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| 00:15.41 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcvv7D9lZXQ&feature=related |
| 00:20.23 | tem | what's gay about TotGC is that you only get 2 peices of set gear per week |
| 00:20.40 | tem | lua> 25*5/2 |
| 00:20.41 | lua_bot | tem: 62.5 |
| 00:20.58 | tem | 63 weeks to get a raid a full set of grand crusader gear |
| 00:22.26 | Kraps | thats, like, more than a like, year, like |
| 00:24.13 | Jerub | yeah, it's suck. |
| 00:24.46 | Jerub | someone worked out how much it would cost to use the 3 day turnaround realm transfers to farm raids. |
| 00:25.02 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOut22jOv6c |
| 00:25.15 | Jerub | http://www.unbearably.net/2009/08/26/have-money-will-transfer/ |
| 00:26.12 | Kraps | What few players realize is that all of your raids and dungeons reset when you transfer realms. |
| 00:26.21 | Kraps | i didnt know that |
| 00:27.41 | Jerub | tem: I guess the idea is that you buy the T9.232 ones with your mountains of tokens, and slowly swap them out for the T9.245 and T9.258 items. |
| 00:28.02 | tem | I don't want to waste tokens on 232 gear |
| 00:28.09 | tem | especially not UGLY 232 gear |
| 00:28.33 | tem | and I'm not a fan of spending SEVENTY badges PLUS A TOKEN for a single peice of 245 gear either |
| 00:28.37 | Jerub | lol, i'm sitting pretty on 16 triumph tokens, lusting after my first T9.238 |
| 00:28.50 | tem | *shrug* I just hate this whole raid teir |
| 00:28.55 | tem | I can't wait to move on to Icecrown |
| 00:29.09 | Thunder_Child | stop caring how it looks |
| 00:29.20 | tem | *glare* |
| 00:29.22 | Jerub | i don't know how any of my gear looks. I'm always a tree or a cat. |
| 00:29.45 | Lopeppeppy | If gear keeps my friends alive, I wear it. I wore cloth back in Molten Core. |
| 00:29.52 | Jerub | ... the most annoying thing is forgetting to equip your weapon instead of your lance.... |
| 00:38.02 | kd3 | grr |
| 00:38.14 | kd3 | need to yell at zorba to get QH's stupid auto-announce turned off |
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| 00:39.49 | Thunder_Child | interesting....newegg's new "egg saver" shiping is using DHL to ship to the customers nearest USPS office |
| 00:41.03 | WobWork | Jerub: put your main weapon on your hotbar |
| 00:41.36 | kd3 | Thunder_Child, it's called 'smart ship'. woot does the same thing via fedex |
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| 00:42.00 | Thunder_Child | kd3, very nifty |
| 00:42.06 | Jerub | WobWork: for my tree, that's a good idea. i don't use the hotbar at all. |
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| 01:17.06 | WobWork | narf |
| 01:17.26 | Jerub | good evening pinky. |
| 01:17.40 | MentalPower | smart ship? |
| 01:17.51 | MentalPower | what the hell does that mean? |
| 01:18.21 | Jerub | interesting....newegg's new "egg saver" shiping is using DHL to ship to the customers nearest USPS office |
| 01:18.34 | Jerub | er, missed the <Thunder_Child> at the start of that |
| 01:18.54 | MentalPower | yeah, I read that, but how does that save them money? |
| 01:19.14 | Jerub | because it's cheaper to post locally with USPS than it is for DHL to go the last mile, i would think. |
| 01:19.22 | MentalPower | and more importantly, why does the USPS accept those packages |
| 01:19.27 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe DHL is giving a break because it's all to one local address, not a zillion. |
| 01:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | USPS is having... difficulties with revenue lately. |
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| 01:23.20 | Dagmar | Jerub: I *despise* that "UPS Innovations" method |
| 01:23.42 | Dagmar | For small stuff you might as well just have it shipped USPS becasue it'll arrive in about the same amount of time |
| 01:23.54 | Jerub | Dagmar: man, i'm australian. |
| 01:23.57 | Dagmar | ...and the tracking system they use is fairly useless anyway |
| 01:23.59 | Pytlask | Hmm. Is anyone familiar enough with Linux to know why a DVD wouldn't be detected at all? (Normal CDs work just fine) |
| 01:24.07 | Jerub | Dagmar: the only experience i have with these carriers is americans mailing stuff to here. :D |
| 01:24.15 | Dagmar | Pytlask: Some use a dye that's simply not visible to DVD burners |
| 01:24.27 | Jerub | Pytlask: could be a huge number of things. |
| 01:24.44 | Lopeppeppy | Could just be a single bad disk |
| 01:24.49 | Jerub | Pytlask: does it work in windows? ;) |
| 01:24.52 | Dagmar | I've got a few 99-cent DVDs of old kung-fu movies I got at Kroger's which I had to stick in an actual DVD player and rip that way |
| 01:24.59 | Pytlask | Well, the drive worked fine for playing DVDs under Windows, so I don't believe it is a hardware problem |
| 01:25.19 | Lopeppeppy | Is it only that disk, or all disks? |
| 01:25.23 | Dagmar | Pytlask: So basically the thing spins like mad for a bit and hten stops, pretends nothing's in there |
| 01:25.29 | Jerub | Pytlask: okay, so it's a video disc? |
| 01:25.31 | Pytlask | Doesn't even spin |
| 01:25.37 | Pytlask | That's the strange thing... |
| 01:25.43 | Dagmar | Dye issue |
| 01:25.44 | Jerub | doesn't even spin? that's insane. |
| 01:25.53 | Pytlask | Works fine for normal CDs, doesn't even appear to detect anything in the drive when I put in a dvd |
| 01:26.12 | Dagmar | Yeah it's the disc itself |
| 01:26.12 | Lopeppeppy | Drivers, it doesn't know about dvds I'd guess |
| 01:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | If it's all dvd's and not just that one. |
| 01:26.31 | Dagmar | The two I have look like the shiny stuff was just sprayed on judging by it's appearance at the outer edges |
| 01:26.47 | Dagmar | No burner will "see" them, but any P.O.S DVD player will detect them fine |
| 01:27.42 | Pytlask | Strangely, it's supposed to be a DVD player drive. (I have a separate one thats R/RW) |
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| 01:30.59 | Dagmar | Jackie Chan DVD? |
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| 01:31.58 | Pytlask | Hmm, the "Special Features" dvd from the same pack is detected (though I still haven't gotten it working) while the movie itself is not |
| 01:31.59 | Pytlask | boggles |
| 01:32.22 | Jerub | Pytlask: what are you trying to use to play it? |
| 01:32.53 | Pytlask | Totem. Though currently, the problem is that the computer thinks there is "No media in the drive" |
| 01:33.08 | Jerub | hehe, totem. |
| 01:33.19 | Dagmar | If the optical drive behaves oddly with it, you're just sunk |
| 01:33.20 | Jerub | i've seen totem play a video only the once. |
| 01:33.50 | Jerub | imho dvds are just a video transport. they should be ripped and archived for posterity. |
| 01:33.52 | Pytlask | (Once the computer is actually able to detect that there IS a disk in there, I plan on getting it to work with VLC. But nothing can do much while the system is telling programs that there is no disk whatsoever) |
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| 01:40.07 | WobWork | The procedure 'sys.sp_addrolemember' cannot be executed within a transaction. |
| 01:40.09 | WobWork | ararararargh |
| 02:06.00 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.01 | Kraps | http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/aladin/ <<<<GTFO |
| 02:08.27 | Kraps | USING 1 L MAKES YOU LEGIT BRO |
| 02:13.12 | Kraps | sorry about that |
| 02:14.09 | Jerub | lolford. |
| 02:16.40 | Jerub | http://www.smh.com.au/national/pplater-naked-at-wheel-in-fatal-crash-20090908-fewm.html |
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| 02:22.04 | Corrodias | what is "culpable driving"? |
| 02:22.27 | Jerub | Corrodias: being an idiot |
| 02:22.54 | Corrodias | if you say so, but then her admission of "''But this time I was very stupid.''" is going to make the not-guilty plea hard to defend. |
| 02:28.35 | WobWork | "this time"? |
| 02:32.32 | Jerub | it's all a matter of what to convict her of, not will she be innocent or guilty. |
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| 02:34.31 | WobWork | I need an analogy |
| 02:34.39 | WobWork | I posted a link to the macro explaining site |
| 02:34.59 | WobWork | that you paste in a macro, and it breaks it down and explains what each of the modifiers do |
| 02:35.22 | WobWork | and someone went and pasted in a /run script to calculate some complex parry statistic |
| 02:35.26 | WobWork | and complained it didn't work |
| 02:35.49 | WobWork | so I need an analogy to explain why that was a stupid expectation =P |
| 02:36.54 | Jerub | oh that's easy. |
| 02:37.04 | WobWork | So far I have "Well, that's like asking a librarian to fully explain quantum physics and it's effects on a post war agrarian polecat society, just because there are books covering the various subjects in the library.." |
| 02:37.13 | Jerub | WobWork: you don't throw blueprints at an architect, you throw them at a builder. |
| 02:37.24 | Jerub | the website is an architect, not a builder. |
| 02:37.29 | WobWork | woo nice |
| 02:37.38 | WobWork | I wonder if I can work a polecat agrarian society into that one |
| 02:38.04 | WobWork | ta Jerub |
| 02:38.07 | Jerub | nps |
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| 02:41.59 | Gnarfoz | Anyone around who knows about "the" Wild Growth bug with macro options (especially: mouseover macros fail to work when you currently have a unit targetted that's hostile or OOR. you get an OOR error even though your macro should cast on your mouseover unit)? |
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| 02:50.07 | Shirik | rawr |
| 02:50.12 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 02:50.24 | Shirik | attacks Gryphen |
| 02:50.28 | Gryphen | attacks Shirik |
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| 02:52.31 | Shirik | Force it!!! |
| 02:52.31 | Shirik | If it breaks, well, it wasn't working anyway... |
| 02:52.31 | Shirik | No, don't force it, get a bigger hammer. |
| 02:52.36 | Shirik | fortune is so strange... |
| 02:53.04 | MentalPower | ~seen Nechckn |
| 02:53.04 | purl | nechckn <n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Admin/Nechckn> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 11d 3h 55m 4s ago, saying: 'Happy Sales'. |
| 02:53.07 | Dagmar | echo "fortune -o" >> /root/.profile |
| 02:53.29 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ fortune -o |
| 02:53.29 | Shirik | No fortunes found |
| 02:53.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:53.55 | Dagmar | Your distro is wussy |
| 02:54.13 | bleeter | fortune -o |
| 02:54.13 | bleeter | fortune: invalid option -- 'o' |
| 02:54.13 | bleeter | fortune-mod version 9708 |
| 02:54.14 | bleeter | fortune [-afilsw] [-m pattern] [-n number] [ [#%] file/directory/all] |
| 02:54.30 | Shirik | -o Choose only from potentially offensive aphorisms. The -o option |
| 02:54.30 | Shirik | is ignored if a fortune directory is specified. |
| 02:54.38 | Dagmar | On distros used by Real Men, that selects from offensive aphorisms only. |
| 02:54.54 | Shirik | Dagmar, I think it's just that the offensive fortunes are in a different package that I haven't installed |
| 02:54.58 | Dagmar | It's a great way to keep yourself out of the habit of sitting around doing things as root unless you need to |
| 02:55.15 | Dagmar | ...until, of course, you're having to give a lacture on a 25 foot projection screen. |
| 02:55.19 | Dagmar | yay. |
| 02:55.20 | bleeter | there was a time when there was no such thing as the -o switch :( |
| 02:55.29 | bleeter | real men use that version :P |
| 02:55.30 | Dagmar | bleeter: Was it "the 80's"? |
| 02:55.46 | Shirik | bleeter |
| 02:55.48 | Shirik | your version number |
| 02:55.59 | Shirik | is so old, it isn't even comparable to mine |
| 02:56.05 | WobWork | those were the days when you just yelled the offensive aphroisms down the phoneline |
| 02:56.08 | Shirik | fortune-mod version 1.99.1 |
| 02:56.08 | Shirik | fortune [-afilosw] [-m pattern] [-n number] [ [#%] file/directory/all] |
| 02:56.57 | bleeter | what can I say |
| 02:57.00 | bleeter | every distro sucks |
| 02:57.06 | bleeter | and you all know that's true |
| 02:57.35 | bleeter | could be worse, I guess.. could be w7 masquerading as a release |
| 02:57.44 | bleeter | or WME |
| 02:58.52 | bleeter | WobWork: I sentence you to fourteen years in Rowville |
| 02:58.58 | bleeter | aka Vista |
| 03:00.50 | WobWork | is already running W7 |
| 03:01.08 | WobWork | has a friend with an MSDN subscription |
| 03:01.17 | Dagmar | just downloaded it for free. |
| 03:07.39 | bleeter | Shirik: btw, totally comparable |
| 03:07.52 | Shirik | 9708 > 1.99.1? |
| 03:07.53 | bleeter | $ fortune -v |
| 03:07.54 | bleeter | fortune-mod version 9708 |
| 03:07.57 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.57 | bleeter | fortune-mod-1.99.1-12.fc11.x86_64 |
| 03:08.01 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 03:08.08 | Shirik | why does yours say 9708 o.ol |
| 03:08.14 | Shirik | I blame fedora |
| 03:08.35 | bleeter | well I went to the place the rpm says it got it's source from and it 404'd ... http://www.redellipse.net/code/fortune |
| 03:08.50 | bleeter | 9708 sounds like an svn # |
| 03:08.52 | bleeter | or cvs |
| 03:09.32 | bleeter | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/games/amusements/fortune/ |
| 03:09.48 | Shirik | games? |
| 03:09.52 | Dagmar | Yeah you really have to dig around in some dust-covered sites to find that one |
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| 03:10.25 | Shirik | aha, here it is Dagmar |
| 03:10.27 | Shirik | it's a USE flag |
| 03:10.30 | Shirik | [ebuild R ] games-misc/fortune-mod-1.99.1-r2 USE="-offensive" 0 kB |
| 03:11.16 | Shirik | and why is fortune-mod considered a game... |
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| 03:11.39 | bleeter | amusement is under games |
| 03:11.56 | bleeter | where would you put it? |
| 03:12.37 | Shirik | I don't know, I'm not a Linux guru |
| 03:13.18 | Shirik | I barely know how to use grep |
| 03:13.24 | bleeter | http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/ look down the left hand side at 'linux archives' |
| 03:13.30 | bleeter | grep is not a requirement to read a web page :P |
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| 03:14.10 | Dagmar | That depends on how much is ont he page |
| 03:16.05 | Dagmar | Be nice to ibiblio. I remember when it was new. |
| 03:16.09 | Dagmar | Barely. |
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| 03:23.41 | bleeter | wb Shirik |
| 03:23.49 | Shirik | screw brighthouse |
| 03:26.41 | bleeter | Dagmar: I remember when sunsite.unc.edu was new :P |
| 03:26.54 | Dagmar | Same here |
| 03:27.04 | Dagmar | They had PICTURES |
| 03:27.08 | Dagmar | w00t! |
| 03:27.44 | NiLon | hmm.. nice critter ganked me |
| 03:27.48 | Dagmar | Little did we know what NCSA was protecting us from |
| 03:27.56 | NiLon | freeking frog :D |
| 03:28.04 | Dagmar | You got ganked by a frog |
| 03:28.26 | bleeter | Dagmar: I recall trying to 'pick up' WXYC and giving up in disgust lol |
| 03:29.58 | WobWork | *bleeter sidles up to WXYC*: So... come here often? |
| 03:30.01 | bleeter | it was around that time I learned the phrase 'goddamn sun!' |
| 03:33.00 | bleeter | WobWork: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/08/2679625.htm |
| 03:33.58 | Yssaril | is there a function that tells me what type of weapon a weapon is? (sword/mace/polearm/etc) |
| 03:41.11 | Dagmar | subtype afaik |
| 03:41.52 | WobWork | .... |
| 03:41.58 | WobWork | I read that as Fisker policy |
| 03:42.08 | WobWork | but then I read the article and it's worse =P |
| 03:42.20 | Tresh_0094 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 03:42.58 | Dagmar | WobWork: Yeah, that's _all_ the country needs to put an end to it |
| 03:43.17 | kdtresh | as dagmar said, itemsubtype is the value you want, yssaril |
| 03:43.35 | Dagmar | Ah I more hinted than anything else |
| 03:43.54 | Dagmar | I've not used it directly, just accessed it through the data structures of other programs |
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| 03:44.26 | kdtresh | i haven't used it either, but it looks like the right answer |
| 03:45.37 | bleeter | 3.2.2 tonight? |
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| 03:49.56 | WobWork | bleeter: I dunno |
| 03:50.04 | WobWork | on one hand, It's a spelling mistake on the fly |
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| 03:50.18 | WobWork | on the other hand, he volunteered the spelling |
| 03:50.25 | WobWork | and mispronounced it in the first place |
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| 03:50.43 | WobWork | I haven't heard the sound bite, so it could be completely different =) |
| 03:50.51 | WobWork | (no sound on this comp) |
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| 03:52.58 | bleeter | WobWork: well, he's a nutter... |
| 03:55.06 | bleeter | anyways |
| 03:55.35 | bleeter | the more I look at this beancounter+AH receipt crash, the more I think I can trigger it 100% if I have beancounter and prat running when I first scan the mail with an AH receipt |
| 03:56.05 | bleeter | which is ... odd |
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| 04:12.25 | bleeter | WoW Winers (Adys, kd3, Shirik etc.): Could you guys humour me, please? Install Beancounter/Auctioneer and Prat. Buy something from the AH. Go pick it up from the Mailbox. |
| 04:12.58 | Jerub | bleeter: do you mean from SVN? or a release? |
| 04:13.01 | Dagmar | thinks talking histograms are scarey |
| 04:13.11 | bleeter | Jerub: don't think it really matters |
| 04:13.52 | bleeter | Jerub: but release would be best, I guess. |
| 04:14.42 | kd3 | ponders |
| 04:14.49 | kd3 | prat too? |
| 04:14.55 | kd3 | I've got bc/auc installed |
| 04:15.10 | bleeter | kd3: yup |
| 04:15.20 | WobWork | bleeter: My WoW used to crash when opening my mailbox and BC wanting to scan stuff |
| 04:15.34 | WobWork | it'd open the mailbox fine upon relogging in |
| 04:16.01 | bleeter | WobWork: yeah, I'm trying to work out the cause. best I've got so far is whenever prat's loaded, I have troubles. that's not to say troubles don't happen with other addons, too... just, this is the best I've come up with so far. |
| 04:16.14 | WobWork | I've not got prat installed though |
| 04:16.19 | WobWork | (and not running wine) |
| 04:16.50 | bleeter | WobWork: could easily be some interaction type thing that this combo triggers, or other combos |
| 04:17.01 | bleeter | I've been trying to work the problem on and off for... months now |
| 04:17.18 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if there will be an Aion Open Beta event for Europeans? |
| 04:17.22 | bleeter | WobWork: given the aussie exchange rate, I ponied up 6 months subs. figure I may as well work this bug ;) |
| 04:17.27 | kd3 | crap. nvidia driver updates |
| 04:18.00 | Dagmar | hugs himself and rocks back and forth, clearly terrified. |
| 04:18.41 | bleeter | Dagmar: this is different from standard in which respect? ;) |
| 04:19.10 | Dagmar | I dunno. I'm just acting out. |
| 04:19.19 | Dagmar | I actually never have issues with nVidia drivers under XP or Linux |
| 04:19.33 | sylvanaar | well - i run both beancounter and prat |
| 04:20.57 | Dagmar | For some reason the people who;ve had driver problems never want to hear that tho |
| 04:20.59 | bleeter | sylvanaar: under Wine? |
| 04:21.07 | sylvanaar | <--- |
| 04:21.24 | sylvanaar | maybe, a bottle of wine |
| 04:21.28 | bleeter | heh |
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| 04:23.17 | bleeter | kd3: I told you about the hardware update earlier! :P |
| 04:23.56 | kd3 | ya, ya, I was lazy |
| 04:24.10 | bleeter | I bet you won't even make me a coffee now! |
| 04:25.17 | kd3 | whee, an auction up for 15c |
| 04:25.59 | kd3 | crap, beancounter |
| 04:27.30 | kd3 | yup crash |
| 04:27.33 | kd3 | way to go beancounter |
| 04:27.44 | kd3 | wine: Unhandled page fault on read access to 0x0000000d at address 0x7d051b (thread 002d), starting debugger... |
| 04:27.47 | Dagmar | MAH BEENS! |
| 04:28.31 | bleeter | kd3: yay, it's not in my head! |
| 04:29.25 | ajmitch | bleeter: I've never used prat & still get things exploding like that |
| 04:29.39 | kd3 | turns off prat and tries again |
| 04:30.42 | ajmitch | but still, certainly not every time for me, and far more likely on some characters than others |
| 04:30.59 | Shirik | carbonite detects private servers? |
| 04:31.21 | Shirik | anyone know how? |
| 04:31.47 | bleeter | ajmitch: fair enough, it'd be interexting if I could get a list of the addons you use, I could then work on which combo causes it on your side |
| 04:32.16 | bleeter | ajmitch: if you could email your addon list to bleeter@gmail.com, it'd be ever so awesome of you :D |
| 04:32.33 | bleeter | Shirik: wasn't there some routine added in 3.2? |
| 04:33.01 | sylvanaar | luarocks! |
| 04:33.01 | bleeter | coz I remember making a joke about it and someone sugegsted a routine in the next version of live could be used to do it |
| 04:33.19 | bleeter | maybe it was jnwhiteh who made the suggestion *puzzle* |
| 04:33.40 | ajmitch | bleeter: that'll require me to dive into the mess of what's actually enabled & various versions :) |
| 04:34.00 | bleeter | ajmitch: email addons.txt to me from the toon that crashes? :P |
| 04:34.21 | ajmitch | alright |
| 04:34.48 | kd3 | it apparently does require prat |
| 04:34.52 | kd3 | and auc and bc |
| 04:35.00 | kd3 | nothing else I've got can replicate the crash |
| 04:35.27 | bleeter | kd3: maybe not *require* prat, but something the interaction does causes the crash |
| 04:35.44 | bleeter | ie, the interaction might be replicated in some other combo + beancounter, hence ajmitch's report |
| 04:36.04 | kd3 | but anyway, there you go |
| 04:36.15 | ajmitch | bleeter: sent |
| 04:36.18 | bleeter | kd3: thx mate, you've no idea how much I appreciate your replication |
| 04:36.27 | bleeter | ajmitch: thanks |
| 04:37.00 | bleeter | kinda makes me wonder what Prat would be doing near mailbox receipts from the AH... |
| 04:37.09 | bleeter | or, what other addons ajmitch has |
| 04:37.23 | ajmitch | a small pile, nothing unusual though |
| 04:38.04 | kd3 | anyway, with that. time to catch up on zzzs |
| 04:38.11 | bleeter | kd3: thx again, happy zzzs |
| 04:38.16 | ajmitch | looks like the character-specific one doesn't list beancounter/auctioneer |
| 04:38.17 | bleeter | ajmitch: could be a library shared |
| 04:38.49 | bleeter | ajmitch: oh you're right, thought they did. can you send the realm specific one as well, please? |
| 04:39.27 | bleeter | wait, hang on |
| 04:39.31 | bleeter | that's not how it works... /sigh |
| 04:39.57 | bleeter | ajmitch: did you turn it off 'coz it crashed? |
| 04:40.01 | ajmitch | nope |
| 04:40.09 | ajmitch | I still use it on that character |
| 04:40.32 | ajmitch | it's one of the addons enabled for all |
| 04:42.24 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=33357 "head asplodes" |
| 04:42.49 | Kraps | someone dropped it in front of ToC |
| 04:46.47 | Jerub | wow, just talking to a guildy. While I was wiping on Argent Confessor in HToC last night, they had 10 deaths EACH in H Gundrak. |
| 04:50.44 | Kraps | ... |
| 04:51.12 | Jerub | I've got a feeling there was a serious deficiency of attention and sanity going on there. |
| 04:52.37 | Kraps | gundrak is one of the more difficult heroics actually |
| 04:52.58 | Kraps | those guys were new 80s? |
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| 04:58.39 | WobWork | Kraps: It's an -awesome- toy |
| 04:58.51 | Kraps | ^ |
| 04:58.54 | WobWork | Tauren on the tiger is so funny looking =) |
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| 04:59.13 | WobWork | gundrak is only really tough for the first snake boss |
| 04:59.17 | WobWork | well |
| 04:59.25 | WobWork | then the golem boss if people stand in crap |
| 04:59.37 | WobWork | and the mammoth boss if er... people... fail |
| 05:00.43 | Kraps | see? |
| 05:00.47 | Kraps | :p |
| 05:01.05 | WobWork | I'd say HoL is tougher |
| 05:01.11 | WobWork | and Occulus |
| 05:01.40 | Kraps | i remember the days of wiping horribly on the first and last Gun bosses |
| 05:01.48 | WobWork | but 10 deaths each is a little excessive |
| 05:02.18 | WobWork | if you don't have the dps, or have an unlucky wrap, the first boss is terribad |
| 05:02.50 | Jerub | Kraps: no, they're not, which is the weird thing |
| 05:04.05 | TC-Away | waaa's at inconsistant pricing |
| 05:05.06 | Kraps | this guy is a prolific troll, a mod already threatened to ban him, but hes still there http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Genooo#topics |
| 05:07.28 | Jerub | the very first time I did H gundrak I got the 'snakes' achievement. |
| 05:07.55 | WobWork | Jerub: did you do the "bring him to the top of the ramp" technique? |
| 05:08.13 | Jerub | WobWork: ranged dps and healer on the ramp, fighting him in the doorway. |
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| 05:08.35 | Jerub | and ffs, whenever I position myself there, the tank immediately runs into the room out of heal range and I have to run after him. |
| 05:08.43 | Shirik | huh. |
| 05:08.46 | Shirik | In WoW |
| 05:08.52 | Shirik | lightning always strikes the same place, every time |
| 05:08.54 | Jerub | I've gotta either start tanking pugs, or stop doing pugs. |
| 05:09.09 | Shirik | Jerub: The latter |
| 05:10.10 | Jerub | but but but. :( |
| 05:10.14 | Kraps | ive been a tank all my wow-life, i'm now only dps to none guildys |
| 05:10.17 | Jerub | i need to farm conquest badges. |
| 05:10.47 | Jerub | i guess i only really heal in H because i wanted to learn the instances, and i know them now. |
| 05:10.59 | Kraps | i'm sure healers have the same issues |
| 05:11.07 | Kraps | go dps |
| 05:11.53 | Dagmar | Wait just a minite |
| 05:12.03 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 05:12.04 | Dagmar | Is this Aion "Open Beta" only open to Fileplanet subscribers, period? |
| 05:12.12 | Dagmar | Am I interpreting this correctly? |
| 05:12.16 | Thunder_Child | more or les |
| 05:12.16 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 05:12.19 | Dagmar | WTf |
| 05:12.26 | Iriel | Dagmar: And pre-orderers |
| 05:12.34 | Dagmar | You'd THINK they could be bothered to mnetion that before I donwloaded a freaking NINE GIG FILE |
| 05:12.47 | Dagmar | Right... so, in short, fuck NCSoft. |
| 05:12.48 | Thunder_Child | they did |
| 05:12.52 | Hjalte | Dagmar: No europeans either it seems. |
| 05:12.52 | Dagmar | They did not |
| 05:12.54 | Dagmar | This is something I'd notice |
| 05:13.21 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar, "As added extra spice, FilePlanet will--in addition to distributing the client--be giving away a load of open beta keys starting on Tuesday, September 1, 2009. Get on the starting line if you do not have an eligible Aion account already! Eligible accounts include any previous closed beta participants and those who have preordered or prepurchased Aion." |
| 05:14.09 | Dagmar | You go to their site and it mentions nothing of the sort, just sais "Download the open beta client" and has a download button.. You click on that and the next page says basically the same thing but has links to the torrent |
| 05:14.13 | Corrodias | all right, what the hell is this Aion that people keep mentioning? |
| 05:14.20 | Corrodias | another generic mmorpg? :( |
| 05:14.21 | Thunder_Child | mmo Corrodias |
| 05:14.24 | Dagmar | A MASSIVE waste of disk space |
| 05:14.39 | Thunder_Child | dont blame them for you not reading |
| 05:14.47 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Bite my white ass man |
| 05:14.51 | Dagmar | I'm dead serious. |
| 05:14.54 | Shirik | Thunder_Child.... |
| 05:14.55 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 05:14.58 | Dagmar | Look at their website right now instead of acting like I can't read |
| 05:14.59 | Shirik | Aion is in open beta |
| 05:15.05 | Shirik | FilePlanet has nothing to do with it |
| 05:15.05 | Thunder_Child | thats what it says |
| 05:15.13 | Thunder_Child | http://na.aiononline.com/en/news/open-beta-client-now-available-for-download.html |
| 05:15.24 | Dagmar | http://na.aiononline.com/en/about/download/ <--nothing said there, and nothing said about it -> http://na.aiononline.com/en/ |
| 05:15.45 | Dagmar | It doesn't matter that you're pulling up some webpage from somewhere else not even directly linked to or hinted at from their top level page |
| 05:16.05 | Corrodias | if Aion somehow annihilates WoW with amazing gameplay, let me know, k? |
| 05:16.12 | Jerub | does aion have a policy of 10 hours of downtime a week? |
| 05:16.22 | Corrodias | otherwise i'm not really in the market for an mmorpg |
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| 05:16.26 | Dagmar | Corrodias: I doubt it will |
| 05:16.41 | Kraps | Jerub: i heard you want 10 cents back? |
| 05:16.44 | WobWork | Jerub: It could go for the niche market |
| 05:16.50 | Dagmar | I just like seeing new things, but I'm a little pissed that I downloaded nine freaking gigabytes of a client that I can't even use |
| 05:16.53 | WobWork | and offer 10 hours of uptime a week during WoW's downtime =) |
| 05:17.02 | Jerub | WobWork: i'd buy that. |
| 05:17.15 | WobWork | See? There's a market already =) |
| 05:17.30 | Kraps | i really want to try it |
| 05:17.33 | Corrodias | file sizes are so weird |
| 05:17.38 | Dagmar | This is not an "open beta" IMHO if it's only "open" to people who've paid money |
| 05:17.39 | Jerub | Kraps: i'd just like them to move AU downtime to a reasonable time of day. |
| 05:17.42 | Corrodias | WoW was, what, 4gb? FEAR 2 is 11gb. |
| 05:17.59 | Thunder_Child | was 4gb, now it's 10 |
| 05:18.00 | Thunder_Child | + |
| 05:18.11 | Corrodias | oh, k |
| 05:18.23 | Dagmar | Corrodias: Aye but at least tehy make it clear you are expected to cough up money or at least have a trial account for those |
| 05:18.32 | Kraps | Jerub: maybe its reasonable for blizz |
| 05:19.08 | Jerub | Kraps: I'm sure it is. |
| 05:19.54 | tem | Dagmar, that still counts as open imo |
| 05:19.58 | tem | because anyway can do it |
| 05:20.02 | tem | it's not invitation only |
| 05:20.22 | WobWork | yeah |
| 05:20.30 | WobWork | There's a term I'm searching for, but can't bring to mind |
| 05:20.42 | WobWork | maybe "Open subscription beta" |
| 05:20.45 | Thunder_Child | idoit? |
| 05:20.54 | Kraps | Jerub: the last maintenance affected the east coast until like 7 pm |
| 05:20.58 | WobWork | I dunno, Thunder_Child, my spelling is usually better than that |
| 05:21.06 | WobWork | Kraps: boohoo =P |
| 05:21.14 | WobWork | Kraps: welcome to Oceania =P |
| 05:21.24 | WobWork | EVERY WEEK =P |
| 05:21.25 | Thunder_Child | s/idiot/idiotic/ |
| 05:21.38 | Jerub | Kraps: for us it starts around 7-8pm and usually lasts all night. |
| 05:21.47 | Thunder_Child | oh..i did spell it wrong |
| 05:21.51 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 05:21.52 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 05:22.30 | Jerub | Kraps: so for me as someone who works fulltime, it means tuesday is a non-wow day |
| 05:22.55 | Kraps | i dont get it |
| 05:23.04 | Kraps | you're up all night? |
| 05:23.25 | Jerub | some nights, but after she falls asleep, i like to play wow for an hour or two. |
| 05:23.28 | Jerub | you know, to relax. |
| 05:24.06 | Kraps | relax with wow? WOW IZ SRS BZZNSS!!! |
| 05:27.05 | Kraps | night people |
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| 05:29.44 | AbsolutRayne | I have a silly question pertaining to DogTags. |
| 05:30.49 | AbsolutRayne | Is it possible with PitBull, that if I have a tag thats somewhat working, but with a forced work around, that it could be causing Errors to the point that my game would Disconnect? I know its silly but im having a real hard time trying to pinpoint whats causing my issue here. |
| 05:32.29 | MentalPower | there are very few reasons for a DC |
| 05:32.49 | MentalPower | the most common one is the client ignoring the server for too long 15+ secs |
| 05:33.14 | MentalPower | another is to send too many item unknown/invalid requests |
| 05:33.23 | AbsolutRayne | Ok well, case in point here. |
| 05:33.32 | WobWork | MentalPower: Or perhaps a friend query with 10M of 'a' =) |
| 05:33.53 | AbsolutRayne | Im using a DogTag thats supposed to read if my Taget and I are in combat. Now if its not PROPERLY reading it, but its still trying to pull Data anyway,would that lean towards it |
| 05:34.29 | MentalPower | that stuff is local |
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| 05:57.10 | Shirik | omfg |
| 05:57.15 | Jerub | no way. |
| 05:57.17 | Shirik | how could nobody pick up that google's image was from zero wing |
| 05:57.19 | Jerub | it's the BLACK KNIGHT |
| 05:57.29 | Jerub | wait waht? |
| 05:57.29 | Shirik | so obvious |
| 05:57.51 | Shirik | 2 days ago or so, google had this image up with a UFO "beaming up" one of the "o"s |
| 05:57.56 | Shirik | like the special images they use on holidays, etc. |
| 05:58.20 | Shirik | Google twittered a message in addition that said "All your 'o' are belong to us" |
| 05:58.31 | Shirik | but nobody made the connection that it was the anniversary of zero wing |
| 05:59.11 | Shirik | 20th anniversary to be precise |
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| 06:06.35 | bleeter | MentalPower: what I wanna know is how to force a logout when those moment occur of network fault where the game's not realised it's really DC'd. you know, where a forcequit seems the only thing that generates a response? |
| 06:06.55 | bleeter | ie, /quit hangs 'coz of some network timeout that an intermittent net fault might trip |
| 06:07.33 | bleeter | had my ISP reset my connection the other day, game took seemingly forever to notice it hadn't been connected for 5 seconds |
| 06:10.19 | Iriel | Well, depending on how your connection to your ISP is, it can be good to not notice a 15 second interruption |
| 06:10.35 | Iriel | Sometimes the virtual circuit between my DSL modem and the CO resets |
| 06:10.42 | Iriel | it's nice when i'm not DC'ed as a result |
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| 06:11.05 | Shirik | ^ |
| 06:11.08 | Iriel | sleeps now. |
| 06:11.13 | Shirik | It seems ssh and IRC recover fairly well |
| 06:11.14 | bleeter | I'm not DCd, but nothing works |
| 06:11.35 | bleeter | doesn't like forcequit |
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| 06:15.04 | Jerub | basically if nothing in the middle is configured to send a RST when the link is down, and you keep the same ip, then all your connections shoudl recover. |
| 06:15.59 | Shirik | well, you may not notice the link is down at all |
| 06:16.14 | Shirik | if there's no data flowing between the two nodes, how would you tell? |
| 06:17.24 | Dagmar | Aha! |
| 06:17.34 | Dagmar | Okay, so maybe not a gigantic wasted download |
| 06:17.46 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:17.53 | Dagmar | I found notes saying Fileplanet will start letting non-members have keys tomorrow |
| 06:18.03 | Dagmar | otherwise that would be _incredibly_ lame |
| 06:18.06 | Jerub | Shirik: tcp keepalives will interact with something that will send a rst or no route to host or whatever and terminate the connection. |
| 06:18.24 | Shirik | that would be the "data flow" I was referring to |
| 06:18.33 | Dagmar | Before when there's been Fileplanet-member-only "open" betas they've been up-front about letting you know that long before you can waste your time downloading |
| 06:18.50 | Shirik | however, not everything uses keepalive Jerub |
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| 06:19.00 | Shirik | in fact, I think it's rare |
| 06:19.41 | Dagmar | Most of the time it's not necessaey |
| 06:19.52 | Dagmar | er necessary |
| 06:20.03 | Shirik | exactly |
| 06:20.20 | Dagmar | Any connection that can remain silent for extended periods of time is usually "disposable" with the exception of things like ssh sessions, which is part of the reason there's an option in there to turn that on for those |
| 06:21.16 | Dagmar | Without a tear-down time, it means that if both ends of a conneciton go away without saying anything, any poor NAT/DNAT gateway is just stuck with a session it can't ever "safely" throw away the data on |
| 06:21.29 | Dagmar | ...and quickly leads to an easy DoS |
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| 07:27.28 | Adys | If I have an addon that needs to consume more memory over time but can eventually be reset to a low amount |
| 07:27.48 | Adys | what is an acceptable amount to have as a margin before I tell the user "Reset your shit" ? |
| 07:28.36 | Elkano | you're doing it wrong |
| 07:29.16 | Adys | Why? |
| 07:30.40 | Elkano | well, why does it consume more memory over time? maybe you should fix that instead ^^ |
| 07:31.01 | Adys | I know what I'm doing |
| 07:31.45 | Adys | now I wouldnt mind a more helpful answer |
| 07:32.13 | Elkano | well, there is no objective generic answer to that question |
| 07:32.31 | Adys | Blank it consumes 150kb |
| 07:32.52 | Adys | depending on activity it can consume up to 3mb after a month |
| 07:33.03 | Adys | but that's gonna increase a lot more |
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| 07:34.07 | Elkano | what's the addon? |
| 07:34.29 | Elkano | also, if you say 'after a month' this sounds like rather static memory |
| 07:35.03 | Adys | It's not a leak, it gathers data and stores it |
| 07:35.07 | Elkano | so instead going by the datasize itself, you could shedule a cleanup every few weeks |
| 07:35.16 | Adys | that I dont want :) |
| 07:35.34 | Adys | the user can reset the addon and either upload it or store it elsewhere |
| 07:35.35 | Elkano | I don't mean forced but as a suggestion |
| 07:51.00 | Adys | Huh |
| 07:51.05 | Adys | rolling ignites still exist? |
| 07:51.13 | Adys | I thought they were reoved ages ago |
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| 07:53.13 | jnwhiteh | So on twitter, if you @reply someone.. do they see it in their timeline if they aren't following you? |
| 08:02.20 | Elkano | @jnwhiteh no idea |
| 08:02.30 | jnwhiteh | that should not have made me laugh |
| 08:03.13 | Elkano | it did? |
| 08:06.33 | jnwhiteh | yes =) |
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| 08:14.03 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: I believe so. you could always set up a fake twitter account and find out for certain ;) |
| 08:15.52 | Kalroth | from jnwhiteh to @cladhaire: r u ther?? |
| 08:16.12 | jnwhiteh | Margaret: @God are there there? It's me! |
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| 08:20.28 | Adys | your biggest fan |
| 08:20.29 | Fisker | #wowuidev stfu |
| 08:22.05 | Torhal | Fisker: Is it true, that you have a tiny hdd? |
| 08:22.33 | Adys | dedicated to cide |
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| 08:22.40 | Adys | RELIGION FIGHT |
| 08:22.40 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/#4000692 |
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| 08:23.12 | haste | ~wowalert |
| 08:23.13 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 08:23.44 | Torhal | Adys: The native Linux version of Heroes of Newerth runs pretty damn smooth. |
| 08:23.55 | haste | it does |
| 08:24.02 | Adys | yeah Torhal |
| 08:24.11 | haste | it even implements the window behaviour correctly |
| 08:24.21 | Adys | I had both installed and to my surprise I was using the native one |
| 08:24.22 | haste | wine is the only other application that does it |
| 08:24.45 | haste | oh, and penumbra does a decent job |
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| 08:30.51 | Elkano | Torhal, you're playing HoN? |
| 08:41.00 | Torhal | Elkano: Got a beta key today, toyed with it briefly before going back to coding |
| 08:41.32 | Elkano | well, add me to your friends list if you want ^^ same nick :) |
| 08:41.41 | Elkano | you're in with the same nick, too? |
| 08:41.44 | Torhal | Ah, good deal. Yup. |
| 08:42.30 | Torhal | Meh. Should have gone to bed two hours ago. Yay. |
| 08:42.38 | Torhal | G'night. |
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| 09:16.39 | jnwhiteh | Torhal|Sleep: <-- jnwhiteh in HoN |
| 09:16.49 | jnwhiteh | bbl |
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| 09:19.51 | harl | hi all |
| 09:25.27 | Fisker | jnwhitehmen |
| 09:25.33 | Fisker | i've seen a hdd |
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| 09:59.45 | Jerub | :( shutdown |
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| 10:03.36 | Jerub | %$!#%^$!^&# shutdown |
| 10:04.35 | olafski | shutdown what |
| 10:04.38 | olafski | your realm? |
| 10:05.32 | Jerub | yeah, server shutdown. |
| 10:05.36 | Jerub | i think most US realms. |
| 10:05.58 | Jerub | goes to plot destruction |
| 10:07.31 | Wobin | wow, windows7 does not deal with hibernation and USB devices very well |
| 10:07.41 | Wobin | is it shutdown or reboot? |
| 10:07.54 | Dagmar | USB devices don't handle it very well |
| 10:08.02 | Dagmar | The host "goes away" |
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| 10:12.04 | Wobin | Can't I yell "OI, It's BACK!" |
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| 11:00.38 | Wobin | rrr |
| 11:00.43 | Wobin | is trying to shorten a watch band |
| 11:00.50 | Wobin | but the pins are driving me batty |
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| 11:20.35 | Wobin | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-you-are-jealous-of-tails.jpg |
| 11:22.36 | Wobin | "Friday night, we actually went to this huge arcade sort of thing called Gameworks, where we wittled away some time playing Taiko Drum Master. We wanted to play more, but we were expected somewhere els" |
| 11:22.41 | Wobin | TAIKO DRUM MASTER? |
| 11:22.51 | Wobin | Where can I get some of THAT? |
| 11:22.55 | Wobin | that'd be so much fun =) |
| 11:43.34 | industrial | Wobin: =) |
| 11:43.47 | industrial | I'm still playing stepmania when I have some time to kill her and there |
| 11:43.57 | industrial | people tell me I'm sickly good at it -_- |
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| 11:44.38 | industrial | I did an SSS score on the pokemon song for fun http://www.youtube.com/user/1ndustrial#play/all/uploads-all/2/tExf6CE3pJ0 |
| 11:45.18 | Wobin | industrial: but TAIKI DRUM MASTER |
| 11:45.22 | Wobin | er TAIKO |
| 11:45.36 | Wobin | have you -seen- taiko drummers? |
| 11:45.46 | Wobin | it has to be one of the most awesome instruments to play in a group |
| 11:46.49 | Wobin | of course, I'm envisualising some actual physical drum |
| 11:46.55 | Wobin | where you have to stand and hit it |
| 11:47.04 | Wobin | but it's probably some terrible wii derivative |
| 11:47.12 | Wobin | where you wave your arms around weakly |
| 11:47.13 | Wobin | =( |
| 11:49.33 | Wobin | ps |
| 11:49.42 | Wobin | this is a really really good guitar channel: http://www.youtube.com/candyrat |
| 11:50.27 | Wobin | (for fingerstyle guitaring) |
| 11:50.42 | Wobin | Especially Andy McKee |
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| 12:10.11 | Bollinger | is there an nice programmer friendly quest db/xml out there, my google kung fu is failing |
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| 12:24.09 | industrial | Bollinger: what for? what are you making? etc |
| 12:24.24 | industrial | Wobin: ooh thanks |
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| 12:31.54 | Bollinger | industrial, well I am thinking about yet another in game quest guide. But I need a complete quest list available off line so I can do some fancy pre processing to optimize the list.. All done before I suppose. |
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| 12:44.36 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/sinfest/3264/20090906.gif |
| 12:45.33 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/ctrlaltdel/1337/20090907.jpg |
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| 12:59.27 | pb_ee1 | lol @ both links |
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| 13:14.40 | industrial | Bollinger: There's a number of people that have crawled wowhead but I don't think the script's and the data is available publicly |
| 13:14.57 | industrial | Bollinger: also if you are going to crawl I think it'd be nice to ask first :> |
| 13:16.12 | Bollinger | industrial, I didn't say I'd be crawling ;-) Just hoped there is a better solution. |
| 13:18.38 | industrial | Bollinger: do you know about tourguide? |
| 13:18.54 | industrial | github.com/tekkub/tourguide |
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| 13:20.31 | Bollinger | thanks I do now |
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| 13:22.59 | industrial | tourguide includes the waypoints for Joana's guide and Brian's guides i think |
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| 13:24.39 | Bruners | why do people need guides to do something that explains itself |
| 13:25.43 | olafski | not everyone cares to read the quests |
| 13:26.55 | industrial | tomtom locations on the map for wherever you have to go |
| 13:26.58 | jnwhiteh | they should, the first time at least :P |
| 13:27.02 | industrial | 1-80 just follow the arrow and whack stuff |
| 13:27.09 | jnwhiteh | the new quest POI system that's coming out will be really nice |
| 13:27.15 | industrial | its still the fastest way to level |
| 13:27.17 | jnwhiteh | most people won't really need guides anymore. |
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| 13:28.32 | olafski | I may be repeating myself, but not everybody cares about lore either.. if all you want to do is raid with your friends it might be nice that there are alternatives to reading the quests (even once) |
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| 13:29.32 | industrial | I just want xp when leveling |
| 13:29.43 | Bruners | i rarely read the quest, just what i have to kill or what dude i have to talk to |
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| 13:29.56 | jnwhiteh | I read them when I do them for teh first time, because it matters to me and doesn't take all that much time. |
| 13:30.09 | Lopeppeppy | I just like to read quest text. :) |
| 13:30.21 | olafski | I used to read quest texts in vanilla :P |
| 13:30.41 | olafski | quit a few weeks after naxx was released, restarted last november and since then I don't think I've read more than 10 quests |
| 13:31.16 | Bruners | in vanilla reading some of the quests didnt even give you a clue :P |
| 13:31.20 | industrial | *shameless self promotion* check out idQUestAutomation too :p |
| 13:31.21 | olafski | indeed |
| 13:31.31 | jnwhiteh | Quest POIs will tell you almost everything you need to know |
| 13:31.38 | olafski | why does it have 'id' in the name industrial? |
| 13:31.42 | olafski | just wondering :) |
| 13:31.50 | olafski | jnwhiteh: is that the "questhelper" type thing blizzard announced? |
| 13:31.50 | industrial | because my nickname is industrial |
| 13:31.53 | industrial | :p |
| 13:31.55 | olafski | industrial: ok :) |
| 13:32.00 | Bruners | InDustrial |
| 13:32.10 | jnwhiteh | olafski: yes |
| 13:32.11 | olafski | aren't there a ton of addons out there that do that already though? no offense of course |
| 13:32.21 | olafski | jnwhiteh: ah that helps I bet :) lot less questions in /1 that way |
| 13:32.46 | industrial | do what? auto accept/complete quests? nope. THeres some for the dailies and I think cosmos had/has onef |
| 13:32.49 | industrial | -f |
| 13:33.08 | zenzelezz | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:33.14 | olafski | hmm |
| 13:33.19 | olafski | it seems so simple I assumed it existed |
| 13:33.20 | Bruners | should some that are included in bigger quest addons |
| 13:33.31 | Bruners | *be some |
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| 13:33.51 | olafski | maybe I should install this addon of yours industrial :) |
| 13:34.12 | industrial | maybe you should. |
| 13:34.21 | industrial | (I can't live without it anymore :p) |
| 13:34.24 | olafski | got 5 more chars to get to 80 |
| 13:35.27 | Elkano | which one? |
| 13:35.59 | olafski | idQuestAutomation |
| 13:36.43 | Elkano | don't know it |
| 13:37.20 | olafski | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7091-idQuestAutomation.html ;) |
| 13:37.37 | Bruners | git://github.com/Industrial/idQuestAutomation.git |
| 13:37.43 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 13:39.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzelezz. |
| 13:40.59 | olafski | industrial: I think your addon would complement carbonite quite well.. or any of the tourguide addons which apparently are good too =) |
| 13:41.10 | olafski | come to think of it, it seems like a logical feature for carbonite but I don't think it has it |
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| 13:57.00 | industrial | olafski: to me it seems logical that the moment my addon exists instead of everyone making their own because they think mine sucks instead they help me make mine better |
| 13:57.34 | industrial | i never get feedback :( |
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| 13:58.27 | industrial | lots of small tools that do their job right is better then one thing for all i think |
| 13:58.32 | industrial | amirite cncfanatics Ackis ? |
| 13:58.44 | cncfanatics | no |
| 13:58.47 | cncfanatics | totaly wrong |
| 13:58.48 | industrial | u suk |
| 13:59.03 | cncfanatics | u asked for it :p |
| 13:59.17 | industrial | I'm kidding |
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| 13:59.34 | cncfanatics | so am I :D |
| 14:00.03 | industrial | Fisker never makes jokes. |
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| 14:13.54 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
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| 14:19.13 | zenzelezz | http://punditkitchen.com/2009/09/07/political-pictures-military-intelligence/ |
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| 15:30.33 | Lunessa | Station |
| 15:37.16 | mikma | fuck statio |
| 15:37.21 | mikma | try GAS |
| 15:37.27 | mikma | BROOOM BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM |
| 15:37.33 | mikma | mr silentkillergasman |
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| 15:40.46 | Lunessa | mikma: lay off the caffeine. It's not helping. |
| 15:42.34 | Ackis | how to you create a branch with git? |
| 15:43.03 | durcyn | `man git-branch` |
| 15:43.08 | jnwhiteh | git branch <branch-name> |
| 15:43.12 | jnwhiteh | git checkout <branch-name> |
| 15:43.14 | jnwhiteh | is the long way to do it :P |
| 15:44.04 | mikma | lunessa: station |
| 15:44.05 | Ackis | durcyn: windows machine my friend :( |
| 15:44.19 | Lunessa | mikma: better. |
| 15:44.22 | mikma | GAS |
| 15:44.23 | mikma | BROOOM BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM |
| 15:44.38 | nevcairiel | Ackis, git help branch |
| 15:44.39 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:44.57 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:45.16 | nevcairiel | note that creating a branch doesnt automatically switch to it |
| 15:46.04 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: you can automatically do that with some switch, i think |
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| 15:46.28 | nevcairiel | it switches if you create the branch with git checkout -b <newbranch> |
| 15:48.38 | jnwhiteh | yeah thats it. |
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| 16:02.43 | sag_ich_nicht | grrr |
| 16:02.46 | sag_ich_nicht | bad identd |
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| 16:03.32 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I just typed git branch help... and I made a new branch :( |
| 16:03.40 | nevcairiel | git help branch |
| 16:03.40 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 16:04.05 | Ackis | none of the git help seems to work on the command line for me right now |
| 16:04.18 | nevcairiel | on windows its supposed to open a browser window to the html help |
| 16:04.34 | Ackis | ahh ok no wonder |
| 16:04.38 | nevcairiel | anyway just do "git checkout -b <newbranch>" |
| 16:06.29 | Fisker | slaps sag_ich_nicht around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:06.31 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:06.34 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:07.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker |
| 16:08.00 | sag_ich_nicht | why so angry |
| 16:08.18 | sag_ich_nicht | also leave cogwheel alone, he doesn't even have time to post patched versions of his addons that I provide him with |
| 16:08.18 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 16:08.27 | nevcairiel | his new hdd isnt available in silly DK land :P |
| 16:08.47 | sag_ich_nicht | so? order from the US, it's cheaper anyway |
| 16:09.05 | sag_ich_nicht | since the USD sucks so much it's cheaper to order hardware from the US and have it shipped to europe than buying it locally |
| 16:09.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (that includes shipping) |
| 16:09.38 | nevcairiel | its Fisker, he isnt smart :D |
| 16:09.46 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:09.47 | nevcairiel | he just rages |
| 16:09.51 | Shirik | I haven't seen you in a while |
| 16:10.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: that might be because I was banned from here until recently. |
| 16:10.20 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:10.24 | Shirik | that's a pretty good reason |
| 16:10.59 | Bruners | sag_ich_nicht: iirc you should still be banned? |
| 16:11.22 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ask Cairenn|afk |
| 16:13.31 | ckknight | hey all, I added a "Companions" category on wowace/wow.curseforge |
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| 16:15.55 | Lunessa | ... http://www.amazingsuperpowers.com/2009/09/condoms/ |
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| 16:19.45 | jaxdahl | whee, submitted my first addon to wowi |
| 16:22.14 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 16:22.45 | Fisker | also ordering hardware from the US costs money btw |
| 16:25.38 | cog|work | sag_ich_nicht: you could take over my addon ;) |
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| 16:32.50 | dardack | yawn |
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| 16:34.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:25] <cog|work> sag_ich_nicht: you could take over my addon ;) <--I just fixed an obvious compare error |
| 16:34.35 | sag_ich_nicht | I am in now way able to continue developing it :P |
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| 16:42.37 | Lunessa | needs caffeine and a cheeseburger. |
| 16:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | needs caffeine, allergy meds, and another vacation. |
| 16:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | Why can NO ONE do any of their work over the summer? Why? |
| 16:43.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:13] <@ckknight> hey all, I added a "Companions" category on wowace/wow.curseforge <--I'd like it better if you added some way to look at addon diffs over the web again like we could with fisheye back at wowace :( |
| 16:43.55 | sag_ich_nicht | no more speed debugging :( |
| 16:44.03 | ckknight | yea, that's on the books |
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| 16:44.06 | ckknight | there's time management issues. |
| 16:44.14 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: what's up? |
| 16:44.50 | Lopeppeppy | I work at a school. Students came back this week. **Suddenly** every department needs major changes to their web pages, ASAP, and they're getting pissy that my schedule is backed up. |
| 16:44.57 | Cide | hi |
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| 16:48.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, this Lunessa, this: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/funny-pictures-cat-is-in-restraints.jpg |
| 16:49.15 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: /comfort |
| 16:49.35 | Lopeppeppy | You're in the boat with me, I'm sure, Lunessa. |
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| 16:50.52 | alestane | I started my latest round of classes today after ten days of vacation. Getting up this morning was something of a shock to my system. |
| 16:51.08 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Yes, except last Monday we forced a reset on 2000+ faculty/staff accounts to implement tougher password rules. I'm still dealing with the fallout. |
| 16:51.14 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie kept me up 2/3 of the night the last 3 nights. Morning is a shock to everyone... |
| 16:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, ugly Lunessa. *huggles* |
| 16:52.09 | alestane | My campus has just rolled out new machines with Office 2007...except the one I usually use, which is a new machine with Office 2003, go figure. |
| 16:53.39 | Lopeppeppy | Half of my office has Office 2008, except for a few of us PC users who still have 2003, and I can't teach the Mac people to save downward... |
| 16:56.19 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: grab the free docx addon from MS do you don't have to worry about it |
| 16:56.36 | NightHawkTheSane | tell everyone to ditch office and use google docs. ;) |
| 16:58.14 | Lunessa | No thanks. |
| 16:59.14 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I did, but sometimes the more fancy spreadsheets they do convert to mangled gibberish. |
| 16:59.24 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 16:59.28 | sag_ich_nicht | >spreadsheets |
| 16:59.38 | Antiarc | So |
| 16:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | Fancy fancy. |
| 16:59.43 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone not doing spreadsheets in 2k7 when offered the chance to should be punched. |
| 16:59.47 | Antiarc | This chestpiece I got last night is technically best in slow |
| 16:59.49 | Antiarc | slot* |
| 16:59.57 | Antiarc | But I would argue that it is more likely breast in slot |
| 16:59.59 | Antiarc | http://i31.tinypic.com/2rmpjtj.jpg |
| 17:00.11 | sag_ich_nicht | lol. |
| 17:00.32 | alestane | That's, um... |
| 17:00.35 | alestane | "tasty?" |
| 17:00.42 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 17:00.54 | sag_ich_nicht | I am surprised your DK wasn't forced into a namechange yet Antiarc |
| 17:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | Give it time, sag_ich_nicht. |
| 17:01.08 | Antiarc | I haven't played it much at all :P |
| 17:01.11 | Antiarc | It's a gnome |
| 17:01.15 | Antiarc | I rolled it for the cheap pun |
| 17:01.18 | sag_ich_nicht | that's even more fun |
| 17:01.20 | sag_ich_nicht | is it female? |
| 17:01.22 | Antiarc | yes |
| 17:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
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| 17:04.35 | Lunessa | Antiarc: That image is proof that wow's target demographic is largely male, and largely horny. |
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| 17:04.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: did we really need proof of that? |
| 17:05.05 | Antiarc | Lunessa: Heh, I think * elves are proof of that |
| 17:05.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Lunessa: what is it with you forgetting about female bi & homosexuals |
| 17:05.18 | Lunessa | No. But empirical evidence is always nice. |
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| 17:05.31 | sag_ich_nicht | I don't know why people assume girls are any less corrupted |
| 17:05.32 | Lunessa | sag_ich_nicht: I didn't forget them. |
| 17:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | if anything, they are more so. |
| 17:05.44 | NightHawkTheSane | not less corrupted, but less common. ;) |
| 17:05.49 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 17:05.51 | Lunessa | I /never/ forget them. |
| 17:05.57 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly. |
| 17:05.57 | jnwhiteh | ckknight: do you have notes on the weird plural string formatting stuff, or know where I might find it? |
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| 17:06.14 | ckknight | which weird plural string formatting stuff, jnwhiteh? |
| 17:06.28 | jnwhiteh | there's something liek 4:monkey:monkeys |
| 17:06.37 | jnwhiteh | I know I've seen it recently, just don't remember where. |
| 17:06.56 | ckknight | ah |
| 17:06.57 | ckknight | yes. |
| 17:07.05 | ckknight | curseforge's pluralization system uses that |
| 17:07.16 | jnwhiteh | so it's not something in WoW? |
| 17:07.20 | ckknight | I took inspiration from ngettext |
| 17:07.24 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 17:07.27 | ckknight | WoW does have something like that |
| 17:07.30 | ckknight | but it's kinda funky |
| 17:07.42 | ckknight | it's like 12 |4monkey:monkeys; |
| 17:07.44 | ckknight | or something. |
| 17:07.45 | jnwhiteh | any idea where it's used so I can look at it? (or any notes on it) |
| 17:07.53 | ckknight | I believe there's a page on wowwiki |
| 17:07.57 | jnwhiteh | yeah thats it |
| 17:08.03 | jnwhiteh | hrm, I'll see if I can find it, thanks. |
| 17:08.19 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_escape_sequences |
| 17:08.31 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_escape_sequences |
| 17:08.32 | ckknight | bah |
| 17:08.35 | ckknight | beat me |
| 17:08.41 | ckknight | curse your black heart, jnwhiteh |
| 17:08.48 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:09.00 | Lunessa | ckknight: More 151 rum, during working hours. |
| 17:09.11 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: yea, but |1 is deprecated |
| 17:09.13 | ckknight | use |4 instead |
| 17:09.15 | ckknight | for the Ruskies |
| 17:09.16 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 17:10.07 | ckknight | on CurseForge, I made the localization system work as L("%(num)d PLURAL{%(num)d;monkey;monkeys}", num=5) |
| 17:10.10 | ckknight | works pretty well |
| 17:10.18 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 17:10.21 | ckknight | there's 16 different plural forms |
| 17:10.25 | jnwhiteh | i love localization |
| 17:10.37 | jnwhiteh | It's really neat :P |
| 17:10.38 | ckknight | http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Localization_and_Plurals |
| 17:10.55 | ckknight | so in the DB, the language has a plural form id attached |
| 17:11.11 | ckknight | and from that, it'll run a certain bit of code to figure out pluralization from the localized text provided |
| 17:11.25 | ckknight | Arabic has 6 types of plurals |
| 17:11.27 | ckknight | crazy. |
| 17:14.25 | Legorol | g'morning |
| 17:15.07 | Legorol | anyone here happens to know the name of any large starcraft related IRC channels? |
| 17:15.21 | NightHawkTheSane | compiles php, again... >< |
| 17:20.49 | Lopeppeppy | There's no #starcraft? |
| 17:21.41 | NightHawkTheSane | and by "compile php" i mean.. recompile a bunch of stuff in 64bit and THEN compile php. >< |
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| 17:23.29 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, there might be, just not on freenode |
| 17:23.53 | Cloudwolf | lol maintenance darn you regulalry scheduled maintenance! |
| 17:24.05 | Cloudwolf | you allways sneak up on me! even though your regularly scheduled |
| 17:24.39 | ckknight | Legorol: I have #sc2mapster |
| 17:24.48 | ckknight | Legorol: but that's just maps. |
| 17:26.31 | Legorol | thanks ck, doesn't help unfortunately, i'll try some other networks |
| 17:27.17 | Lopeppeppy | Legorol, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=starcraft+IRC ? |
| 17:34.34 | Lunessa | So in my quest for the "Exalted" achievement, it looks like I will need to do a lot of AV and AB battlegrounds for rep. Turns out Spirit Walk from Feral Spirt (Enh 51 point talent for shaman) shares a cooldown with my PvP trinket. Guess I don't need to buy a new one. |
| 17:34.56 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
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| 17:37.54 | augustl | so, what are good macros to spam in order to win AV? >< |
| 17:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | "Heal me, noob!" |
| 17:39.05 | NightHawkTheSane | try playing the game. i hear it helps. |
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| 17:39.23 | Lopeppeppy | You can't macro AV. You can't control it. You just have to hope the mob wins. |
| 17:39.52 | Cloudwolf | alliance normaly wins av on my battlegroup thingy heh |
| 17:40.30 | Lopeppeppy | When I was playing it regularly, we ran about 50/50. Not sure what it would be right now. |
| 17:40.39 | Shirik | o.o Lopeppeppy |
| 17:40.40 | Shirik | so forceful |
| 17:40.45 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy lmgtfy'ed |
| 17:40.58 | Lopeppeppy | Guilty as charged. |
| 17:41.20 | Cloudwolf | O.o... wtf? a rogue at 10kdps.... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whut?...... |
| 17:41.39 | dardack | what fight? |
| 17:41.40 | Cloudwolf | time to find out this guys spec and gear |
| 17:42.00 | Lopeppeppy | And what other slackers he's raiding with. |
| 17:42.05 | Cloudwolf | heroic anub'arak |
| 17:42.19 | Cloudwolf | the lowest dps recorded on the chart was 5830 |
| 17:42.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that could be a healer, who knows. They could just be uber. Or on a private server? |
| 17:42.42 | Cloudwolf | hmmm hes combat |
| 17:42.51 | dardack | yea i can see that |
| 17:43.01 | Lopeppeppy | I always did well as combat rogue in pve |
| 17:43.01 | dardack | i've seen rogues on XT 10 man hit 9k |
| 17:43.06 | Cloudwolf | rakez, deaths demise title paragon level 80 orc rogue on lightnin'gs blade |
| 17:43.22 | Cloudwolf | combat spec for that battle |
| 17:44.20 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: thanks for the help, saved me some typing \o/ |
| 17:44.41 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 17:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | Lazy monkey. |
| 17:44.48 | augustl | 12 defeats in a row. And counting, I presume. |
| 17:44.58 | augustl | people not defending towers properly is a pita |
| 17:45.05 | Cloudwolf | any one know what hte expertese cap is? |
| 17:45.20 | augustl | and because of all the lowbies XP farming, tanking the end "boss" is pretty moot too |
| 17:46.26 | mikma | lal |
| 17:46.31 | mikma | you have used up your prepaid |
| 17:46.33 | mikma | took them 3 days |
| 17:51.41 | industrial | Cloudwolf: wowwiki, duh :p |
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| 17:56.33 | Cloudwolf | feh wowwiki needs to know less stuff lol |
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| 18:05.08 | NightHawkTheSane | s/less/more/ |
| 18:07.18 | tem | Blizzard needs to buy wow.com from wowinsider |
| 18:07.23 | tem | it's dumb for them to have the url |
| 18:07.34 | tem | also, I hate typing worldofwarcraft.com |
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| 18:09.19 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | tem: someone should just nuke wowinsider from orbit |
| 18:11.16 | alestane | tem: Your browser doesn't fill it in once you've typed the first three characters or so? |
| 18:11.29 | tem | not usually |
| 18:11.39 | tem | I don't go to worldofwarcraft.com frequently enough |
| 18:12.09 | tem | speaking of worldofwarcraft.com, the servers are 15 minutes late coming up |
| 18:12.20 | tem | time to go post angrily on the general forum |
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| 18:12.53 | tem | something about how we pay to play and any delay is unacceptable |
| 18:12.58 | Lunessa | Classic Rock covers by modern bands on AOL Radio makes the day interesting. |
| 18:13.08 | tem | perhaps include a dick cheyney grumble |
| 18:14.06 | Lunessa | go go gadget UPS - power went out, and all my machines are A-OK |
| 18:14.39 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
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| 18:15.33 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:16.16 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_090809_205239.jpg |
| 18:16.22 | mikma | I BELIEEEEVE I CAN FLYYYYYYYYY |
| 18:16.29 | mikma | I BELIEEEVE I CAN TOUCH THE SKYYYYYY |
| 18:16.37 | Shirik | stabs mikma |
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| 18:16.56 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_090809_205247.jpg |
| 18:17.00 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, put down the crack pipe. |
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| 18:17.07 | mikma | life is my crack |
| 18:17.27 | Lopeppeppy | I like that status message... you have the ability to trade BOP isnide the party/raid for up to 2 hours. :) |
| 18:17.59 | Cloudwolf | lol mikma they are stars! |
| 18:18.02 | Cloudwolf | green and blue stars! |
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| 18:23.33 | Lunessa | Camera zoom. |
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| 18:24.43 | Cloudwolf | lalala apparntly ic an't log into my character.... |
| 18:24.48 | Cloudwolf | it just stuck at af ull bar D: |
| 18:24.59 | Cloudwolf | nvm jsut took forever |
| 18:25.02 | nevcairiel | your space bar control is slightly off |
| 18:25.04 | nevcairiel | fyi |
| 18:25.05 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:25.30 | mikma | smartaaaaasss |
| 18:26.12 | durcyn | let's break his thumbs to fix it. |
| 18:26.24 | nevcairiel | hey, i need those for my space bar! |
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| 18:35.33 | alestane | For those who did not yet see, and might care: |
| 18:35.38 | Shirik | I id |
| 18:35.40 | Shirik | did |
| 18:35.42 | Shirik | and I did not care |
| 18:35.52 | alestane | Ronia Quinn Holkins, 9/7/09- |
| 18:36.26 | alestane | I love Jerry's birth announcements. |
| 18:36.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:36.32 | Lopeppeppy | This means... what exactly? |
| 18:36.55 | alestane | One of the Penny Arcade guys' wife brought their second child into the world yesterday. |
| 18:37.02 | Shirik | yay :) |
| 18:37.52 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. See, I know PA, but I don't know crap about the authors. Makes more sense when it's in context. |
| 18:38.16 | alestane | http://www.penny-arcade.com/2009/9/7/#girl-youre-so-groovy |
| 18:38.38 | industrial | yay a blog, isn't PA a comic? |
| 18:38.57 | foxlit | l2pa |
| 18:39.01 | industrial | no ty |
| 18:39.21 | alestane | 'Between contractions she has managed to fish out the yoga bullshit from her bag, looks at it, decides against it. She reaches up to the visor, where the disc holder is strapped, and produces Doolittle. It is in immediately, and Debaser scours away the surreal fog which has thus far clung to the proceedings. "Fuck yoga," she says, when her body allows her to speak. She looks out the window, shaking her head. "Goddamned yoga."' |
| 18:39.57 | alestane | industrial: It has always been some of both. |
| 18:40.38 | industrial | alestane: what? I don't want to interpret that text :| |
| 18:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | They mess up their perfectly good comic by insisting you know their private lives too. |
| 18:41.01 | alestane | "industrial: yay a blog, isn't PA a comic?" |
| 18:41.09 | durcyn | you don't have to read it if you don't like it, ffs |
| 18:42.11 | mikma | Kurssiin sisältyy sekä teoria- että käytännön opetusta: |
| 18:42.11 | mikma | Perusopinnot |
| 18:42.15 | mikma | whops :I |
| 18:42.31 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/09/argentinian_geeks_prank_local.php |
| 18:42.39 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Actually, for a long time Tycho's posts often indicated his hesitance in believing that people would actually care about his personal life, and it still intrudes only occasionally. He wrote such fantastic pieces on the births of both his children that I am more than willing to forgive him for it. |
| 18:42.54 | Lopeppeppy | Just as you say dear, I like my comics quite stand-alone. |
| 18:44.10 | industrial | ^ |
| 18:44.15 | industrial | and inline-rss at that |
| 18:44.39 | industrial | but yeah 'making a living' and all >_> |
| 18:44.42 | industrial | is harsh, sorry. |
| 18:44.56 | Lunessa | alestane: His blog posts make me envious of his skill with language. |
| 18:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | He does have a way with a good surreal description line. |
| 18:49.49 | alestane | From the birth of his son (on the launch date of the XBox 360): "I very nearly buckled. Not struck dumb, but struck, as a string might be struck, into sound: It's me, I said. I'm the one who sang to you." |
| 18:58.55 | Cide | hmm |
| 18:59.09 | Cide | I have a huge text file with no newlines in it |
| 18:59.46 | Cide | (how) can I grep only around the specific text string I want to see? |
| 18:59.58 | Cide | i.e. cat file | grep --MAGIC_OPTIONS yadda |
| 19:00.26 | industrial | I hate the new windows 7 explorer, can I turn all the whizzy big icony stuff off? |
| 19:00.37 | industrial | like the bar on the left with my computer and stuff in it |
| 19:00.46 | industrial | and the statusbar being so big with an icon in it |
| 19:01.24 | durcyn | Cide: fold |
| 19:01.42 | Cide | fold? |
| 19:01.48 | Ackis | lol first case of the swine flu reported from PAX |
| 19:01.51 | Cide | I found -o but now I need to figure out how to do regexes |
| 19:02.00 | durcyn | Cide: cat foo | fold | grep |
| 19:02.27 | durcyn | it defaults to 80 columns iirc |
| 19:02.36 | tem | industrial, you can make the status bar use small icons |
| 19:02.51 | tem | and the wizbang stuff in explorer on the left is fucking awesome. you shut your whore mouth |
| 19:02.57 | Cide | durcyn: awesome, thanks |
| 19:03.08 | industrial | no its not, if I have a locaton i often visit I make sure I can get there fast |
| 19:03.15 | industrial | I dont need a bar all the time |
| 19:04.44 | industrial | I found 'always show menus' in folder options and under view you can enable the 'old' statusbar |
| 19:06.18 | industrial | I do like the 'use checkboxes to select items' option though |
| 19:07.09 | industrial | tem: but yeah, no way to turn them off? |
| 19:07.31 | tem | no |
| 19:07.35 | industrial | :( |
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| 19:09.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I rather liked the bar on the left. A bit more obnoxious than Finder's similar feature, but still handy. |
| 19:10.18 | industrial | I never use libraries and favorites |
| 19:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, a better ability to customize what shows up there would be nice, but *shrug* |
| 19:14.14 | alestane | Is it live yet? |
| 19:14.14 | industrial | I do love how finder has tree arrows on every folder |
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| 19:18.49 | durcyn | finder still needs better keyboard shortcuts |
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| 19:22.35 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone run WoW on Windows XP using a usb wireless network link? Just being curious if there's significant slowdown versus wired, etc. |
| 19:23.24 | alestane | I do on my laptop, but rarely use that machine wired, so can't give much of a comparison. |
| 19:24.17 | durcyn | are USB WLAN adapters still a Bad Idea(tm)? |
| 19:25.54 | Lunessa | Meh. They're fast enough for most needs. |
| 19:26.25 | nevcairiel | shouldnt USB 2.0 be fast enough for any WLAN you can have? |
| 19:27.55 | Dagmar | Yes |
| 19:27.55 | nevcairiel | I generally dislike WLAN for playing, have had too many people complain about lost connections, etc |
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| 19:28.28 | Dagmar | Bump the base channel to 1 or 11 and/or destroy all 2.4Ghz cordless phones in the immediate area. |
| 19:28.56 | Dagmar | ...and ban bluetooth anything from the immediate area. |
| 19:29.20 | Dagmar | Those are what murder wlan performance. |
| 19:29.39 | Lunessa | BlueTooth - crappy tech made ubiquitous. |
| 19:29.53 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 19:29.56 | nevcairiel | the only place i use bluetooth is for my headset in the car |
| 19:30.52 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: I wouldn't even use it there. Sound quality a) terrible, and b) totally short-lived on battery life, and c) totally hackable. |
| 19:31.15 | nevcairiel | its a bluetooth headset with a range of what, 10 meters? I'm driving around with that, i want to see someone hack that |
| 19:31.41 | Adys | I JUST DID |
| 19:31.42 | Adys | AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH |
| 19:31.43 | nevcairiel | besides, what other cordless headsets do we have? :P |
| 19:32.44 | Dagmar | Zero |
| 19:32.57 | Dagmar | The hackability issue is moot since the window of opportunity only exists during pairing. |
| 19:33.00 | nevcairiel | When i get a new car, i'll get an integrated hands-free thing |
| 19:33.06 | nevcairiel | but until then |
| 19:33.10 | nevcairiel | it has to work |
| 19:33.53 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Mainly it's crappy gear, not really crappy bluetooth |
| 19:34.06 | Dagmar | If you get a *good* transciever, they work great. |
| 19:34.13 | Dagmar | Most things don't have good transcievers. |
| 19:34.37 | Lunessa | I have yet to find a single bluetooth headset that was worth doodly |
| 19:34.48 | Lopeppeppy | Anyway... it doesn't seem like it should be a problem. My big stumbling block to hooking up the desktop for WoW is that I can't run cord right now. |
| 19:34.49 | Dagmar | I got lucky and *one* of the USB bluetooth dongles I have is stellar and actually gets the advertised range--I can wander about my condo and stay in guild chat on vent with no problem |
| 19:34.57 | industrial | normal http://images.gammatester.com/pics/d2c66ee46780c37c2efee52f929d4258.png |
| 19:35.00 | industrial | the part I use http://images.gammatester.com/pics/95e5a23dcd098ec382a39bb45f8d1167.png |
| 19:35.03 | industrial | tem ^ |
| 19:35.09 | Dagmar | My Razr that I just ditched, if my ARM got between the phone in my pocket and my ear, I'd get static. |
| 19:35.33 | Dagmar | ...this is with the same motorola earpiece |
| 19:37.12 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I bought the XBox 360 wireless headset - it's not bluetooth, it requires a USB dongle to be the receiver, and it's got very good quality sound. The only part I don't like is the 6-7 hour battery life and that I can't charge it and use it at the same time. |
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| 19:41.23 | alestane | Who the heck would use a fist weapon "of the Eagle"? |
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| 19:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting EU poll... http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10711084974&sid=1 |
| 19:42.11 | Dagmar | Lunessa: That's actually not too bad |
| 19:42.27 | Dagmar | alestane: That is one of the reasons I actualyl liked the randomize gear population |
| 19:42.51 | Lunessa | Dagmar: No, it just sucks to be running heroics all day and when raid time comes, I hear the "low battery warning" sound. :P |
| 19:42.55 | industrial | Lopeppeppy: should be better ofcourse! more addons! |
| 19:43.00 | alestane | Intellect and Stamina on a Fist Weapon? |
| 19:43.21 | Lopeppeppy | Meh... can shaman use them? |
| 19:43.28 | alestane | Intellect and Agility, maybe, for an enhancement shammie. |
| 19:44.19 | industrial | I just go for pure damage stats wen leveling, they seem to be the best to me eg spellpower or str/agi/ap |
| 19:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | They likely are. I once found a shield with shadow power on it. :) |
| 19:44.55 | Lopeppeppy | Random is random, sometimes things creep in there. |
| 19:44.55 | industrial | alestane: I guess the mail/plate items with spirit are worse :D? |
| 19:45.09 | Lopeppeppy | Won't be come the expansion... |
| 19:45.16 | Fisker | not really Lopeppeppy |
| 19:45.29 | alestane | I found a shield with fiery wrath on it and gave it to my shammie, but shadow wrath on a shield should be literally useless. |
| 19:45.43 | Vonhinten | they never really gave spirit the HP regen properties it deserved |
| 19:46.15 | Vonhinten | and +hp/5 is laughable |
| 19:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | They're changing everything, and apparently paladins will need spirit come the expansion. |
| 19:46.35 | Lopeppeppy | So spirit plate is I guess more useful than a shadow power shield, at least. |
| 19:46.42 | industrial | Vonhinten: I imagine stacking hp/5 will make you invincible if it was actually any worth |
| 19:46.48 | industrial | worth any* |
| 19:47.08 | Vonhinten | yeah, if you let people stack it without any constraints... |
| 19:47.13 | industrial | like death knight with no hands :p |
| 19:47.22 | alestane | Three classes deal shadow damage and none of them can equip shields. |
| 19:47.22 | Dagmar | Spirit _used_ to be useful for paladins |
| 19:48.49 | Vonhinten | everyone should be able to use shields... did they ever see LoTR? Legolas slid down one on a stair one time... |
| 19:48.58 | Vonhinten | And hunters can't use shields!? |
| 19:49.13 | Dagmar | They're really good at holding crackers and cheese |
| 19:49.20 | Dagmar | THat's what I use 'em for. |
| 19:49.27 | Dagmar | Veyr decorative. |
| 19:50.05 | Dagmar | There's a word for people who shoot one-handed when they don't need to. |
| 19:50.18 | Dagmar | "Corpses." |
| 19:52.06 | Dagmar | The fun thing is that's what I've *always* told guildmates about shields--long before the wine and cheese daily in Dalaran. |
| 19:52.40 | Dagmar | I never did come up with a good explanation for the shards they'd make me take which are still cluttering up the bank |
| 19:52.54 | Dagmar | ...other than maybe usin' 'em as earplugs. |
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| 19:56.15 | _rane | is it possible to release corpse through API? |
| 19:56.50 | alestane | Dajik the Wasp Hunter says: No! You killed queen thing! What have you...wait, nevermind. Sorry, that okay. |
| 19:58.11 | Dagmar | :) |
| 19:58.34 | Dagmar | That's up there with certain Naxx bosses starting off with the wrong dialog |
| 19:59.28 | _rane | _rane: RepopMe()â¦â¦â¦ |
| 20:00.33 | Dagmar | The chatter on those guys is great |
| 20:01.50 | Dagmar | When he carped about not being able to skin unlooted mobs was my favorite |
| 20:02.34 | alestane | Time for more smart Dijk tip! Try not to catch stinger with face. Not work so good. |
| 20:05.39 | industrial | Dijk means Dyke in dutch |
| 20:05.48 | industrial | but um, the embankment. |
| 20:06.09 | industrial | :3 |
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| 20:07.27 | alestane | That's okay, I typed his name wrong, it's Dajik. |
| 20:07.44 | industrial | ah :p |
| 20:08.49 | Lunessa | Ahh... That's why I didn't know who that was - haven't done the bit to raise my Frenzyheart rep yet. |
| 20:09.06 | Dagmar | THe guys for both sides are hilarious |
| 20:09.21 | Dagmar | One of the oracles is such a spaz you just KNOW he should be on lithium |
| 20:09.29 | alestane | Especially when the Frenzyheart are ranting about how they don't like dumb people. |
| 20:11.15 | Lunessa | I'm leaving the Frenzyheart for rep #40 since it's a short grind. |
| 20:11.31 | alestane | Or, first you have to catch chickens for the Frenzyheart, then on the next arc, the guy who goes with you says, "Maybe later we let chickens out and say Goregek did it...that never get old." |
| 20:11.55 | industrial | haha |
| 20:12.10 | Dagmar | Chickens... bane of gorilladins |
| 20:12.43 | Dagmar | Almost got him!... *SPAFF*crackle* Well, there's another one over there... |
| 20:13.34 | alestane | That's what the net is for... |
| 20:15.57 | Dagmar | It's a race-condition thing |
| 20:16.12 | Dagmar | Like how sometimes you can be stunned for swinging a polearm at a squirrel with Aspect of the Cheetah on |
| 20:16.26 | Dagmar | You hit him, he dies, but SOMEHOW he gets in a zero-damage hit |
| 20:16.43 | Lopeppeppy | I really hated catching those whizbang freakin' chickens |
| 20:17.01 | Dagmar | It's easier with the run aspect |
| 20:17.08 | Dagmar | Not so easy with a thunderstomping gorilla tho |
| 20:17.10 | Dagmar | heh |
| 20:17.18 | Lunessa | *cry* Why do people insist on macros like this... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19717696059&sid=1 |
| 20:17.41 | Dagmar | Doesn't the usual "Because their parents didn't beat them enough" answer explain it? |
| 20:17.51 | Lopeppeppy | Don't tempt me, Dagmar... |
| 20:18.15 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Most people's parents didn't X them enough, values of X vary. |
| 20:18.23 | alestane | Dagmar: Put him on passive? |
| 20:18.55 | Dagmar | Yeah after the first few chickens got baked on the spot I did |
| 20:19.27 | Dagmar | My initial concern was that I was likely to zap some frenzyhearts |
| 20:19.42 | Dagmar | Shades of "Hail, Tarker Blazetoss!" there |
| 20:20.02 | alestane | Oh, y'know, i think I know how. My ghoul has a tendency to go after ANYTHING I act against, even things like webbing plague sprayers in Zul'Drak. |
| 20:20.24 | Dagmar | Yeah, because just for a moment, you're in combat with it |
| 20:20.30 | DWSR | Lunessa: Because people don't want to play the game. |
| 20:20.34 | DWSR | Lunessa: People just want their free hats. |
| 20:20.45 | Dagmar | NO MORE HATS FOR ANYONE! |
| 20:20.56 | Dagmar | Solves the problem nicely. |
| 20:21.09 | Lunessa | Mmmm... Free Hats. |
| 20:21.25 | durcyn | get back up on off of my halo, now. |
| 20:21.56 | Lopeppeppy | I want a hat. *sniff* |
| 20:22.05 | alestane | "I spent hours doing absolutely nothing for those hats!" |
| 20:22.27 | Dagmar | I think the solution to that is similar to what I wanted in AV |
| 20:22.34 | Dagmar | You hit idle, you get flagged FFA |
| 20:22.38 | durcyn | the divisiveness spawned by the Cheater's Lament is truly amazing, though |
| 20:22.52 | Dagmar | Not enough beatings, I'm telling you. |
| 20:23.22 | DWSR | durcyn: truly. |
| 20:24.32 | wsoul | is it possible to have background border with bartender4? |
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| 20:30.45 | Lopeppeppy | Argh, time to go spring my kitty with half my paycheck! See y'all later. |
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| 20:30.52 | luigithekid | Does anyone know if Satrina Buff Timer can have an in combat filter, only shows a certain buff if in combat? |
| 20:31.43 | durcyn | you know, if I wasn't lazy, I'd make a crack about spending money to get pussy |
| 20:32.23 | alestane | "Maybe more shiny bugs! We like bugs!: |
| 20:36.13 | Lunessa | luigithekid: I'm sure it does. Look under "Filter Help" in the options screen. |
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| 20:40.28 | luigithekid | Didn't see it anywhere for a single buff/debuff on a frame, but you can apply that to a frame, so went that route. thanks though |
| 20:43.21 | Shirik | hold p |
| 20:43.26 | Shirik | yo, UK people |
| 20:43.30 | Shirik | your emergency number is 999? |
| 20:44.33 | alestane | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/6155017/Trapped-girls-updated-Facebook-instead-of-calling-police.html |
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| 20:48.14 | Lunessa | alestane: <sarcasm> Shocking </sarcasm> |
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| 21:14.09 | Kraps | afternoon |
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| 21:15.18 | Adys | Hard-coded colors are evil; in syntax files especially so. Have you considered if there is a better way? |
| 21:15.18 | Adys | > A search through the syntax highlighters shows over 400 instances of manual suggestions of colours. I therefore assert that this is the standard thing to do when adding a new language construct which |
| 21:15.18 | Adys | > Kate does not automatically highlight; there is significant precedent for doing it this way at least. |
| 21:15.27 | Adys | What |
| 21:15.31 | Adys | a fucking |
| 21:15.34 | Adys | m-o-r-o-n |
| 21:16.31 | industrial | vim! |
| 21:16.33 | industrial | marches |
| 21:16.52 | Kraps | i'm guessing wow.com has no proofreaders? |
| 21:17.57 | Kraps | "Hence, enter the "10-man strict" ratings -- these are guilds who have not run any 25-man content, according to a set of criteria that GuildOx has put together?" |
| 21:18.13 | Kraps | is not a question |
| 21:18.58 | tem | lawl I'm 3 experience short of leveling |
| 21:19.10 | haste | time to discover a zone! |
| 21:19.11 | NightHawkTheSane | 3? nice. |
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| 21:22.05 | Lunessa | Kraps: People who fail basic punctuation and sentence structure should have an editor proof their work before it goes on the site. |
| 21:22.49 | kdtresh | that rule should apply to everything |
| 21:22.50 | Lunessa | Sites which consistently post things I find painful to read on that basis lose me as a viewer and advertising eyeballs. |
| 21:25.24 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just amused that the only thing you found wrong with wowinsider was their proofreading. |
| 21:25.29 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 21:25.30 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 21:27.52 | tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.57 | tem | Oculus is the daily heroic again |
| 21:28.01 | tem | 3 days in a row |
| 21:28.08 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: i dont get what everyones beef with them is |
| 21:28.09 | tem | s/3/2/ |
| 21:28.17 | tem | 2 days ago was old kingdom |
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| 21:28.50 | Lunessa | tem: On Kirin Tor (US) We had it for almost a week straight - before it went to Old Kingdom. |
| 21:29.09 | tem | yeah, I definitely feel your pain |
| 21:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | they're hacks who engage in crappy sensationalist journalism, post little content of actual value, engage in the vilest form of rumor mongering and gossip. |
| 21:29.42 | Legorol | facepalms really hard |
| 21:29.48 | Lunessa | Until today, I'm not entirely certain I'd ever visited their site. And ... it's pretty terrible. |
| 21:30.03 | Kraps | ...what |
| 21:30.14 | Legorol | One of our officers just "proved" that if everyone in a 25-man raid replaces their rare gems with epic ones, on average in a 5 min fight, we'd do about 6 million damage extra. |
| 21:30.20 | Legorol | Hurray for completely flawed math |
| 21:30.25 | NightHawkTheSane | it's like if fox news hired the local knitting circle from a school for the mentally challenged. |
| 21:31.17 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane is angry |
| 21:31.41 | NightHawkTheSane | hah. thats hardly angry. thats just honest. :) |
| 21:31.43 | Lunessa | http://www.innumeracy.com/ |
| 21:31.50 | NightHawkTheSane | angry is far more obscene. |
| 21:32.10 | Lunessa | Yeah, he spits when he's made and we have to bleep his language. |
| 21:32.22 | Lunessa | s /made/mad |
| 21:32.51 | NightHawkTheSane | it's true |
| 21:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't suppose anyone here is intimately familiar with the qTip jquery library? |
| 21:36.31 | Kraps | you mean like dating? |
| 21:38.29 | Ackis | Legorol: how did he proove that? |
| 21:38.47 | Ackis | my calculations came to 7 million! :P |
| 21:38.57 | Legorol | by making multiple seriously flawed steps as he was estimating various numbers |
| 21:39.07 | Legorol | the most glaring one is that 5 mins = 18000 seconds |
| 21:39.42 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: o_0 |
| 21:40.03 | Ackis | 5 * 60 == 18000 sweet |
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| 21:40.11 | Legorol | fail math is fail |
| 21:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | how did he manage to get like two orders of magnitude off. |
| 21:40.48 | Legorol | probably by doing 5 * 60 * 60 and then accidentally adding another 0 |
| 21:42.05 | NightHawkTheSane | you'd have to be a liberal arts major or something to be that bad at math. |
| 21:43.01 | Ackis | NightHawkTheSane: I made a joke like that once... |
| 21:43.08 | Ackis | in my english 101 class |
| 21:43.10 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:43.14 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 21:44.08 | Ackis | I also made the analogy of me throwing a rock at the teacher being the same thing as frankenstein attacking her |
| 21:44.15 | Ackis | don't think that went over well either |
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| 21:54.59 | Lunessa | You strike me as the kind of guy who would put a turd in the punchbowl for a prank. |
| 21:55.13 | Fisker | why would you say such a thing? |
| 21:58.08 | Ackis | Lunessa: that wouldn't be funny |
| 21:58.13 | Ackis | a fake turd maybe |
| 21:58.16 | Ackis | not a real one |
| 21:59.00 | Ackis | fake poop -- funny! |
| 21:59.02 | NeoTron | Legorol: I'd like to see that proof. is it written proof? |
| 21:59.05 | NeoTron | would make for a good read |
| 22:00.03 | Legorol | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/124867 |
| 22:01.29 | Lunessa | Legorol: Not only is his math terrible, but so are his grammar, spelling and punctuation. Did this guy just fail out of primary school? |
| 22:01.38 | Ackis | please say you mocked his post Legorol |
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| 22:01.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: oh god, i think my brain just broke. |
| 22:01.56 | NeoTron | Legorol: I would like to see the answers to that man. |
| 22:02.00 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 22:02.00 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 22:02.02 | NeoTron | gah |
| 22:02.22 | Legorol | i chose not to reply, because whatever i would have said, would have been disastrous |
| 22:02.23 | Buuyo | :se ts=4 sw=4 nocindent ai imo |
| 22:02.25 | Buuyo | :P |
| 22:02.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 22:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | there really isn't any sane response to that that doesn't involve profanity and some derogatory comments about his mother. |
| 22:03.29 | Buuyo | Does the cast bar under a nameplate always show? Or does is there some sort of requirement? (like someone in the raid has to be targeting the unit.) |
| 22:05.37 | foxlit | Officers that use the letter u as a word make baby kittens cry. |
| 22:06.47 | Hjalte | Buuyo: Afaik only the castbar of your target will show. |
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| 22:09.31 | NeoTron | Legorol: wait was that an officer? |
| 22:10.10 | Legorol | yes sadly |
| 22:10.28 | NeoTron | Legorol: and is your guild named "The Special People Club"? |
| 22:10.34 | Legorol | yes i'm looking for a new guild, anyone know a good one on Silvermoon? :o) |
| 22:15.10 | mikma | lol lol lol no. |
| 22:16.56 | Kraps | Stranger: hi |
| 22:16.58 | Kraps | You: i need help, i accidentaly a whole soda what should i do? |
| 22:16.59 | Kraps | Stranger: accidentaly what |
| 22:17.01 | Kraps | You: a whole soda |
| 22:17.03 | Kraps | Your conversational partner has disconnected. |
| 22:18.10 | mikma | hehe |
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| 22:24.00 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/putin_working_hard.jpg |
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| 22:25.06 | Kalroth | mikma: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/12/1746244 |
| 22:26.37 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/2u55ego.jpg |
| 22:27.40 | Buuyo | that putin picture is me at work |
| 22:28.35 | mikma | i'm so sorry |
| 22:29.02 | Buuyo | Boring day :/ |
| 22:29.21 | Kalroth | so i herd mikma lieks mudkipz |
| 22:29.38 | mikma | sure, what are they? |
| 22:29.42 | Kalroth | :( |
| 22:30.24 | Kalroth | mikma: http://media.photobucket.com/image/mudkipz/itachi412/mudkipz.jpg |
| 22:33.00 | Kraps | Kalroth: i still dont know what they are |
| 22:33.47 | Kraps | http://slashdot.org/submission/1068401/Windows-7-reintroduces-remote-BSoD |
| 22:39.58 | jnwhiteh | I've got 6 more HoN beta invites if anyone wants. |
| 22:40.43 | jnwhiteh | just PM me with your email address |
| 22:40.52 | mikma | is it a good game |
| 22:40.56 | jnwhiteh | I enjoy it |
| 22:42.03 | jnwhiteh | bbl |
| 22:48.40 | Buuyo | http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/07/2678945.htm just thought this must be shared if not already seen. |
| 22:48.52 | Buuyo | almost darwin award worthy |
| 22:55.06 | Kraps | Buuyo: /facepalm |
| 22:55.33 | Buuyo | kids these days. ;) |
| 22:56.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-40-12.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 22:56.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 22:58.08 | kd3 | hm... lots less imagelinks now than there were before |
| 22:58.13 | kd3 | still a few hundred too many, though |
| 23:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ~logs |
| 23:03.49 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 23:05.50 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:05.52 | Fisker | slaps ScytheBlade1 around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:05.56 | Fisker | s/me roars |
| 23:06.00 | Fisker | old btw Kraps |
| 23:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | burninates Fisker |
| 23:16.47 | kd3 | wahaha... |
| 23:17.05 | kd3 | is controlling his dtv box from his computer's remote |
| 23:17.05 | Lopeppeppy | mrph? |
| 23:17.13 | kd3 | one less remote I need to keep around now |
| 23:17.20 | Lopeppeppy | You are sly and made of wonder. |
| 23:34.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Yssaril (n=Yssaril@99-57-35-45.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:35.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Santiclause (n=Santicla@CPE001839f2bff8-CM000a736654b2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:38.19 | Lunessa | Your computer must have a very nice remote. |
| 23:38.38 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't had a computer with a remote in... like 10 years. |
| 23:39.13 | kd3 | meh, it came with the tv tuner card I bought a few years back |
| 23:39.26 | kd3 | was just being lazy about using it for anything other than mythtv |
| 23:39.44 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbAIpZG7II |
| 23:39.57 | Kraps | important vid |
| 23:40.18 | Lunessa | drops a nuke on Kraps from orbit. It was the only way to be SURE. |
| 23:43.22 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6qyd7dbLyM&feature=related |
| 23:49.20 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke Kraps |
| 23:49.20 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Kraps with his mind powers. |
| 23:49.34 | Yssaril | has anyone else been having problems to connect to freenode? yesterday i had to connect via their webchat site today it took 7 tries before it connected |
| 23:50.05 | Lopeppeppy | I do fine connecting with Trillian. |
| 23:50.21 | Kraps | HALP IM BIENG ATAKED BY NUCALER LAZERS |
| 23:50.42 | Lunessa | O was able to login just fine to freenode all weekend and today |
| 23:52.36 | the-golem | gives Kraps a reflecto-disc |
| 23:53.01 | Kraps | ty TG |
| 23:53.28 | the-golem | yw |
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| 23:56.25 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4sXIUeEiMU&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:56.26 | mikma | hehe |
| 23:56.57 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm headed home. Have a wonderful evening. |
