| 00:00.04 | Dagmar | this is the reason I used to play wizards in D&D |
| 00:00.19 | Dagmar | WobWork: The problem there is that makes the tank have to run even farther usually |
| 00:00.19 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 00:00.20 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 00:00.21 | WobWork | doesn't help if they charge, mind you |
| 00:00.32 | Dagmar | I've had mixed success with disengaging |
| 00:00.34 | WobWork | Well |
| 00:00.36 | WobWork | then DIE =P |
| 00:00.40 | Dagmar | That I do |
| 00:00.43 | WobWork | honestly =P |
| 00:00.52 | WobWork | but rule 1 |
| 00:00.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i end up using disengage to avoid area damage or something along those lines. >.> |
| 00:00.56 | WobWork | don't pull aggro |
| 00:01.07 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Thank god it works better than jumping does |
| 00:01.30 | Dagmar | Jumping out of fire means you burn for longer |
| 00:02.06 | WobWork | I just find it silly that you're complaining about how hard it is to not pull aggro |
| 00:02.06 | WobWork | and you're a hunter =P |
| 00:02.06 | Dagmar | I love that Disengage seems to work like blink |
| 00:02.06 | WobWork | The whole -point- of huntering is to manage aggro |
| 00:02.06 | Dagmar | I'm not complainign about that, I'm sort of carping about what to do with it when I've had to _take_ aggro to keep someone else from getting pasted |
| 00:02.32 | Dagmar | I probably carp at people creeping up behind me on the threat list more often than most tanks |
| 00:02.51 | WobWork | although, really, if a healer is getting aggro, -someone- isn't doing their job |
| 00:03.04 | WobWork | if a mage is getting aggro, they can iceblock |
| 00:03.10 | WobWork | if a warlock, soulshatter |
| 00:03.40 | WobWork | most of the major dps have some sort of aggrodump |
| 00:03.44 | WobWork | or reduction |
| 00:03.48 | WobWork | (except enh shammies) |
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| 00:04.01 | WobWork | (we just have improved death) |
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| 00:05.19 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, healers tend to pull agro quickly on newly spawned adds, but yeah, on anything thats being tanked, they shouldnt ever |
| 00:05.27 | Dashkal | ~karma hg |
| 00:05.27 | purl | hg has neutral karma |
| 00:05.48 | Jerub | Healing ony is sometimes a big problem if you're healing the tank tanking the elites. |
| 00:06.10 | Jerub | because the blast wave will 1shot me, but if i get whelped the OT doesn't usually see me because i'm too far away. |
| 00:06.11 | Dagmar | argh brb |
| 00:06.11 | WobWork | Jerub: yeah, damn whelps |
| 00:06.24 | WobWork | Although if there are only a couple of whelps |
| 00:06.27 | WobWork | I use them as mana batteries |
| 00:07.01 | WobWork | but there are never only just a 'couple' of whelps =( |
| 00:07.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: yeah, although usually you can stand on/near the whelp tank and still hit the elite tank |
| 00:08.02 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: sometimes, yes, but raid awareness, especially during the hilarious moments when there's a deep breath (or a FUCKING WHELP PET) is at all time lows in my raids. |
| 00:09.21 | WobWork | ahaha |
| 00:09.25 | Jerub | i ran ony10 4 times this week until i found a non-fail group |
| 00:09.45 | Lunessa | WobWork: We have Wind Shear for aggro reduction. It's just not great for that. |
| 00:09.54 | Jerub | (and then i got my purified shard of the flame and was a superhappycamper who forgave everyone) |
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| 00:10.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ... does anyone actually USE wind shear for the agro reduction, though? :P |
| 00:10.22 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I do. When the tank is weak. |
| 00:10.34 | Lunessa | I hammer that bitch every 6 seconds. |
| 00:11.02 | WobWork | Lunessa: hehe so we do |
| 00:11.43 | WobWork | although it's very much in the idea of a boomkin swapping to catform to cower |
| 00:11.45 | Lunessa | I may not be 'cutting edge' or 'the best' or ever 'top 10%' but I'm a damned fine enhancement shaman. |
| 00:11.52 | Jerub | man, I was superchuffed when i broke 2200 SP beginning of last week, now i'm over 2500. |
| 00:11.58 | WobWork | oh, hey, there's one that doesn't have a aggro reduction =P |
| 00:13.01 | NightHawkTheSane | one what? |
| 00:13.07 | WobWork | boomkin |
| 00:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, yeah |
| 00:13.48 | Jerub | sure they do. they just go kitty and hit cower :P |
| 00:13.56 | Jerub | ;) |
| 00:14.08 | NightHawkTheSane | man, no one uses cower either :P |
| 00:14.39 | WobWork | feral dps just go JFM |
| 00:14.54 | Jerub | JFM? |
| 00:16.00 | WobWork | http://www.flickr.com/photos/rezman/3525757995/sizes/o/ |
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| 00:17.14 | Fisker | slaps WobWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:17.45 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: okay, thats awesome |
| 00:17.52 | Lunessa | WobWork: JOHN FUCKING MADDEN |
| 00:18.02 | Jerub | oh right |
| 00:18.07 | Jerub | sorry, I know that graphic. |
| 00:18.51 | WobWork | It's the perfect representation =) |
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| 00:22.27 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:23.10 | Lunessa | hoses Fisker down with a blaster set on 'Deep Fat Fry.' |
| 00:28.20 | Fisker | goodnight Lunessa |
| 00:28.22 | Fisker | i hope i die |
| 00:28.51 | NightHawkTheSane | so do we. |
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| 00:43.06 | Lunessa | Apparently I should read my Live Journal friends list more often. |
| 00:47.32 | Thunder_Child | can you delete things in combat? |
| 00:47.42 | Bruners | yes |
| 00:47.47 | alestane | What sorts of things? |
| 00:47.48 | Thunder_Child | via script/lua? |
| 00:48.09 | Bruners | i would guess not |
| 00:48.12 | alestane | Items? As long as you can pick them up. |
| 00:48.26 | Thunder_Child | alestane, can you bypass the 'DELETE' thing for epics? |
| 00:48.41 | Jerub | i'm the only feral dps in my guild. i'm hoping that one of my guildies will get a druid alt to 80 this year so i can poke him until he gets it right. |
| 00:48.43 | alestane | I think so, if you REALLY want to. |
| 00:49.23 | NightHawkTheSane | can you actually DELETE items that require the typed confirmation? |
| 00:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | rather, do it without user input? |
| 00:49.42 | Jerub | man, why would you ever want an addon to do that? |
| 00:49.52 | NightHawkTheSane | you wouldn't.. but it doesn't mean you can't :P |
| 00:49.56 | Thunder_Child | i might have a good reason |
| 00:50.18 | alestane | I think that if you call DeleteCursor() or whatever the function is, it just deletes the item with no confirmation. |
| 00:50.44 | Thunder_Child | ok, so, based on the video of shadowmourne by mmo-champion, someone may need to write an addon to delete the soul fragments so you never hit 10. since 380 str> 2K aoe |
| 00:51.14 | Thunder_Child | assuming some things |
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| 00:51.30 | Thunder_Child | Bibi-, poke |
| 00:51.34 | Bibi- | fuck you |
| 00:51.41 | WobWork | the soul fragments are an -inventory- item? |
| 00:51.50 | Thunder_Child | thats what i am asking Bibi- |
| 00:51.55 | Thunder_Child | yes/no? |
| 00:52.09 | Bibi- | how would I know |
| 00:52.14 | Thunder_Child | didnt you do the vid? |
| 00:52.17 | WobWork | cause you're clever! |
| 00:52.18 | Bibi- | you can't imagine how many weird sandbox hacks there are behind this video |
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| 00:52.53 | Lunessa | HAX! |
| 00:53.19 | Thunder_Child | ty Lunessa, that was obviously needed |
| 00:53.35 | Lunessa | Of course it was. Tension breaker. Had to be done. |
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| 00:54.16 | ccox | SPAM just received: Subject: {%CXSUBJECT%} |
| 00:54.16 | ccox | {%OFFER%} |
| 00:54.17 | ccox | {%CXURL%} |
| 00:54.41 | ccox | Gotta love those genius spammers |
| 00:55.18 | Shirik | I had that happen a few weeks ago ccox :) |
| 00:55.19 | Shirik | it was fun |
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| 01:01.54 | WobWork | ccox: how can you -not- take advantage of that fantastic offer? |
| 01:04.07 | NeoTron | ccox: (%CXREPLY%} |
| 01:04.18 | NeoTron | it's a pity you can't actually respond to spam anymore |
| 01:04.28 | NeoTron | back in the good old days they used to use correct senders |
| 01:05.22 | ccox | Neo - that didn't last long! |
| 01:09.53 | Kraps | hey mvps, gratz on the new avatars |
| 01:11.32 | ZorbaBeta | man, standing in a cave and using npcscan + qhradar really feels like cheating |
| 01:12.29 | WobWork | ZorbaBeta: cave? |
| 01:12.33 | Stanzilla | wetlands? |
| 01:12.45 | Stanzilla | I'm there waiting in a cave atm :P |
| 01:12.47 | ZorbaBeta | wob, yeah, it's more cheaty in caves because the combo can literally narrow in on a monster location through multiple walls |
| 01:13.09 | ZorbaBeta | I walk into the cave and npcscan is all "oh yeah there's a rare monster in here somewhere" and qhradar is all "it's here, in this passageway" |
| 01:13.16 | Lunessa | Dancing Dino avatars? |
| 01:13.24 | ZorbaBeta | and I walk through the corridors to that passageway and kill the monster and loot it and it sort of feels unfair. |
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| 01:15.32 | Kraps | Lunessa: dancing iron drakes |
| 01:15.50 | Dagmar | Mainly what it does is remind me that I haven't yet gotten around to catching a rare pokemon this go 'round |
| 01:16.02 | Lunessa | I still see dinos. May have to flush my cache. |
| 01:16.24 | Dagmar | "Oh yes, I know five people within 100 yards of me have gotten Gondria already. Thanks for reminding me you underscoring bastard |
| 01:16.26 | WobWork | Lunessa: link? |
| 01:17.17 | Lunessa | WobWork: MVP icons in UI & Macros forms. I'm seeing the old dino icon/avatar. I keep hearing there's a new one. |
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| 01:18.37 | WobWork | looks iron drakey to me! |
| 01:21.53 | WobWork | hm |
| 01:22.03 | WobWork | is /dump integrated into Blizz functionality? |
| 01:22.13 | alestane | Now it is, yes. |
| 01:24.06 | WobWork | ta |
| 01:27.47 | Lunessa | Yeah, flushed Firefox's cache, new avatar is sexy. |
| 01:31.36 | Lunessa | Also note: People who complain that I didn't read their post can suck it. |
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| 01:37.20 | NightHawkTheSane | is kind of in that had-a-bad-day-leave-me-the-fuck-alone mood, despite not actually having a terrible day >< |
| 01:38.40 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane and the Terrible, Horrible, No God, Very Bad Day |
| 01:38.45 | WobWork | er No Good |
| 01:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: we can always make that into a bad day! |
| 01:40.22 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: is QHradar new? |
| 01:41.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: i'd really rather you didn't |
| 01:42.38 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: .. well, could always sick the Fiskerdin on you and let nature take its course |
| 01:42.48 | ScytheBlade1 | (okay okay, I'll stop now :P) |
| 01:43.07 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, fisker's just a harmless little puppy |
| 01:43.18 | ScytheBlade1 | whoa, hey now |
| 01:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not the one provoking him |
| 01:43.24 | Jerub | unlike that yammy psycho yesterday. |
| 01:43.24 | WobWork | do we have maintenence today? |
| 01:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be you |
| 01:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe a harmless puppy with poor bladder control, but meh |
| 01:43.51 | WobWork | rants about yammy |
| 01:44.24 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.33 | Jerub | ffs. I talked to yammy ONCE on an irc channel and he/she/it imprinted on me or something. |
| 01:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what happens when you talk to people |
| 01:45.13 | Jerub | in fact, i think there's still a ban on #python |
| 01:45.38 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.13 | Dagmar | Yeah, somehow it doesn't work when they're throwing those details in your face. |
| 01:47.16 | Jerub | ah, this is my most recent previous interaction: |
| 01:47.17 | Jerub | 60750:11:08 < Jerub> yammygirlcoding: uh, never, ever, initiate a dcc chat, and never, ever, /msg someone you don't know and haven't talked to without permission |
| 01:47.32 | Jerub | that was '06 |
| 01:47.34 | Dagmar | I give chicks in IT preferential treatment, but not when they're asking for it. |
| 01:48.12 | Dagmar | Jerub: If she asks why, find a chargen port real quick |
| 01:49.47 | Jerub | Dagmar: i've been amazed too many times by women/children/oldpeople/blindpeople to give anyone preferential treatment. I focus on merit only these days. |
| 01:50.13 | Dagmar | I give 'em preferential treatment because other guys tend to treat them like they're dimwitted |
| 01:50.25 | Dagmar | Plus there's not enough chicks in IT |
| 01:50.45 | Dagmar | I am an equal-opportunity encourager. |
| 01:50.47 | Jerub | Dagmar: i've been amazed too many times by men/professionals/consultants to give anyone preferential treatment. I focus on merit only these days. |
| 01:50.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i treat everyone like i loath their very being |
| 01:50.50 | NightHawkTheSane | usually because i do. |
| 01:51.00 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I keep that secret |
| 01:51.47 | Jerub | (that is to say, if they're dimwitted, that's how i treat them) |
| 01:52.12 | Dagmar | If they're dimwits it all goes out the window |
| 01:52.23 | Dagmar | THey don't need to be working in IT |
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| 01:54.31 | Lunessa | I'll be honest. I treat women differently than men. I think that will always be the case. I don't however treat them better or worse than men. Just differently. |
| 01:54.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Sexist. |
| 01:55.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (too easy) |
| 01:55.47 | Dagmar | I treat 'em better, because I want more of them in IT. |
| 01:55.55 | Dagmar | Tired of working in sausage factories |
| 01:56.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Same, actually |
| 01:56.21 | Jerub | meh, i've worked with wimmin in IT. they're just like men |
| 01:56.36 | Jerub | except with fouler mouths in my experience. |
| 01:56.38 | Lunessa | Naturally. Only you have IT in common with them. |
| 01:56.54 | Dagmar | Jerub: Which is for some reason really disturbing |
| 01:57.10 | Dagmar | One of our people here was a marine in a former life |
| 01:57.21 | Dagmar | It freaks me out every time she curses up a storm about something |
| 01:58.33 | Lunessa | Nothing shocks me. I've been to sea. |
| 02:01.20 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: well... I went from 2 fc boxes to 3, despite losing a laptop. go me? |
| 02:02.22 | batrick | cog|away: lol :) |
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| 02:34.47 | cog|away | batrick: ? meetup? |
| 02:36.25 | cog|away | s/ m/ ... / |
| 02:36.32 | cog|away | moo |
| 02:43.41 | cog|away | also can anyone help me figure this out: "integrate" is to "meta" (in common geek parlance) as "differentiate" is to __________? I'm trying to pick a name for a subforum. One will be called Meta for discussing the forums/group itself, the other will be for discussions about the relevant topics... |
| 02:44.25 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, uh, gonna go with 42 |
| 02:44.33 | cog|away | feel free to vote for suggestions from http://oxymoronredundancyparadoxtrap.blogspot.com/2007/12/meta-and-its-antonym.html if you'd rather not come up with something yourself :P |
| 02:47.43 | Lunessa | cog|away: I think you're looking for "mono" |
| 02:48.54 | ScytheBlade1 | So, gamestop had a buy 2 get 1 free deal this last weekend |
| 02:49.09 | cog|away | ScytheBlade1: surprise topic change! |
| 02:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to say, $30 for bioshock, halo 3, and burnout revenge was okay with me |
| 02:49.14 | cog|away | :P |
| 02:49.17 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 02:49.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I already gave you my answer |
| 02:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | You should just label it '42' and be done with it |
| 02:50.20 | ScytheBlade1 | besides |
| 02:50.22 | cog|away | but but but... |
| 02:50.26 | cog|away | likes analogies |
| 02:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | It was a pretty great deal, even you'd have to agree |
| 02:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 02:50.43 | cogwheel | Why yes, yes it was |
| 02:50.50 | Lunessa | Surprise Topic Change not as fun as Surprise Buttsekz. |
| 02:51.44 | cogwheel | crosses his fingers |
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| 03:03.51 | WobWork | cogwheel: posted =P |
| 03:04.29 | WobWork | hm, or possibly the sqrt(-1st wall) |
| 03:06.00 | Stanzilla | iWall? |
| 03:08.41 | WobWork | well, 'meta' is essentially fourth wall |
| 03:08.47 | WobWork | imo |
| 03:09.07 | WobWork | it's the point where the situation gains self awareness of itself as a situation |
| 03:09.34 | WobWork | to anthromorphise the concept =P |
| 03:10.46 | cogwheel | yup |
| 03:11.26 | cogwheel | "fourth wall" is a term it took me way too long to find when I was looking for it before google |
| 03:11.41 | cogwheel | s/it/which/ |
| 03:12.25 | cogwheel | when I was trying to explain to people what I liked about movies like airplane, hot shots, and anything by mel brooks |
| 03:14.08 | WobWork | discovered it when reading Deadpool =) |
| 03:14.41 | WobWork | was so disappointed at the terrible Ryan Reynolds version |
| 03:14.47 | cogwheel | broke it when he improvised a joke during a play and started laughing |
| 03:15.15 | cogwheel | in all fairness, i only started laughing because it got the biggest laughs all night >< |
| 03:15.43 | WobWork | http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/23442914/2208435 |
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| 03:18.30 | Lunessa | WobWork: I should steal that, but I'm out of space for lj-user pics. |
| 03:18.47 | WobWork | steal away! =) |
| 03:18.55 | WobWork | everyone should get some deadpool goodness |
| 03:19.11 | WobWork | I couldn't fit the shoyuryuken into an icon effectively |
| 03:20.55 | WobWork | although I probably could get "Yay now is fighty time" down to size... |
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| 03:26.16 | Lunessa | Haha. |
| 03:27.47 | WobWork | oh. |
| 03:27.47 | WobWork | http://store.valvesoftware.com/productshowcase/productshowcase_WCC-Plush.html |
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| 03:35.07 | Thunder_Child | someone needs to buy that and throw it in a flaming trashcan |
| 03:37.03 | Lunessa | doesn't get it. Must not have ever played what it's from. |
| 03:37.10 | Thunder_Child | Portal |
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| 03:37.33 | kd3 | wahaha, they're still selling the weighted companion cubes? |
| 03:37.38 | kd3 | looks for his credit card |
| 03:37.40 | Thunder_Child | major fail tbh Lunessa, it's an awesome game |
| 03:37.57 | Lunessa | I don't even know which game it is. |
| 03:38.16 | kd3 | the cake is a lie |
| 03:38.19 | kd3 | it was a triumph |
| 03:39.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: you are so this guy, aren't you: http://xkcd.com/606/ |
| 03:39.50 | Dagmar | Someone's _selling_ companion cubes? |
| 03:39.58 | Dagmar | How the hell did they get them out of the testing center? |
| 03:40.33 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I'm not even that guy. I just don't play a lot of non-mmo games for like, the last 15 years. Which makes me feel triply pathetic now. |
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| 03:40.42 | Dagmar | Oh I see. *plush* |
| 03:40.51 | Dagmar | They need to make 'em out of nerf-style foam latex |
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| 04:26.02 | Lunessa | Night all. |
| 04:29.19 | Arrowmaster | WobWork: i have one of those, got it for christmas last year |
| 04:30.06 | Arrowmaster | they asked what the level cap in original WoW was on the 1vs100 video games edition, half the people got it wrong, and the options were 80 60 100 |
| 04:30.14 | Shirik | Iriel: I have successfully confused the hell out of that theorem prover, btw |
| 04:30.36 | Shirik | for my final project, I am proving optimizations of 3D projectile applications, and it's been proving something for 15 minutes now |
| 04:30.54 | Jerub | the original wow was a diku, which would make it 50, surely. |
| 04:32.11 | Arrowmaster | wtf all your base question on the web edition |
| 04:32.31 | Arrowmaster | typing without looking |
| 04:33.05 | Iriel | Shirik: Nice, maybe it had to nip out to starbucks for some coffee for a late night proving session? |
| 04:33.25 | Arrowmaster | fucking rickrolling question too |
| 04:36.57 | Arrowmaster | half this shit is fucking memes |
| 04:37.53 | NightHawkTheSane | on the web edition? thats crazy. its like the web isn't half memes these days |
| 04:38.57 | Arrowmaster | star wars kid question, now theyre going to get sued |
| 04:40.59 | Arrowmaster | dr horrible question, at least thats worth it |
| 04:46.00 | Dagmar | Why would they get sued over a Star Wars kid question |
| 04:46.11 | Dagmar | ...unless they were asking something rude like "Will this kid ever get laid?" |
| 04:46.55 | Dagmar | ...or "Which type of slash is the Star Wars kid most likely to be fapping to, right... now...?" |
| 04:48.40 | Arrowmaster | the family sued a lot of sites and news services over it |
| 04:49.13 | Arrowmaster | including wikipedia i think |
| 04:53.27 | Dagmar | Truth hurts when your kid is fat, apparently. |
| 04:53.43 | Dagmar | I suppose it would be easier than making him get some exercise so he could lose some weight. |
| 04:53.47 | Dagmar | No one would recognize him |
| 04:53.52 | Arrowmaster | hes also mentally unstable |
| 04:54.09 | Dagmar | I don't think waving a stick around makes someone unstable |
| 04:54.12 | WobWork | and? =P |
| 04:54.20 | WobWork | Noone knew he was mentally unstable |
| 04:54.33 | WobWork | because a lot of us could see ourselves doing exactly the same thing =P |
| 04:54.47 | WobWork | (or had done so in the past, albeit not in front of a webcam) |
| 04:54.54 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 04:54.57 | Dagmar | pretty much |
| 04:55.10 | Dagmar | For me it wasn't so bizarre because I am not bad with a quarterstaff |
| 04:55.24 | Dagmar | ...which is, you know, one of the more useless skills. |
| 04:55.25 | Jerub | I'm appalling with a staff. |
| 04:55.35 | Jerub | I block blows with my hands instead of the staff. |
| 04:55.36 | Dagmar | You can't carry one of those concealed, and you can't very well carry them unconcealed either. |
| 04:55.49 | Dagmar | Jerub: s/hands/knuckles/;? |
| 04:55.50 | WobWork | I prefer a jo staff |
| 04:55.55 | Jerub | I'm much better with axes/maces. |
| 04:55.57 | Jerub | Dagmar: yeah. |
| 04:56.20 | Jerub | too much unarmed martial arts. makes me want to block with fleshy bits. |
| 04:56.25 | Dagmar | I have very long arms and broad shoulders. |
| 04:56.37 | Arrowmaster | i prefer a crossbow |
| 04:56.50 | WobWork | Dagmar: You're the type that holds the shorter folk away by the head at arms reach, aren't you? =P |
| 04:56.50 | Dagmar | Yeah, it's unarmed martial arts that makes me want a stick as big as I am |
| 04:57.06 | Dagmar | WobWork: No, I just hit people from the next county over |
| 04:57.14 | WobWork | That's a very long staff |
| 04:57.19 | WobWork | (That's what -she- said!) |
| 04:57.20 | Dagmar | *g* |
| 04:57.23 | Dagmar | Why thank you! |
| 04:58.13 | Dagmar | I took classes to avoid hurting people. I've got one o' them hyperactive adrenal glands |
| 04:58.57 | Jerub | I stopped doing martial arts when i started evaluating every person in the vicinity when in public. |
| 04:59.17 | Dagmar | Meh. I started doing that after a few robberies |
| 04:59.31 | Dagmar | If I hadn't had some training, I would have probably accidentally killed someone in the months following those |
| 04:59.34 | Jerub | that's different. i'm in a very safe city and i work in a poky little office :P |
| 04:59.55 | WobWork | Jerub: everyone who does some form of martial arts does that |
| 05:00.08 | Dagmar | I live in a _relatively_ safe city, but I also had that freakish raver physique |
| 05:00.22 | Dagmar | If I lost my cool, I'd wind up doing something weird and very unfair |
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| 05:01.49 | WobWork | like flicking the lights on and off |
| 05:01.52 | WobWork | and waving a glowstick? |
| 05:02.10 | Dagmar | No, like breaking someone's neck with your legs |
| 05:02.39 | Torhal | Dagmar: You'd break someone's neck with WobWork's legs? |
| 05:02.44 | Dagmar | Maybe |
| 05:02.47 | Torhal | That IS weird |
| 05:02.50 | WobWork | Jerub: http://xkcd.com/337/ |
| 05:02.54 | Dagmar | Not kidding either. |
| 05:03.13 | WobWork | Also intercontinental |
| 05:03.21 | Dagmar | I was going to nightclubs 4-5 nights a week, dancing 2-3 hours a night, generally hitting a rave on teh weekends and doing 6-10 hours dancing there |
| 05:03.42 | Jerub | Dagmar: how the hell did you have time to raid? |
| 05:03.48 | Dagmar | ...and taking a bit of acid. My ability to determine whether or not something was impossible or sane was shot to hell |
| 05:03.57 | kd3 | what is this "sleep" of which you speak? |
| 05:04.17 | kd3 | speaking of... being sick sucks |
| 05:04.25 | kd3 | especially having to work while sick |
| 05:04.35 | Dagmar | I um, once made a really spectacularly bad escape from some hillbilllies who wanted to beat my ass outside my favorite haunt |
| 05:04.37 | WobWork | =( |
| 05:05.02 | Dagmar | Wearing a felt dredlock hat (Yes, I looked like a muppet) I scampered up the side of a u-haul truck at full tilt |
| 05:05.08 | Dagmar | Oh, and the kid gloves. |
| 05:05.30 | Dagmar | Peering over the edge to see about 100 people staring at me, yeah... |
| 05:05.31 | Dagmar | Fun. |
| 05:05.45 | WobWork | AN-I-MAL |
| 05:05.52 | WobWork | DRUMS |
| 05:06.03 | Dagmar | It was a Jackie Chan kinda thing |
| 05:06.24 | WobWork | was it bad because then you were inside a uhaul? |
| 05:06.48 | Dagmar | Breakdancing flips, capoeria, etc. It's good exercise, but very bad in teh wrong (irresponsible) hands |
| 05:06.57 | Dagmar | WobWork: Not inside. On TOP of |
| 05:07.21 | WobWork | Friends don't let friends breakdance drunk =( |
| 05:07.26 | Dagmar | I came tear assing down the street, and had one of those "moments". I figured they couldn't get on top the truck, but it was no problem for nme |
| 05:07.36 | Dagmar | Not drunk, tripping. |
| 05:07.40 | Dagmar | I wasn't that night. |
| 05:07.46 | WobWork | s/drunk/high/ |
| 05:07.54 | WobWork | well |
| 05:07.55 | WobWork | could they? |
| 05:08.16 | Dagmar | There's just only so many nights you can ignore the walls flexing and wobbling before your ability to determine that things are getting to weird becomes impaired even when you're sober |
| 05:08.18 | WobWork | (granted if there were 100 of them, they could surround it..) |
| 05:08.22 | Dagmar | They couldn't. |
| 05:08.40 | Dagmar | However it wasn't real hard for them to figure out where I was |
| 05:08.55 | Dagmar | I was good except for the 100 or so people doing the point and stare |
| 05:09.32 | Dagmar | ...and let me ask you... would YOU want to talk to teh cops in a felt dredlock hat, sunglasses with mismatched lenses, white kid gloves, etc? |
| 05:09.51 | Jerub | Dagmar: i dunno, that'd be pretty funny. |
| 05:10.18 | Dagmar | Yeha well, I got along with the cops downtown because I always kept things on the downlow. I generated no paperwork for them, they gave me no crap about my behaviour. |
| 05:10.46 | Dagmar | Being in freakish shape was my secondary hobby to dancing then |
| 05:11.42 | Dagmar | Either way, dressed like that it wouldn't much matter if I was innocent of eveerything |
| 05:11.47 | WobWork | when will people learn |
| 05:11.50 | Dagmar | They'd have dragged me over to precinct just for the amusement value |
| 05:11.50 | WobWork | don't mess with the crazy |
| 05:12.20 | Dagmar | Rednecks do *not* know that rule |
| 05:12.26 | WobWork | true |
| 05:12.40 | Dagmar | They're generally there *to* mess with the crazy, and drink, in reverse order |
| 05:12.52 | WobWork | or at the same time |
| 05:12.55 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 05:13.04 | WobWork | as long as they don't spill their drink |
| 05:13.13 | Jerub | hm, shutdown night tonight. |
| 05:13.32 | Dagmar | Man one of our people got busted for tresspassing on the construction site a block from the club one night |
| 05:13.33 | WobWork | rly? |
| 05:13.35 | WobWork | no alert =( |
| 05:13.59 | WobWork | Dagmar: "our people"? |
| 05:14.00 | Jerub | oh, interesting, nothing listed on the service status forum. |
| 05:14.02 | Dagmar | He was tripping, it was a little foggy, and was just "exploring" |
| 05:14.11 | Dagmar | WobWork: Yes, "raver people" |
| 05:14.12 | WobWork | good place to explore |
| 05:14.32 | Jerub | might actually be able to get ony25 done tonight. |
| 05:14.44 | Dagmar | Well, the cops didn't think so considering they had to coax him down from about the seventh floor of what was mostlyt scaffolding and girders |
| 05:14.48 | Jerub | or an uld10. that might be nice. go as tank. |
| 05:15.02 | Dagmar | They were expecting miscreants, not lunatics. |
| 05:15.02 | WobWork | rounding up ravers == herding cats? |
| 05:15.14 | Dagmar | Cats giggle less |
| 05:15.17 | WobWork | s/cats/cats on catnip/ |
| 05:15.44 | Dagmar | This is what eventually became "The Bat Building" so it also went about seven floors _down_ too |
| 05:15.46 | WobWork | Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8 |
| 05:16.09 | Dagmar | Yep. Seen it on CNN and cuteoverload.com today |
| 05:16.11 | Dagmar | Very cute |
| 05:17.38 | Dagmar | The problem with teh cops was that while ravers definitely qualify as "mostly harmless" there's always the chance they'll have some really weird drugs on them, and may be doing something _really_ weird |
| 05:17.56 | Dagmar | Like making dramatic silhouettes in really dangerous places |
| 05:17.59 | Dagmar | heh |
| 05:18.28 | Dagmar | ...or trying to fit themselves into a newspaper machine (actually happened) |
| 05:18.31 | WobWork | Do deformed rabbit |
| 05:18.34 | WobWork | it's my favourite |
| 05:19.00 | Jerub | Dagmar: did the newspaper raver live? |
| 05:19.06 | Dagmar | I mean, late shift cops dont' like playing hall monitor much, and with ravers, that's pretty much ALL they wind up doing |
| 05:19.17 | Dagmar | Jerub: What's more, he actually fit |
| 05:19.25 | Dagmar | Someone called because they thought he was stuck. |
| 05:19.27 | Dagmar | ..which he was. |
| 05:19.30 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 05:19.51 | Dagmar | Thirty-five cents to get my friend back before the cops showed up. |
| 05:20.02 | Dagmar | Way better than making bail for being a public absurdity |
| 05:20.06 | Jerub | ooooh |
| 05:20.11 | Jerub | i thought you meant a printing press. |
| 05:20.15 | Jerub | you mean one of those weird dispensers. |
| 05:20.21 | WobWork | yeah, we don't have newspaper machines =) |
| 05:20.21 | Dagmar | No, I mean like the thing you buy papers out of on the side of hte street |
| 05:20.35 | Dagmar | He managed to get entirely in it, and then it shut |
| 05:20.46 | WobWork | Was he a tabloid? |
| 05:20.54 | Dagmar | He wasn't that bothered because a) he was on acid and b) it was kinda nippy outside |
| 05:21.03 | Jerub | Dagmar: non-americans only see those things in movies and tv. |
| 05:21.30 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 05:21.55 | Dagmar | One of these: http://www.necrotalesgames.com/models/newspaperDispenser_thumb.jpg |
| 05:22.41 | Dagmar | They *will* fit a moderately small person if you move the grille that sits about halfway down inside them |
| 05:23.01 | Dagmar | This however, is the sort of thing generally only a small child, or a slightly larger lunatic will ever prove to themselves. |
| 05:24.38 | Dagmar | Hearing all this crap can you really BLAME the british for trying to ban ravers altogether? |
| 05:25.45 | Jerub | Dagmar: no, not at all. |
| 05:25.52 | Jerub | you've presented a convincing argument. |
| 05:25.53 | Dagmar | Heh. I dont' either |
| 05:27.17 | ZorbaBeta | eh, I can. it shows a complete failure to understand human nature :P |
| 05:27.26 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 05:27.44 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: what's qhradar? |
| 05:28.24 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, it shows a green spot on your minimap where your current target is. it narrows down the possibilities as you move around, based on your current distance. automatic triangulation. |
| 05:28.29 | Dagmar | *gasp* Google doesn't know! |
| 05:28.39 | ZorbaBeta | sometimes it narrows things down to a five-yard square in seconds. |
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| 05:28.54 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: I think I love you. |
| 05:29.03 | ZorbaBeta | sometimes it takes a little longer, but it's almost always faster than looking yourself |
| 05:29.27 | ZorbaBeta | just an hour ago I used it to track down a rare monster that turned out to be standing on a cliff, behind another cliff, around a group of trees. :D |
| 05:29.43 | ZorbaBeta | I'll probably be making a standalone version once I get some free time |
| 05:29.49 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: so this is how i get [Medium Rare] and friends, right? |
| 05:30.11 | ZorbaBeta | it certainly helps with that. I'd use NPCscan to notify you when the monster is nearby, then target it and qhradar narrows it down from there |
| 05:30.53 | ZorbaBeta | I've been using it when looking for more targets. stand in the field of corpses, "/target depressed murloc", move around a little, qhradar says "hey over this way" |
| 05:31.08 | Dagmar | Heh. I have a pet |
| 05:31.16 | Dagmar | Once I have it targeted, I just chase the monkey |
| 05:31.27 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, doesn't work as well for warriors ;) |
| 05:31.33 | Dagmar | Turkinator was _easy_ |
| 05:31.46 | ZorbaBeta | it was! qhradar just told me which way to go |
| 05:33.19 | Yssaril | ZorbaBeta: qhradar can tell you in which direction a target is? |
| 05:33.48 | ZorbaBeta | yssaril, once you move around a little, frequently. it depends on the range and your available abilities - the more differently-ranged abilities you have, the faster it can narrow down. |
| 05:34.19 | Shirik | Iriel, can I have some coffee then? |
| 05:34.21 | Shirik | It's still going... |
| 05:34.22 | Yssaril | ahh pretty cool |
| 05:35.10 | ZorbaBeta | it gives you sort of a heatmap on your minimap, so you can see where it's likely to be. |
| 05:35.39 | Yssaril | totaly integrated into QH though no standalone? |
| 05:35.51 | ZorbaBeta | no standalone yet, but I'll make one. |
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| 05:36.13 | Yssaril | woot (nothing against QH but never had a need for it :) ) |
| 05:36.49 | ZorbaBeta | I've been surprised by how well it works |
| 05:37.00 | ZorbaBeta | the only major issue it has right now is framerate problems when trying to render a lot of heatmap pieces at once. |
| 05:37.12 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 05:37.14 | ZorbaBeta | not really sure how to fix it, or even if it's fixable. |
| 05:38.50 | Yssaril | talk to the makers of Routes that was fps killing initially as hell before it was released iirc |
| 05:39.06 | ZorbaBeta | I don't believe Routes does a bitmap, I think they just use line segments |
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| 05:39.56 | Yssaril | true |
| 05:40.32 | ZorbaBeta | after some experimentation, a 3-yard grid seems to be about as big as I can get without degrading quality significantly. ranges go up to around 100 yards, so as a rough estimate, I can end up repositioning 1000 frames every render cycle. |
| 05:40.37 | ZorbaBeta | that's sort of a worst-case, but it's a pretty damn bad case. |
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| 05:42.20 | Yssaril | ouch |
| 05:42.38 | ZorbaBeta | I wonder if 62,000 frames would kill WoW if they weren't being repositioned |
| 05:42.51 | Yssaril | not last i tried :P |
| 05:43.19 | ZorbaBeta | was rendering okay, or were they not visible? |
| 05:43.28 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: just asking, what happens if you target a party member who is a long distance away? |
| 05:43.49 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, if you can't see them in-game, I can't get any range data, so, absolutely nothing |
| 05:44.11 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: oh, okay, so it doens't matter that they're the current target, i see. |
| 05:44.13 | ZorbaBeta | if you *can* see them ingame, it decides they're (longest-range-you-can-detect)-to-120yd away, and highlights that area. which can get slow. |
| 05:44.26 | Yssaril | ZorbaBeta: not sure how many frames i was using (was way to many for what i needed) but it was up in the thousands and showing hiding them dynamically did not impact fps too bad |
| 05:44.54 | ZorbaBeta | yssaril, huh, interesting. maybe it's just repositioning that kills things |
| 05:45.11 | Yssaril | not sure |
| 05:45.21 | Yssaril | has been a while since i tried |
| 05:45.25 | ZorbaBeta | wonder if I'd do better by drawing a thousand frames over the minimap as an adhoc raster display |
| 05:46.26 | ZorbaBeta | 'course then I'd be setting their colors every frame which may not be a big improvement. |
| 05:46.58 | Yssaril | yea wow can handle tonnes of frames fine just not adjusting them |
| 05:48.53 | ZorbaBeta | one thing I've always wanted to do was write an NES emulator in WoW, but that really hinges on whether WoW's graphics system would melt or not. |
| 05:49.08 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: you're insane. |
| 05:49.16 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: nucking futz. |
| 05:49.30 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, I can't really argue with that. |
| 05:50.05 | ZorbaBeta | For bonus points, make it support network play via addon messages. |
| 05:50.10 | Yssaril | ZorbaBeta: instead of doing it pixle by pixle do it in 3x3 pixle squares |
| 05:50.13 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: NES doesn't have network play, unless you mean splitscreen |
| 05:50.43 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, I mean two controllers, using WoW addon messages to send keypresses across. |
| 05:51.05 | ZorbaBeta | Synchronized state across the two clients, of course. |
| 05:51.27 | ZorbaBeta | yssaril, that could help, yeah |
| 05:51.57 | Yssaril | i mean its imprecise to begin with why do you need a precise rendering system :P |
| 05:52.40 | ZorbaBeta | mario doesn't really need to be any *more* blocky :) |
| 05:53.30 | Yssaril | yea but hes a sprite as such you wouldn't have to mess with idividual pixles anyway |
| 05:54.36 | Shirik | ...... |
| 05:54.44 | ZorbaBeta | unfortunately it doesn't work that way - without doing a lot of preprocessing to extract sprites from the rom somehow, I'd have to do per-pixel rendernig anyway |
| 05:54.56 | ZorbaBeta | there's no way to create sprites on-the-fly in WoW, they all have to be loaded from static files. |
| 05:55.17 | Shirik | Iriel: After however long (2 hours?) |
| 05:55.24 | Shirik | Error: The storage for CONS is exhausted. |
| 05:55.39 | Iriel | nice |
| 05:55.45 | Iriel | prover stack overflow? |
| 05:55.47 | Yssaril | ZorbaBeta: good luck with that :) |
| 05:55.49 | Shirik | 21722219 lines of output |
| 05:55.51 | Shirik | before it failed |
| 05:56.18 | ZorbaBeta | it would be difficult. I may try it someday. :) |
| 05:56.28 | ZorbaBeta | I mean, first step is just to see if rendering works. if it does, the rest is easy. |
| 05:56.32 | ZorbaBeta | for certain values of easy. |
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| 07:34.08 | NightHawkTheSane | what stance number is tree form? |
| 07:35.36 | Jerub | it's 2nd on the bar, if that helps |
| 07:35.43 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. :P |
| 07:35.45 | NightHawkTheSane | its 5 apparently |
| 07:35.47 | NightHawkTheSane | which is a pita. |
| 07:36.17 | NightHawkTheSane | because as feral, 5 is swift flight form |
| 07:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck blizard |
| 07:36.43 | Jerub | fucking blizzard |
| 07:36.58 | NightHawkTheSane | my powershift macro needs two versions now. >< |
| 07:37.41 | Jerub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Stance agrees |
| 07:39.49 | Thunder_Child | how is the blizzard sexing going Jerub? |
| 07:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, being tree/cat is kind of a pain in the ass, you know |
| 07:40.13 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: It's just to spite you |
| 07:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | no doubt :P |
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| 07:56.50 | Fisker | damn |
| 07:56.53 | Fisker | the cancer is spreading |
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| 07:58.59 | Thunder_Child | oh? did you have children Fisker? |
| 08:00.44 | Fisker | naw |
| 08:00.49 | Fisker | but Blizzard is on Facebook now |
| 08:01.04 | Dagmar | wait... wat? |
| 08:01.21 | Fisker | exactly |
| 08:01.28 | zenzio | most other developers are these days anyway |
| 08:01.36 | zenzio | another easy publicity channel |
| 08:02.26 | Fisker | doesn't make it any less cancer |
| 08:02.27 | zenzio | didn't say it did :) |
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| 08:02.50 | Dagmar | You mean this guy? http://www.facebook.com/people/Blizzard-Blizzard-Blizzard/675021022?ref=search |
| 08:04.14 | Dagmar | I'll bet that guy has a belf paladin |
| 08:06.45 | zenzio | "Dell Defect Turning 2.2GHz CPU Into 100MHz CPU?" -- now that would be an interesting bug, if it's true |
| 08:07.33 | Thunder_Child | Fisker, they have been there for some time tbh |
| 08:07.49 | Shirik | zenzio? |
| 08:08.42 | Dagmar | Oh eff me |
| 08:08.43 | Fisker | they just first announced it Thunder_Child |
| 08:08.52 | Fisker | and i don't give a shit about facebook |
| 08:08.56 | Fisker | because it's the cancer |
| 08:08.58 | zenzio | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/30/1818207/Dell-Defect-Turning-22GHz-CPU-Into-100MHz-CPU |
| 08:09.01 | Dagmar | WTF is with this guy asking Slashdot about whether or not he should release "non-malicious" malware? |
| 08:09.01 | Fisker | and it's killing the internet |
| 08:09.16 | Fisker | 22GHz! |
| 08:09.22 | Dagmar | Have we actually become THAT complacent that we're even *asking* those kinds of questions? |
| 08:09.59 | Dagmar | That m*f*'r needs to _release_ the damn thing already. |
| 08:10.12 | Dagmar | Linux is BORING without active threats |
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| 08:18.42 | Shirik | that's win zenzio |
| 08:21.24 | Zyn- | it would be mindblowing if it returned to it's full capacity when under load, and return to ~100mhz while idle :P |
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| 09:06.16 | Wobin | http://springheel-jack.livejournal.com/3086773.html |
| 09:06.19 | Wobin | awesome is awesome |
| 09:06.41 | Wobin | (but requires a rather weird history of movies) |
| 09:09.06 | Shirik | ? |
| 09:09.10 | Corrodias | doesn't get it at all |
| 09:11.07 | Wobin | If you've never seen Un chien andalou, it will be meaningless =P |
| 09:11.22 | Wobin | if you -have- seen Un chien andalou, it will still be meaningless, but in a meaningful way =P |
| 09:13.06 | Shirik | ~x fr en andalou |
| 09:13.15 | Shirik | wtf is an Andalusian dog? |
| 09:13.22 | Sentri | a movie? |
| 09:13.31 | Shirik | is Andalusia some kind of country |
| 09:13.35 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_chien_andalou |
| 09:13.38 | Sentri | or a place |
| 09:13.53 | Wobin | It's a surrealist film by Bunuel and Dali |
| 09:14.31 | Shirik | Andalusia (Spanish: AndalucÃÂa) is an autonomous community of Spain. |
| 09:14.58 | Wobin | watched it in an Advanced English class in primary school |
| 09:15.15 | Shirik | you watched a silent film in an english class |
| 09:15.20 | Shirik | would you like to explain that one? |
| 09:15.36 | Wobin | a silent -surrealist- film =) |
| 09:15.49 | Shirik | still the lack of language is certainly notable... |
| 09:15.51 | Wobin | it was a whole lot of WTF before wtf was even invented |
| 09:16.16 | Wobin | if you read the synopsis on the wiki, you'll note the generous useage of quotation marks =P |
| 09:21.01 | Sentri | ~seen tuller |
| 09:21.13 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 13m 53s ago, saying: 'waffles :P'. |
| 09:21.13 | Sentri | hmm fail |
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| 09:21.53 | Sentri | omg he's a ninja |
| 09:22.01 | Sentri | I didn't notice he was here |
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| 09:23.55 | haste | waffles |
| 09:23.59 | haste | do want |
| 09:24.15 | haste | or stroopwafel, those are also nice |
| 09:26.07 | Thunder_Child | i le amused http://gizmodo.com/5415358/a-stoplight-for-the-progress-bar-generation |
| 09:27.01 | Sentri | would love to have a progress bar on my toaster |
| 09:27.06 | Sentri | or coffee maker |
| 09:27.38 | Shirik | xszddDD |
| 09:27.51 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shirik |
| 09:27.51 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to Shirik, and goes postal |
| 09:28.08 | Shirik | screw keyboards |
| 09:28.19 | Thunder_Child | that sounds...painful |
| 09:28.36 | haste | Sentri: just look at how much water is left |
| 09:28.49 | haste | if you didn't know it kinda works as a progress bar |
| 09:28.53 | Shirik | that will never hit off, Thunder_Child |
| 09:28.56 | Sentri | naa progress bar would be way more cool |
| 09:29.00 | Shirik | the stop light |
| 09:29.14 | Shirik | Too many traffic lights have dynamic timings |
| 09:29.22 | Shirik | you can't accurately say how much longer it will be |
| 09:29.23 | Sentri | and I could see it from here |
| 09:29.40 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, but the people wit hthe software could |
| 09:29.40 | haste | install a wirelesss sender and some way to measure water in it Sentri ! |
| 09:29.50 | Sentri | ~yeah maybe I should |
| 09:29.58 | haste | I have a coffe machine within reach ! |
| 09:29.59 | Sentri | ok where did the ~come from |
| 09:30.00 | Thunder_Child | besides, whats wrong with a dynamic bar |
| 09:30.04 | Shirik | huh? |
| 09:30.04 | haste | is a coffee addict |
| 09:30.20 | Sentri | is a coffee addict too |
| 09:30.44 | haste | is enjoying some coffee and chocolate. |
| 09:30.58 | Shirik | coffee is EVILLLLLLLLl |
| 09:31.05 | Thunder_Child | agreed |
| 09:31.06 | Sentri | I was visiting Latvia and they had this kind of timer below their traffic lights |
| 09:31.08 | mikma | mmmm, evil |
| 09:31.09 | haste | go rest in a corner Shirik |
| 09:31.13 | mikma | nomnomnom |
| 09:31.14 | Shirik | EVIL |
| 09:31.23 | haste | says the JAVAMONGLER! |
| 09:31.27 | Sentri | like a lid display of seconds left until the light changes |
| 09:31.30 | Shirik | the what? o.o |
| 09:31.36 | haste | \:D/ |
| 09:31.41 | Sentri | pff java |
| 09:31.53 | Dagmar | Lordy |
| 09:31.57 | Shirik | For the record I hate Java. I thought this was fairly well known. |
| 09:32.04 | Sentri | Ruby ftw |
| 09:32.05 | Dagmar | THat new axe is gonna be a little overpowered in PvP ya think? |
| 09:32.13 | Shirik | Ruby is worse than Java |
| 09:32.26 | haste | I don't really agree Shirik |
| 09:32.31 | Sentri | it's cool if you need a small script to do something fast |
| 09:32.36 | haste | at least I can run Ruby without too much effort! |
| 09:32.38 | Thunder_Child | mmmm, axe of win |
| 09:32.49 | haste | but I don't like Ruby |
| 09:32.51 | Shirik | how do you figure that |
| 09:32.57 | haste | and for fast scripts I have bash and lua anyway |
| 09:33.36 | Sentri | I don't have any kind of lua installed on my computer, only in wow :P |
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| 09:33.58 | haste | man Sentri |
| 09:33.59 | Shirik | and I don't have ruby installed |
| 09:34.01 | Shirik | what's your point :) |
| 09:34.02 | haste | that's just bad |
| 09:34.12 | Sentri | it is bad |
| 09:34.14 | haste | 7 ~ % ruby 2009-12-01 10:32:16 haste pts/20 |
| 09:34.18 | haste | zsh: correct 'ruby' to '_ruby' [nyae]? |
| 09:34.19 | haste | :D |
| 09:34.26 | Sentri | it's because I just installed new system and I'm lazy |
| 09:34.27 | haste | also known as not installed |
| 09:34.39 | haste | installing lua is easy! just fetch luarocks and your set |
| 09:34.55 | Shirik | my system's not installed |
| 09:34.58 | Shirik | er |
| 09:34.59 | Shirik | not new |
| 09:35.03 | Shirik | and I still don't have ruby installed |
| 09:35.03 | haste | gj |
| 09:35.12 | Sentri | shame on you |
| 09:35.15 | Shirik | here's a thought: Ruby is ungodly slow |
| 09:35.23 | haste | which is why you use Lua! |
| 09:35.31 | haste | since it's godly fast |
| 09:35.36 | Shirik | I honestly think it is the only truly interpreted modern language |
| 09:35.36 | haste | especially if you use lua-jit |
| 09:35.40 | Sentri | I dont care if it takes 0.2ms or 5ms to run my script for my homeworks |
| 09:35.43 | Shirik | Why the fuck they interpret it is beyond me |
| 09:36.03 | Sentri | is installing Lua |
| 09:36.10 | haste | ruby is getting some really nasty performance boosts with each release tho' |
| 09:36.22 | Dagmar | Except it's syntax is still madness |
| 09:36.24 | Shirik | shoutout seems to disagree |
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| 09:36.34 | jnwhiteh | well its not hard to make "slow as shit" faster =) |
| 09:36.39 | Dagmar | True! |
| 09:36.43 | haste | I indeed |
| 09:36.51 | Sentri | BUT Why's poignant guide to ruby is awesome |
| 09:37.01 | haste | wat |
| 09:37.13 | Shirik | Here's a thought |
| 09:37.19 | Sentri | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why%27s_%28poignant%29_Guide_to_Ruby |
| 09:37.23 | haste | the next major languag will be D anyway! |
| 09:37.28 | Shirik | Make Ruby use a real mechaism for execution |
| 09:37.42 | haste | as soon as walter gets his finger out of his ass and finishes the D2 spec |
| 09:37.52 | haste | and tango solves their licensing shit |
| 09:38.00 | Shirik | Next major language will be E |
| 09:38.13 | haste | and someone writes a compiler that doesn't require a mouthful of PITA to install |
| 09:38.25 | Shirik | gcc doesn't have a D compiler? |
| 09:38.36 | Dagmar | Nah. It'll be +C++*%^ |
| 09:38.46 | haste | Shirik: it's shit :P |
| 09:38.48 | mikma | Thank you for signing up to give us early feedback on Google Wave. We're happy to give you access to Google Wave and are enlisting your help to improve the product. |
| 09:38.51 | mikma | whee |
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| 09:38.53 | haste | the llvm front-end is much better |
| 09:39.12 | haste | but it doesn't compile against llvm trunk atm |
| 09:39.14 | Shirik | mikma.... |
| 09:39.18 | Shirik | I could have given you access like |
| 09:39.19 | Dagmar | ...and of course there'll be the inevitable i18n-ified C mainly used by asians which will be called XxCxX |
| 09:39.21 | Shirik | 2 weeks ago |
| 09:39.23 | Shirik | why don't you ask |
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| 09:39.32 | Shirik | Rofl @ XxCxX |
| 09:39.40 | haste | I even asked in dongle if anyone wanted an invite |
| 09:39.59 | Sentri | emm |
| 09:40.13 | haste | I don't have any faith in C++0x |
| 09:40.20 | Sentri | have I been living in a cave if I don't know what Google Wave is? |
| 09:40.26 | haste | y |
| 09:40.32 | Sentri | okay |
| 09:40.35 | Dagmar | Probably a basement without DSL at the very least |
| 09:40.36 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itc4253kjhw |
| 09:40.38 | haste | enjoy Sentri |
| 09:41.59 | Sentri | oo |
| 09:42.03 | Sentri | looks nice |
| 09:42.16 | olafski | nice, abridged |
| 09:42.36 | haste | you miss some information in it |
| 09:42.46 | haste | but at least you dont' have to spend 1h on watching them wait for clapping |
| 09:43.32 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/30/funny-pictures-kitteh-rule-7/ |
| 09:43.57 | Shirik | haste: Why? |
| 09:44.00 | Shirik | C++0x is awesome |
| 09:44.05 | Shirik | it could have been better |
| 09:44.11 | Shirik | but it still adds some much-needed features |
| 09:44.21 | olafski | 10 minutes really is enough information about wave for me |
| 09:44.30 | olafski | I'm at 2.5 minutes now and haven't seen anything I like yet :P |
| 09:44.33 | mikma | shirik: i wasnt in a hurry to get one =) hence why i waited |
| 09:44.39 | haste | Shirik: it doesn't manage memory for me! |
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| 09:44.44 | Shirik | ... |
| 09:44.55 | Shirik | IT'S NOT A LANGUAGE FOR SHITTY PROGRAMMERS |
| 09:44.55 | Dagmar | Yeah, I'm thinking Wave is kinda a niche product |
| 09:45.17 | Shirik | However C++0x adds the necessary capabilities for GCs without actually adding a GC |
| 09:45.18 | mikma | will most likely be completely useless for me anyway |
| 09:45.24 | Dagmar | If you'd asked me ten years ago what I'd say about an IRC client you can inline pictures with I'd have called you a lunatic |
| 09:45.28 | Shirik | and besides, you always have boost::auto_ptr... |
| 09:45.36 | haste | boost :( |
| 09:45.38 | Dagmar | My response to the idea has not changed. |
| 09:45.49 | haste | compiling boost is like... 45min? on a i7 |
| 09:45.59 | olafski | dagmar: exactly :P |
| 09:46.16 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting for someone for 4chan to get an invite |
| 09:46.18 | haste | regardless Shirik ! |
| 09:46.18 | olafski | dagmar: whoa, people can join later and see what has been said? almost like an irc channel :D |
| 09:46.30 | Shirik | fine, don't use boost |
| 09:46.31 | haste | computers are more then good enough these days to handle memory for us |
| 09:46.34 | Shirik | writing reference counting is easy |
| 09:46.36 | Shirik | NO |
| 09:46.38 | Shirik | don't say that shit |
| 09:46.41 | Dagmar | olasfski: For those of us what use screen, it's _exactly_ like an IRC channel |
| 09:46.44 | Shirik | Maybe a desktop computer |
| 09:46.44 | haste | without taking any major performance hit |
| 09:46.48 | Shirik | No |
| 09:46.50 | Shirik | you are full of shit |
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| 09:46.54 | haste | no I'm not! |
| 09:46.55 | Dagmar | ...but with a higher risk of exposed lower intestines on the screen. |
| 09:46.58 | Shirik | Yes you are |
| 09:47.02 | olafski | dagmar: exactly :P |
| 09:47.16 | olafski | haste++ |
| 09:47.22 | Shirik | I am sick of people assuming desktop environments somehow rule the world and there is no place for C++ because we have "enough memory" and "enough CPU time" |
| 09:47.30 | olafski | manual memory management boring |
| 09:47.44 | Shirik | Last I checked, there are more embedded systems than desktop computers |
| 09:47.48 | Shirik | And that will always be true |
| 09:47.50 | haste | I'm not assuming that even |
| 09:48.19 | Shirik | Not to mention a GC will completely destroy a realtime system |
| 09:48.20 | haste | you aren't under so heavy memory restraints that a GC will fail |
| 09:48.23 | olafski | 6 minutes in, still nothing interesting :P |
| 09:48.32 | Shirik | Oh, and then let's not forget that the government simply won't let you use a GC |
| 09:48.41 | haste | that's the US |
| 09:48.43 | haste | hi! |
| 09:48.47 | Shirik | And then there's the FAA that restricts you to C, C++, and Ada |
| 09:49.03 | Shirik | News flash: They have a reason for these restrictions |
| 09:49.16 | Shirik | It's because you cannot guarantee any kind of safety when you don't know what your program's going to do |
| 09:49.22 | olafski | they hate progress? |
| 09:49.24 | Shirik | No |
| 09:49.26 | haste | well there's your oslution Shirik |
| 09:49.32 | haste | use Ada for the goverment projects |
| 09:49.33 | Shirik | Because they actually know what RMA is |
| 09:49.39 | Shirik | No |
| 09:50.02 | haste | I honestly have more faith in Ada taking over the world than C++0x :P |
| 09:50.10 | Shirik | ANY safety-critical system CANNOT use something like C# |
| 09:50.11 | Shirik | period |
| 09:50.37 | haste | why are you comparing anything with C#, jsut because it has automatic memory management? |
| 09:50.37 | Shirik | I will give you 10 years to come up with a sane RMA for a program you write in C#. You still won't have an answer. |
| 09:50.43 | Shirik | C# or any other language like that |
| 09:50.47 | Shirik | it doesn't matter |
| 09:50.54 | Shirik | the problem is not the language, the problem is the concept |
| 09:51.40 | haste | the concpet an issue with most languages anyway |
| 09:52.01 | haste | we're like 10+ years behind what we should be doing on CPUs anyway these days |
| 09:52.01 | Shirik | That's because most programmers are lazy |
| 09:52.04 | Shirik | and I'm really getting sick of it |
| 09:52.15 | Shirik | "We have enough memory" is not a fucking excuse to go around wasting memory |
| 09:53.02 | Thunder_Child | wastes Shirik's memory |
| 09:53.13 | haste | yes, and manual memory management makes everyone not waste memory |
| 09:53.31 | Shirik | it does when you have intelligent people |
| 09:53.45 | Shirik | Here's a fun metric |
| 09:54.02 | Shirik | 74% of software projects fail. over 50% of those are because the project was managed poorly. |
| 09:54.23 | Shirik | Translation: Software fails because people are rushing through development because all they want is to produce the product, and not care about how it's created |
| 09:54.23 | haste | Bruners: |
| 09:54.25 | Shirik | that is WRONG |
| 09:54.49 | haste | yes, and it's all because of automatic memory management! |
| 09:55.10 | Shirik | no |
| 09:55.22 | Shirik | are you intentionally twisting my words or are you just ignorant? |
| 09:55.36 | Shirik | The problem is not limited to memory management |
| 09:55.47 | Shirik | the problem is software developers have become incredibly lazy and unwilling to actually do work |
| 09:55.59 | Shirik | Moreover, the quality of software developers has gone to hell |
| 09:56.31 | haste | Welcome to the world were Universities chrun out Java developers |
| 09:56.54 | Corrodias | fortunately, businesses neither want nor employ people for making GOOD software |
| 09:56.59 | Corrodias | :V |
| 09:57.43 | Shirik | and yet you seem to be advocating that, haste |
| 09:58.34 | haste | let's twist |
| 09:59.07 | haste | I'm saying that automatic memory management is possible and most low level languages that do provide it also allow you to handle it yourself |
| 09:59.15 | haste | there's parts where you want to do both |
| 09:59.35 | haste | but having to manage memory is still something we could go without in many cases |
| 10:00.24 | haste | but you also said that Ada was one of the languages allowed in the US goverment |
| 10:00.33 | haste | and doesn't it actually use automatic memory management? |
| 10:01.41 | Shirik | pretty sure it uses stack based memory management |
| 10:02.01 | Shirik | that is, same as a C++ "auto" variable |
| 10:02.12 | haste | hates the auto variable. |
| 10:02.43 | jadakren | does wow still prevent raid frame from being rendered when you re-connect during combat? |
| 10:02.43 | Shirik | ? |
| 10:02.46 | Shirik | I think you don't mean that |
| 10:02.54 | Shirik | considering 99% of variables in C++ are auto |
| 10:04.10 | haste | Hi, I don't write too much C++ |
| 10:04.46 | Shirik | an auto variable is one that was allocated on the stack when it was declared, and freed when it leaves scope |
| 10:04.48 | Wobin | Let me also clarify, Shirik |
| 10:04.58 | Wobin | It is -not- that software developers have become lazy and unwilling to do work |
| 10:05.20 | Wobin | it's that the realities of real world business practices prevent software developers from doing their best |
| 10:05.34 | jadakren | not only that |
| 10:05.47 | jadakren | most eduicational institutions re-inforce the quick methods |
| 10:05.55 | Wobin | Because, really? Thank you for insulting my work ethic, mr I'm working for a uni |
| 10:06.01 | haste | java churns! |
| 10:06.40 | haste | I still think your viewing it from your side only Shirik :P |
| 10:07.35 | Wobin | Eh, he will become disillusioned and realise reality, once he leaves the ivory tower =P |
| 10:07.37 | haste | If I want to write something that performce excellent I use C, while if I want to write a general app where performance isn't critical but the actual _use_ of the app is I choose a language where I don't have to spend some of my dev time managing the memory |
| 10:07.43 | Wobin | People don't pay you to write perfect software |
| 10:07.51 | Wobin | because people cannot afford perfect software |
| 10:07.58 | haste | because the computer can already do that for me and it will most likely do a better job than me in the long run |
| 10:10.42 | Dagmar | I have to agree with haste |
| 10:10.44 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:10.45 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:10.48 | Fisker | damn |
| 10:10.52 | Fisker | want to slap Wobin as well |
| 10:10.59 | Fisker | consider yourself slapped Wobin |
| 10:11.02 | Wobin | out of fish error? |
| 10:11.25 | Fisker | Shirik is a jerk error |
| 10:11.35 | Dagmar | Writing your own memory manager code sucks ass in the WORST way, and even if you get it perfectly right what it 'adds' to your app makes you doubt your own sanity |
| 10:11.57 | Wobin | Dagmar, Gazing into the abyss? =P |
| 10:12.39 | Dagmar | I had to write memory management stuff on the C-128. It sucked. |
| 10:12.42 | Dagmar | </geezer> |
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| 10:13.19 | Wobin | heheh http://www.teefury.com/ |
| 10:16.44 | p3lim | Is there any software better than 7zip |
| 10:17.21 | Dagmar | For what? |
| 10:17.27 | Dagmar | Compressing files? |
| 10:17.45 | p3lim | compressing/decompressing |
| 10:17.50 | Sentri | I use winrar :P |
| 10:17.57 | p3lim | winrar aint free :/ |
| 10:17.59 | Dagmar | I'd have to say no. |
| 10:18.09 | Dagmar | It does every other format, too. |
| 10:18.17 | Shirik | (05:11:16) (Dagmar) Writing your own memory manager code sucks ass in the WORST way, and even if you get it perfectly right what it 'adds' to your app makes you doubt your own sanity |
| 10:18.17 | Sentri | true |
| 10:18.20 | p3lim | Know |
| 10:18.22 | Dagmar | It obsoletes rar and winzip both |
| 10:18.26 | p3lim | Only need zip and rar tho |
| 10:18.32 | Shirik | Perhaps for people that don't know what they're doing, or don't value what you gain from it |
| 10:18.46 | Shirik | There is no need to write a memory "manager" |
| 10:18.50 | Shirik | Follow RAII and you have no problems |
| 10:18.52 | p3lim | I don't even use winzip atm, using windows' unpacking feature (which sucks) |
| 10:19.08 | Dagmar | Dude, even a half-assed garbage collector can be used just as easily *without* all the hassle |
| 10:19.26 | Shirik | Uh no |
| 10:19.27 | Shirik | Again |
| 10:19.36 | Shirik | You all are thinking of the typical desktop application |
| 10:19.37 | Shirik | I am not |
| 10:19.43 | Shirik | And I am sick of everything being generalized to that |
| 10:19.59 | Dagmar | I'm talking about a typical "anything" |
| 10:20.02 | Shirik | No you aren't |
| 10:20.14 | Shirik | Because if you knew the first thing about embedded real-time systems you would know just how wrong you are |
| 10:20.23 | Shirik | I will assume you don't know anything about RMA and will leave it at that |
| 10:20.31 | Dagmar | I _don't_ have to worry about those things. |
| 10:20.35 | Shirik | I DO |
| 10:20.41 | Dagmar | That doesn't mean _everyone else has to_ |
| 10:20.43 | Shirik | And that is why I know that (05:19:40) (Dagmar) I'm talking about a typical "anything" |
| 10:20.46 | Shirik | is completely wrong |
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| 10:33.07 | Wobin | <Shirik> The problem is not limited to memory management |
| 10:33.08 | Wobin | <Shirik> the problem is software developers have become incredibly lazy and unwilling to actually do work |
| 10:33.08 | Wobin | <Shirik> Moreover, the quality of software developers has gone to hell |
| 10:35.17 | Wobin | I find that judgement incredibly high handed. |
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| 10:54.11 | haste | let's continue! |
| 10:54.45 | haste | the thing is really that automatic memory management _should_ be optional, but it should also integrate nicely with the language |
| 10:55.17 | olafski | bah, compromises |
| 10:55.26 | haste | using C + a GC lib is _horrible_ |
| 10:55.37 | haste | I'd might as well handle the memory myself in most cases then :P |
| 10:56.03 | haste | but that's really the fault of the C syntax itself |
| 11:07.33 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: drinking game based around attempts to pass climate change legislation in aussie parliament. certain key phrases -> drink |
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| 11:08.07 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: one guy jsut went ballistic saying every key phrase in about 5 mins, repeating each of them a good 10 times (I kid not), then got a chance to speak again 20mins later and pretty much did same |
| 11:09.26 | Corrodias | australian government instructs earth to "cut it out" |
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| 12:15.29 | Wobin | http://www.gunn.co.nz/astrotour/ |
| 12:15.33 | Wobin | is kinda cool to watch |
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| 12:44.33 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/4_3_2_1_yo_dawg.jpg |
| 12:45.47 | zenzio | for some reason that's lol |
| 12:56.14 | amro | no recursion, that failed |
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| 13:10.59 | haste | anyone know the hg equaliant to git show? |
| 13:11.18 | Wobin | what's git show do? |
| 13:12.02 | haste | show the latest commit with diff |
| 13:12.15 | Wobin | I only use tortoisehg =( |
| 13:12.34 | haste | I don't have windows you insensitive clod! |
| 13:12.58 | Wobin | I don't run command line you insensitive assgoblin |
| 13:13.21 | Wobin | That was a banned word from a site we're working on at work =) |
| 13:15.03 | Kalroth | tortoise or assgoblin? |
| 13:17.09 | Wobin | assgoblin |
| 13:20.05 | Kalroth | "Ass Goblin: noun; a small (or medium if you like)gremlin-like creature who lives in your ass and comes out every half moon to eat crackers, sometimes watching tv and hogging the remote. See: Fisker." |
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| 13:23.08 | Adys | hey Kalroth |
| 13:23.16 | Kalroth | hey Adys baby |
| 13:23.29 | Adys | whenever you write your password on irc, others can only see its sha256sum |
| 13:23.31 | Adys | look: f52fbd32b2b3b86ff88ef6c490628285f482af15ddcb29541f94bcf526a3f6c7 |
| 13:23.48 | Kalroth | omg, I have to test it |
| 13:24.03 | Adys | it's easy, just write your password. it also works in PMs. |
| 13:24.27 | Wobin | hm a335a7f67e2ffb0cbf075e488cd27187484a88bc62134f2110f0cbd9908b6070 |
| 13:24.30 | Wobin | zomg |
| 13:24.37 | Adys | it works! |
| 13:24.41 | Wobin | it's -awesome- |
| 13:24.46 | Adys | and useless |
| 13:25.23 | Kalroth | my password is 4867ccab1c36f33dec005e83eef8dfb6d3b166941a72400aa3c963675c2a7dae |
| 13:25.27 | Kalroth | wow |
| 13:25.29 | mikma | adysisadick1 |
| 13:25.31 | mikma | wow! |
| 13:25.33 | cbreak | 8+fTIMoZ0OXm5DTASa |
| 13:25.42 | cbreak | strange. didn't work. :) |
| 13:26.04 | Adys | that's because it's a retarded password |
| 13:26.14 | Kalroth | Personally I find rot13 safer than sha256 |
| 13:26.29 | Adys | [14:26:24] -NickServ- Invalid password for cbreak. |
| 13:26.30 | Adys | fuck |
| 13:26.32 | Adys | here goes my hope :( |
| 13:26.35 | zenzio | what if my password is already a SHA512 sum? |
| 13:26.52 | Adys | well nothing then since i said sha256 |
| 13:27.40 | Kalroth | Adys: Voulez-vous cuillère avec moi? |
| 13:27.56 | zenzio | you want me to run sha256sum on my SHA512 sum? |
| 13:28.02 | Adys | adys@tishes:~$ echo "4867ccab1c36f33dec005e83eef8dfb6d3b166941a72400aa3c963675c2a7dae" | sha512sum | sha256sum |
| 13:28.02 | Adys | 17061039b7a0c4b245e4467b2d529b8e818bc1cb686fd5b0f6546227bcc99c9b - |
| 13:28.15 | Kalroth | yo dawg |
| 13:28.47 | Adys | I can't hear you over the sound of how 9bd84ce82ad7bc5868bd647ee50d392926318022d61ad5f26d39e6fc44853d77 I am |
| 13:30.01 | Adys | so anyway Kalroth, they say it's not an encryption |
| 13:30.04 | Adys | but I think it is! |
| 13:30.16 | Adys | I implemented it on xmpp |
| 13:30.54 | Adys | I send sha512 sums when I talk, and they try to sum whatever I might have said until they figure it out |
| 13:31.12 | Kalroth | I put my 256 bit checksum in your 512 bit checksum so we can check the sum of sums |
| 13:31.37 | Adys | you needed 3 minutes to write that? |
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| 13:31.59 | Adys | its not even that good |
| 13:32.01 | Kalroth | I actually wanted to write it in French, but the translastor didn't like checksum |
| 13:32.04 | Adys | try something like |
| 13:32.25 | Adys | I sum sum sum with my sum so we can sum sum sums while you sum sums |
| 13:32.33 | Kalroth | J'ai mis mon checksum 256 bit dans votre check 512 bits somme pour résumer le résumé de votre chèque! |
| 13:32.44 | Adys | cheque lol |
| 13:33.22 | Adys | wait wtf |
| 13:33.33 | Adys | how does 256 bit checksum translate differently to 512 bit checksum? |
| 13:33.41 | Kalroth | I don't know |
| 13:33.46 | Adys | apart from the number. |
| 13:33.56 | Kalroth | http://translate.google.com/#en|fr|I%20put%20my%20256%20bit%20check-sum%20in%20your%20512%20bit%20check-sum |
| 13:34.53 | Adys | i like their new translate widget |
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| 14:03.12 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:03.26 | Fisker | Kalroth believes he can stop me |
| 14:07.51 | Kalroth | *teehee* |
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| 14:32.48 | Lopeppeppy | If... my icon is no longer a dinosaur... can I still rawr? |
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| 14:33.26 | zenzio | of course you can |
| 14:33.30 | Wobin | are you not an iron drake? |
| 14:33.35 | Wobin | do you not RAAAAAAWR? |
| 14:33.49 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, is that what I am? An iron drake? |
| 14:33.54 | zenzio | otherwise there'd be an uprawr |
| 14:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | For serious! |
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| 14:39.38 | Lopeppeppy | Kind of hard to buy an iron drake figurine for my friends for christmas though. |
| 14:40.21 | Wobin | buy them a companion cube! |
| 14:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | And thow it in the fire? |
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| 14:52.55 | Fisker | buys Wobin a companion cube with a hole in it |
| 14:54.42 | Adys | hugs Shirik |
| 14:55.20 | Fisker | licks Shirik |
| 15:00.36 | Kalroth | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7DezFSxkZQ |
| 15:00.54 | Fisker | licks Kalroth |
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| 15:19.36 | mitch0 | anyone happen to have contacts at google groups? :) |
| 15:20.22 | Adys | mitch0: what do you mean and why? |
| 15:20.34 | mitch0 | need a "mass" invite approved |
| 15:20.49 | mitch0 | (22 addresses, so not really "mass") |
| 15:21.17 | mitch0 | trying to set up a group for the parents of our kid's class |
| 15:22.59 | olafski | lopeppeppy: are you still here? :P |
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| 15:25.07 | Ackis | i hate people |
| 15:25.17 | olafski | who doesn't |
| 15:25.38 | Ackis | Seerah prolly doesn't... she always seems happy and perky. |
| 15:25.57 | Seerah | not always... though I try to keep the facade ;) |
| 15:26.19 | Ackis | you do a superb job Seerah |
| 15:26.31 | Ackis | me on the other hand wears his heart on his sleeve :D |
| 15:26.32 | Seerah | why thank you, thank you very much |
| 15:26.46 | Seerah | what happens if I punch you in the arm? |
| 15:27.03 | Ackis | I bleed |
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| 15:27.22 | Seerah | :( |
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| 15:31.51 | Ackis | http://www.twitvid.com/0BF1F <-- can that be seen by anyone? |
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| 15:33.04 | haste | Ackis: I don't see anything, just hear |
| 15:33.19 | Ackis | ok so it's a codec issue or something then |
| 15:34.04 | Kalroth | it works for me |
| 15:34.15 | Ackis | ty |
| 15:34.25 | Ackis | Kaelten had just said there were issues with it yesterday |
| 15:34.32 | Kalroth | poor dog |
| 15:34.41 | Ackis | ? |
| 15:34.57 | Ackis | he just spent about 20 minutes running around trying to beat up the cats :P |
| 15:35.05 | Kalroth | haha |
| 15:35.07 | Kaelten | it works fine for me today too |
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| 15:35.37 | Ackis | oh you're on IRC Kaelten |
| 15:35.42 | Ackis | I can't talk bad about you then :( |
| 15:35.49 | Kalroth | he's always stalking |
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| 15:52.38 | Ackis | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtMGVX2Pl4 someone on Forza 3 racing against someone IRL lol pretty neat |
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| 15:55.12 | olafski | hah cool |
| 15:55.32 | olafski | psh they should have used bigger screens |
| 15:55.36 | olafski | and closer together |
| 15:57.42 | jadakren | Ackis: I just noticed at the end of the twitter video you posted that the traffic is bumper to bumper... |
| 15:58.18 | Ackis | I do a lot of videos while driving ;) |
| 15:58.49 | Ackis | is that the one where he's howling? |
| 16:01.11 | olafski | ackis: nice vid, but the real car was on a wet track |
| 16:01.18 | olafski | and I think he used driving assists in forza ;p |
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| 16:25.49 | cog|away | HAI |
| 16:25.57 | cog|work | SRY CAPS!!!111 |
| 16:26.23 | zenzelezz | YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP SON, I CAN'T HEAR YOU |
| 16:26.26 | Ackis | poops on cog|work |
| 16:28.52 | Ackis | I ran out of pitstick today so I used the gf's... my pits smell like I want to nom them now |
| 16:30.50 | mikma | woo, Captured Firefly |
| 16:31.24 | Legorol | ackis: that is aswesome |
| 16:31.41 | zenzelezz | Ackis: what does your girlfriend think of your newfound fetish for pits? |
| 16:32.06 | cog|work | Ackis: raspberry? |
| 16:32.41 | Ackis | I had no pit fetish! :P |
| 16:32.49 | Ackis | it smells nommy, I don't know, it's not raspberry |
| 16:32.54 | Legorol | oops, i was talking about the forza vs. real thing, not the pitstick :) |
| 16:33.07 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:33.11 | cog|work | what? your arm pits smell like potstickers? |
| 16:33.19 | Ackis | ohhh that would be wicked |
| 16:33.32 | cog|work | patents |
| 16:34.04 | cog|work | Treat others as you would be treated yourself? I'll bite... If I'm going 10+ mph below the speed limit on a clear, dry day with no one in front of me, you have my permission to tailgate, flash your lights, point out speed limit signs, and otherwise be a nuisance until I realize what a douche I am. Just make sure your speedometer is accurate, otherwise you're in for a surprise break check. </Rant> |
| 16:35.31 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4VGQ47qj_0 rawr you hear me laughing like a docuhe |
| 16:36.15 | cog|work | Ackis: roller coasters make me laugh like a douche |
| 16:36.31 | cog|work | they really are loller coasters for me |
| 16:36.33 | Ackis | I scream :( |
| 16:36.45 | Ackis | at blizzcon 2 years ago we went to universal studios |
| 16:36.54 | Ackis | they have a jurassic park shit your pants ride |
| 16:37.00 | Ackis | where you go down like a 5000 foot drop |
| 16:37.19 | Ackis | I found out I can scream at a very high octave |
| 16:37.36 | Ackis | plus the picture they took was a gooder |
| 16:38.28 | cog|work | http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/thrillrides/supremescream/supreme.shtml |
| 16:39.53 | Ackis | yeah I'd kill myself before doing that |
| 16:40.09 | cog|work | http://www.flickr.com/photos/63448044@N00/438022791 |
| 16:40.16 | cog|work | is fun =) |
| 16:40.31 | Ackis | ... |
| 16:42.10 | Ackis | you're strange |
| 16:42.16 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:42.20 | Ackis | the tower thing at sea world was almost too fast for me |
| 16:42.22 | Ackis | ilu Fisker |
| 16:42.27 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:42.42 | Ackis | ilu Fisker |
| 16:42.44 | Fisker | why won't you die? |
| 16:42.51 | Ackis | you haven't killed me yet |
| 16:43.03 | Fisker | come on let me hear you say it |
| 16:43.27 | Ackis | say what? |
| 16:43.37 | Fisker | come on let me hear you say it |
| 16:43.46 | Ackis | say what? |
| 16:44.20 | Fisker | i said "come on let me hear you say it" Ackis |
| 16:44.27 | Fisker | and i'm going to rage |
| 16:44.38 | Ackis | you always rage |
| 16:44.43 | Fisker | say what again |
| 16:44.46 | Fisker | say what one more itme |
| 16:44.49 | Fisker | time* |
| 16:44.56 | Fisker | etc. |
| 16:45.07 | Ackis | what |
| 16:45.11 | Ackis | i said it |
| 16:46.51 | Fisker | die Ackis |
| 16:47.07 | Ackis | die/ |
| 16:47.09 | Ackis | why/ |
| 16:47.17 | Ackis | my shift key broken/ |
| 16:47.20 | Ackis | hmm |
| 16:47.22 | Ackis | it might be |
| 16:47.39 | Ackis | i should shift over to the other one eh/ |
| 16:47.44 | Ackis | lol see what I did there/ |
| 16:47.51 | Adys | fucking spammers |
| 16:48.07 | Ackis | ilu Adys |
| 16:48.11 | Ackis | and Fisker |
| 16:53.21 | cog|work | poor cairenn got a time out. what'd she do this time? |
| 16:53.57 | zenzelezz | she took too long |
| 16:53.59 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Cairenn |
| 16:54.05 | Seerah | She didn't eat her vegetables |
| 16:54.35 | Lopeppeppy | do iron drakes eat vegetables? |
| 16:54.36 | Lopeppeppy | I'm this whole new species now, i know nothing about me? |
| 16:54.49 | Seerah | new species? |
| 16:56.43 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife |
| 16:57.08 | zenzelezz | you killed Mankrik's! |
| 16:57.43 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah, they updated the avatar for MVPs on the forum, we're now apparently iron drakes. We look like grey worms about to throw up hairballs. |
| 16:58.13 | zenzelezz | nonsense |
| 16:58.21 | zenzelezz | you're more likely to throw up chunks of ore |
| 16:58.41 | Seerah | whoa |
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| 16:59.23 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: I'm not sure if I like that avvie |
| 16:59.49 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:00.10 | Lopeppeppy | I hate it with a passion, Seerah. I'm a worm upchucking. |
| 17:00.25 | Seerah | ... it looks... fearsome? I guess |
| 17:00.31 | Lopeppeppy | looks like it has the flu |
| 17:00.36 | Seerah | but really, what's more fearsome than a devilsaur? :p |
| 17:01.12 | zenzelezz | a devilsaur with PMS |
| 17:01.27 | Lopeppeppy | is me! |
| 17:02.23 | Ackis | lol zenzelezz |
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| 17:04.13 | nevcairiel | i hunt devilsaurs for their leather, not much to fear imho |
| 17:04.26 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:04.41 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: they couldnt very well use kittens yknow ;) |
| 17:04.43 | cog|work | Hai Unkle Lunessa! |
| 17:05.17 | Lopeppeppy | heya, Lunessa. |
| 17:05.21 | Lunessa | o hai! I upgraded ur rams. |
| 17:05.24 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I'd rather not look like I'm vomiting. |
| 17:05.36 | Ackis | resign as a green! :P |
| 17:05.51 | Cide | cog|work: looks like a giant penis |
| 17:06.29 | Lunessa | Bye-bye Gears - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_dumps_gears_for_html5.php |
| 17:06.41 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: could be snapping at something and missing, or maybe their being probed :p |
| 17:07.27 | Lopeppeppy | Vomiting. |
| 17:07.30 | Fisker | old Lunessa |
| 17:07.35 | Fisker | oooooooooooooool |
| 17:07.35 | Fisker | d |
| 17:07.52 | Lunessa | I love how a story from yesterday is "Old" |
| 17:07.56 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: :/ |
| 17:08.21 | Fisker | a story from today is old |
| 17:09.38 | Cide | good |
| 17:10.08 | Cide | html5 needs all the support it can get for cross-browser compliance |
| 17:10.12 | Kraps | there is nothing new under the sun |
| 17:10.31 | Lunessa | shoots Fisker with Poison Dart Frog poisoned darts. |
| 17:11.10 | Fisker | np |
| 17:12.00 | Lunessa | Cide: /agree |
| 17:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | Top story in my local paper? Skidmore doing layoffs in February. I have ulcers now. Gonna go get some lunch. |
| 17:12.34 | Kraps | who? |
| 17:14.02 | Fisker | my brain hurt |
| 17:14.03 | Fisker | s |
| 17:14.16 | Ackis | what brain? |
| 17:14.18 | Lunessa | OMG - Pug pet is totally evil. |
| 17:16.10 | Kraps | Lunessa: yeah thats how i feel about pitbull types in general |
| 17:17.16 | cog|work | crosses fingers & toes for Lopeppeppy |
| 17:19.10 | Kraps | does she work there or something? |
| 17:21.42 | Fisker | i'm questing Kraps |
| 17:22.46 | Kraps | where? |
| 17:22.57 | Fisker | argent tournament of course |
| 17:23.39 | cog|work | Kraps: yes |
| 17:24.23 | Adys | Lunessa: I have to agree with Fisker, OLD |
| 17:24.33 | Kraps | :( |
| 17:24.52 | Cide | Adys: kinda like your mom last time I saw her |
| 17:25.02 | Adys | u kut |
| 17:26.12 | Kraps | Fisker: i'm working |
| 17:27.11 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:27.14 | Fisker | and i'm slapping |
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| 17:29.04 | NeoTron | notes that Cairenn did not know his birthday. ;-) |
| 17:30.26 | Kraps | Gibbs slaps Fisker |
| 17:30.34 | zenzelezz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:33.39 | Lunessa | cog|work: Where's the Jolt cola can? |
| 17:34.04 | NeoTron | zenzelezz: could be. but last that was discussed she seemed sneaky. so I still count it as a win |
| 17:34.25 | NeoTron | Lunessa: so fricking hard to find Jolt Cola in a normal retail store |
| 17:34.56 | Lunessa | I suppose I'm the only one who remembers their mid-80s "Men from Jolt" commercials. |
| 17:35.15 | NeoTron | I didn't know of or taste jolt until the 90s |
| 17:35.21 | NeoTron | Sweden and all |
| 17:36.04 | Cide | Lunessa: I was almost born then |
| 17:36.25 | nevcairiel | mid 80s? i was born then! |
| 17:36.41 | cog|work | Lunessa: at teh store!! onoes... i better take it off their hands |
| 17:37.07 | Lunessa | "Granrly Cola dudes! I'm refreshed!" |
| 17:38.13 | Lunessa | Oh my, possible snow on Friday. Around here, that's rare. |
| 17:38.28 | nevcairiel | snow? whats that you speak of? |
| 17:38.38 | NeoTron | there was some mentions of possible snow in the WA area I think |
| 17:38.57 | nevcairiel | we didnt really have snow for the past few years |
| 17:39.12 | nevcairiel | short of a slight white in the morning which was gone an hour later |
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| 17:43.36 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 17:45.19 | Kraps | Lunessa: wheres around here for you? |
| 17:45.44 | Lunessa | Kraps: Texas Gulf Coast. 4th largest city in the nation. Houston. |
| 17:46.17 | Kraps | snow huh? interesting |
| 17:47.27 | Lunessa | A significant chance. Unusual here. |
| 17:56.13 | Ackis | mass effect for $5 http://www.direct2drive.com/holiday/ |
| 17:57.10 | durcyn | too bad it's direct2drive |
| 17:57.21 | Ackis | truth |
| 18:00.10 | Ackis | btw my arm pits still smell nommy |
| 18:00.25 | Kraps | ok? |
| 18:01.30 | Ackis | I ran out of pit stick today Kraps so I had to use the gf's |
| 18:01.34 | Ackis | I smell pretty |
| 18:02.55 | Kraps | haha nice |
| 18:03.27 | Lunessa | ... Secret, Strong enough for a man, but makes you feel like a woman? |
| 18:03.48 | Ackis | my wiener is named Secret. :D |
| 18:04.17 | Lunessa | Ackis: WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION |
| 18:04.37 | Ackis | Lunessa: strong enough for a man, made for a woman :D |
| 18:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. okay. Ackis? You are never allowed to say anything else. ever. |
| 18:06.11 | Ackis | lmao |
| 18:06.16 | Ackis | that was a good joke damnit :P |
| 18:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | we'll send the surgeons round promptly to sew your mouth shut. |
| 18:06.33 | NightHawkTheSane | and cut off your hands. |
| 18:06.35 | Ackis | never! |
| 18:07.49 | Lunessa | And sew shut any other orifice you may use for the intake of nutrition, the expelling of waste, or the receipt of pleasure. |
| 18:08.20 | Ackis | what happens if expelling waste == pleasure? |
| 18:08.33 | Lunessa | I covered all the bases, just to be sure. |
| 18:09.40 | Ackis | what's hot topic? |
| 18:09.49 | Ackis | store in the US? |
| 18:10.04 | theorbtwo | Ackis: Yes. |
| 18:10.08 | NightHawkTheSane | s/store/plague of hipster & flavor of the month trash/ |
| 18:10.21 | NightHawkTheSane | but yes. it's a chain |
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| 18:10.39 | theorbtwo | They cater to the sort of person who thinks themselves countercultural, but still shops at the mall. |
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| 18:11.49 | Ackis | you americans have neat things |
| 18:12.14 | NightHawkTheSane | although, these days, it's 90% twilight crap, and 10% people cashing in on so-called geek-chic |
| 18:12.29 | Ackis | they have a murloc t-shirt |
| 18:12.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ like i said |
| 18:12.55 | KarlKFI|work | they stock some decent t-shirts |
| 18:13.12 | Ackis | it's a dudes murloc t-shirt :( |
| 18:13.33 | KarlKFI|work | i enjoy wearing preppy clothes and walking into a hot topic |
| 18:14.25 | KarlKFI|work | i think it's more uncomfortable for everyone else |
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| 18:20.51 | Lunessa | Hot Topic is full of "You don't get it, asshole, so it's COOL" stuff. |
| 18:21.08 | Lopeppeppy | You... went in one? |
| 18:21.12 | Lopeppeppy | gives Lunessa CPR |
| 18:21.23 | Lunessa | And people who would, by virtue of their appearance, have difficulty finding work elsewhere. |
| 18:21.50 | Lunessa | I don't hate it, but they'll never have anything that would fit me. I don't do coke or heroin. |
| 18:22.34 | Lopeppeppy | Someone in the grocery store asked me to marry him. |
| 18:23.15 | Ackis | did you say yes? |
| 18:23.36 | Lopeppeppy | No, he was quite skeevy |
| 18:24.40 | Lunessa | Aww, but it was an offer. Silver Lining Peppy. |
| 18:27.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, practice saying no is valuable |
| 18:30.55 | Thunder_Child | no Lopeppeppy, no |
| 18:31.35 | Lopeppeppy | No! |
| 18:33.00 | Lopeppeppy | Did it worked? |
| 18:33.08 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 18:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | Damn |
| 18:35.48 | Thunder_Child | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50260/ephemeral-snowflake/ that seems silly low for anyone that is not a druid.... |
| 18:36.03 | Thunder_Child | seems low for a druid too tbh |
| 18:36.37 | Lunessa | 11 mana? |
| 18:36.45 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 18:37.00 | Lunessa | That trinket = Abyss Crystal Every. Time. |
| 18:37.10 | Lopeppeppy | Does that count for each tick of a hot? |
| 18:37.16 | Thunder_Child | i assume so |
| 18:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it has some interest for a boomer maybe? who tosses a hot now and then? |
| 18:37.56 | Thunder_Child | if it was 111 i could maybe see it, but 11? |
| 18:38.03 | Thunder_Child | thats nothing amongst 25K mana |
| 18:38.05 | Lopeppeppy | yeah, 11 is tragically low. |
| 18:38.15 | Lopeppeppy | perhaps there is a database error |
| 18:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | is that a new item in 3.3? |
| 18:38.25 | Thunder_Child | Bibi-'s faukt as usual |
| 18:38.27 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 18:38.31 | Thunder_Child | fault* |
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| 18:38.37 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: IMO blame Adys |
| 18:38.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it could just be an actual data error with the item :P |
| 18:38.46 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, why? |
| 18:38.53 | ZorbaBeta | 11 is the equivalent of maybe 55mp5 at most, if you're hasted to the point that your gcd is 1 second. seems dubious to me as well. |
| 18:38.55 | Lopeppeppy | ptrs are error-prone, yes |
| 18:39.23 | ZorbaBeta | maybe higher if it procs off hot ticks, but then it's just insane for druids and crappy for other classes |
| 18:39.49 | Vlakarados | who knows does cleave count as AOE damage? |
| 18:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i would have to imagine it's just a bug with the item. |
| 18:39.57 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: adys is more blameable |
| 18:40.04 | ZorbaBeta | (does Wild Growth become a mana-regenerating ability at that point?) |
| 18:40.30 | ZorbaBeta | vlakarados, for FC purposes? i believe any ability that is capable of hitting more than one target is considered AOE. |
| 18:40.39 | nevcairiel | any recommendations for good epic fantasy books, preferably a series? I'm nearly out of sword of truth books :( |
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| 18:40.52 | Thunder_Child | i doubt it ZorbaBeta, it's 23% base mana |
| 18:40.58 | Ackis | nevcairiel: the dragon age books seem decent |
| 18:41.10 | NightHawkTheSane | well, what is 23% of base mana for a druid these days? |
| 18:41.34 | Thunder_Child | 5-6K? |
| 18:41.43 | ZorbaBeta | base mana, not total mana |
| 18:41.52 | Thunder_Child | oh right |
| 18:41.56 | theorbtwo | nevcairiel: Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, by Tad Williams. |
| 18:42.04 | theorbtwo | (Trilogy in four books.) |
| 18:42.06 | Thunder_Child | damn good series |
| 18:42.08 | ZorbaBeta | seven ticks on six targets (assume it's glyphed) would give a hypothetical 462 mana return |
| 18:42.09 | Vlakarados | ZorbaBeta to know if pets would receive lower damage by boss cleaves |
| 18:42.30 | nevcairiel | trilogy in four? :D |
| 18:42.31 | nevcairiel | looks the books up |
| 18:42.31 | ZorbaBeta | 643 mana cost on my druid, though |
| 18:42.35 | ZorbaBeta | vlakarados, ah, that I don't know. |
| 18:42.48 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, the last book is so big it is split into part one and two |
| 18:42.56 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 18:43.21 | nevcairiel | I'll put that on my reading list, thanks :) |
| 18:43.46 | Thunder_Child | ok, so 23% of dru base mana is 804 |
| 18:44.02 | Ackis | nevcairiel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire also a great series, not finished yet |
| 18:44.23 | ZorbaBeta | I'm not sure exactly what mana modifiers I have, but on my druid Wild Growth is 643 mana. Still not mana-profitable though :( |
| 18:46.11 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, try the soldier son trilogy by robin hobb, as well as the farseer trilogy, the fool trilogy, and the liveship trilogy. |
| 18:46.19 | Thunder_Child | so decent for a druid, retardedly low for most other clases |
| 18:46.20 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 18:46.27 | Thunder_Child | classes* |
| 18:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | Also try... um... calderon series, forget who writes that... Jim Butcher! |
| 18:46.36 | nevcairiel | if i collect all those, that will get my through the next year, i'm sure =P |
| 18:47.21 | Lopeppeppy | They're not super-epic-high fantasy like Jordan and Goodkind, but they kick ass nevertheless in long strong story and world building. |
| 18:47.56 | Lopeppeppy | If you do hobb, read Farseer, Liveship, and then Fool series, in that order. I had a hard time reading Liveship first. Very bad. |
| 18:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh. |
| 18:48.11 | Thunder_Child | there is also The Chronicles of Prydain |
| 18:48.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i want to stab people who buy into SEO voodoo |
| 18:49.04 | NightHawkTheSane | like my coworker. "We need to figure out how expired pages will affect our rating" i'm like "take it out of the site map, give the user an intelligent error page, and call it good." "no man, that wont work." |
| 18:49.08 | NightHawkTheSane | stabs |
| 18:53.38 | ZorbaBeta | oy. invite from some random death knight. "whant to join my guild" |
| 18:53.51 | ZorbaBeta | no, you didn't spell "want" correctly, go the fuck away |
| 18:54.07 | ZorbaBeta | then he starts telling me that he's the gm so he can spell "whant" any way he wants. I don't think he understands language. |
| 18:55.34 | NightHawkTheSane | murders people |
| 18:56.49 | Lunessa | ZorbaBeta: I used to fill my ignore list with people displaying an appalling lack of fluency. Then I had to get an AddOn for a bigger ignore list. Eventually things got /really/ quiet. |
| 18:57.41 | theorbtwo | Lunessa: They are making core ignore lists bigger in 3.3. |
| 18:57.50 | Thunder_Child | not big enough |
| 18:57.57 | ZorbaBeta | every once in a while I'm tempted to do the same, but I have too much fun teasing people in /2 |
| 18:58.11 | ZorbaBeta | at this point I actually have a fan club. it's kind of awesome. |
| 18:58.27 | zenzelezz | I think I've had at most five people on my ignore list. Only one was permanent; the rogue who left us in Sunken Temple to go to AV |
| 18:58.34 | Thunder_Child | isnt that akin to wining the special olympics? |
| 18:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | My ex and his girlfriend and all their alts kind of filled mine on one server... |
| 18:58.45 | Lunessa | My final solution was to stuff all the "public" channels off into their own frame and only look when I needed something. |
| 18:59.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ this is what i do |
| 18:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | ^ very yes |
| 19:01.22 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: thats funny to me for some reason |
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| 19:02.39 | Lopeppeppy | Bite me, Kraps. :P |
| 19:03.20 | Lunessa | imagines Lopeppeppy saying "very yes" often. |
| 19:03.39 | Kraps | maybe you need to get a restraining order from you local faction leader :p |
| 19:04.09 | Lopeppeppy | imagines Lunessa drooling. :) |
| 19:04.17 | Lopeppeppy | I just don't play on that server much, Kraps. |
| 19:04.32 | zenzelezz | * Lunessa imagines Lopeppeppy saying "very yes" often. <--- she's not that easy |
| 19:04.45 | Ackis | lol the crazy chic who took a golf club to a guys xbox just had her bf take a golf club to her laptop: http://www.newsletter-network.com/2009/12/xbox-smashing-crazy-girl-revenge.html |
| 19:04.54 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I can be quite charming and convincing. |
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| 19:04.59 | Ackis | Lunessa: bullshit |
| 19:05.13 | Lunessa | Ackis: You're afraid it's true. |
| 19:05.56 | cog|work | http://blog.cogwheel.info/2009/12/to-wow-programming-im-sorry.html |
| 19:06.01 | NightHawkTheSane | makes some popcorn and watches the soap opera. |
| 19:08.31 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Cogwheel. |
| 19:09.16 | NightHawkTheSane | shares the popcorn with cog|work |
| 19:10.11 | Cide | I'm sorry you quit too cog|work, but given your position and circumstances I believe you made the right decision, so /hug |
| 19:10.24 | Cide | ^ only /hug anyone will ever see from me, probably. |
| 19:10.42 | cog|work | ith thepthial |
| 19:10.42 | zenzelezz | for a moment there I thought Cide had been hacked |
| 19:10.57 | Ackis | cide always hugs me with his mouth |
| 19:10.58 | Cide | who says I haven't been? |
| 19:11.17 | Lopeppeppy | stalkers the cogwheel on twitter! |
| 19:11.50 | Ackis | http://twitpic.com/rqfto |
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| 19:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | morning, alestane |
| 19:12.08 | alestane | Somewhere. |
| 19:12.19 | cog|work | over the rainbow? |
| 19:12.32 | Seerah | pats cog|work |
| 19:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | alestane. |
| 19:13.21 | Lopeppeppy | we are not dinosaurs anymore. |
| 19:13.24 | Lopeppeppy | We are worms! |
| 19:13.35 | alestane | No, we is strange dragons now. |
| 19:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | vomiting worms! |
| 19:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | I do hear that we are "iron drakes" |
| 19:13.56 | Lopeppeppy | Is true? |
| 19:15.02 | alestane | They look rather like the protodrakes from Northrend, yes, with a fel potency glowing in their mouths. |
| 19:15.15 | Lopeppeppy | Iron drake. |
| 19:15.17 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* |
| 19:15.22 | Lopeppeppy | I can't buy those as presents. |
| 19:17.24 | alestane | No, is harder. |
| 19:17.40 | Lopeppeppy | *sniff* |
| 19:17.45 | alestane | Is cool-looking on the forums, but doesn't have quite the same cachet as dinos *sigh* |
| 19:19.01 | Lopeppeppy | I don't like. It looks like it has a hairball! :P |
| 19:20.42 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 19:21.05 | NightHawkTheSane | how, in any universe, is it better to show content that's no longer valid than to tell the user "this content is expired, maybe you should search for something new!" |
| 19:21.30 | Lopeppeppy | It's not, your co-worker is a doofus. |
| 19:21.37 | Lopeppeppy | Here, we tend to expire pages and re-direct them to somewhere else. |
| 19:21.51 | NightHawkTheSane | he is |
| 19:22.11 | zenzelezz | redirects Lopeppeppy |
| 19:22.14 | NightHawkTheSane | he's a fucking idiot who buys into SEO voodoo and magic, and pretends like there's secret API calls to google you can embed in your site |
| 19:23.06 | Lopeppeppy | I dealt with those sheeple today too. |
| 19:23.15 | NightHawkTheSane | apparently, a custom 404 handler that tells robots the page doesn't exist, and tells users that "this job has expired, sorry." is WORSE, than displaying the job data as if it were valid, with a little note somewhere saying it's expired. |
| 19:23.28 | NightHawkTheSane | grumbles. |
| 19:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | They also failed to upgrade their browsers as directed. They had fecking IE6 and Firefox 1.5. Awesome. |
| 19:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple are dumb. |
| 19:24.26 | alestane | That is, um, seriously out of date. |
| 19:24.54 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers, they both are. |
| 19:24.56 | alestane | My campus is almost done upgrading to IE7. |
| 19:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | Ours upgraded to 7 last academic year. They have not connected this laptop to the campus network since then. They use it only at home. |
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| 19:26.10 | Lopeppeppy | Should still have gotten update requests, but what-ev-er... not my problem. So they couldn't follow along in class, poor sheeple who didn't follow directions and take their toys for upgrades. |
| 19:26.49 | alestane | Student sheeple, faculty sheeple or administrative sheeple? |
| 19:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | administrative sheeples |
| 19:28.16 | Lopeppeppy | but... all they had to do was turn on their computer and ask IT to do the work. Like... 3 minutes to put in a help ticket |
| 19:28.20 | Lopeppeppy | Idjits |
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| 19:43.40 | bleeter | baa |
| 19:43.53 | cog|work | bleets at bleeter |
| 19:44.14 | bleeter | yip yip yip ahuh |
| 19:44.43 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snark* |
| 19:44.54 | bleeter | pours caffeine down cog|work's throat |
| 19:45.00 | cog|work | guzzles |
| 19:45.13 | bleeter | mmmm coff eee mmmm ahuh coff eee yip yip ahuh coffeee mmmm |
| 19:46.34 | Kraps | wut |
| 19:46.40 | Lopeppeppy | bleeter, are you a muppet? |
| 19:48.36 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: Without meaning any malice or ill, I've found over the years that we're all muppets, to varying degrees. It's all a matter of whether you're in a suit, or have someone hand jammed up yer arse |
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| 19:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, but i don't sound as much like one, I think you're further down the devolutionary chain. |
| 19:52.28 | Kraps | 's "malice and ill" detector blows a fuse |
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| 19:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | I am innocent of all but malice |
| 19:56.24 | olafski | lopeppeppy: the cake is delicious ;) |
| 19:56.36 | Shirik | I hate my school |
| 19:56.42 | Shirik | Subject: CAMPUS WIDE EMERGENCY EMAIL |
| 19:56.53 | Shirik | ATTENTION -REPAIR WORK IN PROGRESS ON WATER LINE BREAK!! |
| 19:57.00 | Shirik | Why the fuck is that sent along the emergency system |
| 19:57.23 | nevcairiel | to let you know that you wont have water pressure in the toilet, maybe? :P |
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| 19:59.23 | Lopeppeppy | To let you know why your water is brown? |
| 19:59.29 | Lopeppeppy | Not to drink it? |
| 19:59.33 | Shadowed | Don't worry, mine can't even spell facebook |
| 19:59.33 | Shadowed | "be sure to read the November issue, with Facbeook and MySpace" |
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| 19:59.43 | Lopeppeppy | olafski, I'm glad to hear it turned out well! |
| 20:00.01 | Shadowed | also apparently a prize changed from $1000 to $100 in the span of 5 sentences |
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| 20:05.01 | Shirik | Shadowed, but that's not being sent on the code red system |
| 20:05.06 | Shirik | that's just your normal spam |
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| 20:06.06 | Thunder_Child | your school has a 'code red system'? was it build by mountian dew? |
| 20:06.09 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:06.19 | Thunder_Child | built* |
| 20:06.21 | Shadowed | If it's built by mountain dew it probably tastes terrible |
| 20:06.37 | Shirik | CodeRED-this is a reverse 911 system that allows participants to receive emergency information and instructions via their phone and email. To participate, students and employees must opt into the system by clicking on the CodeRED icon on the ERNIE homepage and provide their phone number and email address. |
| 20:07.00 | Thunder_Child | yup, def a mountian dew system |
| 20:07.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ours is called SUN. |
| 20:08.15 | Thunder_Child | so it's a java system? |
| 20:08.50 | Cide | I hate java |
| 20:09.08 | krka | I love java! |
| 20:09.09 | Lopeppeppy | S. Urgent Notification System -- SUNS. It's an acronym, not a platform. |
| 20:09.16 | Cide | no operator overloading is stupid |
| 20:09.27 | Thunder_Child | it was a joke Lopeppeppy, sun microsystems makes java |
| 20:09.34 | krka | Would be cuter with B. Urgent Notification System |
| 20:09.41 | Shirik | S. Urgent? |
| 20:09.42 | Shirik | What's the S? |
| 20:09.47 | krka | no, operator overloading is stupid |
| 20:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | My school. |
| 20:09.48 | Cide | Super. |
| 20:09.50 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:09.54 | Lopeppeppy | Stupdendous! |
| 20:09.57 | Lopeppeppy | Stupid. Sheeple. |
| 20:09.59 | Cide | krka: icwatudiddere |
| 20:10.06 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy goes to super school |
| 20:10.14 | Cide | a.equals(b) and a.subtract(b) are weird |
| 20:10.29 | Cide | and annoying to type |
| 20:10.30 | Shirik | better than (- a b) |
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| 20:10.36 | Cide | hardly |
| 20:10.43 | Shirik | fine then Cide |
| 20:10.46 | Shirik | you figure this out |
| 20:10.48 | Cide | and lisp does operator overloading doesn't it |
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| 20:11.42 | krka | how often do you write number crunching code though? |
| 20:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | weee.. wireless ssid fail: the wirless network at work uses the router's default ssid. someone at my apt complex has the same router.. also leaving it with the default ssid. >< hilarity ensues |
| 20:11.54 | Cide | krka: number crunching code? |
| 20:12.07 | krka | like stuff that uses BigInteger or similar |
| 20:12.14 | Cide | I don't |
| 20:12.16 | Cide | I'm implementing a mathematical vector class |
| 20:12.21 | krka | where you'd actually have a use for operator overloading |
| 20:12.27 | krka | and you do that often? |
| 20:12.29 | Cide | vector addition, subtraction, scaling, etc |
| 20:12.34 | Cide | second time in a year! |
| 20:12.43 | Cide | the other time was in python |
| 20:13.01 | ccox | image processing, video processing, audio processing - it's all number crunching |
| 20:13.04 | krka | if all you do is implement vector classes, then i see your problem |
| 20:13.10 | krka | (but your problem is not java :P) |
| 20:13.17 | Cide | lol |
| 20:13.22 | Cide | anyway, it's useful for more than that |
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| 20:13.50 | Cide | the normal operators are useful for lots of objects |
| 20:14.04 | Shirik | here Cide |
| 20:14.04 | Cide | and a.add(b) is hardly more explicit than a+b |
| 20:14.06 | Shirik | this is what I worked on last night |
| 20:14.10 | Shirik | I highlighted my favorite lines |
| 20:14.11 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/129675 |
| 20:14.44 | ccox | and you may use operator overloading even for pointer math, common UI code, etc. |
| 20:14.50 | Cide | and if you argue that "you don't know if it's a primitive type then!" then you need a better ide or whatever |
| 20:15.21 | Shirik | However, I think my favorite part of these theorems |
| 20:15.24 | Shirik | is that I ran out of keywords |
| 20:15.38 | Shirik | I had to write: (cadadr (cdr (projectile_intersects origin vec surfaces))) |
| 20:15.44 | Cide | Shirik: ouch |
| 20:15.44 | krka | i like 62-65 |
| 20:15.46 | Shirik | Instead of (cadaddr (projectile_intersects origin vec surfaces)) |
| 20:16.11 | Shirik | krka: That part hurt my head |
| 20:16.15 | Shirik | That's why the comments are there |
| 20:16.18 | ccox | (Readable (Less_than (Perl Lisp))) |
| 20:16.30 | Shirik | btw, Cide |
| 20:16.35 | krka | caddadadadaadaaadaadr |
| 20:16.39 | Shirik | This code produced approximately 30 million lines of mathematical proofs |
| 20:16.49 | Cide | haha, nice |
| 20:17.00 | Shirik | And one of the theorems wasn't even proven |
| 20:17.02 | Shirik | it just ran out of memory |
| 20:17.21 | Shirik | It was a fun project though |
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| 20:19.28 | cbreak | I tried to learn PostScript a bit. |
| 20:19.51 | cbreak | very weird language for someone used to imperative |
| 20:20.11 | Shirik | uh |
| 20:20.15 | Shirik | are you supposed to write that by hand? |
| 20:20.17 | ccox | PostScript is just Forth with graphics operators |
| 20:20.34 | Shirik | I thought that was intended for automatic generation |
| 20:20.42 | ccox | if you can do assembly on a stack based system, then Forth and PostScript are easy |
| 20:20.46 | cbreak | there are some cool PS programs |
| 20:20.58 | ccox | Shirik: nope, lots of cool PS programs written by hand |
| 20:21.00 | cbreak | PSTBarcode is the reason I looked at it |
| 20:21.01 | Cide | there are some cool * programs, doesn't mean that * is useful to know :P |
| 20:21.11 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 20:21.14 | Shirik | I must have lagged out |
| 20:21.21 | Shirik | unless Cide types at about 400 words per minute |
| 20:21.30 | Cide | I do, last time I checked |
| 20:21.35 | Shirik | lua> 14 * 30 |
| 20:21.37 | ccox | and someone has to create the template PS code for applications |
| 20:21.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: 420 |
| 20:21.41 | Shirik | 420 words per minute |
| 20:21.55 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:21.59 | Shirik | he was responding to cbreak |
| 20:22.00 | Shirik | ok you fail |
| 20:22.10 | Cide | what are you even talking about |
| 20:22.19 | Shirik | I saw ccox's statement and then yours |
| 20:22.24 | Shirik | and it looked like you replied in 2 second |
| 20:22.34 | ccox | ah, ok |
| 20:22.42 | Shirik | (15:20:38) (ccox) Shirik: nope, lots of cool PS programs written by hand |
| 20:22.42 | Shirik | (15:20:40) (+Cide) there are some cool * programs, doesn't mean that * is useful to know :P |
| 20:22.56 | Cide | that was what I was replying to |
| 20:23.14 | Thunder_Child | hmm..your seconds are off Shirik |
| 20:23.42 | Shirik | and then I disconnected |
| 20:24.35 | Cide | the centroid of a triangle with vertices (0, 0), (5, 5), (10, 0)? |
| 20:24.36 | Cide | go |
| 20:24.49 | Cide | nvm |
| 20:24.54 | cbreak | define centroid |
| 20:25.07 | Cide | the center of mass given that the triangle is of uniform density |
| 20:25.22 | Cide | it's just the "average of the vertices" in that case, I was just lazy |
| 20:25.24 | cbreak | but it's probably on the line (5,5)(5,0) |
| 20:25.35 | Cide | by symmetry, obviously :P |
| 20:25.37 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:25.43 | Shirik | what are you talking about |
| 20:25.46 | Shirik | I must have missed it :( |
| 20:25.49 | Cide | yes |
| 20:25.58 | Shirik | stupid log doesn't kick in until I'm confirmed disconnected |
| 20:25.59 | cbreak | I am sure you can calculate it with an integral :) |
| 20:26.00 | Cide | you appear to be running on low performance |
| 20:26.14 | Cide | ya but I'm lazy |
| 20:26.21 | Cide | pretty sure it's just the average |
| 20:26.50 | Shirik | average of all vertices? no |
| 20:26.56 | Shirik | there's a name for the point though |
| 20:27.03 | Shirik | and there's an easy way to calculate it |
| 20:27.04 | cbreak | averagepoint! |
| 20:27.06 | Shirik | no |
| 20:27.09 | Shirik | it has some other meaning |
| 20:27.21 | Cide | ya, it's in my book |
| 20:27.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:27.45 | Shirik | it's called the centroid |
| 20:27.45 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:27.57 | Cide | oh really? |
| 20:28.03 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:28.10 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centroid |
| 20:28.13 | Cide | that was irony |
| 20:28.20 | Cide | Coordinates of the centroid of a triangle |
| 20:28.33 | Cide | The coordinates of the centroid of a triangle are the averages of the corresponding coordinates of the three vertices of the triangle |
| 20:28.41 | Shirik | oh I guess it is the average |
| 20:28.43 | Shirik | you win |
| 20:28.44 | Cide | oh, what is that I hear? |
| 20:28.56 | Shirik | that's not how I was taught it :) |
| 20:29.06 | Shirik | I was taught it's the intersection of all of the lines extending from the vertex to the opposite midpoint |
| 20:29.17 | Cide | it is |
| 20:29.24 | Cide | the two are equivalent |
| 20:29.27 | Shirik | right |
| 20:29.41 | cbreak | you sure? |
| 20:29.43 | Cide | anyway |
| 20:29.45 | Cide | yes |
| 20:29.48 | Cide | I have my book right here |
| 20:30.08 | Cide | anyway, I think it applies to polygons in general if they are of uniform density? |
| 20:30.13 | cbreak | oh! right, it's not equivalent with the half-angle line intersection |
| 20:30.14 | Cide | given that they have finitely many points |
| 20:30.16 | cbreak | what ever that is |
| 20:31.08 | cbreak | I don't think it can apply to polygons |
| 20:31.11 | cbreak | at least not if you allow holes |
| 20:31.19 | Cide | why not? |
| 20:31.24 | Shirik | Cide, it must be |
| 20:31.30 | Shirik | since every polygon is a combination of triangles |
| 20:31.39 | Cide | yep |
| 20:32.02 | Shirik | I could write this proof in ACL2! |
| 20:32.16 | Shirik | but no ty, I need to finish my presentation |
| 20:33.14 | Cide | grr |
| 20:33.23 | Cide | java is screwing up my unit test because of rounding issues |
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| 20:33.50 | Shirik | owned |
| 20:33.56 | Shirik | This is why ACL2 does not allow floating point numbers! |
| 20:34.08 | Shirik | Notice that I used 49/10 for the gravity, lol |
| 20:34.16 | Cide | 4.9? |
| 20:34.16 | krka | Cide: JUnit comes with assertEqual(expected, actual, epsilon) |
| 20:34.21 | Shirik | no |
| 20:34.22 | Shirik | 49/10 |
| 20:34.23 | Cide | oh, that's cool |
| 20:34.27 | Cide | thanks krka |
| 20:34.42 | Cide | Shirik: but gravity is ~9.81m/s^2 |
| 20:34.43 | Shirik | ACL2 uses "rational numbers" which are comprised of a numerator and denominator, both integers |
| 20:34.52 | Shirik | therefore you never lose precision |
| 20:34.59 | Cide | ya, I get that |
| 20:35.08 | Shirik | it's also incredibly annoying |
| 20:35.15 | Shirik | writing functions like sin is a bitch |
| 20:35.18 | Cide | but your number is wrong if it's expressed in m/s^2! |
| 20:35.25 | Shirik | it's ot |
| 20:35.27 | Shirik | not* |
| 20:35.39 | Cide | weird imperal units? |
| 20:35.44 | Shirik | x(t) = 4.9t^2 + vit + xi |
| 20:36.01 | Cide | oh |
| 20:36.03 | Shirik | double integral of constant acceleration 9.8 |
| 20:36.03 | Cide | at^2/2 |
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| 20:36.14 | Cide | ya |
| 20:36.19 | Shirik | (1/2)at^2 |
| 20:36.27 | Cide | yep |
| 20:37.14 | Shirik | I promise I've done so much proving on these formulas they have to be right, lol |
| 20:38.08 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sleeeeepy |
| 20:38.41 | Shirik | Slepeppeppy |
| 20:39.43 | Lunessa | What's this, Shirik trying to hypnotize Lopeppeppy? Dude, seriously? |
| 20:39.47 | Cide | krka: can't find it |
| 20:40.05 | Thunder_Child | unpossible Lunessa |
| 20:40.30 | Thunder_Child | that would make Shirik a hypocrite |
| 20:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not very nymphotyzable, Lunessa |
| 20:41.10 | Cide | oh, I'm stupid |
| 20:41.14 | Lopeppeppy | JrM3!str |
| 20:41.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oops, need a new schedule! |
| 20:41.36 | Lunessa | ... Lopeppeppy care to put that to the test. *wink* |
| 20:42.56 | Lunessa | I had spicy food for lunch. |
| 20:43.06 | KarlKFI|work | ooo spicy food |
| 20:43.10 | KarlKFI|work | i should have some of that |
| 20:43.31 | KarlKFI|work | someone cooked a buritto in the office today >.< |
| 20:43.38 | KarlKFI|work | made me super hungry |
| 20:43.49 | KarlKFI|work | normally i can go till like 3 or 4 without food |
| 20:44.05 | Lunessa | KarlKFI|work: Del Taco. Just down the street from you. |
| 20:44.19 | KarlKFI|work | meh, that's not spicy food |
| 20:44.27 | KarlKFI|work | that's just hot sauce. |
| 20:44.45 | KarlKFI|work | was thinking maybe pew Wei for a bowl o flaming noodles |
| 20:45.16 | KarlKFI|work | plus they have the nifty new Coke "Everything" drink dispensers. |
| 20:45.38 | Shirik | a hypocrite, Thunder_Child? |
| 20:45.41 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:46.05 | Lunessa | Pei Wei is good too. |
| 20:46.19 | KarlKFI|work | http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/zachary-wilson/and-how/coca-cola-gives-ten-times-choices-freestyle |
| 20:46.21 | KarlKFI|work | they're fun |
| 20:46.24 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I almost failed my Sensation and Perception class in grad school because I couldn't see all the illusions he was showing us, and he didn't believe me.... very fail. I just don't see things the way other people do, and so hypnotism doesn't work right. |
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| 20:47.58 | KarlKFI|work | no one can train your eyes for you. |
| 20:48.07 | Lopeppeppy | only you can prevent forest fires |
| 20:48.17 | alestane | However, not all hypnosis is optical. |
| 20:48.18 | Thunder_Child | well it was sleep related Shirik |
| 20:49.30 | Lopeppeppy | some is auditory, true. |
| 20:49.38 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: only a small percentage of the population is hypnosis prone. |
| 20:50.44 | cog|work | i.e. the people who believe it will work to begin with ;) |
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| 20:51.14 | KarlKFI|work | suggestive people |
| 20:51.26 | Lopeppeppy | I have a very closed mind. Psych degree and all. Big "no trespassing" sign. |
| 20:51.55 | Lunessa | Hypnosis can also be accomplished via repetitive physical motion/contact like massage. |
| 20:52.27 | KarlKFI|work | relaxation into a suggestive state |
| 20:52.28 | Lopeppeppy | Very possibly true, works for snakes. |
| 20:52.53 | KarlKFI|work | all your passwords are belong to us |
| 20:53.26 | Lunessa | ... all ... passwords ... are ... belong ... to ... Karl. |
| 20:53.49 | cbreak | up to 5% of mankind can not see stereo |
| 20:54.01 | KarlKFI|work | the one eye'd ones? |
| 20:54.05 | krka | repetitive physical motion you say? seems like a lot of people would be experts in hypnosis then |
| 20:54.17 | KarlKFI|work | this is why i train my fingers to type in passwords... so i can forget them and still have access. |
| 20:54.22 | cbreak | some have only one eye, some have neural problems or something else that prevents fusion |
| 20:55.31 | Lunessa | krka: Self-Hypnosis. *snark* |
| 20:55.51 | KarlKFI|work | i can convince myself i need things i don't. is that hypnosis? |
| 20:55.55 | Kraps | my boss just told me hes friends with the woman who plays dr cuddy on house :o |
| 20:56.09 | KarlKFI|work | dr cuddly? |
| 20:56.32 | Kraps | lisa cuddy, house's boss |
| 20:56.41 | KarlKFI|work | she's not so cuddly |
| 20:56.52 | durcyn | don't lie, you'd do her |
| 20:57.02 | KarlKFI|work | too old for me. |
| 20:57.03 | Lunessa | She is hot in a cougar-sort of way. |
| 20:57.17 | KarlKFI|work | now that other chick dr on house's team... |
| 20:57.20 | Lunessa | Oh wait... she's in my target age demographic. |
| 20:57.47 | Kraps | shes always got some cleavage thing going |
| 20:57.57 | KarlKFI|work | true. i do like me some boobs |
| 20:58.07 | KarlKFI|work | FOOD |
| 20:58.12 | KarlKFI|work | poofs |
| 20:58.36 | Thunder_Child | ^ disturbing |
| 20:58.48 | Kraps | ^ what i was thinking |
| 20:59.03 | KarlKFI|work | NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM |
| 20:59.04 | Lopeppeppy | .... Karl, I find your random connections disturbing. |
| 20:59.09 | Lopeppeppy | bad monkey |
| 21:03.28 | Lunessa | Do you have a flag? No flag, no country. |
| 21:05.47 | mikma | so so priceless: Driving a dumper and listening to Prodigy - Diesel Power |
| 21:06.10 | NightHawkTheSane | has had the same song stuck in his head all morning |
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| 21:07.18 | NightHawkTheSane | fortunately, it's an awesome song. still annoying though. |
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| 21:08.10 | cog|work | huggles Cairenn |
| 21:08.15 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Cairenn. |
| 21:08.25 | cog|work | shoos Shirik |
| 21:08.29 | Cairenn | waves |
| 21:08.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:08.35 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: suited the moment pretty damn perfectly =D |
| 21:08.37 | Lunessa | o hai Cairenn. |
| 21:09.04 | mikma | i giggled inside and tried to drive between cones |
| 21:09.33 | Shirik | (16:07:55) (Lunessa) [16:03:28] Do you have a flag? No flag, no country. |
| 21:09.36 | NightHawkTheSane | needs to ban his coworker from namin things |
| 21:09.36 | Shirik | isn't that from some movie? |
| 21:09.45 | Shirik | like a monty python thing |
| 21:09.47 | NightHawkTheSane | "categorator" "postjobber" >< seriously folks. |
| 21:09.57 | Lunessa | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYeFcSq7Mxg |
| 21:10.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: eddie izzard, iirc |
| 21:10.15 | Shirik | that's it |
| 21:10.17 | NightHawkTheSane | who, granted, has very python-esque humor |
| 21:10.57 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: cateigorizinatorizer |
| 21:11.48 | NightHawkTheSane | also, ugh, wts him class constants and static methods |
| 21:12.30 | Shirik | my laptop does not like solidworks |
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| 21:17.30 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8 |
| 21:18.11 | mikma | oh man.... |
| 21:18.13 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/12/what_took_so_long_a_countdown.php |
| 21:20.22 | Shirik | anyone here know how to use solidworks? I can't figure out how to export a part view to an image |
| 21:20.27 | Lopeppeppy | Brother Christian loves me, he fixed my calendar right up! |
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| 21:24.08 | Kraps | Brother? |
| 21:24.37 | Lopeppeppy | The IT guy. I think I went to a "Golden Child" thing. |
| 21:24.48 | Lunessa | If Night Ranger had been a girl band? "Brother Christian oh you time has come.... " |
| 21:25.25 | Lopeppeppy | "All is well, Brother Numsi has forgiven me!" ... "All is well, Brother Christian has fixed me!" Apparently I hadn't used my calendar in over 6 months. Wow. |
| 21:26.08 | Kraps | k idk what you guys are saying |
| 21:26.17 | Kraps | but thats ok |
| 21:26.39 | Lopeppeppy | ... wow. |
| 21:27.12 | Lunessa | Kraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1FeEezee4s - Sister Christian by Night Ranger |
| 21:27.38 | NightHawkTheSane | how come yesterday fedex attempts to deliver my package at 12:10 am, and fails because i'm not there... but today still hasn't come by? seriously |
| 21:27.45 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck fedex, ups, usps, dhl, whatever. |
| 21:27.57 | durcyn | yeah, fuck 'em! |
| 21:28.17 | cog|work | they came to your house 10 minutes after midnight??!! fuck them is right! |
| 21:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I need to start hiring like horseback couriers or someshit. i'd probably get stuff delivered faster and on time. |
| 21:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: bah. :p i meant pm. :) |
| 21:28.59 | cog|work | Q4 |
| 21:29.02 | cog|work | err... |
| 21:29.05 | cog|work | :3 |
| 21:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
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| 21:32.15 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/11/what_if_famous_superheroes_had.php |
| 21:33.01 | Fisker | piece of piss mikma |
| 21:33.04 | Fisker | btw we already got that |
| 21:33.05 | Fisker | l2p |
| 21:33.13 | mikma | like you, piss |
| 21:33.25 | mikma | suits you sir, uh, suits you |
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| 21:39.24 | Fisker | we are technologically superior mikma |
| 21:40.19 | mikma | ah hahahahaha, thats hilarious |
| 21:42.39 | Fisker | well you linked something we've had for millenia |
| 21:43.44 | mikma | i disagree. my links are always fresh. |
| 21:43.47 | cog|work | lolol the add google served me on that page was for laser hair removal |
| 21:44.09 | cog|work | that'll teach them superheroes! pewpew! |
| 21:45.05 | Fisker | i disagree because i'm superior mikma |
| 21:46.04 | zenzelezz | I didn't know Google had adds |
| 21:46.41 | mikma | fisker: s/superior/troll/ |
| 21:46.48 | Fisker | whelps spawned zenzelezz |
| 21:47.10 | Fisker | s/s/superior/troll//s/superior/a troll/ |
| 21:47.11 | zenzelezz | who stood by Google's tail!? |
| 21:47.23 | Fisker | so i'm still superior |
| 21:47.33 | mikma | also a troll. |
| 21:47.38 | zenzelezz | Fisker is clearly a superior troll |
| 21:47.45 | mikma | yeap |
| 21:48.14 | mikma | i usually dont even bother reading his texts more that two words |
| 21:51.23 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/01/square-iphone-payment-system-gets-itself-a-website-showcased-in/ <-facepalm |
| 21:51.24 | Fisker | or should i say FAILPALM?! |
| 21:51.24 | Fisker | hoho |
| 21:57.24 | cog|work | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/facepalm.jpg |
| 21:58.58 | Fisker | what the shit is that? |
| 21:58.59 | Fisker | nokia? |
| 21:59.16 | cog|work | ... |
| 21:59.17 | cog|work | palm |
| 21:59.21 | Fisker | :o |
| 21:59.21 | cog|work | DUH |
| 21:59.39 | Fisker | palm doesn't really have a market in europe |
| 21:59.39 | Stanzilla | Fisker: lol ... |
| 21:59.41 | Fisker | or denmark atleast |
| 21:59.48 | cog|work | or anywhere |
| 21:59.50 | cog|work | really |
| 21:59.53 | Fisker | oh snap! |
| 22:00.01 | cog|work | is an ex-fanboi |
| 22:00.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Vilkkuu (n=Vilkku@dsl-tkubrasgw1-ffc7c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 22:02.44 | Fisker | cog|work don't die :( |
| 22:02.57 | cog|work | otay pankee |
| 22:04.02 | Fisker | why doesn't this rogue want to do chillmaw? :( |
| 22:04.29 | cog|work | genital warts? |
| 22:06.43 | NightHawkTheSane | remember back when palm owned the "pda" market? |
| 22:07.01 | cog|work | yes. I had an m100 then a sony clie then a tungsten t5 then a centro |
| 22:16.22 | alestane | Cairenn: There's a Cairen on my server right now. |
| 22:16.31 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:17.03 | Lunessa | Need Cairenn on Kirin Tor in <Grounding Totem> |
| 22:17.24 | Cairenn | Cairenn is already on Kirin Tor, but won't be in Grounding Totem, sorry |
| 22:17.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:19.25 | Lunessa | :( |
| 22:19.31 | cog|work | ^ |
| 22:19.48 | Lunessa | You made a toon with that name on lots of servers? |
| 22:22.44 | Fisker | i'll be in your grounding totem |
| 22:22.45 | Fisker | hoho |
| 22:23.07 | cog|work | we already has a grounding totem! |
| 22:24.00 | Lunessa | I R Chief Totem. |
| 22:24.31 | Fisker | poor alliance |
| 22:24.47 | Fisker | they must be using minutes to find a name including my name and a derogatory comment for their harassment alts |
| 22:25.34 | Fisker | even fiskersmom is taken :o |
| 22:27.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Artio (n=_@port-11781.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 22:27.17 | cog|work | Fisker: i know, rite? |
| 22:29.44 | Fisker | :o |
| 22:31.09 | *** join/#wowuidev _Dotted (i=Dotted@83.97.101.42) |
| 22:32.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-40-12.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 22:32.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 22:33.02 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 22:33.08 | Lopeppeppy | I have returned! |
| 22:33.20 | *** join/#wowuidev mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 22:33.36 | Shirik | I noticed ! |
| 22:33.47 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:33.49 | Fisker | i slapped you |
| 22:33.56 | Shirik | I did not notice ! |
| 22:33.58 | Shirik | it was too weak |
| 22:36.24 | Fisker | bah |
| 22:36.25 | Fisker | i was like |
| 22:36.30 | Fisker | "Gonna get something to drink" |
| 22:36.41 | Fisker | But before i got back i had already drunk it :( |
| 22:36.48 | NeoTron | Cairenn: "< NeoTron> bet my birthday is unknown <@Cairenn> NeoTron: wanna bet?" <- I should have! |
| 22:38.01 | Cairenn | sorry, yesterday was crazy - Happy Birthday a day late |
| 22:39.13 | NeoTron | hey no problem, I enjoyed the little game |
| 22:39.22 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:39.38 | NeoTron | and no I didn't save that in particular. I log everything... for some reason |
| 22:40.02 | Cairenn | ~logs |
| 22:40.03 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 22:40.14 | Cairenn | so does everyone in here ;) |
| 22:40.19 | NeoTron | well yeah |
| 22:40.30 | NeoTron | but I have irc logs from 1903 through 2036! |
| 22:40.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | Enjoy 'em,, says I. |
| 22:40.57 | NeoTron | and no I have no clue why irssi thinks those are appropriate years. Guessing the clock's been out of whack when running in vmware |
| 22:41.27 | NeoTron | but I do have 6400 channeldays worth of data |
| 22:42.27 | WobWork | http://mylifeistwilight.com/ |
| 22:42.30 | WobWork | holy crap =( |
| 22:44.00 | NeoTron | WobWork: ... |
| 22:44.46 | NeoTron | http://www.mylifeistwilight.com/view/School/274 that's kind of scary |
| 22:45.27 | Lopeppeppy | That site is covered in pathetic. |
| 22:46.43 | WobWork | NeoTron: that last comment was... |
| 22:46.51 | Lopeppeppy | awesome |
| 22:46.55 | WobWork | yes |
| 22:49.16 | Lopeppeppy | ... pathetic. http://www.mylifeistwilight.com/view/My%20Life/352 |
| 22:49.34 | durcyn | i'm not going to read that. |
| 22:49.38 | durcyn | you can't make me. |
| 22:49.44 | Fisker | awesome |
| 22:51.13 | Fisker | goodnight durcyn |
| 22:51.22 | durcyn | sleep well Fisker |
| 22:51.35 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:52.08 | durcyn | in other news, chrome can bite my shiny metal ass for renaming war/jar files to .zip when downloading |
| 22:52.27 | Fisker | ;3? |
| 22:53.08 | cog|work | lolwut? is it adding .zip to the end of the filename or replacing the extension? |
| 22:53.37 | durcyn | adding it, which makes sense since they ARE zip archives, but having to rename them before deploying to tomcat is obnoxious |
| 22:53.37 | robotusch | :| |
| 22:53.44 | robotusch | sets a kitty loose on Fisker |
| 22:53.59 | Fisker | never seen it happen myself |
| 22:54.03 | cog|work | durcyn: maybe the server is sending zip as the mime type? |
| 22:54.13 | cog|work | and are you absolutely certain it's not that way on the server? |
| 22:54.18 | durcyn | observed on multiple servers |
| 22:54.24 | durcyn | URI ends in .war |
| 22:54.28 | cog|work | odd |
| 22:54.37 | cbreak | maybe it does InternetExplorer like content guessing |
| 22:56.10 | cog|work | uri doesn't necessarily match what they send down the pipe |
| 22:57.13 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 22:59.38 | Lunessa | MUST. INFLICT. ON. OTHERS. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI4JLa0hbUw Thank me later. |
| 23:00.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:00.20 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvoFnPLzZKM |
| 23:02.35 | cbreak | As bad as WoW patch days might be, those from EVE seem worse... |
| 23:05.07 | cog|work | http://jrm.cc/gallery/just-for-the-lulz |
| 23:05.26 | robotusch | wat |
| 23:06.13 | Fisker | sleeptiems robotusch |
| 23:06.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 23:06.22 | Fisker | injects robotusch with sleeping stuff n shit |
| 23:07.50 | robotusch | just have to finish up this torrent :< |
| 23:12.12 | cog|work | Lunessa: dunno why, but meh... |
| 23:12.42 | Lunessa | cog|work: *shrug* |
| 23:21.14 | NightHawkTheSane | murders fedex |
| 23:21.49 | NightHawkTheSane | "delivery attemped" my ass. no one came by, no one buzzed my apartment. your slack ass just didn't deliver it. |
| 23:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | Last time they threw my package on my front porch, which I have blocked off by Rosie's kennel and can't get to. I made the jerks come back and stand on their truck to get it back (second floor balcony porch). |
| 23:22.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Webuser401 (n=Webuser@79.117.105.173) |
| 23:22.58 | JGeorge | Hello |
| 23:23.23 | cog|work | hai |
| 23:24.09 | JGeorge | I'm struggling to find a method to determine when someone has joined my raid/party :( |
| 23:24.51 | JGeorge | IS there any easy solution, or checking CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM is the only solution? |
| 23:25.05 | Arrowmaster | !api RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 23:25.06 | lua_bot | RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE: Fires when the raid roster changes (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE) |
| 23:25.52 | JGeorge | Aye, but that suggests keeping a list of all players that are allready inside, and then comparing the actual list with the cached one everytime? |
| 23:26.06 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:26.39 | JGeorge | Would 2x string.find not be more efficient? |
| 23:26.51 | JGeorge | one for raid join and one for party join |
| 23:26.57 | JGeorge | And then two more for parts |
| 23:26.57 | Adys | Windows 7 Share Grows At XP's Expense |
| 23:27.05 | Adys | try to say that 10 times really quickly. |
| 23:27.47 | Arrowmaster | depends on your usage |
| 23:28.14 | JGeorge | I just want to whisper a message to the player that joins/leaves the raid |
| 23:28.25 | KarlKFI|work | you don't always get party/raid joins |
| 23:28.45 | KarlKFI|work | I remember there being something finicky about them |
| 23:28.52 | JGeorge | That seems to be the problem when the last player leaves |
| 23:29.04 | KarlKFI|work | that too |
| 23:29.07 | KarlKFI|work | might be range |
| 23:29.28 | KarlKFI|work | RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE is more reliable. |
| 23:29.36 | JGeorge | Well, thats why I'm using string.find on the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event |
| 23:30.02 | KarlKFI|work | not sure that's gonna be as reliable, but i dunno. |
| 23:30.16 | KarlKFI|work | someone who's done more raid addon work might be able to help |
| 23:30.35 | JGeorge | I've setup two patters for string. find, one for joining, one for leaving, but I've just discovered that string.find doesn't realy do regex >_> |
| 23:30.44 | JGeorge | "(.+) (joins the party|has joined the raid group)\." doesn't work |
| 23:31.16 | JGeorge | At all, string.find doesnt support the '|' it seems |
| 23:31.41 | foxlit | | has no special meaning in Lua patterns. |
| 23:31.45 | JGeorge | And I'd have to do 4x string.finds total now >_>, so was wondering if there is any easier way |
| 23:32.29 | JGeorge | And keeping a list with, and updating it with RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE might not be such a good ideea |
| 23:32.48 | JGeorge | In case of a disconnect, everyone in my raid/party would get the message again when i login |
| 23:35.19 | KarlKFI|work | or jsut program that as an exception case |
| 23:36.08 | JGeorge | Yeah thats most certainly doable, but I think 4x would do the trick though, hehe |
| 23:36.27 | Adys | nevcairiel: halp |
| 23:40.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C05EB.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 23:42.01 | JGeorge | Hmm, how exactly to get the party roster? |
| 23:45.21 | cog|work | iterate from 1 to GetNumPartyMembers, look at unitexists of party#, then get the information from other Unit functions |
| 23:45.26 | cog|work | or something like that |
| 23:45.56 | cog|work | substituting raid where necessary |
| 23:46.07 | Kraps | what does jet'aime mean? |
| 23:46.17 | JGeorge | i love you |
| 23:46.18 | cog|work | je t'aime means i love you in french |
| 23:46.27 | cog|work | not sure about jet'aime ;) |
| 23:47.56 | Kraps | so "do you je t'aime me?" is a redundant redundancy? |
| 23:48.11 | Dewin | jet'aime means "My spacebar is broken." |
| 23:48.39 | Teomyr | it's a redundant redundant redundancy |
| 23:49.43 | cog|work | Kraps: the "t'" part means "you" |
| 23:50.02 | cog|work | "do you i love you me?" |
| 23:50.22 | JGeorge | "do you je t'aime me?" = "do you i love you me?" |
| 23:50.32 | JGeorge | wat |
| 23:51.24 | Dewin | and here I thought engrish was limited to translations from asian languages. |
| 23:51.32 | Lunessa | je ne parlez francais |
| 23:52.47 | cog|work | M'aimez-vous? or M'aimes-tu? is what you're looking for iirc |
| 23:52.52 | JGeorge | you ne je t'aime me you it? |
| 23:53.13 | JGeorge | ohh, bless google translate |
| 23:53.17 | cog|work | french itself is pretty ripe with redundancies |
| 23:53.50 | JGeorge | "m'aimes-tu?" is the correct form |
| 23:54.00 | JGeorge | m'aimes-vous? is more formal iirc |
| 23:54.24 | cog|work | Qu'est-ce que c'est que ca? literally: What is this what that is what that? figuratively: "WHAT'S THAT?!!" |
| 23:55.15 | JGeorge | Lost me at the first |
| 23:55.17 | JGeorge | "'" |
| 23:55.35 | Lunessa | cog|work: It's French. Any butchery I do to it is a mercy killing. |
| 23:57.43 | Thunder_Child | so mean Lunessa |
| 23:57.57 | WobWork | I often see the same occur for English =( |
| 23:58.30 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: And this comes as a shock to you why? |
| 23:58.56 | WobWork | Lunessa is a MEANIE =( |
| 23:59.23 | Lunessa | pulls the wings off flies, un-DRMs music, and steals candy from Fisker |
| 23:59.24 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt Lunessa, i figured i would simply point out the obvious due to boredom |
| 23:59.47 | Lopeppeppy | is very very quiet. |
