| 00:00.29 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/25407/the-movable-object/ |
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| 00:21.23 | foxlit | "Anyone know where the orphan q: the bigger tree ever is?" |
| 00:21.30 | foxlit | People never cease to amaze. |
| 00:22.00 | foxlit | You had to practically sleep through grizzly hills to not notice it. |
| 00:22.39 | Wobin | I skipped GH on some of my toons |
| 00:22.49 | Kaso | yah i leveled without touching GH |
| 00:22.58 | Wimpsy` | api> SetColor |
| 00:23.01 | Wimpsy` | !api SetColor |
| 00:23.01 | lua_bot | Found 6 possible results for 'SetColor': ColorSelect:SetColorHSV, ColorSelect:SetColorWheelThumbTexture, ColorSelect:SetColorWheelTexture, ColorSelect:SetColorRGB, ColorSelect:SetColorValueThumbTexture, ColorSelect:SetColorValueTexture |
| 00:23.21 | Wimpsy` | o_o |
| 00:23.29 | Wimpsy` | This is gonna be a looong night. |
| 00:23.46 | Kaso | what do you want to know about setcolor? |
| 00:24.00 | Wimpsy` | I want to know how to SetColor on a texture. :p |
| 00:24.07 | Wimpsy` | "texturename:SetColor" didn't work |
| 00:24.13 | robotusch | foxlit, I see that and raise you with Trade being spammed with "anyone inv for wg??!?!??!?!" |
| 00:24.26 | robotusch | FOR FIVE FUCKING MINUTES |
| 00:24.27 | robotusch | >_> |
| 00:24.29 | foxlit | Kaso: ever? |
| 00:24.40 | foxlit | What did you do, grind mobs in both HF and BT? |
| 00:24.52 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: you can easily skip GH |
| 00:25.08 | Kaso | i did BT and HF then was high enough to continue on into dragonblight |
| 00:25.18 | Pneu^ | GH has the greatest music though :< |
| 00:25.21 | NightHawkTheSane | if you do HF, BT, and DB, you'll hit 75-76 when you finish |
| 00:25.28 | foxlit | Yeah, okay |
| 00:25.30 | Wobin | Pneu^: this is true |
| 00:25.46 | foxlit | My assumptions about people not wanting to do both starting zones are clearly misguided. |
| 00:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | and if you're going for max-cash, you want to hit both HF and BT before you hit 80, cause the quests there go grey |
| 00:25.52 | Pneu^ | bt->hf->db->gh->zd = level 80, with quests left over |
| 00:26.01 | Pneu^ | leaving 3 zones for gold |
| 00:26.36 | Pneu^ | you can ding 80 in GH if you do dungeons+their quests along the way |
| 00:27.04 | robotusch | Or if you were a clever french lock :D |
| 00:27.17 | foxlit | The bt->hf step is cra-zee. |
| 00:27.43 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: why? |
| 00:28.04 | Pneu^ | ive done both starting zones on all my chars ive levelled through northrend :< |
| 00:28.05 | NightHawkTheSane | if you know the zone, its a breeze, as you're a few levels above the indended level, and just blast through it |
| 00:28.07 | foxlit | You're essentially doing the same level of content in a different zone. |
| 00:28.17 | Wobin | different rewards though |
| 00:28.22 | foxlit | same item levels. |
| 00:28.26 | Wobin | some of the rewards in each zone are better than the equivalent across |
| 00:28.31 | foxlit | And in some cases, same items by different names. |
| 00:28.44 | foxlit | I'm not so much interested in the second time around, NightHawkTheSane. |
| 00:28.46 | Pneu^ | yeh, different stat balances which make them better, and it also puts you a level or so above the curve which trivialises later zones |
| 00:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | for me, the gear was the side benefit, i just didn't want to see the quests go grey |
| 00:29.05 | Wobin | there are a couple of blues on either side |
| 00:29.07 | Pneu^ | i got my server first doing both zones :) |
| 00:29.09 | foxlit | Doesn't seem like fun to me :) |
| 00:29.25 | Wobin | What is this...'fun' that you speak of? =P |
| 00:29.34 | Pneu^ | although i didnt ding 80 till icecrown as i had to skip all the group quests, and all the dungeon quests |
| 00:29.40 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: eh, after doing every single quest in northrend, none of its particularly new on secondary characters. ;) |
| 00:29.43 | foxlit | Boring old HF->DB->GH->ZD->Scholo->Storm Peaks got me to 80 |
| 00:29.52 | Wobin | ...Scholo? |
| 00:29.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ... Scholo? |
| 00:30.13 | kd3 | sholazar |
| 00:30.18 | Wobin | oh |
| 00:30.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 00:30.24 | foxlit | scholomance, clearly. |
| 00:30.39 | foxlit | (but I meant the basin) |
| 00:30.45 | NightHawkTheSane | well, sholazar has no c, nor a second o, so i was confused ;) |
| 00:30.50 | Wobin | That used to be my favourite instance as a mace rogue |
| 00:31.00 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: however, the original discussion started with me wondering how people were not managing to notice the tree in the middle of grizzly hills. |
| 00:31.04 | Wobin | I could almost tank the mobs with stun =P |
| 00:31.19 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: indeed, and i agree with you there, its hard to miss. |
| 00:31.36 | foxlit | I'm sure they could've skipped everything under the sun the second time around, but that first leveling round should've smacked their face in it more than a few times. |
| 00:32.18 | NightHawkTheSane | well, even not doing both starting zones you CAN skip GH |
| 00:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | bt->db->zd->peaks/basin |
| 00:32.45 | Legorol | i have actually never completed GH on any char |
| 00:32.52 | Legorol | one of my chars i did a bit of questing there |
| 00:33.01 | Legorol | and the grand total of the number of quests i have done in sholazar is 6 |
| 00:33.06 | Legorol | and that's on one char |
| 00:33.09 | Legorol | the rest have never visited it |
| 00:33.22 | kd3 | meh. I'm too much of a completionist to miss quests anywhere |
| 00:33.29 | kd3 | looks at his <Loremaster> title |
| 00:33.31 | Legorol | this is mostly becuase i don't like to a) leave quests unfinished or unpicked up b) be in zones that are much below my level |
| 00:33.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i was on my main, at least in northrend. |
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| 00:33.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i kept telling myself i was going to go back and get loremaster.. but meh |
| 00:34.05 | kd3 | meh, I got loremaster before they nerfed EK/kalimdor quest counts |
| 00:34.05 | Legorol | so i tend to end up with: hf/bt -> db -> bit of gh, bit of zd, and then i'm 77 and head for storm peaks or icecrown |
| 00:34.08 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: dunno, I don't think there's enough ZD content to do that. |
| 00:34.51 | foxlit | I think you can be done with DB at pretty low 74 |
| 00:35.07 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: That's basically the path I took on my shaman, although I did do a LOT of instance runs (it was my first toon i leveled to 80, so there were a lot of people to instance with) |
| 00:35.41 | foxlit | being social by doing instances is clearly cheating. You're disqualified :) |
| 00:35.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
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| 00:38.12 | Legorol | any other DK tanks here? |
| 00:38.30 | Wobin | aye |
| 00:38.31 | Legorol | i'm in U25 normal gear mostly, and i have noticed i lost around 5k Hp 25-man buffed |
| 00:38.36 | Legorol | oh hai wobin |
| 00:38.43 | Legorol | did you also notice big drop in Hp? |
| 00:38.54 | Legorol | i was trying to do the math but it's just not working out at that big a loss |
| 00:38.58 | Wobin | not that large a one... but one of my collegues did |
| 00:39.08 | Legorol | went from 10% Hp -> 6% sta, but i can't think of other drop |
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| 00:39.29 | Legorol | raid buffed, i had 45k-ish, so the 10% Hp was around 4-5k |
| 00:40.16 | Legorol | now, raid buffed i have around 3000 sta, so 6% is ~200 sta -> should be more than 2k Hp if you consider kings, talents etc. |
| 00:40.24 | Legorol | so the gap shouldn't be 5k, and i can't figure out why |
| 00:44.42 | foxlit | runeforge? |
| 00:44.51 | Legorol | i didn't change it |
| 00:44.54 | Legorol | oh, interesting, the tournament dailies changed |
| 00:45.07 | Legorol | you can't get quick money by doing the same thing for two quests, nice |
| 00:45.14 | Legorol | that "cheat" was annoying me :) |
| 00:45.24 | Kraps | i know that level 71 isnt much of an indicator, but did unholy dps go down? |
| 00:45.25 | Relcuse | is there a way to basically HookScript or some other way to call a function of my own for when the user calls SetHeight() on a frame? |
| 00:45.36 | Legorol | people that didn't complete the valiant quest series on purpose so they can keep retaking the scourge and citadel quests and do them in parallel with the champion ones |
| 00:45.52 | Legorol | kraps: a tiny bit, if you are used to using unholy blight |
| 00:46.00 | Legorol | in aoe settings, it should've gone down a few percent |
| 00:46.07 | Legorol | at 71 soloing though, there should be no real change |
| 00:46.15 | Cloudwolf | Random fact. I hate Peas.... |
| 00:46.16 | Legorol | oh wait, i forgot, they did nerf scourge strike a bit |
| 00:46.40 | Kraps | i hate the desecration nerf, i think i'll go back to blood |
| 00:46.52 | Cloudwolf | Im a rogue so i feel left out |
| 00:46.53 | Kraps | yes i know its in another talent |
| 00:46.53 | Legorol | hm? |
| 00:46.56 | Legorol | it's not a nerf, just split |
| 00:47.14 | Kraps | i know |
| 00:47.16 | Cloudwolf | hers all 2 lines of my patch summorized in 1. I get 1 handed axes and shadow dance has a lower cooldown but lasts a shorter ammount of time |
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| 00:47.35 | Kraps | but i wasnt using blood strick before |
| 00:47.40 | Kraps | strike |
| 00:47.46 | Legorol | O.o |
| 00:47.52 | Legorol | what were you spending your blood runes on |
| 00:48.00 | Kraps | by mistake really :) |
| 00:48.02 | Legorol | there's nothing else to use it for if you are soloing |
| 00:48.11 | Kraps | i mean before the patch |
| 00:48.16 | Legorol | yes, before the patch |
| 00:48.29 | Wobin | maybe bloodboil =P |
| 00:48.31 | Legorol | the standard unholy rotation is ss, ss, bs, bs | ss, ss, ss |
| 00:48.40 | Legorol | that's unchanged |
| 00:48.49 | foxlit | "That's a nice butt model they've patched in" |
| 00:49.02 | Legorol | rofl |
| 00:49.11 | luigithekid_ | hi, have a quick question regarding a UI overhaul, when I mouse over some items foe the first time, I'm getting LUA errors left and right, tiptac handles tooltips, any ideas or suggestions? |
| 00:49.14 | foxlit | Seriously, new bear + usual camera angle == you're looking at 95% butt. |
| 00:49.25 | krka | luigithekid_: No reason to yell the name of the language. ^_^ |
| 00:49.27 | Wobin | so true |
| 00:49.41 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: that was always the downside of playing a feral tank. |
| 00:49.50 | Wobin | "Big Bear Butt" |
| 00:49.57 | Legorol | luigithekid_: can you be more specific about the "errors left and right"? perhaps copy/paste them onto wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 00:50.11 | Legorol | we can give you much more help if you give proper information other than "i'm getting errors" |
| 00:51.14 | luigithekid_ | k, ill try that, any way to "invoke" that lua error window? without having to hover over items that is? |
| 00:51.24 | Adys | Written by Benedict Herold on 09.22.08 |
| 00:51.24 | Adys | actuly chrome not able to open one of my server home page it |
| 00:51.24 | Adys | shows the message âOnly IE5.0 and above supportedâ its good in feature and according to functionalty this one is the biggest disadvantage plzzzzz help me its urgent |
| 00:51.49 | luigithekid_ | any slash commands i mean? and is this a good place for a noob to ask? |
| 00:52.03 | Cloudwolf | type /swat show |
| 00:52.07 | Cloudwolf | (if you have swatter) |
| 00:52.22 | Adys | luigithekid_: /script dosomething(illegal) |
| 00:52.40 | Legorol | luigithekid_: well this isn't necessarily a basic troubleshooting/support channel, most of the channel is dedicated for technical discussions |
| 00:52.42 | Kraps | Adys: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
| 00:52.46 | Legorol | but there are kind people here who will probably help |
| 00:52.53 | Legorol | so ask away and hope you get answers :) |
| 00:53.04 | Adys | Kraps: sorry, I'll need a flowchart for that |
| 00:53.26 | Kraps | righto |
| 00:53.27 | Legorol | Adys: he is getting standard Lua errors spawned by addons, he can't reproduce that with /script |
| 00:53.49 | Legorol | luigithekid_: you are kind of asking for the impossible, to some extent. You want to see the error message without doing what causes the error? |
| 00:53.58 | Cloudwolf | the question now is does he have swatter or another bug chaching thing in place |
| 00:54.15 | Legorol | luigithekid_: It's possible, if you have one of the several troubleshooting addons installed, such as Swatter or Bugsack |
| 00:54.24 | Legorol | those will record Lua errors so you can view and copy/paste them later |
| 00:54.29 | Adys | Legorol: no |
| 00:54.37 | Adys | the default 3.2 ui does that :) |
| 00:54.42 | Adys | hence the /script dosomething(illegal) |
| 00:54.42 | Legorol | uh, what now? |
| 00:54.45 | Adys | and hit previous |
| 00:54.47 | luigithekid_ | Legorol: trying to, just bad timing to redo the ui right before raid start |
| 00:55.07 | Legorol | luigithekid_: unfortunately, patch means broken addons, you should've prepared well in advance of the raid |
| 00:55.12 | Legorol | Adys: zomg, i need to check that out |
| 00:55.21 | Legorol | is that a ninja feature addition :) |
| 00:55.47 | Cloudwolf | i still like the lay out of swatter tells you which addons you have installed |
| 00:56.10 | Kraps | Adys: the answer to that is: âYouâve got to be kidding me. Iâve been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that? My guess is that when one really been far even as decided once to use even go want, it is then that he has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look... |
| 00:56.11 | Kraps | ...more like. Itâs just common sense.â |
| 00:56.28 | luigithekid_ | ok, here is one http://wowuidev.pastey.net/120127 |
| 00:57.24 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=4017 |
| 00:57.28 | foxlit | What sort of lunacy is that? |
| 00:57.34 | foxlit | "Defeat Archavon the Stone Watcher, Emalon the Storm Watcher, and Koralon the Flame Watcher within 60 seconds of each other in 25-player mode." |
| 00:58.09 | Kraps | foxlit: i thought it was a placeholder ... |
| 00:58.19 | foxlit | It made it live. |
| 00:58.20 | Kraps | many people did |
| 00:58.43 | Legorol | doesn't sound too bad, you can doze through emalon with 10 people |
| 00:58.46 | foxlit | Perhaps they'll tweak the timer later. |
| 00:58.53 | Legorol | take him down to 5%, leave a tank and healer there, go do the rest of them? |
| 00:59.01 | foxlit | Legorol: no can do. |
| 00:59.15 | foxlit | The adds tend to blow up unless you have dps there. |
| 00:59.37 | Legorol | luigithekid_: yes that was correct and perfect |
| 00:59.57 | Legorol | that particular error is caused by RatingBuster. as far as i know there is no updated version of it yet, so just disable it for now |
| 01:00.08 | luigithekid_ | thanks a lot |
| 01:00.37 | Legorol | i see you are also using Bagnon |
| 01:00.49 | Legorol | it may also cause tooltip issues with items in bags, if it hasn't been updated |
| 01:00.56 | Legorol | i'd disable that too |
| 01:00.58 | luigithekid_ | any rating buster replacement? |
| 01:01.08 | Legorol | default UI has a similar feature now |
| 01:02.37 | luigithekid_ | and for bags? whats recomended? |
| 01:02.55 | foxlit | likes the default bags. |
| 01:03.02 | Legorol | i like the default ones too |
| 01:03.14 | luigithekid_ | k, thanks a lot guys |
| 01:03.18 | Legorol | speaking of ratingbuster and default UI, i should fix up EquipCompare, it's not working with the new stat comparisons |
| 01:04.22 | bleeter | omg it's Legorol! RUN AWAY! /me hides behind Sixen |
| 01:07.43 | luigithekid_ | ok, disabled ratingbuster and bagnon, on load got "only" 12 lua errors, here's number 2 http://wowuidev.pastey.net/120129 |
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| 01:08.36 | Kraps | rating buster works for me |
| 01:08.39 | Sixen | I'm keeping bleeter safe. |
| 01:09.50 | Cairenn | staples the channel together |
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| 01:12.43 | bleeter | Cairenn: riveting |
| 01:12.48 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 01:13.02 | bleeter | Sixen: u r my heroes! :D |
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| 01:13.43 | luigithekid_ | For the bags, is there a way to open all the default bags in one window? or thats when addons come in? |
| 01:13.56 | Cloudwolf | luigithekid waht wre you doing when that error happend? |
| 01:14.11 | Cloudwolf | 1 window = addons (i use ark inventory for that) |
| 01:14.25 | luigithekid_ | i loged out, disabled ratingbuster and bagnon and logged back in |
| 01:14.44 | luigithekid_ | that lua error was sitting there, nicely waiting for me |
| 01:14.55 | Cloudwolf | i see a lot of errors that have to deal with ace >.> |
| 01:15.54 | Cloudwolf | how many addons do you use? |
| 01:15.59 | luigithekid_ | well, thanks a lot, i think after the raid i'll just start with one by one, trying to narrow down issues and getting rid of buggy ones |
| 01:16.08 | luigithekid_ | not many imho |
| 01:16.17 | luigithekid_ | less than 20 id say? |
| 01:16.34 | Cloudwolf | can i get a list of those |
| 01:16.45 | Cloudwolf | might help me figure out which one is erroring (not the best with this kinda thing tho) |
| 01:16.50 | Sixen | =] |
| 01:16.59 | Sixen | Cloudwolf? Like the War3 Map Author? |
| 01:17.05 | Cloudwolf | uh |
| 01:17.07 | Cloudwolf | no |
| 01:17.11 | Sixen | Kay. |
| 01:17.20 | Cloudwolf | unforutnatly some one actualy besides me used that name XD |
| 01:17.43 | Cloudwolf | im like wait what! some one making maps under the name cloudwolf.... this is a lie ive never seen any one else use this user name but me |
| 01:18.04 | Cloudwolf | nah im still going under my old username for wc3 but i use cloudwolf for almost everything else |
| 01:19.52 | Cloudwolf | i forget but what maps did cloudwolf make any way? |
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| 01:27.06 | bleeter | If SC2 launch ain't happening by end of year, I wonder what Blizz will show off @ Blizzcon |
| 01:27.24 | DWSR | 3.3 |
| 01:27.54 | bleeter | ? I thought WotLK was going to be in 'three movements' |
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| 01:28.13 | bleeter | guess I missed something |
| 01:28.15 | DWSR | Your mom's going to be in three movements. |
| 01:28.28 | DWSR | I'm just randomly stating a version number. :P |
| 01:28.57 | Cloudwolf | isit or is blizzard notorious for being horrid with release dates? |
| 01:29.15 | DWSR | Valve's worse. |
| 01:29.21 | Cloudwolf | true... |
| 01:29.29 | Cloudwolf | i ahvn't even heard tell of work on episode 3 |
| 01:29.35 | DWSR | They're working on it. |
| 01:29.43 | Wobin | there's a concrete reason why not to be precise with release date |
| 01:29.48 | Wobin | "Accountability" |
| 01:29.51 | DWSR | the release date is probably around the same star date that we invent warp drive. |
| 01:30.38 | Cloudwolf | Q when will diablo 3 be released A" hopefully sometime during hte year" ( lol that was like a year ago when that was put on hte faq) |
| 01:30.59 | Cloudwolf | well thats an example of what i see constantly |
| 01:31.04 | DWSR | Wobin's right though |
| 01:31.35 | bleeter | guess they might show off D3 |
| 01:31.44 | Cloudwolf | i want d3 so badly D: |
| 01:32.10 | Thunder_Child | i want it so goodly |
| 01:32.24 | bleeter | hmm the 'news' said the delay in SC2 is due to battlenet, so maybe they'll heavily show off that? |
| 01:32.30 | bleeter | *motly due |
| 01:32.31 | bleeter | s |
| 01:32.33 | bleeter | sighs |
| 01:32.33 | Cloudwolf | ok i'll rephrase that. *I just want diablo 3 |
| 01:32.43 | Thunder_Child | they could at least start the damn beta |
| 01:32.49 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 01:32.59 | bleeter | mind you I'm prolly banned from betas |
| 01:33.16 | Cloudwolf | XD what did you do? |
| 01:33.42 | Thunder_Child | nothing, he is simply bleeter |
| 01:33.51 | bleeter | had a bitch about how messing with onyxia chain and various NPCs will no doubt break stuff... so I got banned |
| 01:34.00 | bleeter | vramithras' horde quests were subsequently broken |
| 01:34.03 | bleeter | iirc |
| 01:34.12 | bleeter | I think I complained about the alliance ones hehehe |
| 01:34.19 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: well that too |
| 01:34.22 | DWSR | bleeter: tbh, fuck the alliance. |
| 01:34.33 | DWSR | Their "FTA" achievement is so much easier with Varimathras gone. |
| 01:34.36 | Cloudwolf | the boy who cried bleeter... |
| 01:34.45 | DWSR | Sylvanas is such a joke without Vari there. |
| 01:35.07 | bleeter | DWSR: was more a rant about how plot progression had previously resulted in screw ups, and I expected stuff to break in game |
| 01:35.22 | DWSR | bleeter: That doesn't make my point any less valid. |
| 01:35.54 | DWSR | Blizzard loves Alliance over Horde. Give me solid proof that they don't. |
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| 01:35.55 | Cloudwolf | why did they remove varimathras? |
| 01:35.55 | bleeter | I was right, but probably just a little too harsh in my criticism... but this was before wrath launched they had time to fix it... I still got the beta forum ban, last time I looked it was still broken.. /shrug |
| 01:36.05 | bleeter | Cloudwolf: battle of undercity |
| 01:36.06 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: Because of the Wrathgate questline? |
| 01:36.39 | foxlit | Because the horde killed him. |
| 01:36.40 | DWSR | Varimathras basically takes over UC, then Thrall & Sylvanas and you go back and fucking assrape the whole city? |
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| 01:37.15 | Cloudwolf | >.> .... im alliance sooo (prepares for a being flamed)... |
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| 01:37.47 | bleeter | so if one goes to do low level undercity rep quests after that chain, you have to hand stuff in to him.. but you've killed him.. so... ;) |
| 01:37.58 | bleeter | which is kinda tangental to the ony chain |
| 01:38.00 | DWSR | bleeter: They fixed it. |
| 01:38.08 | DWSR | You hand the stuff into Sylvanas I think. |
| 01:38.13 | bleeter | DWSR: heh, I never bothered looking |
| 01:38.20 | DWSR | Me either. |
| 01:38.24 | DWSR | I'm already exalted with UC anyway. |
| 01:38.30 | DWSR | Not going for Loremaster any time soon. |
| 01:38.32 | Cloudwolf | honestly ive allways been behind the endgame shit |
| 01:38.33 | foxlit | But meh. He's actually removed as opposed to merely phased? |
| 01:38.41 | DWSR | foxlit: No, he's phased. |
| 01:38.49 | DWSR | That NPC, not you. |
| 01:38.52 | bleeter | it's kinda tangental to the ony quest removal, but.. meh |
| 01:38.52 | Cloudwolf | i never hit 60 before bc i got to 70 and it was about 4 months from wotlk being relesaed |
| 01:39.05 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: he's phased, he's there before you do the quest, gone after. |
| 01:39.07 | Cloudwolf | im 80 now i didn't do nax due to time conflictions and school now i havn't done ulduar or nax |
| 01:39.08 | Shirik | I'll show you my NPC |
| 01:39.13 | Cloudwolf | and the new raid is out |
| 01:39.13 | DWSR | <3 Shirik. |
| 01:39.15 | bleeter | Cloudwolf: the wrathgate chain can be done at.. 74 or so |
| 01:39.16 | foxlit | In other words, it's pretty meaningless. |
| 01:39.17 | bleeter | not endgame |
| 01:39.29 | foxlit | Do the quests at proper levels, and there's no issue :) |
| 01:39.36 | NightHawkTheSane | eh |
| 01:39.39 | DWSR | foxlit: Yeah, but what if you're doing Loremaster? |
| 01:39.44 | NightHawkTheSane | its -real- easy to miss a lot of the quests that pass through him |
| 01:39.58 | NightHawkTheSane | he intersects with a handful of tiny and not-commonly-done chains |
| 01:40.00 | foxlit | DWSR: I don't think that's that tightly bound. |
| 01:40.07 | bleeter | foxlit: it's impossible to do quest at proper levels, one zips through zones so quickly these days |
| 01:40.23 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: might not be the case these days, at one point i think it was *shrug* |
| 01:40.27 | DWSR | foxlit: It's a bunch of really easy quests. |
| 01:40.29 | bleeter | *to do all quests |
| 01:40.36 | Cloudwolf | i migth have odne wraithgate but i doub tit |
| 01:40.47 | Cloudwolf | *doubt it |
| 01:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | if you've finished dragonblight on any character you probably have |
| 01:41.05 | bleeter | you'd remember it, huge cutscene thing |
| 01:41.06 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: There was an epic cinematic. |
| 01:41.08 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, you get an achievement for it |
| 01:41.11 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 01:41.15 | bleeter | that too |
| 01:41.32 | DWSR | The cinematic fucking rocks. There needs to be more of them in the game tbh. |
| 01:41.34 | bleeter | personally, I found it the most satisfying part of WotLK |
| 01:41.37 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 01:41.40 | Cloudwolf | achivement name? ... heh.... |
| 01:41.47 | foxlit | Hrm, 5. |
| 01:41.48 | DWSR | Veteran of the Wrathgate |
| 01:41.52 | bleeter | DWSR: I'd rather have it as a full render, not a scene |
| 01:41.59 | bleeter | full ingame thing, not a cutscene |
| 01:41.59 | DWSR | bleeter: Me too, but still. |
| 01:42.03 | bleeter | aye |
| 01:42.07 | Thunder_Child | the cinematic is fine but it would be nice if you had a choice about it starting |
| 01:42.12 | DWSR | Not really. |
| 01:42.15 | foxlit | bleeter: Meh. I prefer the cinematic. |
| 01:42.23 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: It doesn't make sense to not start it. |
| 01:42.28 | Cloudwolf | hmm i had to return a sheild for that one |
| 01:42.35 | DWSR | "Do you want to start the cinematic" "No". |
| 01:42.42 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, yes, because i may not want to watch the damn thing again |
| 01:42.46 | bleeter | foxlit: well, there's the 'live' flyin style cinematic at the start of the game, with voice over.. would be nice to have that stuff |
| 01:42.49 | DWSR | "OK, well here's the area on fire, a couple of dragons, and some dead people". |
| 01:42.55 | Thunder_Child | well then a way to turn it off in the options |
| 01:43.04 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: you mean like the magister's terrace cinematic |
| 01:43.10 | Cloudwolf | that was the one where UC killed alliance horde and scourge right? |
| 01:43.11 | bleeter | click the orb for the cinematic |
| 01:43.14 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: tbh, it would be nice to have a way to skip through it. |
| 01:43.20 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: Yes. |
| 01:43.20 | foxlit | bleeter: I simply don't believe implementing it that way would be beneficial. |
| 01:43.21 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, you can |
| 01:43.22 | kd3 | hit escape |
| 01:43.29 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 01:43.32 | DWSR | then what are you complaining about? |
| 01:43.42 | DWSR | Just hit escape and win. |
| 01:43.42 | foxlit | I mean sure, you can get rid of player camera control and show some in-game models doing something. |
| 01:43.55 | Cloudwolf | i think i'll watch it again before i get off tonight |
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| 01:44.08 | Cloudwolf | it shoudl be a nice way to relax after rep grinding for 3 hours -_- |
| 01:44.10 | Thunder_Child | DWSR, i dont play full screen, the cinematic is |
| 01:44.18 | Thunder_Child | you can guess at the iritation |
| 01:44.18 | DWSR | Oh, it is? |
| 01:44.22 | Thunder_Child | iirc |
| 01:44.23 | DWSR | that's sorta stupid. |
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| 01:44.31 | DWSR | I don't see how that's possible, tbh. |
| 01:44.34 | bleeter | foxlit: I bought a sub to an MMORPG, not to something with prepared cutscenes. The live fly in at the start is cool... not many games do that and it does kinda give WoW a special feeling /shrug |
| 01:44.47 | bleeter | *do that well |
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| 01:44.55 | DWSR | Since it's just a cinematic, it should just follow whatever area of the screen WoW is using. |
| 01:45.09 | DWSR | (i.e. behave exactly the same as the starting cinematics) |
| 01:45.27 | foxlit | bleeter: you're going to passively watch something either way. |
| 01:45.39 | DWSR | tbh, moar cutscenes would be really cool. |
| 01:45.44 | DWSR | Like entering naxx for the first time. |
| 01:45.44 | foxlit | The prepared cutscene seems to be a higher-quality option than the in-game engine trickery. |
| 01:45.47 | DWSR | Or any raid instance. |
| 01:45.57 | cog|away | Wobin: ty :) |
| 01:46.03 | DWSR | foxlit: It is. |
| 01:46.13 | bleeter | foxlit: I like seeing other people running around in my camera view. I didn't buy an RPG, I bought MMORPG |
| 01:46.16 | DWSR | It would be nice if the game's graphics engine wasn't so CPU bound. |
| 01:46.27 | foxlit | I mean, they did the Magister's Terrace flyby. That was... cute, but it doesn't really compare to the wrathgate quality |
| 01:46.39 | DWSR | foxlit: Wrathgate's pre-rendered. |
| 01:46.47 | DWSR | foxlit: Magister's is just camera control. |
| 01:47.00 | foxlit | DWSR: Thank you for stating my point. Did you want fries with that? :) |
| 01:47.06 | bleeter | goes back to downloading yet another fucking patch... |
| 01:47.22 | DWSR | foxlit: Yeah. Supersize me bitch. ;) |
| 01:47.38 | Cloudwolf | question about Quest Helper is there a way to make it not spam me with Creatinating questnumberhere |
| 01:47.56 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: type /qh help and take a looksee. |
| 01:48.15 | DWSR | That must be a new version, mine's never done that, but I haven't logged in since Sunday. |
| 01:48.19 | foxlit | The ending of that cinematic is awesome |
| 01:48.25 | DWSR | foxlit: Hell yes. |
| 01:48.35 | DWSR | I'm so glad Warlock T8 looked like his garb though. |
| 01:48.42 | DWSR | Warlock T8 was easily one of the best looking. |
| 01:48.42 | bleeter | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25894584-421,00.html |
| 01:48.49 | DWSR | Warlock T9 looks farking retarded. |
| 01:49.03 | foxlit | who'd want to willingly dress like the traitor? |
| 01:49.24 | foxlit | set art quality kind of peaked at tier 2 :/ |
| 01:49.25 | DWSR | foxlit: I'm a warlock. I'm a traitor to everyone. |
| 01:49.29 | DWSR | foxlit: Yeah. |
| 01:49.43 | foxlit | And to think that people were giving them grief for that set. |
| 01:49.44 | DWSR | dungeon T0 still looks really neat. |
| 01:50.21 | Cloudwolf | im using qh 1.1.8 (the one thats suppsoed to work with 3.2 |
| 01:50.25 | bleeter | Wobin: just in case you missed it in ##australia, http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25894584-421,00.html |
| 01:50.32 | foxlit | 2.5 is awesome too, albeit for a different reason. |
| 01:50.37 | bleeter | Wobin: I half suspect everyone else in here will miss it 'coz it's a .au URL ;) |
| 01:50.39 | DWSR | foxlit: 2.5? |
| 01:50.43 | foxlit | AQ40 |
| 01:51.13 | DWSR | ah. |
| 01:51.13 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 01:51.24 | DWSR | tbh, I would like a legendary DPS caster weapon. |
| 01:51.26 | foxlit | "Enigma's Answer" and "Enigma's Solitude" |
| 01:51.29 | DWSR | Sometime this moth. |
| 01:51.31 | DWSR | month |
| 01:51.54 | Cloudwolf | dwsr: lol epic change. Fix error in erorr handling causing non serious errors to incorrectly be handled as serious errors, thus causing a serious error to occur, which itself, was hanlde dincorrectly.(yep) |
| 01:52.06 | foxlit | They made a mistake with the legendaries somewhere along the line. |
| 01:53.09 | DWSR | foxlit: Elaborate? |
| 01:53.45 | foxlit | The design smells -- it's creates a situation where people won't be happy no matter what they patch in. |
| 01:54.09 | DWSR | foxlit: There should be a legendary weapon for every role. |
| 01:54.24 | DWSR | physical DPS, caster DPS, tank, and healer. |
| 01:54.33 | DWSR | in every tier of gear. |
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| 01:54.42 | foxlit | At that point, why have legendaries? |
| 01:55.12 | DWSR | s/gear/content/ |
| 01:55.12 | DWSR | foxlit: Why have them to start with? Only 0.02% of people get them and they're not OP.\ |
| 01:55.12 | DWSR | So wtf's the point? |
| 01:55.14 | Cloudwolf | bragging rights |
| 01:55.15 | foxlit | Indeed. Therefore, there's a mistake somewhere. |
| 01:55.43 | DWSR | I think that having a legendary for each role in ICC would be really nice. |
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| 01:56.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i think they should just ditch legendaries altogether |
| 01:57.09 | DWSR | NHTS: Yeah, prolly. |
| 01:57.21 | DWSR | Although, isn't there an "artifact" item quality as well? |
| 01:57.25 | NightHawkTheSane | its a neat idea, but i've yet to be convinced it does good things to the game |
| 01:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | in theory, yes |
| 01:57.57 | DWSR | No items that have ever been released though? |
| 01:58.54 | Cloudwolf | i think the only artifact items that i would consider artifacts (unique colored text) are the heirlooms... |
| 01:58.58 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/webkit-block.html Anyone can check this in opera? |
| 01:59.10 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: No. |
| 01:59.13 | DWSR | Artifact items are red. |
| 01:59.19 | Adys | they arent |
| 01:59.20 | Cloudwolf | oh meh |
| 01:59.25 | Adys | they're the same quality as heirlooms |
| 01:59.27 | Industrial | frostmourne |
| 01:59.32 | Industrial | obviously |
| 01:59.36 | DWSR | Industrial: Exactly. |
| 01:59.39 | DWSR | Adys: don't believe you. |
| 01:59.43 | NightHawkTheSane | there aren't any in game, so meh |
| 01:59.44 | cogwheel | am i hallucinating or is win7's mspaint's default save format PNG? |
| 01:59.52 | DWSR | cogwheel: I *doubt* it. |
| 01:59.53 | DWSR | Highly. |
| 01:59.59 | Industrial | is it actually PNG? |
| 02:00.03 | cogwheel | DWSR: hence my question >< |
| 02:00.08 | Adys | DWSR: /script GeQualityColor(6) |
| 02:00.08 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/items/?quality=6 |
| 02:00.37 | DWSR | Adys: that doesn't really prove much. |
| 02:00.49 | Adys | okay fine im getting you a fucking screenshot |
| 02:00.55 | Adys | what the hell is up with "don't believe you" |
| 02:01.04 | DWSR | Adys: I don't? |
| 02:01.31 | Adys | actually what bothers me is more that the red artifact item rumour is STILL alive |
| 02:02.03 | NightHawkTheSane | has a hankering for d2x |
| 02:02.11 | NightHawkTheSane | thinks something is wrong with him |
| 02:02.12 | cogwheel | ! |
| 02:02.29 | cogwheel | I exited paint, started it, saved a file as bmp, exited, started, and defaulting to png... |
| 02:03.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hax |
| 02:03.44 | Adys | back... 5 years ago |
| 02:03.51 | Adys | there was this one note on the wow official website |
| 02:03.58 | Adys | "Artifacts - Very legendary items" |
| 02:03.59 | Adys | in red |
| 02:04.00 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint_(software)#Windows_7 |
| 02:04.13 | Adys | and thaaaaaaaat started the whole rumour |
| 02:04.46 | Cloudwolf | it would be cool if martin fury existed XD |
| 02:04.54 | Adys | they nerfed it last patch |
| 02:04.57 | Adys | this patch |
| 02:05.03 | Adys | it kills player on use now |
| 02:05.38 | Cloudwolf | rofl |
| 02:05.47 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:05.47 | Adys | DWSR: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/artifacthi.jpg |
| 02:05.52 | Adys | I'm not kidding |
| 02:05.56 | Adys | they nerfed martin thunder too |
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| 02:06.40 | DWSR | Adys: I thought that The Glaives and the Blade were both Legendary? |
| 02:06.41 | Cloudwolf | >.> well i kenw about hte warglaives i think |
| 02:06.47 | Cloudwolf | the glaives are legenadry |
| 02:06.52 | Adys | the warglaives are legendary |
| 02:06.58 | Adys | those are not the real ones |
| 02:07.01 | Adys | they're older versions |
| 02:07.01 | Cloudwolf | i have never seen the twin bladse tho |
| 02:07.15 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/search/item/azzinoth/ |
| 02:08.15 | Cloudwolf | hmm i remember seeing the ones that combine (not literaly seeing them ingame) but hearing about them i think atlast loot had them in thier database |
| 02:08.44 | Adys | they're old as fuck |
| 02:08.46 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: Atlasloot has everything that's blue and above. |
| 02:08.51 | DWSR | what Adys said. |
| 02:08.52 | foxlit | "The version tag should specifically allow for automatic verification ([i]not[/i] just with Minion but manually, too)" |
| 02:08.56 | foxlit | loves that thread |
| 02:09.03 | foxlit | "automatic manual verification" |
| 02:09.16 | Cloudwolf | rofl |
| 02:09.18 | Cairenn | growls at that thread |
| 02:09.22 | NightHawkTheSane | thats pretty awesome |
| 02:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | what thread? |
| 02:09.48 | foxlit | I could respond, but I'm having difficulty balancing the amount of faux outrage I want to project. |
| 02:10.00 | Cloudwolf | it would be awsome if they implimented like 0.0000000000000000000001% drop chances for some nice like godlyesque items XD |
| 02:10.06 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151966#post151966 |
| 02:10.14 | foxlit | er, http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26082 |
| 02:10.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:10.34 | DWSR | Cloudwolf: no it wouldn't. |
| 02:10.34 | ScytheBlade1 | that thread |
| 02:10.41 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: unfortunately, no one loves the RNG. |
| 02:10.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I kind of want to end it now, but it seems mostly dead |
| 02:11.55 | Cairenn | just leave it alone, in the hopes they'll go away |
| 02:12.09 | ScytheBlade1 | as in push the lock button |
| 02:12.09 | Cloudwolf | RNG? |
| 02:12.12 | foxlit | must... resist... urge... to troll... |
| 02:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | But I have no real reason to now |
| 02:12.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Which saddens me |
| 02:12.47 | NightHawkTheSane | random number generator |
| 02:12.47 | foxlit | see, even SB1 supports trolling there. |
| 02:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I AM slowly turning into Fisker |
| 02:13.01 | Cairenn | no trolling |
| 02:13.05 | NightHawkTheSane | (wrt to wow, "RNG" often means the random determination of loot, or other effects) |
| 02:13.22 | Thunder_Child | trolls Cairenn |
| 02:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | exactly @ Thunder_Child |
| 02:13.50 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: I do believe he's contagious. |
| 02:13.58 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: I agree |
| 02:13.58 | DWSR | trolls Thunder_Child |
| 02:14.00 | foxlit | and asleep. |
| 02:14.11 | foxlit | Do Fiskers look peaceful while asleep? |
| 02:14.18 | Thunder_Child | trips DWSR |
| 02:15.11 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, the fact that you used plural and therefore suggests that there is more than one is disturbing |
| 02:15.25 | Thunder_Child | s/ts/t/ |
| 02:16.35 | foxlit | # http://pastey.net/120140 |
| 02:17.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i need to start using crazy version numbers like foxlit |
| 02:17.05 | foxlit | (that's right, an off-topic comment so large it required a pastey) |
| 02:17.23 | foxlit | There's a method to every part of that madness. |
| 02:17.31 | foxlit | Down to the last "-Wrath:" of it |
| 02:17.36 | Adys | your mom requires a pastey |
| 02:17.49 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: i've no doubt. but it -is- madness. and madness is fun ) |
| 02:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 02:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: two, actually |
| 02:18.45 | foxlit | Now I have to figure out some way to get "Pickle Echo" in there without upsetting the usual order of things. |
| 02:18.57 | Shefki | anyone else notice the new /framestack is bugged? |
| 02:19.06 | foxlit | Someone complained earlier. |
| 02:19.43 | Shefki | It's definitatly not showing me the frames under the mouse. |
| 02:25.02 | kd3 | zomg; finally |
| 02:25.05 | kd3 | the last ep of endless 8 |
| 02:28.53 | Aqua | hey is cartographer still updated? |
| 02:29.25 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.29 | DWSR | Carto3 is, I believe. |
| 02:29.35 | Aqua | i didn't know if CKnight updated it anymore or not |
| 02:29.39 | Nechckn | most folks have moed on to Cart3 and um.. that other one |
| 02:29.53 | Aqua | see, i didn't know cart3 was out |
| 02:29.56 | Nechckn | ckknight has gone back to doing some minor fixes |
| 02:30.00 | Thunder_Child | it's beta |
| 02:30.10 | ckknight | y helo thar. |
| 02:30.10 | Nechckn | for Cart2, but it's pretty big and crazy |
| 02:30.18 | ckknight | I have Cart5 sitting in my Addons folder |
| 02:30.20 | Nechckn | Speak of the devil |
| 02:30.25 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.26 | Aqua | really.... |
| 02:30.30 | ckknight | it's like a mix of 2 and 3 |
| 02:30.32 | ckknight | 2 + 3 = 5 |
| 02:30.33 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:30.36 | Nechckn | I like your 2 + 3 thing |
| 02:30.37 | DWSR | a la winamp? |
| 02:30.38 | Aqua | wanna send me a beta of it? |
| 02:30.42 | ckknight | sure don't |
| 02:30.42 | Aqua | hehehe |
| 02:30.44 | ckknight | it's hardly anything |
| 02:30.47 | ckknight | haven't had time to work on it |
| 02:30.50 | ckknight | been busy with curseforge/wowace |
| 02:30.55 | Aqua | yea, i was kidding man |
| 02:31.03 | ckknight | once I have alphas ready, it'll be on wowace |
| 02:31.18 | Aqua | where is 3 at? I only say 2 on wowinterface |
| 02:31.25 | ckknight | @project cartographer3 |
| 02:31.27 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cartographer3/. Cartographer 3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 33 hours ago. Tickets: 156/267 |
| 02:32.06 | kd3 | cart5... ah memories of the winamp5 version jump |
| 02:32.07 | Aqua | i frequent wowinterface |
| 02:32.09 | kd3 | >.> |
| 02:32.10 | Aqua | why i didn't see it i guess |
| 02:32.54 | AnduinLothar | So it seems command is now useless and seal of rightiousness is better... |
| 02:33.15 | Aqua | blizard screwed up pallies, nothing new |
| 02:33.17 | ccox_ | Shirik: pong |
| 02:33.37 | ckknight | Aqua: I'm a pally |
| 02:33.40 | DWSR | Finally. |
| 02:33.42 | DWSR | Jesus christ. |
| 02:33.49 | DWSR | Paladins need a grand slam nerf. |
| 02:34.10 | DWSR | did you see the PTR bug where protadins were unkillable because of the guardian talent? |
| 02:35.03 | DWSR | That kind of shit would only happen to paladins. |
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| 02:35.28 | Thunder_Child | qq moar |
| 02:35.30 | AnduinLothar | QQ moar. |
| 02:35.43 | DWSR | Q |
| 02:35.48 | AnduinLothar | pallies have sucked at pvp this season |
| 02:35.49 | DWSR | MOAR! |
| 02:36.12 | AnduinLothar | prot is better than ret for pvp now |
| 02:36.27 | DWSR | Yeah, because burst got such a huge nerf. |
| 02:36.36 | DWSR | I might respec my PvP spec to Aff for that reason. |
| 02:36.53 | DWSR | Om nom resilience. |
| 02:37.00 | DWSR | anyway, din. bbl |
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| 02:45.16 | m^rk | is there like any guilds thats like totally devoted to ui dev? |
| 02:46.56 | Thunder_Child | do you really want to join a guild of all level ones? |
| 02:47.12 | Aqua | haha so i'm not the only one that does that |
| 02:47.20 | Shirik | ccox: You said something |
| 02:47.24 | Shirik | to me |
| 02:47.28 | ccox | Shirik - yep |
| 02:47.31 | Shirik | what? |
| 02:47.44 | ccox | about resource tools and outfitter getting "internal errors" when I try to update them |
| 02:47.52 | Shirik | right |
| 02:48.25 | ccox | I also asked when you were going to update the minion |
| 02:48.55 | ccox | so many outstanding "doesn't recognize this", or "misrecognizes that" bugs... |
| 02:49.47 | Shirik | what is the internal error |
| 02:49.49 | Shirik | the log |
| 02:49.51 | Shirik | ~minion-logs |
| 02:49.52 | purl | well, minion-logs is %APPDATA%\MMOUI\Minion\log.txt; OSX: ~/Library/Application Support/Minion/log.txt; Linux: ~/.Minion/log.txt |
| 02:50.07 | Shirik | as for the "misrecognizes..." errors, I'm not really going to respond to that right now |
| 02:50.23 | Aqua | Shirik, watch it be my same error.. |
| 02:50.26 | Thunder_Child | *grin* |
| 02:50.40 | ccox | I see no such log |
| 02:50.51 | ccox | hang on |
| 02:50.55 | Shirik | is there any such folder? |
| 02:51.01 | Shirik | because without that folder, Minion can't run |
| 02:51.10 | Shirik | so either you're looking in the wrong place, or something's severely wrong |
| 02:51.14 | ccox | got it |
| 02:51.30 | ccox | sorry, dev system - too many links |
| 02:51.32 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_080709_054719.jpg <- i made myself a "enemy scanner" |
| 02:55.09 | ccox | Shirik - http://pastey.net/120153 |
| 02:57.27 | Shirik | that has been fixed for a while |
| 02:57.32 | Shirik | it will be in the next core release |
| 02:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | which I'm building a version of now, actually |
| 02:58.09 | ccox | Shirik - is minion going to auto-update? |
| 02:58.12 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:58.19 | Shirik | however it won't update itself without you telling it to |
| 02:58.23 | Aqua | ScytheBlade1: you want to hook me up with that so i can see if it fix's my issue |
| 02:58.26 | Shirik | this will not be a critical update |
| 02:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Aqua: not really, no, I don't even have a clue if it works yet |
| 02:58.55 | Aqua | just thought i'd ask |
| 02:59.04 | Aqua | i miss that |
| 02:59.09 | ScytheBlade1 | If all goes according to plan, Soon(TM) |
| 02:59.25 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:59.25 | purl | squishes ScytheBlade1 like a bug |
| 02:59.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That was too good to pass up and you know it |
| 02:59.54 | Aqua | bah... i want my old druid skin back |
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| 03:01.36 | Shirik | (19:58:50) (Thunder_Child) ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:01.36 | Shirik | (19:58:50) * purl squishes ScytheBlade1 like a bug |
| 03:01.37 | Shirik | How ironic |
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| 03:05.41 | Aqua | blizzard druid mana bar.... ugly as shit |
| 03:07.52 | Sesshu | hm.. which function does it use to get the mana? |
| 03:07.59 | Sesshu | it = druid mana bar |
| 03:09.50 | Shirik | btw ccox |
| 03:09.54 | Shirik | that's what you get for using a mac |
| 03:16.12 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 03:16.13 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:16.15 | kd3 | hrm. is there a way I can sort my favorites list? |
| 03:16.17 | Shirik | well that's kinda impressive |
| 03:16.24 | kd3 | other than by date? |
| 03:17.01 | Shirik | I just reset my router |
| 03:17.06 | Shirik | and didn't DC from Freenode |
| 03:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: in? |
| 03:19.44 | kd3 | wowi's page |
| 03:19.53 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, good question |
| 03:19.54 | kd3 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/filecpl.php?action=favorite |
| 03:20.03 | Cairenn | no |
| 03:20.21 | Cairenn | (jusdt checked( |
| 03:20.22 | Cairenn | ) |
| 03:20.26 | Cairenn | damn fingers |
| 03:24.31 | mikma | meh |
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| 03:24.42 | mikma | they need more practice |
| 03:25.11 | Sesshu_ | OMG! Reboot in 4!! |
| 03:26.25 | mikma | cairenn: http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/sinfest/3232/20090805.gif |
| 03:26.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:28.47 | Atriace | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 03:28.49 | purl | nevcairiel <n=hleppkes@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 14m 10s ago, saying: 'GetNumRaidMembers() > 0'. |
| 03:32.19 | AnduinLothar | does Auriaya Lease now? |
| 03:32.23 | AnduinLothar | leash |
| 03:32.31 | AnduinLothar | she despawned ont he steps... |
| 03:32.36 | Kraps | goes to check if the forums are collapsing under "instances" threads |
| 03:33.28 | Aqua | i know, blizzard needs to fix that |
| 03:37.29 | Kraps | they are going to... |
| 03:37.33 | Kraps | ...soon |
| 03:38.11 | Aqua | later than sooner |
| 03:39.53 | Kraps | what about instance queues? |
| 03:40.04 | Kraps | sounds interesting |
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| 04:40.27 | Sesshu | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_I6-Bv-p_j7U/Sk-qOnkyAkI/AAAAAAAABEE/r7WVsZjE5Gc/s1600-h/playgnome.jpg |
| 04:40.28 | Sesshu | uhh |
| 04:40.29 | Sesshu | xD |
| 04:41.00 | Thunder_Child | you might want to mark NSFW from nwo on |
| 04:41.02 | Thunder_Child | now* |
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| 04:42.12 | Sesshu | hm |
| 04:42.39 | Sesshu | found on olibith's blog |
| 04:42.40 | Sesshu | ^^ |
| 04:49.25 | A-KO | that is awesome |
| 04:49.26 | A-KO | hahahaha |
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| 04:50.07 | EmkioA | hi |
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| 04:51.03 | Cairenn | hi |
| 04:51.44 | EmkioA | im looking for information on /dump |
| 04:52.21 | EmkioA | any idea where i can get some? |
| 04:52.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 04:52.30 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 04:52.38 | Thunder_Child | oh, you pray to the porcelain goddes as well? |
| 04:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ask away. |
| 04:54.49 | Thunder_Child | goddess* |
| 04:56.57 | EmkioA | no one know about /dump? |
| 04:57.23 | Arrowmaster | yes but you need to ask a question first |
| 04:58.13 | EmkioA | how /dump is working? |
| 04:58.41 | ScytheBlade1 | How does it work? |
| 04:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ~framexml |
| 04:58.45 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 04:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 04:59.23 | Sesshu | huh |
| 04:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | EmkioA: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/test/AddOns/Blizzard_DebugTools/Dump.lua |
| 04:59.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ source code to the /dump stuff |
| 04:59.50 | Spellbinder | http://www.argalappen.se/imgs/lappar/0906/IMG_0002-Charles_Xavier.jpg |
| 04:59.55 | Sesshu | it seems that purl is a very usefull bot oO |
| 05:00.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Sesshu: very |
| 05:00.27 | EmkioA | lol working was bad word.... anyway i will look into the code thanx ;) |
| 05:00.45 | Thunder_Child | ~botsnack |
| 05:00.45 | purl | :), Thunder_Child |
| 05:00.50 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: MY EYES! |
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| 05:04.04 | Sesshu | uh ive found a usefull makro: /run while true do end |
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| 05:04.48 | DWSR2 | err |
| 05:05.27 | DWSR | anyone created a lua forkbomb yet? |
| 05:05.48 | Sesshu | forkbomb? |
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| 05:06.13 | Sesshu | and of course i mean macro* |
| 05:06.24 | DWSR | yes |
| 05:06.26 | DWSR | forkbomb. |
| 05:06.46 | Sesshu | ... |
| 05:07.20 | DWSR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forkbomb |
| 05:07.23 | ZorbaTHut | lua can't actually fork, so . . . no. |
| 05:07.59 | Sesshu | lol |
| 05:08.00 | Sesshu | ok.. |
| 05:08.14 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Oh, can't it? |
| 05:08.22 | DWSR | No way to emulate forking? |
| 05:08.26 | ZorbaTHut | not without the addition of extra libraries to it. |
| 05:08.57 | ZorbaTHut | if you're in an environment that allows os.execute(), you could always os.execute() something. but that's about it. and it wouldn't exactly be lua at that point. |
| 05:12.21 | EmkioA | is it normal if i texture:setpoint( "BOTTOMRIGHT", frame, "BOTTOMRIGHT" ), my texture is not exacly at bottomright of the frame? there is space between right border of the frame and my texture, i search why |
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| 05:12.54 | EmkioA | my texture is crop with SetTexCoord |
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| 05:20.07 | Silversage | Heyo. |
| 05:20.48 | bleeter | ! |
| 05:20.53 | Silversage | Postal has gone postal on me, and no update's been delivered. Can anyone recommend a mail mod that works? |
| 05:21.11 | DWSR | I'd like to find one myself. |
| 05:21.30 | Shirik | what exactly does a "mail mod" accomplish? |
| 05:21.50 | DWSR | Shirik: Grab all items/money from the mailbox? |
| 05:21.52 | Silversage | Core functionality is to pick up lots of mail in a singel button-click. |
| 05:21.54 | DWSR | Mass mailing, etc. |
| 05:22.47 | Silversage | Postal let me select just AH expired mail, or all AH mail, or I could select a checkbox and grab stuff. Or shift click to grab the attachements without even opening the mail. |
| 05:23.27 | Silversage | Also, one of my mods is breaking terribly on tooltip generation. Havent' figured out which one yet. |
| 05:24.11 | Silversage | Different question: Were hunter talents refunded right when 3.2 came out? |
| 05:24.56 | kol | the only error i got from postal was a hook on a function that didn't exist |
| 05:25.03 | kol | i commented it out and it works fine for me |
| 05:26.06 | Silversage | I was getting lots of errors ... I might have misattributed some to Postal. |
| 05:28.07 | kol | well its the only error i got on login, i only use it to open all |
| 05:29.06 | Silversage | Hmm. Okay. Either RatingBuster or Bagnon is doing something, probably RatingBuster since it's hooking the ToolTip code. |
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| 05:33.07 | Shefki | Silversage: Install a standalone copy of LibStatLogic-1.1 from curse. |
| 05:33.09 | Shefki | Silversage: Should fix it. |
| 05:33.47 | Sesshu | hm postal is great |
| 05:34.04 | Sesshu | maybe it will updated sometime |
| 05:34.13 | Sesshu | +be |
| 05:36.09 | Silversage | I switched from CT Mail mod which I'd used for years -- Postal was ready after the expansh earlier. And it's been great. |
| 05:36.46 | Silversage | Shefki: Need to do anything to guarantee that the standalone version loads first? |
| 05:36.48 | sacarasc | I like Postal. |
| 05:47.52 | Shirik | They... changed [flyable]? |
| 05:48.57 | m^rk | is there somewhere an explantion of the |cXXXXXXXX color contorl characters? |
| 05:49.04 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 05:49.13 | ScytheBlade1 | |cAARRGGBBtext goes here|r |
| 05:49.14 | zenzio | AARRGGBB or somesuch |
| 05:49.21 | ScytheBlade1 | colors 'text goes here' |
| 05:49.27 | m^rk | ok that explains it thx.. though it was RRGGBBAA hah |
| 05:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | and then resets the colors to default |
| 05:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | heh nope |
| 05:49.33 | ScytheBlade1 | AA first |
| 05:50.23 | Silversage | Shirik: Changed [flyable] in what way? |
| 05:50.37 | Silversage | Is it accounting for whether you've learned cold-weather flying in NR? |
| 05:50.40 | bleeter | oO works in Dalaran? |
| 05:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | works in Dalaran. |
| 05:51.10 | bleeter | hehe |
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| 05:55.26 | Shefki | Silversage: Nope |
| 05:55.40 | Silversage | k. |
| 05:55.43 | Silversage | Gah. Grid, too. |
| 05:55.57 | Silversage | "GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty". |
| 05:56.39 | Shirik | They changed [flyable] so that it does what people want it to do, not what it should do |
| 05:56.49 | Shirik | I personally don't like the change, but I know I'm in the minority |
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| 05:57.59 | Nechckn | aims RPG @ Shirik and his [flyable] issues. |
| 05:58.07 | xilcoy | I thought I saw a fix for GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty go by for that a couple of days ago |
| 05:58.29 | Nechckn | -click- |
| 05:58.55 | xilcoy | Something about the api now returning 4 levels of difficulty instead of 2 |
| 05:59.09 | Nechckn | realizes an actual shoulder launched missle would have been better, than the seond-hand garbage from Ebay |
| 06:06.34 | ZorbaTHut | why should flyable return true in dalaran? |
| 06:09.13 | Sesshu | above it should |
| 06:09.46 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Because Dalaran is technically flyable, depending on your altitude. |
| 06:10.28 | ZorbaTHut | then it should return true if you're high enough that you can fly |
| 06:10.31 | ZorbaTHut | and false if you're not |
| 06:11.35 | DWSR | Indeed. |
| 06:11.43 | DWSR | Bug? |
| 06:12.18 | ZorbaTHut | well, does it not do that? 'cause that'd be a bug |
| 06:12.26 | ZorbaTHut | but I'm curious why Shirik thinks the old behavior was better |
| 06:12.48 | ZorbaTHut | or why the old behavior would be better to a version that returns "true" iff you can mount/remain mounted. |
| 06:13.51 | Shefki | New version seems good to me. |
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| 06:14.12 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I hope it works as you suggest. |
| 06:14.17 | DWSR | Means I don't need to redo my mount macro. |
| 06:15.36 | Shirik | DWSR: Dalaran is not "technically flyable depending upon your altitude" |
| 06:15.38 | sacarasc | Minion didn't want to give me a working FuBar. |
| 06:15.39 | Shirik | It is flyable, period |
| 06:16.04 | EmkioA | i use SetTexCoord to "crop" a texture, the display is ok but the region, the texture take the same space, is there a way to remove the empty space taken by te croped texture? |
| 06:16.53 | EmkioA | when i aling 2 texture there is a blank space between them, i want to remove it, is there a way? |
| 06:16.59 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, except that it kicks you off your flying mount :P |
| 06:17.17 | Shirik | I don't believe it's [nokickoffflyingmountable] |
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| 06:17.31 | ZorbaTHut | no, it's [flyable] |
| 06:17.43 | ZorbaTHut | and generally, I would assume that if an area is described as "flyable", it means I can fly there |
| 06:17.46 | ZorbaTHut | you can't fly in Dalaran |
| 06:18.23 | DWSR | yes |
| 06:18.25 | ZorbaTHut | do you believe that caves and the inside of buildings should be marked as [flyable] because hey can you fly inside until the server notices and boots you off your mount? |
| 06:18.51 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: The difference is that you are still technically in Dalaran (according to the client and the server) even when you are high above it. |
| 06:18.59 | DWSR | [flyable] has no sense of altitude. |
| 06:19.26 | Sesshu | [flyable] return flase above dalaran |
| 06:19.34 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I think the proper solution would then be to fix [flyable] so it actually tells you whether or not you can fly there |
| 06:19.42 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Don't know if they can do that |
| 06:19.49 | ZorbaTHut | but I do feel like this situation is still vastly better than the old version |
| 06:19.52 | ZorbaTHut | well of course they *can* |
| 06:19.53 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> wait, did [flyable] actually change in 3.2? |
| 06:19.54 | Arrowmaster | they didnt didnt they? |
| 06:19.57 | ZorbaTHut | they own the server code :P |
| 06:20.05 | Arrowmaster | er they did didnt they? |
| 06:20.06 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: You know what I mean. |
| 06:20.19 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know if it's worthwhile for them to do so |
| 06:20.20 | DWSR | Sesshu seems to have confirmed that flyable still works as before. |
| 06:20.24 | DWSR | It's not really. |
| 06:20.25 | Shirik | You can definitely fly in Dalaran, ZorbaTHut |
| 06:20.31 | Sesshu | ah |
| 06:20.37 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, I can definitely fly inside a cave too |
| 06:20.44 | ZorbaTHut | I've done it to skip over monsters and annoying geometry |
| 06:20.45 | Arrowmaster | it was fixed on the PTR afaik |
| 06:20.46 | Shirik | no, that's just lag |
| 06:20.46 | DWSR | the only thing it stops is druids from dropping 50 feet and the shifting back to flight form. |
| 06:21.02 | Shirik | dalaran is not lag |
| 06:21.07 | DWSR | yes it is. |
| 06:21.08 | ZorbaTHut | what's your point? I can still do it, just like I can in Dalaran until I'm forced to stop |
| 06:21.11 | DWSR | Pure, distilled lag. |
| 06:21.25 | Shirik | In Dalaran it's intended behavior |
| 06:21.27 | Shirik | it a cave, it's not |
| 06:21.41 | NightHawkTheSane | by dalaran, you mean "specific sub-zones of dalaran" yes? |
| 06:21.49 | ZorbaTHut | yes, it's intended behavior that you cannot, in effect, fly in Dalaran in any useful manner |
| 06:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | as opposed to the "large portions of dalaran" which trigger restricted flying and kick you off, or most of the underbelly which is -actually- flagged noflyable |
| 06:22.23 | ZorbaTHut | you seem to feel that "fly for 10 seconds until the server forces you to stop, then you can't mount up again" is closer to "can fly" than "can't fly" |
| 06:22.30 | Shirik | it is |
| 06:22.33 | ZorbaTHut | I think it's quite obviously far closer to "can't fly" |
| 06:22.41 | Shirik | because, regardless of how long you can fly, it is certainly a "can fly" |
| 06:22.42 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Except that now you can fly. |
| 06:22.52 | DWSR | As long as you are high above Dalaran. |
| 06:22.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you're completely misinterpreting [flyable] |
| 06:22.55 | ZorbaTHut | it may be closer to "can fly" in implementation, but implementation is largely irrelevant |
| 06:22.59 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, as I said, I agree that's a bug |
| 06:23.09 | ZorbaTHut | I'm only talking about the area of dalaran that does not permit you to mount up |
| 06:23.09 | Shirik | You seem to think that, for some reason, "can fly" only counts if it's for some duration that you have arbitrarily chosen |
| 06:23.20 | Shirik | and I see no justification for that |
| 06:23.31 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, I would be willing to interpret "can fly" as "can mount up if you are stationary". |
| 06:23.35 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 06:23.40 | NightHawkTheSane | if everything worked as it should [flyable] would only ever be true in areas that allowed you to /cast a flying mount |
| 06:23.41 | ZorbaTHut | as in, "can begin to fly". "can initiate flight". |
| 06:23.41 | Shirik | Except that's not what the definition of "can fly" is |
| 06:23.47 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know about that |
| 06:23.50 | DWSR | I think it is. |
| 06:23.50 | ZorbaTHut | if I'm standing in Dalaran, I can't fly |
| 06:23.56 | Shirik | Does it say [mountable]? no... |
| 06:24.05 | Shirik | it says "I can fly" not "I can begin to fly" |
| 06:24.08 | DWSR | [mountable] works for ground mounts. |
| 06:24.08 | ZorbaTHut | I think it's pretty clear that it is impossible to fly if you are standing in Dalaran. |
| 06:24.12 | Shirik | Don't invent your own definition for words |
| 06:24.16 | DWSR | [flyable] for flying mounts. |
| 06:24.34 | DWSR | flyable is just the flying mount equivalent of mountable. |
| 06:24.40 | ZorbaTHut | why not? they're just words, and my definitions are as valid as yours are. |
| 06:24.40 | Shirik | But it should not be |
| 06:24.43 | NightHawkTheSane | in terms of the game [flyable] NECESSARILY means "can cast a flying mount successfully" |
| 06:24.43 | DWSR | iirc, mountable is yes in dalaran, but flyable isn't. |
| 06:24.49 | Shirik | My definitions are the ones that are actually in the dictionary, though |
| 06:24.52 | ZorbaTHut | we're both adding meaning on top that's not 100% implicit in the word |
| 06:24.55 | ZorbaTHut | you're just claiming that you're not |
| 06:24.56 | Shirik | your definitions just seem to be what the community wants it to be |
| 06:25.10 | ZorbaTHut | I mean I can hack the client and fly anywhere I want, so therefore it's flyable |
| 06:25.12 | ZorbaTHut | BAM! Flyable! |
| 06:25.22 | Shirik | Try to get this through your thick skull |
| 06:25.23 | Sesshu | lol |
| 06:25.27 | Shirik | There's a difference between intended behavior and not |
| 06:25.29 | ZorbaTHut | it's not [flyable_if_there_is_no_lag_with_intended_behavior] |
| 06:25.31 | Shirik | I already went over that with you |
| 06:25.43 | ZorbaTHut | I can fly in caves so those are flyable, I think it's clear my definition is the dictionary definition |
| 06:25.48 | Shirik | OK fine |
| 06:25.50 | DWSR | Shirik: flyable is the flying mount equivalent of mountable. |
| 06:25.51 | Shirik | I'll agree with that |
| 06:25.54 | Shirik | That makes your point no more valid |
| 06:25.57 | Shirik | now what? |
| 06:25.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you're wrong, period. but it doesn't matter, because neither you, nor anyone else is actually going to come to an agreement |
| 06:26.05 | ZorbaTHut | Alright. So now my point is: flyable, based on the dictionary definition, is worthless. |
| 06:26.12 | Shirik | That's funny, NightHawkTheSane, beacuse last week I was right |
| 06:26.14 | ZorbaTHut | Therefore, I'd rather the admins implemented something worthwhile. |
| 06:26.15 | NightHawkTheSane | can someone ACTUALLY answer the question of "did [flyable] change in 3.2" |
| 06:26.16 | Shirik | and everyone agreed with that |
| 06:26.21 | Sesshu | yes |
| 06:26.25 | DWSR | NHTS: Don't think so, no. |
| 06:26.34 | Wobin | ... |
| 06:26.36 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 06:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 06:26.40 | ZorbaTHut | Ideally, without a ten-word token that pins down exactly what literally it is. |
| 06:26.44 | Shirik | Yes, it changed NightHawkTheSane |
| 06:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Sesshu, DWSR: i command you two to get into a mud pit and fight it out |
| 06:26.48 | Shirik | Its function changed |
| 06:26.53 | ZorbaTHut | nhts, I believe so - from what I know, it now returns false in areas of Dalaran that you can't mount up in |
| 06:26.58 | Wobin | What does [flyable] do now? |
| 06:26.59 | ZorbaTHut | as well as in the sky above Dalaran |
| 06:27.00 | Shirik | It doesn't return shit |
| 06:27.04 | Shirik | it is not a function |
| 06:27.07 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, thats what i really wanted to know |
| 06:27.07 | DWSR | ^6 |
| 06:27.15 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, you know what I mean |
| 06:27.29 | Shirik | It does operate "properly" by ZorbaTHut's definition in Dalaran |
| 06:27.30 | ZorbaTHut | it can be described as a simple boolean property |
| 06:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm going to have to go test that and maybe update my mount addon then |
| 06:27.32 | DWSR | flyable is still false where you can't successfully cast a flying mount, i think. |
| 06:27.44 | Thunder_Child | instead of arguing about it you should all go into game, test it out, then never talk about it again. |
| 06:27.52 | DWSR | TC: Can't do. No WoW here atm. |
| 06:27.55 | Shirik | There's no reason to argue about what it does |
| 06:27.56 | DWSR | I would love to though |
| 06:27.58 | Shirik | we all agree on what it does |
| 06:28.01 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, actually, my debate isn't about what it does, it's about what it should do |
| 06:28.04 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child Claws in, kitty! |
| 06:28.12 | Thunder_Child | rawr? |
| 06:28.18 | Nechckn | meowwwww |
| 06:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | i assume it handles WG properly as well then? |
| 06:28.27 | durcyn | DWSR: [flyable]/IsFlyable() is/was still broken in Dalaran or Wintergrasp, unless it changed in 30200 |
| 06:28.41 | durcyn | or is that what this clusterfuck of an argument is about |
| 06:28.41 | Shirik | why the fuck would you call it ""Broken" |
| 06:28.44 | DWSR | What do you mean broken? |
| 06:28.52 | DWSR | Oh, nvm. |
| 06:28.54 | Shirik | It does EXACTLY what it says it does |
| 06:28.56 | DWSR | I just looked at my mount macro. |
| 06:28.59 | Shirik | or rather, it did |
| 06:29.07 | DWSR | Shirik: flyable was no in Krasus' Landing. |
| 06:29.10 | durcyn | it returned true where the cast is not allowed, thusly for all practical purposes broken |
| 06:29.10 | DWSR | Which is not true. |
| 06:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: well, this clusterfuck is about some idiotic discussion of what it should do |
| 06:29.23 | durcyn | DWSR: that was a bug on the zone transition from the hallway |
| 06:29.25 | Shirik | durcyn: Practical, maybe |
| 06:29.26 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: what i gather is that it did change in 3.2 |
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| 06:29.30 | Shirik | But that's not the point |
| 06:29.47 | durcyn | okay |
| 06:29.49 | Shirik | You don't go name a function something and then say "You know, that serves no practical purpose, I'll have it do this instead..." and then not change the function name |
| 06:29.55 | durcyn | 'fucking badly designed and useless' |
| 06:30.22 | Sesshu | this discussion realy makes me laughing |
| 06:30.34 | DWSR | It really makes you laughing huh? |
| 06:30.38 | Sesshu | really* |
| 06:30.38 | DWSR | That's awesome. |
| 06:30.42 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, sure ya do, when the function has an obvious meaning based on the name |
| 06:31.00 | Shirik | it's obviously not obvious here |
| 06:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | (as an aside, the only reason IsFlyable() ever returned true in dal/wg is because they didnt want people instantly dismounting and falling to their deaths) |
| 06:31.13 | NightHawkTheSane | otherwise the zone would have been flagged as noflyable from the get-go |
| 06:31.18 | Shirik | I have always argued that the old behavior of [flyable] was correct |
| 06:31.20 | ZorbaTHut | I dunno, you are the only person I've ever talked to who thinks it should be true everywhere |
| 06:31.29 | Shirik | you obviously don't read this channel much then |
| 06:31.30 | DWSR | NHTS: But isn't IsFlyable() different than actually dismounting? |
| 06:31.39 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: er, wha? |
| 06:31.53 | DWSR | I mean, I think of flyable as "can I successfully cast a flying mount?" |
| 06:32.06 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what it should mean |
| 06:32.06 | DWSR | i.e. the equivalent of mountable. |
| 06:32.15 | NightHawkTheSane | they had to sort of modify it for dal & wg |
| 06:32.16 | DWSR | right now it means "can I fly here"? |
| 06:32.25 | DWSR | Well that's fucking borked. |
| 06:32.26 | Shirik | no, it did mean that |
| 06:32.34 | Shirik | and now it means what you're describing |
| 06:32.39 | DWSR | oh. |
| 06:32.44 | Shirik | but if that's what it does, then the word "flyable" is totally off |
| 06:32.48 | NightHawkTheSane | because if IsFlyable() returned false in dal/wg "properly", you'd have auto-dismounted when flying over the city at any height |
| 06:32.51 | NightHawkTheSane | and gone splat |
| 06:32.51 | Arrowmaster | it used to be zone wide, mountable is not zone wide |
| 06:33.07 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: your mom is zone wide. |
| 06:33.33 | Sesshu | uh |
| 06:33.37 | Sesshu | ! |
| 06:34.59 | DWSR | Shirik: I dunno. |
| 06:35.09 | DWSR | what the hell you going to call it? flyingmountable? |
| 06:35.24 | Wobin | !vtolenabled |
| 06:35.31 | DWSR | lol |
| 06:35.35 | Shirik | I don't care what you call it, but I know for a fact that name would not pass where I work at the very least |
| 06:35.41 | Shirik | because its name does not say what it does |
| 06:35.47 | DWSR | tbh. |
| 06:35.47 | NightHawkTheSane | blizzard isn't where you work, get over it |
| 06:35.57 | DWSR | [mountable] should return flying, ground, or no. |
| 06:36.09 | Wobin | [shaggable]? |
| 06:36.10 | DWSR | and then [flyable] should be yes or no and indicate where you can fly and not get dismounted. |
| 06:36.18 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: that was a completely pointless statement to make |
| 06:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | so was "well where i work, blah blah blah" |
| 06:36.35 | Shirik | Are you saying Blizzard should follow moronic policies (or none?) |
| 06:36.39 | Wobin | shirik: aaaand? |
| 06:36.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm saying your companies' polices have no bearing on blizzards policies |
| 06:36.53 | Shirik | There is no reason to say "They don't need to follow a good naming convention!" |
| 06:36.53 | Nechckn | Stay the course, Shirik, "none". |
| 06:37.08 | Shirik | Hell, let's just name everything with varying combinations of the letter a |
| 06:37.09 | Nechckn | why make up things like policies now? |
| 06:37.12 | Shirik | We'll call the first function "a" |
| 06:37.14 | Shirik | then "aa" |
| 06:37.17 | Shirik | then maybe "A" |
| 06:37.24 | Sesshu | the big A |
| 06:37.29 | Shirik | When we run out of character limit, we can start using accented As |
| 06:37.30 | Sesshu | it sees YOU |
| 06:37.34 | Nechckn | nah, that would be a policy |
| 06:37.54 | Shirik | Would you prefer smash hand on keyboard naming convention? |
| 06:37.56 | Nechckn | just call them any string of whatever comes out of your keyboard |
| 06:37.59 | Nechckn | Yes! |
| 06:38.00 | Shirik | I think that would be a policy too |
| 06:38.05 | Nechckn | kja;ldad;kjsaa483u430843q4 |
| 06:38.07 | Shirik | Unless we don't limit what limb you use |
| 06:38.12 | Nechckn | that is function 1 |
| 06:38.19 | Nechckn | uerw09qq rq34;utq function 2 |
| 06:38.25 | Nechckn | =) |
| 06:38.39 | Sesshu | everyone knows what these functions does |
| 06:38.45 | Sesshu | :) |
| 06:38.47 | Wobin | I'm glad you use descriptive function names |
| 06:38.59 | Shirik | it's actually a very long acronym |
| 06:39.36 | Nechckn | like naming the data directory WTF and making users all mad when they think you are making fun of them! |
| 06:40.09 | Sesshu | hm |
| 06:40.15 | Sesshu | do not does-.- i'm stupid |
| 06:40.42 | durcyn | DWSR: except macros don't really have syntax for tertiary conditions like you describe |
| 06:41.11 | Shirik | macros are fundamentally broken anyway |
| 06:41.20 | Shirik | such as their arbitrary 255 character limit |
| 06:41.24 | DWSR | durcyn: if IsFlyable() == flying then elseif IsFlyable() == ground else /stopcast end |
| 06:41.27 | Shirik | which is enforced nowhere in the UI except in entry |
| 06:41.53 | DWSR | Shirik: Is it enforced in server storage? |
| 06:42.01 | Shirik | they aren't stored on the server |
| 06:42.05 | Shirik | unless that's been changed finally |
| 06:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i think they changed that |
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| 06:42.19 | Shirik | About time |
| 06:42.21 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe that was just bindings.. |
| 06:42.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i forget |
| 06:42.36 | DWSR | Macros have been stored on the server for a few patches now |
| 06:42.48 | DWSR | I believe |
| 06:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i havent logged into wow from a different computer in ages |
| 06:43.17 | durcyn | DWSR: except you can't CSBN forms, so you have to /use [condition] truething ; falsething |
| 06:43.33 | DWSR | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=11162847363&ST=US-3957693-qtUXPdrrII57GG6YPtOvJCF6Pm46Q0mYvW7 |
| 06:43.39 | durcyn | for non-druids i suppose it would work well enough |
| 06:43.45 | Shirik | still, text compresses well. It would be difficult to argue that macros take up a significant chunk of space. And if it's that bad, then give each person a quota for macro storage and leave it at that |
| 06:43.47 | durcyn | but it's kind of moot anyway now |
| 06:43.49 | Shirik | don't force each slot to be 255 characters |
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| 06:44.03 | Shirik | you can have 1x 10000 character macro, or 10x 1000 character macros |
| 06:44.09 | Shirik | or whatever combination you want |
| 06:44.14 | NightHawkTheSane | well, doesn't 255 fit neatly in a varchar db field? :P |
| 06:44.35 | Shirik | so does 8192 (or, for some databases, any other number you want) |
| 06:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i know |
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| 06:45.28 | zenzio | isn't MySQL's varchar limit 2^16? |
| 06:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | it is a pretty arbitrary limit |
| 06:45.47 | Shirik | MySQL is arbitrary |
| 06:45.48 | DWSR | zenzio: They are using Oracle, afaik |
| 06:45.51 | NightHawkTheSane | but its not terribly unreasonable anymore. 90% of macros wont hit it |
| 06:45.58 | DWSR | They sure as hell aren't using MySQL. |
| 06:45.59 | zenzio | DWSR: I was making a detour comment |
| 06:46.16 | DWSR | zenzio: Yes, I was hard-countering your detour |
| 06:46.22 | Shirik | you better not have a varchar field that big, tbh, anyway |
| 06:46.23 | zenzio | sure you were |
| 06:46.25 | Sesshu | lol |
| 06:46.40 | Shirik | if it's that big it should be text/blob/whatever |
| 06:46.43 | Shirik | not fixed |
| 06:47.07 | Shirik | and god help you if you're trying to index that column |
| 06:47.37 | DWSR | Shirik: Nom nom nom |
| 06:47.42 | DWSR | I'm in ur tablez. |
| 06:48.05 | Shirik | So for the past week, my phone has been acting incredibly slow |
| 06:48.14 | Shirik | I finally figured out what it was today |
| 06:48.25 | Shirik | Apparently Windows Live takes up 80% of the processing resources |
| 06:48.32 | DWSR | rofl? |
| 06:48.36 | Shirik | It got so slow to the point where I couldn't even make phone calls |
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| 06:48.49 | Shirik | I would take the phone out of the holdster and it would sit there with the little hourglass while the phone is ringing |
| 06:48.56 | Shirik | and not respond until it went to answering machine |
| 06:49.04 | Shirik | Killed Windows Live and it's blazing again |
| 06:49.14 | Shirik | Microsoft scares me |
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| 06:54.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|zZz, Microsoft scares entire countries. |
| 06:55.01 | DWSR | And whole continents. |
| 06:55.17 | DWSR | can you saypeee yew? |
| 06:55.47 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: so about 40% of one core to play 720p h264 using vdpau, that sound about right or do i probably have something wrong? |
| 06:56.15 | sacarasc | You have something wrong. Should be closer to 2%. |
| 06:57.01 | Arrowmaster | wonder if its the subtitles causing vdpau not to work |
| 06:57.48 | sacarasc | mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau,ffvc1vdpau,ffwmv3vdpau -vf ass youranimu.mkv |
| 06:57.55 | sacarasc | Wait... |
| 06:57.58 | sacarasc | mplayer -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau,ffvc1vdpau,ffwmv3vdpau, -vf ass youranimu.mkv |
| 06:58.02 | sacarasc | Go go comma. |
| 06:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: how fast is the core? |
| 06:58.14 | ScytheBlade1 | and full mplayer options would be nice |
| 06:58.25 | Arrowmaster | 2.66ghz but its probably only at 1.6ghz right now |
| 06:58.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Should be closer to 2% then ;) |
| 06:59.38 | sacarasc | I wish my video card supported vdpau. |
| 06:59.55 | DWSR | I'm going to assume that a 9800GTX supports whatever the hell vdpau is. |
| 07:00.07 | DWSR | Although, I'm probably fulfilling the ignorant consumer stereotype really well. |
| 07:00.10 | sacarasc | Probably does. |
| 07:00.13 | ScytheBlade1 | pastey your mplayer command + all of the output down to the play timer |
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| 07:01.27 | DWSR | Yeah, it does. |
| 07:02.06 | Arrowmaster | what sacarasc gave me didnt work |
| 07:02.46 | ScytheBlade1 | 02:59 < ScytheBlade1> pastey your mplayer command + all of the output down to the play timer |
| 07:03.25 | Arrowmaster | i cant even see all of the output in my buffer |
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| 07:03.44 | ScytheBlade1 | erm, that is a problem |
| 07:04.33 | DWSR | >> is your friend. |
| 07:04.39 | Arrowmaster | bottem says FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo) |
| 07:05.26 | ScytheBlade1 | mplayer -vo help |
| 07:05.33 | ScytheBlade1 | make sure that vdpau is listed |
| 07:05.51 | ScytheBlade1 | same with -vc help |
| 07:05.52 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 07:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | though you'll probably want to | grep vdpau |
| 07:06.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah i see it |
| 07:07.41 | ScytheBlade1 | try removing the -vf option then |
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| 07:08.08 | Arrowmaster | that works |
| 07:08.35 | Arrowmaster | 4% cpu |
| 07:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | hit j for subtitles |
| 07:08.40 | ScytheBlade1 | that sounds right |
| 07:08.54 | Arrowmaster | its underclocked itself to 1.6ghz right now anyway |
| 07:09.06 | A-KO | haha |
| 07:09.56 | A-KO | I just got my deviate hatchling |
| 07:09.58 | A-KO | on 3rd WC run |
| 07:13.52 | Arrowmaster | hmm it doesnt want to let me open more than one |
| 07:14.00 | Arrowmaster | should it? |
| 07:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 07:14.24 | ScytheBlade1 | vdpau locks the GPU |
| 07:14.34 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 07:18.44 | Arrowmaster | wish i could tell what cpu was what |
| 07:18.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hm? |
| 07:19.01 | Arrowmaster | im not sure which are the HT ones |
| 07:19.12 | ScytheBlade1 | every other |
| 07:19.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 0 is real, 1 is HT |
| 07:19.18 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
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| 07:19.55 | Arrowmaster | thats what i thought but the schudler stuff in dmesg makes it look like 0-3 are real and 4-7 are ht |
| 07:21.38 | Freebaser | quad cores support HT? |
| 07:21.46 | Arrowmaster | i7's do |
| 07:22.43 | Thunder_Child | and unlike p4 they do it well |
| 07:24.47 | Freebaser | wouldnt it require a problem to use more than two threads to be effective? so its not used unless as programs need 8 threads!?!? |
| 07:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | !g wikipedia hyperthreading |
| 07:25.26 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Hyper-threading - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading> |
| 07:25.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sure that will answer a lot of questions |
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| 07:29.18 | ZorbaTHut | freebaser, you can also just run multiple programs at the same time |
| 07:29.34 | ZorbaTHut | my build system for QH data runs five separate processes simultaneously |
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| 07:30.22 | Arrowmaster | im playing the first 8 eps of Macross Frontier 720p bd rip all at once and all 8 cores still arent at 100% |
| 07:31.59 | Thunder_Child | i have 10 1080p movies runing and am using ~20% of 8 cores |
| 07:32.00 | nevcairiel | my c2d can already play a 720p file at like 20% cpu usage |
| 07:32.07 | nevcairiel | of one core |
| 07:32.08 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 07:32.38 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: i dont think any except the first are using a decent decoder |
| 07:33.14 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, they all look the same |
| 07:33.27 | Arrowmaster | no i ment on mine |
| 07:33.31 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 07:34.09 | nevcairiel | CoreAVC with CUDA support, and you get even more in :p |
| 07:34.24 | Thunder_Child | i was using VLC |
| 07:37.53 | sacarasc | I could never get CoreAVC for Linux working, which was a pity. |
| 07:38.20 | nevcairiel | they are still actively working on improving the linux support, afaik |
| 07:39.30 | Freebaser | its not open source, so linux fail |
| 07:39.49 | Arrowmaster | its still the best h264 decoder |
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| 08:31.08 | Thunder_Child | needs more music videos |
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| 08:33.14 | Industrial | Thunder_Child: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H8zWl9cOmc&fmt=18 |
| 08:35.12 | Thunder_Child | ummm...no Industrial, that is not a music video. that is just a video of a concert |
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| 08:37.36 | Thunder_Child | "ReAn enters #wowuidev (n=rean@d137-186-212-222.abhsia.telus.net)" |
| 08:37.42 | ReAn | thx |
| 08:37.45 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 08:50.07 | Vilkku | every time I cast LHW or stop casting it I get a message saying "You are not in a party" |
| 08:50.19 | Vilkku | or any heal for that matter |
| 08:50.43 | Vilkku | possible to find out what causes it without enabling/disabling every mod? |
| 08:52.21 | mikma | cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/box_cat.jpg |
| 08:52.32 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:52.56 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:53.14 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around with Fisker |
| 08:53.28 | Industrial | puts Fisker buttside-up in a box |
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| 09:06.32 | Mikk | Whoa something really funky is going on with itemlinks |
| 09:06.39 | Mikk | I'm taking things out of my mailbox, and the links randomly change |
| 09:06.44 | Mikk | 10:48:56 |cff1eff00|Hitem:36050:0:0:0:0:0:-8:-2052980689:76|h[Crystalsong Bracelets of the Whale]|h|r |
| 09:06.47 | Mikk | 10:49:15 |cff1eff00|Hitem:36050:0:0:0:0:0:-8:-2052980680:76|h[Crystalsong Bracelets of the Whale]|h|r |
| 09:06.52 | Mikk | "89"->"80" |
| 09:07.04 | Mikk | 10:50:59 |cff1eff00|Hitem:36156:0:0:0:0:0:-18:1209139262:76|h[Wendigo Boots of Agility]|h|r |
| 09:07.05 | Mikk | 10:51:28 |cff1eff00|Hitem:36156:0:0:0:0:0:-18:1209139275:76|h[Wendigo Boots of Agility]|h|r |
| 09:07.05 | Mikk | "62"->"75" |
| 09:07.12 | Mikk | This only happens to maybe 1 out of .. 3? 4? |
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| 09:08.04 | Kalroth | Green items, yeah? |
| 09:08.46 | Kalroth | Some of the greens are a bit odd, since they got the same name and itemlevel, but different IDs - you can usually see that by stats |
| 09:09.17 | Mikk | So you're thinking it's the changed wotlk randomstat items that are giving me grief? |
| 09:09.19 | Kalroth | the stat IDs, not the item IDs |
| 09:09.22 | Arrowmaster | for items with negative suffix id's, the unique id is used to determine the stats on the item |
| 09:09.28 | Kalroth | yeah |
| 09:09.53 | Kalroth | but it's still different within the same group |
| 09:10.16 | Kalroth | meaning "of the Whale" can be like 31 spi and 47 sta, but also 30 spi and 49 sta (or similar) |
| 09:10.29 | Arrowmaster | no it cant |
| 09:10.36 | Kalroth | I've had greens where it was, so :p |
| 09:10.39 | Arrowmaster | not that exact one |
| 09:10.49 | Mikk | we'll see then.. i'm just about to get into items mailed to me from after the patch |
| 09:10.50 | Arrowmaster | if one goes up they all go up or stay the same |
| 09:10.55 | Arrowmaster | one wont go down and the other up |
| 09:11.33 | Kalroth | not my experience, but I must admit that it's been a while since I last had identical greens |
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| 09:12.23 | Arrowmaster | its like graphing out 2 or 3 forumlas, X is the uniqueid and Y of each forumla is the value for that stat |
| 09:13.08 | Kalroth | I'm 99.99% sure that even if you got two green items with the same item level and of the same type, the stats can still differ |
| 09:13.16 | Arrowmaster | yes they can |
| 09:13.24 | Kalroth | I'm less sure about which way they differ :p |
| 09:13.38 | Arrowmaster | but you cant have one with 39/40 and the other with 40/39 |
| 09:14.02 | Kalroth | you're probably right and it's 39/40 and other with 38/38 or something |
| 09:15.33 | Mikk | mmmyeah an erroring item that just came out of the mail |
| 09:15.38 | Mikk | was +65 spirit in the mailbox |
| 09:15.41 | Mikk | now +81 spirit |
| 09:16.10 | Kalroth | Are you hacking the server, Mikk?! Reported! |
| 09:16.36 | Mikk | bounces it back and forth some more!!!! |
| 09:16.51 | Kalroth | soon you'll have a +999 spirit item! |
| 09:17.08 | Mikk | Odd though.. I mailed it yesterday |
| 09:17.18 | Mikk | So should have been upgraded already |
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| 09:20.19 | Mikk | tries sending it back after taking it out, making note of current stats |
| 09:20.41 | Mikk | if this is bugged and it gets boosted again, i'm going to laugh myself silly :P |
| 09:22.11 | ZorbaTHut | you'll still be using this green at level 100, two expansions later |
| 09:22.42 | Mikk | yeah i've gotten into mails received AFTER the "Orphan Matron Aria: URGENT ACTION BULLETIN" message now |
| 09:22.47 | Mikk | still getting rewritten itemlinks |
| 09:28.43 | Mikk | Okay... I can tell you what happens now... |
| 09:28.49 | Mikk | When you stick the upgraded items in the mail |
| 09:28.51 | Mikk | They get downgraded |
| 09:29.01 | Mikk | Then when you take them out again, they get re-upgraded |
| 09:29.04 | Mikk | >.< |
| 09:29.47 | Mikk | (I just re-mailed an item I had problems with. In the mail, it had old stats AGAIN.) |
| 09:30.31 | Lukian | sooo.. the mail server is using a different item database? o.O |
| 09:30.54 | Mikk | The same happens with AH it seems |
| 09:31.15 | Mikk | I'm buying stuff on the AH for disenchant (via auctioneer) |
| 09:31.25 | Mikk | But Baggins_Auctioneer doesn't recognize them as having been bought |
| 09:31.30 | Mikk | (Since their itemlinks have changed) |
| 09:32.04 | ZorbaTHut | so that's why that's been happening a lot lately |
| 09:32.13 | ZorbaTHut | explains a lot actually |
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| 09:33.09 | Mikk | It'll only be randomstat wotlk items, mind |
| 09:33.31 | Mikk | Not "greens" in general, nor "wotlk greens" in general |
| 09:33.48 | ZorbaTHut | I buy stuff in huge bulk. I haven't noticed a pattern, but I haven't been looking for one either |
| 09:34.02 | ZorbaTHut | it would not surprise me at all if that was what was happening |
| 09:34.06 | Mikk | Yeah same, I buy hundreds of meltables a day |
| 09:34.24 | Mikk | Baggins doesn't classify them properly, and Auc-AutoMagic doesn't mail them off properly like it should |
| 09:35.02 | ZorbaTHut | that many don't even exist on my server, sadly |
| 09:35.06 | ZorbaTHut | but the nice thing is I have no competition |
| 09:35.12 | ZorbaTHut | win some lose some |
| 09:36.10 | Mikk | I run 2 accs. My AH toon is parked at the AH 12+ hours a day. I have no competition .... anymore :P |
| 09:36.26 | ZorbaTHut | haha |
| 09:36.33 | ZorbaTHut | I just do a scan every 24 hours or so for new stuff |
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| 09:43.04 | Mikk | Methinks I will have to add support for this shit to LibBagUtils |
| 09:43.15 | Mikk | So it can recognize old==new fuzzily |
| 09:43.35 | Mikk | starts analyzing bitpatterns... zzz... |
| 09:44.40 | mikma | mikk: why dont you code something useful for change |
| 09:50.36 | Mikk | mikma is channeling Fisker, huhu |
| 09:51.44 | mikma | error: not enough trolls |
| 09:51.58 | mikma | that reminds me of the instancerun we did last night |
| 09:52.04 | mikma | we had 4x friends and 1 random |
| 09:52.17 | mikma | the random was like "can we do this can we do that" and we didn't reply to him |
| 09:52.25 | mikma | then he said "or are you too elite to respond" |
| 09:53.08 | mikma | that one raised some lols out of us and we just went something like: "user error: keyboard not found" and did the achievements he had been whining from the start without even telling him |
| 09:53.49 | mikma | ofc we didn't bother to write, 4 of us were in the same vent |
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| 10:07.23 | mikma | adys: so, you have 0 ways of getting the spellID with class and level? |
| 10:11.12 | Mikk | Followups: The high 16 bits of the uniqueID stay constant, it's the low 16 bits (the scaling factor) that flipflops |
| 10:11.23 | Mikk | Followup 2: This shit also happens when you put items in guild banks. |
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| 10:28.56 | Mikk | the story so far: http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemString#3.2_wotlk_randomstat_items_changing_their_suffix_factors |
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| 11:14.42 | EmkioA | Hi, im new to lua coding, and im working with 4 texture, i want to align them but i must "crop" them with settexcoord, after the crop the region of the texture is egal at the size of the original texture, is this normal? is there a way to have a texture of the size of the crop region? The problem is if i use "texture2:setpoint( "BOTTOM", texture1 "TOP" ) there is a gap between both texture |
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| 11:33.37 | mikma | emkioa: SetPoint("BOTTOM",texture1,"TOP",x,y) |
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| 11:55.50 | EmkioA | mikma: ok, thanx, this was my idea but i just want to know if the "gap" was normal... |
| 11:56.37 | mikma | emkioa: it's normal |
| 12:00.58 | EmkioA | ok thanx alot |
| 12:01.04 | EmkioA | ++ |
| 12:06.06 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/08/cool_when_lasers_and_sharpies.php |
| 12:09.48 | Cruciformer | mikk: ping me when u get back |
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| 12:15.30 | Mikk | Cruciformer: pong |
| 12:15.41 | Cruciformer | does anyone know if they fixed xt-002 with any of these recent hotfixes and restarts? |
| 12:16.01 | Mikk | was broken last night that's for sure |
| 12:16.05 | Cruciformer | mikk: hey there :) I was wondering if you had a chance to look at that other diff I sent and if there are any major issues with it? |
| 12:16.08 | Mikk | nonstop add spewage in normal mode |
| 12:16.16 | Mikk | and grav+lightbombs cast DURING tantrum |
| 12:16.20 | Mikk | (in hardmode) |
| 12:16.23 | Cruciformer | damn ok so no fix for xt002 then ... bugger. |
| 12:16.31 | sacarasc | The restart at about 0500 CEST was meant to fix it in EU. |
| 12:17.07 | Cruciformer | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.14 | Mikk | Cruciformer: i've integrated the CTL patch you sent me and written testcases for it. should be commiting it soonish. |
| 12:17.18 | Mikk | haven't looked at acecomm yet |
| 12:17.47 | Mikk | Cruciformer: i can tell you that 5 healers is not enough to fix the mess in hardmode. we powered through normal mode though. total aoefest. |
| 12:18.03 | Mikk | kinda made it interesting =) |
| 12:18.32 | Cruciformer | kk. Something that came up during yesterday's chat I never got an answer to. Is pcall() expensive? Is there any reason we couldnt have just used pcall versus putting the callback fn at the end of the loop? |
| 12:18.44 | Cruciformer | mikk: yeah we got that nerf bombot achievement in 2 seconds flat. |
| 12:18.44 | Mikk | it's not hugely expensive |
| 12:19.00 | Mikk | but i like to optimize |
| 12:19.26 | Cruciformer | ok ... just wanted to check why. I prefer your approach but wanted to understand why its an optimisation. |
| 12:19.47 | Mikk | also pcall means your callstack is shot. |
| 12:20.15 | Mikk | it doesn't record the callstack inside the pcall |
| 12:20.34 | Mikk | xpcall() is of course nicer that way since you can provide an error handler |
| 12:20.39 | Mikk | but then you can't provide arguments easily instead |
| 12:20.50 | Mikk | so you end up creating function closures, and that's costly |
| 12:21.08 | Mikk | gifv xpcall() with function arguments :< |
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| 12:24.32 | Cruciformer | is that what that safecall() trickery is all about in many of the ace3 libs? |
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| 12:30.25 | foxlit | Cruciformer: it's xpcall that behaves like pcall |
| 12:30.41 | mikma | vistacall |
| 12:31.22 | foxlit | pcall allows you to catch any errors a function might generate. Unfortunately, you cannot run code in the context of the error, so all you get is the message string (and no debug stack). |
| 12:32.02 | nevcairiel | vanilla lua already patched xpcall to allow arguments, but getting that into WoWLua .. no luck :D |
| 12:32.04 | foxlit | xpcall allows you to denote a function to act as an error handler; that function is executed in the same context that raises the error -- so it has access to the proper callstack. |
| 12:32.31 | foxlit | nevcairiel: er. |
| 12:32.52 | foxlit | They may have declared the intention to do so. |
| 12:33.15 | nevcairiel | i thought i saw the change somewhere too |
| 12:33.29 | foxlit | Lua 5.1.4 Copyright (C) 1994-2008 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 12:33.29 | foxlit | > =xpcall(print, function() end, "foo"); |
| 12:33.29 | foxlit | true |
| 12:33.43 | foxlit | (there's an empty line before true, no "foo") |
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| 12:37.37 | Ycarene | I wonder if one could finagle the portage code to manage wow addons. |
| 12:38.11 | foxlit | Unfortunately, you'd have very little cooperative sources. |
| 12:39.21 | Ycarene | Why's that? |
| 12:39.30 | sacarasc | Because portage sucks. |
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| 12:40.15 | foxlit | I'm thinking more of the human validation on major addon hosting sites -- you'll simply not be able to download addons automatically. |
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| 12:42.02 | Ycarene | I'm thinking of avoiding pulling from addon sites, set up a repository that addon authors can upload to (no addon would be added without the authors permission). |
| 12:42.03 | Cruciformer | foxlit: ah ok thanks for the clarification |
| 12:43.06 | foxlit | lua> function a(n, m) if n > 0 then return math.random(m), a(n-1,m); end end a(10, 5); |
| 12:43.06 | lua_bot | foxlit: No output |
| 12:43.11 | foxlit | lua> function a(n, m) if n > 0 then return math.random(m), a(n-1,m); end end print(a(10, 5)); |
| 12:43.11 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1, 3, 5, 1, 4, 1, 2, 4, 1, 1 |
| 12:43.35 | Grum | lua> function a(n, m) if n > 0 then return math.random(m), a(n-1,m); end end print(a(10, 5)); |
| 12:43.35 | lua_bot | Grum: 2, 3, 5, 3, 4, 1, 1, 3, 3, 1 |
| 12:43.39 | Grum | omg it was different! |
| 12:44.20 | foxlit | lua> ("%q %q %q"):format(strsplit(",%s*", "One foo, two foos, three foos")); |
| 12:44.20 | lua_bot | foxlit: "One foo" " two foo" "" |
| 12:44.59 | pb_ee1 | lua> "" |
| 12:45.00 | lua_bot | pb_ee1: No output |
| 12:45.15 | pb_ee1 | lua> "No output" |
| 12:45.15 | lua_bot | pb_ee1: No output |
| 12:45.59 | Pneu^ | lua> ("tuptuo oN"):reverse() |
| 12:45.59 | lua_bot | Pneu^: No output |
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| 13:04.36 | p3lim6270 | piece of shit computer |
| 13:04.55 | p3lim6270 | just set 8 git svn clones up, and i get a bluescreen |
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| 13:23.09 | foxlit | Are there seriously no training dummies in dalaran? |
| 13:23.57 | p3lim6270 | no |
| 13:24.01 | p3lim6270 | only in faction cities |
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| 13:24.42 | p3lim | Anyone know how the new autocomplete function works? |
| 13:24.49 | nevcairiel | there were some in the beta, and i thought for a long time they made it to live .. but somehow they removed them :P |
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| 13:25.40 | foxlit | probably didn't want the combat event spam |
| 13:26.11 | p3lim | dalaran would be even more laggy with them |
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| 13:26.15 | p3lim | enough as it is |
| 13:26.38 | p3lim | anyways, in beta they were located near the arena stuff in the sewers |
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| 13:38.04 | Cruciformer | mikk: Still there? |
| 13:38.22 | Cruciformer | or nevcairiel |
| 13:42.59 | Cruciformer | nvm it was a bad idea. |
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| 13:51.24 | mikma | if anyone can tell me how can i remove " name:'(random text)', " with gsub i would be appreciated :O |
| 13:52.50 | dardack | what you mean remove? remove what? |
| 13:54.00 | mikma | name:'(random text)', -> "" |
| 13:54.23 | dardack | you want to remove all random text and just have name: |
| 13:54.30 | mikma | all of that |
| 13:54.40 | mikma | and there's like 120 of them in the same string |
| 13:54.59 | mikma | i need to get rid of them all. my code will stop after first one for some reason |
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| 13:57.49 | dardack | so wouldn't it just be newstring = string.gsub(oldstring, "name:(text)", "")? |
| 13:58.10 | mikma | sure, but the text changes |
| 13:58.12 | mikma | that's the problem |
| 13:59.10 | mikma | ah, was missing a + ^^ |
| 13:59.13 | dardack | oh |
| 13:59.14 | dardack | you want {(.-)} |
| 13:59.39 | dardack | so newstring=string.gsub(oldstring, "name:{(.-)}", "") |
| 13:59.42 | dardack | i believe |
| 13:59.46 | mikma | let's try that one |
| 13:59.54 | dardack | you need pattern matching |
| 14:00.19 | dardack | although |
| 14:00.26 | mikma | and, that didn't do anything |
| 14:00.38 | dardack | not that |
| 14:00.48 | dardack | so newstring=string.gsub(oldstring, "name:((.-))", "") |
| 14:00.52 | dardack | i think |
| 14:01.00 | dardack | there are () after name: yes? |
| 14:01.05 | mikma | nope |
| 14:01.22 | dardack | oh |
| 14:01.22 | dardack | so it's name:atadtasd? |
| 14:01.25 | mikma | the problem was this, name:'Nature's Swiftness', |
| 14:01.39 | mikma | string.gsub(stringfoo,"name:'(.-)',","") |
| 14:01.42 | mikma | this did the trick |
| 14:01.50 | dardack | well |
| 14:02.00 | dardack | yea |
| 14:02.04 | dardack | was just gonna do that |
| 14:02.12 | dardack | sorry needed to know what surrounded the random text |
| 14:02.31 | dardack | anyways glad it could work for ya afk for a bit |
| 14:02.59 | mikma | (datamining wowhead for my addon + modifying the json tables ftl) |
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| 14:09.56 | Adys | morning |
| 14:10.28 | Cruciformer | hola adys |
| 14:10.30 | Adys | anyone got opera to test http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/webkit-block.html ? |
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| 14:10.57 | nevcairiel | only opera today? :D |
| 14:11.16 | Adys | well actually ie8 if you got |
| 14:11.21 | nevcairiel | IE8 is all green |
| 14:11.25 | nevcairiel | IE7 is bugged |
| 14:14.21 | Stanzilla | all green in o10 |
| 14:14.21 | Adys | got a ss of ie7? |
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| 14:15.24 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 14:15.35 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e617dcc892166d0336b13ba697f97c84.png |
| 14:15.58 | Adys | Oo |
| 14:16.22 | nevcairiel | strictly speaking thats 8 in compat mode |
| 14:16.27 | nevcairiel | but that should be 7 rendering :D |
| 14:16.52 | mikma | adys: scheisse lederhosen |
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| 14:22.13 | kaiden | Can someone take a look at http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Jasti_01.jpg and help me remember what addon i had at the time that colored my stats like that in my tooltips. |
| 14:22.32 | kaiden | i can't for the life of me remember which it was:) |
| 14:22.49 | nevcairiel | i've never seen that, hehe |
| 14:23.07 | kaiden | i was just looking through my screenshots and went oooooh that was sexy :) |
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| 14:24.52 | kaiden | i wonder if it was an option in ratingbuster, that's the only thing i can think of |
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| 14:28.53 | spode | kaiden StatStain maybe? (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6997-StatStain.html) |
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| 14:32.41 | Shirik|zZz | Adys: Chrome has red too |
| 14:32.43 | Shirik|zZz | just fyi |
| 14:32.54 | Kraps | i had a dream i was running around burning steppes/searing gorge looking for a toilet |
| 14:33.07 | Shirik | are you sure there should be no red? |
| 14:33.16 | alestane | There's an outhouse over by the grimesilt dig site, but it's locked. |
| 14:33.40 | Adys | yes Shirik |
| 14:33.43 | Adys | the page is overflowing |
| 14:33.50 | Lukian | well yeah, it's in use :> |
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| 14:34.24 | Shirik | Well Adys, I can scroll left and right |
| 14:34.30 | Adys | yep |
| 14:34.32 | Shirik | and wierd thing is, when I scroll right it's all green |
| 14:34.38 | Adys | thats normal |
| 14:34.50 | Adys | to the right is a text input object of 50px high |
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| 14:35.26 | Adys | the div above it inherits the size of the input (100%) which isnt normal at all |
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| 14:35.58 | Shirik | huh? |
| 14:36.01 | Adys | if it inherits the size it should be right under the input not next to it |
| 14:36.15 | Shirik | all divs explicitly state 100% to me |
| 14:36.24 | Adys | sec |
| 14:36.31 | Adys | http://crbug.com/3486 |
| 14:36.42 | Adys | last attachment |
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| 14:55.19 | Industrial | Increases your meelee chance to hit a target of level 80 by 15.65% |
| 14:55.21 | Industrial | ^______^ |
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| 14:57.29 | Adys | what's the maximum amount of attachments you can have with a mail? |
| 14:58.19 | |Jelly| | nevcairiel: ping |
| 14:58.36 | foxlit | Why would there be a maximum? |
| 14:59.56 | Adys | ingame mail |
| 15:00.04 | foxlit | Ah. |
| 15:00.05 | foxlit | 16. |
| 15:00.17 | Adys | thats not counting gold right? |
| 15:00.33 | foxlit | Gold doesn't use a sending slot, at least. |
| 15:00.41 | Adys | ok thanks |
| 15:00.55 | foxlit | Mail some junk to an alt, find out :) |
| 15:01.02 | Adys | cant login again |
| 15:02.53 | foxlit | Actually, max 12 items. |
| 15:04.12 | Adys | hmm ok |
| 15:06.11 | cog|away | meow |
| 15:11.40 | foxlit | "This file conforms to Blizzard's EULA, ToU and UI Add-On Development Policy." |
| 15:12.02 | foxlit | Redundant, considering "7) Add-ons must abide by World of Warcraft ToU and EULA." :) |
| 15:12.09 | foxlit | Though the links are useful. |
| 15:13.20 | p3lim | Did they change something to the UIErrorsFrame in 3.2 or am i going nuts? |
| 15:13.32 | p3lim | I though I saw a slashcommand that let you disable it |
| 15:13.36 | alestane | They added a history and debug information. |
| 15:14.03 | p3lim | UIErrorsFrame is the red text that spams info like 'Not enough rage' |
| 15:14.17 | alestane | Run a diff? |
| 15:14.26 | foxlit | "Not enough rage. You must construct additional pylons" |
| 15:14.41 | alestane | *snarf!* |
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| 15:16.21 | p3lim | ive checked diffs, but I see nothing |
| 15:16.32 | p3lim | its odd, since I saw something during the ptr patches |
| 15:18.41 | Fisker | It's official |
| 15:18.48 | Fisker | Denmark is the best nation in the world |
| 15:18.52 | p3lim | lol |
| 15:18.53 | p3lim | lies |
| 15:19.06 | Fisker | Penn & Teller says it is :)( |
| 15:19.07 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:19.41 | Aquavette2k1 | wtb starcraft 2 beta |
| 15:19.57 | p3lim | another question, whats with the 6-15 new mousebuttons globals |
| 15:21.07 | alestane | Support for mice with more buttons? |
| 15:21.40 | Xinhuan | i assumed it was support for joysticks lol |
| 15:22.06 | Aqua | They already have support for joysticks, more men play this game then women.. |
| 15:22.27 | alestane | Not by as much as you might think though. |
| 15:22.33 | Aqua | oh i know |
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| 15:24.13 | p3lim | my wow mouse has 15 buttons |
| 15:24.25 | p3lim | but I cant use them unless they are binded through the software |
| 15:24.42 | Aqua | wait windows don't have a driver for the mouse? |
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| 15:25.05 | p3lim | well, its steelseries' software |
| 15:25.24 | p3lim | it works like macros |
| 15:25.45 | Aqua | ah |
| 15:25.46 | p3lim | right now i have bound all my keys to numpad keys |
| 15:25.52 | p3lim | so i can use them like normal ingame |
| 15:25.56 | p3lim | without macro mess |
| 15:26.04 | p3lim | though id like the buttons to have own id's |
| 15:26.20 | foxlit | "Upper lower thumb button 17" |
| 15:26.22 | p3lim | after seeing the change in UIParent.lua i though they would make it work, but it seems it dont |
| 15:28.24 | Aqua | anyone remeber the function for figuring out how many attempts it takes to loot an item? |
| 15:28.31 | Aqua | like for example, deathchargers reigns? |
| 15:28.56 | p3lim | for an item to drop? |
| 15:28.59 | Aqua | yea |
| 15:29.03 | p3lim | post-it notes and a marked works perfectly |
| 15:29.22 | foxlit | What is it exactly that you want? |
| 15:29.35 | alestane | Random loot table is random. |
| 15:29.46 | p3lim | something to count how many kills of rivendale until mount drop |
| 15:29.53 | foxlit | p3lim: or predict? |
| 15:29.58 | Aqua | predict |
| 15:30.04 | p3lim | well, its random, cant be predicted |
| 15:30.11 | Aqua | like, you have the probabilty, .01 that it will drop, |
| 15:30.12 | p3lim | can take 1 try or 10000 |
| 15:30.17 | alestane | But if you take the reciprocal of the drop rates listed in places like Allkhazam or Thottbot, that gives you a notion of what to expect. |
| 15:30.27 | foxlit | Yet people know their odds of winning a lottery |
| 15:30.31 | p3lim | they did change the droprate so.. |
| 15:30.49 | Aqua | last time i checked its a 1% drop rate now |
| 15:30.55 | p3lim | well, its 1 to <insert number of other people also trying to win the lottery> |
| 15:30.59 | foxlit | P(drops in n attempts) = 1-(1-P(drops in 1 attempt))^n |
| 15:31.16 | Aqua | foxlit has what i'm looking for |
| 15:31.17 | foxlit | s/ in / at least once in / |
| 15:31.38 | p3lim | its still random |
| 15:31.43 | Aqua | yea, but its an idea |
| 15:31.43 | p3lim | so its not guaranteed |
| 15:32.19 | MentalPower | p3lim: actually no, its a static probability, its not based on the number of people playing |
| 15:32.47 | nevcairiel | maybe they have a weird lottery in his part of the world |
| 15:32.57 | nicoli_s | http://www.imeem.com/artists/captain_beefheart/music/HYT0cwah/captain-beefheart-making-love-to-a-vampire-with-a-monkey-on/ <- best song ever |
| 15:33.11 | p3lim | well, 1 in <possible combinations of numbers on the lottery cupon> / <people having same numbers> |
| 15:33.23 | Lukian | MentalPower, how do you know that *for sure*? |
| 15:33.41 | p3lim | hes right |
| 15:33.47 | p3lim | its not you vs all others |
| 15:33.54 | p3lim | its the numbers on your cupon |
| 15:34.11 | p3lim | and the possibility its the right one |
| 15:34.30 | foxlit | [I really shouldn't have used the word lottery -- there's a billion and one rulesets] |
| 15:34.32 | MentalPower | right, also note I'm not considering multiple winners for the same drawing |
| 15:34.48 | p3lim | yeah ofcourse |
| 15:34.58 | p3lim | atleast thats how the lottery works here in norway |
| 15:36.18 | foxlit | wowi wins the approval race again. |
| 15:36.57 | p3lim | hm? |
| 15:37.11 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:37.29 | Aqua | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12891425417&sid=1 |
| 15:37.32 | Aqua | how accurate is that post |
| 15:37.42 | p3lim | disabled my mouse right now so cant click it :p |
| 15:38.06 | foxlit | "You can now start hacking on it to your heart's content." << Curse's approval email is humorous, however. |
| 15:38.40 | foxlit | Aqua: it's fine. |
| 15:38.54 | Aqua | thats what i was talking about |
| 15:39.33 | foxlit | The "you're allowed to complain threshold" is a matter of opinion, but there's nothing wrong with the math. |
| 15:39.46 | Aqua | yea, i was talking about the math |
| 15:39.52 | Aqua | not the opinion |
| 15:39.59 | Aqua | opinion's are like ass holes everyone has one |
| 15:40.51 | Kraps | an unholy dk that was in my group uses oblit instead of ss, i asked and he said that it come out to more dps after testing it. y/n |
| 15:40.51 | alestane | And most of them stink. |
| 15:41.10 | Aqua | ^ damn right |
| 15:41.21 | alestane | Depends on glyphs, I suspect. |
| 15:42.14 | foxlit | Hrm, caching. |
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| 15:44.53 | Ackis | where's peppy? |
| 15:45.01 | alestane | On vacation. |
| 15:45.15 | alestane | Probably back Monday or Sunday night. |
| 15:45.26 | Ackis | ah ok ty |
| 15:47.40 | mikma | ahhahaha, "Epicwarrior", death knight |
| 15:49.00 | Ackis | blizz needs to give people a test bed for addons so I don't have to install all of wow/can't play the game/don't have to pay a sub |
| 15:49.15 | Aqua | ^ agreed |
| 15:49.33 | Aqua | or atleast someone puts out a decent IDE |
| 15:50.34 | foxlit | What's wrong with notepad? :) |
| 15:50.46 | Aqua | nothing, I just hate running wow to work on an addon |
| 15:50.53 | foxlit | (Or, for that matter, with butterflies) |
| 15:51.01 | foxlit | I don't see why you'd have to. |
| 15:51.21 | Aqua | I write my code, and test my functions |
| 15:51.29 | Aqua | I dont' write the whole thign and then bo back and debug |
| 15:51.47 | foxlit | Testing is clearly redundant. Get it right the first time, or not at all :) |
| 15:52.09 | Ackis | meh |
| 15:52.12 | Ackis | just dry-code |
| 15:52.42 | Aqua | I used to pencil and paper it |
| 15:52.54 | Aqua | hated it... |
| 15:52.57 | Adys | http://derrenbrownart.com/blog/2009/08/friday-fun-data-weigh/ |
| 15:52.58 | Aqua | but we had to for school |
| 15:52.59 | Adys | sigh |
| 15:53.24 | Aqua | rofl |
| 15:53.26 | Aqua | that artigle |
| 15:53.31 | Ackis | I hated writing code felt so weird |
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| 15:55.09 | foxlit | Thing is, you should not be writing *code* with a pencil. |
| 15:55.55 | Aqua | we used to take tests and they were pencil and paper |
| 15:56.08 | Aqua | couldn't touch a PC for them |
| 15:56.09 | nevcairiel | same here, it was so damn annoying |
| 15:56.09 | foxlit | But you can still write out algorithms on paper. |
| 15:56.18 | Aqua | we had to write entire programs |
| 15:56.19 | foxlit | And that's a worthwhile skill |
| 15:56.36 | Aqua | like, they wanted them to compile if you put them in a compiler |
| 15:56.48 | foxlit | Meh, blame the professors. |
| 15:56.52 | Aqua | I did... |
| 15:56.56 | nevcairiel | I did, too |
| 15:56.58 | nevcairiel | didnt help |
| 15:56.58 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:56.59 | mikma | bad proffy |
| 15:57.07 | foxlit | Around here, any code you end up writing with a pencil has a standard "may not compile" disclaimer. |
| 15:57.25 | Aqua | I pseduo code |
| 15:57.27 | nicoli_s | i used to hate having to write out code on paper |
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| 15:57.39 | Aqua | on paper occasionally |
| 15:57.43 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/08/google-translate-equilibrium.html |
| 15:57.46 | Aqua | but yea, see everyone has done it one time or another. |
| 15:57.49 | nevcairiel | I wrote pseudo code in that one SAP/ABAP exam because i lost half the syntax somehow |
| 15:57.55 | nevcairiel | and i got a really good grade for it =P |
| 15:58.45 | Adys | I will lie and SAP / ABAP code half loss - syntax test management |
| 15:58.54 | Adys | hm. |
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| 16:00.25 | Adys | oookay that website is my new favourite thing |
| 16:03.33 | jaxdahl | hrm |
| 16:03.37 | jaxdahl | http://translationparty.com/tp/#328404 how did this happen |
| 16:04.02 | Adys | Oo |
| 16:04.18 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#328460 |
| 16:04.20 | Aqua | gotta love this, I put something on the AH and before i left the auctioneer it was sold |
| 16:06.27 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#328914 |
| 16:06.30 | Adys | oh.. wow. |
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| 16:09.30 | jaxdahl | http://translationparty.com/tp/#329440 |
| 16:09.54 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#329531 |
| 16:10.04 | Adys | Blizzard explains patch-related delays |
| 16:10.35 | Ackis | gf is pissed at me... was browsing free offers a few weeks ago and found free tampons so I signed her up lol |
| 16:10.51 | Aqua | hahahaha |
| 16:11.02 | jaxdahl | wow that one is good |
| 16:11.13 | jaxdahl | Our results, Sorry for not posting earlier confusion. We are two months in 2007, three days of life, the fix for the week. |
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| 16:11.56 | jaxdahl | http://translationparty.com/tp/#330044 |
| 16:12.33 | jaxdahl | last one http://translationparty.com/tp/#330187 |
| 16:12.54 | Adys | this sounds like a slashdot rating |
| 16:13.17 | nicoli_s | thats an awesome site |
| 16:13.34 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#330404 |
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| 16:14.24 | jaxdahl | ok i can't stop - i'm going through the AFI top 100 quotes, here's the first one http://translationparty.com/tp/#330556 |
| 16:15.23 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#330797 |
| 16:15.24 | Adys | how |
| 16:16.18 | nicoli_s | http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32314995/ns/today-parenting_and_family/?gt1=43001 <- that is awesome |
| 16:17.18 | jaxdahl | adys, for some reason, adding a period to the end of stuff changes a lot of things |
| 16:17.34 | jaxdahl | adding a period => I had to pay a lot of power. |
| 16:18.38 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#331480 |
| 16:19.30 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#331650 |
| 16:19.32 | Adys | rofl, wow |
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| 16:20.01 | wsoul | adys is dw tank for dks is okie? |
| 16:20.08 | wsoul | i got this nice one handed sword |
| 16:20.12 | wsoul | from trial |
| 16:20.22 | wsoul | peacekeeper blade |
| 16:20.42 | Adys | wsoul: http://translationparty.com/tp/#331905 |
| 16:20.52 | wsoul | danke |
| 16:21.08 | wsoul | bleh |
| 16:21.21 | Adys | i dont know anything about DKs why do you ask me :P |
| 16:21.26 | wsoul | hehe |
| 16:21.32 | wsoul | Wobin isn't here |
| 16:21.42 | wsoul | the only dk tank that i know of |
| 16:23.46 | nicoli_s | that site is bringing much joy to our office |
| 16:23.53 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#332405 |
| 16:23.58 | Fisker | QQ |
| 16:23.58 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#332217 |
| 16:24.01 | Fisker | chrome won't start |
| 16:24.03 | Fisker | cries |
| 16:24.16 | Adys | bahah |
| 16:24.22 | Industrial | bawww |
| 16:24.30 | Industrial | im bored |
| 16:24.33 | Industrial | Fisker: do a dance |
| 16:24.37 | Adys | click those links |
| 16:24.38 | Nuckin | anyone speak russian? some kid just left some russian in my WoWI comments section |
| 16:24.53 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#332968 - FIGHT |
| 16:25.16 | Adys | ROFL |
| 16:25.23 | Fisker | Niet Nuckin |
| 16:25.44 | Adys | oh my god Cide |
| 16:25.51 | Adys | i havent laughed so hard in years |
| 16:26.12 | Industrial | I dont get it :S |
| 16:26.21 | Nuckin | ÐÐ°Ð»Ñ ÑÑ ÑÑÑÑкий не понимаеÑÑ. |
| 16:26.40 | Industrial | I can has utf8? |
| 16:26.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Spellshaper (n=Spellsha@dslb-084-056-241-232.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:26.57 | Nuckin | i think thats russian anyways |
| 16:27.16 | foxlit | "It's a pity you don't understand russian" |
| 16:27.25 | wsoul | j |
| 16:27.29 | wsoul | err |
| 16:27.36 | Nuckin | seriously? lol |
| 16:27.40 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#333845 - someone's passive agressive. |
| 16:28.13 | foxlit | qq, those links do not work :( |
| 16:28.33 | Industrial | http://translationparty.com/tp/#334426 |
| 16:28.33 | Fisker | nice |
| 16:28.36 | Industrial | really, I don't get it |
| 16:28.41 | Industrial | what is this |
| 16:29.08 | Adys | its a website that translate english => japanese => english until a text doesnt change anymore |
| 16:29.13 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#334746 |
| 16:29.24 | Cide | You need to start a complete failure of industrial |
| 16:29.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Movix (n=Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 16:30.24 | foxlit | of the industry |
| 16:30.26 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#335297 |
| 16:30.27 | Adys | cide |
| 16:30.48 | Cide | Please refer to kickbacks to kill a complete failure |
| 16:30.49 | Cide | rofl |
| 16:31.14 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#335703 what the hell is wrong with this website |
| 16:31.16 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/tp/#335817 :( |
| 16:31.22 | mikma | http://translationparty.com/tp/#335848 <- i is winner? |
| 16:31.34 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#335917 |
| 16:31.42 | Nuckin | you guys are having so much fun hahaha |
| 16:31.44 | Industrial | mikma: a winrar is you |
| 16:32.41 | Adys | mikma: http://translationparty.com/tp/#336381 |
| 16:32.56 | Adys | one for everyone \o/ |
| 16:33.10 | Industrial | http://www.questionparty.com/ |
| 16:33.13 | Industrial | see you in 2 weeks |
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| 16:33.21 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 16:33.23 | Industrial | do i win now? |
| 16:33.24 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:34.08 | mikma | adys: http://translationparty.com/tp/#337380 |
| 16:34.48 | Adys | mikma: http://translationparty.com/tp/#337757 |
| 16:34.53 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#337695 |
| 16:34.54 | Cide | rofl |
| 16:35.01 | Ackis | lol http://poststuff5.entensity.net/080709/image.php?pic=kitten.gif (site might have ads that are NSFW, the image is cute though) |
| 16:35.03 | Cide | "I have to fire people who want to help." |
| 16:35.03 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 16:35.35 | Adys | Cide: best is the bottom comment |
| 16:35.41 | Adys | Equilibrium found! |
| 16:35.41 | Adys | Translation Party is hiring, you know. |
| 16:36.04 | Adys | Ackis: how about linking the gif itself :P |
| 16:36.06 | Industrial | Adys: thar u go http://images.gammatester.com/pics/135e5fa0b478ecaca27145b388d6813b.gif |
| 16:36.15 | Industrial | Ackis even |
| 16:36.16 | Cide | I have people who wish to support people to the fire. |
| 16:36.21 | mikma | adys: this is odd one: http://translationparty.com/tp/#338550 |
| 16:37.10 | Cide | mikma: sup? Mikma, I award you one internet |
| 16:37.14 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#339033 |
| 16:37.29 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#339129 |
| 16:37.33 | Cide | DENIED |
| 16:37.44 | mikma | industrial: plop. |
| 16:37.49 | Ackis | Adys: QQ :P |
| 16:38.03 | mikma | cide: gz on the single internet |
| 16:38.07 | Industrial | mikma: blub |
| 16:38.22 | mikma | industrial: (the cat) |
| 16:38.29 | Industrial | mikma: kork |
| 16:38.30 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#339736 |
| 16:38.36 | Adys | mikma: you ecological monster |
| 16:38.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:38.53 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/tp/#339489 <-aw :( |
| 16:39.43 | mikma | cide: http://translationparty.com/tp/#340309 |
| 16:39.56 | mikma | dunno did i type that correctly or not |
| 16:40.18 | nicoli_s | gj on the infinite loop mikma |
| 16:40.33 | Cide | rofl |
| 16:40.34 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#340898 |
| 16:40.36 | mikma | cide did it first |
| 16:40.41 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#340898 |
| 16:41.18 | mikma | cide: that first one is full of win |
| 16:41.24 | Cide | which? |
| 16:41.30 | mikma | please please please please please |
| 16:41.34 | Adys | mikma: this is the same link you know |
| 16:41.41 | Cide | I linked it thrice for epicness |
| 16:41.42 | mikma | noes |
| 16:42.17 | Lunessa | Triple epixx |
| 16:42.24 | nicoli_s | man this shit is hilarious |
| 16:42.49 | mikma | nicoli_s: http://translationparty.com/tp/#342208 |
| 16:42.53 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#342231 |
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| 16:43.11 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 16:43.14 | Fisker | i told you to rage with me |
| 16:43.28 | nicoli_s | i am? |
| 16:43.45 | Fisker | i see no rage |
| 16:44.25 | Cide | Adys: http://translationparty.com/tp/#343014 wtf? |
| 16:44.44 | Adys | woah |
| 16:45.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:45.16 | mikma | http://translationparty.com/tp/#343577 |
| 16:45.17 | mikma | what the.... |
| 16:45.54 | nicoli_s | i love that one: Per day Monday Adys 1 boasts the only one having a ball. |
| 16:45.56 | Fisker | FISKUSAUNA! |
| 16:46.22 | mikma | FISUKASAUNA |
| 16:46.32 | Cide | Adys: http://translationparty.com/tp/#344369 |
| 16:46.45 | Fisker | oh mikma :( |
| 16:48.04 | mikma | http://translationparty.com/tp/#345297 |
| 16:48.10 | mikma | that's last one from me |
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| 16:48.14 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol] by ChanServ |
| 16:48.20 | Fisker | http://translationparty.com/tp/#345376 <-lol |
| 16:48.21 | Lunessa | http://translationparty.com/tp/#345461 |
| 16:48.49 | Fisker | rofl Lunessa |
| 16:49.03 | *** join/#wowuidev bluspacecow (n=bluspace@60-234-165-167.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 16:49.06 | mikma | in fact |
| 16:49.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen1 (n=Sixen@173-25-22-158.client.mchsi.com) |
| 16:49.16 | bluspacecow | sixen |
| 16:49.18 | bluspacecow | hold me |
| 16:49.25 | bluspacecow | yet another wowmatrix thread :( |
| 16:49.26 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110063830&postId=191082238786&sid=1#6 |
| 16:49.28 | mikma | ok i lied |
| 16:49.29 | mikma | http://translationparty.com/tp/#346170 |
| 16:49.44 | Nuckin | how is wowmatrix still effin alive? |
| 16:49.45 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#346375 |
| 16:49.46 | nevcairiel | thats awesome |
| 16:49.47 | Cide | deserves to be relinked |
| 16:50.01 | bluspacecow | idk Nuckin |
| 16:50.01 | Lunessa | wraps bluspacecow in concrete and drops him into the ocean where no one will ever mention WoWMatirx again. |
| 16:50.10 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 16:50.15 | bluspacecow | "glug glug glug" |
| 16:50.22 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#346823 |
| 16:50.26 | Nuckin | hahaha |
| 16:50.59 | Fisker | massive win Cide |
| 16:51.45 | nicoli_s | http://translationparty.com/tp/#347537 |
| 16:51.55 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#347663 |
| 16:52.16 | Lunessa | http://translationparty.com/tp/#347774 |
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| 16:52.43 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 16:52.59 | bluspacecow | hai mental |
| 16:53.05 | bluspacecow | i should be sleeping right now |
| 16:53.24 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#348561 |
| 16:53.27 | Adys | "oh, right" |
| 16:54.17 | bluspacecow | did they patch glue screen patching of the login screen for this patch ? |
| 16:54.36 | mikma | you mean the E-Dragon? |
| 16:54.39 | zenzelezz | still no peppy :-| |
| 16:54.42 | bluspacecow | yeah fluffy |
| 16:54.57 | mikma | dunno, it doesn't work on me anymore :P |
| 16:55.05 | alestane | No, no Peppy. She is outside doing non-virtual things all week. |
| 16:55.23 | nicoli_s | man this site is great |
| 16:55.23 | alestane | I think she said she expected to be back on the tenth. |
| 16:55.36 | zenzelezz | Monday? :( |
| 16:55.36 | bluspacecow | gahhhh people who bump year old threads should be shot |
| 16:55.44 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: She's being creatively anachronistic. |
| 16:55.45 | bluspacecow | *stabity* *stab* *stab* |
| 16:56.06 | Lunessa | bluspacecow: You can no longer override the login screen. |
| 16:56.07 | Fisker | tsk bluspacecow |
| 16:56.08 | Fisker | cheater |
| 16:56.27 | Shirik | wtf is this translation party? |
| 16:56.34 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: well she should have done that in the four weeks I was away, not the week after I got back >.< |
| 16:56.35 | Fisker | it's a party |
| 16:56.36 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 16:56.38 | Fisker | you're invited |
| 16:56.42 | bluspacecow | and its a drinking game too |
| 16:56.48 | bluspacecow | i've already taken 3 shots |
| 16:57.10 | nicoli_s | shirik, it translates back and forth from enligh to japanese until it doesnt change |
| 16:57.15 | nicoli_s | and then hilarity ensues |
| 16:57.18 | Mikk | I FINALLY UNDERSTAND!!! THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! THEY HURT!!! |
| 16:57.25 | Mikk | http://translationparty.com/tp/#350179 "Please find the tab marked A, pull it out to expose the battery compartment" |
| 16:57.35 | Mikk | "In the following, the public is to remove the batteries, please select the tab" |
| 16:57.50 | Mikk | "Also, if you are following, you must remove the battery and select the tab." |
| 16:57.57 | Mikk | "In addition, the following cases, you must remove the battery, select the tab." |
| 16:58.10 | Mikk | It finally makes sense! |
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| 16:58.26 | nicoli_s | thats a long one mikk |
| 16:58.38 | nicoli_s | aww its infinite |
| 16:58.40 | Shirik | you guys are strange |
| 16:58.55 | Mikk | Have YOU tried following asian instructions for electrical things? =P |
| 16:59.01 | nicoli_s | come on just try it out, its hilarious shirik |
| 16:59.11 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=80370366&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 16:59.14 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#351916 |
| 16:59.18 | bluspacecow | "But as Farwind says you have to drag all ur folders one by one and RESTART UR COMPUTER WITH THE DISC IN." |
| 16:59.20 | bluspacecow | wot ? |
| 16:59.30 | bluspacecow | wtf does that have to do with installing Auctioneer |
| 16:59.33 | bluspacecow | ::roll:: |
| 17:00.35 | Mikk | "come on just try it out, its hilarious shirik" -> "Just try it, come and cheerful that shirik" -> "Just come and try a healthy shirik" |
| 17:00.56 | bluspacecow | i'ld like to try a healthy shirik |
| 17:00.58 | Adys | my head hurts |
| 17:01.23 | Fisker | all folders bluspacecow |
| 17:01.26 | Mikk | with more proper commas: "come on, just try it out, its hilarious, shirik" -> "Out, funny shirik" |
| 17:01.28 | Mikk | grins |
| 17:01.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:02.01 | bluspacecow | no fisker the "RESTART UR COMPUTER WITH THE DISC IN." <---------------- that's just silly placebo voodoo Bullshit right there |
| 17:02.47 | *** join/#wowuidev cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 17:03.19 | Fisker | but i couldn't make that sound cool bluspacecow |
| 17:03.25 | Fisker | so you're stuck with "all folders bluspacecow" |
| 17:03.43 | bluspacecow | i'm vaguely excited over that |
| 17:05.01 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#355124 |
| 17:10.27 | Cide | Shirik: http://translationparty.com/tp/#358006 |
| 17:11.25 | Shirik | .. |
| 17:11.31 | Shirik | not even sure what to say to that |
| 17:11.49 | Cide | yes, yes you do |
| 17:11.50 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#358693 |
| 17:11.53 | *** join/#wowuidev durcyn_ (n=durcyn@70.114.135.190) |
| 17:11.55 | bluspacecow | Shirik, Seoul Dam! |
| 17:12.41 | Cruciformer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.43 | Shirik | look what you did bluspacecow |
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| 17:12.57 | Adys | Cide: http://translationparty.com/tp/#356973 deserves relinkt oo |
| 17:12.57 | bluspacecow | what wot ? |
| 17:13.02 | bluspacecow | i didn't cause the netsplit :( |
| 17:13.03 | Cide | yes |
| 17:13.05 | Adys | Cruciformer: thats not gonna work |
| 17:13.09 | nicoli_s | that one is awesome adys |
| 17:13.37 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#359281 |
| 17:13.37 | Cide | rofl |
| 17:13.37 | Cruciformer | adys: It would work just fine if I had a /autoignore :P |
| 17:13.37 | Cide | many of the sentences even make gramatically sense |
| 17:13.45 | Adys | Cruciformer: read your regex |
| 17:13.49 | Cide | People do not have a hand in everything around me, if the feed has been a sharp |
| 17:14.18 | Cruciformer | anything with the te4xt "translationparity" in it ... work just fine |
| 17:14.28 | Adys | yeah |
| 17:14.32 | Adys | and how's that gonna work? |
| 17:15.08 | theorbtwo | Translationparity probably would have been a better name, but it's not the name of that site. |
| 17:15.13 | Cruciformer | its hypothetical since I dont have a /autoignore command but if I did, and any line contained the word translationparity, it would ignore it |
| 17:16.10 | Cide | http://translationparty.com/tp/#360937 wtf. |
| 17:16.18 | Cide | @ Lunessa |
| 17:16.23 | jaxdahl | punctuation matters a lot |
| 17:16.33 | Cruciformer | Adys: "zero or more occurrences of any character, followed by the litteral characters translationparity followed by zero or more occurences of any charatcer, whats wrong with the regex? |
| 17:16.43 | jaxdahl | How can I bite the hand that feeds the strangers all around me? => You bite the hand is RSS? If you are in, RSS feeds, RSS feeds and get the feed or RSS feeds, or, what to feed, RSS feed. |
| 17:16.46 | Cide | Cruciformer: it's translationparty, not parity |
| 17:16.47 | Adys | giving you one hour to find out, Cruciformer |
| 17:16.53 | Lunessa | Cide: I think it's tell you that you're gay. |
| 17:16.54 | Adys | you ruined it cide |
| 17:17.07 | Cide | Lunessa: I believe so |
| 17:17.08 | Cruciformer | meh u knew what I meant :P |
| 17:17.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 17:17.17 | Cide | I have been mistaken for human |
| 17:17.21 | Lunessa | And gay. |
| 17:17.22 | Cide | clearly I pass the turing test |
| 17:17.48 | Lunessa | So you're slick code masquerading as a gay man on the interwebs? HAWT. |
| 17:17.53 | Cide | yes. |
| 17:18.33 | durcyn | but did you pass the gom jabbar |
| 17:18.35 | Cide | ( http://open.spotify.com/track/1gMGSlMZaXu0N1pjCMoVQr ) |
| 17:18.41 | Cruciformer | or is he a slick gay man masquerading as code on the interwebs? Ask yourself that. |
| 17:19.03 | A-KO | got a question: I'm writing a simple addon that auto vendors gray items, etc. The question is--do you think it's worth it to register for a loot event to see if the player looted a gray item before it tries to loop through their bags every time they open a vendor? |
| 17:20.45 | A-KO | hmmm I could see it bugging out if I do that though :/ game crashes between looting an item and seeing the vendor and it doesn't get set.... |
| 17:21.59 | Cide | no, it's not worth it |
| 17:22.56 | Cide | searching the bags is trivial |
| 17:23.04 | Cide | you're trying to micro-optimize |
| 17:23.20 | Cide | which would just have a negative effect on performance since you're keeping all that stuff in memory for the rest of the session |
| 17:23.21 | Cruciformer | are you sure you arent reinventing the wheel? I sem to recall several mods that auto-vendor stuff |
| 17:24.06 | Cruciformer | not that I want to discourage you from writing mods but Im pretty sure that particular function has been coded several times. |
| 17:25.11 | Cloudwolf | hmmm..... what does invalid key to next mean? |
| 17:25.30 | Cide | lua> next({}, 2) |
| 17:25.30 | lua_bot | Cide: invalid key to 'next' |
| 17:25.48 | Cloudwolf | hmm i dont have next in my code anywhere... |
| 17:25.52 | Cide | you're passing a key that doesn't exist |
| 17:25.58 | Cide | are you modifying a loop inside the loop? |
| 17:25.59 | Cloudwolf | lua> next(1,2) |
| 17:25.59 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got number) |
| 17:26.05 | Cide | er |
| 17:26.14 | Cide | modying a table inside a loop over that table |
| 17:26.16 | Cloudwolf | api> next |
| 17:26.26 | Cloudwolf | yes |
| 17:26.27 | Cloudwolf | i am cide |
| 17:26.38 | Cide | you're deleting the key you're trying to retrieve the successor of |
| 17:27.09 | Cloudwolf | for k,v in pairs(wordbank) do wordbank[k]=nil wordbank[v]=true end |
| 17:27.17 | Cide | iterate over the table in reverse or store the previous key |
| 17:27.19 | Cide | or do |
| 17:27.40 | bluspacecow | Cloud is cide ? |
| 17:27.45 | bluspacecow | *rubs eyes* |
| 17:27.51 | Cloudwolf | O.o? cloud is not cide |
| 17:28.09 | Cide | lua> local wordbank = { 1, 2, 3, ["abc"] = true }; while true do local n = next(t); if not n then break; end wordbank[n] = nil; end; pp(wordbank) |
| 17:28.09 | lua_bot | Cide: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil) |
| 17:28.17 | Cide | lua> local wordbank = { 1, 2, 3, ["abc"] = true }; while true do local n = next(wordbank); if not n then break; end wordbank[n] = nil; end; pp(wordbank) |
| 17:28.18 | lua_bot | Cide: { } (#1) |
| 17:28.25 | Cide | ^ option #2 |
| 17:28.27 | Cide | s/2/3 |
| 17:28.29 | Cide | s/2/3/ |
| 17:28.31 | Cide | fail |
| 17:28.34 | Cide | ^ option #3 |
| 17:28.53 | Lunessa | Cide is. From Cide does all sarcasm flow. He binds the universe together. He maketh the lion lay down with the lamb. He slaughtereth the n00bs. Blessed is the name Cide, for he shall lead your code into the promised land. |
| 17:29.14 | Cide | ^ |
| 17:30.36 | Nuckin | more russian on my comments section! |
| 17:30.37 | Nuckin | Ðа поÑел ÑÑ Ð¿Ð¸Ð´Ð°ÑаÑ, помоÑÑ Ñже влом. |
| 17:31.25 | foxlit | Nuckin: somebody likes you? |
| 17:31.49 | Nuckin | foxlit: apparently, I think I'm being woed by a soviet |
| 17:32.18 | Cruciformer | is there even such a thing as a soviet any more? |
| 17:32.23 | Nechckn_AFK | Maybe you won the Russian lottery!! |
| 17:32.31 | foxlit | "the function of this macro is already built into the game." |
| 17:33.06 | foxlit | qq. People have no perception for subtleties :( |
| 17:33.31 | Nuckin | i don't understand this kid |
| 17:33.53 | Nuckin | he's qqing because i released my cast bar as a seperate project instead of packaging it in with everything else |
| 17:35.03 | Cide | yes, I feel sorry for you |
| 17:36.14 | A-KO | blizzard certainly doesn't make the pets/mounts for the tournament easy to get. |
| 17:36.26 | Cide | agreed |
| 17:37.10 | A-KO | it's something like a good 4-5 months :P |
| 17:37.14 | A-KO | to get 'em all.... |
| 17:37.19 | A-KO | and that's doing dailies every day |
| 17:37.25 | Cide | with the advent of gamecodes you, me and every other 14 year old in the world can play wow and thus expect everything on a silver platter |
| 17:37.30 | A-KO | lol |
| 17:37.31 | Cide | it's our right to get everything for free |
| 17:37.39 | Cide | WAKE UP AND FACE REALITY BLIZZARD |
| 17:38.15 | A-KO | you know the worst part is that they completely aren't understanding that losing their core players is far more damaging to the game than losing the casuals |
| 17:38.26 | Cide | I know |
| 17:38.29 | Cide | I mean |
| 17:38.58 | A-KO | look at the backlash over SC2 no lan play. Do they honestly think other people are going to get it or even stay in the game? The only reason SC was so popular was because of the lan play. |
| 17:39.08 | A-KO | never, ever alienate your core audience :P it's not a good thing |
| 17:39.14 | Cide | hold on |
| 17:39.16 | Cide | phone call |
| 17:39.27 | Cide | I can't give you a proper reply just yet |
| 17:39.42 | theorbtwo | OTOH, going back to WoW, the guy who plays 10 hours a week is putting 1/7th of the load on them as the guy who plays 10 hours a day. |
| 17:39.47 | theorbtwo | ...for the same amount of money. |
| 17:40.00 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: um. no. By no means nor stretch of the imagination was it the 'only reason SC was so popular' |
| 17:40.07 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: SHH |
| 17:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: THEN GET OFF THE PHONE |
| 17:40.22 | Cide | relax |
| 17:40.24 | Cide | I got this one |
| 17:40.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:40.31 | theorbtwo | The casuals don't demand new content, because they haven't finished playing the existing stuff. They don't put load on the servers. They don't QQ every time the servers are down for five minutes... |
| 17:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You best hurry then before I botch it! |
| 17:40.41 | A-KO | true, but you also have to consider that network and server bandwidth are directly correlated to the amount of players they have period :P So technically speaking, it might be more cost effective ot just lose the players that are doing 10 hours/week. |
| 17:40.56 | A-KO | LOL they don't? |
| 17:41.06 | A-KO | the casuals are the ones that QQ when the servers are down the most :P |
| 17:41.24 | theorbtwo | Hm, could be wrong on that last. |
| 17:41.59 | theorbtwo | I'm fairly certian bandwidth won't go up from players who don't play, though. |
| 17:42.12 | theorbtwo | Storage will, a tiny tiny bit. |
| 17:42.37 | A-KO | I'm pretty sure WoW could survive and thrive with even 10% of its current playerbase. But how many servers are kept up just to let those players have a generally lag-free time? The players that play 10 hours/day are going to do that regardless. |
| 17:42.46 | Cide | stop |
| 17:42.48 | Cide | let me reply |
| 17:42.51 | A-KO | lol ok |
| 17:44.52 | Cide | ok |
| 17:45.22 | theorbtwo | Oh. You didn't mean reply to me? |
| 17:45.25 | Sixen | ohai |
| 17:46.37 | Ackis | alert: I'm looking for someone who was at the paris WWI last year and has the WoW Mini figure promo that was there |
| 17:47.01 | Industrial | world war one? |
| 17:47.05 | Industrial | :p |
| 17:47.08 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:51.39 | Fisker | what wow mini figure promo Ackis ? |
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| 17:52.21 | Ackis | Fisker: they had a WoW Mini's promo Gorebelly I think |
| 17:53.34 | Cide | okay |
| 17:53.36 | Cide | A-KO |
| 17:53.40 | Fisker | i didn't get one Ackis :( |
| 17:53.42 | kaiden | spode, that would be it |
| 17:54.07 | Ackis | really? it would've been an orc looking thing about 2 inches tall |
| 17:54.16 | Cide | you're arguing blizzard doesn't understand what's best for them with regards to keeping a playerbase |
| 17:54.55 | durcyn | server hardware is cheap, subscriptions are forever |
| 17:55.08 | Cide | you're arguing with the company whose mmo success has been unparallelled, previously unwitnessed and yet to even be accomplished by another party |
| 17:55.14 | Cide | you're one person |
| 17:56.08 | Cide | unless you have a massively successful mmo that I don't know about, your reasoning that "they don't know what they're doing" is really pretty hilarious |
| 17:56.08 | Fisker | well i weren't there anyways Ackis |
| 17:56.18 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:56.31 | Cide | you don't even know what wow's core audience is if you're claiming it's the hardcore 24/7 player; wow INVENTED softcore mmo's |
| 17:57.04 | Lunessa | mmmm... softcore. |
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| 17:57.17 | Cide | you're also arguing they don't know how to develop a real time strategy game |
| 17:57.28 | Ackis | Blizzard North > Blizzard |
| 17:57.29 | Lukian | flashes Lunessa |
| 17:57.33 | Ackis | (they gave you cool notepads) |
| 17:57.43 | Lunessa | Umm.... no sausage, please. |
| 17:57.50 | Cide | this is the company with like 4 out of 4 best-selling rts games, one of which is a national sport |
| 17:57.52 | bluspacecow | ummmm |
| 17:58.00 | bluspacecow | i needs some chmod voodoo |
| 17:58.03 | Lukian | it was a softcore flash, so you got to see my white chest XD |
| 17:58.10 | bluspacecow | i want to make somefile have the permission -rw------- |
| 17:58.13 | theorbtwo | National sport? |
| 17:58.16 | bluspacecow | chmod somefile ?? |
| 17:58.34 | durcyn | chmod a-rwx,u+rw |
| 17:58.42 | Mikk | chmod 0600 |
| 17:58.43 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 17:58.43 | durcyn | or chmod 0600 |
| 17:58.46 | durcyn | damn it mikk |
| 17:58.54 | Cide | you also haven't considered piracy |
| 17:59.04 | Mikk | yeah well i was busy trying to recall if it was "a" or "A" |
| 17:59.09 | Mikk | so you beat me on THAT :P |
| 17:59.19 | Cide | but perhaps thinking outside of the box that is your own room is too great a challenge |
| 17:59.26 | Fisker | What piracy Cide ? |
| 17:59.39 | Lunessa | Real Piracy - The Crimson Permanent Assurance! |
| 17:59.56 | durcyn | those somali pirates are some motherfuckers, man. |
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| 18:00.23 | Cide | perhaps the people they're gaining by forcing people to play on servers where their keys are validated (and buying the game) versus pirating it (and playing on lan) outweigh the people they're losing from lack of lan play |
| 18:00.39 | Mikk | I see no reason for lack of LAN play leading to less sales |
| 18:00.44 | Mikk | More likely MORE sales |
| 18:00.47 | Fisker | There will be lanplay Cide |
| 18:00.51 | Fisker | And guess who'll get it |
| 18:01.04 | Fisker | and who won't (unless by becoming a pirate) |
| 18:01.06 | Fisker | (yarr btw) |
| 18:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ yarr |
| 18:01.34 | Mikk | Maybe. But it'll take a long time before someone has a working fake server up. |
| 18:01.37 | theorbtwo | I think LAN play now is *far* less important then it was then. |
| 18:01.38 | Fisker | lawl |
| 18:01.49 | Mikk | So all the people buying it the first bunch of months will be .. yes.. buying |
| 18:01.55 | Fisker | lawled @ Mikk |
| 18:01.59 | theorbtwo | If you way to play with friends, in person, it's OK, because you probably all have connections to the internet. |
| 18:02.02 | Cide | A-KO: also, the backlash you're talking about -- is that the demonstration you and your friends had on your back yard? sorry, didn't hear about it |
| 18:02.19 | Fisker | Timeline: |
| 18:02.21 | Fisker | SC2beta |
| 18:02.23 | Fisker | 1 month after |
| 18:02.24 | Fisker | Lan play |
| 18:02.28 | Fisker | 5 months after |
| 18:02.29 | Fisker | release |
| 18:02.31 | Fisker | still lan play |
| 18:02.33 | Fisker | durr |
| 18:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Setting up a working battle.net emu server is going to be quite a bit harder than War3/WoW |
| 18:02.44 | durcyn | i need lan play for my novell netware thickwire network at home guys |
| 18:02.53 | Mikk | is the fishdane saying that there's already a server out? |
| 18:03.15 | Fisker | Is the Mikk saying that the SC2beta is already out? |
| 18:03.16 | durcyn | i just recrimped all of the BNC connectors and bought all new 10 megabit ISA network cards in preparation for the release |
| 18:03.26 | Mikk | Ah, so you're speculating |
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| 18:04.02 | Mikk | durcyn: and neither thickernet with vampire taps, nor ISA, prevent you from running IP on the network :P |
| 18:04.04 | Fisker | Am i speculating any more or less than you are Mikk ? |
| 18:04.10 | Fisker | Or is SC2 already out? |
| 18:04.14 | Fisker | Because i'm not sure it is |
| 18:04.21 | Fisker | I believe it's still in developement |
| 18:04.39 | durcyn | Mikk: perhaps i chose the wrong channel for that particular sarcastic rant =P |
| 18:04.45 | Mikk | quite :P |
| 18:05.04 | Mikk | though it'll be hell to find a router with BNC connectors these days |
| 18:05.07 | Fisker | bnc connectors are the devil |
| 18:05.39 | Mikk | nothing wrong with bnc connectors. it's chained networks that are teh debil |
| 18:05.50 | Fisker | they electrocute you :( |
| 18:05.54 | Mikk | it tickles! |
| 18:06.05 | Mikk | used to hang in a place with 90 volt ground differential |
| 18:06.21 | Mikk | *BZZZZT* |
| 18:06.35 | Ackis | chained networks ftl |
| 18:06.55 | theorbtwo | Meh. The internet is a bunch of chained networks. |
| 18:07.01 | Mikk | "Fuckers fragged me again! *stompstomp*" "DAMNIT WHO KILLED THE NET AGAIN?!" |
| 18:07.02 | theorbtwo | It's multiple levels of NAT that's the mindkiller. |
| 18:07.44 | Mikk | Only if you're trying to run FTP! |
| 18:07.58 | Mikk | Or, er, H.323 |
| 18:08.04 | theorbtwo | Nah. Is bad for other things to. Is just worst for FTP. |
| 18:08.06 | Mikk | Or, um, SIP |
| 18:08.24 | bluspacecow | how do i get how many users are logged into a IRC channel ? |
| 18:08.25 | Ackis | I recall stating that my coax network was better than ethernet because "I didn't have to buy a hub" lol |
| 18:08.43 | Lunessa | At least we're no longer having to install new networking protocols every time a new game comes out. |
| 18:08.45 | Fisker | FDDI Ackis |
| 18:09.01 | Ackis | ~dict FDDI |
| 18:09.04 | Ackis | ~FDDI |
| 18:09.04 | purl | fddi is, like, (Fiber Distributed Data Interface) This is a fiber optic interface that allows data to travel extreme distances (many miles/kilometers) without signal loss. It is far superior to copper wire for data integrity as well. FDDI is often used to connect Internet, LAN, or WAN backbones together due to these superior properties. |
| 18:09.40 | Fisker | no hubs needed! |
| 18:09.47 | Ackis | heh |
| 18:09.58 | Ackis | Fisker: this was before you were born probably :P |
| 18:10.15 | Fisker | wut :3? |
| 18:10.29 | Mikk | FDDI hubs running 15(?)-lead copper to stuff |
| 18:10.32 | Mikk | nomnomnmom |
| 18:10.45 | Mikk | (No, FDDI does NOT imply fiber :>) |
| 18:11.06 | Mikk | Wires thick as fucking VGA cables |
| 18:12.00 | Lunessa | Mmmm, token ring. |
| 18:12.13 | Mikk | Oh dear I had totally expunged that from my recollection |
| 18:12.23 | Mikk | shudders |
| 18:12.45 | Lunessa | Haha... Anyone remember Connectix? |
| 18:12.59 | bluspacecow | vaguely |
| 18:13.02 | bluspacecow | what it do ? |
| 18:13.06 | bluspacecow | can you eat it ? |
| 18:13.15 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 18:13.21 | durcyn | man, that's a brutal wikipedia page |
| 18:13.21 | bluspacecow | Virtual Gamestation ? |
| 18:13.26 | Lunessa | They made the first "QuickCam" and they made an AppleTalk device for Windows. |
| 18:13.28 | durcyn | Connectix Corporation was a software and hardware company, noted for having released innovative products that were either made obsolete as Apple Computer incorporated the ideas into system software, or were sold to other companies once they become popular. |
| 18:13.36 | bluspacecow | ~wiki Connectix |
| 18:13.38 | Fisker | btw aero in the new virtual pc :3 |
| 18:13.57 | durcyn | infoboxes are evil |
| 18:14.05 | bluspacecow | im lazy |
| 18:14.12 | bluspacecow | *clicks wiki link* |
| 18:14.36 | Lunessa | I used that AppleTalk networking device for my home network when it was introduced. |
| 18:14.45 | bluspacecow | of course command-tabbing and using keywurl means im only really saving one keystroke >_> |
| 18:15.24 | bluspacecow | wait they did ram doubling first before RamDoubler ? |
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| 18:15.44 | Lunessa | Yers, but RamDoubler was popular. Better marketing. |
| 18:15.53 | bluspacecow | oh wait they did that one too |
| 18:16.01 | Ackis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10base2 tehehehe |
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| 18:16.12 | bluspacecow | ahhh i have fond memorys of VGS |
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| 18:16.31 | bluspacecow | saturdays biking to video stores to rent Playstation games then back home to play em on VGS |
| 18:16.39 | bluspacecow | Final Fantasy 7 :) |
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| 18:18.16 | bluspacecow | theres an emulator for Playstation that works on OS X but i cant remember the name of it right now .... pretty sure it works in 10.5 too |
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| 18:28.57 | Adys | didnt blizz add a slash command to randomly select a mount? |
| 18:28.59 | Adys | or was i smoking? |
| 18:29.14 | alestane | I think you were smoking. |
| 18:30.21 | bluspacecow | if so pls share |
| 18:33.44 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110334209&sid=1 |
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| 18:34.05 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday thread for Slouken |
| 18:34.19 | bluspacecow | who? |
| 18:34.23 | bluspacecow | *ducks* |
| 18:34.31 | Cairenn | ! |
| 18:34.39 | Cairenn | glares at bluspacecow |
| 18:35.07 | nevcairiel | seriously, who? :P he hasnt been around for us poor UIlers in along time =( |
| 18:35.15 | bluspacecow | It is believed that Slouken's avatar is not an accident. He looks quite a bit like it, except younger and without a hat. |
| 18:35.17 | Cairenn | I know :( |
| 18:35.31 | nevcairiel | did they send zoot away as well? |
| 18:35.35 | nevcairiel | havent seen him around either |
| 18:35.57 | Ackis | yup |
| 18:36.12 | Cairenn | slouken moved to another project a while ago, zoot changed departments again a little bit ago |
| 18:36.46 | Thunder_Child | another project = new mmo |
| 18:37.09 | Cairenn | no idea |
| 18:37.11 | alestane | New something, I think, no-one will tell me what. |
| 18:37.39 | Thunder_Child | i think someone posted it somewhere. didnt GC go to the new one as well? |
| 18:37.57 | alestane | I would be surprised, GC still seems to be deeply involved in WoW. |
| 18:38.11 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..maybe it was someone else then |
| 18:38.32 | Cairenn | GC? |
| 18:38.41 | Thunder_Child | GhostCrawler |
| 18:38.46 | Cairenn | ah |
| 18:38.51 | Cairenn | different forum :p |
| 18:41.41 | Fisker | Cairenn slouken hast forsaken thou |
| 18:42.02 | nevcairiel | GC is still one of the lead devs |
| 18:42.18 | nevcairiel | tigol did go to the new mmo, iirc |
| 18:42.35 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/157992062 |
| 18:42.38 | Fisker | do we even know how far GC goes back anyways? |
| 18:42.44 | Fisker | For all we know it's just Tseric in disguise |
| 18:43.08 | Cloudwolf | does any one know the buff id on hunger for blood? |
| 18:43.42 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=60177 |
| 18:43.56 | nevcairiel | well thats the one-point version :P |
| 18:43.58 | nevcairiel | there are 2 others |
| 18:44.07 | bluspacecow | Cloud : 3 |
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| 18:44.40 | bluspacecow | just kidding :) |
| 18:45.08 | Relcuse | in regards to performance, is there any difference between local function Foo() and local Foo = function(), or is that just differing coding styles only? |
| 18:45.10 | Cloudwolf | nevcairiel isn't that the old version? XD |
| 18:45.26 | nevcairiel | pf, look it up on wowhead yourself then :P |
| 18:45.53 | Cloudwolf | just wow head serached hunger for blood theres 1 item 1 talnet 1 recipe and 5 uncatagorized spells |
| 18:46.04 | ScytheBlade1 | whaaaaaat @ zoot |
| 18:46.19 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: ? |
| 18:46.19 | Cloudwolf | foudn the right one |
| 18:46.47 | ScytheBlade1 | switching teams or depts or whatever |
| 18:46.54 | Cairenn | oh |
| 18:46.55 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 18:47.11 | nevcairiel | i dont even know who is doing the UI these days |
| 18:47.19 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1955/ <-lawl |
| 18:47.40 | nevcairiel | zoot was great, he even was fun on irc when he was here |
| 18:47.44 | Lunessa | Cairenn: YOU INVOKED HIM AND HE APPEARED! |
| 18:47.57 | Cairenn | I'm magic |
| 18:48.24 | Lunessa | That remains to be seen. I have meters and jars and wires and stuff to hook up to you at BlizzCon. |
| 18:48.28 | Cloudwolf | they havn't added anything for isle of conquest mark of honor yet have they hmm... darn oh well |
| 18:48.37 | Cairenn | Lunessa: lol |
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| 18:53.23 | Ackis | Fisker: don't you have those games already? |
| 18:54.25 | Fisker | almost all of the good ones yeah ;( |
| 18:54.34 | Fisker | "Acount hacked by ingame whisper!" |
| 18:54.36 | Fisker | Interesting |
| 18:54.38 | Fisker | *clicks* |
| 18:54.50 | Fisker | "My friend got keylogged by those who whisper to you ingame and tell you to "log on blizz-something.com" to get free mount trial. " |
| 18:54.56 | Fisker | *disappointment face* |
| 18:55.00 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:55.13 | bluspacecow | *facepalm* |
| 18:55.19 | Fisker | what's a free mount trial anyways? |
| 18:55.29 | bluspacecow | run it throgh a whois to find out if blizzard owns it or not |
| 18:55.30 | Fisker | Try this mount for 30 days and then we remove it again? ;D |
| 18:55.34 | Cide | lua> 2*0.2617, math.pi-2*0.2617, 1.30899-0.2617 |
| 18:55.34 | lua_bot | Cide: 0.5234, 2.6181926535898, 1.04729 |
| 18:55.45 | bluspacecow | its a fake way of getting wow acct logins |
| 18:56.03 | Cide | lua> 2*0.2617, math.pi/2-2*0.2617, 1.30899-0.2617 |
| 18:56.03 | lua_bot | Cide: 0.5234, 1.0473963267949, 1.04729 |
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| 19:05.37 | Shirik | huggles Cairenn |
| 19:05.44 | Cairenn | huggles Shirik |
| 19:06.47 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:06.48 | nicoli_s | hey, no pda! |
| 19:06.48 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:06.59 | Fisker | fixed forever |
| 19:07.08 | Shirik | lua> 9*2.619, math.pi/9-9*2.619, 11.681-2.619 |
| 19:07.08 | lua_bot | Shirik: 23.571, -23.221934149601, 9.062 |
| 19:07.10 | Shirik | Cide ^ |
| 19:07.11 | Cairenn | slaps a large trout around with Fisker |
| 19:07.22 | Thunder_Child | http://www.sundayat10.com/?num=287 |
| 19:07.31 | Cide | Shirik: huh? |
| 19:07.44 | Shirik | Seemed like you wanted some numbers |
| 19:07.48 | Shirik | just trying to be helpful :( |
| 19:08.45 | Cide | :D |
| 19:08.48 | Cide | thank you |
| 19:09.43 | Lunessa | someone bring me a beer and a cheeseburger? |
| 19:09.54 | Shirik | i can haz cheezburger? |
| 19:10.11 | Lunessa | No. Not yours. |
| 19:10.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:11.15 | Lunessa | I was running late this morning so I skipped grabbing food before getting to work. /regret |
| 19:12.24 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 19:12.37 | bluspacecow | i have emergency backups for that sort of thing |
| 19:13.01 | bluspacecow | "one square meal" basically a well designed energy museli bar |
| 19:13.33 | Lunessa | Eating those generally means I need anti-depressants. |
| 19:13.59 | bluspacecow | before or after eating ? |
| 19:14.28 | Lunessa | After - note the subtle Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference. |
| 19:15.03 | bluspacecow | meh i fail then |
| 19:16.08 | Lunessa | Zaphod talking to the man who rescues him and they're discussing that his towel has been soaked in wheat germ on one croner to provide nutrition and another corner with anti-depressants. |
| 19:16.36 | bluspacecow | oh i remember that |
| 19:16.47 | bluspacecow | just been so long since i read any douglas adams |
| 19:18.33 | bluspacecow | ;( |
| 19:18.40 | bluspacecow | time to go to work :( |
| 19:18.50 | bluspacecow | ~time |
| 19:18.51 | purl | 2009.08.07 19:18:51 GMT |
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| 19:25.40 | DWSR | om nom. |
| 19:25.43 | DWSR | wait. |
| 19:25.45 | DWSR | sorry. |
| 19:25.48 | *** part/#wowuidev DWSR (n=brandonm@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
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| 19:25.59 | DWSR | oh hai |
| 19:26.24 | Shirik | ohai |
| 19:26.32 | DWSR | Shirik! |
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| 19:27.22 | DWSR | How's Minion today Shirik? |
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| 19:28.54 | Cide | lua> math.acos(0.5) |
| 19:28.54 | lua_bot | Cide: 1.0471975511966 |
| 19:29.19 | Cide | lua> math.acos(0.5)/4 |
| 19:29.19 | lua_bot | Cide: 0.26179938779915 |
| 19:31.51 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.2.x ToC: 30200 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Sign up for BC UI dinner: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25437 | "The Web is like a dominatrix. Everywhere I turn, I see little buttons ordering me to Submit." - Nytwind |
| 19:34.37 | Shirik | Minion is not happy |
| 19:34.38 | Shirik | I am at work |
| 19:35.04 | DWSR | Aww. |
| 19:35.04 | Shirik | . |
| 19:35.09 | DWSR | feeds the Minion |
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| 19:35.36 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#413708 |
| 19:36.49 | DWSR | Adys: That's win. :) |
| 19:37.08 | Industrial | lmao |
| 19:37.11 | Industrial | so im in a pug right |
| 19:37.28 | Industrial | and this guys like afk gotta take grandma down the stairs |
| 19:37.46 | Industrial | thats be funniest reason to afk ive heard evar :D? |
| 19:38.27 | alestane | Not exactly funny in a "haha" kind of way, but sort of funny in the "that''s odd" sense. |
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| 19:39.06 | Shirik | C# you fail me |
| 19:39.19 | Shirik | int? foo = condition ? 1 : null; // Illegal |
| 19:39.26 | alestane | Adys: It translated "turn" in the sense of "turn on the light". |
| 19:39.29 | Shirik | int? foo = condition ? 1 : (int?) null; // legal |
| 19:39.38 | Shirik | Why the heck should I be forced to cast null |
| 19:39.44 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:40.38 | DWSR | Shirik: BECAUSE IN SOVIET RUSSIA\ |
| 19:40.40 | DWSR | etc. |
| 19:42.36 | Cide | lua>math.acos(math.cos(0)) |
| 19:42.36 | lua_bot | Cide: 0 |
| 19:43.49 | Dewin | Is Shirik around? |
| 19:44.14 | DWSR | yes |
| 19:44.18 | Dewin | *scrolls up* I know he was 4 minutes ago. |
| 19:44.18 | Shirik | no |
| 19:44.19 | Adys | Shirik: are you around? |
| 19:44.24 | nevcairiel | Shirik: wtf is an "int?" ? |
| 19:44.31 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Integer? |
| 19:44.45 | mikma | intellect? |
| 19:44.48 | nevcairiel | i'm more interested in the questionmark |
| 19:44.49 | nevcairiel | not the int |
| 19:44.50 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:44.54 | Shirik | it's a nullable integer |
| 19:44.56 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 19:44.57 | Shirik | an int that can be null |
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| 19:45.06 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#416802 |
| 19:45.08 | Adys | me yoda |
| 19:45.09 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 19:45.13 | nevcairiel | i bet it came with LINQ |
| 19:45.15 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/swedish_breakfast.jpg |
| 19:45.23 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 19:45.31 | Shirik | pretty sure it's been around for a while |
| 19:45.49 | nevcairiel | databases is the first place that i could think of that uses nullable ints :) |
| 19:46.13 | Shirik | Looks like it existed in .NET 2.0 |
| 19:46.33 | Dewin | Shirik: I don't know if this particular error is your domain or not, but I'm trying to update Broker: Macaroon via wowinterface and it's getting "Error: Invalid CRC (expected 0x0 but got 0x4fa0c4c8)" |
| 19:46.34 | Shirik | int? is really just shorthand for Nullable<int> |
| 19:46.42 | Dewin | And it's thinking Broker: Paladin Buffer is dependant on Broker: Macaroon |
| 19:46.43 | Shirik | wow, that's a new one Dewin |
| 19:46.56 | nevcairiel | Ah, now it makes sense |
| 19:47.09 | Dewin | Everything else updates fine fwiw |
| 19:47.10 | Shirik | and the dependencies are just a guess; it would realize it after downloading Macaroon |
| 19:47.29 | Shirik | tbh sounds like Macaroon's file is corrupt |
| 19:47.31 | Shirik | mine showing me the log? |
| 19:47.41 | DWSR | s/mine/mind/ |
| 19:47.49 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:47.51 | durcyn | spellingowned |
| 19:47.52 | Shirik | that |
| 19:47.56 | DWSR | Nah |
| 19:48.01 | Dewin | it's Broker Macaroon, not Macaroon. Separate addon. |
| 19:48.03 | DWSR | I'm just helping shirik. |
| 19:48.03 | Dewin | Let me find the log |
| 19:48.04 | nevcairiel | smartasses, all over the place |
| 19:48.09 | Shirik | nevcairiel wins :) |
| 19:48.12 | Shirik | "The ability to assign null to numeric and Boolean types is especially useful when you are dealing with databases and other data types that contain elements that may not be assigned a value. For example, a Boolean field in a database can store the values true or false, or it may be undefined. " |
| 19:48.13 | Dewin | ... where would this mythical log be? |
| 19:48.19 | Shirik | ~minion-logs |
| 19:48.19 | purl | it has been said that minion-logs is %APPDATA%\MMOUI\Minion\log.txt; OSX: ~/Library/Application Support/Minion/log.txt; Linux: ~/.Minion/log.txt |
| 19:48.34 | DWSR | omg. |
| 19:48.41 | DWSR | Someone who knows that %APPDATA% actually exists. |
| 19:48.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:48.57 | nevcairiel | purl is real smart |
| 19:49.04 | Shirik | wtf purl isn't smart |
| 19:49.06 | nevcairiel | she knows things |
| 19:49.07 | Shirik | ~factinfo minion-logs |
| 19:49.07 | purl | minion-logs -- created by ScytheBlade1 <n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1> at Wed Jul 1 01:56:26 2009 (37 days); last modified 2d 19h 16m 32s ago by Shirik!n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik; it has been requested 10 times, last by Shirik, 48s ago. |
| 19:49.39 | Dewin | It's hueg like xbox, should I delete it and try again to get a smaller log? |
| 19:49.49 | Shirik | sure :P |
| 19:49.57 | Shirik | but it will probably still be fairly large |
| 19:50.00 | Shirik | it's pretty verbose |
| 19:50.07 | m^rk | when i user switches spec SPELLS_CHANGED keeps getting called over and over which appears to lock up my addon.. is there anyway to detect that to deal with it? seems it would be a common problem |
| 19:50.13 | Dewin | yeah, but it was 30 MB :) |
| 19:50.23 | Dewin | At first glance it looks like an XML error. |
| 19:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | No, that is ignored |
| 19:50.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't worry about it |
| 19:51.03 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#418882 |
| 19:51.16 | nicoli_s | thats awesome |
| 19:51.17 | nevcairiel | lol adys |
| 19:51.25 | DWSR | Adys: Win. |
| 19:52.16 | Dewin | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/120336 |
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| 19:53.07 | Lunessa | WTF - http://translationparty.com/tp/#415439 |
| 19:53.25 | Shirik | please shut down minion before getting the log |
| 19:53.29 | Shirik | the last line should be "Log closing" |
| 19:53.31 | Dewin | oh, okay. |
| 19:53.32 | nevcairiel | you speak perfect japanese-english, Lunessa |
| 19:53.59 | Dewin | I'll go ahead and pastey the *entire* thing then |
| 19:54.27 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: I pasted it to my WoW Forum .sig. |
| 19:54.45 | Dewin | or I'll crash firefox trying to. |
| 19:55.11 | Dewin | MySQL error prevented this operation from completing |
| 19:55.53 | Dewin | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/120336 |
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| 19:59.20 | Dewin | worth noting I can download it off wowi and open it just fine, but it's still possible it really is a corrupt ZIP file that windows and winrar ignores the error on. |
| 19:59.30 | Kaso | What is this "[Persons] Deadly Poison was absorbed by [Me] for a moment. (747 Absorbed)." |
| 19:59.33 | Cide | lua> math.acos(math.cos(-1)) |
| 19:59.34 | lua_bot | Cide: 1 |
| 19:59.34 | Kaso | whats the moment bit about/ |
| 19:59.51 | Dewin | well, corrupt as in the free zipping program that made it forgot to actually SET the crc field |
| 19:59.52 | Adys | its a dot |
| 19:59.59 | DWSR | Kaso: DoT, I should think. |
| 20:00.53 | Cide | lua> math.acos(-1) |
| 20:00.53 | lua_bot | Cide: 3.1415926535898 |
| 20:01.00 | Cide | lua> math.acos(-1)/4 |
| 20:01.00 | lua_bot | Cide: 0.78539816339745 |
| 20:01.08 | DWSR | Cide: #lua. |
| 20:01.15 | Cide | nah |
| 20:01.25 | Cide | I'm way more important than you are |
| 20:01.28 | Kaso | lol |
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| 20:05.30 | Lunessa | Cide is. From Cide does all sarcasm flow. He binds the universe together. He maketh the lion lay down with the lamb. He slaughtereth the n00bs. Blessed is the name Cide, for he shall lead your code into the promised land. |
| 20:05.46 | Cide | you think that was sarcasm? 8) |
| 20:05.56 | Dewin | the promised land of 1.00 stable? |
| 20:06.12 | Lunessa | Hey, the problem with dogma is that it's unchanging. |
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| 20:06.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Kody-] by ChanServ |
| 20:06.55 | Kraps | is it a problem? |
| 20:07.19 | nicoli_s | http://translationparty.com/tp/#423702 |
| 20:07.40 | Lunessa | Kraps: Depends - am I speaking ex-cathrdra here? |
| 20:07.46 | Kraps | is that site sfw? |
| 20:07.49 | Lunessa | ex-cathedra even |
| 20:07.51 | DWSR | Kraps: Yes. |
| 20:07.57 | DWSR | Text-only. |
| 20:08.06 | Kraps | idk what that means Lunessa |
| 20:08.44 | Lunessa | "Out of the pulpit/cathedral" in other words - am I speaking to make new dgoma? :p |
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| 20:08.52 | Lunessa | And I can't frelling type. |
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| 20:12.08 | Dewin | oh what the heck. |
| 20:12.18 | NeoTron | http://translationparty.com/tp/#425090 equilibrium impossible! |
| 20:12.24 | Kraps | DWSR: clicking find equilibrium doesnt do anything |
| 20:12.28 | NeoTron | back into English |
| 20:12.39 | NeoTron | BANIHOPPINGU! |
| 20:12.43 | Dewin | with apologies to Lunessa and Cide: http://translationparty.com/tp/#425137 |
| 20:12.52 | DWSR | Kraps: You have to type a phrase in the top. |
| 20:13.19 | Kraps | like what? hello world doesnt work? |
| 20:13.20 | Lunessa | Dewin: Haha... it doesn't work for that. |
| 20:13.47 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#425630 |
| 20:14.36 | DWSR | Dewin: Win. :D |
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| 20:16.00 | Kraps | in fact all these links just show the input box and the button |
| 20:16.20 | NeoTron | just reload |
| 20:16.26 | Adys | js disabled Kraps ? |
| 20:16.51 | Kraps | how can i check? |
| 20:16.59 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#426120 |
| 20:17.37 | NeoTron | wow Adys that's pretty amazing |
| 20:21.22 | alestane | The first sentence of the equilibrium point really comes out more like "My dog is being used for that." |
| 20:21.45 | Adys | ~baby kicks! |
| 20:21.45 | purl | ACTION kicks baby! |
| 20:21.45 | Adys | ~baby kicks |
| 20:21.46 | purl | ACTION kicks baby! |
| 20:21.46 | Adys | :( |
| 20:21.46 | DWSR | ~lart Adys |
| 20:21.46 | purl | pries Adys's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Adys |
| 20:21.53 | NeoTron | "Sophisticated, ARUJAN participants, this event is under the sky, the art of war and destruction, the roar of the battle, called the bones of the face." |
| 20:22.07 | NeoTron | fear the bones of the face |
| 20:22.07 | Industrial | alestane: on the grandmother thing; yeah more something like MOM IM BUSY but funnier :P |
| 20:22.11 | NeoTron | http://translationparty.com/tp/#427853 |
| 20:22.51 | DWSR | NeoTron: rofl. |
| 20:25.00 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#429119 |
| 20:25.47 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/someones-sleeping-on-the-tarmac-tonight/2325 |
| 20:26.22 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/oh-you-slay-me/2324 |
| 20:28.00 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#430035 |
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| 20:28.45 | DWSR | Adys: AHAHAHA |
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| 20:28.55 | DWSR | That's win. |
| 20:29.44 | nevcairiel | i wonder where it got the japanese in there |
| 20:29.56 | Adys | in the original sentence. |
| 20:29.59 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:30.01 | nevcairiel | i'm blind |
| 20:30.04 | nevcairiel | it just moved it to the end |
| 20:31.00 | Adys | http://translationparty.com/tp/#430946 |
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| 20:32.47 | NightHawkTheSane | .... |
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| 20:35.54 | Kraps | http://expertvoices.nsdl.org/cornell-info204/2009/04/07/i-heard-you-like-memes/ |
| 20:36.25 | Cloudwolf | ROFL LOL WHUT |
| 20:36.43 | Cloudwolf | i justmade one that said it is doubtful that htis phrase wil ever reach equilibrium |
| 20:36.52 | Industrial | Kraps: NO U |
| 20:37.02 | Cloudwolf | adys http://translationparty.com/tp/#432543 |
| 20:37.31 | Kraps | Industrial: too many low signals hmm? |
| 20:39.02 | Industrial | Kraps: fun read though |
| 20:39.09 | Kraps | ty |
| 20:42.10 | Cloudwolf | ROFL you so funny turns into you are very interesting in 3 steps |
| 20:42.33 | p3lim | how do I push to a tag? (git) |
| 20:43.08 | Industrial | just make a new branch and name it something, I think? |
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| 20:48.18 | Arrowmaster | i got an amazing spam email |
| 20:48.46 | Industrial | Do tell |
| 20:49.02 | Arrowmaster | here is a little clip from the source |
| 20:49.04 | Industrial | I get genuine japanese porn spam, one-up me |
| 20:49.06 | Arrowmaster | hat means you can join Lockerz.<br/>For free. Today. Right now. <a HREF="http://10.253.131.81/signup/8a7c0bce4709f43a732d34a8ae29320882ae5f5f27926">Click on in.</font></A></br> |
| 20:49.10 | EmkioA | Hello, im looking how to make the "proffesion link", any idea? |
| 20:49.14 | Industrial | genuine targeted* |
| 20:49.37 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: notice anything wrong with it? |
| 20:50.00 | Industrial | malformed HTML? |
| 20:50.07 | Arrowmaster | look closer |
| 20:50.50 | Arrowmaster | specifically at the url |
| 20:50.57 | Industrial | yeah k |
| 20:51.06 | NightHawkTheSane | http://translationparty.com/tp/#437078 |
| 20:51.09 | Arrowmaster | http://10.253.131.81/signup/8a7c0bce4709f43a732d34a8ae29320882ae5f5f27926 |
| 20:51.40 | Industrial | I see what they did there. |
| 20:51.47 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: sorry, I just clicked that. |
| 20:51.54 | foxlit | You may now proceed to receive more spam. |
| 20:52.23 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: if only it was a routable address |
| 20:52.30 | foxlit | [fortunately, I have no connectivity to that IP] |
| 20:52.35 | Arrowmaster | nobody does |
| 20:53.06 | NeoTron | http://translationparty.com/tp/#432274 amazing part is that an equilibrium is reached eventually |
| 20:53.17 | Industrial | I wonder if the companies that buy spam to be sent for them actually make money off of it |
| 20:53.18 | Arrowmaster | 10.*.*.* is a reserved subnet for lan's no internet router will route traffic to it |
| 20:53.28 | Industrial | well if they wouldnt spam wouldnt exist, obviously |
| 20:55.11 | Torhal | 10.*.*.* is the larger equivalent of 192.168.*.* |
| 20:55.35 | Arrowmaster | and 172.16.*.* |
| 20:55.45 | Torhal | Hrm. Didn't know about that one. |
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| 20:59.14 | foxlit | Underbelly elixir == awesome |
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| 20:59.39 | EmkioA | is there a way to reproduce the "profession link button"? |
| 21:00.12 | foxlit | When two profession link buttons love each other very much.... |
| 21:00.27 | EmkioA | lol |
| 21:00.36 | EmkioA | rofl |
| 21:00.44 | EmkioA | good answer ^^ |
| 21:01.37 | EmkioA | but this is not helping me ;) |
| 21:01.38 | foxlit | There's probably an API function. |
| 21:02.05 | foxlit | Then again, if you want to generate a link without having that profession, things look grim. |
| 21:02.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i think its still possible |
| 21:03.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i seem to recall .. malreth? wrote an addon that could c reate arbitrary profession links |
| 21:03.14 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOkNIUw0c2s |
| 21:03.18 | EmkioA | no i just want to reproduce my own profession link |
| 21:03.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i would examine the api methods available |
| 21:03.48 | EmkioA | just trying to reproduce the proffession dialog box for learning a little bit ^^ |
| 21:04.09 | Ackis | foxlit: it's not hard to generate the link |
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| 21:05.06 | EmkioA | i have the macro to generate the link, i want the button ^^ |
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| 21:05.37 | EmkioA | /script CastSpellByName(#prof#);SendChatMessage("I'll create items against mats, look out: "..GetTradeSkillListLink(),"CHANNEL",nil,GetChannelName("Trade - City"));CloseTradeSkill |
| 21:05.43 | EmkioA | this generate the link |
| 21:06.02 | Ackis | that's only going to work if your profession is open |
| 21:06.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: sure, but the CSBN takes care of that |
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| 21:07.05 | Ackis | aye |
| 21:07.22 | Ackis | but don't you want to do it for professions you don't have? |
| 21:07.49 | Ackis | lua> floor((555+5) / 6) |
| 21:07.50 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'floor' (a nil value) |
| 21:07.50 | kaiden | *boggle* |
| 21:08.00 | Ackis | lua> math.floor((555+5) / 6) |
| 21:08.00 | lua_bot | Ackis: 93 |
| 21:08.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i think what he's looking for, and not actually explaining well at all, is he wants to create the little 'link' button thats in the standard tradeskill window? |
| 21:08.23 | EmkioA | in fact i just want to reproduce the profession dialog for learning purpose, so i just want to link profession that i have |
| 21:08.32 | EmkioA | yes NightHawkTheSane |
| 21:08.36 | Ackis | ah |
| 21:08.38 | EmkioA | excuse my poor english |
| 21:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | in which case, i repeat, examine the API methods available. |
| 21:08.58 | NightHawkTheSane | looking at the framexml for the professions frame will also help |
| 21:08.59 | Ackis | lua> foo = math.floor((555+5) / 6); string.rep("/",foo) |
| 21:08.59 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
| 21:09.50 | EmkioA | is Blizzard_TrainerUI.xml the professions frame? |
| 21:11.49 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/sadly-this-amounts-to-a-sex-life/2312 |
| 21:13.15 | Ackis | lua> foo = math.floor((244+5) / 6) |
| 21:13.15 | lua_bot | Ackis: No output |
| 21:13.22 | Ackis | lua> math.floor((244+5) / 6) |
| 21:13.23 | lua_bot | Ackis: 41 |
| 21:13.28 | Ackis | lua> math.floor((251+5) / 6) |
| 21:13.29 | lua_bot | Ackis: 42 |
| 21:13.32 | Ackis | bleh |
| 21:18.01 | EmkioA | ok find it SkillFrame.xml |
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| 21:24.01 | EmkioA | find, TradeSkillLinkButton into TradSkillUI.xml thanx |
| 21:25.59 | luigithekid | in pitbull4 Layout editor, the fader tab lets you fade out of range units, is there a way to set the range when the unit fades? |
| 21:26.53 | Kraps | why are there hot girls in t-shirt ads, but none at the actual sites? |
| 21:27.24 | Shefki | luigithekid: No, there's a ticket asking for a way to customize that. |
| 21:27.42 | luigithekid | k, thanks |
| 21:29.32 | EmkioA | Thanx near working just need to crop the texture :) |
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| 21:34.02 | NeoTron | http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/hard-drive-weight-increasing/ |
| 21:36.33 | NeoTron | Google needs a Bits to Pound calculator |
| 21:37.23 | Atriace | Anyone know how up-to-date the reference library on WoWProgramming.com is? |
| 21:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Relatively very up to date |
| 21:37.47 | ScytheBlade1 | In most all areas, much more up to date than wowwiki |
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| 21:49.08 | Cloudwolf | Ok i know this isn't in the realms of coding but im having issues setting up hunger for blood with power auras |
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| 21:52.29 | Cloudwolf | nvm figures it out |
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| 22:19.58 | Thunder_Child | this actually sounds good "Pizzaco: Papa John's pizza + hard (or soft) taco from Taco Bell: A concept that is both deliciously simple and simply delicious." |
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| 22:21.44 | alestane | So, is that just a combo meal, or is the pizza, like, inside the taco? |
| 22:21.55 | Thunder_Child | inside |
| 22:22.01 | Thunder_Child | as far as i can tell |
| 22:22.14 | Thunder_Child | not so sure about "Hambaco: Western Bacon Cheeseburger from Carl's Junior + Taco Supreme from Taco Bell: Holy fucking shit. It will take you three days to get the smile off your face." |
| 22:22.32 | _rane | 34 |
| 22:22.41 | alestane | So, does one just get these two things and stuff one inside the other? |
| 22:23.12 | Thunder_Child | i can only imagine, take a look at http://forums.binary-underground.com/index.php?topic=1659.0 |
| 22:25.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: the former sounds disgusting, the latter sounds.. not terrible |
| 22:25.32 | NightHawkTheSane | but papa johns ranks near the bottom of pizza quality for me |
| 22:25.48 | Cloudwolf | alphys = horrid |
| 22:25.56 | Thunder_Child | well pizza + taco sounds good, regardless of location |
| 22:26.46 | Fisker | ¤"%!(¤&"¤"! |
| 22:27.07 | Fisker | I just deposited a 100g worth of gems in auction house deposits |
| 22:27.16 | Fisker | and then i sold them in stacks of 20 |
| 22:27.18 | Fisker | = fial |
| 22:27.18 | Fisker | fail |
| 22:29.08 | cbreak | deposits only matter if stuff doesn't sell |
| 22:30.15 | Fisker | yeah |
| 22:30.28 | Fisker | and i don't think i'll sell 20 epic gems at once |
| 22:30.35 | luigithekid | anyone know how to disable the border on eventhorizon? config.bg = "Interface\\ChatFrame\\ChatFrameBackground" can I just type "none" ? |
| 22:30.47 | Cide- | nope |
| 22:32.04 | Thunder_Child | hah http://www.sundayat10.com/?num=319 |
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| 22:40.10 | ZorbaBeta | I love it when people blatantly lie in bug reports |
| 22:40.29 | ZorbaBeta | "Here's my crash log. When I type "/qh version", it says 1.1.9. What's wrong?" "Questhelper isn't listed in the addons in your crash log." |
| 22:41.38 | Vonhinten | omg, questhelper = rootkit! |
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| 22:42.11 | Shefki | ZorbaBeta: I like the bug reports from people that are on private realms the most. |
| 22:42.30 | Shefki | "umm yeah I magically have bags bigger than Blizzard gives to players." |
| 22:43.03 | ZorbaBeta | shefki, I doubly love those because Questhelper actually pops up a window saying "hey QH is not supported on private servers". |
| 22:43.13 | ZorbaBeta | Then I get people saying "it says its not supported on private servers, whats wrong". |
| 22:45.00 | foxlit | "The fantastic element that explains the appeal of games to many developers is neither the fire-breathing monsters nor the milky-skinned, semi-clad sirens; it is the experience of carrying out a task from start to finish without any change in the user requirements." |
| 22:45.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ZorbaBeta: you'll get messages both ways, might as well take a chance to yell at the most stupid of the stupid |
| 22:49.17 | Shefki | ZorbaBeta: Ohh how are you detecting the private realms? |
| 22:49.27 | foxlit | check realmlist cvar |
| 22:49.41 | ZorbaBeta | shefki, I just look for functions that I know exist on the most recent version and not on older versions |
| 22:49.45 | ZorbaBeta | if they don't exist, hey, private realm |
| 22:49.54 | foxlit | or china. |
| 22:50.01 | foxlit | Or europe, 1 day of a patch cycle. |
| 22:50.22 | ZorbaBeta | true. I really just support the newest version and not older versions |
| 22:50.31 | Shefki | Yeah I wouldn't use something like that, it's hard to keep track of all the regions and what versions they're running. |
| 22:50.48 | Shefki | realmlist might be a possiblity though. |
| 22:51.13 | Shefki | Why doesn't Blizzard just make the release client locked to specific realm lists. |
| 22:52.10 | Cide- | because it can be circumvented anyway |
| 22:54.02 | Shefki | Cide-: Sure but it would discourage more casual people who are the source of most of the bug reports I see. |
| 22:54.27 | Cide- | the casual people who are playing on private servers |
| 22:54.29 | Cide- | I see. |
| 22:55.07 | Shefki | Cide-: You really think most of those people are going to bother to patch the client to get around something like that? I think not. |
| 22:55.30 | Cide- | you think most of those people are actually casual? |
| 22:56.14 | Cide- | exactly. |
| 22:56.33 | Shefki | Yeah me doing something for a minute and not responding as fast as you want proves your point. |
| 22:56.49 | Shefki | rolls his eyes at Cide-. |
| 22:57.19 | foxlit | "Hey, go edit your config file to say this instead of that" |
| 22:57.20 | Cide- | no, but I'm right anyway |
| 22:57.24 | foxlit | "Hey, go run this program to play WoW" |
| 22:57.42 | foxlit | If anything, the latter seems easier. |
| 22:57.56 | Shefki | foxlit: Except that the later breaks the client from playing on Live. |
| 22:58.06 | Cide- | how so? |
| 22:58.06 | Shefki | And the former you just put the text file back. |
| 22:58.13 | foxlit | Why would you care? |
| 22:58.14 | Cide- | you could run two executables |
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| 22:58.27 | Shefki | Who the hell wants to keep two installs of wow around. |
| 22:58.28 | Cide- | no need to patch the current |
| 22:58.31 | Cide- | two executables |
| 22:58.33 | Cide- | not two installs |
| 22:58.47 | Adys | I got 4 wow installs |
| 22:58.48 | Cide- | let me know when you run out of pointless arguments |
| 22:58.49 | Adys | and thats not a lot |
| 22:58.52 | Adys | i used to keep like 10 |
| 22:58.53 | Cide- | Adys: it is :P |
| 22:59.05 | Adys | ptr eu, ptr us, live eu, live us |
| 22:59.23 | Adys | i used to have fucktons of alpha, beta and other shitty patched/unpatched/backup clients |
| 22:59.53 | foxlit | Shefki: you're suggesting that people who play on private servers also play on live servers. |
| 23:00.06 | Shefki | foxlit: Pretty sure quite a few of them do. |
| 23:00.23 | Adys | also I'd be quite pissed if they locked the realmlists |
| 23:00.25 | foxlit | why? |
| 23:00.39 | foxlit | (not you, Adys) |
| 23:00.41 | Adys | hint: id love to use only one wow client, I have to keep the US one around because of the bnet bullshitty bug |
| 23:00.47 | Cide- | why would you not use two separate executables? |
| 23:00.55 | Shefki | Based on the bug reports I get sometimes where they flat out tell me that it works fine on live but not on such and such private realm. |
| 23:01.09 | Adys | Cide-: who? |
| 23:01.11 | Cide- | Shefki: you're, however, missing a crucial point here |
| 23:01.32 | Cide- | blizzard's servers and private ones rarely, if ever, run the same version |
| 23:01.41 | Cide- | hence you'd need two installs anyway |
| 23:02.15 | Cide- | there, I win |
| 23:03.39 | EmkioA | if i want to use a string from globalstring.lua, do i just need to add it to .toc? |
| 23:03.59 | Shefki | Adys: By lock it I mostly mean lock it to the set of valid realm lists. Not lock it to the specific region that the game is to. |
| 23:03.59 | Adys | no |
| 23:04.02 | Adys | just use it, EmkioA |
| 23:04.08 | Adys | Shefki: ah |
| 23:04.17 | Adys | i dont see the point really |
| 23:04.33 | Shefki | In a large part it signals that this isn't permitted behavior. |
| 23:04.39 | Shefki | It's like a lock on your door. |
| 23:04.44 | Shefki | It won't stop anyone that really wants in. |
| 23:04.52 | Shefki | But it says "No you can't come in." |
| 23:05.20 | Shefki | Having a setting in the conf file that you can set to whatever you want signals exactly the opposite. |
| 23:05.47 | EmkioA | thanx Adys my mistake was somewhere else :) |
| 23:05.54 | Zyndrome | hmmm, where can I look up global variables, like LOOT_ITEM_SELF, on how it is formatted in-game |
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| 23:06.06 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.13 | DWSR | anyone here play a lock in PvP? |
| 23:06.22 | Zyndrome | Adys , ah |
| 23:06.24 | EmkioA | globalstring.lua |
| 23:06.30 | EmkioA | :) |
| 23:07.36 | Zyndrome | hands out swiss cake rolls |
| 23:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | nothing quite like autogenerated code |
| 23:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | adding about 20 bytes to the generator took a file from 20k lines to 200k lines |
| 23:13.49 | EmkioA | thanx again ++ |
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| 23:28.10 | Thunder_Child | lua> 25! |
| 23:28.10 | lua_bot | Thunder_Child: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '25' |
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| 23:35.28 | foxlit | "Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!" |
| 23:36.32 | foxlit | "[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo Click" |
| 23:36.59 | mikma | :DDD |
| 23:39.49 | foxlit | How is it that additional instances cannot be launched at 01:38? |
| 23:40.43 | Wobin | http://twittch.com/22/ |
| 23:40.46 | Wobin | >< |
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| 23:42.13 | Slafsinaggghg | foxlit: because the workers that lauch new instances have gone home for tonight? |
| 23:43.13 | foxlit | lazy scoundrels :( |
| 23:43.30 | NightHawkTheSan1 | pfft |
| 23:43.40 | NightHawkTheSan1 | its like quarter to f ive on a friday here |
| 23:43.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | if i were them, i'd have been gone an hour ago |
| 23:52.04 | foxlit | wailing caverns must be the polar opposite of Trial of the Champion in instance design |
| 23:52.09 | Adys | ~seen Maldivia |
| 23:52.11 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowuidev, last said: 'if you kill any before the 8th spawn, no hard-mode for you'. |
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