| 00:00.19 | ZorbaTHut | it'd be neat if rebirth had a similar cooldown mechanic to potions |
| 00:00.25 | ZorbaTHut | 2-minute cooldown, but only if you're not in combat |
| 00:00.42 | ZorbaTHut | so you'd always have precisely one during a raid fight |
| 00:00.53 | WobWork | agrees with ZorbaTHut |
| 00:01.15 | Jerub | yeah, that'd be good |
| 00:01.43 | ZorbaTHut | I'm strongly tempted to suggest the same for Heroism and any other long-cooldown ability, though it'd create problems with leveling speed. |
| 00:01.54 | WobWork | I like the "We don't want Shamans committing suicide, just for a better placement" argument =P |
| 00:02.13 | ZorbaTHut | (and make heroism used on like every trash pull which I suspect is not really the idea) |
| 00:02.26 | Legorol | ZorbaTHut: what's the address of your blog? |
| 00:02.38 | ZorbaTHut | legorol, which one? www.mandible.net for my official gamedev blog |
| 00:02.53 | Legorol | the one that was blamed to be so utterly addictive |
| 00:02.58 | Jerub | mandible. |
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| 00:03.12 | Jerub | i read the archive last night. it was shorter than i thought, but i /was/reading it while doing a raid. |
| 00:03.12 | ZorbaTHut | I didn't know anyone had blamed that on it, but I'm not complaining if so :) |
| 00:03.24 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, yeah, I don't post as often as I really want to. it's hard to come up with good things to say sometimes |
| 00:03.27 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: it was me! bwahaha |
| 00:03.35 | Jerub | i mean, uh, hi. |
| 00:03.35 | ZorbaTHut | for a while I was trying for weekly, but that didn't happen |
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| 00:09.45 | Amarande | gkick Jerub :P |
| 00:09.56 | Amarande | YOU READ BLOGS DURING A RAID. |
| 00:10.15 | Amarande | that's it, I'll take that crappy enh shaman that does 2400 dps over you next time. :P |
| 00:10.32 | Jerub | man. my bear pulls more damage than that while reading jeff atwood. |
| 00:10.54 | Amarande | Jerub: the point is I'd sooner take someone who does crappy dps but pays attention than someone who pumps the meters and doesn't :) |
| 00:11.56 | ZorbaTHut | I certainly read things during raids all the time, though not usually during combat |
| 00:12.14 | WobWork | that's why he was blaming ZorbaTHut |
| 00:12.26 | WobWork | cause the blog was interesting enough to keep his attention during the fights |
| 00:12.26 | Jerub | I generally watch tv during combat. |
| 00:12.34 | ZorbaTHut | hah |
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| 00:16.45 | Amarande | Jerub: do you find the nearest patch of fire and get cozy, too? |
| 00:17.31 | Jerub | lol |
| 00:20.53 | Amarande | heh, priceless sports quote |
| 00:20.56 | Amarande | <@BurnEdOut> if I wanted to watch people run around pointlessly for hours on end I'd have kids |
| 00:23.25 | kd3 | the hell? a CG astroboy movie? |
| 00:23.30 | kd3 | cowers in fear |
| 00:23.50 | Jerub | kd3: :D |
| 00:26.40 | Arrowmaster | i used to code during raids, and do many other things during raids |
| 00:27.00 | Amarande | Arrow: then you got gkicked? :) |
| 00:27.07 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:29.25 | Arrowmaster | most outrageous thing i did during a raid had to of been playing halo with a friend that was in the same raid |
| 00:29.54 | Amarande | did he get gkicked? :) |
| 00:29.56 | Amarande | btw |
| 00:29.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:30.01 | Amarande | I really, really hope you're DPS. |
| 00:30.08 | Arrowmaster | we both were |
| 00:30.12 | Amarande | *whew* |
| 00:30.18 | Amarande | I'd hate to imagine a tank or healer doing such things |
| 00:30.37 | Arrowmaster | tank was playing bejeweled during a boss fight once |
| 00:31.35 | Jerub | oooh, bejeweled. gotta try that. |
| 00:31.46 | Amarande | and didn't wipe the raid? |
| 00:32.10 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:36.35 | ZorbaTHut | depending on the boss fight that might not be a problem at all |
| 00:36.42 | ZorbaTHut | I could probably do XT-002 with my feet if I had to |
| 00:37.29 | Amarande | Zorba, you are condemned to an eternity in Ignis' crotch |
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| 01:10.31 | WobWork | XT is pretty boring for the MT |
| 01:10.42 | WobWork | as is Kolo |
| 01:10.54 | WobWork | depending on if you have to swap tanks |
| 01:11.07 | WobWork | but XT is just swapping targets when needed |
| 01:12.11 | Shirik | wuwu |
| 01:12.13 | Shirik | has ice creams |
| 01:12.33 | WobWork | what flava? |
| 01:12.45 | Jerub | bear tanking is so few buttons as well. |
| 01:13.02 | WobWork | unmacro bearpaw |
| 01:13.19 | WobWork | (smash? bash? it's the bearpaw attack) |
| 01:13.47 | Jerub | maul. |
| 01:13.51 | WobWork | that's the bunny |
| 01:14.18 | WobWork | BEARPAW |
| 01:14.18 | Jerub | when i learned about how to macro maul, my single target tanking dps went from 1.5 to 2.5 |
| 01:14.35 | Jerub | and now 70% of my damage comes from it. |
| 01:14.59 | WobWork | survivability as a beartank is so much more at 75 than at 20 |
| 01:15.06 | WobWork | (in solo grinding) |
| 01:16.02 | Shirik | WobWork: Win flavor |
| 01:16.17 | Shirik | vanilla with Caramel and fudge covered waffle pieces |
| 01:16.26 | Shirik | topped with chocolate syrup and whipped cream |
| 01:20.15 | Jerub | Shirik: just needs some bacon and that'd be awesome. |
| 01:26.23 | mikma | i has plum flavored icecream |
| 01:29.33 | Sesshu | would someone answer me a question? |
| 01:29.53 | mikma | sesshu: yes. |
| 01:29.57 | Sesshu | good |
| 01:29.58 | mikma | ~asktoask |
| 01:29.59 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:29.59 | Sesshu | erm |
| 01:30.25 | Sesshu | ive hooked ChatFrame_messageEventHandler with my add on |
| 01:30.37 | Sesshu | now prat comes and destroys my hook |
| 01:30.55 | mikma | muhaha |
| 01:30.59 | Sesshu | even if i hook when PLAYER_LOGIN fires |
| 01:31.07 | Sesshu | erm |
| 01:31.21 | Sesshu | what can i do? |
| 01:32.13 | Sesshu | (if i hook ingame with /run it works) |
| 01:32.15 | mikma | uninstall prat |
| 01:33.04 | Sesshu | that would be a bad add on if the users have to uninstall their add ons |
| 01:35.35 | Sesshu | begins to cry |
| 01:37.10 | Sesshu | hates prat |
| 01:37.18 | Sesshu | grr |
| 01:41.47 | Shirik | why do you need to hook it? |
| 01:42.06 | ZorbaTHut | sesshu, I've done all sorts of various nasty things to dodge other UI mods or to hook explicitly after they do |
| 01:42.13 | ZorbaTHut | for example, you can delay hooking until after you know they've hooked |
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| 01:45.26 | Sesshu | (Shirik): because i found no another way to do that what i want |
| 01:47.09 | Sesshu | (ZorbaTHut): yea do you know when exactly ace does its hooks? PLAYER_LOGIN seems to be too early |
| 01:48.03 | mikma | have you tried a different approach? |
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| 01:48.50 | Shadowed | Sesshu yell at Prat to stop doing something it shouldn't be |
| 01:49.07 | Shadowed | then yell at users who keep using the outdated version |
| 01:49.22 | Sesshu | okay |
| 01:49.38 | Shadowed | It's better to just yell at the author than resort to a dirty hack |
| 01:50.19 | mikma | boycott prat |
| 01:50.27 | ZorbaTHut | sesshu, not a clue, sorry. |
| 01:50.32 | Sesshu | hm |
| 01:50.41 | ZorbaTHut | shadowed, my experience has been that if I yell at the author, I've got maybe a 10% chance of it being fixed |
| 01:50.45 | ZorbaTHut | if I just hack it, it gets fixed. |
| 01:50.56 | Shadowed | then tell people to use another mod? |
| 01:51.00 | ZorbaTHut | (I usually do both, rigged so the hack goes away cleanly if it gets fixed) |
| 01:51.05 | Shadowed | Adding hacks to your own code to fix others stupidity is silly |
| 01:51.05 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I could do that. |
| 01:51.08 | ZorbaTHut | alternatively, I could just fix it. |
| 01:51.17 | ZorbaTHut | why force people to choose between my mod and theirs? |
| 01:51.21 | Shadowed | What is Prat doing specifically Sesshu, it's just destroying your ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 01:51.39 | ZorbaTHut | hell, one of the files in QH is "cartographer_is_terrible.lua" |
| 01:51.44 | Shadowed | and? |
| 01:51.48 | Bruners | anyone know if there is an event fired when someone tosses a pumpkin head on you? |
| 01:52.00 | Shadowed | Bruners: Probably UNIT_AURA or COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED will fire |
| 01:52.06 | kd3 | bru; unit_aura at least |
| 01:52.12 | ZorbaTHut | if I competed with cartographer, I wouldn't get 100% of the users involved in the conflict. why not just fix the damn thing and be done with it? |
| 01:52.23 | Shadowed | Because it's silly and ugly? |
| 01:52.40 | ZorbaTHut | yah, see, I am more concerned with getting users, keeping them, and making them happy |
| 01:52.46 | ZorbaTHut | not everything worth doing is made of butterflies and sunshine. |
| 01:52.48 | Sesshu | ZorbaTHut |
| 01:52.52 | Sesshu | i love qh |
| 01:53.03 | Bruners | i like it qh but i dont use it |
| 01:53.03 | Sesshu | that was my first add on that i installed |
| 01:53.07 | Sesshu | ! |
| 01:53.36 | ZorbaTHut | (and oh god I can guarantee that QH is not made of butterflies and sunshine, unless they're some kind of horrible mutated postapocalyptic cyborg butterflies firing corrosive sunshine lasers) |
| 01:55.16 | ZorbaTHut | also, glad ya like it :) |
| 01:55.41 | Bruners | what was the command to reduce combat log radius thing ? |
| 01:56.09 | kd3 | it's fixed |
| 01:59.36 | Bruners | ZorbaTHut: how many people send in data to you btw? |
| 02:00.00 | ZorbaTHut | bruners, I'm not entirely sure of the number of people, but I get something on the order of 100 submissions per day |
| 02:00.29 | Bruners | nice |
| 02:00.39 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: I want to commission an artwork titled horrible mutated postapocalyptic cyborg butterflies firing corrosive sunshine lasers |
| 02:00.53 | ZorbaTHut | my source data is about 100 gigabytes at this point. |
| 02:00.59 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, if you do, I want a picture of it |
| 02:01.54 | ScytheBlade1 | my l4d teammates are terrible |
| 02:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | We're losing 2267 to 84 =[ |
| 02:02.20 | Amarande | do they afk much? |
| 02:02.25 | ScytheBlade1 | They're just bad |
| 02:02.33 | ZorbaTHut | scythe, one problem with l4d is that there's a point with skill differences where one side just makes zero progress |
| 02:03.07 | A-KO | haven't seen that |
| 02:04.08 | ZorbaTHut | if one side really knows what they're doing and the other side doesn't, you can occasionally basically pin them in the starter room |
| 02:04.32 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: yeah, done that. |
| 02:04.43 | Bruners | im guessing QH's accuracy is better now than it was at release |
| 02:04.44 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: I've killed them on the rooftop start on one level. |
| 02:05.11 | ZorbaTHut | bruners, just a little ;) |
| 02:05.16 | ZorbaTHut | what are you considering as "release"? |
| 02:05.16 | Jerub | ScytheBlade1: I do the same thing with l4d that i do with pugs. if they're scrubs, I leave before i get saved to the instance. |
| 02:05.22 | ZorbaTHut | it's possible it's gotten a near-complete rewrite since then |
| 02:05.31 | Bruners | release of wrath that is |
| 02:05.40 | Jerub | QH is going to be a totally different beast when we start getting quest pickup points in it. |
| 02:05.48 | ZorbaTHut | oh, yeah. yeah, the core is pretty much rebuilt since then |
| 02:05.54 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I really want to teach QH about quest chains |
| 02:06.13 | ZorbaTHut | it's a ways off, but it'll be amazing once I can do it |
| 02:06.14 | Bruners | i levled my DK to 80 and sent one data thingie then stopped using it |
| 02:06.26 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: well, get yourself a pocketfull of treats, and whap it on the nose if it doesn't follow the chain |
| 02:06.29 | ZorbaTHut | my ultimate-goal someday is to run it locally and tell it "okay find the shortest path for me to level from 1 to 80" |
| 02:06.31 | ZorbaTHut | "GO" |
| 02:06.31 | Jerub | I should get my wife to send her data in. she's doing loremaster at the moment. |
| 02:06.35 | ZorbaTHut | and see what it does |
| 02:06.47 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: that would be crack. |
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| 02:07.02 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: you could sell that as a book. on ebay. and have banner ads everywhere. |
| 02:07.03 | ZorbaTHut | I doubt I could ever get it efficient enough to do that realistically within WoW, but outside WoW, maybe |
| 02:07.04 | Bruners | doesnt that tekkub thing do that ? |
| 02:07.05 | Jerub | XD |
| 02:07.13 | ZorbaTHut | bruners, tekkub needs for people to enter routes manually |
| 02:07.26 | ZorbaTHut | in theory, QH can produce better and more customized routes than tourguide can |
| 02:07.35 | Amarande | I have EK loremaster and don't for some reason feel all that motivated to do Kalimdor loremaster *sigh* |
| 02:07.37 | Shadowed | Eh, not really |
| 02:07.39 | ZorbaTHut | in practice, QH tends to be better at short-term, but doesn't have the scope to deal with long-term |
| 02:08.02 | Jerub | yeah, huge path traversals would be painful. |
| 02:08.08 | Jerub | it'd be good to do it by region. |
| 02:08.11 | Shadowed | TourGuide is better with shortest paths because it actually has a human doing it which (generally) means it can help with skipping quests that are a waste of time or have too low drop rates |
| 02:08.20 | Jerub | "what's the shortest path to finishing Desolace" or something |
| 02:08.28 | Amarande | but Shadowed, we like finding Helcular's Rod! |
| 02:08.30 | Bruners | simply skip it :P |
| 02:08.31 | WobWork | eh, you'll alway need a human element |
| 02:08.35 | Shadowed | right |
| 02:08.38 | Shadowed | but the downside is it needs someone to write the initial guide |
| 02:08.42 | ZorbaTHut | wob, I don't see why you'd need that |
| 02:08.42 | Dagmar | Or guinea pigs |
| 02:08.54 | WobWork | cause there's no way you can train a program to determine frustration factor in regards to drops =) |
| 02:09.02 | Jerub | Feature I need is an addon that says, "you just picked up an annoying quest, it's annoying for THIS reason, just fyi." |
| 02:09.06 | ZorbaTHut | wob, sure ya can, you find out the drop rate and see how dense the creatures are |
| 02:09.06 | Shadowed | Nor can you actually get accurate drop rates |
| 02:09.09 | ZorbaTHut | and base it on that |
| 02:09.12 | ZorbaTHut | shadowed, you absolutely can |
| 02:09.25 | Dagmar | WobWork: Just give them a button that says "I'M PISSED" and downrank whatever leg they're on each time they click it. hehe |
| 02:09.25 | Jerub | considers writing that. |
| 02:09.27 | tekkub | you can't find drop rates of quest items accurately... |
| 02:09.29 | WobWork | but -your- frustration levels may be more tolerant of certain levels |
| 02:09.30 | Shadowed | Maybe if you have people already giving you data with code setup to specifically count mobs while people are on the quest |
| 02:09.32 | ZorbaTHut | tekkub, of course you can |
| 02:09.35 | ZorbaTHut | why wouldn't you be able to? |
| 02:09.38 | Shadowed | BUT that still requires people to actually gather you data in the first place |
| 02:09.47 | Shadowed | and as such, you are in the same place as TourGuide of requiring people to give you data first |
| 02:09.49 | tekkub | because none of the database sites track it accurately |
| 02:09.54 | Bruners | ZorbaTHut: because its random |
| 02:09.59 | ZorbaTHut | tekkub, I have Specific Things To Say about most database sites |
| 02:10.00 | tekkub | and the rate changes in wrath |
| 02:10.00 | WobWork | well, ZorbaTHut does have people giving info in |
| 02:10.05 | Jerub | hmm. I think I have finally figured out an addon i want to write. |
| 02:10.08 | ZorbaTHut | but in summary: they are all absolutely terrible and their coders should be fired, then shot |
| 02:10.11 | Shadowed | But that still requires people to send data in WobWork |
| 02:10.14 | ZorbaTHut | I could do a better job in my sleep. |
| 02:10.14 | Jerub | now! to learn about wow addons and relearn lua. |
| 02:10.22 | tekkub | and we've never gotten confirmation that the wrath rate change applied globally |
| 02:10.29 | WobWork | Shadowed: well given the userbase of QH |
| 02:10.32 | Shadowed | The wrath rate was said to only be in WoTLk zones I believe? |
| 02:10.33 | ZorbaTHut | just because every database site out there is crap doesn't mean it's impossible to do well. |
| 02:10.33 | WobWork | that could be possible |
| 02:10.42 | Dagmar | tekkub: from what I can tell it didn |
| 02:10.47 | WobWork | except the users will all never do the quests again directly |
| 02:10.51 | WobWork | only perhaps as alts |
| 02:10.53 | Shadowed | Right, but the same thing applies to TourGuide really |
| 02:11.01 | tekkub | most people don't think it did, but we've had no official blue word |
| 02:11.02 | Shadowed | you basically have to rely on quantity to get "accurate" drop data |
| 02:11.14 | ZorbaTHut | in any case, that's the genius of the automated solution, that a human could never do |
| 02:11.20 | Fisker | wtf |
| 02:11.22 | ZorbaTHut | imagine being able to just change a slider for how much irritation you'll tolerate |
| 02:11.25 | Fisker | looks like our server is fucked up |
| 02:11.28 | ZorbaTHut | an hour later, you get a customized route just for pretty ol' you |
| 02:11.36 | WobWork | watches Fisker slide the slider all the way to the left |
| 02:11.37 | Fisker | Orgrimmar is filled with people |
| 02:11.47 | Shadowed | Or you could have a database that is setup from the start to use the most efficient quests |
| 02:11.49 | ZorbaTHut | ROUTE: |
| 02:11.52 | tekkub | bluff >>> orgy |
| 02:11.53 | ZorbaTHut | 1) Quit WoW. |
| 02:11.56 | ZorbaTHut | 2) Install Progress Quest. |
| 02:12.00 | ZorbaTHut | 3) Watch numbers go up. |
| 02:12.10 | WobWork | is awesome at Progress Quest |
| 02:12.35 | ZorbaTHut | shadowed, define "efficient", though. it depends on your class, it depends on your spec, it depends on your tolerance for "Quest" vs "Grind", it depends on what drops you happen to find on the way, it depends on how much you'll spend on the auction house and how good your AH is |
| 02:12.38 | Amarande | Nah Zorba, PQ might be a little irritating. How about IdleRPG? :) |
| 02:13.11 | WobWork | Amarande: I'm too social for idlerpg |
| 02:13.24 | ZorbaTHut | is it worth going a little bit of the way to pick up a blue weapon when you're stuck using an ancient green? Yeah, probably. Is it worth going out of your way to pick up a blue weapon when you just picked up a level-capped green that is actually itemized better? No. |
| 02:13.33 | ZorbaTHut | automated solutions can deal with that sort of thing on the fly, at least in theory. |
| 02:13.36 | Shadowed | And that is missing the obvious anyway |
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| 02:13.42 | Shadowed | Questing from 1-58 is dead simple at this point |
| 02:13.47 | ZorbaTHut | no prebuilt leveling guide possibly could. |
| 02:13.48 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 02:13.56 | Shadowed | 58 - 68 arguably is a little harder, but not even with all the nerfs |
| 02:13.56 | WobWork | (er shadowed's point) |
| 02:14.04 | WobWork | and it'll continue to get easier |
| 02:14.05 | Shadowed | 68 - 80 is also dead simple and really does not have quests you would skip |
| 02:14.11 | ZorbaTHut | shadowed, it's not "simple" that I care about, though, it's "time-consuming" |
| 02:14.16 | ZorbaTHut | anything that makes it faster is better |
| 02:14.17 | Shadowed | It's the same thing |
| 02:14.21 | ZorbaTHut | no, it isn't |
| 02:14.24 | Shadowed | The simpler it is, the less time it takes |
| 02:14.25 | ZorbaTHut | count from one to one billion |
| 02:14.27 | Fisker | rage |
| 02:14.28 | ZorbaTHut | that is both simple and time-consuming |
| 02:14.33 | Shadowed | Context |
| 02:14.36 | Shadowed | C o n t e x t |
| 02:14.37 | ZorbaTHut | now prove the quadratic formula |
| 02:14.41 | ZorbaTHut | that is not simple, but is time-consuming. |
| 02:14.42 | ZorbaTHut | er |
| 02:14.44 | ZorbaTHut | but isn't |
| 02:14.46 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: not if you count in billions |
| 02:14.48 | WobWork | 1 |
| 02:14.50 | WobWork | 1 billion |
| 02:15.03 | mikma | over 9000? |
| 02:15.09 | ZorbaTHut | wob, true. and that's optimizing the problem to be less time-consuming, yet, if anything, slightly more complicated. ;) |
| 02:15.11 | Shadowed | About, 3-4 years ago leveling was not simple because you really had to find obscure quests and it was just in general a mess |
| 02:15.26 | WobWork | (context =)) |
| 02:15.26 | Shadowed | it was also a lot more time consuming |
| 02:15.41 | WobWork | oh god, 3-4 years ago |
| 02:15.46 | WobWork | what have we -done- with our lives? =P |
| 02:15.55 | Shadowed | Now? You don't have to do every single quest in every single zone and pray for the gaps in quest and WoTLK (and very likely Cataclysm) make leveling easier and simpler and not really require you to get frustrated because of gabs in quests |
| 02:16.06 | WobWork | STV was hell |
| 02:16.12 | Shadowed | So yes, in this context simpler means less time consumed |
| 02:16.30 | Shadowed | Really even TourGuide is less useful at this point as much as tekkub is awesome for it |
| 02:16.33 | Jerub | STV :( |
| 02:16.33 | ZorbaTHut | shadowed, I disagree in that conclusion, but all the original points are correct |
| 02:16.50 | Dagmar | STV was actually fine if you are a hunter |
| 02:16.54 | ZorbaTHut | it is both simpler and takes less time, even though the two are not directly linked |
| 02:17.07 | Shadowed | It's simple, as questing gets easier (and nobody can disagree that questing isn't easier) the need for mods that tell you where to go, goes down |
| 02:17.12 | Jerub | I never have trouble finding quests while levelling, but it'd be nice to know where the last few are, or when the quest density in an area is getting too low to be viable for levelling |
| 02:17.20 | Dagmar | Lots of fresh air, plenty of fuzzy animals to play with, pretty flars. |
| 02:17.21 | Shadowed | Once Blizzard implements there POI stuff, they really won't help that much |
| 02:17.41 | Shadowed | Really, even the new quest completion stuff will let you simply go "What quests in X zone have I not done yet" |
| 02:17.46 | Jerub | Shadowed: OTOH, there are a huge number of quests that are basically impossible without mods, or having thott open, to find out where to freaking do the quest |
| 02:17.59 | Shadowed | Yea Jerub, but that can be solved by a separate mod in 3.3 |
| 02:18.05 | tekkub | POI will make TG what Ialways wanted it to be, just an optomized path |
| 02:19.12 | WobWork | I had some slight trouble with quests in HF/BT |
| 02:19.19 | WobWork | because I wanted to keep certain costumes |
| 02:19.28 | WobWork | and so couldn't complete the requisite quests pertaining to them |
| 02:19.40 | Shadowed | Going sub 70 sucks too |
| 02:19.44 | WobWork | yeah |
| 02:19.55 | WobWork | well, kinda |
| 02:20.06 | Shadowed | It's faster, but it sucks cause you miss certain quests that are 70 or 71 only |
| 02:20.34 | Amarande | Do both HF and BT, then you don't have to worry about the greying of 70-71 quests |
| 02:20.53 | Shadowed | If you try and do every quest in the zone first you do! |
| 02:21.59 | Fisker | it's a ghosttown WobWork |
| 02:24.09 | ScytheBlade1 | 3880 to 183! |
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| 02:25.12 | Amarande | Shadowed: you're hitting 79 before you finish both of them? |
| 02:25.32 | Amarande | you must be grinding more than I do, I'm pretty sure I hit 79 in late Dragonblight or early Grizzly Hills |
| 02:25.41 | Shadowed | no pure questing |
| 02:26.03 | Shadowed | If I remember right, I was about 50% from 71 after doing HF at 68 but missed a few quests and then had to do a bunch of quests in BT |
| 02:26.44 | Amarande | ahh, you went at 68 and had to deal with missing quests that required higher |
| 02:26.47 | Shadowed | yea |
| 02:27.15 | Amarande | I went at 70, and my concern was getting all the quests done for both zones' achievements before I hit 79 and had to turn off my mining tracking in favor of Low Level Quest tracking to not miss things |
| 02:27.15 | Shadowed | After Dragonblight it was generally ok |
| 02:27.44 | Shadowed | eYea if you did every quest in both zones then I could see hitting 79 that early in |
| 02:27.47 | Shadowed | bah, stupid bold |
| 02:28.01 | Amarande | I was definitely 80 by Zul'Drak |
| 02:30.59 | kd3 | thinks back |
| 02:31.16 | Jerub | I hit 80 before storms peak / icecrown. |
| 02:31.16 | kd3 | I think I hit 80 halfway through grizzly hills... |
| 02:31.30 | Jerub | but I did the 'fire' quests at 72 I think. that boosted me at least a level |
| 02:31.40 | Jerub | midsummer? that festival |
| 02:31.43 | kd3 | 'course, writing the questing guides for the wiki based on alpha experience helped a lot... |
| 02:31.46 | Jerub | festivals are great for experience boosts |
| 02:32.15 | Fisker | i want to borderlands |
| 02:35.18 | kd3 | fail blizz; they called it 'outlands' |
| 02:35.53 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20566358390&sid=1 |
| 02:37.43 | Fisker | old |
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| 02:43.50 | Kraps | http://xkcdsucks.blogspot.com/ |
| 02:43.55 | Kraps | meh |
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| 02:45.48 | Sesshu | xkcd |
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| 02:54.00 | Fisker | slaps Sesshu around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:54.00 | Sesshu | slaps Fisker back with an unbelievably large trout |
| 02:54.02 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:54.04 | Fisker | slaps Sesshu around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:54.18 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 02:54.32 | Fisker | soups up Kraps |
| 02:54.36 | Sesshu | thought your trout was destroyed by kraps |
| 02:55.04 | Kraps | IT WAS THAT PARTICULAR TROUT |
| 02:59.41 | Fisker | naw |
| 03:02.09 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder if riding the Brewfest kodo in to SM is helping me avoid ganking |
| 03:02.34 | Sesshu | sure |
| 03:03.07 | Fisker | slaps ZorbaTHut around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:03.11 | Fisker | red is dead |
| 03:03.12 | Fisker | fuck your kodo |
| 03:03.31 | Sesshu | red is a color |
| 03:04.03 | Bruners | i need something to hook me up with different pets on my warlock since im hiding all buttons :S |
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| 03:05.27 | Fisker | Sesshu |
| 03:05.31 | Sesshu | Fisker |
| 03:05.34 | Fisker | you just ordered a thousand liters of milk |
| 03:05.41 | Sesshu | okay |
| 03:05.59 | ZorbaTHut | fisker, my theory is that the silhouette looks more hordey than it does alliancey |
| 03:05.59 | Sesshu | what milk? |
| 03:05.59 | Sesshu | from cow? |
| 03:06.03 | ZorbaTHut | especially considering that I'm male draenai, which has a reasonably tauren silhouette |
| 03:08.16 | Fisker | ZorbaTHut doesn't fool me |
| 03:09.27 | Shirik | wtf..... |
| 03:09.28 | Shirik | I got this quest |
| 03:09.39 | Shirik | Quest objectives: Discover the meaning of life.] |
| 03:09.42 | Shirik | That's it. |
| 03:09.47 | Sesshu | thats hard |
| 03:11.49 | Kraps | 42 |
| 03:11.51 | Kraps | bam |
| 03:11.59 | Sesshu | type this into chat to finish your quest "/run Sex()" shirik |
| 03:12.06 | Sesshu | i think that works |
| 03:12.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:15.17 | Amarande | Sesshu, pretty sure Sex() is a protected function |
| 03:15.17 | Amarande | and if you use Prat, chat is a tainted execution path I think :) |
| 03:15.51 | Sesshu | hmhm |
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| 03:17.55 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 03:17.59 | Fisker | wanna make out? |
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| 03:21.01 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 03:21.02 | Shirik | no |
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| 03:23.02 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 03:23.04 | Fisker | Why not? :( |
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| 03:23.25 | Tinyboom_ | trolls don't make good kissers? :p |
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| 03:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | http://3.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_krqo6zYhVG1qzbwavo1_500.jpg |
| 03:26.35 | Sesshu | lol |
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| 03:28.23 | Sesshu | table means penis aha.. thats why everybody is talking about tables so often |
| 03:29.00 | Fisker | will you come over and take a look at my table Sesshu ? |
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| 03:30.14 | Sesshu | okay |
| 03:30.20 | Sesshu | comes over |
| 03:30.25 | Sesshu | takes a look |
| 03:30.35 | Sesshu | hm can't see anything there |
| 03:30.48 | kd3 | rofl |
| 03:31.19 | Fisker | :( |
| 03:31.38 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 03:32.46 | Sesshu | fisker |
| 03:32.50 | Sesshu | WorF |
| 03:33.24 | Fisker | i hate worf |
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| 03:35.35 | Shirik | Nechckn ping |
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| 03:38.26 | Bruners | Fisker's bacon is small |
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| 04:00.01 | tem | Arrowmaster, ping |
| 04:00.10 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 04:00.23 | Arrowmaster | no fma isnt out yet |
| 04:00.26 | tem | you said earlier that FMA:B 28 would be out today |
| 04:00.29 | tem | why? |
| 04:00.42 | tem | do you know when they normally release? |
| 04:00.46 | Arrowmaster | well eclipse release isnt out yet but theres some other groups out |
| 04:00.56 | tem | oh are there other groups? |
| 04:01.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah but they probably suck |
| 04:01.14 | tem | When does the eclipse release usually come out? |
| 04:02.08 | Arrowmaster | normally it would be out by now i think but it should be out in 24 hours unless theres some major delay on their end |
| 04:02.12 | A-KO | I believe the next one is December 31st |
| 04:02.15 | A-KO | a partial eclipse |
| 04:02.20 | A-KO | :P |
| 04:04.29 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
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| 04:06.37 | Fisker | :( |
| 04:06.39 | Fisker | i'm disappoint |
| 04:07.06 | Sesshu | why |
| 04:08.13 | Fisker | i was liek "Hey Arrowmaster" |
| 04:08.20 | Fisker | and he didn't reply :( |
| 04:08.23 | Fisker | i'm so ronery |
| 04:08.30 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 04:08.56 | Sesshu | hm |
| 04:18.59 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: I really shouldn't follow your tumblr link, at work, should I? |
| 04:23.14 | Dagmar | It's actually not that bad |
| 04:23.36 | Dagmar | Unless you've got really strict (and I mean puritanic) regs there, the text won't get you in trouble |
| 04:23.40 | Dagmar | ...and it *is* text |
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| 04:34.17 | Mikk | I don't get the 3 digit number ones |
| 04:34.41 | Mikk | 143 = I love you 182 = I hate you |
| 04:34.42 | Mikk | wut? |
| 04:35.06 | Mikk | been trying 1337speak, t9 mappings... nothing is making sense |
| 04:35.11 | Mikk | reading upside down |
| 04:35.38 | Mikk | oh |
| 04:35.45 | Mikk | 1 letter word, 4 letter word, 3 letter word |
| 04:38.31 | Fisker | hate is an 8 letter word? |
| 04:38.32 | Fisker | awesome |
| 04:38.35 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 04:38.46 | Mikk | that one still isnt making sense to me :P |
| 04:38.53 | ZorbaTHut | I think "8" is "hate" because of what it sounds like |
| 04:38.56 | Mikk | 143 seems to be a pager-ism tho |
| 04:38.58 | ZorbaTHut | "2", I couldn't explain. |
| 04:39.35 | Mikk | pronounce it "tu" and make the "t" part of the "t" from "eit"? |
| 04:39.39 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.netlingo.com/word/182.php welp |
| 04:39.39 | Mikk | i-eittu |
| 04:39.43 | Fisker | well if you say it really quick 143 could be "I love thee" and 182 "I hate you" |
| 04:39.45 | Fisker | i guess |
| 04:40.50 | Mikk | nah 143 is definitely the letter counts |
| 04:40.59 | Fisker | goodbye cruel Mikk :( |
| 04:41.08 | Shirik | .......... |
| 04:41.15 | Fisker | goodday cruel Shirik |
| 04:41.17 | Shirik | I finished this quest, whose objectives were to "Discover the meaning of life" |
| 04:41.20 | Mikk | 831 is also "i love you" apparently |
| 04:41.26 | Mikk | "8 letters, 3 words, and 1 meaning." |
| 04:41.35 | Shirik | At the end of the quest, I determined "The meaning of life is to live" |
| 04:41.36 | Mikk | dem inventive teenagers |
| 04:41.38 | Shirik | wtf. |
| 04:41.45 | Mikk | 42 |
| 04:42.22 | Fisker | OH GREAT ADVICE AGAINST SCAREWARE |
| 04:42.30 | Fisker | "Log off a site when you're finished using it" |
| 04:42.39 | Mikk | heh |
| 04:42.49 | Mikk | well yeah it helps |
| 04:42.51 | Fisker | <-rage and bai |
| 04:43.09 | Mikk | if you're logged into a site with sensitive stuff |
| 04:43.16 | Mikk | and then go onto another site and get wtfpwnd |
| 04:43.24 | Mikk | it's got access to the site you're logged onto |
| 04:43.56 | Mikk | tho obviously it helps not one iota if you don't realize you've been wtfpwnd and later go to the sensitive site again ^^ |
| 04:44.22 | Mikk | but that's two different classes of vulnerability, really |
| 04:44.32 | Mikk | the first being cross-site scripting - everything happening inside your browser |
| 04:45.02 | Mikk | the second - assuming you restart your browser once in a while - would probably require deeper access |
| 04:45.32 | Mikk | now if someone would explain to me why i am tossing pearls to the swine |
| 04:45.39 | Mikk | goes to bed |
| 04:45.56 | Dagmar | Mikk: Because you have yet to become violently disenchanted with human intelligence |
| 04:46.21 | Mikk | dude |
| 04:46.22 | Mikk | i play wow |
| 04:47.03 | Dagmar | Keep going. It gets worse, trust me. |
| 04:47.52 | Dagmar | For me it was watching a high level manager throw a hard token on the desk and declare "I'm not carrying something like that around" when we were suggesting it was the sane way to protect assets worth many millions of dollars. |
| 04:48.21 | Dagmar | ...when he explicitly wanted access available from anywhere in the world. |
| 04:48.56 | Mikk | sorry, i work in itsec, you have to try harder to surprise me :P |
| 04:49.06 | Dagmar | I could. |
| 04:49.20 | Dagmar | It would involve divulging details I shoudln't tho. |
| 04:49.21 | Mikk | maybe i'm just so past the violently disenchanted bit that i forgot about it and kinda came out the other side |
| 04:49.25 | Dagmar | Could be |
| 04:50.09 | Mikk | because, yeah, i'm 100% convinced that there's people so boneheadedly stupid that the best thing you can do is steer clear of them |
| 04:50.09 | Dagmar | I'm somewhat comforting myself with the fact that it'll be a long freaking time before the masses get their mitts on I2 |
| 04:50.13 | Dagmar | hopefully |
| 04:50.46 | Mikk | so what, everything speaks both :P |
| 04:51.44 | Mikk | anyway i was going to bed |
| 04:51.48 | Mikk | goes to bed |
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| 05:18.02 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: I2? |
| 05:18.07 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 05:18.11 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 05:23.38 | tem | Whoever named the texture UI-PlusButton-Hilight deserves to be kicked in the shins |
| 05:25.51 | Thunder_Child | tem, how would you have named it? |
| 05:26.11 | tem | UI-PlusButton-HiGHlight |
| 05:26.16 | tem | like every other goddamn place in the UI |
| 05:26.30 | tem | I just chased this bug for 30 minutes because some guy can't spell the word Highlight |
| 05:26.40 | tem | *stab* |
| 05:26.55 | Shadowed | Pretty sure that's been in forever :< |
| 05:27.26 | tem | it probably has, but this is the first time I've run into it |
| 05:28.36 | Shadowed | like the Lanuage bug in the ChatFrame code a while back! |
| 05:29.19 | NightHawkTheSane | except less likely to be fixed? |
| 05:29.21 | Shadowed | yes |
| 05:29.44 | Shirik | I'm.... not sure you can call it a bug |
| 05:29.48 | Shirik | it works |
| 05:30.06 | NightHawkTheSane | and yet its still wrong :P |
| 05:30.13 | Shirik | how is it wrong? |
| 05:30.19 | Shadowed | Because it's Highlight not Hilight :p |
| 05:30.26 | Shirik | It's wrong in the same manner of people using letters a through z as variable names |
| 05:30.33 | Shirik | do you call that a bug? |
| 05:30.33 | NightHawkTheSane | goes into shiriks source code and misspells everything |
| 05:30.36 | Shadowed | pretty sure the Minus one is called Highlight too? |
| 05:31.26 | Shirik | I totally agree it's bad |
| 05:31.31 | Shirik | however calling it a "bug" is wrong |
| 05:31.34 | tem | Shadowed, the minus one doesn't exist |
| 05:31.37 | tem | you just use the plus one |
| 05:31.45 | tem | it's just a red glow |
| 05:31.57 | Shadowed | It's a poorly named file, that should be fixed but really won't :p |
| 05:32.04 | Shadowed | and likely isn't intended to be named that |
| 05:34.09 | Shirik | it was written that way intentionally just to spite tem |
| 05:36.06 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: the Lanuage one got fixed i thought |
| 05:36.11 | Shadowed | yea |
| 05:36.15 | Shadowed | Back in 3.0 or so I want to say |
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| 05:53.53 | tem | Arrowmaster, why are they so late with 28? :(((( |
| 05:54.47 | Arrowmaster | how should i know |
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| 06:01.20 | Cairenn | hey, Sargeras! |
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| 06:08.31 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Sargeras! |
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| 06:09.47 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Sargeras and Thunder-Child! |
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| 06:10.25 | Fisker- | welcome to the real world jackasses |
| 06:14.26 | Thunder_Child | crap, Cairenn remembered |
| 06:14.39 | Thunder_Child | though i would point out it's _ |
| 06:14.39 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:14.41 | Cairenn | yep yep |
| 06:14.50 | Cairenn | right :p |
| 06:14.56 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Sargeras and Thunder_Child! |
| 06:15.04 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 06:15.30 | Torhal | Fisker-: Why are you welcoming jackasses to a place in which you have never been? |
| 06:16.04 | Fisker- | IRC > Real World |
| 06:16.39 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 06:20.31 | Fisker- | soup Elkano |
| 06:22.15 | Elkano | feast Fisker- |
| 06:22.35 | Fisker- | steak Elkano |
| 06:24.29 | Elkano | sushi Fisker- |
| 06:27.21 | Fisker- | you win this round... |
| 06:29.15 | Shirik | I put way too many chocolate chips in these pancakes |
| 06:29.42 | Fisker- | :o |
| 06:29.43 | Bruners | that got me hungry |
| 06:30.02 | Fisker- | you got me hungry Bruners |
| 06:30.03 | Fisker- | FOR LOVE |
| 06:30.45 | Fisker- | http://bannerfarm.ace.advertising.com/bannerfarm/144356/bob-dk-40_160x600_061009.gif <-i'm sure home improvement ads on the wow forums will be a success |
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| 06:44.19 | Shirik | ugh |
| 06:44.21 | Shirik | Aion is evil |
| 06:44.23 | Shirik | eeevilll |
| 06:44.35 | Shirik | They give you this set of armor at 30, but you only get one piece of the armor |
| 06:44.49 | Shirik | If you want to get the full set, you have to level to 30 5 times (they're BoA) |
| 06:45.02 | Shirik | so you have to choose between leveling an alt and continuing to level to 50... |
| 06:45.34 | Jerub | I've heard of this Aion thing. Meh. |
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| 07:01.25 | Fisker- | kills Shirik with a trout |
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| 07:17.25 | Fisker- | Shirik |
| 07:17.40 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 07:17.44 | Shirik | you have been destroyed |
| 07:17.53 | Fisker- | You're the hero this channel needs |
| 07:18.42 | Jerub | so what do you think about my idea for an addon. it pops up when you've accepted a quest that's freaking annoying and tells you why it's annoying. |
| 07:19.27 | Jerub | like the BRD ones that require you run BRD multiple times, or rare-random-spawns-wtih-low-drop-rates |
| 07:19.56 | Shirik | lmao |
| 07:20.05 | Shirik | win |
| 07:22.20 | Jerub | Shirik: win? |
| 07:22.27 | Shirik | win |
| 07:22.45 | Jerub | Shirik: i think i just lost the game |
| 07:23.31 | Shirik | yes you did |
| 07:23.36 | Shirik | and by losing the game, I have now lost the game |
| 07:23.39 | Shirik | as did Fisker |
| 07:26.19 | Fisker- | fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuu- |
| 07:26.30 | Fisker- | i should never have tabbed in here :( |
| 07:26.51 | Jerub | now let this be a lesson to you both |
| 07:29.33 | Thunder_Child | lies Fisker-, lies |
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| 07:36.21 | Fisker- | lies wat Thunder_Child ? |
| 07:36.41 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, lies lie |
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| 07:46.40 | tem | I don't understand |
| 07:46.50 | tem | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Plot[1+-+0.8^(70+x),+{x,+0,+1}] |
| 07:46.55 | tem | that graph should never be negative |
| 07:46.59 | tem | ever |
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| 07:48.59 | Fisker- | never ever tem? |
| 07:49.19 | tem | for values of x (0,1) |
| 07:49.48 | Fisker- | noone is saying it's negative |
| 07:49.48 | tekkub | lern2yaxis |
| 07:49.51 | Fisker- | hohos |
| 07:55.04 | Fisker- | sup dawg |
| 07:57.10 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 07:57.11 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Aeyan a big kiss on the lips |
| 08:00.10 | krka | i find that sort of graphs to be misleading, plzgieforigo |
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| 08:02.38 | Fisker- | i could of course say the same about your mother krka |
| 08:02.39 | Fisker- | ;3 |
| 08:06.05 | Taroven | Grr at build errors, can't get my xbox controller working on linux >.< |
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| 08:13.18 | Fisker- | kills Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
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| 08:39.24 | Fisker- | FINALLY |
| 08:39.28 | Fisker- | a new battle report |
| 08:48.04 | DWSR | wow |
| 08:48.09 | DWSR | Lock T10 is badass |
| 08:48.24 | DWSR | Not quiet as cool at the T8, imo, but more than making up for the T9. |
| 09:10.56 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here have a spotify invite? |
| 09:10.56 | *** join/#wowuidev BWMerlin (n=chatzill@58.174.148.250) |
| 09:15.11 | Fisker- | what do you need an invite for? |
| 09:17.03 | jnwhiteh | so I can use it? |
| 09:19.07 | krka | i have |
| 09:19.12 | Fisker- | you're poor and irish? |
| 09:19.13 | krka | two actually |
| 09:19.19 | jnwhiteh | krka: mind sending one my way? |
| 09:19.22 | krka | sure |
| 09:22.16 | Fisker- | but jnwhiteh |
| 09:22.21 | Fisker- | are you rich and british? |
| 09:22.24 | Fisker- | aren't* |
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| 09:26.49 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: I am in fact neither rich or British |
| 09:27.21 | krka | neither _nor_ :P |
| 09:27.32 | jnwhiteh | indeed. |
| 09:28.39 | kaiden | Antiarc, was curious if you had ever thought of extending GBankSearch's capabilities to have the same search style that Bagnon supports (i find it very helpful for quickly finding items so thanks for such a great mod!) |
| 09:28.53 | Fisker- | But i thought you lived in teh uk jnwhiteh |
| 09:29.39 | jnwhiteh | I do? |
| 09:29.49 | jnwhiteh | that doesn't make me British |
| 09:30.55 | Fisker- | IP's doesn't care about your nationality |
| 09:31.06 | Fisker- | I just thought you lived in teh UK and therefor didn't need an invite |
| 09:31.19 | jnwhiteh | spotify requires an invite for any non-premium account |
| 09:33.01 | _rane | jnwhiteh: http://spotify.rejected.se/?proxy |
| 09:35.47 | kaiden | nice thanks _rane been wanting a spotify account :P |
| 09:36.53 | Cide | Shirik: ping |
| 09:37.05 | Shirik | Cide: semi-pong |
| 09:37.55 | Cide | semi-pong?! |
| 09:38.56 | Cide | http://dev.ctmud.net/media/img.png |
| 09:39.05 | Cide | why I needed the algorithm |
| 09:39.54 | Cide | not sure if you would classify that as a k-map or not but I don't think so given the wikipedia article :) |
| 09:41.49 | Fisker- | why so MUD Cide ? |
| 09:46.49 | Fisker- | yeah i decoded your cryptic url |
| 09:46.54 | Fisker- | what are you going to do now? |
| 09:48.00 | Fisker- | looks like he couldn't live with the shame |
| 09:50.02 | Cide | bathroom break! |
| 09:50.26 | Cide | the url is pretty public and has been posted here several times :P |
| 09:50.57 | Kalroth | I even signed up once! |
| 09:52.02 | Fisker- | lies |
| 09:52.02 | Fisker- | your plot is exposed |
| 09:55.00 | Cide | yep |
| 09:55.18 | Cide | I even showed you a portion of the world map! |
| 09:56.36 | Fisker- | you mean i decoded your mysterious url in a hypertext transfer protocol-capable client? |
| 09:57.06 | Fisker- | No technology is too advanced for your puzzles |
| 09:57.18 | Cide | yes, that's exactly what I mean |
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| 10:04.04 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.16 | Fisker- | Someone on the forums said he was hacked after merging to battle.net |
| 10:04.45 | Fisker- | and he found it very suspicious how he could suddenly get an e-mail trying to scam him if the e-mail, which was just created, was only used on Blizzard sites |
| 10:04.59 | Fisker- | Because when you're keylogged, it's obviously only typed in on blizzard sites |
| 10:05.00 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 10:05.10 | jnwhiteh | IM LOGGIN UR KEYS |
| 10:05.16 | jnwhiteh | srsly. |
| 10:05.34 | Fisker- | oh shit |
| 10:07.26 | Fisker- | where's my damn borderlands? |
| 10:07.37 | Fisker- | og robotusch du skylder mig tuuuuuuusind kroner |
| 10:07.42 | Taroven | 3 days, Fisker. 3 days... |
| 10:07.53 | Fisker- | no Taroven |
| 10:08.00 | Fisker- | 12 days |
| 10:08.02 | Fisker- | or 11 |
| 10:08.05 | Fisker- | can't remember the date |
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| 10:08.12 | Taroven | Dammit. |
| 10:08.18 | Taroven | Why was I thinking the 22nd? |
| 10:08.27 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 10:08.37 | Fisker- | consolefag releases are 20th in the us and 23th in eu |
| 10:08.41 | Taroven | I have it preordered on steam and everything. |
| 10:08.46 | Taroven | Ah. That'd explain it. |
| 10:08.47 | Fisker- | awesomepc are 26th/30th |
| 10:09.00 | Taroven | I just wanna know... WHY NO LINUX RELEASE. |
| 10:09.14 | Taroven | I do not wish to dualboot for one game, dammit. |
| 10:09.20 | Fisker- | hits Taroven over the fingers with a newspaper |
| 10:09.30 | Taroven | whimpers. |
| 10:10.03 | Taroven | And here I was, all excited that I'd finally made a full switch. -.- |
| 10:10.45 | Taroven | (okay, not technically, since W7 is still on the bigger OS HD partition, but still...) |
| 10:13.26 | Cide | you can easily do the full switch |
| 10:13.33 | Cide | just drop your linux partition |
| 10:13.53 | Taroven | Screw that. |
| 10:13.59 | Cide | suit yourself. |
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| 10:18.35 | smoke_ | play it in wine lol maybe it will work really good |
| 10:18.51 | Taroven | Doubt it, but hey, always worth a shot. =P |
| 10:19.21 | smoke_ | probably would work decently well, compatability is really good these days |
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| 10:37.20 | Fisker- | roro |
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| 10:50.56 | bleeter | Cairenn|afk: http://twurl.nl/h41wsw |
| 10:52.21 | Cide | bleeter: haha, awesome |
| 10:53.47 | Cide | it's missing lines though :/ |
| 10:55.56 | Cide | (but I still feel enlightened) |
| 11:08.04 | Fisker- | Cide |
| 11:08.09 | Cide | yes |
| 11:08.16 | Fisker- | i need you more than ever |
| 11:08.17 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 11:08.37 | Wobin | http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/10/19/turtle-wrench/ |
| 11:08.40 | Wobin | is pretty cool |
| 11:08.54 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 11:08.59 | bleeter | belts Fisker- |
| 11:09.01 | Wobin | bleeter, old meme is old |
| 11:09.19 | Wobin | Well if Fisker disagrees, we all know it's got to be good |
| 11:09.23 | Fisker- | lol |
| 11:09.27 | Fisker- | google ad is "L2DESIGN" |
| 11:09.28 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:09.32 | bleeter | Wobin: when you've been on the internet 15+ years, most memes are old ;) |
| 11:09.55 | bleeter | noobs though, and those friends who aren't noobs but are more.. noob friends... etc. etc. |
| 11:10.17 | Wobin | I don't like that flowchart =( |
| 11:10.22 | Wobin | I fall off the edge each time I sing it =\ |
| 11:10.32 | bleeter | sok |
| 11:10.35 | Wobin | at "And if you love me hold me tight" |
| 11:10.38 | bleeter | bonnie tyler prolly hates you |
| 11:10.50 | Wobin | She hates everyone |
| 11:11.08 | Wobin | Cause once upon a time, she was falling in love |
| 11:11.13 | Wobin | now she's only falling apart |
| 11:11.59 | Cide | true story |
| 11:12.16 | Cide | I do hope you've all seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIaz6zBz1go as well |
| 11:12.18 | Cide | best cover ever |
| 11:13.40 | Wobin | oh love that one |
| 11:15.56 | Wobin | although |
| 11:15.56 | Wobin | the pants are disturbing |
| 11:15.56 | Cide | not at all |
| 11:15.57 | Kalroth | disturbingly hot |
| 11:16.57 | Wobin | disturbing in how they're actually staying -up- |
| 11:17.44 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj-x9ygQEGA is still a classic though |
| 11:18.07 | Cide | indeed |
| 11:18.46 | Cide | the best part is that the singer is great at sounding like bonnie tyler |
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| 11:19.46 | Wobin | "I'll pose like Rocky tonight!" |
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| 11:23.05 | Wobin | hehe "Oversurprised guy!" |
| 11:23.38 | Wobin | I think out of all the "Literal Videos" that is one of the best |
| 11:24.14 | Wobin | along with Love is a Battlefield http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsZ-BMKVbSc&feature=channel |
| 11:24.38 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: its 'the best' |
| 11:24.39 | jnwhiteh | by far. |
| 11:24.44 | Wobin | aw |
| 11:24.50 | Wobin | Love is a Battlefield is pretty good =) |
| 11:24.53 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:24.56 | Wobin | with the 'choreographing' in the middle |
| 11:25.03 | jnwhiteh | but total eclipse of the heart is a fucked up video to begin with |
| 11:25.08 | Wobin | so true |
| 11:25.10 | Feueried | ֌ çà õóéÃÿ |
| 11:25.12 | Feueried | ^^ |
| 11:26.01 | jnwhiteh | I hadn't seen this one tho =) |
| 11:26.06 | jnwhiteh | but TEoTH is better =) |
| 11:26.10 | jnwhiteh | its the scond best, by far |
| 11:27.08 | Wobin | LiaBf go to 3:15 |
| 11:27.31 | jnwhiteh | almost there |
| 11:27.32 | Feueried | ñóê |
| 11:28.00 | Feueried | ïèçäåö âû îëåÃè |
| 11:29.00 | Elkano | in soviet russia, english speaks you... |
| 11:29.30 | Feueried | ok |
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| 11:30.46 | Shirik | that.... doesn't even look like a language |
| 11:30.58 | Shirik | I'm not aware of any languages that literally put an accent on every character |
| 11:31.12 | Shirik | unless my client is failing at printing them |
| 11:31.43 | Elkano | I'd guess it fails at printig kyrillian chars, most likely die to him using a different encoding |
| 11:31.55 | Feueried | && |
| 11:32.15 | Feueried | ??* |
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| 11:36.52 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuZwnC9rB-A&NR=1 |
| 11:39.24 | Feueried | êà êÿ òî ÷óø |
| 11:39.25 | Feueried | õ |
| 11:39.47 | Wobin | cyrillic? |
| 11:40.30 | Feueried | ? |
| 11:40.51 | Wobin | ! |
| 11:40.51 | Feueried | >__< |
| 11:41.03 | Feueried | ãîâîðè Ãîðìà ëüÃî) |
| 11:41.12 | Wobin | d^_^b |
| 11:41.26 | Feueried | ^(O_O)^ |
| 11:41.41 | Wobin | \O_O\ |
| 11:41.46 | Wobin | \O_O/ |
| 11:41.49 | Feueried | -_\\\ |
| 11:41.50 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.51 | Feueried | emo |
| 11:42.07 | Feueried | -_\\ |
| 11:42.07 | Wobin | woo, I got that! |
| 11:42.08 | Feueried | * |
| 11:42.24 | Feueried | .i. |
| 11:42.26 | Feueried | ^_^ |
| 11:42.40 | Wobin | o_O ? |
| 11:42.52 | Feueried | ñîñè Ãîãè |
| 11:43.06 | Wobin | >_< |
| 11:43.32 | Shirik | ok... |
| 11:43.34 | Shirik | that's enough |
| 11:44.11 | Wobin | we almost had some communication through smilies! |
| 11:44.13 | Feueried | I do not understand |
| 11:44.40 | Feueried | O_o |
| 11:45.29 | Wobin | well neither did we, really =) |
| 11:45.37 | Feueried | communication ? |
| 11:45.38 | Feueried | Â |
| 11:45.55 | Feueried | ûûû |
| 11:46.00 | Cide | rofl |
| 11:46.01 | Cide | get out of here |
| 11:46.26 | Feueried | ÿ òÿ ÃÃ¥ ïîÃèìà þ |
| 11:46.28 | Feueried | ú |
| 11:46.30 | Shirik | ok this is going nowhere |
| 11:46.48 | Cide | mass +v and +m |
| 11:46.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %*!*@i=*@pool-77-222-101-183.is74.ru] by Shirik |
| 11:46.55 | Shirik | er |
| 11:46.57 | Feueried | ÷î âû âîîáøå ãîâîðèòå )) |
| 11:47.06 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b %*!*@pool-77-222-101-183.is74.ru] by Shirik |
| 11:47.38 | *** part/#wowuidev Feueried (i=Ra1N_808@pool-77-222-101-183.is74.ru) |
| 11:47.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b %*!*@i=*@pool-77-222-101-183.is74.ru] by Shirik |
| 11:53.43 | Kalroth | \o/ |
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| 12:30.42 | Wobin | http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2009/10/brigaderio-brazilian-chocolate-truffles-recipe.html |
| 12:30.51 | Wobin | ... I feel the need to make these... |
| 12:35.34 | haste | I too feel a serious need to make those |
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| 12:41.06 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:41.06 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:41.08 | Fisker | slaps Pneumatus around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:41.19 | Fisker | See Lopeppeppy |
| 12:41.21 | Fisker | i didn't slap you |
| 12:41.29 | haste | velter Fisker. |
| 12:41.51 | Fisker | neeeei |
| 12:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | Just everyone else. *smile* |
| 12:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning to you too, Fisker. |
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| 12:49.55 | Wobin | actually http://thepauperedchef.com/2007/03/pasta_carbonara.html sounds awesome |
| 12:50.07 | Wobin | none of this stupid cream in carbonara |
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| 13:27.38 | Kraps | good blue monday |
| 13:28.55 | Cide | I'm off another 7 days |
| 13:31.23 | Fisker | cries for Cide |
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| 13:41.18 | Ose | okay, what's the fastest/best method to install wow on this vista machine? |
| 13:41.20 | Ose | do I really have to go through all the CD's, DVD's and patches? |
| 13:42.09 | olafski | or download it |
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| 13:42.30 | Ose | from where? |
| 13:42.42 | Ose | hmm |
| 13:42.49 | olafski | account management has a link to the web installer I think |
| 13:42.55 | Ose | "The WOTLK DVD will install the ENTIRE game if you don't have anything on your computer. AKA, you don't need to bother with installing the original game, then Burning Crusade. WOTLK DVD installs everything at once." really? |
| 13:43.01 | olafski | and I think the wotlk dvd has all the data from wow+tbc too so you won't need to get those |
| 13:43.11 | Ose | nice |
| 13:43.23 | olafski | you'll still be downloading upwards of a gb of patches then though |
| 13:43.34 | Ose | okay, so I need the wotlk DVD and a decent patch mirror |
| 13:43.51 | olafski | yep or the webinstaller :) I'd go for that, but dunno what kind of connection you have |
| 13:44.25 | Ose | not that good |
| 13:44.26 | Ose | wifi |
| 13:44.26 | Wobin | Ose, the fastest way? |
| 13:44.33 | Wobin | is to copy an already existing copy across =P |
| 13:44.40 | olafski | that works too ;) |
| 13:44.48 | Ose | I know, but my main comp crashed |
| 13:44.57 | Wobin | You can't hook up the HDD? |
| 13:45.00 | Ose | won't start, actually |
| 13:45.03 | olafski | wifi is local though.. usually the internet connection will be the bottleneck I'd guess |
| 13:45.24 | Wobin | sure, but you might be able to still access the drive if you manually plug it in not as the boot disk |
| 13:45.34 | Ose | not when its at support :P |
| 13:45.59 | Wobin | in that case, yeah, wotlk cd |
| 13:46.06 | Wobin | and predownload the patches |
| 13:46.07 | Ose | besides, it might have been the HDD that went bork |
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| 13:46.15 | Ose | my guess is the motherboard though |
| 13:46.20 | olafski | http://wowwiki.com/Patch_mirror |
| 13:46.26 | Wobin | You'll have to cycle through all the patch mirrors to be able to download them all |
| 13:46.35 | Wobin | cause the majority of them only allow one download from the site at a time |
| 13:46.38 | Ose | olafski: -s |
| 13:46.53 | olafski | oh.. dang thought it was without the s |
| 13:46.57 | olafski | makes sense of course ;p |
| 13:48.29 | Ose | which is the "first" patch after wotlk install? |
| 13:48.37 | Ose | 3.0.1? |
| 13:49.16 | olafski | just get the complete one for 3.2 if it exists |
| 13:50.13 | olafski | 3.x.x → 3.2.0 Complete Patch (~1.2-1.6 GiB) |
| 13:50.14 | olafski | those |
| 13:50.15 | Ose | oh dear |
| 13:50.24 | Ose | I need to install a torrent client...' |
| 13:50.33 | olafski | there are non-torrent downloads too |
| 13:50.45 | Ose | meh |
| 13:53.06 | Ose | olafski: know which ones? |
| 13:53.20 | olafski | the ones not marked with "this is a bittorrent download"? :P |
| 13:53.33 | olafski | I assume those icons are added properly anyway |
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| 14:13.23 | Ackis | good morning everybody |
| 14:14.06 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi, Ackis. How's the outdoor kitty family? |
| 14:14.36 | olafski | hai ackiski |
| 14:14.37 | Sesshu | good morning |
| 14:14.47 | Ackis | not sure, only seen one fluffy one over the weekend and the mom, second one is shy and super hidy |
| 14:14.53 | Ackis | (the one we see is a lazy bastard) |
| 14:14.58 | Lopeppeppy | But you saw them, that's something. |
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| 14:31.51 | Ackis | why are all the hot chics on twitter spam bots?!?!?!?!!?!?! |
| 14:31.52 | Ackis | heheh |
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| 14:32.04 | olafski | :< |
| 14:32.12 | Ackis | olafski: you busy person! :P |
| 14:33.09 | olafski | always |
| 14:33.19 | olafski | I just have that to keep certain people from talking to me |
| 14:33.22 | Ackis | oh I forgot to say by busy I meant asshole! ;) |
| 14:33.24 | Ackis | hehe |
| 14:33.25 | olafski | like people I don't really know but have me added |
| 14:33.26 | Ackis | like me? :( |
| 14:33.34 | olafski | no :P |
| 14:33.39 | olafski | there are people I know even less on my list |
| 14:33.41 | Ackis | eh I delete people I don't know |
| 14:33.47 | olafski | my parents too |
| 14:33.50 | olafski | they will just believe that I'm busy |
| 14:34.06 | olafski | and as an added bonus I don't get sounds when someone talks to me, though I can of course just turn those off |
| 14:34.16 | Ackis | hehe |
| 14:34.28 | olafski | just something I retained from the icq days where I was always set to not available |
| 14:39.26 | Tepel | Basic Question: How do I return only the first part of a string.gsub() operation |
| 14:39.43 | Tepel | As in, I don't want the number of replacements |
| 14:41.04 | Tepel | Aha! |
| 14:41.06 | Tepel | Nevermind! |
| 14:41.24 | olafski | lua> select(1, string.gsub("lol", "o", "O")) |
| 14:41.25 | lua_bot | olafski: lOl, 1 |
| 14:41.28 | olafski | hm. :P |
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| 14:45.20 | Tepel | Hmm, is it possible to modify the text of a profession link? |
| 14:45.35 | Tepel | I've got it working locally but I can't send it correctly |
| 14:47.42 | Tepel | I'm guessing there's some kind of validation going on |
| 14:49.36 | Cide | yup. |
| 14:49.48 | Cide | you can change it as much as you'd like as long as it reminds valid |
| 14:49.53 | olafski | I doubt it.. just like you can generate an item link with a random name on your end but once you link it other people will just see it as the normal item link |
| 14:49.55 | Cide | for some definition of valid |
| 14:50.00 | olafski | oh hm |
| 14:50.33 | Cide | for example, an item link is still valid if the name is changed to the name of the item in another language |
| 14:50.34 | Fisker | mr. olafski |
| 14:50.38 | Fisker | you are a bad bad person |
| 14:50.41 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 14:50.47 | Fisker | saw David Kim fucking up some protoss? |
| 14:50.59 | Cide | I didn't see it yet, is it good? |
| 14:51.22 | Fisker | it's fucking awesome! |
| 14:51.29 | Fisker | it has nukes in it |
| 14:52.04 | Cide | nice. |
| 14:53.49 | olafski | I sure am |
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| 14:54.18 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 15:01.12 | Ackis | bah |
| 15:01.13 | Ackis | bah |
| 15:01.15 | Ackis | humbug |
| 15:01.42 | Ackis | I look at this regexp: (.+)L[\"(.+)\"](.+) and my first thought is boobies, my second thought is why won't this work :( |
| 15:04.38 | olafski | my first thought is "wtf I hate regex" |
| 15:07.37 | zenzelezz | I love regular expressions |
| 15:08.17 | Fisker | http://i35.tinypic.com/259elbd.png <-Heavy Rain - Masturbation Simulator |
| 15:08.37 | Ackis | zenzelezz: o rly? |
| 15:08.46 | krka | nothing regular about them |
| 15:08.47 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 15:08.54 | olafski | me too actually zenzelezz, as in they can do great stuff but it always takes me ages to figure out which expression I really need :P |
| 15:09.11 | Ackis | I'm trying to segregate everything that's L[" foo "] in a document (aka pull out all the localization phrases in a segment of code |
| 15:09.11 | zenzelezz | olafski: yeah, I know what you mean |
| 15:09.18 | Ackis | yah that's my issue too :P |
| 15:09.31 | zenzelezz | which flavor regex are you using? |
| 15:09.41 | Ackis | notepad++ regexp |
| 15:09.42 | Ackis | whatever that is |
| 15:09.43 | olafski | I'd say one reason that might not work is that you haven't escaped the [] |
| 15:09.45 | zenzelezz | I thought most required you to escape the [] if they're not meant to define a class |
| 15:09.47 | zenzelezz | bah! |
| 15:09.50 | olafski | hah |
| 15:09.53 | zenzelezz | verbosity made me lose again |
| 15:10.31 | olafski | you're trying to remove localization? oO |
| 15:10.54 | Ackis | olafski: yes that was my issue I forgot to escape the [] |
| 15:10.58 | olafski | ^^ |
| 15:10.59 | Ackis | olafski: isolate it |
| 15:11.16 | olafski | hm. but you're also "returning" the pieces around the L["bla"] |
| 15:11.17 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:11.33 | olafski | so in essence stripping out L[" and "] |
| 15:11.40 | olafski | or perhaps I'm reading this all wrong |
| 15:12.05 | Ackis | .+\L\[\"(.+)\"\].* -> L["\1"] |
| 15:12.17 | olafski | ahh |
| 15:12.20 | Ackis | aka Line 973: ttAdd(0, -1, 0, L["Achievement"], addon:hexcolor("NEUTRAL"), v["Achievement"], addon:hexcolor("NEUTRAL")) -> L["Achievement"] |
| 15:12.38 | Legorol | is there an API call to get a hyperlink to a quest that you don't actually have in your log, if you know it's ID? |
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| 15:12.42 | Legorol | similar to GetSpellLink or GetItemInfo |
| 15:12.54 | olafski | only thing that looks odd to me is that you escaped the \L |
| 15:13.06 | Ackis | olafski: yah that was a typo hehe |
| 15:13.19 | Ackis | Legorol: don't think so unless it was added in 3.3 |
| 15:13.20 | olafski | legorol: can you get an item link from an item id? |
| 15:13.29 | Legorol | yes |
| 15:13.32 | olafski | oh. doh :P |
| 15:13.39 | olafski | misread the api page there.. nice |
| 15:14.12 | olafski | zomg my realm is down |
| 15:16.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. |
| 15:18.07 | olafski | bound to happen eventually I guess ;) |
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| 15:23.23 | Grum | Ackis: what language are you doing this in? |
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| 15:27.13 | Ackis | Grum: huh? |
| 15:27.24 | Grum | you were doing ugly broken regexes :P |
| 15:27.41 | Ackis | notepad++ |
| 15:28.00 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 15:28.03 | Fisker | ~notepad++ |
| 15:28.09 | Fisker | ~karma notepad |
| 15:28.09 | purl | notepad has karma of 10 |
| 15:28.14 | Fisker | ~karma notepad++ |
| 15:28.14 | purl | notepad++ has neutral karma |
| 15:28.19 | Fisker | ~notepad++++ |
| 15:28.21 | Grum | ~karma Fisker |
| 15:28.21 | purl | fisker has karma of 3 |
| 15:28.26 | Fisker | ~karma notepad++ |
| 15:28.26 | purl | notepad++ has karma of 1 |
| 15:28.27 | Grum | fisker-- #fail |
| 15:28.28 | Fisker | :3 |
| 15:28.46 | Lopeppeppy | Woo-hoo, any Mac users out there with Office 2008 who can answer a question for me? |
| 15:28.58 | Fisker | install windows |
| 15:28.59 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: Kaelten is a mac user |
| 15:29.02 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 15:29.05 | Grum | Ackis: humz i guess you didnt encounter any entries which had multiple on 1 line? or or is '+' by default non-greedy in notepad++? |
| 15:29.09 | Fisker | _install windows_ |
| 15:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker dear, I have Windows, that's why I need someone **ELSE** to answer said question. Dur! |
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| 15:29.43 | Fisker | well that is still the answer |
| 15:29.44 | Fisker | durr! |
| 15:29.51 | Ackis | Grum: I use http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html as a reference, and I encountered a few that had multiple localizations on a single line but I dealt with them manually |
| 15:29.58 | Fisker | btw |
| 15:30.55 | Grum | i guess the ones with multiple went from: L["asd"] = L["fisker"] into 'asd"] = L["fisker' ? :) |
| 15:31.06 | Fisker | ~kiss Fisker |
| 15:31.07 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker to give batrick a big kiss on the forehead |
| 15:31.15 | Fisker | take that batrick |
| 15:32.46 | Sesshu | fisker? |
| 15:32.54 | Sesshu | when do you go to bed? |
| 15:32.58 | Grum | he is a robot |
| 15:33.04 | Sesshu | oh |
| 15:33.05 | Grum | very sophisticated |
| 15:33.05 | Sesshu | okay |
| 15:33.21 | Fisker | i can fill captchas |
| 15:33.25 | Fisker | just not rapidshare's |
| 15:33.33 | Lopeppeppy | Negative, he is a meat popsicle |
| 15:34.04 | Grum | Lopeppeppy: but then he has use ;( |
| 15:34.07 | Grum | dont do that ;( |
| 15:35.13 | Ackis | Fisker has many uses |
| 15:35.51 | Sesshu | does fisker have any commands? |
| 15:36.22 | Ackis | suck, lick, etc |
| 15:36.31 | Fisker | ~kiss Fisker |
| 15:36.32 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker to give Kemayo a big kiss on the hand |
| 15:37.31 | Fisker | nice |
| 15:37.56 | Fisker | someone arguing that if he's at a lan party with friends typing in your e-mail to login allows it to be easily compromised |
| 15:37.59 | Fisker | some friends he got! |
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| 15:40.10 | Grum | right, if someone runs upto you with a knife ... i guess that is a way as well ... |
| 15:40.13 | Grum | lets not go outside anymore! |
| 15:40.23 | Grum | or better, ban all knive.... people! |
| 15:40.57 | olafski | hmm when I use "/ace list all" it even shows addons which I have disabled in my char selection screen.. how does that work, are they still registered in ace? |
| 15:41.46 | Fisker | "butts" |
| 15:41.48 | Fisker | teehee |
| 15:41.57 | Fisker | was that helpful olafski ? |
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| 15:43.26 | Ackis | fyi collectinator now has stuff in the localization app |
| 15:43.28 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/addons/collectinator/localization/phrases/ |
| 15:45.28 | olafski | localization app.. niice |
| 15:45.34 | olafski | maybe I'll add localization too ;) |
| 15:45.40 | doobius | ackis are you using lua to parse? |
| 15:46.40 | doobius | nvm |
| 15:46.52 | Ackis | doobius: with that regexp? I was just using w/e notepad++ had lol it's all done now though :) |
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| 15:52.41 | Fisker | pulls down Ackis' pants for maintanence |
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| 15:53.05 | Ackis | am I gay if that turned me on? |
| 15:53.11 | Ackis | ~lart Fisker |
| 15:53.11 | purl | rm -rf's Fisker |
| 15:55.21 | Fisker | ~lart Ackis |
| 15:55.21 | purl | whips out his power stapler and staples Ackis's foot to the floor |
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| 16:04.20 | cog|sleep | station |
| 16:05.40 | Lopeppeppy | Cog and Lunessa, either of you have Mac Officd 2008 to answer a question for me? |
| 16:05.46 | Lopeppeppy | Station, dudes! |
| 16:05.57 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I have it installed on this box |
| 16:06.21 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa -- can one save a file as a text file in Word 2008? |
| 16:06.28 | cogwheel | Macs are too 'spensive and inflexible imo. |
| 16:06.39 | Lunessa | Yes. File, Save AS . Text |
| 16:06.42 | cogwheel | well, less inflexible these days, but still |
| 16:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | Thank the lord and hallelujah, I love you for the rest of my natural life, Lunessa. |
| 16:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | The un-natural life was already spoken for. <.< |
| 16:07.27 | Lunessa | Actually it's "Plain Text" for the format in the save dialog. |
| 16:07.42 | Fisker | i have a better solution |
| 16:07.49 | Fisker | Read, Read, Read |
| 16:08.17 | Lopeppeppy | And the text editor on mac is Text Pad, yes? |
| 16:09.19 | cogwheel | I can (mostly) understand belief in god for reasons of tradition, upbringing, emotional comfort, personal experience, etc... But "I asked a Ouija board and it said 'yes'" ????? I mean, really??? |
| 16:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | Oiuja boards lie, everyone knows that. Go watch witchboard |
| 16:09.54 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: TextEdit |
| 16:10.38 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, me love you long time. You've given me the ammunition to blast my coworkers into orbit and bury them deep. I'm so TIRED of cleaning up their Word 2008 crap! :) |
| 16:11.10 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It can also save as HRML |
| 16:11.12 | Lunessa | HTML |
| 16:11.12 | kdtresh | .docx can die |
| 16:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | We useth not the HTMLs. |
| 16:12.05 | Lopeppeppy | And yes, docx can go die in a very long slow fire. |
| 16:12.27 | Lopeppeppy | From now on they are just going to be required to send me plain text files. End of story. I'm tired of editing their crap. |
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| 16:12.52 | kdtresh | the latest thing i've been getting is people taking screenshots, pasting them into docx files, and emailing them to me |
| 16:13.00 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: The default format for TextEdit is rich text, you have to tell it to "make plain text" |
| 16:13.57 | Fisker | kd3|hate`net |
| 16:13.59 | Fisker | kdtresh |
| 16:14.00 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 16:14.57 | olafski | one of my professors supplied an assignment in .doc and then demanded the solutions (which would be a picture) would be handed in as pdf because it's portable (png isn't? lol). I made a screenshot, blew it up to 50k*50k in photoshop and put that on one A4 page with latex.. hf opening my 100mb pdf sir :> |
| 16:15.02 | Lopeppeppy | Is good, Lunessa. *big hugs* |
| 16:15.32 | Lopeppeppy | kdtresh, I got the plugin that allows me to open their crappy docx files, but for cut/paste I need text only, and I'm going to try hard to make that point today in the staff meeting. |
| 16:15.33 | Lopeppeppy | Try hard. |
| 16:15.40 | nevcairiel | olafski: i would make you fail the assignment because it didn't contain any text whatsoever :P |
| 16:16.09 | olafski | why would it need to contain text :< |
| 16:16.09 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Are you using Office 2003? |
| 16:16.12 | olafski | he wanted a screenshot as pdf |
| 16:17.03 | nevcairiel | well i would find a reason if someone wants to be a smart ass :P |
| 16:17.08 | olafski | :P |
| 16:17.20 | olafski | that sounds like a better reason ;) |
| 16:18.32 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, yes. *sigh* |
| 16:18.41 | Lunessa | We ask students to use PDF format a lot for large documents - especially for those that contain scans of hand-written materials. We provide the software in all our labs. It's a server-sapce issue. |
| 16:19.03 | Lunessa | comforts Lopeppeppy and offers oatmeal raisin cookies. |
| 16:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | They have 2008. I can convert and see their stuff, but the freakin' posting on the web of word-background-code corrupted 2008 crap has gotta stop. I'm tired of fixing all their trash. :) |
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| 16:19.14 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, cookies. Needs more cookies! |
| 16:19.25 | olafski | I can see that.. but my point is - why ask for a pdf when a png would have done the job, and why give us an assignment in .doc but demand that we use a portable format :< |
| 16:19.59 | durcyn | pdf is close enough to an open format at this point that i wouldn't complain about it nearly as much as i'd complain about .doc |
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| 16:20.58 | nevcairiel | pdf has portable in its name, it must be good |
| 16:21.18 | durcyn | more like it's been sufficiently reverse engineered =P |
| 16:21.46 | Lunessa | olafski: People who've always had access to Office tend to think of it as ubiquitous. And not every application supports PNG - many students would turn in a BMP, TIFF, GIF or JPG file and complain that 'reading it is your problem.' |
| 16:22.41 | Lunessa | I'm not saying his assignment plan was good, just that he probably had his reasons - even if they were flawed. |
| 16:23.04 | krka | if someone asks for portable format, they should know what portable format means |
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| 16:26.44 | Thrae | If you're building a new gaming computer anytime within the next 4 months, please use a Lynnfield processor. Thank you. |
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| 16:27.04 | Cide | huh? |
| 16:27.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: yessir. |
| 16:27.38 | Fisker | slaps Thrae around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:27.43 | Fisker | screw you! |
| 16:28.12 | Fisker | i'm not gonna be part of your system |
| 16:34.03 | Lunessa | Thrae: Why? |
| 16:34.59 | Thrae | Lunessa: Lynnfield i7 8xx costs about the same for a slightly higher clock speed, lower power consumption, lower temps, and has the new on-die PCIe design which allows far faster communication with your video card(s). And it also goes back to dual channel, so you don't have to worry about getting 3 sticks instead of 2. The dual channel bandwidth is about the same as the tri-channel. |
| 16:35.30 | Lunessa | Thrae: Sounds like good reasons. |
| 16:43.26 | Fisker | durr Thrae |
| 16:43.26 | Fisker | you don't have to worry about getting 3 sticks regardless |
| 16:43.32 | Fisker | also good luck upgrading to gulftown |
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| 16:55.01 | Kraps | im home alone |
| 16:55.10 | cogwheel | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! |
| 16:55.42 | zenzelezz | Kraps: and naked? |
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| 16:56.11 | Kraps | zenzelezz: no? |
| 16:56.18 | zenzelezz | then you're doing it wrong |
| 16:57.08 | Ackis | ^ |
| 16:58.29 | Kraps | whatever, weirdos |
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| 17:01.35 | Kraps | watching transformers 2, no complaining about the plot please, i'm watching to see robots blow shit up, and megan fox, in that order |
| 17:02.02 | Ackis | with robots blowing shit up do you REALLY need a plot? |
| 17:02.15 | Kraps | exactly |
| 17:02.42 | Kraps | shia lebouf has some pretty good lines too |
| 17:03.07 | Ackis | I can't respect a dude named shia |
| 17:07.27 | olafski | :D |
| 17:07.30 | olafski | awesome movie |
| 17:07.41 | Cide | in that order? |
| 17:07.41 | Ackis | olafski: I completed nhl 2k7 last night, well all the achievements that are obtainable |
| 17:07.46 | Cide | where's your megan foxvision? |
| 17:08.00 | olafski | gz ackis :P |
| 17:08.09 | Kraps | Cide: wazzat |
| 17:08.11 | olafski | I completed They Love Me In That Tunnel :P |
| 17:08.15 | Cide | ~kraps-- |
| 17:08.33 | Kraps | thats cold man |
| 17:09.09 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsd5aw8oas |
| 17:10.08 | Kraps | ive seen that one, rewatching |
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| 17:11.52 | Kraps | hehe |
| 17:22.59 | Lunessa | You should see her SNL appearance where she talks about all her naked pictures on the internet. |
| 17:23.59 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (n=doingwha@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
| 17:24.11 | DWSR | Hey all, looking for a mod that tracks XP gains per hours. |
| 17:24.12 | DWSR | hour* |
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| 17:26.39 | kdtresh | fubar_experiencefu |
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| 17:27.15 | DWSR | That's not a mod. |
| 17:27.17 | DWSR | It's a disaster. |
| 17:27.20 | DWSR | Fubar blows. |
| 17:28.17 | Cide | agreed; it's totally fubared. |
| 17:28.30 | Ackis | lulsz |
| 17:28.35 | Dagmar | And yet, it has a crapload of minimal screen estate informational mods for it |
| 17:28.39 | Ackis | fubar2broker |
| 17:28.52 | DWSR | Ackis: Which doesn't always work |
| 17:29.01 | Ackis | DWSR: better than nothin |
| 17:30.07 | DWSR | any other suggestions? |
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| 17:42.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i like how my coworker comes in, turns the thermostat up to 80, opens a window, and leaves the door open. |
| 17:43.01 | NightHawkTheSane | cries |
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| 17:43.46 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 17:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | Yah, that makes total sense, NHTS. Not. |
| 17:45.06 | NeoTron | he wants a nice warm breeze |
| 17:45.20 | NeoTron | not warm, non-moving static air |
| 17:45.21 | NeoTron | of course |
| 17:46.02 | Lunessa | Sounds like he wants to discover sharp implements protruding from his back. |
| 17:46.18 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.19 | Ackis | wow |
| 17:46.35 | NeoTron | ~wtf NHTS |
| 17:46.52 | nevcairiel | NHTS = NightHawkTheSane |
| 17:47.08 | NeoTron | doh :P |
| 17:47.15 | Cide | really? |
| 17:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, Ackis. Just wow. |
| 17:48.00 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I'm not that smart at times |
| 17:48.00 | Lopeppeppy | I got my boyfriend a brain cell plushie for his birthday, maybe I'll send you two! |
| 17:48.00 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:48.26 | Cide | I got my girlfriend two of those |
| 17:48.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sooooo gonna pay for getting one for him. *grin* |
| 17:48.39 | Cide | well, bacteria and not brain cells |
| 17:48.41 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: dur? |
| 17:48.53 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof, reminds me to actually freakin' wrap the presents sometime soon. |
| 17:49.03 | Cide | it was recently cited as "the best present ever' |
| 17:49.43 | Lopeppeppy | I go now for uber staff meeting! brb! |
| 17:50.37 | Ackis | have ufn |
| 17:50.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, thanks for pinging me like six times there guys :p |
| 17:51.12 | nevcairiel | you're welcome |
| 17:52.04 | Fisker | Nigger hates to speak |
| 17:52.06 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:52.07 | Fisker | NightHawkTheSane |
| 17:52.21 | Fisker | i suck |
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| 17:54.56 | nevcairiel | man amazon should really sell those bacteria things, i might've bought one :P |
| 17:58.08 | Ackis | bad Fisker bad |
| 17:58.22 | Dagmar | Damn these humorless people |
| 17:58.58 | Dagmar | I see on CNN an awesome halloween costume, it's got a grey alien mask and an orange jumpsuit that says "Illegal Alien" and comes with a green card in alien heiroglyphs |
| 17:59.12 | Dagmar | I can't buy it because someone whined that it was racist, and Target took it off their site |
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| 18:00.59 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Don't you know? Anything that offends anyone is bad for business. |
| 18:01.29 | Dagmar | I think perhaps they've overlooked scifi fans like me to which such things would be _good_ for business |
| 18:01.49 | Dagmar | I'm Googling right now for somewhere else to buy it, and later I'll try the local theatre costumers |
| 18:02.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: sci-fi fans aren't a part of civilized society, and don't deserve consideration, obviously :P |
| 18:02.47 | Lunessa | SciFi fans are not a "Protected Class" |
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| 18:03.54 | cogwheel | lies! class Foo { protected class SciFiFans { }; }; |
| 18:04.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart cogwheel |
| 18:04.01 | purl | installs PocketPC on cogwheel's PDA |
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| 18:04.10 | cogwheel | oops missed a : |
| 18:04.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: no, we're just a marketing gimmick and exploitable demographic |
| 18:06.08 | Lunessa | cogwheel: But we're only called by the MilkAllCash(); function. |
| 18:06.23 | Dagmar | Aha. Found a place that sells them but they'er out of stock |
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| 18:08.39 | cogwheel | throws an exception |
| 18:10.15 | cogwheel | Lunessa: my dk got 2 squashlings in a row from trick-or-treating :> |
| 18:10.37 | Lunessa | cogwheel: gdmnt |
| 18:11.08 | Dagmar | I'm glad I got that title last yesr. Now I can just work on figuring out how to solo the Headless Horseman |
| 18:11.14 | Lunessa | At least I got the title this year. Now I just need the fsking PvP part of Children's week. |
| 18:11.47 | Lunessa | Dagmar: He's easier this year, but he's level 80 - he just does less CC and AoE damage. |
| 18:11.52 | Dagmar | I can use the amount I don't care about that to make a stack that can blot out the sun. |
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| 18:12.13 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Well, depending on how "80" he is I might be able to pull it off |
| 18:12.20 | Dagmar | I look forward to tryin' |
| 18:12.26 | Ackis | was there an achievement added to trick or treat in northrend? |
| 18:12.51 | Lunessa | I think there's one for candy buckets in Northrend |
| 18:13.01 | Dagmar | Mm.... candy |
| 18:17.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: depending on class & gear, he's probably quite soloable |
| 18:17.46 | NightHawkTheSane | A well geared prot pally should be able to do it pretty easily |
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| 18:18.14 | Fisker | i got a ban cogwheel :( |
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| 18:20.21 | Lunessa | lawl " Give a man a Fish Feast, he'll be buffed for an hour. Teach a man to /cast fishing he'll be buffed for the rest of his life. " |
| 18:20.44 | cogwheel | fishing is hell |
| 18:20.47 | Lunessa | Fisker: double-plus ungood? |
| 18:21.17 | Fisker | used the trick or treat script |
| 18:21.18 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:21.26 | Arrowmaster | ok that was odd |
| 18:21.46 | cogwheel | doesn't feel bad for Fisker |
| 18:21.49 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.pawnation.com/media/2009/10/feral-cat-trap-425sz101509.jpg <-- lol pissed off cat is pissed off |
| 18:22.00 | Ackis | Fisker: banned again? |
| 18:22.01 | cogwheel | feels bad for Fisker's mor |
| 18:22.08 | Fisker | apparently i was trying to gain an advantage by gaining pets that i already had through methods not officially disclosed |
| 18:22.19 | Fisker | +intentionally |
| 18:22.29 | Arrowmaster | i just moved a 550mb file from my raid1 to my raid6 and it appeared on the raid6 instantly without even a moving file dialog and bar |
| 18:22.33 | Lunessa | What, /run AcceptQuest(); |
| 18:22.43 | Arrowmaster | i guess the file was cached in ram or something since i just got done watching it |
| 18:25.34 | Dagmar | It should be allocating the disk resources up front |
| 18:26.00 | Dagmar | ...particularly for really large writes. |
| 18:26.27 | Arrowmaster | ext4 on a hardware controller with write caching |
| 18:26.42 | Dagmar | Oh yes it definitely should |
| 18:26.45 | Dagmar | Yay for journaling |
| 18:27.16 | Fisker | ya hear me cogwheel ? |
| 18:27.57 | cogwheel | unfortunately |
| 18:29.10 | Fisker | indeed |
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| 18:35.01 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/mayan_calendar_warns_of |
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| 18:44.27 | Lunessa | NHTS - And I like John Cusack as an actor. |
| 18:44.43 | Shirik | omfg |
| 18:44.50 | Shirik | Windows Movie Maker installer is a POS |
| 18:44.58 | Shirik | "We need to close these programs so that we can do the installation!" |
| 18:45.03 | Shirik | <huge list of programs> |
| 18:45.10 | Shirik | In fact, I think they just listed literally every process |
| 18:45.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: me too... |
| 18:45.13 | Shirik | even "Print Spooler" is on there |
| 18:45.23 | Shirik | that's not even a program it's a Windows service |
| 18:45.27 | cogwheel | gogo windows live |
| 18:45.35 | NightHawkTheSane | we can't have print jobs spooling. |
| 18:45.49 | Lunessa | Spooling a Print Job? UNPOSSIBLE! |
| 18:49.28 | cogwheel | wewt... 2010 beta 2 |
| 18:51.27 | Shirik | VS? |
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| 18:51.33 | cogwheel | *nod* |
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| 19:09.21 | cogwheel | scratches his head |
| 19:09.26 | cogwheel | did they just take it down? |
| 19:09.59 | mikma | booo, BOOO! my Airport Express broke down |
| 19:10.37 | cogwheel | oh nm... had x64 architecture selected |
| 19:12.15 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:12.31 | cogwheel | trouts fisker around with a large slap |
| 19:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 19:14.15 | Fisker | stop it |
| 19:14.16 | Fisker | jerks |
| 19:14.23 | cogwheel | u r B& |
| 19:14.27 | cogwheel | so stfu |
| 19:14.42 | cogwheel | ! |
| 19:20.32 | batrick | Fisker: no |
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| 19:21.19 | Fisker | i'm not B& cogwheel |
| 19:21.21 | Fisker | ~kiss Fisker |
| 19:21.22 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker to give tlund a big kiss on the forehead |
| 19:23.02 | cogwheel | offers tlund some listerine |
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| 19:24.22 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 19:36.32 | Lunessa | Alas, poor Fisker. Going to have to give him positive Karma again soon. |
| 19:42.37 | NightHawkTheSane | nevah! |
| 19:42.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ~Fisker-- |
| 19:44.16 | Fisker | thanks |
| 19:44.19 | Fisker | but still |
| 19:44.23 | Fisker | cogwheel is spreading lies about me :( |
| 19:45.06 | Sesshu | ~karma Fisker |
| 19:45.06 | purl | fisker has karma of 2 |
| 19:45.14 | Sesshu | ~karma Sesshu |
| 19:45.14 | purl | sesshu has neutral karma |
| 19:45.18 | Sesshu | hm |
| 19:45.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ~karma |
| 19:45.25 | purl | nighthawkthesane has karma of 4 |
| 19:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | :o |
| 19:45.47 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcec <-nice message, failure awareness |
| 19:46.11 | Sesshu | prositive = good? |
| 19:46.48 | Lopeppeppy | For some people, yes, for some people, no |
| 19:47.08 | Sesshu | ah |
| 19:47.38 | Sesshu | mysterious |
| 19:47.45 | Fisker | goodbye cruel world |
| 19:47.55 | NightHawkTheSane | in general, its good. Fisker's a crazy little troll. |
| 19:48.14 | Fisker | nahuh |
| 19:48.15 | Fisker | bai |
| 19:48.21 | Sesshu | bb |
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| 19:57.04 | tem | I need a new email client for my parents |
| 19:57.12 | tem | I refuse to let them have outlook |
| 19:57.17 | tem | and they don't like thunderbird |
| 19:57.21 | tem | any suggestions? |
| 19:58.00 | Kraps | what is this i dont even http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKWpWDoQiVg |
| 19:58.01 | Shirik | gmail |
| 19:58.50 | tem | Shirik, I would really like it if I could convince them to use a gmail account and just use the webmail interface |
| 19:58.52 | Aelobin | whats % is the AH cut? |
| 19:59.02 | tem | 5% on faction AH |
| 19:59.10 | Aelobin | ty |
| 19:59.10 | tem | 15% on neutral |
| 19:59.56 | Cide | what's wrong with outlook if they don't like tbird? |
| 20:01.04 | tem | outlook is just as bad as IE for getting you a virus, no? |
| 20:01.26 | tem | the less time I have to spend fixing my parents' computer the better |
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| 20:02.06 | Cide | I don't think so... but I've never used outlook so /shrug |
| 20:02.11 | Lunessa | tem: What are they using for e-mail service? |
| 20:02.22 | tem | AT&T |
| 20:02.37 | Lunessa | so they have an att.net account? |
| 20:02.40 | tem | I'm trying so very hard to get them to dump that fucking company |
| 20:02.46 | tem | they actually have a bellsouth.net account |
| 20:03.00 | tem | because they've had it since like 1997 |
| 20:03.29 | Lunessa | Windows Live Mail is easy to use - but it's essentially Outlook Xpress/OWA on the desktop. |
| 20:03.34 | *** join/#wowuidev dustice (n=dustin@wireless-128-62-130-224.public.utexas.edu) |
| 20:04.16 | Lunessa | And it's free. |
| 20:04.19 | NightHawkTheSane | the last thing this world needs is more people using OWA |
| 20:04.50 | Lunessa | http://email.about.com/od/windowsemailclients/tp/free_email_prog.htm |
| 20:05.47 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, I used Eudora once upon a time. |
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| 20:06.27 | Lunessa | Also, the new Windows malware/AV program does not suck. |
| 20:06.34 | Tepel | mutt |
| 20:06.57 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i remember swearing by eudora back in the day |
| 20:07.17 | Tepel | But yeah, outlook express is total crap |
| 20:07.18 | durcyn | huh, at&t hasn't done their own email for years, it's all yahoo swbell.net shit now |
| 20:07.26 | Tepel | outlook 2k+ is reasonable |
| 20:08.10 | Lunessa | I tried out Windows Live Mail because it installs as part of Windows 7 - and honestly, it didn't suck. |
| 20:08.28 | Tepel | It does? |
| 20:08.45 | Tepel | Talking about the joined install with win7 |
| 20:08.47 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple do suck. |
| 20:08.51 | durcyn | Lunessa: uh, except for using IE as its html rendering engine and loading remote content by default, msimn is, uh, nevermind. |
| 20:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | Do suck do suck do suck. |
| 20:08.53 | Lunessa | Windows 7 Pro 64 bit on my home box. And it came as part of the essentials package. |
| 20:09.11 | Tepel | Ohh |
| 20:09.16 | Tepel | I don't have Life Essentials |
| 20:09.21 | Tepel | Or Live |
| 20:09.25 | Tepel | Whatever they call it |
| 20:09.32 | Tepel | I do have the security one though |
| 20:09.33 | durcyn | Tepel: it's windows update shovelware, you could if you were feeling masochistic |
| 20:09.37 | Tepel | Thought I'd give it a go |
| 20:09.39 | Lunessa | I'm always willing to look at stuff - and I use it for my Hotmail account. |
| 20:10.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm still vaguely shocked that hotmail still exists |
| 20:10.34 | Tepel | Isn't it just the domain that exists |
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| 20:10.42 | Tepel | Not the old hotmail interface right? |
| 20:10.47 | Lunessa | And I don't happen to have an anti-MS bias. I've been using hotmail since '97 and it's been mostly a pleasant experience. |
| 20:11.06 | Tepel | I've moved from Hotmail to ISP mail to my own domain |
| 20:11.13 | Dagmar | I used it in '92. :) |
| 20:11.25 | Tepel | Squirrelmail / KMail! |
| 20:11.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i used hotmail a.. long time ago.. i forget.. |
| 20:11.35 | Dagmar | 'cuz Microsoft didn't create it, they bought it. |
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| 20:12.00 | Lunessa | I got sick of swapping providers and closing domains - so I just started using hotmail.com for personal e-mail in 97 and left it at that. |
| 20:12.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just a little surprised they survived gmail, when gmail first came out, hotmail kinda sucked |
| 20:12.15 | Tepel | Lunessa: which is why I got my own domain |
| 20:12.43 | Tepel | and for €8 / year it's a bargain |
| 20:12.59 | Lunessa | Tepel: I did too, but I went through a really, really bad financial period and couldn't maintain it - so I said f it and used hotmail |
| 20:13.28 | Tepel | I guess that's the perk of free hosting :P |
| 20:13.30 | durcyn | am i the only one who thinks less of people when they give me hotmail.com addresses |
| 20:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 20:13.40 | Tepel | If I had to pay for hosting it would be a different story |
| 20:13.40 | durcyn | okay. |
| 20:13.48 | Lunessa | think less of me if you want then. :P |
| 20:13.50 | Lopeppeppy | But only if given for professional contacts. |
| 20:14.01 | Lopeppeppy | For personal email, there's nothing wrong with it. |
| 20:16.04 | Tepel | Who uses a hotmail account for professional purposes anyway |
| 20:16.24 | Tepel | Who uses any free e-mail account for professional purposes for that matter |
| 20:16.58 | Lopeppeppy | Like I said. |
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| 20:17.54 | Dagmar | Tepel: Lots and lots of people |
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| 20:18.08 | Dagmar | Particularly people who don't trust headhunter firms |
| 20:18.13 | Dagmar | ...which is just about everyone who isn't a fool. |
| 20:18.31 | Tepel | I don't get it .. |
| 20:19.01 | Dagmar | You've not had a headhunter cold-calling you about completely shit jobs for the last five years |
| 20:19.10 | Tepel | <-- student |
| 20:19.21 | Dagmar | ...and you've just lost your mind if you think no spammers get ahold of your monster.com posting, for instance. |
| 20:19.45 | Dagmar | Any address you surrended to monster.com and similar sites WILL be in the hands of spammers within hours, trying to sell you a fake diploma |
| 20:19.50 | Tepel | I tag all my e-mail addresses |
| 20:19.59 | Tepel | with the source in the address |
| 20:20.26 | Dagmar | So how well's that working out for you with the number of jackass sites that consider '+' to be invalid for SMTP addressing? |
| 20:21.46 | Dagmar | There's no reason an IT professional should have to own and operate their own entire MX in order to communicate |
| 20:21.47 | durcyn | i've had some success with vanity domain catch-all mailboxes and site@ addresses, it at least lets me know who to yell at |
| 20:22.08 | Tepel | Then I omit the tag and use only the source as the name part |
| 20:22.15 | Dagmar | durcyn: To say I yell would be an understatement, but I'm still seeing a lot of sites that kick back + tags. |
| 20:22.26 | Dagmar | I prefer to simply not do business with those kinds of people when I can help it |
| 20:22.29 | Tepel | hehe |
| 20:22.37 | Tepel | battle.net fortunatly accepts them :P |
| 20:22.48 | Dagmar | I'd have hollered if they didn't. |
| 20:23.06 | Dagmar | email to my primary personal address _without_ a + tag on it _requires_ a whitelist entry now |
| 20:23.33 | durcyn | though lately i've just been lazy and relying on gmail's spam filtering |
| 20:23.48 | Dagmar | It's good, but I'm going on the offensive now |
| 20:23.59 | Dagmar | I want to know who leaks my damn address and make them sorry |
| 20:24.58 | Dagmar | Seriously tho, test Monster.com sometime. Make a brand new address, pick all the privacy options, and put a phony resume up there |
| 20:25.04 | Dagmar | You will have spam within 72 hours. |
| 20:26.07 | ZorbaTHut | personally I use zorba-sitename@pavlovian.net |
| 20:26.12 | ZorbaTHut | nobody that I've seen rejects -'s |
| 20:26.35 | Dagmar | That makes them separate usernames tho |
| 20:26.50 | Dagmar | The +tagchars thing is actually a defined part of the spec |
| 20:26.54 | ZorbaTHut | sure, but so what? everything that goes to my domain just gets funneled into me |
| 20:27.00 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that's another good reason not to use it |
| 20:27.06 | ZorbaTHut | if it gets common, spammers will start just stripping that off |
| 20:27.09 | Dagmar | So again, there's no reason any IT person should _have_ to run their own domain just to get away from spam |
| 20:27.16 | Dagmar | We should be allowed to hunt and kill people. |
| 20:27.26 | NeoTron | ZorbaTHut: does that mean I can just mail spamyoumuch@pavlovian.net too? |
| 20:27.32 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: This is why I started auto-plonking anything without +tagchars |
| 20:27.41 | ZorbaTHut | neotron, sure, go for it. though anything without "zorba" gets funneled directly into spam. |
| 20:27.56 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Those sorts of setups are great when a dictionary spammer decides to look at your domain. |
| 20:28.01 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 20:28.09 | NeoTron | that happened to me a few years back |
| 20:28.18 | NeoTron | thus my question :P |
| 20:28.19 | Dagmar | It happened to me six times. |
| 20:28.28 | Dagmar | I was only able to properly express my displeasure three of those times. |
| 20:28.51 | Dagmar | Okay, so one of those times I *could* but I wasn't going to shut down a grade school's central server |
| 20:29.36 | alestane | Does Ruin affect Pandemic? |
| 20:33.39 | cogwheel | wtf... nslookup <somehost> gives the correct ip address. http://<ipaddress> works correctly ... http://<somehost> = "Oops! this link appears to be broken" |
| 20:34.04 | Dagmar | IE is cool like that |
| 20:34.11 | cogwheel | Dagmar: chrome |
| 20:34.16 | cogwheel | and ie both doing it |
| 20:34.35 | Dagmar | Oh so it's not the browser's messgae you're seeing then? |
| 20:34.42 | Dagmar | Lame admin set up the vhost wrong. |
| 20:34.47 | kdtresh | server may not be set up properly with the header |
| 20:35.00 | cogwheel | but it worked earlier today... and i'm the admin |
| 20:35.03 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:35.12 | Dagmar | Check yer config |
| 20:35.16 | kdtresh | which web server? |
| 20:35.19 | cogwheel | no duh? |
| 20:35.24 | cogwheel | is ranting |
| 20:35.29 | alestane | nslookup bypasses the hosts file. |
| 20:35.39 | cogwheel | why would my hosts file have changed? |
| 20:35.47 | alestane | Malware? |
| 20:35.52 | cogwheel | no. |
| 20:35.56 | alestane | A lot of them do weird host spoofing. |
| 20:36.08 | Dagmar | It doesn't bypass the hosts file. |
| 20:36.12 | Dagmar | It simply has nothing to do with it. |
| 20:36.53 | cogwheel | my entire hosts file is a single line defining localhost |
| 20:37.16 | alestane | Okay then. |
| 20:37.22 | alestane | You've ruled that out. |
| 20:37.27 | Dagmar | cogwheel: So you're getting a 404, right? |
| 20:37.33 | cogwheel | no. DNS error |
| 20:37.43 | Dagmar | Cached broken lookup then |
| 20:37.46 | cogwheel | flushing my cache didn't work |
| 20:37.56 | kdtresh | does pinging the name return correct ip? |
| 20:37.57 | cogwheel | and it shouldn't matter. it's a static, local ip address |
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| 20:38.22 | cogwheel | ping request could not find host |
| 20:38.26 | Dagmar | Restart the browser |
| 20:38.34 | Dagmar | ping couldn't find it? |
| 20:38.42 | Dagmar | Something is broken with your DNS then man |
| 20:38.48 | cogwheel | apparently |
| 20:39.27 | cogwheel | so why does nslookup work? |
| 20:39.30 | Dagmar | If the server you're using as a nameserver gets a negative result just once, it'll cache that |
| 20:39.43 | cogwheel | Dagmar: it can't get a negative result |
| 20:39.50 | Dagmar | ...and it'll continue to say that that hostname doesn't exist until the negative response expires |
| 20:39.51 | cogwheel | it's an internal domain |
| 20:40.02 | Dagmar | That doesn't really impact it |
| 20:40.08 | cogwheel | it's my own domain server |
| 20:40.14 | NeoTron | http://dougbarton.us/DNS/bind-users-FAQ.html#nslookup-evil |
| 20:40.17 | cogwheel | dns* |
| 20:40.34 | NeoTron | try using dig or host instead of nslookup |
| 20:40.45 | cogwheel | windows... |
| 20:40.46 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Problem being that section is wrong |
| 20:40.52 | Dagmar | nslookup doesn't use the resolver. |
| 20:41.02 | kdtresh | ping resolves |
| 20:41.13 | kdtresh | or at least tries to |
| 20:41.29 | NeoTron | it's still the wrong tool to test dns issues |
| 20:41.52 | Dagmar | I'd say it's more accurate to say that it's the wrong tool for testing hostname resolution issues. |
| 20:42.15 | Dagmar | 'spesh if you have macs on your network. |
| 20:42.15 | kdtresh | i'd say it's fine for hostname resolution, but not so much for virtual host mapping |
| 20:42.47 | Dagmar | The fancy rendezvous/localdns stuff they use completly escapes it's notice |
| 20:43.00 | Dagmar | Oooh |
| 20:43.08 | Dagmar | There's a possibility |
| 20:43.47 | Dagmar | cogwheel: If your vanity domain ends in .local, there's a mac user nearby you need to beat with a stick |
| 20:44.00 | cogwheel | Dagmar: that might do it |
| 20:44.08 | cogwheel | but he just left on a business trip... |
| 20:44.36 | Dagmar | Then he probably will never know his cubicle experienced a breaker panel failure |
| 20:44.48 | kdtresh | weather is unpredictable. |
| 20:46.41 | cogwheel | now wtf is his mac doing to the network that would cause this problem... |
| 20:47.03 | cogwheel | yeah, now that he's gone it seems to have started working again... |
| 20:47.31 | ZorbaTHut | do macs try to authoritatively report on the .local tld? |
| 20:47.55 | cogwheel | even if they do, why would any of our computers ask it for the info? |
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| 20:50.02 | kdtresh | we've never had a problem with macs stepping on dns stuff |
| 20:50.09 | kdtresh | though we don't use a .local domain |
| 20:50.19 | cogwheel | "Name resolution issues may arise if Bonjour, Avahi, or other Multicast DNS software is used in conjunction with a network that implements the local toplevel DNS domain." |
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| 20:51.37 | durcyn | MDNS steps on .local, ye. things like NetworkManager are at least polite enough to disable themselves if they see it i use though |
| 20:51.42 | durcyn | in* |
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| 21:00.59 | Aelobin | any idea what the easiest way is to get the city factions up to exalted these days? |
| 21:01.05 | Aelobin | not counting the champion's writs :P |
| 21:03.55 | Dagmar | Newbie zone quests |
| 21:04.04 | Dagmar | THey always hand out a pile of rep to get newbies started |
| 21:04.31 | Aelobin | ^^ k |
| 21:04.38 | Aelobin | and me being a newbie, its perfect :O |
| 21:04.48 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Yeah that's because they treat .local as belonging to a local broadcast resolution mechanism |
| 21:05.43 | Dagmar | Aelobin: Well, it used to not be so useful if you were 80 because they would only give you a teeny-weeny fraction of 2000 rep for a level 4 quest |
| 21:05.56 | Dagmar | Now, on the other hand, you get full rep credit even when XP nerfs are in place |
| 21:06.30 | Dagmar | I saved myself several days of pointless tourney flogging by spending two hours running Exodar newbie quests |
| 21:06.53 | Aelobin | nice =) |
| 21:06.57 | cogwheel | Dagmar: but why would my windows computer care about what mac is doing over in the corner? |
| 21:07.10 | Aelobin | im about halfway to revered on all my city facs due to being a DK, and should be champ of the alliance tomorrow |
| 21:07.19 | Aelobin | so need to get them up for crusader quartermaster <_> |
| 21:07.23 | Dagmar | That depends on whether or not you wound up with the stuff loaded to facilitate better integration with Macs |
| 21:08.01 | cogwheel | nothing like that... he's not using the mac on our domain, he just likes it for his internet browsing and personal programs |
| 21:08.16 | Dagmar | I know it exists for Unix/Linux, and I'm pretty sure it exists for Windows, although I've never bothered to look |
| 21:08.54 | Dagmar | ...but if support for it is in your system resolver, .local hostnames will result in a non-DNS query going out, probably before checking DNS |
| 21:09.30 | cogwheel | oh you mean some ms update for the xp machines? |
| 21:09.59 | Dagmar | Very possibly |
| 21:10.58 | cogwheel | 'cause i certainly didn't install anything for mac support |
| 21:11.00 | Dagmar | I only tested the Linux stuff because it figured into the GNOME stuff semi-prominently so I needed to make sure it worked before I shipped those packages |
| 21:12.22 | Dagmar | It makes me glad I use .foo for internal domains. :) |
| 21:14.39 | foxlit | bar.foo << wrong order. |
| 21:14.45 | cogwheel | ~lart google for ignoring punctuation in search queries |
| 21:14.45 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack google for ignoring punctuation in search queries |
| 21:15.46 | Dagmar | foxlit: kung.foo <-- correct order. ;) |
| 21:16.18 | Thunder_Child | foo.you <-- even more correct order |
| 21:19.00 | Thunder_Child | what kind of gear is needed for TotC 5 normal? |
| 21:19.16 | Dagmar | Whatever you got to 80 with |
| 21:19.46 | Dagmar | I started tanking it (successfully) on my DK after having gotten two pieces from there, and everything else was level 75 auction house purchases |
| 21:19.59 | Dagmar | ToC normal is pretty much a normal level 80 instance. |
| 21:20.32 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
| 21:21.00 | Dagmar | It's pretty much the place to go to play catch-up on gear now |
| 21:21.21 | Dagmar | Flog it's pinatas ruthlessly for an hour or two, and you can probably go straight to doing it in Heroic without ever looking back |
| 21:21.36 | Dagmar | Next stop, Naxx. |
| 21:22.16 | Dagmar | The halloween weekend should be fun |
| 21:22.34 | Dagmar | Several people from my office are planning a demonstration raid on the PTR at this 'con that's happening. |
| 21:22.40 | Dagmar | My boss is going to be involved. |
| 21:22.43 | Dagmar | He is apparently a failtank. |
| 21:23.05 | Dagmar | Am I going to step in with a premade? Hell no. |
| 21:23.11 | Dagmar | heh |
| 21:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | overheardintheoffice: "Some horses eat meat!" |
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| 21:37.41 | alestane | The mare of Diomedes? |
| 21:37.46 | alestane | mares* |
| 21:38.23 | Lunessa | Actually most horses aren't above a little meat now and then. |
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| 22:01.16 | Amarande | so apparently HH is a total wimp this year. :) |
| 22:01.29 | NeoTron | was he ever NOT a wimp? |
| 22:01.31 | Amarande | or, let's put it this way. I *tanked* it once, *as a destro lock*. |
| 22:01.38 | Amarande | that's how much of a wimp he is. :) |
| 22:02.31 | Amarande | at least he's worth fighting this time |
| 22:02.39 | NeoTron | why? |
| 22:02.46 | Amarande | the hit rating caster ring will be useful in helping me be rid of an ilvl 187 hat |
| 22:03.04 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 22:03.06 | NeoTron | fair enough, but really ratrher surprised he has only ilevel 200 epics |
| 22:03.26 | Dagmar | NeoTron: I think you have to be doing somethign heroic to get over i200 |
| 22:03.38 | Dagmar | ...with a few minor exceptions |
| 22:03.48 | NeoTron | for sure |
| 22:03.51 | NeoTron | but that's trivial |
| 22:03.59 | NeoTron | see comment about normal toc above |
| 22:04.10 | Dagmar | Yeah that's pretty much the exception I had in mind |
| 22:05.24 | ZorbaTHut | HH is really an amazing wimp now |
| 22:05.33 | ZorbaTHut | I mean he was wimpy ten levels ago, he's a hilarious pushover at this point |
| 22:05.57 | ZorbaTHut | it would not entirely surprise me if I could solo him as prot warrior |
| 22:06.06 | Amarande | some classes can solo him apparently |
| 22:06.29 | Amarande | not that this is a good idea |
| 22:06.33 | Dagmar | I'm going to try with a pet-tanking spec later tonight and see if it's feasible |
| 22:07.08 | Amarande | probably |
| 22:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, a bm hunter could probably do it |
| 22:07.15 | Amarande | if a destro lock can tank HH, a pet certainly can heh |
| 22:08.57 | Dagmar | It looks like at least one of his rings is a competitive lateral change for me |
| 22:09.12 | Dagmar | I don't see anything particularly appealing for my DK tho |
| 22:10.04 | Dagmar | I guess the ring of ghoulish glee could help |
| 22:11.01 | Dagmar | Guess it can't hurt to go ahead and purple out the headgear |
| 22:12.40 | Amarande | Now I only have to find 23 more hit rating to replace the hat. |
| 22:12.46 | Amarande | Then I need 58 more conqs ... *SIGH* |
| 22:13.01 | Amarande | last time I did that I got so burned out on heroics that I didn't even ever want to see a conq again for a while LOL |
| 22:13.59 | Lunessa | I happen to like doing heroics. |
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| 22:15.15 | Amarande | Lunessa: Usually I do. |
| 22:15.31 | Amarande | But when you've done about forty zillion in a row because you wanted that T8 item NAO ... it can be a bit of burnout :) |
| 22:23.22 | Lunessa | Amarande: I'm currently gearing up a second shaman via heroics. I understand your pain, but do not share it. :) |
| 22:28.08 | Amarande | although, T8 items from badges will become a thing of the past soon heh |
| 22:28.13 | Amarande | we stop getting conqs as drops in 3.3, right? |
| 22:30.38 | Dagmar | yes. We get badges of Pink Ice then |
| 22:30.48 | Lunessa | ANd pwnies |
| 22:30.52 | Dagmar | ...and emblems of bling. |
| 22:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i want pwnies with blink. |
| 22:36.12 | NightHawkTheSane | bling. |
| 22:36.15 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 22:40.54 | Tepel | You could just downgrade your tokens .. |
| 22:41.04 | Tepel | Assuming they add the same function for the new badges |
| 22:41.49 | Lunessa | I assume they will. |
| 22:49.35 | Lunessa | I'm sick to death of the phrase "dumbing down content" |
| 22:49.45 | Amarande | Lunessa: Same here. |
| 22:49.57 | Amarande | It's like making more of the game accessible to more people is somehow BAD. |
| 22:50.00 | Lunessa | False premise is false. |
| 22:50.32 | Amarande | I guess I can understand the sort of feeling that leads to it, on the other hand ... it's like buying a video game new at full price and then next week going into the games store and seeing it at $10 in the bargain bin |
| 22:50.40 | Amarande | but still ... accessibility is good. |
| 22:50.46 | Lunessa | Such is the way of games. |
| 22:51.06 | Lunessa | Face it, do you really want a game to play where you need 40 friends to fight Arthas? |
| 22:52.56 | Tuller | i'm about 50/50 |
| 22:53.18 | Tuller | I kindof like the old days of, "only x people were able to defeat y! in mmos" |
| 22:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: sure, but when you weren't one of x people because of stupid shit, it was kind of obnoxious |
| 22:54.52 | Tuller | well, I think that type of elitism can and should be handled by hard mode/achievements now |
| 22:54.55 | Dagmar | If there wasn't a lockout, I'd be up for it |
| 22:55.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: yeah, it more or less is i think |
| 22:55.18 | Dagmar | As it stands now, we're basically taking the chance that of these 39 other people, enough of them won't be morons that it'll be completable |
| 22:55.24 | Dagmar | Otherwise, we're boned for the rest of the week. |
| 22:55.34 | Amarande | Night: you mean like the AQ chain where one anointed person pretty much had to be chosen? |
| 22:55.47 | Amarande | actually, that's still a bit of a pain |
| 22:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | no, not really |
| 22:56.02 | Amarande | I need to get a group together for BWL that isn't going to include anyone else with the quest for Lashlayer's head heh |
| 22:57.05 | Lunessa | Or any of the other "oops, only a few will ever get to see this" - I think content that mathematically only a tiny fragment of your player base will ever see/experience is a waste of design team effort. |
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| 22:57.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, basically |
| 22:57.39 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 22:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i really like that normal mode content is fairly "easy" |
| 22:58.02 | Dagmar | Well, easy for you because you have the proper tools. |
| 22:58.15 | Dagmar | i.e., a working brain, and a computer with a video card made after 2002 |
| 22:58.21 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats why i put it in quotes. |
| 22:58.33 | NightHawkTheSane | easy is always relative ;) |
| 22:59.05 | NightHawkTheSane | and i'm sorry, while I have no problems with 90+% of the population being able to see the normal mode content, i'm going to have to insist that you bring a brain and a computer made in the last 8ish yeras ;) |
| 22:59.40 | Dagmar | I've had people in pugs tell me they couldn't turn on the built-in voicechat because they didn't have speakers |
| 22:59.58 | Dagmar | Yes, I'll kick for that. |
| 23:00.00 | tekkub | some people don't |
| 23:00.10 | NightHawkTheSane | see, i just tell people i can't turn on the built in voice because i have ears, and would like to keep them. |
| 23:00.12 | Lunessa | For example - I didn't get to see BWL until TBC launched and I never got to do the original Naxx - because the social challenge of finding 40 non-assholes who could play was torture. |
| 23:00.17 | tekkub | when I played at work, sound wasn't an option |
| 23:00.38 | tekkub | and if I have really dickheaded raid leaders, I tell them I'm deaf |
| 23:00.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: same, basically. |
| 23:00.50 | tekkub | they never argue that |
| 23:01.17 | Lunessa | And I'm almost assuredly on the "not a guy who plays well" list for a number of folks. |
| 23:01.23 | Dagmar | tekkub: I am generally looking to help out people who've never done that particular instance before |
| 23:01.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: more fun was (is, still) trying to find people who raid at times i'm actually available.. |
| 23:01.50 | Amarande | I'm probably in the "guy who plays really skilfully but tends to try to go to raids that are over my head gear-wise" category |
| 23:01.53 | Dagmar | If they can't hear instructions, and they don't have the gear, and they don't have the skill, they're goijng to fail |
| 23:02.17 | Lunessa | NHTS - Yeah. I can get all kinds of people to show up for Thursday and Friday raids... No one for Saturday or Sunday and heaven help me if I don't want to pug a raid on Tursday. |
| 23:02.21 | Lunessa | Tuesday |
| 23:02.23 | Amarande | I did get wonked by fire in Ony10 |
| 23:02.35 | Dagmar | if they don't have the gear, and they don't have the skill, if they cna follow instructions I'll lead them to the rest |
| 23:02.43 | Amarande | but that was because Ony ended up moving way far from where I was and I was trying to get back in range and the stupid flame jet goes off right as I'm crossing it |
| 23:02.44 | tekkub | hearing instructions isn't vitally important |
| 23:02.50 | tekkub | stop being lazy and type them out |
| 23:02.59 | tekkub | then they have something to refer back to |
| 23:03.02 | Dagmar | I can type >100 wpm |
| 23:03.08 | tekkub | that's why I hate voice chat so much, there's no log |
| 23:03.10 | Dagmar | People lose it in the scroll |
| 23:03.23 | kdtresh | that's why there's a scroll up button |
| 23:03.26 | tekkub | the more you type, the better you'll get |
| 23:03.46 | Dagmar | Yep, well, been at it for umm... 18 years now. |
| 23:03.54 | tekkub | Yes, I took typing in highschool, but I *learned* on IRC |
| 23:03.56 | Dagmar | Actually, crap. 28 years |
| 23:04.10 | tekkub | that's the problem these days |
| 23:04.17 | kdtresh | gemstone3 taught me to type |
| 23:04.19 | tekkub | kids "learn" on a fucking cell phone |
| 23:04.26 | tekkub | and then they hit the internet and use voice shit |
| 23:04.31 | tekkub | and never learn to type proper |
| 23:04.39 | Dagmar | ...or read. |
| 23:04.43 | kdtresh | aim is the closest they come |
| 23:04.48 | tekkub | yea, there's that too |
| 23:04.50 | kdtresh | and everything is full of "r u" and crap like that |
| 23:04.53 | Dagmar | Hence why they have to listen |
| 23:04.58 | tekkub | who needs to read when I can just make videos |
| 23:05.00 | Lunessa | tekkub would hate raiding with me. I'm a terrible typist. I can't type and do combat at the same time. I <3 voice chat. |
| 23:05.07 | kdtresh | "wut" and "i no" |
| 23:05.07 | tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.26 | tekkub | Lunessa: 90% of the time you DON'T need to type in combat |
| 23:05.34 | Dagmar | It's the other 10% that wipes you |
| 23:05.38 | tekkub | at best, "On me" when you're webbed or such |
| 23:05.50 | Lunessa | tekkub: I used to have to spam a macro for VoA "Please get out of the clouds" |
| 23:06.01 | Amarande | and as for why I don't tank or heal much |
| 23:06.07 | Lunessa | And for Naxx "Don't stand in Grobby's Poison" |
| 23:06.07 | Amarande | I could probably do so if I had to and my characters were leveled |
| 23:06.15 | tekkub | spamming shit isn't going to do any better than voice chat would |
| 23:06.15 | Amarande | but ... there's something to be said for being DPS, in relaxation terms |
| 23:06.22 | tekkub | can't fix stupid |
| 23:06.26 | Amarande | I mean ... you just do your rotation, keep on target as told, and stay out of fire |
| 23:06.29 | Lunessa | tekkub: /agree |
| 23:06.37 | tekkub | that's my real issue |
| 23:06.39 | Amarande | (and in cases like Heigan, there's just REALLY BIG ZONES OF FIRE to stay out of.) |
| 23:06.42 | Dagmar | Amarande: ...and still this is difficult for some people. |
| 23:06.45 | Lunessa | But I don't have you on my raid team, so I do what I can with what I have. :P |
| 23:06.46 | tekkub | the people that demand voice chat don't get that |
| 23:06.47 | Dagmar | "If I move I'll lose DPS!" |
| 23:06.55 | Dagmar | "If you're dead you'll lose even more" |
| 23:06.57 | Amarande | Dagmar: because people worry too much about the meter maids |
| 23:06.58 | tekkub | they think screaming more dots will solve the problem |
| 23:07.09 | Dagmar | Amarande: I kick metermaids |
| 23:07.18 | Amarande | Dagmar: GOOD. |
| 23:07.23 | Amarande | Finally one who agrees with me on that :) |
| 23:07.33 | kdtresh | well, when so many people base their livelihood off the numbers and require x to get an invite, what do they expect? |
| 23:07.39 | Lunessa | I don't /demand/ voice chat. I pug lots of junk without it. I prefer it for raiding, and happily so does the group I raid with. |
| 23:07.40 | tekkub | I had some priest crying to me all the time about her healing numbers |
| 23:07.45 | tekkub | and how bad she sucked |
| 23:07.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont like them, but on the other hand, i dont like slackers pulling 2k dps in raids |
| 23:07.55 | Dagmar | I don't really like ordering people around, although I *am* good at it, so I'm already halfway in a bad mood by the time I've decided it's time I formed and led a PUG to fight off boredom |
| 23:08.04 | tekkub | she wouldn't listen to me when I told her "did your tank die? no? then who the fuck cares" |
| 23:08.12 | Dagmar | tekkub++ |
| 23:08.28 | Lunessa | ~tekkub++ |
| 23:08.57 | Dagmar | ~tekkub++ |
| 23:09.09 | Dagmar | ...although I was saying it rather than intending it for bots |
| 23:09.43 | *** join/#wowuidev jpmorgan (n=jpmorgan@67.183.221.120) |
| 23:09.53 | Dagmar | $coworker is changing guilds again because his new one is an 18-eyar old metermaid who likes to harangue healers |
| 23:10.27 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 who yells at healers these days |
| 23:10.36 | kdtresh | people who don't like being healed? |
| 23:10.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ :P |
| 23:10.46 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 23:10.57 | tekkub | people that tell me to heal them usually don't get heals |
| 23:11.28 | tekkub | what happened to the good old days where a DPS saw he was almost dead and popped a pot/stone/bandaid? |
| 23:11.35 | Dagmar | I stand specifically between the boss and the healer if I think I'm being neglected |
| 23:12.02 | Dagmar | tekkub: I dunno what you're seeing, but I still use 'em |
| 23:12.16 | NightHawkTheSane | if you think you're being neglected, its almost certainly because a) you're not in range of a healer, b) you're not being hit with whatever aoe heal the healers are spamming. |
| 23:12.26 | tekkub | well, true I don't notice if the person potted or someone healed him |
| 23:12.30 | Dagmar | granted there's a lot of fights now with mechanisms that appear to be set up to screw with one's ability to bandage in combat |
| 23:12.38 | tekkub | but I still get people that like to tell me they're almost dead and need healed |
| 23:12.41 | Dagmar | All that nice continuous pecking to death by arcane or shadow ducks |
| 23:12.49 | tekkub | and if I catch it in time, I direct my heals elsewhere |
| 23:13.05 | kdtresh | if you're almost dead, there's a good chance the healer(s) are aware |
| 23:13.14 | kdtresh | big red health bars have a way of indicating that |
| 23:13.28 | Dagmar | Oh like big red bars in Omen would catch a rogue's eye? |
| 23:13.34 | kdtresh | you'd think |
| 23:13.38 | tekkub | the healers ARE aware |
| 23:13.38 | NightHawkTheSane | they should, if he was a good rogue :P |
| 23:13.56 | tekkub | if they're not healing you, well that's because they're doing their job and deciding who to heal |
| 23:14.12 | kdtresh | yes |
| 23:14.22 | kdtresh | priorities |
| 23:14.56 | Dagmar | Sometimes they're busy lighting the bowl |
| 23:15.06 | kdtresh | again, priorities |
| 23:15.10 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 23:15.29 | kdtresh | always the rotation |
| 23:16.31 | Dagmar | Guild leader is going to be in town next week |
| 23:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | get him drunk and make him promote you. |
| 23:16.42 | Dagmar | It should be amusing to see his reaction to the half-empty bottle of sake that was my primary handicap in kiting Loatheb trash last week |
| 23:17.05 | Dagmar | I could see the words "your kiting skill" floating in the empty upper half |
| 23:17.26 | Dagmar | I was doing a glass of sake per pull |
| 23:17.28 | NightHawkTheSane | kiting loatheb trash? o_0 |
| 23:17.33 | Dagmar | Yes, all those zombies |
| 23:17.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont remember zombies before loatheb. |
| 23:17.59 | Dagmar | It's quite a bit simpler if you've got someone like say, a hunter, running around the back forty keeping them from getting up front |
| 23:18.34 | Dagmar | Might have the wrong guy. Lemme look (OBVIOUSLY I was pretty drunk) |
| 23:19.27 | NightHawkTheSane | obviously. :P |
| 23:19.28 | Lunessa | That's not Lotheb |
| 23:19.38 | Dagmar | Oh no wait Gluth. :) |
| 23:19.43 | Lunessa | There you go. |
| 23:19.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, yes, now gluth makes sense. :) |
| 23:20.04 | Dagmar | I'd _completely_ forgotten about that fight, and then all of a sudden I gotta kite zombie chows |
| 23:20.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, ive always done it with a pally |
| 23:20.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hunters work a pinch, but MAN they whine about it |
| 23:21.18 | Dagmar | It's _hair-raising_ as a hunter |
| 23:21.41 | Dagmar | Plus, keep in mind that many of them are pansies who should be playing mages because they've been told Hunters are a "pure DPS" class |
| 23:21.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 23:22.02 | Dagmar | Thankflly, Deterrence and Disengage make it a lot less tarrifying than it used to be |
| 23:22.52 | Dagmar | ...cuz no matter how you try, at more than one point, you're going to have to run _right through the middle of them all_ |
| 23:23.04 | jpmorgan | engineering boots ftw |
| 23:23.08 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what holy wrath is for. ;) |
| 23:23.11 | Cairenn | gotta hate it when there are tariffs on your mobs |
| 23:23.34 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.47 | Dagmar | pfft. heh |
| 23:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | hah |
| 23:24.37 | Dagmar | Deterrence still throws our main healer for a loop |
| 23:24.55 | Dagmar | Something nasty will happen, and I'll have taken exactly zero damage from it |
| 23:27.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@124-170-157-210.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:29.14 | Amarande | Evening Cairenn :) |
| 23:29.20 | Cairenn | hi Amarande |
| 23:30.58 | Amarande | Anything fun going on? |
| 23:31.16 | Cairenn | naw, things are quiet |
| 23:31.19 | kdtresh | i think Dagmar's sparking a bowl |
| 23:31.26 | Cairenn | quiet is frequently nice |
| 23:31.45 | Cairenn | by far better than dramaz |
| 23:33.04 | Amarande | drama FTL |
| 23:33.06 | Dagmar | No, I'm at work. |
| 23:33.21 | kdtresh | doh |
| 23:33.25 | Lunessa | slides Cairenn a martini and a bar of choclate. |
| 23:33.33 | Cairenn | Lunessa: :) |
| 23:34.30 | Lunessa | I love asking the network admin to reboot all the wireless access points in a building. |
| 23:34.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:34.55 | Amarande | I actually saw a Black Qiraji Battle Tank in Orgrimmar today. |
| 23:34.57 | Dagmar | They've not yet figured out how to do it remotely? |
| 23:34.57 | NightHawkTheSane | why..? |
| 23:34.59 | kdtresh | and the network admin probably loves telling you he did it when he didn't |
| 23:35.13 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Of course he's doing it remotely. |
| 23:35.14 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 23:35.39 | Lunessa | I asked him to because several access points weren't accepting connections. |
| 23:36.51 | Dagmar | Hmm.. I figured the entertainment was in making them run all over the building lifting ceiling panels |
| 23:37.07 | Lunessa | It's the first week of an 8-week session and for some reason 200+ people were clustered on one access point and no one could access the others. |
| 23:37.18 | Cairenn | ewww |
| 23:37.22 | Lunessa | So lots of people were coming in and asking me to "fix their internet" |
| 23:37.35 | Dagmar | OUch |
| 23:37.40 | Lunessa | Rebooting complete and problem went away. |
| 23:38.19 | Lunessa | But for just a moment, I got to do my C3P0 impression... "Shut them ALL down!" |
| 23:38.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:39.02 | Cairenn | oh, the heady joys of power |
| 23:39.11 | NightHawkTheSane | that is very nearly the longest run up to the worst joke ever |
| 23:39.21 | Lunessa | Thank you. I'm here all week. |
| 23:39.30 | Lunessa | Tip your waitstaff. |
| 23:40.13 | Lunessa | NHTS - You haven't heard the one that starts with a beautiful naked woman running down the train tracks? |
| 23:41.12 | NightHawkTheSane | not off the top of my head. although i did say 'very nearly' :P |
| 23:41.18 | NightHawkTheSane | and, with that, im heading home. |
| 23:41.33 | Lunessa | I was going to say "Me either, but I bet it's terrible" but you killed it. |
| 23:42.01 | NightHawkTheSane | you're welcome. :) |
| 23:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | goes |
| 23:55.19 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:55.20 | Wobin | Working with Hollywood special-effects wizards, some hybrid auto companies have started tinkering in sound studios, rather than machine shops, to customize engine noises. The Fisker Karma, an $87,900 plug-in hybrid expected to go on sale next year, will emit a sound - pumped out of speakers in the bumpers - that the company founder, Henrik Fisker, describes as "a cross between a starship and a Formula One car." |
| 23:55.25 | Wobin | THE FISKER KARMA |
| 23:55.45 | *** join/#wowuidev yleaf (n=yaroot@116.234.199.26) |
| 23:56.27 | Dagmar | Sad, isn't it? |
| 23:56.40 | Dagmar | Nissan announced the same thing for their hybrids about four months ago. |
| 23:56.52 | kdtresh | i heard someone was doing it because people were complaining they couldn't hear the cars coming |
| 23:56.55 | Dagmar | Sound themes for the vehicle so they're not quite so eerily quiet |
| 23:57.06 | Wobin | kdtresh, yeah, child safety concerns |
| 23:57.16 | jpmorgan | hehe ice cream truck soundtrack |
| 23:57.20 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:57.38 | Wobin | but really, there are enough deaths near schools to warrent that sort of concern |
| 23:57.53 | Wobin | (*warrant) |
| 23:58.31 | jpmorgan | just think u will be able to buy ringtones for your car someday |
| 23:59.24 | Wobin | They should totally use a Chittychittybangbang soundtrack |
| 23:59.24 | ZorbaTHut | awesome. Crazy Frog cartones. Just what we need. |
| 23:59.35 | Lunessa | The other complaint was people were excessively accelerating because the engine noise was... minimal and they didn't understand how hard they were pushing the vehicle. |
| 23:59.36 | Dagmar | The real question is whether or not the MPAA will make you pay per mile or per note |
| 23:59.48 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, per lawsuit |
| 23:59.50 | Wobin | Lunessa, That would come through experience though |
| 23:59.52 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:59.55 | ZorbaTHut | if you don't pay them, they sue you |
