWSR | Well geared tank. |
| 02:47.24 | DWSR | Not 258 well geared, but 232/245. |
| 02:47.27 | Legorol | DWSR: define well geared. 3.5k is pretty good indeed. I only do about 3-3.2k in heroics. |
| 02:47.27 | ajmitch | that's doing pretty well, and I imagine specced for it as well |
| 02:47.35 | DWSR | ajmitch: Nope. |
| 02:47.46 | DWSR | Legorol: ToGC10/ToC25 gear. |
| 02:47.55 | Jerub | i'm gonna take my tank to toc10 i think. previously i've only healed (and dps in odd moments) |
| 02:48.15 | Legorol | Jerub: enjoy toc10. I personally didn't like the place much, but the novelty is fun |
| 02:48.25 | Legorol | imo Ulduar > ToC by far |
| 02:48.32 | Jerub | Legorol: I need to gear up my tank and toc10 drops are the next thing on my hitlist. |
| 02:48.41 | ajmitch | DWSR: not tanking with deep wounds then? |
| 02:49.04 | Legorol | Jerub: plus triumph gear i take it? |
| 02:49.12 | DWSR | ajmitch: No idea. |
| 02:49.20 | DWSR | Just know that he does. |
| 02:49.51 | Jerub | Legorol: meh. triumph gear is only ilvl 232. |
| 02:50.04 | ajmitch | DWSR: I've found it to be a noticeable difference, pity that I have to go for improved demo shout instead |
| 02:50.16 | Jerub | there's shoulders and a hat i can get with triumph badges, but that breaks both my T8.5 and my T9.0 |
| 02:50.41 | Legorol | have you got full 9? |
| 02:50.44 | Jerub | I'm tihnking about going ilvl245 triumph badge hat + ilvl 245 lw crafted chest at the same time. |
| 02:51.03 | Jerub | 2T8.5 is head/chest, T9.0 is hand/shoulder |
| 02:51.04 | Legorol | for my dps gear i went with 245 crafted chest + 4pc T9 |
| 02:51.17 | Legorol | (i'm not a droid) |
| 02:51.30 | Legorol | i like the fact that there are alternatives |
| 02:51.44 | Legorol | i'm going to break the set now that the set bonus has been nerfed in 3.3 |
| 02:52.17 | Jerub | i don't think 4T9 feral set bonus is worth it. |
| 02:52.32 | Jerub | (decreased ohshit button CD) |
| 02:55.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:56.27 | Kraps | http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/staffblog/122009/5358_WoW-33s-Dungeon-Finder-and-the-Community |
| 02:59.17 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: So since fubar is dead (I've not been using it anyway), what's the primo replacement(s)? :p |
| 02:59.27 | Jerub | Kraps: interesting points. |
| 02:59.37 | Arrowmaster | http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/addons-using-ldb#Data_Display_addons_ |
| 02:59.40 | Jerub | Kraps: although, i'm not sold on 'instancing being a solo activity' |
| 02:59.54 | Jerub | I've been doing a dungeon before leaving home in the morning. |
| 03:00.00 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Figured, but figured I'd ask anyway :P ty for link. |
| 03:00.04 | DWSR | I use Docking Station |
| 03:00.09 | Jerub | this morning I jumped online, did /g random dungeon, who's in? |
| 03:00.16 | Jerub | /invite guildmate |
| 03:00.25 | Jerub | then did it with a guildie :) |
| 03:02.39 | ajmitch | is glad to see that the mob positioning problem is acknowledged as a bug to actually be fixed |
| 03:02.45 | Xuerian | Kraps: I don't think they're right, in the end. It's going back to like it was in vanilla |
| 03:02.50 | Xuerian | I instanced *A LOT* in vanilla |
| 03:03.47 | Amarande | Fuck ... MP5 ring again |
| 03:03.52 | Torhal | DWSR: I dropped DockingStation for Bazooka. |
| 03:04.14 | Amarande | hmm, I should see what 4t9 is for hunters |
| 03:04.15 | DWSR | hmm]\ |
| 03:04.28 | Amarande | dammit |
| 03:04.32 | Amarande | wowhead won't let me search for "tier 9" |
| 03:04.59 | Jerub | wowwiki.com/Tier_9 |
| 03:05.14 | Jerub | i always start with wowwiki.com because the urls are easy |
| 03:06.01 | Amarande | ooh, *nice*, crit serpent sting ticks |
| 03:06.59 | Amarande | but that's the 2p bonus ... looks like the 4p one is kinda meh :| |
| 03:08.42 | Jerub | I want this: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50052 |
| 03:08.58 | Amarande | sheesh, the t8 hunter set bonuses are better than the t9, at least at first glance |
| 03:09.22 | Adys | Firefox could not download the search plugin from: |
| 03:09.22 | Adys | http://localhost:8000/static/opensearch.xml |
| 03:09.25 | Adys | thanks firefox |
| 03:09.26 | Jerub | yeah, i'm unconvinced the set bonuses are worth enough |
| 03:09.35 | Adys | could you be a little less ... explicit? |
| 03:09.44 | Adys | just so I get a real challenge figuring your shit out |
| 03:09.57 | Jerub | crap. I want both the healer mace and the tank mace :/ |
| 03:10.57 | Adys | Remotely fetched favicons must not be larger than 10KB (see bug 361923). |
| 03:11.01 | Adys | https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Creating_OpenSearch_plugins_for_Firefox |
| 03:11.02 | Adys | what the fuck |
| 03:11.10 | Adys | Your server should serve OpenSearch plugins using the MIME type application/opensearchdescription+xml. |
| 03:11.16 | Adys | what the **FUCK** |
| 03:13.56 | theorbtwo | Adys: Why WTF? |
| 03:14.28 | Jerub | Adys: <3 |
| 03:14.39 | Adys | Jerub: ? |
| 03:14.50 | Adys | theorbtwo: because this is unnecessary |
| 03:15.16 | Amarande | wow, I almost read that as "remotely fetched favicons must be larger than 10KB" and was like WTF |
| 03:15.21 | Jerub | Adys: I love richous rage at stupid people |
| 03:15.33 | Amarande | not that that would be that epic of a screwup |
| 03:15.34 | Jerub | also, holy shit i like feral T10 set bonuses |
| 03:15.45 | Amarande | given things like, for instance, amazon's category database |
| 03:16.05 | Amarande | what do a joe montana football card, a zachary taylor dollar coin, and a portable generator all have in common? |
| 03:17.54 | Amarande | All of them are listed on Amazon as Red Sox fan gear. LOL |
| 03:17.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Maul_ (n=chatzill@71.16.45.228) |
| 03:22.13 | *** part/#wowuidev pompy (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 03:25.57 | Amarande | oh, no wonder I keep pulling aggro |
| 03:26.04 | Amarande | I forgot I turned my pet's growl off for an instance run :| |
| 03:27.02 | Arrowmaster | Adys: are you one of those people that thinks mime types arent important? |
| 03:27.21 | Adys | I didnt say that |
| 03:27.46 | Adys | but firefox doesnt accept application/xml for a perfectly valid xml subformat |
| 03:27.52 | Adys | subset even |
| 03:28.07 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 03:28.08 | Adys | go on |
| 03:28.10 | Adys | try to add it |
| 03:28.24 | Arrowmaster | add what? |
| 03:28.30 | Adys | search engine |
| 03:28.31 | Adys | to firefox |
| 03:28.36 | Arrowmaster | doesnt show it |
| 03:28.59 | Adys | on ff? |
| 03:29.00 | Arrowmaster | theres no <link> for it in <head> |
| 03:29.08 | Adys | ctrl-f5, its there |
| 03:29.35 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 03:30.10 | wereHamster | should there be a link? |
| 03:30.16 | ajmitch | it shows up in the search engine menu |
| 03:30.20 | Adys | <link rel="search" type="application/opensearchdescription+xml" href="/static/opensearch.xml" title="Sigrie"/> |
| 03:30.26 | Adys | its some caching bullshit |
| 03:30.29 | ajmitch | but then gives the "cannot download search plugin..." crap |
| 03:30.35 | Adys | yeah ajmitch |
| 03:30.36 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: there is a question in here btw http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28923 |
| 03:30.38 | Adys | thats because of its mime type |
| 03:30.42 | Adys | i have to figure apache out now |
| 03:31.39 | Arrowmaster | you can do it in your .htaccess |
| 03:31.45 | ajmitch | have an .htaccess file in the directory with AddType application/opensearchdescription+xml .xml |
| 03:31.58 | ajmitch | xml, not .xml sorry |
| 03:32.01 | Adys | I dont like htaccess files |
| 03:32.07 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: danke |
| 03:32.18 | Adys | general guideline is not to use them if you got access to the server config |
| 03:32.28 | ajmitch | then do it in the virtual host area under a <Directory> block, I think |
| 03:32.35 | Cairenn | was paying more attention to patch day stuff, that day |
| 03:32.53 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 03:32.57 | Arrowmaster | you only want to serve that one file as that though, not all xml |
| 03:32.59 | Adys | I'm trying to figure it out now ajmitch |
| 03:33.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Sna4x8_Home (n=slak@c-76-20-39-55.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:33.23 | Adys | Arrowmaster: exactly. i just want to serve one specific file as openfail+xml |
| 03:33.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 03:33.44 | Adys | adding *.xml in the dir would get me headaches later on |
| 03:33.57 | ajmitch | I don't know if it can be done per-file, I only know of per-directory |
| 03:34.11 | Sna4x8_Home | With the new quest tracking added into the game with the last patch, is there a way to get the coordinates of one of the objectives? Something like GetMapLandmarkInfo()? |
| 03:34.16 | Adys | has to be possible |
| 03:37.45 | DWSR | http://i48.tinypic.com/2dv8m81.jpg <- Art suggestions, and where? |
| 03:38.17 | ajmitch | looks like you may be abel to restrict AddType to an single file by putting it in<Files opensearch.xml> |
| 03:39.16 | Arrowmaster | [T=MIME-type] |
| 03:39.16 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.21 | Arrowmaster | i found that for htaccess |
| 03:39.29 | Arrowmaster | for regex's but i dont know how to use it yet |
| 03:40.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi- (n=Bibi@81.249.125.150) |
| 03:40.54 | Polarina | DWSR: The art is fine. The overal look-and-feel of the user interface isn't at its best. |
| 03:41.02 | DWSR | Polarina: Suggestions? |
| 03:41.54 | Polarina | DWSR: For starters, it's, in my opinion, quite wastefull on screen space. |
| 03:42.27 | DWSR | Polarina: Ok, so....as I asked...suggestions? :P |
| 03:43.17 | Polarina | DWSR: The toolbar is fine, and everything around there. My concerns are at the bottom, the action bar, chat, etc. |
| 03:43.59 | DWSR | Polarina: Are you an engineer? You talk a lot, but say very little. :P |
| 03:44.22 | Polarina | DWSR: You have a widescreen monitor, try using at least some of the space you got to the left and to the right and reduce the overall height of the action bar area. |
| 03:44.53 | Polarina | DWSR: You could, for example, move the minimap to the top right. |
| 03:45.04 | DWSR | Polarina: Left is group/raid. I can't make it any smaller atm else I squish the party bars. |
| 03:45.16 | Polarina | DWSR: Great! So that's being used. :) |
| 03:45.22 | Polarina | DWSR: And what about the right? |
| 03:45.31 | DWSR | Omen/raid CDs/recount. |
| 03:46.01 | Polarina | DWSR: Yes. I am suggesting that you move the less-frequently used widgets from the bottom to the right. |
| 03:46.02 | DWSR | I have recount show there only when it's asked. I have Recount_Stats in my LDB display. |
| 03:46.32 | DWSR | Polarina: hmm...So move the minimap up and the multipanel out to the far right |
| 03:46.40 | Polarina | Anything that grows, expands like a list, shouldn't be placed at the bottom. |
| 03:46.49 | Polarina | DWSR: For example. |
| 03:47.04 | DWSR | Polarina: Except the list is locked and can't grow to beyond the maximum size of the screen. |
| 03:47.12 | DWSR | I only care about the top of the meter and a few places below it. |
| 03:47.31 | Polarina | DWSR: I am referencing to the party thing to the far-most left. |
| 03:47.54 | DWSR | Polarina: It grows from the bottom up though. = |
| 03:47.55 | DWSR | =\* |
| 03:48.22 | Polarina | DWSR: Humans tend to like things that grows downwards. |
| 03:48.32 | Polarina | DWSR: But that's a matter of taste though. ;) |
| 03:48.39 | DWSR | Polarina: Well, it's unimportant information for the most part, anyway. |
| 03:48.45 | DWSR | I'm a warlock, I pew pew some stuff. |
| 03:49.05 | DWSR | Party/Raid is mostly for the sake of verbosity and information more than actual need. |
| 03:49.16 | Polarina | DWSR: I see. |
| 03:49.50 | Polarina | DWSR: This isn't awful as it is, simply my suggestions, if they're worth anything at all. :) |
| 03:50.15 | Polarina | DWSR: You might wish to change the bright, red colour to something darker, less distracting. |
| 03:50.47 | DWSR | Polarina: I build a custom UI for every toon, so that way I sort of...get into the uniqueness of each toon |
| 03:51.45 | Polarina | DWSR: What suits you doesn't need changing. :) |
| 03:52.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Hirsute (i=9b61f00b@gateway/web/freenode/x-vziznbqslxhuaewo) |
| 03:52.20 | DWSR | Polarina: I'm a tinkerer. |
| 03:52.26 | DWSR | Sometimes, even though it suits, someone might have a better suggestion. |
| 03:52.41 | DWSR | I didn't really like the fact that the bottom bar takes up way too much space. |
| 03:52.55 | DWSR | And yeah, I also didn't like the colour (but I'm colourblind, so I don't trust my own opinions in regards to colours). |
| 03:53.20 | Polarina | DWSR: What kind of colour-blindness? |
| 03:53.27 | DWSR | blue-green or red-green. |
| 03:53.31 | DWSR | the 'shade blindness' |
| 03:53.37 | DWSR | Not proper colour blindedness. |
| 03:54.09 | Polarina | DWSR: I see. You can still sense darkness/brightness? |
| 03:54.19 | DWSR | Polarina: Not in the same way you do. |
| 03:54.57 | Polarina | DWSR: Try to use dark colours as you see them. :) |
| 03:55.10 | DWSR | yeah, just swapped it to a colour that's similar to the warlock class colour. |
| 03:55.15 | Polarina | They distract the user less from the actual game. |
| 03:55.16 | DWSR | Much better on the eyes, imo. |
| 03:56.10 | *** join/#wowuidev kaiden (n=kaiden@c-67-183-80-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 03:56.56 | kaiden | Quick Question,there used to be an addon that tracked every item that was distributed in a group (green/blue/purple) and who got it, is something like that still around, trying to use it with the new LFG system to fairly distribute items |
| 03:57.21 | DWSR | yes |
| 03:57.28 | DWSR | Lots of addons still do that |
| 03:57.47 | kaiden | any names? so i can look at them |
| 03:57.48 | DWSR | HeadCount can do it, LootHog as well. |
| 03:57.53 | kaiden | cool thx |
| 03:57.53 | DWSR | XLoot |
| 03:58.11 | DWSR | I personally recommend XLoot because it does other things with the loot-related UI as wel, but that may or may not be for you |
| 03:59.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:59.27 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 03:59.34 | kaiden | i'll give them all a try |
| 03:59.46 | kaiden | LootHog appears to do exactly what i'm looking for though visually (here's to hoping) |
| 03:59.49 | kaiden | thanks very much for your advice! |
| 03:59.55 | Iriel | waves at Shirik pre-emptively |
| 04:00.03 | DWSR | :) |
| 04:00.04 | DWSR | np |
| 04:00.07 | Shirik | I didn't even do anything! |
| 04:00.11 | DWSR | LOL @ Lightweave once again proccing on Fel Armor ticks. |
| 04:00.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:01.01 | Iriel | Shirik: That's why there's a "pre-" at the beginning of "pre-emptively" (which may be incorrectly spelled) |
| 04:01.10 | Thunder_Child | glares @ both Shirik and Iriel |
| 04:01.13 | Shirik | I think it's one word :) |
| 04:01.16 | DWSR | preemptively(sp?) |
| 04:01.16 | batbot | DWSR, preemptively is correct. |
| 04:01.18 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:02.26 | kaiden | hrm, looks like loothog only watches items done with /random or roll |
| 04:02.37 | DWSR | kaiden: Headcount works. |
| 04:02.55 | DWSR | Also XLoot with the Monitor plugin works |
| 04:03.15 | kaiden | trying headcount now |
| 04:06.37 | Hirsute | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.48 | Hirsute | More enchanters QQing about the new "roll for enchant" option. |
| 04:07.29 | Hirsute | This time with the "If you're in an instance with a mining node, you don't have the miner mine it and then have everyone roll for what he gets" argument. |
| 04:08.40 | Polarina | Hirsute: :) |
| 04:09.53 | Hirsute | I've just starting putting whiney enchanters like that on ignore. If I hear one more "It isn't fair for Blizz to FORCE us to use our profession for the benefit of the group", I'll initiate a kick vote. |
| 04:10.25 | Arrowmaster | wait so somebody in the group has to be a disenchanter for it to work? |
| 04:10.45 | Shadowed | yes |
| 04:10.56 | Shadowed | and be able to actually disenchant it too |
| 04:10.58 | Iriel | I think it's pretty clever, but there should be some benefit to the enchanter |
| 04:11.13 | Iriel | whether it's an extra roll, or a bias on the roll, or just a monetary reward or something |
| 04:11.26 | Hirsute | I disagree. |
| 04:11.26 | Iriel | It doesn't have to be significant, just a token acknowledgement |
| 04:11.33 | Arrowmaster | how about the ability to skillup from the disenchanting as if they had actually done it? |
| 04:11.41 | Iriel | That would be sufficient |
| 04:11.46 | Iriel | And maybe that's how it works |
| 04:11.53 | Shadowed | That sounds like a pain to implement |
| 04:11.55 | Iriel | I doubt most players are low enough to know |
| 04:11.55 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: you stop being able to skillup from DEing way before end-game dungeons anyway. |
| 04:12.06 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 04:12.13 | Shadowed | Given you get it immediately, I doubt that's how it works |
| 04:12.40 | Shadowed | although you could test pretty easily |
| 04:12.44 | Hirsute | Ultimately: There's no cost to the enchanter because of this option, so I see no reason for anyone to get in a huff about it. |
| 04:13.13 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: yeah create a new character, get to level 5, get enchanting, goto RFC |
| 04:13.45 | Iriel | I'm not saying I mind the current system, I certainly wont be complaining if i'm ever the only DE in a group and nobody thanks me |
| 04:14.01 | Shadowed | But, what if you have two enchanters with the same level, who gets the skill up? |
| 04:14.03 | Iriel | But as a general principle, it seems that there's no acknowledgement to the DE'er, and that seems a bit low |
| 04:14.15 | Shadowed | Which is why I bet you don't get a skill up as if you had DEed it |
| 04:14.38 | Shadowed | It's certainly nice if you want to chain run an old instance, no manually DEing the 500 items you get |
| 04:14.52 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: both, who cares its skillup for disenchanting they only work for a short time every bracket |
| 04:15.13 | Hirsute | Correction: There's no cost to any enchanter I'd be interested in grouping with. I'm told some enchanters charge their groups for their DEing. *shrug* |
| 04:15.19 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Not every bracket, either. |
| 04:15.42 | Hirsute | I don't think you get skillups from DEing any more once you're above journeyman level, period. |
| 04:15.58 | Hirsute | At least, I certainly don't recall getting them. |
| 04:16.04 | Arrowmaster | i thought they changed it |
| 04:16.08 | kdtresh | i think the DE skillups stop at like skill 25 |
| 04:16.21 | Hirsute | ^^^^ |
| 04:16.41 | Hirsute | Unless they've changed it in the last.... 2 months, I'm fairly certain it hasn't changed. |
| 04:16.47 | Iriel | I wonder if just a messaging picking a random enchanter and thanking them for the service would be enough? |
| 04:16.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah used to be it was only till like 25 but i thought they changed it so there was a few points everytime you purchased a new level range |
| 04:17.13 | Hirsute | Only if that change has been since 3.1 |
| 04:17.32 | Polarina | hasn't played since 2.4. |
| 04:17.36 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 04:18.03 | Hirsute | Just got my laptop back from repairs (daughter dumped a bunch of apple juice on it). Reinstalling programs is a pain. |
| 04:18.13 | DWSR | Does Omen or Recount allow you to anchor the frame to another? |
| 04:18.15 | WobWork | disk image ftw |
| 04:18.18 | Hirsute | As is restoring my music collection. |
| 04:18.24 | DWSR | If not, can someone help me edit their anchor points? |
| 04:18.35 | wereHamster | Hirsute: was it an apple? :P |
| 04:18.41 | Hirsute | WobWork: Except that I'm using this as an opportunity to upgrade the OS. |
| 04:18.47 | Hirsute | wereHamster: Heavens no. |
| 04:19.08 | Polarina | wereHamster: It was a laptop, not an apple. Are you stupid? |
| 04:19.29 | wereHamster | they do make laptops |
| 04:19.40 | Shirik | Can you do a faction change and realm change simultaneously? |
| 04:19.44 | Hirsute | Vista32->7 64, so even though I *have* a backup from the day she decided to teach my lappy the joys of apple juice, all it's good for is extracting data. |
| 04:19.45 | Polarina | Apples are fruits last time I checked. |
| 04:19.54 | Hirsute | Shirik: I don't think so. |
| 04:19.57 | DWSR | Shirik: Yes. |
| 04:19.59 | KarlKFI | apple is a company. macs are computers |
| 04:20.04 | WobWork | W7x64 ftw |
| 04:20.07 | Shirik | but it's $30 yes? |
| 04:20.28 | DWSR | WobWork: Indeed. |
| 04:20.30 | Hirsute | I think so (which is what I meant by "no", I'm fairly certain you still pay individual fees) |
| 04:20.53 | WobWork | $15 + $25 |
| 04:20.57 | WobWork | I think for us =( |
| 04:21.08 | Polarina | = $40 |
| 04:21.36 | WobWork | I put forth the petition that they should offer discounts to servers and factions that are unbalanced |
| 04:21.44 | WobWork | or if you're moving from a high pop to a low pop |
| 04:22.25 | Shirik | I'm moving from a low pop to a high pop |
| 04:22.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:22.39 | Polarina | Shirik: Why? |
| 04:22.48 | Shirik | very complex reasons |
| 04:22.56 | Shirik | it essentially boils down to "drama" |
| 04:22.56 | Polarina | Shirik: I see. |
| 04:23.05 | Shirik | the target guild is an old one of mine |
| 04:23.08 | Shirik | that has a need for me now |
| 04:23.23 | Shirik | the guild I'm leaving ... I have no desire to spend 5 more second with |
| 04:23.47 | Polarina | Shirik: Any thoughts on looking for another same-realm guild? |
| 04:23.55 | Shirik | impossible |
| 04:24.02 | Polarina | Shirik: Why? |
| 04:24.03 | Shirik | not without severely stagnating myself |
| 04:24.10 | Polarina | Shirik: I see. |
| 04:24.19 | Shirik | My current guild is the top on the server. The #2 guild is literally lightyears behind |
| 04:24.44 | Iriel | Really? "Literally lightyears"? I thought you of all people knew better |
| 04:25.15 | Thunder_Child | lightyears...1 AU |
| 04:25.16 | Thunder_Child | err..3 AU's |
| 04:25.24 | DWSR | Iriel: If you think of progression as a race, lightyears is an acceptable measurement. |
| 04:25.25 | Shirik | Iriel |
| 04:25.27 | Polarina | Thunder_Child: Approx. |
| 04:25.35 | Shirik | think of it this way |
| 04:25.36 | DWSR | lightyears are* |
| 04:25.37 | Shirik | you plot everyone on a line |
| 04:25.42 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:25.51 | Thunder_Child | Polarina: since an AU is aprox anyway i assume it's implied |
| 04:25.51 | DWSR | Shirik, you're doing it right. |
| 04:25.54 | Shirik | they are so far behind |
| 04:25.55 | Iriel | But that isn't LITERAL |
| 04:25.59 | Iriel | it's still figuratiev |
| 04:26.00 | Shirik | that they are a lightyear away |
| 04:26.03 | Shirik | no it's literal |
| 04:26.04 | Iriel | Damn I can't type this evening |
| 04:26.07 | DWSR | Iriel: It's all figurative. |
| 04:26.09 | Shirik | I just choose a scale that is appropriate for my needs |
| 04:26.12 | Shirik | :) |
| 04:26.14 | DWSR | Since we're talking about something intangible. |
| 04:26.23 | Iriel | DWSR: EXACTLY |
| 04:26.28 | Thunder_Child | it's tangebile |
| 04:26.40 | DWSR | Iriel: You're doing it wrong. |
| 04:26.47 | DWSR | This is meta-wankery, imo. |
| 04:26.50 | Thunder_Child | it's a unit of measurment of something that exists |
| 04:26.58 | Iriel | DWSR: We're on IRC, it's about our only hope |
| 04:27.02 | Shirik | why are we arguing about this lol |
| 04:27.10 | Thunder_Child | have anything better? |
| 04:27.21 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: time would work |
| 04:27.33 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: since he could estimate the time it would take the #2 guild to catch up |
| 04:27.51 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: instances/achievements, perhaps? |
| 04:27.53 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: yes it would. |
| 04:28.22 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: For a supposed engineer using a measure of distance as an analogy and then saying 'literally' should make Shirik cry |
| 04:28.26 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: why are you telling me this? all i said is that lightyears is valid |
| 04:28.41 | *** join/#wowuidev kaiden (n=kaiden@c-67-183-80-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 04:29.26 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: You asked if I had anything better, then seemed to agree that I did. |
| 04:29.30 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: see a light year is not just a measurement of distance, it's also a measurement of time. which you just pointed out is valid |
| 04:29.36 | Shirik | Iriel: Lightyears are certainly valid |
| 04:29.38 | Iriel | It's not a measurement of time |
| 04:29.41 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: i meant to argue about |
| 04:29.41 | Shirik | literally |
| 04:29.44 | Iriel | It's a measurement of distance, peropd. |
| 04:29.45 | Iriel | period. |
| 04:30.19 | Iriel | That's like saying miles per hour is a measurement of distance. |
| 04:30.31 | DWSR | No it's not. |
| 04:30.37 | DWSR | It's like saying miles is a measurement of speed. |
| 04:30.44 | DWSR | Fail analogy. |
| 04:31.53 | Thunder_Child | but light can not vary it's speed in this equasion |
| 04:32.36 | Thunder_Child | miles is a measurement of speed when aplied to something that can only go at one speed |
| 04:33.03 | Iriel | Actually no |
| 04:33.05 | DWSR | As I said, metawankery. |
| 04:33.14 | Iriel | miles is a measurement of TIME when applied to something that can onlygo at one speed |
| 04:33.30 | Thunder_Child | err..yes, what i said in the begning |
| 04:34.01 | DWSR | Polarina: Do you think I should use a different background texture? |
| 04:34.09 | Iriel | So you're implying that there's a known fixed speed of a guild progressing through content? |
| 04:34.16 | DWSR | yes. |
| 04:34.22 | Thunder_Child | there is with ICC |
| 04:34.24 | DWSR | With welfare epix it's called instantaneous progress. |
| 04:34.29 | DWSR | And also, what T_C said. |
| 04:34.46 | Hirsute | Uh-oh. There's that welfare epics phrase again. |
| 04:35.04 | WobWork | lightspeed can vary... |
| 04:35.04 | Thunder_Child | actually it was epix which makes it worse |
| 04:35.18 | WobWork | if you imply that lightspeed is the speed of light |
| 04:35.40 | Iriel | WobWork: indeed it can, depending on what it's being transmitted by |
| 04:35.42 | Jerub | mmmepics. |
| 04:35.43 | Iriel | or within |
| 04:35.49 | Iriel | whatever the terminology is |
| 04:35.56 | Jerub | a guildmate lost a roll ona trophy of the crusade in a 25toc with me last night |
| 04:36.02 | WobWork | I like to consider it 'context' =) |
| 04:36.22 | Jerub | he'd never been in toc before, lost the roll (equal 98, we both rerolled) and after I got it he whispers me to ask what it's for. |
| 04:36.30 | Shirik | omfg |
| 04:36.31 | Shirik | Fine |
| 04:36.33 | Shirik | I take it back |
| 04:36.34 | Jerub | i don't think he knew where to buy T9 gears :) |
| 04:36.35 | Shirik | not lightyears |
| 04:36.41 | Thunder_Child | noooooo dont take it back |
| 04:36.42 | WobWork | hurrah |
| 04:36.43 | Shirik | millenia |
| 04:36.43 | Shirik | ok? |
| 04:36.54 | Thunder_Child | i just argued the damn thing |
| 04:36.54 | Shirik | how about this |
| 04:37.14 | Hirsute | See, I took the "lightyears" to be correct because I viewed the difference in progression as a "distance" rather than time period. *shrug* |
| 04:37.29 | Shirik | SendchatMessage(distance ? "lightyears" : (time ? "millenia" : "ok fu"), "IRC") |
| 04:37.40 | Iriel | Had he not tacked on 'literally' I would have had NO issue whatsoever |
| 04:37.55 | WobWork | pedantry rules on the internet |
| 04:38.04 | Iriel | I had nothing better to do |
| 04:38.10 | Iriel | it was that or remove spam from my inbox |
| 04:38.18 | WobWork | see, it's your fault, Shirik |
| 04:38.23 | WobWork | you're not suitably entertaining Iriel |
| 04:38.30 | WobWork | (or you -are-, depending on point of view) |
| 04:39.02 | Shirik | oh I am |
| 04:39.03 | Shirik | Iriel never talks this much |
| 04:39.10 | Shirik | so I declare victory |
| 04:39.16 | Thunder_Child | agreed |
| 04:39.24 | Iriel | I booted my laptop now so i'm going back to coding |
| 04:39.30 | Shirik | noooooooooooooooooo |
| 04:39.31 | Shirik | Iriel |
| 04:39.39 | Shirik | literally I love you |
| 04:39.57 | WobWork | He's here to clean your pool! |
| 04:40.01 | Balreign | He loves himself to |
| 04:40.12 | WobWork | bow-chika-wakka-chikka-wakka-chikka-wakka-chikka |
| 04:40.13 | kaiden | sadly dwsr none of those addons do what i was asking :P |
| 04:40.50 | DWSR | kaiden: Well then try to explain a little bit more in depth. |
| 04:41.34 | kaiden | i rmeember a long time ago there was an addon called LootWhore which was a frame that like an excel sheet listed all the items that dropped and it listed who each item was given to in 1 of the fields |
| 04:41.52 | kaiden | i looked up that addon and that's not what it does anymore |
| 04:42.02 | kaiden | i'm asking this for parties generally, not raids |
| 04:42.09 | kaiden | but would like it to track all |
| 04:42.17 | Shirik | ok, who here plays alliance? |
| 04:42.22 | kaiden | << |
| 04:42.24 | Shirik | need to know best race for a priest |
| 04:42.31 | Shirik | better question |
| 04:42.33 | Shirik | rank the races |
| 04:42.40 | Jerub | Shirik: gnome is best. |
| 04:42.45 | kaiden | dwarves get stoneform so easy to get out of poisons etc really quickly |
| 04:42.45 | Shirik | gnome priest |
| 04:42.45 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:42.46 | WobWork | race doesn't mean much anymore for alliance |
| 04:42.47 | Shirik | I'll get right on that |
| 04:42.52 | Hirsute | Bonus to Intellect |
| 04:42.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Sesshu| (n=Sesshu@ip-248-16.travedsl.de) |
| 04:42.54 | WobWork | stoneform is good |
| 04:42.56 | kaiden | gnomes can't be priests yet |
| 04:42.59 | Shirik | I know :P |
| 04:43.02 | kaiden | draenei get the self heal so it's an extra heal |
| 04:43.04 | Shirik | that's why I said my response :) |
| 04:43.12 | Shirik | it's not self is it? |
| 04:43.14 | Shirik | it's target |
| 04:43.15 | WobWork | draenei also get the +hit |
| 04:43.34 | Hirsute | Never played a priest, but I see a lot of NE and Draenei preists around. |
| 04:43.42 | kaiden | humans get 10% extra rep |
| 04:43.50 | kaiden | i would go human for sexyness factor and 10% extra rep |
| 04:43.51 | Shirik | screw humans |
| 04:43.53 | WobWork | diplomacy is awesome |
| 04:43.56 | Jerub | rep falls like mana from the heavens with 3.3 |
| 04:44.01 | Shirik | basically I'm looking for NE vs Draenei |
| 04:44.01 | kaiden | humans also can stop fears |
| 04:44.02 | WobWork | I'd go female dwarf priest. |
| 04:44.06 | kaiden | which will save a LOT of groups |
| 04:44.08 | WobWork | cause -noone ever ever plays them- |
| 04:44.27 | WobWork | also, they have the flappy hair casting animation |
| 04:44.29 | WobWork | which is awesome |
| 04:45.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:45.28 | kaiden | but yes gnome will be the awesomest when it is available :) |
| 04:46.00 | Shirik | no screw gnomes |
| 04:46.07 | WobWork | worgen |
| 04:46.07 | Shirik | I have vowed never to make a gnome |
| 04:48.21 | DWSR | How can I show a frame only when another frame is shown? |
| 04:51.07 | cogwheel | ~botmail for cide- wtb ct_viewport that expands completely when ui is hidden... |
| 04:52.11 | DWSR | cogwheel: Use Sunn. |
| 04:53.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: planing on doing pvp? |
| 04:53.49 | Shirik | not primarily, but some |
| 04:54.02 | Thunder_Child | then go human, racial frees up trink spot |
| 04:54.31 | WobWork | DWSR: parent the child frame to the parent |
| 04:55.05 | Shirik | nah Thunder_Child |
| 04:55.09 | Shirik | I care too much about looks to do that |
| 04:55.25 | Thunder_Child | then you will never be the best you can be Shirik |
| 04:55.34 | Shirik | I don't have to be the best |
| 04:55.38 | Shirik | I just have to be better than those I meet |
| 04:55.40 | Thunder_Child | because looks mean squat when it comes to laying the smackdown |
| 04:56.13 | Shirik | dude if I can look good while smashing your face in |
| 04:56.28 | Thunder_Child | but you can not, because i min/max |
| 04:56.31 | Shirik | you are going to be all like "dude we just got smoked by a model" |
| 04:57.03 | Shirik | min/max isn't everything |
| 04:57.06 | Shirik | try skillzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 04:57.11 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 04:57.44 | Jerub | Kraps: what's your opinion on the whole dungeon interface thing |
| 04:58.31 | DWSR | Ugly as hell. |
| 04:58.32 | DWSR | But hey |
| 04:58.50 | DWSR | WobWork: But I want to do it for multiple frames. |
| 04:58.54 | DWSR | Wait, nevermind, I actually don't care. |
| 04:58.56 | DWSR | Thanks. |
| 04:59.05 | WobWork | DWSR: you can have more than one child frame to a parent |
| 05:00.10 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: skills + min/max'ing will abuse your face |
| 05:01.13 | Shirik | negative |
| 05:01.26 | Shirik | my skillz are LITERALLY LIGHTYEARS beyond anyone's |
| 05:01.34 | WobWork | that far behind? |
| 05:01.37 | WobWork | =( |
| 05:01.40 | WobWork | pats Shirik |
| 05:01.45 | DWSR | WobWork: Right, but I want the same frame to be the child of multiple parents, which is probably unpossible. |
| 05:01.53 | DWSR | WobWork: Anyway, I did what you said, but the frame is not disappearing. |
| 05:01.59 | Thunder_Child | ~WobWork++ |
| 05:02.02 | DWSR | Oh wait...because the frame itself is still visible, it's just totally transparent. |
| 05:02.40 | WobWork | DWSR: have a HideMe() function on the parent frames that explicitly hide the specific child frames and itself |
| 05:02.50 | DWSR | WobWork: Can't do that. |
| 05:02.57 | DWSR | I'm working with kgpanels and ora3. |
| 05:03.06 | DWSR | I want to put a background on the cooldown monitor. |
| 05:03.21 | WobWork | hack the code directly? |
| 05:03.28 | DWSR | No. There must be some other way. |
| 05:04.08 | DWSR | Can I check the existance of entries in a table? |
| 05:04.31 | DWSR | Because kgpanels support scripts, so I could just script them to check for entires in the table for ora's cooldowns. |
| 05:06.58 | WobWork | yes |
| 05:07.03 | DWSR | than help |
| 05:07.24 | WobWork | if tab1 and tab1["myentry"] then |
| 05:07.30 | Arrowmaster | lua> next({}), next({true}) |
| 05:07.31 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil, 1, true |
| 05:07.46 | Arrowmaster | lua> next({}), "",next({true}) |
| 05:07.47 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil, , 1, true |
| 05:09.47 | Adys | Any image pro around? |
| 05:10.54 | DWSR | WobWork: How can I find the name of a table? |
| 05:10.57 | WobWork | http://www.themedguru.com/20091206/newsfeature/stare-boobs-longer-life-study-86131320.html |
| 05:11.06 | WobWork | DWSR: either know it beforehand |
| 05:11.25 | WobWork | or foreach i,v in ipairs(tab1) |
| 05:11.43 | WobWork | or maybe pairs() |
| 05:14.27 | DWSR | won't framestack tell me WobWork? |
| 05:15.22 | DWSR | wait. |
| 05:15.25 | DWSR | nevermind, now it works apparently. |
| 05:15.27 | DWSR | =\ |
| 05:16.52 | Arrowmaster | what where the multiple parents you wanted to try and use? |
| 05:18.30 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Omen, Recount, or oRA3's CD frame. |
| 05:18.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 05:18.46 | DWSR | but I just turned on the background for Omen and Recount and it has the same effect. |
| 05:20.46 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/blp.png |
| 05:20.52 | Adys | anyone knows whats wrong with this image? |
| 05:21.15 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 05:21.23 | Arrowmaster | its blue |
| 05:21.27 | Adys | yeha |
| 05:21.28 | Adys | I meant |
| 05:21.35 | Adys | what exactly is wrong with the colors |
| 05:21.48 | Arrowmaster | what did it start as? |
| 05:21.53 | Adys | a blp |
| 05:21.53 | Dashkal | red blue channel swap? |
| 05:22.00 | Adys | tried that Dashkal |
| 05:22.38 | DWSR | The show frame command is self:Show(), right? |
| 05:23.09 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: werent you talking the other day about something with browsers not being able to detect the color order of an image properly and displaying it blue |
| 05:23.16 | Adys | also |
| 05:23.24 | Adys | how do you swap channels in the gimp? |
| 05:23.40 | Dashkal | Not sure. I'm just installing gimp now to play with this |
| 05:24.08 | Shirik | something like that |
| 05:24.11 | Shirik | something foxlit did, Arrowmaster |
| 05:24.14 | Shirik | to a TGA |
| 05:24.33 | Adys | this isn't the browser |
| 05:24.39 | Adys | Im trying to write a PIL blp decoder |
| 05:24.50 | Adys | I got dxt1 working except I don't |
| 05:26.53 | Dashkal | Hrm, rotating the hute 180 degrees seems to work |
| 05:27.44 | Dashkal | hue* |
| 05:28.57 | Adys | I got it |
| 05:29.12 | Adys | its definitely BGR instead of RGB |
| 05:29.16 | Adys | but I cant figure out why |
| 05:29.21 | Amarande | yay, mail boots with stam and agi |
| 05:29.25 | Amarande | <3 you, satchel of helpful goods |
| 05:29.39 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/131934/ |
| 05:29.52 | Amarande | you know, 3.3 has left me with virtually no reason at all to whine about wow. |
| 05:29.54 | Adys | theres something wrong here |
| 05:30.04 | Adys | Amarande: you're pathetic |
| 05:30.12 | Amarande | well, other than that dungeon finder dungeons *still* apparently let you roll need on BoE's that aren't your class |
| 05:30.26 | Amarande | douchebag in our ZF group rolled need on an epic mail chestpiece so he could put it on the ah :P |
| 05:30.30 | Dashkal | You sure it's BGR? I only got it with a full 180 degree shift. So red was cyan, blue yellow, and green magenta |
| 05:30.33 | Jerub | what's wrong with that? |
| 05:30.43 | Amarande | Jerub: if you're putting it on the ah, do you really *need* it? :P |
| 05:31.00 | Jerub | need it for another toon perhaps |
| 05:31.03 | Jerub | impossible to distinguish |
| 05:31.06 | Adys | Dashkal: color => channel tool |
| 05:31.10 | Amarande | meanwhile, my hunter who's still using a crappy leather chestpiece from thousand needles and could actually USE it got outrolled |
| 05:31.10 | Jerub | this is why we group-loot in raids. |
| 05:31.35 | Amarande | why do I get this feeling I'm condemned to use that crappy leather chestpiece till outland :| |
| 05:31.41 | Jerub | Amarande: anyway,why are you playing another dps class? haven't you learned your lesson yet? |
| 05:31.45 | Jerub | play a healer or a tank |
| 05:31.48 | Adys | Dashkal: red-> (red 0, blue 100), blue-> (blue 0, red 100) |
| 05:33.07 | DWSR | Does UnitInParty return 1 for a raid as well? |
| 05:33.30 | DWSR | wait, I can't use that, it always returns 1 |
| 05:34.02 | Stanzilla | Iriel: does RedRange work in 3.3? |
| 05:34.11 | Jerub | I'm soooo glad I won that ring i got last night. ilvl 245 caster ring from toc10. |
| 05:34.28 | Jerub | it's boe so the RL took it straight to raidroll. :/ |
| 05:35.38 | Adys | working with images is fun |
| 05:35.45 | Adys | sometimes you get completely f'd up stuff |
| 05:37.10 | Iriel | Stanzilla: it appeared to when I played yesterday, but if it's acting up please let me know |
| 05:38.20 | Amarande | Jerub: 3.3 kinda obviates the problems with being a DPS class |
| 05:38.28 | Amarande | it wasn't that there -weren't groups looking for DPS- |
| 05:38.33 | Amarande | it's that I never managed to type quickly enough :P |
| 05:38.41 | Amarande | queues ftw |
| 05:38.55 | Stanzilla | Iriel: I forgot if it was supposed to work for heals on npcs but I just targetted one far far away and my buttons stayed normal |
| 05:39.01 | Amarande | raid pugs *usually* don't fill up so quickly that you have to see it, make the snap decision to go and pst in under five seconds :| |
| 05:39.12 | Amarande | and you really only have to worry about raids now when it comes to pugs |
| 05:39.18 | Amarande | that don't use the dungeon finder. |
| 05:39.50 | Amarande | and it's gonna be a while before I start hitting the ulduar. |
| 05:42.33 | Adys | well |
| 05:42.43 | Adys | I manually swapped r and b |
| 05:42.50 | Adys | but this feels totally wrong |
| 05:43.29 | Jerub | I <3 LFD |
| 05:43.34 | Jerub | I <3 it so much |
| 05:45.52 | Amarande | also, I should level my druid while I'm at it |
| 05:46.01 | Amarande | so he can make said hunter a 245 mail piece |
| 05:46.10 | Amarande | since I just snagged the crusader orb hunter mail chest recipe for a mere 300g |
| 05:46.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (n=Creek@67-197-1-37.rh1.dyn.cm.comporium.net) |
| 05:46.57 | Jerub | i don't have the mail lw crusader chests |
| 05:46.59 | Jerub | but i have most of the rest |
| 05:48.02 | Amarande | Every now and then I snag one on the AH if it is cheap and I feel like I might be able to get it made before Cata |
| 05:48.38 | Amarande | I have the recipe for crusader orb plate tanking bracers too as a carrot on a stick to get both my hunter and warrior high enough to make and use it. |
| 05:48.44 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 05:49.26 | Amarande | btw |
| 05:49.33 | Amarande | when are they going to stop waffling on the engineering dragonlings? |
| 05:49.40 | Jerub | who> |
| 05:49.50 | Amarande | Jerub: the Eng trinkets that summon a temporary dragonling for 1 minute |
| 05:50.08 | Amarande | it's like ... one patch they're fixed level. next patch they scale with engineering skill. next patch they're back to fixed level again. then they decide to scale them again, and currently I think they're back to fixed level again |
| 05:50.24 | Jerub | who's waffling? |
| 05:50.25 | Jerub | blizz? |
| 05:50.27 | Amarande | yeah |
| 05:50.42 | Amarande | they can't seem to decide whether to keep it fixed level or scale it with eng level, and end up changing it like every patch or so |
| 05:54.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Admin/Nechckn) |
| 05:54.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 05:54.58 | Amarande | I suspect they might keep it fixed, since apparently the problem now is that the scaling scales out of control |
| 05:55.11 | Amarande | it requires 300 to make, and starts, in patches where they had it scale, at 60 |
| 05:55.18 | Amarande | then it was one for every 5 eng skill |
| 05:55.35 | Amarande | I suspect they figured out that people having a level 90 pet for a minute was kinda ... hmm ... op? :) |
| 05:55.50 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 06:06.26 | Adys | ok |
| 06:06.30 | Adys | here is what i learned today |
| 06:06.43 | Adys | there is a RIDICULOUS amount of dds loaders in python, perl and what not on the web |
| 06:08.38 | Jerub | dds? |
| 06:08.50 | Adys | some raw texture file format |
| 06:08.52 | Arrowmaster | so i found the oddest bug in borderlands, when you equip weapons the required level on some of them lowers, but then it goes back up when you unequip them |
| 06:09.03 | Adys | which is usually used when compressed with dxt1/3/5 |
| 06:09.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C020E.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 06:09.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Hirsute-Lappy (n=chatzill@lre-east-3-11.usahousing.utah.edu) |
| 06:10.09 | Adys | http://www.mumm3d.com/scripts/bmConvertDDS(Maya).py |
| 06:10.20 | Adys | http://pyglet.googlecode.com/svn/branches/holkner_1/pyglet/dds.py |
| 06:10.55 | Adys | none of them are useful |
| 06:11.46 | Adys | http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=1347 |
| 06:12.00 | Adys | http://forum.ragezone.com/f458/ebm-blender-importer-449555/ |
| 06:12.46 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think wow used dds |
| 06:12.52 | Adys | blp does |
| 06:13.14 | Adys | blp is a container for jpg, tga or dds |
| 06:13.46 | Adys | its not technically dds, actually but meh |
| 06:15.24 | Shirik | blp is biography of living person |
| 06:15.28 | Shirik | I don't know what you're talking about |
| 06:16.02 | Adys | my biography of the last 10 days could be summed up with image work |
| 06:16.54 | Thunder_Child | porn? |
| 06:17.23 | Adys | i kinda wish it were porn |
| 06:18.21 | Thunder_Child | kinda? |
| 06:18.39 | Stanzilla | if you work with porn for over 10 days |
| 06:18.43 | Stanzilla | you get "problems" |
| 06:18.51 | Adys | http://sourceforge.net/projects/aorta/ |
| 06:19.07 | Adys | if you work with porn, you already have problems |
| 06:20.43 | Adys | seriously |
| 06:20.58 | Adys | is there some kind of editor or something that converts 8 spaces into tabs? |
| 06:21.07 | Adys | fucking POS files mixing tabs and spaces |
| 06:21.26 | Stanzilla | notepad++ |
| 06:21.32 | ZorbaTHut | I often do convert-tabs-into-spaces explicitly on files where the original maintainer has not been consistent |
| 06:21.57 | Adys | tabs for indent, space for align |
| 06:22.00 | Adys | how hard is it |
| 06:22.12 | tekkub | extremely |
| 06:22.14 | Adys | theres a mnemotechnical trick to remember it, too |
| 06:22.17 | Adys | look: |
| 06:22.20 | Adys | tabs for tabbing |
| 06:22.21 | tekkub | I've yet to get the rubytards to agree |
| 06:22.23 | Adys | spaces for spacing |
| 06:22.36 | Adys | its like it was named after it, huh? |
| 06:22.39 | tekkub | you know what it is? |
| 06:22.43 | tekkub | these blasted kids |
| 06:22.48 | tekkub | never used a typwriter |
| 06:23.03 | tekkub | those tabs made perfect sense... align on the half inch |
| 06:23.10 | Adys | neither have i. |
| 06:23.17 | tekkub | GET OFF MY LAWN |
| 06:23.24 | Adys | I'm not on your fucking lawn |
| 06:23.51 | tekkub | than who the fuck is that? |
| 06:24.04 | Adys | My money's on shirik |
| 06:24.14 | Adys | fucking sons of shits |
| 06:24.17 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:24.21 | Adys | seriously |
| 06:24.24 | Adys | ffs |
| 06:24.31 | Adys | this is the 15th decoder I go through |
| 06:24.42 | Adys | they almost all got ONE GIANT FUNCTION |
| 06:24.54 | Adys | that does both decoding, encoding, in dxt1, dxt3, dxt5 |
| 06:25.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Angelike (n=Angelike@dslb-088-073-227-065.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:25.28 | Adys | this one has ONE comment |
| 06:25.34 | Adys | / Author Gregory Smith |
| 06:25.45 | Adys | fuck you xchat |
| 19:07.20 | *** join/#wowuidev purl (i=ibot@rikers.org) |
| 19:07.20 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "I'll take death! No no, sorry, I meant patch! Patch please!" |
| 19:08.29 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=KarlKFI@ip68-225-225-215.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 19:22.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphon (n=gryphon@c-76-104-164-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:23.38 | zenzelezz | damnit |
| 19:23.53 | zenzelezz | got the axe from HoR, enchanted it, and then the sword drops in PoS |
| 19:24.18 | zenzelezz | half want to switch, but can't be arsed to re-enchant |
| 19:24.38 | *** join/#wowuidev kraft (n=kraft_@client-82-0-89-123.sdn-bng-011.adsl.virginmedia.net) |
| 19:29.29 | *** join/#wowuidev crs (n=crs@dslb-084-061-094-120.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:40.52 | sylvanaar | RegisterAllEvents = Awesome FutureProofing |
| 19:45.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom_ (n=nahh@ti0121a340-dhcp0974.bb.online.no) |
| 19:46.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Hjalte_ (n=chatzill@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 19:46.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed| (n=outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:46.51 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR2 (n=doingwha@24.114.252.244) |
| 19:47.09 | *** join/#wowuidev kz (n=Kazie@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:47.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Guest93002 (n=_@port-91562.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 19:47.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps_ (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:49.30 | sylvanaar | i have never found anything better than this: http://registerallevents.pastey.net/130137 |
| 19:50.26 | *** join/#wowuidev olafski (n=egrimm@dream.student.utwente.nl) |
| 19:50.40 | *** join/#wowuidev NeoTron (n=neotron@pool-173-64-144-162.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:50.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Ginji (n=Ginji@cc1040670-a.gorre1.fr.home.nl) |
| 19:50.44 | *** join/#wowuidev imbrandon (n=brandon@ubuntu/member/imbrandon) |
| 19:50.55 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics1 (n=cncfanat@17.231-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:51.04 | Shirik | I have, sylvanaar |
| 19:51.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 19:51.51 | *** join/#wowuidev jnwhiteh (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:52.07 | Shirik | http://registerallevents.pastey.net/130138-3wb6:130137-tucw |
| 19:52.07 | Shirik | For something called that frequently, an optimization is warranted |
| 19:52.16 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o jnwhiteh] by ChanServ |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=KarlKFI@ip68-225-225-215.oc.oc.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Taladris (i=Taladris@unaffiliated/elite3vil) |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Kazie (n=Kazie@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=doingwha@unaffiliated/dwsr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom (n=nahh@ti0121a340-dhcp0974.bb.online.no) |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Legorol (n=legorol@cpc2-sgyl7-0-0-cust387.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:52.21 | *** join/#wowuidev imbrando1 (n=brandon@72.135.8.5) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:52.21 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol] by irc.freenode.net |
| 19:52.26 | Shirik | add strsub=strsub in there too |
| 19:52.27 | *** join/#wowuidev `-FISKER_Q (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 19:52.48 | Arrowmaster | http://registerallevents.pastey.net/130139-1epw:130138-3wb6 |
| 19:53.24 | Shirik | what I said :P |
| 19:53.55 | Arrowmaster | i did more |
| 19:53.55 | Shirik | (14:51:46) (@Shirik) add strsub=strsub in there too |
| 19:54.04 | Arrowmaster | i was typing that when you said it, plus i did more than just that in the pastey |
| 19:54.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Zyn (n=zyn@h243n2-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 19:54.10 | Shirik | you removed my semicolon? |
| 19:54.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 19:54.18 | Arrowmaster | yes, because they are evil |
| 19:54.27 | Shirik | omg why does everyone think they're evil |
| 19:54.33 | Shirik | you people are so strange |
| 19:54.35 | Arrowmaster | they take up more bytes |
| 19:54.37 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=KarlKFI@ip68-225-225-215.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 19:54.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Yssaril_ (n=Yssaril@99-57-32-25.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:54.43 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:55.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen (n=Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:55.09 | Shirik | the intertubes! They are clogged with semicolons! |
| 19:55.23 | Shirik | I would actually like to see what percentage of traffic on the internet is a semicolon |
| 19:55.30 | Shirik | There's a lot of open source code floating around |
| 19:55.34 | Shirik | so it could be fairly significant |
| 19:56.11 | Arrowmaster | its also used everytime you create a link that has a & in it |
| 19:56.11 | wereHamster | source code is insignificant. But if there was semicolon-pr0n, thn the amount would be noticeable |
| 19:56.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc1 (n=Antiarc@ip70-190-192-186.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:56.20 | *** join/#wowuidev _ckknight_ (n=ckknight@adsl-070-154-141-184.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:56.45 | Shirik | porn made out of semicolons? |
| 19:57.14 | Thunder_Child | it's been done |
| 19:57.14 | wereHamster | watch ascii instead of real video |
| 19:58.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Zyn (n=zyn@h243n2-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 19:59.31 | *** join/#wowuidev NeoTron (n=neotron@pool-173-64-144-162.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:59.41 | kz | What's the print for getting a framename? |
| 20:01.43 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobwork@136.136.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 20:02.33 | alestane | You're probably thinking of print(GetMouseFocus():GetName()), but you may also find /framestack useful. |
| 20:02.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:03.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen1 (n=Sixen@173-25-23-10.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:07.47 | Grum | alestane: is that blizz stuff? |
| 20:09.30 | Gnarfoz | it is now |
| 20:10.48 | Grum | nice |
| 20:11.13 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@c-67-166-76-157.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:14.25 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (n=tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@98.122.156.80) |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Guest93002 (n=_@port-91562.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (n=chrippa@ua-83-227-215-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#wowuidev TecnoBrat (n=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com) |
| 20:24.28 | *** join/#wowuidev NiLon (i=nilon@unaffiliated/nilon) |
| 20:27.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Xuerian (n=core@70-32-205-51.unassigned.ntelos.net) |
| 20:30.14 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 20:30.47 | Xuerian | Cairenn: I really need to give Dridzt a cookie. I log in today to bring the new versions of XLoot over from curse, and Dridzt has already done it. 0_o |
| 20:30.59 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:31.11 | Thunder_Child | just one cookie? |
| 20:31.28 | Xuerian | Considering it's not a edible cookie, I'm going for quality over quantity :P |
| 20:31.44 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 20:31.47 | Shirik | I win at school |
| 20:32.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko (n=Kandoko@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/Kandoko) |
| 20:36.00 | Thunder_Child | ~award Shirik |
| 20:36.06 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 20:36.26 | Sna4x81 | Is there a way to get the coords of a quest objective with the new quest tracking? |
| 20:37.00 | Sna4x81 | I.e. if I click on a quest objective on my map, is there a way to get the x,y of that objective? Something like GetLandmarkInfo() perhaps? |
| 20:37.22 | Cidan | lookie at api |
| 20:37.37 | Shirik | tackles Cidan |
| 20:37.41 | Shirik | hey hey FYI I'm in VA |
| 20:37.42 | Cidan | dies |
| 20:37.44 | Cidan | no shit |
| 20:37.45 | Cidan | where? |
| 20:37.51 | Cidan | over in vienna? |
| 20:37.53 | Shirik | same place as before |
| 20:38.03 | Shirik | my parents' house doesn't move :) |
| 20:38.05 | Cidan | that's pretty bad ass, how long you gonna be here? |
| 20:38.13 | Shirik | Until at least january |
| 20:38.34 | Cidan | I'm leaving soonish for New Mexico, going to see girlfriend's parents |
| 20:38.38 | Shirik | oh fun |
| 20:38.39 | Cidan | not that slut Nancy |
| 20:38.52 | Xuerian | Wait, more from VA? 0_o |
| 20:38.59 | Cidan | Ya |
| 20:39.04 | Xuerian | Oh, you're over in the eastern side =| |
| 20:39.08 | Cidan | Ya |
| 20:39.09 | Xuerian | grumbles and goes back to the mountains. |
| 20:39.14 | Cidan | I used to live in Blacksburg though |
| 20:39.17 | Shirik | lol Xuerian is a redneck VA |
| 20:39.17 | Cidan | for 5 years |
| 20:39.23 | Shirik | I live in nova, the cool part of va |
| 20:39.26 | Xuerian | Haha, I'm 15mi away from there. |
| 20:39.27 | Cidan | totally |
| 20:39.27 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gc-1Dq3uQQ&feature=rec-r2-2f-4-HM |
| 20:39.30 | Shirik | nova should be its own state imo |
| 20:39.32 | Xuerian | Also, screw you Shirik. |
| 20:39.33 | Cidan | Xuerian: where? |
| 20:39.41 | Cidan | Shirik: no way, would kill southern va |
| 20:39.41 | Shirik | <3s Xuerian |
| 20:39.43 | Xuerian | Cidan: A little northwest of Radford. |
| 20:39.53 | Cidan | Neat; actually in radford? |
| 20:40.00 | Shirik | Cidan: Not my problem :) |
| 20:40.01 | Cidan | or what? riner? |
| 20:40.13 | Xuerian | 4mi out, so not really in it. Up in Highland, near the NRV airport |
| 20:40.25 | Cidan | Oh, ah ha, so not that far removed. |
| 20:40.28 | Cidan | Neat; xD |
| 20:40.32 | Cidan | Move up to NoVA! |
| 20:40.33 | Cidan | !! |
| 20:40.35 | Cidan | !@!@!`~~`` |
| 20:41.01 | Xuerian | Haha. If I had money, I might consider it. But, if I had money, I'd also be considering canada. Or Netherlands. |
| 20:42.21 | Cidan | s'not so bad up here |
| 20:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak|evil (n=cbreak@217-162-191-170.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:42.39 | Xuerian | I heard they legalized grass next door too :P |
| 20:44.24 | Kraps | http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/loljoker.jpg |
| 20:46.12 | Xuerian | If you look at his mouth like the right eye, the shadow under his jaw as teh mouth, and the edge of his mouth makeup as the other eye, that looks like one freaky mutant face |
| 20:47.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Hawlr (n=chatzill@c-71-192-250-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:48.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-174-098-002-214.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 20:52.31 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@17.231-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:56.34 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 20:56.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:56.34 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfchvCyHmsc |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah|away (n=Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Hawlr (n=chatzill@c-71-192-250-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak (n=cbreak@217-162-191-170.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobwork@136.136.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Guest37173 (n=doingwha@24.114.252.244) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom_ (n=nahh@ti0121a340-dhcp0974.bb.online.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev isman (n=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Odlaw (n=ozzy@c-98-245-3-204.hsd1.co.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Polarina (n=polarina@wesnoth/translator/Polarina) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Natch| (n=natch@c-bacee155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev boshi23 (n=chris@c-68-36-37-83.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev robotusch (n=robotusc@50A2D944.flatrate.dk) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Srosh (n=Srosh@c222077.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev ajmitch (n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev devZero (n=devZero@209-20-86-91.slicehost.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev felipe` (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Trela (n=Alexia@pa-67-234-204-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Thrae (i=ircuser@pool-71-179-243-191.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:58.08 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (n=zenzelez@201.238.34.95.customer.cdi.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.08 | *** join/#wowuidev haste (i=haste@hirano.ixo.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Mr_Rabies (n=Mr_Rabie@pool-74-104-166-109.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:58.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Raws (n=ross@pdpc/supporter/active/raws) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev lua_bot (n=lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev [Ammo_]_ (i=wouter@ringbreak.dnd.utwente.nl) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev jaxdahl (i=foobar@cpe-70-112-126-227.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev nichdu (n=nichdu@nerdcraft.eu) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Dotted (i=Dotted@83.97.101.42) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Kemayo_ (n=kemayo@76.249.244.146) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev batbot (n=batbot@batbytes.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Mikk (n=Mikk@WoWUIDev/mikk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaelten (n=Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev krka (i=krka@bissa.eu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev SNiLD- (i=snild@a91-153-155-143.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev cyndis (n=quassel@82.128.138.2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev fbjork (n=fredrik@c-b193e255.1310-2-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (i=harl@dslb-088-077-198-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Olison (i=olison@fukdruidsgrr.org) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (n=Stan@irc.kuja.in) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev amro (n=amro@li37-20.members.linode.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev ZorbaTHut (i=tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Jerub (n=gideon@unaffiliated/jerub) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Grum (n=grum@codebase2.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Gnarfoz (i=smallbra@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev nevcairiel (i=quasselc@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+oo Seerah|away Kaelten] by irc.freenode.net |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@smtp.mail.averageurl.com) |
| 20:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev [SW]Dodge (i=dodge@87.98.246.230) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:58.35 | Arrowmaster | wtb hermetically sealed bunker to live in and never come out of |
| 20:58.35 | *** part/#wowuidev boshi23 (n=chris@c-68-36-37-83.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 20:58.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Dolby (n=Dolby@CPE-75-86-191-202.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 20:58.35 | *** part/#wowuidev Dolby (n=Dolby@CPE-75-86-191-202.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 20:58.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Dolby (n=Dolby@MMOI/Administrator/pdpc.silver.dolby) |
| 20:58.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Dolby] by ChanServ |
| 20:59.30 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak|evil (n=cbreak@217-162-191-170.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 20:59.39 | Thunder_Child | you can hide from us guest50649 |
| 20:59.45 | Thunder_Child | cant* |
| 21:11.41 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak (n=cbreak@217-162-191-170.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:20.36 | Guest37173 | How can I change the parent frame of a particular frame? |
| 21:21.40 | Guest37173 | nvm, got it |
| 21:26.58 | *** join/#wowuidev ReAn` (n=rean@d137-186-212-222.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 21:28.39 | cog|away | meow |
| 21:28.54 | Cairenn | purr |
| 21:29.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Legorol|alt (n=legorol@cpc2-sgyl7-0-0-cust387.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:29.37 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol|alt] by ChanServ |
| 21:29.43 | DWSr | mmm |
| 21:29.45 | DWSr | Netsplits |
| 21:29.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Taladris (i=Taladris@unaffiliated/elite3vil) |
| 21:30.25 | DWSR | What strata is the Minimap? Background? |
| 21:30.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 21:31.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Hirsute (n=chatzill@lre-east-3-11.usahousing.utah.edu) |
| 21:32.35 | *** join/#wowuidev eidolarr (n=zls@c-71-61-178-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 21:32.58 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 21:35.14 | *** join/#wowuidev ReAn (n=rean@d137-186-212-222.abhsia.telus.net) |
| 21:35.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Legorol (n=legorol@cpc2-sgyl7-0-0-cust387.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:35.14 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol] by irc.freenode.net |
| 21:35.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Ginji (n=Ginji@cc1040670-a.gorre1.fr.home.nl) |
| 21:36.08 | *** join/#wowuidev TecnoBrat (n=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com) |
| 21:36.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Avalloc (n=_@port-91562.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 21:37.15 | DWSR | I have a frame over the map that I want to show/hide on Mouseover. Currently, it responds to my OnEnter/OnLeave the first time, but after the panel is hidden, it won't show up again when I mouse over the area where it was. Halp? |
| 21:37.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo_ (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 21:38.55 | DWSR | s/map /minimap / |
| 21:39.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 21:39.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Legorol (n=legorol@cpc2-sgyl7-0-0-cust387.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:39.30 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol] by irc.freenode.net |
| 21:40.03 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (n=chrippa@ua-83-227-215-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:40.50 | *** join/#wowuidev NiLon (i=nilon@unaffiliated/nilon) |
| 21:42.12 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 21:42.28 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 21:42.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 21:42.49 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 21:44.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 21:45.35 | Balreign | DWSR, I guess the frame responf to an OnEnter on part of it or an anchor, don't you hide this anchor with your OnLeave? (simple question) |
| 21:47.19 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: the post got deleted for some reason |
| 21:54.33 | DWSR | yeah, I suppose. |
| 21:54.33 | DWSR | Anyway, I'll bbl. |
| 21:54.33 | foxlit | Devourer of Souls voice acting is... dire. |
| 21:55.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus^ (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Dolby (n=Dolby@MMOI/Administrator/pdpc.silver.dolby) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (n=chrippa@ua-83-227-215-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Hirsute (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/Hirsute) |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Hawlr (n=chatzill@c-71-192-250-227.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobwork@136.136.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 21:55.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom_ (n=nahh@ti0121a340-dhcp0974.bb.online.no) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev isman (n=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Odlaw (n=ozzy@c-98-245-3-204.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah|away (n=Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Polarina (n=polarina@wesnoth/translator/Polarina) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Natch| (n=natch@c-bacee155.25-4-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev robotusch (n=robotusc@50A2D944.flatrate.dk) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev ajmitch (n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev devZero (n=devZero@209-20-86-91.slicehost.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev felipe` (n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Trela (n=Alexia@pa-67-234-204-174.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Thrae (i=ircuser@pool-71-179-243-191.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (n=zenzelez@201.238.34.95.customer.cdi.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev [SW]Dodge`oFF (i=dodge@87.98.246.230) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@smtp.mail.averageurl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev nevcairiel (i=quasselc@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Gnarfoz (i=smallbra@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Grum (n=grum@codebase2.xs4all.nl) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Jerub (n=gideon@unaffiliated/jerub) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev ZorbaTHut (i=tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev amro (n=amro@li37-20.members.linode.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Stanzilla (n=Stan@irc.kuja.in) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Olison (i=olison@fukdruidsgrr.org) |
| 21:55.42 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (i=harl@dslb-088-077-198-214.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:55.43 | *** join/#wowuidev fbjork (n=fredrik@c-b193e255.1310-2-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.43 | *** join/#wowuidev cyndis (n=quassel@82.128.138.2) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev SNiLD- (i=snild@a91-153-155-143.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev krka (i=krka@bissa.eu) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaelten (n=Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Mikk (n=Mikk@WoWUIDev/mikk) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev batbot (n=batbot@batbytes.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Kemayo_ (n=kemayo@76.249.244.146) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Dotted (i=Dotted@83.97.101.42) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev nichdu (n=nichdu@nerdcraft.eu) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev jaxdahl (i=foobar@cpe-70-112-126-227.austin.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev qwesto (i=qwesto@stalin.acc.umu.se) |
| 21:55.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+ooo Dolby Seerah|away Kaelten] by irc.freenode.net |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev [Ammo_]_ (i=wouter@ringbreak.dnd.utwente.nl) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev lua_bot (n=lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com) |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Raws (n=ross@pdpc/supporter/active/raws) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Mr_Rabies (n=Mr_Rabie@pool-74-104-166-109.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:55.44 | *** join/#wowuidev haste (i=haste@hirano.ixo.no) |
| 21:56.38 | *** join/#wowuidev olafski_ (n=egrimm@dream.student.utwente.nl) |
| 21:56.44 | *** join/#wowuidev eidolarr_ (n=zls@c-71-61-178-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 21:56.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (n=Aquavett@74-137-180-251.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 21:56.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-31-86.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:56.52 | *** join/#wowuidev jnwhiteh (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 21:56.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o jnwhiteh] by ChanServ |
| 21:56.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin1 (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 21:56.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Xuerian (n=core@70-32-205-51.unassigned.ntelos.net) |
| 21:56.57 | *** join/#wowuidev neOli1 (n=oliv@htr06-1-82-227-228-20.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:57.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 21:57.11 | *** join/#wowuidev wereHamster (n=tomc@caurea.org) |
| 21:57.20 | jnwhiteh | wow.. wtf is going on with irc. |
| 21:58.11 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_121109_231811.jpg |
| 21:58.18 | mikma | irc rules |
| 21:58.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child_ (n=Thunder_@cpe-76-171-31-86.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 22:00.53 | Shirik | okk |
| 22:01.05 | Shirik | I just bought a new headset (earphones and mic) |
| 22:01.08 | Shirik | it uses standard stereo jacks |
| 22:01.15 | Shirik | On the box, it says "compatible with windows" |
| 22:01.19 | Shirik | what the hell is that supposed to mean? |
| 22:01.29 | foxlit | Very Important! |
| 22:01.36 | Bruners | Shirik: its to keep mac users away from it |
| 22:01.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:01.38 | foxlit | You wouldn't want your 3.5mm jack to be incompatible with windows? |
| 22:01.48 | foxlit | I bought a wireless headset. |
| 22:02.13 | foxlit | I'm disappointed that it plugs into USB :/ |
| 22:02.19 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 22:02.22 | foxlit | But the lack of wires is nice. |
| 22:03.04 | alestane | Could be worse, you could be that guy from NAR who wanted his wireless router to not require electricity. |
| 22:03.51 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck cant i login to the wow forums! i want to reply to this http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21726114542&sid=1&pageNo=5#84 |
| 22:04.19 | Thunder_Child_ | Shirik: it prolly means it doesnt need drivers to work. also it meant for idiots |
| 22:04.33 | Arrowmaster | that guys idea of public domain is wrong in as many ways as possible, maybe more |
| 22:09.45 | Arrowmaster | somebody tell this guy "Yes for all channels except WHISPER" http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21724985448&sid=1 |
| 22:10.41 | Arrowmaster | "unless for some reason its sending the whipser to yourself" |
| 22:15.50 | Thunder_Child_ | can mvp's delete forum posts? |
| 22:16.22 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (n=airtonix@ppp121-45-109-64.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 22:16.50 | Arrowmaster | anybody know if handynotes works on instance maps? |
| 22:18.12 | mikma | no, dont know. |
| 22:20.24 | alestane | Arrowmaster: Trying wiping your cookies. |
| 22:20.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Amarande (i=amarande@68-191-37-155.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 22:20.52 | Amarande | o.0, what's with this new encounter type I just read about ... |
| 22:21.00 | Amarande | "Dear Blizzard: those sneaky trash mobs? You know the ones who act like wall statues and arent even clickable until you innocently pull the other trash and they come OMNOMNOM your face? Yeah, fuck you for the Surprise!Buttsechs mobs." -- Amber, "I Like Bubbles" |
| 22:21.37 | Arrowmaster | those are in naxx..... |
| 22:21.43 | Amarande | not that I wouldn't think it that far-fetched to create, seeing as they've had 'come to life' mobs before (ulda anyone?), but ... what's with them in wotlk? :) |
| 22:22.01 | Arrowmaster | they were in naxx in 1.x |
| 22:22.08 | mikma | but |
| 22:22.15 | mikma | they sure in hell were tauntable |
| 22:22.17 | mikma | ffs |
| 22:22.28 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 22:22.30 | Amarande | apparently they're back in icc |
| 22:22.41 | Amarande | say, how's icc on the difficulty front? |
| 22:22.41 | mikma | i dont mind the big bonefellows |
| 22:22.59 | mikma | but i do mind the fact that they are threat-taunted |
| 22:23.49 | mikma | make sure you keep yourself top on the threat or they will nomnom someone else |
| 22:24.00 | Arrowmaster | alestane: ......... |
| 22:24.21 | alestane | It worked the last time that happened to me. |
| 22:24.35 | alestane | Or maybe it was the cache. Not sure. |
| 22:24.53 | mikma | alestane: my cookies dont need wiping, i keep them in the package so they are not dusty |
| 22:24.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah it worked for me too after i just cleared the cookies for worldofwarcraft.com battle.net and wowarmory.com |
| 22:25.13 | Amarande | cool, apparently if I make it to ICC on my hunter, I'm the only class who has to worry about not standing in fire against one of the bosses in particular LOL |
| 22:26.01 | *** join/#wowuidev |ckknight| (i=kvirc@71.207.201.84) |
| 22:27.24 | alestane | Oh, s the ........ you wondering why it took you that long to do it? |
| 22:27.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Admin/Nechckn) |
| 22:27.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 22:28.04 | Amarande | mikma: if your cookies need wiping, just send them into icc with a few noobs |
| 22:28.40 | Amarande | ok, anyone else read the logo on the launcher as "Fail of the Lich King?" |
| 22:29.10 | Cairenn | everyone |
| 22:30.26 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=doingwha@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
| 22:38.50 | *** join/#wowuidev robotusch (n=robotusc@50A2D944.flatrate.dk) |
| 22:41.02 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=KarlKFI@ip68-225-225-215.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 22:46.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Dolby (n=Dolby@MMOI/Administrator/pdpc.silver.dolby) |
| 22:46.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Dolby] by ChanServ |
| 22:49.08 | *** join/#wowuidev AbsolutRayne (n=chatzill@74.127.239.29) |
| 22:49.20 | AbsolutRayne | Afternooneveryone |
| 22:49.39 | Cairenn | hi AbsolutRayne |
| 22:49.48 | DWSR | lol |
| 22:49.51 | DWSR | NETSPLAT. |
| 22:49.53 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: hiya :) It snowing out your way? |
| 22:49.58 | Cairenn | not atm |
| 22:50.00 | DWSR | sighs at Freenode's amazing stability. |
| 22:50.12 | AbsolutRayne | Lame :P |
| 22:52.52 | *** join/#wowuidev theorbtwo (n=theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 22:53.27 | Hirsute | So, did the ignore list not get lengthened to 50 with the patch? |
| 22:53.44 | AbsolutRayne | Not that im aware O_o |
| 22:53.56 | DWSR | IgnoreMore gg. |
| 22:54.04 | Hirsute | My wife has 10 people on her list, and it's telling her she can't place any more on the list. |
| 22:54.25 | Hirsute | DWSR: Unfortunately, IgnoreMore doesn't make sure you don't get grouped with those people via the random dungeon tool. |
| 22:54.29 | AbsolutRayne | Saturaday Afternoon: Mainly Sunny. High: -32°C W 10km/h |
| 22:54.31 | AbsolutRayne | piguyoiegyweogei |
| 22:54.45 | Hirsute | Woo-hoo. |
| 22:54.46 | DWSR | Hirsute: You use the LFD with less than 3 people you know in your group? |
| 22:54.47 | Hirsute | Where is that? |
| 22:54.47 | DWSR | Scrub. |
| 22:54.52 | Amarande | yay random dungeon popped ... please not orange mara not orange mara not orange mara |
| 22:54.55 | Amarande | yay. zf. |
| 22:55.04 | AbsolutRayne | That is Edmonton, Albertaaaaa |
| 22:55.15 | DWSR | Hirsute: All joking aside, I haven't had a problem with people being on my ignore list. |
| 22:55.16 | Hirsute | DWSR: Heh. I never queue up for the random dungeon with anyone I know. |
| 22:55.44 | DWSR | Hirsute: I understand the issue with integration, but imo the ignore list should be like 400 people large or something. |
| 22:56.02 | DWSR | Hirsute: I mean, it's a fucking Oracle db. 400 character names is diddly squat in terms of storage. |
| 22:56.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Cidan (n=alobato@216.52.121.66) |
| 22:56.26 | NightHawkTheSane | im not really sure why there's a limit at all. |
| 22:56.29 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 22:56.41 | AbsolutRayne | Its comforting to know that since illbe going back to New Jersey for Xmas this year, it wont be so bloody cold. But at the same time, there probably wont be snow on the ground :( |
| 22:56.41 | Hirsute | *nod* I just use a chatfilter addon to "ignore" people I don't want to hear from, but again, that doesn't help me not get grouped with them randomly, which is what she's trying to accomplish by trying to add people to the ignore list. |
| 22:56.58 | DWSR | I imagine it's one of those legacy things, from when the servers weren't so powerful. |
| 22:57.11 | DWSR | Hirsute: Again, I understand. but you'll just have to Live With It for now. |
| 22:57.24 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 22:58.54 | Shirik | AbsolutRayne: Seriously? -32? |
| 22:58.59 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah |
| 22:59.02 | Shirik | ow |
| 22:59.11 | Shirik | I mean I usually make fun of you guys for cold temperatures |
| 22:59.23 | Shirik | but that's so low even my heart isn't colder than that |
| 22:59.56 | AbsolutRayne | Its not going to warm up until next week, when it gets back to around 0. |
| 23:00.07 | AbsolutRayne | But even then, with all the snow on the ground, thats just hopeful. |
| 23:00.32 | eidolarr | does anyone else run on Linux with WINE? if so any troubles with WoW since the patch? |
| 23:00.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:01.20 | eidolarr | I can't even connect |
| 23:01.26 | eidolarr | I get a runtime library error |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb|L (n=caleb@dsl4E5C04F0.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C04F0.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Avalloc (n=_@port-91562.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-6-186.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Dagmar (i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar) |
| 23:02.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by irc.freenode.net |
| 23:04.01 | AbsolutRayne | semi-afchat, slaying lots of trolls |
| 23:09.45 | AbsolutRayne | God, I hate people that AFK when they get into the Dungeon que |
| 23:11.21 | Aelobin | i think how long it takes someone to accept the ready check is determining my view on them before the dungeon starts xD |
| 23:15.20 | Arrowmaster | "The account you are logged in with is not able to post on this forum. Please log out and select a different account if you want to post." |
| 23:15.33 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck? did i get banned from the wow forums? |
| 23:16.03 | Polarina | Arrowmaster: Yes. |
| 23:16.03 | foxlit | Aelobin: can you tell, though? |
| 23:16.09 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: account payment roll over day? |
| 23:16.31 | foxlit | There seems to be no way to distinguish which of the three DPS players it was that stalled the group. |
| 23:16.50 | Arrowmaster | no, that was last week i think |
| 23:16.53 | Aelobin | aye but we had a healer who took ages to accept xD |
| 23:17.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@124-171-25-254.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:18.39 | AbsolutRayne | Slowest SM group ever. |
| 23:18.50 | Wobin | http://www.wowace.com/addons/mr-plow/tickets/11-endless-sorting-in-mr-plow-try-item-lvl-sorting-with/ |
| 23:19.03 | Wobin | I'm -so- glad people post tickets with coding advice before looking at the code |
| 23:19.36 | Wobin | Cause it's not like THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT THE CODE ALREADY DOES |
| 23:19.41 | Wobin | >< |
| 23:20.21 | Arrowmaster | i never got any email from blizz so i find it hard to believe theyve banned me from the forums |
| 23:20.33 | Wobin | Arrowmaster ? |
| 23:20.42 | Wobin | Is it the day of your billing cycle? |
| 23:20.46 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:21.00 | Wobin | Is it the day -after- your billing cycle? =) |
| 23:21.15 | amro | Wobin: they still haven't fixed that? I remember that issue from years ago |
| 23:21.22 | Wobin | It happened to me a few months ago |
| 23:22.13 | Arrowmaster | License Status: Active (Expires: Jan 5, 2010) |
| 23:22.33 | olafski | haha if you remove the authenticator you also lose the core hound pup |
| 23:22.36 | olafski | there goes my great idea :( |
| 23:22.55 | Wobin | rly? |
| 23:22.58 | Wobin | =( |
| 23:23.26 | Arrowmaster | although my credit card does expire this month |
| 23:23.37 | DWSR | olafski: Yeah, sucks bad. |
| 23:24.06 | Wobin | "You dont see the familiar misdirect aura over your target, you see it over yourself. Im sure at least some of you feigned death the first time you noticed this visual change. I know I did :P. I also checked my big-brother addon to see who was messing with me. Blizzard, evidently." |
| 23:24.14 | Wobin | I do like the new MD change |
| 23:24.41 | olafski | yeah dwsr :< |
| 23:24.48 | olafski | got a friend coming over tomorrow and he has an iphone |
| 23:24.59 | olafski | I'm sure I could have attached that to my account for an hour to get the core hound and remove it again |
| 23:25.05 | olafski | but I guess they thought of that already ;) |
| 23:25.24 | DWSR | yep |
| 23:25.27 | amro | Arrowmaster: blizzard billing is wonky. it's possible there was a problem with the payment, but your account would still be active |
| 23:26.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-40-12.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:26.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.30 | Aelobin | ah you need an authenticator to get a core hound? |
| 23:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 23:26.50 | Xuerian | sadface. No phone that can use the app |
| 23:26.53 | Lopeppeppy | And I've heard that if you later remove the authenticator, your puppy goes too. |
| 23:27.03 | Lopeppeppy | I think there are phone apps which do qualify, Xuerian. |
| 23:27.13 | Xuerian | Lopeppeppy: I know, I'm saying no PHONE that can use the app |
| 23:27.24 | Xuerian | [i have no-] |
| 23:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, you possess no such phone. |
| 23:27.42 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, just woke up, am still fuzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiieeeee! |
| 23:27.43 | AbsolutRayne | Goddddd this Pali tank is so slowwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 23:27.52 | Xuerian | They should just setup a sms server =\ |
| 23:28.04 | Xuerian | try to login, you get a sms with the auth code, enter auth code done =| |
| 23:28.46 | Arrowmaster | i could get past that |
| 23:28.49 | DWSR | Xuerian: You do realize how a) costly that would be and b) how much bandwidth that costs? |
| 23:29.01 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: none and none |
| 23:29.10 | Xuerian | Very very little. |
| 23:29.34 | Arrowmaster | SMS dont even really use any extra bandwidth for the phones |
| 23:29.55 | DWSR | Xuerian: That's the equivalent of having Twitter for all wow subscribers. |
| 23:29.56 | Xuerian | SMS use a sideband of sorts. It's why they're more reliable in heavy traffic times eg emergencies |
| 23:30.21 | Xuerian | DWSR: Your fallacy is that even a major slice of subscribers use or would us the authenticators |
| 23:31.03 | Arrowmaster | and remember theres only about 2 million people each on the US and EU realms |
| 23:31.15 | Arrowmaster | 3 million tops |
| 23:31.18 | Wobin | Xuerian, I'd say a major slice of the subscribers are seriously considering the authenticator |
| 23:31.27 | Wobin | Seeing as they get a vanity pet |
| 23:31.39 | Xuerian | Sure, then they'd quit in a week after getting tired of it |
| 23:31.53 | Lopeppeppy | And lose the pet, as I understand. |
| 23:32.00 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 23:32.09 | Xuerian | As you mentioned, and as my statement counted for |
| 23:32.14 | Xuerian | never underestimate sloth |
| 23:32.21 | Wobin | and that's 2 million in US/EU realms logging in every few hours |
| 23:32.38 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
| 23:32.40 | Xuerian | Which is not even the population of new york |
| 23:32.51 | Wobin | and SMS transmissions are not free |
| 23:33.02 | Xuerian | They're low enough cost that many services can offer them for free for notification |
| 23:33.12 | Wobin | internationally? |
| 23:33.15 | Wobin | I think not |
| 23:33.23 | Xuerian | Who the fuck said anything about international>? |
| 23:33.30 | Wobin | Oh I'm sorry |
| 23:33.38 | Wobin | I forgot that NOONE BUT AMERICANS PLAY WOW |
| 23:33.45 | Xuerian | Don't forget it again =| |
| 23:33.51 | Wobin | Jesus christ |
| 23:33.53 | amro | Wobin: they're not obligated to offer the service to everyone |
| 23:33.58 | Xuerian | ^] |
| 23:34.26 | Arrowmaster | i dont know anything about how SMS are transmitted between carriers but i know they are essentially free for the carrier to handle |
| 23:34.28 | amro | and I'd imagine quite a few people already using authenticators would continue to do so |
| 23:34.48 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, YEs. but we're talking about telco carriers |
| 23:34.56 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 23:35.05 | Wobin | Giving away stuff for free? |
| 23:35.10 | Arrowmaster | which is why they change upto $.25 per SMS |
| 23:35.10 | Wobin | what planet are you living on =P |
| 23:35.19 | Xuerian | Did anyone mention free? |
| 23:35.25 | Xuerian | (Aside from you) |
| 23:35.35 | Wobin | <DWSR> Xuerian: You do realize how a) costly that would be and b) how much bandwidth that costs? |
| 23:35.39 | Wobin | <Arrowmaster> DWSR: none and none. |
| 23:35.46 | Wobin | none == free |
| 23:35.52 | Wobin | imp |
| 23:35.53 | Wobin | o |
| 23:35.56 | Xuerian | You're right. |
| 23:36.04 | Xuerian | I cede that point. |
| 23:36.29 | Arrowmaster | i dont think the carriers charge each other to pass SMS |
| 23:36.37 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, yes, between telcos |
| 23:36.59 | Wobin | but we're not talking about the telecommunications company setting up an sms service |
| 23:37.11 | Wobin | we're talking about Blizzard purchasing the service from the telcos |
| 23:37.31 | Xuerian | http://www.google.com/search?q=sms+notification |
| 23:37.34 | Xuerian | Read a couple links |
| 23:37.44 | Xuerian | Any of them. |
| 23:37.45 | Arrowmaster | theres many free sms gateways online that done pay the telcos anything |
| 23:37.53 | Xuerian | If any of them mention prohibitive costs, I'll cede the entire argument |
| 23:37.59 | *** join/#wowuidev ckknight (i=kvirc@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 23:37.59 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:38.01 | *** join/#wowuidev _ckknight_ (i=kvirc@c-71-207-201-84.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 23:38.05 | Amarande | a company the size of Blizzard could probably negotiate a pretty favorable agreement though I'm sure |
| 23:38.14 | Lopeppeppy | requires gentle huggles. Please to provide? |
| 23:38.23 | zenzelezz | obliges |
| 23:38.28 | Amarande | I mean, c'mon, do you think Blizzard pays the normal bandwidth meter rates you or I would pay if we colocated a server using that kinda bandwidth? LOL |
| 23:38.32 | Amarande | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 23:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles up. |
| 23:38.52 | foxlit | Giant underpants; save boss great shame? For later? |
| 23:38.58 | ckknight | aw, I want in on Lopeppeppy's snuggles |
| 23:39.02 | Lopeppeppy | There's a wicked windstorm outside, it's really creepy. |
| 23:39.07 | Amarande | mm |
| 23:39.10 | Amarande | odd bug. |
| 23:39.11 | Lopeppeppy | ckknight, did you snuggles first? |
| 23:39.11 | Wobin | I can also assure you that any company that offers free sms services also have reasonable terms of use |
| 23:39.27 | Amarande | apparently if you use the Ultrasafe Transporter as a hunter, you can arrive in Gadgetzan mounted and with your pet out. |
| 23:39.29 | Wobin | ie, you can't ask them to send out over 2 million sms' a day |
| 23:39.31 | Amarande | normally mutually exclusive circumstances. |
| 23:39.32 | Xuerian | (On a side note, I'd like to know why wow causes my system process to spike randomly and lag in game) |
| 23:39.38 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: you actually think blizzard pays by bandwidth used? |
| 23:39.46 | Amarande | Arrow: like I said, I doubt it |
| 23:39.57 | Aelobin | Amarande: did they fix the method where you enter an arena, get your pet out, mount, then leave the arena? |
| 23:40.01 | Amarande | while anyone like you or I who hosted a server would go bankrupt on meter charges doing the kind of bandwidth a WoW server does. |
| 23:40.08 | Amarande | Aelobin: no idea. |
| 23:40.09 | Arrowmaster | nobody with a serious hosting service does, they pay for the speed of the links |
| 23:40.10 | Wobin | even Google doesn't allow more than 15k geolocations a day from a single point |
| 23:40.31 | Amarande | all I know is I was in a dungeon, used my ultrasafe transporter because I wanted to go to gadgetzan anyway, and found I'm on my wolf with my croc still out |
| 23:40.43 | Aelobin | :D |
| 23:40.58 | Aelobin | wtb croc mount |
| 23:41.03 | amro | Wobin: both are general public services, plus blizzard can charge an initial fee and pay the provider |
| 23:41.31 | Wobin | Ok, we are still arguing different points =P |
| 23:41.38 | Wobin | YEs, it could be affordable |
| 23:42.06 | amro | okay then. |
| 23:42.08 | Wobin | But Blizzard are making enough money from the current authenticators |
| 23:42.25 | Wobin | to, I suspect, not worry about expanding how they transmit the codes |
| 23:42.31 | Wobin | (also, SMS is highly insecure) |
| 23:42.48 | amro | when did that argument pop up? we were discussing feasiblity, not whether blizzard's accountants would be happy with it |
| 23:42.57 | Arrowmaster | 06:28:45pm <Arrowmaster> i could get past that |
| 23:43.00 | ZorbaTHut | I am willing to believe that Blizzard would "get SMSes" for free. |
| 23:43.01 | Wobin | we're having a valid argument? |
| 23:43.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah i said that when this started |
| 23:43.08 | ZorbaTHut | if not actually get paid for sending them. |
| 23:43.11 | Wobin | ZOMG PONIES |
| 23:43.16 | ckknight | ponies, where? |
| 23:43.31 | Wobin | points |
| 23:43.42 | amro | silly Wobin, that's a pink elephant, not a pony |
| 23:43.45 | Lopeppeppy | Pink sparkly unicorns!!!! |
| 23:43.50 | Wobin | behind the elephant! |
| 23:43.55 | Lopeppeppy | Unicorn, ugly one horned mule! |
| 23:43.56 | amro | squints |
| 23:44.20 | *** join/#wowuidev tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 23:44.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tem] by ChanServ |
| 23:46.51 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 23:47.10 | olafski | I know a bot, her name is anna, anna is her name o/~ |
| 23:47.47 | Wobin | >< |
| 23:47.57 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (n=tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 23:48.04 | olafski | I feel so loved.. got a bunch of mails at 0:01 - 0:05 saying happy birthday from several forums I'm subscribed to |
| 23:48.09 | olafski | good to know who my real friends are! |
| 23:48.30 | Wobin | Happy Birthday olafski! |
| 23:48.34 | olafski | ,-) |
| 23:48.36 | Wobin | <this has been a recorded message> |
| 23:48.43 | olafski | damn now it sounded like I was begging for that :< |
| 23:48.47 | Xuerian | olafski: You know, I had the same sentiment on mine |
| 23:49.00 | Xuerian | Also, Wobin: http://imgur.com/GLqxz |
| 23:49.02 | Wobin | well, if you don't tell us when your birthday is, we can't wish you a happy one |
| 23:49.02 | olafski | xuerian: well, it's a good reminder of which sites to unsubscribe from ;) |
| 23:49.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=Tuller@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:49.13 | Xuerian | olafski: True. |
| 23:49.16 | olafski | "huh I am still signed up there? better cancel it" :) |
| 23:49.16 | *** join/#wowuidev tardmrr (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 23:49.17 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 23:49.39 | Wobin | Xuerian, .... whut? *hides* |
| 23:49.54 | Xuerian | XD |
| 23:50.11 | Xuerian | Sorry, I needed a good toll image, and I figured I'd put it to good use since I found it |
| 23:50.12 | olafski | I don't get it |
| 23:52.13 | Wobin | I'm glad I'm not the only one =P |
| 23:52.23 | Xuerian | =| |
| 23:52.39 | olafski | they still haven't made the battered hilt bind on pickup |
| 23:52.46 | Xuerian | Are they going to? |
| 23:52.51 | olafski | I don't know :P |
| 23:52.53 | olafski | I think they should |
| 23:53.11 | olafski | my gf got her mace but there's nothing stopping her from rolling Need on the next one as well |
| 23:53.26 | olafski | (and giving it to me, but I still think it's lame :P) |
| 23:53.53 | olafski | guess with the Sister blade it was the same back in the day.. but still |
