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| 00:09.11 | Shirik | it's too quiet in here |
| 00:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | is asleeping. |
| 00:09.35 | Shirik | pats Lopeppeppy |
| 00:11.45 | |pez| | pokes Shirik |
| 00:12.25 | Shirik | pokes |pez| |
| 00:12.57 | |pez| | that tickled. |
| 00:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik is good at that. |
| 00:14.26 | |pez| | Apparently! |
| 00:14.42 | mikma | shirik: good time to code minion into beta-release state then! |
| 00:14.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm for bed guys, sleep well! |
| 00:14.54 | |pez| | sleep well, Lopeppeppy! |
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| 00:21.52 | Kirov | You know, I'm really surprised there haven't been any VezaxAlarm addons. |
| 00:22.14 | Kirov | The Voidreaver addon was hugely popular, and a VezaxAlarm would be really easy now. |
| 00:22.48 | ArthicEU | Doesn't BigWigs or Bossmods already do it? |
| 00:23.11 | ArthicEU | (I wouldn't know, I'm a tank, I don't get targeted.) |
| 00:25.15 | Syzgyn | Vezax doesnt target anyone with shadow crashes like Void Reaver did |
| 00:25.25 | Syzgyn | in the combat log that is |
| 00:26.06 | Kirov | Syzgyn - Yes he does. |
| 00:26.24 | Kirov | He doesn't target people, but the spell is cast on a unit. |
| 00:26.27 | ArthicEU | I've seen BigWigs raidwarn: "Shadowcrash on <some ranged dude>" |
| 00:26.41 | Syzgyn | Hm |
| 00:26.55 | Kirov | BigWigs and DBM both warm people. The Shadowcrash spell itself has a target. |
| 00:27.28 | Syzgyn | Oh |
| 00:28.38 | Kirov | Ulduar has real map coords you could use instead of the minimap ping hack used by VoidreaverAlarm |
| 00:29.12 | Syzgyn | I thought you couldnt get coords from people in instances still |
| 00:29.26 | ArthicEU | From what I read yesterday in one of these channels is that the coords in Ulduar are a pain. |
| 00:29.36 | Kirov | The big difference between the DBM / BW warnings vs. VoidreaverAlarm style is it would warn _everyone_ in range, not just the specific location. |
| 00:29.58 | Syzgyn | I suppose you could get x,y from the dots on the map? |
| 00:30.25 | Kirov | ArthicEU - You can get their coords, the difficult part is the coords change based on where your player is rather than what map view you're in. |
| 00:30.43 | Kirov | So, if you go to a different room view it'll still show positiions as if you're in the room you're in. |
| 00:30.59 | Syzgyn | I've seen that, yea |
| 00:31.05 | Kirov | However, Vezax's room is self contained |
| 00:33.01 | Syzgyn | Does anyone know what the mod is in this screenshot in chat that displays what the guy died to? http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/may/premoheroiculduar.jpg |
| 00:38.21 | Zhinjio | I seem to recall something called killshot that did that, but I haven't tried it out in a long long time. |
| 00:38.24 | Zhinjio | don't know if it still exists |
| 00:44.57 | Stanzilla | Syzgyn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13607-1.0.1.html something like that? |
| 00:45.51 | Syzgyn | Same kinda thing yea, I like that the on in the pic has more than the last hit though |
| 00:47.17 | Kirov | anyone know if more than one person can have Mark of the Faceless at the same time? |
| 00:48.41 | Syzgyn | Not that I'm aware of |
| 00:58.42 | Torhal | Cairenn: I have a complaint. Your site is far too popular. Reading and/or skipping posts is eating up my life. Please fix. |
| 00:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Torhal: she can ban you, it'd fix the problem nicely |
| 00:59.18 | Torhal | ScytheBlade1: Hmm. You have a point. |
| 00:59.19 | Cairenn | Torhal: fixed |
| 00:59.23 | Torhal | Cairenn: LOL |
| 00:59.44 | Torhal | No reason was specified. <-- Full of win. |
| 00:59.49 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 00:59.58 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: you're too slow, I already had the ban in place |
| 01:00.24 | mikma | YEY! |
| 01:00.31 | mikma | cairenn banned torhal! |
| 01:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: at the moment I'm laying on my bed with the lights out and the music playing, relaxing -- that does not surprise me ;) |
| 01:00.40 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:00.54 | Torhal | So now, I have another problem. Code, or play WoW? |
| 01:00.59 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 01:01.47 | mikma | torhal: code a ultimate showdown for LQTC! |
| 01:02.00 | Torhal | mikma: Explain, please. |
| 01:02.42 | mikma | torhal: addon to show the maximum potential of the library |
| 01:02.48 | Torhal | Oh |
| 01:03.25 | Torhal | mikma: I dunno about _maximum_ potential, but you could look at the alt-tradeskills menu in ARL. :) |
| 01:03.31 | mikma | one of the coolest libs after ldb |
| 01:03.37 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:03.46 | mikma | and when combined! |
| 01:03.52 | mikma | win.. |
| 01:04.11 | Wobin | Captain Planet? |
| 01:08.03 | mikma | wobin: hai! did you see that LQT has now tooltip:AddSeparator() ? =D |
| 01:08.07 | Kirov | http://www.transformerland.com/store/reference_images/837.jpg |
| 01:08.26 | Wobin | hehe, something you had a hand in, Mr Mikma? |
| 01:08.29 | Torhal | mikma: I added SetColumnColor() and SetLineColor() last night, as well. |
| 01:09.25 | mikma | ooh |
| 01:09.31 | mikma | hot stuff |
| 01:10.10 | mikma | wobin: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_052209_171907.jpg |
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| 01:24.12 | mikma | ~awol |
| 01:24.13 | purl | awol is, like, Absent WithOut Leave; a military term. |
| 01:26.35 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wegif.com/gifs/orrow/6354/ <--awesome |
| 01:28.04 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - a lightning strike filmed at 1000fps |
| 01:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | You know Minion is picking up steam (despite not being released...) when the board has twice the viewers as any other board right now |
| 01:34.08 | Shirik | o.O |
| 01:36.09 | kd3 | pokes shirik from the other side of the continent |
| 01:36.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ah, internets |
| 01:38.42 | haste | NightHawkTheSane: needs more FPS |
| 01:38.48 | Shirik | pokes kd3 o.o |
| 01:40.09 | kd3 | wait, wait... there are people in washington? |
| 01:40.18 | mikma | lol what a joke |
| 01:40.21 | Shirik | at least me :P |
| 01:40.38 | kd3 | meh, at least the state exists... wyoming on the other hand is still a myth |
| 01:41.24 | ScytheBlade1 | true fact |
| 01:41.27 | Shirik | wyoming only exists because no other state wanted to claim that area |
| 01:41.29 | ScytheBlade1 | wyoming has more cattle than people |
| 01:42.01 | ScytheBlade1 | wait, that may be idaho |
| 01:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the two |
| 01:44.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it's wyoming |
| 01:45.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you're in washington state? |
| 01:46.18 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:46.44 | Shirik | www.insitu.com |
| 01:48.49 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, that's out in the middle of nowheresville :p |
| 01:49.00 | Shirik | yes it is :P |
| 01:49.05 | Shirik | but it's fairly close to portland |
| 01:49.23 | NightHawkTheSane | true, its like what, an hourish drive away? not bad |
| 01:50.33 | Shirik | yeah about an hour |
| 01:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | you're not far away from a friend of mine |
| 01:50.38 | ScytheBlade1 | (who attends reed) |
| 01:51.22 | Adys | can someone on xp/vista who has 2 spare minutes open regedit for me? |
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| 01:52.50 | mikma | no, bwhahaahahaaa |
| 01:53.59 | bleetah | Zootfizzle: just in case your entire office missed it.. here's a good chuckle.. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17367768616&sid=1 |
| 01:54.57 | bleetah | TEH HORRORS! That's almost 1MB! |
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| 01:55.59 | Shirik | anyway, NightHawkTheSane, it's kinda funny really |
| 01:56.15 | Shirik | some people refer to us as a "cancer" of sorts, because if you came into the town you would have no idea we're there |
| 01:56.25 | Shirik | the buildings don't stand out in any way, and it's a small town |
| 01:56.44 | Shirik | but we've just taken over various small buildings, like this one http://www.yakimaherald.com/galleries/2451/photos/6 |
| 01:56.48 | Shirik | all over the place |
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| 01:57.13 | Shirik | only really 2 "large" buildings in the company |
| 01:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | thats pretty cool, kinda low impact. |
| 01:58.22 | Shirik | it works out really well for the community |
| 01:58.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i imagine |
| 01:58.30 | Shirik | the company essentially rents out homes that have been for sale for a while |
| 01:58.38 | Shirik | and then gives them back fully renovated, etc. |
| 01:59.04 | NightHawkTheSane | good deal |
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| 02:10.26 | Kirov | bleetah - that guy needs to be pointed at .kkrieger or something. |
| 02:11.01 | Kirov | That'll make his mind melt when he tries to explain to his friend how this 96kb game uses 3 gigs. |
| 02:20.57 | Kaso | Im trying to work out whats going on with that 640k mem usage thread |
| 02:21.16 | Kaso | is he complaining that wow.exe has increased in size? |
| 02:21.38 | ScytheBlade1 | he be TROLLIN |
| 02:21.55 | Kirov | Neither the launcher exe or the wow exe are 640k |
| 02:22.08 | Kirov | They're both a lot larger, and have been for a while. |
| 02:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | s/ a while/ever/ |
| 02:22.36 | Kirov | aye |
| 02:22.52 | Kirov | Well, they have been for as long as they've been public. :) |
| 02:23.29 | Kaso | so is he saying that the memory usage when the program is running is 640MB? |
| 02:23.43 | Kirov | Yes |
| 02:23.58 | Kaso | I'd rather wow be using my ram up caching shit rather than constantly having to fetch shit from the hard drive |
| 02:24.09 | Kirov | My guess is he's running the game with his textures cranked up too. |
| 02:25.12 | Kirov | I'm running the game with everything maxed out and I'm using 600MB |
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| 02:25.40 | Kirov | That's including the 40 megs of addons I run |
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| 02:26.29 | alestane | I have a pretty marginal machine, haven't seen any performance impact lately. |
| 02:26.43 | Kaso | The whole addon community (that is the users not the developers mostly) have massive miss-conceptions when it comes to memory usage, i presume that is transfering over to his thinking about the entire wow in general |
| 02:27.43 | Kirov | I recently made an addon that chews up about 5MB a second in memory. |
| 02:28.09 | Kirov | Multiple calls to date("*t") every second. |
| 02:28.29 | Trela | WoW itself is fairly memory hungry. Dalaran has been stated by the developers to require 3GBs RAM to comfortably load with out FPS loss. |
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| 02:28.32 | Kirov | It runs on my fiancee's beast of a machine and she doesn't notice it. |
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| 02:30.39 | Kaso | They should proide a 64bit binary to allow those of us with stupid amounts of ram to let wow ballon and use it |
| 02:30.59 | dardack | i haven't taken the 64bit os plunge yet myself |
| 02:31.17 | Kirov | I'm running 64 bit on my main machine now |
| 02:31.41 | Iriel | I am too, but TBH the only noticable difference is that the steam Plants vs Zombies client crashes |
| 02:31.54 | dardack | i've been debating taking the 64 ubuntu plunge, but eh |
| 02:32.00 | Kirov | We have a program at work that requires 64 bit to run, but only because they haven't bothered to optimize it yet. |
| 02:32.35 | Iriel | (and OSX has 64 bit support too, so I guess i've been using 64 bit OS for a while, not much in OSX land actually runs in 64 bit mode tho0 |
| 02:35.47 | Arrowmaster | Kaso: theres a flag they could just set that would allow it to use over 2gb of ram on 64bit OSs without actually being a 64bit app |
| 02:36.09 | Kaso | IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE? |
| 02:36.16 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 02:36.18 | Kaso | yah but only up to 4gb on 64bit |
| 02:36.23 | Kaso | (3gb on 32bit) |
| 02:36.55 | dardack | don't know why it needs so much memory tho |
| 02:37.06 | Arrowmaster | caching |
| 02:37.14 | Arrowmaster | all those textures and models |
| 02:37.32 | dardack | oh right |
| 02:37.40 | dardack | WOOT just got that damn turtle |
| 02:37.45 | Kaso | each seperate peice of gear and charater that comes into your view area gets its model/texture cached etc |
| 02:38.31 | dardack | i know it wouldn't be as fast, but couldn't you specify like a pagefile on the harddrive to better facilitate that |
| 02:38.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:39.15 | Arrowmaster | they must be in ram while they are viewable |
| 02:39.54 | dardack | oh |
| 02:39.56 | Iriel | I'm not sure i'd call it 'caching' if they're just loaded to be used |
| 02:40.10 | Iriel | caching typically means hanging onto them when they're NOT in use so they dont have to be loaded again |
| 02:40.13 | dardack | yea i think that's what threw me off |
| 02:40.23 | dardack | that's why my mem baloons in dalaran |
| 02:40.31 | Arrowmaster | well its probably also keeping around textures and models that arent being used still |
| 02:40.41 | Kaso | Well are the immedaitely un-used things removed from memory? otherwise i guess you can call it caching to a degree |
| 02:40.44 | Iriel | Well, dal is very complex, and full of people |
| 02:41.25 | dardack | i sometimes run /console gxrestart after leaving dal after being in there for awhile, tend to find it cleans up a bunch of mem |
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| 02:46.41 | Kirov | dal is complex, and small |
| 02:49.39 | Iriel | and full of people wearing very different clothes |
| 02:50.02 | dardack | aywn |
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| 02:51.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah shatt was large and everybody just wore arena gear |
| 02:51.24 | Thunder_Child | but wow wont take more than 1.3GB of ram from me even if i have extra |
| 02:52.20 | Iriel | shatt had far less 'fine detail' too |
| 02:55.13 | Kirov | It used to be that every NPC had a unique set of textures, even if they looked like they were just wearing some random gear or even gear sets. |
| 02:55.17 | Kirov | I don't know if they still do that |
| 02:56.30 | Arrowmaster | they never did that if the npc was of a playable race |
| 02:57.08 | Arrowmaster | remember when they broke all the bloodelf animations in 1.x when they were converting the unique models to all use the bloodelf base model + gear |
| 02:59.01 | Kirov | Arrowmaster - all the original dwarf NPCs of Ironforge have unique texture sets, made from existing gear but "flattened" |
| 02:59.57 | Kirov | helms / shoulders not included |
| 03:02.13 | Shadowed | shattrath was pretty plain if you think about it |
| 03:02.21 | Kraps | a lot of emphasis is put on arthas' dead horse... |
| 03:04.42 | Thunder_Child | no Shirik, he is not |
| 03:04.48 | dardack | anyone know with oUF how to on the health text to do xx/maxhealth, right now i only have xx showing |
| 03:06.07 | |Jelly| | UnitHealthMax() ? :P |
| 03:08.14 | haste | dardack: do you use tagps? |
| 03:15.52 | dardack | yes haste |
| 03:15.56 | dardack | i believe so |
| 03:15.58 | dardack | hang on opening |
| 03:16.23 | Primer | Is this: /script UIErrorsFrame:UnregisterEvent("UI_ERROR_MESSAGE") |
| 03:16.33 | Primer | Still the only way to suppress text messages in macros? |
| 03:16.43 | Primer | like, "Item not ready"? |
| 03:17.09 | Arrowmaster | just use errormonster |
| 03:17.42 | dardack | not for Health it looks like |
| 03:18.15 | haste | dardack: then you have to use UnitHealthMax :) |
| 03:20.26 | dardack | hmmm mok |
| 03:21.40 | dardack | what does SetFontString do exactly/ |
| 03:23.47 | haste | it adds a fontstring to a button afaik |
| 03:38.32 | dardack | ok i think i found where it's all put in, testing |
| 03:40.41 | Thunder_Child | "[08:39] [1] <Sheikah>: LF sum1 to help me lvl to 55 so i can finally use DK" massive fail |
| 03:41.32 | dardack | just wow |
| 03:45.25 | Taroven | imo, there needs to be a VERY LONG AND HARD level 80 quest to access DKs... |
| 03:45.34 | Taroven | But that's just me. |
| 03:46.53 | Taroven | I keep seeing level 70ish dks asking how to dual wield, or what dark command does... |
| 03:46.55 | Thunder_Child | me to, but only because it would have kept the flood of DK's down |
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| 04:01.44 | Kraps | hmm, they dont have the part in the book where 5 random strangers help arthas cull stratholme... |
| 04:01.47 | Kraps | :p |
| 04:02.44 | Tem | Anyone here killed General Hard Mode on either difficulty? |
| 04:03.33 | Zootfizzle | General Hard Mode? |
| 04:03.39 | Zootfizzle | Sounds like the designers got lazy on NPC naming |
| 04:03.47 | Zootfizzle | scribbles furiously |
| 04:04.24 | End | giggles. |
| 04:08.39 | Tem | General Vezax |
| 04:08.40 | Tem | Hard mode |
| 04:09.33 | Tem | we're getting shadow crash cast on people in melee range |
| 04:09.40 | Tem | while the saronite animus is alive |
| 04:09.52 | Tem | and that's completely raping our ability to do hard mode |
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| 04:11.25 | Zootfizzle | Try switching to all Draenei melee |
| 04:11.31 | Zootfizzle | I know an enhancement shaman who would like to raid |
| 04:11.50 | Zootfizzle | He's going through guild dramaz |
| 04:11.56 | Zootfizzle | :P |
| 04:11.59 | Kraps | whats the name of the prophet guy? |
| 04:12.28 | Ackis | Zootfizzle: just wait til you see General Super Hard Mode |
| 04:12.29 | Kraps | who said "move to kalimdor" |
| 04:12.38 | Zootfizzle | Medivh? |
| 04:12.38 | Ackis | Kraps: medihv? |
| 04:12.47 | Ackis | believe zoot over me imo |
| 04:12.48 | Kraps | k |
| 04:13.07 | Kraps | they dont say his name in the book |
| 04:13.19 | Ackis | l2war3 |
| 04:13.21 | Zootfizzle | It's supposed to be mysterious at that point |
| 04:13.30 | Ackis | (what book?) |
| 04:13.36 | Zootfizzle | I'm sure he's talking about the Arthas book |
| 04:13.39 | Ackis | ah |
| 04:13.42 | Kraps | yes |
| 04:13.42 | Ackis | I haven't read it yet |
| 04:13.48 | Zootfizzle | Niether have I, believe it or not :) |
| 04:13.48 | Ackis | I has an autographed copy though |
| 04:13.57 | Ackis | :O |
| 04:14.00 | Ackis | ~lart Zootfizzle |
| 04:14.00 | purl | eats Zootfizzle and falls over dead |
| 04:14.05 | Zootfizzle | YES! |
| 04:14.15 | Zootfizzle | <-- botkiller |
| 04:14.19 | Ackis | hehe |
| 04:14.24 | Zootfizzle | escapes from the inside with gnomish powers |
| 04:14.50 | Ackis | I would say I'd use my troll powers on you, but well we don't have any :( |
| 04:15.05 | Zootfizzle | If you want, I could practically kill you, then you could try and beat me. |
| 04:15.19 | Ackis | lol |
| 04:15.30 | Ackis | i'll pass |
| 04:15.37 | Ackis | sucking this cup to my chin sounds like more fun |
| 04:15.40 | Zootfizzle | Okay, just thought I'd offer as a friend :) |
| 04:15.46 | Ackis | aww gosh thanks |
| 04:15.53 | Zootfizzle | I know some people want Berserking to be useful |
| 04:16.07 | Zootfizzle | As a faithful member of the Alliance, and a Blizzard employee, I do what I can |
| 04:16.26 | Ackis | you nerfed the only usefullness of it when you took away its ability to work on the hearth stone lol |
| 04:16.52 | Ackis | I could hearth out of wipes a half a second earlier :P |
| 04:16.53 | Zyndrome | 06:04.45 ( +Tem ) we're getting shadow crash cast on people in melee range |
| 04:16.56 | Kraps | so, would you cull strat or wait for the kirin tor to have an emergency meeting? |
| 04:17.01 | Zyndrome | I guess you're doing 10-man |
| 04:17.17 | Zootfizzle | Kirin Tor. |
| 04:17.43 | Ackis | ohh these pain killers are starting to wrokkk |
| 04:17.51 | Zootfizzle | The people in strat would have died and been undead had he killed them or not, Arthas wasn't logical. If only gnomes were more interested in politics. |
| 04:18.11 | Ackis | imo virtual families is the next big came |
| 04:18.19 | Ackis | muy peeps are trying to make a baby right now |
| 04:18.22 | Ackis | doing the baby dance |
| 04:18.25 | Kraps | Zootfizzle: er, what would they do? |
| 04:18.49 | Zyndrome | Tem , you need to have at least 2 people at shadow crash range, or else he will cast on melee, that's the problem |
| 04:20.07 | Kraps | Zootfizzle: of course he wasnt logical, his homeland was being destroyed |
| 04:20.43 | Zootfizzle | Kraps: We haven't killed off all the leper gnomes |
| 04:20.58 | Kraps | hrm |
| 04:21.33 | Ackis | they are good eatin' |
| 04:21.41 | Ackis | om nom noms a leper gnome |
| 04:21.58 | Ackis | anyways the world is going to come to an end |
| 04:22.08 | Ackis | someone submitted a fan update of chuck norris facts in spanish |
| 04:22.13 | Spellbinder | 2012 |
| 04:22.17 | Ackis | nope |
| 04:22.19 | Ackis | soon |
| 04:22.20 | Kraps | oh noes!!!!111!!1 |
| 04:22.31 | Zootfizzle | enlists an intrepid dwarf to collect troll feces to determine the effects of their digestive systems' chemicals on gnomish leprosy |
| 04:22.46 | Ackis | lol |
| 04:22.51 | Ackis | is off to bed |
| 04:22.58 | Ackis | g'night sweet prince(s) |
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| 04:32.01 | Kraps | night |
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| 04:49.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke |
| 04:50.30 | Gnarfoz | * Zootfizzle enlists an intrepid dwarf to collect troll feces to determine the effects of their digestive systems' chemicals on gnomish leprosy <-- now we know where those quests come from |
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| 04:52.36 | Zootfizzle | You think I come up with those quests? I'm just a utilitarian, I know people are willing to do that... shit. |
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| 04:55.04 | Taroven | SO... BORED. |
| 04:55.15 | ronghail_ | please make all collection quest items lootable by party. it is taking me 12 hours per level to get 75 of this low drop rate stuff |
| 04:56.28 | Taroven | It'd be a little odd to have five people loot a wolf's head off a single wolf, though. =P |
| 04:56.46 | ronghail_ | some quests allow it though, weird yes |
| 04:56.47 | kd3 | meh, it'd balance out the wolves that don't have spleens or tails |
| 04:56.52 | kd3 | >.> |
| 04:57.03 | Taroven | But hey, no less odd than half the animal population of the Barrens lacking hooves/fangs/heads. |
| 04:59.31 | ronghail_ | I got 5 druids to 72 then burned out on collections, then started a mixed team, and I am burning out at 75. grizzly hills is full of these quests |
| 05:01.27 | Tem | fuckin A! |
| 05:01.33 | Tem | 5% General Hardmode |
| 05:01.39 | Tem | and people have to leave |
| 05:03.56 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Zootfizzle |
| 05:03.56 | purl | puts Zootfizzle into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of Zootfizzle's hair of |
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| 05:23.49 | msou| | top of the morning lads |
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| 05:36.54 | Nechckn_AFK | Hola! |
| 05:40.17 | jaxdahl | Tem, ouch. you kill the animus then wiped to general at 5%? |
| 05:40.25 | Tem | yep |
| 05:40.33 | jaxdahl | painful |
| 05:40.36 | Tem | healers OOM |
| 05:40.38 | Tem | so I died |
| 05:40.40 | jaxdahl | you 2 healing and stationary tanking? |
| 05:40.45 | Tem | yep 2 healing |
| 05:40.59 | jaxdahl | how much mana when the animus spawns? |
| 05:41.01 | Tem | and IBF on the surges |
| 05:41.04 | msou| | you doing naxx or ulduar? |
| 05:41.10 | Tem | ~40% |
| 05:41.10 | purl | 0.4 |
| 05:41.16 | Tem | ... |
| 05:41.30 | jaxdahl | our paladin had 5-8k and druid had 15-16k |
| 05:41.34 | Tem | that attempt we were slow to kill it |
| 05:41.40 | jaxdahl | druid abuses the shadow crashes |
| 05:41.42 | msou| | what instance |
| 05:41.43 | Tem | so the aoe damage got a little out of hand |
| 05:41.49 | jaxdahl | msou|, ulduar, vezax |
| 05:41.59 | Tem | how do you abuse shadow crash as a druid? |
| 05:42.00 | msou| | oh I see. "never" been there myself |
| 05:42.11 | jaxdahl | cheaper HoTs |
| 05:42.22 | jaxdahl | lifebloom still hits for full i believe |
| 05:42.25 | jaxdahl | something like that |
| 05:42.28 | msou| | focusing on gear now :/ |
| 05:42.28 | Tem | wow |
| 05:42.31 | Tem | that's amazingly hax |
| 05:42.38 | msou| | heroics? |
| 05:42.39 | Tem | holy pally/resto shaman |
| 05:42.46 | jaxdahl | that sucks :D |
| 05:42.52 | msou| | -s |
| 05:42.58 | jaxdahl | well, we did it w/warrior tank and no shaman |
| 05:43.04 | jaxdahl | shaman makes animus burn easier |
| 05:43.09 | Tem | aye |
| 05:43.13 | Tem | I blood tanked |
| 05:43.25 | jaxdahl | do you abuse death strike |
| 05:43.31 | Tem | VERY |
| 05:43.44 | Tem | I did 200k healing on that pull |
| 05:43.59 | Tem | VB + death pact every 2 minutes |
| 05:44.02 | jaxdahl | that's a nice chunk |
| 05:44.27 | Tem | our real healers did 350k |
| 05:44.45 | jaxdahl | we had 2 ret and 1 holy, all on vexax |
| 05:44.50 | msou| | are you doing it on heroic mode? |
| 05:44.52 | jaxdahl | mage (me), hunter and druid at range |
| 05:45.01 | jaxdahl | he's on 10 man |
| 05:45.05 | msou| | ohh |
| 05:45.05 | jaxdahl | since he mentioned 2 healing |
| 05:45.29 | msou| | I'm on the "learning" process now =) |
| 05:45.37 | jaxdahl | it's nice for the holy paladin since he doesn't have to move to avoid shadow crashes |
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| 05:46.24 | Tem | jaxdahl, since when are you a mage? |
| 05:46.29 | Tem | I thought you were a blood tank? |
| 05:46.42 | jaxdahl | i have an unholy DK |
| 05:47.12 | msou| | what's your name so I can check your talent tree and compare it to mine |
| 05:47.14 | jaxdahl | the mage is my alt |
| 05:47.19 | jaxdahl | msou|, which char |
| 05:47.23 | msou| | the dk |
| 05:47.37 | jaxdahl | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Ferrante |
| 05:47.43 | jaxdahl | here's the mage http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel%27Thuzad&n=Jaxenite |
| 05:48.45 | msou| | yours looks slitly diff from mine |
| 05:49.02 | msou| | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Aammaa |
| 05:49.54 | msou| | hmmm |
| 05:50.00 | msou| | you tanking with your dk? |
| 05:50.27 | msou| | isn't it for tankers he chest/neck etc |
| 05:51.19 | msou| | actually everything is a tanking gear |
| 05:51.59 | jaxdahl | it should be rather obvious it's a tank yes |
| 05:52.20 | msou| | your talent tree isn't =) |
| 05:52.45 | jaxdahl | were you looking at my secondary tree |
| 05:52.47 | msou| | you could enlighten me, I know frost is for tankers |
| 05:52.49 | jaxdahl | or my primary |
| 05:53.02 | jaxdahl | i shall enlighten you |
| 05:53.05 | msou| | 56 unholy, 5 frost, 10 blood |
| 05:53.08 | jaxdahl | every tree can be dps or tank |
| 05:53.14 | jaxdahl | i am an unholy tank |
| 05:53.18 | msou| | I see |
| 05:53.22 | jaxdahl | blood tanks exist |
| 05:53.33 | msou| | I know unholy is for full dps |
| 05:53.44 | jaxdahl | blood and frost are dps trees too |
| 05:53.53 | msou| | in most cases, blood that is in between dps/tanking/ frost full tank |
| 05:54.55 | msou| | hmm... will get that dualspec by the weekend... not sure if I should do it with the dk or with my next char. tauren hunter/warrior dunno |
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| 06:48.38 | Shirik | how we doin tonight guys |
| 06:48.43 | Shirik | be kickin it? |
| 06:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | kicks it |
| 06:50.07 | Shirik | let's kick it old school yo |
| 06:51.05 | msou| | I knew about naxx resetting time yesterday |
| 06:51.17 | msou| | weekly raid |
| 06:51.28 | msou| | will take ages to complete your set |
| 06:53.22 | NightHawkTheSane | not really |
| 06:53.25 | Thunder_Child | kicks Shirik |
| 06:53.32 | Shirik | :( |
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| 07:04.03 | msou| | NightHawkTheSane: what do you mean |
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| 07:10.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean,it doesn't take ages to assemble a full set of gear from naxx. |
| 07:10.45 | NightHawkTheSane | unless you have terrible luck with drops, a few weeks at best. |
| 07:14.31 | Zhinjio | Heya Shirik! |
| 07:14.40 | Zhinjio | Looking forward to minion beta. |
| 07:15.01 | End | are you mocking him? |
| 07:15.39 | msou| | NightHawkTheSane: oh I see |
| 07:16.12 | Shirik | End: Why would that be mocking? |
| 07:16.20 | msou| | NightHawkTheSane: doing heroics mainly atm, we're very small group I think 4 80s and we can get maybe 10 for raid |
| 07:16.57 | msou| | NightHawkTheSane: neverbeen into naxx, will once with the guy who wants to recruit me to do raids mainly.. I get offers but my problem is I don't like leaving guild/clan |
| 07:17.23 | End | Shirik: so, when's minion coming out? |
| 07:17.32 | Shirik | Oh I dunno |
| 07:17.34 | msou| | even if I get wiped 5 times cause of one.. I rather stay and learn/suggest =) |
| 07:17.42 | Shirik | shouldn't be more than a few days |
| 07:17.45 | Zhinjio | not at all. |
| 07:17.57 | Zhinjio | I'm very much looking forward to it. |
| 07:18.31 | Shirik | I mean if things go REALLY bad it could take a week or two |
| 07:18.49 | Shirik | or I could drop dead right now from a heart attack |
| 07:18.49 | Shirik | then it might take a while |
| 07:20.00 | Zhinjio | The Votes are in! Noone wants the latter option. |
| 07:20.14 | Shirik | :P |
| 07:21.13 | Shirik | you know what I really need |
| 07:21.17 | Shirik | one of my work computers to work on here |
| 07:21.27 | Shirik | Man I could get so much done |
| 07:21.41 | Shirik | I wonder how quickly this would compile on that machine |
| 07:23.14 | Shirik | goes to get a tootsie pop |
| 07:26.21 | Shirik | wtf? blink gives you a buff? |
| 07:26.25 | Shirik | "Blinking"? |
| 07:32.01 | Wobin | ohnoes |
| 07:32.06 | Wobin | bus number for minion is 1 =( |
| 07:32.12 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:32.35 | Wobin | Bus Number :Number of people who have to go under a bus before the project fails. |
| 07:33.30 | Shirik | ah |
| 07:33.31 | Shirik | hah |
| 07:41.32 | Fisker- | so Shirik |
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| 07:45.34 | bleetah | kd3: when bnet auth comes up tomorrow, I'll check it to see if it's still sending our names to us in plaintext |
| 07:45.44 | bleetah | kd3: I verified this afternoon that this behaviour is still there |
| 07:45.50 | Shirik | so Fisker- |
| 07:45.55 | Shirik | Isaw you got ++ed today |
| 07:45.57 | Shirik | I loled |
| 07:51.09 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:51.15 | Fisker- | how's the minion coming eh? |
| 07:51.19 | Torhal | Fisker-: ++ |
| 07:51.28 | Fisker- | owned Torhal |
| 07:51.53 | Fisker- | http://i39.tinypic.com/hv8f2r.jpg |
| 07:52.14 | Shirik | Fisker-: Shouldn't be more than a week away I think |
| 07:53.05 | Fisker- | I AM NOT TROLLING |
| 07:53.07 | Fisker- | I'M BOXXY |
| 07:54.59 | Fisker- | http://i39.tinypic.com/hv8f2r.jpg <-cool amirite? :3 |
| 07:56.21 | Cairenn | guys - we aren't posting the news on the site until after we've gotten some sleep, but we're willing to let you guys know now, just please keep it in here until we post |
| 07:56.24 | Cairenn | http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
| 07:56.54 | Thunder_Child | so...lies Shirik? |
| 07:57.03 | Shirik | When did I lie! |
| 07:57.13 | Torhal | Cairenn: Thankye. Now I can play with something other than LibQTip. |
| 07:57.13 | Thunder_Child | you are correct |
| 07:57.17 | Thunder_Child | misdirection |
| 07:57.31 | Cairenn | we /almost/ got it done last night |
| 07:57.43 | Fisker- | i hate apps that are named "launch.jnlp" |
| 07:58.26 | Torhal | Ugh |
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| 07:58.28 | Torhal | I have Java |
| 07:58.33 | Torhal | The Web site says I don't |
| 07:58.40 | Torhal | scratches his head. |
| 07:58.49 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, does amd64 = intel? |
| 07:58.58 | Shirik | 64-bit |
| 07:59.00 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:59.08 | Thunder_Child | fail intel |
| 07:59.09 | Shirik | trust the installer :) |
| 07:59.48 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, where do you want bugs? |
| 07:59.54 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 07:59.56 | Thunder_Child | i founded it |
| 07:59.59 | Shirik | http://www.mmoui.com/bugs |
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| 08:00.30 | Fisker- | oh this is bad Shirik |
| 08:00.32 | Fisker- | baaaaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 08:00.50 | Cairenn | Fisker-: what? |
| 08:01.18 | Fisker- | can select multiple items :P |
| 08:01.35 | Shirik | hm? |
| 08:01.44 | Fisker- | can't* |
| 08:01.59 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, anywhere to post suggestions? |
| 08:02.06 | Shirik | same place |
| 08:02.14 | Shirik | or forums |
| 08:02.49 | Cairenn | forums will give away the fact that it's live :p |
| 08:02.55 | Thunder_Child | granted you dont have a cat for the installer :( |
| 08:03.07 | Torhal | D"oh |
| 08:03.26 | Thunder_Child | kicks Shirik again |
| 08:03.27 | Torhal | Not only does the minion site think I don't have java, but the Java site thinks I'm on Windows. |
| 08:03.31 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 08:05.07 | Kalroth | Torhal: it's a sign |
| 08:05.09 | Shirik | Torhal: You can still download it yes? |
| 08:05.13 | Kalroth | reinstall time! |
| 08:05.31 | Fisker- | but you are Torhal |
| 08:05.35 | Fisker- | pulls a gun |
| 08:06.02 | Torhal | Shirik: The place where it says "Download Minion" is faded out and doesn't interact with the moude |
| 08:06.11 | Kalroth | the site should show a big "WINDOWS LOSERS ONLY, MAC TOSSERS ARE TOO DUMB TO USE THIS!" warning above the download link |
| 08:06.20 | Torhal | Kalroth: I'm on Linux :P |
| 08:06.33 | Cairenn | yes, it does that on purpose, Torhal |
| 08:06.36 | Thunder_Child | Torhal, noscript active? |
| 08:06.39 | Fisker- | agreed Kalroth |
| 08:06.52 | Kalroth | Mac = Unix ~= Linux, so close enough! |
| 08:07.07 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Not blocking anything on that page |
| 08:07.33 | Thunder_Child | Torhal, try another browser? |
| 08:07.46 | Kalroth | lynx! |
| 08:08.10 | Shirik | Torhal: We'll adjust it so there's a way to download anyway |
| 08:08.17 | Shirik | sorry |
| 08:08.58 | Kalroth | BUG: the client refuses to start from my Wii browser |
| 08:09.18 | Shirik | ... |
| 08:09.31 | Torhal | .. |
| 08:09.47 | End | . |
| 08:09.53 | Cairenn | smacks Kalroth |
| 08:09.59 | Kalroth | cries. |
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| 08:10.07 | End | Cairenn: abuse! |
| 08:10.08 | Shirik | stop crying you liked it |
| 08:10.29 | Kalroth | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090329040111AAlx7sI |
| 08:10.47 | MentalPower | Shirik: methinks you need a better default path for a mac-based install |
| 08:11.05 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.16 | Shirik | you said desktop! |
| 08:11.18 | MentalPower | for me its blank |
| 08:11.30 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: you never told me how the process was going |
| 08:11.32 | jnwhiteh | its blank in the app tho |
| 08:11.50 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.53 | Shirik | ok so /Applications? |
| 08:12.14 | Shirik | like /Applications/MMOUI Minion/? |
| 08:12.14 | MentalPower | ./Applications is "better" |
| 08:13.21 | MentalPower | well if I select just /apps the installer puts the app bundle there as expected |
| 08:13.48 | Shirik | I have no idea what that means, but yay |
| 08:13.49 | Shirik | I think |
| 08:13.49 | MentalPower | does the SDK create a folder for itself or is it a bunch of files? |
| 08:14.16 | Shirik | It should ask you where to put it mid-install |
| 08:14.27 | MentalPower | I know it just did |
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| 08:14.39 | Shirik | ok it's just a bunch of files |
| 08:14.53 | MentalPower | yay, filenotfoundexception! |
| 08:15.01 | Thunder_Child | ....rclicking 'get info' on acp goes to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9092.html |
| 08:15.07 | MentalPower | can't find sdk-install.zip |
| 08:15.44 | End | Shirik: you can't give it a better default for the WoW directory? |
| 08:15.50 | End | *cough* registry |
| 08:16.04 | Shirik | Boy |
| 08:16.20 | Shirik | Find me a non-native solution to look up the path from the registry |
| 08:16.40 | End | well, first.... |
| 08:16.45 | End | you open the hive file |
| 08:16.45 | MentalPower | there's seriously no java-only way to query the registry? |
| 08:16.47 | Arrowmaster | only windows has a registry so wouldnt that always be native? |
| 08:16.56 | Shirik | that's my point Arrowmaster :P |
| 08:17.03 | Shirik | Java doesn't know anything about the registry |
| 08:17.22 | End | that's a good point, although I'm sure there's...some way... |
| 08:17.24 | MentalPower | I'd think sun would be nice enough to include some libs or something |
| 08:17.38 | Shirik | I might be able to do it with some hackery of like spawning a process |
| 08:17.45 | krka | what's the point in building it in java if you're going to make it windows-only? |
| 08:17.45 | MentalPower | anyways, C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft works 9/10 times |
| 08:17.46 | Shirik | and using stdout/stdin |
| 08:17.46 | bleetah | i think you'll find it's tied up in old court cases |
| 08:18.02 | Arrowmaster | MentalPower: no it doesnt, most vista users dont have it installed there anymore |
| 08:18.11 | Shirik | In any case, it does have quite a few default solutions |
| 08:18.14 | Shirik | none worked for you End? |
| 08:18.16 | Shirik | What is yours? |
| 08:18.27 | End | the vista path, but I'm not on vista anymore |
| 08:18.30 | End | I downgraded to xp |
| 08:18.35 | Shirik | well that's why :P |
| 08:18.39 | End | so it's c:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft :P |
| 08:18.49 | Shirik | I only try C:\Users\Public on OSes identifying themselves as vista/7 |
| 08:18.54 | End | ah |
| 08:18.57 | End | interesting |
| 08:18.58 | MentalPower | Shirik: FYI the sdk refuses to download |
| 08:19.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what does minion check to determine version? |
| 08:19.06 | Shirik | orly |
| 08:19.10 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Black magic |
| 08:19.15 | Shirik | literally |
| 08:19.21 | End | well, at least most people with strange paths have a good chance of knowing where they put it |
| 08:19.22 | bleetah | MentalPower: probably needs some JNI magics |
| 08:19.23 | Shirik | sometimes I don't even know how |
| 08:19.35 | Thunder_Child | you may want to learn.... |
| 08:19.35 | End | starts up minion and CC and has them duke it out |
| 08:19.36 | krka | this might work though: http://www.rgagnon.com/javadetails/java-0480.html |
| 08:19.46 | Shirik | rofl |
| 08:19.48 | Thunder_Child | End, already did that....hence my question |
| 08:19.48 | Shirik | sorry MentalPower |
| 08:19.52 | Shirik | it's on the server in the wrong name |
| 08:20.05 | MentalPower | ~fail Shirik |
| 08:20.06 | purl | Shirik, you Fail! |
| 08:20.07 | MentalPower | :P |
| 08:20.22 | End | I think it ignores directories with .svn in them :P |
| 08:20.38 | Shirik | It should work now |
| 08:20.52 | Torhal | Meh. Doesn't launch. |
| 08:20.53 | MentalPower | krka: using reg.exe... not bad... but definately a hack |
| 08:21.04 | End | huh |
| 08:21.09 | krka | MentalPower: sure, but you're already assuming a specific platform |
| 08:21.13 | Shirik | you can alternatively get it from http://minion.mmoui.com/sdk-install.zip |
| 08:21.22 | Shirik | Torhal: Just downloads a jnlp file? |
| 08:21.23 | End | wonders why Ace3 is waiting for Ace2 |
| 08:21.30 | Torhal | Shirik: Yup |
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| 08:21.37 | Shirik | you can start it up with the program "javaws" |
| 08:21.44 | bleetah | MentalPower: I think you can also do some java.util doo, too |
| 08:21.49 | bleetah | s/doo/foo/ |
| 08:21.53 | bleetah | as well as the JNI magics |
| 08:22.23 | Torhal | Shirik: That did the trick, so far :) |
| 08:22.49 | End | I can't ignore addons that aren't available! |
| 08:22.54 | Thunder_Child | is it that freaking hard for authors to keep to the same version style across addon hosts |
| 08:23.31 | End | haha |
| 08:23.35 | Shirik | anyway, Thunder_Child, to more directly answer your question |
| 08:23.44 | Shirik | it checks both the version number in the TOC and the site version |
| 08:24.06 | End | huh |
| 08:24.10 | Shirik | if it cannot reasonably make the assertion that they are the same, it assumes the site version is newer until you have updated at least once |
| 08:24.12 | End | can you un-ignore stuff? |
| 08:24.19 | Shirik | Now, it does in fact mangle the versions in that process |
| 08:24.25 | Cairenn | End: yes |
| 08:24.27 | Shirik | for example, dropping "r" or "v" from the front |
| 08:24.29 | Cairenn | covered in the FAQ |
| 08:24.32 | End | pff |
| 08:24.39 | End | I don't have no time for a stinking FAQ! |
| 08:24.42 | End | reads the FAQ. |
| 08:24.58 | airtonix | frowns |
| 08:25.24 | End | hm |
| 08:25.29 | Thunder_Child | ok Shirik |
| 08:25.31 | End | that's not exactly where I'd expect to find it |
| 08:25.38 | Thunder_Child | goes back to the bug tracker to post more |
| 08:26.07 | End | mantis? |
| 08:26.12 | Shirik | please note that once you've updated once |
| 08:26.21 | Shirik | it will remember from that point on |
| 08:26.37 | Shirik | yes mantis |
| 08:26.39 | Thunder_Child | but the toc shows a higher number than whats on the webste |
| 08:26.47 | Thunder_Child | and they are formated the same |
| 08:26.56 | Thunder_Child | so bug? |
| 08:27.06 | Shirik | right now I don't make that check |
| 08:27.10 | Torhal | Ok, apparently I fail at running a java app. I managed to get it installed - I have minion.jar and minion-services.jar |
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| 08:27.14 | Shirik | you could post it as a feature request |
| 08:27.16 | Torhal | But that's as far as I get. |
| 08:27.28 | Shirik | java -jar minion.jar |
| 08:27.41 | Torhal | Danke. |
| 08:28.09 | Arrowmaster | you just know people are going praise minion for the exact behavior they complained about in the curse client |
| 08:28.31 | Shirik | huh? |
| 08:28.32 | bleetah | Shirik: http://lenkite.blogspot.com/2008/05/access-windows-registry-using-java.html |
| 08:28.41 | End | damn minion and its no update all unless you have premium! |
| 08:28.41 | bleetah | any good? |
| 08:28.44 | End | (I keed! I keed!) |
| 08:28.48 | End | don't hurt me |
| 08:28.50 | Arrowmaster | blindly updating when the currently installed version isnt available from the site |
| 08:29.21 | Shirik | it won't do that after the initial install |
| 08:29.32 | Thunder_Child | it could use a way to refresh w/o having to exit/enter |
| 08:29.39 | Shirik | when it starts up it's just trying to get in-sync |
| 08:29.49 | Shirik | after that, it only moves forward as the site does |
| 08:30.02 | Shirik | when it first starts up |
| 08:30.03 | Shirik | * |
| 08:30.09 | bleetah | Shirik: http://lenkite.blogspot.com/2008/05/access-windows-registry-using-java.html any good to you? |
| 08:30.49 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, where do the logs go? |
| 08:30.50 | bleetah | code snippet contains how to get Windows proxy settings in pure java |
| 08:30.55 | Shirik | bleetah: That is really scary |
| 08:30.56 | bleetah | *from registry |
| 08:31.07 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: %APPDATA%\MMOUI\Minion\log.txt |
| 08:31.10 | bleetah | Shirik: I hear good stuff about it's workability, though ;) |
| 08:31.13 | Thunder_Child | ty |
| 08:31.21 | bleetah | ie, it does the job |
| 08:33.02 | Thunder_Child | hahaha....it messed up instaling an addon and now it doesnt even see it |
| 08:33.34 | Shirik | "messed up"? |
| 08:33.45 | Thunder_Child | SEE> 05-26-09 01:29:48.585 - java.io.IOException: Failed moving 'C:\Users\TC\AppData\Local\Temp\extractor3150783723979704003\AutoBar\.pkgmeta' to 'A:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\AutoBar\.pkgmeta' |
| 08:33.56 | Thunder_Child | now autobar isnt even on the list |
| 08:34.11 | End | ugh |
| 08:34.14 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck? |
| 08:34.16 | Shirik | sounds like AutoBar got deleted to me |
| 08:34.21 | End | what the hell is your dependancy code doing o_O |
| 08:34.22 | Thunder_Child | and it got removed from CC as well |
| 08:34.35 | Arrowmaster | first, why do you have an A: drive |
| 08:34.37 | jnwhiteh | End: its just checking prefixes |
| 08:34.44 | jnwhiteh | End: sadly, at the moment |
| 08:34.44 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, why not? |
| 08:34.47 | End | that's very silly |
| 08:34.54 | bleetah | Thunder_Child: A:? really? |
| 08:34.55 | Arrowmaster | second, is autobar seriously uploaded to wowi with a .pkgmeta file in it? |
| 08:34.55 | Zhinjio | guh |
| 08:34.58 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, 'A' is for apps |
| 08:35.00 | Zhinjio | did I miss a beta minion!??! |
| 08:35.01 | Thunder_Child | drive name |
| 08:35.05 | bleetah | Thunder_Child: heh fair nuff |
| 08:35.09 | jnwhiteh | End: I agree, but it resolves itself after you update the addon that its "waiting" on |
| 08:35.09 | End | Zhinjio: Cairenn leaked it |
| 08:35.18 | Zhinjio | FIEND! |
| 08:35.18 | End | ah |
| 08:35.22 | bleetah | if cairenn's leaking |
| 08:35.24 | Zhinjio | Cairenn: !! |
| 08:35.25 | Cairenn | (2009-05-26 03:56:25) Cairenn: guys - we aren't posting the news on the site until after we've gotten some sleep, but we're willing to let you guys know now, just please keep it in here until we post - http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
| 08:35.26 | bleetah | she should go see a doctor |
| 08:35.29 | jnwhiteh | there's a system in place to actually know what addons are contained in another addon |
| 08:35.34 | jnwhiteh | but that's not fully in-place yet. |
| 08:35.40 | End | ok |
| 08:35.41 | Zhinjio | roger dodger. |
| 08:35.44 | Shirik | End: It will work itself out, just let it go |
| 08:35.45 | jnwhiteh | but it won't ever do anythign with dependencies |
| 08:35.47 | End | I was seeing a lot of weird stuff |
| 08:35.53 | End | like Ace3 being part of Ace2 |
| 08:35.56 | End | and so forth |
| 08:35.58 | Shirik | On your second run of the program, it will likely look exactly as you expect it to |
| 08:36.00 | jnwhiteh | just check is Broker_foo includes Broker_bar and if not, search for Broker_bar |
| 08:36.20 | jnwhiteh | but yes, I think that should be something that's high priority |
| 08:36.31 | jnwhiteh | since it confuses users when they first open the app |
| 08:36.39 | jnwhiteh | but thas what betaz r 4 |
| 08:36.50 | Thunder_Child | also it seems your rss feed is broked |
| 08:37.04 | Shirik | I believe Dolby is fixing that |
| 08:37.15 | Zhinjio | yikes, immediate error. time to go read. |
| 08:37.22 | Shirik | should be up in a couple of minutes |
| 08:37.24 | Dolby | its been fixed for 5min now |
| 08:37.29 | Shirik | it has? |
| 08:37.35 | Dolby | works for me |
| 08:37.38 | Thunder_Child | i just got |
| 08:37.51 | Thunder_Child | MEE> 05-26-09 01:32:16.413 - [MMOUI Manager - World of Warcraft] Could not download RSS news feed at http://api.wowinterface.com/patcher2/news.html: java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://api.wowinterface.com/patcher2/news.html |
| 08:37.51 | Thunder_Child | com.mmoui.wow.manager.NewsService.run(NewsService.java:162) |
| 08:37.58 | Dolby | Shirik using old api for that =p |
| 08:37.59 | jnwhiteh | news works for me |
| 08:38.08 | Shirik | that was probably a while ago TC |
| 08:38.31 | Zhinjio | going to get latest java before I complain. Not that I complain. |
| 08:38.32 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:39.11 | Shirik | what's wrong? |
| 08:39.50 | AnduinLothar | Shirik: if you detect mac os you prolly want to point to www.apple.com/java to download java |
| 08:40.04 | Zhinjio | java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://minion.mmoui.com/launch.jnlp |
| 08:40.17 | jnwhiteh | AnduinLothar: Java 1.5 should be installed on all machine, afaik |
| 08:40.21 | jnwhiteh | Software Update pushed that |
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| 08:41.05 | Zhinjio | Cairenn: thanks |
| 08:41.10 | AnduinLothar | well whatever got installed by software update errors ont he download installer applet. |
| 08:41.14 | AnduinLothar | and the site says "Your detected Java version (Your Java Version: 1,5,0,13) is too old." |
| 08:41.22 | Thunder_Child | admits defeat and goes to bed |
| 08:41.27 | Shirik|Ecole | yay for phone disconnecting |
| 08:41.29 | Shirik|Ecole | Zhinjio: What's wrong? |
| 08:41.39 | Torhal | Shirik: I've started it three times. Selected my WoW folder all three times. Each time, I'm told that it doesn't appear that WoW is installed there, but it sees the addons. |
| 08:41.46 | Zhinjio | java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://minion.mmoui.com/launch.jnlp |
| 08:41.54 | Zhinjio | I can pastey a full trace if you want |
| 08:41.59 | Shirik | there's already a bug for that Torhal :) |
| 08:42.09 | Shirik | erm Zhinjio |
| 08:42.16 | Shirik | we.... renamed it |
| 08:42.20 | AnduinLothar | oh my java is old >.< |
| 08:42.22 | Torhal | Shirik: Hehe |
| 08:42.23 | AnduinLothar | fail |
| 08:42.29 | AnduinLothar | i thought i ran all those updates |
| 08:42.39 | AnduinLothar | recently reinstalled his OS |
| 08:42.40 | Zhinjio | the download button linked me to minion.jnlp, so thats whats on my desktop |
| 08:42.48 | Zhinjio | should I rename it to launch.jnlp? |
| 08:43.05 | Shirik | no |
| 08:43.09 | Shirik | I'm going to modify the jnlp though |
| 08:44.51 | Zhinjio | I'm extraordinarily good at screwing things up, don't hesitate to tell me I've done something wrong. |
| 08:44.51 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 08:44.51 | Torhal | Shirik: ^^ this is very true |
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| 08:44.52 | Torhal | He breaks my shit, but I pay him back and break his |
| 08:44.52 | Zhinjio | I break Torhal's shit all the time. |
| 08:44.52 | Shirik | re-download the jnlp file please |
| 08:44.52 | Zhinjio | will do. |
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| 08:45.18 | Zhinjio | was I too quick? Maybe something is cached. |
| 08:45.21 | Zhinjio | reloads. |
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| 08:45.54 | Shirik | If you look at the jnlp file in a text file |
| 08:45.56 | Shirik | it should say on the second line |
| 08:45.57 | Shirik | <jnlp codebase="http://minion.mmoui.com/" href="minion.jnlp" spec="1.0+"> |
| 08:46.17 | Zhinjio | it does not, but I can certainly change that. |
| 08:46.42 | Zhinjio | ok, loading/running now. |
| 08:46.58 | AnduinLothar | hmmm SW Update actually pushes a "Java for Mac OS X 10.5 Update 3" |
| 08:47.13 | Shirik | AnduinLothar: Simply put, it's wrong. Java 1.5 is fine |
| 08:47.15 | AnduinLothar | nice, when did they push those? |
| 08:47.28 | Shirik | why am I telling this to you |
| 08:47.29 | AnduinLothar | musta been liek this week |
| 08:47.30 | Shirik | you've been running it |
| 08:47.39 | AnduinLothar | I reinstalled my OS |
| 08:47.43 | AnduinLothar | on my SSD |
| 08:47.59 | Zhinjio | hehehee, I broke it again. |
| 08:48.09 | AnduinLothar | ok, i have the latest from SW Update |
| 08:48.10 | Shirik | you suck |
| 08:48.12 | Zhinjio | "Browse..." button hangs it. |
| 08:48.18 | Shirik | uh |
| 08:48.24 | Shirik | you sure you didn't break your computer? |
| 08:48.29 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 08:48.40 | Shirik | because that's not really something I can screw up |
| 08:48.44 | Zhinjio | everything else running is still working. |
| 08:48.48 | AnduinLothar | "This root certificate is not trusted" |
| 08:48.57 | AnduinLothar | self-signed! |
| 08:49.02 | Thunder_Child | duh, no one trusts Shirik |
| 08:49.07 | Thunder_Child | except Shirik |
| 08:49.24 | Shirik | Would you like to pay for me to get a verisign cert? |
| 08:49.35 | End | hm |
| 08:49.46 | Zhinjio | the "X" doesn't close it either. killing. |
| 08:49.57 | Shirik | you really jacked something up Zhinjio |
| 08:49.59 | Arrowmaster | does wowi not already have one? |
| 08:50.00 | Zhinjio | and I'm going to reboot in case the java upgrade did something whacky |
| 08:50.03 | Shirik | I don't even know where to begin with that one |
| 08:50.08 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Nope. Why would they? |
| 08:50.39 | Arrowmaster | ssl |
| 08:50.40 | AnduinLothar | Installer worked |
| 08:50.46 | AnduinLothar | still no icon tho? |
| 08:50.52 | Shirik | ? |
| 08:50.54 | Shirik | Should have one |
| 08:51.49 | AnduinLothar | mmm it just didn't have one when it installed over my alpha one. |
| 08:52.51 | AnduinLothar | WTB way to hide news |
| 08:53.40 | Shirik | what would go there instead? |
| 08:53.56 | AnduinLothar | nothing. i want to minimize it to make the main content bigger |
| 08:54.18 | Shirik | you want it to be an L shaped box? |
| 08:54.19 | Zhinjio | the minion.jnlp icon is a rhombus with a java log on the front of it. Is that what you're talking about? Or the installed app? |
| 08:54.31 | Zhinjio | ok, rebooted. trying again |
| 08:54.37 | AnduinLothar | no, i'm a pro member i dont have an ad box |
| 08:55.21 | Zhinjio | that time browse worked. Must have been some java upgrade nonsense |
| 08:55.32 | phyber | how do you start this thing? after it installed, nothing happened. and 'java minion.jar' on the command line doesn't seem to be enough. |
| 08:55.35 | phyber | /stab java |
| 08:55.55 | Shirik | java -jar minion.jar |
| 08:55.59 | Zhinjio | ok, looks like it installed |
| 08:56.16 | phyber | ah, segfault. guess that explains why it didn't start after it installed ;) |
| 08:56.22 | Shirik | o.O |
| 08:56.30 | Shirik | wtf did you do |
| 08:56.59 | phyber | aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin && <installed in firefox> |
| 08:57.05 | Zhinjio | excellent. Looking good. |
| 08:57.34 | Shirik | is that really what apt stands for? |
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| 08:57.48 | AnduinLothar | "Could not open web browser: null |
| 08:57.49 | AnduinLothar | " |
| 08:58.00 | Arrowmaster | no Shirik |
| 08:58.19 | Arrowmaster | aptitude is a frontend to apt-get |
| 08:58.22 | Shirik | well anyway |
| 08:58.31 | Shirik | your inability to use apt-get is not my fault, sorry |
| 08:59.31 | End | that's irrelevant |
| 08:59.31 | Shirik | Well anyway guys |
| 08:59.38 | Shirik | any issues, http://www.mmoui.com/bugs |
| 08:59.41 | Zhinjio | grats Shirik |
| 08:59.42 | Shirik | any features, same place |
| 08:59.45 | AnduinLothar | More info fails to opena browser and doens't give me a link t copy |
| 09:00.02 | Shirik | Just keep in mind this is 24587 lines of Java written by one person |
| 09:00.07 | Cairenn | he needs to sleep guys, I'm kicking him off the computer |
| 09:00.11 | Shirik | please try not to slam me too hard |
| 09:00.25 | End | ~slam Shirik |
| 09:00.26 | purl | ACTION slams Shirik against a large cement Tux |
| 09:01.20 | Thunder_Child | ~stimulant Shirik |
| 09:01.23 | Thunder_Child | :( |
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| 09:02.25 | phyber | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html |
| 09:02.28 | phyber | RE: aptitude |
| 09:02.34 | phyber | preferred over apt-get. |
| 09:02.52 | phyber | I'll show that even thoug it really doesn't matter how the java packages were installed. |
| 09:04.49 | Zhinjio | yeah, gonna head to bed myself. G"night folks. |
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| 09:09.59 | Shirik | lol @ X-Perl |
| 09:10.08 | Shirik | I didn't notice this before |
| 09:10.17 | Shirik | it lists itself as "X-Perl UnitFrames by Zek by Zek" |
| 09:10.31 | Shirik | since it has the author in the ## Title field >.> |
| 09:10.41 | Shirik | and also an ## Author field |
| 09:10.59 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, go to be so we can bug you properly |
| 09:11.18 | Thunder_Child | s/be/bed/ |
| 09:11.45 | Thunder_Child | mutters "speaking of which..." |
| 09:11.47 | Shirik | need to finish updating |
| 09:11.54 | Shirik | very slow when you can only download about 10K/sec |
| 09:15.21 | Shirik | ok night night |
| 09:15.21 | Shirik | please don't bite Cairenn's head off |
| 09:15.34 | Cairenn | hugs Shirik |
| 09:15.37 | Cairenn | sweet dreams :) |
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| 09:50.38 | Fisker- | i killed so many |
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| 11:17.44 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/dangerous_drugs_comic.jpg |
| 11:20.13 | |pez| | mikma: Too true. :P |
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| 12:23.33 | zenzio | ninjasnuggles Lopeppeppy |
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| 12:24.55 | zenzio | ninjaregenerates |
| 12:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | Um... ouch! |
| 12:25.03 | Fisker- | ninjadegenerates |
| 12:25.06 | Fisker- | zenzio |
| 12:25.18 | zenzio | fail :-p |
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| 13:02.24 | Legorol | How do I enable the display of Lua errors in the default UI, with no addons installed? |
| 13:02.33 | Legorol | I thought there was an Interface option for that, but it's gone now |
| 13:02.39 | alestane | Should be under Help |
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| 13:08.22 | alestane | Yep, Interface Options > Help > Display Lua Errors |
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| 13:48.02 | Wobin | pft |
| 13:48.04 | Wobin | rolling restarts |
| 13:48.09 | Wobin | haven't seen those for ages |
| 13:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | Since just last week. :P |
| 13:49.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, duh, I forgot today was Tuesday, I'm sorry Wobin. |
| 13:49.55 | Lopeppeppy | Now I know what you meant! |
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| 13:54.31 | dardack | heh |
| 13:54.38 | dardack | i'm surprised they all aren't down |
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| 14:03.27 | Lothaer | G'day guys and gals |
| 14:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Twos-day |
| 14:06.35 | Lothaer | for another 24mins it is :D |
| 14:06.47 | p3lim6270 | is there a way to provide data to the StaticPopups? |
| 14:07.40 | Wobin | Does clearcasting (mage) affect channeled spells? |
| 14:08.00 | mikma | wobin: yes, that's why it's so cool (Arcane Missiles) |
| 14:08.04 | p3lim | ive seen other popups by blizzard that has self.data |
| 14:08.14 | Wobin | mikma: oh duh |
| 14:08.16 | Wobin | Of course |
| 14:08.22 | Wobin | I've been -using- it for AM |
| 14:08.26 | mikma | haha |
| 14:08.31 | Wobin | but for some reason forgot it was channeled |
| 14:08.32 | mikma | selfownage |
| 14:08.35 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:08.42 | Wobin | I guess I only use it for Arcane Barrage =P |
| 14:09.18 | Lothaer | i hate that move |
| 14:09.20 | Wobin | I was just looking to see what spell would give me best bang for clearcast buck |
| 14:09.21 | Lothaer | fucking hate it |
| 14:09.24 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:09.30 | Wobin | it's ridiculous amounts of damage for a short cast |
| 14:09.44 | mikma | needs for the target to be tanked tho ^^ |
| 14:09.55 | Wobin | that's what 'slow' is for =P |
| 14:09.55 | Lothaer | theres onle 2 other moves thats more annoying than Arcane Barrage |
| 14:10.01 | Lothaer | Bubble |
| 14:10.11 | Lothaer | and Cloak of I need to use this to beat you |
| 14:10.16 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:10.17 | mikma | i love frost too much to spec into arcane |
| 14:10.18 | Lothaer | aka Cloak of Hax |
| 14:10.24 | Lothaer | aka Clock of Cheat |
| 14:10.25 | Wobin | CloS is redonkulous |
| 14:10.49 | mikma | amen |
| 14:11.06 | Lopeppeppy | bubbles! |
| 14:11.07 | mikma | and usually they combine other skill with CloS |
| 14:11.18 | Fisker- | your mom is other skills |
| 14:11.19 | Lothaer | imo CloS needs to be able to be dispelable or Spell Stealable |
| 14:11.27 | mikma | ~fisker--- |
| 14:11.32 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 14:11.42 | Fisker- | this is too easy |
| 14:14.16 | Wobin | hm, so squishy as a mage |
| 14:14.26 | mikma | wobin: that's why i love frost |
| 14:14.38 | Wobin | arcane is pretty good single target |
| 14:14.41 | Lothaer | yeah but you get some serious fire power in the trade off huh |
| 14:15.00 | mikma | frost! frost! frost! |
| 14:15.03 | Lothaer | you cant spell damage with out Mage |
| 14:15.04 | mikma | instacast fireballz |
| 14:15.06 | mikma | pew pew pew |
| 14:15.48 | Wobin | the only time I'm standing still at the moment to cast |
| 14:15.52 | Wobin | is to cast arcane barrage |
| 14:16.21 | Lothaer | Jesus wasnt resurected by a priest he was soul stoned by a warlock: or Jeses wasnt resurected by a priest he was a Shaman and self rezzed :D |
| 14:16.51 | Wobin | the latter =P |
| 14:16.58 | Wobin | cause warlocks can't walk on water |
| 14:16.58 | mikma | latter |
| 14:17.02 | mikma | true |
| 14:17.08 | mikma | was about to point that out but you made it first |
| 14:18.03 | Lothaer | Death Knights and Priests can :D |
| 14:18.03 | mikma | they can't resurrect |
| 14:18.04 | Lothaer | yeah they can |
| 14:18.04 | Lothaer | Raise Ally |
| 14:18.04 | End | I walk on water all the time! |
| 14:18.04 | Lothaer | or they can be Engineers :D |
| 14:18.04 | mikma | theirself ^^ |
| 14:18.04 | End | but I have elixirs of water walking |
| 14:18.04 | mikma | raise ally is hard to cast on yourself when you are dead |
| 14:18.11 | Lothaer | i just wish Priests could use Levitate while mounts |
| 14:18.14 | Lothaer | mounted* |
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| 14:19.54 | Lothaer | i was reading a e comic book earlier and i found this frame kinda funny :D http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/10.jpg |
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| 14:20.20 | Lothaer | that should be a item imo :D |
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| 14:23.19 | p3lim | anyone know how to provide data through StaticPopups? |
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| 14:25.02 | foxlit | *magic* |
| 14:25.18 | Lothaer | Twilight is awesome |
| 14:25.24 | Lothaer | the book that is |
| 14:25.27 | foxlit | Nah, they're simple. There's some sort of table structure, and you call some functions to show/hide them. |
| 14:25.31 | foxlit | Go read the code. |
| 14:25.33 | Coren{de} | depends on the data and the static popup, I'd guess... |
| 14:26.18 | foxlit | There's an OnUpdate if you need to actually provide things |
| 14:26.43 | Lothaer | so whats new guys? |
| 14:26.44 | foxlit | IsOutOfBounds() << I so wonder |
| 14:26.54 | foxlit | !api IsOutOfBounds |
| 14:26.54 | lua_bot | IsOutOfBounds: Returns whether or not the player is currently outside the bounds of the world (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsOutOfBounds) |
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| 14:27.29 | Coren{de} | nice, so we can make an AddOn that tells a player that he's plummeting to his death... nice :> |
| 14:28.02 | p3lim | is there any documentation for StaticPopups? |
| 14:28.06 | Coren{de} | mh, does lua_bot also know about events? |
| 14:28.12 | Coren{de} | !event PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED |
| 14:28.17 | Coren{de} | guess not |
| 14:28.17 | foxlit | There's code! What more could you possibly want? :) |
| 14:28.19 | alestane | p3lim: Just the code AFAIK/ |
| 14:28.32 | foxlit | actually, wiki has some content |
| 14:28.37 | Coren{de} | wowcompares.com is your friend, p3lim |
| 14:28.44 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_simple_pop-up_dialog_boxes |
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| 14:29.04 | Lothaer | hey shirik |
| 14:29.30 | Shirik | rawr |
| 14:29.59 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 14:30.17 | Lothaer | so how many people have PMed you about the minion? |
| 14:30.29 | Lopeppeppy | sends an annoying ping! |
| 14:30.38 | Shirik | none, why, how broken did you make it? |
| 14:30.46 | Shirik | ok, now 1 |
| 14:30.47 | Shirik | fu mikma |
| 14:30.52 | mikma | <3 you too |
| 14:30.53 | Coren{de} | ./stance 3, ./rawr |
| 14:31.12 | Lothaer | is it available? i cant see the DL link |
| 14:31.20 | Shirik | oh >.> |
| 14:31.28 | mikma | me neither |
| 14:31.32 | Shirik | maybe >.> |
| 14:31.35 | mikma | there's nothing on wowi either hehe |
| 14:31.37 | Lothaer | tease |
| 14:31.48 | p3lim | hm ill check |
| 14:31.48 | salocin_coding | is it out? |
| 14:31.49 | alestane | Shirik: It still doesn't work on OS X 10.4. |
| 14:32.02 | Lothaer | then get windows |
| 14:32.13 | Coren{de} | anyone know if PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED fires when you die? |
| 14:32.15 | Lothaer | <3 |
| 14:32.20 | Shirik | (00:56:17) (@Cairenn) guys - we aren't posting the news on the site until after we've gotten some sleep, but we're willing to let you guys know now, just please keep it in here until we post |
| 14:32.21 | Shirik | (00:56:20) (@Cairenn) http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
| 14:32.33 | Shirik | alestane: Honestly you're the only person saying that. What's wrong? |
| 14:33.19 | p3lim | the site is unable to detect java on my comp |
| 14:33.39 | Shirik | if you're sure you have java then just download it anyway :P |
| 14:34.13 | p3lim | well the download button is wrong or something |
| 14:34.14 | alestane | Shirik: I updated it a day or two ago and it still can't move the files it extracts into my AddOns directory. It also seems incapable of remembering where the WoW installation is. |
| 14:34.27 | p3lim | minion.jnlp? |
| 14:34.38 | Shirik | that's a java web start file |
| 14:34.51 | Coren{de} | java net start = .jnlp |
| 14:34.53 | Shirik | if your java sucks, you'll need to double click it to start it, or run the program "javaws" with it as its argument |
| 14:34.54 | dardack | minion is in beta, woot gonna download that on my linux box when i get home |
| 14:35.19 | Shirik | if your java doesn't suck, it should intercept it from your browser :P |
| 14:35.30 | Torhal | Shirik: You didn't sleep. No way did you sleep. I slept, but was forcibly woken. |
| 14:35.30 | Coren{de} | the site claims that I'll have to enable javascript to download, but works anyway :) |
| 14:35.40 | Shirik | Torhal: I have to go to work in 30 minutes |
| 14:35.48 | Torhal | Evil. |
| 14:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | Which counts as forcibly woken! |
| 14:35.55 | Shirik | Coren{de}: Because it used to be true :) |
| 14:36.04 | Shirik | then we removed it after people were having issues |
| 14:36.18 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you know, when i install an app, and it asks me if i really want to create the new directory i'm installing it .. its silly =P |
| 14:36.28 | p3lim | i think im gonna go update my java |
| 14:36.32 | Shirik | it's the windows convention, nevcairiel |
| 14:36.32 | nevcairiel | better confirm if i want to install in an existing dir =P |
| 14:36.35 | Shirik | sorry :) |
| 14:36.40 | nevcairiel | break convention |
| 14:36.46 | nevcairiel | if no-one starts, its never going to improve |
| 14:36.49 | Coren{de} | mmh, it downloaded fine but doesn't start automagically |
| 14:36.52 | Torhal | Why does a c stack overflow when a frame's Hide() is called frighten me? |
| 14:36.59 | Shirik | yeah it kinda just shuts down Coren{de} |
| 14:37.01 | Shirik | I know, sorry |
| 14:37.15 | foxlit | Torhal: :SetScript("OnHide", .Show) |
| 14:37.20 | p3lim | Dont be sorry :] |
| 14:37.22 | Shirik | Torhal: Sounds like you... what foxlit said |
| 14:37.24 | Lothaer | installing it now |
| 14:37.39 | p3lim | Havent seen any notice about it on wowi tho |
| 14:37.41 | Lothaer | how long do you plan to have it in beta? |
| 14:37.44 | Coren{de} | ah, sorry to spam, should've read the FAQ first :) |
| 14:37.49 | Torhal | foxlit: Yah, I was thinking infinite loop myself, except the frame has no script on either. |
| 14:37.54 | mikma | faq you too!!!1 |
| 14:37.57 | Torhal | I am rapidly showing/hiding it though |
| 14:38.10 | Torhal | As in, mousing up/down a list that generates tooltips |
| 14:38.13 | Torhal | Bah |
| 14:38.28 | Shirik | Lothaer: There's a release schedule on the site, but it will probably have to be pushed back a little |
| 14:38.34 | Shirik | I will probably update that tonight |
| 14:38.41 | mikma | f-a-l, fail! (men in tights joke) |
| 14:38.44 | Wobin | Shirik: incidentally, the installer looks a little cramped on the right hand side |
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| 14:39.02 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i don't want to install flash, and it bothers me every 10 seconds with a UAC elevation prompt for the flash installer :( |
| 14:39.13 | Shirik | ha! |
| 14:39.17 | Shirik | Now there's a fun bug |
| 14:39.18 | Lothaer | i <3 the sexy minion website :D |
| 14:39.28 | p3lim | Lothaer: idd |
| 14:39.36 | mikma | slow download from wowi is slow :( |
| 14:39.43 | Wobin | also, I can't seem to load the minion =( |
| 14:39.48 | Shirik | mikma: l2connection |
| 14:39.52 | Shirik | Wobin: What's wrong? |
| 14:40.03 | p3lim | mah java install hung itself just now |
| 14:40.06 | p3lim | <3 windows 7 |
| 14:40.08 | Wobin | It doesn't actually -do- anything when I click on the shortcut |
| 14:40.15 | Wobin | (using XP32) |
| 14:40.25 | Shirik | hum |
| 14:40.28 | AckisWork | Shirik: minion is a key logger, I installed it and my wow account was hacked |
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| 14:40.34 | Shirik | is there a javaw.exe running somewhere wobin? |
| 14:40.36 | Wobin | and java (build 1.6.0_13-b03) |
| 14:40.36 | Lothaer | imo the ugly alien should be a murloc :D |
| 14:40.45 | nevcairiel | Shirik: also, showing the currently intsalled version would be great .. if there is an update avail it'll just overwrite the current-version display |
| 14:40.46 | Shirik | under processes in task manager? |
| 14:40.53 | Wobin | a java.exe |
| 14:41.00 | Shirik | yeah I know nevcairiel, a lot of people have asked for that |
| 14:41.09 | nevcairiel | good =P |
| 14:41.10 | Shirik | on Windows it should be javaw, that's probably something else wobin |
| 14:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke AckisWork. |
| 14:41.11 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around AckisWork. with his mind powers. |
| 14:41.18 | Shirik | is there a file in %APPDATA%\MMOUI\Minion\log.txt? |
| 14:41.36 | Coren{de} | now that's strange... it sees all my addons but Karma |
| 14:41.56 | Shirik | Coren{de}: Is Karma from an SVN or git repository? |
| 14:41.57 | Wobin | Shirik: no |
| 14:42.03 | Coren{de} | neither |
| 14:42.11 | Fisker- | there's a spy creeping around here |
| 14:42.11 | Shirik | is it perhaps part of another addon? |
| 14:42.14 | Wobin | lib folder, licence.txt minion.ico and minion.jar |
| 14:42.17 | Fisker- | that Shirik's a spy |
| 14:42.17 | p3lim | lol.. Detected Operating System: Windows Vista |
| 14:42.22 | Shirik | uh, Wobin |
| 14:42.24 | Shirik | wrong folder |
| 14:42.25 | Fisker- | spy 'round here |
| 14:42.26 | Coren{de} | nope |
| 14:42.33 | Shirik | %APPDATA% you can actually type into explorer |
| 14:42.33 | Shirik | do that |
| 14:42.34 | Wobin | oh |
| 14:42.36 | Wobin | kk |
| 14:42.38 | Fisker- | spy sappin' mah sentry |
| 14:42.47 | Lothaer | woot updating alot of mods |
| 14:42.48 | Coren{de} | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8712-Karmaplayertracking.html |
| 14:42.50 | Lothaer | me so happy |
| 14:42.54 | Wobin | no, no log.txt |
| 14:42.58 | Lothaer | hey Shirik |
| 14:43.02 | Shirik | Coren{de}: Close minion, find your log file at %APPDATA%\MMOUI\Minion\log.txt |
| 14:43.04 | Wobin | lib and modules folder and licence.txt |
| 14:43.06 | Shirik | it should tell you why it skipped it |
| 14:43.09 | Lothaer | Eye <3 U |
| 14:43.19 | mikma | ahha |
| 14:43.19 | Wobin | I'll uninstall and reinstall |
| 14:43.20 | Shirik | Wobin: Ok you seriously jacked something up |
| 14:43.25 | mikma | shirik: assplode happened, wanna hear? :D |
| 14:43.33 | Shirik | depends |
| 14:43.37 | Shirik | does it actually have to do with Minion? |
| 14:43.55 | mikma | "An error occured while trying to perform the install: java.io.EOFException: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream" |
| 14:43.57 | Lothaer | the only think im gonna pick on is the skin needs a sexy look not just plain white but thats just me L:D |
| 14:44.13 | p3lim | Shirik: would I need to install all mods again or will the updater find out what versions I already have? |
| 14:44.14 | Shirik | wow, how the heck did you do that mikma |
| 14:44.30 | Shirik | p3lim: It tries to figure it out |
| 14:44.33 | mikma | shirik: it did that all by itself, really :P |
| 14:44.40 | p3lim | majik id say |
| 14:44.41 | Shirik | however, in cases where it can't be 100% sure, it will ask you to download to resync |
| 14:44.51 | p3lim | ok |
| 14:44.56 | mikma | shirik: apparently the download ended and it started to extract the stuff, now it's stuck with red "Preparing to extract..." text :D |
| 14:45.01 | Shirik | that, unfortunately, happens fairly frequently |
| 14:45.13 | p3lim | and I vote for a murloc instead of the fugly alien on the site |
| 14:45.14 | Shirik | because people decide to put different versions in ## Version and the "Version" field on wowi |
| 14:45.15 | Coren{de} | > /Karma': TOC file does not exist or cannot be read |
| 14:45.24 | Shirik | I don't own the rights to a murloc :) |
| 14:45.32 | p3lim | :< |
| 14:45.32 | Shirik | Coren{de}: Well, does it have a TOC file? :) |
| 14:45.40 | p3lim | you _could_ ask blizzard |
| 14:45.41 | Lothaer | Error: Cannot Delete 'C:\World of Warcraft |
| 14:45.48 | Coren{de} | As I use it everyday, I'd think so... :p |
| 14:45.50 | Lothaer | woops lets try that again |
| 14:46.00 | p3lim | Lothaer: wth were you doing there? :s |
| 14:46.32 | AckisWork | I get this error: Error java.ia.EOFException: Cannot log keys, please try again. |
| 14:46.43 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:46.46 | mikma | we rule |
| 14:46.47 | zenzelezz | OMG KEYLOGGER |
| 14:46.47 | Shirik | actually, if you really want some fun |
| 14:46.50 | Lothaer | Error: Cannot delete 'C:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\LunarSphere\Art' |
| 14:46.53 | Shirik | I challenge you all to write a keylogger module |
| 14:46.59 | Coren{de} | mmmh, let me guess... you take the same case as the folder when looking for the toc? |
| 14:47.09 | Coren{de} | folder Karma, toc karma.toc ... |
| 14:47.20 | Shirik | maybe Coren{de} |
| 14:47.31 | Shirik | that's worthy of posting as a bug, if that's the case |
| 14:47.31 | p3lim | i has authenticator naow :3 |
| 14:47.35 | Shirik | http://www.mmoui.com/bugs |
| 14:47.42 | zenzelezz | I can't be bothered to write a keylogger, but my IRC client has logging... everyone please type their passwords here now |
| 14:48.02 | Wobin | Shirik: the uninstaller is called "MMOUI Minion Installer" you might want to remove the "Installer" bit to prevent confusion |
| 14:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | R!sqky |
| 14:48.17 | Lothaer | allyourpasswordsarebelongtome |
| 14:48.18 | p3lim | what is fs and s -.wowinterface.com? |
| 14:48.24 | AckisWork | zenzelezz: ********** |
| 14:48.26 | Coren{de} | renaming toc to same case made it find it |
| 14:48.32 | Shirik | Wobin: I should point out that running that uninstaller will not delete minion |
| 14:48.35 | Shirik | long story behind that :) |
| 14:48.37 | AckisWork | wow it auto blanked out my password! |
| 14:48.42 | Shirik | you should delete the files yourself |
| 14:48.57 | Shirik | p3lim: File server and "static" |
| 14:49.07 | p3lim | ok |
| 14:49.16 | p3lim | hits reject |
| 14:49.23 | Lothaer | so whats it mean when minion cant delete stuff its trying to update? |
| 14:49.27 | Shirik | have fun watching things explode :) |
| 14:49.31 | p3lim | woot |
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| 14:49.44 | Shirik | Lothaer: That means something's broke, probably |
| 14:50.02 | Lothaer | kk :D |
| 14:50.04 | p3lim | ad was smaller.. um.. bigger than I though |
| 14:50.16 | p3lim | lol win, ad failed to load |
| 14:50.23 | Lothaer | same |
| 14:50.30 | Lothaer | just a empty box here :D |
| 14:50.31 | Shirik | you both on linux? |
| 14:50.51 | Lothaer | nope Windows |
| 14:50.53 | p3lim | windows 7 |
| 14:50.59 | Lothaer | XP |
| 14:51.00 | Shirik | wtf |
| 14:51.16 | p3lim | holy shit this thing uses 90k mem |
| 14:51.18 | Lothaer | lol windows 7 is still in beta isnt it |
| 14:51.22 | p3lim | RC |
| 14:51.26 | Shirik | that's it p3lim? |
| 14:51.31 | Lopeppeppy | Um, yeah, but still beta... |
| 14:51.37 | Shirik | it should be a hell of a lot higher |
| 14:51.41 | Coren{de} | Linux, doesn't work with swfdec plugin but demands the "original" one |
| 14:51.44 | p3lim | im just amazed it uses almost as much as wow |
| 14:51.51 | Wobin | Shirik: is there some notification that the install completed, or does the installer just exit |
| 14:51.53 | Shirik | 90k is not even close to wow |
| 14:52.01 | Shirik | the installer exits, Wobin |
| 14:52.02 | p3lim | and during identifying addons it took 94% of my cpu :s |
| 14:52.27 | p3lim | almost as much as half as wow* |
| 14:52.31 | Coren{de} | if you're afraid about 90k mem, you definitely need to upgrade your comp... badly :p |
| 14:52.32 | Shirik | yeah I think I need to increase the buffer sizes |
| 14:52.37 | p3lim | got 1k :< |
| 14:52.50 | Shirik | anyway |
| 14:52.56 | Shirik | bug reports to http://www.mmoui.com/bugs |
| 14:52.58 | Shirik | I have to go to work |
| 14:52.59 | Shirik | baibai |
| 14:53.04 | p3lim | i still use the old ddr so the bricks are expensive |
| 14:53.04 | Coren{de} | have fun :) |
| 14:53.07 | p3lim | hf |
| 14:53.45 | Coren{de} | try ddr3 4gb ecc for expensive ;p |
| 14:54.06 | p3lim | neat, it checks if the folder of the addon is already controlled by subversion or git |
| 14:54.09 | p3lim | then ignores it |
| 14:54.26 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/untitled-2.jpg |
| 14:55.05 | p3lim | ignore the sub-addons |
| 14:55.34 | dardack | ok i opened the gui of an old mod i had created, it seems to work but i'm getting this error: Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:814: attempt to index local 'frame' (a number value) but if i hit ok everything seems to still work (only get the error if i bring up the GUI) |
| 14:55.48 | p3lim | actually, on DockngStation_Config it said 'Waiting for DockingStation' in the status |
| 14:56.10 | mikma | shirik: omfg, really |
| 14:56.15 | Wobin | how big is minion.jar supposed to be? |
| 14:56.19 | mikma | i'm *NOT* gonna write this error |
| 14:56.23 | Lothaer | dardack: that error usually means somethings wrong in blizzards end afaik |
| 14:56.37 | Lothaer | what happened mikma |
| 14:56.51 | dardack | this is the only place i seem to call a dropdown menu <Button name="CustomizedRepGUIMainFrame_IntervalDropDown_Menu" inherits="UIDropDownMenuTemplate"> |
| 14:57.04 | Wobin | Anyone know? |
| 14:57.04 | dardack | didn't know if something had changed with the drop downs |
| 14:57.11 | p3lim | Lothaer: not really |
| 14:57.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Matrix110 (i=Matrix11@95.222.224.90) |
| 14:57.39 | Lothaer | i stand corrected |
| 14:58.01 | Lothaer | minion needs a over timer |
| 14:58.10 | Lothaer | overall* |
| 14:58.11 | Wobin | how big is minion.jar? |
| 14:58.18 | Wobin | filesize |
| 14:58.28 | AckisWork | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1667/ |
| 14:59.05 | Lothaer | 795 bytes |
| 14:59.29 | nevcairiel | thats just the jnlp |
| 14:59.34 | Lothaer | woops |
| 14:59.36 | Lothaer | 624KB |
| 14:59.43 | Wobin | thanks |
| 14:59.47 | Lothaer | nps |
| 14:59.48 | Wobin | meh |
| 14:59.52 | Wobin | maybe I need to reinstall java |
| 15:00.17 | Wobin | messy =( |
| 15:00.18 | mikma | shirik: http://mikma.reaktio.net/shirik.png |
| 15:00.20 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:00.39 | mikma | second install failed :) |
| 15:00.48 | Lothaer | LOL ackis |
| 15:00.55 | Lothaer | get windows :D |
| 15:01.13 | Lothaer | Ackis: http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/10.jpg |
| 15:02.02 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik has now officially, I think, gone to work! |
| 15:02.27 | Lothaer | lo |
| 15:04.13 | AckisWork | hehe |
| 15:04.14 | Lothaer | the only errors ive got are "Addon Not Available", "Error Cannot Delete" and "Internal Error". |
| 15:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | I got no errors, you guys are all defective. :) |
| 15:04.53 | Lothaer | i probably use more mods than you do :D |
| 15:05.03 | Lopeppeppy | *shrug* It's not quantity that counts. |
| 15:05.18 | Torhal | Programmattically, it may |
| 15:05.30 | Lothaer | funny your mum thinks the same thing :D |
| 15:05.31 | Torhal | I just blame Fisker- |
| 15:06.03 | Lopeppeppy | One of these days, you guys are going to use a "your mom" joke the day after my mother dies, and i'm going to fillet you all. Just fair warning. |
| 15:06.32 | Lothaer | let me know so i can use my line for that :D |
| 15:07.29 | Torhal | Hmm. Is it possible that showing/hiding a frame too quickly in rapid sucession could cause the stack overflow? |
| 15:07.29 | p3lim | got no errors, its just very slow on working |
| 15:07.39 | Lothaer | it kinds goes like you: "bla bla bla", me: "your mamma", you: "my mums dead fuck face", me: "maybe thats why i had to use extra lube". |
| 15:07.53 | Torhal | ... |
| 15:07.56 | Lothaer | sorry |
| 15:07.57 | Lothaer | ;D |
| 15:08.22 | mikma | hehee |
| 15:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | starts wondering about Ignore features again. |
| 15:09.50 | AckisWork | ... |
| 15:10.04 | Torhal | AckisWork: That's more harsh than you. |
| 15:10.12 | AckisWork | yes |
| 15:10.17 | AckisWork | I wouldn't do that to Lopeppeppy |
| 15:10.19 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: do it, more room for me and you then! |
| 15:10.24 | AckisWork | Fisker- sure |
| 15:10.26 | AckisWork | but not peppy |
| 15:10.31 | Lothaer | awww /cry |
| 15:12.05 | Lothaer | well after exiting the minion and opening it again the ad now works :D |
| 15:12.10 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 15:12.41 | Lothaer | something about CommSec |
| 15:13.50 | Lothaer | hmm minion auto ignore mods that cause a error |
| 15:14.23 | Lothaer | but the ones that are tagged as not available are still there |
| 15:16.18 | Lopeppeppy | They may become available someday, Minion won't ignore them out of hand. (Is my guess) |
| 15:17.28 | Wobin | hehe commonwealth bank ads |
| 15:17.30 | Wobin | crazy |
| 15:17.40 | Lothaer | yup yup |
| 15:17.53 | Lothaer | now its a ad for HP |
| 15:18.16 | AckisWork | Lothaer: tell me when you get a gold selling ad, I need to buy some |
| 15:18.40 | Lothaer | what minion needs is a total update progress bar and to referesh after all updates (probably already on the list though) |
| 15:18.48 | Lothaer | will do Ackis |
| 15:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | I actually despise that "update all" button. I like to pick and choose. But I can see how the sheeple are excited about it. |
| 15:20.00 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: i am not a sheeple :( |
| 15:20.05 | haste | Lopeppeppy: same |
| 15:20.12 | haste | I want to know what I update before I update it |
| 15:20.24 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, then don't include yourself when I talk about sheeple! |
| 15:20.27 | haste | in many cases there's not even a need for an update |
| 15:20.37 | Lothaer | i just scroll down and see what needs to be updated then hit update all |
| 15:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | haste, *nod* |
| 15:20.53 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: i like update all |
| 15:21.05 | Lothaer | sheeple.... im not from New Zealand |
| 15:22.28 | Elkano | AckisWork, you can't delete comments on curse, can you? |
| 15:22.43 | Lothaer | sup Elk |
| 15:22.44 | AckisWork | Elkano: negative but thanks for reminding me |
| 15:22.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Odlaw (n=ozzy@98.245.39.78) |
| 15:23.07 | Wobin | 2min evocation cooldown is so cool |
| 15:23.59 | Lothaer | lol downloading update for ARL :D |
| 15:24.21 | End | Lothaer: was it dry coded? |
| 15:24.45 | Lothaer | was what dry coded? |
| 15:24.57 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 15:25.30 | mikma | hmm no, nothing helps |
| 15:25.36 | mikma | same error over and over and the install won't finish |
| 15:25.39 | mikma | oh well .. |
| 15:26.01 | Lothaer | must be your OS then |
| 15:26.07 | dardack | so i figured out my dropdownmenu error, aparantly you can't call UIDdropdownmenu setwidt/justify text/or setbuttonwidth anymore |
| 15:26.15 | mikma | yeah, stupid XP |
| 15:26.26 | Lothaer | lol im using XP and its fine for me :D |
| 15:26.45 | End | Lothaer: there was a period of time when 90% of Ackis's commits were drycoded updates to ARL |
| 15:26.55 | End | I dunno if he still does that a lot though\ |
| 15:27.27 | Lothaer | no idea tbh minion just downloaded version 1.0 RC8 |
| 15:29.42 | mikma | this is weird. |
| 15:29.54 | Wobin | k, I figured out why it didn't work for me |
| 15:30.05 | Wobin | cause another program had taken over the .jar extension |
| 15:30.12 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm? |
| 15:30.13 | mikma | oh.. |
| 15:30.15 | mikma | Winrar |
| 15:30.34 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds interesting enough to PM Shirik on the site to tell him, so he can add it to whatever FAQ they presumably will have, etc. |
| 15:30.53 | nicoli_s | doesnt winzip try to take over .jar? |
| 15:30.55 | Lothaer | weird, minion was downloading a supposed update for Broker LunarSphere, the wierd thing is i never released it on its own its bundled with LunarSphere |
| 15:31.07 | *** join/#wowuidev hthieblot (n=chatzill@69.73.16.202) |
| 15:31.12 | Lothaer | i did release it on the LS forums when LS was still being developed |
| 15:31.41 | Lopeppeppy | Lothaer, that's how it does things. Like... Lightheaded. I download Lightheaded, and it marks the other stuff as "updated" afterward. Is that what it did for the Broker? |
| 15:31.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v netcurse] by ChanServ |
| 15:32.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:32.35 | Lopeppeppy | Where stuff= lightheaded modules, that wasn't very clear. I blame the dayquil. |
| 15:32.45 | Lothaer | no, it was trying to actually download now its saying Internal Error |
| 15:33.29 | mikma | well, that doesn't fix my problem |
| 15:33.33 | mikma | i still get the same nag nag |
| 15:33.52 | Lothaer | update windows maybe? |
| 15:33.54 | mikma | application configuration is incorrect... |
| 15:34.20 | mikma | sure i would love to update windows... except ... |
| 15:35.29 | Lothaer | ahh |
| 15:35.41 | Lothaer | your on one of them dodgy copies huh :D |
| 15:35.42 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone else on XP who is playing with the application who can help mikma troubleshoot? |
| 15:35.48 | Lopeppeppy | I did mine on Vista. |
| 15:36.05 | Lothaer | im on XP but mine works fine |
| 15:36.08 | mikma | lothaer: ya ;) |
| 15:36.25 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:37.07 | Wobin | worked fine for me once I reinstalled java |
| 15:37.11 | Wobin | to reinstate the extensions |
| 15:37.32 | mikma | let's try that one too. nothing reserves .jar tho, but |
| 15:37.49 | Wobin | do you have enough room to download the stuff? |
| 15:38.05 | mikma | apparently yes, 27gb ^^ |
| 15:38.09 | zenzelezz | so for someone who's not been paying attention, where do you get the program? |
| 15:38.29 | nicoli_s | minion.mmoui.com |
| 15:38.45 | mikma | i'll try reinstalling java too |
| 15:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | It's not widely publicized yet, it's just for us in the channel for now... |
| 15:39.16 | mikma | wobin: there's like 2 million different java's around, which one did you get? |
| 15:39.32 | Wobin | the one from java.com |
| 15:39.37 | mikma | http://www.java.com/en/download/inc/windows_upgrade_xpi.jsp |
| 15:39.37 | Wobin | it autoselected for me |
| 15:39.39 | mikma | this one? |
| 15:39.53 | Wobin | dunno =) I just clicked "download java" =) |
| 15:40.12 | mikma | i did google "download java" and got the first hit hehe |
| 15:40.26 | mikma | hmm yeah, directs in the same url. good. |
| 15:40.41 | mikma | Congratulations! |
| 15:40.41 | mikma | You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 13). |
| 15:41.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@c-71-197-12-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:41.27 | Lothaer | so is minion working for you now? |
| 15:41.44 | mikma | trying again now, updated the java |
| 15:42.58 | mikma | Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 1.6.0_13 (was _12 before) |
| 15:42.58 | foxlit | Launch >> Select WoW Directory >> cancel >> Select WoW Directory >> cancel... |
| 15:43.25 | Tuller | hrm, minion has a downloader jamber now? |
| 15:43.31 | Lothaer | foxlit why are you canceling it? |
| 15:43.39 | mikma | http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
| 15:43.45 | foxlit | No WoW :) |
| 15:43.50 | Lothaer | kk lol |
| 15:44.13 | mikma | same error after java update |
| 15:44.33 | mikma | reboot -> |
| 15:45.31 | mikma | stupid windows meh |
| 15:45.49 | haste | foxlit: if you just select a dir it will stay happy tho' :p |
| 15:45.57 | foxlit | Yeah, I noticed. |
| 15:46.02 | Lothaer | hmm some internal errors on some BigWigs modules |
| 15:46.52 | AckisWork | Adys: https://www.ohloh.net/p/ackisrecipelist <-- it finally got imported in today |
| 15:47.03 | Adys | lol |
| 15:47.56 | AckisWork | project cost: $ 439,061 |
| 15:48.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Kore_ (n=kore@173-30-25-173.client.mchsi.com) |
| 15:48.53 | Wobin | ... |
| 15:48.57 | Wobin | I can't sign up for the bugtracker |
| 15:49.00 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.07 | Wobin | cause it keeps telling me what I'm entering is incorrect |
| 15:49.09 | Wobin | for the hash |
| 15:49.13 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:49.16 | Wobin | I've been defeated by a captcha |
| 15:49.19 | Lothaer | hey Kael |
| 15:49.28 | Lothaer | grab the minion and help bug it |
| 15:49.39 | AckisWork | Adys: I'm in the top 10% of projects for comment code too |
| 15:49.41 | AckisWork | heya Kaelten |
| 15:49.42 | nicoli_s | why is there ruby in your addon? |
| 15:49.42 | Lothaer | atm mikma is having alot of fun with it :D |
| 15:49.43 | Adys | yeha |
| 15:49.52 | AckisWork | nicoli_s: dataminer |
| 15:49.58 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 15:49.59 | Adys | eh? |
| 15:50.03 | Kaelten | oh? fun |
| 15:50.04 | Adys | what's in ruby? |
| 15:50.05 | mikma | fun fun! |
| 15:50.11 | mikma | like, exploding fun :D |
| 15:50.14 | AckisWork | Adys: dataminer.rb |
| 15:50.21 | Adys | what does it do?Oo |
| 15:50.22 | Lothaer | minion.mmoui.com |
| 15:50.32 | mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/shirik.png |
| 15:50.34 | mikma | BOOM! :D |
| 15:50.49 | Lothaer | Badda Big Boom??? |
| 15:50.57 | AckisWork | Adys: when I used it, it used to scrape wowdb.com to build the database |
| 15:50.58 | mikma | big badda boom! |
| 15:51.02 | Adys | oh. |
| 15:51.08 | Adys | you do that in ruby? |
| 15:51.09 | Adys | you jerk |
| 15:51.30 | AckisWork | Adys: I used data-tools which was in ruby so I just built off of that |
| 15:51.34 | AckisWork | @project data-tools |
| 15:51.35 | Repo | AckisWork: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/data-tools/. DataTools. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author), Ackis (Author). Updated: 9 days ago. Tickets: 4/48 |
| 15:51.47 | Adys | you're still a jerk |
| 15:51.52 | AckisWork | I prefer asshole |
| 15:51.55 | Lothaer | honeymoon is over folks |
| 15:52.19 | Adys | is it? |
| 15:52.20 | Adys | damn |
| 15:52.42 | Adys | XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" |
| 15:52.42 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.44 | Lothaer | im a dick, adys is a pussy and ackis is a ass |
| 15:52.53 | Adys | 58924 requests.. isnt that a lot? |
| 15:52.56 | Lothaer | Team America FTW :D |
| 15:52.57 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1c0b4f6efe6f5cbe6423dd30b42f7a21.png <--before |
| 15:52.59 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f9ce86ceee5eaced298714141d81b5c2.png <--after |
| 15:53.23 | Wobin | failcha |
| 15:53.30 | End | Wobin: robot |
| 15:53.47 | End | I will now speak to wobin the manner that he prefers |
| 15:53.51 | End | BEEP BOOP BAP BEEP BEEP BOOP |
| 15:54.01 | Wobin | omg |
| 15:54.08 | Wobin | You have no right to speak of my mother like that! |
| 15:54.14 | End | 8-) |
| 15:54.17 | mikma | lothaer: leeloo dallas multipass |
| 15:55.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller_ (n=Tuller@c-71-197-12-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:55.21 | Fisker- | naw Wobin |
| 15:55.34 | Fisker- | "Enter the code as it is shown in the box to the right" |
| 15:55.45 | Fisker- | Can't you see that the a is lower than the 7, and etc? |
| 15:55.48 | ckknight | hey all, in case you don't know: http://wowace.com/a/contests-for-blizz-con-tickets |
| 15:56.02 | Wobin | Fisker-: I've done it with lower and upper and appropriate cases |
| 15:56.07 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:56.08 | Lothaer | ........... |
| 15:56.10 | Lothaer | um...... |
| 15:56.18 | Fisker- | But you have to make them appear like in the image! |
| 15:56.22 | Wobin | aha |
| 15:56.28 | Fisker- | Â Â 7 |
| 15:56.28 | Fisker- | A |
| 15:56.29 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 15:56.32 | Wobin | thanks Fisker-, as usual, you're as helpful as ever! |
| 15:56.44 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 15:56.55 | Lothaer | minion removed some mods and added new ones |
| 15:56.59 | Lothaer | wtf |
| 15:57.01 | Stanzilla | k, minion doesn't like me |
| 15:57.03 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 15:57.21 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: you aboot? |
| 15:57.23 | Fisker- | would be awesome if Blizzard launched battle.net support for EU already |
| 15:58.02 | Lothaer | it removed Auctioneer added something called Aww |
| 15:58.15 | zenzelezz | Wobin: where's that captcha from? |
| 15:58.26 | Wobin | the signup to the bugtracker |
| 15:58.38 | Fisker- | Baww Lothaer |
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| 15:58.50 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! |
| 15:58.57 | Lopeppeppy | pounce huggles Lunessa. HI! |
| 15:58.58 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:59.12 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 15:59.18 | Lunessa | How was Roses dear? |
| 15:59.46 | Lopeppeppy | Look! I have a sunburn and sun poisoning, but not a SINGLE bug bite!! |
| 15:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | It was wicked fun, how was your weekend? |
| 16:00.03 | Lunessa | Terrible. |
| 16:00.20 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: SS or it didn't happen |
| 16:00.26 | nicoli_s | is minion supposed to say an addon needs updates as soon as you install it fresh? |
| 16:00.37 | End | I noticed that too. |
| 16:00.38 | Lothaer | added Enalon_Tempest_Marker, added ItsDKTimer and LootHog, oUFAmmo (i dont even have oUF) added TourGuide-DK |
| 16:00.41 | Lothaer | WTF |
| 16:00.58 | jnwhiteh | nicoli_s: what do you mean "install fresh" |
| 16:01.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry I had fun! *meep* what happened, Lunessa? |
| 16:01.24 | zenzelezz | for me at least Minion worked fine |
| 16:01.31 | End | do search for an addon in minion, install it |
| 16:01.35 | jnwhiteh | that doesn't install it |
| 16:01.38 | jnwhiteh | it adds it to the list |
| 16:01.38 | End | oh |
| 16:01.41 | jnwhiteh | so yes, it needs to be updated. |
| 16:01.41 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:01.45 | End | well, there you go then :P |
| 16:01.50 | Lothaer | zenzelezz, did it removed and add mods that you didnt tell it to? |
| 16:01.51 | jnwhiteh | its not "wrong" |
| 16:01.56 | End | it might help if it zoomed to the item |
| 16:02.01 | jnwhiteh | just the install button doesn't do presicely what you'd expect |
| 16:02.08 | End | I didn't even know it didn't "install" it at first |
| 16:02.17 | zenzelezz | Lothaer: no, I wouldn't have said it worked fine if it did :-p |
| 16:02.18 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: Minion does not have the ability to remove mods |
| 16:02.19 | End | (by zoom I mean scrolled) |
| 16:02.27 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: so I find your claims confusing |
| 16:02.28 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: my car was broken into and while they didn't get much, they did get a box full of things that were important to me. |
| 16:02.30 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, it's a bodice burn, so no way you're getting screenshots. |
| 16:02.40 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 16:02.43 | End | doesn't it have an uninstall in the menu? |
| 16:02.47 | End | or am I making stuff up |
| 16:02.52 | Lopeppeppy | Ah... I am saying some very unladylike swear words right now, Lunessa. I'm sorry that people are such asshats. |
| 16:02.55 | End | not that I've even tried to uninstall anything |
| 16:02.56 | Lothaer | Jnwhiteh: well something removed them and all ive used is minion |
| 16:03.07 | jnwhiteh | he may have added it |
| 16:03.11 | jnwhiteh | but it would have been uber-recent |
| 16:03.16 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: well, make a bug report |
| 16:03.21 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: detailing what you did |
| 16:03.23 | jnwhiteh | or posting your log, if nothing else. |
| 16:03.27 | Lothaer | maybe it auto deleted the mods it errors on |
| 16:03.28 | Tuller_ | minus not giving me a target location to install the thing, and not providing me with some obvious way to find the program |
| 16:03.31 | jnwhiteh | the log would tell you what it did. |
| 16:03.34 | Tuller_ | minion install on osx was fine |
| 16:03.46 | jnwhiteh | ah, there is an uninstall now. |
| 16:03.47 | Lothaer | were do i find the log? |
| 16:03.53 | Tuller_ | not so much on on windows7 |
| 16:04.03 | *** part/#wowuidev Tuller_ (n=Tuller@c-71-197-12-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 16:04.10 | jnwhiteh | %APPDATA/Minion/log.txt |
| 16:04.12 | jnwhiteh | or somethign similat |
| 16:04.15 | Lothaer | kk |
| 16:04.15 | jnwhiteh | %APPDATA% on win i think |
| 16:04.16 | Lothaer | got it |
| 16:04.17 | jnwhiteh | i can tell you on windows. |
| 16:05.28 | zenzelezz | I'm on Windows XP (SP3), MInion installed fine. Only thing that confused me was it didn't seem to create a shortcut on the start menu |
| 16:05.29 | Lothaer | were should i post the contents of my log? |
| 16:05.32 | Lopeppeppy | Tuller, if you're on windows there's supposed to be a desktop icon. |
| 16:05.42 | Lopeppeppy | Lothaer, it's not public released yet... PM shirik? *guessing* |
| 16:06.02 | jnwhiteh | Lopeppeppy: no, report bugs via the bugtracker. |
| 16:06.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, listen to jnwhiteh, he rocks and is better and likely has a copy of the program installed! :) |
| 16:06.36 | jnwhiteh | of course I do, I've been using it for weeks :P |
| 16:06.41 | End | giggles at Lopeppeppy. |
| 16:06.54 | nicoli_s | no start menu icon for me either |
| 16:07.16 | Lopeppeppy | I'm at work, dear, no programs here! |
| 16:08.32 | Stanzilla | I think I confused minion by having 32bit and 64bit java installed :P |
| 16:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | ... yeah, that would be confusing. |
| 16:09.52 | Lothaer | ok it added Aww cause apparently its used in some other addon... dont like that ability |
| 16:10.34 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: it should only install what is in the .zip of the first addon |
| 16:10.39 | jnwhiteh | not choose to download something else |
| 16:10.42 | jnwhiteh | if you're seeing otherwise, its a bug =/ |
| 16:12.10 | Lothaer | all i know is i gotta delete some addons and redownload others |
| 16:12.14 | Lothaer | not complaining |
| 16:12.19 | Lothaer | it IS a beta program |
| 16:12.41 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 16:12.43 | jnwhiteh | but if you can repro it |
| 16:12.45 | jnwhiteh | please post re it |
| 16:13.25 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPHThVvgzI -> YouTube - Don't masturbate in a car with a sliding roof |
| 16:17.51 | Wobin | can anyone else sign into the bugtracker? |
| 16:18.39 | Wobin | aha |
| 16:18.44 | Wobin | it's CHROME =P |
| 16:18.49 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 16:19.07 | mikma | wobin: i made my account with chrome moment ago |
| 16:19.14 | Wobin | Chrome 2? |
| 16:19.21 | mikma | yeah |
| 16:19.29 | mikma | now i'm trying to confirm my account |
| 16:19.38 | Wobin | dunno, it just completely failed on every attempt for me |
| 16:19.59 | mikma | the verification failed on chrome |
| 16:20.08 | mikma | blank page displayed instead of passwd boxes |
| 16:26.23 | mikma | i'm gonna do a bug report for shirik about this :D |
| 16:27.08 | Wobin | I did =P |
| 16:27.56 | mikma | wobin: what failed on you? |
| 16:28.03 | Wobin | the captcha |
| 16:28.06 | mikma | did you get some errormonster like i did? :D |
| 16:28.11 | mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/shirik.png |
| 16:28.20 | Wobin | nope the install worked fine for me |
| 16:29.09 | Fisker- | btw |
| 16:31.46 | Zhinjio | g'morning |
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| 16:33.50 | mikma | http://www.mmoui.com/bugs/view.php?id=56 |
| 16:33.52 | mikma | muhahaha |
| 16:34.20 | End | :o |
| 16:36.16 | Adys | http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/kawaiibg.png |
| 16:36.17 | Adys | WIN |
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| 16:38.35 | Lothaer | hey ackis |
| 16:39.50 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/WoWScrnShot_031409_040959.jpg |
| 16:39.53 | Lothaer | WIN |
| 16:39.54 | Lothaer | :D |
| 16:40.06 | Lothaer | and this too http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/message_window_hellokitty1.jpg :D |
| 16:40.20 | mikma | hello titty |
| 16:41.25 | alestane | Ah yes, the Hello Kitty Island Adventure UI. I designed the buttons for art3mis. |
| 16:41.54 | Lothaer | this is my update :D |
| 16:42.06 | Lothaer | it was for a friend not to be relesed :D |
| 16:42.15 | Lothaer | but the WIM plugin is on wowi :D |
| 16:42.43 | alestane | Did you use the button artwork from the cyCircled plugin we made? |
| 16:43.05 | Lothaer | yup :D |
| 16:43.53 | alestane | I'm not too attached to it, but I did the artwork almost from scratch, so just keep the creation credits, please. |
| 16:43.55 | Lothaer | just ported them to buttonfacade |
| 16:44.03 | Lothaer | yeah nps |
| 16:44.10 | Lothaer | im not releasing it though :D |
| 16:44.17 | Lothaer | it was a personal favour for a friend |
| 16:44.20 | alestane | I understand. |
| 16:44.35 | mikma | lothaer: .. stop lying already |
| 16:44.38 | mikma | we know it's your ui |
| 16:44.52 | Lothaer | if you want the WIM plugin go here http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12824-WIMHelloKitty.html |
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| 16:46.59 | Lothaer | glowfosho is one of my fav addons ;D |
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| 16:50.03 | kneeki | Lothaer, Link to it? |
| 16:50.13 | nicoli_s | thats a pretty silly name |
| 16:50.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, no teasing without linkies! |
| 16:50.28 | Lothaer | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/glow-fo-sho.aspx |
| 16:50.40 | Lothaer | it allows you to view and link items with enchants on them |
| 16:50.52 | Lothaer | with it you can place saw massacare on a bow and link it :D |
| 16:50.57 | kneeki | Oh neat! |
| 16:51.11 | kneeki | Needs an upload to WoWI imo! |
| 16:51.19 | pb_ee1 | Talking about WIM you may like Elephant as well |
| 16:51.23 | Lothaer | with my own peronal edit i can link armor ie Chest and Shoulders with Mongoose and link it |
| 16:51.24 | pb_ee1 | > http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5423-Elephant.html |
| 16:51.33 | Lothaer | really annoys trade some times |
| 16:51.56 | Lothaer | i used to link the Phoenix Bow from Kara with 32 Agi on it :D |
| 16:52.17 | Lothaer | or a Wand with Major Spell Power enchant ;D |
| 16:52.20 | Lothaer | just for shits and giggles |
| 16:52.24 | kneeki | lol |
| 16:52.27 | kneeki | That would be awesome |
| 16:52.51 | Lothaer | what i do atm is link Martin Thunder with Massacre on it |
| 16:53.10 | Lothaer | and i tease lvl 19 twink rogues when i link Cruel Bard with the same enchant on it :D |
| 16:53.30 | Lothaer | imagine Cruel Barb with 110 AP on it.... |
| 16:54.00 | sacarasc | Hah. |
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| 16:55.42 | Lothaer | hey Zeksie |
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| 16:57.46 | dardack | this will fiire true if either one isn't nil: if ((isHeader1 ~= nil) or (HasRep1 ~= nil)) then correct? |
| 16:58.41 | stolenlegacy | it should, yeah |
| 16:59.19 | stolenlegacy | lua> local a=1; if((a ~= nil) or (b ~=nil)) then print("abc") end |
| 16:59.20 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: abc |
| 17:00.12 | stolenlegacy | but i'd rather do if (isHeader1 or HasRep1) then |
| 17:00.55 | AckisWork | New ARL poll: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/polls/what-feature-should-arl-1-1-contain/ |
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| 17:02.02 | Lopeppeppy | But... want them all!!!!!! |
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| 17:03.19 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: NO U |
| 17:03.23 | End | yes u |
| 17:03.24 | stolenlegacy_ | lua> local a=1; if(a or b) then print("abc") end |
| 17:03.24 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy_: abc |
| 17:03.39 | _rane | how do you make grid frame click-through? I have background set to 0% alpha, and I can't find any setting in the config |
| 17:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | turn f:EnableMouse(0) f:EnableKeyboard(0) |
| 17:04.34 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
| 17:04.34 | AckisWork | what's the zone name down in icecrown where you do the jousting stuff to kill the undead mobs (lt's commanders, etc?) |
| 17:04.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the latter one is wrong though |
| 17:04.59 | _rane | ScytheBlade1: was taht for me? |
| 17:05.04 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 17:05.13 | ScytheBlade1 | you turn off any input it can accept |
| 17:05.16 | nevcairiel | !api EnableKey |
| 17:05.17 | lua_bot | Frame:EnableKeyboard: Enables or disables keyboard interactivity (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/EnableKeyboard) |
| 17:05.22 | nevcairiel | sounds right |
| 17:05.31 | _rane | ScytheBlade1: I want the background to be click-through, not the playerframes |
| 17:05.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you need to selectively enable and disable the input |
| 17:06.03 | _rane | shouldn't this be already implemented in Grid? |
| 17:06.04 | alestane | A frame can be mouse-disabled without disabling its children. |
| 17:06.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Off on the entire frame, on only on the parts you want to get input on |
| 17:06.20 | ScytheBlade1 | what alestane said |
| 17:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | and iirc yes, Grid has that functionality when configured properly |
| 17:07.02 | _rane | "- allow click-through of layout background when layout position is locked." |
| 17:07.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be it |
| 17:07.18 | _rane | I have it exactly like that |
| 17:07.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me you don't if it isn't working |
| 17:07.42 | Primer | Is there anything in the API that determines if a unit is not in range for [target=mouseover] vs. UnitInRange()? |
| 17:07.57 | Adys | anyone running vista/w7 ? |
| 17:08.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: yes, vista |
| 17:08.15 | stolenlegacy | Adys: vista 64 here |
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| 17:08.32 | Primer | Perhaps I need to explain: I use that macro conditional for healing, and there are times when the unit I'm "targetting" is just slightly out of range, which yields the "Target not in range (or whatever)" error |
| 17:08.33 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: you won the game! congratulations, you get to help me for the next 2 minutes |
| 17:08.35 | Adys | figure up regedit |
| 17:08.39 | Adys | fire** |
| 17:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | nou |
| 17:08.46 | ScytheBlade1 | What am I looking for? |
| 17:08.51 | Adys | regedit |
| 17:08.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I got that much |
| 17:09.01 | Adys | create a new key, anywhere |
| 17:09.01 | Lopeppeppy | Primer, I know it's an error thing that Blizz is aware of, but not sure what's being done with/about it. |
| 17:09.01 | Primer | But then there are other times when then target is REALLY not in range, like, they're not even in the instance, and this macro casts onto me |
| 17:09.05 | Adys | call if "foo" |
| 17:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | done |
| 17:09.17 | Primer | Lopeppeppy: So in other words there is no way to detect it? |
| 17:09.22 | Adys | hit f2 and rename it to "FOO" |
| 17:09.24 | Adys | what does it say? |
| 17:09.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Cannot be renamed, already exists |
| 17:09.38 | Adys | fuck |
| 17:09.39 | Lopeppeppy | There's some way people are doing their macros to get around it, but I don't think you can detect "in range" via macro... |
| 17:09.40 | Adys | thanks |
| 17:09.45 | ScytheBlade1 | They registry is case insensitive but case aware |
| 17:09.49 | Adys | delete it and pour water on your computer |
| 17:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | You could have just asked ;0 |
| 17:09.53 | ScytheBlade1 | * ;) |
| 17:09.54 | Primer | Lopeppeppy: that's not what I want |
| 17:09.54 | stolenlegacy | :D |
| 17:10.13 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: nethertheless it should still rename it correctly. its a bug in regedit |
| 17:10.18 | durcyn | Primer: disable auto-self-cast in your macro |
| 17:10.21 | Primer | Lopeppeppy: I'm actually working on an addon, and I'm using UnitInRange() |
| 17:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Primer: UnitInRange() isn't 100% accurate |
| 17:10.42 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: actually can you ss me the error? |
| 17:10.43 | Primer | yeah, tell me about it :/ |
| 17:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | And it can't be, Primer, sorry... |
| 17:10.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Primer: in fact, there are several spells that will be in range when it returns false, and several that won't be in range when it returns true |
| 17:11.02 | ScytheBlade1 | s/false/nil/ |
| 17:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: eh, sure |
| 17:11.14 | Primer | ScytheBlade1: oh, I don't mind that it's a few yards off |
| 17:11.21 | mikma | haha |
| 17:11.21 | Primer | which it is |
| 17:11.24 | mikma | now i can't even install java |
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| 17:11.28 | Primer | I know that much |
| 17:11.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Primer: all that UnitInRange() does is see if a unit is within a fixed amount of distance (40 yards iirc) |
| 17:11.45 | Primer | ScytheBlade1: yes, I know this |
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| 17:12.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (still waking up here...) Primer: so what's the question exactly? |
| 17:13.06 | Primer | I was just wondering if there was any way to determine "slightly out of range" vs. "So far out of range that I'm casting on myself (since I have auto cast on)" |
| 17:13.15 | Primer | programatically |
| 17:13.38 | ScytheBlade1 | determine, yes - you check if the individual spell is in range |
| 17:13.45 | ScytheBlade1 | use in any sane way as it relates to casting spells, no |
| 17:13.53 | ScytheBlade1 | that's all locked down in combat due to secure templates and such |
| 17:13.57 | Primer | again, not using this in a macro |
| 17:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | same applies, I'm not talking about a macro there |
| 17:14.09 | Primer | perhaps I should be asking in #wowace :) |
| 17:14.19 | ScytheBlade1 | feel free, but the answer will be the same |
| 17:14.30 | KarlKFI | you can check using the map api |
| 17:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | If you find a way to range check and cast depending on range it'd be considered a bug/exploit and then patched |
| 17:14.40 | KarlKFI | for friendly group members |
| 17:14.45 | Primer | ScytheBlade1: yes, I know this |
| 17:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ah, then sorry |
| 17:14.58 | Primer | <-- has 2 addons on curse, not asking this from the user perspective |
| 17:15.13 | Primer | well, 3 actually |
| 17:15.15 | KarlKFI | sbo, stop being a hard ass :P |
| 17:15.19 | alestane | Primer: The only units you can get exact distance to in pretty much any way at all are group members. |
| 17:15.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll shut up then, I'm still a bit hazy on basic comprehension :) |
| 17:15.24 | Primer | but I think I'm the sole user of one |
| 17:15.33 | ScytheBlade1 | KarlKFI: pfft I was never Dheg and never will be |
| 17:15.38 | Primer | alestane: yes, this is the addon I'm working on now |
| 17:15.39 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 17:15.50 | KarlKFI | my guild was ragging on dheg the other day |
| 17:15.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/AdysSucks.png |
| 17:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 17:15.59 | ScytheBlade1 | KarlKFI: details? |
| 17:16.11 | Primer | alestane: I'm using GetPlayerMapPosition() to track players in instances/bgs/zones with TomTom's arrow |
| 17:16.22 | Adys | thanks love |
| 17:16.31 | KarlKFI | some other NC guy commented on the forums about everyong knowing our guild sucked |
| 17:16.37 | KarlKFI | so shit was flying |
| 17:16.47 | foxlit | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/images/druid/ss1.jpg |
| 17:16.53 | ScytheBlade1 | saying -we- sucked? |
| 17:16.54 | Primer | alestane: FriendlyArrow is the addon. I'm just adding some range checking, and while testing, I noticed that there were times when I was casting on myself with macros, despite the people I was casting on being in the same zone (WG) |
| 17:17.12 | KarlKFI | no, saying my new guild goodwill gamers sucked |
| 17:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 17:17.32 | ScytheBlade1 | well all things considered that doesn't surprise me, considering how arrogant we were (are) |
| 17:17.36 | Primer | So I just became curious regarding the distance it takes for the unit to be considered so far out of range, despite being in the same zone |
| 17:17.58 | KarlKFI | we're not top on the server but we dont suck. we're just not a pvp guild like the elitist jerks in NC |
| 17:18.01 | KarlKFI | ;) |
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| 17:18.05 | ScytheBlade1 | nods |
| 17:18.30 | KarlKFI | GG is pretty laid back |
| 17:18.42 | KarlKFI | finally got to General in 10man |
| 17:18.55 | KarlKFI | still haven't killed thorim in 25 tho |
| 17:18.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I've considered resubscribing, under the pretense that money wasn't an issue |
| 17:19.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Oddly, the only reason I considered it was so that I could relax and farm mats |
| 17:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it doesn't make any sense to me either |
| 17:19.20 | KarlKFI | :) farm me some eternals |
| 17:19.31 | KarlKFI | no it does. i find farming relaxing |
| 17:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | same |
| 17:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I find it VERY relaxing for some reason |
| 17:19.51 | KarlKFI | compared to stupid daily quests or murderous rage inducing pvp |
| 17:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ha agreed |
| 17:20.26 | KarlKFI | you should roll a disc priest and do some 2s with me tho |
| 17:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I need a job first |
| 17:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And then money |
| 17:20.45 | KarlKFI | disc priests are so OP in arenas it's retarted |
| 17:20.59 | ScytheBlade1 | And then to move out so I have a remotely quiet place to regain some sanity |
| 17:21.09 | KarlKFI | >.< gl |
| 17:21.18 | ScytheBlade1 | It will be "a while" at the very earliest |
| 17:21.36 | p3lim | hm I made the argument passing to StaticPopupDialogs work on one addon, now on a different it wont work at all :s |
| 17:23.00 | p3lim | just cant see why :s |
| 17:24.16 | Adys | http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/day05_english.htm |
| 17:24.18 | Adys | I cant stop watching it |
| 17:24.39 | mikma | there, removed java, made sure it's gone (JavaRa), and reinstalled it. still the same error. whee no minion for me :D |
| 17:24.41 | Lothaer | well later guys its time for bed :D |
| 17:24.45 | ScytheBlade1 | above link is NSFW before people click at work |
| 17:25.00 | ScytheBlade1 | funny, but really nsfw |
| 17:26.01 | mikma | adys: "copyright lololo" |
| 17:26.42 | nevcairiel | hah its really funny |
| 17:27.22 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: barely |
| 17:27.24 | Adys | cmon its tf2. |
| 17:28.28 | *** part/#wowuidev Lothaer (n=jamiecoo@114-30-127-253.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 17:28.55 | ScytheBlade1 | barely still means it qualifies as nsfw :P |
| 17:29.05 | Dashkal | It's about damn time! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17367879395&sid=1 |
| 17:29.12 | Adys | Dashkal: OLD |
| 17:29.17 | Adys | without clicking |
| 17:29.38 | mikma | adys: see the "Meet the SPY" text at the start :D |
| 17:29.40 | _rane | seriously, I just can't make grid' frame background click-through (i.e. when it has for example 40-raid layout in use, the frame won't be click-through where there are no player frames) |
| 17:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | It was posted today.. |
| 17:29.48 | Adys | mikma: i know :p |
| 17:29.52 | mikma | Team Fortress 2, copyright lololol, A Valve Picture |
| 17:29.53 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: mmo-champion.com |
| 17:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 17:30.08 | dardack | finally |
| 17:30.52 | Wobin | omg |
| 17:30.58 | Wobin | those new skins look fantastic |
| 17:31.04 | Wobin | esp middle top |
| 17:31.04 | Adys | i love the black bear :) |
| 17:31.14 | dardack | could care less about that myself |
| 17:31.38 | Dashkal | eh, I quit my druid with WotLK. I'm still cheering for this |
| 17:31.42 | zenzelezz | bah... escort quests are bad enough when players kill the NPC, but when the NPC attacks players it just gets stupid |
| 17:31.49 | Wobin | the colour contrast with the marks, looks great |
| 17:32.11 | Wobin | I wonder if they'll solve the druid lockjaw problem =P |
| 17:32.14 | Dashkal | Not so keen on the selection-by-hair-color bit |
| 17:32.17 | dardack | it's sad i fell in like with my DK, sigh i've switched mains every xpac |
| 17:32.23 | Adys | its not a druid problem |
| 17:32.26 | Adys | its a bear problem |
| 17:32.29 | Dashkal | Savrine just wouldn't be Savrine with anything other than green hair |
| 17:33.04 | Wobin | Dashkal: yeah, that's a bit weird |
| 17:33.07 | mikma | wobin: what new skins? |
| 17:33.15 | Wobin | You totally should be able to sit in the barber chair as a bear =) |
| 17:33.19 | Wobin | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/druid-forms.html |
| 17:33.25 | Wobin | and change skins that way |
| 17:33.25 | Adys | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/may/ss1.jpg |
| 17:33.54 | mikma | i wonder what happened to the cat-glyphs |
| 17:33.54 | Coren{de} | so finally the Tauren bears are as well horny... |
| 17:33.59 | Dashkal | yeah, the initial way to shift is... clunky. Hopefully it'll be fixed |
| 17:34.09 | Adys | they still exist mikma |
| 17:34.13 | Adys | just not avail |
| 17:34.34 | Wobin | I remember seeing some fantastic fan art for different druidform skins |
| 17:35.10 | p3lim | I made the argument passing to StaticPopupDialogs work on one addon, now on a different it wont work at all :s |
| 17:35.10 | p3lim | Anyone wanna take a look at the code? |
| 17:35.19 | mikma | need a way to change tree-form too |
| 17:35.23 | mikma | PIMP MY TREE |
| 17:35.42 | Coren{de} | pine vs. oak, go! |
| 17:35.50 | Wobin | hehe tree skins would be great |
| 17:36.00 | durcyn | doesn't matter what kind of tree it is, they all burn the same. |
| 17:36.07 | Wobin | You could look like a SHRUBBERY |
| 17:36.25 | Coren{de} | I just hope that they finally animate the mouth a bit, so it can finally be closed most of the time :D |
| 17:36.27 | Dashkal | Ni! |
| 17:36.33 | Wobin | Coren{de}: exactly |
| 17:36.45 | Wobin | they could use the animations used by the Grizzly Hills bears |
| 17:36.51 | Wobin | when it comes to eating and stuff |
| 17:37.00 | mikma | fish in the mouth |
| 17:37.12 | Wobin | only if you're eating a fish feast =) |
| 17:37.25 | Wobin | but they hold down the food with one paw and tear at it |
| 17:37.55 | Dagmar | That's because they're bears. |
| 17:37.59 | Dagmar | Not "people" in bear-shape. |
| 17:37.59 | Coren{de} | hold with a paw? next thing we'll be able to juggle while dancing... :> |
| 17:38.16 | Wobin | now -that- would be cool =) |
| 17:38.32 | Dagmar | A "people" in a bear costume wouldn't be eatin' right off the floor. It's nasty. ;) |
| 17:38.59 | Dagmar | Coren{de}: Then you'd be good for something more than blocking my view |
| 17:39.20 | Coren{de} | what's nasty about eating off the floor? best immune system training :p |
| 17:39.24 | p3lim | no one? |
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| 17:42.06 | _rane | ok, so what's the second best raid unit frame addon? :P |
| 17:42.21 | Kirov | what class? |
| 17:42.24 | mikma | yes |
| 17:42.26 | stolenlegacy | what ROLE? |
| 17:42.31 | Kirov | ^^ |
| 17:42.31 | stolenlegacy | more importantly |
| 17:42.44 | Kirov | Do you like puppies or kittens? |
| 17:42.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to go with best: grid; second best: grid; third best: grid |
| 17:42.48 | ScytheBlade1 | And so on and so forth |
| 17:42.49 | mikma | cake or pie? |
| 17:42.55 | _rane | as close to grid as possible, but with click-through frames! 8-D |
| 17:43.01 | mikma | .. |
| 17:43.04 | End | click-through? |
| 17:43.16 | mikma | lol kek wut |
| 17:43.20 | ScytheBlade1 | What -exactly- do you want? |
| 17:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | A version of grid that you can't click period? |
| 17:43.27 | mikma | buttsecks please |
| 17:43.39 | End | ~whaleslap mikma |
| 17:43.40 | purl | ACTION beats mikma upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 17:43.53 | stolenlegacy | ~whaleslap purl |
| 17:43.54 | purl | ACTION beats purl upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:43.59 | stolenlegacy | laughs. |
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| 17:44.16 | Kirov | I'm personally a fan of SRaidFrames and Perfect Raid, but neither are at all grid like |
| 17:44.19 | _rane | ScytheBlade1: when you're using raid 40 layout on battlegrounds, and there are not that many players in the raid, there will be blank space in the Grid frame |
| 17:44.25 | mikma | ~emulate Farnsworth |
| 17:44.26 | purl | Good news everyone! |
| 17:44.26 | stolenlegacy | is there any way to adjust pitbull so that it doesn't automatically catch any clicks with mouse button 4? |
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| 17:45.52 | _rane | and even when Grid's background is set to 0% alpha (google reveals this *should* make the frame click-through), Grid's frame will still catch mouse events or something like that |
| 17:45.54 | ScytheBlade1 | _rane: no real way around that without some out of combat frame reflowing, no matter the addon - either it'll show blank space, or if people join while you're fighting, they won't be displayed at all |
| 17:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | no, it won't make that frame click-through |
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| 17:46.30 | durcyn | if you don't want clicks, you could just not use secure frames |
| 17:46.45 | zenzelezz | but all the cool kids do! |
| 17:47.26 | _rane | basically I want the grid frame to be as big as there are players in the raid (or click-through everywhere outside the player frames in it) |
| 17:47.29 | _rane | secure frames? |
| 17:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | The frame's alpha has nothing to do with any other aspect of the frame -- in fact, it's one of the few things you can adjust at any time without any real consequence |
| 17:47.43 | _rane | ScytheBlade1: I understand that, it doesn't make any sense to me either |
| 17:48.01 | _rane | "- allow click-through of layout background when layout position is locked." from r19919's changelog |
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| 17:48.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Did you lock the layout position? And note: that has nothing to do with alpha |
| 17:48.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Second |
| 17:48.28 | _rane | yes, I did |
| 17:48.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Even if the layout is locked, if set to 40 players |
| 17:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | The frames for players 39 and 40, even if they aren't in the game, will still be drawn |
| 17:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Even if they are invisible (SetAlpha(0)) |
| 17:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | And hence clickable |
| 17:49.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The _background_ frame will be click through |
| 17:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Just indistinguishable from the unused player frames |
| 17:50.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Which are not click through |
| 17:51.19 | _rane | hmm, what the hell |
| 17:51.48 | foxlit | ScytheBlade1: why do you think the unused frames are invisible through alpha rather than outright hidden? |
| 17:51.49 | _rane | it suddenly started to present wanted feature |
| 17:52.36 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: to make it properly detect new players while in combat, and hence 'function' |
| 17:53.11 | foxlit | Right, that assumption is wrong. |
| 17:53.13 | _rane | after disabling all addons other than grid (didn't work at this point) and restarting and enabling all addons again |
| 17:53.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Well then I'm wrong |
| 17:53.29 | p3lim | here is the pastey with some comments, anyone know why this is happening? |
| 17:53.29 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/114922 |
| 17:53.30 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 17:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's how it worked from my memory of healing in AV of it |
| 17:53.54 | p3lim | I need to have the .data avalible on show |
| 17:54.19 | _rane | wtf, [ ] Frame lock and the frame isn't movable |
| 17:54.25 | foxlit | does it not print anything, or does it print nil? |
| 17:54.48 | foxlit | Does it even run? |
| 17:55.28 | Dagmar | You're sure OnShow is being called? |
| 17:55.56 | Dagmar | It's either not be called or it's a scoping issue that I suck at |
| 17:56.07 | Kirov | er |
| 17:56.17 | Kirov | You're showing it (which runs OnShow) then setting the data |
| 17:56.27 | Kirov | ie: self.data is always blank |
| 17:56.46 | foxlit | you can pass data as the fourth arg to |
| 17:56.49 | foxlit | function StaticPopup_Show(which, text_arg1, text_arg2, data) |
| 17:56.56 | Kirov | ^^ |
| 17:56.57 | foxlit | Your OnShow handler actually gets data as its second arg. |
| 17:58.26 | foxlit | On the other hand, that won't actually set it |
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| 18:00.28 | Kirov | p3lim - what exactly did you want to do with that data? |
| 18:00.51 | p3lim | its a text string |
| 18:01.03 | p3lim | its gonna be placed in an editbox in the OnShow script |
| 18:01.15 | p3lim | but the data is nil then |
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| 18:02.22 | foxlit | And you're sure you're using the right thing? |
| 18:02.27 | Kirov | Yeah, I ran in to this issue a while back. |
| 18:04.10 | foxlit | The run around with OnShow is also questionable |
| 18:04.22 | foxlit | If you get a dialog back, why not just find its edit box and set its text directly? |
| 18:04.52 | foxlit | [as for data: StaticPopup.lua:2859 more or less makes sure there isn't any attached to the dialog after _Show] |
| 18:05.33 | foxlit | While data seems to be a mechanic to distinguish multiple instances of the same dialog being used in regard to different things |
| 18:06.52 | Kirov | I reported that mechanic as a bug a long time ago (the not setting the data part). The result was clearing data from everything all the time vs. keeping old data around and being told "as intended" |
| 18:07.20 | foxlit | They apparently intend you to set it to your value if you need it after the _Show call |
| 18:07.33 | foxlit | (as in for example BattleFieldFrame.lua:83-86) |
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| 18:10.38 | Kirov | Yeah, basically the way StaticPopups are coded it's impossible for data to be set for the OnShow call unless you roll your own _Show() |
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| 18:10.58 | p3lim | how do I do that then+ |
| 18:11.38 | p3lim | im looking at BattlefieldFrame.lua right now, it brings alot of arguments to the dialog |
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| 18:11.54 | foxlit | local dialog = ... |
| 18:12.04 | foxlit | _G[dialog:GetName() .. "EditBox"]:SetText("foo!") |
| 18:12.13 | Kirov | or dialog.editbox |
| 18:12.22 | Kirov | already pre-defined |
| 18:12.26 | p3lim | can I do it that way? woot |
| 18:12.37 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.45 | Kirov | in the XML for the static popup virtual |
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| 18:12.51 | foxlit | Kirov: then someone needs to slap people for using getglobal needlessly :) |
| 18:12.55 | Kirov | so, dialog.editBox |
| 18:13.13 | Kirov | foxlit - I don't think most of Static Popup has been touched since 1.0 days |
| 18:13.30 | foxlit | Multiple battleground queueing is new |
| 18:13.48 | Dagmar | New since when? |
| 18:13.49 | p3lim | trying it out now |
| 18:13.51 | foxlit | And it seems to be the only thing that uses multiple/data, so I'm thinking 1.somethingintheuppersingledigits |
| 18:14.34 | p3lim | thanks for your help |
| 18:14.40 | p3lim | doing it directly worked fine |
| 18:15.23 | Lunessa | Poor Blizzard. When they make the minimap icons for items smaller the world complains. When they revert the size the world complains. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and damned if you just show up. |
| 18:15.47 | p3lim | they could add a slider option so players could decide size themselves :] |
| 18:15.50 | Arrowmaster | well they did make them larger than they were originally |
| 18:15.59 | alestane | 1) You can't win; |
| 18:15.59 | alestane | 2) You can't break even; |
| 18:16.00 | alestane | 3) You can't get out of the game. |
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| 18:17.06 | Kirov | foxlit - Looking at a diff between the current live 3.1.2 and 1.1.2, the only real change to the static popup code is the addition of passing self to the On_ functions |
| 18:17.18 | foxlit | seems likely. |
| 18:18.21 | Kirov | And changes to use SetFormatedText vs. SetText(format( |
| 18:18.21 | foxlit | do wonder about multiple, though |
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| 18:19.25 | foxlit | Actually, 1.1.2 has a different idea of what "data" is used for |
| 18:19.58 | foxlit | It's sent as an argument to almost everything, but not used in its current distinguish-between-multiple-instances capacity. |
| 18:20.33 | KarlKFI | i still havent figured out what the dot int he center of the minimap icons is for |
| 18:20.46 | foxlit | Something to do with party/raid groups? |
| 18:20.57 | KarlKFI | something... |
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| 18:25.57 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: You sure it's not _you_ on the minimap? |
| 18:26.13 | KarlKFI | no |
| 18:26.26 | KarlKFI | why would i be on the minimap? i'm always at the center |
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| 18:26.48 | KarlKFI | clear as mud |
| 18:27.01 | Arrowmaster | KarlKFI: class? |
| 18:27.11 | End | what do you mean, dot? |
| 18:27.13 | KarlKFI | pally, why |
| 18:27.25 | End | party/non-party have filled and unfilled circles |
| 18:27.30 | KarlKFI | is it sposed to be a pet? |
| 18:27.43 | Arrowmaster | well pets show up |
| 18:28.10 | KarlKFI | so whats the dot for |
| 18:28.28 | End | it might help if we had a screenshot though |
| 18:28.45 | KarlKFI | *rolleyes* |
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| 18:29.43 | End | well, I already said what I thought you were talking about :P |
| 18:31.04 | KarlKFI | ahh, i missread your statement |
| 18:31.13 | Lunessa | Your pet always shows as a dot. As does a vehicle. |
| 18:31.34 | End | well, he said at the center of icons though |
| 18:31.51 | durcyn | dots within dots, man. |
| 18:31.53 | KarlKFI | party members |
| 18:31.59 | zenzelezz | more DoTs! |
| 18:32.04 | End | STOP DOTS |
| 18:32.10 | zenzelezz | DB! RUN! |
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| 18:32.19 | End | giggles. |
| 18:32.47 | zenzelezz | "stop DoTs" actually reminded me more of Hydross |
| 18:32.48 | Lunessa | STOP DOTS! |
| 18:33.00 | zenzelezz | had a hard time teaching our casters that it was bad mojo to DoT during transition |
| 18:33.26 | End | I always stopped DoTs, but then we'd have a mage fireball tick pull it or something stupid |
| 18:33.47 | zenzelezz | we did it the simple way |
| 18:33.49 | zenzelezz | "STOP DPS" |
| 18:34.05 | zenzelezz | no-one was allowed to DPS for the ~10 seconds or so before |
| 18:34.23 | zenzelezz | well, nothing that could proc DoTs |
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| 18:34.56 | End | my DoTs have a longer duration that though :P |
| 18:35.21 | End | hm |
| 18:35.28 | End | ignite and fireball's dot only last 4 seconds |
| 18:35.40 | zenzelezz | could have been 15 seconds, my memory is vague |
| 18:35.48 | Lunessa | Yeah, Shadow Priests, Warlocks, Rogues, Warriors, all more than 10 seconds... |
| 18:36.14 | zenzelezz | but our people still found new ways to aggro something |
| 18:36.18 | zenzelezz | either the boss or his adds |
| 18:36.19 | End | well, siphon life is 30 seconds, so I'd only cast that once I think |
| 18:37.47 | End | I dunno, yeah, that was a messy fight for aggro if people didn't control themselves, though |
| 18:38.02 | zenzelezz | mostly for the adds |
| 18:38.09 | zenzelezz | boss was no problem beyond the transition |
| 18:38.35 | End | we had a lot more aggro fail instances with adds, but it was possible to recover from that |
| 18:39.02 | End | if the boss got pulled back over, and it was bad news |
| 18:39.19 | End | especially if the tank tried to get him back for two bonus sets of adds! |
| 18:40.22 | zenzelezz | I have fond memories of learning that fight |
| 18:40.41 | zenzelezz | I used to offtank (tank adds), which was a challenge... but then one MT quit and I was the only one at the time with frost resistance |
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| 18:41.24 | zenzelezz | still remember the large picture on our forums showing how to use the elevator, and how to get to Hydross |
| 18:45.31 | dardack | stop dots reminds me of the ony video |
| 18:45.57 | Dagmar | MOAR DOTS |
| 18:46.20 | Dagmar | I got my guild leader a little irked at me this weekend mocking him with that |
| 18:46.21 | dardack | heh |
| 18:46.35 | dardack | that video is the one of the best ever |
| 18:46.43 | Dagmar | We were *way* above the DPS needed for Patchwerk, and he kept urging us to do more DPS |
| 18:47.09 | dardack | heh |
| 18:47.14 | Dagmar | I gotta get him to put a realtime DPS window up during that |
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| 18:48.07 | Lunessa | My main tank starts off every boss explanation with "Even groups go left, odd groups go right. We're going to DPS very slowly. And by slow I mean FUCKING SLOW." |
| 18:48.38 | Dagmar | That would be my cue to just use auto-attack and get a string of withering crits |
| 18:49.20 | Lunessa | After everyone yells that it's a 50DKP Minus, we got on with it. |
| 18:49.31 | dardack | heh |
| 18:49.56 | Dagmar | Mainly I just stand there and scratch myself for about 20-30 seconds to give tanks time to remember which buttons to push |
| 18:50.04 | dardack | sometimes i wish people understood positioning a boss for a fight so to give me and/or our other tank time to get some threat |
| 18:50.13 | dardack | i'm just asking for like 5 seconds tops |
| 18:50.40 | Dagmar | I wish tanks would mention it when they can get squished. |
| 18:50.50 | dardack | what you mean? |
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| 18:51.02 | Dagmar | squished/stunned/whatever-makes-the-boss-go-on-a-roflstomping-spree-at-random |
| 18:51.13 | dardack | heh |
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| 18:51.25 | Dagmar | I've actually (okay I'm a hunter, it's our right) started a fight with auto-attack and died because of crits |
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| 18:51.51 | dardack | heh |
| 18:52.01 | Dagmar | Tank goes in, starts hitting, I right click the mob and look for my cigarettes |
| 18:52.05 | Dagmar | I light one, I'm dead. WTF. |
| 18:52.20 | dardack | ok still with crits unless he was moving him shouldn't have gotten agro |
| 18:52.26 | Cide | Dagmar: it's what cigarettes do. |
| 18:52.31 | Dagmar | Yeah I know |
| 18:52.45 | Dagmar | I suspect sometimes they forget to use the shield to block and the sword to attack |
| 18:53.18 | Lunessa | Standard training for a tank in my guild involves them trying to keep aggro off me on a heroic boss- where I open up with trinketed stormstrike and a 40% crit chance. If they can't keep it, they can't tank. |
| 18:53.25 | dardack | i don' thave a shield |
| 18:53.28 | Dagmar | Nice |
| 18:53.56 | dardack | Lunessa: i always on patchwerk give a challege to any dps/tank taht can pull off me without tauntin |
| 18:54.01 | dardack | hasn't happened yet |
| 18:54.27 | nevcairiel | hunters should always be able to if they never FD |
| 18:54.51 | Dagmar | THe fun comes in when you stand around for a good 20s and then start up with a massive chain of crits |
| 18:54.52 | dardack | i have a very good hunter that goes and never has to FD |
| 18:54.54 | Lunessa | dardack: I've basically decided that if you want to tank for Grounding Totem (my guild) you have to be fast on your feet for generating threat and you have to know that the DPS is never going to cut you any slack. |
| 18:55.23 | Primer | hrmm, UnitGUID() returns nil for mouseover on a party frame that's not in the same zone |
| 18:55.23 | dardack | Lunessa: feel the same way |
| 18:55.29 | Primer | but not for target |
| 18:55.33 | Lunessa | Primer: Correctly so. |
| 18:55.52 | Primer | despite the target having a question mark icon when I target him |
| 18:55.53 | Dagmar | There's ntohing like looking through the scroll and seeing nothing but four-digit numbers |
| 18:56.12 | Primer | Lunessa: So is it a limitation of mouseover? |
| 18:56.22 | Primer | I'm finding that there are some oddities with mouseover |
| 18:56.38 | Lunessa | Yes. mouseover is meant for target it the immediate area. |
| 18:56.38 | Primer | in fact, a friend was telling me how his cleanse macro didn't work on Yogg MC |
| 18:56.43 | dardack | i run with a pally tank that pulls lots of threat and usually can out threat other tanks without taunting, he never gets close to me |
| 18:56.45 | Aezay2 | Primer, mouseover unit is invalid for units out of range, has been so since 3.0.2 |
| 18:56.52 | Primer | Lunessa: so what's the effective range? |
| 18:57.03 | Lunessa | 40 yards or so. |
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| 18:57.25 | dardack | yea think you have to check range first |
| 18:57.41 | dardack | luckily my mouseover mod doesn't care about range |
| 18:57.58 | Primer | dardack: what mod is that? |
| 18:58.04 | dardack | mouseoverthreat |
| 18:58.30 | Primer | how do you get around it? |
| 18:58.35 | dardack | was sick of terrible pugs not assisting, i can keep up aoe threat when they are aoe'ing, but if they are single trrgeting they can pull |
| 18:59.01 | dardack | cause as a tank, if a mob isn't wintin 40 yrds of me, dont' think i care |
| 18:59.20 | Primer | I'm trying to implement range checking in my addon, but with these inconsistencies...it's proving tedious running over the permutations |
| 18:59.42 | End | I'm terrible at assisting, probably because I look at tank threat and our hunter MA sometimes doesn't, so I don't always dps the right target >_> |
| 18:59.51 | End | "right" target |
| 19:00.01 | End | I suppose maybe I should be MA |
| 19:00.03 | Aezay | Primer, what you can do is to check if the mouse is over a unitframe, and then get the unit from uf:GetAttribute("unit"), instead of using mouseover |
| 19:00.13 | Lunessa | Primer: Range is tricky business. Look at how the default raid UI does range for it's frames and you'll see what Blizzard does. I think they're capping at like 35 yards or something. |
| 19:00.45 | dardack | End: that's why i made my mod, so if a second person gets say within 10% (at 90% to my 100%) i can than change targets cause my single threat is way better than my aoe |
| 19:01.32 | dardack | wish blizz would implement a isUnitInRange (40 yrds or under would return true) |
| 19:01.36 | dardack | or something like that |
| 19:01.47 | End | well, we have some ways to determine range |
| 19:01.53 | End | but they're a little hacky |
| 19:01.57 | alestane | !api UnitInRange |
| 19:01.58 | lua_bot | UnitInRange: Returns whether a party/raid member is nearby (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitInRange) |
| 19:02.12 | dardack | yea but in range isn't that max 28.8 yrds? |
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| 19:02.32 | End | it says 40 in the link |
| 19:02.35 | alestane | ..."it's fixed by Blizzard at a distance of around 40 yards (which encompasses many common healing spells and other abilities often used on raid members)." |
| 19:02.45 | nevcairiel | 40 isnt accurate though, it matches at abou 38 |
| 19:02.52 | End | I think it's mostly whether the game considers it to be "within the player's sphere of interest" or not |
| 19:02.59 | dardack | oh nice is UnitInRange new then? |
| 19:03.22 | dardack | so primer you could pass UnitInRange('mouseover') to first check if they are in range |
| 19:03.32 | Primer | heh |
| 19:03.36 | Primer | that's exactly what I'm already doing |
| 19:04.01 | alestane | dardack: not very new, I think it's from 2.2 or so. |
| 19:04.14 | alestane | Whenever it was that they added range finding to the stock raid frames. |
| 19:04.21 | dardack | damn where have i been, and i couldn't find it on wowwiki api, so that's why i thought new |
| 19:04.47 | Primer | afaik, that is new |
| 19:04.50 | Primer | 3.0 something |
| 19:08.04 | Primer | Aezay: Could you guide me in the direction of figuring out if the mouse is over a unit frame? |
| 19:08.13 | Lunessa | I think I need to write an AddOn that says âWe canât stop here. This is bat country!" if I try to dismount in combat/while flying. |
| 19:08.19 | Primer | Having a hard time searching for the proper term |
| 19:08.24 | Dagmar | Oh yes absolutely |
| 19:08.35 | Dagmar | It should only do it when you're in an area with bats tho |
| 19:09.03 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Then it gets bloated with map-data. |
| 19:09.10 | dardack | what do you mean primer? |
| 19:09.16 | Dagmar | Go by whole zones then |
| 19:09.24 | Primer | Aezay suggested that I try to detect if the mouseover is a unit frame |
| 19:09.36 | Primer | and get the GUID from that unit frame instead of the 'mouseover' target |
| 19:09.47 | Primer | since the mouseover may not be in the immediate vacinity |
| 19:09.59 | Primer | because I definitely need the GUID |
| 19:10.38 | dardack | why not?local unexists = UnitExists('mouseovertarget') |
| 19:10.56 | Primer | err |
| 19:11.03 | Primer | because I need the GUID...? |
| 19:11.39 | dardack | get the GUID from mouseoertarget |
| 19:11.45 | dardack | if it exists |
| 19:11.51 | Primer | sigh |
| 19:12.05 | Primer | first of all, you do mean 'mouseover', right? |
| 19:12.09 | dardack | yes |
| 19:12.11 | dardack | sorry |
| 19:12.13 | Primer | AFAIK, there's no such unit as 'mouseovertarget' |
| 19:12.15 | Primer | anyhow |
| 19:12.18 | dardack | there is |
| 19:12.20 | alestane | There should be. |
| 19:12.23 | jnwhiteh | i still love watching dresstokill work |
| 19:12.23 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 19:12.25 | dardack | my mod uses it to tell if the mouseover is in combat |
| 19:12.25 | Primer | UnitExists('mouseover') <-- returns nil |
| 19:12.32 | Primer | since he's not in the immediate vacinity |
| 19:12.41 | dardack | oh you care |
| 19:12.51 | Primer | yes, I must |
| 19:12.59 | dardack | hmmm |
| 19:13.02 | Primer | my goal is to show where people who are not in the vacinity ARE |
| 19:13.20 | Primer | that's the whole point of my addon :) |
| 19:13.48 | dardack | by are? yuour tooltip doesn't show that already? |
| 19:13.56 | Primer | the direction |
| 19:14.13 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/projects/friendly-arrow/ |
| 19:14.16 | Primer | watch the video |
| 19:14.25 | Primer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFCNwEOHfk |
| 19:14.31 | Primer | there, direct link to the video |
| 19:14.36 | Primer | with annotations |
| 19:14.56 | Primer | I'm now implementing range checking, and "smart" toggling |
| 19:15.05 | Primer | which is proving to be a bitch |
| 19:15.12 | Primer | given that I heal with mouseovers |
| 19:15.22 | Primer | and mouseover is letting me down |
| 19:16.04 | dardack | so your arrow works right now as is if mouseover returns nil? |
| 19:16.25 | Primer | that demo is all explicit targeting, using target |
| 19:21.18 | dardack | could you local mouseFocus = GetMouseFocus(); local isUnit = UnitExists("mouseover") or (mouseFocus and mouseFocus:GetAttribute("unit")); |
| 19:21.39 | Primer | tries |
| 19:23.58 | Aezay | Primer, something like: local mFocus = GetMouseFocus(); unit = mFocus and mFocus:GetAttribute("unit"); |
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| 19:29.28 | Coren{de} | I'd add a "and type(mFocus.GetAttribute) == "function" before dereferencing... just to be sure :) |
| 19:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | yay for new druid form art! |
| 19:30.06 | alestane | ??? |
| 19:30.22 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17367879395&sid=1 |
| 19:30.29 | Lopeppeppy | Zarhym rocks my world. |
| 19:30.30 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/26/funny-pictures-give-a-cat-a-fish/ |
| 19:30.34 | Coren{de} | someone should change the motd to the screenshot... |
| 19:30.38 | Hjalte | Where's my moonkin art? :( |
| 19:30.38 | Lopeppeppy | That koi is huge |
| 19:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | Hjalte, rtfm? |
| 19:31.11 | Lopeppeppy | Not like that's not in what he posts. Try being happy that the changes are coming, instead of qq that yours wasn't first? |
| 19:31.53 | alestane | Ye Oldde Bear. |
| 19:31.55 | Hjalte | I appreciate new forms, but lots of druids never use bear and cat :) |
| 19:32.10 | zenzelezz | most people prefer coming first |
| 19:32.37 | Lopeppeppy | Of course they do, zenzelezz, or there wouldn't be so much qq. |
| 19:33.10 | Coren{de} | our whole economy is based on that principle, so... don't change! ;p |
| 19:33.24 | Lopeppeppy | Cat and bear have long been a problem due to the hitbox stuff versus animation, so I'm glad they're doing it first. Birds will no doubt come afterward. |
| 19:33.50 | Coren{de} | I'm curious how this FriendlyArrow thingy can work in instances... did they change something around and we can get coordinates in instances now? |
| 19:34.06 | alestane | Also, the moonkin form is newer than the other two, and probably a bit higher-resolution of a model. |
| 19:34.40 | Lopeppeppy | it is, alestane, as far as I can ever tell on my screen. It looks like a moonkin, not a bunch of poly-textured protein. :) |
| 19:36.21 | End | fat chickens are fat |
| 19:36.34 | alestane | Hug a wookie! |
| 19:36.42 | End | wookies aren't that fat |
| 19:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | Cookies are not fat! |
| 19:37.40 | Lopeppeppy | protests! |
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| 19:39.07 | Coren{de} | lol... mkay, GetPlayerMapPosition seems to return coordinates in instances in patches since 3.x where the sum of the patch is odd... :DD |
| 19:40.05 | nevcairiel | it does since 3.1.0 |
| 19:40.09 | nevcairiel | and only in wrath instances |
| 19:41.23 | End | I remember ckknight commenting on when it appeared briefly during beta |
| 19:41.31 | Coren{de} | I'm curious why they changed that |
| 19:41.31 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 19:41.51 | End | I'll drop your name if I want to! |
| 19:41.57 | ckknight | the instances in wrath are different from the other ones |
| 19:41.59 | ckknight | since maps are provided. |
| 19:42.03 | durcyn | Coren{de}: in order to render group blips on the new instance maps |
| 19:42.22 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/at-least-it-got-a-spot-free-rinse/1989 Um. |
| 19:42.58 | Coren{de} | I understand the blips and instance maps, but that doesn't require them to open the function to 'us', the latter is what I'm curious about... |
| 19:43.36 | ckknight | my guess is because it would be harder to close it up. |
| 19:43.37 | End | if they want to use the existing map stuff they'd have to |
| 19:43.48 | End | minimap of course has -always- been closed to us |
| 19:43.52 | End | but minimap is different |
| 19:43.56 | foxlit | The existing *world map* blips are lua-positioned |
| 19:44.01 | End | ^ |
| 19:44.58 | ckknight | that's irrelevant to the player's position. |
| 19:45.12 | Lopeppeppy | People are so silly |
| 19:45.35 | ckknight | no rebuttal |
| 19:45.50 | Thunder_Child | s/silly/stupid/ |
| 19:46.12 | Qzot | So, am I still connected? Sometimes I come back, and it *looks* like a stayed connected, but as soon as I send something, it becomes evident things died long ago. Well, if this appears, well and good. If not, I sure wasted a lot of time typing for a really simple test. |
| 19:46.20 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 19:46.32 | ckknight | Qzot: in mah pants |
| 19:46.32 | nicoli_s | i didn't see any message from you qzot, you must be disconnected |
| 19:48.40 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Add_equipment_sets_tooltip_14 |
| 19:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.google.com/search?q=client+server+database&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.debian:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a |
| 19:49.40 | ScytheBlade1 | nsfw |
| 19:49.43 | ScytheBlade1 | (read the first result text) |
| 19:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 19:50.41 | alestane | ...right... |
| 19:51.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Google fail right there |
| 19:51.34 | alestane | Google found the text... |
| 19:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Well it did do that |
| 19:51.57 | End | wtf |
| 19:52.01 | End | that's weird |
| 19:52.06 | foxlit | And the page isn't altogether weird |
| 19:52.20 | End | well, you have a serious response |
| 19:52.23 | End | then you have... |
| 19:52.25 | End | that one |
| 19:52.41 | End | then you also have "a client server database is a dog eat dog world where the goats in the common eat pies" |
| 19:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like some pie. |
| 19:53.20 | Lopeppeppy | For that matter, someone come make dinner for me, I need some whaaaaambulance service. *has a cold* |
| 19:53.21 | End | only goats allowed |
| 19:54.29 | Coren{de} | the stupid comment has all the three search terms next to each other, so it wins over the primary content... Google behaves correctly by statistical standards :D |
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| 19:59.55 | Lunessa | alestane: Actually, there are some models of keybaords where you can do that. However, it's been a while since I a) lived where the water was clean enough, b) had a military grade keyboard. |
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| 20:07.26 | alestane | Lunessa: I actually sold one that you could roll up and put in a briefcase. |
| 20:08.12 | Lopeppeppy | Not all *dishes* are safe for the washer, who really think that keyboards are? *boggle* |
| 20:09.00 | Lunessa | alestane: I saw one of those once. I think I prefer the kind which are projected now. :) If only because of the cool factor. |
| 20:10.44 | Dagmar | Keyboards are a top rack only item. |
| 20:11.05 | Dagmar | Dishwashing detergents, due to what they have to clean, will *definitely* get finger-funk off keys |
| 20:11.52 | Dagmar | You really want to take the membranes out of 'em (pretty much total disassembly for some) and not run that through tho |
| 20:12.32 | Dagmar | Logitech G15... definitely top rack safe once you take the membranes, screen, and control board out. |
| 20:12.32 | Lopeppeppy | I just use alcohol and swabs... silly me. |
| 20:12.44 | durcyn | lighter fluid works pretty well too |
| 20:12.50 | durcyn | sans fire, that is |
| 20:13.29 | Dagmar | Well, I'd spilled about half a Full Throttle into mine, so alcohol and swabs weren't going to really cut it |
| 20:13.36 | Dagmar | I had to start with the kitchen sink sprayer |
| 20:14.18 | durcyn | depends on the keyboard, i guess. i shorted out one by spilling beer into it, wasn't even usable after cleaning :/ |
| 20:14.35 | Lopeppeppy | My cat destroyed my zboard by spilling coke into it. |
| 20:14.40 | Lopeppeppy | Bad cat. No biscuit. |
| 20:15.26 | Dagmar | The problem is that some of these liquids are *really* caustic where exposed circuit traces (like on the membrane inside most) are concerned |
| 20:15.38 | Dagmar | You don't get to just shake hte liquid out and hope for hte best |
| 20:16.11 | Dagmar | You've gotta rinse that stuff completely out, and this can be hard when capillary action will suck beer right in between two membranes and not let it easily be rinsed out |
| 20:16.27 | foxlit | "Lopeppeppy: Bad cat. No biscuit" << wru, cheezburger joke? |
| 20:16.47 | Dagmar | ...so if you *like* your keybaord, pretty much the only response is to rush to the kitchen and start rinsing and disassembling the thing |
| 20:17.18 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/112983667 |
| 20:17.30 | Lopeppeppy | Foxlit, the no biscuit thing is old, I forget where. Bad ____, no biscuit! |
| 20:17.45 | foxlit | But it's a cat |
| 20:17.55 | foxlit | more specific memes override less specific memes. |
| 20:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | She eats biscuits, if she can thief them from my plate. |
| 20:18.17 | Fisker- | it's getting hot in here |
| 20:18.57 | Dagmar | You just keep those clothes on and suffer. |
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| 20:22.09 | zenzelezz | a search for 'bad "no biscuit"' brings up some interesting suggestions |
| 20:22.39 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 20:26.09 | kd3 | thinks of a cowboy bebop song when hearing 'bad dog no biscuit' |
| 20:27.11 | nicoli_s | man i loved that show |
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| 20:27.27 | kneeki | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8_dY4rpjOc <- kungfu and chainsaws |
| 20:29.18 | foxlit | hey, live action violence. |
| 20:29.22 | foxlit | ... chainsaws ... |
| 20:29.33 | foxlit | Won't someone think of the children? |
| 20:29.37 | mikma | i fucking hate gvideo |
| 20:29.43 | mikma | always lagging like dalaran |
| 20:31.53 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Bad Dog, no biscuit. Farside cartoon. "You call that mowing the lawn? Bad dog. No biscuit." |
| 20:32.56 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you are amazing. *hug* |
| 20:32.58 | Lopeppeppy | Now, I go home! |
| 20:33.06 | Lunessa | Ciao. |
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| 20:34.38 | kd3 | grr |
| 20:34.42 | kd3 | yes, wow is installed there, damn it |
| 20:34.46 | kd3 | pokes minion again |
| 20:35.04 | durcyn | try poking Shirik instead. |
| 20:35.07 | durcyn | with a knife. |
| 20:36.11 | Fisker- | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:40.05 | zenzelezz | enroll an animal in a kindergarten and people will say it's good, children and animals belong together. But enroll a kid in a zoo, and you'll be called a bad parent |
| 20:40.07 | zenzelezz | there is no justice |
| 20:42.38 | mikma | i need to start spamming shirik, like fry says: "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT!" |
| 20:42.44 | End | FIX IT |
| 20:42.47 | kd3 | yay, one of my bug reports is there |
| 20:42.50 | foxlit | FAX IT! |
| 20:42.56 | End | FOX IT! |
| 20:42.57 | kd3 | now to see about the not setting a default install location |
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| 20:52.50 | ScytheBlade1 | so |
| 20:52.58 | ScytheBlade1 | for anyone who has seen thewebsiteisdown.com |
| 20:53.06 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 20:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.arrangebypenis.com/ |
| 20:53.14 | ScytheBlade1 | semi-nsfw |
| 20:53.27 | Lunessa | pretty much NSFW for the word penis. |
| 20:53.38 | ScytheBlade1 | aye, and it has a screenshot |
| 20:53.43 | ScytheBlade1 | (of what the app does) |
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| 21:00.23 | foxlit | "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by РоÑÑийÑкое ÐвÑоÑÑкое ÐбÑеÑÑво." |
| 21:03.08 | |pez| | nice |
| 21:03.59 | mikma | http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ still has it |
| 21:10.39 | durcyn | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30945672/ "Canada's governor general ate a slaughtered seal's raw heart in a show of support to the country's seal hunters" |
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| 21:12.46 | foxlit | mmmm! |
| 21:14.08 | foxlit | I'm sure there must be a reason why hunting *seals* is cruel but hunting in general is not. |
| 21:14.54 | Dashkal | I liked the fark headline better: "Canada's Governor General guts a slaughtered seal, pulls out its raw heart and eats it. What's your head of state done lately?" |
| 21:16.38 | nicoli_s | foxlit, cuz seals are teh cute |
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| 21:17.02 | foxlit | Kitten hunting for sport and profit? |
| 21:18.57 | nicoli_s | dont even talk bout something as sick as shootin tehkittuns |
| 21:20.19 | Dashkal | I'm a cat lover... but my immediate thought was "Kittens? No no no, wait at least a year. More meat" |
| 21:20.21 | durcyn | kittens should only be killed for food anyway |
| 21:20.39 | nicoli_s | nuhuh |
| 21:21.36 | Fisker- | kisses durcyn |
| 21:21.49 | durcyn | Fisker-: i will destroy you |
| 21:22.29 | Fisker- | do it |
| 21:24.29 | Fisker- | trips over a wire and stabs durcyn with a knife |
| 21:36.28 | Kirov | jnwhiteh - on that equipement set snippet, wouldn't it make sense to do the inSet check OnTooltipSetItem instead of just once so that it actually works if you run this in a loaded lua file rather than from WoWLua / Tinypad? |
| 21:36.52 | jnwhiteh | it'll always work.. |
| 21:37.01 | jnwhiteh | just won't be up -to-date if you don't run it on demand |
| 21:37.04 | jnwhiteh | but yes, that's a simple change |
| 21:37.09 | jnwhiteh | that's why its a snippet =) |
| 21:37.10 | Kirov | Or hook the save set function |
| 21:37.16 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 21:37.17 | Kirov | and update then |
| 21:37.39 | Kirov | evil snippet |
| 21:40.24 | foxlit | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/mount-p1mpage.html is still on the "under development" navigation |
| 21:41.55 | ZorbaTHut | I do hope they add one or two more specs to dualspec |
| 21:41.58 | nicoli_s | cuz its not done yet |
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| 21:42.10 | nicoli_s | then it wouldnt be dual spec ZorbaTHut |
| 21:42.18 | ZorbaTHut | alright, they can rename it "multispec" then :P |
| 21:42.22 | ZorbaTHut | and then add one or two more specs to it :P |
| 21:42.24 | foxlit | not until you pay. |
| 21:42.24 | nicoli_s | think of the thousands of man hours of replacing all instances of dual spec with multi spec |
| 21:42.32 | foxlit | one... million... copper. |
| 21:42.33 | ZorbaTHut | s/dual spec/multi spec/ |
| 21:42.53 | ZorbaTHut | regex magic |
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| 21:45.02 | nicoli_s | wb netcurse, flight back to san fran go ok? |
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| 21:47.26 | kneeki | Firefly on Hulu is awesome |
| 21:49.18 | Fisker- | this is my rage face |
| 21:49.51 | Kraps | kneeki: ya think? :p |
| 21:50.04 | Kraps | i'm almost done though :( |
| 21:51.01 | kneeki | I really wish they would make more |
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| 22:01.07 | kd3 | whee, SELinux breaking things |
| 22:01.20 | kd3 | this is why we copy then delete, not move... |
| 22:01.56 | Dagmar | SELinux doesn't break things. Policies that haven't been written by Alhazred the Mad Arab do. |
| 22:02.19 | kd3 | http://www.mmoui.com/bugs/view.php?id=60 >.> |
| 22:02.22 | KarlKFI | subclipse likes to bork things too |
| 22:02.31 | KarlKFI | move* |
| 22:02.39 | KarlKFI | easier to copy then delete |
| 22:04.29 | KarlKFI | :P |
| 22:04.34 | KarlKFI | not that that's related |
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| 22:09.27 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 22:15.29 | foxlit | "Sad isn't it? The entire Night elf race cannot afford an anvil. " |
| 22:17.27 | tekkub | sad? hardly |
| 22:17.30 | Primer | ZorbaTHut: you have a repo for QH? I've embedded your AstrolabeQH |
| 22:17.33 | Primer | and...well... |
| 22:17.37 | tekkub | you want to put a big hot forge up in a tree? |
| 22:18.37 | tekkub | a tree that doesn't have ore deposits because, well, IT'S A TREE |
| 22:18.37 | ZorbaTHut | primer, yeah, it's linked on the QH page near the end |
| 22:18.37 | ZorbaTHut | also, change the major version of it when you embed it |
| 22:18.38 | Primer | ok |
| 22:18.54 | foxlit | I'm afraid that tree is much bigger than any big hot forge you can put in it. |
| 22:19.00 | Arrowmaster | dont you already change the major version of your modified one? |
| 22:19.06 | foxlit | It doesn't seem to mind all of the stone constructions in it, either. |
| 22:19.22 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, yes, but he's embedding my modified one, and I don't want to worry about bumping the minor version of it |
| 22:19.38 | Primer | sigh, throw me a bone...URL? |
| 22:19.42 | Arrowmaster | lazy |
| 22:19.47 | Primer | I mean, google sends me to curse |
| 22:20.00 | Primer | do you mean to say there's a non-curse/wowi page? |
| 22:20.08 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, pretty much |
| 22:20.11 | Arrowmaster | read the curse page |
| 22:20.15 | Primer | I am |
| 22:20.16 | ZorbaTHut | primer, no, the curse page, near the end of the description |
| 22:20.42 | ZorbaTHut | git://cams.pavlovian.net/questhelper.git |
| 22:20.54 | Primer | thanks |
| 22:20.56 | Arrowmaster | isnt that also a huge repo? |
| 22:21.03 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, eh, not that huge |
| 22:21.25 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was in like the gigabyte range before you took over |
| 22:21.43 | ZorbaTHut | I believe at one point smariot had all the source data in it also, but he took that out before I took over |
| 22:23.18 | Primer | heh, I was searching the page for "svn" |
| 22:23.29 | Primer | git ls...no such thing! GAH another thing to learn |
| 22:23.46 | Arrowmaster | you must clone the repo |
| 22:24.04 | Primer | the _entire_ repo? |
| 22:24.13 | Primer | And how is this better than svn? |
| 22:24.21 | Arrowmaster | because it is |
| 22:24.23 | Primer | svn co path/subdir |
| 22:24.24 | Primer | done |
| 22:24.35 | Primer | explain |
| 22:24.45 | Dashkal | Much, MUCH faster after that initial clone |
| 22:24.47 | Arrowmaster | because everything else about svn is fucking retardedly broken |
| 22:25.01 | Primer | I'm looking to put this in .pkgmeta |
| 22:25.11 | Arrowmaster | zorba already told you not to |
| 22:25.12 | Primer | so in other words, I can't |
| 22:25.39 | Arrowmaster | he wants you to change the major version in the library so he doesnt have to worry about bumping the minor version |
| 22:26.01 | Primer | oh, right |
| 22:26.14 | Arrowmaster | and curseforge/wowace supports git/hg externals in subdirs |
| 22:29.10 | tekkub | Primer: it's better because a git repo in it's entirety is almost always smaller than an svn checkout |
| 22:29.15 | tekkub | and you have the entire history |
| 22:29.21 | Primer | ZorbaTHut: I don't suppose you know if upstream Astrolabe will have instance scales? |
| 22:29.39 | Arrowmaster | Primer: nobody has instance scales calculated |
| 22:29.45 | Primer | Zorba does |
| 22:30.17 | ZorbaTHut | some of them, yeah. I'd have more if it mattered a lot to QH, which it doesn't yet - it's been a matter of not-enough-time. |
| 22:30.18 | Arrowmaster | per map or overall? |
| 22:30.22 | ZorbaTHut | they're not exactly hard to calculate. |
| 22:30.24 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, per map |
| 22:30.34 | Arrowmaster | right, nobody has overall |
| 22:30.43 | ZorbaTHut | primer, assuming Esamynn is correct, Astrolabe will have instance scales about a month ago. Beyond that, your guess is as good as mine. |
| 22:30.51 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, what would overall even mean? |
| 22:31.22 | Arrowmaster | to compare two different maps |
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| 22:31.32 | Arrowmaster | like you can with worldmaps |
| 22:31.32 | ZorbaTHut | compare them in what way? |
| 22:31.46 | ZorbaTHut | oh, so the offsets between maps? |
| 22:31.50 | ZorbaTHut | that wouldn't be hard, I just haven't bothered with it |
| 22:34.50 | Primer | heh, now to find someone to party with so I can test |
| 22:36.13 | Primer | well, my AstrolabeQH "integration" consists of getting the LibStub and calling one method, ComputeDistance (so far) |
| 22:37.46 | Primer | eventually I'll need to add some way to get the c,z,x,y of the other player and continue to get it as they cross zones, zone into and out of instances (ideally, the instance portal would be the c,z,x,y when they're in an instance) |
| 22:38.09 | Primer | or something |
| 22:38.40 | ZorbaTHut | the easiest way is probably to get the other player to report on their location |
| 22:38.51 | ZorbaTHut | since the AstrolabeQH c,z numbers are pretty much complete fabrications |
| 22:39.11 | Primer | so this is how map addons do it? |
| 22:39.19 | ZorbaTHut | I have no idea how map addons do it :) |
| 22:39.33 | ZorbaTHut | I think you can request other player locations, but I doubt that works across instances. I don't know if you care about that. |
| 22:39.34 | jnwhiteh | c,z aren't fabrications |
| 22:39.35 | Primer | I've always wondered how I'm able to see specific guidies on the map |
| 22:39.43 | ZorbaTHut | jn, AstrolabeQH's are |
| 22:39.47 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 22:39.48 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 22:39.55 | jnwhiteh | didn't see the QH =) |
| 22:40.10 | ZorbaTHut | I pretty much invented a whole slew of negative-numbered continents :P |
| 22:40.23 | jnwhiteh | well with map ids |
| 22:40.26 | jnwhiteh | that's not necessary anymor e:P |
| 22:40.34 | jnwhiteh | although we could always use map filenames |
| 22:40.34 | Arrowmaster | astrolabes are fabrications |
| 22:40.43 | Arrowmaster | even though you can extract them from the mpqs |
| 22:40.48 | ZorbaTHut | easier to compact it into my data structures. I'd rather truck numeric IDs around than strings |
| 22:40.53 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: ... |
| 22:40.59 | ZorbaTHut | and that's how I did it the first time, so |
| 22:41.06 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: they come directly from the order the maps appear in the returns from the API |
| 22:41.08 | jnwhiteh | aren't they? |
| 22:41.14 | ZorbaTHut | jn, yeah, they do |
| 22:41.16 | jnwhiteh | ZorbaTHut: there is a numeric map id |
| 22:41.20 | Primer | which is alphabetic too |
| 22:41.26 | Primer | from what I could tell... |
| 22:41.27 | ZorbaTHut | ah, how do you get the numeric map id? |
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| 22:42.04 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: i guess i shouldnt say the c,z are, but the rest of the data in astrolabe is, the zone sizes and offsets arent the same as what you extract from the mpqs |
| 22:42.20 | jnwhiteh | correct, they're obtained in-game |
| 22:42.38 | Arrowmaster | would be more accurate to use the data from the mpqs |
| 22:42.57 | jnwhiteh | mpqs were a grey area then |
| 22:43.02 | jnwhiteh | esamynn chose not to step into it |
| 22:45.46 | Primer | I guess I'll have to see how the default UI shows other player locations |
| 22:46.08 | Primer | and show what zone/instance/bg they're in |
| 22:47.00 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
| 22:47.18 | Primer | I never know what is provided by addons and what's not :/ |
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| 22:47.23 | Arrowmaster | it just gives you the coords they should be shown at on the current map you are looking at |
| 22:47.36 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt tell you the zone or anything |
| 22:48.21 | Primer | So far GetPlayerMapPostition() has worked, but only when I'm close enough to the other player |
| 22:48.56 | Primer | But then I haven't tested it in multilevel zones, or across very large zones |
| 22:49.03 | Primer | err, multilevel instances |
| 22:49.17 | Arrowmaster | because it only gives you coords if they can be shown on the current map you are viewing |
| 22:49.31 | Arrowmaster | from what people have told me it wont work at all across multilevel instances |
| 22:49.43 | Lopeppeppy | Which makes sense. |
| 22:49.45 | Arrowmaster | !api getcurrentmapid |
| 22:49.45 | lua_bot | CommentatorGetCurrentMapID: This is a Blizzard internal function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CommentatorGetCurrentMapID) |
| 22:50.00 | Arrowmaster | !api getcurrentzoneid |
| 22:50.00 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getcurrentzoneid'. |
| 22:50.12 | Arrowmaster | !api getcurrentmapzoneid |
| 22:50.12 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getcurrentmapzoneid'. |
| 22:50.34 | Arrowmaster | !api getcurrentmapareaid |
| 22:50.34 | lua_bot | GetCurrentMapAreaID: Returns an ID number for the current map zone (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrentMapAreaID) |
| 22:50.45 | Arrowmaster | somebody tell me what that returns for a northrend instance |
| 22:51.05 | Primer | let me walk into VH and I'll tell you |
| 22:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Industrial: whoa, was scrolled up. pong |
| 22:52.16 | Primer | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 22:52.28 | Arrowmaster | even with map open? |
| 22:53.02 | Primer | 537 in VH with the map open |
| 22:55.10 | Primer | So it's likely that my idea for tracking people will only work consistently when they're relatively close to each other |
| 22:55.25 | Fisker- | y helo thar Arrowmaster |
| 22:55.31 | Fisker- | my archnemesis |
| 22:55.47 | Primer | I wonder what'll happen when one person is within casting range of the other, but they're in different subzones...guess I should test that |
| 22:56.31 | Arrowmaster | ok yeah, those are all in the dbc too the non multilevel dungeons are easy to get size for |
| 22:56.41 | Fisker- | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/168702 <-#2a "JIGGLE THE CORD!" |
| 22:59.32 | Lunessa | Fisker-: Reality is your arch-nemisis. |
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| 23:03.01 | Fisker- | wut? :3 |
| 23:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | Night guys!! |
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| 23:06.37 | mikma | oh lolz, house s05e23 has had 2 endings so far |
| 23:15.15 | Lunessa | "finale" shows make good TV. |
| 23:17.51 | mikma | season finale or show finale |
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| 23:18.42 | Fisker- | house sucks |
| 23:23.11 | mikma | so do you, see |
| 23:23.19 | mikma | ~fisker-++ |
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| 23:37.43 | Fisker- | MIKMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 23:37.46 | Fisker- | ~karma Fisker- |
| 23:37.46 | purl | fisker- has karma of -10 |
| 23:38.37 | Primer | Macros are atomic, right? I mean, a conditional with remain the same value despite some line within the macro doing something that changes that conditional? |
| 23:42.05 | NightHawkTheSane | im not even sure how that'd be possible |
| 23:43.57 | Dashkal | How could anything change? A macro executes within a single frame |
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| 23:47.09 | Dashkal | That said, I assume a line that clears your target would make [noexists] change to true afterwords... |
| 23:47.26 | Dashkal | yes, yes, assumptions, but I don't have a client on this machine |
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| 23:48.04 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i think all conditionals take place after any target change due to 'target=' clauses in the conditional |
| 23:49.32 | Dashkal | (| == newline) /stopmacro [noexists] | /say 1 | /cleartarget | /stopmacro [noexists] | /say 2 |
| 23:49.39 | Dashkal | that should test it quickly enough |
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| 23:50.38 | Kraps | <3 Sylvanas |
| 23:50.57 | Kraps | she is all kinds of awesome |
