| 00:00.00 | Adys | I'm strongly pissed |
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| 00:00.10 | Adys | and gonna take it out on you bleeter |
| 00:00.12 | Legorol | i have a bigger problem though with our MT... he has the "let's just zerg this shit and scrwe the RL" attitude |
| 00:00.16 | Adys | Ive been trying to fix a "memory leak" for the past 3 hours |
| 00:00.25 | Adys | and I just realized it was my harddrive cache being sucky |
| 00:00.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:00.44 | bleeter | ~fail Adys |
| 00:00.50 | Adys | accessing thousands of files ftl.. I might merge them or something |
| 00:01.33 | wacko | :/ |
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| 00:03.58 | Jamash | ramdisk! |
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| 00:05.26 | bleeter | ~fail purl |
| 00:08.32 | Kraftman | is purl dead? :'( |
| 00:12.40 | AbsolutRayne | Someone find me a tank for Naxx! |
| 00:12.47 | AbsolutRayne | Rawr |
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| 00:26.52 | Thunder_Child | farming for the deviate delight recipy is making me want to slit my wrists |
| 00:28.26 | nevcairiel | you don't like low level animals? |
| 00:28.28 | Legorol | then buy it on AH :) |
| 00:28.38 | Legorol | there are now enough recipes in the game that you can get 160 without Dirge or deviate |
| 00:29.31 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, 1K is not worth it |
| 00:29.47 | Thunder_Child | and i am doing it to make money selling the cooked fish |
| 00:30.19 | Legorol | are you sure that the time you spent farming it, you wouldn't have been able to make 1k already? |
| 00:30.52 | Thunder_Child | i could do ~500g in the same time |
| 00:31.15 | Thunder_Child | less time actually |
| 00:31.54 | Jamash | someone charges 1,000g for the deviate delight recipe? |
| 00:32.08 | Thunder_Child | 1K and 1.5K are the 2 on the AH |
| 00:32.15 | Jamash | I'd figure more like... 50g at most |
| 00:32.20 | Jamash | are you alliance? |
| 00:32.23 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:32.29 | Jamash | ah, there's your problem |
| 00:32.34 | Jamash | reroll horde imo |
| 00:32.36 | Qzot | Alliance will pay anything. |
| 00:33.03 | Qzot | Otoh, it's always for sale in Ironforge. Lots of stuff isn't available in Org, because Horde are so damn cheap. |
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| 00:44.06 | Hirsute | This is... weird. I've got an addon installed (one of my own) that shows up on the addons screen, is enabled with a gold checkmark, but doesn't seem to actually load, and there aren't any errors being kicked, that I can see... |
| 00:48.39 | Kraftman | checked error logs? |
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| 01:24.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:24.42 | Shirik | Google has been pushing back SSL client certificate support forever |
| 01:26.06 | Qzot | Security is for milquetoasts. |
| 01:26.26 | Shirik | for.... what? |
| 01:27.20 | Qzot | Real men don't have behind firewalls or anti-virus software. Real men run unpatched Windows 98 on an open network. |
| 01:29.15 | Qzot | Shirik: http://tinyurl.com/c45xca |
| 01:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: oh? they have? |
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| 01:29.49 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: It was originally scheduled for 1.2 |
| 01:29.50 | Shirik | then 2.0 |
| 01:29.52 | Shirik | now 2.1 |
| 01:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | er |
| 01:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Version 1.2, 2.0 and 2.1 of Google? o_0 |
| 01:30.24 | Shirik | chrome |
| 01:30.30 | Qzot | Not Google. The Universe. |
| 01:30.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 01:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes well |
| 01:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | That is why you use firefox |
| 01:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Or, oddly |
| 01:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | IE |
| 01:30.46 | Shirik | funny thing is |
| 01:30.58 | Shirik | chrome already works with the windows certificate store |
| 01:31.06 | Shirik | you can import certs, etc. |
| 01:31.11 | Shirik | You just can't use them |
| 01:31.12 | Qzot | <-- <3 Chrome. The *only* good thing about having to use Windows. |
| 01:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | See if firefox had that under windows |
| 01:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd be pretty darn happy |
| 01:31.38 | Shirik | Firefox is all like "lol reinvent the wheel" |
| 01:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Not quite |
| 01:31.54 | Shirik | probably 600 memory leaks in its certificate manager |
| 01:32.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Firefox is all like "huh this stuff doesn't exist yet (sup 1998) so we'd better create it" |
| 01:32.44 | Shirik | So what you're saying is Firefox can't keep up with the times |
| 01:32.45 | Shirik | got it |
| 01:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey, if you want to patch support in on a per-OS basis, feel free |
| 01:33.07 | Qzot | o.O I hadn't heard about the Chrome security flaw. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10226578-83.html |
| 01:33.11 | ScytheBlade1 | And btw, no such thing exists for linux |
| 01:33.13 | Shirik | I have no reason to |
| 01:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | And I tihnk OSX but I'm not sure |
| 01:33.22 | Shirik | I don't like firefox |
| 01:33.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, exactly ;) |
| 01:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Neither do the FF/moz devs ;) |
| 01:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | They've had the support for over a decade ;) |
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| 01:45.35 | airtonix | wait what? |
| 01:45.47 | airtonix | you don't mean a keyring manager? |
| 01:46.10 | airtonix | public/private keys etc ? |
| 01:46.14 | ScytheBlade1 | kind of, but more limited in use. Can only store PKCS12 certs |
| 01:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | And yes I looked it up, OSX has a proper system one |
| 01:46.49 | airtonix | i have one on ubuntu, not sure if its exactly waht you want |
| 01:46.56 | ScytheBlade1 | That's either gnome or kde specific |
| 01:47.07 | ScytheBlade1 | KDE has one, not sure about gnome |
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| 01:47.30 | airtonix | gnome uses seahorse |
| 01:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | But in at least KDE's case, that requires linking against KDE which can definitely incude pain to an otherwise smaller application |
| 01:47.36 | airtonix | by default |
| 01:47.46 | Hirsute | Anyone know if Blizz has started disabling addons that don't comply with the new policy yet? |
| 01:47.57 | haste | they did |
| 01:48.07 | Hirsute | Interesting. |
| 01:48.16 | Fisker- | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:48.19 | Fisker- | wyou ruined it |
| 01:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | airtonix: looks like that only does SSH/GPG |
| 01:48.30 | haste | Fisker-: it was already broken |
| 01:48.34 | Fisker- | http://i43.tinypic.com/r7iwqx.jpg |
| 01:48.37 | Fisker- | fuck you :( |
| 01:48.46 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, you want it to deal with firefox ssl? |
| 01:48.50 | haste | throws Peter at Fisker-. |
| 01:48.59 | kd3 | yay rpmfusion finally updated the nvidia rpms |
| 01:49.06 | ScytheBlade1 | airtonix: ideally it'd be able to provide a signed cert/private key to firefox, yes |
| 01:49.09 | Hirsute | I'm beginning to wonder if somehow my chat filter addon has some how run afoul of them.... I just rolled back to a version that I know loaded, and it won't load.... |
| 01:49.19 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, ok, think i saw howto for that |
| 01:49.19 | Fisker- | admiralcat? |
| 01:49.25 | kd3 | nothing showing up in framexml.log? |
| 01:49.34 | Fisker- | arguecat says that you're the reason we can't have nice things haste |
| 01:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: doubtful, GlobalStrings.lua has references to banned addons. You'd likely be informed if that was the case |
| 01:49.44 | Hirsute | kd3: Nope, no errors anywhere at all that I can see... |
| 01:49.51 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: Good to know. |
| 01:49.53 | haste | Fisker-: are they the same cat tho'? IMO they aren't! |
| 01:50.07 | kd3 | write a quick testcase with a bunch of prints() as soon as it loads? |
| 01:50.09 | haste | Fisker-: waiting for you to put down your evidence in this case. |
| 01:50.36 | Hirsute | kd3: I guess. Its variables are loading, but none of its functions. It's... odd. |
| 01:50.53 | Arrowmaster | Hirsute: framexml.log? |
| 01:51.11 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Checking it again right now. |
| 01:55.33 | Hirsute | Nothing in there for the addon that isn't loading, but a boatload of errors for other addons. |
| 01:57.27 | Hirsute | I wonder if Vista has magically decided to give ownership of my files to the administrator account again.... |
| 01:57.45 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSSL |
| 01:58.09 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, its not talking about firefox yet, but at least you can store certs per user |
| 01:58.38 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, oh wait, it does |
| 01:59.51 | ScytheBlade1 | airtonix: yeah, that's not what I'm talking about |
| 01:59.57 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, but i understand that your intention was to have seahorse do that command line stuff? |
| 02:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | nope, not at all |
| 02:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | have seahorse store the actual private key and cert, and provide them to firefox as needed |
| 02:00.34 | ScytheBlade1 | as per that document, you have to manually import the key/cert into firefox |
| 02:00.45 | ScytheBlade1 | (I have most of that command line stuff memorized) |
| 02:00.59 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, firefox would need new code to accept this input from seahorse? |
| 02:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 02:01.32 | ScytheBlade1 | and then the same for KDE, likely |
| 02:01.34 | ScytheBlade1 | And OSX, and windows |
| 02:01.46 | bleeter | problem is there's no accepted standard for private key store api's |
| 02:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | exactly |
| 02:01.57 | bleeter | welcome to the issue that's been bugging folks for 15+ years, noobs |
| 02:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | read up, that's what I more or less said ;) |
| 02:02.13 | bleeter | heh |
| 02:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | well not that specific part |
| 02:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | but yes |
| 02:02.49 | Shirik | Oh sweet |
| 02:02.55 | Shirik | I love Java's SecurityManager |
| 02:02.58 | Shirik | so awesome |
| 02:03.39 | Qzot | RIP Java. :( |
| 02:04.04 | Shirik | I was sitting here saying to myself "I bet I can't stop modules from calling System.exit() and shutting down the app" |
| 02:04.09 | Shirik | But sure enough |
| 02:04.14 | Shirik | SecurityException - if a security manager exists and its checkExit method doesn't allow exit with the specified status. |
| 02:04.19 | Shirik | they thought of everyting |
| 02:06.10 | Qzot | Ooo. I hadn't heard Chrom for Linux is due out about the same time as Chrom for Mac. |
| 02:06.30 | Shirik | Do you always misspell chrome? |
| 02:07.10 | Shirik | huggles Qzot |
| 02:07.10 | Qzot | Dunno. Do I? I see at least won misteaken spelling. |
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| 02:08.41 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 02:08.41 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
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| 02:16.36 | Hirsute | Okay, huh. I've disabled all addons except the problem one at the addon screen. Logged in, addon doesn't load, no errors. Log out, FrameXML.log wasn't even created this time (it was previously with errors from other addons). |
| 02:16.39 | Hirsute | I'm... stumped. |
| 02:18.01 | bleeter | questions purl. |
| 02:22.15 | Hirsute | Curiouser and Curiouser... I just copied the version of this addon from my wife's computer (she's using it and it's working over there this instant) to this one, and it won't load.... |
| 02:22.15 | Hirsute | Maybe it's time to run the repair tool. |
| 02:24.38 | Jamash | I wish wow had a debug log facility |
| 02:24.48 | Jamash | for addon authors |
| 02:25.00 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 02:25.03 | Arrowmaster | framexml.log |
| 02:25.10 | Jamash | I mean for arbitrary log messages |
| 02:25.19 | Arrowmaster | print() |
| 02:25.35 | Jamash | print don't print to disk |
| 02:25.46 | Arrowmaster | i can make it |
| 02:26.19 | Jamash | maybe I should make a debug log addon |
| 02:26.36 | Jamash | that hooks print() and dumps everything to saved variables |
| 02:26.47 | Arrowmaster | edit !BugGrabber to do setprinthandler() in addition to setdebughandler() |
| 02:27.02 | Jamash | hmm |
| 02:27.11 | Arrowmaster | you never hook print |
| 02:28.28 | Hirsute | Is there anyway to adjust the detail of framexml.log? |
| 02:28.29 | Shirik | is scared of the thought of hooking print |
| 02:28.49 | Shirik | Hirsute: Only the taint log |
| 02:28.58 | Shirik | What are you looking for? |
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| 02:30.10 | Hirsute | Shirik: I've got this addon that refuses to load. I've copied a version that is working on another machine over to this one, removed old saved variables, and logged in, and it just will not load (even with only this addon enabled), and no errors are kicked at, and FrameXML.log isn't created |
| 02:30.23 | Shirik | o.O |
| 02:30.28 | Shirik | OS? |
| 02:30.36 | Antiarc | Restarted WoW? |
| 02:30.43 | Antiarc | TOC matches the directory name? |
| 02:30.52 | Hirsute | Vista, and Yes, and yes. |
| 02:30.58 | Hirsute | WoW isn't in Program Files |
| 02:31.10 | Hirsute | It's in a directory of my own and has been there since I installed it. |
| 02:31.30 | Hirsute | It was working until todya. |
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| 02:31.36 | Hirsute | s/todya/today/ |
| 02:31.42 | Shirik | paste your toc |
| 02:32.57 | Hirsute | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/113082 |
| 02:34.32 | Ackis | does the easter event start before dailies retstart? |
| 02:34.52 | Jamash | yes |
| 02:35.22 | Hirsute | And load.xml is here: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/113083 |
| 02:38.55 | Hirsute | ... |
| 02:39.06 | Hirsute | This is really, really weird. |
| 02:39.24 | Shirik | why Hirsute |
| 02:39.26 | Shirik | would you do that |
| 02:39.32 | Hirsute | Would I do what? |
| 02:39.38 | Shirik | have that XML file? |
| 02:39.49 | Shirik | why does your toc not just say TIFT.lua? |
| 02:40.20 | Hirsute | Shirik: Likely because when I initially started this project, I was learning by looking at how Auctioneer laid things out. |
| 02:40.26 | Shirik | :P |
| 02:40.41 | Shirik | ok well what does your lua file look like? |
| 02:40.52 | Hirsute | However, the addon *does* load, it looks like. I can see all the tables the lua file creates. |
| 02:41.03 | Hirsute | It just won't run any of my slash commands.... |
| 02:41.12 | Hirsute | On *this* machine. |
| 02:41.17 | Hirsute | But it will on the other one. |
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| 02:59.21 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:59.23 | kd3 | 11901/12k |
| 03:00.28 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 03:02.53 | Hirsute | Yay! I finally got it to completely load on this computer (by deleting the folder and copying the files over yet again). Now... let's see if I put the current version back if I have better luck... |
| 03:06.24 | bleeter | looks around for the Noblegarden Calici Virus |
| 03:06.32 | bleeter | bloody rabbits... kill the lot of them |
| 03:06.37 | bleeter | worse than freaken toads |
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| 03:11.16 | Hirsute | I have now put everything with that addon back the way it was before, and it's still working just fine. |
| 03:11.44 | Hirsute | mumbles something about Gremlins. |
| 03:14.39 | Hirsute | ... Oh my. |
| 03:15.21 | Hirsute | When we say that the folder in the addons directory has to be named exactly the same as the toc file... does that include letter case? |
| 03:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 03:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | For things like OSX/wine on linux where that may break |
| 03:16.08 | ScytheBlade1 | On windows, it *may* not matter |
| 03:16.43 | Hirsute | I think it does, even on Windows |
| 03:16.54 | Hirsute | Even though it doesn't matter *to* Windows |
| 03:19.19 | ScytheBlade1 | any suggestions for DVD backup software under linux? |
| 03:19.28 | ScytheBlade1 | (@ the channel) |
| 03:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I just got this HTPC setup and a brand new DVD sitting here |
| 03:19.51 | ScytheBlade1 | dd hits an I/O error @ 51MB in :( |
| 03:21.23 | Jamash | why not just copy all the files to disk |
| 03:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I want a nice .iso without the pain of that process |
| 03:22.08 | ScytheBlade1 | and time involved |
| 03:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Copy the 3-7GB over once |
| 03:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again into the .iso container |
| 03:24.22 | Hirsute | I cannot believe that was the problem. Freaking bad habits that windows has gotten me in. |
| 03:24.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 03:24.57 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: I've had this addon that absolutely refused to load |
| 03:25.21 | Hirsute | It's because the addon was in a folder that had one character capitalized differently than the name of the toc |
| 03:25.50 | Hirsute | I've been working on Windows long enough, where case *never* matters, that it didn't occur to me that it might to WoW |
| 03:26.07 | Hirsute | Time for me to go build a linux box again. |
| 03:26.13 | Arrowmaster | what os are you on? |
| 03:26.37 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Windows Vista right now. |
| 03:26.45 | Arrowmaster | then case wont matter |
| 03:26.50 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: It does |
| 03:26.53 | Arrowmaster | does not |
| 03:27.04 | Hirsute | Here was my experiment: |
| 03:27.17 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: what options are you using with dd? |
| 03:27.26 | Hirsute | Addons/TIFT/TIFT.toc -->Addon loads |
| 03:27.39 | Hirsute | Addons/TiFT/TIFT.toc-->Addon won't load |
| 03:27.52 | Hirsute | It mattered |
| 03:28.11 | Nechckn_AFK | it's because you are cursed, Hirsute, cursed! |
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| 03:28.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: nothing fancy at all |
| 03:28.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: if and of |
| 03:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Hirsute: :( @ problem |
| 03:29.17 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: Frustrating that it took me that long to figure out, but I'm glad it's fixed now and that I didn't have to recode anything. |
| 03:29.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Funny how a single byte can break stuff |
| 03:30.29 | Hirsute | *nod* Even when the operating system doesn't pay any attention to the difference |
| 03:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 03:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | man, sad day when my gigabit network is slower than my optical drive |
| 03:33.12 | Shirik | o.O |
| 03:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | it's probably the destination hard drive but still, wtf |
| 03:35.41 | ScytheBlade1 | actually, I blame vista |
| 03:35.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I could probably tune the networking to work better |
| 03:41.06 | Zyndrome | sweet! |
| 03:41.13 | Zyndrome | ze Sea Turtle be mine |
| 03:41.25 | End | hatechu |
| 03:42.13 | dolseni | anybody know what beer is in german? |
| 03:42.15 | Zyndrome | it paid off, fished for 6-7 hours in a row one morning |
| 03:42.44 | Hirsute | Hey ScytheBlade1: It just got weirder: |
| 03:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~translate en de beer |
| 03:42.55 | Hirsute | TIFT/TIFT.toc-->Loads |
| 03:43.07 | Hirsute | TiFT/TIFT.toc-->No load |
| 03:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | .. right, as expected |
| 03:43.16 | Hirsute | TiFT/TiFT.toc-->No load |
| 03:43.19 | dolseni | ah, i was just wondering... because apparently beer in australian is Foster's |
| 03:43.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun! |
| 03:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Have WoW installed to program files? |
| 03:43.33 | dolseni | oh fuck, foster is nasty |
| 03:43.40 | Hirsute | Nope, and never have. |
| 03:43.44 | dolseni | i bought one to see what it was like =/ |
| 03:43.49 | tekkub | question for the hordies here... if you do borean into dragonblight with the taunka chain... when you get this quest are you given a flight to Venomspite, or expected to run? http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12189 |
| 03:43.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... really quite awesome |
| 03:44.13 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Any ideas why I would be seeing the behavior I noted above on a Windows Vista machine? |
| 03:44.29 | tekkub | the ally quests you get a flight from star's rest to winterguard, or the othre way around, depending on if you come from BT or HF |
| 03:44.50 | Arrowmaster | Hirsute: no |
| 03:44.51 | End | I know HF->venomspite gives you a free flight |
| 03:44.56 | End | for horde |
| 03:44.58 | Hirsute | So. Freaking. Weird. |
| 03:45.07 | tekkub | yea I already found that |
| 03:45.14 | End | I didn't start from borean end, so I don't remember for certain |
| 03:45.40 | End | well |
| 03:45.45 | End | I'm completely unhelpful |
| 03:47.07 | tekkub | just trying to get BT and HFG flowing into DB easily |
| 03:47.28 | tekkub | with ally it was simple, BT incoming go to star's rest and get the flight to Winterguard |
| 03:48.08 | dolseni | seriously, how do people drink fosters |
| 03:49.20 | haste | the way the drink all othre liquids obviously! |
| 03:52.33 | dolseni | heh |
| 03:54.04 | dolseni | haven't really had many types of beer so iv'e been picking em up a couple at a time |
| 03:54.07 | dolseni | to get my feet wet |
| 03:54.18 | dolseni | so far the only one i've actually enjoyed was asahi dry |
| 03:55.32 | Jamash | wow that's weird, I open and close my map and suddenly I'm spammed with 30 WORLD_MAP_UPDATE events per second |
| 03:56.13 | Jamash | wtf |
| 03:56.17 | Jamash | I've found a mystery spot |
| 03:59.59 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap, handbrake is an amazing piece of software |
| 04:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | pop in a DVD, check a few boxes, out comes an x.264 .mkv file a few minutes later |
| 04:01.50 | Jamash | nice |
| 04:02.10 | Shirik | I'll show you an x.264 file |
| 04:02.27 | haste | throws Peter at Shirik. |
| 04:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh? What do you have? |
| 04:02.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll trade you Dark Knight |
| 04:03.14 | Jamash | can addons trigger WORLD_MAP_UPDATE events? |
| 04:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | No addon can directly trigger events |
| 04:03.59 | Jamash | then why am I getting 100 events per second with addons loaded, and none without? |
| 04:04.22 | End | you can trigger WORLD_MAP_UPDATE by calling the various set map functions |
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| 04:04.35 | Jamash | something must have gone koo-koo |
| 04:04.36 | ScytheBlade1 | (emphasis "directly") |
| 04:05.08 | End | or arbitrary |
| 04:05.48 | End | Jamash: what addons do you have the mess with or use the map? |
| 04:06.27 | Jamash | Cartographer seems to be the major culprit |
| 04:07.06 | End | cartographer3, or the old one? |
| 04:07.21 | End | well, I could see it generating a lot either way |
| 04:07.39 | Antiarc | Ace2 fires pseudo-events |
| 04:07.46 | Jamash | but it's an interaction between it and another addon, it doesn't happen with cartographer disabled, but it also doesn't happen with *just* cartographer enabled |
| 04:07.49 | Antiarc | If you're catching them with AceEvent-2.0 then addons might fire them |
| 04:07.53 | Jamash | version, um... |
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| 04:08.05 | Antiarc | I think Rock uses a different eventing model |
| 04:08.10 | Antiarc | In any case, Mapster go go go |
| 04:08.24 | Jamash | 2.0 |
| 04:08.58 | Jamash | actually 2.5.3 |
| 04:19.13 | Jamash | ah, it's questhelper, I should have known |
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| 04:21.22 | Jamash | woops, disabled devtools by mistake |
| 04:22.35 | Jamash | yeah, so cartographer 2.5.3 and questhelper 0.105 spazz out together, but only in some places |
| 04:26.52 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.1.x ToC: 30100 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Upload your 3.1 compatible mods | Happy Birthday Kirkburn! |
| 04:28.04 | End | Does Kirkburn even still visit this channel? |
| 04:29.43 | Cairenn | once in a blue moon |
| 04:31.28 | Arrowmaster | youre more likely to find him in the wowwiki channel since he works for wikia now i think |
| 04:31.39 | Cairenn | I put it in there, too |
| 04:31.49 | Cairenn | and he doesn't get in there very often any more, either |
| 04:32.16 | Cairenn | he's worked for Wikia for quite a while now, and they've got him so busy that he hardly gets a chance to be on IRC at all any more |
| 04:32.56 | Cairenn | it's also part of the reason why he stopped ClearFont (although not the full reason) |
| 04:43.40 | Shadowed | finding a decent editor to program on is a bit annoying |
| 04:43.51 | batrick | vim! |
| 04:44.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 04:44.07 | Arrowmaster | scite |
| 04:44.23 | Shadowed | tried scite, it's annoying more than everything having to dig through to configure the layout |
| 04:45.04 | Arrowmaster | well then i dont suggest you try vim or emacs |
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| 04:49.42 | Nechckn_AFK | Shadowed http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_editors is a pretty complete list. |
| 04:50.37 | Nechckn_AFK | I use textwrangler on OSX and notepad++ when in Windows |
| 04:51.06 | Nechckn_AFK | every so often Eclipse, but... it's a bit of overkill for most, imnsho |
| 04:55.01 | Jamash | goddamn it I hate wasting money on respecs to test my addon |
| 04:55.25 | Jamash | especially when I screw up and have to do it again |
| 04:55.48 | Nechckn_AFK | ouch |
| 04:55.52 | Adys | can someone name me an item DK-only? |
| 04:56.05 | ScytheBlade1 | their mount |
| 04:56.10 | Adys | name. |
| 04:56.25 | ScytheBlade1 | good question! |
| 04:56.59 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.00 | Adys | thankyou |
| 04:57.49 | Shadowed | Notepad++ likes to launch in the same instance without manually setting it to -multiInst which is going to drive me crazy |
| 04:57.55 | Shadowed | (for every single text file) |
| 04:58.36 | haste | reeroll vim! |
| 04:58.45 | Torhal | Hirsute: It's WoW. Since MacOS X is a *NIX system, case does matter, so they built it into WoW for it to matter as well. |
| 04:58.47 | Shadowed | VIM would be worst :P |
| 04:59.34 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: it didnt used to, and i dont even see how they could have done that on a windows system |
| 04:59.41 | Hirsute | Torhal: Which made sense to me, except for that last test (TiFT/TiFT.toc-->Didn't load) |
| 05:00.06 | haste | Hirsute: then you did something wrong |
| 05:00.32 | Hirsute | haste: Feel free to tell me what, this is literally the process I went through |
| 05:00.41 | Hirsute | 1)TIFT/TIFT.toc -->Loaded |
| 05:00.54 | Hirsute | 2)TiFT/TIFT.toc -->Didn't Load |
| 05:01.06 | Hirsute | 3)TiFT/TiFT.toc -->Didn't Load |
| 05:01.21 | Torhal | Hirsute: TIFT isn't the same as TiFT, either in filename or dir name. |
| 05:01.32 | Torhal | They'd both have to be uppercase to work |
| 05:01.39 | Hirsute | Torhal: I know, but in case number 3, they're identical. |
| 05:01.43 | Torhal | Or both lowercase, in exactly the same pattern |
| 05:01.47 | Torhal | Oh |
| 05:01.55 | Torhal | That is a bit fucked |
| 05:02.09 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Maybe they strcmp the name? :) |
| 05:02.14 | Hirsute | I know, and the case in the folder and file names were the *only* things I changed. |
| 05:02.28 | haste | three should load just fine |
| 05:02.33 | Torhal | haste: Exactly |
| 05:02.41 | Hirsute | haste: Should, but it won't. |
| 05:03.13 | Hirsute | ... |
| 05:03.21 | JackBurton7676 | Acherus Deathcharger is the DK mount |
| 05:03.28 | Hirsute | I wonder if it's because the SV file was still TIFT.lua |
| 05:03.35 | Torhal | Hirsute: Yep |
| 05:03.48 | Torhal | The addon would work, just wouldn't load your vars |
| 05:03.59 | Hirsute | Torhal: Except it actually didn't work. |
| 05:04.02 | Hirsute | It wouldn't load |
| 05:04.07 | haste | Hirsute: it loads just fine here |
| 05:04.11 | Torhal | Ask a blue! |
| 05:04.12 | Torhal | Heh |
| 05:04.26 | Jamash | hooray, ConfirmTalentWipe *is* fired just before ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED when unlearning talents |
| 05:04.38 | haste | http://hastey.pastey.net/113084-39jn |
| 05:04.39 | Hirsute | haste: OS? |
| 05:04.40 | haste | entire process |
| 05:04.41 | haste | linux |
| 05:04.56 | Hirsute | I'm wondering if it's something weird with the way it's working on Windows Vista |
| 05:05.17 | Jamash | everything about vista is weird |
| 05:05.46 | Hirsute | ^^^^ |
| 05:06.09 | Hirsute | I'm thinking it's got to be choking because the SV file was still in all caps. |
| 05:06.53 | haste | I still think it's a PEBKAC thingy |
| 05:07.01 | Hirsute | Though why that would break the loading of the addon entirely... I can only guess that it has something to do with Windows not knowing the difference between TIFT and TiFT, but WoW knowing the difference. |
| 05:07.04 | Jamash | it's there! but it's not there! it's case sensitive! but it's not case sensitive! |
| 05:07.17 | Hirsute | haste: :p |
| 05:07.41 | Jamash | it's a floor wax! but it's a dessert topping! ERROR ERROR *kaboom* |
| 05:07.56 | Hirsute | Think what you want. I can reproduce the problem right now on my end, by simply renaming the folder and the toc both to TiFT instead of TIFT |
| 05:08.08 | End | WoW loads a copy of the file system tree into memory at startup |
| 05:08.23 | End | although |
| 05:08.27 | Jamash | good point, are you fully exiting WoW each time? |
| 05:08.32 | Torhal | Indeed |
| 05:08.34 | Jamash | or just reloading? |
| 05:08.36 | End | that doesn't explain it |
| 05:08.38 | Hirsute | Jamash: Done with wow closed |
| 05:08.48 | Jamash | interesting |
| 05:08.53 | Hirsute | Exited, made the change, restarted the client. |
| 05:08.59 | End | lookups usually don't care about the sensitivity |
| 05:09.14 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5227897/world-of-warcraft-runs-on-iphone-mostly |
| 05:09.15 | Jamash | usually <--- this is windows we're talking about |
| 05:11.27 | Ackis | ahhh it's 12:10 am on my server but no event!!! RAWR |
| 05:11.41 | Hirsute | I'm *guessing* what's happening is that WoW looks for the file, Windows tells it it's there, WoW asks for the file, and chokes when the capitalization is not the same, but it's only a guess. |
| 05:12.08 | Arrowmaster | not possible |
| 05:12.35 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Okay. *shrug* I don't claim to be an expert, I just can't find any other explanation for what's happening. |
| 05:12.53 | Arrowmaster | wow could ask for any capitialization it wants, windows is still going to give it the same file |
| 05:13.20 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: I know, but it's quite possible for WoW to throw a fit when the file Windows gives it isn't capitalized the way it expected to receive it. |
| 05:13.26 | Hirsute | no? |
| 05:14.18 | Arrowmaster | not even sure if windows would tell it the file name after it requests the file |
| 05:15.00 | Hirsute | Hrmm. Okay, one more test.... |
| 05:15.47 | Arrowmaster | more than likely, if wow was case sensitive, it would have the directory map (it does that so you cant add files later) and compare the capitalization from the directory map with what its pulling from the toc, or comparing it in the directory map before loading the toc |
| 05:16.14 | Arrowmaster | when you have TiFT/TIFT.toc the addon shows in the addon screen right? |
| 05:16.51 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Yes, but the addon doesn't load, at least not properly, as it doesn't function once I'm in game. |
| 05:17.36 | Arrowmaster | if it shows stuff like the ## Title: or ## Notes: from the toc then its already loaded |
| 05:18.06 | Hirsute | None of the functions of the addon are accessible from within the game. |
| 05:18.11 | Arrowmaster | its not going to request it from windows again, hell you could delete the toc while on the character select screen and i think it would still work ingame |
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| 05:19.26 | Hirsute | Like I said, *I* don't understand why it's happening, but I can consistently reproduce the behavior. |
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| 05:19.36 | Arrowmaster | i blame vista |
| 05:19.40 | Arrowmaster | and gnomes |
| 05:19.51 | Hirsute | I can get on board with blaming Vista |
| 05:20.43 | Arrowmaster | nothing good has come from vista |
| 05:20.54 | Gnarfoz | NTFS can do case-sensitive, Windows just doesn't... who knows what Blizzard does :O |
| 05:21.54 | ScytheBlade1 | windows has a switch you can flip to make it function in a fully case sensitive manner |
| 05:22.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It is just not advised that you do so |
| 05:22.15 | Arrowmaster | because it will likely break everything |
| 05:22.32 | Gnarfoz | s/.../ by default.../ |
| 05:22.33 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 05:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:23.03 | Gnarfoz | good thing I didn't write anything before you said that, ;) |
| 05:23.12 | Gnarfoz | ~botsnack |
| 05:23.12 | purl | Gnarfoz: aw, gee |
| 05:24.22 | Gnarfoz | since WoW is multi-platform, I guess it makes sense for them to case-sensitively compare all filenames associated with an addon before giving it a 'green light' |
| 05:25.10 | Trela | World of Warcraft ignore case sensitive and does not run correctly on case sensitive volumes. |
| 05:25.41 | Trela | *ignores |
| 05:27.12 | Trela | To install WoW on a case sensitive OS X volume you have to install it to a non-case sensitive then copy it over. For updates, copy it back, update, and then back again. Some people have no issues with it though. |
| 05:27.46 | Gnarfoz | eh... what |
| 05:28.00 | Arrowmaster | some people use it just fine on linux though |
| 05:28.07 | Arrowmaster | which is case sensitive |
| 05:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | because wine provides a layer inbetween the FS and the win API |
| 05:28.24 | Trela | Not sure how it would interact between Wine though. |
| 05:28.42 | Gnarfoz | aren't HFS volumes case-sensitive? |
| 05:28.50 | Gnarfoz | or whatever they use now |
| 05:28.51 | ScytheBlade1 | see: http://wiki.winehq.org/CaseInsensitiveFilenames |
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| 05:29.04 | Trela | You have to format it specifically. OS X ships insensitive by default. |
| 05:29.39 | Trela | Blizzard's general response for OS X users with case sensitive file name issues are to STFU and reformat. |
| 05:30.03 | Gnarfoz | anyway, that's not even the issue at hand |
| 05:30.03 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 05:30.08 | Trela | With that said, I hate case sensitive volumes with a passion. |
| 05:30.20 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 05:30.49 | Gnarfoz | <Trela> World of Warcraft ignore case sensitive [...] <-- this is certainly wrong, or Hirsute wouldn't have had any problems at all :P |
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| 05:31.12 | airtonix | why do all lazy people hate being forced to move out of the lazy paradigm? |
| 05:31.27 | Gnarfoz | what is "the lazy paradigm"? |
| 05:31.30 | Gnarfoz | also |
| 05:31.32 | Gnarfoz | ~laziness |
| 05:31.32 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 05:31.35 | dolseni | because being lazy is easy |
| 05:31.37 | Hirsute | It may ignore the case-sensitivity of the File System/Volume it's on anddo whatever the heck it wants instead, but it is definitely case sensitive. |
| 05:31.59 | airtonix | ok then, is lazy == laodecian? |
| 05:32.13 | Gnarfoz | saywhat? |
| 05:32.13 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 05:32.53 | airtonix | or whats one word to describe lack of effort? |
| 05:33.03 | airtonix | apart from effortless |
| 05:33.04 | Gnarfoz | you mean laodicean? |
| 05:33.19 | Trela | Gnarfoz: I mean it ignores by going, "LOL give me what ever file comes first." So if it requests "Case", but file is "case" and the volume is case sensitive, WoW gets nothing. |
| 05:33.22 | Gnarfoz | (which seems to be about religious indifference) |
| 05:33.48 | Tem | ~impatience |
| 05:33.48 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 05:33.52 | Tem | ~hubris |
| 05:33.52 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 05:33.53 | Gnarfoz | Trela: not the case, obviously, if you read Hirsute's adventure from start to end again :) |
| 05:33.55 | Tem | ~fear of complexity |
| 05:33.55 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 05:34.11 | airtonix | foc |
| 05:34.35 | Trela | I need to be at the gym in 26 minutes, so... |
| 05:34.44 | airtonix | use the green door... |
| 05:34.48 | Gnarfoz | no! |
| 05:34.50 | Gnarfoz | the red one |
| 05:35.06 | Gnarfoz | (what?) |
| 05:35.25 | airtonix | don't forget the camels name |
| 05:35.39 | airtonix | (it's another 12mins on yoru travel time otherwise) |
| 05:35.43 | airtonix | your* |
| 05:37.40 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: It seems that Trela did indeed read what was written, but failed to properly grok it. |
| 05:38.02 | Trela | Sorry, I am being friends with the bathroom. |
| 05:38.07 | Trela | heads off to barf more. |
| 05:38.17 | Torhal | scratches his head. |
| 05:44.26 | tekkub | lol wow phishing email |
| 05:44.31 | tekkub | DENIED |
| 05:44.44 | airtonix | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3300745997_13899c836d_o.jpg |
| 05:45.57 | Jamash | sinkholes? |
| 05:45.57 | Trela | Uh oh, either that is Black Mesa down there or the Large Hadron Collider went terribly wrong! |
| 05:46.29 | Torhal | That looks like what happens when someone throws bacon at tekkub's feet |
| 05:46.47 | Trela | Airtonix, is there a related story? |
| 05:47.00 | tekkub | are you saying I'm fat? |
| 05:47.10 | tekkub | are you saying bacon made me fat? |
| 05:47.38 | Torhal | tekkub: ... |
| 05:47.41 | Trela | I could certainly believe the cause and effect of the second statement. |
| 05:47.51 | Jamash | I think he's saying you move towards the bacon so quickly you create a hole in the earth's crust |
| 05:47.58 | Torhal | Exactly! |
| 05:48.07 | tekkub | that makes no sense |
| 05:48.13 | airtonix | Trela, no i just found that image on andrew coulters blog |
| 05:48.20 | tekkub | I'd be moving ACROOS the earth's crust |
| 05:48.25 | tekkub | not towards it |
| 05:48.36 | tekkub | unless you're saying I'm fat |
| 05:48.48 | airtonix | http://thetreehouseandthecave.blogspot.com/ |
| 05:48.50 | tekkub | in which case, I don't have to share my bacon |
| 05:49.21 | airtonix | i'd like to know the story behind that very deep hole |
| 05:49.52 | tekkub | ... |
| 05:50.28 | tekkub | you see, when two men are slightly attracted to each other, and one has crisco and elbow-length rubber gloves... |
| 05:51.34 | Torhal | That's SLIGHTLY? |
| 05:51.38 | Torhal | Holy hell. |
| 05:52.32 | Trela | Tekkud confuses and possibly scares me. |
| 05:53.25 | Thunder_Child | Torhal, yes, because when it is more than slightly the gloves come off..... |
| 05:53.31 | End | well, tekkub is an export about these sort of things |
| 05:53.31 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 05:53.39 | End | errm, expert |
| 05:53.43 | End | more like sexpert! |
| 05:55.07 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 06:00.53 | Jamash | It's not possible to set an action ID to a spell directly? I have to use PickupSpell then PlaceAction? |
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| 06:12.08 | Cairenn | http://ihasahotdog.com/2009/04/25/cute-puppy-pictures-siamese-cute/ |
| 06:12.10 | Jamash | man the blizzard api is a mess |
| 06:12.30 | Jamash | aww, doggies |
| 06:15.18 | Cairenn | is cuteness! |
| 06:16.00 | Thunder_Child | "Highly portable torpedo shape" lol |
| 06:16.19 | Fisker- | faaaaaaaaail |
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| 06:16.35 | Fisker- | someone did the un'goro achievement by running |
| 06:16.57 | Fisker- | and is now complaining on the CS forums that they should make the achievement unobtainable through other means |
| 06:17.31 | Jamash | which achievement? |
| 06:18.37 | End | ...the explore un'goro achievement? |
| 06:18.38 | End | what? |
| 06:21.02 | Jamash | oh the noblegarden one? |
| 06:21.10 | End | oh |
| 06:22.18 | End | I'm not sure which noblegarden achievement that is |
| 06:22.18 | End | oh |
| 06:22.18 | End | hard boiled |
| 06:23.16 | End | I don't know the details of noblegarden very well..but...is that saying they ran as a rabbit all the way from razor hill or wherever to un'goro? |
| 06:25.04 | Jamash | could be |
| 06:25.09 | Jamash | if so that's silly |
| 06:25.29 | End | indeed |
| 06:28.48 | Jamash | I want to do something seemingly so simple... and yet in practice so hard |
| 06:29.49 | Jamash | it would probably be easier to just replace all talent-learned abilities with macros :-/ |
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| 06:34.03 | Jamash | it's easy to tell what spells are unlearned due to talking to a trainer, but what about when a patch removes everyone's talents? |
| 06:34.18 | Jamash | I'd have to save a cache in savedvariables |
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| 06:49.41 | Gnarfoz | what are you even doing? |
| 06:52.16 | Jamash | trying to magically restore talented abilities to the user's action bars when they lose them and regain them |
| 06:54.02 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.34 | Jamash | and thinking is, y'know, hard |
| 06:54.53 | Gnarfoz | ehm |
| 06:55.03 | Gnarfoz | lose and regain under what circumstances? |
| 06:55.15 | Gnarfoz | certainly not on switching specs because that's done automatically... |
| 06:55.31 | Gnarfoz | so... unlearning talents (regardless of user-initiated or serverside)? |
| 06:56.02 | Gnarfoz | if so, you're reinventing the wheel or are doing it for kicks, because there's already ActionBarSaver :> |
| 06:57.47 | Shadowed | You overcomplicate it by trying to do it automatically anyway |
| 06:58.33 | Shadowed | people don't manually respec that often, especially with duel specs, automatic restoring won't really benefit you that much |
| 07:01.54 | End | noooo |
| 07:02.01 | End | noblegarden just started on my server |
| 07:02.06 | End | I tried to get a quest from an npc |
| 07:02.09 | End | and the npc despawned |
| 07:02.12 | End | stupid commoners |
| 07:03.28 | Fisker- | so jnwhiteh |
| 07:03.35 | jnwhiteh | sup |
| 07:03.54 | Fisker- | i got a 22" to spare! |
| 07:04.02 | Fisker- | http://i43.tinypic.com/r7iwqx.jpg |
| 07:04.19 | End | looks fine to me! |
| 07:04.26 | haste | I'm dedicating a song to Fisker- ! |
| 07:04.31 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYusL_0HCkI&fmt=18 - enjoy Fisker- ! |
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| 07:07.34 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh comment! |
| 07:07.43 | End | oh gpd |
| 07:07.45 | End | oh god |
| 07:07.47 | End | I'm a rabbit |
| 07:07.51 | End | how the fuck did that happen |
| 07:08.00 | Fisker- | oh god |
| 07:08.03 | Fisker- | noblegarden |
| 07:08.05 | End | oh gpd |
| 07:08.07 | haste | Fisker-: great song or great song? |
| 07:08.21 | Fisker- | song? |
| 07:08.31 | haste | the youtube! |
| 07:08.32 | jnwhiteh | why?> |
| 07:08.32 | Fisker- | i don't believe it qualifies |
| 07:08.36 | haste | it's like AFX, only better |
| 07:08.42 | haste | old AFX :3 |
| 07:08.46 | Fisker- | why wat? :3 |
| 07:09.05 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Fisker- keeps trying to give you a broken 22" monitor |
| 07:09.15 | Fisker- | sshh |
| 07:09.16 | jnwhiteh | yeah i know |
| 07:09.41 | Fisker- | i prefer artistically superior |
| 07:09.47 | Torhal | Fisker-: I don't believe PayPal takes 22" monitors, broken or otherwise. |
| 07:10.36 | Fisker- | i'll send it to his house irl |
| 07:10.46 | Fisker- | maybe i should try to RMA it |
| 07:10.59 | Fisker- | though i doubt mentos and soda is covered by the warranty |
| 07:11.38 | Torhal | I still can't believe I get a 20FPS increase just by switching to KDE from Gnome. |
| 07:11.44 | Torhal | That's just...wrong. |
| 07:12.05 | Fisker- | kde is shit |
| 07:12.14 | Fisker- | any good 22" screens out there btw? |
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| 07:16.35 | Gnarfoz | I still can't believe he was stupid enough to do what he did to break that screen |
| 07:16.39 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 07:21.00 | Fisker- | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:21.13 | Fisker- | it was a bad screen anyways! |
| 07:21.26 | Fisker- | pretty odd it couldn't handle some soda |
| 07:21.41 | Fisker- | especially since i started wiping it off right away |
| 07:28.54 | Fisker- | hurr hurr |
| 07:28.59 | Fisker- | you can exploit Shake Your Bunny-Maker |
| 07:36.53 | Jamash | exploit in what way? |
| 07:39.27 | Gnarfoz | always awesome how the Fisker- always seems to know the exploits really fast |
| 07:41.03 | Jamash | my sister found out you can get Epic by buying pvp gear then returning it |
| 07:42.37 | augustl | does anyone know when blizzards new gear-thingie will be deployed? |
| 07:43.05 | Jamash | ~soon |
| 07:43.05 | purl | [soon] well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
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| 07:43.20 | augustl | \o/ |
| 07:45.18 | augustl | finds a gear-mod |
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| 08:09.54 | NeoTron | AWESOME iron council |
| 08:10.07 | NeoTron | the smallest guy was in phase 3 |
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| 08:10.16 | NeoTron | and he jumped into the wall and did his phase 2 aoe thing |
| 08:10.31 | NeoTron | and we couldn't interrupt. I wonder wtf he jumped away from me - never did that before |
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| 08:39.30 | jnwhiteh | I need a very simple "ping" noise |
| 08:39.32 | jnwhiteh | not the minmap ping |
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| 08:42.02 | tekkub | steal the sonar sound from OSX? |
| 08:42.27 | Kaso| | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PlaySound |
| 08:42.30 | Kaso| | try all the sounds on there |
| 08:42.34 | Kaso| | see what sounds good to you |
| 08:42.52 | jnwhiteh | i have beenb |
| 08:42.57 | jnwhiteh | too much time |
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| 08:46.12 | mikma | jnwhiteh: AuctionWindowOpen |
| 08:46.19 | mikma | small "Ping" |
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| 08:55.21 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13245-HandyEggFinder.html |
| 08:55.48 | Trela | Ha, nice! |
| 08:55.55 | mikma | ^^ |
| 08:56.26 | Trela | Did all of that start already?~ |
| 08:56.31 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 08:57.23 | jnwhiteh | leavs |
| 08:57.25 | jnwhiteh | err leaves |
| 08:57.36 | Trela | Has to be, Dalaran is dead! |
| 08:58.19 | Fisker- | it's not over yet? |
| 08:58.30 | Trela | It just started. |
| 08:59.45 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Ravencrest&cn=Fiskerdin&gn=Semper+Danica |
| 08:59.49 | jnwhiteh | its on for a week |
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| 09:00.17 | Fisker- | it's alright though |
| 09:00.29 | Fisker- | being up to 4AM made me sleep to 8AM instead of 5-6AM |
| 09:04.46 | Jamash | you got the title already? |
| 09:04.50 | Jamash | geez |
| 09:05.14 | Fisker- | Didn't want to do it at 4AM |
| 09:05.24 | Fisker- | waiting 5 minutes for each use was tiresome |
| 09:06.00 | Fisker- | I'll probably get banned for getting the shake your bunny maker achievement on a male dwarf |
| 09:06.16 | nevcairiel | you're just gay |
| 09:06.27 | Fisker- | atleast i'm not german |
| 09:06.31 | Jamash | ha ha it works! |
| 09:06.36 | Jamash | IT WORKS |
| 09:07.05 | Jamash | They said I was mad! Mad, I tell you! |
| 09:07.31 | nevcairiel | if you continue that rambling, i'll join them |
| 09:07.35 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 09:07.49 | Jamash | now I just need to hook up the jumper cables^W^Wevent handlers |
| 09:08.08 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: lol let me guess, pigmy oil? |
| 09:08.30 | Fisker- | naw |
| 09:08.34 | Fisker- | just went to brunnhildar village |
| 09:08.40 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 09:08.41 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 09:08.46 | Arrowmaster | that works too |
| 09:08.58 | Jamash | I wonder if the horde brewfest goggles work |
| 09:09.13 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 09:09.17 | Arrowmaster | i have those |
| 09:10.10 | Arrowmaster | wonder if ill have time to complete everything today |
| 09:11.09 | Arrowmaster | since i still need to sleep, then i have tickets to see avenue q and its a 1 hour drive away |
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| 09:18.29 | Jamash | wow, razor hill is camped out |
| 09:19.33 | Jamash | I think I'll head to falconwing square |
| 09:22.19 | jnwhiteh | the more people that are there, the more eggs there are, in theory =) |
| 09:24.50 | Wobin | in theory? |
| 09:25.12 | Wobin | if the spawns themselves don't have an internal cooldown =) |
| 09:26.25 | mikma | jnwhiteh: eggmaster :D |
| 09:26.42 | mikma | "i like wabbits, i like chocolade" |
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| 09:35.12 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46004 <- got that from fishing daily |
| 09:36.16 | mikma | 13g 23s with questreturn :) |
| 09:43.20 | Arrowmaster | theres an orc warlock on my server with thunderfury |
| 09:46.45 | cncfanatics | the quest is class restricted afaik |
| 09:47.10 | Arrowmaster | you can masterloot the blade to anybody in the raid |
| 09:49.38 | cncfanatics | the blade is a questreward |
| 09:50.33 | cncfanatics | seems however that the blade ain't class restricted anymore, so a warlock cld do the quest, cool :o |
| 09:51.33 | Arrowmaster | no the blade is droped from thunderan |
| 09:52.08 | Jamash | did they change it to a straight drop? |
| 09:52.29 | Arrowmaster | it was always a drop |
| 09:52.35 | Jamash | o |
| 09:52.52 | Arrowmaster | i thought |
| 09:53.04 | Arrowmaster | seems the bindings dont have class restrictions on them anymore |
| 09:53.21 | Shefki | Removed for DK's |
| 09:53.26 | Arrowmaster | i know a dk got a thunderfury not long after wotlk release |
| 09:54.17 | Trela | Still up to major chance. |
| 09:54.44 | Jamash | hey I got the bunny ears |
| 09:57.50 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19019 |
| 09:57.53 | cncfanatics | rewarded from quest |
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| 10:04.31 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: from an egg? |
| 10:05.19 | Arrowmaster | lets see now all i need to do is shake my bunny maker at a female gnome and dwarf |
| 10:05.36 | Arrowmaster | i bought the pet first, then i found two of them.... |
| 10:06.01 | Arrowmaster | i bought the spring robes then did the achievement with it, and just now found another one |
| 10:06.19 | Arrowmaster | i bought the ears for fun and havent found one of those yet |
| 10:06.37 | Arrowmaster | and i found everything else |
| 10:08.00 | mikma | fucking campers in eu servers |
| 10:08.07 | mikma | just stay in one spot and keep looting the eggs |
| 10:08.24 | Trela | Mikma, Horde or Alliance? |
| 10:08.44 | mikma | i don't think it matters, they are all camping ^^ |
| 10:08.58 | Trela | There is a great spot in Razor Hill to mass farm that people sort of ignore. |
| 10:09.07 | Trela | Behind the Inn, an out cropping of rocks. |
| 10:09.15 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 10:09.23 | mikma | well i'm alliance, and i tired 3 different towns |
| 10:10.41 | mikma | back to leveling i guess |
| 10:10.59 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i can pick up horde eggs |
| 10:11.35 | mikma | you can |
| 10:11.47 | mikma | (haven't tried but that's what i think haha) |
| 10:14.49 | Jamash | bunny ears look really weird on a troll with a mohawk |
| 10:15.20 | zenzelezz | "The main reason why the Sony brand wasn't really used in the early marketing of PlayStation was not necessarily out of choice, but it was because Sony's old guard was scared that it was going to destroy this wonderful, venerable, 50-year old brand. They saw Nintendo and Sega as toys, so why on Earth would they join the toy business? That changed a bit after we delivered 90 per cent of the company's profit for a few years" |
| 10:15.21 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 10:19.52 | Wobin | I <3 u jnwhiteh |
| 10:19.59 | Arrowmaster | rolf wtf, so everything on my actionbars that uses shards says i have 12 soul shards, except create healthstone that says i have 4 |
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| 10:23.24 | Jamash | tux shirt acquired! |
| 10:24.05 | Arrowmaster | i got 5 of them |
| 10:27.02 | haste | still need pants :( |
| 10:27.02 | Jamash | two! |
| 10:29.25 | nevcairiel | i only got the pet and 2 bunny ears :( |
| 10:30.30 | Jamash | so what can't you find in an egg? |
| 10:30.36 | Arrowmaster | so you can get bunny ears from eggs |
| 10:30.38 | Wobin | we need a 'shuck eggs' cork |
| 10:31.20 | Arrowmaster | so the only thing you need to purchase is one nobblegarden egg to plant in silvermoon/<whatever alliance town> |
| 10:33.42 | Jamash | I've done that, so I guess I should just wait and see what I get from eggs before buying anything |
| 10:35.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah eat your 200 first |
| 10:35.47 | Arrowmaster | and my wow is locked up and i cant kill it |
| 10:36.03 | Arrowmaster | because ctrl-shift-esc isnt giving me a task manager |
| 10:36.21 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: ctrl+alt+delete |
| 10:36.30 | Arrowmaster | then ill lock up even more |
| 10:36.43 | Jamash | om nom nom nom |
| 10:36.50 | Mikk | erm ctrl+alt+delete pops task managers as of ages ago |
| 10:37.03 | Arrowmaster | so does ctrl-shift-esc |
| 10:37.39 | Jamash | is it eat 100 or 200? |
| 10:37.49 | Arrowmaster | 100 |
| 10:39.45 | Spellbinder | OM NOM NOM |
| 10:40.04 | Arrowmaster | so now my task manager has locked up |
| 10:40.08 | Arrowmaster | but wow is killed |
| 10:41.11 | Arrowmaster | ctrl-alt-delete isnt doing anything....... |
| 10:41.24 | Mikk | exciting |
| 10:41.42 | Arrowmaster | buy me a new computer |
| 10:45.15 | Jamash | 3 shirts, no pants |
| 10:46.27 | batrick | Man, don't watch south park while trying to play blitz chess. |
| 10:47.53 | Jamash | hahahaha |
| 10:48.02 | nevcairiel | Jamash: no pants day is only on friday, not today! |
| 10:48.22 | Jamash | Flowers! Yes! |
| 10:50.50 | Jamash | PANTS |
| 10:51.19 | Cairenn | steals nevcairiel's pants |
| 10:52.40 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: so that's why they look so funny at me most of the week at work |
| 10:52.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:54.13 | Jamash | when I was adding up all the achievements on the PTR I didn't know you could get the gear from eggs, so I assumed I'd have to buy it all |
| 11:00.42 | mikma | ooh |
| 11:00.49 | mikma | is the alarm ingame account wide? |
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| 11:10.43 | Jamash | well, now I can dual-wield flowers |
| 11:13.18 | mikma | and yes! alarms are account wide |
| 11:13.19 | mikma | wooooo |
| 11:13.53 | Arrowmaster | alarms? |
| 11:14.29 | foxlit | stopwatch |
| 11:14.57 | Arrowmaster | the game stores those? |
| 11:15.20 | Fisker- | yo momma |
| 11:15.27 | Fisker- | mikma |
| 11:15.31 | Fisker- | you owe me one 24" monitar |
| 11:19.21 | mikma | fisker-: you own me a new highend pc |
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| 11:21.39 | mikma | here's a hint |
| 11:21.42 | Fisker- | sends mikma a 1981 IBM PC |
| 11:21.47 | Fisker- | where's my monitar? |
| 11:21.53 | mikma | Brightly Colored Egg's ... they are around Shattrath too |
| 11:22.06 | mikma | at the same location where the 1981 IBM PC is |
| 11:22.13 | Fisker- | :o |
| 11:26.39 | Trela | I do not see any in Shattrath. <.< >.> |
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| 11:53.05 | Jamash | wahoo, I has all the items |
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| 12:00.59 | Etanol_ | how do I test the input of my USB controller? |
| 12:02.06 | Mikk | blinks |
| 12:02.41 | Mikk | mischan? |
| 12:03.05 | Etanol | ~mischan |
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| 12:40.29 | Kemayo | Poor Blizzard event designers. All that hinting that you should be dashing around, and Goldshire is filled with people sitting on spawn points. |
| 12:41.02 | zenzelezz | not just Goldshire. Every place |
| 12:41.28 | Kemayo | I did some comparisons. I found eggs about 4-5 times as fast while dashing around. :D |
| 12:41.53 | Fisker- | well technically if there are enough people looting eggs it would be possible |
| 12:41.54 | zenzelezz | dashing around where? |
| 12:43.18 | jnwhiteh | I find them all over the place with my addon |
| 12:43.20 | jnwhiteh | people hate me :P |
| 12:43.26 | jnwhiteh | i'm getting them 4-5 times faster than they are |
| 12:43.27 | jnwhiteh | *cackle* |
| 12:43.28 | Fisker- | meh |
| 12:43.31 | Fisker- | they're easy to find |
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| 12:44.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 12:44.16 | jnwhiteh | i just like easier LP |
| 12:44.21 | Kemayo | zenzelezz: Goldshire. (And I'm using clad's addon.) |
| 12:44.37 | jnwhiteh | how many chocolates do i need ot buy everythign i need? |
| 12:44.43 | Stanzilla | ~300 |
| 12:44.45 | Fisker- | don't buy it |
| 12:44.46 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 12:44.55 | Stanzilla | but you don't get achievements for buying cloth etc |
| 12:44.59 | Fisker- | I got all of the items (but the spring circlet) before i had 100 chocolates |
| 12:45.00 | Stanzilla | *ing |
| 12:45.01 | Kemayo | Though I did find that after the first 5-10 minutes I didn't really need the addon any more |
| 12:45.02 | zenzelezz | I rode around Goldshire a little at first, couldn't spot any... then all the people camping the town made me wonder if they only spawned there o_O |
| 12:45.03 | jnwhiteh | I have 2 branches, and 1 spring flowers |
| 12:45.06 | jnwhiteh | oh you need the circlet? |
| 12:45.11 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: i've done way more than that |
| 12:45.12 | Fisker- | naw |
| 12:45.33 | jnwhiteh | and still dont have em |
| 12:46.13 | Fisker- | Gotten like 3 tuxedo shirts, 2 tuxedo pants, 1 spring circlet, 1 dress, 3 spring flower dresses, 4-5 branches, 2 pets and 3 flowerthingies in less than 200 chocolates |
| 12:46.15 | Stanzilla | I bought the pet for 100 chocolates and found it 2 eggs later :( |
| 12:46.15 | jnwhiteh | but i'm leveling now :P |
| 12:46.16 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 12:46.47 | jnwhiteh | well i dont plan to buy anything |
| 12:46.54 | jnwhiteh | until i have exactly enough to buy what i need |
| 12:46.56 | jnwhiteh | so there's no waste |
| 12:47.08 | jnwhiteh | what items do you NEED |
| 12:47.08 | Kemayo | the only thing I had to buy was the spring robes. Now I'm travelling around doing the planting/etc. |
| 12:47.10 | jnwhiteh | to do achievements? |
| 12:47.56 | Fisker- | All but the circlet |
| 12:47.58 | Fisker- | as far as i recall |
| 12:48.07 | Stanzilla | pet is no achievement |
| 12:48.17 | Fisker- | yes it is |
| 12:48.20 | Kemayo | Pet is Spring Fling. |
| 12:48.25 | Fisker- | You need to make baby bunnies :3 |
| 12:48.45 | jnwhiteh | you need tux pants? |
| 12:48.46 | Kemayo | Oh, and you have to actually *find* the shirt/pants/dress for their acheivements. |
| 12:49.01 | Fisker- | ye |
| 12:49.21 | Kemayo | just buying 'em doesn't count for the achievement. |
| 12:49.21 | foxlit | but you probably don't care about those achievements. |
| 12:49.29 | Fisker- | i just went for the 100 chocolate achievement right away |
| 12:49.32 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: ah true :/ |
| 12:49.33 | Kemayo | Though the meta-acheivement doesn't require the finding ones. |
| 12:49.48 | Kemayo | So if all you care about is the proto-drake, it doesn't matter. :) |
| 12:49.55 | Fisker- | spring flower achievement is lame though |
| 12:50.00 | Fisker- | 5 minutes cooldown |
| 12:50.03 | Fisker- | it enrages me |
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| 12:51.02 | Kemayo | It's a pain. |
| 12:51.15 | Fisker- | brunnhildar village <3 though |
| 12:51.27 | Kemayo | I just discovered that you have to do it on someone who doesn't already have the ears, too. So that's one cooldown wasted. |
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| 12:55.44 | Kemayo | There's, like, 15 of us crowded around a lone female Orc in Dalaran. |
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| 13:05.30 | Wobin | what's the circlet for? |
| 13:05.42 | mikma | wobin: it's, pretty |
| 13:07.16 | Wobin | actually |
| 13:07.21 | Wobin | I was sitting north of the inn at Brill |
| 13:07.30 | Wobin | Two window ledges, a cart and a wagon |
| 13:07.35 | Wobin | 7 spawn points |
| 13:07.42 | Wobin | I was getting them faster than running around |
| 13:08.19 | Wobin | although, still, <3 jnwhiteh eggfinder |
| 13:08.26 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:08.33 | jnwhiteh | darn running is the best |
| 13:08.36 | Wobin | where'd you get the sound effects from? |
| 13:08.40 | jnwhiteh | i mean in darnassus |
| 13:08.43 | jnwhiteh | they're all in game |
| 13:08.44 | jnwhiteh | except the ting |
| 13:08.47 | jnwhiteh | wowwiki |
| 13:08.51 | jnwhiteh | mass copy/paste and then edit |
| 13:08.52 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:10.12 | Wobin | haven't found the dress |
| 13:10.16 | Wobin | went and bought the pet |
| 13:10.29 | Wobin | everything else I got (aside from the circlet?) |
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| 13:11.33 | jnwhiteh | Spring Flowers |
| 13:11.33 | Wobin | 6 Spring Flowers >< |
| 13:11.37 | Cide | halo |
| 13:11.38 | jnwhiteh | has charges, or re-usable? |
| 13:11.45 | jnwhiteh | seems like it doesn't wear out |
| 13:11.52 | mikma | i kept flying around in front of shattrath |
| 13:11.53 | Wobin | reusable |
| 13:11.57 | mikma | it's slow, but atleast i can loot the eggs |
| 13:12.02 | Wobin | with a 5min cooldown |
| 13:12.05 | mikma | all the other places are *full* of campers |
| 13:12.11 | mikma | 2-3 in same spot |
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| 13:13.34 | Wobin | Desert Rose is remarkably easy |
| 13:13.38 | Wobin | with flightpoints |
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| 13:58.29 | Torhal | Seeing a bunny hearth is kinda funny. |
| 13:58.36 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 13:58.51 | Fisker- | hey jnwhiteh |
| 13:59.22 | jnwhiteh | hi |
| 13:59.51 | Fisker- | i am harassing you :( |
| 14:00.14 | mikma | ignore |
| 14:03.44 | Fisker- | i'd like to see you try |
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| 14:13.29 | Aelobin | wheres the best place to farm oshugun crystal powder :P |
| 14:15.52 | zenzelezz | Nagrand |
| 14:16.04 | Wobin | do the ogres |
| 14:16.11 | Wobin | cause they drop the beads at the same time |
| 14:18.20 | Torhal | Fisker-: I hate along with you |
| 14:18.31 | Torhal | Ran from CoT to Un'Goro |
| 14:18.33 | Torhal | Fucking fell. |
| 14:18.59 | Torhal | ANY damage nukes the bunny suit |
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| 15:22.21 | airtonix | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=92081 |
| 15:22.46 | airtonix | " Full-on Lisa Frank makeover for everything. You'd be riding a pink unicorn mount on the ground and a purple pegasus for your flying mount. " |
| 15:35.37 | Wobin | =( Whar is Kirkburn =( |
| 15:45.36 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:45.47 | Wobin | "This holiday is like fishing, but with people stealing your bobber" |
| 15:47.34 | kluge | can anyone give me any tips on a shockadin? |
| 15:56.06 | mikma | wings and go |
| 15:56.26 | Fisker- | so it's you eh Wobin ? |
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| 16:21.05 | jnwhiteh | had to buy the pet and the robes |
| 16:21.06 | jnwhiteh | oh well |
| 16:21.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:23.19 | mikma | oh noes |
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| 16:28.42 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: do you have a good suggestion for an egg camping spot? |
| 16:28.44 | Legorol | :) |
| 16:28.55 | Legorol | i get them very slowly due to people camping it all |
| 16:29.02 | Wobin | horde or ally? |
| 16:29.07 | Legorol | alli |
| 16:29.29 | Legorol | so far i found the ruins of silvermoon to be the best actually, not many alli got clued up on that, and no horde around :o) |
| 16:29.37 | Legorol | plus, no guards spawn for some reason to hassle you |
| 16:30.10 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: I used Dolnaar |
| 16:30.29 | jnwhiteh | it can handle 4-5 without having any delay |
| 16:30.37 | jnwhiteh | more than that and it gets a bit crowded, but everyone always forgets it |
| 16:30.40 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: camped crazy |
| 16:30.47 | Legorol | on my realm at least |
| 16:30.48 | jnwhiteh | gah that sucks :P |
| 16:30.51 | jnwhiteh | druids can get to it easy |
| 16:30.53 | jnwhiteh | so no wonder P |
| 16:31.04 | Legorol | on my realm in every alliance town every egg spot is camped, literally |
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| 16:31.09 | Legorol | a lot of them have 2-3 people on it |
| 16:31.18 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: yeah |
| 16:31.24 | Wobin | shammies too |
| 16:31.31 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13245-HandyEggFinder.html in case you didn't see it =) |
| 16:31.38 | Wobin | but what you can do to help, is equip the basket and keep the buff up |
| 16:31.48 | Wobin | since the cooldown lasts as long as the buff does |
| 16:31.55 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 16:32.12 | Wobin | Unfortunately I only have hordeside suggestions =( |
| 16:32.17 | Legorol | go go |
| 16:32.20 | Legorol | i can get to horde towns :) |
| 16:32.32 | Wobin | well |
| 16:32.37 | Legorol | on my realm, a typical horde town has 10-15 ally in it :) |
| 16:32.41 | Wobin | you'll be standing north of the Inn at Brill |
| 16:32.45 | Wobin | facing it |
| 16:32.56 | Wobin | You have two windowledges, a cart and a carriage close at hand |
| 16:32.59 | Wobin | 7 spawnspots |
| 16:33.20 | Wobin | there's also another spot further to the back of the inn |
| 16:33.27 | Wobin | in some bushes that has access to about four spots |
| 16:33.35 | Legorol | ooh nice, i'll try that |
| 16:33.37 | Wobin | HEF will help there =) |
| 16:33.41 | Legorol | HEF? |
| 16:33.46 | Wobin | points up |
| 16:34.04 | Wobin | Clad's addon |
| 16:35.10 | jnwhiteh | i'm gonna make it generalpurpose after this |
| 16:35.14 | jnwhiteh | i miss that a ton from the old days |
| 16:35.17 | jnwhiteh | tooltip tracker |
| 16:35.27 | jnwhiteh | sends a quick notificaiton when you mouse over a pattern you ask for |
| 16:35.40 | Wobin | Cork needs a "Shuck Egg" option =P |
| 16:36.30 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 16:36.32 | Torhal | Zomg it's an egg! And someone else ninja'd it! |
| 16:37.05 | Wobin | Torhal: as I said earlier - "This holiday is like fishing, but with people stealing your bobber" =P |
| 16:37.19 | foxlit | Link a configuration UI screenshot you're particularly happy with :) |
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| 16:38.40 | Duman | hrm |
| 16:40.05 | Torhal | Indeed |
| 16:40.43 | Torhal | I are in ur noblegarden, stealin ur eggz |
| 16:42.23 | Legorol | if i have a macro that has two /cast in it, the first one is an instant which is not on GCD, |
| 16:42.30 | Legorol | will the second /cast fail if the first spell is still on cooldown? |
| 16:42.40 | Legorol | for example, the typical /cast NS /cast HT macro |
| 16:42.48 | Legorol | if NS is on cooldown, HT will fail, right? |
| 16:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 16:42.54 | ScytheBlade1 | err no |
| 16:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | HT will start casting |
| 16:44.54 | nevcairiel | indeed it will |
| 16:44.57 | nevcairiel | i use that macro alot |
| 16:47.58 | Legorol | so you can pass through things on cooldown? |
| 16:48.03 | Legorol | does the same apply to trinkets? |
| 16:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 16:49.13 | Legorol | so trinket+instant+cast spell will work even if trinket+instant on cooldown? |
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| 16:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 16:50.34 | jnwhiteh | most NS/HT macros are /use 13 /use 14 /cast Nature's Swiftness /cast Healing Touch =) |
| 16:52.53 | Wobin | counts for anything that doesn't trigger the gcd |
| 16:53.23 | nevcairiel | I hate use-able trinkets =P |
| 16:53.30 | nevcairiel | as a healer, that is |
| 16:53.47 | mikma | nevcairiel: i hate them no matter the role |
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| 16:54.04 | nevcairiel | a last stand button on a trinket is kinda nice for tanks |
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| 16:54.42 | kluge | is it that hard to pop a trink during a gcd?? |
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| 16:54.47 | Duman | Long live Lifegiving Gem!@! |
| 16:54.47 | Duman | ;-) |
| 16:55.24 | kluge | i got these two sick trinks for my shockadin ill link them |
| 16:55.57 | kluge | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28785 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38072 |
| 16:56.11 | jnwhiteh | useable trinkets suck |
| 16:56.16 | jnwhiteh | but they are all i have =/ |
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| 16:58.10 | zenzelezz | I prefer passive trinkets by far |
| 16:58.45 | zenzelezz | combi passive/active are okay, but I still forget to use them; and usually the Use action isn't that much of interest anyway |
| 16:58.52 | nevcairiel | kluge: its not hard to pop a trinket, but as a healer it doesnt make sense .. how do i know that in the next ~15-20 seconds i'll need the extra spellpower/haste/whateva |
| 16:59.03 | nevcairiel | the only on-use trinkets i can live with are mana-regen trinekts |
| 16:59.09 | kluge | you have to put the button to use the trinket in an obnoxious place u cant miss it. and use it everytime its cooled down until your used to it. |
| 16:59.24 | kluge | nev one trink i liked for healing was bangle of endless blessings |
| 16:59.29 | kluge | it gave me a lot of mana |
| 16:59.33 | kluge | and a sp equip |
| 16:59.37 | kluge | mana on use |
| 16:59.51 | Duman | yeah, bangle was nice |
| 17:00.39 | Wobin | I never remember to use them =\ |
| 17:00.45 | kluge | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28370 oh its not a sp equip |
| 17:00.48 | kluge | but yah its good for healing |
| 17:01.15 | Duman | ahh, extra mana-while-casting |
| 17:01.17 | Wobin | hehe I used to use the On Use for Innervate |
| 17:01.24 | Wobin | before they changed innervate =( |
| 17:01.36 | Duman | stupid ooc mana regen nerf |
| 17:02.08 | kluge | i was stacking int for a while before it so i dont really notice except when i have to drink |
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| 17:03.00 | Wobin | <3 black jelly as a tank |
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| 17:03.11 | Duman | hehe |
| 17:03.41 | Duman | back when wrath came out, those borean man-o-wars were white but no use |
| 17:03.50 | Duman | people had them on the AH for like 20s a stack |
| 17:03.58 | Duman | so I bought like 2 bags full ;) |
| 17:04.12 | Duman | 'cuz I knew somethign would come of them |
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| 17:04.50 | zenzelezz | I've given up trying to eat to heal up as a tank. Healers just spam me anyway |
| 17:05.04 | Wobin | zenzelezz: it's nice for soloing |
| 17:05.22 | zenzelezz | fair enough |
| 17:05.25 | kluge | i had this trick where i could drink some brewfest drink at the same time as a regular drink.. i hope that works next brewfest |
| 17:05.30 | zenzelezz | I just tend to hit Enraged Regeneration |
| 17:06.35 | foxlit | Healer policy #432: if you die while my Rejuvenation is on you, it's *your* fault for taking too much damage. |
| 17:06.46 | Wobin | hehe, Raise Dead+DeathPact |
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| 17:08.26 | Torhal | Heh. warcraftpets.com is apparently getting hammered. |
| 17:08.43 | foxlit | <3 over-geared tanks while being an under-geared healer |
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| 17:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ennokni.deviantart.com/art/Daily-Life-117834930 |
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| 17:14.07 | Ose | so, has anyone made a noblegarden addon yet? |
| 17:14.42 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 17:14.45 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13245-HandyEggFinder.html |
| 17:15.00 | Ose | thanks |
| 17:15.04 | jnwhiteh | 10 hours ago :P |
| 17:15.14 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Speed demon! |
| 17:15.24 | Ackis | pfft jnwhiteh nobelgarden started 14 hours ago! slacker |
| 17:15.31 | jnwhiteh | I NO |
| 17:15.33 | jnwhiteh | I SO SLOW |
| 17:15.42 | Torhal | Ackis: Don't make him camp your eggs. |
| 17:15.53 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SfNs1ef87UI/AAAAAAAAGnQ/RBDQx8iFVs0/s1600-h/customs+dogs.jpg |
| 17:15.58 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: Slash command slacker! 8-) |
| 17:16.04 | jnwhiteh | psh |
| 17:16.10 | jnwhiteh | i was going out for the morning |
| 17:16.14 | jnwhiteh | and /run is a slash command |
| 17:16.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:16.43 | Ackis | i just wonder if dwarf females exist :P |
| 17:17.17 | Torhal | Ackis: Heh |
| 17:17.21 | Ackis | and why is it still snowing here? :( |
| 17:17.33 | Wobin | Ackis: Brunnhildir Village. Go. Find a male dwarf and zap them there |
| 17:18.17 | Torhal | Why is it that the people who 'typ lik there txting ask 4 help wid lau"? |
| 17:18.34 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 17:18.37 | Wobin | actually jnwhiteh, you could extend HEF to ping on any female over 18 race that you haven't got the achievement for, if your flowers are off cooldown =) |
| 17:18.55 | jnwhiteh | feel free to submit a patch =) |
| 17:19.00 | Torhal | Wobin: I think it's illegal in most places to ping on any female under 18. |
| 17:19.03 | jnwhiteh | then we'll submit to wowinsider =) |
| 17:19.13 | Wobin | Torhal: That's why I suggested over =) |
| 17:19.18 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:19.43 | Ackis | wow these douches are camping the fishing daily spot lol |
| 17:19.59 | Torhal | It probably has eggs in it. Or they think it does. |
| 17:19.59 | Wobin | Torhal: As the saying goes, "If someone feels justified in saying plz because it's shorter than "please", I feel perfectly justified in saying "no" cause it's shorter than "yes" |
| 17:20.08 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 17:20.42 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: or if you wanna give me a snippet to get the race of the unit on the tooltip, and the races we have left to do |
| 17:20.43 | jnwhiteh | i can add it |
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| 17:21.25 | Wobin | I would, but I'm about to go to bed |
| 17:21.35 | Wobin | (already too late for me =\) |
| 17:21.47 | Wobin | maybe tomorrow if you don't get around to it =) |
| 17:22.02 | zenzelezz | you're off to bed, so you want an addon to find females over 18... o_O |
| 17:22.27 | Wobin | well |
| 17:22.36 | Wobin | that's better than trying to find ones under 18 |
| 17:23.08 | zenzelezz | what about those exactly 18? |
| 17:23.22 | Wobin | They clearly have a year's grace |
| 17:23.25 | Wobin | anyway |
| 17:23.27 | Wobin | goodnight =) |
| 17:24.16 | theorbtwo | I'd have thought the requirement would be >= 18. |
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| 17:26.21 | malikeye | anybody know how I can get clique to work with the diablo 3 dynamic orbs mod ? |
| 17:26.44 | malikeye | I can right click the health orb and it responds, but it doesn't respond to clique clicks |
| 17:27.23 | foxlit | needs to register as a unit frame |
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| 17:27.35 | malikeye | I was thinking it would a strata thing |
| 17:27.39 | jnwhiteh | ClickCastFrames[frameObject] = true |
| 17:27.40 | malikeye | speak of the devil :D |
| 17:28.54 | malikeye | can I just drop that in the LUA anywhere ? |
| 17:29.03 | krka | malikeye: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA ^_^ |
| 17:29.17 | malikeye | k |
| 17:29.48 | malikeye | Spellshaper: I am referring to your diablo orbs... trying to get clique to work with it |
| 17:30.19 | jnwhiteh | you first should check ClickCastFrames = ClickCastFrames or {} |
| 17:30.22 | jnwhiteh | to make sur ethe table exists |
| 17:30.29 | jnwhiteh | bu then you need to register each button in the table. |
| 17:31.07 | malikeye | ugh, yeah... I'm not anywhere near being a developer... I'll have to spend some time with that one :D |
| 17:31.17 | Kaelten | .dk |
| 17:31.21 | Kaelten | what country is that |
| 17:31.29 | Torhal | Germany |
| 17:31.36 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 17:31.47 | foxlit | *cough*de*cough* |
| 17:31.49 | jnwhiteh | isn't in Denmark? |
| 17:31.52 | Torhal | Bah |
| 17:31.59 | Kaelten | denmark could make sesne |
| 17:32.02 | Torhal | Ok, that's proof that two hours sleep is simply not enough |
| 17:32.04 | Kaelten | yeah german is de |
| 17:32.08 | Kaelten | ~comfort torhal |
| 17:32.10 | jnwhiteh | its Denmark, almost positive |
| 17:32.18 | Kaelten | I wake up today finding that one of our servers has been compromised |
| 17:32.24 | Torhal | Gah |
| 17:32.30 | jnwhiteh | neat, which one? |
| 17:32.33 | jnwhiteh | neat rather |
| 17:32.34 | Kaelten | wor |
| 17:32.41 | jnwhiteh | bastards |
| 17:32.44 | Kaelten | there is no evidence of them actually gaining access to the machine via ssh |
| 17:32.59 | Kaelten | but we know someone got in to the machine |
| 17:33.04 | Kaelten | somehow |
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| 17:33.26 | Kaelten | it was completely custom written... so it's possible they gained access through a code vulnability |
| 17:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 17:34.24 | zenzelezz | in what was has it been compromised? |
| 17:34.24 | Kaelten | that and we previously found a backdoor we're thinking a previous employee left... |
| 17:34.44 | Fisker- | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:34.48 | foxlit | The time for careful investigation is past. |
| 17:34.48 | Fisker- | rages |
| 17:34.54 | foxlit | Now is the time for senseless panic! |
| 17:34.54 | Kaelten | they replaced a js file |
| 17:35.22 | Fisker- | and yeah |
| 17:35.24 | Fisker- | it's dkdk |
| 17:35.31 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: you would know |
| 17:35.36 | jnwhiteh | being on DKavencrest |
| 17:35.52 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 17:35.57 | Fisker- | also knowing being danish etc. |
| 17:35.57 | Iriel | May I recommend the WoW UI forum for all your senseless panic needs? |
| 17:36.01 | jnwhiteh | thats why i was so sure |
| 17:36.02 | Fisker- | So what did they do? :3 |
| 17:36.04 | jnwhiteh | Okay |
| 17:36.09 | jnwhiteh | need to havea baby in Goldshire and Kharanos |
| 17:36.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: ha |
| 17:36.29 | jnwhiteh | then need to hit up some 18 year olds |
| 17:36.38 | Industrial | wait what |
| 17:36.49 | Industrial | that usually happens chronologically jnwhiteh |
| 17:37.52 | Kaelten | Iriel: hehe, well at least there is no thread for wm or curse atm |
| 17:37.53 | Kaelten | *Cheers* |
| 17:39.33 | Fisker- | starts one |
| 17:40.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: inc b& |
| 17:44.04 | jnwhiteh | How long would it take me to level to 18? |
| 17:44.52 | jnwhiteh | and what would be the most effective way to plevel someone to 18? |
| 17:45.00 | Iriel | Have them create a DK? |
| 17:45.19 | jnwhiteh | oh jesus |
| 17:45.20 | jnwhiteh | duh |
| 17:45.52 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh |
| 17:45.55 | Fisker- | BRUNHILDAR VILLAGE |
| 17:46.03 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 17:46.22 | Fisker- | You're made into a female |
| 17:46.22 | Fisker- | duh |
| 17:46.51 | Iriel | You LOOK LIKE a female, but are you actually considered female? |
| 17:46.59 | Fisker- | you are considered female |
| 17:47.16 | Fisker- | Even emotes work like you are female |
| 17:47.22 | Fisker- | For it example it'll say her instead of his |
| 17:47.46 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 17:47.52 | jnwhiteh | you can get to argent tournament at 75 |
| 17:47.54 | Iriel | Amusingly i've never been there with a male character, so wouldn't have noticed |
| 17:47.54 | jnwhiteh | I had no idea! |
| 17:48.51 | foxlit | at 75? |
| 17:49.00 | foxlit | i.e. without flight skills. |
| 17:49.14 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 17:49.16 | jnwhiteh | someone will fly you there |
| 17:49.19 | jnwhiteh | from krasus landing |
| 17:49.32 | foxlit | Interesting. That NPC made no such offer to me :( |
| 17:49.41 | jnwhiteh | maybe because you can fly? |
| 17:49.45 | foxlit | Maybe. |
| 17:49.58 | jnwhiteh | any quick primer for the tournament? |
| 17:50.01 | jnwhiteh | and is it worth doing? |
| 17:50.28 | foxlit | You can get a few rare-level items, and perhaps spare yourself from getting a titansteel weapon crafted. |
| 17:50.41 | foxlit | It's a nice source of gold, too |
| 17:50.50 | jnwhiteh | neat |
| 17:51.18 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: when you do the melee target trials, remember have your shield spell at full charge |
| 17:51.27 | jnwhiteh | alright, lol |
| 17:51.31 | jnwhiteh | i have no idea what you're talking abouit |
| 17:51.38 | Fisker- | anyone know if you'll lose the 4 valiant dailies when you become champion with every faction? |
| 17:51.41 | Fisker- | Cause that'd suck |
| 17:51.41 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: and you can use shield breaker twice in a row on an unshielded ranged target for the 2 credits |
| 17:51.44 | foxlit | Hey, look, a casual! |
| 17:51.45 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: it'll make sense |
| 17:51.46 | foxlit | Lynch! |
| 17:51.47 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: 8-) |
| 17:52.40 | Fisker- | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:53.57 | Fisker- | haha wtf |
| 17:54.11 | Fisker- | Microsoft will not include certain video codecs with lower versions of Windows 7 |
| 17:54.14 | Fisker- | hurr |
| 17:54.14 | Fisker- | durr |
| 17:54.17 | Fisker- | DERP DERP DERP |
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| 17:58.18 | jnwhiteh | bizarre |
| 17:58.20 | jnwhiteh | they will let me fly there |
| 17:58.22 | jnwhiteh | but.. not let me quest |
| 17:58.46 | Iriel | no quests at all? |
| 17:58.52 | jnwhiteh | not a one |
| 17:59.04 | jnwhiteh | Bezzle Blastbolt has a grey one |
| 17:59.11 | jnwhiteh | but Taelis doesn't ahve any |
| 17:59.11 | Iriel | Maybe they let you in so you can watch your friends compete or something? |
| 17:59.15 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 18:03.20 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: and to hear the new music |
| 18:03.32 | jnwhiteh | and the cheering everytime you talk to someone :P |
| 18:04.20 | jnwhiteh | 77 for cold weather flying, right? |
| 18:04.30 | jnwhiteh | ooh we finished Wrathgate today, that was a bit neat |
| 18:05.34 | Iriel | yeah, to both 8-) |
| 18:05.58 | Fisker- | WHAT ABOUT DUELING? |
| 18:06.17 | jaxdahl | i need an addon that tells me how many times i've been buffed with 'Sprung!' |
| 18:06.36 | Taroven_ | When using SetMinMaxValues on a statusbar, would min be the absolute minimum value of the bar or the current value? (assuming absolute minimum) |
| 18:06.51 | Iriel | Min is the value that shows the bar empty |
| 18:06.56 | Iriel | Max is the value that shows the bar full |
| 18:06.59 | Taroven_ | Awesome, thanks |
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| 18:08.03 | Taroven_ | If I wanted to have it grow in reverse, I assume I'd just set max to min and vise versa? |
| 18:08.08 | Iriel | I suppose to be more 'correct': Min is the MAXIMUM value that shows the bar empty, and Max is the MINIMUM value that shows the bar full |
| 18:08.20 | Iriel | I suspect you might need to invert the value |
| 18:08.34 | Taroven_ | Alright. |
| 18:08.38 | Taroven_ | Thanks Iriel. ^_^ |
| 18:08.40 | Iriel | Or just set Min to 0, max to whatever the range is, and use max - current as your value |
| 18:08.46 | feuerstarter | rejoices, for he release his first addon ^^ soon available on wowinterface.com. Thanks to everyone that helped me get started with wow UI development |
| 18:09.28 | Iriel | feuerstarter: Cool, gratz |
| 18:12.01 | jnwhiteh | when someone says Sunwell, what instance do they mean? |
| 18:12.11 | Taroven_ | Sunwell Plateau |
| 18:12.14 | Fisker- | you should totally go to somalia Iriel |
| 18:12.37 | Iriel | Fisker-: ? |
| 18:13.18 | Fisker- | south park references |
| 18:13.19 | Fisker- | they're fun |
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| 18:15.45 | amro | Fisker-: s/fun/fail/ |
| 18:16.14 | zenzelezz | amro: you make Fisker- a sad panda |
| 18:16.42 | jnwhiteh | Is Sunwell Plateau any good? |
| 18:16.51 | zenzelezz | good in what way? |
| 18:18.39 | jnwhiteh | worth doing |
| 18:18.41 | jnwhiteh | at 75 |
| 18:18.48 | jnwhiteh | i.e. any point? |
| 18:19.02 | sacarasc | There's an achievement at the end! |
| 18:19.05 | zenzelezz | the Kil'jaeden fight is at least memorable, although nowadays it can just be plain zerged :-/ |
| 18:19.15 | amro | jnwhiteh: just for tourism |
| 18:19.23 | jnwhiteh | thought so |
| 18:19.23 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 18:20.03 | Fisker- | everyone makes me a sad panda :( |
| 18:21.15 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:21.21 | jnwhiteh | i may roll a dwarf female DK |
| 18:21.23 | jnwhiteh | just for money |
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| 18:24.24 | Fisker- | fail |
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| 18:31.42 | Taroven_ | Hm... Why is my statusbar being displayed over the status text? Got layers set to overlay for text, artwork for the bar... |
| 18:31.51 | malikeye | Spellshaper: can I query you, I got a question... |
| 18:31.53 | Iriel | Same strata? |
| 18:31.56 | Iriel | Same framelevel? |
| 18:32.15 | Taroven_ | Maybe. *sets up a couple debugs* |
| 18:33.36 | jnwhiteh | Taroven_: because the framelevel of the status bar texture is one higher than the status bar |
| 18:33.43 | jnwhiteh | thus putting it over your text |
| 18:33.47 | jnwhiteh | either lower the level of the status bar |
| 18:33.53 | jnwhiteh | or put the fontstring higher up |
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| 18:34.03 | jnwhiteh | i.e. in a sub-frame |
| 18:34.15 | Taroven_ | Alright. Checking what everything's at atm |
| 18:34.44 | Iriel | Ideally you put them all at the same framelevel and use drawlayer to make it right |
| 18:34.55 | Iriel | though that isn't always practical for complex objets |
| 18:34.59 | Iriel | objeCts |
| 18:35.24 | jnwhiteh | Iriel: what is drawlayer? |
| 18:36.28 | Iriel | BACKGROUND, BORDER, ARTWORK, OVERLAY, HIGHLIGHT |
| 18:36.47 | Iriel | it defines the order font strings and textures are drawn within a (strata, framelevel) |
| 18:37.49 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 18:37.57 | jnwhiteh | just hadn't heard that specific term |
| 18:38.16 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.17 | Taroven_ | Hmm, apparently you can't GetFrameStrata with a fontstring. -.- |
| 18:38.18 | jnwhiteh | status bars are the bug problem :P |
| 18:38.31 | jnwhiteh | Taroven_: indeed, they don't have a strata |
| 18:38.32 | jnwhiteh | their frame does |
| 18:38.37 | Taroven_ | Ah, right |
| 18:38.57 | Taroven_ | I just woke up, don't mind me. =P |
| 18:39.09 | Iriel | The idea is that strata/framelevel arranges FRAMES |
| 18:39.18 | Iriel | drawlayer arranges regions within the frame |
| 18:41.00 | Iriel | framelevel gets a bit overused, IMHO |
| 18:42.33 | Iriel | Everything on the same (strata, framelevel, drawlayer) gets submiutted to the GPU for rendering in parallel, so you get some rendering efficiencies if you keep things on the same level |
| 18:43.03 | Iriel | the flip side of course being that you can't control ordering at that level, so sometimes framelevel is very necessary |
| 18:43.17 | mikma | http://jimcasey.merseyblogs.co.uk/Button_injured_in_horrific_F1_accident.jpg |
| 18:43.47 | Fisker- | DID YOU DO IT? |
| 18:43.48 | Iriel | mikma: tragic |
| 18:44.15 | Kaelten | this just seems absurd |
| 18:44.24 | Iriel | Do you think that was a cry for help? |
| 18:44.29 | Iriel | (awful windows pun) |
| 18:44.38 | Kaelten | Iriel: lol |
| 18:44.43 | jnwhiteh | WHY ARE THERE NO DORF FEMALES! |
| 18:45.00 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: because they are unappealing? |
| 18:45.10 | jnwhiteh | i know =/ |
| 18:45.10 | Iriel | I have a dwarf female paladin,somewhere |
| 18:45.23 | jnwhiteh | That's all I need to be finished. |
| 18:45.54 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: The guy who posted the executable decided to tell me that he's paranoid and "I personally like to know what I'm putting into my browser" in response to my Mycroft post. :D |
| 18:46.01 | Torhal | I find that rather funny. |
| 18:46.03 | jnwhiteh | hahahaha |
| 18:47.16 | Taroven_ | scraps the statusbar |
| 18:47.47 | Taroven_ | Too much cpu... went from 0-0.008 cpu to 0.1. -.- |
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| 19:02.51 | Torhal | http://www.bestactever.com/2009/04/26/the-long-war-music-piracy-in-1897-nytimes/ |
| 19:04.54 | Kraftman | reminds me of http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227046.600-online-gaming-the-victorian-way.html |
| 19:05.18 | Torhal | Heh, nice. |
| 19:08.07 | malikeye | ugh, I think I am gonna get divorced :( |
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| 19:13.59 | Elly | malikeye: why? |
| 19:14.09 | malikeye | in-laws |
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| 19:14.21 | Elly | wow; what's so bad? |
| 19:15.13 | malikeye | long story... jist of it is, they walk all over her and don't respect anyone but themselves |
| 19:15.19 | malikeye | I guess they're all like that :D |
| 19:16.57 | malikeye | which in turn makes me the monster for sticking up for us... bah... it's OT... I was in the wrong window when I type it ^^ there |
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| 19:17.15 | Elly | owch |
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| 19:21.20 | foxlit | Hm, I need a more horde-friendly ground mount |
| 19:21.36 | NightHawkTheSane | "horde friendly"? |
| 19:22.11 | foxlit | Have a choice between the "Hi, I'm from the Lich King" deathcharger, Black "I killed all your racial leaders" War Bear, and Black "Too big to fit anywhere" War Mammonth |
| 19:22.51 | zenzelezz | foxlit: get the ZG raptor |
| 19:22.55 | NightHawkTheSane | brewfst kodo, imo |
| 19:23.31 | p3lim | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16473142230&sid=1 |
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| 19:23.50 | foxlit | Trying to do noblegarden in opposite faction towns makes you hate the WoW PvP mechanics |
| 19:24.02 | foxlit | There's a billion and one odd ways to get flagged for PvP while not being hostile. |
| 19:24.11 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: trying to do anything other than sit in your home city makes you hate the pvp mechanics |
| 19:24.25 | foxlit | PvE server, so I can also walk around freely |
| 19:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe, be careful not to clip winterspring. :P |
| 19:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | er, wintergrasp* |
| 19:25.31 | Fisker- | last week i saw a film |
| 19:25.32 | mikma | foxlit: ED? gathering eggs from horde side? |
| 19:25.38 | Iriel | Fisker-: I think it was a horror film |
| 19:25.46 | Fisker- | idk maybe |
| 19:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: it was for everyone else in the audience ;) |
| 19:27.06 | foxlit | better than dealing with the mess that is alliance level 5 towns |
| 19:27.17 | Iriel | p3lim: replied. |
| 19:27.17 | Fisker- | http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48468.html <-hurr |
| 19:27.35 | mikma | foxlit: did you have a look at the towns? people camping the fucking eggs in same spot |
| 19:27.55 | foxlit | optimal strategy under that population density |
| 19:27.59 | NightHawkTheSane | when they respawn every 20-60s, why not? |
| 19:28.14 | NightHawkTheSane | find a spot where you can reach ~2, and set up camp :P |
| 19:28.23 | p3lim | Iriel: I didnt understand much of the 2nd line you wrote |
| 19:28.29 | amro | foxlit: exactly what got you flagged? |
| 19:28.37 | amro | I'm having problems flagging occasionally |
| 19:28.50 | Iriel | p3lim: when you call SetPoint from a secure template the relative frame must be protected, or one of the special values listed |
| 19:28.56 | p3lim | Iriel: Anyways, it can be set to all the other bags, or bag addons, just not the default backpack |
| 19:29.18 | Torhal | The number and location of egg spawn points is fail. |
| 19:29.52 | Torhal | Then again, I only need three more achievements and I'm done. |
| 19:29.53 | Iriel | p3lim: give me the names of two frames, one that CAN be anchored, and one that cannot |
| 19:30.37 | foxlit | amro: That's exactly it -- can never be sure. |
| 19:30.48 | foxlit | I suspect *looking* at NPCs/PCs the wrong way gets you a flag. |
| 19:30.51 | p3lim | Iriel: possible: ContainerFrame2 not possible: ContainerFrame1 |
| 19:31.11 | amro | foxlit: damaging them in any way flags you for pvp |
| 19:31.17 | amro | this includes thorns and the like |
| 19:31.24 | mikma | ContainerFrame1? |
| 19:31.27 | amro | mirror images and bloodworms will also happily attack enemy NPCs |
| 19:31.32 | p3lim | mikma: yes? |
| 19:31.34 | Iriel | p3lim: stock UI (No bag addons?) |
| 19:31.36 | foxlit | Reflective shields don't activate if you're not PvP tagged and the person attacking you is |
| 19:31.38 | mikma | ain't that MainMenuBarBackPack or sometning |
| 19:31.41 | p3lim | Iriel: stock ui yes |
| 19:31.53 | foxlit | But I'm relatively sure I'm not swinging at people |
| 19:32.11 | Iriel | p3lim: what does /dump ContainerFrame1:IsProtected() versus the same for ContainerFrame2 return? |
| 19:32.13 | p3lim | it does however work with bag addons (atleast cargBags) |
| 19:32.20 | amro | foxlit: are you sure it works for NPCs as well? |
| 19:32.32 | amro | there's no way you'd be flagged out of nowhere, do some investigating |
| 19:32.32 | foxlit | Reasonably, yes. |
| 19:32.44 | p3lim | i dont have the /dump command |
| 19:32.48 | p3lim | ill do print :) |
| 19:32.54 | foxlit | They go to all sorts of precautions to make sure you don't get flagged unless you don't want to -- in ordinary circumstances. |
| 19:33.01 | Iriel | yes, /run print(.....) will be good enough |
| 19:33.16 | Iriel | And also to make sure, when you'er not flagged, you can't grief people who are |
| 19:33.16 | foxlit | For example, if you cast frost nova while running away from guards, they won't actually get frozen in place unless you're tagged. |
| 19:33.20 | p3lim | Iriel: both return double nil |
| 19:33.37 | p3lim | 'nil nil' |
| 19:33.41 | Iriel | p3lim: Wierd, and this is when you've got your code running (not just when you've just logged in)? |
| 19:33.43 | amro | foxlit: I'm guessing you used mirror images at some point |
| 19:34.02 | foxlit | I'm not a mage. |
| 19:34.11 | p3lim | Iriel: Just tested with the addon enabled and disabled, same returns |
| 19:34.18 | amro | foxlit: what are you? |
| 19:34.21 | p3lim | Iriel: Its not currently active though |
| 19:34.23 | Iriel | p3lim: Hm, and no errors ? |
| 19:34.24 | mikma | [22:34:14] ContainerFrame1:IsProtected() => nil, nil |
| 19:34.28 | p3lim | no errors no |
| 19:34.28 | Iriel | p3lim: when it fails to do anything? |
| 19:34.29 | mikma | [22:34:20] ContainerFrame2:IsProtected() => nil, nil |
| 19:34.32 | Iriel | That's wierd |
| 19:34.32 | foxlit | Death knight |
| 19:34.36 | p3lim | it just fails to anchor |
| 19:34.39 | amro | foxlit: blood? |
| 19:34.46 | foxlit | nope |
| 19:34.48 | p3lim | its very weird |
| 19:35.02 | amro | foxlit: erm, what then? |
| 19:35.07 | mikma | foxlit: you still play on the same char? |
| 19:35.16 | foxlit | mikma: among others. |
| 19:35.18 | foxlit | amro: Unholy, mostly. |
| 19:35.21 | p3lim | oApplication does more or less the same as my addon, just for poisons, and it doesnt work with ContainerFrame1 neither |
| 19:35.42 | amro | foxlit: it must be your ghoulie misbehaving |
| 19:35.42 | mikma | foxlit: having fun in Mulgore? :D |
| 19:35.44 | Iriel | p3lim: and you're doing ClearAllPoints first? |
| 19:36.01 | p3lim | Iriel: yes, you can check the code if you want to, its on the wowi svn |
| 19:36.27 | p3lim | anyways, with the code actually active both frames returns '1, nil' by :IsProtected() |
| 19:36.27 | foxlit | But in terms of undocumented ways to get flagged, walking into an opposing faction's inn works. |
| 19:36.41 | p3lim | even tho the herb im using the addon on is in ContainerFrame3 |
| 19:36.59 | foxlit | amro: no pet out, and recount suggests I did 0 damage. |
| 19:37.31 | amro | foxlit: you must have done something, unless you were already flagged |
| 19:37.36 | mikma | foxlit: usually walking in the village works too |
| 19:37.42 | p3lim | Iriel: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=Molinari&path=%2Ftrunk%2FMolinari%2FMolinari.lua |
| 19:38.13 | foxlit | amro: Which I was not. |
| 19:38.38 | foxlit | So with no hostile abilities used, zero damage done, and no other me-affilated units to worry about, I'm having trouble figuring out what that "something" was :) |
| 19:39.07 | amro | foxlit: no aggro, nothing at all? |
| 19:39.42 | foxlit | I do occasionally pull guards by proximity to NPCs, but I just let them beat on me. |
| 19:39.46 | zenzelezz | foxlit: ur in their base, stealing their eggz... what more reason do you need? |
| 19:40.07 | Iriel | p3lim: so you're saying the set point on line 59 is the one that fails silently? |
| 19:40.28 | Iriel | And i'm assuming you're out of combat? |
| 19:41.00 | p3lim | Iriel: line 60 you mean, yes |
| 19:41.15 | p3lim | Iriel: the whole addon doesnt work if youre in combat, so im not |
| 19:41.25 | p3lim | Iriel: see line 55, it stops on conditions |
| 19:42.22 | Iriel | I assume you've tried print(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) to check you've got a sane button? |
| 19:43.01 | foxlit | zenzelezz: all your eggz are belongz to me! |
| 19:43.02 | Iriel | Oh |
| 19:43.06 | Iriel | I think I know your problem |
| 19:43.30 | Iriel | button:SetFrameLevel(GetMouseFocus():GetFrameLevel() + 1) |
| 19:43.42 | Iriel | you're putting your button BEHIND the backpack |
| 19:44.38 | p3lim | Iriel: not that, if i remove the button:Hide() you can see that the glow hangs on the last frame |
| 19:45.23 | Iriel | Can you humor me and at least try it? |
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| 19:45.27 | Iriel | Also, May I suggest.... |
| 19:45.42 | Iriel | local itemFrame = GetMouseFocus() |
| 19:46.01 | Iriel | rather than calling GetMouseFocus again and again and again |
| 19:47.08 | p3lim | i tried changing the framelevel, but you can see that the glow has the old anchors |
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| 19:47.28 | p3lim | and yea, that local was a good suggestion :) |
| 19:48.44 | Iriel | Are you certain your button isn't moving but the shine is just staying behind? |
| 19:48.58 | Iriel | (I haven't looked at the shine template yet, so that may be a no brainer) |
| 19:49.39 | zenzelezz | what is this being anchored to, actual (main) backpack slots? |
| 19:49.54 | Iriel | zenzelezz: that appears to be the intent |
| 19:50.26 | zenzelezz | I haven't entirely followed the conversation, did he try using a plain frame? Did a simple SetAllPoints on one of mine, and it seemed to work |
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| 19:50.31 | p3lim | sec bossfight |
| 19:50.53 | p3lim | zenzelezz: yes i have tried a frame and a button that is not using a securetemplate |
| 19:52.00 | p3lim | zenzelezz: that worked |
| 19:52.31 | p3lim | Iriel: if the button was moving i'd be able to click the item and the real function of the addon would still work, so no, the whole button is behind |
| 19:52.40 | Iriel | p3lim: not if you screwed up the frame level |
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| 19:53.22 | p3lim | the button is parented (atleast should be) to the new item, and the shine is anchored and even parented to the button |
| 19:53.25 | zenzelezz | y helo thar Lopeppeppy |
| 19:53.41 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzelezz! |
| 19:53.47 | foxlit | It's time for the great noblegarden bunny journey |
| 19:53.58 | Iriel | p3lim: Can you at least say for sure that adding the SetFrameLevel I suggested still leaves it not working **AND** not clickable? |
| 19:54.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, fraktastic, is it noblegarden? *rolls eyes* |
| 19:54.07 | p3lim | zenzelezz: the button i create is anchored to UIParent, but is anchored to GetMouseFocus() (which is bag item buttons) |
| 19:54.12 | zenzelezz | foxlit: to Un'goro? |
| 19:54.15 | kd3 | yay achievements |
| 19:54.16 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: yes, until next Sunday |
| 19:54.18 | p3lim | Iriel: i did test it, no difference) |
| 19:54.24 | foxlit | to Un'goro! |
| 19:54.32 | foxlit | (yes, I know about the branch) |
| 19:54.33 | kd3 | <3 being a mage |
| 19:54.37 | kd3 | port, port, port everywhere |
| 19:54.42 | Lopeppeppy | Well hellfire and damnation, I should go see what easy achievements there are for my mid-levels. |
| 19:54.58 | zenzelezz | foxlit: I tried that from Darnassus... had to wait for the boat, was a few minutes late. After that I just hearthed to Dalaran, used the CoT portal and ran |
| 19:54.58 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Noblegarden#Achievements |
| 19:55.03 | p3lim | kd3: inscription and lowbie hs scrolls = ggz ;) |
| 19:55.14 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, kd3! |
| 19:55.28 | foxlit | Someone attached Anachronos. |
| 19:55.35 | kd3 | "It is not yet my time!" |
| 19:55.43 | zenzelezz | foxlit: what did they attach him to? |
| 19:55.46 | foxlit | just a single shaman. |
| 19:57.26 | Elly | who's Anachronos? |
| 19:57.33 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Anachronos |
| 19:57.52 | foxlit | annoying amount of energy required to just dodge regular level 40 mobs |
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| 19:59.04 | Elly | what does it mean to attach him? |
| 19:59.10 | kd3 | he meant 'attack' |
| 19:59.16 | Elly | oh, that makes far more sense :P |
| 19:59.49 | amro | kd3: you clarified before I could make a pun. :/ |
| 19:59.58 | p3lim | Iriel: you're as confused as me? |
| 20:00.03 | Iriel | p3lim: yes |
| 20:00.08 | Iriel | p3lim: investigating |
| 20:00.25 | p3lim | Iriel: thanks for taking your time :) |
| 20:02.25 | foxlit | Iriel, krka: I did end up trying the strategy you suggested yesterday, but, unfortunately, I'm mainly concerned about small values of N, and the difference between the two methods was significant. |
| 20:03.12 | zenzelezz | this "Elegant Dress" isn't so elegant on top of my T7 |
| 20:03.18 | Iriel | foxlit: In that case you care about a SPECIFIC arrangement of boxes |
| 20:03.25 | Iriel | foxlit: we did ask you which you wanted |
| 20:03.49 | foxlit | True enough :) |
| 20:04.38 | Iriel | p3lim: this does smell like a bug |
| 20:04.48 | p3lim | Iriel: blizzard's side? |
| 20:05.17 | Iriel | p3lim: yeah |
| 20:05.25 | Iriel | p3lim: let me try something else just to see where it may be |
| 20:05.43 | p3lim | Iriel: ok |
| 20:05.48 | p3lim | let me know what you find out |
| 20:06.51 | Iriel | p3lim: I can't setpoint against those frames at all, that'sjust wierd |
| 20:07.35 | p3lim | Iriel: it works if the button/frame/whatever aint a secure frame |
| 20:07.41 | p3lim | (ive tested that) |
| 20:08.56 | Iriel | I'll send it on to blizz |
| 20:09.01 | p3lim | Iriel: thanks |
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| 20:11.41 | Shirik | \\]]\]]\]=\]]\]\]\]\]\]\]\]\]\]\=]\=\\\\aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa hjnbnjnhbjnbbjbbghhhhhhnnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhbnjnbhnnjnnjuuhnjbbjnhnhhjjnjnnnjhjjnjjjjjuujkijhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhu ttgyyyyyyggtgyyyyyyyyyyytttttttttttttttttttttttyyggyyyhhhhhhhuhhhhhhhytttttttyyyyyyyyyyyttytyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttyyttt |
| 20:11.44 | Shirik | er |
| 20:11.47 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 20:11.55 | Shirik | hi >.> |
| 20:11.57 | AnduinLothar | ~lart Shirik |
| 20:11.57 | purl | declares Shirik a moron |
| 20:12.03 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: fail |
| 20:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | Good... morning... Shirik. |
| 20:12.12 | mikma | shirik: i agree |
| 20:12.38 | mikma | foxlit: unbelievable that i remembered your charname ^^ |
| 20:13.02 | kd3 | yay for someone spawning the maiden of the lake at just the time I fly down there |
| 20:13.07 | Iriel | p3lim: sent |
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| 20:13.29 | Iriel | kd3: s/spawn/thaw/ |
| 20:13.35 | Fisker- | omg Shirik |
| 20:13.38 | Fisker- | prepare to be ghost |
| 20:13.39 | Fisker- | ed |
| 20:13.57 | kd3 | nope. spawned. the frog one today |
| 20:14.25 | Iriel | kd3: OH! That one |
| 20:14.27 | Iriel | kd3: sorry |
| 20:14.31 | kd3 | no worries |
| 20:22.01 | Lopeppeppy | bah, no update for nQuestLog. Anyone have a recommendation for a replacement? |
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| 20:22.19 | mikma | lopeppeppy: yes, builtin is nice now |
| 20:23.01 | Lopeppeppy | Not so moveable though. *sigh* |
| 20:23.34 | mikma | lopeppeppy: you need to move the questlog? |
| 20:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | I need to do a lot of things to the questlog, actually. |
| 20:24.16 | Lopeppeppy | It's like finding the perfect pair of sunglasses. You break them accidentally, and when you go back to buy a second pair, they've sold out and you're bereft. |
| 20:24.19 | Lopeppeppy | I am bereft. |
| 20:26.42 | amro | Lopeppeppy: except they're not sold out, they have a full stock of... broken sunglasses. |
| 20:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | Ya. *nod* |
| 20:27.07 | Lopeppeppy | *tragic sigh* |
| 20:27.47 | AnduinLothar | Lopeppeppy: that's why i always buy mine at the swap meet for $5-10 each and buy 2 |
| 20:27.49 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: You could try tomQuest2 |
| 20:28.06 | Lopeppeppy | sticks out her tongue at AnduinLothar. |
| 20:33.54 | mikma | that's just cool |
| 20:34.08 | mikma | Kologarn uses his beans, my fps drops into ~3 |
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| 20:34.27 | Fisker- | Lopeppeppy you can move it just fine? |
| 20:34.51 | AbsolutRayne_ | yawn |
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| 20:37.27 | Shirik | o.O |
| 20:37.34 | Shirik | 16:36NickServ1 failed login since last login. |
| 20:37.37 | Shirik | 16:36NickServLast failed attempt from: Fisker-!i=ballmer@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk on Apr 26 20:13:52 2009. |
| 20:37.53 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 20:39.50 | Fisker- | [22:13:52] -> *nickserv* ghost Shirik \\]]\]]\]=\]]\]\]\]\]\]\]\]\]\]\=]\=\\\\aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa hjnbnjnhbjnbbjbbghhhhhhnnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhbnjnbhnnjnnjuuhnjbbjnhnhhjjnjnnnjhjjnjjjjjuujkijhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjhu ttgyyyyyyggtgyyyyyyyyyyytttttttttttttttttttttttyyggyyyhhhhhhhuhhhhhhhytttttttyyyyyyyyyyyttytyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyttttttttttttttttttttttt |
| 20:39.56 | Fisker- | You changed it |
| 20:39.57 | Fisker- | bastard |
| 20:40.15 | Elly | that's quite the password |
| 20:40.15 | Tem | lol. There's a guy spamming trade with "LF run through stocks 3 gold" |
| 20:40.31 | Tem | s/through/thru/ |
| 20:40.46 | Elly | Tem: hah |
| 20:40.52 | Tem | I want to punch him |
| 20:40.54 | Shirik | yes Fisker- |
| 20:40.56 | Shirik | you caught me |
| 20:41.03 | Shirik | that was indeed my password and not me cleaning my keyboard |
| 20:41.05 | Elly | Tem: do it, then leave them in the instance surrounded by mobs :P |
| 20:41.35 | Tem | hmm |
| 20:41.39 | Tem | pull everything |
| 20:41.40 | Tem | frost nova |
| 20:41.50 | Tem | invis |
| 20:41.55 | Tem | teleport |
| 20:42.10 | Tem | yes I rather like that idea |
| 20:42.10 | Shirik | haxor |
| 20:50.13 | Elly | don't frost nova |
| 20:50.18 | Elly | just pull everything, invis, teleport |
| 20:52.09 | Elly | unless you're not arcane, I guess |
| 20:52.13 | Elly | in which case the frost nova is necessary |
| 20:57.23 | Shirik | Java's SSL stuff is kinda.... restrictive |
| 20:57.43 | Elly | Java is kinda restrictive |
| 20:57.45 | jnwhiteh | so i'm done with my new character |
| 20:57.50 | jnwhiteh | "DwarfFemale"' |
| 20:57.54 | jnwhiteh | a deathknight |
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| 20:58.32 | jnwhiteh | now to try and make money off it |
| 20:58.59 | mikma | hahaha |
| 20:59.02 | mikma | that's smart |
| 20:59.32 | Iriel | Shirik: how so? |
| 20:59.43 | jnwhiteh | can anyone think of any good hiding spots in IF? |
| 20:59.47 | Stanzilla | I tried that yesterday, you have to finish the DK questline for people to see you btw |
| 20:59.52 | jnwhiteh | so I can make peopel pay me to find where I am |
| 20:59.55 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: I've done that |
| 20:59.59 | Stanzilla | ok :) |
| 21:00.14 | jnwhiteh | at LHC now |
| 21:01.14 | Iriel | jnwhiteh: I'd imagine upstairs in one of the empty stores |
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| 21:05.27 | jnwhiteh | indeed, good call |
| 21:06.45 | mikma | jnwhiteh: at the second floor of mage/priest/paladin trainer |
| 21:06.54 | jnwhiteh | ooh |
| 21:06.57 | jnwhiteh | tricky! |
| 21:07.11 | krka | er |
| 21:07.14 | krka | what are you doing precisely? |
| 21:07.14 | mikma | jnwhiteh: hey i know couple of good places hehe, i'll come and show |
| 21:07.28 | jnwhiteh | krka: selling my body |
| 21:07.32 | mikma | whoooore |
| 21:07.35 | krka | O_o |
| 21:07.36 | jnwhiteh | my level 18+ dwarf female body |
| 21:07.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:07.46 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.55 | nevcairiel | dwarf female i got |
| 21:07.59 | nevcairiel | orc female is hard .( |
| 21:08.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:08.43 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: i had like 10 orc females |
| 21:08.43 | mikma | jnwhiteh: the building next to guild-shit is quite good too |
| 21:08.47 | jnwhiteh | dorfs are so rare on this server |
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| 21:09.18 | krka | oh well, no one seems to want to explain the funny so i'll just go to bed instead |
| 21:09.23 | Fisker- | selling my level <18 body |
| 21:09.34 | ajmitch | krka: noblegarden |
| 21:10.03 | Elly | krka: there's a quest that requires you to give a flower to a female of each race |
| 21:10.12 | Elly | is a forsaken female, actually |
| 21:11.34 | Shirik | forsaken females are ok |
| 21:11.38 | Shirik | you find a lot less orc females |
| 21:11.42 | Shirik | I think we have 1 in my guild |
| 21:16.02 | Shirik | java.io.IOException: java.security.UnrecoverableKeyException: Password must not be null |
| 21:16.04 | Shirik | cries |
| 21:16.14 | Shirik | Java is meanie |
| 21:16.25 | Iriel | Because it tells you when you suck? 8-) |
| 21:16.41 | Shirik | The key is being loaded programatically and is never going to be permanently stored |
| 21:16.44 | Shirik | why should I have to have a password |
| 21:16.48 | Iriel | Try "" |
| 21:17.15 | Iriel | or generate a random throwaway password |
| 21:27.58 | zenzelezz | Shirik: set the default password to "java.security.UnrecoverableKeyException" |
| 21:28.02 | zenzelezz | or "null" |
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| 21:30.39 | Lopeppeppy | wants dinner. Hmm. |
| 21:30.52 | zenzelezz | offers Lopeppeppy some Noblegarden Chocolate |
| 21:31.06 | Lopeppeppy | Can not has! I am on a no-chocolate diet! |
| 21:31.31 | zenzelezz | your mother told you not to take candy from strange men, didn't she :( |
| 21:31.34 | Elly | I also require dinner |
| 21:31.55 | Lopeppeppy | She did, and you're surely strange, zenzelezz dear. |
| 21:32.25 | zenzelezz | y u hurt me |
| 21:32.41 | Elly | your choice of words wounds me |
| 21:32.44 | zenzelezz | I've been running around in an [Elegant Dress] all night, I don't feel very manly |
| 21:32.47 | Elly | choice of nonwords, I guess |
| 21:32.48 | zenzelezz | but very stange |
| 21:32.54 | Shirik | ow |
| 21:33.13 | Shirik | when you see "... 28 more" and "... 32 more" along with about 40 lines in your stack trace, you know you really broke something :( |
| 21:33.14 | zenzelezz | Elly: if you had been hanging out here long enough, you'd know I only use non-words when I'm making jokes |
| 21:33.29 | Elly | zenzelezz: I gathered that, but it still hurts :( |
| 21:33.38 | zenzelezz | y is th4t? |
| 21:34.00 | Elly | I think you know why |
| 21:35.53 | Aelobin | any idea how long halaa takes to be fully captured after clearing out all the guards and standing in the middle? :P |
| 21:39.27 | Shirik | by yourself? |
| 21:39.30 | Aelobin | aye |
| 21:39.34 | Shirik | a long time :P |
| 21:39.40 | Aelobin | xD i noticed that :p |
| 21:39.45 | Aelobin | i just bombed the whole place solo |
| 21:48.53 | Aelobin | meh about an hour to solo the bombing + claiming |
| 21:49.00 | Aelobin | got my talbuk now tho :P |
| 21:51.55 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=wulff&i=1225 |
| 21:53.15 | Shirik | oops |
| 21:54.11 | Shirik | my program just created a 300MB log file of errors :( |
| 21:54.34 | Shirik | note to self: When writing an error handler, make sure the error handler doesn't have bugs :( |
| 21:55.13 | Shirik | I do like how notepad, for some reason, needs nearly 1GB of memory to open a 300MB file |
| 21:55.23 | Shirik | oh nm, vista just updated, it's acutally a 1.2GB file |
| 21:56.54 | Corrodias_2 | oh good |
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| 21:59.56 | Torhal | Apparently they want to make sure, ahead of time, that you can easily quadruple the size of your text files without memory allocation. |
| 21:59.59 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 22:00.20 | Kemayo | Lopeppeppy: BetterQuest. |
| 22:00.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, betterquest. I'll take a look at that one too. Thanks! |
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| 22:14.43 | Tuller | so if I were to unify bagnon and combuctor the result would be ??? |
| 22:14.58 | NightHawkTheSane | baguctor? |
| 22:15.13 | Tuller | combagnon |
| 22:15.54 | Tuller | I need to figure out why people like bagnon still :P |
| 22:16.07 | NightHawkTheSane | the all-in-one aspect, i imagine |
| 22:16.11 | Tuller | though I think its mostly the skinner crowd |
| 22:16.12 | NightHawkTheSane | its also simple |
| 22:16.21 | Dark_Elf | cause it dont have all the fancy sorts combuctor has |
| 22:16.39 | Tuller | combuctor, by default, doesn't add the buttons to the bag frame |
| 22:16.50 | Tuller | I think its mostly that combuctor's still incomplete (no alpha/scaling) |
| 22:17.15 | Tuller | or the non setting for rows |
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| 22:18.14 | NightHawkTheSane | for me, its that i <3 baggins_libfilter for organizing equipment by cg sets. but i |
| 22:18.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but i'm a freak who uses baggins, so |
| 22:19.26 | Tuller | yeah, you don't count :P |
| 22:19.31 | NightHawkTheSane | :( |
| 22:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | i really want to stop using baggins.. |
| 22:20.02 | Tuller | I think the guy who did filter stuff may have written a version for combuctor |
| 22:20.40 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, really? i'll have to look into that |
| 22:25.48 | zenzelezz | I still don't use any bag mods :-o |
| 22:26.13 | Tem | Tuller, make Combuctor support Currency tracking |
| 22:26.20 | Kazie | Anyone having trouble wiht CLearfont 3?? |
| 22:26.29 | Tuller | why do people want that feature so much? :P |
| 22:28.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: presumably because it's normally shown on the bags, so they think it hast to be on their bag mods too |
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| 22:34.41 | mikma | poor tuller, haha |
| 22:34.59 | mikma | thats the reason why i wrote CurrencyTracker |
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| 22:37.15 | zenzelezz | when people say currency tracking, what do they mean - just a "you have X" dispay, or a "you had X, bought Y, now you have Z" type history thing? |
| 22:37.29 | zenzelezz | *display |
| 22:38.14 | Tem | no |
| 22:38.51 | Tem | on the currency frame, you can set up to 2 currencies to "track" |
| 22:39.01 | Stanzilla | not 3? |
| 22:39.06 | mikma | 3 |
| 22:39.10 | Tem | eh |
| 22:39.11 | Tem | 3 |
| 22:39.19 | mikma | thats what you said |
| 22:39.24 | Tem | and the backpack shows how much of each of the tracked currencies you have |
| 22:39.33 | Tem | next to the gold dispay |
| 22:39.37 | zenzelezz | oh, I had forgotten about that |
| 22:39.47 | mikma | aaand.... |
| 22:39.48 | mikma | thats the reason why i wrote CurrencyTracker |
| 22:39.51 | mikma | ;) |
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| 22:40.47 | NightHawkTheSane | for some reason, currencytracker's font looks odd :P |
| 22:41.09 | mikma | maybe |
| 22:41.44 | mikma | its the default font tooltips use |
| 22:42.39 | Tem | I don't wanna run a LDB display addon |
| 22:42.45 | Tem | so your thingy does me no good |
| 22:43.13 | mikma | then another option is to use defazult bags |
| 22:43.24 | mikma | until tuller adds it in combuctor |
| 22:43.55 | Tuller | I just need to figure out _why_ people want it, since there's a handy currency tab on the character frame |
| 22:44.15 | mikma | tuller: disable combuctor and find out |
| 22:44.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller: same reason people want durability displays, free bag slot displays, etc. |
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| 22:45.53 | Tuller | i'm going to go with it being a performance enhancer of some sort |
| 22:45.56 | zenzelezz | Tuller: that's exactly the reason I forgot about currency tracking in the first place |
| 22:46.43 | Arrowmaster | my feet hurt |
| 22:47.31 | zenzelezz | get to 30 and get a mount then |
| 22:48.08 | Arrowmaster | do you know how depressing that would be to wait until 30 |
| 22:48.09 | mikma | arrowmaster: or just mount zenzelezz |
| 22:48.19 | mikma | ride him like a legendary mount |
| 22:48.31 | zenzelezz | with all this plate, that'd be more unpleasant than riding a gnome mount |
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| 22:49.13 | Tem | Tuller, I don't have a keybind to open the currency frame |
| 22:49.19 | Tem | I DO have a keybind to open combuctor |
| 22:49.49 | Tuller | c? :p |
| 22:50.12 | mikma | thats characterframe! |
| 22:50.19 | Tem | that's a button and then a click |
| 22:50.22 | Tem | just hitting b is easier |
| 22:50.22 | mikma | takes 1 more mouseclick to open curriencies |
| 22:50.37 | Tuller | shift c :P |
| 22:50.40 | zenzelezz | you could always go to the key binding window and add one for the currency frame |
| 22:51.05 | Tuller | I could be super lazy and add a "click to show currency" jamber |
| 22:51.27 | Tem | that wouldn't help me at all |
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| 22:52.48 | mikma | tuller: dc'mon, it takes you 5mins to code it =) |
| 22:52.55 | mikma | c'mon* |
| 22:53.20 | Tuller | but I have to rewrite combuctor first, its the law :P |
| 22:53.41 | mikma | no no |
| 22:53.56 | mikma | do it like ckk does, add more features until its bloated to death |
| 22:54.01 | mikma | then abandon it |
| 22:54.14 | Tuller | did that, bongos3 |
| 22:54.17 | ckknight | then wait for someone to pick it up |
| 22:54.19 | ckknight | and let them bloat it |
| 22:54.25 | Tuller | vbagnon |
| 22:55.53 | Dark_Elf | rewrite combuctor and force the bagnon link to combuctor, case solved |
| 23:01.45 | alestane | Anyone have a notion of what a typical level 45-50 hunter should have for armor score? |
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| 23:09.36 | p3lim | how do I enable the taint log? |
| 23:09.44 | Shefki | aren't Hunters only 45-50 for 30 minutes? |
| 23:09.55 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
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| 23:11.20 | Shefki | p3lim: /console taintlog 1 |
| 23:11.28 | p3lim | Shefki: thanks |
| 23:11.37 | Shefki | I think that's right... |
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| 23:12.52 | p3lim | capital L |
| 23:17.56 | kd3 | gah. stop returning 2, UnitSex('target')... wtb a 3 |
| 23:18.42 | Industrial | < Dark_Elf> rewrite combuctor and force the bagnon link to combuctor, case solved |
| 23:18.49 | Industrial | erm no, I prefer bagnon. |
| 23:20.41 | Lopeppeppy | So, my cat tried to kill me when I got out of the shower. She likes to lurk and pounce and then run away laughing... she pounced at the top of the stairs, I fell down on my bottom. She nearly died of lol'ing and ran away. |
| 23:20.54 | alestane | Do cats in fact lol? |
| 23:21.09 | kd3 | ! |
| 23:21.19 | kd3 | "Texas closing school indefinitely 3rd student w/swine flu" |
| 23:21.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, ouch, kd3. |
| 23:21.27 | kd3 | bird flu's big brother? |
| 23:21.32 | Lopeppeppy | I'm waiting for more closings here in NY. |
| 23:21.54 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, if you have never seen a cat lol, it's hard to describe, but they can be highly amused and laugh at you. |
| 23:22.23 | alestane | Is dinner time, then going out for ice cream. Later all! |
| 23:22.23 | ajmitch | kd3: there are even students in NZ believed to be affected, who'd just returned from a trip to mexico |
| 23:22.53 | Lopeppeppy | Same reason for the students here in NY -- class trip to Mexico. |
| 23:25.05 | Shirik | goes to Mexico with Lopeppeppy |
| 23:25.25 | Lopeppeppy | Ah hell no. |
| 23:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.goodgoth.com/flufashion.jpg |
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| 23:26.23 | Lopeppeppy | I already had the stomach flu this year, don't need no silly bacon fever on top of that, kthx. |
| 23:26.32 | Lopeppeppy | If you want to go on vacation, how about Niagra Falls instead? |
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| 23:30.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ... niagara falls isn't that impressive. |
| 23:30.54 | Lopeppeppy | No, but I adore water, and the Maid of the Mist is awesome for me. |
| 23:31.04 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough. |
| 23:31.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Living near it as long as I did, I'm probably a bit jaded, anyway |
| 23:38.48 | foxlit | tLeft:SetPoint("RIGHT", label, "LEFT", -15, 0); tLeft:SetPoint("LEFT", 15, 0); |
| 23:39.02 | foxlit | point being, I want to draw a line from the left edge of the frame to within a few pixels of a fontstring |
| 23:39.39 | foxlit | Unfortunately, anchoring can't seem to help but misunderstand my intention and attempt to apply vertical positioning based on the parent frame rather than the font string alone. |
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