| 00:00.00 | Esamynn | Dagmar: how is that a "different breed of poster" isn't that the regular kind? |
| 00:00.11 | Gnarfoz | Esamynn: wasn't it so that there isn't a linear conversion? |
| 00:00.18 | wobin | purl needs a C to F |
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| 00:00.37 | Dagmar | Esamynn: No, there's the "histronic child", and the "wannabe lawyer" (which is close to this), the "know-it-all", the "last word bandit"... |
| 00:00.39 | Esamynn | Gnarfoz: not sure what you mean |
| 00:00.40 | Thunder_Child | i bet purl has one |
| 00:00.40 | wobin | Thunder_Child: LoL? |
| 00:00.46 | Dagmar | There's LOTS of different forum fauna |
| 00:00.58 | Thunder_Child | wobin, league of legends |
| 00:01.01 | Lunessa | Holy fuck... I've had to explain to this girl 5 times which key is the backslash |
| 00:01.07 | Esamynn | Dagmar: see, I would call "moron" a superset of most of those |
| 00:01.12 | Kraps | http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/ |
| 00:01.16 | Dagmar | Unless you have a service level agreement, the only thing you're entitled to is "sorry" |
| 00:01.18 | wobin | Lunessa: "Lean Back(slash)" |
| 00:01.22 | Kraps | must read |
| 00:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | Esamynn, I have no idea why it's only 60. The two nearest thermostats are set to 72, and Facilities keeps telling us it's our fault for turning them down... |
| 00:01.30 | Lunessa | wobin "Key above the enter" |
| 00:01.30 | Esamynn | Lunessa: oh dear |
| 00:01.44 | Esamynn | Lunessa: is she at least hot? (even if she had no brain?) |
| 00:02.03 | Dagmar | Esamynn: Well, the differences are subtle... The histrionic child may never say anything that's technically incorrect, excepting that the world is NOT ending because FoK is being nerfed |
| 00:02.03 | Lunessa | Esamynn: No clue she called from another building |
| 00:02.11 | wobin | Lunessa: you need a visual comparison to the symbol, not the location =) |
| 00:02.16 | bleeter | ~google 65 degrees celsius in Fahrenheit |
| 00:02.22 | bleeter | was a thought |
| 00:02.25 | wobin | so when she's single finger picking at the keys... she can find it |
| 00:02.32 | Esamynn | Lunessa: :( |
| 00:02.37 | kd3 | !g 65 celsius in fahrenheit |
| 00:02.37 | batbot | kd3: Celsius To Fahrenheit Chart <http://www.texloc.com/closet/cl_cel_fah_chart.html> |
| 00:02.42 | Dagmar | These are all classifications from a card game I have at home, too |
| 00:02.43 | kd3 | blah |
| 00:02.47 | wobin | lol |
| 00:02.48 | Gnarfoz | already got a formula |
| 00:02.50 | Gnarfoz | http://math.about.com/od/formulas/a/temp.htm |
| 00:02.52 | wobin | "help yourself" |
| 00:03.04 | Gnarfoz | 5/9(FarenheitTemperature-32) |
| 00:03.09 | Esamynn | 9/5 + 32, it's not a tough formula |
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| 00:03.50 | Lunessa | Ok, so... I'm going home before it gets more insane in here. |
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| 00:03.55 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:03.55 | bleeter | only tough if the only time one needs it is when talknig to imperialist seppos :P |
| 00:03.57 | Lunessa | See you tomorrow. |
| 00:03.59 | Gnarfoz | Farenheit could just die, but the same goes for Imperial measurements etc |
| 00:04.02 | bleeter | cya Lunessa |
| 00:04.06 | Gnarfoz | so it's not looking too good on that front |
| 00:04.24 | Esamynn | I blame the Americans |
| 00:04.38 | wobin | Yeah, they can't pass the blame to the Canadians this time =) |
| 00:04.43 | kd3 | the hell? a 64-bit build of wine in fedora? |
| 00:04.46 | kd3 | wtfs |
| 00:04.58 | Esamynn | hmm? |
| 00:05.14 | Gnarfoz | a 64-bit build of Imperial measurements? d'oh :o |
| 00:06.19 | Dagmar | JUST TYPE IT INTO GOOGLE. |
| 00:06.26 | Dagmar | Sheesh |
| 00:06.34 | Dagmar | "59C in F" and it'll just tell you |
| 00:06.35 | Thunder_Child | we are getting to reliant on google |
| 00:07.21 | wobin | Dagmar: I don't want to have to swap to google to do it when I want the answer here |
| 00:09.27 | wobin | Dagmar: also, 59C in F is stupidly hot |
| 00:10.15 | Dagmar | Good for coffee |
| 00:12.26 | Aqua | what in gods name did blizzard break that some of the servers were down for almost 18 hours |
| 00:12.49 | Lopeppeppy | Something fragile and fun. |
| 00:14.11 | bleeter | kd3: wut |
| 00:14.32 | kd3 | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=130019 |
| 00:16.50 | kd3 | aqua; hardware upgrades for the instances issue |
| 00:17.57 | kd3 | and whee; a new tropical storm in the atlantic |
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| 00:19.05 | bleeter | kd3: nice |
| 00:19.08 | bleeter | re 64bit |
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| 00:27.56 | kd3 | sigh. 'Trying to load PE image for unsupported architecture (I386)' |
| 00:28.02 | kd3 | gets started downloading the .586 builds |
| 00:29.00 | Jerub | i had no succses at all with wine on 64bit fedora |
| 00:29.09 | Jerub | to the point that running 'notepad.exe' would hardlock the machine |
| 00:29.29 | kd3 | were you using the provided rpms or trying to build from source without the needed .i586 deps? |
| 00:29.54 | Jerub | i used packages for the 32 bit rpms. |
| 00:30.11 | Jerub | I think it was interaction with the video driver that killed it. |
| 00:33.28 | kd3 | grrs having to update shellscripts to point to wine32 instead of wine |
| 00:35.35 | Arrowmaster | oh are realms still down? |
| 00:35.40 | kd3 | no |
| 00:35.42 | Aqua | some of them aren't up |
| 00:35.44 | kd3 | just the few dozen listed |
| 00:35.51 | Aqua | <--- mine |
| 00:36.05 | Arrowmaster | realm my characters are on isnt up |
| 00:36.43 | Adys | WTF is up with everyone going nuts when gmail goes down more than half a millisecond |
| 00:36.45 | Arrowmaster | but wow works fine for me using the debian unstable deb's on amd64 =D |
| 00:37.01 | Adys | "This is proof enterprises shouldn't switch to gmail!!!" |
| 00:37.09 | mikma | lol |
| 00:37.15 | Adys | obviously enterprise-local email has so much more uptime than gmail. |
| 00:37.27 | Thunder_Child | Adys, it's exactly the same with RIM |
| 00:37.41 | Arrowmaster | i swear something is wacky with my sound in wow, probably something to do with wine |
| 00:37.50 | Aqua | people are just looking for a reason to bitch |
| 00:37.53 | bleeter | Adys: gmail http went down. pop and impa didn't |
| 00:37.55 | bleeter | imap |
| 00:37.59 | Arrowmaster | theres so much fucking bass coming from the login screen dragon |
| 00:38.16 | bleeter | problem is people being tied to http gmail w/o having imap/pop fallback established |
| 00:38.38 | Arrowmaster | i use gmail via imap |
| 00:38.57 | Arrowmaster | just wish there were better ways to manage contacts without using the web |
| 00:39.33 | Adys | jesus fucking shitfuck I want to hurt someone. |
| 00:39.38 | Aqua | ?? |
| 00:39.59 | airtonix | lewl |
| 00:40.04 | Adys | "Google has reached a deal with Sony to get Chrome pre-installed by OEMs on a new range of laptops" => GOOGLE IS IVUL |
| 00:40.20 | Adys | man if they put firefox in there, mozilla would be a god. |
| 00:40.26 | Duman | yay, new keg today |
| 00:40.59 | airtonix | so you're an alchoholic? |
| 00:42.24 | Aqua | wonder if blizzard would ever release technical issues of what went on with the realms |
| 00:42.31 | kd3 | no |
| 00:42.34 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone just wants to QQ. |
| 00:42.43 | Aqua | i'd just like to know a Y |
| 00:42.44 | Lopeppeppy | And I seriously doubt that, Aqua |
| 00:42.54 | Adys | Can someone give me a fucking break, AND a fucking explanation. |
| 00:43.31 | mikma | ~break adys |
| 00:43.32 | purl | ACTION installs Windows into adys's brain, reboots it, adds more Microsoft products, and reboots again. |
| 00:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | You know why. They are installing some crap, and it's not going smoothly. I can count the number of smooth major installs on one fragment of a finger of one hand. Computers are just like that. Chill. |
| 00:43.33 | Duman | not likely, unless you work at Blizz :) |
| 00:43.38 | kd3 | 'things broke. very smart people getting bitched at by upper management did their best to finish it in a time period generously described as "I need it yesterday." after much wailing and gnashing of teeth, things were magically fixed." |
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| 00:43.47 | kd3 | tada |
| 00:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | That's the usual scenario, kd3. |
| 00:44.02 | Aqua | I never have issues with software / hardware upgrades, but we plan a long time |
| 00:44.12 | Duman | you've done them on the same scale? |
| 00:44.15 | kd3 | ^ |
| 00:44.17 | Adys | How can an open source browser, that is built on top of an open source engine, that is a lot more standard-compliant than Firefox, but is marketed by Google ... be a worse browser than Firefox which is owned by a smaller, just-as-for-profit company, but is old as shit |
| 00:44.20 | Aqua | yea |
| 00:44.30 | Duman | and you're aware of the scale @ Blizz? :) |
| 00:44.33 | Aqua | Did them for Toyota Motor Manufacturing one year |
| 00:44.44 | Aqua | trust me, there's was massive |
| 00:44.52 | Duman | not all "upgrades" are equal |
| 00:44.57 | Aqua | true |
| 00:45.13 | Duman | a lot has to do with the actual hardware config - but lots also has to do with the software (plural) running on things |
| 00:45.21 | Aqua | and we had longer than 18 hours |
| 00:45.26 | Duman | heh |
| 00:45.31 | Lopeppeppy | We do them weekly at my college, 2/3 of the time something borks. The best laid plans often go awry. |
| 00:45.38 | Lopeppeppy | Chill is a good thing. |
| 00:46.04 | Duman | it's sort of funny... in all the years I've done ops work... it's the SMOOTH ones that scare me the most |
| 00:46.17 | kd3 | ^^^^^ |
| 00:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, because then you wonder what silently failed and is gonna bite you in the ass tomorrow. |
| 00:46.32 | Duman | hehe |
| 00:46.39 | Jerub | the scariest upgrades i've heard of are at ebay. |
| 00:46.39 | Aqua | or a week later |
| 00:46.45 | Adys | "Mozilla has done an amazing job doing browser mockups and google should really learn from them: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/4.0_Windows_Theme_Mockups" |
| 00:46.52 | Adys | is this sarcasm or incredible cluelessness? |
| 00:46.53 | Duman | jerub: funny you mentionm that... i used to work at ebay :) |
| 00:46.57 | Lopeppeppy | Or next month, when you can't prove it was from the upgrade. |
| 00:46.59 | Jerub | Duman: heh |
| 00:47.27 | bleeter | Adys: what annoys the crap out of me is that people will seemingly defend google to the death, and they're as much of a bunch of asshats as the next major near-monopoly |
| 00:47.35 | Cloudwolf | !api camera |
| 00:47.36 | lua_bot | Found 11 possible results for 'camera': CommentatorSetCamera, CameraZoomOut, CommentatorGetCamera, FlipCameraYaw, CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart, CameraZoomIn, VehicleCameraZoomOut, CommentatorSetCameraCollision, CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop, Model:SetCamera, VehicleCameraZoomIn |
| 00:47.50 | Cloudwolf | !distance |
| 00:47.53 | Dagmar | Yeah, nevermind that they give us all the best spam filtering in existance, as well as all those goddamn useful services |
| 00:47.54 | Cloudwolf | !api distance |
| 00:47.54 | lua_bot | CheckInteractDistance: Returns whether the player is close enough to a unit for certain types of interaction (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CheckInteractDistance) |
| 00:47.56 | Dagmar | They're just assholes |
| 00:48.13 | Adys | bleeter: Google being an absolute monopoly would be a gigantic improvement over whats currently available |
| 00:48.28 | bleeter | not |
| 00:48.30 | Jerub | k, i'm searching around and not finding an answer. |
| 00:48.42 | Jerub | how do I query my toon to figure out his current armor penetration number. |
| 00:48.50 | Dagmar | bleeter: Clearly, you're being sarcastic |
| 00:48.55 | bleeter | Adys: why replace one bunch of hero worship with another? instead of MS forcing standards thru ISO, it's Google. |
| 00:48.56 | Arrowmaster | sorry but google still fucking fails hardcore on many things |
| 00:49.01 | Cloudwolf | what is the api for a macro to set your max cam zoom? |
| 00:49.08 | Adys | bleeter: your paranoia-fuckness aside because I know you... i mean shit, they're working on making linux worthwhile, they're working on making rendering engines worthwhile |
| 00:49.12 | bleeter | both only have one interest, the shareholders |
| 00:49.14 | Aqua | scariest upgrade i ever did, was target |
| 00:49.17 | Arrowmaster | google apps integration with real google accounts is fucking nonexistant |
| 00:49.20 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah they completely suck at pizza delivery |
| 00:49.25 | Cloudwolf | !api zoom |
| 00:49.25 | lua_bot | Found 13 possible matches for 'zoom'. Please be more specific |
| 00:49.29 | Cloudwolf | !api maxzoom |
| 00:49.30 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'maxzoom'. |
| 00:49.33 | Cloudwolf | ... |
| 00:49.34 | bleeter | Adys: only for their own shareholders... they're an advertising company. you've fallen for their marketing! |
| 00:49.37 | Aqua | Target was a damn mess |
| 00:49.42 | Jerub | !api armor |
| 00:49.42 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'armor': UnitArmor, GetArmorPenetration |
| 00:49.46 | Jerub | woo |
| 00:49.48 | Jerub | there's my answer :D |
| 00:49.54 | Dagmar | Strangely, I have no problems with Google Apps |
| 00:49.59 | kd3 | aqua; I'm there now. I know. |
| 00:50.03 | Adys | bleeter: theres a reason they're the most powerful and effective advertising company on earth |
| 00:50.07 | Adys | they made ads WORTHWHILE |
| 00:50.08 | kd3 | looks for another shot |
| 00:50.15 | Adys | they made everything that sucked worthwhile |
| 00:50.17 | Dagmar | Still waiting on a GOogle Voice invite, but I've used a third of their apps stuf |
| 00:50.23 | Adys | and fuck, they're about to do the same with linux too |
| 00:50.39 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck can i only have google voice on my google account that has a gmail.com address and be forced to share the same addressbook between that email and google voice instead of putting google voice on my google apps account |
| 00:50.50 | Dagmar | I think some of you are just grumpy because Google is hoarding all the ludicrously smart people |
| 00:50.54 | bleeter | Adys: you say that as if Linux was cool |
| 00:51.06 | Adys | its got tons of potential |
| 00:51.08 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone's grumpy today. |
| 00:51.12 | Arrowmaster | i have my own fucking name as a domain name why the fuck do i have to use an address book for google voice thats tied to an online alias |
| 00:51.14 | bleeter | Adys: linux ain't that great. if they were serious about a free OS, they'd start from scratch and get rid of a shedload of the crud |
| 00:51.24 | Adys | No |
| 00:51.25 | Jerub | bleeter: I don't understand. |
| 00:51.30 | Adys | that would be a totally unnecessary move |
| 00:51.43 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: No idea. LIke I said the other day, I do. |
| 00:51.48 | Jerub | bleeter: do you mean the software that runs on the kernel isn't that great? or the kernel isn't that great? |
| 00:52.09 | bleeter | yes |
| 00:52.10 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i seriously want to know how the fuck you did that |
| 00:52.42 | Dagmar | NO idea man. I just set it up with Dreamhost and it basically all works like it's supposed to |
| 00:52.57 | Adys | also theres a huge difference between "one google service sucks ass" and "google are assholes" |
| 00:53.05 | Adys | there is a good three hundred services |
| 00:53.08 | Cairenn | invites Lopeppeppy to come join her in throwing popcorn at the screen while we watch the boys catfighting |
| 00:53.13 | Adys | active ones that is |
| 00:53.16 | Arrowmaster | no im complaining that the entire google accounts service sucks ass |
| 00:53.18 | Adys | hey cair thats my popcorn |
| 00:53.23 | Arrowmaster | in how they connect services |
| 00:53.38 | kd3 | screw popcorn. hand me more hard liquor |
| 00:53.48 | bleeter | MOAR? |
| 00:53.57 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i dunno what's wrong with you >> I got a google apps acc, a bunch of normal accs, and one single login through screwtons of websites |
| 00:54.32 | Cairenn | kd3: sorry, no liquor right now, still too sick, don't want to dump booze on top of the meds |
| 00:54.33 | Adys | and half the time I dont even need to login, I just need an active session with one of them and Im auto logged in |
| 00:54.33 | Dagmar | I'd say go prod it some more |
| 00:54.41 | Arrowmaster | also why the does my google account thats not using a gmail email require atleast an 8 character password while my gmail account requires atleast a 6 character password |
| 00:54.41 | Dagmar | It might have been a momentary effup |
| 00:54.46 | bleeter | ALL WILL BECOME GOOGLE BEFORE THE ASSIMILATION |
| 00:55.23 | Dagmar | geez |
| 00:55.32 | Dagmar | Complain about something even more trivial |
| 00:55.58 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles up with Cairenn, it's tons more fun. |
| 00:56.01 | mikma | google crap |
| 00:56.02 | bleeter | Cairenn: on meds? for a cold? perfect time for dumping booze on top! |
| 00:56.04 | Cairenn | nod |
| 00:56.05 | mikma | i mean, chat |
| 00:56.25 | Lopeppeppy | I just took my meds, so no booze for me either. |
| 00:56.26 | Dagmar | Whiskey is self-sanitizing |
| 00:56.27 | Dagmar | :) |
| 00:56.44 | Aqua | We are Google: Resistance is Futile... |
| 00:56.46 | Arrowmaster | haha i broke google |
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| 00:57.10 | Lopeppeppy | You wish |
| 00:57.38 | Aqua | wow, blizzard pushed back the servers till 6:30pm PDT |
| 00:57.55 | Arrowmaster | Oops. A calendar already exists for *@*.com |
| 00:57.56 | Arrowmaster | Each calendar needs its own email address so friends can send you invitations. |
| 00:57.56 | Arrowmaster | Go to your null calendar |
| 00:57.56 | Arrowmaster | New invitations sent to *@*.com will be added to this calendar. If you have an account at null, you can sign in at: |
| 00:57.59 | Arrowmaster | http://calendar.google.com/hosted/null |
| 00:58.07 | Arrowmaster | i only changed the email, it really says null |
| 00:58.26 | Jerub | oh, is wow still not up? I jumped on earlier but it was laggy as hell doing actoins |
| 00:58.32 | Dagmar | Something's just not set up with your account I suspect |
| 00:59.19 | Aqua | the handful of servers that they keep pushing back, got pushed out again |
| 00:59.24 | Jerub | oh right |
| 01:00.26 | JackBurton | my server is up but the lag makes doing anything meaningful impossible |
| 01:00.59 | Cloudwolf | !api camera |
| 01:00.59 | lua_bot | Found 11 possible results for 'camera': CommentatorSetCamera, CameraZoomOut, CommentatorGetCamera, FlipCameraYaw, CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart, CameraZoomIn, VehicleCameraZoomOut, CommentatorSetCameraCollision, CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop, Model:SetCamera, VehicleCameraZoomIn |
| 01:01.15 | airtonix | google gadgets api is retarded |
| 01:01.26 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: didn't you do that query earlier? |
| 01:01.32 | Cloudwolf | yes i did |
| 01:01.41 | Cloudwolf | and it defenantly hasn't changed :D |
| 01:01.58 | Jerub | !api teabag |
| 01:01.59 | bleeter | kd3: haha on ATI, d3d won't start at all... ogl is giving me.. noise, not a black screen kinda a scrambled desktop |
| 01:02.05 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'teabag'. |
| 01:02.12 | Jerub | damn :( |
| 01:02.15 | kd3 | ouch |
| 01:02.20 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: so know anybody at google that can make my accounts behave like yours? |
| 01:02.21 | Jerub | goes back to doing it manually. |
| 01:02.21 | Jerub | :D |
| 01:02.27 | bleeter | kd3: this is the open source driver |
| 01:02.28 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: yep. |
| 01:02.39 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: i know the poeple, but i'm not making any introductions ;) |
| 01:02.46 | Adys | ati is terrible, la la, la la |
| 01:02.59 | Cloudwolf | found it |
| 01:03.04 | bleeter | Adys: please send replacement video card for my laptop kthx |
| 01:03.07 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: why not? |
| 01:03.17 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: ENOBEER |
| 01:03.29 | Cloudwolf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:04.11 | bleeter | kd3: if only we knew someone with intel video haha |
| 01:04.23 | Adys | I have an intel laptop |
| 01:04.24 | kd3 | whips out his netbook |
| 01:04.26 | bleeter | kd3: 'r300VertexProfUpdateParams:Params exhausted' |
| 01:04.28 | Adys | two actually |
| 01:04.32 | bleeter | *Prog |
| 01:04.39 | bleeter | Adys: and how's the PTR on it? |
| 01:04.48 | Adys | I dunno its not installed |
| 01:04.58 | Jerub | I have a linux machine with a i945 |
| 01:05.25 | bleeter | well we might have more chance of nailing this bug by using open source drivers |
| 01:05.28 | bleeter | is all I'm saying |
| 01:05.59 | Adys | lets see |
| 01:06.00 | Adys | gmail! |
| 01:06.06 | Adys | to the rescue, ta, tuhtaaah |
| 01:06.58 | Adys | no bug filed for it yet |
| 01:07.11 | Adys | time for a +opengl trace |
| 01:07.58 | Thunder_Child | !api Adys sex life |
| 01:07.58 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Adys sex life'. |
| 01:08.56 | Adys | must you know, gf was out in crete for summer :P |
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| 01:09.22 | Thunder_Child | i cant help if it is obvious |
| 01:10.27 | Arrowmaster | fuck i cant play with this google labs toy since i cant create cnames |
| 01:12.42 | bleeter | hmm should those trace:opengl:wine_glGetError () be as frequent as they seem to be? |
| 01:18.27 | Adys | bleeter: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19909 |
| 01:19.15 | Adys | bleeter: seems not |
| 01:19.40 | Adys | bleeter: in the old trace, there isn't a single match -i of "error" |
| 01:25.28 | Thunder_Child | you. can. not. have. fog. underwater. |
| 01:25.37 | Arrowmaster | heh i broke googles own email migration program because i have both a google account and google apps account with the same email address as the login name |
| 01:26.16 | Dagmar | That would probably be the cause |
| 01:26.16 | theorbtwo | has long wanted a "soaked" (de)buff that automagically happens for a certian time after you swim. |
| 01:26.26 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Are we getting that? |
| 01:27.21 | theorbtwo | Not so far as I know, but Thunder_Child's complaint reminded me of it. I doubt it'll happen, it'd change the dynamics a bit for everything near the shoreline, and there's a lot of stuff near shorelines. |
| 01:28.10 | theorbtwo | Would be N% off resist for cold, N% on resist for fire, or the like. |
| 01:28.35 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh, that sounds hideous. |
| 01:28.40 | bleeter | glMatrixMode would seem partly involved somewhere |
| 01:29.03 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Really? |
| 01:30.17 | theorbtwo | Seems mostly like an excuse for an immersion-helping visual effect. What's so bad about it? |
| 01:30.43 | bleeter | I've thought that weather shound do stuff, like screw with fire spells if it's raining |
| 01:30.43 | bleeter | and wtf is it with fire spells underwater anyways?? |
| 01:30.44 | bleeter | Adys, kd3: glMatrixMode would seem partly involved somewhere. the errors being thrown in PTR would seem to be that call in Live. |
| 01:30.44 | Adys | bleeter: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19909 |
| 01:30.44 | bleeter | Adys: yes |
| 01:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, yes, really. It sounds hideously complex to add such a debuff for no apparent reason. |
| 01:30.48 | Adys | [PATCH 0/7] Implement AcceptEx (try 6) winepatch |
| 01:30.52 | Adys | lulz |
| 01:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | If it didn't cost so much overhead, it might be a neat RP effect, like when you talk to the sparkly guy under the draeni ship, you get Happy or something. |
| 01:32.16 | theorbtwo | Hm, I wouldn't have thought it'd have all that much overhead. |
| 01:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | You leave the water. You get the debuff. You fight a bunch of critters. Every single spell, the game has to think about your stats debuff. Overhead. |
| 01:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Does the water in the Swamp of Sorrows count for it? Does the shallow water in Zangermarsh count? If so, why and how much? If not, why not? Where is the division, how is that programmed? |
| 01:33.36 | theorbtwo | I expect your new stats are only computed when you gain or loose a buff. |
| 01:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | Does it count if you're mounted? |
| 01:33.55 | Jerub | what about droods? |
| 01:33.59 | bleeter | Adys: ooh, is SwapLayerBuffers being used in Live? |
| 01:34.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just saying... there is less 'expensive' flavor that can be added. |
| 01:34.02 | Jerub | with aquatic form. |
| 01:34.05 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, do you get the debuff if you're a fish? |
| 01:34.09 | bleeter | Adys: can't seem to see it in your trace there |
| 01:34.19 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Exactly the same rules as breathing -- if it will cause your breath meter to start, then you get the debuff. |
| 01:34.23 | Adys | trace:opengl:wglSwapLayerBuffers (0x3d8, 00000001) |
| 01:34.23 | Adys | trace:opengl:wine_glMatrixMode (5889) |
| 01:34.31 | Adys | thats live |
| 01:34.34 | bleeter | heh, must've spelt the search wrong :/ |
| 01:34.40 | theorbtwo | (I suppose it technically is a debuff, since you can't drop it at will.) |
| 01:35.16 | theorbtwo | I have no idea how it'd interact with druid forms, I don't know any druidic lore. |
| 01:35.21 | Dashkal | notes the annoying "Recruit" "buff" that cannot be cleared if you accidently fly over wintergrasp in a battle |
| 01:35.24 | Seerah | People of Walmart made the Yahoo front page news: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090901/us_time/08599191940100 |
| 01:35.59 | Adys | Error establishing a database connection |
| 01:36.03 | Adys | http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/ |
| 01:36.16 | Adys | adds Yahoo to the wikipedia Slashdot Effect page |
| 01:36.18 | kd3 | whee slashdotted |
| 01:36.20 | kd3 | lol |
| 01:37.10 | Lopeppeppy | If you have to say you have no idea, it's probably going to just a bit too complex to be installed for the sake of "flavor", especially considering the steps being taken to simplify the game of late. |
| 01:39.05 | Adys | http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/todays-gmail-problems.html |
| 01:39.09 | Adys | "Links to this post" = lol |
| 01:39.37 | Jerub | problem with modern news media #1: they don't know how to link to the goddamn websites they're talking about. |
| 01:40.20 | Arrowmaster | you mean how every link uses a redirector to track clicks? |
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| 01:40.32 | bleeter | Adys: ah well I commented on the bug... might go do something interesting for a bit ;) |
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| 01:55.15 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I have a coworker with the exact same problem actually, but his got bowbed up even earlier. He made a GOogle account before they had Gmail |
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| 02:15.55 | Ackis | any recommendations for a program which will auto-backup my docs, and e-mail folders? |
| 02:19.06 | bleeter | resists smartass response of 'cron, ssh, whichever compression program takes yer fancy' :P |
| 02:19.40 | Ackis | :P |
| 02:19.53 | Ackis | those work on a *nix box |
| 02:20.16 | bleeter | if you've got a *nix box on your local network, you can do them via samba |
| 02:20.17 | airtonix | scheduled Tasks, ssh, zip? |
| 02:21.00 | bleeter | Ackis: comes down to the system/s your going from<>to, I think |
| 02:21.15 | Ackis | vista to a network shared drive |
| 02:21.30 | bleeter | oh, vista |
| 02:21.32 | bleeter | hides |
| 02:21.33 | bleeter | :P |
| 02:21.53 | Ackis | everything I've tried sucks ass |
| 02:21.53 | airtonix | you can;t hide from mountains |
| 02:22.00 | Torhal | Ackis: I think people usually, at this point in time, simply /wrists |
| 02:23.10 | Ackis | my steam folder is 250 gigs O_o |
| 02:23.33 | airtonix | why |
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| 02:23.47 | bleeter | i didn't think steam did pron |
| 02:23.55 | Torhal | bit-porn |
| 02:23.56 | Ackis | I has 174 steam games |
| 02:24.01 | Zhinjio | <3 steam |
| 02:24.02 | airtonix | why |
| 02:24.29 | Dagmar | He hasn't realized yet that you can uninstall the games you're not playing, and it'll merrily redownload them later |
| 02:24.39 | Ackis | you can? :P |
| 02:24.59 | Ackis | I just failed and bought the fallout pack thinking it had fallout 3 in it |
| 02:25.03 | Dagmar | I know that when HL2:EP3 comes out (if it comes out) I can just buy it on Steam, and it'll download and reinstall as much of HL2 as necessary |
| 02:25.18 | Dagmar | It's what happened when I bought EP1 & EP2 |
| 02:25.29 | Zhinjio | steam is like gaming crack. |
| 02:25.32 | Dagmar | I was rummaging around lkooking for my HL2 DVD when I noticed it was just downlaoding the whole bloody thing |
| 02:25.44 | Dagmar | They do online video game sales *right* |
| 02:25.45 | Zhinjio | but you still haven't beat me on defense grid, ackis. |
| 02:25.46 | Zhinjio | so nyeah. |
| 02:26.07 | bleeter | all steam content is unmetered from my ISP... <3 steam |
| 02:26.08 | Ackis | Zhinjio: the ones I've done have higher scores ;) |
| 02:26.21 | bleeter | all wow patches are unmetered from my ISP.... <3 Internode |
| 02:26.25 | Zhinjio | feh |
| 02:26.34 | Zhinjio | I found one that you beat me on that I haven't figured out yet |
| 02:26.39 | Zhinjio | the rest is just a matter of time. |
| 02:26.42 | airtonix | unmetered means nothing to americans....extra extra extra large |
| 02:26.43 | Ackis | lol |
| 02:27.02 | Ackis | anyone want to buy me a copy of fallout 3 on steam and I'll send you a legit copy on disk? |
| 02:27.37 | airtonix | his steamID is 555-airtonix. |
| 02:27.54 | Ackis | :P |
| 02:28.01 | Dagmar | Ackis: I don't think you have to do that |
| 02:28.08 | Dagmar | I think you can just transfer the licence, but I'm not sure |
| 02:28.19 | Ackis | nah you can't |
| 02:28.24 | Dagmar | I know I wound up with some bit of HL2 being owned by me twice with that bundle deal |
| 02:28.34 | Dagmar | It's STILL nagging me about giving it to someone else |
| 02:28.42 | bleeter | airtonix: metered will mean even less when I get my 100mbps next year :D |
| 02:28.45 | Zhinjio | yeah, I ended up gifting it to someone |
| 02:28.54 | Ackis | Dagmar: really? all the stuff I get doubled up on they just ignore me:( |
| 02:29.10 | Dagmar | Weird |
| 02:29.40 | airtonix | bleeter,??? |
| 02:30.12 | bleeter | airtonix: australia's going all fibre to the home over the next five years, my hometown's in the first year rollout |
| 02:30.25 | airtonix | bleeter, links to this rollout plan please |
| 02:30.27 | bleeter | airtonix: the fibre's outside right now, just waiting on infrastructure |
| 02:30.54 | kd3 | still cries at the state of broadband out in the boondocks |
| 02:30.57 | bleeter | airtonix: it's not what you know... :P |
| 02:31.10 | airtonix | you're lying |
| 02:31.17 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:32.10 | airtonix | google desktop gadgets or ... plasmoids? |
| 02:32.31 | bleeter | airtonix: adl2 lol :P |
| 02:32.43 | bleeter | airtonix: get yerself on hba1! :P |
| 02:34.17 | Kraps | 7:29pm - All realms are now up and available for play. |
| 02:34.55 | bleeter | airtonix: http://www.digitaltasmania.org/uploads/maps/NBN_Initial_Rollout_Tasmania.jpg |
| 02:35.12 | Kraps | TIME FOR A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19675917694&sid=1 |
| 02:36.33 | kd3 | don't we get one of those every tuesday? |
| 02:36.36 | Dagmar | That thread is a perfect example of why China has a good thing going |
| 02:36.52 | Dagmar | If the US had a "one child" policy, many of those idiots woudln't be around to post at all |
| 02:38.03 | airtonix | i'm surprised blizzard still hasn't after five years implemented character syncing |
| 02:38.31 | airtonix | i cbf leveling alts but i want to run sunken temple at the level it was designed |
| 02:38.41 | bleeter | Kraps: you missed the one earlier in the GM forum :P |
| 02:39.00 | Kraps | bleeter: what do you mean? |
| 02:39.18 | bleeter | Kraps: class action demand thread earlier today in GM forum |
| 02:40.44 | Dagmar | Just think... 100 replies in that thread means probably at least 150 usable eyes and lungs, probably at least 80 hearts, 120 or so kidneys, maybe 85 livers that could be helping other, more useful people stay alive |
| 02:41.11 | bleeter | not a single hand, though\ |
| 02:41.18 | Arrowmaster | so suggested way of getting steam to work in wine? no scrollbars and font looks like ass |
| 02:41.43 | kd3 | there are issues with steam in wine? |
| 02:41.48 | kd3 | pops a new wineserver instance |
| 02:41.56 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554 |
| 02:42.17 | Arrowmaster | yes i know |
| 02:42.22 | Arrowmaster | but whats recommended? |
| 02:43.00 | kd3 | scroll down, "Enabling Flash and Scrollbars:" |
| 02:43.44 | Kraps | a QUEUE? on MY SERVER?! |
| 02:44.19 | Arrowmaster | the font in the friends list still looks like ass though, i dont think that has anything to do with flash |
| 02:45.11 | Arrowmaster | wow 194MB for this flash9 archive |
| 02:45.51 | Arrowmaster | and fuck you too roadrunner |
| 02:46.14 | Arrowmaster | i was getting 1.40MB/s until around 40MB in |
| 02:46.55 | Arrowmaster | now half that, stupid fucking bandwidth shaping |
| 02:47.41 | Arrowmaster | im close to writing a program to force connections to close and reopen so i can abuse their traffic shaping |
| 02:48.46 | Kraps | http://mashable.com/2009/09/01/gmail-outage-google-statement/ |
| 02:50.42 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: won't a download manager with multiple connections do that? |
| 02:51.10 | Arrowmaster | doubt it if it uses pipelining |
| 02:51.31 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: the download managers i'm thinking of are the type that open 10 connections to download a single file. |
| 02:51.35 | Arrowmaster | damn i guess debian doesnt include that flash patch in their wine debs |
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| 02:55.18 | Kraps | oh btw a class action is weak, lets call the FTC! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19675787736&sid=1 |
| 02:56.31 | Dagmar | I like the http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3673/5908.jpg |
| 02:57.11 | Kraps | yeah |
| 03:04.40 | wobin | Kraps: I like google's response |
| 03:04.56 | wobin | (not that I noticed any changes, since I access via imap anyway =P) |
| 03:05.04 | Jerub | i know someone who used to be a site reliability engineer at google. |
| 03:05.29 | Jerub | and in their performance reviews they literally sat down and said, "okay, so because of mistakes you made, google lost $X million." |
| 03:05.49 | Jerub | and they did it in weekly meetings too, you had to stand up and explain what mistake cost how much and how you were working on fixing it. |
| 03:06.01 | wobin | ow >< |
| 03:06.24 | Jerub | it was supposed to be a positive "lets get this right and not get down on people for being responsible for individual failures. |
| 03:06.35 | Jerub | but she found the envrionment too oppressive because it wasn't handled properly. |
| 03:06.42 | wobin | Kraps: also, the mashable site's usage of 'smilies' next to business names makes the whole thing surreal |
| 03:06.54 | Kraps | hehe |
| 03:07.05 | wobin | Jerub: It's a particularly -negative- approach to pointing out mistakes =P |
| 03:07.22 | wobin | I'm not sure how you could spin it positive, but you could at least try for neutral =P |
| 03:07.59 | Jerub | wobin: When it's explained properly it can be neutral/positive, but when her team did it it was negative. |
| 03:08.23 | wobin | "...Gmail (zomg HAPPY!) went down earlier today and inconvenienced a majority of Gmail (zomg SMILE!!) users for an extended period of time..." |
| 03:09.01 | Dagmar | Yes, because without email for 100 minutes, the world ENDS. |
| 03:09.28 | wobin | well, there's a difference between "My mails may take some time to get to me" and "zomg THEY LOST ALL MY MAIL" |
| 03:09.38 | wobin | which you don't know which happens til you get more news... |
| 03:10.06 | Jerub | well, you could email someone to ask for more details. |
| 03:10.15 | Dagmar | Whose mail did they lose? |
| 03:10.25 | Dagmar | ...because from where I sit, both of those statements are jacked up |
| 03:10.55 | wobin | no mail lost |
| 03:11.03 | wobin | just web connectivity to the mail interface |
| 03:11.08 | Dagmar | ...and strangely, pop and imap were not affected. |
| 03:11.18 | Dagmar | Wlel, not strangely. |
| 03:11.21 | wobin | which is why I never noticed a downtime =) |
| 03:11.50 | Codayus | I didn't notice a downtime either, and I use the web interface. I assume I was asleep at the time. |
| 03:12.32 | Codayus | Now if only WoW downtime could be so considerately scheduled... |
| 03:12.32 | wobin | I like the fact they were up front about the situation, what went wrong and their resolution. |
| 03:12.42 | wobin | Codayus: grr |
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| 03:13.00 | wobin | Codayus: normal downtime for us is in our primetime play time |
| 03:13.42 | wobin | don't you talk to me about considerately scheduled downtime =P Non-Oceaniaiacs got it good =P |
| 03:13.54 | kd3 | maybe I'm thinking doing argent crusade dailies right after the server comes back up is not a good idea |
| 03:14.17 | wobin | kd3: it's a sign of near burnout =P |
| 03:15.20 | Jerub | fucking oceanic downtime |
| 03:15.27 | Jerub | "yeah, 7pm tuesday sounds great!" |
| 03:15.40 | Jerub | after you figure out what the heck 2am PST is in your timezone AGAIN. |
| 03:15.54 | Jerub | god, it feels like wow-us is written for californians only. |
| 03:16.19 | kd3 | non-idiots (read: people who don't post on general can handle the timezone difference) |
| 03:16.36 | Codayus | wobin: I *AM* an oceanic, which is why I was complaining about WoW downtime. |
| 03:16.59 | kd3 | non-americans I understand... people living in the lower-48 should be able to handle basic math |
| 03:17.00 | Codayus | Since I'm in NZ, it hits at 10pm or so, so it could be worse, but still... |
| 03:17.04 | Jerub | kd3: the timezone difference would be easier to handle if it didn't randomly involve DST and dates. |
| 03:17.43 | Codayus | Should switch to midnight in a while when DST flips over on both ends. I think. DST confuses me. :-( |
| 03:17.55 | Jerub | i've resorted to having california on my world clock. |
| 03:18.31 | Jerub | i mean, how hard would it be to integrate something into the client that says, "in 3 hours" instead of "3am wednesday PST" |
| 03:18.45 | Codayus | A /downtime command would be nice. |
| 03:19.04 | Codayus | Spits out time to next scheduled downtime, with an estimate of duration. |
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| 03:19.46 | Jerub | yeah |
| 03:20.02 | Jerub | because at the moment you've gotta remember that dodgy text url, or logout/login to see the message |
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| 03:34.43 | kd3 | grr... all this downtime and they didn't even fix the damn instance servers? |
| 03:35.33 | wobin | Jerub: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/timer.pl |
| 03:35.38 | wobin | I have that bookmarked |
| 03:36.30 | Jerub | kd3: what's wrong with the instance servers? |
| 03:36.38 | Jerub | wobin: okay, that's great. |
| 03:36.40 | Jerub | which one is WoW time? |
| 03:36.52 | Jerub | oh, right, the 5th one. |
| 03:36.53 | Jerub | thanks :) |
| 03:36.57 | wobin | a /downtime command would be terrible from Blizzard's point of view, cause it reinforces that downtimes are -expected- and an integral part of the game =P |
| 03:37.16 | Jerub | wobin: downtimes reinforces that downtimes are -expected- and an integral part of the game |
| 03:37.39 | wobin | but we still maintain the illusion that ... One Day.. ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE.... |
| 03:38.14 | wobin | if they don't directly refer to downtimes ingame except on a case by case basis =) |
| 03:40.03 | Jerub | i.e. only daily or more |
| 03:40.04 | Jerub | ;) |
| 03:41.20 | Jerub | so is it true that there are no servers physically in oceania? |
| 03:41.51 | Dagmar | If they hung the servers there, the data would fall out the top |
| 03:42.09 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
| 03:44.53 | ScytheBlade1 | hm |
| 03:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | that page should probably be renamed to NA instead of US |
| 03:45.15 | ScytheBlade1 | As it covers mexico, canada, the US, and technically the aussies |
| 03:45.19 | kd3 | probably |
| 03:45.22 | bleeter | and singapore |
| 03:45.25 | bleeter | and newzealand |
| 03:45.32 | bleeter | and... that other country they service out of US |
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| 03:46.28 | Jerub | bleeter: what, tasmania? |
| 03:46.46 | bleeter | :P |
| 03:47.50 | Dagmar | It doesn't mean "US" it means "Us" in all-caps. |
| 03:48.39 | Jerub | don't worry, we non-americans have been used to the americans thinking "the internet" == "america" for so many yeras, we're used to it ;) |
| 03:48.53 | Arrowmaster | heh i cant install any steam games because i didnt install steam into the C drive in wine, so its reading the size of / instead of the directory its installed to |
| 03:49.02 | tem | lol @ killing people via path of frost after anub wipes |
| 03:49.16 | kd3 | splat |
| 03:49.48 | kd3 | the new and improved elevator boss? |
| 03:50.30 | Codayus | WAR has actual oceanic servers, because they do not hate their customers. |
| 03:50.33 | Codayus | WoW does not. |
| 03:50.40 | wobin | this ^ |
| 03:51.05 | Dagmar | it's a shame they have weak gameplay |
| 03:51.15 | wobin | this ^ |
| 03:51.17 | Codayus | Yes |
| 03:52.01 | wobin | The most entertaining bit of WAR was the goblin spell names |
| 03:52.28 | wobin | The PVP was pretty well done |
| 03:52.33 | Dagmar | I was rather unamused with the selection of attacks |
| 03:52.44 | Dagmar | A nasty look, and a frelling RAINBOW? |
| 03:52.47 | wobin | and the group quests |
| 03:52.55 | wobin | Dagmar: Haha. High Elf =P |
| 03:52.56 | Dagmar | The group quests were nice |
| 03:53.14 | Codayus | Yeah, the group quests/public quests was good. Their BG equivalent was actually fun. |
| 03:53.19 | Dagmar | wobin: Yeah, I was like "Wait.. I shoot *rainbows* at people? Do I get to ride a unicorn or a teddy bear next?" |
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| 03:54.10 | Dagmar | The heal-with-one-hand-kill-with-the-other mechanic was neat |
| 03:54.49 | kd3 | "I'll beat the living crap back in to you!" ? |
| 03:55.06 | Dagmar | well, there was this amplifier thing they did with the high elves |
| 03:55.20 | Dagmar | As you cast healing spells, you'd accumulate a buff that would make your next damaging spells more powerful |
| 03:55.29 | Dagmar | ...and as you damaged, you'd accumulate a +heal buff. |
| 03:55.55 | Codayus | It was a great mechanic. |
| 03:55.56 | Dagmar | So high elven wizards basically ran into battle with two targets... A friendly to heal, and "whoever gets close" to nuke to the floor |
| 03:56.08 | Dagmar | It worked really well |
| 03:56.16 | wobin | I liked the firewizard/warlock mechanic |
| 03:56.19 | Codayus | Actually, WAR had a lot of good mechanics. |
| 03:56.32 | Codayus | Which helps explain why WoW is stealing several of them. :-) |
| 03:56.36 | wobin | where your damage multiplier got higher and higher til it killed you with feedback =) |
| 03:56.39 | Dagmar | I was disappointed that fire mages didn't occasionally just blow up |
| 03:56.44 | wobin | oh we totally did |
| 03:56.49 | Dagmar | I'm fine with WoW stealing them |
| 03:56.52 | Dagmar | They're good |
| 03:56.55 | wobin | indeed |
| 03:57.01 | Codayus | Yeah. |
| 03:57.19 | wobin | some of the engineer stuff would be cool for pvp wow |
| 03:57.22 | Dagmar | If you're a more tactical player, that wizard thing was tits |
| 03:57.25 | wobin | although horrifically unbalanced =) |
| 03:57.38 | Dagmar | God Engineers were the squishiest armor wearers I've seen |
| 03:57.56 | wobin | can you imagine that gravity bomb equivalent in a BG? |
| 03:58.00 | Dagmar | I didn't get very far with the engineer stuff |
| 03:58.09 | airtonix | so in summary warhammer proved that blizzard just hates australia? |
| 03:58.10 | wobin | yeah, I got annoyed quite fast |
| 03:58.10 | Dagmar | wobin: Oh I can. :) |
| 03:58.21 | wobin | airtonix: yep =) |
| 03:58.22 | Codayus | airtonix: Oh, that's always been pretty clear. |
| 03:58.27 | airtonix | same with ncsoft |
| 03:58.35 | wobin | WAR just reinforced the idea |
| 03:58.42 | airtonix | guess where aion servers will be |
| 03:58.51 | Codayus | I think Bliz once mumbled something about australian data centers being expensive. |
| 03:58.52 | airtonix | (its worse than wow servers) |
| 03:58.59 | wobin | pft, like -they- can't afford them |
| 03:59.02 | Codayus | I believe that qualifies as "adding insult to injury" |
| 03:59.16 | wobin | "Salt in the wounds"? |
| 03:59.42 | airtonix | all of the aion server will be in washington dc. all 6 of them |
| 03:59.58 | airtonix | lol@oceanic players |
| 03:59.59 | wobin | They're clearly gearing up for a worldwide release =P |
| 04:00.18 | airtonix | eroupe has its own set in europe |
| 04:00.19 | Codayus | airtonix: Heh, I tried the aion beta. ZOMG INCREDIBLE LAG |
| 04:00.33 | wobin | pft, zomg incredible lag BUT YOU'RE FLYING |
| 04:00.34 | Codayus | As in, I died repeatedly to things before I could attack them. |
| 04:00.35 | tem | sigh @ it only taking 2 pulls to learn anub |
| 04:00.48 | wobin | tem: AN? |
| 04:00.58 | airtonix | but hey figure this : ping from $> results in 800ms to cn-aion but in game /ping results in 400ms |
| 04:01.25 | tem | wobin, AN was just a setback |
| 04:01.34 | tem | s/just/merely/ |
| 04:01.43 | tem | I meant 25 man ToC anub |
| 04:02.22 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 04:02.26 | airtonix | something something something ???? |
| 04:02.28 | Dagmar | Much more respectable |
| 04:02.48 | wobin | tem: I was wondering where the PathOfFrost griefing came in =) |
| 04:03.19 | wobin | airtonix: 400ms? |
| 04:03.26 | airtonix | lol not can deathknights train mobs with their pets they can also fubar you up with path of frost |
| 04:03.26 | wobin | That's my standard ping |
| 04:03.42 | wobin | only if they're in your group |
| 04:03.54 | wobin | if so, you deserve it for inviting them =) |
| 04:04.02 | airtonix | wobin, my point was that despite cli ping showing 800ms, the ingame chat command for cn-aion shows me at 400ms yet it really feels like 200ms |
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| 04:04.39 | airtonix | wobin, yet, ping to the washington-dc aion servers shows me at 270ms and in game i have no idea yet, but it feels like 1000ms |
| 04:04.41 | wobin | still. 800 is workable, 400 is pretty good |
| 04:04.52 | wobin | I'm happy when I hit 350 |
| 04:04.57 | airtonix | wobin, yeah i lived with 220ms in wow for a long time |
| 04:05.09 | wobin | It just makes you a better player =P |
| 04:05.25 | airtonix | crystal balls |
| 04:05.26 | Dagmar | I doubt that |
| 04:05.27 | wobin | Cause if I can outheal an american in a raid, I know I'm doing alright =) |
| 04:05.27 | airtonix | i has them |
| 04:05.45 | wobin | cause you train to anticipate more than react |
| 04:06.07 | airtonix | healing meters mean nothing |
| 04:06.56 | wobin | airtonix: effective healing? |
| 04:07.01 | airtonix | nope |
| 04:07.03 | airtonix | nada |
| 04:07.08 | airtonix | none of it means anything |
| 04:07.21 | wobin | oh, we've moved into nihilism |
| 04:07.25 | Dagmar | What matters is whether or not everyone lives |
| 04:07.30 | airtonix | ^^ |
| 04:07.34 | Dagmar | ...and sometimes, whether or not they let the right people die |
| 04:07.42 | Yssaril | is there anyway to anchor a frame to the cursor? |
| 04:07.42 | wobin | we have a phrase in our raid |
| 04:07.47 | wobin | "Well... nobody important died..." |
| 04:08.04 | wobin | Yssaril: yes =( I've had it happen accidentally a lot of times =P |
| 04:08.18 | wobin | especially if you don't hook the stopmoving properly |
| 04:08.41 | Yssaril | wobin: yea i know about that but i want it somewhat permanantly |
| 04:08.42 | wobin | Yssaril: look at something like RangeFinder to see how they stick a range frame on the cursor |
| 04:08.50 | wobin | (I think that's what it's called) |
| 04:08.58 | airtonix | setpoint ? |
| 04:09.17 | Yssaril | airtonix: set point in refernace to what though :P |
| 04:09.22 | airtonix | cursor |
| 04:09.33 | airtonix | there is a limitation to it though |
| 04:09.48 | airtonix | i think you can choose where on the object -> cursor you want to anchor it |
| 04:09.52 | airtonix | can't* |
| 04:11.43 | Yssaril | airtonix: yea thats for tooltips though and doesnt help much |
| 04:11.56 | airtonix | same concept |
| 04:12.09 | airtonix | binding anything to the cursor is limited |
| 04:13.22 | Yssaril | hmm may have to resort to repositioning it via onupdate |
| 04:15.40 | Torhal | Yssaril: You will, and you'll have to keep doing so based on screen dimensions. |
| 04:16.02 | Yssaril | should be simple enough i think |
| 04:16.28 | airtonix | apparently aion devs say they will be creating an addon api |
| 04:16.34 | airtonix | \o/ |
| 04:17.17 | airtonix | parent group of wowinterface is mmoui? |
| 04:18.21 | Yssaril | whats the difference between GetEffectiveScale and GetScale? |
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| 04:24.26 | tem | Yssaril, GetEffectiveScale is effectively return self:GetScale() * (parent and parent:GetEffectiveScale() or 1) |
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| 04:25.25 | Yssaril | ahh so if something has a scale of 1/2 and its parent is 1/2 then effective scale returns 1/4? |
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| 04:30.33 | tem | yes |
| 04:33.23 | Torhal | Yssaril: You'll have to get the x,y with GetCursorPosition(), the effectivescale via yourframe:GetEffectiveScale(), then SetPoint() with x/effscale and y/effscale |
| 04:33.58 | Yssaril | Torhal: yea already got it working but its wasnt quite wat i was lookign for (and figured out an easier solution) |
| 04:34.05 | Torhal | Oh? |
| 04:34.46 | Yssaril | am trying to make a window dynamicaly scalable instead of resizable when dragging the lower right corner |
| 04:35.19 | Torhal | Oh! And you want the mouse to stay on the corner |
| 04:35.58 | Yssaril | naw no need for that just need a way to track the mouseup event at the end of the drag |
| 04:37.50 | Yssaril | woot the simple method works like a charm |
| 04:38.13 | Torhal | Good deal |
| 04:38.58 | cogwheel | is tripping out on virtual XP mode |
| 04:39.22 | Yssaril | put a hidden frame over the button that starts the drag OnMouseDown resize that frame to fit UIParent and OnMouseUp put it back over the resizer |
| 04:40.16 | Torhal | Heh |
| 04:51.38 | Jerub | is there a good gear selection tool that's not rawr? rawr doesn't run under wine/mono for me. |
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| 05:07.19 | Yssaril | lua sqrt(2) |
| 05:07.24 | Yssaril | lua> sqrt(2) |
| 05:07.25 | lua_bot | Yssaril: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'sqrt' (a nil value) |
| 05:07.38 | Yssaril | lua> math.sqrt(2) |
| 05:07.39 | lua_bot | Yssaril: 1.4142135623731 |
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| 05:10.22 | DWSR | Is there a cap on resilience? |
| 05:11.57 | ScytheBlade1 | There are caps on aspects of it |
| 05:12.12 | DWSR | What's the soft cap? |
| 05:12.12 | ScytheBlade1 | wowwiki would be your best answer |
| 05:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | it depends on what aspect you're talking about |
| 05:12.47 | DWSR | wowwiki isn't updated for 3.2 |
| 05:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Resilience is a character attribute that reduces the chance to receive critical strikes or spell critical strikes, reduces the effect of mana drain spells, reduces the damage taken from critical strikes and spell critical strikes, and reduces the damage taken from damage over time effects. |
| 05:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Most all of those have different caps, iirc |
| 05:13.45 | DWSR | yeah, but what's the soft cap? Still 1414? |
| 05:16.32 | Fisker | tsk tsk |
| 05:16.36 | Fisker | blizzard LIED to us |
| 05:20.58 | Jerub | my guild hasn't even done toc 10 man yet :( |
| 05:27.11 | Fisker | lua> math.sqrt(-1) |
| 05:27.11 | lua_bot | Fisker: nan |
| 05:29.03 | Arrowmaster | heh my cable just went down for 5 minutes and i didnt get disconnected from irc |
| 05:30.07 | Arrowmaster | well actually i got disconnected from the other two networks im on but not freenode |
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| 05:31.31 | Fisker | wow that's amazing |
| 05:31.36 | Fisker | you should write a book on it |
| 05:33.27 | Arrowmaster | just weird because i didnt even notice my cable was down for a few minutes since i had a freenode channel selected behind the webpage i was reading |
| 05:34.11 | Yssaril | whats a decent default for a minimum scale? |
| 05:35.15 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:35.20 | Fisker | but Arrowmaster |
| 05:35.24 | Fisker | i was trolling |
| 05:35.36 | Arrowmaster | when arent you trolling? |
| 05:37.31 | Thunder_Child | once Arrowmaster he wasnt trolling. |
| 05:37.36 | Thunder_Child | one moment in time |
| 05:37.58 | Fisker | some of us refers to it as the "Big Bang" |
| 05:38.28 | Thunder_Child | and osme of us prefer not to like |
| 05:38.31 | Thunder_Child | lie* |
| 05:38.37 | airtonix | !wiki trout |
| 05:38.44 | airtonix | i no see fisker? |
| 05:38.46 | Thunder_Child | try ~ |
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| 05:41.34 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:45.08 | airtonix | hai gaiz its 929 |
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| 06:28.04 | Adys | is it possible to get the GUID of the person who sent you a mail? |
| 06:31.57 | haste | ~wowalert |
| 06:31.58 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 06:55.06 | NightHawkTheSane | "the dude abides" |
| 06:55.41 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:55.43 | Fisker | THEY LIED TO US |
| 06:56.07 | haste | lies |
| 06:56.21 | Fisker | nahuh |
| 06:56.39 | wobin | hehe, one of my friends just sent me an email from work... |
| 06:56.43 | wobin | OMG BEST CUSTOMER NAME EVER...PHANNY KUM |
| 07:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | night. |
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| 07:21.53 | haste | Fisker: I need something to do! |
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| 07:27.46 | Adys | haste: unzip my pants |
| 07:29.57 | haste | Adys: but it's compressed with lzma :( |
| 07:31.33 | tlund | Mikk: looking at the curse page for gridstatusafk, perhaps a new release WOULD be in order? |
| 07:31.41 | tlund | Mikk: and some updates to the page :) |
| 07:32.20 | Adys | haste: TRY IT ANYWAY |
| 07:34.50 | haste | oh shi-! think I just corrupted your zipper Adys ! |
| 07:34.59 | Adys | buy me another one |
| 07:35.19 | haste | neh |
| 07:37.39 | Mikk | tlund: umm a new release was pushed a couple of hours ago |
| 07:37.45 | Mikk | tlund: my last change didnt change anything :P |
| 07:39.15 | Fisker | hmm |
| 07:39.20 | Fisker | IT'S A MIRACLE |
| 07:39.25 | Fisker | i had a dead pixel |
| 07:39.28 | Fisker | and it's gone now |
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| 07:43.58 | haste | revives it. |
| 07:44.26 | Fisker | i love you hastemen |
| 07:44.34 | Fisker | though moreso if you would play on Ravencrest again :( |
| 07:48.55 | haste | Fisker: they removed pedobear bawww |
| 07:49.05 | wsoul | which addon that is mandatory for healers btw, i cannot tell what it is to be honest |
| 07:49.24 | haste | wsoul: <insert any raid frames> |
| 07:49.27 | wsoul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaNsnzSxlL8 |
| 07:49.34 | wsoul | that one for instance |
| 07:49.35 | tekkub | no addon is mandatory :P |
| 07:49.39 | wsoul | hehehe |
| 07:49.46 | haste | exactly |
| 07:49.51 | wsoul | tekkub: i used ot play with no addons at all... |
| 07:49.53 | Thunder_Child | waa http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/wacky-candy/c399/?cpg=101H |
| 07:49.53 | haste | and my answer is still correct! |
| 07:50.14 | tekkub | I didn't say no addons |
| 07:50.23 | tekkub | I just said none are mandatory |
| 07:50.35 | wsoul | my friend long ago told me "you'll find out blizzard's default UI suck" it's true once you find the eyecandy ones i.e. sexymap, EBB |
| 07:50.39 | tekkub | but you're nuts to heal without clique and a good raidframe |
| 07:50.55 | wsoul | you seen that vid i posted, i cannot tell what addon |
| 07:50.59 | tekkub | eyecandy is a waste of resources :P |
| 07:51.05 | wsoul | :P |
| 07:51.08 | Fisker | pedeobear haste ? |
| 07:51.12 | tekkub | it's a raid addon :P |
| 07:51.20 | tekkub | *raidframe |
| 07:51.20 | Fisker | pedobear* |
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| 07:51.38 | haste | Fisker: http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/tw/worldwide/miley-cyrus-fans he was second |
| 07:51.40 | tekkub | throw a gnome and you'll hit a dozen grid-esque raidframes |
| 07:52.29 | wsoul | sRaidFrame? will check it when i get jhome |
| 07:52.31 | wsoul | home* |
| 07:52.39 | haste | I personally hate both EBB and SexyMap |
| 07:52.41 | haste | do I get a prize? |
| 07:52.45 | haste | I also play a priest. |
| 07:52.45 | wsoul | why? |
| 07:52.52 | Fisker | why would miley cyrus be on that list? |
| 07:52.58 | haste | god knows |
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| 07:53.05 | wsoul | DK here tank/DPS leaning toward dpsing lately |
| 07:53.09 | tekkub | priests are fun! |
| 07:53.20 | tekkub | unless you're one of the shitty races |
| 07:53.23 | wsoul | one priest failed at MC in naxx25 |
| 07:53.27 | tekkub | but that's not a class issue anyway |
| 07:53.39 | Fisker | it's failboat haste |
| 07:53.50 | tekkub | I play stupid to get out of MC in naxx |
| 07:53.51 | haste | sorry tekkub, but I _only_ play undead/human :p |
| 07:54.02 | tekkub | ah yes, there's your problem there |
| 07:54.04 | haste | oh and tauren |
| 07:54.11 | haste | but he's still L60 |
| 07:54.12 | olafski | priest race matters? :o |
| 07:54.14 | wsoul | tekkub: need one good trinket beside greatness now ;) so grim toll would be sweet |
| 07:54.18 | tekkub | granted there isn't a good horde priest race yet |
| 07:54.41 | wsoul | hmmm that's interesting |
| 07:54.51 | haste | mind controling in naxx25 is easy tho' :D |
| 07:54.54 | wsoul | my priest is a blood elf have to level him up sometime |
| 07:55.06 | wsoul | yeah but if you play with braindead priest you'll get wiped |
| 07:55.13 | wsoul | 4 times and had to change wings |
| 07:55.17 | wsoul | got to it later |
| 07:55.30 | haste | that's why you always check the other priest before going |
| 07:55.33 | tekkub | yea see, I'm sorry, I'm a healer not a tank :P |
| 07:55.39 | wsoul | :P |
| 07:55.42 | tekkub | I'm not at all interested in MCing |
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| 07:55.51 | wsoul | i will go to toc without the guild as a dps |
| 07:55.53 | tekkub | there's a REASON I'm not a tank |
| 07:56.03 | wsoul | guild cannot kill ignis |
| 07:56.04 | olafski | tekkub: love that sentiment :) |
| 07:56.09 | wsoul | Tank is fun ;) |
| 07:56.10 | haste | I would avoid it as much as posible myself, but we usually only have two priests in naxx25 |
| 07:56.16 | wsoul | especially when you switch for dps to tank |
| 07:56.29 | wsoul | now since i will get greatness by sunday will dps again |
| 07:56.43 | haste | DKs are papertanks now! |
| 07:56.44 | olafski | tanking is fun but it would be nice to have all encounters play like the role you chose to play :< |
| 07:56.50 | wsoul | haste: lies |
| 07:57.18 | Mikk | tanking is great. you can make shit groups win. |
| 07:57.21 | wsoul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 07:57.28 | wsoul | my dps gear |
| 07:57.34 | wsoul | not too shabby... |
| 07:57.45 | olafski | having a not-shit healer helps though mikk :) |
| 07:57.52 | wsoul | will replace mirror of truth with greatness :D |
| 07:58.01 | Arrowmaster | my guild used to make me fucking tank everything, so much fucking wasted bagspace between tanking gear and soulshards |
| 07:58.17 | Mikk | double runeshaper pulls in HoL and cc isn't happening, dps sucks, and healing is mediocre? fine. aoe stun them when first starts spinning. then concblow one. interrupt the other when it starts spinning. |
| 07:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone around that can recommend a good 3rd party firmware for a linksys wrt54g? |
| 07:58.25 | haste | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Grim+Batol&n=Yaranaika *rawr* |
| 07:58.28 | wsoul | Arrowmaster: here is something you wont hear everyday |
| 07:58.30 | haste | tekkub: ^ google that name, I dare you |
| 07:59.01 | wsoul | Arrowmaster: i have 3 22 slots bags now, tanking gear/dpsing and pvp... sold my tanking shoulder accidentally because had full slots |
| 07:59.02 | Mikk | orc porn? |
| 07:59.18 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: tomato |
| 07:59.25 | Mikk | wsoul: you need the ubersquire for bank access anywhere :P |
| 07:59.38 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: needs a 4mb model though |
| 07:59.40 | tekkub | haste: yea so? |
| 07:59.44 | wsoul | never heard of it to be honest... let me check |
| 07:59.44 | tekkub | not even fuzzy |
| 07:59.49 | haste | tekkub: baww |
| 07:59.50 | wsoul | Mikk: is something that eng can make? |
| 08:00.26 | olafski | ubersquire is from argent tournament |
| 08:00.27 | Mikk | Kuso Miso technique! |
| 08:00.35 | olafski | you can buy it for like 100 champions seals |
| 08:00.37 | Mikk | 150 |
| 08:00.40 | _rane | haste: interesting plot :) |
| 08:00.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: bleh, brain is not working tonight, how do i tell if i have a model with enough space? |
| 08:01.04 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: its just a plain 'wrt54g' |
| 08:01.07 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 08:01.11 | haste | _rane: indeed |
| 08:01.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah |
| 08:01.26 | NightHawkTheSane | v8 if that means anything |
| 08:01.29 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrt54g |
| 08:01.30 | wsoul | tonight will be trying toc10 with guild... some of the players don't even have the proper gear for it. i know i will hate it when i have to pay xxx for repairs |
| 08:01.31 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 08:01.39 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:01.39 | Arrowmaster | v8 has 2mb i think |
| 08:01.43 | Fisker | i can slap you haste |
| 08:01.46 | Fisker | I CAN SLAP YOUUUUUU |
| 08:01.46 | wsoul | gotta pug it by sunday as a dps :/ |
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| 08:01.51 | haste | no you can't Fisker |
| 08:01.55 | Fisker | oh :( |
| 08:01.56 | Arrowmaster | the wiki page has the serial numbers for all the versions |
| 08:02.33 | haste | it's too early to code, and the servers aren't up yet >:( |
| 08:02.39 | wsoul | Arrowmaster: what's your class btw |
| 08:02.46 | Arrowmaster | warlock |
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| 08:03.20 | wsoul | what name let me check it |
| 08:03.20 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: theres not many 3rd party firmwares i know of other than dd-wrt that work on 2mb models |
| 08:04.08 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Legion&n=Tokrim |
| 08:04.25 | Arrowmaster | i havent really played since 3.0 |
| 08:04.29 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh. |
| 08:04.35 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks, Arrowmaster |
| 08:04.56 | wsoul | yeah i remember you saying that a while back |
| 08:05.13 | Arrowmaster | i still have gear from TBC equiped |
| 08:06.06 | wsoul | Not bad for a person who didn't play since 3.0 |
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| 08:06.26 | wsoul | a shaman yesterday couldn't go over 1000k dps |
| 08:06.35 | Arrowmaster | i think january was the last time i was in a raid |
| 08:06.40 | wsoul | "i just dinged 4 days ago" they say that a klot lately |
| 08:06.47 | wsoul | ohhh |
| 08:06.56 | haste | just fyi |
| 08:07.12 | haste | 1000k = 1000 * 1000 = 1000000 |
| 08:07.23 | haste | so... no wonder he couldn't go over 1000k dps! :D |
| 08:07.28 | wsoul | okie will the dudes were picking on him |
| 08:07.36 | wsoul | :X |
| 08:07.42 | wsoul | he was second last |
| 08:07.45 | wsoul | in UP |
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| 08:08.04 | olafski | hope the healer was last :P |
| 08:08.11 | Arrowmaster | i have a pet for 5mans |
| 08:08.19 | Arrowmaster | sick pet, /afk |
| 08:08.20 | wsoul | actually 3 days ago i was tanking and placed 1... we got wiped and the dude had the nerve to complain about me tanking |
| 08:08.30 | wsoul | olafski: hehe yeah =) |
| 08:08.50 | NightHawkTheSan1 | wee! after like 4 years, i finally bothered to fix my net connection, so my dsl modem is in bridged mode, and the router does the heavy lifting, instead of having -two- fucking routers running on my network. |
| 08:08.55 | wsoul | i hate wipes... i don't mind if you do a mistake or two... but if your dps suck and yet complain that pisses me the most |
| 08:09.53 | wsoul | i still need to upgrade my tanking legs... i have the one from vh |
| 08:10.09 | wsoul | after the dragon brood legguards but it never dropped when i do os25 hc |
| 08:10.54 | olafski | ^^ love tanking with high dps |
| 08:11.07 | olafski | though in HCs with a pug it's quite easy to place highest tbh.. if you're not a warrior tank |
| 08:11.56 | wsoul | dk tank |
| 08:12.09 | wsoul | i got wiped in roc hc yesterday |
| 08:12.26 | wsoul | "get out" after getting done with the first phase the mount part |
| 08:12.46 | wsoul | i do mark the shaman, rogue then hunter |
| 08:12.56 | wsoul | but they always insist on getting out |
| 08:13.23 | wsoul | which is why i dispise pugs |
| 08:14.26 | wsoul | i'm not saying "i'm the best" |
| 08:15.03 | olafski | getting out makes that encounter much easier though imo |
| 08:15.06 | olafski | especially on a tank |
| 08:16.03 | wsoul | it does yes... when i run it with ppl from well known guilds everything goes smoothly |
| 08:16.14 | wsoul | had a rogue from cobra and a priest from converge |
| 08:16.18 | wsoul | two random and me |
| 08:16.45 | olafski | dunno those guilds but ok =) |
| 08:16.49 | olafski | I'm a DK tank too, death grip is so nice |
| 08:17.29 | wsoul | Converge is the second guild on kazzak after last resort |
| 08:17.39 | wsoul | cobra weren't active in summer and now they're back |
| 08:17.50 | wsoul | both are well known beside last resort |
| 08:18.06 | wsoul | last resort done toc the second day iirc |
| 08:19.03 | wsoul | i don't mind mistakes again 1,2 times is fine |
| 08:19.25 | wsoul | Mr Bush Says Fool me once shame on.... shame on you. you cannot get fooled again! |
| 08:20.18 | olafski | :) |
| 08:20.32 | olafski | somehow Mr Bush did not immediately remind me of a president |
| 08:20.50 | wsoul | :P |
| 08:21.26 | olafski | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3016/2878546183_fe9d23ac61.jpg?v=0 :) |
| 08:21.30 | wsoul | okie gotta go to class... have a good one fellas |
| 08:21.47 | olafski | cya |
| 08:21.48 | Corrodias | olafski: who are those fantastic looking people? |
| 08:22.08 | olafski | mr bush and mr hornblower :) |
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| 09:15.09 | Wobin | haha. PA is actually funny this time round =P |
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| 09:16.28 | olafski | hahahaha |
| 09:17.11 | olafski | I like the one about splinter cell vs arkham asylum too :( |
| 09:18.08 | Wobin | The one in between... weeeelll not so much =P |
| 09:18.50 | olafski | no |
| 09:18.54 | olafski | not witty enough |
| 09:21.34 | haste | wth |
| 09:21.44 | haste | the DVD player, that has the divx logo |
| 09:21.46 | haste | doesn't play divx |
| 09:21.49 | olafski | :o |
| 09:21.56 | olafski | old version of divx? |
| 09:22.00 | haste | not even the old types |
| 09:22.00 | olafski | (on the player) |
| 09:22.03 | olafski | hmm |
| 09:22.05 | olafski | lame :< |
| 09:22.07 | haste | but xvid! |
| 09:22.13 | haste | it plays flawlessly |
| 09:22.16 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:22.32 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKanPsUjP7w&feature=player_embedded |
| 09:22.37 | Wobin | -awesome- |
| 09:23.32 | Wobin | now that man could -dance- |
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| 09:33.01 | Adys | I need someone with chrome Windows |
| 09:33.04 | Adys | Cruciformer: you here? |
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| 09:39.33 | olafski | chrome windows being the chrome browser in windows? I has it |
| 09:39.53 | Adys | olafski: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/crbug-20774.html |
| 09:39.57 | Adys | there are invisible X on the page |
| 09:40.09 | Adys | can you click around the center of the page |
| 09:40.16 | Adys | and drag your mouse to the top left to highlight |
| 09:40.27 | Adys | and without releasing the click, drag back slowly to the center to highlight off |
| 09:40.27 | olafski | alright what should I be seeing :) |
| 09:40.43 | Adys | and tell me if the page is still completely white once you completely highlighted off |
| 09:40.53 | Torhal | Wobin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Band_Wagon |
| 09:40.56 | olafski | it is |
| 09:41.00 | Adys | k thanks |
| 09:41.14 | olafski | interesting test :P |
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| 09:43.52 | Adys | olafski: http://crbug.com/20774 |
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| 09:46.19 | olafski | ah |
| 09:46.29 | Wobin | Torhal: It fits rather well with Smooth Criminal =) |
| 09:47.01 | Torhal | Wobin: :D |
| 09:49.01 | Arrowmaster | ok why the hell did i end up finding about about this irssi-proxy built in feature to forward ctcp's (and thus dccs) to a client from an irssi changelog while trying to google for a script to do it when its not mentioned at all anywhere in the irssi website or docs |
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| 09:59.23 | Adys | [Fwd: [tools-dev] Re: [dev] Re: [tools-dev] Line-endings in source files] InboxX |
| 09:59.47 | Adys | thats after gmail cleaned up the title |
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