| 00:02.17 | Shirik | TC-Away: How the hell did I ever live without a histogram |
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| 00:06.52 | Wobin | shirik: Squinting |
| 00:07.21 | Shirik | omfg |
| 00:07.26 | Shirik | just found my best fireworks picture ever |
| 00:07.36 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/vibrator.jpg |
| 00:07.58 | alestane | Anyone know a tool that will take HTML 4 and spit out XHTML? |
| 00:08.40 | mikma | alestane: bash and joe for example |
| 00:08.55 | Wobin | PHP Tidy? |
| 00:09.09 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0fbf82c19bb5d28e439ed7c735ea858b.png |
| 00:09.10 | Shirik | Everything asploded |
| 00:09.31 | alestane | I'm just trying to convert a great deal of legacy code with features like UPPERCASE tags and no trailing slahses for empty tags. |
| 00:11.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ *may* help |
| 00:11.02 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/there_i_fixed_it.jpg |
| 00:14.02 | alestane | http://www.it.uc3m.es/jaf/html2xhtml/ |
| 00:14.33 | ScytheBlade1 | wow, that's even pretty recently developed |
| 00:15.18 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 00:15.42 | Fisker | have your images been manipulated by the imaging software called Adobe(r) Photoshop(r)? |
| 00:15.52 | Shirik | no |
| 00:16.24 | alestane | Works pretty nicely, actually. |
| 00:17.02 | Shirik | wow mikma |
| 00:22.59 | bleeter | mikma: nice |
| 00:23.23 | Shadowed | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 00:23.26 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowprogramming (10d 9m 49s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 2d 16h 2m 45s, last said: 'I hear assplosions'. |
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| 00:26.57 | Wobin | mikma: That's... actually quite clever =P |
| 00:27.22 | Wobin | Shirik: What was the 'flaw in workflow'? =) |
| 00:27.50 | Shirik | I have a workflow that guides my pictures from import through processing to submission on my site |
| 00:27.59 | Wobin | also, isn't having a high megapixel, fantastic? =) |
| 00:28.21 | Shirik | Whenever lightroom detects that a picture has been missed somewhere in the workflow, it sticks it in there |
| 00:28.53 | Shirik | I've been not doing any processing lately, so it's gotten a bit mad at me; Thats' what I'm doing now actually, trying to pull it back down to 0 |
| 00:29.04 | Shirik | and yes it is :) |
| 00:30.12 | Shirik | So like, I import the pictures, and in theory the next step is to pick out which ones should be rejected right away. So I flag them either as "rejected" or "green" |
| 00:30.41 | Shirik | Then out of the green pictures, I pick out which are worthy of beingp rocessed ("rejected/green" or "yellow") |
| 00:30.57 | Shirik | After processing I mark them red, then once they're submitted I mark them as done |
| 00:31.23 | Shirik | Any time a picture has no color flag, isn't rejected, and hasn't been touched in a week, it's marked as a flaw automatically |
| 00:31.41 | Shirik | works pretty well |
| 00:32.59 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 00:33.00 | purl | ~pong |
| 00:33.06 | Shirik | stupid roommates... |
| 00:34.58 | alestane | Why is support for {display: run-in; } so shitty? |
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| 00:48.30 | DWSR | Anyone that can help me (or point me to a mod that) changes colour depending on what modifier keys are pressde down? |
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| 00:49.57 | mikma | dwsr: err.. |
| 00:50.15 | DWSR | mikma: Sorry, that's an incomplete thought I know. |
| 00:50.17 | DWSR | Let me elaborate. |
| 00:51.04 | DWSR | I have an n52te game controller (http://www.n52te.com/). The way I have it set up, I have 3 keys that are bound to Ctrl, Shift and Alt respectively, so that I can page my action bars. |
| 00:51.39 | DWSR | I'm thinking that I will lay my actionbars out in a way that is similar to the way that the n52's buttons are (i.e. 3 rows of 5 buttons). |
| 00:51.56 | mikma | yeah, and |
| 00:52.11 | Arrowmaster | how do you plan to move your character |
| 00:52.16 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: d-pad. |
| 00:52.21 | DWSR | d-pad + mousemove. |
| 00:52.22 | Arrowmaster | good luck |
| 00:52.24 | mikma | n52 handles that |
| 00:52.28 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: It works excellent. |
| 00:52.29 | Arrowmaster | the d-pad on those things are shit |
| 00:52.44 | DWSR | I rebound everything and worked out the timing, it's actually excellent in PvP. |
| 00:53.05 | DWSR | Back on topic, however. |
| 00:53.06 | mikma | i remember when i did n52 layout in bartender2 for tekkub |
| 00:53.21 | tekkub | <3 my n52 |
| 00:53.29 | DWSR | I would like the leftmost buttons to basically light up whenever I'm pressing the corresponding button on my n52. |
| 00:54.01 | DWSR | So, 3 rows of 5 buttons each, with the leftmost ones doing nothing but lighting up whenever I'm pressing Ctrl, Alt, or Shift. |
| 00:54.16 | DWSR | I can easily do 4x3, and just page the actionbar. |
| 00:54.28 | DWSR | I would really like that column of buttons though. |
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| 00:54.48 | DWSR | mikma: Make sense? |
| 00:54.51 | DWSR | tekkub: How long have you owned one? |
| 00:55.09 | mikma | if IsShiftKeyDown() then for i=1,10 ActiobButtonNormalTexture:SetVertexColor(1,0,0) end end |
| 00:55.15 | mikma | huh |
| 00:55.20 | tekkub | I had a n50 when I played FFXI |
| 00:55.30 | mikma | thats messed up but anyway.. |
| 00:55.39 | tekkub | never been without :) |
| 00:56.13 | Arrowmaster | ive had my n52 since probably 2003 |
| 00:56.24 | DWSR | mikma: Just put that in a macro? |
| 00:56.39 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: I wouldn't use the d-pad in an FPS (and indeed I don't). |
| 00:56.42 | DWSR | But for WoW it works fine. |
| 00:57.09 | tekkub | I use the d-pad for targetting |
| 00:57.10 | DWSR | I use the d-pad as a weapon select in TF2. |
| 00:57.14 | tekkub | and down for moving back |
| 00:57.19 | Arrowmaster | i moved to an ideazon fang for wow a few years ago but still use the n52 for other games, if i still gamed much on pc i would probably look into upgrading to a g13 |
| 00:57.21 | mikma | dwsr: if you created the actionbuttons yourself, then its easy |
| 00:57.32 | tekkub | left == tab, up == set focus |
| 00:57.38 | DWSR | tekkub: Ah, that's a neat idea. |
| 00:57.41 | tekkub | right == target focus but I never use it |
| 00:58.00 | DWSR | tekkub: I have a thumb-togglewheel on my mouse, so I use that to cycle through targets and set focus. |
| 00:58.14 | Arrowmaster | between the dpad and other keys, i had every single weapon in ut2k4 hotkeyed because of the nifty weaponswap commands |
| 00:58.17 | tekkub | mouse is 100% click-casting |
| 00:58.17 | DWSR | I have 10 buttons on my mouse, and 15 + the dpad and scrollwheel on the n52. |
| 00:58.24 | tekkub | and middle click for autorun |
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| 00:59.27 | Arrowmaster | that stupid orange button and the space bar on the n52 are completely worthless |
| 01:00.09 | tekkub | space == jump :) |
| 01:00.13 | DWSR | ^ |
| 01:00.19 | DWSR | What orange button are you referring to? |
| 01:00.20 | tekkub | and orange for vent click to talk |
| 01:00.31 | tekkub | but... I have outbound voice completely disabled |
| 01:00.34 | tekkub | so I don't use it |
| 01:00.43 | DWSR | I have the thumb button to page the n52 to another set of binds. |
| 01:00.44 | Arrowmaster | the spacebar on mine isnt usable since it only works reliably when pressed directly in the center |
| 01:01.09 | tekkub | ah yea, I bump mine on the top edge |
| 01:01.25 | tekkub | and I don't use any paging at all |
| 01:01.37 | tekkub | 12 main actionbar buttons are it |
| 01:01.42 | Arrowmaster | and from what ive read the space is the same on all n52's, its one of the biggest complaints about it |
| 01:02.33 | tekkub | yea if they want you hitting it square it needs to stick out about half an inch more |
| 01:03.19 | DWSR | tekkub: I use mine to page so that I can bind stuff like opie rings for demons. |
| 01:03.33 | DWSR | tekkub: And then I have all the interface panels bound on the green page. |
| 01:03.51 | tekkub | interface panels I use are bound to shift-whatever |
| 01:04.00 | tekkub | and that's only really bags, char and quest log |
| 01:05.12 | tekkub | I only keep the stuff I use activly in combat on the pad |
| 01:05.29 | DWSR | I tend to use it instead of my keybard. |
| 01:05.30 | tekkub | everything else is default keyboard bindings or a button on the right bars |
| 01:05.31 | DWSR | keyboard* |
| 01:05.35 | DWSR | Because the palmrest is comfy. |
| 01:05.35 | Shirik | My camera is officially one month old now |
| 01:05.39 | Shirik | And it has 2209 pictures taken |
| 01:05.41 | DWSR | Grats. |
| 01:05.41 | Shirik | that's scary |
| 01:05.57 | tekkub | I don't think I've ever taken that many pictures |
| 01:06.01 | tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.04 | tekkub | *s |
| 01:11.10 | dardack_ | my wife takes a gazillion especially since we've had kids |
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| 01:13.54 | Shirik | omg juicy |
| 01:14.04 | Shirik | 400mm lens at f/2.8 |
| 01:14.07 | Shirik | only $8000 |
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| 01:14.19 | Shirik | I can put that on my wishlist for 8 years in the future |
| 01:14.20 | Gnarfoz | cheap |
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| 01:21.55 | kd3 | grr |
| 01:32.18 | Wobin | what are some good warlock addons? |
| 01:32.27 | ScytheBlade1 | !g warlock addon |
| 01:32.28 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Addons - Warlock - Addons - Curse <http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/categories/warlock.aspx> |
| 01:32.34 | DWSR | Wobin: Forte |
| 01:36.03 | Kraps | why do the gnomes want gnomeregan back so badly? |
| 01:36.13 | DWSR | They obviously don't. |
| 01:36.26 | DWSR | After how many MILLIONS of groups clearing that place out, they still haven't taken the city back? |
| 01:36.39 | DWSR | Obviously it's just a ploy to distract people from their real goal. |
| 01:36.41 | Kraps | just roll with it ok? |
| 01:37.25 | Kraps | because theres gnome place like home /badum kish |
| 01:37.46 | Kraps | a gm just told it to me |
| 01:38.15 | DWSR | hahaha |
| 01:38.55 | Dagmar | No one's killed enough of them to stop them respawning. |
| 01:39.46 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgLbGsUS-ls&feature=related The World of Warcraft Subliminal Message |
| 01:40.30 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:40.53 | Shirik | people look in the strangest places for "subliminal messages" |
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| 01:52.33 | tekkub | hehehehehe |
| 01:53.46 | tekkub | so I guess the old "in the dictionary under redundant it says 'see redundant'" has become "when you google 'recursion' it says 'did you mean recursion?'" |
| 01:55.08 | kd3 | rofl |
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| 01:55.55 | kd3 | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-helps-you-understand-recursion.html |
| 01:58.42 | Ackis | jade empire has made me angry :( |
| 01:58.54 | aesir | Happy to have suggested it for you then. |
| 02:00.00 | Ackis | there's a bug that prevents the game scripts from running in the "Pirate Workshop"... :( |
| 02:00.14 | aesir | I never got that far. |
| 02:00.31 | aesir | I really should start it up again though. I did like the looks of the game. |
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| 02:00.47 | Ackis | it's decent, just buggy apparently |
| 02:01.35 | aesir | someone has probably figured out a workaround ..maybe. Perhaps google around to see. |
| 02:02.08 | Ackis | oh I've been trying them for the last hour |
| 02:03.22 | aesir | Does this help? http://jade.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=681820&forum=102 |
| 02:03.45 | Ackis | look at the last post in that thread ;) |
| 02:04.21 | aesir | What a coincidence. Someone else named Ackis is having the same problem as you. *wanders off* |
| 02:04.39 | Ackis | lol :P |
| 02:05.05 | aesir | Anyway, what's new in ARL land? I've been offline for a couple of weeks. |
| 02:05.23 | Ackis | no idea been busy IRL lol pompy1 has been doing a lot of db maintenance |
| 02:05.34 | Ackis | we have all the expansion info added |
| 02:05.54 | Ackis | I've been trying to find my grad ring and grandfather's wedding band in the house... :( |
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| 02:06.11 | aesir | It's wierd. Only been out for two weeks and I think I've forgotten how to play wow. |
| 02:06.39 | Ackis | quit while you can |
| 02:07.05 | aesir | I'm looking for another game anyway. Perhaps a single player TBS game or something. |
| 02:09.42 | Shirik | wooh |
| 02:09.46 | Shirik | back down to 0 workflow flaws |
| 02:09.53 | Shirik | that means I'm allowed to go out to take sunset pictures tonight |
| 02:09.54 | Shirik | bai! |
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| 03:09.23 | Vonhinten | Anyone know of a really fast server to snag Ubuntu from? |
| 03:09.38 | kd3 | mirrors.kernel.org? |
| 03:09.41 | Vonhinten | The mirrors I've tried so far are attrocious |
| 03:10.01 | DWSR | Vonhinten: The torrents are great usually. |
| 03:10.07 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:10.07 | DWSR | I can usually get a few mbps from them. |
| 03:11.37 | Vonhinten | k, I'll try the torrent, missed that on the site |
| 03:12.27 | Vonhinten | yeah, that's better |
| 03:12.49 | Vonhinten | 1.15 MB/s |
| 03:12.55 | sacarasc | Slow. ;p |
| 03:14.01 | Vonhinten | better than the 1.5 KB/s I was getting from U of Texas Austin |
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| 03:39.22 | DWSR | How much damage does the vortex do on Maly25? |
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| 03:39.37 | Arrowmaster | 0 |
| 03:39.44 | Arrowmaster | is a warlock |
| 03:40.10 | Arrowmaster | or did they fix that? |
| 03:42.13 | sacarasc | They fixed it, I believe. |
| 03:42.31 | sacarasc | And it's about 10k on normal, under 22k on heroic. Not sure under 22k. |
| 03:43.19 | Arrowmaster | you could probably lookup the spell on wowhead |
| 03:43.32 | sacarasc | Or WoWwiki. |
| 03:46.00 | DWSR | They fixed it. |
| 03:46.03 | DWSR | I used to take no damage. |
| 03:46.07 | DWSR | Now I don't. |
| 03:48.04 | kd3 | oh presto, how I love you: |
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| 03:48.12 | kd3 | Presto reduced the updates to 48 M from 257 M which is a 82% savings. |
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| 03:50.59 | DWSR | Apparently quote-splitting on EJ is BAD. |
| 03:51.01 | DWSR | le sigh |
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| 03:52.43 | Aqua | anyone know if world of warcraft actually supports dual displays |
| 03:52.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:53.39 | tekkub | yes, no |
| 03:53.42 | Aqua | I've never messed with it but someone gave me a matching lcd to my main screen, so i was trying to see if you could like put your main stuff on one and like combat logs and stuff on the other |
| 03:53.54 | tekkub | it supports single displays spanned across two monitors |
| 03:53.55 | kd3 | you can with some viewport hackery |
| 03:54.49 | Aqua | thanks for the info guys, i just wall mounted 2 22 inch lcd's side by side, its kinda strange, with this much monitor to look at it |
| 03:55.53 | kd3 | ya, it took me some getting used to moving up to dual head from a single 4:3 17" |
| 03:56.08 | kd3 | now I can't ever go back |
| 03:56.15 | kd3 | hates having to work on a laptop/netbook |
| 03:56.17 | Aqua | did you not like it when you first started? |
| 03:56.26 | kd3 | I just didn't know what to do with all of my newfound space |
| 03:56.29 | Aqua | cause right now its awkward |
| 03:56.36 | kd3 | and having to find 16:10 wallpapers |
| 03:56.36 | Aqua | yea, maybe thats what it is |
| 03:57.05 | Aqua | i've got a 22, 22, cisco ip phone, lazer printer across my desk |
| 03:57.09 | Aqua | its a lot of viewing room |
| 03:57.58 | Arrowmaster | ive got a 20" 4:3 and have been thinking about getting a 24" 16:10 and using both, currently have a little 17" or so crt that i did have attached until last week but its farther back on the desk and its colors are all messed up and cant be fixed |
| 03:58.50 | Aqua | I'm gonna give this a week and see how it goes, its kinda akward atm, but i image thats pretty common |
| 03:59.34 | Arrowmaster | and another 17" crt in the other room that i havent bothered to try since last time it was used it was emiting a high pitched noise at certain resolutions, i think a capacitor is going bad in it |
| 03:59.57 | Aqua | sounds like it |
| 03:59.58 | Arrowmaster | Aqua: you dont have both of them directly in front of you side by side do you? |
| 04:00.07 | Aqua | I do |
| 04:00.12 | Aqua | one directly in front of me |
| 04:00.18 | Aqua | one to the left of that one |
| 04:00.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats fine |
| 04:00.39 | Aqua | titled at like a 15 degree angle |
| 04:01.27 | Arrowmaster | i had be using the one crt on the left side, but i think if i buy a new lcd and use my current lcd as a 2nd display i would put it on the right side |
| 04:02.05 | Aqua | my room setup doesn't permit one on the right hand side, the left side has some stuff running through the wall thats a little dangerous |
| 04:02.16 | Arrowmaster | my right eye is my dominate eye and also the one that needs slightly lower strengh glasses |
| 04:03.11 | Aqua | i might take a picture of this tommorrow and throw it up somewhere, get your viewpoint, right how i'm just freaking tired |
| 04:03.45 | Arrowmaster | i swear i used to be able to just glance left and read the crt before i got these new glasses a few years ago, now i have to turn my head because i cant focus through the edge of the glasses |
| 04:04.02 | Aqua | thats my problem now |
| 04:04.08 | Aqua | I have bifocals, and they play tricks on me |
| 04:04.42 | Arrowmaster | ive just got coke bottle glasses |
| 04:05.01 | Aqua | i got poly carbs for that reason |
| 04:05.31 | Arrowmaster | perty sure thats what i have |
| 04:06.17 | Aqua | later guys |
| 04:14.26 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/28110/ |
| 04:17.19 | Vonhinten | jesus christ, first time using linux since RedHat 5... I can't believe how many fucking directories and files are cluttering the filesystem on a default Ubuntu installation |
| 04:17.46 | kd3 | things have changed a lot since then |
| 04:18.20 | Arrowmaster | Vonhinten: compared to? |
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| 04:18.56 | Vonhinten | compared to? compared to 0 directories or files |
| 04:19.10 | Vonhinten | compared to Windows |
| 04:19.11 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody that had a redhat 5 server that broke 1300 days uptime a few years ago |
| 04:19.45 | Arrowmaster | Vonhinten: if you uninstall all the applications that come with ubuntu by default it will probably have a similar ammount as windows does |
| 04:20.11 | Arrowmaster | have you every looked inside the windows install directory, theres shit everywhere |
| 04:20.32 | Adys | if you're going for a distro that installs an entire desktop environment dont be surprised you actually *get stuff installed* |
| 04:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 04:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | nothing quite like ubuntu, that's for sure |
| 04:20.54 | Adys | go for gentoo if you want something empty and usable :P |
| 04:21.00 | Arrowmaster | debain |
| 04:21.02 | Vonhinten | At least it's out of the way... bin, boot, cdrom, dev, etc, home, lib, lost+found, media, mnt, opt, proc, root, blahblahblah holy shit, that's just the top level of the file system |
| 04:21.20 | Arrowmaster | thats standard stuff |
| 04:21.22 | Adys | half of this is standard unix/ext3 stuff |
| 04:21.25 | kd3 | ^ |
| 04:21.30 | Arrowmaster | try learning about the filesystem layout first |
| 04:21.33 | Vonhinten | I know it is |
| 04:21.45 | kd3 | <3 the LSB |
| 04:21.46 | Adys | so..? |
| 04:21.54 | Arrowmaster | lost+found is just there because you are using ext filesystem |
| 04:22.04 | Adys | theres just media/mnt/opt that aren't "standard" |
| 04:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | mnt is pretty standard, as it opt |
| 04:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | media is rather new |
| 04:23.07 | Arrowmaster | cdrom media mnt opt are all probably empty directories since 3 of them are just used as mount points |
| 04:23.52 | Arrowmaster | dev and proc dont really contain any files |
| 04:24.04 | Arrowmaster | they look like they do but they dont |
| 04:24.35 | kd3 | does ubuntu install stuff in to opt by default? |
| 04:25.07 | Arrowmaster | doubt it, should be an empty directory like it was for my debian install |
| 04:26.11 | Vonhinten | what's sbin? |
| 04:26.19 | ScytheBlade1 | system binaries |
| 04:26.24 | Arrowmaster | programs only usable by root |
| 04:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | root-only, generally |
| 04:26.32 | kd3 | typically used by root only |
| 04:26.47 | Vonhinten | there's a shit ton of apps in here by default... |
| 04:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 04:27.10 | Vonhinten | I feel like I just installed a DELL OEM disk... |
| 04:27.14 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 04:27.17 | kd3 | points to DSL |
| 04:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | then again |
| 04:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ubuntu IS a pretty terrible distro |
| 04:27.29 | kd3 | ^ |
| 04:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | but honestly, if the last time you used linux was RHEL5 |
| 04:27.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Things have changed |
| 04:27.56 | Vonhinten | well, I'm just dicking around with Virtual PC |
| 04:27.56 | kd3 | not even rhel5. rh5 |
| 04:28.08 | ScytheBlade1 | er, whoops, yeah that is what I meant |
| 04:28.30 | Arrowmaster | install debian without selecting anything other than basic enviroment when it asks you what sets of packages to install |
| 04:28.57 | kd3 | points again to DSL |
| 04:30.02 | Vonhinten | why does every page I see direct me to open a terminal and run sudo nano instead of a text editor in the desktop... |
| 04:30.14 | Arrowmaster | ponders putting one of the extra 500gb harddrives he has into his ps3 and installing linux |
| 04:30.18 | Arrowmaster | what page? |
| 04:30.28 | Vonhinten | oh just some page about fixing resolutions |
| 04:30.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Because unless you really, really, REALLY try |
| 04:30.53 | Arrowmaster | you cant fuck up with nano |
| 04:31.00 | ScytheBlade1 | You can't login as root and hence "open a text editor in the desktop" as root to edit the correct file |
| 04:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | "sudo kate" may work, but I really really really hate sudo |
| 04:31.24 | Arrowmaster | i love sudo |
| 04:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | it blurs the line between administrative commands/shells |
| 04:31.38 | ScytheBlade1 | death to sudo |
| 04:31.42 | Arrowmaster | although you really should be using sudoedit |
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| 04:32.34 | kd3 | grr |
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| 04:39.58 | kd3|hate`net | ok, finally |
| 04:45.59 | kd3 | ! |
| 04:46.03 | kd3 | att's filtering 4chan? |
| 04:46.05 | kd3 | ahahahaha |
| 04:49.46 | Arrowmaster | use opendns i bet it will work |
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| 04:50.40 | sacarasc | Apparently it doesn't. |
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| 04:52.53 | Arrowmaster | not working for me, 4chan's dns server probably died again |
| 04:52.59 | Arrowmaster | oh wait now its working |
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| 04:57.12 | Shirik | kd3, seriously? |
| 04:58.08 | Vonhinten | comcast filters one of ESPN's sites |
| 04:58.26 | Mr_Rabies | what on earth, why |
| 04:59.51 | Wobin | sudo make me a sandwich |
| 05:01.26 | Corrodias | AT&T is currently blocking the IP used by img.4chan.org. there are unverified reports that it's because of the DDoS situation (as in, the site has been the victim for a while now). no official information is available yet. you can watch this for updates: http://stormen.wordpress.com/2009/07/27/att-blocks-4chan/ |
| 05:03.02 | Mr_Rabies | i'm using ATT DSL and it works for me but you know |
| 05:03.04 | Vonhinten | where does grub keep its config file? |
| 05:03.22 | Mr_Rabies | ex-bellsouth user, we rarely get anything new at all not even stuff like this |
| 05:03.22 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 05:03.31 | Gnarfoz | Vonhinten: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 05:03.36 | Gnarfoz | (usually) |
| 05:03.42 | Corrodias | i'm using SBC DSL (owned by AT&T) and it's not. so yes, not all regions are blocking it right now, but without official word from AT&T, we can only speculate as to why. |
| 05:03.42 | Vonhinten | thanks |
| 05:03.58 | Gnarfoz | who cares, it's 4chan |
| 05:03.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 05:04.13 | Gnarfoz | you're not missing out on anything of positive or even neutral value |
| 05:04.18 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 05:04.46 | Mr_Rabies | yeah you know who cares about websites |
| 05:04.59 | Gnarfoz | not caring about that one. |
| 05:05.59 | Shirik | yeah so |
| 05:06.08 | Shirik | AT&T will have two significant problems on their hands |
| 05:06.18 | Shirik | (1) Anonymous (lol if you want) |
| 05:06.20 | Gnarfoz | /b/tards and....? |
| 05:06.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 05:06.26 | Shirik | (2) the net neutrality nutcases |
| 05:06.38 | Mr_Rabies | you know what would be cool |
| 05:06.48 | Corrodias | no kidding. i can see it being a "nice" move, trying to protect img.4chan.org from the DOS shit coming from AT&T customers while they sort out who's infected |
| 05:06.50 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* net neutrality has been outlawed here recently, I'm rather disillusioned |
| 05:06.59 | Mr_Rabies | if they blocked all their competition's websites too |
| 05:07.02 | Corrodias | but the TOTAL LACK OF COMMUNICATION is dooming the endeavor to looking like an attack |
| 05:07.06 | Shirik | ^ |
| 05:07.18 | Shirik | If they blocked it to help the site, I would think they would have said something |
| 05:07.23 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: you ordered another helping of sarcasm? |
| 05:07.39 | Shirik | 4chan has competition? |
| 05:07.45 | Shirik | why the fuck would you compete against something like that |
| 05:07.47 | Mr_Rabies | i meant at&t |
| 05:07.49 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: ...ATT's competition |
| 05:07.50 | Shirik | oh |
| 05:07.51 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:07.55 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 05:08.07 | Gnarfoz | probably leave the net neutrality stuff to the actual nutcases |
| 05:08.12 | Gnarfoz | there seem to be some around ;P |
| 05:08.48 | Mr_Rabies | it doesn't matter what the website is, an isp blocking a website arbitrarily with no reasoning or information is a terrible precedent to set |
| 05:08.59 | Gnarfoz | anyway, just wait until $your government decides it's a good idea to "protect the innocent" from the dangers of the internet and starts filtering it :p |
| 05:09.14 | Corrodias | yeah. it's the Internet. home of communication. trying to block part of it without any communication about why is just a recipe for hate. |
| 05:09.27 | Mr_Rabies | you'd see tor get a lot of use, in that case, Gnarfoz |
| 05:09.31 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: ahahaha |
| 05:09.39 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: no, you'd see public support, even |
| 05:10.04 | Gnarfoz | don't be so idealistic for once |
| 05:10.21 | Gnarfoz | they're doing it for 'the greater good', of course =D |
| 05:10.36 | Mr_Rabies | iran and china have a pretty decent tor userbase because of their governments' horrible practices |
| 05:10.54 | Gnarfoz | snorts |
| 05:11.13 | Gnarfoz | I guess you'll list Germany on that list, too, soon |
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| 05:12.06 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, you won't, since they're not (yet, obviously) using it to suppress political opinions ;) |
| 05:13.10 | Mr_Rabies | if they're using it to supress public opinion at all you'll see a rise in newly illegal activity underground |
| 05:13.59 | Gnarfoz | nah, you'll see shrugs all around, because politicians don't understand the internet :O |
| 05:14.20 | Gnarfoz | there's a reason they're called "Internetausdrucker" :D (people who print out the internet) |
| 05:14.39 | Mr_Rabies | i print out the whole internet just in case something like this happens |
| 05:14.46 | Mr_Rabies | once a month |
| 05:14.47 | Gnarfoz | including porn? |
| 05:14.48 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 05:14.56 | Mr_Rabies | especially porn |
| 05:15.02 | Mr_Rabies | triplicate, just in case |
| 05:15.10 | Gnarfoz | good call, imho |
| 05:15.23 | Mr_Rabies | seriously though what's germany planning |
| 05:15.52 | Gnarfoz | they're done planning, starting from August 1st, there's going to be a (wait for it) secret list of sites that ISPs will have to block |
| 05:15.56 | Mr_Rabies | an e-book burning this time |
| 05:16.16 | Gnarfoz | list administered by: the executive, without judicial oversight |
| 05:16.37 | Mr_Rabies | hey it worked with the last major economic depression didn't it |
| 05:16.44 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. BKA, which could be described as similar to the FBI~ for U.S. terms) |
| 05:16.46 | Corrodias | Gnarfoz: Australia? |
| 05:16.53 | Gnarfoz | Corrodias: Germany |
| 05:17.02 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: huh? ;\ |
| 05:17.08 | Corrodias | oh... yeah... the ones who don't even allow blood. i think the aussies are planning something similar, though. |
| 05:17.13 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: And how do they expect this list to remain secret? |
| 05:17.22 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: I have no idea. superstition maybe |
| 05:17.39 | Arrowmaster | maybe they will use that new ibm patent |
| 05:17.45 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: the ISPs of course are bound by the law that enables this, but hey |
| 05:17.50 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: haha, good call |
| 05:18.06 | Corrodias | people can figure out what sites are blocked and compile a list, i think is what he means. |
| 05:18.16 | Gnarfoz | sigh, and it's DNS blocks, so it won't work at all anyway :X |
| 05:18.29 | Shirik | well sure, Gnarfoz, but yeah what Corrodias said |
| 05:18.45 | Arrowmaster | they have to give the list to the isps |
| 05:18.48 | Gnarfoz | I don't doubt the actual list is going to leak rather sooner than later |
| 05:18.52 | Mr_Rabies | Gnarfoz, talkin about a small period of time during 1929 and the 1940s |
| 05:19.01 | Arrowmaster | and you saw what happened in when austrialla tried that |
| 05:19.05 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: they had the internet then? amazing news! :D |
| 05:19.15 | Mr_Rabies | where all kinds of exciting legislation happened for the greater good |
| 05:19.25 | ajmitch | Gnarfoz: NZ is planning something similar, though I think it's based on routing rather than DNS |
| 05:20.03 | Gnarfoz | the best part: they sold it via the child pornography route, i.e. it's supposed to be for blocking access to CP |
| 05:20.17 | ajmitch | every government uses that reason now |
| 05:20.27 | Corrodias | of course |
| 05:20.31 | Gnarfoz | so of course the only opposition they got was from people who knew it won't deter anyone with a motive |
| 05:20.43 | Corrodias | because it's one of those things where saying anything against it gets you labelled a rapist |
| 05:21.07 | Arrowmaster | most the domains on the aussi list werent even registered anymore, i checked, by doing domain whoises |
| 05:21.09 | Gnarfoz | also, it was easily proven that notifying hosters of CP sites resulted in them taking down the pages in under 12 hours~ |
| 05:21.22 | Gnarfoz | Corrodias: cheap, yet sadly, effective |
| 05:21.48 | Corrodias | we're using this to block NAZI sites. you are okay with that, right, because you're not a NAZI are you? |
| 05:21.59 | Gnarfoz | Corrodias: idd |
| 05:22.06 | Corrodias | or take it back to the 50's USA. it's okay because you're not a communist, right? |
| 05:22.17 | Gnarfoz | moreover, they claimed that "this is effective in other countries, such as Finland", when actually the finnish police said their filtering was rather ineffective |
| 05:22.37 | Mr_Rabies | that reasoning seems to be pretty popular nowadays Corrodias |
| 05:22.52 | Mr_Rabies | worldwide :( |
| 05:22.59 | Gnarfoz | also, the Finnish list was leaked, analysis showed that 75% of sites on the list were either unreachable, contained no images at all or gay porn or something other not CP related |
| 05:23.25 | Gnarfoz | such evidence is ignore of course^^ |
| 05:23.38 | Mr_Rabies | you don't want to be considered a terrist sympathizer do you? well if you're not a TERRORIST, you should wholeheartedly support the patriot act if you're not a terrorist but are a PATRIOT |
| 05:23.39 | Corrodias | good job, finland. wlel, i guess somebody had to prove that it wouldn't work. but it doesn't help much if it's ignored. |
| 05:24.25 | Gnarfoz | repeat your statements ad nauseam, however wrong they may be, and people will believe you |
| 05:24.25 | Mr_Rabies | OH NO |
| 05:24.25 | Mr_Rabies | THERE IT GOES |
| 05:24.25 | Corrodias | it's a political stockholm syndrome |
| 05:24.25 | Mr_Rabies | THE FIRST VICTIMS IN THE INTERNET BLACKOUT OF 2009 |
| 05:24.25 | Shirik | stabs Mr_Rabies |
| 05:24.25 | Gnarfoz | att filtered them |
| 05:24.25 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 05:24.25 | Corrodias | lol rabies |
| 05:24.30 | Mr_Rabies | chanserv noooooooooo |
| 05:24.30 | Gnarfoz | filtered into oblivion |
| 05:24.36 | Shirik | ChanServ was very detrimental to society |
| 05:24.38 | Shirik | needed to be filtered |
| 05:24.46 | Mr_Rabies | slaps Shirik around a bit with Saudi Arabia |
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| 05:29.10 | Mr_Rabies | either way this orwellian stuff is scary and it's a shame it's actually happening |
| 05:30.14 | Corrodias | hopefully the US ISP's don't get into that. i'm hoping AT&T is just temporarily giving the server a break from its attackers and is intending to follow up by suspending accounts and removing the block, etc. |
| 05:30.20 | Corrodias | can i be optimistic? |
| 05:30.39 | Corrodias | oh, and "has absolutely no idea how to communicate effectively with their customers" |
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| 05:32.04 | Mr_Rabies | you don't know at&t well apparently :( |
| 05:32.45 | Mr_Rabies | at&t has received the "most likely to turn into an evil corporation in a movie featuring bill paxton" award for like 100 years straight |
| 05:32.49 | Arrowmaster | what attackers |
| 05:32.55 | Arrowmaster | theres no evidence there are any attackers |
| 05:33.12 | Mr_Rabies | anontalk is ddosing 4chan pretty much consistently |
| 05:33.27 | Corrodias | img.4chan.org has had trouble for a while now. if it's not ddos, it's strangely cycling low bandwidth. |
| 05:33.35 | Corrodias | cyclical |
| 05:33.41 | Mr_Rabies | and there's still people spamming who were morons and renamed .jpgs with malicious code embedded into .js and .bat |
| 05:33.48 | Thunder_Child | mikma, it's not my fault you wanted icons |
| 05:33.54 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i never use histograms |
| 05:34.03 | Thunder_Child | well rarely anyway |
| 05:37.00 | Shirik | really? |
| 05:37.03 | Shirik | so helpful.. |
| 05:37.14 | Thunder_Child | i dont like to edit my pictures |
| 05:37.49 | Kraps | You: hi |
| 05:37.50 | Kraps | Stranger: im on a boat |
| 05:37.53 | Kraps | Stranger: everybody look at me cause im sailing on a boat |
| 05:37.55 | Kraps | Stranger: im on a boat mother fucker |
| 05:37.57 | Kraps | Your conversational partner has disconnected. |
| 05:38.12 | Thunder_Child | that really isnt a conversation per se |
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| 05:44.19 | Thunder_Child | again, wjay freaking number is "You hereby have been approved a sum of £1,000,000,00.GBP" |
| 05:44.25 | Thunder_Child | what* |
| 05:48.58 | Gnarfoz | one million + dyscalculus |
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| 06:09.57 | Adys | whoever says he hasn't done that before is a liar |
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| 12:03.07 | Arrowmaster | hmmm i need a windows xp pro WGA crack now..... |
| 12:03.31 | Arrowmaster | they finally figured out id been using an xp pro corp vlk from somewhere like china |
| 12:03.59 | Arrowmaster | says its 'not valid for this region' |
| 12:07.00 | Fisker | owned |
| 12:07.08 | Arrowmaster | hook me up Fisker |
| 12:07.27 | Fisker | Install Windows 7 |
| 12:07.52 | Fisker | Doesn't look like i still have my stuff |
| 12:07.53 | Arrowmaster | that or anybody have another valid pro corp vlk key? i learned a long time ago it wont let you reset the key and input a normal pro one |
| 12:08.21 | Fisker | or wait |
| 12:08.28 | Fisker | they may actually not have fixed their intranet yet :P |
| 12:08.49 | Fisker | lulz |
| 12:08.51 | Fisker | they haven't |
| 12:13.13 | sylvanaar | the WGA thing got so annoying I finally paid for all my copies |
| 12:13.22 | sylvanaar | or installed windows 2000 |
| 12:13.38 | sylvanaar | win2k is great for VMs |
| 12:13.58 | Arrowmaster | the two other computers in this house with xp have valid pro keys i got from msdnaa |
| 12:14.28 | Arrowmaster | but like i said, i cant even switch this system over to a normal pro key since its permently locked to a corp vlk key |
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| 12:20.48 | Fisker | i bought Windows 7 :3 |
| 12:21.31 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf is this unholy hour known as 6:00 AM |
| 12:21.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It is strange and agitating |
| 12:27.14 | sylvanaar | i bought it also |
| 12:27.25 | sylvanaar | i love it - though, i like vista |
| 12:28.40 | Arrowmaster | thanks Fisker, one of those worked it seems, i havent rebooted but it gave me my wallpaper back and the tray icon is gone |
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| 12:28.55 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster you can change the key (usually) - the VLK keys are not normally locked. |
| 12:29.30 | sylvanaar | you can run WGA let it fail, then enter your real key |
| 12:29.43 | Arrowmaster | i just tested with a key i copied off of a computer at school, xp key on the sticker but vista installed so i copied the xp key, i couldnt use it |
| 12:30.22 | sylvanaar | well, when you upgrade xp to vista the key is invalidated |
| 12:30.32 | sylvanaar | or at least the liscense is |
| 12:30.48 | Arrowmaster | all the computers in that lab run the new vista corp shit |
| 12:31.07 | sylvanaar | i hate entering in those keys |
| 12:31.50 | sylvanaar | to convert a VLK install - you need to run WGA, and it will convert your VLK (if its invalid) |
| 12:32.20 | sylvanaar | if you used one of the pre-sp2 warez keys |
| 12:32.32 | sylvanaar | if the vlk is valid - then idk |
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| 12:33.27 | sylvanaar | id just install win7 |
| 12:33.28 | Arrowmaster | they shutdown update.microsoft.com for all warezd vlk keys a long time ago, you could only get updates with the automatic updater, mine never died |
| 12:33.42 | sylvanaar | did they |
| 12:33.51 | sylvanaar | just install win7 |
| 12:33.54 | sylvanaar | its free |
| 12:33.58 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:34.01 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 12:34.06 | Arrowmaster | i have 1 gig of ram im not fucking installing win7 |
| 12:34.19 | sylvanaar | you can run it with 1gig |
| 12:34.29 | Arrowmaster | im not going to |
| 12:35.13 | sylvanaar | there is some utility that will change your key also - i used it once |
| 12:35.40 | Arrowmaster | or you can just use this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328874 |
| 12:35.54 | Arrowmaster | change one registry key then run a command |
| 12:36.07 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 12:37.03 | sylvanaar | sounds like you got is solved then |
| 12:37.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah running another vlk key with full access now |
| 12:37.56 | Arrowmaster | i think, should be 100% sure next time i reboot |
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| 13:19.45 | Lopeppeppy | has no brain, just swishy cheese! |
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| 13:30.35 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:31.02 | Lopeppeppy | This is entertainment? |
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| 13:35.30 | sylvanaar | I ask the same question while playing wow |
| 13:36.01 | Lopeppeppy | cynic |
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| 13:39.33 | Elkano | sylvanaar, ping? |
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| 14:04.53 | Fisker | omg |
| 14:05.01 | Fisker | someone finally made a patch to run Diablo 2 in a higher resolution |
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| 14:06.25 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent! Get them to work on Dungeon Keeper! |
| 14:12.28 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/OhSnap/ xD |
| 14:13.08 | Spellbinder | fisker linkage? |
| 14:13.48 | sylvanaar | Elkano pong |
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| 14:14.12 | Elkano | sylvanaar, did you see my forum post wrt LibWho's table access |
| 14:14.29 | sylvanaar | no |
| 14:15.02 | sylvanaar | where did you post it |
| 14:15.32 | Elkano | LibWho thread |
| 14:15.58 | Elkano | http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=282805&postcount=27 |
| 14:16.22 | mikma | libwhat? |
| 14:16.39 | sylvanaar | libwhy? |
| 14:18.14 | sylvanaar | Elkano the second part about the caching? |
| 14:18.25 | Elkano | yeah |
| 14:18.55 | sylvanaar | ah yeah, it needs to be cleaned up end-to-end |
| 14:20.25 | Spellbinder | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:20.30 | Spellbinder | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:20.46 | sylvanaar | im still trying to come up with a better scheduling algorithm - which wont get overloaded by something like census+ |
| 14:22.15 | sylvanaar | im not sure how many times the table accesses you are talking about really occur (in terms of # of executions), let me look at it real quick |
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| 14:30.42 | Elkano | yeah, GYP can also overload I think |
| 14:32.09 | sylvanaar | GYP? |
| 14:34.19 | Elkano | Gnomisch Yellow Pages |
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| 14:41.03 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 14:41.22 | Aqua | gotta love allt he netsplits |
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| 14:41.28 | sylvanaar | im adding some locals now Elkano, thanks for the suggestion |
| 14:42.02 | Elkano | yeah, there have been like 4 table calls each line... all the same ^^ |
| 14:42.33 | Kraps | morning azerothians |
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| 14:43.14 | sylvanaar | elkano: yeah, sometimes i just dont like to change working code - even suboptimal code - but you're right |
| 14:44.25 | Elkano | well, at least it wasn't an OnUpdate ^^ |
| 14:44.45 | foxlit | "table calls" are suspicious. |
| 14:45.27 | Lopeppeppy | Is that like drunk dialing? *laugh* |
| 14:46.44 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 14:46.51 | sylvanaar | drunk facebooking |
| 14:47.03 | sylvanaar | i did that on friday |
| 14:47.24 | Kraps | i have 84 EoHs |
| 14:47.26 | Aqua | anyone know how to delete an account on freeforums? |
| 14:47.31 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.37 | Aqua | i get like 100 emails a day fromt hat stupid website |
| 14:47.40 | Aqua | and its pissing me off |
| 14:48.15 | Kraps | http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7519/worldofwarcraftcataclys.jpg |
| 14:48.38 | Ackis | drunk dials Lopeppeppy |
| 14:48.56 | Shirik | I read that as "world of warcraft cat Adys" |
| 14:49.08 | Lopeppeppy | Kitty! |
| 14:49.09 | Adys | what wat |
| 14:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | I plays that! |
| 14:49.12 | Ackis | world of warCAT |
| 14:49.13 | Aqua | anyone? |
| 14:49.22 | foxlit | Warcats, Go! |
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| 14:54.56 | Wobin | Fisker: Hasn't that higher res D2 patch been out for ages? |
| 14:55.26 | Adys | How do you call someone who makes others feel better? eg. someone extremely zen, extremely quiet, so on |
| 14:55.27 | Wobin | http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16131 |
| 14:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Comforting, comfortable, relaxed, nice to be around... |
| 14:56.38 | Adys | theres a single specific word for it |
| 14:56.54 | Adys | relaxed is more self-centered |
| 14:57.02 | Lopeppeppy | If you say so. |
| 14:57.18 | Adys | its comfortable but much more powerful; like someone who spreads an aura of zen |
| 14:57.37 | Wobin | calming? |
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| 14:59.19 | Adys | the sentence is "How could such a harmless, <???> guy be a criminal?" |
| 14:59.43 | Wobin | "He always was a quiet chap" =P |
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| 15:01.36 | Adys | hmm |
| 15:01.36 | Adys | it was angelic I think |
| 15:01.36 | Adys | but that doesnt really fit for a guy |
| 15:01.36 | Wobin | compassionate? |
| 15:01.59 | Adys | maybe yeah |
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| 15:02.30 | krka | hoopy frood? |
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| 15:10.14 | krka | harmonious? peaceful? serene? |
| 15:11.32 | Wobin | aha serene |
| 15:11.52 | Wobin | although hoopy frood does have a lot more meaning =) |
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| 16:15.39 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:15.50 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:16.06 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. How many sleeps until Blizcon? |
| 16:16.21 | Lunessa | drops a large thermonuclear device on Fisker from orbit. It's the only way to be /sure/. |
| 16:17.03 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Depends on wether or not I actually sleep. But I leave August 15 for my colossal road-trip. |
| 16:17.52 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent! I'll lay out a few sacrifices to the gods to keep your trip in order. |
| 16:18.02 | Lunessa | Thank you. |
| 16:25.27 | Lunessa | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6727710.ece |
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| 16:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh... kay. I want some of what he's having. |
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| 16:28.43 | Ackis | hahah screw you ladies! I'm an ugly mofo and imma gonna breed like a rabbit |
| 16:28.46 | Ackis | babies... 500 of em! |
| 16:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | Is Chantal on-board with this little project of yours, dear? |
| 16:30.20 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
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| 16:30.50 | Lopeppeppy | Kinky, in this context |
| 16:31.12 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: what she doesn't know won't hurt her! :D |
| 16:31.19 | Ackis | makes a comment about a clown car. |
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| 16:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | Sure can hurt you though, boyo. |
| 16:33.05 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:33.25 | Ackis | we have 4 pets, I don't know what I'm going to do once we have kids |
| 16:33.27 | Fisker | i hate you Ackis |
| 16:33.59 | Ackis | not more than I hate you Fisker |
| 16:34.06 | Fisker | oh yeah? |
| 16:34.10 | Ackis | yeah! |
| 16:34.13 | Ackis | so take that! |
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| 16:34.59 | Fisker | i'm banging your mom |
| 16:35.18 | Fisker | oh wait that only supports you hating me more than i'm hating you |
| 16:35.19 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:35.55 | Ackis | exactly |
| 16:35.56 | Ackis | bitch |
| 16:37.55 | Lunessa | Fisker: Long distance relationship over the internet with an older (presumably married woman)? No one can hate you for that, just pity you. |
| 16:37.56 | Lopeppeppy | I feel like I should break into song from The Lion King or something. |
| 16:38.23 | Ackis | Lunessa: plus you haven't seen what my mom looks like |
| 16:38.29 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: can you feel the love tonight? |
| 16:38.49 | Lunessa | Ackis - I didn't want to go there. I don't know your mom and didn't want to cast aspersions. |
| 16:39.12 | Ackis | Lunessa: she's 62 |
| 16:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | No asparagus shall be cast in this channel!! |
| 16:39.47 | Lopeppeppy | The Great Peppy has spokened. |
| 16:39.51 | Lunessa | Ackis: See, this make's Fisker's "banging" even less hate-worthy and more pity-worthy. |
| 16:40.12 | Ackis | Lunessa: why pity me? |
| 16:40.22 | Lunessa | Not you, Fisker. |
| 16:40.33 | Ackis | ah |
| 16:40.39 | Fisker | rages |
| 16:40.41 | Ackis | well, at least he's getting some |
| 16:40.50 | Lunessa | ... point. |
| 16:41.17 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.59 | Lunessa | Anyone noticing a generally sluggish response time from all things internet? |
| 16:42.18 | Ackis | nope |
| 16:42.18 | Lopeppeppy | My internets have sucked today, Lunessa, but I assumed it was a brownout kinda thing. |
| 16:42.23 | Legorol | Is there a way, using the default UI only, to make the text in the Objectives tracking frame be left aligned? |
| 16:42.43 | Legorol | I want to position the Objectives frame on the left of my screen, but the contents is right-aligned to its edge which makes it a bit unwieldy |
| 16:42.46 | foxlit | If it's not in the UI options, it can't be done. |
| 16:43.06 | Legorol | meh, i guess addon time then |
| 16:43.20 | Lunessa | Legorol: You could script it. I use one to resize the thing. |
| 16:43.37 | Ackis | Lunessa: was just going to suggest that, aka the pitchlimit thing back in the day |
| 16:43.37 | Legorol | nice, resize statically or dynamically? |
| 16:43.56 | Legorol | Lunessa: woudl you mind pasting your script? |
| 16:43.58 | Lunessa | Legorol: Statically. I make the default frame size larger. |
| 16:44.04 | Aelobin | is the wsg achievement called "Not So Fast" bugged? |
| 16:44.12 | Lunessa | Um... It's on my hoe machine and I'm at work. |
| 16:44.16 | Legorol | Lunessa: ah right, i just do that by dragging with the mouse |
| 16:44.19 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 16:44.26 | Lunessa | A browse of the UI & Macros forum will find it for you though. |
| 16:44.31 | Legorol | ok |
| 16:44.42 | Legorol | does it do anything more than what i can achieve by just dragging the frame's corner around with the mouse? |
| 16:45.10 | Lunessa | Not really, save that I don't have to monkey with unlocking it first. |
| 16:45.20 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: how do you make a random mount macro? :P |
| 16:45.42 | Lunessa | But you could change the default alignment for the frame in much the same way I suspect. |
| 16:47.23 | Lunessa | Also, I cobbled it together while the watchframe was still in development and I don't recall it being resizable when I did that. *shrug* YMMV |
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| 16:48.55 | nicoli_s | why are random mount/pet macros so important that like everyone wants to make one? |
| 16:49.36 | Lunessa | Because when you have a zillion of the things you want to show them off? |
| 16:50.24 | Legorol | what is YMMV? i'm intrigued |
| 16:50.41 | Lunessa | Your milage may vary |
| 16:50.52 | Legorol | haha |
| 16:50.59 | SuM_WuN | for me I just tired of seeing the same mount time after time. right now Im using an addon called Livestock to handle random mount/pets |
| 16:51.29 | Legorol | ok, this is scary.. the past few ad banners on the WoW forums were all about things that I have recently googled/checked out a few webpages about, on a wide range of random topics |
| 16:51.39 | Legorol | one was about hotels, another about glasses etc., coincidence? |
| 16:51.43 | Legorol | or big brother watching me |
| 16:51.43 | foxlit | no. |
| 16:51.50 | Legorol | damn tracking cookies |
| 16:51.51 | foxlit | google knows what goes on inside your mind. |
| 16:52.11 | foxlit | It's not that they track you, it's that they simulate you in their giant datacenters. |
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| 16:52.38 | Lopeppeppy | Are you *really* sure you saw those ads **after** you did those things? Not before? hmmm? |
| 16:55.33 | Lunessa | foxlit: They have a billion virtual people in their data centers, making trillions of choices - so those virtual slaves will rise up and conquer the world and make it safe for penis enlargement services the world over. |
| 16:58.02 | Ackis | Legorol: odd, I see banner ads for penis enlargement |
| 16:58.29 | kaiden | ackis, it's telling you that you need something! |
| 16:58.30 | kaiden | :) |
| 16:58.43 | kaiden | dont trust it.. those pills dont work... i know! |
| 16:58.50 | Ackis | ~lart kaiden |
| 16:58.50 | purl | urinates on kaiden |
| 16:58.53 | Ackis | hahah |
| 16:58.55 | Ackis | get pissed on |
| 16:59.09 | kaiden | kinky |
| 16:59.39 | cog|work | ~lart Fisker's mom |
| 16:59.39 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Fisker's mom's throat until Fisker's mom puts on 150lbs |
| 16:59.42 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't know it wasn't safe for the devices. Poor thing. |
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| 17:09.45 | Bruners | awesome tooltip addon? |
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| 17:11.25 | Lunessa | I'm fond of Seerah's TipTop, though TipTac is nice, and then the swiss army knife that is CowTip is pretty popular too. |
| 17:13.03 | Kraps | is the hateful strikes tank supposed to be in front of patch? |
| 17:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | TipTop! LitheToolTipDoctor! |
| 17:13.41 | Slafsinator | Kraps: he's supposed to be in melee range, that's it |
| 17:13.52 | Kraps | :( |
| 17:13.58 | Kraps | i got parried |
| 17:16.26 | durcyn | Bruners: I still like StarTip, ymmv though |
| 17:17.26 | Bruners | tiptac trows errors at me sometimes so i figured i should test something else |
| 17:17.44 | Lunessa | Doing patchwerk as melee DPS is 'teh suq'. |
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| 17:35.51 | duaiwe | doing patchwerk as anyone is kinda boring |
| 17:37.24 | Slafsinator | I remember when patchwerk was the highlight of the weak |
| 17:37.35 | Slafsinator | the ultimate dps showdown. |
| 17:38.13 | Jerodar | Uhm hi all, nooby addon dev here, starting on my first addon. And got an nooby question :P |
| 17:38.26 | Jerodar | I can't find anything in the api on how to get another players talents |
| 17:38.26 | Cairenn | ask away :) |
| 17:38.41 | Jerodar | the inspect section is kinda short : / |
| 17:39.26 | cog|work | inspecting is the only way the client gets that information |
| 17:40.04 | Jerodar | yeah figured as much, but the closest I can get to talent info is NotifyInspect("unit") and I don't have a clue were the inspect data is stored then |
| 17:40.19 | Jerodar | other then that, there are only api calls for honor etc |
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| 17:41.43 | cog|work | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/NotifyInspect tells you what to do. |
| 17:42.16 | Jerodar | wow nice site, thanks :D |
| 17:42.26 | Jerodar | was working of wowwiki, which is abit limited |
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| 17:45.57 | Lopeppeppy | I did it. I did the thing with the things! |
| 17:46.03 | Lunessa | Excellent. |
| 17:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | I learned a new trick, with a headache, from my boss who called me from the friggin' golf course to tell me what to do. Sorta. |
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| 17:51.29 | Lunessa | ... He's playing golf, and you get to work. oh joy. |
| 17:52.47 | Lopeppeppy | "It's in that shared network folder!" ...."which one?" |
| 17:54.15 | Lunessa | hate that |
| 17:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | And since he's not at a computer, I read them off to him until I get to the right one, repeat... blah. |
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| 17:59.00 | Adys | I'm going to murder squid |
| 17:59.00 | Lunessa | And he's trying to get par. |
| 17:59.26 | Cairenn | hands adys some bait and a jigger |
| 17:59.37 | Adys | I AM GOING TO MURDER SQUID |
| 17:59.39 | Adys | HARD. |
| 17:59.47 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 17:59.59 | Lunessa | ... |
| 18:00.21 | Adys | seriously |
| 18:00.50 | kd3 | aren't caches fun? |
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| 18:01.00 | Cairenn | if you're going to "murder" squid, that's the way to do it, Adys |
| 18:01.20 | Cairenn | although most people call it fishing |
| 18:01.26 | Adys | insane shit |
| 18:01.30 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/downtime.png |
| 18:01.32 | Cairenn | hey now! |
| 18:01.36 | Adys | about 20 sec of downtime |
| 18:01.53 | Adys | squid thought it was a GREAT IDEA to cache some http500 |
| 18:02.13 | Cairenn | gives up on trying to make Adys chuckle and just lets him vent |
| 18:02.26 | Adys | hey I was chuckling |
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| 18:02.29 | Adys | WHILE murdering squid |
| 18:02.34 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:02.35 | Lopeppeppy | I like calamari |
| 18:02.39 | Cairenn | rubs Adys's shoulders |
| 18:02.53 | Adys | murder's Squid's shoulders |
| 18:02.59 | Adys | did I mention squid yet |
| 18:03.27 | sacarasc | You said something about loving squid, yes. |
| 18:05.45 | Lunessa | Everything here at work is dragging - it's like the tubes are all clogged. |
| 18:06.57 | kd3 | let's blame 4chan |
| 18:07.14 | kd3 | at&t's going to be feeling the flack from that one for a while now, I bet |
| 18:07.20 | Lunessa | Why not, they're usually a good target. :P |
| 18:07.48 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/funny-pictures-bear-pummels-an-imposter.jpg |
| 18:08.25 | jnwhiteh | Who here had HoN invites left? |
| 18:08.38 | Ackis | me |
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| 18:11.03 | Ackis | lol http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/fail-owned-cake-print-fail.jpg?w=500&h=332 |
| 18:11.39 | Adys | jnwhiteh: want one? |
| 18:11.49 | jnwhiteh | Adys: all taken care of |
| 18:11.53 | Adys | oki |
| 18:12.01 | jnwhiteh | I have mya ccount, just needed to get one sent off to another addon author. |
| 18:12.53 | Adys | could people go on the mmoc frontpage, hover some tooltips, click some links and confirm everything works? |
| 18:13.07 | Adys | Im still getting spammed by postfix but i suspect its just a bunch of mails that got stuck in the queue |
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| 18:14.17 | Thunder_Child | Adys, i cant get through to db.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 18:14.25 | Adys | its slow, thats normal |
| 18:14.37 | Adys | I just need confirmation you dont get Server Error (500) |
| 18:14.45 | Thunder_Child | well it's killing www.mmo-champion.com as well |
| 18:14.54 | Adys | whut |
| 18:15.11 | Thunder_Child | it loads stuff from db |
| 18:15.19 | Thunder_Child | so it's a long load time |
| 18:15.38 | Adys | its supposed to load them at the end of the page |
| 18:15.49 | Thunder_Child | it does |
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| 18:26.44 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 18:26.46 | Ackis | hi |
| 18:26.50 | Ackis | you know what Fisker |
| 18:30.02 | Aelobin_ | what would you say an acceptable tip is for a BS making titansteel destroyer? :P |
| 18:30.41 | Pneu^ | 5g |
| 18:31.25 | Dagmar | 10% of the mats cost |
| 18:31.49 | Aelobin_ | O_o |
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| 18:32.14 | Dagmar | An offer of 5g for something like that is an invitation to be /ignored |
| 18:32.44 | Pneu^ | everl level 450 BS can make it, its not like its rare |
| 18:33.37 | Dagmar | Then get yourself to 450 in blacksmithing. |
| 18:34.21 | Dagmar | If someone can't afford 10% of the materials cost at freaking 80 and geared to where that weapon wouldn't be better than everything they have they're either: |
| 18:34.24 | Dagmar | a) lying |
| 18:34.26 | Dagmar | b) retarded |
| 18:34.29 | Dagmar | c) bought on ebay |
| 18:34.36 | Pneu^ | 10% of the materials cost is like... 7g |
| 18:34.37 | Pneu^ | so |
| 18:34.43 | Lopeppeppy | Or got the mats from the guild bank and dont' know what they're worth. |
| 18:34.51 | Pneu^ | if you wanna qq over 2g then you pretty much fail |
| 18:34.54 | Arrowmaster | http://www.flynnlives.com/media/video/0xendgame.aspx |
| 18:34.54 | Ackis | or is named Fisker! |
| 18:35.03 | Dagmar | I have a serious problem believeing that thing is only 70g in materials |
| 18:35.03 | Arrowmaster | so yeah, gota see that on opening day at the imax |
| 18:35.25 | Pneu^ | materials are free if you farm them yourself, dont you know |
| 18:35.29 | Dagmar | No they're not. |
| 18:35.35 | Dagmar | Materials are only free if you're an idiot. |
| 18:35.49 | Dagmar | Two frozen orbs already push that over 70g |
| 18:36.02 | Pneu^ | frozen orbs are free |
| 18:36.11 | Dagmar | Frozen orbs are not free, nor are they valueless. Someone could sell them on the AH and make 140g easily on 90% of the servers out there. |
| 18:36.25 | Aelobin_ | i guess to clarify, he's not talking about 10% of how much they cost you, more 10% of the _value_ they're worth |
| 18:36.31 | Dagmar | Otherwise, just start sending me all your valueless dungeon drop loot and I'll make sure it gets a good home |
| 18:36.44 | Dagmar | I'll pay you 45c per item to cover the mail costs |
| 18:37.24 | Dagmar | The Mekgineer's Chopper that I drive that Leatherworking paid for says I know what I'm talking about. |
| 18:38.15 | Dagmar | It is insanity to consider farmed materials free. |
| 18:38.28 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: first time I've heard about that... wow |
| 18:39.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, interesting article! http://www.paulgraham.com/makersschedule.html |
| 18:39.29 | Aqua | sigh.... why do people on windows insist on using IRC with a white background, and then using black color codes... |
| 18:39.55 | Dagmar | Pneu^: ...and while you might think I'm an ass for being a stickler about what I consider to be a mere 10%, you'll also never find me charging more than 200% of materials costs to anyone for any crafted anything. Generally I sell _way_ cheaper than everyone else (50-75% over mats cost) |
| 18:40.21 | Pneu^ | if you never charge more than 200% you can't have a char that's a scribe |
| 18:40.23 | Dagmar | Aqua: because we didn't kill Khaled when we had the chnace |
| 18:40.32 | Lopeppeppy | I never tip precisely, so that 7g tip would have become 10 for me. |
| 18:40.34 | Pneu^ | or your glyphs are stupidly low priced :) |
| 18:40.52 | Dagmar | Pneu^: I don't. Of course I've probably sold 300-400 sets of purples by now, too |
| 18:41.04 | Dagmar | ...and I don't farm anything |
| 18:41.12 | Aqua | Dagmar: i'm on this channel with an eggdrop bot that does RSS feeds, and they label all the content with black headers, so i can't see anything, its annoying |
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| 18:41.31 | Dagmar | Aqua: Your client won't filter out k0,0 for you? |
| 18:41.53 | Aqua | this one won't for some damn'ed odd reason |
| 18:42.24 | Dagmar | Ah... I can't remember where exactly, but the colors in mIRC probably are still based on a palette. You can refine what it thinks of as black to be a dark grey in there somewhere |
| 18:42.27 | Dagmar | It should fix the problem |
| 18:42.55 | Dagmar | ..but I still think we should have killed Khaled before 2000 |
| 18:42.57 | Arrowmaster | then you have to change your background color to something else though |
| 18:43.24 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: If I'm not mistaken he was carping because his background _is_ black |
| 18:43.25 | Aqua | i only have this problem when i use this pc, because i can't control what software is installed |
| 18:43.36 | Arrowmaster | or give it all all back image to use as the background |
| 18:43.54 | Arrowmaster | give it an all black image |
| 18:44.02 | Lunessa | *cough* uses a white background. |
| 18:44.05 | Dagmar | BitchX just filters out all those cracked out mIRC color codes |
| 18:44.24 | Aqua | i'm on this pc, and the software is controled, so i'm forced into mIRC |
| 18:44.25 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yes, an all-black background and black text work great |
| 18:44.43 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 18:45.11 | Arrowmaster | but i was saying if you redefine what the black is for black text it will probably also redefine the black for the background |
| 18:45.35 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 18:45.46 | Dagmar | Not unless he's changed the way it works since I last used it |
| 18:46.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont even see where you can edit the colors |
| 18:46.36 | Dagmar | People used to pull nonsense in #Rave with it all the time (sekret messages calling people wankers) |
| 18:46.41 | Aqua | in mIRC its view, colors |
| 18:47.18 | Ackis | Dagmar: you wanker |
| 18:47.56 | Dagmar | I still think it's lead int he drinking water that's the reason he didn't just do the sane thing and implement a subset of ANSI colors |
| 18:48.14 | Dagmar | ...being that every _other_ IRC client at the time had no problem with them |
| 18:50.36 | Kraps | anyone dc in wow now? half my raid went |
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| 18:51.56 | Thunder_Child | cuse you were there Kraps |
| 18:52.17 | Dagmar | You didn't DC until he mentioned it, I take it? |
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| 18:57.25 | Lunessa | brother! |
| 18:57.37 | malreth | RAWR |
| 18:57.44 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:57.55 | malreth | huggles Gryphon |
| 18:57.59 | Gryphon | huggles malreth |
| 18:58.52 | malreth | "This gives rise to an argument: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the opposite. The answer is that one would like to be both, but since it is difficult to combine the two it is much safer to be feared than loved" |
| 18:59.12 | malreth | huggles Gryphon with a mallet |
| 18:59.16 | Gryphon | huggles malreth with a mallet |
| 18:59.26 | malreth | eek! |
| 18:59.26 | alestane | *snark* |
| 18:59.43 | alestane | ...you asked for that one, sorry. |
| 19:00.14 | Lunessa | malreth - Let them hate, so long as they fear. |
| 19:00.24 | malreth | good news... Mrs. Malreth has a new car. |
| 19:00.35 | Lunessa | No more old SUV? |
| 19:00.35 | Lopeppeppy | Blue!! |
| 19:00.42 | malreth | fucking blue |
| 19:00.47 | alestane | That sounds suspiciously like Nick Machiavelli. |
| 19:01.37 | malreth | no more SUV. the Isuzu Rodeo is going off to the Chao forest to be with its Chao friends |
| 19:01.46 | malreth | and also to have a hold drilled into its engine block |
| 19:01.48 | Lunessa | alestane: mine was "Oderint Dum Metuant" - Lucius Accius |
| 19:02.06 | Lunessa | malreth: Excellent. What did she get? |
| 19:02.17 | malreth | 2010 Mazda3 hatchback |
| 19:02.36 | Lunessa | Nice. |
| 19:05.28 | malreth | the car smiles |
| 19:05.30 | malreth | http://twitpic.com/bty49 |
| 19:06.58 | Lopeppeppy | Frellin' creepy |
| 19:07.08 | Lopeppeppy | Should star that in a stephen king flick |
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| 19:07.47 | malreth | after they put the front plates on, it'll look buck-toothed. :p |
| 19:08.34 | Lunessa | Haha, yes. |
| 19:10.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god. |
| 19:11.26 | malreth | now i get to wait 2 or 3 years before i can replace my old civic |
| 19:11.56 | Lunessa | Still, it's a nice looking ride, and she's quite happy to have it, I'm sure. |
| 19:12.02 | malreth | she is |
| 19:12.28 | malreth | the Rodeo was falling apart... literally |
| 19:12.52 | ScytheBlade1 | haha @ comments: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1314255&cid=28809801 |
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| 19:17.09 | ScytheBlade1 | TEKKUB |
| 19:17.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Why did you break github |
| 19:19.24 | tekkub | I was asleep |
| 19:19.31 | tekkub | and fixes are on the way |
| 19:20.16 | ScytheBlade1 | hot |
| 19:20.18 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 |
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| 19:24.04 | Fisker | this is my madness face |
| 19:27.36 | Bruners | cute |
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| 19:28.21 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't look different to me. |
| 19:30.02 | Fisker | tries really hard |
| 19:30.04 | Fisker | what about now? |
| 19:30.13 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Looks constipated. |
| 19:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | that is his normal face |
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| 19:42.09 | DWSR | Is there a way to map an actionbar to the pet bar? |
| 19:43.45 | DWSR | I want to use modifier based paging in Bartender and I want Ctrl to be mapped out to my petbar |
| 19:44.23 | Dagmar | No. |
| 19:45.29 | durcyn | best you could do is /petattack and pet /cast etc macros |
| 19:45.43 | DWSR | Could I not use /click macros? |
| 19:46.33 | Dagmar | Why would you |
| 19:46.55 | Dagmar | If you're going to use macros you might as well just use /petattack|/petpassive and so forth |
| 19:47.16 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:47.32 | durcyn | (which is still buggy as hell for abilities that aren't on the petbar last i checked) |
| 19:48.51 | Dagmar | You can (and probably should for now) turn autocast for specific abilities on and off with a macro |
| 19:48.57 | DWSR | hmm |
| 19:48.59 | Dagmar | I'm damn well doing it over here. |
| 19:49.04 | Dagmar | I've had my fill of "suprise aggro" |
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| 19:49.29 | kd3 | but you don't like pulling rooms full of mobs? |
| 19:49.40 | Dagmar | I don't have a problem with roomfulls of mobs. |
| 19:49.59 | Dagmar | I have a problem with the monkey casting Growl, then Cower in the middle of that roomful of mobs. |
| 19:50.06 | DWSR | rofl |
| 19:50.24 | ZorbaBeta | that is what happens when your pet's happiness is way, way, *way* too low |
| 19:50.30 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 19:50.42 | Dagmar | That's awesome enough to suggest to the devs |
| 19:50.49 | Dagmar | WAY better than the week or so pets would run off |
| 19:51.36 | Dagmar | "Hunters: Pets are now smart enough to do something about it if you neglect them--like Cowering in the middle of a pack of mobs" |
| 19:51.57 | Lopeppeppy | Or pulling an entire instance of mobs, and THEN running away! |
| 19:52.07 | kd3 | I'm still fond of the april fool's patch notes for hunters. 'Pets have a small chance to attack the Hunter when hungry. The chance increases with each passing moment that the pet isn't fed.' |
| 19:52.13 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%28Evil_Patch_Notes%29 |
| 19:52.30 | Dagmar | I could deal witht hat too |
| 19:53.08 | ZorbaBeta | I like the "New Dungeon Visitation Limitation System" |
| 19:53.51 | Dagmar | If "Night Elves will now lose a small percentage of experience after jumping." had gone in most of yas would be level 5. |
| 19:54.40 | Lunessa | What are you trying to say to me? That you don't like the way my avatar bounces? |
| 19:54.40 | Lopeppeppy | The limitation system did go into place though. :) |
| 19:56.18 | Lopeppeppy | Warlock bags sort of went into place. These are hilarious! |
| 19:56.25 | Ackis | holy shit I'm shivering |
| 19:56.31 | Dagmar | "In order to assist with various upkeep costs, at a designated time NPC vendors will now give players an amount of gold based upon their level. This is currently slated to occur every Tuesday from 6:00 AM to 11:00 AM PST." |
| 19:56.44 | Lopeppeppy | Why, Ackis? |
| 19:56.46 | ZorbaBeta | those are awesomely evil patches |
| 19:56.51 | ZorbaBeta | I love the warlock notes |
| 19:57.11 | kd3 | 'Friendly emotes are no longer available to the Warlock.' |
| 19:57.15 | Esamynn | haha |
| 19:57.30 | Lunessa | Dagmar: That last one is pretty good. |
| 19:57.35 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I'm cold lol |
| 19:57.57 | ZorbaBeta | The use of 'if', 'for' and other flow control statements has been deemed exploitable, and have been removed from the Lua script implementation. |
| 19:57.59 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, put on pants. |
| 19:58.06 | Lopeppeppy | The grass is exceptionally gree. :) |
| 19:58.19 | DWSR | Several new items can be found at various vendors which do double and triple damage to players of a specific class or race. We'll add more each patch, but right now Gnome Stomper, Ancient Warlock Destroyer and the Roguebane are immediately available. |
| 19:59.07 | Esamynn | I was playing my lowbie warlock alt yesterday, I desperately wanted a way to limit the soul shards to my soul bag :P |
| 19:59.09 | DWSR | I want roguebane so badly. :) |
| 19:59.20 | DWSR | Esamynn: There's several addons which do that |
| 19:59.25 | kd3 | zomg, time to take over some channels |
| 19:59.27 | Esamynn | I ended up just spending 600g to get a 32slot soul bag ;) |
| 19:59.44 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I'm at work :( |
| 19:59.58 | Esamynn | DWSR: I'm sure, I like my solution though ;) |
| 20:00.07 | DWSR | indeed |
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| 20:00.32 | Esamynn | 32 slot bag (even if it is a soul bag) on a level 26 amuses me |
| 20:00.43 | alestane | "Paladins will now receive a 2% increase to DPS for every cloth item worn. In addition, chance to crit will increase by 5% if a dress is worn." |
| 20:00.50 | DWSR | LOL |
| 20:02.08 | Lopeppeppy | Kill the one in the dress! |
| 20:02.24 | Kraps | haha, RL forgot to put a healer on live side of gothik |
| 20:02.38 | DWSR | that's pretty funn |
| 20:02.46 | alestane | "Above the corpse of Mankrik's wife, a large red arrow will now appear and be viewable for up to 500 yards. To ensure that the associated quest offers some challenge, typing the word 'Mankrik' 'wife' or 'anyone seen' in Barrens chat will now result in experience loss. " |
| 20:02.46 | alestane | I only wish. |
| 20:03.02 | Dagmar | That would be awesome |
| 20:03.19 | DWSR | rofl |
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| 20:05.12 | Dagmar | What we need now is a "polite" way to refer the people who can't find anything to go play FreeRealms |
| 20:05.36 | Lopeppeppy | "Get a clue, a GPS, or go play another game." |
| 20:05.39 | Dagmar | Quest objectives there have a spotlight that shines down on them (like the Elder Moonstone light) which is visible from about a half a mile away |
| 20:06.36 | Dagmar | It's about as hard as finding the grand opening of a vegas casino |
| 20:06.50 | Fisker | i am getting it Shirik |
| 20:06.55 | Lopeppeppy | Or South of the Border on I-95 |
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| 20:07.02 | Dagmar | heh |
| 20:07.13 | Fisker | 7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_cliente_en-us_Retail_UltimateE-GRMCEULXFRER_EN_DVD.iso |
| 20:07.13 | Fisker | rawr |
| 20:07.19 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 20:07.26 | KarlKFI | "The nickname âNickServâ does not exist." uh.... |
| 20:07.28 | Fisker | huggles Gryphon |
| 20:07.29 | Fisker | classic |
| 20:07.32 | Gryphon | huggles Fisker |
| 20:07.35 | Fisker | [21:59:12] -tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi all, one of our sponsors is having connectivity problems resulting in a loss of services (ChanServ, NickServ etc). Please keep with us while we investigate. Thanks. |
| 20:07.38 | kd3 | [15:59:10] -tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi all, one of our sponsors is having connectivity problems resulting in a loss of services (ChanServ, NickServ etc). Please keep with us while we investigate. Thanks. |
| 20:07.43 | kd3 | bah |
| 20:07.44 | Fisker | OWNED kd3 |
| 20:07.50 | Fisker | owned so much even t is laugh |
| 20:07.50 | Fisker | ing |
| 20:08.03 | Fisker | your watch is 2 seconds off btw |
| 20:08.17 | kd3 | pokes ntp |
| 20:08.22 | KarlKFI | so... channels that require registration are hosed, eh? |
| 20:08.41 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, guess I won't be logging back in at home, huh? |
| 20:08.57 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: It worked fine a few minutes ago. |
| 20:08.58 | Fisker | Shiibot can't do shit |
| 20:08.59 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:09.00 | Fisker | :4 |
| 20:09.01 | kd3 | nope, my clock's accurate |
| 20:09.01 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 20:09.04 | Fisker | bah |
| 20:09.07 | Fisker | he fixed it |
| 20:09.07 | Ackis | 13:58tomaw[Global Notice] Hi all, one of our sponsors is having connectivity problems resulting in a loss of services (ChanServ, NickServ etc). Please keep with us while we investigate. Thanks. |
| 20:09.11 | Ackis | owned Fisker |
| 20:09.14 | Ackis | owned |
| 20:09.14 | Fisker | naw Ackis |
| 20:09.15 | Fisker | NAW |
| 20:09.18 | Ackis | YES |
| 20:09.19 | Fisker | i was first |
| 20:09.22 | Ackis | nope |
| 20:09.22 | Fisker | = owned Ackis |
| 20:09.24 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:09.45 | Ackis | 13:58 is before 21:59 |
| 20:10.01 | Fisker | naw |
| 20:10.05 | Fisker | 21:59 is before 13:58 |
| 20:10.52 | Ackis | no |
| 20:10.54 | Fisker | i lol'd btw |
| 20:10.54 | Ackis | it's after |
| 20:10.55 | Ackis | l2clock |
| 20:10.57 | kd3 | http://nist.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java agrees with my system clock, so... hah |
| 20:11.03 | Fisker | it's both Ackis |
| 20:11.04 | Fisker | l2clock |
| 20:11.26 | Fisker | Now that Microsoft have caved into Opera's demands Opera has said that IE is still biased because of the icon |
| 20:11.51 | Dagmar | Microsoft caved in to what? |
| 20:12.05 | Fisker | Opera's demands |
| 20:12.05 | kd3 | the browser vote page during win7's install process |
| 20:12.11 | kd3 | 'pick your browser: ie, firefox, opera' |
| 20:12.15 | Dagmar | Oh those weren't Opera's demands |
| 20:12.21 | Dagmar | That was from the EU |
| 20:12.24 | Fisker | no |
| 20:12.30 | Fisker | EU hasn't demanded shit yet |
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| 20:13.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 20:13.13 | Ackis | the EU is shit? |
| 20:13.18 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:13.19 | Dagmar | if Microsoft were actually listening to the other companies who make browsers, their browser wouldln't still be stuck in 2001 |
| 20:13.35 | Fisker | It isn't |
| 20:13.45 | Ackis | Fisker is a MS fanboi |
| 20:13.47 | Dagmar | It is. |
| 20:13.53 | Fisker | It isn't. |
| 20:13.56 | Fisker | Ackis no |
| 20:14.04 | Dagmar | The lack of SVG support or any W3C proposal post 2001 is a bit of a telltale |
| 20:14.05 | Lopeppeppy | My internets are still molasses slow. Rawr. |
| 20:14.06 | Fisker | I'm an anti-anti-ms-zealot |
| 20:14.17 | Dagmar | They put the browser vote thing in to stave of the European Commission |
| 20:14.20 | Ackis | Fisker: no u r fanboi! |
| 20:14.21 | Dagmar | s/of/off/; |
| 20:14.23 | Zealin | zealot what? |
| 20:14.32 | Fisker | durr Dagmar |
| 20:14.38 | Fisker | But it wasn't EU who demanded it |
| 20:14.41 | amro | I'm an anti-anti-anti-ms-zealot, die Fisker |
| 20:14.43 | Fisker | It was opera's idea |
| 20:14.51 | Esamynn | Fisker: shouldn't that be "anti-anti-ms-zealot-zealot" ? |
| 20:14.51 | Dagmar | They weren't doing it because of Opera |
| 20:14.55 | nicoli_s | is a ms fanboi |
| 20:15.00 | Fisker | oh yeah good point Esamynn |
| 20:15.15 | Esamynn | otherwise, you really are a fanboi :P |
| 20:15.15 | Fisker | Dagmar i didn't say that they were |
| 20:15.24 | Dagmar | Part of the reason they *don't* adopt anything anyone else comes up with is that they'd have to acknowledge that some other organization actually did something worthwhile on the web. |
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| 20:15.36 | Lunessa | Would a bunch of people arguing over this be like, stoned out of their minds right now? |
| 20:15.44 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 20:15.47 | Esamynn | haha |
| 20:15.56 | Lunessa | Thus is much explained. |
| 20:15.59 | Fisker | Ah so i guess that IE8 doesn't pass Acid2 after all Dagmar ? |
| 20:16.03 | Dagmar | ...or just high on pedantry. |
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| 20:16.31 | Dagmar | Fisker: Does acid2 involve the rounded corners attribute or SVG rendering? |
| 20:16.51 | Fisker | Is SVG everything? |
| 20:16.53 | Fisker | Also |
| 20:17.00 | Dagmar | Fisker: SVG is far more useful than most things. |
| 20:17.04 | Fisker | If they're so stuck in 2001 why is Firefox, Opera, etc. "copying" them? |
| 20:17.14 | Dagmar | They aren't. |
| 20:17.17 | Fisker | they are |
| 20:17.24 | Dagmar | No they're not and so are you. |
| 20:17.43 | durcyn | you can't troll a troll, gentlemen |
| 20:17.58 | DWSR | Yes you ca. |
| 20:17.59 | DWSR | can* |
| 20:18.03 | Dagmar | Oh he's trolling? |
| 20:18.09 | Dagmar | I thought he was just naturally an idiot. |
| 20:18.11 | kd3 | is water wet? |
| 20:18.17 | DWSR | water is wet. |
| 20:18.19 | Lopeppeppy | Last I checked. |
| 20:18.25 | DWSR | water is wet. How much wetter could water get? |
| 20:18.26 | Fisker | Stuff like the information panel, the way SSL is shown in the address bar, how domains are shown etc, are all to the credit of Microsoft |
| 20:18.26 | Lopeppeppy | But I don't have water at home, so I am not sure at this time. |
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| 20:18.41 | durcyn | Fisker: all to the credit of NCSA |
| 20:18.43 | amro | Fisker: anything relevant to browsing? |
| 20:18.48 | Dagmar | Not often you get trolls that stupid tho |
| 20:19.14 | Fisker | naw durcyn |
| 20:19.15 | durcyn | naw fisker |
| 20:19.15 | Fisker | naw durcyn |
| 20:19.15 | durcyn | ~fisker++ |
| 20:19.16 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 20:19.21 | Dagmar | ~fisker-- |
| 20:19.23 | kd3 | ~karma fisker |
| 20:19.23 | purl | fisker has karma of -14 |
| 20:19.34 | Fisker | you can't stop me durcyn |
| 20:19.38 | durcyn | don't feed him, kd3 :( |
| 20:19.47 | Dagmar | [1;30m[[1;37m1[1;30m][0m ùíù Ignoring ALL messages from fisker!*@*[0m |
| 20:19.51 | Dagmar | O yes we can |
| 20:19.57 | Fisker | this is my care face |
| 20:20.03 | Lunessa | Especially after midnight. Then the EVIL version gets released. |
| 20:20.09 | Fisker | Telling people on irc you're ignoring them is so manly :) |
| 20:20.27 | Fisker | Especially when you're incapable of winning your arguments ;3 |
| 20:20.42 | durcyn | arguing with someone who just ignored you is pretty pro too |
| 20:20.47 | DWSR | ^^\ |
| 20:20.52 | amro | ~durcyn++ |
| 20:21.01 | Lunessa | Fisker: It's not my manhood I question. It's yours. Actually, it's your humanity, but that's a different insult for another time. |
| 20:21.06 | Fisker | ~durcyn++ |
| 20:21.17 | DWSR | ~fisker++ |
| 20:21.19 | Dagmar | His bus has very few seats. |
| 20:21.26 | DWSR | ~dagmar++ |
| 20:21.28 | DWSR | ~durcyn++ |
| 20:21.36 | durcyn | anyway, he's a special needs dane, don't pick on him too much :( |
| 20:21.45 | DWSR | Let's argue more guys, come on? |
| 20:21.48 | DWSR | When's the real mudslinging. |
| 20:21.57 | DWSR | wow, punctuation is not my strong point, obviously. |
| 20:21.57 | Dagmar | Being posted to 4chan |
| 20:22.08 | DWSR | Dagmar: No, that's just publicity. |
| 20:22.14 | Fisker | in b4 page 10 |
| 20:22.45 | Dagmar | I've photoshopped in an AT&T employee shirt |
| 20:23.26 | Dagmar | (Seconarily to that, AT&T needs to drug test whoever made the decision to block img.4chan) |
| 20:23.53 | ScytheBlade1 | You mean that decision to stop a DDoS from saturating a 1GigE pipe? |
| 20:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | When the DDoS wasn't even pointed at them? |
| 20:24.10 | Dagmar | "HAY I HAVE AN IDEA! Let's drop in an indefensible blacklisting for the image server used by a notorious community of cranks and trolls!" |
| 20:24.13 | durcyn | it was just SYN backscatter from spoofed ddos traffic |
| 20:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah. a gigabit of it. |
| 20:24.35 | durcyn | and the block was put in place based on that alone, not the content |
| 20:24.40 | Dagmar | I'm still wondering why they think we'll believe that an image server could possibly be useful for performing a DDoS |
| 20:24.44 | kd3 | tabs open nanog |
| 20:24.49 | Lunessa | 4chan can say what they want, but it's likely that AT&T did the right thing. |
| 20:25.10 | Fisker | naw |
| 20:25.12 | Lopeppeppy | When it doubt, block it until proven otherwise. Someone may have been spoofing or something, but that's not their job to find out. |
| 20:25.41 | Fisker | If their network is being abused to perform illegal activities it sure well is their job to find out |
| 20:25.43 | Lunessa | Humans are smarter than computers, but it takes time to study data. |
| 20:25.59 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You're talking about AT&T employees. |
| 20:26.06 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:26.24 | Dagmar | You could substitute "computers" with "toasters" and it would still be hard to swallow. |
| 20:26.25 | Lopeppeppy | 4chan's job. AT&T's job is just to block it. |
| 20:26.27 | Lunessa | Dagmar: You can scratch the last two words and replace them with "humans." |
| 20:26.28 | durcyn | except it wasn't, Fisker, the traffic didn't originate on their network |
| 20:26.39 | Dagmar | AT&T employees arne't humans. |
| 20:26.41 | durcyn | hence S P O O F E D |
| 20:27.01 | Fisker | Doesn't matter much |
| 20:27.04 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Either are most of the 'people' on the internet. |
| 20:27.14 | Fisker | They can still block it |
| 20:27.45 | Lunessa | I mean, have YOU passed the Gom jabbar? |
| 20:27.54 | nicoli_s | i have |
| 20:28.02 | Dagmar | I still think it's a miracle every time I pick up a phone with the AT&T logo and get a dial tone |
| 20:28.07 | nicoli_s | i just made a really tiny cheat sheet |
| 20:28.29 | Dagmar | The way they manage their data circuits, it's a wonder any voice calls _ever_ happen correctly |
| 20:29.13 | alestane | Um. the clip property on CSS2 also appears to clip the box's scroll bars. |
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| 20:30.31 | nicoli_s | css2? thats double my css version |
| 20:31.25 | Lunessa | The pain of having my normally fast connection be agonizingly slow is going to make me start screaming soon. |
| 20:31.34 | tekkub | Dagmar: dial tone? people even know what that is anymore? |
| 20:31.47 | Fisker | you should stop downloading all that hardcore pornography Lunessa |
| 20:31.59 | Dagmar | yeah, it's a sign your call is running over copper wires |
| 20:32.05 | Lunessa | Fisker: Nah, it's all softcore, hotel edits. |
| 20:32.08 | Dagmar | ...and might be disconnected at any moment through sheer idiocy |
| 20:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | GAH... a week of 100 degree heat, who the fuck ordered this? >< where's my rainy and cool pacific northwest :( |
| 20:32.55 | Dagmar | I'm not joking when I say that while I was working for a dialup ISP I spent a good 20-30 hours EVERY WEEK just on the phone with BellSouth (now AT&T again) yelling at them to get them to turn some of our T1 circuits back on |
| 20:33.01 | Fisker | oh Lunessa |
| 20:33.07 | Lunessa | Visiting here in Texas to flood my streets and knock out my power with thunderstorms. |
| 20:33.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i'll trade you. |
| 20:33.23 | Dagmar | ...because without fail, at _least_ one of the thirty-five to forty T1 circuits we had for dialins was ALWAYS down. |
| 20:33.28 | Dagmar | Usually it was 2-3 |
| 20:37.10 | alestane | Okay, how the *&^% do I center an absolutely positioned block of fixed width? |
| 20:37.29 | alestane | Neither margin: 0 auto nor left: auto; right: auto appears to work. |
| 20:37.35 | kd3 | don't absolutely position it? give it a fixed width |
| 20:37.47 | kd3 | s/give it a fixed width// |
| 20:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: if it's absolutely positioned, you need to. ,well.. absolutely position it |
| 20:38.07 | Dagmar | Absolutely. |
| 20:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | set the left/right/top/bottom properties |
| 20:38.10 | Fisker | harr |
| 20:38.16 | Fisker | Windows 7 E in 40 minutes |
| 20:38.16 | kd3 | I'd say look at how we redesigned wowwiki's front page, but the css involved is a disaster |
| 20:38.18 | Dagmar | It's all relative in the end. |
| 20:38.43 | alestane | I want a 400px square, centered at the bottom of the browser window. |
| 20:39.03 | kd3 | width:400px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto; |
| 20:39.07 | alestane | I'm not sure how to do that without absolute positioning. |
| 20:39.18 | kd3 | but at the bottom of the window? |
| 20:39.19 | kd3 | thinks |
| 20:39.31 | tekkub | http://www.sundayat10.com/?num=627 |
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| 20:39.58 | kd3 | set an outer div with absolute positioning, then inside that div have a block that's got the sequence I typed a second ago |
| 20:40.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Thing is, with absolute positioning, i dont think you can guarantee it's perfectly centered, you'd want to say Left: 200px, or whatever, to offset it from the left side by that amount, but the browser window width is variable... |
| 20:40.07 | Dagmar | tekkub:: lol |
| 20:40.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, kd3's option might work. |
| 20:40.40 | NightHawkTheSane | might want to set the outer div's width to 100% though |
| 20:40.51 | kd3 | anyway, yay for surprise "can you come to work... like 30 minutes ago" calls |
| 20:41.47 | Fisker | awww |
| 20:41.56 | Fisker | 40 minutes became 1 hour and 30 minutes |
| 20:42.01 | Fisker | which became 35 minutes |
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| 20:42.07 | Fisker | in b4 6 days |
| 20:43.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. i've been following APoD too long, i'm seeing repeats |
| 20:43.38 | Torhal | Fisker: For you - http://blogs.discovery.com/news_space/2009/07/overwear-the-underwear-two-months-and-no-complaints-astronaut-says.html |
| 20:44.35 | Fisker | nice i need a pair of those! |
| 20:44.51 | nicoli_s | imwearing them now! |
| 20:45.02 | nicoli_s | well, im wearing soiled underpants at least :P |
| 20:45.11 | Fisker | sniffs |
| 20:47.19 | alestane | That works about as well as anything is likely to. |
| 20:48.16 | Fisker | give me Windows 7 E nicoli_s |
| 20:48.43 | Ackis | http://www.abprices.com/user/Ackis YES I AM A NERD! |
| 20:50.05 | Fisker | it could be me |
| 20:50.07 | Fisker | it could be you |
| 20:50.19 | nicoli_s | i dont even have it yet fisker |
| 20:50.21 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.25 | nicoli_s | though there is a disk of it somewhere in the office |
| 20:50.40 | nicoli_s | im quite content with xp at home and server 2008 at work |
| 20:54.55 | Lunessa | That article makes me think that personal hygiene nanites would be a big seller. |
| 20:56.21 | Dagmar | You could just set up sprayers to hose down crowds entering comic book conventions |
| 20:57.25 | Fisker | 30 minutes nicoli_s |
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| 20:58.14 | Vonhinten | Oh god, 2 months of the same underwear... I don't care how antibacterial and deodorant they are, that's fucking nasty |
| 20:58.46 | ScytheBlade1 | says that he changed them weekly for two months, I think |
| 20:58.47 | Fisker | in a good way Vonhinten |
| 20:58.56 | ScytheBlade1 | NeoTron: hey now, I resemble that remark! |
| 20:59.12 | Dagmar | tries to guess where ScytheBlade is so he can move furhter away |
| 20:59.43 | KarlKFI | don't guess wrong, you may inadvertently move closer |
| 20:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ... less the inferred personal hygine comment :P |
| 21:00.06 | Lunessa | I mean, I'd love to have nanites that scoured my teeth and arteries for plaque, maybe something to clean sweat by-products off my skin and trim unwanted facial/body hair for me so that I always looked/smelled clean no matter the hour. |
| 21:00.28 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I can guarantee you people would pay more money for nanites that clean other 'con attendees |
| 21:00.34 | KarlKFI | I'm still waiting for FatBuster pills that don't have cancerous side effects |
| 21:00.39 | ScytheBlade1 | and holy crap xmlspy is nice |
| 21:00.46 | alestane | Until someone hacked, said nanites, anyway. |
| 21:00.53 | Dagmar | We almost considered using bars of soap engraved with the PhreakNIC logo after PN10 |
| 21:00.55 | Ackis | Lunessa: and ones that captured the smell of farts too eh? |
| 21:01.03 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I'm just thinking that if they were cheap and available, they'ed be pretty much expected. |
| 21:01.05 | alestane | :gsub(",", "") |
| 21:01.05 | Fisker | 25 minutes nicoli_s |
| 21:01.22 | KarlKFI | xmlspy is a bloated heap |
| 21:01.26 | KarlKFI | but it does work |
| 21:01.41 | KarlKFI | better than most alternatives |
| 21:02.03 | ScytheBlade1 | much better than anything else I've tried |
| 21:02.11 | KarlKFI | but it's nearing Word or Photoshop bloatation status |
| 21:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just using it for schema generation, and the simple fact that it /works/ pleases me |
| 21:02.33 | Dagmar | Oh god |
| 21:02.55 | Dagmar | shakeweight.org |
| 21:03.19 | ScytheBlade1 | won't be clicking that |
| 21:03.19 | KarlKFI | in case of a water landing, don your nearest bloatation device and hope it's not electrically charged. |
| 21:03.29 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: It's an ad. |
| 21:03.47 | ScytheBlade1 | which is even _less_ reason for me to click that |
| 21:03.53 | Dagmar | It's a "personal exerciser" that's "made for women" |
| 21:04.05 | Dagmar | The animated video tells the whole story. rofl |
| 21:04.08 | KarlKFI | sexually charged - good. electrically charged - bad |
| 21:04.39 | Dagmar | No longer is there a need to be encumbered with "bulky muscles". hehe |
| 21:05.46 | Arrowmaster | thats just wrong |
| 21:06.22 | ScytheBlade1 | KarlKFI: know of any other apps that can be used to create schema without pain? |
| 21:09.08 | nicoli_s | whats the countdown for fisker? |
| 21:13.52 | Lunessa | ... TRON Legacy - DO WANT |
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| 21:20.22 | KarlKFI | sbo xmlspy isn't painful per say. the problem is more that xml can be used for anything, so there's a billion options. |
| 21:20.34 | ScytheBlade1 | right |
| 21:20.45 | ScytheBlade1 | But this 30-day trial will expire in.. 29 days |
| 21:20.54 | KarlKFI | yeah, and it's expensive |
| 21:20.59 | nicoli_s | xmlspy? |
| 21:21.18 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 21:21.24 | Arrowmaster | dont you know how to get around trials by now? |
| 21:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It costs about $158 more than I have |
| 21:21.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It being $160 |
| 21:21.57 | Arrowmaster | find the registry key it uses to track when the trial started and delete it |
| 21:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | the xmlspy registration talks to the server to determine demo license validity |
| 21:22.29 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 21:22.30 | ScytheBlade1 | s/server/altova server/ |
| 21:22.44 | Arrowmaster | so does kaspersky but i reset that every 30 days |
| 21:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:24.17 | Fisker | i gots it nicoli_s |
| 21:25.07 | KarlKFI | sbo, could try Liquid XML Studio. looks interesting |
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| 21:25.22 | KarlKFI | or XMLFox |
| 21:25.49 | nicoli_s | what does xmlspy do? |
| 21:25.57 | nicoli_s | just a program to view xml? |
| 21:25.59 | KarlKFI | everything related to xml |
| 21:26.04 | ScytheBlade1 | nicoli_s: http://www.altova.com/products/xmlspy/xmlspy.html |
| 21:26.34 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 21:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | KarlKFI: liquid XML is actually quite a bit more expensive |
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| 21:27.18 | ScytheBlade1 | though XMLFox looks kinda tempting for the price range ($0) |
| 21:28.04 | KarlKFI | uh... i'm seeing free liquid dls... |
| 21:28.06 | KarlKFI | http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Web_Authoring/Misc__Web_Authoring_Tools/Liquid_XML_Studio__Free_XML_XSD_Editor_.html |
| 21:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | probably also a demo, I'd bet |
| 21:28.24 | KarlKFI | http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Web_Authoring/Scripting_Tools/Liquid_XML_Studio_2009.html |
| 21:28.42 | KarlKFI | "Features: The biggest feature of this tool is that it is free. It is a graphical XML schema editor and XML editor." |
| 21:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh I see what they did there |
| 21:29.32 | KarlKFI | http://www.liquid-technologies.com/ |
| 21:29.41 | KarlKFI | it's a free 'cummunity edition' |
| 21:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 21:29.53 | Ackis | anyone here that went to WWI in the EU last year? |
| 21:30.31 | KarlKFI | http://www.liquid-technologies.com/ |
| 21:30.33 | KarlKFI | erg |
| 21:30.55 | KarlKFI | http://www.liquid-technologies.com/XmlStudio/Liquid-Xml-Studio-Version-Comparison.aspx |
| 21:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | hm @ "Limited to smaller schemas" |
| 21:31.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder what it defines as smaller |
| 21:31.51 | KarlKFI | Projects can not be saved |
| 21:32.12 | KarlKFI | gimp demo version |
| 21:32.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't care about projects, just a single file |
| 21:32.19 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, very gimp |
| 21:33.47 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, Fisker might have |
| 21:33.57 | foxlit | Ackis: yes. |
| 21:34.21 | jnwhiteh | Anyone have a character on Emerald Dream-EU |
| 21:34.24 | jnwhiteh | horde? |
| 21:34.45 | mikma | (highlevel) |
| 21:34.55 | mikma | like, 61+ |
| 21:37.30 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: i know it's overkill and you may not like the publisher, but visual studio express editions come with a pretty damn good xml/schema editor. |
| 21:37.54 | cog|work | (and are free as in beer) |
| 21:38.17 | Thunder_Child | so only if ScytheBlade1 is good looking? |
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| 21:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: I've got a technet subscription, don't label me as a hater ;) |
| 21:40.12 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: but last I checked, they actually removed it for various reasons? |
| 21:41.03 | cog|work | hence "may" (i can't keep track of who the MS H8rs are :P ) |
| 21:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, fair enough |
| 21:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I've actually got the web edition open on this VM |
| 21:41.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Where exactly is this XSD designer? |
| 21:42.06 | cog|work | just make a new xsd file |
| 21:42.08 | cog|work | and open it |
| 21:42.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Which gives me a fancy version of notepad and content assist, but not too much else |
| 21:42.48 | ScytheBlade1 | something like http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/xmlspy-schema.png |
| 21:42.51 | Cide | you need *more*? GOD, PEOPLE THESE DAYS ARE SPOILED |
| 21:42.51 | Ackis | hates MS RAWR |
| 21:42.59 | ScytheBlade1 | would be awesome |
| 21:43.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: see above link |
| 21:43.20 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: hmmm yeah, that particular feature might not be in the express version |
| 21:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: that above doc is about 10 tabs deep at a minimum, I don't want to do it by hand :P |
| 21:43.48 | KarlKFI | personally i just write them by hand |
| 21:43.50 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: does technet get you the full VS? |
| 21:43.52 | Cide | you're clearly misinterpreting |
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| 21:43.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It gets me -no- VS, sadly |
| 21:43.59 | ScytheBlade1 | MSDN would |
| 21:44.08 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: could you pull in r59 of LibHealComm into SUF? r58 has broken upgrading ;o |
| 21:44.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I get every server product under the sun and then some, but no VS |
| 21:44.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got retail 2k5 and 2k8 pro which I can install, though |
| 21:44.38 | ScytheBlade1 | So I just might give that a try |
| 21:45.21 | ScytheBlade1 | (Eclipse also has XSD/DTD content assist and a pretty nice XSD editor, but the XSD editory is... buggy, ugly, and hard to use) |
| 21:45.23 | KarlKFI | what's LibHealComm do, announce heals? |
| 21:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | *editor |
| 21:45.52 | KarlKFI | i wrote a dtd once... |
| 21:46.04 | Gnarfoz | KarlKFI: communicate heals between addons, to facilitate "incoming heals" functionality |
| 21:46.20 | KarlKFI | figured. didn't know there was a lib |
| 21:46.26 | KarlKFI | is it used by much? |
| 21:47.04 | foxlit | wrote a dtd recently |
| 21:47.27 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: do you know for sure if the professional editions have that editing mode? |
| 21:48.47 | foxlit | But meh, DTD is a nice, trivial format. |
| 21:48.47 | KarlKFI | xsd ftw |
| 21:48.47 | foxlit | XSD, on the other hand, is cr-a-zy. |
| 21:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | cr-a-zy awesome |
| 21:48.53 | Gnarfoz | KarlKFI: It's the most widely used one, I'd say |
| 21:49.05 | foxlit | It's just nigh unreadable. |
| 21:49.07 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: it did last time i tried but now i can't find it :| |
| 21:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | heh. which version? |
| 21:49.19 | KarlKFI | you peopel that cant read xml has issues |
| 21:49.20 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz oh right |
| 21:49.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm about 90% sure they removed it from 2k8 |
| 21:49.22 | foxlit | Which I suppose is nice if you're only using it in software. |
| 21:49.31 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz yea I reported that issue and I forgot to do an update :< |
| 21:49.36 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: heh |
| 21:49.38 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: might've been in 05 version then. That was the first one i used extensively |
| 21:49.53 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: awesome, I have that retail on CDs |
| 21:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: thanks for the info |
| 21:50.43 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 21:50.48 | Fisker | i need IE8 for Windows 7 :( |
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| 21:56.47 | malreth_ | checking out... see you all tomorrow |
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| 22:06.36 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: looks like the 2010 beta has a whole new schema editing system |
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| 22:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: I recall something like that being the reason they yanked it from 08 |
| 22:12.58 | Aqua | yanked from 08 |
| 22:12.59 | Aqua | ? |
| 22:13.14 | Aqua | the schema editor in visual studio? |
| 22:13.18 | cog|work | yes |
| 22:13.42 | ScytheBlade1 | pats dreamspark.com |
| 22:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Sooner or later, it will have VS2010 |
| 22:14.13 | Aqua | i downloaded the beta off msdn, but i never installed it |
| 22:14.58 | Aqua | got too involved with the windows 7 beta and rc's |
| 22:17.43 | Aqua | anyone remember the name of that addon that used to break down recipes into their most basic materials? I my guidlies are asking me and idk off hand anymore |
| 22:18.19 | Dagmar | Dunno. ATSW kinda made it obsolete |
| 22:18.39 | Aqua | unfamilar with that one |
| 22:18.46 | Lunessa | Aqua: Reverse Engineering? |
| 22:19.02 | Dagmar | If you tell it to make a complex recipe, i'll automatically queue up the sub-components for you |
| 22:19.09 | Gnarfoz | ATSW is teh suck though :> |
| 22:19.25 | Aqua | maybe, lunessa, that soudns right but idk off hand |
| 22:19.25 | Dagmar | It also interfaces with Lil' Sparky's Workshop so you can see which recipes are likely to make a profit |
| 22:19.55 | Dagmar | You can badmouth it all you like but I've yet to find anything better, even if the queue is a little buggy |
| 22:21.09 | Gnarfoz | oh, I'm not badmouthing it, I've used it for years. I've ditched it by now though because of all the problems it has |
| 22:21.34 | Gnarfoz | I've settled with DoubleWideTradeskills for now |
| 22:21.46 | Aqua | They said they've seen it in tailoring, where if you need to make 10 bolts of imbued frostweave, it breaks it down and says, you need X cloth + X dust |
| 22:22.22 | Lunessa | That's Reverse Engineering |
| 22:22.59 | Lunessa | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4940-ReverseEngineering.html |
| 22:23.11 | Gnarfoz | there's an earlier one that does that, I just can't recall its name |
| 22:23.32 | Gnarfoz | (because it's one of those freaking hip names that don't tell you at all what the addon does0 |
| 22:24.36 | Aqua | yea, idk, i ought i do it with pen and paper, but who kn ows |
| 22:24.44 | Dagmar | In ATSW if you tell it to make 10 bolts of that when you next go the bank or AH it'll pop up a shopping list for you |
| 22:25.06 | Gnarfoz | and it'll keep trying to get that stuff even when you log on alts |
| 22:25.07 | Aqua | yea, the addon this chick is thinking of spams it too party chat |
| 22:25.12 | Gnarfoz | or recently cleared the queue... |
| 22:25.29 | Gnarfoz | or it will get materials for one too many or one less :D |
| 22:25.47 | Gnarfoz | :\ it's neat, but you can't totally rely on it |
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| 22:45.18 | Lunessa | http://www.pcworld.com/article/169109/bill_gates_leaves_facebook_says_its_too_much_hassle.html |
| 22:48.18 | Fisker | old |
| 22:51.04 | nicoli_s | thousands of years old |
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| 22:54.06 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 22:54.09 | Fisker | IE8 for Windows 7 |
| 22:54.10 | Fisker | now |
| 22:56.22 | Stanzilla | Fisker: why do you install the EU version when you cry for IE afterwards? |
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| 22:57.40 | Fisker | I'm EU Stanzilla |
| 22:58.12 | Stanzilla | sooo? |
| 22:58.59 | Fisker | yo momma? |
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| 23:10.28 | Fisker | Everything would be so easy with IE8 |
| 23:12.13 | Fisker | goodnight nicoli_s |
| 23:12.15 | Fisker | i now hate you |
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| 23:15.22 | bleeter | Fisker: you'd still be easier |
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| 23:33.39 | Kraps | If 2 people have different raid ids whos gets overwritten if they go into a raid? |
| 23:34.58 | Lunessa | No one's. They go to different instances |
| 23:36.04 | Kraps | even if they are in the same raid group? |
| 23:36.25 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 23:37.25 | Kaso | wouldnt overriding sort of break the point of raid lockouts |
| 23:37.35 | Kraps | so you can only ninja an id if you havent done the raid that week |
| 23:38.15 | Kraps | and what is it with this guy |
| 23:38.16 | Kraps | [2] [4:Nitecreeper]: i will use mark of wild spell on u for free pst for more info |
| 23:39.24 | Kraps | [2] [4:Nitecreeper]: i have lots of spells i can use on u for free pst for more info |
| 23:39.28 | Kraps | huh? |
| 23:39.50 | Kaso | trade channel troll |
| 23:40.19 | Kaso | people say stupid things in trade in order to elicit irate responses for comedy purposes |
| 23:40.44 | Kraps | no ones talking to him, theres some loot drama in /2 |
| 23:40.54 | KarlKFI | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.38 | Kraps | i dont ignore, theres too much i would miss |
| 23:44.25 | KarlKFI | massochist |
| 23:46.01 | Kraps | reading is run |
| 23:46.06 | Kraps | fun* |
| 23:50.43 | Kraps | does a shield spike do damage on a partial block? |
| 23:51.49 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 23:52.06 | Kraps | so it might be worth it then |
| 23:52.26 | KarlKFI | partial block is the same as a full block except that the dmg done initially was less than your block value |
| 23:52.45 | Kraps | over the defense enchant |
| 23:52.53 | Kraps | idk :( |
| 23:53.12 | KarlKFI | up to your play style and gear |
| 23:53.40 | KarlKFI | defense is more avoidance |
| 23:53.41 | Kraps | i dont have a second shield |
| 23:53.46 | Kraps | i know |
| 23:53.58 | KarlKFI | do you have threat problems? |
| 23:54.15 | KarlKFI | or problems keeping agro |
| 23:54.17 | Kraps | sometimes? |
| 23:54.31 | Kraps | stupid rage mechanic |
| 23:55.09 | KarlKFI | a spike will onyl help gaining agro over time. it wont help on initial agro gain much |
| 23:55.45 | KarlKFI | try it out, it's not liek they're that expensive |
| 23:55.54 | KarlKFI | unless you're not def capped |
| 23:56.08 | Kraps | oh i am |
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| 23:58.06 | Kraps | bbl |
