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| 00:13.02 | Arrowmaster | so i think i have a proof of concept done for this new idea, just need to actually test it |
| 00:15.19 | mikma | what? |
| 00:16.09 | Arrowmaster | customized keybindings for individual vehicles and possessed units |
| 00:18.46 | Cloudwolf | that would be a big database |
| 00:18.48 | Cloudwolf | wouldn't it? |
| 00:19.00 | Cloudwolf | or are you doing it by classification? |
| 00:21.28 | Arrowmaster | it probably will be a big database |
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| 00:30.57 | kluge | in leveling my protadin ive come across some caster plate |
| 00:31.13 | kluge | im having trouble comparing the stats is spell power of any value at all for example |
| 00:31.23 | kluge | what about armor vs strength |
| 00:31.26 | kluge | god im so confused. |
| 00:31.42 | Kraftman | :( |
| 00:32.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Gear like a warrior tank. |
| 00:32.41 | kluge | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39085 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35574 |
| 00:33.15 | Legorol | kluge: the reason why armor vs. strength is hard to decide is because they serve different purpose, so they are not competitors of each other |
| 00:34.00 | Legorol | kluge: your protadin is properly specced i assume? in which case spell power, intellect and mp5 are not relevant to you |
| 00:34.09 | kluge | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38127 vs 2.60sp 27sta 17str |
| 00:34.21 | Legorol | your spells' effectiveness now scales with your AP (and therefore your strength) too |
| 00:34.32 | kluge | ok |
| 00:34.51 | Legorol | that mace is horrible for tanking |
| 00:34.56 | Legorol | it has no defensive stats |
| 00:34.59 | kluge | ok |
| 00:35.02 | Legorol | and it's a slow-ish weapon |
| 00:35.05 | Legorol | go with the cobalt chest |
| 00:35.15 | kluge | that was theone i was less sure about |
| 00:35.33 | Legorol | as NightHawkTheSane said, gear like a warrior tank: strength for threat generation, stamina and defense for survival |
| 00:35.37 | ZorbaGama | yeah, from what I understand prot warriors and prot paladins gear in pretty much the same manner |
| 00:35.38 | kluge | the weapon tho that mp5 and sp i thought would make a difference but it doesnt seem to much. when i run my paladin properly i dont have mana issues. |
| 00:35.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaGama: s/pretty much/exactly the same/ |
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| 00:36.01 | ZorbaGama | which means, ignore everything magic-y, you just don't need to deal with it |
| 00:36.05 | Legorol | a prot paladin has a very small mana pool and gets its mana from being healed |
| 00:36.06 | kluge | that is what ive been told my only concern really was just if the caster item has soo much better item level than the 'melee' gear i can get.. |
| 00:36.16 | Legorol | its mana pool works more like warrior's rage, so mp5 is not useful |
| 00:36.19 | kluge | ok |
| 00:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | caster gear doesn't have defensive stats. |
| 00:36.22 | ZorbaGama | nighthawk, don't paladins have some kind of block-cap that warriors don't? I seem to remember differences focusing around paladin blocking |
| 00:36.35 | kluge | oh that is another question is there a dodge cap? |
| 00:36.44 | Legorol | ZorbaGama: the difference is only in mechanics of the block |
| 00:36.47 | ZorbaGama | kluge, there's diminishing returns |
| 00:36.52 | Legorol | kluge: yes there is, but you won't reach it |
| 00:36.55 | kluge | ok |
| 00:37.13 | ZorbaGama | I don't think we have to worry about an actual cap until T10, though :) |
| 00:37.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaGama: in theory, yes. But you don't hit it before end-game gear, and if you have gear enough to have that problem, you're either smart enough to understand the subtle differences, or too dumb to be worth helping |
| 00:37.18 | Legorol | there is a cap on the amount of % dodge chance you can have, and you reach it when you have infinite dodge rating :) |
| 00:37.46 | kluge | lol |
| 00:38.00 | ZorbaGama | y'know, wow terminology is gonna get really dumb when we're all talking about how awesome tier 18 is going to be over our old crappy tier 17 gear. |
| 00:38.15 | NightHawkTheSane | how is that dumber than tier 4 vs tier 5? |
| 00:38.20 | ZorbaGama | I mean it's got +317 strength, that's a lot better than my current +301 |
| 00:38.29 | kluge | i can get 37.79 dodge if i pop moreoes lucky pocket watch at the same time as charm of alacrity |
| 00:38.34 | ZorbaGama | nighthawk, I'd say it's approximately four times dumber |
| 00:38.41 | NightHawkTheSane | they're just numbers. |
| 00:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | you could refer to them by their canonical name, if you prefer? |
| 00:39.37 | Legorol | kluge: %, or rating? |
| 00:39.42 | kluge | % |
| 00:40.35 | Legorol | that's pretty nice |
| 00:40.44 | Legorol | that's what trinkets are for, pop them when the mob hits hard :o) |
| 00:41.02 | Cloudwolf | or in my rogues case |
| 00:41.06 | Cloudwolf | for my 3 button combo |
| 00:41.17 | Cloudwolf | bonus dmg bladeflurry and killing spree |
| 00:41.23 | kluge | http://thottbot.com/i37747 vs http://thottbot.com/i31200 .. |
| 00:42.09 | ZorbaGama | kluge, if you're planning to tank, the one that has tanking stats :P |
| 00:42.21 | kluge | ok i wont ask again i get it |
| 00:42.42 | kluge | ty |
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| 00:42.54 | ZorbaGama | seriously, intellect, mp5, spellpower: not useful to prot paladin, at all. |
| 00:43.06 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 00:43.13 | ZorbaGama | (okay maybe not zero, but very, very low) |
| 00:43.23 | alestane | If you don't have access to a weapon with the right kind of stats, maybe. |
| 00:43.49 | kluge | those two shields are the best i have access to until the saronite one. |
| 00:44.03 | Shirik | spirit: Very useful to prot paladin |
| 00:44.12 | kluge | ... |
| 00:44.18 | kluge | now ur messing with me |
| 00:44.35 | kluge | spirits for healers and it got nerfed and protadin has like no spirit mechanic |
| 00:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | spirit isn't just for healers |
| 00:46.12 | kluge | ok |
| 00:46.21 | Dagmar | It's also good for trading alts |
| 00:48.24 | p3lim | hm math problem here |
| 00:48.42 | p3lim | fading of objects, two variables |
| 00:50.40 | p3lim | fuck it, ill deal with it tomorrow |
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| 00:51.42 | Kraftman | has anyone here used lua lanes? |
| 00:55.10 | Zyndrome | buh |
| 00:55.27 | Kraftman | Zyndrome: shoo! |
| 00:55.31 | Zyndrome | specially crafted for my guild : http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/yogg-eyetest.jpg |
| 00:55.34 | Zyndrome | and you, shoo! |
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| 00:56.04 | Kraftman | >< |
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| 00:56.44 | Shirik | Zyndrome: rofl |
| 01:00.28 | ZorbaGama | zyndrome, run towards the green cloud? did you say I should stand in the green cloud? alright I'm in the cloud, why am I dying |
| 01:00.53 | Zyndrome | you're not dying *gets zerged by adds* you're spawning more adds |
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| 01:03.20 | ZorbaGama | (I admit I have not seen yogg-saron - it fact it would not surprise me if nobody on my server has :P) |
| 01:05.07 | Dagmar | Zyndrome: That's an awesome teaching aid |
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| 01:07.09 | malreth | HEY DUDES!!! |
| 01:07.28 | Shirik | ~lart Maldivia |
| 01:07.28 | purl | beats Maldivia into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 01:07.31 | Shirik | ~lart malreth |
| 01:07.31 | purl | chops malreth in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 01:07.37 | malreth | ~failrik |
| 01:07.38 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:08.00 | malreth | So, like... My Wowmatrix program isn't working |
| 01:08.09 | malreth | is there an update? |
| 01:08.11 | Shirik | ~lart malreth |
| 01:08.11 | purl | decapitates malreth conan the destroyer style |
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| 01:10.49 | batrick | ~lart Shirik |
| 01:10.49 | purl | puts Shirik into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of Shirik's hair of |
| 01:11.01 | DWSR | are cvars case sensitive? |
| 01:11.04 | batrick | owned |
| 01:11.08 | Cloudwolf | ~cookie |
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| 01:11.55 | Taroven | Hm. |
| 01:12.18 | Taroven | Is there any vehicle except the Wyrmrest Skytalon (Malygos/Aces High daily) that uses combo points> |
| 01:12.20 | Taroven | ? |
| 01:12.28 | DWSR | oc? |
| 01:13.25 | Taroven | Don't think the Oculus drakes use cp... |
| 01:14.24 | foxlit | They stack buffs |
| 01:14.43 | foxlit | I can't think of anything other than the red drakes offhand. |
| 01:14.55 | Taroven | Alright. |
| 01:15.02 | DWSR | are cvars case sensitive? |
| 01:15.07 | Taroven | Makes my life a little easier |
| 01:15.25 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: i think |
| 01:15.30 | foxlit | I don't. |
| 01:15.47 | Arrowmaster | when using GetCVar/SetCVar etc |
| 01:15.55 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: /console? |
| 01:15.58 | Arrowmaster | they arent when using /console to set them |
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| 01:19.16 | ScratchMonkey | is there any capability to switch which set of glyphs go with which talent spec? |
| 01:19.22 | DWSR | no |
| 01:19.23 | ScratchMonkey | short of a respec |
| 01:19.46 | ScratchMonkey | alas, still had my healer glyphs when i loaded my spec for shadow, then bought the 2nd spec |
| 01:20.36 | Cloudwolf | does paying for 2 respect refund the talent points on both of your specs? |
| 01:20.53 | Cloudwolf | or only the current one? |
| 01:22.24 | DWSR | current 1 only. |
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| 01:25.47 | Ackis | HAI GUYS |
| 01:25.52 | Ackis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8512#comments LULZ |
| 01:26.47 | Arrowmaster | wheres the reply? |
| 01:26.50 | nicoli_s | he asked so nicely |
| 01:27.06 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: just got home!!!! :D |
| 01:27.09 | Ackis | replying now |
| 01:27.26 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: $100 exactly raised? how many donations? |
| 01:27.40 | nicoli_s | damn i hate games with difficult file protections |
| 01:27.54 | nicoli_s | curses aion |
| 01:28.00 | mikma | hey.. |
| 01:28.04 | mikma | that needs southpark clicp |
| 01:28.05 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: 9 total |
| 01:28.27 | Arrowmaster | ah, was wondering if you were one of the recipients of the $100 donations |
| 01:28.42 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: from who? |
| 01:29.07 | Arrowmaster | no clue exactly |
| 01:33.36 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I responded!!! :D |
| 01:34.18 | Torhal | Ackis: You didn't say "kthxbai" |
| 01:34.23 | Ackis | o |
| 01:34.26 | Ackis | :P |
| 01:34.32 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:34.55 | mikma | ackis: lol lol lol, "Wowmtraix" |
| 01:35.16 | Ackis | meh w/e :P |
| 01:35.54 | mikma | ackis: mr.garrison would have commented: "NO, YOU GO TO HELL! YOU GO TO HELL AND DIE!" |
| 01:36.06 | Cloudwolf | lua> Sin(pi/2) |
| 01:36.06 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'pi' (a nil value) |
| 01:36.09 | aesir | Ackis, WoWmatrix hosted modified addon code? Is that why :ScanTrainerData() isn't there? |
| 01:36.10 | Arrowmaster | if he replys tell me i want to see it |
| 01:36.12 | Cloudwolf | grrr |
| 01:36.19 | Cloudwolf | lua> Sin(3.1415/2) |
| 01:36.20 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'Sin' (a nil value) |
| 01:36.32 | Cloudwolf | lua> math.sin(3.1415/2) |
| 01:36.32 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 0.99999999892691 |
| 01:36.32 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: will do |
| 01:36.49 | Arrowmaster | theres a 'addon authors please host your addons on wowmatrix' thread on the ui forums |
| 01:37.05 | mikma | ackis: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/5003/askmrh1.wav |
| 01:37.26 | malreth | wowmatrix... <trombone> wah waaaaaaaaaah~~~ |
| 01:37.38 | Cloudwolf | lua>13^.5*13^.5 |
| 01:37.39 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 13 |
| 01:37.41 | Arrowmaster | i want another dump of the wowmatrix code to see what they are hosting now |
| 01:37.51 | mikma | ~wowmatrix |
| 01:37.52 | purl | ACTION stabs wowmatrix with an icicle made from the frozen tears of lazy users |
| 01:38.12 | mikma | purl: wowmatrix is also dodge this! |
| 01:38.13 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 01:38.32 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: let me know if they ever host something of mine/had my grubby fat fingers in please |
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| 01:39.15 | aesir | Kaelten: CC install of OneView3 appears to replace the contents of OneBag3. Just saying... |
| 01:39.33 | aesir | *oneRing3 |
| 01:46.24 | nicoli_s | aesir, i'll make sure he hears about that tom if he doesnt see it here |
| 01:46.40 | nicoli_s | and woo i finally made some progress with ths work, hoorah |
| 01:47.06 | Ackis | nicoli_s: pm me your e-mail pls |
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| 01:48.01 | nicoli_s | gonna send me my ticket to retrieve that 10 million you promised me? you said id get it 6 weeks after i gave you my money |
| 01:48.06 | aesir | Not sure where to post that report. But yes, I'm fairly certain his update to OneRing is masquerading as OneBag. Talk about code optimization. He's so AWESOME! |
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| 01:51.50 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHUJyq0lUsY !!! |
| 01:51.58 | Kaelten | aesir: know defect with depedency resolution in the client |
| 01:52.02 | Kaelten | it's on our list of things tof ix |
| 01:52.37 | Kaelten | onering is dependent on onebag |
| 01:53.25 | aesir | As long as you know. I only just installed and can revert. I have to say I'm looking forward to OneView3, and I think I may have my new bag for the Spring season. |
| 01:54.49 | malreth | mikma: that video has an acceptable amount of posterizing effects... but it suffers from a lack of 'splosions |
| 01:54.52 | malreth | i'm sorry... |
| 01:55.05 | mikma | assplosions for everyone |
| 01:56.22 | malreth | i miss old school house rave |
| 01:56.26 | malreth | oh wait |
| 01:56.28 | malreth | no |
| 01:56.32 | malreth | no i don't |
| 01:56.44 | mikma | malreth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p8qxa9EqUQ |
| 01:57.18 | malreth | mikma: i'll never listen |
| 01:57.26 | malreth | hey! |
| 01:57.30 | malreth | It's ice cream time |
| 02:00.16 | mikma | i was gonna link you vanilla ice - ice ice baby |
| 02:00.30 | mikma | but "it's not available for your country" |
| 02:12.53 | Cloudwolf | ~cookie |
| 02:13.05 | Cloudwolf | lol? |
| 02:13.11 | Cloudwolf | uh |
| 02:13.18 | Cloudwolf | ~cookie mudkips |
| 02:13.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo cookie |
| 02:13.26 | purl | cookie -- last modified at Sun Jan 7 12:52:39 2007 by amro!n=amro@82.101.184.154; it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 02:13.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ~literal cookie |
| 02:13.43 | purl | "cookie" is "<action>gives <who> a cookie" |
| 02:14.09 | Cloudwolf | ~cookie jesus |
| 02:14.17 | malreth | xkcd has a book deal |
| 02:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I think purl is broke |
| 02:14.30 | Cloudwolf | orly? |
| 02:14.32 | Cloudwolf | ~cookie orly |
| 02:14.36 | Cloudwolf | give me yarly |
| 02:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ~cookie |
| 02:15.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ~cookie |
| 02:15.29 | ScytheBlade1 | yup, that's... weird |
| 02:15.46 | Cloudwolf | it just grabs random stuff lol |
| 02:16.22 | malreth | 150-200 of the online published strips... sale price of $19. to be sold through xkcd.com |
| 02:17.31 | malreth | the book will be released under a CC license |
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| 02:20.38 | Cloudwolf | what is xkcd |
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| 02:20.43 | Cloudwolf | ~xkcd |
| 02:20.44 | purl | xkcd is, like, http://xkcd.com/ or only the best webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math and language. |
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| 02:21.45 | Cloudwolf | new car is win |
| 02:25.27 | Cloudwolf | ok i like this comic |
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| 02:30.44 | Codex| | anyone have a mod that tracks instance lockout timers? |
| 02:32.26 | NightHawkTheSane | your raid pane? |
| 02:39.00 | Codex| | no, for nonheroics |
| 02:39.04 | Codex| | i.e. 5instances an hour |
| 02:41.22 | Wobin | ~interfacexml |
| 02:41.31 | mikma | ~framexml |
| 02:41.32 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 02:41.34 | Wobin | ta |
| 02:41.48 | mikma | np |
| 02:42.19 | Wobin | Firefox can't find the server at www.worldofwarcraft.com. =( |
| 02:42.24 | Wobin | pokes Firefox |
| 02:43.47 | Wobin | hm, looks like I have a general internet failure |
| 02:44.31 | Wobin | hehe |
| 02:44.32 | Wobin | http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10222626-2.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5 |
| 02:44.36 | Wobin | oprah get pwned |
| 02:46.19 | Corrodias | oh my gawd |
| 02:48.42 | malreth | talking heads on Twitter are all saying this is the end of Twitter now |
| 02:48.51 | malreth | i just don't see it |
| 02:49.01 | malreth | it's not like when AOL let people loose on USENET |
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| 02:49.49 | mikma | wobin: can you explain whats on the page |
| 02:50.01 | mikma | my NIT gets pwned by the address |
| 02:50.02 | tekkub | oprah and shaq twiting |
| 02:50.15 | Wobin | mikma: lrn2twitter |
| 02:50.25 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:50.28 | Wobin | lemme screencap then |
| 02:50.32 | tekkub | stalkr >> twitter |
| 02:50.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Does anyone see the irony of shaq lambasting oprah for using caps while talking like a retarded monkey? |
| 02:50.39 | mikma | wobin: l2wait4upgradedNIT |
| 02:50.48 | tekkub | NightHawkTheSane: fail |
| 02:51.08 | tekkub | go read his updates, they're all in "lolcat" |
| 02:51.19 | Arrowmaster | so my addon works, it correctly detected that i got onto a Sunreaver Hawkstrider (but not by name) and changed keybindings |
| 02:51.19 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: hey! SHAQ is just keepin it real, yo |
| 02:51.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i know. >< |
| 02:51.33 | Wobin | http://www.flickr.com/photos/30938059@N08/3457414437/ <-- mikma |
| 02:51.43 | mikma | arrowmaster: and what happens in combat? |
| 02:51.46 | malreth | at least he doesn't pay an intern to tweet for him like other celebs do |
| 02:51.53 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: fiery death |
| 02:51.54 | Arrowmaster | it should work fine in combat |
| 02:52.05 | NightHawkTheSane | you can change bindings in combat? |
| 02:52.08 | Arrowmaster | since im doing it with secure handlers |
| 02:52.11 | Wobin | malreth: hehe Hugh Jackman fell into that problem =P |
| 02:52.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 02:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting. that could actually be useful for some of my characters, Arrowmaster |
| 02:52.49 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue about what happens when you switch seats between the driver and the turret on a seige engine though |
| 02:52.57 | Wobin | His first twitter was "Having lunch on the harbor [sic] across from the Opera Center. Loving life!" |
| 02:53.05 | mikma | wobin: sorry, still dont get it =( |
| 02:53.16 | Arrowmaster | im using a state driver thats checking [bonusbar:5] but i dont know if that will update when switching seats like that |
| 02:53.29 | Wobin | So utterly clearly -not- 1) an Australian doing the twittering, and 2) not someone who's ever -lived- in Australia doing the twittering |
| 02:53.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: check with someone on a Kirin'Tor mammoth? |
| 02:53.49 | mikma | whats twitter and why is oprah typing in there, with caps |
| 02:53.55 | Wobin | see? |
| 02:53.55 | malreth | mikma: Oprah made news by dedicating a show to Twitter last week. She also got an account. Her first post was in all caps. |
| 02:53.56 | Wobin | I -told- you |
| 02:53.59 | Wobin | lrn2twitter! |
| 02:54.11 | Wobin | but nooo you just make excuses =P |
| 02:54.19 | mikma | tittytwister |
| 02:54.21 | malreth | now, I know you're not familiar with the Internets and blagowebs |
| 02:54.30 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: thats not the same afaik, [bonusbar:5] wont trigger on that |
| 02:54.33 | malreth | but on the Internet, using all caps is a novice mistake |
| 02:54.41 | tekkub | see I thought that the twitter oprah was just another idiot pretending and acting like an idiot |
| 02:54.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: ahh, doh. |
| 02:54.45 | malreth | it clogs up the tubes |
| 02:54.45 | tekkub | like shaq :P |
| 02:54.51 | Shadowed | whats worse |
| 02:54.59 | Shadowed | Shaq using "ur" and "r" |
| 02:55.02 | Shadowed | or Oprah using caps |
| 02:55.07 | mikma | tekkub: exactly my thoughts |
| 02:55.08 | Wobin | hehe, it's a tie, imo |
| 02:55.14 | tekkub | Oprah |
| 02:55.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed: read up, i already mentioned that |
| 02:55.17 | Shadowed | and why couldn't she use caps for ST too |
| 02:55.22 | tekkub | she's supposed to be all smart like |
| 02:55.28 | malreth | THE_REAL_SHAQ actually is Shaquille O'Neal |
| 02:55.31 | tekkub | shaq's just a dumb athlete |
| 02:55.38 | tekkub | or IS HE? |
| 02:55.48 | mikma | Is he a she? |
| 02:55.49 | malreth | no... he's just old |
| 02:56.01 | Shadowed | athletes never get old |
| 02:56.18 | Wobin | They just come second? |
| 02:56.21 | malreth | my dad types that way... takes me a day to read his e-mails |
| 02:56.25 | NightHawkTheSane | no, they just stop going out in public |
| 02:56.34 | Shadowed | or die young |
| 02:56.39 | Wobin | malreth: I'd stab my father if he started typing that way |
| 02:57.18 | mikma | i'd stab myself if my dad started to type to me |
| 02:57.19 | malreth | my dad would probably gut me if i tried |
| 02:57.30 | malreth | then laugh about it |
| 02:57.39 | Wobin | Just return the email with a note "Sorry, I can't read that. Type it properly" |
| 02:57.48 | mikma | after all, he's been dead for 20 years soon |
| 02:58.14 | Wobin | "Hi Mik, How are you? Weather is fine here..." |
| 02:59.05 | mikma | exactly |
| 02:59.07 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.48 | mikma | why not Doton while at it |
| 03:03.18 | Wobin | hehe |
| 03:03.23 | Wobin | blizzard code comments =P |
| 03:03.31 | Wobin | -- kind of janky |
| 03:04.00 | Shirik | Ackis: ping |
| 03:04.57 | mikma | theres quite alot of cool comments in there =D |
| 03:05.44 | mikma | -- REMOVE ME!!! |
| 03:05.44 | mikma | SlashCmdList["TOKENUI"] = function() ToggleCharacter("TokenFrame"); end; |
| 03:07.34 | mikma | -- some languages have ridonculously long am/pm strings (i'm looking at you French) so we may have to |
| 03:07.37 | mikma | -- readjust the ampm dropdown width plus do some reanchoring if the text is too wide |
| 03:08.43 | mikma | -- do a bunch of crazy stuff to get the player's attention |
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| 03:11.07 | Tewan | gawd |
| 03:11.17 | Tewan | just bought roughly 150g of borean leather |
| 03:13.00 | Tewan | 27 stacks of Borean Leather |
| 03:13.06 | Tewan | lul |
| 03:14.05 | Tewan | going to get twice the gold back |
| 03:14.07 | Tewan | plus some |
| 03:14.08 | Tewan | awesome |
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| 03:17.00 | Wobin | ~blpviewer |
| 03:17.10 | Wobin | eh, was worth a try |
| 03:19.30 | Shirik | We figured out what a good hard mode for Kologarn would be |
| 03:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | !g blpviewer |
| 03:19.33 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: BLP Viewer <http://blp.dynalias.net/Public/BLP_Viewer/> |
| 03:19.40 | Shirik | "Kill Kologarn without anyone in your raid taking damage" |
| 03:19.55 | Arrowmaster | ok what do you think is better, doing select(i, string.split(...)) inside a for loop or doing { string.split(...) } then looping over the table? |
| 03:21.01 | Wobin | probably the latter |
| 03:21.09 | Wobin | since you won't be resplitting the string each loop |
| 03:21.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats what im thinking |
| 03:22.03 | Arrowmaster | going to recode this to use tables instead of splitting in a loop and also make use of a table.concat |
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| 03:26.54 | Trela | Any one know if the Taste Like Chicken/Happy Hour achievements changed? Seems what ever I eat or drink does not count. |
| 03:29.56 | Trela | Good evening Cairenn~ |
| 03:30.06 | Cairenn | hi Trela |
| 03:30.22 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, teh correct solution is to pass the results of string.split(...) |
| 03:30.28 | Xinhuan | into a vararg function |
| 03:30.33 | Arrowmaster | i cant |
| 03:30.59 | Xinhuan | have the calling function pass it in then |
| 03:31.02 | Xinhuan | so you can loop over ... |
| 03:31.15 | Arrowmaster | doing this inside restricted env |
| 03:33.47 | Arrowmaster | ok wait i think i can do this |
| 03:33.54 | Arrowmaster | just i still think this is ugly |
| 03:34.47 | Xinhuan | i thought you can't make your own tables too |
| 03:34.51 | Xinhuan | in restricted env |
| 03:35.44 | Trela | Yes, those two achievements were fixed. Only Azeroth foods count now. |
| 03:38.01 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: theres a newtable(...) func that can make arrays for you out of ... |
| 03:38.47 | Xinhuan | a new table every call seems worse than splitting every loop to me, unless its called infrequently |
| 03:38.57 | Xinhuan | GC doesn't happen in combat |
| 03:39.33 | Arrowmaster | its in a state header for [bonusbar:5] |
| 03:40.52 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
| 03:41.10 | Arrowmaster | they fucked with table.concat and it only takes one arg |
| 03:42.03 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: is there a reason table.concat in the restricted env cant have arg2? |
| 03:52.54 | mikma | yes, they want to tease you |
| 04:01.28 | Cloudwolf | ~seen cloudwolf |
| 04:01.32 | purl | cloudwolf is currently on #wowuidev (10h 32m 21s). Has said a total of 135 messages. Is idling for 4s, last said: '~seen cloudwolf'. |
| 04:09.25 | Tem | ~laziness |
| 04:09.26 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:09.28 | Tem | ~impatience |
| 04:09.29 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:09.30 | Tem | ~hubris |
| 04:09.31 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:09.33 | Tem | ~fear of complexity |
| 04:09.34 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 04:09.45 | Shirik | ~Tem |
| 04:09.46 | purl | [tem] I wonder what Tem is breaking now... |
| 04:09.54 | Shirik | breaking the silence! |
| 04:11.20 | Kaelten | ~shirik |
| 04:11.21 | purl | well, shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 04:12.05 | Shirik | ~emulate Shirik |
| 04:12.06 | purl | I'll whine about anything |
| 04:12.10 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:12.50 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 04:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo emulate Shirik |
| 04:12.53 | purl | emulate shirik -- created by ScytheBlade1 <n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1> at Tue Dec 23 19:25:34 2008 (117 days); last modified at Tue Dec 23 19:26:03 2008 by nevcairiel!i=nevcairi@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel; it has been requested 7 times, last by Shirik, 47s ago. |
| 04:13.11 | Kaelten | ~emulate tem |
| 04:13.12 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]! |
| 04:13.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo emulate Tem |
| 04:13.17 | purl | emulate tem -- last modified at Wed Nov 16 21:02:15 2005 by Guillotine!n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57; it has been requested 3 times, last by Kaelten, 5s ago. |
| 04:13.26 | Kaelten | ~emulate Seerah |
| 04:13.44 | Shirik | you can't actually do the emulate factoids anymore ( |
| 04:13.45 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:13.53 | Seerah | ~seerah |
| 04:13.54 | purl | it has been said that seerah is sexy zebra |
| 04:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo emulate Seerah |
| 04:13.54 | purl | ScytheBlade1: there's no such factoid as emulate seerah |
| 04:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:14.05 | Shirik | purl, emulate seerah is test |
| 04:14.06 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 04:14.08 | Shirik | ?! |
| 04:14.10 | Shirik | Apparently you can |
| 04:14.17 | Kaelten | ~emulate Seerah |
| 04:14.18 | purl | [emulate seerah] test |
| 04:14.22 | Seerah | ? |
| 04:14.33 | Shirik | purl, no, emulate seerah is <reply> Night! *instant /quit* |
| 04:14.34 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 04:14.35 | batrick | ~emulate batrick |
| 04:14.37 | Seerah | did it do the [emulate ...] before? |
| 04:14.43 | batrick | :( |
| 04:14.46 | Kaelten | ~emulate Seerah |
| 04:14.47 | purl | Night! *instant /quit* |
| 04:14.51 | Seerah | I don't do that anymore since you started "fake" saying goodnight back :P |
| 04:14.52 | Gnarfoz | ~remulate |
| 04:14.53 | purl | ACTION says "hey, what's that on your face?" and shovels dirt on your face. |
| 04:14.53 | batrick | thought i had one |
| 04:14.56 | Shirik | purl, emulate batrick is <reply> 1. e5 |
| 04:14.56 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 04:15.09 | batrick | e5 isn't possible first move for white shirik |
| 04:15.12 | batrick | fail! |
| 04:15.12 | Shirik | er |
| 04:15.16 | Shirik | I didn't check :( |
| 04:15.26 | Shirik | purl, no, emulate batrick is <reply> 1. e4 |
| 04:15.27 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 04:15.50 | batrick | ~batrick |
| 04:15.52 | purl | Batrick is evil. |
| 04:15.57 | batrick | ^_^ |
| 04:16.02 | batrick | that's what i was looking for |
| 04:16.04 | Thunder_Child | hey, when do i get my game? |
| 04:16.10 | Shirik | NEVAR |
| 04:16.23 | Shirik | Seerah: You forced my hand! |
| 04:16.35 | batrick | soon (tm) Thunder_Child |
| 04:16.45 | batrick | it's time to get coffee |
| 04:16.49 | Seerah | :( you have your machine say goodnight to me :( :( |
| 04:17.22 | Shirik | Because it's impossible to say good night to you |
| 04:17.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Has anyone else been not getting a cast bar for steady shot? :( |
| 04:17.56 | Shirik | (01:21:55) (+Seerah) night all |
| 04:17.56 | Shirik | (01:21:55) (Shiibot) Night! *hugs* |
| 04:17.56 | Shirik | (01:22:05)  -⺠Part: +Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-66-7-174.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:17.56 | Shirik | (01:22:05) (@Dolby) night Seerah |
| 04:17.56 | Shirik | (01:22:08) (@Dolby) damn |
| 04:17.59 | Shirik | Just last night, Seerah! |
| 04:18.19 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: An omission on my part, sorry. |
| 04:18.21 | Seerah | that was 10 seconds! |
| 04:18.23 | Seerah | that's the rule |
| 04:18.27 | Seerah | dolby was slow |
| 04:18.30 | Shirik | Do you time it... |
| 04:18.34 | Shirik | that was EXACTLY 10 seconds |
| 04:18.36 | Seerah | no |
| 04:18.49 | Seerah | but it was 10 seconds, so you're not allowed to complain :) |
| 04:18.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah's totally got a stopwatch. :P |
| 04:19.01 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: ok, table.concat() takes upto 4 args so i guess you just need to add ... to the function wrapper? |
| 04:19.12 | Seerah | ~shirik |
| 04:19.13 | purl | from memory, shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 04:19.21 | Seerah | ~emulate shirik |
| 04:19.22 | purl | I'll whine about anything |
| 04:19.27 | Seerah | ^^^^ |
| 04:19.33 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I'll have to think it through, but I'll add it to my 3.2 wishlist |
| 04:19.44 | Iriel | Sorry for the inconvenience |
| 04:20.06 | Thunder_Child | ~kick batrick |
| 04:20.07 | purl | ACTION kicks batrick |
| 04:20.33 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: im guessing this could be cleaned up a lot right? http://www.wowace.com/projects/bindvehicle/ |
| 04:20.55 | Arrowmaster | first try at state headers and restricted env |
| 04:21.02 | Seerah | huggles Shirik |
| 04:21.23 | Shirik | huggles Seerah |
| 04:22.29 | Shirik | ow |
| 04:22.33 | Shirik | Just checked for updates |
| 04:22.48 | Shirik | 250MB of updates to install :( |
| 04:22.49 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I dunno, it's not THAT ugly looking |
| 04:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: and compile |
| 04:23.04 | Shirik | lol, and some of it it doesn't even know where to get it from |
| 04:23.10 | Shirik | [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined |
| 04:23.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 04:23.47 | Iriel | goes back to the movie (Quantum of Solace) |
| 04:23.48 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: is there some way of storing the sniplets clousers so they arent loadstring()'d everytime? |
| 04:23.56 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: it caches them |
| 04:23.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol - |
| 04:23.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol - © 2015 MGM Television Entertainment, Inc. All Rights Reserved. |
| 04:23.59 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 04:24.06 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: Though it's suboptimal, right now (It doesn't clear the cache very well) |
| 04:24.20 | Arrowmaster | been digging through the framexml and didnt notice the cache |
| 04:24.22 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: because I missed a subtle wackiness in Lua's weak table impl. |
| 04:24.49 | Arrowmaster | that lua's weak tables dont clear on strings very often? |
| 04:24.55 | Iriel | Ever |
| 04:24.58 | Iriel | 8- |
| 04:24.59 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 04:25.00 | Iriel | Even |
| 04:25.06 | Iriel | Another 3.2 wishlist item |
| 04:25.52 | Arrowmaster | so what do you think of my proof of concept? |
| 04:26.30 | VonhintenHOME` | welp.. Ulduar is simply too fucking hard for my guild |
| 04:27.14 | Shirik | Why do you say that? |
| 04:28.56 | VonhintenHOME` | Because we have people that contribute far less than others, and Ulduar (with the exception of the joke boss) requires 25 people that knows what they're doing |
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| 04:29.44 | VonhintenHOME` | We did come close on Emalon though |
| 04:30.03 | Shirik | you got to Emalon and are complaining? |
| 04:30.16 | VonhintenHOME` | Emalon is the VoA boss |
| 04:30.25 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:30.28 | Shirik | that's why I didn't know who he was |
| 04:30.33 | Shirik | I was like "damn that's a boss I haven't seen yet" |
| 04:30.34 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:30.43 | batrick | zzz |
| 04:30.50 | VonhintenHOME` | It's pretty tricky, but any good guild could do it easily |
| 04:31.07 | VonhintenHOME` | too much for pugs |
| 04:31.25 | VonhintenHOME` | We will get it down next week, almost certainly, but XT is gonna give us fits |
| 04:31.30 | Shirik | XT is so awesome |
| 04:31.32 | VonhintenHOME` | we don't have the dps |
| 04:31.33 | ElementalNimbus | Hey guys, possibly stupid question, is this wowinterface's home irc? Or did I take a wrong turn somewhere? |
| 04:31.34 | Shirik | I would enjoy wiping to him |
| 04:31.41 | Shirik | yes, ElementalNimbus |
| 04:31.52 | ElementalNimbus | Mind if I ask a quick question? :) |
| 04:31.58 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 04:31.59 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 04:32.01 | Shirik | you jsut did |
| 04:32.12 | ElementalNimbus | Touche sir. |
| 04:32.49 | ElementalNimbus | Never had issues with the site before, love it to death. Was checking the UIs to see if any updated, however my browser was eating crashing doom. (Firefox). |
| 04:32.51 | batrick | Thunder_Child: white or black? |
| 04:33.03 | ElementalNimbus | so I switched to IE mode, and it force closed claiming java security issue, on the download page. |
| 04:33.23 | ElementalNimbus | I updated java, now firefox mode is saying a script titles 'A.A.A' is trying to run a old version of java. Seems odd, figured I'd ask. |
| 04:33.28 | ElementalNimbus | titled* |
| 04:33.50 | Thunder_Child | batrick, have something i can use to keep track of the peices> |
| 04:33.51 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 04:34.07 | batrick | you don't have a chess program? that's what shirik and I did |
| 04:34.11 | batrick | just had one open for each of us |
| 04:34.14 | Shirik | ElementalNimbus: What's your version of Java? |
| 04:34.21 | ElementalNimbus | Lemme look real fast. :) |
| 04:34.21 | Thunder_Child | no, any recomendation? |
| 04:34.34 | Shirik | also what version of firefox are you using? |
| 04:34.38 | batrick | i wouldn't know a good client for windows |
| 04:34.41 | batrick | Shirik: ? |
| 04:34.45 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:34.49 | Shirik | microsoft chess |
| 04:34.50 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:34.55 | batrick | ok that |
| 04:35.05 | ElementalNimbus | Java Platform SE 6 U13, Firefox 3.0.8 |
| 04:35.21 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:35.22 | Arrowmaster | os? |
| 04:35.26 | Thunder_Child | um, it;s not free |
| 04:35.30 | Shirik | and it's crashing? |
| 04:35.41 | ElementalNimbus | Vista one one computer, ubuntu on another. Let me check the Ubuntu one. |
| 04:35.46 | ElementalNimbus | shirik - post update, no. |
| 04:36.16 | ElementalNimbus | Just heard horror stories of zomg rooted account theft from UI sites in the past, figured better safe than sorry. Likely it's just me being dumb. ;) |
| 04:36.20 | Shirik | ah no |
| 04:36.31 | Shirik | "A.A.A" is a part of a tool blocking WoWMatrix |
| 04:36.43 | Shirik | if you must know, it actually stands for com.mmoui.SecureLink |
| 04:36.54 | Arrowmaster | did you pick that name yourself Shirik? |
| 04:37.06 | Shirik | which one? |
| 04:37.12 | Arrowmaster | A.A.A |
| 04:37.15 | Shirik | no |
| 04:37.22 | Shirik | my jar rewriter did :) |
| 04:37.26 | ElementalNimbus | Ah, works fine on Ubuntu's package. A.A.A starts fine. |
| 04:37.52 | ElementalNimbus | Musta has super old java on vista that crashed, then newest version is like "ZOMG Old Script!". |
| 04:38.04 | Shirik | honestly I'm not sure why it's saying it's old |
| 04:38.07 | Shirik | it was written with JDK 6 |
| 04:38.18 | Shirik | though it is made to work with JRE 5 |
| 04:38.27 | ElementalNimbus | I figured it has to do with wowmatrix pwning times. glad to hear it's a known script. :) |
| 04:38.46 | ElementalNimbus | to clarify what it's saying: |
| 04:38.47 | Shirik | are you on 64 bit? |
| 04:38.56 | ElementalNimbus | 32bit |
| 04:39.13 | ElementalNimbus | "The application requires a earlier version of Java. Do you want to continue (y/n) |
| 04:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | it worked here on 64-bit linux |
| 04:39.15 | Thunder_Child | batrick, black |
| 04:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Which I was impressed with |
| 04:39.24 | Shirik | that is odd, ElementalNimbus |
| 04:39.30 | ElementalNimbus | Subtext: the required version of Java, 1.6.0-oem, is not the latest and may not contain the latest security updates." |
| 04:39.56 | ElementalNimbus | It runs fine, just may scare some people if I'm not the only one. May want to clarify somewhere that A.A.A is good times. :) |
| 04:40.17 | ElementalNimbus | Good job on killing matrix btw, I work for a server farm and know how rough bandwidth theft is. |
| 04:40.27 | Shirik | I will see if I can't figure out why that's popping up |
| 04:40.34 | Shirik | I wasn't aware of it |
| 04:40.36 | Shirik | thanks |
| 04:40.57 | Arrowmaster | how many different versions of java so up in add/remove programs for you? |
| 04:41.12 | Arrowmaster | hates that about java updates |
| 04:41.12 | ElementalNimbus | Let me look arrow. :) |
| 04:41.35 | Thunder_Child | batrick, unless you want me to be white |
| 04:41.49 | ElementalNimbus | Also: there is a post http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22534 which describes what was happening to me, could be related. Firefox was just peeing itself and dieing before I updated java. |
| 04:42.26 | ElementalNimbus | Arrow: Java(TM) 6 Update 13, and Java(TM) SE Runetime Enviroment 6 |
| 04:45.06 | ElementalNimbus | Sorry to create such haberdashery on your evening. :< |
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| 04:51.58 | Wobin | ugh |
| 04:52.05 | Wobin | I can't handle shortened disease times =P |
| 04:52.21 | Wobin | Epidemic is a required talent for me =P |
| 04:55.11 | Shirik | ElementalNimbus: This information is important :P |
| 04:55.56 | Syzgyn | So apparently my guild is terrible |
| 04:56.20 | Syzgyn | A night wiping on Deconstructor |
| 04:56.27 | Syzgyn | and now a night wiping on Kologarn |
| 04:57.06 | Shirik | that's bad? |
| 04:57.36 | Syzgyn | Well, in our 10man group we breezed past both of them |
| 04:57.41 | ZorbaGama | well, we've gone from "don't kill malygos sparks" to "kill malygos sparks the instant they spawn" |
| 04:57.44 | ZorbaGama | that's progress, sort of |
| 04:58.08 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:58.12 | Shirik | "Don't stand in the sparks" |
| 04:58.15 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 04:58.18 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 04:58.22 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 04:58.30 | NightHawkTheSane | we just got to phase 2(3?) of razorscale tonight.. |
| 04:58.37 | Shirik | yay |
| 04:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | thats after two full nights of wiping to him |
| 04:58.48 | Shirik | really, once we got to phase 3, he was dead |
| 04:58.51 | Syzgyn | That's a fun fight |
| 04:58.56 | Shirik | so, you shouldn't have much further to go |
| 04:59.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Honestly, Yeah, we're getting cleaner on the first part. We just need our dps to suck less and get to phase 3 faster. |
| 05:02.26 | ZorbaGama | malygos failure. three players above 3000dps, three players below 1000dps, and only one of those was a tank :( |
| 05:02.53 | Corrodias | are you serious? |
| 05:03.11 | Corrodias | people had 2000dps in BC :o |
| 05:03.19 | Gnarfoz | ZorbaGama: 10man? |
| 05:03.39 | Corrodias | how can someone be level 80 and do half the damage a kara-geared raider did at 70? |
| 05:03.40 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e4 |
| 05:03.55 | Corrodias | or maybe i'm thinking 1200 |
| 05:04.07 | ZorbaGama | yep, 10man |
| 05:04.23 | Gnarfoz | well, that reduces buffs, but... sub 1000 |
| 05:04.24 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 05:04.32 | Corrodias | good thing nobody's paying attention to me. i might be completely forgetting the numbers i used to know. |
| 05:05.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: never underestimate the potential for failure |
| 05:05.44 | Xinhuan | how do you go below 4k dps with stacked sparks :o |
| 05:06.31 | NightHawkTheSane | see above? |
| 05:07.38 | ZorbaGama | xinhuan, ZorbaGama> well, we've gone from "don't kill malygos sparks" to "kill malygos sparks the instant they spawn" |
| 05:07.42 | ZorbaGama | ZorbaGama> that's progress, sort of |
| 05:07.47 | Xinhuan | kek |
| 05:13.33 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:13.37 | Shirik | this is the last time I update gcc |
| 05:13.45 | Shirik | without a good reason |
| 05:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | you should /really/ ditch gentoo |
| 05:14.19 | ScytheBlade1 | gcc upgrades were one of the reasons I did |
| 05:14.20 | batrick | lol! |
| 05:14.46 | batrick | Thunder_Child: ???????????????// |
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| 05:19.59 | Thunder_Child | batrick, oh, you take forever and thats ok but when i do.... |
| 05:20.27 | Thunder_Child | batrick, you mean e2 to e4? |
| 05:21.22 | Shirik | does Thunder_Child not know algebraic notation? |
| 05:21.31 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, in chess? |
| 05:21.34 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:21.48 | Thunder_Child | didnt know it was required |
| 05:21.54 | batrick | Thunder_Child: yes I did, I'll just use extended notation for you |
| 05:22.18 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e7 e5 |
| 05:22.43 | Shirik | I will be the translator |
| 05:22.46 | Shirik | batrick: e5 |
| 05:23.19 | Thunder_Child | what if i simply said f6? |
| 05:23.48 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-66-11-244.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:24.00 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Then that means pawn to f6 |
| 05:24.05 | Shirik | i.e., f7-f6 |
| 05:24.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, and if it was the knight? |
| 05:24.15 | Nechckn | f6, Thunder_Child? That increases my keyboard backlighting =) |
| 05:24.17 | Shirik | Then it would be Kf6 |
| 05:24.21 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 05:24.23 | Shirik | er, sorry |
| 05:24.24 | Shirik | Nf6 |
| 05:24.32 | batrick | Ng1 - f3 |
| 05:24.35 | batrick | Thunder_Child: ^ |
| 05:24.58 | Shirik | In the very rare case where two of the same piece can go to a square, then you fill in necessary details |
| 05:25.17 | Shirik | Nef6 or Ne8f6, etc. |
| 05:25.22 | Thunder_Child | batrick, simple xx xx is fine |
| 05:25.27 | Thunder_Child | starting ending |
| 05:25.50 | Shirik | batrick, no queen's gambit :( |
| 05:25.52 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b8 c6 |
| 05:26.06 | batrick | i'm being bothered by my sister and friends on msn |
| 05:26.15 | batrick | can barely think well enough to do a regular safe opening! |
| 05:26.26 | Thunder_Child | tell them to help you, also, who the hell still uses msn? |
| 05:26.40 | batrick | f1b5 |
| 05:26.44 | Thunder_Child | besides you ofc |
| 05:27.44 | Thunder_Child | c6 d4 |
| 05:28.53 | batrick | b5a4 |
| 05:29.23 | Shirik | can I be the coloor commentary? |
| 05:29.34 | Thunder_Child | penut gallery in da house? |
| 05:29.59 | Shirik | LMAO |
| 05:30.01 | Shirik | Cairenn: http://xkcd.com/570/ |
| 05:30.18 | Cairenn | hehehe, yeah, saw that one, it's hilarious |
| 05:31.03 | Cairenn | and I still won't click on the flashing "congratulations, you are our X visitor" banners ;) |
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| 05:31.22 | Thunder_Child | b7b5 |
| 05:31.43 | Thunder_Child | this is a really odd way to play |
| 05:31.49 | Thunder_Child | kinda odding me out |
| 05:32.04 | batrick | a4b3 |
| 05:32.37 | Shirik | hold up |
| 05:32.39 | Shirik | batbot |
| 05:32.52 | Shirik | nm |
| 05:32.52 | batrick | ? |
| 05:32.59 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 05:33.46 | Shirik | I reread one of Thunder_Child's moves :) |
| 05:33.49 | Shirik | didn't fit in very well |
| 05:34.20 | Thunder_Child | not my fault you cant follow my logic |
| 05:34.33 | Thunder_Child | g8f6 |
| 05:34.34 | Shirik | no it just wasn't legal |
| 05:34.37 | Shirik | if you do it twice :P |
| 05:34.46 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 05:35.03 | Shirik | I tried to re-do one of your moves, went back to the wrong line |
| 05:35.05 | Shirik | so it wasn't legal |
| 05:35.12 | batrick | Thunder_Child: prefix your moves with my name so i notice them |
| 05:35.15 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok, i thought i was doing something wrong |
| 05:35.27 | Thunder_Child | batrick, fine you lazy bum |
| 05:35.43 | Shirik | we should make a #wowi-chess |
| 05:36.11 | Thunder_Child | i think you can get a networked game of star trek chess going |
| 05:36.30 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f3e5 |
| 05:36.34 | Shirik | what was that called |
| 05:36.45 | Thunder_Child | tri-d chess? |
| 05:36.49 | Thunder_Child | 3-d? |
| 05:36.55 | Thunder_Child | cant quite remembet |
| 05:37.05 | Shirik | oh I was thinking of something else |
| 05:37.06 | Thunder_Child | s/et/er/ |
| 05:37.09 | Shirik | played on voyager, with hex pieces |
| 05:37.53 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f6e4 |
| 05:38.29 | Thunder_Child | wasnt chess |
| 05:39.09 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 05:39.24 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, Kadis-Kot |
| 05:39.29 | Shirik | yes that's what I was thinking of |
| 05:39.56 | Thunder_Child | a whole wiki >.< http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Kadis-kot |
| 05:40.22 | Thunder_Child | and someone should really learn to use superscript |
| 05:41.04 | batrick | Thunder_Child: b3f7 |
| 05:41.10 | Thunder_Child | tbh i am fully expecting batrick to win |
| 05:41.20 | Shirik | batrick! |
| 05:41.22 | Shirik | what are you doing! |
| 05:41.31 | Shirik | unless you see a mate I hate you |
| 05:41.50 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e8e7 |
| 05:43.06 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f7d5 |
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| 05:45.39 | Thunder_Child | batrick, a8b8 |
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| 05:45.52 | batrick | seriously? |
| 05:46.11 | Thunder_Child | am i missing something? |
| 05:46.13 | batrick | o wait nvm |
| 05:46.19 | Shirik | he has to, batrick |
| 05:46.21 | batrick | haha that was a fork and i didn't even notice |
| 05:46.24 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:46.28 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 05:46.29 | batrick | lol! |
| 05:46.30 | Shirik | double fork |
| 05:46.31 | Shirik | ftw |
| 05:46.40 | Shirik | a spork? |
| 05:46.43 | tekkub | god there are I days I hate blizzy's inconsistancy |
| 05:46.51 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d5e4 |
| 05:47.16 | tekkub | crit is shown on the paperdoll as a percent, so talents that giv +x% crit are factored into the value given by the API |
| 05:47.29 | Shirik | batrick you are really confusing me now |
| 05:47.38 | tekkub | hit is given as a rating, so +x% hit talents are NOT factored into the numbers given by the API |
| 05:47.47 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, huh? he took my knight |
| 05:47.58 | Shirik | he could take your rook |
| 05:48.08 | Thunder_Child | no, i moved it |
| 05:48.14 | Shirik | you aren't looking ahead enough |
| 05:48.16 | tekkub | why report rating at all? do like crit and report %, but show rating and % on the tooltip |
| 05:48.50 | Thunder_Child | c6 you mean? |
| 05:48.53 | batrick | Shirik: you have more time than you let on |
| 05:48.57 | batrick | you should be playing me chess |
| 05:48.59 | batrick | ahole! |
| 05:49.02 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:49.05 | Shirik | I'll play you after TC |
| 05:49.13 | Thunder_Child | oh joy |
| 05:49.20 | Thunder_Child | i want to play in person damit |
| 05:49.24 | Thunder_Child | blizzcon then |
| 05:49.25 | Shirik | sorry, c6? |
| 05:49.30 | Shirik | how did you get to c6? |
| 05:49.48 | Thunder_Child | that wasnt a move, i was refering tou your idea |
| 05:49.55 | Shirik | yeah I just don't see a piece that can get there |
| 05:50.14 | Thunder_Child | bishop, then when i take it he splits with the knight |
| 05:50.36 | Shirik | oh I'm sorry |
| 05:50.51 | Shirik | reading the board backwards |
| 05:50.52 | Shirik | no not c6 :) |
| 05:50.52 | Thunder_Child | stop failing |
| 05:51.40 | NightHawkTheSane | heh.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/018790.html |
| 05:53.59 | Shirik | btw Thunder_Child it's your move |
| 05:54.02 | Shirik | in case you missed it |
| 05:54.31 | Thunder_Child | no kidding |
| 05:54.50 | Shirik | 0-0-0-0! |
| 05:54.53 | Thunder_Child | first time i have played like this....really unerving m |
| 05:54.54 | Thunder_Child | e |
| 05:54.55 | Shirik | Castle white kingside |
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| 05:55.35 | Thunder_Child | batrick, d7d6 |
| 05:57.40 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5218553/strangely-the-man-in-this-electrifying-photo-is-not-dead-today |
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| 05:58.11 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d2d3 |
| 05:58.33 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: You have to be insane to do that |
| 05:58.50 | Shirik | that's gotta be around 20KV |
| 05:58.51 | Thunder_Child | or have a good understanding of energy |
| 06:00.24 | Fisker- | rages |
| 06:00.27 | Thunder_Child | you know, it's sad when you can see doom looming but cant do anything about it |
| 06:00.55 | batrick | You can not get your queen forked =D |
| 06:01.05 | Shirik | batrick: That move has been sitting there forever |
| 06:01.05 | Thunder_Child | tell me about it |
| 06:01.09 | Shirik | why are you avoiding it |
| 06:01.20 | Shirik | oh, no, you just made a new one |
| 06:01.36 | batrick | Shirik: there is no way to fork his queen right now? |
| 06:01.41 | Shirik | there was a while ago |
| 06:01.41 | batrick | well, before right now |
| 06:01.49 | Shirik | that's when I said "WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!" |
| 06:02.00 | batrick | you'll have to show it to me |
| 06:02.16 | Thunder_Child | cant move the king back, thats checkmate |
| 06:02.26 | batrick | Why does WCIII have to seg fault everywhere QQ |
| 06:02.51 | batrick | WCIII on Wine ** |
| 06:03.44 | Thunder_Child | ok, this is going to be rather wieird. batrick, e7e6 |
| 06:04.01 | Shirik | that's what I would have done |
| 06:04.05 | Shirik | well, one of two things |
| 06:04.14 | Thunder_Child | ya, i had 1 or so other moves |
| 06:09.18 | Thunder_Child | i am trying to decide if i hate grinding or fishing more |
| 06:09.28 | Shirik | taps his foot as he waits for batrick |
| 06:10.38 | batrick | His damn knight is ruining all my checkmates |
| 06:10.49 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
| 06:10.54 | Thunder_Child | pets his knight |
| 06:11.25 | Shirik | batrick: There's an obvious solution to that |
| 06:13.46 | batrick | too many fucking alternations |
| 06:13.50 | batrick | im just gonna play it safe =) |
| 06:14.17 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e5c6 |
| 06:14.26 | Thunder_Child | good idea, as usual, make your opnent make the stupid move |
| 06:14.54 | Shirik | I prefer to make the stupid move myself |
| 06:15.00 | Thunder_Child | batrick, i take your freaking knight |
| 06:15.20 | Thunder_Child | e4 c6? |
| 06:16.15 | Shirik | I don't think you can afford that Thunder_Child |
| 06:16.32 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d1g4+ |
| 06:16.35 | Shirik | though you don't have much more choice |
| 06:16.37 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what, him taking my knight? |
| 06:16.58 | Thunder_Child | batrick, huh? |
| 06:17.04 | Shirik | d1 to g4, check |
| 06:17.13 | Shirik | Correctly, Qg4+ |
| 06:17.24 | Thunder_Child | how is that ckeck? |
| 06:17.30 | Thunder_Child | check* |
| 06:17.33 | Shirik | because your king is right there? |
| 06:17.37 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 06:17.38 | batrick | lol? |
| 06:17.42 | Thunder_Child | it's f6 |
| 06:17.50 | batrick | your King is on e6 |
| 06:17.50 | Shirik | no it's on e6? |
| 06:18.09 | Thunder_Child | fuck me, i did say e6 |
| 06:18.16 | Thunder_Child | meant f6 damit |
| 06:18.18 | Thunder_Child | oh well |
| 06:18.25 | Shirik | really? |
| 06:18.30 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 06:18.31 | Shirik | because I think e6 would have been a practical move |
| 06:18.40 | Thunder_Child | no |
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| 06:18.46 | Thunder_Child | f6 ws better |
| 06:18.50 | batrick | f6 would have lost you your queen |
| 06:18.53 | Shirik | ^ |
| 06:18.53 | batrick | err nvm |
| 06:18.56 | Shirik | it would have |
| 06:18.59 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 06:18.59 | batrick | nope |
| 06:19.21 | batrick | anyway, TC continue!~ |
| 06:19.28 | Thunder_Child | i have to go backwards, 1 sec |
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| 06:20.17 | Shirik | funny thing |
| 06:20.19 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e6f7 |
| 06:20.32 | Shirik | batrick is only 1 point up by traditional scoring |
| 06:20.37 | Shirik | and he's totally in control :P |
| 06:20.44 | Thunder_Child | i never count poiunts |
| 06:20.47 | Thunder_Child | points* |
| 06:20.54 | Shirik | I rarely do too |
| 06:20.58 | Shirik | it's pointless (no pun intended) |
| 06:21.07 | Thunder_Child | s/too// |
| 06:21.41 | Shirik | uhhhhh |
| 06:22.14 | Thunder_Child | i said never, not rarely |
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| 06:22.23 | Shirik | the "uhh" was with regards to your move |
| 06:22.28 | batrick | Thunder_child: e4d5 |
| 06:22.31 | batrick | + |
| 06:25.25 | Thunder_Child | 6 moves, 2 i can not do, 2 are checkmate |
| 06:25.41 | Shirik | and 2 magically disappear? |
| 06:25.48 | Thunder_Child | nope, thinking |
| 06:25.50 | Thunder_Child | on thoes |
| 06:25.55 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:26.01 | Shirik | well let me make it easier for you |
| 06:26.07 | Shirik | 4 are checkmate, just 2 are shorter |
| 06:26.32 | Thunder_Child | 1 gets my queen taken |
| 06:27.11 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f7e8 |
| 06:27.28 | Shirik | that was the smarter move :) |
| 06:27.32 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 06:27.34 | Shirik | though, in the end, you're still screwed |
| 06:27.34 | Thunder_Child | i see mate in 2 |
| 06:27.35 | Shirik | sorry |
| 06:27.37 | Shirik | well yes |
| 06:27.41 | Shirik | but it was still smarter |
| 06:27.47 | Shirik | also I don't see 2 |
| 06:28.02 | Thunder_Child | 3 depending on how i move |
| 06:28.07 | Shirik | then it's mate in 3 :) |
| 06:28.20 | Shirik | you can't say "in 2" unless you can force it to be in 2 :P |
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| 06:28.33 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d5c6 |
| 06:28.33 | Thunder_Child | or your oponent is stupid |
| 06:28.45 | Thunder_Child | batrick, bad move |
| 06:28.54 | Kaelten | how goes |
| 06:28.59 | Shirik | tackles Kaelten |
| 06:29.06 | Thunder_Child | batrick, ok, nvm me then |
| 06:29.09 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:29.12 | Kaelten | hiya shirik |
| 06:29.22 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Bc6+ |
| 06:29.24 | Shirik | for correction |
| 06:29.36 | Thunder_Child | batrick, c8d7 |
| 06:32.30 | Zhinjio | sup Kaelten |
| 06:32.36 | Kaelten | hey zhin |
| 06:32.43 | Kaelten | I just got one* setup for localization |
| 06:32.54 | Zhinjio | sweetness |
| 06:32.56 | Zhinjio | (slacker) |
| 06:32.58 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 06:33.04 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:33.19 | Kaelten | next time you deal with the thousands of angry people posting misinformation |
| 06:34.00 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/19/funny-pictures-quite-academic/ |
| 06:34.18 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:34.58 | batrick | Thunder_Child: c6d7 |
| 06:35.33 | Thunder_Child | batrick, d8d7 |
| 06:35.45 | Spellbinder | :O |
| 06:35.53 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g4d7 |
| 06:36.08 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e8d7 |
| 06:36.27 | batrick | Thunder_Child: c1e3 |
| 06:36.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i can feel the tension building. |
| 06:36.51 | Shirik | no |
| 06:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | no? |
| 06:36.58 | Shirik | that was more of the spring finally being broken |
| 06:36.59 | Thunder_Child | it went away tbh |
| 06:37.09 | batrick | it's going to be mate in like 20 moves now |
| 06:37.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i'm.. not going to ask what i'm feeling then |
| 06:37.11 | batrick | and uh |
| 06:37.12 | NightHawkTheSane | moves his hand |
| 06:37.15 | Shirik | If they were using algebraic notation you could see that |
| 06:37.15 | batrick | I saw no check mates btw |
| 06:37.17 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b8e8 |
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| 06:37.26 | zenzio | stop throwing hex values at each other |
| 06:37.34 | Thunder_Child | batrick, correct, i was under a stupid moment |
| 06:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hasn't really been paying attention, and is really just making smartass remarks ;) |
| 06:37.39 | Shirik | throw (unsigned int)0xb8e8; |
| 06:37.43 | batrick | Thunder_Child: 0-0 |
| 06:37.52 | Thunder_Child | i assume thats castleing? |
| 06:37.57 | Shirik | castle kingside |
| 06:37.58 | batrick | king side, yes |
| 06:38.56 | batrick | brb coffee |
| 06:39.48 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f8e7 |
| 06:39.49 | Kaelten | anyone know what event it is that fires when you get a grayed out a slot when you mail or trade |
| 06:40.13 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:42.25 | Kaelten | is it ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED |
| 06:42.59 | Shirik | yes, sorry |
| 06:43.01 | Shirik | I was trying to double check it |
| 06:43.27 | Shirik | but note it fires other times as well, iirc |
| 06:43.37 | Kaelten | yeah... |
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| 06:43.47 | Kaelten | going to try to finally fix that bug in onebag |
| 06:43.50 | Kaelten | should make tekkub happy |
| 06:44.11 | Thunder_Child | tekkub happy? |
| 06:44.17 | Shirik | unpossible! |
| 06:44.43 | tekkub | I who what |
| 06:44.52 | tekkub | you mean, That Bug? |
| 06:45.01 | Shirik | yeah, that one |
| 06:45.13 | tekkub | The Bug That Has Existed as Long as OneBag has? |
| 06:45.21 | Elkano | talking about bag mods, I wonder if I have to look out for a new one :/ |
| 06:45.22 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:45.42 | tekkub | Shirik: you know how when an item "locks" it greys out? |
| 06:45.47 | Shirik | ya |
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| 06:45.57 | tekkub | in OB it doesn't grey out unless you manually cause a BAG_UPDATE on the bag it's in |
| 06:46.03 | tekkub | it's weird |
| 06:46.09 | Shirik | huh |
| 06:46.10 | Kaelten | Elkano: I'd recommend OneBag :) |
| 06:46.20 | tekkub | and it's been like that fohevar |
| 06:46.20 | Fisker- | Elkano it's a trap |
| 06:46.31 | Kaelten | it's because I've never done anything inr esponse to that event |
| 06:46.45 | Elkano | well, Kaelten, I used to use Baggins but for some reason with 3.1 it started to disconnect me after login most of the time :/ |
| 06:46.52 | tekkub | some days I hate being a nerd... |
| 06:47.00 | Kaelten | Elkano: interesting |
| 06:47.03 | tekkub | at first glance, my desktop is funny... |
| 06:47.12 | Shirik | batrick, hurry up so I can play you! |
| 06:47.20 | Elkano | it seems to be some sort of cache problem though :/ |
| 06:47.22 | tekkub | but the more I look at it the more my brain goes "that headphone cord wouldn't dangle that way! |
| 06:47.32 | zenzio | Elkano: that'll teach you to trust a hobbit |
| 06:47.34 | tekkub | l2physics! |
| 06:47.37 | *** part/#wowuidev Iriel (n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:47.39 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e3a7 |
| 06:48.41 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e7f6 |
| 06:48.49 | Fisker- | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:48.50 | Fisker- | slaps batrick around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:49.35 | batrick | Thunder_Child: c2c3 |
| 06:50.28 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e8e2 |
| 06:50.41 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, i will lose quickly for you |
| 06:51.09 | Shirik | lose quickly would be "Black Resigns" |
| 06:51.09 | batrick | Thunder_Child: b2b3 |
| 06:51.57 | Thunder_Child | batrick, h8a8 |
| 06:52.25 | Kaelten | tekkub: fixed |
| 06:52.31 | Shirik | here batrick |
| 06:52.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 06:52.41 | Shirik | do Re1 |
| 06:52.49 | Shirik | good move |
| 06:53.17 | tekkub | Kaelten: lawl, 3 minute fix you've just been putting off for 2.5yr? |
| 06:53.19 | batrick | Thunder_Child: a7e3 |
| 06:53.24 | Kaelten | yep basically |
| 06:53.33 | Kaelten | no one ever really made a big deal out of it before |
| 06:53.37 | Kaelten | so I never really thought about it |
| 06:54.56 | Shirik | Kaelten: What did you do, just fire the update routine when the event is fired? |
| 06:55.09 | Kaelten | na nothing so costly |
| 06:55.30 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b5b4 |
| 06:55.52 | Shirik | huh? |
| 06:55.56 | Shirik | what do you have at b5? |
| 06:56.01 | Shirik | nm |
| 06:56.02 | Kaelten | Shirik: basically, SetItemButtonDesaturated(self:GetSlot(bag, slot), locked, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5); |
| 06:56.04 | Shirik | mah bad |
| 06:56.16 | Kaelten | about a 5 line fix |
| 06:56.45 | tekkub | gonna spend more time talking about it than you did fixing it |
| 06:56.53 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e3d4 |
| 06:57.22 | Shirik | if I were that rook I'd be pissing my pants right now |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | sigh |
| 06:58.33 | Shirik | I really wish portage would do these kinds of configuration updates without me having to manually intervene |
| 06:58.40 | Shirik | -; Log PostgreSQL backends Noitce message or not. |
| 06:58.40 | Shirik | +; Log PostgreSQL backends Notice message or not. |
| 06:59.10 | *** join/#wowuidev andorxor (n=Miranda@85.93.98.148) |
| 07:00.00 | Kaelten | Shirik: postgres is love |
| 07:00.29 | Shirik | revdep-rebuild |
| 07:01.48 | Thunder_Child | fuck you batrick |
| 07:02.36 | batrick | ? :( |
| 07:02.46 | Thunder_Child | my lack of fun moves |
| 07:02.56 | Shirik | pass |
| 07:03.22 | Shirik | You know, that's the difference between arena and chess |
| 07:03.26 | Shirik | there is no "pass" in chess |
| 07:03.41 | Shirik | have you ever been in an arena where you just sat waiting for 20 minutes for either side to make a move? |
| 07:03.44 | Shirik | I have |
| 07:03.48 | Shirik | maybe not 20 minutes but still |
| 07:03.54 | batrick | yes it's super lame |
| 07:03.58 | batrick | i hate arena |
| 07:04.14 | batrick | bring back hillsbrad imo |
| 07:04.27 | Thunder_Child | batrick, a8b8 |
| 07:04.35 | batrick | of course... guards at either city suck now |
| 07:04.55 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d4f6 |
| 07:05.13 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g7f6 |
| 07:05.36 | batrick | Thunder_Child: c3c4 |
| 07:07.16 | Shirik | "Your Linode, mpdelbuono, has exceeded the notification threshold (300) for disk io rate by averaging 892.12 for the last 2 hours. " |
| 07:07.22 | Shirik | 892 what? |
| 07:07.24 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (n=airtonix@ppp121-45-153-230.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 07:07.26 | Shirik | seriously |
| 07:07.38 | batrick | probably megabytes? |
| 07:08.08 | Shirik | per second? |
| 07:08.12 | Shirik | I hope not |
| 07:08.26 | batrick | probably per hour |
| 07:08.51 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e2b2 |
| 07:09.27 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f1d1 |
| 07:09.58 | Thunder_Child | thats just mean |
| 07:10.09 | batrick | i r |
| 07:10.11 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b2e2 |
| 07:10.23 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: The fact that you are still in the game impresses me |
| 07:10.40 | batrick | Thunder_Child: b1d2 |
| 07:10.48 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, give me a few games to A. get the feel of batrick, and B. get the feel of this style of playing |
| 07:11.09 | batrick | You can feel me over the internetz? |
| 07:11.17 | batrick | that's kinda ... |
| 07:11.18 | Thunder_Child | your style of play i can feel |
| 07:11.28 | batrick | suuuure |
| 07:11.39 | Shirik | feels batrick |
| 07:11.46 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f6f5 |
| 07:11.48 | batrick | shudders. |
| 07:11.49 | airtonix | face roll with slobber? |
| 07:12.06 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d1f3 |
| 07:12.09 | batrick | d2f3* |
| 07:12.49 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b8f8 |
| 07:13.25 | Shirik | Anyone that's not busy: Can you please dig heresiarchguild.com and tell me if there's an IPv6 entry? |
| 07:13.38 | Thunder_Child | i dig you Shirik |
| 07:14.19 | *** join/#wowuidev yabo (i=d9c73682@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8917807b984aeda5) |
| 07:14.52 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d1e1 |
| 07:15.24 | Elly | Shirik: no AAAA record |
| 07:15.31 | Shirik | thanks |
| 07:15.43 | Shirik | stupid backup servers don't seem to be responding to notify |
| 07:15.46 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e2b2 |
| 07:16.51 | yabo | hello, can one read the arguments of events like this: function OnEvent(self, event, ...) eventarg1, eventarg2, eventarg3 = select(1,...) end --? |
| 07:16.55 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f3d4 |
| 07:17.09 | Shirik | yabo: If you want to do it very badly, yes |
| 07:17.30 | yabo | can you advise me on a better way? |
| 07:17.35 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f5f4 |
| 07:17.42 | Shirik | well first off, there is /never/ a reason to do select(1, ...) |
| 07:17.47 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e1e2 |
| 07:17.53 | Shirik | you can just do local eventarg1, eventarg2, eventarg3 = ...; |
| 07:18.06 | Shirik | But, you probably should just do OnEvent(self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3) |
| 07:18.14 | Shirik | instead of grabbing it out of the vararg list |
| 07:18.20 | Thunder_Child | meh, wasnt paying attention |
| 07:18.20 | Shirik | the bytecode will be the same but it makes more sense |
| 07:18.25 | yabo | alright, cool. thank you! |
| 07:18.55 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b2e2 |
| 07:19.04 | yabo | Shirik |
| 07:19.17 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d4e2 |
| 07:19.32 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f4f3 |
| 07:20.11 | yabo | i am a little confused, i have seen this work: function OnEvent() if event == "EVENT" then if arg1 == "event_arg1" then end end end |
| 07:20.20 | Shirik | oh it works |
| 07:20.21 | yabo | how does it read arg1? |
| 07:20.23 | Shirik | it's also very bad |
| 07:20.31 | Shirik | arg1 is (was) supplied as a global |
| 07:20.39 | yabo | aha |
| 07:20.53 | *** join/#wowuidev msou| (i=msoul@meridian.sosdg.org) |
| 07:21.13 | yabo | clever, thank you! |
| 07:21.34 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g2f3 |
| 07:21.36 | *** join/#wowuidev MrUseful (i=fnbot@armory.bot.nu) |
| 07:21.54 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f8f3 |
| 07:22.10 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e2d4 |
| 07:22.31 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f3d3 |
| 07:22.38 | yabo | also, i am having a little trouble displaying my frames |
| 07:22.56 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d4c2 |
| 07:23.08 | yabo | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m691ed035 |
| 07:23.31 | yabo | lua sets the text for both fontstrings on load |
| 07:23.39 | yabo | will they appear when i load the game? |
| 07:23.47 | Shirik | sorry I don't do XML |
| 07:23.48 | kollektiv | you didnt setwidth and setheight |
| 07:23.59 | yabo | do i need to, kollektiv? |
| 07:24.01 | Thunder_Child | batrick, c7c5 |
| 07:24.13 | kollektiv | yes |
| 07:24.20 | yabo | alright |
| 07:24.23 | yabo | is that all im missing? |
| 07:24.28 | yabo | for the frames to appear |
| 07:24.45 | kollektiv | setpoint it somewhere |
| 07:25.17 | yabo | setallpoints="true" |
| 07:25.18 | yabo | ? |
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| 07:25.40 | *** join/#wowuidev yabo2 (i=d9c73682@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6f8bd52898f3f58d) |
| 07:25.44 | yabo2 | sorry |
| 07:25.54 | yabo2 | will setallpoints="true" do? |
| 07:25.57 | yabo2 | in both frames |
| 07:26.20 | kollektiv | if you want it to stretch the entire screen then sure |
| 07:26.30 | yabo2 | oh.. :-R |
| 07:26.33 | yabo2 | Sorry, i don |
| 07:26.40 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g1f1 |
| 07:26.44 | yabo2 | t understand how to do frames very well |
| 07:26.50 | yabo2 | and i have yet to find good documentation |
| 07:26.51 | kollektiv | you can just do the same thing you did inside the font string |
| 07:27.02 | Thunder_Child | batrick, d3h3 |
| 07:27.15 | yabo2 | what do you mean? |
| 07:27.28 | Cairenn | well, I just lost my cool, god I hate people |
| 07:27.39 | kollektiv | put the <Anchors>..</Anchors> above the layers tag |
| 07:27.41 | Thunder_Child | welcome to the club Cairenn |
| 07:27.47 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f1g2 |
| 07:27.50 | kollektiv | copy it over |
| 07:28.06 | yabo2 | ok |
| 07:28.09 | Thunder_Child | batrick, h3c3 |
| 07:28.17 | yabo2 | do i still need it in the fontstrings then? |
| 07:28.22 | kollektiv | yes |
| 07:29.03 | batrick | Thunder_Child: c2e3 |
| 07:29.17 | yabo2 | alright, awesome! |
| 07:29.20 | yabo2 | thanks alot |
| 07:29.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 07:29.52 | yabo2 | by the way |
| 07:30.28 | Thunder_Child | batrick, d7e6 |
| 07:30.28 | yabo2 | is there a universal way to do the width/height of fontstrings, or do i use something i think will fit? |
| 07:31.00 | yabo2 | or is the width/height supposed to be in the <Frame> only? |
| 07:32.07 | batrick | Thunder_Child: a1e1 |
| 07:32.40 | yabo2 | (((on a different note, are you playing chess or something? :)))) |
| 07:32.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 07:32.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Zealin (n=Lucas_Bi@cm56-200-51.liwest.at) |
| 07:32.57 | Thunder_Child | no batrick, you dont get a free split |
| 07:33.01 | yabo2 | points at the a1e1, d7e6 etc. |
| 07:33.09 | Thunder_Child | yes yabo2 |
| 07:33.16 | yabo2 | how fun :D |
| 07:33.18 | Shirik | yabo2: They're playing chess in the bad way |
| 07:33.23 | Shirik | Thunder_Child doesn't know algebraic notation |
| 07:33.44 | Thunder_Child | fuck off Shirik, i am lazy, this is eaiser |
| 07:33.52 | Shirik | I've already made a bunch of mistakes |
| 07:33.52 | Thunder_Child | for me |
| 07:33.57 | Shirik | and I eventually gave up |
| 07:35.17 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 07:35.27 | Thunder_Child | [Event "Edited game"] |
| 07:35.29 | Thunder_Child | [Site "TCC"] |
| 07:35.31 | Thunder_Child | [Date "2009.04.19"] |
| 07:35.34 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 07:35.35 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 07:35.49 | yabo2 | oh yes, also, will this work: http://yabo.pastebin.com/m15c109c6 ? |
| 07:36.26 | Shirik | shouldn't that be in OnLoad? |
| 07:36.31 | Shirik | I'm not sure where you're calling that |
| 07:36.32 | Shirik | but yes |
| 07:36.45 | yabo2 | im thinking about the way i use the frame as an argument |
| 07:36.56 | yabo2 | i have used the lines of the function many times with success |
| 07:36.56 | Shirik | however, you would slightly improve your performance (unnoticably) by making those locals instead of upvalues |
| 07:36.57 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e6f7 |
| 07:37.21 | Shirik | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m1e63012d |
| 07:37.55 | yabo2 | cool, thank you |
| 07:38.59 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e3d5 |
| 07:39.36 | Thunder_Child | batrick, c3c2 |
| 07:41.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Vilkku (n=Vilkku@86-60-147-111-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
| 07:41.25 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e1e7 |
| 07:41.39 | *** join/#wowuidev pb_ee1 (n=nospam@meilleu015869-2.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 07:42.35 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f7g6 |
| 07:43.02 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e7a7 |
| 07:44.00 | Thunder_Child | batrick, c2b2 |
| 07:44.52 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g2g3 |
| 07:45.20 | yabo2 | Shirik, what was it you said about onevent(...) and the use of ... instead of arg1, arg2 etc? (My window was closed) |
| 07:45.27 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g6g5 |
| 07:46.16 | yabo2 | your second suggestion, i think |
| 07:46.27 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f2f4 |
| 07:46.52 | Shirik | just put the arguments in the function instead of ... |
| 07:46.56 | batrick | this game is taking forrrreverrrrr |
| 07:47.02 | Shirik | OnEvent(self, evt, arg1, arg2) |
| 07:47.04 | Shirik | etc. |
| 07:47.13 | Shirik | batrick: fking kill him already |
| 07:47.17 | Shirik | How am I supposed to own you |
| 07:47.22 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g5f5 |
| 07:47.47 | yabo2 | http://yabo.pastebin.com/mf37d45c |
| 07:48.18 | batrick | Thunder_Child: h2h4 |
| 07:48.19 | yabo2 | I am looking to improve that function |
| 07:48.52 | Thunder_Child | batrick, h7h5 |
| 07:49.34 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g3f3 |
| 07:49.39 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: are you actually inputing all their moves as they play or did you script it? |
| 07:49.47 | Shirik | I was |
| 07:49.51 | Shirik | then I made too many mistakes and gave up |
| 07:50.18 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b2b1 |
| 07:51.06 | batrick | Thunder_Child: a7a6 |
| 07:51.27 | Thunder_Child | batrick, b1f1+ |
| 07:52.11 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f3g3 |
| 07:52.35 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f1g1 |
| 07:52.54 | Thunder_Child | bah, didnt mean yto do that |
| 07:53.00 | Thunder_Child | s/y// |
| 07:53.01 | batrick | take it back then |
| 07:53.31 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f5e4 |
| 07:55.33 | batrick | Thunder_Child: a6d6 |
| 07:56.18 | Thunder_Child | to make Shirik happy batrick, Rg1+ |
| 07:57.42 | Arrowmaster | are you using xboard TC? |
| 07:57.49 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g3h3 |
| 07:57.50 | Thunder_Child | winboard |
| 07:57.56 | Thunder_Child | same diff i think Arrowmaster |
| 07:58.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think |
| 07:58.22 | Thunder_Child | batrick, e4f3 |
| 07:58.41 | batrick | Thunder_Child: h3h2 |
| 07:59.02 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g1g2 |
| 07:59.06 | Thunder_Child | + |
| 07:59.38 | batrick | Thunder_Child: h2h1 |
| 08:00.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 08:00.52 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g2a2 |
| 08:01.44 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f4f5 |
| 08:02.11 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f3g3 |
| 08:03.09 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d6g6 |
| 08:03.33 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g3h3 |
| 08:04.01 | yabo2 | I am trying to check for Serpent Sting-fades, are there any easier ways to do it than this: http://yabo.pastebin.com/m3d2c0bd6 ? |
| 08:04.25 | Xinhuan | ~_~ |
| 08:04.25 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 08:04.27 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f5f6 |
| 08:04.37 | Xinhuan | can you 2 play in PMs hehe |
| 08:05.16 | Thunder_Child | no Xinhuan, we hate you |
| 08:05.29 | Thunder_Child | and we are alsmost done |
| 08:05.32 | Thunder_Child | almost* |
| 08:05.32 | Xinhuan | i hate you too :( |
| 08:08.04 | Shirik | I love you Xinhuan |
| 08:08.10 | batrick | Thunder_Child: ur turn |
| 08:09.20 | Thunder_Child | batrick, i know a2a1+ |
| 08:09.20 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g6g1 |
| 08:09.48 | Thunder_Child | batrick, a1a2 |
| 08:11.31 | msou| | when you get pissed if someone tells you "you cannot tank"? |
| 08:11.33 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g1g8 |
| 08:12.37 | msou| | that guy yesterday cause he was higher level in the group lvl 51 and I was 50 right.. he's a paladin and all were 56 and under. doing ST and I had to heal him/her/it three times in a row within secs.. I told him you cannot really tank and he got pissed |
| 08:12.43 | Thunder_Child | i dont like it batrick, but the only way i can see to win is to for a 20 move rotation |
| 08:13.18 | Thunder_Child | force* |
| 08:13.23 | msou| | all were 46 sorry |
| 08:13.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Zealin (n=Lucas_Bi@cm56-200-51.liwest.at) |
| 08:13.46 | Thunder_Child | err..not win stalemate |
| 08:14.14 | Thunder_Child | well, lets see first |
| 08:14.23 | batrick | we'll see |
| 08:14.25 | batrick | make ur move |
| 08:14.33 | Thunder_Child | batrick, a2f2 |
| 08:15.59 | batrick | Thunder_Child: h1g1 |
| 08:16.16 | Thunder_Child | nice |
| 08:17.21 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f2f3 |
| 08:19.10 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g8e8 |
| 08:20.12 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f3g3 |
| 08:21.03 | batrick | Thunder_Child: g1f1 |
| 08:21.13 | *** join/#wowuidev Thelyna (n=burp@222-152-14-202.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 08:22.37 | Thunder_Child | batrick, h3h4 |
| 08:23.21 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f6f7 |
| 08:23.46 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g3f3 |
| 08:24.21 | batrick | Thunder_Child: f2e2 |
| 08:24.43 | Thunder_Child | batrick, ? |
| 08:24.46 | Thunder_Child | f1? |
| 08:24.59 | batrick | ya |
| 08:25.12 | Thunder_Child | batrick, f3f7 |
| 08:26.23 | batrick | Thunder_Child: e8b8 |
| 08:26.50 | Thunder_Child | batrick, h4g3 |
| 08:27.26 | batrick | ah fuk |
| 08:27.32 | batrick | I moved my rook to the wrong spot |
| 08:27.33 | batrick | o well |
| 08:27.33 | NeoTron | wow. playing chess over irc... |
| 08:28.05 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron, vs? |
| 08:28.08 | AnduinLothar | couldnt do that in whispers? |
| 08:28.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@host86-151-166-54.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:28.27 | Thunder_Child | no one was using the channel when we started, and Shirik wanted to watch |
| 08:29.13 | Thunder_Child | we will make our own channel next time |
| 08:30.39 | ReAn | shitsticks |
| 08:30.55 | ReAn | i forgot to write down how many downloads my mod had before pushing the new version on wowi :( |
| 08:31.10 | batrick | Thunder_Child: b8g8 |
| 08:32.03 | Thunder_Child | batrick, g3h3 |
| 08:33.43 | ReAn | chess? |
| 08:33.49 | NeoTron | so anyone thing the feral druid nerf bat is coming soon? |
| 08:33.54 | Thunder_Child | yes ReAn |
| 08:33.56 | NeoTron | our feral druid absolutely dominates our dps |
| 08:34.07 | ReAn | NeoTron: 3.1 nerfed thier tanking |
| 08:34.14 | ReAn | and i out dps feral druids nekkid |
| 08:34.20 | NeoTron | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-hf4dOepqrmOOe7gb/sum/damageDone/ |
| 08:35.15 | batrick | Thunder_Child: d5d6 |
| 08:35.17 | NeoTron | was even more obvious on XT though |
| 08:35.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=TC@cpe-76-169-229-41.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 08:35.47 | batrick | 01:35:14 < batrick> Thunder_Child: d5d6 |
| 08:35.50 | NeoTron | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-AbRzfH73AyG7X3D3/sum/damageDone/?s=5989&e=6323 zoom |
| 08:36.04 | NeoTron | although admittedly the rogue was almost identical in that one |
| 08:36.11 | Thunder_Child | batrick, how? |
| 08:36.20 | batrick | oops |
| 08:36.22 | batrick | d5b6 |
| 08:36.53 | Thunder_Child | batrick, h5h4 |
| 08:37.21 | batrick | Thunder_Child: b6a4 |
| 08:37.28 | ReAn | please tell me you two are using some kind of visual aid |
| 08:37.34 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 08:37.37 | Thunder_Child | in our heads |
| 08:37.44 | ReAn | jesus christ |
| 08:37.53 | batrick | lol |
| 08:37.53 | Thunder_Child | j/k ReAn |
| 08:37.59 | ReAn | hey |
| 08:38.01 | ReAn | it's been done |
| 08:38.03 | ReAn | many time |
| 08:38.03 | ReAn | s |
| 08:38.18 | batrick | i had a friend who used to play chess against himself in his head |
| 08:38.21 | ReAn | i will not underestimate the collective nerdiness in this room |
| 08:38.21 | Thunder_Child | yep, but i could do no more than 10 moves before my brain fried |
| 08:38.33 | foxlit | That's an illegal move! |
| 08:38.42 | Thunder_Child | and we are on turn 66 or so |
| 08:39.54 | Thunder_Child | we are going to have to shelve it soon batrick, it's been going for 3.5+ hours....and i hasto sleep soon |
| 08:40.00 | Thunder_Child | has to* |
| 08:40.38 | batrick | ur on the verge of losing! |
| 08:41.04 | Thunder_Child | i dont mind conceding (sp?) |
| 08:41.06 | Trela | You just lost the game. |
| 08:42.09 | Thunder_Child | though i would not say i am on the verge of losing |
| 08:42.53 | batrick | you are, it will just take a while |
| 08:42.56 | batrick | your king is pinned |
| 08:43.06 | batrick | and I can use my king and knight to take your pawns |
| 08:43.09 | batrick | and the proceed to win |
| 08:43.59 | Thunder_Child | not really, if your rook is imobilzed you have effectively lost the use of one of your peices |
| 08:44.17 | batrick | but you have also lost use of your king, one of the most important pieces in the end game |
| 08:44.31 | batrick | and I can leverage my knight and king to counter your rook's protection of your pawns |
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| 08:45.16 | Thunder_Child | batrick, well i have the option to save if you want to continue this later |
| 08:45.51 | batrick | if you wish |
| 08:46.07 | Thunder_Child | ok, if noting else it will be a lesson in interestingness |
| 08:46.52 | Thunder_Child | ok, you go play Shirik, i go play sleep |
| 08:48.32 | batrick | i'm done with chess tonight |
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| 09:05.26 | Cide | hi |
| 09:06.31 | foxlit | lo |
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| 09:15.04 | dolseni | mmm.... which is better for a holy pally: 8 int, 5 mp5, or 12 stam and 2mp5. I would assume the 8 int |
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| 09:34.19 | kobh | Hello! |
| 09:34.25 | Cairenn | hi |
| 09:34.27 | kobh | my frames wont appear on my screen |
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| 09:34.44 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/me8cbadd |
| 09:34.51 | kobh | am i missing something? |
| 09:36.08 | Syzgyn | So the argent squire pet is awesome |
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| 09:40.36 | kobh | what does a frame need to be visible? |
| 09:41.46 | jnwhiteh | it needs to be not hidden |
| 09:41.49 | jnwhiteh | and its parent needs to be not hidden |
| 09:41.53 | jnwhiteh | it has to have a visual component so you can see it |
| 09:42.03 | jnwhiteh | and it must be anchored somewhere visibly on the screen |
| 09:42.21 | jnwhiteh | do some simple testing, /run print(XqoQFrame) and make sure its being created |
| 09:42.30 | jnwhiteh | then /run print(XqoQFrame:GetRect()) to see if it has a place on the screen |
| 09:42.30 | jnwhiteh | etc |
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| 09:43.16 | jnwhiteh | but your schema definition is wrong |
| 09:43.17 | jnwhiteh | for one |
| 09:43.58 | jnwhiteh | and your XML file is wrong |
| 09:44.02 | jnwhiteh | it has errors |
| 09:44.12 | jnwhiteh | which would likely appear in Logs/FrameXML.log |
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| 09:45.16 | kobh | Interface\AddOns\XqoQ\XqoQ.lua:8: attempt to index global 'XqoQFrame' (a nil value) |
| 09:45.20 | jnwhiteh | kobh: http://yabo.pastebin.com/m40d49093 |
| 09:45.34 | jnwhiteh | validates properly |
| 09:45.43 | jnwhiteh | if you're writing XML its useful to download a validator |
| 09:45.47 | kobh | alright |
| 09:45.48 | kobh | what is wrong with <size? |
| 09:45.56 | jnwhiteh | you didn't have a closing " on the first one |
| 09:45.58 | jnwhiteh | on the y coord |
| 09:46.04 | jnwhiteh | and you didn't have an end tag for the second |
| 09:46.08 | jnwhiteh | i highlighted the changed lines |
| 09:46.20 | kobh | oh yes |
| 09:46.23 | kobh | thank you very much |
| 09:47.14 | jnwhiteh | ack |
| 09:47.16 | jnwhiteh | i had the schema wrong |
| 09:47.17 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 09:47.33 | jnwhiteh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/mc45000d |
| 09:47.34 | jnwhiteh | there we go |
| 09:47.35 | jnwhiteh | now it vlaidates |
| 09:48.18 | kobh | wicked, thanks a lot! |
| 09:48.28 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/14b8713d8b121ea03d5795a357a513bf.png |
| 09:49.00 | kobh | what does setallpoints do? |
| 09:49.05 | kobh | i dont understand points |
| 09:49.28 | jnwhiteh | do you have the WowProgramming book, it explains them pretty well |
| 09:49.43 | krka | sometimes it's hard to get the point |
| 09:49.43 | jnwhiteh | but what setallpoints does, is set the child frame to be the same size and location as the parent frame |
| 09:49.48 | kobh | no, can i find it on the wowprogramming website? |
| 09:49.54 | Syzgyn | wowprogramming.com |
| 09:49.59 | jnwhiteh | think of it as pinning all of the various points (topleft, topright, bottomleft, bottomright) |
| 09:50.04 | jnwhiteh | nah, that content isn't on there |
| 09:50.15 | jnwhiteh | otherwise there wouldn't be a book :P |
| 09:50.24 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/chapters/10 |
| 09:51.07 | kobh | oo, the examplefiles will be helpful |
| 09:51.08 | kobh | thanks |
| 09:51.23 | kobh | i guess i should start looking for the book |
| 09:51.44 | jnwhiteh | totally up to you |
| 09:51.49 | jnwhiteh | there are some wowwiki pages that might cover it |
| 09:52.01 | jnwhiteh | the book just gives it all in one place and I wrote it, so I'm more familiar with it =) |
| 09:52.26 | Syzgyn | </shameless plug> :P |
| 09:52.31 | kobh | :-D |
| 09:52.32 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 09:52.35 | jnwhiteh | if i could give it away I would |
| 09:52.37 | jnwhiteh | but I can't. |
| 09:52.56 | jnwhiteh | I just wrote it and think people should use it to learn if they can, otherwise we end up repeating the same things over and over again |
| 09:52.58 | jnwhiteh | so in the end |
| 09:53.02 | jnwhiteh | its just because I'm lazy *grin* |
| 09:53.03 | Syzgyn | hey, I bought it, so :P |
| 09:53.32 | jnwhiteh | and we're doing the second edition due out sometime later this year |
| 09:53.42 | jnwhiteh | if anyone wants a review copy and is willing to post a review for us, ping me :P |
| 09:54.00 | Syzgyn | Sure, why not |
| 09:55.15 | kobh | SETALLPOINTS set to true in frame with anchors (ignored) |
| 09:55.23 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 09:55.28 | jnwhiteh | anchors override setallpoints |
| 09:55.30 | jnwhiteh | afaik |
| 09:55.35 | jnwhiteh | since they're contradictory |
| 09:55.37 | Syzgyn | wtf are anchors? |
| 09:55.50 | kobh | i thought anchors told the frame where to position itself? |
| 09:55.56 | jnwhiteh | they do |
| 09:55.58 | Syzgyn | oh, from setpoint |
| 09:56.00 | Syzgyn | durrrr |
| 09:56.09 | jnwhiteh | kobh: they do, and so does setallpoints |
| 09:56.30 | kobh | oh |
| 09:56.38 | kobh | oh yes |
| 09:56.41 | kobh | now i get it |
| 09:57.11 | zenzio | failure: http://www.fvn.no/multimedia/archive/00444/Glamsland_029_jpg_444593m.jpg (notice the part sticking out of the water) |
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| 09:57.35 | kobh | hum |
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| 09:58.47 | kobh | local rap, pos, neg = UnitRangedAttackPower("player") |
| 09:58.57 | jnwhiteh | k? |
| 09:59.02 | kobh | my frame shows 1935, my ap is 4919 |
| 09:59.08 | Syzgyn | zenzio: what is that? |
| 09:59.20 | jnwhiteh | are you using rap + pos - neg to display it? |
| 09:59.23 | jnwhiteh | or what: |
| 09:59.27 | kobh | oh |
| 09:59.29 | kobh | no im not |
| 09:59.31 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 09:59.33 | jnwhiteh | rap is your base rap |
| 09:59.34 | kobh | im only displaying rap |
| 09:59.35 | jnwhiteh | pos is the bonus |
| 09:59.43 | kobh | alright |
| 09:59.45 | jnwhiteh | neg is any negative "bonus" |
| 10:00.21 | zenzio | Syzgyn: they were doing some construction work on a new road near the road you see, and they'd been blowing up some rock, when they discovered a lot of loose clay |
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| 10:00.30 | zenzio | then water poured in from a nearby pond |
| 10:00.37 | jnwhiteh | hah |
| 10:00.45 | Syzgyn | oh snap, thats a backhoe isnt it |
| 10:01.11 | zenzio | now they're thinking they may have to build a bridge instead, apparently there's a 16-meter layer of clay under the road |
| 10:04.20 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m4bf3ff72 |
| 10:04.40 | kobh | the idea is to to check for my Serpent Sting to fade from target |
| 10:04.55 | kobh | am i doing that right? :| |
| 10:05.13 | jnwhiteh | is it working? :P |
| 10:05.30 | kobh | i dont know :R |
| 10:05.35 | kobh | i still have to sort the xml |
| 10:05.38 | kobh | XqoQ was just a test |
| 10:05.41 | kobh | to make frames appear |
| 10:05.44 | jnwhiteh | well have it print |
| 10:05.46 | jnwhiteh | then you can tell |
| 10:06.01 | jnwhiteh | just print("Detected removal of Serpent Sting" |
| 10:06.03 | jnwhiteh | ) |
| 10:06.07 | jnwhiteh | and then you'll be able to see |
| 10:06.20 | jnwhiteh | leave the GUI stuff until after you know how the functionaly is supposed to work :P |
| 10:07.16 | kobh | alright |
| 10:07.19 | kobh | but |
| 10:07.23 | kobh | is there an easier way to check? |
| 10:07.33 | jnwhiteh | that IS the easiest way to check |
| 10:07.38 | kobh | :| |
| 10:07.42 | jnwhiteh | why is that difficult? |
| 10:07.45 | jnwhiteh | you already have the code |
| 10:07.49 | jnwhiteh | just go serpent sting something |
| 10:07.52 | jnwhiteh | and you'll know |
| 10:07.55 | jnwhiteh | or am i missing something =( |
| 10:08.23 | kobh | i was just hoping for an event or something.. UNIT_AURA_FADE arg1=aura-name |
| 10:08.27 | kobh | :R |
| 10:08.31 | jnwhiteh | you have one :P |
| 10:08.37 | jnwhiteh | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 10:08.55 | jnwhiteh | just go test it!!! |
| 10:09.30 | kobh | working on it! :R |
| 10:10.02 | kobh | did i do the framestuff right? |
| 10:10.06 | kobh | in the lua i pasted |
| 10:10.11 | kobh | that registers for the event |
| 10:10.50 | jnwhiteh | your setscript needs to go after the function definition |
| 10:10.53 | jnwhiteh | other than that, ys. |
| 10:11.05 | jnwhiteh | since at the point where line 2 runs, the function doesn't exist yet. |
| 10:13.35 | kobh | :D:D:DD |
| 10:13.36 | kobh | wuhu! |
| 10:14.21 | jnwhiteh | a minor thing |
| 10:14.22 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.40 | jnwhiteh | that could just be local desc, srcGUID, srcName, _, destGUID = select(2, ...) |
| 10:14.46 | jnwhiteh | and select(1, ...) is the same as ... |
| 10:14.49 | jnwhiteh | so its a bit meaningless :P |
| 10:15.03 | kobh | alright :R |
| 10:19.18 | kobh | oh by the way |
| 10:19.38 | kobh | you just ranked up to my personal gotoguy for all things lua/xml. |
| 10:19.41 | kobh | grats! |
| 10:19.53 | Zootfizzle | ~whaleponcho jnwhiteh |
| 10:19.54 | purl | ACTION uses the magic of nanotubes to create a whale shaped poncho around jnwhiteh, protecting them. |
| 10:20.08 | jnwhiteh | zomghai |
| 10:20.12 | Zootfizzle | oh hi there |
| 10:20.14 | Zootfizzle | i made you a whale |
| 10:20.33 | jnwhiteh | othankz! |
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| 10:29.34 | kobh | UNIT_SPELLCAST_START |
| 10:29.43 | kobh | that counts for instant cast spells too, right? |
| 10:30.00 | Fisker- | ~whalenuke Zootfizzle |
| 10:30.01 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Zootfizzle with his mind powers. |
| 10:30.04 | Fisker- | i hate whales |
| 10:30.11 | kobh | also, are spellnames written in english, ie Serpent Sting, and not SerpentSting or whatever? |
| 10:32.37 | Arrowmaster | yes english |
| 10:32.46 | Arrowmaster | if you are on an english client |
| 10:32.57 | kobh | nvm spellcast_start, ill use spellcast_succeeded instead |
| 10:32.58 | kobh | alright, thanks |
| 10:33.09 | jnwhiteh | you can use spellids |
| 10:33.12 | jnwhiteh | which we would recommend |
| 10:33.18 | jnwhiteh | just have a set of spellids that map to serpent sting |
| 10:33.20 | jnwhiteh | and it works on any client |
| 10:33.45 | kobh | alright then |
| 10:34.31 | kobh | so if spellid in [list of serpent serpentsting-rank spellids] dostuff |
| 10:34.32 | kobh | ? |
| 10:34.40 | jnwhiteh | basically |
| 10:34.44 | jnwhiteh | but not that syntex |
| 10:34.48 | kobh | of course |
| 10:35.27 | kobh | wowhead has spellids right? |
| 10:35.29 | kobh | in the url? |
| 10:35.29 | jnwhiteh | spellIds = {[1978] = true, [13549] = true, [13550] = true}; if spellIds[spellId] then blah end |
| 10:35.30 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:35.31 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=serpent+sting#abilities |
| 10:35.35 | jnwhiteh | thats the first three ranks. |
| 10:35.55 | kobh | spellids are numbers or strings? |
| 10:36.20 | amro | numbers |
| 10:36.29 | jnwhiteh | nums |
| 10:36.43 | kobh | alright |
| 10:38.20 | kobh | but UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED returns spellnames |
| 10:38.22 | kobh | muuh |
| 10:40.35 | kobh | OKAY |
| 10:40.40 | kobh | everything works great |
| 10:40.51 | kobh | now for tricky xml |
| 10:41.22 | kobh | does the FontTest.xml in the Chapter 10 examples still work? |
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| 10:47.30 | DWSR | *sigh* at the flamethread on Curse about WoWM. |
| 10:47.33 | DWSR | 155 posts. |
| 10:48.58 | Arrowmaster | the news post has 736 replys |
| 10:49.06 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 10:49.30 | DWSR | The admin's word is final <- kthx. |
| 10:51.10 | kobh | :RegisterEvent |
| 10:51.21 | kobh | should i do that on the parent frame of the fontstring, or the fontstring itself? |
| 10:54.54 | kobh | there we go with the frames not appearing again |
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| 10:56.58 | kobh | xml validator says my xml is cool, and \Logs\FrameXML.log is empty |
| 10:57.40 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m5e79e784 |
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| 10:59.59 | Zootfizzle | kobh: The FontString's parent |
| 11:00.27 | kobh | <FontString name="XqoSerpent_CurrentAP" inherits="GameFontNormal" text="" parent="XqoSerpentCFrame"> |
| 11:00.28 | kobh | like that? |
| 11:01.01 | Zootfizzle | No, for RegisterEvent |
| 11:01.06 | kobh | oh ok |
| 11:01.14 | kobh | yes that is in order |
| 11:01.20 | kobh | but my frames wont appear |
| 11:01.40 | Zootfizzle | Any Lua to go along with this XML? |
| 11:01.57 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m20398ad3 |
| 11:02.03 | kobh | yeppers! |
| 11:03.01 | Zootfizzle | You're not passing in the event details in your OnEvent handler |
| 11:03.19 | Zootfizzle | You probably want it to be <OnEvent>XqoSerpent_OnEvent(self, event, ...)</OnEvent> |
| 11:03.48 | kobh | okay, testing |
| 11:04.02 | Zootfizzle | Otherwise in XqoSerpent_OnEvent, event == nil |
| 11:05.08 | Fisker- | rages |
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| 11:07.36 | kobh | Zootfizzle |
| 11:08.00 | Zootfizzle | kobh :) |
| 11:08.15 | kobh | Xerpent.lua:40 attempt to index global 'XqoSerpent_Current' (a number value) |
| 11:08.25 | kobh | ooh |
| 11:08.28 | kobh | i need to make it a string |
| 11:08.32 | kobh | before i set the text to it? |
| 11:08.44 | kobh | you cant :SetText(number)? |
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| 11:09.46 | kobh | so umm.. i should probably know this, but how do you convert a number to a string in lua? is there a function like str() in python? |
| 11:10.08 | krka | tostring |
| 11:10.23 | Zootfizzle | The conversion is automatic for what you're describing though, that isn't the Lua error you think it is :P |
| 11:10.32 | kobh | oh |
| 11:10.36 | kobh | what is wrong then? :| |
| 11:11.14 | Zootfizzle | XqoSerpent_Current is a number and you're trying to run a function on it :) |
| 11:12.29 | kobh | oh, im mixing CurrentAP with Current everywhere |
| 11:12.33 | kobh | silly person |
| 11:13.13 | Zootfizzle | wanders off to try for more sleep |
| 11:13.14 | kobh | wait no |
| 11:13.15 | kobh | am i? |
| 11:13.15 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m417eb0aa |
| 11:13.40 | kobh | yes i am |
| 11:13.41 | krka | what specific example are you discussing? numbers aren't automatically converted to strings in general |
| 11:13.42 | kobh | thanks! |
| 11:13.57 | kobh | i found the problem, krka. But thanks!! |
| 11:14.02 | Zootfizzle | The SetText method on a fontstring, krka |
| 11:14.21 | krka | ah i see |
| 11:14.44 | krka | i am guessing that SetText internally uses the lua api to get a string, and that will in turn convert numbers to strings if necessary |
| 11:15.03 | Zootfizzle | Yep :) |
| 11:15.13 | Zootfizzle | gives krka a star |
| 11:15.17 | krka | yay |
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| 11:16.32 | kobh | my addon is done, yippee |
| 11:16.36 | kobh | thanks alot everyone! |
| 11:16.38 | krka | probably this http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#lua_tolstring "The Lua value must be a string or a number; otherwise, the function returns NULL. If the value is a number, then lua_tolstring also changes the actual value in the stack to a string" |
| 11:16.54 | krka | weird, i didnt know it modified the stack too |
| 11:18.20 | kobh | oh wait |
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| 11:29.54 | kobh | frame:SetMovable(true) - "attempt to call method 'SetMovable' (a nil value)" |
| 11:29.56 | kobh | ??? |
| 11:30.54 | Elkano | maybe Moveable? |
| 11:30.55 | jnwhiteh | !api SetMovable |
| 11:30.56 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'Frame:SetMovable' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetMovable |
| 11:31.01 | jnwhiteh | nope, its spelled correctly |
| 11:31.02 | jnwhiteh | you sureits a frame? |
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| 11:31.09 | jnwhiteh | and not a texture or some other table? |
| 11:31.10 | Zootfizzle | Dude, it's called frame |
| 11:31.12 | Zootfizzle | :) |
| 11:31.20 | kobh | its a function |
| 11:31.34 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m3956dc91 |
| 11:31.36 | kobh | that |
| 11:31.41 | jnwhiteh | Zootfizzle: names mean nothing =) |
| 11:32.01 | Zootfizzle | is shocked |
| 11:32.05 | kobh | you cant pass it frames like that? |
| 11:32.13 | jnwhiteh | sure you can |
| 11:32.16 | jnwhiteh | but i dont know what you're passing in |
| 11:32.21 | jnwhiteh | why don't you add a print to the top of the function |
| 11:32.37 | jnwhiteh | print(frame:GetName()) and see whats being passed in |
| 11:33.22 | kobh | XqoSerpent_Current |
| 11:33.31 | kobh | that is one of the parents to my fontstrings |
| 11:33.47 | jnwhiteh | then it should be a frame, so not really sure what to tell you |
| 11:33.53 | jnwhiteh | other than experiment with it in-game |
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| 11:35.56 | kobh | crazy xml is crazy. |
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| 11:42.29 | kobh | this are the frames being passed to the function: http://yabo.pastebin.com/m4ed74bfb |
| 11:43.04 | kobh | these* |
| 11:43.16 | kobh | OH |
| 11:43.18 | nevcairiel | You would have to pass the actual frame, not the fontstring, though |
| 11:43.19 | kobh | im passing the text |
| 11:43.23 | kobh | yes i see now |
| 11:43.24 | kobh | thanksaroo :R |
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| 11:55.56 | amro | pro pug: wiped on emalon trash |
| 11:57.03 | Grum | kek |
| 11:57.24 | ReAn[Laptop] | lol |
| 11:57.33 | ReAn[Laptop] | emalon is one thing, but his trash >_> |
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| 11:57.59 | kobh | my guild, which is on auriaya, cant kill emalon... :-R |
| 11:58.20 | ReAn[Laptop] | emalon isn't a cakewalk |
| 11:58.25 | ReAn[Laptop] | he aint seriously hard |
| 11:58.34 | ReAn[Laptop] | but he's no chump |
| 11:58.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | give it 2-3 weeks |
| 11:58.47 | ReAn[Laptop] | most people will have him on farm |
| 11:58.49 | kobh | colour charts |
| 11:58.54 | kobh | tooons of addons have them |
| 11:58.59 | kobh | this circle where you select colours |
| 11:59.11 | kobh | i want one, any tips? |
| 11:59.26 | ReAn[Laptop] | Color Selector? |
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| 11:59.31 | ReAn[Laptop] | Isn't that built in? |
| 11:59.38 | kobh | it is? |
| 11:59.41 | ReAn[Laptop] | I thought blizz used them to change chat color |
| 11:59.45 | ReAn[Laptop] | so blizz has one somewhere |
| 11:59.55 | Zootfizzle | ColorPickerFrame is what you're looking for |
| 11:59.56 | ReAn[Laptop] | how you access them is another story... |
| 12:00.01 | ReAn[Laptop] | ^^ see |
| 12:00.04 | kobh | thanks! |
| 12:00.16 | Zootfizzle | http://wowcompares.com/0109767/FrameXML/ColorPickerFrame.xml |
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| 12:03.04 | Elkano | Zootfizzle, is it possible that there is a bug with the Defend aura stacks of the Argentum Tournament mounts where after reaching three stacks the UnitAura API will allways return the buff as having three stacks even if some got removed? |
| 12:03.29 | Elkano | meaning for the player unit, the vehicle returns the correct stack count |
| 12:04.08 | kobh | i have noticed that i have 3 buffs on myself, but no buffs on the mount sometimes too, Elkano. |
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| 12:05.33 | laeg | is there an alternative to the armoury that will work even when the armoury is down? |
| 12:05.39 | laeg | having problems with armoury-light.com |
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| 12:09.57 | Zootfizzle | Elkano: It's possible, I'll take a look |
| 12:11.21 | Elkano | k, thanks. Had it as a bug report for one of my addons so I looked into it a bit; UNIT_AURA does fire for all three units (player, pet, vehicle) but the players stacks stay on 3 where the vehicles reduce (haven't checked pet) |
| 12:11.33 | kobh | SetFrameStrata() |
| 12:11.43 | kobh | should i use that on my parent-frame, or the fontstring? |
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| 12:23.27 | Stanzilla | foxlit: a friend just sent me those http://pastey.net/112676 |
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| 12:55.37 | Amuro | ooo |
| 12:55.38 | Amuro | wow |
| 12:55.50 | Amuro | alot of my fav addon devs are here |
| 12:55.52 | Amuro | Elkano <3 |
| 12:56.02 | Amuro | did u release a new update yet for buff bars? |
| 12:56.44 | Trela_ | stares at Amuro. |
| 12:57.42 | Amuro | dont stare at me, i get anxious and become a attention whore |
| 12:57.58 | Trela_ | staaaaares!~ |
| 12:58.13 | Trela_ | :D |
| 12:58.20 | Amuro | pulls up her shirt |
| 12:58.26 | Amuro | flashes the room |
| 12:58.27 | Amuro | see! |
| 12:58.38 | zenzio | so Oracle buys Sun... I'm interested to see how this turns out |
| 12:58.51 | Amuro | nice change of topic |
| 12:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | Did they actually do it, or are they still just talking about it? |
| 12:58.56 | Amuro | btw what did oracle ever own |
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| 12:58.59 | Trela_ | Om nom nom nom! |
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| 12:59.02 | Amuro | i know who sun is but not oracle |
| 12:59.12 | Trela_ | Oracle is a big business database company. |
| 12:59.16 | zenzio | Amuro: you speak as if there was only one topic going on in here |
| 12:59.24 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/128246&art_pos=1 |
| 13:00.13 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, zenzio. If they stock goes up, the ex shall now owe me quite a chunk more. :) |
| 13:00.26 | zenzio | heh, sweet! |
| 13:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | He has stock investments in Sun from when he worked there. |
| 13:01.17 | Lopeppeppy | And no, I'm not being a mercenary wench, the process has turned just that ugly. Humans are silly animals. |
| 13:01.41 | Amuro | gnite guys |
| 13:01.46 | Amuro | i bid u farewell till later today |
| 13:02.03 | Amuro | salutes her fellow wownerds |
| 13:02.05 | Amuro | gnite |
| 13:02.47 | Trela_ | Sleep well, Miss Flasher! |
| 13:02.57 | theorbtwo | G'night. |
| 13:04.11 | theorbtwo | Interesting, that. Two women, and one of them quite the regular. Considering how many people like to moan about a lack of women in gaming, and in programming, that seems like a lot. |
| 13:05.08 | Trela_ | Remember, one must surpass the G.I.R.L. test before being confirmed a woman. |
| 13:05.27 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, thus far of the two of us, I'm the only one confirmed female. |
| 13:05.51 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Naturally. And you haven't confirmed it to me, either. |
| 13:06.07 | zenzio | she has to everyone who attended Blizzcon |
| 13:06.15 | Lopeppeppy | That is very sad, but I consider the portion of the channel that I met at Blizcon last year to be sufficiency of proof for now. :P |
| 13:07.00 | Trela_ | I love the acronym. |
| 13:07.02 | Trela_ | *that |
| 13:07.07 | Trela_ | I love sleep too, if I had some. |
| 13:07.11 | theorbtwo | I'm rather afraid to ask what it stands for. |
| 13:07.24 | Trela_ | Guy In Real Life. A G.I.R.L. |
| 13:08.32 | theorbtwo | Ah. |
| 13:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, I fail on some of that due to serious tomboyishness. In season, I'm more fanatical about football than any of my male friends. |
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| 13:10.59 | Trela_ | Tomboy is fine really. I like skirts, but I hate wearing for any thing normal. Too much work to be comfortable in them. |
| 13:11.48 | Lopeppeppy | I work on a college campus. The only skirts I will wear to work are long peasant-type skirts. |
| 13:12.24 | Trela_ | College campus. Hmm. Possible potential, possible instant lecher attraction. |
| 13:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh. |
| 13:12.59 | Lopeppeppy | I do not need the little monkey boys with their cellphones trying to take pictures up girls skirts on staircases. |
| 13:13.12 | theorbtwo | Hm, Trela_, you are a woman too? (Or are you just a guy who wears skirts?) |
| 13:13.22 | theorbtwo | OK, now I'm just getting silly. |
| 13:13.31 | zenzio | we always considered you silly |
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| 13:13.35 | Trela_ | Second one. |
| 13:13.39 | Trela_ | Totally. |
| 13:13.40 | Ycarene | Is there a site I can go to where I can check the effects of a piece of armor on my character? |
| 13:13.54 | Lopeppeppy | Trela_, utilikilts! |
| 13:14.09 | Lopeppeppy | Are there any sites like CT profiles anymore? I seem to remember "not" |
| 13:14.12 | theorbtwo | zenzio: Ah, and I didn't think I talked all that much in here... |
| 13:14.13 | Trela_ | is horribly girly. *>.>* |
| 13:14.36 | zenzio | theorbtwo: it's not the amount the counts, but what it all amounts to ;-p |
| 13:14.41 | zenzio | *that |
| 13:15.16 | Ycarene | I want to see how much agi I can stack on my rogue. |
| 13:15.28 | Ycarene | With pre-uld gear. |
| 13:17.17 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen spreadsheets specifically for rogues for gear/enchant min/maxing, you might check the rogue forums to see if anyone remembers/has/updates those anymore. |
| 13:18.01 | Ycarene | Well, I want to see if it's viable to make a "Rogue Tank" like gaeowyn did, though I have very little hope of that. |
| 13:18.15 | Trela_ | !cookie |
| 13:18.15 | Trela | hands Trela_ a freshly baked oatmeal chocolate chip cookie. |
| 13:18.50 | Lopeppeppy | If you have a model rogue, do they not have published material of how they did it? |
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| 13:42.55 | jnwhiteh | Argent Tournament is 80 only, right? |
| 13:48.27 | dolseni | aye |
| 13:48.31 | dolseni | ... i believe |
| 13:49.20 | mikma | lvl77+ xD |
| 13:49.26 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 13:49.27 | jnwhiteh | well i'm 73 |
| 13:49.27 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 13:49.35 | jnwhiteh | i'm really tempted just to level doing SSO dailies |
| 13:49.35 | mikma | i'm really not sure |
| 13:49.46 | mikma | you need flying mount to get there, or a summon |
| 13:49.53 | jnwhiteh | but dont want to miss the content |
| 13:50.05 | mikma | jnwhiteh: first wotlk char? |
| 13:50.08 | krka | you wouldn't be content with skipping content then |
| 13:50.11 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 13:50.16 | mikma | don't miss the content |
| 13:50.20 | jnwhiteh | i dont want to =) |
| 13:50.22 | jnwhiteh | i'm already way ahead |
| 13:50.29 | jnwhiteh | haven't left HF and already 73 =) |
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| 13:50.32 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 13:50.33 | Lopeppeppy | Do the content once first, darlin'. Then you can power-level the second and more. :) |
| 13:50.35 | jnwhiteh | 65% through 73 |
| 13:50.54 | Ose | didn't someone make a random title script/addon? |
| 13:50.56 | jnwhiteh | well it just sucks, there's no way to experience the instance content |
| 13:50.58 | Fisker- | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:51.05 | jnwhiteh | there's just no one to group with on my server |
| 13:51.08 | jnwhiteh | ask Fisker- knows |
| 13:51.21 | Fisker- | lots of people to group with on ravencrest |
| 13:51.23 | mikma | jnwhiteh: well, most of the leveling guides tell you to do Boran Tundra first, then go to Howling Fjord, so you would be 73~ when leaving there |
| 13:51.30 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 13:51.33 | jnwhiteh | well we did ALL of HF |
| 13:51.47 | jnwhiteh | just got to the northmost alliance outpost |
| 13:51.51 | jnwhiteh | so have a new quest hub there |
| 13:51.52 | Fisker- | transfer to ravencrest my friend :( |
| 13:52.07 | jnwhiteh | too expensive to do it now =( |
| 13:52.10 | mikma | eww, fister is there |
| 13:52.14 | Ose | Fisker- my friend... |
| 13:52.33 | jnwhiteh | I'd love to be able to instance |
| 13:52.57 | mikma | oh you will, at lvl80 ^^ |
| 13:53.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah =( |
| 13:53.11 | jnwhiteh | doing heroics |
| 13:53.15 | mikma | no-one will take you in raids unless you go do massive amount of heroics and gather all possible epics |
| 13:53.17 | jnwhiteh | for my first time through an instance |
| 13:53.23 | jnwhiteh | well fuck raids |
| 13:53.26 | jnwhiteh | i dont have time for that |
| 13:53.30 | jnwhiteh | i just LOVE 5-mans |
| 13:53.32 | jnwhiteh | and 10 mans |
| 13:53.39 | mikma | gangbangs :D |
| 13:54.10 | Fisker- | would be so nice if you'd get back on ravencrest |
| 13:54.10 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 13:54.13 | jnwhiteh | i may actually consider it |
| 13:54.15 | jnwhiteh | not RC |
| 13:54.16 | jnwhiteh | but somewhere |
| 13:54.22 | jnwhiteh | i could pay for our characters |
| 13:54.24 | jnwhiteh | but its spensive =( |
| 13:54.27 | jnwhiteh | but i could manage |
| 13:54.40 | jnwhiteh | just a matter of a.) whethe rits worth it, b.) where to go |
| 13:54.40 | Fisker- | but i want you on ravencrest :( |
| 13:54.43 | Fisker- | I need you! |
| 13:54.50 | jnwhiteh | LIES |
| 13:54.52 | jnwhiteh | you _want_ me |
| 13:54.58 | mikma | it's like so: |
| 13:55.06 | Fisker- | i want and need you :( |
| 13:55.10 | mikma | where you go, you really need to have good friends there that actually run heroics |
| 13:55.26 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 13:55.31 | jnwhiteh | i need peple that run non-heroics now |
| 13:55.37 | mikma | i've leveled 3 chars to 80 now, and 4th is lvl75 and 5th is lvl63, and i still don't run as much as i want |
| 13:56.07 | mikma | i wanted to play with my wife, but all she does is raid raid raid / enters glyphs in ah |
| 13:56.11 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 13:56.14 | Fisker- | I just wish jnwhiteh was on my server :( |
| 13:56.19 | jnwhiteh | jesus |
| 13:56.21 | jnwhiteh | £20? |
| 13:56.23 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 13:56.26 | jnwhiteh | £15 |
| 13:56.28 | jnwhiteh | 20 euro |
| 13:56.31 | jnwhiteh | that's not terrible |
| 13:56.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's so much better.... |
| 13:56.47 | jnwhiteh | i'd have to transfer at least three chars |
| 13:56.53 | jnwhiteh | 69 dk |
| 13:56.54 | jnwhiteh | 69 mage |
| 13:56.55 | jnwhiteh | 73 druid |
| 13:57.03 | mikma | imho, dump the dk and mage, level druid |
| 13:57.06 | mikma | druids are <3 |
| 13:57.13 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 13:57.15 | jnwhiteh | the druid is my main |
| 13:57.17 | mikma | also, dk's are <3 ;D |
| 13:57.22 | jnwhiteh | the other two chars are so i dont get ahead of my bf |
| 13:57.24 | Fisker- | level the DK again on RC |
| 13:57.40 | jnwhiteh | that's not gonna happen |
| 13:57.41 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 13:57.42 | jnwhiteh | i'm leaving |
| 13:57.43 | jnwhiteh | bbl |
| 13:57.47 | Fisker- | bf? |
| 13:57.48 | mikma | thathaa |
| 13:57.49 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 13:57.56 | mikma | yes fisker |
| 13:58.09 | mikma | welcome to 4 years ago |
| 13:58.18 | jnwhiteh | try 12 years ago :P |
| 13:58.32 | mikma | yeah but you came in wow-scene 4 years ago! |
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| 14:14.46 | Fisker- | btw did they disable castsequence or something like that? |
| 14:15.14 | Ose | didn'is there a random title script/addon? |
| 14:15.42 | Stanzilla | there are several |
| 14:15.47 | Ose | like? |
| 14:15.53 | Ose | what a weird typo :P |
| 14:16.10 | Stanzilla | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/titleist/ |
| 14:16.45 | Ose | thanks |
| 14:16.48 | Wobin | was that supposed to be a mix between didn't and isn't? |
| 14:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, a ton of GCD changes sort of broke some castsequences, etc.... |
| 14:20.13 | mikma | fisker-: nope |
| 14:20.49 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:20.53 | Ose | APOCALYPSE! |
| 14:20.53 | Stanzilla | my mind flay nochanneling macro is weird since 3.1, too |
| 14:20.59 | Stanzilla | sometimes just nothing happens |
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| 14:22.49 | Lopeppeppy | Some Wild Growth macros are for oddness too. Gremlins in the brownie batter. |
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| 14:33.21 | kd3 | yay for storms taking out my router |
| 14:33.23 | kd3 | sighs |
| 14:34.19 | Lopeppeppy | Owies. Temporarily offline, or fried to a crispy crisp? |
| 14:34.29 | kd3 | it let out the magic smoke |
| 14:34.37 | kd3 | had to run to target to buy a new one |
| 14:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | At least Target had new magic smoke bombs for you to buy. I have a wireless router on order from Newegg. |
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| 14:39.53 | Nuckin | Good Morning WoWUIDev |
| 14:40.33 | nicoli_s | morning |
| 14:40.34 | Trela_ | Good morning Nuckin!~ |
| 14:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi |
| 14:42.17 | Trela_ | Any one else notice WoWMatrix's AddOn list is now vastly sparse compared to before?~ |
| 14:42.30 | nicoli_s | hehe |
| 14:42.36 | Nuckin | oh oh, i must see this |
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| 14:42.55 | kd3 | oooh |
| 14:43.00 | kd3 | tabs open a new tab |
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| 14:43.14 | Nuckin | yes!, my addon is no longer on it |
| 14:43.56 | Trela_ | They do not claim the 1,800 thing any more either. :P |
| 14:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | I think they're getting cease and desists from a lot of people, which is no huge surprise to me.... |
| 14:44.57 | Trela_ | I would only consider letting them host mine if I could easily upload new versions. |
| 14:45.00 | Lopeppeppy | I'd play vanilla wow before I'd use WM, if somehow all the other sites were to die away. |
| 14:45.02 | Nuckin | honestly though, WoWMatrix is an amazing idea, just the path they took to achieve what they wanted was bad |
| 14:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ends do not justify the means. |
| 14:45.40 | Nuckin | Lopeppeppy: I wasn't justifying them |
| 14:46.14 | Nuckin | Lopeppeppy: rather I was just crediting the initial idea |
| 14:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | I won't praise them in the slightest, sadly. I don't care if they were "clever", they were jerks and they got caught. |
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| 14:46.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 14:46.50 | Nuckin | Well its the same idea behind Curse and WoWI's updaters |
| 14:47.16 | Lopeppeppy | Not really. |
| 14:47.17 | Nuckin | functionality wise |
| 14:47.33 | Lopeppeppy | Not hardly. |
| 14:47.39 | Nuckin | Lopeppeppy: yes really, all 3 update your addons for you |
| 14:47.58 | Lopeppeppy | All apples are fruit. All oranges are fruit. They are not the same. |
| 14:48.26 | mikma | stop being so fruity |
| 14:48.33 | Moleculor | WAU |
| 14:48.45 | Nuckin | Lopeppeppy: but all addon updaters are addon updaters, they just perform the same task differently |
| 14:49.14 | Lopeppeppy | They are not the same, even if they are all fruit. I will not praise WoWMatrix for being crappy rotten-to-the-core fruit. Especially when the apples are perfectly crunchy. |
| 14:49.56 | Wobin | om nomnomnom |
| 14:50.03 | Nuckin | Lopeppeppy: lol this is just prejudice |
| 14:50.37 | Wobin | predjudice towards.... what? |
| 14:50.40 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe. Why are you trying to convince me to praise something that I find to be unpraiseworthy? |
| 14:50.44 | Seerah | every persons is a human being, but not all human beings are the same, nor are all human beings the same when it comes to morals, ethics, culture, history, etc |
| 14:51.27 | Seerah | everyone knows that WM did its job well. and that it was pretty while doing it |
| 14:51.37 | Nuckin | Lopeppeppy: I understand why you hate wowmatrix and I too am glad to see it dying at the moment, but any way you look at it, its an addon updater, it was designed to simplify updating your addons, the same idea behind Curse's and WoWI's updaters |
| 14:51.38 | Wobin | Prejudice: aking a decision about, before becoming aware of the relevant facts of, a case or event. |
| 14:51.46 | Wobin | er that's "Making a decision" |
| 14:52.00 | Lopeppeppy | I think then I'm not prejudiced, Wobin. |
| 14:52.06 | Wobin | What Lope believes is -not- prejudice |
| 14:52.17 | Lopeppeppy | And that Seerah is nicer than Peppy. Redhead versus blonde, she totally wins. :) |
| 14:52.18 | Wobin | she knows precisely what has happened about the case |
| 14:52.50 | Seerah | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:53.11 | Wobin | although a more broader definition is: any unreasonable attitude that is unusually resistant to rational influence |
| 14:53.18 | Seerah | (I came in in the middle of the convo though - wowi-lounge isn't redirecting today) |
| 14:53.23 | Wobin | and tbh, that attitude isn't unreasonable =P |
| 14:53.47 | Nuckin | Wobin: congrats, I picked the wrong word when I was typing... let it go |
| 14:53.57 | Seerah | Wobin: that def. fits some of the WM supporters on the forums ;) |
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| 14:54.21 | Wobin | Seerah: well, most of them don't actually care one whit about how WM does things |
| 14:54.22 | Seerah | Nuckin: what's the issue here, anyway? I came in late and don't like to see arguments :) |
| 14:54.23 | Wobin | just that it does |
| 14:55.01 | Trela_ | WoWMatrix is still amusing in the part where it is Hypercards. |
| 14:55.11 | Wobin | Nuckin just took umbrage at Lopeppeppy saying she didn't like WM and wouldn't use it |
| 14:55.28 | Wobin | and how WM is different to CC and WoWI updater |
| 14:55.58 | Nuckin | Seerah: I praised the general idea of the goal wowmatrix was created to solve |
| 14:56.01 | Moleculor | WM really isn't different from CC or WoWI. |
| 14:56.17 | Nuckin | Moleculor: finally, i'm not alone |
| 14:56.42 | Seerah | The way that I see it, the job that it performs and how it performs that job are two different things |
| 14:56.53 | Lopeppeppy | We have a basic philosophical disagreement on that point, Seerah, hence current discussion. |
| 14:56.58 | Moleculor | It doesn't perform its job differently, either. |
| 14:57.13 | Trela_ | WoWMatrix = Curse Client = WoWInterface Updater. |
| 14:57.18 | Kraft | :O |
| 14:57.22 | Moleculor | = WowAce Updater |
| 14:57.24 | Nuckin | Seerah: right, I praise the job it does but not how it did it |
| 14:57.36 | mikma | seerah: hey, is there any instructions in wowinterface.com how to get in here (irc) ? |
| 14:57.39 | Moleculor | WoWMatrix just chooses not to limit itself, unlike CC/WoWI. |
| 14:57.47 | krka | yes, all updaters are all fundementally similar in technical operation |
| 14:57.50 | Kraft | limit? |
| 14:57.56 | krka | the difference is mostly in ethics |
| 14:57.59 | Seerah | Moleculor: and that makes it different |
| 14:58.03 | Trela_ | Which web sites it uses, Kraft. |
| 14:58.13 | Kaelten | oh great |
| 14:58.21 | Kaelten | now someone is trolling for more authors to GPL their addons |
| 14:58.25 | krka | where? |
| 14:58.29 | Wobin | They can get fucked |
| 14:58.36 | Wobin | Why should I on someone's sayso? |
| 14:58.38 | Seerah | mikma: you mean like, step one, d/l irc client, step 2, blah blah blah? |
| 14:58.45 | mikma | seerah: exactly :) |
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| 14:59.04 | Moleculor | That's hardly a difference worth noting. |
| 14:59.05 | Seerah | mikma: I don't think so..... Unless it's somewhere in the site help forums |
| 14:59.08 | Nuckin | Kaelten: who needs GPL for a scripted addon... |
| 14:59.21 | Kaelten | Nuckin: I don't like GPL personally. |
| 14:59.25 | mikma | seerah: well, anyway, right at the moment i bumbed into THIS! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=118121&postcount=4 |
| 14:59.33 | Nuckin | Kaelten: GPLv3 == fail |
| 14:59.35 | Wobin | They want all the addons gpl'd so that WoWMatrix can pick them up |
| 14:59.46 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 14:59.46 | Kaelten | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474310170&sid=1 |
| 14:59.49 | Seerah | mikma: that's what I was just going to look for :P |
| 14:59.55 | Wobin | people just need to let the damn thing die |
| 15:00.01 | Kaelten | not only that but the wording is grossly misleading |
| 15:00.07 | krka | gpl? that only applies to software though... addons are just small scripts anyone can write, not copyrighted. |
| 15:00.08 | Kaelten | and intentionally deceptive, imho |
| 15:00.27 | theorbtwo | Addons are software, and are copyright. |
| 15:00.27 | Kaelten | krka: I nearly layed into you there, before I saw who said that |
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| 15:00.46 | Seerah | ~lart krka |
| 15:00.46 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at krka |
| 15:00.51 | Kaelten | :P |
| 15:00.55 | Nuckin | wow |
| 15:00.57 | Seerah | whoa |
| 15:01.05 | Kaelten | theorbtwo: krka know's that he's being fecitious :P |
| 15:01.06 | Nuckin | purl went a little over the top lol |
| 15:01.18 | Kaelten | damn purl |
| 15:01.19 | theorbtwo | Ah. |
| 15:01.21 | kd3 | wow... that's one hell of a lart |
| 15:01.24 | krka | aww |
| 15:01.28 | Trela_ | ~lart krka |
| 15:01.28 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on krka and turns krka into a brick |
| 15:01.28 | Moleculor | WTF does 'lart' mean, anyhow? |
| 15:01.30 | krka | my name shouldn't be relevant |
| 15:01.33 | Nuckin | that made my day right htere |
| 15:01.38 | kd3 | ~dict lart |
| 15:01.44 | kd3 | ^ |
| 15:01.46 | Moleculor | Oooh. |
| 15:01.47 | Moleculor | K. |
| 15:01.47 | Trela_ | Ah. |
| 15:01.51 | Seerah | http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=lart&gwp=13 |
| 15:01.57 | Nuckin | ~lart Moleculor |
| 15:01.57 | purl | chops Moleculor in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 15:01.59 | mikma | seerah: do admins (example, you) have the right to change usernames in wowinterface? |
| 15:02.04 | Nuckin | ahahahaha |
| 15:02.07 | Moleculor | Yay, Solaris! |
| 15:02.16 | Seerah | mikma: admins yes, moderators (me) no |
| 15:02.21 | Wobin | wtf? |
| 15:02.22 | Wobin | *The characters on this account are unavailable, as the account has expired or is prohibited from posting. |
| 15:02.31 | mikma | okidoki, thanks zebra! |
| 15:02.31 | Nuckin | Moleculor: that's a pretty awesome way to die imo lol |
| 15:02.35 | krka | even if addons were copyrighted, you sign away all your rights when you upload it as an addon, blizzard says they must be free |
| 15:02.36 | Moleculor | Agreed. |
| 15:02.37 | Wobin | I haven't posted in days, nor have I had any warning of post blocking |
| 15:02.48 | kd3 | wobin; is it pay day for your account? |
| 15:03.03 | krka | also, i think you should be forced to upload updates and new features atleast once every day, the users deserve nothing less |
| 15:03.13 | Wobin | kd3: I don't -think- so |
| 15:03.15 | Seerah | Wobin: account renewal day is iffy on forums |
| 15:03.23 | Wobin | hm, I'll check |
| 15:04.05 | krka | seems my trolling powers have faded out |
| 15:04.07 | krka | :( |
| 15:04.41 | Wobin | payday was on the 19th |
| 15:04.43 | Wobin | so last week |
| 15:05.00 | Taladris | kd3: Are you still on Medivh? |
| 15:05.07 | krka | on sweden we get paid on the 25th |
| 15:05.12 | Moleculor | You've been hacked and started spewing casino spam, Wobin. :P |
| 15:05.13 | krka | maybe it's a timezone thing |
| 15:05.30 | Moleculor | Actually, no, you've been hacked and started advertising for WoWmatrix! :D |
| 15:05.45 | Wobin | krka: two days worth of timezones? |
| 15:05.57 | krka | like 6 days atleast |
| 15:06.11 | Wobin | That's some pretty terrible timezone coding |
| 15:06.12 | Seerah | Wobin: 19th wasn't last week, it was yesterday |
| 15:06.20 | Wobin | =( |
| 15:06.24 | kd3 | Taladris, ya |
| 15:06.24 | Wobin | it's the 21st damnit |
| 15:06.26 | krka | yesterday was last week |
| 15:06.32 | mikma | ^-- |
| 15:06.36 | krka | my weeks start on monday atleast |
| 15:06.41 | mikma | ^-- :D |
| 15:07.02 | Seerah | psh - Sunday for me :P |
| 15:07.11 | krka | nooo, sunday is the glorious ending |
| 15:07.20 | Fisker- | oh |
| 15:07.22 | Fisker- | almost forgot |
| 15:07.26 | krka | all weeks start like crap and end with awesome sunday |
| 15:07.27 | Seerah | I work Tues-Sat |
| 15:07.28 | Fisker- | gotta renew my wow subscription |
| 15:07.31 | Fisker- | it runs out tomorrow :O |
| 15:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | Thinking about not renewing... |
| 15:07.48 | Fisker- | nah |
| 15:07.58 | Fisker- | It got suspended because Blizzard are raging homosexuals |
| 15:08.04 | Wobin | pft |
| 15:08.09 | mikma | krka: sunday ain't awesome! it tells you next day is monday |
| 15:08.14 | Wobin | I want to post on that thread but I cannot |
| 15:08.35 | krka | /target Lopeppeppy /cast renew |
| 15:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thanks krka. |
| 15:08.48 | Wobin | "I like to protect -my- rights, with an "All Rights Reserved" licence. It does everything you say, and makes it so that I can say what gets done with it." |
| 15:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin, bribe someone else in the lounge to post for you then. :) |
| 15:09.12 | Wobin | Can someone? =) |
| 15:09.16 | Seerah | link? |
| 15:09.18 | Wobin | You can even post it in your name =P |
| 15:09.30 | mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474310170&sid=1 |
| 15:09.31 | Wobin | I don't care, as long as the misinformation is pointed out =P |
| 15:09.37 | mikma | this one, wobbly? |
| 15:09.45 | Seerah | getting it |
| 15:09.55 | Wobin | yeh |
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| 15:10.13 | mikma | lopeppeppy: "great, thanks" xD |
| 15:10.16 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 15:10.20 | mikma | <insert coffee cup> |
| 15:10.33 | Seerah | done |
| 15:10.45 | Shirik | ok |
| 15:10.49 | Shirik | Panera is so much better in the morning |
| 15:10.51 | Wobin | <3 Seerah |
| 15:10.53 | Shirik | the bread is a lot fresher |
| 15:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, there's no "that would be" in the quote, is that what you're saying? |
| 15:11.02 | mikma | i'm gonna protect my code with http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ |
| 15:11.17 | Wobin | I like wtfpl |
| 15:11.28 | mikma | lopeppeppy: i just enjoy the movie |
| 15:11.35 | Moleculor | I has Braid's music on loop. I love Braid. |
| 15:11.41 | Lopeppeppy | What is Braid? |
| 15:11.48 | Shirik | mikma: Believe it or not, that's very dangerous |
| 15:11.48 | Wobin | Braid is so shiny |
| 15:11.51 | krka | i use the lolcat license |
| 15:11.53 | krka | it's awesome |
| 15:11.54 | Shirik | for non-obvious reasons |
| 15:11.59 | Fisker- | There |
| 15:12.01 | krka | Lopeppeppy: it's an awesome game |
| 15:12.02 | Shirik | no disclaimer of warranty :) |
| 15:12.04 | Fisker- | 6 months more of corn patrol |
| 15:12.04 | Wobin | Shirik: I like it for the name =) |
| 15:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | pounces on Shirik. Boooooom! |
| 15:12.07 | krka | that messes with your head |
| 15:12.08 | mikma | shirik: like, anyone can do whatever they want with the code? |
| 15:12.20 | krka | the story more than the puzzles, really |
| 15:12.29 | Trela_ | reads the WoWMatrix FAQ. |
| 15:12.33 | Moleculor | Lopeppeppy: Braid is as Portal as Time is as Space. |
| 15:12.43 | Wobin | (is to?) |
| 15:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. |
| 15:12.49 | mikma | shirik: or, because it has word "fuck" in, it will be declined when uploading to wowi? |
| 15:12.51 | Moleculor | Is to, yes. |
| 15:12.52 | Shirik | mikma: No, like if your software breaks someone's computer, you might be held accoutnable |
| 15:12.55 | krka | that's a good description Moleculor |
| 15:13.01 | Trela_ | A reformed WoWMatrix... So curious to see if they die under bandwidth cost. |
| 15:13.13 | krka | you know what would be funny? |
| 15:13.16 | Wobin | I want Zorba to put questhelper there to help them out =P |
| 15:13.25 | mikma | shirik: well my addons are currently licenseless because i don't give a rats ass :D and addon's can't break computers, people break computers haha |
| 15:13.26 | krka | if someone made a free updater that pulled stuff from the wowmatrix servers |
| 15:13.31 | krka | without their ads |
| 15:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | That would be a riot, krka |
| 15:13.51 | krka | it would be awesome on a stick |
| 15:13.59 | Shirik | krka: My updater could theoretically do that |
| 15:14.00 | Shirik | >.> |
| 15:14.05 | krka | do it! |
| 15:14.11 | krka | see how they respond |
| 15:14.17 | Shirik | I won't do it, but anyone could write a module for it |
| 15:14.20 | krka | "wait... that's _our_ business model!" |
| 15:14.24 | Shirik | the API will be released |
| 15:14.25 | *** join/#wowuidev theorbtwo (n=theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 15:14.31 | Shirik | you know Java |
| 15:14.33 | Moleculor | Don't do it, since if anything ever goes to court, you want to be smelling like roses. |
| 15:14.42 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 15:14.46 | Trela_ | would totally do it. |
| 15:14.47 | mikma | we need a WoW AddOn Copyright! like WAC, "Copyright is mine, credit me if you use my code or I will eat your head." |
| 15:14.50 | Shirik | Moleculor: I was only pointing out the possibility :) |
| 15:14.53 | nicoli_s | i can pretty much guarantee you wm is taking no one to court |
| 15:15.12 | Shirik | I can't stop people from writing modules |
| 15:15.12 | krka | pot kettle #000 |
| 15:15.38 | Wobin | I'm glad they removed all the inaccessible addons from their list |
| 15:15.42 | Moleculor | nicoli_s: And if I want to send a DMCA notice to WowMatrix's ISP to force 'em to take down my addons? I have to be willing to take -them- to court. |
| 15:16.03 | mikma | wobin: http://www.sgclub.com/singapore/90s_eurodance_youtube_103023.html |
| 15:16.20 | Kraft | is it possible to add a licence that just says 'if i upload this to wowi, i onyl want it to be available on wowi'? |
| 15:16.25 | Wobin | why does that url fill me with fear? |
| 15:16.27 | Kraft | only* |
| 15:16.28 | nicoli_s | oh well thats what i meant, if anything, itll be people taking wmo to court |
| 15:16.46 | mikma | wobin: cause you are a pussy |
| 15:17.02 | Wobin | *mew* |
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| 15:17.06 | Moleculor | Yes. And if people take WM to court, people want to smell like roses, not give WM ammo like "THey were doing it too!" |
| 15:17.15 | nicoli_s | true, true |
| 15:17.23 | Shirik | btw, since I missed it |
| 15:17.26 | Shirik | pounces Lopeppeppy back |
| 15:17.28 | krka | should be enough to do "only i the author may decide where to host this addon" |
| 15:17.32 | Trela_ | Kraft, basically a standard All Rights Reserved is that. You give WoWInterface permission to host your AddOn since you decided to upload there. Any other sites still need to get your permission. |
| 15:17.34 | Moleculor | Kraft: Simply type that out, I believe it's legal. |
| 15:17.55 | Wobin | also, no specific licence falls back to ARR |
| 15:18.04 | Kraft | thanks^^ |
| 15:18.09 | Trela_ | ARRR! |
| 15:18.12 | Trela_ | As in pirate? |
| 15:18.14 | Moleculor | http://www.sgclub.com/avatars/plutoainaplanet.gif?dateline=1233508480 <-- Roflcopter. |
| 15:18.14 | krka | ARRRRRRR |
| 15:18.20 | Wobin | we don't want addon piracy! |
| 15:18.20 | Fisker- | YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 15:18.23 | Moleculor | ARRRR! |
| 15:18.47 | Wobin | All Rights Really Rationally Reserved Right? |
| 15:18.48 | Moleculor | May the Flying Spahgetti Monster's noodly appendages caress you! |
| 15:19.03 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr |
| 15:19.12 | Shirik | Kraft: Many people use an All Rights Reserved license, however take note that when you upload an item to wowi, you specifically permit wowi to redistribute accordingly |
| 15:19.17 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar7H5XEDa4g ecuadoooooooooooor! |
| 15:19.20 | Shirik | I'm sure Curse has a similar point |
| 15:19.32 | Wobin | hehehe SASH! |
| 15:19.34 | Wobin | I loved this song |
| 15:19.37 | Kraft | i do? :S redistribute in what way? |
| 15:20.00 | Trela_ | Through their web site and updates, typically. |
| 15:20.01 | krka | so in theory wowi could partner up with wm to distribute |
| 15:20.33 | Shirik | Kraft: I'm looking for the term right now |
| 15:20.38 | Kraft | ty |
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| 15:20.38 | Shirik | it's nothing outside of what you should have expected |
| 15:20.50 | Shirik | would you want to upload to wowi and have it just sit on our server, being unable to give it to anyone else? |
| 15:21.02 | Shirik | (p.s. if your answer is yes... well we don't want it :P) |
| 15:21.12 | Kraft | :o |
| 15:21.19 | Seerah | you broke him |
| 15:21.22 | mikma | wobin: these first cd's from scooter are quite cool too |
| 15:21.26 | Kraft | sorry :( |
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| 15:21.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 15:21.35 | Shirik | ... stupid touchpad |
| 15:21.45 | krka | ... and THAT's how i feel about Shirik |
| 15:21.48 | Trela_ | Failpad. |
| 15:21.52 | Seerah | http://www.mmoui.com/tos.php |
| 15:21.56 | mikma | krka: well put, i liked it |
| 15:22.08 | krka | don't think it was too harsh? |
| 15:22.18 | mikma | imho, he deserves it |
| 15:22.34 | Moleculor | No, you guys were really mean. |
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| 15:23.29 | Seerah | you lost me |
| 15:23.34 | Kraft | shirik: well ideally i just want wowi to be able to do what they want with it, but not WM to be abel to do whatever they want with it |
| 15:23.41 | Kraft | able* |
| 15:24.31 | Shirik | well I can't find it, Kraft |
| 15:24.37 | Shirik | but that's basically what it says |
| 15:24.41 | Kraft | ok cool |
| 15:24.49 | Shirik | you grant wowi a non-propagating license to redistribute the files |
| 15:24.50 | Seerah | (10:21:52 AM) Seerah: http://www.mmoui.com/tos.php |
| 15:25.06 | Shirik | yes Seerah |
| 15:25.13 | Shirik | would you like to specify the term? Because I can't find it |
| 15:25.31 | Seerah | I didn't actually read though it :) |
| 15:25.50 | Shirik | so even if you say "All rights reserved," Kraft, as soon as you upload to wowi you've given wowi a license to redistribute (but only wowi a license) |
| 15:26.22 | Kraft | perfect, cheers |
| 15:26.41 | Kraft | now i just have to make an addon worth being bothered about |
| 15:27.13 | Shirik | ha |
| 15:27.28 | Seerah | oh - "4. Use of the Services by you .... "ou agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the Services by any means other than through the interface that is provided by ZAM. You specifically agree not to access (or attempt to access) any of the Services through any automated means (including use of scripts or web crawlers). You agree that you will not engage in any activity that interferes with or disrupts the Services (or the ser |
| 15:27.34 | Seerah | did that get cut off? |
| 15:27.40 | Seerah | basically says no WM |
| 15:27.40 | mikma | the Services (or the ser |
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| 15:27.56 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:28.02 | Seerah | the Services (or the servers and networks which are connected to the Services). Unless you have been specifically permitted to do so in a separate agreement with ZAM, you agree that you will not reproduce duplicate, copy, sell, trade or resell the Services for any purpose." |
| 15:28.03 | Wobin | but then again, you don't need to join ZAM |
| 15:28.07 | Wobin | to use WM |
| 15:28.14 | krka | making an addon worth being bothered about is the hard part :( |
| 15:28.28 | Shirik | you don't need to join Zam to agree to those conditions, either, Wobin :) |
| 15:28.35 | Shirik | But IANAL |
| 15:28.43 | Seerah | Wobin: those are the terms for wowi |
| 15:28.47 | Shirik | Personally I would debate that the creators of WM are in violation of those terms |
| 15:28.49 | Seerah | but, you're right |
| 15:29.18 | Wobin | I guess, that the creators of WM would be bound by that |
| 15:29.25 | krka | well, look at the piratebay verdict |
| 15:29.36 | kd3 | which means nothing outside of sweden |
| 15:29.39 | krka | WM would be as guilty as the piratebay hosting |
| 15:29.47 | Wobin | since they'd need to 'access' the service before being able to write an addon to scrape it |
| 15:29.53 | krka | true, but swedish law isn't all that different from american in some senses |
| 15:29.55 | Wobin | er, application |
| 15:29.57 | mikma | piratebay verdict... it's cool how you can sentence people that haven't done anything illegal |
| 15:30.07 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:30.09 | Shirik | mikma: Welcome to the US |
| 15:30.11 | kd3 | I'm looking forward to them going after google |
| 15:30.14 | Shirik | where you can sue someone for making hot coffee |
| 15:30.15 | Seerah | 12. Miscellaneous No Third Party Beneficiary. You agree that there shall be no third-party beneficiaries to this agreement. |
| 15:30.24 | mikma | shirik: *cough* we aren't in the US ;) |
| 15:30.31 | mikma | neither is PB <3 |
| 15:30.35 | krka | kd3: they're not going to - they claim that google have been cooperative |
| 15:30.41 | krka | also, they're not _that_ stupid |
| 15:30.48 | Adys | mm.. |
| 15:30.51 | Shirik | too bad, Mikk |
| 15:30.52 | Shirik | mikma: * |
| 15:30.57 | Fisker- | krka not nessecarily |
| 15:30.59 | Shirik | Choice of Law and Forum. The Terms and the relationship between you and ZAM shall be governed by the laws of the State of California without regard to its conflict of law provisions. You and ZAM agree to submit to the personal and exclusive jurisdiction of the courts located within the county of Los Angeles, California. |
| 15:31.02 | mikma | too GOOD |
| 15:31.03 | Mikk | smax Shirik |
| 15:31.18 | Fisker- | At the moment Google doesn't take down torrent links as they're not actually copyright violations |
| 15:31.20 | Seerah | sorry, Shirik and Kraft - I don't see it in there either. But I know it's somewhere. Cairenn would know |
| 15:31.30 | Fisker- | That could be interpretted as not being coorporative |
| 15:31.30 | Kaelten | I got a voodoo doll! |
| 15:31.31 | Kaelten | woot |
| 15:31.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (n=Jamash@75.25.130.215) |
| 15:31.37 | Shirik | a what? |
| 15:31.41 | Kaelten | Let me just pull up my list of addons on the super shiny awesome Curse Client. |
| 15:31.41 | Kaelten | Speaking of which, I gift Kaelten with a set of voodoo dolls in the image of the WoWMatrix crew. |
| 15:31.46 | Kaelten | :D |
| 15:31.51 | kd3 | lol |
| 15:32.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, spiffy! |
| 15:32.04 | Seerah | hehe |
| 15:32.10 | Fisker- | Not to mention that ISP's can get blackmailed to disable users internet out of fear of being sued |
| 15:32.12 | mikma | mikk: you are good targetdummy, really. thanks for taking all the bullets :) |
| 15:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | You can use my quilting pins if you need them. |
| 15:32.31 | Kaelten | runs off to find a bucket |
| 15:32.39 | Trela_ | Kaelten, I really wonder if WoWMatrix is only run by that Richard Goldman person. |
| 15:32.46 | Kraft | does that mean if zam takes me to court i have to fly to california? :D |
| 15:32.49 | kd3 | hm... onebag/bank got updated |
| 15:32.50 | Kaelten | could be, who knows |
| 15:32.55 | Kaelten | I think there was at least 2 people involved |
| 15:33.00 | Kaelten | kd3: yep, a bunch, plus ring is out |
| 15:33.04 | kd3 | yay |
| 15:36.29 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PyV5eefNXU |
| 15:36.39 | mikma | propably the most mixed song, evah |
| 15:36.56 | Fisker- | GENTLEMEN |
| 15:37.03 | Jamash | BEHOLD! |
| 15:37.09 | mikma | start your engines? |
| 15:37.10 | Lopeppeppy | Where are gentlemen? I'm in the market |
| 15:37.36 | Fisker- | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/33/Gentlemen.jpg |
| 15:37.41 | Wobin | mikma: Or Fable |
| 15:37.45 | Wobin | by the same composer |
| 15:38.08 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=129162#post129162 |
| 15:38.51 | mikma | wobin: tell a fableeeeee-e-eeeee |
| 15:39.07 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 15:39.34 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22561 |
| 15:40.13 | Fisker- | YOU Ackis |
| 15:40.40 | Wobin | Seerah: I think they've removed my mods... lemme check |
| 15:40.56 | Seerah | don't have to let *me* know ;) just them :) |
| 15:41.14 | Wobin | oh.. hm they haven't =P |
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| 15:41.38 | Wobin | although, maybe I uploaded to them ages ago |
| 15:42.04 | Wobin | hehe Updated 11/12/2006 (861 days ago) |
| 15:42.42 | AckisWork | ckknight, Cairenn|afk, other important people: are there any threads/etc where you can post all rights reserved mods that WM has to get them removed? |
| 15:43.12 | Fisker- | Do you adress me? |
| 15:43.20 | Fisker- | address* |
| 15:43.44 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I think you have to send WM one of the cease and desist letters yourself. |
| 15:43.49 | Wobin | although... |
| 15:43.50 | Wobin | 14,512 total downloads / downloads this week: 3,866 / downloads today: 6 |
| 15:43.54 | Wobin | that seems a little suspect |
| 15:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | They're not cooperative like Lothaer is. :) |
| 15:44.24 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I'm going through their list and all of mine are removed, however there are some on there that I still know are all right's reserved |
| 15:44.50 | Fisker- | just fake it |
| 15:44.52 | Fisker- | it's the rage these days |
| 15:45.25 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, let the authors of those addons know, and let them take care of it themselves. Can't police the whole world on your own, dear. |
| 15:45.40 | Moleculor | I shall police the whole world on my own! WITH MY TIME MACHINE! |
| 15:45.42 | ckknight | AckisWork: *shrug* |
| 15:46.13 | ckknight | users are lame, like srsly |
| 15:46.14 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/polls/wow-matrix-is-now-dead-what-do-you-do/?results |
| 15:46.20 | Fisker- | MPAA, RIAA, Etc. seems to be doing a good job at it Lopeppeppy :3 |
| 15:46.20 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: oh but I can!! and where I'm going... I don't need ROADS!!! ahahaha |
| 15:46.23 | ckknight | crying about wowmatrix |
| 15:47.07 | DWSR | ckknight: Indeed. |
| 15:47.15 | DWSR | ckknight: The admin is god. Deal with it. :D |
| 15:47.18 | Zhinjio | g'morning. |
| 15:47.20 | nicoli_s | yer on vacation this week right ckknight? |
| 15:47.27 | ckknight | nicoli_s: not actually vacation |
| 15:47.35 | ckknight | just working out of the office |
| 15:47.35 | Wobin | "well I guess time for me to look for new addons that work with WoWmatrix and ditch curse ones =( it just takes to much time to update without it" |
| 15:47.41 | Wobin | good luck with that, luv |
| 15:47.48 | Lopeppeppy | Hah. |
| 15:47.56 | DWSR | Does anyone know of a computer case that holds 2 microATX boards? |
| 15:47.58 | AckisWork | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=129174&postcount=9 |
| 15:48.09 | AckisWork | ckknight: pants on or off? |
| 15:48.24 | ckknight | on, because people are around |
| 15:48.30 | AckisWork | ~comfort ckknight |
| 15:48.31 | purl | There, there, ckknight. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 15:49.16 | ckknight | nicoli_s: I also got a haircut. It's all short now |
| 15:49.17 | DWSR | Does anyone know of a computer case that holds 2 microATX boards?? |
| 15:49.58 | Fisker- | your mom |
| 15:50.00 | Fisker- | swish! |
| 15:50.09 | Nuckin | DWSR: you get the beta? |
| 15:50.10 | DWSR | ~lart Fisker- |
| 15:50.10 | purl | teaches Fisker- the basics, including how to RTM |
| 15:50.22 | DWSR | let me check. |
| 15:50.33 | DWSR | I currently don't have a hud addon, but I'll test one just for you. :P |
| 15:50.33 | haste | I need a new coding spot to idle at! |
| 15:50.39 | haste | /r/ suggestions |
| 15:50.43 | Trela_ | ~lart DWSR |
| 15:50.43 | purl | stamps DWSR on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 15:50.44 | Fisker- | hey haste |
| 15:50.44 | nicoli_s | @ckknight damn all you short hairs, trying to run me out of the office |
| 15:50.46 | haste | something like the aldor lift in TBC would be nice! |
| 15:50.49 | Fisker- | /b/ |
| 15:50.53 | Fisker- | it's the place |
| 15:50.59 | Nuckin | DWSR: all but two of my beta testers are MIA for some reason |
| 15:50.59 | haste | can't code there! |
| 15:51.05 | ckknight | nicoli_s: gf said it was too long, so we went to a stylist |
| 15:51.12 | Fisker- | or if you're still on ravencrest stand someplace where you are pvp tagged |
| 15:51.22 | haste | no, I play on Grim Batol as horde again |
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| 15:51.33 | Fisker- | then i hate you |
| 15:51.43 | haste | I hate you^inf ! |
| 15:51.47 | nicoli_s | thats when you say: "was jesus's hair too long?" |
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| 15:51.53 | DWSR | ~Fisker-++ |
| 15:51.58 | Fisker- | stop it |
| 15:51.58 | Jamash | nicoli_s: YES |
| 15:52.04 | DWSR | :D |
| 15:52.05 | Stanzilla | ckknight: pix! |
| 15:52.11 | ckknight | nah |
| 15:52.25 | DWSR | Nuckin: Any way to get WoWI to send me a message on receiving a new PM? |
| 15:52.39 | nicoli_s | lies! hair is never too long till you accidentally poop in it |
| 15:52.41 | DWSR | I figured it would be on by default, but apparently WoWI's a decent site that doesn't spam your inbox. :) |
| 15:52.49 | Fisker- | ~karma Fisker- |
| 15:52.49 | purl | fisker- has karma of -5 |
| 15:52.52 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 15:52.53 | Fisker- | i hope you die |
| 15:53.01 | DWSR | ~Fisker-++ |
| 15:53.05 | DWSR | Here, have some more. |
| 15:53.15 | AckisWork | ~karma Fisker- |
| 15:53.15 | purl | fisker- has karma of -4 |
| 15:53.33 | AckisWork | wow Fisker- why so close to positve karma? |
| 15:53.46 | DWSR | Nuckin: Stage2? |
| 15:53.57 | DWSR | Nuckin: or stage2b? |
| 15:54.04 | Fisker- | why can you keep giving me positive karma? ;_; |
| 15:54.16 | DWSR | Fisker-: Because I have elite purl hax. |
| 15:55.22 | nicoli_s | dwsr, we are working on fixing curse's email problems, if that was in fact a dig at us :P |
| 15:55.37 | DWSR | nicoli_s: It wasn't. |
| 15:55.52 | AckisWork | nicoli_s: so people will get e-mails!?!?!?! zomg!!!! |
| 15:56.05 | DWSR | nicoli_s: I'm under the assumption that all the spam from Curse was just an anomaly. I bitbucketed curse.com e-mails. |
| 15:57.06 | DWSR | Nuckin: What specifically do you want tested? Or do you just want me to try and break it |
| 15:59.55 | ckknight | Fisker-: how do I shot web? |
| 16:00.17 | Wobin | ckknight: how is babby formed? |
| 16:00.28 | ckknight | they need to do way instain mother |
| 16:00.33 | kobh | Hello |
| 16:00.55 | Seerah | :( http://www.yahoo.com/s/1060454 |
| 16:01.00 | kobh | will this work: color="0.5, 0.5, 0.5" MyFontString:SetText(color) |
| 16:01.01 | kobh | ? |
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| 16:01.16 | ckknight | that's too bad, Seerah |
| 16:01.17 | Wobin | Seerah: oh dear =( |
| 16:01.21 | ckknight | he's had a good run, though |
| 16:01.22 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:01.25 | ckknight | kobh: sure will |
| 16:01.25 | Nuckin | DWSR: try to break it, i need general feedback aswell |
| 16:01.27 | Lunessa | What's too bad? |
| 16:01.32 | Seerah | kobh: no, because it would be a string instead of 3 numbers |
| 16:01.41 | ckknight | Lunessa: http://www.yahoo.com/s/1060454 |
| 16:01.51 | kobh | confused :| |
| 16:01.56 | DWSR | Nuckin: Okies. *throws it in with his 220 other addons* |
| 16:02.04 | Seerah | ckknight: how? it's a string |
| 16:02.15 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:02.16 | Nuckin | DWSR: Stage2b |
| 16:02.17 | ckknight | Seerah: he's just doing :SetText |
| 16:02.17 | Seerah | because they're all numbers? |
| 16:02.30 | DWSR | Nuckin: Yeah, did a compare on the archives. :P |
| 16:02.37 | Seerah | I read as SetTextColor |
| 16:02.39 | Seerah | sighs |
| 16:02.47 | Lunessa | morning peppy-dear. |
| 16:02.47 | Nuckin | DWSR: it is moslty self contained, so other addons should have little effect on it |
| 16:02.53 | Seerah | kobh: if you meant just SetText, yes. If you meant SetTextColor, no |
| 16:03.21 | DWSR | Nuckin: Funny. People always say that. |
| 16:03.30 | DWSR | Nuckin: 220 addons later, I can tell you that's never the case. |
| 16:04.13 | Nuckin | DWSR: one of my beta testers is an addon addict, I'm fairly confident lol |
| 16:04.25 | Lunessa | So many authors make little mistakes - a global where they meant to use a local, improper hooks... |
| 16:04.34 | DWSR | ^ |
| 16:04.41 | DWSR | Altoholic didn't play nice with my UI |
| 16:04.46 | DWSR | I finally just disabled it. |
| 16:05.06 | Lunessa | Speaking of which - Seerah, with PocketPlot installed, I can't use "Esc" to close the game Calendar. :( |
| 16:05.17 | Seerah | No?.... |
| 16:05.31 | Seerah | it shouldn't effect that at all. did you try with only PP enabled? |
| 16:05.45 | Lunessa | I noticed it just before work this morning, so I didn't have time to fully troubleshoot. :( |
| 16:05.54 | Seerah | kk |
| 16:05.57 | kobh | Seerah |
| 16:05.58 | Nuckin | Lunessa: lol my addon isn't big enough, and has very few real globals |
| 16:06.02 | kobh | i meant SetTextColor, but |
| 16:06.14 | kobh | i am trying to use the colorpickerframe |
| 16:06.21 | kobh | which returns the three colors |
| 16:06.36 | Seerah | put them into a table or three separate variables. not into a string |
| 16:06.44 | kobh | oh, table, thats smart |
| 16:06.45 | kobh | thanks |
| 16:07.11 | Lunessa | As a general rule, avoid using globals when a local will do, and if you MUST use a global for something, make sure the variable name is highly unlikely to be used by anyone else. |
| 16:07.37 | Nuckin | Lunessa: i know, hence why very few |
| 16:07.52 | Wobin | Or use effective namespaces |
| 16:08.04 | Seerah | kobh: color = {.5, .5, .5} SetTextColor(color[1], color[2], color[3]) (or maybe SetTextColor(unpack(color)) - forget how that works) --orrr-- r,g,b = .5, .5, .5 SetTextColor(r,g,b) |
| 16:08.06 | AckisWork | feels like puking. :( |
| 16:08.19 | Wobin | go home? |
| 16:09.43 | AckisWork | can't |
| 16:09.43 | Moleculor | Puke? |
| 16:09.43 | Wobin | well if you puke, won't they let you? |
| 16:09.43 | Moleculor | Puke, sometimes it makes you feel better. |
| 16:09.48 | AckisWork | they'd let me but I have a lot of shit to get done today |
| 16:10.39 | haste | hey AckisWork |
| 16:11.10 | AckisWork | hey haste |
| 16:11.15 | haste | If you clench your left hand into a fist, with your thumb inside of the fist, you can stick your finger down your throat and you won't have a gag reflex! |
| 16:11.38 | AckisWork | ... |
| 16:11.39 | Wobin | ... |
| 16:11.44 | haste | :D |
| 16:11.45 | Wobin | things I never wanted to know =P |
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| 16:12.24 | Moleculor | .... things that are useful to know for certain activities. |
| 16:12.50 | Jamash | brain easter eggs |
| 16:13.01 | Moleculor | ... I'm stealing that, Jamash. |
| 16:13.06 | Jamash | feel free |
| 16:13.19 | Lopeppeppy | ... *giggle* |
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| 16:13.53 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:13.56 | Shirik | I hate the government |
| 16:14.00 | Shirik | who here knows how to fill out a W9? |
| 16:14.22 | Shirik | what is "backup withholding"? |
| 16:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | Contract work? |
| 16:14.26 | Moleculor | I'm lucky in that I know a large population of people who'd be willing to test that left-hand thing. |
| 16:14.43 | Kraft | :S |
| 16:15.07 | Zhinjio | Shirik: any monies above and beyond the calculated withholding based on your dependents you're claiming |
| 16:15.08 | Kraft | you know a lot of people that find the gag reflex a problem in day to day life? |
| 16:15.14 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, http://www.wwwebtax.com/general/form_w9.htm |
| 16:15.19 | Wobin | brain easter eggs? |
| 16:15.22 | Zhinjio | you use this if you expect there to be untaxed income that you will have to "overpay" for. |
| 16:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | http://taxes.about.com/od/taxglossary/g/backup_withhold.htm |
| 16:15.44 | Moleculor | Kraft: Yes. Lets just say that they enjoy some forms of rough sex. And that's putting it mildly. |
| 16:15.49 | Zhinjio | ah, I defer to the expert advice you're now getting |
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| 16:16.05 | Kraft | afaik the gag relfex is fairly easy to overcoem with some basic practise |
| 16:16.25 | Kraft | (thats not from personal experience) |
| 16:16.34 | Lopeppeppy | *ahem* |
| 16:16.47 | Kraft | realises what he said and hides |
| 16:16.52 | Lopeppeppy | There is a medical condition whereby one's gag reflex is overactive, causing issues with eating food and so forth. |
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| 16:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | I saw it rather frequently when I worked with physically handicapped adults and children. |
| 16:18.45 | Moleculor | There are always a few people who have a hard time controlling it. I'll throw this tip to the 'wolves' so to speak, and anyone who can't figure out how to suppress it other ways can test out the left hand thing. |
| 16:18.52 | Moleculor | Also, now the back of my throat feels WEIRD. |
| 16:18.58 | Shirik | ok so now 50% of the sources say I am exempt, and 50% of them say I'm not |
| 16:19.11 | Shirik | taxes suck |
| 16:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, when in doubt, get your hiney to H&R Block or a certified tax accountant. |
| 16:19.30 | Shirik | whatever happened to "we'll make the forms simple enough so that even ESL people can do them" |
| 16:19.34 | Lopeppeppy | Not with holding enough can lead to SERIOUS penalties. |
| 16:20.29 | Shirik | oh well |
| 16:20.31 | Shirik | I'll be back later |
| 16:20.54 | Moleculor | And then we NEVER SEE SHIRIK AGAIN! |
| 16:20.54 | cncfanatics | hello folks |
| 16:21.05 | cncfanatics | :o, Is Shirik gone ?!? PARTY ! |
| 16:21.39 | Jamash | I said "hi folks" in guild chat and was told there were no folks in the guild :X |
| 16:22.33 | Lunessa | The villain for today's calendar page is my favorite in all of WoW - Rhahk'Zor! - 'VanCleef pay big for your heads!' |
| 16:23.18 | Jamash | roxor! |
| 16:24.47 | Legorol | Is there a feral druid around who is very good at theorycrafting and is intimately familiar with the various % sta bonuses from talents? |
| 16:24.51 | Legorol | I have the following problem: |
| 16:25.06 | Legorol | a friend of mine who is a druid is seeing stamina numbers that we can't explain, the math is not adding up |
| 16:25.14 | Legorol | so my questions are: |
| 16:25.25 | Legorol | 1) is dire bear form and heart of the wild additive, or multiplicative? |
| 16:25.34 | Legorol | 2) what about survival of the fittest? |
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| 16:25.41 | Moleculor | Subtractive! (I don't actually know, sorry.) |
| 16:25.42 | Mikk | i could test i guess |
| 16:25.45 | Mikk | but so could he |
| 16:25.58 | Mikk | just spec without them, take readings, take 1 talent point, take new readings, etc |
| 16:26.00 | Legorol | 3) how is it possible that in bear tanking spec, with his tanking gear on, his stamina only goes up by approx. 25% when switching from caster to bear form? |
| 16:26.07 | Legorol | Mikk: he is not good with theorycrafting |
| 16:26.12 | Mikk | but you are =) |
| 16:26.20 | Legorol | it was hard enough for me to get him to read sta numbers to me in various forms |
| 16:26.23 | Mikk | ow |
| 16:26.41 | Legorol | he has heart of the wild and survival of the fittest fully specced |
| 16:26.47 | Legorol | and i can't explain his stamina numbers |
| 16:27.23 | Legorol | the strange thing was: when he took off all his gear, going from caster to bear raised his stamina by about 38% |
| 16:27.29 | Mikk | well HotW and SotF affect him out of forms as well i think |
| 16:27.32 | Moleculor | Well they did nerf bear stam, maybe the patch notes can explain what it was? |
| 16:27.43 | Legorol | which is consistent with what i'd expect if all three effects (bear form, hotw and survival) are multiplicative |
| 16:27.49 | Mikk | so going caster->bear would give him ~25% more stamina |
| 16:27.54 | Legorol | Moleculor: wowhead now shows the changed numbers |
| 16:28.04 | Legorol | no mikk, hotw only works in bear |
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| 16:28.17 | Legorol | whereas sotw should work in all forms |
| 16:28.26 | Mikk | oops, my bad |
| 16:28.35 | Legorol | so i expect 1.25*1.1 = 1.375 increase going caster to bear |
| 16:28.43 | Legorol | and that's on the *stamina* not on the Hp |
| 16:29.10 | Legorol | basically the whole discussion started like this: with 3.1, his unbuffed Hp went from 41k to 36k, and i was trying to match that up with the math |
| 16:29.18 | Legorol | i quickly realised that i need to be looking at sta instead of HP |
| 16:29.28 | Legorol | but even the sta numbers aren't consistent with talents it seems |
| 16:29.43 | cncfanatics | Legorol: I'm guessing a part of base stamina is added and then the rest depending on gear ? |
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| 16:30.37 | Moleculor | Talents are probably only affecting gear-stam. |
| 16:30.38 | Moleculor | I hate how I have to install an addon in Firefox to get the damn mouseover texts to stay visible for longer than three seconds. |
| 16:30.44 | Mikk | meh, sorry, i'm too hungry to help you TC that. need food. |
| 16:31.03 | Legorol | Moleculor: it's possible, although that's not what the tooltips say |
| 16:31.25 | Legorol | ok, as far as i'm aware, the only change to bear hp/sta in this patch was hotw going from 20% to 10%, right? |
| 16:31.26 | Wobin | Moleculor: It makes xkcd so difficult to read =P |
| 16:31.42 | Moleculor | That's the EXACT site I'm having issues with, Wobin. |
| 16:31.43 | Wobin | heheh |
| 16:31.46 | Moleculor | Mind Vision's tooltip says unlimited range, but it hasn't been unlimited range since 1.x. |
| 16:31.48 | Wobin | I know cause I had the same problem =) |
| 16:32.15 | Legorol | so the amount of sta that he lost in bear, compared to before the patch, should be equal to 10% of his caster form sta |
| 16:32.19 | Moleculor | What's the addon you're using to keep them present, Wobin? |
| 16:33.06 | Legorol | do bears get more than a 10x multiplier going from sta->hp? |
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| 16:34.10 | Wobin | Moleculor: I don't appear to be using one |
| 16:34.22 | Wobin | I -am- however using FFB3.1 |
| 16:34.29 | Wobin | B3 |
| 16:34.41 | Moleculor | Grr. I know FF2 had an addon for it. No idea if anyone ever wrote one for 3. |
| 16:34.46 | Moleculor | Stupid FF, breaking addons. |
| 16:34.53 | Wobin | just hop to the beta =) |
| 16:34.56 | Wobin | it's pretty good |
| 16:35.56 | Moleculor | Hm. |
| 16:36.15 | Moleculor | I have problems with FF3's memory leak. Are you having any problems with FF's beta? |
| 16:41.00 | Shirik | lol @ Fx3 memory leak |
| 16:41.09 | Shirik | whatever happened to "Firefox doesn't have any memory leaks!!!" |
| 16:41.12 | Funkeh` | I think most of those got fixed in fx3 |
| 16:41.35 | Adys | "Oracle Corporation (NASDAQ: ORCL) and Sun Microsystems (NASDAQ: JAVA) announced today they have entered into a definitive agreement under which Oracle will acquire Sun common stock for $9.50 per share in cash" |
| 16:41.48 | Moleculor | ... What? |
| 16:41.51 | Kalroth | old! |
| 16:41.51 | Adys | there was an article just a few days ago about it being a possibility |
| 16:41.51 | Moleculor | Srsly? |
| 16:41.59 | Adys | found it funny |
| 16:42.06 | Kalroth | Adys: read the stormrage chan more, MooTiger said it like 5 hours ago :P |
| 16:42.20 | Adys | there |
| 16:43.17 | Kalroth | Oracle Sun Corporation Microsystems (ORCAVA) |
| 16:44.10 | Moleculor | Orc Java? |
| 16:44.32 | Kalroth | zug zug |
| 16:44.46 | Moleculor | Keeps the Peons working day and night. |
| 16:44.48 | Wobin | Lok'tar! |
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| 16:44.57 | kamdis | Work, work! |
| 16:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | Stephen Hawking is ill. |
| 16:45.27 | Moleculor | Yes. |
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| 16:47.21 | Lunessa | Me not that kind of orc! |
| 16:47.45 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 16:47.53 | Wobin | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht96HJ01SE4 |
| 16:49.33 | Wobin | awesome ^ =) |
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| 16:52.26 | kd3 | wahaha... I love spellstealing metatonia |
| 16:52.29 | kd3 | 18k crits |
| 16:52.57 | kd3 | s/metatonia/metanoia/ |
| 16:53.40 | Lunessa | I was spellstealing Frost Reflection form mage hunters this morning. Good times. |
| 16:54.07 | Lopeppeppy | I hear spellsteal is like... yummy |
| 16:54.19 | Shirik | can't hear that from here, Wobin :( |
| 16:54.28 | kd3 | dammit... enough of the snowballs. gimme the damn drake! |
| 16:54.55 | Wobin | Shirik: aww, it's really really well done =) |
| 16:55.48 | zenzelezz | kd3: sorry, here's some bananas |
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| 16:58.12 | Moleculor | Drake? Snowballs? |
| 16:58.32 | Moleculor | Snowballs come from the daily in Storm Peaks, but it gives a bear mount, not a drake. |
| 17:00.55 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/19/funny-pictures-demands-my-immediate-attenshuns/ |
| 17:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like it's a screw, too, Lunessa. |
| 17:02.22 | Lunessa | ... shiny screw demands immediate attention. |
| 17:03.05 | Lopeppeppy | As well it might. |
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| 17:08.38 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/17/funny-pictures-and-excellent-cuddle-skillz/ |
| 17:18.42 | Wobin | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/20/funny-pictures-just-sum-skittlez/ |
| 17:19.06 | Wobin | also http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/04/20/funny-pictures-significant-otters/ |
| 17:19.07 | Wobin | d'aww |
| 17:20.09 | Lunessa | Skittles - I will never eat them again. |
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| 17:21.55 | AckisWork | ~api GetTradeSkillListLink |
| 17:21.56 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTradeSkillListLink |
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| 17:27.59 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 17:28.03 | Dashkal | I miss blood tanking |
| 17:28.21 | Dashkal | I got to do it.. twice |
| 17:29.15 | Trela_ | It is so nice. |
| 17:29.33 | Dashkal | after 3.1 my healers started complaining that I turned squishy. |
| 17:29.36 | Trela_ | <Healer> *Stops healing.* I give up. Take some damage and call me. |
| 17:30.04 | Dashkal | I saw it myself. I was franticly pounding on the oh shit buttons |
| 17:30.14 | Dashkal | Maybe I should have taken blood worms... dunno |
| 17:30.55 | Trela_ | Blood Worms is a decent help. |
| 17:30.57 | Dashkal | The DS nerf I agree with. I just wish blood had more pure mitigation |
| 17:31.49 | Dashkal | (sort of, sucks that DS became useless to non-blood) |
| 17:32.28 | Trela_ | Trying to remember the stupid spell name. |
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| 17:33.47 | Trela_ | Death Strike! |
| 17:33.54 | Dashkal | Oh, sorry :p |
| 17:34.11 | Dashkal | Yeah, Death Strike had its healing nerfed to the ground to compensate for the major damage boost blood got |
| 17:34.23 | Dashkal | Still works as blood, not so much for frost/unholy |
| 17:34.50 | Trela_ | I really miss the extra healing it gave for solo'ing and some times it just gives crap back like it is broken. |
| 17:36.07 | Lunessa | After reading some threads in UI & Macros, I now want: Waffles, Bacon, A deep-fried Twinkie with chocolate and a side of bacon. Kaelten - make it happn, k? |
| 17:36.16 | Dashkal | I'm still of the opinion that Annihilation should be baseline and deep frost should get an oblit damage boost. Nerf DS back to where it was and make oblit the heavy FU |
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| 17:36.50 | Dashkal | (yes I'm aware that oblit would need a baseline nerf to keep things even) |
| 17:38.13 | Trela_ | I rarely ever, pretty much never use Obliterate. |
| 17:38.38 | Dashkal | I used to be blood/annihilation for my DPS build |
| 17:38.54 | Dashkal | Now I'm blood/necrosis. DPS is about where it was |
| 17:40.09 | Trela_ | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Moon+Guard&cn=K%C3%ADssy |
| 17:40.45 | kobh | Hello! Why does my slashcommand-handler not toggle properly? http://yabo.pastebin.com/m53ac6716 (20 lines) |
| 17:41.15 | Dashkal | ooo, that has some promise |
| 17:42.14 | Dashkal | Well, hrm, it looks a little odd too. No bladed armor? |
| 17:42.21 | Dashkal | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Maelstrom&cn=Dashkal&gn=Banana+Syndicate |
| 17:42.49 | Kirov | kobh - any reason for the split? |
| 17:43.39 | kobh | yes, it is to read arguments for the functions (it is actually quite a bit longer than what i pasted) |
| 17:44.15 | Kirov | well, that would explain the missing end |
| 17:44.51 | kobh | oh, sorry :R |
| 17:45.22 | Trela_ | I should have Bladed Armor. |
| 17:45.57 | Trela_ | I went for Rune Tap. |
| 17:46.05 | kobh | seems like it works after all now. :| |
| 17:46.25 | Kirov | general lua-ness, there's no reason to do elseif, just else there will suffice (and be less error prone if something else goes wrong). As for why it's not toggling, the code reads right. |
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| 17:46.35 | Dashkal | Rune tap can be fun, but I don't take it just cause I can't afford the 4 points |
| 17:46.55 | Dashkal | I do like it in tanking build since it's a re-usable pot |
| 17:47.03 | Shirik | goes back to sleep |
| 17:47.32 | Trela_ | Scent of Blood with Butchery means I always have runic power. I have so much I use Death Coil to pull. |
| 17:48.00 | Dashkal | wait a tick, that's a tanking build? |
| 17:48.27 | Trela_ | For me? |
| 17:48.35 | Dashkal | The one you linked |
| 17:48.44 | Dashkal | Is that a tank build or were you caught in a solo build? |
| 17:48.50 | Wobin | no blade barrier? |
| 17:48.54 | Wobin | crazy =P |
| 17:49.04 | Trela_ | I have no idea. :O I went, "This looks good!" *Click click click!* |
| 17:49.08 | Dashkal | I ask because it's missing the 5/5/5 |
| 17:49.10 | Trela_ | I tank and DPS with it. |
| 17:49.21 | Dashkal | 74 |
| 17:49.23 | Dashkal | leveling build. gotcha |
| 17:49.29 | Wobin | ah |
| 17:49.44 | Wobin | yeah, 5/5/5 is, I'd say, required for tanking |
| 17:49.47 | Dashkal | You'll need that 5/5/5 come heroics |
| 17:50.07 | Wobin | Blade Barrier/Toughness/Anticipation |
| 17:50.21 | alestane | Lunessa: That's bacon twice. |
| 17:50.29 | Lunessa | alestane: I like bacon. |
| 17:50.39 | Wobin | alestane: There are only a few times when there can be too much bacon |
| 17:50.41 | krka | mmm kevin bacon! |
| 17:50.43 | Wobin | and I don't like those times |
| 17:51.04 | Dashkal | I gave up for the time being and took a frost tank build. The healers thanked me :( |
| 17:51.27 | Wobin | for actually taking damage? |
| 17:51.28 | Wobin | whut? |
| 17:51.30 | Dashkal | Granted deathchill-howling blast crits are fun, but I want blood |
| 17:51.35 | Lunessa | is waiting for alestane to get the references to a shared favorite movie. |
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| 17:51.58 | Dashkal | Wobin: Got a blood tank build that works? Cause I was super squishy thursday night |
| 17:51.59 | Wobin | I just work off Killing Machine howling blast crits now =) |
| 17:52.02 | alestane | It's nagging at me, but I can't quite bring it up. |
| 17:52.07 | Wobin | Dashkal: not yet =\ |
| 17:52.16 | Trela_ | Is the normal rotation Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Heart, Heart, then renew diseases and Heart from there. |
| 17:52.18 | Trela_ | ? |
| 17:52.19 | Wobin | I'm still trying to get used to Howling Blast Glyph tanking |
| 17:52.26 | Wobin | for blood? |
| 17:52.29 | Trela_ | Yes. |
| 17:52.32 | Dashkal | I went frost because they made me offtank in ulduar. No way I'm doing that with a build that has me squishy in naxx |
| 17:52.32 | Wobin | IT, PS, HS, HS, DS |
| 17:52.37 | Wobin | Rune dump |
| 17:52.43 | Wobin | HS, HS, HS, HS, DS |
| 17:52.47 | Wobin | Rune Dump |
| 17:52.59 | Trela_ | Yep, that is pretty much what I do. |
| 17:53.05 | Trela_ | Obliterate useful at all? |
| 17:53.10 | Lunessa | alestane: The recruitment scene in Blazing Saddles. |
| 17:53.14 | Wobin | DS is the new Oblit for Blood now |
| 17:53.20 | Dashkal | Not as blood. They intentionally removed it from blood's rotation |
| 17:53.20 | Trela_ | noddles. |
| 17:53.27 | Trela_ | How come? |
| 17:53.36 | alestane | Lunessa: Although I named a mod after it, I've only seen about five minutes of Blazing Saddles. |
| 17:53.41 | Wobin | it does really nice damage as a crit |
| 17:53.44 | Wobin | aside from the lack of heal |
| 17:54.01 | Dashkal | Oblit in blood was a little too powerful. Wish they found another way |
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| 17:54.20 | Dashkal | Side effect of making DS replace Oblit was they had to nerf DS's healing into the ground |
| 17:54.39 | Dagmar | Hiustrionics |
| 17:54.43 | Dagmar | s/Hiu/Hi/; |
| 17:54.53 | Wobin | yeah =( |
| 17:55.05 | Lunessa | alestane: ... ... ... We must rectify this. |
| 17:55.22 | Shirik|zZz | Lunessa: ... --- ... |
| 17:55.28 | Dashkal | Meh, Blizzcast 9 is out. It's a glorified ad for the new arthas book |
| 17:55.30 | Wobin | now it apparently only takes into account a single disease when calculating the heal |
| 17:55.38 | Lunessa | Shirik|zZz: I didn't know you knew Morse Code |
| 17:55.55 | alestane | In his sleep no less. |
| 17:55.57 | Dagmar | A 20% reduction is hardly "to the ground" |
| 17:55.59 | Wobin | for SOS? =P |
| 17:56.19 | Dashkal | Dagmar: In any spec but blood, my HP bar no longer budges on a DS crit. |
| 17:56.21 | Shirik|zZz | .. / -.- -. --- .-- / ...- . .-. -.-- / .-.. .. - - .-.. . / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . / -....- -....- / ... .--. . -.-. .. ..-. .. -.-. .- .-.. .-.. -.-- --..-- / - .... .- - / ..-. --- .-. / .-..-. ... --- ... .-.-.- .-..-. |
| 17:56.21 | Wobin | I'm quite liking blood/unholy spec |
| 17:56.27 | kamdis | DS is only nerfed to the ground for non-Blood |
| 17:56.37 | Wobin | CE is sooo much fun =) |
| 17:56.45 | kamdis | It still kept me healed through Tantrum last night. |
| 17:56.51 | Wobin | *BOOM* ahahahahah! |
| 17:56.57 | Dashkal | Same for me, but I was blood :p |
| 17:57.02 | mikma | wobin: :D |
| 17:57.04 | Dagmar | Is this some undocumented change? |
| 17:57.13 | Wobin | Dagmar: I believe so |
| 17:57.14 | Dashkal | Hotfix. Came post patch |
| 17:57.19 | Lunessa | Shirik|zZz: Show-off. |
| 17:57.20 | Trela_ | Dashkal: In blood mine barely moves either. |
| 17:57.24 | Shirik|zZz | Lunessa :P |
| 17:57.41 | Wobin | hm |
| 17:57.49 | kamdis | Yes, I'm Blood too. It does suck for Unholy and Frost though. :| |
| 17:57.56 | Wobin | does it work for bloodspec only due to the ridiculous amount of +damage bloodspec gives it? |
| 17:57.56 | Lunessa | Hehe... |
| 17:57.58 | Dashkal | Trela_ in blood it can save my ass in a pinch. Makes me glad I'm blood DPS. I tend to be the last to drop in a wipe (which sadly is all we do in ulduar atm) |
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| 17:58.34 | Wobin | I don't bother using deathstrike as a frost tank anymore =( |
| 17:58.41 | Wobin | I just hope for healing =P |
| 17:58.44 | Dashkal | Wobin: agreed. That's why I'm sad |
| 17:58.46 | Wobin | and hit lifeblood |
| 17:58.48 | Trela_ | I typically have 15,000 health running around so my current level of Death Strike does little. |
| 17:58.49 | Dashkal | I'm currently frost tank offspec |
| 17:58.52 | Dagmar | I have never seen ds' heal save my ass |
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| 17:59.02 | Wobin | although I need to get a RaiseDead/Sacrifice macro going |
| 17:59.04 | Dashkal | Dagmar: Tantrum :p |
| 17:59.11 | Dagmar | It's generally what I'm desperately mashing before I get beaten to death |
| 17:59.16 | mikma | wobin: since the boost, CE is actually a huge damage in groups :) |
| 17:59.23 | mikma | and with the glyph it gets even better! |
| 17:59.24 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 17:59.28 | alestane | Well, stepping out for a while. |
| 17:59.36 | Wobin | hehe I was using it on a speed CoS run |
| 17:59.37 | mikma | everyone who dies because of the CE will explode too -> causes chainreaction |
| 17:59.40 | Wobin | so much fun |
| 18:00.05 | Dashkal | I should get the CE glyph. I don't need pestelience anymore. My glyphs are completely out of date (I still have oblit) |
| 18:00.13 | mikma | obli is good |
| 18:00.21 | Dagmar | How exactly is DS supposed to have changed for some specs and not others tho |
| 18:00.22 | Wobin | for frost |
| 18:00.27 | Dashkal | I need the DRW and Death Coil glyphs |
| 18:00.35 | mikma | since they actually boosted the obliglyph |
| 18:00.35 | Wobin | Dagmar: blood -does- give DS a huge damage/crit boost |
| 18:00.41 | Dagmar | mikma: Glyph of Explody Boom is my favorite |
| 18:00.44 | Dashkal | Dagmar: Blood got a new talent to make DS hit like oblit did |
| 18:00.54 | Dashkal | Which made blood badly overpowered |
| 18:01.04 | Wobin | inc damage by 30% and crit strike by 6% |
| 18:01.10 | Dashkal | For a day or so we were back to the unkillable beta days :p |
| 18:01.34 | Dagmar | mikma: They didn't fix the internal cooldown on it did they? |
| 18:01.40 | Trela_ | Only a day? |
| 18:01.46 | Dashkal | If that |
| 18:01.49 | Wobin | Do bloodworms give decent healing? |
| 18:01.51 | Dashkal | They hotfixed it pretty quickly |
| 18:02.03 | Dagmar | Bloodworms have been beating DS for self-heal most days |
| 18:02.05 | Dashkal | I haven't tested bloodworms since the patch. They did get buffed |
| 18:02.07 | Trela_ | What was fixed exactly? o.o |
| 18:02.21 | mikma | dagmar: afaik the internal cooldown works as planned |
| 18:02.24 | Dashkal | Trela_: The hotfixed nerfed the healing (not the damage) of death strike |
| 18:02.32 | Wobin | hm I might consider adding it... I don't -really- need runic mastery yet |
| 18:02.37 | mikma | dagmar: but yet it causes multiple explosions :D |
| 18:02.38 | Trela_ | Oh, it was not fixed properly in the patch? |
| 18:02.41 | Dagmar | mikma: That would mean the tooltip is wrong then |
| 18:02.51 | Dashkal | If was an unexpected consequence of replacing oblit with DS |
| 18:02.55 | mikma | also, if you CE some corpse it might actually explode already dead mob/player too |
| 18:03.01 | Trela_ | boggles. |
| 18:03.06 | Dagmar | mikma: I've actually had some success stacking mobs in Scarlet Monastery so that the entire pull gibs |
| 18:03.08 | Trela_ | It says it in the 3.1 notes though. |
| 18:03.27 | Dashkal | reads |
| 18:03.29 | mikma | dagmar: working as intended imho |
| 18:03.32 | Dagmar | mikma: ...but the tooltip goes on about it not being able to happen more than once in x seconds |
| 18:03.34 | mikma | dagmar: that's what the glyph says :) |
| 18:03.35 | Dagmar | I like it this way |
| 18:03.36 | Dashkal | I'm just going by the blue posts immediately after the patch |
| 18:03.52 | Dagmar | If it could only explode a second set of bodies it wouldn't be nearly as much fun |
| 18:03.54 | mikma | dagmar: it explodes *everyone* who dies because of the original CE |
| 18:04.01 | Dagmar | THe *sound* it makes when you get a good chain reaction going is great |
| 18:04.02 | Trela_ | It would make sense if it was, "Uh, that was intended, but we broke so the patch, so here is the fix." |
| 18:04.06 | Wobin | hehe |
| 18:04.07 | mikma | SPLURT |
| 18:04.11 | Wobin | so viscereal |
| 18:04.27 | Dagmar | mikma: Well, specifically, it shouldn't be exploding the *third* guy who died because of the second corpse explosion, but it does |
| 18:04.41 | Dashkal | Trela_: Ahh, they nerfed it further than that |
| 18:04.46 | Wobin | I'd better get this glyph and soon |
| 18:04.50 | mikma | dagmar: well, that's a bug :) enjoy it! |
| 18:04.56 | Dagmar | mikma: I do |
| 18:05.06 | Wobin | night all |
| 18:05.09 | mikma | nn wobbly |
| 18:05.11 | Wobin | I have to stop going to bed at 4am =( |
| 18:05.23 | Trela_ | Show me the post?~ |
| 18:05.42 | Dashkal | I don't really have the time to search the blue trackers atm |
| 18:05.55 | Dashkal | This is the fallout thread: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/16474258965-the-death-strike-hotfix-is-bugged.html |
| 18:06.09 | Trela_ | Okay. :D |
| 18:07.06 | kamdis | Can anyone give me (Lua noob) a general idea of what I would look for to change the location of raid frames in an oUF layout? |
| 18:07.31 | Trela_ | So it was originally 60%, then reduced 20% to 40%? |
| 18:08.40 | Dashkal | Or so. I didn't memorize the exact number (don't care, I just care how much my health bar jumps) |
| 18:08.48 | Lunessa | kamdis: I'll help. :) |
| 18:09.00 | Taroven | kamdis: "raidg:SetPoint('TOP', oUF.units.player, 'BOTTOM', 0, -5)" (from my own ouf layout, will be different between layouts, but should look about the same) |
| 18:09.10 | Dagmar | Trela: Thats' what was documented |
| 18:09.32 | Dagmar | This business of it ignoring the third disease is lame tho |
| 18:09.44 | Taroven | kamdis: Most oUF layouts place the positioning code near the bottom of the file, so that's a good place to start |
| 18:10.05 | kamdis | Thank you |
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| 18:10.47 | Taroven | kamdis: also look at http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint |
| 18:11.37 | haste | cd |
| 18:11.41 | haste | wrong terminal! |
| 18:11.46 | Taroven | XD |
| 18:12.05 | haste | at least I wasn't trying to access my porn folder |
| 18:12.17 | haste | randomdly typing something from that would look odd :D |
| 18:12.52 | kamdis | thanks all, that'll do it. :) <3 |
| 18:12.59 | Kirov | we know it's filled with pictures of mac products |
| 18:14.09 | Adys | so I've got a 1-year longstanding css problem |
| 18:14.28 | Adys | anyone who manages to fix it, no matter how hacky (as long as it's pure html/css) gets a surprise. |
| 18:14.50 | Adys | <div id="tt"><div id="tt-title">Tooltip Title</div><div id="tt-content">(Tooltip content, a bunch of divs/spans)</div></div> - I want #tt's width to be determined by the length of #tt-title (which should never span over 2 lines), and #tt-content to span over if needs be. |
| 18:14.51 | amro | I'm not sure I'd be surprised |
| 18:16.22 | Trela_ | Uh... Width/Length are two different things. |
| 18:16.49 | Trela_ | I am assuming you mean the width of both. |
| 18:17.21 | Dagmar | I think basically, you're going it worng. |
| 18:17.25 | Trela_ | Is this on a web page I can see? |
| 18:17.56 | Adys | nop Trela but I can make a testcase |
| 18:27.20 | kobh | is raging |
| 18:28.19 | Trela_ | watches kobh rage. |
| 18:28.51 | kobh | one of my frames is not changing colours right after relogs. why?! |
| 18:28.55 | kobh | http://yabo.pastebin.com/m6826864d |
| 18:29.13 | Taroven | Is there a way to completely wipe a wowi svn project and start it over from scratch? I accidentally the directory structure when I was sleep-deprived. >.> |
| 18:29.16 | kobh | .xml* |
| 18:29.23 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: *looks at your achievements* *blinks* What's next? |
| 18:29.51 | Xinhuan | wrong channel? lol |
| 18:29.57 | Dashkal | oops, yes |
| 18:30.12 | Dashkal | There's so much overlap it's easy to accidently move |
| 18:30.56 | Adys | so, Trela |
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| 18:32.43 | kobh | if a fontstring has text set to nil, can you still change the textcolor without problems? |
| 18:32.48 | Adys | Trela_: http://devcub.com/~adys/test.html |
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| 18:33.26 | Trela_ | looks! |
| 18:33.29 | Trela_ | clears screen at home. |
| 18:33.47 | Taroven | Yes kobh |
| 18:33.55 | kobh | THEN "#)¤/")#¤/ |
| 18:34.05 | kobh | 's rage continues. |
| 18:36.51 | Dagmar | kobh: You can try, but it's bugged. |
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| 18:38.44 | kobh | how, Dagmar? |
| 18:38.50 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: changed |
| 18:39.00 | Dagmar | Invisible text never seems to come out the right color |
| 18:39.46 | mikma | cairenn|afk: love ya! |
| 18:39.49 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 18:40.20 | Cairenn|afk | Ackis: you are welcome to start a thread on WoWI if you want to, probably best fit in the "developer discussions" section |
| 18:40.36 | Cairenn|afk | Ackis or I can start it for you |
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| 18:42.47 | Lunessa | "I will glady dance naked in front of a camera if it means an author will be able to get their updates out in time. " Bluspacecow /facepalm |
| 18:42.54 | Zhinjio | G'dafternoon, Cairenn |
| 18:43.11 | Cairenn|afk | hi hi |
| 18:43.34 | Cairenn|afk | not officially here yet, still trying to get caught up on everything, that's why I haven't changed my nick yet ;) |
| 18:43.51 | Lopeppeppy | catches up to Cairenn! Rawr. |
| 18:44.14 | Cairenn|afk | hehehe |
| 18:45.01 | AckisWork | Cairenn|afk: prolly best if you started one btw :) |
| 18:45.07 | Cairenn|afk | will do |
| 18:45.22 | AckisWork | stupid text message woke me up here at wokr =/ |
| 18:45.37 | Cairenn|afk | sorry :( |
| 18:46.01 | AckisWork | wasn't your fault :) was a twitter update!!! tweet tweet |
| 18:46.06 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 18:46.30 | Cairenn|afk | still, shame you got woken up at work, now you might have to actually be, like, all productive and shit |
| 18:46.34 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
| 18:46.42 | AckisWork | i know eh? |
| 18:46.43 | AckisWork | bastards |
| 18:47.23 | ZorbaGama | "my quest helper is out of date now because of the new patch. what can i do?" sigh |
| 18:47.45 | amro | COSMOS IS BROKEN :( |
| 18:48.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes! |
| 18:48.35 | Adys | Trela_: any idea? |
| 18:48.48 | Trela_ | Adys: Working on it. |
| 18:49.04 | Trela_ | I know what it is supposed to do, but it has to do with the lay out as well. |
| 18:50.36 | Lunessa | ZorbaGama: O NOES mai QH dun werk. wut 2 do? |
| 18:51.16 | Lopeppeppy | You get nu1 |
| 18:51.22 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 45542 |
| 18:51.23 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=45542 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=45542 |
| 18:51.35 | nicoli_s | ooh thats fancy |
| 18:51.53 | nicoli_s | but personally i think it should be sorted alphabetically....with wowdb first :P |
| 18:52.21 | AckisWork | heheh |
| 18:52.51 | ZorbaGama | hmm, is china not on the 3.1 patch yet? |
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| 18:54.57 | nicoli_s | china doesnt even have the dk yet, they is behind on the times |
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| 18:57.38 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure they *can* have DK, with their prohibitions about blood and undead and stuff. |
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| 19:02.06 | Dashkal | I was expecting china to skip wrath.. |
| 19:02.20 | Dashkal | Talk to this NPC to skip to level 80, now go level :p |
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| 19:06.06 | Adys | Trela_: think Im gonna give uo |
| 19:06.07 | Adys | up |
| 19:06.16 | Trela_ | You code HATES ME. |
| 19:06.18 | Trela_ | *Your |
| 19:06.37 | Trela_ | I can do this successfully for width on my web site, but not in this code. |
| 19:06.46 | Adys | do link then |
| 19:06.54 | Adys | Ill adapt |
| 19:07.09 | Trela_ | The reality is that your implementation may require javascript. |
| 19:07.22 | Adys | no |
| 19:07.25 | Dagmar | Trela: That was my take on it |
| 19:07.28 | Adys | the whole point is not requiring js |
| 19:08.26 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: I find it amusing that they're *now* carping about the skeleton model as well |
| 19:08.30 | Trela_ | has a brain storm! |
| 19:10.12 | Adys | Trela_: you said you had it working on your site, link that and Ill adapt it |
| 19:10.25 | Trela_ | Not exactly what I mean. |
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| 19:14.03 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, I'm not 100% sure that's on their objectionable list, but I know they have very strict standards for blood and death and stuff. |
| 19:14.46 | Adys | thankfully they don't have strict rules about tasteless content so they did manage to get burning crusade shipped there |
| 19:14.52 | Trela_ | XD |
| 19:15.00 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: http://wow.qj.net/Chinese-censorship-brings-flesh-to-undead-bones/pg/49/aid/96565 |
| 19:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.37signals.com/svn/images/album_covers_lg.jpg |
| 19:16.05 | Dagmar | THey never got that excited about it until Wrath |
| 19:16.26 | Adys | strange use of the word "censorship" |
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| 19:22.37 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: I've just gone through and changed the author on your mods so they all show with the lowercase m now as well |
| 19:23.08 | Trela_ | Adys: I know what is supposed to happen there. Title div gets an absolute width based on the width of the text and then the line divs contained in that inherit it, but it goes, "Neiner neiner!" ignoring it. |
| 19:23.12 | mikma | cairenn|afk: now, that's super-service! |
| 19:23.18 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 19:23.26 | mikma | cairenn|afk: hope it wasn't a huge job :I |
| 19:23.30 | Cairenn|afk | naw |
| 19:23.52 | Lunessa | Mmmm... Jimmi Hendrix tunes, code, irc and e-mail. Life is almost good. |
| 19:24.02 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.47 | Taroven | Lunessa: Almost? |
| 19:24.55 | Taroven | Sounds like good to me. =P |
| 19:24.59 | Lunessa | Need female company and liquor. |
| 19:25.03 | Taroven | Ah. |
| 19:25.08 | Taroven | ^_^ |
| 19:25.11 | Lunessa | And bacon. |
| 19:25.17 | Taroven | Mmm. |
| 19:25.18 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles up to Lunessa. Sorry, no bacon |
| 19:25.22 | Taroven | Then it WOULD be good. |
| 19:25.30 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 19:25.35 | Taroven | Dammit! Quit raising my standards! |
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| 19:26.40 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I'm never gonna get dates if you keep raising the stakes like that. |
| 19:26.41 | Lopeppeppy | Unfair. |
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| 19:27.19 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I never play fair. Playing fair in love, war, or chess is for saps. |
| 19:29.41 | Trela_ | Adys: Your code still makes me WTF. It is now blatantly ignoring style properties. |
| 19:29.50 | Dagmar | Firebug time |
| 19:29.52 | Adys | its not my code |
| 19:29.53 | Adys | its yours |
| 19:30.06 | Adys | i gave you a testcase, you do whatever you want with it :P |
| 19:30.24 | Trela_ | stamps "Property of Adys" on it! |
| 19:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I always stack the deck, so what? :) |
| 19:30.49 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: *chuckle* you said "stack" hehe |
| 19:31.57 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, my very own Bevis and Butthead friend. |
| 19:32.03 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalesmack Lunessa |
| 19:32.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oh well, no whalesmacks. |
| 19:32.32 | Lopeppeppy | ~whalenuke Lunessa |
| 19:32.33 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Lunessa with his mind powers. |
| 19:32.33 | Lunessa | I'm in one of those moods today. |
| 19:32.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hah! Glow! |
| 19:32.41 | KarlKFI | ~whaleslap Lopeppeppy |
| 19:32.42 | purl | ACTION beats Lopeppeppy upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 19:32.50 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, Karl, didn't know you cared! |
| 19:33.10 | KarlKFI | i like correcting people |
| 19:33.24 | Lunessa | Warning: Maths. Humor. Kittehs: http://mehtank.com/coeus/files/pdf/cat.pdf |
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| 19:37.45 | kamdis | does PerfectRaid have an aggro indicator? |
| 19:38.16 | zenzelezz | no wonder I never finished any UI mods, I can never find a decent border color for frames |
| 19:38.32 | KarlKFI | weird kam, i dont have a clue and i've used it a long time |
| 19:38.35 | alestane | "The kitten doesnât fit completely inside the predicted shape; the posterior of the animal protrudes beyond the expected boundary. This is a manifestation of the non-ideality of the surface on which the kitty-puddle rests." |
| 19:38.41 | KarlKFI | i know it has a range alpha |
| 19:38.50 | KarlKFI | i dont think it has agro indicator |
| 19:38.51 | kamdis | and the bars change color as health drops |
| 19:38.59 | kamdis | not sure it has aggro though |
| 19:39.11 | kamdis | the info on the DL page doesn't mention it |
| 19:39.17 | KarlKFI | as a tank i'm not usually lookign at bars |
| 19:39.24 | KarlKFI | or not at the raid bars |
| 19:39.32 | KarlKFI | so it's not esp useful to have agro info there |
| 19:39.34 | Lunessa | kamdis: No. |
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| 19:39.40 | kamdis | thank you! |
| 19:40.19 | KarlKFI | i have agro on the overhead bars, which works pretty well, tho it can be hard to click on those bars when they overlap |
| 19:40.33 | kamdis | I've forgotten everything about raid mods from when I was a healer. |
| 19:40.42 | kamdis | in a matter of months :P |
| 19:40.54 | KarlKFI | pretty much.. |
| 19:41.18 | KarlKFI | agro on PRaid would be useful tho... |
| 19:41.38 | KarlKFI | i do occationally notice large health drops with them and taunt off them |
| 19:41.48 | Shadowed | hm? |
| 19:41.53 | Shadowed | PR has aggro indicators |
| 19:42.00 | KarlKFI | you sure? |
| 19:42.07 | Shadowed | not threat, but it does tell you when something is going to smash people |
| 19:42.15 | Shadowed | yes, names turn red |
| 19:42.22 | KarlKFI | oh.. |
| 19:42.36 | KarlKFI | maybe that's why i dont see it |
| 19:42.37 | Shadowed | Yea it's had that for a long time :p |
| 19:42.41 | Shadowed | /praid -> aggro |
| 19:42.51 | KarlKFI | hmmm |
| 19:43.02 | KarlKFI | WTB red border glow |
| 19:43.05 | kamdis | Ah sweet |
| 19:43.53 | KarlKFI | how does it track it? loop through raid target of target? |
| 19:44.49 | Shadowed | yes |
| 19:45.32 | KarlKFI | hmmm |
| 19:46.09 | KarlKFI | seems tho if 2 of us thought it didn't have it, that it could stand to be a little less subtle ;) |
| 19:46.30 | Shadowed | maybe you should have looked at the configuration and saw the tab saying "Aggro"? :P |
| 19:46.38 | KarlKFI | i'm at work |
| 19:46.51 | KarlKFI | i mean the indicator, not the config |
| 19:47.11 | KarlKFI | what options does it have? |
| 19:47.55 | Shadowed | just enable/time between updates |
| 19:48.01 | KarlKFI | mmm |
| 19:48.06 | KarlKFI | maybe i dont have it enabled |
| 19:48.17 | Lopeppeppy | Maybes. |
| 19:50.04 | KarlKFI | been using it for ages, i haven't configured it in a while |
| 19:52.42 | kneeki | http://www.hornoxe.com/parkour-pov/ |
| 19:52.50 | kneeki | Anyone know where to get more music in that video? |
| 19:52.57 | kneeki | *Mirrors edge soundtrack?* |
| 19:53.40 | NeoTron | so gais, Magic Targets can just use secure frames to make <random list of enemy health bars that are added and sorted during combat> targetable! |
| 19:54.31 | alestane | And what bug, exactly, do I have to step on to fix THAT? |
| 19:55.18 | NeoTron | I just really don't get why people just accept that it's not possible to do in a satisfactory way or I'd done it by now |
| 19:55.21 | NeoTron | seriously |
| 19:55.42 | alestane | Because they Wannit! |
| 19:55.46 | kneeki | For those who care, I found moar! http://www.myspace.com/lisamiskovsky |
| 19:55.57 | NeoTron | like they assume I just don't want to add it because I'm lazy |
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| 19:57.17 | Lunessa | But NeoTron You're the ONE. With a LIGHTCYCLE - Users need more POWER! Fight the MCP! |
| 19:57.43 | NeoTron | win |
| 19:58.21 | NeoTron | and the "tron" part is in fact a reference to Tron. Neo however was jsut added to mean "new" long before The Matrix. It was my leet "Amiga handle" back in the days |
| 19:58.30 | Thunder_Child | sorry but the MCP is outdated |
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| 19:59.01 | Thunder_Child | by 20 years |
| 19:59.23 | Arrowmaster | that was a cool movie |
| 19:59.39 | Thunder_Child | damn right |
| 19:59.40 | Dagmar | I think you can get one of those as an Arduino module for like $40 now |
| 19:59.56 | Thunder_Child | i thought i heard something about someone doing a remake |
| 20:00.03 | Arrowmaster | i always laugh at how one of the special effects was done by accident |
| 20:00.36 | Thunder_Child | off, if you log out in BFD it ports you to the ent |
| 20:01.05 | Thunder_Child | s/ff/dd/ |
| 20:01.19 | Dagmar | Yeah, because once it resets... |
| 20:01.39 | Lunessa | My parents wouldn't let me go see Tron when it came out. They said, "We don't want to see it, and we don't want you going by yourself yet." I had to wait to see it on LaserDisc. Don't get me started on what they said about "Heavy Metal." |
| 20:02.14 | Dagmar | Well, what they said about that one was probably true |
| 20:04.30 | nicoli_s | TITTIES! |
| 20:04.42 | nicoli_s | that was the plot line of heavy metal right? |
| 20:05.28 | Lunessa | No, my mom specifically said, "That looks like crap, no story, and I hate the music." She had no issue with the titties. |
| 20:05.53 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: I think it was a matter of "Okay, break into teams and everyone write a story about a mysterious greeen sphere" |
| 20:06.15 | nicoli_s | i've never seen it, but i have seen the south park parody and thats good enough for me |
| 20:07.28 | Lunessa | You couldn't get the movie until '98/'99 because the music rights were a complicated, badly negotiated mess. |
| 20:07.44 | Lunessa | But, I have it on DVD and LaserDsic. |
| 20:10.03 | Dagmar | Well, you couldn't _buy_ it |
| 20:11.26 | Lunessa | You could see crappy VHS copies at cons and friend's houses. |
| 20:12.55 | Dagmar | I guess I had better contacts |
| 20:15.10 | alestane | Lunessa: To be smut/it must be ut/terly without redeeming social importance. |
| 20:15.59 | Lunessa | alestane: Tom Leher reference earns you +5 Honor. |
| 20:16.26 | alestane | I played one of his songs for my Instructional Design class this quarter. |
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| 20:18.15 | Lunessa | I don't want you to think I have to do this for a living. After all, I could make $3,000 a year just teaching. |
| 20:18.43 | alestane | I'm trying to remember if that comes with the song I played or not; I think it's from another one. |
| 20:19.47 | alestane | No, in this case it was, "Now instead of four in the tens place/you've got three, 'cause you added one/which is to say ten/to the two/but you can't take seven from three/so you look in the hundreds place." |
| 20:20.21 | airtonix | are there any plans to support the use of git at wowui for revision control? |
| 20:20.33 | airtonix | i fiond svn to be cumbersome and bloated |
| 20:20.35 | airtonix | find* |
| 20:22.01 | Thunder_Child | like a pregnan....nvm |
| 20:23.06 | Jamash | ~Lunessa++ |
| 20:23.10 | kneeki | Wow! |
| 20:23.16 | kneeki | Power Auras is one slick addon |
| 20:23.47 | Lunessa | alestane: New Math. Great song. |
| 20:23.52 | Jamash | oh thanks for reminding me, I need to download power auras |
| 20:24.11 | alestane | It's so simple/so very simple/that ONLY, A child, can do it!!!! |
| 20:24.28 | Lunessa | Oh yeah... The Jimi Hendrix version of All Along the Watchtower. Still the best performance of a Bob Dylan song, ever. |
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| 20:25.33 | nicoli_s | all along the watchtower is a bob dylan song? |
| 20:25.53 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: FAIL. |
| 20:26.04 | Lunessa | But yes, Bob Dylan wrote it. |
| 20:27.26 | nicoli_s | well either way im sure jimi's version is better |
| 20:27.54 | Dagmar | You can even make out what he says |
| 20:28.04 | aesir | Dylan wrote a ton of great music - that only became great when other people recorded versions of it. |
| 20:30.32 | alestane | Ah, kamdis gets me the best presents. |
| 20:31.05 | Jamash | Is there a way to tag an upload to an existing WoWI project as beta without going through SVN? |
| 20:31.18 | Lunessa | Manfred Man got famous for a hit that was written by Bruce Springsteen. |
| 20:31.28 | aesir | Blinded by the Light |
| 20:33.51 | nicoli_s | everytime i hear that song im just reminded of the part tha sounds like "wrapped up like a douche" |
| 20:34.53 | aesir | I still don't know what it really says. Revved up like a something? And I only just found out it's Big Ole' Jet Airliner. I mean, wtf, Steve Miller get the marbles out of yer mouth. |
| 20:34.59 | Lunessa | .. duce. DUCE. |
| 20:35.10 | ronghail | deuce |
| 20:35.19 | aesir | as in lil' deuce coupe deuce? |
| 20:35.26 | nicoli_s | coulda fooled me |
| 20:35.26 | Lunessa | ... /facepalms for mispelling it, twice. |
| 20:35.41 | Jamash | you misspelled "misspelled" |
| 20:35.53 | Jamash | err, misspelling |
| 20:36.11 | Jamash | we're all lousy typists today |
| 20:36.22 | KarlKFI | ~whaleslap everyone |
| 20:36.23 | purl | ACTION beats everyone upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 20:38.11 | Lunessa | I knew a guy who played the MMO "The Realm" with a thief named "Everybody" and kept a running blog of his adventures entitled "Everybody's a Theif" |
| 20:39.07 | alestane | "Nobody has maimed me!" |
| 20:41.04 | KarlKFI | 'Everybody' is one of those names that raid leaders make you pay for a name change |
| 20:41.34 | Lunessa | There's a great book out there called "Excuse me while I kiss this guy - A compilation of misheard Lyrics" - it's a treat to read. |
| 20:42.08 | Lunessa | KarlKFI: I think that was sort of the point. He use to do emotes like "/me cries at weddings." |
| 20:42.28 | aesir | Going to California with an acorn in my heart. (ouch!) |
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| 20:44.04 | Thunder_Child | am i going crazy or was there not an instance whos first boss was a phenoix? |
| 20:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | you mean tempest keep? |
| 20:44.47 | Thunder_Child | so it is, well fuck me. thanks NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:46.23 | mikma | well, so long european internet i guess |
| 20:47.28 | KarlKFI | tho most people did void reaver first |
| 20:47.44 | NightHawkTheSane | and often solarian |
| 20:47.55 | KarlKFI | solarian was harder |
| 20:48.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Always seemed easier than Al'ar to me. |
| 20:48.33 | NightHawkTheSane | The guild I'm in now, at least, had issues with Al'ar, but not VR or Solarian, *shrug* |
| 20:48.38 | mikma | http://www.laquadrature.net/en/ |
| 20:48.41 | KarlKFI | less complicated, but also required more people to be on top of their game |
| 20:49.10 | KarlKFI | Al'ar just required tanks that knew what they were doing |
| 20:49.27 | KarlKFI | Solarian required everyone to be paying attention |
| 20:49.39 | KarlKFI | so.... depends on your guild's strengths i guess |
| 20:49.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 20:50.30 | mikma | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecoms_Package |
| 20:50.50 | mikma | "The proposition also make it possible for Internet providers to decide which web pages users are allowed to visit, potentially limiting acess to websites critical of the ISP or the government. ISPs would then sell internet packages, similar to TV packages, allowing access to a limited number of websites. Critics claim this will limit the freedom of speech on Internet." |
| 20:50.55 | mikma | wheeeeeeeeee! |
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| 20:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: :o |
| 20:51.29 | Exawatt | Is there a way to get Windows (Vista) to search inside .lua and .xml files as plaintext? |
| 20:51.45 | NightHawkTheSane | grep. |
| 20:52.13 | nicoli_s | i use visual studio for searching |
| 20:52.35 | Exawatt | I don't want to search my own files, I want to search Blizzard's. |
| 20:52.45 | Dagmar | Good luck with that |
| 20:52.46 | NightHawkTheSane | grep. |
| 20:52.48 | Jamash | I use scite which uses findstr |
| 20:53.04 | Dagmar | I think they'd have to use Vista on their servers for you to do that |
| 20:53.42 | Jamash | bonks Dagmar on the head. |
| 20:53.44 | mikma | mikma@ydin:~/koe/FrameXML$ grep suck * |
| 20:53.44 | mikma | GlobalStrings.lua:VOICEMACRO_19_Sc_3_FEMALE = "I can't wait to suck the juice out of your eyeballs."; |
| 20:53.44 | Exawatt | Servers? What? I mean the files in /Interface Data (enUS)/ |
| 20:53.47 | mikma | MoneyFrame.lua: --The old sucky way of doing things |
| 20:53.47 | mikma | seems to work fine |
| 20:53.58 | kd3 | ! |
| 20:54.01 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: lol |
| 20:54.11 | kd3 | does some grepping of his own |
| 20:54.17 | Lunessa | Exawatt: Vista's "Find" will look inside files it knows are text - if they're on your local drive. |
| 20:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | grep will look inside YOUR SOUL. |
| 20:54.38 | Exawatt | Right. How do I make it learn that .lua and .xml are text? |
| 20:55.38 | Jamash | http://www.vistax64.com/vista-file-management/62583-find-file-containing-text-inside-file.html |
| 20:56.05 | airtonix | Exawatt, mime-types |
| 20:57.05 | Exawatt | That works. Thanks all. |
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| 20:58.35 | AbsolutRayne | Afternoon |
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| 21:01.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Etanol (n=Etanol@hus134a.bobbnet.com) |
| 21:01.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, yes it is. |
| 21:01.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirov (n=Kirov@173.10.85.26) |
| 21:04.44 | Jamash | OR IS IT? |
| 21:05.01 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 21:05.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, i suppose it might not be in hawaii |
| 21:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and perhaps parts of eastern asia. |
| 21:06.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Dark_Elf (i=Dark_Elf@ip46.net195.mw.net) |
| 21:06.13 | NightHawkTheSane | and australia. |
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| 21:09.59 | Arrowmaster | grrrr |
| 21:10.01 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16474159894&postId=164720276616&sid=1#84 |
| 21:10.09 | Arrowmaster | that makes me angry |
| 21:11.07 | mikma | who's Tokrim, and Omen2? |
| 21:11.19 | Arrowmaster | im tokrim |
| 21:11.30 | mikma | NO U |
| 21:11.54 | amro | Arrowmaster: I blame YOU! |
| 21:12.03 | amro | It's your fault wowmatrix is evil! |
| 21:12.08 | amro | It's all your fault! |
| 21:12.14 | Dagmar | Wowmatrix is run by goblins |
| 21:12.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm with amro here. i say we tar and feather him |
| 21:12.26 | KarlKFI | dont insult the goblins |
| 21:12.53 | mikma | ~wowmatrix |
| 21:12.54 | purl | ACTION stabs wowmatrix with an icicle made from the frozen tears of lazy users, or dodge this! |
| 21:13.30 | Thunder_Child | wow, this guys name was Salty Choclitbals |
| 21:13.53 | Teomyr | hmm... i'm thinking about getting dual-spec for my priest. how exactly would i design macros for it (e.g. cast vampiric touch when specced for it, otherwise open with holy fire)? |
| 21:14.11 | Teomyr | any suggestions? using two /casts works, but that doesn't show the correct icon |
| 21:14.22 | amro | Teomyr: your actionbars switch around, so you can have two different macros |
| 21:14.23 | Arrowmaster | Teomyr: you can use [spec:#] in macros where # is 1 or 2 |
| 21:14.24 | Dashkal | When you switch specs, you will switch your action bars as well |
| 21:14.50 | Teomyr | Arrowmaster, sweet, thank you |
| 21:14.57 | Dashkal | Is there a slashie for switching specs? |
| 21:14.58 | NightHawkTheSane | wowwiki has that, as well. |
| 21:15.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 21:15.13 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: /usetalents or something |
| 21:15.24 | Teomyr | amro, i won't be using the default action bar UI, that's why i won't be able to take advantage of that, probably (i guess) |
| 21:15.34 | amro | Teomyr: it still works |
| 21:15.36 | NightHawkTheSane | most actionbars swap properly |
| 21:16.00 | amro | your addon would have to be doing something really weird for it not to work |
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| 21:16.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Tem|work] by ChanServ |
| 21:16.07 | Teomyr | :o |
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| 21:17.22 | Tuller | secret pants attack! |
| 21:17.29 | NightHawkTheSane | which reminds me, Tuller! Is there any way to set a bar in dominos to NOT swap it's buttnos on talent change? or is that outside our control? |
| 21:17.31 | KarlKFI | ~pants Tuller |
| 21:17.32 | purl | ACTION steals Tuller's pants |
| 21:17.52 | Tuller | NightHawkTheSane: that's out of my control. I didn't write any code specifically to support the talent stuff |
| 21:18.22 | amro | indeed, dominos worked without an update after 3.1 |
| 21:18.24 | KarlKFI | the tallent actionbar swap is voodoo, it happens int he client and changes the actions ont he buttons pre-ui |
| 21:18.25 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: you would have to make a bar that isnt mapped to the actionids |
| 21:18.30 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* I figured it was kind of magic blizz was doing. Bleh. Having to set up a bunch of stuff twice is rather obnoxious. |
| 21:18.44 | alestane | NightHawkTheSane: The action slots are swapped on Blizzard's end. You'd have to set the buttons to contain direct references to spells, items or macros to avoid having them switched. |
| 21:18.54 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: that was it, danke. |
| 21:18.55 | Tuller | (use macaroon) |
| 21:18.56 | Lukian | NightHawkTheSane, Agreed :/ |
| 21:19.05 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, I gathered that now, thanks guys :) |
| 21:19.34 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, to hell with macaroon. |
| 21:19.35 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: i think people are using /usetalents [spec:1] 2; [spec:2] 1 |
| 21:19.41 | Teomyr | This would be easier to test if it didn't cost 1000g |
| 21:19.51 | Dashkal | That's much simpler than the macro currently on wowwiki |
| 21:19.59 | Arrowmaster | if you can find some items with icons that have the number 1 and 2 on them you could make a macro that switches icons too |
| 21:20.44 | Arrowmaster | Teomyr: are you using macaroon? |
| 21:21.13 | Teomyr | Arrowmaster, i'm currently experimenting with bartender, haven't finalized my choice |
| 21:21.30 | Arrowmaster | bartender will swap them when you change talents |
| 21:22.26 | Teomyr | good to hear :) |
| 21:24.07 | Teomyr | thanks for the help everyone |
| 21:24.23 | Tewan | funny enough, XBMC is my primary music/video player |
| 21:24.31 | Tewan | bah, wrong channel |
| 21:24.37 | Tewan | always switches here for some reason |
| 21:29.31 | Etanol | ~wowmatrix |
| 21:29.32 | purl | ACTION stabs wowmatrix with an icicle made from the frozen tears of lazy users, or dodge this! |
| 21:30.24 | jnwhiteh | Praid does have an aggro indicator |
| 21:30.27 | jnwhiteh | its just the old aggro indicator |
| 21:30.31 | jnwhiteh | the new system would be trivial to add |
| 21:30.32 | jnwhiteh | i've just lacked time |
| 21:33.13 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I apologize for saying it didn't. I was only thinking of the new indicators from 3.0. |
| 21:33.22 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
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| 21:33.24 | jnwhiteh | i didn't see you say anything |
| 21:33.28 | jnwhiteh | was just responding to the question :P |
| 21:35.16 | KarlKFI | wtb red glow <3 |
| 21:35.47 | Etanol | haha |
| 21:36.03 | Tuller | i'm trying to somehow validate not absolutely despising wowmatrix if they play nice, and having pulled my stuff from wowui |
| 21:36.07 | Etanol | the "WHY IS WM BLOCKED" aggro from stupid users is just hilarious |
| 21:36.37 | Tuller | quick, someone write a gcode/git spider! |
| 21:36.44 | Shadowed | I'd never add something to WM, because the users are all whiny and stupid |
| 21:36.52 | Shadowed | who keep complaining that they can't one button update |
| 21:37.10 | Tuller | well, I think all updaters are more or less evil |
| 21:37.10 | Dagmar | They need a natural predator |
| 21:37.11 | Etanol | well pit |
| 21:37.13 | Etanol | put |
| 21:37.14 | Shadowed | that too |
| 21:37.23 | Shadowed | but WM is more evil than most |
| 21:37.29 | Dagmar | If there was some force working to keep their numbers down, there would be less complaining |
| 21:37.58 | kneeki | Well, that's lame... |
| 21:38.01 | Shadowed | we could kill them off |
| 21:38.02 | Shadowed | one by one |
| 21:38.17 | Dagmar | That would take too long |
| 21:38.24 | NightHawkTheSane | genocide is the only answer. |
| 21:38.31 | Tuller | I blame wowace :P |
| 21:38.45 | Dagmar | We need to convince all the kiddies that the emo kids are the coolest because they kill themselves |
| 21:38.46 | Shadowed | who came up with WAU, we can burn them at a stake to solve it |
| 21:38.50 | AckisWork | Tuller: your stuff is still on WM... combuctor was on there earlier today |
| 21:38.51 | kneeki | I made '## LoadOnDemand: 1' in Carbonite's .toc file, and made my own little addon to load carbonite after a /command, and after the addon is loaded, Carbonite throws errors =( |
| 21:39.06 | Shadowed | it's on WM, or it's on WM and downloadable |
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| 21:39.24 | AckisWork | WM and downloadable i beleive |
| 21:39.26 | Tuller | Ackis I know, and don't terribly care too much |
| 21:39.30 | kneeki | And the errors arn't exactly easy to decode, as the addon authors did some crazy code jumbling |
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| 21:39.42 | Tuller | as long as they're no longer pulling from curse/wowi, then its fine to me |
| 21:39.43 | Shadowed | Carbonite code is still semi-obfuscated so yea |
| 21:39.47 | ScytheBlade1 | .. whoa. had a transparent mental replace of "Carbonite" with "WoW Matrix" and got VERY confused for a moment there |
| 21:39.48 | kneeki | mhmm |
| 21:40.13 | Shadowed | but the code is fairly messy in general since it's all in a single file |
| 21:40.20 | Lunessa | Tuller: I have an answer for you - The answer is "convenience." Why should you bother uploading to yet another site if you don't want to? |
| 21:40.28 | Arrowmaster | kneeki: addons have to be programmed specificly to be loaded on demand usually |
| 21:40.39 | kneeki | Arrowmaster: Oh? Lame! |
| 21:40.41 | Tuller | Lunessa: well in this case, I've not uploaded to them, so they're the equivalent of the million chinese sitese :P |
| 21:41.09 | AckisWork | Tuller: billions you mean? :P |
| 21:41.10 | Tuller | hey nice, i'm on softpedia somehow |
| 21:41.14 | Lunessa | Tuller: /agree - and don't you use GoogleCode as a repository anyway? |
| 21:41.19 | Shadowed | I've got some addons on Fileplanet as well |
| 21:41.26 | Tuller | Lunessa: right |
| 21:41.34 | Shadowed | still not sure why someone did that |
| 21:41.50 | Tuller | I have three addons on mac.softpedia :P |
| 21:41.57 | Lunessa | So if they really wanted to, they could pull from GoogleCode and you wouldn't give a rats ass, so for you, the issue is moot. |
| 21:42.05 | Tuller | right |
| 21:42.15 | Arrowmaster | kneeki: with addons use something like an ace framework they will usually work anyway since the framework is ment to work for either |
| 21:42.15 | Tuller | if they pull off of places without the site's wishes, then I dislike them |
| 21:42.18 | Lunessa | Which is perfectly ok. :) |
| 21:42.28 | Shadowed | how much do you really have to do to make an addon work with LOD |
| 21:42.37 | Shadowed | I can't think of much for most cases, beyond ADDON_LOADED instead of VL |
| 21:42.38 | Tuller | Lunessa: i'd still rather it be "opt in" |
| 21:42.43 | Lunessa | probably owes Tuller bacon and cheese. |
| 21:42.43 | Arrowmaster | well you have to not use VARIBALBES_LOADED |
| 21:42.56 | Arrowmaster | or use PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 21:43.01 | Tuller | I dislike bacon, yet i eat it every other day |
| 21:43.03 | Shadowed | huh |
| 21:43.05 | Shadowed | thats interesting |
| 21:43.06 | Arrowmaster | or PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 21:43.13 | Lunessa | Tuller: /agree - I always prefer "opt in" to "opt out" |
| 21:43.16 | Shadowed | I didn't realize WoWMatrix showed donations for authors, even if they weren't letting you download that addon |
| 21:43.22 | Shadowed | clever of them |
| 21:43.37 | Lunessa | But ... but your .sig used to say "Bacon is a cheese"! |
| 21:43.39 | Shadowed | especially because it says that the donation came from WM specifically |
| 21:43.40 | Tuller | its seemingly the correct donation link |
| 21:43.44 | Shadowed | yea it is |
| 21:43.44 | Tuller | Lunessa: yes, yes it does |
| 21:43.58 | Arrowmaster | Tuller: its a good thing you dont release updates often, otherwise you would be in support hell since wowmatrix is mirroring your addons |
| 21:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Tuller probably just ignores users anyway. |
| 21:44.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Ignoring users is the way to go |
| 21:44.52 | Tuller | its basically: get to my issue tracker, and I pay more attention to you |
| 21:44.57 | Tuller | I check wowi + curse comments daily |
| 21:45.09 | Tuller | I really wish I had emails when people post to the wowi issue tracker |
| 21:45.26 | Shadowed | setup an RSS feed |
| 21:45.35 | Tuller | that requires me checking it :P |
| 21:45.45 | Arrowmaster | do you have curse pointing to your gcode issues tracker? |
| 21:45.51 | Tuller | yep |
| 21:45.53 | Shadowed | I've got iGoogle as my home page, and setup google reader to pull from the RSS :p |
| 21:46.05 | Shadowed | works decently in place of email |
| 21:46.25 | Lunessa | Now hold on a second.. Tuller has never ignored me, and has in fact, offered me support right here in this channel and on his WoWI comments section. :P |
| 21:47.22 | Lunessa | I've been using OmniCC, Domnions (Bongos previously) and Baganon Forver Tooltips for like... forever. |
| 21:48.27 | Arrowmaster | lol "That, and Dominos is secretly a fan update of Bartender." |
| 21:49.22 | alestane | Dominions sound like elemental carrier particles of lordship. |
| 21:49.34 | alestane | Domnions, rather. |
| 21:50.44 | Arrowmaster | Tuller: you have been rather lucky though with people not making fan updates or modifing it and put it in ui packs though |
| 21:51.01 | Tuller | people stick dominos in ui packs a lot, |
| 21:51.05 | Tuller | and mazzle used bongos |
| 21:51.23 | Arrowmaster | did they modifiy them though? |
| 21:51.24 | Tuller | its really a question of me not updating for months at a time |
| 21:51.33 | Tuller | bongos in mazzle was heavily modded |
| 21:52.00 | Arrowmaster | wasnt everything? |
| 21:52.14 | Tuller | I have no idea, never used it :P |
| 21:52.25 | Arrowmaster | neither did i |
| 21:52.31 | Tuller | there was a fan update of vbagnon after I cancelled the project |
| 21:52.35 | Tuller | which I was actually happy to see |
| 21:53.05 | Tuller | but otherwise, the biggest support problems I've ever had are addon conflicts |
| 21:53.15 | Tuller | and of those, the issue is usually, "you're running skinner" |
| 21:53.25 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 21:53.26 | Tuller | I had a couple of wowmatrix bad installs once |
| 21:53.46 | Lunessa | Dominos worked on patch day with no update. I did however update once I saw I was 3 revs behind. |
| 21:53.47 | Tuller | but saying, "I don't support wowmatrix" usually takes care of that |
| 21:53.48 | jnwhiteh | LH or TomTom avail on wowmatrix yet? |
| 21:53.49 | jnwhiteh | hope not =) |
| 21:54.14 | Shadowed | most addons are flagged as "Complain because they are on WoWI/ |
| 21:54.16 | Shadowed | Curse |
| 21:54.20 | Tuller | yeah |
| 21:54.25 | Tuller | I know ninja panel is :P |
| 21:54.44 | Arrowmaster | they actually put that message in? |
| 21:54.48 | Shadowed | yea |
| 21:54.49 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 21:55.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And added that if the addon is GPL/BSD/etc licensed |
| 21:55.03 | Shadowed | The owners of WoWI/Curse have decided to not allow third party updaters, as we respect there wishes blah blah blah |
| 21:55.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont see why anybody would be against their addons being on wowmatrix </sarcasm> |
| 21:55.14 | ScytheBlade1 | To e-mail them and that they would host it instead of scraping WoWI/Curse |
| 21:55.39 | AckisWork | had a post like that |
| 21:55.46 | Arrowmaster | are they still hosting cartographer and pitbull> |
| 21:55.48 | Shadowed | although they still have to be doing some sort of scrapping I'd imagine |
| 21:55.55 | Shadowed | given they are pulling out donation emails |
| 21:56.04 | Arrowmaster | oh they are? |
| 21:56.07 | AckisWork | Arrowmaster: cartographer yes and fubar |
| 21:56.15 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: versions? |
| 21:56.20 | Exawatt | Is there a reason for the following: "getglobal(this:GetName())" ? Isn't it just as easy to use "this" ? |
| 21:56.27 | AckisWork | not sure, ckknight said it was a bit old |
| 21:56.43 | Arrowmaster | last i saw it was 2.5.1 of cart |
| 21:56.57 | alestane | Exawatt: In most cases, yes, but rather incidentally. |
| 21:57.10 | Taroven | Exawatt: Shouldn't need to use getglobal there. |
| 21:57.13 | alestane | Avoid using the word "this" in any cases. |
| 21:57.30 | Arrowmaster | seems they noticed the license change and decided to host the old versions and instead harm users rather than respecting the author |
| 21:57.42 | Exawatt | alestane: And use what instead? "self"? |
| 21:57.49 | Taroven | That's pretty screwed up, Arrowmaster. |
| 21:57.54 | ckknight | yea, it's lame |
| 21:57.56 | Tuller | also question: |
| 21:58.04 | Tuller | is someone working on a profile addon for specs |
| 21:58.04 | ckknight | I've already gotten two emails from bullshit WowMatrix people |
| 21:58.06 | Tuller | and if so, why not :P |
| 21:58.11 | ckknight | about it not being up-to-date |
| 21:58.29 | Shadowed | hmm, WM is going to start pulling from SVN apparently? |
| 21:58.29 | alestane | Where possible. "this" is a global, whereas the first parameter of a frame script is a local reference to the frame and much safer. |
| 21:58.40 | Shadowed | unless this guy is making stuff up, which is possible |
| 21:58.47 | Taroven | I believe there was some work being done on that, Tuller... lemme see if I can find it |
| 21:58.49 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: make the top of the cartographer page say 'WOWMATRIX DOES NOT HAVE THE MOST RECENT VERSION' |
| 21:59.05 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: irrelevant, wowmatrix people don't go on curse. |
| 21:59.08 | alestane | It's called "self" intrinsically only within XML scripts or methods declared using Object:Method() syntax. |
| 21:59.31 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: yeah but then you can just point them to the curse page |
| 21:59.47 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: and it would make others aware of the douchbagery |
| 21:59.55 | ckknight | hmm |
| 21:59.57 | Lunessa | Tuller: Someone did an "AddOn" profiler tool, which could be akin to what you're asking about, but I can't recall it's name. |
| 21:59.57 | ckknight | true |
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| 22:02.02 | kneeki | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=129343#post129343 |
| 22:02.04 | kneeki | =( |
| 22:02.32 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 22:03.08 | kneeki | I wonder if I'll even get a responce |
| 22:03.22 | Taroven | Maybe. *shrug* |
| 22:06.17 | AckisWork | hmm I should make my goal for a day to keep everything on topic, but somehow bring WM into the forum thread |
| 22:07.40 | tlund | is there an event on login that fires after ADDON_LOADED that i can hook? |
| 22:08.01 | kamdis | has stopped reading any thread with "kaelten" "curse" "wowinterface" or "wowmatrix" in the title. |
| 22:08.08 | Taroven | Yeah, PLAYER_ALIVE and PLAYER_LOGIN are what I use |
| 22:08.12 | Arrowmaster | tlund: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:08.26 | Thunder_Child | has stopped reading kamdis |
| 22:08.31 | tlund | Arrowmaster: there is this addon that init itself in ADDON_LOADED, and i want to do things with his frames. |
| 22:09.16 | alestane | tlund: multiples ADDON-LOADED events fire during load. |
| 22:09.17 | kamdis | Thunder_Child :-( |
| 22:09.27 | Taroven | tlund: http://wowui.pastey.net/112728 |
| 22:09.45 | Arrowmaster | tlund: make the addon a dependancy of yours |
| 22:09.52 | Taroven | Or do that. |
| 22:10.10 | Arrowmaster | or optional dependancy and check if the addon has been loaded before you try to modify it |
| 22:10.14 | alestane | kamdis: I still keep hoping Nathan Fillion will go "Why we still talking about this?" and walk away. |
| 22:10.40 | Arrowmaster | alestane: LOL |
| 22:10.49 | Arrowmaster | new castle tonight! |
| 22:10.56 | alestane | I'm glad someone thought it was funny. |
| 22:12.29 | kamdis | alestane: hehe, indeed |
| 22:12.31 | AckisWork | ponders. |
| 22:12.41 | kamdis | also, nathan fillion <3333333333333333333333333 |
| 22:12.55 | AckisWork | is he hot? |
| 22:13.59 | alestane | Mal Reynolds from Firefly. Up to you what you think. |
| 22:13.59 | AckisWork | I didn't watch firefly |
| 22:13.59 | kamdis | well, not in the conventional "omg he's hot" way. but in most ways, yes. |
| 22:14.09 | alestane | I have always loved that moment where he tells Simon, "You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?" |
| 22:14.20 | Kirov | Nathan Fillon |
| 22:14.21 | kamdis | very much so |
| 22:14.34 | alestane | He just makes it sound so blatantly stupidly obvious. |
| 22:14.42 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: you need to fix thaqt. |
| 22:14.45 | Zhinjio | -q |
| 22:14.57 | AckisWork | me watching firefly? meh |
| 22:15.01 | kamdis | firefly was very good :) |
| 22:15.11 | alestane | Kirov: You are correct, it's Fillon. |
| 22:15.27 | alestane | Actually, no, it is Fillion. |
| 22:15.38 | Kirov | Fillion |
| 22:15.45 | alestane | I misread the wiki page, which apparently corrected my spelling. |
| 22:16.05 | kamdis | apparently there's going to be a Dr. horrible movie? |
| 22:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ... that could be awesome |
| 22:16.43 | kamdis | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303461/news#ni0750994 if you believe imdb ... |
| 22:16.49 | Kaelten | kamdis: :P |
| 22:17.11 | Tuller | someone recommend me a good times external hd |
| 22:17.29 | kamdis | It all pisses me off too much, kaelten. Especially when good people get thrown to the wolves for no reason. |
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| 22:17.40 | kamdis | no good reason, that is |
| 22:17.49 | kamdis | so much personal hate. |
| 22:17.49 | Kaelten | I've tried not to throw any good people under the bufs |
| 22:17.51 | kamdis | :( |
| 22:17.51 | Kaelten | bus* |
| 22:18.00 | kamdis | I meant you getting thrown |
| 22:18.02 | kamdis | :P |
| 22:19.11 | theorbtwo | A sequel could take any form doesn't mean that it will happen at all. |
| 22:19.16 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:19.18 | Kaelten | thanks man |
| 22:19.47 | AckisWork | Cairenn: I have an important announcement that needs stickying: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=22591 |
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| 22:20.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:20.22 | AckisWork | the discrepancies are terrible! |
| 22:20.22 | AckisWork | (actually sent that in to blizzard btw) |
| 22:20.31 | Cairenn | hehehe, cool |
| 22:21.17 | Cairenn | that's hilarious Ackis |
| 22:21.27 | Cairenn | (just finished reading all of it) |
| 22:21.46 | AckisWork | they actually gave me my entry fee |
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| 22:23.29 | nicoli_s | id love to live in canada |
| 22:23.36 | Lunessa | Tuller: The "Personal Book" drives are pretty nice. |
| 22:24.02 | Tuller | my books, you mean? |
| 22:24.28 | AckisWork | nicoli_s: big country, lots of room |
| 22:25.23 | nicoli_s | and lots of freedoms too |
| 22:25.41 | Lunessa | Tuller: No, that's a brand name external drive (USB) up to Terrabyte size. |
| 22:25.52 | nicoli_s | i saw some awesome documentary about how canda legalized gay marriage and weed at almost exactly the same time |
| 22:26.02 | AckisWork | ... |
| 22:26.03 | Lunessa | Oh, NM... I reread your commment. |
| 22:26.13 | AckisWork | ~lart nicoli_s |
| 22:26.13 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides nicoli_s with the sea of tranquility |
| 22:26.29 | nicoli_s | is that good or bad? |
| 22:26.52 | Dashkal | legalized weed? not that I heard... |
| 22:27.02 | Dagmar | Lunessa: tera |
| 22:27.43 | nicoli_s | well they semi legalized it |
| 22:27.49 | nicoli_s | people thought it was |
| 22:27.58 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Meh, did I mention I'm a terrible typist? |
| 22:28.35 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I figured I'd just mention that it's got one 'r' and leave it at that |
| 22:29.47 | Tuller | my worry about the WD drives is that the usb controller on them seems prone to failure |
| 22:30.03 | Tuller | crazy me wants to buy a NAS |
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| 22:35.46 | Taroven | Is there an easy way to tell if mp5 is currently using casting/not casting values? |
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| 22:38.14 | theorbtwo | Listen for PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED and PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED, I think. |
| 22:38.20 | theorbtwo | That might be health only, though. |
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| 22:39.06 | Taroven | Nope, that's combat entry/exit |
| 22:39.35 | Cairenn | Ackis: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=129366#post129366 |
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| 22:47.04 | Esamynn | theorbtwo: yes, that is health only |
| 22:47.36 | Esamynn | Taroven: no, not really, you'd need to track regen rates (and look for a jump/decline), or you could try timing how long since the last SPELLCASTING_STOP event |
| 22:49.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn: you'd have to check more than that, i think you leave ooc regen when starting to cast a channeled spell as well |
| 22:49.57 | Esamynn | yah, I think you're right, the timer does start up then as well :/ |
| 22:50.03 | Taroven | You leave ooc regen whenever using mana, really. |
| 22:50.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 22:50.33 | NightHawkTheSane | casting a spell with no mana cost (for any reason) won't trigger the 5sr generally |
| 22:50.34 | Esamynn | though I think you get a Spellcast_stop at the start of channeling, although maybe only for some spells... |
| 22:50.39 | Esamynn | yup |
| 22:51.05 | Taroven | I'll just do without tracking which regen state is active |
| 22:51.21 | Taroven | Not a huge deal, just a little addition I'm making to Clobber. |
| 22:51.55 | NightHawkTheSane | there used to be a fubar plugin that did 5sr calculations, you might look at that. |
| 22:52.04 | NightHawkTheSane | (no idea what it was called, though) |
| 22:52.20 | Taroven | I remember it, wasn't that accurate. =\ |
| 22:52.28 | Taroven | Guess it's hard to track |
| 22:52.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 22:53.01 | Taroven | There's a lot of things to watch for when trying to determine regen state... |
| 22:53.25 | Taroven | Mana loss is the big one, but that fails when getting manaburned |
| 22:53.59 | mikma | [01:52:45] [T] [Ælk]: I need one enchanting for [Enchantement: Ench. de bouclier (Intelligence supérieure)] 5gold of com |
| 22:54.01 | Esamynn | how so? |
| 22:54.05 | Esamynn | oh, nm |
| 22:54.11 | Lunessa | "And naturally, the next words to come out of a someone's mouth after "don't tase me, bro" are probably going to be "Aaowwwgh!"" |
| 22:54.20 | Taroven | XD |
| 22:54.28 | Esamynn | O_o |
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| 22:55.13 | Dashkal | For those depending on using dual specs to buff and switch: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/16473969843-the-mage-secret.html Yep, it's going bye-bye |
| 22:55.38 | Esamynn | heh |
| 22:55.46 | Esamynn | they stated that long ago |
| 22:55.47 | Taroven | I noticed that already when switching specs yesterday |
| 22:56.02 | Taroven | GotW poofed from the group when I went feral. |
| 22:56.07 | Taroven | Was a little annoying |
| 22:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | no real surprise |
| 22:58.17 | Taroven | Yeah, not a huge deal |
| 22:58.33 | Pneumatus | ping Cairenn |
| 22:58.41 | Cairenn | Pneumatus: pong |
| 22:59.18 | Pneumatus | Cairenn: subscription emails from wowi are coming out malformed making spamassassin etc moan, they are being given 2x Content-Type and 2x From headers |
| 22:59.30 | Cairenn | Dolby: ^^ |
| 22:59.56 | Cairenn | Pneumatus: thank you for the heads up, Dolby may have some questions for you on what you are seeing |
| 23:00.00 | Cairenn | :) |
| 23:00.04 | Pneumatus | it's not enough to get them nuked by default setup, but possibly worth looking at |
| 23:04.53 | Kirov | Taroven - Group buffs (like gift / AB) will get cleared when you switch, but single target buffs don't (ie: AI, Focus Magic) |
| 23:05.18 | Taroven | Yup Kirov |
| 23:05.34 | Taroven | Did a little testing after I found that GotW was poofing |
| 23:05.51 | Kirov | There are 4 mages in our guild atm. |
| 23:06.02 | Kirov | Two arcane, one Frostfire, and me |
| 23:06.51 | Kirov | Humorously, I was over stacked on hit in 3.0, so my gear is ass for arcane or frostfire in 3.1, but it's perfect for Fire. The one frostfire mage who in 3.0 never had enough hit now has exactly the right ammount. |
| 23:06.59 | Lunessa | There are 4 mages in my guild. None are 80, and 3 are alts of people playing something else normally. |
| 23:08.46 | Kirov | Three of us (one of each spec) are pretty much equal in dps. Me and the arcane mage buffing eachother w/ Focus Magic, and the other arcane mage buffing the Frostfire mage. The second arcane mage does 2k dps ... |
| 23:08.58 | Kirov | Not sure why we keep him, or why he went arcane. |
| 23:09.16 | Kirov | He's got almost exactly the same gear as the Frostfire mage who's usually top damage. |
| 23:10.45 | Dagmar | It's not a voluntary choice, it's the way he was born |
| 23:13.11 | Taroven | How my fairly fresh 80 rogue vastly outdps's some people in full t7 is beyond me, but it happens. |
| 23:17.37 | Seerah | I <3 u Ackis |
| 23:18.13 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=129355#post129355 if you haven't read |
| 23:18.58 | Lunessa | Kirov: I feel your pain. I'm busting my chops and working HARD as an enhancement shaman to hit 2.5- 3.5 K DPS in raids, and Ret Paladins in equal quality gear are doing 1K + more than me. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. :( |
| 23:20.29 | Corrodias | you're playing WoW. |
| 23:20.33 | Corrodias | ;D |
| 23:20.42 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:21.28 | Lunessa | Corrodias: .... /concede |
| 23:22.44 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i have the same issue with my mage |
| 23:25.07 | Lunessa | I suppose, what I really need, is ... more cowbell. |
| 23:29.11 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/polls/are-you-sad-that-arl-will-not-be-on-wow-matrix/ |
| 23:30.49 | Thunder_Child | ARL? |
| 23:31.00 | Ackis | @project arl |
| 23:31.01 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), ananhaid (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Dessa (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator), Pneumatus (Translator), Primaxina (Translator), Swix (Translator). Updated: 2 hours ago. Tickets: 11/491 |
| 23:31.13 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 23:31.31 | Ackis | l2acronym |
| 23:31.33 | Ackis | ~arl |
| 23:31.34 | purl | i guess arl is a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 92% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them. It will work on Wrath of the Lich King beta servers as well. |
| 23:31.45 | malreth | hey... good choice on having the 'douche' option |
| 23:31.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://notalwaysright.com/how-to-scam-a-scammer-part-6/1838 |
| 23:33.20 | Ackis | malreth: yah everyone wants to vote that option |
| 23:33.50 | NightHawkTheSane | but there's no.. "No, but Ackis is still a douche" option.. |
| 23:34.00 | kd3 | oh whee. two free talent resets in a row |
| 23:34.03 | kd3 | yay bugs |
| 23:34.17 | Ackis | NightHawkTheSane: that'll be the next poll: is ackis a douche: yes, I like bunnies |
| 23:34.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: haha |
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| 23:34.43 | mikma | ackis: WHYYYYYYY wont it be in WM? what have you done?! |
| 23:35.07 | Ackis | :( |
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| 23:42.14 | Ackis | ~wownpc 33603 |
| 23:42.15 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=33603 http://www.wowdb.com/npc.aspx?id=33603 |
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| 23:51.43 | End | suggestion for vent servers |
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| 23:52.08 | mikma | None |
| 23:52.12 | mikma | usd game builtin |
| 23:52.16 | mikma | use* |
| 23:59.35 | Adys_ | hahahah |
| 23:59.43 | Adys | found some old shots from the bwl days |
