| 00:00.26 | foxlit | "seventeen lap runs" are not the daily. |
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| 00:00.42 | Dagmar | Yes but they let you buy every bloody thing possible |
| 00:01.06 | industrial | overachievers. |
| 00:01.14 | industrial | I'll just go and drink real beer! |
| 00:01.23 | Dagmar | Like I said, "Brewmaster" is the one title I wanted |
| 00:01.57 | industrial | I need the title Spliffmaster then, it would suit me more. |
| 00:02.08 | industrial | ^^ |
| 00:02.09 | Lopeppeppy | bad monkey |
| 00:02.15 | Cloudwolf | im just happy with Private Slashu |
| 00:02.39 | Cloudwolf | now im wishing i pvped more before bc came out :P |
| 00:02.44 | industrial | Lopeppeppy: what? perfectly legal where I live! (and I consider it less harmful then alcohol anyway) |
| 00:03.01 | industrial | well perfectly.. awkwardly legal. |
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| 00:04.34 | foxlit | "jumping doesn't make your ram go faster" << Meh. |
| 00:04.41 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 00:04.43 | foxlit | It makes your ram go further per gallon. |
| 00:04.43 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I ping you for a thirdly time.... |
| 00:09.10 | Recluse | is it possible to set a 'margin' for the text within in a ScrollingMessageFrame? |
| 00:10.43 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: Ackis is probably bed-ridden. |
| 00:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | Whyfor? |
| 00:11.01 | Torhal | Something bronchial. |
| 00:11.11 | Lopeppeppy | I gave no permission for slacking off. He's in trouble. |
| 00:11.22 | Torhal | D'oh |
| 00:12.32 | Lopeppeppy | He was awake to make a friend suggestion on FB, but hasn't told me who the heck said personage is. :) I wanna know. I gotta KNOW! |
| 00:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap this is frightening |
| 00:13.31 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-db9qgn99o |
| 00:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | l4d mod, with telletubbies |
| 00:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | No. Will not watch tubbies. |
| 00:15.39 | ScytheBlade1 | check out 2:40 |
| 00:16.28 | industrial | hahaha |
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| 00:34.11 | A-KO | yeah it's awesome |
| 00:34.27 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1: did you see the hl2 mod where the dude replaced all the sounds with noises he made? |
| 00:34.51 | foxlit | /sigh |
| 00:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, that was incredible |
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| 00:35.32 | A-KO | I think the teletubbies thing beats/rivals that though |
| 00:35.37 | foxlit | My "contact" form seems to be getting SEO spam |
| 00:36.05 | foxlit | What's fascinating is that the text includes "just contact us for awesome SEO, promise!" and they include no reply/return address. |
| 00:37.22 | Wobin | foxlit: Clearly you're meant to search for them =P |
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| 00:58.27 | p3lim | Anyone here with an US account that can post something on the official forums for me? |
| 00:58.37 | p3lim | Its an interface request |
| 00:58.41 | p3lim | Pastey of the text here: http://pastey.net/125425 |
| 00:59.22 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd probably have better luck with it returning 1 or 2 |
| 00:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | !api wintergrasp |
| 00:59.25 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'wintergrasp': GetWintergraspWaitTime, CanQueueForWintergrasp |
| 00:59.55 | mikma | i think no-one cares enough to post that |
| 01:06.03 | Dagmar | I care, slightly. |
| 01:06.18 | Dagmar | I just don't see how it matters whether or not a forum post is made on the EU or the US forums |
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| 01:06.35 | Lopeppeppy | People perceive that items are acted on faster in US forums. |
| 01:07.27 | mikma | and, they are stupid |
| 01:07.30 | foxlit | That basically requires them to link their world servers. |
| 01:07.47 | foxlit | At the moment, outland cares not for what happens in Northrend. |
| 01:07.53 | mikma | cause i am pretty sure blizz would have added them if they think they are needed |
| 01:09.02 | mikma | foxlit: what happens in shamowmoon valley, stays, in shadowmoon valley... |
| 01:09.09 | Lopeppeppy | Bliz has added extra things before on player request. |
| 01:09.35 | mikma | yes, but they were good requests |
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| 01:11.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I also think that they'd sooner make it a more generic interface, depending on what they add in cataclysm in terms of world pvp stuff |
| 01:11.50 | mikma | i managed to do both of those requests working in northrend.. its not that hard |
| 01:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | If they have another timer or what have you |
| 01:12.49 | foxlit | I don't think it's a priority. |
| 01:13.03 | smcn | they did announce another WG-like pvp zone for cataclysm |
| 01:13.07 | foxlit | [Not that my opinion is interesting, really] |
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| 01:15.01 | mikma | http://fukung.net/v/1212/ATTC12.jpg |
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| 01:18.32 | Shirik | !quit |
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| 01:20.57 | mikma | ~quit |
| 01:20.57 | purl | No! You quit! |
| 01:22.54 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 01:22.54 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
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| 01:42.32 | Jumpee | Can a button have a fontstring? |
| 01:42.51 | Seerah | of course |
| 01:43.16 | Jumpee | hmmm, ok thanks |
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| 01:55.40 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:55.47 | Wobin | What glyphs do I want as an enh shammy? |
| 01:56.49 | Adys | glyphs that will enhance your spells |
| 01:56.56 | Adys | since you're enhancement. |
| 01:57.09 | Dagmar | Glyph of Untargetability |
| 01:57.24 | Dagmar | Glyph of the Multiboxer |
| 01:57.26 | Wobin | anyone with actual advice? =P |
| 01:57.37 | Wobin | casts around for help |
| 01:57.50 | Adys | try Glyph of Help |
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| 01:57.56 | Wobin | puts that in |
| 01:57.59 | Adys | might help you get the help you need |
| 01:58.03 | Wobin | It doesn't seem to be ignoring you |
| 01:58.05 | Wobin | maybe it's broken |
| 01:58.06 | Lopeppeppy | EJ has nice lists. |
| 01:58.18 | Wobin | EJ is lacking somewhat in the glyph selection for enh shaman |
| 01:59.32 | Lopeppeppy | Then maybe the entire game is lacking. |
| 02:00.52 | Dagmar | ...or perhaps EJ expects people to be able to figure out to glyph what they use the most |
| 02:01.10 | Dagmar | I'm sure there's got to be some class with more than three useful major glyphs |
| 02:01.28 | foxlit | Or at least three equally useless major glyphs |
| 02:01.41 | Dagmar | I think that one's pretty much covered |
| 02:01.41 | Lopeppeppy | EJ usually has opinions about what is best in slot, I'm surprised they have no opinion on glyph |
| 02:02.27 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: Possibly because while you can see someone else's gear easily, glyphs you have to pull up the armory to find an excuse to call someone else a noob |
| 02:03.20 | Lopeppeppy | I wouldn't think that would stop EJ. Usually their opinions are based on huge impressive databases of spell coefficients and dps numbers from obscure boss fights and stuff. |
| 02:04.38 | Adys | thats it |
| 02:04.42 | Adys | tomorrow my screen is dead =/ |
| 02:06.23 | Wobin | are you going to stab it? |
| 02:06.31 | Adys | no, its just in pretty bad shape |
| 02:06.39 | Adys | received some water at some point the past weeks |
| 02:06.44 | Adys | now its dying from the bottomleft |
| 02:06.57 | Dagmar | refrains from comment |
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| 02:32.16 | Thunder_Child | Adys, what are you going to go for next? |
| 02:32.39 | Adys | what screen? |
| 02:32.48 | Adys | the exact same one |
| 02:32.54 | Thunder_Child | no, i mean lunch....yes screen |
| 02:33.00 | Adys | 206bw |
| 02:33.43 | Thunder_Child | Adys, that screen is out of production |
| 02:34.24 | Thunder_Child | i think |
| 02:34.35 | Adys | its still available |
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| 02:48.04 | bleeter | 11:57 < Dagmar> Glyph of the Multiboxer << lolol |
| 03:07.55 | Shirik | ok mod_proxy/mod_rewrite experts |
| 03:07.58 | Shirik | I have an interesting problem |
| 03:09.29 | Shirik | I need http://wiki.foo.com to redirect to http://foo.com:12345/ |
| 03:09.33 | Shirik | that's easy with mod_proxy |
| 03:09.49 | Shirik | er, sorry |
| 03:09.58 | Shirik | http://wiki.foo.com -> http://foo.com:12345/wiki/ |
| 03:10.37 | Shirik | The problem comes in that the server is aware of the /wiki and is trying to build links to /wiki, so the browser then starts trying to go to http://wiki.foo.com/wiki/bar |
| 03:10.51 | Shirik | which then gets translated into http://foo.com:12345/wiki/wiki/bar |
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| 03:18.20 | Dagmar | huh? |
| 03:19.40 | Dagmar | It shouoldn't be applying those to both URLs |
| 03:20.07 | Dagmar | I'm assuming you have the same httpd listning on both ports |
| 03:20.38 | Dagmar | You've defined one or more things globally when you shouldn't have |
| 03:26.56 | Shirik | hm Dagmar? |
| 03:27.01 | Shirik | no that's a propery of the web app itself |
| 03:27.06 | Shirik | it assumes that |
| 03:27.22 | Shirik | or maybe I'm just confused |
| 03:30.27 | batrick | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 03:30.42 | Cloudwolf | shirik your allways confused |
| 03:30.50 | Shirik | batrick |
| 03:30.51 | Shirik | fix my server |
| 03:31.14 | batrick | what's wrong with it |
| 03:31.17 | batrick | i'm sick :( |
| 03:31.26 | ScytheBlade1 | It's gentoo |
| 03:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | rm -rf / |
| 03:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ fixed |
| 03:31.58 | Shirik | already said above batrick |
| 03:32.02 | Shirik | one of my applications is misbehaving |
| 03:33.03 | batrick | uninstall |
| 03:33.56 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:34.14 | Dagmar | Shirik: What webapp? |
| 03:34.21 | Shirik | confluence |
| 03:34.22 | Dagmar | You said mod_rewrite was doing this |
| 03:34.46 | kd3 | wtfs at japan |
| 03:34.55 | kd3 | a 10m high rubber duck on the water in osaka |
| 03:35.04 | kd3 | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxviii/suito-osaka-rubber-duck-project-2.jpg |
| 03:35.07 | kd3 | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxviii/suito-osaka-rubber-duck-project-8.jpg |
| 03:35.15 | kd3 | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxviii/suito-osaka-rubber-duck-project-3.jpg |
| 03:35.24 | kd3 | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxviii/duck-vs-giant-robots.jpg |
| 03:35.30 | Shirik | no I said mod_rewrite was reworking something |
| 03:35.38 | kd3 | is not linking the story itself... decidedly nsfw ads |
| 03:35.43 | Shirik | It normally runs at http://foo.com:12345 |
| 03:35.56 | Shirik | sorry, http://foo.com:12345/ |
| 03:35.58 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:36.03 | Shirik | sorry, http://foo.com:12345/wiki/ |
| 03:36.14 | Shirik | But I want it to be at http://wiki.foo.com/ |
| 03:36.22 | Shirik | so I use mod_proxy to do this |
| 03:36.39 | Shirik | but then it gets this bright idea of deciding to do http://wiki.foo.com/wiki/ |
| 03:36.39 | batrick | How can you profess to want to be a network admin/"engineer" and not have used Nmap? |
| 03:36.45 | Shirik | I've used nmap :/ |
| 03:37.12 | batrick | guy didn't realize his router had a configuration webpage on it's ip:8 |
| 03:37.16 | batrick | ip:80* |
| 03:37.28 | kd3 | tell apache to do a 302 redirect from foo.com/wiki to wiki.foo.com, make sure it's listening on wiki.foo.com and have mediawiki only believe it's on wiki.foo.com |
| 03:37.43 | kd3 | ? |
| 03:37.50 | batrick | when I BSOD'd his desktop running SMB he gave me the saddest puppy dog face |
| 03:38.57 | Dagmar | @#$@ |
| 03:39.22 | Dagmar | Shirik: Why are you using mod_proxy instead of a simple rewrite? |
| 03:39.25 | batrick | USA is fucked in 20 years when all our old network admins are phased out by our new batch of inept windows server fanbois |
| 03:39.38 | kd3 | batrick; you think? |
| 03:39.40 | Shirik | aren't you supposed to? It's on a different port |
| 03:39.52 | Dagmar | As soon as I can figure out WTF I did to make my own damn apache re-bounce things I'll be able to tell you something more useful |
| 03:39.59 | kd3 | so? I do redirects from 80->443 all the time |
| 03:40.08 | Dagmar | Shirik: Umm... No? You can write anything you like into a 302 redirect |
| 03:40.16 | batrick | kd3: no i'm stating the opposite of how I think. |
| 03:40.20 | Shirik | I don't want the browser to be aware of a redirect |
| 03:40.32 | Shirik | I have no intention of opening that port |
| 03:40.54 | Dagmar | Like, as soon as I find it again I can tell you where, but here, if I just go to http://mythtv.kung.foo it punts me to http://mythtv.kung.foo/mythweb with a 302. |
| 03:41.11 | Dagmar | Okay so you ARE proxying then |
| 03:41.47 | Dagmar | Sounds like you're doing the rewrites on both servers then |
| 03:42.00 | ScytheBlade1 | your app is stupid |
| 03:42.03 | Dagmar | ...probably not what you want |
| 03:42.06 | Zyn | 05:33.03 ( kd3 ) http://www.sankakucomplex.com/wp-content/gallery/misc-images-xxviii/duck-vs-giant-robots.jpg |
| 03:42.17 | Zyn | sweet mother of god , that picture has Balatack & Ramrod |
| 03:42.44 | kd3 | the things found on 2ch beggar belief most of the time |
| 03:43.34 | batrick | oi Shirik what does that program do? |
| 03:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap |
| 03:45.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The malicious ads that people have been mentioning on the WoW forums |
| 03:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | They're real |
| 03:45.27 | Dagmar | No, really? |
| 03:45.29 | kd3 | !? |
| 03:45.30 | Dagmar | Dude |
| 03:45.37 | Dagmar | Yes, they're real |
| 03:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | First one I've seen, just now |
| 03:45.59 | Dagmar | I've been seeing them popping up on sites like Zap2it and NYT for the last month |
| 03:46.06 | Dagmar | Microsoft is finally up and suing some people about it |
| 03:46.23 | Dagmar | Also, they're not "harmless" |
| 03:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | wow there is a second one |
| 03:46.32 | Dagmar | THey do not always give IE users the same payload |
| 03:46.57 | Dagmar | In FF you can basically just turn off javascript, THEN you can close that tab, and turn javascript back on |
| 03:47.06 | Dagmar | IE users may or may not get handed a nice exploit |
| 03:47.31 | Dagmar | I beat the crap out of one of their happy little sites two weeks ago using TOR just to find out |
| 03:47.43 | Dagmar | The FF agent string got me the same stuff every time. IE did not |
| 03:47.48 | ScytheBlade1 | hm |
| 03:48.10 | Dagmar | Shirik: Look at the [P} code for mod_rewrite directives |
| 03:48.19 | Shirik | yeah I tried that |
| 03:48.20 | Shirik | I had |
| 03:48.33 | Shirik | RewriteRule /confluence/(.*) /$1 [P] |
| 03:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820529204&sid=1 |
| 03:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | the wiki is listed |
| 03:48.59 | kd3 | fuck |
| 03:49.04 | kd3 | fires off an email to the ads team |
| 03:49.23 | Dagmar | Yes, that's how those f**kers got into Zap2it and New York Times |
| 03:49.36 | Dagmar | They actually purported to be Vonage buying ad space with the NYT |
| 03:50.03 | Dagmar | "these CAN get through Firefox with NoScript. scary, I know, but it can and has happened. " <-- this poster is high |
| 03:50.34 | Dagmar | If it's misconfigured, sure. If it's denying script executability, then no. |
| 03:50.58 | Dagmar | Wait... " this method of infection is known as Cross-Site-Scripting, also known as XSS " <-- VERY high |
| 03:54.24 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: One thing you can tell users for sure... |
| 03:54.29 | Dagmar | Stop browsing so much porno |
| 03:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | The moment the wow forums and wowwiki become a high concentration of porno I'll mention it |
| 03:55.18 | Dagmar | A goodly portion of the details I've been getting have been showing the hosts carrying the manchurian ads to be things like imagebam and fapbucket (something like that, can't rememebr) |
| 03:55.55 | Dagmar | ...but clearly it's paying their bills, so they've started branching out by buying adspace as other phony companies |
| 03:55.58 | Arrowmaster | this is why i wont disable adblocking on any site even if i want to support the site, if they cant be 100% sure of the security of their ads then it wont get fucking shown |
| 03:56.07 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Pretty much |
| 03:56.42 | Arrowmaster | the only sites that are 100% sure are the ones that self host the ads on their own domain and insert them using a server side language |
| 03:56.44 | Dagmar | ...and unless they're hosting the ad images themselves, seems like lately no one can guarantee a damn thing |
| 03:56.53 | Arrowmaster | and those perty much always get past adblockers anyway |
| 03:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Ad companies need to fix their crap before this will ever go away |
| 03:59.07 | Dagmar | I don't know if they're still up but the last two I got tipped off about were using secure(cut this out)systemguard.net and search-sc(cut this out)anonline.net |
| 03:59.20 | Dagmar | I don't go to those without having girded your loins, so to speak |
| 03:59.29 | Dagmar | s/I/...so/; |
| 03:59.47 | Dagmar | ...or just go ahead and slap a 127.0.0.1 entry in yer hosts file for 'em |
| 04:02.02 | Dagmar | There's *plenty* more of them up too |
| 04:02.03 | Dagmar | http://www.malwareurl.com/search.php?domain=Gertrude+Dickens&s=Gertrude+Dickens&match=0&rp=50&urls=on&redirs=on&ip=on&reverse=on&as=on |
| 04:02.31 | Dagmar | It's safe to say that Gertrude is probably an alias |
| 04:03.04 | kd3 | hey sbo; do you have any urls of those ads? |
| 04:03.10 | ScytheBlade1 | sadly no |
| 04:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been refreshing and haven't seen another |
| 04:03.33 | Dagmar | You could be at it awhile |
| 04:03.59 | Dagmar | They're damn sneaky about it |
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| 04:04.13 | Dagmar | I get the feeling they probably hide from anything that's made more than a few queries from one IP in a short period of time |
| 04:04.57 | Dagmar | ...this being why I started using TOR to investigate |
| 04:05.45 | Dagmar | When it hits, you'll know it. The ad in question will immediately jump your brwoser to one of the phony "your computer has been infected" pages and start pretending to scan |
| 04:08.27 | Dagmar | kd3: Good luck dealing with your ad suppliers |
| 04:08.32 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@67.166.76.157) |
| 04:08.39 | Dagmar | ...although they might have already ferreted the malvertisers out |
| 04:09.05 | Dagmar | I was really taken aback when I found out they'd actually posed as Vonage when they hit NYT |
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| 04:14.16 | Dagmar | You know, if the Ukraine really wants to make some money, they should host Safari trips |
| 04:14.27 | Dagmar | ...where we get to shoot at people who run scam sites. |
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| 04:21.45 | Bruners | http://visit-x.net/CAMS/US/specials/Rammstein.html?track=Index |
| 04:23.06 | Dagmar | Dude what the hell are you doing |
| 04:23.18 | kd3 | whee. thunder close enough to shake the house... after midnight |
| 04:23.31 | Dagmar | Here I was thinking that was german industrial |
| 04:23.34 | Dagmar | NO. |
| 04:23.49 | Thunder_Child | kd3, i'm not THAT close |
| 04:25.14 | kd3 | ! http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/09/uofc-researcher-dies-after-exposer-to-plague-bacteria.html |
| 04:28.03 | Dagmar | That stuff will never make it through Southside |
| 04:43.42 | Dagmar | Haha |
| 04:43.51 | Dagmar | Okay, so maybe this isn't all that funny |
| 04:44.07 | Dagmar | Bad news... Looks like they managed to get Blizz'a ad provider |
| 04:44.30 | Dagmar | There's a crapton of people posting to General about having been infected from the ad banners Blizz was serving on the forums |
| 04:47.41 | Corrodias | by what mechanism do these advertisements infect the system? |
| 04:48.09 | ScytheBlade1 | javascript redirects to external sites |
| 04:48.15 | ScytheBlade1 | and/or straight up IE exploits |
| 04:48.25 | Corrodias | by what mechanism do those sites infect the system? i want to know if i'm at risk. |
| 04:48.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Patch your crap, disable javascript, you're fine |
| 04:49.03 | Dagmar | ActiveX exploits, as per usual |
| 04:49.10 | Dagmar | INfectious PDF files |
| 04:49.19 | Dagmar | Blatant trojan dropper exes |
| 04:50.00 | Dagmar | I've been watching these f**kers for awhile now, they throw a whole slew of things at the browser, most of which will only affect FF if you're a complete idiot who downloads the proferred file and then clicks on it |
| 04:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I noticed the PDF thing the next page load after the redirection |
| 04:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Patch your adobe reader, too |
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| 04:51.05 | Dagmar | Considering that Javascript is the mechanism they're using to punt the browser to the phony virus checker page and prevent you from leaving it... turn off JavaScript and you shouldn't see much action |
| 04:51.21 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: I finally just uninstalled the damn thing |
| 04:51.26 | kd3 | though people are reporting that it's been getting through noscript |
| 04:51.31 | Dagmar | Anotehr method is to install it but never click the ELUA |
| 04:51.33 | Dagmar | er EULA |
| 04:51.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have a pdf reader installed at all |
| 04:51.43 | Dagmar | kd3: That's because they're idiots |
| 04:52.11 | Dagmar | They've got NoScript set to allow things on their "safe" site and anything that it pulls other objects from, i.e., the ad sites |
| 04:52.24 | Dagmar | ...which just plain defeats the purpose |
| 04:52.43 | Corrodias | what's the option called that does that? |
| 04:52.48 | Corrodias | i want to ensure it's set to the right thing |
| 04:53.03 | Dagmar | Not even sure anymore |
| 04:53.23 | Dagmar | I just have Javascript off unless I need it |
| 04:54.05 | Dagmar | Lemme look it up |
| 04:55.19 | Corrodias | thanks |
| 04:55.22 | Dagmar | "Allow sites opened through bookmarks" would be one thing to leave off |
| 04:55.24 | Corrodias | my whitelist is huge... |
| 04:55.37 | Dagmar | That would be the way to go about it, IMHO |
| 04:55.39 | Dagmar | JUST a whitelies |
| 04:55.42 | Dagmar | er whitelist |
| 04:56.48 | Dagmar | THe defaults should work sanely |
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| 04:58.25 | Dagmar | _ABE_ ... that's the other thing |
| 04:58.52 | Dagmar | I *think* |
| 04:58.53 | Dagmar | argh |
| 04:59.01 | Dagmar | I've been at work for too long |
| 04:59.10 | Corrodias | abe? |
| 04:59.23 | Dagmar | No wait yes that's it |
| 04:59.53 | Dagmar | ABE is anotehr way it can be reconfigured on the fly so you can have NoScript enabled on your site and then set up a special rules file that the site can push to allow other sides to be pulled in |
| 05:00.06 | Dagmar | "Allow sites to push their own rulesets" <-- no |
| 05:00.27 | Dagmar | They have no idea their ad people are compromised, so of course they might well have put in a ruleset allowing their ads to show |
| 05:00.31 | Corrodias | do you know what tab that's on? |
| 05:00.34 | Corrodias | in the options |
| 05:01.47 | Dagmar | The last one |
| 05:02.01 | Dagmar | Advanced, then ABE |
| 05:02.21 | Corrodias | do i want ABE on but the other option off? |
| 05:02.37 | Corrodias | is roleplaying right now and can't investigate the options as thoroughly as he'd like, so he's asking you |
| 05:03.34 | Dagmar | ABE should be fine although a little pointless |
| 05:04.06 | Dagmar | I mean, it's primary intent is to write exception-case rules, but if you're not writing any, and you're not allowing site operators to write any, then it's a bit of a dead issue, eh? |
| 05:10.16 | Wobin | http://www.telltalegames.com/playlikeapirate |
| 05:10.23 | Wobin | less than two hours to get it for free |
| 05:10.27 | Wobin | go go |
| 05:15.23 | Dagmar | Thought about that |
| 05:15.31 | Dagmar | Decided I just didn't care enough |
| 05:15.38 | Dagmar | Not a bad promotion tho |
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| 05:49.34 | Arrowmaster | so im getting a 2000ms ping in wow, i wonder if its because i have bittorrent running too |
| 05:50.13 | Thunder_Child | it all depends |
| 05:50.24 | Thunder_Child | can |
| 05:51.12 | Arrowmaster | i was getting the same lastnight when i got on |
| 05:51.22 | Arrowmaster | i doubt it because im running wow in wine |
| 05:56.09 | Arrowmaster | ok yeah no torrents and its down in the 300ms now |
| 05:56.59 | Bruners | to many connections can break your ms even if you dont upload much |
| 06:01.27 | Taroven | GRR, wtf is going on with this? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/125453 |
| 06:01.43 | Taroven | Errors on multiple lines (commented). >.< |
| 06:06.21 | Bruners | Taroven: i believe the cc table is empty at line 31 thus it cant access [ct][1], and can you write [ct][1] ? |
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| 06:07.20 | Taroven | Bruners: cc table is defined on line 1, cc is a local of classcolor |
| 06:07.41 | Taroven | Gonna try not using that local at all |
| 06:09.07 | Bruners | Taroven: but is it possible to type it like that? cc[ct][1] ? |
| 06:09.42 | Taroven | Bruners: Should be, I do it all the time in other addons. Doublechecking just to be sure though. |
| 06:09.54 | Arrowmaster | im still the fucking ram racing master |
| 06:10.07 | Arrowmaster | i got back to the turnin before the fucking barrel caught up to me |
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| 06:12.14 | Bruners | is wowhead all white now? |
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| 06:12.37 | Taroven | Bruners: Still getting the error on line 54 |
| 06:13.02 | Taroven | Did fix up a positioning oddity with a table that hadn't been defined yet |
| 06:13.13 | Taroven | (not one called in the functions) |
| 06:16.26 | Bruners | Taroven: i dont think it likes that you give c two values |
| 06:17.14 | Bruners | or, that you have to split it up with { } or { } or 1 |
| 06:20.14 | Taroven | Bruners: Wouldn't see why. Mind explaining what you mean? |
| 06:21.35 | Bruners | i dont know, im just shooting blanks |
| 06:21.38 | Bruners | im terrible with tables |
| 06:22.19 | Taroven | Bruners: Not hard at all when you get used to them. They work just like your everyday locals as long as you know the syntax. |
| 06:22.36 | Taroven | I used to be horrible with them, then it kinda clicked one day. |
| 06:23.48 | Bruners | i have my moments :P |
| 06:24.00 | Taroven | =P |
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| 06:36.58 | Taroven | Bruners: Found the error... something to do with the r,g,b,a locals used in getclasscolor |
| 06:37.12 | Taroven | but... still dunno wtf is going on there. |
| 06:37.32 | Bruners | why do you want to change class colors btw? |
| 06:39.02 | Taroven | Not changing the class colors at all. |
| 06:39.52 | Bruners | aha, i just asumed :P |
| 06:40.03 | Taroven | Those functions set the class colors to be used in EventHorizon =P |
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| 06:40.39 | Taroven | ie, imports them from the blizzard or custom tables, then applies alpha adjustment and darkens them a bit if desired |
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| 06:46.58 | Arrowmaster | Jelly__: fuck fuck fuck fuck |
| 06:47.06 | Arrowmaster | Jelly__: in a party with fywen |
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| 06:55.53 | Taroven | WOAH I THINK I GOT IT |
| 06:56.09 | Taroven | ...almost... |
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| 07:08.01 | Bruners | haste: poke |
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| 07:25.17 | Wobin | any brewfest guides? |
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| 07:29.47 | Bruners | Wobin: do you _really_ need a guide? |
| 07:30.07 | Bruners | Wobin: its all done in the same area |
| 07:30.23 | Bruners | except for killing the dude in BRD |
| 07:30.59 | ccox | sigh, "chug and chuck" quest seems fubar'd |
| 07:31.17 | Arrowmaster | what quest? |
| 07:31.21 | Bruners | fubar? pick up the things on the table, click stout robot 5 times and voila |
| 07:31.26 | Arrowmaster | oh that one? |
| 07:31.32 | Arrowmaster | you have to actually aim |
| 07:31.38 | Arrowmaster | or just try targeting the guy |
| 07:31.56 | Bruners | if you have trouble buying stuff from the vendors, try staying behind them |
| 07:32.18 | Bruners | silly troll refused to sell me things unless i was doing him from behind |
| 07:34.55 | Fisker | ohoh |
| 07:35.04 | Fisker | the authenticator token password isn't a one-time one |
| 07:38.12 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: thats been known since they were first available |
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| 07:39.25 | Fisker | fail Arrowmaster |
| 07:39.31 | Fisker | because they ARE one-time passwords |
| 07:39.36 | Arrowmaster | no they arent |
| 07:39.39 | Fisker | There's just a loophole that makes it possible they aren't |
| 07:39.41 | Fisker | yes they are |
| 07:39.56 | Fisker | i've had an authenticator from the day it was released and i tested it on the very first day |
| 07:40.10 | nevcairiel | the loophole with multiple accounts and one authenticator? |
| 07:40.15 | Arrowmaster | login to the game then login to the website with the same token and go remove the authenticator |
| 07:40.22 | Fisker | lol |
| 07:40.33 | Arrowmaster | it was seriously possible to do that |
| 07:40.34 | Fisker | you can't even remove the authenticator without 2 codes |
| 07:40.38 | Fisker | no it wasn't |
| 07:40.57 | Fisker | At first it required a single authenticator password to remove it, now it requires 2 |
| 07:41.15 | Fisker | and you couldn't login to the account management either |
| 07:41.22 | Fisker | Battle.net has changed because of how it works |
| 07:41.27 | Fisker | wihch is the loophole |
| 07:41.57 | Arrowmaster | no there was a loophole at first |
| 07:42.15 | Arrowmaster | somebody in here found it |
| 07:42.23 | Fisker | naw |
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| 07:48.16 | ccox | aiming doesn't help, targetting doesn't help - nobody can hit him |
| 07:48.35 | Zyn | a ninja? |
| 07:50.14 | Arrowmaster | then it must be your server, works fine on mine |
| 07:53.39 | Jerub | the STOUT guy? |
| 07:53.50 | Jerub | yeah, that quest is fubar |
| 07:53.56 | Jerub | find osmeone who can do it, and get in a group with them |
| 08:06.34 | Zyn | that STOUT quest yeah, I just came back 15 minutes later and could do it just fine for some reason :S |
| 08:06.41 | ccox | it seems to work if you stand right on top of the target, and only then |
| 08:06.55 | ccox | same thing for the dark iron attack - you have to stand on them |
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| 08:07.29 | Zyn | fortunely that didn't happen for us, could just stand in range of the brew maiden and hammer rightclick on the mug to toss it |
| 08:41.18 | Arrowmaster | yay violet protodrake |
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| 08:45.04 | Cruciformer | anyone here an XSLT expert? |
| 08:46.06 | Corrodias | no, i've used them like twice... |
| 08:46.53 | Cruciformer | xslt makes my head hurt |
| 08:46.58 | airtonix | what is it you need |
| 08:47.16 | Cruciformer | airtonix: can I pastey? |
| 08:47.40 | airtonix | i can try but my experience isn't extensive |
| 08:48.01 | Cruciformer | k let me prepare a shorter XML file real quick and I'll pastey |
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| 08:54.25 | Cruciformer | http://www.pastey.net/125454 |
| 08:54.39 | Cruciformer | the bit I am trying to get working is line 48 |
| 08:55.13 | Cruciformer | trying to look up the value of the key that is the user's class |
| 08:58.33 | Cruciformer | I suspect the use="@id" in teh key definition should be use="id" not @id. Changed it to that and still no joy. |
| 09:01.23 | airtonix | Cruciformer, think you need to approach it a different way |
| 09:02.38 | Cruciformer | this xslt table lookup stuff really makes my brain explode. The nutshell and IBM examples I have found were not helpful. |
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| 09:04.17 | airtonix | Cruciformer, the 2nd parameter for the key element won't parse xpath |
| 09:04.32 | airtonix | Cruciformer, you need to do that with another function first |
| 09:05.22 | Cruciformer | oh? firefox gives me no error (not that that's saying much I admit) but it has given me xpath errors on other stuff. |
| 09:06.03 | airtonix | Cruciformer, as it currently stands its looking for an attribute with the value : @c |
| 09:06.28 | airtonix | Cruciformer, so there is technically no error |
| 09:06.32 | Cruciformer | oh ... that wont expand out to the current contents of the c attribute in teh user definition? |
| 09:06.55 | Cruciformer | like the @n earlier in the line does? |
| 09:10.23 | airtonix | actually wait |
| 09:11.40 | airtonix | its because your trying to print out the text node of the C element |
| 09:11.52 | airtonix | those C elements have no text nodes, only attributes |
| 09:14.12 | Cruciformer | oh. How do I reference the attribute then? |
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| 09:15.49 | Cruciformer | noticed one other thing, it should be /v not /n at the end to get the value, there is no n attribute |
| 09:15.58 | Cruciformer | but even with that the syntax is still wrong |
| 09:18.09 | airtonix | like this ... http://www.pastey.net/125456 |
| 09:18.48 | airtonix | http://www.pastey.net/125456/49:50:51 |
| 09:19.24 | airtonix | you could also use a inline template |
| 09:22.48 | Cruciformer | you, sir, absolutely rock :) |
| 09:24.47 | Cruciformer | (at least I am assuming you are a sir and not a ma'am) |
| 09:27.23 | Cruciformer | Now I have to decide if it's worth trying to figure out how to split that long string (the m attribute) and index the users, or if I should change the xml output to reference each user as its own node. |
| 09:27.33 | Taroven | IT'S ALLLLIIIIIIIVVVVEEEE |
| 09:27.47 | Taroven | Got class coloring finally implemented in EventHorizon =P |
| 09:28.23 | airtonix | Cruciformer, you can control the xml being served? |
| 09:28.29 | Cruciformer | yes sir I can |
| 09:28.47 | airtonix | because I would start by making the class name a text node instead of an attribute |
| 09:29.04 | airtonix | since the id attribute is an attribute of the classname |
| 09:29.10 | Cruciformer | I am also going to make that class table static in teh xslt as it is invariant, no need to export it with teh xml |
| 09:29.54 | Cruciformer | which will further shorten the XML output (which is being output by a mod, so the less space it takes up in the editbox the better) |
| 09:30.21 | airtonix | what is the destination? |
| 09:30.48 | Cruciformer | someone exporting their suicide kings list and putting the xml on a website so users can see their positions on the lists |
| 09:31.38 | airtonix | ok |
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| 09:32.03 | Cruciformer | how they get the XML exported by the mod onto the website is their business (as is putting the XML header and stylesheet name etc) |
| 09:32.20 | Cruciformer | the mod produces the output from <ksk> to </ksk> only. |
| 09:33.30 | Cruciformer | and I have complete control over what it generates |
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| 09:34.16 | Cruciformer | that m attribute is a comma-separated list, in order, of teh users on that list. Each user id is defined by a <u> node in the <users> section. |
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| 09:35.09 | Cruciformer | will it make my life easier if I reference each user inside the <list> individually rather than that composite string? Like: |
| 09:35.10 | Shirik | "And on the seventh day, He exited from append mode." |
| 09:35.12 | Shirik | headdesks |
| 09:36.03 | Cruciformer | <list whatever><u id="0001"/> <u id="0002"/></list>? |
| 09:39.05 | airtonix | depends, but its not immediatly obvious to me what the purpose of that lists element is |
| 09:41.06 | airtonix | xml needs to be self describing without a style sheet...so when you start associating attributes to other attributes which are in fact not really attributes... it gets confusing |
| 09:44.36 | Cruciformer | the lists thing is the actual list. There can be multiple lists, each of which has a variable number of users on it, in order. |
| 09:44.51 | Cruciformer | that sample I gave just had the one list, there could be others. |
| 09:45.15 | airtonix | so a list of characters in a particular event or raid night? |
| 09:46.08 | Cruciformer | No, its an order list of users. All users who are eligble for loot. If you are at the top of the list you can get the loot. When you do you move to the botom and everyone else moves up. |
| 09:46.30 | Cruciformer | Typically guilds run with 3 lists: main spec gear, tier gear and offspec gear |
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| 09:47.04 | Cruciformer | and each user occupies a position on each list (different positions on each list). |
| 09:47.15 | Cruciformer | I am just trying to list each user on each list. |
| 09:47.46 | airtonix | yes it would be better if you presented each user as a seperate element |
| 09:47.54 | Cruciformer | k done |
| 09:48.13 | airtonix | i can imagine that you'll want to assign other bits of info to each user in a list |
| 09:48.55 | Cruciformer | actually not. I just need to list the users on each list, and color them according to their class. |
| 09:49.54 | Cruciformer | http://archive.botbh.com/ksk/ksk.php |
| 09:50.00 | Cruciformer | theres a badly formatted sample |
| 09:50.31 | Cruciformer | that user output teh class as text, for my stylesheet I will simply use class colors |
| 09:50.59 | Cruciformer | http://skg.astralorder.com/ something like that |
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| 10:00.53 | Shirik | god my school's IT is pathetic |
| 10:00.57 | Shirik | ERROR: cannot verify eclipse.db.erau.edu's certificate, issued by `/C=--/ST=SomeState/L=SomeCity/O=SomeOrganization/OU=SomeOrganizationalUnit/CN=eclipse.db.erau.edu/emailAddress=root@eclipse.db.erau.edu': |
| 10:01.09 | Shirik | Could they at least make SOME effort to make a REASONABLE self-signed cert? |
| 10:09.22 | Cruciformer | airtonix: On line 50 of your example you pasted back, if the class had an actual value, how would I reference that instead of using @v? |
| 10:09.38 | airtonix | using your original method |
| 10:09.49 | airtonix | minus the /n |
| 10:12.28 | Fisker | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRGHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 10:12.34 | Cruciformer | <xsl:value-of select="key('class-key', @c)"/> does not seem to work |
| 10:13.11 | Fisker | blizzard should've made that damn brewfest ram a vehicle for the quest |
| 10:18.24 | airtonix | Cruciformer, this is how i visualise the class list : <c id="08">MAGE</c> |
| 10:20.32 | airtonix | http://www.pastey.net/125458 |
| 10:22.13 | Cruciformer | Ok cool thanks again, I'll work on that :) |
| 10:22.37 | Cruciformer | Im trying to embed that class list in teh xslt as well, so I am having to figure that shit out too. |
| 10:22.57 | airtonix | params or variables |
| 10:23.18 | airtonix | http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/el_variable.asp |
| 10:24.04 | airtonix | or you can import them from another xml file : http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/el_import.asp |
| 10:24.57 | Cruciformer | yeah I think I am going to have to use a parameter |
| 10:33.09 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: sc2 beta? :p |
| 10:45.27 | Fisker | no Gnarfoz |
| 10:45.51 | Fisker | and watch your tongue boy |
| 10:45.56 | Fisker | i'm still your superior as paladin |
| 10:47.43 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: your paladins are now wearing suspensories etc |
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| 10:53.51 | Fisker | :e? |
| 10:58.26 | Fisker | gg BRD dropping the 2 best survival trinkets in the game :P |
| 10:59.12 | Fisker | well juggernauts vitality is better |
| 10:59.16 | Fisker | but still :P |
| 11:02.34 | Cruciformer | I think I am gonna have to try this xmlspy program and see if having an xslt debugger will help speed me along |
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| 11:12.09 | sylvanaar | there was a better one |
| 11:12.42 | sylvanaar | style something...hold on |
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| 11:14.33 | sylvanaar | stylus studio |
| 11:16.30 | sylvanaar | xml-spy doesnt have many xsl(t) features built in - for that you have to buy mapvision or stylevision |
| 11:17.15 | sylvanaar | er mapforce |
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| 12:50.20 | Sesshu | lua> tonumber(100000000000000, 2) |
| 12:50.21 | lua_bot | Sesshu: nil |
| 12:50.32 | Sesshu | why does that happen? |
| 12:50.36 | Sesshu | lua> tonumber(10000000000000, 2) |
| 12:50.36 | lua_bot | Sesshu: 8192 |
| 12:50.40 | Sesshu | lua> tonumber(100000000000000, 2) |
| 12:50.41 | lua_bot | Sesshu: nil |
| 12:53.08 | industrial | int imit? |
| 12:57.03 | Sesshu | i hate limits |
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| 13:02.44 | industrial | try python |
| 13:02.47 | industrial | :p |
| 13:03.40 | mikma | HISSSS |
| 13:04.35 | zenzelezz | http://vi.sualize.us/view/c0da92f9f1b9840efb2d79e4d70bdb31/ |
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| 13:14.02 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRZ-jLOrFfk |
| 13:14.15 | Cide | lua> math.log(100000000000000)/math.log(2) |
| 13:14.16 | lua_bot | Cide: 46.506993328423 |
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| 13:16.04 | Cide | Sesshu: if you're using another base than 10, use strings |
| 13:16.13 | Cide | lua> tonumber("100000000000000", 2) |
| 13:16.13 | lua_bot | Cide: 16384 |
| 13:16.33 | Sesshu | hm |
| 13:18.07 | Sesshu | ok now my code is something like that: local n = tonumber(tostring(select(i, ...)),2) |
| 13:18.34 | Cide | that makes no sense |
| 13:18.52 | Cide | why are you storing a binary number as a number rather than a string? |
| 13:19.55 | Sesshu | why not ... |
| 13:19.59 | Sesshu | :P |
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| 13:21.08 | Sesshu | i can use "" somewhere or i can use tonumber(tostring()) |
| 13:21.53 | Cide | because it's not a logical choice |
| 13:22.02 | Cide | computers use 0-9 |
| 13:22.10 | Cide | you have to represent any base above 10 as a string |
| 13:22.33 | Cide | you can't easily iterate over a number |
| 13:22.53 | Cide | and as tonumber() supports all bases 2-36 it's only logical for it to use string for non-base 10 numbers |
| 13:23.21 | Cide | and if you type it as 10000 in the code people will just think it's base 10 |
| 13:23.28 | Cide | using strings is far more logical |
| 13:26.00 | Sesshu | okey |
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| 13:26.54 | Cide | what do you say Shirik? |
| 13:27.53 | Cide | <Cide> computers use 0-9 -- programming languages use 0-9, rather |
| 13:28.02 | Cide | (you can sometimes do octal and hexadecimal too) |
| 13:32.46 | Sesshu | cide? i want to make a function which can be used with /run function(binary, binary). that is why i'm using tonumber(tostring()). people will be able to type the binaris as string or as an int |
| 13:33.32 | Cide | users' stupidity is not an excuse for bad design |
| 13:33.38 | Cide | ^ should be in topic |
| 13:33.52 | Sesshu | ... |
| 13:33.59 | Sesshu | lol |
| 13:35.54 | Cide | make a helper func to turn it into a string, make sure it only contains 1's and 0's, and pass it on to your real function |
| 13:36.35 | Sesshu | yh |
| 13:42.25 | mikma | wobin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Sun_(yhtye) |
| 13:42.29 | mikma | whoops |
| 13:42.50 | mikma | wobin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Sun_(band) .. there =D |
| 13:43.12 | Wobin | mikma: aye? |
| 13:43.15 | Wobin | I know them |
| 13:43.18 | Wobin | they're kinda weird =) |
| 13:43.24 | Wobin | but the music is good |
| 13:43.24 | mikma | kinda? |
| 13:43.29 | mikma | they are australian |
| 13:43.34 | Wobin | KMH did a good cover of their song |
| 13:45.10 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_Oq7S6QdA&feature=related |
| 13:45.19 | Wobin | <3's KMH |
| 13:47.01 | mikma | <3's GMS |
| 13:52.58 | msoul | Wobin do you use Magic rune addon |
| 13:53.17 | Wobin | um |
| 13:53.18 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:53.22 | Wobin | I think |
| 13:53.25 | msoul | okie one question |
| 13:53.28 | Wobin | or maybe I don't anymore =) |
| 13:53.29 | msoul | trying to get this |
| 13:53.40 | msoul | the UI |
| 13:53.55 | Wobin | I think once I got used to the way runes worked, I stopped using the Magic Rune addon |
| 13:54.05 | Wobin | cause I know what runes are on cooldown and what does stuff |
| 13:54.17 | msoul | whe nit changes to "death" is there anything i should do |
| 13:54.32 | Wobin | your rotation should take that into account =) |
| 13:54.34 | msoul | cause to be truthful i don't understand it very wekk |
| 13:54.42 | msoul | my rotation is fine |
| 13:54.52 | Wobin | basically, with certain talents, certain spells turn runes into 'death runes' |
| 13:54.53 | msoul | i just don't get the death part or some other stuff that addon shows |
| 13:54.56 | msoul | aah |
| 13:54.58 | Wobin | which can be used in place of any other rune |
| 13:55.06 | Wobin | they're kind of 'wild card' runes |
| 13:55.08 | msoul | so if it turns to death i could use death coil for instance |
| 13:55.12 | Wobin | no |
| 13:55.17 | Wobin | DC requires Rune power |
| 13:55.36 | msoul | what death stands for :/ blood spec for dps |
| 13:55.37 | Wobin | a death rune can be used as a spare blood/unholy/frost rune |
| 13:55.52 | Wobin | so if you have, say, both blood runes on cooldown |
| 13:55.52 | msoul | and blood runes are for? |
| 13:56.01 | Wobin | a death rune can be used in place of one of those runes |
| 13:56.14 | Wobin | that's why I say that your rotation should take that into account |
| 13:56.15 | msoul | what is a death rune then |
| 13:56.22 | msoul | hmm |
| 13:56.25 | msoul | my rotation is |
| 13:56.30 | Wobin | a death rune is a 'free class' rune |
| 13:56.36 | msoul | IT, PS, HS HS DS HS HS HS HS |
| 13:56.38 | msoul | etc |
| 13:56.47 | Wobin | ok, say that HS doesn't proc death runes |
| 13:56.58 | Wobin | you would only be able to use -two- HS in the second rotation |
| 13:57.06 | Wobin | because you'd use up both blood runes with the first two HS |
| 13:57.07 | msoul | aah! |
| 13:57.17 | Wobin | er |
| 13:57.21 | Wobin | death strike, that should be |
| 13:57.41 | Wobin | cause that's what procs the death runes |
| 13:57.52 | Wobin | it's a little simplistic in explanation, but that's the basic concept |
| 13:58.05 | msoul | do you happen to know how i can get it to vertical bars static icons with labels? |
| 13:58.14 | msoul | tried the settings and none worked the way i wanted |
| 13:58.29 | Wobin | there could be an additional addon module that allows that |
| 13:58.40 | msoul | oh i see |
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| 13:59.34 | msoul | i've got it earlier today |
| 13:59.56 | msoul | magic runes/class timer for the dk |
| 14:00.06 | Aelobin | urgh can't decide whether to use the +170stam trinkets from brewfest for tanking :P |
| 14:00.22 | msoul | use it |
| 14:00.38 | msoul | haven't got it yet nor going to bother... just for a week or so |
| 14:00.43 | msoul | such a tease |
| 14:00.57 | msoul | there are two GREAT trinkets for tanking from toc |
| 14:01.01 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:01.03 | msoul | 19x stamina and one 219 |
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| 14:01.14 | Wobin | The Black Heart rules |
| 14:01.24 | Wobin | and it has a nicer proc than the brewfest ones |
| 14:01.28 | msoul | combine those with a relentless wep that has 180 and extra gem you can add! |
| 14:01.29 | Wobin | which I do like |
| 14:01.43 | Wobin | although the brewmaiden doesn't last long enough, imo =( |
| 14:01.53 | msoul | Wobin: i think i will never get it... I'm planning on talking to one guild leader today if possible |
| 14:02.08 | msoul | the current guild raiding schedule is real slow and favours A over B etc |
| 14:02.14 | msoul | "brother in law" |
| 14:02.15 | Wobin | msoul: the black heart? |
| 14:02.22 | msoul | Wobin: yes from ulduar |
| 14:02.28 | msoul | ohh |
| 14:02.30 | Wobin | no, that's from normal toc |
| 14:02.31 | msoul | bleh that i have |
| 14:02.38 | msoul | i thought you were talking about ulduar one |
| 14:02.47 | Wobin | nah |
| 14:02.48 | msoul | there is two one from ulduar 25 and 10 |
| 14:02.51 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:03.32 | msoul | trying to get extra gold these days will drop mining for BS |
| 14:03.39 | msoul | will buy all mats from AH :/ |
| 14:04.03 | msoul | JC/BS best professions for dk dps and tank even |
| 14:04.10 | Wobin | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0g4GgewOV8&feature=related |
| 14:05.45 | msoul | was so against macros before now i couldn't be happier about them :P |
| 14:05.55 | msoul | i still hit 1-9 |
| 14:11.50 | Aelobin | i've replaced my Essence of Gossamer for the brewfest trinket that gives the 140 hp per 2 secs |
| 14:12.12 | Aelobin | not sure if it was a good idea but meh, cant decide whether to replace the black heart for the other brewfest one |
| 14:12.47 | Aelobin | the +armor procc gives me 5.83% damage reduction |
| 14:13.49 | Wobin | which is pretty decent |
| 14:14.13 | Wobin | I guess it depends on if you're tanking a heavily magic based boss or not |
| 14:14.13 | Aelobin | aye, but its 10 seconds per 45 ICD isnt it? |
| 14:14.43 | msoul | i switch sigils whenever it's needed.. :D |
| 14:14.53 | msoul | Sigil of awareness and tanking == threat |
| 14:15.03 | msoul | the other one for dodge depends on the boss |
| 14:15.26 | msoul | i still haven't upgraded my legs/shoulder |
| 14:15.37 | msoul | 33864k unbuffed |
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| 14:15.57 | msoul | did os25 so many times and never seen the legs dropped |
| 14:16.07 | Aelobin | im at 36.2k hp unbuffed with both brewfest on |
| 14:16.20 | Aelobin | 35.7k with black heart |
| 14:16.29 | msoul | dk or warrior? |
| 14:16.32 | Squeese | is there a function equivelant to /dump ? |
| 14:16.33 | Aelobin | dk :P |
| 14:16.37 | msoul | oh nice |
| 14:16.46 | msoul | i tank with VH legs |
| 14:16.47 | industrial | Squeese: no. |
| 14:16.52 | Aelobin | still using titansteel destroyer though 0_0 |
| 14:16.55 | Aelobin | really need to replace it |
| 14:17.01 | industrial | Squeese: /dump is from an addon so look in the addon |
| 14:17.04 | msoul | iron soul for a start |
| 14:17.07 | Aelobin | aye |
| 14:17.08 | msoul | or BoH =) |
| 14:17.11 | Squeese | ah ok, cool, thx |
| 14:17.13 | Aelobin | just not been lucky |
| 14:17.14 | industrial | Squeese: actually, if you have devtools its DevTools_Dump() |
| 14:17.23 | msoul | i know the feeling |
| 14:17.37 | Aelobin | BoH? 0.o |
| 14:17.46 | Squeese | industrial: thx a bunch <3 :) |
| 14:17.48 | msoul | i don't mean to brag but i am the best dps in the guild and yet always loose shit for others |
| 14:18.31 | Aelobin | :P |
| 14:18.34 | industrial | Squeese: np! |
| 14:18.42 | Aelobin | i hate being a DK tank trying to get a weapon upgrade |
| 14:18.46 | Aelobin | all the melee dps ninja them :< |
| 14:18.53 | industrial | hehe |
| 14:18.54 | msoul | true :/ |
| 14:18.59 | msoul | or get the one from toc hc |
| 14:19.05 | msoul | not bad for tanking or dps even |
| 14:19.06 | Aelobin | ive been doing it every day |
| 14:19.09 | msoul | i use that or dps |
| 14:19.09 | Aelobin | no marrowstrike has dropped |
| 14:19.13 | industrial | me too, want it on my MM hunter :( |
| 14:19.17 | Aelobin | got edge of ruin already :P |
| 14:19.21 | industrial | same with the normal trinket... i ran it maybe 50 times now |
| 14:19.25 | msoul | tank wit hit then |
| 14:19.33 | Aelobin | but then i have to runeforgeeeee lol |
| 14:19.49 | Aelobin | plus i lose stam |
| 14:19.54 | msoul | once i get the legs will craft the waist/feet to max my hp to get closer to 40k =) |
| 14:20.18 | Aelobin | niiice |
| 14:20.26 | Aelobin | which waist/feet? :o |
| 14:20.41 | Aelobin | actually, just feet :P |
| 14:20.52 | msoul | ulduar recipes |
| 14:21.13 | msoul | spiked deathdealers the feet and the waist called indsucrble something i don't know how to spell it |
| 14:21.33 | Aelobin | ah right cool ty |
| 14:21.38 | Aelobin | i dont really pay attention to BoEs :P |
| 14:22.00 | msoul | i dont want too but slow raiding schedule and only ulduar |
| 14:22.13 | msoul | i suggested we do others naxx/os/eoe but none wants |
| 14:22.36 | msoul | so i decided to join another guild. not to mention the other stuff i have noticed |
| 14:23.25 | Aelobin | :P |
| 14:23.38 | Aelobin | gonna check out how much those boots cost to make |
| 14:23.43 | Cide | /dump exists in the base framexml now |
| 14:23.46 | Cide | no need for devtools |
| 14:23.57 | Aelobin | i'd gain 52stam, but would need to re-defense cap |
| 14:24.05 | Cide | the function is named DevTools_Dump() there too |
| 14:24.09 | Cide | iirc |
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| 14:24.13 | industrial | Cide: :o |
| 14:24.24 | industrial | Squeese: -----^ |
| 14:24.36 | msoul | Aelobin: get the mats and find someone to craft it |
| 14:24.42 | Aelobin | :P |
| 14:25.16 | Aelobin | got the belt off toc10 first boss so wnot bother with that |
| 14:25.24 | msoul | nice |
| 14:26.19 | Aelobin | still using EoC boots <_> |
| 14:26.26 | msoul | i lost the dps bracer from first boss |
| 14:26.42 | msoul | i use the one from thadius |
| 14:26.46 | msoul | endurance |
| 14:26.52 | Aelobin | nice |
| 14:27.21 | msoul | cloak the sun shadowed or some such from naxx25 |
| 14:27.28 | msoul | bracers too |
| 14:27.32 | msoul | from 4 horse men |
| 14:27.44 | msoul | hrm and shoulders from naxx10 |
| 14:28.35 | msoul | and iron soul is a tanking wep :P |
| 14:28.42 | msoul | got it last monday |
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| 14:29.15 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm, anyone have an idea of how to get gear ratings out of Pawn? isin getrating()? |
| 14:30.27 | Aelobin | nice :) |
| 14:30.45 | Aelobin | just trying to figure out how much defense i'd need to make up for if i get those boots |
| 14:31.06 | msoul | spiked deathdealers? what's your def cap |
| 14:31.40 | Aelobin | 540 |
| 14:31.46 | msoul | ohh |
| 14:31.49 | Aelobin | im at 541 atm |
| 14:32.02 | msoul | 542 is the def cap though ;) |
| 14:32.05 | Aelobin | and would lose 13 rating which is about 2.6 skill |
| 14:32.12 | Aelobin | it is? |
| 14:32.15 | msoul | aye |
| 14:32.18 | Aelobin | 0_o |
| 14:32.29 | msoul | 10 def 10 stamina should do the trick |
| 14:32.40 | Rabbitbunny | You're not talking about UI dev. |
| 14:32.43 | Aelobin | i swear its 540 :P |
| 14:32.54 | Aelobin | we're talking, better than a ghost town <3 |
| 14:33.02 | Rabbitbunny | No, it's not better. |
| 14:33.23 | Rabbitbunny | If you two would shut up I could wait for any activity in this channel to see whn someone useful was here. |
| 14:33.24 | Aelobin | if someone could answer your question, they would :P |
| 14:33.25 | msoul | heh, since when ppl cannot talk here? |
| 14:33.42 | Rabbitbunny | As it is, I'll have to read your inane babble. |
| 14:33.56 | msoul | i suspect that time of the month |
| 14:34.03 | Cide | Rabbitbunny: you're not the owner of this channel |
| 14:34.03 | msoul | totally understandable |
| 14:34.11 | Cide | nor do you have any power in here whatsoever |
| 14:34.18 | Rabbitbunny | And? |
| 14:34.25 | msoul | which is why i am not going to feed you until you explode |
| 14:34.26 | Cide | people talk about non-ui dev related things all the time |
| 14:34.42 | Aelobin | such as peppy's cats <3 |
| 14:34.51 | Rabbitbunny | And it annoys me, I tend to make my opinions known. |
| 14:34.52 | Cide | you have no right to tell them to shut up just because you feel you're more important or that your questions are more important |
| 14:34.55 | Wobin | in short, shut up. Don't try to manage the channel. |
| 14:35.02 | Cide | well I tend to make my opinions known |
| 14:35.09 | Aelobin | msoul: EJ says 540 for DK tanks |
| 14:35.12 | msoul | Aelobin: there are certain forums i can link you to i follow myself for rotation etc |
| 14:35.13 | Wobin | Because your attitude means that people feel less likely to want to help you |
| 14:35.19 | Cide | and my opinion is that you should RTFS and GTFO |
| 14:35.20 | msoul | Aelobin: hmm |
| 14:35.38 | Wobin | Nobody likes someone who feels so arrogant that they decide what gets spoken and what doesn't. |
| 14:35.47 | msoul | Aelobin: I'm sorry if i told you a false info... :/ |
| 14:36.03 | Wobin | msoul: nah, it's 540 all around |
| 14:36.10 | msoul | oh ok |
| 14:36.16 | Cide | the 'S' there is source |
| 14:36.17 | msoul | thanks |
| 14:36.21 | Cide | you should be able to figure out the rest |
| 14:36.32 | Wobin | the only class it doesn't apply to is druids, cause they're naturally uncrittable with talents |
| 14:36.34 | Rabbitbunny | Right, because I didnt do that first... |
| 14:36.39 | msoul | Aelobin: frost tank or blood btw? i've been trying blood and couldn't be happier about it |
| 14:36.42 | Cide | well there you go then |
| 14:36.48 | Cide | just go ahead and do it now. |
| 14:36.50 | msoul | Wobin: yeah |
| 14:36.51 | Rabbitbunny | It was sarcasm. I did. |
| 14:37.02 | Cide | I know it was. |
| 14:37.14 | Cide | what do you think we would do to answer your question? |
| 14:37.18 | Cide | the source gives you the answer |
| 14:37.24 | Aelobin | msoul: same here, but thinking of going frost when i can find a nice way through the tree down to HB |
| 14:37.24 | Cide | whether you like said answer or not |
| 14:37.35 | Wobin | Aelobin: I really like the HB glyph |
| 14:37.37 | msoul | Aelobin: ah |
| 14:37.51 | Aelobin | all the tanknig seems to just be AoE based until you reach a boss |
| 14:37.52 | msoul | Wobin: you should try blood spec as a tank ;) |
| 14:38.05 | Aelobin | CC is dead since wotlk :P |
| 14:38.05 | Rabbitbunny | Well, it looks like it's calced and thrown to the tooltip in PawnUpdateTooltip, I was hoping someone had already tried to do this and had either a function,or a better gear rating addon. |
| 14:38.08 | Wobin | msoul: I should... but I worked so hard to get that damn HB glyph =) |
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| 14:38.19 | msoul | hehe |
| 14:38.30 | msoul | blood = tps magnet :D |
| 14:38.42 | Wobin | msoul: I've not had any threat issue |
| 14:38.46 | msoul | doesn't work as well as frost fro aoe though but still managable |
| 14:38.52 | Wobin | although that could be due to having good dpsers |
| 14:38.54 | msoul | i did when i started |
| 14:39.12 | Wobin | I generally have a decent ceiling on threat in encounters |
| 14:39.22 | Aelobin | msoul: blood is nice, but it's starting to bore me |
| 14:39.23 | msoul | read plethora of forums and asked fenita even about tanking blood spec "ensidia" |
| 14:39.42 | Aelobin | DnD, BB, diseases, Pest, BB |
| 14:39.43 | Wobin | Aelobin: for tanking or dps? |
| 14:39.48 | Aelobin | tanking |
| 14:39.57 | msoul | Aelobin: my dps and tank for me = blood |
| 14:40.08 | Aelobin | my dps is blood too, but thats a pvp spec :P |
| 14:40.19 | msoul | Aelobin: yeah i start with IR DnD PS pes BB BB etc |
| 14:40.39 | msoul | Aelobin: don't get that relentless mace before me! |
| 14:40.40 | Aelobin | until i get a better weapon, i'm putting BB before Pest for threat reasons |
| 14:40.45 | msoul | 180 stamina + rxtra sockets |
| 14:40.48 | Wobin | Rabbitbunny: if you just want it for personal use, can't you just edit the function to return what you want? Otherwise copy the whole thing |
| 14:40.49 | msoul | extra even |
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| 14:41.11 | Rabbitbunny | I don't want it for personal use. |
| 14:41.47 | Wobin | Well, then you either talk the owner of Pawn into refactoring the function to expose an api, or just use the code in your own |
| 14:41.50 | msoul | Aelobin and wobin http://ensidia.com/home/guides/tanking-death-knight/ |
| 14:42.06 | Aelobin | hmm my def is 451, but i dno whether that 1 is at the high end or low end of the 4.93, if that makes sense |
| 14:42.25 | msoul | mine is 552 atm |
| 14:42.39 | Aelobin | wow, whats your avoidance with that/ |
| 14:42.56 | mikma | yes |
| 14:43.16 | msoul | never checked to be honest |
| 14:43.27 | msoul | been focusing on dpsing lately a loooooot |
| 14:43.31 | Aelobin | lol |
| 14:43.44 | msoul | which is why i am drooling over two weps one from ulduar the other from toc25 |
| 14:43.47 | msoul | dualblade butcher axe |
| 14:44.27 | msoul | Aelobin: i hope you have JC as a profession btw |
| 14:44.32 | Aelobin | nope xD |
| 14:44.39 | Aelobin | engi / LW |
| 14:44.46 | msoul | well done then... without jc and 38k you say |
| 14:44.55 | Aelobin | +45 stam on head, +102 stam on bracers |
| 14:45.00 | Aelobin | not ideal, but i cba to relevel proffs |
| 14:45.04 | msoul | I'm a jc that givers me three 51 gems stamina =) |
| 14:45.11 | msoul | gives* |
| 14:45.17 | Aelobin | lua> (51-30)*3 |
| 14:45.17 | lua_bot | Aelobin: 63 |
| 14:45.22 | Aelobin | you gain 63 stam :P |
| 14:45.22 | msoul | Aelobin: will drop mining soon for BS |
| 14:45.25 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:45.28 | Wobin | I have 554 def |
| 14:45.40 | msoul | you utgear me |
| 14:45.42 | Aelobin | lua> 103-40 |
| 14:45.43 | lua_bot | Aelobin: 63 |
| 14:45.45 | Wobin | probably not |
| 14:45.48 | Aelobin | i gain 63 stam from LW :P |
| 14:45.58 | Wobin | that's 6.16% to parry/dodge btw |
| 14:45.58 | Aelobin | oh wait, it's 102 so 62 stam |
| 14:46.26 | msoul | i don't want to relogg might lose a spot in WG :X |
| 14:46.28 | Wobin | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&n=snuusnu |
| 14:46.30 | Aelobin | xD |
| 14:46.34 | msoul | but will do it after to show you my equip |
| 14:46.51 | msoul | 2 mins! |
| 14:47.06 | msoul | Wobin: i haven't checked but if you use worldcreaver axe i want that too :/ |
| 14:47.18 | Wobin | nah, I missed the roll on that =( |
| 14:47.24 | Wobin | I have stormedge |
| 14:47.27 | msoul | you have the axe from uldu |
| 14:47.30 | msoul | oh yes that's the one |
| 14:47.45 | msoul | Wobin: get oblivion sword |
| 14:47.57 | msoul | if possible... i'd keep it for a very very long time once i get my hands on it |
| 14:48.11 | Aelobin | Wobin: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=The+Maelstrom&n=Aelixia |
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| 14:48.32 | Wobin | msoul: hehe, no, I'm never actually going to get to U25 hard =P |
| 14:48.34 | Aelobin | its not updated as a cba to log out, but i have those 2 brewfest trinkets if i wanna stam stack, and replaced some expertise gems for stam |
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| 14:48.48 | Aelobin | replacing the gems is stupid i know, but meh i'm a stam whore |
| 14:48.50 | msoul | Wobin: :( |
| 14:48.50 | Wobin | I had to stop raiding with my normal group |
| 14:48.53 | Wobin | cause I got a job =P |
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| 14:49.40 | msoul | WG is full |
| 14:49.52 | msoul | and i am in again |
| 14:49.53 | Wobin | The fourset bonus for the Conq set is pretty nice |
| 14:49.58 | Aelobin | if i'm 541 def, that means i'm at LEAST 4.93 def rating over cap yeh? :P |
| 14:50.04 | msoul | i have the hel and vest only |
| 14:50.11 | Wobin | Aelobin: hehe |
| 14:50.14 | Wobin | true... |
| 14:50.23 | Wobin | but it also means you'll have issues swapping out items |
| 14:50.28 | Aelobin | yeh :P |
| 14:50.43 | Aelobin | that doesnt bother me until i run out of gold, which is soon :P |
| 14:51.06 | Wobin | wait wait |
| 14:51.09 | Wobin | titansteel destroyer? |
| 14:51.15 | Wobin | zomg, you have to get a new weapon =( |
| 14:51.20 | Aelobin | i know! :'( |
| 14:51.27 | Aelobin | tell that to the melee dps |
| 14:51.34 | Wobin | Although, I recall it took me -ages- to get a replacement for that =( |
| 14:51.49 | Aelobin | jawbone dropped in naxx25 but some dps got it |
| 14:51.53 | Wobin | ... |
| 14:51.56 | Aelobin | i was like nooooo decent stam + expertise |
| 14:51.58 | Wobin | terrible =( |
| 14:52.07 | msoul | inevitable defeat is better than jawbone though |
| 14:52.12 | msoul | much better |
| 14:52.16 | Aelobin | anythings better than titansteel :p |
| 14:52.21 | msoul | hehe |
| 14:52.22 | Wobin | but jawbone is better than titansteel =) |
| 14:52.27 | msoul | true |
| 14:52.37 | msoul | colossal from hol |
| 14:52.50 | Wobin | I had that for ages |
| 14:52.51 | industrial | eh, just do ToC a bit for all items from there |
| 14:52.53 | msoul | decent amount of stamina anf agi = dodge |
| 14:52.59 | msoul | yeah |
| 14:53.00 | industrial | then you are set for raiding |
| 14:53.02 | industrial | :p |
| 14:53.03 | Wobin | ToC has a nice pike, doesn't it? |
| 14:53.18 | Aelobin | aye thats what im after |
| 14:53.21 | Aelobin | Marrowstrike |
| 14:53.31 | Aelobin | agi = armor + dodge, plus i can wap a +30 stam in the socket |
| 14:53.44 | industrial | arp! need it fordps :p |
| 14:53.53 | Wobin | til it gets nerfed =p |
| 14:54.26 | Aelobin | if i can afford the titansteel off the AH i think i'll work towards those BoE boots |
| 14:54.27 | msoul | yeah it was crazy |
| 14:54.37 | msoul | all went with arp instead of agi hunters rogues etc |
| 14:55.08 | msoul | i'm leveling up druid/warrior/paladin/priest and a rogue |
| 14:55.19 | Aelobin | reckon 12 eternal fires would take long to farm? xD |
| 14:55.23 | msoul | Aelobin: if you want to level up a new char let me know =) |
| 14:55.49 | Aelobin | msoul: my "old main" is my 80 hunter, but im a dk addict now :P |
| 14:55.56 | msoul | in SP those fire mobs if you're doing the dailies for hodir |
| 14:56.03 | msoul | dks rocks! :P |
| 14:56.15 | msoul | i love warriors/rogues too |
| 14:56.26 | Aelobin | hehe :P |
| 14:56.31 | Aelobin | i need a high lvl spellcaster/healer |
| 14:56.46 | Aelobin | so that i've done dps/healer/tank, and caster/ranged/melee |
| 14:56.48 | msoul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 14:56.51 | msoul | my tanking gear |
| 14:56.53 | Wobin | I've gone back to healing |
| 14:57.05 | msoul | Wobin: druid or a shaman? |
| 14:57.15 | Wobin | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&cn=Snuupy&gn=Titans+of+Grey |
| 14:57.18 | msoul | Aelobin: my druid stopped at lvl 15 start one! |
| 14:57.24 | Wobin | Shammy |
| 14:57.37 | Aelobin | i gots a lvl 71 horde shaman :P |
| 14:57.53 | msoul | i want a shaman too |
| 14:57.55 | Aelobin | cant decide whether to lvl that or my 67 nelf priest |
| 14:57.58 | Wobin | shaman are fun |
| 14:58.03 | msoul | so true |
| 14:58.05 | Wobin | although I want to do a disc priest |
| 14:58.08 | Aelobin | aye, but ive nto been on it since the totem bar |
| 14:58.09 | msoul | dps shaman is nice |
| 14:58.16 | Aelobin | so i was a bit put off having to put them all out |
| 14:58.19 | Wobin | I respecced from ele to enh, to give it a go |
| 14:58.42 | msoul | dk is my main all low levels |
| 14:58.43 | Wobin | it's kinda nice being DW attacking again |
| 14:58.52 | Wobin | I've not done it since rouging it up |
| 14:58.54 | msoul | 26 is the second highest |
| 14:58.59 | msoul | hehe |
| 14:59.09 | msoul | i will level a shaman at some point |
| 14:59.19 | Wobin | eh, dk:80 hunter: 80 shammy: 80 |
| 14:59.35 | Wobin | then priest/hunter/rogue/mage at 70 |
| 14:59.36 | msoul | nice |
| 14:59.44 | msoul | i wish i could do that |
| 14:59.51 | msoul | i probably should |
| 14:59.55 | Wobin | just play for a long time =P |
| 15:00.00 | msoul | hehe |
| 15:00.06 | Wobin | oh and druid at 70 |
| 15:00.14 | Aelobin | i have a lot of free time, but lacking the effort to do that :P |
| 15:00.20 | msoul | my problem is i want to gear them up asap for raiding |
| 15:00.24 | Wobin | I never managed to get a warlock past 48 or so |
| 15:00.30 | Wobin | and pally, pft, no chance |
| 15:00.32 | Wobin | nor warrior |
| 15:00.35 | msoul | now ppl ask for ach to do anything even heroics |
| 15:00.45 | msoul | soon you wont be able to log in unless you have an achievement |
| 15:00.51 | Aelobin | lol |
| 15:01.01 | Aelobin | hmm i wonder |
| 15:01.12 | Aelobin | "LFM hc deadmines, link achi" - would they accept the normal achi? :P |
| 15:01.16 | Wobin | [msoul] has gained the achievement [Made It Through The Login Queue!] |
| 15:01.29 | msoul | lol |
| 15:01.29 | Wobin | (Feat of Strength) |
| 15:01.48 | zenzelezz | now he needs the Heroic version |
| 15:01.49 | msoul | i know tacs for toc and yet cause of the ach i cannot do it |
| 15:02.00 | msoul | haha |
| 15:02.14 | msoul | i got korolan hc ach before the 10 version |
| 15:02.16 | Wobin | weird, I wonder why my second trinket isn't loading on the armour |
| 15:02.17 | Wobin | y |
| 15:03.24 | msoul | Aelobin: get a hairloom and level up a druid! |
| 15:03.34 | Aelobin | lvlling a pally on this realm |
| 15:03.36 | Wobin | get -two- heirlooms! |
| 15:03.38 | Aelobin | it's been lvl 7 for 2 months |
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| 15:03.45 | Wobin | 20% xp is great |
| 15:03.47 | msoul | start on tarren mill plx |
| 15:04.00 | Aelobin | i did 69->80 in 5 days :P |
| 15:04.01 | msoul | Wobin: do equip stacks for exp? |
| 15:04.05 | Wobin | yep! =) |
| 15:04.08 | Aelobin | +10% heirloom ftw |
| 15:04.08 | msoul | ohhhh! |
| 15:04.24 | Wobin | shoulders and chest = +20% |
| 15:04.27 | msoul | i have only vest and shoulder |
| 15:04.37 | msoul | not sure if it gives the other 10% |
| 15:04.47 | msoul | shoulders from wg |
| 15:04.52 | Wobin | I'm fairly sure it does |
| 15:05.02 | msoul | oh yes it does |
| 15:05.11 | msoul | will go check what other stuff i can get |
| 15:06.11 | Wobin | that's all there is |
| 15:06.13 | Wobin | for xp bonus |
| 15:06.26 | msoul | nice |
| 15:06.36 | msoul | didn't know they stack together |
| 15:07.24 | msoul | btw ael if you got your cooking skill maxed you can get some for expertise stamina etc =) |
| 15:07.35 | msoul | maxed it 3 days ago for few recipes |
| 15:07.48 | msoul | the 40 expertise 40 stamina and 40 str 40 stam for dpsing |
| 15:07.54 | msoul | flask of endless rage for dpsing |
| 15:07.59 | msoul | and cannot remember the one for tanking |
| 15:08.07 | msoul | those you always want to have.... |
| 15:08.26 | Aelobin | msoul: cool i'll work on it ;) |
| 15:08.35 | Aelobin | doing occ hc daily now, hopefully 20 min achi |
| 15:08.48 | msoul | good luck =) |
| 15:08.50 | Aelobin | then i'll has my red proto :D |
| 15:09.23 | Wobin | good luck! |
| 15:09.32 | msoul | i'll keep crossing my fingers for you |
| 15:09.46 | Aelobin | mannnn have you ever gone to socket/resocket and completely forgot about yoru meta? |
| 15:09.58 | Aelobin | i did that earlier, ended up wasting an epic gem |
| 15:10.47 | msoul | hehe i did that when i maxed my JC :P |
| 15:11.13 | msoul | i wonder how much will it cost to max BS from AH |
| 15:11.24 | msoul | cause mining is worthless now |
| 15:11.36 | Aelobin | LW > BS for tanking xD |
| 15:11.38 | msoul | the 60 stamina i can get from two extra sockets... mainly for dpsing |
| 15:11.54 | Aelobin | bracer enchant gives a major buff for both dps and tanking |
| 15:11.55 | msoul | how so? |
| 15:12.05 | Aelobin | 114 AP on wrists and 102 stam on wrists |
| 15:12.07 | Aelobin | iirc |
| 15:12.14 | msoul | sec |
| 15:12.21 | msoul | i'll link you |
| 15:13.22 | Aelobin | brb gonna restart my lagfilled pc before occ |
| 15:13.26 | Aelobin | back in 5 |
| 15:14.10 | msoul | cannot find the link anymore... from ej |
| 15:14.32 | msoul | was a profession comparission for dpsing and jc/Bs was the best combination |
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| 15:15.38 | msoul | brb |
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| 15:17.47 | mikma | wobin: poop on you. |
| 15:21.10 | msoul | be aware of the dks... there are three here |
| 15:21.23 | msoul | no matter what class you're! youre going fown mikma! |
| 15:22.01 | mikma | yes yes, your mamma |
| 15:22.17 | msoul | my mom is dead |
| 15:22.54 | mikma | good. so is my dad. |
| 15:22.57 | msoul | she's not to fill that silence |
| 15:28.35 | Wobin | PS, levelling BS from the AH = lots of $$$$$$ |
| 15:29.46 | msoul | true :( |
| 15:31.01 | msoul | once i hit 7k will start doing it |
| 15:31.36 | mikma | pervert |
| 15:31.41 | msoul | lol |
| 15:31.50 | msoul | good one |
| 15:32.44 | msoul | bought two greatness trinkets |
| 15:33.25 | msoul | and the ring from dalaran |
| 15:33.29 | msoul | lots and lots of stuff :/ |
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| 16:06.08 | Kaso | Say i want an addon to be able to communicate in a broadcast manner to people who might not necessarily be in guild or raid, i'd have to use SendChatMessage("CHANNEL") yes? In that case how would one prevent brewfest and other drunk people from corrupting messages |
| 16:06.31 | A-KO | pretty sure you can't |
| 16:07.03 | nevcairiel | yeah, you can't |
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| 16:09.10 | Kaso | i guess the only option would be to make a protocol resistant to sh/s and ...hic changes |
| 16:09.15 | Bruners | how much hit should you have as dual wielding death knight? |
| 16:09.56 | Kaso | 27% if you never want to miss ever |
| 16:19.38 | Bruners | so 8.36 is slightly less neat ? |
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| 16:21.34 | zenzelezz | approximately 18.64% less neat |
| 16:22.15 | Aelobin | msoul: back xD |
| 16:23.32 | Kaso | im not entirely sure the sums for DK, but after 8% the relative goodness of hit over other stats drops a bit and you might prefer to go for them |
| 16:23.54 | zenzelezz | Kaso: is the s->sh and ...hic! the same for the non-English versions of WoW? |
| 16:24.12 | Kaso | ah, i dont know |
| 16:24.20 | Kaso | i wonder if its in global strings.. hmm |
| 16:26.05 | Kaso | SLURRED_SPEECH = "%s ...hic!"; |
| 16:26.26 | zenzelezz | nice |
| 16:27.47 | Bruners | Kaso: the ability hit is 8% iirc, so yeah after you have reached that it goes down |
| 16:29.15 | Pneumatus | i wonder if changing SLURRED_SPEECH to "%s" would stop you sending it, or just recieving |
| 16:29.31 | zenzelezz | I hope it's the latter |
| 16:30.00 | zenzelezz | predicts addons for "%s WANNA BE A HERO?" |
| 16:30.00 | Kaso | Bruners, http://pastey.net/125469 |
| 16:30.04 | Pneumatus | it all appears to be done in C code though, as SLURRED_SPEECH isn't anywhere other than globalstrings |
| 16:30.11 | Kaso | that's stat weightings for frostDK |
| 16:31.16 | Kaso | hmm |
| 16:31.18 | Kaso | it seems to work.. |
| 16:32.47 | Kaso | I just reset SLURRED_SPEECH="%s" |
| 16:33.02 | Kaso | havent had a ...hic since |
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| 16:39.21 | Kaso | Yah confirmed, setting SLURRED_SPEECH does change what you send |
| 16:39.50 | Kaso | [76:Kado]: Hello how are you? ...test! |
| 16:40.46 | zenzelezz | that's what a character with a stock SLURRED_SPEECH sees when you send with your custom one? |
| 16:42.00 | Kaso | yes |
| 16:42.07 | zenzelezz | that's pretty interesting |
| 16:42.37 | Kaso | yes it is, i didnt expect that to work |
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| 16:45.30 | Squeese | anyone know where nameplates are handled/created in the wow-ui-source ? |
| 16:46.03 | Kaso | WorldFrame iirc |
| 16:46.25 | Kaso | at least thats what theyre children of |
| 16:47.35 | Kaso | but im not sure theyre defined in the code |
| 16:47.48 | Kaso | the movement of them at least cant be controlled from lua |
| 16:47.50 | Squeese | hmm ya |
| 16:48.29 | Squeese | only got so faar as to "catch" the nameplate frames, but I'm looking todo some changes now, finding the source would be awesome |
| 16:48.38 | Squeese | not found it yet |
| 16:48.47 | zenzelezz | what do you want to do to them? |
| 16:48.56 | Squeese | add an class icon |
| 16:49.09 | Kaso | i did some playing about with them in the past, most of you had to do was reversed engineering i think |
| 16:49.20 | Squeese | kk |
| 16:49.25 | Kaso | but there are some very good addons that manipulate them now, might be worth checkign them out for pointers |
| 16:49.45 | Squeese | ya, think I have todo that :P |
| 16:49.54 | Squeese | dont want to touch Aloft though :P |
| 16:50.00 | Squeese | thats a beast >< |
| 16:51.59 | Squeese | Btw, got any tips on how to dump frames? DevTools_Dump() on frames doesnt really help any, you only get: <userdata> :P |
| 16:53.25 | Pneumatus | i use Spew, personally |
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| 16:54.03 | Aelobin | as do i |
| 16:56.46 | Squeese | cool, checking it out |
| 16:56.49 | Squeese | thanks |
| 17:01.29 | Squeese | shit, need some serious help now guys ;/ |
| 17:01.40 | Squeese | Got any tips for music? :) |
| 17:02.12 | Kaso | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hackers-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000024UPO |
| 17:05.30 | Kaso | man i hate code that i didnt comment properly |
| 17:11.14 | Squeese | holy shit, spew rocks |
| 17:12.14 | Squeese | pff to the soundtrack btw :P |
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| 17:26.57 | Kaso | What was that raid addon that used to be paid-for back in the day? |
| 17:30.10 | Shadowed | RDX Kaso |
| 17:31.25 | Kaso | thats it! |
| 17:31.41 | Kaso | was struggling to remember |
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| 17:48.23 | Shirik | anyone have a good idea on how I can obtain the certificate from an https connection? |
| 17:48.34 | Shirik | I mean obviously it must be possible, because you get the cert during the connection |
| 17:48.40 | Shirik | I just can't think of a way to actually store it |
| 17:50.08 | nevcairiel | i bet there is some https query for that, but i've never bothered with it |
| 17:52.04 | A-KO | isn't it auto added to a local certificate store already? |
| 17:52.24 | A-KO | I know chrome lets you save to a file |
| 17:52.36 | ScytheBlade1 | openssl s_client |
| 17:52.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.openssl.org/docs/apps/s_client.html |
| 17:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | namely the -showcerts option |
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| 17:54.18 | Shirik | messy, but works |
| 17:54.18 | Shirik | <3 |
| 17:54.46 | Shirik | I can't believe there is no option like in wget or something to save the certificate |
| 17:54.47 | Shirik | seems so trivial |
| 17:54.48 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll give you the complete chain |
| 17:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | wget uses openssl |
| 17:55.13 | ScytheBlade1 | why dupe functionality? ;) |
| 17:56.04 | Shirik | well I'm not exactly sure that was the purpose of s_client |
| 17:56.24 | ScytheBlade1 | no but it has that functionality |
| 17:57.10 | airtonix | shirik, i have heard of people doing this |
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| 17:57.56 | airtonix | oops, duplicate of what scytheblade said. wget leans on openssl for the certs |
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| 17:58.49 | Shirik | Of course, you know |
| 17:59.06 | Shirik | this problem would be completely eliminated if our school simply took the time to get a real certificate |
| 17:59.11 | airtonix | actually wait |
| 17:59.12 | Shirik | paid like $100 |
| 17:59.24 | zenzelezz | Shirik: you're stealing someone else's? |
| 17:59.46 | airtonix | --certificate=file |
| 17:59.47 | Shirik | no, I'm trying to trust my school's self-signed certificate on my server because it's locking up fisheye when it tries to connect to subversion |
| 17:59.55 | airtonix | http://linux.die.net/man/1/wget |
| 18:00.06 | Shirik | because fisheye doesn't trust the certificate |
| 18:00.16 | nevcairiel | people should just use cacert instead of self-signed shit :P |
| 18:00.20 | zenzelezz | a coworker of mine used to work for a company that can issue certificates or something... apparently his login still worked, he got us one in 10 minutes after we had been messing with someone else for weeks |
| 18:00.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:00.49 | Shirik | well unfortunately even if I got one, I'm not IT, and convincing them to use a certificate would be somewhat difficult |
| 18:01.11 | nevcairiel | my school actually got a "real" cert last year |
| 18:01.12 | zenzelezz | tags Shirik |
| 18:01.14 | zenzelezz | you're it now |
| 18:01.22 | Shirik | tags nevcairiel |
| 18:01.24 | Shirik | no tag backs |
| 18:01.49 | nevcairiel | yay, i'm it! |
| 18:03.10 | airtonix | here is a brilliant thing about gnomes native ftp handling...GVFS...ugly piece of sodomy...i can;t seem to control its FTP handling abilities |
| 18:03.39 | nevcairiel | thats why i just installed gFTP |
| 18:03.39 | Dagmar | Here's an idea. Stop using FTP. It's obsolete and stupid. |
| 18:03.44 | soufron_ | poy poy poy |
| 18:04.23 | airtonix | i can't |
| 18:04.37 | Shirik | FTP was a strange protocol |
| 18:04.44 | zenzelezz | it still is |
| 18:04.47 | airtonix | certain peoples websites I develop for are forced to use ftp |
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| 18:05.11 | Dagmar | I'd ask them when they plan to join the rest of the internet in the 21st century and get SCP support |
| 18:05.18 | A-KO | .... |
| 18:05.22 | airtonix | and i find useing gftp just as tedious |
| 18:05.29 | MrRuben5 | If you don't use FTP to upload files then what do you use to make changes to websites? |
| 18:05.32 | A-KO | SCP is not good when you don't want your users to have any sort of shell access |
| 18:05.43 | Dagmar | A-KO: Astonishingly, it can be done |
| 18:05.52 | A-KO | I use FTP with FTPES for my hosting customers |
| 18:06.01 | A-KO | it provides some security for them, and openness with other applications |
| 18:06.05 | A-KO | and they don't know the wiser |
| 18:06.20 | airtonix | i just need a noop setting for gvfs and im sweet |
| 18:06.29 | airtonix | anyone ever used pspad for windows? |
| 18:06.51 | airtonix | its ftp handling has a "noop server every Xsec to keep connection alive" |
| 18:11.22 | Dagmar | I generally stick with Crimson Editor under windows |
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| 18:15.43 | airtonix | its pretty annoying that gvfs ftp handling doesn't cover keeping connections alive...it just assumes the connection won't time out |
| 18:15.55 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:15.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ftp is stupid |
| 18:16.03 | Fisker | slaps ScytheBlade1 around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:16.20 | ScytheBlade1 | oh no u didunt |
| 18:16.23 | Shirik | FTP was a simple protocol for a simple time |
| 18:16.36 | A-KO | implicit FTP is fine |
| 18:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That doesn't make it any less stupid |
| 18:16.46 | A-KO | implicit ssl FTP |
| 18:16.48 | A-KO | rather |
| 18:18.04 | airtonix | in other news, tiddlywiki is awesome as far as custom PIMs go... |
| 18:19.11 | Fisker | i have nothing to say to you Shirik :( |
| 18:19.19 | Shirik | you just did |
| 18:19.23 | Fisker | you \ my <3 |
| 18:19.43 | Fisker | :(! |
| 18:20.09 | airtonix | http://itw.bidix.info/ |
| 18:20.16 | Shirik | M |
| 18:20.16 | Shirik | v |
| 18:21.10 | Shirik | m |
| 18:21.10 | Shirik | V |
| 18:21.37 | Fisker | W |
| 18:21.38 | Fisker | ^ |
| 18:21.39 | Fisker | W |
| 18:21.40 | Fisker | ^ |
| 18:21.49 | Shirik | those are not hearts |
| 18:21.57 | Fisker | your mom is a heart |
| 18:22.01 | Fisker | oooooooooh |
| 18:22.06 | Fisker | burn |
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| 18:27.47 | Shirik | lol u got dcded |
| 18:30.29 | Fisker | :( Shirik |
| 18:30.33 | Fisker | my machine crashed actually |
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| 18:55.50 | Arrowmaster | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/19/2026211/Nissan-Gives-Electric-Cars-Blade-Runner-Audio-Effect |
| 18:55.53 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 18:55.58 | industrial | awesome isnt it |
| 18:56.16 | industrial | if I ever get a car it will be electric. |
| 18:56.22 | Arrowmaster | "I will change it to a ominous hum." "I want the Jaws theme music." |
| 18:56.31 | industrial | lol |
| 18:56.46 | industrial | dun DUN dun DUN dun DUN past the sidewalk |
| 18:56.50 | zenzelezz | personally I'm opting for the Ride of the Valkyrie |
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| 19:06.16 | Shirik | as strange as that sounds Arrowmaster |
| 19:06.19 | Shirik | it's a great idea |
| 19:06.22 | Shirik | We had a similar problem just 2 days ago |
| 19:06.40 | Shirik | we got our car and within an hour almost ran someone over in the garage :P |
| 19:06.56 | Shirik | Because when it's backing up the engine does not run, and someone was working on the back |
| 19:07.02 | nevcairiel | isnt that the drivers fault..? |
| 19:07.09 | Shirik | well sure |
| 19:07.18 | Shirik | but the sound is definitely increased safety |
| 19:07.28 | Shirik | if the driver makes a mistake, at least the person behind him might not |
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| 19:07.34 | Shirik | or, will realize it |
| 19:08.24 | Shirik | though, instead of a "futuristic hum" we're just going to install that beeping thing when cars back up |
| 19:08.49 | nevcairiel | so nothing when going forward? |
| 19:08.59 | Shirik | nah |
| 19:09.06 | Shirik | we argue the driver should be able to see in front of him |
| 19:09.24 | nevcairiel | maybe you should invent a new system of mirrors for better rear-view |
| 19:09.35 | Shirik | we're on that, but it's a bit of a mess actually |
| 19:09.36 | industrial | cameras. |
| 19:09.40 | Dagmar | Ten grand says three months doesn't go by before someone's in trouble for having their car repeat a racial slur over and over |
| 19:09.42 | Shirik | it's not that simple industrial |
| 19:09.45 | Shirik | there's a few problems |
| 19:10.00 | Shirik | (1) there are strict regulations by the government on rear and side view mirrors |
| 19:10.08 | Shirik | (2) Cameras destroy any depth perception |
| 19:10.11 | Dagmar | (2) DoT are bitches |
| 19:10.21 | Shirik | (3) Cameras are much less fault tolerant than mirrors |
| 19:10.21 | industrial | make the windshield a monitor, touch screen so you can drag the cameras around and then have cameras everywhere on the car :p |
| 19:10.38 | Shirik | We discussed making the windshield a HUD actually :P |
| 19:10.41 | Shirik | But I don't think the DOT will like that |
| 19:10.50 | industrial | the what? |
| 19:10.56 | Shirik | government |
| 19:11.04 | Arrowmaster | theres luxery cars that are already like that |
| 19:11.06 | nevcairiel | I want one of those futuristic HUDs that you can drag stuff around on with hand movements |
| 19:11.08 | nevcairiel | that would rock |
| 19:11.13 | Arrowmaster | they have night vision displays in the windshield |
| 19:11.24 | Shirik | hm |
| 19:11.34 | Shirik | maybe we'll investigate it more then :P |
| 19:11.37 | Dagmar | The Department of Transportation have one thing going for them |
| 19:12.07 | Shirik | cars? |
| 19:12.10 | Dagmar | If they put their stamp of approval on something, it's been analyzed in some of the most anal-retentive ways man can devise |
| 19:12.24 | Shirik | I think the FAA is stricter than the DOT :P |
| 19:12.27 | Dagmar | I've been trying to find street legal replacement tail lights lately |
| 19:12.34 | Dagmar | It's nearly damn impossible |
| 19:12.55 | Dagmar | There's like three designs total. Everything else is original equipment replacements |
| 19:13.11 | Shirik | sounds about right |
| 19:13.30 | Dagmar | Nearly all of those fancy blue-toned headlights? Illegal. Not approved for a reason |
| 19:13.35 | Shirik | yup |
| 19:13.38 | nevcairiel | now consider what mess a car designer has to go through |
| 19:13.41 | Dagmar | Irritatingly, nearly all the LED tail lights, ALSO illegal |
| 19:13.55 | Dagmar | Not approved mainly because no one has bothered to pony up the money |
| 19:14.20 | Arrowmaster | usually those hid headlights are only legal on cars that come with them |
| 19:14.22 | Dagmar | I think I'm just going to say eff it and replace all of my incandescents but the headlamp with LEDs |
| 19:14.40 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: This would be because those lights were made to not blind people |
| 19:14.45 | Dagmar | ...which is what the DoT has an issue with |
| 19:14.55 | nevcairiel | for obvious reasons :p |
| 19:15.00 | Shirik | I got some new headlights recently, they're really interesting |
| 19:15.06 | Shirik | They're much brighter than what I had before |
| 19:15.14 | Dagmar | Might just be because they're new |
| 19:15.15 | Shirik | but I can look into them directly without even squinting |
| 19:15.27 | Shirik | they're supposedly designed to reduce glare to other drivers |
| 19:15.29 | Dagmar | Most headlamps lose a good 20-30% of their brightness in rthe first year |
| 19:15.43 | Dagmar | Ah so they make a good show of spreading out the light source then |
| 19:16.09 | Dagmar | That's the problem with most of the XTI lamps. They've got one tiny eye-scorching spot all the light comes from |
| 19:16.30 | Dagmar | Might as well be leaving a smoking line on your retina |
| 19:17.29 | A-KO | nice |
| 19:17.30 | Dagmar | I can't find anything to do something simple to fix that on the front of the bike, but I'm damn sure I can baffle the light from the turn signals and brake so I can at _least_ not be violating any provision the DoT cares about were tehy ever to test |
| 19:17.33 | A-KO | just picked up my 245 shoulders |
| 19:17.42 | Dagmar | Cool |
| 19:17.55 | Dagmar | Some guild on my server has the place on farm status and is starting to piss people off |
| 19:18.00 | A-KO | haha why? |
| 19:18.06 | A-KO | we farm the regular |
| 19:18.09 | A-KO | the heroic is more.....interesting |
| 19:18.13 | Dagmar | Any given moment, you will see one of their people with at least two lines of spam in trade trying to sell 245 gear |
| 19:18.22 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:18.46 | Dagmar | I've started offering them 100g for most of them |
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| 19:19.27 | A-KO | I just sold a helmet out of Ulduar for 2K gold last night |
| 19:19.27 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure it's a goldfarming outfit |
| 19:19.32 | A-KO | was awesome waking up in the morning |
| 19:19.39 | A-KO | to 2K gold in the mail |
| 19:19.44 | Dagmar | I can't see normal people staying up for hours in the middle of the night repeatedly hitting a chat macro |
| 19:23.22 | A-KO | sigh, resto druid trinkets are difficult to consider |
| 19:23.43 | A-KO | there's that talisman of resurgence level 245--but I usually like to have a regen trinket and an output trinket combo |
| 19:23.50 | zenzelezz | "You may create the page "Y helo thar", but consider [...]" - that is tempting, thanks for the suggestion Wikipedia |
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| 19:28.53 | Adys | in pitbull4 theres no way to reposition the pvp timer? |
| 19:28.58 | Adys | I can reposition the pvp icon but not timer |
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| 19:51.00 | malu05 | Anyone know how RatingBuster get the Item Stats? |
| 19:51.21 | Adys | tooltip scan |
| 19:51.46 | malu05 | So you can't get item stats from like item name or itemlink? |
| 19:52.29 | Adys | nop |
| 19:52.36 | malu05 | bugger =( |
| 19:52.40 | foxlit | Wait, what? |
| 19:52.42 | Adys | what do you need? |
| 19:52.43 | Fisker | i got you now Shirik |
| 19:53.15 | A-KO | well that's fucking gay |
| 19:53.24 | malu05 | well i wanted to do a whole list of "best items" in a list. |
| 19:53.31 | A-KO | vg expo's at-door ticket price is $20, and their "online" price is $15 |
| 19:53.33 | malu05 | so i need the stats |
| 19:53.44 | A-KO | but the seller they're using of tickets is charging a % convenience fee |
| 19:53.49 | foxlit | malu05: There probably is an API function |
| 19:53.50 | Adys | you mean in an ingame addon? |
| 19:53.54 | malu05 | yes |
| 19:53.55 | Adys | there isnt |
| 19:53.56 | Adys | dont bother |
| 19:54.08 | foxlit | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats |
| 19:54.49 | Adys | eh that uses tooltip scan |
| 19:55.52 | foxlit | Adys, would you like a minute to get your story together? :) |
| 19:56.19 | Adys | getitemstats is a hack that scans tooltips |
| 19:56.37 | foxlit | Fine. It's implemented where? |
| 19:56.49 | Adys | what would I know? |
| 19:57.21 | Adys | if its exactly what you need, use it, otherwise it's more efficient to scan tooltips yourself |
| 19:57.50 | foxlit | Generally, I expect there to be a correlation between how much you talk about something and how much you know about that something. |
| 19:58.11 | Adys | would that make you a scatologist? |
| 19:59.11 | jnwhiteh | Adys: how do you know that its a 'hack that scans tooltips'? |
| 19:59.39 | Adys | because I very much remember using this a while ago and getting some garbage results |
| 19:59.55 | Adys | addons interfering with tooltips etc |
| 20:00.07 | jnwhiteh | how long a while ago |
| 20:00.10 | jnwhiteh | because it was introduced in 3.2 |
| 20:00.17 | Adys | uh no idea a month or so |
| 20:00.27 | Adys | maybe more |
| 20:00.27 | foxlit | You were using it a while ago, and you didn't know that it existed. |
| 20:00.36 | foxlit | Thrilling. |
| 20:00.55 | Adys | I forgot about it, does that make you a happy girl foxie |
| 20:01.13 | jnwhiteh | I find it very difficult to believe that they would provide a native API function that somehow abuses the tooltip system to get the information. |
| 20:01.20 | jnwhiteh | I'd love to see what you were testing with. |
| 20:01.46 | Adys | what do you mean? |
| 20:01.56 | Adys | and I dont find it difficult to believe, Ive seen that happening elsewhere :P |
| 20:02.00 | jnwhiteh | Such as? |
| 20:02.41 | Adys | top off my head dont have any example but I know it's not the only function that doesn't use what it should |
| 20:03.11 | jnwhiteh | Alright.. that's not even remotely helpful or constructive >< |
| 20:03.31 | Adys | that said maybe the garbage results were just a bug and unrelated to my tooltip changes |
| 20:03.35 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:03.44 | jnwhiteh | and of course that's more unlikely O.o |
| 20:04.06 | Adys | yeah it is, I disabled my addon and it was gone |
| 20:04.55 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 20:05.03 | jnwhiteh | I don't doubt you encountered an issue |
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| 20:05.21 | jnwhiteh | I disagree wholeheartedly with you making assumptions about a (stupid) underlying implementation that no one else has seen evidence of, and you can't provide any. |
| 20:05.32 | jnwhiteh | and your 'claim' that its not the only place you've seen it |
| 20:05.39 | jnwhiteh | I'm not saying that you aren't possible correct |
| 20:05.49 | jnwhiteh | but without any information, I think it's quite a bit of a stretch |
| 20:05.57 | Adys | i work with blizzard data 24/7, I'm sorry I can't remember every hack I've seen :p |
| 20:06.04 | jnwhiteh | data ~= API |
| 20:06.10 | jnwhiteh | the data is fucked |
| 20:06.12 | jnwhiteh | we know this ;-) |
| 20:06.45 | Adys | data, internals, etc |
| 20:06.50 | Adys | all the same hacks |
| 20:07.12 | jnwhiteh | sure, okay. |
| 20:07.24 | jnwhiteh | the function provides the statistics for an item, period. |
| 20:07.36 | jnwhiteh | hopefully its useful to someone. |
| 20:07.46 | Adys | *shudders* |
| 20:07.54 | jnwhiteh | what now? |
| 20:08.05 | Adys | nothing now O_o |
| 20:08.21 | jnwhiteh | well, it seemed to me that you were shuddering in response to something I said |
| 20:08.28 | jnwhiteh | but perhaps the intarwebs had bad timing |
| 20:08.44 | Adys | thats lag |
| 20:08.54 | jnwhiteh | k =) |
| 20:08.55 | Adys | also ill test again when I get some less lazy time but I don't see what's exceptional about this kind of situation |
| 20:09.17 | Adys | afk fewd |
| 20:09.32 | jnwhiteh | It would be absurd for them to implement GetItemStats using the tooltips |
| 20:09.41 | jnwhiteh | that's what I'm disagreeing with |
| 20:09.48 | Fisker | i found out keylogging the authenticator is ez :( |
| 20:09.52 | jnwhiteh | they may have, but I see no indication that that is the case |
| 20:13.01 | Dagmar | Fisker: So what |
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| 20:14.19 | mikma | http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=582954627803 |
| 20:22.41 | malu05 | Hmm trying out the example in http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats just to roughly understand it. But it does not seem to work as i think it does. http://pastebin.com/m6aabc75a returns nothing |
| 20:23.41 | Cide- | and what does << /script print("abc"); >> do? |
| 20:23.59 | Adys | it prints "abc" Cide- |
| 20:24.09 | jnwhiteh | malu05: "Returns nothing" |
| 20:24.12 | jnwhiteh | isn't very descriptive. |
| 20:24.14 | Cide- | is it defined in vanilla wow now? |
| 20:24.19 | jnwhiteh | Cide-: yes |
| 20:24.20 | Adys | Cide-: since 3.0 |
| 20:24.24 | Cide- | ah |
| 20:24.24 | malu05 | well it does not do anything.. |
| 20:24.33 | jnwhiteh | malu05: Why are you getting stats twice? |
| 20:24.35 | malu05 | the "print" command is not called so im not sure |
| 20:24.35 | Adys | its just a DFC:AddMessage alias |
| 20:24.36 | jnwhiteh | any particular reason? |
| 20:24.55 | Cide- | /dump stats |
| 20:25.15 | mikma | malu05: /run print("test") |
| 20:25.19 | malu05 | stats = nill |
| 20:25.23 | Cide- | wow you fail mikma |
| 20:25.28 | Cide- | there's your reason |
| 20:25.34 | Aelobin | msoul: /yawn, eternal fire farming |
| 20:26.13 | mikma | cide-: shuss, trap has been set |
| 20:26.43 | malu05 | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats seem to hint that i have to use the "GetItemStats" twice.. once on the item name, then once on the result. |
| 20:26.43 | jnwhiteh | malu05: okay, you've got a lot wrong here. |
| 20:26.47 | jnwhiteh | start with this |
| 20:27.04 | Adys | (to be fair the example is kind of unclear) |
| 20:27.05 | jnwhiteh | no, it doesn't. |
| 20:27.11 | jnwhiteh | first off you need the link |
| 20:27.14 | jnwhiteh | and GetItemInfo("name of item") |
| 20:27.15 | jnwhiteh | doesn't get that |
| 20:27.37 | Adys | it does |
| 20:27.40 | Adys | if its in your bags that is |
| 20:27.51 | malu05 | ye it is |
| 20:27.51 | jnwhiteh | no, the first retyurn of GetItemInfo is not the link |
| 20:28.01 | Adys | oh, misread sorry |
| 20:28.07 | jnwhiteh | so, no that's wrong =) |
| 20:28.27 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.28 | jnwhiteh | that gets the link |
| 20:28.31 | jnwhiteh | that's step #1 |
| 20:28.38 | jnwhiteh | then /run stats = GetItemStats(reaperLink) |
| 20:29.05 | jnwhiteh | then you can /dump stats |
| 20:29.07 | jnwhiteh | to see the table. |
| 20:29.13 | malu05 | Ahh |
| 20:29.18 | malu05 | ye, i see |
| 20:29.33 | malu05 | so... i have to do it on a link? |
| 20:29.34 | jnwhiteh | then /run for stat, value in pairs(stats) do print(value, _G[stat]) end |
| 20:29.52 | jnwhiteh | yes, GetItemstats takes a link |
| 20:30.22 | malu05 | Ohh ok |
| 20:30.29 | jnwhiteh | so says the page :P |
| 20:30.56 | malu05 | ye... hehe... i just went straight to the "GetItemInfo("Greatsword of the Ebon Blade")" |
| 20:31.07 | malu05 | hehe sry.. ^^ |
| 20:31.23 | jnwhiteh | well local _, swordLink = GetItemInfo("Greatsword of the Ebon Blade") |
| 20:31.30 | jnwhiteh | that's the big problem you're having |
| 20:31.32 | jnwhiteh | the second return |
| 20:31.37 | jnwhiteh | I dunno why its written like that, i ahte that syle |
| 20:31.41 | jnwhiteh | it should be local name, swordLink |
| 20:31.43 | jnwhiteh | but *shruG* |
| 20:33.25 | malu05 | ye, was a bit fast on that one |
| 20:33.57 | Shirik | I wonder if there's a way to proxy an SVN connection |
| 20:34.08 | Dagmar | Yes |
| 20:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | It's standard HTTP |
| 20:35.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, standard DAV |
| 20:35.41 | Shirik | I want to connect to ssh://localhost/foo and have it go to https://someurl.com/path/to/foo |
| 20:35.48 | Shirik | er |
| 20:35.50 | Shirik | s/ssh/svn/ |
| 20:36.11 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, probably not |
| 20:36.15 | ScytheBlade1 | as svn != dav |
| 20:36.42 | Shirik | well I could do http:// I guess |
| 20:36.52 | Shirik | basically the problem is I need to hide the SSL |
| 20:37.09 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:37.12 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:40.19 | Shirik | I guess I could use mod_proxy to do that |
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| 20:41.35 | Dagmar | Yeah, just put a line of text at the bottom saying "<force>you do not see the https:</force>" |
| 20:41.36 | Dagmar | No problem |
| 20:41.48 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:41.53 | Shirik | problem is with fisheye |
| 20:41.56 | Shirik | it gets pissy about the cert |
| 20:42.22 | Dagmar | So force feed it a cert |
| 20:42.32 | Shirik | huh? |
| 20:43.08 | Dagmar | You don't have a CACert credential you can put to use? |
| 20:43.12 | Shirik | no |
| 20:43.14 | Shirik | it's not my cert |
| 20:43.27 | Shirik | I cannot change the remote server in any way |
| 20:43.33 | Dagmar | Check and see if this thing actually has CACert in as a root CA |
| 20:43.48 | Dagmar | Oh |
| 20:44.10 | Dagmar | I guess the answer is "write angry emails demanding the https cert be fixed" |
| 20:44.12 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 20:44.19 | Shirik | I doubt they'll be responnsive |
| 20:44.34 | Shirik | These are the same guys that throttle any webpage that does not start with "www" |
| 20:44.42 | Shirik | which, btw, does include school webpages |
| 20:45.32 | Dagmar | bummer |
| 20:45.39 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:45.40 | Dagmar | We use CACert stuff here |
| 20:45.57 | Dagmar | ...which actually is a bit more meaningful |
| 20:46.22 | Dagmar | ...because if push comes to shove, I can actually look at a cert, and call the issuers up |
| 20:47.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You control the fisheye install though, right? But not the HTTPS svn repo? |
| 20:47.18 | Shirik | correct |
| 20:47.22 | Shirik | they are two separate servers |
| 20:47.25 | Dagmar | It does make it a bit easier when it comes time to remind people to update the certs they've set up which are expiring |
| 20:47.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you should just import the cert..? |
| 20:47.41 | Shirik | I have no idea where to import / if you can import at all |
| 20:47.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be a java function, I'd assume |
| 20:47.55 | Shirik | I've searched for it and haven't found any documentation on it |
| 20:48.13 | Shirik | I created a Java keystore with the cert and supplied it to javax.ssl as the default TrustStore, but that doesn't seem to have done anything |
| 20:48.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Self-signed cert |
| 20:48.32 | ScytheBlade1 | *? |
| 20:48.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Or does it have a chain of trust? |
| 20:48.45 | Shirik | self-signed |
| 20:48.59 | Shirik | VERY self-signed |
| 20:49.03 | Shirik | like by morons |
| 20:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 20:49.10 | Shirik | they didn't even bother filling anything out |
| 20:49.21 | Shirik | it says things like OU=SomeOrganizationalUnit |
| 20:49.24 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 20:50.01 | Dagmar | Report that you think the server was hacked and that some Romanian kids with a poor grasp of English appeared to have replaced the SSL certs with their own |
| 20:50.20 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:51.11 | Dagmar | I've done it |
| 20:52.25 | Dagmar | Just don't blink and let on that you're screwing with them and you can create a lot of work with little effort |
| 20:57.13 | Shirik | :< |
| 20:57.21 | Shirik | [Sun Sep 20 16:56:02 2009] [error] [client 155.31.110.10] SSL Proxy requested for localhost:80 but not enabled [Hint: SSLProxyEngine] |
| 20:57.27 | Shirik | I was close |
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| 21:38.28 | p3lim | got some issues with singleheader raid groups and oUF, backdrop is all messed up. |
| 21:38.40 | p3lim | been too long since i made raid headers, anyone know this issue? |
| 21:39.00 | p3lim | pic here: http://upload.snelhest.org/images/090920stupidheader.jpg |
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| 21:46.01 | p3lim | hm seems I set some anchors wrong |
| 21:46.09 | p3lim | now they are overlapping instead, thats good |
| 21:50.59 | DWSR | What's the time limit on arena matches? |
| 21:58.53 | bleeter | what's this? the forum adverts are infected?? |
| 21:59.27 | bleeter | the guy's an idiot http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820329840&sid=1 but people confirming there's some infection somewhere?? lol FAILTRAIN |
| 22:00.51 | DWSR | bleeter: He's a sheeple |
| 22:08.35 | bleeter | DWSR: I seem to recall someone mentioning it yesterday... I was very hungover and didn't quite remember the details... |
| 22:08.44 | DWSR | bleeter: logs? |
| 22:08.57 | Shirik | my dad is strange |
| 22:09.03 | mikma | good |
| 22:09.16 | mikma | that might explain why you are strange, too |
| 22:09.16 | Shirik | he asks me what I'm making for dinner, I tell him "Chicken Alfredo" and his response is "You know how to do that?" |
| 22:09.25 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 22:09.27 | Shirik | "... I have chicken, and I have alfredo sauce..." |
| 22:09.35 | Seerah | hehe |
| 22:09.37 | DWSR | cooking is like lego. |
| 22:09.41 | NightHawkTheSan1 | how is that strange? :P |
| 22:09.54 | Shirik | what kind of question is that! |
| 22:09.57 | Shirik | How can you screw that up |
| 22:09.59 | Seerah | dinner party tonight... Pork Butt Roast, Penne with Vodka sauce, and cheesecake |
| 22:10.03 | NightHawkTheSan1 | you'd be surprised. |
| 22:10.42 | NightHawkTheSan1 | that sounds delicious Seerah |
| 22:10.48 | Fisker | sådan var det ikke da jeg var bademester Shirik |
| 22:11.05 | Shirik | Shirik is the badmeister? |
| 22:11.36 | Shirik | what does å sound like anyway? |
| 22:12.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ã
? |
| 22:12.22 | mikma | it's "o" |
| 22:12.24 | Fisker | something like oh without the h-end i guess |
| 22:12.36 | mikma | håkan = "hookan" |
| 22:14.15 | Fisker | godnat Shirik |
| 22:16.28 | Shirik | you know |
| 22:16.33 | Shirik | wikipedia is OP |
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| 22:18.54 | DWSR | ? |
| 22:21.41 | DWSR | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/sillies.php <- Is it sad that I've seen a druid like this? |
| 22:21.57 | Fisker | it's sad you've seen cad-comic |
| 22:22.59 | jnwhiteh | "LIGHTHEADED USES TOO MUCH MEMORY" |
| 22:23.05 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:23.15 | jnwhiteh | "run this command that creates 256MB of addon garbage, and see if your FPS even fluctuates after the initial execution" |
| 22:23.19 | jnwhiteh | "uhhh....." |
| 22:23.21 | A-KO | I met a warrior a long time ago that didn't have some tanking ability |
| 22:23.24 | A-KO | one of his stances |
| 22:23.30 | jnwhiteh | "LIGHTHEADED USES TOO MUCH CPU" |
| 22:23.33 | jnwhiteh | *forehead* |
| 22:23.45 | jnwhiteh | that's how I think this conversation will end :P |
| 22:24.04 | A-KO | tell him not to use addons then? :P |
| 22:24.11 | A-KO | or buy a better computer |
| 22:24.40 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Sorry, but LH is a bit of a hog. |
| 22:24.42 | DWSR | OH |
| 22:24.48 | DWSR | btw, jnwhiteh: LH + DW has a bug. |
| 22:24.59 | DWSR | It breaks the QuestLog frame. |
| 22:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | erm, isn't DW a bit obselete now, as the quest log is double wide by default? |
| 22:26.59 | ScytheBlade1 | or did it do extra stuff? |
| 22:28.21 | DWSR | ScytheBlade1: Still shouldn't break the frame. :P |
| 22:28.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I disagree |
| 22:28.35 | DWSR | And it does do extra stuff, iirc. The layout of the frame's a bit different. |
| 22:28.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Second, update LH from the DW comments |
| 22:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, DW is functionally dead now, I'd wager |
| 22:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | but Iriel isn't here to confirm |
| 22:31.40 | Shirik | it has no purpose now, no? |
| 22:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I gathered |
| 22:38.17 | Shirik | wtb way to MIM SSL connections for debugging :( |
| 22:38.49 | DWSR | certificate escrow? |
| 22:39.22 | bleeter | anyone got their RayV/DTV Grunty yet? |
| 22:40.11 | DWSR | Shirik: If you have the certificate of the server, can't you MIM the SSL connection? |
| 22:40.36 | Adys | how do I prevent specific modules from showing on some units in pitbull4? I dont want to show buffs for example on my focus' target |
| 22:40.36 | Shirik | I have the public certificate |
| 22:41.02 | DWSR | Adys: Auras tab, just uncheck enable. |
| 22:41.16 | DWSR | Adys: There is an enable checkbox for every module, just need to find it. |
| 22:41.33 | Adys | only for a specific unit DWSR |
| 22:42.38 | DWSR | Adys: Layout panel. |
| 22:42.46 | DWSR | It does it for a specific layout. |
| 22:42.49 | Shirik | lua> 632 * 1024 * 8 / 32 |
| 22:42.49 | lua_bot | Shirik: 161792 |
| 22:43.04 | Shirik | lua> 161792 / 60 / 60 |
| 22:43.04 | lua_bot | Shirik: 44.942222222222 |
| 22:43.06 | DWSR | afaik, you can't do it for a specific unit using a layout. |
| 22:43.06 | Shirik | oi |
| 22:43.12 | Shirik | It's going to take nearly 2 days to check out |
| 22:43.13 | Shirik | wtf |
| 22:43.24 | DWSR | i.e. if your focus and target are using the same layout, you have to create a clone of the layoutr |
| 22:43.29 | DWSR | in order to change it |
| 22:45.57 | bleeter | ZorbaTHut: Any ideas why QH would be spewing what looks like debug info onto a 3rd chat pane (or more precisely how I might be able to stop it without zapping my SV)? |
| 22:46.32 | Adys | DWSR: Right, i see now |
| 22:46.46 | DWSR | Adys: I probably wasn't specific enough, but glad you found it. |
| 22:46.54 | Adys | no i didnt find it |
| 22:46.57 | Adys | but i see how it works now |
| 22:46.58 | DWSR | lol |
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| 22:55.04 | Adys | anyone remembers the mage hitcap? |
| 22:56.50 | smcn | 446 - (26.23 * x) where X is the percentage you get from talents/debuffs/etc |
| 22:57.15 | smcn | there's also a chart at http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit |
| 22:57.52 | DWSR | Adys: 446 is the hard hit cap for spells. |
| 22:58.07 | DWSR | Mages get 3% hit from spells, and 6% if you're arcane. |
| 22:58.08 | Adys | ok so 368 for mage |
| 22:58.37 | DWSR | Also, you can subtract another 3% if you have a boomkin/spriest in your raid, and an additional 1% if you have a draenei in your party. |
| 22:59.36 | ScytheBlade1 | no, mages get 3% from talents, IF you spec it |
| 22:59.48 | Adys | thanks for sharing ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | TotW/F(F)B lack any +hit from talents |
| 23:00.01 | ScytheBlade1 | s/lack/lacks/ |
| 23:00.02 | Adys | totw? |
| 23:00.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Torment of the Weak |
| 23:00.13 | Adys | its torment the weak |
| 23:00.19 | DWSR | SB1: iirc, arcane has an additional 3%. |
| 23:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, that |
| 23:00.25 | Adys | and how's that related? |
| 23:00.34 | Adys | ttw is a % dmg bonus |
| 23:00.47 | ScytheBlade1 | if you take it, you can't take the +hit talent for your other trees |
| 23:00.54 | ScytheBlade1 | not enough points |
| 23:00.58 | Adys | uh |
| 23:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | making the cap the full 17% |
| 23:00.59 | Adys | ffb doesnt |
| 23:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ffb absolutely can |
| 23:01.29 | Adys | ffb's frost tree is 303 303 031 :P |
| 23:01.54 | DWSR | Arcane mage with Arcane Focus, Improved Faerie Fire/Misery and Precision |
| 23:02.13 | DWSR | Draenei Arcane mage with Arcane Focus, Heroic Presence, Improved Faerie Fire/Misery and Precision <-- 184, the absolute minimum that you need. |
| 23:02.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Your second 3 in your second 303 is +hit |
| 23:02.20 | Adys | yes |
| 23:02.23 | Adys | thats what i meant |
| 23:02.29 | ScytheBlade1 | that's exactly what I said! |
| 23:02.32 | Adys | ffb doesnt lack +hit from talents |
| 23:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | 19:00 < ScytheBlade1> ffb absolutely can |
| 23:02.34 | Adys | [02:00:04] <purl> ScytheBlade1 meant: TotW/F(F)B lacks any +hit from talents |
| 23:02.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Read the torment part |
| 23:02.52 | Adys | oh right |
| 23:02.54 | Adys | misunderstood |
| 23:03.01 | ScytheBlade1 | kk |
| 23:03.07 | bleeter | http://users.on.net/~bleeter/pix/star_trek_beanies.jpg |
| 23:03.45 | DWSR | AHAHAHA |
| 23:03.50 | DWSR | I don't know why that's funny. |
| 23:15.02 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: that'd be funny with the beanie from Firefly. :D |
| 23:20.24 | p3lim | http://upload.snelhest.org/images/090921001417.jpg |
| 23:20.29 | p3lim | wups, wrong window |
| 23:20.54 | DWSR | Nice looking UI. :) |
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| 23:22.35 | p3lim | DWSR: thanks |
| 23:22.45 | DWSR | Mine's kinda ugly. |
| 23:22.48 | DWSR | But hey, it works. |
| 23:22.57 | DWSR | It's also significantly more verbose than yours. :P |
| 23:23.00 | p3lim | im both a minimalist and a perfectionist lol |
| 23:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | huh. http://www.wowhead.com/?blog=120322 |
| 23:23.09 | p3lim | 1 button and its clutter |
| 23:23.16 | p3lim | 1 pixel wrong and I go crazy |
| 23:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Are the vast majority of those item/achieve/quest links just numbers for anyone else? |
| 23:23.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ie |
| 23:23.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "For many players, completing the Brewfest achievements will finally earn them (Achievement #2145), so we can expect to start seeing some beautiful (Spell #60024)s flying around!" |
| 23:23.43 | p3lim | nah |
| 23:23.49 | p3lim | you might have javascript blocked |
| 23:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I do not |
| 23:24.21 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: They are for me, but they always have been. |
| 23:25.15 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:25.17 | Shirik | halp me |
| 23:25.57 | Shirik | Repository #1: -rw-r--r-- 1 svn svn 0 Sep 20 18:47 txn-current-lock |
| 23:26.01 | Shirik | Repository #2: -rw-r--r-- 1 svn svn 0 Aug 10 00:49 txn-current-lock |
| 23:26.35 | Shirik | When working on repository #1: svn: Can't open file '/var/svn/repos/ecocar-test/db/txn-current-lock': Permission denied |
| 23:26.42 | Shirik | Repository #2 works fine |
| 23:26.45 | Shirik | wtfhax? |
| 23:27.27 | DWSR | Shirik |
| 23:27.37 | DWSR | chmod -R |
| 23:27.44 | DWSR | Your permission might not be homogenous |
| 23:28.05 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:28.11 | Shirik | what does that mean |
| 23:28.32 | DWSR | Meaning one of the subfolders might not be -rw-r--r-- |
| 23:28.41 | DWSR | which would cause your permission denied. |
| 23:29.36 | Shirik | #1: drwxr-sr-x 6 svn svn 1024 Sep 20 18:47 db |
| 23:29.38 | Shirik | #2 drwxr-s--- 7 svn svn 1024 Sep 14 22:02 db |
| 23:29.43 | Shirik | Beyond that, they're the same folder |
| 23:29.51 | Shirik | and that should be /more/ permissions |
| 23:30.07 | DWSR | global has no read. |
| 23:30.09 | DWSR | On #2. |
| 23:30.15 | Shirik | #2 is the working one |
| 23:30.20 | DWSR | ah, sorry, misread. |
| 23:30.44 | ScytheBlade1 | If you still can't figure it out, strace on the server |
| 23:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | -feopen |
| 23:30.52 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:30.56 | Shirik | I think I just figured it out |
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| 23:31.28 | DWSR | Are you sure that all of the subfolders are all the same permissions as the those? |
| 23:32.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:32.41 | Shirik | it was because I checked out as file://... |
| 23:32.47 | DWSR | ... |
| 23:32.48 | Shirik | so it was running as me, not svn daemon |
| 23:32.49 | DWSR | You fucking fail sir. |
| 23:32.55 | DWSR | :P |
| 23:40.07 | Thunder_Child | still stating the obvious DWSR? |
| 23:40.45 | DWSR | Obvious troll is obvious. |
| 23:40.48 | DWSR | Just being true to nature. |
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| 23:43.06 | Adys | Mikk: oi |
| 23:50.09 | Jerub | has anyone been able to confirm that after getting the dancing drunk in dalaran achievemnt that you can trade in the clothes? |
| 23:50.21 | Adys | yes |
| 23:50.27 | Jerub | excellent |
| 23:52.39 | alestane | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 23:52.39 | purl | ACTION jumps into Lopeppeppy's lap and huggles and *hugs* Lopeppeppy |
