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| 00:05.03 | dardack | ok i'm gonna take your guys advice and upload that mouseover threat mod, just 1 thing, what license are you all mostly using lately? Apache? |
| 00:05.54 | Cairenn | more and more have gone back to ARR because of the whole WM thing |
| 00:06.01 | dardack | ARR? |
| 00:06.10 | dardack | yea i was thinking of the WM thing |
| 00:06.11 | Cairenn | All Rights Reserved |
| 00:06.31 | Cairenn | ie don't put any license in, or specifically license it ARR |
| 00:06.33 | Thunder_Child | just like pirates |
| 00:06.56 | Cairenn | if you don't include a license, it is automatically ARR |
| 00:07.51 | dardack | ahh so if i leave it blank it's implicily implied ARR, thanks Cairenn |
| 00:08.17 | Cairenn | yeah, if you want it to be ARR, then just don't include anything |
| 00:08.39 | dardack | thanks, was googling for a common license for ARR to include, but that solved that |
| 00:08.45 | Taroven | http://notalwaysright.com/de-ting-de-ting/308 |
| 00:08.46 | Taroven | ... |
| 00:08.54 | dardack | not that i thnk anyone will use this, but everyone this monring encouraged me to upload it, so |
| 00:08.56 | Taroven | I... had that happen once... |
| 00:09.43 | Taroven | (not exactly that, but very very close) |
| 00:10.05 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 00:10.07 | dardack | that's hilaroius |
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| 00:10.48 | dardack | oh and no 7z files only zip or rar? |
| 00:11.05 | Cairenn | yes |
| 00:11.08 | dardack | kk |
| 00:11.19 | dardack | wish everyone used 7z |
| 00:11.33 | Cairenn | it's hard enough to explain rar to most end-users, let alone screwing them up completely by going to 7z |
| 00:12.22 | Cairenn | .zip is standard on most PCs if they're running a version that has been around in the last decade |
| 00:12.47 | NightHawkTheSane | course, if os's would get off their ass and just build in an extraction app that handled everything, it wouldn't be a problem :P |
| 00:12.57 | Cairenn | trying to explain .7z or .tar or ... zomg |
| 00:13.09 | Cairenn | yeah, well ... :) |
| 00:13.55 | Elly | it turns out "everything" is a pretty big set, because everyone and their mother has invented a compression algorithm :P |
| 00:14.09 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:14.40 | Elly | in particular, the RAR license only permits a few programs to create RAR files :( |
| 00:15.50 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yes, but you can get pretty close to everything with not-actually-that-many different formats. |
| 00:16.02 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.05 | Pneumatus | 7z > * |
| 00:16.10 | Elly | you can get pretty close to everything with ZIP, given windows' continuing >80% market share :P |
| 00:16.15 | Elly | Pneumatus: how so? |
| 00:16.19 | Cairenn | huggles |Jelly| |
| 00:17.22 | Wobin | hm, is there an addon that shares calendar events across server toons? |
| 00:18.04 | Pneumatus | well, not specifically 7z, but 7z's zip tends to have a pretty good compression ratio |
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| 00:19.07 | Elly | uses tar czf unless she has a particular reason not to |
| 00:19.20 | Kaso | cjf imo |
| 00:19.34 | Pneumatus | i like 7z especially though because it's windows cli client is good |
| 00:20.28 | Pneumatus | and despite windows being able to create zips by default, it cant do them on the commandline without some scripting |
| 00:20.39 | Elly | I haven't touched a windows machine in years, so that is not a factor in my choice :) |
| 00:20.49 | theorbtwo | Pneumatus: Or googling for windows zip. |
| 00:20.58 | theorbtwo | OK, windows command line zip. |
| 00:21.36 | Pneumatus | point being, you need additional software |
| 00:21.41 | theorbtwo | True. |
| 00:22.02 | theorbtwo | It's the format windows people are most likely to be able to deal with. |
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| 00:33.25 | Pneumatus | heh, looks like compressing a 200mb text file bz2 is the best compression |
| 00:33.44 | Wobin | wow |
| 00:33.45 | Wobin | http://www.mattmiller-photography.com/v5/image/pride/endless/index.htm |
| 00:33.55 | Pneumatus | 7mb bz2, 11mb 7z, 15mb zip |
| 00:33.57 | Wobin | that's a really good family portrait of the Endless |
| 00:34.52 | mikma | wobin: who or what is the endless |
| 00:34.58 | Wobin | mikma: zomg |
| 00:35.18 | Wobin | mikma: you need to go buy or loan the graphic novels |
| 00:35.24 | Wobin | (that's a fancy adult term for comics) |
| 00:35.35 | Wobin | Neil Gaiman wrote them |
| 00:35.51 | mikma | Porn? |
| 00:35.54 | Wobin | No |
| 00:36.16 | mikma | Porn? |
| 00:36.17 | Wobin | I'd say get it from the internets....but Neil Gaiman is a very cool author |
| 00:36.37 | Wobin | So get it from the internets, but buy the books later =P |
| 00:36.47 | mikma | is it porn? |
| 00:36.56 | Wobin | Did you miss the 'No'? |
| 00:37.00 | Wobin | cause 'No' |
| 00:37.03 | dardack | Arrowmaster: really wanna say thanks with the OnTooltipSetUnit, works like a charm |
| 00:37.04 | mikma | no |
| 00:37.13 | Wobin | Well done! |
| 00:37.19 | mikma | but i only buy / loan porn |
| 00:37.30 | Wobin | what kind of weirdo are you? |
| 00:37.32 | Taroven | Mmm, loaned porn. |
| 00:37.34 | dardack | on a note related, it seems when I use OnToolTIpSetUnit it colors the mobs name in Yellow instead of say red if the mob is red, is there a fix for that? |
| 00:37.39 | Wobin | porn should be the last thing you buy/borrow =P |
| 00:37.53 | mikma | wobin: wy is that? |
| 00:38.00 | Taroven | No kidding. I thought that's what the interwebs were for. |
| 00:38.08 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 00:38.21 | Wobin | porn is the easiest thing to get free on the web |
| 00:38.26 | mikma | but good porn is hard to find! |
| 00:38.32 | Wobin | also... loaned porn? Who knows where it's been!? |
| 00:38.57 | mikma | who cres, just as long as you wash your hands |
| 00:39.07 | mikma | cares* |
| 00:39.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: that's neat (the portrait) |
| 00:39.49 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Isn't it? =) |
| 00:39.50 | Taroven | Ah, that's what I was looking for. |
| 00:39.54 | Taroven | mikma: http://notalwaysright.com/old-school-hustlers/1704 |
| 00:40.02 | Wobin | mikma: You trust other people to wash their hands? |
| 00:40.07 | kd3 | hm... weird. the rain bands are going in the opposite direction compared to usual |
| 00:40.38 | mikma | wobin: its cool just as long i do! |
| 00:40.39 | Wobin | kd3: Rain is falling up? |
| 00:40.50 | kd3 | out of the southeast instead of the northwest |
| 00:41.09 | Wobin | mikma: that's what the nurses treating Typhoid Mary said |
| 00:41.31 | mikma | wobin: who is that? |
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| 00:47.11 | NightHawkTheSane | so, finishing up the valiant dailies for your 5th city gives you like 5 achievements all at once if you're exalted with every city & argent crusade. |
| 00:48.43 | dardack | hm don't hink i got 5 when it happened |
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| 00:49.50 | NightHawkTheSane | champion of <city>, exalted champion of <city>, champion of <faction>, exalted champion of <faction>, exalted argent champion of <faction> |
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| 01:18.09 | kd3 | so then... what's the betting pool up to for massive failloc outages tomorrow? |
| 01:18.48 | Wobin | tomorrow? |
| 01:19.08 | kd3 | tickets go up at 10am PDT |
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| 01:21.45 | Mikk | doesn't follow at all |
| 01:22.22 | Wobin | ah |
| 01:22.25 | Wobin | blizzcon |
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| 01:35.51 | mikma | http://fukung.net/v/8146/931a055d41ea3b50ba0b5ba030da3584.gif |
| 01:36.31 | AbsolutRayne | I love how thats tagged with Vagina and Marrige |
| 01:36.53 | mikma | ya |
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| 01:37.53 | Gnarfoz | there's videos of those shredding entire computers :> |
| 01:40.58 | Kraftman | nomnomnom |
| 01:41.21 | Kraftman | those things must have some torque :) |
| 01:43.43 | mikma | http://fukung.net/v/12078/5785617962ccfce5d41fc8a9e162c5e7.jpg |
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| 02:17.09 | Osstia | anyone know when Blizzcon tickets actually go on sale? |
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| 02:23.16 | Wobin | rararar |
| 02:23.26 | kd3 | 10 am PDT |
| 02:23.29 | Wobin | I wish my vent connection wasn't so -terrible- |
| 02:23.44 | Wobin | All vent conversation ends up being post fight discussion |
| 02:23.51 | Wobin | cause I'm about 12 seconds out |
| 02:24.10 | Osstia | Thanks kd3 |
| 02:24.16 | Wobin | it -has- however, made me a better tank |
| 02:24.21 | Osstia | i was hoping i wouldn't have to stay up till 1 |
| 02:24.27 | Wobin | cause I can't depend on others for notification of stuff =P |
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| 02:33.23 | dardack | question it seems OnTooltipSetUnit sets the color of the mobs name to yellow even if without using this call it's red, is there a way to fix this? |
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| 02:46.23 | Cairenn | has anyone seen if there is a limit on the number of tickets you can buy for BC this year? |
| 02:46.40 | Osstia | i havent heard of one |
| 02:46.49 | kd3 | 5 per account iirc |
| 02:47.31 | Cairenn | kd3: I know that's what it has been in previous years, but I haven't seen it anywhere |
| 02:47.54 | kd3 | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/events/faq.xml |
| 02:48.02 | kd3 | "There will be a five-ticket limit per household. " |
| 02:48.15 | Cairenn | ah, thanks, missed it |
| 02:49.33 | Torhal | Household? But my house can hold 1756523 tickets! |
| 02:49.47 | Wobin | Torhal counted, last year. |
| 02:50.10 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 02:54.51 | Cairenn | OMG, here we go again! The Murloc is back! https://us.battle.net/account/error.xml |
| 02:57.07 | Duman | heh |
| 02:57.34 | Duman | I wonder if I should just try to buy 5 |
| 02:57.44 | Zyndrome | waiting for the DirecTV offer to come up, but $40 for something I will only use once (+ pet) feels a bit steep |
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| 02:58.58 | Duman | oh 10am PDT start for sales? nice |
| 02:59.08 | Duman | glad I don't have to get up ass-crack early :) |
| 02:59.08 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 02:59.21 | Osstia | should i be worried about ticket availability? |
| 02:59.33 | Duman | if it's anything like last year, yes ;) |
| 02:59.40 | Osstia | shite |
| 02:59.40 | Duman | altho there will be a "second chance" on the 30th |
| 02:59.41 | Cairenn | given how fast they went last year? definitely be worried |
| 02:59.54 | kd3 | rofl. we've got the failoc again? already? |
| 03:00.01 | kd3 | geez... I should've put more in the betting pool |
| 03:00.03 | Cairenn | kd3: yep |
| 03:00.20 | Duman | kd3: you decide yet? :) |
| 03:00.22 | Cairenn | everyone trying to make sure their bnet account and cc are all set up for tomorrow |
| 03:01.13 | kd3 | trying to decide if I can pull in any favors or if I'm going to have to pay my own way this year |
| 03:01.14 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:01.19 | Duman | ahh ;) |
| 03:01.39 | Duman | altho, won't the travel be the most expensive part for you, anyway? |
| 03:01.50 | Duman | or are you trying to pull favors there, too :) |
| 03:02.05 | kd3 | meh, I don't have enough skymiles, no favors to be had there |
| 03:02.05 | Cairenn | they've cut back on the number of tickets the FanSites get, this year |
| 03:02.10 | kd3 | yup |
| 03:02.17 | Cairenn | big time cut back |
| 03:02.22 | kd3 | yup |
| 03:02.42 | Duman | ahh |
| 03:04.33 | Wobin | bah |
| 03:06.02 | kd3 | whee, a failoc of my very own |
| 03:06.07 | kd3 | tomorrow is going to be amusing |
| 03:06.34 | Cairenn | yep |
| 03:08.48 | Osstia | i am cashing in all my miles to fly this year :( |
| 03:15.08 | Cairenn | Sargeras: ping? |
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| 03:19.25 | Shirik | roars |
| 03:23.01 | Jamash | JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET IN THE CAR |
| 03:24.28 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 03:25.43 | End | fuck supression room with no rogue |
| 03:25.50 | Dagmar | I think my coworker is about to wind up mysteriously unable to get into raids. |
| 03:26.02 | Dagmar | He's won rolls against the guild leader three times in a row now in Naxx and Ulduar |
| 03:26.50 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 03:26.51 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:28.04 | Osstia | fuck supression room period |
| 03:28.12 | Osstia | that might be my least favorite trash ever |
| 03:28.28 | Osstia | with the exception of the hallway between the Twin Emps and C'Thun |
| 03:28.32 | Osstia | maybe |
| 03:28.50 | kd3 | I was about to say... if post-emps trash isn't your most-hated you never played in aq40 |
| 03:29.01 | Osstia | its a toss up kd3 |
| 03:32.03 | Torhal | So the PUG I'm in is making its way to Patchwerk, when suddenly we see "Grobbulus sprays slime across the room!" |
| 03:32.08 | Shirik | what suppression room? |
| 03:32.17 | kd3 | bwl |
| 03:32.33 | kd3 | torhal; pulling grobb is fun... especially before they fixed the leash |
| 03:32.42 | kd3 | and there wasn't an exit from naxx outside of dying |
| 03:33.01 | Torhal | Yah, we're right at the slime moat |
| 03:33.16 | Osstia | we had someone in level 60 naxx pay a druid like 50g to moonfire grobbulus when he was out tossing slimes |
| 03:33.39 | Osstia | i still giggle about that. grob pulled EVERYTHING and came after us |
| 03:36.30 | End | anyhow |
| 03:36.44 | End | I think we did clear it faster without the rogue than we ever did at 60 though :P |
| 03:37.42 | End | the supression room I mean |
| 03:37.49 | kd3 | meh, as long as you keep to instants it's not too annoying |
| 03:37.59 | End | it slows you too |
| 03:38.04 | End | you walk at like 30% |
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| 03:43.06 | Ackis | ahhhh i need mountain dew links!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 03:47.19 | Ackis | anyone? |
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| 03:51.17 | Torhal | Ack! I'm stuck at Authenticating! |
| 03:55.35 | Ackis | Torhal: code!!! and mountain dew linkssss |
| 03:56.02 | Osstia | mountain dew links? |
| 03:56.15 | Osstia | since i suck at coding, i should help there lol |
| 03:56.27 | Torhal | Ackis: I'm stuck at Authenticating whilst in a Naxx-25 PUG. |
| 03:56.34 | Torhal | And I didn't get your e-mail. |
| 03:56.36 | Torhal | Blargh. |
| 03:56.39 | Ackis | yah I saw the nasty names you called me in #arl |
| 03:56.41 | Ackis | :P |
| 03:56.54 | Torhal | Ackis: Nasty? That's tame, for you. |
| 03:57.02 | Ackis | lol |
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| 04:10.22 | Ackis | w00t |
| 04:10.28 | Ackis | arl has purl |
| 04:10.30 | Ackis | ~love purl |
| 04:10.31 | purl | If you love purl so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 04:14.06 | Elly | burn? |
| 04:15.22 | Elly | I am trapped in "Authenticating..." :( |
| 04:15.43 | Ackis | i'm in game |
| 04:15.57 | Elly | yeah, I was until a moment ago too |
| 04:16.02 | kd3 | heh... I wonder if people spamming bnet are breaking wow auth too? |
| 04:16.11 | Ackis | bnet? |
| 04:16.14 | Ackis | spamming? |
| 04:16.26 | kd3 | battle.net. their accounts, getting ready to buy blizzcon tickets |
| 04:16.31 | Ackis | ah |
| 04:16.38 | kd3 | in 11:43:20 |
| 04:16.49 | Torhal | Elly: Same here, so I'm assuming the Authentication Servers died. Again. |
| 04:16.53 | Elly | :( |
| 04:17.45 | Elly | back in, w00t |
| 04:18.33 | Torhal | Not I. |
| 04:19.10 | Torhal | Ok, back in. I'm sure Grobbulus is dead. |
| 04:22.49 | Wobin | woo |
| 04:22.53 | Wobin | Rune Etched Nightblade |
| 04:22.54 | Wobin | ... |
| 04:22.57 | Wobin | Now I'll need an offhand |
| 04:23.19 | Wobin | and try out dual wielding =P |
| 04:23.55 | Wobin | absolute shame there were no rogues to take it =\ |
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| 04:42.38 | Wobin | off to see ST! |
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| 04:57.49 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, darth vader is kirk's father! |
| 04:58.38 | kd3 | ahahaha.... "It's now legal in Texas to blast hogs with a 30-06 while cruising in your helicopter [Amusing]" |
| 04:59.36 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 04:59.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Alaskan knockoffs |
| 04:59.56 | kd3 | http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Legislators-Approve-Aerial-Hog-Hunting.html |
| 05:10.16 | |Jelly| | ... that's where I am from |
| 05:22.36 | Shefki | |Jelly|: Have you been hunting pigs from a helicopter? |
| 05:23.10 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 05:23.22 | Fisker- | i hello'd |
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| 05:40.44 | Taroven | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 05:40.46 | purl | cncfanatics <n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 9h 41m 43s ago, saying: 'nicoli_s: haven't read the details, i'm not a french citizen, thank god'. |
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| 05:53.39 | Taroven | lua> local i = {1234 = true}; print(i) |
| 05:53.39 | lua_bot | Taroven: luabot:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 05:53.44 | Taroven | Figures. |
| 05:58.12 | Taroven | lua> local i=1234; local x={i=true}; print(x) |
| 05:58.12 | lua_bot | Taroven: table: 0x846baa0 |
| 05:59.17 | End | lua> local i = {[1234] = true}; print(i) |
| 05:59.17 | lua_bot | End: table: 0x8117aa0 |
| 05:59.38 | Taroven | Trying to figure out how the heck these tables are working in EventHorizon |
| 05:59.46 | Taroven | spellframe.interestingCLEU = {SPELL_DAMAGE=true} |
| 06:00.10 | End | SPELL_DAMAGE is probably a constant of some sort |
| 06:00.14 | Taroven | If I'm passing a custom CLEU event, I get " '}' expected near '='" |
| 06:00.17 | End | wait, no |
| 06:00.19 | End | it's a string |
| 06:00.20 | End | duh |
| 06:00.47 | End | are you using a number like your first lua>? |
| 06:01.34 | Taroven | It's getting passed via config table. First thought was "spellframe.interestingCLEU = {config.cleu=true}" but the =true is screwed. |
| 06:02.15 | Taroven | (which makes sense if I think backwards and sideways) |
| 06:03.37 | Taroven | I'm really wondering if I can just get away with skipping the true portion, but I can't be sure. |
| 06:03.52 | Taroven | (grr at trying to duplicate forgotten code) |
| 06:05.02 | Taroven | (test config.cleu at this point is "SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL", btw) |
| 06:06.46 | Taroven | lua> local x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=x; local z={x=true}; print(z) |
| 06:06.47 | lua_bot | Taroven: table: 0x8831ac0 |
| 06:07.23 | Taroven | lua> local c = {}; c. x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=c.x; local z={x=true}; print(z) |
| 06:07.23 | lua_bot | Taroven: table: 0x9cf5a20 |
| 06:07.26 | Taroven | There we go. |
| 06:07.33 | Taroven | I think. |
| 06:08.05 | Taroven | lua> local c = {}; c. x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=c.x; local z={x=true}; print(unpack(z)) |
| 06:08.06 | lua_bot | Taroven: No output |
| 06:08.08 | Taroven | x.x |
| 06:08.51 | Taroven | wtb way to print table contents. |
| 06:10.31 | Taroven | I can hardcode some common CLEU events, but that'd get annoying real quick for anyone trying to do something with it. |
| 06:11.00 | End | oh, sorry, I got distracted |
| 06:11.22 | Taroven | Heh, no worries |
| 06:11.25 | End | and doesn't it have pp or something like that? |
| 06:11.32 | End | lua> pp({1,2,3}) |
| 06:11.32 | lua_bot | End: { 1, 2, 3 } (#1) |
| 06:12.05 | Taroven | lua> local c = {}; c. x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=c.x; local z={x=true}; pp(z) |
| 06:12.05 | lua_bot | Taroven: { ["x"] = true } (#1) |
| 06:12.42 | End | lua> local x = {SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL = true} pp(x) |
| 06:12.42 | lua_bot | End: { ["SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"] = true } (#1) |
| 06:13.42 | Taroven | Oh, wait, I screwed up my test a bit |
| 06:14.02 | Taroven | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.32 | Taroven | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:15.36 | Taroven | lua> local c = {}; c. x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=c.x; local z={y=true}; pp(z) |
| 06:15.36 | lua_bot | Taroven: { ["y"] = true } (#1) |
| 06:16.05 | Taroven | lua> local c = {}; c. x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=c.x; local z={["y"]=true}; pp(z) |
| 06:16.05 | lua_bot | Taroven: { ["y"] = true } (#1) |
| 06:16.18 | Taroven | lua> local c = {}; c. x="SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local y=c.x; local z={[y]=true}; pp(z) |
| 06:16.19 | lua_bot | Taroven: { ["SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"] = true } (#1) |
| 06:16.22 | Taroven | THERE we go |
| 06:17.12 | Taroven | Bruteforce programming ftl. |
| 06:20.06 | Taroven | and now to adapt it... |
| 06:22.31 | Taroven | lua> local cleu = "SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"; local spellframe = {}; spellframe.interestingCLEU = {["SPELL_DAMAGE"]=true}; spellframe.interestingCLEU[cleu]=true; pp(spellframe) |
| 06:22.31 | lua_bot | Taroven: { ["interestingCLEU"] = { ["SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL"] = true, ["SPELL_DAMAGE"] = true } (#2) } (#1) |
| 06:22.41 | Taroven | wewt. |
| 06:23.32 | Taroven | Sorry for all the spam. purl isn't working via pm lately for me. =\ |
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| 06:36.23 | durcyn | what's purl have to do with lua_bot |
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| 08:45.04 | Alfuin | hello |
| 08:45.31 | Alfuin | anyone? :P |
| 08:50.02 | Alfuin | Cairenn |
| 08:50.14 | Cairenn | hi |
| 08:50.20 | Alfuin | good |
| 08:50.32 | Cairenn | what's up? |
| 08:50.32 | Alfuin | just wondered if there is some problems at wowint site |
| 08:50.46 | Cairenn | like what? |
| 08:50.48 | Alfuin | as mods don't seem to get approved |
| 08:51.00 | Cairenn | compilation? |
| 08:51.16 | Alfuin | posted an addon named HelpMeButton under this username |
| 08:51.21 | Alfuin | been 30 hours |
| 08:52.00 | Cairenn | what are you talking about? it was approved last night at 12:30 |
| 08:52.05 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13466-HelpMeButton.html |
| 08:52.28 | Alfuin | why does it not say approved in mymods overview? |
| 08:52.54 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13466-HelpMeButton.html |
| 08:53.07 | Cairenn | errr, sec |
| 08:53.19 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=130518 |
| 08:53.24 | Cairenn | was the link I meant to give |
| 08:53.30 | Cairenn | shows in your list there |
| 08:53.59 | Alfuin | oh! |
| 08:54.03 | Alfuin | :P |
| 08:54.15 | Alfuin | flushed firefox cache |
| 08:54.17 | Cairenn | PEBKAC? |
| 08:54.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:54.23 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 08:54.30 | Cairenn | yup, pebkac ;) |
| 08:54.33 | Alfuin | sorry to bother you with trivial stuff |
| 08:54.43 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, it's always pebkac |
| 08:54.51 | Cairenn | not a problem, I'd rather you check and it be okay |
| 08:55.05 | Cairenn | than not check and there is actually a problem |
| 08:55.12 | Cairenn | :) |
| 08:55.29 | Thunder_Child | Alfuin, i would suggest "the Help menu has none" rather then "the Help menu have none" |
| 08:55.41 | Thunder_Child | but it's sematics |
| 08:55.46 | Thunder_Child | semantics* |
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| 09:00.34 | Alfuin | thunder, spelling on the decription on the site is not my top prio, i will fix it when i make an update |
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| 09:04.53 | Alfuin | ok, "problem" with wowint (cache flush) is fixed, but it does not update on incgamers :( |
| 09:06.35 | Fisker- | ahurr |
| 09:08.00 | Fisker- | damn |
| 09:08.06 | Fisker- | Office 2010 is neat |
| 09:09.58 | Cairenn | yeah, no sign of it on incgamers |
| 09:10.15 | Cairenn | and lothaer isn't in channel atm to poke |
| 09:12.29 | Aqua | hey i've been out of it for a while but is minion in open beta? |
| 09:13.32 | Alfuin | minion? :S |
| 09:13.55 | Aqua | Shrik's addon manager |
| 09:14.10 | Alfuin | ah, I just use ACP |
| 09:14.11 | Cairenn | hopefully sunday |
| 09:14.40 | Aqua | acp? |
| 09:14.49 | Cairenn | I just know that we did make a couple major changes over the last week, so it may get pushed back, I'm not sure |
| 09:15.10 | Alfuin | Addon Control Panel |
| 09:15.19 | Aqua | Alfuin: Ah |
| 09:15.22 | Thunder_Child | Alfuin, it's an addon updater |
| 09:15.25 | Thunder_Child | not an addon |
| 09:15.29 | Alfuin | oh right |
| 09:15.37 | Alfuin | like curse client |
| 09:15.42 | Aqua | I'm just at home again and bored |
| 09:17.01 | Alfuin | i think it is fine they have a regular and a premium version of curse client, but don't cripple the regular version!!! just remove ads in the premium version :P |
| 09:18.00 | Alfuin | people is more than willing to pay for premium if they get rid of ads, and maybe get a few other benefits (like the avatar) |
| 09:18.29 | Cairenn | Alfuin: just a warning, most of us are sick to death of all this sort of stuff |
| 09:18.53 | Alfuin | ok, don't want me to talk about it... i get it |
| 09:18.55 | Cairenn | and I'm really trying to keep it OUT of the channel |
| 09:18.56 | Alfuin | dropped |
| 09:18.58 | Fisker- | http://www.ggmania.com/?smsid=27162 <-heh fail |
| 09:19.08 | Cairenn | talk about it all you want - on the Curse forums |
| 09:19.11 | Fisker- | 3DR never got any money |
| 09:19.16 | Alfuin | sorry O:-) |
| 09:19.18 | Cairenn | leave it our of our sanctuary :) |
| 09:19.37 | Thunder_Child | s/our/out/ |
| 09:19.48 | Cairenn | s/our/out/ |
| 09:19.55 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 09:20.32 | Thunder_Child | really Cairenn? i didnt even know you were trying to keep it out...shows how much i have been paying attention |
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| 09:24.26 | Alfuin | forgive an ignorant soul for not knowing new rules since last visit |
| 09:24.49 | Thunder_Child | pfft, i havent left and i dont seem to know them |
| 09:25.03 | Thunder_Child | not that i really follow the ones that are in place as it is |
| 09:26.02 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 09:26.14 | Cairenn | not upset with anyone, just saying :) |
| 09:26.39 | Cairenn | we've all had so much crap to deal with in the last two months, we need somewhere we can be without having to deal with any more of it |
| 09:27.24 | nevcairiel | how about, offline? :) |
| 09:27.36 | Cairenn | pokes nevcairiel |
| 09:28.15 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel, you know better than to make words up |
| 09:29.40 | Aqua | how about in the hospital offline |
| 09:30.22 | Alfuin | mental hospital |
| 09:30.33 | Aqua | broke both legs.... |
| 09:30.40 | Alfuin | oh :P |
| 09:30.49 | Cairenn | not much call for that around here Alfuin |
| 09:30.55 | Alfuin | thought it was a joke |
| 09:31.05 | Cairenn | after all, that'd require having brains |
| 09:31.22 | nevcairiel | all the zombies ate ours |
| 09:31.34 | Alfuin | braaaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnsssssss |
| 09:32.23 | Alfuin | is AnduinLothar same as Lothaer? |
| 09:33.19 | zenzelezz | no |
| 09:33.34 | airtonix | Sir Lancelot: [Bursts into the Prince's room and kneels before him after killing the guards] Oh, fair one, behold, I am you humble servant Sir Launcelot. I have come to take... [looks up and realizes that he is kneeling before an effeminate Prince, not a Princess] |
| 09:33.34 | zenzelezz | AnduinLothar is sometimes KarlKFI though |
| 09:33.47 | Cairenn | okay, sleep for me |
| 09:34.01 | Thunder_Child | lies Cairenn |
| 09:34.07 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: let me know if you need a hand |
| 09:34.21 | Cairenn | don't forget, BlizzCon tickets go on sale in 7.5 hrs |
| 09:34.30 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: ;) |
| 09:34.48 | Alfuin | can't get tickets there, got to get tickets to the US aswell |
| 09:35.44 | Alfuin | blizz gief moar cons in euro!! |
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| 09:47.29 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 09:47.33 | Fisker- | did i travel back in time? |
| 09:49.06 | Alfuin | yes, welcome to the year 2009, man of the future |
| 09:49.39 | Alfuin | what wonders may you tell us of your time? |
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| 10:49.46 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 10:49.46 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=136206#post136206 |
| 10:49.50 | jnwhiteh | ... |
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| 10:54.47 | Industrial | hm |
| 10:55.05 | Industrial | should I use grid or grid2 |
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| 12:05.02 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: suggest to them to look into oUF |
| 12:08.18 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh |
| 12:08.21 | Fisker- | my balls |
| 12:08.24 | Fisker- | i want them bigger |
| 12:10.35 | Fisker- | are you going to blizzcon jnwhiteh ? :3 |
| 12:14.38 | airtonix | massive glistening globes |
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| 12:20.23 | Mikk | Industrial: the answer is Grid. Grid2 is nowhere near functional. |
| 12:20.32 | Fisker- | Grid2 is shit anyways |
| 12:20.36 | Fisker- | even if it was functional |
| 12:20.38 | Fisker- | oh yeah |
| 12:21.28 | Mikk | Personally I was always of the opinion that refactoring exisiting code is better for a whole slew of reasons |
| 12:21.33 | Mikk | But I know there's some that don't agree =) |
| 12:21.49 | Mikk | Okay... there's exceptions to the rule >.< |
| 12:22.06 | Mikk | Like... not wanting 75% of the functionality (Ace2->Ace3) |
| 12:22.10 | TwN | Dotted, were you on #wow-europe on quakenet? |
| 12:23.01 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: yes, I'm going to BlizzCon |
| 12:23.10 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: suggest to look what up on iUF? |
| 12:23.12 | jnwhiteh | oUF i mean |
| 12:23.15 | Fisker- | How do you know? |
| 12:23.21 | Fisker- | What if i go to Blizzcon as well |
| 12:23.29 | Wobin | he appears to want unitframes that do tricks |
| 12:23.42 | Wobin | oUF could do that if he wrote them to do so, probably |
| 12:24.55 | Industrial | Mikk: ok |
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| 12:46.02 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: .. because i'm cool |
| 12:46.24 | Fisker- | but i may still just suddenly appear |
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| 12:49.30 | Dotted | TwN no |
| 12:49.37 | Dotted | but i am on quakenet |
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| 12:51.52 | Dotted | and your nick seems familiar TwN |
| 12:52.10 | jnwhiteh | does anyone know offhand how to find out if a GUID is in your party or raid? |
| 12:53.26 | jnwhiteh | oh nvm |
| 12:53.28 | jnwhiteh | sourceFlags |
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| 13:35.58 | foxlit | So, quiz time |
| 13:36.05 | foxlit | GameTooltip:SetBackdrop(nil) |
| 13:36.14 | foxlit | What does GameTooltip:GetBackdrop() return? |
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| 14:23.01 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: nil |
| 14:23.05 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 14:23.08 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: wrong |
| 14:23.20 | jnwhiteh | actually, that is precisely what it returns |
| 14:23.26 | jnwhiteh | I've just done it in game |
| 14:24.04 | nevcairiel | mine returns some backgroudn info |
| 14:24.08 | nevcairiel | with a visible tooltip, that is |
| 14:24.11 | jnwhiteh | precisely, it returns _nothing_ |
| 14:24.12 | jnwhiteh | not nil |
| 14:25.35 | foxlit | To answer "why?": because it breaks :SetBackdrop(:GetBackdrop()) in new and exciting ways |
| 14:27.16 | jnwhiteh | okay.. |
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| 14:53.19 | iewnait | hi guys, anyone know how i can get the role of a player in the LFG system? |
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| 14:55.35 | iewnait | the current api GetLFGRoles seem to only allow u to get the Role of the user themselves but not others? |
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| 14:58.13 | iewnait | anyone has any idea? |
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| 15:00.51 | jaxdahl | look at the blizzard UI and see how they do it? |
| 15:01.06 | iewnait | hmz ok i will |
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| 15:40.11 | cncfanatics | bloody hell, installing world of warcraft takes soooooooo long :( |
| 15:40.28 | Fisker- | naw |
| 15:40.38 | cncfanatics | (I'm using the downloader/installer) |
| 15:41.17 | Fisker- | downloading world of warcraft takes sooooooooooooo long |
| 15:41.20 | Fisker- | hai |
| 15:41.36 | cncfanatics | true enuff |
| 15:41.45 | Fisker- | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/25/17222932252-armory-down-temporarily-please-read.html <-they mean business :o |
| 15:42.18 | nevcairiel | stupid blizzcon, not only that i can't go because its way over in the US, now they even take ma armory down for it =P |
| 15:43.41 | Demos_Sema | if you think wow is bad try the age of conan download |
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| 15:45.18 | cncfanatics | Demos_Sema: how big is it ? oO |
| 15:45.25 | Fisker- | anyone with the european 3.1.2 PTR client? |
| 15:45.36 | Demos_Sema | I think about 32gb |
| 15:46.56 | cncfanatics | omfg |
| 15:47.41 | Demos_Sema | maybe more with patching |
| 15:49.27 | Fisker- | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8053596.stm |
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| 15:54.56 | Duman | hmm |
| 15:56.19 | _rane | is there an addon that creates casted debuffs/buffs as progress bars on the screen and those bars can be clicked to recast the spell on the target? |
| 15:56.52 | nevcairiel | thats not possible anymore |
| 15:57.10 | nevcairiel | not in combat, anyway. |
| 15:57.17 | Demos_Sema | try smartBuff, that will warn you when you should recast and then do it for you |
| 15:57.22 | Fisker- | hay nevcairiel |
| 15:57.27 | Fisker- | got 3.1.2 PTR? |
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| 15:57.32 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 15:57.41 | Fisker- | check the realmlist for me :o |
| 15:57.42 | Demos_Sema | oh is it good? |
| 15:57.47 | Fisker- | check if realmlistbn is filled out |
| 15:58.10 | nevcairiel | what is filled out? |
| 15:59.00 | Fisker- | realmlistbn |
| 15:59.08 | Fisker- | should say eu.logon.battle.net or something like that |
| 15:59.12 | Iriel | _rane: I think I agree with nevcairiel's opinion on that, the challenge is creating the buttons appropriately, though you might be able to create a special cast button that spawns progress tracking and re-clickable buttons when used - the down side will be that you'd create a button for a failed cast as well as a successful one. |
| 16:00.15 | Demos_Sema | oh geez does this mean that bn accounts will be requiered? |
| 16:02.44 | Fisker- | at some point yeah |
| 16:03.03 | Bruners | hi Fisker- |
| 16:03.18 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: its empty |
| 16:03.23 | Fisker- | damn |
| 16:03.25 | Fisker- | hey Bruners |
| 16:03.43 | Demos_Sema | :( |
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| 16:11.39 | Alfuin | got a keybinding problem, anyone good at this? |
| 16:12.15 | zenzelezz | your question is too vague |
| 16:12.22 | Alfuin | hehe |
| 16:13.21 | Alfuin | ok, i used bindings.xml and added bindings for a function, it appears as planned in the keybindings window, problem is, I want to assign a keybinding to it, but it fails to work. |
| 16:13.26 | Alfuin | SetOverrideBinding(HelpFrameButton, true, "Shift-+", "ToggleHelpFrame"); |
| 16:13.56 | Alfuin | shift-+ is same as "?" on my keyboard, dunno on US keyboards |
| 16:14.22 | Iriel | Hm, you sure you want an override binding? |
| 16:14.44 | Alfuin | it is just a test first, i want to set it if not changed by user |
| 16:14.59 | Alfuin | that i can fix, but first i need to know i can set it :( |
| 16:15.53 | Iriel | I suspect it's a matter of finding the right key name |
| 16:16.11 | Iriel | on a US keyboard, the key is SHIFT-= because + is a shifted = |
| 16:16.20 | Iriel | (or NUMPADPLUS, if it's on the number pad) |
| 16:16.57 | Iriel | I usually recommend binding the interesting key to some known action and seeing what the game says |
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| 16:17.23 | Demos_Sema | anything activating my account with WotLK could do for a level 34 toon? |
| 16:17.39 | Iriel | e.g. bind it to say "REPLY", then do /run print(GetBindingKey("REPLY")) |
| 16:17.46 | Iriel | Demos_Sema: Not really, beyond the cool factor 8-) |
| 16:18.26 | ddollar | anyone know if it's possible to get a count of an item from my last AH scan using the auctioneer api? like i want to know how many auctions of peacebloom were there |
| 16:18.29 | Iriel | Demos_Sema: though I guess you could get someone to port you to dalaran |
| 16:18.36 | Cairenn|afk | everyone ready for the insanity in the next 45 mins? |
| 16:18.37 | zenzelezz | Demos_Sema: you could corpse-run to Icecrown Citadel |
| 16:18.41 | Iriel | ddollar: It's POSSIBLE, i'm not sure how easy |
| 16:18.55 | Demos_Sema | hehe |
| 16:18.56 | Alfuin | could SetBinding("SHIFT-+", "TOGGLEHELPFRAME"); work? |
| 16:18.58 | ddollar | anything that could point me in the right direction? im lost on the wiki :) |
| 16:19.26 | Iriel | Alfuin: Does your binding show up in the key bindings menu? |
| 16:19.33 | Alfuin | yes |
| 16:19.43 | Iriel | Alfuin: Can't you just bind your key there for now? |
| 16:19.48 | zenzelezz | ddollar: are you talking about stock UI auction-house API or are you talkign about the addon Auctioneer's API? |
| 16:19.51 | Alfuin | for now, yeah, i could |
| 16:19.52 | Demos_Sema | is there a mod that would automaticly display a sort of onscreen keybord woth all may binds, think optimus keybord for cheep |
| 16:19.56 | Iriel | Then do the print I suggested, just with TOGGLEHELPFRAME |
| 16:19.56 | ddollar | the addon |
| 16:20.03 | Iriel | that'll at least tell you what the key name erally is |
| 16:20.06 | Alfuin | but i want it pre-set for new users |
| 16:20.13 | Fisker- | What insanity Cairenn |
| 16:20.22 | Cairenn | BC tickets go on sale |
| 16:20.27 | Iriel | ddollar: I'd suggest looking through the auctioneer site, but I dont know the answer offhand |
| 16:20.40 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: you are not prepared |
| 16:20.52 | ddollar | iriel: yeah, im looking but without at least some clue what to look for the wiki is a little hard to navigate.. was just hoping to find an auctioneer pro :) |
| 16:20.54 | Fisker- | I wouldn't call that insanity |
| 16:21.12 | Fisker- | http://www.wolframalpha.com/ <-now that's insanity |
| 16:21.17 | Iriel | ddollar: See if MentalPower is awake perhaps 8-) |
| 16:21.32 | Iriel | Cairenn: I figured i'd get logged into wow in case the deluge takes out the authentication infrastructure |
| 16:21.41 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 16:21.58 | Cairenn | ddollar: try joining #norganna |
| 16:21.58 | zenzelezz | wonders if his word-play went unnoticed |
| 16:22.08 | ddollar | calrenn: thanks :) |
| 16:22.10 | Cairenn | that's the auctioneer/gatherer/enchantrix channel |
| 16:22.14 | Alfuin | damn that didn't work |
| 16:22.35 | Demos_Sema | hehe bc wordplay |
| 16:22.37 | Fisker- | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=n_gger |
| 16:22.38 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 16:22.49 | Fisker- | south park all over again |
| 16:22.54 | Alfuin | i read somewhere that SetOverrideBinding requires a framename, but my addon uses no frames |
| 16:23.02 | Iriel | It requires a FRAME, yes |
| 16:23.26 | Iriel | You could just create a frame to hold the bindings |
| 16:23.30 | Iriel | it doesn't have to be visible or anything |
| 16:23.38 | Iriel | it's just used for an association point |
| 16:23.48 | Alfuin | hm, that might be the problem |
| 16:24.09 | Iriel | But again, an override binding is special, you shouldn't be using that for "regular" bindings |
| 16:24.10 | Alfuin | !api Frame |
| 16:24.10 | lua_bot | Found 162 possible matches for 'Frame'. Please be more specific |
| 16:24.11 | Iriel | use SetBinding for those |
| 16:24.19 | Iriel | !api CreateFrame |
| 16:24.19 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new frame object dynamically (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 16:24.58 | Iriel | For example, a user cannot use the regular key binding frame to replace an override binding |
| 16:24.59 | Alfuin | i just want it to work first, then i figure a way to only set it if not set by the user |
| 16:25.38 | Iriel | When you keep saying 'it doesn't work' - what 'doesn't work' to you see? |
| 16:25.41 | Alfuin | or should i just leave it? |
| 16:25.48 | p3lim | is away: I'm not here right now, leave a message. |
| 16:26.15 | Iriel | Personally I think it's very bad form to set bindings automatically |
| 16:26.16 | Alfuin | i got keybindings to work for it... let the user set it himself :P |
| 16:26.20 | Iriel | You're assuming far too much |
| 16:26.28 | Alfuin | i cba doing more on it XD |
| 16:26.30 | Iriel | For example, what if the user doesn'tw ant that key bound, etc |
| 16:26.38 | Alfuin | true |
| 16:26.47 | Alfuin | atleast now the user got an option |
| 16:26.56 | Iriel | My suggestion would be this... Check (using GetBindingKey) if it has a binding yet |
| 16:26.57 | Alfuin | and can set the keybinding himself |
| 16:27.00 | Iriel | if not, show a message on load |
| 16:27.07 | Alfuin | good idea |
| 16:27.16 | Iriel | print("Addon BLAH installed, but has no bindings.. set one on the bindings menu") |
| 16:27.30 | Alfuin | thanks for the idea |
| 16:27.38 | p3lim | is away: dont leave messages |
| 16:33.00 | Alfuin | should this work? |
| 16:33.01 | Alfuin | local key1, local key2 = GetBindingKey("TOGGLEHELPFRAME"); |
| 16:33.01 | Alfuin | if (not key1) or (not key2) then |
| 16:33.08 | Alfuin | ... |
| 16:34.36 | Industrial | depends on how you define work |
| 16:34.49 | Alfuin | ah... yeah. no error but not functioning |
| 16:35.23 | Industrial | you probably want not (key1 and key2) |
| 16:35.40 | Alfuin | if not (key1 and key2) ? |
| 16:36.10 | Alfuin | that makes sense |
| 16:36.32 | Industrial | yup |
| 16:37.35 | Alfuin | still does not trigger if neither are set |
| 16:38.26 | Alfuin | oh... :P |
| 16:39.13 | Industrial | lua> a,b=false,false if not (a and b) then print('yes it does') end |
| 16:39.13 | lua_bot | Industrial: yes it does |
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| 16:40.22 | Alfuin | nop... DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage instead of Print did not help |
| 16:41.01 | haste | Alfuin: local key1, key2 = ... -- is how you define two locals |
| 16:41.08 | Alfuin | ok |
| 16:41.11 | Industrial | and that |
| 16:41.14 | Industrial | (:D) |
| 16:42.41 | Alfuin | damn. someway along the way i lost the header of my keybinding :( |
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| 16:47.30 | Alfuin | argh! hate it when something worked fine before, and now it won't work at all :( |
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| 16:51.07 | Duman | hmm, almost ticket time! |
| 16:53.35 | Iriel | I suspect you can get away with if (select('#', GetBindingKey("WHATEVER")) == 0) then ... . end |
| 16:53.49 | Iriel | or just if (GetBindingKey("WHATEVER")) then ... end |
| 16:53.54 | Iriel | no sense in overcomplicating it 8-) |
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| 16:56.14 | Alfuin | perhaps... if not (GetBindingKey("WHATEVER")) then |
| 16:56.34 | Industrial | just print it |
| 16:56.39 | Alfuin | i want it to trigger if no key is set, not if any key is set |
| 16:56.55 | Alfuin | trying to get the addon to work again now |
| 16:57.23 | Industrial | just /run print(GetBindingKey(etc)) and see what you get, if its empty strings then you know what to do |
| 16:58.28 | Alfuin | oh :P |
| 16:58.55 | Iriel | It should return nothing for an unbound action |
| 16:59.40 | Duman | Currently in Queue... |
| 16:59.41 | Duman | Position: 3155 - Estimated time: 21 minutes |
| 16:59.42 | Duman | lol |
| 17:00.28 | Fisker- | Currently in Queue... |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker- | Position: 8322 - Estimated time: 55 minutes |
| 17:00.30 | Fisker- | hurr |
| 17:00.44 | Fisker- | wasn't there only like 10k spots last blizzcon? |
| 17:00.49 | Fisker- | Everything will be sold out in an hour :P |
| 17:00.49 | Duman | ooh, down to 10min |
| 17:00.59 | Fisker- | haha |
| 17:01.04 | Fisker- | stuck just went down 10% |
| 17:01.13 | Duman | I just moved up 3 places |
| 17:01.18 | Cairenn | link? |
| 17:01.19 | Fisker- | this is going to be fun to watch |
| 17:01.20 | Cairenn | not getting it |
| 17:01.41 | Duman | http://www.blizzard.com/store/blizzcon09-tickets.xml |
| 17:01.47 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 17:02.03 | Duman | Position: 2999 - Estimated time: 9 minutes |
| 17:02.05 | Duman | putt putt |
| 17:02.11 | Cairenn | 12040 |
| 17:02.11 | Fisker- | too bad Cairenn! |
| 17:02.15 | Fisker- | You won't get any tickets |
| 17:02.25 | Duman | meh |
| 17:02.28 | Duman | maybe |
| 17:02.34 | Duman | or there's always May 30th |
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| 17:03.14 | ccox | 10:01 AM PDT -- Currently in Queue, position: 11968 |
| 17:03.32 | ccox | Chances of getting a ticket this way: next to zero |
| 17:03.42 | Fisker- | at the current rate tickets will be sold out in 17 minutes |
| 17:03.48 | zenzelezz | well gee, you waited a whole minute, what did you expect? |
| 17:04.06 | Cairenn | the link didn't refresh on the BC page itself >< |
| 17:04.13 | ccox | I didn't wait a whole minute, it took that long to bring up the page and register the button press |
| 17:04.16 | Kaelten | well there is the second batch in a few weeks |
| 17:04.17 | Fisker- | works fine here |
| 17:04.23 | Fisker- | nooo Kaelten |
| 17:04.25 | Fisker- | you ruined my day |
| 17:04.27 | ccox | Cairenn - I was watching the blizzcon page and store |
| 17:04.29 | Cairenn | hey ccox, ltns :) |
| 17:04.47 | Osstia | does anyone know if you can adjust the quantity when you get out of the Queue? |
| 17:04.57 | zenzelezz | ccox: I was joking, thought it was obvious |
| 17:05.02 | ccox | yeah, been busy, mostly on a VPN connection (and the firewalls are getting smarter about blocking IRC, even through relays) |
| 17:05.11 | Cairenn | ccox: =/ |
| 17:05.17 | Cairenn | well, nice to see you, regardless :) |
| 17:05.28 | ccox | Nice to see you, too. |
| 17:05.38 | Cairenn | I'm with Osstia, btw - anyone know if you can change the number of tickets when you actually get through? |
| 17:06.05 | zenzelezz | could you get around the firewalls more easily by using SSL or somesuch? |
| 17:06.42 | ccox | nope, some folks are kinda paranoid |
| 17:06.54 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 17:07.02 | Fisker- | doesn't look like the Cairenn |
| 17:07.10 | Cairenn | Fisker-: bleh, okay |
| 17:07.11 | Fisker- | From this starting page, you’ll be able to select the number of tickets you want to buy from a drop-down menu, and then click a button to immediately enter the ticket queue. |
| 17:07.12 | ccox | and sometimes the workarounds are more trouble than they're worth |
| 17:07.56 | ccox | Quote from last night: "The login troubles must be Blizzard preparing for tomorrows ticket debacle" |
| 17:08.32 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.32 | Duman | stock left |
| 17:08.38 | Duman | plenty left |
| 17:08.41 | ccox | 64% according to my graph |
| 17:08.42 | Fisker- | anyways anything above ~4k is probably unlikely to get any tickets |
| 17:08.45 | Duman | oh, damn |
| 17:08.45 | Cairenn | 79 on my screen |
| 17:08.50 | Fisker- | 64% here as well |
| 17:08.53 | Duman | going fast I guess then |
| 17:09.04 | Kaelten | I'm 2322 |
| 17:09.04 | Duman | or perhaps that does not refresh w/ the time |
| 17:09.05 | Kandoko | 14740 in queue, yeah not getting there this year :) |
| 17:09.10 | Fisker- | It's sold out before 19:20 at the rate i calculated before |
| 17:09.15 | Duman | Kaelten you're right behind me :) |
| 17:09.19 | Duman | Position: 1929 - Estimated time: 6 minutes |
| 17:09.25 | Fisker- | or 10:20 PDT :P |
| 17:09.34 | Cairenn | I'm a good 36 mins out yet |
| 17:09.41 | ccox | same here |
| 17:09.46 | Cairenn | and the stock left just dropped to 63% on my screen |
| 17:09.50 | Osstia | Position: 7394 - Estimated time: 24 minutes |
| 17:09.51 | Fisker- | 60% here |
| 17:10.20 | nicoli_s | oh man, i forgot all this blizzcon stuff is going on sale today |
| 17:10.32 | Fisker- | too bad |
| 17:10.54 | Fisker- | in the meantime play some wheel of fortune with Wolfram: |
| 17:10.54 | ccox | I think they're having another mad scramble for tickets at the end of the month. |
| 17:10.55 | Fisker- | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=n_ggers |
| 17:11.05 | Kaelten | nicoli_s: lol I told you yesterday |
| 17:11.14 | Industrial | slaps Fisker- |
| 17:11.29 | nicoli_s | well im not gonna get tickets, i just looked in irc and saw yall talking bout it |
| 17:11.38 | zenzelezz | if only the topic had said something about when tickets went on sale... ;-o |
| 17:11.40 | Fisker- | it's funny Industrial |
| 17:12.06 | Fisker- | For the next blizzcon they should lock your blizzcon tickets to your account |
| 17:12.06 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 17:12.31 | Industrial | Fisker-: apparently tits are small insectivorous birds. |
| 17:12.46 | Fisker- | true |
| 17:12.55 | nicoli_s | their lottery for tickets reminds me of how they sell phish tickets |
| 17:13.16 | ccox | they *sell* phish tickets? |
| 17:13.25 | ccox | I thought everyone bribed the guards |
| 17:13.35 | ccox | or grabbed some speaker cable and went through the back |
| 17:13.38 | airtonix | isnt pishing a bird thing? |
| 17:13.43 | ccox | or just showed up stoned and got in anyway |
| 17:14.02 | nicoli_s | ccox, don't hate on the hippies for having some sort of process |
| 17:14.16 | ccox | hippies? Oh, I was just recalling... |
| 17:14.31 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:14.42 | airtonix | about some people you saw |
| 17:14.43 | ccox | 46% left |
| 17:14.50 | nicoli_s | im actually going to a phish show in a few weeks |
| 17:14.52 | foxlit | Hm, that's the second time this happens: |
| 17:14.58 | Fisker- | going a bit slow with them tickets now |
| 17:15.15 | foxlit | I run into CoT, get an arcane disruptor |
| 17:15.32 | foxlit | Try to open the OPie quest items ring, and freeze the game. |
| 17:15.40 | Kaelten | 1.4 k to go |
| 17:15.50 | zenzelezz | foxlit: well, it is a *disruptor* |
| 17:15.54 | Kaelten | I was in at 11:48 and got in at 3.5, lol |
| 17:16.02 | ccox | 43% left, position 9790, 32 minutes to go |
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| 17:16.17 | Duman | my % left hasn't updated |
| 17:16.17 | ccox | .... on a cold day in anaheim.... |
| 17:16.53 | Cairenn | I'm showing 43%, Duman |
| 17:17.07 | Fisker- | sell out before jnwhiteh gets any |
| 17:17.09 | Fisker- | pretty please |
| 17:17.16 | jnwhiteh | i have mine already |
| 17:17.16 | jnwhiteh | loser. |
| 17:17.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:17.31 | ccox | Now, the real question is: how many are already up on ebay? |
| 17:17.32 | jnwhiteh | and 60th in line for another batch |
| 17:17.39 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 17:17.48 | Fisker- | what do you want with 5+ tickets? |
| 17:18.09 | Duman | I'm being nice, and only buying the 3 I need |
| 17:18.53 | ccox | (goodie bags listed on ebay, but no tickets yet) |
| 17:18.54 | mikma | lolticketslol |
| 17:18.57 | Fisker- | i'll lurk in the shadows and strike when jnwhiteh gets his tickets |
| 17:19.05 | jnwhiteh | _already have them_ |
| 17:19.12 | jnwhiteh | you're not very good at this game, fisker |
| 17:19.13 | Fisker- | no |
| 17:19.19 | Kaelten | what sucks is you know that there are some people out there who are just buying as much as they possibly can |
| 17:19.20 | Duman | heh |
| 17:19.23 | Fisker- | tickets need to be picked up motherfucker |
| 17:19.28 | Fisker- | i'll strike there |
| 17:19.29 | ccox | yep |
| 17:19.42 | Fisker- | yeah Kaelten |
| 17:19.46 | Fisker- | So as i said :3 |
| 17:19.52 | Fisker- | Lock tickets to b.net accounts |
| 17:19.57 | ccox | position 9315: estimated time 1 hour |
| 17:20.01 | ccox | WTF time? |
| 17:20.03 | Cairenn | ccox: :( |
| 17:20.16 | ccox | 31% left |
| 17:20.17 | Kaelten | 32% left |
| 17:20.22 | Kaelten | and I'm #900 |
| 17:20.32 | Fisker- | you're gonna make it ;_; |
| 17:20.33 | Fisker- | perhaps |
| 17:20.52 | Osstia | ugh, i am still showing 54% |
| 17:21.00 | Osstia | i was excited the pace was slowing |
| 17:21.04 | Duman | Position: 393 - Estimated time: 2 minutes |
| 17:21.07 | Duman | go go gadget |
| 17:21.10 | ccox | You know what's amazing: they made a more @$%^@%# up ordering system than SDCC hotels, and I really didn't think that was possible |
| 17:21.24 | Cairenn | yeah ... I just jumped from 33 min to an hour |
| 17:21.31 | Cairenn | I'm not getting through |
| 17:21.31 | Duman | with my luck, my DSL will die once I get in, and I'll be effed |
| 17:21.47 | Osstia | well hrmmm, the ticket stock % is going UP for me now |
| 17:21.48 | Fisker- | see you at Blizzcon'10 Cairenn |
| 17:21.49 | Fisker- | hohohoho |
| 17:21.54 | Cairenn | Fisker-: :p |
| 17:22.02 | Duman | oh shit, it dropped to 26% |
| 17:22.28 | airtonix | nomnomnom |
| 17:22.42 | zenzelezz | I bet Cairenn has contacts anyway |
| 17:22.44 | Kaelten | 24% |
| 17:22.44 | ccox | On a positive note: the servers haven't crashed yet this year! |
| 17:22.48 | Fisker- | anyways Cairenn you go tell Blizzard |
| 17:22.49 | Kaelten | ccox: lol |
| 17:22.59 | Cairenn | ccox: lol |
| 17:23.07 | Cairenn | Fisker-: it's called press pass ;) |
| 17:23.21 | Nechckn | Anyone know if this is like half the tickets or some other part? |
| 17:23.22 | Duman | weird |
| 17:23.24 | Fisker- | i mean with the goodie bags :P |
| 17:23.28 | Kaelten | Nechckn: not sure |
| 17:23.30 | Duman | the main blizzcon store page says the tickets are in my cart |
| 17:23.30 | Fisker- | Just lock the virtual goodies to the b.net account |
| 17:23.31 | Nechckn | disapppointment meter 21%! |
| 17:24.07 | mikma | so, what are you people doing? |
| 17:24.08 | ccox | Fisker - I don't think that would stop enough people |
| 17:24.18 | Cairenn | mikma: BC tix |
| 17:24.23 | mikma | queueing in server X for.. ? |
| 17:24.27 | Fisker- | well you'd have to sell your accounts then ccox |
| 17:24.32 | Fisker- | and that would make it impossible for the pet |
| 17:24.47 | Fisker- | also you'd have to make an account just for the purpose of reselling it |
| 17:24.48 | ccox | but that's only locking the virtual bits, not the attendance (which I place WAY above a pet) |
| 17:24.57 | Fisker- | true |
| 17:25.13 | mikma | and you need to enter a server for the tickets or whats the deal? |
| 17:25.14 | Duman | Order Complete! |
| 17:25.16 | Fisker- | but if people can't exploit the goodie bags there's not much other to do than attend |
| 17:25.25 | Fisker- | 18% |
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| 17:28.15 | Nechckn | cries |
| 17:28.16 | ccox | I just got bounced out to the blizzard store main page |
| 17:28.31 | Osstia | same |
| 17:28.40 | Cairenn | "The items in your cart have sold out" |
| 17:28.42 | Osstia | looks like tickets are done for today |
| 17:28.43 | Cairenn | CRAP |
| 17:29.01 | Fisker- | and boom goes the dynamite |
| 17:29.05 | Kaelten | Woot |
| 17:29.14 | Fisker- | 8 minutes later than expected |
| 17:29.18 | nicoli_s | get yers kaelten? |
| 17:29.22 | Kaelten | yep |
| 17:29.31 | nicoli_s | are you the only one from the office going? |
| 17:29.38 | Fisker- | whine inc |
| 17:29.40 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 17:29.53 | ccox | I didn't even get an explanation, just kicked out |
| 17:30.01 | ccox | and "your cart is empty" |
| 17:30.12 | Osstia | mine splashed a screen saying the item in my cart sold out |
| 17:30.16 | Osstia | then dumped me |
| 17:30.50 | ccox | NOW there are tickets on ebay |
| 17:31.05 | nevcairiel | of course, loads of people do just that |
| 17:31.59 | airtonix | markup price? |
| 17:32.35 | ccox | Buy It Now for $500, starting bid $125 |
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| 17:32.46 | airtonix | lulz |
| 17:32.56 | airtonix | event is overrated anyway imo |
| 17:33.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... really quite expensive |
| 17:33.04 | Osstia | he will hand you the ticket at the arena |
| 17:33.13 | zenzelezz | "høyt henger de og sure er de" |
| 17:33.18 | Cairenn | ccox: why does that not surprise me? =/ |
| 17:33.21 | ccox | 2 for $999, starting bid $400 |
| 17:33.23 | airtonix | lua> print(string.rep("lolo",20)) |
| 17:33.23 | lua_bot | airtonix: lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololo |
| 17:34.04 | Alfuin | zenzeless: right you are :D |
| 17:34.11 | Cairenn | geez |
| 17:34.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: still have a chance, you know |
| 17:34.50 | Cairenn | I know |
| 17:34.50 | Kaelten | If I bundled a ticket and my murkey code and put them on ebay..... |
| 17:34.51 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 17:34.57 | Cairenn | the next set at the end of the month |
| 17:35.13 | Cairenn | we were just trying to buy some extras, for those that didn't get through |
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| 17:35.23 | Osstia | will trade favors for said ticket Kaelten |
| 17:35.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn should buy me a ticket |
| 17:35.47 | nevcairiel | you should buy me a plane ticket |
| 17:35.55 | Cairenn | not buying anyone a ticket, didn't get through |
| 17:36.19 | Kaelten | ~comfort Cairenn |
| 17:36.20 | purl | There, there, Cairenn. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:36.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:36.39 | Kaelten | Osstia: oh? *chuckles* |
| 17:36.58 | Osstia | he 2 people i wanted to travel with got tickets |
| 17:37.04 | Osstia | i screwed up lol |
| 17:37.13 | Kaelten | well there is another batch in a few weeks |
| 17:37.18 | Osstia | yeah |
| 17:37.31 | Osstia | gonna take a shot at those. hopefully it goes better than this morning |
| 17:37.47 | Cairenn | sold out in less than 1/2 hr |
| 17:37.50 | Cairenn | not surprised at all |
| 17:37.51 | ccox | Want to place bets on that? |
| 17:37.57 | Osstia | 28 minutes by my clock |
| 17:38.05 | Kaelten | yeah, definately better than last year |
| 17:38.05 | ccox | Really, they sold out in less than a minute, because that's when everyone placed their orders |
| 17:38.12 | Cairenn | true |
| 17:38.14 | ccox | the half hour was just all the followthrough |
| 17:38.19 | nevcairiel | some stats would be nice, for how many tickets actually got to people, and how many went to people for ebay |
| 17:38.34 | Cairenn | that'd be heartbreaking nevcairiel |
| 17:38.35 | Kaelten | well I figure about the first 4k people got tickets |
| 17:38.42 | Iriel | Were there any TOS about re-selling? |
| 17:38.49 | Kaelten | there was an agreement |
| 17:38.52 | Kaelten | I didn't read it though |
| 17:38.54 | Kaelten | was in a hurry |
| 17:38.55 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:38.57 | nevcairiel | like those people care |
| 17:39.14 | jnwhiteh | they set it up for reselling this time |
| 17:39.14 | Iriel | Well, blizzard have 2 weeks to get ebay to cancel tickets and revoke them |
| 17:39.20 | jnwhiteh | you don't need a CC to pick them up |
| 17:39.24 | Iriel | if they cared to do so |
| 17:39.26 | jnwhiteh | every attendee gets a separate barcode |
| 17:39.30 | jnwhiteh | and they haev to show photo id |
| 17:39.37 | Kaelten | heh, interesting |
| 17:39.53 | ccox | And some people seem to have it figured out: http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Two-Blizzcon-2009-Tickets_W0QQitemZ250425908057QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Tickets_all_in_one?hash=item3a4e8c1b59&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50#ht_548wt_1167 |
| 17:39.54 | Osstia | but don't you have till mid june to fill out the details on who owns the ticket? |
| 17:40.07 | Cairenn | yup |
| 17:40.10 | Cairenn | June 13th |
| 17:40.34 | foxlit | wru, WWI? |
| 17:41.34 | Fisker- | As i said |
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| 17:41.36 | Fisker- | Lock teh tickets! |
| 17:41.39 | Fisker- | to teh accounts! |
| 17:41.41 | Fisker- | = win |
| 17:42.05 | Cide | that's curse's net? |
| 17:42.15 | ccox | Fisker -= then how do I bring my GF, she's not on my account. |
| 17:42.38 | ccox | Fisker - that would only work if each account could only purchase one ticket |
| 17:42.40 | Cairenn | Cide: better not be! |
| 17:42.41 | Fisker- | You fill in her details when you buy it |
| 17:42.47 | Fisker- | Instead of mid-june |
| 17:42.50 | Fisker- | of in* |
| 17:43.05 | Cide | seems about the right age |
| 17:43.13 | Cide | but I don't think he lives in florida |
| 17:43.18 | ccox | Fisker - and by Oct. I have a different GF :-) |
| 17:43.18 | nicoli_s | he surely doesnt |
| 17:43.24 | Cide | nicoli_s: you know him? |
| 17:43.25 | nicoli_s | and he's not 22 either |
| 17:43.28 | Fisker- | shit sucks ccox |
| 17:43.29 | nicoli_s | cide i work for him |
| 17:43.31 | Cide | ah |
| 17:43.38 | nicoli_s | <- curse DB sites coder |
| 17:43.38 | Fisker- | but october is months away |
| 17:43.53 | Cide | how old is he anyway? |
| 17:44.04 | nicoli_s | probably late 20's i guess |
| 17:44.08 | Kaelten | who net? |
| 17:44.10 | Cide | ya |
| 17:44.11 | nicoli_s | yah |
| 17:44.16 | Kaelten | er, 22 or 23 iirc |
| 17:44.20 | Fisker- | omg |
| 17:44.21 | Cide | I haven't talked to him in a while |
| 17:44.21 | Kaelten | maybe 24 |
| 17:44.23 | Cide | oh wait I win |
| 17:44.31 | Cide | 86 is 22/23 depending on birth date |
| 17:44.34 | Kaelten | I can't remember exactly |
| 17:44.34 | nevcairiel | I'm older then net? funny =P |
| 17:44.34 | nicoli_s | im pretty sure he's older than i am, and im born in 85 |
| 17:44.41 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: I am too, lol |
| 17:44.48 | nevcairiel | you're really old Kaelten =P |
| 17:44.53 | Kaelten | I'm 27 :P |
| 17:45.02 | Cide | OLD. |
| 17:45.04 | Kaelten | ccox: "If you are uncertain of the names of any additional guests, please enter your own name for each unknown attendee, and pick up all of the badges yourself" |
| 17:45.07 | nicoli_s | thats like 50 in wow years |
| 17:45.07 | ccox | (sigh, I'm old enough to be their father....) |
| 17:45.15 | Kaelten | ~comfort ccox |
| 17:45.15 | purl | There, there, ccox. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 17:45.19 | Cide | nicoli_s: wow levels* |
| 17:45.19 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: is your nick not registered? |
| 17:45.25 | Fisker- | oh yeah great idea Kaelten |
| 17:45.28 | Cairenn | no it isn't |
| 17:45.31 | nicoli_s | i thought it was |
| 17:45.33 | Cairenn | growls at nicoli_s |
| 17:45.38 | Kaelten | Fisker-? |
| 17:45.43 | Fisker- | with the tickets |
| 17:45.48 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:45.51 | Fisker- | We need to screw the scammers over |
| 17:45.54 | nicoli_s | will do |
| 17:45.59 | Kaelten | Fisker-: heh |
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| 17:46.09 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 17:46.14 | Cairenn | hugs the Sargeras |
| 17:46.43 | Fisker- | eats grass |
| 17:46.51 | Kaelten | heya Antiarc |
| 17:47.22 | nicoli_s | alright Cairenn, all registered, no more growling if you please |
| 17:47.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by Cairenn |
| 17:47.43 | ccox | cooks up a dark chocolate mousse for Cairenn and tops it with fresh raspberry syrup and whipped cream |
| 17:47.48 | Kaelten | but she's cute when she growls ;) |
| 17:47.49 | Cairenn | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 17:47.58 | Cairenn | purrs at ccox |
| 17:48.45 | Sargeras | no dice on blizzcon tickets today |
| 17:48.50 | Sargeras | maybe on the 30th |
| 17:48.51 | Cairenn | yeah :( |
| 17:48.52 | alestane | Yeah, that should make any woman purr...and most guys, too. |
| 17:48.56 | ccox | Blizzcon tickets on ebay up to $255 for one, $510 for 2 |
| 17:49.22 | Sargeras | screw that |
| 17:49.53 | ccox | oh, and another 4 tickets just got posted |
| 17:50.11 | Kaelten | sad |
| 17:50.36 | Kaelten | well I think one ticket I may have can be rented for attendence, but I'm not sure yet |
| 17:51.11 | nicoli_s | you sound like a blizzcon ticket pimp |
| 17:51.14 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:51.17 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:51.22 | ccox | oops |
| 17:51.32 | Kaelten | more that the guy I bought it for may not actually attend, but he wants the goddie bag regardless |
| 17:51.38 | airtonix | Current bid:US $710.00 |
| 17:51.42 | Sargeras | well I'm going to try for the 30th |
| 17:51.56 | Sargeras | I would really prefer to pay my own way |
| 17:52.04 | Kaelten | nods |
| 17:52.17 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223032361&sid=1&pageNo=3#44 <-ticket scalpers scalp every year |
| 17:52.17 | Sargeras | we'll see |
| 17:52.17 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 17:52.32 | Sargeras | I knew somene who got in from scalping last year |
| 17:52.37 | ccox | one auction sold |
| 17:52.37 | Sargeras | flew all the way from DC |
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| 17:55.20 | ccox | Hmm, earlier I said October for Blizzcon, I meant August - had it confused with another conference |
| 17:55.39 | Cloudwolf | ok i forget is point 0,0 in WoW the middle of the screen? |
| 17:55.51 | Cairenn | should be top left corner |
| 17:55.53 | Iriel | Depends what you're going relative to |
| 17:55.54 | alestane | Lower left. |
| 17:55.56 | Iriel | It's bottom left |
| 17:55.58 | Iriel | logically |
| 17:56.07 | Cairenn | bottom left? |
| 17:56.09 | Iriel | but if you're SETPOINT'ing relative to CENTER, it's the middlle 8-) |
| 17:56.20 | Iriel | Yes, in WoW the origin is bottom left |
| 17:56.26 | Cairenn | weird |
| 17:56.34 | Iriel | Think graph paper |
| 17:56.42 | End | yeah, GetCursorPosition(), :GetLeft(), etc, are all bottom left |
| 17:56.44 | alestane | Follows the same rules as graph paper...positive y is higher, positive x is to the right. |
| 17:57.06 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: several computer graphics APIs also do lower-left 0,0 |
| 17:57.16 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: what parts of wowequip still need work ? |
| 17:57.30 | Cloudwolf | Ty also do the edit boxes support item links? |
| 17:57.37 | Cloudwolf | or is there an option that i have to enable for them to |
| 17:58.37 | ccox | zenzelezz - and many (more ) graphics APIs do upper left as 0,0 (scanline order, in memory order) |
| 17:59.24 | Kaelten | zenzelezz: the default mac coords system does lower left 0,0 |
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| 17:59.56 | zenzelezz | ccox: didn't say that wasn't the case |
| 18:00.41 | Iriel | The choice of origin and axes is largely arbitrary, it tends to depend on where it got started (memory addressing, printing page description, 3D transformation, etc) |
| 18:00.41 | ccox | Keelten - that depends on which API you use :-) |
| 18:00.41 | Kaelten | ccox: yeah, and even with cocoa it's configurable |
| 18:00.41 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics, just some minor stuff, should be beta-able today |
| 18:00.53 | cncfanatics | I'd love to help testing it |
| 18:02.14 | Xinhuan | if u use git u can clone the repo :) |
| 18:02.58 | cncfanatics | on windows now, git is a pain :( |
| 18:03.18 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: tried hg? |
| 18:03.30 | zenzelezz | then there are funky things like TGA, in which any of the cour corners can be the origin |
| 18:03.35 | zenzelezz | *four |
| 18:03.54 | ccox | zenz - and TIFF, and PDF, and PostScript, and .... |
| 18:04.13 | Xinhuan | i'm supposed to have died today |
| 18:04.14 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/wowequip.aspx |
| 18:04.15 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 18:04.24 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223062346&sid=1&pageNo=4#69 |
| 18:04.31 | zenzelezz | ccox: again, I never said it was the only example. I just happen to have worked with TGA, so it was the first one that came to mind |
| 18:04.45 | ccox | just providing more examples |
| 18:04.58 | Fisker- | Who's Xinhauan? |
| 18:05.04 | Xinhuan | i don't know ;p |
| 18:05.17 | Kaelten | Fisker-: I'm always Kaelton for some reason |
| 18:05.20 | ccox | Personally, I think all the lower left systems were created in Australia - because everyone knows they're upside down |
| 18:05.36 | zenzelezz | ccox: fair enough, then I just misinterpreted your way of expressing it |
| 18:06.08 | Fisker- | You should be Kaeltan Kaelten |
| 18:06.21 | Fisker- | I think i'll buy 5 tickets and put them on ebay |
| 18:06.23 | Fisker- | next time |
| 18:06.26 | Fisker- | need money |
| 18:06.42 | nicoli_s | that was my plan i just forgot |
| 18:06.48 | Kaelten | ccox: the docs I've read suggested that different algorithms are easier with different coords systems |
| 18:07.01 | cncfanatics | Kaelten: haven't |
| 18:07.14 | ccox | most algorithms are similar regardless |
| 18:07.33 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17223172368&sid=1#6 <-Oh my, he took the computers offline! |
| 18:07.38 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: the github people have a plugin that lets you use hg to work with git repos |
| 18:07.48 | cncfanatics | oh thats nice |
| 18:07.49 | ccox | but actual addressing and performance - is easiest top left (because then you don't have to do any subtraction or lookups to reverse the vertical axis) |
| 18:07.55 | cncfanatics | will check it as soon as I finished my WoW Install |
| 18:08.03 | Fisker- | Blizzcon should have an age limit of 18 |
| 18:08.04 | Fisker- | BAM |
| 18:08.10 | ccox | (or a matrix multiply to completely hose your pixel access) |
| 18:08.14 | Fisker- | or age requirement that is |
| 18:08.58 | cncfanatics | you should answer a question about advanced quantum physics before being allowed to buy blizzcon tickets |
| 18:09.07 | ccox | cnc - I'll go for that one |
| 18:09.20 | Fisker- | heh |
| 18:09.22 | Kaelten | ccox: yeah I've not done hardly any graphics development like that |
| 18:09.28 | Fisker- | Or Blizzard captcha's |
| 18:09.28 | Kaelten | so I'm not really familar |
| 18:09.42 | Fisker- | "In Warcraft.... please type the answer to continue in queue" |
| 18:10.00 | Fisker- | scalpers would ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu- |
| 18:10.19 | ccox | Kaelten - yeah, that's getting down to a level that most people don't want to think about |
| 18:10.32 | ccox | Kaelten: but when you need performance, somebody has to clean up the mess |
| 18:10.48 | Kaelten | yeah, absolutely |
| 18:10.53 | ccox | Kaelten: fortunately, some algorithms can be tweaked to run in any orientation, by massaging the input a little |
| 18:11.38 | ccox | some, unfortunately, run into numerical problems if you rearrange the input (particularly bad for some 3D algorithms) |
| 18:11.51 | Kaelten | hrm, interesting |
| 18:12.04 | ccox | I'm really glad we have fast scanline rendering hardware these days - so I don't have to write that crap anymore |
| 18:12.07 | Cloudwolf | i love how i started this discussion.... any way another question |
| 18:12.31 | Cloudwolf | do editboxes support item linking or do i have to enable that |
| 18:13.15 | Kaelten | ccox: lol, yeah... Now we have things like wpf where are doing 3d accelerated uis with nothing but xml to back it :s |
| 18:13.40 | Kaelten | s/where are doing/where we can do/ |
| 18:13.41 | ccox | so much for performance... |
| 18:13.53 | ccox | :-) |
| 18:13.55 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 18:14.08 | Shadowed | Anyone played with UnitThreatSituation? :p the wowwiki docs are slightly odd |
| 18:14.08 | Kaelten | yeah, as long as you have a good graphics card it looks smooth, lol |
| 18:14.45 | Kaelten | I've heard that visual studio 2010 is going to be rendered in it |
| 18:14.50 | Kaelten | not sure about that or not |
| 18:15.08 | ccox | I havent' seen much on VS 2010 yet |
| 18:15.10 | Industrial | How do I change grid unit widths and heights? |
| 18:15.20 | ccox | (though I'm not impressed with their compiler) |
| 18:15.45 | Kaelten | heh, I've been learning obj-c and cocoa for the last few weeks, so I'm neck deep in it |
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| 18:15.51 | cncfanatics | anyone got a mirror up with patches since 3.0.1 ? mirrors are being awfully slow :( |
| 18:16.16 | ccox | Obj-C and Cocoa - sounds like you're past the need for hip waders and a shovel |
| 18:16.16 | zenzelezz | Kalroth: neck deep in what, Visual Studio? |
| 18:16.26 | zenzelezz | *Kaelten... |
| 18:16.27 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:16.37 | Kaelten | Kalroth: no obj-c and cocoa |
| 18:17.01 | zenzelezz | well I can see my mistake, but yours makes me wonder |
| 18:17.03 | Kaelten | particullary x-code and interface builder |
| 18:17.36 | Kaelten | ccox: It's really interesting. I just wish I didn't have to support 10.4 |
| 18:17.41 | ccox | ooh, interface builder - so many lessons NOT learned in the past 20 years of UI |
| 18:17.42 | zenzelezz | personally I'm unsure about VS2010 yet, but it sounds interesting (as far as the VC++ part goes) |
| 18:18.16 | ccox | Kaelten: I find it interesting if you're putting together something simple, but the more complex you go, the more you find how incomplete it all is |
| 18:18.17 | Kaelten | ccox: oh? |
| 18:18.30 | ccox | (and untested, undebugged, undocumented...) |
| 18:18.47 | Kaelten | yeah, I've ran across a lot of glarring ommissions in the api |
| 18:19.01 | Kaelten | but what it does it seems to do pretty well |
| 18:19.16 | ccox | It's sort of like they figured out how to put up a single dialog over their command line app, then stopped trying |
| 18:19.38 | ccox | or they put together a big web browser widget, but didn't think anyone else would use it differently from the way they do |
| 18:19.57 | Kaelten | heh, yeah. |
| 18:20.10 | Kaelten | The lack of things like a regex library is very annoying |
| 18:20.26 | cncfanatics | no regexes ? eek |
| 18:20.39 | Kaelten | there is limited match support via predicates |
| 18:20.48 | Kaelten | but that seems to be about it |
| 18:21.16 | cncfanatics | how close are predicates to lua patterns? |
| 18:21.19 | Kaelten | but then I can one line a creation of a string that holds the content of an arbitrary url. |
| 18:21.44 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: they're closer to sql where clauses |
| 18:21.47 | Iriel | Surely you just link in a regex library? |
| 18:21.51 | cncfanatics | OUCH |
| 18:22.05 | Kaelten | Iriel: I've found a few, but there's nothing official from apple |
| 18:22.52 | Kaelten | one has no docs, one is in japanese, one has development paused and the other is a very lightweight subset |
| 18:23.33 | zenzelezz | do Windows or Linux have a built-in regular expressions? |
| 18:23.42 | Kaelten | well .net does |
| 18:23.44 | Kaelten | python does |
| 18:23.46 | Kaelten | ruby does |
| 18:23.50 | Iriel | Java does, these days |
| 18:24.06 | Kaelten | qt, boost, and wx all have regex implementations for c++ |
| 18:24.16 | ccox | (perl is just regular expressions :-) |
| 18:24.25 | zenzelezz | I wasn't aiming at custom libraries |
| 18:24.29 | Kaelten | ccox: bad regex or perl, you decide..... |
| 18:24.38 | Kaelten | zenzelezz: well it's all custom libs |
| 18:24.49 | ccox | Kaelten: you might want to just link in the boost implementation - at least it's got support and active development |
| 18:25.20 | Kaelten | ccox: possible, although I did run across a bug in their stuff on the current Curse Client |
| 18:25.30 | Kaelten | it'd lock up execution depending on the order I compiled the regex's |
| 18:25.46 | ccox | wow, haven't come across that one |
| 18:25.57 | Kaelten | yeah, I was floored |
| 18:26.12 | zenzelezz | tried PCRE? |
| 18:26.35 | ccox | Kaelten meant: yeah, I was std::floor()'d |
| 18:26.44 | Kaelten | ouch |
| 18:26.47 | ccox | sorry, too much C++ |
| 18:26.50 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:27.05 | Kaelten | I do prefer obj-c over c++ |
| 18:27.32 | ccox | Kaelten: it is easier to write, but not even close on performance |
| 18:27.34 | Kaelten | but that may be my background in dynamically typed languages |
| 18:27.55 | ccox | obj-c pays a very high price for it's dynamic (and runtime) typing |
| 18:28.02 | zenzelezz | certain things just annoyed me greatly about Objective-C... all the [] all over the place, the named parameter syntax, and the weird -/+ function definition thing |
| 18:28.03 | Kaelten | yeah, I'm sure. |
| 18:28.16 | foxlit | +/- is common with UML |
| 18:28.22 | Kaelten | but I'm not writing 3d rendering or something else that taxes cpu |
| 18:28.25 | foxlit | named parameters are awesome |
| 18:28.46 | foxlit | [] is meh though, you're right :) |
| 18:28.50 | ccox | Kaelten: Me, I'm taxing the CPU, the cache, the DRAM, the disk, and sometimes the PSU |
| 18:28.56 | zenzelezz | named parameters is a good idea, I just didn't like how it was implemented in Objective-C |
| 18:29.09 | Kaelten | zenzelezz: the brackets get comfortable, I like named args (python background), and the -/+ is kinda cool |
| 18:29.11 | cncfanatics | what exactly is the dynamic typing in obj-C ? I've got no experience with it but saw it brought up a few times over the last couple of days |
| 18:29.33 | zenzelezz | as to +/-, sure they may be common somewhere, but I prefer typing out the more descriptive words they mean |
| 18:29.51 | zenzelezz | Kaelten: to me the brackets are just a thorn in the eye every time I'm forced to do something for the iPhone |
| 18:29.54 | Kaelten | ccox: damn, that's a lot of taxing... |
| 18:30.00 | ccox | yep |
| 18:30.07 | Kaelten | zenzelezz: not worse than -> imho ;) |
| 18:30.25 | zenzelezz | Kaelten: personal opinions |
| 18:30.28 | Kaelten | yeah it is |
| 18:30.33 | Kaelten | neither of us or wrong (or right) |
| 18:30.55 | Kaelten | ccox: what type of software? |
| 18:31.01 | Kaelten | if I can ask |
| 18:31.02 | ccox | And in 20 years we'll look back and complain about how stupid ALL these languages were |
| 18:31.14 | zenzelezz | ccox: no we won't. Our kids will |
| 18:31.22 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: lua is dynamically typed |
| 18:31.31 | cncfanatics | oh I see, I hate that :p |
| 18:31.49 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: obj-c has a id type which is basically a void pointer |
| 18:31.57 | zenzelezz | if I wasn't so lazy, I'd be tempted to make a junk language called C² |
| 18:32.39 | ccox | cncfanatics: dynamic typing has some advantages, like loading code/object definitions at runtime |
| 18:33.06 | ccox | cncfanatics: the downside is that EVERY method call is slower than a virtual call in C++ and cannot be optimized by the compiler |
| 18:33.19 | cncfanatics | that is painful |
| 18:33.21 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 18:33.28 | Cloudwolf | so no one knows an answer to my question? Do editboxes support item linking? |
| 18:33.59 | ccox | cncfanatics: but, if you're writing code that isn't too performance sensitive, like UI code, then it may not be too bad |
| 18:34.11 | ccox | cncfanatics: unless your UI gets complex |
| 18:34.30 | cncfanatics | UI tends to get complex quite fast |
| 18:34.34 | ccox | bingo |
| 18:35.06 | ccox | then you have a balancing act: use this feature to speed up coding, but minimize it's use to keep from slowing down the user |
| 18:36.34 | ccox | Cloud - either everyone is out to lunch, or nobody knows |
| 18:36.47 | Cloudwolf | heh lovley.... |
| 18:36.58 | Kaelten | Cloud: not sur ewhat you mean by support item links |
| 18:37.22 | Cloudwolf | like if you shift click an item |
| 18:37.24 | Cloudwolf | it links it into chat |
| 18:37.49 | Cloudwolf | do editboxes support such a thing? like i can put the item info into the edit box? |
| 18:37.53 | Cide | "However, I really wanted to go to my first Blizzcon; and LOOK i have an actual blizzard WOW account... Blizzard needs to give the WOW players some priority!" |
| 18:37.58 | Cide | what the hell? |
| 18:38.23 | cncfanatics | Cide: said guy thinks blizzcon only goes over WoW ? :p |
| 18:38.28 | Cloudwolf | .... uh blizzcon isn't for wow lol... |
| 18:38.29 | Cide | apparently |
| 18:38.39 | Cloudwolf | well purely for wow hmm |
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| 18:38.58 | Bruners | thats why its called Blizzcon and not wowcon |
| 18:40.22 | zenzelezz | cncfanatics: of course they do, it's not like they've announced any other games in progress!!1 |
| 18:40.41 | cncfanatics | zenzelezz: true, true, all those others must be my imagination /cry |
| 18:40.43 | nevcairiel | other games? blasphemy |
| 18:42.16 | Kaelten | Cloudwolf: I think they do |
| 18:42.48 | Cloudwolf | I hope they do heh. |
| 18:44.09 | zenzelezz | did you try simply setting the text of one to an item link and see? |
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| 18:50.29 | Cloudwolf | not yet lol |
| 18:51.15 | Cloudwolf | well one of my older ones doesn't support it |
| 18:51.19 | Cloudwolf | i wonder if theres an option.... |
| 18:51.35 | zenzelezz | again... why not try it before looking elsewhere? |
| 18:51.48 | foxlit | More likely than not, you're misguided |
| 18:52.25 | Cloudwolf | atm im not fallowing a guide... or someones guidance |
| 18:52.26 | foxlit | "one of my older [addons' edit boxes] doesn't support [shift-clicking links into it]"? |
| 18:52.57 | Cloudwolf | foxlit thats because i just tried it.... |
| 18:53.49 | Gnarfoz | http://paste.wowace.com/668/ or http://paste.wowace.com/669/ < the latter one will give more consistent results, right? :o |
| 18:54.05 | foxlit | But is my interpretation correct, Cloudwolf? |
| 18:54.48 | Cloudwolf | the fact that im trying to get [Red bandana] [White Linen Shirt] into an edit box thats clickable just like if i was typing in trade chat? |
| 18:54.58 | Cloudwolf | then yes |
| 18:55.16 | foxlit | Mm. That functionality actually has very little to do with edit boxes. |
| 18:55.24 | foxlit | And a lot to do with what happens when you shift-click links. |
| 18:56.43 | Cloudwolf | well i have no idea waht happens when i shift click links XD |
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| 19:02.12 | Alfuin | damn. any modders of curseforge here? |
| 19:02.25 | ScytheBlade1 | modders of curseforge? |
| 19:02.31 | Alfuin | moderators |
| 19:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | as in people who made curseforge, or developers? |
| 19:02.42 | ScytheBlade1 | yes, there are likely a couple around |
| 19:02.49 | Alfuin | maintaining it, helping with problems |
| 19:02.59 | ScytheBlade1 | yes, there are likely a couple around |
| 19:03.36 | Alfuin | may i pls get whisper by one? |
| 19:03.40 | Demos_Sema | so who is going to switch to the WOWI updater tomorrow? |
| 19:03.51 | mikma | everyone |
| 19:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | probably not, but you can either just ask in here or in #curse (#curseforge ? not sure) |
| 19:04.28 | Demos_Sema | I would hope, prolly will have a plugin for curse as well |
| 19:04.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Demos_Sema: curse has said they will? |
| 19:04.50 | Demos_Sema | I dont know |
| 19:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Then they haven't |
| 19:05.33 | Demos_Sema | maybe not, I was just saying that would be pretty cool |
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| 19:11.16 | Grum | Would anyone know an addon which shows the 'normal' magic debuffs on the target, elements/mage ignite buff thingie etc? |
| 19:11.19 | nicoli_s | we haven't announced anything official about a minion plugin |
| 19:11.28 | Grum | spriest misery |
| 19:11.38 | nicoli_s | though i do plan on writing a wowdb module if i have the time |
| 19:12.00 | Fisker- | hey Cairenn|afk |
| 19:12.11 | Fisker- | do you have any tickets? |
| 19:12.12 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 19:14.47 | ccox | Fisker - rubbing salt in our wounds? |
| 19:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ccox: he's the king of negative karma for a reason |
| 19:15.20 | ccox | oh, ok |
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| 19:17.40 | Cloudwolf | time to pastey |
| 19:18.32 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/114354 |
| 19:18.35 | Cloudwolf | that code gives me |
| 19:18.40 | mikma | lol hahahaha |
| 19:18.54 | Cloudwolf | : ..\AddOns\Notetaker\notetaker.lua line 19: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'scaley' (a nil value) |
| 19:19.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: sounds like that field hasn't been defined before |
| 19:19.23 | Cloudwolf | except it has?.... |
| 19:19.40 | Iriel | was it initialized? |
| 19:19.41 | mikma | cloudwolf: switch the two function orders |
| 19:19.44 | Iriel | in the correct scope |
| 19:20.10 | mikma | cloudwolf: startupload() first, and createframes() last |
| 19:20.13 | ScytheBlade1 | No, not quite. It was created in startupload() |
| 19:20.34 | ScytheBlade1 | add "local notestable" to line 6 or something |
| 19:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Right now, it's local to startupload() only |
| 19:21.15 | Cloudwolf | even though i never decalrd notestable as a local? |
| 19:21.22 | Cloudwolf | its still local?... |
| 19:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's local to startupload() |
| 19:21.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It doesn't exist outside of startupload() |
| 19:21.47 | Cloudwolf | eventhough its also a saved var? |
| 19:22.11 | mikma | i still stay at my point, swap the functions around I |
| 19:22.14 | mikma | :I* |
| 19:22.28 | Cloudwolf | mikma i tried switching the order of startupload and createframes and it didn't fix it |
| 19:22.54 | mikma | then you need to delay the createframes |
| 19:23.16 | mikma | right now it seems like the createframes is being run first, when startupload haven't been ran yet |
| 19:23.21 | Cloudwolf | well im only calling it after the table should have intiliaized >< |
| 19:23.55 | Cloudwolf | but mikma how would i delay it? |
| 19:24.07 | Cloudwolf | you can't create timers can you? |
| 19:24.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd suggest that you add "notestable = {}" to ~line six, change your table init function to check the subvalues (scaley, scalex, etc), and then call it good |
| 19:24.51 | mikma | cloudwolf: wasn't talking about timers tho, was just meaning that you need to load the SV first, then run createframes() .. but since you already do that |
| 19:25.26 | mikma | cloudwolf: and yes, you can create timers easily :P http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Create_a_mini-timer_using_OnUpdate_3 |
| 19:25.29 | mikma | afk -> |
| 19:26.59 | Osstia | I am trying to place a checkbox on a panel in the interface options. This checkbox would be used to toggle the display of a minimap icon. So far i have the checkbox, clicking it will in fact toggle my miimap icon. but i am having trouble with teh checked status of the checkbox getting lost after a logout |
| 19:27.04 | Osstia | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/114355 |
| 19:27.31 | Osstia | anyone have a sec see if they can help me figure out where i am going wrong? |
| 19:28.12 | Cloudwolf | scytheblade1 woudln't htat cause issues with saving the variable? |
| 19:28.18 | Taroven | Is it throwing errors, or what, Osstia? |
| 19:28.20 | Cloudwolf | and loading it properly? |
| 19:29.08 | Osstia | Taroven: nope. it works ok. but heres an example. The box is checked, the mimimap icon is visible. So i log out. check the saved variables, and the value is set to true |
| 19:29.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: no. It would be defined as a table before the saved vars are loaded, and then overwritten with the saved vars. Then, if it is still nil, you can check the table for the structure you want and create it as needed |
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| 19:29.28 | Taroven | Sounds good so far. |
| 19:29.29 | Osstia | I log back in, and the icon is displaying like i want, but the checkbox on the panel is now un-checked |
| 19:29.42 | Cloudwolf | so would it be along hte lines of |
| 19:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: that way the table will always be in the 'right' state no matter when it is accessed (as long as you do the proper checks after VARIABLES_LOADED) |
| 19:29.47 | Osstia | if i check it, it toggles the icon, and sets the value to false. but now the 2 are not in sync |
| 19:30.12 | Osstia | it seems as though no matter what i set the value in the savedvariables to, the box always starts out unchecked |
| 19:30.27 | Osstia | i thought thats waht line#4 was handling for me |
| 19:30.27 | Iriel | Do you have code on ADDON_LOADED to set the state of the checkbox? |
| 19:30.36 | Taroven | ^ |
| 19:30.52 | Osstia | I do not |
| 19:31.03 | Osstia | I was trying to handle that when i created the page |
| 19:31.07 | Osstia | err panel |
| 19:31.14 | Iriel | when do you create it? |
| 19:31.15 | Iriel | On demand? |
| 19:31.24 | Cloudwolf | scythe whats confusing me is if i do local bob={} then do if bob["something"] is nil it will always come up nil because ive just told it to create a brand new table |
| 19:31.29 | Taroven | And are you checking the state of the checkbox at any point? |
| 19:31.32 | Osstia | Iriel: yes |
| 19:31.56 | Iriel | Osstia: Are you sure it's not being created when the Addon loads? |
| 19:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: moment |
| 19:32.13 | Osstia | actually, youa re correct. The way it is coded now, it is being done when the addon loads |
| 19:32.28 | Taroven | *passes to Iriel* |
| 19:32.35 | Osstia | thanks taroven |
| 19:32.40 | Taroven | ^_^ |
| 19:32.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: it's been a bit: PEW fires after VARIABLES_LOADED, right? |
| 19:33.03 | Taroven | Quick question of my own since I don't feel like firing up my drycode atm |
| 19:33.09 | Iriel | Yes |
| 19:33.12 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks |
| 19:33.26 | Iriel | Though I really discourage authors from using VARIABLES_LOADED unless they're waiting for Blizzard SV's to load |
| 19:33.39 | Iriel | because that fails if you change your code to Load on demand |
| 19:33.57 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I'm impressed by windows xp |
| 19:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | oh right |
| 19:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 19:34.08 | cncfanatics | its only crashed twice since I installed it this morning |
| 19:34.19 | Taroven | Can I do something like local AuraFunction = UnitBuff; if AuraFunction == UnitBuff then Stuff()? |
| 19:34.28 | Iriel | Taroven: yes |
| 19:34.33 | Taroven | Just checking. =P |
| 19:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: moment more |
| 19:34.42 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 19:34.42 | cncfanatics | Taroven: o hai :) how's EventHorizon coming along ? :) |
| 19:34.45 | Taroven | Wasn't sure if that'd work for a global function |
| 19:35.22 | Taroven | cncfanatics: Coming along great, but I had to reformat and lost your code for custom CLEU |
| 19:35.36 | cncfanatics | I still got it on my hd |
| 19:35.45 | cncfanatics | want it ? its such a trivial change |
| 19:35.54 | Osstia | so, if I am using :SetChecked() when the addon is loaded, shouldn't that be enough to check my box for me? Or am I missing something? |
| 19:35.58 | Iriel | Taroven: You didn't say what you expect that code to be doing, but hopefully you know what you meant 8-) |
| 19:36.07 | Taroven | Yeah. |
| 19:36.15 | Iriel | Osstia: As long as you wait for your AddOn's ADDON_LOADED event, yes |
| 19:36.18 | DWSR | anyone that can help with a mobo that won't turn on? |
| 19:36.24 | Iriel | you can't check your own variables at the time your code COMPILES |
| 19:36.59 | cncfanatics | Taroven: http://www.pastey.net/114356 |
| 19:37.05 | Osstia | ok. maybe thats where I am going wrong |
| 19:37.05 | Iriel | DWSR: Does it have power, did you re-seat all the cables and components, do any lights come on, have you tried shorting the PWR pins from the panel case, are you sure your fans are all properly wired, have you checked you dont have an external switch set of 'off' on your PSU or power strip |
| 19:37.11 | Iriel | I think that's everything I can come up with |
| 19:37.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: something like this: http://www.pastey.net/114357 |
| 19:37.31 | DWSR | Yes, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, yes. |
| 19:37.50 | Taroven | Iriel: I've got a value (self.AuraFunction) set to either UnitBuff or UnitDebuff depending on the frame it's in. I'm trying to check against which -- Thanks cncfanatics -- of those is being used in order to set another value later on. |
| 19:37.54 | DWSR | My fan comes with a big 4 pin connector, but no 3 pin connector? |
| 19:38.04 | DWSR | Is that a problem? |
| 19:38.16 | Iriel | Taroven: that'll work fine then, BUT you'll get lost if someone hoosk the global |
| 19:38.22 | Cloudwolf | scytheblade1 i don't see how that woudln't allways come up nil |
| 19:38.23 | Iriel | Taroven: you're probably better just storing a boolean |
| 19:38.30 | Osstia | Iriel: if I am following you, if i were to move the SetChecked() after the ADDON_LOADED event I should have a better chance of this working the way I intended it to? |
| 19:38.33 | Alfuin | anyone know how to get in touch with the guys over at wowui.incgamers? |
| 19:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: what exactly? |
| 19:38.47 | Iriel | Taroven: then using (self.useBuff and UnitBuff or UnitDebuff)(....) |
| 19:39.01 | Cloudwolf | ok so if i create a brand new table and check if something in it is nil before ive set anything in it |
| 19:39.06 | Iriel | Osstia: yes, i suspect it'd just work how you expect it to |
| 19:39.10 | Cloudwolf | then it will show nil |
| 19:39.15 | Osstia | Thank you for the time :) |
| 19:39.21 | Iriel | Cloudwolf: all undefined keys return 'nil' as their value, yes |
| 19:39.25 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe, it depends on when you create it and when you check it |
| 19:39.27 | Iriel | DWSR: I dont know. |
| 19:39.39 | Taroven | Iriel: *shrug* Not my code, just trying to add in a check that shoulda been there long ago. |
| 19:39.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Cloudwolf: look at when I create the table (before variables loaded) and when I check it (after variables loaded) |
| 19:40.36 | Alfuin | need to talk to Lothaer or someone of WoWUI |
| 19:40.53 | Cloudwolf | scytheblade1 i missed that |
| 19:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That's why it works |
| 19:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | The table will _always_ be there, and accessible to everything |
| 19:42.03 | Taroven | cncfanatics: Cool, just wanted to make sure that you weren't adding any extra stuff. I've already got another version coded in mine |
| 19:42.12 | Cloudwolf | time to test it |
| 19:42.16 | cncfanatics | I'm not atm |
| 19:42.26 | cncfanatics | considered adding in textual timers but haven't found the time yet |
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| 19:42.39 | Taroven | cncfanatics: spellframe.interestingCLEU[config.cleu]=true |
| 19:43.06 | cncfanatics | Taroven: that new syntax ? |
| 19:43.21 | cncfanatics | config.cleu instead of config.combatlog |
| 19:43.29 | Taroven | yeah |
| 19:43.36 | cncfanatics | k |
| 19:43.46 | cncfanatics | ping me when the code is on wowi :) |
| 19:43.49 | Alfuin | i got no cleu :P |
| 19:44.25 | Taroven | cncfanatics: The new way of doing it doesn't override the rest of the interestingCLEU table, and also if you put it down at the bottom, can be used with anything else. =P |
| 19:44.31 | Cloudwolf | scytheblade1 that didn't fix it |
| 19:44.55 | cncfanatics | ah nice, never even noticed those glitches as I use it on its own |
| 19:45.10 | Taroven | cncfanatics: Just preventing disaster. =P |
| 19:45.16 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 19:45.20 | Nechckn | Alfuin you can send a PM via their forum software to rushter or whoever you like. |
| 19:45.41 | Nechckn | rushster, rather. |
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| 19:46.59 | Alfuin | nechckn: rushter? allright |
| 19:47.10 | Alfuin | oh |
| 19:47.14 | Alfuin | rushster :D |
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| 19:48.32 | PProvost | Dolby: "This file is a for oUF by haste. You must have that installed before this will work." |
| 19:48.42 | PProvost | This is a ?? for oUF? |
| 19:49.09 | Alfuin | plugin? |
| 19:51.07 | Cloudwolf | wow that took a long time to fix |
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| 19:57.27 | Antiarc | belayed heya back, Kaelten |
| 19:58.03 | Alfuin | lol! a gold seller posted his spam on Rushster's mailbox on wowui forums |
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| 20:00.49 | kneeki | Hey everyone |
| 20:03.41 | Cloudwolf | ugh im starting to get a headache.... |
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| 20:10.12 | Fisker- | so incgamers can finally get a secure updater |
| 20:10.12 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 20:10.37 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 20:10.40 | Gnarfoz | ~fisker-++ |
| 20:10.45 | Gnarfoz | (I'd never think I'd do that) |
| 20:11.42 | haste | PProvost: lol wut? |
| 20:11.48 | Fisker- | fuck you Gnarfoz |
| 20:11.51 | Fisker- | i hate you to hell |
| 20:12.09 | Cloudwolf | ok so i get no errors with this code http://www.pastey.net/114364 |
| 20:12.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: suffocate on your own HATE? |
| 20:12.16 | Cloudwolf | but my frames dont show |
| 20:12.31 | Cloudwolf | i probebly pulled a stupid error |
| 20:20.21 | Cloudwolf | i changd it around and it still doesn't work.... |
| 20:24.03 | haste | PProvost: oh, now I see :D |
| 20:24.12 | haste | PProvost: I blame the bottle of tullamore :P |
| 20:24.42 | _rane | have chat frame options become worse? I can't seem to move a custom channel's output to another window |
| 20:24.48 | _rane | or is prat interfering or something |
| 20:25.17 | kneeki | Cloudwolf, no frame is showing? |
| 20:25.31 | Cloudwolf | kneeki no frame is showing tot he extent of my knowledge |
| 20:25.38 | Cloudwolf | and id id fix one thing that could have been why i didn't see one |
| 20:25.40 | Cloudwolf | but that wasn't the case |
| 20:25.43 | kneeki | are you sure they are being created? |
| 20:26.31 | Cloudwolf | considering i used local boarderframe= CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 20:26.43 | Cloudwolf | and i get no errors |
| 20:26.47 | kneeki | mhmm |
| 20:27.20 | kneeki | try /script local f = notebox; f:ClearAllPoints(); f:SetPoint('CENTER', UIParent) |
| 20:27.23 | kneeki | see what happens |
| 20:27.57 | Cloudwolf | uh? f:?? |
| 20:28.05 | Cloudwolf | oh hmm |
| 20:29.03 | Cloudwolf | im unable to manualy call notebox or boarderframe |
| 20:29.11 | Cloudwolf | i get trying to call global a nil val |
| 20:29.48 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.51 | kneeki | any results? |
| 20:30.08 | Cloudwolf | nil |
| 20:30.18 | kneeki | then your frame is not created |
| 20:30.25 | Cloudwolf | gar why the hell is it not created... |
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| 20:32.06 | Osstia | Iriel: just an FYI, that ADDON_LOADED event fixed it. Thank you for a little bit of hand holding |
| 20:32.50 | Cloudwolf | kneeki do you have any idea why the editbox isn't being created? |
| 20:32.53 | Iriel | Osstia: cool, it's one of the most common errors, and the other folks had actually pinned your issue down, I just kept re-asking their question in a slightly different way |
| 20:33.30 | kneeki | Cloudwolf, mmm, link your pasty again |
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| 20:34.00 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/114364 |
| 20:34.13 | Cloudwolf | btw i changed one thing in it |
| 20:34.21 | Cloudwolf | instead of being mouseon= 0 its now =1 |
| 20:34.46 | kneeki | It may be because you're not giving your frames a global name? |
| 20:35.03 | kneeki | CreateFrame("Frame", "notebox", UIParent) |
| 20:35.06 | kneeki | see if that helps |
| 20:35.13 | _rane | seriously, I can't figure out how to move custom channel output into another frame, is it even possible using the blizzard's chat frame setup? |
| 20:36.19 | chuck | JIRA bot? How did you guys get that? |
| 20:37.19 | kneeki | chuck, Get what? |
| 20:37.36 | kneeki | ~lick purl |
| 20:37.37 | purl | ACTION licks purl *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 20:37.43 | kneeki | yes, yes you do. |
| 20:41.15 | Alfuin | damn i am getting annoyed... posted my addon on wowui over 40 hours ago |
| 20:41.32 | Alfuin | still not approved, while others coming after has gotten approved |
| 20:41.34 | Cloudwolf | ok doing htat now i can use dump on them |
| 20:41.44 | kneeki | Alfuin, which one? |
| 20:41.52 | Cloudwolf | but i still can't see them when tdump says they are visible |
| 20:42.08 | Alfuin | http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=6924 (HelpFrameButton) |
| 20:42.12 | kneeki | Cloudwolf, try centering 'CENTER', UIParent |
| 20:42.27 | kneeki | ah |
| 20:42.31 | Cloudwolf | ??? |
| 20:42.33 | kneeki | I only upload to WoWI |
| 20:42.39 | Cloudwolf | try centering? |
| 20:43.01 | kneeki | Cloudwolf, yeah, make sure they are being displayed correctly. then try your position remembering code |
| 20:43.04 | Grum | what would: ibt:SetTexture(0,0,0) do? |
| 20:43.23 | Alfuin | wowint was fast, curse slow as usual, but wowui is still not reacting |
| 20:43.32 | Grum | doesnt SetTexture want an image file? :) |
| 20:43.55 | Cloudwolf | or a color |
| 20:43.56 | kneeki | !api SetTexture() |
| 20:43.56 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'SetTexture()': Texture:SetTexture, CalendarEventSetTextureID |
| 20:44.09 | Cloudwolf | !api Texture:SetTexture |
| 20:44.10 | lua_bot | Texture:SetTexture: Sets the texture to be displayed on a texture object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexture) |
| 20:44.28 | Grum | afaik you need a 'white' texture and then SetVertexColor |
| 20:44.32 | Cloudwolf | SetTexture(0,0,0) should set it to black |
| 20:44.42 | Grum | ah kk |
| 20:44.51 | Grum | didnt know the simple color-one :P |
| 20:45.16 | Cloudwolf | Red Green Blue in percents 1= 100% 0=0% |
| 20:45.27 | Cloudwolf | 100% of red green and blue would make white 0% of all of htose should make black |
| 20:45.44 | ccox | grr, can't find an old link |
| 20:46.05 | ccox | where is the website that has the latest WoW UI source extracted/downloadable? |
| 20:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | ccox: wowcompares.com |
| 20:46.15 | ccox | thanks! |
| 20:47.37 | Cloudwolf | well |
| 20:47.44 | Cloudwolf | they arn't showing and this is ticking me off |
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| 20:54.29 | Cloudwolf | yay for being pissed off... |
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| 20:57.43 | Cloudwolf | there is no reason why the hell the frames arn't showing! |
| 20:58.36 | cncfanatics | seems there is :p |
| 20:58.58 | cncfanatics | in cases like that you usualy crack your head on it for a while and then find out why it doesn't work, and its usualy a very stupid reason :p |
| 21:01.18 | Cloudwolf | well it has no errors |
| 21:01.23 | Cloudwolf | my script doesn't pop up an error >.< |
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| 21:04.00 | Cloudwolf | if you set the alpha to 1 that means its 100% visible right? |
| 21:04.33 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 21:05.12 | Cloudwolf | ok well their alpha is set to 1.... |
| 21:05.16 | Cloudwolf | so that should be fine.... |
| 21:06.00 | Cloudwolf | if i set this using the topleft corner of the frame doing GetScreenHeight()/2 and GetScreenWidth/2 should give me the middle of the screen |
| 21:10.32 | _rane | Antiarc: using Chatter, is it possible to set in which frame output from certain custom channels go? |
| 21:10.48 | Antiarc | you don't need chatter to do that |
| 21:10.59 | _rane | I'm unable to achieve this using prat or blizzard's chat settings |
| 21:11.22 | durcyn | eh, he's got a point, it DOES default back to chatframe1 if you /leave then /join again |
| 21:12.06 | sylvanaar | you dont /leave /join |
| 21:12.46 | sylvanaar | thats the easy way |
| 21:13.11 | _rane | uh? |
| 21:13.24 | sylvanaar | join then go in to the options |
| 21:13.30 | sylvanaar | and uncheck the box |
| 21:13.39 | sylvanaar | then dont leave |
| 21:14.09 | sylvanaar | (for chatframe1) |
| 21:14.22 | _rane | you mean [x] Channel? |
| 21:14.26 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 21:14.38 | sylvanaar | just hide it in the frames you dont want it |
| 21:14.49 | sylvanaar | but dont /leave |
| 21:15.13 | _rane | so there's no channel specific setting? |
| 21:15.32 | sylvanaar | you have to be joined to the channel to set options |
| 21:15.42 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/114364 |
| 21:15.43 | _rane | I am |
| 21:16.04 | Cloudwolf | any one know why my frames arn't showing? |
| 21:17.04 | Cloudwolf | btw all of my alpha information is at 1 |
| 21:17.06 | Cloudwolf | they arn't invisble |
| 21:17.08 | sylvanaar | you should be able to hide that channel on the frames you dont want it on |
| 21:17.21 | _rane | there's no channel specific setting |
| 21:17.29 | sylvanaar | global channels |
| 21:17.31 | _rane | Categories -> Global Channels looks weird btw |
| 21:17.46 | _rane | I only have a blank rectangular box in that category |
| 21:18.04 | sylvanaar | you have issues |
| 21:18.14 | sylvanaar | beyond the scope of the problem |
| 21:18.29 | _rane | could it be a conflict with prat? |
| 21:18.50 | sylvanaar | it could be anything |
| 21:19.38 | _rane | disabled Prat, and it works |
| 21:20.07 | sylvanaar | shrg |
| 21:20.12 | sylvanaar | i dunno |
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| 21:32.08 | zenzelezz | mrrgh... StackOverflow is making people too freaking lazy.... "How do I exit a while loop immediately without going to the end of the block?" |
| 21:32.33 | zenzelezz | surely that's not answered in your compiler's documentation, any number of reference sites for the language, a few million Google results... |
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| 21:35.25 | Grum | zenzelezz: GOTO! =D |
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| 21:41.09 | Demos_Sema | with GOTO one must beware of raptors |
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| 21:43.12 | Demos_Sema | anyone getting that xkcd joke? |
| 21:44.27 | zenzelezz | probably. I think xkcd is pretty popular among the regulars here |
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| 21:56.43 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/114364 |
| 21:56.54 | Cloudwolf | my frames don't show |
| 21:57.06 | Cloudwolf | btw al the alphas are set to 1 not 0 in there i changed that after pulling a obvious blunder |
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| 21:59.05 | Seerah | Cloudwolf: your frames are showing |
| 21:59.17 | Cloudwolf | they are not visible |
| 21:59.19 | Seerah | but you can't see them because you didn't say how they should look |
| 21:59.27 | Cloudwolf | O.o? |
| 21:59.41 | Seerah | there is nothing there that sets any textures |
| 21:59.46 | ScytheBlade1 | CreateFrame("Frame"):Show() <-- visible frame |
| 22:00.54 | Seerah | Cloudwolf: the one spot where you set a texture for your notestexture frame, you're defining a color, not a texture path. Are you getting an error for that? |
| 22:01.15 | Seerah | oh, and ibt, too |
| 22:01.15 | Cloudwolf | i am getting 0 errors |
| 22:01.18 | Cloudwolf | with my code |
| 22:01.27 | Seerah | frame:SetTexture("texturepath") |
| 22:02.20 | Seerah | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexture |
| 22:02.34 | Cloudwolf | ive used colors before in other addons and gotten no errors |
| 22:02.48 | Seerah | but right now it's coloring *nothing* |
| 22:03.29 | Seerah | hrmm... I see this for settexure: Texture:SetTexture(red [, green [, blue]]) but still... that's all I can think of to explain it... |
| 22:04.01 | zenzelezz | Seerah: it's perfectly valid to set a texture to a solid color |
| 22:04.13 | Seerah | yeah, just saw that, but he says it's not showing, so |
| 22:04.28 | zenzelezz | yeah, but that's bound to be something else |
| 22:05.35 | Seerah | and I originally didn't see the settexture lines in there... |
| 22:05.41 | Seerah | is tired and had an awful day |
| 22:05.50 | Seerah | won't try helping anymore :) |
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| 22:07.00 | kapipi | Hello, I am wondering if its possible to get a timestamp from a UNIT_COMBO_POINTS event, and how :-D Anyone who can help? |
| 22:08.19 | cncfanatics | kapipi: just call GetTime(); and store its return value when u get the event ? |
| 22:08.40 | kapipi | well I would like to get a timestamp that identifies the event uniquely |
| 22:09.00 | kapipi | hmm lemme think :-D |
| 22:09.29 | cncfanatics | if u want the identify events uniquely ur better off using ids |
| 22:09.31 | cncfanatics | not timestamps |
| 22:09.32 | kapipi | actually that would do |
| 22:09.51 | kapipi | does each event have an unique id (per instance)? |
| 22:10.05 | cncfanatics | nop |
| 22:10.08 | cncfanatics | but you can easely make one |
| 22:10.17 | kapipi | Im not sure why I moved away from the GetTime() version initially, spent some time searching :D |
| 22:10.18 | cncfanatics | lastId = 0; |
| 22:10.28 | cncfanatics | and then when u get a trigger lastId++ and assign that id to the current event |
| 22:11.43 | kapipi | well i think actually just a GetTime() would suffice.. i want to check if a new event (of type UNIT_COMBO_POINTS) have occurred, and I think just storing a GetTime and comparing it would be fine |
| 22:11.52 | cncfanatics | it won't |
| 22:12.01 | cncfanatics | you can gain multiple combo points at the same time |
| 22:12.12 | cncfanatics | at which points its not guaranteed the two GetTime()s will have a different value |
| 22:12.18 | kapipi | ah, thats what i thougth 1 hour ago when i was still thining clear |
| 22:12.34 | kapipi | *thinking clearly |
| 22:13.13 | cncfanatics | just assign them an id and keep track of the last one |
| 22:13.22 | cncfanatics | then increment it when u get a trigger and use the incremented value as id |
| 22:13.24 | cncfanatics | shld work fine |
| 22:14.40 | kapipi | if an ability rewards 2 combo points that triggers 2 events right? |
| 22:15.10 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 22:15.16 | kapipi | ok |
| 22:15.37 | kapipi | well, I am trying to make my first mod as a continuation of combosounds.. dunno if you've seen it |
| 22:16.03 | cncfanatics | I haven't, i'm a priest :p |
| 22:16.11 | kapipi | or rather, heard it |
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| 22:16.57 | kapipi | basically it plays sounds that let you stay up to date with how many CP's you have on a target |
| 22:17.25 | cncfanatics | why do you need to keep track of all different events for that ? |
| 22:17.31 | kapipi | which in my case, frees up cognitive ressources for spamming buttons and getting out of green stuff on the floor |
| 22:17.40 | Seerah | isn't there a function to get how many combo points there are? |
| 22:17.48 | kapipi | yes |
| 22:17.59 | kapipi | well it does more than just that |
| 22:18.02 | Seerah | I guess I'm confused on why you need the time stamps then |
| 22:18.03 | nevcairiel | there is a function adn an event to go with it |
| 22:18.40 | Demos_Sema | anyone know if it is possible make an ace3 addon in wow addon studio? |
| 22:18.41 | kapipi | yes, but the functionality I will try to implement is more than just a beep per combo point |
| 22:19.09 | cncfanatics | what are you needing the timestamps/ids for ? |
| 22:19.43 | kapipi | it beeps per combo point you gain, but also periodically signals current total, but only when you also have energy for another attack and its not on cooldown |
| 22:20.00 | kapipi | cncfanatics: let me think, i sorta got sidetracked |
| 22:20.17 | cncfanatics | the periodic signal sounds like something you'd do with a timer |
| 22:20.28 | airtonix | nrg ticks? |
| 22:20.44 | kapipi | well i am comparing previous and current number of combopoints to determine if it should play 1 or 2 beeps |
| 22:20.59 | cncfanatics | still no need for timestamps for that :p |
| 22:21.17 | kapipi | im not finished :-D |
| 22:21.29 | cncfanatics | kay :p |
| 22:21.38 | kapipi | thing is, new combo points might have landed without the difference having changed |
| 22:21.46 | cncfanatics | anyway, I need to head to bed, falling over on my keyboard |
| 22:21.48 | Seerah | why not? |
| 22:21.56 | kapipi | for instance if i have 2 cp on a target, then switch target and land 2 cp on another target |
| 22:22.20 | kapipi | then the difference would be 0 |
| 22:22.21 | Seerah | you still don't need timestamps ;) |
| 22:22.27 | kapipi | even though I have landed two new cps |
| 22:22.41 | kapipi | probably not |
| 22:22.44 | nevcairiel | You get a even when switching targets as well, telling you that its 0 for that target |
| 22:22.47 | nevcairiel | event* |
| 22:22.52 | kapipi | ok |
| 22:23.05 | kapipi | but |
| 22:23.07 | Seerah | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 22:23.10 | kapipi | hmm |
| 22:23.47 | Seerah | when you change targets, use GetComboPoints again |
| 22:24.13 | Seerah | if necessary (don't remember if it would be) |
| 22:24.17 | kapipi | then i would need to check if I just switched back to a target with cp's already on it but yes |
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| 22:25.17 | kapipi | hmm, gonna try that out |
| 22:26.09 | kapipi | thanks for guidance :-D |
| 22:27.05 | Seerah | PTC -> origpoints=GetComboPoints() -> UCP -> curpoints=GetComboPoints()-> diff = curpoints - origpoints -> if diff == 0 then return elseif diff ==1 then PlaySound() elseif diff == 2 then PlaySound() PlaySound() end |
| 22:27.48 | zenzelezz | Cloudwolf: still there? |
| 22:28.06 | kapipi | diff might also be negative |
| 22:28.15 | kapipi | if you spend the cps |
| 22:28.22 | kapipi | but i can write a test for that :-D |
| 22:28.44 | sylvanaar | timestamps are best if your data needs sampling |
| 22:30.00 | sylvanaar | why arent you getting cp info from the combat log ? |
| 22:30.42 | Seerah | does the combat log tell you if a combo point was applied? |
| 22:31.06 | sylvanaar | it should? |
| 22:31.30 | Seerah | "it should" and "it does" aren't the same ;) |
| 22:31.36 | Seerah | ~poke sylvanaar |
| 22:31.37 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind sylvanaar, pokes sylvanaar repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:31.48 | Iriel | ZJust a note |
| 22:31.53 | Iriel | You can't stick PlaySound's back to back like that |
| 22:31.56 | Iriel | the 2nd will be ignored |
| 22:32.16 | Seerah | thanks, Iriel. he'll need a separate .wav then |
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| 22:32.54 | Iriel | 2 different samples most likely |
| 22:33.11 | Seerah | kapipi: ^^^ |
| 22:33.26 | kmcguire | ZorbaTHut, I want to get the zone that each cluster item is in. Their loc structure has a continent, x, and y. I want to ask you instead of having to dig around forever. It may not even be an easy way. |
| 22:33.28 | sylvanaar | im trying to track mana regen atm - that is tricky |
| 22:33.29 | zenzelezz | pokes Cloudwolf |
| 22:33.49 | Cloudwolf | im here but afk |
| 22:33.51 | Cloudwolf | raiding |
| 22:33.55 | Cloudwolf | and failing lol |
| 22:34.58 | zenzelezz | Cloudwolf: your Y-position calculation is incorrect. You SetPoint() boarderframe to "TOPLEFT", then tell the texture to do the same, but give it a positive Y value, which means the texture is perfectly visible... it's just above your screen |
| 22:35.10 | zenzelezz | negate the value and it shows up |
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| 22:35.28 | Cloudwolf | so make it a negative value? |
| 22:35.31 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 22:35.39 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 22:35.51 | zenzelezz | also check your alpha, from your code I had to set it to 1, since it defaulted to 0 |
| 22:36.15 | foxlit | eek? |
| 22:39.41 | Cloudwolf | zenzelezz i fixed the example i posted |
| 22:39.45 | Cloudwolf | i kinda went wait 0 is invisble |
| 22:40.15 | Cloudwolf | so its actualy at 1 in my code im using here just felt lazy to update the example |
| 22:40.51 | foxlit | psst, wowi |
| 22:40.52 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23665 |
| 22:42.03 | Cloudwolf | zenzelezz i changed it to a negative |
| 22:42.06 | Cloudwolf | and its till does not show |
| 22:42.07 | Iriel | By the way, you probably dont care but it's likely supposed to be BORDER not BOARDER |
| 22:42.12 | Cloudwolf | would you pastey the code you got to work? |
| 22:42.29 | kapipi | ah, sorry |
| 22:42.44 | kapipi | well combatlog does not show combo points apparently |
| 22:43.03 | zenzelezz | Cloudwolf: in a game right now >.< |
| 22:43.24 | Cloudwolf | :P |
| 22:43.32 | Cloudwolf | well i changed it to a negative |
| 22:43.41 | Cloudwolf | and the alpha is at 1 yet it still downs't show |
| 22:44.04 | mikma | foxlit: Invalid Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator .. ? |
| 22:45.52 | foxlit | mikma: one of those stealthy |afk or |away people did it! |
| 22:49.53 | mikma | foxlit: sneaky sneaky |
| 23:00.36 | Cloudwolf | zenzelezz nvm i fixed it |
| 23:00.56 | Cloudwolf | forgot that i had to do a /run notestable["prefs"]["posy" |
| 23:01.16 | Cloudwolf | forgot that i had to do a /run notestable["prefs"]["posy"]=(GetScreenHeight()/2)*-1 |
| 23:01.48 | Cloudwolf | >.> changing intilaize variables does not equal changing waht is used when intiliazed varaibles only intilialze that way if the older var doesn't exist... |
| 23:01.58 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 23:03.36 | kapipi | Are events treated in the sequence they occur? If you have event a then event be, will eventAHandler() need to return before eventBhandler() can run? |
| 23:04.00 | ScytheBlade1 | the entire UI is single-threaded |
| 23:04.06 | kapipi | ok |
| 23:04.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Only one function can be executing at a time, period |
| 23:04.39 | kapipi | Good for my purpose then. |
| 23:06.12 | Cloudwolf | zenzelezz now ig ota figure out why my white bg doesn't pop over the black one |
| 23:06.43 | Cloudwolf | hmm |
| 23:16.00 | Seerah | ~seen Shirik |
| 23:16.02 | purl | shirik <n=Shirik@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 19h 43m 54s ago, saying: 'what suppression room?'. |
| 23:16.35 | Cide | that one. |
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| 23:18.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:18.05 | ScytheBlade1 | eww, Shirik |
| 23:18.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Get it away |
| 23:18.40 | Seerah | wow - it worked :p |
| 23:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Evidently |
| 23:18.49 | Cairenn | tackles Shirik |
| 23:20.01 | foxlit | widget:Disable(); |
| 23:20.09 | foxlit | local a = widget:IsEnabled() |
| 23:20.15 | foxlit | Guess what a becomes. |
| 23:22.23 | Iriel | nil? |
| 23:22.53 | foxlit | nil would be a boring answer |
| 23:23.06 | kapipi | hmm, wierd, when calling GetComboPoints("player", "target") in the PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED() it returns the number of CP built on previous target. |
| 23:23.32 | mikma | foxlit: table |
| 23:24.03 | foxlit | mikma: I feel that I should specify that the correct answer is 0 before someone says "thread" |
| 23:24.16 | mikma | foxlit: lamp |
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| 23:25.40 | durcyn | i'm gonna go with 'true', for the mindfuck value |
| 23:27.25 | Cide | 0? |
| 23:27.41 | foxlit | 0. |
| 23:27.50 | Cide | I'm good. |
| 23:28.01 | mikma | lamp. |
| 23:28.15 | foxlit | Either that or you're cable of reading more than two lines of scrollback :) |
| 23:28.38 | Cide | or both? |
| 23:29.03 | Cide | in my defense, zero would have been my guess! |
| 23:29.16 | zenzelezz | of course it would |
| 23:29.46 | Cide | yes, of course it would |
| 23:30.14 | zenzelezz | so you're the "the bit is 0" type person |
| 23:31.25 | Cide | the "the glass is completely empty" person |
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| 23:31.50 | zenzelezz | woot, I was thinking my reference was too vague \o/ |
| 23:35.42 | mikma | what the .. can't they just shoot that "flo rida" into the sun already |
| 23:37.38 | zenzelezz | what, you want to get ride of a musical genius with a name as clever as that? |
| 23:37.54 | mikma | yeap |
| 23:38.08 | mikma | all the songs i have heard from him are some lame ripoffs from another songs |
| 23:38.35 | zenzelezz | I can't remember hearing any of his, the name was enough of a warning |
| 23:38.55 | Aqua | heard from who? |
| 23:38.59 | mikma | don't even try, you'll just want to shoot him in the sun like i do |
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| 23:48.36 | kmcguire | ZorbaTHut, Ok. I got it. I exploit some of Astrolabes functions to gain the zone offsets which I make a table from, and then use this table to determine what zone something is in by it's continent identifier, x, and y. |
| 23:55.17 | foxlit | So, best way to debug an error that freezes wow when it occurs is... |
| 23:56.11 | Iriel | look for loops with no clear termination condition |
| 23:56.33 | foxlit | I think I'm looking at some recursion somewhere |
| 23:57.32 | kmcguire | And, do a 'local dbgcnt = 0'.. then place inside the loop 'if (dbgcnt > 200) return end'. To try to actually determine if that is the loop doing it. |
| 23:57.43 | kmcguire | also, dbgcnt = dbgcnt + 1 after the if. |
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| 23:58.11 | foxlit | My problem is that it isn't obvious which code is responsible for the loop |
| 23:58.24 | foxlit | And I can't get tracer output out since it... freezes. |
| 23:59.39 | kmcguire | If it is recursion then you would get a stack overflow eventually and the freeze would release I would think. |
| 23:59.46 | kmcguire | So, look for loops maybe. |
| 23:59.55 | foxlit | unless it's tail recursion |
