| 00:01.19 | Shirik | the way the talent reads, Thunder_Child, yes |
| 00:01.23 | Shirik | does it actually work that way, I don't know |
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| 00:02.57 | Thunder_Child | hmm.. |
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| 00:03.10 | Hati | hi |
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| 00:04.02 | Hati | some1 knows if theres an API Event fired when ppl switch their spec ? (1->2->1) |
| 00:05.43 | Shirik | There is |
| 00:05.53 | Shirik | it's something like TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED |
| 00:06.46 | Shirik | that's entirely off memory and I've never used it |
| 00:06.46 | Shirik | but look for something like that |
| 00:06.46 | Hati | ah k thx |
| 00:06.47 | Cloudwolf | ~api TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED |
| 00:06.48 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED |
| 00:07.10 | Cloudwolf | ignore that |
| 00:07.29 | Hati | kk ^^ |
| 00:11.11 | Hati | hmpf |
| 00:12.30 | Cloudwolf | hati |
| 00:12.32 | Cloudwolf | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443405133&sid=1 |
| 00:12.37 | Cloudwolf | see if you can find anything close to it |
| 00:12.44 | Cloudwolf | im not sure if its in there >.> |
| 00:13.13 | Cloudwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.15 | Cloudwolf | ? |
| 00:13.56 | Hati | with that i could create my own "event" |
| 00:14.12 | Hati | but i would prefer to use an already existing ^^ |
| 00:16.57 | theorb | Hm, surprising. http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(Full_List) doesn't list an event for "learned a talent". |
| 00:18.11 | Hati | yea |
| 00:18.21 | foxlit | The events listing at wowwiki should probably come with a very string "incomplete" label |
| 00:18.42 | Hati | isn't there a simple event tracker for wow? |
| 00:18.50 | Hati | which is without entering the event name ? |
| 00:19.20 | foxlit | You can register for all events |
| 00:19.33 | foxlit | Then print out their names to see whether you find something that looks like what you want |
| 00:20.30 | theorb | Where would you look? |
| 00:20.41 | theorb | is pretty new, and doesn't know what resources are best. |
| 00:21.05 | Hati | i think thats what i gonna do ... write simple addon ... and then just swap my talent trees |
| 00:27.59 | Hati | hum oO |
| 00:28.12 | Kraftman | ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED |
| 00:28.19 | Hati | argh |
| 00:28.20 | Hati | k |
| 00:29.04 | Hati | are you sure about it? |
| 00:29.27 | Kraftman | nope >< |
| 00:30.00 | Kraftman | its on wowprogramming, which i beleive scrapes the events from wow |
| 00:30.35 | Hati | gonna test |
| 00:32.12 | Hati | ah k |
| 00:32.21 | Hati | arg1 = last talent_group |
| 00:32.26 | Hati | arg2 = now current |
| 00:32.31 | Hati | thansk |
| 00:32.32 | Hati | thanks* |
| 00:32.33 | Hati | :) |
| 00:32.54 | Kraftman | np :) |
| 00:33.17 | Kraftman | i had no idea existed, so we've all learnt something ^^ |
| 00:33.40 | Hati | just need it for my cd buttons >.< |
| 00:33.47 | Hati | all the time getting errors if swapping |
| 00:38.37 | Hati | umh |
| 00:38.40 | Hati | kraftman? |
| 00:38.47 | Hati | for i,v in ipairs(f.spell_list[f.curTalentGroup]) |
| 00:38.51 | Hati | do things like this work oO? |
| 00:39.12 | Hati | or some1 else know ^^? |
| 00:39.15 | Kraftman | hides |
| 00:39.29 | Hati | :O |
| 00:39.39 | Kraftman | depends what f.spell_list[f.curTalentGroup] is |
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| 00:41.21 | Hati | f.spell_list => table with the spellids inserted i want to track cds off - now that i have to track 2 specs - i've added a new subtable |
| 00:41.28 | Hati | f.curTalentGroup => number |
| 00:44.52 | Kraftman | hmm |
| 00:44.56 | Kraftman | pastey the function? |
| 00:45.28 | Hati | uhm mom |
| 00:45.29 | Hati | pastebin |
| 00:46.08 | Kraftman | http://hati.pastey.net |
| 00:48.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha. A former guildie just learned that guilds he is apping too have been talking to me.. even though I quit. |
| 00:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | cackles |
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| 01:01.59 | tekkub | so fun times... |
| 01:02.11 | tekkub | it looks like if you jump into water while mounted, you take fall damage |
| 01:02.25 | tekkub | so, leaving UK... both our DKs die on the jump |
| 01:02.28 | tekkub | PAYBACK! |
| 01:02.30 | NeoTron | so windows is supposed to defrag automatically on a weeokly schedule... and now I start an app defragger that tells me my main drive is 70% fragmented |
| 01:02.34 | NeoTron | ftw |
| 01:03.01 | tekkub | so rez em, go outside, get to the big stairs at the door, dk mounts up, runs, jumps out of habit... dies for the fall |
| 01:03.07 | tekkub | *from |
| 01:12.13 | NeoTron | I don't understand why Vista insists on fragmenting files heavily (for newly installed apps) when there's 70% free space on the disk |
| 01:13.21 | MentalPower | preventive? |
| 01:15.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It doesn't |
| 01:16.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Any file which is in fragments larger than 64MB will spend less than 0.1% of the time seeking |
| 01:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | So if say, your patch.mpq is in 300 64MB fragments, sure at face value that looks like a problem, but it really isn't |
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| 01:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be one large patch.mpq but you get the idea |
| 01:18.41 | foxlit | Hm, looking at writing a few hundred lines of code that'd control the behavior of around 0.3 seconds :/ |
| 01:19.27 | ScytheBlade1 | lua>1142/64 |
| 01:19.27 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: 17.84375 |
| 01:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ~17 fragments would still 'look' bad, yeah |
| 01:25.50 | Wobin | hehe |
| 01:25.51 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmkLlVzUBn4 |
| 01:26.07 | Wobin | as one of my friends put it "Totally awesome, until I threw up" ^ |
| 01:26.19 | Wobin | of course, she does suffer from motion sickness at times =) |
| 01:33.15 | Gnarfoz | man that vid is crazy |
| 01:36.34 | Elly | do UNIT_MANA events not fire every time mana changes? I notice that the builtin mana bar updates once every time I regain mana out of combat, but my frame only gets an event about every 5 points of mana regained |
| 01:37.26 | Kraftman | Wobin: have you seen tony vs paul? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzU3NjDikY |
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| 01:39.13 | Elly | do I actually need to hook OnUpdate for the default bar or something? :puzzled: |
| 01:44.18 | Wobin | Kraftman: yeah =) |
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| 01:44.25 | Kraftman | :) |
| 01:44.28 | Wobin | hm, newer nvidia driver |
| 01:44.30 | Wobin | installs |
| 01:44.45 | Kraftman | installs |
| 01:44.50 | Kraftman | crashes |
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| 01:49.43 | Arrowmaster | Elly: you dont need to 'hook' onupdate, but yes the default ui uses an onupdate to refresh the values |
| 01:50.54 | foxlit | lua> t = {[0]="foo", "bar", "baz"} for i,v in ipairs(t) do print(v); end |
| 01:50.55 | lua_bot | foxlit: bar, baz |
| 01:50.58 | foxlit | lua> t = {[2]="foo", "bar", "baz"} for i,v in ipairs(t) do print(v); end |
| 01:50.59 | lua_bot | foxlit: bar, baz |
| 01:52.15 | Hati | baba |
| 01:52.18 | Hati | thanks for help :O |
| 01:53.02 | Elly | Arrowmaster: yikes, OnUpdate is called once per frame though. Why is UNIT_MANA not called as often as mana changes? |
| 01:53.38 | Shirik | Elly, that's not as bad as you make it sound |
| 01:54.22 | foxlit | because mana changes are continious |
| 01:54.22 | Elly | hm? |
| 01:54.36 | foxlit | Rather than discrete |
| 01:54.39 | Elly | Shirik: once per frame seems "too often" to me |
| 01:54.46 | Shirik | then don't do it once a frame |
| 01:54.48 | Elly | foxlit: but mana is a discrete quantity |
| 01:54.51 | Shirik | do it once every 4 |
| 01:55.02 | Elly | Shirik: but then the mana bar doesn't track the player's actual quantity of mana :\ |
| 01:55.07 | Shirik | Elly: The client interpolates in between server |
| 01:55.12 | Elly | oh! |
| 01:55.26 | Shirik | you can actually turn that functionality off |
| 01:55.35 | Elly | okay, that makes more sense |
| 01:55.44 | foxlit | (but since the server does it as well, you'd only be hurting yourself) |
| 01:55.52 | Elly | and that explains why UNIT_MANA doesn't happen as frequently |
| 01:56.06 | foxlit | They're bucketed. So is UNIT_HEALTH, iirc. |
| 01:56.47 | foxlit | (which healers blamed for "I totally didn't see those 23k hits -- he went 100% to 0% in zero time!") |
| 01:57.55 | Gnarfoz | someone should update Grid_QuickHealth ^^ |
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| 02:12.34 | AbsolutRayne | http://i43.tinypic.com/jl12js.jpg Not enough minerals. |
| 02:13.00 | Stanzilla | lol |
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| 02:23.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ping |
| 02:23.38 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: pong, but in Ulduar |
| 02:23.50 | ScytheBlade1 | You can answer inbetween wipes |
| 02:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | PM |
| 02:26.46 | ZorbaBeta | hey, some of that saronite isn't stacked. I call BS >:( |
| 02:28.52 | batrick | Anyone read any rootkit books and have recommendations? |
| 02:29.09 | batrick | I'm considering these two: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Rootkit-Arsenal/Bill-Blunden/e/9781598220612/?itm=1 http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Designing-BSD-Rootkits/Joseph-Kong/e/9781593271428/?itm=4 |
| 02:33.46 | AbsolutRayne | ZorbaBeta: helpskeep it in the same bag |
| 02:36.21 | Wobin | AbsolutRayne: I've converted all my saronite |
| 02:36.24 | Wobin | to arrows =P |
| 02:36.34 | Wobin | Then I sell the arrows as 1k stacks on the AH =P |
| 02:36.38 | AbsolutRayne | Wobin: Almost enough for my Chopper.:( |
| 02:36.48 | Wobin | (Cause people don't know about the Arrow Machines....) |
| 02:37.43 | mikma | choppa lol |
| 02:37.53 | mikma | i got the mats for it, not the money |
| 02:40.29 | Hirsute | Wobin: How's the arrow selling working for you? |
| 02:41.49 | dolseni | and why are you mining there rather than SB |
| 02:42.37 | mikma | cause theresx more veins in icecrown |
| 02:42.55 | dolseni | not from my experience |
| 02:43.00 | dolseni | seems like there are way less |
| 02:43.08 | mikma | stats dont lie |
| 02:43.44 | batrick | So I'm looking at the "Also By, John Erickson" list of books for this Hacker author, and it's all childrens' books. |
| 02:44.29 | Arrowmaster | batrick: there was a recent slashdot book review of a rootkit book |
| 02:44.47 | batrick | Ya I saw it, it's one of the 2 books I'm deciding between |
| 02:45.42 | Hirsute | There may be more veins there, but on my server they're much more heavily mined, so there's fewer active ones most times. |
| 02:48.48 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22381 |
| 02:49.06 | mikma | now all we need is a way to create events! huzzah |
| 02:50.08 | dolseni | Hirsute there are always a TON of people in the basin on my server, but never any problem finding ore |
| 02:50.31 | dolseni | i get double if not tripple there than i do in icecrown |
| 02:50.40 | dolseni | on my epic flying pally |
| 02:52.00 | Hirsute | dolseni: That's what I was saying, I find there are more people mining in Icecrown on my server, so I can get more ore in SB |
| 02:52.45 | dolseni | on blackrock more people mine in SB than in icecrown |
| 02:52.57 | dolseni | and i get 2x-3x the ore in SB than in icecrown |
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| 02:55.01 | Wobin | argh |
| 02:55.12 | Wobin | I can't get my monitor ordering to work properly =( |
| 02:55.20 | Hirsute | dolseni: Fair enough. |
| 02:57.37 | dolseni | and where are you getting the stats for the nodes? i seem to recall the exact opposite... that sb had more nodes than icecrown |
| 02:59.48 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, fail? |
| 02:59.59 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, windows? |
| 03:02.10 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: new nvidia drivers |
| 03:02.16 | Wobin | and now all my normal settings are futzed |
| 03:02.29 | Wobin | like, I can't set my larger monitor as the main one, to have WoW read off it |
| 03:02.36 | Thunder_Child | why not? |
| 03:02.54 | Wobin | if I knew that... I would fix it |
| 03:04.20 | Torhal | Wobin: Swap connector orders? |
| 03:04.58 | Wobin | k, I set the larger monitor as the main one |
| 03:04.58 | Thunder_Child | or swap the monitor images |
| 03:04.58 | Wobin | even if it's not responding as the main one |
| 03:05.10 | dolseni | mm i guess according to wowhead icecrown does have more nodes, but it always seems slower to mine there |
| 03:05.26 | Wobin | icecrown always had better routes than sholazar... |
| 03:05.35 | Wobin | I found |
| 03:05.44 | Wobin | but it also has more farmers |
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| 03:07.53 | dolseni | see, looking at the map SB the routes they seem more linear, rather than spread out like icecrown |
| 03:08.13 | Ackis | anyone can you get me the forum e-mail? want to QQ about suspension to see if I can get it lifted after like a year :( |
| 03:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | wowreportedpost@blizzard.com |
| 03:09.25 | Cairenn | how sad is it that you knew that right off the top of your head, sbo? |
| 03:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sad |
| 03:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Especially considering that my account has been dead for a month or two |
| 03:10.06 | Ackis | Cairenn: can I call myself a "valuable member of the modding community" or is that too much bullshit in one sentence? |
| 03:10.10 | ScytheBlade1 | (Actually I've e-mailed them a few times concerning realm trolls and have AWESOME results) |
| 03:10.12 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:10.34 | Elly | woohoo! |
| 03:10.37 | Elly | my first working UI mod :) |
| 03:10.43 | Cairenn | Elly: grats :) |
| 03:10.51 | Ackis | ~cheer elly |
| 03:10.51 | purl | Three cheers for elly! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 03:10.54 | Elly | http://p.leptoquark.net/pyxy/img/bars1.png <--- top-left |
| 03:10.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, I'm the GM of this guild. Yes, I've guilded cocky, pretentious jerks. Trick is, they know how to play. So QUIT TROLLING MY RECRUITMENT THREAD WITH CRAP EVERYONE IN TRADE KNOWS. |
| 03:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | .. *ahem* |
| 03:11.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry. |
| 03:11.18 | Shirik | goes to troll ScytheBlade1' thread |
| 03:11.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Missed an S |
| 03:11.41 | Shirik | nice counter-troll |
| 03:13.00 | Elly | now I can remove the builtin target displays and move mine up into the corner |
| 03:13.08 | Elly | also I need to condense R/C information |
| 03:13.17 | ScytheBlade1 | has actually got a response back from wowreportepost@ before! |
| 03:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Hello, |
| 03:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks for the heads up. The thread has been cleaned up. |
| 03:13.51 | ScytheBlade1 | -The World of Warcraft Community Team |
| 03:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | feels loved by anonymous forum moderators |
| 03:14.22 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: can you send my e-mail for me? |
| 03:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ... er? |
| 03:14.46 | Ackis | :D |
| 03:14.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Why would I do that? |
| 03:15.04 | Ackis | eh why the hell does it say charges used on darkmoon fair cards? =/ |
| 03:15.09 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: I'm sexy, you love me? |
| 03:15.19 | Elly | I need to figure out a nicer way to lay out the trackers than "by hand" |
| 03:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Why would that help your chances? |
| 03:15.35 | Ackis | you said they like you! |
| 03:16.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe you should just fess up to what you did, apologize, and plead |
| 03:16.23 | Ackis | did that already |
| 03:16.30 | Shirik | bop bop bop |
| 03:16.31 | Shirik | bop to the top |
| 03:16.32 | Ackis | then I called them jackasses for not unbanning me :( |
| 03:16.33 | Ackis | lol |
| 03:16.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ........... |
| 03:16.42 | Ackis | (was a joke) |
| 03:16.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 03:16.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Didn't you link goatse or lemonparty or something? |
| 03:17.11 | Ackis | possibly... |
| 03:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It was lemonparty, wasn't it? |
| 03:17.54 | Ackis | yes when I was younger, i put lemonparty in a tinyurl and linked it a few times lol... I had many luwls |
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| 03:18.01 | Ackis | but that was a different account |
| 03:18.02 | Ackis | http://paste.wowace.com/517/ |
| 03:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 03:18.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You had that one coming, didn't you? |
| 03:18.56 | Ackis | that one? no, I didn't do anything on the second account |
| 03:19.26 | Ackis | all I did was reply to a post saying "no I removed my account info, thanks for the warning" |
| 03:19.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:20.17 | Ackis | it really pissed me off because of the double standards /shrug |
| 03:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Well |
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| 03:20.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You kinda had it coming just the same |
| 03:20.54 | Ackis | nah |
| 03:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lemonparty to tinyurl is sooo unoriginal |
| 03:21.05 | Ackis | oh I got banned hardcore for that |
| 03:21.16 | Ackis | I didn't even QQ about that ban on that account :P I deserved that one |
| 03:22.14 | Ackis | nah if I actually got banned for something important on this account I wouldn't be QQing, but they banned me for something bullshittish |
| 03:22.15 | mikma | bans are always dceserved. just ask industrial |
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| 03:24.50 | mikma | i read that ban as account sharing |
| 03:25.43 | Alestane | Random question regarding bash...is there an ls option or other command that will give me the recursive breadth-first contents of a directory in the format of one absolute path per line? Or am I better off wandering over to a Linux channel? |
| 03:26.15 | kd3 | ls -r1 ? |
| 03:26.19 | mikma | alestane: man ls |
| 03:26.30 | Shirik | capital Alestane o.o |
| 03:26.43 | Alestane | mikma: have been. |
| 03:26.56 | kd3 | er. -R1 |
| 03:26.58 | Alestane | Shirik: Blame Pidgin |
| 03:27.13 | Shirik | I blame you for /using/ pidgin |
| 03:27.24 | mikma | wat |
| 03:27.31 | mikma | ~diaf shirik |
| 03:27.31 | purl | ACTION covers shirik in gas and drops a match. |
| 03:27.35 | Shirik | YES I SAID IT |
| 03:27.35 | Shirik | RAWR |
| 03:27.38 | Shirik | mirc > pidgin |
| 03:27.40 | Shirik | ooooooooooooooo |
| 03:27.40 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 03:27.44 | Shirik | huggles Gryphon |
| 03:27.47 | Gryphon | huggles Shirik |
| 03:27.50 | mikma | i use pidgin on my nokia |
| 03:28.05 | Alestane | kd3: I want each line to have an absolute path, not one line for the directory being displayed, then one for each entry in the directory. |
| 03:28.07 | mikma | its the only *good* msn program |
| 03:28.21 | Elly | Alestane: you want 'find .' |
| 03:28.40 | Elly | although that is depth-first |
| 03:29.26 | AbsolutRayne | Ok |
| 03:29.29 | AbsolutRayne | Who broke the Forums? |
| 03:29.43 | kd3 | broke? you mean they were workign? |
| 03:29.51 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: Im looking at you, sir |
| 03:30.09 | AbsolutRayne | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11243&sid=1 Tasty 500 errors |
| 03:30.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Alestane: dunno if it'd do *exactly* what you want, but: for a in `find ./`; do echo $a; done |
| 03:31.57 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 03:32.15 | Dagmar | Why the echo? |
| 03:32.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Just to demonstrate it |
| 03:34.22 | Dagmar | That'll separate the filenames if they have whitespace in them tho |
| 03:34.40 | Dagmar | Like a file named "My first textfile.txt" will wind up being three lines |
| 03:34.43 | Alestane | Well, given an format like d1: [f1 f2 d2:[f3 f4 f5] d3:[f6] ], I'd like output like: |
| 03:34.43 | Alestane | /path/d1/ |
| 03:34.43 | Alestane | /path/d1/f1 |
| 03:34.43 | Alestane | /path/d1/f2 |
| 03:34.43 | Alestane | /path/d1/d2/ |
| 03:34.43 | Alestane | /path/d1/d2/f3 |
| 03:34.45 | Alestane | /path/d1/d2/f4 |
| 03:34.47 | Alestane | /path/d1/d2/f5 |
| 03:34.49 | Alestane | /path/d1/d3/ |
| 03:34.51 | Alestane | /path/d1/d3/f6 |
| 03:34.59 | Shirik | bad Alestane |
| 03:35.19 | Alestane | And what did I do this time? |
| 03:35.30 | Shirik | made my client alert me >< |
| 03:35.54 | Shirik | so many lines at once |
| 03:36.24 | Alestane | I could probably deal with depth-first if I really need to. |
| 03:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Alestane: not sure if there is a way to do breadth-first with find |
| 03:36.51 | Dagmar | the for loop will malfunction unless you change IFS |
| 03:37.44 | Arrowmaster | Alestane: have you tried the -1 option? |
| 03:38.32 | Thunder_Child | fail Alestane, no spaming! |
| 03:39.10 | Dagmar | Ah finally found the original question |
| 03:39.12 | Alestane | I have. It doesn't work terribly well, I end up with things like |
| 03:39.12 | Alestane | /path/d1/d2: |
| 03:39.12 | Alestane | f3 |
| 03:39.12 | Alestane | f4 |
| 03:39.54 | Alestane | I suppose I could run it through a script that expands it. |
| 03:40.09 | Dagmar | Find will output one file per line all by itself, but unless you give it an absolute path as a starting point, it won't output absolute path names |
| 03:40.57 | Dagmar | If you were to do `find /path` it'll just hand you a list of fila and directory names in order with the directory first and then the files in that directory |
| 03:42.01 | Arrowmaster | Alestane: rofl you gota see this |
| 03:42.13 | Alestane | I'm afraid. |
| 03:42.56 | Arrowmaster | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112595 |
| 03:43.00 | Arrowmaster | is that what you want? |
| 03:43.09 | Arrowmaster | and yes all the f* are files |
| 03:43.23 | Arrowmaster | its exactly what you typed |
| 03:43.29 | Alestane | Basically. |
| 03:43.42 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm having trouble seeing how just plain find won't do this |
| 03:43.54 | Alestane | Except for the touch. |
| 03:44.10 | Arrowmaster | touch? |
| 03:44.25 | Alestane | Line 7 |
| 03:44.28 | Dagmar | He's probably got a file in there named 'touch' |
| 03:44.34 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 03:44.38 | Arrowmaster | how did that get in there |
| 03:45.00 | Alestane | Maybe find will be fine. I'm not quite a linux noob but I'm still learning just what all the options are. |
| 03:45.03 | Arrowmaster | arrow@warm-nutz:~/d1% mkdir d2 d3 |
| 03:45.04 | Arrowmaster | arrow@warm-nutz:~/d1% cd d2 |
| 03:45.04 | Arrowmaster | arrow@warm-nutz:~/d1/d2% mkdir touch f3 f4 f5 |
| 03:45.06 | Arrowmaster | i fail |
| 03:45.14 | Dagmar | hneh it happens |
| 03:45.40 | Alestane | dare I ask why your machine's hostname? |
| 03:45.51 | Arrowmaster | its an old laptop |
| 03:45.54 | Dagmar | I wasn't going to say anything |
| 03:46.10 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 03:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... an apt hostname |
| 03:46.53 | mikma | alestane: ls | sed "s;^;`pwd`;" .. theres a start |
| 03:47.07 | Arrowmaster | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/112596 |
| 03:47.12 | Arrowmaster | there fixed it |
| 03:47.22 | Arrowmaster | now all the f*'s really are files |
| 03:47.24 | Alestane | Looks like find is probably more in the vein I'm looking for. |
| 03:47.27 | Arrowmaster | its exactly what you asked for |
| 03:48.40 | Arrowmaster | im shocked you asked about the hostname but not the % after it instead of $ |
| 03:48.53 | Alestane | I'm trying to create a little Mac droplet that you drop add-on .zip files on and it installs them smartly into your AddOns directory...I'd like it to do things like recognize that the add-on is buried an extra folder down. |
| 03:49.04 | Dagmar | BTW, find (and pretty much everything else) can't easily convert a relative path to an absolute one because well, insane people can make hardlinks that can cause a file to have more than one absolute path (beyond just symlinks) |
| 03:49.09 | Shirik | aggggg |
| 03:49.15 | Shirik | iron council to last guy, 50% :( |
| 03:49.31 | Dagmar | Alestane: Oh... Grep the output of a test unzip |
| 03:49.58 | Dagmar | Split each line on the first / and discard the rest. Collapse the resulting list with uniq to get rid of the dupes |
| 03:49.58 | Alestane | Dagmar: I started going that way, just doing unzip -l |
| 03:50.12 | mikma | alestane: find . -type f (replace . with full path) |
| 03:50.12 | Dagmar | ...although in this case, maybe splitting on the second / |
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| 03:51.19 | Dagmar | You could also limit the depth of find and do the same thing there |
| 03:51.25 | Arrowmaster | arrow@warm-nutz:~/d1/d2% rm -rf * |
| 03:51.26 | Arrowmaster | zsh: sure you want to delete all the files in /home/arrow/d1/d2 [yn]? y |
| 03:51.29 | Arrowmaster | <3 zsh |
| 03:51.32 | Dagmar | Or hey, here's a crazy idea... Find will tell you about files only with -f |
| 03:51.39 | Alestane | I've got a pretty good script now for identifying what I need to install, but I can't unzip a subdirectory without also extracting its parent directory in the zip. So I need to unzip the whole thing to a tmp directory and selectively move things. |
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| 03:52.41 | Dagmar | er not -f -type f, sorry |
| 03:53.14 | Zyndrome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUylyRZbMOQ&fmt=18 |
| 03:53.40 | Alestane | I can probably do a find for .toc and save myself some work inside the script, so that's probably the way I'll go. |
| 03:54.04 | Dagmar | Alestane: Given /tmp/blah/badblah/foo.toc, if you are in /tmp and run `find -type -f -maxdepth 1` and get nothing, then you know there's no files |
| 03:54.15 | Dagmar | er s/-f/f/; |
| 03:54.40 | Dagmar | *facepalm* Let me just type that over... cd /tmp ; find blah -type f -maxdepth 1 |
| 03:54.54 | Alestane | But what about /tmp/addon-r78567/AddOn/AddOn.toc ? |
| 03:55.09 | Alestane | I want to install AddOn. |
| 03:55.33 | Alestane | Some zip files or unzippers end up creating an extra file hierarchy. |
| 03:55.37 | Dagmar | You'll probably need to start looking with the assumption that an addon zip might not actually have the files in a directory then |
| 03:55.59 | Dagmar | Not true, or at least none that I've seen will arbitrarily add directories |
| 03:56.19 | Arrowmaster | not sure about correcting invalid layouts but you could ask ckk how he did curseforges zip validator |
| 03:56.19 | Dagmar | Lots of Windows users like to muck it up and click "Extract to foo/" instead of just "Extract here" tho |
| 03:56.24 | Alestane | Probably not the unzipper's fault, probably the author's. |
| 03:57.15 | ckknight | if it has top-level files, it's invalid, if it lacks a toc in a sane place, it's invalid |
| 03:57.26 | Dagmar | Good enough. :) |
| 03:57.46 | Alestane | I'm just trying to make something that corrects common mistakes for the computer-illiterate, since in my experience they don't learn no matter how much you help them. |
| 03:58.19 | Alestane | Need to be social in physical presence for a while, thanks for the guidance. |
| 03:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | good luck |
| 04:20.04 | tekkub | quick, which equipment manager works best with dualspec? |
| 04:22.18 | Aqua | outfitter or closetgnome imo |
| 04:25.35 | Aqua | wtb a better way to name checkbuttons than "getglobal(this:GetName().."Text"):SetText("ACheckButton");" |
| 04:25.45 | Aqua | on my interface options panel |
| 04:27.48 | tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/tourguide/blob/28565993d6ec44a7016bdc6fe0b827e1dca96ab7/tekKonfig/tekKonfigCheckbox.lua |
| 04:27.51 | tekkub | :P |
| 04:28.13 | Shirik | Aqua: There IS a better way |
| 04:28.19 | Shirik | any time you are using "getglobal" or "this" you are doing it wrong |
| 04:28.31 | Ackis | is uploading a picture of a dead/dying hamster to facebook "bad"? |
| 04:28.43 | Aqua | hey i just used the example of wowwiki |
| 04:28.52 | Aqua | interface options is total new to me |
| 04:29.06 | Shirik | keep in mind wowwiki is out of date in a lot of places, and has a lot of bad practices |
| 04:29.12 | AbsolutRayne | Time to find someone to make my Chopper |
| 04:29.13 | Shirik | I used to try to fix it all, but gave up |
| 04:29.13 | AbsolutRayne | :D |
| 04:29.45 | Aqua | yea, but i didn't want to ask "how do i do this" in this channel when i hadn't done any research first |
| 04:30.10 | Aqua | so i did a little research and now i'm back to asking... |
| 04:31.08 | Shirik | _G[self:GetName(.."Text")]:SetText("ACheckButton"); |
| 04:31.27 | Aqua | Thank you |
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| 04:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb better wifi |
| 04:37.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 04:37.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever someone moves through the hall it drops the signal enough to break the stream =[ |
| 04:38.24 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 04:39.48 | Aqua | get an external antenna and put it higher |
| 04:40.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It's like 15 feet away |
| 04:40.25 | tekkub | get a cat5/6 and pull up the carpet |
| 04:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | linoleum |
| 04:40.49 | tekkub | duct tape |
| 04:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ... an option, sure |
| 04:41.00 | Aqua | duct tape ftw |
| 04:41.33 | tekkub | or just spot-tape it along the floorboards |
| 04:41.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Three doors inbetween the switch and me |
| 04:41.52 | Aqua | if its 15 feet away then something aint right because i set 15 feet away through a concrete block wall and i get perfect reception |
| 04:42.08 | Aqua | then again, i have a cisco aironet |
| 04:42.09 | ScytheBlade1 | It's low on power |
| 04:42.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, actual wattage |
| 04:42.35 | ScytheBlade1 | 1-2w more and everything would be great |
| 04:42.36 | Amuro | ooo tekkub hangs out here |
| 04:42.38 | Amuro | <3 ur addons man |
| 04:42.43 | Amuro | make life 100x easier :D |
| 04:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and there the stream goes again, whoo |
| 04:43.04 | Aqua | you at college? |
| 04:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | nah, home |
| 04:43.12 | Aqua | ah |
| 04:43.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The school has amazing wifi |
| 04:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty much everywhere |
| 04:43.32 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: 1-2W wtf? wifi only has mW's :p |
| 04:43.32 | Aqua | wrt54gl == best router ever made |
| 04:43.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: to the entire device |
| 04:43.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker- (i=ballmer@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 04:43.48 | Amuro | gl blows compared to original 54g |
| 04:43.51 | Amuro | like mine :) |
| 04:43.55 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: you mean... electrical? wtf++ |
| 04:43.56 | Amuro | version 2 baby |
| 04:43.58 | Amuro | best one ever |
| 04:43.58 | Aqua | yea, but you can't find those anymore |
| 04:44.00 | Aqua | new... |
| 04:44.03 | Aqua | I have 2 v2 |
| 04:44.07 | Aqua | and a GL |
| 04:44.28 | Aqua | the GL's aren't bad though, i agree completely, but you work with what you can gt |
| 04:44.30 | Aqua | *get |
| 04:44.31 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: is it like, PoE or something? why would it not simply draw as much power as it needs? :D |
| 04:44.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a VERY low power device |
| 04:44.45 | Aqua | all poe devices use the same voltage |
| 04:44.48 | ScytheBlade1 | !g soekris net4521 |
| 04:44.49 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Soekris Engineering > net4521 <http://www.soekris.com/net4521.htm> |
| 04:45.08 | Aqua | they all use 48 volt, 800 milliamps per pair, max of 1.6 amps |
| 04:45.24 | Shirik | !g LM358 |
| 04:45.24 | batbot | Shirik: LM358 - Low Power Dual Operational Amplifier <http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM358.html> |
| 04:45.33 | Aqua | 48 volt, 1.6 amps is the maximum power you'll get with 802.3af poe |
| 04:45.49 | ScytheBlade1 | It's also powering two wifi cards atm |
| 04:46.50 | ScytheBlade1 | The power supply is something like a maximum of 2.5w |
| 04:47.06 | Shirik | um |
| 04:47.18 | Shirik | 2.5W is nowhere close to 48V, 1.6A |
| 04:47.23 | Aqua | !g Cisco 521 Wireless |
| 04:47.24 | batbot | Aqua: Cisco 521 Wireless Express Access Point [Cisco 500 Series Wireless ... <http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps7306/ps7319/ps7338/product_data_sheet0900aecd8060c220.html> |
| 04:47.24 | Shirik | However, I strongly doubt he meant 48V, 1.6A |
| 04:47.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why I said it wasn't POE |
| 04:47.33 | Shirik | Because that is a SHIT TON of power |
| 04:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Or rather |
| 04:47.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Didn't say it was |
| 04:47.52 | Aqua | i know |
| 04:47.56 | Aqua | I was just stating |
| 04:48.15 | Shirik | shit ton is really a unit of power, btw |
| 04:48.20 | Aqua | (Gnarfoz): ScytheBlade1: is it like, PoE or something? why would |
| 04:48.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:48.37 | Aqua | yea, right up there with a jigawat |
| 04:49.36 | Aqua | god damn i hate bipap machines |
| 04:50.18 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: so if it isn't PoE... what... you're confusing me :P who designs a device to draw less power than it needs to operate properly? |
| 04:50.46 | Aqua | Gnarfoz: i don't think he was talking about power draw, i think he was talking about the wifi broadcast power |
| 04:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | They have a slightly larger power supply. I didn't need it at the time |
| 04:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I am talking about power draw |
| 04:51.04 | Aqua | Really? |
| 04:51.10 | Aqua | dayum, |
| 04:51.14 | Aqua | sticks foot in mouth. |
| 04:51.22 | Gnarfoz | Aqua: I asked about wifi broadcast power first :P |
| 04:51.32 | Shirik | Last login: Sun Apr 19 00:51:18 2009 from 132.253.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com |
| 04:51.32 | Shirik | Kids, the seven basic food groups are GUM, PUFF PASTRY, PIZZA, |
| 04:51.32 | Shirik | PESTICIDES, ANTIBIOTICS, NUTRA-SWEET and MILK DUDS!! |
| 04:51.32 | Shirik | tpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ |
| 04:51.39 | Shirik | Totally agree ^ |
| 04:51.41 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.49 | kd3 | and ick at random spaces |
| 04:51.54 | Gnarfoz | cats? |
| 04:51.58 | Thunder_Child | Pesticides? |
| 04:52.17 | Shirik | random spaces, kd3 |
| 04:52.18 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:52.27 | kd3 | [00:51:40] <kd3> lol |
| 04:52.28 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: your client sucks |
| 04:52.33 | Shirik | oh my client strips spaces |
| 04:52.34 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:52.35 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: (if it's condensing spaces) |
| 04:52.41 | Dagmar | I thought it was sugar, caffiene, preservatives, ketchup, starch, corn, and food coloring |
| 04:52.52 | Shirik | aren't those all starches? |
| 04:52.54 | Gnarfoz | eating preservatives? |
| 04:53.10 | Dagmar | I'm on the Mars diet |
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| 04:53.28 | Aqua | i prefer the seafood diet.., |
| 04:53.34 | Dagmar | ...as in microbes would find the surface of Mars safer to live in than me. |
| 04:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | One of the nice things about this device, is the part where it only draws 2.5W |
| 04:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | But is a full linux embeded device with a pair of cardbus cards and a minipci slot |
| 04:55.33 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, your dildo? |
| 04:58.34 | Shirik | to back up a directory |
| 04:58.36 | Shirik | tar -czvf * > ./backup-20090419005810.tar.gz |
| 04:58.37 | Shirik | no? |
| 04:58.45 | Dagmar | No need for > |
| 04:58.51 | kd3 | or v |
| 04:58.54 | Dagmar | "-f filename" |
| 04:58.56 | Shirik | why isn't v working? |
| 04:59.02 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:59.06 | Shirik | that's why, because I put -f |
| 04:59.10 | Dagmar | Because there's no sense in vebosely putting things into a tarball |
| 04:59.14 | Shirik | yes there is |
| 04:59.18 | Shirik | for this exact reason |
| 04:59.23 | Shirik | it tells me something is wrong :) |
| 04:59.27 | ScytheBlade1 | tar -czf backup.tar.gz * |
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| 04:59.30 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 04:59.34 | Dagmar | Shirik: Real men check exit codes |
| 04:59.38 | Shirik | no Dagmar |
| 04:59.42 | Shirik | I would have sat here waiting forever |
| 04:59.51 | Shirik | wondering if it's actually working or just blocked on stdin |
| 04:59.52 | Shirik | which it is |
| 04:59.58 | Dagmar | Nothing can help that |
| 05:00.01 | Shirik | sure |
| 05:00.01 | Shirik | -v |
| 05:00.08 | Dagmar | Tar was working fine |
| 05:00.16 | Dagmar | ...so, no need for it to throw an error |
| 05:00.19 | Shirik | The lack of output with -v tells me "you jacked something up" |
| 05:02.59 | Aqua | damnit i'm tired, i broke my slash commands and i can't figure out how, ha |
| 05:03.19 | Dagmar | Okay so next time do -czf - > filename.tar.gzx |
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| 05:03.34 | Shirik | or just leave off f |
| 05:03.49 | Dagmar | Nah, sensible people give tar a filename |
| 05:03.55 | Shirik | - is not a filename |
| 05:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | -f specifices the archive to read/write |
| 05:04.08 | ScytheBlade1 | tar -czf backup.tar.gz * |
| 05:04.11 | Shirik | I am a big fan of pipes |
| 05:04.14 | Shirik | I use them a lot |
| 05:04.53 | Ackis | Shirik: what kind of tobacco do you use? |
| 05:04.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:06.46 | Shirik | oh god |
| 05:06.54 | Shirik | the pain |
| 05:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 05:07.14 | Shirik | when dumping your database, don't forget to send it to a file |
| 05:07.21 | Shirik | especially if you gzipped it |
| 05:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:11.18 | Elly | nc -l -p 12345 -c 'tar c dir/' is the best backup strategy |
| 05:12.20 | Ackis | when did the G-19 keyboard come out? |
| 05:13.18 | Shirik | mysqldump -u root -p --all-databases | gzip -9 > ./db.sql.gz && tar -cv * | gzip -9 > ./backup.tar.gz && rm ./db.sql.gz |
| 05:13.18 | Shirik | imo |
| 05:14.18 | Dagmar | Ackis: When Logitech failed utterly to notice the depression happening |
| 05:14.33 | Dagmar | It's pretty but WAY too expensive |
| 05:14.39 | Ackis | Dagmar: recession :P and it's a fake one :P *grumles* |
| 05:15.17 | Ackis | omg people can't pay mortgages!!! ahhh!!! lets spend billions to bail out the companies when it would cost millions to pay off those mortgages roflz |
| 05:16.44 | Shirik | Ackis: That would make too much sense |
| 05:16.46 | Shirik | we can't have that |
| 05:17.08 | Cloudwolf | wow... |
| 05:17.10 | Ackis | i know eh? |
| 05:17.11 | Cloudwolf | how long have i been in here?... |
| 05:17.57 | ZorbaBeta | I love how some of the map files are misspelled compared to what they're known as now. or just blatantly wrong. |
| 05:18.13 | Cloudwolf | aparantly the last time i talked has been texted offa the screen... |
| 05:18.49 | Dagmar | That long, eh? |
| 05:18.50 | Dagmar | | Client Uptime: 98d 17h 6m 20s |
| 05:18.50 | Gnarfoz | ZorbaBeta: changing their names all over the place = more cost/effort than just keeping using the "old" name |
| 05:18.51 | Shirik | (17:09:35)  -› Join: Cloudwolf (n=Cloudwol@c-76-22-101-49.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:19.39 | Cloudwolf | whered you get the join message? |
| 05:19.42 | ZorbaBeta | gnarfoz, yeah, it's still rather funny though |
| 05:19.44 | ZorbaBeta | I mean, "Ogrimmar" |
| 05:19.50 | Shirik | Cloudwolf, obviously from when you joined |
| 05:20.00 | Aqua | is away -( stoned and sleeping )- at 12:19a -( P:On / L:On )- |
| 05:20.03 | Gnarfoz | ~seen cloudwolf |
| 05:20.06 | purl | cloudwolf is currently on #wowuidev (5h 44m 39s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 27s, last said: 'whered you get the join message?'. |
| 05:20.12 | Cloudwolf | wow... |
| 05:20.18 | Gnarfoz | ~botsnack |
| 05:20.18 | purl | Gnarfoz: aw, gee |
| 05:20.19 | Cloudwolf | 5 hours 44mins.... |
| 05:20.28 | Shirik | is that all? |
| 05:20.29 | Gnarfoz | ZorbaBeta: teldrassil is different, too, I think |
| 05:20.31 | Cloudwolf | ~whalenuke cloudwolf |
| 05:20.31 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around cloudwolf with his mind powers. |
| 05:20.34 | Gnarfoz | ~seen gnarfoz |
| 05:20.35 | purl | gnarfoz is currently on #wowhead (6d 23h 29m 45s) #norganna (6d 23h 29m 45s) #wowuidev (6d 23h 29m 45s) #wowace (6d 23h 29m 45s) #curseforge (6d 23h 29m 45s) #wowwiki (6d 23h 29m 45s). Has said a total of 705 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen gnarfoz'. |
| 05:20.37 | Shirik | uptime: 1d 12h 42m 40s |
| 05:20.41 | Shirik | And this is my laptop |
| 05:20.54 | ZorbaBeta | Teldrassil's the same, but I do seem to remember there's something that changed up there |
| 05:20.57 | Shirik | and yes, I really do keep IRC up all the time when my laptop's on |
| 05:21.05 | Gnarfoz | apropos laptop... I ordered a Samsung NC10 earlier, woot |
| 05:21.21 | Cloudwolf | jeez gnarfoz ever get off of IRC? |
| 05:21.27 | Gnarfoz | ZorbaBeta: idrassil or something, I think they had a different name for it at first |
| 05:21.30 | Cloudwolf | or turn off your computer for that matter? |
| 05:21.30 | Shirik | ~seen Shiibot |
| 05:21.31 | purl | shiibot is currently on #norganna (4d 20h 26m 51s) #wowuidev (4d 20h 26m 51s), last said: '~Shirik++'. |
| 05:21.32 | Fisker- | why so Gnarfoz ? |
| 05:21.42 | Shirik | only 4d? |
| 05:21.42 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:21.50 | Shirik | Oh right I had to fix a problem |
| 05:21.51 | Gnarfoz | Cloudwolf: almost 7 days ago, apparently, must have gotten disconnected from freenode by freenode :p |
| 05:21.52 | Cloudwolf | ~seen purl |
| 05:21.52 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (10d 1h 32m 49s) #botpark (10d 1h 32m 49s) #linuxfund (10d 1h 32m 49s) #waruidev (10d 1h 32m 49s) #how (10d 1h 32m 49s) #edev (10d 1h 32m 49s) #fossfund (10d 1h 32m 49s) #hosernet (10d 1h 32m 49s) #norganna (10d 1h 32m 49s) #ud (10d 1h 32m 49s) ##ducleague (10d 1h 32m 49s) ##kierra (10d 1h 32m 49s) #dub (10d 1h 32m 49s) ... |
| 05:22.05 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-66-7-174.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:22.24 | Cloudwolf | wow purl is popular |
| 05:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That is only a single nick of purl's |
| 05:22.50 | ScytheBlade1 | The same process manages infobot, jbot, and one-two others iirc |
| 05:22.56 | Cloudwolf | how many nicks dos purl posess? |
| 05:23.04 | ScytheBlade1 | ibot is another |
| 05:23.11 | Cloudwolf | heh... |
| 05:23.16 | Ackis | wow read review 2: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/4956&cl=us,en |
| 05:23.21 | Ackis | infobot too |
| 05:23.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I mentioned that one ;) |
| 05:23.43 | Ackis | oopps |
| 05:23.44 | Ackis | :P |
| 05:23.50 | Ackis | I wrote my please unban me message |
| 05:23.51 | Ackis | :D |
| 05:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 05:24.38 | Cloudwolf | wow 199.99... |
| 05:24.52 | Cloudwolf | still doesn't top the $1000 keyboard ive seen |
| 05:25.35 | Gnarfoz | also, linking that pricing to "the depression" is BS because Logitech is a Swiss company, meh |
| 05:26.00 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 05:26.26 | Shirik | Arguing that US economy does not affect other countries is BS, tbh |
| 05:27.01 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: they have their own, they affected it with their own shit, the US economy also dit it's part, but certainly not at the same time it did so to itself |
| 05:27.07 | Ackis | dude when the american economy blows up because china calls in their debts, it's gonna suck a lot |
| 05:27.35 | Gnarfoz | i.e. using it as a "since this point X, we have no money to spend" argument for a different country simply doesn't work that good ;> |
| 05:27.36 | Shirik | lol us bankrupt, I'm moving to japan, pz |
| 05:27.58 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: but who'd they do work for, then... |
| 05:28.05 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 05:28.12 | Gnarfoz | /join #politics |
| 05:28.13 | Gnarfoz | urgh |
| 05:28.15 | Cloudwolf | ugh i kinda wish i could move to japan |
| 05:28.16 | Cloudwolf | .... |
| 05:28.21 | Gnarfoz | I hate politics :p |
| 05:28.45 | Thunder_Child | optimus keyboard doesnt count Cloudwolf |
| 05:28.55 | Gnarfoz | still not sure why I took it as my second major in grammar school ;o |
| 05:29.07 | Gnarfoz | (might be one of the reasons I didn't finish that ;D) |
| 05:29.15 | Cloudwolf | lol why not thunder_child? :P |
| 05:29.18 | Cloudwolf | its a keyboard |
| 05:29.23 | Thunder_Child | new tech |
| 05:29.38 | Shirik | How can you have a channel #politics |
| 05:29.42 | Shirik | or was that a joke? |
| 05:30.16 | Cloudwolf | well i should b going |
| 05:30.19 | Cloudwolf | *be |
| 05:30.21 | Cloudwolf | cya |
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| 05:33.39 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: I'm confused, as much as you seem to be. how is #politics a problem, except for it probably being prone to a pretty flamy atmosphere? |
| 05:33.56 | Shirik | Because it should be ##politics |
| 05:34.03 | Shirik | you can't have an "official channel of politics" |
| 05:34.04 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 05:34.22 | Gnarfoz | oh, you're freenode-brainwashed, I get it ^^ |
| 05:34.28 | Gnarfoz | in that case, ##politics |
| 05:35.03 | Gnarfoz | (there's other networks, too, you know, and IRC doesn't treat # ## ### differently, that's just... you guessed it... policy! :D) |
| 05:35.17 | Fisker- | rages |
| 05:35.19 | Gnarfoz | oh man, did you set this up :p |
| 05:35.32 | Gnarfoz | nah, too convoluted |
| 05:35.33 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 05:35.37 | Shirik | that's it |
| 05:35.47 | Shirik | we need to invent a reason for ### |
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| 05:41.52 | AbsolutRayne | Hey Guys |
| 05:42.10 | AbsolutRayne | My wifes stuck on a Sandbox Tiger, her mods didnt give her the Vehichle Dismount option |
| 05:42.13 | AbsolutRayne | Is there a command for it? |
| 05:42.45 | AbsolutRayne | nm |
| 05:50.53 | tekkub | hrm... so now, if I'm the only pally, think I should do kings or wis/might |
| 05:52.19 | Ackis | holy fuck entitlement ftw: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/1318-add-ons-not-working-after-new-patches-on-wow/ |
| 05:52.34 | Ackis | AbsolutRayne: wait 3 minutes |
| 05:53.25 | Shirik | lmao Ackis |
| 05:53.30 | Shirik | What is the expected output? What do you see instead? |
| 05:53.30 | Shirik | For them to work? Not working. |
| 05:53.37 | Ackis | I AM QUITTING WOW |
| 05:54.03 | Shirik | best ticket evar |
| 05:57.09 | Thunder_Child | will "Twin Disiplines" work with 'Surge of Light'? |
| 05:57.21 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 05:57.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Assinging that off was pro |
| 05:57.34 | Shirik | twin disciplines? |
| 05:59.16 | ZorbaGama | ackis, oh no he might quit wow |
| 05:59.19 | ZorbaGama | whatever will we do |
| 05:59.30 | Shirik | ZorbaGama: party? |
| 05:59.40 | Shirik | Sorry, I shouldn't be saying these things |
| 05:59.47 | ZorbaGama | people seem to think that all companies are one gigantic company. very weird. :P |
| 05:59.53 | Ackis | Shirik: why not? he's an entitled douchebag |
| 06:00.13 | Shirik | thing is Ackis |
| 06:00.15 | Thunder_Child | ya, Shirik, http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=52803 |
| 06:00.20 | Shirik | you're not associated with anyone |
| 06:00.26 | Shirik | I am, despite being a volunteer |
| 06:00.36 | Shirik | oh right Thunder_Child |
| 06:00.36 | Ackis | Shirik: I'm a volunteer too :P |
| 06:00.37 | Shirik | yes it does |
| 06:01.01 | Shirik | if you're going holy, you better pick up twin disciplines |
| 06:01.04 | Shirik | or I will find you and murder you |
| 06:01.08 | Shirik | do you want my spec? |
| 06:01.10 | Cairenn | Shirik: I speak my mind about stuff in here some days, no reason you can't :) |
| 06:01.14 | Thunder_Child | we are going to have a 3 priest pvp group |
| 06:01.18 | Shirik | oh is it pvp? |
| 06:01.21 | Fisker- | why so valiant? |
| 06:01.22 | Shirik | Then you need the anti-stun one |
| 06:01.22 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 06:01.28 | Thunder_Child | going to have both |
| 06:01.32 | Shirik | interesting |
| 06:01.35 | Shirik | I've never been able to get both |
| 06:01.40 | Shirik | though I haven't done my pvp spec for 3.1 yet |
| 06:01.44 | Thunder_Child | disc healer, holy dps, and a sjgfhas;fuhaidhwajdwhan |
| 06:01.49 | Thunder_Child | which will be me |
| 06:01.53 | Shirik | a sjgfhas;fuhaidhwajdwhan? |
| 06:01.57 | Thunder_Child | correct sir |
| 06:02.05 | Thunder_Child | a mishmash |
| 06:02.23 | Shirik | I was unaware a sjgfhas;fuhaidhwajdwhan was the correct term for that |
| 06:02.34 | Shirik | I am an old-school priest; not up-to-date on the new terminology yet |
| 06:02.38 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 06:02.39 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Fatalus a big kiss on the hand |
| 06:02.44 | Ackis | ~fisker-++ |
| 06:02.59 | Shirik | ~Fisker--- |
| 06:03.12 | Ackis | WOT |
| 06:03.13 | Ackis | don't do it |
| 06:03.17 | Fisker- | thanks Shirik |
| 06:03.19 | Ackis | we're trying to get him in the positive |
| 06:03.22 | Shirik | he's been a good boy today |
| 06:03.34 | Ackis | roflz |
| 06:03.49 | Torhal | Shirik: You're provoking him, now. |
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| 06:28.07 | batrick | Shirik: chess?! |
| 06:29.48 | Shirik | sorry batrick not now |
| 06:29.53 | batrick | qq |
| 06:30.26 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFkcwtpGZo |
| 06:30.31 | Wobin | that's pretty awesome |
| 06:32.00 | Thunder_Child | i want to play chess |
| 06:32.09 | Shirik | no you don't |
| 06:32.12 | Shirik | batrick will destroy you |
| 06:32.14 | Thunder_Child | yes, yes i do |
| 06:32.16 | Thunder_Child | maybe |
| 06:32.17 | Shirik | you don't have my level of intelligence |
| 06:32.33 | Thunder_Child | i used to play a westcoast regoinal chess champion |
| 06:32.44 | Shirik | I used to play batrick |
| 06:32.57 | Shirik | He doesn't like queen's gambit |
| 06:35.04 | batrick | i don't like openings period |
| 06:35.14 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:35.16 | batrick | getting through it quickly is my goal :) |
| 06:35.17 | Shirik | me too |
| 06:35.24 | Shirik | I only ever play one opening on white |
| 06:35.45 | batrick | Thunder_Child: I'll play u chess |
| 06:35.51 | batrick | si quieres |
| 06:36.23 | Shirik | I wanna watch |
| 06:39.34 | Thunder_Child | how? also, 1 sec VoA |
| 06:40.51 | batrick | standard notation? 1. e4 e5 |
| 06:40.53 | batrick | etc... |
| 06:42.04 | Shirik | we need an isValidMove() |
| 06:42.23 | batrick | you should help me get that chess module for batbot working shirik |
| 06:42.34 | Shirik | it's easy |
| 06:44.38 | Shirik | batrick, I think we should invent a new system for writing moves |
| 06:44.53 | Shirik | right now everything's in rectangular coordinates |
| 06:44.59 | Shirik | we should use polar coordinates |
| 06:45.10 | batrick | uh lol? |
| 06:45.28 | Shirik | distance from king and angle |
| 06:45.48 | Shirik | pi/2 is always from player's perspective forward |
| 06:46.25 | Shirik | so for example |
| 06:46.32 | Shirik | queen's gambit would be |
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| 06:48.14 | Shirik | 1. arctan(-3) arctan(3) |
| 06:48.33 | Shirik | 2. arctan(-3/2) |
| 06:48.38 | Shirik | yes? |
| 06:48.50 | batrick | uh |
| 06:49.07 | Shirik | oh I forgot distance |
| 06:49.07 | batrick | no thanks |
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| 06:49.28 | batrick | I don't want to whip out a protractor every time I want to play chess |
| 06:49.37 | Tem | jesus christ |
| 06:49.42 | Tem | mimiron trash is fucking insane |
| 06:49.44 | Shirik | 1. arctan(-3)-sqrt(1+3^2), arctan(3)-sqrt(1+3^2) |
| 06:49.50 | Shirik | Tem: We... kinda cheezed it |
| 06:50.06 | Shirik | 2. arctan(-3/2)-sqrt(2^2+3^2) |
| 06:50.12 | Shirik | See how easy batrick? |
| 06:50.14 | Shirik | it's not hard |
| 06:50.32 | Shirik | And here's the cool part batrick, it becomes an FPS! |
| 06:50.41 | Shirik | All coordinates are from the perspective of the king |
| 06:50.49 | Shirik | so you get the feeling like you're actually there |
| 06:52.21 | batrick | Ya and all the polar coordinates would be 180 degrees different for black, making it even more annoying :P |
| 06:52.30 | Shirik | exactly! |
| 06:52.35 | Shirik | well, minus the annoying part |
| 06:56.25 | Tem | how'd you cheese it? |
| 06:56.54 | Trela | Mmm, cheese. |
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| 06:58.53 | Arrowmaster | so i just came up with an amazing addon idea that would bring me back to wow addon coding, the only problem is that its not possible without something being added to the restricted enviroment for it, but im almost certain its something the game designers would allow |
| 06:59.04 | Thunder_Child | batrick, going to have to play tomorrow |
| 06:59.08 | Thunder_Child | needs my sleep |
| 06:59.18 | Shirik | Tem: Very simple |
| 06:59.28 | Thunder_Child | and find a virtual board so i dont have to remember the moves |
| 06:59.41 | Shirik | Army of dead into first pack, fear second pack, rogue gets far enough, vanishes, hits teleporter |
| 06:59.52 | Shirik | teleport to mirmiron |
| 07:00.18 | Shirik | well |
| 07:00.21 | Shirik | the idea was to fear the second pack |
| 07:00.24 | Shirik | I didn't really make it |
| 07:00.26 | Shirik | but it worked anyway |
| 07:00.51 | Trela | Arrowmaster: That is, Arrow? |
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| 07:01.30 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 07:01.38 | Arrowmaster | an addon to set custom keybindings per vehicle/possessed unit |
| 07:02.12 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:02.15 | Fisker- | stop exploiting! |
| 07:02.23 | Shirik | not an exploit! |
| 07:02.26 | Arrowmaster | since you can set override keybindings in combat with secure frame handlers, but theres no way to figure out what vehicle you are in right now |
| 07:02.27 | Shirik | It is creative use of game mechanics |
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| 07:02.42 | Trela | Not getting the name of your pet? |
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| 07:02.50 | Arrowmaster | you cant do that |
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| 07:02.53 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 07:03.06 | Shirik | Shadowed is going to trip Shiibot |
| 07:03.17 | Shadowed | Shiibot is which bot |
| 07:03.19 | Shadowed | too many bots here |
| 07:03.24 | Shirik | do a /whois on him |
| 07:03.32 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 07:03.32 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Jamash a big kiss on the neck |
| 07:03.39 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 07:03.50 | Arrowmaster | they do give the pet name |
| 07:03.51 | Shirik | he's the only one that's oped, that should give you a hint |
| 07:03.55 | Shadowed | That seems hard to believe given I last disconnected like 4 hours ago :p |
| 07:03.57 | Arrowmaster | i could do this |
| 07:04.13 | Arrowmaster | but it would need to be localized for every vehicle/possessed unit |
| 07:04.26 | Trela | Yeah, I was wondering how my HUD was getting the pet name if it was impossible. :P |
| 07:04.32 | Shadowed | Can you not use GUID and use some sort of NPC id |
| 07:04.59 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: i dont see a way to get GUID inside the restricted env |
| 07:05.08 | Shadowed | that could pose a problem yes! |
| 07:05.12 | Trela | The unit ID would be there, but it means nothing besides a unique number. |
| 07:05.29 | Arrowmaster | function ENV.PlayerPetSummary() return UnitCreatureFamily( "pet" ), (UnitName( "pet" )) end |
| 07:05.33 | Arrowmaster | that could be used |
| 07:05.55 | Trela | Oh my, Arrow coding again! |
| 07:06.28 | Arrowmaster | i have financial motovations now |
| 07:06.52 | Arrowmaster | make something really popular and get more amazon giftcards from curse when premium goes live |
| 07:07.40 | Trela | Mmm. |
| 07:07.56 | Xinhuan | eg fubar4? |
| 07:07.57 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 07:08.09 | Fisker- | fubar is shit |
| 07:08.28 | Trela | has a copy of FuBar she has been trying to make use Ace3. >.>;; |
| 07:09.17 | Shadowed | generally poorly coded mods are more popular than well coded one so! |
| 07:09.54 | Xinhuan | fubar was considered well coded during its time ;p |
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| 07:10.25 | Tem | DO NOT PUSH THIS BUTTON |
| 07:10.29 | Tem | Hee |
| 07:10.33 | Kemayo | FuBar was a massive improvement over Titan. |
| 07:10.41 | Trela | Very much yes. |
| 07:11.00 | Shadowed | that's totally not saying much thought |
| 07:11.07 | Shadowed | boggles at people using Titan still |
| 07:11.33 | Jamash | I like fubar, but I'm getting errors out of it lately |
| 07:11.45 | Shadowed | TITAN_NIL was the best part of Titan |
| 07:11.54 | Kemayo | Was it actually nil? |
| 07:11.55 | Trela | Titan_Nil? |
| 07:11.59 | Kemayo | Or was it, say, 7? |
| 07:13.00 | batrick | man |
| 07:13.08 | batrick | no chess tonight |
| 07:13.13 | batrick | shirik u owe me |
| 07:13.30 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: can i has UnitGUID("pet") added to ENV.PlayerPetSummary()? |
| 07:14.22 | Trela | What exactly is Titan_Nil? |
| 07:14.23 | batrick | Zootfizzle should play me Chess |
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| 07:14.52 | Arrowmaster | titan had a global variable called TITAN_NIL that was set to nil |
| 07:14.58 | Arrowmaster | whenever it did a check for nil it would check against TITAN_NIL |
| 07:15.01 | tekkub | no, it WASN'T nil |
| 07:15.06 | Trela | TITAN_NIL = "Titan Nil"; |
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| 07:15.13 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 07:15.15 | tekkub | it was a string, used to "store" nils in savedvars |
| 07:15.26 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 07:15.33 | tekkub | you heard me |
| 07:15.35 | Arrowmaster | at that time saved vars still stored nil afaik |
| 07:15.36 | Shadowed | random guess |
| 07:15.45 | Trela | mind boggles. |
| 07:15.47 | Shadowed | it was because he didn't realize he could do var == false instead of not var? |
| 07:15.48 | Xinhuan | nils aren't stored in savedvar subtables, Arrowmaster |
| 07:15.58 | Xinhuan | only if an actual savedvar itself was nil |
| 07:16.02 | Xinhuan | then that was stored |
| 07:16.19 | Shadowed | If it was back during RegisterForSave, it might have been? |
| 07:16.39 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 07:16.50 | Shirik | what if I wanted my string to be Titan Nil? |
| 07:16.56 | Fisker- | btw tekkub have you checked picobuttons for 3.1? .o |
| 07:17.16 | tekkub | looks fine for me |
| 07:18.03 | Fisker- | weird |
| 07:18.16 | Fisker- | LFG and PvP doesn't work here |
| 07:18.41 | tekkub | ah, LFG does, PvP doesn't |
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| 07:21.27 | Shirik | Iriel or anyone else that wants to explain |
| 07:21.45 | Shirik | why does string.find("foofoobar", "foo.-$") indicate a match at index 1? |
| 07:21.48 | Shirik | and not 4? |
| 07:22.13 | Xinhuan | cos .- matches the shortest string sequence |
| 07:22.19 | ZorbaGama | shirik, because it finds the earliest match. index 1 is the earliest match |
| 07:22.20 | Shirik | yes... |
| 07:22.27 | Shirik | - should match the shortest string sequence |
| 07:22.28 | Xinhuan | but based on the regex it has to start at teh earlier one |
| 07:22.33 | Shirik | which should be "bar" not "foobar" |
| 07:22.35 | Xinhuan | before it matches at the later one |
| 07:22.41 | ZorbaGama | yes, and it does. given the match at index 1, the shortest string sequence is "foobar" :) |
| 07:22.50 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 07:22.57 | Shirik | noone forced it to start at index 1 |
| 07:22.58 | ZorbaGama | *first*, it finds the earliest match. *then*, it tries to follow - |
| 07:23.17 | ZorbaGama | I believe it's defined as always finding the earliest match. |
| 07:23.22 | Shirik | "a single character class followed by '-', which also matches 0 or more repetitions of characters in the class. Unlike '*', these repetition items will always match the shortest possible sequence;" |
| 07:23.35 | Shirik | I feel this contract is violated |
| 07:25.41 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.find("foofoobar", "foo.-$") |
| 07:25.42 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1, 9 |
| 07:26.27 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.find("foofoobar", ".*foo.-$") |
| 07:26.28 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1, 9 |
| 07:26.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont know but i agree that it doesnt seem right |
| 07:26.49 | Shirik | I don't like it |
| 07:26.50 | Shirik | but |
| 07:26.53 | Shirik | the answer I've found so far is |
| 07:27.07 | Shirik | lua> string.match("foofoobar", ".*()foo.-$") |
| 07:27.08 | lua_bot | Shirik: 4 |
| 07:27.16 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 07:27.40 | Shirik | but I don't feel that should be necessary |
| 07:27.44 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("foofoobar", "foo.-$", -1) |
| 07:27.44 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: nil |
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| 07:34.35 | Shirik | so random question |
| 07:34.48 | Shirik | is there any case where string.match is not defined as select(3, string.find(...)) ? |
| 07:35.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 07:35.58 | Shirik | fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
| 07:36.03 | Shirik | I just missed the zep |
| 07:36.06 | Shirik | I blame Arrowmaster |
| 07:36.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> select(3, string.find("foobar", "foobar")) |
| 07:36.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: No output |
| 07:36.21 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.match("foobar", "foobar") |
| 07:36.22 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: foobar |
| 07:36.30 | Shirik | hm |
| 07:36.35 | Arrowmaster | if theres no pattern then string.find doesnt have a 3rd arg |
| 07:36.36 | Shirik | well string.find is evil :P |
| 07:36.52 | Arrowmaster | not pattern but capture |
| 07:36.55 | Xinhuan | by no pattern, he means no capture |
| 07:37.01 | Shirik | yeah I figured out what he meant |
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| 07:38.32 | Arrowmaster | can anybody think of any vehicles or possessed units that have the same names but different action buttons |
| 07:39.10 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:39.19 | Xinhuan | ulduar first boss, driver/passenger |
| 07:39.31 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 07:39.44 | Xinhuan | can i assume you know what i mean? lol |
| 07:39.46 | Arrowmaster | is the unit the same for both? as in same guid too? |
| 07:39.51 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 07:40.06 | Xinhuan | the driver and the passenger of the same vehicle has different vehicle abilities, and in some cases, no abilities |
| 07:40.14 | Xinhuan | some vehicles even have 3 modes |
| 07:40.30 | Xinhuan | driver with abilities, passenger with abilities, passenger with self-abilities |
| 07:40.31 | Arrowmaster | so its like the WG destroyers except the passenger actually has abilitys |
| 07:40.40 | Xinhuan | yes, and a 3-in-1 version |
| 07:41.09 | Arrowmaster | ok are any of those abilities available in more than one layout? |
| 07:41.11 | ZorbaGama | for that matter, there's WG siege engines, which have a gun on top |
| 07:41.18 | Xinhuan | ^ that too |
| 07:42.13 | Xinhuan | so technically that WG siege enginer has 1 driver, 1 turret and 2 passengers that cannot use abilities |
| 07:42.35 | Trela | Good night~ |
| 07:42.36 | Arrowmaster | that gun is a different unit though isnt it? |
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| 07:44.33 | Shadowed | it has to be |
| 07:44.46 | Shadowed | given it can be targeted, has a separate health bar and dies independent of the siege |
| 07:45.06 | Arrowmaster | but the vehicle in the ulduar fight isnt like that? |
| 07:45.07 | Xinhuan | the siege enginer turret can't be targetted |
| 07:49.05 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 07:49.14 | Xinhuan | you can't mount up on it as passenger unless there's already a driver |
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| 08:23.37 | dolseni | mmmm, anybody know of a gathering addon that can make routes for you to follow? preferably one where you can set it to ignore specific nodes or areas of the map |
| 08:24.57 | dolseni | I can't seem to find one that i like, or they are really really old |
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| 08:25.39 | Wobin | how about... Routes? |
| 08:26.32 | amro | Xinhuan: hop in as driver then switch to guner |
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| 08:26.35 | amro | +n |
| 08:26.54 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 08:29.05 | Shirik | is bored |
| 08:29.08 | Shirik | Tem |
| 08:29.11 | Shirik | entertainment |
| 08:29.26 | Tem | HULU.COM |
| 08:29.30 | Shirik | no |
| 08:29.32 | Shirik | good entertainment |
| 08:29.36 | Tem | crunchyroll.com? |
| 08:29.38 | Tem | oh you said good |
| 08:29.40 | Tem | uh |
| 08:29.42 | Tem | dunno |
| 08:29.49 | Shirik | eh |
| 08:29.55 | Shirik | crunchyroll has really gone downhill |
| 08:30.29 | amro | yeah, quite far :( |
| 08:30.32 | Tem | I love that my ad blocking proxy makes both crunchyroll and hulu fail to show ads |
| 08:30.59 | Tem | (and just skip the 30s pause or whatever where it would insert the ad and goes directly on in the show I'm watching) |
| 08:31.48 | Shirik | cr has ads now? |
| 08:31.48 | Shirik | wtf |
| 08:32.11 | amro | Shirik: since a wihle |
| 08:32.18 | Tem | Shirik, they went "legal" |
| 08:32.56 | amro | another word for unwatchable |
| 08:33.05 | amro | they took down police story! |
| 08:35.43 | Fisker- | http://i43.tinypic.com/2uy3wvr.jpg <-man female dwarves are ugly |
| 08:36.42 | Shirik | wtf did you do |
| 08:39.44 | Fisker- | i did nothing :E |
| 08:40.17 | Shirik | night |
| 08:41.12 | amro | Fisker-: you scared him to sleep |
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| 10:30.05 | Etanol | heh |
| 10:30.10 | Etanol | strange |
| 10:30.29 | Etanol | defragging registry broke my irc for my last session ^^ |
| 10:30.30 | Etanol | evil |
| 10:31.47 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:31.48 | Wobin | [20:30:37] [T] [Artemisentr]: Anybody have a Two of Rogues? |
| 10:31.49 | Wobin | [20:30:53] [T] [Xirena]: Nope. Go fish. |
| 10:32.07 | zenzelezz | heh |
| 10:35.05 | amro | epic fail at the court of bones |
| 10:35.14 | amro | can see arthas from someone doing that quest >_< |
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| 10:58.10 | cncfanatics | is there any addon around that can put the number of stacks I have of a buff in a movable & resizable frame ? |
| 11:00.47 | cncfanatics | no ? :( |
| 11:00.56 | digmouse | bit wonderting too |
| 11:01.09 | Kraftman | you just want to resize the stack number? |
| 11:01.09 | digmouse | saw kinda things on legacy's Yogg kill video |
| 11:01.20 | cncfanatics | Kraftman: basicly yes |
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| 11:01.36 | cncfanatics | I want a big number somewhere near my raidframes that tells me how much stacks of Serendipity I have |
| 11:02.38 | digmouse | I saw the stack of sanity count on legacy's yogg kill video is extremely big |
| 11:03.23 | cncfanatics | that one is prolly from bossmods ? |
| 11:05.22 | Kraftman | i think you coudl make it fairly easily |
| 11:05.50 | cncfanatics | ya prolly, but I'm lazy >.> |
| 11:06.04 | digmouse | cncfanatics: I saw that big number on his EBBs |
| 11:06.14 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 11:06.20 | cncfanatics | *checks EBB's options* |
| 11:06.37 | cncfanatics | there we go, found it |
| 11:06.38 | Stanzilla | greate a new ebb group |
| 11:06.43 | cncfanatics | you can override the display for certain buffs |
| 11:06.44 | cncfanatics | <3 nice |
| 11:16.16 | Etanol | http://www.google.com/search?q=ln(+(-1)^(1/pi)+) |
| 11:16.29 | Etanol | amazing |
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| 12:38.32 | Etanol | ~pain |
| 12:38.33 | purl | Pain is starting BZFlag without 3D acceleration. |
| 12:50.19 | foxlit | omen of clarity + lifebloom == free mana |
| 12:52.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 13:59.21 | Kraft | ~moo |
| 13:59.22 | purl | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 14:00.25 | alestane | You don't say. |
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| 14:08.52 | JackBurton7676 | hi |
| 14:09.02 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.14 | Thrae | You know I said "yes" to "Yes Man" and so far I've been saying "No! Noooo!" |
| 14:10.27 | nevcairiel | i liked the movie |
| 14:13.07 | Kraft | i liked it :) |
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| 14:49.02 | foxlit | These aren't Shango's tracks. |
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| 14:56.38 | alestane | cuddles with Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:56.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, alestane? Not out counting sheeples today? |
| 14:57.09 | alestane | I will go out for a little while when Kat goes to her grove meeting later. |
| 14:57.31 | Trela | Arr, good morning ye mateys! |
| 14:58.38 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Trela. |
| 14:58.52 | foxlit | whoah, when did Thorns stop being utterly useless? |
| 14:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | When you saw them working and were happy? :) |
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| 15:05.31 | Mikk | foxlit: 3.0 |
| 15:06.02 | Mikk | of course, they're still fairly useless on all tanks except paladins |
| 15:06.20 | Mikk | since they stack with the target's spell power :S |
| 15:06.54 | foxlit | screw the tanks, I can use that as free damage for low HP mobs! |
| 15:12.11 | Etanol | ^^ |
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| 15:18.13 | Trela | Does any one know if LibDataBroker-1.1 is designed to be disembedded? |
| 15:18.50 | Etanol | define disembedded |
| 15:20.40 | Trela | As in, remove from lib directory of the AddOns and make its own folder in /AddOns/. |
| 15:21.42 | Lopeppeppy | I belive I have some libs separate like that. |
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| 16:15.06 | AbsolutRayne | yawn |
| 16:15.09 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Rawr |
| 16:15.37 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, AbsolutRayne. Happy Sunday. |
| 16:15.43 | AbsolutRayne | ty :3 |
| 16:15.57 | AbsolutRayne | You gotten a chance to test the newest version? |
| 16:16.35 | Lopeppeppy | I have not. I've been looking at apartments and packing to move. I saw the comments about SLDT and maybe eepanels not working well? |
| 16:16.53 | Mikk | Rawr? I'm using it. |
| 16:17.02 | Mikk | <3 new gemming system |
| 16:17.22 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Its eePanels |
| 16:17.25 | nevcairiel | did they finally fix the stupid default gems socketed into every item? |
| 16:17.26 | AbsolutRayne | Im reworking it with KG |
| 16:17.28 | nevcairiel | that drove me nuts |
| 16:18.08 | Mikk | Yeah, they now have gemming templates with sane defaults for each model |
| 16:18.18 | Mikk | You only see the one of every item |
| 16:18.22 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, I do have it on the desktop waiting for game time. So if it gives me crap, I'll disable eepanels |
| 16:19.33 | Mikk | And yeah I hated the old one too. My solution around it was to have a different directory for every model. (X chars * Y specs. yay) |
| 16:19.47 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Ill be pushing the KG Version in a few hours |
| 16:19.53 | AbsolutRayne | after this Wintergrasp, and I do my Dailys |
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| 16:20.31 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, I'll look on the site before instaling anything. |
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| 16:21.59 | AbsolutRayne | kk <3 |
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| 16:29.08 | Mikk | yaknow... wouldnt it be pretty smooth to have an addon that loads before all other addons |
| 16:29.20 | Mikk | and if like.. SHIFT is held, it disables everything else for the duration of the load process? |
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| 16:29.42 | Mikk | (and then re-enables it after VARIABLES_LOADED) |
| 16:30.14 | alestane | Like the old "Hold down shift to boot without extensions enabled" gimmick? |
| 16:30.20 | Iriel | Mikk: Well, you'd want that built into the wow loader, not an addon |
| 16:31.29 | Kaso | If it just delays the loading process what help is that? surely the same amount of time expires if you load addons before or after v_l ? |
| 16:31.41 | Iriel | The point is none of the others get loaded |
| 16:31.50 | Iriel | it's a quick "load without addons to see if they were at fault" mechanism |
| 16:32.00 | Kaso | oh i see |
| 16:32.01 | Iriel | I think? |
| 16:32.06 | Kaso | i mis-interpreted i think |
| 16:32.08 | Iriel | If it's not then I dont understand the suggestion |
| 16:32.39 | Iriel | Which is entirely possible, especially if the thought began before 9:20 when igot here |
| 16:33.03 | Kaso | lol |
| 16:34.41 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:34.42 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give haste a big kiss on the hand |
| 16:35.42 | Mikk | Iriel: Not so much for testing... more of "i'm relogging shitloads of alts to do something and i don't want long load times" |
| 16:36.14 | Mikk | And yeah obviously having it in the WoW loader would be preferable. But if I can fix it with an addon in 5 minutes.... :) |
| 16:36.34 | Adys | needs a shell guru |
| 16:36.35 | foxlit | It wouldn't work. |
| 16:36.45 | foxlit | By the time your code runs, you can't alter what gets loaded. |
| 16:37.06 | alestane | Adys: Working on it, but I'm still pretty noobish. |
| 16:37.12 | Adys | i asked for this before and lost it... a command to find all the files within a folder < x bytes and delete them |
| 16:39.45 | mikma | http://chinagrabber.com/3-2-tri-band-dual-slide-phone-nokiphone-w-touchscreen-keyboard-mp3-mp4---nokiphone-n3000i.aspx |
| 16:39.55 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Ping |
| 16:40.00 | alestane | Something like find /path -size -512c -delete if I'm reading the docs right. |
| 16:40.30 | AbsolutRayne | :< |
| 16:40.45 | Iriel | Mikk: problem is you can't fix it in an addon the way your describe, an addon can only affect what's loading NEXT TIME |
| 16:41.04 | Iriel | I think you may need -exec rm '{}' |
| 16:41.08 | Iriel | Followed by ';' |
| 16:41.25 | Iriel | Oh, no, -delete is valid |
| 16:41.29 | Iriel | interesting, never used that |
| 16:41.42 | Iriel | Oh, |
| 16:41.45 | Iriel | You may want -type f |
| 16:41.52 | Iriel | Or it could try to delete directories |
| 16:41.56 | Iriel | which may not go the way you want it |
| 16:42.06 | alestane | Most likely. I only started reading about find a couple of days ago. |
| 16:42.16 | Iriel | I also recommend always starting with -print instead of an action, to make sure you're not going to do something "nasty" |
| 16:42.42 | AbsolutRayne | http://i41.tinypic.com/2poe44m.jpg Think the paneling behind the UF is too dark? |
| 16:43.47 | pastamancer | find has all kinda of crazy options these days |
| 16:44.30 | Mikk | Iriel: Ah, shame. I hadn't realize that was the case. I thought if I could get it to load first, I would still have time to tweak enable/disable for addons not yet loaded. |
| 16:45.09 | alestane | You can, but it won't affect that load cycle. |
| 16:45.22 | Iriel | You could I suppose re-write all of your other addons to be Load on Demand |
| 16:45.27 | Iriel | then then suppress the LoadAddOn calls |
| 16:45.28 | alestane | The loader will have already queued them. |
| 16:45.32 | Mikk | nods |
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| 16:45.38 | Iriel | It still doesn't quite work for LoadWith |
| 16:45.48 | Iriel | but it'd be better |
| 16:45.59 | Mikk | I guess I could put it in AddonLoader and nag more people to use LoadManager:AddonLoader :o) |
| 16:46.43 | Mikk | Not that that's working too well as is :< |
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| 16:48.16 | AbsolutRayne | GOD DAMNIT |
| 16:48.27 | AbsolutRayne | I just crashed and lost all my panels, gd Router |
| 16:49.05 | AbsolutRayne | sigh -_- |
| 16:49.07 | mikma | absolutrayne: then answer to your question is: yes |
| 16:49.22 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort AbsolutRayne. |
| 16:49.23 | purl | There, there, AbsolutRayne.. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:51.34 | Arrowmaster | Iriel, alestane: the only way to get data in and out of the restrected headers is to use get/setattribute right? like if i wanted configurable keybindings that were changed on a state header |
| 16:51.41 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: ;_; |
| 16:52.02 | zenzelezz | AbsolutRayne: save early, save often |
| 16:52.17 | zenzelezz | but regardless, that does suck |
| 16:52.28 | alestane | Arrowmaster: Pretty much the only way to move it in, yes. I believe you can read a handler's global data from insecure code, but not write it. |
| 16:54.24 | foxlit | There is a table-like proxy mechanism to get at a handler's environment. |
| 16:54.46 | foxlit | As alestane pointed out, it's read-only |
| 16:55.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah i need to move a lot of data into the evn to i guess ill have to use attributes like a hash table |
| 16:55.57 | alestane | The other way to move data in is with the :Execute method. |
| 16:55.57 | foxlit | You can also serialize and execute |
| 16:56.24 | Arrowmaster | oh ok ill have to remember that |
| 16:56.51 | Arrowmaster | i gota goto family lunch/diner now |
| 16:58.28 | zenzelezz | <Keyboard Turning Trainer> o_O |
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| 16:58.53 | mikma | LOL this is cool |
| 16:59.16 | mikma | took the fishing daily -> sewers -> first cast -> Giant Sewer Rat |
| 16:59.21 | Fisker- | blizzard fucking sucks |
| 16:59.35 | Fisker- | so i just finished buffing 25 people |
| 16:59.40 | Fisker- | Noticed i were in tank spec |
| 16:59.47 | Fisker- | activated primary spec, BOOM rebuff |
| 16:59.48 | Fisker- | fu |
| 17:00.01 | AbsolutRayne | Crap |
| 17:00.08 | AbsolutRayne | now I cant seem to get the colors to match |
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| 17:01.19 | Lopeppeppy | Frell. |
| 17:01.38 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh |
| 17:01.40 | Fisker- | i love you |
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| 17:02.53 | Lopeppeppy | He knows, Fisker-, but his heart is set on another. Tragedy for you. |
| 17:05.27 | Fisker- | man :( |
| 17:05.42 | pastamancer | I still love you Fisker- |
| 17:05.48 | Fisker- | me too |
| 17:06.06 | Lopeppeppy | So you're still doing okay. |
| 17:06.09 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041909_195810.jpg |
| 17:06.44 | Fisker- | snusnu sux |
| 17:08.16 | mikma | death, by SNUSNU! |
| 17:08.18 | mikma | wobwork: right? |
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| 17:09.11 | kluge | hi |
| 17:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | I thought it was death by ru-ru? |
| 17:10.00 | amro | is there an addon that reduces "under attack" spam while still informing you if there's a lot of those messages? |
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| 17:10.55 | Kraftman | is there a limit to the depth of a table or the number of entries in a table? |
| 17:11.00 | airtonix | haha theres a guild on dath-remar called 'death by snoosnoo' |
| 17:11.09 | Thunder_Child | nice |
| 17:11.09 | alestane | Kraftman: Only memory. |
| 17:11.14 | Kraftman | thanks |
| 17:11.38 | alestane | There might be a limit to the number of table entries, but if there is it's impractically high. |
| 17:12.11 | alestane | Considering how some add-ons like recount pack their tables. |
| 17:13.39 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 17:14.23 | Kraftman | learnign more lua is so much more interesting than writing up my dissertation |
| 17:15.07 | zenzelezz | so, who else can't help but stop to flip their Titanium Seal of Dalaran when they pass by the people fishing in the fountain? |
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| 17:22.20 | amro | anyone else notice a bug with profession links? |
| 17:22.27 | Dagmar | It's been bugged |
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| 17:22.37 | amro | as in unclickable? |
| 17:22.38 | ZorbaGama | kraft, yes, there is a limit to table size - 512k contiguous entries, I don't know if there's a limit for random-access entries (there probably is) |
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| 17:25.06 | AbsolutRayne | Yay, Leftover KFC for lunch |
| 17:25.07 | AbsolutRayne | >_< |
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| 17:30.54 | AbsolutRayne | Crap |
| 17:31.11 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone got a link to Devtools? |
| 17:31.27 | amro | ~devtools |
| 17:31.28 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 17:31.39 | Adys | to answer my earlier question |
| 17:31.46 | Adys | find . -type f -size -123 -exec rm {} \; |
| 17:31.51 | Adys | where 123 is the size in bytes |
| 17:32.13 | amro | voodoo. |
| 17:32.15 | amro | dark voodoo. |
| 17:38.18 | Cloudwolf | any one know what hard mode means for Ulduar? |
| 17:38.31 | Kraftman | you have to do it naked |
| 17:38.37 | Cloudwolf | gigdy? |
| 17:38.42 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 17:39.11 | Dagmar | It means you deliberately left a boss extra tools for whipping your butt |
| 17:39.33 | Cloudwolf | <= confused i havn't run ulduar nor am i geared to run it |
| 17:39.34 | mikma | cloudwolf: depends of the fight. you leave some minibosses up like with Sartharion and get better lewt |
| 17:39.38 | Cloudwolf | is there something special you have to do? |
| 17:39.47 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 17:39.57 | Iriel | Adys: The -delete option alestane suggested is cleaner than the rm, if you have a find that supports it |
| 17:40.07 | Dagmar | Things like, talk to the guy who spawns the killer towers and then leave them there during the Flame Leviathan fight |
| 17:40.09 | Iriel | Adys: Since that avoids a fork/exec for every file |
| 17:40.19 | Adys | oh, I wasnt reading |
| 17:41.17 | Iriel | I'm not sure if that's specific to certain find implementations or if it's always been there, if it's the latter I feel like i've been an idiot for 18 years 8-) |
| 17:42.14 | ZorbaGama | cloud, in several fights there are various things you have to do differently |
| 17:42.15 | alestane | I'm out for a while folks, got to work. |
| 17:42.27 | ZorbaGama | for example, in XT-002, you have to kill his heart when it's exposed. it depends on the fight, really |
| 17:43.36 | Adys | iriel/alestane, yeah that was a LOT faster |
| 17:43.44 | Adys | ~half a sec instead of 40 sec =P |
| 17:43.53 | Iriel | I'm a fan of -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
| 17:44.06 | Iriel | which should have comparable (but probably not quite as good) speed |
| 17:44.24 | Iriel | but is more easily generalized to other mass update/read commands |
| 17:44.27 | zenzelezz | Iriel: be careful with -delete on find... I only tried it once, but it ended up deleting all files, not just those I expected :-p |
| 17:44.44 | Cloudwolf | what are you guys talking about? |
| 17:44.56 | Iriel | zenzelezz: As I said earlier (1) -type f is important (2) run a test with -print first to make sure you got the clause right |
| 17:45.07 | Iriel | Under all circumstances, find will ruthlessly do what you asked it to |
| 17:45.37 | zenzelezz | Iriel: I first did a regular find, then simply tossed -delete on it :-p Didn't read the documentation well enough first, then I couldn't be bothered |
| 17:46.01 | Iriel | zenzelezz: In other words you're saying "I deserved it" ? |
| 17:46.23 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:46.39 | zenzelezz | Iriel: but more to the point, I was saying "don't make the same mistake I did" |
| 17:50.21 | Iriel | zenzelezz: I remember a line from many years ago (probably a usenet .sig) -- There are two types of unix user, those who have done rm -rf * in the wrong place, and those who will. |
| 17:50.37 | zenzelezz | Iriel: hehe |
| 17:50.49 | Iriel | I'm firmly in the first camp. |
| 17:51.17 | Iriel | "Hm, that rm shouldn't take that long.... oh crap" |
| 17:51.35 | Cloudwolf | i realy gota gear up... |
| 17:51.39 | zenzelezz | I can't rememeber if I am, but it wouldn't surprise me. I know for a fact I have use a setup CD at least twice to fix up an unsuccessful kernel compile (such as forgetting to include the right file system) |
| 17:51.47 | Iriel | One of the reasons I like source control so much, preferably with the repo on a different machine from my login prompt |
| 17:52.13 | Iriel | Re-ip'ing a host across a WAN and screwing it up is another fun one |
| 17:52.25 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 17:53.31 | Iriel | I did successfully replace redhat with debian on a machine in Texas while I was in California without screwing it up, I'm still pleased with myself for getting that right. |
| 17:54.06 | pastamancer | deleting /lib is always a good time |
| 17:54.14 | Iriel | pastamancer: ooh, yeah, or /bin |
| 17:54.34 | Dagmar | Good lord adobe's flash editor is massive |
| 17:54.37 | zenzelezz | a co-worker told a funny story a while ago... an admin-type person on his former workplace was fired, and the boss decided to change the root password on all 40-ish servers so he couldn't access them afterwards. What the boss didn't realize was that all the passwords were already random and not known to anyone, and the admins only used personal accounts with sudo |
| 17:54.39 | Iriel | Moving /lib to a non boot drive is fun too |
| 17:55.27 | Dagmar | s/fun/badly planned/; |
| 17:55.34 | pastamancer | it's actually possible to recover from deleting /lib without booting off rescue media assuming your distro isn't retarded and /bin and /sbin really are statically linked |
| 17:55.58 | Dagmar | If you're at a point you have to move /lib like that, you've done something to make god angry |
| 17:56.19 | pastamancer | in my case, it was a classic misplaced rm |
| 17:56.34 | Iriel | pastamancer: This is true,; though it depends how clean your /etc/init scripts are |
| 17:56.48 | mikma | pastamancer: rm -rf * .txt ? |
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| 17:59.35 | mikma | zenzelezz: so.. no-one actually knew the root password to all servers, and in that case they are fucked anyway. |
| 18:00.07 | Dagmar | If they had sudo access they probably didn't need it |
| 18:00.33 | Dagmar | In a properly locked down setup, the root password is generally going to be inaccessible without at least two people being involved |
| 18:00.41 | zenzelezz | mikma: all the people who previously had access still had access. They use sudo for everything |
| 18:00.55 | mikma | and? |
| 18:01.11 | zenzelezz | mikma: so changing the *root* password didn't change anything |
| 18:01.33 | Shirik|zZz | sudo uses your password, not root's |
| 18:01.35 | Iriel | It's like changing the locks on an office building btu forgetting to tell the receiptionist someone doesnt' work there anymore |
| 18:01.54 | Iriel | Under normal circumstances they still just walk in |
| 18:01.57 | mikma | meh, i always did 'su -' when i had to modify shit :D |
| 18:02.17 | Iriel | sudo -s -H |
| 18:02.29 | Shirik | I just do "su" >.> |
| 18:02.32 | Iriel | it's the new su - |
| 18:07.01 | augustl | selling 20 of the same item on AH is a pain |
| 18:07.11 | augustl | splitting in stacks, dragging one and one into the drop box. |
| 18:07.18 | augustl | anyone know 'bout some addons? ; ) |
| 18:07.19 | Dagmar | Get Auctioneer already |
| 18:07.26 | Iriel | Stack size 1, sell all, create auction, done |
| 18:07.29 | Dagmar | Just don't like, list 40 frostweave cloth in stacks of 1 |
| 18:07.32 | Iriel | Yes, Auctioneer is awesome |
| 18:07.48 | Iriel | www.auctioneeraddon.com |
| 18:07.51 | Dagmar | We should be able to get people 3-day'd for using that stupidly |
| 18:08.01 | augustl | Iriel: the "stack size 1" part is auctioneer, ya? |
| 18:08.06 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 18:08.13 | augustl | hawt |
| 18:08.34 | Iriel | Time to see if all my trash glyphs sold |
| 18:08.36 | Dagmar | It supports batch posting as well that makes my library of enchant scrolls viably vendable. |
| 18:09.18 | augustl | oh gosh that was a lot of addons |
| 18:09.27 | Iriel | augustl: it's very modular |
| 18:09.31 | Iriel | augustl: That's a good thing |
| 18:09.54 | augustl | I wonder how "!Swatter" is related to auctions, though, heh |
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| 18:10.09 | Dagmar | It catches errors |
| 18:10.11 | Iriel | It's a bug tracking addon, I think it simplifies their life in getting error reports |
| 18:10.18 | Iriel | s/bug/error/ |
| 18:11.00 | AbsolutRayne | Hmmm |
| 18:11.08 | AbsolutRayne | To Anchor my Frames, or not to Anchor... |
| 18:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | What-ev-er, Hamlet. :) |
| 18:11.44 | augustl | do I need enchantrix, for instance? |
| 18:11.52 | mikma | AbsolutHamlet |
| 18:11.58 | mikma | HamletRayne |
| 18:12.03 | augustl | according to the auctioneer website, enchantrix is for showing disenchant info in the tooltips of items |
| 18:12.04 | Iriel | augustl: it depends what you sell, enchantrix can help give you the value of an item if it were DE'ed |
| 18:12.05 | p3lim | did ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed change? |
| 18:12.11 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Youre not going to goof with things, are you? Then comebitching you have to move it piece by piece. :P |
| 18:12.24 | Mikk | augustl: it'll tell you the disenchant worth of items... and provide models for buying |
| 18:12.32 | Mikk | i.e. "should i dis this item or vendor it?" |
| 18:12.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I move action bars and unit frames somewhat. Is that a problem? |
| 18:12.42 | Mikk | or "should i buy this item and dis it?" |
| 18:12.55 | Mikk | it also does prospecting |
| 18:13.00 | Iriel | The auctioneer folks are pretty smart (except for shirik) and dont throw in stuff without a good reason |
| 18:13.07 | Shirik | ~stab Iriel |
| 18:13.08 | purl | ACTION runs at Iriel with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:13.08 | augustl | hmm, "SideBar" isn't mentioned on the website |
| 18:13.09 | p3lim | id love a new _G dump |
| 18:13.14 | Mikk | Lies, they let me do stuff to the SVN |
| 18:13.14 | Lopeppeppy | And Shirik is just wicked smart, so that's different. |
| 18:13.20 | AbsolutRayne | From where they currently are in http://i41.tinypic.com/2poe44m.jpg :? |
| 18:13.25 | p3lim | havent been updated since 3.0.8 |
| 18:13.25 | Mikk | They can't be that smart |
| 18:13.25 | Iriel | Lopeppeppy: Exactly |
| 18:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne, no not really, except maybe those raid bars. |
| 18:14.22 | Cloudwolf | ugh at being 137 gold short... |
| 18:14.51 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: What's different? |
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| 18:15.38 | AbsolutRayne_ | NetBurp |
| 18:15.59 | Shirik | that would be a great name for an application |
| 18:16.03 | AbsolutRayne_ | It would |
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| 18:16.06 | AbsolutRayne_ | I should patent it. |
| 18:16.14 | Iriel | Trademark |
| 18:16.15 | Shirik | you trademark names, not patent :) |
| 18:16.16 | Iriel | Not patent |
| 18:16.20 | AbsolutRayne_ | <_< |
| 18:16.24 | AbsolutRayne_ | Sell it to AOL or something |
| 18:16.30 | AbsolutRayne_ | Im sure they still have some money left. |
| 18:16.46 | Cloudwolf | aol maybe you can get some new profit |
| 18:16.50 | Cloudwolf | rename it to NetBurp |
| 18:17.14 | AbsolutRayne_ | gets to uploading 9.2 |
| 18:18.03 | Iriel | WTB Auctioneer mode where you can give it default stack sizes for a class of item (Glyph, Scroll, Potion, etc) |
| 18:18.49 | augustl | in b4 interaction design! |
| 18:18.50 | Iriel | (and yes, I did just post a stack of a glyph I'd not tried selling before because I wasn't paying attention) |
| 18:18.51 | augustl | looks nice though |
| 18:21.08 | Shirik | Iriel? |
| 18:21.10 | Shirik | What do you mean |
| 18:21.22 | Iriel | Well, glyphs I sell singly |
| 18:21.28 | Iriel | it remembers I sell EACH ONE singly |
| 18:21.54 | Iriel | but doesn't (as far as I know, maybe i'm just not looking in the right place) have a place to say 'sell ANY glyph singly, by default, unless overridden at the glyph level' |
| 18:22.29 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7032#cmnt146857 |
| 18:23.09 | Shirik | nice jnwhiteh |
| 18:23.23 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 18:23.46 | Shirik | I don't know what people are complaining about |
| 18:23.59 | Shirik | I used an automatic updater on patch day, no problems |
| 18:24.03 | Shirik | >.> |
| 18:24.17 | Dagmar | disavows all knowledge of Shirik |
| 18:25.07 | Lopeppeppy | puts limburger in Shirik's air conditioner. |
| 18:25.14 | Shirik | :( |
| 18:25.38 | Iriel | He didn't use THAT updater |
| 18:25.50 | Dagmar | Better safe than sorry |
| 18:28.29 | foxlit | Meh, I vote we disavow him for not releasing THAT OTHER updater. |
| 18:29.10 | Lopeppeppy | Must not release what will bite users in the behind. BugsBGone |
| 18:29.49 | foxlit | must not release anything, then :) |
| 18:30.18 | Shirik | I'm willing to bite certain users in the behind :) |
| 18:30.58 | Lopeppeppy | Meeeep! |
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| 18:32.19 | ZorbaGama | sometimes I wonder what people think of me sitting there crafting literally hundreds of Nightscape Headbands |
| 18:33.25 | Dagmar | They think you're an enchanter |
| 18:33.58 | ZorbaGama | possibly, yes, although that character doesn't have any enchanting |
| 18:34.08 | Dagmar | Or they think "this mouse is tastier than my last one" |
| 18:34.09 | ZorbaGama | (I've paid a truly ridiculous amount in mailbox fees) |
| 18:35.12 | Dagmar | They should have kept things like that on the achievements page |
| 18:35.21 | Dagmar | ..where people could see it on Armory |
| 18:37.01 | Lopeppeppy | What *do* you make them all for, ZorbaGama? |
| 18:37.39 | ZorbaGama | lope, disenchanting, like dagmar mentioned |
| 18:37.48 | ZorbaGama | on my server, they craft for about 1g each and disenchant for about 2.7g each |
| 18:38.35 | Dagmar | If this were a game where you could drop stuff on the ground, then "vandalism by littering" would be a possibility |
| 18:38.35 | ZorbaGama | also, white bandit masks (same numbers) |
| 18:38.55 | kd3 | dagmar; that's what carpets of corpses are for |
| 18:39.04 | kd3 | has seen goldseller spam done in such a manner |
| 18:39.18 | Ackis | kd3: u buy gold susanexpress? |
| 18:39.31 | Dagmar | I should submit them a few more thousand broken orders |
| 18:40.34 | Dagmar | Sometimes I think they forget that while they might reach potential idiots with their spamming, they also reach cranks |
| 18:40.54 | Ackis | cranks? |
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| 18:41.09 | Dagmar | Yes, people like me who know transaction fees cost them money even when the transaction doesn't complete |
| 18:41.25 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:41.43 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, nice. |
| 18:42.26 | Dagmar | Yeah, I suspect there might be a reason that http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ has an option to just get names in bulk |
| 18:43.44 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: 9.2 can be Downloaded now :) |
| 18:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne, you're a peach. I'll take a look at it this week. :) |
| 18:47.16 | p3lim | was hooksecurefunc() changed in 3.1? |
| 18:47.51 | Iriel | p3lim: not that I know of. |
| 18:48.12 | Iriel | p3lim: HookScript was (so that its behavior in the absence of an original function is significantly less annoying) |
| 18:48.20 | p3lim | suddenly I cant hook ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed any more |
| 18:48.37 | Iriel | Did they change the SetScript to use the new XML function= syntax? |
| 18:48.47 | p3lim | no |
| 18:48.55 | p3lim | no that one |
| 18:49.07 | p3lim | ill double check tho |
| 18:49.19 | p3lim | nope, same as before |
| 18:50.20 | Iriel | What is the symptom of your 'failed hook' ? |
| 18:52.16 | p3lim | well I tried something as simple as hooksecurescript('ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed', function() print'test' end) |
| 18:52.26 | p3lim | nothing is ever printed when i test it ingame |
| 18:52.35 | Iriel | And you're looking at the correct chatframe? |
| 18:52.43 | Iriel | Have you tried ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed(nil) |
| 18:52.52 | Iriel | Just to see if the problem is your hook or that wow is not calling it? |
| 18:53.35 | tlund | what addons show LDB:s and are in a "bar" format? TitanPanel, Chocolatebar, (fubar, with broker2fubar), what else? |
| 18:54.08 | p3lim | using nil as an argument leaves an error |
| 18:54.18 | NeoTron | tlund: ButtonBin |
| 18:54.21 | p3lim | while using ChatFrameEditBox passes it but nothing happens |
| 18:54.34 | NeoTron | tlund: optionally can have any shape but still |
| 18:54.36 | tlund | NeoTron: it doesnt sound like a bar, is it i bar? :) |
| 18:54.39 | tlund | NeoTron: ah! |
| 18:54.47 | AbsolutRayne | Yay, ClassTimer Update ^_^ |
| 18:54.50 | Iriel | p3lim: but does the error case give you your 'test' in ChatFrame1 ? |
| 18:54.56 | NeoTron | by default it sets up three bars at the top of the frame with left/center/right alignment |
| 18:54.58 | AbsolutRayne | No more tracking of Pesky DoTs that arent mine! |
| 18:55.03 | p3lim | no |
| 18:55.24 | Lopeppeppy | Yay class timer update! |
| 18:55.37 | Iriel | And you did use 'hooksecurefunc' not the non-existant 'hooksecurescript' ? |
| 18:56.04 | p3lim | yes |
| 18:56.42 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne, where was it updated? |
| 18:56.53 | foxlit | p3lim: works for me |
| 18:56.54 | Fisker- | i am god |
| 18:56.54 | AbsolutRayne | WoWAce and Curse have it |
| 18:57.07 | AbsolutRayne | Fisker-: Youre quite little for a god |
| 18:57.14 | foxlit | hooksecurefunc("ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed", print); |
| 18:57.22 | Lopeppeppy | You know, that's not cool, because on Curse it's still showing as last updated 12/2/08 |
| 18:57.29 | Fisker- | well the real god doesn't exist, so i guess i'm infinitely much larger |
| 18:57.35 | Lopeppeppy | But when I click the More Information tab, it shows the more recent update. |
| 18:57.35 | Iriel | p3lim: do the following, (1) reload your UI, (2) function PTEST() print "test" end (3) PTEST() (4) hooksecurefunc("ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed", PTEST) (4) ChatEdit_OnSpacePressed(ChatFrameEditBox) |
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| 18:57.52 | Iriel | Make sure you get your 'test' output at step 3 and the 2nd step 4, which should really be (5) |
| 18:57.55 | Iriel | but I lost count |
| 18:58.03 | p3lim | sec bossfight |
| 18:59.37 | airtonix | tlund, dockingstation & ninjapanel |
| 19:00.36 | tlund | airtonix: thanks |
| 19:01.20 | p3lim | Iriel: got it working now |
| 19:01.29 | p3lim | Iriel: thanks for the help |
| 19:02.42 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Probably just databases out of sync |
| 19:02.54 | Shirik | it would make sense for that to be a low priority transaction |
| 19:06.43 | Lopeppeppy | True, still in "overwhelmed during patch week" mode no doubt. |
| 19:14.38 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way in Grid to display the group in which we are as it was possible in a release some time ago? |
| 19:14.57 | Shirik | yes |
| 19:14.58 | pb_ee1 | Plugin/Checkbox/... |
| 19:15.06 | pb_ee1 | Ho, how? |
| 19:15.17 | pb_ee1 | Couldn't find a way to :| |
| 19:15.30 | Shirik | grid->layout->raid->by group 5? |
| 19:15.50 | pb_ee1 | nah, I meant display the group in which I am AND displaying the layout by class for example |
| 19:16.05 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:16.08 | pb_ee1 | there was a checkbox to do so before, one of the most useful function of grid |
| 19:16.12 | pb_ee1 | Just disappeared :( |
| 19:16.14 | Shirik | do you really heal like that? |
| 19:16.35 | pb_ee1 | Group 5 + class? yeah |
| 19:16.36 | Shirik | (to answer your question, I don't think so) |
| 19:16.42 | pb_ee1 | :( |
| 19:16.46 | Shirik | what class are you |
| 19:16.48 | pb_ee1 | Priest |
| 19:16.54 | Shirik | you are broken |
| 19:17.01 | pb_ee1 | Don't think so :p |
| 19:17.22 | Shirik | how the hell do you use group-specific spells if you can't see what groups people are in? |
| 19:17.25 | pb_ee1 | But maybe it's the time to change |
| 19:17.28 | pb_ee1 | Exactly |
| 19:17.32 | pb_ee1 | Wasn't very important before |
| 19:17.41 | Shirik | well it used to be important with coh |
| 19:17.46 | Shirik | and I guess I never grew out of that |
| 19:17.51 | pb_ee1 | Never had group-CoH |
| 19:17.55 | pb_ee1 | Got it with the raid-wide |
| 19:17.56 | Shirik | I did |
| 19:17.58 | Shirik | :) |
| 19:18.00 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
| 19:18.08 | Shirik | I have pulled aggro on bloodboil with coh >< |
| 19:18.25 | Shirik | It is very odd being threat-capped as a healer |
| 19:21.52 | Shirik | ~dict impecable |
| 19:22.01 | Shirik | ~spell impecable |
| 19:22.08 | Shirik | ~dict impeccable |
| 19:22.14 | Shirik | ~dict peccable |
| 19:22.20 | Shirik | peccable is really a word? |
| 19:22.23 | Shirik | That's awesome |
| 19:22.45 | pb_ee1 | Sorry was fighting XT |
| 19:22.53 | Shirik | XT is so awesome |
| 19:23.16 | pb_ee1 | You are so awesome Shirik :D |
| 19:23.23 | Shirik | o.O |
| 19:23.40 | pb_ee1 | Just kidding. |
| 19:23.44 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:23.46 | Cloudwolf | burn |
| 19:23.55 | pb_ee1 | Kidding as well :D |
| 19:24.05 | Zootfizzle | I think Shirik is awesome! |
| 19:24.07 | Cloudwolf | kidding about kidding? |
| 19:24.21 | pb_ee1 | Btw I suppose i'm gonna change to the group 5 layout with the new GroupH |
| 19:24.23 | Zootfizzle | FOR ME TO POOP ON |
| 19:24.27 | Zootfizzle | <3 |
| 19:24.28 | kd3 | lmao |
| 19:24.29 | Lopeppeppy | Mpr? |
| 19:24.30 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:24.49 | Lopeppeppy | gets Shirik an umbrella. |
| 19:24.54 | kd3 | raaah, c'mon tomorrow. want to be a champion already so I can start my 150 day grind of champion's seals |
| 19:25.00 | Shirik | umbrella? |
| 19:25.08 | Cloudwolf | am i the only person who reads the fish called [Sewer Carp] as [Sewer Crap]? |
| 19:25.18 | kd3 | methinks that's intentional |
| 19:26.04 | Tem | kd3, 150 days? |
| 19:26.07 | Tem | jesus that's half a year |
| 19:26.14 | Cloudwolf | ~seen kd3 |
| 19:26.18 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowhead (2d 16h 32m 12s) #wowuidev (2d 16h 32m 12s) #wowace (2d 16h 32m 12s) #wowwiki (2d 16h 32m 12s). Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 1m, last said: 'methinks that's intentional'. |
| 19:26.27 | Cloudwolf | uh? |
| 19:26.28 | pb_ee1 | ~seen purl |
| 19:26.29 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (10d 15h 37m 26s) #botpark (10d 15h 37m 26s) #linuxfund (10d 15h 37m 26s) #waruidev (10d 15h 37m 26s) #how (10d 15h 37m 26s) #edev (10d 15h 37m 26s) #fossfund (10d 15h 37m 26s) #hosernet (10d 15h 37m 26s) #norganna (10d 15h 37m 26s) #ud (10d 15h 37m 26s) ##ducleague (10d 15h 37m 26s) ##kierra (10d 15h 37m 26s) #dub (10d 15h ... |
| 19:26.41 | Cloudwolf | ~seen jesus |
| 19:26.41 | purl | jesus <n=chatzill@189.192.244.176> was last seen on IRC in channel #gnu-kbsd, 283d 21h 32m ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 19:26.49 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 19:26.53 | kd3 | 5 badges a day... need 750 |
| 19:27.00 | Cloudwolf | whut? |
| 19:27.01 | kd3 | plus an additional 200 for all the small pets |
| 19:27.02 | pb_ee1 | 'hi, what can i do for ya?' |
| 19:27.02 | Cloudwolf | you need 750? |
| 19:27.10 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Argent_Tournament |
| 19:27.30 | kd3 | each racial mount + the flyer = 750 badges |
| 19:29.05 | Cloudwolf | that sucks |
| 19:29.12 | Cloudwolf | and its only like 5 badges a day |
| 19:29.21 | Lopeppeppy | Well, at least they're not trivial to get. You have to work for 'em. |
| 19:30.07 | Cloudwolf | I don't have that kind of commitment to dailies |
| 19:30.09 | foxlit | I'm sure they'll bail in some future patch |
| 19:30.26 | Cloudwolf | lua> 750/5 |
| 19:30.27 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 150 |
| 19:30.35 | Cloudwolf | lua> 150*13 |
| 19:30.35 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 1950 |
| 19:30.44 | foxlit | And add more rewarding dailies -- for instance, when that coliseum actually gets built |
| 19:31.32 | Cloudwolf | is the colloseum being built kidna like the doors to anquiraj or what ever it was called |
| 19:31.39 | Cloudwolf | where you had to do chains to get your server to open it? |
| 19:31.47 | foxlit | no. |
| 19:31.52 | kd3 | it's not like 2.4. it'll come in 3.2 |
| 19:31.58 | foxlit | Or not yet |
| 19:32.11 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy still has not explained the umbrella :/ |
| 19:32.20 | DWSR | can you replace /run local with /script? |
| 19:32.27 | kd3 | scroll up at what zoot likes you for, shirik |
| 19:32.37 | Shirik | what is /run local |
| 19:32.37 | Lopeppeppy | Um, 'cause Zoot was trying to crap on you? |
| 19:32.50 | Lopeppeppy | frowns at Zootfizzle. Bad Sprocket. |
| 19:32.54 | Shirik | that's /run with the first word in the script being local |
| 19:33.01 | DWSR | Ah. |
| 19:33.03 | Fisker- | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:33.06 | Cloudwolf | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=36375 of the owl |
| 19:33.07 | DWSR | oh, I see. |
| 19:33.08 | Cloudwolf | woo |
| 19:33.12 | Cloudwolf | horrible item!... |
| 19:33.19 | DWSR | sigh at line breaks taking up characters in macros. |
| 19:33.35 | Shirik | if they aren't characters, what are they? |
| 19:33.50 | foxlit | formatting! |
| 19:33.56 | DWSR | ^ |
| 19:34.09 | Shirik | so computers need magical space to store formatting |
| 19:34.10 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:34.12 | DWSR | 255 characters should not include \n\r\t. |
| 19:34.19 | Shirik | Reserved only for whitespace? |
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| 19:34.47 | foxlit | Yes, Shirik. Computers need magical space to store magical formatting :) |
| 19:34.53 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:34.58 | Shirik | I'll begin working on it |
| 19:35.01 | DWSR | How do addons create 'large macros'? |
| 19:35.10 | DWSR | ones that are >255 characters? |
| 19:35.13 | foxlit | You'll do no such thing! |
| 19:35.19 | Shirik | by inventing a new space to store it |
| 19:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Secure templates |
| 19:35.33 | DWSR | ah |
| 19:35.41 | foxlit | We've already suffered enough setbacks with you implementing things. |
| 19:35.49 | Shirik | hey |
| 19:35.59 | Kemayo | DWSR: And then have a "real" macro that just does /script ButtonForThatAddon:Click() |
| 19:36.00 | Shirik | my fault-tolerant RS-232 protocol is awesome |
| 19:36.12 | Kemayo | Or /click ButtonForThatAddon, event. |
| 19:36.14 | Shirik | fault-tolerant AND multiplexed! |
| 19:36.16 | Kemayo | s/event/even |
| 19:36.18 | pb_ee1 | Hum... not *that* easy to efficiently use the prayer of healing |
| 19:36.36 | VonhintenHOME` | wowmetersonline.com trying to load a script from alimama.cn ? Sounds like bad news |
| 19:36.39 | DWSR | too bad bartender doesn't do macros. |
| 19:37.21 | Cloudwolf | i never use macros... |
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| 19:37.31 | Cloudwolf | except for things like atlas loot |
| 19:37.35 | DWSR | I have a random mount macro that's currently 3 characters too long |
| 19:37.37 | Cloudwolf | which realy doesn't make sense :P |
| 19:38.09 | Cloudwolf | can macros read info from addons? |
| 19:38.15 | DWSR | sure |
| 19:38.20 | DWSR | They're just scripts. |
| 19:38.51 | Cloudwolf | how would you make a macro read info from an addon? like /use returneditem |
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| 19:39.03 | Shirik | you wouldn't |
| 19:39.46 | Cloudwolf | i see these random mount addons |
| 19:39.53 | Shirik | That's different |
| 19:40.01 | Shirik | you can call CallCompanion() |
| 19:40.05 | kollektiv | you can just setattribute the macro text |
| 19:40.20 | Shirik | that would be a bad way to do it, kollektiv, because it would break |
| 19:40.33 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.33 | purl | fisker- has karma of -6 |
| 19:40.37 | Fisker- | please Shirik :( |
| 19:40.48 | Shirik | no Fisker-, only at night |
| 19:40.48 | kollektiv | because of combat? |
| 19:40.53 | Shirik | yes, kollektiv |
| 19:40.57 | ScytheBlade1 | ...... @ only at night |
| 19:41.21 | kollektiv | well youre usually out of combat when you loot so itd be fine |
| 19:41.56 | Cloudwolf | unless your like me |
| 19:42.07 | Cloudwolf | who finds themselves accidently looting in the middle of a fight |
| 19:42.13 | Cloudwolf | cus a guy fled or fear got poped |
| 19:42.27 | kollektiv | you can queue it to do it after u leave combat i guess |
| 19:42.57 | DWSR | http://pastey.net/112630-36n4 <- How can I make this any shorter? |
| 19:43.02 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
| 19:43.05 | Fisker- | last week i saw a film |
| 19:43.19 | DWSR | I'm literally 3 characters too short. |
| 19:43.22 | kd3 | get rid of the semicolons? |
| 19:43.24 | DWSR | s/short/long/ |
| 19:43.36 | DWSR | kd3: Can you still have everything on 1 line then? |
| 19:43.40 | kd3 | yes |
| 19:43.43 | zenzelezz | I think you can lose some spaces too |
| 19:43.43 | Fisker- | i'm 3 semicolons too long down there |
| 19:44.13 | kollektiv | lose the space in callcompanion |
| 19:44.19 | DWSR | Is there a way to wildcard match as well? |
| 19:44.21 | kd3 | replied |
| 19:44.43 | DWSR | so I can just do Krasus'* |
| 19:45.29 | kollektiv | yeah |
| 19:45.31 | kollektiv | u could do |
| 19:45.44 | kollektiv | find(GetSubZoneText(),"Kras.*") |
| 19:46.00 | kollektiv | oh you want to negate it |
| 19:46.03 | kollektiv | itd probaly be longer |
| 19:46.48 | foxlit | DWSR: Remove some of the excessive parenthesis pairs. |
| 19:47.08 | DWSR | foxlit: Like around IsMounted? |
| 19:47.39 | foxlit | and the second if |
| 19:49.14 | kollektiv | you can remove the space after an if |
| 19:49.18 | kollektiv | if(...)then |
| 19:49.25 | DWSR | http://pastey.net/112630-36n4 <--- This still errors, says "Unexpected token near ')'" ... |
| 19:50.29 | foxlit | t[random(#)]) |
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| 19:50.50 | AbsolutRayne | Well that was odd |
| 19:51.02 | DWSR | foxlit: What's wrong with it? |
| 19:51.08 | DWSR | The last ) closes CallCompanion |
| 19:51.25 | foxlit | It's not the last ) I want to point out |
| 19:51.46 | DWSR | what then? |
| 19:52.01 | foxlit | (#) |
| 19:52.26 | DWSR | oh, need #t. |
| 19:52.37 | DWSR | thanks |
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| 20:02.34 | mikma | any ways of knowing ingame when game is NOT the active window? |
| 20:02.42 | mikma | meaning, alt-tabbed to another one |
| 20:02.48 | foxlit | OnUpdates won't fire |
| 20:03.15 | foxlit | (I presume -- at least if game is minimized) |
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| 20:04.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:04.09 | mikma | well that won't do :( |
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| 20:15.05 | AbsolutRayne | This is driving me crazy -_- |
| 20:17.34 | Lopeppeppy | What's that? |
| 20:18.07 | foxlit | So, running through the brann quest chains again. |
| 20:18.46 | foxlit | Wonder how much of the temple.guardian stuff is loken's fault. |
| 20:19.44 | AbsolutRayne | Seems like im not the only twit with this issue. |
| 20:20.03 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: If I run in Windowed, and I tab out of the game and back in, the screen goes white, black, and WoW Crashes |
| 20:20.13 | AbsolutRayne | And my Toons are stuck until they log out. Cant touch em |
| 20:23.27 | AbsolutRayne | People are having it with and without tabbing. Super Odd O_o |
| 20:24.07 | Dagmar | No crashes like that last night |
| 20:26.28 | Lopeppeppy | I run windowed, and I pop in and out all the time. At least, I was earlier when I logged in, I was downloading addons and respeccing and stuff. |
| 20:27.38 | DWSR | I run in full screen and get the same responsiveness when switching focus as I do with other windowed applications. :P |
| 20:27.52 | DWSR | Not to be infantile, but I believe the phrase 'neener neener' is appropriate here. |
| 20:28.46 | AbsolutRayne | I have a feeling its OS related |
| 20:28.51 | AbsolutRayne | Most of the people in this thread are using Vista |
| 20:30.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yeah, ouch. |
| 20:34.04 | theorbtwo | I've noticed that switching from full-screen back to normal applications is much faster if you aren't changing resolution. |
| 20:34.36 | zenzelezz | much faster how - faster than it used to? |
| 20:35.12 | Dagmar | Takes about three faps |
| 20:35.21 | theorbtwo | zenzelezz: Make sure wow and your desktop use the same resolution, and alt-tabbing will be very fast compared to if they are using the same resolution. |
| 20:36.17 | zenzelezz | "Scarab Lord Pirokinesis <Is emo and went casual>" o_O |
| 20:36.55 | Fisker- | likes zenzelezz |
| 20:36.57 | zenzelezz | theorbtwo: did you mean to say "compared to if they are NOT using the same"? |
| 20:37.08 | theorbtwo | zenzelezz: Er, thanks. |
| 20:37.53 | zenzelezz | but yeah, I can imagine it would be faster if they're the same. Then it doesn't (or shouldn't) have to talk to the monitor to adjust, reposition/resize windows, and so on |
| 20:38.22 | theorbtwo | zenzelezz: The silly bit is that it didn't need to reposition/resize windows anyway, because those windows weren't visible. |
| 20:42.35 | Trela | Argh, I really hate AddOns that yell, "OMGZ OH NOES I HAVE LOADED!" when loading WoW. I only want to know if it failed to load. x.x |
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| 20:44.03 | airtonix | Trela, zomg i have entered! |
| 20:44.14 | Trela | OH NOES! |
| 20:44.27 | Trela | Auctioneer, notorious for that... Spam for every module. |
| 20:44.28 | airtonix | <paniced scramble around the room> |
| 20:44.45 | airtonix | stop, drop & roll |
| 20:44.48 | Trela | I made a script that automatically strips that shit out of Auctioneer. |
| 20:45.35 | Dagmar | Id' say code a module that gives people an API call for that kind of information, but there'd be no way to ensure it loaded at th eproper time I think |
| 20:46.08 | airtonix | or you could just use : addon.db.profile.SPAMZORONENTORZ = false |
| 20:46.47 | AbsolutRayne | Reading through the Tech Support forums, it seems like people are having A LOT of Memory Issues since 3.1 O_o |
| 20:48.09 | Trela | Memory issues that causes their computer to reboot? |
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| 21:10.54 | ZorbaGama | I've got some friends who work at Cryptic. they say that quite frequently they get crash dumps that are just, yep, you've got corrupted memory |
| 21:11.16 | ZorbaGama | here's the integer that got passed, here's the next function call, here's the bit that got flipped. Buy better RAM next time. |
| 21:11.40 | zenzelezz | "By the time you see the core dump, it's already too late." |
| 21:11.41 | ZorbaGama | I think it happens far more than people realize - it's just that most game data can be corrupted slightly without causing errors. Perhaps 3.1 has more compressed data and less raw data. |
| 21:11.57 | Dagmar | Could be |
| 21:12.20 | ZorbaGama | I know that QH tends to expose RAM issues, since it uses a bunch of memory on things that aren't textures or models or other similarly-error-resistant data :P |
| 21:12.41 | ZorbaGama | (I've actually got a few complaints that QH causes RAM failures. no, the failure was there already) |
| 21:12.56 | Dagmar | heheh |
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| 21:15.11 | jnwhiteh | Any Vista-heads here? |
| 21:15.15 | jnwhiteh | tough for me to offer support for this guy |
| 21:15.32 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=128840&postcount=6 |
| 21:16.03 | mikma | jnwhiteh: lol it's the virtual shit most likely |
| 21:16.13 | jnwhiteh | no, he's in the right area |
| 21:16.14 | jnwhiteh | it seems |
| 21:16.32 | Lopeppeppy | He hasn't posted a .toc file. |
| 21:16.43 | Lopeppeppy | Send him to Lunessa's troubleshooting vista thread on UI/Macros forum. |
| 21:16.47 | Dagmar | He's installed the thing in the wrong place |
| 21:16.59 | Lopeppeppy | Or hasn't unzipped it properly. |
| 21:17.03 | Lopeppeppy | Those are the only two answers. |
| 21:17.26 | Dagmar | Doesn't exactly help that at the outset Vista used the user-local location for addons, and then they worked aroujnd it so people would only have to know the one location |
| 21:17.34 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=128840#post128840 is the trhead |
| 21:18.25 | AbsolutRayne | Super Boredom @_@ |
| 21:18.36 | Lopeppeppy | Server error, jnwhiteh, I can't even get to the links to get them to him. :( |
| 21:18.44 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 21:18.46 | Dagmar | Mebbe recommand 7zip for the people too dim to handle the idea of decompressing files |
| 21:19.01 | jnwhiteh | 7zip isn't any easier than double-clicking : |
| 21:19.01 | jnwhiteh | P |
| 21:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | Double click does not decompress the file, jnwhiteh. At least not for me. |
| 21:20.35 | Lopeppeppy | It shows me what is inside, but does NOT decompress it. |
| 21:20.41 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 21:20.41 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 21:20.43 | jnwhiteh | that's his issue then |
| 21:20.48 | jnwhiteh | as he just responded |
| 21:20.53 | jnwhiteh | When I double-click to decompress it just opens the folder and it says the parts i.e. A,B,C,D,E and Lightheaded and it has the Text document but it's still compressed. For all the rest of my addons it says File folder w/out the size but LH says compressed (zipped) along with the size (10,031 KB). |
| 21:21.25 | Dagmar | He's not a smart one. |
| 21:22.03 | Dagmar | Windows by default treats zip files as "compressed folders" so when you double-click them all it does is show you their contents |
| 21:22.07 | Dagmar | Oh, and it's slow as hell. |
| 21:22.26 | Lopeppeppy | I gave him the link to my troubleshooting guide. I'd have pasted it in, but a) it's huge, and b) the forums are down, I can't get to it. :) |
| 21:22.33 | Dagmar | Tell 'em install 7-zip, then right click on the zip file, select "Extract to..." find addons directory, bob's yer uncle |
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| 21:23.54 | Adys | anyone remembers any item with negative resistances? |
| 21:24.25 | zenzelezz | Adys: that reduces your resistance(s)? |
| 21:24.32 | Adys | y |
| 21:25.15 | jnwhiteh | Adys: |
| 21:25.15 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=27;crs=5;crv=0 |
| 21:25.24 | Adys | tyvm |
| 21:25.27 | jnwhiteh | thats the only item re: wowhead |
| 21:25.30 | Adys | ah |
| 21:25.31 | Adys | no |
| 21:25.39 | Adys | was talking about actual stat |
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| 21:25.41 | jnwhiteh | its the only one tho, which means there aren't any =) |
| 21:25.43 | jnwhiteh | yeah i know |
| 21:25.45 | jnwhiteh | its the best i found |
| 21:26.02 | Adys | hmm its odd |
| 21:26.04 | Adys | i remember some.. |
| 21:26.49 | zenzelezz | sure it was resistance and not defense? |
| 21:27.00 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen a shield with shadow power on it... but I've not seen a "reduces X stat" thing. |
| 21:27.16 | jnwhiteh | there are other stat reducing things |
| 21:27.24 | jnwhiteh | just never seen one that reduces resitatance |
| 21:27.27 | Dagmar | There's a few items out there that reduce stats |
| 21:27.38 | Dagmar | Yeah I've never seen one that reduces resistances either |
| 21:29.47 | dolseni | [04:25:35] <Wobin> how about... Routes? |
| 21:29.53 | dolseni | oh wow, routes has finally been updated |
| 21:29.54 | Adys | maybe it was other stats yeah |
| 21:29.57 | Adys | remember any of those? |
| 21:30.00 | dolseni | i used that waaaay back before it broke |
| 21:31.38 | zenzelezz | Adys: not really items, but the disgusting oozling reduces your defense rating a little |
| 21:32.01 | zenzelezz | can't think of anything else except maybe consumables of some sort |
| 21:34.48 | zenzelezz | Adys: out of curiosity, how come? |
| 21:35.01 | Adys | just wondering |
| 21:35.27 | Dagmar | http://thottbot.com/i2226 |
| 21:35.28 | Dagmar | There's one |
| 21:36.20 | zenzelezz | oh, if you mean just any stat (not just defensive ones), then there are a few |
| 21:36.52 | jnwhiteh | quite a few, actually |
| 21:37.13 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22691 for one :P |
| 21:37.27 | Adys | doh |
| 21:37.35 | Adys | was that one i was thinking of |
| 21:38.44 | Cloudwolf | dododododo.... |
| 21:41.52 | zenzelezz | I still wish the Ashbringer had stayed in players' hands and would be able to be turned into a pure version instead of being passed on to Fordring :-/ |
| 21:41.52 | Cloudwolf | rofl |
| 21:42.02 | Cloudwolf | it costs 54silver to fly from dalaran to the argent dawn event |
| 21:42.12 | Cloudwolf | but 60 silver to fly from the argetn dawn event to dalaran |
| 21:44.13 | Cloudwolf | lua> 5*5/2+3-1^2 |
| 21:44.14 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: 14.5 |
| 21:44.23 | Cloudwolf | is there a symbol to root something? |
| 21:45.58 | Cloudwolf | lua>root |
| 21:45.58 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: nil |
| 21:46.04 | foxlit | yes... and no. |
| 21:46.07 | Cloudwolf | ugh time to go look at pil |
| 21:46.09 | Cloudwolf | ~pil |
| 21:46.10 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 21:46.29 | zenzelezz | lua> math.sqrt(100) |
| 21:46.29 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: 10 |
| 21:47.45 | Kraft | lua> 100^0.5 |
| 21:47.46 | lua_bot | Kraft: 10 |
| 21:48.18 | Cloudwolf | O.o wow i should have realized but didn't that half an exponent would root hmm |
| 21:48.42 | Dagmar | 1/2 = .5 alrighty |
| 21:48.50 | Cloudwolf | would be nice if there was actualy a mathmatical operator for it tho heh and i don't think i could find one on my keyboard as it is |
| 21:49.17 | Dagmar | sqrt() in most languages |
| 21:49.23 | Cloudwolf | dagmar 9*.5 != 9^.5 |
| 21:49.37 | Dagmar | OH NO |
| 21:49.45 | Dagmar | No WONDER I got an F on the GSAT |
| 21:49.56 | Kraft | whats a GSAT? |
| 21:50.05 | Cloudwolf | ghetto SAT? |
| 21:50.10 | Kraft | lol |
| 21:50.19 | foxlit | Roots are powers, anyway |
| 21:50.27 | Kraft | powers are roots |
| 21:50.32 | Dagmar | Don't know where he got the idea that I was talking about something other than 1/the_root_formerly_known_as_a_number |
| 21:51.45 | Cloudwolf | internet sarcasm is a failure... |
| 21:52.07 | zenzelezz | who cares about roots, humans have Every Man for Himself anyway |
| 21:52.20 | Kraft | ? :o |
| 21:52.32 | zenzelezz | root... as in spells that immobilise you |
| 21:52.40 | Kraft | ahh |
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| 21:52.59 | Kraft | havnt played wow in a while >< |
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| 22:02.01 | jnwhiteh | "I don't understand your donations box. What is this for? Why are you no longer available to download. Do you now charge? If so how much and why?" |
| 22:02.03 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 22:02.27 | Cloudwolf | lol? |
| 22:02.33 | Cloudwolf | jnwhiteh who said htat? |
| 22:02.37 | Nechckn | "$500USD for 6 months, sir. Thank you." |
| 22:02.46 | Cloudwolf | im confused... |
| 22:02.47 | Lopeppeppy | Donation /= charge. *facepalm* |
| 22:02.52 | Nechckn | There you go, jnwhiteh... all ready for you to send them =) |
| 22:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | I really think that someone with a grudge has been trolling the addon sites lately with that kind of stuff. |
| 22:03.05 | Cloudwolf | are you talking about the donation pop up? |
| 22:03.20 | Nechckn | they most likely are... it is funny, though |
| 22:03.42 | Nechckn | Maybe it was downloading in the background and the pop-up spooked them |
| 22:04.21 | foxlit | Should the download fail in any way, the wowi overlay looks like "gimme money to download!" |
| 22:04.24 | Cloudwolf | if you read it it says would you like to donate to keep good addons like these up to date type of thing |
| 22:04.40 | Nechckn | We actually had to re-word/clarify to minutia, our download donation request, since IE has that wee box at the top that you have to click to download most things. |
| 22:04.44 | foxlit | (But nobody reads what it says -- years of training to ignore popups) |
| 22:04.57 | Nechckn | That was back a few months ago, when someone sent us quite the same message. |
| 22:05.18 | Cloudwolf | lol its why i use firefox most of the time |
| 22:06.05 | Nechckn | Cloudwolf well, it's actually good, so folks are not getting crap they don't want. It's just bad when they haven't realized it after it being around for years now. |
| 22:06.39 | Arrowmaster | kinda nervious right now, just emailed off my resume to a fairly large local company for an entry level network tech position |
| 22:06.39 | Cloudwolf | the pop up bar agitates me |
| 22:06.48 | Zootfizzle | Good luck Arrowmaster! |
| 22:07.23 | Lopeppeppy | My fingers are crossed for you and your resume, Arrowmaster. |
| 22:07.37 | Nechckn | I like that feeling... mysteriously. Anyway- good luck!! |
| 22:07.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone know if tehre's a way to disable the action bar swapping for a specific bar in Dominos? |
| 22:08.06 | NightHawkTheSane | (er, action bar swapping on talent swap) |
| 22:08.28 | Arrowmaster | one major problem is i dont know how the hell i would handle a job with normal hours |
| 22:08.44 | jnwhiteh | you get used to it =) |
| 22:09.15 | Nechckn | Use coffee wisely. |
| 22:09.18 | ZorbaGama | I now have 1,420 bolts of mageweave |
| 22:09.31 | Arrowmaster | coffee is how i got through highschool |
| 22:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Arrowmaster, if you get one, you'll adjust. |
| 22:09.57 | Nechckn | And when you get that "Hey, we need one more for <you_name_it>" Just as you are about to log off... just say No! |
| 22:10.02 | Dagmar | ZorbaGama: Time to make that zeppelin |
| 22:10.15 | ZorbaGama | dagmar, I would totally craft a zeppelin if I could. |
| 22:10.42 | Nechckn | $$ to play WoW is more important than playing WoW. Well, something like that... |
| 22:10.56 | Arrowmaster | i dont even play wow anymore |
| 22:10.58 | Cloudwolf | but what if you get the cash to play wow but never get to play wow? |
| 22:11.44 | Arrowmaster | although i just started working on an addon that cant even efectively test because a great idea came to me and the chalenge excited me |
| 22:11.50 | Nechckn | You can insert any other variable for <play WoW> and <playing WoW>, too. |
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| 22:12.51 | Nechckn | It's nice to have $$ for eating and stuff, in addition to playing WoW. =) |
| 22:13.07 | Nechckn | maybe rent/mortgage on occassion |
| 22:13.15 | Nechckn | perhaps some electrcity |
| 22:13.21 | Arrowmaster | so what keybindings will always refer to bonusbar:5 when its available? |
| 22:13.50 | Lopeppeppy | ... the ones you bind to it? |
| 22:13.56 | Lopeppeppy | is so confused. That must be a trick question. |
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| 22:14.56 | foxlit | Did they patch the Thorim model in 3.1? |
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| 22:18.02 | Fisker- | ye |
| 22:18.09 | Cloudwolf | thorim model? |
| 22:18.14 | Fisker- | he took on a lot of weight and got some new clothes |
| 22:18.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah2] by ChanServ |
| 22:18.44 | Cloudwolf | link? |
| 22:19.14 | zenzelezz | Seerah seems to have developed severe split personality |
| 22:19.20 | Seerah | sighs |
| 22:19.33 | Seerah | router issues - can't get the DSi an IP |
| 22:20.19 | Cloudwolf | hey fisker can you get a screenshot or a link to the new thorim model? |
| 22:20.24 | tekkub | I don't see the point of the DSi |
| 22:21.11 | Dagmar | It's to trick those of us who know the DS's wireless stack is sh*t into shelling out $150 for a newer model that we're not sure is sh*t yet |
| 22:21.38 | tekkub | yea, the lite was *still* just b with no WPA support |
| 22:21.50 | Dagmar | Not even a complete/stable implementation of that |
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| 22:22.12 | Dagmar | There were a lot of things that would crash it, up to and including even slightly esoteric DHCP responses |
| 22:22.52 | tekkub | heh |
| 22:23.02 | tekkub | is the DSi still b also? wikipedia dun say |
| 22:23.40 | Dagmar | For awhile I was trying to find an exploit for it "just bcause" and then I decided absolutely nothing useful would come of it |
| 22:25.44 | tekkub | "The DSi supports WPA, but WPA and WPA2 support is not available with original DS games" |
| 22:26.03 | tekkub | ~networklayerabstractionfail |
| 22:26.04 | Corrodias | because nintendo was BRILLIANT and put the network code into each game, rather than the device |
| 22:26.25 | Dagmar | Some of it |
| 22:26.30 | Corrodias | enough of it |
| 22:26.35 | Dagmar | It looks like the IP layer is in the carts |
| 22:26.52 | Dagmar | The unit itself seems to handle a bastardized ethernet layer on it's own |
| 22:27.17 | tekkub | WPA's on the IP layer ain't it? |
| 22:27.47 | Dagmar | Not that I've noticed |
| 22:27.48 | tekkub | long time since I've done any serious networking shit |
| 22:27.51 | tekkub | :P |
| 22:28.01 | Dagmar | WPA should be happening as the authentication part of establishing the ethernet link |
| 22:28.04 | tekkub | when I did, wireless-b was just starting |
| 22:28.14 | tekkub | that's what I thought |
| 22:28.41 | tekkub | either way, can only hope that their next handheld gets wireless right |
| 22:28.48 | tekkub | since they can't seem to get it down in the DS |
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| 22:31.28 | theorbtwo | tekkub: I wouldn't bet on it; there seems to be some instutional thinking against OS-style abstraction layers. |
| 22:31.54 | tekkub | or they're just cheap ^^ |
| 22:31.58 | cbreak | must be ASM programmers |
| 22:32.31 | Dagmar | I think it was a matter of the person who drew up the deliverables list for the DS's wireless functionality only had a dim grasp of how it was supposed to work |
| 22:32.39 | tekkub | not interested in spending the time to do it right if it'll raise the cost of the unit |
| 22:33.27 | tekkub | besides, they're aiming to please kids here, not programmers |
| 22:34.07 | Gnarfoz | Zootfizzle: what can cause the WoWCombatLog.txt to be... incomplete? does it flush to disk badly when you reload UI? does it at all? :\ |
| 22:34.43 | tekkub | isn't it delayed-write independent of reload? |
| 22:34.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: when you kill WoW, it won't write out the log depending on how you killed it |
| 22:34.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And it is independent of the reload |
| 22:35.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's what I'm asking :\ |
| 22:35.16 | Gnarfoz | exited via: /exit + waiting 20secs, /exit + clicking the exit now button |
| 22:35.26 | Gnarfoz | and reloaded UI a couple of times |
| 22:35.36 | Gnarfoz | no "abnormal" exits |
| 22:35.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Chances are that you simply didn't start logging again |
| 22:35.56 | Gnarfoz | doing that automated |
| 22:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Which means it could be broke and you wouldn't know |
| 22:36.16 | dolseni | is there a command to save addon settings and preferences without logging out/back in? |
| 22:36.24 | ScytheBlade1 | dolseni: reloading the UI |
| 22:36.27 | DWSR | Dolby: reloadui |
| 22:36.28 | Gnarfoz | dolseni: /console reloadui |
| 22:36.31 | dolseni | or without reloading the ui |
| 22:36.34 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:36.34 | ScytheBlade1 | no. |
| 22:36.36 | dolseni | i thougth there was a quicker way |
| 22:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 22:36.43 | dolseni | =/ |
| 22:36.54 | DWSR | reloadui is pretty quick, unless your computer fails. |
| 22:36.56 | Dolby | no thanks DWSR |
| 22:37.01 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: could be, but then that would mean LoggerHead is broken and I'd not be the only one experiencing weird combatlogs :\ |
| 22:37.18 | Cloudwolf | reloadui is quick if your comp is good |
| 22:37.22 | Cloudwolf | and if you have like no addons |
| 22:37.29 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: reloadui is just as slow as logging in... it can take ages. 3.1 actually improved load times quite a bit |
| 22:37.34 | Cloudwolf | i run some big database addons QH Gatherer auctioneer |
| 22:37.39 | Cloudwolf | causes a little while |
| 22:37.41 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: No, reloadui doesn't reload textures. |
| 22:37.42 | dolseni | yeah |
| 22:37.42 | DWSR | afaik |
| 22:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | No, even if your comp is good it can be slow. Disable Recount and Auctioneer and bam, your reloads will be infinitely faster |
| 22:37.51 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: ? of course not, but you're missing what I'm saying. |
| 22:37.55 | DWSR | I run WoWKB, QH, Gathermate, auctioneer, lightheaded. |
| 22:38.00 | DWSR | It takes <30sec. |
| 22:38.09 | Cloudwolf | auctioneer qh lightheaded |
| 22:38.11 | Gnarfoz | <30sec is not 'pretty quick' |
| 22:38.16 | Gnarfoz | with default UI it takes about 5 seconds :p |
| 22:38.17 | Cloudwolf | are all big database things |
| 22:38.32 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Yeah, but I run 5 big databases. |
| 22:38.35 | Gnarfoz | so what |
| 22:38.36 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:38.37 | DWSR | Which is probably 4 more than most people run. |
| 22:38.55 | Cloudwolf | gatherere QH and auctioneer for me so im about at where you are |
| 22:38.57 | DWSR | And I run like 220 addons ish |
| 22:39.08 | Gnarfoz | anyway, reloadui it is, it's not getting quicker |
| 22:39.09 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:39.12 | DWSR | indeed |
| 22:39.24 | Cloudwolf | i wish you could save global variables on a call |
| 22:39.33 | Cloudwolf | and not just login and log out and they would only save if the values had changed |
| 22:39.39 | Cloudwolf | so i don't have to deal with long ass logouts |
| 22:40.25 | Kraftman | long logouts? :o |
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| 22:40.48 | DWSR | ^ never have that problem |
| 22:40.56 | Cloudwolf | if i do a log out |
| 22:41.04 | Cloudwolf | it takes me about 15-30 seconds to get to the character page |
| 22:41.10 | Kraftman | :o |
| 22:41.11 | Kraftman | why? |
| 22:41.27 | Cloudwolf | its saving a lot of info |
| 22:41.28 | Kraftman | thats longer than it should take to log in? |
| 22:42.08 | Kraftman | i dont really see why saving a few tables would take that long |
| 22:42.32 | Cloudwolf | gatherer quest helper and auctioneer |
| 22:42.32 | Kraftman | unless the saving function is somehow really badly wirtten |
| 22:42.37 | Kraftman | written* |
| 22:42.50 | Dagmar | There's a LOT of data to parse |
| 22:43.11 | Kraftman | i can parse a dictionary of 140,000 words in 15-30 seconds |
| 22:43.23 | Dagmar | Good for you. It's a different type of operation. |
| 22:43.26 | DWSR | ^ |
| 22:44.01 | Kraftman | whats it actually doing that takes so long? |
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| 22:46.05 | zenzelezz | generating a textual representation of the table(s) and writing to the disk |
| 22:46.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah, logouts taking ages is nothing unusual |
| 22:47.39 | Kraftman | fair enough, i guess i've just never come across it before |
| 22:49.46 | Cloudwolf | using the character unstick feature hearths you now!? |
| 22:49.56 | Dagmar | It has for a long time |
| 22:50.14 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 22:50.14 | Cloudwolf | how long is a long time |
| 22:50.19 | Cloudwolf | it used to just tele you 5 feet... |
| 22:50.26 | zenzelezz | not in my experience |
| 22:50.28 | Dagmar | Since BC came out |
| 22:50.55 | Dagmar | During beta it would just move you a few feet, but they made it hearth sometime after that, before BC |
| 22:51.00 | Cloudwolf | ive had it tele me short distances sinceu bc |
| 22:51.18 | Cloudwolf | well gnomeregan is just gay then... |
| 22:51.32 | foxlit | It does both |
| 22:51.35 | zenzelezz | perhaps it's an educated guess as to whether it's possible to get you to a safe distance |
| 22:51.36 | foxlit | Depending on some things |
| 22:51.40 | Kaelten | hi hi |
| 22:51.51 | alestane | I think it may try to find you a clear spot nearby, but it's not very good at it. |
| 22:52.34 | Cloudwolf | well it sucks hard... |
| 22:52.42 | Cloudwolf | cus i got blocked by bolders... |
| 22:52.50 | Cloudwolf | so it hearths me to dalaran |
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| 22:56.38 | foxlit | It could be that the clear spot is a last resort if your hearth isn't on cooldown |
| 22:56.47 | Arrowmaster | i think everybody gets stuck there in gnomer until they learn |
| 22:58.21 | Cloudwolf | yeah well |
| 22:58.29 | Cloudwolf | the rocks fell and i walekd forward im like hey i can go through it |
| 22:58.38 | Cloudwolf | then the rocks became solid instead of just being solid tobegin with... |
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| 23:11.30 | Cloudwolf | i wonder ifyou do an unstuck in an instance no matter where if it hearths you |
| 23:11.38 | Cloudwolf | cus i just did one not in an instance it teled me a little |
| 23:11.57 | zenzelezz | were you off CD? |
| 23:12.02 | Cloudwolf | yes |
| 23:12.08 | Cloudwolf | i would |
| 23:12.14 | Cloudwolf | prefer to not hearth tho |
| 23:12.28 | Cloudwolf | especialy in a damn instance |
| 23:13.12 | Cloudwolf | I should stop speaking in fragmented sentences and just express my whole idea out in one or two sentences. |
| 23:14.52 | Cloudwolf | what does additional isntances cannot be launched, please try agian later even mean? |
| 23:15.43 | Lopeppeppy | Server hamsters are tired and can't open another instance of that dungeon right now? |
| 23:15.56 | Lopeppeppy | Or maybe you've had too many instances in a short period of time, that's also some limitation they have. |
| 23:16.06 | Cloudwolf | how can there be that many people in gnomergan... no one likes it |
| 23:16.37 | Lopeppeppy | Dunno. Ask a GM. |
| 23:17.01 | Cloudwolf | lol it fixed itself |
| 23:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | New shift of server hamsters. |
| 23:17.24 | Cloudwolf | well it was just a retarded calculatino on character unstuck |
| 23:17.39 | Cloudwolf | one more test when my hearthsotne isnt on CD |
| 23:17.43 | Cloudwolf | and see if it hearths me |
| 23:18.57 | Cloudwolf | what ever not worth it |
| 23:19.37 | Legorol | Cloudwolf: that message means you have entered 5 instances in less than an hour |
| 23:19.39 | Legorol | you can't enter more |
| 23:19.50 | Legorol | oh nvm, was confusing it with a different message >.< |
| 23:19.51 | Legorol | ignore me |
| 23:25.32 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 23:25.42 | Cloudwolf | Well it fixed itself even if that was part of it |
| 23:28.14 | foxlit | 800xp from 80 |
| 23:28.56 | Iriel | foxlit: sneeze on a murloc and you'll be there |
| 23:29.30 | foxlit | Indeed. Practically any action will award that much. |
| 23:29.38 | ZorbaGama | exploration! :D |
| 23:30.02 | ZorbaGama | one of my characters hit level 10 by discovering Ironforge, which is one of the more awesome levels I've gotten |
| 23:30.25 | ZorbaGama | I think he was a dwarf too, just to make it more ridiculous |
| 23:30.31 | Cloudwolf | lol where am i IRON FORGE DING cool |
| 23:30.33 | Iriel | I got 70 via discovery in shadowmoon on one of my characters, but it was somewhat deliberate |
| 23:31.25 | foxlit | Discovered Malykriss: The Vile Hold: 2200 experience earned |
| 23:32.12 | foxlit | was aiming for icecrown citadel, but meh. |
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| 23:54.37 | Cloudwolf | woo! 3 to 1 alliance wsg win |
| 23:55.22 | Cloudwolf | and dalaran lags horibly... |
