| 00:02.09 | Legorol | I bet this has already been asked a thousand times today, but: has anyone else had a brief client update without the build number changing? |
| 00:02.16 | Legorol | The launcher seemed to have downloaded something |
| 00:02.20 | foxlit | Legorol: yes, launcher patched itself. |
| 00:02.27 | Legorol | oki |
| 00:02.33 | Legorol | then i'm not paranoid anymore |
| 00:02.41 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 00:02.51 | Legorol | :) |
| 00:03.06 | Legorol | Just because my Launcher is patched, doesn't mean they are not after you Thunder_Child |
| 00:03.07 | Esine | lolll this is the best troll. In BG you use /me emote so that it appears to others as "X has reported you AFK. You will no longer receive marks of honor. If you wish to appeal this report, please type /AFK dispute" |
| 00:03.16 | Esine | I fell for it :-( |
| 00:03.23 | Legorol | rofl |
| 00:03.30 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, oh i know they are after me. |
| 00:03.41 | Legorol | Esine: but emotes and system messages are different colours |
| 00:03.54 | Thunder_Child | but people dont know that |
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| 00:03.56 | Esine | Legorol: not many people will pay attention |
| 00:04.09 | Legorol | ok, I *am* paranoid because i usually notice such stuff |
| 00:06.56 | Shirik | Esine: Old :P |
| 00:07.20 | Esine | I've seen a /gquit variation of that, but that's pretty much it |
| 00:07.26 | Shirik | Actually |
| 00:07.28 | Shirik | yeah |
| 00:07.32 | Esine | and of course /disco |
| 00:07.38 | Shirik | I um, did that to one of my guild leaders once >.> |
| 00:07.52 | Shirik | He was leaving my arena team and couldn't figure out how to do it |
| 00:07.56 | Shirik | so I told him /gquit 3v3 |
| 00:08.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:08.21 | Shirik | and then there was another officer that didn't know how to kick people |
| 00:08.25 | Shirik | so I told him /gquit name |
| 00:08.46 | Shirik | And we wonder how so many viruses get installed.... |
| 00:08.57 | Shirik | It must be the addons. I didn't install any keyloggers myself! |
| 00:09.10 | zenzelezz | "Entering zone Newland Desert"... "/shout what's the command to suicide?" ... watch people die as they type "/terminate" instead of "/shout /terminate". Good times |
| 00:09.40 | Shirik | who makes a slash command to suicide >< |
| 00:09.41 | foxlit | What are the wintergrasp rocket launchers called? |
| 00:10.16 | zenzelezz | Shirik: Anarchy Online has one. They added a confirmation dialog eventually |
| 00:10.18 | Industrial | Shirik: most shooters |
| 00:10.38 | Industrial | i guess its pretty handy if you are stuck |
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| 00:33.21 | zenzelezz | god damnit... Bioware didn't care to put "keeps draining mana" in the tooltip for Cleaning Aura. Thanks for letting me waste a skill point like that |
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| 00:35.22 | Kraps | evening |
| 00:35.34 | zenzelezz | hi |
| 00:36.18 | Kraps | how are you this fine evening? |
| 00:36.31 | zenzelezz | out of mana |
| 00:37.12 | Kraps | thats a shame |
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| 00:37.30 | Kraps | http://www.manapotions.com/ |
| 00:38.39 | Lopeppeppy | I think Cog says those are good. |
| 00:39.24 | cbreak | luckily you can respec :) |
| 00:40.11 | Kraps | so the quest tracker is back up |
| 00:40.42 | zenzelezz | respec? |
| 00:43.45 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2009/11/14/patch-3-3-more-community-members-honored-with-item-names/ |
| 00:48.57 | Kraps | so blizzcon wont be in vegas |
| 00:50.02 | Lopeppeppy | Who knows? |
| 00:51.00 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2009/11/13/blizzcon-2010-las-vegas-convention-center-retracts-statements/ |
| 00:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | blizzcon will be wherever blizzard says it will be, when blizzard decides they want to announce it. |
| 00:52.14 | Lopeppeppy | That just means "oops, we shouldn't have said anything yet" :) |
| 00:52.14 | NightHawkTheSane | any speculation beyond then, is just that. |
| 00:52.19 | NightHawkTheSane | beyond that* |
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| 00:54.22 | Shirik | Kraps: I stand beside my earlier statement |
| 00:54.39 | Shirik | I honestly think wow.com called the las vegas convention center so that they had an active article to produce |
| 00:54.48 | Shirik | they called the convention center as Blizzard |
| 00:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | That could also be excellently true. :) |
| 00:54.57 | Kraps | blizz was like "we havent not said anything about it not maybe being in vegas for certain" |
| 00:55.16 | Kraps | Shirik: could be |
| 00:55.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: wouldn't put it past them |
| 01:00.14 | Kraps | so is dragon age good? |
| 01:01.01 | Trela | I would love to have an item named after my troll. :o |
| 01:01.56 | Cairenn | Kraps: daughter enjoys the hell out of it |
| 01:02.57 | zenzelezz | I find it frustrating, but in a good way |
| 01:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | There is good frustration? |
| 01:05.57 | NightHawkTheSane | rarely, but yes :P |
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| 01:07.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'll trust you, NHTS, I tend to say "no" to that! |
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| 01:09.42 | NightHawkTheSane | well, its like the bit of enjoyment you get from not completely facerolling through something, the enjoyment of having to work through a challenge |
| 01:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 01:10.32 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 01:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ? |
| 01:10.43 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: i dont know what that means |
| 01:10.50 | Kraps | <_< |
| 01:10.53 | Kraps | >_> |
| 01:10.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not on the same subject, NHTS. :P |
| 01:11.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: ... yeah, i just now gathered. |
| 01:11.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Lopeppeppy |
| 01:11.11 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Lopeppeppy's head to break the homerun record |
| 01:11.18 | NightHawkTheSane | my mind is not on that today, honestly :) |
| 01:11.26 | NightHawkTheSane | as odd as that might seem |
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| 01:13.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sick, NHTS, I have an excuse! |
| 01:13.26 | NightHawkTheSane | you dont need an excuse, its okay :) |
| 01:14.18 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs* You're a doll. |
| 01:17.20 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy and gives her a blanket |
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| 01:19.50 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, shirik |
| 01:31.54 | Kraps | people love talking about RL aggro |
| 01:32.01 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2009/11/13/drama-mamas-wife-aggro/5#comments |
| 01:32.12 | Kraps | walls of text |
| 01:32.31 | Lopeppeppy | Don't be a jerk, and you get no "aggro". |
| 01:33.26 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: thats kinda generalizing eh? :) |
| 01:34.18 | A-KO | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of < wins |
| 01:34.28 | Shirik | BS Lopeppeppy |
| 01:34.42 | Shirik | Women have an "angry" timer in them |
| 01:34.47 | Lopeppeppy | Meh? |
| 01:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe, but if so, so do mens. |
| 01:34.59 | Shirik | when it expires, a quantum particle selects an item at random to get angry about |
| 01:35.07 | Shirik | and then yelling ensues |
| 01:35.10 | A-KO | I do not have an angry timer |
| 01:35.18 | A-KO | < male |
| 01:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | I yell a lot at the cars on the road, usually prevents me from needing to yell at people. |
| 01:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | Even today, sick and tired and cranky, I did not yell at the boyfriend. I yelled at cars, and then went home and took a nap. |
| 01:36.09 | Shirik | if that's sufficient to clear your angry buffer so it does not overflow, then you're ok :) |
| 01:36.14 | A-KO | yep |
| 01:36.16 | A-KO | works for me, too |
| 01:36.36 | Lopeppeppy | cars are good to yell at, it doesn't hurt their feelings as long as they are not my car. |
| 01:36.51 | Lopeppeppy | My car gets hurt feelings too often, so I don't yell at him anymore. He costs money when he gets hurt feelings! |
| 01:36.56 | Lopeppeppy | Last time was an oxygen sensor, oiy. |
| 01:37.43 | Kraps | A-KO: you're obviously an america-hating, anti-religious leftwinger |
| 01:37.47 | Kraps | :p |
| 01:38.11 | A-KO | haha Kraps |
| 01:38.16 | A-KO | I don't hate America, I hate idiots though. |
| 01:38.22 | A-KO | so if idiots own America, I still hate the idiots |
| 01:38.24 | A-KO | but not the country |
| 01:38.40 | Dagmar | Let's not mince words. |
| 01:38.42 | A-KO | but as far as that's concerned, I am making plans to raise children in another country :P |
| 01:38.44 | Dagmar | "Racist" is the word you're looking for. |
| 01:39.00 | Thunder_Child | dont hate idiots be amused by them, idiots are everyones biggest source of income |
| 01:39.36 | Kraps | A-KO: :( |
| 01:40.00 | Ginji | you say anti-religious as if it's a bad thing |
| 01:40.30 | Kraps | Dagmar: racists are good. punching them can be cathartic |
| 01:40.48 | Torhal | What you all fail to understand is that the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about. |
| 01:41.06 | A-KO | hell in the US raising your white, anglo-saxon kid with a secondary language is seen as strange :P |
| 01:41.14 | A-KO | and "weird" |
| 01:41.15 | A-KO | lol |
| 01:41.39 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: You know it to be true. |
| 01:42.17 | A-KO | I have come to the conclusion that traffic congestion is usually caused by idiots :P |
| 01:42.47 | Ginji | Most of the things are caused by idiots |
| 01:43.14 | Corrodias | the sad part is that nobody, including you, realizes when they're part of the idiots |
| 01:43.24 | Ginji | Except the problems with the LHC, that's nature working against us |
| 01:43.28 | Corrodias | everybody blames everyone else for problems. "it's the idiots! not me." |
| 01:43.40 | Corrodias | "i'm one of the few smart people" |
| 01:44.02 | Ginji | Oh no, I'm one of the idiots |
| 01:44.10 | Ginji | I like it here |
| 01:44.41 | A-KO | Corrodias: Well, I do have everyone at working thinking I'm a fucking genius :P |
| 01:44.43 | A-KO | if that counts for something |
| 01:45.03 | Ginji | Mowing lawns does not require skill |
| 01:45.03 | A-KO | people working for 20+ years thinking I'm one smart mofo :P |
| 01:45.08 | A-KO | sadly it does not |
| 01:45.24 | A-KO | but pulling IT solutions out of one's ass in a few days does :P |
| 01:45.42 | Ginji | "Have you tried turning it off and on again" |
| 01:45.49 | Ginji | "Throw more hardware at it" |
| 01:45.56 | Ginji | "Outsource to china" |
| 01:46.11 | A-KO | nah, my solution over the next 3 days is going to save the company around $250,000 :P |
| 01:46.13 | A-KO | I should ask for a bonus |
| 01:46.35 | A-KO | another $10K in pay pls, kthx |
| 01:46.41 | Shirik | ask for the $250k |
| 01:46.43 | A-KO | haha |
| 01:46.45 | Ginji | Ohh, you're going illegal on the software front |
| 01:46.59 | A-KO | no, I'm going "Wow, this really isn't worth $250,000" front :P |
| 01:47.17 | A-KO | "I can do similar, better, easier, and significantly cheaper" |
| 01:47.33 | Ginji | Do what? |
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| 01:48.15 | A-KO | some remote management software package that I won't name because I'm weary of mentioning names with figures with regards to pricing :P |
| 01:48.34 | cbreak | ssh ought to be enough for everybody. |
| 01:48.44 | Ginji | Indeed |
| 01:48.49 | A-KO | and all I have to say is |
| 01:48.53 | A-KO | saving that $ is all thanks to Microsoft :P |
| 01:49.14 | cbreak | it's probably responsible for it in the first place |
| 01:49.14 | Ginji | mstsc? |
| 01:49.21 | A-KO | nah |
| 01:49.29 | A-KO | another large company is responsible for that, cbreak :P |
| 01:49.40 | cbreak | adobe? google? |
| 01:49.46 | Ginji | apple |
| 01:49.47 | A-KO | Symantec :P |
| 01:49.47 | cbreak | starts thinking of all big, evil companies |
| 01:49.52 | cbreak | apple's not big |
| 01:49.54 | Ginji | Gah! Fail! |
| 01:49.56 | A-KO | their other products are fine :P |
| 01:49.58 | A-KO | just not this one |
| 01:50.11 | A-KO | and it's all because in Windows 7, the Remote Assistance tool is actually worth a dam nnow |
| 01:50.15 | A-KO | and it's not a convoluted POS :P |
| 01:50.28 | Ginji | That's the first thing I disbale |
| 01:50.30 | cbreak | inferior to SSH. Probably :) |
| 01:50.34 | Ginji | s/disbale/disable/ |
| 01:50.53 | Ginji | RDP is fine, but remote assistance, no thanks |
| 01:50.59 | Dagmar | If you're retarded, sure. |
| 01:50.59 | cbreak | s/Probably/Certainly/ |
| 01:51.07 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 01:52.01 | Kraps | is currently listening to Incubus - Drive |
| 01:52.27 | Ginji | Actually, that doesn't even look too bad |
| 01:52.35 | Ginji | Not that I'm going to need it |
| 01:55.44 | Torhal | Cairenn: Can delete ardent123 IRL? |
| 01:56.15 | Cairenn | could wish |
| 01:56.37 | Torhal | I just got three sentences in and thought of Fisker's rage face. |
| 01:56.47 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:56.51 | Cairenn | just leave it be |
| 01:56.57 | Torhal | I am :) |
| 01:58.35 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 01:58.47 | Lopeppeppy | Do not feed the trolls. *nod* |
| 01:59.10 | Torhal | I'm just so tired of the whole "I was inconvenienced. I don't care that you're doing this for free, damn you!" mentality. |
| 01:59.23 | Kraps | its one year since wrath people |
| 01:59.44 | Ginji | It is? |
| 01:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | +/- |
| 01:59.54 | Torhal | I've yet to see wrath. I see a bunch of snow and stuff. |
| 02:00.02 | Torhal | Kraps: Two more days. |
| 02:00.04 | Torhal | 16th |
| 02:00.10 | Ginji | Bed! |
| 02:00.33 | Kraps | Torhal: wrathgate was pretty wrathy |
| 02:00.48 | Torhal | Mostly on the Forsaken side. |
| 02:03.07 | Bruners | i need a holy spec for a paladin with crap gear |
| 02:03.54 | Kraps | how is that different from a spec for a paladin with good gear? |
| 02:04.24 | Torhal | Kraps: There are hidden talents that can only be unlocked by sub-par gear. |
| 02:04.34 | Kraps | niiiiiice |
| 02:04.38 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 02:04.50 | Bruners | most of the paladins with good gear tend to spec out of certain thing |
| 02:05.10 | Lopeppeppy | Do they? What? |
| 02:05.28 | Kraps | i wish i had an 80 pally |
| 02:05.42 | Bruners | im just 79 tho |
| 02:06.23 | Kraps | i wish i had an 80 of every class actually |
| 02:06.31 | Bruners | im positive that conviction could be good for me |
| 02:07.09 | Bruners | while paladins with great gear can skip that and go for protection talents |
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| 02:08.51 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* you're probably better off going down ret and picking up conviction and sanctity of battle |
| 02:09.04 | Kraps | actually, according to http://www.wowpopular.com/Holy/Paladin , the most popular build has conviction |
| 02:09.38 | NightHawkTheSane | at lowr gear levels, 8% crit and 10% mana off your instants will probably do more for you than going into prot |
| 02:09.54 | NightHawkTheSane | which is really only when you need neither the crit nor the mana, and the 5% raw healing is superior. |
| 02:13.44 | Bruners | thats a nice page |
| 02:14.08 | NightHawkTheSane | its interesting |
| 02:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't say nice |
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| 02:16.37 | Sylvir | Blarghy |
| 02:17.09 | Sylvir | What is the Add-On thats like Recount only includes a threat meter? |
| 02:17.21 | Sylvir | err |
| 02:17.22 | Sylvir | fail |
| 02:17.23 | kd3 | omen |
| 02:17.31 | Sylvir | neh, i worded that fail |
| 02:17.38 | Sylvir | Recount + Omen = ? |
| 02:17.46 | Sylvir | It starts with an S >< |
| 02:17.48 | Sylvir | i cant remember. |
| 02:18.37 | Sylvir | Its like Recount, only with a threat meter integrated in it |
| 02:18.54 | Bruners | Skada |
| 02:19.03 | Bruners | isnt there a module for recount with threat? |
| 02:19.13 | Sylvir | Thanks |
| 02:19.16 | Sylvir | Skada is it |
| 02:19.25 | Sylvir | lol :D |
| 02:19.55 | Bruners | i was going to try skada, but if i do have to find a way to hook it to opanel and i cant be arsed to do that |
| 02:20.22 | Sylvir | Im using this really nice Btex Skin |
| 02:20.33 | Sylvir | and designing an interface around it |
| 02:21.56 | Bruners | Sylvir: feel free to provice a screenshot when you are done |
| 02:22.49 | Bruners | *provide |
| 02:25.45 | Sylvir | hm? |
| 02:25.45 | Sylvir | hang on |
| 02:26.03 | Sylvir | I'll give one in a sec |
| 02:28.10 | Sylvir | http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/iSylvir/WoWScrnShot_111409_202611.jpg |
| 02:28.13 | Sylvir | still gotta get rid of the |
| 02:28.21 | Sylvir | player auras |
| 02:28.31 | Sylvir | the default blizzardo nes |
| 02:28.56 | Sylvir | ugh |
| 02:29.01 | Sylvir | Keyboard Gremlins abound |
| 02:29.22 | Sylvir | any comments before i log off for the night? |
| 02:30.33 | Bruners | do you really need the buttons above your chatframe? |
| 02:30.39 | Sylvir | Eh |
| 02:30.44 | Sylvir | they'll get hidden somewhere |
| 02:30.48 | Sylvir | its a WiP |
| 02:31.01 | Sylvir | Any way, i'm off for the night |
| 02:31.09 | Sylvir | this'll get finished tomorrow, then i'll start working on the borderlands ui |
| 03:07.56 | Kraps | mobs in starting areas have a much smaller aggro radius in starting areas on the ptr? |
| 03:10.33 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 03:10.43 | Shirik | I'm 5 pages into a 10 page paper and only 25% through my outline... |
| 03:10.59 | Shirik | and that includes things like "Introduction" |
| 03:11.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you're either being too verbose, or your outline wasn't trimmed enough :P |
| 03:11.23 | Shirik | there's too much to talk about! |
| 03:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | thats part of writing a paper :P |
| 03:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | figuring out what to cut |
| 03:11.41 | Shirik | how do you fit a topic as broad as "Requirements engineering in agile processes" into 10 pages |
| 03:11.50 | sylvanaar | i always had the opositte problem |
| 03:11.51 | Shirik | no, I did not choose the topic |
| 03:12.20 | sylvanaar | you know there's some irony there |
| 03:12.39 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar, same |
| 03:13.35 | sylvanaar | i always would assume the person reading my paper knew about the subject |
| 03:14.01 | sylvanaar | so i would cut to the chase - so to speak |
| 03:22.17 | Kraps | oh the defias is not attack on sight! |
| 03:22.32 | Kraps | that is lol |
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| 03:43.39 | Kraps | is currently listening to Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams |
| 03:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. "California Justice" here, I forget who sings it. |
| 03:44.38 | Kraps | gaggel to the rescu!! |
| 03:45.03 | Kraps | five for fighting |
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| 03:45.42 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, 5 for Fighting. |
| 03:45.49 | Lopeppeppy | They make me miss Zootfizzle! |
| 03:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | raises a glass to departed gnomes. |
| 03:45.58 | Ackis | I got that penalty once! |
| 03:46.00 | Ackis | 5 mins for fighting |
| 03:46.02 | Ackis | :( |
| 03:46.09 | Ackis | usually I'd just get game suspensions |
| 03:46.17 | Kraps | Ackis: ... |
| 03:46.31 | Bruners | is there a slash command to open the clock/alarm settings? |
| 03:46.45 | Kraps | whats funner: mage or lock? |
| 03:46.54 | Thunder_Child | for who? |
| 03:46.59 | Ackis | got a 5 game suspension at once |
| 03:47.01 | Thunder_Child | for you, the lock |
| 03:47.01 | Lopeppeppy | Mage! Blizzard it all to death! |
| 03:47.04 | Ackis | I was proud of that |
| 03:47.05 | Thunder_Child | for them, neither |
| 03:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Lock! Eat things iwth your pet! |
| 03:47.19 | Thunder_Child | no, more like fear people forever |
| 03:47.19 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: Chantelle is mad at you, I cracked her for you and apparently it hurt. |
| 03:47.34 | Thunder_Child | one of the lock fears is not a fear effect |
| 03:47.34 | Lopeppeppy | she'd better use a baseball bat for revenge! |
| 03:47.41 | Thunder_Child | so no dr for some reason |
| 03:47.48 | ccox | "currently experiencing a high volume of petittions" - yeah, after 18 hours and still no answer about a bugged quest chain |
| 03:47.49 | Ackis | she was going to use a crowbar on your knees! :D |
| 03:48.13 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, I said crustaceans, not girls. |
| 03:48.50 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: what do you mean by that? |
| 03:48.51 | Dagmar | ccox: They probably figure you can look it up on WowHead all by yourself |
| 03:49.43 | ccox | I can look it up, but it's bugged so it can't be completed |
| 03:50.19 | ccox | "kill this mob", oops that mob is invisible to you and won't take any damage from you while you have the quest |
| 03:51.05 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, 'that' be a bit more specific please |
| 03:51.17 | Kraps | "one of the lock fears is not a fear effect" |
| 03:52.16 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, death coil |
| 03:52.19 | NightHawkTheSane | DC is horror |
| 03:52.20 | NightHawkTheSane | not fear |
| 03:52.34 | Thunder_Child | so no dr |
| 03:52.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i think there is dr, its just in a horror dr category |
| 03:52.59 | NightHawkTheSane | not a fear one |
| 03:53.06 | NightHawkTheSane | but i coudl be wrong |
| 03:53.16 | Thunder_Child | as far as i understand it there is none |
| 03:53.54 | Thunder_Child | though with a 2min cd you would need a lot of locks to test it out |
| 03:54.48 | NightHawkTheSane | well in theory only a few :P |
| 03:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah |
| 03:57.33 | Kraps | fireball travels faster that shadow bolt |
| 03:58.03 | NightHawkTheSane | so does your mom |
| 03:58.34 | Kraps | lies! |
| 04:02.12 | Torhal | Ackis: The experiment was a success. pompy thinks he's a guy who plays a game called World of Warcraft and works on software with other people via the Internet. |
| 04:02.19 | Lopeppeppy | She's kind of inbetween the two, in terms of speed. |
| 04:02.31 | Ackis | i r confused |
| 04:03.09 | Torhal | Ackis: Did I accidentally dose you? |
| 04:03.12 | Torhal | Damn it to hell! |
| 04:03.38 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: i dont know, are you sure? |
| 04:03.44 | Gnarfoz | !api sound_enable |
| 04:03.45 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'sound_enable'. |
| 04:03.59 | Lopeppeppy | Time her, Kraps. Put her between a mage and a warlock? |
| 04:04.11 | Kraps | um |
| 04:04.31 | Lopeppeppy | See which spell she outruns the best? |
| 04:05.48 | Ackis | Torhal: forza 3? |
| 04:05.58 | Torhal | Ackis: No idea what that is. |
| 04:06.12 | Ackis | ~fail Torhal |
| 04:06.13 | purl | Torhal: FAIL! |
| 04:08.01 | Torhal | Ackis: I refuse to allow the Xbox creatures to eat my brain. I wish you had been so wise. |
| 04:08.47 | Ackis | brains? /drools |
| 04:08.54 | Kraps | how fast do spells travel anyway? |
| 04:09.11 | Ackis | Kraps: depends on your latency... HAHAH |
| 04:09.26 | Kraps | ur funy |
| 04:11.05 | Kraps | actually, their actual speed will be the same no matter the latency, the relative speed is different |
| 04:11.35 | Lopeppeppy | Is it an african swallow? |
| 04:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE an african swallow |
| 04:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | Tweet? |
| 04:12.35 | Kraps | is it laden? |
| 04:12.41 | Lopeppeppy | Tweet. |
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| 04:18.23 | Shirik | Hum |
| 04:18.30 | Shirik | I just found a defect in gcc's documentation |
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| 04:20.42 | Lopeppeppy | Fix it? |
| 04:21.48 | Ackis | 4 cats == trimming nails == hell |
| 04:22.10 | Lopeppeppy | 1 cat, trimming her nails is hell. |
| 04:22.17 | Lopeppeppy | 1 cat, cleaning her wound is hell. |
| 04:22.19 | Lopeppeppy | I hate my cats. |
| 04:22.23 | Lopeppeppy | makes a sadface |
| 04:23.37 | Ackis | :( |
| 04:25.32 | bleeter | so I hear the AH's are bugging out US side http://is.gd/4VgCr http://is.gd/4VgCB |
| 04:26.11 | Lopeppeppy | I am unsurprised? Bugs happen. |
| 04:26.39 | Corrodias | tweet |
| 04:27.41 | bleeter | I was just about to log in for the weekend and do my AH run, was wondering if anyone else had hit it :P |
| 04:27.43 | Lopeppeppy | Tweet. *serious nod* |
| 04:33.34 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 04:33.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi. |
| 04:33.44 | Shirik | sorry about your cats :( |
| 04:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'm sick and whiny, Shirik, it will pass. |
| 04:34.12 | airtonix | lol did you just tweet a gesture? |
| 04:34.41 | Lopeppeppy | No, I said tweet, and then nodded seriously, to show the gravity of my emotion expressed in that simple sound. |
| 04:34.55 | airtonix | ok |
| 04:35.05 | airtonix | its sounds verious serious then |
| 04:35.10 | airtonix | i mean looks |
| 04:35.22 | Dagmar | it r internets |
| 04:35.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, a tweet is very serious business. |
| 04:35.32 | airtonix | i mean the cats |
| 04:35.33 | Dagmar | they r srius bizness |
| 04:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | Did you know that birds are the descendents of dinosaurs? |
| 04:35.42 | airtonix | not your bird like behaviour |
| 04:35.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'm learning to speak the language of my grandchildren! |
| 04:36.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... Rosie's been like that for a while though airtonix, it's a long recovery process. |
| 04:36.29 | airtonix | also, depends on the kind of dinosaur you're talking about |
| 04:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | Me. |
| 04:36.42 | Lopeppeppy | My grandchildren are birds. |
| 04:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Tweet. *serious nod* |
| 04:36.48 | airtonix | so far i'm under the impression 'dinosaur' is a very generalised term |
| 04:37.26 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, it means I rawr. |
| 04:37.45 | Shirik | is escared of Lopeppeppy |
| 04:37.56 | Lopeppeppy | comforts Shirik. He is not on the menu! |
| 04:38.11 | Shirik | :) |
| 04:38.37 | airtonix | dinosaurs don't eat fish |
| 04:38.38 | airtonix | i think |
| 04:38.51 | airtonix | but cats do |
| 04:39.20 | Lopeppeppy | Dinos ate fishes, if they could cach them. |
| 04:39.54 | Ackis | I ate fished today |
| 04:40.02 | Lopeppeppy | I did not. *pout* |
| 04:40.09 | airtonix | yeah if i had a mouth the size of a garbage truck i probably wouldn't notice that there was a few fish amongst the tonnes of kelp i was munching from the shoreline |
| 04:40.28 | airtonix | mmm salty |
| 04:40.34 | airtonix | omnomnomnom |
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| 04:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm, lobsters! |
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| 04:53.52 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, and maybe you can see if Cairenn can give you some of her oysters to go with it. |
| 04:54.16 | Duman | heh |
| 04:54.17 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:54.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oysters are not for Peppy. |
| 04:54.30 | Duman | all I had was togo's for dinner |
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| 04:58.59 | Ackis | Cairenn is eating Oysters? She going for another 10? |
| 04:59.16 | Cairenn | never eats oysters, they're disgusting in her opinion |
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| 05:00.36 | Lopeppeppy | I like steamed clams and mussels, but not raw oysters. |
| 05:01.09 | Ackis | I almost had bbq scallops wrapped in bacon mmmmm |
| 05:01.32 | Lopeppeppy | almost doesn't count except in horseshoes and hand grenades. |
| 05:02.21 | Ackis | I had shrimp jambalya and walt's fav shrimp w/ steak instead :P |
| 05:02.32 | Ackis | plus some of the gf's lobster |
| 05:04.00 | Kraps | "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!" |
| 05:04.16 | Jerub | i had a beautiful eye fillet last night. medium rare, crispy on the outside, perfectly rare on the inside, with mash and bacon wrapped tomato. :P |
| 05:04.31 | Corrodias | what species' eye? |
| 05:04.42 | Jerub | bovine |
| 05:05.08 | Lopeppeppy | I don't eat eyes, they pop and I hate that texture. |
| 05:05.22 | Lopeppeppy | I love to rip apart lobsters, but only ones over 3 pounds. |
| 05:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | I demolished a 7 pounder once, such fun! |
| 05:06.48 | Ackis | i had a 7 pound poop once I think :P |
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| 05:07.00 | Sylvir | Blarghy. |
| 05:07.06 | Shirik | I think Lopeppeppy loves the ripping apart part |
| 05:07.09 | Shirik | not necessarily the eating part |
| 05:07.11 | Sylvir | o.o |
| 05:07.23 | Sylvir | Canabilism is illegal, Shirik. |
| 05:07.36 | Shirik | is it really? |
| 05:07.36 | Lopeppeppy | No, I like the eating of lobster too, Shirik. :) |
| 05:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/jarien/FatCharlie002-1.jpg |
| 05:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | Fat Charlie. He filled up my turkey roasting pan. |
| 05:07.52 | Sylvir | Oh my lobster. |
| 05:07.54 | Shirik | you gave it a name>? |
| 05:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | I give a name to anything I put in that pan. |
| 05:08.06 | Sylvir | Are you going to eat it? |
| 05:08.11 | Sylvir | thats not healthy... |
| 05:08.17 | Lopeppeppy | I did, about 4 years ago. |
| 05:08.23 | Lopeppeppy | Fish is healthy enough. If salty |
| 05:08.28 | Jerub | ever done a turducken? |
| 05:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | Too hard to cook it thoroughly enough. |
| 05:09.30 | Sylvir | A say wha? |
| 05:09.42 | Lopeppeppy | You get food poisoning just from stuffing inside of one turkey, much less inside a turkey inside a duck inside a chicken. |
| 05:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | A turducken! |
| 05:09.54 | Lopeppeppy | never watched Red vs. Blue, huh? |
| 05:09.54 | Jerub | you precook the stuffing |
| 05:10.07 | Corrodias | shouldn't you -post- cook the stuffing? |
| 05:10.13 | Jerub | both! |
| 05:10.14 | Corrodias | cook it and then dump bacteria on it = not smart |
| 05:10.22 | Corrodias | ah, ok |
| 05:10.58 | Jerub | it requires multiple stuffings too. |
| 05:11.10 | Jerub | helped debone and assemble it the second time iwe did it. |
| 05:11.14 | Shirik | lua> 10^7/1024/1024 |
| 05:11.14 | Lopeppeppy | Much more fun to breed salmonellas in. |
| 05:11.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: 9.5367431640625 |
| 05:11.17 | Shirik | hm |
| 05:11.20 | Shirik | I don't think I have 9GB of memory |
| 05:11.24 | Shirik | this should be fun |
| 05:11.29 | Shirik | wait no that's 9MB |
| 05:11.32 | Shirik | fail |
| 05:11.44 | tem|afk | Is there an upper limit on the number of possible reward choices a quest can have? |
| 05:11.56 | Sylvir | IrHazQuestion |
| 05:12.05 | kd3 | 6 |
| 05:12.12 | Sylvir | Simple addon to hide blizzard default player auras |
| 05:12.15 | Lopeppeppy | Here is the Red v. Blue turducken special. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHRFAM0ZvCM |
| 05:12.16 | Sylvir | i don't want to use SBF |
| 05:12.22 | tem|afk | kd3, where do you get that number? |
| 05:12.44 | kd3 | taking apart dbcs/the UI only being capable of displaying 6 options |
| 05:12.46 | tem|afk | is it just the most we've ever seen or has there actually been confirmation that 6 is the most that the system is built to handle? |
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| 05:13.33 | Sylvir | What's a low memory addon to hide blizzard default player auras? |
| 05:13.50 | kd3 | hell, more could happen, but in... 25000 quests 6 has been the upper bound afaik |
| 05:14.07 | kd3 | sylvir; memory is the least of your issues. the game itself uses an order of magnitude more memory than the UI |
| 05:14.08 | tem|afk | btw, I just checked, the Quel'Delar quest has 7 rewards |
| 05:14.15 | kd3 | no |
| 05:14.19 | kd3 | there are two options |
| 05:14.23 | kd3 | one quest has 4 |
| 05:14.26 | kd3 | the other quest has 3 |
| 05:14.27 | Lopeppeppy | First class, or coach. :) |
| 05:14.27 | Sylvir | T_T |
| 05:14.28 | Sylvir | just... |
| 05:14.35 | Sylvir | tell me an addon please >< |
| 05:14.37 | tem|afk | hmm |
| 05:14.39 | Ackis | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1980-keeps-wanting-to-install/ le sigh |
| 05:14.44 | tem|afk | kd3, it's interesting that there are 2 |
| 05:14.50 | kd3 | ct_core? |
| 05:15.00 | Lopeppeppy | Satrina? |
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| 05:15.05 | tem|afk | I was hoping to use the upper limit as an excuse for blizzard to not include a tank sword and a rogue dagger |
| 05:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | tem|afk: i think the reason they didn't is becase "we dont want to" |
| 05:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 05:15.43 | tem|afk | yeah and that sort of pisses me off |
| 05:16.00 | tem|afk | I was hoping to get that sword for my alt |
| 05:16.01 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 05:16.05 | tem|afk | but now I have no reason to |
| 05:16.07 | Sylvir | Satrina? |
| 05:16.13 | tem|afk | my main will get better in Ice Cream Citadel |
| 05:16.13 | Sylvir | Why would I do that |
| 05:16.19 | tem|afk | and now I don't have an option on my alt |
| 05:16.20 | tem|afk | QQ |
| 05:16.23 | Sylvir | i don't want two player aura displays |
| 05:16.33 | NightHawkTheSane | its meant to be a dps weapon, not a tank weapon, so i dont have a problem with there being no tank version |
| 05:16.33 | kd3 | sbf should turn off the blizz display |
| 05:16.37 | tem|afk | Sylvir, you're being pretty dense |
| 05:16.40 | Sylvir | Dense? |
| 05:16.41 | Sylvir | I know. |
| 05:16.43 | NightHawkTheSane | the lack of a rogue dagger is kinda meh, though. but *shrug* |
| 05:17.08 | tem|afk | NHTS, *shrug* I had assumed way back when they announced it that it would be a 1h tank weapon |
| 05:17.16 | tem|afk | probably because of the old QS |
| 05:17.25 | Lopeppeppy | Why would we keep helping someone dense. Go look up buff mods and install one. |
| 05:17.43 | NightHawkTheSane | tem|afk: the initial lore they gave indicated it was a dps weapon... |
| 05:17.56 | tem|afk | I never picked up on that |
| 05:18.15 | tem|afk | it's hard to pick out "tank weapon" from lore |
| 05:18.16 | Yssaril | dps 2 hander = DK tanking weapon :) |
| 05:18.26 | tem|afk | it's actually a terrible DK tank weapon |
| 05:18.31 | tem|afk | (my main is a DK tank) |
| 05:18.42 | tem|afk | it has less stam that ulduar 2 handers |
| 05:19.15 | tem|afk | s/that/than/ |
| 05:19.26 | Lopeppeppy | Night night, normal people. |
| 05:19.30 | NightHawkTheSane | (thats probably entirely on purpose too :P) |
| 05:19.32 | Yssaril | agreed will still help with new DK alts that aren't gonna run ulduar |
| 05:20.45 | tem|afk | DK alts scare me |
| 05:21.02 | tem|afk | the class is "hard" enough that I have little faith in people that have been playing it for a year |
| 05:21.24 | Sylvir | o.o |
| 05:21.29 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 05:21.30 | Sylvir | <---Been Playin it For a Year--- |
| 05:21.43 | Sylvir | I hit 55 on my Huntard and blasted to 80 on a dkay |
| 05:22.07 | tem|afk | removes himself from the conversation before getting mean |
| 05:22.07 | Sylvir | I hate being a Death Knight now. |
| 05:22.16 | Yssaril | created my DK first day :) |
| 05:22.23 | Sylvir | No, I know, anyone who owns a DK is a total noob. |
| 05:22.32 | Sylvir | I accept it, so does every other Death Knight. |
| 05:22.38 | Sylvir | We have 4-6 buttons to press. |
| 05:22.43 | tem|afk | that's not the case at all |
| 05:22.44 | Sylvir | And we pull as much dps as a rogue. |
| 05:22.52 | Sylvir | Then what is it o.o |
| 05:22.55 | tem|afk | 4-6 buttons is entirely incorrect |
| 05:23.05 | tem|afk | I have more buttons on my DK than most of my other toons |
| 05:23.13 | tem|afk | the only class with more so far is my warrior |
| 05:23.15 | Sylvir | So your saying they're hard? |
| 05:23.20 | tem|afk | they hard to get right |
| 05:23.24 | tem|afk | they're |
| 05:23.33 | NightHawkTheSane | they're easy to mash buttons and not totally fail |
| 05:23.35 | Sylvir | Icy Touch Plague Strike Heart Strike Heart Strike Death Strike |
| 05:23.36 | Sylvir | lol |
| 05:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | but hard to be really good. |
| 05:23.42 | Yssaril | Sylvir: they are easy to be mediocre (like most people) with but hard to master |
| 05:23.55 | Sylvir | I pull 6k self buffed -_- |
| 05:24.05 | Sylvir | When I get a nice little streak of luck |
| 05:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont really like tanking on my dk >.> |
| 05:24.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i feel like i have less control than other classes |
| 05:24.23 | tem|afk | I __HATE__ blood |
| 05:24.27 | Sylvir | True, Night. |
| 05:24.33 | Sylvir | I find it hard to control my AoE threat |
| 05:24.39 | Sylvir | Single target is just like any other tank. |
| 05:24.48 | Yssaril | tanking as DK used to be fun before they changed unholy blight /cry |
| 05:24.48 | Sylvir | But It's unreliable to have your death and decay out 24/7 |
| 05:25.00 | Sylvir | takes way too much runes, and enemies are free to pwn once they get out of it's range |
| 05:25.13 | tem|afk | facepalms very hard and steps away |
| 05:25.19 | Sylvir | -_- |
| 05:25.20 | Sylvir | Shh. |
| 05:25.30 | Sylvir | Every DKay has his own fails. |
| 05:25.53 | Yssaril | still fun as hell though |
| 05:26.03 | Sylvir | Eh, i like my hunter way better |
| 05:26.04 | Shirik | tem|afk is completely wrong |
| 05:26.07 | Sylvir | I love healing. |
| 05:26.08 | Shirik | he is mad that he is not a priest like me |
| 05:26.13 | Sylvir | on my drood |
| 05:26.18 | Shirik | and takes it out on his DK |
| 05:26.26 | Sylvir | My DK heals it's self :D |
| 05:26.46 | Sylvir | Actually, recently found out the miracle of Unholy Presence |
| 05:26.49 | Sylvir | I love it. |
| 05:27.01 | Ackis | http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/11/indie-developers-band-against-edge-trademark-claims/ |
| 05:28.18 | Shirik | Is this Thompson v2.0? |
| 05:28.27 | Sylvir | wow... |
| 05:28.29 | Sylvir | This dude is a douche. |
| 05:28.58 | Jerub | I'm a druid healer and i'm starting to hate it more and more. |
| 05:29.18 | Jerub | I want to go back to fulltime DPS, but i'm getting a name as a good healer, so when i try to sneak in as a kitty, i get asked to heal :( |
| 05:29.34 | Sylvir | Lmao |
| 05:29.42 | Sylvir | I had that problem with tanking when I was lvl 70. |
| 05:29.49 | Sylvir | 74 actually |
| 05:30.00 | Sylvir | I was a pretty good tank for the dungeons below heroics. |
| 05:30.32 | Sylvir | O_O so what does everyone think about 2012? I'm watching a documentary on it and it's really interesting. |
| 05:30.43 | Jerub | my druid tank is crap. to do it properly i need to respect from kitty dps. |
| 05:30.48 | Sylvir | Lol |
| 05:30.51 | kd3 | the movie is horrid. the myth is overblown |
| 05:31.00 | Sylvir | I came into a dungeon on my druid with intentions to heal |
| 05:31.04 | Sylvir | it was 4 shamans and a druid |
| 05:31.14 | Sylvir | i had no tank gear nor did i have a tank spec |
| 05:31.18 | Sylvir | It was pretty terrible |
| 05:31.24 | Jerub | tee hee. |
| 05:31.40 | Jerub | I was doing H VH and the haeler said they didn't use any healing addons. |
| 05:31.53 | Sylvir | I heal without any addons occasionally |
| 05:32.04 | Sylvir | that way if an update comes out that disables healbot, im not completley useless |
| 05:32.06 | Jerub | So I told the (shamman) healer that if I died he was tanking and i was healing. |
| 05:32.12 | Sylvir | Lmao |
| 05:32.25 | Sylvir | I've tanked with a shaman before |
| 05:32.31 | Shirik | LMAO |
| 05:32.32 | Shirik | I didn't hear this |
| 05:32.32 | Sylvir | It's not too bad at low levels. |
| 05:32.34 | Shirik | Despite his July 2008 disbarment, Thompson filled a law suit for $40 million against Facebook in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida on September 29, 2009. Thompson claimed that the social networking site had caused him great harm and distress by not removing angry postings made by users in several Facebook groups. |
| 05:32.45 | Sylvir | Bwahaha. |
| 05:32.50 | Sylvir | He deserves to be killed. |
| 05:33.09 | Jerub | I like that they mention his disbarment at the start of the paragraph |
| 05:33.18 | Sylvir | XD |
| 05:33.56 | Jerub | sigh |
| 05:34.04 | Jerub | 'restarting' firefox stopped it, but didn't restart it. |
| 05:34.12 | Sylvir | lol |
| 05:34.50 | Sylvir | US government once investigated the possibility of a polar flip, which is assumed to be the cause of the 2012 incident. |
| 05:35.09 | Shirik | and then said "You all are a bunch of loonies" |
| 05:35.14 | Sylvir | Yknow |
| 05:35.18 | Sylvir | If the world does end... |
| 05:35.22 | Shirik | which it won't |
| 05:35.22 | Sylvir | I think I'm going to kill someone. |
| 05:35.27 | Sylvir | Im just saying. |
| 05:35.30 | Shirik | I don't think you'll have that opportunity |
| 05:35.35 | Sylvir | Why's that. |
| 05:35.40 | Sylvir | I'll find the nearest person and stab them. |
| 05:35.42 | Sylvir | Problem solved. |
| 05:35.43 | Shirik | because the world will have ended... |
| 05:35.56 | Sylvir | Everything won't just blow up |
| 05:36.00 | Sylvir | ... |
| 05:36.02 | Sylvir | Watch. |
| 05:36.02 | Shirik | how do you know |
| 05:36.04 | Sylvir | Now that I said that. |
| 05:36.07 | Sylvir | WE're all going to die. |
| 05:36.08 | Sylvir | XD |
| 05:36.21 | Shirik | anyway, this whole 2012 thing is so overhyped |
| 05:36.23 | Shirik | it's stupid |
| 05:36.30 | Shirik | the mayans never said the world was going to end in 2012 |
| 05:36.41 | Sylvir | They were just too lazy to count past that. |
| 05:37.01 | Shirik | I need to find the article I read on this |
| 05:37.04 | Sylvir | Lol |
| 05:37.24 | Sylvir | http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/iSylvir/WoWScrnShot_111409_233558.jpg |
| 05:37.51 | Jerub | Sylvir: is that your ui? |
| 05:37.59 | Sylvir | mhm |
| 05:38.07 | Jerub | Sylvir: where does it put party frames? |
| 05:38.13 | Sylvir | Still working on that >< |
| 05:38.35 | Sylvir | Hmm... |
| 05:38.47 | Sylvir | I might use text raidframes. |
| 05:38.49 | Jerub | i use spartanui which puts party frames in topleft, but target and self frames in the middle at the bottom like yours. |
| 05:39.00 | Bruners | Sylvir: what is the green and red thing below your player frame? |
| 05:39.01 | Sylvir | I love SpartanUi |
| 05:39.02 | Shirik | Not the article Iwas reading earlier, but same kind of thought process: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/oct/13/end-time-maya-calendar |
| 05:39.06 | Sylvir | My runes, Bruners. |
| 05:39.12 | Jerub | and i can't toggle them off either, which means i have to scale down the ui so i can fit healbot left of center. |
| 05:39.27 | Jerub | (for 25man healin, there's not much room left) |
| 05:39.33 | Sylvir | Clique 'll solve that |
| 05:39.46 | Sylvir | Better alternative than Healbot + Grid |
| 05:39.46 | Jerub | I should try clique |
| 05:39.57 | Sylvir | Its nice. |
| 05:40.03 | Sylvir | I like it better than Healbot to be honest. |
| 05:40.11 | Sylvir | A little more taxing on the healer however. |
| 05:40.14 | Bruners | never tried healbot |
| 05:40.27 | Jerub | i'm very used to healbot by now, it's a bit crufty but i understand its tempers. |
| 05:40.34 | Sylvir | XD |
| 05:40.42 | Jerub | hard to turn on/off in the heat of the moment. |
| 05:40.49 | Sylvir | done |
| 05:40.51 | Sylvir | err |
| 05:40.55 | Sylvir | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.56 | Sylvir | done |
| 05:40.58 | Sylvir | lol |
| 05:41.19 | Jerub | it sometimes stops updating but the window stays up, you have to turn it on/off a few times |
| 05:41.45 | Sylvir | Yeah. |
| 05:42.09 | Jerub | i wish it had better indicators of what other healers are doing too. |
| 05:42.14 | Sylvir | BAH! |
| 05:42.17 | Sylvir | I hate grid so much. |
| 05:42.24 | Sylvir | Doesn't have a test mode. |
| 05:42.32 | Sylvir | So I have to go afk in a battleground to fix it up |
| 05:42.47 | Jerub | clique is "hover mouse over dude and hit 1-9 right? |
| 05:43.02 | Sylvir | nope |
| 05:43.16 | Sylvir | Clique is 'Click on Grid Frame with Mouse Button One to cast Rejuvination" |
| 05:43.30 | Sylvir | XD |
| 05:43.54 | airtonix | clique : one tool per job.. |
| 05:43.57 | Jerub | oh, right, so similar to healbot. |
| 05:44.07 | airtonix | healbot : hope you have shit there after a d/c mid raid |
| 05:44.15 | Sylvir | XD |
| 05:44.20 | airtonix | healbot is utter fail |
| 05:44.25 | Sylvir | I love Clique |
| 05:44.45 | airtonix | its like someone shat their idea out onto the screen and millions of muck raking plebs ate it up |
| 05:44.58 | Bruners | mouse 1 Holy Light, mouse 2 Flash of Light, Shift+Mouse 1 Holy Shock, Mouse 3 Cleanse |
| 05:45.27 | airtonix | ironically, clique is easier to set up |
| 05:46.18 | airtonix | jerub: re : i wish i had better indicators of what other healers are doing ... |
| 05:46.45 | Bruners | airtonix: like healcom ? |
| 05:46.59 | airtonix | i made a variant of ouf_grid that does just this |
| 05:47.20 | airtonix | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13829-oUF_Smee2_Groups.html |
| 05:47.22 | Jerub | i use healbot because someone said, "install healbot" and it's just worked for me. |
| 05:47.39 | airtonix | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw28358.jpg |
| 05:48.11 | airtonix | whne using that in pugs i often see the healers all trying to beat each other to the person with themost health missing |
| 05:48.19 | airtonix | mole-slapping |
| 05:48.32 | Jerub | as you would. |
| 05:48.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko1 (n=Testing@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:48.43 | Jerub | because with only healthbars and your own hot indicators you never know |
| 05:48.50 | airtonix | i expect much better group cohesion in a non-pug |
| 05:49.42 | airtonix | before i stopped playing i was tarting to make indicators for shields that weren't mine... and have it logged for later raging at priest |
| 05:49.55 | Jerub | lately the healing strategy requested by healer-leaders has been 'don't fail' |
| 05:50.01 | airtonix | which is fail |
| 05:50.21 | airtonix | try to get some kind of team work going on in the healers in wow is like starting a flame war |
| 05:50.47 | airtonix | i swear before i left it was like all hte dps rerolled healers so they could "rofl-i-WON HEALING LOL" |
| 05:50.54 | Sylvir | Gais. |
| 05:50.58 | Sylvir | I need a Grid Expert. |
| 05:51.06 | Jerub | okay, i'm going to go install this. |
| 05:51.12 | Ancu | ~seen ZorbaTHut |
| 05:51.14 | purl | zorbathut is currently on #wowuidev (3d 20h 36m 2s) #curseforge (3d 20h 36m 2s). Has said a total of 202 messages. Is idling for 7h 22m 29s, last said: 'ancu, use a text editor that understands unix hardreturns :P'. |
| 05:51.14 | Jerub | airtonix: to use this, do i need clique installed as well? |
| 05:51.20 | airtonix | Jerub, yes |
| 05:51.27 | Sylvir | Where would I be able to define the texture in the LUA, cause I cant scroll down far enough to get to the texture I want. |
| 05:51.29 | Jerub | and i should disable healbot, right? |
| 05:51.32 | Sylvir | The Layout or the Frame? |
| 05:51.38 | airtonix | Jerub, don't expect me to fix anything anytime soon though |
| 05:51.44 | Jerub | might go heal something where fail heals are accaeptable, like V VH |
| 05:51.49 | airtonix | Jerub, yes purge healbot |
| 05:51.55 | Ancu | Hey zorba |
| 05:52.00 | Ancu | you on? |
| 05:52.10 | Jerub | or VoA25 |
| 05:52.45 | airtonix | Jerub, if that doen't work for you... (since i haven't looked at code for about 3-4mths) you might want to use http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10076-oUF_Grid.html |
| 05:53.10 | Shirik | simple wikipedia is so awesome |
| 05:53.15 | Shirik | Oxygen is a very important element because it is a part of the air you breathe and the water you drink. Because of this, oxygen supports life. All living things (including humans) need oxygen to live. |
| 05:53.18 | airtonix | Jerub, or : http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12264-oUF_Freebgrid.html |
| 05:53.30 | Shirik | funny part is the second half of that isn't true |
| 05:53.31 | airtonix | freebgrid is very good |
| 05:53.58 | Jerub | too many options |
| 05:54.09 | Jerub | tell me which one to use. |
| 05:54.19 | airtonix | don't care |
| 05:54.27 | airtonix | my level of care has diminished |
| 05:54.32 | airtonix | its now gone |
| 05:54.35 | Sylvir | [23:53:47] Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:656: attempt to call global 'GetDifficultyColor' (a nil value) |
| 05:54.35 | Sylvir | [C]: in function `GetDifficultyColor' |
| 05:54.35 | Sylvir | Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:656: in function `func' |
| 05:54.35 | Sylvir | Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:852: in function <Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:849> |
| 05:54.36 | Sylvir | Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitClass.lua:539: in function `method' |
| 05:54.38 | Sylvir | Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:984: in function <Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:958> |
| 05:54.41 | Sylvir | >< |
| 05:54.43 | Sylvir | fail |
| 05:54.45 | Sylvir | someone help me work that out? |
| 05:55.17 | Jerub | Sylvir: GetDifficultyColor is nil |
| 05:55.28 | Sylvir | Yeah, kinda read that. |
| 05:55.38 | Jerub | airtonix: DAMN YOU |
| 05:55.39 | Sylvir | That doesn't tell me anything. |
| 05:55.48 | airtonix | Jerub, just use freebgrid |
| 05:55.52 | Jerub | okay. |
| 05:56.02 | airtonix | it doesnt have the heallines though |
| 05:56.37 | Bruners | think you should update your ag Sylvir |
| 05:56.42 | Sylvir | Nah |
| 05:56.46 | Sylvir | I just Dl'ed it |
| 05:57.08 | Bruners | they changed it to GetQuestDifficultyColor |
| 05:57.15 | Sylvir | fuck |
| 05:57.24 | Sylvir | err |
| 05:57.25 | Sylvir | Fudge |
| 05:57.29 | Sylvir | dont know the language restrictions in here. |
| 05:57.32 | Bruners | so either ag is not updated at all or you are using an old version |
| 05:57.35 | Ackis | what's a good torrent client? |
| 05:57.41 | Ackis | utorrent? |
| 05:57.43 | Bruners | µtorrent |
| 05:57.45 | Jerub | Ackis: uTorrent |
| 05:57.46 | Sylvir | AG hasn't been updated methinks |
| 05:58.47 | Sylvir | then |
| 05:58.51 | Sylvir | i tried changing the name of a file |
| 05:58.56 | Sylvir | so it''d be higher on the list of textures |
| 05:59.00 | Sylvir | so i changed its file name |
| 05:59.01 | Sylvir | and now it wont appear |
| 05:59.02 | Sylvir | >< |
| 05:59.05 | Sylvir | wait |
| 05:59.05 | Sylvir | nvm |
| 05:59.07 | Sylvir | i know this one |
| 05:59.07 | Bruners | then you can do the dirty local GetDifficultyColor = GetQuestDifficultyColor |
| 06:00.36 | Jerub | I'm seriously considering putting all my addons in dropbox so i can access them anywhere. |
| 06:02.16 | Sylvir | Yay, Jeth fixed his own addons :D |
| 06:02.38 | Adys | um |
| 06:02.47 | Sylvir | Um? |
| 06:02.48 | Adys | stupid question but whats the difference between ls and dir? |
| 06:03.04 | Sylvir | It's not stupid, I have no idea which either of those are. |
| 06:03.05 | Adys | its the first time i even notice dir |
| 06:03.06 | Sylvir | what even. |
| 06:03.11 | Adys | unix commands |
| 06:03.13 | Sylvir | isn't dir directory? |
| 06:03.26 | Cairenn | Torhal: I hope you are joking? You don't seriously feel that way, do you? |
| 06:03.37 | Arrowmaster | so i dont think people like me in MW2, im running around with marathon and lightweight perks and dual wielding double barrel shotguns melting faces with one hit kills from behind, they keep coming after me when im in a group |
| 06:03.42 | Torhal | Cairenn: I'm a programmer :P |
| 06:04.02 | Cairenn | why do I think we're talking about different things? |
| 06:04.13 | Torhal | Hrm |
| 06:04.25 | Sylvir | Cairenn |
| 06:04.27 | Sylvir | I love you. |
| 06:04.29 | Torhal | Oh! The "This is the WoWI forums" comment? |
| 06:04.34 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 06:04.45 | Torhal | We razz each other there much like we do here. |
| 06:04.47 | Cairenn | Sylvir: *blush* |
| 06:04.55 | Cairenn | Torhal: just making sure :) |
| 06:04.57 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 06:05.29 | Sylvir | XDDD |
| 06:05.42 | Sylvir | Blargh, I need to get myself to working on that Borderlands UI |
| 06:05.57 | Sylvir | Waiting til December 3rd when I get my laptop |
| 06:06.09 | Sylvir | Which, I did order BTW :D |
| 06:06.21 | Sylvir | Thanks to the help of the community here, i saved over 500 dollars |
| 06:06.31 | Cairenn | excellent :) |
| 06:06.45 | airtonix | sweet my account number is 555-4878... |
| 06:06.53 | Sylvir | lmao |
| 06:08.12 | Sylvir | [00:07:23] Interface\AddOns\Grid\GridRoster.lua:258: attempt to call global 'GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty' (a nil value) |
| 06:08.13 | Sylvir | ...rface\AddOns\Grid\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:299: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 06:08.13 | Sylvir | ...rface\AddOns\Grid\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:910: in function <...rface\AddOns\Grid\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:903> |
| 06:08.13 | Jerub | i want to get adys's laptop. |
| 06:08.33 | Sylvir | That was an epic load of LUA fail |
| 06:08.33 | Adys | eh, I can send you it |
| 06:08.43 | Adys | Ill just keep the HOT SEX SSD. |
| 06:08.57 | Sylvir | Gais, someone halp fix mah GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty fail |
| 06:09.07 | Adys | why are you using ace2? |
| 06:09.11 | Sylvir | I am? |
| 06:09.21 | Adys | [08:08:13] <Sylvir> ...rface\AddOns\Grid\libs\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:299: in function `TriggerEvent' |
| 06:09.22 | Adys | yes |
| 06:09.25 | Sylvir | god damnit |
| 06:09.29 | Bruners | Sylvir: are you using wowmatrix ? |
| 06:09.33 | Sylvir | no |
| 06:09.34 | airtonix | lulz |
| 06:09.37 | Sylvir | Svelte UI |
| 06:09.40 | Sylvir | i downloaded that |
| 06:09.43 | Sylvir | and have most of my addons from then |
| 06:09.50 | Sylvir | just been f'ing with his |
| 06:09.51 | airtonix | compilations are bad |
| 06:09.53 | Adys | "you get what you pay for" |
| 06:09.56 | Adys | compilations are bad |
| 06:10.25 | Bruners | Sylvir: i suggest you download all those addons manually and keep what ever configs you need from svelte |
| 06:10.26 | Sylvir | curse should update my addons right? |
| 06:10.35 | airtonix | mostly created by people who don't know what debug report means for people who can't be bothered listening past debug |
| 06:11.01 | airtonix | "but i posted "it dun werk" T_T |
| 06:11.03 | Sylvir | copy paste does miracles |
| 06:11.09 | Adys | Shirik: ping |
| 06:11.13 | Shirik | no |
| 06:11.16 | airtonix | get orf tha dang ruf ma! |
| 06:12.10 | Shirik | what do you want Adys |
| 06:12.11 | Bruners | Sylvir: curse client will update your addons if it can find them or redirect you tho where you may find them. |
| 06:13.10 | Sylvir | it updated Grid and AGUF |
| 06:13.11 | Sylvir | so |
| 06:13.13 | Sylvir | I love AGUF so much |
| 06:15.55 | Sylvir | Yay |
| 06:15.59 | Sylvir | everything is fully operational |
| 06:16.48 | Sylvir | http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/iSylvir/WoWScrnShot_111509_001522.jpg |
| 06:16.53 | Sylvir | theres the near final product |
| 06:16.56 | Sylvir | WTF IS SBF DOING?! |
| 06:17.30 | Sylvir | grawr |
| 06:17.47 | Sylvir | disregard teh SBF in the top right corner |
| 06:17.49 | Sylvir | those aren't really there |
| 06:18.48 | Sylvir | any comments? |
| 06:19.04 | airtonix | why you having buffs on tooltip? |
| 06:19.10 | airtonix | pagel |
| 06:19.20 | airtonix | slamat tingal |
| 06:20.08 | Sylvir | I like buffs on tooltip |
| 06:20.14 | Sylvir | allows me to quickly see who has what in the party |
| 06:20.20 | airtonix | i assume your system can handle the extra polling then |
| 06:20.24 | Sylvir | Mhm. |
| 06:21.13 | Sylvir | Any other opinions? |
| 06:21.28 | airtonix | its not my ui so i hate it |
| 06:21.33 | Sylvir | o.o |
| 06:21.40 | airtonix | but not enough to warrant a hitman contract |
| 06:21.52 | airtonix | like most peoples ui |
| 06:22.01 | Sylvir | XD |
| 06:22.09 | airtonix | i notice your font on your raid frames.. |
| 06:22.22 | airtonix | actually no i dont |
| 06:22.26 | Sylvir | o.o |
| 06:22.29 | Sylvir | Lol? |
| 06:22.33 | airtonix | thought it was handeldgot |
| 06:22.58 | airtonix | is it skada? |
| 06:23.12 | airtonix | next to minimap |
| 06:23.15 | Sylvir | yus |
| 06:23.54 | airtonix | btw i never played a deathknight so i can't offer anyhting useful |
| 06:24.13 | *** join/#wowuidev chrippa (n=chrippa@ua-83-227-215-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:24.14 | Sylvir | Its not class directed |
| 06:24.33 | airtonix | ok |
| 06:24.41 | airtonix | use a pixel font for the time on sbf |
| 06:25.00 | airtonix | rather distorted at the moment |
| 06:25.19 | Sylvir | SBF isn't existant |
| 06:25.23 | airtonix | where is sbf usually located? |
| 06:25.29 | airtonix | ok icons top right im talking about |
| 06:25.29 | Sylvir | Its not |
| 06:25.33 | Sylvir | i know |
| 06:25.37 | Sylvir | they're not supposed to be there |
| 06:25.40 | airtonix | ok |
| 06:25.48 | Sylvir | They keep popping up, but I BELIEVE i fixed it |
| 06:25.55 | airtonix | raid frames change colour when helath missing? |
| 06:25.55 | Sylvir | if not i'll just find a WoW interface hider |
| 06:26.08 | Sylvir | Raid frames are being stubborn |
| 06:26.12 | airtonix | ok |
| 06:26.13 | Sylvir | they wont correspond to class colors |
| 06:26.18 | airtonix | also |
| 06:26.31 | airtonix | intend to make them change colour on particular type of debuff ? |
| 06:26.40 | Sylvir | the border already does that |
| 06:26.43 | Sylvir | and |
| 06:26.43 | airtonix | good |
| 06:26.45 | Sylvir | as a dps class |
| 06:26.47 | Sylvir | its irrelevant |
| 06:26.51 | airtonix | yes |
| 06:27.07 | Sylvir | I don't need to know who has Light Bomb, as long as I know when I have it. |
| 06:27.10 | airtonix | one sweet thing : |
| 06:27.38 | airtonix | whole bottom row expect your frame and target frame should slide down out of view when mouse is not over that area |
| 06:27.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Sargeras_ (n=Sargeras@75.80.16.10) |
| 06:27.50 | airtonix | ouf koskenaga did this in original version |
| 06:28.12 | Sylvir | Even the panels? |
| 06:28.14 | Sylvir | this is btex |
| 06:28.15 | airtonix | yes |
| 06:28.16 | Sylvir | not KgPanels |
| 06:28.28 | airtonix | ouf koskenaga didn't use any of that |
| 06:28.35 | airtonix | just small code for custom frames |
| 06:28.47 | Sylvir | I'm not an Lua coder. |
| 06:28.52 | airtonix | also : what do you need actionbar for apart from seeing spells? |
| 06:28.59 | airtonix | cooldowns? |
| 06:29.07 | Sylvir | WEll |
| 06:29.08 | Sylvir | Well* |
| 06:29.15 | Sylvir | I'd rather have OmniCC up than FX |
| 06:29.18 | airtonix | ok |
| 06:29.19 | Sylvir | FX tends to hog memory |
| 06:29.23 | airtonix | also range indicator i suppose? |
| 06:29.33 | Sylvir | mhm. |
| 06:29.34 | airtonix | like redrange |
| 06:29.39 | Sylvir | Yes. |
| 06:30.02 | Sylvir | THe spell Bars aren't full either, It's half of my spells there lol |
| 06:30.14 | airtonix | only other thing is that as a healer i would have the raid frame centered above your pet frame growing upwards |
| 06:30.30 | Sylvir | O.o Pet frame? XD I completley blew that off. |
| 06:30.45 | Sylvir | I keep raid frames top left as a rule of thumb |
| 06:30.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Apple wins vs pystar: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091114101637997 |
| 06:30.52 | airtonix | but thats just me because i don't like moving my mouse frame from one corner to the other for things i do from second to second |
| 06:31.10 | airtonix | s/mouse frame/mouse cursor/ |
| 06:32.13 | airtonix | i think the last thing is that you don;t need general chat in there... create a new chat tab and hide it in a dash layer |
| 06:32.25 | airtonix | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391.html |
| 06:32.55 | airtonix | typically you only use general chat when flying or idle in dalaran... |
| 06:33.12 | airtonix | myself, i don't care about /1 any other time |
| 06:33.30 | Sylvir | o.o |
| 06:33.47 | airtonix | lol when playing aion i found my self constantly pressing my key binding for 'toggle dash layer' |
| 06:33.55 | airtonix | interface in aion is fail |
| 06:34.22 | airtonix | well not fail, but not how i want it |
| 06:34.33 | Sylvir | XD |
| 06:35.25 | Sylvir | Any comments about the compass on top? Is it good, bad, out of place, etc? |
| 06:35.44 | airtonix | logical place |
| 06:35.51 | Sylvir | 'kay. |
| 06:35.55 | airtonix | doesn't interupt mouse clicks? |
| 06:35.59 | Sylvir | nah |
| 06:36.07 | Sylvir | Click Through |
| 06:36.46 | airtonix | i assume you have it because the minmap compas requires fighter pilot precision to identify current heading? |
| 06:37.07 | Sylvir | I have it because...it looks cool >< |
| 06:37.38 | airtonix | my mouse middle click feels like a mouse for the apple II |
| 06:37.45 | airtonix | cl-clunk |
| 06:37.58 | Sylvir | lol |
| 06:38.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@203-158-60-123.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:38.47 | Bruners | my queston is, why do you need a compass |
| 06:38.57 | Sylvir | It looks cool ^_^ |
| 06:39.11 | airtonix | i would of thought just easier to see during intense pvp action... |
| 06:39.21 | Sylvir | That too. |
| 06:39.25 | Sylvir | I'd love to code in quest markers |
| 06:39.34 | Sylvir | but...I'm not a coder lmao |
| 06:40.02 | Sylvir | Air, can I see your UI? |
| 06:40.12 | ccox | sigh, GM's "fix" didn't work |
| 06:40.22 | Fisker | slaps ccox around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:40.29 | ccox | but while I've been waiting, a rare spawn appeared and I got "Northern Exposure" acheivement from it |
| 06:40.32 | Sylvir | Fix for what? |
| 06:40.44 | ccox | busted quest |
| 06:40.44 | Sylvir | Nice. |
| 06:40.57 | Bruners | hi Fisker |
| 06:41.14 | ccox | ~nukeslap Fisker |
| 06:42.25 | Bruners | Sylvir: why do you show your own name and title btw? :P |
| 06:42.35 | Sylvir | O.o I don't know tBH |
| 06:42.38 | Sylvir | tbh* |
| 06:42.46 | Sylvir | With all Warriors, DK's, and whatnot looking the same |
| 06:42.54 | Sylvir | I wouldn't be able to tell myself apart from a crowd |
| 06:43.26 | Bruners | its the one in the middle of your screen with no name over it :P |
| 06:43.47 | Sylvir | T_T |
| 06:43.49 | Sylvir | its so awesome though |
| 06:43.55 | Sylvir | why wouldn't I show my name? |
| 06:44.13 | Bruners | because you already know your name, no point having it up |
| 06:44.27 | Bruners | just a personal taste for me at least |
| 06:44.36 | Sylvir | I like it :( |
| 06:45.59 | Shirik | I put it above mine |
| 06:46.06 | Shirik | I can't stand the inconsistency |
| 06:46.09 | Sylvir | XD |
| 06:46.13 | Sylvir | I'm off for the night |
| 06:46.17 | Sylvir | thanks for the feedback guys :D |
| 06:47.00 | Bruners | i tried to remove guild tags from everyone but found myself checking what guild everone was in all the time :P |
| 06:50.50 | Jerub | i've asked this befre, but i have to ask again. |
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| 06:50.58 | Jerub | is there a decent addon for keeping notes about people? |
| 06:51.03 | Jerub | about toons. |
| 06:52.29 | Shirik | I used to use one called Karma |
| 06:53.17 | Ancu | ~seen ZorbaTHut |
| 06:53.18 | purl | zorbathut is currently on #wowuidev (3d 21h 38m 6s) #curseforge (3d 21h 38m 6s). Has said a total of 202 messages. Is idling for 8h 24m 33s, last said: 'ancu, use a text editor that understands unix hardreturns :P'. |
| 06:53.57 | Shirik | ~seen Shirik |
| 06:53.57 | purl | shirik is currently on #norganna (1d 23h 32m 24s) #wowuidev (1d 23h 32m 24s) #wowace (1d 23h 32m 24s). Has said a total of 631 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Shirik'. |
| 06:54.08 | Shirik | only 631 |
| 06:54.10 | Shirik | I think you lie |
| 07:06.44 | Thunder_Child | you right Shirik, you talk to yourself more than that |
| 07:06.52 | Thunder_Child | you're |
| 07:07.55 | Shirik | hey |
| 07:08.03 | Shirik | be nice or I will sic Fisker on you |
| 07:08.16 | Thunder_Child | try it, i eat Fisker's trout for breakfast |
| 07:08.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker's about as scary as a declawed kitten |
| 07:08.28 | Shirik | but can you eat it with 1000 liters of milk? |
| 07:08.29 | NightHawkTheSane | and not nearly as cute |
| 07:08.45 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i can eat it with 2000 liters |
| 07:10.28 | Shirik | Fisker: I give you http://www.flickr.com/photos/roskopf/3985579222/ |
| 07:12.30 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulcoyle/2222126842/sizes/m/ |
| 07:12.40 | Dagmar | Shirik: I think the answer is "swimmingly" |
| 07:12.46 | Shirik | Fisker, did you know 1000 liters of water = 1 liter of milk? http://www.waterfootprint.org/?page=files/home |
| 07:12.59 | Shirik | so 1000 liters of milk = 1000000 liters of water |
| 07:13.04 | Shirik | 1 megaliter! |
| 07:13.26 | Fisker | i disagree Shirik |
| 07:13.35 | Dagmar | That site is lunacy. |
| 07:13.45 | Dagmar | For one thing, we know DHMO to be an INCREDIBLY deadly compound. |
| 07:14.00 | Shirik | So milk is deadly |
| 07:14.02 | Dagmar | For the other, they completely overlook that water is ultimately recycled pretty effectively by nature. |
| 07:14.15 | Shirik | this would explain why Fisker uses tons of milk |
| 07:14.16 | Dagmar | it's not like you put 16,000 liters of water into a cow and it _stays_ in there |
| 07:14.20 | Shirik | yup |
| 07:14.22 | Shirik | it says there |
| 07:14.33 | Dagmar | Until some wise ass sneaks up and pokes it with a pin |
| 07:14.33 | Shirik | and then when you eat the cow, the water is destroyed |
| 07:14.46 | Bruners | i havent drinked milk in about two months |
| 07:14.46 | Dagmar | ...and then SPLOOOSH there's 2% milk everywhere |
| 07:14.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:14.56 | Torhal | Shirik: You're a much better troll than Fisker when you decide to spout nonsense. |
| 07:15.04 | Shirik | This paper has rotted my brain |
| 07:15.13 | Bruners | Torhal: but Fisker does it all the time |
| 07:15.18 | Shirik | that being said, I think this is one of the better papers I've written |
| 07:15.20 | Torhal | Heh |
| 07:15.50 | Bruners | cant believe all this trouble was fixed by adding "Xinerama" "True" to xorg |
| 07:15.58 | Dagmar | *snicker* |
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| 07:18.14 | Shirik | I resolved a problem with xorg once by taking my ATI card and breaking it in two |
| 07:18.26 | Bruners | :) |
| 07:18.26 | Dagmar | cheers for Shirik |
| 07:18.36 | Dagmar | God I wish more peopel would do that |
| 07:18.43 | Bruners | i slightly hate myself for going ATI |
| 07:19.07 | Dagmar | They'll go through HELL trying to get DRI working with ATI so they can play back video, and drive people in help forums and channels absolutely nuts |
| 07:19.28 | Dagmar | ...when spending thirty bucks on an nVidia card and using Fed-Ex shipping is _generally faster_ |
| 07:19.36 | Jerub | k, i installed freebgrid, but i don't know how to use it. |
| 07:19.45 | Fisker | i kill you Jerub |
| 07:20.05 | Dagmar | By the way, did anyone else get the weird mail saying you could get free play time for Anarchy Online? |
| 07:20.18 | Dagmar | They have me at a loss. I thought they went F2P a looong time ago |
| 07:20.22 | Jerub | oh ,right, forgot to restart wow properly. |
| 07:20.31 | Fisker | maybe if i played it Dagmar |
| 07:20.33 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH |
| 07:20.39 | Dagmar | Fisker: I played it when it first came out |
| 07:20.46 | Dagmar | Their deep beta notes were hilarious |
| 07:21.01 | Dagmar | They were actually running the entire thing as a set of perl cgi |
| 07:21.16 | Dagmar | In theory it's a good idea, but it does NOT SCALE |
| 07:21.43 | Fisker | that's what she said |
| 07:22.06 | Wobin | Dagmar, I thought it was "You've done freeplay, but look what you get if you subscribe now!" |
| 07:22.26 | Dagmar | Wobin: Hm... that may have been what they were on about |
| 07:22.41 | Dagmar | I didn't look too closely because apparently the tail end of this week was "Beg the players to come back" for just about everyone |
| 07:22.50 | Dagmar | I got nine different mails of that nature |
| 07:22.52 | Wobin | yeah |
| 07:22.55 | Wobin | AoC |
| 07:22.58 | Wobin | LotRO |
| 07:23.01 | Wobin | AO |
| 07:23.04 | Dagmar | Yeah no way in hell I'm going back to AoC |
| 07:23.07 | Wobin | hehe |
| 07:23.10 | Bruners | np: Corona - The rhythm of the night |
| 07:23.16 | Wobin | I <3 my AoC toon |
| 07:23.19 | Wobin | Fuziwuzi |
| 07:23.22 | Dagmar | You don't get to just lie to people about hardware requirements and have them forget about it |
| 07:23.26 | Wobin | (was a Bear [shaman]) |
| 07:23.40 | Dagmar | Their release was funny tho |
| 07:23.45 | Dagmar | Apparently some of their investors played the game. |
| 07:23.57 | Dagmar | Funcom's stock went down like a cheap dockworker |
| 07:24.01 | Wobin | oooh, never a good move =P |
| 07:24.28 | Shirik | I think I should be a business major |
| 07:24.34 | Shirik | I just wrote this without thinking: |
| 07:24.43 | Dagmar | Wouldn't you rather do something productive with your life? |
| 07:24.48 | Shirik | However, if the initial use case is flawed, then the enter trace tree is invalid. The goal of agile requirement engineers, then, becomes not a need to get the requirements perfect, but to make the customer understand that the team is listening to his/her input. |
| 07:25.01 | Shirik | Translation: The goal of software is not to make the software that the user wants, but the software that makes the user happy |
| 07:25.13 | Shirik | Which is totally not what I wanted to say, but it's whati t says |
| 07:25.22 | Dagmar | That's more of a tech writer thing |
| 07:25.27 | Dagmar | There's actually some decent money there |
| 07:26.02 | Shirik | I just find it amusing that the conclusion is that we don't really care if we're doing things right so long as the customer is happy |
| 07:26.30 | Dagmar | Well, ideally you want to do both, but... |
| 07:26.48 | Dagmar | ...unless you can do the latter, you might as well just be shoving pencils up your nose for all the good the first part will do you. |
| 07:30.05 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.dothedaft.com/idaft/ |
| 07:31.30 | ccox | Shirik - and yet, some companies work that way |
| 07:31.44 | ccox | Others cater to what the customer asks for, right or wrong |
| 07:31.57 | ccox | and few actually try to get the customer what they need |
| 07:32.04 | Bruners | http://bildr.no/image/525468.jpeg H1N1 |
| 07:33.00 | Fisker | baw NightHawkTheSane |
| 07:33.05 | Fisker | i failed right off the bat |
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| 07:46.53 | NightHawkTheSane | awesome: http://20.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ksytxtCOgx1qzc5azo1_500.jpg |
| 07:48.44 | Thunder_Child | someone has way to much time on their hands |
| 07:49.05 | Thunder_Child | you know, like us |
| 07:49.29 | Shirik | ah that's cool |
| 07:49.31 | Shirik | tilt shift? |
| 07:49.35 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 07:49.47 | Thunder_Child | and many staples |
| 07:49.51 | Shirik | lol yeah |
| 07:50.34 | Industrial | morning! |
| 07:50.40 | Shirik | I would hate myself if I knocked that down |
| 07:50.45 | Shirik | I wonder if he ever did while building it |
| 07:51.04 | Thunder_Child | or he glued the bases |
| 07:51.14 | Shirik | that would be too easy |
| 07:51.30 | Gnarfoz | I think the question should not be if, but how many times |
| 07:51.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 07:52.08 | Industrial | dont those strips stick together? |
| 07:52.24 | Thunder_Child | Industrial, but not to the ground |
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| 07:57.19 | Industrial | hopes he lands his new job next thursday; this semester I have 4 days a week to work ;o (while doing my CS study) and my current job suckssss |
| 07:59.24 | Bruners | morning Industrial |
| 07:59.47 | Thunder_Child | more like mourning |
| 08:01.17 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: loll |
| 08:01.32 | Industrial | Bruners: hai, hows cv doing? |
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| 08:02.48 | Bruners | Industrial: haste has been a retard and gone back to Refusion, else all is well |
| 08:03.52 | Bruners | Industrial: 47 tries left 5/5 togc 10, 2/5 togc 25 |
| 08:10.01 | Industrial | slaps haste around with a trout |
| 08:10.10 | Industrial | wth :p |
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| 08:32.43 | Thunder_Child | you slaped haste around with the tongue of a trout? thats just mean |
| 08:32.57 | Thunder_Child | almost like something fisker would do |
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| 08:33.17 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/wall_clock.jpg |
| 08:33.50 | Industrial | mikma: nice |
| 08:36.49 | Jerub | ouf_freebgrid doesn't work, lua error on start. |
| 08:37.17 | Jerub | wait, uh, bugger. might've stuffed it. |
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| 08:48.53 | Jerub | okay, fixed it now |
| 08:49.00 | Jerub | but now i have no idea how to move the frame |
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| 09:07.50 | Fisker | why do i always wind up with the "Most knife kills"-accolade in MW2? :( |
| 09:08.49 | Bruners | Jerub: install oUF_MoveableFrames or edit the lua |
| 09:09.01 | Bruners | Jerub: or im not even sure if it can move raid frames |
| 09:10.00 | Shirik | Adys, ping |
| 09:10.49 | Adys | pong Shiibot |
| 09:10.50 | Adys | shirik |
| 09:10.56 | Shirik | nm I found it |
| 09:11.00 | Shirik | needed a «» |
| 09:11.14 | Shirik | you have them on your keyboard yes? |
| 09:11.19 | Adys | yes |
| 09:11.25 | Shirik | strange people |
| 09:11.33 | Adys | altgr shift ( |
| 09:11.35 | Adys | altgr shift ) |
| 09:11.42 | Shirik | wtf is altgr |
| 09:11.50 | Adys | huh er |
| 09:11.55 | Adys | its right alt key |
| 09:12.10 | Shirik | yeah I don't know wtf that did |
| 09:12.16 | Shirik | but it didn't make a « |
| 09:12.23 | Shirik | it threw my windows all over the place |
| 09:12.27 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:12.29 | Adys | thats because you dont use my keyboard layout |
| 09:12.30 | Adys | \o/ |
| 09:12.36 | Fisker | Shirik is powerless to stop me |
| 09:12.36 | Adys | «»«»»«»««»«««»« |
| 09:12.37 | Shirik | I use a man's keyboard layout |
| 09:12.42 | Fisker | «»«»»«»««»«««»««»«»»«»««»«««»««»«»»«»««»«««»««»«»»«»««»«««»««»«»»«»««»«««»« |
| 09:12.42 | Fisker | i win |
| 09:12.48 | Shirik | mine's longer |
| 09:13.08 | Shirik | er |
| 09:13.11 | Shirik | I wonder if he did that intentionally |
| 09:13.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 09:13.29 | Shirik | wb! |
| 09:13.38 | Adys | I hate harddrives |
| 09:13.40 | Adys | slow as shit |
| 09:13.48 | Adys | hey |
| 09:14.02 | Adys | props to whoever can find the sg1 asgard soundtrack |
| 09:14.16 | Adys | been looking for it for two days no |
| 09:14.18 | Adys | ww |
| 09:14.20 | Adys | -w |
| 09:14.25 | krka | ooh adys, i didn't know i could d «» with altgr-shift-() |
| 09:14.40 | Adys | thats because you cant |
| 09:14.46 | Adys | i added that in my layout |
| 09:14.46 | krka | i could actually |
| 09:14.54 | Adys | which btw I cant live without |
| 09:14.58 | Adys | you could? Oo |
| 09:15.01 | krka | seems to be default here |
| 09:15.12 | Adys | smart people |
| 09:15.12 | nevcairiel | what a coincedence o.O |
| 09:15.14 | krka | ubuntu swedish layout |
| 09:15.24 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/devrix |
| 09:15.29 | krka | ¹²³¼¢â
÷«»°¿¬ |
| 09:15.45 | krka | that's altgr-shift for the top line (numerical) |
| 09:15.47 | Adys | øwâ¬Â®â¢Â¥ÂµÂµâŧ§{{}ÃWEEâTYⶫ»ÃÃâGHââ⺢¢à |
| 09:16.08 | nevcairiel | i still wonder why my layout comes with ²³ but skipped the 1 |
| 09:16.12 | krka | not sure when i'd use «» though |
| 09:16.12 | Adys | altgr shift for the top line: ¹²³â´âµâ¶â·â¸â¹â°"' |
| 09:16.39 | Adys | er |
| 09:16.42 | Adys | sorry thats altgr |
| 09:16.43 | krka | wait, wouldn't 8 and 9 be «» ? |
| 09:16.48 | Adys | altgr shift is a bunch of dead accents |
| 09:16.53 | Adys | ¬¬ |
| 09:17.08 | Adys | and uh no? |
| 09:17.18 | Adys | ()[]{}«» |
| 09:17.23 | Adys | thats the keys next to P |
| 09:17.26 | krka | never mind, () is probably just on 8 and 9 on swedish layouts |
| 09:17.36 | Adys | it is on french ones too |
| 09:17.36 | Fisker | rolls a grenade into Shirik's room |
| 09:17.38 | Adys | very gay |
| 09:17.47 | Shirik | It's ok, I'm at school anyway |
| 09:18.14 | Fisker | but you'll die Shirik |
| 09:18.19 | Shirik | no I won't |
| 09:18.25 | Fisker | wanna bet? |
| 09:18.53 | Shirik | right alt + shift for the top line: |
| 09:19.01 | Shirik | that's it |
| 09:19.09 | Adys | useful |
| 09:19.11 | Shirik | all it does is switch between all my open channels :P |
| 09:19.39 | Adys | ``|||⦠|
| 09:19.45 | Shirik | I can do that too |
| 09:19.47 | Shirik | ``|||... |
| 09:19.49 | Adys | with only one finger? |
| 09:19.56 | Shirik | um |
| 09:20.00 | Adys | and thats a ⦠not a ... |
| 09:20.00 | Shirik | if I try really hard, yes |
| 09:20.05 | Adys | ok |
| 09:20.10 | Adys | with only the tip of the thumb? |
| 09:20.16 | Shirik | ```|||... |
| 09:20.17 | Shirik | did it |
| 09:20.26 | Adys | i said ⦠|
| 09:20.28 | Adys | not ... |
| 09:20.57 | Shirik | ⦠|
| 09:21.03 | Adys | way to copypaste |
| 09:21.07 | Shirik | ok ctrl+v is a hell of a lot more difficult |
| 09:21.09 | Shirik | with one finger |
| 09:30.04 | Bruners | what torrent app do you use on linux ? |
| 09:30.20 | airtonix | transmission |
| 09:30.22 | airtonix | or deluge |
| 09:30.42 | airtonix | or rtorrent for gui-less machines |
| 09:30.53 | airtonix | transmission has cli now though |
| 09:31.01 | Arrowmaster | do does deluge |
| 09:31.04 | Arrowmaster | so |
| 09:31.31 | airtonix | as seperate binary? |
| 09:31.50 | Adys | transmission is really nice |
| 09:31.53 | Arrowmaster | depends on your distro |
| 09:32.06 | Arrowmaster | i didnt like transmission |
| 09:32.19 | Arrowmaster | it didnt have any options |
| 09:32.34 | Adys | neither did i at first |
| 09:32.43 | Adys | then i figured out that i didnt actually need any of those options |
| 09:32.50 | Industrial | I still like uTorrent best |
| 09:32.52 | airtonix | trasnmission-cli |
| 09:32.55 | Arrowmaster | i do need them |
| 09:33.19 | zenzelezz | Industrial: I run µTorrent in Wine on my linux box :-o |
| 09:33.39 | Bruners | Industrial: do you run µtorrent on wine? |
| 09:33.43 | Industrial | I couldnt get used to rtorrent |
| 09:33.45 | airtonix | transmission-daemon, transmission-remote, transmissioncli |
| 09:33.46 | Industrial | no, windows |
| 09:34.08 | Adys | zenzelezz: ktorrent is a very nice replacement for µtorrent |
| 09:34.13 | airtonix | rTorrent is having some fairly ok side-projects for remote gui |
| 09:34.39 | zenzelezz | Adys: I used ktorrent for a while; it works, but I just prefer µTorrent |
| 09:34.49 | Adys | fair enoug |
| 09:34.53 | Adys | i just use transmission |
| 09:34.55 | airtonix | apart from the tiny filesize and its portability,... what else has utorrent got going for it? |
| 09:35.13 | zenzelezz | I'd never seen Transmission before, might try that just to see |
| 09:35.20 | Arrowmaster | what portability? |
| 09:35.29 | Arrowmaster | its windows only and closed source |
| 09:35.42 | airtonix | before i got into linux, i used utorrent because i could run it from a usb pen drive |
| 09:35.46 | Industrial | transmission is only not windows, just everywhere else :p |
| 09:36.05 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, portability as in portableApps.com |
| 09:36.27 | Arrowmaster | why would you use a portable torrent client? |
| 09:36.47 | airtonix | why not? |
| 09:37.31 | airtonix | doesn't really concern me thought |
| 09:37.31 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: i can plug my portable harddrive on any computer and start utorrent |
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| 09:40.41 | Shirik | 14 pages (11 content), 5195 words |
| 09:40.45 | Shirik | lua> 5195/12 |
| 09:40.46 | lua_bot | Shirik: 432.91666666667 |
| 09:40.54 | Shirik | 432 words an hour, while distracted by IRC and WoW |
| 09:40.58 | Shirik | I think that's pretty good |
| 09:46.17 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:46.34 | Fisker | i could do better in a few seconds |
| 09:54.24 | Shirik | no you couldn't |
| 09:55.05 | zenzelezz | well he speaks Danish, so no-one would be able to tell if it was 500 words or just one big weird sound |
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| 09:57.06 | Fisker | yes i could Shirik |
| 09:57.43 | Shirik | I bet Fisker doesn't know that telelogical requirements development ensures quality of requirements. |
| 09:57.57 | krka | weird that you round 432.9 to 432 :P |
| 09:58.08 | Shirik | I didn't look krka :P |
| 09:58.15 | krka | weird that you didn't look |
| 09:58.22 | Shirik | wierd that you did! |
| 09:58.39 | krka | weird how you spell weird |
| 09:58.48 | Shirik | wierd how you don't spell wierd wierd |
| 09:59.14 | krka | i dont know if you mean weird or wired :( |
| 09:59.34 | Shirik | :P |
| 09:59.40 | Shirik | maybe that's the goal |
| 10:00.03 | Fisker | my goal is to kill you Shirik |
| 10:00.30 | Fisker | i'm going to kill you to a point where you are dead |
| 10:00.51 | Esine | heyy since when are there ghosts in IronForge? |
| 10:03.00 | Cide | you're wieird, Shirik |
| 10:03.03 | Esine | ah nvm it's someone's buf.. Haunted |
| 10:03.11 | Fisker | lets make a game |
| 10:03.15 | Fisker | "Rick'n'Roll" |
| 10:03.19 | Fisker | it's a rickroll simulator |
| 10:03.52 | Shirik | Cide |
| 10:03.56 | Shirik | my paper is aweesome |
| 10:04.04 | Shirik | it even has a powerpoint diagram |
| 10:04.10 | Shirik | ain't no powerpoint capabilities in LaTeX |
| 10:04.12 | Fisker | i think it sucks |
| 10:04.31 | Cide | latex is annoying |
| 10:04.44 | Cide | I like it for math but couldn't care for the rest |
| 10:04.47 | krka | isn't it weird that all swedes in the channel are awesome developers, and all danish people in the channel are trolls? |
| 10:04.53 | krka | yet somehow logical |
| 10:04.56 | Cide | true story |
| 10:05.10 | Fisker | Shirik is swedish? |
| 10:05.21 | nevcairiel | Shirik is awesome? |
| 10:05.33 | Fisker | i'm danish? |
| 10:06.37 | Cide | I'm swedish? |
| 10:07.23 | Adys | I'm amazing? |
| 10:07.40 | Fisker | You're incredible? |
| 10:07.53 | Cide | yes? |
| 10:08.23 | Fisker | Wait i'm a troll? |
| 10:08.31 | Bruners | danes > swedes |
| 10:08.42 | Cide | lua> "danes" > "swedes" |
| 10:08.42 | lua_bot | Cide: false |
| 10:08.51 | Fisker | that's not what you said when we murdered and plundered you Bruners |
| 10:09.49 | Bruners | Fisker: its ok, we got your king |
| 10:11.27 | Fisker | you have my sword |
| 10:11.52 | Shirik | nevcairiel :( |
| 10:12.00 | Fisker | Shirik :) |
| 10:12.07 | Shirik | :) |
| 10:12.43 | Adys | so I have a problem |
| 10:13.00 | Adys | gparted tells me my entire harddrive is 931.51GiB of unallocated space |
| 10:13.15 | Shirik | I agree with it |
| 10:13.24 | Adys | sudo gparted |
| 10:13.24 | Adys | Can't have overlapping partitions. |
| 10:13.42 | nevcairiel | overlapping partitions are bad |
| 10:13.48 | Adys | howdoifix |
| 10:13.54 | nevcairiel | delete, recreate |
| 10:14.00 | Adys | wut what |
| 10:14.12 | nevcairiel | no idea if you can save your data =P |
| 10:14.14 | Adys | I got two partitions on this hd (+ swap) |
| 10:14.23 | Adys | I want to yank the second one |
| 10:14.46 | nevcairiel | tried if fdisk doesnt just give up? |
| 10:14.58 | nevcairiel | if you just want to delete it, it can do the job |
| 10:15.28 | Grum | if you are not using fdisk blame the tool :D |
| 10:15.34 | Adys | Im using gparted |
| 10:15.39 | Shirik | you know what else is good at deleting stuff? |
| 10:15.49 | Adys | well actually anyway Ill do a clean sweep when I get back here |
| 10:15.57 | nevcairiel | i only use gparted when i want to resize partitions or something |
| 10:16.06 | Adys | thats exactly what i want to do |
| 10:16.09 | Shirik | cat /dev/hdb | gzip -1 > /dev/hda |
| 10:16.19 | Shirik | now you have a compressed partition! |
| 10:16.30 | nevcairiel | does that even work? |
| 10:16.42 | Adys | you cant output to a hard device |
| 10:16.47 | Shirik | it is very effective at deleting data on /dev/hda |
| 10:16.48 | nevcairiel | I dont think the devices are character devices |
| 10:16.50 | Shirik | what why :( |
| 10:16.54 | nevcairiel | you can probably do it with dd |
| 10:16.58 | Shirik | fine |
| 10:17.00 | Shirik | dd |
| 10:17.01 | Shirik | that |
| 10:17.12 | Esine | gzip /dev/hdb | dd of=/dev/hda |
| 10:17.14 | Esine | would do it |
| 10:17.23 | Esine | or gzip -c /dev/hdb | dd of=/dev/hda |
| 10:17.28 | Esine | anyway.. |
| 10:18.40 | Fisker | dd= durrdurr? |
| 10:18.44 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:18.52 | Fisker | :o |
| 10:19.11 | Esine | direct dump or something |
| 10:20.02 | Shirik | dd stands for "convert and copy" |
| 10:21.30 | Grum | also when it involves girls? |
| 10:21.52 | Esine | so.. is there an easy way to make user interfaces for addons in WoW yet? using ready-made widgets and not having to be a graphics artist and editing tons of XML. I know there is AceGUI-3, but how usable is it these days? |
| 10:22.11 | Grum | it should be usable for config purposes |
| 10:22.23 | Bruners | deluge is sweet |
| 10:22.34 | Arrowmaster | and nobody sane uses XML |
| 10:22.43 | Fisker | i use XML |
| 10:22.45 | Esine | deluge? |
| 10:23.04 | Bruners | its like µTorrent only for linux |
| 10:23.24 | Esine | ah.. rtorrent pretty nice imo |
| 10:23.30 | Grum | rtorrent ftw |
| 10:23.45 | Esine | there should be a port of GTK+ to WoW heh |
| 10:24.44 | Shirik | no ty |
| 10:25.03 | Shirik | omg |
| 10:25.10 | Shirik | maybe we can port OpenGL to Lua |
| 10:25.15 | Shirik | let's do it |
| 10:25.18 | Grum | why would you need all kinds of windows etc for anything? |
| 10:25.30 | Esine | apparently you haven't heard of LuaGL |
| 10:25.55 | Esine | Grum: to make a custom UI? not everything is config stuff |
| 10:26.06 | Fisker | or DirectX 11 to printers |
| 10:26.16 | Grum | Esine: what wouldnt be? |
| 10:26.36 | Shirik | Esine: LuaGL would be an OpenGL binding |
| 10:26.38 | Shirik | not an OpenGL port |
| 10:26.55 | Esine | hm yes |
| 10:27.34 | nevcairiel | A full software opengl renderer in Lua? Man thats going to be slow |
| 10:27.35 | Esine | I guess I should try AceGUI once more, hoping it's matured |
| 10:27.41 | Esine | I like the api |
| 10:28.00 | Shirik | nevcairiel :P |
| 10:28.00 | Shirik | so what |
| 10:28.06 | Shirik | So was Prism |
| 10:29.08 | Adys | [12:23:45] <Esine> there should be a port of GTK+ to WoW heh |
| 10:29.12 | Adys | .. what the hell for? |
| 10:29.22 | nevcairiel | Maybe he likes the GTK+ APIs :P |
| 10:29.32 | Esine | it's much better than editing XML. |
| 10:29.37 | Shirik | so don't edit XML |
| 10:29.38 | Esine | and what I'm familiar with |
| 10:29.46 | Adys | they're raw interfaces to stuff thats totally irrelevant to wow |
| 10:29.50 | nevcairiel | I never ever build a GUI in XML |
| 10:30.38 | Esine | so, in WoW, if I wanted to have a simple window with widgets like treeview/list, input box, a button, and be able to display an image and text, can I do it all within lua without having to include my own artwork? |
| 10:30.52 | Esine | not very specific I know |
| 10:30.52 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 10:31.00 | nevcairiel | AceGUI manages, why wouldnt you |
| 10:31.07 | Grum | hmmm not really, i'd use AceGUI for that, saves you doing all the graphic positions |
| 10:31.08 | Esine | alright, so I'll use acegui |
| 10:31.34 | nevcairiel | If you encounter any weirdnesses in AceGUI let me know and i might even fix it |
| 10:31.47 | Esine | are you the maintainer? |
| 10:32.04 | Grum | nevcairiel is indeed |
| 10:34.27 | nevcairiel | I should finally fix the remaining tickets and push for a release |
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| 10:55.23 | mikma | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8360569.stm |
| 10:56.05 | mikma | nom nom nom |
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| 10:59.38 | Balreign | awesome |
| 11:04.12 | Shirik | nevcairiel is full of crap |
| 11:04.16 | Shirik | he doesn't fix anything |
| 11:04.27 | nevcairiel | yeah i justr produce more bugs |
| 11:04.34 | nevcairiel | and i cant type anymore |
| 11:13.58 | Fisker | ragequit |
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| 11:23.56 | Bruners | haste: poke |
| 11:25.26 | Shirik | mikma you are bad |
| 11:28.38 | mikma | shirik: thanks! |
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| 11:30.32 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 11:30.45 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 11:30.53 | Shirik | lolgourr |
| 11:31.18 | Fisker | durr |
| 11:34.17 | Fisker | whatup Shirik ? |
| 11:35.49 | Shirik | durrdurr |
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| 11:42.27 | haste | Bruners: poke |
| 11:42.51 | Bruners | haste: got it working now, pulseaudio rage! |
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| 11:45.29 | haste | Bruners: weeee |
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| 12:32.11 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:32.14 | Fisker | fu with me |
| 12:34.27 | haste | ffffffuuuuuu |
| 12:35.32 | Fisker | yay |
| 12:36.00 | Bruners | pulseaudio ffffffuuuuu |
| 12:36.21 | Jerub | fucking pulse |
| 12:36.22 | Jerub | :( |
| 12:36.34 | nevcairiel | it always worked fine for me, and even without configuration |
| 12:36.56 | haste | how can it work without configurations? |
| 12:37.00 | haste | that makes no sense at all! |
| 12:37.12 | Bruners | because ubuntu most likely did the configuration for him |
| 12:37.25 | nevcairiel | it uses udev to detect your hardware, what other configuration is there |
| 12:37.32 | nevcairiel | i use gentoo :P |
| 12:37.57 | haste | you need to add a init script at least! |
| 12:38.02 | nevcairiel | no way |
| 12:38.07 | nevcairiel | system-wide pulse daemon is fail |
| 12:38.13 | Bruners | the version i installed tries to use hal but says it should be using udev |
| 12:40.00 | Bruners | nevcairiel: but, do you use oss4 or alsa? |
| 12:40.07 | nevcairiel | alsa |
| 12:40.13 | nevcairiel | oss4 isnt meant to be used with pulse |
| 12:40.35 | Bruners | its the other way around |
| 12:41.06 | haste | oss4 already have the pulseaudio stuff |
| 12:41.18 | haste | except the API that is :P |
| 12:43.25 | nevcairiel | I never had a reason to switch to oss4, never had any issues with alsa/pulse, so no touching of a running system |
| 12:44.55 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:46.22 | Fisker | er du medlem af danmark haste? |
| 12:50.20 | haste | ofc not Fisker ! |
| 12:50.58 | Fisker | så kan du ikke få tilskud til zoneterapi |
| 12:51.05 | mikma | hmmmm, i need cool icons :( |
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| 13:13.24 | Aelo | http://static.curseforge.net/content/images/17/885/ToneMatrix.jpg \o/ |
| 13:15.00 | Jerub | i broke something and now character portraits aren't displayed. |
| 13:15.04 | Jerub | and i don't know what i broke :/ |
| 13:16.35 | zenzelezz | Aelo: :-o |
| 13:16.38 | Corrodias | you broke the display of character portraits. |
| 13:16.54 | Jerub | i don't know how i did it. |
| 13:17.04 | Jerub | i could probably go through and disable addons one by one. |
| 13:17.08 | Corrodias | puts this moment on his resume as contributing to an open source project. |
| 13:17.20 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 13:17.51 | Jerub | more or less how i got my first IT job. |
| 13:18.00 | Jerub | put kernel patches on my resume. |
| 13:19.19 | Fisker | I got valued community member on mine |
| 13:20.04 | Jerub | Fisker: someone to slap with a fish? |
| 13:20.49 | foxlit | Hm, autobar died? |
| 13:25.13 | Jerub | tries reinstalling spartanui |
| 13:26.09 | foxlit | So I'm thinking about detecting similar sorts of items -- food, potions, elixirs etc. |
| 13:27.00 | foxlit | From here, it looks like stealing item IDs from somewhere (and keeping them in a sizable DB) is the easiest way to go; programmatically detecting item classification seems somewhat nasty. |
| 13:27.53 | foxlit | GetItemInfo would be able to provide some granularity with itemType/itemSubType, but that tends to be quite meh in practice; GetItemStats is useless around items with procs, and GetItemSpell just returns a spell name, which gives you nothing. |
| 13:28.04 | foxlit | Am I missing anything? |
| 13:33.29 | haste | Bruners: voa25! |
| 13:35.13 | Legorol | Aelo: wow, what is that? |
| 13:35.21 | Aelo | an ingame music machine |
| 13:35.48 | foxlit | I demand animations and swirling pretty colors. |
| 13:35.55 | Aelo | noes :< |
| 13:36.01 | Aelo | maybe in another version :P |
| 13:36.16 | foxlit | [The lack of convolution and matrix transforms in the animation API makes that painful, however.] |
| 13:36.52 | Aelo | i'd have to store an animation for all 256 squares <_> |
| 13:37.12 | Aelo | my computer struggles to just play each column per 1/6th of a second :P |
| 13:37.20 | foxlit | synchronise spelling also looks odd. |
| 13:37.27 | Aelo | bah <_> |
| 13:37.40 | Jerub | yep, it was spartanui, i must've screwed it |
| 13:37.45 | Aelo | dammit, it's a Z |
| 13:37.48 | Aelo | meh :P |
| 13:38.01 | foxlit | It's usually a Z in US english. |
| 13:38.10 | Aelo | dam you google define! |
| 13:38.11 | foxlit | I'm not sure why the british spelling is... unavailable... in this case. |
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| 13:39.10 | Aelo | i think it's Z for both |
| 13:39.29 | Aelo | i don't spellcheck whilst coding :P i tend to do that before upload which i obviously forgot |
| 13:44.10 | foxlit | Aelo: that would appear to be the case, but "why?" is interesting. |
| 13:44.25 | Aelo | why what? :P |
| 13:44.37 | foxlit | Why is it a Z for both, when the typical british suffix is "-ise"? |
| 13:45.08 | Aelo | oh, didnt get that message :P |
| 13:46.52 | zenzelezz | the British also operate on coordinate systems with X, Y and S |
| 13:47.24 | Aelo | slaps zenzelezz |
| 13:54.02 | foxlit | Grumble. |
| 13:54.35 | foxlit | 6 / 6 meaningless letter-combination domain names I've tried are currently parked for no good reason. |
| 13:58.49 | A-KO | hmmm |
| 13:58.50 | A-KO | this isn't good |
| 13:59.34 | A-KO | I just merged my EU account to my battle net logon, and it shows up in the list,k but now when I login to WoW, it gives me the US realm list--even though I changed the realmlist via the console beforehand |
| 14:00.18 | ScytheBlade1 | have to change the bnet logon server as well |
| 14:01.20 | A-KO | hmmm |
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| 14:09.03 | A-KO | sigh, fail |
| 14:12.16 | A-KO | I think I'm reading that there are issues if the two wow accounts share the same account name |
| 14:12.18 | A-KO | which they do |
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| 14:18.55 | haste | A-KO: and portal |
| 14:19.13 | A-KO | yeah just did that and it worked lol |
| 14:19.15 | haste | A-KO: I play with US client on EU fine at least, just update the realmlist file |
| 14:19.24 | A-KO | eh you can do it with the console |
| 14:19.32 | A-KO | just start wow with the -console variable and type it in :P |
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| 14:26.58 | Kraps | how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if pie? |
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| 14:31.36 | Aelo | how dare you say chuck with no norris! |
| 14:33.25 | Kraps | wow, MW2 has 1 and a half stars on amazon |
| 14:33.33 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/15/funny-pictures-the-robot/ |
| 14:35.00 | zenzelezz | better still, http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/11/13/funny-pictures-warning-2/ |
| 14:36.28 | Aelo | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/03/27/invisible-measuring-tape/ :P |
| 14:38.16 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 14:40.24 | Kraps | that website has 10 tabs. if you spend 1 hour on each tab (which is very possible) there goes the day |
| 14:42.17 | Aelo | or just scroll down, read 3 comment, you'll be forced to close the page |
| 14:42.22 | Aelo | *comments |
| 14:42.39 | Kraps | haha |
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| 15:00.46 | Urglurk-Maiev | hi I have a macro question |
| 15:01.26 | zenzelezz | go ahead and ask, if you're lucky someone will be awake this early |
| 15:02.20 | Urglurk-Maiev | Is there a way to add in a /castsequence an if statement for life tap that checks if your health is above say 80% or if not a percentage if it is full |
| 15:03.36 | Aelo | nope :P |
| 15:03.56 | Urglurk-Maiev | dang |
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| 15:15.20 | Aelo | what time is it in the USA atm? |
| 15:15.31 | nevcairiel | where in the US? |
| 15:15.36 | Aelo | erm |
| 15:15.39 | Aelo | *shrug* :P |
| 15:15.52 | p3lim | US got many timezones¨ |
| 15:15.55 | nevcairiel | from 10am to 6am you have all the zones, i suppose |
| 15:16.06 | Aelo | ah ok |
| 15:16.21 | Aelo | was wondering how early it was when zenz mentioned it being early |
| 15:19.11 | zenzelezz | it's Sunday, all day is early |
| 15:19.34 | Aelo | true |
| 15:22.12 | Kraps_ | i love mornings |
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| 16:52.51 | Fisker | steam has 2 million players logged in now :o |
| 16:52.54 | Fisker | stupid xbox live |
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| 18:05.23 | Kraps_ | yeah steam needs to work out its issues |
| 18:05.40 | industrial | WON > Steam |
| 18:06.18 | Kraps_ | IWON? |
| 18:06.33 | industrial | WON, the system by valve that Steam replaced. |
| 18:06.48 | Kraps_ | wheres that? |
| 18:06.56 | zenzelezz | so not Westwood Online then? |
| 18:07.36 | zenzelezz | or whatever that was called |
| 18:08.18 | amro | the steam project needs to be redone completely from scratch |
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| 18:08.26 | Sylvir | Guesh who? :D |
| 18:08.34 | amro | the client alone is less stable than windows |
| 18:09.35 | zenzelezz | Steam 2.0: Diesel |
| 18:09.54 | amro | wha? |
| 18:09.55 | Kraps_ | FAIL |
| 18:10.34 | foxlit | Meh, maybe I'm not the primary audience, but steam's UI doesn't seem like much of a problem. |
| 18:11.05 | amro | it's not the UI, it's the instability. and the fact that it takes forever to a) launch steam then b) launch a game |
| 18:11.46 | foxlit | Meh, a couple of seconds for both. |
| 18:11.48 | Kraps_ | foxlit: and right now many people cant start the client for some reason |
| 18:11.50 | zenzelezz | amro: I take it Steam doesn't run well for you? I haven't had trouble with it other than that they use a non-standard UI, so I can't use alt+space |
| 18:11.53 | amro | and that it often crashes when trying to launch a game. the downloader is bad at recovering from errors and can corrupt the downloaded files, requiring a complete dredownload |
| 18:12.24 | amro | zenzelezz: it's inconsistent, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
| 18:12.53 | foxlit | "Total bytes downloaded this session: 17,188 MB" |
| 18:13.03 | amro | and that's just the client. let's not forget they screw up every other game launch |
| 18:13.03 | Ancu1 | ~seen zorbathut |
| 18:13.07 | purl | zorbathut is currently on #wowuidev (4d 8h 57m 55s) #curseforge (4d 8h 57m 55s). Has said a total of 202 messages. Is idling for 19h 44m 22s, last said: 'ancu, use a text editor that understands unix hardreturns :P'. |
| 18:13.20 | foxlit | Yet my DA download is ~53% complete, and they claim it's 15GB of content |
| 18:13.40 | Ancu1 | Come on zorba, you on? |
| 18:14.00 | amro | foxlit: L4D2 stalled at 99% for me and I had to redownload everything |
| 18:14.06 | haste | amro: it works pretty well under linux at least |
| 18:14.12 | amro | also, for some reason, when you tell it to pause a download, most of the time it doesn't listen |
| 18:14.28 | amro | haste: yeah, that's true, but it's so bad even under windows |
| 18:14.52 | amro | and you can't ever pause steam platform updates, even though actually applying the update is optional |
| 18:15.26 | amro | it also won't let you close steam if you're running a game you bought on steam even if the game doesn't depend on steam.exe |
| 18:15.38 | amro | I could go on :P |
| 18:16.02 | Ancu1 | Yeah, steam is mean to dialup users |
| 18:16.44 | Ancu | ~dict icecream |
| 18:16.49 | amro | there's no option to launch as offline unless you actually launch it then go offline. genius |
| 18:16.58 | Ancu | 0_0 what |
| 18:17.12 | amro | only if your computer is completely disconnected does it offer to go offline |
| 18:17.23 | amro | but if there's a connection, it spends 5 hours doing whatever the hell it does on login |
| 18:17.25 | cbreak | are you a thief? |
| 18:17.26 | cbreak | a pirate |
| 18:17.32 | cbreak | why do you want to play offline!? |
| 18:17.33 | amro | oO? |
| 18:17.43 | amro | I want to launch SF4, which doesn't depend on steam, and hit the training room |
| 18:17.45 | amro | sue me |
| 18:17.46 | cbreak | all hail our DRM infected overlords! |
| 18:17.52 | Ancu | amro: thats why i turn off my wierless temp. I only play online when I am at my friends house |
| 18:18.22 | foxlit | cbreak: infected? enhanced! |
| 18:18.34 | Dagmar | ...and there's not much fog coming down from the weir, I'd assume. |
| 18:18.34 | cbreak | right |
| 18:19.03 | amro | the drm on sf4 is superfluous since it uses GFWL anyway |
| 18:19.36 | Ancu | I like TFC so much I downloaded bots to play against |
| 18:19.48 | Ancu | Is zorba on yet |
| 18:19.49 | amro | oh, and I had to crack borderlands because it just wouldn't launch it for me after the first day. it would just say decrypting and do nothing |
| 18:20.19 | Ancu | lol |
| 18:21.12 | Dagmar | You could have always contacted Steam support |
| 18:21.18 | Dagmar | It shouldn't have to decrypt things but once |
| 18:21.31 | zenzelezz | amro: would the "decrypt" dialog vanish almost instantly? |
| 18:21.34 | amro | yeah, and it shouldn't have to crash, or stall, or corrupt game files, etc... |
| 18:21.37 | amro | zenzelezz: yep |
| 18:21.53 | zenzelezz | amro: I had that with MW2, was fixed if I started Steam as Administrator |
| 18:22.01 | zenzelezz | don't ask me why it didn't tell me that |
| 18:22.01 | amro | haha oh wow |
| 18:22.16 | Dagmar | Weird. Works fine under W7 here. |
| 18:22.23 | amro | well it worked the first time after decrypting, but the next steam session didn't work |
| 18:22.38 | amro | that's why I'm saying it needs a complete rewrite. it's completely FUBAR |
| 18:22.58 | foxlit | Add an "on my box" |
| 18:23.03 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: yes, that was the first time I had trouble with it |
| 18:23.30 | amro | foxlit: try the steam forum sometime, I'm not the only one with problems |
| 18:23.32 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: I think you misunderstand. It works fine here, it's been working fine. I expect that it will continue working fine |
| 18:23.50 | cbreak | ... until the servers are shut down |
| 18:24.22 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: no, I didn't misunderstand, I was agreeing that until that issue, I hadn't had any trouble on Win7 either |
| 18:24.40 | foxlit | amro: Are the steam forums a hive of scum and villainy? |
| 18:24.54 | amro | more like noobs and scrubbery |
| 18:24.54 | Dagmar | foxlit: That's just all gaming forums. |
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| 18:25.30 | foxlit | Forums usually paint an all-too-gloomy picture of things, too. |
| 18:25.43 | amro | anyway, steam client sucks. if it works for you, congratulations, that doesn't make it a robust client overall |
| 18:25.57 | foxlit | You're right, of course -- it's likely broken in some situations. As someone who hasn't encountered them (yet), I'm not convinced they need to nuke it from orbit. |
| 18:26.20 | amro | nuke it from orbit? oh no, I'd like to tear it limb from limb with my bare handsa |
| 18:26.41 | foxlit | Whatever method of annihilation you use, there's little guarantee entirely new code would fare any better. |
| 18:27.09 | amro | nope, but there's a guarantee that the current code isn't going anywhere |
| 18:27.10 | cbreak | reprioritise some things |
| 18:27.18 | cbreak | leave out all the useless baggage of drm |
| 18:31.26 | Dagmar | amro: No, it's a robust client because it's a robust client |
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| 18:33.20 | Dagmar | cbreak: As far as I can tell the DRM only gets involved when you pre-order |
| 18:33.37 | DWSR | Anyone know when they're rolling out Battle.net chat to WoW? |
| 18:33.53 | Dagmar | I've got two machines I'll play on, one of them doesn't and has never had Steam installed. |
| 18:34.07 | cbreak | DWSR: shortly before wow's chat channels get even more crowded with spammers? |
| 18:34.10 | DWSR | Additionally, the only thing that currently needs to get nuked from orbit are frat houses and the members thereof. |
| 18:34.14 | Ancu | So what is a go text editor the recognises unix hardline breaks. Aparently zorba cant use notepad like a normal person |
| 18:34.18 | Dagmar | I've not had problems with "cracking" games... Mainly it's just been a matter of careful copying from one machine to the other. |
| 18:34.22 | DWSR | Ancu: Err....Notepad2. |
| 18:34.25 | Shirik | what? |
| 18:34.26 | DWSR | Ancu: Also, Wordpad. |
| 18:34.28 | Shirik | what?! |
| 18:34.28 | Dagmar | If there were DRM still involved I couldn't start the launchers. |
| 18:34.33 | zenzelezz | Notepad++, etc etc |
| 18:34.39 | zenzelezz | just about any non-Notepad |
| 18:34.48 | cbreak | TextWrangler |
| 18:34.48 | Shirik | I can't believe you just said "notepad like a normal person" |
| 18:34.54 | DWSR | ^^ imo |
| 18:35.11 | Dagmar | There's always Crimson Editor, oh and of course gvim for win32 |
| 18:35.14 | Ancu | I havent used ++ in a long time..... |
| 18:35.20 | DWSR | Notepad2 is probably the best. |
| 18:35.20 | Shirik | I also can't believe you're trying to enforce your own operating system choice on someone else |
| 18:35.25 | Ancu | a good coder use note pad. Its univeral |
| 18:35.27 | DWSR | You can just drop it in and replace Notepad. |
| 18:35.28 | Shirik | Uh |
| 18:35.29 | Shirik | no |
| 18:35.32 | Shirik | Notepad is not universal |
| 18:35.33 | Shirik | AND |
| 18:35.34 | DWSR | Ancu: No, good coders use emacs. |
| 18:35.37 | Shirik | Notepad is horrible |
| 18:35.48 | zenzelezz | Shirik: what are you talking about, it's included in all Windowses! |
| 18:35.51 | Dagmar | That's like saying sodomy is universal |
| 18:35.54 | Shirik | DWSR, I have a right mind to kick you |
| 18:36.03 | DWSR | Shirik: I don't use emacs. |
| 18:36.07 | DWSR | I'm not a good coder. |
| 18:36.08 | DWSR | A->B? |
| 18:36.12 | Ancu | Notepad if featurless and universal, what else could a coder want |
| 18:36.27 | nevcairiel | features :P |
| 18:36.31 | zenzelezz | indenting, highlighting, proper search and replace, etc |
| 18:36.33 | DWSR | It's not universal. |
| 18:36.40 | Dagmar | syntax highlighting |
| 18:36.41 | DWSR | What about those people running OSX or Linux? |
| 18:36.43 | Shirik | What the hell do you mean by "universal" |
| 18:37.07 | Shirik | News flash: The majority of developers do NOT use Windows as their primary OS |
| 18:37.09 | cbreak | it's not even a fat binary |
| 18:37.14 | cbreak | even less a universal binary |
| 18:37.16 | Fisker | i kill you Shirik |
| 18:37.33 | Ancu | You can use tab, and if you orginise cod properly there wont be much searching (i never had a problem wiht it) and every OS can use notepad |
| 18:37.33 | DWSR | In soviet rusha, you kills Shirik! |
| 18:37.45 | Shirik | Every OS can use notepad? |
| 18:37.46 | Shirik | Since when |
| 18:37.55 | DWSR | Shirik: Wine, I suppose. |
| 18:37.59 | nevcairiel | every OS has an editor as simple as notepad =P |
| 18:38.16 | Shirik | Except notepad is the ONLY one that enforces that \r\n is the only way to terminate lines |
| 18:38.17 | zenzelezz | no |
| 18:38.40 | zenzelezz | linux doesn't "have an editor", but the distributions include all sorts of silly versions |
| 18:38.55 | DWSR | imo, Ancu is a troll. |
| 18:39.00 | DWSR | And should henceforth be banned. |
| 18:39.04 | Shirik | DWSR: Good coders put emacs on hard mask |
| 18:39.04 | Ancu | since when is there an os that cant? And I am refering to the format. Not notepad its self |
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| 18:39.17 | Shirik | Then stop saying notepad... |
| 18:39.25 | Ancu | I am not a troll |
| 18:39.26 | Shirik | There is no "notepad format" it's ASCII... |
| 18:39.27 | cbreak | since when is being totally clueless the same as being a troll? :( |
| 18:39.28 | zenzelezz | "format"? |
| 18:39.43 | DWSR | cbreak: Since it bothers me. |
| 18:39.44 | Dagmar | It's not ASCII. |
| 18:39.48 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 18:39.57 | Shirik | well the "format" is just a bunch of ASCII characters |
| 18:39.58 | AbsolutRayne | Hey guys, is there a script I could use to find a certain item in my bags / bank? |
| 18:40.00 | Ancu | I just cant understand why somone with access to notepad wouldnt use it? |
| 18:40.03 | cbreak | it's not his fault that he fails to grasp simple concepts even apparent to the feeblest of minds |
| 18:40.04 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: Yes. |
| 18:40.08 | Dagmar | The new notepad appears to have gained the ability to deal with some more formats |
| 18:40.08 | AbsolutRayne | Giveplz |
| 18:40.10 | nevcairiel | notepad on windows even speaks UTF8 and UTF16 :P |
| 18:40.17 | Shirik | oh? |
| 18:40.21 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 18:40.22 | Shirik | Shows you how much I don't use it |
| 18:40.22 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 18:40.26 | nevcairiel | microsoft uses utf16 for their stuff |
| 18:40.27 | Dagmar | It's not 100% reliable, but it mainly does it |
| 18:40.34 | nevcairiel | silly them |
| 18:40.34 | foxlit | It doesn't like your \n lineendings, anyway |
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| 18:40.43 | Shirik | In any case, Ancu, that format is not "universal" by any means |
| 18:40.54 | Shirik | Microsoft does not agree with everyone else on how to terminate lines |
| 18:40.55 | nevcairiel | Yeah i wonder why they never fixed notepad to just allow \n line endings |
| 18:40.56 | foxlit | (Even more awesome: microsoft C compilers write "\n" as "\r\n" to files opened in text mode) |
| 18:41.15 | Shirik | tbh that's a feature imo |
| 18:41.17 | cbreak | they are supposed to |
| 18:41.19 | nevcairiel | their other editors deal with it fine |
| 18:41.20 | Shirik | if you're writing in text mode |
| 18:41.40 | cbreak | the C standard handles \n as "what ever the platform end-of-line encoding is" |
| 18:41.54 | Shirik | does it really? |
| 18:42.00 | cbreak | I think I read it somewhere |
| 18:42.05 | Shirik | Certainly not within the string |
| 18:42.07 | DWSR | *nix uses \n, OSX uses \r, and Windows uses \r\n, right? |
| 18:42.12 | Shirik | maybe when writing to file |
| 18:42.16 | nevcairiel | nah it wont touch your strings |
| 18:42.16 | cbreak | OS X uses \n |
| 18:42.20 | cbreak | old mac os used \r |
| 18:42.22 | Shirik | I don't think apple uses \r anymore |
| 18:42.26 | DWSR | ah. |
| 18:42.28 | nevcairiel | that was long ago |
| 18:42.30 | Shirik | that was, tbh, moronic |
| 18:42.32 | nevcairiel | funny times |
| 18:42.39 | DWSR | tbh. |
| 18:42.48 | DWSR | Everyone should use a new standard. |
| 18:42.53 | DWSR | And call it \l |
| 18:43.03 | DWSR | For line ENDS HERE. |
| 18:43.05 | cbreak | there's a Unicode newline char |
| 18:43.12 | Shirik | there is? |
| 18:43.17 | cbreak | I think so... |
| 18:43.18 | Ancu | Damn windows haters, your worse then mac haters. I thought us mac haters where bad.... |
| 18:43.27 | Ancu | (j/k) |
| 18:43.28 | DWSR | Ancu: I hate everything. |
| 18:43.30 | Shirik | I've been looking for one, I don't think there is |
| 18:43.37 | nevcairiel | we're not windows haters, we're just notepad haters :P |
| 18:43.39 | DWSR | Therefore, I am evil. |
| 18:43.44 | Ancu | Mac hater? I know a few |
| 18:43.46 | Shirik | though my purposes were much more malicious |
| 18:44.03 | Shirik | Ancu: I use Windows as my primary development OS. I love Visual Studio and think it's a godsend. |
| 18:44.06 | AbsolutRayne | Rage. |
| 18:44.09 | zenzelezz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline#Unicode |
| 18:44.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik: trying to exploit batbot again? |
| 18:44.13 | AbsolutRayne | Its looking like it didnt get restored. |
| 18:44.14 | Shirik | That being said, I think you're crazy if you want to use Notepad |
| 18:44.17 | Shirik | nevcairiel: :P |
| 18:44.20 | cbreak | http://unicode.org/reports/tr13/tr13-9.html |
| 18:44.22 | DWSR | Ancu: Get a proper text editor. Notepad2, Notepad++, for example. You can even go so far as to replace the old Notepad binary with the one from either "new" Notepad. |
| 18:44.25 | Ancu | I hate the macs that the school had. I havent had any real experience with a mac thats not bound to crap |
| 18:45.01 | AbsolutRayne | All the Macs my school had were also awful |
| 18:45.10 | foxlit | Meh, it's entirely possible to write addons in notepad. |
| 18:45.19 | DWSR | imo, 1 button mouse was fucking rediculous. |
| 18:45.25 | amro | foxlit: it's entirely possible to dig a ditch with a spoon |
| 18:45.25 | Thunder_Child | :( a pally walked up next to me with the name killkilldie |
| 18:45.31 | foxlit | One has to wonder if that's the best use of your time, but you're not really missing out on that much. |
| 18:45.37 | nevcairiel | its possible to write them with a binary editor, but you wouldnt do it, either way |
| 18:45.41 | DWSR | T_C: You should tell him to bubblehearth. |
| 18:45.44 | Ancu | Yeah, but its reading ones writen with unix hardline breaks that is giving me issues |
| 18:45.57 | Ancu | I have no prob writing in note pad |
| 18:46.04 | nevcairiel | *note-to-self* release all addons with unix line endings |
| 18:46.05 | AbsolutRayne | DWSR: Do you have that script handy? |
| 18:46.13 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: Nope. I can just think of how to do it in my head. |
| 18:46.18 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: It's really not that difficult. |
| 18:46.30 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, thats close to someone else on the server. stunbubblerun |
| 18:46.40 | nevcairiel | Oh wait, i already do. Git stores all in LF internally |
| 18:46.41 | DWSR | T_C: >.< Your server sucks. |
| 18:46.57 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Configurable. Git can also store it as CRLF internall, if you want it to. |
| 18:47.03 | foxlit | lua -e "print(io.read("*a"):gsub('\n', '\r\n'))" < in.lua > out.lua |
| 18:47.04 | DWSR | s/nall/nally/ |
| 18:48.11 | nevcairiel | sure it can, but who wants that |
| 18:48.14 | amro | lack of support for unix newlines is just salt in the wound. notepad's problem is the complete lack of indentation/highlighting support |
| 18:48.15 | foxlit | lua -e "print((io.read('*a'):gsub('\n', '\r\n')))" < in.lua > out.lua in fact. |
| 18:48.30 | DWSR | nevcairiel: .net developers? |
| 18:48.32 | foxlit | amro: Highlighting is overrated, and newlines are a minor pain. |
| 18:48.38 | foxlit | er, indentation. |
| 18:48.53 | industrial | amro: the problem is that its to take notes, not to edit code |
| 18:48.54 | Dagmar | Meh. Wordpad can handle Unix-style line endings. |
| 18:48.56 | cbreak | 2gb file size limit |
| 18:48.59 | cbreak | :) |
| 18:49.16 | Aelo | DWSR: http://static.curseforge.net/content/images/17/885/ToneMatrix.jpg just waiting for approval :p |
| 18:49.19 | amro | foxlit: minor pain? hah |
| 18:49.28 | DWSR | lol, fantastic Aelo. |
| 18:49.34 | amro | maybe all your code is in the global scope, but I tend to nest quite a few levels |
| 18:49.47 | industrial | any decent editor will do, I thought we covered this yesterday |
| 18:49.54 | Shirik | It seems Freenode does not accept UTF-8 line terminators |
| 18:50.07 | kd3 | that's because irc doesn't? |
| 18:50.12 | foxlit | amro: I don't think scope has anything to do with it. |
| 18:50.14 | industrial | Aelo: o_O |
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| 18:50.24 | Shirik | kd3: I know |
| 18:50.30 | Dagmar | Shirik: This is because they accept ASCII and whatever encoding was declared when you connected |
| 18:50.30 | amro | foxlit: you know what I meant |
| 18:50.36 | Dagmar | Beyond that, all bets are off |
| 18:50.36 | amro | foxlit: stop arguing for the sake of arguing |
| 18:50.50 | Shirik | Well most clients use UTF-8 |
| 18:50.52 | industrial | amro: thats what happens when people say 'well notpad is fine' |
| 18:50.56 | industrial | notepad* |
| 18:51.06 | Shirik | But kd3 is right, the standard only specifies \r\n. However, that doesn't mean they won't go further |
| 18:51.13 | Dagmar | Shirik: If by "most" clients you mean mIRC, I'm not sure that's even true |
| 18:51.19 | Shirik | For example, Freenode accepts \n as a line terminator, despite going against the standard |
| 18:51.32 | Dagmar | What standard? |
| 18:51.39 | Shirik | If by "mirc" you mean "everything except mirc" then yes |
| 18:51.41 | nevcairiel | IRC really says you should send a CRLF? |
| 18:51.45 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:51.45 | kd3 | http://irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/chapter2.html#c2_2 |
| 18:51.56 | kd3 | rfc1459 ^ |
| 18:52.04 | Dagmar | kd3: Thank you |
| 18:52.11 | Shirik | well that's not really relevant kd3 |
| 18:52.12 | Dagmar | Every time *I* cite that document people bitch at me |
| 18:52.22 | Dagmar | It's EXZACTLY relevant |
| 18:52.26 | Shirik | No |
| 18:52.27 | Shirik | it's not |
| 18:52.30 | Shirik | What's relevant is 2.3, not 2.2 |
| 18:52.30 | Aelo | industrial: just a little music addon |
| 18:52.33 | Dagmar | It *is*. |
| 18:52.40 | Dagmar | It's the bloody spec that defines IRC |
| 18:52.41 | Shirik | IRC messages are always lines of characters terminated with a CR-LF (Carriage Return - Line Feed) pair, and these messages shall not exceed 512 characters in length, counting all characters including the trailing CR-LF. |
| 18:52.44 | Shirik | Are you reading? |
| 18:52.51 | Shirik | Think for just a second |
| 18:53.02 | Dagmar | Which RFC is that from, Shirik? |
| 18:53.06 | Shirik | Then come back when you're willing to actually listen to someone else for once instead of thinking you are all-knowing |
| 18:53.09 | cbreak | message separator |
| 18:53.10 | Shirik | TWO PARAGRAPHS DOWN |
| 18:53.30 | kd3 | we're not arguing that. I just linked to the rfc |
| 18:53.34 | Shirik | I know kd3 |
| 18:53.36 | Shirik | Dagmar is |
| 18:54.04 | Shirik | anyway nevcairiel, yes, RFC 1459 specifies \r\n |
| 18:54.09 | foxlit | And following tradition, you're arguing different things. |
| 18:54.09 | Shirik | as you can see |
| 18:54.23 | foxlit | He says "Hey, the spec is important"; you say "Hey, you linked the wrong section" |
| 18:54.45 | Dagmar | Well, they've all taken a simple newline for bloody ages, because of the first passage |
| 18:54.45 | Shirik | But Freenode accepts (and I think Shiibot accidentally uses) \n |
| 18:54.53 | nevcairiel | Shirik: even in 2812 still, oh well, thought they may have potentially relaxed that later .. but no dice |
| 18:55.11 | nevcairiel | Typical fail: not reading the spec to the end |
| 18:55.12 | Dagmar | I used to hold channels by telnetting directly to the servers back in the earliy 90's when I was stuck on a VMS machine with no sane client |
| 18:55.52 | Dagmar | But either way, if you want to use something more advanced than ASCII and expect it will work, you have to watch for the server message that tells you what charset it accepts when you connect |
| 18:56.19 | Shirik | Even if it said the charset was SJIS, the messages must still be terminated by CR-LF |
| 18:56.59 | Dagmar | Try it. |
| 18:57.08 | Dagmar | Telnet directly to port 6667 here |
| 18:57.11 | Shirik | Any deviation from that behavior is in violation of the standard |
| 18:58.22 | foxlit | [And standards never get violated :) ] |
| 18:58.45 | Shirik | especially by mirc |
| 18:58.50 | Dagmar | The CR is still simply discarded |
| 18:59.37 | Shirik | no, the server must transmit all of its messages to clients terminated by a CR-LF pair. And any good server will actually adhere to this, even if the received message was terminated by just a \n, because any deviation from this behavior might break standards-compliant clients |
| 18:59.51 | Dagmar | "must" "bust" "just" "fussed" |
| 18:59.54 | Dagmar | Doesn't. Matter. |
| 19:00.04 | amro | oO |
| 19:00.09 | Dagmar | The servers have accepted a simple \n for bloody ages |
| 19:00.19 | Shirik | There is a different from "accept" and "transmit" |
| 19:00.25 | Dagmar | One does not bear upon the other |
| 19:00.36 | Shirik | I did not say it only accepts a CR-LF pair |
| 19:00.40 | Shirik | I said it must transmit a CR-LF pair |
| 19:00.49 | Dagmar | Nothing in the spec says the servers should become furious if CR+LF is not sent |
| 19:00.49 | Ancu | are you guys stil talking about line breaks? |
| 19:00.55 | Dagmar | ...or that they should even care. |
| 19:01.00 | amro | Dagmar: wow |
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| 19:01.07 | Shirik | the spec says the line has not ended if CR-LF has not been received |
| 19:01.14 | Dagmar | It says the client should _send_ them |
| 19:01.19 | amro | I'm going to repaste it |
| 19:01.20 | amro | RC messages are always lines of characters terminated with a CR-LF (Carriage Return - Line Feed) pair, and these messages shall not exceed 512 characters in length, counting all characters including the trailing CR-LF. |
| 19:01.26 | amro | it says that ALL messages are terminated with CRLF |
| 19:01.31 | amro | regardless of origin or destination |
| 19:01.31 | nevcairiel | Its the spec, its perfectly valid for the server to ignore your lines if they are not terminated by CRLF |
| 19:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toXMt1rzdrA |
| 19:01.36 | Dagmar | amro: So? |
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| 19:01.39 | Ancu | yeah, you are, wow. your still talking about line breaks |
| 19:01.45 | amro | Dagmar: so, what's your point? |
| 19:01.52 | Shirik | Ancu: We're actually more accurately talking about the IRC standard now |
| 19:01.53 | kd3 | ancu; this is #wowuidev. we do that here |
| 19:01.59 | Dagmar | Shirik: Which passage says that the server should care? |
| 19:02.08 | amro | Dagmar: the part that defines what a message is |
| 19:02.13 | Shirik | ^ |
| 19:02.16 | Dagmar | amro: Where |
| 19:02.19 | Shirik | omg |
| 19:02.21 | nevcairiel | Dagmar lost his point a while ago, after he insisted how relevent the RFC is, and now IRCDs should not care about it, or something |
| 19:02.23 | Shirik | it's been linked twice now |
| 19:02.27 | nevcairiel | detaches from the discussion |
| 19:02.37 | Dagmar | No, it hasn't. |
| 19:02.41 | amro | follows nevcairiel's lead |
| 19:02.45 | Dagmar | You've pasted something about what the client should send |
| 19:02.52 | amro | no |
| 19:02.55 | Dagmar | It does not in any way say the server is required to only accept CR+LF. |
| 19:02.57 | amro | it defines messages |
| 19:03.04 | Shirik | goes to take a shower with nevcairiel |
| 19:03.04 | Dagmar | There is a difference between these two things |
| 19:03.29 | amro | Dagmar: you should look up "specification" and "compliant" sometime |
| 19:03.38 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: a spec will never say "you shall not accept anything else", it just says how a properly formatted line looks. If you decide to provide a fuzzy implementation that accepts more .. thats up to you. |
| 19:03.39 | amro | and, I'm out. food calls |
| 19:03.48 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, W.T.F. |
| 19:03.51 | Dagmar | nevcariel: Which is what the servers dio |
| 19:03.56 | Dagmar | s/dio/do/; |
| 19:04.08 | nevcairiel | and whats your point again? |
| 19:04.27 | Dagmar | That Shirik's complaining about nothing useful |
| 19:04.41 | Shirik | Dagmar: What a server MUST NOT do is transmit a \n to transmit messages, which I have already stated. ANY deviation from this behavior is in violation of the standard and will break standards-compliant clients. |
| 19:04.51 | nevcairiel | He didnt complain, he just said that its a derivation from the standard |
| 19:04.56 | ScytheBlade1 | what protocol is this? |
| 19:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | IRC? |
| 19:04.59 | Shirik | s/transmit messages/terminate messages/ |
| 19:05.02 | nevcairiel | yea IRC |
| 19:05.10 | ScytheBlade1 | there isn't a single compliant server or client out there |
| 19:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | </conversation> |
| 19:05.20 | Shirik | agree, but that's not really what we're discussing |
| 19:05.42 | Dagmar | So about five or six times I said "what the server accepts" |
| 19:05.56 | Shirik | yes, after I stated that "we're not talking about what the server accepts" |
| 19:05.56 | Dagmar | ...not "what the server sends" |
| 19:06.07 | Shirik | (13:59:54) (@Shirik) There is a different from "accept" and "transmit" |
| 19:06.18 | Shirik | remember that? probably not |
| 19:06.24 | Shirik | finally you got it through your head though, grats |
| 19:06.29 | Shirik | I will go take my shower now |
| 19:06.47 | nevcairiel | joins Shirik |
| 19:06.47 | Dagmar | Ah... fucking short window syndrome again |
| 19:06.58 | Dagmar | That line scrolled while I was furiously paging through the rfc |
| 19:07.32 | Dagmar | I'll over look how asinine it is to "explain" to another adult the difference between two words |
| 19:07.38 | Dagmar | s/over look/overlook/; |
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| 19:10.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: welcome to the internet, asinine is par for the course. :P |
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| 19:18.02 | Shirik | btw nevcairiel, it's interesting that you point out "a spec will never say 'you shall not accept anything else'" |
| 19:18.32 | Shirik | Part of the paper I wrote yesterday discusses IEEE 830 and why they state that all specifications must be written in positive logic (that is "the system shall" and not "the system shall not") |
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| 19:24.10 | Fisker | lol twin valkyr's = ez |
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| 19:25.49 | Shirik | New item added to your cart: |
| 19:25.49 | Shirik | |
| 19:25.49 | Shirik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.49 | Shirik | Your cart is empty |
| 19:25.51 | Shirik | ... |
| 19:25.55 | Shirik | what? |
| 19:27.09 | Shirik | wow, now I really broke it |
| 19:27.20 | Shirik | Member/Student Price: $50.00/$25.00 |
| 19:27.21 | Shirik | Total in your cart:$8.00 |
| 19:27.31 | Thunder_Child | haxxer |
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| 19:31.16 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: does 'the system shall only' count as positive logic? |
| 19:31.25 | Shirik | no |
| 19:31.33 | Shirik | the primary problem with saying something like that is "how do you test 'only'" |
| 19:31.42 | Shirik | It's an untestable requirement, and every requirement must be testable |
| 19:32.07 | Arrowmaster | but if you say 'not' you can still test it |
| 19:32.17 | Shirik | That's not the only reason to say 'not' :) |
| 19:32.28 | Arrowmaster | i can think of good reason to say not |
| 19:32.38 | Shirik | Give me one and I'll rewrite it :) |
| 19:32.46 | Shirik | or tell you it's a bad requirement :P |
| 19:32.55 | Arrowmaster | what kinda specs is this for? |
| 19:33.00 | nevcairiel | anything |
| 19:33.10 | Shirik | software/system specifications |
| 19:33.13 | Shirik | any form |
| 19:33.46 | Arrowmaster | ok what if you want to make sure that only https is used and not regular http for some kinda authentication |
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| 19:34.40 | Shirik | The system shall reject any message received on a port other than (whatever https is... 443?) |
| 19:34.41 | Shirik | Something like that |
| 19:34.58 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 19:34.59 | Shirik | though that's a poor requirement too |
| 19:35.10 | Arrowmaster | so 'the system shall reject' is allowable |
| 19:35.20 | Shirik | it's "allowable" but it may not be the best way to do it |
| 19:36.20 | Shirik | To put things into perspective, IEEE 830-compliant specifications are often products that take months if not years |
| 19:36.23 | Shirik | not 10 seconds :) |
| 19:36.38 | Shirik | I have a good slide here somewhere... |
| 19:37.57 | Shirik | Input, condition, subject, verb (function), output, requirement quantification (performance attribute), [associated constraints, if any] |
| 19:38.01 | Shirik | Example: Upon some stimulus [per some constraint, if any], and while X is in the Y State, the System shall display an output message within some time limit and for some duration, [per some constraint, if any]. |
| 19:38.26 | Shirik | that is not the only way to do it, but that is my professor's "magic formula" for a requirement |
| 19:39.07 | Shirik | The problem wit h the requirement I gave you is that it doesn't have the three absolutely necessary components: Input, Output, and Function |
| 19:39.24 | Shirik | it's hidden in there I guess |
| 19:40.21 | Shirik | Upon receiving a message which is not encrypted through SSL, the system shall reject the message |
| 19:40.25 | Shirik | something closer to that I guess |
| 19:40.44 | Shirik | however what "reject the message" means is not clearly defined |
| 19:40.49 | Shirik | so we would have to specify that :) |
| 19:41.00 | Shirik | But now I'm driving down into way more details than you probably ever wanted |
| 19:41.20 | Ancu | Oh wow! I can read the code now! YAY! |
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| 19:54.07 | Aelo_ | DWSR: finally, http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tonematrix.aspx :P |
| 19:54.09 | DWSR | :) |
| 19:57.36 | Ancu | Whats Tonematrix? |
| 19:58.52 | p3lim | Cairenn|afk: stop spamming me with Castle Age on facebook :p |
| 19:58.56 | Aelo_ | it's like the matrix |
| 19:59.08 | Aelo_ | which pill dyou wanna take? blue or red? ;) |
| 19:59.12 | Dagmar | 'cept without all the hippie drums. |
| 20:01.25 | Fisker | hayhahahaha |
| 20:01.31 | Fisker | you can interrupte twin pact before it's shielded |
| 20:02.07 | Aelo_ | Fisker: how long is there to do it? |
| 20:02.19 | Fisker | basically half a second or so? |
| 20:02.25 | Fisker | if you see the cast bar it's too late :P |
| 20:02.34 | Aelo | less-rabi v2 |
| 20:03.55 | Fisker | except this cast is meant to be uninterruptable until you kill the shield :P |
| 20:04.04 | Aelo | aye :P |
| 20:05.23 | zenzelezz | const_cast it then |
| 20:09.01 | sylvanaar | viral marketing |
| 20:10.18 | sylvanaar | http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/01/how-to-spam-facebook-like-a-pro-an-insiders-confession/ |
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| 20:18.46 | Dagmar | Seems like a perfectly good example of why I don't use Facebook |
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| 20:21.05 | Ginji | Or any other social community site |
| 20:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: more like a good example of why you should strictly control who has access to what on those sites. |
| 20:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 20:22.29 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Well, sort of |
| 20:22.39 | Dagmar | My gf from a few years ago demanded I set up a myspace |
| 20:22.43 | Dagmar | So I did. |
| 20:23.01 | Dagmar | I've got a reasonable collection of video game avatars in there as "pictures" |
| 20:23.11 | Dagmar | Most of the rest of my "info" is just as much a work of fiction |
| 20:23.27 | Ancu | Uhhhhhhgh. What am I doing wrong now. Anyone want to help me out? |
| 20:23.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: well, myspace doesn't count, thats a fucking cesspool. but yes. :) |
| 20:24.22 | krka | Dagmar: sounds like reason enough to not have that one as a girlfriend |
| 20:24.25 | Ancu | I dont use myspace |
| 20:24.39 | Dagmar | I thought about making a facebook entry just to link it to my old High School with one comment. |
| 20:24.44 | Dagmar | "Fuck all you rednecks." |
| 20:24.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i was finally convinced to get a facebook account. |
| 20:25.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont have a lot of personal info there, but regardless, its pretty much impossible for anyone to find me or add me as a friend. |
| 20:25.59 | Ancu | I am useing tjoptions, if anyone knows where it can be found online please tell me, I got it off overachiver |
| 20:26.07 | Ancu | But my check box isnt doing anything |
| 20:26.18 | Ancu | Here is my code for the check box |
| 20:27.12 | Ancu | {type = "checkbox", "variable = filter_zone", text = "Check to keep track of quest only in the current zone" } |
| 20:27.33 | Ancu | heres clips from the instructions that i am referenceing |
| 20:27.38 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=129435135&albumId=619531 |
| 20:28.05 | Ancu | "checkbox" A checkbox. This is the default if type isn't specified. |
| 20:28.18 | Ancu | variable String. The key of the variable this item will manipulate. For example, if the type is "checkbox" |
| 20:28.18 | Ancu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.19 | Ancu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.32 | Ancu | text String. Text of the label displayed alongside the item, if applicable. |
| 20:29.17 | Ancu | Oh, and I typoed when i was un changing things: |
| 20:29.19 | Ancu | { type = "checkbox", variable = "filter_zone", text = "Check to keep track of quest only in the current zone" } |
| 20:29.26 | Ancu | can anyone help? |
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| 20:31.12 | Ancu | no help for me? |
| 20:31.25 | nevcairiel | nop |
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| 20:36.32 | Dagmar | Oh this is HILARIOUS |
| 20:37.14 | Grum | Ancu: no-one here really uses tjoptions i think |
| 20:37.19 | Dagmar | "The new system will now work to match at least one experienced player for the assigned dungeon with less experienced players in the group." |
| 20:38.32 | Dagmar | Way to tweak the noses of the elitist wannabe kiddies |
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| 20:38.48 | Grum | how do you mean Dagmar? |
| 20:39.10 | Grum | depending on basis of what they do it you might end up with 5 noobies or being able to cheat it :P |
| 20:39.13 | Dagmar | I mean they're going to look at it like a guarantee that they'll get paired with scrubs. |
| 20:39.31 | Dagmar | ...which means they'll be much more likely to drop out of the group so I won't have to kick them. |
| 20:39.33 | Dagmar | :) |
| 20:39.45 | Aelo | any idea what the "experienced" bit is based on? |
| 20:39.54 | Aelo | boss kills in that specific heroic (from stats) ? |
| 20:40.00 | Grum | either achievements or gear |
| 20:40.00 | Dagmar | Probably counters kept on the number of times the toon has been through |
| 20:40.23 | Grum | achievements will not work with people who change specs and end up with blue gear |
| 20:40.40 | Grum | gear will not work because you can just team up in your crappy gear and get teamed with 4 good people |
| 20:40.50 | Grum | or they just dont care =D |
| 20:41.00 | Dagmar | I doubt anyone will go to that length |
| 20:41.14 | Grum | think of 'townsgear' |
| 20:41.17 | Dagmar | ...and changing specs won't forcibly change one's gear. |
| 20:41.20 | Grum | that might be enough to 'fix' it |
| 20:41.28 | Dagmar | ...but the system does appear to count every time you kill a boss |
| 20:42.21 | Ancu | so, why is my addon not working? |
| 20:42.45 | Aelo | gently pats Ancu. |
| 20:42.47 | Grum | because you broke it |
| 20:42.48 | Fisker | makes out with Grum |
| 20:43.25 | Ancu | Sigh, I havent fixed it yet |
| 20:43.29 | Ancu | how can i break it |
| 20:45.27 | Ancu | YAY I broke Quest Helper again |
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| 20:48.07 | zenzelezz | what are you actually trying to do? |
| 20:49.10 | Ancu | Create a panel in the interface addons for QH |
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| 20:49.40 | zenzelezz | that's a little tricky for a first project |
| 20:50.42 | Ancu | It shouldnt be with this library |
| 20:50.47 | Ancu | it should be easy |
| 20:50.53 | Grum | no-one uses it |
| 20:50.59 | Grum | why not just use AceGUI? |
| 20:51.14 | Ancu | zorba doesnt want ace |
| 20:51.23 | Grum | because? |
| 20:51.36 | Ancu | I dont know, he just dosent |
| 20:51.48 | nevcairiel | If its really your first thing you do ever, you're really starting with the wrong thing |
| 20:51.54 | Grum | aye |
| 20:51.59 | Grum | acegui is sortof .. proven and simple |
| 20:52.10 | Grum | especially if you just feed it option-tables |
| 20:52.16 | foxlit | acegui is sort of an elephant. |
| 20:52.26 | foxlit | </random> |
| 20:52.31 | nevcairiel | Get a feeling for WoW Lua, once you have that, try to work with complex things like QH or UI libraries |
| 20:53.01 | NightHawkTheSane | acegui is sort of your mom. |
| 20:53.07 | Ancu | Well what do you guys recomend I do for my first addon? |
| 20:53.41 | nevcairiel | I dunno, something small and useful, not trying to plug into something evil like QH |
| 20:53.51 | Aelo | somethign with events, or slash commands |
| 20:53.55 | foxlit | make me a sandwich. |
| 20:54.00 | Aelo | that too |
| 20:54.14 | Ancu | I already did the sandwich thing |
| 20:54.19 | Ancu | now we are out of bread |
| 20:54.28 | nevcairiel | I don't remember what i started with, tbh :P |
| 20:54.32 | foxlit | Make the vendor interface not suck. |
| 20:54.38 | nevcairiel | I think i build some fubar plugins back in the day |
| 20:54.54 | Aelo | foxlit: played torchlight? |
| 20:55.06 | foxlit | Aelo: yes. |
| 20:55.07 | krka | Ancu: make a navigation mesh addon so i dont have to do it |
| 20:55.15 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: GnomishAuctionShrinker, done :P |
| 20:55.17 | Aelo | pretty decent vendor interface in that :P |
| 20:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | er.... |
| 20:55.23 | Aelo | shame we have no pet to sell stuff though lol |
| 20:55.23 | Ancu | navigation mesh? |
| 20:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | GnomishVendorShrinker, that is. |
| 20:55.31 | NightHawkTheSane | or whatever tekkub called it. |
| 20:55.54 | krka | a navigation mesh is sort of a set of polygons that denote walkable areas |
| 20:55.59 | foxlit | Tek posts no screenshots. |
| 20:56.07 | krka | which is used for finding optimal routes from A to B |
| 20:56.53 | Ancu | that sounds far to tidious and usless for me |
| 20:57.05 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: does it do... |
| 20:57.12 | Ancu | I do that already in my head |
| 20:58.01 | Ancu | brb |
| 20:58.14 | foxlit | Displaying proper currencies at badge vendors? |
| 20:58.26 | nevcairiel | proper currencies? |
| 20:58.31 | foxlit | Re-order things so that stuff I want to buy comes first? |
| 20:58.46 | foxlit | nevcairiel: There's no reason to tell me how much gold I have when everything costs Triumph emblems |
| 20:58.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:58.59 | nevcairiel | thats what you mean |
| 20:59.29 | foxlit | A much more useful thing to do would be to show me how many triumph emblems I have. :) |
| 21:00.06 | krka | if you make a popular addon that does that, i suspect blizzard will include it in the default ui shortly |
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| 21:01.38 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81wFZavdhPU |
| 21:02.01 | foxlit | Stuff like making reagents actually use come first in the reagent vendor UIs. |
| 21:02.07 | foxlit | ^I |
| 21:02.45 | DWSR | Guys. |
| 21:02.52 | DWSR | Is is possible to make an AFK bot using ONLY macros and addons? |
| 21:03.10 | Dagmar | What do you mean by "AFK bot"? |
| 21:03.18 | DWSR | something to AFK farm a BG. |
| 21:03.18 | nevcairiel | anti-afk probably |
| 21:03.32 | Dagmar | I hear licking a broken light bulb can do it |
| 21:04.07 | foxlit | There used to be problems. I'm not sure whether they've fixed all of them. |
| 21:04.20 | Dagmar | ANything that avoids the AFK trigger is pretty much going to require a ToS violation |
| 21:04.48 | foxlit | It's not going to require a ToS violation. |
| 21:04.53 | foxlit | It *becomes* a ToS violation. |
| 21:05.20 | DWSR | well, my guildie is claiming he AFK farms BGs using 2 addons available on Curse and 3 macros. |
| 21:05.29 | Dagmar | Good luck defeating the keyboard and mouse monitor without a ToS violation |
| 21:05.47 | Dagmar | So yes, as far as I know it will _require_ a ToS violation |
| 21:06.10 | Dagmar | Drinking bird ornaments are hard to detect, but they're still a violation |
| 21:07.36 | Aelo | lol xD |
| 21:09.46 | Lopeppeppy | Better to hire a penguin, I hear they are all the rage in PvP right now. |
| 21:17.58 | Kraps | any of you got MW2 on the pc? |
| 21:19.27 | zenzelezz | I do |
| 21:19.47 | Kraps | how do you like it? |
| 21:20.20 | zenzelezz | pretty fun. Haven't tried the multiplayer yet |
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| 21:30.26 | mikma | 1,5 days until second apocalypse |
| 21:30.55 | zenzelezz | I must have missed the first one :( |
| 21:31.01 | DWSR | ^^] |
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| 21:33.58 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/cat_parrot.jpg |
| 21:34.49 | DWSR | lol |
| 21:35.29 | Lopeppeppy | What happens on the second apocolypse? |
| 21:36.08 | mikma | lopeppeppy: we get to shoot more zombies in the face |
| 21:36.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm? |
| 21:36.42 | Dagmar | Not a parrot... It's a cockatiel. |
| 21:36.50 | Dagmar | a.k.a budgerigar |
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| 21:37.07 | mikma | lopeppeppy: http://www.l4d.com |
| 21:37.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I see. |
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| 21:39.13 | mikma | umm, http://kuvaton.com/bshit/yann-travaille-tattoo-cartoon.jpg |
| 21:40.15 | dylanmcd | Is there a way to place an action in a bar by id, or only by dragging? |
| 21:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, if I were going to pay for a tattoo it would be a *good* one. |
| 21:42.22 | Dagmar | There's a bit of a problem there. |
| 21:42.34 | Dagmar | It's someone else's art which looks like a crappy scribble. |
| 21:42.38 | Fisker | yay |
| 21:42.40 | Fisker | anub'arak tiems |
| 21:42.47 | Dagmar | So it's um, _supposed_ to look like a crappy scribble. |
| 21:43.08 | Dagmar | This is not so easy to do with a tattoo gun |
| 21:43.30 | Seerah | well... the fourth one (skull) just looks like they drew on themselves with permanent marker in an attempt to be "cool" |
| 21:43.52 | bleeter | Dagmar: cockatiel != budgie (Calyptorhynchinae != Psittacidae) |
| 21:44.05 | Lopeppeppy | crappy scribble art is not ever going to be cool enough for me to get tattooed onto my body. |
| 21:44.07 | bleeter | the pic is a budgie, fwiw |
| 21:44.24 | Dagmar | bleeter: Well it's a good thing I already corrected myself |
| 21:45.22 | bleeter | I didn't a correction, I saw 'cockatiel. also known as budgie' |
| 21:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | My girlfriend does good work, I'd get her to do a nice 3 tailed kitsune. http://www.spiritgallerytattoo.com/tattoos/Blaze_Schwaller/tattoos_41412.html is one something of hers. |
| 21:45.31 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 21:45.52 | Dagmar | bleeter: I've long given up anyone ever knowing the difference, thanks to pet stores around here |
| 21:46.25 | Dagmar | I've never seen "cockatiel" on a parrot's cage, or "parakeet" on a cockatiel's cage, but they might as well be writing "SPARROW" on the front where they keep the budgies around here |
| 21:47.08 | bleeter | Dagmar: most, if not all, aussies know the difference ;) |
| 21:47.17 | Dagmar | Sure, you've got 'em runnign around wild there |
| 21:47.29 | bleeter | not so much running |
| 21:47.30 | bleeter | more |
| 21:47.32 | bleeter | flying |
| 21:47.37 | Fisker | baww |
| 21:47.40 | Fisker | death's choice dropped |
| 21:47.43 | Fisker | and i didn't get it ;_; |
| 21:47.49 | bleeter | lol qq moar nub |
| 21:47.57 | Dagmar | About the only interesting thing we have here are pine weasels, which WOULD be in the woods of TN if the stupid environmentalists weren't so meddlesome |
| 21:48.10 | Fisker | qq bleeter |
| 21:48.10 | Fisker | QQ |
| 21:48.17 | Dagmar | You shoudl be allowed to seed any wildlife area with as many cute animals as you like |
| 21:48.29 | Dagmar | jerboas and ferrets |
| 21:48.50 | Dagmar | Red pandas are another one I'd like to see more of |
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| 21:53.44 | Dagmar | http://nashville.craigslist.org/w4m/1466298563.html |
| 21:53.53 | Dagmar | Who wants to be she's Horde? |
| 21:54.20 | Dagmar | ...or a guy. |
| 21:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | Well, s/he found what s/he was seeking, so it's over with anyway. Wish I were that brave! |
| 21:56.01 | Dagmar | Oh I didnt' even look at it today |
| 21:56.09 | Dagmar | She *was* a filthy horde slut then it seems |
| 21:56.15 | Dagmar | I just won ten bucks. lol |
| 21:56.24 | Lopeppeppy | There's an edit at the top that says position is filled. |
| 21:57.00 | krka | Dagmar: do you mean "Who wants to be _her_ Horde?" :P |
| 21:57.03 | Dagmar | Yeah I see that now |
| 21:57.06 | bleeter | Dagmar: on the subject of seeing cute animals, have you seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNEeq5qGh8I |
| 21:58.03 | Dagmar | bleeter: Not to upset you but I don't think those count as "cute" |
| 21:58.15 | Dagmar | ...although the drop bear counts I guess. |
| 21:58.18 | krka | wait, 39 year old woman looking for 21 male? |
| 21:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | She said "cougar" |
| 21:58.45 | bleeter | so she's a furry? |
| 21:58.52 | Dagmar | Gawd I should hope not |
| 21:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | No, a cougar is an older woman who likes younger men. |
| 22:00.01 | Dagmar | I still think there's easier ways to get a decent tank. |
| 22:00.29 | industrial | Lopeppeppy: so all men are tigers? |
| 22:00.33 | industrial | ZING |
| 22:00.42 | bleeter | rawr |
| 22:00.48 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 22:00.49 | Dagmar | I b'leeve the term you're lookin' for is "chicken hawk" |
| 22:00.51 | harl | rawr! |
| 22:01.03 | industrial | huggles Gryphon |
| 22:01.07 | Gryphon | huggles industrial |
| 22:01.30 | Lopeppeppy | I wish men were tigers, I seem to find stray mangy kittens around here. |
| 22:02.51 | industrial | haha |
| 22:03.07 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: does it count if I have three tiger posters and two tiger teddy bears? |
| 22:03.20 | DWSR | Can you use Clique to rebind the context menu from a unit frame? |
| 22:03.58 | DWSR | nvm |
| 22:05.18 | Seerah | DWSR: I'm assuming you saw already, but yes |
| 22:06.03 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, only if they roar louder than I do. |
| 22:06.04 | DWSR | Seerah: Yeah, it's an option .>.< |
| 22:06.07 | DWSR | dh |
| 22:06.09 | DWSR | duh* |
| 22:06.18 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: they're quiet silent :( |
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| 22:06.33 | industrial | starts on the book Elfenwinter by Bernard Hennen; 600 more pages of epic battle :D/ He writes very .. brutal. |
| 22:06.51 | zenzelezz | did you just tilt your head 90 degrees? |
| 22:08.00 | industrial | yes |
| 22:08.52 | Ginji | 90 degrees?! |
| 22:08.58 | industrial | dun dun DUN |
| 22:08.58 | Ginji | That would snap my neck |
| 22:09.27 | industrial | weird neck you have, I can turn my head 90 degrees just fine |
| 22:10.15 | Dagmar | pics or shesn |
| 22:10.21 | Dagmar | s/shesn/shens/; |
| 22:10.31 | Ginji | I don't think my neck qualifies as weird |
| 22:10.39 | Ginji | since 90 degrees is a lot |
| 22:12.40 | Kraps | "Diablo III = 21st century Duke Nukem. Geez, I'm bitter!!!" |
| 22:13.00 | kd3 | are you thinking 'yaw' rotation or 'roll' rotation? |
| 22:13.21 | Dagmar | Slew would be more amusing |
| 22:15.50 | industrial | Dagmar: very well |
| 22:15.54 | industrial | because I am so awesome |
| 22:16.01 | industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/09f33b31388cf3afac55c5cb73cd4b9c.jpg |
| 22:16.05 | industrial | enjoy. |
| 22:16.19 | kd3 | lmao |
| 22:16.22 | Ginji | That is not 90 degrees! |
| 22:16.40 | industrial | degree schmegree |
| 22:16.56 | industrial | thats a \:D/ |
| 22:17.02 | Shirik | industrial you are strange :P |
| 22:17.14 | industrial | bored, above all |
| 22:17.45 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:17.55 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:18.21 | batrick | u r |
| 22:18.33 | industrial | no u |
| 22:18.38 | batrick | no u! |
| 22:18.41 | Shirik | no u! |
| 22:18.43 | industrial | no u! |
| 22:18.55 | batrick | poor batbot can't continue this for me |
| 22:19.12 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 22:19.13 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 22:19.13 | purl | :), Lopeppeppy |
| 22:19.19 | batrick | what's ur new project for this week |
| 22:19.47 | Shirik | I'm going to design a completely new computer architecture |
| 22:19.54 | Shirik | screw von neuman |
| 22:20.02 | batrick | gl |
| 22:20.12 | Shirik | wtf I don't have a new project every week >< |
| 22:20.30 | batrick | i never said you did |
| 22:20.37 | batrick | i just asked what the new one was for _this_ week |
| 22:21.24 | Shirik | how do you know I have a new project this week |
| 22:21.47 | batrick | because I know |
| 22:22.01 | Shirik | negative |
| 22:22.26 | batrick | l8 pal |
| 22:22.32 | Shirik | nou |
| 22:38.09 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, you want to add more stuff to your resume dont you... |
| 22:38.18 | Shirik | not really |
| 22:38.22 | Shirik | my resume is already packed |
| 22:38.25 | Thunder_Child | ...bah |
| 22:38.25 | Shirik | I can't fit another line |
| 22:38.33 | Shirik | why? |
| 22:38.47 | Thunder_Child | i want to work with someone on making an iphone app |
| 22:38.54 | Shirik | batrick would kill me |
| 22:39.01 | Shirik | besides I hate iphones |
| 22:39.03 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: what kind of app? |
| 22:39.11 | Thunder_Child | batrick > you? |
| 22:39.11 | Shirik | and I don't know obj-c :) |
| 22:39.14 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, just an info app |
| 22:39.19 | Shirik | no, batrick just thinks I take on way too many projects |
| 22:39.29 | cbreak | Thunder_Child: slapping people over the internet? |
| 22:39.53 | zenzelezz | I make iPhone apps at work |
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| 22:40.11 | cbreak | I thought about making an iPhone app |
| 22:40.14 | cbreak | but I hate phones |
| 22:40.25 | cbreak | and iPhones are unaffordably expensive |
| 22:40.33 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, then do you really want to do one for fun? |
| 22:40.39 | Thunder_Child | cbreak, i have a touch actually |
| 22:41.00 | cbreak | hmm. If you don't use the GPS or the radio that works too I guess |
| 22:42.10 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: I'd need more info. I can only publish on my company's account, so I can't say whether they'd be interested in having such an app in our name |
| 22:43.50 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, an app of generally useful info that does not require a net connection to use. eg. CPR is generaly useful whereas how to do an appendectomy isnt |
| 22:44.25 | zenzelezz | I see what you mean |
| 22:44.52 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, from how to determine your location on earth via the angle of the sun, to the correct mixture to make concrete, to how to tell when a particular fruit is ripe |
| 22:44.53 | cbreak | Wikipedia offline? |
| 22:44.57 | Thunder_Child | basicly |
| 22:45.06 | Thunder_Child | but correct |
| 22:45.20 | cbreak | Thunder_Child: if someone has an iPhone, determining the location on earth is easier without sun |
| 22:45.28 | Thunder_Child | cbreak, again i have a touch |
| 22:45.32 | Thunder_Child | and this is mostly for me |
| 22:45.34 | cbreak | right... :) |
| 22:45.38 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/user/Brich45#p/a/u/0/cudCajMNRM0 <-wut |
| 22:45.40 | Thunder_Child | though i have no problem selling it |
| 22:46.12 | cbreak | call it: "Hitchhikers Guide to Earth". |
| 22:46.33 | Thunder_Child | good luck getting a towel to DL with it |
| 22:46.51 | cbreak | I am sure there's already an app... hmm... probably not :( |
| 22:50.19 | Ginji | Thunder_Child: who's supplying the data? |
| 22:50.37 | Ginji | Cause the rest is easy |
| 22:50.39 | Thunder_Child | Ginji, i would |
| 22:50.50 | Ginji | Then how can it be correct? |
| 22:51.01 | batrick | shirik should make android apps |
| 22:51.06 | Shirik | ... |
| 22:51.11 | Shirik | you trying to distract me further? |
| 22:51.16 | Shirik | I SHOULD make an IRC client for Storm |
| 22:51.19 | Thunder_Child | Ginji, i mean i would aquire it from the web |
| 22:51.32 | batrick | eww Storm |
| 22:51.38 | Lopeppeppy | You *should* make me some chocolate chip cookies! |
| 22:51.40 | Ginji | What the hell is storm? |
| 22:51.51 | Fisker | die die die |
| 22:51.52 | batrick | shitty verizon blackberry |
| 22:51.59 | Ginji | Oh |
| 22:52.05 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, what about white chocolate chip cookies? |
| 22:52.14 | Shirik | minus the shitty part |
| 22:52.17 | Shirik | because it's awesome |
| 22:52.21 | batrick | ... |
| 22:52.29 | batrick | ya we all love hamstrung phones |
| 22:52.32 | Shirik | You obviously have not seen BB OS 5.0 |
| 22:52.44 | Ginji | White chocolate isn't chocolate! |
| 22:52.51 | batrick | droid >> storm |
| 22:52.57 | Ginji | But it's tasty as hell though |
| 22:52.57 | batrick | i have wifi sup! |
| 22:53.15 | Shirik | why do I need wifi |
| 22:53.19 | Shirik | I have a laptop |
| 22:54.24 | batrick | imagine a world... where your phone will use the internetz to receive calls |
| 22:54.47 | A-KO | awesome |
| 22:54.48 | Shirik | imagine a world... where your internet will use a phone to transmit data |
| 22:54.49 | Iriel | I've been in that world |
| 22:54.53 | Shirik | oh wait, I'm already in that world |
| 22:54.54 | A-KO | my IP is on DNSBLs/RBLs |
| 22:54.55 | Iriel | My older blackberry would do that |
| 22:54.57 | A-KO | fucking fantastic |
| 22:55.01 | Lopeppeppy | TC, white chocolate is not chocolate. Try again. |
| 22:55.07 | Ginji | Imagine a world where you won't get screwed by your carrier |
| 22:55.16 | Shirik | Verizon doesn't screw me |
| 22:55.22 | Iriel | Which was great because my house does't have the greatest cellc overage, but my wifi is just fine |
| 22:55.29 | batrick | Verizon hasn't screwed me yet |
| 22:55.33 | batrick | except on tethering |
| 22:55.38 | batrick | i just need to do that myself |
| 22:55.52 | Ginji | That distinction in what you send is rediculous, data is data |
| 22:56.02 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, ok, so you only go for fail cookies, got it |
| 22:56.11 | Ginji | The fact that I'm paying for something I might not use instead of what I am using is rediculous |
| 22:56.32 | Ginji | referring to the monthly cost of minutes/texts |
| 22:56.47 | Lopeppeppy | Dark chocolate pumpkin are the next batch I'm making, TC. :) |
| 22:57.03 | Ginji | Bah, dark chocolate |
| 22:57.11 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, the second half sounds good |
| 22:57.18 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 22:57.21 | industrial | .. the first half. |
| 23:05.04 | industrial | Looking for a decent free usenet client for windows, does it exist? |
| 23:07.25 | Dagmar | FreeAgent might still be around. |
| 23:07.28 | Dagmar | Barring that, use Google |
| 23:08.19 | Pneumatus | for binaries i've always used newsleecher, but its not free |
| 23:10.27 | industrial | Dagmar: asking the experience usually gives better result; eg you ask me what text editor? I say vim. ;p |
| 23:10.34 | industrial | s/ce/ced/ |
| 23:15.13 | Dagmar | industrial: Since when did vim get Usenet support |
| 23:15.32 | Dagmar | Google _Groups_ is basically a usenet client |
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| 23:23.11 | Cairenn|afk | p3lim: block the messages :p |
| 23:24.13 | p3lim | meeh |
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| 23:24.27 | p3lim | 1/5 of the EU servers just died |
| 23:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | That doesn't sound fun. |
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| 23:26.02 | p3lim | bad thing was that I had Dark Herring in my lootwindow as I disconnected |
| 23:26.50 | p3lim | As in Dark Herring, one of the most rare fishes in the game |
| 23:27.57 | Ginji | I have two |
| 23:28.12 | Ginji | Granted, I didn't fish up either of them |
| 23:28.15 | p3lim | Bought or fished? |
| 23:28.18 | p3lim | Exactly |
| 23:28.20 | Ginji | Given |
| 23:28.27 | zenzelezz | grumbles at the Broodmother |
| 23:28.32 | zenzelezz | this fight is going to cause me grief |
| 23:28.37 | Ginji | But they have no glow!!! |
| 23:28.47 | p3lim | ~0.03% dropchance of schools found in howling fjord |
| 23:28.53 | p3lim | Know |
| 23:28.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Ericpeeg (i=Ericpeeg@69.5.224.180) |
| 23:28.58 | Ginji | I enchanted them with demonslaying, nothing! |
| 23:29.02 | Ginji | I made a ticket, nothing! |
| 23:31.07 | Legorol | heh, I can use another DK's DeathGate that is in my party, apparently |
| 23:31.08 | Legorol | cool |
| 23:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
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| 23:32.59 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO^ (i=as@c-69-143-90-155.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:33.33 | Adys | man |
| 23:33.35 | Adys | vlc is awesome |
| 23:33.48 | Adys | watching a 1hr avi while theres still 100mb left to download |
| 23:33.51 | Adys | no interurption |
| 23:33.57 | Adys | s/rur/rru/ |
| 23:34.21 | Lopeppeppy | VLC is indeed awesome. |
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| 23:35.18 | p3lim | i like zoomplayer |
| 23:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | Zoom zoom zoom! |
| 23:36.05 | p3lim | vlc gave me alot of issues |
| 23:36.17 | p3lim | especially with mkv files |
| 23:36.46 | Dagmar | Probably they were poorly encoded to begin with |
| 23:37.02 | p3lim | like.. any.. mkv files |
| 23:37.08 | p3lim | all worked good with zoomplayer tho |
| 23:37.09 | Dagmar | yep |
| 23:37.19 | p3lim | Lopeppeppy: no dont say "zoom zoom zoom" |
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| 23:37.21 | cbreak | mplayer. |
| 23:37.30 | p3lim | mplayer is good too |
| 23:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | zoom zoom zoom! |
| 23:38.38 | Lopeppeppy | said it! |
| 23:38.46 | p3lim | damnit |
| 23:38.53 | industrial | :o I didnt know google did activesync contacts and calendar sync! *sets it up* |
| 23:39.20 | p3lim | google contacts synched with my iphone contacts = win |
| 23:39.32 | industrial | huggles HSDPA, laptop internet anywhere for 10e/month :D/ |
| 23:41.30 | industrial | oh damnit, I think it only did my personal calendar |
| 23:42.52 | industrial | (which is all the mostly unimportant stuff) |
| 23:43.07 | industrial | (because, you know, I'm a slave of life!) |
| 23:45.35 | Lopeppeppy | I know there's an iphone thingie that interfaces well with google calendar, I've seen it in action... |
| 23:45.49 | zenzelezz | "An [...] is so hard though that he would grab the blade mid swing in the palm of his bare hand, snap the sword in half, chew it and spit the metal shards back in his opponents face." |
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| 23:49.53 | TC-Away | whats the / command to exit a vehicle? |
| 23:50.05 | TC-Away | nvm |
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| 23:50.55 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.59 | Shirik | One of the many reasons C++ is better than C |
| 23:52.02 | Shirik | error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'void *' to 'const char *' |
| 23:52.03 | Shirik | 1> Conversion from 'void*' to pointer to non-'void' requires an explicit cast |
| 23:52.12 | Shirik | Caught a huge bug that would have been a pita to fix |
| 23:52.15 | Ginji | zenzelezz: chuck norris |
| 23:54.29 | zenzelezz | actually no, a specialisation in DA:O |
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| 23:54.41 | Thunder_Child | fail then? |
| 23:54.48 | Thunder_Child | since thats what DA:O is |
| 23:54.54 | zenzelezz | I like it |
| 23:55.48 | Thunder_Child | i think it would be great w/o the part concept |
| 23:55.51 | Thunder_Child | party* |
| 23:57.49 | Thunder_Child | thanks Dagmar |
