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| 00:08.23 | wsoul | what's it called the feuture in DBM that shows aggro? |
| 00:08.37 | wsoul | used to be on by default, now it's not =) |
| 00:25.27 | Legorol | Halp! Anyone good with Excel? I have a simple table (no formatting, just some text and numbers), and I want to output it to a textfile, such that when viewed with a monospaced font, it looks like a nice neat table. |
| 00:25.30 | Legorol | Any ideas? |
| 00:26.08 | Legorol | To put it another way: i want to copy/paste the table into a forum post on a phpbb forum, in a way so that it actually looks like a table and not a bunch of misaligned text |
| 00:29.09 | Yssaril | Legorol: you can output it as a csv file (just a text file) but you would still need to realign it with spaces |
| 00:29.41 | Legorol | yah i know about the various text file output options excel has, but that doesn't help as the table is large |
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| 00:29.46 | Legorol | realigning it manually is out of the question |
| 00:30.08 | Legorol | i was hoping Excel had a space-aligned output option to text file that i haven't found yet |
| 00:30.51 | Yssaril | ouch you can proabbaly hack something up with macros that traverse your cells find the longest one per column and then add spaces to all the other once (making everything into text) |
| 00:31.02 | Legorol | eek |
| 00:32.07 | industrial | if I have an addon with a dependency can I be sure that when I load my addon at say PLAYER_LOGIN (I assume this is when OnEnable() happens with Ace3 mods) it will load after the enable of the dependency? not right? |
| 00:32.49 | industrial | should I hook the addon's OnEnable and execute my code after it instead? wondering what the correct way of handling this is, never wrote a 'plugin' before |
| 00:34.04 | Arrowmaster | you might have to check if ace3 uses ipairs or pairs |
| 00:35.06 | Arrowmaster | but im perty sure that events are delivered to frames in the order they registered them, the instantheal author was majorly abusing that |
| 00:36.18 | wsoul | Anyone knows how to enable aggro bars with the latest version of DBM? |
| 00:36.21 | Coren{de} | there's ADDON_LOADED, arg1 is the loaded addon, I wouldn't bet that any other event besides that is per definition in the loading order |
| 00:36.27 | wsoul | i cannot find it under options |
| 00:37.16 | industrial | Coren{de}: I want to load my code after the addon's OnEnable, not after it loads :) |
| 00:37.24 | industrial | but I can just try and find out anyway .. |
| 00:37.59 | industrial | yep works fine |
| 00:38.02 | industrial | lol :p |
| 00:38.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah go look at the instantheal code, its abuses the fuck out of events being delivered to frames in the order the frames registered the event |
| 00:39.24 | Corrodias | that sounds like a bad idea... like something that could easily change in a future release |
| 00:40.12 | industrial | guess just hooking is more fool proof |
| 00:46.08 | industrial | meh |
| 00:46.12 | industrial | http://gist.github.com/168830 |
| 00:46.17 | industrial | now I broke dominos :| |
| 00:46.27 | industrial | at least, the binding text isn't showing :p |
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| 01:00.58 | Bruners | industrial: what are you making? |
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| 01:01.57 | industrial | Bruners: Dominos_Zoomed |
| 01:02.32 | Bruners | isnt there buttofacade for that? |
| 01:02.47 | industrial | wuzzat :P |
| 01:03.07 | industrial | anyway, Seikou desu, got it working |
| 01:03.26 | industrial | I love the 'zoomed' button look so I want it for Dominos, my current action bar flavour of the month (my own is broken since 3.0 and I cba fixing all the code for vehicles etc) |
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| 01:04.36 | industrial | http://gist.github.com/168830 |
| 01:04.57 | Bruners | dominos supports buttonfacade |
| 01:05.21 | industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/aef89caadf7272f123f95c076cd14d45.jpg |
| 01:05.57 | industrial | uh, why is that image borked o_O |
| 01:06.08 | Bruners | not borked here? |
| 01:06.16 | Bruners | or that depends what you mean with borked :P |
| 01:06.49 | industrial | nvm then |
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| 01:12.26 | Bruners | industrial: what is that cage icon ? |
| 01:12.50 | industrial | Call Stabled Pet |
| 01:12.58 | industrial | 30min cd |
| 01:13.09 | Bruners | oh a new hunter feature? |
| 01:13.18 | industrial | yes, you get it at 80 |
| 01:13.29 | industrial | though I never ever use it because I only have one 80 pet and I don't pvp |
| 01:13.35 | Bruners | hehe |
| 01:13.38 | industrial | *throws it off the bar* |
| 01:13.57 | Bruners | havent used my hunter since wotlk :S |
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| 01:14.27 | Bruners | was some fights in tbc where different pet specs had a purpose |
| 01:14.35 | industrial | I'm still torn about wether I like my enhancement shaman or survival hunter more :\ |
| 01:15.44 | industrial | I have equal gear on both now but the hunter is clearly outperforming (as intended) in dps, though shaman seems more fun - expecially in itemization |
| 01:16.04 | industrial | stacking hit to proc 4 piece t8 enhancement bonus, who thinks of those things :p |
| 01:16.19 | Shirik | .... my guild is such morons |
| 01:16.20 | industrial | to proc it more* |
| 01:16.32 | Shirik | Our raid leader DCed from vent while he was discussing a fight |
| 01:16.38 | Shirik | and the instant response in raid chat is |
| 01:16.54 | Shirik | "Crap, vent cut out for me, brb." "Is vent broke for anyone else?" "Crap, the vent server died." |
| 01:17.03 | industrial | lol. |
| 01:17.11 | Shirik | after about 2 minutes someone speaks up with "... are you sure it's not just nobody's talking?" |
| 01:17.29 | industrial | -_- |
| 01:18.17 | Gnarfoz | Fisker should burn Ventrilo to the ground |
| 01:18.20 | Jerub | hey, does anyone know how to get vent on mac to work with anything other than speex? |
| 01:18.38 | Bruners | dont think its possible |
| 01:19.01 | Bruners | but why use anything other than speex |
| 01:19.08 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 01:19.11 | Jerub | yeah, the guy running our vent server doesn't know how to reconfigure it ;) |
| 01:19.52 | Gnarfoz | 'the guy running your vent server' is violating the Vent license anyway, I'd wager :p |
| 01:20.17 | Gnarfoz | (or is using a horribly old version, or indeed 'you' is not more than 8 people? :D) |
| 01:20.49 | Jerub | usually less than 10. |
| 01:20.52 | Jerub | it's a very small guild. |
| 01:21.10 | wsoul | EU guild or US guild |
| 01:21.13 | Jerub | AU |
| 01:21.27 | Bruners | why have a small guild really |
| 01:21.31 | Gnarfoz | because |
| 01:21.33 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.38 | wsoul | I'm trying to figure out that aggro bars with BDM, i cannot see it anywhere wit hthe latest release |
| 01:21.48 | Gnarfoz | sleep tiems |
| 01:21.52 | wsoul | DBM even |
| 01:21.55 | wsoul | Sleep tight |
| 01:21.56 | Coren{de} | because size doesn't imply quality... |
| 01:22.13 | wsoul | that doesn't sound right |
| 01:22.23 | Coren{de} | or it's a special interest guild, like actual RPers (I heard rumors about their existance...) |
| 01:23.02 | Jerub | a bunch of people that vaguely know each other basically. |
| 01:23.29 | industrial | Bruners: CV used to be a very small guild for years |
| 01:23.41 | wsoul | CV? |
| 01:23.52 | Bruners | best guild in the world at the moment |
| 01:23.56 | industrial | ^ |
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| 01:24.01 | wsoul | what's cv stands for |
| 01:24.03 | wsoul | and i thought |
| 01:24.11 | industrial | Cuddle Vendor, and it was a joke. |
| 01:24.12 | wsoul | ensydia are the best |
| 01:24.57 | industrial | Bruners: it was mostly alts from Ref.. and me =D |
| 01:24.58 | Coren{de} | depends on one's metric |
| 01:25.11 | wsoul | CV is a us guild or eu? |
| 01:25.15 | industrial | eu |
| 01:26.35 | Bruners | takes time to get used to not having character screen bound to c anymore :S |
| 01:27.38 | industrial | I have most of my panels on E R F G Z X C V B and shift, ctrl and alt of them :p |
| 01:28.36 | wsoul | i have everything on default |
| 01:28.51 | wsoul | and two addons |
| 01:29.09 | augustl | 1 2 3 4 5 < r f c x q e here! |
| 01:29.16 | augustl | and shift/ctrl |
| 01:30.46 | industrial | I don't like default because it's all laid out to memorize letters by function, c -> character (i dont even know the others anymore) |
| 01:30.52 | industrial | It's not really ergonomic |
| 01:31.39 | Bruners | http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/keybindings.jpg mines |
| 01:32.59 | Bruners | http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_081709_033147.jpg |
| 01:33.01 | augustl | I use 7 for character panel and 8 for social |
| 01:33.05 | augustl | o for chat reply |
| 01:33.55 | Coren{de} | 1-\, <y, space, shift, alt, but core stuff in the 1-4/alt+1-4 range |
| 01:35.35 | Coren{de} | I prefer some keys to be far away for stuff with longer cooldowns :D |
| 01:35.54 | Bruners | i use numpad for cooldowns |
| 01:36.09 | Elusive | That chat is pretty small. |
| 01:36.14 | Elusive | Kind of like it though. |
| 01:36.27 | Elusive | What're you using for that bottom GUI? the black area |
| 01:36.33 | Bruners | oPanel |
| 01:37.11 | industrial | hm, is that oCD in the topcenter? |
| 01:37.14 | Bruners | can also be extended by pushing f5 http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_081709_033613.jpg |
| 01:37.17 | Bruners | yep |
| 01:37.44 | Elusive | What about your barS? |
| 01:37.51 | Bruners | which ? |
| 01:37.56 | Elusive | Spell bars. |
| 01:37.58 | Elusive | Actionbars* |
| 01:38.17 | Bruners | hidden |
| 01:38.23 | Bruners | dont need them :P |
| 01:38.52 | Bruners | but i used to have it like this http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_061109_201350.jpg |
| 01:39.44 | wsoul | I'm missing my aggro bars |
| 01:39.46 | Elusive | I so need to get me a bigger screen some day. |
| 01:40.10 | wsoul | updated my addon and now it's gone :/ |
| 01:40.25 | industrial | 2013.45 3 [Misszzstoney]: satee stokkie |
| 01:40.26 | industrial | lmao |
| 01:41.54 | industrial | wsoul: I have my tooltips on mouseover and those include aggro, when I want to see my aggro I just put my mouse on the unit (which is where it's roaming usually anyway) |
| 01:43.19 | augustl | Bruners: without action bars, how do you manage in range and global cooldown? |
| 01:43.32 | wsoul | industrial: had it like on whenever i get into an instance or join a party/raid |
| 01:43.58 | wsoul | err let me rephrase, it turns on whenever i join a party/raid |
| 01:44.00 | Bruners | augustl: global cooldown you get the feeling for, range you have error messages |
| 01:44.00 | augustl | Bruners: I use the action bars to see the global cooldown pulse and to see when certain spells are in range, such as Charge |
| 01:44.13 | augustl | hmm |
| 01:44.32 | wsoul | industrial: i've just updated to the latest release.... |
| 01:44.34 | Bruners | those where the only two reason i had bars as well |
| 01:44.35 | industrial | just mash charge =D |
| 01:45.09 | Bruners | i actually got better at following my rotation by removing the bars |
| 01:45.39 | augustl | Bruners: that's interesting |
| 01:46.16 | augustl | Bruners: I spend way to much time gazing at the bars, when what I really want to know is the GCD and when certain abilities are available |
| 01:46.25 | augustl | so how do you handle the "when certain abilities are available" part? |
| 01:46.42 | augustl | e.g. arms warriors. There's no set rotation, it relies heavily on procs. |
| 01:47.08 | Bruners | NeedToKnow/TellMeWhen/Buffs/oCD |
| 01:47.18 | augustl | looks them up |
| 01:48.33 | Jerub | i need to fix my drood rotation. |
| 01:49.44 | Jerub | i've had much more practice with my bear rotation than my kitty rotation because i use bear when soloing elites, so my kitty dps rotation is practically facerolling. |
| 01:54.05 | industrial | how does cat dps hold up anyway, I never ever see one in raids |
| 01:54.06 | industrial | like |
| 01:54.08 | industrial | ever. |
| 01:54.14 | industrial | as mainspec, that is. |
| 01:54.17 | augustl | isn't cat durid good for fite? |
| 01:54.33 | augustl | I've been told that shadow priests are out of the question as well these days |
| 01:54.55 | industrial | mmno they can do 5k dps just fine |
| 01:55.30 | industrial | I'd love to see BM hunter back though |
| 01:55.41 | augustl | what are raiding hunters specced as these days? |
| 01:55.48 | augustl | haven't raided in wotlk |
| 01:55.56 | industrial | survival mostly and a few MM |
| 01:56.25 | augustl | survival for raiding? Though survival was supposed to be pvp |
| 01:56.26 | Bruners | in tbc it was BM and Surv at perfect gear |
| 01:56.30 | industrial | they do about the same dps, I think survival still does a little bit more but I'm biased because I've never liked MM ever in wow :p |
| 01:59.05 | industrial | and now it's sleepytimes |
| 02:00.09 | Jerub | industrial: apparently 3-5k is possible with good gear. |
| 02:00.23 | Jerub | my kitty is only l77 so i've not started gearing yet, but i can pull 1k on boss fights. |
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| 02:31.18 | kenthree | is there a proper way to comment in toc files |
| 02:31.40 | Ackis | single # |
| 02:31.41 | digmouse | use # |
| 02:31.49 | kenthree | thanks |
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| 02:43.52 | NiLon | so I started this addon creating thingy today and now when I register event such as self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER"), where I do catch this event? |
| 02:44.56 | NiLon | tried to make function for frame framename_OnEvent() and there check if event is "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" but seems like it won't get that far |
| 02:48.03 | Arrowmaster | you need to set an OnEvent handler |
| 02:57.54 | NiLon | and how I set that? |
| 03:03.57 | Elusive | cool cool, what type of addon you creating nilon :) |
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| 03:04.18 | Shirik | I am so full of epic win |
| 03:04.25 | Shirik | 3 hunters try to FD to avoid repairs on Vezax |
| 03:04.32 | Shirik | I'm running around in the back |
| 03:04.32 | NiLon | Elusive just trying to get basics first :p |
| 03:04.34 | Shirik | get shadow crash 3 times |
| 03:04.40 | Shirik | lands on each one of them and kills em |
| 03:05.02 | NiLon | but making simple callback to event seems to be bigger challenge that I tought :D |
| 03:10.36 | roasticle__ | you can do it like so |
| 03:10.53 | roasticle__ | YourFrame:SetScript("OnEvent",function(self, event, ...) |
| 03:11.19 | roasticle__ | if (event == ""CHAT_MSG_WHISPER") then DO STUFF end |
| 03:11.22 | roasticle__ | end |
| 03:11.42 | roasticle__ | have to have the registerevent first tho |
| 03:12.36 | kenthree | how hard is it to make a minimap button with LDB? i'm still learning the basics |
| 03:19.04 | Arrowmaster | LDB doesnt make minimap buttons |
| 03:22.41 | Bruners | but libDBIcon does |
| 03:22.47 | Shirik | 's hard drive goes click click click, click click click, click click click |
| 03:22.57 | Jerub | Shirik: hey, i hear backups are a good idea. |
| 03:24.41 | NiLon | wohoo it's alive |
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| 03:48.43 | NiLon | hmm.. how to get own name? "player" is literally "player", player is nil and PlayerName returns table: and some hex :f |
| 03:49.50 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api |
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| 03:51.33 | Yssaril | what is the accepted way of making sure the game build is compatible with your code? (it shouldn't run on new patches at all) |
| 03:52.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you can check the game's build version or interface version, and just return out if it's not what you want. |
| 03:53.18 | NightHawkTheSane | if( interface_version > 30200 ) return end or somethign near the top of your lua file |
| 03:53.38 | NiLon | NightHawkTheSane can't find anything useful |
| 03:53.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: you can obviously expand upon that to do more, but thats the gist. |
| 03:53.59 | tekkub | Yssaril: GetBuildInfo() ... and I always tied my fixes to a specific build |
| 03:54.01 | NightHawkTheSane | NiLon: then you're not looking hard enough. |
| 03:54.23 | tekkub | if the build number was higher, print out a note to the user that the issue may have been fixed and to update... |
| 03:54.23 | Yssaril | tekkub: ok :) |
| 03:54.38 | tekkub | and then ride blizzy's ass to fix their shit, pointing them at your code |
| 03:55.05 | tekkub | I'm still on the fence about making the thing an embed |
| 03:55.22 | tekkub | pointing people at the standalone fix might be best |
| 03:55.23 | NiLon | NightHawkTheSane it's basically same as looking needle in haystack |
| 03:55.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ctrl-f is your friend |
| 03:56.13 | tekkub | command-f might be a better friend though |
| 03:56.26 | NightHawkTheSane | well, true |
| 03:56.46 | NightHawkTheSane | but i assume that if someone's using a mac, they're not an idiot, and wouldn't ask dumb questions like that ;) |
| 03:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | although i probably expect too much |
| 03:57.12 | tekkub | well mac has a ctrl too |
| 03:57.16 | NiLon | NightHawkTheSane won't help if you don't know what to look for |
| 03:57.38 | tekkub | and mac does seem to have a sorta reverse-bell-curve of users |
| 03:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub: true, but again, mac users generally know better :P |
| 03:57.56 | tekkub | their either idiots wanting an easy to use computer, or programmer types that want it for work |
| 03:58.45 | tekkub | *they're |
| 03:58.53 | tekkub | woo that makes me look stupid :P |
| 03:58.59 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 03:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, i do that all the time |
| 03:59.25 | tekkub | I don't do it intentially, I do know proper engrish |
| 03:59.32 | tekkub | sometime the fingers just do what they want |
| 03:59.38 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, and at least you recognized the mistake :P |
| 04:09.00 | Mikk | tekkub: there's a blip around the middle - graphics weenies |
| 04:09.06 | Mikk | small but yet noticeable |
| 04:09.20 | Mikk | and of course all the people wanting to be different, ending up being the same as all the other people being different |
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| 04:16.08 | tekkub | you who the what now? |
| 04:19.23 | kd3 | rofl at xkcd |
| 04:20.14 | tekkub | I'm trying to get Chris to buy us prints and get them framed |
| 04:20.38 | tekkub | they bought me and one other guy posters off xkcd randomly a few months back |
| 04:20.50 | tekkub | I just got a poser frome for it last week too >< |
| 04:20.59 | tekkub | and I can't type... still |
| 04:23.51 | kd3 | hm... one last day of work before blizzcon time off. yay |
| 04:24.00 | tekkub | bah |
| 04:24.15 | tekkub | not that I have any reason to go again, I has meeted everyone |
| 04:24.21 | tekkub | well, except clad |
| 04:24.26 | tekkub | everyone that matters anymore |
| 04:24.30 | kd3 | har |
| 04:25.36 | Mikk | lies you haz not met me |
| 04:25.40 | Mikk | snifs |
| 04:25.44 | tekkub | and will you be there |
| 04:25.58 | Mikk | no :P |
| 04:26.03 | tekkub | see :P |
| 04:26.19 | kd3 | c'mon caffeine. wear off |
| 04:26.22 | kd3 | yawns |
| 04:26.34 | Mikk | considers more caffeine |
| 04:26.46 | tekkub | go suck on the filter for a while |
| 04:26.46 | Nechckn | why wear off? Isn't the whole point to *not* wear off? =) |
| 04:26.59 | Mikk | well it's 6.30am over here? =) |
| 04:27.02 | kd3 | not if I'm still running on about 90 minutes of sleep over the past few days |
| 04:27.10 | tekkub | that sudden jolt of caffine should make the crash faster |
| 04:27.12 | tekkub | and deeper |
| 04:27.15 | Mikk | shiiet |
| 04:27.19 | Mikk | go sleep nutcase >.< |
| 04:27.23 | kd3 | trying to |
| 04:27.34 | Mikk | may i recommend Ranma 1/2? |
| 04:27.42 | kd3 | lol |
| 04:27.43 | tekkub | PT was the result of me being unable to sleep for two nights |
| 04:27.54 | tekkub | it was followed by a nice 15hr hibernation |
| 04:28.08 | Nechckn | Read some fun xml documentation!! |
| 04:28.10 | Mikk | is that why it took 4 revs to get right? =P |
| 04:28.13 | ccox | Shirik: not PhotoMatix, PhotoMerge (the pano merger that comes with Photoshop) |
| 04:28.20 | Shirik | ah |
| 04:28.22 | Nechckn | That is usually enough to put anyone out, cold, quickly. |
| 04:28.25 | kd3 | xml doc? ooh, that'll knock me right out |
| 04:28.37 | Shirik | well what do you do HDR with, ccox? HDR merge? |
| 04:28.40 | Shirik | all photoshop |
| 04:28.50 | tekkub | the trick is to try to activly think about what the docs are talking about |
| 04:28.55 | tekkub | you can't just glaze over |
| 04:29.05 | ccox | yep |
| 04:29.17 | tekkub | if you think, your brain will sleep to save itself |
| 04:29.19 | Nechckn | especially if you are tired already, your brain just sort of seizes up =) |
| 04:29.26 | tekkub | it's sorta a narcoleptic circuit breaker |
| 04:29.32 | ccox | I have yet to have an HDR merge fail with Photoshop CS3 or CS4 |
| 04:29.33 | Shirik | ccox: It doesn't have a problem merging the inconsistent transparent areas? |
| 04:30.09 | ccox | not so far |
| 04:30.14 | Shirik | or the fact that there might be inconsistent geometric skews |
| 04:30.32 | tekkub | is the PTR only on EU right now? |
| 04:30.38 | kd3 | it's on US |
| 04:30.41 | tekkub | I need to apply kd3's diff to the git repo |
| 04:30.43 | kd3 | I sent out a diff already |
| 04:30.48 | ccox | Shirik - use whatever works for you |
| 04:30.49 | tekkub | yea I know |
| 04:30.58 | Shirik | that's why I'm trying a bunch of stuff |
| 04:30.59 | tekkub | I just didn't see any sign it was up here :P |
| 04:37.37 | tekkub | kd3: is that right? build 10192 to 10192 ? |
| 04:37.53 | kd3 | sigh |
| 04:37.59 | kd3 | 10192-10257 |
| 04:38.10 | tekkub | kdfail |
| 04:38.51 | tekkub | hehe, first line of diffing... |
| 04:38.52 | tekkub | -C:\Projects\WoW\Bin\Interface\FrameXML\UI.xsd"> |
| 04:40.38 | tekkub | ERR_REMOVE_FROM_PVP_QUEUE_FACTION_CHANGE_NONE = "You have been removed from a PvP Queue because you changed your faction."; |
| 04:40.46 | tekkub | ... why would they let you do that live? |
| 04:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | You remain in queue while logged out |
| 04:41.05 | tekkub | oh |
| 04:41.09 | tekkub | see what I know about pvp |
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| 04:42.55 | kd3 | alright. xml doc is starting to hurt my brain |
| 04:43.03 | kd3 | zzz |
| 04:43.07 | tekkub | keep at it |
| 04:43.13 | tekkub | that's a sign it's working |
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| 04:59.15 | Yssaril | tekkub: btw where do you post fix addons so that blizzard sees them (and fixes them themselves) ? |
| 05:00.14 | tekkub | release it normally, then when a "Patch 3.2.2 changes" thread gets started by Iriel, link it there and bitch a bunch |
| 05:00.17 | tekkub | :) |
| 05:00.40 | tekkub | I know there's a suggestions thread out there, but I've had the best luck in the patch change threads |
| 05:00.51 | Yssaril | ic :) |
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| 05:06.00 | Shirik | that's because nobody listens to tekkub normally |
| 05:06.12 | tekkub | pbbt |
| 05:06.24 | tekkub | you can thank me for dual-screen support and the addon comm channel later |
| 05:06.30 | Shirik | nah |
| 05:06.34 | Shirik | That was all me |
| 05:06.47 | Shirik | in my world at least |
| 05:06.48 | Jerub | dual-screen support? |
| 05:06.53 | Shirik | I reject your reality and substitute my own |
| 05:07.04 | tekkub | no that's mythbusters |
| 05:07.08 | Jerub | I'm just annoyed that blizzard released 3.2 with massive graphics glitches on mac. |
| 05:07.12 | tekkub | now you're getting your nerds confused |
| 05:07.26 | Shirik | I'm just annoyed that people with macs think they deserve to be catered to |
| 05:07.31 | tekkub | goddamn hippies |
| 05:07.31 | Shirik | get a PC. No problems. |
| 05:07.31 | Jerub | :'( |
| 05:08.04 | Shirik | if we all just stopped releasing software for macs |
| 05:08.13 | Shirik | nobody would use macs and we wouldn't have this problem |
| 05:08.14 | augustl | Bruners: btw, what do you use to hide the default action bars? |
| 05:08.19 | Shirik | obviously it's the optimal solution |
| 05:08.31 | Jerub | I have a disability that prevents me from paying money for computers, and the computer given me most recently was a mac. |
| 05:08.35 | NightHawkTheSane | shirik's cute when he's being arrogant. which, really, is always. :P |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:08.58 | Shirik | is that a compliment or an insult? |
| 05:09.04 | NightHawkTheSane | a little of column a, a little of column b. |
| 05:09.35 | augustl | Bruners: also, do you have an addon to manage the action bars so that you can swap spells around when you respec etc? |
| 05:09.39 | tekkub | frankly, I've come to like having a real shell when I'm working |
| 05:09.45 | tekkub | but for wow, PC, always |
| 05:10.00 | tekkub | I'm not willing to shell out that kind of money to get the power I can get on a PC for $300 |
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| 05:11.10 | augustl | Shirik: sounds like a good idea, only it should be the other way around |
| 05:11.22 | augustl | but I'm sure it was just a typo |
| 05:15.52 | tekkub | why are tauren npcs always expecting me? |
| 05:17.19 | Jerub | I want a better chat interface to wow. |
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| 05:19.12 | augustl | Jerub: totally, should be more like IRC or something |
| 05:19.38 | augustl | I think the most sensible thing would be to have two panels; "terminal" or "log", and "chats with people" |
| 05:19.53 | Shirik | tekkub: cygwin |
| 05:19.57 | Shirik | it ain't hard |
| 05:20.13 | augustl | the terminal would show everything that aren't chat messages, while the other panel would show one "tab" per channel/whisper |
| 05:20.26 | augustl | and it shouldn't look like it was created with Paintshop pro in 1995 |
| 05:20.41 | tekkub | Shirik: that's what she said |
| 05:21.03 | Yssaril | tekkub: btw GnomishVendorShrinker looks great |
| 05:21.10 | tekkub | and what does cygwin run in anyway, cmd like msys? |
| 05:21.18 | tekkub | cmd just needs to die is all |
| 05:21.19 | augustl | cygwin is totally ugly |
| 05:21.28 | Arrowmaster | cygwin is evil |
| 05:21.28 | tekkub | powershell probably isn't half bad, I've never used it |
| 05:21.52 | tekkub | console2 was slightly better than cmd, but still kinda crummy |
| 05:22.16 | Shirik | Anyone familiar with Amazon S3? |
| 05:22.37 | Jerub | Really, I want to be able to put the chat window on another monitor. |
| 05:22.53 | augustl | Shirik: yep |
| 05:23.05 | Shirik | Is it all HTTP based or something? |
| 05:23.06 | Jerub | and be able to tab between channels, not have them all mushed into the same one |
| 05:23.37 | augustl | Shirik: yeah |
| 05:23.47 | Shirik | Anyway, let's say I want to upload 6300 files. As I understand it, $0.01/PUT request, means that's $63, not including bandwidth? |
| 05:24.14 | Corrodias | -sounds- right... |
| 05:24.23 | tekkub | HA HA |
| 05:24.28 | Arrowmaster | they charge you per upload? |
| 05:24.35 | augustl | I'm not sure if it performs a PUT request for uploads |
| 05:24.35 | Yssaril | Shirik: its per 1000 put requests :P |
| 05:24.42 | Shirik | how do you get 1000? |
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| 05:24.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:24.59 | Shirik | I see |
| 05:25.01 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 05:25.05 | Yssaril | from their website :P |
| 05:25.06 | Yssaril | $0.01 per 1,000 PUT, COPY, POST, or LIST requests |
| 05:25.06 | Shirik | thanks, that's a lot better, lol |
| 05:25.13 | Kraps | boogers |
| 05:25.17 | Shirik | Here's the more important question |
| 05:25.24 | Shirik | how long will it take me to upload 73GB |
| 05:25.36 | NiLon | tar, put, untar = win and did cost $0.01 |
| 05:25.51 | Jerub | Shirik: what's your upstream pipe like? |
| 05:25.57 | Shirik | Probably crap |
| 05:26.34 | Shirik | I really should just do it; an online backup of all of my pictures is probably the safest way to have that backup, and the sooner I start, the sooner it will be in sync |
| 05:26.50 | Shirik | I don't want to use DVDs because DVDs are not permanent media, and I can't find a reasonable tape drive these days |
| 05:26.54 | Jerub | Shirik: wolframalpha.com will accept queries like '73GB / adsl' |
| 05:27.10 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:29.12 | Shirik | any other suggestions? |
| 05:29.42 | Shirik | external drive is not permanent storage |
| 05:29.49 | Shirik | DVDs are too small |
| 05:29.51 | Arrowmaster | ~~ (3.38 to 4.506) days |
| 05:29.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:29.55 | Yssaril | tape drive ? |
| 05:30.08 | Shirik | I'm having trouble finding a consumer-level tape drive |
| 05:33.08 | Arrowmaster | i dont think you will since consumers dont use tape drives |
| 05:33.16 | Lukian | tape drives aren't permanent storage either :> |
| 05:33.22 | Arrowmaster | you would need to get something like an LTO-4 |
| 05:33.24 | Lukian | especially if you can't find readers :D |
| 05:33.37 | Arrowmaster | tape drives are better than some other options |
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| 05:33.59 | Shirik | Tape drives are far better than a hard drive for lasting storage |
| 05:34.17 | Shirik | LTO-4 is a model number? |
| 05:34.42 | Arrowmaster | spec |
| 05:34.43 | Yssaril | store it on punch cards :P |
| 05:35.00 | Shirik | the tape drives I'm seeing are approaching the thousands mark |
| 05:35.04 | Durthos | Does anyone know the best way to contact Mikk? I have some questions about ChatThrottleLib - I've posted them on his talk page, but I'm wondering if he prefers that or email |
| 05:35.05 | Shirik | I just can't justify that right now |
| 05:35.17 | Shirik | like 1.5-2k |
| 05:35.36 | Arrowmaster | LTO-4 spec is 800GB per tape, and should last approx 17 years if you write over the entire tape once a month |
| 05:35.42 | Lukian | backup to multiple hdds and cycle them every 6mths-3yrs-5yrs. |
| 05:36.06 | Yssaril | http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/dell-deals-servers?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=2 <-- no idea if its any good but relatively cheap via the small business section |
| 05:36.51 | Yssaril | nm bahhhh google failed |
| 05:36.52 | Arrowmaster | does that even mention how much storage it is? |
| 05:37.14 | Yssaril | 640GB though |
| 05:37.37 | Lukian | lol that's.. tiny and overpriced... and only has a 1yr wty |
| 05:37.46 | Lukian | which should say something about the quality of the drive in it |
| 05:38.18 | Yssaril | yep |
| 05:38.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah i bought 1TB harddrives for cheaper than that and they came with a 7 year wty |
| 05:38.43 | Lukian | yeah, those 7yr ones look sexy |
| 05:39.50 | Arrowmaster | wish i would have gotten the free 500gb drives with 7yr instead of free 500gb drives with a 2-3 yr |
| 05:40.15 | Lukian | hehe indeedy, where's that offer again? |
| 05:40.22 | Arrowmaster | newegg |
| 05:41.01 | Shirik | I am not using a hard drive to back up data |
| 05:41.11 | Shirik | I know these 1TB drives are all the rage these days |
| 05:41.17 | Shirik | but hard drives are not a permanent storage solution |
| 05:41.19 | Lukian | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.232810 |
| 05:41.21 | Lukian | there it is :) |
| 05:41.37 | Shirik | they're great for your anime collection (unless you're kd3 in which case you need about 8 of them) |
| 05:41.38 | Lukian | Shirik, there is no permanent solution |
| 05:41.46 | Lukian | unless you just pay someone for remote backup |
| 05:41.47 | Shirik | no, but there are better solutions than hard drives |
| 05:41.49 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: i did purchase 8 of them! |
| 05:41.52 | Lukian | and let them handle the hardware. |
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| 05:43.19 | Yssaril | Shirik: http://www.amazon.com/Smartbuy-External-Tape-Drive-Bundle/dp/B000FOGH2Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1250487521&sr=8-1 hows that? |
| 05:43.38 | Shirik | yeah I did see that |
| 05:44.30 | Yssaril | what are you backing up btw? |
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| 05:45.07 | Shirik | pictures |
| 05:45.31 | Yssaril | get some good highres prints of them :) |
| 05:46.00 | Shirik | quite expensive for 3600 pictures |
| 05:46.04 | Shirik | around $25 each |
| 05:46.09 | Shirik | lua> 3600*25 |
| 05:46.10 | lua_bot | Shirik: 90000 |
| 05:46.12 | Shirik | that's only $90k |
| 05:46.50 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 05:46.52 | Shirik | besides, you lose the RAW data when you print them out |
| 05:47.01 | Shirik | black becomes black instead of "black" |
| 05:47.19 | Jerub | only offsite backup is backup. I'm in favour of using S3 or dropbox or something for offsite backup. |
| 05:47.42 | Shirik | I'm thinking of using S3 |
| 05:48.25 | Shirik | Because in all honesty, there's different levels of backup I care about. For most of my documents, I'm content with just backing them up on something like a hard drive or whatever, and holding on to it |
| 05:48.31 | Shirik | for my pictures |
| 05:48.38 | Shirik | that's a completely different story |
| 05:49.45 | Yssaril | goodnight guys |
| 05:50.15 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:50.24 | Shirik | when testing to see if a find command operates correctly |
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| 05:50.42 | Shirik | correct way: find ./folder | xargs echo |
| 05:50.49 | Shirik | incorrect way: find ./folder | xargs cat |
| 05:51.04 | Lukian | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_online_backup_services |
| 05:54.15 | Jerub | Shirik: noted. |
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| 06:28.21 | Thunder_Child | http://fukung.net/v/17529/quotes_fixed.jpg |
| 06:31.55 | Thunder_Child | http://fukung.net/v/7849/cakedeliciouslose.jpg |
| 06:44.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: That's what happens when someone gets too much free time with MS Paint |
| 06:46.40 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, and this one? http://fukung.net/v/7336/ebaum20071118105632.jpg |
| 06:46.43 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:47.12 | Shirik | so Thunder_Child |
| 06:47.14 | Shirik | I have to ask |
| 06:47.20 | Shirik | why hugin instead of photoshop? |
| 06:47.41 | Shirik | I'm trying to do an HDR pano and hugin simply refuses to do it |
| 06:47.49 | Shirik | it seems it does not like having to do 35 images at once |
| 06:47.54 | Thunder_Child | but PS will? |
| 06:48.08 | Shirik | I'm still working on it, but I hope/think it will |
| 06:48.29 | Shirik | Hugin just gave me an error right up front when I tried to run alignment on the 35 pics |
| 06:48.34 | Shirik | basically saying "no fu" |
| 06:48.42 | Thunder_Child | and i have shoved more than 35 images in hugin. though i have never tried to do alignment + HDR |
| 06:48.48 | Thunder_Child | i'm not sure it can do both at once |
| 06:48.55 | Shirik | Ignore the HDR part |
| 06:48.58 | Shirik | it wouldn't even let me align |
| 06:49.16 | Thunder_Child | what did it say? |
| 06:49.21 | Shirik | let me try again |
| 06:50.11 | Shirik | also random question |
| 06:50.25 | Shirik | hugin seems capable of automatically figuring out what my lens is, but the parameters seem to be off |
| 06:50.37 | Shirik | should I trust it, or do you think I know better? |
| 06:51.38 | Thunder_Child | "seem to be" or are? |
| 06:51.58 | Shirik | seem to be |
| 06:52.10 | Shirik | Specifically it sets the focal length multiplier to 0.98x |
| 06:52.17 | Shirik | when I have no reason to believe it wouldn't be 1x |
| 06:53.15 | Shirik | sorry I'm running a backup right now on the same drive the pictures are on, so it's taking a while for hugin to reload these images |
| 06:53.52 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, try a non-1x focal length image and see what it does, if it alters it by .02 then i would say it knows what it's doing |
| 06:54.03 | Shirik | oh yeah, more important question |
| 06:54.39 | Shirik | I don't think I have successfully gotten hugin to not say "Very bad fit. Check for parallax errors blah blah" yet once |
| 06:54.42 | Shirik | on any set of images |
| 06:54.49 | Shirik | the images still seem to come out fine though |
| 06:54.52 | Shirik | is this normal? |
| 06:55.38 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..offhand i can not ever remember hugin saying that to me |
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| 06:57.00 | Shirik | it's right below the align button |
| 06:57.07 | Shirik | where it says the average and max error |
| 06:57.22 | Shirik | and I'm wondering if it's just beacuse the pictures are so damn big or what |
| 06:57.49 | Thunder_Child | interesting, when i loaded some panorama pics in it gave me a FLM of 1.62x |
| 06:58.01 | Fisker | Shiriks Shirik_ |
| 06:58.13 | Thunder_Child | not sure how acurate that is however |
| 06:58.26 | Thunder_Child | accurate* |
| 06:58.30 | Shirik | 1.62? |
| 06:58.44 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 06:58.45 | Shirik | actually I guess that's about right |
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| 06:58.49 | Shirik | for a crop sensor |
| 06:58.58 | Thunder_Child | with a FL of 18mm |
| 06:59.00 | Shirik | I'm not sure of the exact number off the top of my head |
| 06:59.09 | Thunder_Child | ya, that is about right |
| 06:59.16 | Thunder_Child | 1.6 is the standard |
| 07:01.13 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, mine by the way says the same thing about the very bad fit |
| 07:01.41 | Shirik | here's the error |
| 07:01.50 | Shirik | and sorry, it's 45 images |
| 07:01.51 | Shirik | not 35 |
| 07:02.34 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e3e89d86287910d2d150daefbf71f32b.png |
| 07:03.04 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, try 20 |
| 07:03.18 | Fisker | DEL BUENO |
| 07:03.21 | Thunder_Child | then try 21 |
| 07:03.51 | Shirik | way to misspell my name Fisker |
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| 07:04.24 | Thunder_Child | though you are correct, it can do HDR as well |
| 07:04.24 | Shirik | Thunder_Child it takes so long >< |
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| 07:05.03 | Shirik | Merging 5616x3744 pictures, even if it's only 20, takes a significant amount of time just to set up |
| 07:05.13 | Shirik | not to mention actually doing the stitching part that I still haven't gotten to |
| 07:05.41 | Shirik | And if it's simply an image count limit, then that doesn't really help me much to know WHAT the problem is :P |
| 07:05.47 | Shirik | more important is how to resolve it |
| 07:06.03 | Thunder_Child | well --maxmatches 20 suggests a limit of 20 to me |
| 07:06.23 | Shirik | I thought that was for control points, but I don't know :P |
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| 07:07.09 | Shirik | doesn't really make much sense for a command specifying a limit to be an argument and then breaking that limit in a later argument |
| 07:07.48 | Shirik | maybe I just need to do it in groups |
| 07:07.52 | Shirik | don't try to align all 45 at once |
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| 07:08.03 | Shirik | align, load, align, load, etc. |
| 07:08.11 | Thunder_Child | not a good thing |
| 07:08.16 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:08.18 | Thunder_Child | not if PS can doo them all at once |
| 07:08.22 | Shirik | agree |
| 07:08.35 | Shirik | right now I'm just kinda at the point of "well, why NOT do it in PS?" |
| 07:08.46 | Shirik | specifically, what benefits does hugin give you that PS doesn't |
| 07:08.58 | Thunder_Child | more controll |
| 07:09.04 | Shirik | yeah I was going to say that |
| 07:09.18 | Shirik | 20 failed btw |
| 07:09.31 | Thunder_Child | hmmm |
| 07:09.33 | Shirik | sorry, that was 21 |
| 07:09.36 | Shirik | 0-based indexing ftl |
| 07:10.04 | Thunder_Child | possibly a better algorithm as well |
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| 07:12.24 | Shirik | well I just recently learned nona/enblend are open source tools |
| 07:12.28 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:12.31 | Fisker | DEL BUENO |
| 07:12.41 | Shirik | that tends to be a Very Good Thing (tm) for math-heavy programs |
| 07:12.47 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 07:12.48 | Shirik | what time is it |
| 07:12.50 | Shirik | ~time |
| 07:12.51 | purl | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2009.08.17 7:12:51 GMT) |
| 07:12.57 | Shirik | ok that doesn't help me |
| 07:13.09 | Shirik | I just realized my clock's time zone is off, I'm sitting here thinking it's 2 and it's actually 3 |
| 07:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | it's about a quarter past midnight |
| 07:13.18 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 07:13.31 | Shirik | I really need to get to sleep |
| 07:13.33 | Thunder_Child | ~thetime |
| 07:13.37 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 07:13.41 | Shirik | ~ugt |
| 07:13.42 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 07:14.05 | Thunder_Child | stupid dst |
| 07:14.27 | Thunder_Child | 7 gmt -8 != my time |
| 07:14.49 | Shirik | 20 failed as well |
| 07:14.51 | Shirik | for real this time |
| 07:15.26 | Thunder_Child | huh, maybe it is the size of your images |
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| 07:17.39 | Shirik | anyway |
| 07:17.40 | Shirik | sleepy time now |
| 07:17.43 | Shirik | bai |
| 07:18.25 | Thunder_Child | night Shirik|zZz |
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| 07:24.26 | wsoul | Anyone knows how to bring back aggro bars with borders in DBM? |
| 07:25.40 | wsoul | DBM even |
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| 07:45.12 | Thunder_Child | knows that Fisker has a pocket full of sunshine |
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| 07:51.03 | Fisker | loves Thunder_Child irl |
| 07:52.19 | the-golem | whats DBM got to do with agro bars? |
| 07:57.16 | wsoul | Deadly boss mods |
| 07:57.53 | wsoul | I never used it before to be truthful, started with the older version, had aggro bars with borders whenever I join a party/raid |
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| 08:11.27 | the-golem | define agro bars |
| 08:13.11 | wsoul | i hope you're not trolling that early |
| 08:13.27 | wsoul | cause it sad if you are |
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| 08:21.38 | Gnarfoz | I doubt he is |
| 08:21.53 | Gnarfoz | because what the hell are aggro bars supposed to be? a threat meter? |
| 08:22.14 | Gnarfoz | if so, I doubt even DBM ever was asinine enough to incorporate that into a bossmod |
| 08:23.00 | wsoul | there was that in the previous release, with borders whatevr boss or adds etc |
| 08:23.36 | Gnarfoz | are you thinking of the hp bars for multi-npc boss fights? |
| 08:23.44 | Gnarfoz | (like Assembly of Iron, for example) |
| 08:24.35 | wsoul | o not hp bars mate, threat |
| 08:24.37 | Gnarfoz | (I don't use DBM except when raiders complain that it has stuff BigWigs doesn't, so I can compare) |
| 08:25.19 | wsoul | i should have taken a screenshot |
| 08:26.44 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 08:27.01 | Gnarfoz | I just got the latest alpha zip |
| 08:27.12 | Gnarfoz | searched all files for 'threat' and 'situation' |
| 08:27.25 | Gnarfoz | and the only occurance of 'threat' is in one of Flame Leviathans emotes |
| 08:27.27 | Gnarfoz | !api threat |
| 08:27.27 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'threat': UNIT_THREAT_LIST_UPDATE, UnitDetailedThreatSituation, UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE, GetThreatStatusColor, UnitThreatSituation, UnitIsTappedByAllThreatList, IsThreatWarningEnabled |
| 08:27.39 | Fisker | lol |
| 08:27.47 | Gnarfoz | it would need to have UnitDetailedThreatSituation() *somewhere* but it doesn't |
| 08:27.47 | Fisker | Blizzard pwns themselves in the no lan-argument |
| 08:28.06 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: do you have that link again, with 'blizzard replies to gamers petition' blablah from some hours ago? |
| 08:28.26 | Fisker | and lol |
| 08:28.29 | Fisker | more copy protection |
| 08:28.36 | Fisker | In order to install the game, "you need to connect once to install the game," StarCraft II lead designer Browder revealed. A player will also either have or sign up for a Battle.net account during the installation process. |
| 08:28.39 | Gnarfoz | next up: SC2 via Steam ;P |
| 08:28.40 | Fisker | lols |
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| 08:29.40 | wsoul | Gnarfoz: i douldn't find anything under /dbm |
| 08:30.19 | Gnarfoz | well, the addon doesn't use the API functions related to threat at all (in the latest alpha), so either it's gone or it never was there |
| 08:30.25 | wsoul | and for tanks, how would you know if you lost aggro/threat |
| 08:30.30 | Gnarfoz | what was your previous version? |
| 08:30.44 | wsoul | sec |
| 08:30.51 | Gnarfoz | uhm, even the default UI has two, no, three ways to determine that |
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| 08:31.19 | Gnarfoz | glowy nameplate/unitframe border, percentage display on the unitframe (if enabled), floating combat text "lost threat" popup |
| 08:31.26 | Gnarfoz | oh and number 4: target of target :) |
| 08:31.34 | Gnarfoz | besides: Omen :P |
| 08:32.25 | wsoul | where's that, normal ui? |
| 08:33.13 | wsoul | hmm |
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| 08:33.47 | wsoul | Deadly Boss Mods 4.22 |
| 08:33.55 | Wobin | tries the new github for lesbians |
| 08:33.58 | wsoul | that was the one i used |
| 08:34.08 | wsoul | VVobin =) |
| 08:36.32 | wsoul | Wobin: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 08:36.45 | wsoul | will change the winter ring for the one you can buy with triupmh emblems |
| 08:36.56 | wsoul | more armor and has def and dod |
| 08:37.58 | wsoul | had to replace the dalaran's bracers toi this one |
| 08:38.06 | wsoul | for expertise lost stamina though |
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| 08:39.55 | Wobin | expertise isn't really an issue unless you have threat maintenence problems |
| 08:40.04 | Wobin | stamina is always useful |
| 08:42.10 | wsoul | hmm |
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| 08:46.01 | wsoul | with dalas bracers/30 stamina gem on this ring |
| 08:46.06 | wsoul | i think i can hit 34 |
| 08:46.11 | wsoul | k unbuffed |
| 08:50.26 | wsoul | as in offspec, "frost" dps with dw |
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| 08:52.56 | Wobin | ohwait |
| 08:53.02 | Wobin | expertise as a tank or a dps? |
| 08:53.25 | Wobin | expertise is useful for dps |
| 08:55.07 | wsoul | expertise as a tank |
| 08:55.28 | wsoul | i thought i had to cap it to 26, deathknight.info forums |
| 08:55.31 | Wobin | stamina is more important imo, except in the above situation where you're having trouble with threat generation |
| 08:55.58 | Wobin | expertise only helps threat generation by your melee not being avoided. |
| 08:56.08 | wsoul | yeah |
| 08:56.10 | Wobin | as a tank, you're not there to cause damage, you're there to soak it |
| 08:56.19 | wsoul | 32316 isn't that bad |
| 08:56.28 | wsoul | legs i lack and trinkets |
| 08:56.35 | Wobin | So unless you're running with a lot of high threat gen raiders, you normally won't have too much trouble generating threat |
| 08:56.38 | wsoul | and i hate my def goes down when i had it 551 |
| 08:57.18 | wsoul | trying to get the legs from os25 now... never done voa1o/25, would be nice to get the t8 one too |
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| 09:05.14 | Wobin | hah |
| 09:05.16 | Wobin | spammer |
| 09:05.22 | Wobin | someone ban him? |
| 09:05.35 | Wobin | or something, he's going around posting a stupid game link |
| 09:09.54 | ReAn | who? |
| 09:11.18 | ReAn | wsoul: expertise also helps you not get parry-gibbed |
| 09:11.39 | ReAn | when a boss/mob parries your attack, it resets thier swing timer |
| 09:14.50 | _rane_ | sounds like a good thing |
| 09:16.11 | Dagmar | Just be glad there's not a riposte mechanic |
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| 09:21.29 | Wobin | ReAn: Parry gibbing isn't as much of an issue, really, unless you're trying DW tanking |
| 09:21.42 | Wobin | but yes, it helps |
| 09:22.26 | Dagmar | Actually, it would be more amusing if there was a riposte |
| 09:22.42 | Dagmar | No need to wait for the swing to complete, just *SMAK* |
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| 09:23.33 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:23.37 | Wobin | *swing* |
| 09:23.42 | Wobin | *parry-POIK!* |
| 09:23.46 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 09:23.51 | Dagmar | I think maybe it would be a bit much for a game tho |
| 09:24.05 | Dagmar | I mean, for an MMO, we're down to reacting in whole seconds now |
| 09:24.31 | Dagmar | Much more than that and it'll be Quake IV once the Cataclyzm happens |
| 09:24.46 | Dagmar | Only freaky asian kids with superhuman reflexes will be able to play |
| 09:24.52 | wsoul | wobin you know how to change the settings in omen |
| 09:24.58 | wsoul | everything hits/heals appear on my char |
| 09:25.41 | Dagmar | wsoul: Worst-case scenario you could just toss out it's saved variables files so it would revert to defaults |
| 09:27.47 | wsoul | it's fresh install |
| 09:27.52 | Dagmar | Whoa |
| 09:27.55 | wsoul | removed my interfacew folder before |
| 09:28.01 | Dagmar | That's weird |
| 09:28.07 | Dagmar | It generally magically does the right thing |
| 09:28.11 | wsoul | aye |
| 09:28.13 | wsoul | Hmm |
| 09:28.22 | wsoul | i remember me watching that vid from tankspot |
| 09:28.26 | Dagmar | scratches his head |
| 09:28.33 | wsoul | and he says something about that setting to make it appear the way it did |
| 09:28.55 | Dagmar | Mine's never shown anything but well, threat |
| 09:29.07 | Wobin | wsoul: omen? |
| 09:29.10 | Wobin | not recount? |
| 09:29.12 | wsoul | yeah |
| 09:29.12 | Dagmar | ...although I don't care for that it doesn't show me diddle until I start shooting now |
| 09:29.17 | wsoul | don't have recount |
| 09:29.24 | Wobin | maybe check what mode you're running in? |
| 09:29.32 | wsoul | you know like fighting a boss and all these numbers appears on your char |
| 09:29.43 | wsoul | Omen/DBM those too |
| 09:30.01 | Wobin | omen and DBM are two very different addons |
| 09:30.08 | wsoul | I know |
| 09:30.12 | Wobin | and those numbers could be the combat text Blizzard puts out |
| 09:30.29 | Dagmar | Combat text? |
| 09:30.32 | Dagmar | Oh wait |
| 09:30.42 | Dagmar | You're seeing numbers appear *on your toon* as you fight? |
| 09:31.06 | Dagmar | Dude that's Blizz's combat text and nothing to do with Omen if that's where you're seeing it |
| 09:31.13 | Dagmar | It's in tneir interface options |
| 09:31.50 | Dagmar | I just wish that the SCT mod would put the numbers on the mobs |
| 09:31.53 | wsoul | ok, will it be possible to make it appear on both sides left/right |
| 09:32.02 | Dagmar | SCT can do that |
| 09:32.10 | Dagmar | I don't think I've seen that level of complexity in the Blizz code for it |
| 09:32.23 | Dagmar | SCT can also make your screen become a nightmare of flying text spew. |
| 09:32.27 | Dagmar | You have been warned. |
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| 09:32.48 | wsoul | SCT? |
| 09:33.27 | wsoul | nm will check it later |
| 09:33.32 | Wobin | get MSBT |
| 09:33.43 | wsoul | what's MSBT/SCT :X |
| 09:33.44 | Wobin | and you can organise it however you wish |
| 09:33.59 | Wobin | It's a scrolling combat text mod |
| 09:34.03 | Wobin | that replaces the blizzard default |
| 09:34.25 | Dagmar | Wobin: Will it put damage done to mobs *on* the mobs? |
| 09:34.26 | wsoul | ah right |
| 09:34.43 | Wobin | no |
| 09:34.47 | Wobin | nothing can |
| 09:34.50 | Wobin | aside from Blizzard |
| 09:34.51 | Dagmar | That was the show stopper for me with SCT. Bummer |
| 09:35.17 | Wobin | It does consolidate aoe into a single line though |
| 09:35.19 | Wobin | which is nice |
| 09:35.41 | Wobin | "5749 damage! (30 Hits, 30 Crits)" |
| 09:35.51 | Wobin | er I missed a number in the first number |
| 09:35.54 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 09:35.54 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 09:36.09 | Dagmar | AoE work and most text displays go straight to hell |
| 09:36.10 | wsoul | Wobin: http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f206/41777-obsidian-sanctum-sartharion.html |
| 09:36.18 | wsoul | see his interface and combat text... like that |
| 09:36.22 | sacarasc | 30 hits and 30 crits doing under 6k damage means Wobin needs better gear. |
| 09:36.31 | Wobin | yeah |
| 09:36.32 | Dagmar | I can think of a few times where I just had a solid red streak about two inches wide going up the screen |
| 09:36.36 | Wobin | I meant something like 50kish |
| 09:37.14 | Wobin | wsoul: yeah, that's a SCT of some sort |
| 09:37.14 | Dagmar | that looks like SCT to me |
| 09:37.21 | Wobin | possibly Parrot, possibly MSBT |
| 09:37.27 | Dagmar | It does all that, arcs, etc, including icons |
| 09:37.30 | wsoul | name the addon plx =) |
| 09:37.31 | Wobin | they all can do that |
| 09:37.34 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:37.34 | Dagmar | SCT. |
| 09:37.38 | Wobin | wsoul: we already did =P |
| 09:37.41 | Wobin | MSBT |
| 09:37.44 | Dagmar | Seriously. Slap those letters into Curse already |
| 09:37.54 | wsoul | oh ok |
| 09:38.02 | Dagmar | It's not our fault stat freaks have NO imagination when it comes to names. |
| 09:38.25 | Wobin | hehe Mikk'sScrollingBattleText |
| 09:38.32 | Wobin | at least ckknight called his Parrot |
| 09:38.53 | Wobin | but really, those addons came out before 'cool' names were the popular choice |
| 09:39.07 | Wobin | (ie, before I started naming things =P) |
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| 09:39.43 | wsoul | the SCT screenshot looks like the one i just lined |
| 09:39.44 | wsoul | the vid |
| 09:40.07 | Dagmar | Yes, well, that might have something to do with the fact that it's the addon he's using |
| 09:40.52 | Wobin | MSBT can also do the same thing =P |
| 09:40.52 | Wobin | (am I repeating myself, or am I repeating myself? =P) |
| 09:40.52 | Dagmar | Let me assure you that his SCT config (the guy on Tankspot) came about because he beat the heck out of it to get it to a reasonable level of information |
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| 09:41.19 | Dagmar | Wobin: Except I'm pretty sure they're using SCT because I think I remember them mentioning it on the podcast. ;) |
| 09:41.30 | Dagmar | But yeah MSBT is just too many letters to type |
| 09:41.37 | Dagmar | It makes my hands tired just thinking about it. |
| 09:42.17 | Wobin | yeah but MSBT is awesomer |
| 09:42.20 | Dagmar | heh |
| 09:42.26 | Wobin | cause Battle is much more fun than Combat =) |
| 09:42.35 | Dagmar | I found something interesting called "Watcher" yesterday |
| 09:42.43 | Wobin | Does it... watch? |
| 09:42.50 | Dagmar | Better, it watches and listens |
| 09:43.17 | Wobin | what? |
| 09:43.19 | Dagmar | It's a faceroller app |
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| 09:43.21 | Dagmar | Well, sort of |
| 09:44.04 | Dagmar | I'll explain in a sec I gotta show someone out |
| 09:44.13 | Dagmar | What it tells me for sure is that I need to pick a shot to leave off |
| 09:44.22 | Dagmar | Too many buttons to press |
| 09:47.10 | Vilkku | guys, on a clean wow install, what folders/files are in the wow directory? |
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| 09:48.23 | Vilkku | just wdb and data? (3.x) |
| 09:49.11 | Dagmar | That sounds like a clever question. |
| 09:49.12 | Dagmar | This is bad. |
| 09:49.21 | Dagmar | What problem are you actually trying to solve? |
| 09:50.02 | nevcairiel | that should be all it needs, all other folders are filled with defaults, although i'm not sure if it actually creates them during setup, or on first launch |
| 09:50.31 | Vilkku | actually, I read wdb is not "needed" either, as it's recreated if it's missing |
| 09:50.33 | Dagmar | Cache is disposable. Fonts is generally empty. Errors the same. Interface is disposable, logs is disposable, patches is disposable, screenshots lol, updates.. disposable |
| 09:50.44 | Vilkku | yeah |
| 09:50.45 | Dagmar | wdb here contains all of ONE file. |
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| 09:50.50 | Dagmar | It's about thirty bytes or something. |
| 09:50.53 | Vilkku | trying to create a "minimalistic" wow install |
| 09:50.56 | Dagmar | Not particularly important bytes either |
| 09:51.09 | Dagmar | You'll need to buy the 16Gb flash drive |
| 09:51.13 | Dagmar | I've been down that road |
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| 09:51.17 | Vilkku | I got a 16GB flash drive :P |
| 09:51.26 | Vilkku | I just don't want wow to take all space on it |
| 09:51.29 | Dagmar | Ah then you're more or less set |
| 09:51.41 | Dagmar | dude, can't be done as far as I know |
| 09:51.48 | Dagmar | You do *not* want the cache file to croak |
| 09:52.13 | Vilkku | um, my cache is only 5MB anyway |
| 09:52.16 | Vilkku | on my desktop wow install |
| 09:52.33 | Dagmar | Still, let's say you hit the screenshot key a few times by mistake |
| 09:52.42 | Dagmar | Paint a horde logo on the thumbdrive and call it a day |
| 09:52.49 | Vilkku | :P |
| 09:52.58 | Vilkku | it's an SD card actually |
| 09:53.05 | Dagmar | Awesome. |
| 09:53.15 | Dagmar | Much more space for artwork |
| 09:53.40 | Vilkku | \o/ |
| 09:53.40 | Dagmar | I would have done that but they didn't have them in that size for anything like a reasonable price when I went down that road |
| 09:54.02 | Dagmar | So I've got a little thumbdrive with a hunter logo on it. :) |
| 09:55.10 | Dagmar | The data directory is pretty much the only one you have to keep, but the rest *will* grow |
| 09:55.50 | Vilkku | I guess it's givning it a clean start more than anything |
| 09:56.34 | Dagmar | Well, if you're like me and you have more disk space than sense (thanks PVR project!) you can just image the thing |
| 09:56.43 | Dagmar | If something goes wrong it becomes trivial to restore |
| 09:57.19 | Dagmar | You'll also want to pay careful attention around patch times |
| 09:57.35 | Dagmar | THere's nothign more fun than realizing the background downloader afoot |
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| 09:58.08 | Dagmar | Wobin: Basically, you plonk your priorities into Watcher, and it gives you a chute that icons come floating down on |
| 09:58.17 | olafski | on a related note, where does wow store the patches? I get the feeling all the patches I've run are still on my PC somewhere but I don't see them ;p |
| 09:58.23 | Dagmar | You can even have it put the keybind on said icons in ultra-large Impact font |
| 09:58.43 | Dagmar | They'll be in the Patches directory |
| 09:58.45 | olafski | sounds like difficult gameplay ;) |
| 09:58.53 | Dagmar | ...and probably lying around the root directory for WoW as well |
| 09:59.02 | Dagmar | olafski: Well, it illuminates a problem |
| 09:59.04 | olafski | no such directory here |
| 09:59.29 | Dagmar | To max out DPS you either get to memorize a hideous number sequence like unto typing in 300 digits of pi during an encounter, or... |
| 09:59.39 | Dagmar | You drop a shot from the setup so you can actually pay attention |
| 10:00.02 | olafski | would be fun if the optimal rotation actually was Pi wouldn't it :) |
| 10:00.18 | Dagmar | You could probably spec and glyph for something like that |
| 10:00.30 | olafski | Glyph of Pi |
| 10:01.01 | Dagmar | I can do it by counting cooldowns, and I can do it by watching my icons, and I can do it with watcher, but what I can't freakign to is really *see* anything going on unless I take the "memorize absurdly long string" |
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| 10:01.23 | olafski | guess I have it easy as a DK then :P |
| 10:01.32 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm lazy on my dk |
| 10:01.50 | olafski | I know what to do in any situation, so I guess it's a priority thing |
| 10:01.56 | olafski | but never felt the need for an addon for it |
| 10:01.56 | Dagmar | I specced so things turn into death runes just because it means that sometimes I just get to go "wham whamwhamwham" with whatever I like. :) |
| 10:02.33 | olafski | just wham wham the best ability you have ;P |
| 10:02.33 | Dagmar | Well, when you can't run out of runes, but you've got a lot of buttons, it becomes a matter of always hitting somethign every 1.5 seconds. |
| 10:02.39 | olafski | death strike in my case |
| 10:02.41 | Dagmar | ...and a few instants besides |
| 10:02.50 | olafski | yarp that's what I do ofc ;p |
| 10:03.01 | Dagmar | There's never a wham-wham-wham moment for hunters |
| 10:03.15 | Dagmar | At most you get to fire steady shot three times in a row, sometimes |
| 10:03.29 | olafski | IT PS DS HS HS, DS DS DS, DS DS HS HS |
| 10:03.33 | olafski | that's what I do I guess :P |
| 10:03.42 | olafski | with some situational death coils and dancing rune weapon / hysteria |
| 10:03.43 | Dagmar | Yeah, that's totally doable on the dk |
| 10:05.05 | Dagmar | Even BM at the moment is more like Serp, AiS, AS, SS, SS, SS, AS, AiS, SS, SS, AS, SS, SS, Serp and it just kinda devolves into chaos from there |
| 10:05.43 | Dagmar | All with long cooldowns of differing times with steady shot as filler |
| 10:05.52 | olafski | so you memorize the priority |
| 10:05.54 | Wobin | ugh |
| 10:05.59 | Wobin | MM is painful on cooldowns |
| 10:06.01 | Dagmar | Which is a sequence of about 100 shots |
| 10:06.07 | Dagmar | ...not funny. |
| 10:06.33 | wsoul | Wobin: any / commands SCT |
| 10:06.47 | Wobin | no idea =) I don't use SCT |
| 10:07.04 | wsoul | ah yes, /sct menu |
| 10:07.05 | Dagmar | just /sct config I think |
| 10:07.41 | Dagmar | I think I'm just going to be going with the loldps Serp, AS, Steadyx3 until burst is called for |
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| 10:08.21 | Dagmar | That one I can keep up during the Safety Dance. :) |
| 10:08.44 | Dagmar | It's fun to tease people about why their DPS drops in there |
| 10:08.46 | Dagmar | heh |
| 10:10.32 | wsoul | animation type isn't it? |
| 10:12.06 | Dagmar | Yes you can set where each class of thing appears, and which way they go, if anywhere, once they appear |
| 10:12.13 | Dagmar | That's the bit that'll drive you mad |
| 10:12.37 | wsoul | just hits for a start ?= |
| 10:13.16 | wsoul | =) |
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| 10:15.55 | Dagmar | Somewhere, there's probably a little asian child who can watch all of that and tell you average DPS and totals done in realtime |
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| 10:16.42 | Dagmar | I made the foolish mistake of telling SCT to show me way too much, which worked fine until I walked into VoA |
| 10:16.58 | olafski | I have it set to defaults :< |
| 10:17.05 | olafski | moved the frames a bit though |
| 10:17.34 | Dagmar | You'll want to hunt down test locations like Mr. Boom where you can cause a lot of numbers at once |
| 10:17.55 | Dagmar | er... maybe it's Dr. Boom. I'm never close enough to read nameplates. |
| 10:18.05 | olafski | dr boom :P |
| 10:18.17 | olafski | no names on your target frame? |
| 10:18.23 | Dagmar | Those mana wyrms in Magister's Terrace are another cool place |
| 10:18.35 | Dagmar | olafski: I never look up there long enough to read |
| 10:18.39 | Adys | the bombardment in IC |
| 10:18.40 | olafski | mkay oO |
| 10:19.09 | Dagmar | I mean I *could* sit there and stare at the unit frame, but ther'es no _useful_ data up there other than health |
| 10:19.10 | olafski | bombardment.. aren't we talking about incoming damage? |
| 10:19.32 | Dagmar | If you start taking serious amounts of incoming damage, like enough to make SCT spam you, hehehe |
| 10:19.33 | Adys | pull 10000 mobs and watch over your incoming damage, yea |
| 10:19.35 | Dagmar | That problem solves itself. |
| 10:19.42 | olafski | okay :P |
| 10:20.03 | Dagmar | As far as target health is concerned, I've just got a bar and an absolute number up there for trivia |
| 10:20.06 | olafski | I figured a bombardment is something where you shoot stuff from a plane, didn't know the actual location you're talking about |
| 10:20.12 | Dagmar | "He's still alive? Check..." |
| 10:20.19 | olafski | sounds like a hunter alright dagmar :P |
| 10:20.45 | Dagmar | Seriosuly, what good does it do to know exactly what the target's HP is? |
| 10:21.00 | Dagmar | It's not useful during a fight, so I don't waste my eyes on it |
| 10:21.18 | Dagmar | Either the target's dead or I'm about to be. |
| 10:21.28 | Dagmar | The solution? More bullets! |
| 10:21.34 | olafski | guess my raid leading has got me to desiring more information |
| 10:21.43 | olafski | I like to know at how much HP we wipe to see if we're making progress for instance :P |
| 10:21.57 | olafski | and I like to know target mana, debuffs/buffs etc |
| 10:21.59 | Dagmar | Hence the absolute number |
| 10:22.30 | Dagmar | Yeah since they took the dispel out of Arcane Shot there's another thing I've got no use for. *sigh* |
| 10:22.43 | Dagmar | I make sunder nice and big tho. :) |
| 10:22.44 | olafski | lol.. dispel is in tranq shot |
| 10:22.51 | Kalroth | The targets total health is useful if you want to know how much raid DPS is needed to take it down |
| 10:22.57 | olafski | that too |
| 10:23.30 | Dagmar | Damn they gotta quit giving us back things they took away |
| 10:23.42 | Kalroth | which is very relevant on fights like Algalon, where the enrage timer can be a problem for some |
| 10:23.52 | Dagmar | WEll, I guess I get to go back to having my gf cuss me for dispelling something she wanted to steal |
| 10:23.56 | olafski | I dunno how long tranq shot has had dispel but it has to be quite a long time :P |
| 10:24.12 | Dagmar | It used to just nullify enrages |
| 10:24.17 | olafski | in vanilla? |
| 10:24.20 | Dagmar | Literally a tranquilizer |
| 10:24.36 | Adys | tranq shot dispells since 3.0 or something |
| 10:24.38 | Dagmar | Through at least part of Outlands I thought |
| 10:24.39 | Adys | maybe 2.4 |
| 10:24.43 | Adys | outland |
| 10:24.55 | olafski | ah, it's been dispelling since 3.0.2 (2008-10-14) |
| 10:24.56 | Adys | arcane shot used to have a dispel since 2.x but that was too OP |
| 10:24.58 | Adys | so they moved it |
| 10:25.03 | Dagmar | I'd given up on it ebcause it seemed like thye wanted to just take that out of the hunter arsenal |
| 10:25.13 | olafski | it still works on enrage too |
| 10:25.15 | olafski | nice in some heroics |
| 10:25.22 | Dagmar | Yeah, I see someone turn big and red I smack that button |
| 10:25.31 | olafski | :} |
| 10:25.39 | olafski | wonder if I can just macro it into every move I have |
| 10:25.47 | olafski | since it doesn't work if there's nothing to dispel (I think) |
| 10:25.51 | Dagmar | It doesn't |
| 10:26.33 | olafski | gotta try that |
| 10:26.35 | Dagmar | Might not want to try to put it in a macro tho |
| 10:26.45 | Dagmar | "Attempts" is an ugly word |
| 10:26.48 | olafski | it's nice in say.. UK (or was it UP?) with the mobs that shield themselves |
| 10:26.50 | Dagmar | "Attempts to remove 1 Enrage and 1 Magic effect from an enemy target. |
| 10:27.29 | olafski | hmm yeah.. purge and dispel magic are without the attempting |
| 10:27.30 | Dagmar | Dispels used to be the reason to use Arcane Shot because otherwise it's damage for mana was milquetoast |
| 10:27.32 | olafski | maybe it doesn't work :P |
| 10:27.41 | Dagmar | ...but you could easily piss away mana with it |
| 10:28.35 | Dagmar | You wouldn't want to macro in something you couldn't change in a hurry if the thing fired because there was an effect there, but you couldn't remove it |
| 10:29.01 | olafski | hence why I said "if it only works when there is something to dispel I will macro it" |
| 10:29.16 | Dagmar | it will work when ther'es something to dispel that it can't dispel |
| 10:29.22 | olafski | you sure? |
| 10:29.31 | olafski | dispel magic doesn't do that |
| 10:29.31 | Dagmar | This I know from having tried to chill out mobs that were inconsolable |
| 10:29.48 | olafski | I'm thinking it either always just fires or it doesn't fire when it can't dispel anything |
| 10:30.14 | Dagmar | It won't fire when there's nothing to dispel |
| 10:30.32 | olafski | I'll just try it myself then |
| 10:30.32 | Dagmar | I smack it when things turn red, and I know they're not enraged by the fact that it won't fire |
| 10:30.52 | olafski | sigh :P |
| 10:33.25 | Dagmar | I wonder... PB4 might know for sure which things are really dispellable by that |
| 10:34.27 | olafski | I'll just go and have a look what happens on a dummy |
| 10:34.34 | Dagmar | Not a bad idea |
| 10:35.47 | olafski | shame, it doesn't work |
| 10:35.49 | Dagmar | ...but I don't think it'll fire on the dummy |
| 10:36.05 | olafski | which is what I wanted to know |
| 10:36.24 | olafski | it doesn't fire if there is nothing to dispel, but apparently it does incur a slight cooldown which means I can't macro it to all of my actions |
| 10:36.41 | Dagmar | I would assume it triggers the GCD |
| 10:36.48 | olafski | it does, IF it fires |
| 10:36.56 | olafski | I'll just stick to hitting it manually |
| 10:37.04 | Dagmar | Yeah, and if it fires and fails, it's still zero damage |
| 10:37.16 | olafski | ok I give up |
| 10:37.20 | Dagmar | Yeah that's what I'm saying. That's one to be hit manually |
| 10:37.22 | olafski | back to studies, nevermind :) |
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| 10:52.46 | wsoul | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f206/41777-obsidian-sanctum-sartharion.html |
| 10:53.02 | wsoul | Dagmar: check the video, not sure if SCT has it |
| 10:53.42 | olafski | that looks like sct |
| 10:53.53 | wsoul | SCT FRames |
| 10:53.59 | wsoul | have it on rainbow |
| 10:54.06 | wsoul | alternating |
| 10:54.23 | olafski | don't think it's alternating |
| 10:54.31 | olafski | hm maybe it is |
| 10:54.40 | olafski | seems like most 'green text' is on the left and yellow on the right |
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| 10:54.51 | olafski | so it looks splitted a bit, maybe frame 1 left and frame 2 right |
| 10:56.41 | wsoul | ah you're right |
| 10:57.00 | wsoul | just need to get it upper a bit |
| 10:57.09 | wsoul | text center y position |
| 10:57.18 | wsoul | on both frames right? |
| 10:59.17 | olafski | yer |
| 10:59.35 | wsoul | i just want it to be the one in vid |
| 10:59.36 | olafski | and possible change center X too if you want the circle to leave some more space around your char |
| 10:59.48 | wsoul | was covering my char in to instances couldn't see a thing |
| 11:00.19 | olafski | I have frame 1 on about 25% of the width of my screen and frame 2 on 75%, then the text just falling downwards |
| 11:00.31 | olafski | but I have to say it's just eyecandy, I never really look at it |
| 11:00.54 | wsoul | X is on 110 y 190 on both frames |
| 11:00.58 | wsoul | yesh i like it |
| 11:01.52 | wsoul | yeah* |
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| 11:36.11 | purl | shadowed <n=outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 36m 24s ago, saying: 'that would be awesome'. |
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| 12:12.59 | mikma | dolby / cairenn|afk : i found a tpyo in wowinterface, in "Change Log" section when editing addon info: "Enter your change log here. The best pratice is to put the latest updates at the top." <- Pratice |
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| 12:17.16 | Adys | you found a tpyo mikma? |
| 12:17.45 | mikma | adys: ye |
| 12:17.53 | Adys | grats. |
| 12:18.04 | mikma | thanks \o/ |
| 12:19.56 | Fisker | o/o mikma |
| 12:22.46 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:23.05 | mikma | trollslap! |
| 12:23.11 | mikma | or! trollfive! |
| 12:23.16 | Fisker | :3! |
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| 14:20.55 | zenzelezz | huggles Lopeppeppy vigorously |
| 14:22.24 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzelezz, and happy Monday |
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| 14:41.49 | ZorbaGama | man it is just impossible to get people to stop sending emails to any old email they find |
| 14:42.29 | foxlit | autoreply with "wrong email address, dood!" and don't read them. |
| 14:42.58 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:43.09 | Fisker | autoreply with the server template for unknown user |
| 14:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | Replying just gives them hope. |
| 14:44.48 | ZorbaGama | I just ignore 'em, I only see them when I check my data dump address |
| 14:52.04 | Shirik | hi Lopeppeppy |
| 14:52.19 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Shirik! How's your summer wrapping up? |
| 14:52.25 | Shirik | I'm already headed home |
| 14:52.31 | Shirik | trying to do an online backup though |
| 14:52.37 | Shirik | and it is taking forever |
| 14:52.40 | Shirik | uploading 80GB sucks |
| 14:52.57 | Shirik | I should have picked one of the companies that lets me send physical media to them |
| 14:53.13 | Shirik | But you really can't beat unlimited $4.95/mo |
| 14:54.16 | Lopeppeppy | Next time, you'll know better and weigh your options, but yeah, 5 bucks a month isn't bad. |
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| 14:56.58 | Shirik | actually, this company is one of the top rated |
| 14:57.14 | Lopeppeppy | Still, uploading 80G sucks. |
| 14:57.15 | Shirik | the only flaw I can see so far is the lack of physical media backups |
| 14:57.31 | Shirik | Well, once I get synced with them, it should be a lot better, because it only does incremental backups |
| 14:57.36 | Shirik | it's just this initial work that's really going to suck |
| 14:59.39 | Shirik | wow... |
| 14:59.48 | Shirik | this company stores more than 10 petabytes of data |
| 14:59.55 | Shirik | that's a lot of backups >.> |
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| 15:28.18 | Shirik | does Windows 7 come with teh ability to burn DVDs or do I need some software |
| 15:28.55 | Lopeppeppy | XP has the native ability to burn files to CD, as long as you have a drive to do it... I can't imagine they took it out of 7... but they might have.... |
| 15:29.02 | Lopeppeppy | Copy, paste, write, fun. |
| 15:29.03 | Shirik | what about dvd though |
| 15:29.43 | Stanzilla | it can do that |
| 15:29.55 | Stanzilla | it can even write isos now |
| 15:30.03 | nicoli_s | really? sweet |
| 15:30.15 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 15:32.28 | Arrowmaster | probably does a shitty job though |
| 15:37.49 | Shirik | how can you do a shitty job of writing an ISO |
| 15:38.15 | Lopeppeppy | The same way you do a poor job at anything. Just don't care. |
| 15:39.15 | Shirik | but like |
| 15:39.18 | Shirik | it's either an ISO or it's not |
| 15:39.23 | Shirik | there's no "crappy ISO" |
| 15:39.26 | Lopeppeppy | Not all ISO's are equal. |
| 15:39.50 | Lopeppeppy | It is always possible to create something that's poorly done, and causes problems. Except for my chocolate chip cookies. |
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| 15:52.22 | olafski | does anyone still use titanpanel? I'm having trouble with a lot of addons that use broker (and I believe titan should be able to display these?) |
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| 15:53.53 | Lopeppeppy | Haven't used either titan or fubar in a long time... |
| 15:54.05 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: What do you use? |
| 15:55.37 | Lopeppeppy | SL data text, displayed on a kgpanel. |
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| 16:15.36 | kenthree | how would I increase font size in a button? |
| 16:16.09 | Beutju | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontInstance_SetFont |
| 16:16.37 | Beutju | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Button |
| 16:17.06 | kenthree | oh thanks, i searched on wowwiki but it returned every single page |
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| 16:23.39 | Fisker | http://www.xkcd.com/ <-lulz |
| 16:24.50 | Arrowmaster | you get the first one even with adblock |
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| 16:28.46 | Duman | hrm |
| 16:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | "Most people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Programmers think that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet." |
| 16:34.36 | nicoli_s | lol, i like that one |
| 16:38.37 | Elusive | That seems to be the design philosophy of Windows |
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| 16:40.22 | kenthree | they're applying a strange business model for an OS thats for sure |
| 16:40.46 | Elusive | Have you tried out Windows 7? |
| 16:41.02 | kenthree | not yet |
| 16:41.03 | augustl | Windows 7 is awesome! |
| 16:41.36 | kenthree | honestly vista basic has worked fine for me, not sure why people complain |
| 16:42.34 | Lopeppeppy | I neither like nor dislike my Vista laptop. I just install everything on the root drive and life stays good. |
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| 16:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | re: xkcd: http://www.google.com/trends/hottrends?q=github&date=2009-8-17&sa=X |
| 16:47.39 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
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| 16:54.07 | Lopeppeppy | Also, http://xkcd.com/281/ |
| 16:54.13 | Adys | Which tree is the great tree in crystalsong? |
| 16:54.56 | Adys | rofl ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:54.59 | Adys | elated searches: |
| 16:54.59 | Adys | rss m, github wiki, google reader |
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| 17:03.12 | Jelly_ | Anyone use GroupCalendar? |
| 17:03.26 | mikma | is there a way i can find "duplacated data" from tables? in this case, if same data exists in different UnitGUID |
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| 17:05.23 | Duman | yo sixen |
| 17:06.22 | Sixen | Sup! |
| 17:06.30 | Cruciformer | Shirik: ping |
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| 17:11.56 | p3lim | Did blizzard remove the color table used commonly with UnitReaction() ? |
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| 17:22.07 | Cruciformer | wow irsii doesnt seem to like ^Z too much |
| 17:22.25 | durcyn | Cruciformer: that'd be screen more than irssi |
| 17:22.50 | Cruciformer | durcyn: I and ^Z out of vim to my heart's content in screen |
| 17:22.55 | Cruciformer | *and=can |
| 17:23.30 | Cruciformer | but yeah some combination of the two does not make for happy cruci |
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| 17:24.19 | Cruciformer | If Shirik pong'ed I missed it |
| 17:25.01 | Cruciformer | or is there any one else using a canon camera on? |
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| 17:31.48 | p3lim6270 | Did blizzard remove the color table used commonly with UnitReaction() ? |
| 17:32.03 | NeoTron | so Champions NDA gone. anyone played the beta? :P |
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| 17:32.42 | Shirik | rawr |
| 17:32.46 | Shirik | huggles Cairenn |
| 17:32.53 | Cairenn | smoogles Shirik |
| 17:32.58 | Shirik | smoogles? |
| 17:33.05 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:33.22 | Cairenn | smooch & huggle |
| 17:33.41 | zenzelezz | was about to suggest smothering and oogling |
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| 17:34.30 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:34.31 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:34.47 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
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| 17:35.06 | VonhintenHOME` | That's just mean |
| 17:35.15 | VonhintenHOME` | What did that large trout ever do to you |
| 17:35.20 | Cairenn | whoever told you I was nice? |
| 17:35.45 | VonhintenHOME` | You don't just go around slapping fish with douchebags |
| 17:36.30 | Lopeppeppy | Gets way too messy |
| 17:37.11 | Thunder_Child | you did Cairenn |
| 17:37.25 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:38.01 | Thunder_Child | you also said you were innocent and 'pure as the driven-on snow' |
| 17:38.18 | Shirik | ha |
| 17:38.51 | Cairenn | :p |
| 17:43.01 | Vilkku | right, I asked this before but got no answer then: what's the best way to get your afk message? simply register the appropriate event and watch it, or is there a function to get it? |
| 17:43.59 | Cruciformer | Oh good shirik is back |
| 17:44.10 | Shirik | sorta |
| 17:44.10 | Shirik | why |
| 17:44.18 | Cruciformer | http://unix42.com/fuzzy.jpg |
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| 17:44.38 | Cruciformer | take a look at that and tell me the picture on the left isnt slightly out of focus |
| 17:44.59 | Cruciformer | (yes itsmuch higher res coz its a 1dsmk3 and the one on the right is only a 30d, but the focus is the issue. |
| 17:45.55 | Cruciformer | specifically the high-contrast text on the liquilax bottle, which is where the focus point of both cameras was. |
| 17:46.45 | Shirik | on a very slow connection right now fyi |
| 17:46.52 | Shirik | well, slow because I'm doing a lot of uploading |
| 17:47.07 | Cruciformer | k its not a HUGE image but not small either |
| 17:47.26 | Cruciformer | best if viewed as big as you can, shows the problem more. |
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| 17:48.08 | Shirik | it's definitely out of focus |
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| 17:48.33 | Elusive | Yeah that one on the left is out of focus. |
| 17:48.35 | Cruciformer | odd isnt it? Considering the high contrast you'd think it would have a piss-easy time focusing |
| 17:48.45 | Elusive | Well it depends on what you're focusing at. |
| 17:48.56 | Cruciformer | and canon insists there is nothing wrong with the camera |
| 17:49.01 | Elusive | It's sort of focused at the point of that green thing |
| 17:49.07 | Elusive | but the other one has everything more in focus |
| 17:49.12 | Cruciformer | Elusive: the word "Adco" |
| 17:49.28 | Shirik | I agree it looked like it focused on the back of the green can |
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| 17:49.50 | Shirik | are you choosing the AF spot? |
| 17:50.15 | Cruciformer | ironically, with that shot, yes. I chose center focus point only, and pointed it right at the word adco. |
| 17:50.31 | Cruciformer | it gets even whackier if Ihave all AF points on and let it chose. |
| 17:51.33 | Cruciformer | altho that image does show the difference between more vs less megapixels on teh lid of the green bottle and the hot chocolate bottle |
| 17:52.31 | Cruciformer | Im busy having a big fight with Canon. I may finally have found the right person to help but we will see. they insist they did "benchmark calibration and everything is fine". |
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| 17:53.04 | Shirik | did you try sending them this picture? |
| 17:53.07 | Cruciformer | I just wanted to make sure *I* wasnt on crack thinking it wasn't focusing propperly. |
| 17:53.40 | Shirik | Send them the raws imo, and make sure your camera is including the AF point in the data |
| 17:53.45 | Cruciformer | I didnt have a side-by-side one like this I sent them the two indivual ones last time. |
| 17:53.47 | Shirik | be like "now what bitches" |
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| 17:54.08 | Cruciformer | yeah I originally sent them the raws and they said they cant see anything wrong with the picture. |
| 17:54.12 | Shirik | you may even wish to record the original decision data |
| 17:54.25 | Cruciformer | record the what now? |
| 17:54.54 | Shirik | At least my camera (you have a 1ds, so yours should too) has the ability to record additional data with the image to provide like a signature |
| 17:55.01 | Shirik | which verifies that the image hasn't been altered |
| 17:55.19 | Shirik | it's one of the cfns |
| 17:55.48 | Cruciformer | oh you talking about the secure image stuff? |
| 17:56.20 | Cruciformer | Not sure if mine has that built in or if I need something extra. Perhaps the extra is only for geotagging securely. I'll look into it. |
| 17:56.46 | Shirik | I think it should |
| 17:56.53 | Shirik | I don't see why a 5d would have a feature the 1ds does not |
| 17:57.05 | Shirik | the video is more of a marketing thing imo |
| 17:57.06 | Cruciformer | 5dmk2 later than 1ds mk3 : |
| 17:57.22 | Shirik | true |
| 17:58.49 | alestane | So, random question: |
| 17:59.12 | alestane | Anyone have a pair of 512Mb or 1Gb DDR2 SODIMMS they'd bee willing to charitably donate? |
| 17:59.20 | Shirik | It appears you should have it, Cruciformer |
| 17:59.26 | Shirik | "it was introduced with the EOS-1ds" |
| 17:59.30 | Shirik | "in 2002" |
| 17:59.53 | Cruciformer | ah ok I'll have to see how to enable it |
| 17:59.59 | Cruciformer | time to RTFM |
| 18:00.30 | Cruciformer | btw there's rumours the 4d will be a fixed pellicle camera |
| 18:01.45 | the-golem | NeoTron: I did |
| 18:02.18 | Shirik | Cruciformer: I thought you were just using microadjust |
| 18:02.21 | NeoTron | quick one line review? sucks, great, has potential, needs work? :P |
| 18:02.22 | Shirik | is that insufficient? |
| 18:02.37 | NeoTron | I have the beta ($5 preorder is a fair price to test the beta before bying, to me) |
| 18:02.43 | Cruciformer | Shirik: I completely reset the camera and got rid of all micro-adjust. |
| 18:03.13 | Shirik | are you sure it's not the lens at fault? |
| 18:03.15 | Cruciformer | the sme lense on a 1d mk3, another 1ds mk 3 and a 30d do not exhibit the same problem. |
| 18:03.17 | Shirik | or is that the same lens in both pictures |
| 18:03.27 | Cruciformer | same lens. |
| 18:03.49 | Shirik | Your problem is obviously that it has not been used on a 5D, so it hates you |
| 18:04.00 | Cruciformer | clearly :) |
| 18:04.08 | Cruciformer | wanna gimme yours? :P |
| 18:04.20 | Cruciformer | i'll return it ... one day. I swear. |
| 18:04.53 | Shirik | ha |
| 18:05.20 | Cruciformer | Shirik: Also re micro-adjust. I think considering what I paid for the body and the lenses I have a reasonable expectation to not need to use microadjust for every single lens. |
| 18:05.31 | Shirik | of course |
| 18:05.46 | Cruciformer | if it was just one lens I could live with it but it is every single lens |
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| 18:05.57 | Cruciformer | except for the 85mm prime |
| 18:07.10 | Cruciformer | anyway thanks for verifying I am not, in fact, on crack and that it is soft-focusing. |
| 18:07.21 | Cruciformer | or back-focusing is my personal suspicion. |
| 18:07.22 | Shirik | I haven't been using AF much lately tbh |
| 18:07.52 | Cruciformer | didnt you have a slight front or back focusing issue with yours too? |
| 18:08.54 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 18:08.55 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:09.01 | Shirik | wow that is incredibly confusing |
| 18:09.24 | Shirik | I'm on the internet through my blackberry, call comes in, internet gets suspended but remains connected until I end the call |
| 18:09.47 | Shirik | anyway, no, I don't think mine misfocuses |
| 18:09.55 | Shirik | I just think the 5D does not have sufficient AF points to give me the control I want |
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| 18:10.28 | Cruciformer | ah |
| 18:10.48 | Cruciformer | I thought that one pic u posted of a waterlilly was slightly front-focused |
| 18:11.14 | Shirik | I would have to see again :P |
| 18:11.28 | Shirik | but I think it was probably because of focusing to the wrong place |
| 18:11.41 | Cruciformer | ah ok |
| 18:12.54 | Cruciformer | well thanks again for your time I'm off to continue hacking up my website. |
| 18:13.00 | Cruciformer | css is fun :) |
| 18:14.11 | Shirik | you have a very strange definition of "fun" |
| 18:14.19 | Lopeppeppy | Pot calling kettle, dear? |
| 18:14.27 | Cruciformer | 'twould not be the first time I was accused of that. |
| 18:14.52 | Cruciformer | but it *IS* fun ... instant gratification. make a change, see the result. |
| 18:15.46 | Shirik | wtf is "pot calling kettle" |
| 18:16.03 | Cruciformer | "Pot calling the kettle black" |
| 18:16.03 | Lopeppeppy | Your definition of fun is sometimes strange too. :) |
| 18:16.05 | Cairenn | it's like the pot calling the kettle black |
| 18:16.15 | Shirik | what does that mean |
| 18:16.31 | Cruciformer | surely you jest? |
| 18:16.53 | Cruciformer | I can never tell when shirik is trolling :) |
| 18:17.06 | Shirik | I'm not :( |
| 18:17.12 | Lopeppeppy | Me either today. Shirik, you know I adore you. *hug* |
| 18:17.16 | zenzelezz | he just doesn't know any better |
| 18:17.40 | Cruciformer | a black pot is calling the black kettle black. It means simply that you comment on some characteristic of someone's that you share. |
| 18:18.11 | Shirik | oh |
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| 18:18.24 | Lopeppeppy | Hi Gryphon! |
| 18:18.32 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 18:18.36 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
| 18:18.41 | alestane | Comes from a time when the kettle was hung over the fire, so it was always black with soot...but the pot was not only coated in soot, it was cast-iron to boot. |
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| 18:21.09 | Duman | often means you're being hypocritical ;) |
| 18:21.20 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 18:22.24 | alestane | Right, the pot is at least as black as the kettle he's criticizing. |
| 18:24.31 | Cairenn | and (at least in my family) frequently stated as "Hi Mr. Pot, I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle." |
| 18:25.14 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 18:25.21 | Shirik | yeah but canadians are strange |
| 18:25.29 | Fisker | you're going to Blizzcon |
| 18:25.30 | Cairenn | Shirik: bite me |
| 18:25.33 | Cairenn | Fisker: yes |
| 18:25.33 | Thunder_Child | thats true |
| 18:25.42 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: you too |
| 18:25.55 | Bruners | canadians are cool |
| 18:26.02 | Thunder_Child | tell me it's not true Cairenn |
| 18:26.07 | Fisker | you should thank me Cairenn |
| 18:26.11 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: tell you what isn't true? |
| 18:26.15 | Cairenn | Fisker: hmmm? |
| 18:26.20 | Fisker | if i hadn't told you, you would've forgotten |
| 18:26.21 | Cairenn | Bruners: :) |
| 18:26.23 | Shirik | My boss was canadian |
| 18:26.28 | Shirik | he had a chihuahua |
| 18:26.29 | Cairenn | Fisker: heh |
| 18:26.33 | Shirik | 'nuff said |
| 18:26.33 | Cairenn | ewwwww |
| 18:26.40 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.46 | Thunder_Child | that canadian's are strange |
| 18:26.51 | Shirik | chihuahua == gnome? |
| 18:27.05 | Cairenn | chihauhua == not a dog, at the very minimum |
| 18:27.17 | VonhintenFUCT | I'm canadian... living in florida... I'm here to spread canadianism |
| 18:27.42 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 18:27.47 | Shirik | I will come find you |
| 18:27.53 | Shirik | and destroy you |
| 18:28.06 | Fisker | no |
| 18:28.07 | Fisker | i will |
| 18:28.10 | Kalroth | aww |
| 18:28.12 | Cairenn | promises promises |
| 18:28.12 | Lopeppeppy | Me too. |
| 18:28.51 | Shirik | cheers for Lopeppeppy |
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| 18:29.52 | Shirik | Cide- will too |
| 18:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | I was just feeling left out. What did I volunteer for? |
| 18:30.28 | Cairenn | destroying people |
| 18:30.34 | Shirik | to destroy VonhintenFUCT |
| 18:30.39 | VonhintenFUCT | something about destroying canadian chihuahua's |
| 18:30.47 | VonhintenFUCT | I don't follow... but mine is not to ask questions... |
| 18:30.48 | Fisker | slaps VonhintenFUCT around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:31.29 | Lopeppeppy | I can get behind the destroying of yip yip purse dogs. |
| 18:31.41 | Fisker | yip yip furfags? |
| 18:31.49 | Shirik | o.O |
| 18:32.22 | Lopeppeppy | Be polite, Fisker. |
| 18:32.53 | Thunder_Child | i think that is for Fisker |
| 18:33.07 | VonhintenFUCT | damn this is good: http://www.archive.org/download/um2004-02-07.shnf/um2004-02-07.shnf_vbr.m3u |
| 18:33.20 | Lopeppeppy | It's still something I don't like to hear. One can be extremely rude without bringing in the Prejudice Bat. |
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| 18:33.47 | Shirik | he was being racist against druids? |
| 18:34.06 | Fisker | what prejudice? .3? |
| 18:34.40 | Lopeppeppy | All y'all are just too keen. |
| 18:34.56 | VonhintenFUCT | So, this option in VS2008 to "Enable .NET Framework Source Stepping" rocks my socks |
| 18:35.05 | jaxdahl | http://penny-arcade.com/2009/8/17/ |
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| 18:35.12 | Fisker | you |
| 18:35.17 | Fisker | fu keyboard |
| 18:35.36 | Shirik | o.O |
| 18:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | Tolerance isn't the answer either, jaxdahl. |
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| 18:41.58 | nicoli_s | thats pretty sweet, wheres that option VonhintenFUCT? |
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| 18:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | Tierrie! |
| 18:43.24 | VonhintenFUCT | nicoli_s, tools options debugging |
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| 18:44.57 | Lopeppeppy | I scairt Tierrie. |
| 18:46.03 | Fisker | RAGE |
| 18:46.15 | Fisker | i just did the daily ravasaur quest |
| 18:46.18 | Fisker | and i forgot to turn it in |
| 18:46.24 | Fisker | so i have to go back to un'goro :( |
| 18:46.42 | VonhintenFUCT | scholzar portal |
| 18:46.48 | VonhintenFUCT | fasted way to ungoro |
| 18:47.00 | VonhintenFUCT | fastest |
| 18:47.15 | Fisker | old |
| 18:47.58 | VonhintenFUCT | wtb stock market to unshit the bed today pls |
| 18:49.38 | Fisker | THIS CONFUSES AND INFURIATES ME |
| 18:49.56 | Fisker | Some grass here that's tiled like it was stonetiles |
| 18:50.16 | NiLon | I can't find this anywhere, but I can create text to screen with lua only |
| 18:50.26 | NiLon | +how |
| 18:50.26 | Cide- | hi shirik |
| 18:51.03 | Cide- | hi Shirik_ |
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| 18:55.54 | Shirik|Ghost | yay |
| 18:55.58 | Shirik|Ghost | on the train |
| 18:56.50 | Shirik | my backup program just said "reticulating splines" |
| 18:56.55 | Shirik | I haven't seen that since SimCity 2000 |
| 18:57.08 | durcyn | and peggle. |
| 18:57.26 | Shirik | peggle totally came after SimCity 2000 |
| 18:57.28 | alestane | Shiibot: Mozy? |
| 18:57.40 | Shirik | ha! There's a blog about it http://geekswithblogs.net/lbugnion/archive/2007/11/30/reticulating-splines.aspx |
| 18:57.44 | alestane | Or rather... |
| 18:57.50 | alestane | Shirik: Mozy? |
| 18:57.55 | Shirik | yah |
| 18:57.56 | durcyn | Shirik: yes, that's the only other place i've seen it, is the point. |
| 18:59.40 | alestane | I get the same thing. The conclusion is that it's actually a deliberate SimCity homage. |
| 19:00.31 | Shirik | I think so too |
| 19:07.31 | Fisker | nahuh |
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| 19:08.27 | kenuvis | Hello |
| 19:08.38 | alestane | ~hello |
| 19:08.39 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 19:08.52 | Shirik | ~hello |
| 19:08.53 | purl | Howdy Bub |
| 19:08.56 | Shirik | well that's boring |
| 19:08.59 | kenuvis | is there anybody, have time for a little question about wuw ui dev. |
| 19:09.01 | Shirik | ~literal hello |
| 19:09.02 | purl | "hello" is "<reply> Howdy Bub" |
| 19:09.06 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 19:09.07 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:09.19 | kenuvis | ok ^^ |
| 19:10.16 | kenuvis | so, i will put a custom texture (i have it in tga) in a frame, but when i do that, i will always get a green square, but no texture |
| 19:10.23 | Shirik | Your tga is invalid |
| 19:10.26 | Shirik | what size is it? |
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| 19:10.45 | NiLon | so anyone got anything to point out where to start if I wanna create text to screen without xml part |
| 19:10.49 | kenuvis | mh....w: 50 h:328 |
| 19:10.53 | Shirik | Ok you can't do that |
| 19:10.59 | Shirik | both the width and the height have to be powers of 2 |
| 19:11.09 | kenuvis | oh, ok |
| 19:11.12 | alestane | For some reason WoW requires all dimensions to be powers of 2. |
| 19:11.40 | *** join/#wowuidev cogwheel (n=cogwheel@WoWUIDev/WoWProgramming/morlando/cogwheel) |
| 19:11.44 | VonhintenFUCT | because many video cards don't support textures that aren't powers of 2 |
| 19:11.48 | alestane | But if you extend it to 64x512, you can use :SetTexCoords to control which part of the file you want for your texture. |
| 19:12.11 | kenuvis | ok thank you, i'll try it |
| 19:17.09 | Shirik | so how is everyone this lovely evening? |
| 19:17.15 | nicoli_s | pretty damn good |
| 19:17.26 | nicoli_s | finally tracked down this damn error that has plagued me the last few days |
| 19:18.13 | Shirik | injects another error |
| 19:18.39 | nicoli_s | what was worse was it happenned in pretty much the only part of the framework im not already familiar with |
| 19:18.46 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/164933536 |
| 19:18.47 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaay! Package waiting for me!!! |
| 19:18.58 | Lopeppeppy | I lurvs when UPS finds packages they lost. |
| 19:19.02 | alestane | It finally escaped from Phoenix? |
| 19:19.09 | nicoli_s | Adys, whats with this garfield crap, wheres my translationparty laughs |
| 19:19.28 | Shirik | I really don't get garfield minus garfield |
| 19:19.34 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. I called and then also sent a nagging email, and surprise, next day they had it scanned and on an airplane. It had been left off the truck that was supposed to take it to New York. |
| 19:20.14 | Shirik | is scared of Lopeppeppy-nagging |
| 19:20.43 | nicoli_s | ive only seen like one of those garfield minus garfield that was mildy amusing |
| 19:20.53 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/tp/#1601815 |
| 19:21.03 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:22.06 | Lopeppeppy | I was nice, but very firm. I told them that if they hadn't scanned it and it was on the truck, well and good, but since they hadn't scanned it in, why not just go freakin' look? And there it was, in the bin. |
| 19:22.24 | Shirik | be less nice next time |
| 19:23.20 | nicoli_s | and show up at the managers house, thatll get yer point across |
| 19:23.24 | Adys | nicoli_s: be nice, Im packing up |
| 19:23.34 | Lopeppeppy | I was a customer service chick in a former life, I try to be polite but firm. Cranky often doesn't net you as much as being reasonable. |
| 19:23.53 | nicoli_s | Adys: will do, but only because i believe you were the discoverer of translationparty |
| 19:24.09 | Beutju | I want to create a vertical slider list with several font strings in it, as a scollable list; is there somewhere a tutorial or a easy code snippet for this I can have a look at? |
| 19:24.15 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: firm you say? I may have to verify that by touch |
| 19:24.25 | Shirik | ._. |
| 19:24.27 | Adys | nicoli_s: I was \o/ |
| 19:24.33 | Adys | well |
| 19:24.37 | Adys | philipp lenssen was |
| 19:24.42 | Adys | i just was the first to link it here |
| 19:25.01 | nicoli_s | thats the first one that counts |
| 19:27.15 | Shirik | First I was /o\ |
| 19:27.18 | Shirik | But then I \o/ |
| 19:27.56 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, zenzelezz, get on a plane. |
| 19:32.02 | nicoli_s | so shows excited about blizzcon |
| 19:32.23 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:32.28 | Shirik | if I said that to Lopeppeppy she would kill me |
| 19:32.47 | Shirik | zenzelezz says it and she's all like "my firmness, let me show you thems" |
| 19:32.52 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:33.23 | VonhintenFUCT | face it, some guys got it... some don't |
| 19:34.21 | nevcairiel | maybe she is afraid that shirik might actually see her some day, being on the same continent and all =P |
| 19:34.34 | Shirik | I've seen her :/ |
| 19:34.43 | Shirik | I destroyed her in SC |
| 19:34.52 | nevcairiel | or thats the reason, she has seen Shirik |
| 19:34.56 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:36.16 | Lopeppeppy | O, I seriously think not, Shirik, I nearly won! And I wasn't even playing to win, either. |
| 19:36.33 | Lopeppeppy | And are you sure I'd say that, Shirik? :P |
| 19:36.37 | VonhintenFUCT | What kinda crap is that... who plays to not win?? |
| 19:36.49 | Lopeppeppy | Someone who is playing to see what the changes are in the game. |
| 19:37.03 | VonhintenFUCT | weaaaaaak |
| 19:37.22 | Lopeppeppy | *shrug* I got what I was looking for. If I'd played a second time I might have played differently. |
| 19:37.39 | Shirik | she played zerg |
| 19:37.41 | Shirik | she deserved to lose |
| 19:37.58 | zenzelezz | <nevcairiel> maybe she is afraid that shirik might actually see her some day, being on the same continent and all =P <--- being on another continent is no safeguard. I've travelled from Norway to Australia twice to see a girl I met in WoW |
| 19:38.01 | Lopeppeppy | :) You deserved to have my building minions eat your face! |
| 19:39.12 | Shirik | anyway |
| 19:39.20 | Shirik | my row on the train is empty wuwu |
| 19:39.24 | Shirik | row all to myself |
| 19:39.24 | Shirik | I win |
| 19:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | Nice, you can stretch out and not worry about personal space. |
| 19:40.19 | Shirik | I don't occupy much personal space |
| 19:40.37 | Lopeppeppy | You're still pretty tall, dear. |
| 19:40.48 | VonhintenFUCT | I dunno... the dispair I just saw... sounds like he's aching to having his personal space invaded... |
| 19:41.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 19:46.35 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:46.41 | Fisker | why would you do such a thing? |
| 19:49.47 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:50.04 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik deserves only the best salmon fillets. |
| 19:50.16 | Shirik | um |
| 19:50.22 | Shirik | is that a compliment or an insult? |
| 19:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | You deserve better than trout, if Fisker must abuse you with fish he can at least treat you to the quality you merit. |
| 19:50.50 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 19:51.13 | NightHawkTheSan1 | note, se didn't say you shouldn't be abused. :P |
| 19:51.16 | the-golem | trout trumps salmon |
| 19:51.17 | the-golem | :P |
| 19:51.17 | NightHawkTheSan1 | s/se/she |
| 19:51.44 | Lopeppeppy | I can't control Fisker, sadly, or I'd hack his computer to do something else when he types that line... :) |
| 19:52.44 | Shirik | Nobody can control Fisker |
| 19:52.55 | NightHawkTheSan1 | sadly |
| 19:53.00 | kenuvis | Sry for interruption, but I have another question: I have a little Frame, and when I go with the mouse over it/or click it, a tooltip about an item(i have the ItemLink) should appear. How I script it? |
| 19:55.39 | Yssaril | kenuvis: for mouseover stuff you need to track the OnEnter and OnLeave events |
| 19:55.46 | End | kenuvis: set its OnEnter/OnLeave handler to :SetHyperlink the link on GameTooltip |
| 19:55.59 | End | (well, OnLeave would hide the tooltip) |
| 19:56.04 | Yssaril | for clicks the frame must be a button type and you need to register for OnClick |
| 19:56.07 | Shirik | what's that site where you can create your own weapons? |
| 19:56.27 | Yssaril | weaponsrus.com? |
| 19:56.29 | Fisker | you're mean Lopeppeppy |
| 19:56.38 | Lopeppeppy | Not yet, Fisker, not yet. |
| 19:56.41 | Fisker | whalrusesrusesses? |
| 19:56.53 | foxlit | http://www.saveyourself.com.au/weapon/index3.html, clearly |
| 19:57.14 | Lopeppeppy | Walruses R Us! |
| 19:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | Sells all bukkits, all the time. |
| 19:57.50 | Fisker | i need to end foxlit |
| 19:58.19 | foxlit | I'm going to imagine there was a comma there. |
| 19:58.44 | nevcairiel | I see it, too. |
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| 20:01.00 | kenuvis | thank you again, i'll try it. (btw: the texture work, i think i love this irc) |
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| 20:21.06 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60Sxop5I38 |
| 20:21.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 20:21.14 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:21.15 | mikma | this is how we open automatic doors |
| 20:21.43 | Lopeppeppy | With a spoon! Why a spoon? Because it will hurt more! |
| 20:22.16 | mikma | robin hood. |
| 20:22.49 | kenuvis | ok, back again. here is, what i have: |
| 20:22.49 | kenuvis | local Tooltip = CreateFrame("GameTooltip") |
| 20:22.49 | kenuvis | function OnEnter() |
| 20:22.49 | kenuvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.49 | kenuvis | end |
| 20:22.49 | kenuvis | but no tooltip..... i'm sure, there left something, but dont know what. |
| 20:22.51 | Shirik | spoons are good |
| 20:23.38 | kd3 | ooh, pretty map |
| 20:23.49 | cbreak | tooltips need an owner |
| 20:23.54 | cbreak | or they won't work |
| 20:23.55 | cbreak | I think |
| 20:24.06 | cbreak | and an anchor |
| 20:24.10 | cbreak | and they have to be shown? |
| 20:24.38 | mikma | kenuvis: example: GameTooltip:SetOwner(self, "ANCHOR_NONE"), GameTooltip:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", self, "BOTTOMLEFT"), GameTooltip:ClearLines(), GameTooltip:Show() |
| 20:24.44 | mikma | kenuvis: you are missing all those lines |
| 20:25.02 | kenuvis | ok, thanks |
| 20:26.16 | kd3 | so... a 3MB pdf to display a map? |
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| 20:26.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:27.06 | Yssaril | someone chose zip compression for the image probabaly :P |
| 20:28.10 | cbreak | an atlas? |
| 20:28.17 | industrial | http://pastebin.com/m6977a08d |
| 20:28.23 | industrial | I can't put Shred in there too right? |
| 20:28.28 | Yssaril | anyone have a link to the diff between 3.2 and 3.2.2? |
| 20:28.37 | durcyn | Yssaril: github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-sources |
| 20:29.22 | Yssaril | durcyn: thats the source i want a diff :P |
| 20:29.23 | cbreak | http://wowcompares.com/ might. but not yet |
| 20:29.34 | Yssaril | yea aleady checked there |
| 20:29.42 | kd3 | looks at his sent log |
| 20:29.48 | durcyn | Yssaril: `git help diff' |
| 20:31.04 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18) |
| 20:31.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 20:35.49 | Yssaril | durcyn: duh i should have thought of that |
| 20:36.01 | Yssaril | btw anyone know what jumpNavigateEnabled is in 3.2.2? |
| 20:36.17 | industrial | if I do /cast [target] Feral Charge - Cat, will it NOT pick a target for itself? |
| 20:36.58 | alestane | No, although /cast [harm] Feral Charge should reduce or eliminate that. |
| 20:37.04 | krka | does [target] really do anything? |
| 20:37.11 | cbreak | it's not valid syntax I think |
| 20:38.12 | industrial | isnt it the same as target=target ? |
| 20:38.26 | industrial | what does [harm] do exactly? |
| 20:38.33 | alestane | It isn't complete syntax AFAIK. |
| 20:38.58 | nevcairiel | harm checks if your target is harmful to you |
| 20:39.09 | cbreak | harm is true if you can attack your target, which implies that it exists |
| 20:39.11 | alestane | Industrial: It prevents selection of that option if you don't have an enemy target. |
| 20:40.13 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 20:40.14 | purl | ~pong |
| 20:40.30 | industrial | nop, it's still selecting mobs when I'm in range but don't have them targeted with [harm] |
| 20:40.49 | industrial | trying to make a spamgrindlevel button :p |
| 20:41.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 20:41.26 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:42.09 | industrial | only does it if I don't have a target though |
| 20:42.20 | industrial | guess then it works :D |
| 20:42.37 | Shirik | irssi ftw |
| 20:42.42 | industrial | ^ |
| 20:42.55 | Shirik | why do we have a mini-industrial today? |
| 20:43.03 | industrial | also, evne though I'm behind the target after Feral Charge - Cat I can't Shred him once? |
| 20:43.09 | industrial | that's ym current username on this system |
| 20:43.18 | industrial | it used to be Industrial |
| 20:43.19 | industrial | :> |
| 20:43.32 | industrial | 9I'm not lazy) |
| 20:44.10 | industrial | oh another druid question (s'been a while since I played it); at howmany CP does ferocious Bite do more damage then Mangle? |
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| 20:45.03 | Fisker | slaps durcyn around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:45.24 | durcyn | i'm going to destroy your entire country, Fisker |
| 20:45.28 | durcyn | say goodbye to denmark |
| 20:46.25 | industrial | fisker should play a death knight |
| 20:46.30 | industrial | and name him dkDKdk |
| 20:46.37 | industrial | (oh snap) |
| 20:48.00 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Danishdkofdk |
| 20:48.02 | Fisker | so fuck you |
| 20:48.08 | Torhal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU |
| 20:48.10 | Torhal | So fuck you. |
| 20:48.16 | Fisker | farts |
| 20:48.17 | Shirik | hey hey hey |
| 20:48.17 | Fisker | so fuck you |
| 20:48.21 | Shirik | chillax |
| 20:48.27 | Torhal | Shirik: bah |
| 20:48.30 | Torhal | He started it |
| 20:48.33 | Torhal | :D |
| 20:48.42 | Fisker | CALM THE FUCK DOWN SHIRIK |
| 20:48.52 | Shirik | I feel like an elementary school teacher |
| 20:49.03 | *** part/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 20:49.08 | End | CHILL MOTHERFUCKER CHILL |
| 20:50.51 | Fisker | Felicia Day is ugly |
| 20:50.53 | Fisker | :E |
| 20:51.27 | VonhintenFUCT | no she's not, she just has a narrow bite... |
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| 20:53.50 | Shirik | I think I just severely jacked up my computer |
| 20:53.50 | Shirik | time for brb moment |
| 20:54.04 | VonhintenFUCT | uh oh |
| 20:54.09 | Fisker | atleast you didn't jack it off |
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| 21:00.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:00.57 | Shirik | I have returned |
| 21:00.59 | Shirik | did you miss me? |
| 21:01.06 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 21:01.07 | nevcairiel | ... not |
| 21:01.16 | Shirik | I think you did |
| 21:01.35 | Kalroth | aww, nev is a meanie |
| 21:01.51 | nevcairiel | and i thought you liked that =( |
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| 21:02.22 | Kalroth | *teehee* |
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| 21:10.59 | NiLon | can someone point somekind direction for how to make text to screen without xml |
| 21:12.28 | alestane | What kind of text to screen? |
| 21:12.57 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@smtp.mail.averageurl.com) |
| 21:13.36 | NiLon | well I would like to show my power above char as text |
| 21:13.51 | mikma | nilon: local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:SetWidth(100); f:SetHeight(100); f:SetPoint("CENTER",0,0); local t = f:CreateFontString(nil, "ARTWORK", "GameFontNormal"); t:SetAllPoints(f); t:SetText("Hello World") |
| 21:13.58 | nevcairiel | You can't show anything in the 3D World |
| 21:14.04 | nevcairiel | not like blizzard does |
| 21:14.07 | Shirik | reticulating splines |
| 21:14.08 | NiLon | fontstring aha |
| 21:14.10 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:14.14 | VonhintenFUCT | lol |
| 21:14.34 | NiLon | mikma thank you |
| 21:14.41 | VonhintenFUCT | You can do it orthogonally though |
| 21:14.43 | VonhintenFUCT | right? |
| 21:14.55 | nevcairiel | you can try |
| 21:15.13 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure you can really pinpoint the location of your char that easily |
| 21:15.25 | VonhintenFUCT | there no API to get position of world object? |
| 21:15.29 | NiLon | well it won't matter where the text is |
| 21:15.37 | NiLon | I just wanna it to appear somewhere so play with it |
| 21:16.31 | NiLon | maybe you got that wrong actually, it's not meant to be "3d" text, just normal text in ui layer |
| 21:16.57 | VonhintenFUCT | go look at the code for any addon you've seen that puts text on the screen |
| 21:27.56 | kd3 | lmao; fark: "Pollice llook into llama killling [Strange]" |
| 21:28.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Colin_T (n=ColinT@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) |
| 21:30.59 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/15450/51067c250696a0c43971d6793d38f985.png |
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| 21:36.13 | Shirik | Cruciformer: ping |
| 21:37.10 | Shirik | or anyone else that uses a Canon: What happens after I take 10000 pictures? |
| 21:37.25 | Thunder_Child | i am sad, methodshop.com uses rickrolling as it's 404 page |
| 21:39.21 | Shirik | does ccox use a canon? |
| 21:39.24 | Kraps | ponders the sexual implications of "Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree" |
| 21:39.47 | Thunder_Child | dont remember |
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| 21:43.44 | Shirik | you have a nikon right Thunder_Child ? |
| 21:43.58 | Shirik | no Iriel does |
| 21:44.00 | Thunder_Child | no Shirik, i have a canon. iriel has a nikon |
| 21:44.12 | Shirik | have you ever hit 10000? |
| 21:44.24 | Thunder_Child | with my fist? |
| 21:44.30 | Shirik | 10000 pictures |
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| 21:44.54 | Thunder_Child | i'm at 6774 atm |
| 21:44.56 | Shirik | all the pictures get named IMG_xxxx, so what happens when I exceed 4 digits? |
| 21:45.02 | Shirik | I'm at 3500 now :( |
| 21:45.10 | Thunder_Child | it resets i think |
| 21:45.18 | Thunder_Child | or it goes to 5 |
| 21:45.30 | Shirik | well those are the obvious two options :P |
| 21:45.35 | Shirik | I want to know which one it chooses :( |
| 21:45.38 | p3lim6270 | haste: love the new addon :D |
| 21:45.53 | p3lim6270 | but not the cause |
| 21:45.56 | nevcairiel | my cam uses 5 digits by default, yay |
| 21:46.01 | nevcairiel | although its a cheap and shitty cam :P |
| 21:46.08 | Kraps | that soundblaster thing is weird |
| 21:47.23 | Kraps | The English-language Wikipedia thanks its contributors for creating more than 3,000,000 articles! |
| 21:47.54 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, does it matter atm? |
| 21:49.37 | jaxdahl | Shirik, make a pic named img_9999 then copy it to the camera memory card |
| 21:49.39 | jaxdahl | then snap a pic |
| 21:49.57 | nevcairiel | they usually have an internal counter |
| 21:50.07 | VonhintenFUCT | camera's have a tendency to fill in empty slots |
| 21:50.11 | nevcairiel | like you can empty the memory card and it wont start with 1 |
| 21:50.19 | jaxdahl | that's how my fuji camera works |
| 21:50.40 | jaxdahl | when i take the batteries out for a while and the cmos or w/e resets |
| 21:50.42 | nevcairiel | my sony has a "reset counter" menu option, though =P |
| 21:50.48 | jaxdahl | the it picks off at the last image # on the card or 1 |
| 21:50.51 | Thunder_Child | actually they might be right, http://doug.warner.fm/d/blog/416 thats suggests that the folder naming convention is part of it as well |
| 21:50.56 | Thunder_Child | that* |
| 21:51.33 | jaxdahl | they typically do have an internal counter as well |
| 21:51.43 | jaxdahl | so it keeps track across memory cards |
| 21:52.05 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: It will matter soon |
| 21:52.09 | Shirik | jaxdahl: It won't work |
| 21:52.19 | Shirik | The 5D has an internal counter because it's used like a car's odometer |
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| 21:52.24 | jaxdahl | Shirik, let the internal battery run out? |
| 21:52.32 | Fisker | fight Shirik with Shirik_ |
| 21:52.40 | Shirik | why is Shirik_ even here |
| 21:52.43 | Shirik | where the hell is he logged in |
| 21:52.57 | jaxdahl | Shirik_ is n=mpdelbuo@heresiarchguild.com * Unknown |
| 21:53.02 | Shirik | well yeah |
| 21:53.09 | Shirik | but I'm currently logged into the same server as Shirik_ |
| 21:53.14 | Shirik | and don't see where he could be logged in |
| 21:53.23 | Thunder_Child | ~vs Shirik Shirik_ |
| 21:53.24 | purl | in a one on one showdown, Shirik_ wins. |
| 21:53.43 | cogwheel | ~vs fisker trout |
| 21:53.44 | purl | in a one on one showdown, everyone wins. |
| 21:54.20 | Shirik | agree with purl |
| 21:54.33 | jaxdahl | what the heck, is that one hard coded in? |
| 21:54.39 | jaxdahl | ~vs 1 100 |
| 21:54.40 | purl | in a one on one showdown, no one wins. |
| 21:54.58 | Shirik | ~literal vs |
| 21:54.59 | purl | "vs" is "versus, or Vorpal Squirrel. Visual Studio" |
| 21:55.15 | Shirik | ~literal cmd:vs .*? |
| 21:55.21 | Thunder_Child | ~literal CMD: vs (.*?) |
| 21:55.27 | Elusive | So anyone got any good macros for the /dump protected functions execution ? |
| 21:55.34 | Shirik | ~literal CMD vs (.*?) (.*?) |
| 21:55.39 | Thunder_Child | whatever, i know whats in it because i made it |
| 21:55.39 | Shirik | ~literal CMD: vs (.*?) (.*?) |
| 21:55.40 | purl | "cmd: vs (.*?) (.*?)" is "($1,$2): <reply> in a one on one showdown, ($1|$2|no one|everyone|the companion cube|wait, whats this? $randnick has proceded to jump in the ring, thrash $1 & $2, and) wins." |
| 21:55.43 | Elusive | They hid the wall-jumping macros on mmowned =( |
| 21:55.50 | jaxdahl | Elusive, might as well ask 'anyone know a good way to get suspended?' |
| 21:56.00 | Elusive | Perhaps. lol. |
| 21:56.03 | Elusive | I'm quitting wow in 2 weeks |
| 21:56.05 | Elusive | Might as well ;) |
| 21:56.14 | industrial | sigh, chrome has no stop button right? It's anoying to make a typo, having pressed enter and pressing F6 and repyping the url again only to be stopped by the loading of the page (faulty) and the focus changing from the url editbox |
| 21:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Elusive: well, it'll get you banned here in about two minutes |
| 21:56.17 | foxlit | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive/phd113007s.gif << whee! |
| 21:56.23 | industrial | retyping* |
| 21:56.30 | Thunder_Child | industrial, wont esc stop it? |
| 21:56.44 | industrial | it does, thanks |
| 21:57.54 | mikma | http://www.ragdollsoft.com/ragdollavalanche/ |
| 21:59.02 | Kraps | mikma: i love these physics stuff |
| 21:59.45 | Fisker | no mikma |
| 21:59.53 | Fisker | this is why we can't have nice things |
| 21:59.53 | Kraps | im getting hacked to pieces though :/ |
| 22:01.14 | Shirik_ | who am I ? |
| 22:01.15 | Kraps | brutal |
| 22:01.17 | Shirik_ | ok I'm the evil Shirik |
| 22:01.30 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (n=p3lim@084202209241.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 22:01.34 | Thunder_Child | 84 is my best so far |
| 22:01.37 | Shirik | yay no more evil shirik |
| 22:02.28 | Kraps | 88 |
| 22:02.29 | Shirik | industrial: try esc... |
| 22:02.31 | Shirik | oh nm |
| 22:03.27 | Thunder_Child | 105! |
| 22:03.33 | Shirik | 209! |
| 22:03.41 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 22:03.47 | *** join/#wowuidev SinusPi (n=sinus@87-205-158-160.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 22:03.49 | Shirik | what did I get 209 on? |
| 22:04.36 | Kraps | nice tc |
| 22:05.23 | Kraps | 95 |
| 22:05.47 | Thunder_Child | your credit score Shirik |
| 22:05.55 | Shirik | 209 is about my credit score |
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| 22:16.07 | Kraps | this shit is hard |
| 22:16.38 | mikma | good thing you don't have a diarrhea ^^ |
| 22:17.23 | Kraps | thank you captain obvious |
| 22:18.10 | Beutju | I want to create a vertical slider list with several font strings in it, as a scollable list; is there somewhere a tutorial or a easy code snippet for this I can have a look at? |
| 22:18.25 | mikma | kraps: _o> |
| 22:19.06 | *** join/#wowuidev durcyn (n=durcyn@WoWUIDev/Durcyn) |
| 22:19.45 | Thunder_Child | woot 159 |
| 22:19.49 | mikma | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-christian-bale-nailin-girlfriend.jpg?w=450&h=300 |
| 22:19.54 | Thunder_Child | aaaaaaaand i'm spent |
| 22:20.50 | durcyn | huh, kde 4.3 is actually nice |
| 22:21.28 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:21.32 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU |
| 22:21.34 | Kraps | i know: old |
| 22:21.40 | Kraps | like today old |
| 22:22.47 | Shirik | I've always liked KDE 4 |
| 22:24.23 | kenuvis | sry for interruption again, but it doesnt work, hopefully, someone can help me |
| 22:24.28 | kenuvis | what i have: |
| 22:24.29 | kenuvis | local Tooltip |
| 22:24.29 | kenuvis | function MainFrame_OnLoad(Frame) |
| 22:24.29 | kenuvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.29 | kenuvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.30 | kenuvis | end |
| 22:24.31 | kenuvis | function Subframe_OnEnter() |
| 22:24.33 | kenuvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.35 | kenuvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.35 | kd3 | ow |
| 22:24.37 | kenuvis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.38 | kd3 | don't paste in here |
| 22:24.39 | kenuvis | end |
| 22:24.40 | ZorbaGama | dude don't spam the channel |
| 22:24.45 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net |
| 22:24.50 | kenuvis | sry |
| 22:25.05 | kenuvis | http://pastebin.com/d625b5e42 |
| 22:25.06 | ZorbaGama | also I recommend describing "doesn't work" in better detail. |
| 22:25.27 | kenuvis | no tooltip |
| 22:25.29 | ZorbaGama | also getglobal("MainFrame") is kind of redundant, just make that MainFrame without quotes |
| 22:25.34 | mikma | i would just use GameTooltip |
| 22:25.44 | ZorbaGama | (not the bug, just something I noticed) |
| 22:27.07 | kenuvis | but what is missing or what is wrong ? |
| 22:28.08 | ZorbaGama | that I got no idea. |
| 22:28.17 | ZorbaGama | I'd add some code to ensure that those functions are even being called in the first place, personally. |
| 22:28.45 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: 128 |
| 22:29.08 | Thunder_Child | Kraps "15:19.35Â Â Â Â Â Â Thunder_Child: woot 159" though i stopped agter that |
| 22:29.13 | Thunder_Child | after* |
| 22:29.35 | Kraps | doh |
| 22:29.52 | Thunder_Child | beat it though! |
| 22:31.14 | mikma | kenuvis: http://pastebin.com/d71a8a1ff |
| 22:31.45 | NeoTron | LOL. view source on this page: http://www.fujinonbinos.com/ |
| 22:32.35 | kenuvis | mikma: Thank you, i'll try it |
| 22:33.55 | bleeter | <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"> |
| 22:34.00 | bleeter | NeoTron: lovely |
| 22:34.04 | Fisker | >:3? |
| 22:35.02 | mikma | stupid microb lacking "view source" |
| 22:35.41 | NeoTron | they REALLY want to make sure the font is indeed changed |
| 22:38.24 | Yssaril | WOW |
| 22:38.54 | mikma | CAPS ME TOO |
| 22:40.50 | Yssaril | hands mikma his CAPS key. |
| 22:42.56 | Stanzilla | <META NAME="generator" CONTENT="Web Studio, Version 4.0 for Windows"> <- yeah...cool >.< |
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| 22:49.49 | Kraps | felicia day is teh sexleg |
| 22:52.05 | nicoli_s | man that website has some great html |
| 22:55.26 | NeoTron | nicoli_s: nice to find sites that are just perfect in their underlaying design |
| 22:55.36 | mikma | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-rowan-atkinson-listening-jonas.jpg?w=460&h=354 |
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| 22:58.16 | mikma | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-watson-grint-radcliffe-hogwarts-recession.jpg?w=500&h=412 |
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| 23:02.37 | mikma | haha! http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-henry-winkler-role-model.jpg?w=338&h=424 |
| 23:09.26 | Kraps | "grab your mouse and stroke the keys, here in cyberspace theres no disease" |
| 23:09.56 | mikma | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/celebrity-pictures-seth-green-play-dolls.jpg?w=300&h=446 |
| 23:10.01 | mikma | thats a good one |
| 23:13.49 | Kraps | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-miley-cyrus-new-career.jpg?w=468&h=652 |
| 23:15.08 | Shirik | If builders built buildings the way programmers write programs, Jolt Cola would be a Fortune-500 company. |
| 23:15.11 | Shirik | If builders built buildings the way programmers write programs, you'd be able to buy a nice little colonial split-level at Babbages for $34.95. |
| 23:15.23 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, that last one doesnt count. that IS what she does for disney |
| 23:15.35 | Shirik | If programmers wrote programs the way builders build buildings, we'd still be using autocoder and running compile decks. |
| 23:15.36 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: hur |
| 23:15.38 | mikma | hehe |
| 23:17.20 | Fisker | goodbye cruel Shirik :( |
| 23:17.34 | Shirik | evil shirik was bad man |
| 23:17.36 | Shirik | I killeded him |
| 23:18.25 | mikma | got any good loot? |
| 23:20.38 | Bruners | haste: im in! 870 tries! |
| 23:20.56 | Shirik | mikma Shiriks only drop legendaries |
| 23:22.48 | mikma | shirik: .. which level legendaries? |
| 23:27.35 | Shirik | mikma: 369 |
| 23:28.11 | ccox | Yes, ccox uses Canon most of the time |
| 23:28.30 | Shirik | Ever go past 10k pictures? |
| 23:28.46 | the-golem | I don't like that last one. |
| 23:31.04 | ccox | Yes, all too often |
| 23:31.16 | ccox | I typically shoot 1200 to 1500 pictures a day |
| 23:31.23 | the-golem | She was on an ice-cream cart being pushed around on stage. The pole was for stability, y'know, so she wouldn't fall on her ass. And she only did one dip. It's not as though she was gyrating on the thing the whole time. |
| 23:31.29 | the-golem | shuts up. |
| 23:31.51 | Thunder_Child | fact dont actually matter the-golem |
| 23:31.54 | Thunder_Child | facts* |
| 23:32.45 | the-golem | of course not. facts never matter for character assassination |
| 23:33.44 | ccox | "assasination" assumes too much for her character |
| 23:34.25 | ccox | "reverse character euthanasia" might be appropriate (putting her out of our misery) |
| 23:35.16 | Kraps | (Do You Wanna Date My) Avatar is the number 2 MP3 song DL on amazon |
| 23:35.45 | Shirik | ccox: So what happens after the 10k picture |
| 23:35.56 | Shirik | does it wrap back to 0000 or does it go to 5 digits? |
| 23:36.11 | ccox | depends on the camera model, either goes to another folder name, or adds a digit |
| 23:36.21 | Shirik | you are not helping! |
| 23:36.22 | Kraps | win http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/celebrity-pictures-queen-of-hearts-cuban.jpg?w=480&h=320 |
| 23:36.30 | Thunder_Child | actually Shirik, he did |
| 23:36.35 | Thunder_Child | he said it did not reset |
| 23:36.42 | Thunder_Child | and that is what you asked |
| 23:36.51 | Thunder_Child | more or less |
| 23:36.55 | Shirik | well it might go to another folder name with 0000 |
| 23:37.07 | Shirik | I hope that isn't the case, because that's as bad as reset to me |
| 23:37.17 | Thunder_Child | how would that be a problem? |
| 23:37.21 | Shirik | because each of my cards uses a different folder name |
| 23:37.38 | Thunder_Child | are you still storing your pics on cards? |
| 23:37.51 | Shirik | no... they're on my hard drive |
| 23:37.58 | Shirik | I just want a unique number for each picture |
| 23:38.12 | Thunder_Child | so get a batch renamer |
| 23:38.13 | ccox | damit, felicia makes me sad to miss blizzcon |
| 23:39.02 | Shirik | 1500 pictures is a lot |
| 23:39.10 | Shirik | I would need 3 16GB cards for that |
| 23:39.12 | Thunder_Child | you know ccox, i sat through that pannel last year with Esamynn|Away and i still dont know what the hype is all about |
| 23:39.16 | Shirik | do you take your laptop with you? |
| 23:39.26 | Thunder_Child | what laptop? |
| 23:39.48 | Shirik | that was at ccox |
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| 23:41.51 | ccox | Thunder - she's talented, smart, cute, and really a female - what more do you need? |
| 23:42.18 | Shirik | "really a female" what does that mean |
| 23:42.33 | ccox | Shirik - I keep a couple of cards with me, plus a 60GB epson viewer/downloader to offload the cards |
| 23:42.49 | ccox | Shirik: as opposed to most female toons you meet online |
| 23:43.11 | Kraps | Shirik: geek + female = real female |
| 23:43.35 | Thunder_Child | but she isnt cute imo |
| 23:43.47 | Kraps | youtube's view counter is broke? |
| 23:44.31 | ccox | since there are more comments than views, yeah, I think they broke it |
| 23:44.44 | Kraps | i listened to that song 10 times, even refreshing the page |
| 23:45.29 | ccox | Thunder - ok, maybe you prefer the backup singer in blue, but me, I wanna spend some quality time with Felicia |
| 23:45.44 | Shirik | I've been bringing my laptop where I go lately |
| 23:46.02 | Shirik | to pull off of the cards when I need to |
| 23:46.06 | Kraps | BURN |
| 23:47.38 | bleeter | anyone played with .xz format? http://tukaani.org/xz/xz-file-format.txt |
| 23:47.44 | bleeter | replacement for lzma |
| 23:48.45 | Arrowmaster | replacement for .lzma you mean, its still lzma |
| 23:50.35 | bleeter | I thought it was using lzma2 |
| 23:50.57 | bleeter | er yeah |
| 23:52.24 | Kraps | chicken nugget teim |
| 23:52.36 | ccox | hmm: writer, actress, comedienne, singer... maybe she's out of my league. |
| 23:52.47 | Arrowmaster | then somebody sucks at writting descriptions, the only reference to lzma2 i see is at the bottom of that document |
| 23:53.59 | Nechckn | ccox just keep that small vial with you so that you can do a quick bloodtest to be *certain*. =) |
| 23:54.16 | Thunder_Child | ccox, with that atitude, she already is |
| 23:54.17 | bleeter | 5.3.1 LZMA2 is an extensions on top of the original LZMA. LZMA2 uses LZMA internally, but adds support for flushing the encoder, uncompressed chunks, eases stateful decoder implementations, and improves support for multithreading. Thus, the plain LZMA will not be supported in this file format. |
| 23:54.50 | ccox | ... or maybe I've spent too much time slumming in this channel |
| 23:54.58 | bleeter | ccox++ |
| 23:56.10 | Shirik | an extensions |
| 23:57.22 | Nechckn | It's all of that Shirik exposure, ccox |
| 23:57.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:57.50 | Nechckn | Causes mojo meters to steadily decrease |
| 23:58.16 | Nechckn | tickles Shirik with that feather he so enjoys. |
