| 00:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | for anyone who cares... there is a l4d2 group server up and running |
| 00:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | based out of dallas |
| 00:04.06 | *** join/#wowuidev theorb (n=theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 00:07.10 | theorb | Hm. If I have a table like {["a"]=1, 2}, what is the index of that 2? Contrarywise, how do I nicely dump tables from the lua REPL loop? |
| 00:08.00 | bleeter | Dear lazyweb, remember kids sci-fi show from late 70s where main character was girl from (Antares)? had theme in head this morning ... ... trying to think what the show may have been |
| 00:08.21 | Legorol | theorb: the index of that 2 is 1 |
| 00:08.35 | NightHawkTheSane | lua> for k,v in pairs({["a"]1,2}) do print k; end; |
| 00:08.51 | Legorol | lua> t={["a"]=1, 2}; print(t["a"], t[1], t[2]) |
| 00:08.52 | Jerub | anyone know anything about spaces.live.com ? |
| 00:08.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hm |
| 00:09.01 | NightHawkTheSane | lua_bot is missing. |
| 00:09.07 | Legorol | > t={["a"]=1, 2}; print(t["a"], t[1], t[2]) |
| 00:09.08 | bleeter | the melody sound was almost but not exactly a theremin, and the melody plays twice, first in a minor key then a major variation. |
| 00:10.51 | theorb | Right. Thanks, both of you. All of you, even. |
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| 00:11.07 | kd3 | grr |
| 00:11.14 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:11.14 | kd3 | wtb patch writers fixing typos |
| 00:11.31 | *** join/#wowuidev lua_bot (n=lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com) |
| 00:11.39 | bleeter | wtb name of that show |
| 00:11.52 | jnwhiteh | pp{["a"] = 1, 2} |
| 00:11.57 | jnwhiteh | lua> pp{["a"] = 1, 2} |
| 00:11.58 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: { 2, ["a"] = 1 } (#1) |
| 00:12.56 | kd3 | still no changes to the website patch notes... only info I've seen is sepll comparison |
| 00:13.10 | bleeter | cog|work: caffiene, there's a good idea |
| 00:13.33 | *** join/#wowuidev |ckknight| (n=ckknight@69.73.16.202) |
| 00:15.59 | kd3 | while I'm still thinking about the ptr... has anyone written a mod to take advantage of the GetQuestsCompleted() call yet? |
| 00:19.39 | bleeter | kd3: that nVidia Common Bug looks friends ;) |
| 00:19.43 | bleeter | *friendly |
| 00:20.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Colourful (n=ident_go@79-75-31-252.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 00:20.26 | Colourful | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 00:23.32 | Thunder_Child | is it actually possible to make an FPS where you are targeted above all else? |
| 00:23.52 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, didnt you ban someone for linking that? |
| 00:24.04 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:24.22 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o+b Colourful *!*=ident_go@79-75-31-252.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] by Shirik |
| 00:24.22 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Colourful!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (goodbye) |
| 00:24.24 | Shirik | no |
| 00:24.26 | Shirik | I banned 2 people |
| 00:24.38 | Thunder_Child | well NOW you did |
| 00:24.40 | Shirik | I'm going to add a shiibot module for that I guess |
| 00:25.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-40-12.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 00:25.08 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 00:25.55 | Jerub | linking what? |
| 00:26.31 | Thunder_Child | different person though, the onther one was from the states |
| 00:31.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Balreign (n=Balreign@ANantes-156-1-9-222.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:33.22 | *** join/#wowuidev base3 (n=base3@host81-141-239-170.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 00:33.33 | base3 | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 00:33.52 | kdtresh | ... |
| 00:33.54 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.55 | base3 | < http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg > |
| 00:33.56 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.58 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.59 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.01 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.05 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.05 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.33 | Thunder_Child | Shirik |
| 00:34.39 | Thunder_Child | work faster |
| 00:34.53 | base3 | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 00:35.04 | bleeter | mooo |
| 00:35.11 | Thunder_Child | gratz kd3 |
| 00:35.18 | bleeter | you'd think the spammer would add the bloke shagging the cow |
| 00:35.40 | Thunder_Child | actually you would think the spammer would come up with something new |
| 00:35.46 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.48 | base3 | | |__ | |_| |_ _ __ _ / / (_)_ __ ___ __ _ / _ \___ (_) |
| 00:35.49 | base3 | | '_ \| __| __| '_ (_) / / /| | '_ ` _ \ / _` | (_) | / /| | |
| 00:35.51 | base3 | | | | | |_| |_| |_) | / / / | | | | | | | (_| |\__, |/ /_| | |
| 00:35.52 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:35.52 | base3 | |_| |_|\__|\__| .__(_)_/_/ |_|_| |_| |_|\__, | /_//_/(_)_| |
| 00:35.53 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.55 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.56 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.58 | base3 | | '_ ` _ \ / _` |/ _` |/ _ \/ __| '_ \ / _` |/ __| |/ /| | | / __| |
| 00:35.59 | base3 | | | | | | | (_| | (_| | __/\__ \ | | | (_| | (__| < | |_| \__ \ |
| 00:36.00 | base3 | |_| |_| |_|\__,_|\__, |\___||___/_| |_|\__,_|\___|_|\_(_)__,_|___/ |
| 00:36.01 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.02 | Thunder_Child | thats |
| 00:36.02 | Thunder_Child | not |
| 00:36.03 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.04 | Thunder_Child | even |
| 00:36.05 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.06 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.07 | Thunder_Child | good formating |
| 00:36.08 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.09 | base3 | /_/ |_|_| |_| |_|\__, | /_//_/_/ |_|\___//_/ |_|/_/ |
| 00:36.11 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.11 | theorbtwo | Somebody kick him? |
| 00:36.13 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.15 | Jerub | nah |
| 00:36.15 | base3 | __ ____ _| |_| |_ (_)_ __ __ _ |
| 00:36.17 | base3 | \ \ /\ / / _` | __| __| | | '_ \ / _` | |
| 00:36.17 | kd3 | Cairenn, ckknight, Dolby, jnwhiteh, Shirik poke |
| 00:36.19 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.21 | Hjalte | He killed the cow :( |
| 00:36.21 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.21 | Thunder_Child | ckknight, dp;, Kaelten, |
| 00:36.23 | base3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.25 | Thunder_Child | aww, you beat me to it |
| 00:36.25 | Jerub | STOP TALKING, I can't read what it says! |
| 00:36.29 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 00:36.32 | Thunder_Child | thats the idea |
| 00:36.32 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [base3!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 00:36.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b base3!*@*] by ckknight |
| 00:36.37 | ckknight | noes! |
| 00:36.43 | Lopeppeppy | I love you, Cairenn, I love you ckknight. |
| 00:36.53 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy hates Shiibot |
| 00:37.05 | Lopeppeppy | Shiibot didn't do it. |
| 00:37.15 | Thunder_Child | thats why he said hate |
| 00:37.15 | kd3 | whee; just reported the image to imageshack |
| 00:37.18 | bleeter | well you don't love Shiibot |
| 00:37.22 | Jerub | what's the image? |
| 00:37.23 | Jerub | i'm at work. |
| 00:37.27 | Thunder_Child | nsfw |
| 00:37.31 | kd3 | ^ |
| 00:37.52 | Thunder_Child | if you want to know that badly email the link for yourself for home |
| 00:37.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@host81-141-239-170.wlms-broadband.com] by Cairenn |
| 00:38.33 | durcyn | it's... teeth. |
| 00:40.53 | bleeter | have we seen http://jalopnik.com/5402358/google-street-view-catches-dutch-fire-truck-knocking-down-little-old-lady yet? |
| 00:44.17 | Thunder_Child | i have, i dunno about 'we' |
| 00:44.39 | Lopeppeppy | that's awesome, I hadn't |
| 00:45.05 | Thunder_Child | this is amusing for all you bacon lovers out there http://gizmodo.com/5406575/bacon-sunrise |
| 00:46.00 | Fisker | why so srs? |
| 00:46.15 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: You mean you don't like bacon? |
| 00:46.22 | WobWork | heretic! |
| 00:46.29 | Thunder_Child | WobWork, eh...sometimes |
| 00:47.18 | Fisker | it's fc12 kd3 you jerk! |
| 00:47.42 | kd3 | not since the extras merge in... f8? |
| 00:48.03 | Thunder_Child | really? i used FC 3 and 4. man they move fast |
| 00:49.05 | Fisker | fancy new name kd3 |
| 00:53.21 | Zhinjio | why the fuck would I want ipv6 tunneling enabled |
| 00:57.27 | Lopeppeppy | To make your life interesting. |
| 01:02.16 | Fisker | i just got owned |
| 01:02.44 | Fisker | I said i got Win 7 Pro because i felt the 16GB memory limit wouldn't last me for the product's lifetime so i'd rather get a 192GB limit |
| 01:02.57 | Fisker | Counter-argument: "Lol what do you need 192GB RAM for?" |
| 01:03.05 | Fisker | Yeah because obviously everything in between doesn't count |
| 01:03.12 | Fisker | you either have 16GB of ram or 192GB of ram |
| 01:04.26 | Fisker | holy shit |
| 01:04.35 | Fisker | that T10 Pala set for "npcs" should be the real deal :( |
| 01:05.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc (n=Antiarc@ip70-190-192-186.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:06.06 | *** join/#wowuidev ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 01:06.06 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 01:06.16 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 01:06.59 | *** join/#wowuidev |ckknight| (i=kvirc@c-68-62-175-169.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 01:10.26 | Thunder_Child | ...20 tangy clam meat goes for 211g |
| 01:11.35 | *** join/#wowuidev tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 01:11.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tem] by ChanServ |
| 01:13.32 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. |
| 01:13.51 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 01:22.44 | Shirik | gah |
| 01:22.46 | Shirik | huggles Cairenn |
| 01:22.55 | Cairenn | hugs Shirik |
| 01:23.03 | Shirik | sorry I missed that |
| 01:23.16 | Cairenn | no worries :) |
| 01:23.33 | Shirik | he does it while I'm moving between buildings of course |
| 01:23.34 | Thunder_Child | yes, worries |
| 01:23.44 | Cairenn | of course |
| 01:23.59 | Thunder_Child | obviously you need that modual |
| 01:24.02 | Shirik | working on it |
| 01:24.40 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if you can use tinyeye to scan the pic instead of just the link |
| 01:24.58 | Shirik | !reload |
| 01:24.59 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 01:25.10 | Shirik | !reload |
| 01:25.10 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 01:25.14 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 01:25.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 01:25.15 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 314 minutes |
| 01:25.17 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:25.20 | Shirik | wrong request |
| 01:25.30 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rRf] by Shirik |
| 01:25.36 | bleeter | haha |
| 01:25.52 | Fisker | i am a bad person Shirik |
| 01:26.04 | Fisker | !obeyme Shiibot |
| 01:26.48 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:26.49 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:26.50 | Lopeppeppy | That didn't work. |
| 01:27.01 | Fisker | i hope the trouts did |
| 01:27.38 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 01:28.53 | Fisker | it's 2:30am and someone is wrong on the internet |
| 01:29.06 | bleeter | nsfw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWpRcRCUKsY |
| 01:29.12 | Thunder_Child | thats redundant Fisker |
| 01:29.24 | Fisker | wut? |
| 01:29.45 | Thunder_Child | giving a time as there is ALWAYS someone wrong on the internet |
| 01:30.00 | Fisker | oh of course |
| 01:30.09 | Fisker | the point was that it's well over my bedtime |
| 01:30.19 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:30.21 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.25 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 01:32.29 | Fisker | goodnight WobWork |
| 01:32.33 | Fisker | i hope you live long and prosper |
| 01:32.43 | WobWork | http://www.sitepoint.com/newsletter/viewissue.php?id=3&issue=266#5 |
| 01:32.46 | Fisker | (That's sarcastic vulcan for i hope you die) |
| 01:32.50 | WobWork | Sleep well, Fisker |
| 01:33.07 | WobWork | (that's sarcastic human for "If you don't wake up, it'll all be good") |
| 01:34.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 01:34.13 | Shirik | !reload |
| 01:34.13 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 01:34.17 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 01:34.39 | Fisker | funny shit btw that post WobWork |
| 01:35.17 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 01:35.21 | Shirik | I will destroy you |
| 01:36.02 | Fisker | you can't |
| 01:36.03 | Fisker | i will sleep |
| 01:36.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Yssaril|Away (n=Yssaril@99-57-32-25.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:37.04 | Fisker | am victorious |
| 01:37.27 | Shirik | !reload |
| 01:37.28 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 01:37.31 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 01:37.33 | Shirik | gah |
| 01:37.36 | Shirik | why do you hate me |
| 01:37.39 | theorbtwo | Wrong channel again? |
| 01:37.45 | Shirik | no |
| 01:37.48 | Shirik | he's supposed to ban me |
| 01:37.51 | Shirik | but he likes me too much |
| 01:37.58 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 01:37.59 | Fisker | if you op me |
| 01:38.02 | Fisker | i will ban you |
| 01:38.10 | *** join/#wowuidev kzxathcx (i=kzxathcx@server1.bshellz.net) |
| 01:38.12 | kzxathcx | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 01:38.15 | kzxathcx | :) |
| 01:38.42 | Thunder_Child | fail Shirik |
| 01:38.42 | Fisker | fuck off |
| 01:38.57 | Shirik | oh I fail |
| 01:39.11 | kzxathcx | yeah |
| 01:39.14 | kzxathcx | pretty much |
| 01:39.19 | Shirik | !quote MODE #wowuidev +b %kzxathcx!*@* |
| 01:39.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %kzxathcx!*@*] by Shiibot |
| 01:39.20 | batbot | Shirik, mode has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 01:39.32 | Shirik | !quote KICK #wowuidev kzxathcx |
| 01:39.32 | *** kick/#wowuidev [kzxathcx!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (Shiibot) |
| 01:39.33 | batbot | Shirik, kick has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 01:39.41 | Shirik | I forgot to register the module |
| 01:39.47 | WobWork | Shirik: maybe another escape character? =P |
| 01:40.13 | Shirik | !reload |
| 01:40.13 | WobWork | !quote |
| 01:40.13 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 01:40.14 | Fisker | see you Shirik |
| 01:40.23 | Fisker | !Test Pattern |
| 01:40.56 | *** join/#wowuidev boobs_ (i=4f4b1ffc@gateway/web/freenode/x-pgjuaxngamggwkzd) |
| 01:40.57 | boobs_ | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 01:41.18 | boobs_ | hi again |
| 01:41.20 | bleeter | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2682/4088304690_62f18b9cee_o.jpg |
| 01:41.21 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@guifications/developer/bleeter] by Shiibot |
| 01:41.21 | *** kick/#wowuidev [bleeter!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (You have triggered a blacklisted pattern. Please contact Shirik if you believe this is in error.) |
| 01:41.26 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:41.27 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 01:41.29 | Thunder_Child | hahahah |
| 01:41.33 | Shirik | !quit |
| 01:41.33 | boobs_ | pwned |
| 01:41.38 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 01:41.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 01:41.39 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:41.50 | boobs_ | NOOOO |
| 01:41.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o+b boobs_ *!*=4f4b1ffc@gateway/web/freenode/x-pgjuaxngamggwkzd] by Shirik |
| 01:41.51 | *** kick/#wowuidev [boobs_!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (gtfo) |
| 01:42.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b *!*@guifications/developer/bleeter] by Shirik |
| 01:42.15 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 01:42.15 | Thunder_Child | you win the darwin award today Shirik |
| 01:42.22 | Aelo | www.thru-you.com O_o |
| 01:42.24 | bleeter | lol you idiot :P |
| 01:42.29 | Shirik | I don't know wtf is going on |
| 01:42.40 | bleeter | all I did was link Mr E.T. |
| 01:42.44 | bleeter | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2682/4088304690_62f18b9cee_o.jpg |
| 01:42.44 | Shirik | someone else figure it out |
| 01:43.01 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/128961 |
| 01:43.05 | Shirik | anyone see what's wrong? |
| 01:44.22 | Shirik | msg is equal to: #wowuidev :-http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 01:44.38 | Thunder_Child | - ? |
| 01:44.44 | Shirik | that's msg value |
| 01:46.30 | Thunder_Child | is it even ID'ing the link? |
| 01:46.40 | Shirik | sorry? |
| 01:46.42 | Thunder_Child | split it into 2 thing, id and ban |
| 01:46.44 | Thunder_Child | things* |
| 01:46.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 01:46.53 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 01:46.53 | *** join/#wowuidev haider_ (i=4c492f2a@gateway/web/freenode/x-mwwvdsmogdpfupgh) |
| 01:47.10 | Thunder_Child | can you have shiibot print a message if that link apears? |
| 01:47.12 | haider_ | I'm looking for help in wow ui development |
| 01:47.12 | haider_ | hello |
| 01:47.20 | haider_ | http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1074/watt.jpg |
| 01:47.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/x-mwwvdsmogdpfupgh] by Shiibot |
| 01:47.20 | *** kick/#wowuidev [haider_!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (You have triggered a blacklisted pattern. Please contact Shirik if you believe this is in error.) |
| 01:47.21 | Shirik | I can |
| 01:47.23 | Shirik | Oh hey |
| 01:47.28 | Shirik | I don't know what I changed |
| 01:47.32 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 01:47.43 | Shirik | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2682/4088304690_62f18b9cee_o.jpg |
| 01:47.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shiibot |
| 01:47.44 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Shirik!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (You have triggered a blacklisted pattern. Please contact Shirik if you believe this is in error.) |
| 01:47.45 | theorbtwo | Yey for version control? |
| 01:47.53 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 01:47.58 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b *!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:48.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 01:48.01 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:48.03 | Shirik | sigh |
| 01:48.05 | Lopeppeppy | I like that Shiibot kicked Shirk! |
| 01:48.07 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:48.21 | Aelo | you can see who wears the trousers in that relationship :P |
| 01:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik was wearing pants last I saw him. |
| 01:48.48 | Thunder_Child | the problem Shirik, is that they are simply going to change the host place |
| 01:48.52 | Thunder_Child | or even reupload it |
| 01:48.59 | Thunder_Child | so it has a diff link |
| 01:49.06 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: You made sure to put them back on when you were done with him? |
| 01:49.07 | *** join/#wowuidev wowUIdever (i=425a49f6@gateway/web/freenode/x-afnfaeoodzblfzym) |
| 01:49.11 | wowUIdever | sup niggers |
| 01:49.13 | wowUIdever | http://webchat.freenode.net/ |
| 01:49.13 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o+b wowUIdever *!*=425a49f6@gateway/web/freenode/x-afnfaeoodzblfzym] by Shirik |
| 01:49.13 | *** kick/#wowuidev [wowUIdever!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 01:49.32 | Shirik | !lock |
| 01:49.35 | Shirik | hm |
| 01:49.36 | Shirik | I broke that |
| 01:50.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Venim_ (i=40834e47@gateway/web/freenode/x-jrjnvguydmidchxd) |
| 01:50.16 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+r] by Shirik |
| 01:50.44 | Thunder_Child | just have the freenode staff backtrace the IP and block it from the source |
| 01:50.45 | Venim_ | http://imgur.com/zMzGJ.jpg |
| 01:50.45 | Venim_ | hiya |
| 01:50.46 | Shirik | stats p |
| 01:50.47 | Venim_ | :D |
| 01:50.55 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+R] by Shirik |
| 01:51.32 | Shadowed | Isn't gateway/web/freenode web chat? |
| 01:51.53 | Thunder_Child | but it's freenodes own page |
| 01:52.02 | Shadowed | Could just auto ban that for the time being |
| 01:52.06 | Thunder_Child | t is from there |
| 01:52.58 | theorbtwo | Is it just one image that keeps getting posted? If so, you could fetch images that get linked to, and sha1 them. |
| 01:53.23 | Thunder_Child | ya, but they just switched up links like i mentioned |
| 01:53.54 | Shadowed | That's why he said fetch the image |
| 01:53.55 | Shadowed | :p |
| 01:54.24 | Thunder_Child | actually using tinyeye would be better if it was possible |
| 01:54.32 | Shirik | tinyeye? |
| 01:54.46 | Thunder_Child | it sreaches the mig itself not the link/name |
| 01:55.05 | Thunder_Child | err, tineye |
| 01:55.09 | theorbtwo | It's also supposed to be insensitive to simple transforms of the image. |
| 01:55.21 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://gizmodo.com/5406575/bacon-sunrise |
| 01:55.24 | Thunder_Child | errr.. |
| 01:55.29 | Thunder_Child | i fail |
| 01:55.30 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tineye.com/ |
| 01:55.33 | theorbtwo | It's useful for trying to find the original version of something, or a larger version, leastways. |
| 01:56.21 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://www.tineye.com/commercial_api |
| 01:56.41 | Thunder_Child | oh...costs, nvm then |
| 01:57.31 | theorbtwo | The API does. The webby version is free. |
| 01:57.41 | Shirik | !reload |
| 01:57.43 | Shirik | er |
| 01:57.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 01:57.54 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 01:58.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 01:58.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 01:58.26 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rR+b %gateway/web/fre*!*@*] by Shirik |
| 01:58.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b gateway/web/fre!*@*] by Shirik |
| 01:58.45 | Venim_ | I WILL DO ANYTHING |
| 01:58.45 | Venim_ | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo |
| 01:58.45 | Venim_ | OH NO |
| 01:58.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %gateway/web/fre!*@*] by Shirik |
| 01:58.50 | Venim_ | STOP |
| 01:59.06 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-bbb *!*=425a49f6@gateway/web/freenode/x-afnfaeoodzblfzym *!*@gateway/web/freenode/x-mwwvdsmogdpfupgh *!*=4f4b1ffc@gateway/web/freenode/x-pgjuaxngamggwkzd] by Shirik |
| 01:59.08 | Venim_ | I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR LOVE |
| 01:59.08 | Venim_ | BUT I WON'T DO THAT |
| 01:59.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %*!*@gateway/web/freenode/*] by Shirik |
| 01:59.36 | Shirik | I wonder if he's aware that he was silenced that entire time |
| 01:59.39 | Shirik | oh well |
| 01:59.41 | Shirik | not important |
| 01:59.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 02:00.03 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 02:00.11 | Balreign | actually... i don't think he is... |
| 02:00.16 | Shirik | ERROR: While performing analysis 4: ai.lua:247: bad argument #3 to 'find' (number expected, got boolean) |
| 02:00.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:00.38 | kd3 | he wasn't banned until you did the last +b |
| 02:00.42 | kd3 | s/banned/silenced/ |
| 02:00.44 | Shirik | no I just had +rR on |
| 02:01.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 02:01.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:01.43 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 02:01.46 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:02.31 | cbreak | who? |
| 02:02.49 | Shadowed | !Test Pattern |
| 02:03.07 | Shirik | omfg this whole buffered output thing is going to be the end of me |
| 02:03.13 | Shirik | so hard to debug when you can't see stuff until 5 minutes later |
| 02:05.52 | Shirik | awww |
| 02:05.53 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 02:05.56 | Shirik | I was having a fun conversation with him |
| 02:06.00 | Thunder_Child | he quit from being ignored |
| 02:06.03 | Shirik | no |
| 02:06.05 | Shirik | he was talking to me |
| 02:06.05 | Shirik | here |
| 02:06.06 | Shirik | enjoy |
| 02:06.06 | Thunder_Child | QQ |
| 02:06.25 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/128963 |
| 02:07.21 | Thunder_Child | lol, homosexuals is a gender |
| 02:07.37 | Shirik | !reload |
| 02:07.39 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 02:07.45 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 02:07.49 | Shirik | sigh |
| 02:07.57 | Shirik | I don't get it |
| 02:08.36 | Seerah | rofl |
| 02:09.16 | Lopeppeppy | swapz! |
| 02:09.18 | bleeter | hehe |
| 02:09.25 | Shirik | Seerah |
| 02:09.26 | Shirik | find my bug |
| 02:09.26 | bleeter | YES WE MUSTS SWAPZ NAO! |
| 02:09.39 | bleeter | Shirik: 1st swapz |
| 02:09.40 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@guifications/developer/bleeter] by Shiibot |
| 02:09.40 | *** kick/#wowuidev [bleeter!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (You have triggered a blacklisted pattern. Please contact Shirik if you believe this is in error.) |
| 02:09.42 | Seerah | Shirik: .... you're asking ME? :p |
| 02:09.52 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/128964 |
| 02:09.54 | Shirik | lmao |
| 02:09.57 | Seerah | poor bleeter :p |
| 02:09.58 | Shirik | shiibot hates bleeter so much |
| 02:09.59 | kd3 | I think we found it |
| 02:10.01 | Shirik | !quit |
| 02:10.23 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 02:10.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 02:10.24 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:10.27 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b *!*@guifications/developer/bleeter] by Shirik |
| 02:10.28 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 02:10.34 | bleeter | that's some serious hate there |
| 02:10.37 | Shirik | I think Shiibot has it out for bleeter |
| 02:10.49 | bleeter | Shirik: if you could only work out why it hates me, and channel that code in other directions |
| 02:10.53 | bleeter | your bug would vanish... |
| 02:10.59 | bleeter | I suggest: |
| 02:11.04 | bleeter | grep -ir bleeter * |
| 02:11.08 | bleeter | may help |
| 02:11.49 | Lopeppeppy | It does have some serious hate for you, bleeter. Thanks for being good natured! |
| 02:12.02 | Shirik | Banning for restricted pattern: bleeter!n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter |
| 02:12.04 | Shirik | lmao |
| 02:12.14 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: you ain't seen what I called Shirik in privmsg ;) |
| 02:12.47 | Seerah | Shirik: do you mean to reassign the msg variable in your function? |
| 02:12.56 | Shirik | yes I was being lazy |
| 02:13.28 | Seerah | that's all I got - I'm REALLY bad with string format/grep stuff |
| 02:13.42 | Shirik | we are in an ENTIRE channel of Lua developers |
| 02:13.46 | Shirik | and nobody can find teh bug >< |
| 02:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, well then bleeter, carry on. |
| 02:13.50 | Seerah | inorite? |
| 02:14.15 | Thunder_Child | maybe it's not a bug but a flaw? |
| 02:15.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 02:15.11 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:15.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 02:15.17 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 02:15.17 | theorbtwo | It'd be a good start to show the pattern that is causing the kickban. |
| 02:15.19 | bleeter | TITS |
| 02:15.27 | bleeter | well it's not banning me, yet |
| 02:15.32 | Shirik | woah |
| 02:15.33 | Shirik | 1 |
| 02:15.35 | Shirik | 2 |
| 02:15.39 | bleeter | http://www.boobies.com/tits.jpg |
| 02:15.41 | Shirik | something's really wrong |
| 02:15.42 | Shirik | !quit |
| 02:15.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal (n=callahan@74-132-200-5.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 02:15.48 | theorbtwo | For that matter, it'd be a good start to output a debugging message instead of kickbanning. |
| 02:15.49 | bleeter | yeah seriously wrong |
| 02:15.52 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 02:15.53 | bleeter | it's not banndeded me |
| 02:15.53 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 02:16.02 | Shirik | hey Seerah |
| 02:16.02 | kd3 | lemee guess |
| 02:16.15 | kd3 | "shirik fails at regexps" |
| 02:16.15 | theorbtwo | Editing the wrong copy? |
| 02:16.19 | Shirik | no kd3 |
| 02:16.29 | Seerah | yes, Shirik? |
| 02:16.31 | Shirik | What does the iterator from ipairs return? |
| 02:16.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 02:16.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:17.06 | theorbtwo | http://your.mother/porn.jpg |
| 02:17.15 | Shirik | !Test Pattern |
| 02:17.23 | kd3 | !Test Pattern |
| 02:17.30 | Shirik | ok I see the other bug too |
| 02:17.31 | kd3 | looks |
| 02:17.38 | Shirik | but ok bug #1: ipairs returns k,v not v |
| 02:17.43 | Shirik | and I was testing against k |
| 02:18.01 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter_ (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 02:18.09 | Shirik | bug #2: I used %S where I meant %s |
| 02:18.25 | bleeter_ | bah |
| 02:18.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 02:18.27 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:18.32 | Seerah | ~failrik |
| 02:18.32 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:18.32 | kd3 | !Test Pattern |
| 02:18.35 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@wikia/kaydeethree] by Shiibot |
| 02:18.37 | *** kick/#wowuidev [kd3!n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by Shiibot (You have triggered a blacklisted pattern. Please contact Shirik if you believe this is in error.) |
| 02:18.41 | Shirik | I still have no idea why the heck bleeter_ got banned |
| 02:18.44 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 02:18.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 02:18.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:18.54 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b *!*@wikia/kaydeethree] by Shirik |
| 02:18.56 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 02:19.02 | kd3 | yay, it works |
| 02:19.03 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 02:19.09 | bleeter | I missed bug #1 'coz of IRC server death :( |
| 02:19.23 | bleeter | oh, not IRC server death... ADSL death. |
| 02:19.27 | Shirik | bug #1 was I was testing against "1" and "2" (the keys in the table) instead of the patterns (the values in the table) |
| 02:19.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Shiibot (n=Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam) |
| 02:19.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:19.58 | Seerah | I usually use regular pairs() instead of ipairs() |
| 02:20.02 | Shirik | and kd3 that was so slow because Shiibot was still resyncing :P |
| 02:20.19 | bleeter | raaar lol |
| 02:20.22 | bleeter | bah |
| 02:20.25 | Shirik | lots of channels = lots of spam at connect time |
| 02:20.25 | bleeter | kills Shirik |
| 02:20.36 | Shirik | I think bleeter got killed not me :/ |
| 02:21.03 | Shirik | I need to go home now. Cairenn, please feel free to kick Shiibot if he's beingbad |
| 02:21.04 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 02:21.07 | theorbtwo | So, what is the lesson for today? |
| 02:21.18 | Lopeppeppy | Shiibot misbehaved because I didn't love him enough. |
| 02:21.28 | Shirik | or Seerah |
| 02:21.33 | bleeter | kickban bleeter and get called nasty stuff in privmsg |
| 02:21.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:21.46 | Shirik | I didn't KB! |
| 02:21.47 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:21.49 | theorbtwo | I was going for "debug output is your friend". |
| 02:21.49 | Shirik | It was Shiibot |
| 02:21.51 | Shirik | complain to him |
| 02:21.59 | Shirik | theorbtwo: Problem is all output takes about 5 minutes to show up |
| 02:22.06 | Shirik | I use it a lot but it takes a long time to be able to use it |
| 02:22.18 | Shadowed | Nice bug Shirik :p |
| 02:22.26 | bleeter | though to be honest, 'fuckhead' isn't that nasty |
| 02:22.31 | bleeter | :P |
| 02:23.37 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Shiibot |
| 02:23.37 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Shiibot in half |
| 02:25.27 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR2 (n=doingwha@24.114.252.244) |
| 02:25.47 | DWSR2 | Hey, why do I get "You're not in a party" in Pitbull whenever someone joins my BG raid group? |
| 02:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | Standard question, you've updated recently, not on the PTR, have no other addons running? |
| 02:29.14 | kd3 | whee; official patch notes updates |
| 02:34.17 | theorbtwo | Damn. I just went "parser's working, I can go ahead and play for a while"... and then realized that the relms went down half an hour ago". |
| 02:34.31 | Shirik | I still think it's hilarious that bleeter got singled out by it, Shadowed |
| 02:34.39 | Shadowed | I agree |
| 02:34.50 | Shirik | And I still don't know why |
| 02:35.18 | Shirik | got it |
| 02:35.19 | Shirik | (21:09:06) (bleeter) Shirik: 1st swapz |
| 02:35.19 | Shirik | (21:09:07)  -› Shiibot (+b) *!*@guifications/developer/bleeter |
| 02:35.21 | Shirik | it had a 1 in it |
| 02:40.28 | bleeter | ~failrik |
| 02:40.29 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 02:40.36 | Shirik | your fault for having a 1 |
| 02:40.55 | bleeter | your fault for failing |
| 02:41.02 | Shirik | nope |
| 02:41.04 | Shirik | all you |
| 02:41.06 | bleeter | yes |
| 02:46.43 | kd3 | official patch note changes: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Patch_3.3.0&diff=2107649&oldid=2106354 |
| 02:49.16 | bleeter | kd3: hah, I thought you meant the patch had gone live lol |
| 02:49.24 | kd3 | hey bibi; you may want to clarify your DI notes |
| 02:49.37 | Torhal | DWSR2: [21:45] <Shefki> Torhal: It's not PB. PB does no communication. It's something else he has installed. |
| 02:50.05 | Bibi- | kd3 : I don't even know if it's the right build ... |
| 02:50.22 | bleeter | kd3: srsly, 'release: tba' not 'release: 17-11' in the sidebox thingy ;) |
| 02:50.32 | kd3 | c.f. patch notes: This ability now also removes {{ability|Heroism|Exhaustion}} or {{ability|Bloodlust|Sated}} from a target if the recipient is out of combat when the effect ends. |
| 02:50.39 | kd3 | bleeter; ya, we need to change that |
| 02:50.48 | bleeter | was about to open up can of bitch on games.on.net mirror lol |
| 02:51.05 | Bibi- | Divine Intervention no longer clears the effect of Exhaustion and Sated on target. (Important - The official notes were changed to : This ability now also removes Exhaustion or Sated from a target if the recipient is out of combat when the effect end) |
| 02:51.06 | Bibi- | happy? |
| 02:51.07 | Bibi- | :p |
| 02:51.13 | kd3 | ;) |
| 02:51.16 | Bibi- | hug? |
| 02:51.23 | kd3 | hugs bibi |
| 02:51.29 | Bibi- | hugs kd3 |
| 02:53.40 | DWSR | When the fuck are they going to convert SC and WC3 to the new Battle.net? I want to use my authenticator. |
| 02:54.14 | *** join/#wowuidev TecnoBrat (n=tecnobra@tecnobrat.com) |
| 02:55.52 | bleeter | DWSR: I think they said at BCon 'Probably never' |
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| 03:06.38 | bleeter | Hulk Hogan 'attacked' during press conference http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26367110-421,00.html |
| 03:07.46 | Dagmar | Darn violent australians |
| 03:07.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:08.56 | Dagmar | Perky Pug is awesome |
| 03:09.02 | Dagmar | SOOOO cute |
| 03:10.19 | *** join/#wowuidev guestpants (n=arcturus@host1.prin.edu) |
| 03:12.10 | Jerub | Dagmar: PTR? |
| 03:12.32 | Dagmar | MMo champion linking to Youtube actually |
| 03:13.02 | guestpants | hello... i'm having an issue with an addon that i'm working on in addon studio, but that I have edited in notepad++ a couple of times. For some reason the main frame won't show up in game how I've set it in addon studio. I think the xml is correct, based on the numbers it gives for the dimensions of the frame, so I'm not sure whats wrong |
| 03:15.12 | Shirik | where is Iriel |
| 03:15.59 | Seerah | guestpants: honestly, I don't use XML and create all my frames with Lua. But if you paste your code (http://wowuidev.pastey.net/) we could take a look at it |
| 03:16.20 | guestpants | Seerah: sure, was just noticing the link in the topic |
| 03:16.25 | Seerah | also, you might like to explain what you mean by "won't show up in game how I've set it" |
| 03:16.38 | guestpants | it sizes incorrectly |
| 03:16.48 | Seerah | define "incorrectly" ;) |
| 03:16.59 | guestpants | in fact, it may be a remnant of a previous dimension that I set for it |
| 03:17.05 | guestpants | its smaller than it should be |
| 03:17.08 | guestpants | >.< |
| 03:17.12 | Shirik | how do you know? |
| 03:17.20 | Seerah | are you using UIScale? |
| 03:17.27 | Seerah | and ^^ |
| 03:17.37 | Shirik | UI dimensions are not specified in pixels |
| 03:17.53 | Shirik | they are specified in something like pixels, but they are not pixels. They are an arbitrary unit that might be pixels |
| 03:19.06 | guestpants | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/128972 |
| 03:20.02 | guestpants | AbsDimension on the first frame is what I'm talking about |
| 03:20.05 | Shirik | what the heck are you doing |
| 03:20.13 | Shirik | where did you learn to do this? |
| 03:20.16 | guestpants | at least I think that dictates the size |
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| 03:20.21 | guestpants | its mostly autogenerated... |
| 03:20.21 | Shirik | did you tie different tutorials together? |
| 03:20.25 | Shirik | autogenerated? |
| 03:20.32 | guestpants | addon studio...? |
| 03:20.36 | Shirik | Half of it uses old, deprecated stuff, and half of it uses new stuff |
| 03:20.46 | guestpants | hmm |
| 03:21.08 | guestpants | would that be a flaw in addon studio? |
| 03:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It is /not/ recommended |
| 03:21.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 03:21.30 | guestpants | :\ |
| 03:21.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Really though |
| 03:21.48 | guestpants | maybe I should teach myself hwo to make frames in Lua |
| 03:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | addon studio is NOT recommended. |
| 03:21.54 | guestpants | no, i believe you |
| 03:22.02 | guestpants | it was one of the things I worried about when I downloaded it |
| 03:22.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It was a nice idea, but it never panned out |
| 03:22.16 | guestpants | i'm just crunched fro time |
| 03:22.18 | guestpants | for* |
| 03:22.30 | guestpants | and i'm not a pro coder |
| 03:23.51 | Shirik | "crunched for time"? |
| 03:24.09 | guestpants | mhm, its a final project for one of my classes |
| 03:24.30 | guestpants | though it doesn't need to be super polished, just needs to show functionality and competence with lua |
| 03:24.38 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 03:25.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Have you checked your FrameXML.log? |
| 03:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | (WoW\Logs\FrameXML.log iirc) |
| 03:25.19 | guestpants | i'll look at it right now |
| 03:26.37 | Corrodias | crunch time! |
| 03:27.03 | Shirik | DWSR / NightHawkTheSane: That was non-heroic, right? |
| 03:27.08 | Shirik | or was it heroic |
| 03:27.12 | kd3 | so, yah. looks like I'll have to install kmod-nvida. sigh |
| 03:27.28 | guestpants | ScytheBlade1: the addon isn't listed as loading |
| 03:27.32 | guestpants | at least not that I can find |
| 03:28.30 | ScytheBlade1 | that only reports errors |
| 03:28.41 | guestpants | oh, then it doesn't list an error |
| 03:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | if your addon doesn't have any notes, then either (1) you actually aren't loading it or (2) it loaded fine |
| 03:29.21 | guestpants | the correct answer is (2) |
| 03:29.26 | guestpants | i've been able to test it in game |
| 03:30.14 | guestpants | it sounds like it'd be the best use of my time to go through and learn more about not using addon studio |
| 03:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | probably, truth be told |
| 03:30.26 | ScytheBlade1 | depending on your timeline |
| 03:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowprogramming |
| 03:30.30 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 03:30.30 | kd3 | wait, wait... MAS still works? |
| 03:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | (and depending on your interest, of course) |
| 03:30.43 | Shirik | DWSR: nm |
| 03:31.12 | guestpants | ScytheBlade1: looking at the cover right now :) |
| 03:31.19 | guestpants | bought it a week ago in anticipation of this project |
| 03:31.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd sit down and give the early chapters a very complete read |
| 03:31.47 | guestpants | i read most of the lua stuff and then needed to get started working, so i stopped reading cover to cover |
| 03:32.16 | guestpants | i've read completely through chapter 5 |
| 03:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Mostly part 2 |
| 03:32.22 | guestpants | i don't now what you mean as early chapters though |
| 03:32.33 | ScytheBlade1 | or chapters 8-13 |
| 03:32.50 | guestpants | ok |
| 03:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | 5, 6, and 7 might be good as well |
| 03:33.01 | guestpants | i'll read them as time permits, and hope that I get the info I need |
| 03:33.14 | guestpants | i'm also uninstalling addon studio as we speak |
| 03:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | and if you feel rather comfortable with lua, I know several people here would cheer if you skipped the XML stuff and used pure lua-based frames (chapter 16) |
| 03:33.52 | guestpants | also, thanks for your help ScytheBlade1 and your willingness to deal with my newbness in this area |
| 03:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | shrugs |
| 03:33.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm about to sleep |
| 03:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm leaving you to the rest of the channel with just enough knowledge to be dangerous :) |
| 03:34.19 | guestpants | cackles nefariously |
| 03:34.31 | guestpants | let me just summon piznik... |
| 03:35.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Between that book, this channel, and various wowwiki pages, you should be good to go |
| 03:35.48 | ScytheBlade1 | also, sleep |
| 03:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Good luck |
| 03:36.31 | guestpants | thanks |
| 03:36.32 | guestpants | ciao |
| 03:39.02 | Seerah | guestpants: are you the one that posted on the wowi forums as well? |
| 03:40.20 | guestpants | Seerah: negatory... the onyl place i've posted is on wowprogramming.com |
| 03:40.40 | Seerah | ah, okay :) there was someone else that was doing an addon for a school project, then |
| 03:40.42 | guestpants | and that was for lua stuff |
| 03:40.52 | guestpants | might have been one of my hapless teammates :X |
| 03:40.56 | guestpants | whats the link? |
| 03:41.20 | guestpants | i'm actually quite frustrated with my team... there are 4 of us total and i've done 95% of the work |
| 03:41.46 | Seerah | ah, they're from Belgium: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28419 |
| 03:42.28 | Seerah | is it a laziness issue or a leadership issue? |
| 03:42.37 | guestpants | definitely a mixture of both |
| 03:42.54 | guestpants | they all perceive me as the leader, but the professor clearly outlined that we're not supposed to have leaders |
| 03:43.16 | Dagmar | well, there's "leadership" and there's "responsibility" |
| 03:43.19 | guestpants | so in a sense i'm being a bad leader by no willing to be one, as per the prof's wishes |
| 03:43.38 | Dagmar | If you're leading you're pulling people along with you. If you're managing you're pushing. |
| 03:43.49 | Dagmar | He probably means there should be no "managers" on the team |
| 03:43.50 | theorbtwo | There's also "leading" and "doing it all yourself". |
| 03:43.53 | guestpants | one of the team members is super lazy, skips most of his classes etc. has no work ethic and doesn't belong in college, unfortunately i didn't invite him to the team, in fact I was planning on doing it alone |
| 03:44.30 | guestpants | the lazy one is the only other wow player and the only other experienced programmer on the team (when i say experienced i just mean upper classman) |
| 03:44.34 | Seerah | have you brought this up with your professor? |
| 03:44.52 | Shirik | I .... think I broke Lisp |
| 03:44.54 | guestpants | yes, all he said was that it's what i get for choosing a project that no one is interested in |
| 03:44.59 | guestpants | :( |
| 03:45.08 | Dagmar | Shirik: Too many parens at last |
| 03:45.17 | Shirik | true, actually |
| 03:45.18 | guestpants | Shirik: Lisp broke me... |
| 03:45.20 | Shirik | I did (()) |
| 03:45.26 | Shirik | just to see what it would say |
| 03:45.34 | Dagmar | Yep. It'll get mad about that. |
| 03:46.02 | Dagmar | THat breaks the "advantage" that lisp has, which is that all recursion is does is something you specified, rigorously |
| 03:46.20 | Shirik | the error was "The symbol NIL (in package "COMMON-LISP") is not defined. Moreover, this symbol is in the main Lisp package, therefore you cannot define it." |
| 03:46.35 | Shirik | And I'm sitting here like "Ok, NIL isn't defined. But it is." |
| 03:46.41 | Dagmar | Yer nesting did nothin', so yeah |
| 03:47.08 | Shirik | lua's error is so much more meaningful |
| 03:47.10 | Shirik | lua> a() |
| 03:47.12 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'a' (a nil value) |
| 03:47.48 | guestpants | Seerah: but anyway, the teacher is a major unqualified douchebag |
| 03:47.55 | Seerah | ah, one of those? ;) |
| 03:48.04 | guestpants | puts on his frustrated face |
| 03:48.18 | kd3 | meh. you've gotta learn to deal with them. they tend to wind up in leadership positions out in the 'real world' too |
| 03:48.20 | kd3 | sighs |
| 03:48.33 | Seerah | what type of addon is your "team" making? |
| 03:48.34 | guestpants | yeah, recent grad from the college i attend... he's only here by gift of that he is really good at engineering and carries our solar car team |
| 03:48.39 | Dagmar | guestpants: These are college students, right? |
| 03:48.45 | guestpants | yup |
| 03:48.48 | Dagmar | ...and I'm assuming since it's a programming class they're male, right? |
| 03:48.51 | guestpants | i am as well |
| 03:49.01 | guestpants | yup, though we have females in the class |
| 03:49.02 | Dagmar | If you want guaranteed support, do a "hot or not" app. |
| 03:49.02 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 03:49.26 | Seerah | ~lart Dagmar |
| 03:49.26 | purl | crushes Dagmar with a full height scsi disk |
| 03:49.37 | Dagmar | A collaborative pornography rating system would probably be out of the question. |
| 03:49.47 | guestpants | haha |
| 03:49.48 | Dagmar | Beer on the other hand... |
| 03:49.52 | guestpants | all three have girlfriends |
| 03:49.58 | Dagmar | So? |
| 03:50.04 | Dagmar | I'll bet they didnt' delete all their porn |
| 03:50.08 | guestpants | one is too loyal to want that stuff |
| 03:50.14 | kd3 | delete? porn? |
| 03:50.17 | guestpants | the other is the lazy one, he won't even budge for porn, really |
| 03:50.19 | kd3 | what heresy is this? |
| 03:50.27 | Dagmar | So he's probably keeping his porn in a zip file named "nothing.zip" or something |
| 03:50.41 | Dagmar | kd3: Of course you delete porn |
| 03:50.41 | theorbtwo | Won't even budge for porn? |
| 03:50.49 | guestpants | sure, but i can't encourage him with porn |
| 03:50.55 | Dagmar | There's no sense in wasting hard disk space with it unless there's some emotional attachment. |
| 03:51.03 | Dagmar | Who wants to keep _used_ porno around anyway |
| 03:51.06 | guestpants | well my porn isn't very interesting to most people... its a unique genre |
| 03:51.08 | Dagmar | The internet will make more. |
| 03:51.22 | Dagmar | guestpants: So beer and/or pubs |
| 03:51.24 | guestpants | :p |
| 03:51.41 | Dagmar | Maybe a ramen recipe manager |
| 03:51.42 | guestpants | Dagmar: and again, we have a failure. Private religious college, we don't drink |
| 03:51.45 | guestpants | that one |
| 03:51.47 | guestpants | that might work |
| 03:51.49 | guestpants | :p |
| 03:51.54 | Dagmar | Tell it what condiments you have around and it'll tell you what kind of ramen you can make |
| 03:52.15 | Dagmar | I work at a uni. I know my college students. |
| 03:52.22 | theorbtwo | Bah. Real Men don't need recepies. |
| 03:52.33 | guestpants | Seerah: "I'm" making a kill tracking addon |
| 03:52.46 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Real men seldom leave their "comfort zone" with recipes |
| 03:52.51 | WobWork | "unqualified douchebag"? There's certification nowadays? |
| 03:53.12 | guestpants | as in he has a BS in CS |
| 03:53.28 | kd3 | coughs |
| 03:53.28 | WobWork | oh the terms are unrelated =P |
| 03:53.34 | guestpants | and isn't really a qualified professor, by experience or credentials |
| 03:53.56 | WobWork | I thought it was like Certificate in Douchebaggery or somesuch |
| 03:54.00 | guestpants | the only reason he can teach is because its a private college, and he knows the most about our solar car team |
| 03:54.06 | guestpants | oh |
| 03:54.07 | guestpants | <.< |
| 03:54.09 | guestpants | yeah |
| 03:54.11 | guestpants | no |
| 03:54.27 | guestpants | rolls alertness check. |
| 03:54.30 | guestpants | 1 |
| 03:54.33 | guestpants | crap... |
| 03:54.37 | WobWork | critical fail =( |
| 03:54.46 | guestpants | :p |
| 03:55.05 | guestpants | Seerah: did you want to know anything more about it? |
| 03:58.11 | guestpants | also: irssi.org check out the youtube vid on the most recent blog post |
| 03:58.25 | guestpants | it was hard for me to understand everything they said... but lolling commenced |
| 03:59.58 | Dagmar | I never knew IRC was so complex. |
| 04:00.30 | guestpants | i know, really... |
| 04:00.34 | guestpants | #channel on irc |
| 04:00.38 | guestpants | hm.. creative... |
| 04:00.43 | guestpants | and she speaks leet? |
| 04:00.44 | guestpants | .... |
| 04:01.43 | Dagmar | I liked the "can we get a screenshot?" |
| 04:01.48 | guestpants | yeah... |
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| 04:01.53 | guestpants | cause that will help with the trace... |
| 04:02.49 | guestpants | hm |
| 04:02.50 | Dagmar | I'm just astonished they couldn't get their special effects guys to stagger the supposed typing speed |
| 04:02.56 | guestpants | yeah |
| 04:02.59 | guestpants | brb |
| 04:03.13 | Dagmar | I also find it amusing as hell that they believe IRC is not being monitoried |
| 04:03.16 | Dagmar | er monitored. |
| 04:03.32 | Dagmar | The FBI put in boxes to log traffic at peering points what, nine or ten years ago? |
| 04:04.01 | Dagmar | Undernet said "Sure", DalNet said "UMMM SHORE!", EFNet said "Fucking do it yourself" |
| 04:05.18 | Jerub | i'm aware that less reputable networks actually had people whose entire job it was to monitor for FBI agents connecting to channels. |
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| 04:06.39 | Dagmar | Yeah, clearly those guys were skilled |
| 04:06.40 | Dagmar | heh |
| 04:06.43 | guestpants | i suppose I should set to work reading more of the book and learning what I need to |
| 04:07.03 | theorbtwo | OTOH, they've got boxes at the *IP* peering points that can listen for IRC traffic, independent of the IRC server. |
| 04:07.04 | Dagmar | Probably so |
| 04:07.04 | guestpants | if i want to get to bed at all tonight |
| 04:07.09 | Dagmar | There's MUCH worse languages than lua to deal with |
| 04:07.28 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Yes, that's what I'm sayin' |
| 04:07.30 | guestpants | i'm pretty comfortable with lua thankfully :) |
| 04:07.41 | Dagmar | Dal and Under both basically gave 'em cable runs |
| 04:07.52 | Dagmar | The EFnet people collectively told them to do their own sniffing work |
| 04:08.16 | guestpants | i'm a junior CS major, so i've done C++, C#, Objective-C, assembly, medusa machine language, java, php, LISP :(, mysql, perl and now lua |
| 04:08.20 | guestpants | :) |
| 04:08.21 | Dagmar | ...which was a matter of pragmatism I think. EFnet admins were still just beating script kiddies off the network 24/7 then |
| 04:08.40 | Dagmar | guestpants: Oh dude, learning lua will be a walk in the park then |
| 04:08.56 | guestpants | yup, as i said, i know most of it already :) |
| 04:08.59 | Dagmar | Between all those others as far as I can tell there's nothing new in lua you'll see aside from syntax |
| 04:09.09 | theorbtwo | OTOH, the FBI would have gotten rid of some of the script kiddies for them. ;) |
| 04:09.18 | guestpants | well the tables were new |
| 04:09.27 | guestpants | but since they were so similar to keyed/referential arrays it didn't make a difference |
| 04:09.32 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Good luck demonstrating any serious monetary loss because someone took over an IRC channel |
| 04:10.01 | Dagmar | guestpants: Yeah my boss got a little irked at me this week over some "PHP" I wrote. |
| 04:10.16 | Dagmar | I scribbled a bunch of function wrappers so I could write perl. ;) |
| 04:10.34 | Dagmar | SO many functions do the EXACT same thing under a different name |
| 04:11.02 | Dagmar | explode/implode == split/join pfft |
| 04:11.47 | Dagmar | He's all "You're supposed to be getting familiar with PHP, damnit" and my response was "Apparently I already know PHP" |
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| 04:12.46 | Seerah | guestpants: sorry, got a phone call and had to go AFK. I was just wondering if there were similar addons to point you to if you need to glance at code |
| 04:12.57 | guestpants | Dagmar: heh |
| 04:13.11 | guestpants | Dagmar: i didn't do too well on my last php project because we were designing webpages that made database queries |
| 04:13.27 | guestpants | Seerah: there's a very simple one called KillCount that i've been looking at |
| 04:13.37 | Seerah | *nod* - that's the one I was just trying to think of |
| 04:13.44 | guestpants | Seerah: I also know how the whole thing will work in Lua. Well, almost the whole thing |
| 04:14.01 | guestpants | i started my project by modding KillCount to learn about events |
| 04:14.08 | Dagmar | guestpants: I tend to very strongly avoid doing anything that incurs extra overhead for the sake of buzzwords so I almost exclusively deal in perl for web stuff |
| 04:14.19 | guestpants | i didn't start writing my own until i got an event captured, and a monsters name printed that i had just killed |
| 04:14.21 | Dagmar | They seem to be really enamored of how you can do PHP inline. |
| 04:14.39 | Dagmar | ...not like you can't do the same bloody thing in perl, it just doesn't make much sense with the way I code my output templates |
| 04:15.12 | guestpants | Dagmar: perl is epic win. I used to hate it, based on the fact that it SEEMED really boring... all this I learned from a seminar at a job fair given by Larry Wall himself |
| 04:15.22 | guestpants | he was talking about all the new things about perl, and I found it utterly boring as a sophomore |
| 04:15.37 | Dagmar | I'll let you in on a secret |
| 04:15.41 | Dagmar | He's slowly losing his mind. Hehe |
| 04:15.43 | guestpants | but in this class I'm in right now doing the wow addon project, we had to choose a lnaguage we didn't know and research it/learn it/present it to the class |
| 04:15.49 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 04:15.52 | guestpants | and i found out that i loved it |
| 04:16.11 | Shirik | tackles Seerah |
| 04:16.21 | Seerah | tickles Shirik |
| 04:16.27 | Dagmar | There's a degree to which all the new stuff in perl is about as much of interest to people coding in perl as the deep inner workings of TI calculator operating systems are to a bunch of accountants. |
| 04:16.41 | guestpants | heh |
| 04:16.49 | Dagmar | ...but it does make perl6 have some fantastic opportunities for people who like to write twisted alien code |
| 04:16.56 | guestpants | XD |
| 04:17.00 | Dagmar | I'm really looking forward to seeing someone complete the C parser |
| 04:17.01 | guestpants | Larry Wall is definitely an alien |
| 04:17.23 | Jerub | i feel sorry for larry. |
| 04:17.31 | Dagmar | Perl has made me mentally deliver a "f-you buddy" to everyone telling me I need to explicitly initialize variables |
| 04:17.34 | Dagmar | Hehe |
| 04:18.01 | guestpants | yeah |
| 04:18.08 | guestpants | <3 autodetecting type |
| 04:18.20 | theorbtwo | I don't think Larry's loosing it, but it's easy to loose track of the fact that perl 6 and perl 5 are different projects. |
| 04:18.30 | Jerub | he was living off remortgaging his silicon valley home before the GFC |
| 04:18.34 | Jerub | don't know what happened to him. |
| 04:18.57 | theorbtwo | There's lots of fascinating stuff happening in the perl 5 world, and likewise in the perl 6 world, but they are seperate. |
| 04:19.01 | Dagmar | Well, for me it's not so much the magical type conversions as it is that there's no real reason to have to explicitly define something as an empty string as a discrete step when in the next line you're going to use it with a function that only accepts strings |
| 04:19.26 | Dagmar | The two options are that either a) this should be a string, or b) the coder just screwed up |
| 04:19.39 | Dagmar | ...and there's a flag you can add that will make perl carp if 2 is a possibility |
| 04:20.05 | tem | gah |
| 04:20.11 | tem | the holy priests in my guild are bad |
| 04:20.19 | tem | their GS timing is terrible |
| 04:20.25 | Dagmar | tem: DPS not high enough? |
| 04:20.56 | Dagmar | If we wipe, I always blame the healers DPS |
| 04:21.15 | Dagmar | It's guaranteed to be low. |
| 04:21.46 | Dagmar | O'course, the guild leader's wife is awesome on her shaman |
| 04:22.11 | Dagmar | Healer dies while she's on DPS, and she'll swap some gear and heal anyway |
| 04:22.50 | Jerub | i did a h an badge run last night, and the last one to join was a dk called 'twilight', i armory, discover she's got ilvl174 gear (avg) and /w the party leader "10g to 10s twilight won't get more than 1kdps" |
| 04:23.07 | Jerub | ... turns out she had funny 'i's in her name, was perfectly adequately geared, and the party leader's siste.r |
| 04:23.14 | Dagmar | lol |
| 04:23.18 | Dagmar | BUSTED |
| 04:23.53 | Dagmar | I am having issues pushing data forcibly to GearScore. I WILL sort it out tho. |
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| 04:24.13 | Dagmar | The opportunity to mess with people running the addon is just too good to pass up. |
| 04:24.38 | Jerub | gearscore is sadness :( |
| 04:24.59 | Dagmar | Ah yes, but it's caching trick is pure deliciousness for the mischevious |
| 04:25.45 | Dagmar | I'm going to be spending a lot of time looking up warped things to be "wearing" |
| 04:26.00 | Dagmar | [Slimy Bone] however, is right at the top of my A-list. |
| 04:26.12 | Jerub | Dagmar: wait, what? |
| 04:26.16 | Jerub | Dagmar: tell me more XD |
| 04:26.20 | Dagmar | It caches gear info. |
| 04:26.49 | Dagmar | So, I'm looking to pollute that cache |
| 04:27.15 | Jerub | Dagmar: do you have to have the gear actually on you to pollute it? |
| 04:27.37 | Dagmar | I'm still not great enough in lua to just immediately get a 10,000 ft overview of what it's doing by glancing at it |
| 04:27.59 | Dagmar | Jerub: I see no reason why you'd have to have the gear |
| 04:28.10 | Torhal | You just send a false string. |
| 04:28.59 | Jerub | :D |
| 04:29.06 | Dagmar | More to the point, it appears you could be decked out entirely in Eaglebane Bracers from head to toe |
| 04:29.08 | Dagmar | It doesn't care. |
| 04:30.18 | Dagmar | So, if I want [Slimy Bone] as my ranged weapon... it's cool with that. |
| 04:31.04 | Dagmar | I'm just having trouble figuring out if there's a 100% way to force phony data that I'm not seeing yet |
| 04:32.48 | Dagmar | BTW people playing DA:O on the PC and have ludicrous load times, the .NET 4 beta fixes it |
| 04:33.25 | Dagmar | It was getting so bad over here I'd sometimes forget what I was going somewhere to do |
| 04:34.24 | guestpants | wow |
| 04:34.45 | guestpants | the slacker team member and consequently my roommate has a hang on loading screen out of the intro battle |
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| 04:35.00 | guestpants | he's never been able to get past it, 3 hours + didn't even do it |
| 04:35.04 | Dagmar | Something they were calling was knackered in .NET 3.5 and if you had the "send game feedback" option on, it would take MINUTES to zone |
| 04:35.04 | guestpants | he's on an ancient laptop though |
| 04:35.09 | guestpants | and his other loads are fine i think |
| 04:35.15 | Dagmar | ...and the longer you ran the thing the longer that time got. |
| 04:35.31 | guestpants | its irregular though, i think he loads all the other zones just fine |
| 04:35.39 | guestpants | *shrug* my laptop rapes DA so i'm good |
| 04:35.40 | guestpants | :p |
| 04:35.52 | kd3 | yay. wow works. no pain outside of the hoops umped through to get the nvidia driver working |
| 04:36.03 | Dagmar | Yeah so if your load times are over 20s then you know what to do about it now |
| 04:36.23 | Dagmar | kd3: There's not really any hoops involved in that |
| 04:36.34 | kd3 | bit more than usual in f12 |
| 04:36.43 | Dagmar | Mainly, nvidia's installer "just works" and it's not very hard to make it into an installable package |
| 04:36.47 | kd3 | like enabling execstack/fixing the initrd |
| 04:36.55 | Dagmar | Yuck |
| 04:37.15 | kd3 | that'll be fixed in a week or so, like it usually is |
| 04:37.22 | kd3 | that's what I get for upgrading on day0 |
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| 04:37.27 | Dagmar | wtf |
| 04:37.32 | Dagmar | You have to _enable_ execstack for that? |
| 04:37.53 | kd3 | http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia |
| 04:38.28 | Dagmar | OH... SELinux funneyr |
| 04:38.31 | Dagmar | er funnery |
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| 04:39.11 | guestpants | i've been too busy to care to try and get wow to run in gentoo on my desktop |
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| 04:39.18 | guestpants | and my laptop has it on a middle partition |
| 04:39.20 | guestpants | so wine gets confused |
| 04:39.34 | kd3 | damn it! they still haven't fixed the phasing bug |
| 04:39.41 | kd3 | fires off another annoyed email |
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| 04:41.07 | Thunder_Child | ~comfort kd3 |
| 04:41.07 | purl | There, there, kd3. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:41.58 | guestpants | aggggg |
| 04:42.03 | guestpants | i hate the food at my school |
| 04:42.04 | guestpants | >.< |
| 04:42.07 | guestpants | so greasy and gross |
| 04:42.17 | Thunder_Child | umm..so dont eat it? |
| 04:42.22 | guestpants | ... |
| 04:42.30 | guestpants | no other choice |
| 04:43.00 | Thunder_Child | there is always another choice |
| 04:43.40 | guestpants | the food here is prepaid for |
| 04:43.43 | guestpants | meal plan |
| 04:44.50 | theorbtwo | guestpants: You can only get prepared food, not groceries, on your plan? |
| 04:45.30 | Thunder_Child | you could always not eat |
| 04:45.57 | guestpants | theorbtwo: yup |
| 04:46.24 | guestpants | i can get twice as expensive food from a cafe that isn't opened very often and not during meal times, when i need to eat, but its food is also really greasy |
| 04:46.49 | guestpants | if i could get groceries on my meal plan, trust me, i would |
| 04:47.07 | guestpants | but i'm going to go there now to get a shake to wash down the icky flavor of grease |
| 04:47.18 | guestpants | :( |
| 04:47.58 | guestpants | later guys |
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| 05:12.04 | Thunder_Child | tekkub, i have a new addon for you |
| 05:12.08 | Thunder_Child | to make me |
| 05:15.28 | Shirik | TO POOP ON |
| 05:16.58 | Thunder_Child | not quite |
| 05:20.44 | Thunder_Child | pokes tekkub |
| 05:20.56 | Thunder_Child | looks like the code monkey is on a break |
| 05:24.51 | Thunder_Child | umm...lol http://gizmodo.com/5407012/judge-how-cooked-your-steak-is-based-on-video-transmission |
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| 05:27.26 | Thunder_Child | damit Shirik, why couldnt you be ME/EE |
| 05:29.55 | Shirik | why :( |
| 05:31.02 | Thunder_Child | i have some designs i want build |
| 05:31.18 | Thunder_Child | built* |
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| 05:33.52 | Shirik | I can do EE |
| 05:33.57 | Shirik | the ME part, probably not |
| 05:34.10 | Shirik | Anything digital I can easily do in EE |
| 05:34.16 | Shirik | I tend to have trouble when it comes to radio transmissions |
| 05:34.40 | Thunder_Child | well the thought i was having atm was electomagnetic induction |
| 05:34.47 | Thunder_Child | involved* |
| 05:34.49 | Shirik | eh |
| 05:34.52 | Shirik | transformers? |
| 05:35.08 | Thunder_Child | no, a transparent home power system |
| 05:35.24 | Shirik | transparent? |
| 05:36.47 | Thunder_Child | A||B|C A= Primary Wall B=induction C=item |=thin wall layers |
| 05:37.21 | Thunder_Child | 1 sec, AB |
| 05:37.27 | Shirik | Primary induction? |
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| 06:03.58 | Shirik | ~x de en pfundkuchen |
| 06:04.17 | Cairenn | pound cake == gud |
| 06:04.40 | Shirik | Someone in our guild is named poundcake |
| 06:04.49 | Shirik | he just made an alt named pfundkuchen and after a while I figured out why |
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| 06:06.57 | jpmorgan | mm cake |
| 06:07.07 | Cairenn | waits for the explanation |
| 06:10.38 | Shirik | Cairenn? |
| 06:10.53 | Cairenn | you said after a while you figured out why .... |
| 06:11.36 | Yssaril | Cairenn: pfundkuchen == poundcake (in horribly translated german) |
| 06:11.43 | Cairenn | yeah, I get that |
| 06:17.09 | guestpants | oh hi, didn't think anyone was alive |
| 06:17.16 | guestpants | and pound cake is delicious |
| 06:17.27 | guestpants | but even it can't get this disgusting grease flavor from the ribs i had tonight out of my mouth |
| 06:17.40 | guestpants | its not HEALTHY when the ribs are dripping yellow and orange grease... |
| 06:17.43 | Yssaril | mmmhhhh grease |
| 06:18.16 | Thunder_Child | anyway Shirik, back to what i was talking about. think of a thin layer of charged electromagnetic mesh just under the wall. paired with a reciver on a similar freq you could attach the power reciver anywhere on the wall and get power |
| 06:18.37 | guestpants | Thunder_Child: wireless charging? |
| 06:18.45 | Thunder_Child | not charging |
| 06:18.55 | guestpants | oh, cause wireless charging is fascinating |
| 06:18.55 | guestpants | :p |
| 06:18.57 | Thunder_Child | more like an electric socket |
| 06:19.08 | Thunder_Child | wireless electric socket |
| 06:19.38 | guestpants | but in the end, it causes the functionality of charging without a direct connection? |
| 06:19.48 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: its nice till you realize how much interfearance such a layout would cause and receive |
| 06:19.52 | Thunder_Child | charging implies storage |
| 06:20.11 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, you dont need it to extend far from the way |
| 06:20.13 | Thunder_Child | wall* |
| 06:20.36 | Shirik | Interference? |
| 06:20.42 | Thunder_Child | EMI |
| 06:20.44 | Shirik | It would run at 60Hz |
| 06:20.52 | Shirik | if it's causing interference there is something severely wrong |
| 06:21.05 | Shirik | however, the "mesh" part would cause a problem |
| 06:21.14 | Shirik | It would be better as a layer |
| 06:21.37 | Thunder_Child | eh..when i said mesh i meant not as a solid object |
| 06:21.44 | Thunder_Child | but yes, it would have it's own layer |
| 06:21.48 | Shirik | I really think a solid object would be better |
| 06:21.49 | Shirik | that's what I meant |
| 06:22.10 | Shirik | not because of the signal being better, but rather because you're going to cause other problems with a mesh |
| 06:22.12 | Thunder_Child | but i dont think it would need 100% coverage to work |
| 06:22.22 | Shirik | either it needs to be a solid layer or it needs to be a very weak mesh |
| 06:22.24 | Shirik | like |
| 06:22.32 | Shirik | on the order of holes of a square foot |
| 06:22.45 | Shirik | The problem isn't with the electricity |
| 06:22.47 | Thunder_Child | what problems are you seeing with a mesh then? |
| 06:23.03 | Shirik | A mesh would cause a side effect of self-inductance |
| 06:23.11 | Shirik | you would end up getting something similar to a faraday cage |
| 06:23.11 | guestpants | well as much as i'd love to participate in this convo i need to focus on homework and sleep |
| 06:23.24 | Shirik | so you would lose wireless signals in the mesh |
| 06:24.24 | Shirik | hm I think a purely solid material would do the same now that I think about it |
| 06:24.29 | Shirik | you have to do a very light mesh |
| 06:24.32 | Shirik | with large holes |
| 06:24.51 | Thunder_Child | well that would work then |
| 06:24.54 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt* |
| 06:25.06 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: whats wrong with traditional sockets? |
| 06:25.15 | Shirik | They're annoying? |
| 06:25.19 | Shirik | They're always in the worst possible place |
| 06:25.21 | Shirik | like behind a bed |
| 06:25.34 | Shirik | or wires aren't long enough |
| 06:25.39 | Shirik | or you don't have enough for lan parties |
| 06:25.39 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, that, and it looks aweseome when you dont see plugs |
| 06:25.45 | Shirik | and it looks awesome |
| 06:25.56 | Thunder_Child | with wireless info + plugs that go anywhere you could mount/hang things on the walls |
| 06:26.00 | Yssaril | how about a rail system that you can attach your "socket" too |
| 06:26.03 | Shirik | it may be resolvable, Thunder_Child |
| 06:26.09 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, raill is visual |
| 06:26.19 | Shirik | you could create a passive transciever |
| 06:26.25 | Shirik | which works through the mesh |
| 06:26.30 | Yssaril | not if you put it in your baseboard (which you will most likely already have) |
| 06:26.41 | Shirik | so in your mesh you would put these little antennas periodically |
| 06:26.42 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, again you are thinking in one dimension |
| 06:26.49 | Shirik | which work to send the waves through |
| 06:26.56 | Shirik | counteracting the faraday effect |
| 06:27.03 | Shirik | Though |
| 06:27.05 | Shirik | hm |
| 06:27.13 | Shirik | It could counteract the inductance too |
| 06:27.13 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:27.23 | Shirik | I guess you could put a filter on it, but that would consume power |
| 06:27.27 | Shirik | gah |
| 06:27.29 | Shirik | this is annoying |
| 06:27.33 | Shirik | Yes this is a true EE question :) |
| 06:27.37 | Thunder_Child | see |
| 06:27.46 | Thunder_Child | i have many ideas like this but no knowledge |
| 06:27.52 | Thunder_Child | sucks to be me |
| 06:27.58 | Thunder_Child | same with the CPU idea |
| 06:28.00 | Shirik | Well I see the theory and potential problems |
| 06:28.08 | Shirik | I just don't know how to go beyond that |
| 06:29.06 | Yssaril | i say take a system like that and put it under all highways then you would only need batterys in an electric car to get around locally and to the highway :) |
| 06:30.13 | Thunder_Child | but the power needed to run a car and the power needed to run a radio are 2 way different things |
| 06:31.27 | Yssaril | true |
| 06:31.41 | Yssaril | would still be cool though :) |
| 06:32.16 | Yssaril | also most likely never going to happen |
| 06:33.06 | Thunder_Child | which part? |
| 06:33.18 | Thunder_Child | because mine will, i dont give up this eaisly |
| 06:33.22 | Yssaril | induction electric cars :) |
| 06:33.35 | Thunder_Child | ah, yes, doubtful |
| 06:34.15 | Yssaril | would need massive funding to get under all interstates and then a massive push for cars to use the system |
| 06:35.59 | Shirik | [2. Trade] [Airxy] hmm why has the cost of everything gone up? Have the republicans taken over wow? |
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| 06:36.38 | Shirik | Anyway, that being said, induction on cars would be fairly difficult |
| 06:37.09 | Shirik | Cars (1) already have a severe problem of interference that needs to be managed, and (2) would have to deal with varying speeds, so you're going to get the doppler effect on your power |
| 06:38.18 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, unless cars have a capacitor so they simply chagre off the grid |
| 06:38.28 | Thunder_Child | charg* |
| 06:38.30 | Shirik | huh? |
| 06:38.31 | Thunder_Child | charge* |
| 06:38.39 | Shirik | It would have to be AC if you're talking about inductance |
| 06:38.51 | Shirik | so the cap would just charge and discharge unless you rectify it |
| 06:38.55 | Shirik | and even then you raise other problems |
| 06:40.02 | Thunder_Child | my point is that instead of going straight from ground to motor it goes to storage area first, that way the car simply sips power as it goes on, not tries to get power in a constant state |
| 06:40.46 | Shirik | actually the motor needs AC power |
| 06:41.00 | Shirik | AC->DC->AC is just additional loss |
| 06:41.07 | Shirik | you're better off trying to properly handle it for AC->Clean AC |
| 06:41.32 | Shirik | But really this isn't the real problem |
| 06:41.37 | Shirik | the problem is all the interference you'll get |
| 06:42.14 | Yssaril | Shirik: dc motor are fine :) |
| 06:42.18 | Thunder_Child | right, which is what i said in the begning |
| 06:42.21 | Shirik | You do not put a DC motor in a car |
| 06:42.36 | Shirik | Trust me. I'm working on a car right now using more innovative technologies than you can imagine. |
| 06:42.46 | Thunder_Child | but since cars go in a set pattern, rails in that system are better |
| 06:42.48 | Shirik | I have considered every possible combination of technology in the past year and a half |
| 06:42.55 | Thunder_Child | uhh..i doubt it Shirik |
| 06:42.58 | Shirik | ok fine |
| 06:42.59 | Thunder_Child | i can imagine a lot |
| 06:43.07 | Shirik | Every currently-implementable combination of technology |
| 06:43.11 | Yssaril | i would agree AC > DC though :) |
| 06:43.18 | Trela | Fact: Duke Nukem sound boards make every television show better. |
| 06:43.20 | Shirik | A DC motor will not have the throughput |
| 06:43.29 | Shirik | We already need 300V, and that's AC power |
| 06:43.52 | Shirik | I don't want to think the potential you need to maintain a decent amount of torque in a DC motor |
| 06:44.56 | kd3 | thinks back to the "War of Currents" |
| 06:45.01 | Shirik | Anyway Thunder_Child I wonder about the efficiency |
| 06:45.10 | Shirik | kd3: It's not really a problem with the current |
| 06:45.15 | Shirik | It's a problem with the motor |
| 06:45.23 | Shirik | AC motors are simply .... natural |
| 06:45.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, of what? |
| 06:45.26 | Shirik | DC motors are not |
| 06:45.32 | kd3 | 3-phase motors: <3 |
| 06:45.35 | Yssaril | also AC motors don;t need their brushes replaced every 3000 miles |
| 06:45.38 | kd3 | dc motors... not so much |
| 06:45.38 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Distributing that power |
| 06:45.41 | Shirik | Yssaril: Neither do ours |
| 06:46.08 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, uh..which topic now. cars or house? |
| 06:46.11 | Shirik | We are REQUIRED to make a car that can go without anything beyond ordinary (e.g., oil change) maintenance for at least 5 years |
| 06:46.13 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Cars |
| 06:46.17 | Shirik | The house would be much more efficient |
| 06:46.27 | Shirik | but to handle the entire interstate grid would eat up power just in the wires |
| 06:46.44 | Thunder_Child | with current implemented tech yes. |
| 06:46.51 | Thunder_Child | but there is some that would reduce it |
| 06:47.03 | Shirik | agree |
| 06:47.13 | Shirik | I wish we could get some really solid superconductors |
| 06:47.38 | kd3 | soon as we don't have to cool them down to LHe temps... |
| 06:48.27 | Yssaril | Shirik: what size car are you working on? |
| 06:48.44 | Shirik | Saturn Vue |
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| 06:49.31 | Yssaril | ahhh cool |
| 06:49.46 | Shirik | http://ecoeagles.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=8&Itemid=66 |
| 06:50.11 | kd3 | sighs at stupid CMS long urls |
| 06:51.15 | Shirik | I am the IDEA system team leader |
| 06:51.23 | Shirik | so I don't have to deal with all this mess of motors and junk |
| 06:51.26 | Shirik | but I still know of the problems |
| 06:53.55 | Shirik | actually I guess what I'm most worried about, Thunder_Child, is cross-inductance on the roads |
| 06:54.09 | Shirik | you're going to have this phenomenon that as cars drive over the wires, the inductance increases |
| 06:54.14 | Shirik | that's actually how traffic lights work |
| 06:54.25 | Shirik | and this changing will cause ripples in the signal |
| 06:54.34 | Shirik | combine this with cars all over the place and I'm not sure you can maintain a stable power signal |
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| 06:54.48 | Shirik | but again |
| 06:54.50 | Shirik | question for an EE, not me |
| 06:54.52 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, miltiple railes |
| 06:54.56 | Thunder_Child | rails* |
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| 06:55.29 | Shirik | So |
| 06:55.30 | Shirik | um |
| 06:55.43 | Shirik | somebody just ninjaed stuff from a guild bank, different guild |
| 06:55.48 | Shirik | transferred off the server to another server |
| 06:55.57 | Shirik | the name they chose on the destination server: mine |
| 06:56.12 | Shirik | am I supposed to be flattered or angry? |
| 06:57.08 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 06:57.28 | Shirik | >< |
| 06:59.05 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what would you sugges for CAD designs? |
| 06:59.09 | Thunder_Child | suggest* |
| 06:59.12 | Shirik | I love solidworks |
| 06:59.12 | Thunder_Child | program |
| 06:59.25 | Shirik | at the school though we use um |
| 06:59.42 | Shirik | CATIA for aircraft and something called I think NX for the car |
| 06:59.47 | Shirik | or maybe we use both CATIA and NX for the car |
| 07:00.00 | Shirik | but I love solidworks |
| 07:00.19 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: what do you need it for? |
| 07:00.24 | Thunder_Child | i also have an idea for a wheel that changes shape based on speed |
| 07:00.33 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, for CAD... |
| 07:00.38 | Shirik | oooh now there's a fun one |
| 07:00.41 | Shirik | fuck with ratios |
| 07:01.04 | Shirik | We actually have an interesting transmission in our car |
| 07:01.10 | Shirik | I'm not sure how much I can say, let me check |
| 07:01.49 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: hehe there are some things i wouldn't recommend solidworks for (architecture) |
| 07:01.50 | Shirik | sweet |
| 07:01.51 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-Mode_Hybrid |
| 07:01.58 | Shirik | So like, our transmission has 4 gears |
| 07:01.59 | Shirik | but |
| 07:02.08 | Shirik | we can actually use any ratio in between the 4 gears |
| 07:02.26 | Shirik | switch between any power split we want |
| 07:02.41 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, the faster the car the less contact the wheel would have with the ground creating less friction and more movement for the same ammount of energy |
| 07:02.59 | Shirik | that's an ME problem I'm not willing to tackle :P |
| 07:03.04 | Shirik | Have you considered applying to Toyota? |
| 07:03.06 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 07:03.22 | Thunder_Child | no, i have no...umm...brain stoped working |
| 07:03.43 | Thunder_Child | nothing to show that i can do that |
| 07:03.49 | Thunder_Child | i know there is a word for that |
| 07:03.55 | Shadowed | degree? experience? |
| 07:04.22 | Thunder_Child | both in this case |
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| 07:04.48 | Thunder_Child | not sure either was the word i was looking for though |
| 07:04.57 | kd3 | c.v.? |
| 07:05.13 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 07:05.31 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curriculum_vitae |
| 07:05.38 | Thunder_Child | oh, heh |
| 07:05.39 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: you would need a way to change it independant of speed though since you would want to go into (high tracktion mode) if you start sliding and when you break |
| 07:05.55 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/128984 |
| 07:06.06 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, well brakeing would of course change it |
| 07:06.17 | Thunder_Child | but for the most part it would conform to speed |
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| 07:07.42 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: how about changing the tire shape depending on how much pressure you have in it (should be easy enough to reduce pressure fast if need be) |
| 07:08.36 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril, dont forget it needs to be as mechanicly simple as possible since you dont want a car that has a high chance of breaking down |
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| 07:08.53 | Thunder_Child | KISS is the ultimite thought to live by |
| 07:10.19 | Thunder_Child | the problem Shirik is that there is no job in the world (that i have found) that has no pre-reqs other than 'inventive' |
| 07:10.54 | Trela | Actually, changing the shape of the tire would be a bad idea. Just making the suspension work smarter to keep better contact is the key. |
| 07:11.19 | Thunder_Child | Trela, the idea is at high speeds to have less contact |
| 07:12.49 | Trela | Practical example: My Jeep, I have 12.50" wide tires. They have less traction than the standard 9.50" wide tires. This is because the about of friction applied per square inch. Though, once you start getting lower than 9.50" there is no more benefit because the the limit of friction and resistance has been hit for the rubber material. |
| 07:12.56 | Trela | *amount |
| 07:14.13 | Thunder_Child | Trela, the problem is that you are making an assumption. i never said standard rubber tires. |
| 07:14.15 | Yssaril | Trela: depends on the surface you are on :) |
| 07:14.43 | Trela | :P |
| 07:15.13 | Trela | Like the rubber in tires for Formula 1 racing when it is raining. Super grippy, but wear out fast. |
| 07:16.18 | Trela | I just squeezed the side of my big toe and it oozed like a tube of tooth paste. |
| 07:16.32 | Thunder_Child | awesome |
| 07:16.35 | Thunder_Child | TMI |
| 07:16.37 | Thunder_Child | however |
| 07:16.41 | krka | hot |
| 07:17.46 | Trela | gets out the scalpel. |
| 07:25.25 | Shirik | Cairenn, I blame you for my disconnetion |
| 07:25.28 | Shirik | Oh! Iriel! |
| 07:25.29 | Shirik | hi |
| 07:25.32 | Shirik | I have questions for you |
| 07:25.39 | Cairenn | Shirik: I r teh powerful! |
| 07:25.39 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you DC'd? |
| 07:25.42 | Shirik | already discussed this with Thunder_Child but curious of your opinion |
| 07:25.46 | Iriel | I'm about to go to sleep, but ask away |
| 07:25.47 | Shirik | oh I guess you can't tell |
| 07:25.50 | Shirik | gah |
| 07:26.01 | Thunder_Child | no wonder you werent answering |
| 07:26.54 | Shirik | ok Iriel |
| 07:26.56 | Shirik | http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=7469 |
| 07:27.06 | Shirik | http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=7344 |
| 07:27.26 | Shirik | I could get a 2x extender and stick it on the 70-200 to get the 400 zoom |
| 07:27.30 | Shirik | if I really wanted to |
| 07:27.40 | Thunder_Child | with reduced quality |
| 07:27.42 | Shirik | I can't decide if the f/2.8 is worth it |
| 07:27.44 | Shirik | yes reduced quality |
| 07:28.08 | Iriel | Wouldn't the extender also eliminate most of the CPU features? |
| 07:28.15 | Iriel | Or have they got "smart extenders" now? |
| 07:28.31 | Thunder_Child | CPU? |
| 07:28.48 | Shirik | Supposedly so long as the lens speed is f/2.8 or faster, AF/IS still works |
| 07:29.01 | Trela | The extenders pass the functions of the lens on. |
| 07:29.09 | Thunder_Child | well some do, most dont |
| 07:29.36 | Iriel | Does the camera know the extender is there though? It seems there's more camera-lens interaction than ever these days for focus/exposure/etc |
| 07:30.04 | Shirik | I'm not exactly sure if the extender fakes the lens or if it reports itself as an extender with a lens |
| 07:30.09 | Thunder_Child | i think the camera knows, not sure about the lens. |
| 07:30.32 | Thunder_Child | though $5 says that if they are all one brand they all know. eg. all cannon |
| 07:30.36 | Thunder_Child | canon* |
| 07:31.03 | Trela | A lot of the camera functions can work with out a lens at all. Lighting, focusing, etcetera, all mainly work inside the camera. |
| 07:31.10 | Shirik | " With the EF 2x II, AF is possible with any EOS body if the lens has an f/2.8 or faster maximum aperture, and compatible Image Stabilization lenses maintain the IS feature when used with any current EOS camera. " |
| 07:31.14 | Shirik | That's all I know |
| 07:31.17 | Thunder_Child | focus is the lens |
| 07:31.44 | Shirik | Here's Thunder_Child's argument Iriel |
| 07:32.03 | Shirik | For small depth of field, I could photoshop in the effect |
| 07:32.17 | Trela | Erm, well, kind of hard to focus with out a lens. :P |
| 07:32.19 | Shirik | For low light conditions, this will typically be of nature shots (sunrise, etc.) so I can afford to leave the shutter open longer |
| 07:33.05 | Shirik | therefore he argues the f/2.8 isn't justified |
| 07:33.15 | Shirik | I have my natural distaste to false effects in photoshop |
| 07:33.27 | Trela | Shirik: Every day I wish I had some thing lower on my 70-200mm f/4. It takes amazing shots, but I would prefer the f/2.8. |
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| 07:33.36 | Thunder_Child | so would i |
| 07:33.40 | Shirik | but other than that I have no real good reason to go with f/2.8 |
| 07:33.41 | Thunder_Child | but Shirik doesnt use it like that |
| 07:34.23 | Iriel | Well, with a long zoom you want more light for quicker shots (IS helps quite a bit there, mind you) |
| 07:35.31 | Shirik | most, if not all, of my shots will be on a tripod |
| 07:35.39 | DWSR | Is there a way to get SexyCooldowns to show individual runes, or just the delay until the next rune of 1 type is active? |
| 07:35.56 | Shirik | but you're right, f/2.8 to f/4.5 is 1.3 stops |
| 07:35.59 | Shirik | that's a significant difference |
| 07:36.13 | Iriel | Are there non-IS lenses you're considering? Seems a waste if you'll mostly be using a tripod |
| 07:36.23 | Shirik | not really |
| 07:36.31 | Shirik | Do you think it's advisable? |
| 07:36.45 | Iriel | Depends on your definition of 'most' 8-) |
| 07:36.45 | Shirik | Most of the people I've talked to have argued that adding an extra layer is a good idea |
| 07:36.50 | Trela | Shallow depth of field is also good for making obstacles directly in front of you disappearing. |
| 07:37.00 | Iriel | Extra layer? |
| 07:37.04 | Shirik | Let me put it this way: I almost never take a shot without a tripod |
| 07:37.09 | Thunder_Child | only downside is faster draining of the batteries |
| 07:37.09 | Shirik | yeah tripod stablization + IS |
| 07:37.23 | Iriel | Hm, my IS lenses tend to advise turning it off when using a tripod |
| 07:37.53 | Iriel | Is the minimum focus distance (5.9 ft vs 4.3) an issue? |
| 07:38.03 | Shirik | hm |
| 07:38.06 | Shirik | doubtful |
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| 07:38.27 | Shirik | though |
| 07:38.31 | Shirik | 6 feet is a bit far |
| 07:38.41 | Shirik | I consider the butterfly shots I've taken |
| 07:38.44 | Shirik | they're a bitch |
| 07:38.54 | Shirik | and they'd probably be 6-20ft |
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| 07:39.03 | Shirik | but I guess I could always back up |
| 07:39.13 | Shirik | I don't plan on doing macro with this lens or anything |
| 07:39.31 | Thunder_Child | <3's macro |
| 07:39.38 | Shirik | Yeah but my 24-70 can handle that pretty well |
| 07:41.50 | Trela | DOF comparison, 70-200mm at f/4. I am about six feet from the first object and the second one is about six feet from the first. |
| 07:41.54 | Trela | http://www.nonamestudios.com/albums/japan02/IMG_2733w.jpg |
| 07:41.59 | Trela | http://www.nonamestudios.com/albums/japan02/IMG_2734w.jpg |
| 07:42.19 | Trela | Focused on the second first, then the first, second. :P |
| 07:42.52 | Iriel | I guess my only opinion is that I wouldn't go the extender route myself 8-) |
| 07:43.00 | Iriel | Buy both? |
| 07:43.03 | Shirik | ha |
| 07:43.03 | Iriel | grins. |
| 07:43.09 | Shirik | It's an option I considered |
| 07:43.13 | Shirik | however that's difficult for me |
| 07:43.17 | Iriel | Or, pick one -- and there's always eBay if you think it was the wrong one |
| 07:43.19 | Shirik | I have, however, considered an alternative |
| 07:43.24 | Trela | I hate apertures that change when zooming. >.< |
| 07:43.37 | Iriel | Is there anywhere local that you can rent them from for a day? |
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| 07:44.14 | Shirik | The place in WA would let me, I don't think around here though |
| 07:44.25 | Shirik | an alternative option is a non-telephoto one |
| 07:44.33 | Shirik | I could pick up the 100-400 and then get a fast 200 |
| 07:44.38 | Shirik | or pick up the 100-200 and a fast 400 |
| 07:44.48 | Shirik | er, not fast 400 |
| 07:44.53 | Shirik | just a 400 |
| 07:44.59 | Shirik | though an f/2.8 400 does exist |
| 07:45.02 | Shirik | but that is WAY out of my budget |
| 07:45.28 | Iriel | grins. |
| 07:45.37 | Iriel | sleeps now.. Good luck with your decision making. |
| 07:45.48 | Shirik | night |
| 07:45.58 | Trela | I can not find the lens I am thinking of. :( |
| 07:45.58 | Shirik | I think you're probably right, Thunder_Child, I'll get more use out of the 100-400 |
| 07:46.16 | Shirik | and if it comes down to it, I can always buy a fast 200, or perhaps down the road also pick up the 100-200 |
| 07:46.24 | Shirik | Canon does make a 200mm f/2 lens now which is absolutely sick |
| 07:46.48 | Trela | Oh, this one. http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=106&sort=7&cat=37&page=2 |
| 07:46.55 | Thunder_Child | so ya Shirik, if you find a job at toyota that has no pre-reqs other than 'imaginitve' i'll make sure to apply |
| 07:47.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:50.31 | Trela | Extenders work fine. Just have to remember to do all the math in your head to adjust your exposure. |
| 07:50.54 | Shirik | no |
| 07:51.01 | Shirik | I intend to let my camera adjust the exposure |
| 07:51.07 | Trela | Oh, the lazy way. :D |
| 07:51.14 | Trela | That works well too. |
| 07:51.20 | Shirik | how do you call that lazy |
| 07:51.53 | Trela | Most of the time I work with the camera in full manual. |
| 07:51.59 | Shirik | For no reason |
| 07:52.05 | Shirik | I don't understand people like that |
| 07:52.07 | krka | /j #camera-nerds |
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| 07:52.14 | Shirik | ~lart krka |
| 07:52.14 | purl | pushes the wall down onto krka whilst whistling innocently |
| 07:52.47 | krka | lulz i has a 200 megahertz lens! |
| 07:52.55 | Shirik | ~lart krka |
| 07:52.55 | purl | plops krka into a giant vat of herring |
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| 07:53.49 | Trela | My main camera is a Canon 40D and it rarely comes out of M. My other camera is an old black and white camera that has only manual. |
| 07:54.32 | Shirik | but you have no reason for that |
| 07:54.36 | Shirik | and I don't understand why people do that |
| 07:54.53 | Trela | I can adjust the exposure better than the camera can. |
| 07:54.53 | Shirik | news flash: Aperture priority and Shutter priority do actually work, and they also let you adjust exposures |
| 07:55.03 | Shirik | I disagree |
| 07:55.08 | Shirik | I blame placebo |
| 07:55.13 | TC-Away | i disagree as well |
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| 07:56.04 | Thunder_Child | even my camera teacher said so. not that we were allowed to use it however >.< |
| 07:56.04 | Trela | I call many years as working as a professional photographer to the table!!!11111one. |
| 07:56.04 | Trela | ...SWEET. |
| 07:56.04 | Shirik | I almost always shoot in aperture priority, and I will admit I tend to run at -1/3EV, but it comes out with great shots. When I know of special situations, I go ahead and adjust the exposure as necessary |
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| 07:56.29 | Trela | I caused a net split! |
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| 07:56.29 | Shirik | I only use manual exposure in extremely rare situations when the camera was just plain confused |
| 07:56.36 | Shirik | like when I was shooting down a canal at the night sky |
| 07:56.54 | Shirik | that was MF/ME but had to be |
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| 07:57.46 | Shirik | The -1/3EV is actually just a trick I picked up from someone else |
| 07:57.51 | Trela | I rather shoot in manual than take a picture in partially automated any thing then grumble about the camera trying to compensate for an overly dark black/bright white area. |
| 07:57.52 | Shirik | Thunder_Child will laugh at me because it's photoshop's fault |
| 07:58.17 | Shirik | It's easier to brighten a picture than to recover an overexposed shot |
| 07:58.26 | Shirik | so I do that intentionally |
| 07:59.11 | krka | this is all very fascinating but .... err who am i kidding :/ |
| 07:59.12 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, PS can seem to do both resonably well |
| 07:59.26 | Thunder_Child | we even bored repo |
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| 07:59.42 | Thunder_Child | well if you have a topic you would rather talk about krka, we dont care |
| 07:59.42 | Shirik | well there's more data floating around in shadows than there is in overexposure |
| 07:59.47 | Thunder_Child | now gtfo |
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| 08:01.39 | Trela | This is why I work in manual mode a lot. http://www.nonamestudios.com/albums/jeep/IMG_2714w.jpg |
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| 08:02.08 | Trela | Shots like that freak the camera out. |
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| 08:02.24 | Shirik | seems like you just need to adjust the evaluation mode to me |
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| 08:02.47 | Shirik | the majority of the center is just normally exposed |
| 08:03.09 | Shirik | but yes, I said there are rare conditions |
| 08:03.10 | Shirik | sure |
| 08:03.14 | Shirik | but ALWAYS shooting in manual? |
| 08:03.16 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 08:03.42 | Trela | I always do and I have a very low throw out rate. |
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| 08:05.09 | Trela | If it is a perfectly clear sunny day, I set the manual settings once and leave them there. No worries about them getting accidentally off. |
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| 08:06.09 | Shirik | I have a very low throw out rate too |
| 08:06.19 | Shirik | and I shoot almost exclusively in Av/Tv |
| 08:06.35 | Trela | I do use Av/Tv too. |
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| 08:26.08 | Lothaer | hey guys and gals |
| 08:26.11 | Lothaer | miss me? |
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| 08:29.21 | Fisker | naw |
| 08:30.17 | Thunder_Child | who are you again? |
| 08:30.22 | Thunder_Child | http://www.lazygamer.co.za/general-news/a-history-of-evony-ads-the-insanity-continues/ |
| 08:30.23 | Lothaer | very funny lol |
| 08:31.03 | Lothaer | so whats the latest goss? |
| 08:31.41 | Thunder_Child | depends...how long since you were last on? |
| 08:32.03 | Lothaer | on WoW not long lol on irc a while |
| 08:32.15 | Thunder_Child | were you here for Cairenn's 10? |
| 08:32.33 | Lothaer | nope |
| 08:32.41 | Cairenn | just shakes her head |
| 08:32.48 | Lothaer | 10 years in the gamming business huh |
| 08:32.49 | Lothaer | grats |
| 08:32.54 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 08:32.55 | Cairenn | no |
| 08:32.55 | Thunder_Child | well make sure to ask her, she loves talking about it |
| 08:32.57 | Lothaer | did you get long service leave? |
| 08:33.11 | zenzio | her 10th online stalker |
| 08:33.21 | Lothaer | ahhh kk |
| 08:33.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:33.30 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:33.42 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 08:33.51 | Lothaer | 5hrs to go |
| 08:34.09 | Fisker | that's not nice |
| 08:34.23 | Lothaer | you loved it Fisker |
| 08:34.49 | Lothaer | smells like fish now |
| 08:37.30 | Lothaer | wish i could get system info in WoW ie CPU/GPU temps |
| 08:39.26 | Thunder_Child | why? |
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| 08:41.07 | Lothaer | been having some gps issues, i took my gfx card out and cleaned it, it was covered with dust but ive still been having some fps issues, i got a Win7 GPU monitor gadget but itd be nice if i could see the info in Titan etc |
| 08:41.11 | zenzio | create a DirectX overlay that covers your whole screen, make it mostly transparent, and tint it in color based on the temperature |
| 08:41.32 | Thunder_Child | or you could just use yahoo widges and have a dashbaord overlay |
| 08:41.34 | Thunder_Child | which it does |
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| 09:06.13 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/112009/what_in_the_dna.jpg |
| 09:07.50 | Wobin | also http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/112009/not_the_best_show.jpg |
| 09:10.56 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:14.03 | Wobin | Fun fact of the day: "Beer Can" said with a british accent sounds like "Bacon" said with a Jamaican accent |
| 09:18.00 | Fisker | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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| 09:22.00 | Shirik | rages at Fisker |
| 09:23.02 | Shirik | lol @ http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/112009/what_in_the_dna.jpg |
| 09:24.41 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:25.03 | Cairenn | hahahaha @ not the best show |
| 09:27.36 | Fisker | don't you hate it when people fucking suck Shirik ? |
| 09:27.46 | Shirik | depends on who is doing the sucking |
| 09:28.04 | Shirik | generally people fucking tend to suck |
| 09:28.06 | Shirik | well, at least one |
| 09:28.08 | Fisker | way playing L4D2 |
| 09:28.16 | Fisker | And at the very last part in the very last campaign |
| 09:28.25 | zenzio | depends how much you pay Shirik |
| 09:28.38 | Fisker | Some guy decides to bunker in and while we wait for him he comes running and gets pwnt by special infected |
| 09:28.48 | Fisker | So another goes after him to save him and i follow so it doesn't go to shit |
| 09:28.57 | Fisker | And then a tank spawns and pwn us all just at the fucking end |
| 09:28.58 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:31.23 | zenzio | what are tanks doing in a zombie shooter? |
| 09:32.03 | Kalroth | they got kicked out of Hello Kitty online |
| 09:32.19 | zenzio | I didn't know Hello Kitty had tanks :-o |
| 09:32.25 | zenzio | that makes it double win |
| 09:32.30 | Kalroth | Well duh, they don't anymore |
| 09:32.51 | krka | nice link Shirik! |
| 09:32.59 | Shirik | NP! |
| 09:33.02 | Shirik | I obviously found it myself! |
| 09:33.05 | krka | i have a sudden urge to post it in many different channels |
| 09:33.29 | Shirik | krka |
| 09:33.36 | Shirik | it's not about cameras though |
| 09:33.39 | Shirik | it is not very interesting |
| 09:33.50 | zenzio | you're right, cameras aren't very itneresting |
| 09:33.52 | zenzio | or interesting |
| 09:34.03 | Shirik | you're not interesting! |
| 09:34.09 | Shirik | no wonder Cairenn doesn't like you |
| 09:34.11 | zenzio | this is news? |
| 09:34.21 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 09:34.43 | Shirik | ok maybe that was a low blow |
| 09:35.02 | Wobin | Fisker, http://www.zazzle.com/fffffffuuuuuuu_rage_coffee_mug-168769984395741150 |
| 09:35.24 | zenzio | this is IRC, you're supposed to make cheap shots :) |
| 09:35.39 | olafski | that's awesome wobin |
| 09:36.47 | olafski | zenzio: a tank is a special, rather big zombie |
| 09:37.17 | olafski | the zombie team gets one of them per round iirc (in L4D) |
| 09:37.50 | zenzio | oh... so we're not talking a main battle tank :-x |
| 09:38.19 | olafski | no ;) |
| 09:38.42 | olafski | this is more of a slow big melee zombie |
| 09:39.28 | olafski | .. I think |
| 09:39.32 | olafski | never played either left for dead game |
| 09:40.08 | zenzio | so one thing I don't get... Apple has this thing called the "Apple Push Notification Service", but they consistently refer to it as "APNs" in their documentation |
| 09:40.20 | zenzio | why is the S considered less worthy of being capitalised? |
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| 09:40.48 | tem | lol @ this line in the marking key to my project: |
| 09:41.04 | tem | For example, there are myriad ways of setting control lines – and from |
| 09:41.05 | tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:41.17 | tem | bah stupid copy paste |
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| 09:42.27 | zenzio | doesn't get it |
| 09:42.51 | tem | I guess the rest of the sentence would help |
| 09:43.18 | tem | "For example, there are myriad ways of setting control lines – and from experience (sigh), we know that many, many ways are poorly designed" |
| 09:46.01 | zenzio | what are control lines in this case? |
| 09:46.08 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill me |
| 09:46.43 | Kalroth | I'm guessing it's lines they want to control! |
| 09:46.45 | tem | mostly 1 bit flags that control the behavior of the system |
| 09:47.00 | tem | a few of them are a few bits wide |
| 09:47.20 | tem | it's a very low-level machine simulation |
| 09:47.30 | zenzio | I see |
| 09:48.39 | Kalroth | I should make a ½bit cpu, 2 ops to set one bit and 4 bits per byte |
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| 10:00.28 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2raQgmg0UxU |
| 10:00.40 | Wobin | (nsfw) |
| 10:00.52 | Wobin | but technically impressive =P |
| 10:14.05 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:18.02 | Fisker | i sneezed Wobin |
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| 10:31.41 | Shirik | Kalroth: There is no unanimously agreed-upon size of a byte |
| 10:31.47 | Shirik | there could be a 4-bit byte |
| 10:32.14 | Kalroth | sure, but could there be a ½bit bit? |
| 10:32.17 | mitch0 | hence the name "octet" |
| 10:32.43 | Shirik | how would you have a half of a bit, Kalroth |
| 10:33.01 | olafski | it has only one value, shirik :) |
| 10:33.08 | Kalroth | it's always 0 or 1 |
| 10:33.29 | Shirik | so it's ROM |
| 10:33.40 | Kalroth | no, you can write it |
| 10:33.54 | ZorbaTHut | you can certainly count and use fractional bits, although they are indivisible in storage and data transfer applications |
| 10:33.55 | Kalroth | but you can only write the same value as it is |
| 10:34.03 | zenzio | it's write-only memory. You can't check its value, but it's lightning fast at storing |
| 10:34.45 | Shirik | So if it's a 1 |
| 10:34.48 | Shirik | I can only write a 1 |
| 10:34.53 | Kalroth | yeah |
| 10:35.03 | Shirik | but what if I want a 0? |
| 10:35.10 | Shirik | I can't use that bit? |
| 10:35.14 | Kalroth | then you'll have to find another ½bit to write |
| 10:35.21 | Shirik | 1/2 bit |
| 10:36.37 | olafski | you're thinking in normal binary too much |
| 10:36.44 | olafski | you shouldn't even want to use a 0 |
| 10:36.55 | Kalroth | oh right, it's 1 or nothing |
| 10:37.03 | Kalroth | well, 1 or not-1 |
| 10:37.14 | Kalroth | not-1 isn't 0 though, it could be 0, but it's not |
| 10:37.28 | zenzio | we should start a new architecture where every bit is either Good or Evil |
| 10:37.46 | olafski | too late zenzio |
| 10:37.49 | olafski | peter already did it |
| 10:38.01 | zenzio | :( |
| 10:39.15 | tem | My professor keeps saying that the bit is "asserted" when set and "deasserted" when not set |
| 10:39.28 | tem | is this weird or is it just the terminology from the electrical side? |
| 10:40.23 | zenzio | you should tell him to be careful with that since some assertions can be optimised away by the compiler |
| 10:40.35 | tem | there is no compiler here |
| 10:40.44 | zenzio | ... it was a joke |
| 10:40.52 | tem | and it was bad |
| 10:40.55 | tem | so I killed it |
| 10:41.02 | tem | the question stands, btw |
| 10:41.07 | tem | :P |
| 10:41.10 | zenzio | that's no fair, we have bad jokes here all the time |
| 10:41.25 | tem | yes but you forget that one of my titles of Killer of Jokes |
| 10:42.54 | zenzio | oh, sorry, all I saw was "tem, Champion of the Naaru" |
| 10:43.08 | tem | I actually don't have that title on any of my characters |
| 10:43.17 | tem | my druid still has the Signet of Earth in his bank, though |
| 10:43.42 | zenzio | remind me what that is? |
| 10:43.53 | tem | the drop from Gruul |
| 10:44.00 | tem | which was part of that chain |
| 10:44.05 | zenzio | oh, yeah |
| 10:44.15 | tem | I never got around to doing the shattered halls run once it wasn't required |
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| 10:49.02 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:49.42 | zenzio | moans suggestively in response |
| 10:49.49 | tem | Remember when you could have two titles active? |
| 10:49.55 | tem | a prefix and a suffix |
| 10:50.03 | zenzio | was that possible at some point? |
| 10:50.21 | tem | it was possible all of BC and for a short time during LK alpha |
| 10:50.42 | zenzio | really? I either never knew or forgot :-o |
| 10:50.47 | tem | Knight Championl tem, Hand of A'dal |
| 10:50.53 | zenzio | I would have loved Twilight Vanquisher Zenzio of the Frozen Wastes |
| 10:51.10 | tem | you couldn't select titles in BC so it didn't really matter |
| 10:51.42 | tem | breifly in LK alpha (and maybe a little into beta, I don't remember) there were 2 dropdowns to select your prefix and suffix |
| 10:51.59 | Wobin | I remember when we put in titles and surnames on the discworld MUD |
| 10:52.04 | Wobin | we had class specific titles |
| 10:52.05 | zenzio | you could select titles in BC; perhaps not at launch (don't remember), but certainly somewhere along the line |
| 10:52.20 | Wobin | so someone made Fingers Clarance UpTheYinYang |
| 10:52.47 | tem | zenzio, I'm *pretty* sure the ability to choose your title didn't come until 3.0 |
| 10:52.57 | tem | oh wait no |
| 10:52.57 | Wobin | in retrospect, "Fingers", while a fine rogue name could have been chosen better |
| 10:53.10 | tem | you could only select your prefix title before 3.0 |
| 10:53.27 | tem | and your "best" suffix was always visible? |
| 10:53.44 | tem | man I don't remember how |
| 10:53.46 | tem | now* |
| 10:54.30 | zenzio | I don't remember the details either |
| 10:54.37 | Fisker | so what are you going to do to stop me zenzio ? |
| 10:54.53 | zenzio | just the annoying bug for a while that would reset your title every time you zoned, no matter how much you set it to "none" |
| 10:55.02 | zenzio | Fisker: why would I stop you? |
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| 10:57.16 | Gnarfoz | I don't recall suffix and prefix titles being visible at the same time, on live, ever |
| 10:57.26 | Gnarfoz | only PTR 3.0 had that, IIRC |
| 10:57.52 | Gnarfoz | I know I have screenshots of that at home, somewehere |
| 10:57.54 | Gnarfoz | -e |
| 10:58.08 | Fisker | you wouldn't since you can't zenzio |
| 10:58.10 | Fisker | that's the point |
| 10:58.11 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 10:58.22 | Fisker | i actually liked that |
| 10:58.32 | Fisker | Though i guess they didn't want it bcause it would be too long a name |
| 11:00.05 | Gnarfoz | obvious |
| 11:00.14 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:00.57 | Gnarfoz | I still want my Doctor and "of Argus" titles :X |
| 11:01.22 | tem | of Argus? |
| 11:01.31 | tem | I don't remember that title at all |
| 11:01.45 | tem | Doctor was realm first First Aid 450, right? |
| 11:01.50 | zenzio | think so |
| 11:01.56 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 11:02.04 | Gnarfoz | of Argus is RF Draenei 80 |
| 11:02.12 | tem | oh I figured that one was Of the Exodar |
| 11:02.14 | Gnarfoz | was, rather |
| 11:02.18 | tem | like the others |
| 11:02.38 | Gnarfoz | hmm, I'm actually not sure anymore, it's been a year |
| 11:02.54 | tem | I didn't really pay attention to the race RF |
| 11:03.02 | tem | all I cared about was the class RF |
| 11:03.08 | tem | of the Ebon Blade |
| 11:03.11 | tem | Archmage |
| 11:03.13 | tem | Archdruid |
| 11:03.30 | tem | yes please |
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| 11:04.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah, some fucker who account shared snatched RF paladin :X |
| 11:04.41 | zenzio | what was the realm-first warrior title again... |
| 11:04.46 | tem | not a clue |
| 11:04.59 | tem | I only remember the ones for the classes I planned to ahve at 80 |
| 11:05.16 | tem | I wasn't anywhere near RF on any of my toons, but if those titles had gone in, I'd have probably tried for it |
| 11:05.36 | Fisker | why would you account share Gnarfoz ? |
| 11:05.44 | Gnarfoz | I wouldn't |
| 11:05.52 | tem | so someone can be on your toon for 24h a day leveling |
| 11:06.00 | Fisker | But why would you? |
| 11:06.03 | tem | if you never have to sleep, you can get to 80 quite fast? |
| 11:06.11 | Fisker | i can be on my toon for 24h a day leveling |
| 11:06.18 | tem | grats? |
| 11:06.22 | tem | most people can't |
| 11:06.27 | Fisker | neither coul di! |
| 11:06.30 | Fisker | could* |
| 11:06.32 | Fisker | :D |
| 11:06.38 | Fisker | i still managed realm first |
| 11:06.59 | Fisker | doesn't take that long really |
| 11:08.18 | Gnarfoz | zenzio: * Warbringer NAME - first warrior to reach 80 |
| 11:08.51 | tem | I think Crusader was the paladin title |
| 11:08.52 | Gnarfoz | and it would indeed have been of Argus |
| 11:08.53 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.56 | zenzio | imagine what that would have been like... "Warbringer Zenzio the Diplomat" |
| 11:09.04 | Gnarfoz | yep, Crusader it would have been ^^ |
| 11:09.21 | Gnarfoz | the other race firsts were also not identical to the Argent Tournament titles |
| 11:09.27 | Gnarfoz | at least, not all of them |
| 11:09.40 | tem | mind pasting the ones that were different? |
| 11:10.35 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/102009/yall_vs_you_all.jpg |
| 11:11.00 | Gnarfoz | tem: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6986710520&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 11:11.20 | Gnarfoz | post #4 in there, couldn't find a better source right now |
| 11:11.41 | Gnarfoz | MMO-C probably still has them all in their news archives |
| 11:12.18 | tem | lol Iron Chef |
| 11:12.43 | tem | the Lion-Hearted for stormwind is a pretty fucking awesome title |
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| 11:13.03 | zenzio | yeah, I wanted that :-/ |
| 11:13.49 | tem | I would server transfer to get that title |
| 11:14.14 | tem | (Even though new servers have transfers locked for probably that reason) |
| 11:14.24 | olafski | and scarab lord ,) |
| 11:14.36 | tem | yeah sarab lord is a pretty awesome title |
| 11:14.55 | tem | I know 3 of them. all of them have quit the game >.> |
| 11:15.02 | zenzio | I would have liked to have an alt called Captain Obvious |
| 11:15.29 | tem | :) |
| 11:16.31 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=102009&p=lynx-vs-dogs.jpg |
| 11:16.34 | Wobin | aww |
| 11:16.51 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 11:18.16 | Cruciformer | Anyone on that was part of the ScrollFrame discussion I missed the other day? |
| 11:19.12 | Cruciformer | or anyone that has any scrollframe experience at allfor that matter |
| 11:20.06 | tem | real or fake? |
| 11:20.22 | Cruciformer | real or fake what? |
| 11:20.28 | tem | scrollframe |
| 11:20.49 | Cruciformer | CreateFrame ("SCROLLFRAME", ...) ... that real or fake? :) Not using FauxScrollFrame |
| 11:21.05 | tem | FSF is evil and should never be used by anyone |
| 11:21.06 | tem | ever |
| 11:21.14 | Cruciformer | i agree |
| 11:21.35 | Cruciformer | well I just wanted to share an observation I made and see if Im on crack or if thats really how scrollframes work. |
| 11:21.36 | tem | FSF can be accomplished by a Slider with proper min/max values |
| 11:21.40 | haste | parents a FSF to tem. |
| 11:21.53 | Cruciformer | I had a hell of a time becuase the child frame I was creating, the one I used sf:SetScrollChild() on |
| 11:22.05 | tem | yeah, you're using a real scrollframe |
| 11:22.11 | Cruciformer | was being relatively sized using SetPoint ("TOPLEFT") etc ... |
| 11:22.17 | tem | which is something I've never had the occasion to do |
| 11:22.38 | Cruciformer | and that absolutely failed to work correctly. If I used sf:SetVerticalScroll() it just would not work. |
| 11:22.59 | Cruciformer | However when I sized the child window absolutely, using both SetWidth() and Setheight(), then everything started working. |
| 11:23.43 | Cruciformer | so it appears, annecdotally, that the child window needs to be absolutely sized, not relative to the containing srollframe or some other frame. |
| 11:24.30 | Cruciformer | and I just wondered if anyone else had experienced this so I can maybe beef up the entry on scrollframes on wowprogramming. |
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| 11:48.21 | Adys | hey Shirik |
| 11:51.13 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: it needs to have a set rect |
| 11:51.23 | jnwhiteh | since it essentially gets "parented/anchored" to the scroll frame by the C code |
| 11:51.29 | jnwhiteh | so whatever relative stuff you have doesn't work |
| 11:51.37 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: yeah Im updating the entry on wowprogramminhg now. |
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| 11:53.51 | Adys | SHIRIK. |
| 11:54.41 | Adys | dammit |
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| 11:54.52 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iIOmubk5sA&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:54.55 | Wobin | gory |
| 11:54.57 | Wobin | but kinda awesome |
| 11:56.24 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: What came as a surprise to me was that both dimensions had to be absolute. I was trying to set the width relative to the scrollframe, using topleft and topright, then setting the height absolutely (so the child size would change if the parent window size changed). Did not work. |
| 11:56.55 | tem | just use an OnSizeChanged for the parent window, I guess |
| 11:57.26 | Cruciformer | tem: yeah exactly. Thast how to get arund it, but I was hoping to set the topleft/topright anchors. |
| 11:57.53 | Cruciformer | anyway Ive made some clarification on wowprogramming for you to review jnwhiteh |
| 11:58.53 | Fisker | this is my disagreeing face Wobin |
| 11:59.32 | Wobin | Fisker, It looks like your constipated face |
| 11:59.54 | Cruciformer | you missed the perfect opportunity to say it looked like his disagreeable face :P |
| 12:00.43 | Fisker | omg i'm killing you Wobin |
| 12:01.42 | Wobin | It looks like you're not. |
| 12:01.48 | Wobin | How can you tell the difference some days, Fisker? |
| 12:02.10 | Adys | I got an awesome thing on wave |
| 12:02.14 | Adys | and shirik is online on wave |
| 12:02.15 | Adys | but |
| 12:02.18 | Adys | shirik is sleeping =( |
| 12:02.42 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: well think about the fact that it's inside a box, that doesn't have any information about stuff outside it.. that's whats really happening. |
| 12:02.53 | Wobin | Adys, what is it? |
| 12:02.53 | tem | sanity check: a and a == a, a or a == a, a xor a == 0 |
| 12:03.08 | Adys | Wobin: its awesomeness itself |
| 12:03.24 | Wobin | You could show me! |
| 12:03.37 | Adys | unzips |
| 12:04.15 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: Yeah I makes sense now that I figured it out but I beat my head agains the wall for hours trying to figure why it wasn't working. |
| 12:04.27 | Wobin | squints |
| 12:04.29 | Wobin | Is that it? |
| 12:05.09 | Cruciformer | tem: you are sane btw. |
| 12:05.14 | tem | thanks |
| 12:05.35 | Adys | Wobin: No, I'm too sexy to show it all |
| 12:05.38 | Cruciformer | any number xor itself = 0 |
| 12:05.58 | Wobin | squints more |
| 12:06.04 | Cruciformer | used to be a quick way to optimize setting zero. XOR EAX,EAX instead of MOV EAX, 0 |
| 12:06.07 | Wobin | Adys, sure. |
| 12:06.51 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/091117.html |
| 12:07.02 | Cruciformer | which IIRC results in a 1-byte insn instead of a 5-byte one. |
| 12:09.35 | Fisker | puts on binoculars |
| 12:11.12 | Fisker | so what is it? |
| 12:11.13 | Wobin | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/090805.html |
| 12:12.36 | Fisker | flaky wave is flaaakyyyyyy |
| 12:14.08 | tem | oh god wow |
| 12:14.08 | tem | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egcXvqiho4w&fmt=18 |
| 12:14.12 | tem | (NSFW) |
| 12:15.10 | krka | youtube not safe for work? |
| 12:16.33 | tem | this video probably won't last long on youtube |
| 12:16.36 | tem | but it's pretty awesome |
| 12:16.43 | tem | also, http://www.wimp.com/catperch/ |
| 12:17.04 | krka | meh can't be bothered to register |
| 12:17.07 | krka | what's it about? |
| 12:17.14 | tem | it's a 16bit cartoon |
| 12:17.45 | cbreak | 32k colors? |
| 12:17.50 | cbreak | most cartoons have much less |
| 12:18.07 | tem | I mispoke |
| 12:18.09 | tem | 8bit |
| 12:18.57 | krka | 1bit cartoons ftw! |
| 12:19.05 | tem | *glare* |
| 12:19.10 | krka | 0bit cartoons leave the most for the imagination though |
| 12:21.52 | Fisker | i would've fu'd |
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| 12:23.51 | Fisker | LOLWAT |
| 12:24.38 | Fisker | nice |
| 12:24.42 | Fisker | "I made the comment to prove a point within a question towards Blizzard. If i wanted some Childish response i'd of asked a random child on the street." |
| 12:24.50 | Fisker | Blizzard reponse = Same as the player |
| 12:24.56 | tem | lol nice |
| 12:24.56 | Fisker | OP: "Thank you for Replying." |
| 12:24.58 | tem | link? |
| 12:25.06 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11587169711&sid=1&pageNo=2#21 |
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| 12:25.13 | Fisker | He deleted most of it |
| 12:25.15 | Fisker | Because he got pwnt |
| 12:25.22 | Fisker | But he asked about the restoration limit |
| 12:25.37 | Fisker | he was told there was no limit but it was determined on a case by case basis |
| 12:25.47 | Fisker | And that made him sad :( |
| 12:25.58 | Fisker | But of course when a blue posts it, it's alright |
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| 12:28.17 | tem | that's odd |
| 12:28.38 | tem | I had a GM tell me a LONG time ago that there WAS a restoration limit of 2 incidents per account |
| 12:28.43 | tem | the policy must have changed |
| 12:28.52 | tem | or the GM was mistaken |
| 12:29.05 | tem | this was like Learning Onyxia days |
| 12:29.10 | tem | so it could easily be either |
| 12:29.14 | Wobin | lol http://translate.google.com/#sv|en|I%20love%20sweden |
| 12:29.15 | cbreak | when I asked a GM to reassign an item I gave to the wrong person as master looter |
| 12:29.23 | cbreak | he said "Ok, but this is a ONE TIME ONLY occurence" |
| 12:29.32 | ZorbaTHut | at worst I suspect there's a restoration limit per-month or something |
| 12:29.39 | Fisker | In the past there was a 1-time restoration limit |
| 12:29.49 | Fisker | or that's how it was advertised |
| 12:29.54 | Fisker | was changed pretty quickly though |
| 12:29.56 | Trela | Basically if you abuse the service you get told to GTFO. |
| 12:29.57 | tem | might have been an intentional lie |
| 12:30.17 | tem | to get people to just suck it up when it's not really that important |
| 12:32.02 | Wobin | for Fisker http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/092009/small_fffuuu%20breakfast.jpg |
| 12:32.07 | Aelo | Fisker: what item did he lose? |
| 12:32.12 | Trela | It probably was done that way on purpose. The ISP I worked for in the past did the same sort of idea. "Can you undelete these emails?!" *Glances at the account, sees ten bajillion requests for this.* "Ah, sorry, they already process through the deletion queue." |
| 12:32.30 | Trela | *processed |
| 12:32.58 | Legorol | As far as I know, for a long long time now GM restoration limits were flexible and evaluated on a case by case basis. In other words, you get help, but Blizz reserves the right to tell you to fo |
| 12:33.34 | bleeter | http://www.redbubble.com/people/wolfcat/t-shirts/4153394-1-i-found-the-higgs-boson |
| 12:33.41 | Trela | <GM> Waisting my time to restore BELLY LINT?! |
| 12:34.52 | krka | this one makes no sense: http://translate.google.com/#en|de|hiflyer |
| 12:35.07 | bleeter | tem: yeah, they kinda fudge the truth about how many restores they do |
| 12:35.32 | Fisker | idk Aelo |
| 12:35.36 | Fisker | he never said |
| 12:35.39 | Fisker | only raged on the forums |
| 12:35.43 | Fisker | i.e. lawsuit, etc. |
| 12:38.13 | tem | oh god lol |
| 12:38.21 | tem | he invoked lawsuit over something that trivial? |
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| 12:39.59 | tem | lolfail |
| 12:40.01 | Jerub | man, our guild killed razorscale moments before the shutdown, we just asked nicely for the loot we saw on the boss but hadn't had time to loot off him. |
| 12:40.20 | tem | Notepad++ doesn't recognize EOF as a word barrier |
| 12:40.40 | zenzio | so there's this banner ad that shows a sleeping woman with the thought bubble "Do you dream about moving to the USA?", and the text "Wake up!" to the right, followed by a "Register online now" button. I'm thinking this would be a pretty accurate ad if you ignore the last button |
| 12:40.40 | industrial | obligatory statement involving vim |
| 12:40.45 | tem | so it fails to syntax highlight anything at the end of the file |
| 12:41.11 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-11-18-n18.html |
| 12:41.25 | tem | industrial, vim is a powerful editor, but I want something more friendly |
| 12:41.50 | tem | I don't feel like relearning everything I know about a "word processor" just to use it |
| 12:42.02 | industrial | I use only a msall percentage of vim but I'm so stuck in HJKL-mode it feels very inefficient to do anything with the arrow keys |
| 12:42.18 | tem | who uses arrow keys anyway? |
| 12:42.24 | industrial | to move the cursor? |
| 12:43.21 | industrial | vim misses IDE like features that I would like to use, vimscript/plugins are usually pretty dodgy :P so I'm looking for alternatives |
| 12:43.24 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/092009/moral_dilemma.jpg |
| 12:43.57 | industrial | looool |
| 12:44.04 | industrial | Wobin: hoe do people make this stuff up |
| 12:44.06 | industrial | how* |
| 12:44.43 | Trela | industrial: That is based off the real book. |
| 12:44.59 | industrial | o_O |
| 12:45.02 | Jerub | industrial: wait, what? |
| 12:45.10 | olafski | what does imprinted mean in this context? |
| 12:45.31 | Wobin | Twue Wuv? |
| 12:45.41 | Wobin | or whatever the fuck Stephanie Meyer thought up |
| 12:46.37 | Trela | It is really the plot from Twilight. |
| 12:46.59 | Wobin | truly Twilight is a blight upon literature |
| 12:47.22 | zenzio | Wobin: you're saying it should be vanquished? |
| 12:47.31 | Wobin | indeed |
| 12:48.05 | jnwhiteh | industrial: i don't use h and l, just j and k.. i use arrows =/ |
| 12:48.07 | Trela | Twilight: Pedophilia, Rape, Etcetera. |
| 12:49.06 | zenzio | Trela: everything one needs from quality entertainment, and none of the nasty controvertial things like killing innocent Russians |
| 12:49.50 | Trela | zenzio: Yeah. I can understand using them in some form of entertainment. Twilight has managed to use them in ways of epic failure. |
| 12:50.48 | zenzio | actually I was just expressing my distaste for the people who all of a sudden find MW2 too controversial, while equally bad (or worse) things have been going on in games for ages |
| 12:50.50 | Wobin | ahaha http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/092009/thats_no_moon.jpg |
| 12:50.52 | zenzio | and in movies, etc |
| 12:51.40 | krka | MW2? |
| 12:51.54 | olafski | hahahahaha wobin |
| 12:51.54 | zenzio | Modern Warfare 2 |
| 12:54.03 | krka | oic |
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| 13:02.48 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1wryV2mGHc |
| 13:10.33 | industrial | jnwhiteh: why no h and l? |
| 13:10.56 | jnwhiteh | dunno |
| 13:10.57 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 13:11.16 | industrial | I use o, O a, A, i, I, g and G a lot too |
| 13:11.39 | industrial | and {} are nice (not []) for moving to the next paragraph/codeblock |
| 13:11.56 | industrial | and ctrl-] is the same sequance as escape, puts you back in normal mode |
| 13:12.08 | industrial | s/que/que/ |
| 13:12.11 | industrial | .. |
| 13:12.24 | industrial | typoing a correction :D |
| 13:12.50 | olafski | the way you use your text editor sounds like the maths I'm doing for my MSc oO |
| 13:13.31 | industrial | olafski: it has modes, you press i to enter insert mode to enter text, otherwise most keys are 'text objects' used to efficiently move and edit the document. |
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| 13:13.49 | industrial | move through* |
| 13:17.02 | olafski | yeah I've used vim a couple of times |
| 13:17.13 | olafski | mostly on linux systems that I was installing and thus didn't have a proper text editor yet ;) |
| 13:17.22 | industrial | hehe |
| 13:17.37 | olafski | I heard vim is really good if you get used to the keys |
| 13:17.56 | industrial | yes :p if I use anything else I feel .. disabled? |
| 13:18.09 | cbreak | :q! |
| 13:18.10 | Cruciformer | vim / vi is without a doubt one of the best editors out there. that and emacs. |
| 13:18.13 | olafski | I use (q,a,I,O,q') to indicate transitions in my transition systems though ;) |
| 13:19.47 | cbreak | there's a nice Firefox extension. Vimperator. |
| 13:19.55 | cbreak | keyboard navigation is rather nice. |
| 13:20.11 | industrial | yeh its awzum |
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| 13:41.33 | Fisker | http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/138481-1/Nigerian_boat.jpg <-classic nigerian scam |
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| 14:05.57 | zenzio | peppy, I've realised what one of your cat problems is |
| 14:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | The fact that I have them? |
| 14:06.26 | zenzio | your cats don't read Facebook |
| 14:06.49 | Lopeppeppy | That would help? |
| 14:07.31 | zenzio | no, I'm saying it would help if you told them instead of writing it to them |
| 14:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | You think I wasn't telling Moose all of this as she was doing it? *laugh* |
| 14:08.06 | zenzio | she looks a lot like my cat, at least in that picture |
| 14:08.24 | Lopeppeppy | They're both innocent tiger tabbys |
| 14:08.50 | zenzio | ooh, fancy. Mine's just "normal house cat" |
| 14:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | tiger tabby is the color of their coat, silly |
| 14:09.45 | zenzio | ... oh |
| 14:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | There are fancy breeds, but in this case, it's just the coat color. Like black, white, grey, marmalade, calico, tiger tabby. |
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| 14:18.29 | zenzio | think I've showed it before, but this it my cat, in all her grace: http://zenzelezz.net/images/random/Muffe.jpg |
| 14:19.16 | nevcairiel | looks all mean and stuff |
| 14:19.39 | zenzio | she can be. Notice the drop of drool |
| 14:19.47 | Cruciformer | "the camera is stealing my soul, get that thing outta mah face!" |
| 14:20.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, glare! Angry eyes. |
| 14:21.20 | zenzio | she did get a bit annoyed. I had just got the fancy camera, and she was the only thing to try it on |
| 14:23.12 | Cruciformer | what camera? |
| 14:23.14 | Lopeppeppy | Moose only gets annoyed when I use the flash, which is all the time, since she's an indoor cat. |
| 14:23.23 | zenzio | EOS 450D |
| 14:23.47 | zenzio | might have been the flash with me too, I just let the camera decide >.< |
| 14:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | They hates the bright lights, my precious. |
| 14:25.39 | zenzio | I know, sweetie |
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| 14:46.19 | Adys | how do you show which branch I'm currently bound to in git? |
| 14:46.34 | nevcairiel | git branch |
| 14:46.58 | Adys | * master |
| 14:47.00 | Adys | helpful :P |
| 14:47.03 | Lopeppeppy | thinks that's a bad pun |
| 14:47.03 | Adys | I need the uri |
| 14:47.22 | nevcairiel | uri? |
| 14:47.32 | nevcairiel | branches are nothing more then a label on a revision |
| 14:47.34 | Adys | git://git.gnome.org/whatever |
| 14:47.38 | Adys | well |
| 14:47.44 | nevcairiel | so you want your remote |
| 14:47.46 | Adys | git pull gotta be bound to something |
| 14:47.47 | Adys | yeha |
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| 14:48.00 | nevcairiel | git remote |
| 14:48.12 | nevcairiel | git remote -v should show urls, too |
| 14:48.19 | p3lim | is it possible to revert the way the CreateFrame object 'StatusBar' fills? |
| 14:48.23 | Adys | adys@tishes:~/src/gnome-common$ git remote |
| 14:48.23 | Adys | origin |
| 14:48.24 | Adys | man |
| 14:48.26 | Adys | git is HELPFUL |
| 14:48.27 | p3lim | Preferably from right to left |
| 14:48.34 | nevcairiel | add the -v :P |
| 14:48.40 | nevcairiel | or do git remote show origin |
| 14:48.46 | Adys | ah |
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| 14:49.05 | Adys | that last one takes 1 hour |
| 14:49.26 | nevcairiel | it trys to read information from the remote about your status in relation to the remote |
| 14:49.45 | Balreign | how could I insert in UIDropDownMenu a "hasSlider" safely? |
| 14:50.56 | Adys | 22kb/s |
| 14:51.01 | Adys | ill never say git is fast again |
| 14:51.15 | nevcairiel | dont blame the servers speed on git :P |
| 14:51.21 | Adys | oh but i do |
| 14:51.31 | Shirik | yes Shirik was sleeping Adys |
| 14:51.33 | Shirik | what did you want |
| 14:51.37 | Adys | shirik was full of fail |
| 14:51.38 | Adys | go on wave |
| 14:51.47 | Adys | yell me what you yink |
| 14:51.49 | Shirik | I have to take a shower and get to the lab |
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| 14:51.54 | Adys | NO OMG DONT |
| 14:53.14 | |Jelly| | tackles Peppy! |
| 14:53.30 | Fisker | i want to think Adys :( |
| 14:53.54 | Adys | fuck off failure |
| 14:55.12 | p3lim | is it possible to revert the way the CreateFrame object 'StatusBar' fills, preferably from right to left? |
| 14:55.40 | Adys | !api statusbar |
| 14:55.42 | lua_bot | Found 12 possible results for 'statusbar': StatusBar:SetStatusBarColor, StatusBar:SetStatusBarTexture, StatusBar:SetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:SetValue, StatusBar:SetMinMaxValues, StatusBar:GetOrientation, StatusBar:GetMinMaxValues, StatusBar:GetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:SetOrientation, StatusBar:GetStatusBarTexture, StatusBar:GetValue, StatusBar:GetStatusBarColor |
| 14:55.43 | ZorbaTHut | nice, my radar is working just as well as I'd hoped :D |
| 14:56.01 | Adys | SetOrientation, p3lim |
| 14:56.13 | Adys | !api setorientation |
| 14:56.13 | p3lim | Adys: thanks :) |
| 14:56.15 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'setorientation': Slider:SetOrientation, StatusBar:SetOrientation |
| 14:56.20 | Adys | !api statusbar:setorientation |
| 14:56.22 | lua_bot | StatusBar:SetOrientation: Sets the orientation of the status bar (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/StatusBar/SetOrientation) |
| 14:56.33 | Adys | oh. |
| 14:56.49 | p3lim | No, thats the one i already knew about :p |
| 14:57.00 | p3lim | I want to reverse it |
| 14:57.02 | Adys | well if its not in there its not possible |
| 14:57.13 | Cruciformer | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 14:57.18 | mikma | fisker: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/11/wtf_was_that_boy_loses_his_coo.php |
| 14:57.36 | Cruciformer | have the statusbar decrease from right to left like its "draining"? like thw wuartz timers etc? |
| 14:57.38 | p3lim | maybe I can trick it through MinMaxValues |
| 14:57.50 | p3lim | Cruciformer: yeah |
| 14:58.05 | p3lim | normally a statusbar goes from left to right, I want it to go the other way |
| 14:59.03 | Cruciformer | ive done exactly that let me look at my mod |
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| 15:01.47 | Cruciformer | I just did a SetMinMaxValues (0, 1) and then did :SetValue() with a percentage |
| 15:01.55 | Seerah | want: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/c4ab/?cpg=114H |
| 15:02.00 | Cruciformer | 100 is the bar at full right, and it decreases as the percentage decreases |
| 15:02.40 | Cruciformer | so if you SetMinMaxValues (1, 100) and then :SetValue 9100) it will be full to the right. :SetValue (90) and it will now decrease from right to left etc. |
| 15:02.52 | nevcairiel | 9100! its over 9000! |
| 15:03.01 | Cruciformer | s/9100/(100/g |
| 15:03.41 | Cruciformer | does that help? |
| 15:04.32 | Fisker | naw Seerah |
| 15:04.42 | Seerah | naw? :( |
| 15:04.53 | Seerah | no can has? :( |
| 15:07.12 | p3lim | Cruciformer: yeah a bit :) |
| 15:07.25 | p3lim | I want to do more than just that aswell, but thats not possible |
| 15:08.04 | p3lim | I want the statusbar to be see-through, and then when its value drops it reveals a color behind |
| 15:08.07 | ZorbaTHut | well, I may have just broken world pvp a little. Whoops. |
| 15:08.27 | cbreak | world pvp? |
| 15:08.33 | cbreak | sounds like a thing long past |
| 15:08.54 | p3lim | like this on the left: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw30953.png |
| 15:11.18 | AckisWork | teabags the channel. |
| 15:11.21 | Cruciformer | just use :SetStatusBarColor() as a means of colorizing it as part of the OnUpdate |
| 15:11.23 | AckisWork | Oh yah... TROLL BALLS |
| 15:12.04 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, be nice. |
| 15:12.16 | p3lim | Cruciformer: I dont understand |
| 15:12.20 | Ackis | are you saying my balls aren't nice?!?! |
| 15:12.26 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I'm saying. |
| 15:12.35 | Ackis | :O |
| 15:12.41 | Ackis | no taste at all peppy! |
| 15:12.45 | Lopeppeppy | Thank god. |
| 15:12.47 | p3lim | One way would be re-creating the statusbar |
| 15:12.54 | Ackis | hah |
| 15:13.23 | Cruciformer | you can put a colored texture behind the bar, then using SetStatusBarColor() you can decrease the opacity as it scaleds down, so more and more of the bar shines through as it decreases (if I am undestanding you correctly) |
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| 15:14.49 | jimmysaintXIII | Hey guys! I was wondering if there's anybody that could help me with the "Failed to apply patch" nonsense |
| 15:15.03 | Shirik | tackles Seerah and Lopeppeppy |
| 15:15.19 | Ackis | tackles Shirik |
| 15:15.21 | Ackis | oh yah |
| 15:15.24 | Ackis | get tackled on |
| 15:15.25 | Seerah | tickles Shirik |
| 15:16.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %*!*@gateway/web/freenode/*] by Shirik |
| 15:16.25 | jimmysaintXIII | I've done everything I could possibly think of, aside from wiping my computer and putting a fresh install of EVERYTHING on |
| 15:16.30 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %gateway/web/fre!*@*] by Shirik |
| 15:16.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %gateway/web/fre*!*@*] by Shirik |
| 15:17.02 | Seerah | uh oh - I must have pressed some buttons I shouldn't have :p |
| 15:17.37 | Ackis | everytime I see ban messages I check to see if it's me :( |
| 15:17.48 | Seerah | hehe |
| 15:18.16 | Ackis | You have successfully redeemed a code for: Bayonetta Demo. It has been added to your download queue. |
| 15:18.19 | Ackis | w00t |
| 15:18.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik. |
| 15:18.44 | Fisker | why would you do such a thing? |
| 15:18.46 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 15:18.47 | Lopeppeppy | jimmysaintXIII, have you checked in with the tech support forums? |
| 15:18.50 | Fisker | L4D2? |
| 15:18.53 | Shirik | Seerah? |
| 15:18.57 | Shirik | buttons you shouldn't have? |
| 15:19.08 | Cide | wait Shirik |
| 15:19.18 | jimmysaintXIII | I _scoured_ the tech support forums. One of the posts pointed me over here. |
| 15:19.20 | Cide | *ADYS* has your wave addr but not me? :( |
| 15:19.25 | Seerah | cause I tickled you then a bunch of -b messages came up :p |
| 15:19.26 | Shirik | you never asked |
| 15:19.30 | Cide | oh but I did |
| 15:19.33 | Shirik | no |
| 15:19.38 | Cide | oh but I did |
| 15:19.39 | Ackis | Fisker: didn't even play it actually, didn't play AC2 either |
| 15:20.20 | Ackis | Fisker: http://ithinkdiff.com/wp-content/uploads/Themes/Team%20Fortress%202.themepack |
| 15:20.24 | Lopeppeppy | Well... um... this isn't a tech support channel in that sense, honestly, jimmysaintXIII. So much depends on your specific computer, etc etc etc. |
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| 15:20.30 | Cide | Shirik: omg wats ur wave addr thx |
| 15:20.35 | Cide | ? |
| 15:20.41 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: he's getting some answers in wowace |
| 15:20.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, excellent! |
| 15:20.48 | Shirik | see |
| 15:20.51 | Shirik | how hard is that Cide |
| 15:20.53 | Adys | SHIRIK OMG |
| 15:20.55 | Adys | JUST OMG |
| 15:21.01 | Lopeppeppy | Trouble-shooting computers long distance is... hateful before lunch. |
| 15:21.03 | Adys | also seriously |
| 15:21.07 | Adys | halp |
| 15:21.09 | Cide | very difficult apparently |
| 15:21.13 | Adys | amro's being offline |
| 15:21.19 | Adys | and I'm all alone here |
| 15:21.21 | Adys | cure me |
| 15:21.33 | Cide | ~lart Adys |
| 15:21.33 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags Adys into court suing for $200 million |
| 15:21.40 | Cide | cured |
| 15:21.45 | cbreak | what kind of trouble? |
| 15:21.58 | cbreak | remote login helps a lot with many remote support problems |
| 15:22.04 | cbreak | (as does remote-stabbing-people) |
| 15:22.27 | Seerah | Adys: (and Lopeppeppy) http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/18/funny-pictures-dropped-ur-nametags/ |
| 15:22.37 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
| 15:22.53 | Adys | I'm pissed off =/ |
| 15:22.57 | Adys | transferred a bunch of files |
| 15:23.00 | Adys | and they didnt make through |
| 15:23.44 | Lopeppeppy | Blow something up, always helps me when I'm "in a mood". |
| 15:24.13 | Adys | sets a timebomb on Lopeppeppy |
| 15:24.16 | Shirik | ! |
| 15:24.21 | Shirik | you cannot blow up Lopeppeppy |
| 15:24.26 | Adys | oh but i can |
| 15:24.31 | Shirik | she is a dinorawr |
| 15:24.46 | Adys | aren't dinorawrs known for having been blown up? |
| 15:24.56 | Adys | when you're done proving my point gimme a call |
| 15:25.02 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: is this how you moved your kitties? http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/16/funny-pictures-moving/ |
| 15:26.07 | Adys | Seerah: its probably her who sent the pic |
| 15:26.15 | Seerah | :) |
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| 15:28.55 | Adys | Like the flu, a person’s emotional state can be contagious. Watch someone cry, and you’ll likely feel sad; think about the elderly, and you’ll tend to walk slower. Now a study suggests that we can also catch someone else’s irrational thought processes. |
| 15:29.19 | Adys | This just in, scientists found out what the french government has been busy proving for decades |
| 15:29.42 | Kraps | kinda like mob theory? |
| 15:29.55 | Kraps | on a smaller scale |
| 15:30.19 | nevcairiel | you walk slower when you think about old people? |
| 15:30.23 | Ackis | P = NP solved? |
| 15:30.25 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/248415589 |
| 15:30.25 | nevcairiel | wait, you think about old people? |
| 15:30.31 | p3lim | Cruciformer: I just got it. Made a invisible statusbar and made a texture follow the right side of it by calculations |
| 15:30.33 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/246094081 |
| 15:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | I only had one kitty when I moved, thank the stars, and she was good enough to sit in her carrier for a few hours. Poor monster. |
| 15:30.49 | Kraps | Ackis: yeah, what is that? |
| 15:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | But next time I move, that could be it! |
| 15:33.58 | Ackis | Kraps: math problem |
| 15:35.06 | Kraps | can you explain it in a few words? |
| 15:35.25 | p3lim | My head is stuck |
| 15:35.39 | Shirik | yes Ackis |
| 15:35.41 | Shirik | Lua figured it out |
| 15:35.42 | p3lim | say I want the % of the health -missing- |
| 15:35.47 | Shirik | lua> P==NP |
| 15:35.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 15:35.50 | p3lim | what is the calculation? |
| 15:35.54 | Ackis | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem |
| 15:35.59 | Ackis | ~lart Shirik |
| 15:35.59 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on Shirik |
| 15:37.05 | Ackis | xkcd or w/e said that it was solved in their comic so I was looking for something announcing it |
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| 15:38.04 | p3lim | lua> min,cur,max=0,80,100 print(min/max*cur) |
| 15:38.05 | lua_bot | p3lim: 0 |
| 15:38.28 | p3lim | my head is really stuck :/ |
| 15:38.39 | nevcairiel | 0/anything is always 0 :P |
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| 15:42.28 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/profile/default.htm?gamertag=CanadaAckis (you seemed interested in FM3 pics when I last linked them) |
| 15:43.14 | zenzelezz | "Your Password Hint: Arrrrgh"... I wish I had been more specific |
| 15:43.29 | nevcairiel | I hate pages that force a hint on me |
| 15:43.31 | Ackis | zenzelezz: password is prostrate exam ? |
| 15:43.35 | nevcairiel | i never forget my password |
| 15:43.47 | Seerah | zenzelezz: pirate? |
| 15:43.48 | nevcairiel | and theoretically, even if i did, just send me a mail with a "new password" link |
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| 15:44.09 | zenzelezz | Seerah: that's what I thought too, but I can't seem to figure out what would work with that :-p |
| 15:44.19 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: agreed, I prefer the password reset types |
| 15:44.26 | Seerah | monkey pirate? pirate ninja! |
| 15:44.52 | p3lim | width * (cur / max) |
| 15:45.04 | nevcairiel | even windows wants me to use a hint now |
| 15:45.16 | nevcairiel | at least i can input my own hint, and dont have to use a pre-defined question/answer thing |
| 15:45.25 | Kraps | pirate ninja nazi zombies that are also robots? |
| 15:45.28 | nevcairiel | so i make fun of the person forgetting the password :P |
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| 15:53.49 | Shishire | Is there a maximum number of ActionButtons Blizz allows? Or am I free to create more? |
| 15:54.32 | Fisker | sometimes i wish you would die Ackis |
| 15:55.20 | nevcairiel | Shishire: blizzard has 120 action ids you can use, while you're free to create more buttons, at some point you'll duplicate the actions =P |
| 15:55.30 | Shishire | ah, ok |
| 15:55.33 | Shishire | that sucks |
| 15:56.10 | olafski | ackis: page not found :( |
| 15:56.17 | olafski | oh now it is |
| 15:56.19 | Shishire | There goes my plan for a screen filled with action bars... ;P |
| 15:56.56 | Ackis | Fisker: I wish the same thing! |
| 15:57.01 | nevcairiel | you *can* create more, but its more work and generally a PITA |
| 15:57.42 | Shishire | You'd have to manually store the actions, etc, wouldn't you? |
| 15:57.43 | Seerah | Shishire: take a look at Macaroon |
| 15:58.39 | Shishire | fascinating... tyvm |
| 15:58.51 | industrial | WobWork: http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/celebrity-pictures-dr-seuss-books-remember.jpg |
| 16:00.48 | Lopeppeppy | Did you know that he drew some very famous war cartoons too? |
| 16:04.41 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psi6kmbhwUw doggy going crazy after her owner comes back after 4 months lol |
| 16:04.52 | industrial | no idea, I don't know the author (nor twilight :p) |
| 16:04.58 | industrial | but wobin quoted that this morning |
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| 16:07.36 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy |
| 16:07.38 | Shirik | did you miss me? |
| 16:07.43 | Lopeppeppy | Always do, dear. |
| 16:08.13 | Shirik | <3 |
| 16:08.18 | Shirik | I am so tired |
| 16:08.26 | Lopeppeppy | Nap? |
| 16:08.34 | Shirik | I can't |
| 16:08.40 | Shirik | need to have office hours like all day today |
| 16:08.43 | Lopeppeppy | shower and brush your teeth. |
| 16:08.49 | Shirik | I already did |
| 16:08.57 | Lopeppeppy | Again! |
| 16:09.31 | Shirik | kinda hard while at school |
| 16:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | you don't have a toothbrush at school? |
| 16:10.23 | Shirik | uh |
| 16:10.25 | Shirik | no? |
| 16:10.28 | Lopeppeppy | You should. |
| 16:10.42 | Lopeppeppy | If only for these kinds of days. Brushing your teeth has been proven to increase wakefulness. *nod* |
| 16:11.32 | Seerah | also, cinnimon |
| 16:12.10 | Lopeppeppy | Or just something spicy in general, for lunch. |
| 16:12.23 | Lopeppeppy | I want chinese for lunch, but driving out to get it is murder this time of year, ugh. |
| 16:12.24 | Ackis | haha <3 Seerah |
| 16:13.07 | *** join/#wowuidev kdtresh (n=kdtresh@76.212.99.109) |
| 16:13.12 | Seerah | thanks for the video, Ackis :) |
| 16:13.28 | Ackis | :) yw |
| 16:13.49 | Seerah | Shirik: http://www.confectionerynews.com/Formulation/Cinnamon-to-keep-the-brain-alert |
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| 16:15.32 | Kraps | my stomach hurts |
| 16:17.37 | Ackis | http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jimo/83142263914 <-- DJ remix duder stuff if you're into that type of music |
| 16:18.51 | DWSR | Ackis: turntablism or what? |
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| 16:20.13 | DWSR | Oh, nevermind. Dude. Some of this shit is old. |
| 16:20.54 | Ackis | it's not my cup of tea, I just know jimo :P |
| 16:21.14 | Ackis | http://www.jimo.co.uk/mixes |
| 16:21.50 | DWSR | lol, he plays on DI.fm Hardcore Radio. lol I was into that station before I know what Hardcore was. |
| 16:22.50 | Kraps | "not my cup of coffee" doesnt work as well as "not my cup of tea", why is that? |
| 16:23.28 | Ackis | tea is more civilized than coffee |
| 16:24.11 | zenzelezz | because everyone has a cup of coffee, but only some have tea |
| 16:24.38 | industrial | I don't drink coffee. |
| 16:25.12 | Seerah | because there are different flavors/types of tea |
| 16:25.13 | industrial | I con't have a coffeecup either. |
| 16:25.22 | industrial | (:>) |
| 16:25.34 | Seerah | I don't like coffee either (or tea), but I have plenty of coffee cups/mugs for hot chocolate! |
| 16:25.56 | zenzelezz | share? |
| 16:26.10 | Seerah | Indie needs hot chocolate, I think :) |
| 16:26.53 | industrial | yes please |
| 16:26.59 | industrial | or Rooibos thee |
| 16:27.44 | Kraps | one more thing: i think we should be called "united stateians" |
| 16:27.52 | industrial | haha |
| 16:28.35 | theorbtwo | The problem with "not my cup of coffee" is simply that it's not common. |
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| 16:33.05 | zenzelezz | not my caffeinated drink of choice |
| 16:34.05 | Lopeppeppy | I like Mountain Dew, but I can't drink it. |
| 16:34.24 | kdtresh | i haven't had reg mt dew in a long time |
| 16:34.33 | kdtresh | i miss it |
| 16:34.56 | zenzelezz | how popular is Vanilla Coke in your countries? |
| 16:35.05 | zenzelezz | they tried it here a few years ago, but it vanished again |
| 16:35.09 | industrial | same |
| 16:35.13 | kdtresh | it's still around here |
| 16:35.16 | Lopeppeppy | It's not on the shelves anymore, zenzelezz. |
| 16:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | At least around me. |
| 16:35.29 | kdtresh | vanilla coke zero is good for rum & coke XD |
| 16:35.36 | industrial | hehe |
| 16:36.06 | cbreak | zero? |
| 16:36.14 | cbreak | like... water? |
| 16:36.42 | kdtresh | you've never heard of coke zero? |
| 16:37.08 | Lopeppeppy | Coke zero is a slightly different taste than diet coke. But still zero calories. Hence, "zero" |
| 16:37.19 | kdtresh | it's like diet coke that tastes somewhere in between diet coke and reg coke |
| 16:37.29 | kdtresh | like peppy said, it still has zero calories |
| 16:37.32 | industrial | its the flavour they are marketing as MANLY because marketing a product with 'no sugar' or 'less calories' makes men feel like its a woman's drink or something. |
| 16:38.00 | kdtresh | i couldn't stand diet coke a while back |
| 16:38.15 | kdtresh | but after drinking coke zero for so long, diet coke is much more palatable |
| 16:38.28 | Kraps | you get NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAYSIR!!! |
| 16:38.29 | kdtresh | i still can't do diet pepsi though |
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| 16:39.10 | cbreak | I didn't know you can get even water with zero calories |
| 16:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:39.18 | cbreak | maybe distilled water. hmm... |
| 16:39.29 | Lunessa | Morning! |
| 16:39.35 | industrial | stations Lunessa |
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| 16:40.05 | kdtresh | cold water can probably be considered negative calories, though not very far negative |
| 16:40.26 | kdtresh | since it requires energy to be raised to body temperature |
| 16:40.39 | Ackis | is it thanks giving today for americans? |
| 16:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, no, next week. |
| 16:40.52 | cbreak | yay. that mans ice cream can be made zero calories too just by cooling! |
| 16:41.12 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: that's what I thought but I've seen two people wish americans a happy turkey day |
| 16:41.26 | Lopeppeppy | Crazy talk |
| 16:41.37 | Lopeppeppy | It's the 26th. |
| 16:41.51 | kdtresh | next week is the longest short week |
| 16:42.14 | Kraps | does it start thursday? |
| 16:42.16 | industrial | is not looking forward to Sinterklaas -_- |
| 16:42.21 | industrial | (5 dec) |
| 16:43.05 | Lopeppeppy | It is Thursday, yes. |
| 16:43.07 | kdtresh | i wonder if winter veil will have anything new |
| 16:43.17 | kdtresh | or the same "find metzen" and greench |
| 16:43.22 | Kraps | aw crap |
| 16:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | Same old same old, I guess. |
| 16:43.45 | Kraps | that means i'll have to go in monday |
| 16:47.10 | Legorol | In the (bugged) BWL, how long do you need to wait outside to stop the respawn of adds in Razorgore's room after you killed him? |
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| 16:51.49 | Shadowed | Should be 30 minutes for soft reset Legorol |
| 16:52.23 | Aelo | so long as everyones outside it shouldnt take longer than 5 mins |
| 16:52.26 | cbreak | bugged bwl? |
| 16:52.38 | cbreak | the adds should stop spawning as soon as you reach p2 |
| 17:00.42 | zenzelezz | fucking hell DA:O! How many times do I have to say I don't want a stupid duel |
| 17:01.13 | industrial | :p |
| 17:01.30 | zenzelezz | I have no tolerance for games that pretend to give you a choice, but in the end don't |
| 17:02.11 | cogwheel | morning |
| 17:03.24 | Kraps | cogwheel: just hit noon here |
| 17:03.30 | cogwheel | ~ugt |
| 17:03.31 | purl | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:04.02 | zenzelezz | people need to stop with the stupid UGT thing |
| 17:04.12 | Kraps | oh forgot about that |
| 17:04.13 | nevcairiel | it makes perfect sense :P |
| 17:04.14 | zenzelezz | as well as the "zomg it's not <time of day>" responses |
| 17:04.14 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: people need to stop with the "just hit noon here" think |
| 17:04.18 | cogwheel | thing* |
| 17:04.19 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:04.21 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: I was coming to that |
| 17:04.43 | Kraps | you're all wrong |
| 17:04.52 | cogwheel | KNOW EWE! |
| 17:05.07 | Shirik | stop |
| 17:05.09 | Shirik | hammer time |
| 17:05.50 | cogwheel | Shirik: my hunter had a pet Raptor (RAPtor) named Hammer and i had a "stop... hammertime" macro to send him to attack >< |
| 17:06.26 | Cide | did you stop auto-attack as well? |
| 17:08.24 | Kraps | i wish you could have 4 npc groupmates in wow like it looks like you have in DA:O |
| 17:09.34 | cbreak | what for? |
| 17:09.54 | cbreak | died 4 times a few days ago due to stupid mirror images pulling random mobs |
| 17:10.15 | Kraps | so i can do instances be myself :) |
| 17:10.20 | Kraps | by* |
| 17:12.19 | Adys | Ding \o/ |
| 17:12.22 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/about |
| 17:12.24 | Adys | 1000 revision |
| 17:12.26 | Adys | s |
| 17:14.15 | nevcairiel | Sigrie 2.1.1 revision 997 |
| 17:14.17 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:14.57 | Adys | squid sucks |
| 17:15.05 | Adys | anyway ctrl-f5 it |
| 17:15.45 | Kraps | "It was entirely designed and written by Adys." thats nice |
| 17:16.47 | Adys | thats not entirely true actually |
| 17:16.54 | Adys | fair bit of the js was written by dinnerbone |
| 17:16.59 | Adys | i need to update it |
| 17:17.06 | Shirik | cogwheel you are bad :P |
| 17:18.08 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Adys!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (Lying is not tolerated) |
| 17:18.49 | Fisker | http://philipn.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?11157.0 <-nice application process |
| 17:19.00 | Fisker | "How good are you in a random unrelated flash game?" |
| 17:19.05 | Fisker | "Not good? Ok application denied" |
| 17:19.06 | Fisker | lols |
| 17:19.49 | Kraps | ===Adys There was no such nickname |
| 17:19.50 | Kraps | ---Adys End of WHOWAS |
| 17:19.59 | Kraps | wow |
| 17:20.02 | Shirik | rofl Fisker |
| 17:20.19 | Kraps | way to go MIB on him freenode |
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| 17:20.29 | Shirik | Kraps: /whowas fails while the user is logged in |
| 17:23.02 | Fisker | legendary douche on our server Shirik |
| 17:23.07 | Fisker | he gets all loot |
| 17:23.10 | Shirik | who? |
| 17:23.11 | Shirik | the GM? |
| 17:23.14 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:23.16 | Shirik | btdt |
| 17:23.19 | Fisker | and when he's done gearing up his main he joins on his alt |
| 17:23.43 | Fisker | it's odd that people even want to do that |
| 17:23.59 | Fisker | all it takes is 24 people to say "fuck you" and then find an interested 25th player |
| 17:24.20 | Shirik | easier for one person to go "fuck you" and him to go "gtfo" |
| 17:24.28 | Shirik | and then repress everyone else with fear |
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| 17:26.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 17:26.22 | Adys | =( |
| 17:26.40 | Adys | I WAS AFK |
| 17:26.42 | Adys | UNFAYR |
| 17:27.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:27.07 | Shirik | anyway adys |
| 17:27.09 | Shirik | "The database and hundreds of tools behind it are all coded in Python. Sleek, cross-platform and powerful, that language never fails to provide a fun experience." |
| 17:27.15 | Shirik | Such lies will not be tolerated |
| 17:27.23 | Adys | fu |
| 17:27.30 | Adys | I shouldnt have come back |
| 17:27.34 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:27.48 | Shirik | also |
| 17:27.54 | Shirik | l2commabeforelastitem |
| 17:28.01 | Adys | wat? |
| 17:28.24 | Shirik | I don't know which one of the english gods decided it would be cool to change the rule to make it optional to have a comma before "and" |
| 17:28.26 | Shirik | but it's stupid |
| 17:28.40 | Shirik | Just because English is an inconsistent language does not mean we need to make it more inconsistent |
| 17:28.54 | Adys | its very consistent, comma before `and' isn't tolerated |
| 17:29.02 | Shirik | ` isn't tolerated |
| 17:29.05 | Shirik | this isn't bash |
| 17:29.07 | Adys | `fuck off` |
| 17:29.12 | Shirik | ```````````````` you |
| 17:29.23 | Adys | backticks are retarded |
| 17:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oxford comma is a neglected beastie. |
| 17:29.28 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Shirik |
| 17:29.29 | krka | you all are retarded! |
| 17:30.33 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 17:32.06 | Shirik | Commas, much like insults from your significant other's father, should, if you're paying attention, give pause. And in doing so, they, by their very design, separate. (My hope is that you're getting the gist of that as you read this comma-saturated discourse.) |
| 17:32.08 | Shirik | That paragraph wins. |
| 17:32.49 | Thunder_Child | i thought you're not supposed to start a sentince with 'and'? |
| 17:32.57 | Shirik | sigh |
| 17:33.24 | Shirik | This is some rule made up by 2nd grade, overzealous English teachers that think it's better to teach a "lazy" rule than the "right" rule |
| 17:34.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: it is considered poor form, but im not sure its entirely wrong. |
| 17:34.24 | Shirik | Though admittedly, I think you are correct in that the "And" in that sentence can (and should) be dropped |
| 17:34.29 | Lopeppeppy | What's that line from Good Will Hunting? "At Harvard, we don't end our sentences with a preposition." And so he adds "asshole" to the end? |
| 17:34.34 | Aelo | are you allowed to put a comma before an "and" in a sentence? :P |
| 17:34.42 | Shirik | yes! |
| 17:34.47 | Adys | kind of |
| 17:34.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Aelo: often, yes |
| 17:34.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, aelo, and sometimes it's awesome to do so. |
| 17:34.55 | Aelo | :P |
| 17:34.55 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy wins |
| 17:34.57 | Aelo | was never sure hehe |
| 17:34.59 | NightHawkTheSane | in fact, in lists of things, it's considered proper to do so |
| 17:35.10 | Lopeppeppy | Like butter, peas, and sugar. |
| 17:35.15 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 17:35.17 | Shirik | that was actually how this discussion started |
| 17:35.22 | Shirik | because Adys fails at that |
| 17:35.36 | Adys | fuck off and lick my butt. |
| 17:35.37 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/11502/ragnaros/ |
| 17:35.41 | Shirik | huggles Adys |
| 17:35.46 | Adys | just lick it |
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| 17:35.57 | Lopeppeppy | *yawn* |
| 17:35.58 | Shirik | huggles Adys |
| 17:35.59 | Lopeppeppy | Not original enough. |
| 17:36.12 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/11502/ragnaros/. |
| 17:37.09 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy / Cairenn|afk: this is my new wallpaper, and I think you'll absolutely adore it :) http://tiffanyanddave.deviantart.com/art/Peek-A-Boo-Wallpaper-Series-1-141313141 |
| 17:37.22 | Lopeppeppy | Kitty!!!! |
| 17:37.31 | Seerah | snow leopard! |
| 17:37.39 | Shirik | :) |
| 17:37.40 | zenzelezz | cute |
| 17:37.47 | Shirik | I'm not cool enough to go to that link? |
| 17:39.08 | Seerah | well, you're not a girl. you don't go "squeeeee!" |
| 17:39.28 | Seerah | Shirik / Lopeppeppy / Cairenn|afk: here are the rest of that user's photos: http://tiffanyanddave.deviantart.com/gallery/ |
| 17:39.29 | Thunder_Child | he might go squeeeeee anyway |
| 17:39.40 | NightHawkTheSane | it's 9:40 am, no one should go squee this eaerly in the morning |
| 17:39.49 | Seerah | this one is also adorable: http://tiffanyanddave.deviantart.com/art/A-Sweet-Surprise-143531383 |
| 17:39.50 | Thunder_Child | except squee |
| 17:39.54 | NightHawkTheSane | in fact, im pretty sure this hour of the day should be illegal |
| 17:40.06 | kdtresh | not on a holiday |
| 17:40.10 | Lopeppeppy | I can has a.... neon phone cord? |
| 17:40.13 | Seerah | NightHawkTheSane: I'm eating lunch - it's perfectly acceptable to go squee :) |
| 17:40.30 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, anyone who can make me go squee in the morning is a keeper, IMO. *wink* |
| 17:40.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: >.> no comment. and i;m going to work. :P |
| 17:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | Have a nice day, dear. *purr* |
| 17:41.56 | Lopeppeppy | is a baaaaaaaad girl. |
| 17:42.02 | Seerah | hehehehe |
| 17:43.45 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy >< |
| 17:43.56 | Shirik | and Seerah, how do you know that? |
| 17:44.08 | Seerah | know what? |
| 17:45.10 | Shirik | that I don't go squeeee |
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| 17:45.33 | Seerah | ... your voice doesn't go high enough? |
| 17:45.37 | Kraps | i like turtles |
| 17:45.44 | Thunder_Child | falsetto |
| 17:45.48 | kdtresh | no matter how they toss the dice? |
| 17:45.49 | Thunder_Child | or however it's spelled |
| 17:45.56 | Seerah | TC: that's correct |
| 17:46.29 | Seerah | Kraps: http://blckbaronstock.deviantart.com/art/Sea-Turtle-01-95689706 |
| 17:48.06 | Kraps | well, not really, i'm more of a general animal liker |
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| 17:48.35 | Lunessa | We're squeeing? |
| 17:49.30 | Aelo | i dont think my server will buy anymore choppars :< |
| 17:50.08 | Seerah | Lunessa / Shirik: http://tiffanyanddave.deviantart.com/art/Elusivity-Defied-Part-2-of-2-141217067 :) |
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| 17:51.41 | Lunessa | Seerah: That's either "squee" or "awww" worthy depending on the matrix of age/gender/inclination. |
| 17:52.17 | Seerah | Lunessa: this was the original link: http://tiffanyanddave.deviantart.com/art/Peek-A-Boo-Wallpaper-Series-1-141313141 (my new wallpaper) |
| 17:52.30 | Lunessa | Nice. |
| 17:52.46 | Seerah | he's peering out at me from underneath my irc window - so every time I look over, there's a cute little cub with a big blue eye |
| 17:53.20 | Lunessa | And you squee all over again. |
| 17:54.00 | Kraps | i was at a petting zoo recently, i was feeling strange emotions |
| 17:54.36 | zenzelezz | lots of weird people petting you? |
| 17:54.37 | Kraps | kind of like "these animals are awesome!!!!111" |
| 17:54.59 | Kraps | zenzelezz: thankfully no |
| 17:57.32 | Thunder_Child | so happyness is a strange emotion for you Kraps? |
| 17:58.24 | Kraps | genuine, overpowering elation more like |
| 17:58.31 | Kraps | yes |
| 17:59.30 | Ackis | http://negativegamer.com/2009/10/05/the-ftc-finalise-the-end-of-secret-free-stuff-for-blogs/ |
| 18:01.14 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/664/ |
| 18:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sucks to be in IT. |
| 18:02.15 | Lopeppeppy | Someone stopped by to tell me her dream. I recruited her to work for IT. (I don't even work for IT!!!) And we ended every day out on the lawn doing stupid team building exercises. |
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| 18:02.56 | Thunder_Child | i cant beging to explain all the things in that statment i dont understant |
| 18:03.05 | zenzelezz | you shouldn't be building stupid teams, you should be building great teams |
| 18:03.12 | Thunder_Child | begin* |
| 18:03.54 | Lunessa | The "team building" and "TQM" phases come and go in organizations. Usually they outstay their usefulness by an extensive margin. |
| 18:04.37 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/icecrown-citadel-raid-access-progression/ |
| 18:05.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: that xkcd makes me cry a little, because i know both paths lead to some element of futility. :P |
| 18:05.22 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Having worked in both arenas now... Yeah. |
| 18:08.38 | cogwheel | hugs 0x5f375a86 |
| 18:10.50 | NightHawkTheSane | licd and pvp have been pretty awesome the past few days. |
| 18:11.07 | haste | square rooting are we cogwheel ? |
| 18:12.43 | cogwheel | Call roto-inversesquarerooter, that's the name, and away go your performance problems down the drain |
| 18:15.31 | haste | cogwheel: the quake sources called, they want their magic number back :p |
| 18:16.06 | cogwheel | tell randall munroe imo |
| 18:17.05 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI|work (n=KarlKFI|@adcom005v.adcom.uci.edu) |
| 18:18.11 | haste | cogwheel: why him? |
| 18:18.20 | Lopeppeppy | Laugh value? |
| 18:18.39 | cogwheel | haste: mouseover latest xkcd |
| 18:18.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 18:19.52 | haste | cogwheel: guess I need to read it first! |
| 18:20.05 | haste | cogwheel: that value is regardless from the inverse square root function found in q3 :P |
| 18:20.14 | cogwheel | i know |
| 18:22.18 | cogwheel | lol just got revered with darnassus by using a gnomeregan commendation badge |
| 18:23.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneu^ (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 18:23.23 | cogwheel | i'm surprised the NEs tolerate the gnomes at all... Seems like them tree-huggers should be all up in arms about mechanostriders & flying machines polluting their forests |
| 18:23.36 | Lopeppeppy | Hey. Night elves are blacksmiths too. |
| 18:23.50 | *** part/#wowuidev jimmysaintXIII (n=nerpader@94.143.192.28) |
| 18:24.14 | KarlKFI|work | no one cared about pollution until well after the industrial revolution. |
| 18:25.28 | Fisker | IE9 will own you |
| 18:25.44 | KarlKFI|work | plus they live on separate continents |
| 18:26.09 | KarlKFI|work | NEs are prolly more worried abotu goblins |
| 18:26.19 | Shirik | sigh |
| 18:26.20 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy |
| 18:26.25 | Shirik | come fix our school computers |
| 18:26.48 | Shirik | even records & registration was having trouble FORCING my registration in |
| 18:28.37 | zenzelezz | it's not about force, but technique |
| 18:29.46 | Fisker | IE9 will own you Shirik |
| 18:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like your IT needs an overnight shift, Shirik. |
| 18:30.33 | Shirik | zenzelezz, I'm sure you have experience with that |
| 18:30.45 | zenzelezz | no way Shirik, I'm a virgin |
| 18:32.03 | zenzelezz | for a bunch of cheap shotters, you're all remarkably passing up the chance any time I mention that |
| 18:32.04 | Shirik | I am so tired |
| 18:32.15 | Shirik | zenzelezz: It would be quite hypocritical for me to say anything to that |
| 18:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.iheartchaos.com/content/left-4-dead-retro-nes-version-i-heart-video-games |
| 18:33.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Pewpew (n=Pewpewar@c-68-33-19-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:33.43 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: meh. |
| 18:35.00 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: win |
| 18:35.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Pew (n=Pewpewar@c-68-33-19-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:35.23 | Shirik | however |
| 18:35.29 | Shirik | he seems to be missing a lot of the interesting aspects of l4d |
| 18:37.05 | batrick | hi shirik |
| 18:37.12 | Shirik | hi batrick |
| 18:37.27 | Lunessa | How many times do I have to explain to a professor of mathematics the principals of session time-outs for web applications? |
| 18:37.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Boxxy (i=kzxathcx@server1.bshellz.net) |
| 18:37.49 | KarlKFI|work | session time outs are the devil |
| 18:37.53 | cogwheel | Lunessa: 42 |
| 18:37.55 | batrick | you forgot to give him coffee lunessa |
| 18:38.00 | Boxxy | fhttp://imgur.com/zMzGJ.jpg |
| 18:38.07 | Lunessa | batrick: Her. |
| 18:38.17 | cogwheel | Lunessa: 76 |
| 18:38.20 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.21 | cogwheel | is going to hell |
| 18:38.23 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.26 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.31 | cogwheel | Shirik: ^ |
| 18:38.32 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.33 | KarlKFI|work | boot Boxxy please |
| 18:38.35 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.36 | batrick | I consider "him" gender neutral when talking about individuals of unkown sex |
| 18:38.38 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.41 | Boxxy | unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce |
| 18:38.42 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (n=chrippa@ua-83-227-215-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 18:38.43 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o+b Boxxy *!*=kzxathcx@server1.bshellz.net] by Shirik |
| 18:38.43 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Boxxy!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (gtfo) |
| 18:38.46 | cogwheel | batrick: you and the English language |
| 18:38.49 | Shirik | same guy huh |
| 18:38.53 | Shirik | let's see |
| 18:38.55 | KarlKFI|work | and dont go to the link he posted |
| 18:38.55 | Shirik | how do I blacklist |
| 18:39.11 | Fisker | behind 7 boxxies |
| 18:39.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Riffage (n=nnscript@78-86-205-138.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 18:39.24 | Shadowed | That guy is quite stubborn |
| 18:39.28 | Shirik | It's ok |
| 18:39.30 | nevcairiel | Shirik: whats up with your mighty bot |
| 18:39.32 | Fisker | why not get t to look at it? |
| 18:39.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi (n=Bibi@AVelizy-151-1-16-210.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:39.40 | Shirik | nevcairiel: The bot is designed for bot attacks |
| 18:39.42 | Shirik | not a single user |
| 18:39.52 | Shirik | If you have an algorithm for detection I'm open to ears |
| 18:40.06 | cogwheel | stupid boxxy interrupted my joke :'( |
| 18:40.07 | Shirik | always willing to take new AI modules |
| 18:40.07 | nevcairiel | repeat spam should be easy to detect |
| 18:40.15 | KarlKFI|work | ^^ |
| 18:40.23 | batrick | cogwheel: i didn't get your joke, if it was one |
| 18:40.31 | cogwheel | but it's ok... my cheek probably would've regretted it if anyone figured it out |
| 18:40.41 | nevcairiel | Sadly i lost all my old algorithms |
| 18:40.44 | nevcairiel | its been so long |
| 18:40.46 | Lunessa | She was demanding auto-save of her e-mail at session time-out when using webmail (OWA) I had to explain sessions, session time-outs and the stateless nature of the web - 10 times. |
| 18:40.49 | nevcairiel | i dont even remember which year it was |
| 18:40.50 | cogwheel | Lunessa asked how many times i said 42. then he said "her" so i changed it to 76 |
| 18:40.53 | cogwheel | see? |
| 18:40.54 | cogwheel | is going to hell |
| 18:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. apparently new zealand is the least corrupt nation... http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5AH0HA20091118 |
| 18:41.17 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, he used the same ident the whole time iirc |
| 18:41.25 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I just added ident to blacklist |
| 18:41.31 | Shirik | way ahead of you |
| 18:41.54 | Thunder_Child | if you just added it i am doubting the whole 'way' part |
| 18:41.54 | batrick | how many times do you have to say ident |
| 18:43.18 | *** join/#wowuidev snkenjoi (i=4c492f2a@gateway/web/freenode/x-cblxqkxeflygyurs) |
| 18:43.50 | snkenjoi | am i allowed to talk about gold farming bots here? |
| 18:43.51 | snkenjoi | hey |
| 18:44.13 | Grum | you can try :) |
| 18:44.17 | cogwheel | in a purely academic sense, sure |
| 18:44.26 | cogwheel | don't go linking any or asking how to actually do certain things though |
| 18:44.26 | nevcairiel | I doubt thats his plan |
| 18:44.38 | Grum | we also kinda dont know :P |
| 18:44.39 | nevcairiel | the academic sense, that is |
| 18:44.48 | *** join/#wowuidev jey2 (i=jey2@server1.bshellz.net) |
| 18:45.39 | Lunessa | Gold-Farming Bots Make Baby Murloc Jesus Cry. |
| 18:45.41 | cogwheel | jey2: you a spammer? |
| 18:45.51 | jey2 | cogwheel: are you? :O |
| 18:45.55 | cogwheel | (same host as Boxxy) |
| 18:46.09 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, didnt you ban the freenode gateway? |
| 18:46.13 | Seerah | I was just noticing that and getting ready to kick |
| 18:46.17 | Grum | cogwheel: its a shellbox so prolly not :) |
| 18:46.24 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I removed that ban |
| 18:46.25 | jey2 | yeah, bshellz |
| 18:46.31 | cogwheel | no worries |
| 18:46.35 | cogwheel | was just doing a turing test :) |
| 18:46.53 | jey2 | heh |
| 18:47.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Pew (n=Pewpewar@c-68-33-19-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:47.17 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: what if he had said yes? :P |
| 18:47.28 | Seerah | then I was ready and waiting :) |
| 18:47.37 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: it would've caused a rift in the space-time continuum imo |
| 18:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ... also, no comment. |
| 18:48.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphon (n=gryphon@c-76-104-164-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 18:48.43 | *** join/#wowuidev DNF (i=43d68cbc@gateway/web/freenode/x-lbzcyccirubrlabw) |
| 18:49.18 | DNF | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQXuNLcZa8 |
| 18:49.23 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 18:49.23 | DNF | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQXuNLcZa8 |
| 18:49.24 | DNF | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQXuNLcZa8 |
| 18:49.25 | DNF | UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE |
| 18:49.36 | nevcairiel | you should really extend the logic, Shirik |
| 18:49.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+rR] by Shirik |
| 18:49.45 | cogwheel | why "unce" ? |
| 18:49.48 | Shirik | I will nevcairiel |
| 18:49.49 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (n=nevin@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 18:49.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 18:49.51 | Shirik | it's harder than you think |
| 18:50.19 | nevcairiel | simle flood detection or repeat detection shouldnt be hard |
| 18:50.41 | Thunder_Child | maybe he is stying to say uncle and cant spell> |
| 18:50.44 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 18:51.01 | cogwheel | stying? |
| 18:51.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child is an expert on poor spelling. |
| 18:51.25 | ccox | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unce%20unce%20unce |
| 18:51.29 | Thunder_Child | agrees |
| 18:52.12 | Ackis | Ackis just joined Girl Gamer! hahah I feel dirty :( |
| 18:55.25 | Shirik | nevcairiel, I'm working on that now |
| 18:55.28 | Shirik | it shouldn't be too hard |
| 18:55.35 | Shirik | it's just something I haven't written |
| 18:55.57 | Thunder_Child | write faster! |
| 18:56.16 | nevcairiel | funny how no-one bothered to ban the spammer, though |
| 18:56.23 | Shirik | it would be pointless |
| 18:56.33 | nevcairiel | banning gives satisfaction! |
| 18:56.44 | Thunder_Child | not if it does nothing |
| 18:56.52 | Ackis | UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE |
| 18:56.55 | Shirik | I think I'm going to have shiibot lock the channel and notban on repeat |
| 18:57.16 | nevcairiel | for a single spammer that seems kinda extensive |
| 18:57.22 | Shirik | but he'll just join on another IP |
| 18:57.23 | Ackis | Shirik: if you do that does it mean Fisker and I will get in trouble? :P |
| 18:57.36 | Shirik | which would just slow the spam, not stop it |
| 18:57.51 | batrick | banning is more satisfying imo |
| 18:58.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl51B64407.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 18:58.23 | *** join/#wowuidev fuuuuuuck (i=4654d352@gateway/web/freenode/x-voizkqioxxsmvqoz) |
| 18:58.30 | nevcairiel | new spammer ^ |
| 18:58.31 | fuuuuuuck | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4964/1253006340622.jpg |
| 18:58.31 | fuuuuuuck | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4964/1253006340622.jpg |
| 18:58.39 | fuuuuuuck | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4964/1253006340622.jpg |
| 18:58.41 | nevcairiel | even avoids your rR now |
| 18:58.41 | fuuuuuuck | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4964/1253006340622.jpg |
| 18:58.43 | fuuuuuuck | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4964/1253006340622.jpg |
| 18:58.52 | nevcairiel | so much for locking |
| 18:59.11 | nevcairiel | at least its porn |
| 18:59.14 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:59.14 | Shirik | ow |
| 18:59.20 | Shirik | was that lag or? |
| 18:59.44 | nevcairiel | lag? |
| 18:59.53 | alestane | I got about 12 links to the same address. |
| 18:59.54 | Shirik | I saw a lot of things at once |
| 19:00.00 | Shirik | all within the same second |
| 19:00.06 | Shirik | Including nevcairiel responding to the join |
| 19:00.13 | nevcairiel | hm must've been lag |
| 19:00.16 | nevcairiel | on your end |
| 19:00.17 | Shirik | so either nevcairiel's a robot, has extremely light speed typing, or lag |
| 19:00.27 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %*!*@gateway/web/freenode/*] by Shirik |
| 19:00.27 | nevcairiel | join was on :23 |
| 19:00.31 | nevcairiel | my line on :29 |
| 19:00.34 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: are you a robot? |
| 19:00.36 | nevcairiel | first spam on :31 |
| 19:00.36 | Shirik | yeah not even close :P |
| 19:01.02 | Ackis | so people are using the freenode web-client to spam? /surprised |
| 19:01.08 | Shirik | no |
| 19:01.10 | nevcairiel | even a logged in client |
| 19:01.10 | Shirik | one moron is :P |
| 19:01.24 | nevcairiel | probably sitting in this channel here |
| 19:01.28 | Ackis | I be it's Fisker! |
| 19:01.36 | nevcairiel | blames that guy happening to connect from the same shell as the first spammer |
| 19:01.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Pewpewarrows (n=Pewpewar@c-68-33-19-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:01.54 | nevcairiel | coincedence much? |
| 19:02.08 | Shirik | who is that? |
| 19:02.12 | Shirik | I don't see it |
| 19:02.22 | Kraps | why the silence? |
| 19:02.27 | Ackis | blames 11:43snkenjoiam i allowed to talk about gold farming bots here? |
| 19:02.36 | Ackis | and Fisker |
| 19:02.59 | Shirik | oh Fisker is banned lol |
| 19:03.10 | nevcairiel | good choice |
| 19:03.11 | Shirik | oh no he's not |
| 19:03.17 | Shirik | but sometimes he logs in on a freenode client |
| 19:06.11 | Kraps | i think i'm developing another fever :( |
| 19:06.27 | alestane | huggles Lopeppeppy just because. |
| 19:07.02 | Shirik | !reload |
| 19:07.03 | Shiibot | Cannot reload AI. Using fail safes. ai.lua:281: 'end' expected (to close 'if' at line 279) near ';' |
| 19:07.23 | nevcairiel | quick, attack, the bot is only on failsafe mode! |
| 19:07.28 | Shirik | !reload |
| 19:07.28 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 19:07.37 | Shirik | failsafe is just the last successful configuration :P |
| 19:07.41 | Shirik | It's not reduced functionality |
| 19:07.48 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 19:08.16 | *** part/#wowuidev jey2 (i=jey2@server1.bshellz.net) |
| 19:08.25 | Shirik | !reload |
| 19:08.25 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 19:08.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 19:08.50 | Shirik | 1234567890123456789012345678901234567890 |
| 19:08.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %*!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shiibot |
| 19:09.00 | nevcairiel | it only silences? |
| 19:09.05 | nevcairiel | what kind of fun is that |
| 19:09.09 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 19:09.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 19:09.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 19:09.42 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b *!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik |
| 19:09.47 | Shirik | (14:08:27)  -› [notice from ChanServ]: No bans found matching Shirik on #wowuidev. |
| 19:09.49 | Shirik | Bullshit |
| 19:09.55 | Shirik | nevcairiel, what else should I do >< |
| 19:09.55 | nevcairiel | its not a ban, in theory |
| 19:10.00 | nevcairiel | kickban! |
| 19:10.04 | nevcairiel | throw insults! |
| 19:10.13 | Duman | fite |
| 19:10.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rR] by Shirik |
| 19:11.08 | Shirik | and then I crashed mirc |
| 19:11.10 | Kraps | BURN IT WITH FIRE |
| 19:11.12 | nevcairiel | I just noticed that my client doesnt have a UI for viewing the banlist yet, i should add that and send it to the devs <.< |
| 19:11.25 | Shirik | my client has a horrible UI for viewing the ban list |
| 19:11.28 | Shirik | it's incredibly broken |
| 19:11.37 | Shirik | it locks up, it can't remove +qs |
| 19:11.52 | Shirik | it SEES the +qs but clicking "remove" makes it go "wtfhax?" |
| 19:12.01 | nevcairiel | all i can do is dump the banlist into the status window |
| 19:12.18 | Shirik | but anyway |
| 19:12.19 | nevcairiel | oh well its still under dev |
| 19:12.28 | Ackis | I so want to dick around with Shiibot right now :( |
| 19:12.29 | Shirik | Shiibot's AI modules were all originally written for dealing with botnets |
| 19:12.47 | nevcairiel | Ackis: you'll get banned from it sooner or later, dont worry |
| 19:12.54 | Shirik | Considering I'm the only one that ever writes AI modules for it... |
| 19:13.07 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I know |
| 19:13.45 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 19:13.45 | purl | chops krka in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 19:13.52 | nevcairiel | again the solaris cd? |
| 19:14.29 | Shirik | !reload |
| 19:14.29 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 19:14.37 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 19:15.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 19:15.12 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:15.14 | Shirik | I'm still banned |
| 19:15.23 | nevcairiel | ha |
| 19:15.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %*!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik |
| 19:15.58 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 19:16.01 | Shirik | 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 |
| 19:16.03 | Shirik | 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 |
| 19:16.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+bb *!n=mpdelbuo@* %*!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shiibot |
| 19:16.12 | Duman | o.O |
| 19:16.24 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 19:16.24 | nevcairiel | now thats weird, a real ban on your ident and a silence on your host? |
| 19:16.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-bb *!n=mpdelbuo@* %*!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik |
| 19:16.48 | Shirik | Yeah they were both supposed to be silences |
| 19:16.51 | nevcairiel | i mean, for one, bots change idents fast |
| 19:17.00 | Shirik | except this one apparently :) |
| 19:17.24 | Shirik | anyway, it was meant to be a silence |
| 19:17.33 | Shirik | its primary purpose is for freenode gateway attackers |
| 19:17.39 | Shirik | their mask will change but their ident will not |
| 19:17.49 | Shirik | if the same IP |
| 19:18.38 | Shirik | ~hug Shiibot |
| 19:18.39 | purl | ACTION hugs Shiibot tightly until Shiibot turns slightly blue |
| 19:19.30 | Kraps | so we've established that Shiibot is good at banning testers but not actual spammers |
| 19:19.42 | nevcairiel | pretty much |
| 19:19.42 | Shirik | Shiibot was never designed to handle bans |
| 19:19.58 | Shirik | He was designed almost a year and a half ago to deal with botnets, which he handles extremely effectively |
| 19:20.00 | Thunder_Child | sounds like it's time for a new bot then |
| 19:20.13 | Shirik | you guys are criticizing me for trying to hack together code in a rush |
| 19:20.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Riffage- (n=nnscript@78-86-205-138.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:20.22 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 19:20.35 | Shirik | If I were Microsoft I would say "deal with it" for another 3 months |
| 19:20.35 | Thunder_Child | you expected something else? |
| 19:20.38 | Shirik | and then release the buggy code |
| 19:20.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i'm not critisizing you. i'm far to lazy for that. |
| 19:20.54 | nevcairiel | wait, microsoft hate from Shirik? |
| 19:21.26 | Shirik | I don't "like" microsoft. I simply think that a lot of things that are said about them are unjustified. |
| 19:21.26 | Shirik | Visual Studio, for example, is an amazing product |
| 19:21.47 | Shirik | I'm sorry but gcc is nothing compared to VS's compiler |
| 19:21.54 | Shirik | and gdb is nothing compared to VS's debugger |
| 19:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | and your mom is nothing compared to microsoft's mom. |
| 19:22.21 | nevcairiel | gdb is fine, its just not a GUI =P |
| 19:22.27 | Shirik | hell 2008's debugger is practically valgrind + gdb |
| 19:22.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Pewpewarrows (n=Pewpewar@c-68-33-19-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 19:23.07 | nevcairiel | for the MS compiler, the intel compiler still seems to beat it in some areas |
| 19:23.20 | Shirik | I will admit intel's compiler is quite good as well |
| 19:23.25 | Shirik | but to be fair |
| 19:23.37 | Shirik | They know things about their architecture that even god doesn't know |
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| 19:24.21 | Shirik | There is one thing I wish VS were better at, which is complex SSE vectorization in misaligned configurations |
| 19:24.54 | Shirik | I wrote a paper on that, I was able to get about a 5x speedup by hand writing code over VS's fully optimized compiled code for a vision processing application |
| 19:25.00 | Shirik | VS does not handle misaligned cases well |
| 19:25.09 | Shirik | as soon as it sees misalignment it gives up all vectorization attempts, it seems |
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| 19:28.54 | Thunder_Child | awesome, copy pasting from word to gmail crashed explorer |
| 19:28.54 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:28.54 | Fisker | IE9 > * |
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| 19:29.12 | [SW]Dodge | ie9? |
| 19:29.15 | [SW]Dodge | Oo |
| 19:29.20 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:29.24 | Fisker | GPU Rendering |
| 19:29.34 | Fisker | going to be interesting what they can do with that |
| 19:29.55 | nevcairiel | like web sites are so complex to display |
| 19:29.56 | durcyn | nothing well. |
| 19:30.45 | nevcairiel | flash 10.1 has gpu acceleration now as well, which is great for smartphones etc, however on a pc .. who cares |
| 19:30.52 | nevcairiel | its a freaking web site |
| 19:31.36 | KarlKFI|work | flash is used for many games |
| 19:31.55 | Fisker | probably going to be used for javascript etc. as well |
| 19:32.03 | KarlKFI|work | and even inside retail games for gui elements |
| 19:32.13 | Kraps | is fever a symptom of sleep deprivation? |
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| 19:32.34 | [SW]Dodge | i bet in some years u need a high end pc with uber-graphiccard just for browsing the www :/ |
| 19:32.46 | nevcairiel | You can't run javascript on the GPU |
| 19:32.56 | nevcairiel | they are only good at parallized FPU operations |
| 19:33.18 | KarlKFI|work | in some years todays high end pc will be commonplace |
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| 19:33.54 | alestane | nevcairiel: I don't fully grasp the details yet, but Snow Leopard is supposed to include a platform that allows allows software developers to use the GPU as extra processing power in non-graphics-intensive applications. |
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| 19:34.26 | KarlKFI|work | OpenCL |
| 19:34.34 | nevcairiel | It doesnt have to be graphic, it just has to involve floating point calculatons to really pay off |
| 19:34.56 | nevcairiel | even better if you can highly parallize them |
| 19:35.27 | nevcairiel | CUDA can already be used for all kinds of stuff |
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| 19:35.35 | nevcairiel | OpenCL is an attempt at a GFX-agnostic API |
| 19:37.27 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Flash is hardcore ok |
| 19:37.34 | Shirik | needs hardware acceleration |
| 19:37.47 | nevcairiel | Like i said, its nice on smartdevices |
| 19:38.07 | nevcairiel | however for PCs, its just another marketing rush for flash :P |
| 19:38.56 | nevcairiel | on that note, i hope i get my phone before i leave for a long weekend =/ |
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| 19:45.13 | Shirik | nevcairiel: smart devices with graphics cards huh |
| 19:46.07 | nevcairiel | well of course they have a dedicated gfx chip |
| 19:46.44 | Shirik | nVidia 7800GT |
| 19:46.48 | Shirik | with heatsink |
| 19:46.49 | Shirik | and fan |
| 19:48.58 | nevcairiel | more like a PowerVR SGX 530 |
| 19:50.07 | Lunessa | Kraps: Exhaustion/Sleep Deprivation can have a fever as a symptom - usually low-grade. |
| 19:51.33 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: You order a droid? |
| 19:51.42 | nevcairiel | well a milestone, but yes |
| 19:52.01 | NightHawkTheSane | same diff, but with less navigation and more pinching. |
| 19:52.04 | Shirik | nevcairiel, shoulda gotten a storm |
| 19:52.10 | Shirik | omg Lopeppeppy, are you on BB OS 5.0? |
| 19:52.15 | Shirik | it is teh sexx |
| 19:52.26 | Shirik | I don't know what BBs can take it though |
| 19:52.35 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: more importenly with GSM/UMTS instead of CDMA .. wouldnt be much use for me other wise =P |
| 19:52.44 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: indeed. fucker. |
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| 19:52.55 | Shirik | Pearl Flip 8220/8230, Curve 8330/8350i/8900, Bold 9000, Storm 9500/9530 and Tour 9630 |
| 19:53.01 | Shirik | not sure what you have Lopeppeppy |
| 19:53.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i should check to see how successfully people have hacked navigation into the g1 |
| 19:53.09 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i don't like the layout of the blackberry phones |
| 19:53.16 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Fair enough |
| 19:53.22 | Shirik | I like it, but perhaps that's because I use it for a lot of work |
| 19:53.25 | Shirik | and not so much play |
| 19:53.45 | Shirik | everyone is different. If we weren't, then there would be only one phone |
| 19:53.53 | Shirik | and I swear if that phone were an iphone I would kill myself |
| 19:53.59 | Shirik | or become antisocial at least |
| 19:53.59 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: for the navigation, my theory is still that google will open it for the EU later, just not ready with data and/or licensing issues .. not sure where they got their map material |
| 19:54.34 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: probably so, hopefully at least. |
| 19:54.54 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Wouldn't be surprised. That was hard enough for us to get for the US |
| 19:55.00 | Shirik | wouldn't want to think about the entire world |
| 19:55.05 | kdtresh | anybody have any idea why a fauxscrollframe's tooltips might die if its parent frame was hidden and then shown again? |
| 19:55.10 | nevcairiel | I do hope, would enjoy free navigation |
| 19:55.21 | Shirik | ~fauxscrollframe |
| 19:55.22 | purl | well, fauxscrollframe is one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. Mikk says: Just use a Slider. |
| 19:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: well the data is mostly there already |
| 19:56.04 | nevcairiel | Wonder when someone will build a navigation solution on open-street-maps |
| 19:56.19 | Shirik | open-street-maps? |
| 19:56.33 | nevcairiel | a wiki for maps |
| 19:56.39 | Shirik | huh |
| 19:56.40 | nevcairiel | more or less |
| 19:56.41 | Shirik | interesting concept |
| 19:56.45 | Shirik | but where do you get the data from? |
| 19:56.46 | nevcairiel | users fill in street data |
| 19:56.49 | nevcairiel | no licensing |
| 19:56.49 | Shirik | it has to come from somewhere |
| 19:56.52 | NightHawkTheSane | openstreetmap.org i assume |
| 19:56.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ? |
| 19:57.13 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:57.30 | nevcairiel | They have satellite images from somewhere that you can use to re-draw the streets |
| 19:57.42 | nevcairiel | or just grab a GPS phone and an app, and travel along and let it record |
| 19:58.04 | nevcairiel | in my area here its quite complete |
| 19:59.24 | NightHawkTheSane | thats pretty neat |
| 20:00.35 | nevcairiel | since some users are pretty OCD, in some areas you have more details then on any other map |
| 20:00.40 | theorbtwo | There *is* a routing interface on top of OSM. IIRC, two... though I can't remember either of the names. |
| 20:03.07 | Shirik | nevcairiel: What kind of filtering do they do? |
| 20:03.12 | Shirik | to ensure accuracy |
| 20:03.34 | KarlKFI|work | http://offmap.net/ |
| 20:04.37 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure, a friend of mine was really into OSM and i asked him that once, but i forgot the reply |
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| 20:06.55 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Norgs! |
| 20:07.43 | theorbtwo | The short answer is that they don't do filtering, they rely on humans editing. |
| 20:07.50 | nevcairiel | I mean, in some areas they have small shapes of the houses with the numbers in them, try finding that accurarcy on google maps |
| 20:07.56 | nevcairiel | its insane what people do for that .P |
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| 20:10.45 | NeoTron | wow ICC will have a rather elaborate setup |
| 20:11.00 | NeoTron | gated content, limited tries, zone-wide buff that increases in potency over time etc |
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| 20:11.16 | Shirik | how does Cairenn know literally everyone's birthday |
| 20:11.17 | Shirik | LITERALLY |
| 20:11.29 | Cairenn | I don't know /everyone's/ |
| 20:11.51 | NeoTron | bet my birthday is unknown :P |
| 20:11.57 | Lopeppeppy | She writes them down when she hears them, Shirik. Hello, organized! |
| 20:12.08 | Shirik | what is organization |
| 20:12.17 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly your problem, boyo. |
| 20:12.50 | Cairenn | ~organization |
| 20:12.59 | Lopeppeppy | For example, I just added that info into my Birthdays google calendar, now I will remember it forever!! |
| 20:13.02 | Lunessa | Shirik: She slipped me Sodium Pentathol at BlizzCon to get mine. |
| 20:13.12 | Shirik | ! |
| 20:13.16 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:13.17 | Shirik | she would totally do it too |
| 20:13.27 | Shirik | or some of that blue stuff |
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| 20:14.06 | zenzelezz | Cairenn never mentioned mine |
| 20:14.29 | Shirik | she obviously hates you |
| 20:14.43 | zenzelezz | would be normal for a stalker |
| 20:15.00 | Cairenn | NeoTron: wanna bet? |
| 20:15.49 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: because it hasn't rolled around yet |
| 20:18.03 | alestane | Since I think a number of the people in this room have common interests, I'll see if anyone else has heard of this: a while ago, I saw a picture and link for some tabletop roleplaying/miniatures gaming accessories...they were little plastic corner pieces meant to fit between squares of a map, to delineate temporary effects or zones on the map, and stylized with flames or other aesthetic touches. Now I can't remember who made them or w |
| 20:18.03 | alestane | saw the link (I think it was on ENWorld, but long enough ago that they don't list it anymore). Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? |
| 20:18.14 | Ackis | I wonder if we'll ever celebrate clonedays, or hatchdays? |
| 20:20.44 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: not off hand, but if you ever do find out, let me know, those sound realy awesome. |
| 20:20.48 | ZorbaTHut | or uploaddays |
| 20:20.50 | Kraps | Ackis: i dont get the appeal of clones, do you know how many thing will have to change just on the human rights/social aspects of life alone? |
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| 20:21.29 | Shirik | happy birthday Cairenn |
| 20:21.35 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 20:21.38 | Ackis | sends the clones at Kraps |
| 20:21.38 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: alternately, it sounds pretty easy to make some of those with card paper or something. |
| 20:21.39 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, sentient clones are problematical and I suspect will never be popular. nonsentient clones for body parts, or for entire bodies aimed at brain/personality/memory transplants, may be a different matter entirely |
| 20:21.42 | Cairenn | hehehehe, you're a bit early Shirik |
| 20:21.48 | Shirik | I will say happy birthday every day for the next 365 days |
| 20:21.51 | Shirik | eventually I'll get it right |
| 20:21.52 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:22.10 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I'd honestly just use some cheap beads from the jewelry section. |
| 20:22.17 | Cairenn | you only need to do it for 30 - I'll give you this much - it's in January |
| 20:22.38 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: we are already doing the nonsetiant thing, growing limbs and such in labs |
| 20:22.43 | alestane | Shirik: The only blue stuff I remember from Cairenn and BlizzCon was those AMFs she kept ordering. |
| 20:22.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i bet if you grepped the logs enough you could figure it out |
| 20:22.54 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, human limbs? first I've heard of that |
| 20:24.24 | Kraps | but sentient clones are a science engineers wet dream |
| 20:24.38 | NeoTron | Cairenn: I am not the betting kind of person.. :P |
| 20:24.44 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | goes and updates her birthday calendar with all sorts of lounge lizards! |
| 20:26.36 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: maybe not full limbs but parts and some organs |
| 20:26.50 | ZorbaTHut | organs, yeah, that's being worked on |
| 20:27.01 | ZorbaTHut | though I'm not sure they're being used medically yet, but there's heavy research going on |
| 20:27.22 | ZorbaTHut | right now the best attempt we have at limbs is cyberlimbs, which are also coming along nicely. the world in twenty years is going to be quite an odd place |
| 20:27.33 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb cloned food.. |
| 20:27.49 | zenzelezz | <Cairenn> zenzelezz: because it hasn't rolled around yet <-- you're right, I've only been hanging here for years =D |
| 20:27.51 | Ackis | clones a human for NightHawkTheSane to eat. |
| 20:28.01 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: wts soylent green :p |
| 20:28.04 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: I mean lately |
| 20:28.05 | Cairenn | :p |
| 20:28.17 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 20:28.22 | zenzelezz | I was just messing |
| 20:28.28 | Cairenn | huggles zenzelezz |
| 20:28.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd totally eat soylent green. |
| 20:28.44 | Kraps | :( |
| 20:28.48 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 20:28.59 | Shirik | I'd eat icelandic ultra blue |
| 20:30.23 | Lopeppeppy | Found you! |
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| 20:31.30 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, get back here, I just found you! |
| 20:33.01 | Kraps | srsly, who would want to live on mockingbird lane? |
| 20:33.15 | cbreak | hungry kittens? |
| 20:33.32 | Kraps | its in baton rouge |
| 20:33.40 | Kraps | wut? |
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| 20:35.22 | Kraps | oh it is spelled right |
| 20:35.52 | Lunessa | I love that we have a city named "Red Stick" |
| 20:37.00 | zenzelezz | "'There's a rounding-error bug in the camera driver's autofocus routine (which uses a timestamp) that causes autofocus to behave poorly on a 24.5-day cycle,' said Morrill. 'That is, it'll work for 24.5 days, then have poor performance for 24.5 days, then work again.The 17th is the start of a new "works correctly" cycle, so the devices will be fine for a while. A permanent fix is in the works.'" |
| 20:37.01 | zenzelezz | heh |
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| 20:37.47 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: yeah, that amused me |
| 20:37.59 | zenzelezz | hey, wow... Samsung sponsoring Enlightenment :-o |
| 20:38.47 | Shishire_ | In case anyone is interested, I just wrote an article about register vs. hook methods for building an event driven application... And I gave it a bit of WoW flavor: http://blog.shishire.com/2009/11/event-driven-programming-hook-vs.html |
| 20:40.54 | Lopeppeppy | I wish to announce that I am ancient! |
| 20:40.58 | Lopeppeppy | All take note. Rawr. |
| 20:41.51 | zenzelezz | then let us retreat to your strand |
| 20:42.04 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, no you are not |
| 20:42.16 | Shirik | you will always be.... 21? |
| 20:42.21 | Shirik | what age do women want to be |
| 20:42.27 | Shirik | 18? |
| 20:42.28 | Shirik | 4? |
| 20:42.40 | Shirik | -3? |
| 20:42.43 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You are not ancient. You're well-aged, adding subtle hints and lingering joy to your essential qualities. |
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| 20:42.51 | Kraps | lol Shirik |
| 20:43.22 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, I'm a cheese! |
| 20:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | <3 |
| 20:43.33 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:43.42 | Lunessa | I was going for 'wine' but hey, whatever rocks your socks. |
| 20:44.26 | Lopeppeppy | My socks are not rocked. *sniff* |
| 20:45.10 | Shirik | so much I could say but I think Lopeppeppy would bite my head off |
| 20:45.21 | Shishire_ | I've got some spare basalt, you might be able to outline your socks in it... |
| 20:46.12 | Kraps | i feel pronked |
| 20:46.28 | Shirik | pronked? |
| 20:46.56 | Kraps | pronkability |
| 20:47.30 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles up to Shirik. |
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| 20:47.40 | Shirik | comforts Lopeppeppy |
| 20:49.22 | Kraps | shows Lopeppeppy and Shirik a room |
| 20:49.33 | Shirik | nah I would never be evil like that |
| 20:50.03 | alestane | Peppy belongs to all of us. Most especially herself. |
| 20:50.30 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. |
| 20:50.37 | ZorbaTHut | hey cairenn, still around? |
| 20:51.13 | Cairenn | ZorbaTHut: nope |
| 20:51.25 | ZorbaTHut | dang. if you were around, would you mind if I /msged you? |
| 20:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | She's in that room that Shirik and I don't need. |
| 20:51.34 | Cairenn | It would offend me greatly |
| 20:51.46 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 20:51.49 | ZorbaTHut | alright I'm gonna assume that was exactly as correct as your previous statement :) |
| 20:51.53 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 20:52.14 | Cairenn | waits for the ping |
| 20:52.26 | Kraps | first! |
| 20:52.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sleepy and I hurt absolutely everywhere. Rawr, is it time to go home yet? |
| 20:55.46 | Kraps | i think i'm sleep deprived Lopeppeppy |
| 20:56.46 | Lopeppeppy | definately nap time then |
| 20:57.07 | Kraps | cant do that at work :( |
| 20:57.26 | Lopeppeppy | Me either, that's why I want to go home. Half an hour here. |
| 20:58.31 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy :( I know how you feel |
| 20:58.37 | Shirik | I had 3 hours of sleep last night and nothing but problems today |
| 20:58.49 | mikma | http://www.luxury4play.com/automotive/36568-worlds-most-beautiful-garages-exotics-insane-garage-picture-thread-50-pics.html |
| 21:00.15 | NightHawkTheSane | you all need to sleep more. |
| 21:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not sleeping either, Shirik.... I think I need an industrial sized hammer tonight. |
| 21:01.03 | Kraps | acme inc has some |
| 21:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a little 5mg tablet that will put you to sleep in 2h or less |
| 21:01.21 | nicoli_s | gimme |
| 21:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | You won't wake up for 14 hours, and when you do you'll be dead tired for another day |
| 21:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | But it'll put you to bed |
| 21:01.33 | nicoli_s | oh thats no fun |
| 21:02.07 | Lopeppeppy | I'd do it though. |
| 21:02.25 | Lopeppeppy | Just once a week, just for a chance. I have no idea how much of everything-else is based off insomnia. |
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| 21:05.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: probably quite a bit |
| 21:05.06 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Like Captain Hammer? |
| 21:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, usually is, insomnia feeds any number of other things. |
| 21:06.59 | Thunder_Child | heh, i didnt know the guys behind MW2 had a thing for the movie 'The Rock' |
| 21:07.23 | Lopeppeppy | Paper or plastic! Paper or plastic! |
| 21:09.44 | Shirik | gives Lopeppeppy one of those green reusable bags |
| 21:10.54 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: the connery/cage one? |
| 21:11.29 | Ackis | twitters your face in! |
| 21:11.32 | Shirik | anyway Lopeppeppy I hope you get good sleepies tonight :) |
| 21:11.42 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, yes |
| 21:11.56 | Kraps | good stuff |
| 21:12.01 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/MMOUI/wow-ui-devs <-- super important twitter list! follow it! |
| 21:12.06 | Thunder_Child | there was an entire scene in MW2 that was a similar recreation |
| 21:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | Valerian is my drug of choice, I'll be trying hard, Shirik. You too, okay? |
| 21:12.27 | Shirik | I have not given into temptation and avoided starbucks |
| 21:12.31 | Shirik | so I'm ok :) |
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| 21:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | Good. *hug* |
| 21:15.29 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: is that game worth $60? |
| 21:16.25 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, thats subjective |
| 21:16.42 | Kraps | yeah i know :/ |
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| 21:18.53 | Arrowmaster | imho yes |
| 21:19.07 | Arrowmaster | ive already spent 2days 6hours playing multiplayer |
| 21:19.18 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, your 'o' was never 'h' |
| 21:19.20 | Arrowmaster | lvl 61 |
| 21:19.24 | cogwheel | lambdas your calculus |
| 21:20.08 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: did you play cod4 and like it? |
| 21:21.01 | Shirik | in soviet russia, calculus lambdas you |
| 21:21.05 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: i didnt finish it actually |
| 21:21.35 | Kraps | i'm going, later |
| 21:22.56 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 21:23.22 | Shirik | gives Lopeppeppy a cookie |
| 21:23.37 | harl | knurr |
| 21:24.16 | Lopeppeppy | Coooooookie! For meeeeeeee! |
| 21:26.11 | cogwheel | ooh background downloader activate! |
| 21:26.16 | Shishire_ | really? |
| 21:26.24 | Kandoko | 448 MB |
| 21:26.31 | Shishire_ | !!!! |
| 21:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, they posted today that they're starting the background downloader, because the patch is so large. they can push out what is totally done, at least. |
| 21:27.17 | krka | for us only or eu as well? |
| 21:27.23 | Lopeppeppy | Unsure. |
| 21:27.27 | Shishire_ | rpd via IE on a crappy computer to start it up from work :D |
| 21:27.38 | Kandoko | uTorrent speed is quite nice atm. Blizz needs to throttle their upload speed. There download is set to high and chocks my connection :(\ |
| 21:27.59 | Shishire_ | the blizz downloader needs a throttling option |
| 21:28.01 | Shishire_ | always has |
| 21:28.09 | Arrowmaster | MW2 HTDM time |
| 21:28.32 | nicoli_s | htdm? |
| 21:28.40 | Arrowmaster | hardcore team deathmatch |
| 21:29.35 | Kandoko | Wonders if the curse store will offer Blizzard store items. Wants the pets hates outright buying em :P |
| 21:29.47 | cogwheel | ... just got whispers: "H ToC?" ... "can u tank or heal?" |
| 21:29.52 | cogwheel | umm... i'm a warrior |
| 21:29.53 | Balreign | When you open the background downloader, on the right of the image... isn't that Karrigan? |
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| 21:30.01 | ZorbaTHut | cogwheel, tell 'em you're holy spec |
| 21:30.05 | ZorbaTHut | see how long it takes them to figure it out |
| 21:30.30 | krka | wtf wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Wow.exe": Module not found |
| 21:30.31 | cbreak | maybe you could use the pet as means to buy wow gold from real money |
| 21:30.31 | Kandoko | cogwheel: Warrior Bandage spec is top class. Im ashamed you didn't know the healing potential your class brinsg |
| 21:30.38 | cbreak | buy a pet from blizzard |
| 21:30.42 | cbreak | and sell it in /trade |
| 21:30.50 | krka | i think wow updater messed up my installation dir |
| 21:30.52 | krka | O_o |
| 21:31.02 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, you can already do that with TCG mounts |
| 21:31.27 | cbreak | only if you have at least trace ammounts of luck... |
| 21:31.42 | ZorbaTHut | buy tcg mount off ebay |
| 21:32.03 | Kandoko | cbreak: Since all the mounts from the Trading card game are BOE and can be placed on the AH. If you want to dump money for Wow gold there's the ticket |
| 21:32.59 | cbreak | I am more interested in getting real money for wow gold... but I guess most people aren't prepared to pay my prices |
| 21:33.23 | Shirik | krka: Don't you keep your WoW in System32? |
| 21:33.50 | cbreak | System32? |
| 21:34.02 | cbreak | too much stuff in there |
| 21:34.49 | krka | that wasn't really the problem |
| 21:35.03 | krka | the problem is that the launcher apparently changes the access rights of my wotlk-folder |
| 21:35.28 | krka | d----wS--- 14 krka krka 4096 2009-11-18 22:31 wotlk |
| 21:35.34 | krka | i mean... wtf? |
| 21:35.50 | krka | i have to manually chmod -R 700 to be able to access it |
| 21:35.56 | Shishire_ | group only write?! what the hell? |
| 21:36.23 | krka | anyone else had any similar problem with wine and recent wow? |
| 21:37.11 | Shirik | lmao group only write |
| 21:38.17 | krka | nice http://old.nabble.com/New-WoW-Launcher.exe-changes-directory-permissions-td26309920.html |
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| 21:48.00 | cbreak | luckily the launcher isn't mandatory |
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| 21:54.32 | Thunder_Child | why would anyone make a product that caost $666.66 |
| 21:55.05 | Balreign | and why not? |
| 21:55.17 | Thunder_Child | negitive connotations |
| 21:55.33 | Shirik | omg winnnnnnn |
| 21:55.40 | Shirik | Someone broke the vending machine |
| 21:55.48 | Shirik | I'm not sure if this is a hack or what |
| 21:56.00 | Shirik | but it says "$99.95" and "Exact change required" |
| 21:56.16 | Shirik | I assume the latter is because it is somewhat incapable of giving out $99.95 in change :P |
| 21:56.42 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, because they're a geek and think it's an entertaining number |
| 21:56.50 | nicoli_s | i wonder if you can set it negative and make it give you money |
| 21:57.00 | ZorbaTHut | I also think that "666" maybe didn't have as many negative connotations back then as it does now |
| 21:57.58 | Thunder_Child | actually i think thats backwards |
| 21:59.58 | Shirik | 666 is backwards? |
| 22:00.14 | Shirik | oh you think it had more negative connotations back then? |
| 22:00.15 | Thunder_Child | no, i think it meant more back then |
| 22:00.28 | Shirik | I think people use 666 primarily as a joke now |
| 22:01.02 | nicoli_s | the number of the beast is nothing to joke about |
| 22:01.25 | Thunder_Child | yes it is |
| 22:02.53 | Shirik | Thunder_Child have you ever done panoramas? |
| 22:02.58 | Shirik | do you do them frequently? |
| 22:03.21 | Thunder_Child | not frequently since i dont get out to shoot much |
| 22:03.38 | Shirik | enough to know a thing or two about panoramas? |
| 22:03.46 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 22:03.47 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:03.54 | Shirik | I'm curious how you take them |
| 22:04.02 | Shirik | do you attach the short ends or the long ends? |
| 22:04.02 | Thunder_Child | with a camera |
| 22:04.27 | Thunder_Child | you mean horizontal or verticle? |
| 22:04.46 | Ackis | 666 == God to islams iirc |
| 22:04.48 | Shirik | well I don't think that's fair to say because you might take a horizontal, e.g., 180 panorama, with the camera tilted |
| 22:04.48 | Thunder_Child | vertical* |
| 22:04.52 | Adys_ | attaches Shirik's short end |
| 22:04.58 | Shirik | so you would still be attaching the long ends in that direction |
| 22:05.10 | nicoli_s | yer just being racist ackis |
| 22:05.21 | Ackis | nicoli_s: no :P |
| 22:06.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i dont think i am understanding the question. i attach the ends that have matching peices on other shots |
| 22:06.07 | Thunder_Child | regardless of direction |
| 22:07.21 | Shirik | heh |
| 22:07.30 | Shirik | I don't really know how to describe this |
| 22:07.38 | Shirik | like ok you're going to do a 180 rotatio |
| 22:07.45 | Fisker | W |
| 22:07.46 | Fisker | T |
| 22:07.46 | Fisker | F |
| 22:07.48 | Shirik | along which axis do you rotate? |
| 22:07.54 | Shirik | like |
| 22:07.55 | Fisker | Blizzard's new idea at raid progression |
| 22:07.58 | Shirik | sigh |
| 22:08.00 | Shirik | I don't know how to explain this |
| 22:08.05 | Thunder_Child | ah, from the users orientation? |
| 22:08.09 | Thunder_Child | vs. the iamges |
| 22:08.14 | Thunder_Child | images* |
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| 22:08.34 | Shirik | yes I mean the image will show up the same of course |
| 22:08.41 | Shirik | but how is the camera oriented to take the picture |
| 22:09.15 | Shirik | let me draw a diagram I guess |
| 22:09.17 | Thunder_Child | like, horizontal to the ground? |
| 22:10.13 | NightHawkTheSane | what the crap? http://gizmodo.com/5407410/application-makes-your-iphone-blow-air |
| 22:10.36 | Torhal | EEEEEEEENTERESTING: http://toki-woki.net/p/scroll-clock/ |
| 22:11.49 | Balreign | Torhal, indeed |
| 22:12.05 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/57fc642a7289c467803677d22505c51f.png |
| 22:12.19 | Shirik | Both are taken as horizontal panos (like perhaps a landscape) |
| 22:12.29 | Thunder_Child | i understand |
| 22:12.30 | Shirik | red yellow and blue are 3 shots |
| 22:12.37 | Shirik | and then the mixed colors are as overlapped |
| 22:13.03 | Shirik | I have tended to take it in the bottom configuration, but I have seen a lot of people using the top configuration |
| 22:13.08 | Thunder_Child | i do the lower, i would never do the upper, if i needed more than would fit in the scope i would take a second tier of images |
| 22:14.21 | Shirik | ok |
| 22:14.23 | Shirik | just wondering |
| 22:14.27 | Shirik | ty :) |
| 22:14.37 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 22:14.50 | Shirik | I'm not sure why people would do the upper one |
| 22:15.01 | Shirik | it just seems like there's a lot out there that do and it leads me to think I'm missing something |
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| 22:15.39 | Thunder_Child | win http://gizmodo.com/5407577/the-spica-water-speaker-allows-you-to-experience-music-in-uncomfortable-new-ways |
| 22:15.48 | Ackis | am I wrong for liking this: http://twitter.com/common_squirrel |
| 22:16.08 | Shirik | you are a canadian, so it is ok |
| 22:16.09 | Shirik | wait |
| 22:16.12 | ZorbaTHut | I approve of that |
| 22:16.12 | Shirik | you're not Adys |
| 22:16.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i imagine it depends on what exactly you want the picture to be of.. |
| 22:16.33 | Ackis | I'm not Adys_? |
| 22:16.50 | Shirik | no you are not |
| 22:16.54 | Shirik | you are merely a man with an A |
| 22:17.36 | Aelo | the best type of man |
| 22:17.41 | Ackis | I'm the main man with the A |
| 22:17.43 | Ackis | eh? |
| 22:17.59 | Ackis | tbh my name came from a name generator |
| 22:18.20 | Ackis | I'm not creative enough to come up with something like Ackis on my own |
| 22:18.50 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 22:18.58 | Shirik | Ackis you aren't canadian are you? |
| 22:19.10 | Ackis | I am |
| 22:19.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:19.21 | Ackis | so I'm confused |
| 22:19.22 | Shirik | ok then you can in fact be forgiven for liking that twitter feed |
| 22:19.24 | WobWork | he said 'eh' didn't he? |
| 22:19.31 | Shirik | canadians like squirrels |
| 22:19.33 | Ackis | Adys_ is Canadian? |
| 22:19.35 | Shirik | known fact |
| 22:19.38 | Shirik | I believe so yes |
| 22:19.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, we do? |
| 22:19.51 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:19.53 | Ackis | squirrels and maple syrrup |
| 22:19.53 | WobWork | You totally do |
| 22:20.00 | Shirik | you're canadian Thunder_Child?! |
| 22:20.06 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:20.08 | Ackis | I was made fun of once for talking to a squirrel :( |
| 22:20.16 | Shirik | then yes, you do |
| 22:20.32 | Thunder_Child | good to know then |
| 22:20.38 | NightHawkTheSane | squirrels are awesome. |
| 22:21.03 | Ackis | the squirrel is staring |
| 22:22.19 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/big_ben_clock is also interesting |
| 22:22.34 | Shirik | lol wtf |
| 22:22.49 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, less so, but a bit |
| 22:26.06 | NightHawkTheSane | whats most amazing about the squirrel bit, is that someone has been keeping up with posting that... 4275 times |
| 22:26.52 | Aelo | probably canadian? :P |
| 22:27.11 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect the squirrel is a script |
| 22:27.28 | ZorbaTHut | http://twitter.com/flappitybat probably isn't |
| 22:31.38 | Shirik | twitter people are strange |
| 22:31.45 | Shirik | twitterers? |
| 22:31.48 | Shirik | tweeters? |
| 22:31.56 | Shirik | twits? |
| 22:31.58 | Adys | twats |
| 22:32.40 | Thunder_Child | idiots |
| 22:32.42 | Shirik | ^ |
| 22:32.48 | Teomyr | adys: quotes |
| 22:34.01 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 22:34.01 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 22:34.50 | Adys | Teomyr: I didn't know you still had an irc client. |
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| 22:46.05 | tem | Oh god |
| 22:46.09 | tem | World of Casualcraft strikes again |
| 22:46.25 | tem | Casual Crown Citadel? |
| 22:46.33 | tem | Ice Crown Casual-Raid? |
| 22:46.42 | tem | Ice Cream Casualland? |
| 22:46.42 | Thunder_Child | ~qq tem |
| 22:46.43 | purl | CRY MOAR tem |
| 22:46.54 | p3lim | What is the difference between ipairs and pairs? |
| 22:47.01 | Thunder_Child | an 'i' |
| 22:47.04 | tem | ipairs only interates integer keys |
| 22:47.08 | tem | iterates* |
| 22:47.14 | tem | and it stops when it gets to a gap |
| 22:47.24 | NeoTron | tem: well, 15 tries total to kill the last 4 bosses smells like pug fail possibilities :P |
| 22:47.37 | Thunder_Child | in the begning |
| 22:47.40 | tem | The Aura from Wrynn |
| 22:47.42 | Thunder_Child | you get more as time goes on |
| 22:48.04 | tem | lua> t = {1,2,3,nil,4,5,6} for i in ipairs(t) do print(i) end |
| 22:48.06 | lua_bot | tem: 1, 2, 3 |
| 22:48.12 | tem | lua> t = {1,2,3,nil,4,5,6} for i in pairs(t) do print(i) end |
| 22:48.14 | lua_bot | tem: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7 |
| 22:48.29 | tem | lua> t = {a=0,1,2,3,nil,4,5,6} for i in pairs(t) do print(i) end |
| 22:48.31 | lua_bot | tem: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, a |
| 22:48.35 | tem | lua> t = {a=0,1,2,3,nil,4,5,6} for i in ipairs(t) do print(i) end |
| 22:48.36 | lua_bot | tem: 1, 2, 3 |
| 22:48.41 | tem | p3lim, ^ |
| 22:48.57 | Adys | night twatzors |
| 22:49.15 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Adys |
| 22:49.16 | purl | Adys, you Fail! |
| 22:49.27 | Aelo | http://fantasticcontraption.com |
| 22:53.03 | p3lim | tem: thanks, explained perfectly |
| 22:53.32 | zenzelezz | cats cannot taste sugar? o_O |
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| 22:56.43 | zenzelezz | 370'000 results for "can cats drink milk" on Google... |
| 22:57.48 | nicoli_s | cats def can drink milk |
| 22:58.02 | zenzelezz | I wonder who has to google that |
| 22:58.06 | Torhal | Should they, though? Probably not. |
| 22:58.10 | Torhal | Lactose! |
| 22:58.51 | zenzelezz | http://artsyspot.com/seventeen-things-worth-knowing-about-your-cat/ |
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| 23:05.10 | WobWork | Great book title, or greatest book title? http://www.amazon.com/WHAT-THESE-STRAWBERRIES-DOING-NIPPLES/dp/075151005X |
| 23:09.19 | WobWork | truly, google predictive is awesome |
| 23:09.22 | WobWork | try 'why ' |
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| 23:11.25 | nicoli_s | lol, been reading that google suggest blog wob? |
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| 23:18.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: burning f12 dvd... anything I need to know beforehand? |
| 23:18.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: IT'S A TRAP! |
| 23:19.04 | nicoli_s | yer comp will be come self aware, then commit suicide |
| 23:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> if ("NightHawkTheSane" ~= "kd3") then print("fail, NHTS") end |
| 23:19.18 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: fail, NHTS |
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| 23:29.04 | haste | ScytheBlade1: users have root access |
| 23:29.28 | kd3 | sbo; nothing much. if you're using the nvidia driver there's a few gotchas |
| 23:29.38 | kd3 | other than that, it's all good this time around |
| 23:29.52 | haste | (and users have packagekit access!) |
| 23:30.10 | haste | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/11/18/2039229/Fedora-12-Lets-Users-Install-Signed-Packages-Sans-Root-Privileges ! |
| 23:30.36 | kd3 | whuh? |
| 23:30.47 | kd3 | 's had to su to install anything |
| 23:30.58 | haste | you can only insall "signed" packages |
| 23:31.03 | durcyn | whoop de doo, so /usr/bin/rpm is suid now |
| 23:31.24 | durcyn | call me when red hat becomes relevant again |
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| 23:33.15 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: been using nouveau anyway |
| 23:33.57 | haste | goes to bed |
| 23:36.52 | ScytheBlade1 | 1543 packages to upgrade... |
| 23:37.45 | Lopeppeppy | 1543 bottles of beer on the wall, 1543 bottles to go.... |
| 23:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | pretty much |
| 23:38.44 | Jerub | speaking of bottles |
| 23:38.44 | Jerub | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091116/ap_on_bi_ge/as_odd_new_zealand_antarctic_whiskey |
| 23:38.44 | Lunessa | 1500th verse, same as the first. |
| 23:39.08 | Lopeppeppy | Henry the Eighth I am, I am! |
| 23:43.23 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 23:43.30 | Shirik | you have returned to us |
| 23:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | I did, dear. Boomerang Peppy, that's me! |
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| 23:49.16 | cogwheel | bottles of 1554 beer on the wall, bottles of 1554 beer |
| 23:49.31 | Lopeppeppy | Well-aged? |
| 23:49.35 | cogwheel | http://www.newbelgium.com/beer/1554 |
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| 23:57.22 | WobWork | nicoli_s: nope, what's that? |
