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| 00:00.41 | Dashkal | ahh, pretty standard stuff then |
| 00:01.59 | sylvanaar | wow offeres no guarantees other than it will probably break on patch day |
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| 00:06.14 | sylvanaar | if you have to use a standard chat channel - the first problem will be how to add metadata to the existing chat messages |
| 00:06.29 | sylvanaar | the most reliable way is ugly |
| 00:07.21 | Jerub | that's interesting |
| 00:07.35 | sylvanaar | ie "some chat text <id:123>' |
| 00:07.37 | Jerub | I don't understand how the first sentence of the second paragraph follows from the first paragraph.. |
| 00:07.49 | Antiarc | I'd played with unprintable characters in the past, but that's more or less unreliable |
| 00:07.59 | cbreak | sylvanaar: send a second message with meta data |
| 00:08.08 | sylvanaar | cbreak right |
| 00:08.17 | Jerub | and it's the same scumbags who sued over bnetd :( |
| 00:08.18 | sylvanaar | but you have to associate them |
| 00:08.26 | Antiarc | Problem is that clients that aren't filtering it with an addon see both |
| 00:08.35 | Antiarc | Unless it's over an addon comm channel, in which case it's not tricky at all |
| 00:08.56 | cbreak | sylvanaar: "this message refers to the last message I sent" |
| 00:09.14 | cbreak | or "this message refers to the message with hash 0x1234" |
| 00:09.53 | Antiarc | The problem is that unless WoW ensures message order, "the last message I sent" is meaningless |
| 00:10.09 | Antiarc | Anectodally I'd say WoW enforces message order, but I haven't verified it. |
| 00:10.12 | sylvanaar | just use 2 channels, you will have to jump through hoops otherwise |
| 00:10.17 | cbreak | I've never seen the order of my own messages to change |
| 00:10.28 | cbreak | of course, the relative ordering of messages from different users is undefined |
| 00:11.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd also have to consider moderation |
| 00:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Face it, addons are more prone to abuse than stock game stuff |
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| 00:11.44 | cbreak | I haven't seen any addon as abbused |
| 00:11.46 | cbreak | as /2 |
| 00:11.58 | Jerub | cbreak: touche. |
| 00:12.19 | Antiarc | The man has a point. |
| 00:12.24 | Antiarc | Also, yay for draenei rogues |
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| 00:15.45 | Lunessa | yay for +hit racial and Sinister Strike? |
| 00:16.04 | sylvanaar | and cool dance with clapping |
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| 00:16.23 | Antiarc | http://i36.tinypic.com/5yrguc.jpg |
| 00:16.27 | Antiarc | Draenei rogues are the best rogues. |
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| 00:32.26 | Trela | Antiarc: Silly character select glitch. :P |
| 00:32.41 | Antiarc | Indeed :D |
| 00:33.10 | Trela | is a horde draenei shaman right now. |
| 00:33.44 | Jerub | tauren drood ftw. |
| 00:33.59 | Jerub | if only the barber could actually change their hair, instead of everything else. |
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| 00:37.22 | Trela | I believe Jerub missed the point. |
| 00:37.29 | NightHawkTheSane | http://notalwaysright.com/got-an-urgin-for-some-urchin/2936 |
| 00:40.34 | kd3 | ok... bad, but still hilarious |
| 00:40.42 | kd3 | "Five whitetail deer, four black bears, two gray wolves, one wile coyote and a turkey vulture electrocuted by dangling power line. Fa la la la la, la la la laaaa [Scary]" |
| 00:40.57 | Lopeppeppy | That's a redneck christmas feast right there. |
| 00:43.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: it apparently happened in seattle. that makes me cry a little |
| 00:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, you were talking to kd3 |
| 00:43.30 | NightHawkTheSane | goes back to being out of it |
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| 00:44.33 | Arrowmaster | i finally finished rewatching all 10 seasons of SG1 |
| 00:44.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sorry |
| 00:44.54 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i'm sorry about season 8 and 10.. |
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| 00:45.00 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 00:45.07 | Arrowmaster | the rest made up for them |
| 00:45.12 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 00:45.22 | Arrowmaster | and 8 and 10 had a few jewels in them |
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| 00:49.19 | Arrowmaster | hmm still have to wait until the 17th for farscape dvds |
| 00:50.46 | Sarkp | where in dal is the glyph vendor? |
| 00:50.56 | kd3 | inscription trainers |
| 00:50.59 | kd3 | where else would they be? |
| 00:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ask a guard? |
| 00:52.16 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 00:52.19 | Sarkp | i mean you can buy the glyphs? |
| 00:52.21 | kd3 | and they've done sunwell radiance again |
| 00:52.24 | kd3 | if you're on the ptr, yes |
| 00:52.29 | kd3 | if not, go to your nearest AH |
| 00:52.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: oh? |
| 00:52.56 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677352541&sid=1 |
| 00:53.39 | NightHawkTheSane | :\ |
| 00:53.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I understand entirely why they're doing it, and don't disagree. but its still really meh that they are |
| 00:54.13 | kd3 | hopefully the cata changes will mean they won't have to resort to it again |
| 00:54.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hopefully |
| 00:54.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ALthough based on some previous comments, i think what happened this time was item levels went higher than they originally intended (hard modes, etc) |
| 00:54.52 | kd3 | "Our original estimations for tank avoidance would have worked fine had we not decided to add extra tiers of gear to reward heroic boss kills halfway through the expansion. " |
| 00:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 00:55.48 | Adys | ffs |
| 00:55.57 | Adys | my lvl 5 mule is at 18/20 masks and Im still at 17/20 |
| 00:56.00 | kd3 | oh wow. another bomb |
| 00:56.07 | Adys | it started out at 11/20, I was at 16/20 |
| 00:56.10 | Adys | whats the point of this event >< |
| 00:56.13 | kd3 | "Yes. We would probably just let you see the numbers directly. I consider it a design flaw that players have to experiment to determine thinks like hit and expertise caps." |
| 00:56.15 | Dagmar | I just finished printing mine. :) |
| 00:57.41 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: whats that in respect to? chill of the thrown still? |
| 00:57.56 | kd3 | "Also, if you're going to give mobs expertise, can you please make a spell or some kind of method to determine the level of expertise without us having to do parses?" |
| 00:58.15 | kd3 | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/26/20677632379-icewell-radiance-is-in.html |
| 00:58.19 | kd3 | the party thread ^ |
| 00:58.46 | NightHawkTheSane | aah |
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| 01:04.35 | Hirsute | That thread has a surprisingly high amount of actual thought mixed in with the abundant amounts of wow-forum QQ |
| 01:09.16 | Lopeppeppy | no way. |
| 01:10.03 | Hirsute | Oh, there's still abundant mindless QQ there, I was just surprised at the more-than-average amount of somewhat thought-out and coherent posts, as well. |
| 01:11.31 | Hirsute | Of course, I read that shortly after reading a thread in the UI&M forum that was basically one person asking how to make a mashing-macro for petattack/petfollow, then repeatedly bumping it and calling people mean and refusing to believe them when they told him to stop bumping it and what he was asking wasn't possible without an addon. |
| 01:11.48 | Hirsute | So I may just be jaded by the higher-than-normal stupidity-quotient of that thread. |
| 01:12.12 | Sarkp | fun: the pallly "tank" just went without setting up his premade, ret gear no gems |
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| 01:12.52 | Hirsute | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:37.23 | Cruciformer | what is the name of that web comic with teh guy inteh lab coat and the chalk-board |
| 01:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | surviving the world |
| 01:38.01 | Adys | http://quickarmory.com/heirloom.php |
| 01:38.06 | Cruciformer | thanks Lopeppeppy :) |
| 01:38.10 | Adys | could someone with safari test the speed of the slider? |
| 01:38.15 | Adys | in chrome its god slow |
| 01:38.57 | durcyn | it's fine in safari 4 on my snow leopard mac |
| 01:39.04 | Adys | thanks |
| 01:39.06 | durcyn | chrome on the same mac is noticeably slower, yeah |
| 01:44.07 | Adys | durcyn: filed as http://crbug.com/26286 |
| 01:45.58 | durcyn | hmm, actually looks decent in the latest chromium build though |
| 01:46.03 | durcyn | are you using 4.0? |
| 01:46.19 | ccox | slider is reasonable in Safari 4, 10.5.8 |
| 01:46.53 | sylvanaar | Why are there so many CMS's |
| 01:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | to make you crazy |
| 01:49.12 | NightHawkTheSane | because everyone thinks they can write one better |
| 01:49.20 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: whats a Vladof? |
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| 01:51.58 | DWSR | hey, is there any other boa trinks besides the medallion of the alliance and the swift hand of justice/discerning eye of the beast? |
| 01:52.21 | DWSR | I'm thinking the medallion's a bit of a waste on a human toon |
| 01:52.27 | fl1st4r | it's possible to sort item in dropmenu byname ? |
| 01:52.51 | Sarkp | um, why am i not eligible for trial of the champion in full ilvl 245 gear? |
| 01:53.11 | DWSR | Sarkp: Do you maen Trial of the Grand Crusader? |
| 01:53.21 | Sarkp | nope |
| 01:53.27 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: not afaik |
| 01:53.34 | Sarkp | in the lfg dialog |
| 01:53.51 | Sarkp | trial of the champion has a lock on it |
| 01:54.07 | DWSR | Are you perhaps saved to it? |
| 01:54.08 | Sarkp | halls of reflection too |
| 01:54.11 | Sarkp | no |
| 01:54.15 | DWSR | Oh, you're on the PTR. |
| 01:54.21 | DWSR | Yeah, they shut off most of the instances. |
| 01:54.22 | Sarkp | only did gundrak |
| 01:54.36 | kd3 | toc5 is still not showing up correctly in the lfg interface |
| 01:54.39 | DWSR | I believe they turned off all of Argent Tournament. |
| 01:54.42 | kd3 | don't assume what you see now is final |
| 01:54.54 | Sarkp | mmk |
| 01:55.12 | kd3 | halls of reflection is locked because 1) it isn't open yet and 2) you probably have not run both forge of souls and pit of saron yet |
| 01:55.15 | DWSR | ah, shrug. |
| 01:55.21 | DWSR | pit of saron. |
| 01:55.30 | DWSR | Anyone noticing the GIANT LotR reference? |
| 01:55.30 | kd3 | I keep trying to type pit of sauron |
| 01:55.37 | DWSR | kd3: Yeah, me too |
| 01:56.00 | Jerub | tee hee. I did AQ20 in a guild run the other night. |
| 01:56.13 | DWSR | Is the Saron in the 'Pit of Saron' supposed to be Sara? |
| 01:56.18 | kd3 | saronite |
| 01:56.33 | cogwheel | mage portals should work like engineering wormholes |
| 01:56.42 | Sarkp | DWSR: did you perhaps see the HuGE FUCKING EYEBALL in icecrown? |
| 01:56.52 | cogwheel | throw up a portal and your party members get to pick where they end up based on the spells you know |
| 01:56.55 | DWSR | Sarkp: The one I poked in that quest? |
| 01:57.06 | DWSR | cogwheel: Would be a neat idea, tbh. |
| 01:57.24 | kd3 | aw, but I like playing portal roulette and randomly sending people to theramore or the exodar |
| 01:57.34 | DWSR | kd3: I love the smell of saronite in the morning. It smells like......victory. |
| 01:58.10 | DWSR | portal roulette is funny. |
| 01:58.18 | DWSR | One of my guild's mages tried to play it. |
| 01:58.23 | DWSR | Got a 2k gold demerit. |
| 01:58.25 | DWSR | Funniest shit ever. |
| 01:58.36 | kd3 | you can only do it every few months. people tend to forget after that |
| 01:58.44 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:58.58 | DWSR | yeah, the gm was like "if I end up in the wrong spot, you owe the guild bank 2000 gold" |
| 01:59.04 | DWSR | Mage was like "srsly? tf man." |
| 01:59.48 | DWSR | The mage lost. |
| 02:00.05 | DWSR | there was cheering for the money so we can buy the final bank tab. :D |
| 02:00.17 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:00.18 | kd3 | and brb |
| 02:00.40 | DWSR | NHTS: Would there be any point in having an inherited insignia of the alliance as a human? |
| 02:00.48 | DWSR | NHTS: I mean, would the resilience even do anything? |
| 02:00.49 | Jerub | DWSR: man, that shit happens all the time in our guild. we'd willingly GIVE the mage who got our GM portaled to stonard 2000g. |
| 02:01.17 | DWSR | Jerub: Right, but we really wanted our last bank tab. |
| 02:01.37 | Dagmar | Guild leaders can be replaced |
| 02:01.39 | Jerub | :( |
| 02:01.41 | Dagmar | Bank tabs take a GM to restore. |
| 02:01.49 | Jerub | our guild leader had his account hacked :( |
| 02:02.07 | Dagmar | He's likin' his IE is he? |
| 02:02.20 | DWSR | Your Guild Leader's a fucking morning. |
| 02:02.24 | DWSR | s/morning/moron/ |
| 02:02.28 | DWSR | O.o nice typo. |
| 02:02.29 | Jerub | he's been hacked in the past, they actually think the hackers brute forced his account |
| 02:02.40 | DWSR | lol, authenticator, kthx. |
| 02:02.50 | Jerub | yeah, the guild is going to make sure he has one. |
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| 02:03.15 | Jerub | it's just a small social guild, but 4 bank tabs entirely cleaned out :( |
| 02:03.16 | DWSR | LOL |
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| 02:03.26 | DWSR | 4% haste rating is fucking 5.2% melee haste? |
| 02:03.32 | DWSR | LOL @ stat scalings at level 12. |
| 02:03.55 | Arrowmaster | i thought they made all ratings static until a certain level? |
| 02:03.55 | DWSR | I wish spell haste @ L80 worked like that |
| 02:04.04 | DWSR | I believe it's L15. |
| 02:04.53 | DWSR | at any rate, BoA gear is so OP. |
| 02:05.25 | DWSR | It's actually a little unfair, but I suppose that Blizzard has to make leveling much better for those people who have an 80 or 2. |
| 02:05.29 | DWSR | It's a fucking long ass grind. |
| 02:05.49 | Jerub | it is :/ |
| 02:06.00 | Dagmar | I worry more about the Attack of teh Clonez we'll see in Cataclysm |
| 02:06.01 | Jerub | 120% xp and BoA weapons make it a little easier. |
| 02:06.16 | DWSR | 120%? |
| 02:06.19 | Jerub | someone suggested levelling hunters to 80 then using class changes at 85 ;) |
| 02:06.19 | DWSR | oh, nvm. |
| 02:06.28 | DWSR | Thought the chest was 15% for some reason. |
| 02:06.37 | Dagmar | How many people do you think will NOT have a nearly full suit of heirloom gear ready for their new goblin/wolvar to pull out of the first mailbox they can get their grubby little hands on? |
| 02:06.39 | DWSR | They can't possibly be allowing class changes. |
| 02:09.02 | Jerub | Dagmar: Race Change. |
| 02:09.18 | Hirsute | ^^^^^ |
| 02:09.24 | DWSR | ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 02:09.26 | Jerub | DWSR: someone said they were.... dunno |
| 02:09.31 | DWSR | Jerub: That's fucking BS. |
| 02:09.43 | DWSR | Because then everyone's going to just class change to FotM. |
| 02:09.43 | Hirsute | As soon as they allow race changes to the new races, you can bet people will change en-masse |
| 02:09.46 | Jerub | kk, the person who said it was 13 and on my guild's vent, so dunno ;) |
| 02:09.59 | durcyn | the person who said it was wrong. period. |
| 02:10.02 | Arrowmaster | class will never be allowed |
| 02:10.20 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, it depends on if the armor is adjusted to 85 since the limit right now is 80 |
| 02:10.28 | Lopeppeppy | Night night, everypeople, I need my beauty rest! |
| 02:10.32 | Thunder_Child | blizz may not want people blowing through it |
| 02:10.39 | Thunder_Child | night Lopeppeppy |
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| 02:11.07 | DWSR | Are they ever going to open the instance between Old Town and Trade Districit in SW? |
| 02:11.08 | Hirsute | night Lopeppeppy |
| 02:11.28 | Hirsute | *ever*? Don't know. |
| 02:11.39 | Hirsute | Any time soon, I doubt it. |
| 02:11.41 | Arrowmaster | ever |
| 02:11.41 | DWSR | Is there even an instance there? |
| 02:11.45 | Dagmar | It's been open before. |
| 02:11.48 | Dagmar | You just missed it. |
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| 02:11.59 | DWSR | I've been playing since release =\ No I didn't. |
| 02:12.16 | Hirsute | There's an instance portal there, as I recall it wasn't really a finished instance, it was a mostly-empty instanced area. |
| 02:12.20 | Dagmar | Not early enough then |
| 02:12.22 | Arrowmaster | class is the biggest choice when creating a character, being able to just pay and change that would just destroy the game |
| 02:13.39 | DWSR | Can't wait for the stat simplification in Cata, I must say. |
| 02:14.06 | DWSR | I think they're taking it a *bit* far, but it's nice, at any rate. |
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| 02:14.47 | Jerub | DWSR: I don't think so. Have you read the threads on elitist jerks? stats taken to 6 significant figures for 12 different stats? |
| 02:14.58 | fl1st4r | it's possible to sort item in dropmenu byname ? |
| 02:15.15 | DWSR | Jerub: there's no point in taking anything to 6 sigfigs |
| 02:15.22 | DWSR | That's just e-peen stroking |
| 02:15.30 | Sarkp | yo premade rouge sup |
| 02:16.19 | DWSR | I love/hate the Mastery idea |
| 02:17.04 | DWSR | getting passive stats from talents is cool, but imo they're scaling back gear dependency a bit too much. |
| 02:17.13 | DWSR | Esp in regards to hit rating |
| 02:19.29 | Dagmar | Honestly I don't know that hit rating is all that useful of a stat to have |
| 02:19.51 | Sarkp | wheres van cleefs gauntlets at? |
| 02:19.52 | NightHawkTheSane | hit rating and expertise annoy me as stats |
| 02:19.57 | Jerub | as a melee it's just a thing that you need to have some (=540) of. |
| 02:20.03 | NightHawkTheSane | or rather, as stats on gear |
| 02:20.04 | Dagmar | It really only matters for instance/raid bosses, which doesn't make it terribly useful |
| 02:20.09 | Jerub | er 280 ? |
| 02:20.14 | Jerub | 540 is defence. |
| 02:20.18 | Dagmar | 540 is defense soft cap |
| 02:20.19 | DWSR | 280 is 8%. |
| 02:20.26 | DWSR | hit ratin |
| 02:20.31 | Dagmar | It's not 280 |
| 02:20.34 | DWSR | No, it's not. |
| 02:20.36 | Dagmar | Not far from it tho |
| 02:20.42 | Jerub | yeah, I would like hit better if it improved beyond 280 at all for melee, but it doesn't. |
| 02:21.02 | DWSR | Jerub: Yeah, but on the opposite end of the scale are spell casters hard capping @ 446 hit |
| 02:21.12 | DWSR | trust me, capping 446 is fucking painful. |
| 02:21.20 | Dagmar | Jerub: Well, if you're zerging Kazzak with a bunch of level noob toons, you'll take all the hit rating you can get |
| 02:21.47 | Dagmar | I know |
| 02:21.50 | DWSR | Stat simplification good. |
| 02:21.58 | Dagmar | I've balanced my gf's mage's gear out twice now |
| 02:22.00 | DWSR | It's a bit over the top, but I'll reserve final judgement until I get it. |
| 02:22.13 | DWSR | *However*, I would like cloth to not be so fucking homogenized. |
| 02:22.37 | DWSR | Crit < haste for locks, but Crit > Haste for mages and spriests (afaik), so I basically get boned. |
| 02:23.06 | DWSR | I know for spriests that's true, not 100% sure about mages. |
| 02:23.27 | NightHawkTheSane | im not entirely sure, but i think haste is pretty good for mages |
| 02:23.32 | DWSR | But at any rate, fixing the terrible cloth gear itemization (which is on purpose I suspect) would be nice. |
| 02:23.45 | DWSR | NHTS: Haste and crit are not 100% equal but they're not far off, IIRC. |
| 02:23.57 | DWSR | However, Haste is worth like 1.25x what crit is worth for a lock |
| 02:24.06 | DWSR | And I have 802 crit rating and 453 haste rating. |
| 02:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* probably likely. i know their main nukes scale reasonably well with haste, so its certainly not bad |
| 02:24.18 | DWSR | I had almost 600 haste rating in T7. |
| 02:25.05 | DWSR | Well the problem for most locks if that crit is inherent in their talents. |
| 02:25.40 | DWSR | There's a ton of Gives your spells +% chance to crit. |
| 02:26.03 | DWSR | There's only up to 2 talents that give you "Reduces the cast time of your x spell" |
| 02:26.13 | DWSR | And the base cast time of all the lock spells is pretty long |
| 02:26.25 | DWSR | Like, sbolt is a fucking 3.0s cast untalented? |
| 02:26.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Fireball is 3.5 |
| 02:27.18 | DWSR | right, but what's the reduction you get from talents. |
| 02:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | .5 |
| 02:27.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Quite similar to sbolt |
| 02:27.50 | ScytheBlade1 | So it is still .5 longer than sbolt |
| 02:28.33 | bleeter | and they say ken isn't gay... http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MTT3285 |
| 02:28.51 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:29.07 | DWSR | SB1: Right, but Fireball is the main nuke for only 1 spec, right? |
| 02:29.26 | DWSR | And that spec gets a bunch of stuff to turn Fireball into ICs, iirc. |
| 02:29.52 | NightHawkTheSane | no it doesnt |
| 02:30.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Pyroblast into IC upon two consecutive crits |
| 02:30.24 | Adys | Cairenn, Shirik: is there a way to receive a mail when someone comments on an addon I wrote? |
| 02:30.32 | tem | Adys, there is |
| 02:30.40 | Adys | How? |
| 02:30.41 | tem | lemme see if I can remember how... |
| 02:30.47 | Adys | always the tricky part |
| 02:31.02 | tem | look for something like subscribe to this |
| 02:31.20 | tem | got it |
| 02:31.24 | tem | go to the comment tab |
| 02:31.31 | Adys | add email feed? |
| 02:31.37 | tem | and click the thing that says add to email feed |
| 02:31.49 | Adys | loveyou |
| 02:32.35 | Cairenn | tem: 2 |
| 02:32.52 | tem | :) |
| 02:32.57 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:35.11 | Adys | http://gizmodo.com/5390916/i-want-to-have-twins-just-to-get-them-these-awesome-t+shirts |
| 02:35.14 | Adys | that is awesomely cute |
| 02:35.26 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:35.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:36.16 | Cairenn | the apple ones are cute too |
| 02:36.28 | Cairenn | although having the words on them kinda spoils it, imo |
| 02:36.37 | Adys | which? |
| 02:37.04 | Cairenn | http://gizmodo.com/5392373/twin-apple-fangirls-pwn-twin-pc-clones |
| 02:37.28 | DWSR | Cairenn: The words do really ruin it, dumb ass Mac users. |
| 02:37.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, all mac users collectively voted on those shirts. |
| 02:38.31 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: BION, i stopped calling myself a mac user just because how assholish most of them are |
| 02:38.42 | WobWork | Cairenn: heheh "Yesterday, my mum asked me to hand out invitations for my brother's surprise birthday party. That's when I realised he was the favourite twin. " |
| 02:38.46 | Adys | (just for similar reasons I call myself agnostic and not atheist) |
| 02:38.51 | Cairenn | WobWork: ROFL |
| 02:38.58 | *** join/#wowuidev AbsolutRayne (n=chatzill@XPLR-MCI-74-127-239-30.barrettxplore.com) |
| 02:39.07 | AbsolutRayne | Evening everyone, long time no see. :) |
| 02:39.13 | Adys | who are you |
| 02:39.16 | Cairenn | hey hey AbsolutRayne, how goes? |
| 02:39.33 | DWSR | You hear about the girl with the BSD shirt walking into a place with a bunch of devout catholics? |
| 02:39.33 | Adys | Cairenn: it's a trap, don't answer it |
| 02:39.50 | AbsolutRayne | Adys Cairenn - Good news on our front, I was approved for Permanent Residence in Canada this week! :D |
| 02:40.00 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: woo! congrats |
| 02:40.01 | Adys | congratulations |
| 02:40.02 | DWSR | http://humor.beecy.net/geeks/free-bsd-shirt/ |
| 02:40.05 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: Welcome to the commonwealth! |
| 02:40.08 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: You're gonna love it. |
| 02:40.25 | Thunder_Child | we feel for ya AbsolutRayne |
| 02:40.25 | AbsolutRayne | :) Thanks all |
| 02:41.26 | WobWork | DWSR: some people should honestly be gelded at birth |
| 02:41.33 | WobWork | and/or spayed |
| 02:42.03 | AbsolutRayne | So...real quick, who in here uses Fortexorcist? |
| 02:42.10 | DWSR | WobWork: Some people should just be short. |
| 02:42.13 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: Me. |
| 02:42.16 | DWSR | s/short/shot/ |
| 02:42.29 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: I think I do |
| 02:42.38 | DWSR | Currently run it on both my lock and rogue |
| 02:42.40 | WobWork | I can't remember what it looks like =P |
| 02:42.43 | AbsolutRayne | DWSR: Is there a way to make it hide while not in combat? |
| 02:42.48 | DWSR | second |
| 02:42.50 | fl1st4r | anyone can tell me why i always get 2 frame up when i try this ... http://wowuidev.pastey.net/127332 |
| 02:42.52 | DWSR | which part? |
| 02:42.56 | DWSR | The CD timer or the spell timer? |
| 02:42.56 | AbsolutRayne | Cooldown Timer |
| 02:42.58 | Hirsute | I want to turn those shirts into y p shirts. |
| 02:43.05 | AbsolutRayne | Im setting it up for my Rogue atm |
| 02:43.09 | WobWork | Hirsute: rofl |
| 02:43.10 | DWSR | Oh, just turn that off if you don't like it. The spell timer will show you CDs. |
| 02:43.17 | WobWork | Hirsute: that would be utterly geeky |
| 02:43.18 | AbsolutRayne | Really O_o |
| 02:43.24 | AbsolutRayne | goes back to fiddling |
| 02:43.30 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: you should use Sexycooldowns instead |
| 02:43.37 | Hirsute | WobWork: And very, very few people would actually understand that reference. *grin* |
| 02:43.58 | AbsolutRayne | WobWork: I really want a tracker now that my guild is deep into ToGC |
| 02:43.59 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5392605/second-use-for-google-wave-discovered-role-playing-games |
| 02:44.05 | Yssaril | fl1st4r: because you are calling CreateFrame twice |
| 02:44.05 | AbsolutRayne | So I might look into that too |
| 02:44.23 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: hm, that's a good idea |
| 02:44.54 | fl1st4r | Yssaril one for my frame and one for my button .. no ?! |
| 02:45.27 | AbsolutRayne | My Rogues actually gotten decently geared over the last week so im pretty happy |
| 02:45.37 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: I like how they say "second use" =P |
| 02:46.16 | Thunder_Child | WobWork, just wait till porn and software is #1 |
| 02:46.45 | Cairenn | I keep hoping I'll get a Wave beta invite one of these days - I applied on it |
| 02:47.02 | Thunder_Child | samw |
| 02:47.04 | Thunder_Child | same* |
| 02:47.21 | Hirsute | Also hoping I'll get a Wave invite. |
| 02:47.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i applied, but i'm actually hoping i dont get one |
| 02:47.39 | NightHawkTheSane | so far, im doing well. :P |
| 02:47.42 | WobWork | It's pretty meh |
| 02:47.42 | AbsolutRayne | Rage I just want it to hide out of Combat :( |
| 02:47.59 | WobWork | We've not had another group of invites yet |
| 02:48.04 | WobWork | else I'd pass them about |
| 02:49.34 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: Why? |
| 02:49.45 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: It shows stuff like you're hearthstone |
| 02:49.57 | DWSR | s/you're/your/ |
| 02:51.49 | Jerub | a google employee I follow on twitter was inquiring about the LD50 of red bull, and mentioned he'd been awawke 82 hours. |
| 02:52.01 | Jerub | so I'm assuming google wave isn't going so well at the server side ;) |
| 02:52.18 | WobWork | Jerub: yeah |
| 02:52.34 | AbsolutRayne | Gonna give Sexy a try here then |
| 02:53.29 | *** join/#wowuidev kdtresh (n=kdtresh@adsl-75-15-203-210.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:56.07 | AbsolutRayne | WobWork: Is there a way to Filter things I dont want on there? |
| 02:57.42 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: you'd have to ask Antiarc |
| 02:58.08 | Antiarc | Right click any icon on a bar to blacklist it |
| 02:58.47 | WobWork | *pow* Ping support, at it's best. |
| 03:00.44 | bleeter | http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,26280648-5014239,00.html |
| 03:01.43 | Shirik | "Applications and the OS are limited to just 512MB of onboard memory" |
| 03:01.50 | Shirik | is that seriously a "limitation"? |
| 03:02.00 | Shirik | The fact that we can fit that kind of RAM on a phone is insane |
| 03:02.07 | AbsolutRayne | IE, my Hearthstone :S |
| 03:02.44 | sylvanaar | Cairenn its great until you realize you have noone to collaborate with |
| 03:02.50 | Cairenn | sylvanaar: :) |
| 03:03.05 | Cairenn | sylvanaar: I do, though |
| 03:03.07 | AbsolutRayne | nm I see how |
| 03:04.57 | sylvanaar | Cairenn - plus i need something worth communicating about as well (unlike twitter) |
| 03:05.03 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:06.09 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFDcQhHeSY |
| 03:06.14 | sylvanaar | i tried gamerdna - which is like twitter for gamers - it was a little better |
| 03:07.06 | sylvanaar | Shirik thats you isnt it |
| 03:07.11 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:07.42 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.03 | sylvanaar | its late - i may have stopped being funny hours ago and just havent noticed yet |
| 03:09.39 | WobWork | Shirik: "512MB is more memory than anyone will ever need" |
| 03:10.10 | Shirik | curious sylvanaar, I wonder if that's by IHMC |
| 03:10.16 | Shirik | but yes that's totally something I would do :P |
| 03:12.03 | WobWork | Cairenn: sylvanaar is correct |
| 03:12.19 | sylvanaar | i am? |
| 03:12.21 | WobWork | And I don't think new invites are going out anytime soon |
| 03:12.29 | WobWork | with what trouble they're having atm |
| 03:14.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal_ (n=callahan@74-132-200-5.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 03:16.13 | Shirik | trouble? |
| 03:16.15 | Shirik | wahat trouble? |
| 03:16.57 | kd3 | "what the hell do I use this for?" |
| 03:17.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:17.06 | Shirik | aside from that! |
| 03:17.09 | kd3 | it took me a week to get my invite after a friend sent it >.> |
| 03:17.11 | WobWork | I hear they're having issues with scaling |
| 03:17.15 | WobWork | which is a surprise |
| 03:17.26 | Shirik | well for the technology I'm not surprised |
| 03:17.29 | Shirik | for Google, I am |
| 03:17.42 | WobWork | of all the companies... google'd be the last one I'd've guessed to not think ahead on that |
| 03:17.45 | Shirik | however as I was telling someone else recently, Wave seems to be something out of the google norm |
| 03:17.52 | Shirik | and a friend raised a potential reason |
| 03:18.02 | Shirik | he proposed that it might have been an intern project |
| 03:18.16 | Shirik | the scaling issues fall in line perfectly with that line of though |
| 03:18.18 | Shirik | thought |
| 03:18.19 | WobWork | It's had a whole lot of development put into it |
| 03:18.24 | Dagmar | Most of their stuff is intern projects |
| 03:18.27 | Shirik | has it? |
| 03:18.29 | Dagmar | I'm thinking it's more of an arrow-shooter |
| 03:18.30 | WobWork | with lars et al working on it |
| 03:18.43 | Dagmar | Half their best stuff came from people's 20% projects |
| 03:18.44 | Shirik | it just doesn't seem to fit in with all of Google's projects |
| 03:18.52 | Dagmar | No, *Lively* didnt' fit in |
| 03:18.54 | Dagmar | THat's why it's gone |
| 03:18.56 | Dagmar | P00f |
| 03:19.02 | WobWork | "Absorb other concepts and do it better"? |
| 03:19.22 | Dagmar | Usually it seems like just plain "do things better" |
| 03:19.22 | WobWork | s/it better/with better infrastructure/ |
| 03:19.25 | Shirik | Well Google's #1 goal seems to be user experience |
| 03:19.33 | Shirik | everything's responsive and easy to use |
| 03:19.44 | Shirik | wave doesn't seem to fit that. Responsive, perhaps. Easy to use? Definitely not. |
| 03:19.45 | WobWork | well wave is |
| 03:19.52 | WobWork | it's just ... not very useful |
| 03:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to say, I'm not surprised at all of the trouble that the linode outage caused |
| 03:20.40 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | not in the service itself, but in how many customers had a box that was just flat broken on reboot |
| 03:20.56 | Shirik | you heard of my problems on reboot? |
| 03:20.57 | ScytheBlade1 | But they didn't know because they never rebooted to test it all came up properly |
| 03:21.06 | ScytheBlade1 | no, but I'm not surprised ;) |
| 03:21.10 | Shirik | it was minor |
| 03:21.14 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:21.15 | Shirik | my swap drive just completely disappeared |
| 03:21.27 | Shirik | however, I had to use a SYSRQ for the first time ever for a practical purpose |
| 03:21.36 | Shirik | I couldn't regain control of the server because it was going OOM |
| 03:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I had actually been chain rebooting my servers to configure them properly on boot the day before |
| 03:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:21.56 | ScytheBlade1 | You need to fail less |
| 03:22.01 | Jerub | i used to use sysrq all the time when i had a crappy graphics card. |
| 03:22.01 | Shirik | this wasn'y my fault |
| 03:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Also run fewer java based web apps, like holy crap |
| 03:22.09 | Shirik | the drive disappeared |
| 03:22.13 | Arrowmaster | i use sysrq for rebooting nix boxes instead of pushing the reset button all the time |
| 03:22.25 | Shirik | But Linode support got me fixed in like 10 minutes |
| 03:22.30 | Shirik | I needed to run 'mknod' |
| 03:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:22.41 | Shirik | anyway, my box works perfectly on reboot (normally) |
| 03:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | wow, yeah, gentoo is terrible |
| 03:22.48 | Shirik | no |
| 03:22.51 | Shirik | it's not gentoo's fault wtf |
| 03:22.55 | Shirik | it was Linode's fault |
| 03:22.55 | Jerub | gentoo IS terrible. |
| 03:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm willing to blame that one on you |
| 03:22.56 | Shirik | they admitted it |
| 03:23.00 | Jerub | but this probablyisn't gentoo's fault. |
| 03:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure that your devices should be detected by udev and spawned |
| 03:23.13 | Shirik | Yes |
| 03:23.16 | ScytheBlade1 | A mknod is purely an end user issue! |
| 03:23.18 | Shirik | and Xen screwed up |
| 03:23.20 | WobWork | ~23838186/60/60/24/7 |
| 03:23.21 | purl | 39.414990079365 |
| 03:23.22 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:23.22 | Shirik | dude |
| 03:23.26 | Shirik | how hard is this to understand |
| 03:23.33 | Shirik | Xen failed to advertise the drive |
| 03:23.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you would have had to reboot, and udev would have seen it |
| 03:23.49 | ScytheBlade1 | (Right?) |
| 03:23.54 | Arrowmaster | your udev should have created the device when it was detected, if it was never detected then using mknod really shouldnt have fixed it |
| 03:23.56 | Shirik | well I probably could have rebooted |
| 03:24.21 | Shirik | but they just said use mknod |
| 03:24.21 | Shirik | it works always every other time |
| 03:24.41 | WobWork | ~23838186/60/60/24/30 |
| 03:24.42 | purl | 9.196831018519 |
| 03:24.51 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Can't explain it |
| 03:24.56 | Shirik | just saying that's what they said, and they admitted it was their fault |
| 03:24.57 | Antiarc | Linode is <3 |
| 03:25.06 | Shirik | mknod is way over my head |
| 03:25.12 | Jerub | Shirik: and it always will be |
| 03:25.44 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 03:25.46 | ScytheBlade1 | really? |
| 03:25.47 | Shirik | I'm not sure if tha'ts directed at mknod or me |
| 03:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | mknod |
| 03:25.54 | ScytheBlade1 | in my case |
| 03:26.22 | *** join/#wowuidev AbsolutRayne (n=chatzill@XPLR-MCI-74-127-239-30.barrettxplore.com) |
| 03:26.37 | kd3 | so uh.... 2 months later: "Blizzcast #1: BlizzCon 2009 in Review" |
| 03:27.13 | kd3 | slow blizz is slow? |
| 03:27.13 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:27.13 | kd3 | s/1/11/ |
| 03:27.13 | Shirik | anyway ScytheBlade1, my server reboots perfectly! |
| 03:27.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine do as well! |
| 03:27.15 | ScytheBlade1 | But really, no swap = you run oom? |
| 03:27.20 | Shirik | well |
| 03:27.21 | Shirik | not initially |
| 03:27.29 | Shirik | it starts up with all Java services disabled, intentionally |
| 03:27.33 | Dagmar | He likes the excitement of the OOM killer |
| 03:27.35 | Shirik | the Java services..... |
| 03:27.35 | kd3 | then you need to be fixing your leaks? |
| 03:27.44 | Shirik | It's something I'm actively trying to resolv |
| 03:27.48 | kd3 | which would probably entail killing java |
| 03:27.51 | kd3 | repeatedly |
| 03:27.57 | kd3 | with a blunt instrument |
| 03:28.03 | Shirik | I already have a second server which is offloading two of the Java services, then I use Apache mod_proxy to redirect to it |
| 03:28.08 | Shirik | but I still have 2 more to fit somewhere |
| 03:28.22 | Shirik | and I have no more boxes |
| 03:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure I'll be running 2 L4D2 servers in the near future, and I'm already running 2 L4D and 1 L4D2 server right now |
| 03:29.06 | Shirik | Java eats up soooo much |
| 03:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | In addition to the usual full LAMP stack |
| 03:29.18 | Shirik | let me check it |
| 03:29.19 | kd3 | points at his killing java statement again |
| 03:29.24 | ScytheBlade1 | And kerberos/ldap replication |
| 03:29.28 | ScytheBlade1 | And.. no swap used |
| 03:29.40 | Shirik | I was at no swap until I got these Java services |
| 03:30.05 | Shirik | anyway, the non-Java services are still fast enough |
| 03:30.14 | Shirik | that's all I really care about |
| 03:30.18 | Shirik | Fisheye is what kills my server I think |
| 03:30.41 | Shirik | I may offload that to my dedicated machine as well |
| 03:30.45 | Shirik | but my dedicated machine is running low on memory too, but I think I have some free lots in it |
| 03:30.45 | Shirik | slots |
| 03:30.58 | AbsolutRayne | @_@ |
| 03:31.10 | AbsolutRayne | We captured WG with less than a minute to go. |
| 03:31.38 | kd3 | been there; done that. usually it was the horde lagging into the room before the door loaded |
| 03:32.17 | AbsolutRayne | Horde had 12 Catapults in front of the vault door just sliming the open hole in the wall |
| 03:32.19 | AbsolutRayne | Was pretty neat |
| 03:33.00 | AbsolutRayne | God I cannot wait for Sunday |
| 03:33.58 | Shirik | here |
| 03:33.58 | Shirik | fisheye: 742M Virtual, Res 295M (41% Mem) |
| 03:34.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe you shouldn't be running that |
| 03:36.57 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 :( |
| 03:37.00 | Shirik | why have you forsaken me :( |
| 03:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ........... |
| 03:39.33 | Shirik | see |
| 03:42.28 | DWSR | Is there any way for pb's aura module to show the buff's tooltip on mouseover? |
| 03:42.39 | DWSR | And WTF @ connection issues related to the Improved Demonic Tactis talent. =\ |
| 03:42.47 | kd3 | doesn't it already? |
| 03:42.49 | DWSR | No. |
| 03:43.01 | kd3 | logs in and checks |
| 03:43.02 | NightHawkTheSane | so. um. i feel dumb asking this on irc.. but i dropped a glass bottle and sliced the tip of my finger kinda deeply. is there anything i should be doing other than wrapping it to stop the bleeding? |
| 03:43.10 | DWSR | at least, it currently doesn't for me and I can't find the option |
| 03:43.16 | kd3 | make sure you get all of the glass out |
| 03:43.16 | Shirik | define "kinda deeply" |
| 03:43.22 | AbsolutRayne | http://hdimage.org/images/2yqg28gd2wwuqmlqubs.jpg Need suggestions on where to place SexyCooldown, its currently covering all my SLDT Info. |
| 03:43.32 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Heheh. Hydrogen Peroxide |
| 03:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, define "kinda deeply" |
| 03:43.37 | kd3 | ow |
| 03:43.49 | Shirik | you're probably just better off going to the hospital and letting them make decision on stitches, etc. |
| 03:43.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: had it been much deeper, my index finger would be about 1/8" shorter >< |
| 03:44.04 | Dagmar | Ya may not like it, but it'll keep infection out |
| 03:44.04 | kd3 | h2o2+open wounds == pain |
| 03:44.06 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: l2 decrease jpeg quality, =\ |
| 03:44.11 | Dagmar | kd3: Yes, but it works |
| 03:44.16 | ScytheBlade1 | You get to go to your local hospital to get stitches in all probability then |
| 03:44.26 | AbsolutRayne | DWSR: Sorry, uploaded on the fly |
| 03:44.27 | Shirik | I would go to the hospital really |
| 03:44.28 | kd3 | you'll probably want to hit an urgent care clinic instead of the er. cheaper, they're just as capable |
| 03:44.29 | Shirik | wrap it up first then go |
| 03:44.33 | Hirsute | NightHawkTheSane: You might want to get to an ER and see if there's any stitching of tendons, skin or muscle that needs to be done. |
| 03:44.36 | ScytheBlade1 | yup @ kd3 |
| 03:44.38 | Dagmar | On the flipside, if you ever wind up _crushing_ the tip of your finger, after you manage to stop screaming the hydrogen peroxide really can't make it feel any worse |
| 03:44.41 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 03:44.48 | Hirsute | Agree with kd3 if there's one convenient. |
| 03:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | fuck me. |
| 03:44.52 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: tinypic.com <- Please put it here. |
| 03:44.55 | Shirik | not while you're bleeding |
| 03:44.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrap it up *tight* |
| 03:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | has no healrh insurance atm >< |
| 03:45.04 | DWSR | Much faster, plus it automatically scales it down. |
| 03:45.06 | Shirik | :/ |
| 03:45.06 | Dagmar | Bah if it' sjust the tip of your finger put some crazy glue on it and call it a day |
| 03:45.13 | kd3 | which is why I said urgent care. it'll be far cheaper that way |
| 03:45.21 | Sarkp | hey, a girl with a sweaty face is trying to get me to play evony |
| 03:45.42 | Codayus_ | Evony ads are so incredibly icky. |
| 03:45.43 | DWSR | Sarkp: It's sweaty from the effort of getting up from the computer. |
| 03:45.50 | kd3 | and I've been there and done that... |
| 03:45.51 | Hirsute | Aye, I agree with you, kd3, if there's an urgent care within a reasonable distance. |
| 03:46.04 | kd3 | 's little brother nearly sliced off his index finger when he was 8 |
| 03:46.07 | AbsolutRayne | DWSR: http://i36.tinypic.com/2vuy1wp.jpg There |
| 03:46.23 | AbsolutRayne | Resolution crush :( |
| 03:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | DID slice off the last joint in his middle finger when he was ~3 |
| 03:46.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko (n=Testing@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/Kandoko) |
| 03:47.06 | Sarkp | DWSR: nothing wrong with boobs, but sweaty faces is where i draw the line |
| 03:47.14 | ScytheBlade1 | On one hand, fingers are normal. On the other, the three middle fingers are all the same length |
| 03:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It freaks people out ^^ |
| 03:47.26 | Shirik | three middle fingers >< |
| 03:47.30 | Corrodias | aw, you're making me remember WoW fondly |
| 03:47.32 | Corrodias | i nearly wax nostalgic |
| 03:48.21 | Shirik | I sliced my thumb pretty deeply while I was working at Best Buy |
| 03:48.34 | Shirik | you can still see a mark on it |
| 03:48.37 | kd3 | retail injuries! those are fun |
| 03:48.40 | DWSR | AbsolutRayne: tbh, leaving the cd bar where it is is what I'd do |
| 03:48.41 | Shirik | not really noticable unless you're looking though |
| 03:48.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I did that myself but on a tin can lid |
| 03:48.51 | Adys | http://www.zorgloob.com/2009/10/la-bretagne-spamme-google.asp |
| 03:49.02 | ScytheBlade1 | All of my fingers are actually sliced up pretty good, none of my fingerprints are "intact" |
| 03:49.05 | Hirsute | I'm going to have nightmares for weeks: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=5918 |
| 03:49.18 | DWSR | Adys: In English? |
| 03:49.28 | Adys | DWSR: http://www.google.gr/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=cheque+sport |
| 03:49.42 | AbsolutRayne | DWSR: I just dont like how it covers my DataText, especially my Dura and MS, but I guess I could live with that |
| 03:49.42 | DWSR | dude. |
| 03:49.46 | Adys | thats some pro seo |
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| 03:50.24 | Shirik | ah shit |
| 03:50.29 | Shirik | I'm supposed to set up confluence tonight |
| 03:50.36 | Shirik | more Java services ScytheBlade1! |
| 03:50.44 | Shirik | (but this one's going to go on the secondary server, so :P ) |
| 03:51.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't do that |
| 03:51.08 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 03:51.13 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:51.37 | Shirik | I really think I need to reorder my servers a bit |
| 03:51.50 | Shirik | fisheye should be on the dedicated box and JIRA/Confluence should be on the main box |
| 03:51.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I did that the other day actually |
| 03:52.04 | Shirik | but that's going to take a lot of work |
| 03:52.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I blew one away entirely and dropped 64-bit CentOS on it |
| 03:52.12 | ScytheBlade1 | (As opposed to 32-bit) |
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| 03:55.29 | DWSR | Anyone know about the issue with Imp. Demonic Tactics (Demo. Warlock) causing connection issues? |
| 03:56.47 | Shirik | heyo heyo |
| 03:59.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait a minute |
| 03:59.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik worked at best buy? |
| 03:59.56 | DWSR | LOL |
| 04:00.21 | DWSR | Best = please, right? |
| 04:00.21 | Shirik | yup |
| 04:00.21 | Shirik | pretty much all through high school |
| 04:00.30 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 04:00.32 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:00.37 | ScytheBlade1 | best buy :/ |
| 04:00.42 | Shirik | problem with best buy? |
| 04:00.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 04:00.55 | Seerah | where did you work through high school? |
| 04:01.04 | ScytheBlade1 | They sell 80mm fans for $30 |
| 04:01.08 | Shirik | Let me say this: Not all stores are equal. I quit my job when I transferred down to the FL Best Buy because I couldn't stand it |
| 04:01.09 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:01.13 | Shirik | they sold them to me for about $0.99 |
| 04:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | The same ones I can purchase _anywhere_ else for about $0.50 |
| 04:01.30 | Shirik | yeah :P |
| 04:01.37 | Shirik | accessories are how the computer department makes all its money |
| 04:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | When I saw those, I never returned |
| 04:01.46 | Shirik | USB cables |
| 04:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Seerah: small business, IT admin |
| 04:02.05 | Seerah | through high school? |
| 04:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | middle through high school actually |
| 04:02.41 | Seerah | :P I guess some people have more "normal" teenage jobs ;) |
| 04:02.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:02.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 04:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It was kinda nice graduating high school with just under 6 years of windows server/client experience ;) |
| 04:03.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:04.25 | Seerah | I graduated with experience in babysitting and cleaning cabins |
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| 04:06.25 | Shirik | huggles Seerah |
| 04:11.34 | Arrowmaster | man and all i graduated with was just half the college credits towards a 2 year degree, that 5 years later im 1 class away from completing |
| 04:12.35 | Arrowmaster | im still ahead of the average though, average is 7 years to complete an associate degree at my college |
| 04:12.46 | Codayus_ | Oo |
| 04:12.57 | Shirik | 7 years? |
| 04:12.58 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 04:13.15 | Arrowmaster | many many people taking only night classes |
| 04:13.21 | Shirik | I guess that makes sense |
| 04:13.49 | Arrowmaster | and i refuse to take anything earlier than noon |
| 04:15.56 | DWSR | Is there any way for pb's aura module to show the buff's tooltip on mouseover? |
| 04:20.32 | Adys | DWSR: No |
| 04:26.53 | Arrowmaster | yay new KG-a to watch |
| 04:39.33 | tem | woo One Light |
| 04:39.35 | tem | finally |
| 04:39.37 | tem | get my drake |
| 04:45.11 | Corrodias | does WoW support a borderless window mode yet? |
| 04:45.25 | Dagmar | Does Windows even support that? |
| 04:45.38 | Corrodias | yeah, Source engine games offer it |
| 04:45.46 | Dagmar | I know under Linux that's a window manager decision to make |
| 04:45.51 | Corrodias | Media Player Classic can get rid of its titlebar, too |
| 04:46.02 | Dagmar | You might be able to find something to force that under Win32, but then you could probably just install LiteStep |
| 04:46.24 | Corrodias | windows XP would let you move the titlebar of a window up past the top of the screen, so it wasn't a huge deal |
| 04:46.28 | Corrodias | win7 doesn't allow that. |
| 04:46.44 | Corrodias | worst design change ever. |
| 04:47.08 | Dagmar | Say that to someone that managed to move the titlebar off screen and can't get it back |
| 04:47.28 | Corrodias | at least that's easy to solve if you know how |
| 04:48.00 | Corrodias | alt, space, M (for move), hold an arrow key and move your mouse in the visible area, window will snap to it |
| 04:49.23 | Seerah | or just right-click on task bar and select "move" |
| 04:49.39 | Corrodias | yeah. i had one program that disabled that menu item, for no apparent reason |
| 04:49.47 | Seerah | nice |
| 04:49.50 | Dagmar | watches the point fly over Seerah, leaving contrails in it's wak |
| 04:49.51 | Dagmar | e |
| 04:49.55 | Corrodias | oh yeah, and in windows 7, those no longer appear on the taskbar button menu. |
| 04:50.05 | Corrodias | they're replaced with what i consider to be far less useful options |
| 04:50.23 | Seerah | oh, I like those options. but right-click on the preview of the frame/window, and you get hte menu |
| 04:50.36 | Corrodias | oh good |
| 04:50.39 | Corrodias | thanks! |
| 04:50.45 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck laughing too hard |
| 04:50.53 | Arrowmaster | damn this season has some good comedies |
| 04:50.56 | Corrodias | anyway, i take it by the responses that wow doesn't support borderless windows |
| 04:51.11 | Seerah | windowed -> maximized is all I got |
| 04:51.12 | Corrodias | wait, yes it does, maximized window. |
| 04:51.18 | Corrodias | that's pretty close to borderless window, anyway. |
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| 04:59.37 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 04:59.38 | purl | ~pong |
| 04:59.59 | Fisker | you're not gonna get me Shirik |
| 05:00.40 | Shirik | k |
| 05:07.11 | Shirik | uh |
| 05:07.15 | Shirik | who here is good at C++? |
| 05:07.31 | Shirik | I think my compiler is lying to me |
| 05:07.46 | Shirik | does private inheritance block all uses of the base class, even unrelated to the inheritance tree? |
| 05:11.48 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:11.56 | cbreak | it should just make all things related to the class you inherit privately private |
| 05:12.15 | Fisker | awesomes |
| 05:12.21 | Dagmar | Sooper sekrit, in other words. |
| 05:12.57 | Dagmar | That's like, two inches beyond my knowledge of C++ |
| 05:13.09 | Dagmar | I'm mainly happy when my code lets me at my own variables. |
| 05:13.11 | Fisker | i've been killing you Dagmar |
| 05:13.12 | Fisker | all this time |
| 05:13.23 | Dagmar | Really? How's that workin' out for ya? |
| 05:13.46 | Shirik | right cbreak |
| 05:13.52 | Shirik | but.... it's ... doing something strange |
| 05:14.06 | Shirik | http://codepad.org/vd0hRAj5 results in error C2247: 'IDEA::Database::IQueryCondition' not accessible because 'IDEA::Database::CQueryConditionDecorator' uses 'private' to inherit from 'IDEA::Database::IQueryCondition' |
| 05:14.56 | Dagmar | That actually sounds logical. |
| 05:15.20 | Dagmar | Thing X is inhereiting Thing Y's function as a private member. |
| 05:15.23 | Jerub | heh, if only it were super sekrit. |
| 05:15.36 | Jerub | would make compiled C++ much smaller ;) |
| 05:15.40 | Dagmar | Same as if X declared something private directly, right? |
| 05:15.55 | Shirik | btw the error occurs on line... |
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| 05:16.02 | Dagmar | Jerub: What makes C++ smaller is lopping off a few ++'s |
| 05:16.03 | Shirik | 136 in the pastey |
| 05:16.11 | Jerub | Dagmar: ;) |
| 05:16.12 | Shirik | it doesn't really make any sense at all, there is no member being accessed |
| 05:16.16 | Dagmar | ...but then you have to do your own string functions and then some. |
| 05:16.33 | WobWork | wouldn't the private inheritance mean that only the direct inheritor can access it? |
| 05:17.10 | Dagmar | ....and I grind to a halt not being able to remember wtf ~ does |
| 05:17.31 | WobWork | destuctor? |
| 05:17.45 | WobWork | wow, it's been a while =P |
| 05:17.48 | Shirik | ok so the solution is that I can't just say IQueryCondition, I need to fully specify it as IDEA::Database::IQueryCondition |
| 05:17.53 | Shirik | however... I don't know why |
| 05:18.03 | Dagmar | 'cuz the namespace you're in |
| 05:18.24 | Shirik | it's the correct namespace |
| 05:18.42 | Shirik | the people in ##c++ are debating over whether or not it's a compiler bug or correct |
| 05:18.49 | Dagmar | You're *in* IDEA::Database? |
| 05:19.07 | Dagmar | Oh. You are. |
| 05:19.08 | Dagmar | WTF |
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| 05:19.21 | Dagmar | Okay, I should have looked a little wider than three lines up and down |
| 05:19.41 | Dagmar | OKay, now I have no idea why it's not working |
| 05:20.07 | Jerub | oh that's hilarious, i never knew that gamble paid off. |
| 05:20.28 | Jerub | ##C## redirects to ##csharp - but ##C# doesn't because I preemptively registered it a million years ago. |
| 05:20.37 | Dagmar | I would have to say it's probably got something to do with the part right smack in the middle of the previous stanza, mentioned in the comments |
| 05:20.55 | Fisker | WobWork |
| 05:20.58 | Fisker | i need you |
| 05:22.10 | Dagmar | "[...] Copying or modifying these objects is dangerous [...]" |
| 05:23.18 | Dagmar | I'll bet whatever that warning (C4512) is about is part of what's going awry at 137 |
| 05:23.42 | Shirik | C4512 is because it can't automatically generate the assignment operator. I don't want one anyway, so I just kill it off. |
| 05:23.47 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:24.44 | Dagmar | Right so this is also why I despise the hell out of C++'s contexts |
| 05:24.59 | Shirik | it doesn't seem to be a compiler bug |
| 05:25.01 | Shirik | g++ agrees |
| 05:25.14 | Shirik | Compare http://codepad.org/Rr2ybov7 to http://codepad.org/aWPBd5P2 |
| 05:25.30 | Shirik | the line number of the error is especially curious |
| 05:26.12 | Dagmar | WHat #? |
| 05:26.21 | Shirik | it's in the pastey |
| 05:26.30 | Shirik | (the second one has no error) |
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| 05:27.12 | Dagmar | Okay to there's definitely something occult going on in 47 then |
| 05:27.32 | Dagmar | I dont' know why it wouldn't have that namespace figured out all by itself |
| 05:29.09 | Dagmar | Is there any way you could convince the thing to tell you what it thinks the namespace is there? |
| 05:29.09 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:29.15 | Fisker | my cat wants to speak |
| 05:29.22 | Fisker | ,,okloklokloklokloklokloklokloklokloklokloklokloklokloklokl |
| 05:29.23 | Dagmar | Like, without the explicit IDEA::Database:: part? |
| 05:29.51 | Dagmar | ...and preferably without trying to strace g++ |
| 05:30.22 | Shirik | I don't use g++ enough to know really |
| 05:31.42 | Dagmar | Well, at least I'm sure I've no idea why the presumed namespace inside COrQueryConditionDecorator( isn't IDEA::Database... |
| 05:32.05 | Dagmar | ...and variables like m_lhs should die. |
| 05:32.25 | Shirik | why? |
| 05:32.34 | Dagmar | Because alphabet soup is bad |
| 05:32.49 | Shirik | left hand side is pretty well known acronym, especially in this context :/ |
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| 05:33.37 | Dagmar | ...and yet there is a comment explaining that. |
| 05:33.49 | Shirik | because it needs a comment :P |
| 05:34.04 | Dagmar | Yes, and that's just kind of a pet peeve of mine |
| 05:34.22 | Dagmar | If you're looking at a mere two 'words', what it's doing should generally be self-explanatory |
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| 05:35.59 | Dagmar | I also get grumpy when I see 'x' being used as an iterator when it actually represents a counter of something else |
| 05:36.01 | Shirik | everything should be documented anyway, regardless if it's self-explanatory |
| 05:36.08 | Dagmar | like say, 'rows'. |
| 05:36.14 | Dagmar | ...er "rows". |
| 05:36.39 | Codayus_ | dep5vala |
| 05:36.43 | Codayus_ | Fuck |
| 05:36.48 | Dagmar | Wooo! |
| 05:36.54 | Dagmar | Now I just need his email address and I can be a tank! |
| 05:37.06 | Shirik | (01:36:52)  -› [notice from NickServ]: Invalid password for Codayus_. |
| 05:37.07 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:37.22 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 05:38.02 | Codayus_ | I'd be more concered if there was any way for anyone in this channel to exploit that info. |
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| 05:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | wee! stitches >< |
| 05:50.32 | NightHawkTheSane | and a medical bill that will probably give me a heart attack |
| 05:52.15 | Adys | [07:35:38] <Codayus_> I'd be more concered if there was any way for anyone in this channel to exploit that info. |
| 05:52.38 | Adys | which illegal drug selling site is it the admin password for? |
| 05:53.58 | Shirik | really NightHawkTheSane? :( |
| 05:54.33 | Shirik | still, it's better to take care of it now before it becomes a medical bill you really can't control because it got infected or whatever |
| 05:54.38 | NightHawkTheSane | man, xkcd is win |
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| 05:56.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yeah, I know. I dont actually know -how- much it will be. Just that ERs tend to be pricy :\ |
| 05:57.09 | Shirik | so |
| 05:57.11 | Shirik | how exactly did you do this? |
| 05:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 05:57.21 | Shirik | we kinda didn't have time to discuss that earlier P |
| 05:57.22 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:57.33 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: you need to reform your health care. |
| 05:57.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I dropped a glass bottle of milk while putting it back in the fridge |
| 05:57.45 | Shirik | Jerub: Well, it wasn't a preexisting condition |
| 05:57.49 | Shirik | glass bottle? |
| 05:57.56 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 05:57.59 | Shirik | those still exist? |
| 05:58.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yep, not common, usually local/small dairies |
| 05:58.57 | NightHawkTheSane | the milk is really good. |
| 05:59.04 | Lunessa | NHTS - Injure your foot? |
| 05:59.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: finger |
| 05:59.28 | NightHawkTheSane | left index. typing sucks now. |
| 05:59.34 | Lunessa | Did you go to the ER? |
| 05:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 05:59.42 | Shirik | Lunessa missed all this :) |
| 05:59.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah :) |
| 05:59.49 | Shirik | at first he was typing on the computer with his bloody finger |
| 05:59.55 | Shirik | and we had to convince him to get it checked :P |
| 06:00.09 | Shirik | (I imagine the first part of that because it's more amusing :P) |
| 06:00.12 | Jerub | what? for a cut? |
| 06:00.13 | NightHawkTheSane | well it really didn't take much convincing |
| 06:00.26 | Lunessa | I did. Bite me. My friend is hurt, I'm curious. |
| 06:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly i was still in a little bit of shock, and how serious it was hadn't quite sunk in yet. |
| 06:01.03 | Shirik | better than most |
| 06:01.03 | Lunessa | Co-Pay for ER visits on many plans are painfully expensive |
| 06:01.11 | Shirik | most people are just "nah I'll be fine screw that" |
| 06:01.15 | Shirik | which is very wrong |
| 06:01.33 | Jerub | in australia, there's no suhc thing as an ER that you pay for. |
| 06:01.47 | Lunessa | Like the commercial that has the guy with the arrow in his chest, "I'm sure it will be fine." |
| 06:02.02 | Shirik | it's just a flesh wound |
| 06:02.09 | Lunessa | Jerub: You pay. You just don't notice that you're paying. |
| 06:02.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: long story short, i dropped a glass milk bottle, cut my finger badly. went to er, got stitches, and now i'm fine :) |
| 06:02.22 | Shirik | I'm still missing something |
| 06:02.28 | Jerub | Lunessa: you pay when you're healthy and working in a job. |
| 06:02.31 | Shirik | how do you drop a glass bottle and cut your finger? |
| 06:02.35 | Lunessa | NHTS - did they give you pain meds? |
| 06:02.44 | Jerub | as opposed to that time when you're hurt really badly and need medical attention. |
| 06:02.50 | Jerub | we consider this a superior option. |
| 06:02.52 | Lunessa | Jerub: Taxation... mmmmmm... it does an economy good. |
| 06:03.29 | Jerub | it also helps with roads and schools. :) |
| 06:03.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: nah. some local anestetic (sp?) but thats it |
| 06:03.41 | batbot | NightHawkTheSane, anesthetic. |
| 06:03.47 | Shirik | is fortunate that, while he remains a full time student, he has his parents' health care from work, and my employer when I leave school also gives me health care |
| 06:04.22 | Lunessa | *shrug* Taxation for communal service is usually a poor way to manage things, but most people in here disagree with me. |
| 06:04.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i'm not entirey sure how it happened either, honestly. I think it hit the fridge door and broke, and then the shards ricoched (sp?) into my finger, or something like that |
| 06:04.26 | batbot | NightHawkTheSane, ricochet. |
| 06:04.43 | Jerub | american healthcare is batshit insane :( |
| 06:04.49 | Shirik | Lunessa: It's called communism :D |
| 06:04.58 | Lunessa | NHTS - I hope the healing is swift and largely not inconvienent |
| 06:05.06 | Shirik | There are two sides to it |
| 06:05.16 | Shirik | On one side, nobody should die because they don't have enough money to get care they need |
| 06:05.41 | Shirik | On the other side, I think it's inappropriate that people that work their asses off essentially would have to pay for those whom may not be able to work for years |
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| 06:05.47 | Lunessa | Shirik: As a political philosophy, it doesn't work. And people (like me) who point it out are called greedy and heartless. |
| 06:05.50 | Shirik | or for people that made stupid choices in their life |
| 06:05.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i do software dev for a living. its my left index finger. It's already quite inconvenient, But thanks :) |
| 06:06.12 | Shirik | it's ok, you're a web developer |
| 06:06.19 | Shirik | you'll be pretty much on par with the rest of them now |
| 06:06.26 | Jerub | Shirik: The words you're saying, they don't make any sense to me. |
| 06:06.40 | Shirik | Jerub? |
| 06:06.45 | Lunessa | The needs of the many should not be my expense. |
| 06:06.57 | Shirik | Lunessa: I see your side. And I honestly don't know which side I'm on. |
| 06:07.00 | Jerub | Shirik: You'd prefer that people who were hurt badly weren't taken care of by the system they contribute to? |
| 06:07.04 | Shirik | Both sides are broken |
| 06:07.06 | Shirik | imo |
| 06:07.14 | Shirik | but I also don't see another option |
| 06:07.17 | Shirik | it's like Sophie's Choice |
| 06:07.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i think that point is the basis of what we disagree on. ) |
| 06:07.27 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 06:07.35 | Jerub | sounds like fear of change to me. |
| 06:07.52 | Shirik | Jerub: If they were hurt and were contributing well, then they deserve care |
| 06:08.00 | Shirik | however those people that weren't contributing to society? |
| 06:08.19 | Shirik | I don't really know what to do with them |
| 06:08.24 | Shirik | that's the half I have a problem with |
| 06:08.24 | Jerub | we aussies have had adequate ubiquitous healthcare for so long that it's hard to comprehend having to pay for medical care if we have an accident. |
| 06:08.36 | Lunessa | NHTS - I'm not opposed to taxes and a system to maintain things held in common trust - but I don't believe that it is my duty or responsibility to pay for the bottomless well of need for others. |
| 06:08.49 | Shirik | I don't want anyone to have poor health care, but I also have a problem with the socialistic view that people should get equal benefits for differeing amounts of work |
| 06:08.50 | Jerub | sure, we pay extra for better care (private hospitals, private doctors) sometimes, but no one needs that to live. |
| 06:09.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: ultimately i don't feel "free" health care should never be denied to anyone. it's inhuman to do so |
| 06:09.11 | Lunessa | Jerub: In most places here, you wouldn't be refused treatment for an accident just because you didn't have insurance. |
| 06:09.15 | Codayus_ | Jerub: Just because you have an accident doesn't mean you have to stop paying for healthcare. :) It's just included in your tax bill, not a seperate line item. |
| 06:09.31 | Jerub | Lunessa: sure, but the fees would bankrupt you after the fact. |
| 06:09.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: there's a double neg in there, incorrectly >< |
| 06:09.45 | Jerub | Lunessa: if you explained that situation to an australian they'd think you were lying. |
| 06:09.59 | Jerub | Codayus_: yes, we know it's included in our taxes, and we're fucking grateful for it. |
| 06:10.19 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: Everyone deserves to live, sure |
| 06:10.28 | Shirik | and have quality health care |
| 06:10.42 | Shirik | But also, I deserve to not have to pay for everyone else |
| 06:10.55 | Shirik | since I spent an extra 7 years of my life not making money and just studying |
| 06:11.01 | Shirik | gaining experience |
| 06:11.01 | Shirik | etc. |
| 06:11.07 | Codayus_ | Jerub: Well, Australians *are* well known for not being very bright. :-) But more seriously, it's important to keep in mind that there are two completely different problems. Cost of healthcare, and how you pay for it. The US problem is overwhelmingly the former; and people are overwhelmingly proposing solutions for the latter. Fail. |
| 06:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* the money has to come from somewhere |
| 06:11.11 | Shirik | I know |
| 06:11.17 | Shirik | and that's why I say, I have no idea which side I'm on |
| 06:11.24 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 06:11.30 | Shirik | because those two problems have mutually exclusive solutions |
| 06:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm very solidly on the socialist side ;) but thats probably obvious. |
| 06:11.43 | Shirik | I do not envy Obama's position right now |
| 06:12.18 | Jerub | oh, and you have the other two problems that are rearing their head behidn this debate: a large illegal workforce and tipping culture, both of which mean lots of money is going through non-taxed channels. |
| 06:12.21 | Lunessa | Jerub: If you like it, live there. I don't - I live here. And here, even if I don't agree on all points with those who agree on this point... we can still vote together on this and prevent me from getting yet another tax hike. |
| 06:13.05 | Codayus_ | Jerub: Um, I don't mean to be harsh, but if you think the issue is tax avoidance... *boggle* |
| 06:13.30 | Codayus_ | Look up the amount - as a percent of GDP - the US spends on health care. Compare to the rest of the OECD. |
| 06:13.39 | Jerub | Codayus_: uh, there's a lot of debate I've heard secondhand about "but if we have free healthcare, won't illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes get it too"? |
| 06:14.15 | Codayus_ | That's a legit question, but it's a fairness question, and very much a secondary issue. |
| 06:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: those people piss me off |
| 06:14.46 | Lunessa | We happen to have available the most cutting-edge treatments for many conditions, some of the most amazing medical technology and great hospitals. Saving lives isn't cheap, death is. I'd like to save more lives too - I just don't expect those people to expect me to be the one to pay for it all. |
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| 06:14.59 | Lunessa | Personal responsibility has to come in somewhere. :) |
| 06:15.19 | Codayus_ | The US doesn't spend incredibly more than everyone else does, per head, because some of those heads are immigrants. It may not HELP (illegal immigrants frequently use extra-expensive emergency services, rather than preventive care) but it's not the problem. |
| 06:16.21 | Lunessa | Yeah, you call 911 for chest pains and you will get a ride to the hospital and emergency care to save your life. You will also get a bill. |
| 06:16.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i just can't in good conscious say that someone shouldn't get the health care they need. cost is entirely ancilliary to that, in a "how do we pay for it" manner, not a "shoud we do it" manner |
| 06:16.37 | Lunessa | Many of those bills go unpaid. |
| 06:18.12 | Lunessa | But I wouldn't turn you away from life-saving emergency care because you can't pay. I would happily send you a billl and try to collect though, even if it meant you paid over a very long time. |
| 06:18.52 | Lunessa | Hell, get rescued by the British Navy because you were sailing and had an accident, and the Crown will send you a bill. :P |
| 06:19.17 | Codayus_ | NightHawkTheSane: That's argument is loaded with unexamined priors. "Need"? What healthcare do people NEED? If you have cancer, do you "need" the best treatment? Or just cost effective treatment? How low do your survival chances have to be before you need palliative care only? |
| 06:20.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus_: i apologize for the cop out, but those are good questions, and it would take far longer to formulate a response than i have (about to do an intance) |
| 06:20.31 | Codayus_ | And why is health care different than food, shelter, clothing, education, liesure activities? Nobody makes sure I have all I need (or think I need) of those. Best case I get a monthly check which might cover them all if I'm smart about it, and told to figure it out. |
| 06:20.38 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 06:20.40 | Codayus_ | No worries. |
| 06:20.42 | NightHawkTheSane | so i'll just say "I dont have easy answers" |
| 06:20.52 | Codayus_ | Good answer. Nobody does. :-p |
| 06:21.13 | NightHawkTheSane | aside, though, health care isn't, to me, different than food/shelter/education |
| 06:21.35 | Lunessa | Right. :) So "Free Healthcare" is a moving target for which there is no good definition and no real solutions. |
| 06:22.07 | Lunessa | Bah, you're not entitled to a home, food, or higher education. |
| 06:22.12 | Lunessa | You earn those things. |
| 06:22.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: well im not going to lie and say "free" is really free :P |
| 06:22.39 | Codayus_ | Lunessa: Would you agree that we, *as a society* should not - as as a practical matter, will not - stand by and let someone die because they lack some or all of those? |
| 06:23.47 | Lunessa | Codayus_: I will not allow people who suffer a major reverse die of those things. Neither will I pass those things out to those who will not attempt to achieve them on their own. |
| 06:25.12 | Lunessa | City gets knocked down by the worst storm in a long time and the dikes broke? Help. Won't get a job, refused to go to school (which I already paid for!) - why should I pay for your housing? |
| 06:25.52 | Lunessa | Why should some get for free what others must labor to earn? |
| 06:27.25 | Lunessa | I know, I know. I'm heartless and cruel. |
| 06:27.40 | Shirik | I don't believe that Lunessa :( |
| 06:28.04 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* i understand your viewpoint |
| 06:28.09 | NightHawkTheSane | its not completely crazy :P |
| 06:28.10 | Codayus_ | Lunessa: *shrug* I wouldn't say so. But I would say that society as a whole has decided otherwise, which means the debate worth having now is in how to administer, distribute, and pay for housing to people who refuse to get a job. |
| 06:28.33 | Codayus_ | Since apparently there's no future in arguing we shouldn't do so at all. :) |
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| 06:29.03 | Lunessa | Codayus_: I don't agree. It's never too late ro reexamine your position and change policy. |
| 06:29.57 | Codayus_ | A rearguard effort to advocate for, say, the role of charities and non-profits is going to be more useful than standing on the beach, commanding the tide to roll back. Which, I think, is basically what your doing in any 1st world country to advocate not providing homeless shelters, food banks, etc., at *all*. |
| 06:30.13 | Codayus_ | (Or rather, not providing them except in circumstances of natureal disasters, etc.) |
| 06:32.24 | WobWork | Cairenn: http://thedw.us/post/227118691/omg-adorbz-of-the-day-disapproving-bear |
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| 06:32.41 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 06:32.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:33.23 | Lunessa | Codayus_: Perhaps - but I have strong feelings and I vote based on my reasoning - I even posted a (simplified) diatribe about it last year - http://mconverse.livejournal.com/2008/10/20/ |
| 06:33.36 | Codayus_ | Heh |
| 06:34.08 | WobWork | Not working in retail, alwaysright.com is an amusing site |
| 06:34.22 | WobWork | Working in IT, however, means that the dailywtf is a terrifying site |
| 06:34.41 | Lunessa | WobWork: <3 that site for the lulz |
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| 06:56.47 | sylvanaar | Lunessa i can totally agree, 90% of homeless people are that way by choice. providing services to them (which i used to do as a volunteer) only facilitates their cointinued homelessness |
| 06:57.37 | Lunessa | I'm not saying we should be without compassion. I'm just saying we don't have to pay endlessly for the indigent. |
| 06:57.51 | sylvanaar | Juliani did it right - ship 'em "someplace else" |
| 06:58.18 | sylvanaar | which i believe was springfield, Ma |
| 06:58.58 | Shirik | agrees |
| 06:59.06 | Shirik | however healthcare is a little different I think |
| 06:59.10 | sylvanaar | it is |
| 06:59.12 | Shirik | most people don't choose to get sick |
| 06:59.45 | Shirik | again, i'm still on the fence. I cannot completely agree with either Lunessa's or NightHawkTheSane's position, but I also realize making no choice is worse than making one or the other |
| 07:00.00 | Shirik | accordingly, I will go allow my brain to explode now |
| 07:00.44 | Fisker- | Shirik: |
| 07:00.47 | Fisker- | i am so awesome |
| 07:01.37 | Lunessa | Shirik: When thinking about it, challenge all your assumptions. And mine. And Night's. And everyone else's. Don't let appeals to emotion be your only guide. Come to your own conclusion. :D |
| 07:02.09 | NightHawkTheSane | not taking any further part in this, but i agree 100% with ^ |
| 07:03.46 | Shirik | appeals to emotions? |
| 07:03.51 | Shirik | Like I shouldn't care if someone dies? |
| 07:04.02 | Shirik | when it boils down to it, everything is emotion |
| 07:04.05 | durcyn | only if they're poor |
| 07:04.38 | sylvanaar | provide a basic level of care - evenly - to everyone - as a basic human right. the very poor already get free care, so really its the working poor that you subsidize right? |
| 07:04.59 | sylvanaar | or will be |
| 07:07.27 | Lunessa | You know, I wonder when "insurance" became an installment plan for medical care instead of a risk-coverage system. |
| 07:08.38 | sylvanaar | when people became unable to handle the costs of risks they were not covered for |
| 07:09.57 | Lunessa | Hell, insurance pays for most of medical care now - and I pay into the fund every pay-period, and then take out money for incidental care. It seems like that's "not working as designed." |
| 07:11.07 | sylvanaar | thats your money - you are right, and it applies against your deductible which is probably quite high - so you are paying your own medical bills directly from your pre-tax |
| 07:12.00 | Fisker- | this is my lol-face Shirik |
| 07:12.10 | sylvanaar | im assuming you have an hsa |
| 07:12.17 | Lunessa | Yeah, I'm just thinking "this isn't insurance, this is something else + insurance" |
| 07:12.35 | sylvanaar | yeah, its you paying your own bills + insurance |
| 07:12.39 | Lunessa | I have Blue Cross - shockingly good coverage considering how little income I make. |
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| 07:13.12 | sylvanaar | at least its pretax money |
| 07:14.17 | Lunessa | Luckily., |
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| 07:16.06 | Fisker- | anyways Lunessa |
| 07:16.09 | Fisker- | i hate WobWork |
| 07:16.31 | Lunessa | Shirik: I mean don't let people define for you what is and isn't compassionate, etc. Use your own judgment. Don't let someone say "think of the children" or some other appeal to emotion to sway your evaluation. :P |
| 07:16.58 | Shirik | does that mean I'm not a child anymore? :3 |
| 07:17.03 | Lunessa | Fisker Safe to say he probably hates you too. With 1,000 liters of milk |
| 07:17.42 | Lunessa | Shirik: You gave that up when you noticed girls were different and interesting, and wondered where your food came from. :P |
| 07:18.12 | Shirik | haha |
| 07:21.09 | Lunessa | And on that note... I should roll out to bed. Night all. |
| 07:21.16 | Fisker- | healthcare should exclude Shirik |
| 07:21.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:21.49 | Fisker- | :) |
| 07:22.02 | Fisker- | you know you want it |
| 07:22.23 | Fisker- | didn't you know Denmark is like the best fucking country in the wolrd? |
| 07:22.28 | Fisker- | world* |
| 07:22.33 | Shirik | no |
| 07:22.36 | Fisker- | Atleast until venstre fucked it up anyways |
| 07:22.38 | ccox | the best country to F*ck? |
| 07:22.50 | Shirik | I thought it was best country to f*ck in |
| 07:22.55 | ccox | or the best country at F*cking? |
| 07:23.21 | sylvanaar | Shirik i think fisker is sometimes actually a bot (hes in his manual mode now though). How can we prove/disprove this theory |
| 07:23.31 | Fisker- | captchas |
| 07:23.34 | ccox | Shirik: can't be that, all the women are frigid |
| 07:23.34 | Fisker- | and a fuckload of them |
| 07:23.37 | sylvanaar | +53 |
| 07:23.46 | sylvanaar | or 46 |
| 07:23.58 | Shirik | ccox: That is a good thing |
| 07:23.59 | Fisker- | it's awesome though Shirik |
| 07:24.05 | Fisker- | jerks win an election on tax cuts |
| 07:24.18 | Fisker- | which amounts to like less than $5 a month |
| 07:24.29 | sylvanaar | damn +45 |
| 07:24.29 | Fisker- | unless you're fucking rich |
| 07:24.39 | Fisker- | but people are fucking stupid |
| 07:24.45 | Codayus_ | Mmm, health insurance in the US is 1) not really insurance, 2) a crazy way to solve the question of how health care is paid for, and 3) getting crazier as people attempt to solve 2. |
| 07:24.46 | Fisker- | "ZOMG I GET $5 SUCKY SUCKY" |
| 07:24.50 | Shirik | you just figure this out Fisker? |
| 07:25.01 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:25.16 | Shirik | agree, Codayus_ |
| 07:25.22 | Fisker- | socialism = winism |
| 07:25.30 | Shirik | no. |
| 07:25.31 | Codayus_ | Normal approach: Hey, we want everyone to be able to afford to get preventive care. Let's...hmmm...subsidize it out of general tax revenues. |
| 07:26.22 | Shirik | Fisker, do you envy me? |
| 07:26.22 | Fisker- | no |
| 07:26.26 | Shirik | my email says I can be the envy of all guys |
| 07:26.27 | Codayus_ | Crazy approach: Whatever the hell you want to call the US system. It's sure as hell not insurance. |
| 07:26.32 | Shirik | If you do not envy me, then you must not be a guy |
| 07:26.36 | Shirik | sylvanaar: QED. He is a bot. |
| 07:26.40 | Fisker- | or a girl |
| 07:26.43 | sylvanaar | Codayus_ in the past 10 years my insurance premiums have doubled, and they have gone from actually paying for basic care to paying none of the first $2500 of all expenses |
| 07:26.49 | Shirik | You are on IRC. Therefore, you are not a girl. |
| 07:26.55 | Fisker- | good point |
| 07:27.27 | Fisker- | i am a bot |
| 07:27.40 | sylvanaar | which is about my annual healthcare costs if i dont get sick |
| 07:29.21 | Shirik | ew, your co-pay is really that high? |
| 07:29.25 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 07:29.31 | Shirik | My co-pay is 0, but then again I have a really good plan from my parents' work |
| 07:29.31 | sylvanaar | its not a copay |
| 07:29.46 | Codayus_ | sylvanaar: That's not too crazy if it's catastrophic coverage. "Real" insurance covers unexpected events. Like cancer, or getting hit by a bus. Getting a cold isn't unexpected. But catastophic coverage should be pretty cheap. |
| 07:29.56 | Shirik | My health insurance covers glasses up to $500 every 12 months... |
| 07:29.57 | Fisker- | i don't know what the fuck you're talking about |
| 07:30.01 | Fisker- | but i get free health care |
| 07:30.02 | Shirik | with no copay |
| 07:30.02 | Fisker- | ;3 |
| 07:30.36 | Shirik | I went to the place to buy glasses and the guy said to me "wow you can pretty much pick out anything you want here" and then I showed him something and he was like "you can do better than that!" |
| 07:30.37 | sylvanaar | my employer pays $250/mo for my healthcare |
| 07:30.50 | Shirik | and then he jacked up the price by like $100 and got some featherweights |
| 07:30.57 | Shirik | and I still paid $0 :P |
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| 07:31.15 | Codayus_ | Shirik: And people wonder why health care costs seem to be inflating like crazy everywhere... |
| 07:31.18 | Shirik | rofl |
| 07:31.26 | Shirik | that's the insurance provider |
| 07:31.35 | Shirik | basic insurance shouldn't cover that |
| 07:32.00 | Codayus_ | *nod* |
| 07:32.03 | Shirik | I mean, you should be able to pay more for insurance to get better coverage, but basic coverage should be there |
| 07:32.15 | sylvanaar | you cant though |
| 07:32.20 | Shirik | It's not like glasses are only available if you pay $500 |
| 07:32.41 | sylvanaar | get LASIK already |
| 07:32.47 | Shirik | nah |
| 07:32.49 | Codayus_ | It's one of the key drivers of the problem in the US. People don't pay for their own health care. They don't even pay for their own health insurance. In fact, due to the weird tax situation, their employers only pay for part of the health insurance; the government picks up a significant chunk. |
| 07:32.54 | Shirik | I can't justify lasik |
| 07:33.22 | Shirik | There is the possibility my vision could become worse, and my vision is only something like 20/40 or so |
| 07:33.27 | Codayus_ | So there's absolutely zero incentive to keep costs down. And since money going out has to equal money coming in over medium to long time frames...voila, insurance premiums go up like rockets, and everyone wonders WTF is going on. |
| 07:33.33 | Shirik | I can see fine except when I'm trying to read text at distance |
| 07:33.46 | Shirik | Codayus_: NOW you've nailed the problem |
| 07:33.52 | Shirik | there is no incentive to keep costs down |
| 07:34.13 | Shirik | unfortunately, there isn't a good solution to that imo |
| 07:34.15 | Shirik | take pills for example |
| 07:34.16 | DWSR | Your mom has no incentive to keep costs down. |
| 07:34.21 | sylvanaar | well |
| 07:34.23 | Shirik | There is no competition: Patents prevent that. |
| 07:34.36 | Shirik | You can't remove patents, that would be unfair to the developers of the pills. |
| 07:34.37 | DWSR | There's something to be said for the value of IP, though |
| 07:34.57 | sylvanaar | the congress passed that bill preventing the government from negotiating better drug prices |
| 07:35.24 | DWSR | congress is a bunch of nimrods, imo. |
| 07:35.26 | sylvanaar | for medicare covered prescription drugs |
| 07:35.37 | Fisker- | you wouldn't download a viagra pill Shirik |
| 07:35.38 | Codayus_ | (Incidentally, in the US anyhow, the OTHER area with crazy unsustainable cost inflation is: Education. Which is the OTHER area where the consumers mostly don't pay. All the money comes from subsidized loans/grants/parents/etc. By and large; lots of exceptions of course.) |
| 07:36.02 | Shirik | I don't find that to be a coincidence |
| 07:36.05 | Fisker- | patents should be removed, and especially for medical advance |
| 07:36.08 | sylvanaar | education comes from property taxes until college |
| 07:36.18 | DWSR | Codayus_: Rather amazing that Canada doesn't have these problems. |
| 07:36.55 | DWSR | Go socialism, I think. |
| 07:37.01 | Shirik | It's quite simple, when there is no adjustable level of demand, capitalism hits a roadblock |
| 07:37.04 | Codayus_ | (And yeah, I'm talking purely about higher education.) |
| 07:37.06 | Fisker- | highfives DWSR |
| 07:37.13 | Shirik | the fundamental theory of supply vs demand collapses |
| 07:37.27 | Codayus_ | shrugs |
| 07:37.33 | DWSR | On a completely derailing note, |
| 07:37.41 | DWSR | GMs can contact you personally about specific issues? |
| 07:37.43 | sylvanaar | there are certain things that dont lend themselves to free markets |
| 07:37.53 | Shirik | DWSR: Sure, why not? |
| 07:37.54 | DWSR | sylvanaar: Sheeple, for one. |
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| 07:38.06 | Codayus_ | It's a clear case of market failure. And clearly caused by government interference IN those markets. Suggesting the fix is even more government interference is...well, actually not as crazy as it sounds. It's the hybrid approach which is causing issues. |
| 07:38.14 | Codayus_ | So, meh. |
| 07:38.37 | Shirik | we need the FDA |
| 07:38.38 | DWSR | Shirik: Well, I got an e-mail from a GM's Blizzard address, didn't know that they did that. Thought everything would go into a large inbox account and get handled FIFO. |
| 07:38.38 | Shirik | etc. |
| 07:38.48 | Shirik | you cannot remove those strict regulations |
| 07:38.54 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 07:39.05 | DWSR | That's when stuff like unregulated monopolies happen. |
| 07:39.05 | Shirik | And admittedly, that's partially what drives costs up |
| 07:39.14 | Fisker- | DWSR i believe they would usually send from wowgm@blizzard.com |
| 07:39.14 | Shirik | but not to levels where they are now |
| 07:39.17 | Fisker- | or whatever that mail is |
| 07:39.22 | Fisker- | so that seems odd |
| 07:39.28 | DWSR | Fisker: I got one from <gm's name>.wowgm@blizzard.com |
| 07:39.39 | Fisker- | may be a change |
| 07:39.43 | Shirik | DWSR: Check the headers |
| 07:39.50 | Shirik | are you sure it came from them? |
| 07:40.04 | Fisker- | i assume DWSR isn't a stupid n00b |
| 07:40.21 | Fisker- | betray my trust at your own perish |
| 07:40.28 | Shirik | peril? |
| 07:40.29 | DWSR | Shirik: Yep. :) |
| 07:40.38 | Shirik | You probably have a secret admirer then |
| 07:40.43 | Shirik | not so secret anymore though |
| 07:40.44 | Fisker- | i hate you Shirik |
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| 07:41.02 | DWSR | Shirik: Well, I got a ticket elevated to Tech Support. |
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| 07:41.22 | Fisker- | i sometimes get GM's that recognize me from the forums |
| 07:41.23 | DWSR | And he was like "if you have any further problems, I'll send you an e-mail which you can directly reply to and we can follow it up" |
| 07:41.24 | Fisker- | which is scary :o |
| 07:41.40 | Fisker- | even had a blizzard employee impersonate me twice |
| 07:41.52 | Shirik | why would anyone impersonate Fisker |
| 07:41.56 | Shirik | I don't even think purl would do that |
| 07:41.59 | DWSR | So I *suspected* I was just going to get something from like wowgm@blizzard.com and it was just going to get handled by any tech support GM. |
| 07:41.59 | Shirik | ~emulate Fisker |
| 07:42.00 | purl | [emulate fisker] "<reply> OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM" |
| 07:42.03 | Shirik | eh |
| 07:42.06 | Shirik | I guess she would |
| 07:42.06 | DWSR | LOL |
| 07:42.16 | Shirik | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 07:42.17 | purl | [emulate fisker-] DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 07:42.17 | DWSR | But no, I got their work account, so :D |
| 07:42.38 | DWSR | ~emulate DWSR |
| 07:42.41 | DWSR | No? |
| 07:42.43 | DWSR | *shrug* |
| 07:42.46 | Adys | ~emulate self |
| 07:42.54 | Shirik | ~emulate purl |
| 07:42.55 | purl | I shall not be ignored! |
| 07:42.55 | Adys | ~emulate me |
| 07:42.55 | purl | Emulate you? I dont think I can dumb myself down that much! |
| 07:42.55 | DWSR | ~fail Adys |
| 07:42.56 | purl | Adys: FAIL! |
| 07:43.13 | Elkano | oh, seems like M$ finaly shipped the new windows update for vista... |
| 07:43.40 | DWSR | tbh, I would really like someoen to write a mod that parsed chat channels for "toon failed" output from FailBot, and just plays Kologarn's "YOU FAIL" for each fail. |
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| 07:43.50 | DWSR | every one. |
| 07:43.53 | Fisker- | who's M$ Elkano ? |
| 07:44.09 | sylvanaar | DWSR the fail addons already can do that |
| 07:44.14 | Fisker- | Is it some subdivision of Appl£? |
| 07:44.20 | DWSR | sylvanaar: They don't play noises, usually. They just output fail. |
| 07:44.27 | DWSR | I was something that basically is obnoxious. |
| 07:44.32 | DWSR | That way, every time you fail, YOU FUCKING KNOW ABOUT IT. |
| 07:44.44 | DWSR | Just darken your screen to black for like 45 seconds or something. |
| 07:44.48 | sylvanaar | the twins kill emote |
| 07:45.06 | DWSR | I think a simple "Worthless Scrub" from Varian would suffice. |
| 07:45.17 | Fisker- | ~seen Zek |
| 07:45.26 | purl | zek is currently on #wowuidev (7h 48m 47s) #wowace (7h 48m 47s) #curseforge (7h 48m 47s), last said: 'moo'. |
| 07:45.46 | Fisker- | Zek !!!!!!! |
| 07:45.58 | Shirik | DWSR: I wish all the damn 'fail' addons would burn in hell |
| 07:46.03 | DWSR | I don't. |
| 07:46.12 | Shirik | Every time I see some output from one of those, I want to respond with a failure message for having that addon |
| 07:46.14 | DWSR | They're a little overzealous, but not much. |
| 07:46.22 | sylvanaar | just make a channel for them |
| 07:46.27 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 07:46.37 | DWSR | That's what the RL in my guild does. |
| 07:46.41 | sylvanaar | they are just like any other kind of meter |
| 07:46.43 | DWSR | Actually, I think he output's it to /o. |
| 07:46.48 | DWSR | At any rate, it's useful. |
| 07:46.54 | DWSR | Some of the fails are a little =\, I'll admit. |
| 07:47.07 | DWSR | But for ~90% of the time, when failbot says you fail, you fail. |
| 07:47.17 | Shirik | fine, if you put it in a channel that's ok |
| 07:47.22 | Shirik | but not in raid |
| 07:47.34 | sylvanaar | yeah, its obnoxious in raid |
| 07:47.37 | DWSR | I once had a healer stand in the blue fire on 25m Razorscale and heal himself through it, failbot said he failed 25 times during that fight, so I just said "Sorry, no loot". |
| 07:47.37 | Fisker- | i put it in self |
| 07:47.50 | Shirik | DWSR: I've done that before |
| 07:47.54 | DWSR | It's fail, sorry. =\ |
| 07:47.55 | Shirik | Admittedly intentionally |
| 07:47.57 | DWSR | You're paddign meters. |
| 07:47.59 | DWSR | padding* |
| 07:48.00 | Shirik | just because that fight is so boring |
| 07:48.04 | Fisker- | and then you got reported DWSR |
| 07:48.15 | DWSR | Fisker: He QQed to the GM, who just gkicked him. |
| 07:48.37 | DWSR | For that sort of stuff 1) You're padding meters and 2) You could be doing your healing on SOMEONE ELSE? |
| 07:48.52 | DWSR | Or even better 3) If you're really so bored, start swinging that mace. |
| 07:49.00 | DWSR | mace/dagger/staff/whatever. |
| 07:49.00 | Shirik | nah |
| 07:49.04 | Shirik | way too boring :P |
| 07:49.14 | Shirik | If I wasn't standing in fire I would be coding |
| 07:49.19 | DWSR | lol |
| 07:49.28 | DWSR | At the end of the day, if you aren't failing and no one dies, I don't give a shit/. |
| 07:50.00 | DWSR | btw, they going to stealth fix the bug with levitate and fire bombs for Gormok? |
| 07:50.14 | Shirik | ok sleepybye time |
| 07:50.25 | Fisker- | "oh yay" |
| 07:50.34 | Fisker- | MW4 is competively priced until monday! |
| 07:52.32 | Fisker- | takes away Shirik|AFK's keyboard |
| 07:52.39 | Codayus_ | Mmm, some failmeter fails are *extremely* nice to spam in raid. I'm thinking, say, not switching colors for vortex on twin valks. |
| 07:52.46 | Codayus_ | It's all about naming and shaming. :) |
| 07:52.47 | Fisker- | I HAVE REMOVED HIS PORTAL BACK INTO THIS WORLD HOHO |
| 07:53.13 | Fisker- | Let me venture a guess and say tanks are highest on that list Codayus_ |
| 07:53.17 | Fisker- | "No loot for you tanks!" |
| 07:53.27 | Codayus_ | Then again, I was doing Ony today, and someone was spamming as fails every time ANYONE got hit by the fire coming through the cracks on Ony. Oo |
| 07:53.41 | Codayus_ | Fisker-: A good fail meter automatically filters tanks from that. |
| 07:53.52 | Fisker- | a good fail meter doesn't exist |
| 07:53.57 | Codayus_ | (Ony phase 3, that is.) |
| 07:55.30 | Codayus_ | But calling out who got tail swiped is pretty useful. |
| 07:57.32 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11155932907&postId=111544904574&sid=1#4 <-look at me i'm trollin' |
| 07:57.37 | Fisker- | jerk |
| 07:57.38 | Fisker- | ;3 |
| 07:58.11 | Adys | no |
| 07:58.14 | Adys | for once you're not trolling |
| 07:58.23 | Adys | he's an asswad, he deserves asswadry |
| 08:00.12 | Codayus_ | Yeah, actually. |
| 08:00.18 | Codayus_ | I think you should have been ruder., |
| 08:00.30 | Codayus_ | And much nastier. |
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| 08:06.06 | Fisker- | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 08:06.18 | Fisker- | looks like my computer crashed |
| 08:06.19 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 08:08.43 | Wobin | http://bluegorgon.deviantart.com/art/Dapper-Deathwing-141578218 |
| 08:09.22 | Fisker- | Wobin :( |
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| 08:11.00 | Fisker- | i need a link to those google chrome extensions |
| 08:11.01 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:11.44 | Wobin | http://www.chromeextensions.org/appearance-functioning/adblock/ ? |
| 08:12.02 | Fisker- | i love you again |
| 08:18.15 | Wobin | ahahah http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson480.html |
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| 08:20.17 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 08:25.12 | Wobin | also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzygyXR8eUc |
| 08:25.17 | Wobin | has a good beat |
| 08:26.06 | Wobin | ooh Torchlight! |
| 08:27.24 | sylvanaar | Fisker- ensidiafails is supposed to be handling filtering out tank fails. regardless - there is a certain 'use your brain' facor to it |
| 08:27.58 | Fisker- | And all failmeters disallow using your brain |
| 08:28.03 | Fisker- | therefor all failmeters fail |
| 08:28.17 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghQBj6Gfn10 |
| 08:28.19 | Wobin | hm, looks fun |
| 08:28.25 | Wobin | if -very- diabloish |
| 08:29.48 | Kalroth | It is basically Diablo in 3D |
| 08:30.13 | Kalroth | Of course it was the ex-Blizzard developers that made Diablo, that made Torchlight |
| 08:35.08 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:35.57 | Wobin | hm $20 |
| 08:36.50 | Fisker- | 1. is it possible to play wow offline? 2. is it against the lua? 3. if there is nothing against the lua and it is technically possible, is it hard to make it work? 4. If not, where can i find an explanation on how do this? |
| 08:36.55 | Fisker- | the lua |
| 08:36.59 | Fisker- | it controls everything! |
| 08:37.08 | Wobin | I fought the lua and the.. lua won! |
| 08:37.59 | Wobin | anyone played Torchlight yet? |
| 08:38.27 | Fisker- | yes |
| 08:38.39 | Wobin | entertaining? |
| 08:41.23 | Fisker- | I atleast spent the better part of a day playing it |
| 08:41.26 | Fisker- | without even realizing it |
| 08:41.39 | Fisker- | But it seems to be without much story |
| 08:42.48 | Wobin | hm, Trine looks like LittleBigWorld in a fantasy setting |
| 08:44.19 | Wobin | pity Torchlight isn't multiplayer yet |
| 08:44.40 | Wobin | I hope it's not terribly tacked on when it does release as MP |
| 08:46.27 | Wobin | I'm glad AUD and USD are near parity =P |
| 08:51.04 | Corrodias | a story is present, but it's mostly about a distilled diablo-style experience on a relatively small budget. |
| 08:51.15 | Corrodias | and so far i've been quite entertained. |
| 08:52.57 | Fisker- | yeah i know it has one, but it's really hard to get into |
| 08:53.08 | Fisker- | It feels like a Diablo 2'd Diablo 1 in 3D |
| 08:54.27 | _rane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2evIg-aYw8 <3 |
| 08:54.59 | Wobin | _rane, <3 |
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| 08:56.04 | Wobin | oh nice |
| 08:56.18 | Wobin | the steam icon has a green gradient to indicate downloaded amount |
| 08:56.51 | Fisker- | oldoldoldoldold |
| 08:57.18 | Wobin | Fisker-, well, I went from XP to 7 |
| 08:57.57 | Fisker- | oh lord |
| 08:58.08 | Fisker- | The change is like 2 days old anyways |
| 08:58.09 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 08:58.57 | Wobin | _rane, I should totally set this as my ringtone =P |
| 09:01.22 | Wobin | hehe I never sat in Tristam long enough to hear the latter end |
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| 09:02.57 | _rane | brings back memories for sure |
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| 09:07.19 | tem | wow torchlight for just 20 bucks |
| 09:07.24 | tem | I think I'm buying that this weekend |
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| 09:20.16 | Fisker- | oh no |
| 09:23.06 | msoul | Silly question |
| 09:23.24 | msoul | As i started playing wow last march i truly don't know what ppl are talking about when they say "since vanilla" |
| 09:23.40 | msoul | vanilla = TBC or something in that expansion |
| 09:23.47 | stuf | vanilla = pre-TBC |
| 09:23.59 | stuf | i.e. original pre-expansion wow |
| 09:24.12 | msoul | not a ptr? |
| 09:24.13 | _rane | msoul: first step would be to figure out why it's called vanilla :P |
| 09:24.22 | msoul | _rane: hehe |
| 09:24.27 | stuf | nope, vanilla as in version 1.x |
| 09:24.36 | _rane | Vanilla is also commonly used to mean "plain" or "conventional," derived from the use of vanilla extract as the most popular flavoring for ice cream. |
| 09:24.43 | msoul | o i see, the latest patch for 1.x then |
| 09:25.10 | Kalroth | no |
| 09:25.23 | stuf | vanilla generally means all of wow in 1.x, which is pre-TBC and post-beta |
| 09:25.32 | Kalroth | vanilla means retail release of WoW, before TBC, any patch |
| 09:25.42 | msoul | O |
| 09:26.30 | Kalroth | Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, Ahn'Qiraj, Naxxramas |
| 09:26.33 | Fisker- | you guys are all wrong |
| 09:26.36 | Kalroth | all are vanilla instances |
| 09:26.39 | msoul | I wish i played when it came out back then, was into FPS games |
| 09:26.47 | Fisker- | Vanilla is some shit extracted from plants or shit |
| 09:27.00 | msoul | i probably will be playing on the alliance side |
| 09:27.08 | Fisker- | then the extracted shit is used as flavor on for example icecream |
| 09:27.21 | stuf | you can get vanillin also from trees. |
| 09:27.28 | _rane | damn this fiskars guy |
| 09:27.44 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanilla_(disambiguation) fiskersux |
| 09:27.44 | msoul | Druid Vs Shaman who wins?! |
| 09:28.07 | msoul | Shaman undead = sexeh but that wont happen |
| 09:28.30 | msoul | which reminds me, at what lvl a shaman can dw maces/axes or whatever |
| 09:28.39 | _rane | 40 |
| 09:28.56 | msoul | long trip then |
| 09:28.56 | _rane | no, wait |
| 09:28.57 | msoul | thought they lowered it |
| 09:29.14 | _rane | yeah, it's 40 |
| 09:29.35 | msoul | About 2-3 weeks to hit that lvl |
| 09:29.42 | _rane | 2-3 weeks? |
| 09:29.50 | _rane | it took we 3 weeks to hit 80 |
| 09:29.50 | msoul | if not less? :) |
| 09:29.57 | msoul | oi |
| 09:30.12 | msoul | Well i raid whenever i get the chance and do other stuff on my main :) |
| 09:30.19 | Fisker- | are you trolling me Kalroth? |
| 09:30.54 | msoul | planning to be guildless just to level up few chars, afraid of the day that comes that i cannot lvl jc or alchemy as i have no herb/miningas professions |
| 09:31.01 | Kalroth | Fisker-: I have never been insulted like this. Of course I am not trolling you, I would never! |
| 09:31.53 | msoul | by the next expansion are they going to go above 450 skill for professions or just new recipes you guys think |
| 09:32.25 | Kalroth | they'll raise everything |
| 09:32.38 | msoul | one profession i am interested in most, the one you can play with stats i.e. 10 str 15 stam shift few from stam to str |
| 09:32.47 | _rane | msoul: leveling a shaman is pretty painful until 30-40 |
| 09:33.02 | msoul | _rane: with hairlooms :P |
| 09:33.14 | Kalroth | dual wield and feral kitties are <3 |
| 09:33.23 | Fisker- | i think the statshifting thing will be fairly useless |
| 09:33.24 | Fisker- | ;3 |
| 09:33.32 | _rane | you obviously can't use 1h heirlooms until 40 |
| 09:33.41 | Fisker- | unless you can do stuff like hit/expertise to for example strength |
| 09:33.41 | _rane | and getting a 2h heirloom is well, stupid if you don't already have it |
| 09:33.43 | Kalroth | Vanilla Fisker, a Danish psychedelic IRC user |
| 09:34.02 | Fisker- | i think there's an a missing somewhere in that comment Kalroth |
| 09:34.16 | Fisker- | there's not |
| 09:34.18 | Fisker- | curse you |
| 09:34.21 | Kalroth | haaaa |
| 09:35.14 | Kalroth | Fisker-: Feeling the past moving in, letting a new day begin, hold to the time that you know, you don't have to move on to let go |
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| 09:35.59 | Kalroth | Fisker-: remember how it was with you, remember how you pulled me through, I remember |
| 09:36.09 | Fisker- | i want to kill you |
| 09:36.39 | Kalroth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ&fmt=18 too good |
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| 09:41.34 | Wobin | bah |
| 09:41.36 | Wobin | even as a melee |
| 09:41.40 | Wobin | I still am a ranged at heart |
| 09:41.51 | Wobin | equips his warrior with two guns |
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| 09:42.58 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:43.14 | Wobin | restarts as a Vanquisher |
| 09:43.38 | Kalroth | ranged is easier too, you just dump your mana pool into a crowd and spend 15 seconds looting |
| 09:43.51 | Wobin | Or send your pet to do the looting =) |
| 09:43.53 | Wobin | I really like that |
| 09:44.15 | Kalroth | I like to keep vendor stuff only on the pet |
| 09:44.23 | Kalroth | so I can send it off when it's full |
| 09:44.33 | Wobin | are the fish any use? |
| 09:44.43 | Wobin | so far the pet is just a packmule |
| 09:45.05 | Wobin | except doesn't get crushed by lifts |
| 09:45.57 | DWSR | Kalroth: Awesome tune, btw. |
| 09:46.52 | DWSR | I really hope that Blizzard fixes pet pathing eventually. |
| 09:47.08 | DWSR | Like, if you jump off of a cliff, the pet should just follow you, even if there is possibly another way down that doesn't involve jumping |
| 09:47.23 | Kalroth | haha, we had a nice wipe the other day |
| 09:47.32 | Kalroth | in Old Kingdoms instance |
| 09:48.03 | Kalroth | We jumped off the side, to get to the poison dude. The warlocks imp happily jumped around, pulling 4-5 packs with it. |
| 09:48.10 | DWSR | yep |
| 09:48.16 | DWSR | Same with nexus. |
| 09:48.30 | DWSR | Additionally, the jump after Ormok just causes your pet to despawn |
| 09:48.56 | DWSR | Slightly frustrating as a lock, probably moreso as a hunter. |
| 09:49.19 | Kalroth | Making pet dismiss a faster cast would help some |
| 09:49.48 | DWSR | making it refund your soulshard would be nice. |
| 09:50.24 | DWSR | which is why I just let my feltard range me, then I get the shard back |
| 09:51.23 | DWSR | pop Fel Dom and g2g. |
| 09:51.34 | DWSR | a 10sec cast to revive your pet is pretty annoying though |
| 09:57.20 | DWSR | I want meta as a permanent form .:( |
| 09:59.41 | msoul | Funny to hear french talk english :P |
| 10:00.03 | msoul | I 'ave ZE |
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| 11:00.27 | bleeter | It's a fucking shithole... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRd_vZT6zPY |
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| 11:01.52 | bleeter | damn fisker wasn't here... |
| 11:01.59 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRd_vZT6zPY |
| 11:08.55 | Zhinjio | incoming baby picture alert: http://bit.ly/3McVwk |
| 11:09.37 | p3lim | wut |
| 11:14.22 | Stanzilla | Zhinjio: haha awesome :) really cute |
| 11:14.30 | Zhinjio | *smiles* |
| 11:14.47 | Zhinjio | you only get to put them into the costumes of *your own* choosing for a few years before they want to pick their own |
| 11:14.51 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 11:19.16 | bleeter | Zhinjio: lol http://is.gd/4I1w9 |
| 11:19.28 | Zhinjio | hahaha |
| 11:19.29 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 11:19.32 | Zhinjio | I was instigating her |
| 11:19.59 | Zhinjio | she makes a scrunched up face and sort of "hisses" air at you, and I was trying to get her to do it for the camera |
| 11:20.06 | Zhinjio | it ... caught me instigating just as much as her doing it |
| 11:20.07 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 11:20.25 | Zhinjio | I love that picture |
| 11:20.32 | bleeter | I like how on yer blog you say she can say 'wow' hahahaha |
| 11:20.51 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 11:21.10 | Zhinjio | yesterday or the day before she added "water" and "apple juice" to her wordlist |
| 11:21.27 | Zhinjio | her pronunciation is gettign way better |
| 11:22.36 | Fisker | screw you bleeter |
| 11:22.47 | bleeter | fucking shithole |
| 11:22.50 | Fisker | YEAH |
| 11:23.03 | Fisker | When i click your link i get "Oh noes google has crashed, do you want to restart?" |
| 11:23.15 | Fisker | But it doesn't really crash |
| 11:23.18 | Fisker | it just won't open your url |
| 11:26.28 | bleeter | u suck |
| 11:55.59 | Fisker | looks at Dotted |
| 11:56.41 | Dotted | ignores Fisker |
| 11:57.11 | Fisker | declares victory |
| 11:58.53 | DWSR | so...wtf? |
| 11:59.03 | DWSR | The Disenchant option requires you to have an enchanter in your group? |
| 11:59.05 | DWSR | Gay. |
| 11:59.10 | Fisker | DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 11:59.28 | DWSR | Fisker: I'm talking about the UI option. That's fucking gay, tbh. |
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| 12:01.28 | Fisker | i know you are |
| 12:01.31 | Fisker | and it's still durr |
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| 12:05.37 | Aelobin | could anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong here? trying to create a fauxscrollframe: http://www.pastey.net/127340-1c4g |
| 12:05.51 | Aelobin | getting the error: Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:238: Usage: UA_Scroll_FrameScrollBar:SetValue(value) |
| 12:06.55 | Aelobin | oooh wait i think i see it |
| 12:07.04 | DWSR | Aelobin: Teddy bear? :) |
| 12:07.10 | Aelobin | wut :o |
| 12:07.40 | DWSR | The story of some professor who got so pissed off at his students always coming up to him with questions and then answering them themselves half way through explaining it. |
| 12:07.54 | DWSR | So basically, he said that if you wanted to ask him a question, you had to ask this teddy bear that he put on his desk. |
| 12:07.55 | Aelobin | hehe, i guess that sums me up pretty much :P |
| 12:08.00 | Aelobin | haha |
| 12:09.42 | Aelobin | have i done that a lot recently? :o |
| 12:09.52 | DWSR | Aelobin: No, just reminds me. |
| 12:09.59 | Aelobin | hehe |
| 12:19.56 | krka | it's called rubber ducking more commonly |
| 12:22.13 | Kalroth | rubbers krkas ducky |
| 12:22.57 | bleeter | http://twitpic.com/ni1gf |
| 12:23.22 | Kalroth | wtf |
| 12:23.39 | Kalroth | I want to be him when I'm old |
| 12:25.54 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.54 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.54 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.30 | mikma | shirik|afk: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/10/aha_so_thats_how_twins_are_mad.php |
| 12:31.43 | Kalroth | isn't that a mac key? |
| 12:31.55 | Kalroth | those kids are going to be so fucked up when they grow up |
| 12:32.15 | olafski | definitely |
| 12:34.23 | mikma | yes, poor bastards. |
| 12:38.16 | Aelobin | with CheckButtons, do you use OnClick or is there another hook? |
| 12:41.41 | fl1st4r | anyone can tell me why i always get 2 frame up when i try this ... http://wowuidev.pastey.net/127332 |
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| 12:42.44 | mikma | what two frames? exactly like each other? |
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| 12:51.49 | Wobin | http://www.teefury.com/ |
| 12:52.38 | Wobin | fl1st4r, cause... um. you -create- two frames? |
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| 12:58.11 | Sarkp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efWjDDQZDK4&feature=popt00us16 |
| 13:08.19 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/l4d/witchencroacher.wav |
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| 13:22.37 | Lopeppeppy | Bwah-hah-ha! Happy Halloweeeeeen! |
| 13:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | Early. |
| 13:24.58 | Sarkp | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 13:25.19 | Lopeppeppy | My hero! I didn't think anyone else would be up early enough to read that too. :) |
| 13:25.53 | Sarkp | bows |
| 13:29.40 | Sarkp | Sindragosa looks similar to Sapph |
| 13:29.47 | Sarkp | the fight |
| 13:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | all dragons look alike to me. |
| 13:30.46 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy, right on time imo |
| 13:32.57 | Lopeppeppy | why thanks |
| 13:34.22 | cogwheel | Wobin's in the future imo |
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| 13:39.55 | cogwheel | just rescued a squirrel from a wolf so he could /love it. Then he blasted it with Icy Touch |
| 13:40.10 | Wobin | Nature is such a harsh mistress |
| 13:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | meanie |
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| 13:55.16 | Ackis | penis |
| 13:55.46 | Sarkp | dick |
| 13:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | guys, be nice. |
| 13:56.01 | Ackis | peter |
| 13:56.04 | Lopeppeppy | Talk about daisies, or I'll wash yoour mouths out with soap. |
| 13:56.16 | Sarkp | paul |
| 13:56.22 | Ackis | james |
| 13:56.32 | Sarkp | potter |
| 13:56.38 | Ackis | harry |
| 13:56.46 | Sarkp | james |
| 13:56.52 | Ackis | ... |
| 13:56.57 | Ackis | ~fail Sarkp |
| 13:56.58 | purl | Sarkp: FAIL! |
| 13:57.06 | Ackis | YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAY BALLS |
| 13:57.17 | Sarkp | pfft |
| 13:57.31 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: Torhal- and I were talking about you last night |
| 13:58.08 | Ackis | he said you were wise with wisdom of sheeple |
| 13:58.13 | Ackis | and I went lulz |
| 13:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | ~lart Ackis |
| 13:58.55 | purl | slaps Ackis upside the head with a wet fish |
| 13:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | Dude. I've been wrangling sheeple since I was 15, in one form or another! |
| 13:59.55 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 13:59.55 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Sesshu feel it |
| 14:00.12 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/MMOUI/wow-ui-devs yay twitter dev list! |
| 14:01.42 | Sesshu | wtf |
| 14:01.53 | Sesshu | ~lart purl |
| 14:01.53 | purl | calls sesshu on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 14:02.01 | Ackis | lol |
| 14:08.53 | Ackis | oh halo waypoint sounds interesting |
| 14:09.09 | Ackis | it's linking all the halo games into a central location |
| 14:09.16 | Ackis | I think I might have to start playing this halo game eh? |
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| 14:18.49 | zenzelezz | is nice to Lopeppeppy |
| 14:19.02 | Ackis | lies |
| 14:19.29 | zenzelezz | ask her yourself |
| 14:19.43 | zenzelezz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-x9ygQEGA <--- "Total eclipse of the heart" will never be the same again |
| 14:19.52 | Lopeppeppy | He totallly mostly is. |
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| 14:24.30 | Ackis | Publisher of the Year - Activision/Blizzard |
| 14:25.45 | Ackis | PC Game of the Year - Fallout 3 |
| 14:26.04 | Ackis | Online Game of the Year - Left 4 Dead |
| 14:26.15 | Stanzilla | Failtard of the Year - Ackis |
| 14:26.16 | Ackis | Multiplayer Game of the Year - COD:WaW |
| 14:26.30 | Kalroth | Ackis of the Year - Ackis |
| 14:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | Icecream of the Year: Mint Chip |
| 14:26.37 | Ackis | so how can online be diff than mutliplayer? and why isn't any of them from blizz? |
| 14:26.48 | Ackis | Those are the golden joystick awards |
| 14:29.07 | zenzelezz | "Mullet with headlights?" |
| 14:29.17 | zenzelezz | that video kicks ass |
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| 14:30.18 | Ackis | Fallout 3 wins Ultimate Game of the Year |
| 14:32.43 | Ackis | so no WoW at all eh? |
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| 14:34.13 | Lopeppeppy | Not directly, but "Activision/Blizzard", hello |
| 14:34.51 | Ackis | excuses! |
| 14:35.03 | Ackis | just shows wow isn't a game, it's an addiction! |
| 14:35.15 | Lopeppeppy | bah humbug. |
| 14:35.20 | Lopeppeppy | Shows that WoW isn't a game, it's a way of life. |
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| 14:37.10 | Ackis | collides Seerah's nick with the big super collider world ender thingy. |
| 14:37.33 | Seerah | wishes her computer would behave and not shut down randomly |
| 14:37.56 | Ackis | http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/6820/1/ |
| 14:38.24 | Ackis | happy Halloween peeps |
| 14:38.38 | Ackis | apparently aussies don't celebrate it |
| 14:39.18 | Sarkp | hellooooooooo http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/yankees_babes_vs_phillies_babes_EWrlzdhuUVa4RKaKEhM7KP?photo_num=12 |
| 14:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Peeeeep! |
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| 14:43.45 | Ackis | http://shogungamer.com/news/god-war-3-ultimate-edition-annonced look at the box of that ultimate edition, looks kinda wicked |
| 14:43.52 | Ackis | I wonder if a cat would fit in it? |
| 14:45.18 | Sarkp | CoD4 40% off on steam |
| 14:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | Cats can fit into pringles cans, they can fit into boxes. |
| 14:45.56 | haste | I'm positive both of the cats here can't fit into pringles cans! |
| 14:46.12 | haste | one of them even got stuck in the baby fence we used to have at the stairs here |
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| 14:51.43 | olafski | ackis: did you see the dantes inferno "wrath" box? |
| 14:52.30 | Sarkp | ... why would there be a rip of WotLK? |
| 14:53.04 | olafski | who says it's a "rip of" when it just has one word in common? |
| 14:53.29 | Sarkp | what? |
| 14:53.59 | olafski | indeed |
| 15:03.04 | ckknight | hey, who wants to go in on the 4-pack of Borderlands? we just need 1 more person. i.e. you send me $37.50, I'll send you the code that would normally cost $49.99 |
| 15:03.57 | Kalroth | hrmf, I'd need to install Steam for that |
| 15:04.01 | ckknight | true |
| 15:04.02 | Kalroth | I've been wanting to buy it though |
| 15:04.17 | Kalroth | Isn't there a shelf box too? |
| 15:04.25 | Kalroth | I prefer my shit without DRM |
| 15:04.29 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 15:05.03 | Ackis | olafski: nein, do you have a link? |
| 15:06.31 | Ackis | man halloween costumes can make the most average woman look like a sexy biatch |
| 15:07.29 | bleeter | ima link it again cuz so awesumz http://twitpic.com/ni1gf |
| 15:08.22 | olafski | sec |
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| 15:10.00 | olafski | ackis: http://chud.com/articles/articles/21294/1/DANTE039S-INFERNO-RICKROLLS-CHUDCOM/Page1.html |
| 15:12.24 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7RXzIKuc8 |
| 15:12.32 | bleeter | nsfw |
| 15:14.41 | Ackis | lol olafski wicked marketing |
| 15:14.55 | olafski | yeah :P |
| 15:15.08 | cog|work | Owah ah ah ah |
| 15:15.12 | cog|work | gets down with the sickness |
| 15:15.20 | olafski | still I had never heard of that game before today |
| 15:16.11 | Ackis | I've heard about it a bit, just recently now |
| 15:16.19 | Ackis | owah ah ah ah? wtf? |
| 15:18.07 | cog|work | Ackis: your mother get up, come on get down with the sickness |
| 15:18.32 | cog|work | Ackis: lern2daylightsavingtime imo |
| 15:18.55 | Ackis | my computers do it magically for me |
| 15:19.02 | Ackis | plus you damn americans keep on changing it |
| 15:19.40 | cog|work | it's not like it even has any effect... Most studies disagree with each other, and even when they don't the effect is minimal |
| 15:20.04 | olafski | what effect do you think 1 more hour of sunlight will have on the wildlife! |
| 15:20.07 | Ackis | what effect are you talking about? |
| 15:20.10 | cog|work | olafski: lol |
| 15:20.22 | cog|work | Ackis: the reason we changed it was supposedly to reduce our energy consumption |
| 15:20.25 | cog|work | go figure... |
| 15:20.28 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:20.30 | Ackis | yah that's bullshit |
| 15:20.40 | Ackis | what it does is increase the number of accidents on the monday after |
| 15:20.57 | Ackis | I also had read somewhere that it was done to help with war time "black outs" |
| 15:21.29 | cog|work | I had a racist friend who was always complaining about chinese drivers. Of course it's worse when daylight saving changes 'cause they all get disoriented |
| 15:21.38 | cog|work | ~rimshot |
| 15:21.38 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 15:21.48 | olafski | http://130.89.168.156/misc/index.php?a=sIm&url=./misc/ArkansasLetter.jpg&o=28 <-- dst, I think it was posted here before though :) |
| 15:21.59 | olafski | some of the links are nsfw by the way |
| 15:22.18 | Ackis | cog|work: complaining about chinese drivers doesn't make you racist :P |
| 15:22.41 | Ackis | http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/033f0003-0000-4000-8000-00004d53084d <-- free forze motorsport 3 theme |
| 15:23.02 | cog|work | Ackis: no, but it was only one example among many :P |
| 15:23.09 | olafski | you and your free stuff ackis.. you could as well be Dutch! |
| 15:23.24 | cog|work | I actually got him in trouble with one of his asian friends by asking if there really was such a thing as DWC (driving while chinese) |
| 15:23.28 | cog|work | (I was 11 at the time) |
| 15:23.57 | Ackis | olafski: don't you mean scottish? they're cheap bastards. Same with jews too. |
| 15:24.07 | Ackis | (see what I'm doing here? mocking stereotypes) |
| 15:24.15 | olafski | so are dutch people apparently |
| 15:24.26 | Ackis | I'm a puke |
| 15:24.36 | olafski | classic jokes such as "what did the dutch family order as drinks on holiday?" "a diet coke with 4 straws" |
| 15:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | I need a brief confirmation from an apple user.... Apple-C is Copy, Apple-X is Cut, Apple-V is paste? |
| 15:28.36 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: i don't think any mac users are awake yet :> |
| 15:28.56 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:29.06 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, suckage. And I don't have a mac in my office. I hate being requires to support sheeple on their macs and not friggin' having one. |
| 15:29.07 | bleeter | lies |
| 15:29.12 | bleeter | apple users are never awake |
| 15:29.20 | bleeter | they're zombies lining jobs' pockets |
| 15:30.02 | bleeter | which weighs him down lots |
| 15:30.10 | bleeter | hence, he looks bloody terribad |
| 15:31.14 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: confirmation received |
| 15:31.18 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: "yup" |
| 15:31.19 | Kaelten | Lopeppeppy: ya they're the same as on windows, except using cmd/apl instead of cntrl |
| 15:31.21 | Ackis | that's from Kaelten |
| 15:31.24 | Ackis | oh |
| 15:31.25 | Ackis | he's here |
| 15:31.26 | Ackis | bastard |
| 15:31.28 | Aelobin | hmm after creating one "InputBoxTemplate" EditBox, the next ones i create have no middle 0_o like they just look like [ ] |
| 15:31.30 | Ackis | ~lart Kaelten |
| 15:31.30 | purl | wallops Kaelten with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 15:31.41 | Kaelten | ~lart Ackis |
| 15:31.41 | purl | moos at Ackis |
| 15:31.49 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 15:31.49 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on ScytheBlade1 and turns ScytheBlade1 into a brick |
| 15:31.59 | Ackis | my shaving accident is healing |
| 15:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Kaelten. That's what I thought. |
| 15:35.47 | Kaelten | np |
| 15:35.48 | Kaelten | :) |
| 15:36.13 | bleeter | so question for all you Windows Vista and 7 users out there, have they fixed the LocalTime RTC yet? (bottom of http://is.gd/4Ieo0 ) |
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| 15:43.04 | cog|work | bleeter: doesn't look like it... my bios' clock is at 8:43am right now |
| 15:44.07 | cog|work | unless i misinterpreted something... |
| 15:45.29 | Ackis | updated his facebook profile pic! I R SEXAY |
| 15:45.51 | cog|work | definitely noticed an improvement |
| 15:45.56 | bleeter | cog|work: my understanding was set the registry, set the bios, boot n pray ... |
| 15:46.04 | bleeter | genuinely shrugs, tbh |
| 15:46.16 | Ackis | ~lart cog|work |
| 15:46.16 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks cog|work over |
| 15:46.18 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 15:46.19 | purl | burns SNiLD to a crisp with a laser |
| 15:46.29 | bleeter | Ackis: needs more green |
| 15:46.46 | cog|work | runs regedit |
| 15:47.50 | Cairenn | Ackis: rofl, nice pic :p |
| 15:48.07 | bleeter | cog|work: tbh going to bed, lemme know. I've mailed that guy see if he's heard anything. don't stress ;) |
| 15:48.36 | Ackis | Cairenn: you think my tractor's sexy? |
| 15:48.55 | Cairenn | tractor? |
| 15:49.15 | cog|work | bleeter: win7 boots fast :P |
| 15:49.21 | cog|work | seems to be working |
| 15:49.40 | Ackis | Cairenn: it's a song line |
| 15:49.45 | Cairenn | okay |
| 15:50.22 | Cairenn | sorry, not a hick, don't know your country songs |
| 15:50.24 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 15:50.28 | Ackis | :O |
| 15:50.46 | Cairenn | teases Ackis |
| 15:51.16 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2KmzFABujM |
| 15:51.22 | Ackis | I'm not a hick! I have OILLLLLL |
| 15:51.25 | Ackis | ahahahah |
| 15:51.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 15:52.23 | bleeter | cog|work: interesting, course the cited article indicates WIndows can't update the clock if it's in UTC... but I guess it's a start? g'night :) |
| 15:52.40 | cog|work | nn |
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| 15:58.56 | Ackis | ~seen fisker |
| 15:58.58 | purl | fisker <i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3h 57m 27s ago, saying: 'and it's still durr'. |
| 15:59.03 | Ackis | :( |
| 16:00.38 | olafski | if virtualplates can change the size of nameplates, would that mean you could have DBM scale the nameplates of say.. the emalon adds based on which one is overcharged? |
| 16:00.47 | Shadowed | no |
| 16:01.07 | Shadowed | One is based off generic nameplate data, the other is based off very specific |
| 16:01.16 | Ackis | hmm What do sexy nurses wear for Halloween? |
| 16:01.30 | olafski | what color do smurfs turn when they choke? ;) |
| 16:03.08 | Pneumatus | purple |
| 16:03.25 | mikma | scytheblade1: PING! |
| 16:07.27 | olafski | why do people who like country music have to be hicks :( |
| 16:07.57 | olafski | (what kind of music do you play here? oh, we have both kinds. both kinds? yes, country AND western!) |
| 16:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | m'scuse? |
| 16:08.11 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think I'm a hick. |
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| 16:08.51 | olafski | I don't think I am either :P |
| 16:11.06 | Cairenn | I was just teasing Ackis, he'd think I didn't love him any more if I didn't :) |
| 16:11.12 | olafski | ok :} |
| 16:11.46 | Cairenn | and on that note, and given that it's noon and I've yet to sleep ... |
| 16:12.29 | Lopeppeppy | nigh tnight |
| 16:19.31 | Adys | http://stonemakerargument.com/5.html |
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| 16:41.03 | Ackis | so quiet today |
| 16:41.05 | Ackis | I blame Lopeppeppy |
| 16:41.27 | Ackis | and apparently they have 2TB drives now |
| 16:41.39 | durcyn | if by 'now' you mean 'months ago', you are correct |
| 16:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | bite me. |
| 16:41.50 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather be entertained, but nobody loves me enough to come distract me. |
| 16:41.53 | Ackis | bites Lopeppeppy |
| 16:41.58 | Lopeppeppy | I'm left all alone in my office, wasting away to nothing. |
| 16:41.58 | Ackis | tastes like chicken |
| 16:42.01 | Ackis | durcyn: o rly? |
| 16:42.12 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: go to facebook and laugh at my pictures :P |
| 16:44.19 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, go pull the fire alarm, thats destracting |
| 16:44.23 | Thunder_Child | distracting* |
| 16:44.32 | alestane | nourishes Lopeppeppy. |
| 16:45.16 | alestane | Anyway, I must away and pick up computer parts. |
| 16:48.22 | Shirik|AFK | what the heck |
| 16:48.23 | Shirik|AFK | my configuration is very broken |
| 16:48.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, parts! |
| 16:48.31 | Lopeppeppy | What config, Shirik? |
| 16:48.33 | Shirik | nm |
| 16:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | What pictures, Ackis? |
| 16:48.42 | Shirik | it just took a year to download all the messages I missed |
| 16:48.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I see. |
| 16:49.32 | Shirik | and seriously, I have to keep asking this |
| 16:49.34 | Shirik | so stupid |
| 16:49.37 | Lopeppeppy | we're not allowed to wear anything that would conceal the face/identity, or frighten the kids at the daycare |
| 16:49.38 | Shirik | what the heck is wow china's address? |
| 16:49.46 | Shirik | official site |
| 16:50.05 | Shirik | google is convinced it's wowchina.com, which it's not |
| 16:50.09 | Shirik | and I can't find the real one |
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| 16:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | http://wow.163.com/? |
| 16:53.02 | Shirik | I guess that's the same as warcraftchina.com |
| 16:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | this? http://tw.blizzard.com/zh-tw/company/index.html |
| 16:53.03 | Shirik | gah |
| 16:53.18 | Shirik | stupid old company is holding onto wowchina.com because they're being crybabies |
| 16:53.26 | Shirik | Sometimes I wonder how China operates at all |
| 16:54.13 | Lopeppeppy | Wowvault swears it's wowchina.com too. Hmm. |
| 16:54.51 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:55.11 | Shirik | I'm going to make my first change to wowwiki in about 2.5 years |
| 16:55.14 | Lopeppeppy | NetEase has launched its interim official website http://wow.163.com/ for World of Warcraft. We'll continue to give attention to this event. |
| 16:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | http://news.mmosite.com/content/2009-04-16/20090416023457903.shtml |
| 16:55.26 | Lopeppeppy | So I guess the first link I found was correct |
| 16:55.45 | Ackis | Shirik: nerd |
| 16:56.41 | Shirik | Thanks for your edit. Can you improve this related article? Deflect. |
| 16:56.48 | Shirik | How the hell is "Deflect" related to "Official Sites" |
| 16:57.00 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: They seem to go to the same place |
| 16:57.13 | Shirik | ~dns wow.163.com |
| 16:57.17 | Shirik | ~dns warcraftchina.com |
| 16:59.46 | Lopeppeppy | redirect is your friend |
| 17:00.42 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:00.59 | Shirik | thwacks Fisker |
| 17:01.05 | Fisker | cries |
| 17:01.09 | Fisker | why are you so EVIL Shirik ? |
| 17:01.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:04.03 | Thunder_Child | why are you so nice Fisker? |
| 17:04.28 | Fisker | i'm awesome |
| 17:04.29 | Fisker | that's why |
| 17:05.06 | Shirik | wtf, there's a wikipedia in esperanto? |
| 17:05.55 | Lopeppeppy | hilarous |
| 17:06.05 | Lopeppeppy | Hilarious, even, when I can spell properly |
| 17:07.15 | Seerah | oo ee oo ah ah ching chang walla walla bing bang! |
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| 17:07.40 | Ackis | so I had to change my network topology last night :( |
| 17:07.48 | Ackis | my PC is now connected via wireless |
| 17:07.49 | Ackis | :'( |
| 17:08.15 | Ackis | and I have to broadcast my SSID and can only use WPA |
| 17:08.27 | Ackis | and now I had to turn on "administer router via wireless" |
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| 17:08.42 | Lopeppeppy | They're coming to take me away, ha ha! To the funny farm! |
| 17:09.12 | Seerah | huggles Lopeppeppy <3 :D |
| 17:09.38 | zenzelezz | where life is beautiful all the time? |
| 17:09.52 | Seerah | indeed |
| 17:10.07 | Lopeppeppy | And I'll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats. |
| 17:10.41 | Ackis | s/in their clean white coats././ |
| 17:10.46 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:10.49 | Thunder_Child | no one who is nice has ever become awesome Fisker |
| 17:11.31 | Shirik | tickles Seerah |
| 17:11.37 | Seerah | tackles Shirik |
| 17:15.14 | Fisker | Shiriks Shirik |
| 17:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | curls into a ball to avoid the pain of tackle-footsball! |
| 17:17.01 | Shirik | LMAO. Students complaining about IT that screwed up our spam filter |
| 17:17.04 | Shirik | and I see this |
| 17:17.11 | Shirik | Used gmail's spam filter so that every message that is from the new email account marked as spam goes to helpdesk@erau.edu |
| 17:17.16 | Shirik | IT's not going to be happy with him >< |
| 17:17.38 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof. |
| 17:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | Totally proved a quick point though, huh? |
| 17:18.35 | Lopeppeppy | My help desk guy would kick my ass if I pulled that. |
| 17:18.43 | Lopeppeppy | Though they do generally like me. |
| 17:20.13 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 17:20.26 | foxlit | I have a strong suspicion Tochlight's dungeon generation cheats. |
| 17:20.36 | Shirik | IT already hates me, I can't pull off stuff like that safely |
| 17:21.09 | Fisker | i almost got expelled once for noticing a worm on a server |
| 17:21.18 | Fisker | Because apparently i was looking at a server i should not |
| 17:21.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:21.29 | Fisker | Because browsing through workgroups is srs business |
| 17:21.37 | foxlit | Given the level size, it's extremely odd that you're virtually never stuck looking for an exit because you took a wrong fork somewhere. |
| 17:21.40 | Lopeppeppy | I have many permissions to many servers that I should not. *innocent* |
| 17:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | They got tired of having to do things for me. |
| 17:22.06 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 17:22.15 | Fisker | That still doesn't beat another school i went to |
| 17:22.34 | Fisker | They got a user database from a government system and integrated that into the AD |
| 17:22.44 | Fisker | At the same time they had like a plaintext log of it |
| 17:22.48 | Fisker | Complete with all information |
| 17:22.54 | Fisker | Also accessible for the public |
| 17:23.20 | Fisker | When i told them about it they apparently had it for convenience to troubleshoot user problems |
| 17:23.24 | Fisker | and i'm like "teh fucK?" |
| 17:24.44 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:32.40 | fl1st4r | i try make my frame in lua, when i SetText() my checkbox i got an error in WoW, anyone can help me plz. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/127352 Error: Message: Interface\AddOns\RogerRabbit\RogerRabbit.lua:49: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 17:32.59 | foxlit | Your checkbutton has no name |
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| 17:33.06 | foxlit | So :GetName() returns nil |
| 17:33.13 | foxlit | You may not concatenate nil and strings. |
| 17:33.37 | Ackis | I found the administrator password for the entire network in a plain text file once during a security audit |
| 17:33.39 | NightHawkTheSane | concatenates nil and foxlit |
| 17:33.42 | Ackis | my anus clinched |
| 17:33.54 | foxlit | implements __concat. |
| 17:34.43 | Thunder_Child | you mean clenched? |
| 17:34.51 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: no it clinched |
| 17:35.04 | Ackis | entirely unrelated to the story I was telling |
| 17:35.07 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, what did it hold firmly to? |
| 17:35.07 | Ackis | I just have to poop |
| 17:35.13 | Ackis | and I clinched a turtle head |
| 17:35.13 | fl1st4r | ^^ thx foxlit ;) |
| 17:35.15 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:36.04 | Ackis | I am so weird |
| 17:36.32 | Shirik | Ackis: tmi |
| 17:37.20 | Ackis | Shirik: just wait til I pin you while on the toilet :P |
| 17:37.36 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:37.44 | Ackis | :D |
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| 17:43.58 | NightHawkTheSane | man, intelligent tab completion isducking win when you need to code without an index dingwe |
| 17:44.07 | NightHawkTheSane | fucking* finger* |
| 17:46.03 | Lopeppeppy | where did you leave it? |
| 17:46.15 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 17:46.23 | NightHawkTheSane | its on my hand, but wrapped in bandages |
| 17:46.40 | Ackis | Fisker: http://www.cracked.com/funny-2724-trolls/ |
| 17:48.29 | Lopeppeppy | What did you do to it? |
| 17:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | I cut the tip of my finger rather deeply when I dropped a glass milk bottle last night. |
| 17:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | went to the ER, got 5 stitches in it. |
| 17:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | did you try to catch it? Or cut yourself picking it up again? |
| 17:53.29 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i just dropped it, it broke, and next thing i know, oh shit my finger's bleeding. I'm a bit fuzzy on exactly how that happened :P |
| 17:54.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it hit the edge of the fridge and broke, and my hand hit a shard or something. |
| 17:54.32 | Lopeppeppy | silly bear. *hug* |
| 17:54.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry you got hurt, I hope it gets better fast. |
| 17:54.59 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks :) |
| 18:06.54 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
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| 18:07.50 | Arrowmaster | and i was thinking my hand was hurting from bruising my wrist kinda badly yesterday |
| 18:08.49 | Lopeppeppy | What did you do? |
| 18:09.00 | Lopeppeppy | And what is up with the clumsy code monkeys, you guys, jeez? |
| 18:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | wraps everyone in cotton wool. |
| 18:09.11 | Arrowmaster | trying to move a large chair through a rather small doorway |
| 18:09.53 | Lopeppeppy | owies. |
| 18:09.58 | Arrowmaster | my grandma keeps falling and cant get up so we got her one of those motorized lift chairs |
| 18:12.11 | Torhal- | Seerah: Hilarious. |
| 18:12.19 | Seerah | hmm? |
| 18:12.20 | Torhal- | I had no idea you were a troll... |
| 18:12.25 | Torhal- | :D |
| 18:12.31 | Seerah | i no rite? :) |
| 18:13.14 | Seerah | should instruct him to read through my 6k+ posts :p |
| 18:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 18:16.11 | Fisker | slaps Seerah around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:16.30 | Seerah | ohhh... now I'm gonna have fish smell stuck in my nose :( |
| 18:16.57 | Thunder_Child | lesbian? |
| 18:17.05 | Seerah | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 18:17.05 | purl | teaches Thunder_Child that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 18:17.17 | zenzelezz | how clever, TC |
| 18:17.31 | NightHawkTheSane | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2704/4058201233_1b396e4c2b_o.png |
| 18:17.35 | Thunder_Child | how droll zenzelezz |
| 18:18.01 | zenzelezz | if *I* can manage to not make a sexual joke out of something, so can you |
| 18:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | nuh-uh |
| 18:19.57 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:19.59 | Ackis | is there anyway to see when a domain name will expire? |
| 18:20.07 | Arrowmaster | whois lookup |
| 18:20.24 | Thunder_Child | eats Fisker's other other other other other trout |
| 18:20.32 | Torhal- | Ackis: You trying to get iarebeastrawr.com? |
| 18:21.25 | Seerah|away | heads off to work then dinner and Lewis Black show! :) |
| 18:21.26 | Ackis | Torhal: hehe :P |
| 18:21.33 | Ackis | so it's saying: Record expired on 2010/6/10 |
| 18:21.42 | Ackis | that means june 10 or oct 6? :P |
| 18:22.06 | Ackis | mutters about everyone and their dog having their own date convention |
| 18:22.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: probably june 6 |
| 18:22.41 | Torhal | Ackis: ?!? |
| 18:22.53 | NightHawkTheSane | y/d/m isn't particularly popular, i dont think |
| 18:22.53 | Torhal | Err... NightHawkTheSane: ?!? |
| 18:22.57 | Ackis | is there any chance of me getting the site or is all this stuff automated now? |
| 18:23.03 | NightHawkTheSane | er, june 10 |
| 18:23.06 | Torhal | Hehehe |
| 18:23.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Torhal: duck off :P typing is hard ;) |
| 18:23.36 | Ackis | is after ackis.com :P |
| 18:23.44 | Torhal | NightHawkTheSane: teh internetz r! |
| 18:24.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: if someone's actively maintaining it, it could be renewed automagically |
| 18:24.14 | Torhal | Ackis: I think you should get ackis-lord-of-canada.com |
| 18:24.21 | Ackis | Reverse IP: 26,671 other sites hosted on this server. |
| 18:24.30 | Ackis | they're squatting on a lot of shit |
| 18:24.39 | Lopeppeppy | GoDaddy. |
| 18:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | There's tons of money in squatting |
| 18:25.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Gotai (n=Gotai@ip54546435.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 18:25.18 | Ackis | I wonder if i can get ackis.penis ? |
| 18:25.25 | Ackis | it's a LONG url! |
| 18:25.25 | Ackis | HA |
| 18:25.27 | Ackis | get it? |
| 18:25.28 | Ackis | hahahha |
| 18:25.35 | Torhal | ... |
| 18:25.40 | Ackis | Torhal will visit it everyday! |
| 18:26.00 | Torhal | I'll troll mercilessly! |
| 18:26.04 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:26.10 | Ackis | ackis.info is like 89 cents! |
| 18:26.24 | NightHawkTheSane | noone wants info about ackis, though |
| 18:26.32 | Torhal | Oooh |
| 18:26.36 | zenzelezz | Ackis: just like you then =D |
| 18:26.49 | Ackis | :O |
| 18:26.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ~zenzelezz++ |
| 18:28.31 | Ackis | there goes my dream of hosting ackis pr0n :( |
| 18:30.43 | Torhal | Ackis: Nah. Check ackis.xxx |
| 18:31.04 | Ackis | that goes to the web-cam hooked up in my shower |
| 18:31.05 | Ackis | :P |
| 18:31.21 | Torhal | Oh. I figured it would be the web cam attached to a cat collar. |
| 18:32.16 | Ackis | fucking cats |
| 18:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | meow? |
| 18:32.19 | Ackis | want one? |
| 18:32.21 | Ackis | or two? |
| 18:32.26 | Ackis | or take all 4 of the bastard |
| 18:32.26 | Ackis | s |
| 18:32.35 | Lopeppeppy | Have two, that's my lease limit |
| 18:33.01 | Ackis | my computer desk has a shelve above it, same with my gfs. We have wow figures, dragons, and other nerdy stuff up there |
| 18:33.13 | Ackis | 2 days ago come home to find half of it on the floor |
| 18:33.26 | Ackis | last night I hear a loud bang and come down to see the devil cat sitting up there |
| 18:33.28 | Lopeppeppy | That is what cats do, yes. |
| 18:33.31 | Ackis | man did I beat the shit out of him |
| 18:33.39 | Ackis | they've never tried to get up there before |
| 18:33.50 | Ackis | they broke my $150 headset in the process |
| 18:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | Moose tries to get into my shadow boxes. They are 4 inches square, hanging on the wall above her head. |
| 18:33.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch! |
| 18:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | Devil cat. |
| 18:34.01 | Ackis | broke some wow figurines as well |
| 18:34.12 | Ackis | my troll priest's staff is broken |
| 18:34.20 | Ackis | we lost the hand from the tauren hunter |
| 18:35.16 | Ackis | <-- livid |
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| 18:35.26 | Ackis | I sprayed some anti-cat stuff up there as well |
| 18:35.26 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:35.32 | Ackis | stupid devil cats |
| 18:35.38 | Ackis | I want to beat him up again! |
| 18:35.40 | Ackis | RAWR |
| 18:35.43 | Ackis | I'm typing really hard now |
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| 18:35.48 | Ackis | and it's all Torhal's fault |
| 18:35.55 | Lopeppeppy | We can have pets/kids, or we can have nice things, but not both. |
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| 18:36.33 | Ackis | kids bleh |
| 18:37.39 | Lopeppeppy | 'zactly. Wish I could go to the vet and get neutered |
| 18:37.52 | Ackis | you'd get spayed |
| 18:37.55 | Ackis | :P |
| 18:38.56 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 18:39.05 | Lopeppeppy | Whatever. |
| 18:39.07 | Ackis | hi Fisker |
| 18:39.07 | Lopeppeppy | Wish I could. |
| 18:39.24 | Ackis | Fisker: http://raptr.com/Ackis |
| 18:39.47 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/funny-pictures-kitten-is-perfect-for-halloween.jpg <-- might be me this halloween |
| 18:44.21 | Torhal | Damn, Ackis. No wonder you don't code anymore - you're too busy visiting every web page in existence! |
| 18:44.35 | Ackis | Torhal: :D |
| 18:44.39 | Torhal | Well, that and beating your cats. |
| 18:45.32 | Ackis | nah I just play xbox 360 and get you to code for me;) |
| 18:45.56 | Torhal | Why do you think I make snarky commits? :) |
| 18:47.00 | Torhal | The next one will likely say "OMG! MOAR XBOX!" |
| 18:47.06 | Ackis | hehe |
| 18:47.07 | Ackis | http://www.mileysavefuzzy.com/ |
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| 19:15.29 | NightHawkTheSane | "we don't need ssl on anything other than login pages" >< |
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| 19:22.07 | Fisker | wtf Ackis |
| 19:22.15 | Fisker | i think i bugged my save :o |
| 19:22.30 | Ackis | with borderlands? |
| 19:23.11 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:23.17 | Ackis | :( |
| 19:23.20 | Ackis | what level were you? |
| 19:23.26 | Fisker | 33 |
| 19:23.30 | Fisker | but not bugged in that way |
| 19:23.35 | Fisker | my pistol does 999999 damage |
| 19:23.37 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:23.43 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:23.45 | Ackis | hax |
| 19:23.48 | Ackis | I'm level 42 now |
| 19:23.56 | Ackis | 8 more to go til I'm maxed |
| 19:24.16 | Thunder_Child | only 50 levels? |
| 19:24.16 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 19:24.29 | Ackis | only? :P |
| 19:25.20 | Fisker | a better ui and a closed battle.net like system and this game would've been awesome |
| 19:25.48 | Fisker | their mods still won't reply to me why saying you use µTorrent constitutes as piracy talk |
| 19:25.49 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:25.54 | Ackis | aka the xbox live stuff (which is really wicked for it) |
| 19:25.56 | Fisker | and more specifically "how to pirate their game" |
| 19:26.39 | Ackis | right now the only thing I could wish for would be PC/console interaction like shadowrun for example |
| 19:26.51 | Shirik | Fisker & Ackis |
| 19:27.06 | Ackis | hi Shirik |
| 19:29.51 | cog|work | ~lart A Mask for All Occasions |
| 19:29.51 | purl | decapitates A Mask conan the destroyer style for All Occasions |
| 19:30.08 | durcyn | oh |
| 19:30.15 | Fisker | how far from the end is the crimson enclave Ackis ? |
| 19:30.17 | durcyn | ~lart cog|work for fucking up varargs |
| 19:30.17 | purl | crushes cog|work with a full height scsi disk for fucking up varargs |
| 19:30.33 | cog|work | hides |
| 19:30.38 | Fisker | would have gotten mine cog|work |
| 19:30.43 | Fisker | if it wasn't for those pesky kids at blizzard |
| 19:30.54 | durcyn | oh, i did that wrong |
| 19:31.00 | Ackis | Fisker: you're close to the end |
| 19:31.01 | durcyn | ~lart Fisker for being danish |
| 19:31.01 | purl | steals Fisker's mojo for being danish |
| 19:31.40 | cog|work | i have two hallow's ends under my belt with only 7/20 masks to my name :'( |
| 19:31.57 | Ackis | ~rlart |
| 19:31.57 | purl | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats olafski until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 19:32.01 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.02 | Ackis | WIN |
| 19:32.31 | olafski | wtf is that |
| 19:32.47 | Ackis | you got rlarted |
| 19:33.28 | Fisker | i've gotten 13 this year Legorol :o |
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| 19:33.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide-] by ChanServ |
| 19:33.33 | cog|work | ~lart the Android SDK installer for sucking |
| 19:33.33 | purl | eats the Android SDK installer's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti for sucking |
| 19:33.50 | *** join/#wowuidev |ckknight| (n=ckknight@adsl-070-154-141-184.sip.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:33.52 | Shirik | ~lart cog|work for overuse of ~lart |
| 19:33.52 | purl | frags cog|work with his BFG9000 for overuse of ~lart |
| 19:34.03 | cog|work | ~lart lart for being overused |
| 19:34.03 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down lart's throat until lart puts on 150lbs for being overused |
| 19:34.51 | Shirik | mmmmmmmm |
| 19:34.53 | Shirik | krispy kreme |
| 19:35.00 | Shirik | omg hungry now |
| 19:35.01 | Shirik | fu purl |
| 19:35.15 | NightHawkTheSane | krispy kreme is meh |
| 19:35.20 | NightHawkTheSane | top pot donuts ftw |
| 19:35.32 | Shirik | na na na |
| 19:35.37 | Shirik | krispy kreme ftmfw |
| 19:36.54 | NightHawkTheSane | pft. you just haven't had good donuts :P |
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| 19:38.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Random (n=Denial@unaffiliated/windaria) |
| 19:39.05 | Shirik | nana |
| 19:39.13 | Fisker | butts |
| 19:39.14 | Shirik | you just haven't had HOT krispy kreme donuts |
| 19:39.18 | Shirik | from the official store |
| 19:39.22 | Shirik | not that boxed crap at the supermarket |
| 19:39.37 | Fisker | aww Ackis |
| 19:39.58 | olafski | what's rlarted ackis |
| 19:40.17 | olafski | time to put that bot on ignore too I guess :P |
| 19:40.48 | Shirik | you can't ignore purl |
| 19:41.06 | olafski | just did :P |
| 19:41.16 | Shirik | now the universe will implode |
| 19:41.56 | olafski | so be it :( |
| 19:42.14 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, i have had hot & fresh krispy kremes. good, sure, but don't hold a candle to top pot. |
| 19:42.47 | NightHawkTheSane | who gets krispy kreme from a supermarket anyway? |
| 19:43.24 | Lopeppeppy | Who eats that trash anyway? |
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| 19:43.57 | NightHawkTheSane | also true :) |
| 19:44.42 | Ackis | I had one once to try it |
| 19:44.50 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.toppotdoughnuts.com/doughnuts.html |
| 19:48.03 | NightHawkTheSane | goes to lunch |
| 19:48.05 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@67.166.76.157) |
| 19:56.28 | Ackis | http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3679/page/1 |
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| 20:07.20 | Shirik | I refuse to click the link Ackis |
| 20:08.41 | Ackis | Shirik: it details the biggest MMO launch bombs out there... anarchy online was #1, aion was #3 I think |
| 20:08.41 | Ackis | SWG was 5 |
| 20:08.41 | Ackis | kinda interesting |
| 20:08.49 | Fisker | awesome Ackis |
| 20:08.52 | Fisker | 4 greenies |
| 20:08.55 | Shirik | I don't see how you can call Aion a "launch bomb" |
| 20:09.11 | Shirik | perhaps it was misadvertised, or perhaps people just want another WoW too much |
| 20:09.35 | Ackis | Shirik: 8 hour log in times for the head start program |
| 20:09.38 | Shirik | RF Online should be on that list |
| 20:09.51 | Shirik | ah this is true I guess |
| 20:09.53 | Ackis | Fisker: greenies? |
| 20:10.11 | Shirik | but it's more than fixed now |
| 20:10.12 | Fisker | btw the end boss is easy |
| 20:10.17 | Shirik | they don't even force you off after AFK |
| 20:10.18 | Fisker | highly vulnerable to rocketlaunchers |
| 20:10.32 | Fisker | took 3/4th's its hp |
| 20:10.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.50 | Ackis | http://www.wirejacked.com/index.php/jacked-up-news/holidays/272-the-7-scariest-moments-in-video-game-history |
| 20:10.55 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 20:10.58 | Ackis | *busy work day today |
| 20:11.03 | Shirik | I will destroy you with 1000 liters of milk |
| 20:11.19 | Fisker | awesome |
| 20:11.24 | Fisker | you just ordered a thousand liters of milk |
| 20:11.54 | Shirik | oooo, DarkFall was a big one yes |
| 20:13.37 | Shirik | So my school has this email server "DB Communications" which basically just spams you with activity messages from clubs and stuff |
| 20:13.51 | Shirik | I don't think they're aware that people might actually only read text versions of email |
| 20:13.55 | Shirik | so all I ever get from them is "Please do not reply to this message. This is an unmonitored mailbox." |
| 20:14.03 | Shirik | I have like 10 copies of that message |
| 20:14.32 | nevcairiel | you only read the plaintext version, not the html version, eh? |
| 20:14.55 | Shirik | I don't even know how to switch to the HTML veresion |
| 20:15.09 | Shirik | (without reconfiguring the entire client) |
| 20:15.36 | Shirik | fact of the matter is, for something I know is unsolicited, why would I? |
| 20:15.54 | Shirik | in spam mails you have all of about 2 seconds to grab the reader's attention |
| 20:15.59 | Shirik | if there's no content, then you fail |
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| 20:16.29 | nevcairiel | many html mailers just include a pretty dummy plaintext content so spam detectors dont flag them as "pure html" |
| 20:16.38 | *** join/#wowuidev BWMerlin (n=chatzill@58.174.148.250) |
| 20:17.25 | Shirik | pure html == spam? |
| 20:17.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:17.47 | nevcairiel | well, its one sign of an improper mail |
| 20:18.03 | nevcairiel | since every sane mail client should include your text as both plain and html, if you insist on writing html mails |
| 20:18.07 | Arrowmaster | hell just including any html can get you marked as spam by almost every mailing list |
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| 20:18.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 20:18.38 | Shirik | well in a mailing list it's considered "proper" to use text, not html |
| 20:18.43 | nevcairiel | well mailing lists can be stricter then any other filtering :P |
| 20:18.52 | nevcairiel | they just dicard any multipart mails |
| 20:19.05 | Shirik | your average grandma isn't going to follow mailing list standards |
| 20:19.35 | nevcairiel | i love when people get yelled at again for quoting wrong in mailing list dicussions |
| 20:19.43 | nevcairiel | but they are right, its so damn annoying :P |
| 20:21.19 | durcyn | top posting should've died with aol, there's no justice in this world |
| 20:22.11 | Ginji | Why hasn't my copy of borderlands arrived today!? |
| 20:23.36 | Ackis | Ginji: you haven't finished it yet? n00b |
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| 20:28.19 | Shirik | yeah noob |
| 20:28.27 | Shirik | wanna know what else is noob? |
| 20:28.38 | Shirik | I went to pick up your paycheck and found I've missed the last 3 pay periods |
| 20:28.42 | Shirik | so now I have $$$ |
| 20:30.49 | zenzelezz | three pay periods only amount to a three-digit number? |
| 20:31.02 | zenzelezz | I think we should abolish headaches, their time is over |
| 20:31.20 | durcyn | you went to pick up *my* paycheck? |
| 20:31.49 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: Shirik is hax like that |
| 20:31.59 | zenzelezz | do you actually get paychecks, instead of just having the money deposited in your bank account? |
| 20:32.15 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you actually have to pick up your money? |
| 20:32.23 | nevcairiel | mine just magically appears on my account :P |
| 20:32.24 | Shirik | School is lazy! |
| 20:32.24 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:32.42 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: copycat |
| 20:32.57 | nevcairiel | that sounds like more time wasted on handing out the stuff then wiring it to the people |
| 20:32.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i actually have to 'pick up' my check, but really, "pick up" means, the girl behind & 3ft away from me turning around and handing it to me. |
| 20:32.59 | nevcairiel | but w/e :P |
| 20:34.19 | Bruners | hi Fisker |
| 20:34.26 | Shirik | An error has occurred: |
| 20:34.29 | Shirik | That is the end of the message |
| 20:34.39 | Shirik | clicking "show details" causes a red box to appear |
| 20:34.45 | Shirik | with nothing inside |
| 20:34.56 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe an error occured while the error was occurring. |
| 20:34.58 | zenzelezz | Shirik: the error is so critical they're lost for words |
| 20:35.01 | nevcairiel | i spent like 3 hours reading the daily wtf today, thats not even a good one :P |
| 20:35.26 | NightHawkTheSane | (cue obnoxious 'yo dawg, i herd you like errors...') |
| 20:36.11 | Shirik | where did that meme even come from |
| 20:36.14 | Shirik | like seriously, wtf |
| 20:36.19 | zenzelezz | Shirik: "Pimp my ride" |
| 20:36.24 | Shirik | seriously? |
| 20:36.26 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 20:36.37 | nevcairiel | silly mtv |
| 20:36.42 | zenzelezz | because they'd be putting all kinds of crap in the cars |
| 20:36.45 | Shirik | mstsc |
| 20:37.09 | Shirik | so |
| 20:37.13 | Shirik | what's bad about putting crap in cars |
| 20:37.16 | Shirik | I want a tv in my car |
| 20:37.28 | Shirik | but it's not like they've ever put a car in a car |
| 20:37.30 | Shirik | have they? |
| 20:37.38 | nevcairiel | i bet they have |
| 20:37.41 | zenzelezz | no, but just about everything else |
| 20:37.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ... they probably have |
| 20:37.49 | zenzelezz | didn't they put an aquarium in one? |
| 20:37.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | like a little model car racetrack in a limo? that'd be badass |
| 20:38.04 | durcyn | Shirik: i don't think your rdp client actually started. |
| 20:38.13 | Shirik | I think it did durcyn |
| 20:38.19 | Shirik | it just took a little more time than anticipated |
| 20:39.21 | zenzelezz | "yo dawg i heard you like cars so we put a car in yo car so you can drive while you drive" -- I just typed "yo dawg" in Google o_O |
| 20:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | lulz |
| 20:40.03 | durcyn | fuck memes |
| 20:40.08 | durcyn | including that one, NHTS |
| 20:40.36 | zenzelezz | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d6/Yoyoyodawg.jpg -- now that's extreme |
| 20:40.46 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:40.47 | Shirik | I saw that |
| 20:40.49 | Shirik | I liked it |
| 20:41.32 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:41.38 | Fisker | wyo old zenzelezz |
| 20:41.53 | zenzelezz | Fisker: yeah, I didn't claim it was new =) |
| 20:42.44 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 20:42.47 | Shirik | why are you so mean :( |
| 20:42.58 | Bruners | is there a addon that shows if i have completed achivement x if open its tooltip? i just want the tooltip action not all the stuff overachiver provides |
| 20:46.25 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:51.37 | Bruners | Fisker: help me out here |
| 20:55.06 | Fisker | hey Bruners |
| 20:55.23 | Fisker | and there is |
| 20:56.09 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:56.10 | Fisker | fuck you |
| 20:56.14 | Fisker | idk |
| 20:56.28 | Fisker | l2overachiever |
| 20:57.26 | Adys | http://wave.google.com/maintenance/index.html |
| 20:59.10 | Fisker | that page scares me |
| 21:00.54 | Adys | I just realized something |
| 21:00.54 | Adys | I can get exalted zandalar tribe on a lvl 1 |
| 21:04.23 | ZorbaBeta | I wonder what the lv1 character with the most achievement points is |
| 21:04.29 | ZorbaBeta | I've kind of wanted to get Explorer on my bank alt |
| 21:04.58 | nevcairiel | you wont stay lvl 1 with explorer :P |
| 21:05.12 | ZorbaBeta | nev, pvp experience lock, baby :D |
| 21:05.19 | nevcairiel | although getting the fly zones in wotlk might be difficult |
| 21:05.26 | ZorbaBeta | will become a lv1 achievement twink |
| 21:05.34 | ZorbaBeta | you'd need to get a friendly warlock to summon you around. |
| 21:05.47 | Fisker | http://notalwaysright.com/tit-for-tattoo/2955 <-massive amounts of win |
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| 21:10.12 | olafski | :D |
| 21:17.59 | Shirik | slaps Fisker with a large Fisker |
| 21:19.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 21:19.09 | Lunessa | station... |
| 21:19.31 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: could just sit in somebodys tundra mammoth as they run all around the world |
| 21:19.52 | ZorbaBeta | arrow, doesn't entirely help, some areas basically can't be accessed from the ground |
| 21:20.01 | ZorbaBeta | heya lunessa |
| 21:20.16 | Fisker | likes Shirik |
| 21:20.17 | Arrowmaster | right but that could get you most of it, like all of the old world |
| 21:20.29 | ZorbaBeta | true |
| 21:20.38 | ZorbaBeta | although all that stuff you could just do on foot if you had to (with a lot of dying) |
| 21:20.43 | Lunessa | And a huge portion of Outland and lots of Northrend |
| 21:21.06 | Lunessa | Find someone with the motorcycle might be easier |
| 21:21.13 | Arrowmaster | would have been even better back when the chopper/hog were immune to snares |
| 21:21.39 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 21:21.40 | Fisker | i fu'd |
| 21:22.52 | Lunessa | drowns Fisker with 1,000 liters of milk. |
| 21:24.57 | Fisker | goes back in time and cancels Lunessa's order of a thousand liters of milk |
| 21:25.29 | Lunessa | it's damned hard to type on a laptop keyboard with a dachshund in your lap. |
| 21:27.05 | Ackis | so what's this google wave and does anyone have an invite for me? |
| 21:27.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: it's pure bliss, and a free puppy. and no. |
| 21:27.41 | Ackis | oh |
| 21:27.50 | Ackis | what if I said it was for a friend? |
| 21:27.54 | Ackis | can I have 2 then? |
| 21:27.58 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:28.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ... no. |
| 21:28.21 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:28.36 | foxlit | psst, http://torchlightgame.com/ |
| 21:29.03 | foxlit | Or perhaps http://store.steampowered.com/app/41500/ |
| 21:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: call me when theres a mac version |
| 21:29.27 | KarlKFI|work | it's TBA |
| 21:29.41 | KarlKFI|work | it's a fun game for the couple hours i've played |
| 21:29.41 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: the system requirements are such that you can probably just run it in simulation. |
| 21:29.46 | Fisker | NightHawkTheSane call yourself and install windows |
| 21:29.59 | Ackis | ~Fisker++ |
| 21:30.15 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: im lazy :P |
| 21:30.17 | KarlKFI|work | i like the pet you can load up and have run to town to sell items |
| 21:30.30 | foxlit | I demand more bag space, tbh. |
| 21:30.43 | foxlit | The pet is nice, but it's not quite enough. |
| 21:30.45 | KarlKFI|work | you have pet bag space |
| 21:30.49 | foxlit | (curse you, non-stacking gems) |
| 21:31.05 | KarlKFI|work | and a shared stash between chars |
| 21:31.19 | Ackis | what pet? |
| 21:31.20 | Ackis | there's a pet? |
| 21:31.22 | Ackis | omg a pet |
| 21:31.29 | foxlit | The problem is that the pet sells everything when it runs back, so you can't really use it to hold things beyond the inventory slot count. |
| 21:31.46 | Ackis | the pet runs back? |
| 21:31.48 | KarlKFI|work | sure you can.. have it hold the stuff you sell :P |
| 21:32.02 | KarlKFI|work | you can shift loot to have the pet pick up the crap |
| 21:32.14 | foxlit | Once you acquire your inventory's worth of items you wish to keep, you have to head back to town. |
| 21:32.25 | Fisker | takes NightHawkTheSane to the dance |
| 21:32.26 | KarlKFI|work | yes... |
| 21:32.27 | Ackis | what pet are we talking about? |
| 21:32.31 | KarlKFI|work | so? |
| 21:32.33 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:32.47 | foxlit | KarlKFIwork: I feel that that limit is insufficient given the level size. |
| 21:32.53 | KarlKFI|work | still better than having to go back to town every 5 min when your inv is full fo grey items |
| 21:32.57 | Ackis | Fisker: http://store.steampowered.com/news/3033/ more railworks DLC |
| 21:33.06 | KarlKFI|work | that's what town portals are for.. |
| 21:33.16 | KarlKFI|work | you're not meant to LIVE int he dungions. |
| 21:33.24 | foxlit | But that's the fun part! |
| 21:33.35 | KarlKFI|work | items are the fun part :P |
| 21:33.47 | Ackis | Fisker: $258.16 USD now :D |
| 21:34.07 | foxlit | To be fair, it has no durability damage, and it practically rains potions. |
| 21:34.13 | foxlit | So you don't really have to loot anything. |
| 21:35.55 | foxlit | KarlKFI: I'm interested in how it generates levels, though. |
| 21:36.28 | foxlit | I somehow feel that they cheat with exit positions: I never seem to find the exit early, and I never seem to run into multitudes of dead ends. |
| 21:36.39 | foxlit | At the same time, it feels like there are semi-meaningful forks. |
| 21:36.49 | Fisker | ooooooooold Ackis |
| 21:39.01 | Ackis | Fisker: not old |
| 21:39.09 | Ackis | Fisker: new DLC released like 10 mins ago! |
| 21:40.03 | Fisker | i know |
| 21:40.08 | Fisker | you know rss feeds? |
| 21:40.11 | Fisker | They're the fucking shit |
| 21:40.49 | Fisker | if they consolefag'd railworks it would've worked for consoles |
| 21:42.08 | Ackis | wots an rss feed ? :P |
| 21:44.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Ackis (n=Ackis@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 21:46.32 | Fisker | goodbye cruel Ackis |
| 21:47.58 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:49.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Ackis (n=Ackis@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 21:49.29 | Ackis | hrmm |
| 21:49.31 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 21:49.33 | Ackis | y? |
| 21:49.35 | Ackis | Y? |
| 21:49.37 | Ackis | YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY? |
| 21:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | y ask y? |
| 21:51.23 | Ackis | because I wanted to see Fisker say YOUR MOM |
| 21:53.00 | NightHawkTheSane | oh |
| 21:53.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: YOUR MOM |
| 21:53.17 | Ackis | it's not the same coming from you |
| 21:53.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i know :( |
| 21:54.14 | Aelobin | any idea why these http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3839/wowscrnshot103009215102.jpg are missing their middles? :< |
| 21:54.33 | Aelobin | i used InputBoxTemplate |
| 21:55.40 | Aelobin | seen the bug a few times but never understood why :/ |
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| 22:09.42 | foxlit | You need to name your textboxes |
| 22:10.32 | foxlit | Furthermore, names must be unique. |
| 22:11.49 | Aelobin | aha :) |
| 22:11.58 | Aelobin | im addicted to making frames just local with no global name |
| 22:12.11 | Aelobin | gets bad when i start doing fauxscrollframes and other templates :P |
| 22:13.29 | NightHawkTheSane | fsf can die in a fire |
| 22:13.39 | Aelobin | lol |
| 22:13.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ~fauxscrollframe |
| 22:13.47 | purl | somebody said fauxscrollframe was one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. Mikk says: Just use a Slider. |
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| 22:15.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
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| 22:16.37 | NightHawkTheSane | evening Lopeppeppy |
| 22:16.45 | Lopeppeppy | re-hello |
| 22:16.53 | Adys | anyone worked with opengl before? |
| 22:17.08 | Adys | and would recommend a good c++/opengl tut |
| 22:24.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 22:25.08 | Fisker | ITS ALIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 22:26.58 | Fisker | ok Ackis |
| 22:27.01 | Fisker | seriously |
| 22:27.08 | Fisker | you need TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN |
| 22:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | You were the one squeeeing. :P |
| 22:27.58 | Lopeppeppy | Like a little girl |
| 22:28.57 | Fisker | i got my velociraptor running |
| 22:29.05 | fl1st4r | uhmmm if i redo my addin in lua, i need to redo all my function xxx_Onclick with dropdownmenu:SetScript("OnClick" .... ? |
| 22:29.09 | fl1st4r | addon* |
| 22:29.25 | Fisker | So now things won't calm down |
| 22:29.30 | Fisker | they will, infact, calm up |
| 22:30.15 | cog|work | fl1st4r: yep |
| 22:30.28 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: pong |
| 22:30.28 | fl1st4r | ok thx ;) |
| 22:32.40 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 22:32.53 | Shirik | Fisker + fl1st4r |
| 22:33.01 | mikma | scytheblade1: propably ain't a way to mute players. right? |
| 22:33.12 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 22:33.15 | Fisker | i took your keyboard away |
| 22:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for dinosaurs, I can always cheer for that. |
| 22:33.22 | mikma | scytheblade1: sv_enablevoice 0 ^^ |
| 22:34.13 | Shirik | ! |
| 22:34.17 | Shirik | I have invites for google voice? |
| 22:34.26 | KarlKFI | mememe |
| 22:35.16 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i know Cairenn wanted one |
| 22:35.20 | Thunder_Child | and so did i |
| 22:35.42 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: there you have it |
| 22:35.46 | Shirik | why do they give me so few invites :< |
| 22:36.10 | *** part/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 22:36.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Because there are real-world costs/billing related to that? |
| 22:36.16 | Lopeppeppy | They hates you? |
| 22:36.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Isn't like you have to pay for anything else, really |
| 22:36.50 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, this is google you are talking about, they dont need to conform to the "real world" |
| 22:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:38.04 | Shirik | You specifically agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the Services through any automated means (including use of scripts or web crawlers) and shall ensure that you comply with the instructions set out in any robots.txt file present on the Services. |
| 22:38.06 | Shirik | wtf |
| 22:38.19 | Shirik | If you aren't allowed to use the service automated, wtf does robots.txt have to do with it? |
| 22:38.39 | Shirik | "But if you do violate this TOS, you have to follow this rule..." |
| 22:39.24 | foxlit | Bots can't agree to TOS |
| 22:39.57 | fl1st4r | uhmm i just redone all my function with SetScript(), but when i load my addon, WoW tell me i haven't Initialize funtion for my dropdownmenu o_O ( Error: DROPDOWNMENUNAME doesn't have a "Initialize" script ) --> paste http://wowuidev.pastey.net/127367 |
| 22:41.19 | foxlit | You cannot expect :SetScript("OnLoad", ...) to work. |
| 22:42.18 | fl1st4r | uhmm ok, i need to load it from XML fils ? |
| 22:42.20 | fl1st4r | file* |
| 22:42.39 | foxlit | Not necessarily. You could just call your OnLoad handler yourself. |
| 22:44.14 | fl1st4r | ok, i'll try |
| 22:51.22 | sylvanaar | hybridscrollframe > fauxscrollframe, discuss |
| 22:52.06 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, they don't care about costs |
| 22:52.07 | Shirik | they're google |
| 22:54.03 | Adys | [00:33:36] <ScytheBlade1> Because there are real-world costs/billing related to that? |
| 22:54.06 | Adys | not really |
| 22:54.13 | Adys | its about load balancing |
| 22:54.19 | Adys | wave takes shittons of resources from what i hear |
| 22:55.51 | krka | imperial or metric shittons? |
| 22:56.17 | Adys | metric, they're google |
| 22:56.35 | ScytheBlade1 | talking about voice, not wave, iirc |
| 22:56.46 | Adys | oh |
| 22:56.49 | Adys | well fuck off then |
| 22:56.52 | Adys | bloody US |
| 22:57.57 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, these are some epic costumes: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4219/0legocoustom.jpg |
| 22:58.43 | Adys | lol |
| 22:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | aside from the video naming fail |
| 22:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_u_iDYkgQg&NR=1 |
| 22:59.17 | Thunder_Child | oh crap...shirik was talking about voice.. |
| 22:59.24 | Thunder_Child | nvm what i said then Shirik |
| 22:59.36 | Shirik | >< |
| 22:59.42 | Shirik | good thing I didn't send anything out yet |
| 22:59.49 | Thunder_Child | i had voice before google owned it |
| 22:59.49 | Shirik | what did you want? wave? |
| 22:59.52 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 23:00.00 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/228091490 |
| 23:00.16 | Adys | Wave invites are going to be more common soon |
| 23:00.36 | Shirik | not if they keep having trouble with scalability |
| 23:01.23 | Adys | this is google |
| 23:01.32 | Adys | they abandon products sometimes during beta, even after release |
| 23:01.40 | Adys | but never when they actually tout it so much |
| 23:02.36 | NightHawkTheSane | http://bellflower.elfle.com/cats-playing-with-water.html |
| 23:02.49 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/CvzCxuW7pbo/ghooooulish-googleween.html |
| 23:02.56 | Adys | michael jackson costume +500% |
| 23:03.11 | *** join/#wowuidev ColinT (n=ColinT@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) |
| 23:03.30 | KarlKFI | those seem shot with a really fast camera |
| 23:03.57 | Lopeppeppy | must be fast to catch a cat being undignified |
| 23:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 23:04.13 | KarlKFI | the water droplets are really crisp |
| 23:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | mooseling would never |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik | batrick is being mean |
| 23:04.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:04.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 23:04.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, look Iriel is out of the box! |
| 23:04.43 | Shirik | He disagrees with me that C++ is better because of cool error messages |
| 23:04.55 | Shirik | 1>AndQueryConditionDecorator.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol "protected: class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> > __thiscall IDEA::Database::CQueryConditionDecorator::GetLhsQuery(void)const " (?GetLhsQuery@CQueryConditionDecorator@Database@IDEA@@IBE?AV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@XZ) referenced in function "public: virtu |
| 23:05.12 | Iriel | Lopeppeppy: Something like that. |
| 23:05.12 | Shirik | I mean come on, don't you wish you had a (?ToString@CAndQueryConditionDecorator@Database@IDEA@@UBE?AV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@XZ) in your error messages? |
| 23:05.16 | Shirik | C doesn't have that |
| 23:05.33 | Cairenn | quick, get your cameras, it's an Iriel sighting! |
| 23:05.37 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 23:05.41 | Shirik | Cairenn saying "get your cameras" |
| 23:05.43 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, i'd be really scared if that was in my errors |
| 23:05.44 | Shirik | the irony, it is killing me |
| 23:05.49 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 23:05.49 | Lopeppeppy | Not for HER, Shirik. |
| 23:05.52 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn |
| 23:05.57 | KarlKFI | i thought Iriel was the one with all the cameras |
| 23:06.00 | Cairenn | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 23:06.16 | Shirik | nah, Iriel has a cheap camera |
| 23:06.21 | Shirik | hugs Iriel |
| 23:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | le gasp! |
| 23:06.28 | Iriel | pokes Shirik. |
| 23:06.37 | Shirik | :3 |
| 23:06.54 | Shirik | nah Iriel is win |
| 23:06.55 | Iriel | I've still got my D1x too, remember |
| 23:07.08 | Iriel | Even though the D300's better than it these days. |
| 23:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | R2D2? |
| 23:07.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@203-158-60-123.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:07.57 | Lopeppeppy | D3PO? |
| 23:09.10 | Shirik | 5DM2 |
| 23:09.32 | Shirik | Something really bothers me about C3PO |
| 23:09.47 | Shirik | I am quite curious about whether it was originally intended to be C3P0 |
| 23:10.51 | KarlKFI | in most numbers like that the O is never used, 0 is used |
| 23:11.05 | KarlKFI | but 0 is often verbalized as O |
| 23:11.25 | krka | Shirik: oh god don't remind me of c++ compiler / linker errors |
| 23:11.33 | krka | those are utterly useless and a royal pain |
| 23:11.48 | Shirik | hey krka |
| 23:11.55 | krka | karlKFI: 0rly? |
| 23:11.58 | Shirik | 1>C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\IDEA\Debug\Database.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 30 unresolved externals |
| 23:12.03 | Shirik | :3 |
| 23:12.13 | Shirik | But they're all intentional so it's no big deal |
| 23:12.16 | Shirik | but it's fun to look at |
| 23:12.56 | KarlKFI | krka y4rly |
| 23:14.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Hobowarrior (n=hobowarr@82.132.139.20) |
| 23:14.26 | krka | you pronounce 4 as "a"? |
| 23:16.38 | *** join/#wowuidev BWMerlin (n=chatzill@58.174.148.250) |
| 23:20.48 | KarlKFI | you read Orly as a number? |
| 23:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computer_phases |
| 23:29.44 | KarlKFI | http://theoatmeal.com/img/quizzes/generated/tapeworm_host_4.jpg |
| 23:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | Do I want to know what you guys are doing? |
| 23:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm procrastinating. :P |
| 23:35.18 | KarlKFI | i'm "working" |
| 23:36.28 | NightHawkTheSane | so, same as me, then? :P |
| 23:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | oh, carry on then. |
| 23:38.06 | Shirik | ow holy shit |
| 23:38.07 | Shirik | http://theoatmeal.com/quizzes/sound/ |
| 23:38.12 | Shirik | that hurt my ears >< |
| 23:38.43 | Lopeppeppy | don't do it then |
| 23:39.13 | Shirik | apparently only my right ear can hear it though |
| 23:39.16 | Shirik | kinda scary |
| 23:39.19 | Lopeppeppy | weird |
| 23:39.39 | Shirik | I'm not sure if that's temporary or permanent -- my left ear has been pretty blocked lately |
| 23:40.19 | Balreign | Shirik, I hate you! God it hurts!!! |
| 23:40.24 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:41.12 | Balreign | err I thought it was some kind of awfull music... not that kind of sound. |
| 23:41.24 | Shirik | KarlKFI: http://theoatmeal.com/img/quizzes/generated/tapeworm_host_1.jpg |
| 23:41.46 | KarlKFI | eat more |
| 23:42.07 | KarlKFI | actually it probably over calculated my metabolism |
| 23:47.33 | Shirik | ~emulate KarlKFI |
| 23:47.36 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:48.50 | Lopeppeppy | I think purl is on vacation again? |
| 23:48.59 | Lopeppeppy | No, she's here. |
| 23:49.02 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 23:49.02 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
| 23:49.40 | Shirik | Declined: This transaction did not pass the credit card processor's fraud rules. Please check all billing information and try again. If billing information is correct, contact your credit card company. |
| 23:49.43 | Shirik | what the hell does that mean |
| 23:50.26 | KarlKFI | it means you should stop giving them your uncle's cc# |
| 23:50.36 | NeoTron | that you were DENIED |
| 23:50.58 | Shirik | But all the information is right... |
| 23:51.02 | Lopeppeppy | might have gotten the confirmation code thing wrong, or the billing info? |
| 23:51.08 | Shirik | I double checked it, and tried again |
| 23:51.11 | Shirik | it's still failing |
| 23:51.14 | Lopeppeppy | Or maybe the card company flagged it as unusual? |
| 23:51.34 | Shirik | now I'm gonna have to call the bank |
| 23:51.36 | Shirik | pita |
| 23:51.49 | NeoTron | knows more about payment processing that he wish he did. |
| 23:52.01 | NeoTron | anyhow, clearly it fails on the auth step or the response would come later |
| 23:52.59 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, hungry Peppy is hungry! |
| 23:53.43 | Cairenn | gives Lopeppeppy a cookie |
| 23:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | I have a bitch of a head cold, I didn't really eat yesterday. I'm feeling a bit better today, so now I'm like RAWR FEED ME!!! |
| 23:55.54 | Thunder_Child | gives peppy a 7 course meal from Mr. A's |
| 23:56.15 | Lopeppeppy | What is a Mister A? |
| 23:56.22 | Shirik | ok I fucked something up |
| 23:56.35 | Thunder_Child | a resturant |
| 23:56.37 | Shirik | I know the first time I typed in the CVV wrong |
| 23:56.45 | Shirik | The second and third time, I got that error |
| 23:56.48 | Lopeppeppy | Well duh, TC, what **kind** |
| 23:56.56 | Shirik | The bank says they only declined one transaction |
| 23:57.05 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy. http://www.bertrandatmisteras.com/menus/dinner.htm |
| 23:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, maybe because you did it wrong the first time, it hates you now due to the declined trans. |
| 23:57.06 | Shirik | not the 3 I made |
| 23:57.19 | Shirik | so you block someone out permanently because of a typo? |
| 23:57.24 | Shirik | I could understand if I screwed it up 3 times |
| 23:57.24 | Lopeppeppy | TC, they have seafood, I'm good. |
| 23:57.25 | Shirik | but 1? |
| 23:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Hypervigilant, I'd agree |
| 23:58.14 | Lopeppeppy | But I'd want to know what a "beluga lentil" is, seems like an impossibility to me. |
| 23:59.40 | NeoTron | maybe they cache the response like some weird douchebags? :P |
