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| 00:10.59 | tekkub | Salty Evilzoidberg |
| 00:11.03 | tekkub | classic |
| 00:11.11 | Jamash | nice |
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| 00:57.21 | kd3 | gah. wru female dwarf? |
| 01:09.14 | Shirik | tackles kd3 |
| 01:09.20 | Shirik | and Seerah |
| 01:09.30 | kd3 | yay! 'kd3 the Noble' |
| 01:10.04 | kd3 | now to go farm for the elegant dress and tome of poly: rabbit |
| 01:11.41 | Jamash | wait what |
| 01:11.46 | Jamash | there's a polymorph rabbit tome? |
| 01:12.46 | kd3 | part of noblegarden |
| 01:12.54 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Noblegarden#Vendors |
| 01:15.01 | Jamash | oh, you can only see it on the vendor if you're a mage? |
| 01:15.08 | kd3 | probably |
| 01:16.02 | Jamash | I was on a zeppelin, and my Spring Rabbit was popping out babies |
| 01:16.10 | Jamash | and some of them were flying off the zeppelin >.> |
| 01:16.18 | mikma | cruel |
| 01:16.27 | Jamash | it was kind of disturbing |
| 01:17.23 | Legorol | the shaking achi is almost impossible :( |
| 01:17.29 | Legorol | how am i going to find a female dwarf or orc |
| 01:17.34 | mikma | muhaha |
| 01:17.38 | kd3 | ask in /1 in dalaran? |
| 01:17.41 | mikma | pay someone to create those |
| 01:17.50 | kd3 | they've gotta be level 18, though |
| 01:17.53 | Legorol | i'd been running AVs and strolling around dalaran and other cities |
| 01:18.00 | kd3 | no 'trollrogue's this time around >.> |
| 01:18.15 | Legorol | kd3: the solution we came up with in guild is to roll DKs |
| 01:18.23 | Legorol | steamrolling the start area for those is really fast |
| 01:18.30 | Legorol | unfortunately, most people have used their 10 slots |
| 01:18.52 | Jamash | I found a female orc without too much trouble, but yeah dwarf is gonna be hard |
| 01:19.28 | Jamash | I was just following a female gnome around dal waiting for my cooldown but she went in the alli only area :( |
| 01:21.11 | mikma | legorol: too bad you arent on eu servers, muhahaha |
| 01:22.04 | Jamash | I should charge people money to log on to my female troll alt |
| 01:22.49 | kd3 | bah, fail. just procced eternal shadow to earth |
| 01:27.50 | Adys | WHY |
| 01:27.59 | Adys | isnt there an achievement named "Chocolate Rain" for noblegarden |
| 01:28.01 | Adys | blizz failing me |
| 01:32.43 | Jamash | Adys: good question |
| 01:33.03 | mikma | cause then they would have to do a "golden shower" for childrens week |
| 01:33.07 | Legorol | Adys: nope |
| 01:33.20 | Adys | nope what? |
| 01:33.23 | mikma | "spray some shampagne on your minion" |
| 01:33.52 | Legorol | mikma: I *am* on EU, why? |
| 01:33.58 | Legorol | shall i scroll up and read |
| 01:34.33 | mikma | legorol: how much will you pay if i come to your sefver and create a (foo) race |
| 01:34.43 | Legorol | i'll return the favour :) |
| 01:34.49 | Legorol | i'll roll a DK on your realm |
| 01:35.12 | mikma | that requires you to play there for 1.5h |
| 01:35.21 | Legorol | better than leveling to 18 ^^ |
| 01:35.31 | Legorol | i can get that done tomorrow for sure |
| 01:35.42 | Legorol | well not 100% sure but i think i'll have time |
| 01:35.45 | Legorol | if you are still in need |
| 01:35.48 | mikma | well same, since i am at the bed now |
| 01:36.04 | Jamash | let's see, where would a level 20-ish female dwarf be leveling |
| 01:36.16 | kd3 | wetlands? |
| 01:36.17 | mikma | turned my pc off for 3 hours ago |
| 01:36.30 | Jamash | sounds about right |
| 01:36.50 | Legorol | wetlands, aye |
| 01:36.58 | Legorol | mikma: so want me to roll a race for you? |
| 01:37.10 | Legorol | I'm on Silvermoon, if you are willing to roll a tauren female |
| 01:37.13 | mikma | legorol: if you have a lock there... the dk can be summoned without completing the start (afaik) |
| 01:37.20 | mikma | silvermoon!! |
| 01:37.21 | Legorol | nope, they can't be |
| 01:37.23 | Legorol | they are phased |
| 01:37.37 | mikma | the area is phased |
| 01:37.42 | Legorol | yes silvermoon, why? |
| 01:37.45 | mikma | i am surre ie. dalaran aint |
| 01:37.55 | mikma | i used to play in silvermoon, alliance |
| 01:37.57 | Legorol | well, summoning is certainly worth a try |
| 01:38.04 | mikma | then i migrated my chars away |
| 01:38.22 | Legorol | mikma: are you around tomorrow? |
| 01:38.34 | Legorol | I'd love to roll a race of your choice on your realm, and see if you can summon me out of there |
| 01:38.57 | mikma | ya, for the whole day, until 19.30 after that, 4h+ raid and free |
| 01:38.59 | Legorol | name your race and realm :) |
| 01:39.08 | Legorol | ok, will you be in here too :) |
| 01:39.11 | Legorol | i'll just poke you tomorrow |
| 01:39.24 | Legorol | if summoning works, i'd much appreciate if you chain-create a few races for me ;) |
| 01:39.31 | mikma | ya, do that. also, i got a lock so summonin is .. "easy" to try |
| 01:39.37 | Legorol | ok |
| 01:39.41 | Legorol | thanks |
| 01:40.09 | mikma | bed irc <3 |
| 01:40.22 | mikma | legorol: ummm |
| 01:40.24 | Legorol | mikma: actually, if lock works, summoning stone might work too |
| 01:40.33 | mikma | legorol: what class was ir? tauren? |
| 01:40.41 | Legorol | well i need a bunch :) |
| 01:40.47 | Legorol | all of the horde ones except BE |
| 01:40.51 | Legorol | but tauren seems hardest to find |
| 01:41.05 | mikma | female tauren? |
| 01:41.08 | Legorol | yes |
| 01:41.35 | mikma | too bad my wife migrated her lvl65 tauren druid off from here month ago |
| 01:41.47 | mikma | i got my lvl65 tauren shaman there =D |
| 01:41.53 | mikma | male.. |
| 01:42.06 | mikma | here=there |
| 01:42.07 | Legorol | PCRC? |
| 01:42.39 | mikma | personal computer rally cup? |
| 01:45.43 | Legorol | paid character recustomisation |
| 01:46.14 | mikma | lol wasted 9e |
| 01:48.25 | Jamash | I'm going to run around wintergrasp looking for female dwarves :P |
| 01:48.39 | Jamash | (and doing the fishing daily) |
| 01:57.11 | Jamash | ever seen a bug where your camera gets fixed at a particular direction and won't follow your character? |
| 02:00.10 | mikma | yes, that happens if you keep ctrl down while you change the angle |
| 02:02.26 | Jamash | nyet, good sir |
| 02:03.15 | Jamash | this continues to happen even after resetting the camera |
| 02:03.32 | Kraftman | i get that sometimes :( |
| 02:04.06 | Jamash | it seems to happen mostly in combat when I'm spinning and jumping and getting shot at |
| 02:04.14 | Jamash | s/combat/pvp/ |
| 02:06.13 | Jamash | nothing seems to fix it except relogging |
| 02:17.32 | Kraftman | purl is alive again :D |
| 02:18.56 | Olison | cheers at purl |
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| 02:33.52 | kd3 | yawns |
| 02:33.56 | kd3 | wtb 25 more chocolate |
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| 02:34.56 | NightHawkTheSane | There's something depressing with your recount fight history being 15 lines of the same goddamn boss |
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| 02:35.47 | kd3 | ulduar > naxx? |
| 02:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. |
| 02:36.18 | NightHawkTheSane | our raid group is kinda fail sometimes |
| 02:36.30 | kd3 | kinda? sometimes? |
| 02:36.35 | kd3 | >.> |
| 02:36.53 | NightHawkTheSane | once in a while, if we have the right people,a nd the planets align, they do some pretty impressive things. |
| 02:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | most of the time, though. it's a week of wiping to razorscale |
| 02:44.17 | ajmitch | NightHawkTheSane: I know how that feels - we had a night of wiping on malygos last week... |
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| 03:00.58 | kd3 | yay! Noblegarden -- complete |
| 03:01.04 | kd3 | now to idle until children's week |
| 03:01.35 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 03:01.58 | Kraftman | i have less than 12 hours to write 20 more pages of my thesis :( |
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| 03:03.36 | Dewin | Kraftman: http://www.lipsum.com/ |
| 03:03.44 | Dewin | generate 20 pages of thesis easily. |
| 03:03.51 | Kraftman | :P |
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| 03:05.23 | kd3 | wahaha... good thing about all of that egg farming... I still have 14 charges left to turn my raid lead into a rabbit tonight |
| 03:05.41 | kd3 | puts on an evil smirk |
| 03:06.17 | Kraftman | Dewin: now i just need something similar for generating arbitrary diagrams and im sorted! |
| 03:08.06 | Dewin | Kraftsman: Have each Lorem Ipsum word represent a shape, with the number of points equal to numvowels + 2. Connect all shapes in a sentence with lines. If it's between sentences, use an arrow. Done! |
| 03:08.44 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 03:09.17 | sysrage_ | WOOKIE COOKIES |
| 03:09.40 | Kraftman | it seems no matter how much i write i never get past 27 pages :( |
| 03:12.17 | Adys | the ONLY good thing about noblegarden |
| 03:12.21 | Adys | you can do it on a lvl 1 |
| 03:12.32 | Adys | (entirely up to the title that is) |
| 03:15.16 | Kraftman | when does the event end? |
| 03:15.29 | kd3 | may 2? |
| 03:15.32 | kd3 | check your calendar |
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| 03:17.47 | sysrage_ | http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/datamancer-deco-keyboard/ |
| 03:17.48 | sysrage_ | i want that |
| 03:17.57 | sysrage_ | err ya. wrong window. sorry to keep spammin ya'll with random crap |
| 03:20.12 | kd3 | gah. mind blank... is there a tertiary operator in lua? |
| 03:20.35 | kd3 | if (foo?bar:baz) |
| 03:21.10 | Adys | and/or iirc |
| 03:21.21 | Adys | actually no |
| 03:21.23 | Adys | thats only python |
| 03:22.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ternary |
| 03:22.23 | NightHawkTheSane | and it's a and b or c i think? |
| 03:22.35 | kd3 | looks for more caffeine |
| 03:23.19 | Adys | lua> return true and "foo" or "bar" |
| 03:23.20 | lua_bot | Adys: foo |
| 03:23.25 | Adys | lua> return false and "foo" or "bar" |
| 03:23.26 | lua_bot | Adys: bar |
| 03:23.35 | Adys | mm was lua too |
| 03:23.38 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 03:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | lots of languages have ternary operators |
| 03:24.10 | NightHawkTheSane | admittedly, lua doesn't really have a ternary operator so much as you make one out of the idocycrasies of it's boolean operations |
| 03:24.12 | Adys | lua/python are the only ones I know using and/or instead of other operators |
| 03:24.24 | NightHawkTheSane | apologies for the spelling mistakes, i'm not sober. |
| 03:24.35 | NightHawkTheSane | php can use and/or, but it also uses && and || |
| 03:24.37 | Adys | is it a good time to make a momjoke |
| 03:24.43 | jennicide | addons can write to a text file, correct? |
| 03:24.46 | Adys | no |
| 03:24.54 | Adys | they can write to savedvariables |
| 03:24.56 | NightHawkTheSane | they can only write to SVs |
| 03:24.57 | Adys | thats as far as it goes |
| 03:25.02 | jennicide | ahh |
| 03:25.23 | NightHawkTheSane | and SVs are only written on logout & reloadui |
| 03:26.24 | jennicide | so there is no way to get an addon to interact with mirc? |
| 03:26.30 | kd3 | no |
| 03:26.44 | kd3 | wow addons are in a sandbox that cannot interact with the outside world in real-time |
| 03:26.47 | Adys | (and stop using mirc) |
| 03:26.58 | jennicide | why? mirc is great |
| 03:27.06 | Adys | because mirc is horrible |
| 03:27.29 | jennicide | so is your face |
| 03:29.21 | Kraftman | original |
| 03:31.16 | Kraftman | depending on what you're tryign to do, you can make a script that reads from the saved variablea and outputs to mirc, but as stated above, you'd have to reloadui every time you wanted to update them. |
| 03:33.47 | kd3 | oh wow... that's a song I haven't heard in forever... 'tamashii no rufuran' |
| 03:36.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 03:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | +1 random? |
| 03:37.22 | kd3 | pretty much. I've got banshee just hitting random tracks in my ~20 day collection |
| 03:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 03:39.49 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 03:42.12 | NightHawkTheSane | I should make a smart playlist like that. |
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| 04:18.27 | Adys | wow close >< |
| 04:18.35 | Adys | soloed chillmaw as frost |
| 04:18.51 | Adys | fire barely makes a dent, thought I could keep running him around |
| 04:20.18 | NightHawkTheSane | o |
| 04:20.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i've been meaning to try solling her as resto |
| 04:20.30 | NightHawkTheSane | soloing* |
| 04:20.42 | Adys | not really hard with heals |
| 04:20.59 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the pita is the spawned dudes with their bombs |
| 04:21.04 | Adys | needed 3 attempts to get it right |
| 04:21.13 | Adys | you can keep running around |
| 04:21.25 | Adys | no targeted attack |
| 04:25.43 | End | bunny ears! |
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| 04:37.00 | kd3 | ok... this is bad. we got a bad breath on razor at like 5% |
| 04:37.04 | kd3 | I think the npcs are going to kill him |
| 04:37.14 | kd3 | her* |
| 04:38.54 | Fisker- | btw |
| 04:39.02 | Fisker- | you can use the breath on the enemy npcs? |
| 04:40.05 | End | you have npcs alive still? |
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| 04:41.20 | Fisker- | can't escape the fact(atleast pre-nerf) that you'd get dwarves when the 4th harpoon was ready |
| 04:43.07 | End | we didn't get dwarves at all on 4th harpoon when we first killed him |
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| 04:43.14 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/574/ |
| 04:43.19 | Adys | poor hannelore |
| 04:43.21 | End | if anything, it's more of an issue now |
| 04:43.44 | Fisker- | i wouldn't know, haven't done him with the new changes |
| 04:43.48 | Kazie | We had the same issue on the first few tries Fisker, you just need to get the forth harpoon of asap. |
| 04:45.14 | End | hm, well, we didn't get to do ulduar the first few days, either |
| 04:45.54 | Fisker- | Kazie i wouldn't be saying right when the 4th harpoon was ready if i didn't mean it |
| 04:46.38 | Kazie | Well you didn't.. at least not after i joined :) |
| 04:46.48 | End | we saw that once after the changes, but not before |
| 04:47.14 | End | and it wasn't very often |
| 04:47.21 | Fisker- | [06:40:26] * Joins: Kazie (n=k@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 04:47.21 | Fisker- | [06:41:21] <Fisker-> can't escape the fact(atleast pre-nerf) that you'd get dwarves when the 4th harpoon was ready |
| 04:48.11 | Kazie | Ye pre-nerf there the harpoons and dwarf spawns were timed so you could get the forth harpoon of before another pack of dwarfs would spawn |
| 04:48.25 | End | yeah |
| 04:48.40 | Fisker- | not here |
| 04:49.05 | Fisker- | (And yes we actually had someone dedicated for harpoons just to check that out) |
| 04:49.18 | Kazie | Maybe your Harpoon dude, were just too slow ^^ |
| 04:49.33 | Kazie | I doubt the fight fight is diffrent from server to server :) |
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| 04:50.16 | Fisker- | i doubt the fight isn't random |
| 04:51.13 | Kazie | I don't see the random elemental, aside from the dwarfs and sentinel spawn locations :) |
| 04:55.18 | Kazie | does anyone here use CurseClient? |
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| 04:57.43 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 05:00.10 | Kazie | is it worth using today? |
| 05:00.28 | Kazie | Or does it still bug and install addons on its own, addons which you never checked it for. |
| 05:01.41 | Thunder_Child | never had that issue in the first place |
| 05:02.17 | Kazie | hows the mass update feature? is it still a paid feature? |
| 05:02.36 | Thunder_Child | no, that still has not been implemented |
| 05:02.49 | Thunder_Child | it was never an implemented feature |
| 05:03.02 | Thunder_Child | just something they were going to do |
| 05:04.02 | Kazie | that's really sad to here.. might as well manually update by downloading directly from wowace then.. i thought it was fixed by now. |
| 05:05.09 | Thunder_Child | what? no i mean the payed part is nbot implemented |
| 05:05.55 | Kazie | but the feature is? i just remember it beeing restricted when i tried the client back in .. when it was released. |
| 05:05.59 | Codayus | It's always done mass updating. |
| 05:06.31 | Thunder_Child | ya, they are going to make it payed only but have still not implemented that yet |
| 05:06.54 | Codayus | To clarify: Mass update has always been in, and has always worked. Restricting it to premium members is planned, but has never happened. |
| 05:07.33 | Thunder_Child | yes, thank you Codayus, pvp + irc does not always equal coherent typing |
| 05:08.15 | Fisker- | everyone is premium now |
| 05:08.35 | Kazie | Okay, maybe i should try it again.. i just remember back when i tried it after they nuked WAU, it was bugged like hell and for some reason it installed like 10 diffrent addons i didn't ask for everytime i updated :P |
| 05:08.58 | Fisker- | but as far as i know it was never mass updating you couldn't do |
| 05:09.04 | Fisker- | It was automatically updating without user input |
| 05:11.20 | Kazie | What websites does it get it's addons from btw? |
| 05:11.24 | Kazie | Wowace, curse and wowinterface or? |
| 05:13.18 | Codayus | Kazie: Haven't encountered any bugs like that. Nor heard people complaining, so I'd assume it's working. |
| 05:13.19 | Fisker- | curse |
| 05:13.24 | Fisker- | but curse = wowace basically |
| 05:13.30 | NightHawkTheSane | cures client uses wowace, curseforge, and curse |
| 05:13.31 | Codayus | Note that ...what Fisker said. |
| 05:13.35 | NightHawkTheSane | which more or less are all the same back end |
| 05:13.43 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 05:13.43 | Codayus | And NightHawkTheSane. I type slow. :-/ |
| 05:14.46 | Kazie | It is possible to see changelogs within Curse Client? |
| 05:15.00 | Corrodias_2 | it is possible to see my buttocks within Curse Client |
| 05:15.09 | Corrodias_2 | it isn't actually, but that would make it superior |
| 05:15.17 | Corrodias_2 | so guys, how's the anti-WM business going? |
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| 05:27.42 | NeoTron | ok so I absolutely hate phase 2/4 nukes on Mimiron as melee |
| 05:27.43 | kd3 | yay! single-handedly responsible for getting [Shattered] tonight |
| 05:27.48 | NeoTron | that nuke is impossible to see |
| 05:28.20 | Kazie | :D |
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| 05:31.48 | msou| | is there an addon that shows you allies near by? or warns you even? |
| 05:32.02 | msou| | I wondered if QH has that feuture |
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| 05:33.24 | Wobin | zomg |
| 05:33.25 | Wobin | http://womzilla.livejournal.com/245453.html |
| 05:33.38 | Wobin | awesome covers by Max Raabe and the Palast Orchester |
| 05:49.20 | Thunder_Child | wow....facial data mining... |
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| 05:56.53 | Wobin | ..sounds painful |
| 05:57.12 | msou| | Painful to see a n00b camp you for an hour |
| 05:58.00 | Adys | painful to see numbers inside a dumb word |
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| 06:00.18 | Syzgyn_ | curses his internets |
| 06:01.20 | msou| | it is indeed monday |
| 06:01.40 | msou| | you had a busy weekend and it's time to reward yourself trolling here and there |
| 06:02.00 | msou| | bah I don't feel like arguing over your attitude |
| 06:02.08 | msou| | not my job to feed kids until they explode |
| 06:02.24 | Thunder_Child | dont bother, Adys is fail in general |
| 06:02.58 | Kazie | Why even bother comment on such a thing |
| 06:03.12 | Thunder_Child | bored? |
| 06:03.34 | Kazie | noob/n00b .. nab.. whatever.. the real funny thin is one of the American Idol contestants this year is called Anoob for is first name ;) |
| 06:03.45 | Kazie | his* |
| 06:03.55 | msou| | what's evwn funnier is that you watch that show :P |
| 06:03.59 | Kazie | Naah |
| 06:04.05 | Kazie | I watched it one time |
| 06:04.11 | Kazie | and i noticed it :P |
| 06:04.15 | msou| | hehe |
| 06:04.21 | Kazie | Other than that i only watch the qualifications, i mean.. that's epic |
| 06:04.31 | Kazie | If you saw some of them tards going throw that room :P |
| 06:04.37 | Kazie | through* |
| 06:05.02 | Thunder_Child | i see tards every day, dont need to watch them |
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| 06:05.22 | msou| | I don't watch Tv =) movies and old series i.e. frasier and the like |
| 06:05.50 | Thunder_Child | actually...it's quite possible that they are some of the tards i deal with |
| 06:06.23 | Kazie | I rarely watch it myself unless there's something funny.. like the worldwide Wipeout show, from argentina.. that's hilarious. |
| 06:06.29 | msou| | tards you camp you when you're a low level for them :/ |
| 06:06.35 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: You must have some funny workdays then :) |
| 06:06.57 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, work? what work...i meant just walking down the street |
| 06:07.05 | msou| | hehe |
| 06:07.11 | Kazie | Weekdays then if you like :) |
| 06:07.22 | Kazie | Some countries call it workdays, some weekdays :) |
| 06:07.23 | msou| | Thunder_Child: summer time is the time to see those ppl. jeans and flip flop :/ |
| 06:07.33 | Kazie | are you kidding? |
| 06:07.37 | Thunder_Child | i live in LA, i move w/o hitting a tard |
| 06:07.39 | Kazie | Flip flops > all in the summer! :P |
| 06:07.40 | Thunder_Child | i cant move* |
| 06:07.43 | msou| | and I swear some men carry purses now. one chineese boy does that here and the other dude say "it's normal in asia" |
| 06:08.19 | Kazie | LA .. would love to live there :) but it's not really within my reach atm. hehe. |
| 06:08.32 | Wobin | hm |
| 06:08.32 | Thunder_Child | dont be so sure till you live here |
| 06:08.41 | Thunder_Child | not really all it's cracked up to be |
| 06:08.48 | Wobin | is there any way to programmatically determine what stage you are in an achievement? |
| 06:09.02 | msou| | if I even move to the US. I'd want to live in Seattle |
| 06:09.04 | Wobin | eg, the Bunny one for noblegarden |
| 06:09.17 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: Maybe not if you lived there for a long time, but i've been to the states :) |
| 06:09.31 | Wobin | like figuring out that you need to target an elf, dwarf and tauren |
| 06:09.47 | Kazie | Wobin: Check your achievement window? |
| 06:09.55 | Wobin | programatically =P |
| 06:10.02 | Kazie | You lost me |
| 06:10.06 | Wobin | code |
| 06:10.09 | Kazie | I know |
| 06:10.12 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, yes but you would have to have a DB |
| 06:10.15 | Thunder_Child | and record it |
| 06:10.15 | Kazie | You still lost me :P |
| 06:10.22 | Thunder_Child | i dont think there is an API to pull it |
| 06:10.29 | Wobin | never mind Kazie |
| 06:10.59 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: hm, k |
| 06:11.16 | Thunder_Child | not sure why you are listening to me th |
| 06:11.19 | Thunder_Child | tbh* |
| 06:11.25 | Wobin | maybe I'll ignore that and just have the age/gender/race check |
| 06:11.27 | msou| | I'd love to see some sort of a warning if an ally is near by or some such |
| 06:11.43 | Fisker- | vanakos |
| 06:11.43 | Fisker- | go |
| 06:12.34 | Kazie | msoul: I'm no king of code, but i don't think it's possible like that - Oterwise it would have been made long ago i think :) |
| 06:14.12 | msou| | Kazie: I never cared for it to be thruthful, I was questing yesterday and a guy asked for help. and all of the sudden he said "ally here" I don't see anyone? no carbonite tells me if there is one near by... Ok |
| 06:14.45 | msou| | truthful |
| 06:15.47 | msou| | I have two addons only so far.. QH and Ac =) will need omen since all I do is instances lately :/ |
| 06:16.03 | msou| | or for the most part |
| 06:16.18 | Thunder_Child | well yes, if everyone had an addon that continually posted it's pos to a channel it could work |
| 06:16.29 | Thunder_Child | but everyone would have to have it or they wont show up |
| 06:16.39 | Trela | I am soon going to ingest prepackage and precooked meat balls that where frozen immediately on 11/25/2003. |
| 06:16.50 | kd3 | eew |
| 06:16.52 | kd3 | bad idea |
| 06:17.08 | Kazie | Why would someone put such an image in other ppls head? |
| 06:17.15 | Thunder_Child | fun |
| 06:17.36 | Kazie | But kd3 will have nightmares for weeks now about meat balls |
| 06:17.43 | Kazie | evil meat balls! |
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| 06:18.17 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: What's the time in LA atm. btw? |
| 06:18.24 | msou| | what other addons you guys recommend for instances etc? |
| 06:18.40 | Kazie | Just omen |
| 06:18.45 | Kazie | Nothing else is needed |
| 06:18.47 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, 11:18 PM |
| 06:18.50 | msou| | excellent |
| 06:18.53 | Kazie | if you're a healer to hell with omen |
| 06:19.03 | msou| | well, I've been playing WoW for a month now |
| 06:19.15 | msou| | luckily I am not |
| 06:19.22 | Thunder_Child | i dont use omen as a DPS'er either |
| 06:19.31 | msou| | now they ask me for tanking and I don't have a good gear for it but I try |
| 06:19.32 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: damn.. that's almost 10 hours diffrence |
| 06:19.46 | Thunder_Child | mouseover of the target has aggro |
| 06:19.54 | msou| | just a silly question and feel free to ignore it |
| 06:19.57 | Thunder_Child | Kazie, -8 GMT |
| 06:20.02 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: naah it's not really needed no. but there's a lot of tards out there :o |
| 06:20.19 | Fisker- | one of my resolutions for 2009 was to stop ignoring the etsy shop and to not spin my wheels all day (these two problems are very related) i am the queen of walking in circles around the house and not really getting anything accomplished |
| 06:20.21 | Fisker- | how poetic |
| 06:20.24 | msou| | is there something you can do to have auto-attack buttons? |
| 06:20.30 | Kazie | Thunder_Child: +1 here |
| 06:20.41 | msou| | like you don't have to press 1,2,3,4-9 stuff |
| 06:21.06 | Wobin | msou|: you mean have the game played for you? |
| 06:21.07 | Thunder_Child | msou|, do you really want to play a game that involves nothing but 1 button? |
| 06:21.10 | msou| | bleh I cannot explain my question in english :/ |
| 06:21.14 | msou| | Wobin: no hehe |
| 06:21.21 | Kazie | msoul: what do you mean? |
| 06:21.39 | Wobin | msou|: You could always explain in your native language, and see if purl can translate =) |
| 06:21.46 | Kazie | msoul: do you want it to automatically cast your spells? |
| 06:21.56 | Kazie | Wobin: how does that work btw? |
| 06:22.00 | Thunder_Child | ~x |
| 06:22.04 | Wobin | ^ |
| 06:22.07 | Thunder_Child | ~ en sp wow |
| 06:22.10 | Trela | spits out the meat balls. |
| 06:22.13 | Thunder_Child | ~x en sp wow |
| 06:22.14 | msou| | Wobin: Suomi, se on niin shokki jos suomalaiset talla |
| 06:22.14 | Trela | Nevermind. Horrible! |
| 06:22.15 | msou| | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.17 | msou| | =) |
| 06:22.33 | Thunder_Child | what language is that msou|? |
| 06:22.39 | msou| | Kazie: not automagically but |
| 06:22.41 | haste | ~x no en kake |
| 06:22.45 | haste | >:( |
| 06:22.52 | Wobin | what language is that, msou|? =) |
| 06:22.54 | Adys | finnish Thunder_Child |
| 06:22.57 | msou| | Finnish |
| 06:23.00 | Thunder_Child | ~x fn en Suomi, se on niin shokki jos suomalaiset talla |
| 06:23.02 | Trela | ~x en cake cake |
| 06:23.03 | Kazie | msoul: If i understand you correctly you are looking for a cast sequence or alike. |
| 06:23.15 | Thunder_Child | whats the 2 letter combo for finnish? |
| 06:23.45 | Adys | fi |
| 06:23.45 | Thunder_Child | ~x fi en Suomi, se on niin shokki jos suomalaiset talla |
| 06:23.45 | Thunder_Child | ty |
| 06:23.45 | Thunder_Child | well, purl fails |
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| 06:23.45 | haste | we broke it |
| 06:23.48 | Trela | ~purl |
| 06:23.48 | purl | ACTION coughs up a hairball |
| 06:23.51 | Kazie | he bwoke it! |
| 06:23.53 | msou| | Kazie: to some extent yes |
| 06:23.54 | Trela | See! |
| 06:23.57 | Adys | ~x fi to se on niin shokki jos suomalaiset talla |
| 06:23.59 | Trela | Totally broke it. |
| 06:24.01 | Arrowmaster | heh me and a warrior just killed chillwind in less than a minute after having to wait like 3 minutes watching another group kill him with even more people |
| 06:24.03 | Thunder_Child | Trela tried to translate english to cake language |
| 06:24.06 | msou| | Kazie: also to have a better actionbar than the default one |
| 06:24.18 | Kazie | msoul: use Bartender4 then, brilliant addon |
| 06:24.27 | msou| | let me google it |
| 06:24.29 | Trela | I was expecting Purl to say the cake is a lie. |
| 06:24.32 | Thunder_Child | bt4 is mich win |
| 06:24.36 | Thunder_Child | much* |
| 06:25.12 | msou| | Kazie: any screenshot you can provide? =) |
| 06:25.17 | Adys | Thunder_Child: but from reading the sentence it sounds like its not his question but a comment about his language:p |
| 06:25.19 | Kazie | gimme a sec |
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| 06:25.27 | msou| | much thanks in advance |
| 06:25.49 | Kazie | msoul: http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/kzuiminiv5/kazieui_v5_mini.jpg |
| 06:26.08 | Adys | DONT MAKE CATAPULTS |
| 06:26.15 | msou| | 11 only? |
| 06:26.24 | Kazie | Don't mind my setup |
| 06:26.31 | msou| | ah ok hehe |
| 06:26.37 | Kazie | I have 3 other barsx12 buttons hiden |
| 06:26.39 | Kazie | hidden* |
| 06:26.40 | msou| | I use every single cast that I know of... |
| 06:26.49 | msou| | ah |
| 06:26.50 | Kazie | They only show on mouseover, i use CooldownButtons to keep track on cooldowns |
| 06:27.00 | msou| | aw |
| 06:27.16 | Kazie | http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/kzuiminiv4/kzuiminiv4_raid.jpg <--- there you can see my former version of this UI.. look at the bottom middle. |
| 06:27.25 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: GetAchivementCriteriaInfo(2422,[1-10]) |
| 06:27.33 | Wobin | er, with spelling correct |
| 06:27.42 | Wobin | but that'll give me which races I need to bunny |
| 06:27.53 | Thunder_Child | 23:11.17 Thunder_Child: not sure why you are listening to me th |
| 06:27.53 | Thunder_Child | 23:11.19 Thunder_Child: tbh* |
| 06:27.55 | Thunder_Child | see |
| 06:27.55 | Antiarc | What's the current best addon for tracking opponent cooldowns? |
| 06:28.00 | msou| | Kazie: I'm at lvl 62 now DK.. I like use all casts in instances |
| 06:28.16 | Adys | Antiarc: OpponentCooldowns |
| 06:28.18 | Kazie | msoul: all casts? |
| 06:28.19 | msou| | I still don't know if this is better than this to hit with etc but working on it |
| 06:28.36 | Kazie | msoul: sorry i don't play DK my self, so i'm not really sure what "all casts" include :) |
| 06:28.44 | msou| | hehe I mean |
| 06:29.07 | msou| | blood plague, whatever plague etc everything |
| 06:29.35 | msou| | 1-9 and the right/left actionbars |
| 06:29.41 | Kazie | msou|: Well, you will need a cast sequence for that if you want them all in one button. |
| 06:29.58 | kd3 | ah, hi there kolo |
| 06:30.02 | kd3 | *smack* |
| 06:30.05 | msou| | cast sequence? |
| 06:30.08 | kd3 | the spirit healer's just laughing at me now |
| 06:30.39 | Arrowmaster | for what? |
| 06:30.50 | kd3 | leeroying him |
| 06:30.51 | Kazie | Yes, you put multiple abilities into one button, like first-click will cast Ice Touch, second will cast Blood plague etc. or whatever they are called |
| 06:31.04 | Kazie | When you then exceed the list of abilities it will reset |
| 06:31.23 | Kazie | if you make a castrandom macro, it will randomly cast the abilities in macro, without order. |
| 06:31.36 | msou| | Sweet Mouses |
| 06:32.04 | msou| | how do you do that cast sequence? |
| 06:32.16 | kd3 | and ick, fark: 'Texans, get your chainsaws ready. Man-bird-pig zombie apocalypse has closed 14 Texan schools. Remember, go for the head [Followup]' |
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| 06:33.01 | msou| | ugliest forums I've seen so far http://wowmb.net/forums/f23/16255-help_use_cast_sequence/ |
| 06:33.54 | Kazie | There are many forums that has very good walk-through of macro-creation.. |
| 06:34.18 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro |
| 06:34.19 | msou| | I'm checking wowwiki =) thanks I truly needed that |
| 06:35.08 | msou| | yeah I am there, thanks |
| 06:35.46 | Kazie | Try this one: http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros_for_death_knights |
| 06:35.51 | Kazie | Maybe you can find something useful there |
| 06:36.22 | msou| | thanks again =) |
| 06:36.31 | Kazie | msou|: np ^^ |
| 06:37.29 | msou| | well, yesterday I lvled to 62, learnt new talents and was happy to have one "just for fun" the jesus walk spell |
| 06:40.35 | msou| | so all I have to do is /cast whatever (rank 2) for instance and add every cast under it to make one single button for it if I understood it correctly |
| 06:40.57 | Kazie | You can't do that duo to GCD |
| 06:41.05 | Kazie | But that's were cast sequences come to play |
| 06:41.15 | msou| | Hmm |
| 06:42.59 | Jamash | sometimes you can cast more than one thing at once, but only if all but one are off the GCD |
| 06:43.13 | Kazie | Or if they are on diffrent GCDs |
| 06:43.21 | Jamash | there's only one GCD |
| 06:43.42 | Kazie | depends |
| 06:44.13 | Arrowmaster | theres some oddities with pet/vehicle GCDs |
| 06:44.13 | Kazie | e.g. Hunter Aspects all have the same GCB, but it's seperate from all other types of abilties. |
| 06:44.25 | Arrowmaster | and that |
| 06:44.54 | Jamash | hunter aspects have a shared, non-global cooldown |
| 06:46.01 | Jamash | anyway I have a /cast bestial wrath /cast berserking /cast kill command /cast rapid fire /use 13 macro on my troll hunter |
| 06:46.02 | Fisker- | attacks |
| 06:46.20 | Kazie | I'd still say it depends on perspective.. traps would have a shared CD as since they actually have a cooldown, Aspects are without CD but still wit the GCD 1 sec. |
| 06:46.31 | Kazie | with* |
| 06:47.20 | Kazie | I didn't know that Rapid Fire and Bestial Wrath is off the same CD |
| 06:49.25 | Fisker- | http://xkcd.com/ <-hurr |
| 06:50.27 | Jamash | it's kind of odd that some of the spring clothing is bop and some isn't |
| 06:51.06 | Fisker- | naw |
| 06:51.10 | Fisker- | they're catering to casuals |
| 06:51.21 | airtonix | ergo the deathknight class |
| 06:51.45 | airtonix | percentage of deathknights rolling need on my tanking gear while in a dps role: 100% |
| 06:52.04 | airtonix | number of deathknights asking me to tank for them in the last hour : 38 |
| 06:52.14 | Arrowmaster | the stuff that isnt bop is the stuff thats from previous years |
| 06:52.21 | Arrowmaster | and wasnt bop then |
| 06:52.26 | msou| | Kazie: is there more info about cast sequence when I open that macro window on how to do the basic one for instance |
| 06:54.16 | msou| | better check it when I get home |
| 06:54.43 | Kazie | msou|: http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro |
| 06:54.45 | Kazie | CHeck that |
| 06:55.57 | msou| | I took a quick look at it =) at work better check it when I get home |
| 07:04.28 | Kazie | You're propably right ;) |
| 07:07.06 | msou| | hehe |
| 07:08.35 | msou| | I hope what I read is what I think it is right. can add them all once I open the macro window and add them in order |
| 07:12.26 | msou| | will not add anything special for the pet.. that I will control myself justthe attack buttons |
| 07:12.29 | Fisker- | gives Arrowmaster some soup |
| 07:14.23 | msou| | one thing I don't understand is players argue over a drop... why need or give back etc. personally I think you don't need a good gear until you hit lvl 70 or even 80 |
| 07:14.39 | msou| | maybe tanks do but I never cared for gear |
| 07:15.25 | msou| | on saturday two needed it and the other guy said "give it back or I will kick you" be happy you're getting a boost from me |
| 07:15.34 | msou| | was laughing at both |
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| 07:25.37 | msou| | Kazie: that minimap of yours look sweet |
| 07:25.43 | msou| | and date/mail etc |
| 07:25.50 | Kazie | On the v5 screenshot i use cleanminimap |
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| 07:27.12 | Kazie | The text is SLDT |
| 07:27.16 | Kazie | SLDataText |
| 07:28.26 | msou| | and that for bags, mail etc right |
| 07:28.41 | Kazie | Yes |
| 07:28.50 | Kazie | All the text around the mininmap is SLDataText |
| 07:29.07 | msou| | sweet |
| 07:30.05 | Kazie | Makes my life easier in general when playing wow |
| 07:30.13 | msou| | hehe I bet |
| 07:30.23 | msou| | is that omen in the middle of the screen |
| 07:30.40 | msou| | the two bars under your char |
| 07:30.53 | msou| | vanillasky and you on the left I think |
| 07:30.59 | Kazie | hmm.. are you looking at the V5 screenshot now? |
| 07:31.12 | msou| | yeah the V5 |
| 07:31.26 | Kazie | Niether omen or Recount is shown on that screenshot |
| 07:31.43 | msou| | the vanillasky in blue and nothing on the left |
| 07:31.48 | msou| | under your char |
| 07:31.56 | msou| | 15-20 |
| 07:32.29 | msou| | above your cast spells |
| 07:32.33 | Kazie | That's the range to my target |
| 07:32.37 | Kazie | I play a hunter for my alt |
| 07:32.44 | msou| | ah |
| 07:33.02 | Kazie | and with more than 75% of my spells hidden when not moused over then i need it :) |
| 07:33.16 | msou| | hehe |
| 07:33.17 | Kazie | Then i always no if i can charge, intercept or intervene i.e. |
| 07:33.24 | zenzio | argh! Trying to find some sort of help for simplexml_load_string errors on Google is futile. Thousands of results, all of which appear to be just websites that generated errors when Google was indexing them |
| 07:34.10 | Kazie | Zenzio: What did you expect when just searching for simplexml_lead_string errors .. it's not very specific |
| 07:34.24 | Trela | Magento? |
| 07:36.14 | zenzio | Kazie: I copied the error message it displayed :-p Works for most other functions |
| 07:37.05 | Kazie | zenzio: Try to specify it ^^ Google is a pretty advanced search engine and works accordingly :) |
| 07:38.26 | augustl | Kazie: can you link that screenshot again? |
| 07:38.33 | zenzio | Kazie: I'm not a newbie to Googling |
| 07:38.55 | Fisker- | oh yes you are zenzio |
| 07:38.59 | Kazie | http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/kzuiminiv5/kazieui_v5_mini.jpg |
| 07:39.21 | augustl | Armor: 67%. Neat! |
| 07:39.21 | Kazie | zenzio: I think you need a cookie |
| 07:39.48 | zenzio | Kazie: no, I just find it annoying when people assume that I don't know what I'm doing |
| 07:40.12 | Trela | I should make my interface better. |
| 07:40.15 | Kazie | zenzelezz: Who did that? i didn't. |
| 07:40.17 | zenzio | simplexml_load_string's problem is that it gives very little help to go by |
| 07:42.17 | Trela | http://www.experimentalinsanity.com/albums/wow/MihauUI1.jpg |
| 07:42.38 | Kazie | Trela: Is that yours? |
| 07:42.43 | Trela | Yes. |
| 07:43.11 | Kazie | Trela: hehe not much there :) And i keep mine minimalistic hehe.. however i won't comprimise the functionality :P |
| 07:43.33 | Trela | There are unit frames there, but since I am out of combat and at full health it automatically hides. |
| 07:43.38 | Trela | I use IceHUD. |
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| 07:44.49 | Kazie | ;) |
| 07:44.55 | Kazie | I thought about adding that to my own |
| 07:45.11 | Trela | The reality is I do not look at most of the stuff on my screen. |
| 07:47.05 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: I've got the snippet |
| 07:47.14 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: just testing out in Dalaran for the "remaining races" |
| 07:47.17 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 07:47.21 | Kazie | Trela: http://wow.kazie.dk/ui/kzuiminiv5/kazieui_v5_mini_raid.jpg <-- that's my UI in raids |
| 07:47.37 | Kazie | It's a bad screenshot really, since it's just Archavon10 |
| 07:48.00 | Trela | ...I need it clean like that. |
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| 07:48.34 | Kazie | There's not much more in a 25 man raid, exept for another 3 groups on Grid |
| 07:48.54 | Kazie | And then i tend to drag out raid dps window from recount.. in order to bitch at the dps if they slack ^^ |
| 07:49.43 | Trela | Before I discovered X-Perl. :O http://www.experimentalinsanity.com/albums/wow/raidunitframe.jpg |
| 07:50.01 | Kazie | Oh yea.. default UI ftl ^^ |
| 07:51.03 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: working fine so far, just need to wait for this damn cooldown >< |
| 07:51.09 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 07:51.26 | jnwhiteh | i finished my title last night |
| 07:51.33 | Kazie | Which title? |
| 07:51.35 | jnwhiteh | after levelign a death knight dwarf female to 58 so I could go to stormwind |
| 07:51.36 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 07:51.39 | jnwhiteh | the Noble |
| 07:51.59 | Fisker- | slacker |
| 07:52.04 | Kazie | Ahh yes.. finished that yesterday afternoon, finished it when we were prepping for raid on a female tauren in my raid :P |
| 07:54.22 | Trela | opened old WoW screen shot directory, starts crying. ;-; |
| 07:54.51 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: woohoo! |
| 07:54.55 | Wobin | It found me a female dwarf! |
| 07:55.07 | Wobin | I might make it say what race as well |
| 07:55.14 | Wobin | so we know to prioritise =P |
| 07:55.54 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 07:58.37 | zenzio | I had no problem finding female dwarves actually |
| 07:58.44 | zenzio | finding horde is a whole different matter on my realm |
| 07:58.52 | zenzio | may have to go do battlegrounds |
| 07:59.03 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: http://wowi.pastey.net/113147 |
| 08:01.19 | Wobin | Aaand, yay Snuupy the Noble =) |
| 08:01.52 | Trela | Seems I do not have a current raid screen shot any more. |
| 08:03.00 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: and that should fit fine localized |
| 08:03.07 | Wobin | well, aside from the message |
| 08:03.51 | jnwhiteh | yeah heh |
| 08:04.17 | Wobin | oh wait, you might want to set StatusInitialized to true in the if statement that calls it |
| 08:05.01 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 08:05.16 | jnwhiteh | http://wowi.pastey.net/113151 is what I have |
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| 08:05.44 | Wobin | perfect |
| 08:06.17 | Wobin | although that's in twice? |
| 08:06.32 | Wobin | or you pasted over the wrong section? =) |
| 08:06.54 | Trela | I suppose a light weight raid/party frame would be a good replacement for me instead of using X-Perl all the time. I really do not heal any more. |
| 08:07.19 | Wobin | any of the ouf ones work fine |
| 08:07.26 | Trela | I have horrible time right as Zeksie joins. :P |
| 08:07.29 | Trela | *timing |
| 08:07.34 | Zeksie | heh |
| 08:07.44 | Wobin | or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4673-PerfectRaid.html |
| 08:07.57 | Zeksie | well.. now you mention it, X-Perl doesn't have a large footprint :) |
| 08:08.32 | Trela | X-Perl is my perfect healer setup. All I need as damage are little status indicators. >.>;; Are they debuff? What would I care? I can not cure it! :O |
| 08:08.46 | Zeksie | heh |
| 08:08.47 | Trela | *debuffed |
| 08:09.11 | Trela | I had to stop playing healers since it kills my hands. :x All the mouse moving and clicking. |
| 08:09.37 | Wobin | time to dps! |
| 08:10.13 | Trela | Healing makes me horny. <.< >.> "OMG YEAH I SAVED YOUR ASS! Lets screw." <Tanks> *Looking at the priest funny.* |
| 08:17.00 | Wobin | oh btw jnwhiteh You might want to add a check to see if they're wielding the flowers |
| 08:17.07 | Wobin | if not, don't run any of the scans |
| 08:17.12 | jnwhiteh | meh |
| 08:17.14 | jnwhiteh | hand-holding :P |
| 08:17.23 | Wobin | (or add in some way to turn it off) =P |
| 08:17.30 | airtonix | why does perfect raid take up so much space? |
| 08:18.58 | jnwhiteh | because? |
| 08:19.12 | haste | because it shows the full name of the player and has a good overview of debuffs and buffs on the unit |
| 08:19.17 | jnwhiteh | its not meant to be a compact set of unit frames |
| 08:19.21 | jnwhiteh | its meant to be precisely what i is :P |
| 08:19.32 | haste | and it does a great job at being itself! |
| 08:19.56 | haste | it's my raid frame of choice at least :3 |
| 08:20.40 | jnwhiteh | I use it sometimes |
| 08:20.45 | jnwhiteh | still like it for healing 5-25 mans |
| 08:20.53 | Trela | Can Perfect Raid display the player names on the health bars? <.< I know PitBull can, but I hate touching PitBull's configuration. |
| 08:21.01 | jnwhiteh | you can edit the Lua to do so, yes. |
| 08:21.06 | jnwhiteh | and eventually change the layout |
| 08:21.08 | jnwhiteh | but that's a bit off. |
| 08:21.10 | Trela | Oh, I see. :D |
| 08:21.16 | jnwhiteh | but its a simple change |
| 08:21.23 | jnwhiteh | and I've detailed it in the forum post regarding this |
| 08:22.41 | alama | man, i wish GetGameTime() returned seconds instead of just hour and minute |
| 08:23.02 | jnwhiteh | os.time() |
| 08:23.08 | jnwhiteh | GetTime() |
| 08:23.08 | alama | there's a workaround on wowiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/GameTime:Get |
| 08:23.57 | alama | jnwhiteh: i need to know the server time |
| 08:24.06 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 08:24.11 | jnwhiteh | well you'll only ever get an estimate =) |
| 08:24.16 | alama | i suppose i could calculate that based on the current timezone and daylight savings time rules |
| 08:24.33 | jnwhiteh | then you have to rely on the client having their time set correctly |
| 08:24.36 | jnwhiteh | which is not good =) |
| 08:24.43 | alama | heh |
| 08:24.44 | alama | gp |
| 08:25.08 | Trela | installs PitBull4 to see if it will be any better... |
| 08:25.14 | Trela | uninstalls. <.<; |
| 08:27.06 | Xinhuan | jnwhiteh, are you informed of the -10000 to 10000 range clamp for :SetTexCoord() ? |
| 08:27.24 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 08:27.37 | Xinhuan | in patch 3.0, blizz apparently added that range of valid values |
| 08:28.03 | Xinhuan | so any argument not in [-10000, 10000] will cause a TexCoord our of range error |
| 08:28.07 | Xinhuan | out* |
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| 08:28.36 | jnwhiteh | probably has something to do with a limitation on their end, not sure |
| 08:28.40 | jnwhiteh | is it causing issues? |
| 08:28.53 | jnwhiteh | with your drawing lines? |
| 08:29.11 | Xinhuan | well we have to add range clamps to all our arguments to send in, that's about it |
| 08:29.25 | jnwhiteh | but functionally there is no change? |
| 08:29.32 | Xinhuan | if TLx > 10000 then TLx = 10000 elseif TLx < -10000 then TLx = -10000 end |
| 08:29.35 | Xinhuan | for all 8 arguments |
| 08:29.38 | Xinhuan | yeah no other change |
| 08:29.39 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 08:29.46 | jnwhiteh | yeah, hadn't heard about that |
| 08:29.59 | Xinhuan | it'll be useful for you to add to your site/book, whatever ^^ |
| 08:30.04 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 08:31.04 | jnwhiteh | made a note, thanks. |
| 08:31.55 | Xinhuan | this affects iriel's line drawing code |
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| 09:09.54 | Grum | Xinhuan: would have been nice if blizzard would report these changes ;( |
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| 09:17.25 | Arrowmaster | im bored, you know what that means right? |
| 09:18.12 | Arrowmaster | gona do some memory dumping |
| 09:26.35 | Industrial | dual specs to surv |
| 09:29.28 | Wobin | sv is fun |
| 09:30.16 | Arrowmaster | so yeah the list of non open source addons that wowmatrix is hosting is about less than 10 |
| 09:30.28 | Arrowmaster | still |
| 09:31.48 | tekkub | "about"? |
| 09:31.53 | tekkub | it either is or isn't |
| 09:32.06 | Arrowmaster | look its a long list of open source addons |
| 09:32.16 | alama | is Screenshot() run asynchronously? |
| 09:32.20 | Arrowmaster | and very very few with 'author approved' on them |
| 09:32.28 | Arrowmaster | you want me to actually count? |
| 09:32.56 | alama | i'm trying to hide the ui before taking a screenshot and the restore it afterward, but the screenshots generated this way all have the ui in them |
| 09:33.23 | Arrowmaster | tekkub: oh and fyi |
| 09:33.24 | Arrowmaster | if the environment = "development" then put tSupportedSitesPublic & space & "tekkub" into gSupportedSites |
| 09:33.38 | Arrowmaster | they be watching for when you remove your fake versions |
| 09:34.00 | alama | it seems that the scren image captured by Screenshot() is the one *after* the ui is retored |
| 09:36.24 | tekkub | oh really? |
| 09:36.39 | Grum | alama: or before :D |
| 09:36.54 | alama | Grum: that's possible, too |
| 09:37.26 | alama | the ui doesn't quite get hidden (somehow...) before Screenshot() is called |
| 09:37.55 | Grum | try creating a new frame just before you call Screenshot() |
| 09:38.11 | Grum | see if it is in the screenshto and you shall know what it screenshots :) |
| 09:38.23 | alama | how can i create a new frame? |
| 09:38.24 | Arrowmaster | autograts, BunnyQuestLevel, DoTimer, GatherSage2, GroupCalendar (?), KillersSoftware, Outfitter (?), PaladinWarnings, Pawn (only german version), SpamEraser, TitanGatherer, TitanMobMap, TitanMount, TitanNotesUNeed, TitanRecipeBook |
| 09:38.55 | Grum | i think you have to be 'in the next OnUpdate' so the screen/framebuffer has been redrawn |
| 09:39.25 | Arrowmaster | theres the list of addons they are hosting without opensource licenses, groupcalendar and outfitter have comments saying 'author contacted us before' instead of 'author approved' though so i dont know what exactly that means |
| 09:39.44 | alama | would it suffice to just have a message(...) just before the screenshot? |
| 09:39.59 | Arrowmaster | and tekkub isnt even here |
| 09:40.42 | Arrowmaster | so yeah 15 addons is perty lol |
| 09:41.06 | alama | i did a message(...) immediately before screenshot() |
| 09:41.13 | alama | and it shows up on the screenshot |
| 09:42.10 | alama | oh, intesting: i exchanged message(...) and screenshot(), and the message *still* appears in the generated jpg |
| 09:42.34 | alama | so it seems that the call to screenshot() succeeds *before* the image is generated |
| 09:43.05 | alama | because the message frame gets put up on the screen, then the screen is captured -- even though, in the program, those are intended to occur in the opposite order |
| 09:43.55 | alama | i guess i'll have to build in some kind of delay |
| 09:44.25 | alama | is there a principled way to do this? |
| 09:44.48 | Arrowmaster | OnUpdate |
| 09:45.25 | alama | Arrowmaster: can you say more? |
| 09:46.24 | Fisker- | http://i40.tinypic.com/im5pwn.jpg <-mounted combat is here! |
| 09:47.08 | Arrowmaster | seen better |
| 09:47.26 | Arrowmaster | i have a screenshot of a shaman in ghostwolf flying around on a windrider |
| 09:47.32 | Fisker- | :O |
| 09:47.41 | Arrowmaster | in the middle of thunderbluff |
| 09:47.47 | Fisker- | pretty funbug though |
| 09:47.50 | Fisker- | fun bug* |
| 09:47.59 | Fisker- | he's not actually mounted though |
| 09:48.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah the shaman said he wasnt on a windrider though, it was just a graphical glitch and not the old free windrider bug |
| 09:48.35 | Arrowmaster | only i saw it |
| 09:51.43 | alama | mounted combat against target dummies doesn't seem so interesting |
| 09:52.03 | Wobin | hm, I like this cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7JiMJUNWwg |
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| 10:03.07 | Fisker- | damn you Wobin |
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| 10:10.43 | foxlit | http://www.curse.com/content/TermsofUse.aspx teehee |
| 10:10.52 | foxlit | Sure, I'll agree to *that* |
| 10:11.01 | Wobin | blank? =P |
| 10:11.09 | jaxdahl | noscript? |
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| 10:12.41 | jaxdahl | how many unique polymorphs can a mage have at the same time? 5? sheep/penguin, turtle, rabbit, black cat, pig? |
| 10:12.43 | nevcairiel | its blank with scripts too |
| 10:22.12 | Legorol | mikma: ping |
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| 12:37.29 | foxlit | http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-34640480252896_2051_439836 << cute |
| 12:37.45 | foxlit | (wonder why PA images are stored at who-knows-where) |
| 12:40.32 | amro | foxlit: the latest comic is made of win |
| 12:42.21 | foxlit | It's an awesome concept, but I'm not so sure about the execution. |
| 12:42.49 | amro | I'm still chuckling over "freemium" |
| 12:43.11 | foxlit | ah, so not http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ ? |
| 12:43.24 | foxlit | ("Further Education") |
| 12:45.29 | amro | no, their updating fails :/ |
| 12:45.44 | foxlit | I also wish their RSS didn't suck. |
| 12:53.21 | Wobin | ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8B4_fGopzw |
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| 12:56.05 | foxlit | Wobin: I think it's time to delay SHARKS WITH LASERS to combat this penguin threat. |
| 12:56.13 | foxlit | s/delay/deploy/ |
| 12:56.25 | Wobin | foxlit: ooh, one sec |
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| 13:00.59 | ReAn[Laptop] | so whaz new in wow dev land today? |
| 13:01.33 | Mr_Rabies | bears with corncob pipes |
| 13:02.29 | ReAn[Laptop] | neat :D |
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| 13:18.27 | Wobin | damn foxlit left =( |
| 13:18.28 | Wobin | http://www.heavy.com/video/67007 |
| 13:19.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | man, my mod made most of it's original popularity on wowi, but right now i have so little user-base prenetration from wowi compared to curse |
| 13:19.20 | Fisker- | ooh a piece of candy |
| 13:19.34 | ReAn[Laptop] | since the 23, 12k downloads from curse, and only about 1k from wowi :/ |
| 13:19.51 | ReAn[Laptop] | er, since the 23rd |
| 13:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | Curse has a huge name since WoWMatrix was blocked. You're getting PR through the fiasco. |
| 13:20.02 | theorbtwo | uses curse, but not wowi. |
| 13:20.08 | ReAn[Laptop] | nah |
| 13:20.13 | ReAn[Laptop] | even before all that |
| 13:20.36 | theorbtwo | I heard about QuestHelper from a friend who used to play wow, googled it, and ended up on curse. |
| 13:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | uses WoWI, but extremely rarely does she visit Curse. |
| 13:21.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | To date, 101,000 downloads on wowi, and nearly 200,000 downloads on curse, and it's been on wowi much longer >_> |
| 13:21.01 | theorbtwo | I've yet to have a reason to try wowi. |
| 13:21.42 | Lopeppeppy | Was a time I wouldn't touch Curse with a 10 foot pole. I still prefer WoWInterface hands down, but I'm more comfortable with Curse in recent months. |
| 13:21.50 | Fisker- | ooh a piece of fail Wobin |
| 13:21.51 | Fisker- | :E |
| 13:22.00 | ReAn[Laptop] | i like wowi, but frankly curse gives me more tools as a developer so im prettymuch using thier services more, but i like the wowi website better than curse |
| 13:22.02 | Wobin | Fisker-: Isn't it? |
| 13:22.10 | ReAn[Laptop] | curseforge is nice, but curse main page is full of bugs >_< |
| 13:22.18 | Fisker- | i thought it was boring |
| 13:22.19 | Wobin | I like curseforge |
| 13:22.21 | Fisker- | also who is qualcomm? |
| 13:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, see, I'm not a dev, so I prefer WoWI. I'm sure that giving feedback to the WoWI people would help them improve. |
| 13:22.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | im just a bit sad because of the low penetration im getting on wowi :/ |
| 13:22.44 | airtonix | neither of them provide git so im not impressed |
| 13:22.52 | airtonix | (yet) |
| 13:22.58 | ReAn[Laptop] | airtonix, curseforge provides git |
| 13:23.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | you nitwit |
| 13:23.10 | ReAn[Laptop] | and wowace |
| 13:23.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | which essentially is curseforge |
| 13:23.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | git://git.curseforge.net/wow/runewatch/mainline.git <--- my mod's repo |
| 13:23.53 | airtonix | cant use my browser for anything else other than watch it load a curse page when it does so |
| 13:24.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | dosen't really use curse.com much, i stick to wowace.com / curseforge.com / curse-client |
| 13:24.44 | ReAn[Laptop] | cuz the design is more lightweight |
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| 13:28.19 | Lurks` | hi everyone.. any one mind answering some noobish questions for me? |
| 13:28.40 | Lopeppeppy | ~asktoask |
| 13:28.40 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 13:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | :) Just ask your questions, if anyone can help, we will. |
| 13:28.54 | Lurks` | heh |
| 13:28.56 | krka | I WONT! |
| 13:29.04 | Fisker- | Lopeppeppy do you mind answering a question for me? |
| 13:29.09 | Lopeppeppy | Then you can have a time out, Mister krka. |
| 13:29.14 | krka | aww |
| 13:29.18 | Jamash | "they'll be glad to help" -> or verbally abuse you and give you an internet wedgie |
| 13:29.19 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker-, the answer is rotini. There you go. |
| 13:29.40 | Fisker- | rotini is awesome |
| 13:29.45 | Jamash | Lopeppeppy, how do you pronounce your nick? |
| 13:29.50 | Fisker- | but it's not an answer ;_; |
| 13:29.51 | Lopeppeppy | With a little bit of garlic and olive oil, omg awesome. |
| 13:30.05 | Lopeppeppy | Jamash, Low-p-PEP-y |
| 13:30.18 | Jamash | interesting |
| 13:30.28 | Fisker- | Jamash; "Yo dawg we herd you liek p's so we put some p's in your nick so you can pronounce p's while pronouncing them" |
| 13:30.30 | Fisker- | i think |
| 13:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | Lurks, ignore 'em and just give us your question, I promise I'll ignore 'em if I can help you. |
| 13:30.48 | Lurks` | so.. other than AddOn Studio for WoW, are there anything other decent toolkits around? I want to make some changes to an addon to customise for my guild, but not really looking forward to having to do a heap of /reloadui to test it every time |
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| 13:31.04 | Lurks` | there must be a better way? |
| 13:31.35 | Jamash | I like WoWLua, you can write a function, execute it, then change it a bit and re-execute it without having to reload everything |
| 13:31.59 | Etanol | that's neat |
| 13:32.07 | Etanol | anybody here running linux? |
| 13:32.16 | Lurks` | not me |
| 13:32.43 | ReAn[Laptop] | Etanol, i run linux in a Virtual Machine on two boxes, and one macine is loaded natively but i can't find a use for it atm |
| 13:32.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | other than taking up space and power |
| 13:32.49 | ReAn[Laptop] | lol |
| 13:32.53 | Jamash | I run linux but I don't run wow on linux very often |
| 13:33.08 | ReAn[Laptop] | but mainly i use nix for web development |
| 13:33.14 | Etanol | I'm considering converting from windows ^^ seems like so much more fun with linux |
| 13:33.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | and i host my personal gitosis at home on linux |
| 13:33.26 | Etanol | And I think wined wow works quite well`? |
| 13:33.33 | ReAn[Laptop] | Etanol, be prepared for many hours of tweaking |
| 13:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Etanol... um... reports vary on that. |
| 13:33.50 | Lurks` | hmm.. so wowlua basically allows you to do your dev and then testing all from within wow itself? |
| 13:33.51 | Etanol | :/ |
| 13:33.52 | Lopeppeppy | It runs, but as ReAn[Laptop] says... it requires dedicated work. |
| 13:34.00 | Lopeppeppy | *ix is not supported for WoW. |
| 13:34.00 | jnwhiteh | not really.. no |
| 13:34.04 | jnwhiteh | its a lua interpreter |
| 13:34.04 | ReAn[Laptop] | linux is one of those things that once you get running the way you want; it's wonderfull... however getting it there is some work usually |
| 13:34.07 | jnwhiteh | and you can test quite a bit that way |
| 13:34.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | especially if you dont know what you're doing in nix |
| 13:34.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | download time aside, it usually takes me about 1-2 hours to get a basic server working the way i want |
| 13:34.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | a desktop environment takes more |
| 13:35.03 | Lopeppeppy | And you will be re-configuring every time there's a WoW patch, from what I hear in this channel every patch day. |
| 13:35.08 | ReAn[Laptop] | main issue is with so much FOSS the dependency walking is a bitch |
| 13:35.13 | Lurks` | wowbench sounded promising... until i realised it hasn't had a new version since 2006 :| |
| 13:35.21 | Etanol | nix? |
| 13:35.28 | ReAn[Laptop] | Lopeppeppy, I never had any real issues running wow under nix |
| 13:35.38 | jnwhiteh | Lurks`: addon development this way is not that difficult |
| 13:35.39 | ReAn[Laptop] | it runs pretty good under Cedega or Wine |
| 13:35.49 | Etanol | aha |
| 13:35.54 | jnwhiteh | and the fact of the matter is, being in game is real.. anything else isnt'. |
| 13:36.13 | Lurks` | yeah |
| 13:36.18 | Etanol | jnwhiteh: true that |
| 13:36.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | Etanol, nix is an abbreiviation, or rather *nix, it means Linux / Unix or any other similar environments |
| 13:36.35 | Jamash | I use wowlua to do rapid prototyping and then cut-n-paste into my text editor when I have something workable |
| 13:36.46 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 13:36.50 | jnwhiteh | bits and pieces |
| 13:36.53 | jnwhiteh | then turn it into an addon |
| 13:36.56 | Lurks` | i've just never written any lua before, so im expecting a lot of syntax errors and all that kinda stupid stuff |
| 13:37.02 | ReAn[Laptop] | to anyone who's mainly a linux user that would encompass BSD variants too, however to a BSD fanatic he'd prolly chop your balls off for even hinting that BSD is anything like linux |
| 13:37.02 | Etanol | ReAn[Laptop]: did you compile your own kernel or similar? or did you just install a distro? |
| 13:37.10 | Lurks` | so trying to find the easiest and quickest way to develop and test |
| 13:37.14 | ReAn[Laptop] | cuz hardcore BSD people are elitist pricks usually |
| 13:37.15 | jnwhiteh | Lurks`: then work in bits, in wowlua as is being suggested |
| 13:37.24 | Lurks` | yeah.. will give it a go |
| 13:37.37 | ReAn[Laptop] | Etanol, only massochists and enthusists compile thier own kernel |
| 13:37.44 | Etanol | ^^ |
| 13:37.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | i've compiled my kernel twice before |
| 13:37.53 | ReAn[Laptop] | but that was overtop of an existing distro |
| 13:37.54 | Lurks` | trying to change the way the SKG addon works a little |
| 13:37.59 | ReAn[Laptop] | i.e. i was updating my kernel |
| 13:38.05 | sacarasc | I used to compile my own kernels all the time, but I got lazy. |
| 13:38.11 | Jamash | compiling your own kernel isn't that hard, really |
| 13:38.16 | aesir | Xinhuan: FYI, GatherHud on Curse Client suddenly shows 1.1.4 as being updated. But it's not. And updating or reinstalling it doesn't make the update notice go away anyway. Possibly a CC thing, but so far it's only GatherHUD I see this with, so FYI. |
| 13:38.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | frankly spending 2 hours watching a wall of text isn't my idea of fun |
| 13:38.38 | Etanol | The thing is, I see no real downside with linux except the fact that I won't be able to use photoshop... |
| 13:38.45 | Jamash | as long as you don't do something stupid like compile your hard disk driver as a module |
| 13:38.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | aesir, it's possible you're having a stable/beta/alpha release issue |
| 13:38.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | there may be a newer beta out than the stable release you have |
| 13:39.11 | ReAn[Laptop] | thus it never updates because your client is set to load stable only? |
| 13:39.24 | aesir | My client is set to alpha. |
| 13:39.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | hrm |
| 13:39.33 | ReAn[Laptop] | let me take a look |
| 13:39.38 | ReAn[Laptop] | *loads his client* |
| 13:39.40 | aesir | I didn't see anything new on the gatherhud wowace page. |
| 13:40.03 | sacarasc | Etanol: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6584 |
| 13:40.04 | Etanol | ReAn[Laptop]: can you run any version of photoshop on linux? Ever tried? |
| 13:40.14 | aesir | version #s are the same on the CC Installed and Latest columns. And... it only started today. 1.1.4 has been out a week or so. |
| 13:40.15 | Lopeppeppy | If not Photoshop, does GIMP run on *ix? |
| 13:40.24 | Jamash | GIMP is from *ix originally |
| 13:40.26 | Jamash | so yes |
| 13:40.26 | jaxdahl | ^ |
| 13:40.29 | ReAn[Laptop] | Etanol, with some work, you can usually get most windows apps running under wine and the like |
| 13:40.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | not all |
| 13:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | There ya go. |
| 13:40.32 | ReAn[Laptop] | but most |
| 13:41.36 | airtonix | ReAn[Laptop], does the curse packager do the git too |
| 13:41.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | yes |
| 13:41.52 | airtonix | cool |
| 13:41.53 | Etanol | PS CS2 seems to work quite good on wine |
| 13:42.08 | ReAn[Laptop] | airtonix, git has prettymuch the same level of support as the svn repos |
| 13:43.06 | ReAn[Laptop] | git is wicked, and works like a charm on cf/ace |
| 13:43.20 | ReAn[Laptop] | RSA controlled to boot |
| 13:43.23 | airtonix | yeah i much prefer it to using svn...horrid thing that is |
| 13:43.36 | ReAn[Laptop] | svn isn't bad, but git is just better |
| 13:43.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | svn has it's advantages over git |
| 13:43.49 | ReAn[Laptop] | not many |
| 13:43.59 | ReAn[Laptop] | but depending on your uses you may decide to use svn over git |
| 13:44.19 | ReAn[Laptop] | i however, will likely use git even if svn is more practical :p |
| 13:44.53 | airtonix | its a psychological choice to use dbm over bigwigs? |
| 13:45.10 | airtonix | as in, dbm product box looks shinier? |
| 13:45.20 | Lopeppeppy | A bit, yes. |
| 13:45.20 | airtonix | sounds 'deadly' ? |
| 13:45.34 | Jamash | I use dbm but I honestly don't know the difference between the two |
| 13:45.43 | airtonix | i can tell you two |
| 13:45.51 | Lopeppeppy | They're extremely similar, I've never found much functional difference for myself. |
| 13:46.06 | airtonix | 1. no need to manually setup range |
| 13:46.06 | ReAn[Laptop] | i use DBM because it was the first one that someone mentioned when i started raiding again, and went "Right... i need an encounter mod" |
| 13:46.19 | sacarasc | BigWigs looks better, imo. |
| 13:46.22 | nevcairiel | dbm is more about stupid warnings for everything, if you ask me :P |
| 13:46.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | i also use DBM because it has BGs support |
| 13:46.32 | airtonix | 2. your bars are divided into two timeframes, sometime soon, and RIGHTOMG NOW |
| 13:46.34 | nevcairiel | way too much annoying sounds adn warnigns |
| 13:46.52 | jaxdahl | thankfully you can uncheck the warnings you don't care about |
| 13:46.54 | ReAn[Laptop] | "Run away little girl..... run away...." |
| 13:46.54 | Jamash | ReAn[Laptop]: BG support is one of the reasons I picked it up |
| 13:47.09 | Jamash | Yeah I turned that crap off for OS |
| 13:47.12 | airtonix | i hate pvp so that wasnt somthing for me to consider |
| 13:48.23 | airtonix | oh yeah, the new voa boss. the mobs that recieve the debuff... |
| 13:48.29 | ReAn[Laptop] | aesir, my CC installed 1.1.4 properly the first time, which is (after checking) the most recent file released |
| 13:48.38 | airtonix | does dbm mark those up with skull or some icon like bigwigs does? |
| 13:49.07 | ReAn[Laptop] | airtonix, that's the thing, it's a progressive thing, eventually both mods will do prettymuch all of what either does |
| 13:49.26 | aesir | ReAn : Try a "Refresh" and see if 1.1.4 shows up as an update please. |
| 13:49.34 | airtonix | ReAn[Laptop], but dbm still doesnt provide the emphasis bar setup |
| 13:49.43 | Jamash | emphasis bar? |
| 13:49.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | typically i've found DBM's bar timers to be more accurate, but the notifications are usually too late on some things |
| 13:50.11 | ReAn[Laptop] | the dual-bar? |
| 13:50.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | i.e. URGENT TIMERS vs timers 5+ mins away? |
| 13:50.38 | airtonix | yes |
| 13:50.44 | ReAn[Laptop] | yes it does |
| 13:50.45 | airtonix | different position and style |
| 13:50.49 | ReAn[Laptop] | i just dosen''t animate them |
| 13:50.55 | ReAn[Laptop] | moving from one to the other |
| 13:50.57 | airtonix | not since i check last |
| 13:51.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | dude |
| 13:51.11 | ReAn[Laptop] | it's been doing that since i started raiding naxx again |
| 13:51.14 | ReAn[Laptop] | so 2-3 months ago |
| 13:51.20 | ReAn[Laptop] | at LEAST |
| 13:51.23 | Jamash | DBM has timers over on the side of the screen and timers UP IN YOUR FACE |
| 13:51.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | im fairly certain it's been doing it for a long time |
| 13:51.34 | ReAn[Laptop] | yep |
| 13:52.00 | airtonix | pretty sure i tried it out during a naxx run and i could only get it to show one set of bars |
| 13:52.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | aesir, refreshed, just sais "GatherHud was recently updated, Latest: 1.1.4, Local: 1.1.4 |
| 13:52.02 | ReAn[Laptop] | " |
| 13:52.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | airtonix, i know for a fact it's been doing it for a long time |
| 13:52.30 | aesir | I've had 1.1.4 for a week. It's now just permanently wanting to be updated to... 1.1.4. I give up. |
| 13:52.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | set your threshold for that mod to release |
| 13:52.53 | airtonix | so is dbm more deadly? |
| 13:52.55 | ReAn[Laptop] | and then refresh |
| 13:52.57 | ReAn[Laptop] | see what happens |
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| 13:53.08 | Jamash | so is bigwigs bigger? |
| 13:53.16 | airtonix | these are good questions |
| 13:53.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | airtonix, like i said, they both are good, it comes down to preference |
| 13:53.25 | aesir | ReAn: It no longer shows as update available. |
| 13:53.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | but for the most part, they each have a pretty similar feature set |
| 13:53.55 | ReAn[Laptop] | k, that's probably an issue / logic error in the alpha system |
| 13:54.06 | airtonix | why do you have to manually turn on range indicator with dbm? |
| 13:54.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | airtonix, some bosses, some bosses it's on by default |
| 13:54.33 | ReAn[Laptop] | i now mine shows up at 10y on KT automagically |
| 13:54.36 | ReAn[Laptop] | know* |
| 13:54.43 | airtonix | but not 25? |
| 13:54.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | er |
| 13:54.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | 10y (yards) |
| 13:54.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | not 10man |
| 13:55.05 | ReAn[Laptop] | it shows up in 10/25 man |
| 13:55.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | but some bosses in ulduar it dosent when it probably should |
| 13:55.20 | airtonix | because every single raid i go to where there is a range based friendly damage, the raid leader tells everyone to type /range |
| 13:55.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | *shrug* |
| 13:55.49 | ReAn[Laptop] | i think you have to set up the distance, but range-based fights it opens auto |
| 13:55.56 | airtonix | it feels deadly |
| 13:56.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | so the /range part is just to tell it how far |
| 13:56.32 | ReAn[Laptop] | im a tank and pseudo-raid-leader, so frankly it's something that i pay attention to |
| 13:56.42 | ReAn[Laptop] | dbm is pretty good |
| 13:56.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | i just tell my raiders to make sure thier range indicator is up and correct |
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| 13:57.02 | ReAn[Laptop] | it may be up auto for them or not |
| 13:57.21 | ReAn[Laptop] | i just ask them to make a consious effort to make sure it is based on what mod/version they use |
| 13:57.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | aesir, still lurking? |
| 13:58.06 | aesir | Yes |
| 13:58.12 | ReAn[Laptop] | do me a favour |
| 13:58.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | er, let me load my other branch first |
| 13:59.09 | aesir | I changed prefs in CC and it just reinstalled all release embedded versions for everything (bad). Let me reset my settings and reinstall stuff. |
| 14:01.40 | aesir | ReAn: sorry, yes, fire away when ready |
| 14:04.28 | ReAn[Laptop] | sorry, i was pushing a change to my repo |
| 14:04.39 | ReAn[Laptop] | download "RuneWatch" and set it's threshold to "Alpha" |
| 14:04.47 | ReAn[Laptop] | let me know what it sais about updates |
| 14:05.19 | ReAn[Laptop] | I don't know why people are scared of embedded libs |
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| 14:05.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | LibStub basically makes embedded libs a problem of the past |
| 14:06.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | let me know if it has the same bug when set to alpha mode |
| 14:07.28 | aesir | ReAn: RuneWatch (WotLK) doesn't show as needing an update set to alpha |
| 14:07.35 | ReAn[Laptop] | k, one sec |
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| 14:08.19 | aesir | LibStub isn't magic sauce. AddOn authors have made mistakes and you end up with (e.g., two versions of astrolabe borking 5 addons). And LibStub does nothing to improve load times - but this is all deadhorse material. |
| 14:08.21 | ReAn[Laptop] | do a refresh now |
| 14:08.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | aesir, actually yes it does |
| 14:09.09 | ReAn[Laptop] | load times are improved by libstub, if a higher version of the lib is loaded already it returns nil and the lib just exits |
| 14:09.15 | ReAn[Laptop] | or rather, the older version |
| 14:09.25 | ReAn[Laptop] | ofcourse, worst case is that the oldest version is loaded first |
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| 14:09.34 | ReAn[Laptop] | and progresively replaced until it meets the newest version |
| 14:09.57 | ReAn[Laptop] | however with sites like cf/wowace, each time a mod is packaged it usually is packaged with the latest version (or tagged version) of a lib |
| 14:10.13 | mikma | legorol: pong |
| 14:10.22 | aesir | With default options for CC set to install alphas, GatherHud shows needing an update (1.1.4), RuneWatch isn't shown needing an update (1.2.8-nolib) |
| 14:10.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | hrm |
| 14:10.58 | ReAn[Laptop] | k, well i tossed a couple null commits on my dev branch of runewatch |
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| 14:11.14 | ReAn[Laptop] | which should have flagged it for an alpha package, however the packager dosen't package branches |
| 14:11.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | so that's what i thought was happening with gather hud |
| 14:11.32 | ReAn[Laptop] | i.e. the mod was flagged as updated but no new files were generated |
| 14:11.36 | ReAn[Laptop] | im out of ideas |
| 14:11.43 | ReAn[Laptop] | submit a bug report to the Curse Client |
| 14:12.10 | aesir | I will. I don't know how far anyone will take it, as it appears to be specific to me and that one addon. |
| 14:12.24 | ReAn[Laptop] | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client/create-ticket/ |
| 14:12.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | no, Kaelten will probably have one of the programmers look into it |
| 14:12.47 | aesir | Well, my work here is done: "Weâre sorry, youâve attempted to access a page that youâre not allowed to access. |
| 14:12.47 | aesir | If you find this message to be in error please notify the administrators." |
| 14:12.49 | ReAn[Laptop] | it seems like a small bug somewhere in the api |
| 14:13.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | hrm |
| 14:13.19 | aesir | Yes, I'm logged in to curseforge. But that's ok. I"ll sort it out later. |
| 14:13.42 | ReAn[Laptop] | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client/ <--- go there click Tickets -> Post a Ticket ?? |
| 14:14.14 | ReAn[Laptop] | ah, that's why |
| 14:14.17 | aesir | No option to post tickets, at least not that I can find. |
| 14:14.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | discontinued project page |
| 14:14.21 | aesir | That's the old client |
| 14:14.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | one sec |
| 14:14.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-new/ |
| 14:14.42 | aesir | that works. |
| 14:19.25 | ReAn[Laptop] | :D |
| 14:19.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | well anyway, i best get to studying |
| 14:20.47 | aesir | Yup, thanks. I opened a ticket. I'm off to play. Have fun |
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| 14:33.24 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
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| 14:33.34 | jnwhiteh | where should i shove temporary files, file system or database |
| 14:33.36 | jnwhiteh | ponders |
| 14:33.57 | zenzelezz | ramdisk |
| 14:34.56 | theorbtwo | Temporary sounds like filesystem to me, or better, why a file at all? |
| 14:35.33 | krka | punch cards! |
| 14:35.33 | jnwhiteh | because of the way web browsers work :P |
| 14:35.53 | krka | or "please insert an unformatted 1.44 floppy" |
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| 14:36.03 | Lopeppeppy | 5.5 unformatted floppy! |
| 14:36.57 | ReAn[Laptop] | jnwhiteh, just use the default temp location |
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| 14:37.11 | krka | /tmp is good i suppose |
| 14:37.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | on nix use /tmp |
| 14:37.34 | ReAn[Laptop] | on windows use %TEMP%\ |
| 14:37.36 | jnwhiteh | I know what I can use on the fs :P |
| 14:37.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | then you let the OS handle it\ |
| 14:37.52 | jnwhiteh | its just deciding between the two |
| 14:37.56 | jnwhiteh | yes, but i control the OS :P |
| 14:38.05 | ReAn[Laptop] | hrm? |
| 14:38.06 | jnwhiteh | and my /tmp isn't cleaned very often |
| 14:38.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | k, well im just saying... |
| 14:38.22 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 14:38.29 | ReAn[Laptop] | there's a temporary storage mechanism built in to most OS'es |
| 14:38.33 | ReAn[Laptop] | why not take advantage of it? |
| 14:38.51 | ReAn[Laptop] | my %TEMP% isn't cleaned often either |
| 14:38.54 | ReAn[Laptop] | but it's one click away |
| 14:38.55 | jnwhiteh | because I need to serve files from the temporary location |
| 14:38.59 | jnwhiteh | which is a bad idea |
| 14:39.07 | jnwhiteh | considering anyone else can just dump stuff there |
| 14:39.07 | ReAn[Laptop] | that is unwise |
| 14:39.12 | krka | please elaborate on your problem |
| 14:39.13 | jnwhiteh | hence why I don't want to use it =) |
| 14:39.17 | jnwhiteh | there isn't a problem really |
| 14:39.17 | zenzelezz | what are you doing that needs temporary storage? |
| 14:39.17 | ReAn[Laptop] | well |
| 14:39.19 | jnwhiteh | i'm just musing |
| 14:39.23 | jnwhiteh | feel free to ignore me |
| 14:39.26 | krka | or it's like asking "what bear is best?" |
| 14:39.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | there's something tho... why are you serving files if they're temporary? |
| 14:39.31 | jnwhiteh | I need to convert an uploaded BLP to PN |
| 14:39.32 | jnwhiteh | PNG |
| 14:39.38 | jnwhiteh | this involved converting it and serving the file back |
| 14:39.43 | jnwhiteh | however, I need it to persist for a period of time |
| 14:39.50 | krka | right, so temporary on the web server |
| 14:39.57 | jnwhiteh | because File -> save as and image -> save as very often re-request the image |
| 14:40.00 | jnwhiteh | which is stupid |
| 14:40.20 | krka | set up a specific directory on the web server for images |
| 14:40.21 | ReAn[Laptop] | jnwhiteh, you could always maintain an open file pointer |
| 14:40.23 | [Ammo] | just use your own temp folder with a cron cleanup script |
| 14:40.27 | krka | and clean up old stuff with cron |
| 14:40.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | which would essentially lock the file from deletion |
| 14:40.37 | jnwhiteh | aye, that's probably what I'm going to do |
| 14:40.48 | jnwhiteh | but a db works just as well |
| 14:40.51 | jnwhiteh | but with more overhead |
| 14:41.00 | ReAn[Laptop] | use sqlite! |
| 14:41.07 | jnwhiteh | lulz |
| 14:41.14 | krka | keep it all in memory! |
| 14:41.20 | jnwhiteh | ramdisk ftw! |
| 14:41.25 | krka | the os will swap out unused memory anyway |
| 14:41.32 | krka | (when it needs more) |
| 14:41.42 | krka | nah, just plain memory |
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| 14:42.23 | ReAn[Laptop] | even better! print out the 0's and 1's on the users printer, then make a prompt to have them scan the image when you need it again and use OCR technology to rebuild the file |
| 14:42.33 | ReAn[Laptop] | MD5 hash to make sure the OCR didn't fuck up |
| 14:42.35 | ReAn[Laptop] | and if it did |
| 14:42.38 | ReAn[Laptop] | blame the user |
| 14:42.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | they love it when you do that |
| 14:43.30 | ReAn[Laptop] | and suggest that they buy your rebranded printer/scanner @ 10% markup because it has "improved compatability" for the software |
| 14:43.38 | ReAn[Laptop] | and make a killing on crappy hardware sales! |
| 14:44.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | oh! |
| 14:44.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | and make sure you send the data to the printing thread of your app over the internal loopback |
| 14:44.28 | ReAn[Laptop] | so that people's personal firewalls trigger prompts |
| 14:44.45 | ReAn[Laptop] | :D |
| 14:44.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | k, ill shut up now >_> |
| 14:45.00 | krka | or simply respond with "What bear is best?" and if the user answers wrong, no image is served |
| 14:46.24 | mikma | legorol: "Nikna" has arrived in silvermoon |
| 14:46.25 | ReAn[Laptop] | if they chose "pedobear" you need to pass the image through the lolification service first before serving |
| 14:48.33 | zenzelezz | aalib! |
| 14:50.20 | ReAn[Laptop] | jnwhiteh, what project is this for anyway, you've made me mildly curious |
| 14:51.10 | krka | i think it's for www.blp-pr0n-to-png.com |
| 14:51.28 | zenzelezz | krka, you noob |
| 14:51.32 | zenzelezz | it's for pr0n-to-blp |
| 14:51.46 | krka | 16:39:31 <@jnwhiteh> I need to convert an uploaded BLP to PN |
| 14:51.55 | zenzelezz | details |
| 14:52.06 | krka | 1) users upload BLP pr0n. 2) ??? 3) profit! |
| 14:52.45 | jnwhiteh | ReAn[Laptop]: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/blp2png |
| 14:53.17 | krka | i forget, can wow read png? |
| 14:53.23 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 14:53.27 | krka | or just blp? or was it tga? |
| 14:53.29 | jnwhiteh | but graphics editors can't read blp =) |
| 14:53.32 | jnwhiteh | its blp/tga in wow |
| 14:53.36 | krka | ah right |
| 14:53.41 | krka | and blp is hard to produce, right? |
| 14:53.48 | krka | afaik, most addons use tga |
| 14:53.59 | jnwhiteh | blp can be produced, but there's not much of a reason to do so |
| 14:54.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | i read about the blp format |
| 14:54.18 | krka | why does blizzard do it then? :) |
| 14:54.29 | jnwhiteh | krka: space |
| 14:54.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | iirc it basically is a ripped off other format with a fancy blizzard (TM) header |
| 14:54.37 | ReAn[Laptop] | i think at least >_> |
| 14:54.38 | jnwhiteh | and they can afford to, they have the originals. |
| 14:54.39 | ReAn[Laptop] | been a while |
| 14:55.01 | krka | right |
| 14:55.19 | ReAn[Laptop] | jnwhiteh, i am unsure why your converter is 'serving' files tho |
| 14:55.39 | ReAn[Laptop] | oh |
| 14:55.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | doh >_< |
| 14:55.43 | jnwhiteh | there's a few reasons |
| 14:55.43 | krka | how else would it work? |
| 14:55.44 | nevcairiel | doesnt blp allow some kind of DX-features that tga cannot do? i thought i remembered some weird stuff there |
| 14:55.44 | ReAn[Laptop] | web-based |
| 14:55.45 | ReAn[Laptop] | lol |
| 14:55.45 | aesir | Hopefully it's for wowprogramming.com. Another of my infamous bug reports. |
| 14:55.57 | jnwhiteh | aesir: not sure what you mean? |
| 14:56.13 | krka | i don't suppose you could just release a commandline tool that did it? |
| 14:56.19 | krka | would save you bandwidth probably |
| 14:56.23 | jnwhiteh | of course i could |
| 14:56.25 | aesir | That thing with firefox where I couldn't get the converted image back. |
| 14:56.27 | jnwhiteh | but people don't know how to use it |
| 14:56.29 | jnwhiteh | that's why =) |
| 14:56.33 | krka | yeah, i meant as a complement |
| 14:56.35 | krka | not a replacement |
| 14:56.38 | jnwhiteh | those that know how can get one by asking foxlit |
| 14:56.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | jnwhiteh, now that i know it's for the web why couldn't you just store it in a temp folder (not managed by the server) and store a ref in the db to it and an expiration date |
| 14:56.42 | jnwhiteh | its not my code =) |
| 14:56.47 | krka | i see |
| 14:56.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | set up a cron job to prune old pics |
| 14:57.07 | krka | we already proposed that ages ago :P |
| 14:57.14 | nicoli_s | i just wish there was good c# code that would do perfect blp->whatever |
| 14:57.15 | ReAn[Laptop] | >_> |
| 14:57.27 | ReAn[Laptop] | nicoli_s, write it! |
| 14:57.38 | ReAn[Laptop] | actually |
| 14:57.38 | jnwhiteh | nicoli_s: foxlit has objc code. |
| 14:57.40 | jnwhiteh | it works just fine |
| 14:57.43 | jnwhiteh | and he has a c implementation as well |
| 14:57.44 | jnwhiteh | php, lua |
| 14:57.44 | ReAn[Laptop] | with .NET it would be easy as shit |
| 14:57.45 | jnwhiteh | etc |
| 14:57.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | just write a reader to read into the internal Image class |
| 14:58.15 | ReAn[Laptop] | then you can just .Save("my file.png") or .Save("my file.bmp") |
| 14:58.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | etc... |
| 14:58.31 | theorbtwo | Converting BLP to DXF looks pretty damn easy. |
| 14:58.39 | nicoli_s | well yeah but the majority of blp viewers out there dont handle all the special cases |
| 14:58.54 | nicoli_s | i already have one in c# but some of the transparent model textures wont convert correctly |
| 14:59.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | frankly, i'd just kill for a shell extension for thumbnails |
| 14:59.07 | ReAn[Laptop] | then you wouldn't need to convert |
| 14:59.08 | nicoli_s | the alpha gets messed up and merged with the color |
| 14:59.11 | nicoli_s | there is one rean |
| 14:59.16 | jnwhiteh | ReAn[Laptop]: get a mac =) |
| 14:59.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | it any good? |
| 14:59.19 | nicoli_s | no |
| 14:59.24 | ReAn[Laptop] | mac is the devil |
| 14:59.29 | jnwhiteh | the quicklook version works just fine |
| 14:59.30 | nicoli_s | the converter it uses sucks, so it crashes on alot of them |
| 14:59.37 | Lopeppeppy | is the devil |
| 14:59.40 | ReAn[Laptop] | you know what the i stands for in iPod, iMovie, iLife, iPhone, iEtc.... |
| 14:59.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | i is for INFERIOR! |
| 14:59.49 | jnwhiteh | iDon'tCare |
| 14:59.50 | aesir | I'd like a The Gimp plug-in, since we're wishing. |
| 15:00.02 | jnwhiteh | so write one |
| 15:00.05 | jnwhiteh | or pay foxlit to write one |
| 15:00.07 | jnwhiteh | problem solved! |
| 15:00.22 | jnwhiteh | i'd contribute |
| 15:00.29 | ReAn[Laptop] | nicoli_s, if i a) knew how to write a shell extension for thumbnails, and b) knew the blp file format i prolly would write one |
| 15:00.46 | nicoli_s | the blp format is pretty simple |
| 15:00.58 | nicoli_s | its just a blizz header with either raw texture data, or dxt data |
| 15:01.07 | ReAn[Laptop] | well maybe after my finals are done ill write you a C# lib that dosent suck face |
| 15:01.10 | aesir | I'm thinking if the xnview author couldn't pull it off, it's beyond me. |
| 15:01.28 | nicoli_s | id appreciate it |
| 15:01.31 | theorbtwo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.BLP |
| 15:01.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | thx theorbtwo |
| 15:01.59 | ReAn[Laptop] | bookmarked for later this week |
| 15:02.00 | ReAn[Laptop] | :D |
| 15:02.11 | airtonix | jnwhiteh, you can make a script to use the windows cli version of blp2png in gimp |
| 15:02.11 | nicoli_s | i have existing c# code if anyone needs it |
| 15:02.14 | ReAn[Laptop] | now back to studying social stratifcation theory and drinking energy drinks |
| 15:02.19 | airtonix | scriptfu |
| 15:02.24 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: thats not the same :P |
| 15:02.25 | nicoli_s | blp2png doesnt handle all of them correctly either |
| 15:03.25 | airtonix | is there a clie one that does? |
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| 15:03.57 | nicoli_s | not that i have seen |
| 15:04.14 | nicoli_s | but really, if all you care about is interface stuff and not model textures, those work fine |
| 15:05.03 | ReAn[Laptop] | nicoli_s, the file format looks pretty straightforward |
| 15:05.11 | ReAn[Laptop] | im surprized not everyone supports it |
| 15:05.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | fully that is |
| 15:05.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | really the only big thing is the dxt and the wierd types of alpha |
| 15:05.44 | nicoli_s | yah |
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| 15:08.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | you know, in this text this fella named popenoe keeps going on about the horrible problem of dropping fertility rates (i.e. people makin less babies) |
| 15:08.45 | ReAn[Laptop] | but is that really a BAD thing? our average birth rate is still way above the death rate |
| 15:08.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | we're still expanding and running out of space |
| 15:08.57 | ReAn[Laptop] | shit look at china/india |
| 15:09.05 | ReAn[Laptop] | already rediculously overcrowded |
| 15:09.08 | Legorol | mikma: ping |
| 15:09.27 | mikma | legorol: hai |
| 15:09.55 | Legorol | mikma: want to experiment with DK rolling and summon and stuff in a few mins? |
| 15:10.00 | Legorol | about to kill KT |
| 15:10.04 | Legorol | then i should be free :) |
| 15:10.04 | mikma | legorol: Nikna is in Silvermoon |
| 15:10.12 | Legorol | and who is Nikna :) |
| 15:10.16 | mikma | my dk |
| 15:10.23 | ReAn[Laptop] | so |
| 15:10.27 | mikma | Mikma is my shaman there :D |
| 15:10.39 | Legorol | what race? |
| 15:10.43 | ReAn[Laptop] | i was at this comic expo today and this chick was dressed up head to toe in purple body paint & a nelf costume |
| 15:10.49 | mikma | tauren female |
| 15:10.51 | Legorol | sweet |
| 15:10.54 | mikma | just like requested |
| 15:10.57 | Legorol | I'll try to get hold of a warlock or a summon stone |
| 15:10.59 | Legorol | very nice of you |
| 15:11.05 | ReAn[Laptop] | my friend wearing his "For the horde" shirt went over to her and yelled @ the top of his lings "FOR THE HORDE!" |
| 15:11.06 | mikma | yeah np |
| 15:11.09 | ReAn[Laptop] | it was awesome |
| 15:11.10 | Legorol | hmm, i wonder what works on a 55 DK |
| 15:11.13 | Legorol | i guess HFP stone might |
| 15:11.25 | mikma | hmm no, that won't do |
| 15:11.34 | mikma | if HFP is lvl58+ |
| 15:11.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | Legorol, lvl 55 in silvermoon? |
| 15:11.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | howso? |
| 15:12.04 | mikma | rean[laptop]: achievement hunting |
| 15:12.08 | Legorol | ReAn[Laptop]: we are trying to fix up the bunny shaking |
| 15:12.14 | Legorol | so mikma rolled a female tauren DK on silvermoon for me |
| 15:12.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | you prettymuch can't complete the intro quests to get out of the intro instance w/o hitting 58 |
| 15:12.20 | Legorol | but she is in start area |
| 15:12.31 | mikma | that's what we are trying |
| 15:12.31 | Legorol | we want to try and summon her out of there |
| 15:12.39 | ReAn[Laptop] | i dont believe you can |
| 15:12.43 | ReAn[Laptop] | oh |
| 15:12.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | you know what would work? |
| 15:12.49 | mikma | we're going to try :) |
| 15:12.52 | mikma | doesn't hurt |
| 15:12.53 | ReAn[Laptop] | well |
| 15:12.55 | ReAn[Laptop] | maybe |
| 15:13.05 | ReAn[Laptop] | jump in a raid when you "turn in" quests |
| 15:13.12 | ReAn[Laptop] | shouldn't that kill the exp component? |
| 15:13.23 | ReAn[Laptop] | no crap |
| 15:13.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | you'd still get exp from the kills and shit |
| 15:13.38 | mikma | the whole startingarea is phased |
| 15:13.44 | ReAn[Laptop] | i know |
| 15:13.57 | ReAn[Laptop] | but you can still join groups and shit |
| 15:14.05 | mikma | so we're trying what happens if they summon me in dalaran / instance |
| 15:14.20 | ReAn[Laptop] | prolly just get "Invalid Target" |
| 15:14.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | like when you try to summon someone who's saved into your instance |
| 15:14.55 | ReAn[Laptop] | i dont think you can get out of the intro area without being 58 |
| 15:16.03 | mikma | thats why we are going to test :D |
| 15:16.10 | mikma | and we will tell you what happens hehe |
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| 15:17.35 | ReAn[Laptop] | not to mention |
| 15:17.38 | ReAn[Laptop] | if he does get out |
| 15:17.44 | ReAn[Laptop] | he'll be scilenced in horde cities |
| 15:17.47 | ReAn[Laptop] | and spat on |
| 15:17.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | until he completes the quest |
| 15:18.02 | ReAn[Laptop] | which he can't complete since he cant get back into the phase |
| 15:18.13 | mikma | who cares, she'll be deleted right after everyone who gets the achievement in order to create a new one |
| 15:18.24 | mikma | -who |
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| 15:25.19 | mikma | legorol: so, my cow is completely bugged. it has no animations |
| 15:25.28 | mikma | it "floats" everywhere |
| 15:25.30 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: send me make-me-better cookies plst? |
| 15:26.13 | Lopeppeppy | I would, but I eated the chocolate chips last night. :( |
| 15:26.35 | mikma | lopeppeppy: no, you should have replied "if the cookies help you write better addons, sure" |
| 15:26.36 | Ackis | u eated it all? :( |
| 15:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom, do not mess with a girl who needs chocolate |
| 15:27.02 | Elkano | wouldn't almost anything help him wrt that? ;) |
| 15:27.10 | mikma | most likely :D |
| 15:27.15 | mikma | except for breathing |
| 15:27.20 | mikma | apparently that haven't helped |
| 15:28.16 | Ackis | svn del svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/arl/mainline/trunk -m "Elkano and mikma are being meanie poopy heads" |
| 15:28.40 | ReAn[Laptop] | ew, svn |
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| 15:28.53 | Ackis | ReAn[Laptop]: legacy |
| 15:29.12 | Elkano | I still use svn for all my projects |
| 15:29.48 | ReAn[Laptop] | i've moved most of mine over to git |
| 15:29.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | mainly cuz i fell in love with git |
| 15:30.15 | zenzelezz | I for one don't like git |
| 15:30.21 | Ackis | ReAn[Laptop]: same, I'm not in love with git but I like the process better... however ARL is at 1600 revisions, so it's kinda scary to move that over |
| 15:30.24 | Riffage | <3 git |
| 15:30.47 | ReAn[Laptop] | Ackis, you know git has an automated converter right? |
| 15:30.52 | ReAn[Laptop] | will retain everything |
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| 15:31.10 | ReAn[Laptop] | git help svn |
| 15:31.31 | Ackis | ReAn[Laptop]: doesn't work for windows from what I've been told, and I didn't want to make the person that helped me go through all of that. |
| 15:31.42 | Legorol | mikma: ping |
| 15:31.44 | mikma | legorol: pong |
| 15:31.46 | Legorol | mikma: got a warlock in dalaran |
| 15:31.49 | Legorol | let's try the summon |
| 15:31.57 | mikma | legorol: go for it |
| 15:32.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | yea, msys dosen't work for svn because it isn't compiled with the svn libs |
| 15:32.04 | ReAn[Laptop] | that's it really |
| 15:32.13 | ReAn[Laptop] | so do it on a nix machine |
| 15:32.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | btw |
| 15:32.29 | Ackis | ReAn[Laptop]: it's not a huge issue... I don't have a nix machine :P nor the willpower to create one |
| 15:32.29 | ReAn[Laptop] | thx for notifying me up LibAboutPanel's new repo |
| 15:32.35 | Legorol | mikma: ok, are you online :) |
| 15:32.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | Ackis, this is what virtualization is for |
| 15:32.47 | mikma | legorol: have been a while now |
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| 15:32.58 | mikma | [18:32:53] Total time played: 0 days, 0 hours, 22 minutes, 58 seconds |
| 15:32.58 | ReAn[Laptop] | i have a small 4gb ubuntu build on my laptop |
| 15:33.00 | mikma | lolo |
| 15:33.17 | airtonix | jaunty is out...gogo ext4 |
| 15:33.23 | mikma | legorol: someone is badmouthing horde in general of acherus :D |
| 15:33.33 | mikma | legorol: "i'm making this char for my friends" |
| 15:33.41 | Legorol | mikma: D'OH you are horde |
| 15:33.44 | Legorol | we can't summon you >.< |
| 15:33.49 | mikma | legorol: .. |
| 15:33.53 | Legorol | yes, headdesk |
| 15:33.59 | ReAn[Laptop] | lol |
| 15:34.00 | mikma | legorol: you know, i thought you are a horde, too |
| 15:34.05 | Ackis | ReAn[Laptop]: sorry about libaboutpanel... I had it converted then realized "omg libraries issues fuck me" |
| 15:34.27 | ReAn[Laptop] | Ackis, you actually notified me before i had gotten around to updating my mod |
| 15:34.33 | Legorol | mikma: oops, so what are we going to do |
| 15:34.34 | Ackis | oh |
| 15:34.34 | ReAn[Laptop] | easy fix |
| 15:34.50 | ReAn[Laptop] | btw |
| 15:34.57 | ReAn[Laptop] | changes to .pkgmeta or not |
| 15:35.06 | ReAn[Laptop] | the push checks the .pkgmeta and would have failed |
| 15:35.11 | mikma | legorol: meh, i dunno, i don't feel like leveling ^^ |
| 15:35.17 | Legorol | yeah that's fair |
| 15:35.18 | ReAn[Laptop] | i noticed it when i tried to push my v2.0.0 branch earlier |
| 15:35.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | and hadn't updated the pkgmeta |
| 15:35.27 | Legorol | mikma: i can't see you if i go to acherus, right? |
| 15:35.32 | Legorol | might as well try |
| 15:35.39 | mikma | legorol: phased |
| 15:35.43 | Legorol | :( |
| 15:35.50 | ReAn[Laptop] | it wouldn't let me pass a null commit on a different file till i fixed the pkgmeta to point at a valid repo |
| 15:36.45 | ReAn[Laptop] | shit, is my lib in svn or git O.o |
| 15:37.06 | Legorol | mikma: i'll just head to orgrimmar, i might have luck thee |
| 15:37.13 | ReAn[Laptop] | fucknuggets |
| 15:37.16 | ReAn[Laptop] | svn |
| 15:37.19 | ReAn[Laptop] | hrm |
| 15:37.23 | jnwhiteh | i'm so jealous that there are actually people on your servers |
| 15:37.33 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: l2US |
| 15:37.40 | ReAn[Laptop] | jnwhiteh, what do you mean? |
| 15:37.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | nobody on your server? |
| 15:37.48 | jnwhiteh | there aren't any on mine |
| 15:37.51 | jnwhiteh | no, ask mikma |
| 15:37.52 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 15:38.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | i remember my shaman used to be on Eredar |
| 15:38.05 | mikma | legorol: well, might be better luck in thunder bluff |
| 15:38.08 | ReAn[Laptop] | at 2am there would be around 27 horde online |
| 15:38.24 | ReAn[Laptop] | i moved the fuck off there asap |
| 15:38.30 | mikma | no, the server where jnwhiteh plays is almost deserted on alliance side |
| 15:38.40 | ReAn[Laptop] | horde heavy? |
| 15:38.40 | mikma | there was 4 persons standing in the IF |
| 15:38.49 | jnwhiteh | no, 4 people there.. period. |
| 15:38.52 | jnwhiteh | 0 in darn |
| 15:38.53 | ReAn[Laptop] | meh, alliance suck anyway |
| 15:38.54 | jnwhiteh | 10 in sw |
| 15:38.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | lol |
| 15:38.57 | jnwhiteh | 8 in dalaran |
| 15:39.27 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: why don't you play with Fisker-? |
| 15:39.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | well like i said jnwhiteh, my first server for my shaman had about 27 people online @ 2am every night |
| 15:39.35 | jnwhiteh | lol Ackis |
| 15:39.52 | Ackis | I'm sorry that crossed the line! |
| 15:39.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | which sucked ass for a pvp server |
| 15:45.22 | Fisker- | hey jnwhiteh |
| 15:45.27 | jnwhiteh | anyone familiar with pngcrush |
| 15:45.30 | jnwhiteh | is it lossless? |
| 15:45.31 | Fisker- | you know who's awesome? |
| 15:45.37 | Fisker- | You're awesome! |
| 15:45.49 | jnwhiteh | aw thanks! |
| 15:45.50 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 15:45.52 | jnwhiteh | wikipedia says it is |
| 15:45.55 | theorbtwo | jnwhiteh: Yes, it is. |
| 15:45.57 | jnwhiteh | sweet |
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| 15:46.51 | Fisker- | so i bought a new monitor to fix the 1 pixel bug |
| 15:46.54 | Fisker- | it better work jnwhiteh |
| 15:47.00 | jnwhiteh | thanks |
| 15:47.02 | jnwhiteh | now i dont have to fix it! |
| 15:47.05 | jnwhiteh | good choice! |
| 15:47.16 | Fisker- | ye |
| 15:48.01 | theorbtwo | Well, it's lossy if you run it with certian specific options that tell it to loose stuff. The defaults are lossless. |
| 15:48.45 | Fisker- | so if it doesn't work you owe me a new monitor jnwhiteh |
| 15:50.24 | jnwhiteh | oh, okay |
| 15:50.26 | jnwhiteh | that seems fair |
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| 16:28.04 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: the latest HEF doesn't seem to have the eggfinding code in it =) |
| 16:28.16 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:28.17 | jnwhiteh | srsly? |
| 16:28.27 | nevcairiel | are you still not done with your eggs wobster? :) |
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| 16:30.02 | mikma | haha, now HEFner spams me "Quickly! she's ...!" |
| 16:30.15 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: make sure this works |
| 16:30.15 | jnwhiteh | http://pastey.net/113166 |
| 16:30.36 | jnwhiteh | if so i'll update =) |
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| 16:30.53 | Wobin | aye, that looks fine =) |
| 16:31.20 | Wobin | although it still doesn't check if you're doing the quest, although, if you're not, you'd disable the addon I guess =) |
| 16:31.37 | mikma | yeah, spam spam spammity spam :D |
| 16:31.52 | Wobin | It's encouragement to get the achievement done |
| 16:32.03 | Wobin | if you bunny a race, it won't prompt you for that race again =) |
| 16:36.50 | jnwhiteh | heh |
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| 16:42.40 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:42.50 | mikma | gas |
| 16:43.11 | Lunessa | No thanks. Gas leads to bloating and a stinky office. |
| 16:43.35 | mikma | gas station |
| 16:44.35 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi Lunessa. |
| 16:44.50 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
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| 16:46.04 | Lopeppeppy | Hoppy Monday |
| 16:48.40 | Lunessa | Monday is not usually happy. |
| 16:49.12 | Lopeppeppy | I said Hoppy! |
| 16:51.15 | Fisker- | THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS |
| 16:51.16 | Fisker- | HISSS |
| 16:51.40 | Trela_ | hops around! |
| 16:53.49 | Lunessa | Fisker-: You're why we can't have nice things. Don't think I don't know what you're doing to them! |
| 16:54.16 | Fisker- | no u :( |
| 16:54.24 | Fisker- | I'M arguecat.jpg |
| 16:55.20 | alestane | Lunessa: I am amused by your dream. |
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| 16:55.41 | Lunessa | alestane: I left out the part in my message where I get fired for it. |
| 16:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | I has a dream? |
| 16:58.42 | alestane | My wife just told me she just saw an ad for a USB-enabled soda-fridge. I'm still trying to figure out what this means. |
| 16:58.54 | Lopeppeppy | Hot! |
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| 16:59.10 | Shefki | alestane: Just runs off USB. That's all |
| 16:59.47 | Lopeppeppy | Alestane -- http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7340 |
| 16:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | I want the USB handwarmers. Want them BAD. |
| 17:00.08 | Lunessa | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20090427 |
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| 17:01.44 | Lunessa | What a waste of a USB slot. I want a fridge that I can check via TCP/IP - it should have a web-front end and it should let me know when I'm running low on soda. |
| 17:01.58 | foxlit | Whoever designed that event should face the wrath of Neptulon |
| 17:02.23 | Lunessa | foxlit: They should taste the falmes of Sulfuron! |
| 17:02.24 | alestane | That was what I thought, that you could tell it what soda to dispense from your iPhone while you were on the way to the rec room. |
| 17:02.37 | Lunessa | alestane: Now we're talking. |
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| 17:03.12 | Lopeppeppy | OMG you two are such geeks |
| 17:04.31 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: I don't know, that seemed unnecessarily geeky to me. |
| 17:05.04 | alestane | The USB-powered beverage cooler at least makes sense, if seeming uselessly gadgety. |
| 17:05.34 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 17:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously want the USB handwarmers |
| 17:05.42 | Lunessa | Listen, I agree with the guys who developed a finger application for the coke machine on campus and coffee servers. I mean, com'on. |
| 17:07.13 | Lunessa | I want to post this on my realm forum: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 17:07.15 | Lopeppeppy | finger application? |
| 17:09.23 | alestane | "Oh, Backslash! It's you! What have you been up to?" |
| 17:09.23 | alestane | I have made myself a vessel for darkness. And blood. SO MUCH blood." |
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| 17:10.46 | haste | what's the site that could track people who might have renamed their char? |
| 17:11.37 | mikma | there is a site for that? |
| 17:13.06 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/brazen-overtures-like-mints-on-pillows/1866 Some people, you wonder why you even bother.... |
| 17:13.33 | Lunessa | haste: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/ - but it's not exact. |
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| 17:14.27 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/27/funny-pictures-whole-nuther-cat/ |
| 17:14.28 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Garrosh&n=Rushh <-fail |
| 17:14.34 | Fisker- | a death knight that has val'anyr |
| 17:14.35 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 17:15.34 | Dashkal | ? I see an empty weapon slot |
| 17:15.50 | haste | Lunessa: there was another one, which tried to track based on gear |
| 17:15.52 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 17:15.55 | Fisker- | look at the item id |
| 17:15.58 | Fisker- | look it up on wowhead |
| 17:15.59 | Fisker- | ??? |
| 17:16.00 | Fisker- | profit |
| 17:16.14 | Dashkal | ahh |
| 17:16.37 | Dashkal | hmm, odd |
| 17:16.46 | mikma | bugged ^^ |
| 17:16.50 | Fisker- | rumors on the internets goes that a GM gave it to him |
| 17:16.53 | Dashkal | I didn't think 3.1 had been out long enough for Val'anyr to be out |
| 17:17.03 | NightHawkTheSane | it can't possibly have been |
| 17:17.09 | mikma | fisker-: sure, and bunnies poop flowers |
| 17:17.24 | NightHawkTheSane | ... well mikma, when two bunnies get together.. |
| 17:17.26 | Fisker- | huh mikma? |
| 17:17.36 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: they poop babies? |
| 17:17.43 | NightHawkTheSane | no, flowers. |
| 17:18.00 | mikma | fisker-: huh fisker- |
| 17:18.07 | mikma | why would gm give him the weapon |
| 17:18.13 | Fisker- | mistake? |
| 17:18.16 | Fisker- | corruption? |
| 17:18.17 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 17:18.25 | mikma | na, i'll go with the bug |
| 17:18.29 | Dashkal | Last day before quitting? |
| 17:18.34 | Fisker- | or a bug mikma |
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| 17:18.59 | Lunessa | did the EU armory get an upgrade that US didn't, or did the format change over the weekend? |
| 17:19.00 | Fisker- | But a GM making a mistake, or doing something he's not supposed to isn't exactly new |
| 17:19.32 | airtonix | has some one got a link to a nice post you guys made at the wowi forums to refute this kind of claim? |
| 17:19.33 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.34 | mikma | yeah i know, i got teleported behind silithus once |
| 17:19.36 | Lunessa | Ah, new format all around. |
| 17:19.46 | Fisker- | we had a level 40 in BWL/AQ40/TBC epics/rare |
| 17:19.46 | mikma | i was exploring, deleted my hs and jumped in a pit under orgrimmar |
| 17:19.46 | Fisker- | s |
| 17:20.00 | mikma | gm ticket "i forgot my HS in the bank and i am stuck under orgrimmar" |
| 17:20.18 | Shefki | Just click Unstuck it'll hearth you. |
| 17:20.19 | Dashkal | I'd agree with it with the logic that blizzard has well paid lawyers... |
| 17:20.26 | mikma | gm said 'i'll put on my superior gnomish mountainclimbing equipment and rescue you' |
| 17:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 17:20.38 | mikma | and teleported me into behind Ahn'Qiraj |
| 17:20.52 | mikma | almost killed me, too, left me like 3% hp from the fall |
| 17:21.21 | Lunessa | mikma: And a good time was had by all, especially the GM. |
| 17:21.53 | mikma | yeah, especially him. he teleported me infront of stormwind later cause i mounted and ran away |
| 17:23.00 | Dashkal | I got myself stuck in an instance (no instances available so couldn't log in). Got a GM to hearth me. What happened is I ended up at the right location (Sewers) but I had no terrain and a malygos sky. So I could see everybody in dalaran and all the doodads, but not the ground. |
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| 17:23.29 | Shefki | Dashkal: Known issue, just zone back into the instance you were in and back out. |
| 17:23.49 | Dashkal | Shefki: On another toon I presume? I couldn't log in |
| 17:24.01 | Dashkal | The entire party was fubar that way |
| 17:24.09 | Shefki | Nope on the effected toon. |
| 17:24.15 | Dashkal | How? I couldn't log in |
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| 17:24.35 | Shefki | How do you know you could see Malygos sky at the same time as Dalarn? |
| 17:24.45 | Dashkal | Lemme find the screenshot |
| 17:24.45 | mikma | so, go and check if the dk has the mace, i think it's easiest :D |
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| 17:25.12 | amro | Minigob Manabonk fails at spelling |
| 17:25.18 | Lunessa | Lately, if I alt+tab while WoW is at a loading screen (ui reload, zoning, etc.) it exits to desktop - no message, no crash catch, just... poof. |
| 17:25.21 | Shefki | Dashkal: Everytime I've heard of people having this issue they could log in. |
| 17:25.40 | Dashkal | I couldn't log in that character. Could log in any other. The maly sky was after being force-hearthed |
| 17:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | My wow just crashes when I try to log out, freezes and won't close. |
| 17:27.49 | amro | Mischief Maker has only 1 charge :'( |
| 17:31.00 | Lopeppeppy | Awwwww. |
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| 17:32.55 | Dashkal | Shefki: http://imagebin.ca/view/stU_o1il.html |
| 17:32.58 | Shirik | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 17:33.10 | Aelobin | 30ap or 12 crit for a dk :P |
| 17:33.18 | Lopeppeppy | Godo morning, Shirik. How's things? |
| 17:33.30 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:33.31 | Shefki | Dashkal: Yeah if you get that you should head back to Malygos zone in and out and it should fix it. |
| 17:33.32 | Aelobin | Wobin: almighty dk :P |
| 17:33.37 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:33.42 | Dashkal | Shefki: I couldn't move |
| 17:33.49 | Shefki | Dashkal: Weird. |
| 17:33.51 | Dashkal | Very |
| 17:33.59 | Lopeppeppy | Soon summer break? Have an interneship lined up? |
| 17:34.01 | Dashkal | I was stuck in place, but considered "moving" for purposes of spellcast |
| 17:34.03 | Wobin | http://www.indiegamepod.com/2009/04/video-podcast-interview-experimental.html |
| 17:34.08 | Wobin | Aelobin: whassup? |
| 17:34.10 | Dashkal | Had the GM port me to stormwind to gix it |
| 17:34.12 | Dashkal | fix* |
| 17:34.20 | Aelobin | 30ap or 12crit :P |
| 17:34.26 | Shefki | Dashkal: Basically what's happened is the game thinks you're in both places at once. |
| 17:34.31 | Dashkal | nice |
| 17:34.45 | Dashkal | Wonder if the GM accidently sent me to maly first. I was in the nexus when I borked, not maly |
| 17:35.31 | Shirik | yes Lopeppeppy, I'm going to Washington over the summer |
| 17:35.44 | Wobin | Aelobin: probably the AP |
| 17:35.50 | Aelobin | ^^ |
| 17:35.50 | Shefki | Shirik: Which Washington |
| 17:35.59 | Shirik | the one I don't live near |
| 17:36.06 | Shirik | If it were DC I would have said DC |
| 17:36.16 | Shirik | like anyone that lives in/near DC |
| 17:36.19 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. Enjoy the other coast, it can be nice to travel. |
| 17:36.40 | Lopeppeppy | If it were DC, I'd say you could jet up for a weekend. But I'll be packing to move, that won't be overly fun. |
| 17:36.46 | Wobin | Aelobin: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t36638-death_knight_pve_dps/#Stats_choices |
| 17:36.56 | Aelobin | ty :) |
| 17:37.40 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, I live like 30 minutes out of DC |
| 17:38.42 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: btw, I advertised your addon on LJ |
| 17:38.51 | jnwhiteh | lj? |
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| 17:39.12 | Fisker- | livejournal? |
| 17:39.16 | alestane | LiveJournal, usually. |
| 17:39.23 | jnwhiteh | yeah i figured, just wasn't sure =) |
| 17:39.51 | Bibi | why do I fail at using ArkInventory? |
| 17:40.02 | Dashkal | One thing I did learn from that experience is that Dalaran has about as good a visibility map as Shattrath |
| 17:40.02 | Dashkal | Apparently non-terrain ground (there a proper term for that) can't block visibility |
| 17:40.26 | Mike-N-Go | I am trying to use code to get who has control of Wintergrasp. WorldMapFramePOI3 is the frame that has the Alliance or Horde crest when the Northrend map is up. I have tried WorldMapFramePOI3Texture:GetTexture(), but that returns "Interface\\Minimap\\POIIcons". I am at a loss for the code to see if it is the Alliance or Horde crest in that position. |
| 17:40.38 | Mike-N-Go | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.36 | Shirik | FUCK YEAH |
| 17:41.37 | Shirik | sorry |
| 17:41.46 | Shirik | this one class was kicking my ass |
| 17:41.54 | Shirik | I got a 94 on the final, which translates into an 80.6 for the class |
| 17:41.57 | Shirik | Barely a B |
| 17:42.00 | Shirik | I'm happy >.> |
| 17:42.01 | kneeki | Any warlocks here have a link to an Uludar updated Best in Slot gear list? |
| 17:42.33 | Shirik | lol @ average 77 on the final |
| 17:42.35 | Seerah | huggles Shirik |
| 17:42.40 | Wobin | grats Shirik! |
| 17:42.56 | Shefki | kneeki: Kinda hard to do that when not even all the gear has been discovered yet. |
| 17:42.57 | Seerah | kneeki: have you tried the Rawr program? |
| 17:42.58 | Dashkal | ooo, nice, Shirik |
| 17:43.09 | End | didn't someone make a list on EJ? |
| 17:43.15 | kneeki | Seerah, I don't think so... |
| 17:43.20 | kneeki | Well, no. I havn't |
| 17:43.22 | End | or they were trying to :P |
| 17:43.30 | End | I avoid BiS lists personally though |
| 17:43.43 | End | if I try to go for BiS, it will never drop |
| 17:43.44 | Seerah | http://www.codeplex.com/Rawr <-- kneeki |
| 17:43.49 | KarlKFI | just check maxdps.com or lootrank.com with your own #'s |
| 17:43.52 | kneeki | Thanks |
| 17:44.10 | KarlKFI | they both update from wowhead's db |
| 17:44.23 | End | does maxdps actually let you use custom weights? |
| 17:44.33 | KarlKFI | no, but lootrank does |
| 17:44.42 | KarlKFI | maxdps is for lazy people |
| 17:44.43 | End | oh, right, I didn't parse your sentence properly |
| 17:45.50 | KarlKFI | for the most part maxdps has been fairly accurate, tho there's no garentee he's taken into account 3.1 changes yet like the armor pen buff |
| 17:46.13 | End | well, kneeki wouldn't care about that at least |
| 17:46.54 | KarlKFI | right. and if you're anal about it you can always make your own ranks on lootrank |
| 17:47.17 | KarlKFI | for instance, you may want to factor in stam |
| 17:47.26 | kneeki | eh? |
| 17:47.29 | kneeki | I care about all things! |
| 17:47.37 | KarlKFI | since ulduar has so much raid dmg |
| 17:47.44 | kneeki | zoh em gee |
| 17:47.47 | kneeki | Rawr is amazing |
| 17:47.59 | KarlKFI | and locks generally need stam even tho it doesn't directly influence dps |
| 17:48.21 | kneeki | KarlKFI, I have not ever gemmed, or stacked stam in any way on my lock after BC was released |
| 17:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | swine flu is the pigs revenge for this! http://www.flickr.com/photos/megancohen/556704378/ |
| 17:48.36 | kneeki | Prior to BC, STAm was the lock stat, never sence then though |
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| 17:48.54 | End | well, even in BC they put a lot of extra stam on our tier pieces |
| 17:48.58 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, bacon. |
| 17:48.59 | KarlKFI | sure, but you may want to rank something with 120stam over something with none... |
| 17:49.02 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: oh dear god |
| 17:49.26 | Wobin | Somewhere.. somehow, a pig has suddenly gotten diabetes from this thing just existing. |
| 17:49.31 | kneeki | KarlKFI, Never do I use stam as a reason to weigh one item over another |
| 17:49.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: i'm pretty sure we're beyond gods help now. |
| 17:49.39 | kneeki | Now, on my prot paladin, that's a different story. |
| 17:49.42 | KarlKFI | that's your perogative |
| 17:50.16 | Dashkal | Ok, that just looks nasty |
| 17:50.24 | kneeki | KarlKFI, Indeed :) |
| 17:50.31 | End | you'd want to consider it if you got something like 50 spellpower versus 50 spell power, 10 stam ...but that doesn't happen very often in reality |
| 17:50.35 | KarlKFI | there's a good example for ret pally tho where the BS helm has no stam on it, even tho it was 2nd best in slot some people prefered a lower helm just so they had some stam on it |
| 17:50.43 | Lunessa | Wobin: that... that looks awesome. |
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| 17:50.56 | kneeki | My job on my lock is DPS. I must have it maxamized. Stamina does nothing for maxing my dps other than that ole "You don't do any DPS if you're dead!" nonsense |
| 17:51.10 | KarlKFI | no nonsense imo |
| 17:51.13 | KarlKFI | not* |
| 17:51.13 | Wobin | Lunessa: It brings out the physics geek in you, doesn't it? =) |
| 17:51.25 | Lunessa | the maplebacon donut? |
| 17:51.42 | Wobin | oh, I thought you were referring to a previous link |
| 17:51.45 | Lunessa | Oh sorry, that NHtS. |
| 17:52.02 | KarlKFI | when learning a new instance the burden is partially on you to not get yourself killed. you can't blame everything ont he healers |
| 17:52.04 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 17:52.12 | kneeki | KarlKFI, If you're dead, you did something wrong. And in Uludar or Naxx for that matter, if a lock is 'hit' by anything for the most part, they are going to die anyway. A few hundred extra HP for the dps loss is not worth it imo |
| 17:52.15 | End | sure you can |
| 17:52.28 | End | unless you're saying I should have 30k hp or something |
| 17:52.36 | kneeki | i try my best to not let my healers die... They are my mana batteries! |
| 17:52.43 | Lunessa | EJ forums make me wish more people actually kept honest track of numbers. :) |
| 17:52.53 | Wobin | --> http://community.livejournal.com/food_porn/5328726.html |
| 17:52.53 | batbot | Wobin: @ [string "http://community.livejournal.com/food_porn/5328726.html"]:1: '<name>' expected near '/' |
| 17:53.01 | Wobin | whups =P |
| 17:53.20 | alestane | kneeki: There is also the "can't do any DPS when you're out of mana" point. |
| 17:54.02 | End | that's probably more of an argument for int than stam though :P |
| 17:54.06 | Wobin | alestane: wand =) |
| 17:54.10 | kneeki | alestane, that's very true! But I have yet to ever see mana become an issue for any warlock. If the fight is healing intensive, the locks should not be demanding heals from them (patches for example) and use their lifedrains instead. |
| 17:54.19 | End | life tap doesn't take -that- much health off |
| 17:54.28 | kneeki | End, It's 3k+ for me |
| 17:54.39 | alestane | kneeki: I constantly have to tell the raid healers NOT to heal me, actually. |
| 17:54.40 | kneeki | Prior to the last patch, I was tapping for right under 5k I think |
| 17:54.52 | Kazie | Can anyone tell if there is any certain way of taking agro on Flame Leviathan? |
| 17:54.53 | End | jesus, how much spirit did you have? |
| 17:54.54 | kneeki | alestane, Mhmm, it's a habbit for them. |
| 17:54.58 | Lunessa | Meh, I've been leveling my mage, and I have learned something - It's a lot harder to play well as a mage than I remembered. |
| 17:55.07 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: the problem is, its impossible for a healer to tell the difference between a lock tapping, and a lack being an idiot and standing in the fire. |
| 17:55.16 | kneeki | End, I have no idea... Lots |
| 17:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | the solution is either heal tapping locks, or never heal locks, ever. |
| 17:55.32 | alestane | They just go, "OMG I just saw a health bar go down!" |
| 17:55.40 | kneeki | Yup! |
| 17:55.54 | alestane | Nice healthbars don't go down. |
| 17:56.06 | KarlKFI | could make a mod track lock life taps and indicate on your unit frames... |
| 17:56.06 | End | I'm affliction, so I can easily negate the health loss anyway :P |
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| 17:57.25 | alestane | KarlKFI: That would actually be pretty cool. |
| 17:57.43 | KarlKFI | i dont heal anymore tho... |
| 17:57.50 | kneeki | I agree... |
| 17:58.02 | kneeki | Add it to perfectRaid or Grid imo |
| 17:58.08 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.22 | Lopeppeppy | They life tap and die, their problem, not mine. |
| 17:58.40 | End | it's your problem when you hit enrage timer! |
| 17:58.54 | Lopeppeppy | *shrug* Learn to not kill yourself. |
| 17:59.31 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: It's a teaching experience |
| 17:59.44 | Lopeppeppy | One learns a great deal from a dirt nap, IMO |
| 17:59.52 | Wobin | If they're tapping, they know they're losing life and may possibly be second priority to heals |
| 17:59.58 | Wobin | if they're standing in shit, they'll die =) |
| 18:00.38 | End | life tap won't kill you, but if you refuse to ever heal a warlock because he has to take a bit of his own life, that -is- going to be your problem, most likely |
| 18:01.20 | End | personally, I'm not sure how much use a life tap monitor would be useful, since there's enough raid damage I expect to get overhealed anyway |
| 18:01.39 | NightHawkTheSane | End: its situational. |
| 18:01.46 | foxlit | Just, don't, er, tap enough to be in danger of dying |
| 18:02.05 | End | well, you should never be double tapping :P |
| 18:02.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont mind healing a tapping lock on fights where i'm not using every gcd to make sure someone -doesn't die- |
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| 18:03.50 | Wobin | How do shamans get used to not having a HoT? =\ |
| 18:03.54 | Wobin | (levelling...) |
| 18:04.08 | NightHawkTheSane | we dont level resto? :P |
| 18:04.17 | Wobin | I was healtanking today as elemental... |
| 18:04.17 | End | actually, I did kill myself with life tap once on gluth....it was a mistake I made sure to never make again >_> |
| 18:04.35 | End | stupid decimate |
| 18:04.42 | Wobin | desperately waiting to get hit, so watershield would give me enough mana to heal =P |
| 18:06.38 | Wobin | although, thinking about it, warlocks generally (if they're not dumb) wouldn't be lifetapping if they're already losing health due to environmental concerns |
| 18:07.09 | NightHawkTheSane | in general |
| 18:07.16 | Wobin | So a barfade on a lifetap to indicate it's purposeful would at least tell a healer that the warlock isn't taking external damage |
| 18:07.18 | NightHawkTheSane | its only the dumb locks that make healers cry |
| 18:07.34 | Wobin | so can perhaps wait a gcd in lieu of the other raid member who needs it -now- |
| 18:07.52 | alestane | I don't think I make healers cry, I just wish the ones I have would learn that I will make up my own life loss most of the time. |
| 18:08.06 | NightHawkTheSane | although the bigger issue is on fights with semi-random raid damage, its not that the lock IS taking damage and tapping, its that tapping puts them in range to be one-shot from the raid damage, so we HAVE to heal them |
| 18:08.08 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: true, but healers will learn quickly who are the dumb 'locks |
| 18:09.18 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: I'd slot that in the same category as 'taking raid damage' |
| 18:09.29 | Wobin | since you'd heal them anyway since they're below a certain point |
| 18:09.43 | NightHawkTheSane | basically |
| 18:10.41 | Wobin | =\ I want to level elemental |
| 18:10.46 | Wobin | but it's very boring =\ |
| 18:10.47 | NightHawkTheSane | so do it? |
| 18:10.51 | NightHawkTheSane | :p |
| 18:11.09 | Wobin | enhance might be better, but I'm very likely to forget I'm not a DK =) |
| 18:11.58 | Lunessa | Wobin: Enhancement is awesome for soloing. |
| 18:12.13 | Wobin | I guess, cause even though it's a caster class, the spells either share cooldowns, or don't have the same versatility as other classes |
| 18:12.24 | Wobin | like DoTs and the like |
| 18:12.46 | Wobin | Lunessa: getting gear for enhancement is probably my main concern |
| 18:13.04 | NightHawkTheSane | its basically just hunter gear. *shrug* |
| 18:13.11 | Wobin | also, I'd want to switch to resto later |
| 18:13.16 | Lunessa | Wobin: Spend some Stonekeeper shards on weapons and shoulders and don't worry about the rest much. |
| 18:13.28 | Lopeppeppy | I love leveling "healing spec", I'm such a masochist |
| 18:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: no good boa enhance weapons :( |
| 18:13.36 | Wobin | yeah |
| 18:13.59 | NightHawkTheSane | at best, there's the heartseeker, but thats hella fast. |
| 18:14.23 | Lunessa | bah. I've leveled a shaman in all three specs. Resto was hardest. Elemental wasn't bad with a spell power weapon and a decent shielf. |
| 18:14.26 | Lunessa | shield |
| 18:14.45 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, you definitely need a decent shelf as a shaman *nod* :P |
| 18:14.46 | Wobin | hm, are there BoA shields? |
| 18:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | also, no :( |
| 18:14.51 | Wobin | I don't think I ever noticed... |
| 18:15.01 | NightHawkTheSane | makes my poor level 20 prot warrior cry |
| 18:15.09 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: I prefer to say "A shaman needs a good rack!" |
| 18:15.18 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOM's a good rack. |
| 18:15.23 | Wobin | I -know-! |
| 18:15.35 | Wobin | Genetics, you see |
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| 18:15.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 18:15.46 | NightHawkTheSane | does that mean YOU have a good rack too? |
| 18:15.50 | NightHawkTheSane | eyes Wobin |
| 18:15.50 | Wobin | no |
| 18:16.07 | Wobin | She doesn't inherit genes from -me- =P |
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| 18:16.26 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 18:16.40 | NightHawkTheSane | if she has a good rack, and you inherit genes from her... |
| 18:16.56 | NightHawkTheSane | you appear to also be saying that your grandmother has a good rack |
| 18:16.58 | Wobin | Maybe one day, if I ever get moobs, they'll be epic ones |
| 18:17.19 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: I do believe that my grandma was something of a babe in her day |
| 18:17.35 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough |
| 18:18.36 | Thunder_Child | are you saying she is no longer a babe? |
| 18:18.39 | Lunessa | Wobin: If you end up with moobs, no one wants to see. |
| 18:18.51 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane apparently does! >< |
| 18:19.03 | Wobin | he's been eyeing me |
| 18:19.38 | NightHawkTheSane | no, only if you had a nice rack. that would not be a nice rack. |
| 18:20.39 | Thunder_Child | in S6 do you still get arena points if you lose every game? |
| 18:20.49 | Wobin | Anyway, unless my metabolism suddenly self destructs, it's not going to happen in the near future |
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| 18:23.30 | kneeki | That would be amazing if Rawr made a WoW addon (of course have limited functionality) that would do what it does in a basic way |
| 18:24.34 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 18:24.41 | kneeki | i know rite!? |
| 18:24.43 | Kirov | I've thought about what would go in to that. |
| 18:24.43 | Lunessa | considering how much I agonize over every gear change, every enchant and every gem... Yeah, it would. |
| 18:25.10 | kneeki | it would also eliminate the ALT-TAB issues |
| 18:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd be happy if they just quit using .net and made a nice solid web app. |
| 18:25.14 | Kirov | You could do some basic stuff for gear etc. |
| 18:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | also, given that pawn already exists, all you really need is something to generate a pawn string from rawr values. |
| 18:25.57 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8865150490&sid=1 <-Behold, EU was allowed some WoWMatrix drama too |
| 18:26.00 | Kirov | Personally I play with two screens with WoW windowed / maximized |
| 18:26.03 | kneeki | NightHawkTheSane, Yeah |
| 18:26.24 | kneeki | Kirov, I use dual monitors as well. But it would still be really nice |
| 18:26.40 | kneeki | Such a project is beyond me however |
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| 18:29.26 | Wobin | wow Fisker- |
| 18:29.31 | Wobin | You have a REPUTATION on the boards! |
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| 18:33.56 | Wobin | meh |
| 18:34.03 | Wobin | I'm not going to read taht thread anymore |
| 18:34.12 | Wobin | WM drama faded out days ago, and I was happy =P |
| 18:34.21 | Lopeppeppy | I know, it's awesome. |
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| 18:34.33 | mikma | lolo, denmark - finland : 0 - 1 |
| 18:35.00 | Wobin | Now all that's left is the amusement from Arrowmaster when he dumps the latest version for new exceptions to their rules |
| 18:35.31 | mikma | arrowmaster: do it. |
| 18:35.48 | mikma | http://toutube.com/ |
| 18:35.54 | mikma | i misspelled youtube and end up there |
| 18:37.07 | mikma | arrowmaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUZGdi7Ty4 |
| 18:37.47 | mikma | oh, this is cute |
| 18:37.48 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmfDD1ERbfY |
| 18:38.00 | mikma | now on the edge of Pigflu |
| 18:38.34 | Fisker- | in what mikma? |
| 18:39.06 | mikma | oh you'll know |
| 18:39.09 | Fisker- | :(? |
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| 18:39.50 | mikma | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigflu |
| 18:40.01 | Kazie | If you nuke the heart all the way, in one nuke, will the adds spawn every 25% on XT-002 Deconstructor? |
| 18:40.01 | mikma | http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950 |
| 18:40.18 | mikma | fisker-: enjoy ^---- |
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| 18:41.04 | Fisker- | "oh no swine flu!" |
| 18:41.16 | Fisker- | i am so scared |
| 18:41.29 | dolseni_ | i gave your mother the swine flu |
| 18:41.34 | mikma | be, very very scared. |
| 18:41.36 | dolseni_ | its kinda like jungle fever |
| 18:41.47 | mikma | emiliano torrini, jungle druuuuuum |
| 18:44.33 | Wobin | oh no |
| 18:44.40 | Wobin | four people might have brought it back to australia |
| 18:44.45 | Fisker- | shit |
| 18:44.49 | Fisker- | you better kill yourself now |
| 18:44.53 | mikma | no no |
| 18:44.59 | mikma | first you kill fisker-, then yourself |
| 18:45.03 | Fisker- | Instead of being subject to the excruciating pain when you get infected |
| 18:45.04 | Lopeppeppy | No, U |
| 18:45.06 | Fisker- | nah mikma |
| 18:45.10 | mikma | you can also feed him to koala's |
| 18:45.10 | Fisker- | i plan on killing myself later today |
| 18:45.19 | mikma | fisker-: let me know how it goes |
| 18:45.39 | Fisker- | ~roulette |
| 18:45.39 | purl | ACTION watches fisker- pull the trigger: Click! |
| 18:45.42 | Fisker- | bad |
| 18:45.46 | mikma | ~tryme |
| 18:45.46 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face |
| 18:45.58 | Fisker- | ~tryme |
| 18:45.58 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at fisker- and fires. Click. |
| 18:46.04 | Fisker- | still no dice |
| 18:46.12 | Wobin | ~tryme |
| 18:46.12 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at wobin and fires. Click. |
| 18:46.39 | Fisker- | ~tryme |
| 18:46.39 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at fisker- and fires. Click. |
| 18:49.17 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.geekologie.com/2009/04/crossing_the_line_bacon_flavor.php |
| 18:49.33 | Fisker- | ~tryme |
| 18:49.34 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at fisker- and fires. Click. |
| 18:49.53 | theorbtwo | ~tryme |
| 18:49.53 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at theorbtwo and fires. BANG! |
| 18:50.15 | theorbtwo | takes 5k damage. |
| 18:50.20 | theorbtwo | falls over. |
| 18:50.34 | Fisker- | why can't i just die? |
| 18:51.09 | dolseni_ | http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1894028,00.html |
| 18:51.17 | dolseni_ | moot has been declared the 3rd most influential person in the world |
| 18:54.08 | Fisker- | it's a fail |
| 18:54.12 | foxlit | "99.99%. That's repeating of course." |
| 18:54.17 | foxlit | Stupid console. |
| 18:55.12 | NightHawkTheSane | cries |
| 18:56.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I just spent a day and a half debugging my code, digging into library code, trying to figure out what was wrong, only to realize I was incorrectly overwriting an inherited method. :( |
| 18:56.23 | foxlit | Grats! |
| 18:56.25 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/100645865 |
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| 19:02.52 | mikma | http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1240829029611.gif |
| 19:03.30 | Fisker- | SFW gif on my /gif/? |
| 19:03.42 | Shirik | ~lart mikma |
| 19:03.42 | purl | whacks mikma with the cluebat |
| 19:04.55 | mikma | SFW gif, yes |
| 19:04.59 | mikma | shirik likes it |
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| 19:05.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but that's shirik |
| 19:05.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
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| 19:05.30 | Fisker- | btw Shirik |
| 19:05.34 | Fisker- | http://i39.tinypic.com/2n83pjp.jpg <-i divided by zero |
| 19:06.09 | Shirik | looks more like you suck at holding a camera |
| 19:06.11 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5229190/in-poland-pismo-swiete--holy-bible |
| 19:06.16 | Fisker- | nah Shirik |
| 19:06.19 | Fisker- | it was an earthquake |
| 19:06.33 | Lunessa | Who was it that said "Blackholes are where God divided by Zero"? |
| 19:06.34 | Shirik | your camera causes earthquakes? |
| 19:06.46 | Shirik | rofl Lunessa |
| 19:06.55 | Shirik | sadly, that makes sense |
| 19:07.02 | foxlit | But God is everywhere. At the same time. |
| 19:07.30 | foxlit | Clearly if the division by Zero ever occurred, it everything should be a black hole. |
| 19:07.31 | Lopeppeppy | With cheese |
| 19:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: everything IS a black hole.. of intelligence. |
| 19:08.49 | Lopeppeppy | wants her dragons to grow up... |
| 19:08.59 | Shirik | grows up |
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| 19:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! Pikachu, I choose you |
| 19:09.27 | Shirik | uses tackle! |
| 19:09.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 19:09.38 | Lopeppeppy | ... is that bad? |
| 19:09.49 | Shirik | It is super effective! |
| 19:09.54 | Lunessa | foxlit: I am the Alpha and the Omega. I came from out of the bag, but no bag was over me. I can successfully divide by zero. |
| 19:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ................................ |
| 19:10.15 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, do not question the effectiveness of a geek, he'll gut you where you stand. |
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| 19:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: that image amuses me |
| 19:10.42 | Thunder_Child | like lotr really needed to be in that Lunessa..... |
| 19:10.43 | Lopeppeppy | Being gutted? |
| 19:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat070391.html |
| 19:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: the attempt |
| 19:10.53 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: The Hobbit, noob. |
| 19:11.08 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, tackles |
| 19:11.12 | NightHawkTheSane | this headline amuses the crap out of me: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/04/27/its-like-the-worst-sim-city-game-ever |
| 19:11.17 | kizzle | Anyone able to help me with a little for loop problem? :) |
| 19:11.31 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, yes i know what book it came from but it is all part of lotr in my head |
| 19:11.41 | Lopeppeppy | Sure, kizzle, post your code in the pastey, and then link it so people can look. |
| 19:11.52 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'll forgive you this time. |
| 19:12.15 | kizzle | Will do Lopeppeppy |
| 19:12.19 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, if it makes you feel better i think of the hobbit > the other books |
| 19:12.51 | NightHawkTheSane | also, totally sfw: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/04/27/centaur-fetishists-rejoice |
| 19:12.54 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Because The Hobbit was written as a story, and the other novels were written to be linguistic exploration. |
| 19:14.21 | kizzle | http://pastey.net/113171 <-- I cant make the loop work, it never returns true, even if I do have the buff. Removing the for line and the last end line and swapping i with 1 makes it work, but I cant be sure the buff is always at the #1 buff position. So a working for loop is easier. |
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| 19:14.39 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: If I gave you a certificate chain, do you think you could tell me why Java doesn't trust it? |
| 19:14.49 | Shirik | openssl seems to trust it |
| 19:14.58 | ScytheBlade1 | no idea |
| 19:15.16 | Shirik | I was thinking maybe it was a missing extension or something |
| 19:15.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I've honestly never touched most of the java crypto stuff |
| 19:15.57 | Shirik | it sucks as far as I can tell |
| 19:16.09 | Lunessa | kizzle: YOu might want to post the rest of the code, the error might reside outside the loop. |
| 19:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | !api UnitAura |
| 19:16.50 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'UnitAura' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura |
| 19:16.51 | foxlit | Or, of course, it might be the loop. |
| 19:17.08 | kizzle | It is the loop itself. |
| 19:17.10 | foxlit | s/be/*be*/ |
| 19:17.12 | Lunessa | foxlit: True dat, I skimmed. :P |
| 19:17.25 | kizzle | As I said, if I change i to 1, and remove the for loop. It works like a charm. |
| 19:17.39 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: Tauren much? |
| 19:17.42 | ReAn[Laptop] | Shirik, is it co-signed? |
| 19:17.55 | Shirik | I told Java a CA to trust |
| 19:18.01 | Shirik | however, as far as I can tell, it's completely ignoring that CA |
| 19:18.07 | ReAn[Laptop] | hrm |
| 19:18.15 | ReAn[Laptop] | javafail |
| 19:18.39 | foxlit | less time on crypto, more time releasing. |
| 19:18.41 | foxlit | kthx! |
| 19:19.26 | Lunessa | foxlit: Totally. /facepalm Name = first return, not 8th. |
| 19:19.56 | Lunessa | goes in search of additional caffeine. |
| 19:20.28 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8865150485&postId=88639241870&sid=1#23 <-fail |
| 19:20.41 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tshirthell.com//shirts/products/a1236/a1236_new.gif |
| 19:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | kizzle: have you declared wgcontrol anywhere else? |
| 19:21.39 | foxlit | You're all overcomplicating things |
| 19:21.44 | foxlit | The obvious error is obvious. |
| 19:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
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| 19:23.22 | ReAn[Laptop] | Shirik, i've been pouring over the api looking for something that might explain why it's missing, but im at a loss, sorry :( |
| 19:23.52 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/113174 << run that, be amazed. |
| 19:24.36 | ReAn[Laptop] | foxlit, that code will be broken on any locale other than enUS / enGB |
| 19:24.50 | ReAn[Laptop] | but the basic idea is the same |
| 19:25.10 | foxlit | ReAn[Laptop]: I don't particularly care; that is not the point. |
| 19:25.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | well, it's worth mentioning to whomever you're helping |
| 19:25.46 | ReAn[Laptop] | which is who btw? |
| 19:26.20 | foxlit | One step at a time. kizzle. |
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| 19:32.44 | Dashkal | oh there is hope: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-promises-major-apf-15039606.html?.v=3 (Obama promises at least 3% of the GDP towards science R&D) |
| 19:33.09 | foxlit | is science R&D a subset of military R&D? |
| 19:33.40 | Dashkal | now now, the dems are in power. They like to pretend otherwise |
| 19:33.49 | Dashkal | </inflamatory> |
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| 19:39.10 | ckknight | foxlit: seems like a superset, but that's irrelevant, since military technology can be applied to general life anyway |
| 19:39.32 | Lunessa | needs a new foum .sig. |
| 19:39.46 | Lopeppeppy | STFU noobs, I'm trying to get the fishing achievement! :) |
| 19:40.01 | foxlit | I suppose that what I really wanted to determine was whether there were projects that could be classified as both. |
| 19:40.08 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, yes |
| 19:40.35 | Thunder_Child | DARPA is mill only but it also contracts out |
| 19:40.45 | Thunder_Child | the mill that is, not DARPA |
| 19:41.01 | Lunessa | foxlit: Many, many fields have projects which can and will be classified as both "civilian" and "military." |
| 19:41.19 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: That's a good one. :) |
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| 19:41.58 | foxlit | But who runs (and ultimately pays) for the projects? Some civilian organization, or the military? |
| 19:42.21 | Thunder_Child | both |
| 19:42.28 | Lopeppeppy | yES |
| 19:42.36 | Lunessa | foxlit: Often both. Science happens. |
| 19:42.43 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, it's covered in irony, I thought you might appreciate it. |
| 19:42.57 | Thunder_Child | sometimes it's military when it's clasified. other times it's civ when they are allowed to use the tech for other things |
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| 19:43.22 | Lunessa | Like superglues - military medical research on ways to close wounds in combat to save the lives of soldiers. |
| 19:43.46 | foxlit | So, then, what is the faction of the US GDP already spent on military R&D? :) |
| 19:45.08 | Thunder_Child | it's part of the 3% of the mil budget |
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| 19:46.11 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474154333&sid=1 is the best thread. |
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| 19:48.47 | kizzle | Oh yeah, I have wgcontrol defined somewhere else ;) |
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| 20:07.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hm,test. |
| 20:07.50 | Lopeppeppy | No |
| 20:08.00 | duaiwe | no? :( |
| 20:08.26 | NightHawkTheSane | is futzing with a different irc client. :P |
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| 20:14.19 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, what was the mode to only get private messages from registered users? |
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| 20:15.37 | Lopeppeppy | Crud, I don't remember.... |
| 20:17.04 | tekkub | mode? freenode just doesn't let them pm |
| 20:17.14 | tekkub | the non-registered one |
| 20:17.18 | tekkub | *s |
| 20:17.31 | NightHawkTheSane | hm.. |
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| 20:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | and yet, freenode's website says they support the +E user mode.. http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 20:18.00 | NightHawkTheSane | which does just that |
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| 20:31.39 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: I have used it in the past |
| 20:31.42 | Shirik | and it works fine |
| 20:31.50 | Shirik | tekkub: They only block them in times of known spam |
| 20:32.02 | tekkub | oh |
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| 20:41.05 | Lunessa | Interesting: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html Not that I think Time is a good news source, but still interesting. |
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| 20:45.16 | zenzelezz | Time is like Britney Spears. By and large you may not like it, but occasionally it comes up with something okay |
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| 20:54.11 | Etanol | Anybody who's on a linux machine atm? |
| 20:54.23 | Trela | I sort of am. |
| 20:54.44 | geargrind | Etanol: does ssh count? |
| 20:55.40 | amro | Etanol: yep |
| 20:55.46 | Etanol | geargrind: you mean you are sshing into your computer at home remotely? |
| 20:55.59 | Etanol | amro: how's wined wow? |
| 20:56.15 | amro | perfect |
| 20:56.17 | geargrind | Etanol: aye |
| 20:56.19 | amro | only thing that's missing is shadows |
| 20:56.39 | geargrind | and yeah... wow on wine is secks |
| 20:56.59 | Etanol | amro: I have wow on a separate partition that I do not want to touch when I install linux, does that matter when trying to wine into wow? |
| 20:57.15 | amro | not a lot |
| 20:57.23 | Etanol | I mean, does wow have to be in the .wine/ directories? |
| 20:57.28 | amro | no |
| 20:57.34 | Etanol | oki nice |
| 20:57.36 | amro | it can be anywhere, as long as you have access to i |
| 20:57.37 | amro | t |
| 20:57.44 | geargrind | even if it did couldn't you just symlink? |
| 20:57.48 | Etanol | It's not easy to break free from windows :P |
| 20:57.56 | Etanol | geargrind: what's symlink? |
| 20:58.23 | geargrind | symbolic link... sort of like a shortcut |
| 20:58.45 | amro | but better :) |
| 20:58.52 | Etanol | you mean like mount? |
| 20:58.57 | geargrind | no |
| 20:58.57 | amro | no |
| 20:59.01 | geargrind | google it :P |
| 20:59.05 | Etanol | on it |
| 21:00.15 | Etanol | what would I do with that? :P |
| 21:00.31 | Etanol | make the wine command shorter or? ;P |
| 21:00.56 | Etanol | aha, you mean like.. trick wine that wow is in the wine dirs? |
| 21:01.18 | geargrind | yep |
| 21:01.33 | kneeki | If hardware cursor worked on Wine & Linux, I'd use it exclusivly |
| 21:01.39 | kneeki | But, it doesn't; so I don't. |
| 21:03.39 | Etanol | geargrind,amro: linux version? |
| 21:04.21 | amro | currently I'm on the latest kubuntu, but it works just fine elsewhere |
| 21:04.27 | amro | Etanol: what's your graphics card? |
| 21:04.37 | Etanol | geforce 8800GTS 320mb |
| 21:05.13 | amro | you should be fine then. if you install graphics drivers properly you shouldn't have any trouble |
| 21:05.29 | Etanol | I'd miss photoshop though |
| 21:05.37 | Etanol | or, CS4.. I think CS2 is wineable |
| 21:05.38 | amro | dual boot? |
| 21:05.38 | kneeki | Etanol, use Photoshop + Wine |
| 21:05.44 | geargrind | Etanol: i play wow on windows right now. i'm just speaking from past experience (my home server probably wouldn't play wow for crap unless i make the window like 300x400) |
| 21:06.01 | kneeki | Etanol, Also, you do not have to 'reinstall' WoW to play it on Linux&Wine |
| 21:06.16 | kneeki | Etanol, wine "path\Launcher.exe" |
| 21:06.20 | Etanol | kneeki: I figured, that's why I am keeping my game partition :) |
| 21:06.26 | Etanol | no special wine hacks? |
| 21:06.36 | kneeki | I run WoW on my linux box while WoW is on an NTFS drive that I use for Ubuntu & Windows |
| 21:06.37 | geargrind | not for the last couple years :) |
| 21:06.39 | kneeki | None at all |
| 21:06.48 | kneeki | Just make sure you run WoW in OpenGL |
| 21:07.06 | kneeki | Once you do, you'll realize the problem. No shadows, and no hardware cursor |
| 21:07.12 | mikma | kneeki: whats the deal with hardware mouse? |
| 21:07.39 | kneeki | mikma, Blizzard coded OpenGL on MacOS and DirectX on Windows with hardware cursor, but not OpenGL on Windows |
| 21:07.54 | kneeki | which is what Wine & Linux is, in WoW's eyes anyway |
| 21:08.23 | kneeki | Once you enter a graphics entensive location, like a raid, or in Dalaran, you'll notice the lack of hardware cursor =( |
| 21:08.26 | mikma | kneeki: so mouse doesnt work? |
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| 21:08.33 | kneeki | It works, just not well |
| 21:08.47 | Etanol | are you using kde or gde? |
| 21:08.48 | kneeki | If you can remember, shortly after WoW was released, the same issue was abound |
| 21:09.04 | kneeki | I use Gnome, not KDE, but I would assume the same issue would arise |
| 21:09.14 | Etanol | yeah, but I am trying to decide ^^ |
| 21:09.30 | kneeki | Etanol, i've never used KDE, I really should give it a shot, just to experience it |
| 21:10.08 | Etanol | kneeki: are you using GTK+? |
| 21:10.13 | haste | it works just ine under wine here |
| 21:10.23 | kneeki | Etanol, Yeah, I think so |
| 21:10.26 | haste | and how does a UI toolkit have anything to do with hardware cursor? |
| 21:10.33 | Etanol | not at all :) |
| 21:10.37 | kneeki | haste, hardware cursor doesn't |
| 21:10.45 | haste | too much text then! |
| 21:10.55 | haste | I don't see why you would need hardware cursor either :p |
| 21:11.03 | kneeki | read the above |
| 21:11.03 | haste | then again I haven't ever played with it |
| 21:11.07 | kneeki | Once you enter a graphics entensive location, like a raid, or in Dalaran, you'll notice the lack of hardware cursor =( |
| 21:11.23 | haste | how do you notice it? |
| 21:11.29 | kneeki | the mouse will lag, horribly |
| 21:11.41 | haste | it doesn't here at least ':D/ |
| 21:12.05 | foxlit | I believe the net effect is that the mouse cursor cannot be redrawn until your next frame is unless hardware cursor is on |
| 21:12.13 | kneeki | hmm |
| 21:12.39 | kneeki | haste, what distro, using wine? |
| 21:12.48 | foxlit | So if you're looking at 3fps, your mouse will move at 3fps. Hardware cursor mitigates that by allowing the graphics card to apply the cursor to an old frame image, making sure the cursor is more responsive, even if the rendering isn't. |
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| 21:13.11 | kneeki | foxlit, Ah! That does make a lot of sense |
| 21:13.46 | kneeki | Still, sad that Blizz has not coded it |
| 21:13.50 | kd3 | lol. "Reading the map is very simple: <s>We are all going to die</s> The pink markers are suspect, the ..." |
| 21:13.57 | kd3 | http://gizmodo.com/5229314/follow-the-swine-flu-in-real-time-with-google-maps |
| 21:14.47 | Etanol | haha |
| 21:14.47 | kneeki | But really, I freak out if the game is not on max settings at all time |
| 21:15.04 | kneeki | It's a horrible niche for me ever since I got into overclocking & so forth |
| 21:15.14 | Etanol | why doesn't wine support dx9 then? |
| 21:15.19 | haste | kneeki: gentoo, with paludis, gcc 4.3 and wine from git |
| 21:15.24 | kneeki | Etanol, Because M$ |
| 21:15.41 | kneeki | haste, what's your FPS in Dalaran, at a bank or so with many people around? |
| 21:15.45 | amro | kneeki: are you compliin wine with optimizations? |
| 21:16.07 | haste | kneeki: 80 now during 10-man kologar |
| 21:16.10 | kneeki | amro, I've never compiled wine. Just got it from 'apt-get' or 'add-remove...' |
| 21:16.49 | amro | you'll want to compile it with optimizations then |
| 21:16.51 | amro | much faster |
| 21:16.54 | Etanol | kneeki: so http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/28/1843246 is just BS then? |
| 21:17.21 | haste | Etanol: it isn't, but it doesn't work that great for most dx9 games |
| 21:17.26 | kneeki | amro, hmmmm... I've never compiled before |
| 21:17.30 | Etanol | :/ |
| 21:17.44 | amro | kneeki: there's a guide for ubuntu somewhere I'm sure |
| 21:17.48 | amro | you just have to copy and paste :P |
| 21:17.53 | Etanol | haste, how do you start wow? |
| 21:18.05 | haste | Etanol: wine wow -opengl -nosound |
| 21:18.16 | Etanol | aha |
| 21:18.27 | amro | :O nosound |
| 21:18.28 | Etanol | so "wow" is a symlink? |
| 21:18.29 | amro | blasphemy! |
| 21:18.35 | haste | no |
| 21:18.39 | haste | wine figures it out |
| 21:18.48 | Etanol | aha... |
| 21:18.48 | Etanol | how? |
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| 21:19.13 | Etanol | amro: nosound is a given for me (EVEN THOUGH humans' death sound is sexii) |
| 21:19.17 | kneeki | Etanol, hmm |
| 21:19.35 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/113182 <-- my wow startup script |
| 21:19.52 | Dashkal | Hrm, I should check if wow's sound still conflicts with KDEs sound code. KDE 4.2 might get along better |
| 21:20.06 | kd3 | I've got wow in a different wineprefix so other crap doesn't interfere (like steam's crap) |
| 21:20.07 | geargrind | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17003 |
| 21:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | If you're running KDE 3.5s audio engine, whatever it is |
| 21:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Kill it dead |
| 21:20.25 | kd3 | dash; kill aRts.. |
| 21:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 21:20.31 | ScytheBlade1 | kill it with fire |
| 21:20.32 | Dashkal | I should be running nothing but 4.2 stuff now |
| 21:20.35 | kd3 | nuke it from orbit |
| 21:20.41 | Etanol | hahaha |
| 21:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | don't be TOO sure. You may have a 3.5 app around that starts all of it up |
| 21:20.54 | Dashkal | no arts, just pulseaudio |
| 21:21.00 | ScytheBlade1 | For example, khexedit is still 3.5 only |
| 21:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | sighs |
| 21:21.05 | kd3 | wine+pulse is kinda iffy still |
| 21:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | very iffy, go direct through alsa if you can |
| 21:21.30 | Dashkal | which I'm not entirely fond of. Killing pulse was the only way to get sound working in 4.1. And killing pulse was too costly (it made firefox/flash fail to see sound at all) |
| 21:21.30 | kd3 | it works okay if I'm only listening to vent+wow, but trying to use my mic breaks things |
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| 21:21.48 | kd3 | pasuspender wine WoW.exe |
| 21:21.55 | kd3 | or whatever it's called |
| 21:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | sounds familiar |
| 21:22.18 | ScytheBlade1 | pasus[tab] wine Wow.exe |
| 21:22.32 | haste | Etanol: it searches for exe files |
| 21:22.38 | Dashkal | pasuspender |
| 21:22.41 | Dashkal | what a bizarre name |
| 21:22.48 | Etanol | haste: only in the wine directory tree? |
| 21:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | pulse audio suspender isn't that bizarre |
| 21:23.02 | Etanol | haste: and doesn't that search take a while? |
| 21:23.11 | haste | Etanol: it's in the folder ofc :p |
| 21:23.16 | Dashkal | *clicks* PA Suspender. oops |
| 21:23.23 | haste | Etanol: not like it seraches PATH or anything |
| 21:23.27 | haste | which btw don't take taht long |
| 21:23.35 | Etanol | haste: ??? |
| 21:23.50 | Etanol | haste: where does it search? |
| 21:24.02 | Dashkal | still, the cost of losing flash sound is too high, I'd rather go without wow sound than my music :p |
| 21:24.39 | haste | Etanol: pwd |
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| 21:24.59 | Etanol | ...pwd? |
| 21:25.11 | haste | currend working directory |
| 21:25.14 | kd3 | the working directory |
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| 21:25.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:25.20 | haste | kinda healing on kologar atm! |
| 21:25.25 | Etanol | which is variable? :S |
| 21:25.42 | Etanol | oh wait nvm |
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| 21:25.50 | Shirik | I have returned! |
| 21:25.59 | Etanol | were you in jail? |
| 21:26.07 | kneeki | Etanol, I think that is just the same thing Wine has always done. Until M$ releases DirectX to the public, I don't ever see it coming fully to Wine |
| 21:26.07 | foxlit | Did you return with what we asked of you? :) |
| 21:26.26 | kd3 | meh. it's all a function of reverse engineering, which takes time |
| 21:26.38 | kneeki | ^ yeah |
| 21:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | pats -opengl |
| 21:27.59 | haste | pats -nosound. |
| 21:28.05 | Shirik | pats -console |
| 21:28.28 | Etanol | pats -novideo |
| 21:28.33 | haste | pats +game action. |
| 21:28.41 | Shirik | lol @ -novideo |
| 21:28.41 | foxlit | pats -- |
| 21:28.44 | Josh_Borke | pats his leg |
| 21:29.01 | haste | I like mplayer -nosound also! |
| 21:29.07 | Cairenn | Cidan: ping? |
| 21:29.14 | Dashkal | heh, there's a nosound? mplayer -ao null |
| 21:29.20 | Etanol | nosound is awesome for most games... I really hate the sound in wow, too :P |
| 21:29.41 | Dashkal | I live (unfortunately) on a pvp server. Sound is pretty much required |
| 21:30.07 | Dashkal | Whoosh... *bloodboil* |
| 21:30.18 | Etanol | why is sound required? |
| 21:30.28 | Dashkal | "Whoosh..." -> Stealth sound |
| 21:30.53 | Etanol | nameplates enable please |
| 21:30.56 | Etanol | ;) |
| 21:31.09 | foxlit | I vote you monitor the amount of players around to by watching the volume of network activity! |
| 21:31.46 | Dashkal | Is a stealthed rogue even sent to the client? |
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| 21:32.02 | kneeki | Dashkal, No |
| 21:32.07 | Dashkal | Didn't think so |
| 21:32.29 | kneeki | Dashkal, Which is why pre WotLK, rogues could kill you before coming out of stealth and showing th emselfs |
| 21:32.43 | kneeki | the amount of burst damage done was higher than the time it took to transmit info -_- |
| 21:32.51 | Dashkal | Oh I know that one well |
| 21:32.54 | foxlit | But something has to be sent to the client to make the whoosh sound! |
| 21:33.15 | kneeki | foxlit, Yeah, the server sends that |
| 21:33.20 | Dashkal | foxlit: whoosh is when your client actually sees the rogue, either when they stealth or when they get into your detection range |
| 21:33.25 | foxlit | Ergo, watching traffic == works. |
| 21:33.27 | kneeki | foxlit, which is the same thing with the damage being done, it takes time |
| 21:33.34 | Dashkal | A rogue perfectly approaching from behind will give no clue whatsoever |
| 21:33.43 | kneeki | ^ |
| 21:33.47 | foxlit | So sound would give you no advantage in that case. |
| 21:33.53 | Dashkal | except of course cheapshot, ss, ss, stun, stun, ss, evis, dead |
| 21:33.53 | foxlit | Which makes the entire discussion pointless. |
| 21:34.12 | Dashkal | um, not really. sound is much simpler and doesn't violate the eula |
| 21:34.14 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 21:34.14 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 21:34.22 | Cairenn | hugs Josh_Borke |
| 21:35.02 | foxlit | If watching the volume of network traffic is against the EULA, everyone broke it at the moment they opened the task manager with WoW running :) |
| 21:35.07 | Etanol | Dashkal: I don't think monitoring bandwidth violoates the EULA |
| 21:35.29 | foxlit | But you're over thinking things: I don't expect my ridiculous suggestions to work. |
| 21:35.58 | Dashkal | Etanol: You're not allowed to run any network monitoring tool whatsoever according to that over-reaching thing |
| 21:38.00 | Etanol | Dashkal: then task manager and windows sidebar violates the EULA... since they both can monitor the traffic |
| 21:38.43 | Dashkal | Etanol: Neither the task manager nor the windows sidebar give traffic in enough detail to detect a rogue coming. |
| 21:38.58 | Dashkal | Though honestly? I suspect they technically do |
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| 21:55.43 | Etanol | swine wow.exe -noflue |
| 22:01.58 | Etanol | Addon description: Analyze author-generated arrays and integrate the performance-based instruction protocols! |
| 22:02.15 | Shirik | huh? |
| 22:03.39 | Ackis | has the swine flue. |
| 22:03.49 | batrick | seriously? |
| 22:03.54 | Ackis | (litterally, the doc said I have the flu, and my gf calls me a pig all the time) |
| 22:04.03 | batrick | bad joke! |
| 22:04.53 | Etanol | http://xkcd.com/574/ |
| 22:05.17 | foxlit | Meh |
| 22:05.22 | foxlit | It's a human-to-human transmitted virus |
| 22:05.33 | Dashkal | just now noticed that Hanners was in that one |
| 22:05.35 | Legorol | why does SendChatMessage tell me: Chat message must be UTF-8 text? |
| 22:05.41 | Legorol | and how do I send an item link via SendChatMessage? |
| 22:06.13 | foxlit | Legorol: probably attempts to validate UTF-8 to make sure clients do not crash horribly. |
| 22:06.14 | Legorol | i tried: SendChatMessage("blah blah \128cffa335ee\128Hitem:45085\128h[Titansteel Spellblade]\128h\128r blah blah","CHANNEL",nil,2) |
| 22:06.39 | Legorol | if anyone has a suggestion on how i could put item links in a macro to spam in trade chat, that's welcome too |
| 22:06.49 | Legorol | i tried to solve it via SendChatMessage like that |
| 22:07.06 | foxlit | And you're sure that \128 is what you mean? |
| 22:07.11 | foxlit | lua> print(string.char(128)); |
| 22:07.12 | lua_bot | foxlit: |
| 22:07.40 | KarlKFI | lua> print(string.char(127)) |
| 22:07.40 | lua_bot | KarlKFI: |
| 22:07.44 | KarlKFI | lua> print(string.char(129)) |
| 22:07.44 | lua_bot | KarlKFI: |
| 22:07.53 | KarlKFI | those chars dont render here... fail |
| 22:08.00 | foxlit | But long story short, \128 is a multi-char marker for UTF8 |
| 22:08.09 | foxlit | Or even reserved altogether |
| 22:08.31 | Etanol | lua> print(string.char(124)); |
| 22:08.31 | lua_bot | Etanol: | |
| 22:08.48 | Legorol | ooh i mean 124, don't i |
| 22:08.49 | Legorol | d'oh |
| 22:08.51 | Legorol | that'd explain a lot |
| 22:08.56 | Etanol | \124cffa335ee\124Hitem:39140:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h[Knife of Incision]\124h\124r |
| 22:09.50 | Legorol | right, i knew i'm missing something :) |
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| 22:11.49 | Etanol | working on some secret pentagon addon project? |
| 22:13.27 | Shirik | Sigh |
| 22:13.49 | Shirik | Is it sad, as I'm reading this article, it talks about how officials are discussing how swine flu cases outside of mexico seem to be milder, and they're trying to figure out why |
| 22:13.57 | Shirik | that I start thinking up statistical tests that could be used to prove this argument? |
| 22:14.46 | Etanol | sounds like fun |
| 22:15.01 | Etanol | what kind if statistics would you harvest? |
| 22:15.22 | Shirik | Well I was more thinking of the tests first |
| 22:15.31 | Etanol | hm? |
| 22:15.40 | Shirik | Though it's fairly obvious a good choice would be a t-test if you can quantify "lethality" |
| 22:16.35 | Shirik | Null hypothesis: Lethality in US and Mexico are equal; Alternative hypothesis: Lethality in Mexico is higher |
| 22:16.42 | Shirik | but how do you measure "Lethality" |
| 22:16.55 | foxlit | deaths per infections |
| 22:17.02 | Etanol | yea |
| 22:17.06 | Shirik | are there sufficient cases to do that? |
| 22:17.14 | Shirik | I thought it was pretty low for confirmed cases |
| 22:17.19 | Etanol | Well, there hasn't passed enough time to decide that IMO |
| 22:17.36 | Shirik | And maybe "Lethality" is bad |
| 22:17.39 | Shirik | "Severity" maybe |
| 22:17.50 | Etanol | Efficiency |
| 22:18.29 | foxlit | Severity has an even worse issue of determining an absolute scale |
| 22:18.52 | Shirik | yes but it's more what we want |
| 22:19.04 | foxlit | Is it? |
| 22:19.09 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 22:19.20 | theorbtwo | Lethality is pretty easy to define. If they were infected, and then become dead while still infected, it was lethal. Otherwise, it wasn't. |
| 22:19.22 | Shirik | I'm more interested in seeing if there's a difference between the US and Mexico |
| 22:19.31 | Shirik | not just necessarily deaths |
| 22:19.43 | theorbtwo | The real problem is that until they are dead or cured, you can't put them in a category. |
| 22:19.46 | foxlit | What sort of difference? |
| 22:20.16 | Shirik | One of the mysteries that scientists are trying to understand is why cases outside of Mexico appear to be milder. Swine flu in Mexico seems to be a much more virulent disease, even though genetic tests suggest that swine flu viruses there are identical, or nearly so, to those isolated from U.S. patients. |
| 22:20.18 | Shirik | That's from the article |
| 22:20.18 | foxlit | Considering the differences in the level of healthcare? |
| 22:20.51 | foxlit | "Environmental and cultural factors" sounds like a relatively decent answer. |
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| 22:23.22 | kd3 | whee... "WHO raises swine flu alert level" |
| 22:24.20 | foxlit | "... to orange" |
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| 22:24.37 | Shirik | yeah I saw that kd3 |
| 22:24.52 | Shirik | foxlit: At least WHO has somewhat reasonable standards on what the levels mean |
| 22:25.07 | Shirik | unlike "Orange" which is just "Above normal" |
| 22:25.11 | Shirik | wtf "normal" is is beyond me |
| 22:25.19 | Shirik | to me "normal" should be "Doesn't look like anything's happening" |
| 22:25.25 | Shirik | but then what's green? |
| 22:25.42 | Etanol | with the risk of sounding heartless, a world-wide pandemic WOULD be interesting... |
| 22:26.00 | Shirik | no it wouldn't |
| 22:26.04 | Shirik | how am I going to get to Washington |
| 22:26.15 | Etanol | you can stay home and watch Crank 2 instead ;> |
| 22:26.19 | Shirik | no :( |
| 22:26.23 | Shirik | I want money and experience |
| 22:26.29 | Etanol | "The current WHO phase of pandemic alert is 4." |
| 22:26.40 | kluge | no 5 |
| 22:26.43 | kluge | they raised it. |
| 22:26.47 | Shirik | again? |
| 22:26.51 | Shirik | They just raised it to 4... |
| 22:26.51 | Etanol | omg |
| 22:26.53 | kluge | i just heard it on cbc |
| 22:27.01 | kluge | they raised it to 5. 1 more and its 6, pandemic. |
| 22:27.04 | Etanol | 5 is pandemic... |
| 22:27.18 | kluge | ill check but i thought they said that |
| 22:27.27 | kd3 | http://www.who.int/en/ |
| 22:27.29 | kd3 | see for yourself |
| 22:27.33 | Shirik | Hm, it should be 5 |
| 22:27.33 | Etanol | let's hope it's not 5 |
| 22:27.35 | foxlit | "the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent" |
| 22:27.37 | Shirik | Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short. |
| 22:27.43 | theorbtwo | http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/phase/en/index.html |
| 22:27.45 | Shirik | It is in fact in two countries so |
| 22:27.59 | theorbtwo | Phase 4, straight from the horse's mouth. |
| 22:28.00 | foxlit | "Designation of [Phase 6] will indicate that a global pandemic is under way." |
| 22:28.20 | foxlit | " at least two countries in one WHO region" |
| 22:28.32 | foxlit | Shirik: so it really depends on what the regions are |
| 22:28.51 | Shirik | I assumed that Mexico and US were in the same region |
| 22:28.53 | Shirik | but I wouldn't know |
| 22:29.31 | theorbtwo | All of N and S America are one region, apparently: http://www.who.int/about/regions/en/index.html |
| 22:29.32 | kluge | it was just 10 minutes ago but it could be they reported it wrong. |
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| 22:30.24 | Etanol | residentevillol |
| 22:30.51 | kluge | they said phase 5 was sustained human to human contact in one country. |
| 22:31.48 | Etanol | At which phase does countries start shutting down borders and traffic? |
| 22:32.14 | Shirik | That's not up to WHO |
| 22:32.27 | kd3 | as soon as someone close to the prez gets infected? |
| 22:32.28 | kd3 | >.> |
| 22:32.33 | Etanol | (Also, I think the safest place now is madagascar) |
| 22:32.59 | Etanol | (I've lost Pandemic II many times because I didn't infect Madagascar) |
| 22:33.18 | kluge | im gonna get some tamaflu. |
| 22:33.35 | Shirik | I think safest place is Canadia |
| 22:33.41 | Shirik | nobody wants to go there |
| 22:33.45 | Etanol | haha |
| 22:33.46 | Shirik | and if you get sick, Cairenn will take care of you |
| 22:33.48 | Etanol | canada is awesome |
| 22:33.57 | kluge | i live sort of in the woods in canada. |
| 22:34.04 | kluge | its good |
| 22:34.09 | Etanol | kluge: ever shot a bear? |
| 22:34.13 | Dashkal | I'm toast. Right in the western seaport |
| 22:34.13 | kluge | ill get some tamaflu anyway. |
| 22:34.23 | kluge | lol no. one time when i was a kid, my uncle let me poke a dead mooses eye. |
| 22:34.28 | kluge | i didnt really want to hunt since then. |
| 22:34.36 | Etanol | haha ^^ |
| 22:36.44 | kluge | i saw a bear one time when i went for a walk. |
| 22:36.47 | kluge | happens once in a while. |
| 22:37.01 | kluge | from around 200m |
| 22:37.17 | kluge | but it was weird cuz it was winter and snowing |
| 22:37.22 | kluge | so i thought bears go sleep or something. |
| 22:37.57 | Etanol | weird |
| 22:38.39 | geargrind | http://i43.tinypic.com/2up2wpf.jpg |
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| 22:39.13 | Cairenn | Ackis: ... |
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| 22:47.14 | Nechckn_AFK | realizes he has not pet The Cairenn lately... |
| 22:47.25 | Nechckn_AFK | scratches Cairenn behind the ears |
| 22:47.26 | Cairenn | hugs the Nechckn_AFK |
| 22:47.36 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 22:47.37 | Nechckn_AFK | =) |
| 22:47.41 | sysrage | who's getting me a hooker for my birthday? |
| 22:48.13 | Nechckn_AFK | There is no challenge in that... work for it! |
| 22:48.35 | sysrage | work for a hooker? doesn't that completely defeat the point of them? |
| 22:48.41 | batrick | lol |
| 22:49.53 | sysrage | never directly paid for sex, but i sure have spent far more on my g/f for a whole lot more trouble |
| 22:51.29 | kluge | then obv she should get u the hooker. |
| 22:51.36 | sysrage | haha |
| 22:51.39 | sysrage | definitely |
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| 22:54.44 | Etanol | http://tinyurl.com/cu2dwz |
| 22:54.50 | Etanol | <3 google |
| 22:57.03 | sysrage | lol |
| 22:57.54 | Nechckn_AFK | well, that was more the point. Hookers have no inherent challenge, other than trying to avoid the litany of diseases that are likely present. ;-) |
| 23:04.26 | sysrage | fair enough. but it's my birthday. i have enough challenge already |
| 23:06.37 | Tuller | yay, armory guy is going to write bagnondb support |
| 23:07.02 | Etanol | I've got a vote to my madagascar theory. :> |
| 23:07.03 | Etanol | http://echochamber.me/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=38475#p1531513 |
| 23:09.01 | Dashkal | snickers, the hanners tweet was real |
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| 23:15.08 | Shirik | Notepad is strange |
| 23:15.14 | Shirik | If you turn off word wrap, it still wraps after a while |
| 23:15.26 | Shirik | If it's one really really long line, it eventually just gives up and wraps it anyway |
| 23:15.46 | ScytheBlade1 | notepad, despite being made of awesome and win |
| 23:15.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Is kinda fail |
| 23:15.56 | Shirik | awesome and win? |
| 23:16.26 | Shirik | unfortunately, internet explorer insists on using notepad to view source |
| 23:16.34 | Shirik | I wish it would pick my normal text editor, vim |
| 23:16.35 | ScytheBlade1 | you can change that |
| 23:16.38 | Shirik | I can? |
| 23:16.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Tools --> Options |
| 23:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on one of the tabs |
| 23:17.00 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:17.02 | Shirik | options is greyed out |
| 23:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | sucker |
| 23:17.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Guess you can't |
| 23:17.15 | Shirik | and now it's not |
| 23:17.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:17.19 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | If nothing else, you are GREATLY entertaining :) |
| 23:17.35 | Shirik | It was greyed out! |
| 23:17.41 | Shirik | Then I click it again and it's all like "ok fine you win" |
| 23:18.13 | kd3 | is that like the 'override password' buttons the good guys use in all the movies? |
| 23:18.26 | Shirik | all I see is "Choose the program that you want Internet Explorer to use when editing HTML files" |
| 23:18.32 | Shirik | nothing for when you choose view source |
| 23:20.30 | Tuller | delete notepad.exe, replace with notepad++.exe? |
| 23:20.41 | Lunessa | Shirik: That's the option. |
| 23:21.42 | Shirik | vim > notepad++ |
| 23:23.56 | Lunessa | Notepad++ is luff |
| 23:26.10 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:26.12 | Shirik | I love my comments |
| 23:26.22 | Shirik | I got an uncaught exception in the program, so I go to look at where it occurred |
| 23:26.25 | Shirik | right above it: // TODO: Is it possible to have a name solely consisting of separators? |
| 23:26.33 | Shirik | Guess that's answered. |
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| 23:27.50 | Lunessa | This is why we don't let you play with explosives. |
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| 23:29.06 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:29.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun story |
| 23:30.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Went camping years ago, with my dad, brother, other male cousins |
| 23:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | The younger of us found an OLD, rusted can of creamed corn |
| 23:30.23 | ScytheBlade1 | We threw it in the fire and went fishing |
| 23:30.38 | ScytheBlade1 | 15 minutes later, we hear this gigantic explosion |
| 23:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And come back to see one very annoyed uncle who was sleeping in a hammoc, now covered in creamed corn |
| 23:32.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Explosives are fun, Shirik needs some :) |
| 23:32.28 | Shirik | Agree |
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| 23:42.46 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Tem] by ChanServ |
| 23:43.29 | Lunessa | SBO - That rules. But, um, you're not allowed near fire now. |
| 23:43.36 | Shirik | !!!> 04-27-09 18:56:49.121 - null |
| 23:43.36 | Shirik | com.mmoui.wow.manager.AddonInstaller.cleanDirectory(AddonInstaller.java:297) |
| 23:43.36 | Shirik | **************************************************************************************************** |
| 23:43.36 | Shirik | java.lang.AssertionError |
| 23:43.37 | Shirik | at com.mmoui.wow.manager.AddonInstaller.cleanDirectory(AddonInstaller.java:297) |
| 23:43.39 | Shirik | at com.mmoui.wow.manager.AddonInstaller.cleanDirectory(AddonInstaller.java:316) |
| 23:43.41 | kd3 | oh |
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| 23:43.43 | kd3 | ow |
| 23:43.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks for the spam |
| 23:43.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: too bad |
| 23:44.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: covered a month old car in creamed corn too. Black paint job, the corn... stood out. |
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| 23:44.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:44.18 | Lunessa | lol |
| 23:44.24 | kd3 | welcome back. done spamming? |
| 23:44.49 | Shirik | sorry :( |
| 23:46.37 | mikma | hilarious spam-fail |
| 23:48.16 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5230185/the-konami-code-makes-espncom-magical |
| 23:48.19 | Arrowmaster | i cant get it to work =( |
| 23:53.10 | mikma | well, there we go. |
| 23:53.15 | mikma | Ubuntu installed in windows |
| 23:53.28 | mikma | now i need to find out how to install wine + wow |
| 23:54.27 | mikma | aww fuck shit, free space 16.0gb |
