| 00:00.12 | Jerub | Fisker: yes, but i don't have your email address. |
| 00:00.12 | Fisker | Yeah but isn't that only because of server load? |
| 00:00.19 | Jerub | it's because it's how google does things. |
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| 00:00.38 | Amarande | what's google wave? |
| 00:00.48 | Jerub | multiplayer irc with retcon |
| 00:00.51 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 00:00.55 | Adys | Jerub: Can I pay you not to give an invite to Fisker? |
| 00:01.00 | Fisker | too late |
| 00:01.00 | Amarande | with retcon |
| 00:01.06 | Amarande | heh, you mean people will probably use it like this: |
| 00:01.13 | Fisker | Jerub is my bestest friend now |
| 00:01.19 | Amarande | <Douchebag Teenager> What's 3x4? |
| 00:01.21 | Adys | AMARANDE DONT SAY ANYTHING IT WILL SOUND RETARDED |
| 00:01.24 | Amarande | <Gullible Victim> 12 |
| 00:01.28 | Jerub | now transfer to my server and give me runed and crusader orbs. |
| 00:01.35 | amro | oh and |
| 00:01.35 | Amarande | *teenager proceeds to edit previous statement to* "What age girls do you like?" |
| 00:01.35 | Fisker | Well there's playback |
| 00:01.39 | amro | ~Jerub++ |
| 00:01.57 | Fisker | But i'm wondering in "e-mails" how it'll work out |
| 00:02.14 | Fisker | Because i might not want a e-mail/im type wave where people edit stuff constantly |
| 00:02.15 | Amarande | Adys: the first rule of any Internet technology is that it will always be used first for two things |
| 00:02.24 | Adys | SHUT UP |
| 00:02.24 | Amarande | a) porn, and b) being a douchebag |
| 00:02.24 | kd3 | porn and more porn |
| 00:02.29 | Fisker | ~Jerub++ |
| 00:02.30 | amro | Amarande: wave has playback |
| 00:02.47 | Amarande | except wow. far as I know, there isn't wow porn |
| 00:02.54 | Arrowmaster | yes there is |
| 00:02.56 | amro | how little you know |
| 00:02.57 | kd3 | you haven't been looking hard enough |
| 00:02.57 | Adys | .. a lot of it |
| 00:02.58 | Amarande | although there's plenty of douchebags. thankfully most of them play alliance though |
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| 00:03.12 | Arrowmaster | they were forced to change the name of it too by blizzard |
| 00:03.15 | Fisker | goes through his wowporn bookmarks |
| 00:03.35 | kd3 | doobie-doobie-doo... |
| 00:03.40 | kd3 | copies over to brox |
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| 00:03.51 | Adys | yeah this just went straight in the wowuidev quotes |
| 00:03.53 | Tepel | I've seen my fair share of ERPers |
| 00:03.57 | Amarande | Fisker, think of it this way, when you spawn out of nowhere on a timer, what's the point of having sex and making babies? :D |
| 00:04.04 | bleeter | kd3: you got the PTR patches somewhere, yet? ;) :P |
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| 00:04.19 | kd3 | neg; soon |
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| 00:04.51 | amro | Amarande: usually the point isn't to make babies |
| 00:04.58 | Fisker | i'm wondering how long it'll be on PTR for |
| 00:05.03 | bleeter | wish wirebrain's rss was kept up to date... :( |
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| 00:05.11 | Fisker | Not a lot has changed, and it's missing 3 dungeons |
| 00:05.24 | Jerub | now we need world of warcraft google wave bots. |
| 00:09.32 | amro | ~wowiquotes |
| 00:09.33 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 00:24.55 | Kraps | whoa new patch notes |
| 00:27.35 | tem | with shockingly little in the way of changes |
| 00:27.53 | bleeter | reads to me like a bunch of stuff to keep people quiet |
| 00:28.02 | tem | same here |
| 00:28.51 | mikma | hehe |
| 00:29.03 | mikma | "ICECITA! BEHOLD! now, stfu." |
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| 00:30.29 | Kraps | Dual Wield: Rogues now know this ability upon logging into the game at level 1. THOSE OP ROGUES!!!!!!1111 |
| 00:30.46 | Tepel | No, OP would be when we get shields |
| 00:31.24 | Tepel | But I want my 50s back |
| 00:31.39 | Kraps | 50s? |
| 00:31.44 | Jerub | 50 silver |
| 00:31.45 | Tepel | Cost of dual wield |
| 00:31.46 | Jerub | 0.5g |
| 00:31.50 | tem | 50s is the cost to train DW |
| 00:31.56 | tem | at level 10 or whatever |
| 00:32.13 | Jerub | what new patch notes? |
| 00:32.20 | Tepel | In fact, I want them to retroactively apply that patch |
| 00:32.32 | Tepel | As in, I want the time I lost by not having DW at lvl 1 back |
| 00:33.20 | Tepel | I someday hope they remove the rogue class, so I can ask for a refund of my life |
| 00:33.43 | Adys | dk unholy - flavour of the month |
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| 00:33.48 | Adys | arcane mage - flavour of the year |
| 00:34.01 | Adys | paladins - flavour of the expansion |
| 00:34.02 | Adys | rogues - flavour of the game |
| 00:34.03 | kd3 | hugs his mostly-unchanged frostfire build |
| 00:34.12 | Adys | kd3: yeah Im frostfire too |
| 00:34.12 | Kraps | i want a "dont die quickly and be able to kill mob packs" for low lvl rogues |
| 00:34.16 | Adys | its the unchanged that bothers me |
| 00:34.26 | Tepel | You can't handle change |
| 00:34.28 | Adys | my dps is mostly unchanged since the beginning of the expansion |
| 00:34.28 | kd3 | it's a solid spec? |
| 00:34.33 | Adys | back when 3.6k was op |
| 00:34.36 | kd3 | even up a few tiers of dps? |
| 00:34.43 | kd3 | s/dps/gear/ |
| 00:34.47 | Amarande | blah, another bjarngrim wipe. |
| 00:34.54 | Amarande | I think I've wiped to him more than any other heroic boss |
| 00:35.02 | Adys | our fire/frostfire mages top 4k max |
| 00:35.07 | Adys | our arcane mages top 8k |
| 00:35.07 | Adys | ... |
| 00:35.14 | Amarande | healer DC |
| 00:35.22 | Amarande | healer DC usually causes wipes in heroics, heh |
| 00:35.27 | Tepel | I once did so much dps I killed my wow client |
| 00:35.33 | Kraps | Amarande: what mechanics are in that fight? |
| 00:35.40 | Amarande | kraps: don't die, mostly |
| 00:35.48 | Kraps | :| |
| 00:35.48 | Amarande | boss regularly gains a 30% damage buff |
| 00:35.51 | Amarande | that's about it |
| 00:36.12 | Jerub | lol, heroic wipes. |
| 00:36.23 | tem | Adys, are you sure you're not doing it wrong? |
| 00:36.30 | Adys | maybe i am |
| 00:36.35 | Jerub | well, except for H ToC |
| 00:36.39 | Tepel | Are you doing it from behind? |
| 00:36.44 | Adys | but i cant find any frostfire mage with my gear higher than 4.5k |
| 00:36.46 | Jerub | which i have wiped on so many times :( |
| 00:36.53 | Adys | and ive looked in every fucking raiding guild on my serv |
| 00:36.57 | tem | Adys, our fire mages rarely go below 5k |
| 00:37.07 | Adys | Im talking frostfire |
| 00:37.13 | Kraps | Jerub: H ToC still gives me difficulty shock |
| 00:37.17 | tem | unless it's a gay fight like Faction Champions |
| 00:37.27 | tem | oh. we don't have any frostfire |
| 00:38.15 | Jerub | Kraps: it's fucking insane. :( |
| 00:38.15 | Jerub | and we ALWAYS have colossos, and the pug tanks never interrupt properly. |
| 00:38.35 | Adys | frostfire is supposed to be BETTER than fire for dps |
| 00:38.42 | Adys | because its more terrible at pvp |
| 00:38.44 | Adys | fucks sake |
| 00:38.49 | mikma | lululululuuuu |
| 00:39.17 | Tepel | By that logic speccing 0/0/0 would make you insanely OP in PvE |
| 00:40.04 | Adys | Tepel: a spec is the amount of points invested into talents with a different bonus coefficient for pve or pvp |
| 00:40.17 | Adys | quit being a complete semantic twat, my logic is fine |
| 00:40.56 | Kraps | i herd semantics r fun |
| 00:42.15 | Kraps | so how does this unlocking of dungeons work? |
| 00:42.18 | Tepel | Are wolvar able to become druids by any chance? |
| 00:42.22 | Tepel | wait |
| 00:42.26 | Adys | worgen |
| 00:42.28 | Adys | not wolvar |
| 00:42.30 | Tepel | worgen right |
| 00:42.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Tepel: isn't the reverse true, too, so 0/0/0 should be insanely overpowered in pvp too, right? :P |
| 00:42.34 | Tepel | I was looking for that |
| 00:42.50 | Tepel | Omg! |
| 00:42.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Tepel: yes, i believe they can |
| 00:43.12 | Tepel | Omg! Furries are going to love that |
| 00:43.23 | Tepel | And texans |
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| 00:43.46 | Kraps | Tepel: they will have their own forms |
| 00:43.52 | Adys | they will |
| 00:43.54 | Adys | of course they will |
| 00:44.23 | Tepel | Wait, so it's more of a stance then a form then |
| 00:44.44 | Kraps | "The Lich King: Sylvanas, thirsty for vengeance against the corrupted prince who sentenced her to an existence as an undead monstrosity, and Jaina, eager to find a flicker of Arthas's soul locked somewhere within the Lich King, have brought their hand-picked allies to this final confrontation. Arthas's true power may only now be discovered. Is there any hope in this mission, or does only... |
| 00:44.45 | Kraps | ...death await?" |
| 00:45.06 | Kraps | thanks for not telling what we fight here |
| 00:45.24 | Tepel | quickly! add alcohol! |
| 00:45.29 | Kraps | dont think it'll be LK |
| 00:45.39 | NightHawkTheSane | takes a shot of crown |
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| 00:45.43 | NightHawkTheSane | done! |
| 00:45.47 | tem | Kraps, my theory is the lich king kills our guides |
| 00:46.06 | tem | the only problem with that theory is sylvannas would need a replacement |
| 00:46.07 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i'd be mildly annoyed if jaina and sylvanas die |
| 00:46.22 | tem | I wouldn't be surprized at all if they killed off Jaina |
| 00:46.24 | NightHawkTheSane | jainas like the only good human |
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| 00:46.34 | tem | but she's a strong voice for peace |
| 00:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | tem: -that- wouldn't surprise me, sadly. :\ |
| 00:47.05 | tem | it's part of the reason Thrall has to go do something else |
| 00:47.05 | tem | so that Garrosh can be a giant douchebag |
| 00:47.15 | Kraps | "Jaina, eager to find a flicker of Arthas's soul locked somewhere within the Lich King" |
| 00:47.16 | NightHawkTheSane | but with thrall potentially out of the picture, that moron back on the throne of stormwind, and garrosh in charge.. jaina will just get marginalized |
| 00:47.27 | tem | maybe so |
| 00:47.33 | Kraps | wtf jaina, you're fucking stupid |
| 00:47.35 | Adys | this is all a giant excuse to get jaina killed |
| 00:47.49 | Tepel | Enslaved would be a better option imho |
| 00:47.50 | Adys | so they can get rid of the whole "there is some kind of peace between horde and alliance" |
| 00:47.59 | Adys | and « cater to retards » |
| 00:48.43 | tem | Well, I -won't- be surprized if any major lore figures die off as a result of the assault on Icecrown |
| 00:48.52 | tem | (arthas not included for obvious reasons) |
| 00:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't be -surprised-, but outside of jaina, i'm not sure who they'd kill. |
| 00:49.43 | Tepel | The new Murloc King |
| 00:49.48 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe saurfang? |
| 00:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | (sp? |
| 00:49.56 | tem | Saurfang is already "dead" |
| 00:50.09 | tem | isn't he the one that "died" with Bolvar at the wrathgate? |
| 00:50.28 | NightHawkTheSane | that was "saurfang the younger" iirc |
| 00:50.36 | tem | I fully expect the two of them to be a boss encounter in the Raid, btw |
| 00:50.49 | tem | raised as DKs in the Lich King's army |
| 00:50.51 | NightHawkTheSane | High Overlord Saurfang is still quite alive |
| 00:50.55 | tem | oh |
| 00:50.59 | tem | that's kind of lame |
| 00:51.08 | tem | they killed a horde character I've never heard of |
| 00:51.44 | NightHawkTheSane | He did actually show up in BC, out in Nagrand. |
| 00:51.54 | NightHawkTheSane | But yeah, kind of a minor character |
| 00:51.59 | Kraps | tem: never heard of bolivar eaither |
| 00:52.31 | Tepel | Really? |
| 00:52.36 | NightHawkTheSane | .. you'd have to be kind of dense to not have heard of "Highlord Bolvar Fordragon" |
| 00:52.37 | Tepel | He's been in stormwind for ages |
| 00:52.50 | Tepel | protecting the little brat |
| 00:53.12 | Kraps | i'm a later breeder |
| 00:53.33 | Kraps | joined at the end of bc |
| 00:54.01 | Tepel | I still can't believe they killed bolvar though |
| 00:54.22 | Tepel | That was a major wtf when I first saw the wrathgate event |
| 00:54.39 | NightHawkTheSane | See the above note about getting all the somewhat-reasonable characters out of the way |
| 00:54.52 | NightHawkTheSane | jaina, thrall, and cairne are so next. |
| 00:55.16 | Tepel | Meh, as long as they leave my dwarven overlords alone |
| 00:55.27 | Tepel | Which reminds me, Muradin! |
| 00:57.19 | Kraps | have abyss crystal prices gone up? |
| 00:57.38 | Adys | yah |
| 00:57.44 | tem | Kraps, Bolvar was easily the most Badass Alliance NPC in the game |
| 00:57.45 | Tepel | Possibly, due to the new shatter spell |
| 00:57.50 | tem | killing him off deeply saddens me |
| 00:58.06 | Jerub | You know what I love? |
| 00:58.12 | Tepel | I wonder if Muradin awaits the same fate |
| 00:58.15 | Jerub | the idiot presenter dude in toc dies in EVERY SINGLE INSTANCe |
| 00:58.16 | Jerub | :D |
| 00:58.53 | Tepel | Cause there will be hell to pay if they do! |
| 01:00.03 | Jerub | OH NOES ANGRY WOW NERDS |
| 01:00.26 | Tepel | I wish they added a cutscene for the story about Muradin as he was found by the frostborn |
| 01:01.10 | amro | I wish WLK kept the same level of quest quality all around |
| 01:01.27 | amro | just enough good stuff to lure you in... agani |
| 01:01.32 | amro | s/agani/again/ |
| 01:01.47 | Tepel | You can only have that many of usefull stories |
| 01:01.58 | Tepel | s/usefull/useful/ |
| 01:02.03 | Tepel | I always do that |
| 01:02.39 | amro | it's not about the stories, it's about the polish |
| 01:03.04 | amro | dailies that ask you to kill named mobs? seriously? it's like they stopped caring altogether |
| 01:03.37 | Tepel | Yeah that was a suprise |
| 01:04.40 | Tepel | But what currently annoys me most the fact that Dark Herring doesn't have a glow with Demonslaying! |
| 01:05.04 | kd3 | hm... 130KB/s |
| 01:05.05 | kd3 | cries |
| 01:05.05 | Tepel | I made a ticket about that |
| 01:05.10 | Tepel | Nothing happened! |
| 01:05.11 | kd3 | wtb not-crappy backwater internet |
| 01:05.28 | Tepel | upload or download kd3 |
| 01:05.31 | kd3 | down |
| 01:05.34 | Tepel | sattelite |
| 01:05.39 | kd3 | dsl |
| 01:05.53 | kd3 | thankfully my latency isn't satellite-bad |
| 01:06.15 | kd3 | sighs again that they're making us download 1.4GB to get on the ptr |
| 01:06.34 | Tepel | If only there was some porn inside that 1.4gb |
| 01:06.57 | Jerub | what i hate is that jousting is basically impossible with high latency. |
| 01:07.14 | Tepel | anything is impossible with high latency |
| 01:07.23 | Jerub | nah, i can do heroics on 400ms just fine. |
| 01:07.27 | Jerub | but jousting can't be done. |
| 01:07.34 | amro | kd3: I've had mostly ~10kb/s for almost a month now |
| 01:07.50 | Jerub | kd3: where do you live? |
| 01:07.55 | kd3 | way west of atlanta |
| 01:07.59 | kd3 | amro; ow? |
| 01:08.40 | Tepel | I guess I'm just spoiled, usually I'm at 30ms |
| 01:08.48 | Jerub | so a 'local' backwater, not backwater like australia is |
| 01:08.52 | kd3 | no |
| 01:09.00 | kd3 | you aussies have it rough |
| 01:09.11 | Tepel | The Great Firewall Of Australia! |
| 01:09.17 | Tepel | silly aussies |
| 01:10.06 | amro | kd3: shitty isp going through shitty times = shitty shitty bandwidth |
| 01:10.21 | Tepel | And when one ISP advertises a normal broadband connection the politics go like "Wtf! You're advertising illegal downloads!" |
| 01:11.22 | Tepel | Anyway |
| 01:11.29 | Tepel | Time to stream HD pron |
| 01:11.44 | Jerub | yeah, it's getting better slowly |
| 01:11.56 | Jerub | and now that we've kicked that murrikan CEO out, we can actually progress. |
| 01:12.10 | Tepel | How does that relate to HD pron? |
| 01:12.37 | Jerub | he read the temperment of the australian people entirely wrong when he thought that by fighting regulation and trying to make his megacorp teleco seem the little guy vs. the government and regulators that the public would side with the teleco. |
| 01:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: you using the downloader or the raw torrent? |
| 01:12.51 | kd3 | neither |
| 01:13.03 | ScytheBlade1 | er? |
| 01:13.10 | amro | telepathic download |
| 01:13.11 | kd3 | I'm wgetting the hell off of the http seed mirrors |
| 01:13.15 | Tepel | lol |
| 01:13.19 | ScytheBlade1 | hshs |
| 01:13.22 | ScytheBlade1 | *haha |
| 01:13.30 | Tepel | btw, are any of you using the BFS kernel patch? |
| 01:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I was wondering if I had given you my script or not |
| 01:14.02 | Adys | kd3: build # ? |
| 01:14.05 | kd3 | I'm using my own. probably less nice on their hardware than yours is |
| 01:14.05 | kd3 | 10522 |
| 01:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | kinda doubt it, considering I've pulled 8MB/sec down from their mirrors :) |
| 01:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | what is the raw HTTP link? |
| 01:15.59 | kd3 | http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/WoW-0.3.0.10522-enUS-ptr-patch.exe/5042 |
| 01:16.03 | kd3 | it's ~1.4GB |
| 01:17.41 | Jerub | I really only just realised that the major reason i don't read quest descriptions and know nothing about the lore, is that of all the quests i've done all the way up to 80, the only one I can remember making a CHOICE in is the orphan week one. |
| 01:17.56 | Jerub | Where I got to choose to take an oracle orphan around instead of another type of orphan. |
| 01:18.10 | kd3 | choices? in an mmo? |
| 01:18.14 | kd3 | only at character creation |
| 01:18.19 | Jerub | That's a fundamental 'questing' 'rpg' tenant that's missing in WoW |
| 01:18.25 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, my new chunk finding algorithm is broke |
| 01:19.04 | Kraps | what server is hobbs on? |
| 01:19.18 | Thunder_Child | which ever one has calvin |
| 01:20.06 | ScytheBlade1 | 4988 fragments, spawning 50 threads... |
| 01:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | not quite the right number |
| 01:20.12 | Dagmar | You have the choice to say "You're an idiot. Clean up your own mess." |
| 01:20.13 | amro | Jerub: exactly |
| 01:20.50 | Dagmar | I did it rather a lot. |
| 01:20.53 | Jerub | oh! I made a second choice! |
| 01:20.56 | Jerub | scryers vs. aldor |
| 01:21.12 | Dagmar | There's also that idiot chump in Nagrand |
| 01:21.16 | amro | I didn't. I read somewhere that aldor > scryers for my spec |
| 01:21.42 | WobWork | I can joust fine at 500ms |
| 01:21.59 | WobWork | Although, I kinda jump-joust a lot |
| 01:22.16 | WobWork | it's like jumpshotting, but with charging =P |
| 01:22.18 | kd3 | shock; they posted the notes on the website before the patch was made available |
| 01:22.28 | bleeter | fuck me people crying in guild about the PTR's 1-15 changes |
| 01:22.29 | WobWork | cause you don't have to not be moving when you charge, you just have to be facing the right direction |
| 01:23.19 | Dagmar | Not reall |
| 01:23.21 | Dagmar | y |
| 01:23.28 | WobWork | oh and in 'range' |
| 01:23.53 | Dagmar | It would make the barricade a lot harder if you coulnd't strafe away and then *BING* instant 180 degree charge |
| 01:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: real 7m7.413s |
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| 01:24.19 | WobWork | Dagmar: what's 'not really' then? |
| 01:24.23 | kd3 | makes a lot of rude gestures |
| 01:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: that is download + assembly.. so I think I got your server abuse beat |
| 01:24.32 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Download was about 2m |
| 01:24.39 | WobWork | Cause I've had a lot of "You must be facing your target" errors |
| 01:24.52 | Dagmar | You don't really have to be facing in the "right" direction to charge on those mounts. |
| 01:24.53 | kd3 | my eta's somewhere around 3 hours by my guestimate |
| 01:25.08 | WobWork | well, you have to be in 180 radius at least |
| 01:25.14 | Dagmar | SImply strafe away after you hit them. |
| 01:25.14 | kd3 | I've got uh... 164MB at present |
| 01:25.21 | Dagmar | Not even that |
| 01:25.24 | Dagmar | I'm serious. |
| 01:25.27 | WobWork | nu-uh |
| 01:25.45 | WobWork | So am I |
| 01:25.45 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.54 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.3.0 |
| 01:25.58 | bleeter | kd3: yeah that URL don't work for me :P |
| 01:25.59 | WobWork | Dagmar: perhaps your latency allows for that =) |
| 01:26.10 | Dagmar | I mean, I'm glad they made the commanders not so @#$@$@ ridiculously hard to kill, but I hit them, hold 'A' and wait for the charge timer to refresh and then SMACK hit them again |
| 01:26.11 | ScytheBlade1 | bah, my size detection is still broke |
| 01:26.11 | kd3 | I'll have the UI diff once I'm done downloading at oh-dark-hundred |
| 01:26.19 | ScytheBlade1 | but I was only short 1x25MB chunk |
| 01:26.19 | Dagmar | I have sub-100 latency |
| 01:26.22 | WobWork | yes |
| 01:26.24 | WobWork | yes you do |
| 01:26.27 | WobWork | damn your eyes |
| 01:26.33 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 01:26.36 | WobWork | I've never had two digit latency =P |
| 01:26.40 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: yeah was some chunk type of thing |
| 01:26.46 | Dagmar | It also makes ToC a lot easier if you just strasfe around the center the whole time |
| 01:27.06 | WobWork | Thank god for the ToC changes |
| 01:27.13 | Jerub | how do you skip the toc intro btw? |
| 01:27.17 | Jerub | I saw somoene do it, but i don't know how |
| 01:27.17 | WobWork | instant start and phase change is fantastic |
| 01:27.21 | WobWork | Jerub: it's a chat choice |
| 01:27.25 | Jerub | ah hah |
| 01:27.28 | Dagmar | ...because so long as the downed guys are in that middling area, *someone's* very likely to just be running them over anyway the moment they try to getg up |
| 01:27.50 | WobWork | Dagmar: I gain a rather morbid sense of satisfaction trampling them |
| 01:27.56 | Dagmar | Just um, don't get cocky about the despawn thing the faction bosses do |
| 01:27.59 | WobWork | over and over and over... |
| 01:28.09 | Dagmar | I made a complete ass of myself earlier this week |
| 01:28.16 | WobWork | stood near the gate? |
| 01:28.19 | Dagmar | You beat them, they walk out and then respawn. |
| 01:28.35 | Dagmar | ONE minute later, they'll despawn again and THEN you can fight them |
| 01:28.49 | Dagmar | If you attack them after they initially respawn, they just disappear the moment you engage |
| 01:28.49 | Jerub | is it a whole minute? |
| 01:28.57 | Jerub | oh right |
| 01:29.02 | Dagmar | Might be 30-45s, I haven't paid that much attention |
| 01:29.02 | Jerub | weird. |
| 01:29.23 | Jerub | I only ever fought them without running otu the once, before that change. |
| 01:29.29 | Jerub | we beat them, but it was a close thing. |
| 01:29.36 | WobWork | if you pile them up |
| 01:29.36 | Dagmar | What I do know is that if you're *standing* there yelling "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!" then the initiall respawn, they *won't* despawn .... |
| 01:29.41 | WobWork | then it's just a case of the tank not failing |
| 01:29.49 | WobWork | and everyone else not failing to swap weapons back out |
| 01:29.50 | Jerub | I can't believe blizz did that. You'd think they'd put more thought into it. |
| 01:29.50 | Dagmar | ...until after they've beatn you to death for being a cheeky dwarf. |
| 01:29.52 | Kraps | "Dear Blizzard, do you all have sh*t for brains?" i love it |
| 01:30.08 | WobWork | s/else/ |
| 01:30.13 | Kraps | "Why don't u guys pull your heads out of eachother's as*es and force pple to do normal raidprogression if they want good gear. " |
| 01:30.20 | Dagmar | I thought it would be funny to "scare them off" |
| 01:30.33 | WobWork | Dagmar: they had the last laugh? |
| 01:30.40 | Dagmar | Kraps: Pay no attention to the trailer-park dwelling raiders |
| 01:30.52 | Dagmar | WobWork: I could practically hear them muttering "smart ass dwarf" |
| 01:31.17 | Dagmar | If you wait until they've done their first respawn tho you can get away with it |
| 01:31.20 | Dagmar | Just don't be standing there. |
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| 01:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: 5695 chunks, right? |
| 01:40.32 | ScytheBlade1 | if so, 3:04 to download |
| 01:40.35 | kd3 | afaik; my client downloads linearly stopping once it hits a 404 |
| 01:40.36 | ScytheBlade1 | pats his server |
| 01:40.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 01:40.49 | kd3 | lua>(2**20)*1.4*4 |
| 01:40.50 | lua_bot | kd3: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '*' |
| 01:41.10 | kd3 | er |
| 01:41.13 | kd3 | lua>echo (2**20)*1.4*4 |
| 01:41.14 | lua_bot | kd3: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '*' |
| 01:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | mine spawns a series of threads, 1 per 25MB of data |
| 01:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | 5695 fragments, spawning 57 threads... |
| 01:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | so |
| 01:41.19 | ScytheBlade1 | 57 parallel downloads |
| 01:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ** isn't valid |
| 01:41.41 | kd3 | lua>echo (2^30)*1.4*4 |
| 01:41.42 | lua_bot | kd3: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'echo' (a nil value) |
| 01:41.48 | kd3 | lua>print (2^30)*1.4*4 |
| 01:41.48 | lua_bot | kd3: 1073741824, luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 01:41.52 | kd3 | gah, I'm not thinking in lua tonight |
| 01:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> (2^30)*1.4*4 |
| 01:42.11 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: 6012954214.4 |
| 01:42.42 | kd3 | lua> ((2^30)*1.4*4)/(256*1024) |
| 01:42.43 | lua_bot | kd3: 22937.6 |
| 01:42.49 | kd3 | wait, no |
| 01:42.54 | kd3 | looks for another coke |
| 01:43.00 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:44.14 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, faster the second time around, despite downloading ~700 additional chunks |
| 01:44.15 | ScytheBlade1 | real 6m50.251s |
| 01:44.33 | kd3 | but yah, 5695 chunks |
| 01:44.43 | kd3 | needs to stop overthinking |
| 01:45.22 | kd3 | lua>4*1.39*2^10 |
| 01:45.23 | lua_bot | kd3: 5693.44 |
| 01:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | k |
| 01:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> ((3*60)+7)/1492910907/1024 |
| 01:46.31 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: 1.2232289726315e-10 |
| 01:46.34 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 01:46.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I did that wrong |
| 01:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, you can now properly hate on me kd3 |
| 01:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | 7.61MB/sec |
| 01:47.42 | kd3 | grr |
| 01:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | course |
| 01:48.02 | ScytheBlade1 | now I have to transfer that to my house |
| 01:48.03 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 01:48.16 | kd3 | yay for sneakernet? |
| 01:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | atlanta to utah |
| 01:48.28 | ScytheBlade1 | uh, no. :) |
| 01:48.41 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:52.13 | ScytheBlade1 | 50m eta |
| 01:52.52 | Dagmar | I think you have to use the station wagon protocol for that |
| 01:56.14 | ScytheBlade1 | nah, aircraft |
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| 01:59.28 | Shirik | sigh |
| 01:59.39 | Kraps | not sure what "warrior's dream" from the blizzcon contest is about |
| 01:59.53 | Shirik | it really sucks when someone says "here, have free $36000 worth of software" and you have to respond with "That's nice, but we also asked for this too..." |
| 02:02.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/server-bw.png |
| 02:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | pats his server lovingly |
| 02:02.27 | kd3 | this is me killing sbo over the internet |
| 02:03.08 | Shirik | rofl ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:03.12 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 02:03.21 | Dagmar | So long as it's not GOogle's BGP breaking you're good |
| 02:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | exactly what it looks like |
| 02:03.31 | Shirik | your server isn't very used is it |
| 02:03.33 | kd3 | him pounding blizz's http seeds for the ptr download |
| 02:03.47 | Dagmar | ...but they generally targtet asiapac, who probably had it coming anyhoo |
| 02:04.08 | kd3 | whee! ~30% done |
| 02:04.21 | Sixen | ne wptr? |
| 02:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | 27% copied to home |
| 02:04.32 | kd3 | 3.3.0.10522 |
| 02:04.40 | kd3 | copies are up |
| 02:04.41 | Kraps | :o http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6273/grats.jpg |
| 02:04.50 | Sixen | forum is up too |
| 02:05.17 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, your network usage looks like my disk usage |
| 02:05.37 | Dagmar | I like that error page |
| 02:08.03 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/11031094170-abuse-of-religion.html |
| 02:09.38 | Dagmar | Good thing they locked it |
| 02:09.44 | Dagmar | It was a jackassed post |
| 02:10.12 | Dagmar | The tip-off being the mention of being stoned to death by irrational lunatics./ |
| 02:10.29 | Jerub | Yeah, there's this terrible meme of "acknowledgement of a religion/gender/race is terrible, we should remove all references to it everywhere" |
| 02:10.54 | Dagmar | Well, it's just a pat formula for trolling |
| 02:11.44 | Dagmar | Cite obscure loony's taboo against common thing X, claim indirectly that it should apply to everyone everywhere. |
| 02:12.04 | Dagmar | WHAT THE HELL WOULD THE QUAKERS SAY! |
| 02:12.17 | Jerub | Dagmar: "pull your socks up hippy" |
| 02:12.21 | Dagmar | Pretty much |
| 02:12.48 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 02:12.48 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure if the Quakers cared about things outside their strongholds, they'd be worse than Jack Thompson |
| 02:12.50 | Fisker | SHIRIK |
| 02:13.39 | Dagmar | I'm only mildly ijmpressed that they didn't mention the Christian's general prohibtion against magic |
| 02:13.50 | Dagmar | Of course, that person is probably playing a mage |
| 02:14.18 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: your wave invite still hasn't reached me. what happened to it? |
| 02:14.28 | Jerub | Fisker: you got that wave invite already? |
| 02:15.04 | Fisker | nope |
| 02:15.26 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: it takes a long time for the invites to come through |
| 02:15.32 | Jerub | I have 1 invite left if anyone wants it ;) |
| 02:15.39 | Gnarfoz | I doubt he ever sent me one! |
| 02:15.40 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 02:16.25 | Fisker | i didn't have google wave so i'm not sure how i would be able to |
| 02:17.43 | WobWork | Jerub: I'll have it! =) |
| 02:17.54 | Jerub | WobWork: I'll need your email address, and 1000g |
| 02:18.13 | Jerub | ponders selling google wave accounts on /2 |
| 02:18.17 | Gnarfoz | mine is my nick @gmail of course :\ |
| 02:18.28 | Jerub | okay, Gnarfoz wins |
| 02:18.33 | Gnarfoz | woot ;D |
| 02:18.34 | WobWork | damnit |
| 02:18.36 | Gnarfoz | awsum |
| 02:18.39 | Jerub | sent |
| 02:18.39 | WobWork | I asked first =( |
| 02:18.46 | Gnarfoz | replied 2nd, though! |
| 02:18.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:18.51 | WobWork | fail |
| 02:18.59 | WobWork | oh well |
| 02:19.02 | Fisker | i'll save one for you WobWork ! |
| 02:19.02 | Jerub | enough people here will have accounts in the next 24 hours to get you a dozen accounts :D |
| 02:19.07 | WobWork | Wave is pretty useless if your friends don't have it as well =P |
| 02:19.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 02:19.21 | Fisker | you need friends? :( |
| 02:19.24 | WobWork | and we all know Gnarfoz doesn't have friends =) |
| 02:19.33 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 02:19.34 | Gnarfoz | how could I? I raid 7 days a week |
| 02:19.36 | Fisker | wanna be lonely together? |
| 02:19.40 | WobWork | it's a hard life |
| 02:19.44 | Jerub | how can you raid 7 days? server shutdown? |
| 02:19.49 | Fisker | i raid 8 days a week |
| 02:19.53 | Gnarfoz | just rolling restarts! |
| 02:20.04 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: It *feels* like 8 days really :\ |
| 02:20.12 | Kraps | http://www.tvsquad.com/2009/09/23/its-jack-bauer-on-call-of-duty/ |
| 02:20.26 | Fisker | Well if you multiboxing 5 shammies it's 35 days a week |
| 02:20.28 | Fisker | also |
| 02:20.33 | Fisker | I should get up in an hour or so |
| 02:20.44 | Fisker | which means i should've slept like 4 hours ago |
| 02:20.44 | Gnarfoz | better get "down" first, then |
| 02:20.51 | Jerub | my wow account used to belong to a guy who multiboxed 2 accounts. |
| 02:21.02 | Jerub | he stopped wowing so seriously so he gave his account to me. |
| 02:21.39 | bleeter | oops, almost started doing my dailies again |
| 02:21.42 | Fisker | Well then you're reported for account sharing |
| 02:21.49 | Fisker | Thanks for that google wave invite btw! |
| 02:21.50 | Fisker | :P |
| 02:22.02 | bleeter | bad bug is bad |
| 02:22.36 | bleeter | christ, I dunno if doing the WG dailies again was 'coz I 'deserved' to do them, or 'coz of the dailies bug |
| 02:22.39 | bleeter | fuck |
| 02:22.43 | bleeter | hope I don't get an account warning or some shit |
| 02:22.50 | bleeter | fuck fuck fuckity fuck |
| 02:22.59 | WobWork | bleeter: ? |
| 02:23.23 | bleeter | WobWork: do your dailies, relog, go do them again |
| 02:23.31 | WobWork | I'm at work =P |
| 02:23.37 | bleeter | at least, working that way on caelestrasz at the moment |
| 02:23.45 | Amarande | yay, 8 more conqs and I can get a T8 robe and have sane hit rating situations again |
| 02:25.42 | WobWork | Jerub: so how -is- google wave? |
| 02:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb an invite |
| 02:25.58 | WobWork | I -had- one |
| 02:26.03 | WobWork | but gnarfoz stole it |
| 02:26.07 | WobWork | =( |
| 02:26.20 | Jerub | WobWork: it's multiplayer irc. |
| 02:26.30 | WobWork | like... irc isn't multiplayer already? |
| 02:26.31 | Jerub | I think it will be ideal for noobs who don't have irc to communicate. |
| 02:26.33 | WobWork | omg, you're all bots |
| 02:26.33 | Dagmar | fail |
| 02:26.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowalert |
| 02:26.38 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 02:26.49 | Dagmar | IRC is already multiplayer. |
| 02:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 02:28.08 | Gnarfoz | IRC is mulitplayer notepad :p |
| 02:28.28 | Dagmar | Pretty much. |
| 02:28.46 | Jerub | hm, MMO IRC more like. |
| 02:29.00 | Kraps | so where can i watch movies online, for free? |
| 02:29.06 | Dagmar | l2google |
| 02:29.54 | Fisker | google wave Kraps |
| 02:30.26 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49908/icecrown-thing-of-crafting-things-ph/ |
| 02:30.39 | bleeter | google wave, yet another wonderful aussie invention! :D |
| 02:30.46 | kd3 | lmao |
| 02:31.25 | bleeter | I hear the wifi case comes to court, soon. did I hear, in Texas? lolol |
| 02:32.29 | Fisker | aww |
| 02:32.45 | Shirik | !! |
| 02:32.50 | Shirik | I gots google voice invite! |
| 02:32.58 | Dagmar | I wish I could get one |
| 02:32.58 | bleeter | yup, did my argent tourney dailies, no blue ! above NPCs, went to char selection, logged back in... there's the blue ! |
| 02:33.17 | Gnarfoz | Adys: haha |
| 02:33.24 | bleeter | I got google voice invite... went through the procedure, then they noticed my google account says I'm in .au so they knocked me back |
| 02:33.31 | bleeter | I was all 'fail at noticing that 1st time, idiots' |
| 02:33.40 | Jerub | stupid americans. |
| 02:33.48 | bleeter | Jerub: redundancy |
| 02:33.51 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/47520/cleave/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/48467/hurricane/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/48792/icebound-fortitude/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/2645/ghost-wolf/ |
| 02:33.56 | Adys | how you guys like my inline glyphs =] |
| 02:34.41 | bleeter | Adys: noice :) |
| 02:35.26 | Gnarfoz | Adys: weird |
| 02:35.32 | Kraps | new evony ad |
| 02:35.43 | Dagmar | Full frontal nudity this time? |
| 02:35.57 | Gnarfoz | at least on cleave it looks weird, ghost wolf is better |
| 02:36.00 | *** part/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 02:36.00 | Kraps | lul |
| 02:36.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 02:36.09 | Adys | [05:36:47] <Gnarfoz> at least on cleave it looks weird, ghost wolf is better |
| 02:36.11 | Adys | yah |
| 02:36.14 | Adys | gonna tweak a bit |
| 02:37.31 | Fisker | why not same color but strikethrough? |
| 02:37.49 | Adys | i need something readable for both glyphed and unglyphed |
| 02:38.03 | Fisker | ah true |
| 02:38.29 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
| 02:39.30 | kd3 | "the ashen verdict"? |
| 02:39.35 | Adys | new faction |
| 02:39.36 | kd3 | good god, another rep grind? |
| 02:39.38 | Adys | i guess icecrown rep |
| 02:40.04 | Fisker | i need another rep grind |
| 02:40.16 | Fisker | I want rep grinds in raid instances back |
| 02:40.17 | kd3 | like another hole in the head |
| 02:40.17 | Fisker | :( |
| 02:40.30 | Fisker | Also to be able to use the tabard in raids |
| 02:41.02 | Fisker | i wonder if misdirection/tricks of the trade will see a redesign during the PTR :P |
| 02:42.10 | Fisker | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/70063/fury-of-frostmourne/ <-tsk won't even kill us in the next expansion |
| 02:42.28 | Fisker | yay |
| 02:42.31 | Fisker | another nerf for palas |
| 02:44.22 | Adys | FISKERITA |
| 02:44.22 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/69404/curse-of-agony/ |
| 02:44.34 | Adys | WHAT DOES THE WARLOCK SAY ABOUT ITS CURSE OF AGONY |
| 02:44.54 | Amarande | well, looks like tonight I learned why my Snowmaster 9000s don't sell on AH |
| 02:45.03 | Adys | because its fucking useless |
| 02:45.16 | Amarande | Adys: because you get snowballs from the Brunnhildar dailies now |
| 02:45.23 | Adys | hence |
| 02:45.23 | Adys | because its fucking useless |
| 02:45.47 | Amarande | hmm, this is the PTR Curse of Agony? |
| 02:45.50 | Amarande | I can't imagine it staying |
| 02:46.00 | Amarande | main issue: it makes curse of doom utterly useless, if it's that strong ... :| |
| 02:46.01 | Fisker | it's exactly nine thousand Adys |
| 02:46.15 | Adys | Amarande: you know npcs right |
| 02:46.18 | Adys | and you know like |
| 02:46.19 | Adys | spells |
| 02:46.21 | Adys | that npcs cast |
| 02:46.31 | Adys | and you know this is just |
| 02:46.32 | Adys | i mean |
| 02:46.35 | Amarande | oh, is this a boss version |
| 02:46.39 | Adys | not to be a complete ass but use fucking logic. |
| 02:46.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: thats a damned dirty lie! |
| 02:46.45 | WobWork | Adys: I dunno |
| 02:46.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: oh, no, please, be a complete ass. |
| 02:46.49 | WobWork | with the inline glyphs |
| 02:46.51 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 02:47.16 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/66/invisibility/ |
| 02:47.16 | WobWork | maybe if there's a replacement text (like in cleave) you can have it strikethrough the old stuff and add the new stuff to the end |
| 02:47.20 | WobWork | (on mouseover) |
| 02:47.28 | Adys | this isnt only glyphs |
| 02:47.29 | Adys | its talents too |
| 02:47.34 | Amarande | Fisker: tabard in raids isn't such a good idea |
| 02:47.41 | Amarande | I think WotLK hit the right balance between five mans and raids |
| 02:47.50 | Amarande | we don't want to go back to BC days when you couldn't do five mans at all most of the time |
| 02:47.53 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/5697/unending-breath/ |
| 02:47.56 | *** part/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 02:48.00 | WobWork | but yeah, maybe have it in red |
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| 02:48.05 | WobWork | then when you mouseover, it turns green |
| 02:48.10 | Adys | repaste |
| 02:48.12 | WobWork | and the tooltip moves to the side |
| 02:48.13 | Jerub | Amarande: why could you not do 5mans? |
| 02:48.30 | Fisker | Amarande well maybe 3.3 will change things, but that's not how it went down for my rogue |
| 02:48.32 | Amarande | Jerub: because there was hardly anyone interested in doing them |
| 02:48.36 | Fisker | pretty much daily |
| 02:48.40 | Jerub | oh, and why are tabards in raids not a good idea? |
| 02:48.41 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/17962/conflagrate/ |
| 02:48.41 | WobWork | or rather have the glyph/talent tooltip move -next- to the base box |
| 02:48.42 | Fisker | even the emblem farms are over by now |
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| 02:48.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 02:48.49 | Amarande | occasionally people who wanted to do the daily heroic, but that was about it |
| 02:48.51 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/2687/bloodrage/ |
| 02:49.06 | Amarande | Jerub: because that means you have less reason to go to 5-mans |
| 02:49.16 | WobWork | Adys: otherwise it just looks confusing |
| 02:49.16 | Amarande | it'll be like BC again, where you only went to kara and up because you only -needed- to go to kara and up |
| 02:49.18 | Jerub | a month ago it was easy to get emblem farming going but now it's much harder. lots more people doing ony/voa |
| 02:49.21 | Jerub | the small raids. |
| 02:49.41 | Jerub | ony/voa/os |
| 02:49.42 | Adys | WobWork: problem is |
| 02:49.43 | Amarande | and yeah, I can get into some of the smaller raids now, probably get to the bigger ones in not too long now |
| 02:49.43 | kd3 | yay! 50% done with the download... another 700MB to go |
| 02:49.44 | Amarande | but |
| 02:49.44 | kd3 | sighs |
| 02:49.47 | Adys | i cant have this outside the tooltip really |
| 02:49.59 | WobWork | the tooltip is stuck to the cursor? |
| 02:50.05 | Amarande | I'd kinda like to have something to do instancewise after the first or second day of the raid lockout cycle :) |
| 02:50.19 | kd3 | adys; maybe a before line and an after line with the differences highlighted instead of inline? |
| 02:50.40 | WobWork | agrees |
| 02:50.45 | kd3 | before: fades over 3 seconds and drops threat ...; after: fades instantly and drops threat ... |
| 02:50.46 | WobWork | I think the inline is a bit too confusing |
| 02:50.53 | bleeter | stabs centrelink |
| 02:51.03 | Adys | what I could do is .. |
| 02:51.07 | WobWork | bleeter: hm, I have to tell them about my change in status =P |
| 02:51.12 | WobWork | from two months ago |
| 02:51.13 | Adys | have a lil bit of js that toggles between both |
| 02:51.58 | WobWork | and have the glyph/talent toggle between green and red |
| 02:52.19 | bleeter | WobWork: I have to take a form in that they've yet to send me... |
| 02:52.44 | WobWork | oh make sure you check the date on that form |
| 02:52.47 | WobWork | for the interview |
| 02:52.58 | WobWork | cause I completely missed seeing the date, and missed it |
| 02:53.01 | bleeter | 'coz I rang them up asking where the hell the paperwork they owe me was, and they were all 'oh we haven't sent it to you 'coz you haven't returned such and such form' to which I said 'how can I return that which you have not sent' |
| 02:53.11 | bleeter | woman on phone goes 'oh... are you near an office?' |
| 02:53.12 | WobWork | cause I thought they'd ring me up and inform me of a scheduled interview |
| 02:53.24 | bleeter | yeah I have no form |
| 02:53.27 | bleeter | eedjets |
| 02:53.44 | WobWork | bleeter: are you near an office? =) |
| 02:53.53 | bleeter | two suburbs away =) |
| 02:53.56 | bleeter | hell |
| 02:54.02 | bleeter | everywhere in hobart's two suburbs away |
| 02:54.23 | tem | oh god damnit |
| 02:54.26 | tem | nature resist gear |
| 02:54.28 | bleeter | funny thing about clink, they insist you put your form in at the nearest office, or the nearest but one |
| 02:54.29 | tem | fuck off blizzard |
| 02:54.35 | Adys | wait |
| 02:54.35 | Adys | what |
| 02:54.38 | bleeter | and ... all offices in hobart are nearest but one |
| 02:54.38 | Adys | just noticed the id |
| 02:54.39 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/66/invisibility/ |
| 02:54.50 | NightHawkTheSane | tem: eh? |
| 02:54.57 | WobWork | 66? |
| 02:55.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It was around in alpha |
| 02:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Only removed in the initial form due to OPness |
| 02:55.10 | bleeter | yeah invisibility was in alpha |
| 02:55.15 | Jerub | I hate centerlink |
| 02:55.17 | Adys | yeah but THAT low? |
| 02:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | why not? |
| 02:55.26 | Jerub | I'd prefer to get a job instead of dealing with centerlink |
| 02:55.28 | bleeter | was a base mage ability |
| 02:55.53 | bleeter | Jerub: I've been trying that, injuries though... can't do shit. need health care card, so they're forcing me onto payments... /shrug |
| 02:55.57 | kd3 | back in the old alpha, ya? |
| 02:56.04 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 02:56.08 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb that version |
| 02:56.13 | bleeter | i don't want the payments, but they're telling me I must take them for the health care card. where's the sense in that?? |
| 02:56.54 | Jerub | bleeter: man, that sucks. |
| 02:57.51 | cog|away | Shirik: you're going to hate me soon. Or i'm going to hate you. Or other people will hate both of us. Whichever way, there will be h8 |
| 02:58.38 | tem | NHTS, some of the new gear in the 3.3 data is ilvl 251 NR gear |
| 02:58.55 | Kraps | lol new itunes build |
| 02:59.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 02:59.04 | bleeter | Kraps: 100MB? |
| 02:59.09 | Jerub | NHTS? |
| 02:59.10 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh. good bet they intend to use it, i guess |
| 02:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: me. |
| 02:59.18 | bleeter | why the fuck can't Apple supply diff patching |
| 02:59.20 | Jerub | oh, right. |
| 02:59.26 | Jerub | I was thinking "Not happy to say" |
| 02:59.41 | NightHawkTheSane | well, thats probably also true in tem's case ;) |
| 02:59.52 | bleeter | tem: been a while since Blizz have had serious +NAT requirements in raid :P |
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| 03:00.36 | kd3 | hi2u huhupants |
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| 03:00.59 | Jerub | HToc25 gear is 258 isn't it? |
| 03:01.09 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 03:01.18 | Jerub | I hope more epic level craftables come out. |
| 03:01.26 | NightHawkTheSane | quite likely there will be |
| 03:01.36 | Jerub | I'm loving my new drums. |
| 03:01.37 | Gnarfoz | already there on the ptr right now |
| 03:01.47 | Shirik | cog|away, why? |
| 03:01.56 | Jerub | I freaked out a party member who was looking at the kings buff with 30 minutes left, the party list, the buff, the party list. |
| 03:02.50 | Gnarfoz | still don't get why they drew the line this side of Arcane Intellect and not the other side of it |
| 03:03.08 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: which line? |
| 03:03.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: tank surivability |
| 03:03.38 | Gnarfoz | they had a scroll for it |
| 03:03.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: AI does nothing for it |
| 03:03.42 | Gnarfoz | and removed it |
| 03:04.18 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: and gotw does? meh |
| 03:04.28 | cog|away | Shirik: you'll see |
| 03:04.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: significantly moreso than ai, yes. ;) |
| 03:04.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: I'm not making a value judgement, merely giving the reason i've seen stated. *shrug* |
| 03:04.48 | Gnarfoz | paladins.....something! |
| 03:04.48 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:04.59 | ajmitch | Gnarfoz: GotW directly impacts stam & armour for a tank, they say they want to balance around similar values of that |
| 03:05.08 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know their statement on it, it just seemed arbitrary :\ |
| 03:05.56 | Adys | [05:59:28] <+tem> NHTS, some of the new gear in the 3.3 data is ilvl 251 NR gear |
| 03:05.56 | Adys | yes |
| 03:06.00 | Adys | but it looks completely fucked |
| 03:06.22 | kd3 | of course. it's the first build. when has gear ever been fully implemented in build 0? |
| 03:06.42 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49902/puresteel-legplates/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49903/legplates-of-painful-death/ http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49904/pillars-of-might/ Im not an expert but this looks placeholderey |
| 03:08.09 | ajmitch | just like 'Icecrown thing of crafting things' doesn't quite sound like it'll go live? |
| 03:08.34 | ajmitch | they're getting pretty creative with the names there |
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| 03:13.39 | kd3 | well hi there |
| 03:13.39 | kd3 | waits for the wallops |
| 03:13.45 | NightHawkTheSane | wallops kd3 |
| 03:14.21 | kd3 | ooh, new totems: |
| 03:14.23 | kd3 | http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7149/wowscrnshot100109230916.jpg |
| 03:14.32 | Adys | neat |
| 03:14.32 | Shirik | cog|away |
| 03:14.33 | Shirik | admit it |
| 03:14.36 | Shirik | you did the netsplit |
| 03:14.57 | cog|away | ON U |
| 03:14.57 | NightHawkTheSane | oh snap, those are neat |
| 03:14.57 | cog|away | s/ON/NO/ |
| 03:15.19 | WobWork | ooh nice |
| 03:15.40 | WobWork | I wonder what the orc/tauren ones will look like |
| 03:15.50 | Shirik | Anyone here live in the DC area? Preferably area code 703/571 |
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| 03:16.30 | kd3 | go faster, damn you! |
| 03:16.33 | kd3 | 62%... |
| 03:16.37 | kd3 | cries some more |
| 03:16.43 | tem | WobWork, I don't expect taurens to get a new set |
| 03:17.17 | Kraps | steam = valve? |
| 03:19.03 | WobWork | Kraps: yes? |
| 03:19.47 | NightHawkTheSane | there's this new thing, on the intertubes. it's called google. i know it's still new, and kinda experimental, but you should try it. |
| 03:20.33 | WobWork | hm |
| 03:20.41 | WobWork | so they're not offering google wave outside of the US |
| 03:20.45 | WobWork | bastards |
| 03:21.44 | Kraps | wow, web-conferencing from teh goog |
| 03:21.56 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: You know what's really fun? |
| 03:22.00 | Shirik | Using the wayback machine on google |
| 03:22.05 | Shirik | Did that a few days ago |
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| 03:22.24 | Kraps | and its called wave for some reason |
| 03:22.44 | Kraps | cuz its web 3.0, bitch |
| 03:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yes, you said that. a few days ago. |
| 03:24.11 | Shirik | oh :( |
| 03:24.19 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
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| 03:29.09 | sylvanaar | does it go way back to gopher |
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| 03:32.41 | kd3 | orc totems |
| 03:32.44 | kd3 | http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8762/wowscrnshot100109192919.jpg |
| 03:33.25 | Arrowmaster | you could have just turned off the names |
| 03:33.50 | kd3 | that wasn't me |
| 03:33.54 | Adys | are the old totems gonna be used anywhere? |
| 03:33.57 | kd3 | still has an hour to go to finish downloading |
| 03:33.58 | kd3 | dunno |
| 03:34.04 | Fisker | you mean 4 axes thrown in the ground kd3 |
| 03:34.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: tauren perhaps |
| 03:34.13 | Adys | maybe |
| 03:34.35 | NightHawkTheSane | they're rather taurenish as-is |
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| 03:35.46 | WobWork | they have -horns- |
| 03:35.51 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU have horns |
| 03:35.55 | WobWork | it's true |
| 03:36.11 | WobWork | but throwing down totems that look like cowbells would be hi-lar-iouis |
| 03:36.26 | NightHawkTheSane | iouis? |
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| 03:37.03 | WobWork | one of my friends says "That was HIGH-LAIR-RIOUS!" |
| 03:37.08 | Fisker | rage |
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| 03:38.36 | NightHawkTheSane | man, always sunny in philadelphia is great |
| 03:39.05 | Fisker | the black knight better be back in icecrown citadel btw |
| 03:39.13 | Fisker | He should be the shade of akama of black temple |
| 03:40.06 | Dashkal | He should be back, but as a critter. Dude's failed enough to deserve it. |
| 03:45.29 | Kraps | any dell customers know where you can see when you bought your computer on your profile page? |
| 03:50.53 | Kraps | win 7 upgrade is only $119 |
| 03:56.26 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 03:56.59 | Fisker | any new interesting lua stuff? |
| 03:56.59 | robotusch | Fisker |
| 03:56.59 | robotusch | God fucking damn it |
| 03:56.59 | robotusch | I got my last baby crocolisk :3 |
| 03:56.59 | kd3 | 1.13/1.39GB |
| 03:57.00 | kd3 | I'll let you know in ~45 minutes or so |
| 03:57.00 | Fisker | you suck |
| 03:57.00 | Fisker | i hate you robotusch |
| 03:57.00 | robotusch | <3 |
| 03:57.05 | Fisker | but you know what kd3 ? |
| 03:57.09 | Pytlask | kd3: Are you trying it with WINE or Windows? |
| 03:57.10 | robotusch | come ingame, I need someone to make me a ZG raid |
| 03:57.15 | Fisker | 1.24/1.66GB |
| 03:57.17 | Fisker | oh wait :( |
| 03:57.22 | Fisker | ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 03:57.25 | Amarande | Fisker: don't we kill the Black Knight in TOC5, though? |
| 03:57.34 | kd3 | pyt; I'm using wget to hammer the http seeds |
| 03:57.38 | Amarande | and we provide his Proof of Demise as a daily on a regular basis, too |
| 03:57.51 | bleeter | damn GMs going nowhere near my Dailies Bugged WTF forum post |
| 03:57.55 | bleeter | time to file a ticket |
| 03:58.04 | Amarande | oh, speaking of bugs |
| 03:58.17 | robotusch | Fisker |
| 03:58.18 | bleeter | anyone else's realms got bugged dailies? |
| 03:58.26 | Jerub | Kraps: win7 is like $0 if you're in any kind of educational context. |
| 03:58.27 | Amarande | anyone ever get an issue in TOC5 where the first set of bosses (the ones right after joust) just *vanish* and you have to wait a minute or 2 for them to reappear before you can actually fight them? |
| 03:58.28 | bleeter | wondering if it's just caelestrasz, or it's battlegroup |
| 03:58.44 | robotusch | fiskers fisker |
| 03:58.49 | Fisker | no |
| 03:58.56 | Amarande | the first time our tank pulled the joust bosses (after the joust) |
| 03:58.59 | Fisker | and Amarande i believe it was an intended change for the terribads |
| 03:59.00 | bleeter | Amarande: nah got an issue in ToC with a fat arsed boss who takes up half the screen who we can't skin 'n stuff pissing me off |
| 03:59.08 | Amarande | I was dpsing away and next thing ... "I don't have a target!" |
| 03:59.12 | Fisker | that's trial of the crusader bleeter |
| 03:59.14 | Fisker | you failure troll |
| 03:59.21 | Amarande | and we had to stand there and wait and were thinking if we needed to get a GM |
| 03:59.24 | Amarande | then they popped up again |
| 03:59.26 | Jerub | all bosses should be skinnable. |
| 03:59.32 | Jerub | I want to wear the skin of the black knight. |
| 03:59.38 | Amarande | Jerub: especially paletress, because she is a friggin bitch. |
| 03:59.46 | Amarande | my first TOC5 I died on paletress. |
| 03:59.50 | Jerub | Amarande: A$%#@!^$#!^$!#^$#N paletress |
| 04:00.01 | Amarande | speaking of which: paletress is not nearly as hard as everyone thinks when they demand DPS for it. |
| 04:00.03 | Jerub | Amarande: your first and every one since? |
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| 04:00.11 | Amarande | I actually spent a good half or so of the battle DEAD and we didn't have an issue finishing her. |
| 04:00.35 | Amarande | Jerub: I've only been to H-TOC5 twice |
| 04:00.42 | Amarande | and we got Eadric the second time, so that's the only time I've fought Paletress yeah |
| 04:01.00 | Jerub | Amarande: it depends on how good the raid heals are. my druid can keep a tank alive through a meat grinder, but can't raid heal and tank heal paletress for long enough for 1.5k average dps to burn her |
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| 04:01.20 | Jerub | s/raid heal/heal raid/ |
| 04:01.24 | Amarande | as for how I died, I apparently got wonked with a holy smite (might have been crit, not sure) right before the feardot and didn't have enough hp left to survive it |
| 04:01.52 | Jerub | Amarande: yeah, gotta have hots going on the whole party during the (random) fears. |
| 04:02.02 | Amarande | I know I was in fear at the time, so eating my warlock pez was not an option |
| 04:02.07 | Fisker | So robotusch |
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| 04:02.15 | Fisker | going to Kastrup to KILL OBAMA? |
| 04:02.29 | robotusch | <- Holy Paladin, don't like Palatress |
| 04:02.33 | robotusch | Fusker ofc not |
| 04:02.38 | Amarande | watches the friendly guys in black come to drag Fisker off to das gaolhaus |
| 04:02.39 | Jerub | I've fought her many many times, usually as a healer, and the times we wipe have been when we've had impotent DPS, because the longer the fight is, the higher the chance of ill timed deaths. |
| 04:02.51 | Fisker | naw Amarande |
| 04:02.55 | Fisker | it's robotusch that's trying to :( |
| 04:03.07 | Fisker | His cover is that he likes planes |
| 04:03.13 | Fisker | as if |
| 04:03.24 | Jerub | but any party who can down paletress first go will never have any problems with black knight |
| 04:03.25 | robotusch | friend of mine suggested we take some black cardboard tubes out to a forrest area south of the airport :3 |
| 04:03.28 | Amarande | The only thing that I should have known apparently about TOC5 is that the graveyard run is stupidly short and I should have jumped back into the Paletress fight |
| 04:03.51 | Amarande | however, 1) I still don't know where the Argent Tournament graveyard is, since I've never actually had to release there |
| 04:03.54 | Fisker | I wonder if they'll finally ignore a bomb threat on a day like today |
| 04:04.04 | Amarande | and 2) the frikkin Argent Tournament grounds give me lag almost as bad as Dalaran :P |
| 04:04.19 | Amarande | No wonder I always had horrible lag trying to use a flying mount in Icecrown lately |
| 04:04.31 | Amarande | If I'm facing south, Dalaran's in view. If I'm facing North, the bloody Tournament's in view. |
| 04:04.32 | robotusch | Fisker has had to release there quite a few times when I was healing :> |
| 04:04.49 | Fisker | ;E |
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| 04:05.02 | Amarande | By 'horrible dalaran lag' in the Tournament mind you |
| 04:05.04 | robotusch | Like the good old days of MC and having Lesser Heal (Rank 1) hotkeyed for Fisker :3 |
| 04:05.06 | Amarande | tonight when I did heroic TOC5 |
| 04:05.15 | robotusch | "But I was downranking!" |
| 04:05.17 | Amarande | I missed half the joust because it took that long to drag myself across the tournament grounds to get in the instance |
| 04:05.44 | Jerub | I LOVE missing the joust. |
| 04:05.48 | Amarande | once I'm in the instance I'm fine, but outside is just PAIN |
| 04:05.59 | Amarande | though I've since downgraded my graphics and it's OK |
| 04:06.12 | Amarande | hopefully I don't die for titanium in the future again though :| |
| 04:06.15 | bleeter | Brewmaster Gonadds |
| 04:10.51 | bleeter | anyone else? dailies bugged on your realm? :P |
| 04:10.53 | Arrowmaster | no Salty title? |
| 04:11.08 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: dunno, opposite faction so all I could do was /love and /lick |
| 04:11.18 | Fisker | kd3 status report |
| 04:11.41 | kd3 | 1.23/1.39 |
| 04:12.00 | kd3 | an email will be going out roughly 30 seconds after I get patched |
| 04:12.59 | Fisker | that's your claim |
| 04:13.13 | bleeter | WobWork: so I get in to c'link, they're telling me 'you could do this online' I'm all 'great, how' 'do you have your birth cert on you for ID'.. I say 'again? I handed that last week'... 'yeah so you did, any other ID'... 'you've got my birth cert, my driv lic, my bank details, medicare, superannuation.. wtf could you POSSIBLY want' |
| 04:13.26 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:13.39 | Amarande | you know, I just realized something potentially of significant impact regarding CSLFG once Cata hits |
| 04:13.41 | bleeter | WobWork: she says 'letter from us about your successful claim'.. 'YOU MEAN THE LETTER THAT HASN'T ARRIVED YET WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE??' /fail |
| 04:13.43 | Amarande | which may actually be a problem |
| 04:14.07 | Amarande | as we know, there's going to be a Heroic Deadmines at 85 |
| 04:14.22 | Amarande | problem: with CSLFG, one of the concerns is that people will have to make the walk to the instance alone |
| 04:14.36 | WobWork | bleeter: sounds esp fail |
| 04:14.45 | Amarande | for Horde on PvP servers it looks like this may actually be a serious issue, if they have to go that deep into Alliance territory regularly to do a heroic |
| 04:15.18 | WobWork | CS LFG? |
| 04:15.26 | WobWork | oh an addon? |
| 04:15.26 | Amarande | and then, because people will come to depend on cross-server people for pugs, it basically will mean Horde will be weaker across the board for having in the long term less gear and badges from VC compared to Alliance |
| 04:15.32 | WobWork | oh cross server |
| 04:15.34 | Amarande | Wob: 3.3.0 is introducing cross-server LFG |
| 04:15.42 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, you're really getting ahead on the whining-about-shit-that-doesn't-matter |
| 04:15.51 | WobWork | Amarande's saving up =P |
| 04:15.58 | Amarande | Night: remember, Horde need more gear for the same content, not less, at least when beginning to raid :) |
| 04:16.08 | WobWork | ps, easy to get to Deadmines |
| 04:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | no, they dont |
| 04:16.11 | WobWork | run up from STV |
| 04:16.17 | WobWork | around the ocean |
| 04:16.21 | WobWork | and you're there |
| 04:16.32 | Amarande | Night: Horde has to stack an extra 1% into hit rating that they could be using for DPS or tank stamina because they don't have Draenei |
| 04:16.34 | WobWork | and at 80, you have no concerns about adds |
| 04:16.39 | ajmitch | I know! You might even be able to fly there at 85 |
| 04:16.56 | Amarande | ajmitch: yeah, the issue will probably be getting through the pre-instance maze without getting ganked |
| 04:17.02 | WobWork | I ran up there to get cookie's tenderiser for my chef outfit |
| 04:17.18 | bleeter | ajmitch: fly? azeroth?? INCONCEIVABLE!!! |
| 04:17.22 | Amarande | right now, this isn't so much an issue because your whole group presumably walks together |
| 04:17.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: wow, you'll whine and bitch about fucking anything wont you |
| 04:17.34 | Amarande | but with CSLFG, like I said people will have to make their trips alone, which is an issue on PvP servers |
| 04:17.36 | WobWork | just get summoned from inside =P |
| 04:17.39 | ajmitch | bleeter: you're right, it'll never happen, might as well QQ about it all now |
| 04:17.41 | Amarande | (thankfully I play on a PvE, but still) |
| 04:17.50 | WobWork | They should just shift the summoning stones inside the instance |
| 04:18.03 | bleeter | nah |
| 04:18.03 | WobWork | or have both in and out |
| 04:18.05 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 04:18.05 | Amarande | also, if 3.3.0 hits before Halloween - what about Alliance on pvp servers trying to do HH? |
| 04:18.08 | bleeter | no more gankfest at instance door |
| 04:18.14 | bleeter | that's half the fun of PvP |
| 04:18.19 | bleeter | owning instance entrances |
| 04:18.23 | Fisker | do you know if chrome has something like being able to alter the source of a site on the fly? |
| 04:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: no one really cares |
| 04:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | shrugs |
| 04:18.40 | Amarande | Night: if I was selfishly whining, I wouldn't care about Alliance, nor about folks on PvP servers :) |
| 04:18.44 | Adys | Fisker: ctrl shift j |
| 04:18.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: you mean like the last two years? NO ONE CARES BECAUSE IT DOESNT MATTER |
| 04:18.55 | bleeter | Amarande: you play PvE so... yes you are needlessly whining |
| 04:19.02 | Adys | htmlwise its not as good as firebug though |
| 04:19.05 | Adys | been trying to improve it |
| 04:19.46 | Amarande | bleeter: ok, I'll whine later when I wipe in pug heroics at 85 because the tank didn't have gear they needed from heroic deadmines because they come from a pvp server and couldn't get there without being ganked :) |
| 04:20.09 | ajmitch | and you'll get soundly mocked then as well |
| 04:20.09 | NightHawkTheSane | you whine about that anyway |
| 04:20.31 | WobWork | Amarande: then don't get a tank from a pvp server |
| 04:20.35 | WobWork | Solution! |
| 04:20.44 | bleeter | WobWork: god, no, it can't be that easy |
| 04:20.45 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: better solution, don't pug. :P |
| 04:20.53 | bleeter | shit |
| 04:20.54 | WobWork | *Tank joins* "Are you from a pvp server?" "Yes" *boot* |
| 04:20.57 | bleeter | it can be even easier |
| 04:20.59 | ajmitch | or get a tank who's not afraid of a little pvp action |
| 04:21.04 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: quit playing? |
| 04:21.13 | WobWork | roll a tank =P |
| 04:21.14 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: not before giving me all yer stuffs!! |
| 04:21.18 | Amarande | heh, actually tanks might be able to stack resil in Cata anyway |
| 04:21.26 | Amarande | I mean, they can't stack attack power because it's gone |
| 04:21.32 | Amarande | they can't stack defense rating because it's gone |
| 04:21.39 | WobWork | Amarande: there'll be something else to stack |
| 04:21.40 | WobWork | never fear |
| 04:21.42 | Amarande | what is there left to stack but things like stamina and resil that benefit heavily in pvp? :) |
| 04:21.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ajmitch: or, perhaps maybe realize that deadmines wont be the be-all-end-all of gearing at level 85, and even if you ARE mentally retarded and have trouble getting there, you'll still get gear elsewhere? |
| 04:21.48 | WobWork | perhaps NEW STUFF |
| 04:21.55 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:21.58 | ajmitch | NightHawkTheSane: need another crutch then |
| 04:22.00 | bleeter | yeah I suspect heroic DM and SFK will be like heroic Ony |
| 04:22.02 | Shirik | we have someone whom, every time she zones into ToC |
| 04:22.04 | Shirik | she DCs |
| 04:22.05 | bleeter | no point except some fun |
| 04:22.07 | Shirik | the entire night |
| 04:22.12 | Shirik | only during entry of the instance |
| 04:22.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ajmitch: oh, i'm sure Amarande will find some other excuse for his own problems |
| 04:22.16 | Amarande | Shirik: ouch. |
| 04:22.17 | Shirik | once inside, she's fine |
| 04:22.17 | bleeter | Shirik: we've had that |
| 04:22.20 | Shirik | it's so wierd |
| 04:22.22 | Amarande | that reminds me of the time I was doing my Jenkins achievement |
| 04:22.23 | WobWork | summon her in? |
| 04:22.42 | Amarande | and when we summoned our GM back into LBRS (because back then you needed the key and he'd left his in bank) |
| 04:22.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: is it the zoning itself that d/cs her? |
| 04:22.49 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:22.49 | NightHawkTheSane | or just the entranceway? |
| 04:22.52 | Shirik | well |
| 04:22.54 | Amarande | his character got stuck in a limbo where it kept DCing until he had a GM help him out |
| 04:23.04 | kd3 | great. we've got daily raid quests now. |
| 04:23.08 | kd3 | http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9827/screenshot100109211142.jpg |
| 04:23.13 | Shirik | just the zoning I guess |
| 04:23.15 | bleeter | Shirik: disable addons? particularly inventory stuff |
| 04:23.18 | Shirik | she can see the entrance |
| 04:23.19 | kd3 | or wait... weekly, probably |
| 04:23.29 | Amarande | kd3: good thing. |
| 04:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: does it happen zoning anywhere else? |
| 04:23.43 | Amarande | right now, there's really not that much incentive besides achievements to run some of the current raids |
| 04:23.45 | Amarande | especially sarth and maly |
| 04:23.53 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: probably weekly, but thats vaguely neat. |
| 04:24.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Ne-vyn (i=lukian@203.123.90.21) |
| 04:24.37 | Amarande | I suppose there will be QQ from folks on weeks when VOA ends up daily when their faction never has WG at a reasonable hour, but that's QQ |
| 04:24.51 | NightHawkTheSane | also, castle is hilarious. Nathan Filion is awesome |
| 04:24.52 | Amarande | and I get WG plenty often on Turalyon Horde anyway :P |
| 04:24.58 | bleeter | kd3: do it, then relog. see if it's avail again like how dailies are currently bugged! ;) |
| 04:25.18 | kd3 | is still not done downloading yet... grr! |
| 04:25.19 | Amarande | bleeter: but can you kill sarth again ... er, yeah, wait, there's always 25's |
| 04:25.35 | robotusch | gah |
| 04:25.45 | robotusch | ofc I have to download everything for PTR from scratch |
| 04:25.46 | Amarande | also: there are indeed new badges, I notice |
| 04:25.51 | Amarande | those of you ptr'ing |
| 04:26.08 | Amarande | are there still conquest badges dropping, or are they bumping all the badges up to triumph and having the top end places drop frost now? |
| 04:26.21 | Jerub | frost badges? |
| 04:26.23 | bleeter | kd3: heh, I ain't even started d/l. still waiting on wirebrain |
| 04:26.30 | Amarande | Jerub: check the screenie kd3 posted |
| 04:26.43 | Amarande | the raid daily, at least, has emblems of frost as a reward |
| 04:26.45 | Fisker | owned kd3 |
| 04:26.46 | Fisker | i am |
| 04:27.01 | Amarande | I'm wondering if 3.3 will thus have three different kinds of badges "in play" |
| 04:27.19 | Amarande | or if we will move to just Triumph and Frost badges and Conquest will only be through trade-down like Heroism and Valor now |
| 04:27.25 | Jerub | kd3: can I throw that screenie on a guild forum? |
| 04:27.38 | kd3 | it's not mine |
| 04:27.40 | kd3 | by all means |
| 04:27.50 | Amarande | any of you do a heroic yet on the ptr? |
| 04:27.52 | kd3 | is just echoing neat stuff from the ptr forum while he's waiting for the download to finish |
| 04:28.25 | NightHawkTheSane | how long has it been up, like 12 hours or someshit? |
| 04:28.35 | kd3 | not even. 6 tops |
| 04:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | so, yeah, i'm going to guess very few people have done anything at all |
| 04:29.07 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 04:29.18 | kd3 | nearly done. a few dozen megs left |
| 04:29.41 | Fisker | http://i37.tinypic.com/10398q1.jpg |
| 04:29.45 | Fisker | who's your god now? |
| 04:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | you, Fisker |
| 04:29.57 | bleeter | wish some of the older currency got moved to currency tab |
| 04:29.59 | kd3 | the second law of thermodynamics? |
| 04:30.04 | Fisker | no me |
| 04:30.21 | Fisker | wish we had proper storage for the gear manager |
| 04:30.30 | Fisker | at the very least let us store shit in the bank |
| 04:31.23 | bleeter | i'd go do halaa (etc) for shits and giggles for the mount if it weren't for annoying bag space |
| 04:31.30 | bleeter | argent dawn stuff, too.. ugh |
| 04:31.50 | bleeter | tho i guess AD stuff will prolly go in cata.. hmmm |
| 04:32.17 | Amarande | I'm surprised they didn't put our brewfest tokens in the currency tab |
| 04:32.21 | NightHawkTheSane | one can only hope, bleeter |
| 04:32.39 | bleeter | Amarande: brewfest tokens are transient |
| 04:32.45 | NightHawkTheSane | (like your mom) |
| 04:33.01 | Jerub | I've been wearing the goggles. |
| 04:33.03 | Jerub | they're aewsome. |
| 04:33.09 | Jerub | nearly everyone is a female orc :D |
| 04:33.16 | Amarande | the goggles! they actually do something! |
| 04:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, thats hawt. :) |
| 04:33.31 | Fisker | makes fun of kd3 |
| 04:33.32 | Amarande | I'm still looking forward to 350 eng on my hunter and being able to see everyone naked LOL |
| 04:36.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:37.48 | kd3 | yay! patching |
| 04:37.56 | NightHawkTheSane | yay |
| 04:39.39 | Fisker | wtf |
| 04:40.40 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6f2a366cbf382e930d2ea242bd80790d.jpg |
| 04:41.27 | Fisker | omg |
| 04:41.37 | Fisker | the green thingy makes it smaller |
| 04:41.38 | Fisker | wee |
| 04:43.55 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 04:47.00 | Bruners | Fisker: what is that ? |
| 04:47.08 | Fisker | new world map |
| 04:47.53 | Bruners | Fisker: what is the silly thing on the bottom there? |
| 04:47.56 | robotusch | D:< |
| 04:48.06 | Fisker | quest thing |
| 04:48.26 | Fisker | if you have a quest highlighted it'll show quest and rewards |
| 04:48.37 | Bruners | crammed in a tiny space again |
| 04:48.40 | robotusch | Fisker, how the hell can you already be on PTR? :< |
| 04:48.55 | Bruners | he is Fisker |
| 04:49.02 | Fisker | btw |
| 04:49.04 | robotusch | He is Fusker |
| 04:49.10 | Bruners | also known as god in some languages |
| 04:49.18 | Fisker | BTW |
| 04:49.18 | robotusch | No, just Fusker |
| 04:49.21 | Fisker | BTW |
| 04:49.24 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 04:49.26 | Shirik | I have returned |
| 04:49.29 | Shirik | so you no longer exist |
| 04:49.36 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6e16517c381d6b5c48a8938f79038602.jpg <-isn't 30k like 10 times than usual? |
| 04:49.45 | robotusch | lol |
| 04:50.28 | Jerub | is that ui new? |
| 04:51.13 | Bruners | no its the old one from vanilla wow |
| 04:51.43 | Jerub | that looks really sexy. |
| 04:51.44 | kd3 | fuck |
| 04:51.48 | kd3 | ptr's busted on wine |
| 04:51.58 | Fisker | yes |
| 04:51.59 | Jerub | kd3: I had no success with wow+wine on my i945 |
| 04:52.05 | Fisker | gloats @ kd3 etc. |
| 04:52.10 | kd3 | that's because you have intel graphics |
| 04:52.18 | Bruners | this is why you should have mac's |
| 04:52.27 | Jerub | ... this is a lenovo |
| 04:54.35 | kd3 | emails away! |
| 04:54.48 | Amarande | heh is it really that easy? |
| 04:54.54 | Amarande | from a comment on the Greedy Goblin blog: |
| 04:54.55 | Amarande | "Basically, if you can play Whack-a-Mole at the local amusement park, you can heal." |
| 04:55.05 | Jerub | Amarande: IT'S TRUE! |
| 04:55.08 | Fisker | you are racist kd3 |
| 04:55.13 | Fisker | except against Fiskers |
| 04:55.16 | Amarande | Jerub: then why do so few people want to be healers? :) |
| 04:55.24 | Jerub | Amarande: because levelling a healer sucks. |
| 04:55.39 | Fisker | leveling a pala sucks more |
| 04:55.39 | Amarande | I mean, hey, I'd heal, but with my class, that would involve only healthstones and bandages, which apparently isn't enough LOL |
| 04:55.39 | Jerub | (and ffs, I love healing heroics) |
| 04:56.31 | Jerub | wonders what a druid only raid woudl be like. |
| 04:56.58 | Amarande | surprisingly effective, probably |
| 04:57.03 | Amarande | is there any role a druid *can't* do? |
| 04:57.24 | Jerub | Amarande: they can't cure disease or dispell magic, and their interrupts suck. |
| 04:57.24 | Bruners | it cant bubble+hs |
| 04:58.21 | Fisker | kd333333333333333333333 |
| 04:58.21 | Amarande | and there's some places you definitely don't want to go with all druids |
| 04:58.24 | Amarande | heroic OK comes to mind |
| 04:58.26 | Jerub | kitties can interrupt using combo points, and bears have a 3min CD, and trees can't interrupt |
| 04:59.07 | Jerub | i know nothing about oomkins |
| 04:59.08 | Amarande | heroic OK with all druids would need a new achievement |
| 04:59.14 | Amarande | "spend over an hour to defeat Volazj" |
| 05:02.08 | Amarande | people have trouble with volazj when there's just one druid in the party, heh |
| 05:02.36 | WobWork | You can heal like whack a mole |
| 05:02.56 | WobWork | but if you want to heal -well- you have to learn about proactive casting =P |
| 05:02.58 | Fisker | you've sealed your fate kd3 |
| 05:03.05 | WobWork | so it's more like whack-a-mole-to-be |
| 05:03.56 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 05:04.00 | ScytheBlade1 | My monitor -just- went out |
| 05:04.11 | WobWork | so you can't read this? |
| 05:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | On my desktop |
| 05:04.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Not my laptop |
| 05:04.27 | ScytheBlade1 | looks like the backlight :/ |
| 05:04.36 | WobWork | deletes the comment he was about to make about ScytheBlade1's mother |
| 05:05.42 | Shirik | It's all right to be little bitty |
| 05:05.57 | Shirik | Little home town in a big old city |
| 05:06.02 | Bruners | :) |
| 05:06.36 | Fisker | screw this Shirik |
| 05:06.53 | Fisker | can't see IC instances because of phasing |
| 05:06.59 | robotusch | :( |
| 05:07.01 | Bruners | dont you like alan Fisker ? |
| 05:07.03 | robotusch | then halp me |
| 05:07.07 | Fisker | no! |
| 05:07.14 | Fisker | because kd3 is a fiskcist |
| 05:07.19 | Sixen | kd3, I say we bring back our old PTR stickies. |
| 05:07.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: the backlight on your MOM just went out. |
| 05:07.25 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: something like that? |
| 05:07.28 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: lol |
| 05:07.34 | kd3 | lol |
| 05:07.37 | kd3 | and wow...finally: |
| 05:07.44 | kd3 | --- For debugging, remove for final commit |
| 05:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:08.33 | Fisker | stop being so fiskcist kd3 |
| 05:09.46 | kd3 | ! finally, a /yw emote |
| 05:09.57 | Amarande | fisker: wait, you need a certain quest progression in Icecrown in order to do the IC instances?? |
| 05:09.59 | Duman | haha |
| 05:10.11 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
| 05:10.16 | Adys | new quests are up |
| 05:10.23 | Amarande | Fisker: that's going to be ... fun |
| 05:10.29 | kd3 | Amarande, it's bugged. certain phases can see the instance lines others can't. it's not intentional |
| 05:10.34 | Adys | note the "daily" raid quests |
| 05:10.41 | kd3 | you must remember: this is the very first ptr build. a lot of things are broken |
| 05:10.43 | Adys | Sartharion Must Die! (#24579) |
| 05:10.43 | Adys | Anub'Rekhan Must Die! (#24580) |
| 05:10.45 | Adys | etc |
| 05:10.51 | Amarande | what's currently "fun" about icecrown questing, of course |
| 05:11.11 | Amarande | is that there's tons of G5 quests and you probably have to find people who haven't done them because I'm sure half of them phase out the bosses afterwards |
| 05:11.15 | Amarande | although, you know what comes to mind |
| 05:11.18 | Sixen | hai duman |
| 05:11.18 | Sixen | =] |
| 05:11.26 | Amarande | get yourself a healer who's phased past the bosses you need to kill for the group quest |
| 05:11.31 | Amarande | and your quest is a cinch :P |
| 05:12.00 | Amarande | or does that cause mobs to evade at the point when the healer would have pulled aggro? |
| 05:12.05 | Fisker | it wouldn't be broken if you would send me the changes kd3 :( |
| 05:12.13 | kd3 | msg me an email address |
| 05:12.35 | Amarande | how *does* Blizzard deal with the phased-healer exploit, if they even do? |
| 05:12.47 | Fisker | i want you to use telepathy kd3 |
| 05:12.48 | ScytheBlade1 | phased healer? |
| 05:13.06 | Amarande | Scythe: the trick of, for places where a mob phases out for people past a certain quest progression |
| 05:13.09 | Amarande | icecrown comes to mind |
| 05:13.29 | Amarande | 2-manning something cinchily by having the second person be a healer whose phasing progression does not allow them to interact with the mob concerned |
| 05:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | and how is that exploitable? |
| 05:13.43 | Amarande | Scythe: healer can never be hurt because the mob cannot interact with them |
| 05:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, they shouldn't be able to interact with the other people at all |
| 05:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | they shouldn't be able to heal either |
| 05:14.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Doow (n=Miranda@unaffiliated/doow) |
| 05:14.12 | Amarande | yeah, I'm not sure how icecrown phasing works in that light |
| 05:14.16 | Amarande | or even undercity phasing for that matter |
| 05:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | It is quite simple |
| 05:14.27 | kd3 | even in the same party if you're in different phases you can't interact with other people |
| 05:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | If you are not in the phasing boundry |
| 05:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | You cannot see them |
| 05:14.35 | Amarande | like, do healers stop being able to see UC raidmates when they engage Varimathras if they've already finished Wrath Gate? |
| 05:14.38 | ScytheBlade1 | You cannot interact with them |
| 05:15.01 | Amarande | yeah, I'd expect full-zone/subzone phasing to work that way |
| 05:15.09 | Amarande | how about cases where individual mobs are phased out after a quest? |
| 05:15.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it does work that way |
| 05:15.15 | ScytheBlade1 | They aren't |
| 05:15.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It is on a zone basis |
| 05:15.23 | NightHawkTheSane | (subzone..) |
| 05:15.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:15.29 | Amarande | like, when you raid undercity as alliance |
| 05:15.39 | Amarande | do you have to have the entire raid either have or have not completed the wrath gate chain or they get split as soon as they enter? |
| 05:15.50 | ScytheBlade1 | invisibly split |
| 05:15.53 | ScytheBlade1 | quite simply |
| 05:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | If you are not in the same phase session as someone else |
| 05:16.07 | Amarande | heh. sounds like a case where horde actually does have an inherent advantage then :) |
| 05:16.09 | ScytheBlade1 | You cannot see or interact with them, period |
| 05:16.27 | Amarande | when we go for our war bear, we don't have to worry about what quests our raid members have done :D |
| 05:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence, there is no "exploit" |
| 05:16.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-174-098-002-214.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 05:16.48 | Amarande | when alliance goes for their war bear ... they'd better have everyone link ach |
| 05:17.16 | kd3 | +COMBATLOG_ARENAPOINTSAWARD = "You have been awarded %d arena points."; |
| 05:17.53 | kd3 | +ERR_QUEST_PUSH_DIFFERENT_SERVER_DAILY_S = "%s is not eligible for that quest today"; |
| 05:17.57 | kd3 | was wondering how that was going to work |
| 05:18.18 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
| 05:19.17 | Fisker | it's already there kd3 |
| 05:19.18 | kd3 | +LFG_TYPE_RANDOM_DUNGEON = "Random Dungeon"; |
| 05:19.20 | kd3 | yay |
| 05:19.25 | Fisker | that's why you can't share them in dungeons anymore |
| 05:19.43 | Fisker | unless it takes lockouts into consideration then fu |
| 05:19.44 | Fisker | also |
| 05:19.48 | Fisker | any dungeon > * |
| 05:20.09 | kd3 | +PARTY_LFG_BOOT_IN_PROGRESS = "Another boot vote is already in progress."; |
| 05:20.18 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 05:20.37 | Fisker | that's gonna suck |
| 05:20.37 | kd3 | +POWER_TYPE_OOZE = "Ooze"; |
| 05:20.38 | kd3 | ? |
| 05:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds awesome |
| 05:20.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Lukian (i=lukian@203.123.90.21) |
| 05:20.48 | kd3 | +SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_78 = "Your soul belongs to the Lich King"; |
| 05:20.53 | amro | sounds disgusting |
| 05:20.55 | Fisker | for a boss fight probably |
| 05:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Also sounds awesome |
| 05:21.00 | Fisker | there's some spells about transformation |
| 05:21.03 | kd3 | +SPELL_FAILED_TARGET_CANNOT_BE_RESURRECTED = "Target cannot be resurrected"; |
| 05:22.39 | tem | Amarande, you can't interract with people in a different phase |
| 05:22.56 | tem | you can't even see them |
| 05:23.18 | Fisker | that's phasism tem |
| 05:23.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Sargeras (n=Sargeras@75.80.16.10) |
| 05:23.46 | kd3 | ! |
| 05:23.50 | kd3 | +self:RegisterEvent("COMPANION_UNLEARNED"); |
| 05:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | oh that is kinda hot |
| 05:24.35 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 05:25.13 | Amarande | oh, *that's* gonna be fun, tem :| |
| 05:25.23 | Amarande | guess I can forget about deathchill and wisp cloaks on my priest heh |
| 05:25.36 | Fisker | +INBOX_TOO_MUCH_MAIL_TOOLTIP = "Not all of your mail can be displayed.|nPlease delete some mail to make room."; |
| 05:25.38 | Fisker | lol |
| 05:25.38 | Fisker | s |
| 05:25.39 | kd3 | it looks like the entire quest ui's getting rewritten |
| 05:25.43 | Amarande | at least, till cata when level 85's might be able to solo stuff. |
| 05:27.09 | NightHawkTheSane | companion_unlearned? o_0 |
| 05:27.18 | Amarande | Night: yeah, that gave me an o.0 moment too |
| 05:27.33 | Amarande | wonder if it means there might be a cap on companions you can know at once |
| 05:27.43 | Arrowmaster | impossible |
| 05:27.44 | NightHawkTheSane | unlikely |
| 05:27.53 | Arrowmaster | since theres no way to relearn them |
| 05:28.05 | Amarande | yeah, the pet enthusiasts are probably chomping at the bit for 150 companions achievement by cata anyway :) |
| 05:28.06 | Fisker | might just be something like the bop timer |
| 05:28.12 | Arrowmaster | proabably something to do with temp ones |
| 05:28.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 05:28.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I have bets that the UNLEARNED event will give you an item back. |
| 05:28.21 | NightHawkTheSane | probably quest/instance related |
| 05:28.35 | Amarande | and what's this "boot vote" thing? |
| 05:28.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Or it is simply temporary stuff |
| 05:28.44 | ScytheBlade1 | No one knows yet |
| 05:29.11 | Arrowmaster | probably the long awaited ability to vote people out of the group and instance |
| 05:29.17 | Fisker | it's so i can kick players i can replace with a guildie before completing the last boss in an instance so he can get the daily heroic instead |
| 05:29.20 | Arrowmaster | that people have asked for since classic |
| 05:29.38 | Amarande | fisker: that sounds exactly like the kind of reason blizzard hasn't implemented it yet :) |
| 05:29.40 | Amarande | it seems too abusable |
| 05:29.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: no, you roll a tank, and make sure to ask for lead so you can do that |
| 05:29.49 | Amarande | or (as has already happened with leader kicks, anyway) |
| 05:29.59 | Amarande | abuses like I've heard have happened during brewfest |
| 05:30.05 | Fisker | well with leader kicks you could atleast stay |
| 05:30.07 | Amarande | where there will be four guildies and one pug at coren |
| 05:30.22 | Amarande | guildies make the pug summon first, then they kick him out so that they can bring in another guildie and four of them get six summons |
| 05:30.38 | Fisker | you're not looking at the big picture Amarande |
| 05:30.46 | Amarande | there's apparently at least one guild who's now got a rep on the forums for that. :| |
| 05:30.52 | Fisker | There were people doing that last hallow's end |
| 05:31.05 | Amarande | fisker: what's the big picture? |
| 05:31.09 | Fisker | They spent an entire day summoning people in, letting them summon, kicking them again, etc. |
| 05:31.09 | Arrowmaster | we did that last brewfest but we werent dicks |
| 05:31.22 | Arrowmaster | we invited lvl 65-69s to summon |
| 05:31.59 | Amarande | the only thing I can think of is that kicking people from the instance entirely might help with something specific |
| 05:31.59 | Amarande | but |
| 05:32.09 | Amarande | hasn't that something specific been fixed since it was a big issue in BC? |
| 05:32.11 | Arrowmaster | yes anything with a lock |
| 05:32.33 | Fisker | well maybe since it's limited how many times you can boot |
| 05:32.40 | Fisker | They'll let you get another ID |
| 05:32.40 | Arrowmaster | you dont get booted from the instance if you are locked to it |
| 05:32.43 | Arrowmaster | if you leave group |
| 05:32.54 | Amarande | I was thinking of the constant issues people had in BC heroic quests with the six-person glitch |
| 05:32.57 | Amarande | basically, person would DC |
| 05:33.02 | Amarande | so they'd remove them from group, and get a replacement |
| 05:33.15 | Amarande | and then not get quest credit/item at the end of the instance because the game saw six people in the instance and said no way jose |
| 05:33.24 | Amarande | even though one person wasn't even connected |
| 05:33.32 | Arrowmaster | ive never heard of that |
| 05:33.38 | Fisker | it was intended |
| 05:33.43 | Amarande | Arrow: it was apparently a big problem with BC, actually |
| 05:33.46 | Fisker | Back with Trial of the naaru and all that |
| 05:33.53 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 05:33.56 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, xkcd is amusing |
| 05:34.03 | bleeter | no u |
| 05:34.09 | Fisker | To stop people getting a good group to the end, and then replacing everyone who needed the quest |
| 05:34.20 | Amarande | if people DC'd, or if they left early and logged out in the instance instead of zoning out first, the instance would do that |
| 05:34.27 | Fisker | So if more than 5 people had used that instance it wouldn't complete the quest |
| 05:34.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah the arcatraz heroic was extremely exploitable at first |
| 05:34.35 | bleeter | wish we could replace cide, he causes all problems |
| 05:34.37 | Amarande | and since BC heroics actually were long and difficult affairs, people often did have to leave mid instance |
| 05:34.37 | Arrowmaster | stupidly exploitable |
| 05:34.54 | Amarande | you never see this in WotLK because WotLK heroics take a half hour or so. :) |
| 05:35.09 | Amarande | unless you suck, and we don't cater to people who suck. :) |
| 05:35.15 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20126978907&pageNo=1&sid=1#12 <-he's gonna get hammered |
| 05:35.17 | ScytheBlade1 | They were only long and difficult affairs if you were terrible |
| 05:35.22 | Fisker | or should i say she's? |
| 05:35.23 | Fisker | lolol |
| 05:35.38 | Amarande | Scythe: or if your group's DPS didn't include the right kind of CC, etc. |
| 05:35.49 | Amarande | that's one thing that's way better with wotlk |
| 05:35.52 | ScytheBlade1 | point still stands, suck less |
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| 05:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I did heroic blood furnace in greens without a warlock for banish, kiting mobs nearly to the entrance to make it work |
| 05:36.10 | NightHawkTheSane | cc was mostly overrated with enough application of skill |
| 05:36.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:36.15 | Amarande | the BC heroics were hard enough that you couldn't just ask for DPS, you had to ask for specific class DPS for many of them so you had the CC for the instance trash |
| 05:36.33 | Arrowmaster | i remember practically soloing heroic blood furnace |
| 05:36.36 | Amarande | Scythe: were you dps, healer, or tank? |
| 05:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i tanked heroic shattered halls and shadow labs as a warrior, without any real cc. |
| 05:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | "Be creative" |
| 05:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | fun as hell |
| 05:36.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: healer or DPS |
| 05:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It varied |
| 05:36.50 | Arrowmaster | then they had to go and make the demons not enslavable |
| 05:36.50 | Amarande | if you're healer, I believe you. :) |
| 05:36.55 | Amarande | because healer is easysauce |
| 05:36.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 05:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 05:37.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Those mobs one-shot anyone but a plate wearing tank |
| 05:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | The felguard packs at the very bottom |
| 05:37.22 | Amarande | oh, those SOBs |
| 05:37.25 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember them |
| 05:37.28 | Amarande | it's been forever since I did BF |
| 05:37.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Did it without a warlock! |
| 05:37.37 | ScytheBlade1 | No banish! CC immune! |
| 05:37.52 | ScytheBlade1 | "suck less" or "be more creative" |
| 05:37.54 | Shirik | I wonder |
| 05:37.57 | ScytheBlade1 | blues! |
| 05:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | not epics! |
| 05:38.01 | Amarande | arrow: apparently, BC was warlock abuse playground |
| 05:38.03 | Shirik | if it's possible to use mod_proxy's ProxyPassRever and not ProxyPass |
| 05:38.05 | Amarande | with all the enslavable demons |
| 05:38.07 | Shirik | Reverse* |
| 05:38.07 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: it was |
| 05:38.09 | Amarande | dot-kiting raid bosses |
| 05:38.09 | Amarande | etc |
| 05:38.14 | Arrowmaster | umm no |
| 05:38.22 | Arrowmaster | that never happened |
| 05:38.31 | Amarande | Arrow: there was at least one raid boss that had to be fixed because locks were dot kiting if I remember |
| 05:38.34 | Amarande | it was in SSC I think |
| 05:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It happened on a single buggy boss |
| 05:38.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:38.38 | ScytheBlade1 | -single- |
| 05:38.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Which was fixed |
| 05:38.49 | Arrowmaster | it was a video from a private server |
| 05:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Saying that BC was "warlock abuse playground" over a single bug is a bit much |
| 05:39.03 | Amarande | well |
| 05:39.05 | ScytheBlade1 | er, that is news |
| 05:39.13 | Amarande | there was a literal plethora of OP enslavable demons at least |
| 05:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd like proof, but I can accept it just the same |
| 05:39.32 | Arrowmaster | but they did go through and make every single enslavable demon not enslavable in heroics after a few patches |
| 05:40.18 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: yeah i pet tanked most of heroic mech while the rest of the group just watched and bitched |
| 05:40.19 | robotusch | xD |
| 05:40.32 | robotusch | Amarande, Hydros? |
| 05:40.44 | robotusch | or wth that water elemental guy was called |
| 05:40.49 | Arrowmaster | robotusch: that was a private server afaik, doesnt count |
| 05:40.53 | robotusch | :( |
| 05:41.03 | Arrowmaster | he never spawned adds in that video |
| 05:41.11 | robotusch | good point, come to think of it |
| 05:41.22 | Arrowmaster | they spawn instantly when you engage |
| 05:41.31 | robotusch | All I remember is I was wondering how he kept doing damage with full red gear :/ |
| 05:41.37 | Fisker | you could enslave brutallus |
| 05:41.40 | Fisker | the outside one |
| 05:41.49 | Arrowmaster | engineers could controll the curator |
| 05:41.55 | Arrowmaster | that was fucking awesome |
| 05:42.04 | ScytheBlade1 | wasn't that hotfixed? |
| 05:42.08 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 05:42.25 | Arrowmaster | it didnt last long at all |
| 05:43.31 | Fisker | but you know what's awesome? |
| 05:43.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen1 (n=Sixen@173.25.22.158) |
| 05:43.37 | Fisker | The brewfest exploiters got banned ;3 |
| 05:43.40 | Arrowmaster | brutallus was only enslavable on the PTR and they 'live hotfixed' it by not allowing him to untap so enslave wasnt usable anymore |
| 05:43.43 | Fisker | but only 72 hours :( |
| 05:43.43 | robotusch | :? |
| 05:43.46 | robotusch | :( |
| 05:43.51 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: this year or last year? |
| 05:43.56 | Fisker | this year |
| 05:43.57 | robotusch | Sure you can live without wow for 72 hours? :3 |
| 05:44.04 | Arrowmaster | what was the exploit this year? |
| 05:44.12 | Fisker | You could keep spawning him |
| 05:44.21 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 05:44.23 | Arrowmaster | some bug? |
| 05:44.46 | Fisker | yeah |
| 05:44.59 | Adys | if you were 25/25 dailies when summoning |
| 05:45.18 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:46.30 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 05:46.31 | Shirik | mr. genius |
| 05:46.35 | Shirik | RewriteRule ^/(forums/admin/.*)$ https://%{HTTP_HOST}/$1 [R,L] |
| 05:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | not touching that |
| 05:46.49 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:46.53 | Shirik | Why does this not cause a redirect from http://foo.com/forums/admin/index.php to https://foo.com/forums/admin/index.php? |
| 05:46.55 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:46.57 | Shirik | why not :( |
| 05:47.00 | Cairenn | snuggles the Sargeras! |
| 05:47.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Use an HTTP redirect header |
| 05:47.12 | Shirik | long story short |
| 05:47.13 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:47.17 | Shirik | I can't |
| 05:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | sucker |
| 05:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | fix your crap |
| 05:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 05:47.26 | Shirik | It's a bug in software |
| 05:47.29 | Shirik | I can't change it |
| 05:47.37 | Shirik | They REQUIRE my configuration to have http or https |
| 05:47.38 | Shirik | and I want both |
| 05:47.42 | ScytheBlade1 | hex editor for you! |
| 05:47.45 | Shirik | no.. |
| 05:47.49 | Fisker | you mean hax editor |
| 05:48.17 | Fisker | it's cold |
| 05:48.37 | Shirik | you're cold |
| 05:48.50 | Shirik | Internal Server Error |
| 05:48.51 | Shirik | The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. |
| 05:48.51 | Shirik | woot |
| 05:48.53 | Shirik | I fixed it |
| 05:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate regex |
| 05:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I also hate this monitor which I am currently trying to disassemble |
| 05:49.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate that things i order don't show up instantly at my doorstep. :( |
| 05:50.14 | Fisker | i hate that things i want to order doesn't show up in stock immediately |
| 05:50.34 | NightHawkTheSane | that too |
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| 05:52.23 | WobWork | shirik drop the ^? |
| 05:52.37 | Fisker | [07:48:48] <@Shirik> I fixed it |
| 05:52.40 | Fisker | l2p |
| 05:52.50 | Shirik | actually, something really bad just happened |
| 05:52.50 | WobWork | scrolling up is for noobs |
| 05:53.02 | Shirik | Was there a security vulnerability released in apache recently? |
| 05:53.09 | Fisker | <10 line buffers are for n00bs WobWork |
| 05:53.09 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 05:53.17 | Shirik | [Fri Oct 02 01:47:15 2009] [error] [client 91.203.67.74] File does not exist: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/forums/index.php+++++++++++++++++++Result:+\xe8\xf1\xef\xee\xeb\xfc\xe7\xee\xe2\xe0\xed+\xed\xe8\xea\xed\xe5\xe9\xec+"gigophaboonge";\xe7\xe0\xf0\xe5\xe3\xe8\xf1\xf2\xf0\xe8\xf0\xee\xe2\xe0\xeb\xe8\xf1\xfc+(\xe2\xea\xeb\xfe\xf7\xe5\xed+\xf0\xe5\xe6\xe8\xec+\xf2\xee\xeb\xfc\xea\xee+\xf0\xe5\xe3\xe8\xf1\xf2\xf0\xe |
| 05:53.26 | WobWork | tasty overflow |
| 05:53.28 | Shirik | that looks like shellcode to me |
| 05:53.39 | WobWork | gigophaboonge is a great word |
| 05:53.40 | Fisker | I wish |
| 05:53.44 | Fisker | it's a message from batman |
| 05:54.18 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE a message from batman |
| 05:55.30 | WobWork | squints at Fisker. "The.... riddler... has.... escaped... arkham....am...stuck....in...shaggy...dog joke...send... help" |
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| 05:58.10 | Shirik | gigophaboonge is indeed a great word |
| 05:58.15 | Shirik | I may have to change all my passwords to that |
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| 05:59.17 | bleeter | searches well in google |
| 06:02.29 | Fisker | i hope you die bleeter |
| 06:04.07 | Kraps | http://www.hulu.com/watch/67437/saturday-night-live-high-school-musical-4#s-p4-st-i1 |
| 06:05.37 | kd3 | whee |
| 06:05.50 | kd3 | looks like linking against msvcrt 8 is what's up |
| 06:05.55 | kd3 | sighs |
| 06:06.13 | Fisker | why so sigh? |
| 06:06.27 | kd3 | the ptr's just sitting there... waiting on me to log in |
| 06:06.38 | kd3 | but I can't |
| 06:09.43 | kd3 | but I think I've found the problem, but time for sleep since I must get up for work at oh-dark-hundred again |
| 06:09.50 | kd3 | but how many times can I start sentences with 'but'? |
| 06:11.54 | Fisker | but the ship can't sink |
| 06:12.00 | Arrowmaster | but youve got a nice pattern going |
| 06:13.43 | Fisker | OBAMA IS HEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEE |
| 06:15.14 | Arrowmaster | so last months final stats 281.79 GB down / 94.95 GB up, i am the isp profit margin destroyer when i finally have free harddrive space |
| 06:15.37 | Fisker | they just have to ban you |
| 06:16.17 | Shirik | ok ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:16.20 | Shirik | I found a reasonable solution |
| 06:16.23 | Shirik | rewrite EVERYTHING |
| 06:16.33 | Shirik | RewriteRule ^(.*)$ https://%{HTTP_HOST}/forums/admin/$1 [R,L] |
| 06:16.36 | Shirik | Just stick in .htaccess |
| 06:16.55 | Shirik | Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to send on the POST data :( |
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| 06:25.47 | Fisker | i'm tired Shirik |
| 06:25.55 | Shirik | Take a chill pill |
| 06:26.05 | Shirik | yo yo |
| 06:26.06 | Shirik | yo |
| 06:26.09 | Shirik | chill out dawg |
| 06:26.16 | Shirik | soup |
| 06:26.25 | Shirik | word. |
| 06:27.40 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:27.43 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, didn't you say soul calibur 4 is out? |
| 06:27.51 | Shirik | for xbox 360 |
| 06:27.55 | Shirik | I couldn't find it anywhere |
| 06:28.01 | Arrowmaster | i did? |
| 06:28.10 | Shirik | I think so |
| 06:28.11 | Arrowmaster | i dont think i did |
| 06:28.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont know anything about soul calibur 4 |
| 06:28.37 | Shirik | according to wikipedia it was released a year and a half ago |
| 06:28.40 | Shirik | and I can't find it anywhere :< |
| 06:29.02 | Arrowmaster | and i cant find star ocean |
| 06:29.02 | Shirik | I guess I have to amazonify it |
| 06:29.05 | Shirik | really? |
| 06:29.08 | Shirik | I see it everywhere |
| 06:29.18 | Arrowmaster | its not even listed on bestbuy.com |
| 06:29.21 | Shirik | then again I guess there's more supply than demand here |
| 06:29.23 | Shirik | are you sure? |
| 06:29.31 | Fisker | console rpgs are shit |
| 06:29.46 | Arrowmaster | i searched for 'star ocean' and it didnt come up |
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| 06:32.30 | Shirik | looks like you're right Arrowmaster |
| 06:32.35 | Shirik | google takes me to a page that no longer exists |
| 06:32.38 | Shirik | maybe they stopped selling it |
| 06:32.43 | Shirik | but it's still in the stores around here |
| 06:32.59 | Shirik | http://www.amazon.com/Star-Ocean-Last-Hope-Xbox-360/dp/B001LGFPSY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1254465171&sr=8-1 |
| 06:33.19 | Shirik | lol $30: http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Calibur-IV-Xbox-360/dp/B000ZKDOVW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1254465184&sr=1-2 |
| 06:38.17 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, what game do I pick up next? |
| 06:38.51 | Fisker | me |
| 06:38.53 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
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| 06:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | yup, backlight is totally dead |
| 06:40.25 | ScytheBlade1 | awesome. |
| 06:40.55 | Fisker | Fable! |
| 06:41.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: suck |
| 06:42.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It was a good monitor too :/ |
| 06:42.54 | Jerub | rip it open and replace the backlight with a sunlamp |
| 06:46.23 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: My list currently is "Tales of Vesperia" "ODST" "Mass Effect" "Bioshock" "Gears of War" "Soul Calibur 4" |
| 06:46.30 | Shirik | any recommendations on what to get first? |
| 06:46.37 | Jerub | have any of those google wave invites i sent this morning arrived? |
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| 06:51.07 | Shirik | I think I'm going to pick up Soul Calibur first |
| 06:51.15 | Shirik | I have FPS, I have RPG, I have no arcade fighting style game |
| 06:51.23 | Shirik | what after that though is the question |
| 06:52.06 | [Ammo] | Fisker: I was in the dev preview, and invites are all gone to collegues :p |
| 06:52.28 | Shirik | I like how the Xbox tells you not to remove the hard drive while it's downloading content |
| 06:52.28 | [Ammo] | hence I am unable to give your troll ass some loving |
| 06:52.28 | Shirik | is that supposed to be a serious warning? |
| 06:52.36 | Fisker | oh you can still give it some lovin |
| 06:53.29 | Shirik | Fisker I gots your lovin |
| 06:54.56 | Jerub | I invited a whole bunch of people here this morning (my time) so hopefully there will be mre invites running around tomorrow) |
| 06:56.50 | Amarande | LOL ... |
| 06:56.51 | Amarande | http://forthebubbles.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/boo-vs-northrend-beasts/ |
| 06:57.04 | Amarande | Shirik: which Soul Calibur? II I hope? |
| 06:57.20 | Shirik | 4 |
| 06:57.24 | Shirik | I don't think 2 is on xbox |
| 06:57.32 | Shirik | well |
| 06:57.34 | Amarande | Scythe, see if your local HDTV repair place will fix the monitor? |
| 06:57.35 | Shirik | I had it for the original I guess |
| 06:57.39 | Amarande | Shirik: yeah, it was out for the original |
| 06:57.45 | Shirik | I guess I could use that |
| 06:57.49 | Shirik | but yeah I really meant 4 |
| 06:57.49 | Amarande | I eventually got it for PS2 because my xbox is now less than fun to use |
| 06:57.56 | Amarande | and Soul Calibur III is a bad, bad thing to use |
| 06:58.06 | Amarande | Soul Calibur III = better get a dedicated memory card FOR ONE FREAKING GAME |
| 06:58.33 | Amarande | and I don't have a next-gen console yet because there don't seem to be enough good games to warrant buying one |
| 07:00.00 | Corrodias | do bioshock. fun times. |
| 07:00.03 | Amarande | lol ... this takes the cake for raid stories I think |
| 07:00.16 | Amarande | "I think [the mage] was alt-tabbed looking at porn on the Impaler, he was filing his nails when the worms were out, and doing a crossword on Icehowl. I swear he asked in Vent for a 6 letter word for a Device that cleans out a womans privates" |
| 07:00.43 | Corrodias | i don't have a recent console either. i'll play the best games that i REALLY want to play some day, when they're super cheap. but for now, i occupy myself with previous console games and pc games i didn't finish yet. |
| 07:01.21 | bleeter | lol @ GM's not knowing that ARgent Tourney dailies reset on relog |
| 07:01.43 | bleeter | apparently they've heard of the cooking... |
| 07:02.59 | Amarande | so, I added yet another boss to my raid experience tonight |
| 07:03.06 | Amarande | gaaaahhhhhhh |
| 07:03.09 | Amarande | 4 conqs short of that robe |
| 07:03.12 | Amarande | 4 bloody conqs |
| 07:03.20 | Amarande | I want it NAO! heh |
| 07:04.38 | Amarande | woot. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b219/beau_justice/WoW_Stuffs/HealerRageChart.jpg |
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| 07:06.09 | Amarande | on other notes, I really should level my warrior alt :S |
| 07:06.25 | Amarande | since she's my alchemist, and the other night I had to use a BC flask because there was literally not one bloody flask of the frostwyrm to be found on AH |
| 07:08.55 | Amarande | maybe you guys are right that my server is fail, if that was actually the case heh |
| 07:10.23 | Fisker | hmm |
| 07:10.28 | Fisker | does the new ptr require battle.net? |
| 07:12.34 | Amarande | I'm still foggy how this whole battle.net integration stuff is supposed to work |
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| 07:12.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't that hard |
| 07:12.45 | Amarande | I haven't touched b.net since my Diablo II days :S |
| 07:12.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You make a bnet account |
| 07:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ... unrelated |
| 07:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That is legacy bnet |
| 07:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | !g battle.net account faq |
| 07:13.44 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: The new Battle.net Frequently Asked Questions <http://us.battle.net/faq/index.html> |
| 07:15.15 | Amarande | "Dear Death Knight Pug, You were the epitiome of tanking gear =/= tank. If youre going to death grip pull, at least death grip the caster. You had my hunter trapping in Nexus. Trapping. In Nexus. We begged you to pull with DnD but no, the fun of making someone sail through the air was too much for you. I had to find my mis-direct button for trash pulls." |
| 07:15.34 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 07:15.41 | Amarande | actually, I think this might be proof that my server *isn't* fail |
| 07:15.53 | Amarande | I haven't, to my knowledge, encountered any of the classic bads yet on any recent heroic or raid |
| 07:15.55 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 07:15.57 | Fisker | why so diff? |
| 07:16.06 | jnwhiteh | penis! |
| 07:16.19 | Fisker | penis? |
| 07:16.26 | Fisker | btw you totally failed |
| 07:16.27 | jnwhiteh | penis! |
| 07:16.33 | Amarande | the usual causes of wipes were simply the usual learning bugaboos of slightly too slow reaction time, and once the shaman pulling bjarngrim while DC'd due to having put up totems |
| 07:16.47 | Fisker | Some guy said that to access the 3.3 PTR you needed a battle.net account |
| 07:16.47 | Amarande | (I swear, I have worse luck with Bjarngrim than *any* other 5-man heroic boss.) |
| 07:17.01 | Fisker | but i can't check since i have merged my accounts :( |
| 07:17.25 | Amarande | seems like half the time I go to HoL we end up wiping on B at least once because someone in the party isn't paying attention and he pats close enough to pull before ready |
| 07:17.26 | Amarande | or the healer DCs |
| 07:18.27 | Amarande | couple chain heroics tonight we had a shaman healer who was just plain awesomesauce |
| 07:18.33 | Amarande | -except- that he was ridiculously prone to DC |
| 07:18.38 | Amarande | bad weather in his area apparently or somesuch |
| 07:18.57 | Amarande | but yeah, this server rocks |
| 07:19.06 | Amarande | for the most part pug runs work out better than a lot of guild runs do elsewhere |
| 07:19.40 | jnwhiteh | are PTRs up? |
| 07:19.43 | jnwhiteh | the EU ones dont seem to be |
| 07:19.55 | Amarande | jnwhiteh: heard they went up in US a few hours ago |
| 07:20.00 | jnwhiteh | neat |
| 07:20.09 | Amarande | waiting to hear about heroics on them, mainly |
| 07:20.11 | jnwhiteh | i want to get on so I can run the api diff |
| 07:20.13 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 07:20.14 | Fisker | they're both up |
| 07:20.18 | jnwhiteh | so someone ping me |
| 07:20.21 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: I can't download the client |
| 07:20.23 | Amarande | whether we're still going to get conqs in 3.3 or if it's going to be triumph for all but top end and frost for top end |
| 07:20.27 | Fisker | yes you can |
| 07:20.28 | Fisker | l2p |
| 07:20.32 | Fisker | the launcher won't get you up2date |
| 07:20.34 | jnwhiteh | then hlep me. |
| 07:20.45 | jnwhiteh | i dont have the ptr client at all on this machine |
| 07:20.50 | Fisker | oh |
| 07:20.57 | Fisker | download the PTR for 0.0.1 |
| 07:20.57 | jnwhiteh | and i'd like to do the diffs :P |
| 07:21.01 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: how? |
| 07:21.06 | Fisker | on the website as usual |
| 07:21.08 | Amarande | if we're getting triumph in 3.3, then hell I might as well trade in four of my triumphs for conqs and get my robe ... otherwise, no, wait for next heroic |
| 07:21.24 | Amarande | you know, there should be achievements for doing the dumbest things in WoW. |
| 07:21.39 | Amarande | they can come with titles, and the player would be FORCED to wear their latest "I screwed up" title for X number of hours after earning it |
| 07:22.13 | Amarande | "_____ Who Traded His Triumph Badges for Conquests Instead of Running One More Heroic" "_____ Who Pulled Aggro" etc. |
| 07:22.38 | Fisker | got windows on the machine jnwhiteh ? |
| 07:22.44 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 07:23.01 | Fisker | you fail |
| 07:23.04 | Amarande | Achievement: "Sleep Now in the Fire" "Idle more than 5 seconds in a harmful persistent AoE object during a 10- or 25-man raid boss fight" "Title: Scrub" |
| 07:23.29 | Fisker | i don't think the client can figure out getting the installer unless you got 0.2.0 |
| 07:24.05 | jnwhiteh | I _might_ have 0.2.0 on an external hd |
| 07:24.07 | jnwhiteh | i can test that out. |
| 07:24.21 | Fisker | well i can't get you the installer |
| 07:24.24 | Fisker | because mac is for n00bs |
| 07:24.37 | Amarande | btw, is it true that half of healer strategy in ToC raid heroic consists of "run from the nice kitty half the fight"? |
| 07:25.15 | Amarande | wonders if someone at Blizzard is a cat attack victim heh |
| 07:25.28 | Fisker | what kitty? |
| 07:25.30 | Amarande | let's see ... ToC heroic: kitty will chase your healer all over the place pretty much no matter what |
| 07:25.49 | Amarande | Fisker: I forget exactly which boss battle it is, but one has a hunter with a cat pet that apparently <3's chasing your healer pretty much permanently |
| 07:25.56 | Amarande | at least according to this one healer blog |
| 07:26.01 | Fisker | oh champion factions |
| 07:26.14 | Amarande | as for other fun with cats: Auriaya |
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| 07:26.50 | Amarande | which is why initially I thought the purpose of ulduar enchants were "so your tank doesn't get gibbed so hard on Auriaya pull that instead of a corpse, he has to pick up each piece of gear individually to rez" |
| 07:26.58 | jnwhiteh | I've got the 8874 installer |
| 07:27.20 | Amarande | I've not been there, but it looks like that might rank as a serious candidate for "most delicate pull in the entirety of WoW" |
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| 07:27.56 | bleeter | starts doing the Orcale dailies for the 2nd time today to prove to the GMs that it's not JUST cooking that's fuxor |
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| 07:28.15 | bleeter | I figure haxing on Oracle rep to prove a bug is safe |
| 07:28.29 | bleeter | just once |
| 07:29.04 | Amarande | bleeter: on live or PTR? |
| 07:29.04 | Amarande | on PTR, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to do that and report it. on live, I'm not sure that's a wise thing. :) |
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| 07:30.11 | bleeter | Amarande: GM's told me they're only aware of Cooking being broken, so I'm out to prove them diff ;) |
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| 07:30.37 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: so even if i get this installed, no one has the right installer for it? |
| 07:31.11 | Amarande | ahh, I'm not one to search for dailies to exploit |
| 07:31.15 | Amarande | I mean, my thought train goes this way |
| 07:31.21 | Amarande | if I really want to daily up, I can only do 25 dailies a day |
| 07:31.28 | Amarande | there are about forty metric kajillion dailies in the game now |
| 07:31.34 | Amarande | therefore, there is no need to see if a daily popped twice :) |
| 07:32.10 | Jerub | I'm considering doing the l70 dailies instead of the l80 |
| 07:32.26 | Jerub | they pay half as much, but are much quicker to do if you're a geared level 80 |
| 07:32.36 | Amarande | Jerub: I might do that once I've gotten some more gear and can afford to be more laid back with my time |
| 07:32.37 | Shirik | wow |
| 07:32.41 | Shirik | google voice has a blackberry app |
| 07:32.42 | Shirik | hawtness |
| 07:32.43 | Amarande | right now, I'm on an obsessive gear upgrade kick |
| 07:33.07 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:33.07 | Amarande | since I'd like to at least one expansion not miss significant chunks of content due to never being able to catch up on gear in time |
| 07:33.09 | jpmorgan | can u use google voice over ip? |
| 07:33.12 | Amarande | four more conqs and I have a t8 robe |
| 07:33.17 | Amarande | dammit, I want set bonuses :( |
| 07:33.26 | Amarande | I'm gonna have like ... 1pt7, 1pt8, 1pt9 after this lol |
| 07:33.28 | Jerub | Amarande: hehehehe |
| 07:33.36 | Jerub | Amarande: I spent EoC on runed orbs this week! |
| 07:33.40 | Arrowmaster | jpmorgan: yes, it only works with one voip service though i think |
| 07:33.41 | Corrodias | televoice via internet protocol? what you say! |
| 07:33.47 | Amarande | wait, the runed orbs are actually good for something useful still? |
| 07:34.02 | Amarande | come to think of it ... what were the runed orbs for in the first place? |
| 07:34.08 | Amarande | I only ever hear about frozen or crusader mostly |
| 07:34.09 | jpmorgan | cool. we cant make this android work on nextel seattle |
| 07:34.09 | bleeter | Amarande: pretty easy to notice stuff's exploitable if one's heart is practically sitting next to the cooking daily giver ;) |
| 07:34.21 | bleeter | or one logs out at the inn at the argent tourny |
| 07:34.34 | Amarande | bleeter: that's dalaran. when I'm in dalaran, I'm usually more concerned with getting out of dalaran before the OMGLAG makes my blue bar turn red |
| 07:34.47 | jpmorgan | whch voip provider was that? |
| 07:34.58 | Amarande | and, coincidentally |
| 07:35.06 | Amarande | when I'm at the argent tournament grounds, I try not to stay for long |
| 07:35.09 | Amarande | because that's almost as slow as dalaran |
| 07:35.19 | Amarande | I'm surprised it's responsive enough for me to even be able to do the dailies |
| 07:35.23 | Arrowmaster | jpmorgan: gizmo |
| 07:35.34 | jpmorgan | thx |
| 07:36.31 | bleeter | Amarande: the argent tourney inn isn't in dalaran |
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| 07:36.52 | Amarande | bleeter: no, it's just almost as laggy |
| 07:36.52 | mitch0 | Esamynn: yo, are you around? |
| 07:36.55 | Amarande | like I mentioned earlier |
| 07:37.14 | Amarande | until I turned my graphics down, it was so laggy that I missed half the joust during today's TOC5 heroic run because I was still trying to get my ass into the instance portal |
| 07:39.07 | bleeter | i'm sorry i missed that i must've afkd |
| 07:40.35 | bleeter | Amarande: with the amount of lag, and how crap you say the game is, i'm amazed you play at all. you must be like some guy who enjoys slamming his dick in the car door, or something |
| 07:41.01 | Jerub | Amarande: runed orbs ar euseful for crafting patterns that are 10x cheaper than ToGC patterns. |
| 07:41.15 | Jerub | i'm saving up to buy ToGC patterns from the AH |
| 07:43.01 | Amarande | Jerub: ah, I missed 3.1 so I'm foggy on what patterns use the runed orbs |
| 07:43.14 | Jerub | Amarande: ulduar drops them |
| 07:43.16 | Amarande | and my main's profession (JC) doesn't have any runed OR crusader orb recipes so I'm double out of the loop |
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| 07:44.17 | Amarande | meh bleeter, I like the game more than it annoys me |
| 07:44.31 | Amarande | it's just that we don't talk about the things that are right about the game because, well, those are what's right about the game so meh |
| 07:44.47 | Amarande | we talk about the things that are wrong with the game because it's human nature to kvetch about what's not perfect :) |
| 07:45.01 | Amarande | also, they're the things that demand more attention |
| 07:45.18 | Amarande | I mean, let's see. if you have all the perfect gear in the game, for instance, do you really need to worry about gear, aside from paying the repair bill? |
| 07:45.35 | Amarande | no. on the other hand, if you do not have all the perfect gear *then* you have to worry about gear, and so gear comes on your mind more often. |
| 07:45.37 | Amarande | it's kinda like that. |
| 07:46.31 | Amarande | If something works right, you don't think that much about it, you just do it and have fun. If something isn't quite right, then it starts to scratch at you, and you end up thinking about it more, and thus likely to *talk* about it more. :) |
| 07:46.53 | Jerub | a problem shared is a problem halved. |
| 07:47.01 | Amarande | hell, it's the same in programming, do you spend most of your time obsessing over the code that's working, or the code that needs fixing? :) |
| 07:47.12 | Jerub | it dpeends. |
| 07:47.17 | Jerub | are you in testing? :P |
| 07:47.44 | Amarande | Jerub: as a general rule, if you design and code much of anything, you kinda have at least a moral responsibility to give it at least a little testing |
| 07:48.41 | Amarande | which also is why I tend to get pretty vocal especially about glaring flaws that make it through to release in games |
| 07:48.54 | Amarande | because ... it always seems to me that if something is that glaringly wrong *someone* should have noticed :) |
| 07:50.32 | Amarande | otoh, maybe it's different in the corporate world |
| 07:50.52 | Amarande | I just know when I do my amateur projects, I tend to lovingly test each feature to make sure that it's pretty much airtight |
| 07:51.02 | Jerub | Amarande: 'corporate' is the antithesis of a good environment for programmers. |
| 07:51.12 | Amarande | Jerub: you got the wrong P word there |
| 07:51.21 | Amarande | 'corporate' is the antithesis of a good environment for people :) |
| 07:51.31 | Amarande | hence why so many people hate their job, heh |
| 07:51.44 | Amarande | even if they enjoyed the field and interest that they chose to take the job in |
| 07:51.45 | Jerub | I write code for network appliances, and i'm filled with rage every time i use poorly designed/written/implemented products. |
| 07:51.56 | Amarande | Jerub: the same is the case for me with customer service |
| 07:52.09 | Amarande | I work customer service, I basically pull out all the stops to make sure I do my job as best I can |
| 07:52.34 | Amarande | thus, when I see companies basically try to write off customer service as a serious liability that should be kept to as much of a minimum as possible, I get annoyed. |
| 07:52.58 | Amarande | otoh, admittedly, I 1) work in a retail environment, which means we have to be very competitive for the hearts and wallets of customers |
| 07:53.17 | Amarande | and 2) I've never been an executive, so I don't know what it's like to try to manage everything with limited total resources and tons of stuff at stake |
| 07:53.39 | Amarande | well, yeah, I know about limited total resources. it's why I have second-string enchants on some of my gear still. but the 'tons of money at stake' thing is not within my experience. :) |
| 07:53.47 | Jerub | also, you're in america, where all the rules are wobbly. |
| 07:54.36 | Amarande | so for instance, instead of seeing gaming as a mostly successful business industry, what I see is a steady decline in the quality and fun of most games since the good old days |
| 07:54.46 | Amarande | and blame it on trying to attract certain customer bases |
| 07:55.11 | Jerub | :D |
| 07:55.34 | Amarande | I have to wonder in terms of absolute quality how much better gaming would be if they didn't need to appeal to the competitive e-peen needs of teenagers |
| 07:56.01 | Jerub | They made fun at me the other day at work for phoning the bus company about the security guards they have that ask for tickets (unnecesserily) at bus platforms before you board a bus (which asks you for a ticket anyway) |
| 07:56.12 | Amarande | otoh, it's easy to go too far in the other direction, I suppose |
| 07:56.23 | jnwhiteh | yay 10522 downloading |
| 07:56.28 | Jerub | I have been conducting an experiement about what responses they accept. Apparently "fuck off" and silence and "no" are all acceptable answers. |
| 07:56.29 | Amarande | one could make the game too easy, and then while Ulduar and ToGC and such would be just as awesome in terms of content |
| 07:56.41 | Amarande | you would only ever need to do them once, and then they would be old hat, like a console game. |
| 07:56.52 | Amarande | I think this may be one of the reasons Guild Wars declined in popularity. |
| 07:57.10 | Amarande | it wasn't that the content was bad, it was actually pretty fun |
| 07:57.23 | Amarande | it was just that you could finish the content so quickly and then there was nothing else to do but farm stupidly rare vanity stuff |
| 07:57.32 | Jerub | i was talking to some friends who as a family (7 of them total) just cut off their wow accounts because they're waiting for cataclysm. |
| 07:58.09 | Jerub | two of them have reached 80, some of them got close, and their stated reason was, "we've seen all the content now, we're waiting for the new content to be released" |
| 07:58.14 | Jerub | but to me, the game STARTED at 80. |
| 07:58.26 | Amarande | Jerub: for those of us like you and I who reached 80 soon enough, it did. |
| 07:58.34 | Jerub | and they can't comprehend farming heroics i don't think |
| 07:58.47 | Amarande | For more casual players, I imagine my QQ about getting into groups, which turned out to be misplaced, is actually true and with much greater force. |
| 07:59.07 | Jerub | oh, groups? |
| 07:59.08 | Jerub | they never pug |
| 07:59.18 | Jerub | HOW CAN YOU PLAY THIS GAME AND NOT PUG? |
| 07:59.18 | Amarande | As the game progresses within an expansion, groups, fairly reasonably, demand an ever increasing standard in order to get in |
| 07:59.28 | Amarande | (simply because you don't want to spend four hours in heroic slave pens like I did once :P) |
| 07:59.37 | Jerub | yeah, i think if i ever met them in game, i'd just /kick after a while. |
| 07:59.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah the truely casual dont pug, they just level to max level then quit or reroll |
| 08:00.10 | Amarande | Sadly, I think we might soon be approaching the point where there does become an actual disconnect between "gear you have as a fresh 80" and "gear that lets you into an instance so you can progress gear" |
| 08:00.16 | Amarande | Not yet, but maybe soon. Maybe in 3.3. |
| 08:00.30 | Amarande | I know that split did occur during BC for the most part. |
| 08:00.47 | Arrowmaster | all the statistics about how many players wow has are very skewed |
| 08:01.01 | Amarande | There came a point where you could not improve your gear without doing 70 instances or heroics, but no one did 70 instances and you couldn't get into heroics without having gear from Kara or higher. |
| 08:01.02 | Arrowmaster | a good chunk of that are players that dont play at max level |
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| 08:01.16 | Amarande | Meanwhile, you couldn't get into Kara or higher without having reasonable stats that you basically had to do heroics for. |
| 08:01.27 | Jerub | runs off. |
| 08:01.31 | Amarande | I called it the BC Spiral of Sorrow. |
| 08:01.47 | Amarande | WotLK doesn't have it yet, but with the standards some PUGs demand, it might eventually. |
| 08:02.00 | Arrowmaster | and ofcourse the majority of the numbers quoted for number of wow players are from the asian realms, they outnumber US+EU combined |
| 08:02.04 | Amarande | Unless you're a healer of course, because healers are all mega cool and awesome and such |
| 08:02.16 | Amarande | (unless they're holy priests, those are Fail Angels) |
| 08:02.57 | Amarande | hmm, speaking of that claim of I Like Bubbles |
| 08:03.08 | Amarande | how many raid bosses exist in current content where a specifically holy priest is overwhelmingly important to bring? |
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| 08:03.19 | Amarande | i.e., where a Disc priest or other class healers just won't do |
| 08:03.55 | Arrowmaster | which priest spec has that anti death thingy |
| 08:04.11 | Amarande | arrow: which anti death thingy? |
| 08:04.18 | Amarande | guardian spirit, or fail angel? |
| 08:04.24 | Arrowmaster | guardian spirit |
| 08:04.27 | Amarande | ah, GS is holy |
| 08:04.39 | Amarande | I'm trying to think what fight that might be a total necessity on |
| 08:05.00 | Amarande | the only fight I can think of OTTOMH that has unavoidable death as a feature is Vaelastrasz |
| 08:05.02 | Arrowmaster | it was a total necessity for 3drake sarth back in january when i did it |
| 08:05.04 | Amarande | and IIRC, GS doesn't work there |
| 08:05.13 | tem | yes it does |
| 08:05.16 | tem | you're a moron |
| 08:05.17 | Amarande | tem: it does? |
| 08:05.28 | nevcairiel | of course it does |
| 08:05.29 | Amarande | I thought what happened was that GS would proc instead of death, it would find character's HP is 0 of max 0 and kill them anyway |
| 08:05.38 | tem | oh we're talking about different things |
| 08:05.39 | Amarande | at least that was what wowhead suggested IIRC |
| 08:05.43 | tem | you're talking about vael |
| 08:05.47 | tem | we're talking about sarth |
| 08:06.01 | nevcairiel | when you were fighting vael, there was no freaking GS :P |
| 08:06.12 | Amarande | nevcairiel: yeah, but now there is, and it still doesn't help :) |
| 08:06.19 | nevcairiel | if you need it now, you fail |
| 08:06.27 | Arrowmaster | when i was fighting vael there was firepot+laststand |
| 08:06.30 | Amarande | nevcairiel: or your raid is too small |
| 08:06.37 | tem | I wonder if it does work, though |
| 08:06.41 | Amarande | I imagine there's a lot of folks cutting it too small on BWL |
| 08:06.44 | nevcairiel | which again, is fail :P |
| 08:06.54 | Amarande | especially because the shit for the AQ40 chain is "sorry, only one person per week!" |
| 08:06.57 | tem | well no I guess it doesn't |
| 08:07.09 | Amarande | (and if you're not doing the AQ40 chain, why are you going to BWL? :D) |
| 08:07.14 | tem | GS "death" doesn't drop your buffs or debuffs |
| 08:07.20 | tem | so you'd still have 0 max health |
| 08:07.33 | nevcairiel | it would probably give you 1-2 seconds longer :p |
| 08:07.33 | Arrowmaster | last stand and similar abilities used to be the trick to surving BA, but you needed a firepot too so the aoe wouldnt kill you |
| 08:08.31 | Amarande | was there a particular gimmick for which GS was required for sarth+3, or was it just "way too much OMGWTFBBQ damage on the tank at once" |
| 08:08.47 | Arrowmaster | way too much OMGWTFBBQ damage on the tank at once |
| 08:08.49 | nevcairiel | the breath |
| 08:08.57 | Amarande | actually, I can think of a battle where some raids need GS depending on strategy, but I'm not sure how effective it would be |
| 08:09.00 | Amarande | Auriaya, the pull |
| 08:09.10 | Arrowmaster | that fight was fucking hard in january |
| 08:09.15 | Amarande | how else are you going to avoid someone becoming Kitty KalKan right off the bat? |
| 08:09.18 | nevcairiel | on sarth+3 you need those specials when drake 2+3 are up |
| 08:09.38 | nevcairiel | otherwise the breath is too dangerous |
| 08:09.39 | Amarande | from what I understand about Auriaya, as soon as you pull, whoever first gets aggro gets instantly attacked by all the kitties |
| 08:09.49 | Amarande | all of which have a stacking omgwtfbbq damage buff on them |
| 08:09.54 | nevcairiel | Amarande, play with LoS and Taunts, works fine. |
| 08:09.58 | Amarande | it's like ... 80,000 damage at once on heroic apparently |
| 08:10.14 | Amarande | 'course, by cata that'll be child's play, with some of the hp I've seen on tanks already |
| 08:10.32 | Amarande | the other night I was in ... think it was heroic gundrak or toc or somesuch and there was a tank with close to 50k |
| 08:11.11 | Amarande | ah so that's the trick |
| 08:11.12 | olafski | we LoS pulled with D&D on auriaya and tanks would taunt the kitties before they hit the death knight |
| 08:11.20 | olafski | (or the DK would be one of the kitty tanks) |
| 08:11.25 | Amarande | someone tried bubbles, but apparently that just causes the kitties to go omnomnom four random raid members |
| 08:11.36 | nevcairiel | we pulled with whatever we had .. shaman totems, hunter traps.. |
| 08:11.40 | nevcairiel | didnt really matter =P |
| 08:12.04 | Amarande | speaking of which, how many tanks and healers does ulduar25 require? |
| 08:12.06 | Arrowmaster | im guessing the old pet pull is frowned upon now by hunters? |
| 08:12.16 | Amarande | I'm suspecting at least 5 of each just for that fight? |
| 08:12.28 | nevcairiel | on auriaya it kills the pet, and shortly after the hunter :P |
| 08:12.52 | Arrowmaster | sweet |
| 08:12.53 | Amarande | nev: otoh, pets are fairly useless in ulduar, apparently |
| 08:12.57 | Amarande | according to the i like bubbles blogger anyway |
| 08:13.10 | nevcairiel | pet pulls have been "old" since we have misdirect, anyway |
| 08:13.21 | Arrowmaster | they were fun though |
| 08:13.35 | Amarande | it's a fairly simple problem. ulduar has apparently way too much XYZ you aren't to stand in, and so hunters, especially BM hunters, lose way too much DPS because they have to keep shifting attention to getting their pet out of XYZ |
| 08:14.09 | Amarande | it's apparently made experienced raiders cry. |
| 08:14.22 | Arrowmaster | you always had that little extra excitement to see if somebody would do something stupid like cast gift of the wild after pulling ebonroc/flamegor |
| 08:14.24 | Amarande | I don't know if any raids since then have been as heavy on the fire |
| 08:14.29 | Arrowmaster | yes that really happened |
| 08:14.34 | Amarande | say ... speaking of don't stand in things in ulduar |
| 08:14.42 | Amarande | are pets subject to the sanity stuff on yogg? |
| 08:15.03 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster, sometimes even mana-regeneration pulled aggro of the silly pets |
| 08:15.17 | Arrowmaster | BoW |
| 08:15.24 | Arrowmaster | before they made it 0 threat |
| 08:15.46 | Amarande | ulduar's one of the raids I haven't been to yet, so I don't know all the details |
| 08:15.58 | Arrowmaster | havent been either |
| 08:16.15 | Amarande | stuff I still need to do ... OS25, Ony25, Naxx both modes, TOC raid both modes, Ulduar both modes, Malygos both modes |
| 08:16.26 | Amarande | stuff I've been to ... OS10, Ony10, VOA10 & 25 |
| 08:16.44 | Amarande | well actually I've *been* to Ony25 but not for a successful kill |
| 08:17.19 | Amarande | and I might very well pass on Malygos |
| 08:17.26 | Amarande | because Malygos looks like it's a mega annoying fight to learn |
| 08:17.40 | Amarande | that disc stuff makes stuff like heigan seem easy by comparison |
| 08:17.40 | nevcairiel | malygos is fun |
| 08:17.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont think ive ever done malygos10 |
| 08:17.58 | Arrowmaster | casters dont use the discs |
| 08:18.00 | nevcairiel | the disc stuff isnt exactly hard. . just jump on a disc, and kill the mobs.. |
| 08:18.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah you cant get hurt while on the disc anyway |
| 08:18.50 | Amarande | there's a few 5-man heroics I still need to achieve on too |
| 08:18.56 | Amarande | at least for the basic "Heroic:" achievement |
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| 08:19.21 | Amarande | have to go to TOC again because I've never encountered one of the bosses yet, have to do OK again because we failed on the mushroom boss the time way back when when I went last |
| 08:19.31 | Amarande | never finished HoS, and I've never been to AN or Occy at all |
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| 08:20.37 | Amarande | btw, that mechanic with radiance on Eadric in TOC5 ... that's basically the same thing you have to do when yogg does lunatic gaze? |
| 08:21.08 | Amarande | "swing camera away from boss nao"? |
| 08:21.34 | Amarande | also: when I'm in VoA and hear "run away little girl" is that the Watchers saying that or is that DBM? :) |
| 08:21.42 | Amarande | (I've never raided WotLK without DBM, soo ...) |
| 08:23.50 | Arrowmaster | its probably DBM playing the big bad wolf voice emote |
| 08:27.14 | Amarande | ah. |
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| 08:45.17 | Amarande | ok ... truth or rumor |
| 08:45.21 | Amarande | Arthas is going to be a 5-man boss |
| 08:46.56 | batrick | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 08:47.06 | jnwhiteh | batrick: pong |
| 08:47.16 | Elkano | well, maybe you can play with him a bit in 5 but I don't think he |
| 08:47.26 | Elkano | ...he'll go down outside 10/25 |
| 08:47.46 | Elkano | ah, jnwhiteh ^^ I did it, too... I preordered... |
| 08:47.49 | Thunder_Child | you fail at completing sentances Elkano |
| 08:48.02 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: lol |
| 08:48.18 | Elkano | Thunder_Child, it's more the ' being right next to <return> |
| 08:48.30 | Thunder_Child | Elkano, i have done it myself |
| 08:48.50 | Thunder_Child | but that just means i fail as well |
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| 08:54.50 | Amarande | also: |
| 08:54.51 | Amarande | "Yesterday was egg hatching day. We were still assembling the raid so I popped open Lyrandres egg to recieve a White Tickbird. Its not unsual for me to get Tickbirds out of both eggs every damn week," |
| 08:55.05 | Amarande | where do you get the other egg? I know you get one from oracles each week, but I don't know where the other one's from |
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| 08:55.16 | Amarande | but I do remember the oracle eggs to be Unique if I can recall, soo ... |
| 08:55.50 | Amarande | that reminds me, I need to finish up my frenzyheart achievements so I can switch to oracles and start getting eggs eventually |
| 08:56.18 | Amarande | yeayea, I know, it's been around for a long long time |
| 08:56.29 | Amarande | I just find Sholazar Basin is usually waaaaay out of my way and thus I always forget to go :) |
| 08:56.53 | Amarande | I go there like ... when the fishing daily is ghostfish, or when I need nettlefish or goby, that's about it heh |
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| 09:23.28 | bleeter | exploit it, totally doable right now |
| 09:23.32 | bleeter | at least, on my realm |
| 09:24.14 | Wobin | Amarande, perhaps using two toons? |
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| 09:26.15 | Wobin | also goddamnit |
| 09:26.18 | Wobin | bacon craving =( |
| 09:26.23 | Amarande | ah, I didn't think of that. |
| 09:26.23 | Wobin | and it's 7:30pm |
| 09:37.00 | Amarande | hm, let's see if I can do the new daily heroic or if I'll have to wait till after work |
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| 09:41.04 | nevcairiel | anyone got a link to the enGB 0.3.0 PTR patch? |
| 09:46.16 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I just used the ptr client and it pulled it. |
| 09:46.35 | nevcairiel | mine just says couldn't verify version |
| 09:47.19 | nevcairiel | oh well the patches will appear on mirrors sooner or later |
| 09:47.24 | nevcairiel | i'm not in a real hury |
| 09:48.10 | jnwhiteh | i'll be diff-ing as soon as i'm patched and in-game |
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| 10:17.34 | jnwhiteh | whoa whoa whoa |
| 10:19.58 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/125998 |
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| 10:32.54 | Elkano | oh, jnwhiteh, seems like they finaly added an API to giveou reputation for quests directly |
| 10:33.07 | jnwhiteh | yeah seems it. |
| 10:33.35 | Elkano | hmmm COMPANION_UNLEARNED ? |
| 10:34.50 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/125998 |
| 10:35.51 | Elkano | oh, API to get the real height and width of a texture ^^ |
| 10:37.04 | Elkano | oh, and worldmap resizing? |
| 10:37.14 | jnwhiteh | dunno :P |
| 10:37.20 | jnwhiteh | someone lse (with the time) shoudl play with them |
| 10:37.26 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 10:37.28 | nevcairiel | i heard someone say that the worldmap changed quite alot |
| 10:37.34 | nevcairiel | because they did some magic for the quest tracking there |
| 10:37.48 | nevcairiel | but i havent seen a full interface diff, nor a patch for me yet =p |
| 10:38.09 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: tekkub committed the new framexml |
| 10:38.13 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 10:38.15 | Elkano | the Achievment frame seems to have been redone, too... at least a bunch of new functions related to that |
| 10:38.26 | jnwhiteh | i can also do a full framexml diff if youd' like |
| 10:38.43 | nevcairiel | i'll just look at teks for now and wait for kd3's mail =P |
| 10:40.01 | jnwhiteh | who |
| 10:40.02 | jnwhiteh | whoa |
| 10:40.04 | jnwhiteh | the world map |
| 10:40.06 | jnwhiteh | is fucked. |
| 10:40.08 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:40.31 | Stanzilla | http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4618/wowscrnshot100209024548.jpg |
| 10:41.06 | nevcairiel | hey thats kinda nice |
| 10:41.12 | nevcairiel | need polishing, but nice idea :P |
| 10:41.40 | nevcairiel | but i need to move the mapster button again |
| 10:41.42 | nevcairiel | screw that |
| 10:41.42 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:42.37 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/67ead30e5448d614850d5314b8f2bbcc.png |
| 10:43.35 | jnwhiteh | weird |
| 10:43.39 | jnwhiteh | i dont like the reduced size of the map |
| 10:43.52 | nevcairiel | from the code it sounds like you can toggle that |
| 10:44.18 | jnwhiteh | here's the full size world map now |
| 10:44.19 | Stanzilla | probably two buttons where the green square is |
| 10:44.22 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3038ccde56a5bf4ffcccab8fd0ddc4e8.png |
| 10:44.29 | jnwhiteh | no, the green square is one button |
| 10:44.37 | jnwhiteh | toggles the full screen/non-full screen map |
| 10:44.40 | nevcairiel | they forgot the texture, eh |
| 10:44.40 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 10:45.29 | nevcairiel | hm in fullscreen mode it looks a bit weird |
| 10:45.36 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:47.39 | Gnarfoz | what does? |
| 10:48.05 | nevcairiel | the map |
| 10:49.45 | Gnarfoz | hm, just connected, gotta check irssi via ssh for scrollback |
| 10:50.04 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3038ccde56a5bf4ffcccab8fd0ddc4e8.png |
| 10:50.09 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/67ead30e5448d614850d5314b8f2bbcc.png |
| 10:50.11 | nevcairiel | those two ^ |
| 10:50.44 | Gnarfoz | thx |
| 10:51.00 | Gnarfoz | oi, neat |
| 10:52.06 | nevcairiel | anyone happen to know a good german (or EU) vserver host? :P |
| 10:53.07 | Gnarfoz | s4y shouldn't be *too* bad, depending on what you need; not sure if hetzner does VPS's; keyweb also has a good reputation IIRC; and ovh of course |
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| 10:58.33 | Gnarfoz | luckily, this channel is mostly US etc. based, scrollback in the european morning hours isn't too bad |
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| 10:59.58 | nevcairiel | depends when you detached last night |
| 11:06.42 | Gnarfoz | this morning at 05:30 |
| 11:06.43 | Gnarfoz | ;o |
| 11:07.04 | nevcairiel | lol :P |
| 11:07.33 | Gnarfoz | forum subtitle for our (freshly created) icecrown sub-forum: 'Willkommen bei der Eiskrone Entertainment AG, mein Name ist Arthas "Lichkönig" Menethil - was kann ich für Sie tun?' |
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| 12:15.12 | Fisker | Anyone know a file manager for Windows that isn't batshit insane? |
| 12:15.22 | nevcairiel | explorer! |
| 12:15.28 | Fisker | yes i know |
| 12:15.35 | Fisker | But that isn't an option in this case |
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| 12:29.07 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 12:42.24 | zenzelezz | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:42.36 | Lopeppeppy | morning, dear. |
| 12:45.08 | Gnarfoz | Jerub: you didn't exaggerate when you said the Wave invites take long to go through o_o |
| 12:48.10 | foxlit | They travel on waves, clearly. |
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| 12:49.18 | Gnarfoz | the sea is quiet, then |
| 12:50.40 | Lopeppeppy | The calm... before the storm!!! |
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| 13:04.54 | Adys | [15:46:05] <Gnarfoz> Jerub: you didn't exaggerate when you said the Wave invites take long to go through o_o |
| 13:04.58 | Adys | As I said |
| 13:04.59 | Adys | its not real invites |
| 13:05.06 | Adys | its increased chances to get in |
| 13:06.11 | Lopeppeppy | Lots of scams floating around from people pretending to offer invites. |
| 13:06.54 | Gnarfoz | right, *that's* the problem ;D |
| 13:07.00 | Fisker | no it's not Adys |
| 13:07.03 | Elkano | Lopeppeppy, need one? just hand me your email, bank account number, tans, ... ;) |
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| 13:08.03 | Adys | Fisker: yes, yes it is |
| 13:08.09 | Adys | for a large amount of people it has been |
| 13:08.15 | Adys | for a large amount of people it will be |
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| 13:08.37 | Fisker | Call me back when the beta is over |
| 13:08.50 | Adys | many people who got invited at the same time receive it at different times |
| 13:09.00 | Lopeppeppy | Bite me, Elkano. :P |
| 13:09.49 | Elkano | if i'm allowed to spice you, first ^^ |
| 13:11.29 | zenzelezz | you saying peppy's not spicy enough already? |
| 13:12.52 | Elkano | well, maybe if bathing in soy isn't unusual ;) |
| 13:14.46 | Adys | you know this is amazing |
| 13:14.47 | Lopeppeppy | Soy is bad for you. Try some cumin instead. |
| 13:14.49 | Adys | having a browser |
| 13:14.52 | Adys | and |
| 13:14.58 | Adys | leaving it open over 2 weeks |
| 13:15.11 | zenzelezz | that's unusual? |
| 13:15.14 | Adys | yes |
| 13:15.19 | Adys | with firefox it is unusual |
| 13:15.21 | zenzelezz | I think I restart my Firefox once a month on my linux box |
| 13:15.37 | Adys | i cant do that |
| 13:15.41 | Adys | i only have 6gb ram |
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| 13:16.28 | zenzelezz | I only have 4 GB on a 32-bit system; but my general usage patterns on the computer probably help make it possible |
| 13:16.47 | zenzelezz | if I'd used it the same way I do my work computer it would only last a few days before I'd have to restart Firefox |
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| 13:17.28 | Adys | i wish there were chrome stats |
| 13:18.18 | Adys | like how many tabs you close every day etc |
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| 13:19.05 | Kraps | cool maps http://www.wow.com/gallery/patch-3-3-ptr-icecrown-5-player-dungeon-maps/2332447/ |
| 13:21.17 | Adys | Kraps: http://mmo-champion.com |
| 13:21.18 | Adys | hi |
| 13:21.36 | Kraps | Adys: you i just found them |
| 13:21.46 | Kraps | s/you/yeah/ |
| 13:23.58 | Kraps | ghost of terenas? |
| 13:24.26 | zenzelezz | are they actually bringing Mr. Bigglesworth back? |
| 13:24.35 | zenzelezz | he would be pretty cool to fight |
| 13:26.08 | foxlit | should be the first boss. |
| 13:26.16 | foxlit | kill the critter, loot the chest. |
| 13:26.45 | Ne-vyn | 1% chance to get Mr Bigglesworth as a pet? |
| 13:29.56 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 13:29.57 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 13:31.06 | Lopeppeppy | Wow... I cannot believe Amarande is more innocent than Peppy! |
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| 13:36.09 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:37.21 | Kraps | so how and why is Terenas back? |
| 13:37.36 | zenzelezz | he's back... with a vengeance! |
| 13:37.45 | Fisker | memories |
| 13:37.57 | Fisker | finish the song yourself |
| 13:38.28 | zenzelezz | I suppose he might be back because he's not entirely happy his son slew him |
| 13:38.46 | Kraps | ya think? |
| 13:39.02 | zenzelezz | yeah, that sort of thing never seems to go down well with parents |
| 13:39.30 | Kraps | heh |
| 13:40.46 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:41.23 | Kraps | think he'll be summoned or just pop in "hai gyz i wanna watch you kill my son and tell him hes a bad person" |
| 13:42.32 | zenzelezz | I think it will be a reverse Darth Vader |
| 13:42.37 | zenzelezz | he'll cleanse Arthas |
| 13:42.59 | Ackis | kd3: reading scrollback, screenie? may I see! :D |
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| 13:53.22 | alestane | "probly prety basic but im not to good at macro programing." |
| 13:53.23 | alestane | No, it really helps if you're literate to start with. |
| 13:54.01 | Fisker | awesome zenzelezz |
| 13:54.20 | Lunessa | alestane: You're expecting too much. Remember - the computer is supposed to do all that reading and thinking stuff for you. |
| 13:55.33 | alestane | Ta everyone, actuall get to work today. |
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| 14:20.15 | Kraps | http://wcbstv.com/local/david.letterman.extortion.2.1222988.html |
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| 14:22.41 | Kraps | hes really that good eh? |
| 14:23.53 | Lunessa | So, Dave had sex, and he was embarrassed about it. |
| 14:25.13 | Lopeppeppy | And someone tried to ding him over it. |
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| 14:26.02 | mikma | gz |
| 14:28.53 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/644/ |
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| 14:29.10 | nevcairiel | hehe that one was great |
| 14:29.46 | Lunessa | And... http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/10/02/funny-pictures-is-mah-bukkit/ |
| 14:29.50 | Lopeppeppy | lurves Lunessa |
| 14:30.18 | Lunessa | lurves Lopeppeppy in ways both subtle and inappropriate. |
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| 14:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | Wheee! That's true love! |
| 14:36.19 | Lunessa | And for all you Mythbuster fans... http://roflrazzi.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/celebrity-pictures-kari-byron-definitely-busted.jpg |
| 14:36.52 | Lopeppeppy | Geek winterizing gadget - http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0535 (there's a link to men's sizes too) |
| 14:38.26 | Wobin | wow, the engrish is terrible |
| 14:39.01 | Ackis | olafski: http://www.southparkstudios.com/games/lgtdp/promotions.php |
| 14:39.29 | nevcairiel | Lopeppeppy, now i just need a mobile usb port to carry around with em |
| 14:39.41 | Wobin | nevcairiel, netbook =) |
| 14:40.18 | Wobin | there's a whole 'winter' category >< |
| 14:40.19 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, look for one of those "you can power your cellphone" type of devices, bet there's one with a usb port. :) |
| 14:40.58 | Wobin | http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0755 |
| 14:41.27 | Lopeppeppy | I liked this better, wobin... http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0759 |
| 14:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Less.... cheesy for the professional environment. |
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| 14:43.11 | Wobin | pft |
| 14:43.11 | olafski | ackis: Due to copyright and other legal reasons, South Park video content cannot be viewed outside the United States. |
| 14:43.16 | Fisker | aww i as expecting nsfw Lunessa ;( |
| 14:43.18 | Fisker | hah! |
| 14:43.25 | Fisker | we can watch south park in denmark |
| 14:43.27 | Fisker | so fuck yeah |
| 14:45.04 | Wobin | http://www.usbgeek.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=0899 |
| 14:45.15 | Lunessa | Fisker: Hrm... Harsher policies in your work place than mine. |
| 14:45.24 | Lopeppeppy | You... chop off his head? |
| 14:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | Eeeew! |
| 14:45.35 | Lopeppeppy | But nice girlfriend-gift, send her a teddy bear loaded with pictures. |
| 14:46.04 | Kraps | faaaake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF2WaXeluPk&feature=popt00us02 |
| 14:47.06 | Lunessa | Frankly I don't think people should be using their USB ports for things like heating drinks, making food, and powering stuffed animals. |
| 14:47.20 | Ackis | Lunessa: what about dog humping? |
| 14:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | But my cold paws! |
| 14:47.25 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis! |
| 14:47.33 | Lunessa | Ackis: No one should be doing that but dogs. |
| 14:48.02 | Ackis | you've never seen the USB dog humper? |
| 14:48.14 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis. Bad monkey |
| 14:48.37 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI-pct3zy18 |
| 14:49.28 | Lunessa | Ackis: I've seen /all sorts/ of /interesting/ USB devices. Let's just say some concern me more than others. |
| 14:49.41 | Kraps | Ackis: WELL FUCK YOU TOO |
| 14:50.38 | Ackis | Kraps: what'd I do? :( |
| 14:51.09 | Kraps | you dont link stuff like that! |
| 14:51.25 | Ackis | ... |
| 14:51.26 | Lopeppeppy | And you totally forgot the NSFW tag, dude. |
| 14:51.29 | Ackis | humps Kraps |
| 14:51.33 | Ackis | that's not NSFW |
| 14:51.45 | Lopeppeppy | it is, ackis, for me |
| 14:52.28 | Fisker | meatspin and goatse isn't NSFW for us |
| 14:52.55 | Lopeppeppy | Varies depending on your state, country, and sense of humor of boss. Mine has none. |
| 14:57.46 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: Ackis isn't SFW, regardless. And you _know_ this. |
| 14:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | But... he usually links me soft fluffy cuteness! I got rickrolled! |
| 14:59.06 | Adys | kd3: are you able to login to wow on ptr? |
| 14:59.15 | Adys | (and are you on a battle.net account) |
| 15:02.27 | Fisker | us or eu? |
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| 15:03.46 | Adys | Fisker: eu |
| 15:04.00 | Adys | i get some errors but dunno if its wine or wow |
| 15:04.03 | Adys | fixme:actctx:parse_assembly_elem wrong version for assembly manifest: 8.0.50727.762 / 8.0.50727.4053 |
| 15:04.03 | Adys | fixme:actctx:parse_manifest_buffer failed to parse manifest L"Z:\\home\\adys\\.wine\\drive_c\\Program Files\\World of Warcraft Public Test\\Microsoft.VC80.CRT.manifest" |
| 15:04.03 | Adys | fixme:actctx:parse_depend_manifests Could not find dependent assembly L"Microsoft.VC80.CRT" (8.0.50727.762) |
| 15:07.42 | kd3 | adys; I'm getting same errors |
| 15:07.51 | Kraps | apple has a new product out. it does... something http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgls9IwWUyU&feature=channel |
| 15:08.02 | jnwhiteh | so, I am looking for a place to backup my 40+GB of Photos. I don't need them browseable as galleries or anything like that. Ideally I'd like to toss my music there as well, on occasion. Thoughts? |
| 15:08.05 | kd3 | trying to figure out how to work around it, got some emails in to blizz folks too |
| 15:08.15 | Adys | its only bnet |
| 15:08.21 | Adys | i can log in fine to a normal acc |
| 15:08.42 | Lopeppeppy | jnwhiteh, external hard drive? |
| 15:08.55 | jnwhiteh | nope, needs to be an online solution |
| 15:09.08 | jnwhiteh | since i keep my own backups |
| 15:09.16 | jnwhiteh | but need something less volatile :P |
| 15:09.41 | Kaelten | jnwhiteh: I know my mom uses picassa for her pics |
| 15:09.55 | Kaelten | not sure if they offer a plan that can hold 40+GB |
| 15:09.58 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: not enough storage space =/ |
| 15:10.04 | Lopeppeppy | Picasa, smugmug, flickr, photobucket... but I dunno about 40G and I dunno about music. |
| 15:10.11 | Kaelten | jnwhiteh: Amazon S3? |
| 15:10.17 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: i'm looking into it |
| 15:10.24 | jnwhiteh | flickr is for my "good" photos :P |
| 15:10.25 | foxlit | For 40gb, buy an ipod. |
| 15:10.27 | jnwhiteh | i like storing the crap ones :P |
| 15:10.36 | foxlit | Use it as an external hard disk. |
| 15:10.57 | jnwhiteh | I already have external hard drives |
| 15:11.00 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 15:11.08 | jnwhiteh | if my house burns down, that doesn't help :P |
| 15:11.30 | Kaelten | that's about the only bulk storage that doesn't cost a shit ton. Either that or find a good reason to get a dedicated server |
| 15:11.41 | foxlit | Store them elsewhere. |
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| 15:12.20 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: I am thinking about BackBlaze, mirroring my external drive |
| 15:13.06 | Kaelten | hrm backblaze |
| 15:14.06 | Fisker | jnwhitehmeh |
| 15:14.45 | Kaelten | jnwhiteh: they almost seem too cheap to be true |
| 15:14.56 | Fisker | backblaze? |
| 15:14.57 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: they're fantastic, from everything I've seen heard and read |
| 15:15.07 | Torhal_ | Lopeppeppy: Fluffy cuteness! http://imgur.com/JSLod.jpg |
| 15:15.15 | Kaelten | really counding on the economy of scales it seems |
| 15:15.28 | jnwhiteh | but not unprescedented. |
| 15:15.33 | jnwhiteh | I mean, dropbox has how many users at 2GB each? |
| 15:15.35 | jnwhiteh | ;-) |
| 15:15.40 | jnwhiteh | and those are the free accounts |
| 15:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | Torhal_, cage match to the death! |
| 15:16.03 | Torhal_ | Hehehe |
| 15:16.05 | Kaelten | ya, and I know dropbox is backed by s3 |
| 15:16.20 | jnwhiteh | which is why i have no idea how they make money |
| 15:16.28 | jnwhiteh | since each free account potentially costs them $0.30 a month |
| 15:16.44 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Carbonite or Mozy are cheap solutions for online backup |
| 15:17.13 | jnwhiteh | I suppose the issue is I can't keep my photos on my main machine |
| 15:17.25 | Kaelten | so question I have to ask is if I delete a file on my disk does that delete it from backblaze |
| 15:17.25 | jnwhiteh | its a 160GB drive, and I have 40GB of photos, so its a waste of space for something I use very rarely. |
| 15:17.29 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: yes |
| 15:17.32 | jnwhiteh | after 30 days |
| 15:17.37 | jnwhiteh | its a mirror, not a repo |
| 15:17.43 | Kaelten | and they don't do network drives either |
| 15:17.50 | Kaelten | :( |
| 15:17.53 | jnwhiteh | nope, but they do external drives |
| 15:19.00 | Kraps | i'm bored |
| 15:19.35 | Kaelten | ya |
| 15:19.54 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1606/ 100 bucks |
| 15:20.02 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 15:20.02 | Kaelten | my use case is that I have a network drive setup because I ran out of diskspace |
| 15:20.33 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: do Mozy/Carbonite allow you to ignore certain files? |
| 15:20.37 | jnwhiteh | that's my only issue with dropbox at the moment. |
| 15:20.43 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: ah =/ |
| 15:21.12 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I don't know, I've never used them specifically, but I did browse the Carbonite site and know that they allow essentially unlimited space. |
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| 15:23.00 | Lunessa | http://www.carbonite.com/how_it_works/ |
| 15:24.42 | jnwhiteh | I'd probably choose backblze over carbonite |
| 15:24.45 | jnwhiteh | but I dunno |
| 15:24.55 | jnwhiteh | I think the external drive backed up to backblaze might be the best solution |
| 15:25.52 | Kraps | mozy has the "unnecessary hot chick in our ad" bonus |
| 15:26.29 | jnwhiteh | that's why i like backblaze |
| 15:26.35 | jnwhiteh | the chick in the front page ad isn't "hawt" :P |
| 15:26.53 | nicoli_s | yeah, i like products with fugly ad people |
| 15:26.56 | kdtresh | i haven't heard many good reviews of carbonite outside their advertising |
| 15:26.58 | Lopeppeppy | Oh gods, with the chicks |
| 15:28.08 | Lunessa | People piss me off. "I want to offer my course online next semester. " "Ok, you want WebCT (Blackboard) here's the contact person." "No, I don't want WebCT - I want my course to be ONLINE!" "Right, WebCT. That's the tool." "NO. You're not listening. I want my course to be ONLINE only." Me: /faceplam "Right. WebCT. That's our online course delivery platform." |
| 15:28.34 | Kraps | i mean, nothing wrong with hot chicks (hello go daddy) but watching the ads makes you go "wut" |
| 15:28.39 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 15:28.42 | Lunessa | Them: "You're not helping me. I'll go to the Dean for my school instead." |
| 15:29.05 | nicoli_s | man i hate webct |
| 15:29.06 | kdtresh | "do you know the name of the guy on first base?" "who." |
| 15:29.14 | nicoli_s | my stepfather admins it at my old university |
| 15:29.44 | Lopeppeppy | We use Blackboard too. |
| 15:29.59 | Lopeppeppy | And any professor too stupid to know what the online course too is, should NOT be allowed to do an online course. End of story. |
| 15:30.13 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: I don't hate it. I don't care about it. It's what we use for course content online. I even asked him if all he wanted was web space for materials and his students and he said no. |
| 15:30.35 | Lunessa | And he got snippy and told me I wasn't helping. |
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| 15:30.41 | kdtresh | did you ask him if he understood the concept of "web space" ? |
| 15:31.06 | kdtresh | sounds like a fantastic person to have in charge of people's education |
| 15:31.11 | nicoli_s | my main experience with it is its online test stuff that i had to use for chemistry, where they had these ridiculous rules you had to do to do subscripts and stuff, and most times id miss a question, it would be because of that |
| 15:31.55 | Lunessa | Heh - he teaches a science class as well. |
| 15:31.55 | Lopeppeppy | comforts Lunessa. Sheeple are the biggest cause of job dissatisfaction. True story. |
| 15:32.40 | nicoli_s | i hear that |
| 15:32.52 | nicoli_s | dealing with idiots is def the worst part of my job |
| 15:33.39 | kdtresh | three people in the marketing department here are trying to get iphones with the "we're going to be developing iphone apps" excuse |
| 15:33.45 | Kaelten | nicoli_s: you could move into my office, fix a lot of that problem |
| 15:34.01 | Kaelten | kdtresh: lol |
| 15:34.02 | kdtresh | when i asked them if it was going to be done in house, they said no, they would hire an outside vendor to write them |
| 15:34.15 | Adys | when was /print added? |
| 15:34.30 | kdtresh | they're currently on sprint contracts for ~55 bucks a month, unlimited data, email, everything |
| 15:34.44 | kdtresh | moving to at&t with iphones would be ~130/mo |
| 15:34.48 | kdtresh | each line |
| 15:34.49 | nicoli_s | wish i could get that deal |
| 15:34.51 | kdtresh | not including cost of phones |
| 15:35.02 | nicoli_s | and lol @ kaelten |
| 15:35.32 | kdtresh | all so they can "test" the iphone apps they won't even be writing |
| 15:36.03 | Kaelten | buy them the programming iphone sdk3 book from pragprog.com instead |
| 15:36.03 | kdtresh | but one of them won't be getting a new iphone, he'll get the ceo's old iphone 3g |
| 15:36.11 | nicoli_s | itd be even funnier if they didnt have macs |
| 15:36.14 | kdtresh | so our ceo can get a new iphone 3gs 16gb |
| 15:36.21 | kdtresh | well, only one of the three has a mac |
| 15:36.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:36.53 | kdtresh | we've got a big account with sprint, something like 30 lines, which is why we get them cheap |
| 15:37.00 | kdtresh | at&t's corporate stuff is garbage |
| 15:37.14 | kdtresh | we'd have to transfer everything to them to get any kind of discount |
| 15:37.57 | kdtresh | before our ceo got the iphone, she saw someone with one and had to have it |
| 15:38.03 | kdtresh | turns out what they had wasn't an iphone, it was a blackberry |
| 15:38.33 | kdtresh | shoots himself. |
| 15:38.44 | zenzelezz | kdtresh: team killer |
| 15:39.09 | nicoli_s | haha |
| 15:39.19 | kdtresh | that same marketing department has spent over 130 grand in preliminary work to rebrand our destination |
| 15:39.22 | kdtresh | 130 grand |
| 15:39.31 | nicoli_s | destination? |
| 15:39.33 | kdtresh | and they're forcing us to take a 1-week unpaid furlough |
| 15:39.50 | kdtresh | yeah, i work for a convention & visitor bureau |
| 15:39.56 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 15:40.21 | kdtresh | we apparently exist to try to draw tourism and stuff to the area |
| 15:40.21 | zenzelezz | what's a furlough? |
| 15:40.21 | kdtresh | furlough = unpaid vacation |
| 15:40.33 | Lopeppeppy | Or, even worse, come to work and dont' get paid. |
| 15:40.43 | kdtresh | well, at least they don't make us come in |
| 15:40.55 | kdtresh | but still, we get 1/2 a paycheck at christmas |
| 15:41.24 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think they can "make" anyone, but I've heard of people being fired for not meeting deadlines due to furlough time interfering. |
| 15:41.47 | kdtresh | well, this is a right to work state, they can terminate employment at any time for no reason |
| 15:41.56 | Lopeppeppy | It's just a backward way to get an excuse, sometimes. |
| 15:42.30 | zenzelezz | kdtresh: with extreme prejudice? |
| 15:42.38 | kdtresh | of course :P |
| 15:42.58 | zenzelezz | I need to rewatch that one, been a while now |
| 15:43.57 | kdtresh | it's just frustrating when we have to take a week unpaid and marketing drops 130 grand on preliminary work for a new ad campaign |
| 15:44.05 | kdtresh | and they end up with the tagline "a little west of center" |
| 15:44.12 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 15:44.12 | kdtresh | and it gets totally vetoed by the board |
| 15:44.14 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 15:44.29 | kdtresh | i personally thing it never should have made it into the proposal, but that's just me |
| 15:44.37 | kdtresh | s/thing/think/ |
| 15:44.37 | zenzelezz | yeah, such things suck |
| 15:45.05 | nicoli_s | marketing always fucks shit up |
| 15:45.07 | kdtresh | but still, that 130k would probably cover most of the furlough |
| 15:45.20 | zenzelezz | one huge company over here spent about $15 million on rebranding, then they merged with another and got a whole new name shortly after |
| 15:45.31 | nicoli_s | id be lying very hard if i said curse marketing never fucked up :P |
| 15:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | There has to be *some* money spent on marketing during a downturn, otherwise there will be NO upturn at the end. |
| 15:45.54 | kdtresh | well, the way our organization is set up, it's "quasi-governmental" |
| 15:46.05 | kdtresh | we collect the room taxes for all the hotels in the county |
| 15:46.15 | kdtresh | that's where we get most of our budget |
| 15:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | This: http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/20821.asp |
| 15:46.36 | kdtresh | so if people aren't staying here, our money goes away |
| 15:47.15 | kdtresh | i could never be in marketing, it's way too much smoke & mirrors and absolute bs |
| 15:47.34 | kdtresh | same with sales |
| 15:53.31 | Lunessa | brb |
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| 15:55.24 | Tepel | Time to reboot to a BFS-less kernel |
| 15:55.30 | Tepel | It seems to be interfering with wine |
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| 15:56.07 | Kaelten | jnwhiteh: http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ |
| 15:56.13 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 15:57.42 | Kaelten | it'd have 58.7TB of usable space |
| 15:59.24 | Lunessa | Kaelten: That's pretty awesome. |
| 16:00.05 | Kaelten | ya... 58%B for under 8k |
| 16:00.19 | Kaelten | s/%/T/ |
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| 16:08.18 | jnwhiteh | hrm, SmugMug doesn't (by default) support storing .RAW files |
| 16:08.19 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 16:12.32 | Kaelten | smugmug? |
| 16:13.00 | Lopeppeppy | just another picture hosting place, kaelten |
| 16:13.44 | nicoli_s | sounds like a mug making company |
| 16:13.57 | Lopeppeppy | one stuck on itself! :P |
| 16:14.11 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 16:15.57 | jnwhiteh | The main problem I have is that I like to hold onto the 'bad' photos I take (since I take so many in sequence) btu don't want to push all of those up to flickr. |
| 16:15.59 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 16:17.11 | Kraps | i feel like buying CoD: WaW but modern warfare 2 is coming out in a month |
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| 16:20.56 | Fisker | then again cod sucks |
| 16:21.00 | Fisker | especially WaW |
| 16:21.13 | Kraps | lol Fisker lol |
| 16:23.18 | nicoli_s | waw was alright |
| 16:23.31 | nicoli_s | nothing too special except for the zombie levels |
| 16:24.21 | Kraps | i wanna find a good multiplayer shooter |
| 16:24.36 | Kraps | swat 4 was my first one |
| 16:25.34 | nicoli_s | have you tried section 8? |
| 16:26.16 | nicoli_s | its like a scifi kinda tf2 kinda game, but really cool |
| 16:26.35 | Fisker | no |
| 16:27.18 | Kraps | swat was really the only mp shooter i played |
| 16:27.29 | Kraps | americas army sucked |
| 16:29.11 | Kraps | realism in games = fail :p |
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| 16:29.42 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy |
| 16:29.46 | Shirik | I has google voice |
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| 16:32.36 | Kraps | nicoli_s: have you tried section 8? never heard of it |
| 16:33.31 | Ackis | Circle of Healing, Renew, Greater Heal, Flash Heal, Smite, Holy Fire, Lightwell, Prayer of Healing, Desperate Prayer, Holy Nova had the mana cost of their lower ranks reduced. |
| 16:33.42 | Ackis | the lower ranks still cost more than the highest rank right? |
| 16:34.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaay, Shirik! I do too! |
| 16:34.18 | Shirik | yeah |
| 16:34.24 | Shirik | you told me to get it like 2 months ago and that I'd get an invite in a week |
| 16:34.27 | Shirik | when you got it |
| 16:34.34 | Shirik | and then I was like qqqqqqqqqq for 2 months until now |
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| 16:35.37 | Lopeppeppy | That was a super long wait. |
| 16:36.39 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/funny-pictures-dog-sits-on-cat.jpg |
| 16:36.39 | Ackis | lol |
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| 16:38.19 | Shirik | w...t....f.... |
| 16:38.26 | Shirik | someone sent a LinkedIn invite to the Lua mailing list |
| 16:38.30 | jnwhiteh | yeha |
| 16:38.33 | jnwhiteh | it happens a lot, actually |
| 16:38.52 | Ackis | linkedin irks me |
| 16:38.57 | jnwhiteh | I'm really annoyed that 1.) I took this picture, and 2.) that I like it =) |
| 16:39.03 | Ackis | speaking of which I should update mine |
| 16:39.15 | jnwhiteh | my favorite pics always end up being something random like that |
| 16:40.05 | Shirik | what's wrong with linkedin? |
| 16:40.29 | Shirik | aside from the nuts that use it like facebook |
| 16:41.25 | Ackis | that's what annoys me lol |
| 16:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | I've gotten no use out of it, just another thing that work required me to do. |
| 16:41.42 | nicoli_s | linkedin is designed for like business networking right? |
| 16:41.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yup |
| 16:42.03 | Shirik | work.... requires? |
| 16:42.05 | Shirik | wtf |
| 16:42.13 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm |
| 16:42.26 | Shirik | anyway Ackis, just say "I don't know you" and those people will very quickly realize they're Doing It Wrong⢠|
| 16:42.38 | Ackis | heh |
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| 16:43.34 | Shirik | gotta go |
| 16:47.47 | Fisker | noooooooooo |
| 16:50.30 | Adys | is there some standard algorithm to detect whether 4 bytes represent more likely a float or an int? |
| 16:50.59 | Ackis | updated his linkedin :( |
| 16:51.09 | kdtresh | 2016: rio |
| 16:52.05 | theorbtwo | Adys: Hm, thinking out loud a bit -- first off, if the float is NaN, it's probably an int. If the int is divisible by 10, or a power of two, it's probably an int. |
| 16:53.10 | zenzelezz | kdtresh: that's what happens when you send Oprah; they want olympics, not a talk show |
| 16:53.37 | kdtresh | i doubt the obamas helped very much |
| 16:53.48 | kdtresh | "give us the games, for mah daddy!" |
| 16:54.33 | theorbtwo | kdtresh: I'd have thought that showing that the president of the united states was actively interested would have helped. |
| 16:55.05 | kdtresh | certainly possible |
| 16:55.07 | zenzelezz | theorbtwo: or... "they're not good enough alone, they need to send the president?" |
| 16:55.29 | kdtresh | he was the first sitting president to attend a selection ceremony |
| 16:56.05 | theorbtwo | Then again, maybe not. 2016 is a long time away, having him on your side might do more harm then good by then. |
| 16:56.23 | theorbtwo | Oh, to the *selection ceremony*? The decision got made long before then. |
| 16:56.35 | kdtresh | they voted today |
| 16:56.40 | kdtresh | chicago was eliminated in the first round |
| 16:56.44 | kdtresh | then tokyo |
| 16:56.52 | kdtresh | and rio beat madrid in the final vote |
| 16:57.28 | kdtresh | if madrid won, there would have been three european games in a row |
| 16:58.05 | theorbtwo | kdtresh: How long before you voted for president did you decide? |
| 16:58.25 | NightHawkTheSane | .. are we really so selfish as to think of things in terms of "three european games in a row"? |
| 16:59.14 | theorbtwo | NightHawkTheSane: Huh. I interpreted it the other direction -- that maybe the IOC voted against madrid to spread the wealth. |
| 16:59.25 | kdtresh | theorbtwo: in this last election? i went into the booth with the intention to vote for "none of these candidates" |
| 16:59.27 | NightHawkTheSane | thats equally my point, though |
| 17:00.06 | theorbtwo | OK, you make a bad example, then. |
| 17:00.29 | theorbtwo | Statistics seem to show that most people didn't, they made up their mind a long time before the vote. |
| 17:00.32 | NightHawkTheSane | is it really right to judge the value of a location because of past events tehre? |
| 17:01.03 | NightHawkTheSane | (barring the obvious holding the olympics in the same city in a short time kind of thing) |
| 17:01.21 | kdtresh | theorbtwo: but if someone made up their mind to vote for tokyo, what do they do when tokyo is eliminated? they vote again, for someone else |
| 17:02.10 | kdtresh | so you can go in knowing who you're going to vote for, but you may be voting for someone else in subsequent rounds |
| 17:02.27 | kdtresh | you may end up having to choose between your #3 and #4 candidates |
| 17:02.31 | theorbtwo | kdtresh: You've got a point there. OTOH, it's a fairly small panel, yes, and they know they are making a huge decision, I expect they worked out a priority order in their head. |
| 17:02.39 | kdtresh | in which case, the result is hardly a foregone conclusion |
| 17:03.06 | theorbtwo | kdtresh: Yeah, but you knew they were your #3 and #4 choices. You aren't going to vote for your #4 choice instead on a whim. |
| 17:03.33 | kdtresh | no, but when you get to that point, you don't know what other people's 3 & 4 are |
| 17:03.36 | kdtresh | they may be reversed |
| 17:03.55 | theorbtwo | Of course. |
| 17:04.07 | kdtresh | people were saying, going in, that it was rio vs chicago |
| 17:04.21 | Lopeppeppy | The games are a huge political engine, of course it's all political crap in the selection process. :) |
| 17:04.30 | kdtresh | lopeppeppy: completely |
| 17:04.35 | theorbtwo | That doesn't make it more likely that the result hinged on if Obama's kids were in attendence that morning. |
| 17:06.40 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, kids are cute, but not necessary for deciding that shipping people to the US right now is a sucky move. |
| 17:07.12 | theorbtwo | doesn't think 2016 qualifies as right now, but sees your point. |
| 17:08.42 | Lunessa | The Summer Games are always a huge deal. Probably a bigger deal than they honestly rate. |
| 17:11.36 | Fisker | obama is gonna blame us :( |
| 17:11.43 | theorbtwo | "Us"? |
| 17:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | It's your fault, Fisker, he should blame you. |
| 17:11.50 | zenzelezz | olympics are all a way to show off your country |
| 17:12.10 | theorbtwo | I think your city much more then your country, really, but yes. |
| 17:13.33 | Lunessa | Honestly, if the Olympics were to be held in Chicago, Chicago would be asking Congress for money. |
| 17:14.09 | Lunessa | Money that would be entirely wasted building sports and hotel facilities in Chicago. |
| 17:14.17 | theorbtwo | Well, of course they would. |
| 17:14.33 | theorbtwo | That's the done thing these days, asking Congress for money. |
| 17:14.37 | Lunessa | Because the Illinois economy is screwed. |
| 17:14.52 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/you-make-bunny-cry.jpg |
| 17:14.56 | Lunessa | And having the games in 2016 isn't going to fix it. |
| 17:15.19 | theorbtwo | The London 2012 games are going to be rather screwy too, and only partly because of that. |
| 17:16.36 | Lunessa | You spend billions on facilities that get one really BIG use, then never pay for themselves. |
| 17:16.58 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/rawwrr.jpg |
| 17:17.19 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/cute-bunny-stealing-cookie.jpg |
| 17:17.48 | Lunessa | mikma: Bring me a cheeseburger now and no one gets hurt. |
| 17:18.31 | theorbtwo | Lunessa: Yeah, you hope that the money those users bring in -- which is mostly coming from the outside -- pays for it. |
| 17:19.12 | theorbtwo | That is, not just your cut of the money they spend on tickets, but on hotel rooms, and food & drink, and things they do when they don't have events to be at. |
| 17:19.31 | theorbtwo | OTOH, Munich's still renting out the facilites from it's olympics. |
| 17:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | The facilities at Lake Placid are still in use... that was a good investment from the state. |
| 17:20.45 | Lunessa | Right. And it's a 1-time bump to the local economy. Those facilities will be with you for 20+ years or so, but we're talking about Chicago - which recently demolished Shay (sp?) Stadium. |
| 17:20.46 | batbot | Lunessa, Hay, Say, Shad, Shady, Shag, Shah, Shaky, Sham, Shat, Shaw, Shy, Sh ay, Sh-ay, Slay, Spay, Stay, Sway, S hay, S-hay. |
| 17:21.25 | theorbtwo | That's a very good point. |
| 17:21.54 | theorbtwo | Munich's was 37 years ago, BTW. |
| 17:21.54 | Lunessa | Granted the place was ancient, but it wasn't maintained well and didn't draw crowds. What's Chicago going to do with huge sporting stadia? |
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| 17:24.53 | Lunessa | And Rio it is. |
| 17:26.30 | Lopeppeppy | The facilities at Placid have declined, but they do keep some of them open still, and maintained for the tourist season. |
| 17:26.47 | Lopeppeppy | I have no idea how on earth they ever got people all the way up to Placid in the first place! |
| 17:30.24 | Lunessa | Lake Plastic and Mt Saranwrap? |
| 17:36.57 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 17:37.00 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much. |
| 17:37.21 | Lopeppeppy | the luge runs are still popular with tourists, I understand, although they don't start at the top by any means. |
| 17:37.39 | Ackis | ~google wheretobuycyanide |
| 17:37.51 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: they are, you start about half way down |
| 17:38.20 | Ackis | the olympic park in calgary has all that nifty stuff |
| 17:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | but I bet you have more roads to get there. maybe an airport or something |
| 17:38.47 | kdtresh | i think the village at squaw still gets use |
| 17:39.30 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: the one in calgary? it's on a main route in the middle of the city |
| 17:39.40 | Ackis | I wonder how the vancouver olympics will be |
| 17:39.48 | Ackis | I hope they suck since vancouver sucks |
| 17:40.00 | kdtresh | ackis: but what do you really think? |
| 17:40.15 | Ackis | huh? |
| 17:40.51 | Ackis | apparently I have 67 followers on twitter... I need 2 more to be really cool |
| 17:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | Tell me your twitter, I may give you 68. :P |
| 17:42.21 | Ackis | http://www.twitter.com/jpasula |
| 17:42.58 | Ackis | most of my twits make me look like a twit |
| 17:43.02 | Ackis | hah see what I did there? |
| 17:43.57 | NightHawkTheSane | .. its not just your twitter that does that, i'm sure. ;) |
| 17:44.13 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/37883/bug-174037/ |
| 17:44.20 | Lopeppeppy | Mine is much more normal. About making my cats into slippers, etc. |
| 17:44.39 | Ackis | my stupid cat last night tried to get the sock off my foot |
| 17:44.57 | Tepel | He's telling you something |
| 17:45.01 | Ackis | and then the other stupid cat found a bag of cat nip somewhere and they were walking around with it in its mouth |
| 17:45.11 | Ackis | little bugger got himself stoned, and 2 of the other cats |
| 17:45.33 | Ackis | but it was funny as hell seeing a cat walk around with a bag of cat nip |
| 17:45.42 | Ackis | gf thought the cat found my "stash" lol |
| 17:46.02 | theorbtwo | Ackis: Uh-huh. And you wouldn't do the same if you found out your girlfriend had a bag full of pot, and was holding out on you? |
| 17:46.33 | Ackis | lol |
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| 17:46.42 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 17:47.42 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 17:47.51 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 17:48.06 | theorbtwo | acker |
| 17:48.17 | theorbtwo | fiskis |
| 17:48.29 | Fisker | theorbtwo |
| 17:48.29 | Lopeppeppy | ficus |
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| 17:49.47 | Ackis | that's what Fisker and I will be naming our child while he trolls you all |
| 17:50.04 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 17:53.01 | Fisker | you're dead to me Ackis |
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| 17:53.49 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/ |
| 17:53.52 | Fisker | if you wan to live |
| 17:54.00 | Tepel | I despise steam! |
| 17:54.30 | Tepel | "It is not possible to transfer games between accounts" my ass! |
| 17:54.35 | Ackis | Fisker: get the 4 pack |
| 17:54.39 | Bruners | what is the best place to farm frostweave cloth at 70+ ? |
| 17:55.21 | Tepel | Auction House I'd say |
| 17:55.35 | Fisker | selling used games is the cancer killing gaming |
| 17:55.42 | Kraps | i kind of want to buy civ 4 even though i suck at it |
| 17:56.02 | Tepel | I bought it, I can do with it whatever the hell I want |
| 17:56.05 | Ackis | Fisker: used games is win |
| 17:56.11 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.13 | Tepel | That's the whole point of me buying it |
| 17:56.28 | Lunessa | Bruners: below 80? if you're a tailor any humanoids, I'd go with howling fjord. If you're 80 - the cultists up by the toruney grounds. |
| 17:56.33 | Tepel | And the whole software licensing issue is BS |
| 17:57.37 | Tepel | It's the same with modding a console, who are they to prevent my from modifying something I bought? |
| 17:57.47 | Tepel | s/my/me/ |
| 18:00.10 | Lunessa | Sure, void my warranty and refuse to provide service, but if I hack my XBox (original) to make it a cheap Linux box, so what? |
| 18:00.24 | Tepel | Exactly |
| 18:00.43 | Fisker | that's what they're doing durr |
| 18:00.47 | Tepel | But then again, when you brick it by flashing it with your pushed firmware you'd better fix it |
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| 18:01.45 | robotusch | Fisker, hvad troller du? |
| 18:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Any solution for people who got bricked by the update? |
| 18:02.04 | Fisker | din mor robotusch |
| 18:02.04 | robotusch | need someone to form a raid with me :( |
| 18:02.05 | Fisker | btw |
| 18:02.05 | Tepel | Only if you haven't modified it |
| 18:02.06 | Fisker | L4D2 |
| 18:02.10 | robotusch | old |
| 18:02.26 | Ackis | Fisker: I think I'm getting L4D2 on the console not the PC |
| 18:02.28 | Ackis | ;) |
| 18:02.45 | Fisker | you're a faggot |
| 18:02.56 | ScytheBlade1 | PC ftw |
| 18:04.01 | Ackis | needs more gamer score! |
| 18:07.06 | Ackis | hi Torhal |
| 18:07.07 | Ackis | how r u? |
| 18:07.10 | Ackis | pls code 4 me |
| 18:08.44 | Ackis | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8285954.stm |
| 18:09.17 | Torhal | Ackis: I'm decent. |
| 18:09.21 | Torhal | Ackis: And I already am :P |
| 18:10.03 | Ackis | "The Public Health prize went to Elena Bodnar of Illinois, who designed and patented a bra that can be quickly converted into a pair of gas masks, one for the brassiere wearer and one to be given to some needy bystander." |
| 18:10.04 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:13.53 | robotusch | wat |
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| 18:15.41 | Tepel | "Quickly, hand me one of your brassiers! I smell a foul air!" |
| 18:18.48 | Lopeppeppy | One of a multiple-noun? *laugh* |
| 18:19.14 | Torhal | "Quickly! I wish to see boobs, and live to tell about it!" |
| 18:20.36 | Lunessa | Hey, if women's undergarments can lift, support, separate and prevent me from inhaling toxic gases, then I'm all for it. Beats that guy in Japan who built himself super-air-bag underpants. |
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| 18:24.05 | Lopeppeppy | Just put your nose here and sniff? |
| 18:25.16 | zenzelezz | sheesh peppy... you know there are people in this channel that would |
| 18:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | is dangerously bored |
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| 18:27.38 | NightHawkTheSane | s/ly bored// ;P |
| 18:28.02 | Tepel | Don't blame me for having a crappy english spelling! |
| 18:28.41 | Tepel | Or even grammatical errors like the one I just made |
| 18:29.34 | Tepel | If the point get's across it's fine by me |
| 18:29.37 | Lopeppeppy | I can picture James Bond whipping Moneypenny's bra off her to defend them against the vicious SPECTRE agents. |
| 18:31.33 | Ackis | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/6247308/Jennifer-will-you-marry-me-A-marriage-proposal-on-telephone-poles-turns-sour.html |
| 18:32.21 | Tepel | troll |
| 18:33.37 | zenzelezz | gnome |
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| 18:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | That answer would always be "no". If he doesn't know me well enough not to embarass me in public, he ain't worth my time. |
| 18:36.40 | Ackis | did you read all the signs? :P |
| 18:37.45 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's flash-based somehow, I could only see the first one, nothing to click on in that link. |
| 18:38.32 | Tepel | No, menu on the right side |
| 18:38.55 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: It's poor page design. On the right, under "view this gallery". |
| 18:39.00 | Lopeppeppy | either my noscript or my flashblockers don't make those clickable. Work computer an be pretty rabid. :) |
| 18:39.10 | Tepel | Have both those addons |
| 18:39.12 | Tepel | works fine |
| 18:39.21 | Tepel | I even have cookiemonster |
| 18:39.26 | Tepel | Cookiemonster is awesome |
| 18:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | Someone tell me the secret, or it will burn in me forever and make me a twisted woman. |
| 18:39.59 | Tepel | Huh? |
| 18:40.25 | Lopeppeppy | As in, I'm missing some joke in the web page, and I want someone to tell me! |
| 18:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles zenzelezz, he shares! |
| 18:40.32 | Tepel | There is no joke |
| 18:40.34 | Tepel | just a bad troll |
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| 18:47.18 | Ycarene | I want to create a mod that allows you to type a specified hotkey, and then afterwards type a set of characters to make special characters emulating the behavior of the unix compose key, is that possible? |
| 18:47.48 | Ycarene | So, typing <keybind> the <c> and <,> would get you ç |
| 18:48.32 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:48.37 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: did you ever figure it out? |
| 18:49.09 | Ackis | Jennifer / Will you marry me / Just kidding / i'm breaking up with you / You have 6 days to move out |
| 18:49.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I got it. Very cold. |
| 18:49.48 | Ycarene | ⬠|
| 18:51.04 | Fisker | i will kill you Ackis |
| 18:59.10 | Lunessa | grrrr... government sites that fail to work and are critical. |
| 18:59.23 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, grrrr on that. |
| 19:00.25 | Lunessa | Stupid thing keeps timing out. |
| 19:11.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yesterday was my "timing out day", drove me crazy |
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| 19:17.46 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/202555800 |
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| 19:21.16 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/202555800 |
| 19:22.21 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2009/10/parrot-amorous-cameramans-head/ |
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| 19:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.05 | Fisker | slaps NightHawkTheSane around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:31.48 | NightHawkTheSane | clearly, i needed that Fisker |
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| 19:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | best part of working at home: pizza with crown & coke for lunch. |
| 19:40.36 | Lopeppeppy | Morgans and coke, and chinese. |
| 19:41.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not a big rum person. but to each their own. sounds great :) |
| 19:41.41 | Lunessa | NHTS - I'd skip the pizza. |
| 19:42.02 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i'm genuinely hungry, and it's great pizza. ;) |
| 19:42.13 | Lopeppeppy | No such thing. |
| 19:42.19 | Lopeppeppy | wrinkles her nose. Tomatos! |
| 19:43.07 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man. i looooooooove tomatos |
| 19:43.26 | NightHawkTheSane | besides, there's pizza without tomatos, or tomato based sauce. |
| 19:43.35 | NightHawkTheSane | a nice white pizza, or pesto pizza. |
| 19:44.32 | Lopeppeppy | If I want garlic bread, I make garlic bread. Is not pizza. |
| 19:44.53 | NightHawkTheSane | *gasp* a white pizza is far from garlic bread. ;) |
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| 19:45.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 19:45.40 | Lopeppeppy | Blech. |
| 19:45.46 | Lopeppeppy | Ham sammich beats it all. |
| 19:46.03 | Shirik | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 19:46.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ew, ham |
| 19:46.34 | Thunder_Child | no Lopeppeppy, no |
| 19:47.04 | Lopeppeppy | heya, Shirik. Hoppy Fry-daze |
| 19:47.15 | Shirik | I'm eating fries right now actually |
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| 19:47.26 | Ackis | fry day... I get it |
| 19:47.36 | sacarasc | Is it possible to release/resurrect without using a mouse? |
| 19:47.53 | Shirik | I used to |
| 19:47.56 | Shirik | well, release |
| 19:48.00 | Shirik | probably still possible |
| 19:48.10 | Shirik | I had a mod for BGs which would always release me immediately on death |
| 19:48.35 | sacarasc | Don't suppose you know how? Friend is without mouse temporarily... |
| 19:48.54 | foxlit | Look up the API call that contains something like release. |
| 19:48.55 | Lopeppeppy | buy your friend a mouse, it will probably take the same amount of time to set up, in the end. :) |
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| 19:49.16 | sacarasc | Lopeppeppy: It's almost 2100 here, there's not many places to get a mouse from. |
| 19:49.22 | foxlit | [Your ability to play without a mouse is severely diminished anyway] |
| 19:49.43 | sacarasc | Yeah, he spilt coke on it about an hour ago... |
| 19:50.00 | foxlit | /run RepopMe(); |
| 19:50.07 | foxlit | [Though that sounds wrong] |
| 19:50.21 | Ackis | zomg new achievement and pets in 3.3!! ahhh |
| 19:50.54 | Shirik | foxlit: Probably one of the first functions ever created |
| 19:51.26 | Shirik | A game where it's impossible to resurrect yourself would be quite dull indeed |
| 19:52.01 | foxlit | Shirik: pros never die :) |
| 19:52.09 | Shirik | fools never die too |
| 19:52.23 | Lopeppeppy | I love how pretentious the student newspaper is around here. |
| 19:52.41 | sacarasc | Hardcore WoW... See who can down some raid bosses without dying at all. |
| 19:52.41 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7kxI7eA8EA |
| 19:52.46 | Lopeppeppy | "Until then, students need to be forthcoming with their professors about the verity and severity of their illnesses..." |
| 19:53.04 | Shirik | sacarasc: I would have no problem with agame like that |
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| 19:53.25 | Shirik | game I used to play would cause 20% XP loss when you died. And if you spent the entire day leveling, you were lucky if you got 3% or so |
| 19:53.27 | foxlit | It wouldn't be fun, unfortunately. |
| 19:53.34 | Shirik | actually, it was quite fun |
| 19:53.43 | Shirik | it attracted a different kind of player |
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| 19:53.54 | Shirik | This was a PVP-centric game |
| 19:54.06 | foxlit | Inflict-pain-on-other-people kind of game? |
| 19:54.06 | Shirik | (NB: There was no XP loss to a PvP death, only PvE) |
| 19:54.26 | Lopeppeppy | Screw your neighbor kind of game |
| 19:54.47 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: A subgenre, I see :) |
| 19:54.59 | Shirik | It was very fun |
| 19:55.05 | Shirik | And my favorite part |
| 19:55.08 | Shirik | 1v1, you cannot kill someone |
| 19:55.14 | Shirik | even if they're like 8 levels below you |
| 19:55.17 | Shirik | you're never going to succeed |
| 19:55.23 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:55.24 | Shirik | It forced you to have a strong team |
| 19:55.30 | Fisker | you |
| 19:55.35 | Shirik | Your team needs to be very coordinated, focused |
| 19:55.41 | Fisker | you |
| 19:55.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Fisker] by Shirik |
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| 19:57.50 | Ackis | Fisker: do you have twitter? |
| 19:58.40 | Kraps | so i has opened an unidentified exe i had downloaded LIKE AN ASS |
| 19:58.59 | foxlit | And it did turn out to be just a photo of the ceiling cat? |
| 19:59.22 | Shirik | Kraps: It was nice knowing you |
| 19:59.25 | Lopeppeppy | silly kraps |
| 19:59.28 | Kraps | spiked cpu usage to 100% |
| 19:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, you're screwed |
| 19:59.43 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 19:59.45 | Fisker | i would rather die |
| 19:59.46 | Kraps | Shirik: dont say that :( |
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| 20:00.57 | foxlit | "Almost prime numbers are the non-prime numbers which are divisible by only a single prime number." |
| 20:01.11 | foxlit | One has to wonder what the result of that division would be. |
| 20:01.14 | Lopeppeppy | Is that like almost pregnant? |
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| 20:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | Here's your consolation prize? |
| 20:02.10 | Ackis | hey |
| 20:02.12 | Ackis | any news |
| 20:02.14 | Ackis | about |
| 20:02.15 | Ackis | the new |
| 20:02.17 | Ackis | forst emblems? |
| 20:02.20 | Ackis | *friost |
| 20:02.23 | Ackis | **frost |
| 20:02.31 | Kraps | ***forest |
| 20:02.32 | foxlit | not |
| 20:02.33 | foxlit | that |
| 20:02.34 | foxlit | I |
| 20:02.36 | foxlit | heard of. |
| 20:02.47 | Ackis | ok |
| 20:02.48 | Ackis | thanks |
| 20:02.50 | Ackis | for answering |
| 20:02.50 | Lopeppeppy | behave guys, that's really annoying. |
| 20:02.52 | Ackis | much appreciated |
| 20:03.21 | Ackis | why? |
| 20:04.26 | Kraps | can i have 2 virus scans running at the same time? |
| 20:04.54 | Torhal | Kraps: Much hilarity ensues. |
| 20:05.01 | foxlit | What if they find each other? |
| 20:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, but if they try to sanitize the same file, your computer will implode and clean your apartment |
| 20:05.13 | foxlit | Will they sort of recurse into scanning each others' scanners? |
| 20:05.18 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: a cage match ensues. |
| 20:05.23 | Torhal | Dude, if that were true, I'd re-install once a week |
| 20:05.38 | Torhal | BOOM! Clean apartment. Clean OS. |
| 20:05.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Torhal: and imploded computer, probably not worth buying new hardware :P |
| 20:06.03 | Torhal | Damn it. |
| 20:06.07 | Torhal | My dreams. |
| 20:06.09 | Torhal | Dashed. |
| 20:06.18 | NightHawkTheSane | mission: accomplished. |
| 20:06.19 | Thunder_Child | meh, get one of them 50$ computers |
| 20:06.29 | Thunder_Child | 50$ for a clean room isnt bad |
| 20:07.19 | Ackis | http://www.stfj.net/art/2009/loselose/ |
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| 20:09.18 | foxlit | "3Guys1Contest" |
| 20:09.43 | Lopeppeppy | eeew |
| 20:09.55 | foxlit | ?- unify(P, NP) |
| 20:12.30 | Thunder_Child | no wonder this is done near west hollywood http://www.beverlycenter.com/infodesk/media/12711.html |
| 20:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | why is most of the ad girls and candy canes? |
| 20:14.12 | Thunder_Child | "He will appear with the Candy Cane Girls - and a high energy, world class aerialist performance" |
| 20:14.20 | Thunder_Child | i saaume |
| 20:14.23 | Thunder_Child | assume* |
| 20:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | yeah, but it's not THEIR audition. *laugh* |
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| 20:25.19 | NightHawkTheSane | would murder someone for a better computer desk |
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| 20:29.31 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:29.31 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:30.41 | sacarasc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a frozen haddock. |
| 20:31.22 | Shirik | Just downloaded this document for some software we got |
| 20:31.30 | Shirik | "Getting Started with NI Requirements Gateway" |
| 20:31.36 | Shirik | 136 pages of "getting started" |
| 20:34.46 | mikma | http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/ |
| 20:35.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I already have a 4-pack preorder |
| 20:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 20:35.44 | Fisker | old mikma |
| 20:35.46 | Fisker | also old ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:35.47 | Fisker | btw |
| 20:35.56 | sacarasc | Fisker is old. |
| 20:36.35 | Thunder_Child | slaps Fisker around with a Riemann rearrangement theorem |
| 20:36.57 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:37.31 | Fisker | http://i35.tinypic.com/2lw7w3d.jpg <-the cancer that's killing gaming |
| 20:38.41 | Thunder_Child | Fisker <-- the cancer thats killing sane people |
| 20:39.07 | Fisker | no Thunder_Child |
| 20:39.27 | sacarasc | Over 200 euros for a train sim? |
| 20:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | !g one euro one dollar steam group |
| 20:39.48 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Dollar hits 1-year low vs. euro, yen bounces - Sep. 17, 2009 <http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/17/markets/dollar.reut/index.htm> |
| 20:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 20:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | not what I wanted :( |
| 20:41.01 | Fisker | ownt ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:41.07 | sacarasc | Also... |
| 20:41.09 | *** part/#wowuidev sacarasc (i=sacarasc@xmms2/bitch/sacarasc) |
| 20:41.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/1e1us |
| 20:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 20:46.01 | mikma | scytheblade1: heh, i'm thinking about buying it now |
| 20:46.06 | mikma | scytheblade1: now sure will i |
| 20:46.19 | mikma | not* |
| 20:46.32 | ScytheBlade1 | group exclusive servers are absolutely awesome |
| 20:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | but the latest server update bugs the exclusivity |
| 20:47.48 | ScytheBlade1 | So now my server is public :/ |
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| 20:51.53 | mikma | scytheserver ^^ |
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| 21:01.55 | mikma | scytheblade1: there, bought it. |
| 21:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | mikma: grats |
| 21:02.42 | ScytheBlade1 | now to sit around for a month and a half |
| 21:04.30 | mikma | ya :I |
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| 21:05.17 | Kraps | "Trojan horse Dropper.Generic.AUJW" |
| 21:05.26 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:05.56 | Kraps | hey, i dont need a slap on top of that |
| 21:06.26 | Fisker | you deserve it |
| 21:07.04 | Kraps | yeah (hangs head) |
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| 21:08.14 | Fisker | hangs self* |
| 21:08.19 | Fisker | fixed |
| 21:08.30 | Kraps | ... |
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| 21:13.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
| 21:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | hm |
| 21:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | if I left my server public |
| 21:14.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It would take about 150GB/month |
| 21:15.34 | Fisker | slaps ScytheBlade1 around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:16.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd let you play on it Fisker, but you just slapped me |
| 21:16.37 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 21:16.59 | mikma | oh can i play with you |
| 21:17.18 | ScytheBlade1 | sure! |
| 21:17.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You didn't slap me |
| 21:17.35 | Kraps | what server? |
| 21:17.37 | Fisker | ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:17.42 | ScytheBlade1 | l4d |
| 21:17.42 | Fisker | i just died in your arms tonight :( |
| 21:17.54 | ScytheBlade1 | so I got slapped by a zombie? |
| 21:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That is impressive |
| 21:18.17 | mikma | scytheblade1: btw, you love what difficulty le el? |
| 21:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | advanced |
| 21:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | the max difficulty is painful with even one less than optimal player |
| 21:19.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And the people I play with, there is always one person who goes and runs off away :/ |
| 21:19.15 | mikma | aye hehe |
| 21:19.24 | mikma | advanced is cool, expert is... horrible |
| 21:20.01 | Kraps | whats so great about l4d? |
| 21:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got to the last level on expert on every valve campaign but |
| 21:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Then it all goes terrible |
| 21:20.09 | mikma | scytheblade1: i'm usually a player who makes sure the last person comes |
| 21:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: it is -amazing- |
| 21:20.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Something about a group of people running down a few thousand zombies with various weapons |
| 21:21.24 | Arrowmaster | i still cant get sound working in source games with wine |
| 21:22.07 | mikma | arrowmaster: good news, valve has hired linux coders =) |
| 21:22.15 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 21:22.27 | Arrowmaster | for what? |
| 21:22.27 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: what do you do in multiplayer? |
| 21:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe they'll take the server out of the previous decade |
| 21:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: blast zombies |
| 21:22.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: with various weapons |
| 21:23.01 | Arrowmaster | source engine doesnt even support opengl so i see a native client being impossible without rewriting the engine |
| 21:23.34 | mikma | arrowmaster: dont know, rumors are that penguins want to play, too |
| 21:25.08 | foxlit | http://www.stfj.net/art/2009/loselose/ |
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| 21:40.33 | Thunder_Child | they are still selling TF2 for 20$...i dont get it. thats twice as much as it should be solf for |
| 21:40.38 | Thunder_Child | sold* |
| 21:41.16 | Arrowmaster | atleast they are selling it |
| 21:41.27 | Arrowmaster | when console games get that low the stores stop selling them |
| 21:41.47 | Thunder_Child | steam doesnt really have overhead |
| 21:42.28 | Arrowmaster | well not physical overhead |
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| 21:46.00 | zenzelezz | tickles Lopeppeppy |
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| 21:46.06 | mikma | mmmmmm |
| 21:46.13 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi. |
| 21:46.25 | Fisker | no |
| 21:46.26 | Fisker | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 21:46.40 | mikma | if i wouldnt be in such a rush to see all the scrubs, i would headshoot some zombies |
| 21:47.05 | Lopeppeppy | tsk tsk, priorities |
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| 21:50.55 | Tepel | http://store.steampowered.com/app/7940/ <-- are they serious? 50⬠?? |
| 21:51.05 | Tepel | Now that's overpriced |
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| 21:53.11 | Fisker | hah |
| 21:53.14 | Fisker | you should be happy |
| 21:53.35 | Kraps | http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott |
| 21:55.04 | Tepel | happy how Fisker ? |
| 21:55.36 | Fisker | i believe it was 64.99⬠|
| 21:55.43 | mikma | bleh |
| 21:55.45 | Fisker | and that was even a significant time after it's release |
| 21:56.03 | mikma | too bad the new maps didnt load =/ |
| 21:56.07 | Tepel | I can get a hardcopy of that game for 30⬠|
| 21:56.11 | mikma | i would have capped some zombies |
| 21:59.29 | Arrowmaster | its probably activision setting the price |
| 21:59.40 | Fisker | well activision blizzard is the cancer killing gaming Tepel |
| 21:59.48 | Tepel | hehe |
| 22:00.07 | Fisker | knowing them MW2 will probably be 99.99⬠|
| 22:00.11 | Tepel | Well, it's mostly activision that's the cancer |
| 22:00.43 | Arrowmaster | seriously have you seen all guitar hero clones activision is pushing out 2009Q4 |
| 22:00.59 | Fisker | true Tepel |
| 22:01.09 | Fisker | I'm still waiting for Air Guitar Hero |
| 22:01.40 | Tepel | There was a story not too long ago about the CEO of activision |
| 22:01.44 | Arrowmaster | GHsmashHits, GH5, GHvanHalen, DJhero, BandHero, |
| 22:01.52 | Arrowmaster | theres more i think |
| 22:02.02 | Arrowmaster | and those are all on 360/ps3 |
| 22:02.05 | Fisker | air guitar hero |
| 22:04.16 | Tepel | :) |
| 22:07.58 | Tepel | http://www.gamespot.com/news/6226758.html |
| 22:08.20 | Tepel | there was the article I was looking for |
| 22:08.38 | Fisker | goodbye cruel jnwhiteh |
| 22:09.21 | Fisker | oh god Ackis |
| 22:09.30 | Fisker | they'll only send out invitations each weekend now :o |
| 22:10.06 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 22:10.13 | Fisker | shh jnwhiteh |
| 22:11.37 | Fisker | i will sleep jnwhiteh |
| 22:11.48 | Fisker | and you can't stop me |
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| 22:12.58 | t0xic4venger | anyone willing to help me with a saved variables problem? |
| 22:13.11 | Kraps | http://translationparty.com/#4591112 |
| 22:13.37 | Lopeppeppy | lay out your issue, t0xic4venger. Use the pastey in the channel topic if you need to give code. |
| 22:14.29 | t0xic4venger | basicaly im placing a simple counter in my savedvarspercharacter area of the toc, and then loading it when I get the addon_loaded event with my addon as the arg. |
| 22:14.51 | t0xic4venger | if it is nil i set it to 0, otherwise I leave it alone. |
| 22:15.03 | t0xic4venger | but when i logout or resetui, it always goes to 0. |
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| 22:16.05 | t0xic4venger | according to the wiki im doing the saved variable correctly, but it just wont persist |
| 22:16.28 | Lopeppeppy | You sure your directory isn't write-protected? |
| 22:17.07 | t0xic4venger | pretty sure, since it is in the same directory as the rest of my addons. |
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| 22:18.17 | Lopeppeppy | Then something's not right in your code, and you'd have to pastey it to give someone a chance to poke and see. |
| 22:18.43 | Arrowmaster | did you check your WTF dir to see if its even getting saved? |
| 22:19.48 | t0xic4venger | yes, and it isnt |
| 22:20.29 | Arrowmaster | maybe you have a typo in your TOC |
| 22:20.37 | t0xic4venger | i was under the impression that it saved automaticaly when i logged or reloadui, but nothing shows up in the characters saved variables folder. |
| 22:20.51 | Arrowmaster | yeah then you have a typo |
| 22:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | note that if you change your TOC without *restarting WoW entirely* the changes won't be picked up |
| 22:21.48 | ScytheBlade1 | If you added a saved variable without closing WoW, it won't work |
| 22:22.28 | t0xic4venger | Scythe, that might be it. let me check. |
| 22:23.41 | t0xic4venger | yep, that was it. I was assuming that the TOC got reloaded. |
| 22:23.51 | t0xic4venger | *facepalm* |
| 22:24.25 | Dagmar | Yeah, very irritating that you have to exit *all* the way out |
| 22:25.50 | Shirik | icu ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:26.07 | t0xic4venger | im just glad i dont have to compile. I loved interpreted languages sometimes |
| 22:26.30 | Shirik | you do have to compile |
| 22:26.46 | t0xic4venger | well, at runtime |
| 22:27.10 | Shirik | compiling at runtime sounds like JIT to me |
| 22:27.21 | Shirik | Lua is not JITted, it's compiled to bytecode and the bytecode is run |
| 22:29.24 | t0xic4venger | right, but it is compiled at run time right? I guess I meant that im glad I as the coder dont have to make the "executable" and place that in the addon folder. |
| 22:30.58 | Shirik | It really depends on what you mean by "run time" -- it is certainly not the runtime of your addon. The file has to be loaded and compiled separately. And it is only compiled once. Yes, as a software developer you do not have to do anything. |
| 22:33.08 | t0xic4venger | By run time i mean logging into wow, since I get the errors then. So it only recompiles if it detects a difference in the source? |
| 22:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That should take a good 20+ seconds off of my load time |
| 22:37.13 | ScytheBlade1 | No more recount writing 5MB of lua to disk |
| 22:38.18 | Dagmar | It's the same thing perl does |
| 22:38.29 | Dagmar | It just parses all the code at the outset of it's invocation |
| 22:40.39 | Shirik | negative Dagmar |
| 22:40.46 | Shirik | Lua does not compile code when it's about to be run |
| 22:40.52 | Shirik | Lua compiles code when it is told to compile it |
| 22:41.04 | Shirik | compiling and running are two completely different operations |
| 22:49.53 | Dagmar | Perhaps we're having a nomenclature problem then |
| 22:50.10 | Dagmar | When I say 'invocation' I'm talking about when the client fires up and "loads" the scripts |
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| 22:56.59 | NeoTron | so gais, don't hold swine flu parties, ok? it's not a good idea! |
| 22:57.13 | NeoTron | http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/swine-flu-10-things-not-to-do advice #3 |
| 22:57.35 | Dagmar | Don't put strange people in your mouth? |
| 22:58.26 | Dagmar | Oh... |
| 22:58.40 | Dagmar | Yes, unfortunately that's a tradition of questionable merit practiced by parents |
| 22:58.55 | Dagmar | Generally for things that are more innocuous, like Chicken Pox |
| 22:58.58 | NeoTron | swine flu guide for idiots |
| 23:00.06 | Dagmar | I kid you not in rural areas, one kid will come down with the chicken pox, then another, and then if everyone's schedule is free after many parents have talked, they'll throw a party and get as many kids exposed to it as tehy can |
| 23:01.01 | Dagmar | I bit freaking stupid to try that with an illness that can actually kill you |
| 23:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 23:01.18 | A-KO | DON'T ATTEND A SWINE FLU PARTY! |
| 23:01.31 | Lopeppeppy | We did that all the time with chicken pox... but let's not do the flu. :) |
| 23:01.52 | Dagmar | Yeah particularly since this ain't something you can only catch once |
| 23:04.13 | Tuller | I have vague memories of something similar like that being done when I was younger |
| 23:04.42 | Dagmar | For somewhat obvious reasons, parents seldom reveal that "LOL WE MADE YOU FEEL LIKE CRAP FOR DAYS ON PURPOSE!" |
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| 23:06.23 | A-KO | I don't think I was ever subjected to a chicken pox party.... |
| 23:06.32 | A-KO | but I did have them |
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| 23:11.26 | Thunder_Child | i was subjected to other people, wasnt that enough? |
| 23:12.02 | Lopeppeppy | I never had them, despite chicken pox parties, and my sister having them. Now, as an adult, if I should get them... well, that crap is just as deadly to me, if not more so, than the flu. |
| 23:14.24 | Dagmar | Well, left untreated |
| 23:14.48 | Dagmar | They can give you shots and stuff as an adult to kill it before it does certain very small organs in |
| 23:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | If I notice it. With my allergies, I won't immediately say, "OMG rash = plague", I'd say, "well, what crap did the last person use in that dryer, that got all over my clothes" |
| 23:16.22 | Tepel | hmm, how do I detect if the visibility of the helm/cloak has been changed? |
| 23:19.14 | Lopeppeppy | Fringe is a cool show. This guy just totally blew up! |
| 23:19.24 | Dagmar | I love Walter. |
| 23:19.32 | Dagmar | "Let's make some L.S.D.!" |
| 23:20.03 | Thunder_Child | shows have got to stop being 13 ep's. bring back 26! |
| 23:20.58 | Lopeppeppy | 26 would be nice, I miss the MASH days |
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| 23:23.52 | Tepel | Ah, nevermind, I don't need to reinvent the wheel |
| 23:24.56 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, watching now no less. though granted they are 30min shows even the hour ones used to be 26 ep's |
| 23:25.47 | Lopeppeppy | I just want something worth paying for cable again. |
| 23:26.37 | Bruners | anyone playing warlock that got a nice keybinding setup for me ? |
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| 23:30.35 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Agree |
| 23:30.42 | Shirik | The only reason I have cable right now is because it's free |
| 23:31.27 | Thunder_Child | meh, i prefer to download the shows. i have access to cable but i prefer this way. |
| 23:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | I only watch what appears on hulu. |
| 23:43.29 | NeoTron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zlxl1BKfGc Ad that used a clip from a news story where me and my brother were in (I'm in the middle, my brother is closest to the camera)... in 1994 |
| 23:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | Very neat being haunted by your past. :) |
| 23:44.55 | NeoTron | it's actually quite funny |
| 23:45.01 | NeoTron | flashback to the past |
| 23:45.16 | NeoTron | but man did I have stylish hair and glasses then |
| 23:45.16 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:45.40 | Wobin | "EeenTerNet" |
| 23:46.14 | Lopeppeppy | Very sexy tousled teenage hair |
| 23:46.29 | Wobin | totally stylin |
| 23:47.33 | Lopeppeppy | better than my 1194 glasses. |
| 23:50.57 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIoSTbPt_PI |
| 23:51.03 | Wobin | Another Sam Tsui production |
| 23:51.11 | Wobin | He's very good |
| 23:51.14 | Wobin | but still kinda creepy |
| 23:51.33 | Wobin | (And I swear he's like.. checking out his own arse when the main singer walks in) |
| 23:57.14 | Wobin | http://survivingtheworld.net/Recitation29.html |
| 23:57.16 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 23:57.20 | Shirik | bought a candy bar from vending machine |
| 23:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | bad for you. |
| 23:57.51 | Shirik | Total Fat: 8g (12%). Saturated fat: 4g (19%). Sodium: 230mg (10%). Carbohydrates: 45g (15%). |
| 23:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | Uh huh |
| 23:58.24 | NeoTron | sounds good |
| 23:58.30 | Shirik | it iss |
| 23:58.35 | Tuller | hrm, more carbs than usual |
| 23:58.38 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:58.46 | Wobin | the quality of the xkcd books looks.. low =P |
| 23:58.48 | NeoTron | you need just 8 more |
| 23:58.50 | Shirik | it's ok Lopeppeppy I'm drinking water |
| 23:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | oh, well, then, carry on, Shirik. Carry on. |
| 23:59.12 | Wobin | 1/3 fat? |
| 23:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | Who am I to complain, I made cookies |
