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| 01:48.57 | Wobin | hehe interesting |
| 01:49.06 | Wobin | Ravine rot13'd is enivar |
| 01:50.02 | airtonix | \o/ |
| 01:52.30 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 01:54.20 | Shirik | that's fun |
| 01:56.46 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://moqojiy.tumblr.com/post/104944298/via-funkenflug <-- d'aww =) |
| 01:57.27 | Cairenn|afk | awwwww |
| 01:58.58 | Xinhuan | i wonder which reserved keyword is the most used in Lua in a typical addon... would it be "end"? |
| 01:59.07 | Shirik | ~rot13 abjurer |
| 01:59.07 | purl | nowhere |
| 01:59.39 | Xinhuan | ~reverse ravine |
| 02:01.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.furrfu.org/rot13words.html |
| 02:01.50 | Xinhuan | appears the list of words is rather short |
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| 03:00.47 | dardack | what's the wowi site to link code? |
| 03:01.04 | dardack | nvm topic |
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| 03:01.05 | dardack | sorry |
| 03:02.20 | dardack | anyone able to help with oUF programming? |
| 03:08.35 | digmouse | ask if p3lim or Ammo is here, I think they are pretty good at it |
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| 03:16.05 | dardack | yea but i dont' like to just whisper someone without permission first |
| 03:16.17 | airtonix | in here? |
| 03:16.23 | airtonix | ouf has forums too |
| 03:16.40 | dardack | ok |
| 03:16.55 | airtonix | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=87 |
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| 04:05.22 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> The topic for #WoWUIDev is: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.1.x ToC: 30100 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | BlizzCon tickets on sale 16 May: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23269 |
| 04:11.48 | tlund | Cairenn: isnt the "The topic for #WoWUIDev is: " part a bit redudant? :) |
| 04:12.07 | Cairenn | shrugs |
| 04:12.35 | Cairenn | I take it out, others put it in, I take it out, others put it in, others take it out, others put it back, ... |
| 04:12.37 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:13.13 | Cairenn | does no harm to have it there |
| 04:14.09 | Corrodias | doesn't understand the topic! all the redundancy causes him to CUT HIMSELF. |
| 04:16.08 | Iriel | enrolls Corrodias in a treatment program |
| 04:17.54 | End | Iriel: about time! |
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| 04:28.50 | kmcguire | we got routing, pathing, noding, and graphing.. Its like saying ble, blah, blo in my fo fo.. |
| 04:30.19 | kmcguire | just need a hey.. make me a path from here to here, or here to these, or here to these in this order, or here to this stuff based on these flags.. |
| 04:30.52 | kmcguire | oh, and a update this a little with out doing it all over again. |
| 04:36.46 | Wobin | hm does the blizzard ui use metatables anywhere? |
| 04:38.17 | End | yes |
| 04:38.25 | End | the secure stuff does |
| 04:38.43 | Iriel | Plus all the frames do |
| 04:38.50 | Shadowed | options panels sort of do as well |
| 04:38.51 | End | oh yeah, those too |
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| 04:43.54 | Iriel | Wobin: why did you ask? Just curious? |
| 04:44.12 | Wobin | Well, a friend is just curious =) |
| 04:44.23 | Wobin | I couldn't think offhand of an example |
| 04:44.44 | Iriel | Frames are by far the easiest |
| 04:44.47 | Wobin | as I cited to him that metatables and coroutines were slightly more advanced lua ideas |
| 04:45.06 | Wobin | oh of course, with the inheritance of features |
| 04:45.49 | Iriel | for the right definition of inheritance, sure |
| 04:45.55 | Iriel | there's no __index chaining going on in wow |
| 04:45.57 | Wobin | well yes =) |
| 04:46.20 | Fisker- | you! |
| 04:46.34 | Shirik | Cairenn I think it's my fault |
| 04:46.42 | Shirik | Whenever I set the topic, I /topic first |
| 04:46.45 | Iriel | It's ALWAYS your fault |
| 04:46.46 | Shirik | to see what it is |
| 04:46.50 | Cairenn | Shirik: heh, no worries |
| 04:46.51 | Fisker- | i think it is Shirik |
| 04:47.06 | Wobin | Topic for #wowuidev is: The topic for #WoWUIDev is: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ |
| 04:47.38 | Shirik | oh my |
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| 04:47.52 | Shirik | Earlier today, netbeans said "You have 1 update to install!" I was like "oh cool" and clicked it |
| 04:48.01 | Shirik | shut down a few hours later; just opened it back up |
| 04:48.12 | Shirik | apparently it was the auto-update core that was updated. Now there's 67 updates :( |
| 04:48.20 | End | haha |
| 04:48.43 | Shirik | I especially like how when I click on it to open the update confirmation screen |
| 04:48.46 | Wobin | pwned |
| 04:48.48 | Shirik | it says "Please wait a while..." |
| 04:48.57 | Shirik | Not "Please wait..." or "Please wait, this might take a few minutes..." |
| 04:49.00 | Shirik | "Please wait a while..." |
| 04:50.38 | End | Please wait a long time... |
| 04:50.46 | Fisker- | Wobin |
| 04:50.49 | Fisker- | archnemesis |
| 04:50.58 | Iriel | It could be "Hey, why dont you do something else for a while" |
| 04:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: "Please wait, testing TOC density" imo |
| 04:51.12 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:51.24 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I hate it when my TOC's get all fragmented and sparse |
| 04:51.37 | End | Actually, there was an updater for something I used that said "Go watch a movie or something. This is going to take a while." |
| 04:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: it's a problem with no clear solution |
| 04:52.12 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Periodic spin reorientation helps a little |
| 04:52.26 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Well then at least it has a precipitate |
| 04:52.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: if Minion isn't absolutely riddled with humorous status updates/warning or error messages, I'm going to be disappointed |
| 04:52.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:52.46 | Shirik | It says "Hello" in the log file, is that sufficient? |
| 04:53.00 | Iriel | Shirik: No |
| 04:53.03 | Shirik | SNN> 05-10-09 23:17:30.022 - Hello, I am MMOUI Minion, v2.2.0 |
| 04:53.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: no |
| 04:53.15 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:53.18 | Iriel | "Yes Master" would have been better |
| 04:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *"Yes Master?" |
| 04:53.38 | airtonix | not a duck? |
| 04:53.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather |
| 04:53.40 | Iriel | It IS a minion |
| 04:53.48 | ScytheBlade1 | "Yes, Master? (v2.2.0)" |
| 04:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If you must |
| 04:54.00 | Shirik | I think if I start putting confusing statements in the log file I'm going to lose my mind |
| 04:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey |
| 04:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it'll be talking to you in plain english |
| 04:54.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Your insanity will be shared with your application |
| 04:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | In a humorus manner |
| 04:54.52 | airtonix | http://panda.bg.univ.gda.pl/pub/teksty/humor/kawaly/monty/hugar.txt |
| 04:55.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I personally can't think of a better starte of mind to create an application |
| 04:55.19 | ScytheBlade1 | *start |
| 04:55.23 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 04:55.24 | Thunder_Child | yes but something like "I'm sorry master, i can not do that, my threads are all busy" sounds kinda weird |
| 04:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | *state |
| 04:55.25 | ScytheBlade1 | blinks |
| 04:56.26 | airtonix | Ya! Ya! Ya! Ya! Do you waaaaant...do you waaaaaant...to come back to my place, bouncy bouncy? |
| 04:59.05 | airtonix | I quote on example. The Hungarian phrase meaning "Can you direct me to the station?" is translated by the English phrase, "Please fondle my bum." |
| 05:03.25 | Wobin | hehe http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/dream_home.PNG |
| 05:03.30 | Wobin | hm, lacks alt text |
| 05:03.36 | Wobin | http://abstrusegoose.com/147 |
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| 05:40.16 | Fisker- | attacks Wobin |
| 05:42.04 | Torhal | Fisker-: No buttsecks for you! |
| 05:42.20 | Shirik | Question |
| 05:42.33 | Shirik | if when filling out a bug report, it asks you "Platform, OS, OS Version" |
| 05:42.39 | Shirik | let's take the example, windows vista |
| 05:42.42 | Shirik | what do you put? |
| 05:43.00 | Torhal | Build number/service pack |
| 05:43.02 | Shirik | I could say "Platform: Windows, OS: Vista" or "OS: Windows, Version: Vista" |
| 05:43.16 | Shirik | I don't expect your average user to know that heh |
| 05:43.16 | Torhal | For version, service pack level |
| 05:43.22 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:43.39 | Torhal | Windows, Vista, SP1 |
| 05:44.18 | Fisker- | I agree with Torhal |
| 05:44.33 | Fisker- | that or x86/x64 where windows is |
| 05:48.21 | Fisker- | sup Shirik ? |
| 05:50.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He died |
| 05:56.15 | Fisker- | i wish |
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| 05:59.57 | Wobin | also indicate 32 or 64bit versions? |
| 06:00.04 | Wobin | (or is Vista only 64?) |
| 06:00.26 | Thunder_Child | http://www.rlslog.net/zitzot-67-of-british-families-love-internet-more-than-food/ |
| 06:03.55 | Fisker- | Wobin it was my idea |
| 06:04.06 | Fisker- | stop stealing them |
| 06:04.27 | Wobin | oh, didn't read that |
| 06:05.24 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, vista has 32-bit version |
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| 06:07.25 | Fisker- | sucks that Microsoft still support legacy platforms |
| 06:07.27 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 06:07.36 | Shirik | no it doesn't |
| 06:07.42 | Shirik | that's where we get these awesome function names |
| 06:08.16 | Shirik | ~google EnumCalendarInfoExEx |
| 06:08.25 | Shirik | !g EnumCalendarInfoExEx |
| 06:08.26 | batbot | Shirik: EnumCalendarInfoExEx Function (Windows) <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd317805(VS.85).aspx> |
| 06:08.28 | Shirik | ^ |
| 06:08.36 | Shirik | lol @ backwards compatibility |
| 06:08.51 | Shirik | Next version will be EnumCalendarInfoExExEx |
| 06:10.45 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 06:29.25 | Fisker- | keeps punching and punching |
| 06:34.45 | Taroven | ~seen tifi |
| 06:34.46 | purl | tifi <n=Tifi@dslb-088-073-065-134.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 49d 14h 49m 3s ago, saying: 'ptr toc version is 30100?'. |
| 06:35.08 | Taroven | Blargh, he was in last night. Quit lying, purl. =P |
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| 06:39.03 | Thunder_Child | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=videoembed |
| 06:44.40 | Fisker- | hurr |
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| 06:55.59 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=62913 |
| 06:56.06 | Adys | =| |
| 06:57.29 | Wobin | goddamnit |
| 06:57.35 | Wobin | they need to be able to chunk the AH data better |
| 06:57.56 | Fisker- | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:58.44 | Shirik | More signs that Minion is getting closer: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=135126#post135126 |
| 06:58.51 | Fisker- | i disagree |
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| 06:59.29 | Adys | shirik |
| 06:59.39 | Adys | been developing a bug tracker in django |
| 06:59.43 | Adys | because every other one sucks |
| 06:59.47 | Shirik | too late! |
| 06:59.53 | Shirik | where were you yesterday! |
| 07:00.02 | Adys | home |
| 07:00.04 | Wobin | all on schedule, Shirik? |
| 07:00.11 | Shirik | I've already had Dolby install two different ones, I won't make him uninstall again :P |
| 07:00.18 | Shirik | he already hates me |
| 07:00.18 | Adys | uh |
| 07:00.24 | Adys | yeah except its not exactly done |
| 07:00.27 | Shirik | Wobin: Yeah |
| 07:00.29 | Adys | still work to do |
| 07:00.29 | Shirik | Adys: :P |
| 07:00.37 | Adys | but still |
| 07:00.45 | Adys | also whats Mantis? never heard |
| 07:00.51 | Adys | got any example of one running? |
| 07:01.36 | Shirik | I've used mantis in the past and liked it |
| 07:01.43 | Shirik | is there ap roblem with the one I have up now? |
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| 07:01.49 | Shirik | or is it just not full to your standards? |
| 07:02.01 | Adys | they all suck :( |
| 07:02.08 | Adys | thats why we're making one |
| 07:02.09 | Wobin | wow, full AH dump completely wiped my net connection |
| 07:02.23 | Shirik | I meant my example, Adys |
| 07:02.24 | Adys | your mom wipes on my net connection |
| 07:02.28 | Adys | oh |
| 07:02.32 | Adys | er cant login on t |
| 07:02.33 | Adys | it |
| 07:02.45 | Shirik | so make an account >.> But you should be able to view issues publically anyway |
| 07:02.54 | Adys | nop |
| 07:02.57 | Adys | redirects me to login page |
| 07:03.10 | Wobin | Adys: Yeah, she complains you need to buy some two ply network cable |
| 07:04.39 | Adys | holy crap confusing >< |
| 07:04.48 | Shirik | lol you don't like it? |
| 07:04.52 | Shirik | It's fairly straightforward |
| 07:04.58 | Adys | its better than trac at least |
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| 07:05.00 | Adys | but |
| 07:05.08 | Adys | still unnecessarily confusing |
| 07:05.15 | Shirik | meh :P |
| 07:05.31 | Adys | the idea behind the bug tracker we'll be making is basically |
| 07:05.40 | Adys | the user doesnt want to report bugs on a confusing interface |
| 07:05.48 | Adys | look at google code's, they win |
| 07:06.04 | Shirik | JIRA wins, really |
| 07:06.12 | Adys | its got a J in the name |
| 07:06.15 | Adys | its in java |
| 07:06.16 | Adys | it sucks |
| 07:06.19 | Shirik | I don't like Google's |
| 07:06.30 | Adys | im not fond of it either |
| 07:06.31 | Shirik | I really think it's TOO dumbed down |
| 07:06.35 | Adys | but its MUCH better than the others |
| 07:06.44 | Shirik | I need certain things, like roadmap suppot |
| 07:06.44 | Adys | why? |
| 07:06.54 | Arrowmaster | googles makes the authors do all the work sorting tickets |
| 07:07.02 | Shirik | that too |
| 07:07.09 | Grum | yes because that is a lot of work |
| 07:07.13 | Adys | that's a lot better than having the users doing it |
| 07:07.16 | Grum | for the 3 tickets you have on your addon ;) |
| 07:07.18 | Arrowmaster | depending on the project |
| 07:07.29 | Grum | then slack less! ;P |
| 07:07.31 | Adys | if you dont have authors sorting tickets, you have authors fixing the mess users did sorting tickets |
| 07:07.35 | Adys | fair trade. |
| 07:07.45 | Adys | i mean look at that |
| 07:07.46 | Shirik | I'd rather have them attempt than to have to sort every single one |
| 07:08.01 | Adys | i report a bug, I have a dropdown templat eto choose from |
| 07:08.01 | Shirik | if you describe it well enough it shouldn't be a major issue |
| 07:08.08 | Adys | a 1 line summary, and a description |
| 07:08.19 | Adys | i can attach a file, NOTHING is confusing |
| 07:08.35 | Adys | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=5474 |
| 07:08.59 | Adys | comments take most of the page, status changes are highlighted |
| 07:09.32 | Shirik | but not enough features |
| 07:09.35 | Adys | other info take up a small col on the left, users dont come up to a table of lame stuff like "Priority: 1" "Component: Webkit" why should they care |
| 07:09.43 | Shirik | not enough features is what you get when you do something like that |
| 07:09.46 | Adys | whats missing for example? |
| 07:09.54 | Shirik | I already mentioned milestones and roadmaps |
| 07:10.01 | Adys | labels, labels |
| 07:10.09 | Adys | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list?q=label:Mstone-2.1 |
| 07:10.15 | Shirik | Yeah, but then how to I go "ok how close to version xxx am I" |
| 07:10.20 | Shirik | I have to search every issue? |
| 07:10.30 | Shirik | e.g., search for issues with that label? |
| 07:10.48 | Shirik | users don't want to see 2000 issues and figure out what kind of progress that means |
| 07:10.51 | Adys | you can make the milestone a column |
| 07:10.55 | Adys | sort it by milestone |
| 07:10.56 | Shirik | they want to see http://www.mmoui.com/bugs/roadmap_page.php |
| 07:11.05 | Shirik | a nice picture and that's it |
| 07:11.11 | Adys | thats doable with google graphs |
| 07:11.13 | Shirik | (JIRA did it better, but still) |
| 07:11.21 | Adys | theres weekly shit like that on the chromium dev list |
| 07:11.24 | Adys | autogenerated |
| 07:11.37 | Shirik | seems like it would take a lot of work to be able to do that |
| 07:11.43 | Shirik | when there are options that do that right out of the box |
| 07:11.56 | Adys | look at it the other way |
| 07:12.03 | Adys | sure milestones are great on a big project |
| 07:12.18 | Adys | but what if I made an addon that changes 3 things on the UI and thats all? |
| 07:12.22 | Adys | Im not gonna track milestones |
| 07:12.30 | Shirik | then you probably don't need something as complex as what I have going on |
| 07:12.32 | Shirik | totally agreed |
| 07:12.38 | Shirik | don't use a jackhammer to put in a thumb tack |
| 07:12.42 | Adys | yeah but thats the majority of your addons |
| 07:12.56 | Adys | bigger projects get more bugs sure |
| 07:12.57 | Shirik | but this isn't an addon :) |
| 07:13.17 | Adys | but meanwhile, most users will have to deal with additional unnecessary fields |
| 07:13.37 | Shirik | I totally agree, Mantis is not for small projects |
| 07:13.54 | Shirik | I picked it specifically because of certain features: Milestones, multi-project tracking, sensitivity tracking |
| 07:14.04 | Adys | the idea though |
| 07:14.11 | Adys | is to have something fully configurable |
| 07:14.21 | Adys | tried setting trac up |
| 07:14.21 | Shirik | p.s. isn't django python? |
| 07:14.24 | Adys | yes |
| 07:14.28 | Shirik | ok it's auto-crap |
| 07:14.35 | Adys | because ur lame |
| 07:14.38 | Shirik | :P |
| 07:15.11 | Adys | and its confusing details in general with bugzilla and co |
| 07:15.22 | Shirik | I'm a developer |
| 07:15.23 | Adys | like having resolved issues <stroke>'d |
| 07:15.25 | Shirik | and I think bugzilla is confusing |
| 07:15.43 | Wobin | hm, where can I find info about the |T chatstring texture thing? |
| 07:16.06 | Adys | imagine wowhead was displaying every item on http://www.wowhead.com/?search=foo |
| 07:16.15 | Adys | with irrelevant results <stroke>'d |
| 07:16.25 | Shirik | but that's not what a roadmap is :/ |
| 07:16.36 | Adys | im talking about other details in general |
| 07:16.44 | Shirik | a roadmap says "What do we need to do to get to version x.xx, and how far have we gotten there?" |
| 07:16.50 | Shirik | What other crossed out things are there? |
| 07:17.20 | Adys | just in general |
| 07:17.28 | Adys | i think bugzilla set a lame standard for bug trackers |
| 07:17.45 | Shirik | I agree |
| 07:17.58 | Adys | mindset being "they're devs anyway, who cares if its confusing they'll fap over it" |
| 07:18.05 | Shirik | I also wish there were a JIRA that wasn't Java |
| 07:18.10 | Shirik | Because they have all the features right |
| 07:18.15 | Shirik | it just bogs down my server so hard |
| 07:18.22 | Adys | got a link to a jira setup? |
| 07:18.33 | Shirik | any random one? |
| 07:18.37 | Adys | yea |
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| 07:18.41 | Shirik | jira.norganna.org? |
| 07:18.42 | Adys | just wanna see what it looks like |
| 07:18.50 | Shirik | actually |
| 07:18.52 | Adys | thanks |
| 07:19.03 | Shirik | while auctioneer's jira is well set up |
| 07:19.09 | Shirik | I don't think they use it to the fullest potential :) |
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| 07:20.18 | Taroven | Anyone familiar with EventHorizon that could potentially help out with a drastic core modification? I think my head just exploded... |
| 07:20.23 | Adys | still confusing |
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| 07:43.36 | Fisker- | shake it Shirik |
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| 07:48.41 | Wobin | argh |
| 07:48.54 | Wobin | I can't stand people who say "I am PREGNATE!" |
| 07:49.00 | Shirik | pregnate |
| 07:49.08 | Shirik | this is a common problem? |
| 07:49.12 | Wobin | clearly |
| 07:49.37 | Wobin | it's a life changing event, they could at least spell it correctly. |
| 07:49.52 | Shirik | where are you seeing this? |
| 07:49.55 | Wobin | in guild |
| 07:50.10 | Fisker- | me and Shirik am pregnate |
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| 07:51.05 | Adys | Wobin: hows the pregnation going |
| 07:51.26 | Wobin | I mean, I'm happy for her |
| 07:51.36 | Wobin | as she's had 'issues' previously |
| 07:51.42 | Wobin | but rarar. |
| 07:53.11 | Fisker- | this was awesome |
| 07:53.24 | Fisker- | I just somehow stunned a druid in flight form which made him fall to his death |
| 07:54.30 | Hjalte | If you get us in to combat and we don't get out before we hit the ground, then we die. |
| 07:55.01 | Fisker- | he was in flight form |
| 07:55.07 | Fisker- | doesn't matter how much he was in combat |
| 07:55.28 | Fisker- | We were fighting on an edge and he shadowmeld-ff'd at the same time i stunned him |
| 07:55.37 | Fisker- | Then he had apparently moved over the edge on his machine |
| 07:55.52 | Fisker- | and suddenly on my machine it was like he was flying but he just fell down and died |
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| 08:05.24 | Hjalte | Poor druid. |
| 08:06.11 | Dezzi | suddenly, cocks |
| 08:06.41 | Dezzi | thousands of them plugging up my intertubes and making me DC |
| 08:07.59 | Wobin | "Surprise cocks!"? |
| 08:08.13 | Corrodias | over 9000 penises |
| 08:08.20 | Corrodias | all clogging your tubes |
| 08:12.53 | Adys | "after I found an XSS vulnerability there and proved that he is putting users at risk — why did his sites stay on the whitelist?" |
| 08:13.01 | Adys | Fail. |
| 08:15.50 | Fisker- | in the mountains |
| 08:19.31 | Fisker- | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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| 08:22.11 | Maldivia | Fisker: if the druid is connected to the ground, then (even in flight form) it'll slide down the mountain and take fall damage |
| 08:22.19 | Fisker- | ye |
| 08:22.23 | Fisker- | but it was still awesome |
| 08:22.31 | Fisker- | and it wasn't sliding down it was freefall |
| 08:22.52 | Adys | was he in flight form? |
| 08:22.56 | Fisker- | ye |
| 08:22.59 | Adys | or was it just your client seeing him in flight form? |
| 08:23.00 | Maldivia | but then again, if you're stunned you can't flap your wings :P |
| 08:24.05 | Fisker- | how should i know Adys ? |
| 08:24.11 | Adys | did he have the buff |
| 08:24.18 | Fisker- | yes |
| 08:24.49 | Adys | actually might be intended |
| 08:24.57 | Maldivia | Adys: unless the druid actually took off, it's considered grounded, so a stun over the edge would make you drop |
| 08:25.10 | Adys | yea I know |
| 08:25.11 | Fisker- | just a product of lag |
| 08:25.43 | Adys | i was thinking he'd still be flightform for fisker but without the actual buff |
| 08:25.44 | Maldivia | or a bad druid that didn't spam space to start flying when the stun wore off :) |
| 08:25.47 | Adys | only graphical |
| 08:26.05 | Shirik | ok, this is stupid |
| 08:26.10 | Adys | uh that doesnt matter Maldivia |
| 08:26.12 | Fisker- | the stun lasted till he was dead Maldivia :P |
| 08:26.27 | Adys | yeah it doesnt stun you in the air |
| 08:26.28 | Adys | anymore |
| 08:26.40 | Shirik | I have to return a value from this function, but I get to tell it the type (it's a template function). So, I found this neat class in Java, called Void |
| 08:26.46 | Shirik | so I'm like, ok, I'll return Void! |
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| 08:27.05 | Shirik | So I get to the "return" line and find out, it's impossible to make a Void, nor does one exist pre-created for you |
| 08:27.07 | Shirik | so wtf is the point of it |
| 08:27.35 | Fisker- | you don't return a void function? |
| 08:27.37 | Adys | Using Void defeats the purpose of Voi |
| 08:27.39 | Adys | Void* |
| 08:27.59 | Shirik | but ok, I have this template method |
| 08:28.05 | Shirik | public T run() { ... } |
| 08:28.10 | Shirik | I don't want to return anything |
| 08:28.16 | Shirik | so I specify type T as Void |
| 08:28.18 | Adys | dont then |
| 08:28.30 | Adys | or is java lame enough to make you return something |
| 08:28.32 | Shirik | if I do that, then it says "missing return statement" |
| 08:28.38 | Fisker- | hahahha |
| 08:28.38 | Adys | java's lame. |
| 08:28.42 | Wobin | can't you return T? |
| 08:28.47 | Fisker- | compiler or editor error? |
| 08:28.49 | Shirik | if I do "return;" then it says "missing return value" |
| 08:29.16 | Shirik | Wobin: T is a template type. It's just a placeholder. You specify what T is |
| 08:29.20 | Wobin | yes |
| 08:29.21 | Shirik | so I have to specify something |
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| 08:29.32 | Wobin | but since it's defined as type T, you have to return something of class T |
| 08:29.33 | Shirik | I could specify something stupid like Object |
| 08:29.43 | Shirik | yes, I made T be "Void" |
| 08:29.57 | Fisker- | how does a main look like in java Shirik ? |
| 08:29.58 | Shirik | but it's impossible to return a Void apparently |
| 08:30.08 | Shirik | public static void main(String[] args) { ... } |
| 08:30.16 | Fisker- | so pretty much like C# |
| 08:30.29 | Shirik | I haven't messed with C# |
| 08:30.38 | Wobin | pretty much like c/c++ |
| 08:30.38 | Fisker- | well it makes no sense then |
| 08:30.46 | Fisker- | according to you then your main should return something as well |
| 08:30.51 | Fisker- | or according to java |
| 08:31.00 | Wobin | Shirik: can you pastey the function? |
| 08:31.32 | Shirik | sure |
| 08:31.36 | Shirik | I'll give you a good example and a bad example |
| 08:31.53 | Shirik | this relates do Minion's security manager |
| 08:31.56 | Shirik | to* |
| 08:32.12 | Shirik | I have to wrap a block of code in a "doPrivileged" block because it needs to ignore taint caused by modules |
| 08:32.27 | Shirik | doPrivileged can return any value (it's a template function) |
| 08:33.11 | Shirik | This is what we get: http://wowi.pastey.net/113990 |
| 08:33.34 | Fisker- | "Void" |
| 08:33.37 | Fisker- | shouldn't it be "void"? |
| 08:34.03 | Wobin | don't think so for Java |
| 08:34.11 | Shirik | This is the method in question: http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/java/security/AccessController.html#doPrivileged(java.security.PrivilegedAction) |
| 08:34.14 | Shirik | Fisker-: Sorta |
| 08:34.19 | Shirik | void is the primitive type |
| 08:34.24 | Shirik | you can't use that in a template |
| 08:34.32 | Shirik | so, Java has these things known as wrapper classes |
| 08:34.41 | Shirik | int becomes Integer, double becomes Double, float becomes Float |
| 08:34.45 | Wobin | actually, I don't see why a template class function requires a return |
| 08:34.52 | Shirik | it appears void does return Void |
| 08:35.05 | Shirik | er, void goes to Void |
| 08:35.12 | Shirik | but apparently it's completely useless |
| 08:35.15 | Wobin | aside from the fact that doPriviliged is expecting an argument |
| 08:35.28 | Fisker- | Yeah that's what i was thinking |
| 08:35.39 | Shirik | Wobin: doPrivileged returns a value based on the class's type |
| 08:35.40 | Fisker- | That perhaps somewhere in the code you're using it as a return |
| 08:35.53 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 08:37.27 | Wobin | So why Void and not something more specific? |
| 08:37.46 | Shirik | because I don't need the return value |
| 08:37.49 | Shirik | I mean, that's what I ended up doing |
| 08:38.01 | Shirik | I just changed it to T = Object, and did "return new Object();" |
| 08:38.03 | Shirik | but that's stupid |
| 08:38.06 | Wobin | but you -do- need it for the doPrivileged() function? |
| 08:38.20 | Shirik | I need to specify the template parameter for the class |
| 08:38.24 | Shirik | it doesn't allow me to just ignore it |
| 08:39.00 | Wobin | The more I look at the word "privileged" the weirder it looks |
| 08:39.26 | Shirik | heh |
| 08:40.09 | Fisker- | Playing WoW is boring |
| 08:40.34 | Fisker- | done all dailies and raids i can think of, and i can't pvp because a group of 5 alliance are standing on my corpse waiting for me to respawn :( |
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| 08:41.32 | Wobin | well sure you can |
| 08:41.41 | Wobin | by dying to ganking |
| 08:41.43 | Wobin | you are pvping =P |
| 08:42.38 | Fisker- | true |
| 08:43.02 | Wobin | afaict AccessController.doPrivileged() requires an argument of the PrviligedAction template |
| 08:43.22 | Wobin | but what you're trying to achieve by returning nothing (or a default nothing) I'm not sure. |
| 08:45.01 | Shirik | I need to execute a segment of code, which is specified by the PrivilegedAction template interface, the implementation "run" |
| 08:45.13 | Shirik | that code inside run() needs to be executed with special permissions |
| 08:45.18 | Shirik | but, it doesn't need to return anything |
| 08:45.22 | Shirik | I just need it to run and go bye bye |
| 08:45.33 | Shirik | so what return value do I give run()? |
| 08:45.57 | Fisker- | boolean! |
| 08:46.10 | Wobin | That'll work =) |
| 08:46.12 | Shirik | can't use primitive types :P |
| 08:46.15 | Shirik | But Boolean would |
| 08:46.29 | Shirik | I just used Object though |
| 08:48.20 | Wobin | well object is the smallest sized class you can use |
| 08:48.25 | Wobin | *Object |
| 08:49.13 | Shirik | yeah :) |
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| 09:16.32 | ZorbaTHut | I really, really wish function () return print("lol") end -- wasn't a syntax error |
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| 09:31.06 | ZorbaTHut | Dear WoW, |
| 09:31.12 | ZorbaTHut | Why am I killing level 25 monsters for a level 38 quest. |
| 09:31.15 | ZorbaTHut | Sincerely, Zorba. |
| 09:32.10 | Fisker- | that's why |
| 09:32.20 | Fisker- | Fuck you, The Dev Team. |
| 09:32.23 | Corrodias | to get you to 80/90/whatever it is now, faster. |
| 09:33.11 | ZorbaTHut | but the quest *shouldn't require level 25 monsters at all* |
| 09:33.15 | ZorbaTHut | fisker is right on the money here :( |
| 09:33.50 | Legorol | ZorbaTHut: which quest would that be? |
| 09:34.38 | ZorbaTHut | legorol, Tome of the Cabal, part of the felhunter line |
| 09:35.11 | Legorol | horde or alliance, and which step? |
| 09:38.50 | Legorol | From a bit of digging on wowhead, it'd appear that this questline starts at level 30. |
| 09:39.11 | ZorbaTHut | Alliance, http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1804 |
| 09:39.33 | ZorbaTHut | it starts at level 30, but it's marked as a level 38 quest |
| 09:39.50 | ZorbaTHut | for no reason that I can discern :P |
| 09:40.27 | Legorol | looks like the marking is off, that's all |
| 09:40.46 | Legorol | sounds more of an L30 quest, especially since that's like a hallmark in leveling, so time to get a new pet :) |
| 09:41.03 | ZorbaTHut | honestly, even at level 30 it'd be a bit dubious. level 25 monsters? seriously? :) |
| 09:41.19 | Legorol | that's true, but it's more realistic, and just a bit easymode |
| 09:41.40 | Legorol | you still get XP from them |
| 09:42.09 | ZorbaTHut | also: warrior minor glyphs are ridiculously overpowered compared to every other minor glyph I've seen so far |
| 09:43.57 | Legorol | i'm not sure that's true |
| 09:44.07 | Legorol | there are a bunch of minor glyphs in other classes that increase range by a few yards |
| 09:44.11 | Fisker- | druids minor glyphs are overpowered |
| 09:44.14 | Legorol | that's about the only useful feature of the warrior glyphs |
| 09:44.54 | Legorol | the rest are minor conveniences that don't have a real impact on combat |
| 09:48.31 | ZorbaTHut | I dunno, Glyph of Charge is incredibly powerful for a tank |
| 09:49.46 | ZorbaTHut | and Thunder Clap is pretty powerful as well |
| 09:50.04 | ZorbaTHut | I guess I'm comparing it to things like "you travel 20% faster underwater" and "you no longer need a reagent for one of your four spells that require reagents" |
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| 10:00.51 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: what druid minor glyphs are OP? |
| 10:01.22 | jnwhiteh | I'd love to know :P |
| 10:02.22 | Hjalte | Give proper moonkin ones already. The typhoon one isn't proper. |
| 10:02.42 | jnwhiteh | yes, let me use my spell interrupt more often. |
| 10:02.43 | jnwhiteh | only |
| 10:02.48 | jnwhiteh | it no longer interrupts |
| 10:02.48 | jnwhiteh | brilliant! |
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| 10:03.01 | jnwhiteh | oh, its not even more often |
| 10:03.03 | jnwhiteh | just costs less |
| 10:03.04 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 10:03.20 | Hjalte | Yeah, it's crap and I don't even have typhoon! |
| 10:03.32 | jnwhiteh | I do |
| 10:03.36 | jnwhiteh | wouldn't even consider speccing it |
| 10:03.41 | jnwhiteh | i have mark/thorns/aqua |
| 10:03.44 | jnwhiteh | and.. get nothing for it |
| 10:03.50 | jnwhiteh | dash is okay.. for wSG :P |
| 10:04.15 | jnwhiteh | challenging roar is reasonable for a tank |
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| 10:04.50 | Hjalte | Yeah, roar is reasonable. |
| 10:05.39 | Hjalte | But on my moonkin, I don't even have a third glyph at the moment. Just marks and the no reagent one. I never buff myself with thorns, I don't want more aggro on the mob hitting me. |
| 10:05.49 | Hjalte | I guess I'll end up with something like the dash glyph. |
| 10:05.53 | jnwhiteh | ah, well i solo on my boomkin |
| 10:05.54 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:07.29 | Legorol | oh dear, login screen tip mentions the Equipment Manager that's not actually in game |
| 10:07.54 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
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| 10:22.14 | Lukian | Legorol, hahaa nice |
| 10:28.14 | mikma | yeah, been there since 3.1.0 :P |
| 10:31.03 | Lukian | wonders if the equipment manager is going to give him bagspace |
| 10:32.01 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 10:32.11 | jnwhiteh | its very simple, but works |
| 10:35.37 | Lukian | :( |
| 10:37.08 | mikma | anyone has Spotify invites left? :) |
| 10:43.29 | neura | so confused.... |
| 10:43.44 | neura | 3:45 am... wondering why all the Rails people are talking about WoW... |
| 10:44.08 | neura | notes that looking at the channel name is a good indicator |
| 10:44.16 | [Ammo] | hehe |
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| 10:54.38 | Aezay | Would anyone happen to know if the itemType and itemSubType returned by GetItemInfo() are localised? |
| 10:54.57 | Wobin | I believe so |
| 10:55.48 | Wobin | http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemType |
| 10:57.32 | Aezay | Thanks |
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| 11:44.45 | Fisker- | sooo |
| 11:44.55 | Fisker- | my ISP just upgraded my bandwitdh to 20/2Mbit |
| 11:44.59 | Fisker- | i am not pleased |
| 11:53.34 | Wobin | I hate testing textures |
| 11:53.49 | Wobin | so many restarts |
| 11:56.00 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 11:56.11 | Fisker- | i thought it said "I hate tasting testicles" |
| 11:56.12 | zenzio | Wobin: testing in what way? |
| 11:56.12 | Fisker- | :o |
| 11:56.23 | Wobin | adding in new ones |
| 11:56.28 | zenzio | aha, then I see |
| 11:56.32 | Fisker- | in the mountains |
| 11:56.46 | Wobin | it's cause you have ball tasting on the brain, Fisker |
| 11:56.55 | Fisker- | true |
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| 11:58.59 | Kalroth | Fisker is a sucker for a good teabaggin' |
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| 12:18.34 | zxw | Anyone know why /print UnitDetailedThreatSituation("target", "targettarget") wont work? |
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| 12:31.08 | zxw | ive got a suspician it only works if you are on the agro table. is that true? |
| 12:37.14 | Tenchworks | as far as I understand that is right. you may want to check out omen's documentation, if I remeber right they have all the threat stuff lined out with how the server gives us info to use |
| 12:39.15 | zenzio | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. Happy Monday to you. |
| 12:39.43 | Trela_ | Arrrrrrr~ |
| 12:39.52 | Lopeppeppy | Pirate Trela_ today? |
| 12:40.10 | Trela_ | ARRR! |
| 12:40.16 | Trela_ | I be plundering yer code! |
| 12:40.28 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, my code is crap, plunder something that's worth the effort. |
| 12:42.23 | Trela_ | writes new levels for Peggle WoW. |
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| 12:45.34 | airtonix | what did i miss? |
| 12:45.45 | Lopeppeppy | Bunnies |
| 12:45.45 | Trela_ | Epic chests. |
| 12:46.04 | airtonix | no cheese? |
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| 12:46.55 | airtonix | i been playing with openbox and conky |
| 12:48.06 | airtonix | pixel fonts are win! |
| 12:48.10 | Trela_ | I have been writing new levels for Peggle WoW. >.> |
| 12:48.14 | Trela_ | <.< |
| 12:48.20 | airtonix | love that game |
| 12:48.53 | Trela_ | Still horribly obfuscated. |
| 12:49.03 | airtonix | don't spose its feasiable to create uato-generated levels? |
| 12:49.07 | airtonix | auto* |
| 12:49.29 | airtonix | i use to play a game on dos called boloball |
| 12:49.36 | airtonix | fairly similar to peggle |
| 12:49.45 | airtonix | but more like connect 4 |
| 12:50.03 | Trela_ | It could probably be done. |
| 12:50.09 | airtonix | boloball and drugwars |
| 12:50.18 | airtonix | 'jet to the bronx' |
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| 13:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | Why am I singing in French now? |
| 13:08.00 | zenzio | you've been playing a female night elf long enough to finally download the Alizée albums, haven't you |
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| 13:08.52 | zxw | do SecureActionButton templates only work on buttons or would it also work on a frame/statusbar? |
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| 13:16.44 | Kraps | interesting topic for a harry potter spot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBklbAhp0VE |
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| 13:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, I don't think I have a female night elf that I play... Huh. |
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| 13:51.00 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Seerah. |
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| 13:54.41 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 13:55.01 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 13:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | See fuzzy nekkid falcon babies! http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/falcon/recent_news.html |
| 13:55.35 | Kraps | erm, i cant seem to keep my level synchronized with tour guide, even with leveling shoulders |
| 13:56.04 | kneeki | Awww! |
| 13:56.26 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps...that sentence was in english, but did not parse. |
| 13:56.40 | Kraps | huh... |
| 13:58.06 | Kraps | i.e., tour guide is up to level 37 and im still level 36 even though ive done near every quest last few levels |
| 13:58.43 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 13:58.54 | Seerah | morning Lopeppeppy |
| 13:58.54 | Lopeppeppy | That is no doubt due to differences in # of kills required for a drop, etc. |
| 13:59.01 | sacarasc | Not enough rested bonus? |
| 13:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | You could just grind for a little while. |
| 13:59.09 | Lopeppeppy | Or rested, as sacarasc says. |
| 13:59.42 | Kraps | cant play when i rest :D |
| 14:00.03 | Kraps | cant play my druid i mean |
| 14:00.14 | Kraps | which i rather would |
| 14:01.26 | Lopeppeppy | Well, you've got the prevailing opinions on why you're "out of synch". Either grind back to synch, or take some rest break and then grind, etc. Thing is, leveling guides are just guidelines, you have to also do some homework sometimes to keep up in class. :) |
| 14:02.08 | Kraps | its only a couple of quests |
| 14:02.20 | Lopeppeppy | Or PUG a dungeon. |
| 14:02.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, oh! |
| 14:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | I got my first 80 yesterday!! |
| 14:02.29 | Lopeppeppy | does a dance. |
| 14:02.35 | Seerah | yay, peppy! |
| 14:02.40 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/106237491 |
| 14:02.56 | Kraps | grats |
| 14:03.14 | kneeki | Lopeppeppy, Grats!! |
| 14:03.17 | Lopeppeppy | I blame Lunessa, he wanted me to heal some Heroics. :) |
| 14:17.15 | kneeki | if I wanted to use OmniCC with my addon, do I still need to register SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN and do button.Cooldown:SetCooldown(start, duration) ? |
| 14:17.40 | Seerah | OmniCC works on anything with the cooldown animation |
| 14:18.07 | kneeki | I know, but do I still have to 'start' it? Or does OmniCC do that work for me? |
| 14:18.17 | Seerah | you do |
| 14:18.20 | kneeki | At the moment, I'm not. And I don't even see the cooldown circle |
| 14:18.24 | kneeki | ok |
| 14:18.32 | Seerah | (if OmniCC weren't installed, wouldn't you like to see cooldowns? ;) ) |
| 14:18.46 | kneeki | Aye, for sure |
| 14:19.08 | Seerah | All OmniCC does is look for a spiral and put a number on it |
| 14:19.38 | kneeki | Oh, I see |
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| 14:19.40 | kneeki | I didn't know that |
| 14:22.12 | kneeki | "SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN" does not seem to be passing the spell name through the event. Should I have to scan my entire spellbook to see what spell was cast for the cooldown event? |
| 14:22.27 | Seerah | I don't know that much ;) |
| 14:22.32 | kneeki | =) |
| 14:23.10 | Kraps | ding! |
| 14:23.16 | kneeki | Grats! |
| 14:23.30 | Kraps | tyty |
| 14:25.34 | foxlit | kneeki: no. |
| 14:25.47 | foxlit | I believe you're supposed to know which spell you're interested in and check for its cooldown. |
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| 14:25.59 | kneeki | I was thinking about that as well |
| 14:26.12 | kneeki | passing the spell name onto the button or something |
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| 14:31.07 | foxlit | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/artwork/ss31.jpg << get on that, EventHorizon devs. |
| 14:31.27 | Lopeppeppy | ... yeah. :P |
| 14:32.32 | Kraps | holy crap its jaina! i can has autograph? |
| 14:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | Holy crap yes! |
| 14:33.53 | Lopeppeppy | Still kidlets week until tomorrow, I take it? |
| 14:36.25 | kneeki | CHING! |
| 14:36.32 | Lopeppeppy | Whee! |
| 14:36.32 | kneeki | I got Omni to work with my addon :D |
| 14:36.44 | kneeki | no big flashy effects though, from OmniCC Pulse |
| 14:36.45 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: no? |
| 14:36.52 | WobWork | children's week ended last week |
| 14:37.17 | Lopeppeppy | I thought so too, bu the autograph comment is from Kid's Week. |
| 14:38.54 | airtonix | anyone aware of some formulas to modify the saturation of a hex colour ? |
| 14:39.09 | WobWork | the first two characters? |
| 14:39.14 | foxlit | no |
| 14:39.48 | foxlit | first two characters are alpha, but I don't think there have been any reports of that ever working |
| 14:40.03 | airtonix | not for wow sorry |
| 14:40.08 | airtonix | http://pastey.net/114008 |
| 14:40.22 | foxlit | well, do some math |
| 14:40.26 | airtonix | T_T |
| 14:41.01 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSL_color_space |
| 14:41.05 | airtonix | cheers |
| 14:41.07 | airtonix | <3 |
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| 14:48.19 | kneeki | Should I have to code the 'range color checking' for spell buttons? Or is there a Button Template which does this? |
| 14:50.22 | kneeki | Well; is it possible at least to have my addon use RedRange like it does with OmniCC I wonder... |
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| 14:58.52 | Adys | wow |
| 14:59.00 | Lopeppeppy | WoW! |
| 14:59.04 | Adys | wine wow -d3d is actually more than playable |
| 14:59.17 | kneeki | Wine has -d3d built in? |
| 14:59.22 | kneeki | I thought that was a Cedega thing |
| 14:59.25 | Adys | wow does |
| 14:59.44 | Adys | wine always converts to opengl |
| 14:59.53 | kneeki | Yeah |
| 15:00.05 | kneeki | Which is why hardware cursor was an issue |
| 15:00.17 | Adys | its not. |
| 15:00.17 | kneeki | does d3d help a lot with framerates & cursor? |
| 15:00.30 | Adys | hwc is an issue in wow's opengl itself |
| 15:01.04 | kneeki | Aye |
| 15:01.21 | Adys | i dont see any framerate difference |
| 15:01.25 | Adys | some low spikes but thats all |
| 15:01.27 | kneeki | But does it help? HWC is the only reason I don't use Linux exclusivly |
| 15:01.53 | Adys | which is amazing, it used to be much lower |
| 15:02.01 | Adys | and yes hwc works under d3d |
| 15:02.02 | Elly | wow works perfectly in wine 1.1.20 for me |
| 15:02.14 | kneeki | Woo! |
| 15:02.22 | Adys | always did |
| 15:02.30 | Adys | but there are some hacks to make hwc work under opengl |
| 15:03.05 | kneeki | So, I don't have to do any Config edits to go from my Windows to Linux? I just do "wine -d3d "wowdir/Wow.exe" ? |
| 15:03.25 | Adys | pretty much. dunno about fullscreen |
| 15:03.37 | Adys | and i got fsglow disabled since its useless and a hog |
| 15:03.43 | kneeki | I don't use fullscreen. I use Window mode maxamized |
| 15:03.57 | Adys | should be np |
| 15:04.27 | kneeki | That's so cool |
| 15:04.33 | kneeki | I'm going to try that when i get home :D |
| 15:04.34 | Elly | I don't use -d3d :P |
| 15:04.47 | Adys | but uh |
| 15:04.53 | Adys | use nvidia 180.x at least |
| 15:04.58 | Adys | i use 185.19 |
| 15:05.09 | kneeki | I use whatever the latest is |
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| 15:31.34 | AckisWork | tackles everyone. |
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| 15:31.50 | Lopeppeppy | is duly tackled and stuff. |
| 15:32.37 | AckisWork | note that in the captains log! |
| 15:33.27 | Zamoria | there are zombies on mah lawn!! |
| 15:33.45 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. |
| 15:33.59 | AckisWork | as long there are no crabs you're ok |
| 15:35.18 | AckisWork | http://apps.facebook.com/hockey_tycoon/?ref=512851685 <-- facebook... hockey game... need I say more?!?! :D |
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| 15:39.28 | Lopeppeppy | *rolls eyes* |
| 15:39.47 | AckisWork | hahah <3 |
| 15:40.23 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSEtdRPbTVE&feature=channel |
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| 15:54.47 | kneeki | Is it possible to remove an OnUpdate script? Like, say I wanted it to wait 5 seconds to run some function. The only way I know how to set that up is via using an OnUpdate. Thing is once it runs it once, I don't want it to run again |
| 15:55.06 | nevcairiel | juset :SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
| 15:55.13 | kneeki | Ah, thanks! |
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| 15:59.02 | kneeki|a | rawr |
| 15:59.41 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 16:00.01 | AckisWork | meow |
| 16:00.59 | Zamoria | brains |
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| 16:03.05 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:03.13 | Zamoria | BRAINS! |
| 16:03.36 | Lunessa | There's a zombie on the lawn? |
| 16:03.44 | Zamoria | nods |
| 16:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear. |
| 16:05.43 | Zamoria | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1_0SUGlDQ |
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| 16:06.32 | Lunessa | Don't want zombies on the lawn. |
| 16:09.16 | Zamoria | Road cones protect my head! |
| 16:09.18 | Lopeppeppy | Was there somewhere that you *do* want them? |
| 16:10.06 | Cide | arrr |
| 16:10.10 | Cide | I'm back! |
| 16:11.17 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
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| 16:26.10 | Lunessa | We are the UNDEAD! |
| 16:26.18 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 16:29.14 | Fisker- | there's a zombie on my lawn |
| 16:29.26 | Zamoria | NO MINE! |
| 16:29.31 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are buggered. |
| 16:29.50 | Fisker- | go ahead Zamoria |
| 16:29.52 | Fisker- | cause I DON'T LIKE ZOMBIES ON MY LAWN |
| 16:30.09 | Zamoria | eats Fisker-'s brains |
| 16:30.13 | Zamoria | dies of malnutrition |
| 16:30.15 | Lunessa | So - for some reason, in the last few days, I'm down from 30 FPS to 15. And I can't figure it out. :( |
| 16:30.18 | Fisker- | You're not a zombie retard |
| 16:30.19 | Fisker- | :3 |
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| 16:38.22 | Lunessa | I have butter on my head. |
| 16:38.39 | nicoli_s | a larger predatro must be about to eat you |
| 16:38.42 | nicoli_s | predator* |
| 16:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | The pond smells like Christmas after a workout. |
| 16:38.47 | nicoli_s | its exactly how lobsters feel |
| 16:39.07 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, seafood |
| 16:39.50 | Lunessa | Ewww... fish. |
| 16:39.57 | Osstia | mmmm |
| 16:40.01 | Osstia | i had sushi this weekend |
| 16:40.17 | Lopeppeppy | I think we already figured out that I get the seafood, you get the hamburgers, Lunessa. |
| 16:40.36 | Lunessa | Yes plx. Beef, it's what's for Lunessa. |
| 16:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | I like some good rare cow-parts, but prefer seafood |
| 16:40.54 | Lunessa | I like 'non-fish' sushi. |
| 16:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | What, hot dog sushi? :) |
| 16:41.09 | nicoli_s | the curse office gets sushi like every day |
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| 16:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | I am completely alone in my office. None of the 6 others are here. WTF |
| 16:47.51 | nicoli_s | thats weird |
| 16:48.10 | Osstia | i have 35 people who are supposed to be in my area, today we have 18 |
| 16:48.15 | Osstia | its eerily quiet |
| 16:48.18 | Lopeppeppy | An odd coincidence, but it doesn't happen often that both of the reception-types are out on the same day. |
| 16:48.41 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: so you could finally have nude day at the office! |
| 16:48.47 | Osstia | ^^ |
| 16:48.53 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Vegetarian sushi, egg sushi, - sushi is the style of preparation, not fish. |
| 16:48.55 | Lopeppeppy | It's only like 50 degrees out! |
| 16:49.07 | Lopeppeppy | then why cant' I have hot dog sushi? |
| 16:49.07 | Osstia | but what temp is it inside |
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| 16:49.24 | Lunessa | Feel free, if you can find a chef to make it for you. :) |
| 16:49.25 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe 60, Osstia, my office is notoriously cold. |
| 16:49.30 | Osstia | ouch |
| 16:49.41 | Lopeppeppy | See, Lunessa! I'm being repressed. |
| 16:49.41 | Osstia | that could present some interesting problems, even if you are alone |
| 16:50.01 | Lopeppeppy | A cold peppy is an unhappy peppy |
| 16:50.40 | Lunessa | Peppy - I'm sure you have lots of offers to help 'heat you up." :P |
| 16:50.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, aye, the line is out the door? |
| 16:52.40 | zenzelezz | do note that I refrained |
| 16:52.46 | Lunessa | Hrm, well, I can't see the line from here. But if you posted a sign... |
| 16:53.14 | Lopeppeppy | What, on Craigslist? |
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| 17:00.44 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.12 | Lopeppeppy | Too many teeth I guess |
| 17:03.49 | End | frowns. |
| 17:03.56 | End | oh boy, someone using an old version of one of my addons |
| 17:04.01 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: how do you know we weren't all spamming her in private? |
| 17:04.15 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Are you? |
| 17:04.21 | zenzelezz | always |
| 17:06.37 | Lopeppeppy | That sucks, End, I'm sorry to hear it. |
| 17:07.55 | End | they're offering feature requests for things that it has supported out of the box for months now :P |
| 17:08.56 | Lopeppeppy | Now where on earth do you think they're getting old versions of your addon? |
| 17:08.59 | Lopeppeppy | pretends to ponder this. |
| 17:09.22 | End | yeah, I figure as much as well :P |
| 17:09.37 | Lopeppeppy | They really need to be fed to the rats |
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| 17:11.58 | schnoggo | Great that they "respect" authors' wishes by not carrying our addons... err current versions... err I'm with the "rat" solution |
| 17:12.10 | zenzelezz | End: obviously they don't want an updated version, just new features! |
| 17:12.15 | End | clearly! |
| 17:12.22 | Lopeppeppy | Obviously they want to be Peppy-sushi |
| 17:12.26 | schnoggo | and don |
| 17:12.43 | schnoggo | and don't forget to charge for the privilege |
| 17:13.14 | Lopeppeppy | Users *are* starting to catch on that the addons on WM are mostly outdated. |
| 17:14.10 | schnoggo | You came very close to say that which shall not be named... |
| 17:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | I am not superstitious, I can name Voldemort comfortably. |
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| 17:15.11 | schnoggo | WolderMort? :) |
| 17:15.11 | End | but his name is jinxed! |
| 17:15.22 | Lopeppeppy | JINX! |
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| 17:21.04 | Lothaer | hey guys does anyone know if Gnomecruncher works in 3.1? |
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| 17:24.11 | AckisWork | ~lart Lothaer |
| 17:24.12 | purl | frags Lothaer with his BFG9000 |
| 17:24.58 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I took down ClearFont2 on wowace because of copyright issues with the fonts (someone brought it to our attention and Kirkburn doesn't have time to fix it)... should I let wowmatrix know so they can ignore me? |
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| 17:26.12 | Lopeppeppy | You should not, Ackis, their copyrights are their concern. |
| 17:26.20 | Lopeppeppy | Joke 'em if they can't take a... nevermind. |
| 17:27.04 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | I am innocent!! |
| 17:28.34 | AckisWork | lies! |
| 17:28.41 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh uh. Prove it. |
| 17:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And that emobdies the complex emotions we call 'guilt' and 'denial' |
| 17:29.42 | Lopeppeppy | *sniff* |
| 17:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | See Lunessa? Too many teeth. |
| 17:30.54 | Jamash | what do you call a waiter's strike? |
| 17:31.10 | Jamash | a distributed denial of service attack |
| 17:31.34 | Lopeppeppy | looks around for |Jelly| |
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| 17:34.35 | Lothaer | shhh Asskiss |
| 17:35.35 | Lothaer | ~diaf Ackis |
| 17:35.36 | purl | ACTION covers Ackis in gas and drops a match. |
| 17:35.46 | amro | that was bad |
| 17:35.50 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:36.05 | Lothaer | he knows i <3 him :D |
| 17:36.16 | amro | I was talking about the pun |
| 17:36.25 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: ping |
| 17:36.26 | AckisWork | heh |
| 17:36.29 | Jamash | hides under his bridge. |
| 17:36.31 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: I'm sure we could procure some jelly, what did you have in mind? |
| 17:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne, pong! |
| 17:36.45 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, concord grape jam |
| 17:37.00 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Did you give it a swing over the weekend? |
| 17:37.05 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: and for which purpose? |
| 17:37.10 | Lothaer | so does anyone know if gnomecruncher works or a good replacement? |
| 17:37.11 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, eating. |
| 17:37.18 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne, yup! Details incoming. |
| 17:37.25 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: One important thing. |
| 17:37.38 | AbsolutRayne | Did you get any PitBull errors? I need to know if this guys talking out of his ass. |
| 17:37.41 | AbsolutRayne | I have uye |
| 17:37.45 | AbsolutRayne | yet to get a single one* |
| 17:37.51 | |Jelly| | Wha? |
| 17:38.00 | End | which version of pitbull? |
| 17:38.09 | AbsolutRayne | Its PitBull4, and hang on |
| 17:38.11 | End | I haven't gotten any errors with pitbull4 |
| 17:38.33 | AbsolutRayne | Its not the newest one |
| 17:38.39 | End | lawls |
| 17:38.40 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=13395&jump=155094#comments the comment in my responce |
| 17:38.51 | AbsolutRayne | Im pretty sure hes fishing for downloads on his UI |
| 17:40.01 | |Jelly| | ~lart Jamash |
| 17:40.01 | purl | smacks Jamash up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 17:40.19 | Jamash | ow |
| 17:41.12 | Jamash | that's not even my worst |
| 17:41.53 | |Jelly| | That /was/ pretty bad. |
| 17:42.05 | |Jelly| | Although Mother's Day was pretty damned terrible. |
| 17:42.34 | |Jelly| | We had a waitress who is pregnant ... and made a $1 tip. (Note: She's one of the best waitress..es we have too, so it wasn't poor quality of service or what not) |
| 17:42.45 | |Jelly| | Who tips a pregnant lady $1 on Mother's Day!? |
| 17:42.55 | zenzelezz | better than nothing |
| 17:43.21 | |Jelly| | Not really. |
| 17:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | No, not really. Asshats need to be shot. |
| 17:43.32 | zenzelezz | yes it is; one dollar better |
| 17:44.15 | Lothaer | booo i cant put my inscription of faith onto my Tattered Dreadmist Mantle >< |
| 17:44.15 | |Jelly| | No, not really; if they hadn't left anything, you could convince yourself that they took the wrong slip or something. $1 is a blatant insult. |
| 17:44.23 | |Jelly| | Try harder? :P |
| 17:44.34 | Lopeppeppy | If I were her, I'd catch them on the way out to the car and give it back, so he can pay a therapist, which he obviously needs. |
| 17:44.56 | zenzelezz | maybe it's because I'm not a very considerate person or something, but I don't see why a pregnant woman, or any woman for that matter, should be getting good tips just because it's mother's day |
| 17:45.12 | Lopeppeppy | She shouldn't -- but she shouldn't get lousy tips for no reason either. |
| 17:45.26 | AbsolutRayne | Stand Back! Im going to attempt....Science! |
| 17:45.35 | |Jelly| | Because a mother is working on mother's day for one and another, because she's waiting on your inconsiderate ass. :P |
| 17:46.02 | AbsolutRayne | And my UI goes kaboom :/ |
| 17:46.09 | |Jelly| | oh man |
| 17:46.11 | zenzelezz | millions of mothers work on mother's day, just like millions of fathers work on father's day... what so freaking special about it? |
| 17:46.16 | |Jelly| | So I take it Science didn't work out? |
| 17:46.24 | AbsolutRayne | Not really, no |
| 17:46.25 | zenzelezz | an excuse to forget about them the 364 other days of the year? |
| 17:46.38 | |Jelly| | ~sigh |
| 17:46.38 | purl | *sigh* |
| 17:47.02 | Lopeppeppy | No kaboooms. |
| 17:47.27 | AbsolutRayne | I wish PitBull had a SAVE Current Profile option |
| 17:47.29 | AbsolutRayne | :S |
| 17:47.41 | zenzelezz | I should mention that I don't agree with almost any "special" day |
| 17:48.09 | |Jelly| | I give up trying to explain to people why shitty tippers should die in the first place, not to mention why I think people who tip pregnant waitresses for shit on Mother's Day should be taken out in the street and beaten. If you've never worked for tips, you'll never understand and if you have and still have that mindset the you obviously either a) didn't learn anything or b) should go back... |
| 17:48.11 | |Jelly| | ...and try it again while the economy blows. |
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| 17:48.50 | Dashkal | Tipping culture blows.... Pay them better and stop tipping. |
| 17:48.52 | |Jelly| | Now, back to my adventure of finding a text editor that can handle large files without crashing. |
| 17:49.12 | Jamash | how large? |
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| 17:49.21 | |Jelly| | ~200mb |
| 17:49.27 | Jamash | hm |
| 17:49.35 | |Jelly| | Stupid Combat Log |
| 17:50.05 | zenzelezz | I'm not saying that bad tips are an instult, I just oppose the idea that bad tips on any particular day should be considered worse than the rest of the year |
| 17:50.21 | End | that's why I have a script to split them by day for me (good thing my raids don't straddle the date line) |
| 17:50.22 | AbsolutRayne | Stand Back! Im going to attempt....Science!.....Again! |
| 17:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | puts up the blast shield |
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| 17:51.14 | |Jelly| | What exactly are you doing, Rayne? |
| 17:51.15 | AbsolutRayne | ckknight: Rawr give me the option to save Profiles on PitBull4 |
| 17:51.49 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: Peppy and a few others, that were using Iced Cherry, are having problems with PitBull4s Profiles being goofy. Some people have them working, some dont. |
| 17:52.03 | Lopeppeppy | Goofy profiles are goofy! :) |
| 17:52.25 | AbsolutRayne | Soooooooooooo Im attempting to make a Custom Profile |
| 17:52.30 | AbsolutRayne | But it isnt blowing over well |
| 17:52.35 | Kirov | Improper Joke MadLibs Time! : If _mothers/fathers_ of the world actually didn't have to work on _same mothers/fathers_day then no _random ethnicity_ would every have to work past _number between 1 and 16_ years old and I'd never be able to buy my _ethnic product_s! |
| 17:54.42 | kamdis | zenzlezz, well that makes sense. shitty tippers are shitty and just as worthy of being berated for it every day. |
| 17:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | It merely strikes a protective nerve when a pregnant lady gets treated poorly, AND it was on Mother's Day to boot. |
| 17:55.55 | AbsolutRayne | I always tip well, so I dont run into this issue :S |
| 17:56.14 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Peppyyyyyy, can I bug you to do one thing for me on your Laptop? |
| 17:56.18 | AbsolutRayne | pleaseplease? <3 |
| 17:56.37 | Lopeppeppy | My group standard tips 20%, 'cause we know we're rowdy and loud and we usually get young servers to make up for that... |
| 17:56.53 | Lopeppeppy | You can, AbsolutRayne, but I can't do it until Wednesday. I have committments on Monday and Tuesday nights. :( |
| 17:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | Or I could try to do it really quick when I get home tonight. |
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| 17:59.40 | zenzelezz | I'm pretty sure that out of the 25 years I've lived so far, I've known when mother's day is approximately 0 times (except when it's already past) |
| 17:59.42 | Kraps | shuttle launch http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html |
| 17:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | Science! |
| 18:00.20 | AbsolutRayne | SCIENCE! |
| 18:00.32 | Zamoria | IWB! |
| 18:01.13 | Kirov | Dr Science! Remember, he knows more than you do. He has a master's degree, in Science! |
| 18:01.46 | foxlit | wouldn't you need a phd for the Dr prefix? |
| 18:02.25 | Kirov | It's an old radio show / shot lived tv show |
| 18:02.53 | Lunessa | I will note that I don't view biological function as particularly praiseworthy. Being pregnant doesn't entitle you to better compensation from me. However, having worked for tips, I tend to be generous to people working for them regardless of their state of pregnancy. Though I have left paltry tips for those deserving of them. |
| 18:03.23 | ckknight | AbsolutRayne: you should have that option. |
| 18:04.04 | AbsolutRayne | ckknight: I have Create Blank, Existing, Copy and Delete, No save. I was referring to Overall Layout, not just one frame section. :) |
| 18:04.14 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:04.15 | ckknight | hmm |
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| 18:04.29 | ckknight | AbsolutRayne: copy it to something, then you can copy from that |
| 18:04.51 | Kirov | Basically, think of a show like Car Talk or Love Line where people ask random questions. Instead of answering them with some attempt of legitemacy, they make up wacky bullshit in the guise of "science" |
| 18:04.56 | kamdis | waves hello to Zamoria. |
| 18:05.08 | kamdis | is Nyxia on the WoW forums. |
| 18:05.10 | AbsolutRayne | Oh yeah, dar |
| 18:05.43 | Zamoria | waves |
| 18:05.47 | Kirov | "How can I make more money?" "That's easy, grow money! Take a 1 dollar bill and a yellow book and plant them in your backyard and in 2-3 months you'll have a money tree." |
| 18:06.12 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.wcpo.com/content/news/saywhat/story/Ohio-Teen-Suspended-For-Going-To-Girlfriends-Prom/M-BQlJXYv0a6dqolLiXJpg.cspx Dont go to Prom, youll be suspended |
| 18:06.59 | kamdis | that's ridiculous. |
| 18:07.09 | kamdis | sounds like Footloose to me! |
| 18:07.41 | Zamoria | figures it would be a Christian school... |
| 18:08.11 | AbsolutRayne | Frost says he didn't think going to the dance was wrong even though his fundamentalist Baptist school forbids dancing, rock music and hand-holding. |
| 18:08.14 | AbsolutRayne | That hurts my soul to read. |
| 18:08.22 | alestane | No dancing, no rock music, no holding hands. |
| 18:08.26 | Kirov | Don't go to Christian run schools that feel the need to push their own random sect of religion. |
| 18:08.42 | Kirov | alestane - no rock music, unless it's Creed. |
| 18:09.02 | Kirov | Fucking is ok, as long as it's anal and you tell your priest all the detals after. |
| 18:09.19 | Kirov | Protect your virginity! |
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| 18:15.27 | AckisWork | ~wownpc 4552 |
| 18:15.28 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4552 http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=4552 |
| 18:15.58 | AckisWork | odd |
| 18:16.28 | Lopeppeppy | Why? |
| 18:16.32 | AckisWork | sec |
| 18:17.45 | aesir | Ackis, I've an old mothballed PC near there. Let me check it. Never ran the new scanner functions on that character, so if something's wrong, it'll explode in a wealth of debugging info. |
| 18:18.10 | AckisWork | aesir: that trainer is bugged |
| 18:18.14 | AckisWork | pompy tested it for me |
| 18:18.23 | Lopeppeppy | Was listed as two different peoples. |
| 18:18.26 | aesir | ok |
| 18:18.27 | nicoli_s | bugged how? |
| 18:18.31 | AckisWork | The NPC trainer Eunice Burch (ID: 4552 - http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4552) is a cooking trainer who trains about 8 recipes. However, when you open up the training window with her and view GetNumTrainerServices(), the output for it is 0. |
| 18:19.01 | AckisWork | if someone wants to post that on the bug forums for me, that'd be super lol |
| 18:19.24 | foxlit | And you're sure that there's nothing else in play here? |
| 18:19.33 | AckisWork | positive |
| 18:19.44 | foxlit | So it works for all other NPCs but that one? |
| 18:19.46 | AckisWork | code that works with other trainers bugs out on her which caused me to investigate |
| 18:20.04 | foxlit | Other cooking trainers of the same skill, yeah? |
| 18:20.54 | AckisWork | she's a weird cooking trainer, only training 8 recipes, but yes all the cooking trainers/other trainers that I've tested with and other people have tested with work correctly |
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| 18:21.37 | foxlit | Most cooking trainers for that skill range use the same 8 recipes |
| 18:21.39 | foxlit | Go ambush http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=3026 :) |
| 18:23.34 | AckisWork | getting pompy to test that out |
| 18:23.38 | AckisWork | (at work, no wow) |
| 18:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | (but willing flunky) |
| 18:23.57 | AckisWork | ^ |
| 18:25.35 | AckisWork | I prefer to call them my minions! makes me feel like I'm starting an army |
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| 18:27.47 | AckisWork | foxlit: odd same issues, so it's that type of NPC which is buggered |
| 18:27.53 | AckisWork | speaking of minions, hi pompy1 |
| 18:28.00 | Dashkal | GMod10 + Wiremod = OMG Fun |
| 18:28.10 | pompy1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.11 | foxlit | Trainer API is probably an early version |
| 18:28.34 | foxlit | So my theory would be that you're running into one of those "we coded it based on what we need to use in our Lua code" issues |
| 18:28.43 | AckisWork | so is that intended or a bug? |
| 18:28.44 | foxlit | See if it's somehow affected by filters? |
| 18:29.06 | AckisWork | it's not |
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| 18:29.24 | foxlit | Missed that last line; silly apple+w on the wrong window |
| 18:29.37 | aesir | (2:29:07 PM) AckisWork: it's not |
| 18:29.47 | AckisWork | heh |
| 18:30.32 | aesir | Those are just run-of-the-mill trainers - but I'd not run into that on my alliance PC. I can double-check, but I've definitely autoscanned cooking these past days. |
| 18:30.52 | AckisWork | aesir: these are the low level ones |
| 18:31.17 | AckisWork | aesir: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=1355 try him |
| 18:31.18 | aesir | Yes, I know. |
| 18:32.36 | aesir | it'll be a few. I've a gnew nome in that area. |
| 18:32.58 | AckisWork | I see what you did there |
| 18:33.16 | aesir | I can tell you the cooker in Thunderbrew near there is a basic trainer and no oddities showed there. |
| 18:39.34 | aesir | AckisWork: Ghilm is fine. I've started about 7 PCs in the past two weeks- including one last night - and they all trained cooking. And they're all alliance. |
| 18:40.20 | AckisWork | very odd |
| 18:40.21 | aesir | In fact, they hit at least one cooking trainer in all the hub cities for alliance. |
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| 18:44.36 | End | whut, linode gave me -more- space? :o |
| 18:46.47 | AbsolutRayne | The song from Portal is stuck in my head... |
| 18:46.56 | widgertick | This is a triumph |
| 18:47.01 | widgertick | I'm making a note here, huge success |
| 18:47.04 | AbsolutRayne | Nah the other one |
| 18:47.07 | AbsolutRayne | that plays on the radio |
| 18:47.12 | Dashkal | Same song |
| 18:47.15 | Lopeppeppy | Aperture science. |
| 18:47.26 | widgertick | We do what we must, because, we can! |
| 18:47.28 | foxlit | ... except the ones who are dead. |
| 18:47.36 | AbsolutRayne | O_o |
| 18:47.40 | Dashkal | Now there's no sense crying over every mistake |
| 18:48.29 | foxlit | (Unless you just happen to run out of cake...) |
| 18:48.29 | Lopeppeppy | I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive. |
| 18:48.31 | AbsolutRayne | brb Lunch |
| 18:49.05 | Lunessa | You're so excited? And you just can't hide it? You're about to lose control and you think you like it? |
| 18:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
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| 18:50.30 | Lunessa | "I feel fantastic, and I'm still alive." - it led me there. |
| 18:50.43 | Dashkal | All we wanna do is eat your brains! |
| 18:50.57 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/jonathancoulton/~3/MetBPq3Rs20/ |
| 18:51.07 | Dashkal | We're not unreasonable. I mean, no-one's gonna eat your eyes. |
| 18:51.45 | Trela_ | eats the eyes. |
| 18:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | eats frog legs. |
| 18:52.24 | Dashkal | O.o http://failblog.org/2009/05/10/fail-owned-playground-area-fail/ |
| 18:53.22 | Lopeppeppy | I once saw a FedEx truck parked in a cemetery.... |
| 18:53.38 | widgertick | I wonder if they were picking up or making a delivery? |
| 18:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I'd had a camera in hand for that one. :) |
| 18:54.01 | Lunessa | http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0652.html - Now that's a villan |
| 18:54.16 | Dashkal | oots needs an upgraded host... |
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| 18:59.33 | Lunessa | Yes, Rich does need a new host. |
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| 19:05.02 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/05/08/funny-pictures-nope-no-milks/ |
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| 19:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* No milk!! |
| 19:09.31 | AbsolutRayne | yawnish |
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| 19:20.54 | zenzelezz | "Congratulations, you've written a buggy implementation of a standard library function, which won't even compile without including the nonstandard windows.h header (which also won't compile as standard C or C++. You have given your function a name that is invalid in C++, and you have constructed a benchmark that is trivially able to inline your own function, and which on a good compiler may even eliminate the loop." |
| 19:21.08 | zenzelezz | some StackOverflow responses are almost too civilized |
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| 19:23.00 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5249292/blizzard-trumps-nintendo-in-develop-100 |
| 19:24.50 | Fisker- | http://www.nofrag.com/images/00432f/ |
| 19:26.00 | nevcairiel | that image has so much aliasing, its evil |
| 19:27.05 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:27.11 | Fisker- | looks way better with AA |
| 19:28.30 | Osstia | aliased or not, i want some peanuts |
| 19:28.47 | Fisker- | same |
| 19:28.55 | Fisker- | i want them in my mouth |
| 19:30.31 | Shirik | Codemasters is 58? |
| 19:30.51 | Shirik | They should be closer to 158 |
| 19:31.38 | foxlit | quick, named 100 game development studios |
| 19:31.41 | foxlit | -d |
| 19:31.53 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.46 | nicoli_s | man that just makes me think of that one horrible butt rock song |
| 19:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | The Teldrassil Protector... is an axe.... http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45076 |
| 19:37.28 | Lopeppeppy | gets her head broked. |
| 19:38.59 | Thunder_Child | http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=16646244 |
| 19:39.19 | Torhal | aesir: I just fixed the ARL tooltips. |
| 19:40.50 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: rofl |
| 19:41.27 | Dashkal | finally, OOTS loaded. *cheers the lich on* (I've hated V for some time now...) |
| 19:41.38 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy. makes sense |
| 19:41.54 | aesir | I DL'd the update ages ago, Torhal. I'm *on* it. |
| 19:41.55 | Shirik | nicoli_s: fyi |
| 19:41.59 | Shirik | I posted the "Uploadable" interface last night |
| 19:42.07 | Shirik | That's what you would want to take a look at for something like wowdb |
| 19:42.13 | Osstia | I am scripter, who is trying to learn a little bit more about programming. I have written a very basic addon that has some buttons I use to track how many of a certain item are in my inventory currently. Right now if the UI is reloaded, I lose all the items I am tracking. I am thinking that I should be storing the information about what item is in each button slot in a savedvariables, then loading that when the addon loads. Is this the right direction, |
| 19:42.20 | Osstia | waoh, that turned out long, sorry |
| 19:42.33 | Zamoria | and it got cut off at "is this the right direction" |
| 19:42.37 | Torhal | aesir: No, I _just_ fixed it. You said it was huge. I made it look like it used to. |
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| 19:42.57 | Zamoria | but i think the answer is yes |
| 19:42.57 | Shirik | nicoli_s: http://minion.mmoui.com/javadoc/com/mmoui/manager/services/Uploadable.html which would be returned from http://minion.mmoui.com/javadoc/com/mmoui/manager/services/UpdateService.html#enumerateItems() |
| 19:43.25 | Osstia | thanks Zamoria |
| 19:43.33 | aesir | torhal: Running joke, you know? You update something, and I bug report it within a few minutes? You're correct of course, I don't have your update. |
| 19:43.43 | Torhal | aesir: Hehe |
| 19:43.45 | nicoli_s | ooh fancy java doc, thx Shirik |
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| 19:44.12 | Shirik | if you want the frames version it's at http://minion.mmoui.com/javadoc/ |
| 19:47.45 | zenzelezz | two years on, this is still disturbing: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/13/im-on-your-crotch/ |
| 19:49.14 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: don't be hating on the inter-species love. |
| 19:49.39 | Lopeppeppy | Lubs. |
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| 19:53.30 | Fisker- | ownt Shirik |
| 19:53.31 | Fisker- | OWNT |
| 19:58.37 | foxlit | lua> math.deg(math.atan2(50, 120)) |
| 19:58.38 | lua_bot | foxlit: 22.61986494804 |
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| 20:09.56 | Zamoria | http://totallylookslike.com/2009/05/07/world-of-warcraft-totally-looks-like-swine-flu/ |
| 20:10.57 | Shirik | ~weather kdca |
| 20:11.42 | Shirik | wtf is this 61 F |
| 20:11.47 | Shirik | ~weather KDAB |
| 20:11.54 | Shirik | wtb going back to florida |
| 20:12.13 | nicoli_s | florida rocks as long as yer not surrounded by old people |
| 20:12.23 | nicoli_s | miama is fucking great |
| 20:12.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirikm 61 > 80 |
| 20:12.30 | Thunder_Child | s/m/,/ |
| 20:12.49 | Shirik | lua> 61 > 80 |
| 20:12.49 | lua_bot | Shirik: false |
| 20:12.54 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Lua disagrees |
| 20:13.30 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, lua can bite me |
| 20:14.17 | kneeki | Shadowed, Why, hellow there ;) |
| 20:14.31 | Shadowed | mmm? |
| 20:14.47 | kneeki | Shadowed, I just posted on your thread here: http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t57666-now_make_unit_frame_suggestions_wanted/ , only to realize you were in here =p |
| 20:14.54 | Shadowed | oh |
| 20:15.12 | Lunessa | Seriously? Miami - it only rocks if you're wealthy and can spend all your time doing the parts that rock. |
| 20:15.19 | Shadowed | It's mostly focusing on not having a terrible configuration |
| 20:15.32 | Shadowed | and adding whats needed, not 5000 bajillion options |
| 20:15.57 | Shadowed | There's no screenshots yet since I haven't done the UI tweaking yet, but it's on my github at http://github.com/Shadowed/ShadowedUnitFrames/tree/master |
| 20:16.57 | kneeki | Shadowed, Ah neat stuff =) |
| 20:20.50 | Lunessa | Shadowed: LibHealComm - I use it for party as well as raid. |
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| 20:22.00 | Industrial | Shadowed: screenshot or it didnt happen |
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| 20:44.02 | a_nil_value | "Some sort of Discord UF with DogTags would be very nice." |
| 20:44.23 | a_nil_value | Discord was a monster |
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| 20:46.27 | Thunder_Child | Discord was Win |
| 20:46.37 | End | Discord was both |
| 20:46.39 | foxlit | # I said, "I'm sick and tired of Winter; and I wish that it was Spring." |
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| 20:51.57 | msou| | Hmmm |
| 20:52.16 | msou| | Can I skip artisan and learn that 5000G instead? |
| 20:52.29 | nevcairiel | you need to learn all levels |
| 20:52.34 | msou| | oi |
| 20:52.55 | msou| | wioth the cold winter flying whatever its called |
| 20:53.10 | msou| | I can just use the one I have to fly in northrend |
| 20:53.18 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 20:53.20 | msou| | is there a diff mount for artisan? |
| 20:53.27 | Thunder_Child | faster |
| 20:53.28 | nevcairiel | once you buy cold winter flying, you can use your exisiting flying mounts |
| 20:53.29 | Thunder_Child | much |
| 20:53.33 | nevcairiel | be it 60% or 280% |
| 20:53.39 | msou| | oh nice |
| 20:53.53 | msou| | 3 levels to hit 80 =) |
| 20:54.15 | foxlit | So yeah, you can skip artisan |
| 20:54.15 | msou| | guess I will do it tomorrow |
| 20:54.23 | msou| | what? |
| 20:54.39 | msou| | heh |
| 20:54.46 | foxlit | Artisan is the 280% flying skill. You don't need it for Cold Weather Flying. |
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| 20:55.48 | msou| | Will, my question was if I was able to skip it and buy the 5000G instead later on |
| 20:55.54 | msou| | Well even |
| 20:56.05 | foxlit | You are. |
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| 20:56.45 | msou| | great then... I wouldn't even by the bear if I knew about this |
| 20:57.05 | msou| | only thing I have to go back to kaimdur when I continue minning |
| 20:57.22 | foxlit | erm |
| 20:57.34 | foxlit | Something isn't right here. |
| 20:57.40 | foxlit | That or bears fly. |
| 20:57.51 | msou| | I meant the brown bear |
| 20:57.51 | End | my bear flies |
| 20:57.54 | End | into the ground |
| 20:57.56 | nevcairiel | I want a flying bear |
| 20:58.09 | End | that's not a bear! |
| 20:58.12 | End | that's a roflcopter! |
| 20:58.18 | msou| | oi |
| 20:58.26 | End | ok, I think I've gone off the deep end. it's time for lunch |
| 20:58.34 | End | afks for a late lunch. |
| 20:58.36 | msou| | it's time for me to hit the sack |
| 20:58.49 | foxlit | what has the sack ever done to you? |
| 20:58.56 | msou| | .... |
| 20:59.16 | msou| | Going to bed you blue! ;) |
| 20:59.36 | msou| | bbl |
| 21:10.48 | Zamoria | "A bad analogy is like a diagonal frog" |
| 21:11.53 | foxlit | CNN: "Crist to run for Senate, sources say" |
| 21:12.09 | foxlit | which is only interesting if you happen to misread it. |
| 21:12.31 | Dashkal | Too honest. He'd fail miserably |
| 21:17.46 | Thunder_Child | lol foxlit, i misread it |
| 21:21.03 | cncfanatics | just kicked 70% of our guild, I feel so bad >.> |
| 21:21.20 | alestane | What did they do? |
| 21:21.23 | alestane | Or not do? |
| 21:21.24 | foxlit | bad as in the power glove, or bad as in blue? |
| 21:21.52 | cncfanatics | bad as in I didn't want to do that :p |
| 21:21.57 | cncfanatics | and they were kicked because they sucked |
| 21:22.11 | cncfanatics | sad to say though >.> |
| 21:23.05 | alestane | Will the 30% that's left suck less without them? |
| 21:23.15 | cncfanatics | yes, as another guild did the same |
| 21:23.18 | cncfanatics | and both our 30%s are merging |
| 21:23.28 | alestane | Ah, okay. |
| 21:23.39 | Lunessa | cncfanatics: 100% less suckage? |
| 21:23.45 | cncfanatics | Lunessa: exactly |
| 21:23.51 | Thunder_Child | "when our powers combine...." |
| 21:23.53 | cncfanatics | doesn't make you popular in your local trade chat though |
| 21:24.11 | foxlit | Question: why not /gquit and reform? |
| 21:24.38 | cncfanatics | ends up the same doesn't it ? :p |
| 21:24.47 | foxlit | Less dramatic |
| 21:24.50 | Lunessa | You can't feel too badly though - if those people won't do content your choices are b)dump them, b) quit, c) suffer. And it was your guild or you couldn't kick them. :P |
| 21:25.29 | cncfanatics | I like your alphabet |
| 21:25.31 | cncfanatics | can I have it ? :D |
| 21:25.50 | foxlit | You shall not mock the bbcs! |
| 21:26.03 | cncfanatics | shld have been bbq tbh |
| 21:27.39 | foxlit | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2009/05/425_gruntymarine.jpg |
| 21:27.39 | cncfanatics | anyway Lunessa: that was exactly how me & the other officers felt :p |
| 21:27.48 | cncfanatics | oO |
| 21:27.50 | cncfanatics | ebol |
| 21:27.52 | ScytheBlade1 | http://notalwaysright.com/vocabulary-meet-veracity/1937 |
| 21:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img2.pict.com/01/18/06/f2cc3c3e9c355a5631783c9669/SOqD0/2zcg.gif |
| 21:28.30 | Cairenn|afk | lol dammitjulia! |
| 21:28.37 | cncfanatics | not funny tbh :p |
| 21:29.11 | Lunessa | sbo - If I did that, I'd break my neck and die. |
| 21:29.32 | cncfanatics | same here |
| 21:31.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I would too, no doubt about it |
| 21:31.46 | Lunessa | Cairenn|afk: I hereby dub thee damnitcaireen! |
| 21:31.50 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 21:33.02 | cncfanatics | http://notalwaysright.com/chivalry-isnt-dead-but-your-sex-life-is/1932 |
| 21:33.04 | cncfanatics | hilarious |
| 21:34.40 | Lunessa | Imagine how much trouble Azeroth would have been saved is sweet young Jaina had just shagged Arthas. I mean, really? |
| 21:36.22 | cncfanatics | he could have just shagged her and get frostmourn afterwards tbh |
| 21:37.53 | Lunessa | Meh, I think some of his anger might have drained away if he was gettin' a little sumpin-sumpin on the sly, you know? |
| 21:40.12 | nicoli_s | this'll make you cry if yer an aussie: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8043880.stm |
| 21:40.30 | cncfanatics | http://notalwaysright.com/we-need-one-of-these-in-every-store-part-4/1919 I wish I had been in that store |
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| 21:46.22 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: it'll make more than just Aussies cry :( |
| 21:46.33 | nicoli_s | but you saw its ok right? |
| 21:46.41 | Cairenn | reading the article now |
| 21:47.16 | Cairenn | it's still :( |
| 21:49.12 | nicoli_s | indeed |
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| 21:52.49 | Tewan | Could someone help me real quick with fixing this macro?: http://pastey.tewan.info/?c=znMpjcvcj7V5T |
| 21:52.58 | Tewan | I want it to reset on a target change, but it won't |
| 21:55.03 | Zamoria | the second one is more correct but you can't throw options into the middle of the command |
| 21:55.19 | Tewan | oh |
| 21:55.34 | Tewan | bleh |
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| 21:58.07 | Tewan | Can you call another macro in a macro? o_O |
| 22:00.02 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 22:00.08 | Kraps | is this true? i'm SURE PoM worked through PW:S! http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=95578&p=1067372 |
| 22:00.16 | Zamoria | not in a sequence |
| 22:00.25 | Tewan | well, the way I wanted it to work wouldn't happen |
| 22:06.35 | Osstia | Kraps: I thought the same thing the guy in the thread said. My unerstanding was it stacked with PW:S but didn't get triggered till the shield absorbed all the damage |
| 22:06.52 | Osstia | so it was still triggered by damage to you, not absorbed damage |
| 22:07.40 | Kraps | i remember it differently /sigh |
| 22:09.20 | Lunessa | Wait - I was PW:S and PoMending people yesterday. PoM jumped after the shield was destroyed. |
| 22:09.38 | Osstia | yep |
| 22:09.47 | Shirik | Kraps, you're crazy |
| 22:09.56 | Shirik | it only heals you once the shield fell down |
| 22:10.05 | Kraps | dude i'm serious |
| 22:10.22 | Shirik | I arena all the time and have never seen the behavior you're talking about :P |
| 22:10.26 | Shirik | And I rely on those two spells a lot |
| 22:10.59 | Osstia | I haven't arena'd since season 4, but thats how I always remembered it too |
| 22:11.18 | Kraps | Shirik: are you disc or holy? |
| 22:11.50 | foxlit | more importantly, why haven't you rerolled a druid yet? |
| 22:12.10 | NeoTron | http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2420523.ece |
| 22:12.18 | Shirik | Kraps: When arenaing, disc |
| 22:12.22 | Shirik | In PvE, holy |
| 22:12.32 | Shirik | foxlit: Because druids suxor |
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| 22:13.39 | Kraps | yknow, since my main is a tank, i have a passionate love for all healing classes |
| 22:13.42 | haste | disc in PvE is also nice |
| 22:13.48 | AbsolutRayne | do do do |
| 22:14.18 | Osstia | kraps, i <3 you |
| 22:14.27 | Kraps | Osstia: lol? |
| 22:14.32 | Osstia | our 2 main tanks are good friends with me IRL, they don't appreciate healers |
| 22:14.39 | Kraps | wow |
| 22:14.57 | Osstia | I raid with a "more dots!!!" type raid leader |
| 22:15.17 | NeoTron | I also ask for more dots |
| 22:15.23 | NeoTron | sometimes I ask for no dots |
| 22:15.24 | Osstia | and the funny thing is that in person he is nothing like that. Calm, mellow, professional. You get him on the internet and all hell breaks loose |
| 22:15.31 | Osstia | and he is brutal on healers if he dies |
| 22:16.03 | Osstia | NeoTron: do you ask? or scream and invent new curse words |
| 22:16.10 | NeoTron | I say it as a joke |
| 22:16.13 | Osstia | haha |
| 22:16.17 | NeoTron | moar dots at least |
| 22:16.35 | NeoTron | no dots however has had valid cases but no I don't typicaly scream, yell or cuss |
| 22:16.38 | Shirik | NeoTron |
| 22:16.41 | foxlit | sigh, my spam trap is depressing me |
| 22:16.45 | Shirik | that's a bit .... scary |
| 22:16.59 | foxlit | So much persistent useless crap attempting to be displayed. |
| 22:17.02 | NeoTron | I can become very sarcastic however - my only regret is I can't really diss people too much on Mimiron because I've died myself a few times |
| 22:17.11 | Shirik | he keeps his "little friend" |
| 22:17.12 | NeoTron | Shirik: a bit freaky indeed |
| 22:17.18 | NeoTron | and that's rather bizarre |
| 22:17.38 | NeoTron | would have thought the body would have disolved it sometime in the past 30 years |
| 22:17.51 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:21.43 | Aezay | Shirik, will addons downloaded through Minion still increase the download counter on the site? |
| 22:21.59 | Shirik | That's a question for Dolby really |
| 22:22.46 | Kraps | hows this: priest = F15, pally = A-10, druid = F16, shammy = F-14 |
| 22:24.35 | Aezay | Will see if I can catch Dolby around at some point then |
| 22:25.59 | Kraps | yeah i'm cheesy like that |
| 22:30.30 | Kraps | can you get a fine if you post ads on buildings even if you have the owners permission? |
| 22:30.52 | Shirik | ... huh? |
| 22:31.11 | Kraps | yeah |
| 22:31.43 | Kraps | post i mean attach |
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| 22:34.33 | Kraps | Do I need a permit to put ads on buildings even with the owners permission in the question |
| 22:36.18 | aesir | Your city/town determines ad regulations, not property owners. Varies from place to place. |
| 22:36.34 | Kraps | aw crap |
| 22:39.17 | Kraps | "but the building owner would have to secure that permit on your behalf" this is correct? |
| 22:43.08 | Lunessa | Kraps: When in doubt - check your local laws. |
| 22:43.34 | Kraps | i'm trying |
| 22:43.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It varies city to city |
| 22:48.54 | Kraps | by the way http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=95578&p=1067372 |
| 22:49.42 | Shirik | I think he's craz |
| 22:49.43 | Shirik | y |
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| 22:52.31 | Jamash | bah the ptr is down |
| 22:52.40 | Jamash | where shall I get my free respecs from??? |
| 22:56.25 | NeoTron | ebay or craigslist |
| 22:56.45 | Kraps | i cant find it in the patch notes but i'm telling you it was like that |
| 22:58.36 | Kraps | brb supper |
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| 23:07.45 | Kraps | homemade pizza yum |
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| 23:24.17 | Kraps | woooo the ice giant says "this is my surprise face". awesome |
| 23:28.10 | Lunessa | http://notalwaysright.com/jurassic-farce/1816 |
| 23:33.44 | Shirik | sometimes I just can't believe that these things are real |
| 23:33.53 | Shirik | nobody can be that stupid |
| 23:35.48 | Arrowmaster | yes they can |
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| 23:36.24 | NeoTron | although not as much "out there" I once experienced what happened with a cashier at a local burger chain when the cash register was out |
| 23:36.57 | NeoTron | given $20 to pay for the $16.43 meal she was completely clueless of what to do |
| 23:37.21 | NeoTron | she ended up talking to another cash register with a comment similar to "I don't know what to do!" (with a somewhat panicky voice) |
| 23:37.47 | Shirik | It is rather depressing that many people who work in those jobs can't really do math |
| 23:38.20 | Shirik | I was incredibly impressed the other day at Ms. Fields |
| 23:38.23 | NeoTron | my 8yo son could probably figure that out |
| 23:38.28 | Shirik | the cash register was working and everything |
| 23:38.35 | NeoTron | they haven't learned fractions yet though |
| 23:38.37 | Shirik | but she did the math in her head faster than I could, never even typed it in |
| 23:38.39 | Arrowmaster | i can kinda see that happening, fast food places are completely automated in that sense, they input your order on the register and then everybody else sees it on the screens so they can fill it so if the register was out what are they going to do |
| 23:39.01 | Dagmar | OH MY GOD ARE YOU KIDDING? |
| 23:39.15 | Dagmar | Someone could get seriously injured trying to make a cheesburger without computer instruction! |
| 23:39.33 | Shirik | it is a dangerous profession |
| 23:39.34 | Gnarfoz | they simply wouldn't know that they SHOULD make a cheeseburger. |
| 23:39.42 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I could see such automated places (i.e McDonalds) have issues if the computer system was out |
| 23:39.59 | NeoTron | mainly because so many people aer involved in a typical order |
| 23:40.36 | Arrowmaster | if one register is broken in a situation like that the best thing to do is just shut it down and not use it |
| 23:41.04 | Shirik | When I worked at Best Buy, one of the best things that could happen to us is a register would break down |
| 23:41.19 | Shirik | beause then we get to use the offline forms when taking computers, instead of having to wait 5 minutes for STAR to start up |
| 23:42.33 | NeoTron | there's a local burger place (anoter one) where all orders were done w/o mechanical or digital help |
| 23:42.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 23:43.03 | NeoTron | place called Dick's. they hired a lot of college students and had college grants and such as part of the benefits |
| 23:43.28 | NeoTron | but.. nowadays I guess they can't find sufficient people able to do the orders in their heads anymore because they have reverted to normal cash registers |
| 23:44.03 | Shirik | or people were taking the money |
| 23:44.15 | Shirik | one of the most impotant points of a cash register is that it tracks incoming amounts that you can count later |
| 23:44.24 | Kraps | first pull reg AN /frown |
| 23:44.37 | Lunessa | At some places, it's so bad that the registers have pictures on the buttons. Big Mac meal? Press the big mac. |
| 23:44.39 | Lunessa | Sad |
| 23:44.44 | Kraps | this is not good |
| 23:45.04 | Shirik | imo soon cashiers will be a thing of the past |
| 23:45.10 | Shirik | it's already starting in supermarkets |
| 23:45.30 | Sargeras | I want this ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpVDpvg4ct8 |
| 23:47.05 | NeoTron | Shirik: possibly true too. another possibility is that the error rate got higher than they wanted (people summing up incorrectly) |
| 23:47.27 | NeoTron | best thing in super markets - self checkout |
| 23:49.29 | Kraps | badbadbad |
| 23:51.24 | Kraps | bad positioning bad aggro bad dk |
| 23:55.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke |
| 23:56.09 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: pong |
| 23:56.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: are you localizing Minion at all? |
| 23:56.35 | NeoTron | it'll have English and Swedish Chef |
| 23:56.37 | NeoTron | Bork Bork Bork |
| 23:56.45 | Shirik | not for beta, though some people have said they're interested in helping with it |
| 23:56.58 | ScytheBlade1 | How would you manage it? A ResourceBundle? |
| 23:57.05 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:57.15 | NeoTron | I contemplated the same for my little MagicDKP Downloader. Never done anything localized with Java |
| 23:57.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Just making sure that's the "right way of doing things" |
| 23:57.23 | Shirik | I use JDesktop which provides very good means to work with resources |
| 23:58.09 | NeoTron | I use IntelliJ IDEA. I bet it has perfectly fine tools too |
| 23:59.11 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:59.17 | Shirik | NeoTron: JDesktop is not an IDE :) |
| 23:59.24 | Shirik | NetBeans is my IDE |
| 23:59.27 | Shirik | JDesktop is a library |
| 23:59.30 | NeoTron | oh :P |
| 23:59.44 | Shirik | https://jdic.dev.java.net/ |
| 23:59.45 | NeoTron | can you tell I don't do a lot of app work? |
| 23:59.57 | Shirik | JDesktop helps with a lot of the typically os-dependent stuff |
