| 00:00.37 | Cidan | Thunder_Child: Neat. |
| 00:00.40 | Legorol | Dagmar: I have been relying on the set bonus (without realising it's not working) for the past 7 months :o) |
| 00:00.49 | Legorol | I have a toon that I play rarely, a slow leveling hunter |
| 00:01.18 | Dagmar | Well, it works if you go in for the melee win |
| 00:01.52 | Dagmar | ...although I don't understand the words there... They don't make sense... |
| 00:01.55 | Legorol | yeah i realised that much |
| 00:02.02 | Dagmar | "slow" "leveing" and "hunter"? |
| 00:02.19 | Legorol | yah, he levels slowly because i play him very rarely, and i play him with my better half |
| 00:02.25 | Legorol | leveling with my better half is not very fast :o) |
| 00:02.46 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Should have shown him the develop module |
| 00:02.47 | Dagmar | You need to get yourself a Gorilladin and just put her on autofollow |
| 00:02.59 | Legorol | you are missing the point, I think |
| 00:03.00 | Shirik | the library module doesn't really do much with regards to manipulation :) |
| 00:03.26 | Legorol | Dagmar: the aim isn't to get to max level asap. The aim is to have fun in game, explore stuff, stare at cute animals etc. |
| 00:03.44 | Dagmar | Gorillas are always hungry. |
| 00:03.55 | Legorol | I can spare 1 out of 10 characters for that purpose ;) |
| 00:04.01 | Dagmar | Put him on aggressive mode, and make sure someone zaps whatever he attacks. ;) |
| 00:04.14 | Dagmar | Then you just "let the magic happen" while you take screenshots. hehe |
| 00:04.30 | Legorol | Dagmar: again, you are missing the point. Optimization is not the goal at all. |
| 00:04.44 | Legorol | We run with our favourite pet: a dragonhawk from Botanica. |
| 00:06.35 | Dagmar | Hmm... Those don't come in Tenacity form-factor, do they. :/ |
| 00:09.03 | Legorol | nope |
| 00:09.31 | Dagmar | bummer |
| 00:09.53 | Legorol | it's a cunning pet |
| 00:10.09 | Legorol | but it's firebreathing ability is pretty cool... and i used to confuse people when running Botanica, they kept trying to attack it :D |
| 00:10.14 | Thunder_Child | Cidan, http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Lightroom-d.jpg as per Shirik's request |
| 00:10.14 | zenzelezz | cunning... like a fox |
| 00:10.49 | Cidan | Oh, huh. |
| 00:10.52 | Cidan | Not bad. |
| 00:11.47 | Thunder_Child | there is more but you have to scroll down |
| 00:14.46 | Iriel | Apple's version of Lightroom is Aperture - to whomever asked earlier |
| 00:15.02 | Iriel | I have to say that in general, LightRoom is better (though Aperture has better library management) |
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| 00:30.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Confused |
| 00:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | The ice tray in the freezer (fed from the ice machine) had about 20 yellow ice cubes in it |
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| 00:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | Lemonade ice cubes, maybe? |
| 00:31.54 | ScytheBlade1 | No, they were mixed in quite well |
| 00:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And clearly from the ice machine |
| 00:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | I am officially done packing for tonight. I'm wiped! |
| 00:32.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Ice machine. |
| 00:32.11 | Lopeppeppy | Um... that sounds ominous. |
| 00:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why the ice machine is now empty |
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| 00:41.04 | Gnarfoz | how do I leave an arena? |
| 00:45.20 | Gnarfoz | !api Leave |
| 00:45.20 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'Leave': GuildLeave, CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_LEAVE, OnHyperlinkLeave, OnLeave, PLAYER_LEAVE_COMBAT, LeaveChannelByName, LeaveParty, LeaveBattlefield, ArenaTeamLeave |
| 00:45.32 | Gnarfoz | !api leavebattlefield |
| 00:45.32 | lua_bot | LeaveBattlefield: Immediately exits the current battleground intance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/LeaveBattlefield) |
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| 02:21.44 | Cairenn | pokes Sargeras |
| 02:24.37 | Nechckn | Whoa... Cairenn??!?! |
| 02:24.46 | Cairenn | waves at Nechckn |
| 02:24.48 | Nechckn | back from vacation? |
| 02:24.49 | Cairenn | Ciao |
| 02:24.55 | Cairenn | aye, got back late last night |
| 02:25.23 | Nechckn | Funky, I suppose it was nice to get away from the evil grind, finally, eh? |
| 02:25.36 | Cairenn | it was amazing |
| 02:25.42 | Cairenn | I had such a wonderful time |
| 02:25.57 | Nechckn | where'd you go? |
| 02:26.00 | Lopeppeppy | She almost found the missing link! |
| 02:26.01 | Cairenn | Rome |
| 02:26.13 | Nechckn | holy damn!! cool |
| 02:27.36 | Nechckn | Well, it is nice that you are back. Happy that you liked it. Will we have pictures? |
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| 02:31.38 | Cairenn | My daughter was on a dig up along the Tuscany coast for two weeks, doing a rescue dig of an old Roman Villa on top of an even older Etruscan village. My Mom and I flew over when she'd been there a little over a week, had a couple days to get settled into our hotel and kinda map out the different things we'd want to do once we met up with her, then the three of us spent a little over a week in Rome (and surrounding area). |
| 02:32.22 | Cairenn | it was an absolutely amazing experience |
| 02:32.31 | Cairenn | I've never been anywhere outside of Canada and the US |
| 02:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | Etruscan dead people... gods that makes me happy-sad. |
| 02:33.07 | Cairenn | I'm going to be doing up a post about the trip, probably tomorrow |
| 02:33.21 | Cairenn | still trying to get back on schedule again :) |
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| 02:35.07 | Lopeppeppy | There's some jet lag there fore sure. |
| 02:35.15 | Cairenn | heh, yup |
| 02:35.26 | Cairenn | my body is positive that it's about 4:30 am right now |
| 02:35.57 | Cairenn | trying to stay awake for a bit longer, so I can get switched back around |
| 02:35.59 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it is, somewhere. Like it's 5 o clock anytime I want a mojito. |
| 02:36.51 | tlund | Cairenn: actually, it is. :) |
| 02:36.56 | Cairenn | it is - in Rome ;) |
| 02:36.59 | tlund | Cairenn: and i should be asleep :( |
| 02:37.06 | Cairenn | amongst other places |
| 02:37.07 | tlund | is in sweden :) |
| 02:37.10 | tlund | gnite. |
| 02:41.59 | Cairenn | buona notte |
| 02:42.11 | Nechckn | Wow, Cairenn your daughter is lucky, then.. impressive. |
| 02:42.26 | bleeter | Nechckn: course she's lucky, she's got Cairenn as a mum! DOH! :P |
| 02:42.31 | Nechckn | cannot wait for the details |
| 02:42.32 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:42.41 | Nechckn | Ha... good point, woolie |
| 02:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | She puts up with y'all (and me!) so she's gotta be made of awesome. |
| 02:43.53 | Cairenn | Nechckn: last summer she was on a dig in South Shields (NE coast of England, almost on Scottish border) |
| 02:44.11 | Cairenn | she's studying to be an archaeologist, so this is wonderful hands on experience for her |
| 02:44.25 | bleeter | Nechckn: I think it's interesting that the daughter of an MMO junkie is after RL shinies ;) |
| 02:45.03 | Nechckn | Is it through university, Cairenn? |
| 02:46.30 | Cairenn | She looks at all of it from a slightly different view than many [think of when they hear 'archaeologist'] though. She's studying for Cultural Archaeology, not like paleontology (dinosaurs, etc) or whatever |
| 02:46.41 | Nechckn | my friend went to Cornell and Harvard studying that sort of stuff.. "classics" as they put it. |
| 02:46.49 | Cairenn | Nechckn: no, she's doing it as volunteer work through Earthwatch |
| 02:47.05 | Cairenn | she gets to pay for the privilege ;) |
| 02:47.09 | Nechckn | Ah, very cool |
| 02:47.19 | Cairenn | http://www.earthwatch.org/default.aspx |
| 02:47.23 | Cairenn | those guys ^^ |
| 02:47.49 | Nechckn | well, if that is what she wants to do, I guess sometimes the experience is worth the price of admission =) |
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| 02:48.18 | Nechckn | Ah... now that we're talking, I sort of remember you mentioning something about that last year. |
| 02:48.26 | Cairenn | :) |
| 02:48.29 | Nechckn | thinks it was you, anyway. |
| 02:48.31 | tem | I feel like we're doing something really wrong in phase 3 |
| 02:49.07 | Cairenn | Nechckn: like your friend, her underdegree is "classics" |
| 02:49.28 | Cairenn | but her masters & doctorate will be archaeology |
| 02:49.54 | Cairenn | unless she moves to a country that has an actual archaeology underdegree (Australia for one) |
| 02:49.58 | Nechckn | gotcha, I'll have to pass that along. It's funny, he works in IT now, of all darn things. |
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| 02:55.08 | Speeddymon | anyone familiar with 3.2 code changes, specifically ones regarding the script errors popup? |
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| 03:17.52 | durcyn | Speeddymon: it's blizzard's clone of devtools, what about it |
| 03:19.13 | Speeddymon | well im getting an error from somewhere and i cant figure out where.. |
| 03:19.23 | Speeddymon | http://paste.curseforge.com/833/ |
| 03:20.02 | Arrowmaster | its coming from questhelper |
| 03:20.25 | Speeddymon | i thought that too |
| 03:20.37 | Speeddymon | but i checked for "ScriptErrors" in all files in questhelper and nothing comes back |
| 03:20.46 | Arrowmaster | ignore that |
| 03:21.11 | Speeddymon | ok so what function is causing it then? |
| 03:21.23 | Speeddymon | QuestHelper_ErrorCatcher_ExplicitError() ? |
| 03:22.46 | Arrowmaster | are you possitive questhelper doesnt have ScriptErrors anywhere in it? |
| 03:22.50 | Lopeppeppy | You could post the text of the error up for Zorba on the download page, see if he's seen it yet... |
| 03:23.27 | Speeddymon | I'll disable questhelper right now, one sec |
| 03:24.51 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: this is on the ptr right? |
| 03:25.28 | Speeddymon | yes |
| 03:26.32 | Speeddymon | ok it is coming from questhelper i think... oddly enough after i disable questhelper, a swatter error i was having goes away as does the one i pasted, but a bartender error appears.. |
| 03:26.37 | Speeddymon | one that i havent seen before |
| 03:27.09 | Arrowmaster | well everything from the error you pasted was from questhelper so ofcourse it would go away |
| 03:29.06 | Speeddymon | ok so here's the thing.. im trying to actually fix the addons im getting errors with to help out the authors and maintainers .. sure its not required but any guess what's causing that error? |
| 03:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | Errors. That's the problem, it's multiple errors. |
| 03:29.39 | Arrowmaster | i have a good idea what is |
| 03:29.44 | Lopeppeppy | You'll have to enable things one by one to see which addons are causing what, it's so much fun! |
| 03:29.57 | Arrowmaster | but really you should use bugsack imho |
| 03:30.09 | Arrowmaster | the builtin error catcher is broken to hell |
| 03:30.19 | Speeddymon | i dont use the builtin |
| 03:30.21 | Speeddymon | i use swatter |
| 03:30.33 | Arrowmaster | yes you do |
| 03:30.46 | Arrowmaster | i can tell right away that the error you posted was from the builtin one |
| 03:31.00 | Speeddymon | no, it was from swatter.. the addon included with dev versions of auctioneer |
| 03:31.48 | Speeddymon | ill install bugsack if you think it'll provide more information |
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| 03:32.57 | Lopeppeppy | It usually does. |
| 03:33.02 | Speeddymon | ok 2 mins |
| 03:33.15 | Arrowmaster | i hate swatter output |
| 03:37.14 | Speeddymon | ok installed, loading up now |
| 03:38.44 | Arrowmaster | try and do /run message("test") |
| 03:38.51 | Speeddymon | ok first one is easily fixable, QH is calling GetVirtualMapZones |
| 03:38.58 | Speeddymon | that's been changed |
| 03:39.02 | Speeddymon | i know that and ill fix that |
| 03:39.28 | Speeddymon | the next one is astrolabeqh .. go figure.. i hate that he modified astrolave |
| 03:39.31 | Speeddymon | astrolabe* |
| 03:41.16 | Speeddymon | the next 2 are from either bartender or ace3 .. i cant tell which... |
| 03:41.26 | Arrowmaster | its a blizzard problem |
| 03:41.41 | Arrowmaster | they totally fucked up |
| 03:41.47 | Speeddymon | and then some more from astrolabe.. |
| 03:41.51 | Speeddymon | which is? |
| 03:42.23 | Speeddymon | which is a blizzard problem? |
| 03:43.16 | Arrowmaster | they removed the ScriptErrors frame and replaced it with BasicScriptErrors but didnt even touch the message() function |
| 03:43.21 | Arrowmaster | aka they fucked it up to hell |
| 03:43.41 | Speeddymon | yea i noticed that too |
| 03:43.45 | Lopeppeppy | Has that already been tossed into the bug reports/PTR reports? |
| 03:43.47 | Arrowmaster | then entire new _ERRORMESSAGE() function is fucked up anyway |
| 03:44.10 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: theres too many issues to report imho, the entire change needs redone |
| 03:44.36 | Speeddymon | actually ScriptErrors_Message is replaced with BasicScriptErrorsText or something similar judging by the xml code further down |
| 03:45.04 | Speeddymon | but it doesnt change the fact that all of the above is true |
| 03:45.12 | Arrowmaster | BasicControls.xml needs to fucking die just because its xml |
| 03:45.23 | Arrowmaster | the error logs are fucking useless because its xml |
| 03:47.43 | Speeddymon | lol |
| 03:48.17 | Arrowmaster | so i just saw transformers2, little RC truck humping megan fox's leg = win |
| 03:48.39 | Speeddymon | i was going to go see that but it was friggin sold out |
| 03:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | That might be the only redeeming quality of the movie that I've heard about, Arrowmaster. |
| 03:50.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:51.02 | Arrowmaster | it was good |
| 03:51.22 | Arrowmaster | the critics are just idiots |
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| 03:53.06 | Lopeppeppy | I can't imagine those two jive bots as being in any way positive. |
| 03:53.24 | Arrowmaster | they were funny |
| 03:54.03 | Lopeppeppy | I don't doubt it, but they sound pretty wrong at the same time. I'd watch it for the robots myself, but a bit higher standard would be nice. |
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| 04:31.14 | Speeddymon | whats the addon install location for vista? |
| 04:31.28 | Speeddymon | (i dont use vista so i have no clue but i know its not in program files) |
| 04:31.51 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14650 |
| 04:33.32 | Dagmar | The fun thing is that it's probably the same location as before, but with DANGEROUS CAVEATS |
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| 04:34.10 | Speeddymon | ya |
| 04:35.11 | Cairenn | tacklehugs widgertick |
| 04:35.17 | Dagmar | I *would* say just get MMOUI Minion since it can guess correctly, but that somewhat depends on whether or not you like Healbot. ;) |
| 04:35.25 | widgertick | Heya Cairenn :) |
| 04:35.45 | Cairenn | ciao widger! |
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| 05:03.08 | Cairenn | buona notte a tutti! |
| 05:04.42 | Adys | bonne nuit Cairenn|afk |
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| 06:03.20 | Shirik | sooooo |
| 06:03.26 | Shirik | lightroom taking 90% CPU and 3 GB of memory |
| 06:03.26 | Shirik | win |
| 06:30.16 | Nechckn | use Aperture ? ;-) |
| 06:35.03 | bleeter | cog|away: oO were you already a member of the FB FSM group? damn, I just wasted an invite, then ;) |
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| 06:47.13 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:48.19 | Fisker | stop being so Shirik |
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| 06:49.59 | Fisker | runs over Shirik |
| 06:50.05 | bleeter | slaps Fisker around with a stoned wallaby |
| 06:50.45 | Guillotine | ~whalenuke Fisker, Bleeter, and Shirik |
| 06:50.45 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker, Bleeter, and Shirik with his mind powers. |
| 06:50.51 | Shirik | :( |
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| 06:51.27 | bleeter | Shirik: so if I fail getting Trogdor into WoW, should I aim for getting the Flying Spaghetti Monster into it? |
| 06:52.04 | bleeter | FSM could be trickier as vendors would need to start selling noodly stuffs |
| 06:52.18 | bleeter | ~whaleparry Guillotine |
| 06:52.18 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Guillotine's attacks. |
| 06:52.24 | Fisker | hey bleeter |
| 06:52.28 | Fisker | i'm bored :( |
| 06:52.43 | bleeter | hi fisker, i'm going through caffiene withdrawl |
| 06:52.52 | bleeter | so I'm even more annoying than usual |
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| 06:54.01 | Fisker | !care(); |
| 06:54.46 | Fisker | i want to play starcraft 2 |
| 06:55.10 | bleeter | i'm starting to think i'm bored with SC2 and would like D3 |
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| 06:58.19 | bleeter | mmmm noodles |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | bleeter.... what? |
| 06:58.40 | bleeter | Shirik: wat? |
| 06:58.48 | Shirik | trogdor, FSM,? |
| 06:59.37 | bleeter | you don't know Trogdor or FSM? |
| 07:00.15 | Spellbinder | xchat follows with Ubuntu yes? |
| 07:01.26 | bleeter | wut |
| 07:01.58 | Aqua | brand new cisco router for 100 bucks, hmmm, i want one! |
| 07:04.20 | Guillotine | Spellbinder: Well, there is definitely *a* chat client named "XChat" in the repositories. Not sure if it's the same one used on Windows. Though I would really recommend Pidgin. With the "IRC Helper" plugin, it really makes a rather good IRC client. |
| 07:05.31 | Spellbinder | sweet thx Guillotine |
| 07:05.52 | Guillotine | Also, I just plain love being able to use one app for all my chat protocols XD |
| 07:07.17 | Arrowmaster | what the hell does the "irc helper" plugin do? by default its one of the worst irc clients ive ever used |
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| 07:09.53 | bleeter | Guillotine: you know the guys who wrote the IRC helper plugin are a bunch of idiots!! <<>> |
| 07:10.16 | Shadowed | ~seen pastamancer |
| 07:10.17 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #curseforge, last said: 'haha'. |
| 07:10.19 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: pidgin by default is fairly junky at IRC, we all pretty much use irssi. |
| 07:10.21 | Shadowed | :< |
| 07:10.35 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: any 'fancy' stuff we really need, we write plugins |
| 07:11.12 | bleeter | hence irc helper, irc more, irrsi features, join/part hiding etc. plugins from those idiots @ guifications.org |
| 07:11.16 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: i still use mirc, although i customized it perty heavyly with my own scripts like 10 years ago |
| 07:12.22 | bleeter | Spellbinder, Guillotine: I think the WIndows XChat is XChat using Windows GTK magics, so liable to break n stuff.. though they may have mamanged to get a native UI 'recently', no idea |
| 07:13.18 | Spellbinder | i used xchat in red hat in 2000, its similaire to mIRC, but thats it |
| 07:13.53 | bleeter | would be happy if every IRC RFC breaking app would go DIAF |
| 07:14.27 | bleeter | would rather work at totally reverse engineering close protocols than working out what some IRC clients do.. ugh |
| 07:14.31 | bleeter | closed |
| 07:14.49 | Guillotine | I would agree that Pidgin probably isn't the best app if all you want is IRC. But I happen to use it for everything else, and it certainly isn't a bad IRC client with the plugins |
| 07:15.28 | Arrowmaster | i tried to see if i could switch to xchat-2 not long ago but i found out that its scripting capibilities are extremely limited with what can be done to the gui |
| 07:16.08 | bleeter | that's about it.. and the cuteness factor of just taking your prefs files over to any other machine that can run pidgin and it 'just works' without having to re-set up all your accounts, etc. that's dang cool if you have lotsa computers, or move around a lot etc. |
| 07:16.27 | Spellbinder | :) |
| 07:16.34 | bleeter | it's certainly a better IRC client, thanks to those plugins, than ~5 years ago |
| 07:16.36 | Guillotine | *nod* especially cross-platform |
| 07:16.57 | Spellbinder | i only heard good things about pidgin though, but i can only use mIRC, it makes me do whatever i want |
| 07:17.03 | Guillotine | Even better: If you're dual booting, set up the settings to be saved in a shared directory |
| 07:17.12 | bleeter | and with finch terminal app, yeah, it's nice... pity about the gstreamer stuff foo.. ugh. maybe one day |
| 07:17.13 | Spellbinder | hehe Guillotine |
| 07:17.44 | bleeter | Guillotine: oh god yes the multi boot scenario and still having access to chat logs in any OS |
| 07:18.06 | bleeter | mind you, it's UI for searching chat logs sucks hehe |
| 07:18.32 | Guillotine | It certainly isn't the greatest. But yay for grep! |
| 07:18.35 | bleeter | grim and I got as far as the regex matching in the debug log, then we were all 'meh, over this'.. we had such plans |
| 07:19.25 | bleeter | mainly came unstuck when we realised how painful it was going to be to implement in Win32 |
| 07:23.05 | Guillotine | Another thing I love about Pidgin is the way I can have it blink my "thinkpad" keyboard light when I get a message. So much better than sounds when you're playing a game |
| 07:25.42 | Shirik | wqI do bleeter |
| 07:25.50 | Shirik | I'm just trying to figure out the wow relation |
| 07:26.32 | bleeter | Shirik: Trogdor was a man.. he was a ... dragon man |
| 07:26.34 | bleeter | ie, dragons |
| 07:27.14 | bleeter | and... Flying Spaghetti Monster has associations with pirates... eg, pirate day. should have lots of pasta available for purchase |
| 07:27.44 | bleeter | Shirik: and you cannot deny that such logic makes any less sense than other recent plot lines in game ;) |
| 07:29.14 | bleeter | Guillotine: would you believe, though, that there was some tool in #pidgin today begging people to write him a plugin that would beep for him everytime someone typed a letter?? |
| 07:29.49 | bleeter | Guillotine: if you think gamers can be brain dead, I encourage you to spend a week in Instant Messaging support ;) |
| 07:31.45 | bleeter | I swear I'm 'the way I am' 'coz I spent 4 years in #pidgin... 8-| lol |
| 07:39.11 | bleeter | Shirik: I can see my enormous brain and intellectual powers of logic vis a vis Trogdor and FSM have rendered you speechless again, so I'll bugger off :P |
| 07:39.33 | bleeter | still think there should be noodles sold on pirate day |
| 07:44.27 | bleeter | Shirik: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031058686&sid=1 |
| 07:45.51 | Fisker | this is why we can't have nice things bleeter |
| 07:47.06 | bleeter | Fisker: wut? |
| 07:49.00 | Fisker | FSM |
| 07:50.50 | bleeter | oh i thought it was cuz of my crap personality |
| 07:54.17 | ZorbaBeta | speeddymon, the immediate problem is that questhelper is calling message() which is somehow crashing |
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| 07:55.12 | iplap | what is this? |
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| 08:52.21 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: because blizzard fucked up majorly and message() is 100% broken on ptr |
| 08:56.05 | jnwhiteh | any ptr patches? |
| 09:01.07 | Adys | nop |
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| 09:06.34 | Syncness | oh haii derr |
| 09:06.57 | Syncness | Quick question: Is there an addon that allows me to target specific raid icons? |
| 09:07.08 | Adys | no, it cannot be done |
| 09:07.15 | Syncness | Like, a skull on my screen, and it will target {skull} |
| 09:07.17 | Syncness | :O ok. |
| 09:07.22 | Syncness | What would be the closest thing? |
| 09:07.26 | Adys | (restricted on purpose by blizzard) |
| 09:07.29 | Adys | uhm |
| 09:07.43 | Adys | you can always tweak focus targets a bit |
| 09:07.55 | Syncness | ? |
| 09:08.22 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.36 | Syncness | Hmm, my scenario is like on trash |
| 09:08.40 | Syncness | There's skull, x etc etc |
| 09:08.48 | Syncness | after skull dies, I normally press tab to x |
| 09:08.59 | Syncness | but when tabbing, I might tab to the sheep target, and autoshoot might break it |
| 09:09.23 | Adys | there are addons to keep autoshot off sheep etc |
| 09:09.38 | Syncness | :O!!!! |
| 09:09.41 | Adys | you're more likely to get what you want in this area |
| 09:09.41 | Syncness | Name please! |
| 09:09.51 | Adys | no idea sorry, but do browse wowinterface |
| 09:09.59 | Syncness | Any keywords I should... attempt? |
| 09:10.10 | Cruciformer | "prevent autoshot" |
| 09:10.17 | Cruciformer | would be my guess |
| 09:10.17 | Adys | iirc theres a raid addon category, look in there |
| 09:10.29 | Syncness | Thanks, |
| 09:11.17 | Syncness | I think I just understood the topic joke, |
| 09:13.45 | Adys | I hate harddrives |
| 09:14.17 | Cruciformer | why? what happened? |
| 09:14.55 | Adys | they're slow |
| 09:15.05 | Cruciformer | doyou use raid? |
| 09:15.19 | Adys | no, I dont even raid in wow |
| 09:15.25 | Syncness | nope |
| 09:15.27 | Syncness | can't find it |
| 09:15.36 | Cruciformer | Syncness: try google. |
| 09:15.47 | Syncness | am |
| 09:16.10 | Adys | I'll switch to a ssd as soon as 256s are under 400 usd |
| 09:16.11 | Cruciformer | Adys: get a SSD then, they're fast. |
| 09:16.19 | Cruciformer | heh mind reader :P |
| 09:16.28 | Adys | no, captain obvious classes |
| 09:16.59 | Syncness | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=12? |
| 09:17.01 | Adys | no but really HDs suck |
| 09:17.02 | Syncness | Looks close |
| 09:17.50 | End | Syncness: that addon was broken a long long time ago |
| 09:18.01 | Syncness | Dang D: |
| 09:18.04 | End | I'm not sure why it says compatible with wotlk |
| 09:18.05 | Syncness | Any other suggestions? |
| 09:18.20 | Syncness | if target has polymorph debuff, toggle autoshot |
| 09:18.24 | Syncness | or something similiar. |
| 09:18.44 | End | you can't have an addon or macro use that sort of logic |
| 09:18.56 | End | you might be able to turn autoshot off when you tab target though |
| 09:19.05 | Syncness | Hmm |
| 09:19.23 | End | (I'm not even sure you can do that, but that's probably the best you could get) |
| 09:20.32 | Syncness | Oh well... |
| 09:21.10 | Nitra | Just bind tab to a macro something like "/stopattack /targetenemy" |
| 09:21.26 | Syncness | Smart! |
| 09:21.37 | End | is there a /stopattack? |
| 09:21.46 | Nitra | wowwiki says so |
| 09:21.51 | End | well, that was the only part I was unsure of |
| 09:21.54 | End | so there you go |
| 09:22.02 | Syncness | Thanks |
| 09:22.26 | Nitra | MIght be a UI option to stop autoattack automatically when you switch target, check the options |
| 09:27.03 | Syncness | Thanks guys, |
| 09:27.06 | Syncness | I'm out |
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| 09:27.45 | Nitra | Yep, under Interface -> Combat there is "Stop Auto Attack" "Stop auto attacking when you switch targets." a checkbox |
| 09:29.31 | Taroven | Got a somewhat basic question... |
| 09:29.49 | Taroven | Actually, lemme write some example code for it |
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| 09:33.09 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116826 |
| 09:33.46 | Taroven | Is there any actual performance benefit from writing an onupdate like that, or is it more personal preference? |
| 09:34.05 | jnwhiteh | what do you mean? |
| 09:34.23 | jnwhiteh | its a standard OnUpdate.. how else would you write it? |
| 09:34.55 | jnwhiteh | and that is actually a pretty inefficient onupdate |
| 09:35.05 | Taroven | *shrug* Just strikes me as odd that the onupdate function would be written within the enabler function |
| 09:35.26 | jnwhiteh | well that doesn't change the performance at all |
| 09:35.32 | jnwhiteh | its just not created and set until that point |
| 09:35.48 | jnwhiteh | but that function should not be doing the unit check there, even if that's the most likely case. |
| 09:36.02 | jnwhiteh | since it doesn't take any action until the throttle timer has passed |
| 09:36.07 | jnwhiteh | it should check for the unit there |
| 09:36.12 | jnwhiteh | and if the unit exists, calls the event |
| 09:36.16 | jnwhiteh | that would be "better" |
| 09:36.51 | Taroven | Had the same thought myself. I'm just trying to figure out how I was gonna write a couple funcs in my own addon, thought I'd poke around a bit with haste's code. |
| 09:37.16 | jnwhiteh | dont use haste's code |
| 09:37.19 | Taroven | Heh |
| 09:37.20 | jnwhiteh | he has teh weirdest coding style |
| 09:37.23 | jnwhiteh | i mean it =) |
| 09:37.25 | Taroven | I've noticed. |
| 09:37.36 | jnwhiteh | he uses features because he's lazy or likes the way they look |
| 09:38.19 | jnwhiteh | he's obsessed with func 'Foo' |
| 09:38.22 | jnwhiteh | for no good reason=) |
| 09:38.37 | Taroven | I'm really just trying to figure out a better way to register/unregister events for this. |
| 09:38.38 | Taroven | Heh |
| 09:38.52 | Taroven | Familiar with EventHorizon? |
| 09:38.54 | jnwhiteh | what is "this" |
| 09:38.57 | jnwhiteh | i've seen it, yes. |
| 09:39.03 | Adys | features are coded FOR laziness |
| 09:39.06 | Adys | but |
| 09:39.07 | Adys | yeah |
| 09:39.14 | Adys | liking the way they look is kinda awkward. |
| 09:39.14 | jnwhiteh | Adys: not in the case of Lua, they're not. |
| 09:39.23 | jnwhiteh | the history explicitly shows that |
| 09:39.26 | Taroven | I'm completely rewriting EH atm to handle multiple bar frames and some other goodness |
| 09:39.33 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: ok |
| 09:39.42 | Adys | but raw lua is horribly inconvenient :P |
| 09:39.46 | Taroven | Trying to figure out the best way to handle event registration and unregistration. |
| 09:39.51 | jnwhiteh | Adys: huh? |
| 09:40.32 | Taroven | What I'd like to do is register events in a single frame and unregister unused events as needed |
| 09:41.03 | Taroven | Easy enough when dealing with one object, but the idea is 10+ bars over possibly multiple bar frames |
| 09:42.08 | Taroven | I figure it's prolly more efficient to register events under a single frame and call everything needed at once than have 10 frames watching the same combatlog/UI event for the same thing |
| 09:42.36 | jnwhiteh | don't prematurely optimize |
| 09:42.39 | jnwhiteh | either works just fine |
| 09:42.50 | jnwhiteh | either you have to write your own dispatch loop |
| 09:42.54 | jnwhiteh | or you let the UI do that for you |
| 09:43.01 | Taroven | Yeah. |
| 09:43.03 | jnwhiteh | there is a difference, but its minimal |
| 09:43.11 | jnwhiteh | do what maks the most sense organizational/coding |
| 09:43.28 | Taroven | Which would be to do everything individually, to me at least |
| 09:43.35 | jnwhiteh | thend o that |
| 09:43.37 | jnwhiteh | then do that |
| 09:43.39 | jnwhiteh | even |
| 09:44.51 | Taroven | Yeesh, he DOES write weird code... |
| 09:45.04 | krka | the ui probably dispatches faster than your own code.. but if want to run some sort of setup before dispatching yourself, it might be better to dispatch from lua. but it really depends from case to case |
| 09:46.55 | jnwhiteh | krka: the point is, if you have 10 bars and you register once for an event and dispatch on your own you can save 9 function calls over blizard's dispatch |
| 09:47.04 | Taroven | local OnEvent = function(self, event, ...) ... Why not just do local function OnEvent(self,event,...) and save yer fingers? >.< |
| 09:47.16 | Taroven | That's the idea, jnwhiteh |
| 09:47.22 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: i would aviod that |
| 09:47.24 | Fisker | stabs jnwhiteh |
| 09:47.27 | jnwhiteh | you dont need to optimize that case |
| 09:47.36 | jnwhiteh | the API calls you are doing will dwarf any benefit you can hope to gain |
| 09:47.45 | jnwhiteh | simple is better in most cases |
| 09:47.51 | jnwhiteh | for what you're talking about, it's almost certain |
| 09:48.08 | Taroven | Shoulda said "that was", heh |
| 09:48.14 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 09:48.35 | Taroven | Sounded a little easier to deal with in the long run at first |
| 09:48.35 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: i like the anon-function style that haste uses there, I use it a bit as wel |
| 09:48.41 | jnwhiteh | just seems clearer to me |
| 09:48.43 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: its not =) |
| 09:48.46 | Taroven | I can see how. |
| 09:49.04 | Taroven | Heh, done deal then, no universal event registration then |
| 09:49.17 | krka | jnwhiteh: right, you have 9 fewer calls from the c-code, but 9 more calls from your own code |
| 09:49.39 | jnwhiteh | krka: not necessarily, you can avoid them with clever design |
| 09:49.40 | Taroven | krka: Explain? |
| 09:49.59 | jnwhiteh | if you just swap them out in the same program, of course |
| 09:50.07 | jnwhiteh | but that would be silly |
| 09:50.08 | krka | sure it depends on what your code actually does.. you can inline it all i suppose |
| 09:50.22 | jnwhiteh | my point is you _can_ do that if you code with a dispatch handler |
| 09:50.27 | jnwhiteh | you don't have that option if you don't. |
| 09:50.36 | jnwhiteh | but furthermore that level of optimization is almost always unnecessary |
| 09:50.40 | Taroven | It would make sense to register everything at once than 10 times when all 10 instances are watching the same event |
| 09:50.50 | jnwhiteh | Taroven: no, i disagree |
| 09:50.56 | jnwhiteh | it's not "better" |
| 09:51.23 | jnwhiteh | it just has the potential to optimize something out, which shouldn't really need to be |
| 09:56.28 | Shadowed | easier to debug when your events are in the frames they want rather than doing a central dispatcher too imo |
| 09:59.44 | bleeter | just a quick reminder, don't optimise too much. i know a couple of people who optimised themselves out of a job :P |
| 10:00.41 | Taroven | Rough. |
| 10:01.17 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.29 | Adys | I just had an idea floating in my head for a couple of days |
| 10:01.42 | Taroven | Adys: ? |
| 10:01.43 | Adys | and the more I think of it, the more kickass it is |
| 10:02.09 | Adys | For an embedded language, at the moment you're tied to the API coding style you're given |
| 10:02.41 | Adys | so if you have to use_lame_underscores() or followScrewedUpCamelCasing() |
| 10:03.30 | Fisker | giver jnwhiteh en 31108 |
| 10:03.39 | Adys | and I was thinking about a design that would leave the choice up to the user/dev |
| 10:03.46 | Taroven | ofWhichThePrependingLowercaseStrikesMeAsOdd() |
| 10:04.07 | Adys | in your API you define doSomethingCool() |
| 10:04.22 | Adys | in the public API, it's accessible as do_something_cool, doSomethingCool, so on |
| 10:04.32 | Taroven | That'd be pretty easy to do actually. |
| 10:05.09 | Taroven | And makes a lot of sense. |
| 10:05.10 | Adys | its the most awkward thing i've thought of for a while but it could work |
| 10:05.23 | Taroven | (well, to me at least) |
| 10:06.26 | Taroven | Now that I think of it, I'd actually love to see a lib that translates wow's api events to camelcase... |
| 10:06.46 | Taroven | For absolutely no other reason than "because it could be done". |
| 10:06.46 | Adys | camelcase is for methods, suck it up |
| 10:06.53 | Taroven | Heh |
| 10:07.44 | Taroven | That reminds me, been wondering... |
| 10:09.02 | Taroven | What's the actual difference between Addon:Foo(bar) and Addon.Foo(bar) when dealing with an addon that deals mostly in table funcs? |
| 10:09.15 | Adys | you pass self with :Foo |
| 10:09.26 | Adys | Addon:Foo(bar) == Addon.Foo(self, bar) |
| 10:09.38 | Taroven | Interesting. |
| 10:13.56 | Taroven | And since it's 6am and I'm really tired, self = object that called the method? |
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| 10:14.36 | Taroven | (never been too clear on the whole self/this vs direct reference thing) |
| 10:14.37 | Cruciformer | question: I am looking for some type of hash that is not sensitive to the order in which it got data. So for example, if I hash a,b it will return the same result as b,a, becuase in both cases both a and b were present. Is there any such thing commonly used? |
| 10:15.07 | Taroven | Cruciformer: "..." |
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| 10:15.16 | Taroven | (first guess) |
| 10:15.23 | Cruciformer | eh? |
| 10:15.57 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116828 |
| 10:16.22 | Taroven | Unless I read the question wrong, something like that might do it |
| 10:16.36 | Cruciformer | You mis-understood the question. |
| 10:16.43 | Taroven | Prolly, it's early here. |
| 10:16.49 | Cruciformer | Something like MD5 or CRC are sensitive to the order in which they receive data |
| 10:16.56 | Taroven | Ah. |
| 10:17.06 | Cruciformer | so if I pass "a,b" through MD5 I get a different hash to if I pass "b,a" |
| 10:17.17 | Fisker | why not pass a and then b? |
| 10:17.41 | haste | Cruciformer: you could sort it :DRrrrrr |
| 10:17.41 | Cruciformer | I can receieve the events in any order. However, I want a reliable way to know if two uses have received the same set of events |
| 10:17.58 | Cruciformer | (and I am not talking about game events here btw) |
| 10:18.29 | haste | I don't think there's a hash like that tho' |
| 10:18.38 | haste | so you would have to implenent someting yourself |
| 10:18.46 | haste | what you want kinda defeats the purpose of a hash |
| 10:18.52 | Cruciformer | I cant sort it, then I have to keep history, and I don't want to do that. I want to keep a running hash going, and if two users have the same hash key then I know they have both received, in whatever order, the same data. |
| 10:19.41 | haste | and you can't use a table to store the events either? |
| 10:20.06 | Cruciformer | that would get unnessesarily(sp?) bloated. there could be a lot of events. |
| 10:20.06 | batbot | Cruciformer, nothing found. |
| 10:20.24 | Taroven | Cruciformer: Unnecessarily. =P |
| 10:20.37 | Cruciformer | ty :) |
| 10:20.41 | Taroven | =P |
| 10:21.14 | haste | Cruciformer: well, I would say it's the best solution in this case |
| 10:21.22 | haste | tables aren't exactly large |
| 10:21.54 | Taroven | Store table -> order table -> hash table? |
| 10:22.26 | haste | do note that you mentioned md5 |
| 10:22.37 | haste | and popping md5s is kinda resource intensive :p |
| 10:22.43 | haste | at least compared to tables |
| 10:22.44 | Cruciformer | this is for syncing data between multiple users. Using tables doesn't scale. If I have to store a table for 20 or 30 users or even 200 users in a guild or whatever, each which repeats the data, that can get big, no matter how well designed the table is. |
| 10:23.34 | haste | I think you make this more complicated than it is |
| 10:23.40 | Fisker | haste |
| 10:23.45 | Cruciformer | Im sure ther emust be some sort of order-independant hash out there. I'll go look. Fiogured Id ask here first since theres live humans here who are smart. |
| 10:23.46 | haste | but I'm not entirely sure what you're writing on |
| 10:23.50 | Fisker | jeg kan ikke svømme |
| 10:24.02 | haste | Fisker: ikke jeg heller! LOL |
| 10:24.34 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:24.38 | Fisker | *blub* |
| 10:25.21 | Taroven | Cruciformer: I |
| 10:25.23 | Taroven | grr |
| 10:25.33 | haste | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric-key_algorithm is probably what you want then |
| 10:25.43 | Taroven | I'd say just hash each piece as it comes/goes, but with a lot of data, that'd suck. |
| 10:26.02 | haste | you'll most likely have to implement it yourself :) |
| 10:26.35 | Cruciformer | ooh ty haste at least I know the word they use for it now - symetric ... thank you. |
| 10:28.32 | Arrowmaster | Cruciformer: i doubt that will help since symmetric key algorithms usually increase the size of the data not decrease it |
| 10:28.58 | Taroven | eyeballs the clock. |
| 10:29.07 | Taroven | decides that bed == good. |
| 10:30.27 | Cruciformer | Arrowmaster: But thers a difference between symetric encryption and symetric hashing. A hash can just be a single running value that changes as data is fed into it. |
| 10:31.22 | Adys | if hashing isnt sort-sensitive it defeats its own point |
| 10:31.27 | Adys | i dont get what you're trying to do |
| 10:31.45 | Arrowmaster | a hash by definition is asymetric |
| 10:32.17 | Cruciformer | Adys: what I am trying to do is simple. I want to ensure that users A and B got the same set of events. The events can arrive in any order. I want to avoid storing the fulllist of events that A and B receieved in order to determine this. |
| 10:33.06 | Cruciformer | Ok maybe the word "hash" is throwing things off. By "hash" I mean "any algorithm that takes a block of data as input and computes a single result number that was affected by the input data". |
| 10:33.37 | Cruciformer | So if the algoithm was simple addition, 1+2 == 2+1 |
| 10:33.55 | Arrowmaster | i can do that easily but not with any guarenty of the collision rate |
| 10:33.57 | Adys | to me it sounds like you could easily create your own algorithm for this |
| 10:34.18 | haste | Taroven: but... but... |
| 10:34.23 | haste | lua> bed == bad |
| 10:34.23 | lua_bot | haste: true |
| 10:34.32 | Cruciformer | Adys: I probably can I just wanted to know if ther was any "common" algorithm used for this sort of thing. |
| 10:34.51 | Adys | if you have to ask, odds are theres no common way to do it |
| 10:35.13 | krka | i'd do some sort of xor on the hashes of the individual inputs |
| 10:35.55 | Cruciformer | krka: You read my mind exactly :) CRC32 the individual blocks of input and xor each CRC together. |
| 10:36.38 | Cruciformer | and crc32 is really quick and easy to calculate |
| 10:37.05 | Cruciformer | and I already have a Lua CRC32 function. I'll just do that then. |
| 10:38.14 | cbreak | crc is not a good hash |
| 10:39.20 | krka | any hash and any associative function would work |
| 10:46.42 | krka | err sorry |
| 10:46.45 | krka | i meant communitative |
| 10:47.37 | krka | err... commutative :) |
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| 10:48.15 | Cruciformer | I got what you meant good sir :) |
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| 12:04.49 | Bruners | haste: i need sum help |
| 12:04.50 | Bruners | http://pastey.net/116832 why am i getting nil error on 'i' on line 68 |
| 12:08.20 | haste | Bruners: because db.i equals db['i'] |
| 12:08.42 | WobNet | this ^ |
| 12:08.53 | WobNet | not db[i] |
| 12:22.16 | Bruners | silly tables are silly |
| 12:22.30 | amro | tables are awesome |
| 12:22.54 | haste | tables are awesome |
| 12:22.56 | Bruners | not when your not sure how to use them properly |
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| 12:24.23 | Bruners | haste: now why is it making buttons for minimapicon and db when i told it not to?:P |
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| 12:39.47 | haste | Bruners: because i ~= "minimapicon" or i ~= "db" will always return true |
| 12:39.53 | WobNet | it's achieved sentinence |
| 12:40.00 | WobNet | soon it will take over the world |
| 12:40.15 | bluspacecow | skynet ? |
| 12:41.34 | Bruners | haste: yeah, got it answered on #wowace already, thanks anyway :) |
| 12:41.48 | haste | I was busy raid leading :p |
| 12:42.01 | bluspacecow | the fridge ? |
| 12:42.11 | haste | no, ulduar25 |
| 12:42.32 | bluspacecow | funny name for a fridge |
| 12:43.25 | haste | I don't have a fridge you, insesitive clod! |
| 12:43.25 | bluspacecow | rofls |
| 12:43.25 | bluspacecow | impoosible ! |
| 12:43.26 | bluspacecow | like saying you dont have a toilet ! |
| 12:43.41 | haste | so possible! |
| 12:43.47 | haste | I fish my dinner everyday |
| 12:43.52 | bluspacecow | ::roll:: |
| 12:44.20 | haste | I also have to eat the scales and eyes to get all the nourishment |
| 12:44.45 | Bruners | haste: how much have you killed in uludar 25? |
| 12:45.02 | haste | only up to aru |
| 12:45.15 | haste | and up to general in 10-man |
| 12:45.20 | haste | casual guild >:3 |
| 12:45.34 | bluspacecow | abu ? you're raiding the quickie mart now ? |
| 12:45.37 | bluspacecow | just kidding :D |
| 12:45.41 | Bruners | sound about the same as amniths guild then |
| 12:45.53 | haste | that's because it's the same guild |
| 12:46.01 | bluspacecow | "please do not be feeding peanuts to my god" |
| 12:46.03 | Bruners | talking about the amnith amnith guild |
| 12:46.10 | Bruners | haste: voltage |
| 12:46.19 | haste | he's in cuddle vendor now :p |
| 12:46.20 | haste | same with luth |
| 12:46.40 | Bruners | i know :) |
| 12:47.07 | Bruners | what about mr steino ? |
| 12:47.16 | haste | he's in refusion |
| 12:48.10 | bluspacecow | wheres the boat from menthil harbor connect to in North Rend ? |
| 12:50.11 | WobNet | HF I think |
| 12:50.28 | WobNet | cause I'm fairly sure SW goes to BT |
| 12:50.44 | Nitra | Yeah, SW to BT, other to HF |
| 12:52.32 | bluspacecow | Stormwind goes to Borean Tundra ? |
| 12:52.35 | bluspacecow | kk ty guys |
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| 13:08.41 | WobNet | hm |
| 13:08.42 | WobNet | http://img199.imageshack.us/i/vlcsnap140588.png/ |
| 13:08.49 | WobNet | which movie is that from> |
| 13:08.55 | WobNet | that scene looks familiar |
| 13:11.22 | Zyndrome | it looks very familiar .. I've seen it, but can not possibly remember what movie it is |
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| 13:28.04 | bluspacecow | wobnet : looks like a scene from Fifth Element |
| 13:28.43 | Zyndrome | it is :< |
| 13:28.47 | WobNet | I'm vaugely recalling something about hotel rooms |
| 13:29.20 | bluspacecow | i recognise that garish Blue wall anywhere |
| 13:29.29 | bluspacecow | burns into your retina on a HD plasma tv |
| 13:29.59 | WobNet | hehe |
| 13:32.19 | Fisker | it's like me doing your mom bluspacecow |
| 13:32.26 | bluspacecow | rofls |
| 13:32.43 | WobNet | I think fisker even half naked would be retina burning |
| 13:33.03 | bluspacecow | you never told me you do pedicures and manicures |
| 13:33.07 | bluspacecow | Fisker |
| 13:33.22 | bluspacecow | she also tells me your an exellent massage therapist |
| 13:33.27 | bluspacecow | when can you do me ? |
| 13:43.07 | Fisker | :o |
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| 13:46.53 | Kraps | epic thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031098283&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 13:47.34 | Zyndrome | too little "pics or it didn't happen" replies |
| 13:47.55 | Kraps | possibly real, probably a troll, definitely pro |
| 13:51.38 | WobNet | omg |
| 13:51.48 | WobNet | The Man With Two Brains is on TV |
| 13:52.09 | Zyndrome | someone tell him the ass doesn't count |
| 13:52.10 | Zyndrome | ":(" |
| 13:56.25 | WobNet | and Magnum PI |
| 13:56.35 | WobNet | I'd almost forgotten the theme musi |
| 13:56.37 | WobNet | c |
| 14:09.35 | WobNet | hm, the sex ads have started |
| 14:09.39 | WobNet | it's clearly past midnight |
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| 14:21.09 | bluspacecow | HAI LOPEN |
| 14:22.49 | Cairenn|afk | Boungiorno a tutti |
| 14:23.08 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 14:23.13 | bluspacecow | do what now ? |
| 14:23.17 | Cairenn | good morning everyone ;) |
| 14:23.33 | bluspacecow | herro |
| 14:24.35 | bluspacecow | tell fisker he still owes me a massage and a manicure |
| 14:25.19 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, bluspacecow. Sadly, Fisker doesn't listen to me on matters of commerce. |
| 14:25.28 | Cairenn | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 14:25.49 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, lady. *huggle* |
| 14:25.58 | Cairenn | ciao bella! :) |
| 14:26.05 | Bruners | haste: wtb mitsugo repo |
| 14:26.28 | Lopeppeppy | WTB someone else to pack for me. Oh, and someone to find my authenticator in my trash hole of an apartment. :) |
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| 14:26.51 | bluspacecow | yeah ill pack for you |
| 14:27.07 | bluspacecow | *pulls out box of matchs , lights one tosses it in* |
| 14:27.15 | bluspacecow | *waits for it to burn down* |
| 14:27.24 | bluspacecow | *gathers ass into a plastic bag* |
| 14:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | Great, I'll bake cookies over the coals. Trust me... I'm tossing a LOT of stuff. :) |
| 14:27.26 | Fisker | what commerce? |
| 14:27.30 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:27.30 | bluspacecow | there yo go |
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| 14:27.55 | bluspacecow | >_< "gathers ASH into bag" |
| 14:28.03 | bluspacecow | not gathers ass into bag |
| 14:28.18 | bluspacecow | hai Mr Sixen |
| 14:30.07 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks Fisker, that was very nice of you. |
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| 15:00.06 | Bruners | hi Xinhuan |
| 15:00.15 | Kraps | buying infinite dust sucks |
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| 15:04.38 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 15:04.46 | Cairenn | hi Xinhuan :) |
| 15:04.52 | Lopeppeppy | Morning! |
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| 15:07.31 | Xinhuan | aren't you on vacation Cairenn? |
| 15:07.48 | Cairenn | got home late Friday night (early Saturday morning?) |
| 15:07.50 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:07.55 | Xinhuan | ah :) |
| 15:08.08 | Cairenn | missed you guys while I was gone |
| 15:08.15 | Lopeppeppy | *big eyes* |
| 15:08.27 | Xinhuan | *puppy eyes* |
| 15:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind, or forgotten! |
| 15:09.21 | bluspacecow | *fondles Cairenn* |
| 15:09.29 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 15:09.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 15:09.35 | Cairenn | hugs bluspacecow |
| 15:11.11 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:11.21 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 15:12.53 | Lopeppeppy | Do you want some more good karma, Fisker? *tease* |
| 15:13.17 | bluspacecow | does it include giving me a manicure ? |
| 15:14.12 | Cairenn | yeah, what's the deal with this whole massage and manicure thing? |
| 15:14.24 | Duman | whee |
| 15:14.45 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 15:14.49 | bluspacecow | running joke |
| 15:14.58 | bluspacecow | he made a coment about doing my mum |
| 15:15.13 | bluspacecow | i told him i didnt know he did pedicures and manicures |
| 15:15.26 | bluspacecow | and that my mum recommended him as a massage therapist |
| 15:15.29 | Cairenn | ah |
| 15:15.45 | Cairenn | gotcha :) |
| 15:16.11 | bluspacecow | *giggle* Dranei on a mechostrider |
| 15:16.25 | bluspacecow | female dranei that is |
| 15:16.29 | Fisker | rages |
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| 15:40.35 | p3lim | ~seen tekkub |
| 15:40.37 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 7h 58m 23s ago, saying: 'is Double-D not back from vacation?'. |
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| 15:43.56 | sacarasc | bluspacecow: That's how my female draenei has gotten around since she could get one. |
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| 16:27.14 | alestane | ...very quiet... |
| 16:27.23 | Lopeppeppy | AM NOT! RAWR! |
| 16:27.25 | Cairenn | shhhhh |
| 16:27.31 | Cruciformer | Sunday. Day of rest? |
| 16:27.38 | alestane | Cairenn! |
| 16:27.44 | Cairenn | alestane! |
| 16:27.50 | Cairenn | Ciao Bello! |
| 16:27.51 | bluspacecow | chicken ! |
| 16:27.53 | alestane | pounces Carienn once he lets Lopeppeppy up. |
| 16:27.55 | bluspacecow | avocado ! |
| 16:28.00 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:28.05 | Cairenn | huggles alestane |
| 16:28.09 | bluspacecow | cheese ! |
| 16:28.21 | bluspacecow | actually that sounds like a great sammich |
| 16:28.33 | Cruciformer | roast lamb with tzatziki sauce! |
| 16:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | Now I'm hungry. |
| 16:28.43 | Lopeppeppy | What's a tzatziki? |
| 16:28.55 | Cairenn | nummy |
| 16:28.56 | alestane | A cucumber and yoghurt sauce IIRC. |
| 16:29.10 | Cruciformer | I maybe spelling it incorrectly. Its that sauce the Greeks like to put on overing. Made of yoghurt, garlic and cucumber. |
| 16:29.14 | Lopeppeppy | Makes sense how it would wind up lamb-ized then. |
| 16:29.46 | bluspacecow | tzatziki is a special sauce Cruciformer makes |
| 16:29.48 | Cruciformer | alestane: dont forget the garlic :) |
| 16:30.18 | Cruciformer | I ctually do make a mean tatziki suace. its great for dipping french bread in too. |
| 16:30.31 | Cairenn | is verra good on soulvaki |
| 16:30.35 | Cruciformer | or roast potatoes |
| 16:30.42 | Cruciformer | Cairenn: amen! |
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| 16:30.48 | Cairenn | (sp?) |
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| 16:30.58 | Cruciformer | souvlaki |
| 16:30.59 | alestane | Souvlaki, I think. |
| 16:31.04 | Cruciformer | and on a yiro |
| 16:31.05 | Cairenn | yeah, that |
| 16:31.14 | Cruciformer | or Jiro as the americans would say |
| 16:31.21 | alestane | Speaking of which, didn't you just get back from the Mediterranean. |
| 16:31.29 | Cairenn | mmhmm :) |
| 16:31.43 | alestane | My impression was that it was spelled "gyro" and pronounced "yeero". |
| 16:31.44 | Cairenn | got back late friday night/early sat morning |
| 16:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | She's totally spoiled now. |
| 16:31.54 | Cairenn | I had such a fabulous time |
| 16:32.13 | Cairenn | I'm starting to try to do up a post about it now, since a bunch of people have asked about the trip |
| 16:32.17 | Cruciformer | alestane: it is certainly pronouced that way ... how to spell it I dont know. I was never good at converting greek to english spellings. |
| 16:32.59 | Cruciformer | gyro ... reminds me of my first gf. My nickname fo her was "gyroscope" because she was that self-centered. |
| 16:33.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:39.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sleepy. Needs more desserts. |
| 16:40.06 | Cairenn | gives Lopeppeppy some really scrumptious gelato |
| 16:40.35 | Cruciformer | what exactly IS gelato? Not sure Ive ever had it. |
| 16:40.44 | Cairenn | oh |
| 16:40.45 | Cairenn | my |
| 16:40.46 | Cairenn | god |
| 16:40.51 | bluspacecow | fancy ice cream |
| 16:40.57 | Cairenn | I had THE BEST gelato while I was there |
| 16:40.57 | bluspacecow | half frothy |
| 16:41.02 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: not even |
| 16:41.27 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelato |
| 16:41.41 | bluspacecow | "Gelato, or the plural gelati, is the Italian regional variant of ice cream. As" |
| 16:42.00 | Cairenn | the really good stuff (fruit based) doesn't have any cream or milk in it at all |
| 16:42.06 | Cairenn | it's all fruit with a bit of sugar |
| 16:42.26 | Cairenn | the strawberry I had over there, I was all but eating 3/4 frozen strawberries |
| 16:42.27 | alestane | So, more of a sorbet. |
| 16:42.46 | Cairenn | but you're correct, there are some that are milk/cream based, and those are much more like our ice cream |
| 16:43.25 | Cairenn | alestane: aye |
| 16:43.38 | Cairenn | "Gelato is typically made with fresh fruit or other ingredients such as chocolate (pure chocolate, flakes, chips, etc.), nuts, small confections or cookies, or biscuits. Gelato made with water and without dairy ingredients is known as sorbetto (also known as sorbet). Traditionally, milk-based gelato originated in northern Italy, while the fruit and water-based sorbetto came from the warmer parts of southern Italy." |
| 16:43.44 | Cruciformer | Since im freezing my manbits off ehre its hard to think of gelato as being something Id want right now :) |
| 16:44.20 | Cruciformer | its a whopping 4C here right now |
| 16:44.42 | Lopeppeppy | Gelato gooooood. |
| 16:44.47 | Lopeppeppy | And deserts are always good! |
| 16:45.26 | Cruciformer | my favourite dessert is still either tiramisu or a good (the way *I* define good) key lime pie or cheesecake. |
| 16:45.54 | Cruciformer | anf for a cheesecake to be good it must not be baked. |
| 16:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a simple girl. Cherry ice cream with chocolate magic shell. |
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| 16:51.34 | alestane | I has a fresh strawberry. |
| 16:51.53 | alestane | And cherries and blueberries in the fridge, steeping in Barenjager. |
| 16:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | ... grrrr. |
| 16:53.24 | Lopeppeppy | I am not to be lured into your wily trap. |
| 16:53.30 | alestane | What trap is this? |
| 16:53.42 | Lopeppeppy | That's my question. |
| 16:55.28 | Lukian | WTB Darkmoon Card: Death on US PTR pve. |
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| 16:57.53 | Kraps | wow causes sad thought process |
| 16:57.55 | Kraps | Mom: Hey you want to go with your brother to the Meadowlands Fair? |
| 16:57.56 | Kraps | Me (thinking) no>but if i say no everyone will be on my case>so?>meh, its something else to do, i guess leveling enchanting/dailies/instances can wait (aloud) yeah ok |
| 16:58.31 | Lopeppeppy | Always go enjoy sunshine while it lasts. |
| 16:58.46 | alestane | What is this sunshine of which you speak? |
| 16:59.00 | Lopeppeppy | Mine! Mine! |
| 16:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | Not for long, but for an hour or so, the sun's been out and jacking the hell out of the humidity. |
| 16:59.12 | Cruciformer | alestane: Its a skin-cancer inducing radiation to be avoided at all costs. |
| 17:00.12 | Kraps | Cruciformer: inorite |
| 17:01.07 | Cruciformer | sunshine is what all sane people use as a signal to return to bed. |
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| 17:02.18 | Kraps | i'm just reached 425 enchanting btw /flex |
| 17:02.44 | bluspacecow | oh right |
| 17:02.50 | bluspacecow | i think i see a bit of it |
| 17:02.54 | Kraps | 3500 gold > 800 gold |
| 17:02.54 | bluspacecow | might time to |
| 17:03.40 | Kraps | whats the point of the sun anyway, cant even look at it |
| 17:03.51 | Kraps | nerf the sun |
| 17:06.11 | bluspacecow | heat and light for the planet |
| 17:06.17 | bluspacecow | take it away and the planet dies |
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| 17:08.01 | Kraps | i thought all the hot air from QQers did that |
| 17:09.54 | Kraps | how do i stock up on dream shards, rolls, same as always? |
| 17:10.36 | Kraps | i cant need rares just because i need the shard eh? |
| 17:12.20 | Fisker | maintank just lost 42000 rep with raiders |
| 17:12.27 | Fisker | "Fusion punch has to be dispelled?" |
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| 17:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | You could also offer a gold buyout of the shards from an instance run. Some people who just auction them will take you up. |
| 17:19.31 | Lukian | WTB Darkmoon Card: Death on US PTR pve. |
| 17:20.05 | Lukian | Kraps, need if no one else does, if no one says anything about it (at the end) they are yours :> |
| 17:20.44 | alestane | Morning, Iriel. |
| 17:21.44 | Iriel | waves, morning |
| 17:22.25 | Kraps | Lukian: that can come back to bite you if you pug a lot :) |
| 17:22.51 | Lukian | Kraps, oh? |
| 17:22.54 | Lukian | I always pug |
| 17:23.02 | Cairenn | boungiorno bello, Iriel! |
| 17:23.14 | Adys | bonjour Cairenn |
| 17:23.22 | Cairenn | salut Adys :) |
| 17:23.56 | aesir | Practicing your Italienn Carienn? |
| 17:24.34 | Cairenn | it's funny, I am still using Italian for a number of things now that I'm home again, makes me chuckle when I catch it |
| 17:24.58 | Cairenn | particularly 'grazie' |
| 17:25.31 | aesir | My fambly is Italian. All I know of the language is spaghetti and Ferrari. |
| 17:25.49 | aesir | But I love them both dearly. |
| 17:26.38 | Cairenn | I was surprised how much of it I picked up while over there. I can say a few standard phrases, but I have to look up how to spell them mind you. ;) |
| 17:27.33 | bluspacecow | donde esta la pollo ? |
| 17:27.53 | alestane | Where is the chicken? |
| 17:28.29 | bluspacecow | woops thats spanish |
| 17:28.52 | alestane | I still have a screenshot somewhere of "El Pollo Grande <The Black Chicken of Death>" |
| 17:29.58 | Kraps | how do i make my lfw spam stand out? |
| 17:30.04 | End | I have a screenshot of a swarm of El Pollo Grande |
| 17:31.05 | bluspacecow | say you will offer sex leg as well |
| 17:31.11 | bluspacecow | everyone likes sex leg |
| 17:31.18 | aesir | Kraps: Taking out page 3 spreads in the Times. If it's engineering work, you can focus on the Tech Tuesday edition. Otherwise, probably Monday's Business section. |
| 17:31.41 | aesir | In WoW, you can /yell though. It shows up in red in my chat client. I hate it. |
| 17:32.44 | Kraps | what the is sex leg anyway? |
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| 17:33.57 | Cairenn | keylogger that kept being posted on the Blizz forums |
| 17:34.26 | Cairenn | "click here for pics of my gf. she has the sex leg." |
| 17:34.29 | Cairenn | etc |
| 17:36.29 | alestane | I finally made sense out of Nyxia's sig. |
| 17:36.38 | bluspacecow | ?? |
| 17:36.48 | alestane | Let me see if I can find it. |
| 17:36.53 | Kraps | people dont tip /rage |
| 17:39.04 | Kraps | Enchant Weapon - Blood Draining whoa cool |
| 17:41.37 | alestane | "Fallenman has gone emo because his wife was caught naked by satellite using a Wii sex toy while he was in an epic battle in Halaa where a ret pally wtfpwned him with 11k damage in one GCD! " |
| 17:42.22 | Dagmar | F**k anyone still playing EQ |
| 17:42.54 | Dagmar | Kraps: People not tipping is why I generally only deal in vellums |
| 17:43.24 | Dagmar | If they can't afford the 15% markup over cost, then clearly they need to get busy farming some money instead of begging for free enchants |
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| 17:46.44 | foxlit | Did they end up adding an event for completed talent set changes? |
| 17:47.23 | Taroven | foxlit: Yeah. |
| 17:47.44 | Taroven | PLAYER_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED if I recall. |
| 17:49.40 | jnwhiteh | !api TALENT_ |
| 17:49.40 | lua_bot | Found 8 possible results for 'TALENT_': PREVIEW_PET_TALENT_POINTS_CHANGED, INSPECT_TALENT_READY, PET_TALENT_UPDATE, CONFIRM_TALENT_WIPE, PREVIEW_TALENT_POINTS_CHANGED, PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE, ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED, PET_TALENT_POINTS_CHANGED |
| 17:49.51 | jnwhiteh | ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED |
| 17:49.52 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:50.02 | Taroven | I was close. =P |
| 17:50.20 | jnwhiteh | idd |
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| 17:53.59 | Fisker | OMG NERF UI |
| 17:54.09 | Fisker | can't believe they buffed it so signifcantly |
| 17:54.13 | Fisker | it's going to pwn me in arenas :( |
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| 17:54.29 | jnwhiteh | UI? |
| 17:58.20 | foxlit | Fisker, world objects pwn you in arenas. |
| 17:59.22 | bluspacecow | i need sleep |
| 18:02.07 | Zyndrome | you know what buff the UI needs ... something that doesn't remove the buff-timers until I /reloadui, whenever I change graphics settings (i.e. Particle Density) :< |
| 18:02.12 | Zyndrome | or its just nBuff being gay |
| 18:02.34 | foxlit | what's a buff timer? |
| 18:02.40 | Fisker | think it's just nbuff being gay |
| 18:02.48 | Fisker | which sounds like an addon tivoli made |
| 18:03.46 | jnwhiteh | i should suggest he make a new addon and name it "nbuff being gay" |
| 18:07.04 | Zyndrome | Hard Gay appears whenever you gain a buff |
| 18:11.59 | Aelobin | Zyndrome: what's mick done to wowui? |
| 18:12.20 | Zyndrome | uhm wut |
| 18:12.24 | Cairenn | huh? |
| 18:12.29 | Zyndrome | I know he screwed with the channel modes :P |
| 18:12.45 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: another channel, another network :P |
| 18:12.53 | Cairenn | ah |
| 18:13.00 | Aelobin | oh right you class WoWI as wowui too? xD |
| 18:13.04 | Cairenn | no |
| 18:13.08 | jnwhiteh | no, this channel name |
| 18:13.10 | Zyndrome | 02:57.55 .•• Mickelus sets #wowui mode +iucMk +v |
| 18:13.16 | Aelobin | Zyndrome: kk |
| 18:13.16 | jnwhiteh | is #wowuidev |
| 18:13.16 | Zyndrome | the usual /mode mistake |
| 18:13.22 | Aelobin | yeh i know jnwhiteh |
| 18:13.25 | jnwhiteh | hardly a stretch to call that wowui :P |
| 18:13.29 | Aelobin | i meant the WoWI website |
| 18:13.35 | Cairenn | no, WoWI is WoWI |
| 18:13.37 | Aelobin | do they class _that_ as wowui too |
| 18:13.40 | Cairenn | wowui is incgamers |
| 18:13.41 | Zyndrome | Cairenn , it |
| 18:13.47 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 18:13.50 | Zyndrome | it's just a ... hold on, Vezax now |
| 18:14.06 | Aelobin | see, that answers the question :) |
| 18:16.26 | Zyndrome | it's just a channel for the Interface & Macros forum @ EU |
| 18:16.30 | Zyndrome | inofficial ofc |
| 18:16.34 | Zyndrome | (lol Vezax wipe) |
| 18:16.41 | Cairenn | nod |
| 18:16.50 | jnwhiteh | i just have no idea how WoWI came up |
| 18:16.54 | jnwhiteh | can anyone enlighten me? |
| 18:17.03 | Zyndrome | drugs |
| 18:17.05 | Cairenn | I understood when jnwhiteh said it was another channel on another network |
| 18:17.41 | Zyndrome | and mick broke it without realising it |
| 18:17.46 | Zyndrome | nor did anyone else :< |
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| 18:19.06 | Aelobin | jnwhiteh: because when i meantioned "wowui" Cairenn wondered what was going on, hence i asked if the "WoWI" website is sometimes called "WoWUI" :p |
| 18:19.28 | jnwhiteh | ah no, definitely not |
| 18:19.40 | jnwhiteh | wowui is another website, as she said |
| 18:19.46 | Aelobin | that i did not know ;) |
| 18:19.51 | jnwhiteh | but i didn't evem make that connection |
| 18:19.52 | Cairenn | yep |
| 18:20.00 | Cairenn | is all sorted :) |
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| 18:20.58 | Lopeppeppy | so many confusing letters, so little time |
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| 18:24.53 | Fisker | man steelbreaker looks hard on hardmode |
| 18:24.58 | Fisker | 150k raid dps |
| 18:25.04 | Fisker | to get him down |
| 18:25.04 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 18:25.34 | sacarasc | But what do the other 24 people do? |
| 18:25.37 | Pneumatus | it is hard |
| 18:25.45 | Fisker | awesome Zyndrome |
| 18:25.54 | Zyndrome | wat |
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| 18:26.11 | Zyndrome | 25-man Steelbreaker last is a BITCH |
| 18:26.15 | Zyndrome | but 10-man |
| 18:26.17 | Zyndrome | /lol |
| 18:26.49 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:27.03 | Fisker | we were like "Lets do steelbreaker it was very easy on 10-man" |
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| 18:27.16 | Fisker | Half the raid lol'd when we saw 30 seconds on the overwhelming power |
| 18:27.16 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 18:27.33 | Grum | 'oopsie we need 115k dps' :p |
| 18:27.40 | Fisker | 115k dps? |
| 18:27.43 | Fisker | got it to ~145k |
| 18:27.54 | Grum | yes but not for 3 tank periods :) |
| 18:28.01 | Grum | average :) |
| 18:29.12 | Zyndrome | but we're now trying to do the hellhole achievement ... Vezax hard mode @ 25-man |
| 18:29.20 | Zyndrome | luckily, I'm melee and can just faceroll |
| 18:30.06 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:30.08 | Fisker | ret pala ftw |
| 18:30.21 | Fisker | "Oh whats this? Double mana" THANK YOU |
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| 18:30.28 | Fisker | Entire buff is credit to team! |
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| 18:31.44 | Grum | Zyndrome: vezx hard is not that hard :) |
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| 18:35.08 | Zyndrome | Grum , for us ... he is |
| 18:35.15 | Zyndrome | RL failbot is going crazy |
| 18:35.50 | Zyndrome | "X failed moving at Mark of the Faceless (100000000000000000000 times infinite)" |
| 18:35.54 | Zyndrome | etc |
| 18:37.39 | Grum | heje |
| 18:37.47 | Grum | use aspect of the pack :) |
| 18:38.01 | Zyndrome | we are :P |
| 18:38.04 | Zyndrome | still, fail |
| 18:38.11 | Zyndrome | some shitface healing him for 2mil |
| 18:38.16 | jnwhiteh | what does faceroll mean? |
| 18:38.20 | jnwhiteh | I've not encountered it before :P |
| 18:38.27 | Zyndrome | apply face to keyboard |
| 18:38.30 | Adys | its when you roll faces in toilet paper |
| 18:38.30 | Zyndrome | roll left and right |
| 18:38.32 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:38.34 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 18:38.42 | jnwhiteh | incredibly expressive now that you've explained it |
| 18:39.18 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.36 | jnwhiteh | hahaha =) |
| 18:39.54 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/35575 |
| 18:39.57 | Adys | alliance counterpart |
| 18:40.30 | Grum | epic :D |
| 18:44.42 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
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| 19:06.22 | zenzelezz | MSDN/Bing! search confuses me... 466 results. Exclude "Downloads"? 525 results |
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| 19:07.06 | Adys | because it sucks |
| 19:07.50 | zenzelezz | that's pretty much the conclusion I came to too |
| 19:13.19 | Dagmar | Bing is sh*t |
| 19:13.51 | Dagmar | ...but the ads that show them presenting a "solution" to a completely insane and entirely ficticious problem should have been a clue. |
| 19:14.53 | Cruciformer | is bing the MS attempt to get a verb of their own for search? |
| 19:15.23 | Shirik | yes |
| 19:15.30 | Shirik | they're actually inventing a new language |
| 19:15.35 | Shirik | they call it Microsoftian |
| 19:16.03 | Shirik | but yeah I don't use bing |
| 19:16.07 | Cruciformer | let me guess. Its really simple to "help" users. It has three words: give us money? |
| 19:16.10 | Shirik | I use google with the "site:msdn.com" clause :) |
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| 19:18.23 | foxlit|mac | "466 results. Exclude "Downloads"? 525 results" << estimating result volume is an approximation anyway |
| 19:19.41 | Shirik | estimating ... is an approximation |
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| 19:20.59 | Cruciformer | in teh google case, the "showing 1-10 of about XXX" ... XXX is fairly accurate in terms of how many pages the crawler found with the word. |
| 19:21.00 | Shirik | I don't understand the point of trying to compete with google |
| 19:21.03 | foxlit|mac | yes indeed. |
| 19:21.30 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, for the same reasons that dogs lick their balls |
| 19:21.42 | Thunder_Child | because they can |
| 19:22.02 | Cruciformer | Shirik: they just want a bigger market share of ad revenue. It makes good business snese to at least try. |
| 19:22.05 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.26 | Cruciformer | TC: Off-topic ... did you take a look at Capture One yesterday? |
| 19:22.36 | Thunder_Child | Cruciformer, somewhat |
| 19:22.39 | foxlit|mac | Cruciformer: you generally have no way to verify that. |
| 19:22.47 | Thunder_Child | i got sidetracked however |
| 19:23.04 | foxlit|mac | And the number jumps around depending on which results page you view. |
| 19:23.14 | Cruciformer | foxlit|mac: I actually do. As an employee at google for nearly 3 years and being extremely familiar with how the search engine works, I can absolutely say that. |
| 19:23.56 | foxlit|mac | let me rephrase: I generally have no way to verify what you're saying. |
| 19:24.25 | foxlit|mac | However, I do have a way of seeing that that number does tend to jump about. |
| 19:24.49 | Shirik | thing deviantart could change my username if I wanted to? |
| 19:24.51 | Shirik | think* |
| 19:24.53 | Cruciformer | depending on which cluster you hit, it can. But tis still fairly indicative. |
| 19:25.07 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, yes..however they may just say to make a new one |
| 19:25.11 | Thunder_Child | i dont know |
| 19:25.34 | Shirik | I don't really want to make a new account because it's so old |
| 19:25.46 | Shirik | I guess I can just keep the old name |
| 19:25.55 | Thunder_Child | that made no sense |
| 19:26.09 | Shirik | I have statistics dating back to 2004! |
| 19:26.35 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 19:27.13 | Thunder_Child | cant hurt to ask |
| 19:29.06 | Shirik | what's your name on devart Thunder_Child? |
| 19:29.12 | Shirik | I'm just going to keep using my old name I guess |
| 19:29.15 | Shirik | need to clean up my gallery |
| 19:29.16 | Thunder_Child | http://thunder-child.deviantart.com/ |
| 19:29.33 | Thunder_Child | bastards wouldnt let me have _ |
| 19:29.51 | Dagmar | Pray you never have to try and recover a lost password |
| 19:30.15 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:31.06 | Shirik | what is "=" Thunder_Child? |
| 19:31.11 | Shirik | I forgot all the things |
| 19:31.13 | Thunder_Child | subscriber |
| 19:31.23 | Shirik | benefits? |
| 19:31.24 | Cruciformer | If I set up an iteration with string.gmatch to extract fields from a string, is there any way, after a given number of iterations, to say "give me the rest of the string dont match any more"? |
| 19:31.51 | Shirik | you're better off crafting a special pattern in that case, Cruciformer |
| 19:31.57 | Shirik | actually |
| 19:31.58 | Shirik | sorta, yes |
| 19:32.08 | foxlit|mac | I think you may be able to capture () |
| 19:32.10 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:32.12 | Shirik | that's what I would do |
| 19:32.12 | foxlit|mac | which should give you a position |
| 19:32.14 | Shirik | and then use substring |
| 19:32.31 | Shirik | foxlit|mac types faster than me :( |
| 19:32.35 | Shirik | I was typing out an example |
| 19:32.39 | Cruciformer | please do |
| 19:33.00 | foxlit|mac | lua> for s,pos in ("words are awesome"):gmatch("%a+()") print(s,pos); end |
| 19:33.03 | lua_bot | foxlit|mac: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'print' |
| 19:33.06 | Cruciformer | I have fields separated by :'s, and after interpreting the first few I either need more fields or the rest of the string. |
| 19:33.11 | foxlit|mac | lua> for s,pos in ("words are awesome"):gmatch("%a+()") do print(s,pos); end |
| 19:33.12 | lua_bot | foxlit|mac: 6, nil, 10, nil, 18, nil |
| 19:33.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, there is a niftly little page for that but i dont know how to get to it logged out |
| 19:34.12 | Shirik | lua> local str = "abcdef" local n; for p, s in str:gmatch("().") do print(s); if s == "c" then n = p; break; end end; print(string.sub(str, n)) |
| 19:34.13 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil) |
| 19:34.15 | Shirik | whoops |
| 19:34.28 | Shirik | lua> local str = "abcdef" local n; for p, s in str:gmatch("()(.)") do print(s); if s == "c" then n = p; break; end end; print(string.sub(str, n)) |
| 19:34.29 | lua_bot | Shirik: a, b, c, cdef |
| 19:34.55 | Shirik | I'm logged in right now Thunder_Child |
| 19:35.01 | Shirik | if that's what you're saying |
| 19:35.17 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, at the top there should be something you can click...just to the right of your name |
| 19:35.34 | Cruciformer | tyvm shirik I'll give that a whirl now. |
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| 19:36.17 | Shirik | the thing that's bugging me is what is the maximum size per picture?> |
| 19:36.32 | Shirik | I can't find that anywhere |
| 19:36.39 | Thunder_Child | i have yet to find one..and i up ~10mb pics |
| 19:36.42 | zenzelezz | in bytes? |
| 19:37.07 | zenzelezz | http://help.deviantart.com/753/ |
| 19:37.11 | Shirik | Yes. Deviations and Scrapbook submissions must be 30MB or under to be uploaded. |
| 19:37.23 | Shirik | well, my RAW files are 25MB so that shouldn't be a problem :) |
| 19:37.43 | Thunder_Child | i dont think they accept RAW's |
| 19:38.06 | Shirik | well I'm saying that should be the absolute maximum |
| 19:38.11 | Shirik | JPEG should always be smaller |
| 19:38.15 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 19:38.53 | Cruciformer | Shirik: tyvm sir. That trick of using () is highly useful, I missed that when reading the Lua docs. Extremely handly. |
| 19:39.04 | Shirik | and foxlit|mac goes unnoticed |
| 19:39.04 | Cruciformer | *handy |
| 19:39.05 | Shirik | I believe I win |
| 19:39.22 | Cruciformer | and ty foxlit too :) |
| 19:39.24 | Shirik | It totally was because of the mac |
| 19:39.28 | Shirik | see |
| 19:39.29 | Shirik | proof |
| 19:39.48 | Shirik | ok Thunder_Child I guess I'll start updating my devart page again |
| 19:40.03 | foxlit | Cruciformer: gah, now I can't jokingly curse at Shirik :) |
| 19:40.15 | Shirik | sure you can |
| 19:40.17 | Shirik | everyone else does |
| 19:40.27 | foxlit | I have standards. |
| 19:40.32 | Cruciformer | foxlit: I have a solution to that particular problem: curse at him seriously :) |
| 19:40.35 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, seem with permium you can up via FTP |
| 19:40.43 | Shirik | I'll probably get premium anyway |
| 19:40.46 | Shirik | I was premium before |
| 19:41.05 | Thunder_Child | "You can upload as many files as you want (up to 80 MB each), up to a total of 250 MB. " |
| 19:41.17 | Shirik | What is that? |
| 19:41.26 | Thunder_Child | part of the FTP rules |
| 19:41.35 | Shirik | wha |
| 19:41.38 | Shirik | you can do 80MB with FTP? |
| 19:41.42 | Shirik | The 30MB must be a PHP limit |
| 19:41.46 | Thunder_Child | *shrug* thats what it says |
| 19:42.30 | Shirik | the "total of 250MB" is confusing though |
| 19:43.01 | Thunder_Child | in one batch i belive |
| 19:43.20 | Shirik | is there a total size limit you've found? I can't find one in FAQ |
| 19:43.20 | Thunder_Child | since it is stored in a temp area till you fill in all the details |
| 19:43.51 | Thunder_Child | at a time Shirik, at a time |
| 19:43.58 | Shirik | I know |
| 19:44.02 | Shirik | this is just a related question |
| 19:44.13 | Thunder_Child | there is none, i just read it |
| 19:44.42 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, http://help.deviantart.com/552/ |
| 19:44.55 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:45.02 | Shirik | I searched for "limit" and it said "sorry nothing matches that term" |
| 19:45.14 | Thunder_Child | search function seems to be borked atm |
| 19:45.23 | Thunder_Child | nothing i searched for showed up either |
| 19:46.44 | zenzelezz | let's just say that (web)site searches quite often fail miserably, on many sites |
| 19:47.07 | Thunder_Child | but usualy they return something |
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| 19:47.46 | Shirik | usually when they say nothing matches, it's accurate |
| 19:47.51 | Shirik | you may not get what you want when there ARE matches |
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| 20:01.56 | Shirik | where did you find this info on FTP, Thunder_Child? Again FAQ not being very helpful |
| 20:05.00 | zenzelezz | http://help.deviantart.com/677/ |
| 20:05.13 | zenzelezz | given your earlier example, "ftp site:deviantart.com" worked |
| 20:05.33 | Shirik | how are you guys finding these things |
| 20:06.05 | zenzelezz | didn't I just say that? |
| 20:07.29 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, go to submission and it has a little info hbox |
| 20:07.32 | Thunder_Child | box* |
| 20:07.33 | zenzelezz | though for your earlier questions I just search for something like "deviantart maximum file size" |
| 20:08.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, whats your best bowl? |
| 20:08.16 | Shirik | I hit 212 once, but that was really, REALLY odd |
| 20:08.23 | Shirik | I'm usually around 150 |
| 20:08.52 | Thunder_Child | that sounds about right |
| 20:09.03 | Thunder_Child | same boat for me - the 212 |
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| 20:15.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know offhand, if it is possible to verify a .jar's signature from within java? Without too much pain? |
| 20:16.12 | Shirik | it is |
| 20:16.18 | Shirik | I don't remember how but it's very simple |
| 20:17.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24392&page=2 and http://www.mmoui.com/bugs/view.php?id=42 (second being a bug I submitted quite a while ago) |
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| 20:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | wonders where the source for jarsigner is... |
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| 20:21.40 | starshine | greetings. is there an irc or im client addon for use inside wow's environment? |
| 20:22.14 | foxlit | No; never. |
| 20:22.53 | starshine | bummer, it'd be nice to chat with people outside the game without tasking away. |
| 20:22.56 | Corrodias | truth; at least as of 2.4, addons were not allowed to communicate with anything outside the game (at least while it was running), and i doubt that has changed. |
| 20:23.05 | Corrodias | there are a couple of options for you, though |
| 20:23.27 | starshine | *listening* :) |
| 20:23.28 | Corrodias | A) you could play in a window, or B) there is a program that lets you overlay programs on top of games... let's see |
| 20:23.45 | Corrodias | http://www.gameoverlay.com/ for the latter. it's not free, though. |
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| 20:24.19 | starshine | ok. thanks :D |
| 20:25.04 | Corrodias | i play most games in a window for that reason |
| 20:25.32 | starshine | ok, totally different question. it'd be nice to have something that would just help me run along a road without having to watch it :) |
| 20:26.33 | starshine | I have no idea what the lua for that would even look like tho .. |
| 20:26.34 | Corrodias | addons are not able to direct the movement of your character either |
| 20:26.38 | Corrodias | and this time i don't have any suggestions, sorry |
| 20:26.40 | foxlit | Generally speaking, code may not play the game for you." |
| 20:27.30 | Corrodias | that's quite a generalization. can't they run auctions for you? |
| 20:27.50 | foxlit | Perhaps I don't consider auctions a game :) |
| 20:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | You can't buy out/bid on auctions without a hardware event |
| 20:28.10 | krka | starshine: agreed about the running on road-thing :/ |
| 20:28.54 | foxlit | Take a gryphon. |
| 20:28.59 | foxlit | Those stay on roads :) |
| 20:29.07 | Corrodias | that's about the only choice |
| 20:29.21 | starshine | well I wouldnt really want it to run past crossroads for example, and if a comabta happens I certainly expect to get flattened and wake up dead |
| 20:29.24 | Corrodias | i remember nodding off at the keyboard to find that i've run/flown far off course |
| 20:29.40 | Corrodias | i was a little obsessed with the game |
| 20:29.42 | starshine | just theres the elven bootmakers league series in ashenvale and the road gets old quick :P |
| 20:30.12 | starshine | hah thats what the in game clock alarm is for right? |
| 20:31.26 | starshine | anyways thanks for the advice folks and keep up the good coding |
| 20:31.34 | starshine | I heart outfitter, it rocks |
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| 20:35.34 | Shirik | Why does superman have powers at night? |
| 20:36.31 | Nechckn | he's like a battery |
| 20:36.46 | End | he carries a yellow sun in his pocket |
| 20:37.01 | Nechckn | so, he soaks up the energy, and then it slowly goes away with time |
| 20:37.01 | foxlit | That's an odd question; let's extrapolate: How much energy does 1 superman store? |
| 20:37.22 | Nechckn | Were he locked in a basement with no light penetration, he'd basically revert to a dude. |
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| 20:38.24 | Nechckn | That was the general idea, as I remember it. |
| 20:39.22 | Nechckn | Superman Six can be all about him solving the planets energy and "green" needs, like the one where he destroyed all nukes. ;-) |
| 20:43.44 | foxlit | So, if right clicking on the world enters mouse look mode and rotates your character |
| 20:43.54 | foxlit | and left clicking alters camera position -- how do I stop the latter? |
| 20:44.20 | Taroven | Stop right clicking? |
| 20:44.36 | foxlit | That would be the prior. |
| 20:44.44 | foxlit | There's MouselookStop() to get out of mouse look. |
| 20:45.00 | foxlit | There does not appear to be a function to get out of camera adjustment |
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| 20:46.04 | Cruciformer | !api CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop |
| 20:46.05 | lua_bot | CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop: Ends action initiated by [[docs/api/CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart|`CameraOrSelectOrMoveStart`]] (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop) |
| 20:46.21 | foxlit | Which I can't call :/ |
| 20:47.22 | Cruciformer | ah yeah. bummer. |
| 20:49.28 | Cruciformer | I wonder why thats protected. |
| 20:49.51 | foxlit | It has too much stuff attached to it |
| 20:50.02 | foxlit | "Camera or Select or Move" |
| 20:50.17 | foxlit | CameraStop() would probably be alright. MoveStop() is evil. |
| 20:51.05 | foxlit | Annoyance: enter mouselook -> press binding -> release right mouse button -> release binding -> no "binding up" event is dispatched. |
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| 20:56.28 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.1.x ToC: 30100 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | The lady was using a power strip to plug her computer and other devices into. Windows was completely frozen, and she was unable to shut down the machine by using the power button. She mentioned the power strip, so I told her to flip it off. She said, "Ok, I gave it the finger. I feel better." |
| 21:01.59 | Shirik | foxlit: Sign your code so it is untainted |
| 21:02.15 | foxlit | Shirik: you have my keys. |
| 21:02.19 | foxlit | Please return them. |
| 21:02.22 | Shirik | :P |
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| 21:06.20 | Fisker | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 21:06.28 | Fisker | "OH NOS TEH PIRACY" |
| 21:07.09 | Fisker | The DirectV internet stream won't be replayable because they want to shove some DRM up its ass so we can't pirate it |
| 21:07.39 | Taroven | You know someone's gonna crack it within the next day. |
| 21:07.42 | Fisker | Another well-thought out event by Blizzard |
| 21:08.13 | foxlit | I'm sure you could already find tools to capture the low-quality flash stream. |
| 21:08.29 | Fisker | i'm sure i won't care |
| 21:08.34 | Fisker | because it shouldn't be nessecary |
| 21:08.55 | foxlit | I'm not very impressed by the "Our stream is so awesome, you need to install custom software to play it" |
| 21:09.23 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:09.29 | Fisker | and it's p2p |
| 21:09.36 | Fisker | so i'm hosting their stream for €29.99 |
| 21:09.37 | Fisker | thanks! |
| 21:10.47 | Shirik | is blizzcon going on now? |
| 21:10.47 | Shirik | no |
| 21:11.32 | foxlit | And their "high" quality isn't actually good. |
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| 21:12.13 | Fisker | naw foxlit |
| 21:12.14 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 21:12.22 | Fisker | They're telling me it's 320x240 |
| 21:12.26 | Fisker | "HD" ftw |
| 21:12.41 | Fisker | how can that even be lower quality than that? |
| 21:12.45 | Fisker | 160x120? |
| 21:12.47 | Fisker | doubt it |
| 21:13.15 | Fisker | Hopefully he just sent me the stats about the low quality one |
| 21:17.39 | foxlit | teehee |
| 21:17.45 | foxlit | their mac install ships with their TODO list |
| 21:18.12 | Fisker | Todo: Make it work on mac |
| 21:18.14 | Fisker | btw |
| 21:18.18 | Fisker | you can only say that by having a mac |
| 21:18.23 | Fisker | therefor your argument is invalid |
| 21:18.28 | foxlit | "snow leopard cannot run setup since preflight is powerpc and does not have rosseta installed" |
| 21:18.35 | foxlit | "memory leaks - flash script object, etc." |
| 21:18.48 | Fisker | nice todo |
| 21:24.51 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/a-penny-lost-is-a-penny-earned/2142 ???? |
| 21:25.00 | Gnarfoz | should be on some wow-related site, front page |
| 21:25.02 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
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| 21:32.06 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 21:32.08 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 21:32.44 | Gnarfoz | and I hate our lack of raid signups |
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| 21:51.55 | Cairenn | pokes Sargeras |
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| 22:13.27 | alestane | Ah, invention in the kitchen. |
| 22:13.32 | foxlit | # If you decide you do not like this song, you must completely remove it from your memory. |
| 22:14.10 | foxlit | # We recommend a partial frontal lobotomy or a substantial intake of Jack Daniel's. Always drink responsibly. |
| 22:16.34 | Shirik | foxlit: License? |
| 22:16.42 | Shirik | I like that license |
| 22:16.44 | foxlit | Shirik: song. |
| 22:18.37 | foxlit | # If you heard this song in the United States, this license is governed by the laws of the State of Hawaii. If you heard this song in Canada, you are obviously a music pirate, as we have never been to Canada and don't sell records there. The Mounties are on their way over right now; please wait for their arrival and DO NOT DESTROY THE EVIDENCE. |
| 22:18.57 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:19.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:20.46 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4XE6wgB1s << the audio. |
| 22:26.11 | jnwhiteh | DK leveling solo spec |
| 22:26.14 | jnwhiteh | suggestions? |
| 22:26.29 | bleeter | word to Blizz lurkers: Release SC2 Linux native (ie without needing Wine) or there'll be no more cute IRC plugins in the guifications plugin pack! |
| 22:26.30 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: whatever you find fun |
| 22:26.36 | Iriel | I enjoyed Frost |
| 22:26.46 | jnwhiteh | i enjoy them all, honestly |
| 22:26.57 | jnwhiteh | blood seems like i'm cheating, with few sparklies |
| 22:27.03 | bleeter | it's not as if we have any demand for windows builds... so why should we build it after all we do it for free! :P |
| 22:27.06 | jnwhiteh | frost feels like i always need to be healed |
| 22:27.08 | jnwhiteh | unholy felt imba |
| 22:27.11 | jnwhiteh | but unholy is being nerfed |
| 22:27.17 | jnwhiteh | and i haven't done frost in forever. |
| 22:27.28 | Shirik | I did blood, but that was a while ago |
| 22:27.37 | jnwhiteh | but i also meant a specific spec :P |
| 22:27.38 | Shirik | and I didn't get very far; I don't particularly like playing a DK |
| 22:27.41 | jnwhiteh | if anyone have anything to suggest =) |
| 22:27.43 | jnwhiteh | i'm 70 |
| 22:27.48 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: I love my dk :P |
| 22:27.49 | jnwhiteh | lots of fun |
| 22:27.55 | Iriel | I didnt'r eally start to have tons of fun until Northrend |
| 22:28.05 | Iriel | but then my dk rapidly became my favorite char for a while |
| 22:28.16 | Shirik | I just like healing |
| 22:28.20 | jnwhiteh | i'm in northrend |
| 22:28.27 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: me too, this is just another char for fun |
| 22:28.33 | jnwhiteh | Iriel: have a suggested 70 frost spec |
| 22:28.34 | jnwhiteh | i'll test it out. |
| 22:29.15 | jnwhiteh | heart strike is fun, tho |
| 22:29.17 | jnwhiteh | must say |
| 22:29.43 | Shirik | Iriel: random question, is there a way to tell what collections a picture is currently in in Lightroom? |
| 22:30.08 | Iriel | Shirik: I dont know, i've not had to ask that particular question of it |
| 22:30.25 | Shirik | normally I won't |
| 22:30.29 | Iriel | Let me see if it's immediately obvious |
| 22:30.43 | Shirik | I just changed my workflow and I came across a picture that is not in its correct location |
| 22:30.54 | Shirik | and trying to find an easy way to figure out exactly where it's supposed to be :) |
| 22:31.04 | Iriel | Shirik - right click -> Show in Collection |
| 22:31.16 | Shirik | oh that works |
| 22:31.40 | Shirik | I like lightroom now, makes managing my workflow easy :) |
| 22:31.43 | Cruciformer | that just tells you waht collection to put it in. it wont show what collections it is currently in will it? |
| 22:31.48 | Shirik | lots of fun stuff to play |
| 22:32.04 | Shirik | Cruciformer: It showed all the collections it's in, as a side effect of its operation |
| 22:32.13 | Iriel | Cruciformer: it lists each collection its in, so you can see it in context |
| 22:32.27 | jnwhiteh | i really liked aperture when I played with it before. |
| 22:32.32 | jnwhiteh | i'd have a tough time choosing between the two |
| 22:32.52 | Cruciformer | Shirik: ah cool. BTW I'll give you teh same advice I have TC yesterday, if you don't already have a large investment in LR. Look at Capture One. Does much teh same stuff, some say better. |
| 22:32.57 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: aperture betrayed me, and then I got a good deal on LR (and discovered LR uses Lua as its extension language) |
| 22:33.02 | Cruciformer | have=gave |
| 22:33.11 | jnwhiteh | Iriel: how did it betray you? |
| 22:33.24 | jnwhiteh | Iriel: but i"ve gotten Lua errors in Lightroom.. and the interface drives me batty =/ |
| 22:33.39 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: late support for my camera, and then flawed support when it did come out, and Apple being in total denial about it |
| 22:33.47 | jnwhiteh | bah that sucks. |
| 22:33.52 | jnwhiteh | other than that did you play with it/like it? |
| 22:33.57 | Iriel | I bought it |
| 22:33.59 | Cruciformer | Iriel: What do you shoot with? |
| 22:33.59 | Iriel | so yes 8-) |
| 22:34.04 | bleeter | anyone else here insane enough to try Fedora on PPC? |
| 22:34.05 | Iriel | Nikon D300 |
| 22:34.26 | jnwhiteh | are there any blood/unholy talents i _NEED_ |
| 22:34.26 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: I find apertures library management superior to LR's |
| 22:34.46 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: I find LR's photo editing superior to aperture's |
| 22:34.54 | jnwhiteh | ah =) |
| 22:35.13 | Iriel | I probably wouldn't have picked favorites if it wasn't for the raw thing |
| 22:35.26 | Iriel | I'm kind of bummed to have sunk a couple of hundred dollars into Aperture |
| 22:35.31 | Shirik | Well Lightroom's going to get a real test in its flexibility soon when I move what drive it's got the pictures on |
| 22:35.43 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: it _really_ dislikes that |
| 22:35.45 | jnwhiteh | from what i understand |
| 22:35.59 | Shirik | well it's going to like it :P |
| 22:36.00 | Iriel | I think it depends HOW you move them |
| 22:36.06 | Iriel | But who knows 8-) |
| 22:36.06 | jnwhiteh | I have http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfZGMctAMckfuV0st |
| 22:36.15 | jnwhiteh | Anything in unholy that I _need_ |
| 22:36.17 | jnwhiteh | i only have 1 point to spend |
| 22:36.20 | jnwhiteh | but does that seem reasonable? |
| 22:36.40 | foxlit | Hey Fisker: http://www.rayv.com/Support/Viewer/FAQ |
| 22:36.59 | foxlit | "Resolution: 320 x 240 pixels" << So ambitious, even eurovision has them outdone. |
| 22:37.00 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: I have NOTHING in unholy myself |
| 22:37.05 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 22:37.10 | jnwhiteh | I assume the 5 in blood is obligatory |
| 22:37.22 | Iriel | Though i'm sure that hardcore folks would mock some or all of my build 8-) |
| 22:37.28 | Iriel | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=The+Venture+Co&cn=Imagem&gn=Acquisition+Imperative |
| 22:37.36 | Iriel | Ignore the unholy set, I never use it |
| 22:37.55 | Iriel | I use some of blood to get me some healing |
| 22:38.32 | bleeter | Iriel: holy shit, you're on TVC? I left that realm 'coz I didn't know anyone cool on it! :P |
| 22:39.01 | Iriel | bleeter: both of my 80's are |
| 22:39.09 | bleeter | notes that he still doesn't know of anyone cool on TVC |
| 22:39.14 | bleeter | *burn* lol :P ;) |
| 22:41.13 | bleeter | Iriel: if 3.2 is compelling enough, might renew 'n move back just to give you a hard time. I miss RP-PvP realm. Even if the timezones suck big ass. |
| 22:41.18 | Cairenn | pokes bleeter, "Iriel rocks, you blasphemer!" |
| 22:41.33 | bleeter | notes Cairenn is paid to say that :P |
| 22:42.11 | bleeter | of course, if someone's paid, doesn't necessarily mean a statement is false... and Cair's not that kinda gal ;) |
| 22:42.18 | Cairenn | ;) |
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| 22:45.39 | Shirik | sigh |
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| 22:45.49 | Shirik | my brother is such a nut |
| 22:45.58 | Shirik | he calls me asking how to uninstall a program.... |
| 22:46.07 | Shirik | I mean I know he's not as good with computers as I am but damn |
| 22:46.20 | Pattrick | tell him SYSTEM32 is a birus |
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| 22:46.24 | Pattrick | have a good time |
| 22:46.32 | bleeter | coz birus is bad mmkay |
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| 22:47.21 | Pattrick | anyways, douchebaggery asside, would anyone recommend any UI's for a newb, I'm playing a Hunter and Mage |
| 22:47.35 | Iriel | The default UI is pretty decent, really. |
| 22:47.44 | Pattrick | indeed |
| 22:47.46 | Iriel | Just find addons to fill in things you feel are missing, or hate |
| 22:48.43 | Pattrick | what if I hate combat? |
| 22:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | As in fighting anything? |
| 22:48.52 | Pattrick | can i get an addon to WTFPWN everything for me in one hit? |
| 22:48.56 | BOMBOO | do you have link website that give me a nice tutorial that will help me create my wow server |
| 22:48.56 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 22:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 22:49.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: quick! GO! |
| 22:49.29 | Shirik | BOMBOO: Hi |
| 22:49.32 | Shirik | How are you doing today? |
| 22:49.33 | BOMBOO | hi sir |
| 22:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Or Shirik beat you to it |
| 22:49.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b BOMBOO!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 22:49.40 | Shirik | hey |
| 22:49.43 | Pattrick | Il est Francais |
| 22:49.44 | Shirik | I wanted to have a conversation with him first wtf |
| 22:50.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh he's still here |
| 22:50.05 | NightHawkTheSane | ^6 |
| 22:50.19 | Pattrick | (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 22:50.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b *!*@dsl-150-199.b2b2c.ca] by Cairenn |
| 22:50.20 | Pattrick | ? |
| 22:50.25 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [BOMBOO!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 22:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Now he's gone |
| 22:50.37 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b BOMBOO!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 22:50.42 | Shirik | cries at Cairenn |
| 22:50.51 | Cairenn | :p |
| 22:52.01 | Cruciformer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Pattrick: no addons can change combat like that, nor automate any of it |
| 22:52.36 | Pattrick | i know |
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| 23:05.22 | Shirik | wow |
| 23:05.25 | Shirik | lightroom is going nuts |
| 23:05.37 | Shirik | 30% CPU usage, and is allocating and deallocating 200MB about every 10 seconds |
| 23:05.38 | Cruciformer | moving catalogs? |
| 23:05.41 | Shirik | no |
| 23:06.25 | Shirik | just general usage |
| 23:06.30 | Shirik | and I noticed my computer was acting slow |
| 23:08.49 | Iriel | Shirik: I'm not sure what it does internally, but the "Optimize Catalog" can help if you've radically changed the size of the catalog recently |
| 23:09.06 | Iriel | Shirik: (I'm not personally convinced such manual intervention SHOULD be necessary, but still...) |
| 23:09.21 | Shirik | I just restarted lightroom and it's fine |
| 23:09.25 | Shirik | so I don't really know what I hit |
| 23:09.32 | Iriel | I'll also note I run it on a mac |
| 23:09.41 | Iriel | It may have different quirks |
| 23:10.06 | Cruciformer | which version are you using Shirik? |
| 23:10.17 | Shirik | 2.3 |
| 23:10.23 | Iriel | Oh yes, 2.4 just came out didn't it |
| 23:10.34 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:10.40 | Shirik | haven't bothered to upgrade yet |
| 23:10.47 | Cruciformer | Im still using 2.3 as well but the 64-bit version |
| 23:11.05 | Shirik | same |
| 23:11.17 | Cruciformer | so far so good. It may help that I have 12G of ram. |
| 23:11.30 | Shirik | I only have 4 GB :P |
| 23:11.40 | Iriel | 9 here |
| 23:11.52 | Shirik | I'm sure it doesn't help that I'm using a laptop |
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| 23:13.58 | Adys | okay WOW |
| 23:14.01 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/img/icons/inv_belt_42b.png |
| 23:14.03 | Adys | some comment |
| 23:14.19 | Adys | "Anyone else see Goaste when the see this icon?" |
| 23:14.50 | Bibi | what's goatse? |
| 23:14.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:15.02 | Adys | ask your dad, he was the guy in the pic |
| 23:15.08 | Bibi | wow, rude. |
| 23:15.13 | Adys | your dad's rude |
| 23:15.20 | Shirik | you really don't want to know Bibi |
| 23:15.25 | Bibi | Shirik: I do. |
| 23:15.29 | Bibi | do you have a link? |
| 23:15.37 | End | great |
| 23:15.38 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:15.42 | Shirik | no :P |
| 23:15.45 | Bibi | please. |
| 23:15.49 | End | now I look at that icon and I think of goatse |
| 23:15.52 | End | Adys: die in a fire please |
| 23:16.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Bibi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse |
| 23:18.11 | Adys | scythe and shirik you both fail hard |
| 23:18.16 | Bibi | I don't get it, do you have a link of that picture? |
| 23:18.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Bibi: http://web.archive.org/web/20030623201150/http://goatse.cx |
| 23:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ NSFW |
| 23:18.36 | Shirik | ~kill ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:18.57 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited fluxproton gun at ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:18.57 | Bibi | yay, I won! |
| 23:18.57 | Cairenn | oh god |
| 23:18.57 | Adys | you guys fail really, really hard. |
| 23:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | bibi asked like 12 times! |
| 23:18.57 | ScytheBlade1 | deal! |
| 23:18.57 | Cairenn | don't fucking link that |
| 23:18.58 | Shirik | Adys: I got it after the "do you have a link?" part |
| 23:18.59 | ScytheBlade1 | okay wrong person to talk back to |
| 23:19.00 | Cairenn | send it in a PM |
| 23:19.02 | Cairenn | geez |
| 23:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 23:19.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Duh |
| 23:19.04 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 23:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | sorry |
| 23:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | woke up at 5 and proceeded to puck |
| 23:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | *puke |
| 23:19.56 | Adys | pucks ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | is not entirely coherent, still |
| 23:19.58 | Bibi | do you have a picture of that too? |
| 23:20.01 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: sounds like my wednesday |
| 23:20.06 | Cairenn | hugs ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: ouch |
| 23:20.09 | Bibi | sounds like every day at MMO-Champ. |
| 23:20.11 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: except that was 7am and not 5pm |
| 23:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Bibi: ... lol, no |
| 23:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 23:20.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I meant 5 AM |
| 23:20.26 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: ah, then very similar to my wednesday. |
| 23:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | very |
| 23:20.38 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I had Vertifgo (well, still do), got to spend 3 days in bed, fun, not. |
| 23:20.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 23:20.43 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: did you by any chance puke on a cup of icecream and leave your two hot sexy brazilian sisters enjoy the cup? |
| 23:20.44 | Iriel | (Thus the sad state of the 3.2 changes thread) |
| 23:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, this was just a bad hotdog. |
| 23:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Which, depending, is possibly worse than vertigo |
| 23:21.16 | Iriel | I dont think so |
| 23:21.19 | Cairenn | Adys: nasty |
| 23:21.23 | Iriel | unless you threw up every time you tried to sit or stand? |
| 23:21.30 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, probably not if it stuck you in bed for 3 days |
| 23:21.40 | Adys | dude |
| 23:21.46 | Adys | clean up your bed when you're done puking |
| 23:21.54 | Adys | dont actually wait 3 days. |
| 23:22.09 | Iriel | Adys: Well, the trick is to stay in bed so as to NOT throw up, see. |
| 23:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | What exactly causes vertigo? I've heard a few people that have got it every so often, but have no clue what triggers it |
| 23:22.29 | Lopeppeppy | Lotsa things, ScytheBlade1. |
| 23:22.31 | Shirik | sigh |
| 23:22.31 | Iriel | There are numerous causes |
| 23:22.35 | Adys | many stuffs. |
| 23:22.40 | Shirik | "Moving 1501 items..." "Estimated time remaining: 14 minutes" |
| 23:22.48 | Adys | like hard drives |
| 23:22.50 | Iriel | The 'random' one seems to be some kind of mechanical issue with the bits of crystal in your inner ear that sense motion |
| 23:22.51 | ScytheBlade1 | explains that, actually |
| 23:22.51 | Adys | or java |
| 23:23.29 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28medical%29 |
| 23:23.35 | Adys | it's the loss of balance |
| 23:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | okay yeah that would suck quite a bit |
| 23:23.44 | Adys | thank you wikipedia! |
| 23:23.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: definitely worse than a bad hot dog :) |
| 23:24.08 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: it's high on my list of "most unpleasant experiences" |
| 23:24.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Although my stomach is still hating on me a bit |
| 23:24.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Not enough to matter, but enough to agitate me |
| 23:24.37 | Cairenn | <== has vertigo all the freaking time, falls "up" stairs on a not irregular basis |
| 23:24.42 | Adys | you dont throw up when you got vertigo.. not that i know anyway |
| 23:24.50 | Cairenn | Adys: you can |
| 23:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | Why not, Adys? You're dizzy and nauseated, you can hurl too. |
| 23:25.07 | Adys | see I can be perfectly healthy and throw up |
| 23:25.16 | Adys | what i meant is, vertigo doesnt CAUSE throwing up :P |
| 23:25.21 | Iriel | It's like crazy ass motion sickness |
| 23:25.32 | Cairenn | it's an imbalance in the inner ear, and when your brain can't figure out whether to listen to your eyes or what your sense of balance is telling you - you can hurl as a result |
| 23:25.33 | Iriel | and I dont GET motion sickness |
| 23:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I've never had motion sickess |
| 23:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's pretty impressive, Iriel |
| 23:26.00 | Iriel | By friday it was down to "merely" feeling like I was drunk (in terms of poor balance) |
| 23:26.04 | Adys | Iriel POSTs motion sickness. |
| 23:26.17 | Adys | badum-fail |
| 23:26.24 | Cruciformer | I am lucky I only have one phobia (batrachophobia). I am absolutely, completely and utterly petrified of frogs. |
| 23:26.45 | Cruciformer | fortunately I dont encounter them often slthough I do live near a lake now so the risk is much higher. |
| 23:26.46 | Iriel | Praise be for effective medicine at least. |
| 23:27.31 | Iriel | Cruciformer: this is the "other" kind of vertigo - but coincidentally i have the heights one too (more a fear of edges and drops, though, to be honest) |
| 23:29.29 | Cruciformer | Iriel: "other kind" of vertigo? I must have missed something what you said? |
| 23:29.30 | Cruciformer | s /what/that/ |
| 23:29.39 | Iriel | There's vertigo - the fear of heights |
| 23:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Then there is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_%28medical%29 |
| 23:29.58 | Iriel | And vertigo - a medical condition (symptom(s)) related to loss of balance |
| 23:30.09 | Cruciformer | ah ok |
| 23:30.27 | Adys | vertigo isnt the fear of heights itself |
| 23:30.36 | Adys | thats acriphobia or something |
| 23:30.41 | Cruciformer | its the fear of landing? |
| 23:30.44 | amro | vertigo = dizziness |
| 23:30.47 | Dagmar | It's the fear of that sudden stop at the bottom. ;) |
| 23:30.58 | Adys | but such phobia can result in vertigo |
| 23:31.07 | amro | people with fear of heights get really dizzy, and it only makes them more likely to fall off |
| 23:31.23 | Adys | Yeah |
| 23:31.27 | Adys | the human body is so smart |
| 23:31.41 | Adys | you fear heights == you likely fall off and are safe and well again ! |
| 23:31.43 | Cruciformer | Iriel: I occasionally get the "other" kind of vertigo. I am prone to ear infections and sometimes get extremely dizzy esp when getting up from sitting, but sometimes even just walking around. Like the whole world lurches 5 feet to the left |
| 23:32.15 | Iriel | That's the one, i'm at about '3 feet' today, down from 4 yesterday |
| 23:32.24 | Adys | gee |
| 23:32.26 | Iriel | I gather it takes a couple of weeks to normalize |
| 23:32.31 | Adys | not long until you use the metric system |
| 23:32.46 | Cruciformer | Iriel: I sympathise completely. It doesnt happen to me often but when it does its a major "whoa wtf" moment. |
| 23:33.12 | Iriel | this was freakishly out of the blue, I woke up a bit off balance on tuesday, then wednesday was just..well.. nasty. |
| 23:33.26 | Iriel | Luckily I got to see a dr wednesday and got some stuff to keep the nausea at bay |
| 23:33.46 | Adys | Night all, see you in two weeks |
| 23:33.55 | Cairenn | bye Adys! |
| 23:34.01 | Iriel | But I pretty much couldn't do a damn thing until friday because I couldn't concentrate or focus well enough to read |
| 23:34.01 | Cruciformer | Iriel: have you had your ears checked? Wouldnt something like grommits help if theres someething building up in there? |
| 23:34.03 | Cairenn | vacation? |
| 23:34.13 | Adys | seeing my father's in france |
| 23:34.19 | Cairenn | nice :) |
| 23:34.22 | Cairenn | have fun :) |
| 23:34.25 | amro | fathers, interesting |
| 23:34.29 | Iriel | No infection, no ear issues, no eye issues, just that strange inner ear wackiness that fixes itself. |
| 23:34.37 | Adys | cheers |
| 23:35.58 | Cruciformer | Iriel: I had an extreme example of this when I was in boarding school. A bully hit me flat-handed over both ears and burst both my eardrums (thus damaging my hearing for life). But for about a week after I could barely walk and when I did it was like I was drunk as hell. |
| 23:37.16 | Dagmar | "How to wipe in Naxx using beer" <-- It might be some time before I can actually watch this all the way through without laughing myself silly |
| 23:38.11 | Iriel | Consensus from others who've had it seems to place normality in the 1-2 week range, so that's another consistent data point. |
| 23:42.53 | Cruciformer | Question: Is the index value to GetmasterLootCandidate the same index number I would pass to GetRaidRosterInfo()? |
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| 23:47.36 | Cruciformer | ah crap its not. that would have been TOO useful. |
| 23:48.09 | Iriel | I think they're just enumerable candidates right? |
| 23:48.11 | Iriel | 1 though N |
| 23:48.12 | Iriel | for some N |
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| 23:48.21 | Cruciformer | yeah basically 1 through 40 |
| 23:48.43 | Iriel | With holes |
| 23:48.46 | Cruciformer | and if it returns a name, then that player is eligble for loot. |
| 23:48.47 | Iriel | by the look of things? |
| 23:49.10 | Iriel | Aha, so in a raid it's an encoding of group + slot |
| 23:49.15 | Iriel | in a party it's just party position |
| 23:49.32 | Iriel | judging by the carefully places 'break;' in the loot code's raid loop |
| 23:49.58 | Iriel | Hm, but that break is kind of wierd. |
| 23:50.12 | Cruciformer | LootFrame.lua? |
| 23:50.20 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 23:50.23 | Cruciformer | line? |
| 23:50.49 | Iriel | 239 or so in the version i'm looking at (2nd occurrence of Candidate) |
| 23:50.53 | Cruciformer | 249? |
| 23:50.59 | Cruciformer | yeah |
| 23:51.10 | Cruciformer | I was just looking at that myself |
| 23:51.23 | Iriel | I think it's just scanning for a member of the group |
| 23:51.30 | Iriel | then it creates a nested dropdown for that group |
| 23:55.04 | Cruciformer | ah I think I get it now. The index for GMLC() is 1-40 for a raid or 1-5 for a group, and the index corresponds 1-1 to teh raid position as displayed in teh blizzard frames. However the index to GetRaidRosterInfo() is just 1-40 and it has no bearing on the group number or position becuase the function itself returns which party its in. |
| 23:55.47 | Cruciformer | So GLMC(6) would check Group 2, member 1, GLMC(4) would check group 1, member no 4. |
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| 23:57.53 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: hey |
| 23:58.08 | Iriel | Cruciformer: that's how I read this, yes |
| 23:59.16 | Cruciformer | thats bothersome. |
