| 00:01.17 | Kraps | anyone know the dev of durabilitystatus? |
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| 00:25.52 | Lunessa | I just got the word. A friend lost her battle with cancer and died this morning at 10:20am. |
| 00:26.56 | nicoli_s | :( sorry to hear that lunessa |
| 00:27.32 | Lunessa | She and I weren't really close, but .. it just SUCKS. |
| 00:28.13 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.24 | nicoli_s | shit never gets easy |
| 00:29.25 | Lunessa | You're right. It doesn't. Thanks. |
| 00:31.50 | |Jelly| | hugs Lunessa. |
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| 00:45.18 | Wobin | ahahaha |
| 00:45.19 | Wobin | http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=4175375 |
| 00:45.24 | Wobin | BRUSSELS -- The Belgian bodybuilding championship has been canceled after doping officials showed up and all the competitors fled. |
| 00:45.40 | Dagmar | Whoops. :) |
| 00:47.05 | nicoli_s | haha thats awesome |
| 00:48.11 | Kirov | the best part is you can read that as the officials were doping themselves so they were super big scary it scared off the bodybuilders. |
| 01:00.12 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/devblame.png << whee, changes. |
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| 01:26.32 | Wobin | http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/ |
| 01:26.38 | Wobin | hehe I like the last 'achievement' |
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| 01:33.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, that video needs a NSFW tag |
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| 01:40.07 | Dagmar | "...and ZAT would be your muzzer!" |
| 01:40.09 | Dagmar | ROFL |
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| 01:44.14 | foxlit | "Copyright lololol" |
| 01:44.54 | Arrowmaster | thats on all of their videos |
| 01:45.06 | Arrowmaster | i noticed it lastnight as i was watching them |
| 01:47.04 | Arrowmaster | did they add that "act supprised" at the beginning after everybody had already seen the leaked version? |
| 01:47.23 | Dagmar | Probably so since they got the achievement |
| 01:47.48 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, is that what happened? |
| 01:47.50 | Kirov | yeah, that's awesome |
| 01:47.56 | foxlit | "UNLOCKED - Welcome to the internets: Fail to understand what 'Private' means on YouTube." |
| 01:48.14 | Dagmar | Le Whoops! |
| 01:48.41 | Kirov | Valve has a Youtube channel |
| 01:49.24 | Kirov | They have it set to "private" so that people outside the company can't see it, however the iPhone doesn't respect privacy settings on YouTube |
| 01:49.24 | Kirov | So, someone downloaded it on the iPhone and reuploaded it. |
| 01:51.42 | foxlit | You can download youtube videos on iphones? |
| 01:53.27 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/content/store/nofly.jpg << I claim victory |
| 01:54.23 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: wait, what |
| 01:54.45 | foxlit | The shaded area is a reasonable approximation of where you can't fly in Dalaran. |
| 01:55.03 | |pez| | Shiny |
| 01:55.33 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: you can actually fly from certain points on the violet citadel |
| 01:55.59 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: the problem is height |
| 01:56.06 | |pez| | Still looks damned shiny. :D |
| 01:56.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 01:56.58 | Dagmar | Don't experiment with that unless you have a parachute cloak |
| 01:57.07 | Gnarfoz | however, what is it supposed to be good for? |
| 01:57.09 | NightHawkTheSane | or aren't wearing clothes |
| 01:57.12 | Dagmar | The No Fly zone doesn't give a damn if you're atop one of the high towers. |
| 01:57.25 | |pez| | Gnarfoz: Being shiny? :P |
| 01:57.34 | Gnarfoz | well, ok ;p |
| 01:57.53 | foxlit | Nah, I use that to fix [flyable] |
| 01:58.01 | Dagmar | I took a moment to send a somewhat snippy bug report / suicide note about that |
| 01:58.30 | foxlit | I don't see how you could die :) |
| 01:58.40 | foxlit | Unless you stupidly dismounted mid-air :) |
| 01:58.45 | Gnarfoz | [flyable] sucks and it sucks even more that Blizz ignores it |
| 01:59.09 | Dagmar | Well, you could always jsut stand ther eforever |
| 01:59.15 | Dagmar | ...or until the hearth is ready again |
| 01:59.20 | Dagmar | ...but screw waiting. |
| 01:59.21 | foxlit | or Stuck. |
| 01:59.32 | Dagmar | We're playing these video games for INSTANT gratification, d*mn*t |
| 01:59.33 | foxlit | Which is frankly the right way to go about "get me out of here" moments :) |
| 01:59.53 | foxlit | "I'm stuck" is a synonym for "I don't want to be here and am too lazy to return" |
| 02:00.14 | foxlit | Used it for all sorts of awesomeness: like when I fell from Winterspring in ghost form. |
| 02:00.47 | foxlit | Or when I parachuted off the Northrend map |
| 02:00.56 | foxlit | (your corpse is a pain to get there!) |
| 02:01.54 | Dagmar | Pfft. Explore the waterfalls around the night elf newb area |
| 02:02.09 | Dagmar | There's a great place where you used to eb able to die and not be able to get to your corpse to res |
| 02:04.43 | foxlit | Eek, 0400 |
| 02:04.50 | foxlit | vanishes in a puff of sand. |
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| 02:16.11 | kd3 | yay site-wide outages where they fail to check how the error message looks on dark skins |
| 02:17.24 | Gnarfoz | well, probably run by whitey |
| 02:17.28 | Gnarfoz | they don't care |
| 02:17.28 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:19.03 | Iriel | Gnarfoz: That was pretty good. |
| 02:19.41 | Gnarfoz | I still don't really know what he's referring to, though ;D |
| 02:19.59 | Iriel | skin as in "graphical treatment and colors of a web page" |
| 02:20.06 | Gnarfoz | well, that much, yes |
| 02:20.14 | Kraps | "Ensidia gets 10-man Algalon world-first" |
| 02:20.20 | Iriel | Presumably there's something like dark blue on dark grey text |
| 02:20.23 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:20.47 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: ah, yes. that's great on the eyes. hehe |
| 02:21.20 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: and Yogg-4 10man, too ;D |
| 02:21.37 | Kraps | Yogg-4? |
| 02:21.41 | Kraps | towers? |
| 02:21.44 | Gnarfoz | minus all 4 keepers |
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| 02:22.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm in a inventive mood so I'm inventing nomenclature for that |
| 02:22.04 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 02:22.27 | Gnarfoz | (probably better known by the achievement name, "Alone in the Darkness") |
| 02:23.34 | Gnarfoz | well, yogg they could just try, try and try, but Algalon w/ just one hour per reset... either he isn't that hard or they are indeed just that good. ;] |
| 02:23.47 | Gnarfoz | I'd say the latter ^^ |
| 02:24.30 | Kraps | i wish my schedule was different so i could raid more |
| 02:25.09 | Gnarfoz | I wish my 25man was as good as my 10man :P |
| 02:25.24 | Gnarfoz | and... 10man could improve, too ;D |
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| 02:26.15 | kergoth | anyone know of a current maintained addon like NShakedown? for unlocking everything, displaying test messages, etc so you can position everything without overlaps? |
| 02:26.38 | Gnarfoz | since nshakedown was a lot of work and needed specific coding for each addon it supported, probably not |
| 02:27.07 | kergoth | figured |
| 02:27.10 | kergoth | thought I'd check though :) |
| 02:27.36 | Gnarfoz | it was a great concept, indeed |
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| 02:28.19 | kergoth | yeah, it was handy for getting things all nicely arranged |
| 02:28.31 | kergoth | oh well, guess i'll be less lazy and unock everything manually :) |
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| 02:39.26 | Wobin | http://vimeo.com/4197676 |
| 02:39.33 | Wobin | a little disturbing. but kinda cool =) |
| 02:41.49 | Wobin | actually, the best thing for testing flyable locations in Dalaran is the Higher Learning book =) |
| 02:43.18 | Dagmar | "a little"? |
| 02:43.25 | Dagmar | ri-i--ight |
| 02:43.50 | Wobin | Dagmar: oh come now, this is the Interwebs! |
| 02:43.54 | Wobin | that's pretty tame =) |
| 02:44.44 | Kore_ | lol |
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| 03:00.00 | dardack | finally hodir down 10 man |
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| 03:00.52 | Kraps | uh huh, routers workin, uh huh |
| 03:02.07 | Wobin | I liked hodir |
| 03:02.57 | Wobin | Freya is a pita |
| 03:03.09 | Wobin | goddamn charging water elemental |
| 03:03.21 | Kraps | i keep forgetting, isnt freya good? |
| 03:03.33 | Wobin | they're all "good" |
| 03:03.41 | Wobin | just... temporarily corrupted |
| 03:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | we just spent most of the night wiping to thoirm >< |
| 03:04.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i have no idea why |
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| 03:21.43 | Dewin | Bleh. I need a real auction house so I can figure out what to price something I'm selling on craigslist. |
| 03:21.55 | Dagmar | Yay more forum fryage |
| 03:22.18 | Dagmar | I've got "The account you are not logged in with is not able to post on this forum," and "You can make new forum topic(s)" on the same screen. |
| 03:22.21 | Dagmar | heh |
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| 04:49.13 | Shirik | oh... my god |
| 04:49.35 | Shirik | first day at work, so of course I have to check out the company's code, etc. and get the tools up and running on my system |
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| 04:49.50 | Shirik | supervisor says to me "ok hit 'get latest revision' and we'll go to lunch because it'll take about an hour" |
| 04:49.54 | Spellbinder | you can call me Spellbinder, but only you Shirik |
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| 04:50.11 | Shirik | I thought he was joking. I come back, 70k files transferred, 10.8GB |
| 04:50.19 | Spellbinder | :o |
| 04:50.22 | Spellbinder | hahaha |
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| 04:53.16 | Dagmar | Shirik: Let me guess... It's your job to stabilize it, refactor it into a set of interoperable APIs, and document it? |
| 04:53.29 | Shirik | lol, no |
| 04:53.35 | Dagmar | Okay, so things could be worse. |
| 04:53.35 | Xinhuan | i'm looking for more people to expand my mafia size in facebook mafia wars ;p |
| 04:53.51 | Xinhuan | anyone interested lol |
| 04:53.53 | Shirik | This is a very high quality software group. Everything's documented, traced to requirements, etc. |
| 04:53.58 | Shirik | It has to be. Otherwise it wouldn't be approved |
| 04:54.06 | Shirik | they follow CMMI, etc. |
| 04:54.08 | Dagmar | Zinhuan: xroxy.com |
| 04:54.21 | Dagmar | If you're going to do some crimes, don't be half-arsed about it |
| 04:54.29 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:55.06 | Dagmar | How you think Nashville 2600 was at the top of My Mini City or whatever it was for ages |
| 04:56.35 | Dagmar | I must say I'm kinda astounded that site is still going after seven yeards |
| 04:57.43 | Dagmar | Surely _one_ of the goldsellers I helped kill each other would have tried to get it taken down |
| 04:57.49 | Dagmar | AH well. :) |
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| 05:00.57 | Shirik|Ecole | gd phone |
| 05:01.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I need real internet :( |
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| 05:02.15 | Shirik | omfg no wonder I couldn't stay connected |
| 05:02.19 | Shirik | why I had two mircs open at the same time |
| 05:02.25 | Spellbinder | rofl |
| 05:02.29 | Shirik | competing over the nick >.> |
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| 05:07.03 | Fisker- | attacks Shirik |
| 05:15.36 | Thunder_Child | ~epic fail Shirik |
| 05:15.37 | purl | Shirik, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Shirik, you are that epic failure. |
| 05:16.07 | Shirik | k |
| 05:16.33 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:16.45 | Cairenn | cuddles Sargeras |
| 05:17.03 | Fisker- | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:17.12 | Cairenn | ~lart Fisker- |
| 05:17.12 | purl | installs PocketPC on Fisker-'s PDA |
| 05:17.39 | Fisker- | thanks |
| 05:17.44 | Fisker- | pocket pc is pretty awesome actually |
| 05:19.01 | Fisker- | Not to worry! We're giving you another shot at getting a ticket. We have three (3) BlizzCon 2009 tickets to give away to our users! |
| 05:19.06 | Fisker- | SCALPER! |
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| 05:20.02 | msou| | hmm |
| 05:20.15 | msou| | this artisan skill will it speed things up on ground as well? |
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| 05:21.13 | Dewin | msou|: Artisan riding? No. |
| 05:21.31 | Dewin | Riding skill doesn't determine the speed you can move at all, it just determines which mounts you can use. |
| 05:21.41 | msou| | oh |
| 05:21.45 | Shirik | ok, I think Java has lost its mind |
| 05:21.47 | Dewin | There are no ground mounts faster than 100% to my knowledge. |
| 05:21.54 | Shirik | java.lang.NullPointerException |
| 05:21.54 | Shirik | at com.mmoui.manager.UpdateDispatcher$ServiceLink.access$102(UpdateDispatcher.java:75) |
| 05:22.01 | Shirik | Here's line 75: |
| 05:22.04 | Dewin | Shirik: Can't lose what it never had. |
| 05:22.07 | Shirik | private class ServiceLink { |
| 05:22.35 | msou| | yesterday a new friend helped me find out what's was wrong in my talent tree.. you know that pale horse talent for dks were it speeds thingas up for you.. don't have it anymore and felt I am running like a turtle |
| 05:23.32 | msou| | 2000G to get that artisan and hopefully I get that sooon.. atleast I can fly faster than riding a horse/bear |
| 05:23.35 | WobWork | that talent and the permanent ghoul pet is wonderful for grinding up gathering skills |
| 05:23.50 | Dewin | msou|: pre-patch 3.1 my BM hunter took the pathfinding skill just for the mount speed... over end-game useful talents |
| 05:24.08 | WobWork | crazy =) |
| 05:24.14 | Dewin | Shirik: I'm assuming you've checked the other nearby lines of code as well |
| 05:24.25 | Shirik | there is no code there! |
| 05:24.30 | Shirik | not anywhere near there |
| 05:25.15 | Shirik | ooh I see what it was |
| 05:25.21 | Shirik | java just throwing a really strange error |
| 05:25.26 | Shirik | the error isn't even close to that line |
| 05:25.32 | msou| | Dewin: won't buy anything until I get the artisan, maybe duelspecc after so I can change things when I quest or some suich |
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| 05:26.12 | AnduinLothar | whats the macro to assign an icon? |
| 05:26.36 | Dewin | #show ? |
| 05:26.37 | Dewin | I think. |
| 05:26.58 | Dewin | otherwise, it'll use the first spell in the macro (next in the castsequence if the first thing is a /castsequence) |
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| 05:40.08 | AnduinLothar | no i mean to put a raid icon on the target |
| 05:41.38 | Shirik | AnduinLothar: SetRaidTarget("unit", n) |
| 05:41.44 | Shirik | where n is some value 1-8 or so |
| 05:41.48 | AnduinLothar | yeah |
| 05:42.00 | AnduinLothar | what's the one to check what it is? |
| 05:42.08 | Shirik | GetRaidTarget |
| 05:42.14 | Shirik | or maybe GetRaidTargetIcon |
| 05:42.17 | Shirik | one of those |
| 05:42.29 | AnduinLothar | neither |
| 05:42.41 | Shirik | !api GetRaidTarget |
| 05:42.42 | lua_bot | GetRaidTargetIndex: Returns the raid target on the given unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidTargetIndex) |
| 05:42.50 | Shirik | there you go |
| 05:44.38 | AnduinLothar | thx |
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| 05:44.53 | Shirik | now tell me |
| 05:45.08 | Shirik | why can't I cast an array of Strings, which are in an Object[], to a String[] |
| 05:45.25 | AnduinLothar | cause Java is mean |
| 05:46.22 | krka | because you don't really understand java? :) |
| 05:46.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:46.41 | Shirik | I know why it's just evil |
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| 05:46.51 | Shirik | C++ would let me do it in a heartbeat |
| 05:47.09 | krka | C++ would also let you shoot off your own foot while hanging yourself |
| 05:47.15 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:48.03 | krka | "i see what you're trying to do, but how are you going to pull the trigger when you're hanging? let me set up a timer for you!" <-- c++ being helpful |
| 05:48.29 | Shirik | hey hey hey now |
| 05:48.34 | Shirik | C++ was very nice to me |
| 05:48.45 | Shirik | when a program I was working with didn't know how to pass arrays of strings to C++ |
| 05:48.49 | Shirik | you know what C++ let me do? |
| 05:48.59 | Shirik | It let me pack the addresses of strings in a string |
| 05:49.05 | Shirik | and fake like it was just a string |
| 05:49.21 | Shirik | Java ain't got nothin on that! |
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| 06:41.29 | Jamash | every time you cast a pointer, baby jesus gets a rash |
| 06:41.48 | Shirik | that's why you use reinterpret_cast |
| 06:41.59 | Shirik | you aren't really casting it, you're just interpreting it differently :) |
| 06:43.09 | Jamash | c++ is to object-oriented programming what korean DVD player manuals are to English |
| 06:43.59 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:44.07 | Shirik | I like C++ |
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| 06:44.22 | Shirik | some of the most successful software is written in C++ |
| 06:44.27 | Shirik | Some of the worst software is also written in C++ |
| 06:44.38 | Shirik | It all depends on how you wield it |
| 06:46.29 | krka | well put Jamash |
| 06:46.49 | krka | or should i say: place the good was, Jamash |
| 06:46.54 | Jamash | haha |
| 06:47.16 | krka | <@Shirik> It all depends on how you wield it <-- that's what she said |
| 06:47.23 | Shirik | :P |
| 06:50.43 | Fisker- | i cast your mom |
| 06:50.45 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 06:50.47 | Jamash | I miss APL |
| 06:51.26 | Shirik | I miss Ada |
| 06:51.38 | Shirik | and by "miss" I mean "I need to learn it so I can miss it" |
| 06:52.42 | Jamash | My dad says that some contractors used to write their code in APL then translate it to ADA |
| 06:53.04 | krka | "C++ is good because you can do all sorts of weird hacks... not really safe, but _I_ know what I'm doing." |
| 06:53.04 | Jamash | s/ADA/Ada/ |
| 06:53.33 | krka | "Java is bad because it takes away all my clever hacks... but wait, I can still do weird abuse with reflection and casts, yay!" |
| 06:53.42 | Shirik | :P |
| 06:53.59 | Shirik | I showed you my awesome line right |
| 06:54.06 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
| 06:54.10 | Fisker- | YOU'RE FIRED |
| 06:54.27 | Jamash | "APL is good/bad because it lets me write anything in at most two lines." |
| 06:55.23 | Shirik | if ((Boolean) String.class.getMethod(strings_startsWith, String.class).invoke(Class.forName(strings_StackTraceElement).getMethod(strings_getClassName).invoke(Class.forName(strings_Array).getMethod(strings_get, Object.class, int.class).invoke(null, Class.forName(strings_Thread).getMethod(strings_getStackTrace).invoke(Class.forName(strings_Thread).getMethod(strings_currentThread).invoke(null)), i)), strings_MmouiSocke |
| 06:55.41 | krka | well abused |
| 06:55.54 | Shirik | :P |
| 06:55.55 | krka | i'm sure there is a JVM out there feeling violated and dirty now |
| 06:56.21 | Fisker- | fires krka as well |
| 06:56.38 | Shirik | revokes Fisker-'s troll privileges |
| 06:56.45 | krka | 1) why on earth would do that line? 2) what does it do? 3) why not split it up into several lines? |
| 06:56.49 | Jamash | I just found the worst rare mob ever. |
| 06:56.57 | Jamash | I killed it and it dropped a white item. |
| 06:56.59 | krka | hogger? |
| 06:57.07 | Shirik | It was intentional to break a decompiler, actually, krka. Long story |
| 06:57.20 | Jamash | Lost Soul in tirisfal |
| 06:57.56 | krka | you don't break decompilers from your own source |
| 06:57.59 | krka | you run an obfuscator |
| 06:58.16 | Shirik | It really does nothing more than call Thread.currentThread().getStackTrace()[i].equals(...) |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | krka, this is an auto-generated file :) |
| 06:58.31 | Shirik | If you think I really wrote that line you must think I'm crazy |
| 06:58.38 | krka | I do actually.. :/ |
| 06:59.50 | Shirik | the file itself is pretty epic |
| 06:59.59 | msou| | not sure how many times I did arenas but yesterday when I checked my emblems noticed I have over 7000 arena points |
| 07:00.02 | Shirik | and it's my own obfuscation script |
| 07:00.03 | Arrowmaster | i dont even begin to understand how to tell what the hell that line does |
| 07:00.05 | Shirik | well, first pass is |
| 07:00.09 | msou| | and on wowhead I see this item purchasable http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45950 |
| 07:00.14 | Arrowmaster | makes me not want to learn java even more |
| 07:00.17 | Shirik | it's like a preprocessor for an obfuscator |
| 07:00.25 | msou| | is there more requirements in order to get it? |
| 07:00.30 | Jamash | you should implement an Unlambda interpreter in Java, then nobody will be able to understand your code |
| 07:00.56 | Jamash | msou|: Requires personal and team arena rating of 2200 |
| 07:01.14 | Kaso | Shirik how much slower does that crap run than plain? |
| 07:01.27 | Shirik | Actually I haven't noticed a difference |
| 07:01.37 | msou| | Jamash: oh didn't notice that... not sure how to check those |
| 07:01.41 | Shirik | So it's sufficiently fast |
| 07:01.49 | Shirik | I'm not one for preemptive optimization |
| 07:02.08 | krka | just preemptive slowing things down? :) |
| 07:02.17 | Shirik | yes :P |
| 07:02.18 | msou| | all I know I have over 7000 arena points |
| 07:02.25 | Shirik | omg |
| 07:02.29 | Shirik | I got my computer at work today |
| 07:02.32 | msou| | had to get my epic glove to boost things up a little |
| 07:02.43 | Shirik | I say to myself "damn this thing booted fast" and went to check what it's running |
| 07:02.45 | msou| | gloves of the vanguisher or some such |
| 07:02.57 | Shirik | dual quad core xeons with 8GB RAM :/ |
| 07:03.02 | Shirik | kicks my computers' butts |
| 07:03.09 | Aqua | thats what i have right now |
| 07:03.09 | Arrowmaster | so you have 8 cores? |
| 07:03.18 | Aqua | mac pro... |
| 07:03.19 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:03.27 | Arrowmaster | i7 xeon? |
| 07:03.40 | Shirik | I didn't look that closely, but they're brand new |
| 07:03.52 | Jamash | I have to wonder what software can actually take advantage of 8 cores |
| 07:03.54 | Shirik | so I wouldn't be surprised |
| 07:03.58 | Arrowmaster | does the os think you have 16? |
| 07:04.03 | Shirik | I promise you, I can Jamash |
| 07:04.08 | Shirik | no, Arrowmaster, 8 |
| 07:04.36 | Arrowmaster | so either its not i7s or its a single i7 and not dual |
| 07:04.50 | Arrowmaster | but since you said 8gb of ram im guessing its not i7s |
| 07:04.53 | Shirik | Jamash: Doing a full compile will still take about an hour |
| 07:04.57 | Aqua | its probably not an i7 xeon |
| 07:04.59 | Jamash | yeesh |
| 07:05.23 | Shirik | But that also includes automated tests, etc. |
| 07:05.30 | Shirik | code generation |
| 07:05.57 | Arrowmaster | most good compilers and encoders can make full usage of as many cores as you have, its the consumer apps that all suck right now and are useless with more than one core |
| 07:06.36 | Shirik | yah |
| 07:10.21 | Aqua | god wow takes so long to get all the current updates |
| 07:10.34 | Aqua | i wish i wouldn't have built a new pc.... no reinstall required |
| 07:10.48 | Arrowmaster | you could have copied the old install over |
| 07:11.17 | Shirik | or kept the old drive |
| 07:11.22 | Aqua | true, but I was in the hospital when my pc got formated |
| 07:11.28 | Shirik | I have never thrown out a good drive |
| 07:11.37 | Aqua | a friend thought he'd "try and help me get it up and running" |
| 07:11.40 | Shirik | my 8GB drive from like 10 years ago is still in my current PC |
| 07:11.44 | Shirik | admittedly, it does nothing, but it's there |
| 07:11.47 | Arrowmaster | ive never 'thrown out' a drive peroid |
| 07:12.04 | Aqua | hey, i still have my packard belll 486 dx 4 running... |
| 07:12.13 | Shirik | omg! I still have it |
| 07:12.18 | Shirik | though I don't think it's running |
| 07:12.21 | Arrowmaster | i still have a 386 thats gets used |
| 07:12.21 | Shirik | 512MB hard drive baby! |
| 07:12.34 | Aqua | we all have legacy stuff |
| 07:12.36 | Jamash | I have a pair of 214MB hard drives |
| 07:12.37 | Shirik | with the turbo button |
| 07:12.42 | Jamash | I should set them up as a raid |
| 07:12.43 | Shirik | that I never knew what it did |
| 07:12.47 | Shirik | but it made a light turn on |
| 07:12.53 | Arrowmaster | turbo button was fun after winning soltaire |
| 07:13.31 | Shirik | what did it do |
| 07:14.13 | Arrowmaster | seriously microsoft needs to fix the animation after winning soltaire to not be based on cpu speed for win7 and it will be in the top 10 reasons to upgrade to win7 |
| 07:14.35 | Shirik | lool |
| 07:14.40 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: it changed the speed the cards bounced at |
| 07:15.03 | Aqua | hey, i'll be happy with MS and Win 7 when they add mkv support natively |
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| 07:15.10 | Arrowmaster | no you wont |
| 07:15.35 | Aqua | why because they will mess it up? |
| 07:15.38 | Arrowmaster | theyve completely broken 3rd party decoders for wmp and mce in win7 |
| 07:15.47 | Aqua | yea, i knew that |
| 07:15.54 | Aqua | I was playing around with the RC earlier |
| 07:15.59 | Arrowmaster | because they arent using directshow decoders anymore |
| 07:16.02 | Aqua | its got a big bug in it right now |
| 07:16.10 | Aqua | they are using dxva |
| 07:16.12 | Shirik | they dropped directshow? |
| 07:16.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:16.26 | Arrowmaster | using some media foundation thing now |
| 07:16.26 | Shirik | that seems like a horrible move |
| 07:16.47 | Shirik | there's a lot of image recognition software that relies on directshow |
| 07:16.48 | Aqua | the rc1 has a big issue with ATI drivers, and high bit rate video playback |
| 07:16.59 | Arrowmaster | well directshow is still supported but if a microsoft media foundation decoder exists it will be used |
| 07:17.07 | Shirik | ah |
| 07:17.17 | Shirik | so you can still put a directshow filter in the stack though |
| 07:17.27 | Aqua | they did that trusted installer crap |
| 07:17.28 | Arrowmaster | this is only in WMP and Media Center though |
| 07:17.39 | Arrowmaster | other players are uneffected |
| 07:17.46 | Arrowmaster | well mostly uneffected |
| 07:20.58 | Aqua | Last i looked, the codec's that are used by WMP and Media Center cannot be replaced like they did in vista, because of how they are installed into the registry using the trusted installer stuff they started in vista |
| 07:21.30 | Aqua | someone will come up with a way to beat it, when it becomes more main stream |
| 07:22.35 | Arrowmaster | they already have |
| 07:22.55 | Arrowmaster | you have to take ownership of the regestry keys then change them |
| 07:23.11 | Aqua | <--- has been out of the loop |
| 07:25.16 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:25.18 | Aqua | i'm personally waiting to see how cyberlink handles blu-ray integration |
| 07:25.18 | Shirik | time to go baibai |
| 07:25.19 | Shirik | night |
| 07:25.23 | Aqua | night |
| 07:25.27 | Aqua | <-- going to bed as well |
| 07:26.50 | Arrowmaster | well since blu-ray mostly uses either h264 or vc-1 and wmp has decoders for both, 3rd party players will either have to create directshow decoders and use those or add support for the media foundation decoders |
| 07:29.02 | Aqua | right now if your in media center (on windows 7 rc1) it launches cyberlink power dvd 8 or 9 and starts blu-ray playback |
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| 09:23.26 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: any major changes with this release? |
| 09:24.05 | msou| | that track thingie might solve what the problem I had |
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| 10:13.04 | batrick | Got most of my Lua sandbox for batbot written in C. Just a little more to go =) |
| 10:13.17 | batrick | Such an exercise |
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| 10:17.33 | jaxdahl2 | how can i extract/obtain the default blizzard UI code? |
| 10:18.59 | Jamash | ~addonkit |
| 10:19.00 | purl | Located at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 10:23.53 | ZorbaTHut | msou, buncha small bug fixes, some rewriting of the pathfinding core |
| 10:24.30 | msou| | o I see |
| 10:25.01 | msou| | sweet will install it when iget home |
| 10:25.33 | jaxdahl | tyvm Jamash |
| 10:25.43 | Jamash | you're welcome :) |
| 10:26.21 | msou| | ZorbaTHut: yesterday was the most enjoyable time playing wow. met some real cool players |
| 10:26.33 | msou| | they're from Finland too :P |
| 10:27.24 | msou| | I copied his talent tree, first time was playing with him I placed 4th. after the changes 3, 2,1, and 3 on heroics |
| 10:27.55 | msou| | thanks to him. he got me some glyphs too |
| 10:28.03 | ZorbaTHut | 3rd is sort of the minimum you should be on a heroic, since 4th and 5th are theoretically the tank and healer ;) |
| 10:28.15 | msou| | hehe yeah |
| 10:28.52 | msou| | he got my glyphs, I didn't know from where to get them. he got them from AH I think |
| 10:29.07 | msou| | I don't know if there is even better ones.. like green blue purple etc |
| 10:29.18 | Jamash | nah, there's only one quality of glyph |
| 10:29.22 | msou| | and I was third cause the rogue had epic items |
| 10:29.32 | msou| | Jamash: oh sweet! missing only two then =) |
| 10:30.12 | msou| | I got myself exalten in ebon blade and bought the feet epic armor, and exchange my emblems for gloves of the lost vanguisher |
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| 10:30.33 | msou| | working on the vest and the rest of it |
| 10:30.46 | msou| | not sure if I can do naxx normal yet |
| 10:30.54 | jaxdahl | function EquipmentManager_UnpackLocation (location) -- Use me, I'm here to be used. |
| 10:31.53 | Jamash | o rly |
| 10:33.01 | jnwhiteh | jaxdahl: what about it? |
| 10:33.14 | jaxdahl | just an amusing comment |
| 10:33.27 | jaxdahl | in blizzard code |
| 10:33.30 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 10:33.34 | jnwhiteh | well its a pain to do otherwise |
| 10:33.42 | jnwhiteh | I reverse engineered it before the equipment manager came out |
| 10:33.44 | jnwhiteh | and it sucked |
| 10:33.45 | jnwhiteh | but it worked =) |
| 10:33.50 | jnwhiteh | then they changed the bitfields on me |
| 10:34.01 | Jamash | aw |
| 10:34.09 | jnwhiteh | so now I use that in DressToKill |
| 10:34.41 | jaxdahl | i wonder if someone will update itemrack |
| 10:34.46 | jaxdahl | i don't think it's been updated in over a year |
| 10:35.55 | jnwhiteh | not much need to |
| 10:36.04 | jnwhiteh | the EM does a good enough job |
| 10:36.23 | jaxdahl | oh hey he updated it last month |
| 10:36.35 | jaxdahl | well i like the event support that itemrack has |
| 10:37.07 | jaxdahl | and liked being able to move sets in and out of the bank with a click |
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| 10:40.30 | jaxdahl | am i missing something or is localization stuff stripped in the addon kit thingy? |
| 10:41.54 | Jamash | stripped? |
| 10:42.43 | jaxdahl | well i'm trying to find the phrase "equipment manager" |
| 10:42.50 | jaxdahl | maybe i should use something besides windows search |
| 10:43.32 | jaxdahl | ahh, GlobalStrings.lua |
| 10:44.03 | Jamash | Windows Search on Vista will ignore files it doesn't think are text, I believe |
| 10:44.16 | jnwhiteh | but writint event support abd set moving USING equipment manager is trivial. |
| 10:44.18 | jnwhiteh | so just do that? |
| 10:46.03 | jaxdahl | Jamash, it just sucks that's all. i fired up cygwin and used good ol' grep |
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| 10:48.00 | Jamash | that works |
| 10:49.09 | a_nil_value | Jamash: theres a grep build that works with the windows command line |
| 10:50.04 | jaxdahl | a_nil_value, too lazy to get that and install it, but thanks |
| 10:50.23 | a_nil_value | easier than mounting your windows drive in cygwin :/ |
| 10:51.23 | zenzio | for searching in files, most semi-advanced editors have their own "Find in files" function |
| 10:51.34 | Jamash | yeah I use the one in SciTE |
| 10:51.52 | jaxdahl | a_nil_value, no need to do that, it gets automatically mounted at /cgydrive/<driveletter>/ |
| 10:54.37 | Jamash | I used to do QA for games, and I was mortified today to realize that I needed to create and follow a test plan for my addon before uploading the new version |
| 10:55.23 | AnduinLothar | lulz, who does that :P |
| 10:55.31 | Jamash | apparently I do |
| 10:55.38 | Jamash | I found two bugs, so it was a good thing |
| 10:55.41 | batrick | jnwhiteh: clad you want to see this C sandbox? It's nearly complete except for serialization. |
| 10:55.47 | jaxdahl | just upload the addon and if you don't get angry comments or emails, it's not broken, or nobody is using it |
| 10:55.53 | jnwhiteh | batrick: sure! |
| 10:55.56 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
| 10:56.31 | batrick | jnwhiteh: batbytes.com/sandbox.c |
| 10:58.32 | jaxdahl | what is the intended use of this sandbox |
| 10:59.00 | jnwhiteh | batrick: looks pretty solid |
| 10:59.06 | jnwhiteh | does it handle memory limits? |
| 10:59.12 | jnwhiteh | i saw the execution limit |
| 10:59.15 | batrick | jaxdahl: batbot lua execution environment |
| 10:59.18 | batrick | jnwhiteh: yes |
| 10:59.23 | batrick | check out sb_malloc |
| 10:59.24 | ZorbaTHut | stupid wow, being down. :( |
| 10:59.26 | batrick | sb_alloc* |
| 10:59.37 | jaxdahl | ZorbaTHut, ptr is still up |
| 10:59.38 | jnwhiteh | nice |
| 10:59.50 | Jamash | I wuvs the PTR |
| 10:59.51 | batrick | It uses Lua to enforce it so it's one less thing to force remaking the sandbox. |
| 11:00.06 | jnwhiteh | only thing I would say, is that right now it looks like the libraries included are static |
| 11:00.07 | Jamash | I spend hundreds, maybe thousands of gold on respecs while testing so it's a godsend. |
| 11:00.22 | jnwhiteh | and it clears some things I might want to give access to |
| 11:00.25 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect by the time I have the PTR updated, the main server will be back up :P |
| 11:00.30 | jnwhiteh | any reason that can't be more customizable |
| 11:00.37 | jnwhiteh | otherwise, it seems to be a fantastic solution |
| 11:00.42 | batrick | It could be... just need to code it. |
| 11:00.45 | jaxdahl | ZorbaTHut, it's only a 993mb patch! |
| 11:00.47 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 11:00.53 | jnwhiteh | gimme a way to whitelist functions |
| 11:00.58 | jnwhiteh | and clear absolutely everything else |
| 11:01.02 | jnwhiteh | and it'll be win =) |
| 11:01.08 | ZorbaTHut | hey, looks like I'm already updated somehow |
| 11:01.10 | jnwhiteh | yay, i've been waiting for this for a while :P |
| 11:01.17 | ZorbaTHut | I'm actually quite surprised. no characters on the server, but hey |
| 11:01.57 | jaxdahl | ZorbaTHut, premades |
| 11:02.02 | jaxdahl | they copy in under a minute |
| 11:02.06 | ZorbaTHut | oh nice |
| 11:02.09 | ZorbaTHut | <3 jax |
| 11:02.42 | Grum | i wish you could have access to a cleaned dungeon as a premade |
| 11:02.46 | a_nil_value | bah |
| 11:02.50 | a_nil_value | only broxigar is up |
| 11:03.03 | jaxdahl | Grum, what for |
| 11:03.40 | Jamash | I wish I could have access to a lot of things on the PTR |
| 11:03.50 | Jamash | like the ability to grant my characters levels |
| 11:04.40 | batrick | jnwhiteh: I probably won't go and do that since I consider it static. I whitelist only functions that can't mess with the system. Also, since you will likely compile it yourself and removing functions is fairly easy, I don't see a reason to make it customizable from Lua. |
| 11:04.59 | jnwhiteh | just because I will customize it myself |
| 11:05.00 | batrick | I'll let you know when I finish it. |
| 11:05.09 | jnwhiteh | I don't understand |
| 11:05.10 | jnwhiteh | but fine |
| 11:05.12 | batrick | Well feel free to change it when I'm done :P |
| 11:05.16 | jnwhiteh | its just less useful like this |
| 11:05.25 | jnwhiteh | require("sandbox") |
| 11:05.37 | jnwhiteh | there's no reason this shouldn't be a widely available library via luarocks |
| 11:05.41 | jnwhiteh | everyone needs something like it |
| 11:05.46 | jnwhiteh | or rather, many people do |
| 11:06.35 | jnwhiteh | just don't see why you'd limit it like that but *shrug* |
| 11:06.36 | batrick | hmm, well I wasn't planning on releasing it to anybody other than those who ask for it. |
| 11:06.43 | jnwhiteh | well I think that's a bit silly |
| 11:06.48 | jnwhiteh | its incredibly useful to the community at large |
| 11:06.49 | batrick | but I guess I might go ahead and do it if it would be useful to the general public |
| 11:06.50 | jnwhiteh | so why would you hold it back? |
| 11:06.57 | jnwhiteh | I get asked for my sandbox roughly once per week |
| 11:07.09 | jnwhiteh | its incredibly useful to the Lua community |
| 11:07.15 | batrick | ok ok! |
| 11:07.17 | batrick | lol |
| 11:07.19 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 11:14.06 | Jamash | hm, I should add a screenshot of my new system message spam filter to my description page |
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| 11:16.36 | jnwhiteh | batrick: what does the usage look like? |
| 11:17.43 | batrick | Usage? |
| 11:17.55 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:18.03 | batrick | I don't understand your question |
| 11:18.09 | jnwhiteh | s = sandbox(); s:execute("for i=1,10 do print(i) end") |
| 11:18.12 | jnwhiteh | closes my lua interpreter |
| 11:18.33 | batrick | umm, return values are a little messy right now but |
| 11:18.40 | batrick | the second return value should show everything printed |
| 11:18.52 | jnwhiteh | there is no return value |
| 11:18.55 | jnwhiteh | my interpreter hard closes. |
| 11:19.01 | batrick | I'll look at it |
| 11:19.11 | jnwhiteh | okay, just curious if i was doing something wrong |
| 11:20.00 | batrick | redownload it |
| 11:20.04 | batrick | (it works for me atm) |
| 11:20.59 | batrick | You need to add a second value to execute, a microseconds value for how long it can execute |
| 11:21.07 | jnwhiteh | yes, i did that |
| 11:21.11 | jnwhiteh | that's what breaks |
| 11:21.15 | jnwhiteh | > s:execute("for i=1,10 do print(i) end", 1000) |
| 11:21.15 | jnwhiteh | [jnwhiteh@artificialtruth] /tmp> |
| 11:21.25 | batrick | > s=sandbox(); return s:execute("print'hi'", 2e6);READYDONE hi |
| 11:21.32 | batrick | grr that got concatenated |
| 11:22.08 | batrick | what OS are you using |
| 11:22.28 | jnwhiteh | that was mac os x |
| 11:22.31 | jnwhiteh | testing on debian now |
| 11:23.02 | jnwhiteh | same issue |
| 11:23.09 | batrick | it works on my debian box /sigh |
| 11:23.40 | jnwhiteh | weird |
| 11:23.42 | jnwhiteh | getting something diff now. |
| 11:23.50 | batrick | can you compile it with -g and see if you are getting some sort of terminal signal? |
| 11:24.02 | batrick | (using gdb to run it) |
| 11:26.52 | jnwhiteh | broken pipe |
| 11:26.55 | batrick | You should note that 1 millisecond is too short for anything I think. |
| 11:26.58 | batrick | but it shouldn't cause that |
| 11:27.02 | batrick | odd |
| 11:27.19 | jnwhiteh | > s = sandbox(); print(s:execute("for i=1,10 do print(i) end", 2000)) |
| 11:27.20 | jnwhiteh | READYCERROR: not enough memory |
| 11:27.21 | jnwhiteh | EBADMAIN: not enough memory |
| 11:27.23 | batrick | In that case the child process died, you need to do |
| 11:27.25 | jnwhiteh | thats what i get on my debian box |
| 11:27.35 | batrick | hmm |
| 11:28.20 | batrick | You should have unlimited memory if you didn't supply arguments to sandbox() |
| 11:28.49 | batrick | (it is currently the second argument, first arg is unused) |
| 11:29.00 | batrick | Try it with a memory argument |
| 11:29.05 | jnwhiteh | did |
| 11:29.06 | jnwhiteh | 1e7 |
| 11:29.09 | jnwhiteh | same issue |
| 11:29.12 | batrick | sandbox(nil, 2e6) |
| 11:29.14 | jnwhiteh | i had to remove the libraries you had |
| 11:29.18 | jnwhiteh | because id ont have them |
| 11:29.21 | jnwhiteh | but that's the only thing i changed |
| 11:29.45 | jnwhiteh | no worries |
| 11:29.47 | jnwhiteh | you can get back to work |
| 11:29.49 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.49 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.52 | jnwhiteh | i've got plenty of other things to mess with |
| 11:29.55 | batrick | that looks right to me... you? |
| 11:30.05 | jnwhiteh | yeah it does |
| 11:30.12 | batrick | weird. |
| 11:30.39 | Grum | such hacks, picking an arbitrarily large number as 'unlimited' |
| 11:30.56 | batrick | Lua does the same thing. |
| 11:31.22 | jaxdahl | don't be a sheep, use something novel for 'unlimited' such as exp(pi) |
| 11:31.27 | batrick | In fact, it's fairly common. The max value of size_t is going to exceed the amount of bytes your process could ever have allocated. |
| 11:31.45 | foxlit | Oh, that changes everything. |
| 11:31.47 | jaxdahl | "640k should be enough for anyone' |
| 11:31.55 | jaxdahl | or something along those lines |
| 11:31.59 | Spellbinder | rofl |
| 11:32.02 | foxlit | If it's fairly common, it must be fine :) |
| 11:32.03 | Spellbinder | bill gates |
| 11:32.16 | foxlit | *cough*misattributed*cough* |
| 11:32.21 | batrick | no, if it's fairly common (in open software), it must be right. |
| 11:33.16 | zenzio | is this C or C++? |
| 11:35.16 | ZorbaTHut | probably C, although the same code is equally correct in both languages |
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| 11:35.48 | zenzio | I've stopped trying to compare validity in C and C++, since I only follow C++ |
| 11:35.58 | batrick | jnwhiteh: It's possible sb_alloc is wrong. Can you look at it really quick? I think the "long long int t" part may be encountering an overflow for you. |
| 11:37.00 | batrick | Actually that's probably it, because I forgot to cast one of the values to a signed type. |
| 11:37.41 | jnwhiteh | yeah i don't see anything specific |
| 11:37.50 | jnwhiteh | but i'm a bit distracted at the moment |
| 11:38.13 | batrick | redownload it... hopefully works now |
| 11:38.16 | batrick | np |
| 11:40.19 | jnwhiteh | broken pipe now |
| 11:40.55 | batrick | going to need to use gdb and use command: "set follow-fork-mode child" |
| 11:40.59 | batrick | then should tell you how the child died |
| 11:41.40 | jnwhiteh | Lua 5.1.4 Copyright (C) 1994-2008 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 11:41.40 | jnwhiteh | > require("sandbox") |
| 11:41.41 | jnwhiteh | > s = sandbox() |
| 11:41.43 | jnwhiteh | > |
| 11:41.45 | jnwhiteh | Program exited normally. |
| 11:42.00 | jnwhiteh | with set follow-fork-mode child set |
| 11:42.36 | batrick | Check returns to sandbox, might be nil + error message |
| 11:42.51 | jaxdahl | maybe i'm doing something dumb but how do you compile this? gcc -o sandbox sandbox.c ? |
| 11:43.03 | batrick | gcc -fPIC -g -shared -o sandbox.so sandbox.c |
| 11:43.26 | jaxdahl | perfect |
| 11:43.45 | batrick | jnwhiteh: If you want to debug this later I can just keep doing other things. |
| 11:43.47 | batrick | since you're busy |
| 11:43.57 | batrick | jaxdahl: let me know if it works |
| 11:44.02 | batrick | please |
| 11:44.06 | jnwhiteh | i can also just give you access on the box if you want |
| 11:44.07 | jnwhiteh | later |
| 11:44.28 | batrick | kk |
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| 11:44.54 | jnwhiteh | but when I checked the returns |
| 11:44.56 | jnwhiteh | it was just the userdata |
| 11:45.07 | batrick | k |
| 11:49.12 | jaxdahl | oh, btw, i had to replace useconds_t with long on my system |
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| 12:06.06 | batrick | jaxdahl: why? |
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| 12:43.24 | batrick | woot got serialization done |
| 12:43.54 | nevcairiel | serializes batrick |
| 12:44.34 | stolenlegacy | serializes woot. |
| 12:44.36 | Grum | s7batrick! |
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| 12:45.33 | jaxdahl | batrick: sandbox.c:326: error: `useconds_t' undeclared (first use in this function) |
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| 12:50.48 | batrick | It should be included in unistd.h |
| 12:51.02 | batrick | Add #include <sys/types.h> at the top |
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| 15:06.42 | p3lim | I have two statusbars, bar1 and bar2. Bar2 is anchored to bar1 and is supposed to be beneath it |
| 15:06.57 | p3lim | Ive tried SetFrameLevel but it doesnt work |
| 15:07.11 | p3lim | right now the bar1 (the parent) gets hidden completely |
| 15:07.37 | mikma | hehe |
| 15:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, check in with Seerah? |
| 15:08.13 | p3lim | mikma: you know anyting? |
| 15:08.48 | mikma | not with that info |
| 15:08.55 | p3lim | ill give you a pastey |
| 15:08.56 | p3lim | sec |
| 15:09.25 | ckknight | Cairenn|afk: ping |
| 15:09.30 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: afkish, she didn't respond to my ping |
| 15:09.42 | foxlit | So, .2 is live. |
| 15:09.53 | mikma | 3.2 or 3.1.2? :D |
| 15:09.57 | foxlit | .1.2 |
| 15:11.22 | Lopeppeppy | So many sleepies, so little time. |
| 15:11.29 | p3lim | mikma: http://pastey.net/114525 |
| 15:12.30 | p3lim | mikma: yes I forgot the statusbar textures there, but you get the idea |
| 15:13.21 | foxlit | The first rule of FrameLevel is that you never use FrameLevel. |
| 15:13.41 | Grum | that is just odd |
| 15:13.53 | foxlit | It's not for you(tm). |
| 15:13.54 | Grum | i'd say it doesnt work because you make the frame 'below it' |
| 15:14.16 | Grum | create it in the opposite order and it will just work (and you get a FrameLevel()+1) |
| 15:15.11 | foxlit | Seriously, though, keep away from FrameLevel. That stuff is volatile, you'll mess up no matter what you do. |
| 15:15.17 | p3lim | Grum: that pastey is just an example, it must be created in that order |
| 15:15.30 | foxlit | If you're trying to establish an "a below b" relationship, adjust parenting or stratas. |
| 15:15.41 | Grum | you only have so many level for strats |
| 15:15.56 | Grum | and does parenting indeed handle the order foxlit? |
| 15:16.31 | Grum | p3lim: then later on do: bar1:SetFrameLevel( bar2:GetFrameLevel()+1 ) |
| 15:17.34 | mikma | yeah do that, i'm off ^^ |
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| 15:18.24 | p3lim | well, bar2 must be a parent of bar1 |
| 15:18.44 | p3lim | or the other way? |
| 15:18.45 | Grum | a child i presume? |
| 15:19.08 | p3lim | the parent is the highest? |
| 15:19.16 | p3lim | im so confused at all this right now :s |
| 15:19.27 | foxlit | children appear above their parents. |
| 15:19.39 | Grum | foxlit: even if you change the strata? |
| 15:19.46 | Grum | parent should be lowest |
| 15:19.53 | foxlit | Go test. |
| 15:19.56 | p3lim | so setting bar2 as the parent of bar1 should do it? |
| 15:20.13 | foxlit | Strata is for resolving which of the two *unrelated* frames should appear on top of the other. |
| 15:20.18 | Grum | child |
| 15:20.36 | Grum | besides. framelevel does work :p |
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| 15:21.45 | p3lim | this doesnt work at all |
| 15:22.04 | Grum | what do you want to do? bar2 has to be below bar1? |
| 15:22.27 | p3lim | yes |
| 15:22.36 | p3lim | and it must be created after bar1 |
| 15:23.18 | p3lim | create bar1, create bar2, make bar2 overlay bar1 |
| 15:23.26 | Grum | errr |
| 15:23.32 | Grum | you are messing it up over and over |
| 15:23.46 | Grum | which one do you want to see if they are both the same sizes and positioned ontop of eachother? |
| 15:23.49 | Grum | bar1 or 2? |
| 15:23.54 | Grum | you have alternated between them over and over now :D |
| 15:24.15 | p3lim | im so confused :p |
| 15:24.17 | p3lim | sec |
| 15:24.22 | p3lim | bar1 is the main bar |
| 15:24.27 | p3lim | it should be on top |
| 15:24.34 | Grum | so you dont see bar2 |
| 15:24.38 | p3lim | no |
| 15:24.40 | Grum | unless bar1 doesnt overlap it |
| 15:24.41 | p3lim | i dont see bar1 :p |
| 15:24.52 | Grum | so it should be on the bottom << |
| 15:24.59 | p3lim | yes |
| 15:25.01 | Grum | cmon! its not that hard, think of a stack of papers |
| 15:25.07 | ZorbaTHut | who's on first? |
| 15:25.15 | Grum | bar1 is the bottom paper, you dont see it unless you remove bar2 which is lying ontop of it |
| 15:25.17 | AckisWork | who/ |
| 15:25.30 | p3lim | i dont want to remove it, I want to put it behind |
| 15:25.36 | p3lim | :3 |
| 15:25.51 | Grum | and now explain what 'it' is in this case :D |
| 15:25.57 | p3lim | bar2 |
| 15:26.27 | Grum | so you dont see bar2 as it is behind bar1 |
| 15:26.30 | p3lim | when I try to make bar2 stay behind bar1 bar1 disappears : |
| 15:26.32 | p3lim | :S |
| 15:26.39 | Grum | so bar2 'should' be the parent of bar1 |
| 15:27.19 | Grum | at least according to foxlit :D |
| 15:27.29 | Grum | so: bar1:SetParent(bar2) and that should solve it |
| 15:27.52 | Grum | is there any reason you have to create bar1 first? |
| 15:28.12 | p3lim | different functions |
| 15:28.39 | Grum | that is no reason :) |
| 15:28.40 | p3lim | (its about oUF plug-ins, bar1 would be run from the layout, bar2 from the plug-in) |
| 15:28.52 | p3lim | layout is loaded before the plug-in |
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| 15:28.58 | Grum | ah k, no control over bar1 would be a reason ;) |
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| 15:29.58 | p3lim | but now they are parented to eachother |
| 15:30.13 | p3lim | bar1 is parented to bar2, and bar2 is parented to bar1 |
| 15:30.15 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:30.59 | Grum | how? |
| 15:31.16 | p3lim | bar2 was parented to bar1 in the first place |
| 15:31.18 | Grum | dont parent bar2 to bar1 then silly;) |
| 15:31.35 | p3lim | tried reparenting bar2 to UIParent, still cant see bar1 at all |
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| 15:32.52 | p3lim | i added alpha to bar2's statusbarcolor, I cant see bar1 behind it or anything (it has a different color and texture) |
| 15:33.04 | alestane | p3lim: I'm pretty sure the WoW frame engine prevents parentage loops from occurring. |
| 15:33.13 | p3lim | alestane: yep, it did |
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| 15:35.17 | batrick | !lua print'hi' |
| 15:35.25 | batrick | hrm :( |
| 15:35.43 | Grum | boom:( |
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| 15:35.51 | batrick | works in other channels |
| 15:35.52 | batrick | !lua 1 |
| 15:35.53 | batbot | batrick: 1 |
| 15:35.53 | Grum | lua> print'hithar' |
| 15:35.54 | lua_bot | Grum: hithar |
| 15:35.56 | batrick | there we go! |
| 15:36.13 | batrick | batbot has been officially upgraded ^_^ |
| 15:36.46 | Grum | from what to what? |
| 15:37.26 | batrick | New sandbox |
| 15:37.42 | batrick | http://batbytes.com/sandbox.c |
| 15:38.31 | Grum | does it have cool shapes to play with!? |
| 15:39.14 | Lopeppeppy | I gave it a new red shovel. |
| 15:39.23 | Grum | \o/ |
| 15:39.33 | Grum | i want a matching bucket |
| 15:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | No bukkit. |
| 15:39.43 | Grum | BUYAKA! |
| 15:39.44 | a_nil_value | I lost my bukkit :( |
| 15:39.45 | Lopeppeppy | Bukkits all were stolen, did you not know. |
| 15:39.56 | Grum | i did not :'( |
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| 15:41.32 | p3lim | shit wont work :< |
| 15:41.46 | Lopeppeppy | It rarely does. |
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| 15:47.26 | kneeki | GRRR! Windows permissions really piss me off sometimes |
| 15:48.37 | Osstia | kneeki, i hear ya |
| 15:48.45 | Grum | then dont use them? |
| 15:48.47 | Grum | superuser ftw! |
| 15:49.18 | kneeki | I set up a shared folder with Everyone -> Read/write. I attempt to copy data to it from a network location 'You do not have permissions to perform this action...' |
| 15:49.49 | Osstia | are you actually authenticating? or are you using guest? |
| 15:50.18 | kneeki | I'm sharing with everyone on the domain, regardless of their login |
| 15:50.51 | kneeki | Everyone -> Full access, Domain Admins&Users -> Full Access |
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| 15:56.38 | zenzelezz | everyone has full access, but some have fuller access than others |
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| 15:59.00 | kneeki | Even mapping that whore share location forcing the login as a domain admin, still no permissions. |
| 15:59.05 | kneeki | hate, it fills me. |
| 15:59.22 | zenzelezz | with the burning intensity of a thousand desert suns? |
| 16:00.04 | alestane | kneeki: What are the folder's local permissions? |
| 16:00.54 | alestane | One of the things I've had to deal with sharing things from Linux is the difference between what network users are allowed to do to the share, and what the local users they're mapped to are allowed to do to the folder served as the share. |
| 16:00.57 | Industrial | Is there an addon you can have an unlimited ignore list with? |
| 16:01.54 | kneeki | Mhmm |
| 16:01.59 | Industrial | meh guess its server bound to let the other player know they are ignored |
| 16:02.07 | Industrial | just not showing messages would be possible |
| 16:02.22 | zenzelezz | I think there are such addons |
| 16:02.40 | Industrial | I'll need a limited timeframe ignore then (eg 1 day) |
| 16:02.40 | zenzelezz | at least people on the trade channel seem to say so every time a fight over spamming breaks out |
| 16:03.04 | kneeki | I wonder if I click try again enough times, it will just tell me to F off |
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| 16:11.32 | foxlit | !api HandleModifiedItemClick |
| 16:11.32 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'HandleModifiedItemClick'. |
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| 16:15.38 | kneeki | The only way to verify the credentials of a shared folder in windows is to map that drive, and log in, correct? |
| 16:16.58 | k1net1k_ | thats the least pain free way |
| 16:17.13 | kneeki | grumbles... |
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| 16:25.27 | Gnarfoz | ~seen cairenn|afk |
| 16:25.28 | purl | cairenn|afk is currently on #waruidev #wowuidev #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3d 6m 52s, last said: 'everyone ready for the insanity in the next 45 mins?'. |
| 16:25.33 | Cairenn|afk | hi |
| 16:25.41 | Gnarfoz | nice last quote |
| 16:25.43 | Gnarfoz | ;> |
| 16:25.56 | Cairenn|afk | huh? |
| 16:26.06 | Gnarfoz | ---^ purl |
| 16:26.15 | Cairenn|afk | ah |
| 16:26.28 | Gnarfoz | anyway, to not waste your time: can I bother you for a WoWUIDev cloak? :) |
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| 16:26.45 | Cairenn|afk | yes, but can you give me a few minutes? |
| 16:26.45 | zenzelezz | she dropped tailoring, sorry |
| 16:26.48 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 16:27.03 | AckisWork | what's my cloak? |
| 16:27.04 | durcyn | get in line, i asked for a cloak a year ago :< |
| 16:27.05 | nevcairiel | force him to wear his curse username, imho |
| 16:27.28 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: sorry, just capes for you |
| 16:27.32 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: diaf :( |
| 16:27.46 | zenzelezz | what's his curse username? |
| 16:27.56 | Gnarfoz | you don't wanna know |
| 16:27.57 | nevcairiel | its funny how curse is unable to rename a person =P |
| 16:28.23 | Tristanian | whats so hard about it ? :P |
| 16:28.28 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't even meet their current account name restrictions ^^ |
| 16:28.45 | zenzelezz | bigduck83? |
| 16:28.50 | Gnarfoz | nah, that'd be valid |
| 16:28.54 | Gnarfoz | starts with a number |
| 16:28.55 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 16:28.56 | nevcairiel | that would be an upgrade in name, too |
| 16:29.11 | zenzelezz | 7of9? |
| 16:29.24 | Gnarfoz | also, it has camel case, for added leetness |
| 16:29.49 | zenzelezz | I don't have much reason to complain about years-old mistakes when choosing nick names |
| 16:30.04 | Lunessa | cloaks are nice. :) Mine is lined with velvet. :P |
| 16:30.08 | nevcairiel | ~nickometer 8tImER |
| 16:30.16 | nevcairiel | hm i would've guessed more |
| 16:30.17 | zenzelezz | O_O |
| 16:30.19 | Gnarfoz | that's... better than I expected |
| 16:30.25 | zenzelezz | ~nickometer zenzelezz |
| 16:30.29 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 16:30.33 | zenzelezz | fail |
| 16:30.34 | Osstia | wow |
| 16:30.40 | Gnarfoz | ~nickometer nevcairiel |
| 16:30.42 | Osstia | thats a lot of zeros |
| 16:30.44 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 16:30.44 | durcyn | it only checks for caps, numbers, and special characters |
| 16:30.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 16:30.59 | durcyn | so lower case ascii is golden |
| 16:31.16 | nevcairiel | also some keywords |
| 16:31.17 | nevcairiel | like |
| 16:31.20 | nevcairiel | ~nickometer ckknight |
| 16:31.30 | ckknight | cause it has knight in it |
| 16:31.33 | zenzelezz | ~nickometer purl |
| 16:31.35 | ckknight | which is my last name |
| 16:31.37 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:32.06 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: obvious bias ;p |
| 16:32.16 | foxlit | lua> function f(...) return select("#", (...)); end print(f()); |
| 16:32.16 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1 |
| 16:32.29 | nicoli_s | ~nicknometer nicoli_s |
| 16:32.36 | nicoli_s | ~nickometer nicoli_s |
| 16:32.40 | kneeki | wtf! |
| 16:32.46 | Gnarfoz | underscore :p |
| 16:32.49 | nicoli_s | 14?!?!? i demand teh recount |
| 16:32.50 | kneeki | Windows Vista SP1's firewall blocks pings? |
| 16:32.53 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.58 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:33.04 | nevcairiel | who has that one on anyway? |
| 16:33.05 | alestane | lua> function f(...) return select("#", ...); end print(f()); |
| 16:33.05 | lua_bot | alestane: 0 |
| 16:33.07 | kneeki | AND it blocks mapping network drives |
| 16:33.09 | Gnarfoz | nicoli_s: http://www.wowace.com/projects/recount/ ;p |
| 16:33.10 | Seerah | ~nickometer Seerah |
| 16:33.13 | durcyn | windows firewall has blocked ICMP since forever |
| 16:33.16 | kneeki | nevcairiel, Windows update turned it back on |
| 16:33.19 | Seerah | :) |
| 16:33.23 | zenzelezz | agrees with purl |
| 16:33.30 | Seerah | ~botsnack |
| 16:33.30 | purl | thanks, Seerah |
| 16:33.32 | nevcairiel | also, get sp2 already |
| 16:36.14 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/18/funny-pictures-clarity-for-jake/ |
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| 16:37.19 | AckisWork | has gotten 5 CPE's today!!! 115 left |
| 16:39.38 | nicoli_s | CPE? |
| 16:39.48 | durcyn | customer premises equipment, obviously |
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| 16:42.34 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that |
| 16:42.53 | Gnarfoz | I also doubt it's the Cambridge ESOL Certificate for Proficiency in English, since you only need one of those |
| 16:43.15 | durcyn | ~wtf CPE |
| 16:43.16 | nevcairiel | ackis needs at least 120 |
| 16:43.35 | AckisWork | CPE == Continuing Professional Education |
| 16:43.38 | AckisWork | ~dict CISSP |
| 16:43.54 | AckisWork | ~wiki CISSP |
| 16:43.54 | nevcairiel | you can count education? |
| 16:43.56 | Fisker- | i agree with durcyn |
| 16:43.58 | durcyn | loses all respect for cissp certification |
| 16:44.03 | Fisker- | CPE usually Customer Premises Equipment |
| 16:44.18 | AckisWork | durcyn: like you know what it is :P |
| 16:44.20 | durcyn | actually, cissp never meant much to start with |
| 16:44.35 | AckisWork | aye, but it's the only one that was out there |
| 16:44.37 | durcyn | it's the MCSE of security |
| 16:45.05 | Fisker- | i always confuse it as "MSCE" |
| 16:45.09 | Fisker- | But fortunately it's MCP now |
| 16:45.10 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 16:46.03 | durcyn | AckisWork: what makes you think i wouldn't know what it means? |
| 16:47.10 | AckisWork | durcyn: not many people do |
| 16:47.21 | AckisWork | they're like 'wot'? |
| 16:47.49 | durcyn | i've been doing network security since you were in diapers, bucko. which was probably very recently, but hey =P |
| 16:47.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:48.13 | AckisWork | durcyn: pfft who says I don't wear them now... diapers are win |
| 16:48.14 | AckisWork | :D |
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| 16:59.12 | kneeki | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/5/18/ |
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| 17:10.25 | AckisWork | haha I had the equivalent to a forum blue PM me for the wowtcg stuff... at the middle of april... and I just responded. forums suck |
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| 17:10.52 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 17:11.45 | AckisWork | imma dumbass |
| 17:11.47 | AckisWork | like you |
| 17:11.47 | AckisWork | Fisker-: |
| 17:11.50 | AckisWork | penis |
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| 17:28.03 | Lunessa | durcyn: Are you horning in on my "geezer" status? |
| 17:28.37 | durcyn | Lunessa: nosir, just insulting a canadian |
| 17:28.48 | Lunessa | Very well, carry on. |
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| 17:39.04 | Cairenn|afk | awww! baby geeses! |
| 17:40.08 | End | according to google, my browser is a cat |
| 17:40.10 | Thunder_Child | sounds like lunch |
| 17:46.37 | AckisWork | lol Cairenn|afk |
| 17:46.42 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
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| 17:53.36 | Taroven | ...You know your music directory is getting out of hand when it takes Winamp 5 minutes to do a rescan for two deleted items. |
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| 17:58.41 | KarlKFI | I found that my music directory had asexually reproduced a smaller copy of itself in an adjacent folder |
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| 17:59.10 | KarlKFI | is a baby killer |
| 17:59.10 | Taroven | That's almost disturbing to think of. |
| 17:59.23 | Taroven | Clubbin' baby songs? |
| 17:59.27 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
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| 18:05.38 | AckisWork | hah http://www.mallerypress.com/rudcatofday.html |
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| 18:17.13 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: http://www.mallerypress.com/rudcatofday.html |
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| 18:18.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh jeebus. |
| 18:19.03 | KarlKFI | funny |
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| 18:26.17 | Industrial | we dont have those machines here :P what goes in one o_O? |
| 18:26.26 | Industrial | like what kind of trash |
| 18:26.43 | AckisWork | cats! |
| 18:27.54 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.57 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.01 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.17 | AckisWork | Industrial: it just kinda grinds up/shreds food type waste |
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| 18:32.37 | Thunder_Child | hmm...wow doesnt seem to regenerate it's reg keys in win 7 |
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| 18:34.11 | AckisWork | i'm raiding ulduar 25 man tonight for the first time... how hard if flame leviathon? |
| 18:35.27 | Osstia | not hard at all |
| 18:35.31 | Thunder_Child | AckisWork, depends on gear. but in general it's a boss that can be pugged |
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| 18:36.48 | AckisWork | ah |
| 18:36.53 | AckisWork | I just have issues with vehicles |
| 18:37.08 | AckisWork | the drakes in maly caused me a lot of issues because I couldn't place myself spatially |
| 18:37.38 | Osstia | i hated the vehicle portion of Maly, this is much closer to strand or WG |
| 18:37.52 | Osstia | if you have used those vehicles, this shouldn't be much different |
| 18:37.59 | AckisWork | ah kk |
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| 18:38.08 | AckisWork | what does the passenger in the chopper do? |
| 18:38.20 | Osstia | nothing |
| 18:38.25 | Thunder_Child | gets a lift |
| 18:38.28 | Osstia | the chopper only picks up passangers if they need a ride |
| 18:38.37 | Osstia | the driver can use a vehicle ability to top off their health |
| 18:38.50 | AckisWork | oh so not everyone is in a vehicle then |
| 18:38.55 | Osstia | normally you would pick them up, and drop them off at a demolisher |
| 18:39.07 | Osstia | demolisher's launch people on top of leviathon |
| 18:39.16 | Osstia | that should be the only time someone is not in a vehicle |
| 18:39.26 | Osstia | when they blow up his turrents, they get knocked off |
| 18:39.40 | durcyn | not in a vehicle outside of stun == dead |
| 18:39.50 | Osstia | they will died fast unless they get in a vehicle. so either a demlosisher ot a chopper picks them up |
| 18:40.03 | AckisWork | ah ok |
| 18:40.09 | AckisWork | missed that part when I read it |
| 18:41.07 | Osstia | i have been the choppers more than anything |
| 18:41.19 | Osstia | i like them, and the siege tank gunner spot |
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| 18:44.24 | durcyn | rolling pyrite in a demolisher is pretty fun too |
| 18:44.33 | AckisWork | choppers = slow, Seige Engines = tank, other = deeps/ |
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| 18:44.48 | Osstia | choppers have a sprint that makes them very fast |
| 18:45.00 | durcyn | no, the choppers don't slow the boss |
| 18:45.14 | durcyn | on easy mode you just drop puddles of tar in front of the kite path |
| 18:45.15 | AckisWork | they have oil? |
| 18:45.20 | Osstia | and choopers drop oil/tar that does |
| 18:45.28 | durcyn | oil doesn't affect flame leviathan |
| 18:45.32 | durcyn | that's for the freya tower adds on hard mode |
| 18:45.37 | AckisWork | ah |
| 18:45.43 | durcyn | he takes damage from the burning oil, that's about it |
| 18:46.06 | Osstia | i stand corrected. i had always thought he was slowed by the tar |
| 18:47.10 | durcyn | only way to slow him is to stun off the speed buff |
| 18:47.14 | AckisWork | it sounds like a fun fight |
| 18:47.29 | Osstia | we're doing 2 towers tonight |
| 18:47.39 | Osstia | slowly working towards the 4 |
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| 18:47.51 | durcyn | 2 towers is simple if you leave out freya and thorim |
| 18:48.56 | ZorbaTHut | do you get improved loot at 1 tower, or 2 towers, or only at 4? |
| 18:49.23 | durcyn | i don't think we got any 239 with 2 up |
| 18:50.59 | Osstia | i though loot only kicked in at 4 towers |
| 18:51.13 | Osstia | i thought 1,2 and 3 were just extra badges |
| 18:51.24 | Osstia | but that is just what i have heard during raids |
| 18:52.22 | ZorbaTHut | ooh, extra badges? hmm, maybe I should try to convince my guild leader to do one tower |
| 18:52.33 | Osstia | 1 tower is easy |
| 18:52.37 | Osstia | and its a free badge |
| 18:52.50 | Kirov | which tower? |
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| 18:53.32 | Osstia | Tower of Flames (Mimiron's Inferno) |
| 18:53.37 | Osstia | Thats the one we have been doing |
| 18:53.52 | Osstia | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flame_Leviathan#Hard_Mode |
| 18:53.52 | Kirov | Heh, that one kicked our asses. |
| 18:54.22 | Kirov | We actually found the Freya tower (w/ the adds) easier. |
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| 18:57.23 | durcyn | mimiron's not so bad once you know to avoid the BRIGHT RED LASER BEAM FROM THE SKY, but yeah, the combinations can get a little annoying |
| 18:57.56 | Osstia | have you done 2 towers durcyn? if so, which combination do you recommend? |
| 18:58.04 | AckisWork | read up on the first two boss fights |
| 18:58.08 | durcyn | eh, the easiest is probably hodir+mimiron |
| 18:58.12 | Beladona | Mimiron is buggy as hell |
| 18:58.27 | Beladona | isn't a raid that goesd by that he doesn't fail to spin up at least 5 or 6 times |
| 18:58.30 | Osstia | Beladona: the boss? or the tower for FL? |
| 18:58.35 | Beladona | the boss |
| 18:58.45 | Osstia | he's my favorite encounter now |
| 18:58.56 | Beladona | have you done Yogg? |
| 18:58.59 | Osstia | yes |
| 18:59.01 | Beladona | thats my favorite |
| 18:59.03 | durcyn | yeah, phase 2 mimiron needs some work |
| 18:59.03 | Osstia | we got him sunday |
| 18:59.23 | Osstia | i am a healer, so i stay up for phase 2 |
| 18:59.26 | Beladona | phase 4 has some minor bugs too, but its not nearly as bad as 2 |
| 18:59.33 | Osstia | i think mimiron is a little more fun |
| 18:59.40 | durcyn | now, phase 2 with doomfire up.. |
| 19:00.08 | Beladona | I get very tired of yelling at people to not stand on top of each other in p2 |
| 19:00.34 | ZorbaTHut | I wish we could get past Hodir :( |
| 19:00.44 | Beladona | Hodir is cake |
| 19:01.03 | Beladona | no offense =s (just realized that mighta been insulting) |
| 19:01.06 | KarlKFI | we quit raiding with THorim at 2% last night :'( |
| 19:01.18 | ZorbaTHut | beladona, my server is crap. No offense taken. |
| 19:01.28 | Osstia | you know whats interesting. we wiped like 6 times on hodir last week. of all places |
| 19:01.39 | Zyndrome | Hodir was delicious cake when he bugged and gave hardmode chest |
| 19:01.42 | ZorbaTHut | We're the #2 raiding guild on my faction, and we were #1 before a guild transferred from another server just so they could be #1 |
| 19:01.45 | |Jelly| | My server is crap too. :( |
| 19:01.46 | Beladona | do you break the npc free, or just the mage npc ZorbaTHut? |
| 19:01.50 | KarlKFI | turns out Thorim is 90% planning and organization and only like 10% execution |
| 19:02.15 | Beladona | KarlKFI: once you down him, his hard mode isn't really much harder |
| 19:02.17 | ZorbaTHut | beladona, it's honestly a good day when the DPS remembers to break anyone free. I haven't wanted to suggest "hey we should target the mage and break the mages free" |
| 19:02.21 | Osstia | anyone had any experience with hard mode Council? |
| 19:02.29 | ZorbaTHut | we still have people ending up frozen on a regular basis :( |
| 19:02.41 | Osstia | ZorbaTHut: thats frustrating |
| 19:02.44 | Beladona | thats special |
| 19:02.46 | ZorbaTHut | osstia, yes. |
| 19:02.50 | Beladona | its SO easy to not |
| 19:02.59 | KarlKFI | we were breaking everyone out. we got that achieve on hodir last night |
| 19:03.03 | ZorbaTHut | and I'm being totally serious here when I say this is the cream of the server :/ |
| 19:03.09 | theorbtwo | Possibly psychological issues -- if you think Hodir is easy, you might not be trying your best against him. |
| 19:03.19 | ZorbaTHut | theorb, well, we keep wiping on him, so :P |
| 19:03.19 | End | the first time I did hodir I thought the small circles gave snowdrift >_> |
| 19:03.35 | Beladona | Hodir is the easiest of the keepers |
| 19:03.37 | Beladona | imho |
| 19:03.49 | Osstia | its the most straight forward |
| 19:03.54 | KarlKFI | nah, cat lady is easier |
| 19:04.02 | End | cat lady isn't a keeper |
| 19:04.02 | Beladona | thats all planning |
| 19:04.03 | AckisWork | the group I'm going with tonight is on yogg |
| 19:04.06 | Beladona | aye |
| 19:04.08 | kd3 | but cat lady isn't a keeper |
| 19:04.10 | Osstia | i think thorim is easier |
| 19:04.14 | ZorbaTHut | cat lady took us two fucking days |
| 19:04.22 | Beladona | Freya isn't bad |
| 19:04.27 | Beladona | her trash is worse than her |
| 19:04.36 | Osstia | in 25 man, we don't do mimiron trash |
| 19:04.48 | Osstia | did you know you can just run to the train and leash the trash? |
| 19:04.51 | End | freya's trash just takes a while |
| 19:04.52 | Beladona | you sneak in and activate the portal? |
| 19:05.03 | End | lol |
| 19:05.12 | End | leash the trash? that's hilarious |
| 19:05.14 | Osstia | Beladona: yes. make it to the train and the trash leashes. then aggro the boss, and it activates the portal |
| 19:05.26 | Osstia | no mimiron trash |
| 19:05.26 | Beladona | thats weird |
| 19:05.27 | End | not that you go through that hallway after you take the tram for the first time -anyway- |
| 19:05.39 | Beladona | I would almot rather have trash though. Trash drops and all |
| 19:05.45 | Osstia | no, but it saves 15-20 minutes |
| 19:05.53 | durcyn | you don't have to kite them, kill the first pack and grab the tank |
| 19:05.56 | Industrial | Someone should make an addon or plugin for Routes that would simulate a rally drive |
| 19:05.57 | durcyn | then use it to jump over the other two packs |
| 19:06.11 | Industrial | show corner signs and audio with 'hard right', 'medium left' etc |
| 19:06.22 | Industrial | and no paths or whatever other then that |
| 19:06.22 | Industrial | :p |
| 19:06.28 | Beladona | we usually clear everything through the keepers except Mimiron on the first night. Then finish Mimiron and General on night 2 |
| 19:06.34 | Beladona | we haven't downed Yogg yet |
| 19:06.37 | Osstia | ahh |
| 19:06.50 | Osstia | we have downed up to mimiron in a 4 hour raid night |
| 19:07.03 | Beladona | we probably could now |
| 19:07.33 | Osstia | and if we could get people to do emalon on their own time, that'd help too |
| 19:07.35 | Beladona | Mimiron still gives us problems |
| 19:07.56 | Beladona | but mostly because we had a surge of recruits recently, and well -- you know |
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| 19:20.46 | ZorbaTHut | so, can anyone think of a clever way to display the important quest status of your grouped friends in a single line? |
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| 19:21.11 | AckisWork | ZorbaTHut: quest helper won't install help me! /sarcasm |
| 19:21.26 | ZorbaTHut | ackis is being unhelpful >:( |
| 19:21.51 | AckisWork | pfft |
| 19:22.28 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy brings the cute! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDHB-19-ZrU |
| 19:22.32 | durcyn | ZorbaTHut: just append a string to the objectives, either the total number of party members that still need / have completed it, or abbreviated names and status |
| 19:23.11 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, total number. that's not a bad idea |
| 19:23.23 | durcyn | i.e. "Collect 17 Sprockets" 13/17 [SomeGuy: 10, OtherGuy:3], or "Party: 0/2" |
| 19:23.36 | Osstia | Lopeppeppy: creepy |
| 19:24.16 | ZorbaTHut | Volatile Mutation: 8/8 (Party 1/2) |
| 19:24.19 | ZorbaTHut | that look reasonable? |
| 19:25.00 | durcyn | it's how questfu did it, iirc |
| 19:25.15 | AckisWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ztq1SjxnU > peppy's link! |
| 19:25.18 | aesir | Zorba: Drop the word "Party"? |
| 19:25.41 | ZorbaTHut | aesir, I'm worried it'll be a little too dense for people. but, yeah, "party" is kind of noisy |
| 19:26.58 | AckisWork | ZorbaTHut: how can they see it if it won't install! |
| 19:27.07 | AckisWork | lets make a ticket! |
| 19:27.09 | AckisWork | HALP |
| 19:27.13 | AckisWork | QH won't install |
| 19:27.15 | ZorbaTHut | ackis stop using vista :P |
| 19:27.26 | AckisWork | did you see the guy that said QuestHealper? |
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| 19:28.26 | aesir | QuestHealer. It fixes all teh broken quests. |
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| 19:29.47 | Lopeppeppy | doesn't think anyone but her should collect Sprockets! |
| 19:30.00 | ZorbaTHut | I didn't see that, but it doesn't surprise me. I'm still waiting for people to start calling it TourHelper or QuestHeaded or CarbonHelper or something |
| 19:30.15 | AckisWork | steals all of Lopeppeppy's Sprockets! |
| 19:30.42 | aesir | Zorba: I agree it would be dense for some people if Party got dropped. My personal pref is that it gets dropped though, as some text is getting truncated as it stands now. But, if you have the ability to insert an icon representing a party (that two face cameo looking icon?) then that might be a nice balance between the two concerns. |
| 19:31.08 | ZorbaTHut | that is *so* not happening right now ;) text only for this iteration |
| 19:31.13 | AckisWork | ZorbaTHut: use P: instead of Party: |
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| 19:31.19 | aesir | Or that. |
| 19:31.26 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, P's probably the best solution. I'll do that, though I agree the icon is probably better longterm |
| 19:31.32 | ZorbaTHut | thanks for the commentary everyone :) |
| 19:31.42 | AckisWork | pee's on QuestHealper |
| 19:32.00 | ZorbaTHut | QuestHelper now includes Healbot functionality, and has been renamed to QuestHealper |
| 19:32.10 | Thunder_Child | pee's on AckisWork |
| 19:32.21 | AckisWork | drinks it all up. |
| 19:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, Joe is the Jewel, you can't steal him. |
| 19:32.39 | durcyn | just color the (0/2) to the party chat color, ZorbaTHut |
| 19:33.12 | ZorbaTHut | I kind of want to make the tracker *less* garishly colorful, not more ;) |
| 19:33.29 | ZorbaTHut | someday I really need to sit down and make that thing prettier. |
| 19:33.50 | aesir | Just wow. Anyway, Zorba: Please consider word wrapping those quest lines. |
| 19:34.10 | ZorbaTHut | aesir, I think my first attempt is going to be to truncate them with ... |
| 19:34.51 | aesir | It already does that. unless we're talking about 2 diff things. |
| 19:35.03 | ZorbaTHut | if you're talking about the QH tracker, it doesn't |
| 19:35.12 | aesir | No, you're right. It just cuts off, not ellipses it |
| 19:35.20 | ZorbaTHut | it doesn't even really cut off, it just keeps going |
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| 19:35.27 | ZorbaTHut | if you're on the right side of the screen, it just goes right off the screen |
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| 19:37.04 | kd3|hate`net | grr |
| 19:37.54 | AckisWork | ZorbaTHut: QuestHealper is asking me to press the any key... I don't have an "any" key... what do I do/ |
| 19:38.02 | kd3 | yay! bnet auth is broken... again |
| 19:38.07 | kd3 | grrs again |
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| 19:38.10 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, in a pinch, you can substitute for an "any" key by headbutting your keyboard |
| 19:38.18 | Lopeppeppy | That's a grrrr kd3. |
| 19:38.26 | kd3 | put that in the faq, zorba |
| 19:38.33 | AckisWork | OMG QuestHealper is a keylogger! It broke my keyboard! |
| 19:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | breaks the keyboard over Ackis' head. |
| 19:38.48 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, put it in the dishwasher! wash that logging away! |
| 19:39.02 | AckisWork | ahhh |
| 19:39.07 | AckisWork | my dishwasher is broken |
| 19:39.19 | AckisWork | (she was in the hospital) ahahahahahah |
| 19:40.08 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I would kick you if I could! :P |
| 19:40.18 | AckisWork | hehe :D |
| 19:40.57 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles up to Lunessa. |
| 19:40.58 | AckisWork | she was sleeping on the couch last night, and I totally farted in her face (accidentally)... heard this moan/grumble come from her... many lulz for me |
| 19:41.08 | Industrial | is there a non big-ass-all-inclusive-raid-addon that only shows me what buffs I miss? |
| 19:41.08 | Lunessa | snuggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 19:41.49 | KarlKFI | Industrial: what buffs you haven't cast? |
| 19:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | Industrial... Cork I think? |
| 19:42.02 | Lunessa | Industrial: ZOMG Buffs, Cork, and X-Raid Status |
| 19:42.06 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone have a link to patch notes for me? |
| 19:42.14 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.1.2 |
| 19:42.34 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, kd3. I can read up on my wonders. |
| 19:43.41 | AckisWork | hey cool, everyone who registers on the mountain dew site gets a pet code! |
| 19:43.46 | Industrial | KarlKFI: no, what raidbuffs you are missing |
| 19:44.08 | durcyn | AckisWork: days behind |
| 19:44.12 | KarlKFI | oh, it's called your buff display |
| 19:46.16 | KarlKFI | (no i haven't heard of one) |
| 19:46.25 | KarlKFI | it'd be dependant on who's in your raid |
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| 19:46.39 | KarlKFI | and who's in range |
| 19:46.39 | Industrial | KarlKFI: exactly :p |
| 19:47.04 | Industrial | no, just raid I guess - everyone should stack for buffs |
| 19:47.08 | KarlKFI | would be a nice way to filter buffs tho |
| 19:47.26 | KarlKFI | filter out the ones you know you should have and show the ones you dont |
| 19:47.44 | KarlKFI | for all buffs > 5min or something |
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| 19:48.20 | Grum | by |
| 19:48.25 | Grum | meh! wce |
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| 19:48.30 | KarlKFI | might be annoying for auras and totems tho |
| 19:49.24 | Grum | how can you get a GUID from a target like "raidx" ? |
| 19:49.58 | Taroven | use raid1-raid40? |
| 19:50.13 | kd3 | UnitGUID('raid1') |
| 19:50.21 | Taroven | ^ |
| 19:52.43 | Taroven | If you need info on all units in a raid, for i=1,25 do raidguidtable[i]=UnitGUID('raid'..i) end would prolly work. |
| 19:53.06 | Industrial | KarlKFI: I just mean buffs cast on you |
| 19:53.17 | Kemayo | durcyn: QuestsFu/BetterQuest did "Kill dudes Ali:3 Ste:2 Qwj:9 8/10" |
| 19:53.18 | Industrial | spirit stamina kings wisdom might etc |
| 19:53.26 | durcyn | Kemayo: oh, right |
| 19:53.35 | durcyn | Kemayo: wasn't there a summary on the title though? |
| 19:54.14 | Kemayo | The quest title just includes "Killin' Dudes <2>", where 2 is the number of group members with the quest. |
| 19:54.49 | Grum | spells that get applied on targets get applied to the same GUID right? |
| 19:55.13 | Taroven | In general. What're you trying to do? |
| 19:55.24 | durcyn | Grum: do what now? GUIDs are specific to instances of a unit, not to the spells cast on them |
| 19:55.31 | Kemayo | durcyn: A summary of completion in the title isn't a bad idea, though... |
| 19:55.38 | Kemayo | I'll add that to my todo list. |
| 19:55.55 | Grum | nah, i mean the combatlog registers spells to be applied/cast by certain GUIDs right? so if i'd cast a spell my GUID would be the origin? |
| 19:56.13 | Grum | or does the combatlog work based on raidX or possibly just name of the caster? |
| 19:56.27 | Taroven | Combatlog is all done by GUID iirc |
| 19:56.30 | durcyn | Grum: depending on the subevent, yes. auras sure, cast_start not so much |
| 19:56.31 | foxlit | Okay, question |
| 19:56.44 | foxlit | Why does /cast [flyable] Swift Flight Form; Moonfire attempt to cast moonfire in Dalaran? |
| 19:56.58 | durcyn | some events have destination data withheld for pvp purposes |
| 19:56.58 | foxlit | at Krasus' Landing, no less. |
| 19:57.04 | Taroven | Woah, did they finally tag Dal as a noflyable area> |
| 19:57.05 | nicoli_s | foxlit, flyable doesnt work right |
| 19:57.12 | NightHawkTheSane | do you have something modifying flyable that's mucking it up? |
| 19:57.14 | foxlit | nicoli_s: It's supposed to not work right the other way. |
| 19:57.20 | durcyn | you can't modify macro conditions |
| 19:57.32 | NightHawkTheSane | well, -something- is mucking up ;P |
| 19:57.36 | foxlit | NightHawkTheSane: I do, but it messes with this on a different level. |
| 19:57.44 | foxlit | Shouldn't be affecting default macros. |
| 19:57.47 | durcyn | foxlit: did they fix flyable for no-fly-zones in 3.1.2? |
| 19:57.48 | Grum | durcyn: auras dont have an origin of a player? |
| 19:58.10 | durcyn | Grum: pretty much everything has an origin, just be carefu with destinations on certain cast events |
| 19:58.10 | foxlit | durcyn: (a) I'm on 3.1.1 still (b) Even if they did, this zone is supposed to be flyable. |
| 19:58.11 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: even if they did, they'd have to leave krasus' landing flyable |
| 19:58.37 | durcyn | krasus landing has a bug sometimes where flyable doen't get update correctly coming in from dalaran proper |
| 19:58.43 | Grum | durcyn: could you give an example for something to be careful about perhaps? (so i can place it better in my head ^^) |
| 19:58.53 | durcyn | Grum: SPELL_CAST_START, specifically |
| 19:59.01 | foxlit | durcyn: I think that's it |
| 19:59.07 | durcyn | foxlit: what happens when you run back inside then back out? |
| 19:59.10 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: ah right, forgot about that glitch |
| 19:59.21 | foxlit | The door itself is apparently not flyable, even if the rest of Dalaran is. |
| 19:59.30 | foxlit | (well, door building) |
| 19:59.35 | foxlit | Walking out and back in fixes that. |
| 19:59.37 | Grum | mmm the SPELL_CAST_START just names the target you have selected at that moment? (or even nothing?) |
| 19:59.40 | NightHawkTheSane | the hallway between the landing and the rest of dal isn't flyable |
| 19:59.54 | durcyn | Grum: no, it never has a destination, withheld because of the pvp ramifications |
| 19:59.55 | NightHawkTheSane | how they can flag -that- as not flyable, but not the rest of dal is beyond me. |
| 20:00.02 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: it's indoors |
| 20:00.12 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: no, its not, as you can ride a land mount through it |
| 20:00.15 | Grum | durcyn: k thanks :) |
| 20:00.21 | foxlit | And travel form works |
| 20:00.22 | durcyn | oh, guess that wouldn't affect mounting anyway |
| 20:00.40 | foxlit | Point is, [outdoors] is true in that building. |
| 20:00.50 | durcyn | but [flyable] isn't |
| 20:00.56 | foxlit | Which is just awesome |
| 20:01.15 | NightHawkTheSane | (actually, i'm 90% certain that they haven't fixed flyable because they don't yet know how to solve the problem of auto-dismounting when entering a [noflyable] area. |
| 20:01.40 | NightHawkTheSane | in that building, it's a non issue, because you can't fall far enough to hurt |
| 20:02.04 | foxlit | Just equip everyone with parachutes. |
| 20:02.07 | durcyn | i call bullshit on that, they could just recycle the no-fly-zone parachute code |
| 20:02.10 | durcyn | ^ |
| 20:02.32 | durcyn | and ffs, make (no)flyable work correctly in them while they're at it, it doesn't seem like that much effort |
| 20:02.35 | Kirov | Don't have no fly zones. |
| 20:02.39 | Kirov | fixed! |
| 20:02.54 | NightHawkTheSane | that behaves a bit differently, not knowing what the internal code looks like, its impossible to say how easy it would be to do that. |
| 20:03.04 | airtonix | whats the point of preventing flying in dal anyway? |
| 20:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ambiance. |
| 20:03.11 | durcyn | airtonix: roleplay |
| 20:03.21 | foxlit | I need an IsFallingToYourDeath() |
| 20:03.26 | airtonix | still doesnt make sense |
| 20:03.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it's fine with me, really. |
| 20:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i rather enjoy it |
| 20:03.50 | foxlit | The point is that city design doesn't work with nether-drakes on all city streets. |
| 20:03.56 | durcyn | there's some text about it somewhere, "your mount can't breathe at this altitude" |
| 20:04.05 | durcyn | nevermind every zone north of it is higher. |
| 20:04.13 | airtonix | lulz, except when higher than the city |
| 20:04.22 | foxlit | "There's a magical no-fly zone in effect" |
| 20:04.31 | foxlit | Is the exact explanation offered for Dalaran. |
| 20:04.45 | airtonix | because the kirin tor feel insulted every time a non mage flys near them |
| 20:05.02 | Beladona | its so that you can't find their super sekret stash hidden by all means except aerial |
| 20:05.07 | Lunessa | foxlit: What you need is "ThisCrapMakesSense" as an API to test against. It's a Boolean that returns true or nil. |
| 20:05.20 | airtonix | it returns false everywhere |
| 20:05.24 | kneeki | err, how do you enable the new item rack thing? |
| 20:05.26 | kd3 | if it's not a stub that always return nil I'd be disappointed |
| 20:05.29 | kd3 | interface options |
| 20:05.35 | Lunessa | airtonix: Technically, it returns 'nil'. |
| 20:05.42 | kneeki | kd3, where in there? |
| 20:05.47 | foxlit | Point is, I can make [flyable] work. Properly. Everywhere. |
| 20:05.52 | kd3 | dunno. I can't get in right now |
| 20:05.54 | kneeki | lol |
| 20:05.56 | kd3 | but it's there, go wander aroudn |
| 20:05.58 | foxlit | I just have a feeling I might cause some deaths |
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| 20:06.04 | kneeki | It's under 'Controls' |
| 20:06.04 | Beladona | I totally forgot about the new itemrack thing |
| 20:06.08 | kneeki | at the very bottom |
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| 20:06.54 | airtonix | 'item rack thing' you mean the gear slot item flyouts? |
| 20:06.57 | foxlit | i.e. if you're high enough above Dalaran, it doesn't always dismount you |
| 20:07.16 | foxlit | But now I've gone and got myself stuck on the top ring of the Violet Citadel. |
| 20:07.17 | foxlit | Go me. |
| 20:07.24 | Osstia | how is the in-game itemrack? sufficient to drop closet gnome or outfitter now? |
| 20:07.26 | Lopeppeppy | Hearth? |
| 20:07.42 | Lopeppeppy | Osstia, it will be sufficient for me, but YMMV. |
| 20:07.47 | durcyn | Osstia: unless they added keybinds AND snarky quips, i'm keeping CG |
| 20:07.51 | kneeki | Osstia, It works well |
| 20:07.53 | kneeki | I like it |
| 20:07.56 | foxlit | Hearthing is such a boring way to solve this problem. |
| 20:08.11 | Osstia | i am very basic. i have a Pve, PvP and fishing outfit |
| 20:08.12 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: i think you can macro (and thus keybind) equipping sets.. |
| 20:08.17 | foxlit | Let's sprint off and hope I exit Dalaran before I land. |
| 20:08.25 | Lopeppeppy | Pay a warlock to summon you to Goldshire. |
| 20:08.28 | airtonix | Osstia, do you need an ingame interface to provided event based scripting on gear profiles? you dont need outfitter or itemrack, do you need simple dropdown to select and create gear profiles? you dont need either of the previously mentioned mods |
| 20:08.53 | airtonix | Osstia, i mean if you dont use the scripting* |
| 20:08.55 | foxlit | Score! |
| 20:09.00 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: needs more switching on talent spec swaps too, imo |
| 20:09.06 | Osstia | i don't use the scripting, i just leep 3 updated gear sets |
| 20:09.09 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: higher learning book ftw. :P |
| 20:09.23 | Osstia | on my druid i used to let is change gear on shapeshifts, but that was always buggy with combat |
| 20:09.26 | Osstia | so i stopped |
| 20:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: you could -probably- write a mod to do that. although i'd never want that :\ |
| 20:09.55 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder if it's time for me to drop CG support in OPie |
| 20:09.58 | airtonix | Osstia, i prefer salerack. |
| 20:10.02 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i freaking HATE css someetimes. |
| 20:10.11 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: cg_swapspec already does it, is the point. and it's kind of handy, just re-equip the last set that was active for that talent set |
| 20:10.12 | foxlit | * {display: none} |
| 20:10.47 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: i was just pointing out that there was (sort of) a way to keybind the equipment manager. :P |
| 20:11.54 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: but i like to argue! |
| 20:12.04 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 20:12.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish i could position elements on a web page the same way you can in wow. it would make this so much easier. |
| 20:13.12 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, you can |
| 20:13.27 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. |
| 20:13.27 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, there is absolute positioning |
| 20:13.37 | NightHawkTheSane | that's nowhere near the same thing. |
| 20:13.45 | airtonix | ? |
| 20:13.57 | airtonix | you have both absolute and relative positioning |
| 20:14.22 | NightHawkTheSane | it's impossible to say, in css, "position element N -5,5 relative to the bottom-left corner of completely-unrelated-element M" |
| 20:15.00 | NightHawkTheSane | (or what-have-you) |
| 20:15.31 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, ok considering that the positioning you want is not a native part of lua, |
| 20:15.46 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, and not a native part of css |
| 20:15.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I didn't say lua |
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| 20:16.42 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, not forgetting the two systems are for different purposes |
| 20:17.03 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, you could always create or use some javascript libs |
| 20:17.13 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, mootools is a good option |
| 20:17.15 | NightHawkTheSane | javascript positioning is an ugly hack. |
| 20:18.14 | airtonix | so lets consier for a moment, that were you not to have access to the positioning functions in wow |
| 20:18.23 | airtonix | you would need to provide 'ugly lua hacks' |
| 20:19.05 | Lopeppeppy | Are there beautiful lua hacks? |
| 20:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | really, no hacks are every beautiful. :P |
| 20:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | s/every/ever/ |
| 20:19.36 | Fisker- | farts |
| 20:20.21 | airtonix | just remember that when looking at html,css,javascript and trying to compare to the wowapi (an augemented provision of xml & lua) that you will need to provide the stuff you want in html,css,js |
| 20:20.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd rather tell off the designer, and write a simpler page. :P |
| 20:21.40 | airtonix | http://mootools.net/docs/core/Element/Element.Dimensions#Element:getPosition |
| 20:21.48 | airtonix | relative - (Element, defaults to the document) If set, the position will be relative to this Element. |
| 20:22.39 | airtonix | but i understand you feel bitter ans disapointed that your out-of-box product doesnt provide you with the solutions you requested as you ordered |
| 20:22.40 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not going to import an entire library to position a single troublesome element. |
| 20:23.08 | NightHawkTheSane | no, I'm bitter and disappointed that fucking graphic designers have no concept of reality when designing websites. |
| 20:23.26 | kd3 | of course not. you expect the graphics guys to make our lives easy? |
| 20:23.30 | kd3 | wahahahahha |
| 20:23.31 | NightHawkTheSane | which ultimately leads to -idiotic- hacks and libraries do pull of silly designs that someone whipped up in photoshop |
| 20:23.38 | Grum | that is just odd, you should be cursing at the differences caused by wrong/broken browsers :D |
| 20:23.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: oh, i do that too. :D |
| 20:23.55 | Grum | most of the hacking is due to that |
| 20:24.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but for that, I just write standards compliant code, and say "if its broken, its not my fault" |
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| 20:25.02 | airtonix | the other advantage of mootools is that the results are identical across all browsers |
| 20:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | MOOOOO@ |
| 20:25.46 | Grum | NightHawkTheSane: which browser do you use? Utopia v1.0? |
| 20:26.11 | Nechckn | Mosaic? =) |
| 20:26.14 | Lopeppeppy | Netscape 5.0 |
| 20:26.20 | NightHawkTheSane | safari and firefox. if i can get it 'close enough' in those two, while being standards compliant, i say good enough. |
| 20:26.38 | Fisker- | there are no standards |
| 20:26.40 | Fisker- | </troll> |
| 20:27.25 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 20:27.26 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers. |
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| 20:29.00 | AckisWork | anyone here go to GAMA or last years WWI? |
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| 20:31.17 | Taroven | So, has anyone beat the equipment selection popouts into submission yet? |
| 20:31.27 | Fisker- | why AckisWork |
| 20:31.45 | AckisWork | Fisker-: looking for a promo item from those two conventions |
| 20:31.57 | Fisker- | tyrael? |
| 20:32.36 | AckisWork | nah have that already... I'm after wow mini promo's |
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| 20:41.00 | KarlKFI | WoW Mini? like on a mobile? |
| 20:41.28 | AckisWork | no, mini's game |
| 20:57.25 | foxlit | Hm, you can almost use this stuff as a puzzle |
| 21:12.44 | Antiarc | Did they change minimap blips again in this patch? |
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| 21:12.58 | k1net1k_ | antiarc: looks like it |
| 21:13.07 | Antiarc | Any API or cvar for it? |
| 21:14.10 | durcyn | it's up on wowcompares |
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| 21:15.27 | Codex| | does this look terribly bad to anyone? cant get it to work, /cast [mod:shift] Flamestrike(rank 8); [mod:ctrl] Flamestrike; Blizzard; |
| 21:15.38 | kd3 | get rid of the last semicolon |
| 21:16.15 | durcyn | http://www.vitriolic.net/crap/312.diff |
| 21:16.21 | Codex| | the control one isnt doing anything, and nothing else is bound to that key |
| 21:16.26 | Codex| | shift and no-mod working |
| 21:17.10 | Duman | hmm |
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| 21:17.56 | Codex| | control + hotkey is just doing nothing, and nothing ekse is bound to that hotkey |
| 21:18.14 | durcyn | isn't the condition [mod:control], or does the short form work |
| 21:18.39 | Codex| | ctrl i believe |
| 21:18.43 | Codex| | but i will try control and see |
| 21:18.53 | Duman | Is that just a test macro? I don't understand why you'd downrank :) |
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| 21:19.09 | Codex| | rank 8 and 9 ground dots of flamestrike stack |
| 21:19.33 | Codex| | no, control doesnt work with full form |
| 21:20.10 | NightHawkTheSane | are you -certain- nothing is bound to ctrl-(key)? does ctrl-clicking the macro work? |
| 21:20.39 | Duman | does't "Rank" need to be capitalized? And is there really no space after "Flamestrike" and before the "(Rank 8)" ? |
| 21:20.49 | Codex| | nothing is bound, and countrol + mouseclick worosk |
| 21:20.59 | kneeki | Instead of using 'for i = 1, 12 do local f = _G['someframe'..i]; if f then dostuff end end', can I use some sort of a 'while true do' loop? I've never done it before |
| 21:21.00 | NightHawkTheSane | he said mod:shift worked fine, so presumably that's okay Duman |
| 21:21.09 | durcyn | if it works on click, then you have a binding. |
| 21:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Codex|: if ctrl-click is working fine, you MUST have some binding overriding it |
| 21:21.28 | Codex| | hm |
| 21:21.32 | Codex| | alright let me dig |
| 21:21.33 | durcyn | so rebind ctrl-whatever then unbind it |
| 21:21.49 | NightHawkTheSane | check the binds for pet actions.. I think it's.. "special action buttons" or something? |
| 21:22.17 | durcyn | oh, is it a number? those are pet bar binds by default |
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| 21:22.29 | Duman | yeah, control-# is bound to pet controls |
| 21:22.35 | Duman | (by default) |
| 21:22.39 | durcyn | but no matter, just rebind it to something empty and it'll tell you what it currently is |
| 21:22.55 | Codex| | yea it was on a hidden bar |
| 21:22.57 | Codex| | got it |
| 21:23.09 | Codex| | i wish there was someway i could test them to see which rank was casting |
| 21:23.11 | Codex| | is there an easy way? |
| 21:23.22 | Duman | if you dont' specify, it will cast max |
| 21:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | many casting bar mods have an option to show the rank in the cast bar |
| 21:23.38 | NightHawkTheSane | quartz, at least, does |
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| 21:23.46 | Duman | or that |
| 21:24.01 | Codex| | last question, is there a way to make a mod have 2 buttons to be required? |
| 21:24.11 | Codex| | say if i want shift to be max, and shift control to be rank 8 |
| 21:24.14 | NightHawkTheSane | should be |
| 21:24.21 | NightHawkTheSane | [mod:shift,mod:ctrl]? |
| 21:24.24 | Codex| | [mod:ctrl][mod:shift]? |
| 21:24.37 | Codex| | is that valid syntax or a guess? lol |
| 21:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm about 90% certain what i said is valid and correct :) |
| 21:25.11 | NightHawkTheSane | what you said is NOT correct however, that would be an 'or' condition, essentially |
| 21:25.21 | Codex| | sweet thanks guys |
| 21:25.25 | NightHawkTheSane | each set of brackets represents a condition to match against. |
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| 21:25.53 | Codex| | last question, just to really mix stuff up. if i wanted max rank to be control+shift or just shift |
| 21:26.03 | Codex| | like a || |
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| 21:26.38 | Codex| | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.38 | Codex| | ? |
| 21:26.43 | Codex| | is that OR |
| 21:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you could just do [mod:shift], it would probably ignore the control key, as long as it doens't match something else first |
| 21:27.15 | NightHawkTheSane | but yes, that would be a very verbose way of doing that. |
| 21:27.35 | Codex| | i think it works with just shift, im going to have to play around with it and make sure the ranks i think are being cast ARE being cast |
| 21:27.40 | Codex| | thanks again NightHawkTheSane |
| 21:28.14 | Jamash | Why are you using downranking? |
| 21:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | as noted earlier, the ground dot of flamestrike stacks between different ranks |
| 21:30.00 | airtonix | why does the following code interfere with the escape button to open the game menu http://pastey.net/114564 |
| 21:30.09 | Jamash | oh ho ho |
| 21:30.31 | airtonix | removing it allows my escape button to open the gamemenu |
| 21:30.36 | Codex| | yea max dps would be rank 9 FS rank 8 fs followd by a blizz |
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| 21:30.38 | Codex| | thanks again |
| 21:30.46 | durcyn | why not just castsequence it then |
| 21:32.16 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know if it's possible to run a trial and a non-trial account on one computer? |
| 21:32.59 | airtonix | it is |
| 21:33.18 | ZorbaTHut | excellent |
| 21:33.19 | Kraps | lame, the brooklyn public library doesnt have the new arthas book |
| 21:33.53 | NightHawkTheSane | do public libraries ever have anything that would be 'new'? :P |
| 21:34.08 | Kraps | heh |
| 21:34.48 | Kraps | oh new patch today /shrug |
| 21:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | http://imgur.com/oxijg.png |
| 21:37.57 | foxlit | Say I wanted to run a slash command |
| 21:40.44 | p3lim | hm ive been hacked |
| 21:40.58 | p3lim | keep getting disconnects and guildies says im logging on and off on another char |
| 21:40.59 | p3lim | gg |
| 21:41.12 | foxlit | info.text, info.func, info.arg1 = lang("cfgRKOpenSpellBook"), ToggleSpellBook, BOOKTYPE_SPELL; |
| 21:41.25 | foxlit | Now why does that open the spellbook in a completely broken state? |
| 21:42.47 | foxlit | Because UIDDM passes a self argument. |
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| 21:58.12 | foxlit | Hm, an attackable Lich King. |
| 21:58.21 | foxlit | I wonder if moonfiring him would be a bad idea. |
| 21:58.22 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 21:58.46 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, dooooo it |
| 21:58.52 | ZorbaTHut | you might end the war today! |
| 22:00.46 | foxlit | Meh, I just lose the spirit world buff for hostile actions |
| 22:01.27 | Thunder_Child | does the new equip manager have an API for fucking with it? |
| 22:02.22 | foxlit | How is it that this cave is [flyable] but not [outdoors]? |
| 22:02.29 | foxlit | (and I can't actually fly -- what a betrayal!) |
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| 22:03.58 | ZorbaTHut | fascinating, UI mods crash the streaming trial client |
| 22:04.09 | Lopeppeppy | hates patching, she does. |
| 22:04.20 | ZorbaTHut | (at least, QH does) |
| 22:05.57 | airtonix | qh eats babies |
| 22:06.15 | Lopeppeppy | The streaming client is fussy, to say the least. |
| 22:06.36 | AckisWork | http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/05/19/murkimus-mailed-out-today/ :( |
| 22:07.06 | nicoli_s | blizz loves variations on the murloc pet |
| 22:08.20 | NeoTron | foxlit: [flyable] is simply fail |
| 22:08.23 | NeoTron | foxlit: what else is new? |
| 22:09.04 | theorbtwo | I loved the streaming client; I wish they let me keep using it after I had a real account. |
| 22:09.17 | theorbtwo | ...but yes, it was a bit fussy. |
| 22:09.56 | nicoli_s | is the streaming client free for use? |
| 22:10.21 | theorbtwo | nicoli_s: If you can convince them to give you a trial account, yes. |
| 22:10.53 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 22:11.17 | airtonix | why use the streaming client? just log in with your currently installed normal client |
| 22:11.24 | airtonix | its what i do |
| 22:13.11 | Kraps | nui is not doing it for me |
| 22:13.59 | Lopeppeppy | Successfully patched, but the launcher *still* crashes. |
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| 22:17.58 | Thunder_Child | does PoM trigger after you take smg? |
| 22:18.18 | Thunder_Child | s/smg/dmg/ |
| 22:18.31 | NightHawkTheSane | as opposed to what? |
| 22:18.34 | foxlit | yes |
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| 22:19.36 | Thunder_Child | k, thanks |
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| 22:23.14 | AckisWork | is the argent hypogryph a super fast mount of normal fast mount? |
| 22:25.10 | End | probably normal fast |
| 22:25.16 | airtonix | obviously its not hiro-supercharged |
| 22:26.14 | Lopeppeppy | thundercats powers activate!! |
| 22:26.26 | foxlit | "Patch 3.1.2 was released today, and that means the Blizzard downloader will inevitably become clogged and congested tonight as millions of people around the world try to update their game to the latest version." |
| 22:26.34 | foxlit | Brilliant analysis by WoWInsider. |
| 22:26.43 | ZorbaTHut | it was a pretty small patch :P |
| 22:26.50 | kd3 | if by brilliant you mean 'fail, as usual' |
| 22:26.51 | foxlit | clogged and congested indeed. |
| 22:26.59 | ScytheBlade1 | wowinsider isn't the brighested blog to come about |
| 22:27.02 | Cide | yeah, too bad they use the shitty bittorrent technology |
| 22:27.10 | ScytheBlade1 | In many ways it's right up there with failblog |
| 22:27.11 | Cide | that shit sucks when lots of people use it |
| 22:27.19 | Cide | failblog is awesome |
| 22:27.34 | Lunessa | Oh yes, that shitty bittorrent. |
| 22:27.36 | Cide | but the amount of failures wowinsider is on par |
| 22:27.36 | foxlit | Of course, everything has a reason. |
| 22:27.38 | foxlit | "Our sister site Big Download has posted a patch mirror for us all, and you can head over there and grab the file to download. " |
| 22:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | kd3, I was able to log in just now with my battlenet account, is yours working yet? |
| 22:27.52 | Lunessa | Unitl that crashes |
| 22:28.01 | kd3 | ya, I'm in ok |
| 22:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 22:29.28 | Cide | HAY GUYS, LET'S USE HTTP INSTEAD OF BT SINCE IT'S MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE FOR MILLIONS OF SIMULTANEOUS CONNECTIONS |
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| 22:29.36 | mikma | ok |
| 22:29.39 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like having to work 9-5 spares me some grief. |
| 22:30.40 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: i just made a battlenet account |
| 22:30.41 | foxlit | Cide: the only valid objection here is that the Blizzard BitTorrent implementation doesn't include an end-game mode. |
| 22:31.13 | foxlit | So it's very liable to stall at 1-2 pieces remaining if you're downloading from anyone other than blizzard seeds. |
| 22:31.17 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, may it bring you much joy and benefit. |
| 22:31.25 | Cide | ah, that's too bad |
| 22:31.26 | Kraps | i have to redo my whole wow ui again /growl |
| 22:31.58 | Lopeppeppy | That's not related to the battle net account, Kraps. :) |
| 22:31.59 | Lunessa | My biggest complaint is that the Launcher will try to patch both of my installs, but the path executables always fail on the second copy because my main copy is already patched. |
| 22:32.08 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: har har |
| 22:32.43 | Lopeppeppy | The launcher just freezes for me, I cannot launch the game through it, I have to use the .exe. |
| 22:32.53 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: so what happens when i opt into betas? |
| 22:32.54 | |Jelly| | Any horde guilds need moAr people? |
| 22:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, you go play betas? |
| 22:33.19 | Lopeppeppy | needs Jelly in her guild. 'sept she ain't horde. |
| 22:33.30 | |Jelly| | That /is/ a problem. |
| 22:33.38 | Kraps | they give the games to download? |
| 22:34.00 | Thunder_Child | Kraps, if you get picked |
| 22:34.04 | Lopeppeppy | If you're selected to be in a beta, I'd imagine they give you a link to where to download your copy. |
| 22:34.40 | Thunder_Child | and there is only 4 possible betas coming up anyway |
| 22:35.03 | Kraps | theres 3 in the list |
| 22:35.17 | Lopeppeppy | Then three is what they're willing to cop to. :) |
| 22:35.30 | Thunder_Child | the 4th will take years to come about thats why |
| 22:35.37 | Thunder_Child | it's the new mmo they are working on |
| 22:36.12 | Kraps | next question: does anyone find that the default ui bars cover part of the chat window? |
| 22:36.29 | Thunder_Child | it shouldnt on default |
| 22:37.09 | Kraps | so i gotta wtf my wtf folder AGAIN |
| 22:37.51 | Lopeppeppy | You has issues, Kraps. |
| 22:38.12 | Kraps | INDEED |
| 22:38.16 | Kraps | caps |
| 22:38.28 | Thunder_Child | yes, caps is an issue |
| 22:39.40 | Kraps | heh |
| 22:41.58 | Kraps | think they'll talk about the new mmo at blizzcon? |
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| 22:42.13 | Thunder_Child | doubt it |
| 22:42.24 | Thunder_Child | except maybe to mention that "yes, we are working on one" |
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| 22:43.22 | bleeter | anyone know if blizz are reducing the cost of WG BoA stuff now that 7*3=10? (as per mmo-c screens) |
| 22:43.44 | Kraps | zarym (spelling) mentioned the new mmo |
| 22:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | Zarhym, floating skull of awesomeness! |
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| 22:44.18 | Kraps | ya |
| 22:44.41 | Lopeppeppy | When I grow up I want to be dead just like him. |
| 22:44.51 | Kraps | ... |
| 22:45.03 | Antiarc | Is it possible to get weapon speed without tooltip scanning? |
| 22:46.50 | foxlit | You can get your current weapon speed |
| 22:46.53 | foxlit | but not much else |
| 22:46.59 | Antiarc | Not arbitrary weapons, though? Bah. |
| 22:47.46 | Kraps | does refresh rate affect framerate? |
| 22:47.53 | End | can |
| 22:47.57 | Antiarc | It does if vsync is on |
| 22:48.00 | End | ^ |
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| 22:49.42 | TC-Away | oh lol, my internet went out then 10 seconds later i felt an earthquake |
| 22:49.51 | TC-Away | fail wiring |
| 22:52.30 | Cide | clearly it was the wiring if it fixed itself a few minutes later :P |
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| 22:53.36 | Thunder_Child | sunday it was a 4.7 today it's a 3.9 |
| 22:53.45 | Thunder_Child | this is getting interesting |
| 22:54.38 | Lopeppeppy | But smaller! |
| 22:54.45 | Lopeppeppy | I had an earthquake out here in New York on Sunday too. |
| 22:59.32 | p3lim | im listening to my guildmates on ventrilo |
| 22:59.41 | p3lim | while a random dude hacks my account |
| 22:59.57 | Jamash | have you contacted blizzard yet? |
| 22:59.59 | p3lim | hes running back and forth to the bank and mail |
| 23:00.00 | p3lim | yep |
| 23:00.01 | tekkub | MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:00.04 | tekkub | FUCK ME DADDY |
| 23:00.04 | p3lim | :p |
| 23:00.14 | foxlit | Why not just change your password? |
| 23:00.21 | tekkub | Reigns of the Green Protodrake... |
| 23:00.25 | p3lim | cant |
| 23:00.26 | tekkub | first egg I ever bought |
| 23:00.29 | p3lim | cant log on to anything |
| 23:00.34 | Jamash | grats tekkub |
| 23:00.36 | kd3 | tekkub, hatred |
| 23:00.46 | tekkub | best part? I didn't even want it |
| 23:00.59 | Gnarfoz | can't log on to account management online? |
| 23:01.02 | foxlit | So someone already changed that password for you, or is account management just down? |
| 23:01.30 | Thunder_Child | die tekkub, die |
| 23:01.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraftman (n=kraftman@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust836.swan.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:02.00 | Gnarfoz | also, probably nobody hacked anything, but somebody's gonna tell me I'm being inconsiderate or something :P |
| 23:02.39 | Thunder_Child | pfft, i'm inconsiderate all the time |
| 23:02.40 | Lopeppeppy | Well, if someone who is not p3lim is using his character, he has a problem, whether you call it "hacked" or not. |
| 23:02.43 | foxlit | So I made slices that point back to the same ring they're in work properly |
| 23:03.05 | foxlit | Now you can get a headache by placing more than two in the same ring and trying to figure out what points to what. |
| 23:03.07 | Lopeppeppy | p3lim, it's likely going to take you at least a week to get your account back, and then a few more days to get whatever of your stuff back that you can. I'm sorry it happened. |
| 23:03.18 | Kraps | wheres a good place in-game to check and compare framerates? |
| 23:03.27 | Jamash | (buy an authenticator) |
| 23:03.31 | Lopeppeppy | Dalaran and then once you leave? :) |
| 23:03.37 | p3lim | theyve changed my mail, my pw and secret answer |
| 23:03.43 | p3lim | only thing he dont have is my cdkey |
| 23:03.56 | p3lim | though blizzard doesnt respond to me, I pmed them first like 2 hours ago |
| 23:04.05 | Lopeppeppy | You can still get your account back, p3lim, get cracking on calling Accounts. PM is not effective, call 'em. |
| 23:04.08 | p3lim | when I just found out but were still able to log on to wow |
| 23:04.16 | foxlit | That's why "change your email" notifications should have a giant "CANCEL! I REGRET! PUT IT BACK!" link that's valid for a few weeks. |
| 23:04.21 | p3lim | their office is down |
| 23:04.29 | p3lim | i live in EU, its 01:08 here |
| 23:04.29 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: not to brag but my computer is beast :) |
| 23:05.00 | Lopeppeppy | Well then... it's going to be tomorrow when you get them, p3lim. I'm sorry. Don't torture yourself watching them wreck your account, that's just buying frustration for yourself! |
| 23:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, good for you, but Dalaran is still reported as the highest suckage place in the game right now, so go there to check. :P |
| 23:05.21 | p3lim | tried to find out who he was |
| 23:05.28 | p3lim | but the bastard is running proxy |
| 23:06.10 | mikma | entertaining |
| 23:06.24 | mikma | gotta <3 my authenticator |
| 23:06.37 | PProvost | +1 mikma |
| 23:06.42 | foxlit | But will you still <3 it when its battery dies? |
| 23:06.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I'm not looking forward to that crap. |
| 23:07.11 | *** join/#wowuidev dustice (n=dustin@dsl001-164-046.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 23:07.30 | mikma | foxlit: when the battery dies, i guess i haven't played wow for 2 years ;) |
| 23:08.12 | Jamash | by the time the battery dies I plan to have abandoned physical instrumentality |
| 23:08.34 | mikma | and if the battery dies, i might aswell quit the game |
| 23:08.43 | foxlit | I can't find the figure, I think it was in low years. |
| 23:08.59 | Lopeppeppy | I seem to remember 3 years. |
| 23:09.54 | foxlit | wiki quotes a pdf about another similar device as saying 7 |
| 23:10.08 | *** join/#wowuidev max000000 (i=443702da@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a22fef2f95511d28) |
| 23:10.26 | Lopeppeppy | 3 years, 7 years, billions! |
| 23:11.26 | Kraps | gah just rememberd that i still need itemrack |
| 23:11.35 | Lopeppeppy | Do you, Kraps? |
| 23:11.47 | Lunessa | Don't you get it? The world is static and unchanging. We'll be able to do the "Broken Authenticator" quest for decades! |
| 23:12.00 | Lopeppeppy | admires Lunessa's wisdom and insight. |
| 23:12.58 | Kraps | well. i like the feature that when you hover over an item slot theres a popout with everything you have for that slot |
| 23:13.03 | Lunessa | passes out leaflets explaining that Dry Wit and Sarcasm are the paths to true joy, but one can always substitute Righteous Indignation. |
| 23:13.57 | Kraps | Lunessa: satire is the best form of humor, hands down |
| 23:14.13 | mikma | p3lim: so explain me, How are you planning to find out who did this? |
| 23:14.20 | Lunessa | That's why it translates as "laughter with knives" |
| 23:14.28 | Kraps | really? |
| 23:14.41 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, knives |
| 23:14.49 | p3lim | mikma: been tracing him through the trojan he somehow sneaked into my comp |
| 23:15.17 | Jamash | You can get the list of everything you have for a slot with the Blizzard equipment manager if you hold down Alt |
| 23:15.18 | mikma | p3lim: and this will help you.. how? |
| 23:15.26 | Jamash | REVENGE! |
| 23:15.42 | Kraps | The word satire comes from Latin satura lanx and means "medley, dish of colourful fruits" - it was held by Quintilian to be a "wholly Roman phenomenon" (satura tota nostra est) |
| 23:15.51 | p3lim | sending the IP and info to blizzard, or perhaps sue |
| 23:16.00 | p3lim | it is theft afterall |
| 23:16.10 | Kraps | HOLY CARP I LOVE YOU JAMASH |
| 23:16.22 | Kraps | ahem |
| 23:16.28 | Lopeppeppy | If everything were that black and white. *laugh* |
| 23:16.34 | Lunessa | Kraps: http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/634642?view=synopsis |
| 23:16.56 | mikma | p3lim: and you think that will prove / help? |
| 23:16.58 | Jamash | Kraps: :D |
| 23:17.20 | p3lim | it will ease my anger :) |
| 23:17.28 | Kraps | Lunessa: that is a good term though |
| 23:18.01 | mikma | p3lim: my advice. stop being an idiot and let the whole thing go. the person why assraped you is smarter than you are obviously |
| 23:18.27 | Lunessa | Kraps: I think the it's the Chinese who have a character that is used for 'satire' in translating English that has that meaning. |
| 23:18.35 | p3lim | well if he was that smart he wouldnt have let all this traces after him |
| 23:18.37 | p3lim | would he? |
| 23:18.40 | mikma | sure, trojan connects to something. but i'm sure it ain't his own pc |
| 23:19.18 | mikma | have you even checked who owns the address it connects? |
| 23:19.34 | p3lim | i could match the ip with an adress, even find the MAC number of the computer he has |
| 23:19.51 | Lopeppeppy | It's not his computer, what does he care? |
| 23:20.18 | Gnarfoz | mac addresses belong to network cards, not computers AND are freely changable. :P |
| 23:20.18 | p3lim | i am looking into adresses right now, though I can tell by the IP its not a public computer/router |
| 23:20.37 | k1net1k_ | u can change your MAC |
| 23:20.41 | mikma | suuuuuuuure |
| 23:20.45 | Gnarfoz | I just said that, k1net1k_ :p |
| 23:20.48 | Lopeppeppy | You can change your computer. |
| 23:20.54 | mikma | p3lim teh internet detective. |
| 23:21.03 | Gnarfoz | not that MAC adresses are even propagated over the internet ;) |
| 23:21.06 | Lopeppeppy | You can not care because it's a dodgy company who changes this ISP every freakin' day or something. |
| 23:21.09 | p3lim | p3lim the revengeful hacker |
| 23:21.10 | mikma | let us know when you will cry, i wanna be there to watch |
| 23:21.24 | p3lim | sure thing |
| 23:21.59 | Kraps | p3lim: is it even on the same continent? |
| 23:22.06 | p3lim | same country |
| 23:22.24 | mikma | i bet its just his mom at the end |
| 23:22.26 | Gnarfoz | also, keep in mind, that you quite probably were not "targeted" |
| 23:22.29 | p3lim | thats how I can see if the ip is public or not, I work with this stuff daily |
| 23:22.37 | mikma | all she ever wantecd was to spent some time with you |
| 23:22.38 | Kraps | hax |
| 23:22.55 | Gnarfoz | of course his IP is public, otherwise how would anything connect to it from your box? ;P |
| 23:23.06 | mikma | hehe |
| 23:23.14 | mikma | super sekret ip |
| 23:23.25 | Kraps | lets begin the orderly restoration of addons |
| 23:23.39 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: first, stop servers going down in 90mins, arrgh :( |
| 23:24.01 | Kraps | all of em? |
| 23:24.29 | mikma | "<0214> <p3lim> mikma: been tracing him through the trojan he somehow sneaked into my comp" |
| 23:24.38 | mikma | "<0222> <p3lim> thats how I can see if the ip is public or not, I work with this stuff daily" |
| 23:24.49 | p3lim | i work with it, i dont own it |
| 23:24.58 | p3lim | my gear is shit, because I cant afford better |
| 23:26.48 | Kraps | p3lim: get mats to craft better gear |
| 23:27.03 | p3lim | need gold for that |
| 23:27.12 | NeoTron | lol |
| 23:27.15 | p3lim | farming doesnt give much |
| 23:27.27 | mikma | p3lim: what do you do for living if you poke security shit daily? |
| 23:27.32 | NeoTron | so sorry for laughing but it's like addon developers are the "poor artists" of wow |
| 23:27.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@64.193.93.197) |
| 23:27.42 | NeoTron | p3lim: get a job at the WoW equivalent of Starbucks! |
| 23:28.16 | p3lim | i install gear at peoples houses |
| 23:28.23 | p3lim | dont really know the english words for it |
| 23:28.40 | p3lim | service work, i drive around mounting stuff up |
| 23:28.43 | NeoTron | if you want free premium channels, speak to p3lim and he'll hook you up man |
| 23:28.45 | Kraps | internets? |
| 23:28.49 | p3lim | lol |
| 23:29.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Codayus (i=cody@lilly.csoft.net) |
| 23:29.29 | Thunder_Child | is wow down? |
| 23:29.44 | Thunder_Child | ~wowalert |
| 23:29.45 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 23:30.14 | mikma | whats the word in norway then |
| 23:30.34 | kmcguire | Is the wow authentication server down by chance or is my computer foobar? |
| 23:30.46 | Thunder_Child | kmcguire, i nor my friend can get in atm either |
| 23:30.53 | kmcguire | Oh, it must be then. |
| 23:31.02 | Thunder_Child | but it doesnt seem like a usual auth server error |
| 23:31.08 | mikma | kmcguire: maybe the evil norvegian hacker got you too! |
| 23:31.19 | kmcguire | haha, that would suck. |
| 23:31.28 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (n=airtonix@ppp121-45-239-138.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 23:31.30 | Thunder_Child | v? |
| 23:31.51 | mikma | kmcguire: oh, it sucks, just as p3lim! |
| 23:32.01 | kmcguire | Yes, I see what he was talking about. |
| 23:32.02 | mikma | ask* |
| 23:32.06 | Kraps | http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/05/19/authentication-who-needs-that/ |
| 23:32.07 | mikma | lol nice typo |
| 23:32.17 | kmcguire | How did he watch him? Did the guy install something like VNC and play wow from that? |
| 23:32.39 | kmcguire | Oh, nm. |
| 23:32.45 | kmcguire | Used another account? |
| 23:33.28 | p3lim | guildies |
| 23:33.34 | p3lim | + ventrilo |
| 23:33.35 | Lukian | It appears these issues are (surprise surprise) related only to Battle.net accounts, however. |
| 23:33.41 | Lukian | I don't remember converting.. |
| 23:33.44 | kmcguire | p3lim, how did you get the trojan on your computer? |
| 23:33.51 | p3lim | weak security |
| 23:34.02 | foxlit | Lukian: you probably haven't. |
| 23:34.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Patrique (n=chatzill@modemcable153.181-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 23:34.07 | foxlit | "No battle.net account here, and still can't get in on either of my accounts. BLEH!" in wowi comments. |
| 23:34.11 | *** part/#wowuidev Patrique (n=chatzill@modemcable153.181-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 23:34.16 | foxlit | s/wowi/wowins/ |
| 23:34.24 | Lukian | lol I get an insta-disconnect now |
| 23:34.44 | Lopeppeppy | I log in just fine with my battle.net account. |
| 23:34.50 | mikma | weak security? =D |
| 23:35.03 | Lukian | Edit: Okay, not just Battle.net accounts anymore. |
| 23:35.04 | Lukian | hahaa |
| 23:35.05 | mikma | so he was so supercool he remoteinstalled it to you? |
| 23:35.52 | kd3 | "weak security" --> "porn" |
| 23:36.10 | mikma | amen. |
| 23:36.23 | Lukian | auth is up! |
| 23:37.56 | Jamash | retrieving character list... |
| 23:38.19 | Jamash | ah there we are |
| 23:38.20 | Lunessa | kd3: How else are you going to see the video of alien tentacle penetration? I mean, if you're running AV, a firewall, and taking precautions how are those naughty bits going to get to you? |
| 23:40.02 | p3lim | running Eset NOD32 Antivirus 4.0.314, daily updated, through two firewalls that gets IP filtered manually |
| 23:40.16 | Gnarfoz | two firewalls = awesome |
| 23:40.16 | p3lim | though I was at a huge computer party during the easter |
| 23:40.30 | mikma | no |
| 23:40.37 | mikma | you installed some kinky shit |
| 23:40.45 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: breakpoint? dreamhack? hmmm define huge :D |
| 23:40.51 | mikma | admit it and lets get over from it |
| 23:40.51 | p3lim | the gathering |
| 23:40.55 | p3lim | 5,5k |
| 23:41.08 | p3lim | hm kinky shit as in? |
| 23:41.16 | kd3 | rofl. they still haven't fixed the matron/patron switch flying in to brunnhildar |
| 23:41.31 | mikma | as in something that gets you on |
| 23:41.43 | p3lim | kd3: also counts for any kind of shapeshift, like pygmy oil, deviant fish etc |
| 23:41.47 | End | what |
| 23:41.51 | End | the fuck |
| 23:42.13 | p3lim | you mean pr0n mikma? |
| 23:42.23 | kd3 | [19:35:51] <kd3> "weak security" --> "porn" |
| 23:42.25 | mikma | no, porn |
| 23:42.32 | mikma | what kd3 said |
| 23:42.34 | p3lim | yeah, just a misspell |
| 23:42.35 | foxlit | "the mindless button pressing that destroys them of everything that makes them human" << awesome link text |
| 23:43.06 | p3lim | i have dvds, so no webby for that |
| 23:43.19 | Thunder_Child | class specific quests dont count for quest achivements do they |
| 23:43.30 | Lunessa | The internet is for porn. Srsly |
| 23:43.43 | p3lim | so is the cable network |
| 23:43.47 | Lopeppeppy | Ready, normal people? |
| 23:43.49 | p3lim | aint got adult channel do you? |
| 23:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | TC, why would they not? |
| 23:44.18 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, on a new char under quests (in achivements) it says 'complete 50 quests' and i have 16/50 but for 'loremaster of eastern kingdoms' it shows 13/700 |
| 23:44.21 | p3lim | only daily quests and pvp quests are ignored i think |
| 23:44.37 | Thunder_Child | the only things i have done are starting quests and class specific ones |
| 23:44.47 | End | well, I know class don't count for loremaster :P |
| 23:44.48 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe some of your quests didn't count for eastern kingdoms, even if starting quest. |
| 23:44.56 | Lopeppeppy | Draeni figures are around for lower levels now. |
| 23:45.10 | Lopeppeppy | And there you go, End says they don't count for loremaster. |
| 23:45.31 | p3lim | well im off |
| 23:46.07 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, I need to take this broken knee to bed and see if I can get any sleep. Arrrgh for being old and creaky. |
| 23:46.16 | mikma | buhahahahahahhahahahahha p3lim got "hacked" !! |
| 23:46.38 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-69-204-184-95.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:50.25 | Thunder_Child | <will LARP for gold> |
| 23:59.23 | Cairenn | wait, what? p3lim got hacked? |
| 23:59.42 | mikma | cairenn: yes! funny! |
| 23:59.49 | mikma | "hacked" =D |
