| 00:00.50 | Mikk | lua> print("You rock so much more than M".."ikma") |
| 00:00.50 | lua_bot | Mikk: You rock so much more than Mikma |
| 00:02.43 | mikma | s/Mikma/Mikma, when you are the last person on planet/ |
| 00:03.05 | nicoli_s | woot! my new website is about to launch :) |
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| 00:04.12 | Mikk | felt that way too |
| 00:04.17 | Mikk | ... in 96 |
| 00:04.39 | Mikk | Sorry, I'm tired. I'll just go to bed. |
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| 00:06.01 | Thunder_Child | 2 names i wouldnt trust, e-Rewards and u.talk.back |
| 00:10.54 | Lothaer | hey Tuller |
| 00:11.01 | Tuller | Lothaer: ? |
| 00:11.15 | Lothaer | so hows the new bagnon going |
| 00:11.16 | Lothaer | ? |
| 00:11.23 | Tuller | well, there's a beta on wowi |
| 00:11.32 | Lothaer | yeah im tempted to download it |
| 00:11.43 | Lothaer | <3<3<3<3 bagnon :D |
| 00:11.43 | Thunder_Child | but only tempted |
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| 00:12.20 | Lothaer | whats the main difference between 1.0 and 2.0? |
| 00:12.35 | Gnarfoz | 2.0 is not done |
| 00:12.38 | Gnarfoz | ? :) |
| 00:12.57 | Gnarfoz | (it has a weird broker display in it, too o_O) |
| 00:17.01 | Tuller | more bloat :p |
| 00:18.11 | Lothaer | lol |
| 00:18.23 | Lothaer | ill grab it once im done in OK |
| 00:19.16 | Thunder_Child | no |
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| 00:20.52 | NightHawkTheSane | this is rather amusing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUEO9Mfmn4M |
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| 00:29.33 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: wtf |
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| 00:32.13 | Lunessa | Tuller If baganon we skinnable, I'd *heart* you forever. |
| 00:32.17 | Lunessa | were |
| 00:33.23 | Gnarfoz | if Bagnon stayed like 1.x was, I'd do the same :D |
| 00:35.57 | Tuller | bah |
| 00:36.16 | NeoTron | I need to make an addon bagnoff |
| 00:36.43 | NeoTron | although admittedly a bag addon has been something I've considered making |
| 00:38.03 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb something like baggins with a config that doesn't make my head explode? :P |
| 00:38.24 | nicoli_s | btw, if yer into aion, the nda just dropped and we launched a new site, check it out www.aionarmory.com |
| 00:39.05 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: indeed. the config is horrid |
| 00:39.44 | NeoTron | does Aion have an extendable ui? |
| 00:39.50 | nicoli_s | sadly no |
| 00:46.13 | Lothaer | grr minion things Bagnon 2.0 is 1.0 >< |
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| 00:46.56 | NeoTron | that's a bummer |
| 00:47.10 | NeoTron | definitely one of the things that's extending the life of WoW for me |
| 00:47.30 | AnduinLothar | Bagnon? |
| 00:47.39 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 did apple finally fucking release java6 for osx? >< |
| 00:47.41 | Dagmar | Yet Another Bag Modifier |
| 00:47.42 | nicoli_s | yeah, hopefully more devs will start doing it |
| 00:48.00 | NeoTron | it's definitely more work for them to do it |
| 00:48.09 | AnduinLothar | NightHawkTheSane: it's been availible for a while but they just made it a software update push a few weeks ago |
| 00:48.12 | NeoTron | but the end result is a more vibrant community |
| 00:48.15 | NeoTron | if done right |
| 00:48.34 | AnduinLothar | and just now fixed the Safari Java security flaw |
| 00:48.38 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: ahh, i only just saw it on my macupdate rss feed just now. *shrug* |
| 00:48.47 | NeoTron | so how long until Diablo 3 release? Probably at least a year? |
| 00:50.26 | Lunessa | Actually, for baganon all I want is to change the button frame art and the background. I can do both with a little work on my part, so Tuller doesn't really need to do anything to it. |
| 00:51.03 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Are you working on aion? |
| 00:51.35 | nicoli_s | what do you mean working on? im doing our db site for it |
| 00:52.24 | Lunessa | I meant "part of the dev team" but... silly question, I see. |
| 00:52.52 | drfuzzykins | it says curse network not official aion site :P |
| 00:54.15 | AbsolutRayne | Ho hum |
| 00:56.58 | Lunessa | The game looks very much like it's a korean "Lineage/Lineage II" with better art. |
| 00:58.05 | Lothaer | i love the little LDB feature in bagnon 2.0 :D |
| 00:58.38 | Lothaer | i put my Mr. Plow LDB on it :D |
| 00:58.41 | Dagmar | It's probably the same engine |
| 00:59.26 | Dagmar | I love digging around in those asian clients. |
| 00:59.34 | Dagmar | Occasionally you'll find a list of pre-banned names. |
| 00:59.48 | Dagmar | An absolute treasure trove of obsene and blasphemous names. |
| 00:59.55 | Dagmar | s/obs/obsc/; |
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| 01:02.26 | AnduinLothar | Mikk, you maintaining Baggins? |
| 01:02.51 | nicoli_s | lunessa, its much less grindy |
| 01:04.23 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: It looks pretty. |
| 01:05.36 | nicoli_s | oh it is |
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| 01:06.12 | nicoli_s | i enjoyed the first beta preview |
| 01:07.15 | Lunessa | It would probably make my computer cry though. |
| 01:07.37 | nicoli_s | it runs suprisingly well on lower end hardware |
| 01:07.49 | nicoli_s | its a modified far cry engine |
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| 01:08.53 | Dagmar | Let's hope the AI is part of what they modified. |
| 01:08.57 | Adys | Shirik: ping |
| 01:09.00 | Lunessa | I'm not sure I'd make the jump to a new game unless it was absolutely amazing. |
| 01:09.09 | Shirik | Adys: pong |
| 01:09.19 | Adys | Shirik: you use kde right? |
| 01:09.39 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:09.51 | nicoli_s | well lunessa, i cant say if its amazing or not yet, but i really liked it |
| 01:10.16 | Adys | Shirik: how do I bind a key on "start terminal", "screenshot display" and "screenshot window"? |
| 01:10.38 | Shirik | hell if I know :) |
| 01:10.43 | Adys | jerk! |
| 01:10.43 | Adys | :( |
| 01:10.54 | Shirik | I use the start menu type in thingy |
| 01:10.54 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Is it largely PvP focused? |
| 01:10.54 | Adys | and any idea where I change the font? |
| 01:10.57 | Shirik | nope |
| 01:10.58 | nicoli_s | it has some really cool in game cinematics after certain quests/events, really draws you in |
| 01:11.01 | Shirik | I know very little about kde |
| 01:11.03 | Shirik | you probably know more than me |
| 01:11.06 | Shirik | I just use it |
| 01:11.21 | nicoli_s | Lunessa, not as much as like war, but PvE is pretty big in it, but i havent gotten to try it out yet |
| 01:12.16 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Thanks. I'm not a PvP guy - games are my escape and since I'm not good at PvP, I don't enjoy games where it's a central focus. |
| 01:17.57 | Dagmar | Adys: Fonta are under the appearance controls. Screenshot buttons *should* be the same as in Windows, at least the one time I used it they worked. |
| 01:18.29 | Dagmar | IIRC you have to drill down under theme details to set the fonts |
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| 01:19.26 | Adys | Dagmar: the same as in windows? |
| 01:19.38 | Adys | as in that completely retarded "loliminyourclipboard" thing? |
| 01:21.46 | Dagmar | Adys: Yes, KDE has a windows-envy problem |
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| 01:22.04 | Dagmar | ...although it *should* present you with a dialog about the new screenshot asking you where to save it. |
| 01:22.41 | Adys | Dagmar: I noticed, first thing i tried was apt-get remove windows-vista |
| 01:22.44 | Adys | wowplasmasucks |
| 01:22.56 | Adys | and no, no dialog |
| 01:22.58 | Adys | this is karmic tho |
| 01:25.19 | Dagmar | Having been using W7 and Ubuntu side by side for awhile, the Compiz stuff looks better. |
| 01:25.23 | Dagmar | ...which is kinda sad. |
| 01:25.49 | Dagmar | It makes Aero in W7 look like an overly done up streetwalker. |
| 01:26.12 | electric_ | anyone know if you are able to set functions that have parameters to an event using SetScipt(), for example Frame:SetScript("OnClick", func(a,b,c))? |
| 01:26.28 | alestane | electric_: Absolutely. |
| 01:26.59 | electric_ | i guessed so :P cant get it to work tho :( it just recursively loops :/ |
| 01:27.10 | alestane | For "OnClick", the function will receive the button clicked, the mouse button pressed to click it, and whether the button was being pressed or released as the arguments. |
| 01:27.45 | alestane | Recursion would mean that func was doing something to call itself or click itself. |
| 01:27.56 | Gnarfoz | <+nicoli_s> btw, if yer into aion, the nda just dropped and we launched a new site, check it out www.aionarmory.com <-- why oh why do you keep using highly compressed jpegs with tons of artifacts for the home pages of your DBs? :D |
| 01:28.09 | electric_ | ah so they are set arguments? or can i use my own as well? |
| 01:28.15 | Gnarfoz | I know it probably saves some traffic, but man does it look cheap :P |
| 01:28.45 | alestane | electric_: You can name them whatever you want, but when the frame calls it, that's what it's going to pass them. |
| 01:29.19 | electric_ | i see, thank you |
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| 01:30.16 | alestane | And be careful to make sure that you're not calling your function and passing the returns as the new script. |
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| 01:34.09 | Tuller | recursion is a magical device that must be looked out of, and not into the moon |
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| 01:36.28 | Lunessa | It really will be a bunch of tubes! http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/06/senators-introduce-run-the-tubes-under-the-highway-bill/ |
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| 01:43.02 | Tuller | that's an interesting photo |
| 01:43.11 | Adys | Dagmar: so uh, how do I remove plasma? |
| 01:43.20 | Adys | or disable most of this shitty system :P |
| 01:45.09 | Torhal | Adys: I just killall plasma, then run plasma again when I need it. Heh. |
| 01:45.34 | Adys | plasma: no process found |
| 01:45.45 | Torhal | ...weird. |
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| 01:45.49 | Lothaer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iioJ0UY4JHM |
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| 01:47.59 | Adys | so uh |
| 01:48.13 | Adys | any way to bind konsole on something? =/ |
| 01:48.30 | Torhal | Adys: Get yakuake. |
| 01:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | There is probably a million and a half ways |
| 01:48.50 | Torhal | Yakuake + screen == <3 |
| 01:49.04 | ScytheBlade1 | My preferred is alt+F2 --> "she" --> enter, or right-click the desktop |
| 01:49.18 | Adys | I dont care about a terminal emulator |
| 01:49.22 | Adys | I want to bind it to alt-f1 |
| 01:49.46 | Adys | Yakuake, in the same way as Kate, KDevelop and Konqueror, relies on Konsole to offer the terminal functionality, embedding it in the application as a KPart component. |
| 01:49.54 | Adys | woo, an interface to an interface to an interface |
| 01:49.58 | Adys | useful |
| 01:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kde4, I take it? |
| 01:50.07 | Torhal | Heh |
| 01:50.09 | Torhal | Aye |
| 01:50.52 | ScytheBlade1 | system settings --> input actions |
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| 01:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | make a new group (right-click), and a new action in that group |
| 01:51.09 | ScytheBlade1 | go crazy |
| 01:52.57 | Adys | horribly confusing |
| 01:53.07 | Adys | i mean its nice, but is this the only way? |
| 01:53.48 | ScytheBlade1 | If general global shortcuts (input actions..) grouped by... groups is horribly confusing |
| 01:53.50 | Adys | I cant figure out how to add a simple alt-f1 keybind on launching konsole here |
| 01:53.51 | ScytheBlade1 | sure |
| 01:53.57 | ScytheBlade1 | make a new binding, to a command |
| 01:54.08 | ScytheBlade1 | set the key to alt+F1, command to konsole |
| 01:54.28 | Adys | conflict |
| 01:54.31 | Adys | FUCK OFF PLASMA >< |
| 01:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That is expected |
| 01:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Because alt+F1 is the "start menu" |
| 01:54.44 | Adys | yeha |
| 01:54.47 | Adys | I disabled it though |
| 01:54.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Just hit use this one instead and it'll resolve the conflict |
| 01:55.01 | Wobin | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SjHLGke5CrI/AAAAAAAAHok/mvvxZ7ZN1Rk/s1600-h/tetris+cats.jpg |
| 01:55.29 | Adys | wow |
| 01:55.34 | Adys | I clicked wobin's link 3 times |
| 01:55.37 | Adys | it launched 3 different apps |
| 01:55.42 | Adys | and I still dont see the image |
| 01:55.57 | Wobin | ... it works for me? |
| 01:56.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Three _different_ apps? |
| 01:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | w t f? |
| 01:56.19 | Adys | first time it launched img viewer, complaining the location was already mounted. then it launched gedit, which was viewing the source firefox was outputting |
| 01:56.21 | ScytheBlade1 | What client are you using? |
| 01:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | (IRC) |
| 01:56.35 | Adys | then it launched firefox, which complained an instance of firefox was already running |
| 01:56.36 | Adys | xchat |
| 01:56.39 | Shirik | omg |
| 01:56.42 | Shirik | konversation! |
| 01:56.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... which is a gnome app, under kde |
| 01:56.45 | Adys | no |
| 01:56.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Which means you have to dig out the gnome browser config |
| 01:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | or whatever it is |
| 01:57.03 | Adys | yeah |
| 01:57.06 | Adys | its set to google chrome |
| 01:57.38 | Adys | (xchat uses gtk, that doesnt make it a gnome app) |
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| 01:57.57 | ScytheBlade1 | rephrase then |
| 01:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | xchat uses gnome's browser settings |
| 01:58.06 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 01:58.10 | Adys | yeah |
| 01:58.13 | Adys | google-chrome %s |
| 01:58.25 | Adys | so far I got gedit, eog and firefox. |
| 01:58.34 | Adys | Im gonna click a 4th time see what I get! |
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| 01:59.05 | Adys_ | haha. |
| 01:59.43 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:59.45 | Adys_ | I think it just picks a random app |
| 02:00.14 | ScytheBlade1 | It kinda looks like it to be honest |
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| 02:03.50 | Kraps | mtn dew commercial is epic |
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| 02:05.20 | Fisker | no |
| 02:05.40 | Fisker | not even a heartbeats per minute raise |
| 02:06.07 | Torhal | I concur with Konversation. |
| 02:06.14 | Kraps | your opinion doesnt count Fisker |
| 02:07.11 | Kraps | Torhal: ? |
| 02:07.25 | Fisker | actually Kraps |
| 02:07.29 | Adys_ | ScytheBlade1: lol |
| 02:07.31 | Fisker | your opinion doesn't count |
| 02:07.36 | Adys_ | it launched lynx from a pidgin link |
| 02:07.36 | Fisker | which is what i was trying to tell you |
| 02:07.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:07.59 | ScytheBlade1 | that's classy |
| 02:08.04 | ScytheBlade1 | what distro? |
| 02:08.12 | Adys_ | karmic |
| 02:08.18 | ScytheBlade1 | never heard of it |
| 02:08.22 | Torhal | Kraps: [21:56] <Shirik> konversation! |
| 02:08.23 | Adys_ | ubuntu karmic |
| 02:08.29 | Kraps | cool story Fisker |
| 02:08.32 | Shirik | Torhal ^_^ |
| 02:08.34 | ScytheBlade1 | oh |
| 02:08.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 02:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | There's your problem |
| 02:10.05 | Kraps | "Quickly, what is the mass and radius of Azeroth and why is the rate of acceleration the same in Outlands as it is on the main world? " |
| 02:10.16 | Adys_ | outland |
| 02:10.43 | Kraps | i didn't write it >_> |
| 02:11.16 | ScytheBlade1 | irrelevant, irrelevant, and because WoW's physics system sucks |
| 02:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | (a) and (b) are due to (c) there |
| 02:12.32 | Kraps | someone on the forums wants to know at what rate people in wow fall |
| 02:12.50 | ScytheBlade1 | too bad for them |
| 02:12.56 | ScytheBlade1 | We don't have access to the Z axis so |
| 02:14.28 | Shirik | well it's easy to figure out |
| 02:15.15 | Shirik | we know the distance for 100% fall damage, therefore it's simple calculus to figure out the rate of acceleration, assuming wow uses constant acceleration with no air resistance |
| 02:16.36 | Kraps | there must be a bit of acceleration at the start of a fall |
| 02:16.46 | Kraps | then constant |
| 02:16.53 | Shirik | proof please |
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| 02:17.37 | Kraps | thats how it "feels" |
| 02:17.45 | Adys_ | what was the name of the decent app for screenshots? |
| 02:17.48 | Adys_ | not ksnapshot: the other. |
| 02:17.59 | ScytheBlade1 | gimp? |
| 02:18.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I wind up using |
| 02:18.04 | Adys_ | no |
| 02:18.06 | Adys_ | taking screenshots |
| 02:18.08 | Gnarfoz | Adys: scrot |
| 02:18.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It does that! |
| 02:18.14 | Adys_ | wat |
| 02:18.22 | bleeter | i tend to use the desktop to do the SS foo for me |
| 02:18.42 | bleeter | most of them have a setting/app somewhere to do it |
| 02:18.46 | Thunder_Child | hypersnap |
| 02:18.56 | bleeter | what I'd prefer tho, is lack of crap from nvidia drivers! |
| 02:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I've been using nouveau on f11 pretty happily, once I got a minor issue resolved |
| 02:20.07 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: what minor issue? ;) |
| 02:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 02:20.12 | ScytheBlade1 | You'll enjoy this |
| 02:20.12 | bleeter | X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) |
| 02:20.15 | bleeter | kinda stuff? |
| 02:20.15 | Adys_ | wtf guys |
| 02:20.29 | Adys_ | you use nvidia, you got the privilege of having GREAT official drivers |
| 02:20.29 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 02:20.31 | Adys_ | fucking use them |
| 02:20.44 | bleeter | Adys_: yes, I *AM* trying to use them |
| 02:20.49 | bleeter | it vomits everywhere |
| 02:20.56 | Adys_ | your mom vomits everywhere |
| 02:20.58 | Adys_ | when she sees you |
| 02:21.08 | bleeter | whereas, the open source r300 drivers, although a little slow and buggy, actually work to some degree |
| 02:21.45 | bleeter | I don't see what's so great about a driver that fucks up, but that's just me |
| 02:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys_: no, for one reason: the crap involved with kernel updates. I don't want to have a kernel update --> reboot involve editing the inittab, rebuilding/reinstalling the driver, fixing inittab, starting X, and rebuilding wine |
| 02:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | forget. that. |
| 02:22.19 | Adys_ | what the hell? |
| 02:22.22 | bleeter | hmm yeah I ain't forced nouveau out of my initrd, might try that next |
| 02:22.25 | Adys_ | worst you have to do is rebuild the drivers |
| 02:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 02:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Because on the reboot, X will fail to start and yell at you |
| 02:22.59 | ScytheBlade1 | second, I can't count the times it broke my wine install due to changing opengl libs |
| 02:22.59 | Adys_ | yes |
| 02:23.06 | Adys_ | at that point rebuild it |
| 02:23.13 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504934 |
| 02:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: be sure to check the second attached screenshot |
| 02:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | (and compare it to the first, working one) |
| 02:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | (That was supposedly dual head mode) |
| 02:25.13 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: sexy |
| 02:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | very |
| 02:25.18 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: lemme show you my r300 |
| 02:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:25.28 | ScytheBlade1 | that can only end poorly |
| 02:25.42 | bleeter | lies |
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| 02:26.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I got it working fine, after debugging with a developer for a good hour or two |
| 02:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | But it was worth the effort I'd say |
| 02:26.14 | Kraps | iran is getting really fucked up right now |
| 02:26.17 | bleeter | http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/kantankerus/WoW/Screenshot-6.png |
| 02:26.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Despite the fact that I have no 2/3D accel, Xv, nothing at all |
| 02:26.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (And thanks to this CPU, I can still play multiple 1080p movies at the same time... good stuff) |
| 02:26.47 | Thunder_Child | is it that card to clear the account name! |
| 02:26.53 | sacarasc | bleeter: The snow looks cool, at least. |
| 02:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:26.57 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: updating the mesa drivers to fix an accounting bug kinda helped, but not totally |
| 02:26.59 | ScytheBlade1 | cool snow indeed |
| 02:27.06 | bleeter | the snow's freakin' awesome |
| 02:27.11 | Thunder_Child | s/c/h/ |
| 02:27.16 | bleeter | so is the see-thru bloodelf on the char select |
| 02:27.23 | bleeter | I didn't get a screen of that |
| 02:27.56 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: saved bnet account name and drop-down account selector, yeah annoying ;) |
| 02:29.14 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, eh, dropdown? |
| 02:29.30 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: more than one wow account on my bnet account |
| 02:29.42 | Thunder_Child | oh, didnt know it did a dropdown |
| 02:29.46 | Thunder_Child | nifty |
| 02:34.09 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:35.20 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: it's kinda annoying as it seems to get case sensitive, or something equally stupid, when switching from WinXP to *nix/Wine, it'll blank those settings out |
| 02:35.36 | AnduinLothar | Judgement of Wisdom do anythign on General? |
| 02:35.47 | bleeter | one of those 'seemingly astoundingly stupid things' that 'just happens' |
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| 02:38.02 | electric_ | is it actually possible to sort a table full of tables like table.sort(activeTable, function(a,b) return a[1]>b[1] end)? cos i keep getting nil value errors :/ |
| 02:43.44 | electric_ | guess not =( |
| 02:44.33 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 02:44.39 | cogwheel | is comcast free |
| 02:44.43 | electric_ | oh :o |
| 02:44.49 | Shirik | if it's not working for you then you're doing it wrong (tm) |
| 02:45.04 | electric_ | looks like it =P |
| 02:45.07 | Shirik | lua> pp |
| 02:45.08 | Adys | ⢠|
| 02:45.17 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x9adcef8 |
| 02:46.11 | Shirik | lua> t = {{1,2,3}, {3,4,5}, {2,3,4}}; table.sort(t, function(t1, t2) return t1[1] > t2[1] end); pp(t) |
| 02:46.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: { { 3, 4, 5 } (#2), { 2, 3, 4 } (#3), { 1, 2, 3 } (#4) } (#1) |
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| 02:46.50 | electric_ | doh, typos ftl |
| 02:47.00 | electric_ | works perfect now :D |
| 02:47.02 | electric_ | cheers |
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| 02:59.31 | Shirik | cheers at cogwheel |
| 03:11.34 | End | beeps. |
| 03:11.40 | End | i'm a robot |
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| 03:13.02 | Fisker | and boom goes the dynamite |
| 03:13.12 | AbsolutRayne | \o/ |
| 03:13.56 | cogwheel | End: no ur a jeep! |
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| 03:14.59 | cogwheel | http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/15/a-virtual-bank-with-real-world-woes/ <-- the kind of thing that makes me love Eve |
| 03:17.02 | End | cogwheel: no u |
| 03:19.00 | tekkub | cogwheel: beep bepp I'm a jeep too :P |
| 03:23.23 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CXSTBaUsk |
| 03:23.29 | Wobin | I cannot get this song out of my head |
| 03:25.34 | cogwheel | i can't get this one out of mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1_0SUGlDQ (no not rickroll) |
| 03:26.44 | Wobin | lets trade |
| 03:26.48 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 03:28.12 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:28.25 | Fisker | slapped the wrong guy :( |
| 03:28.58 | Wobin | hehe I like your tricycle |
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| 03:30.49 | Fisker | http://notalwaysright.com/do-not-mix-empty-threats-loaded-barrels/2087 <- So that mythbusters episode about curving bullets was actually a public service announcement |
| 03:31.48 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 03:44.02 | Zyndrome | someone always wants to prove the opposite, and Darwin rolls in his grave |
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| 03:45.09 | Zyndrome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crfGXmxJ1vM&feature=player_embedded&fmt=18 ... dear lord... |
| 03:47.15 | Corrodias | popular for many years among midgets, now it's trying to become mainstream? |
| 03:47.35 | Corrodias | (actually i have no idea whether this model is popular at all) |
| 03:49.31 | mikma | zyndrome: so, an arm extensioner that will help you wipe your ass without touching the toilet paper |
| 03:49.45 | Zyndrome | revolutionary |
| 03:50.13 | Corrodias | i'm pretty darn sure it's old technology. and i wasn't aware it needed to be marketted. but who knows. |
| 03:50.29 | Corrodias | the youtube comments are, as usual, worthless :| |
| 04:01.06 | Fisker | I AM UNSTOPPABLE |
| 04:02.34 | Fisker | wins |
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| 04:11.04 | Fisker | brs |
| 04:11.06 | Fisker | brrrs |
| 04:11.41 | Dewin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13562-TweakWoW.html |
| 04:11.46 | Dewin | ... |
| 04:11.47 | Dewin | wrong window |
| 04:11.51 | Fisker | owned |
| 04:12.00 | Fisker | brrrs a bit more |
| 04:12.09 | Dewin | at least I brrrroke the cycle? |
| 04:12.24 | Fisker | brrrr |
| 04:13.14 | mikma | TweakWoW is nice, useless, but nice :P |
| 04:14.30 | AnduinLothar | GUI ftw |
| 04:14.40 | AnduinLothar | best option: spell detail |
| 04:15.00 | AnduinLothar | tho seriously all you really need is 50-200 maybe |
| 04:15.09 | AnduinLothar | anything over 200 is pointless |
| 04:17.15 | mikma | i always turn everything to 0 :D |
| 04:17.23 | AnduinLothar | why... |
| 04:17.35 | mikma | cause my pc can't handle the eyecandy |
| 04:17.44 | mikma | i'll rather take max fps (10+) |
| 04:18.12 | mikma | uuh, aah, now i have 30.2! |
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| 04:34.07 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:34.24 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 04:34.24 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
| 04:34.27 | mikma | shoo, troll |
| 04:34.47 | Fisker | no u |
| 04:35.07 | cogwheel | purrs at his new internet connection |
| 04:35.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Is it fast? |
| 04:35.36 | cogwheel | sustained DL of ~2 MB/s |
| 04:35.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Not too shabby :) |
| 04:36.05 | Shirik | cogwheel: mine is kinda cool ^_^ |
| 04:36.09 | Shirik | It's microwave! |
| 04:36.16 | cogwheel | i used to have one of those! |
| 04:36.21 | Thunder_Child | speedy DL's and hot food |
| 04:36.24 | Shirik | and it's actually pretty decent |
| 04:36.27 | cogwheel | back when there was no dsl or cable in my neighborhood |
| 04:36.38 | cogwheel | but it was only 1.5mbps |
| 04:36.43 | Shirik | I have 4 :) |
| 04:36.56 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 04:36.58 | Shirik | well it's supposed to be 3, but router's tests are showing 4 |
| 04:36.58 | cogwheel | of course this was about 6 years ago |
| 04:37.32 | Shirik | and I'm getting about a 50ms ping to wow |
| 04:37.53 | Shirik | until roommates come home and start up their torrents |
| 04:37.57 | Shirik | then it goes closer to 500 |
| 04:38.30 | ScytheBlade1 | jerks need to understand what upstream bandwidth is |
| 04:38.44 | cogwheel | ScytheBlade1: i don't torrent much so meh :P |
| 04:38.46 | Shirik | no |
| 04:38.50 | Shirik | they just need to learn what QoS is |
| 04:38.56 | Shirik | because tehy gonna be living it |
| 04:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:39.21 | Shirik | and by QoS I mean something closer to "Quality policy: nonexistent if mac address != mine" |
| 04:39.26 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:39.41 | kd3 | heh. that's how I run my network |
| 04:39.48 | Fisker | Quality of Shirik |
| 04:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | same! |
| 04:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | well, not Fisker's definition |
| 04:40.06 | cogwheel | i has a wife with similar net demands so i can't run my network that way :P |
| 04:40.26 | Fisker | i have over NINE THOUSAND MEGA bits |
| 04:40.44 | Fisker | or more like ~15 |
| 04:40.52 | Fisker | but it's more than yours hoho |
| 04:41.06 | Shirik | my balls are bigger |
| 04:41.13 | Fisker | naw |
| 04:41.18 | Fisker | not anymore |
| 04:41.29 | cogwheel | pets his 18 |
| 04:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | wouldn't mind 18mbit |
| 04:41.48 | ScytheBlade1 | sighs at his 6mbit |
| 04:41.55 | kd3 | looks at his 1.5 and cries |
| 04:42.17 | Shirik | huggles kd3 |
| 04:42.20 | cogwheel | you should've heard comcast groveling when i called to cancel >:D |
| 04:42.28 | Shirik | kd3, I'm not sure you can call that 1.5 |
| 04:42.29 | cogwheel | so satisfying |
| 04:42.34 | Shirik | you might be able to call it 20% of 1.5 |
| 04:42.39 | Fisker | AOL style cogwheel? |
| 04:42.40 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:42.57 | Fisker | I wish i could get a better provider here :( |
| 04:43.35 | Fisker | Technically my connection is 20Mbit, but the hardware have known issues past 10Mbit, and it maxes out at 15Mbit, while having stability issues sometimes |
| 04:43.38 | Fisker | ;( |
| 04:43.55 | cogwheel | technically mine's 25 but 7 is used for TV |
| 04:43.56 | Fisker | But i need those high speeds for stuff like email |
| 04:43.58 | Fisker | and pictures |
| 04:44.00 | Fisker | and youtube |
| 04:44.05 | Fisker | nothing illegal or something like that |
| 04:44.13 | Fisker | whistles innocently |
| 04:44.24 | Shirik | who needs TV |
| 04:44.30 | ScytheBlade1 | not TV torrent sites, right Fisker ? |
| 04:44.37 | Fisker | On the plusside they maintain newsgroups without any kind of filtering on the content |
| 04:44.40 | cogwheel | Shirik: people who want $250 cash back for installing uverse ;) |
| 04:44.43 | Fisker | of course not ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:45.27 | ScytheBlade1 | and of course, never rss-based TV torrent sites that'll deliver any show in HD moments after it was first aired without any interaction on your part |
| 04:45.35 | ScytheBlade1 | (For the record, I actually have -zero- care for TV) |
| 04:45.40 | Fisker | same |
| 04:46.04 | Fisker | Any shows worth watching won't be aired in this network until a couple of years after the launch |
| 04:46.05 | cogwheel | we got rid of our satellite a couple months ago. actually i didn't miss it much |
| 04:46.53 | cogwheel | but we had to have the most expensive package sans sports in order to get the channels we wanted |
| 04:46.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm decently sure I'll never own a TV or pay a cable/satellite company |
| 04:46.55 | Shirik | I only watch TV every so often |
| 04:47.03 | Fisker | For example Lost just started showing on tv some weeks ago |
| 04:47.05 | ScytheBlade1 | well, for TV |
| 04:47.08 | Fisker | And that's like at season 6 now |
| 04:47.20 | cogwheel | with uverse the lowest package has all the channels we want |
| 04:47.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: i own a tv, but purely for consoles and streaming video from my computer/appletv :P |
| 04:47.39 | Fisker | NightHawkTheSane just get a 24" monitor :P |
| 04:47.45 | Fisker | With HDMI output of ofcourse |
| 04:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Even then, I'm decently sure I'll only ever buy displays intended for computers |
| 04:48.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Though the line is blurring |
| 04:48.40 | Fisker | Wouldn't be surprised to see tuners being all the rage in pc monitors soon |
| 04:48.47 | NightHawkTheSane | my tv does have vga input, actually.. |
| 04:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I know a few people who have tuners built into their displays |
| 04:49.02 | ScytheBlade1 | .. haha |
| 04:49.05 | Fisker | Atleast there's a market for putting tuners in PC's like hauppauge and all that |
| 04:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | One of them has comcast TV |
| 04:49.07 | cogwheel | quick: someone give me an obscure "H" name along the lines of Hegeworth, Hobson, Humpty, etc... |
| 04:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | resolution is kinda shit, but for displaying video it works great |
| 04:49.17 | Fisker | Hauppauge! |
| 04:49.20 | Shirik | my guild chat is very scary |
| 04:49.21 | ScytheBlade1 | His monitor has a digital TV broadcast tuner |
| 04:49.22 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: hubert |
| 04:49.31 | Shirik | "I'm lagging bad" |
| 04:49.35 | Shirik | "The tubes are clogged" |
| 04:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Local channels he gets over the air look infinitely better than comcast ones |
| 04:49.41 | Shirik | "You need some internet drano or some shit" |
| 04:49.54 | cogwheel | Hubert it is |
| 04:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | (yay video compression) |
| 04:50.14 | NightHawkTheSane | dare i ask for what? |
| 04:50.23 | cogwheel | you named my windows 7 installation ;) |
| 04:50.31 | Fisker | i hate you cogwheel |
| 04:50.31 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! |
| 04:50.32 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:50.46 | cogwheel | Fisker: i'd never remember how to spell/pronounce that :P |
| 04:50.46 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel you are wierd |
| 04:50.49 | Fisker | also kinda tired for waking up at 4am |
| 04:51.03 | Fisker | "I'm lagging bad" |
| 04:51.24 | cogwheel | Fisker: though you win for obscurity ;) |
| 04:52.37 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: this took you 4 years to figure out? |
| 04:53.19 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel, actually yes |
| 04:53.28 | Shirik | so like |
| 04:53.34 | Shirik | does Blizzard know about their whole authentication problem? |
| 04:53.54 | Shirik | they've reverted to something even worse than the times of "A character with that name already exists" |
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| 04:54.35 | Fisker | what problems are those? :3 |
| 04:56.20 | Shirik | disconnecting you when you log in |
| 04:56.24 | Shirik | immediately |
| 04:56.29 | Shirik | until your character drops of |
| 04:56.33 | kd3 | oh I love that |
| 04:56.53 | Fisker | not a problem on eu luckily |
| 04:56.56 | VonhintenHOME` | Shirik, I'd like to believe they're simply overwhelmed by the unbelievable tough "Addition instances cannot be launched" error... |
| 04:57.03 | Fisker | but cogwheel is a jerk because he's not playing wow :( |
| 04:57.08 | Shirik | I don't have any problem like that |
| 04:57.11 | Shirik | you know what I have to say to those people |
| 04:57.17 | Shirik | try spreading out the damn load |
| 04:57.56 | VonhintenHOME` | I dunno, I haven't run an instance all day, 1am my time now, and I'm getting the message |
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| 04:58.20 | cogwheel | Fisker: if that's what defines a jerk then i'm happy to be in the company of steve martin ;) |
| 04:58.43 | Adys | steve martin is a jerk for other reasons |
| 04:59.57 | bleeter | kd3: and lol was it my imagination or did rpmfusion just push the new nvidia drivers? |
| 05:00.32 | kd3 | probably, but I'm running them anyway |
| 05:00.35 | bleeter | damnit neither of which they, nor the adding in every 32bit lib I can think of, helped garrarararar |
| 05:00.39 | kd3 | rolls his own nvidia rpms |
| 05:00.56 | Thunder_Child | you sound like a pot head |
| 05:01.15 | cogwheel | that's some good package, man |
| 05:01.35 | cogwheel | tokes |
| 05:01.38 | Fisker | rolls some joints |
| 05:01.39 | bleeter | kd3: it wouldn't be quite as annoying if some tool alsa developer had decided my 6 channel pro audio card can't be run with 2 chans being 'front' and therefore now is broken under pulse |
| 05:01.52 | cogwheel | coughs |
| 05:01.53 | bleeter | so yeah, no wow.. and even if it did, i'd not get any sound |
| 05:01.57 | kd3 | grr |
| 05:02.13 | bleeter | actually, I tell a lie.. because of the bug where pulse will default to digital out.. I'd have that |
| 05:02.42 | bleeter | 'cept all my digital audio around here is optical .. and I've never connected the m-audio digital out 'coz it's coax-ish type foo arghargahrgahgr |
| 05:02.58 | bleeter | lol ah the fun |
| 05:04.01 | bleeter | the wine 'test sound' sound remains the most fail thing I've ever heard, and I've heard a bucket load of fail in my time |
| 05:04.16 | kd3 | indeed |
| 05:04.23 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go.. electric blanket underneath my sheets |
| 05:04.27 | Fisker | tests kd3 |
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| 05:17.09 | mikma | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/193.html |
| 05:17.44 | Adys | this one opened xterm |
| 05:17.46 | Adys | i give up |
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| 05:28.54 | Fisker | btw it's fail mikma |
| 05:30.25 | mikma | like you |
| 05:31.37 | Torhal | mikma: Because I know this will please you, I am about to approve an update to http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/wintertime/ on CurseForge. |
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| 05:31.41 | Torhal | whistles innocently. |
| 05:32.08 | mikma | torhal: wut, wat |
| 05:32.16 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 05:32.22 | mikma | let me guess |
| 05:32.30 | mikma | he changed the sync string? xD |
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| 05:33.08 | Torhal | Looks like simply bugfixes. |
| 05:33.44 | mikma | torhal: well, what's the catch then? |
| 05:34.07 | Torhal | Oh, you're always complaining about all these Wintergrasp timer AddOns. I figured I'd throw some fuel on your fire. :) |
| 05:34.18 | mikma | torhal: oh my addon already supports that one :D |
| 05:34.38 | Torhal | Figured, after you mentioned the sync string :) |
| 05:34.48 | mikma | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw28134.jpg |
| 05:35.16 | mikma | i'm having my own "contest" that when will mejina change the string cause my addon can get the time from WinterTime now :D |
| 05:35.53 | Torhal | He's being malicious? |
| 05:36.42 | mikma | no, but very competitious ^^ |
| 05:37.14 | mikma | back in the time when i released WintergraspTimer some people made some comments about his addon (not me!) and he verbally attacked them back :D |
| 05:37.44 | Torhal | Wow |
| 05:37.47 | Torhal | Owell. |
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| 05:41.24 | mikma | wee! first comment on my WG+ in wowi <3 |
| 05:42.28 | Torhal | Nice one, too :) |
| 05:42.58 | mikma | torhal: make me a GUI for adding spells in L2Play plx!!1 :D |
| 05:43.11 | Torhal | ?!? |
| 05:43.52 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_061509_004432.jpg <- the green buttons etc over the chat is my addon "L2Play" :D |
| 05:43.59 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FL2Play%2FL2Play.lua |
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| 05:46.58 | _rane | what does it do? |
| 05:47.16 | _rane | ah |
| 05:47.17 | mikma | adds a spellrotation of your choice on screen |
| 05:47.25 | Fisker | http://explicit.bing.net/ :3 |
| 05:47.47 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 05:47.50 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: interesting |
| 05:47.53 | mikma | advances to the next one if the previous spell hit the target, and colors the button green. if the spell misses, colors red and doesn't advance |
| 05:48.11 | mikma | it should work "ok" now, but adding the rotations is a ***** |
| 05:48.12 | Torhal | mikma: The first thing that comes to mind that you could possibly rob is tekkub's SYC. |
| 05:48.34 | Torhal | If you're talking about dragging stuff from your spellbook... |
| 05:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: i assume it's just basic a->b->c->d, and doesn't really handle procs? |
| 05:48.44 | Fisker | you mean like SHIT mikma ? |
| 05:48.59 | mikma | torhal: yes, that's what i had in mind actually, that's propably the best way to do a gui :P |
| 05:49.07 | tekkub | DO NOT STEAL MY CODE OR I WILL DO HORRIBLE THINGS TO YOUR ASS WHILE YOU SLEEP |
| 05:49.18 | bleeter | steals tekkub's code |
| 05:49.24 | bleeter | merely to force him to travel around the planet |
| 05:49.25 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: well, i hope i did manage to eliminate the shaman-procs at elemental spec :P |
| 05:49.28 | Torhal | tekkub: I thought that's exactly why you encouraged people to steal your code... |
| 05:49.53 | bleeter | btw, touch my donkey and you'll be answering to the RSPCA |
| 05:49.57 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: there's the talent that throws a identical spell (lightning bolt / chain lightning) with half the damage |
| 05:50.39 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: well, i mostly meant stuff like 'do rotation normally unless X procs, then use X and continue" |
| 05:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | things like SV hunters' lock & load |
| 05:51.19 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: nope, follows the rotation ordered |
| 05:52.21 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* figured. support for things like that might be nice, but probably not terribly necessary |
| 05:52.41 | Tem | lol awesome |
| 05:52.44 | mikma | and, terribly hard to code, too! |
| 05:52.50 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 05:52.52 | NightHawkTheSane | psh, wimp! |
| 05:53.03 | Tem | 6/14/09: Someone zergs freya hard mode |
| 05:53.14 | Tem | 6/15/09: Recent in game fixes.... The additional healing Freya receives, through the Attuned to Nature buff, has been increased. |
| 05:53.22 | mikma | getting the rotation to work properly was a huge job itself :P |
| 05:54.38 | _rane | mikma: that your UI btw? |
| 05:54.45 | mikma | _rane: yeap |
| 05:55.06 | Fisker | i wonder if they nerfed the achievement yet then |
| 05:55.08 | Shirik | it's ugly isn't it |
| 05:55.18 | Fisker | also Tem |
| 05:55.19 | _rane | your hotkeys make me shiver .) |
| 05:55.21 | Fisker | i think it's a world first |
| 05:55.24 | Fisker | Blizzard being consistent |
| 05:56.31 | mikma | _rane: is that a good thing or a bad thing |
| 05:57.33 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 05:57.37 | Fisker | i have a trikc you should try |
| 05:57.40 | Fisker | trick* |
| 05:57.44 | _rane | mikma: a bad :) |
| 05:57.55 | Fisker | http://notalwaysright.com/do-not-mix-empty-threats-loaded-barrels/2087 |
| 05:58.17 | mikma | _rane: good. cause, i don't aim to please anyone ;) |
| 05:58.38 | mikma | ooold |
| 05:58.52 | Fisker | Is your addon like SHIT mikma ? |
| 05:59.46 | mikma | fisker: no |
| 05:59.48 | Torhal | mikma: I've heard that Fisker's kidneys are Black Market worthy. |
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| 06:00.03 | mikma | torhal: oh, i hope someone will find out |
| 06:00.11 | Fisker | i disagree mikma |
| 06:00.12 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:00.16 | Fisker | I think it's exactly like SHIT |
| 06:00.21 | mikma | oh, the troll disagrees |
| 06:00.25 | mikma | how sad for.. everyone |
| 06:00.30 | Fisker | i'm not a troll |
| 06:00.36 | Fisker | Blood Elf Paladin! |
| 06:00.47 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:00.51 | Shirik | no wonder your head is messed up |
| 06:00.58 | Shirik | shoulda been a priest |
| 06:01.00 | Fisker | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/serious-help-timing.aspx <-Isn't that rotations as well mikma ? |
| 06:01.18 | mikma | shirik: a little bankick to fisker will clear his head ^^ |
| 06:01.22 | mikma | fisker: i don't know |
| 06:01.49 | Fisker | oh but it is |
| 06:01.54 | Fisker | L2Play = SHIT |
| 06:02.00 | Fisker | in terms of features |
| 06:02.10 | _rane | someone really should create an alternative for power auras classic .) |
| 06:02.12 | mikma | fisker = troll |
| 06:02.27 | Fisker | mikma = failuretroll :( |
| 06:02.45 | Bruners | fisker = fish |
| 06:02.45 | mikma | "This addon will provide a recommendation for Ret Paladin's FCFS rotation." |
| 06:02.55 | Fisker | well played Bruners |
| 06:02.57 | mikma | L2Read |
| 06:03.26 | Wobin | mikma: isn't that just "Slam Face Against Keyboard"? |
| 06:03.48 | Fisker | it doesn't work that well anymore Wobin |
| 06:03.49 | mikma | wobin: no, that's hunter? |
| 06:03.55 | Fisker | because we have to use some abillities without a cooldown |
| 06:04.10 | Wobin | no no |
| 06:04.13 | Wobin | hunters Faceroll |
| 06:04.25 | Wobin | takes less coordination |
| 06:04.39 | Fisker | gotta find that animation |
| 06:05.01 | Thunder_Child | i dont quite understand why people are keygening win7 |
| 06:05.01 | bleeter | Wobin: aussies shake the sauce bottle |
| 06:05.12 | Fisker | http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb57/01SonofAbe/keyboardsmash.gif |
| 06:05.17 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: people are idiots? |
| 06:05.26 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, well other than that |
| 06:05.54 | Fisker | so they can sneak in malware? |
| 06:06.05 | Thunder_Child | keygens are clen |
| 06:06.08 | Thunder_Child | clean* |
| 06:06.21 | Thunder_Child | oh well |
| 06:06.31 | Fisker | well i guess you can say the same for games :P |
| 06:06.47 | Thunder_Child | games arent free though |
| 06:06.51 | Thunder_Child | most of the time |
| 06:06.54 | Fisker | true |
| 06:07.01 | Fisker | But the keygen is kinda irrelevant still |
| 06:07.09 | Fisker | As the nfo usually has a set of keys |
| 06:07.17 | Fisker | and it's rare that you get a lan game with it, etc. |
| 06:07.45 | Bruners | when was it deceided windows 7 will be free? |
| 06:07.58 | Fisker | it wasn't |
| 06:08.00 | Thunder_Child | RC1 |
| 06:08.01 | Fisker | but the beta is free |
| 06:08.16 | Fisker | or evaluation or whatever you wanna call it |
| 06:08.44 | Fisker | I'm gonna get myself a Windows 7 E-Edition |
| 06:08.45 | Bruners | so a keygen is not that stupid then ? |
| 06:08.55 | Fisker | so i can hassle myself with batshit insane versions |
| 06:09.04 | Fisker | It is if it's a keygen for the beta Bruners |
| 06:09.04 | Thunder_Child | Bruners, keygen for the RC1 |
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| 06:10.48 | Bruners | and if microsoft then bans the RC1 keys that are out, then what |
| 06:11.26 | Fisker | No key will valid when the beta's expiration is due |
| 06:11.31 | Fisker | And every other key will be valid until then |
| 06:11.43 | Thunder_Child | and the keys are free to get |
| 06:13.06 | zenzio | funky, I mention trying our Linode on Twitter (not using any #tags or whatnot), and a couple of hours later Linode is following me o_O |
| 06:13.50 | Fisker | funky, i don't mention shit on public websites and a couple of hours later nothing |
| 06:13.51 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:14.06 | zenzio | don't worry Fisker, I still love you |
| 06:14.12 | zenzio | what happened to your hyphen? |
| 06:14.32 | Fisker | mikma cut it off |
| 06:14.56 | Thunder_Child | one assumes Fisker finaly opened up when freenode cleared house |
| 06:15.41 | zenzio | hm, good point, I'd forgotten about that clean-up |
| 06:17.19 | Shirik | "if the future isn't what it used to be, does that mean the past is subject to change in times to come?" |
| 06:18.41 | Thunder_Child | verbal trickery. but correct. |
| 06:20.33 | Fisker | oh |
| 06:20.38 | Fisker | ffffffffffuuuuuuuuu- zenzelezz |
| 06:21.19 | Fisker | wanted to stalk you |
| 06:21.22 | Fisker | so i looked up Linode |
| 06:21.32 | Fisker | but i couldn't see all the people they had subscribed to |
| 06:21.36 | zenzio | haha |
| 06:21.38 | Fisker | Then i found out your name was in the whois |
| 06:21.50 | zenzio | yeah |
| 06:22.29 | Fisker | so now i'm stalking you |
| 06:23.01 | zenzio | on an unrelated note, every time I hear the recording industry complain about CD sales, I'm left wondering if they simply don't want to accept the fact that CDs suck these days |
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| 06:23.23 | Aqua | mp3 or flac ftw |
| 06:23.30 | zenzio | indeed |
| 06:24.07 | Fisker | I'm left wondering why don't simply check their numbers before complaining |
| 06:24.09 | zenzio | if they'd put half of what they spend on campaigning against piracy into developing a quality download service, they wouldn't be in this mess in the first place |
| 06:24.14 | zenzio | Fisker: also a good point |
| 06:24.36 | Aqua | because its easier to bitch, than to check, and then bitch |
| 06:24.38 | Iriel | The other problem is one of exposure |
| 06:24.56 | Iriel | It's hard to find good new music |
| 06:25.07 | Iriel | so either there isn't any, or they took away the best means of discovery |
| 06:25.10 | Aqua | and the fact that they are trying to copy protect cd's, which makes ripping them for ipods and stuff hard.. |
| 06:25.30 | Fisker | you don't get it Aqua |
| 06:25.31 | Arrowmaster | its impossible to copy protect a cd |
| 06:25.38 | Fisker | You should PAY FOR EVERY DAMN TIME YOU LISTEN TO MUSIC RAWR |
| 06:25.57 | Aqua | bah, i'd say to hell with music |
| 06:26.00 | Aqua | if they did that |
| 06:26.26 | Arrowmaster | they want you to buy a new copy for every device you want to listen to it on |
| 06:26.36 | Fisker | yeah |
| 06:26.42 | Fisker | just exaggerated it a bit |
| 06:26.45 | Aqua | which is bull shit |
| 06:27.04 | Aqua | lets just gouge everyonoe |
| 06:27.13 | Fisker | There should be something like iTunes |
| 06:27.15 | Fisker | except not itunes |
| 06:27.23 | Fisker | And everyone should be on it |
| 06:27.24 | zenzio | hehe |
| 06:27.36 | Aqua | i like itunes and i hate itunes |
| 06:27.40 | Arrowmaster | and not overpriced |
| 06:27.47 | Fisker | yep |
| 06:27.56 | zenzio | I wish people would take inspiration from CDBaby and similar site |
| 06:27.57 | zenzio | +s |
| 06:28.00 | Fisker | And of course absolutely no form for DRM |
| 06:28.13 | Aqua | drm is a fact of digital life i'm afraied |
| 06:28.15 | zenzio | think I've spent more money on music there than I have anywhere else, CDs or otherwise |
| 06:28.17 | Fisker | Maybe cross it a bit with a youtube like site |
| 06:28.33 | Fisker | Where you can watch the music video and listen to the music |
| 06:28.34 | Fisker | et.c |
| 06:28.45 | Fisker | And they can cram their silly ads in it if they so desperately need money |
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| 06:35.28 | bleeter | zenzio: "every time I hear the recording industry complain about CD sales" I think of AC/DC and their refusal to rip apart their artwork that is an album and sell singles on itunes. doesn't seem to have hurt their sales ;) |
| 06:36.10 | bleeter | I also think of my mate who's got some rights over some not-so-unknown tunes and how she said I can copy any of it 'coz the record companies, and more importantly the $$ collection agencies, treat her like shit |
| 06:36.16 | Fisker | bai |
| 06:36.21 | bleeter | cya |
| 06:36.37 | bleeter | pokes this thing a few more times then gives up for the day |
| 06:43.31 | Nechckn | Quit your poking sheepy, or I'll come after you with the shears! |
| 06:44.30 | Bruners | was Starship Troopers good? |
| 06:45.43 | Warcraft3 | 1 was good |
| 06:46.06 | Warcraft3 | looks like starcraft |
| 06:48.42 | Thunder_Child | the movie? |
| 06:49.20 | Bruners | the movie yes |
| 06:49.50 | Thunder_Child | it's more of a cult clasic. most people think meh, but there are some who like it |
| 06:49.55 | Thunder_Child | i do |
| 06:50.31 | Bruners | i remember it as good, but not sure if i want to ruin that with watching it again |
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| 07:02.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont really remember the 2nd but the 3rd was perty bad |
| 07:02.54 | bleeter | surely more like 'starcraft looks like parts of starship troopers' |
| 07:03.06 | bleeter | minus the bits where johnny rico's dad ends up enlisting |
| 07:03.28 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember that |
| 07:03.38 | bleeter | the 1950's book :P |
| 07:03.46 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 07:04.20 | Arrowmaster | i really need to read more |
| 07:04.32 | Arrowmaster | i think the last novel i read was rainbow six |
| 07:04.34 | zenzio | Starship Troopers was based on an actual book? I never knew |
| 07:04.35 | bleeter | yeah when they came to make the movie the soviet union had collapsed, so that whole subplot didn't really work |
| 07:04.46 | bleeter | zenzio: robert heinlein |
| 07:05.10 | bleeter | so they just turned it into your standard bughunt |
| 07:05.14 | Arrowmaster | theres a lot of scifi books ive been wanting to read |
| 07:05.22 | bleeter | hey |
| 07:05.31 | bleeter | if california move all the kids to electronic books |
| 07:05.39 | bleeter | what happens next time they run out of electrickery? |
| 07:06.05 | zenzio | I started re-reading the Night's Dawn trilogy recently; and I'm enjoying how much more I seem to understand this time around |
| 07:06.14 | Arrowmaster | they ask for a government bailout for batteries |
| 07:07.09 | bleeter | zenzio: ST was a fairly controversial book for it's time |
| 07:07.33 | zenzio | bleeter: if it involved the Soviet Union like you seemed to say, I would imagine so :) |
| 07:07.51 | bleeter | well, moreso than just that |
| 07:08.05 | bleeter | your run of the mill communism, facism, racism, etc. all get a good look in |
| 07:08.23 | zenzio | hm, that actually sounds a bit interesting |
| 07:09.13 | bleeter | given it's kinda a precursor to the movies like aliens, and starcraft etc., I'd recommend it |
| 07:09.27 | bleeter | just helps to remember it was written in 1950's.. some stuff form then ages well, others, not so well |
| 07:09.41 | bleeter | as a book about human nature etc. i don't think it's aged that much at all |
| 07:10.02 | zenzio | some books from that time far outshine modern books |
| 07:10.08 | bleeter | as far as heinlein goes prolly one of his less twisted books, too |
| 07:10.14 | zenzio | (here's looking at you Silmarillion/LotR) |
| 07:10.45 | bleeter | zenzio: clockwork orange was 1962 |
| 07:11.01 | bleeter | on the subject of twisted and out there ;) |
| 07:11.44 | zenzio | hehe. I never did watch more than ~30 minutes of that movie I think... was too bleak/gloomy for me at the time. Must be ten years ago or something now, I should try it again sometime |
| 07:11.49 | bleeter | 1984 was writting 1949, too... almost the 50's |
| 07:11.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah im bad, i dont think ive read any book you guys have mentioned |
| 07:11.56 | bleeter | written in |
| 07:12.07 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: meh, there's only about 6 plots all up |
| 07:12.17 | bleeter | and most of the, if not all, are in Don Quixote |
| 07:12.31 | Arrowmaster | i swear i think the last 3 books ive read have all been tom clancy books |
| 07:13.07 | zenzio | I see Heinlein has written a lot of stuff; are his books generally long? |
| 07:13.57 | zenzio | I used to read Tom Clancy books, but for some reason they stopped interesting me. Might've just been an unlucky selection, can't recall why I stopped |
| 07:15.00 | Thunder_Child | have spacesuit will travel & space cadets are 2 of the best books i have read |
| 07:15.22 | bleeter | man vs man, man vs machine, man vs environment, man vs god ... |
| 07:15.53 | bleeter | man vs self, man vs suprtnatural ... damnit the 7th? |
| 07:16.01 | zenzio | Thunder_Child: both Heinlein? |
| 07:16.12 | bleeter | oh yeah man vs nature 'coz nature and environment are different like god and supernatural |
| 07:17.39 | zenzio | hopefully Hamilton will finish the last book in the Void trilogy soon |
| 07:18.32 | Sargeras | zomg no Cairenn to hug! |
| 07:18.35 | Sargeras | i r sad :( |
| 07:22.08 | tekkub | I AM A DREMEL WIZARD |
| 07:22.21 | tekkub | no nerd should be without a dremel |
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| 07:22.56 | Bruners | dremel... lol |
| 07:23.18 | tekkub | I just "adjusted" Trey's iPhone 2G dock to work with mah new iPod |
| 07:23.18 | Thunder_Child | zenzio, yes |
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| 07:57.00 | Fisker | i just threw your bitch ass ipod out |
| 07:58.29 | Fisker | http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10354845&postcount=1 <-win |
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| 07:59.15 | laeg | "float |
| 07:59.17 | laeg | Increases your chance to resist movement impairing effects by X% and increases your movement speed by Y%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects." |
| 07:59.21 | laeg | fleet-footed |
| 07:59.37 | laeg | does that mean it won't work with things like highlander leather boots that have a minor speed increase? |
| 07:59.42 | Fisker | man |
| 07:59.47 | laeg | or just effects like spells? |
| 08:00.00 | Hjalte | laeg: Movement speed effects don't stack. |
| 08:00.01 | Fisker | It means going for a run or hitting the gym, and raising our children to step away from the video games and spend more time playing outside. |
| 08:00.16 | Fisker | Being in good physical condition = Good for gaming = invalid point |
| 08:00.28 | laeg | Hjalte: so boar's speed etc is worthless to me? |
| 08:00.48 | Hjalte | laeg: If you are already using another speed increase, like the boots, yes. |
| 08:03.52 | laeg | no, i'll always have fleetfooted which is the talent i linked |
| 08:04.20 | Hjalte | Ah, but yes, it's the same. |
| 08:07.06 | laeg | k ty |
| 08:07.21 | laeg | i originally thought it might stack like mount speed increases |
| 08:07.33 | laeg | carrot on a stick, mithril spurs and riding skill on gloves |
| 08:10.23 | Hjalte | Anyone else noticed this add on wowinterface? (top right corner) Not sure how many countries have Findus: http://www.hjalte.com/wowinterfaceadd.jpg |
| 08:10.27 | Adys | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18962 |
| 08:10.51 | Hjalte | Anyway, it's a nice add :) |
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| 08:21.20 | zenzio | Hjalte: lol |
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| 08:30.18 | Wobin | hm, is wowhead particularly slow? |
| 08:30.52 | Wobin | Hjalte: I think the ads on Wowi are country targeted =) |
| 08:31.08 | zenzio | most likely they are |
| 08:31.31 | zenzio | also, Wowhead does seem to be slow at the moment |
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| 09:05.27 | laeg | will having the trinket and cold blood pop entered after my mutilate/backstab mean those attacks won't see the benefit of them? |
| 09:05.38 | laeg | only they seem to all happen at once and this way #showtooltip works correctly |
| 09:05.42 | laeg | http://pastebin.com/m73e70d22 |
| 09:05.47 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/images/uploaded/7232wall.jpg |
| 09:14.44 | sioraiocht | Shadowed: I <3 your unit frames |
| 09:15.00 | Shadowed | :> |
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| 09:37.11 | Tewan | How would I go about cancelling follow in LUA? |
| 09:37.15 | Tewan | rather, lua |
| 09:37.20 | krka | Tewan: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" ^_^ |
| 09:37.34 | Tewan | fails |
| 09:37.47 | tekkub | oh god |
| 09:37.55 | tekkub | wowinsider did a story about furries |
| 09:37.57 | Arrowmaster | DoEmote("sit") |
| 09:38.21 | Tewan | Arrowmaster: Thank ya, didn't think of that :P |
| 09:38.27 | mikma | tekkub: were you covered in it? |
| 09:38.40 | tekkub | I don't think so, wowins fails again |
| 09:41.41 | Mikk | THIS JUST IN: Tekkub not covered in furries. |
| 09:41.45 | Tewan | Arrowmaster: Actually, that didn't work |
| 09:41.54 | Arrowmaster | then its not possible |
| 09:41.58 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 09:41.59 | Tewan | I see |
| 09:42.00 | zenzio | Tewan: try FollowUnit(nil)? |
| 09:42.04 | tekkub | it's insulting, we should boycott wowins for making such a horrible oversight |
| 09:42.06 | zenzio | no idea if it'll work |
| 09:42.15 | Arrowmaster | FollowUnit("player")? |
| 09:42.25 | Tewan | That was there originally |
| 09:42.26 | Mikk | Tewan: Are you doing this in response to a hardware event or is it timed? |
| 09:42.28 | Tewan | And it wouldn't work |
| 09:42.34 | Mikk | (Or result of some other game event) |
| 09:43.06 | Tewan | Mikk: *Lua-noob*, I'm just editing UsefulExtras to try to get it to work |
| 09:43.15 | Tewan | If the player receives a whisper saying "x", then it does "y" |
| 09:43.34 | Mikk | Ah. Then I'm unsure if you can do anything that'll stop you following that toon. |
| 09:43.50 | Mikk | The WoW API requires hardware events (keypunch, mouse click) for a lot of stuff |
| 09:44.01 | Arrowmaster | if DoEmote("sit") doesnt work then its not possible |
| 09:44.24 | Mikk | So e.g. if you "/run DoEmote("sit")" in the chat edit box, that will probably work. But that's because it's the result of a keypunch (enter) |
| 09:45.21 | Mikk | So .. for finding something that'll allow you to abort a follow without a hardware event... you're pretty much on your own testing stuff |
| 09:45.33 | Mikk | (Unless you luck out and someone here has researched that already) |
| 09:45.57 | Arrowmaster | ok seriously i want to find whoever had the idea to make "enviromentally friendly" dvd cases that use less plastic and shoot them |
| 09:46.05 | Tewan | Actually, I'm going to try your /run suggestion |
| 09:46.21 | Arrowmaster | this new one i have is missing plastic on both the front and back of the dvd area |
| 09:46.21 | Tewan | Nope, still follows |
| 09:46.22 | Tewan | Hmm. |
| 09:47.09 | Arrowmaster | dvd cases are ment to protect the dvd, it defeats the purpose to have giant fucking holes in the case on both fucking sides of the dvd |
| 09:48.17 | Tewan | Hmmmmmmm. |
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| 09:50.06 | Tewan | CancelLogout() doesn't seem to work |
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| 10:05.24 | sixen-debug | rawr |
| 10:05.48 | Sixen | rawr |
| 10:05.54 | sixen-debug | /quit test |
| 10:05.56 | sixen-debug | ew |
| 10:09.02 | Aelobin | O_o |
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| 11:37.57 | mikma | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/heath-ledger-what-better-legacy.jpg?w=450&h=300 |
| 11:38.44 | mikma | hö |
| 11:38.52 | mikma | tänään piti vielä pelaa |
| 11:38.56 | mikma | whops |
| 11:39.02 | mikma | wrong window =) |
| 11:39.02 | Fisker | stop being so finnish |
| 11:39.10 | zenzio | ei sa peittää |
| 11:39.18 | Fisker | i will hate you |
| 11:41.43 | smoke__ | anyone here familiar with ouf plugin api? |
| 11:43.00 | jnwhiteh | haste is |
| 11:43.06 | Fisker | heh |
| 11:43.10 | smoke__ | hes not available right no :( |
| 11:43.16 | Fisker | "Remove your account name it's 50% of what the hacker needs to rehack you" |
| 11:43.23 | Fisker | Hacker already knows your account name durr |
| 11:44.56 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/captionit/Keep%20Out |
| 11:45.25 | Adys | Is there an apache conf/module to attempt a fetch on foo%20bar if i request foo_bar and it's 404? |
| 11:47.06 | mikma | y so finnish |
| 11:51.24 | Aelobin_ | Fisker: surely if they were haxxin by keylogger then saving your account name is better than typing it in with your password? |
| 11:52.09 | Aelobin_ | anywho brb |
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| 11:54.49 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/15785/white.jpg |
| 11:55.08 | jnwhiteh | 10 seconds> |
| 11:55.08 | jnwhiteh | psh |
| 11:55.20 | mikma | well, not it did |
| 11:55.22 | jnwhiteh | so who are we gonna pvp with mikma |
| 11:55.23 | mikma | now* |
| 11:55.33 | mikma | jnwhiteh: liek what |
| 11:55.37 | jnwhiteh | what'll be the third class |
| 11:55.49 | mikma | i'm guessing, shaman? xD |
| 11:56.18 | jnwhiteh | well yeah |
| 11:56.21 | jnwhiteh | but that's a few more levels |
| 11:56.25 | jnwhiteh | i want to start working on the team |
| 11:56.52 | mikma | all the cool dudes are taken |
| 11:57.24 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 11:58.08 | laeg | will having the trinket and cold blood pop entered after my mutilate/backstab mean those attacks won't see the benefit of them? |
| 11:58.14 | laeg | only they seem to all happen at once and this way #showtooltip works correctly |
| 11:58.16 | laeg | http://pastebin.com/m73e70d22 |
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| 12:02.47 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 12:02.52 | jnwhiteh | when running wow in windowed mode |
| 12:03.02 | jnwhiteh | does it _help_ or _hurt_ to change the resolution |
| 12:05.49 | mikma | yes. it does. |
| 12:06.00 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/8912/8a466759724a7f5d3ac36fb494cc917e.jpg |
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| 12:11.13 | mikma | fisker: http://media.fukung.net/images/2481/10400swswings6pi6eq2kp.jpg |
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| 12:38.47 | Cruciformer | grrr why does GetGuildRosterInfo() return a rank index that is 0-based but all the GuildControl...() functions use an index thats 1-based. Drives me nuts. |
| 12:38.59 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/7775/5dc8244680af3cf555576db3e602dca4.jpg |
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| 12:42.13 | Cruciformer | and why there are two permissions called "Create guild event", the first of which is always nil and the second of whih actually indicates if you can create guild events or not. |
| 12:42.14 | Cruciformer | go blizzy go :) |
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| 12:43.25 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/355/pigeons.gif |
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| 12:45.22 | dardack | ok i know i asked this but my computer crashed and lost the logs/code i had recently worked on. In the bindings.xml file under <binding></binding> can i check players class? |
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| 13:01.30 | Wobin | hehe, under a killing moon is being sold on GoG.com |
| 13:01.33 | Wobin | I remember when that came out |
| 13:01.40 | Wobin | it was like "OMG Actual CDs!" |
| 13:03.24 | Lopeppeppy | Not floppies! |
| 13:03.42 | Aelobin | how long's wowhead been down for? :/ |
| 13:03.46 | zenzio | I don't see what the problem is with floppies |
| 13:03.57 | zenzio | inserts Windows 95 diskette 13 |
| 13:04.00 | Cruciformer | I remember "Phantasmagoria" with fondness ... "OMG 8 CD's it must be awesome" (and it was) |
| 13:04.12 | airtonix | myst |
| 13:04.21 | airtonix | then the failness of uru |
| 13:04.30 | Cruciformer | myst never did it for me tbh |
| 13:04.31 | airtonix | T_T |
| 13:04.50 | airtonix | its the kind of game you need a wallscreen for |
| 13:04.50 | Fisker | hello Wobin |
| 13:04.56 | Fisker | this is my hateface |
| 13:04.58 | Cruciformer | leisure suit larry on the other hand ... was fun as hell |
| 13:05.13 | Wobin | Fisker: It looks like your arse. |
| 13:05.14 | Lopeppeppy | Aelobin, Wowhead works for me. |
| 13:05.20 | Aelobin | 0.o |
| 13:05.21 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: It's really really slow for me |
| 13:05.27 | Wobin | (when it works at all) |
| 13:05.29 | Aelobin | times out for me and my friend |
| 13:05.34 | Lopeppeppy | I played Leisure Suit Larry at work in college... |
| 13:05.44 | Wobin | hehe Phantasmogia |
| 13:05.49 | Wobin | "OMG FMV!" |
| 13:05.54 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: hopefully u didnt get to the scene where u have to buy condoms lol |
| 13:05.54 | Aelobin | and 2 forums who use the item tooltips thing from wowhead wont load because of it >_> |
| 13:05.58 | zenzio | wowhead doesn't work for me either; but I'm guessing it's a routing issue |
| 13:06.19 | Aelobin | zenzio: a wut? :P |
| 13:06.30 | Wobin | a routing issue |
| 13:06.48 | zenzio | actually, traceroute works fine... guess it's something else weird |
| 13:06.49 | mikma | haha |
| 13:06.55 | mikma | xmas calendar: http://media.fukung.net/images/853/christmas-calendar.jpg |
| 13:07.06 | zenzio | lol |
| 13:07.14 | Wobin | heh, I think you mean 'Advent Calender" =) |
| 13:07.14 | Cruciformer | not to be confused with Australia's "rooting issue" in which they will root everything that moves :) |
| 13:07.41 | mikma | wobin: no, i said xmas! |
| 13:08.02 | Wobin | yeah, I know you did =P |
| 13:08.30 | mikma | http://media.fukung.net/images/14597/094c812f0bfd3f75a25d0e479a08412a.jpg |
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| 13:09.12 | Wobin | classy =) |
| 13:10.31 | Wobin | http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/rthomas80us/gothapotamus.jpg |
| 13:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | is ascairt |
| 13:14.03 | mikma | wobin: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15dla37&s=5 |
| 13:14.27 | Wobin | omnomnomnom |
| 13:15.21 | Cruciformer | the other day a bunch of you were talking about digital SLR cameras ... any of you still present or anyone have any experience with Canon DSLR's? |
| 13:15.41 | jnwhiteh | i'm still here, yeah |
| 13:15.46 | jnwhiteh | shirik has the really expensive one |
| 13:15.47 | jnwhiteh | but i have the 450d |
| 13:16.07 | Cruciformer | I have the 1Ds mk 3 and I am having serious issues with it |
| 13:16.16 | jnwhiteh | that's no good, what issues? |
| 13:16.47 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a Nikon chick here at work, can't help ya. |
| 13:16.53 | Cruciformer | two actually. If I take a pi with the lense cap on (or even with no lense at alla nd just the body cap) to get an all black picture, even at relatively low ISO settings I am getting a LOIT of noise |
| 13:16.55 | mikma | coolpix |
| 13:17.15 | jnwhiteh | that's bizarre |
| 13:17.18 | Cruciformer | I would epxect a few pixels here and there to be off but this is like a starfield, even at ISO 200 |
| 13:17.41 | Cruciformer | and at ISO 1600 ... its like the milky way |
| 13:18.14 | Cruciformer | and the other issue I have is it seems to frequently front or back focus ... this is on a tripod, with propper lighting, remote release, and a focus chart. |
| 13:18.29 | Aelobin | http://fukung.net/v/14805/fa608904eac18f5f5847ae00e843a1f5.png |
| 13:18.33 | Cruciformer | Same elsne on a ID mark3 (not teh 1ds) or a 40D ... no issue, so its not the lens. |
| 13:18.47 | Cruciformer | s/elsne/lens/g |
| 13:19.15 | mikma | wobin: http://fukung.net/v/13538/ba26adba830cdec5030c65a27c1c690b.gif |
| 13:19.31 | Cruciformer | for 8K I would expect any lens I get to just work out the box, no microfocus adjustments necessary. |
| 13:19.59 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 13:19.59 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 13:20.21 | Cruciformer | and the local canon agents are about as useful as a soft c*ck on honeymoon |
| 13:21.30 | mikma | wobin: this is funny too, http://fukung.net/v/7092/backstreet.gif |
| 13:21.33 | Aelobin | http://fukung.net/v/13056/35a5749642f4af954b08bc4eb2b3dd02.jpg :P |
| 13:21.36 | Cruciformer | and not the problem I face is, I bought the camera when I was living in the usa, and the local agents are trying to tell me I need to send it back to canon usa. |
| 13:21.48 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 13:21.48 | Cruciformer | s/and not/and now/ |
| 13:22.15 | Cruciformer | i am starting to get quite disillusioned with canon |
| 13:22.16 | dardack | is there a check if your inside? (in a building/instance etc.) |
| 13:22.51 | jnwhiteh | !api InInstance |
| 13:22.59 | lua_bot | IsInInstance: Returns whether the player is in an instance (and its type if applicable) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsInInstance) |
| 13:24.15 | mikma | !api indoor |
| 13:24.21 | dardack | so no check for inside a building? |
| 13:24.22 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'indoor': ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS, IsIndoors |
| 13:24.30 | dardack | !api isindoors |
| 13:24.38 | lua_bot | IsIndoors: Returns whether or not the player is currently indoors (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsIndoors) |
| 13:24.44 | dardack | thank yoiu |
| 13:24.49 | mikma | apparently there is |
| 13:25.31 | dardack | now when I call GetSpellInfo("") do i put Travel Form (Shapeshift)() or Travel Form (Shapeshift) or Travel Form? |
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| 13:26.18 | Cruciformer | I personally would do none of the above. I would look on wowhead what thes pell number for travel form is and use that. |
| 13:26.55 | mikma | dardack: i'd go with "Travel Forl (Shapeshift)()" |
| 13:26.55 | Cruciformer | (which is 783) |
| 13:27.14 | Cruciformer | so id use GetSpellInfo (783) |
| 13:27.15 | dardack | yes but if i use spellID it always returns info |
| 13:27.19 | dardack | i want to check if they have it |
| 13:27.25 | dardack | which with spell name it returns nil |
| 13:27.31 | dardack | thanks mikma |
| 13:28.14 | mikma | my, i need a antimigraine pill now |
| 13:28.17 | mikma | thanks fisker |
| 13:29.33 | Cruciformer | !api IsUsableSpell |
| 13:29.37 | lua_bot | IsUsableSpell: Returns whether or not a given spell is usable or cannot be used due to lack of mana (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsUsableSpell) |
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| 13:37.12 | mikma | http://fukung.net/v/16548/c12a34ccba345824f2577c47316b0014..jpg |
| 13:37.47 | Wobin | mikma: hehehe, fantastic |
| 13:37.59 | mikma | took a while to load the picture |
| 13:38.04 | mikma | and then i was like "lolz" |
| 13:38.42 | Cruciformer | dardack: U still there? |
| 13:39.28 | dardack | yea |
| 13:40.24 | Cruciformer | it is a bad idea to use "Travelform" or whatever as the name. Better to use name = GetSpellInfo (783) and then use that returned name, else your mod wont work for any client other than english |
| 13:40.54 | Cruciformer | if you get the name as returned by the id, you can then use that name in a second call to GetSpellInfo() to see if the user has it in their spell book |
| 13:42.04 | Cruciformer | although I still dont see why you dont just use the spell ID in the first place. But using the returned name makes your mod friendlier to other languages. |
| 13:42.05 | dardack | yea, unfortunately it won't work for any other client but english right now, never localized, guess i should work on that |
| 13:42.36 | Cruciformer | these are the little things you can to to ameliorate that |
| 13:42.45 | dardack | true |
| 13:43.29 | Cruciformer | heh ... I dont get to use ameliorate (sp?) in a sentence every day :) |
| 13:43.29 | batbot | Cruciformer, ameliorate is correct. |
| 13:43.31 | dardack | is there another place to get spellID's? wowhead seems to be down for me |
| 13:43.49 | Cruciformer | thottbot, alakhazan etc |
| 13:46.44 | dardack | http://thottbot.com/s33950 don't see it on thottbot |
| 13:47.13 | Cruciformer | which spell are you looking for? |
| 13:47.56 | dardack | a few, the 2 pally mounts, 2 lock mounts, shaman ghost wolf, druid travel/flight/swiftflight/cat |
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| 13:48.09 | dardack | my mount mod wasn't accounting for castable mounts |
| 13:49.00 | Cruciformer | what spell is 33950? |
| 13:50.00 | Cide | the one right after 33949, I believe |
| 13:50.21 | dardack | wait that's how thottbot does it? that's for flight form |
| 13:50.25 | dardack | that link |
| 13:50.34 | Cruciformer | what makes you think I was using base 10? |
| 13:51.02 | mikma | wobin: http://fukung.net/v/1550/400026426_l.jpg <- now that's gangsta |
| 13:51.26 | dardack | yea they might do it that way cruciformer too bad wow is down so i can't really test any of this |
| 13:51.31 | Cruciformer | when I search thottbot for travel for it yields http://thottbot.com/s783 |
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| 13:51.51 | Cruciformer | which is the same spell id (783) that wowhead returned |
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| 13:52.47 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 13:52.50 | Cruciformer | so not sure where u got 33950 from |
| 13:52.54 | Cruciformer | greetings kneeki |
| 13:53.25 | dardack | ok looks like there are diff links so now i found swift flight form http://thottbot.com/s40120 |
| 13:55.01 | Cide | Cruciformer: what makes you think *I* was using base 10? |
| 13:55.42 | Aelobin | cowers in fear at the site of Cide. |
| 13:55.52 | Cruciformer | afaict 33950 would only follow 33949 in base 10 |
| 13:56.12 | Cide | yeah, as far as I can tell as well :P |
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| 13:56.21 | Aelobin | *sight 0.o |
| 13:56.42 | Cruciformer | but then number theory was never my strong suit :) |
| 13:57.08 | Cide | any base <10 is obviously void for obvious reasons |
| 13:57.19 | Cide | any base >10, the 0 would become (base-1) |
| 13:57.31 | Cide | any base >=10 I should say |
| 13:57.39 | Cruciformer | only id we assume that 0 is the starting point and not 1 :) |
| 13:57.52 | Cide | 0 is considered the starting point in all bases, I believe |
| 13:57.55 | dardack | ok i'm starting to localize, is CallCompanion("MOUNT"..) is the "MOUNT" standard or do I have to localize that? |
| 13:58.08 | Cide | the proof for non-integer bases is left as an exercise for the reader |
| 13:58.11 | Cruciformer | digits are just symbols anyway so in your hypothetical number system the characyter '1' could have the conceptual meaning "zero" and therefore the base is indeterminate |
| 13:58.23 | dardack | also does this:RegisterEvent("COMPANION_LEARNED") COMPANION_LEARNED need to be localized? |
| 13:58.41 | Cruciformer | No event names do not need to be localised |
| 13:58.48 | Cide | aye, but under the assumption that for any integer base <= 10; 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 is the ordering of the digits |
| 13:59.23 | Cide | for > 10, the ordering is the same, but the following digits are different but irrelevant for the proof |
| 13:59.28 | Cruciformer | yup working with that assumption, one can assume you were talking base 10 :) |
| 14:00.06 | Cruciformer | (I love these little mental exercises and pedantry btw - its the stuff of life) |
| 14:01.06 | Cide | maybe I can find some non-trivial base k where 33949_k + 1 = 33950_k but where 33949_k != 33949_10. |
| 14:01.06 | tlund | i have never used an actionbar addon, but i am thinking about starting now. What should i look at other than Bartender4? |
| 14:01.26 | Cruciformer | why look further than bt4? It is full of awesomeness. |
| 14:01.39 | Cide | ct_barmod - full of shit |
| 14:01.49 | Cruciformer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:01.54 | Cide | hey, shut up. |
| 14:01.55 | dardack | ok events don't need to be localized but does "MOUNT" for the call companion need to be? |
| 14:02.27 | Cruciformer | in gedneral function arguments do not need to be localised |
| 14:02.51 | Cruciformer | if a function is documented to take the word "MOUNT" as an argument, thats the word to use. |
| 14:03.20 | dardack | ok |
| 14:03.21 | Cruciformer | Just like when you use CreateFrame ("FRAME", ...) the word "FRAME" does not need to be localised. |
| 14:03.33 | Cide | pretty sure you can scratch "in general" |
| 14:03.37 | dardack | also can in a string have new line character, ie /n? |
| 14:03.47 | Cide | it can certainly contain /n. |
| 14:03.55 | Cide | the question remains if it can contain \n. |
| 14:03.59 | Cide | to which the answer is yes. |
| 14:04.04 | Cruciformer | yes it can but its not a delimiter the way you likely want it to be |
| 14:05.00 | Cruciformer | when outputting to a label or somesuch it may work but \n doesnt have a particularly special meaning AFAIK |
| 14:05.01 | dardack | so print(VARNAME) VARNAME = "test\ntest2" won't print two lines? |
| 14:05.08 | Cide | yes it will |
| 14:05.18 | Cruciformer | lua> print ("line 1\nline 2"); |
| 14:05.18 | lua_bot | Cruciformer: line 1line 2 |
| 14:05.29 | Cruciformer | well thats not necessarily proof |
| 14:05.37 | Cide | iirc anyway, ChatFrames respect \n |
| 14:06.02 | Cide | if it doesn't, just split the string and call :AddMessage() several times |
| 14:06.08 | Cruciformer | yeah they do ... try "/script print ("line1\nline2") and it works |
| 14:06.38 | dardack | yea wow is down for me for maintenance |
| 14:06.48 | Cruciformer | ptr? |
| 14:07.02 | Cruciformer | dunno if its up or not |
| 14:08.13 | dardack | eh i'l write it in and if it don't work at 11 i'll just fix it then |
| 14:08.15 | Cruciformer | btw /g test1\ntest2 failed |
| 14:08.16 | Cide | interesting thought |
| 14:08.26 | Cruciformer | so it didnt work for gchar, just for print |
| 14:08.37 | Cide | programs aren't allowed to send stuff into wow, but macro programs are allowed |
| 14:08.39 | Cruciformer | g/char/gchat/g |
| 14:08.40 | dardack | at least it will be close and started localization |
| 14:09.21 | Cide | is it allowed to, say, host a bot which accepts lua input, executes it (with the windows bindings for keyboard input), printscreens, and uploads the result? |
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| 14:09.40 | Cide | I'm thinking no since the gathering of input is more of an automated process and it could easily be turned into something akin to a bot |
| 14:09.59 | Cide | which is unfortunate and we shan't discuss, for it would be an awesome idea for showing people how the api works |
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| 14:11.07 | Cruciformer | notices how fear of Blizzrd's EULA/TOS trumps the notion of "free speech" |
| 14:11.23 | Lopeppeppy | Get over it, Cruciformer, go make your own channel. |
| 14:11.52 | Cruciformer | Lopeppeppy: Ge tthe stick out your butt. It was an idle comment not a request for change. |
| 14:11.56 | Cide | I don't fear the eula/tos |
| 14:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | *rolls eyes* You don't like channel rules, go make your own. |
| 14:12.12 | Cide | I just respect the channel rules 8) |
| 14:12.17 | Cruciformer | did I say I didnt like them? |
| 14:12.18 | Cide | heck I don't even play |
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| 14:24.20 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie, Pandora thinks my Celtic station needs more love songs.... how very odd. |
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| 14:30.55 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: I hadn't used Pandora in a couple of months until last night...suddenly it's tagging things as thumbs up that I'd never heard. |
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| 14:31.48 | Cide | clearly the sponsors get auto-TU |
| 14:32.16 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, maybe that's what I'm getting. I reloaded and it's back to celtic rock now, no more Danny Boy rip offs |
| 14:32.23 | Torhal | Heh. "Pandora - brought to you by Dream Evil." |
| 14:32.43 | Torhal | I'm all "WTF is Dream Evil? And why are they thumbs up?" |
| 14:38.46 | Shirik | Cruciformer: That's unusual |
| 14:39.00 | Shirik | it may be defective, really |
| 14:39.12 | Shirik | unless you're at like ISO 2000 or something |
| 14:39.31 | Shirik | even at ISO 1600 I'm not seeing any noticable noise on my 5D Mk II |
| 14:39.54 | Shirik | and I also haven't heard of any noise problems with the 1DS Mk 3 |
| 14:40.43 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy :) |
| 14:40.52 | Shirik | pandora is good for you |
| 14:41.01 | Shirik | how did you tune it to celtic music? |
| 14:41.31 | Shirik | Cruciformer: I have to go to work; you can ping me from there if you need to |
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| 14:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you start with a celtic seed, add more celtic music by hand, and thumbs-down anything not celtic rock. Same as other channels, except different theme. :) |
| 14:45.24 | Cruciformer | Shirik: Sorry I was afk. Let me know when u r back |
| 14:45.54 | Cide | interesting combination |
| 14:46.15 | Cide | properly capitalized with punctuation, but "u r". don't see that very often! |
| 14:46.25 | Cide | I hate myself |
| 14:46.48 | Cruciformer | It was incorrectly punctuated as it was missing a period at the end :) |
| 14:46.55 | Cide | this is true |
| 14:47.19 | Cruciformer | and missing a comma after "sorry" |
| 14:47.22 | Fisker | i fu'd Shirik |
| 14:47.46 | Cruciformer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cbCOQAWGWg makes me lol every time. The caption at the end is "Need glasses? Visit your optician". |
| 14:49.34 | dardack | so the horde pally mount and ally pally mounts are diff spells? sigh |
| 14:51.23 | dardack | is UnitRace for BE's return "Blood Elf" or is it BloodElf? |
| 14:51.50 | airtonix | better yet, does it just return one value? |
| 14:51.56 | Cide | or fifteen? |
| 14:52.17 | airtonix | like UnitClass = wenkelschielfier, "ANGLE GRINDER' |
| 14:52.19 | dardack | it returns 2 values |
| 14:52.25 | Cide | Cruciformer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXsd5aw8oas |
| 14:52.34 | dardack | one is localized one is english |
| 14:52.58 | dardack | i'm localizing so for my MRMBE varaible wanted to know whether to put "BloodElf" or Blood Elf |
| 14:53.57 | dardack | and i don't get that, the horde ally druid's look difference but seems to be 1 spell |
| 14:53.58 | airtonix | how does unitcalss treat dethknight? |
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| 14:54.15 | dardack | don't know wow not up for 3 more hours |
| 14:55.31 | Lopeppeppy | Patch today, or just full maintenance? |
| 14:55.31 | dardack | full maintenance |
| 14:55.31 | dardack | well |
| 14:55.31 | dardack | actually i didn't try to log in |
| 14:55.31 | dardack | oh wait |
| 14:55.31 | dardack | they put it in the launcher now |
| 14:55.31 | dardack | yea no patch |
| 14:55.31 | Lopeppeppy | My launcher still won't launch. *growls at it* |
| 14:55.31 | Cruciformer | cide: lol |
| 14:55.34 | dardack | i wish they had announced mount changes a few days earlier like 1 |
| 14:55.55 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUSCKk6Ju70 > yours Cruciformer |
| 14:56.03 | Cruciformer | Cide: you may enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0uFqsI1vy4 |
| 14:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | The mount changes were out at leaset a week ago, dardack. BlueTracker is your friend. :) |
| 14:56.19 | Cide | I've seen that one |
| 14:56.22 | Cide | it's pretty awesome |
| 14:56.25 | dardack | oh i know |
| 14:56.28 | dardack | i meant a day before they did |
| 14:56.33 | dardack | the day before the annoucnements |
| 14:56.40 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 14:56.42 | dardack | i went and bought all the mounts for my dk (second toon with over 80 mounts) |
| 14:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, better for you *personally*. *nod* |
| 14:56.53 | dardack | so i coulda saved some gold |
| 14:56.56 | dardack | yea yea |
| 14:57.07 | Cruciformer | Fisker: lol thata funny :) |
| 14:57.09 | dardack | i would love a refund with 4 toons with epic flying, 2 toons with over 80 mounts |
| 14:57.11 | dardack | but w/e |
| 14:57.31 | dardack | wish they hadn't reduced the cost of epic at all |
| 14:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | You know it's not happening, dardack. /comfort |
| 14:57.35 | zenzelezz | so the bus ride home was unintentionally entertaining. Sat next to a girl who had trouble staying awake |
| 14:57.36 | dardack | oh i know |
| 14:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Now you have cool mounts to farm with though! |
| 14:57.59 | dardack | well i kinda have fallen in lvoe with my dk, i haven't played my other alts in forever (except to log on my shaman to DE) |
| 14:58.17 | dardack | i have my shaman at 80, my hunter stuck at 77 and my lock at 70 that all have epic |
| 14:58.29 | dardack | been trying to hit that 25k mind on money |
| 14:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | I suck at farming... I have 0 toons with epic mounts. |
| 14:59.02 | dardack | now that i have my red proto drake |
| 14:59.08 | dardack | i wish i could pay blizz to tran some moutns from 1 toon to another (not the 1% drop ones but the ones for godl you buy) |
| 14:59.29 | dardack | cause i have the mamaoth with vendors on my shaman, gonna buy it on my DK once i have a 6k cushion (2k to go) |
| 15:02.24 | ZorbaTHut | I keep spending all my money |
| 15:02.30 | Cruciformer | cide: another funny one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRD1wmvwUc&NR=1 |
| 15:02.39 | ZorbaTHut | someday I'll actually build up a reserve |
| 15:03.38 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, me too, Zorba. As if. *tragic sigh* |
| 15:03.43 | Cide | that's just bad |
| 15:03.48 | Cide | but pretty hilarious |
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| 15:04.41 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect I spend it in larger bulk - I just blew 15-20k on argent tournament pets, for example ;) |
| 15:05.31 | kamdis | I just bought an Azure Whelpling for my DK - 900g. I thought that was a steal. |
| 15:05.33 | ZorbaTHut | and I'm about to spend another 5k on dkp, assuming the guild needs it. fingers crossed. |
| 15:05.47 | ZorbaTHut | kamdis, it's a good price. the whelplings tend to hover around 1-1.5k |
| 15:05.52 | kamdis | Yep. |
| 15:06.09 | kamdis | There was a Dark one up for 1900. Passed on that. |
| 15:06.38 | ZorbaTHut | I ended up buying all four for about 4.5k |
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| 15:11.10 | Shirik|Ecole | Cruciformer: did you get my message? |
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| 15:11.22 | Lopeppeppy | afk lunchings! |
| 15:11.32 | Cruciformer | yessir |
| 15:11.36 | AckisWork | teabags ZorbaTHut |
| 15:11.53 | Cruciformer | any idea on teh front/back focusing thing? |
| 15:12.02 | AckisWork | ZorbaTHut: since you have so much gold, what's a good website to buy gold from? I used to buy from www.igetscammed.com but they shut down :( |
| 15:12.18 | Shirik|Ecole | what front/back focusing thing? I only had a few minutes before going to work |
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| 15:12.45 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, I buy all my gold from disenchanting.in.bulk.with.auctioneer.and.some.custom.tools |
| 15:12.47 | ZorbaTHut | .com |
| 15:12.50 | Cruciformer | ah. I have an issue where the camera consistently mis-focuses ... it usually front-focuses but sometimes backfocues. |
| 15:13.09 | Cruciformer | take teh same lens to a 1d mk3 (not id3) or a 40d and no focus problem. |
| 15:13.27 | Cruciformer | s/1d3/1ds/ |
| 15:13.31 | Shirik|Ecole | you're paying attention to where it's trying to focus, I assume |
| 15:13.39 | Shirik|Ecole | i.e., what it's reporting in the viewfinder |
| 15:13.40 | dardack | i solo KZ in about 2hrs and come out with about 600g just in vendor/gold drops |
| 15:13.53 | Cruciformer | I am ... center focus point only, well lit, tripod, remote shutter release |
| 15:13.54 | dardack | doesn't count the DE materials/cloth that sell well on my sever |
| 15:13.55 | Shirik|Ecole | however I would take this bet |
| 15:14.16 | ZorbaTHut | dardack, what class? |
| 15:14.22 | dardack | DK baby we so op |
| 15:14.30 | Shirik|Ecole | it sounds defective; did you just get it? |
| 15:14.32 | ZorbaTHut | you are :P |
| 15:14.41 | dardack | i've solo'd all of MC/zg (well haven't done gehenas with the restorative potions i want to try) |
| 15:14.42 | ZorbaTHut | I'm gonna try to do at least Attumen with my warrior |
| 15:14.45 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm willing to bet the same issue that's causing your noise problem is affecting the AF as well |
| 15:14.46 | ZorbaTHut | don't care about the rest as much |
| 15:14.54 | dardack | but i think they made those pots not be able to stack them now |
| 15:14.59 | ZorbaTHut | although I could use the rep, so I might see how much I can do |
| 15:15.00 | kamdis | Attumen is easy. |
| 15:15.08 | dardack | attumen is cake |
| 15:15.12 | Cruciformer | no the problem is I got it about 3 weeks after the 1dsmk3 was released, and I was living in teh USA at the time. Now the local canon agents are saying I need to send it back to canon USA instead of helping me here. |
| 15:15.15 | dardack | i had issues with getting past curator |
| 15:15.16 | ZorbaTHut | kamdis, as warrior, though? I have kind of limited regeneration. |
| 15:15.19 | dardack | he's immune to diseases |
| 15:15.26 | Shirik|Ecole | if the CCD can't get a good read off which to focus, it may misfocus too |
| 15:15.55 | dardack | oh and when i say solo KZ, i skip netherspite |
| 15:15.58 | Shirik|Ecole | while I don't think this will fix it |
| 15:15.59 | Cruciformer | Shirik|Ecole: I'm gonna try find the "noise" pic I took you can tell me if I am exagerating |
| 15:16.05 | dardack | can't stay in the grene beam for 2 phases |
| 15:16.10 | Shirik|Ecole | have you got the latest firmware? |
| 15:16.12 | Fisker | oh snap |
| 15:16.14 | Cruciformer | yup |
| 15:16.15 | Fisker | WD gone SSD |
| 15:16.36 | Cruciformer | that was the first thing I tried |
| 15:17.14 | kamdis | Zorba, i missed that part. |
| 15:17.19 | Cruciformer | and I can probably use a focus chart and do per-lense micro-adjustments but I shouldn't have tol I think for that price I have a reasonable expectation any L-series lens should just plop on and be perfect. |
| 15:17.19 | dardack | i finally got the hawkstrider, but baron's mount wont' drop |
| 15:17.22 | kamdis | I've done it np on my DK |
| 15:17.33 | Shirik|Ecole | no you shouldn't Cruciformer :) |
| 15:17.52 | Cruciformer | I shouldnt expect that or I shouldnt micro-adjust? |
| 15:17.52 | Shirik|Ecole | mine is functioning brilliantly, and my camera isn't as expensive as the 1ds mk 3 :) |
| 15:18.02 | Shirik|Ecole | shouldn't have to adjust |
| 15:18.03 | Cruciformer | ah |
| 15:18.06 | Shirik|Ecole | except in unusual cases |
| 15:18.44 | Cruciformer | I am so tempted to just get teh 5d mk2 and some cash as trade for my current one. How are you liking yours (other than the obvious brilliant low-light stuff) |
| 15:19.01 | Shirik|Ecole | it's pretty awesome :) |
| 15:19.32 | Cruciformer | looking at the features side by side I still dont understand (other than possibly a more rigid body and better sealing) why the 1dsmk3 is so much more expensive. |
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| 15:20.52 | Cruciformer | shirik Im gonan take this to /query so we dont bore people :) |
| 15:21.07 | AckisWork | too late |
| 15:21.10 | AckisWork | I'm already bored! |
| 15:21.11 | AckisWork | DAMN YOU |
| 15:21.15 | Shirik|Ecole | the 1DS AF system is better |
| 15:21.38 | Shirik|Ecole | the 5D Mk II's AF doesn't really cover the entire viewfinder |
| 15:21.43 | Shirik|Ecole | it's only 9 point |
| 15:22.29 | nicoli_s | only 9 points?!?! wtf |
| 15:23.06 | Fisker | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:23.07 | cogwheel | anyone else have problems with nvidia fan bearings? I've had 2 gpus and a chipset fan go bad in the last year... |
| 15:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | whoo, no objections to being woken up this early when the phone call is a job offer for someone who is going to start interviews on the 19th |
| 15:23.28 | ScytheBlade1 | cogwheel: nope |
| 15:23.40 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: hopefully it's for a job you're interested in then |
| 15:23.53 | ScytheBlade1 | pats his GF4MX440, 7600GT, and GTX260 all lovingly |
| 15:24.00 | ScytheBlade1 | glares at his 9700pro that died |
| 15:24.03 | dardack | cogwheel: not yet, but i am nervious about my laptop one since it seems to be on that list that was circulating awhile ago that dell's fix was to run the fan more |
| 15:24.12 | zenzelezz | stomps his GF2MX violently into the ground |
| 15:24.16 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 15:24.39 | zenzelezz | I still can't believe how long my 9800 Pro lasted |
| 15:24.39 | dardack | (i use linux so i use i8kfan 2 2 when playing wow so the fan runs at max and i8kfan 1 1 so it's medium when not playing wow or taxing the GPU) |
| 15:24.58 | cogwheel | i've got a 9800 pro at work that's still going strong |
| 15:25.08 | dardack | is that ATI? |
| 15:25.14 | zenzelezz | yes, the original 9800 |
| 15:25.17 | cogwheel | yes |
| 15:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually think my 9700p died not because of fan bearings, but because it had intense electrical problems |
| 15:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The entire card heated up to the point of nearly burning the skin to the touch when in use - even in 2D |
| 15:25.48 | dardack | oh i only buy nvidia cause i only use linux at home, so have no idea about ATI cards |
| 15:25.48 | ZorbaTHut | man, you guys must abuse your hardware. I'm still chugging along with an 8800gt :P |
| 15:25.49 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 15:26.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Touch the silicon board on the very far end of the card, away from most everything, and it'd be amazingly hot |
| 15:26.10 | dardack | i have an 8600 GS in my laptop |
| 15:26.14 | zenzelezz | ZorbaTHut: the 9700/9800 from ATi came long before the 8800 from nVidia |
| 15:26.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It cooked itself into obscurity quite nicely |
| 15:26.38 | ZorbaTHut | oh, didn't realize you were talking about the ati 9800, not the nvidia 9800 |
| 15:26.45 | zenzelezz | think I still have two old 9800 Pro (AGP) in my closets |
| 15:26.46 | ZorbaTHut | ugh, stupid numbers :P |
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| 15:31.49 | cogwheel | anyone have any idea why hybrid sleep would work fine under vista but not under win7? |
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| 15:31.58 | cogwheel | it wakes up about a minute after sleeping |
| 15:32.37 | nevcairiel | i would blame a bug in 7, being RC and all =) |
| 15:33.47 | ZorbaTHut | cogwheel, when I ran into that problem on an xp box, it turned out to be a service (vmware, in my case) that was waking the system up |
| 15:34.23 | cogwheel | it's a clean install plus drivers. |
| 15:34.33 | cogwheel | don't even have antivirus on it yet |
| 15:34.50 | cogwheel | could be drivers though... |
| 15:34.53 | ZorbaTHut | alright, no idea then. :) |
| 15:35.16 | cogwheel | i get about 20% improvement in framerates on win7 over vista |
| 15:35.20 | AckisWork | hahah http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/16/funny-pictures-video-kitteh-team-up/ |
| 15:35.35 | cogwheel | so i think it's worth using hibernate instead ;) |
| 15:36.18 | cogwheel | http://sluggy.com/images/comics/080728y.gif |
| 15:39.19 | AckisWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17730154175&sid=1 <-- ground mounts == 1.5 second cast, anyone know if the gcd for mounts/minipets is still there? |
| 15:39.30 | Lopeppeppy | Last I knew, yes, Ackis |
| 15:39.48 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: bleh :( they really need to remove gcd from them |
| 15:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | Suggestions forum ----> thataway, dear. |
| 15:40.19 | AckisWork | forum banned my dear |
| 15:40.29 | Lopeppeppy | Bribe the gf, dear. |
| 15:40.32 | Aelobin | elementary my dear watson |
| 15:40.55 | AckisWork | I used to post on her account then we got authenticators and it became difficult |
| 15:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | Posting on forums doesn't require an authenticator, Ackis. |
| 15:41.20 | cogwheel | i wish we had a video camera... my dog has been absolutely hilarious since we got him his cone... |
| 15:41.21 | AckisWork | logging in does I thought? |
| 15:41.33 | AckisWork | cogwheel: that was done w/ blackberry camera |
| 15:41.35 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. I've complained about that a lot, Ackis, id doesn't. |
| 15:42.43 | dardack | yea i wish loggin into forums required an authenticator but it doesn't |
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| 15:42.50 | Lothaer | gday |
| 15:43.13 | AckisWork | wow Lopeppeppy, that's so weird, I always thought it required it because of the bnet login |
| 15:43.33 | Lopeppeppy | Nopes. |
| 15:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | Which is D-U-M if you ask me. |
| 15:43.46 | AckisWork | very imo |
| 15:43.49 | AckisWork | it shows both her accounts |
| 15:44.05 | AckisWork | says she can't post on one because it's prohibited/expired |
| 15:44.12 | AckisWork | (it's expired) |
| 15:44.22 | AckisWork | yet for me, I have 4 accounts, it won't even let me log in |
| 15:45.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yer doin' it wrong somehow, dear. I can log in at work without my authenticator |
| 15:45.57 | AckisWork | I'm so confused |
| 15:46.24 | AckisWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779771327&postId=177780125707&sid=1#0 but I postedededed |
| 15:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for posting! |
| 15:46.55 | Fisker | epic suggestion |
| 15:47.06 | AckisWork | time to make 2 level 1 toons on her account: AckisTroll and PeppyTroll :D |
| 15:47.12 | Fisker | also i'm calling fail on the "revert" on flying mount cast time |
| 15:47.24 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 15:47.28 | Fisker | improve the suggestion |
| 15:47.32 | AckisWork | hrmm? |
| 15:47.35 | Fisker | Shouldn't trigger GCD but trigger a cooldown |
| 15:48.08 | AckisWork | cooldown on the mount/pet? |
| 15:48.20 | Fisker | just pet |
| 15:48.57 | AckisWork | *nod* updated |
| 15:49.28 | Cruciformer | does anyone know if I use the iphone authenticator and then upgrade the OS (to os3 tomorrow when it comes out) ... will it lose sync? |
| 15:49.28 | Fisker | you're a clever one |
| 15:49.34 | Fisker | Maybe |
| 15:49.36 | Fisker | resync it? |
| 15:49.46 | Fisker | Actually |
| 15:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ PeppyTroll |
| 15:49.52 | Lopeppeppy | snorts. |
| 15:49.56 | Fisker | remove it from b.net->upgrade->readd |
| 15:50.02 | Cruciformer | I havent used it yet I have been too nervous. Dont know where it stores the data and if its wiped by an update. |
| 15:50.06 | Fisker | gonna save you a couple of days on login frustrations |
| 15:50.22 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: :D |
| 15:50.58 | Cruciformer | ah I can decide to not use the authenticator? |
| 15:51.05 | jaxdahl | 1.5s cast time on flying mount makes it too easy to rez then fly away |
| 15:51.27 | Fisker | lol jaxdahl |
| 15:52.46 | AckisWork | so I subscribe to becketts MMO magazine, they had a 2 page article about gnomes... and I read it |
| 15:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | .......... |
| 15:56.34 | AckisWork | http://champions-online.com/ that's live now? |
| 15:56.43 | AckisWork | ScytheBlade1: they had a column dedicated to the underpants gnomes |
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| 15:58.10 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 15:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 16:05.03 | cogwheel | ditto |
| 16:07.26 | Lothaer | Ackis |
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| 16:07.49 | Lunessa | This chicken sandwich is hot, which is good, I guess 'cause it hides the lack of any other flavor. |
| 16:08.07 | Lothaer | whats new guys/gals? |
| 16:08.34 | AckisWork | heya Lothaer |
| 16:08.38 | cogwheel | Lothaer: my ISP and Hard drive? |
| 16:09.22 | cogwheel | and my doggie gets his stitches out today :) |
| 16:09.37 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I'm seriously considering the switch to AT&T's U-Verse because Comcast is sucking so hard. |
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| 16:10.59 | cogwheel | it's been totally worth it for the 16 hours we've had it so far :) |
| 16:11.37 | Kaelten | Anyone still looking for a blizcon ticket? |
| 16:12.02 | Lothaer | if you wanna pay for airfares and accomodation yeah |
| 16:12.13 | Kaelten | Lunessa: I'd kill for comcast againn, the mediacom service is blowing hard |
| 16:12.26 | Kaelten | Lothaer: hehe, sorry, all I gots is tickets |
| 16:12.44 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/16/funny-pictures-ryte-tempachurez/ |
| 16:12.47 | Lothaer | yeah wowui is giving some away as well but as i cant afford the airfares im not entering |
| 16:13.21 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 16:13.21 | Lunessa | Kaelten: That sucks. I'm sick of comcast randomly cycling my service on and off whenever they want. I've lost groups, died, and wiped raids because of it. |
| 16:13.24 | Kaelten | could start walking now |
| 16:13.40 | Lunessa | Kaelten: I am. |
| 16:13.52 | Lothaer | Kaelten: yeah i could lol |
| 16:13.53 | Kaelten | Lunessa: heh, I get about 4 times a day my internet cycle since i switch and the speed is unreliable |
| 16:14.07 | Lunessa | Oh man, that blows dude. |
| 16:14.18 | Kaelten | Lunessa: for a ticket? |
| 16:14.38 | Lunessa | Kaelten: Yes. I failed twice to purchase one. :( |
| 16:15.21 | zenzelezz | one of my Danish former guildies had an interesting connection. Each night at 20:30, to the minute, he'd get disconnected; but he could connect again right away |
| 16:15.39 | Lunessa | Watching the queue count down and knowing that the math doesn't work out for you is an agonizing thing to subject yourself to. |
| 16:15.42 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like parental controls kicking in... |
| 16:15.43 | Kaelten | Lunessa: also the mediacom DVR is absolutely horrid, it's text is made for a low def tv, and it's missing features like showing me what episodes are 'new' in the guide |
| 16:16.14 | cogwheel | i can't say i'm in love with the at&t dvr, but i haven't really used it much... |
| 16:16.22 | Lunessa | Kaelten: ATI TV Wonder 650 - use your computer for a DVR! |
| 16:16.23 | cogwheel | the fact that it's WinCE made me wince though... |
| 16:16.33 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 16:16.35 | Kaelten | very tempting |
| 16:16.40 | Kaelten | I need to build my NAS first though |
| 16:17.04 | Kaelten | I have some 500GB or so of movies and tv shows between my computers |
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| 16:17.24 | Lunessa | Kaelten: It's about $125 (maybe less) and USB - so you can get it for your Mac or Windows box. |
| 16:17.34 | Lothaer | old news but grats to the SK Gaming 3v3 arena team :D |
| 16:18.38 | dardack | i use mythtv |
| 16:18.46 | dardack | with PVr 500, 2xpvr250 |
| 16:18.50 | dardack | 2 tb storage |
| 16:18.51 | dardack | movies/tv |
| 16:19.10 | dardack | and then an appletv hacked with mythtv as a frontend (cheap), been debating upgrading to a mini actually computer tho |
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| 16:21.48 | Aelobin | Dagmar: lol that's gotta be a new record for netherweave bag sale xD like 2 seconds after putting 4 up, they all sell :P |
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| 16:26.52 | dardack | can't wait for servers to come back up for me |
| 16:27.24 | Lothaer | anyone here use the mod TweakWoW? |
| 16:27.41 | Lunessa | Lothaer: I haven't but it looked goof. |
| 16:28.30 | AckisWork | Lothaer: I use it |
| 16:28.42 | Lunessa | s/ goof/good |
| 16:29.00 | Lothaer | yeah heres what Reign of Fire looks like with spelleffect set to 509 with Tweak WoW http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/WoWScrnShot_061509_202347.jpg |
| 16:29.24 | Koren | Holy hell |
| 16:29.31 | Fisker | holy hell? |
| 16:29.32 | Lothaer | thats just 1 warlock |
| 16:29.46 | Fisker | i'm disappointed with the lack of shadows |
| 16:30.29 | haste | why are you posting that all the time Lothaer ? |
| 16:30.35 | haste | that's like the third time |
| 16:30.36 | Lothaer | lol |
| 16:30.36 | ZorbaTHut | you can never have too many fireballs |
| 16:30.43 | Fisker | haste |
| 16:30.48 | Fisker | why are you norwegian all of the time |
| 16:30.49 | Fisker | ? |
| 16:30.52 | Fisker | Knock it off |
| 16:30.55 | Lothaer | you shoulda seen Volley or Blizzard :D |
| 16:31.00 | haste | Fisker: because I'm the norwegian version of you! |
| 16:31.28 | haste | 18:31:10 haste@Midkemia /home/haste % grep -c WoWScrnShot_061509_202347 irclogs/freenode/\#wowuidev.log |
| 16:31.32 | haste | 3 |
| 16:31.34 | haste | I have evidence! |
| 16:32.00 | dardack | i hope they fix additional instances thing soon |
| 16:32.05 | Fisker | that's not proof haste |
| 16:32.13 | Fisker | for all you know it could've been someone else |
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| 16:32.36 | haste | velter Fisker. |
| 16:32.43 | Fisker | vælter haste |
| 16:32.43 | Lopeppeppy | dardack, I've seen posts that they're working on it and know it's an issue, but the fix will take time (and probably hardware, I'd assume) |
| 16:32.55 | dardack | oh i knwo lopepeppy |
| 16:33.08 | dardack | just it's a pain when it takes 30 minutes to zone and you only have 45 |
| 16:33.14 | Lopeppeppy | Soon (tm) is just their thing. *sigh* |
| 16:33.50 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: they need to add a queue system IMO, it's really frustrating to not be able to play =/ or just lower realm populations again |
| 16:34.02 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm to both, Ackis. |
| 16:35.03 | Lunessa | I think the issue is related to battle groups. I believe instance servers to be shared by an entire battle group. |
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| 16:36.13 | Lunessa | So - really it's a hardware issue - that and the fact that high-level toons are soloing older instances. |
| 16:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | Which uses up a "slot" in the instance system |
| 16:37.47 | dardack | yea like me |
| 16:38.14 | Lothaer | haste: well im Australian so i win |
| 16:39.07 | Lunessa | Only in Rabbits Vs Native Population. |
| 16:39.11 | dardack | i wonder if the phase system also led to this issue |
| 16:39.37 | Lunessa | dardack: I don't think Phasing requires the instance system to be invoked. |
| 16:39.44 | laeg | is there any addon that will switch out my macros dependent upon which class i've targetted? |
| 16:40.02 | laeg | maybe that would be too automated... |
| 16:40.24 | Lunessa | laeg: Not in combat. |
| 16:40.33 | dardack | not now, but let's say there were 5 instance servers per realm server (just for instance) and they took 1 to help with the phasing crap |
| 16:40.36 | dardack | i don't know |
| 16:40.50 | dardack | just a thought that before it hardly ever happened, and now every day |
| 16:41.36 | Lunessa | Well, the first 6 months of the expansion it was not an issue. Now it is. I think the population wave crested at 80 and the hardware expansion didn't keep up. |
| 16:41.42 | Cruciformer | dardack: happened to me when I was trying to farm argent dawn rep ... instance servers were constantly full coz about 5 bajillion other 80's were doing the same thing. |
| 16:41.54 | dardack | i now now since 80 |
| 16:41.56 | dardack | i'm saying BC |
| 16:42.12 | dardack | there was alot of farming of strat/zg at 70 |
| 16:42.49 | dardack | i'm just saying that when LK came out did they add addditional instance servers or hijack some to support phasing |
| 16:42.54 | Cruciformer | I suspect they re-purposed some of the instance servers as northrend zone servers |
| 16:42.57 | dardack | and now that the pop has hit 80, we have this issue |
| 16:43.15 | dardack | that's my point was all |
| 16:43.21 | Lothaer | hmmm for some reason when i goto minion.mmoui.com my nets freezes. |
| 16:43.25 | dardack | i believe there was just as much farming/instancing at 70 than at 80 |
| 16:43.26 | Fisker | hey AckisWork |
| 16:43.28 | Lothaer | well firefox atleast |
| 16:43.29 | Fisker | sc2 beta? |
| 16:44.00 | Cruciformer | grrr I wish google chromium would let me bind "/" as my "search" key |
| 16:44.53 | AckisWork | Fisker: I don't really care about SC2 |
| 16:46.35 | Lothaer | i want DIII beta :D |
| 16:46.43 | Lothaer | or FFXIV Beta |
| 16:48.14 | mikma | i want it all |
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| 16:49.34 | dardack | wait wait, are the instance server per battlegroup? |
| 16:49.39 | Lothaer | hmm Crown Lager |
| 16:49.51 | dardack | cause that makes me mad |
| 16:50.34 | Lothaer | its 2:10am and im chatting here and drinking a beer waiting for the servers to come up |
| 16:51.04 | dardack | i'm waiting too |
| 16:53.52 | Aqua | why are people so stupid... I answer the phone "Hello, 'my last name' residence." and they ask for someone with 'different last name' x 4 times |
| 16:53.52 | airtonix | dardack, http://www.wowwiki.com/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
| 16:54.43 | dardack | airtonix: that doesn't say if the instance servers are tied to battlegroups or indifvidual servers |
| 16:54.48 | dardack | and if it's battlegroups that just sux |
| 16:54.54 | airtonix | dardack, gives you a clue though |
| 16:55.21 | airtonix | dardack, why for example would they make instance servers work with realms or battlegroups not in the same datacenter? |
| 16:55.50 | airtonix | dardack, each data center on that list has at least two battlegroups |
| 16:56.05 | dardack | airtonix: i understand that, but i wouldn't even know the instance servers ip to even trace it, and again not sure how that says oh there are 5 instance servers for cyclone or there are 2 instance servers for draenor |
| 16:56.33 | airtonix | dardack, i dont agree with Lunessa in the idea that a battlegroup shares an instance server |
| 16:57.11 | Lunessa | airtonix: "an" would be too small in any case. :P |
| 16:57.31 | dardack | i don't know either way airtonix , i've seen it discussed but there seems no definately proof either way, i'm just saying if they did that to grab instance servers to help with northrend/phasing that sux monkey |
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| 16:58.38 | airtonix | dardack, from my understanding on how mangos server works each realm has its own process to handles instances |
| 16:59.06 | Aqua | mangos is a different ball game, compared to the actual wow no? |
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| 16:59.11 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 16:59.12 | airtonix | could be |
| 16:59.45 | Aqua | you can't really compare mangos and its workings to blizzard, and how backwards they usually are |
| 17:00.05 | Lopeppeppy | stifles a joke about comparing apples and mangos |
| 17:00.12 | dardack | heh |
| 17:00.14 | Aqua | I was waiting for that... |
| 17:00.24 | dardack | don't even know what mangos is besides the fruit |
| 17:00.37 | airtonix | lies |
| 17:00.50 | Aqua | mangos is an open source mmo server, basically its meant to emulate mmo servers |
| 17:00.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Then let's not describe it, shall we? |
| 17:00.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Or we'll go ahead and describe it |
| 17:01.02 | Aqua | and thats all i'm saying about that.... |
| 17:01.03 | ScytheBlade1 | That's option B, sure |
| 17:01.35 | dardack | but when it happens from 4pm eastern on every day, earlier on weekends (i live in EST but play in a PST server) it just stinks |
| 17:01.35 | Aqua | sorry ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:01.36 | dardack | is it taboo? |
| 17:01.39 | airtonix | apparently |
| 17:01.41 | dardack | sorry new to the mod game |
| 17:01.54 | Aqua | dardack, don't talk about it, a lot like fight club... |
| 17:02.00 | airtonix | All Hail Blizzard the mighty provider of Life |
| 17:02.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Taboo... here. |
| 17:02.02 | dardack | ahh |
| 17:02.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll say that |
| 17:02.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Not so much the mighty provider of life as this channel has strict rules concerning discussion of such stuff |
| 17:02.39 | Aqua | thats why i said "[12:01] (Aqua): and thats all i'm saying about that...." |
| 17:02.44 | Lopeppeppy | Been there once already today, bought the t-shirt. |
| 17:02.52 | Lunessa | We generally don't discuss, support, or have anything to do with, those things designed for the express purposes of breaking the EULA or ToU of the games we mod. |
| 17:02.57 | Aqua | Lopeppeppy, they have them in XXXLT? |
| 17:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure, Aqua, I only wear an XL. |
| 17:04.19 | Aqua | I have wide shoulders, have to wear baggy clothing |
| 17:04.23 | airtonix | cower. white picket fence. safe |
| 17:06.15 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, the elitist jerks admins really don't like it when you describe how frustrating it is to find information in pages of discussion in threads that don't maintain up-to-date summary posts... |
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| 17:07.25 | Pharaunmizz | There's a mentality of, "It's there, you just aren't willing to spend enough time finding it" about a lot of information |
| 17:07.39 | nevcairiel | they are elitist jerks, what do you expect VonhintenHOME` =P |
| 17:07.50 | VonhintenHOME` | good point nev... |
| 17:08.08 | VonhintenHOME` | and not very good with reading comprehension either.. the response in my ban notice didn't even make sense |
| 17:08.10 | Aqua | you can only lead a horse to the water, can't organize the drinking order and make sure they all get it |
| 17:08.22 | nevcairiel | but yeah, they ban fast for lazyness, even when the author of a good thread is even lazyer with not updating his stuff =P |
| 17:09.07 | Aqua | I wish i could test my mods when the servers were down, poo |
| 17:09.21 | Cruciformer | ike the druid "megathread" |
| 17:09.29 | VonhintenHOME` | EJ is becoming more and more useless to me... I find more useful info with google |
| 17:09.35 | Cruciformer | aqua: Is the ptr available? |
| 17:09.43 | Aqua | I don't believe so, |
| 17:10.03 | Aqua | I've been wrong before... |
| 17:10.08 | Lunessa | Be glad the login server is up and allowing connections to the forums. |
| 17:10.11 | dardack | or sorry didn't know that <that which shall not be named> was designed for breaking EULA/TOS/U like i said never heard of it before |
| 17:10.23 | ScytheBlade1 | No worries |
| 17:11.10 | Aqua | wow wowcompares is gone for a little bit |
| 17:11.20 | AckisWork | VonhintenHOME`: aye I wished they had updated faq's for classes instead of being out of date all the time =/ |
| 17:11.21 | Cruciformer | <that which shall not be named> == MacBeth? |
| 17:11.30 | Lopeppeppy | Voldemort |
| 17:11.36 | Aqua | ^ |
| 17:12.12 | Cruciformer | ah ... behold the difference in litterary associations. Shakespeare and Harry Potter. |
| 17:12.23 | AbsolutRayne | yawns |
| 17:12.25 | Aqua | wait, there is literature outside of harry potter? |
| 17:12.44 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://hdimage.org/images/h4691qmp6ou8rvvxi6i_ocrnhot061509145416.jpg Did I show you this? |
| 17:13.22 | Cruciformer | aqua: there are 2 other books that haveen writtten outside of harry potter: Robert Jordan's Waste of Time series, and Lord of the Rings. thats pretty much it. |
| 17:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot display the web page, AbsolutRayne. |
| 17:13.39 | Lunessa | Lies. Communist Propaganda. |
| 17:13.40 | Aqua | I've never read lord of the rings / watched any of the movies |
| 17:13.46 | Lopeppeppy | But you did some me some pretty pictures yesterday of WIP |
| 17:13.47 | AbsolutRayne | Grawr HDimage |
| 17:14.01 | VonhintenHOME` | Ackis, I don't even point my guildies there anymore... laziness is one thing, being forced to read through 3258 posts ("Rogue Simple Questions/Simple Answers" thread) is quite another |
| 17:14.11 | Cruciformer | you're mising out aquas |
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| 17:14.25 | Cruciformer | (on teh books. the movies were utter shite) |
| 17:14.40 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://i44.tinypic.com/1621ws6.jpg |
| 17:14.42 | Aqua | (having narcolepsy) I tend to fall asleep reading books |
| 17:14.55 | AbsolutRayne | Rogue DPS is Simple |
| 17:15.09 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm... interesting, AbsolutRayne. |
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| 17:15.23 | AbsolutRayne | Mut > Combat once your gear is good enough. Have Dual Spec for Ulduar because some of the fights such for Combat, and vise cersa. |
| 17:15.25 | AbsolutRayne | versa* |
| 17:15.51 | VonhintenHOME` | Combat all the way |
| 17:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | Loved my combat daggers |
| 17:16.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Mutilate can lick my bag |
| 17:16.00 | dardack | hey i love the waste of time series |
| 17:16.07 | dardack | even tho he died and the alst book better come out |
| 17:16.16 | AbsolutRayne | VonhintenHOME`: Your DPS is going to suffer huge as combat on certain fights. |
| 17:16.25 | AbsolutRayne | Kolg is a big example of this |
| 17:16.27 | Cruciformer | dark: It is, in november, although they have split it into 3. |
| 17:16.38 | dardack | wait what? |
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| 17:16.43 | dardack | to milk more money from me? |
| 17:16.50 | AbsolutRayne | You cant use Killing Spree at all that fight, unless vs Adds, which will get you brutalized. |
| 17:16.51 | dardack | gah haven't i already bought like 11 |
| 17:16.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Absolut, think so? You know I can blade flurry an arm and kologarn right? :) |
| 17:17.03 | dardack | (sorry not at home can'tcheck my airtight box storage of books) |
| 17:17.09 | Cruciformer | robert jordan's family appointed a ghostwriter to finish the series based on conversation he had with the family before he died, partial work he'd done and notes. |
| 17:17.14 | AbsolutRayne | VonhintenHOME`: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kil%27jaeden&n=Absolutshank I know. |
| 17:17.22 | dardack | sigh |
| 17:17.23 | Cruciformer | it was originally going to be 1 book but it was too much and they decided to split it into 3. |
| 17:17.35 | AbsolutRayne | Oh wait nm dont Bother. Armory is down like always. |
| 17:17.40 | dardack | yea but 3 books his length or 3 books star wars length |
| 17:17.45 | VonhintenHOME` | works for me |
| 17:17.45 | Cruciformer | and yes, you have to wait for the third for Tarmon'gaiden |
| 17:17.54 | AbsolutRayne | Anyway |
| 17:18.01 | Aqua | Anyone else midily disappointed with Star Trek? |
| 17:18.20 | dardack | Cruciformer: sorry it's been however long the last book came out that i read them, and i've had so much other readisn i forget, what is Tarmon'gaiden the last battle with what's his name? |
| 17:18.23 | AbsolutRayne | I know, I havent been fully through Uld, but I know theres a few fights with my Rogue where I wished I was Mut. |
| 17:18.30 | durcyn | Aqua: considering what came before? not in the least. |
| 17:18.45 | AbsolutRayne | And I hate Mut |
| 17:18.48 | Cruciformer | dark: yeah final battle between ran al'thor and the dark one |
| 17:18.53 | AbsolutRayne | With a passion on my love can match |
| 17:19.09 | dardack | and Aqua no i loved it, was amazged, my wife wanted to go see it mroe than I (she never was into sci fi till she met me 11 years ago, and firefly changed her (my) life) and so she loved it so much she netflix'd TNG series, can you say awesome |
| 17:19.14 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Im quite indifferent with the texture for the bars, tbqh. |
| 17:19.18 | durcyn | Aqua: I still think the title should've been "Star Trek: Fuck You, Rick Berman" |
| 17:19.38 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, a murderable boss, Mutilate will probably be higher. It's not so much higher than I'm worried about it |
| 17:19.53 | Aqua | It wasn't bad by any means, but I just kinda thought it was missing something |
| 17:19.55 | dardack | Cruciformer: thought so, just don't know specific names, i figured it would be last book, hope that (oh what's his name who leads but didn't mean to) saves that chick that went through the mirror or w/e |
| 17:20.03 | dardack | gah i'm terribad with names/stuff |
| 17:20.04 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne, then try a different texture? :P |
| 17:20.16 | Lopeppeppy | I usually prefer something less glossy,myself. |
| 17:20.18 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: I would love to, but the server is down. :P |
| 17:20.30 | Cruciformer | I kinda liked the new star trek. I was very cool how they managed to preserve most of the manerisms of spock/kirk with the new young actors, and choosing syler as spock was pure genius. |
| 17:20.41 | dardack | Aqua: sorry it's almost up there with wrath of kahn in my mind, i mean they ahve mad so many mistakes/bad tv/movies in the past years, that they needed a reboot |
| 17:20.43 | AbsolutRayne | Simon Pegg was Scotty. |
| 17:20.45 | dardack | it was getting bad |
| 17:20.46 | AbsolutRayne | That was all I cared about. |
| 17:20.49 | Lopeppeppy | Needs more Simon Pegg |
| 17:21.10 | VonhintenHOME` | Kirk, Bones and Spock were all cast really well |
| 17:21.19 | dardack | VonhintenHOME`: yes there were |
| 17:21.20 | VonhintenHOME` | Uhura I didn't care for |
| 17:21.41 | Lopeppeppy | Uhura was too... just too something, I wasn't sure what. But it's an alternate universe. |
| 17:21.43 | Aqua | I've seen it twice and i'm just so indifferent about it |
| 17:21.47 | dardack | tell me this how does that one country singer get her name at the end in big letters but was on the screen for litterally 10 sceonds |
| 17:21.47 | Cruciformer | anyone here a fan of Dan Simmon's Hyperion? |
| 17:21.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Too hawt? |
| 17:21.56 | VonhintenHOME` | Uhura wasn't hot |
| 17:22.05 | Cruciformer | (which is the best sci-fi series ever written) |
| 17:22.21 | AbsolutRayne | wants the Jumpgate Evolution beta to come out. :( |
| 17:22.37 | Aqua | wants to play Stargate: Worlds |
| 17:22.47 | dardack | yea when is stargate coming out? |
| 17:22.49 | Cruciformer | aqua: me too |
| 17:22.50 | NeoTron | neve |
| 17:22.52 | NeoTron | never |
| 17:22.57 | Aqua | ^ lies |
| 17:22.59 | NeoTron | no |
| 17:23.21 | NeoTron | it's highly unlikely that it'll come out. the company making it has been out of money for a few months at least |
| 17:23.33 | Cruciformer | cheyenne? |
| 17:23.47 | NeoTron | yes |
| 17:23.54 | Cruciformer | I thiought they had major backing from MGM for stargate worlds |
| 17:24.00 | NeoTron | no |
| 17:24.34 | Cruciformer | pity :/ |
| 17:24.37 | Aqua | they are still developing, because you can apply for the beta |
| 17:24.38 | AbsolutRayne | :(Jumpgate |
| 17:25.31 | AbsolutRayne | Their entire UI is flash based. |
| 17:25.36 | AbsolutRayne | Which is making me giddy. |
| 17:25.39 | Nechckn | There are so many issues, who knows. It almost surely won't be this year by any stretch |
| 17:25.41 | NeoTron | Aqua: because having a website are hard |
| 17:25.46 | AbsolutRayne | I hate coding it, but the things you can do with it.... /drool |
| 17:26.06 | Aqua | NeoTron, I know... |
| 17:26.11 | dardack | so in new patch is more arena tournament stuff coming? |
| 17:26.42 | NeoTron | seriously I give SWG an about 5% chance of even making it into some sort of public version (beta or release) |
| 17:26.52 | NeoTron | and about 10% chance, if it makes that 5% chance, to be worth playing |
| 17:26.52 | dardack | servers up |
| 17:26.55 | NeoTron | and that's generous |
| 17:27.13 | Nechckn | the beta was decent |
| 17:27.25 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:27.47 | NeoTron | or at least very incomplete |
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| 17:27.55 | Nechckn | dunno what they expected, it was the closed F&F one, it was more playable than WoW at that point |
| 17:27.55 | Cruciformer | thats a real pity. the idea had SO much potential. |
| 17:28.26 | Nechckn | Hopefully someone else picks up the idea |
| 17:28.30 | NeoTron | http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/242/view/forums/thread/231100/Brad-Wright-declares-SGW-all-but-dead-in-secon-interview.html |
| 17:28.50 | NeoTron | closed F&F in WoW was highly playable, not sure what you're talking about |
| 17:28.58 | Cide | AbsolutRayne: I bet you can do just as much with wow's ui |
| 17:29.13 | NeoTron | the only thing that truly changed from january 2004 to release was the concept of talents |
| 17:30.04 | Nechckn | it was in that, too NeoTron |
| 17:30.11 | Nechckn | that's my point |
| 17:30.45 | Nechckn | There were some glitches and all, but it was certainly working with hiding behind things blocking gunfire, etc |
| 17:31.53 | Cruciformer | since it was using the unreal3 engine you would hope their collision detection was good ... they mad ea big hoopla about that video clip and it really wasnt anything that grand. |
| 17:31.54 | Nechckn | the whole Lua system looked promising, too. At least they had learned something from others. |
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| 17:33.26 | Nechckn | But, as was said in that interview, if not now, then it will likely not ever be done. |
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| 17:33.58 | Nechckn | This is almost surely the final Stargate show coming up in "Universe" without much of anything else to maintain a following |
| 17:34.48 | Cruciformer | I thought the original could have gone on longer. atlantis was meh but the oiginal had places to go withteh auri |
| 17:35.02 | Nechckn | NeoTron I'll put it this way, to me, it's F&F was as good as Tabula Rasa, at least. |
| 17:35.20 | Cruciformer | F&F? |
| 17:35.30 | Nechckn | not to say that is any amazing yardstick... but it's the closest thing I can think of off hand |
| 17:35.51 | Nechckn | the "Friend and Family Beta" instead of "open" Cruciformer |
| 17:36.07 | Cruciformer | tyvm |
| 17:36.27 | NeoTron | Nechckn: Tabula Rasa, of course, wasn't very good and died quickly |
| 17:36.29 | Nechckn | np =) |
| 17:36.49 | NeoTron | Nechckn: and it wasn't F&F since this guy most definitely was not a F&F. it was (what he was in) first iteration of closed beta, not F&F |
| 17:36.57 | Aqua | i have stargate dvd' |
| 17:37.00 | Nechckn | agree that it wasn't that great |
| 17:37.05 | Aqua | *dvd's, i can rewatch whenever i want |
| 17:37.24 | NeoTron | the closed beta of WoW was quite a bit later, and much more polished, than the F&F alpha |
| 17:37.31 | Nechckn | NeoTron that was the "title". Don't know about anything else |
| 17:37.34 | NeoTron | Nechckn: when did you join the wow testing? |
| 17:37.50 | Aqua | some of the servers are back up |
| 17:37.53 | Aqua | wonder what they broke |
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| 17:38.44 | KarlKFI | dunno about polished, but it had more functionality :P when did talents go in again? |
| 17:38.54 | Nechckn | exact date? dunno.. was a while before launch, ~5 months or so, I'd say, at a guess. Then I didn't pick it up right away at launch, so I don't have a good reference. |
| 17:38.59 | NeoTron | talents were late |
| 17:39.22 | KarlKFI | yeah.. like stress test beta late? |
| 17:39.24 | Nechckn | only played for a few hours |
| 17:39.34 | NeoTron | you weren't in the F&F then |
| 17:40.13 | dardack | ok i added localization, and now my /command gui in my main.lua file clames that my maine frame in my main_GUI.xml file is nill |
| 17:40.31 | Nechckn | Not for WoW, no.. for SGW. Played in the beta for WoW though, surely. |
| 17:41.22 | NeoTron | WoW was very solid - except for random tweaks (and this was primarily with the skill system - skill points, crafting, talents - that sort of thing changed a lot), and content F&F alpha didn't feel much different than release |
| 17:41.32 | NeoTron | I liked how, in the beginning, all skills required training |
| 17:41.38 | NeoTron | like weapon skills |
| 17:41.55 | NeoTron | i.e arcane magic, fire magic, frost magic, feral combat etc all required using the skills to level them up |
| 17:41.57 | Aqua | Time for a dumb question:...... where can i find an addon that when i ask a guard where something is, it creates a note so i don't have to go ask a guard again |
| 17:42.48 | Nechckn | Well, based on the game play itself, it was similar with restarts, patches, usual beta stuff. Not sure what you are getting at |
| 17:43.33 | Nechckn | I'm surely not defending them, nor saying it was ready to have the gold stamp stuck to the box, if that's what you think. |
| 17:43.55 | NeoTron | just saying that I doubt it was as solid as early wow was |
| 17:44.02 | Nechckn | Just that it was fairly far along from the mechanics and all |
| 17:44.04 | NeoTron | that said, the closer to release, the worse the patches became |
| 17:44.18 | NeoTron | you can literally see the quality drop through the floor as they enter more and more into "crunch mode" |
| 17:44.19 | Nechckn | Not that it was a series of screen shots or whatever |
| 17:44.37 | NeoTron | if there ever was hard proof that "crunch mode" equals "crap mode", WoW was it |
| 17:44.50 | Aqua | someone, anyone? |
| 17:46.24 | Aqua | wow, crickets |
| 17:47.55 | durcyn | Aqua: uh, HandyNotes_Directions |
| 17:48.43 | Nechckn | The starter planet/area was interesting, as was Abidos - but that was the extent, so anything as far as story arc and all is questionable- but the rest was decent, as far as the types of abilities that were there, targeting, and all the other fun stuff like that. |
| 17:48.45 | Aqua | thanks |
| 17:51.38 | Aqua | wow, i can't even find that addon durcyn |
| 17:52.01 | durcyn | it's on wowace |
| 17:52.44 | Nechckn | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/handy-notes_directions.aspx |
| 17:52.50 | Aqua | thanks |
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| 17:53.09 | Aqua | must have typed something wrong into google, I need a nap |
| 17:54.19 | Nechckn | naps are the cure to all ills |
| 17:55.33 | Lopeppeppy | in dog we trust |
| 17:56.07 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, not really the cure for narcolepsy now is it |
| 17:56.47 | Nechckn | all ills, Thunder_Child ALL!!! |
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| 17:59.04 | Aqua | i have narcolepsy, i get tired... |
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| 17:59.25 | Aqua | one of the smart things you can do it lay down and rest |
| 17:59.40 | dardack | ok if i have a global MRMGUIMainFrame_MountLabel(1-24) how do i do: _G["MRMGUIMainFrame_MountLabel"..i]:SetText("") |
| 17:59.43 | Aqua | so good night... |
| 18:00.32 | Cruciformer | getgloba("Whatever"..i):SetText |
| 18:00.47 | Cruciformer | getglobal |
| 18:00.55 | foxlit | getglobe! |
| 18:00.57 | dardack | so not _G? |
| 18:01.22 | Cruciformer | geetglobal will refer back to _G |
| 18:01.26 | ScytheBlade1 | whoo |
| 18:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | PA poll results: http://www.penny-arcade.com/uploads/2009/06/16/results2.png |
| 18:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That's tentative, but I have hopes |
| 18:01.53 | foxlit | /mourn |
| 18:02.04 | foxlit | Clearly need to cast my pocket 5000 votes. |
| 18:02.04 | kd3 | meh, I was kinda hoping for lookouts |
| 18:02.36 | Cruciformer | k all this talk of taking naps has made me want one. Later all. |
| 18:02.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.penny-arcade.com/uploads/2009/06/10/lookoutswall_1920.jpg IS amazing |
| 18:02.44 | dardack | attempt to call method SetText a nil value |
| 18:04.25 | Cruciformer | then MRMGUblah_MountTable1 isnt something that has a SetText method |
| 18:05.19 | dardack | <FontString name=MRMGUIMainFrame_MountLabel1 justifyH="LEFT" inherits="GameFontNormal"> where MRMBlah_MT1 = "MRMBlah_MT1 |
| 18:05.21 | dardack | " |
| 18:07.06 | dardack | if i don't set a variable and just leave name="MRMblah_ML1" than it says attempt to index field '?' a nil value |
| 18:07.08 | Cruciformer | Sorry cnt help you there I abhore xml and use the API calls |
| 18:07.28 | dardack | guess i shouldn't have tried to localize |
| 18:07.52 | Cruciformer | what does localisation have to do with it? |
| 18:08.05 | dardack | it worked before i put it in |
| 18:08.17 | Cruciformer | something else has gone awry :) |
| 18:08.34 | dardack | don't think so, couldn't even call the mainframe until i set a global mainframe in the localized file |
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| 18:08.48 | Cruciformer | maybe you are calling that getglobal(...) at teh wrong time and the fontstring hasnt been created yet |
| 18:09.01 | dardack | i had if (MRMMainFrame:IsVisible()) and that said that was nil |
| 18:09.43 | Cruciformer | sounds like a script timing issue to me but then I never use XML so ignore everything I say |
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| 18:10.41 | dardack | ok |
| 18:12.23 | dardack | yea i can't figure this out |
| 18:12.26 | dardack | how to localize it |
| 18:12.32 | dardack | but yet have the xml file load |
| 18:13.21 | foxlit | What could you possibly be doing? |
| 18:13.31 | dardack | i don't know |
| 18:13.39 | dardack | i just added a localization.enUS.lua file |
| 18:13.44 | dardack | added it to the .toc file |
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| 18:13.47 | dardack | at the end |
| 18:14.00 | dardack | and then replaced text strings in the main.lua file with the global variables |
| 18:14.08 | dardack | and now it can't find any of the xml defined objects |
| 18:14.21 | foxlit | pastey both files? |
| 18:14.43 | dardack | which both main lua, gui xml gui lua localization file? |
| 18:14.55 | foxlit | just xml and localization |
| 18:15.00 | dardack | ok |
| 18:17.03 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116148 xml |
| 18:17.09 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116149 localize |
| 18:18.15 | foxlit | hm, so the main lua as well. |
| 18:18.17 | dardack | now the first command i can run is /rdm gui and it states attempt to index global MRMMainFrame a nil value |
| 18:19.05 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116150 |
| 18:20.04 | foxlit | Did you change the XML at all? |
| 18:20.37 | dardack | just in certain areas |
| 18:20.40 | dardack | like |
| 18:20.45 | foxlit | Right |
| 18:20.49 | foxlit | Find Logs/FrameXML.log |
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| 18:21.12 | foxlit | It'll tell you that your XML file does not load |
| 18:21.25 | cogwheel | so in a last-ditch effort to maintain their stupidity, Comcast is making me physically bring my cable modem to them in order to cancel my account. Once I do that they'll send someone out to the house to cut off our service.... |
| 18:21.29 | foxlit | Mostly because you can't do things like <FontString ... text="|cff00FF00"..MRMInList.."|r"> |
| 18:21.58 | dardack | 6/16 14:20:30.000 Couldn't parse XML in Interface\AddOns\MountRandomMount\MountRandomMount_GUI.xml |
| 18:22.01 | dardack | oh |
| 18:22.07 | cogwheel | as opposed to sending someone out to cut us off and taking the modem with them... |
| 18:22.14 | foxlit | text="" is an XML attribute, not a lua expression |
| 18:22.18 | dardack | so put the color in the localized? |
| 18:22.21 | foxlit | so you can't really use Lua variables within it. |
| 18:22.39 | Nechckn | cogwheel that is insane |
| 18:22.42 | durcyn | cogwheel: unscrewing an RG62 line from a splitter takes a highly trained professional |
| 18:22.43 | foxlit | Ideally, you'd put the color on the font string font; but that could be trickier than I care to explain. |
| 18:22.52 | dardack | so can you not color the text, i mean before i had "|cff00ff00 In List|r" and it was fine |
| 18:23.02 | foxlit | You can do that. |
| 18:23.10 | dardack | but then In list isnt' localized right? |
| 18:23.17 | foxlit | Because "\cff... |r" is still a valid string. It won't be localized then. |
| 18:23.44 | foxlit | If you want to replace the string with your localized version, you'll have to call fontString:SetText(localizedString) after your localization and XML loads. |
| 18:23.51 | dardack | so can i have MRMInlist = "|cff00ff00 In List|r"? |
| 18:24.04 | foxlit | Is probably the easiest solution for you. |
| 18:24.36 | foxlit | There are some (rather arcane) rules about when XML text="" attribute values are substituted for Lua globals, but that's an area it's probably better to avoid. |
| 18:25.10 | dardack | ok thanks for the help foxlit |
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| 18:26.06 | Lothaer | hey anyone know what happens when 2 battle-bots of the same color fuel get close to each other? |
| 18:26.17 | dardack | nothing |
| 18:26.20 | Koren | Lightning zaps, iirc |
| 18:26.30 | Koren | No damage or anything |
| 18:26.37 | Koren | Just lightning |
| 18:27.12 | KarlKFI | how do you get fuel in them? |
| 18:27.23 | Lothaer | goto the mountaindewgamefuel.com site |
| 18:27.40 | Lothaer | i thought the were powering each other up or repairing |
| 18:27.49 | Nechckn | a baby battle-bot of the same color is conceived, silly |
| 18:28.03 | Koren | Nah, I don't think I've seen the bots heal |
| 18:28.23 | dardack | still doesn't work and i removed those things |
| 18:29.26 | dardack | ok |
| 18:29.45 | dardack | aparently you can't even do text = Variable where variable = "text" |
| 18:29.48 | dardack | at all in xml |
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| 18:33.15 | foxlit | But the interesting part is that things like |
| 18:33.25 | foxlit | <FontString ... text="OKAY"> |
| 18:33.39 | foxlit | Don't actually make the FontString display "OKAY" |
| 18:34.00 | AckisWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2gIPnUCgw |
| 18:35.42 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: is there a current version of RessourceTools somewhere? |
| 18:35.47 | Gnarfoz | *ResourceTools |
| 18:35.51 | Shadowed | whatever is on WOWI |
| 18:36.07 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 18:36.11 | Gnarfoz | ah I fail at searching |
| 18:36.14 | dardack | ok i'm trying to localize the print command list, but it doesn't seem to work |
| 18:36.18 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't recognize folder names ;> |
| 18:36.52 | dardack | doh have to put a space after /n |
| 18:36.57 | dardack | \n |
| 18:38.17 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: ah well, I had some really old version it seems :) |
| 18:40.41 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: is there some way to move the damn RT frame? :p |
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| 18:40.56 | Shadowed | not really |
| 18:41.33 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 18:42.44 | Shadowed | keep in mind this is a project I did at the start of TBC |
| 18:42.45 | Shadowed | and basically never touched it after that |
| 18:44.02 | dardack | is this now protected? CastSpellByName( |
| 18:44.30 | dardack | nvm i see it is |
| 18:44.56 | dardack | is there a non protected call to cast a spell? |
| 18:45.16 | foxlit | that would defeat the point of protecting CastSpellByName, wouldn't it? |
| 18:45.42 | foxlit | You're looking for http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 18:46.53 | dardack | that always confused me |
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| 18:49.05 | dardack | how to I then use this btn http://wowuidev.pastey.net/116153 |
| 18:49.55 | TC-Away | KarlKFI, ping |
| 18:50.04 | KarlKFI | ? |
| 18:50.12 | Thunder_Child | do you do 2s? |
| 18:51.27 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 18:51.37 | Thunder_Child | do you use kings or might? |
| 18:51.38 | KarlKFI | but I only just got a priest |
| 18:51.45 | KarlKFI | I use might |
| 18:52.06 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
| 18:52.35 | KarlKFI | i need all the burst help i can get. |
| 18:53.03 | KarlKFI | staying alive generally isn't the problem |
| 18:53.22 | Thunder_Child | it is if it is a pure dps team |
| 18:54.02 | KarlKFI | debatable, but i usually use might anyway |
| 18:54.06 | dardack | ok i can't do btn:Click() |
| 18:56.47 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI, i will be unamused if they turn vindication into something usable again |
| 18:56.57 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
| 18:57.08 | KarlKFI | i have a really hard time killign druid and priest healers now |
| 18:57.49 | Thunder_Child | pallys always had a hard time killing me regardless of vindication. MS was what really fucked me up. |
| 19:01.17 | dardack | anyone able to help with SecureActionButtonTemplate to cast a spell without having a player click on a physical button but use a binding? |
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| 19:05.32 | Thunder_Child | dardack, have you lookd though an addon that already does that? |
| 19:05.41 | dardack | trying |
| 19:05.46 | dardack | don't know of one |
| 19:05.55 | dardack | well a simple one |
| 19:06.05 | dardack | smartbuff does but there is so much in there haven't narrowed it down |
| 19:06.09 | Thunder_Child | well even bindings use a keypress |
| 19:06.22 | Thunder_Child | or some hardware event |
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| 19:07.56 | dardack | ok i can use SetBindingClick |
| 19:08.11 | dardack | but how do i determine what key is bound to that binding (that the player selected) |
| 19:10.29 | dardack | ok think i figured it out |
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| 19:17.41 | dardack | nvm didn't |
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| 19:19.27 | harl | hi |
| 19:26.07 | Thunder_Child | hello harl |
| 19:26.33 | harl | ;) |
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| 19:29.29 | Thunder_Child | did cair go on vacation somewhere? |
| 19:30.25 | Nechckn | tied up in my basement as I am typing, Thunder_Child (though she'll likely claim otherwise when she returns) |
| 19:30.52 | Nechckn | I'm trying out my waterboarding non-torture on unsuspecting victims. Any other takers? |
| 19:30.56 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn, so she isnt tied up when you arent typing? |
| 19:31.22 | Nechckn | Oh.. she is still tied up... just not alone. =) |
| 19:31.35 | Thunder_Child | my friend got waterboarded for his birthday |
| 19:31.48 | Nechckn | Sounds exciting |
| 19:32.08 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds implausible. *laugh* |
| 19:32.36 | NeoTron | happy. <splash> birthday <splash> to you <splash> |
| 19:32.53 | Thunder_Child | well thats what he called going swiming for a number of hours after not having gone for years |
| 19:33.00 | Nechckn | nothing like a drowning to celebrate the changing of the years |
| 19:33.31 | Lopeppeppy | I'll keep that in mind. |
| 19:34.49 | dardack | anyone know a way to create a secureactionbuttontemplate in lua and than call that spell? |
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| 19:56.48 | Lothaer | soo |
| 19:57.30 | Thunder_Child | no |
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| 20:05.39 | dardack | ok figured it out |
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| 20:24.45 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/16/funny-pictures-fix-what-you-did/ |
| 20:31.28 | Thunder_Child | so are all the people commenting actually idiots or does the comments auto translate to lolspeak? |
| 20:32.31 | nicoli_s | i just assumed they were idiots |
| 20:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | im pretty sure they're all idiots |
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| 20:34.15 | drfuzzykins | whois drfuzzykins |
| 20:34.22 | drfuzzykins | ... -_- |
| 20:36.25 | NeoTron | they are not idiots |
| 20:36.45 | NeoTron | they are just rping in lolcat speak |
| 20:37.09 | Thunder_Child | just because you identify with them ddoesnt mean they are not idiots |
| 20:39.06 | zenzelezz | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_206/6167-The-Shrooms-of-Oblivion o_O |
| 20:39.17 | Fisker | NeoTron i fail to see the difference |
| 20:42.32 | Shirik|Ecole | bad C#! |
| 20:42.50 | Shirik|Ecole | for (int i = 0; i < 5; ++i) { ... } ... int i = 3; // illegal |
| 20:43.08 | Shirik|Ecole | apparently that's a redefinition of i |
| 20:43.58 | krka | same in java |
| 20:44.29 | krka | i don't particularly like that rule, but i guess some people get confused by code like that |
| 20:44.49 | Fisker | slaps Shirik|Ecole around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:44.52 | Fisker | bad Shirik |
| 20:45.30 | nicoli_s | really? i could have thought you could do that in c# |
| 20:45.35 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: well, what does the C# standard say about it? |
| 20:45.52 | zenzelezz | I'm assuming you're not basing your opinion on the C++ standard or any other non-C# standard |
| 20:45.53 | foxlit | "krka: same in java" eh? |
| 20:46.33 | foxlit | It's perfectly legal in Java. |
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| 20:46.56 | krka | ah sorry misread the code |
| 20:47.04 | krka | i thought it was: for (int i = 0; i < 5; ++i) { int i = 3; } |
| 20:47.08 | Beladona | mmm, I like trout |
| 20:47.31 | Shirik|Ecole | zenzelezz: I would hope the C# standard says it's illegal |
| 20:47.31 | foxlit | Short Answer: No. |
| 20:47.31 | foxlit | Long Answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. |
| 20:47.41 | Shirik|Ecole | which is why I said bad C# |
| 20:47.50 | krka | badly translated answer: Do not want! |
| 20:47.53 | zenzelezz | Shirik|Ecole: I would hope so too; but you shouldn't go calling it "bad" until you know - it could be a concious language decision |
| 20:48.21 | Shirik|Ecole | C# was not in any form concious |
| 20:48.25 | Shirik|Ecole | it was business |
| 20:48.34 | Shirik|Ecole | they just happen to have done things right |
| 20:48.35 | krka | i'm guessing c# treats it as int i = 3; for (int i = 0; i < 5; ++i) { ... } |
| 20:48.41 | krka | which would be illegal even in java |
| 20:51.04 | Fisker | slaps Shirik|Ecole around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:56.54 | Fisker | FAILINSIDER IS FAIL |
| 20:56.59 | Fisker | http://www.wow.com/2009/06/16/save-your-authenticator-serial-number-before-upgrading-your-ipho/ |
| 20:57.11 | sacarasc | Failsker is fail. |
| 20:57.15 | Fisker | no |
| 20:57.51 | Fisker | saving the serial number would be pointless |
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| 21:00.32 | Beladona | yeah um |
| 21:00.34 | Beladona | remove it from your account, THEN upgrade |
| 21:00.39 | Beladona | then add it again |
| 21:00.44 | Beladona | but we all knew that |
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| 21:05.53 | Lunessa | WoWInsider is usually FAIL |
| 21:06.18 | Fisker | well everyone but failinsider knew to remove the authenticator |
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| 21:11.37 | cogwheel | Lunessa: Mrs. Kitty should actually be called Mrs. Doggy, since she and Mr. Doggy get along ... ahem ... famously |
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| 21:12.17 | Lunessa | Well, you know what they say... Big cats are dangerous, but a little ______ never hurt anyone. |
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| 21:19.33 | Roofel | Hmm, anyone here know why I constantly get this message constantly when im trying to get the addon to work? " '<eof>' expected near 'end'" |
| 21:19.46 | Roofel | I have a end and closed everything until the end but I still get that freaking message -.- |
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| 21:20.29 | durcyn | Roofel: luac -l -p and/or a syntax-highlighting editor |
| 21:20.45 | Roofel | using notepad++ for editing :P |
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| 21:21.31 | Roofel | it highlights everything mostly :) |
| 21:21.37 | Roofel | but I still cant see the error |
| 21:21.56 | foxlit | "" '<eof>' expected near 'end'"" << you have too many ends |
| 21:22.12 | foxlit | It gives you a line number of the end that doesn't match up with a begin. |
| 21:22.26 | Roofel | yes, it was the last end |
| 21:22.36 | Roofel | apparently I managed to close it higher up |
| 21:22.42 | Roofel | it was fixed after :P |
| 21:23.20 | kd3 | oops, fark: California elementary school students lose their summer vacation after their school district fails math, accidentally cuts 34 days off of the school year [Fail] |
| 21:23.50 | Roofel | xD |
| 21:24.03 | foxlit | [Win!] |
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| 21:27.06 | nicoli_s | so wait, they get 34 more days off? how is that fail, thats awesome |
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| 21:29.15 | Roofel | Hmm, isnt "string.lower(nameofit)" the way to go when you want to make something typed in into only lower cases? |
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| 21:29.49 | Roofel | got "msg = string.lower(msg)" yet it returns an error saying it expected a string but got nil |
| 21:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | msg is null |
| 21:30.57 | durcyn | there's a state law that only counts partial school days if they're 180 minutes or more, and that particular school/district/whatever let them out after 175 minutes |
| 21:31.07 | durcyn | five minutes is very serious business in california |
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| 21:32.15 | Roofel | Here is the parts that is there, I double checked with another addon and it got itself set on almost the same way |
| 21:32.17 | Roofel | http://pastebin.com/ddb32e71 |
| 21:34.11 | foxlit | SlashCmdList["REBIRTHMONITOR"] = RebirthMonitor_Command(msg) |
| 21:34.13 | foxlit | is crap. |
| 21:34.30 | Roofel | how? |
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| 21:35.53 | Kraps | imo camping rare spawn points is a waste of time |
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| 21:36.01 | Cloudwolf | nice topic |
| 21:36.23 | foxlit | Roofel: it calls a value |
| 21:36.34 | foxlit | You're looking for SlashCmdList["REBIRTHMONITOR"] = RebirthMonitor_Command; instead |
| 21:36.35 | Roofel | hmm, the (msg) part? |
| 21:36.43 | foxlit | yes. |
| 21:37.03 | Cide | unless the function is a factory for slash command functions. |
| 21:37.06 | Roofel | Makes sense |
| 21:38.41 | foxlit | It's also weird |
| 21:38.57 | foxlit | If you declare your function further down, it shouldn't be able to call it. |
| 21:40.22 | Roofel | the language is a wonder :O |
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| 21:41.22 | Cide | or you're not giving us the code you're using, or you're getting an error already |
| 21:45.19 | Roofel | nah, it worked after the msg was removed |
| 21:45.46 | Roofel | now all the slash commands works |
| 21:46.12 | Roofel | also, what is the difference between "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage" and "print"? |
| 21:46.23 | Roofel | Havent found any difference than that it is shorter to write >.< |
| 21:47.46 | End | different args |
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| 21:48.32 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: Resource Tools Event Profiling - shows the same amount of seconds, avg & called for *every* event - is this broken or something terribly wrong on my end? :D |
| 21:48.45 | Shadowed | probably the former |
| 21:48.55 | Gnarfoz | dang |
| 21:49.00 | Roofel | so for usual "printing" on the screen it doesnt matter if I use print or AddMessage? |
| 21:49.00 | Shadowed | as I said, it's a project I did when TBC first came out then never touched it, it's a tad out of date code wise :p |
| 21:49.12 | Shadowed | I should redo it somepoint but no motivation |
| 21:49.22 | Gnarfoz | must have touched it to fix some 3.0 breakage at some point :D |
| 21:49.31 | Shadowed | I don't think 3.0 broke anything |
| 21:49.34 | Gnarfoz | (that's why I was asking earlier, my version was broken :D) |
| 21:49.42 | foxlit | 3.0 broke all secure headers. |
| 21:49.48 | Shadowed | except I don't use secure headers |
| 21:49.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah it tried to use some function that wasn't there anymore or something |
| 21:49.49 | Shadowed | so! |
| 21:49.55 | Gnarfoz | don't recall right now |
| 21:49.56 | foxlit | then again, my short read-back is probably being impractical. |
| 21:50.03 | Gnarfoz | rest of it seems to work fine though |
| 21:50.26 | Gnarfoz | seems I've gotta ditch PitBull (no surprise there) and Acheron :X |
| 21:51.02 | Shadowed | I've never had much need for it which is why I never really done any work to it |
| 21:51.08 | Gnarfoz | Aloft is probably being credited with everything that's Ace2 based, doubt it's on #3 on it's own ^^ |
| 21:51.17 | Shadowed | odds are |
| 21:51.22 | Shadowed | Aloft would be #1 :> |
| 21:51.27 | Shadowed | given how badly it's programmed |
| 21:51.34 | Gnarfoz | aloft is #3 |
| 21:51.40 | Shadowed | magic |
| 21:51.44 | Gnarfoz | and the version on wowi is not that bad |
| 21:52.15 | Gnarfoz | (I also contest all this "that addon is SO badly programmed" stuff, especially when no addon out there does what this one does :P) |
| 21:52.25 | Gnarfoz | -contest, +dislike |
| 21:52.36 | Shadowed | that's because working with nameplates is like hammering nails through your eyes |
| 21:52.49 | Gnarfoz | kudos belong to you, obviously, for figuring out how to even do half of what Aloft accomplishes |
| 21:52.53 | Shadowed | easy if you want to do basic things, as soon as you get into resizing and putting things onto them you'll drive yourself crazy |
| 21:53.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I guess that's why the original author dropped it a long time ago, hehe |
| 21:53.14 | Shadowed | you realize that I did a nameplates mod long before Aloft did? :p |
| 21:53.22 | Gnarfoz | didn't I *just* say that? |
| 21:53.24 | Shadowed | it's horrible to do anything with them |
| 21:53.26 | AbsolutRayne | burp |
| 21:53.30 | Shadowed | sounded sarcastic! |
| 21:53.45 | Gnarfoz | not at all, I'm aware of NamePlatesModifier and when it came to be ;) |
| 21:53.51 | Shadowed | oops :< |
| 21:54.05 | Gnarfoz | even used it for a while, but it's too basic for my tastes, but it's also obvious (as you just said) why it's basic |
| 21:54.27 | Gnarfoz | I wish Blizz made them easier to modify, default plates are just hideous :p |
| 21:54.37 | Shadowed | I'd love it if they gave us some sort of secure template to work with |
| 21:54.40 | Shadowed | but as they probably won't! |
| 21:54.47 | Gnarfoz | that'd me most awesome indeed, but also quite unlikely |
| 21:54.55 | Gnarfoz | *be |
| 21:55.02 | Shadowed | all the combatlog based addons are going to be realy inefficient thought |
| 21:55.06 | Shadowed | not much you can do about that |
| 21:55.13 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 21:55.16 | Shadowed | especially since they pretty much all double parse the combatlog |
| 21:55.24 | Gnarfoz | Skada is like 10x as efficient as Acheron is |
| 21:55.37 | Shadowed | Skada doesn't do death reports on last events does it? |
| 21:55.47 | Gnarfoz | which is weird, since Acheron only keeps a sliding window of the combatlog and stops that window when someone dies |
| 21:55.53 | Shadowed | well |
| 21:56.03 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't even real-time display anything |
| 21:56.09 | Shadowed | but it does |
| 21:56.12 | Shadowed | sort of |
| 21:56.14 | Gnarfoz | Acheron? |
| 21:56.28 | Gnarfoz | maybe some hidden option I'm not aware of :D |
| 21:56.34 | Shadowed | as far as I know, all of the combat log reporting mods call CombatLog_OnEvent to get the combat log data to save |
| 21:56.46 | Shadowed | so it's basically like you have two combat log windows running |
| 21:56.50 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 21:56.53 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have *one* running |
| 21:57.00 | Shadowed | okay, then you have one combat log window running :p |
| 21:57.09 | Gnarfoz | and wouldn't it be enough to just listen to CLEU and save everything? |
| 21:57.16 | Shadowed | yes, but it's more complicated |
| 21:57.26 | Shadowed | that's what I did in Expiration, it'll store data and then parses it the first time you ask for it |
| 21:57.30 | Gnarfoz | memory usage is through the roof of course, but that's to be expected and not really an issue with 4gb ram |
| 21:58.04 | Gnarfoz | (although, Skada, again, used only 1/3rd of what Acheron used o_O) |
| 21:58.39 | Gnarfoz | anyway, time to disable pb3 and configure pb4 ;> |
| 21:59.04 | Gnarfoz | Acheron I can try living without, although it's so useful :< |
| 21:59.13 | Gnarfoz | Aloft... not sure. :D |
| 21:59.14 | Shadowed | SUF still uses like 1/3 of the CPU that PB4 does unless you're one of those crazy configurating types :> |
| 21:59.33 | Thunder_Child | or have extra CPU |
| 21:59.56 | Gnarfoz | odds are I'm gonna hit *some* point it can't do that I want it to, but meh ;) |
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| 22:00.28 | Gnarfoz | pb4 is way more efficient than pb3 is already, I'm just freaked out by pb3 using 17% cpu |
| 22:00.37 | Gnarfoz | (Acheron is next with 15%) |
| 22:00.54 | Gnarfoz | after that, only single-digit offenders, not that bad |
| 22:01.05 | foxlit | % of what? |
| 22:01.30 | Gnarfoz | overall % of all cpu cycles used by all addons, I guess |
| 22:01.49 | Gnarfoz | not sure, it's Shadowed's performance monitoring addon :> |
| 22:02.01 | Shadowed | of CPU cycles yes |
| 22:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | makes an addon that does nothing, disables all other addons and watches it eat 100% CPU |
| 22:02.14 | Gnarfoz | (that's the only metric that makes sense ^^) |
| 22:02.24 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: while true do end? |
| 22:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | not /quite/ my point but sure whatever |
| 22:02.59 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 22:03.39 | Gnarfoz | I get what you meant, how would one implement that, though? |
| 22:04.37 | Gnarfoz | ahaha |
| 22:05.17 | Gnarfoz | ok, I missed something, Acheron is the alphabetically first addon that uses major parts of Ace3, so it's probably taking the blame for quite some other addon's stuff :> |
| 22:05.30 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 22:06.03 | Gnarfoz | don't want to do that crazy disembedding stuff again, just to nail these cpu hogs down :< |
| 22:11.05 | Thunder_Child | blizz should really let you track 2 things at a time |
| 22:11.33 | Roofel | track 2 things at a time? |
| 22:11.39 | Roofel | You mean the default tracking thing? |
| 22:11.48 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:11.53 | Roofel | as in Herb/Mining or quests/achievements? :P |
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| 22:12.53 | Thunder_Child | herb/minig/etc. |
| 22:13.20 | foxlit | "Gnarfoz: don't want to do that crazy disembedding stuff again" << Embed everything as "!!!!!Ace"? |
| 22:13.21 | Roofel | Hmm, true |
| 22:13.45 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: err |
| 22:13.48 | Roofel | What normal person cant look for herbs AND mine deposits on the same time? |
| 22:13.57 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: ah, you mean like, install the full Ace2 + Ace3 and rename them? |
| 22:14.03 | Gnarfoz | not the worst idea I've heard today |
| 22:14.16 | Roofel | but then again, WoW has never really had any sense of logic |
| 22:14.18 | Thunder_Child | a lazy one |
| 22:14.44 | Thunder_Child | true, such as placing the riding trainers as afar as possible from major towns |
| 22:14.44 | foxlit | then again, you'd still only be aware of which libraries are being used. |
| 22:16.12 | foxlit | Roofel: the sort of person who randomly detects ore locations ~100 yards away. |
| 22:16.19 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 22:16.24 | ScytheBlade1 | A guy on another IRC network |
| 22:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Just spent 9h alone in an IRC channel talking to himself because of a netsplit |
| 22:17.00 | Roofel | xD True, foxlit :P |
| 22:17.00 | ScytheBlade1 | # |
| 22:17.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 15:59 <@]> well i think this might be a new record |
| 22:17.00 | ScytheBlade1 | # |
| 22:17.04 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:01 <@]> talking to myself for 8h straight |
| 22:17.08 | ScytheBlade1 | gack, bad paste, sorry |
| 22:17.34 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, if we are going to break logic we might as well go for the gold |
| 22:17.50 | foxlit | screw gold. I want titanium. |
| 22:17.58 | Thunder_Child | ~lart foxlit |
| 22:17.58 | purl | declares foxlit a moron |
| 22:18.06 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
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| 22:21.43 | Tem | Opinions on boot enchants: Icewalker vs plain AP |
| 22:22.34 | Tem | wait nevermind |
| 22:22.45 | Tem | I'm WAY over hit cap already |
| 22:22.48 | Tem | I def don't need more |
| 22:23.27 | End | tuskarr's vitality! |
| 22:24.36 | Tem | *glare* |
| 22:24.45 | foxlit | is a proponent of "awesome rating" |
| 22:24.50 | foxlit | It is whatever you need it to be. |
| 22:25.14 | End | +5 awesome |
| 22:26.10 | p3lim | is there some addon that "leeches" information from a damage meter display to display into a simple broker display? |
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| 22:26.33 | p3lim | In that way, leeching the data channels, damage meter displays from others, while not having one |
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| 22:27.24 | foxlit | Why would others broadcast the data? |
| 22:28.10 | p3lim | they dont? |
| 22:28.45 | p3lim | I though damage meters worked together across different people in the raid to get a much better result |
| 22:29.06 | foxlit | I thought the combat log changes made that pointless. |
| 22:29.19 | Cruciformer | I thought that was the old way of doing things? |
| 22:29.36 | End | yeah, I'm not sure any meters still broadcast |
| 22:42.36 | Thunder_Child | "[03:41] [1] <Garyxpxp>: where do u find the amor with the purple name" >.< |
| 22:43.04 | Lopeppeppy | Easter eggs |
| 22:44.47 | AbsolutRayne | blarg |
| 22:45.48 | Lopeppeppy | no really, it's the dye |
| 22:47.46 | p3lim | hm thing is, i could leech my other guildies' damage meters during raid with something like this |
| 22:47.58 | p3lim | (my computer cant handle a damage meter in a raid) |
| 22:48.11 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: http://i44.tinypic.com/118n810.jpg Texture change, y/n |
| 22:48.16 | p3lim | alike cpu throttling, my pc crashes |
| 22:48.42 | Cruciformer | if your computer cant handle a damage meter in raid it wont be able to handle the leeching either becuase if they were to transmit the data 9which they dont) it would be as much bandwidth and data as teh combat log itself |
| 22:49.20 | p3lim | im just looking at a steady number (my dps) updated like 2-5 times a second |
| 22:49.25 | p3lim | not all the info, just the dps |
| 22:50.16 | Cruciformer | why is that number important? If you are dps you dont need a dps meter you need a threat meter, and blizzard provides one of those in game. Your job as dps is to push as hard as you can without pulling agro. |
| 22:50.29 | p3lim | i have a threat meter |
| 22:50.30 | amro | Cruciformer: irrelevant |
| 22:50.41 | p3lim | well, its more a custom tag on my unitframes, but it counts |
| 22:51.48 | p3lim | my threat on my current target vs my current targets target (the one tanking my target) |
| 22:51.58 | p3lim | raw percentage, nothing else |
| 22:55.03 | Thunder_Child | need vs.want Cruciformer |
| 22:55.17 | Cruciformer | *nod* |
| 22:56.20 | Thunder_Child | though to be fair it can be a useful tool to tell you if you are not working at optimum capacity |
| 22:56.20 | Cruciformer | just trying to do my bit to cure the world of meteritis, which as been responsible for more wipes than anything. |
| 22:56.26 | Thunder_Child | if every other xxx class is doing xxx dps and you are doing far less it tells you to take a look at your build/rotation/itemization |
| 22:57.09 | Cruciformer | Thunder_Child: isn't that a raid leader's job though? "User foo, you are under-performing ... you need to pick up your dps or get with your class lead to work on your rotation" |
| 22:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | No, it's every individual's job to police themselves. |
| 22:57.43 | Thunder_Child | Cruciformer, it is not the raid leards job to play daddy |
| 22:57.48 | Thunder_Child | leaders* |
| 22:58.34 | foxlit | it's the raid leader's job to kick you, however. |
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| 23:00.48 | Cruciformer | p3lim: which damage meter did you try? |
| 23:01.18 | p3lim | all of them |
| 23:02.05 | Cruciformer | Im just surprised it crashes your PC. Are you sure the problem isnt elsewhere, like maybe your CPU cooling? |
| 23:02.49 | p3lim | i have 1mb mem and im running win 7 |
| 23:03.02 | p3lim | should explain |
| 23:03.07 | p3lim | gb* |
| 23:03.46 | swaj | Win7 is better than Vista at least. though 1 GB is rough. |
| 23:03.49 | Cruciformer | that is not a problem, win7 is pretty good about its resource utilization, much better than Vista. |
| 23:04.07 | swaj | Cruciformer: his CPU isn't overheating because of damage meters, heh. |
| 23:04.14 | Cruciformer | 1gb will cuse a little more swapping than you would like but not enough to crash your pc unless thre is some other issue. |
| 23:04.52 | p3lim | its only during highly active boss fights it happens, but it does happen |
| 23:05.02 | p3lim | either i get a BSOD or wow just crashes |
| 23:05.03 | Cruciformer | amro: 22:47 < p3lim> (my computer cant handle a damage meter in a raid) ... alike cpu throttling, my pc crashes |
| 23:05.09 | p3lim | because of my memory |
| 23:05.40 | Cruciformer | sorry that was to swaj not amro :P |
| 23:05.45 | p3lim | if I put on CPU throttling wow crashes too, but im pretty sure it has to do with memory too |
| 23:05.50 | swaj | Cruciformer: that in no way indicates a CPU temperature problem. 9 times out of 10, if you can run damage meters, you need more RAM. Most modern damage meters eat ram like candy. |
| 23:06.06 | swaj | take a look at recount |
| 23:06.11 | swaj | recount is a memory whore |
| 23:06.27 | swaj | but it's a lot better than most |
| 23:06.39 | swaj | and you can flush it as often as you want |
| 23:07.50 | bleeter | scrolls back a li'l |
| 23:08.01 | bleeter | I thought it was the raid leader's joib to be a truly annoying jerk? |
| 23:08.20 | bleeter | or is that just my job description? |
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| 23:08.58 | swaj | 50 dkp minus bleeter |
| 23:09.19 | bleeter | pfft I do the website all your dkp are belong to me |
| 23:09.35 | Lopeppeppy | pounces alestane |
| 23:09.42 | bleeter | takes photos |
| 23:09.58 | bleeter | watches Lopeppeppy enrage a la gammaterra |
| 23:09.59 | alestane | gets thoroughly pounced. |
| 23:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke |
| 23:10.01 | bleeter | Gammatera |
| 23:10.04 | bleeter | gamm... oh nm |
| 23:10.14 | alestane | Gammerita. |
| 23:10.21 | bleeter | that's prolly iy |
| 23:10.22 | bleeter | it |
| 23:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 23:10.32 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 23:10.33 | bleeter | ./cower |
| 23:10.42 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Gryphon |
| 23:10.45 | Gryphon | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 23:11.00 | Lopeppeppy | You'd best cower, bleeter, I mauled the last person to take a photo of me (Blizcon '08) |
| 23:11.19 | Pharaunmizz | Do I debug code that's causing my machine to hang, or do I bike home in the rain? |
| 23:11.20 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: you're more than welcome to come visit me, mate. lol |
| 23:11.24 | Gnarfoz | <foxlit> I thought the combat log changes made that pointless. <-- sadly, with 3.0 it was made necessary again, yet, no addon does it, or does it correctly |
| 23:11.36 | bleeter | Pharaunmizz: debug code on your bike home |
| 23:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 23:11.50 | Pharaunmizz | yarr ha on the way here, I saw a guy biking with no helmet |
| 23:11.53 | Pharaunmizz | while texting |
| 23:11.56 | Pharaunmizz | with both hands |
| 23:12.02 | bleeter | nice |
| 23:12.06 | KarlKFI | hardcore |
| 23:12.19 | Pharaunmizz | hardcore -> darwin award, fine line :D |
| 23:12.19 | alestane | I often saw teenagers texting while bicycling in Japan. |
| 23:12.28 | KarlKFI | that's like using Red hat without the man files |
| 23:12.34 | bleeter | 'sif death's a fine line |
| 23:12.37 | alestane | And many people biking with an umbrella in one hand. |
| 23:12.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:12.44 | ScytheBlade1 | @ red hat |
| 23:12.57 | alestane | Although I never saw someone texting while biking with an umbrella. |
| 23:14.12 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/16/funny-pictures-i-rolled-i-still-win/ |
| 23:15.27 | KarlKFI | s/Red hat/Solaris |
| 23:15.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That probably fits better |
| 23:16.13 | KarlKFI | i really hate it when i go to use grep or find and it's not the GNU version... |
| 23:16.43 | Lopeppeppy | Meow, Lunessa |
| 23:16.44 | KarlKFI | YES i want perl regex, don't fuck with me! |
| 23:17.09 | KarlKFI | RAWR |
| 23:17.14 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 23:17.22 | bleeter | KarlKFI: you baby, you don't know pain until you go back in time and all those man pages are in books you have to buy :P |
| 23:17.22 | KarlKFI | all you Lopeppeppy |
| 23:17.35 | KarlKFI | lol, what's a book? |
| 23:17.54 | KarlKFI | i'm gradimicated, i don't need no books! |
| 23:18.07 | bleeter | stuff that you print out 'coz storage space is so freaking expensive :P |
| 23:18.14 | KarlKFI | since when? |
| 23:18.28 | bleeter | until CDROMs became standard |
| 23:18.48 | bleeter | sure, you could get the books on tape but the tape drive was for backups n emergencies, not for man pages |
| 23:19.20 | KarlKFI | oh, right... int hat time machine of yours |
| 23:19.50 | bleeter | yeah that one where sun grep existed before gnu grep :P |
| 23:20.13 | KarlKFI | looks at the 1TB drives that are <$100 now |
| 23:20.47 | KarlKFI | wonders how many e-books would fit on one of those |
| 23:21.04 | Cruciformer | all of them? :) |
| 23:21.17 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/an-offering-to-the-literary-gods/2093 ???? |
| 23:21.23 | KarlKFI | doubt it, i'll ask google, they should knwo by now |
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| 23:29.21 | alestane | Lunessa: You're gonna make it to BlizzCon this year? |
| 23:29.45 | Lunessa | Thanks to Kaelton |
| 23:30.10 | Lunessa | Wow... way to misspell his name |
| 23:30.27 | Lunessa | But yeah, it looks like, as of today, I'm going |
| 23:30.56 | alestane | That's coolness. |
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| 23:32.26 | Cruciformer | god I love indian food |
| 23:32.26 | nicoli_s | you must have bribed him with something major lunessa |
| 23:32.32 | Lunessa | And back of the napkin calculations tell me that driving will be cheaper than flying. |
| 23:32.47 | nicoli_s | its what i do when i want to go on vacation, bribe him to send me there |
| 23:32.53 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: I have the negatives for some very incriminating photos. |
| 23:33.06 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 23:33.33 | Thunder_Child | are you positive? |
| 23:34.41 | KarlKFI | if he is then than those photos will be very attractive |
| 23:35.45 | Thunder_Child | only to certian elements |
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| 23:36.32 | Lunessa | I'm totally full of it. He asked if anyone still needed tickets earlier - and I responded. So we worked out a deal. |
| 23:37.02 | Thunder_Child | kneepads! |
| 23:37.23 | Lunessa | ... HOW DID YOU KNOW? |
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| 23:38.13 | Thunder_Child | well i met kaelten last year... |
| 23:39.28 | Lunessa | So, as of right now, it looks like I'll be driving up there - which means I'll have my Chevy Equinox and room for 4-5 friendly passengers. |
| 23:39.40 | Thunder_Child | from where? |
| 23:39.47 | Lunessa | I'm in Texas |
| 23:40.16 | Lunessa | If anyone wants to ride with me, TO the event better make that no more than 3. |
| 23:40.16 | Lopeppeppy | *grump* |
| 23:40.31 | Thunder_Child | ya, luggage |
| 23:40.41 | Lunessa | But I meant for getting around while we're in Anaheim. |
| 23:41.06 | Lopeppeppy | Most stuff is walk-able. |
| 23:41.11 | Lunessa | Provided anyone is brave enough to ride with me driving. |
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| 23:41.40 | bleeter | hawt |
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| 23:43.45 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out of here for tonight. |
| 23:43.50 | Lunessa | See you all tomorrow. |
| 23:43.55 | Cruciformer | night lunesa |
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