| 00:00.19 | Wobin | Dewin: hm not yet |
| 00:00.22 | kamdis | boo "Khait is having a rest. 3 new fights will be available tomorrow!" |
| 00:01.20 | kamdis | night folks, have a nice weekend. |
| 00:01.28 | Lopeppeppy | night, kamdis. Stay good. |
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| 00:02.40 | Jamash | remind me not to click on links in here |
| 00:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | Jamash, don't click on links in here. |
| 00:04.25 | Jamash | Lopeppeppy: Thanks! |
| 00:04.40 | Lopeppeppy | So totally welcome |
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| 00:14.25 | mib_r67yoa | hi all |
| 00:14.32 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 00:16.03 | mib_r67yoa | I have a little problem. I'm trying to modify zChat (which is based on Chatter) to my liking, and now I want to duplicate Chatters clickinvite feature - the one where if someone says "inv" or "invite" I can just click the text to invite them to my party |
| 00:16.37 | Lopeppeppy | Did you check to see how Chatter does it? |
| 00:16.40 | mib_r67yoa | So far I'm able to modify the "inv" to "[inv]" and make it clickable |
| 00:16.42 | mib_r67yoa | yeah |
| 00:16.56 | mib_r67yoa | but I'm unable to reproduce it |
| 00:17.56 | mib_r67yoa | I've implemented/extended (whatev:P) SetItemRef to catch my clicking the [inv] text |
| 00:18.04 | tekkub | so now... druid that boomy with the possible backup of resto |
| 00:18.13 | tekkub | should I gear him in +hit or no? |
| 00:18.21 | Lopeppeppy | tek, yes. |
| 00:18.22 | mib_r67yoa | but I can't seem to pass the player nick so I can use InviteUnit() |
| 00:18.23 | tekkub | *that's |
| 00:18.33 | Lopeppeppy | mib_r67yoa, you went beyond my skills about 3 sentences ago. |
| 00:18.40 | Lopeppeppy | looks around to see if anyone else is awake. |
| 00:18.46 | tekkub | so go for the +hit and just ignore the wasted budget when he's resto? |
| 00:19.21 | Jamash | tekkub: If you don't want to carry two sets of gear, sure |
| 00:19.36 | tekkub | I don't want to *buy* him two sets of gear |
| 00:19.38 | alestane | mib_r67yoa: You're going to need to store the toon name in the hyperlink. |
| 00:19.40 | tekkub | just hit 80 |
| 00:19.55 | tekkub | as we do heroics he'll get healy gear I'm sure |
| 00:20.13 | mib_r67yoa | alestane: yes, do you know how? I can't seem to figure out how they work |
| 00:20.15 | Lopeppeppy | tek, boomkin need +hit, like any other spellcaster. |
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| 00:20.35 | alestane | I don't remember the exact syntax, but it would be something like |HToonnick|h[inv]|h |
| 00:20.44 | Lopeppeppy | If you're gearing your alt spec, gear it like you mean it, bro! :) |
| 00:21.02 | alestane | Then, (I presume, never tried this), you'd get the content of the hyperlink passed to the handler. |
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| 00:21.14 | Kirov | |Hinv:Toonnick|h[inv]|h should work |
| 00:21.31 | mib_r67yoa | okay, I'll try that:) |
| 00:21.35 | tekkub | Lopeppeppy: well that's the thing... |
| 00:21.45 | alestane | But you'd also probably need to hook it at the chatframe level rather than the tooltip level. |
| 00:21.48 | tekkub | I'm gettging him gear, yes, but I really don't want to pay for two sets :P |
| 00:22.02 | Lopeppeppy | Then don't dual spec? |
| 00:22.05 | tekkub | so I'll just focus on boomgear |
| 00:22.09 | Wobin | damn these guild members running instances I can go in =( |
| 00:22.19 | Wobin | I'll never get any coding done this way =\ |
| 00:22.29 | Lopeppeppy | Then focus on boomgear and if they want you to offheal, they should either cut off-spec items in half, or not care if you're not a great offhealer. |
| 00:22.35 | tekkub | Lopeppeppy: I kinda have to gear out MY toon too here :P |
| 00:22.52 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, confused now tekkub, being quiet. |
| 00:22.59 | tekkub | we hit 80 |
| 00:23.03 | tekkub | Trey has no money |
| 00:23.05 | tekkub | he's the druid |
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| 00:28.15 | Jamash | so are you talking about crafted gear? |
| 00:28.30 | Lopeppeppy | Crafted gear could help the situation. |
| 00:29.55 | mib_r67yoa | alestane: It worked! Thank you very much :D |
| 00:30.15 | alestane | Which did? |
| 00:31.12 | Lopeppeppy | alestane rocks my world. |
| 00:31.42 | mib_r67yoa | |Hinv:Toonnick|h[inv]|h |
| 00:32.04 | mib_r67yoa | now I just gotta remove all my debugging info:p |
| 00:32.50 | alestane | That was Kirov, but glad I got the ball rolling in the right direction. |
| 00:33.09 | mib_r67yoa | hah, good point |
| 00:33.12 | mib_r67yoa | ilu kirov |
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| 00:37.37 | Legorol | Does the ~bible have example chapter(s) online? I want to show them to a friend, but I can't seem to find a link to any on the site. |
| 00:38.19 | alestane | What I am trying to figure out is WHY inv:name works. |
| 00:39.12 | mib_r67yoa | inv:name is passed to SetItemRef, so I can do InviteUnit(sub(link,8)) |
| 00:39.23 | mib_r67yoa | invite:name is passed to SetItemRef, so I can do InviteUnit(sub(link,8)) |
| 00:39.27 | alestane | Oh, you're implementing it yourself. |
| 00:39.42 | mib_r67yoa | yeah. I've also added alt click invite |
| 00:39.42 | MentalPower | anyone know of a way (besides "sudo pmset -a disablesleep 1" which is like using a cannon to kil a mosquito) to disable a macbook pro from going to sleep when I close the lid? |
| 00:39.48 | mib_r67yoa | it seemed the easiest way |
| 00:40.20 | Legorol | I'm surprised that custom words aren't stripped from hyperlinks |
| 00:40.23 | tekkub | MentalPower: don't close the lid |
| 00:40.23 | Legorol | that's really cool |
| 00:40.34 | MentalPower | ~lart tekkub |
| 00:40.34 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P tekkub' action |
| 00:40.45 | Legorol | MentalPower: pry out the small knob that detects lid closure |
| 00:41.03 | tekkub | MentalPower: they don't have settings for what to do when you close the lid in the power config? |
| 00:41.04 | tekkub | fail |
| 00:41.06 | MentalPower | no such thing on a MBP, its a magnetic sensor |
| 00:41.21 | MentalPower | tekkub: not that I can see |
| 00:41.22 | Legorol | then all you need is a very powerful magnet near your computer... oh wait |
| 00:41.34 | MentalPower | Legorol: :P |
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| 00:42.57 | Jamash | what's wrong with using pmset? |
| 00:44.01 | tekkub | MentalPower: http://semaja2.net/insomniaxinfo |
| 00:44.03 | MentalPower | Jamash: for one, I'd like to go to sleep manually once in a while, for another, commandline, eek :) |
| 00:45.10 | Jamash | tekkub: awesome, my mom could use that |
| 00:45.20 | MentalPower | tekkub: thanks! |
| 00:45.24 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 00:45.39 | tekkub | now then, I need a good COMPACT RSS reader for mac |
| 00:45.48 | tekkub | something akin to Klipfolio on winders |
| 00:51.00 | MentalPower | tests insomniax |
| 00:51.02 | tekkub | nothing? I hate you all |
| 00:51.43 | Jamash | doesn't use macs except when his laptop is broken. |
| 00:52.21 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub: o_0 i'm not sure what you mean by compact.. |
| 00:52.44 | tekkub | I mean like, 1-3 lines of ~10pt text |
| 00:52.54 | MentalPower | tekkub: I don't use RSS (exept for podcasts) never really got the hang of it, sorry |
| 00:53.05 | tekkub | something I could put in a corner or on the bottom of the monitor |
| 00:53.36 | tekkub | this is klipfolio: http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/3410589198/ |
| 00:54.38 | Jamash | a standalone app or a dashboard widget? |
| 00:54.52 | MentalPower | I can confirm that Insomniax works as advertised on a 17" MBP |
| 00:55.13 | Jamash | http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/news/rssreader.html |
| 00:55.29 | tekkub | standalone preferably, I hate the dashboard |
| 00:55.35 | Jamash | nevermind then |
| 00:55.44 | tekkub | if I need space I can add another damn monitor! |
| 00:56.10 | tekkub | I want something always-up or I forget to check it, and I need to for work |
| 01:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | http://test.runningrewards.com/vendor/add |
| 01:08.45 | NightHawkTheSane | http://joshua.schachter.org/2009/04/on-url-shorteners.html |
| 01:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 01:08.56 | NightHawkTheSane | er..ignore that first link, i have no idea how that got there. |
| 01:08.58 | NightHawkTheSane | >< |
| 01:09.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, right. |
| 01:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, i have some idea.. |
| 01:09.41 | Lopeppeppy | See? Fibber! |
| 01:17.53 | VonhintenHOME` | is it possible to have frames for multiple enemy mobs visible, that can be targetted? |
| 01:18.21 | kd3 | outside of the v key bars, not so much |
| 01:18.27 | NeoTron | so FIOS might be nice |
| 01:18.46 | NeoTron | but Verizon customer service makes Comcast look like CS gods |
| 01:19.09 | VonhintenHOME` | I would drop my comcast for FIOS in a heartbeat |
| 01:19.18 | NeoTron | I did |
| 01:19.21 | NeoTron | and now I'm paying for it |
| 01:19.24 | kd3 | I'd kill for fios |
| 01:19.25 | VonhintenHOME` | comcast can lick my sackalack |
| 01:19.30 | NeoTron | they won't send a fricking cablecard |
| 01:19.32 | kd3 | sighs at his pos 1.5/128 connection |
| 01:19.41 | NeoTron | you can't get to anyone that knows what the heck a cablecard is |
| 01:20.12 | NeoTron | and then yu find out they supposedly has one ordered from beginning of LAST week for April 14th |
| 01:20.47 | NeoTron | except we didn't know this and .. 14th is pathetically bad |
| 01:21.03 | VonhintenHOME` | meh, it's just TV |
| 01:21.11 | VonhintenHOME` | who has time for TV |
| 01:21.19 | NeoTron | my wife :P |
| 01:21.47 | NeoTron | internet works great |
| 01:22.07 | Lopeppeppy | Haven't turned on my tv all month, gonna cancel cable if I haven't still in 5 days. |
| 01:22.17 | NeoTron | TV has been so so and customer server is beyond awful |
| 01:22.45 | NeoTron | never dealt with a company that has anywhere near as bad service |
| 01:22.51 | NeoTron | and that's coming from someone that has dealt with comcast for many years. and at&t and other big bads |
| 01:22.56 | NeoTron | I would personally cancel TV if it was just me |
| 01:22.59 | NeoTron | but kids + wife makes that not a viable situation |
| 01:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | get your wife + kids to play wow |
| 01:23.49 | NightHawkTheSane | they wont have time for tv ;) |
| 01:26.29 | sacarasc | I watch TV while playing. |
| 01:27.25 | VonhintenHOME` | I wish I could, but I play on my 67", and it doesn't have useful PiP |
| 01:28.33 | VonhintenHOME` | (plus, Vista no longer supports hardware overlays, so I can't watch video's in WoW like I used to be able to) |
| 01:28.43 | VonhintenHOME` | (go M$!) |
| 01:35.06 | Corrodias | you could have comprimised content providors' copyrights! |
| 01:35.12 | Corrodias | that must be nerfed |
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| 01:52.24 | Jamash | You can't watch video while running wow under vista? |
| 01:52.40 | Jamash | makes me glad I have XP |
| 01:52.56 | Corrodias | he said -in- wow |
| 01:53.29 | Corrodias | i'm not sure what he's suggesting, though. |
| 01:55.48 | Lopeppeppy | Overlays, Corrodias, Vista doesn't do them the same. |
| 01:56.07 | Corrodias | i'm not totally clear on what overlays are, anyway |
| 01:56.21 | Corrodias | it seems like a very generic term meaning anything on top of something else, so that can't be it |
| 01:56.31 | Jamash | video memory overlays |
| 01:56.43 | Lopeppeppy | Corrodias, that's exactly it. |
| 01:57.05 | Corrodias | well, okay. i don't know how it'd work for videos, anyway. |
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| 01:57.19 | Jamash | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_overlay |
| 01:57.27 | Corrodias | is that going to explain it? |
| 01:57.33 | Lopeppeppy | The video window is permanently on top. So it shows "over" your wow, without windowed mode or focus issues. |
| 01:57.48 | Corrodias | (i'm putting a lot of attention into a game right now, and can't really read an article right now) |
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| 02:25.06 | Legorol | reminisces about the good old days... |
| 02:25.11 | Legorol | .. when we could still mod GlueXML |
| 02:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | When I enjoyed Tanaris |
| 02:25.46 | Legorol | I first started practicing UI modding by getting hold of a US WoW client back when it was still in closed beta, and I played with the login screen. I had no account to log in with :) |
| 02:27.40 | alestane | 50 xp for discovering an unused port? WTF?! |
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| 02:28.19 | Jamash | dang it aceevent, why you make me hit you |
| 02:29.36 | Corrodias | unused port? |
| 02:29.56 | Jamash | Steamwheedle? |
| 02:30.36 | alestane | Sorry, wrong game. |
| 02:30.46 | Jamash | trade wars? |
| 02:32.08 | alestane | Yes. |
| 02:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | Again? Still? |
| 02:35.56 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs the geeks |
| 02:41.08 | Jamash | why isn't PLAYER_LOGIN firing??? |
| 02:41.55 | Arrowmaster | did you register for it? |
| 02:42.02 | Jamash | yes |
| 02:42.05 | Arrowmaster | when? |
| 02:42.27 | Arrowmaster | are you using any frameworks? |
| 02:42.41 | Jamash | I'm trying to use AceEvent-3.0 |
| 02:42.54 | Arrowmaster | are you using aceaddon-3.0? |
| 02:42.59 | Jamash | yeah |
| 02:43.13 | Mr_Rabies | is there still a bunch of drama around ace and stuff |
| 02:43.14 | Arrowmaster | where exactly are you registering PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 02:43.23 | Arrowmaster | no there isnt |
| 02:43.25 | Jamash | and I'm registering for it in LearningAid:OnEnable() |
| 02:43.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah OnEnable() is run when PLAYER_LOGIN is fired |
| 02:43.49 | Jamash | bah |
| 02:53.02 | tekkub | you know.. I think Shirik has taken kergoth's role on IRC |
| 02:53.11 | Shirik | huh? |
| 02:53.15 | tekkub | he's always around and always willing to talk programming... |
| 02:53.16 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik is awesome |
| 02:53.27 | tekkub | but when I try to think of an addon he's written, I can't |
| 02:55.29 | Shirik | That's because I don't really have any public addons tbh |
| 02:55.54 | tekkub | see |
| 02:59.13 | Shirik | Is that a problem? |
| 02:59.22 | tekkub | YES |
| 03:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 03:01.02 | Lopeppeppy | More time to teach me. |
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| 03:35.09 | kd3 | ugh. share the love is pain and hatred |
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| 03:50.08 | kd3 | hm... part 2 of the background downloader is up |
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| 04:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | semi-nsfw: http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/hello-kitty-mens-underwear.jpg |
| 04:12.54 | ScytheBlade1 | But absolutely terrifying |
| 04:14.34 | |Jelly| | I can't believe I clicked on that. |
| 04:14.50 | ScytheBlade1 | You are now scarred forever |
| 04:14.56 | |Jelly| | Indeed. |
| 04:17.45 | Recompense | Dear lord, the juxtaposition... |
| 04:18.09 | Cairenn | unh ... |
| 04:18.18 | Recompense | And the worst part is that the link TOLD me what I was going to be looking at |
| 04:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Only have yourself to blame for that one |
| 04:19.31 | kd3 | yay at hayate second season starting to air |
| 04:24.18 | Arrowmaster | kd3: except like no good group is going to sub it =( |
| 04:25.07 | kd3 | SS-Eclipse is going to, afaik |
| 04:25.08 | kd3 | unless they suddenly dropped it after dong the ova |
| 04:25.22 | Arrowmaster | heard somebody ragequit on them |
| 04:25.39 | kd3 | gah, another group? gg ragequit a few eps from the end of maria+holic too |
| 04:25.41 | kd3 | sighs |
| 04:26.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah i still havent seen the end of maria+holic |
| 04:26.27 | kd3 | ggcaust did the last 3 eps |
| 04:26.45 | kd3 | which consists of the members of gg who actually did the work... |
| 04:27.16 | Arrowmaster | the first few ones of ggcaust posted up on TT were fakes though |
| 04:27.55 | Arrowmaster | hell somebody posted a ton of fakes on TT this morning of some new show, k-on i think |
| 04:28.08 | Arrowmaster | hate trolls |
| 04:31.28 | kd3 | which is why I've been checking anidb to see which groups actually released |
| 04:31.34 | kd3 | (it's only chihiro so far... bleh) |
| 04:33.00 | Arrowmaster | horriblesubs? |
| 04:33.11 | kd3 | speedsubbing, badly |
| 04:33.22 | Arrowmaster | horriblesubs doesnt even sub afaik |
| 04:33.31 | Arrowmaster | its crunchyroll rips |
| 04:34.15 | tekkub | I assume I can delete /Users/Shared/Blizzard/World of Warcraft after I've installed WoW, right? |
| 04:34.30 | kd3 | afaik ya. it should all be in /apps/ |
| 04:34.31 | tekkub | it's like 6GiB of install tome mpqs |
| 04:35.34 | tekkub | oh it cut off the end, it's World of Warcraft Installer |
| 04:35.38 | tekkub | yup, buhbye |
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| 04:44.39 | tekkub | in you head! zombie! |
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| 05:01.04 | Wraithan | Is MSBT not being updated on Curse anymore? |
| 05:01.44 | Wraithan | Ah nevermind |
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| 05:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Mah |
| 05:10.43 | ScytheBlade1 | *Man |
| 05:10.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I have this brand new computer |
| 05:10.59 | ScytheBlade1 | i7, 6GB of RAM, terabytes of HD space, GTX 260 |
| 05:11.02 | ScytheBlade1 | What do I play? |
| 05:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Classic Starcraft |
| 05:11.09 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:11.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Terran mission 3, go |
| 05:11.57 | Wraithan | Hey, is there a way to make an event trigger on combat exit in MSBT? |
| 05:13.55 | Ackis | alert: I sent someone to jail tonight! :D |
| 05:14.00 | kd3 | ! |
| 05:22.49 | durcyn | Ackis: domestic violence isn't so funny when you're on the receiving end, is it |
| 05:23.54 | Ackis | durcyn: lol :P |
| 05:25.10 | Ackis | it was a drunk driver :P |
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| 05:30.53 | Fisker- | harasses Ackis |
| 05:31.15 | Ackis | likes it. |
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| 05:36.13 | Jamash | so if I want to use a method as a callback, should I just wrap it in a little "function(...) obj:method(...) end" sort of thing? |
| 05:36.50 | ZorbaTHut | jamash, I do that pretty often. there's probably a more efficient way, but honestly it won't matter 99% of the time |
| 05:37.09 | Jamash | okey doke then |
| 05:37.37 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: did you hear the news? QH is a keylogger! |
| 05:38.05 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, man, I've been hearing that news for months now ;) |
| 05:38.24 | Ackis | zomg |
| 05:38.26 | Jamash | is it now |
| 05:38.42 | Jamash | I guess ZorbaTHut has all my passwords then |
| 05:39.11 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, stop using "p4ssw3rd", it'd be a terrible password even if I didn't have a keylogger on your computer >:( |
| 05:40.00 | Ackis | i tried penis, but it said my password was too small |
| 05:40.09 | Jamash | ~rimshot |
| 05:40.09 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
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| 05:42.20 | Jamash | so I'm testing my addon, and what do I find? bugs in the testing code |
| 05:43.23 | Ackis | wtf no unlimited data bundle for cell phones =/ |
| 05:43.43 | Shadowed | Anyone ever check if GetActionInfo works with companions yet |
| 05:43.46 | Shadowed | on PTTR |
| 05:44.11 | Ackis | Shadowed: mini-pets? |
| 05:44.15 | Shadowed | and mounts |
| 05:45.28 | Shadowed | OH SWEET |
| 05:45.37 | Shadowed | they did |
| 05:45.45 | Ackis | what does it do? |
| 05:46.02 | Shadowed | Currently if you use GetActionInfo on a button with a companion on it, it returns nothing |
| 05:46.05 | Shadowed | so you have to do a hack to find them |
| 05:47.02 | Jamash | cool |
| 05:47.31 | Shadowed | yay for that |
| 05:57.40 | Fisker- | hey Ackis |
| 05:57.43 | Fisker- | cash or credit? |
| 06:07.52 | Jamash | hooray, I've spent all day adding Ace to my addon, to no visible effect |
| 06:10.17 | Shadowed | then don't! |
| 06:11.11 | Jamash | don't what? |
| 06:11.22 | Shadowed | add Ace |
| 06:11.30 | Jamash | but I already did |
| 06:11.41 | Shadowed | sounds like you learned a valuable lesson for next time then |
| 06:11.49 | kd3 | >.> |
| 06:11.52 | Jamash | see, now that I've finished making it work exactly the same way it did before, I can start actually adding things |
| 06:11.57 | kd3 | laughs |
| 06:12.22 | kd3 | oh Shadowed didn't you know? adding ace automagically makes addons faster and use less memory! |
| 06:12.28 | Shadowed | absolutely |
| 06:13.00 | Cairenn | is very very confused - if something works, why then add more stuff to it that wasn't originally necessary and requires you to actually "fix" it to use the new stuff you just added? |
| 06:13.19 | Jamash | I think I've been misunderstood. |
| 06:13.40 | Cairenn | (2009-04-04 02:07:52) Jamash: hooray, I've spent all day adding Ace to my addon, to no visible effect |
| 06:13.40 | Cairenn | (2009-04-04 02:11:51) Jamash: see, now that I've finished making it work exactly the same way it did before, I can start actually adding things |
| 06:13.47 | Cairenn | what's to misunderstand? |
| 06:13.49 | Cairenn | it worked |
| 06:13.52 | Cairenn | you added ace |
| 06:13.59 | Cairenn | you had to "fix" it to work again |
| 06:14.02 | Jamash | right |
| 06:14.19 | Cairenn | just boggles |
| 06:14.37 | Jamash | but now that I have Ace integrated, I can start adding features that would have required an excessive amount of work beforehand |
| 06:14.49 | Shadowed | GUI? :p |
| 06:14.56 | Jamash | Config GUI |
| 06:15.02 | Shadowed | good use of Ace at least |
| 06:15.04 | Cairenn | right, but adding ace didn't require an excessive amount of work to "fix" |
| 06:15.16 | Cairenn | ... |
| 06:15.32 | Jamash | I spent about half of the time "fixing" and about half of the time "improving" |
| 06:15.47 | Jamash | it's now better (on the inside) but looks the same on the outside |
| 06:15.57 | kd3 | whee, 714MB of patch 3.1 ready to go |
| 06:15.59 | Cairenn | now, see, that isn't what you had said |
| 06:17.16 | Jamash | I know what I meant, but I don't know what you think I meant |
| 06:17.23 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:17.29 | Shadowed | She thought you added Ace basically for the hell of it |
| 06:17.30 | kd3 | makes an 'inconceivable' joke |
| 06:17.36 | kd3 | as did the rest of us |
| 06:17.39 | Shadowed | and that |
| 06:17.52 | Shadowed | And people don't typically like seeing others add Ace just because they can :p |
| 06:18.04 | Jamash | well, I was sort of implying that in a joking manner |
| 06:18.12 | Jamash | but apparently was taken seriously |
| 06:18.24 | Shadowed | one of the issues with IRC, tone doesn't communicate very well sometimes |
| 06:18.27 | Jamash | yeah |
| 06:18.27 | Shadowed | also, the fact that it's 11 PM |
| 06:18.40 | jnwhiteh | its 7.18am. |
| 06:18.41 | jnwhiteh | loser |
| 06:18.53 | Shadowed | shut up euro |
| 06:19.00 | Cairenn | 2:18am |
| 06:19.15 | kd3 | hm... yay for the curse client redlining one of my cores |
| 06:19.20 | kd3 | tries to figure out what's wrong now |
| 06:19.22 | Jamash | joy |
| 06:19.25 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:23.08 | Cairenn | umm, that can't be good |
| 06:33.26 | Fisker- | hey jnwhiteh |
| 06:33.28 | Fisker- | wanna make out? |
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| 06:35.32 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 06:36.01 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 06:39.16 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: fyi you could have used AceConfigDialog-3.0 without using anything else from Ace3 in your addon |
| 06:39.28 | Jamash | ah |
| 06:40.33 | Shadowed | except AceGUI-3.0! |
| 06:40.37 | Shadowed | and LibStub! |
| 06:40.43 | Shadowed | and AceConfig-3.0! |
| 06:40.57 | Arrowmaster | well you dont need AceConfig-3.0 |
| 06:41.06 | Arrowmaster | but you would need AceConfigRegistry-3.0 |
| 06:41.24 | Shadowed | and CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 06:41.42 | Arrowmaster | thats not part of Ace3 |
| 06:41.48 | Arrowmaster | just used by Ace3 |
| 06:41.59 | Shadowed | if you're going to be picky :p |
| 06:42.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:45.52 | Fisker- | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:58.13 | Jamash | so aceconfig "supports" the blizzard options frame in the sense that it sits inside it in an uncomfortable manner without actually integrating with it properly |
| 07:59.39 | Jamash | maybe I would have been better off rolling my own |
| 07:59.48 | nevcairiel | You can integrate it properly |
| 08:00.24 | tekkub | tekKonfig ^^ |
| 08:00.34 | nevcairiel | It just doesn't magically convert a tree-group into blizz-options-categorys |
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| 08:00.42 | nevcairiel | you have to do that yourself. |
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| 08:00.58 | Jamash | I mean it doesn't support ok / cancel |
| 08:01.08 | tekkub | ok/cancel is crap |
| 08:01.18 | Jamash | says you! |
| 08:01.22 | nevcairiel | Its crap indeed |
| 08:01.28 | tekkub | yes, says me |
| 08:01.34 | nevcairiel | However, you can code your options to support it, too |
| 08:01.59 | nevcairiel | Just don't hook your options directly into your SV, but in an intermediate table |
| 08:02.14 | Jamash | yeah |
| 08:02.32 | tekkub | I need a better background, no one liked my pedobear |
| 08:02.59 | Jamash | but then I have to distinguish in my code between the gui (with ok/cancel) and the text / menu modes without |
| 08:03.11 | Jamash | I had sort of assumed that the library would take care of that |
| 08:03.15 | nevcairiel | The whole "don't apply until clicked ok" drives me nuts, i wish i could turn that off for the blizzard options too |
| 08:03.19 | Jamash | my mistake, obviously |
| 08:03.38 | tekkub | the whole "undoes when you close via ESC" is what bugs me |
| 08:03.54 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 08:03.56 | Jamash | I like that |
| 08:04.09 | tekkub | I open the blizzy options, change something and SEE IT CHANGE, and then hit ESC cause it's the single universal way to close frames |
| 08:04.20 | tekkub | and now all my changes are fucking undone |
| 08:04.35 | Jamash | so write an addon that hooks into the escape handler and hits OK for you |
| 08:04.48 | tekkub | and taint the enitre UI.. |
| 08:08.13 | Jamash | I just wish they'd convert the keybinding UI to the new interface system |
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| 08:42.41 | mikma | what was the maximum amount of cash you can hold in WoW? |
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| 08:43.15 | Jamash | lua> 2^31 / 100000 |
| 08:43.15 | lua_bot | Jamash: 21474.83648 |
| 08:44.06 | Jamash | lua> 2^31 / 10000 |
| 08:44.06 | lua_bot | Jamash: 214748.3648 |
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| 08:44.06 | Jamash | that's better |
| 08:44.06 | Jamash | 214,748 gold |
| 08:44.07 | Jamash | and change |
| 08:44.23 | Thunder_Child | i would respectfully disagree, the uteris *is* a clown car. |
| 08:44.36 | Jamash | that's a long-delayed reply |
| 08:44.37 | mikma | what's the reason behind that limit? |
| 08:44.50 | Jamash | maximum value of a signed 32-bit integer |
| 08:44.51 | End | it's a signed 32bit integer |
| 08:44.51 | Thunder_Child | i just got home |
| 08:45.00 | End | Jamash: NO U |
| 08:45.03 | Jamash | U NO |
| 08:45.09 | End | WE YES |
| 08:45.39 | Jamash | YES WE AM |
| 08:45.54 | End | INDEED WE WAS |
| 08:48.07 | Jamash | Is there a library of categorized spell IDs? |
| 08:48.23 | Jamash | like, spell ID X is a tracking spell, or an aura, or a direct damage spell, etc |
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| 08:51.38 | nevcairiel | Not that i've ever heard of |
| 08:51.57 | Corrodias | weeeell, there's wowhead if you could call that a library |
| 08:52.00 | Jamash | lulz |
| 08:52.44 | Jamash | I'm adding a feature to scan the spellbook and the action bars to find spells that the player might have forgotten to put on their action bar |
| 08:53.17 | Jamash | but when I run it on my main, a level 80 hunter, I get a screenfull of tracking skills |
| 08:54.30 | Jamash | so I'm left with several options: "Working As Intended", let the user select a list of spells to ignore, or include a list of ignorables with the addon |
| 08:55.37 | Jamash | WAI is kind of lame, an ignore feature would take a fair amount of coding work, and a predefined list would take a fair amount of trolling through WoWHead |
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| 09:49.15 | TopTop18 | Eey all! |
| 09:52.12 | Industrial | lo |
| 09:58.08 | Shirik | Huh |
| 09:58.15 | Shirik | I thought you couldn't still get the "Hand of Adal" title |
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| 09:58.54 | TopTop18 | I don;t know if you could XD First time endgame now XD |
| 10:00.01 | Jamash | you can, if you had the quest before the patch, I think |
| 10:01.07 | Shirik | yeah I mean, I had it a long time ago |
| 10:01.16 | Shirik | I ported to shatt to check something and realized I never turned it in |
| 10:01.19 | Shirik | so finished up the line and got the title |
| 10:01.26 | Jamash | nice |
| 10:01.41 | TopTop18 | Cool |
| 10:04.02 | Shirik | it's so stupid |
| 10:04.11 | Shirik | we cleared BT for a good 2-3 months I think |
| 10:04.20 | Shirik | But I never went to the eye |
| 10:04.39 | Shirik | Actually I guess it was more than 3 months |
| 10:04.42 | Shirik | I don't really remember anymore |
| 10:04.46 | Shirik | anyway, Every time they decided to "go back to let people catch up" |
| 10:04.52 | Shirik | It was the week I posted "I'll be out of town" or something |
| 10:04.54 | Shirik | Such BS |
| 10:06.24 | Shirik | p.s. that quest is so broken right now. It took a lot of finagling to make it work |
| 10:06.47 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 10:08.12 | Jamash | my guild leader got credit for a quest that doesn't even exist anymore |
| 10:08.23 | TopTop18 | oO First time someone nhas found my lil addon developing alt in his nice lil inn room... |
| 10:08.30 | Thunder_Child | ~qq Shirik |
| 10:08.40 | Thunder_Child | damit purl, work again! |
| 10:08.55 | TopTop18 | ~QQ Shirk |
| 10:08.57 | TopTop18 | ??? |
| 10:09.01 | TopTop18 | What does it has to do? |
| 10:09.10 | Shirik | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 10:09.10 | purl | takes out a seltzer bottle and sprays Thunder_Child in the face. You know, one of those old-school seltzer bottles clowns have? Yeah those. Anyway, consider yourself spritzed |
| 10:09.29 | Jamash | He still had the quest Korrak the Bloodrager from old, old Alterac Valley |
| 10:09.35 | Thunder_Child | lart isnt a factiod as you well know Shirik, go diaf |
| 10:09.40 | Shirik | :P |
| 10:10.02 | Jamash | and I pulled him into a group for the Amphitheater of Anguish... |
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| 10:10.37 | Jamash | and he *got kill credit* for killing level 80 Korrak |
| 10:11.28 | Jamash | a three-year quest hiatus |
| 10:15.46 | Jamash | I think it's sleepy time |
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| 10:35.33 | ZorbaTHut | ugh someone just emailed me his username and password so I could make his Questhelper work |
| 10:35.41 | ZorbaTHut | think about everything which is wrong with that idea |
| 10:35.42 | Aqua | hahahahaah |
| 10:36.43 | Cairenn | oy |
| 10:37.36 | nevcairiel | You should mail him back and ask for remote desktop access :P |
| 10:38.08 | Aqua | i'd email him back directions on booting to a floppy and doing format c: /s /q |
| 10:38.16 | Aqua | or well format c: /s |
| 10:40.27 | Fisker- | looks at nevcairiel |
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| 11:17.32 | Wobin | hm, www.pugchecker.com |
| 11:18.42 | Wobin | It's odd |
| 11:18.50 | Wobin | it's not showing me as having done DTK |
| 11:18.53 | Wobin | but I have... |
| 11:18.57 | Wobin | so it's a bit ... wrong |
| 11:20.07 | Legorol | Wobin: what's surprising is, how does it know the number of times you killed a boss? |
| 11:20.17 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:20.18 | Legorol | I can see how it'd pull a yes/no answer using achievements, but what about counts? |
| 11:20.32 | Wobin | oh |
| 11:20.36 | Wobin | it's in your statistics |
| 11:20.56 | Wobin | and true enough, I haven't got any 'kills' for Tharon'ja |
| 11:21.03 | Wobin | even though I have both achievements |
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| 11:28.55 | nevcairiel | Who would've thought, i never did non-heroic CoT:Stratholme |
| 11:29.25 | cncfanatics | I did, I'm wondering when :p |
| 11:29.35 | nevcairiel | i jumped into heroic directly |
| 11:29.36 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 11:29.43 | cncfanatics | same here |
| 11:29.58 | cncfanatics | i'm wondering where my loken,oculus & CoT kills are from |
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| 11:51.41 | Wobin | ah, I must have been dead when they killed the boss |
| 11:51.46 | Wobin | although I don't remember dying =P |
| 11:59.41 | TopTop18 | is there a way to write the following XML code shorter/easier, especially the FontString part? http://pastey.net/111622 |
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| 12:01.36 | TopTop18 | Soemoen who knows that? |
| 12:01.42 | TopTop18 | *someone |
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| 12:02.48 | TopTop18 | Legorol? |
| 12:03.29 | TopTop18 | Do you know hwo to do that? |
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| 12:11.53 | TopTop18 | Rincewind, you know if there is a way to write the following XML code shorter/easier, especially the FontString part? http://pastey.net/111622 |
| 12:12.11 | TopTop18 | Just asking anyone who logs on XD till i get answers :D |
| 12:12.41 | Rincewind` | erm well i'll have a look but not sure i'll be able to help. |
| 12:14.10 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 12:14.25 | TopTop18 | It's better then nothing :D |
| 12:14.58 | Rincewind` | I dont think your going to be able to make that any shorter, that kinda the same structured xml as I have seen with other addons. |
| 12:15.41 | TopTop18 | Okay so there's no way to make that fontstirng part shorter? Cause it's pretty huge for such less text... |
| 12:18.12 | Rincewind` | no sadly not, I looked at the addon called beql, its a quest frame/log/tracker replacement and they have done it the same way you have. |
| 12:18.33 | Rincewind` | so i'd stick with the I dont think your going to be able to. |
| 12:19.25 | TopTop18 | Okay thanks! |
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| 12:19.41 | TopTop18 | Gonna add the good text nwo then and then I'm gonna bend me over fill in boxes |
| 12:19.57 | TopTop18 | eey Matt! |
| 12:20.01 | MattBnr | hey lol |
| 12:20.03 | TopTop18 | Found your way to here? :D |
| 12:20.13 | TopTop18 | It's pretty quiet here now |
| 12:20.14 | MattBnr | yeah |
| 12:20.19 | TopTop18 | Will get better later on |
| 12:20.26 | MattBnr | yeha i figured. |
| 12:20.40 | TopTop18 | I'm gfoing pretty well with my addon :D |
| 12:20.48 | MattBnr | i havent figured out how exactly what im gonan do but i figure ill copy a current searcher and jsut change what nees to be changed |
| 12:20.53 | MattBnr | what are you making again? |
| 12:21.02 | TopTop18 | Stat calculator :D |
| 12:21.13 | MattBnr | what kind of stats exactly |
| 12:21.28 | TopTop18 | Not actually began to make that yet, I have the frame and know how to make the text in it |
| 12:21.40 | MattBnr | ahh ok |
| 12:22.01 | TopTop18 | Stamina/spellpower/intellect->hit%, crit chance and such things |
| 12:22.24 | TopTop18 | And maybe even a compare thingy |
| 12:22.40 | TopTop18 | And maybe maybe something with itemlinks to compare |
| 12:22.44 | Rincewind` | have you looked at pawn TopTop18 ? it does what you just said. |
| 12:22.52 | Rincewind` | its on curse |
| 12:22.57 | TopTop18 | will look it up |
| 12:23.05 | MattBnr | paWN IS AWESOME |
| 12:23.07 | MattBnr | woops |
| 12:23.12 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 12:23.26 | Rincewind` | that sort of pawn makes you go blind MattBnr |
| 12:23.35 | MattBnr | lol |
| 12:23.38 | TopTop18 | well I prefer making something myself, it's about learning the code and less about the actual functionaluity XD |
| 12:23.49 | Rincewind` | yeah true |
| 12:25.22 | MattBnr | well TopTop18 youll have to teach me how to code when you learn ok? |
| 12:25.57 | TopTop18 | Think that thingy is more of a comparison and mine is more a calculator |
| 12:26.20 | TopTop18 | Matt, downlaod the Blizzard tutorial and take a look at WoWwiki first |
| 12:26.26 | MattBnr | pawn assignes a set value to a item based on weights you give each stat |
| 12:26.35 | MattBnr | blizzard tutorial? |
| 12:26.47 | TopTop18 | Meh try if I can find a link |
| 12:27.30 | MattBnr | i did the little hello world tutorial at wowwiki but i didnt really learn much from that |
| 12:27.53 | Rincewind` | MattBnr: I thought you was like already an addon author ? |
| 12:28.02 | MattBnr | i actually learned more from taking a current searcher/addon and modifying it to how i wanted it and asking questiona logn the way. |
| 12:28.06 | MattBnr | no |
| 12:28.15 | Rincewind` | ah no that brykrs I was speaking to about that. |
| 12:28.17 | MattBnr | im a lowly lowly qa tester |
| 12:28.24 | TopTop18 | Hello wrold is copied form the blizzard tut, but the second part of the blizzard tut is more usfull |
| 12:28.50 | Rincewind` | i went through the blizzard tutorial and learnt very little from it, it was too basic. |
| 12:29.32 | MattBnr | i think im jsut gonna go head first and start cfhanging things till it works how i want it too |
| 12:30.03 | MattBnr | first i need to gather all the info i need on the bandages and prices for each kind and put it into a excel spreadsheet so i ahve it readily avaivble |
| 12:30.24 | TopTop18 | Matt, I recommend the wiki for lookup thingy's though |
| 12:30.49 | MattBnr | ok |
| 12:30.52 | MattBnr | ill check it out |
| 12:30.53 | Rincewind` | dan gilbert wrote a book about wow addon programming, the guy who wrote atlas, and his book is quite a good read in a geeky way. |
| 12:31.00 | TopTop18 | Rincewind, I learnt from the blizzard tutorial the basic outlines of addons adn code |
| 12:31.16 | TopTop18 | ~wowprogramming |
| 12:31.16 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 12:31.22 | TopTop18 | ^that book |
| 12:31.31 | TopTop18 | Gonna buy it when I has the money again :D |
| 12:31.32 | Rincewind` | yes I learnt that too but it was too basic, it didn't go into more detail |
| 12:31.37 | Rincewind` | I have that book |
| 12:31.43 | TopTop18 | Cool |
| 12:31.50 | Rincewind` | and its a good book |
| 12:32.24 | MattBnr | i think mentalpower helped write some of that too |
| 12:32.27 | cbreak | books are nice, but nothing beats writing your own addon |
| 12:32.28 | Rincewind` | it sort of has what wowwiki has in it, with a whole lot extra stuff. |
| 12:32.48 | cbreak | and of course, a good api doc like wowwiki tries to be |
| 12:32.50 | Rincewind` | really ? thats cool |
| 12:33.32 | TopTop18 | Cbreak, That's what I'm trying to do, but this chatroom helps a LOT! |
| 12:34.19 | TopTop18 | Well I gotta do someother things, I'll be back in 2 hours or so |
| 12:35.09 | TopTop18 | MattBnr, this is my current XML code, it shows a frame with text in it, http://pastey.net/111622/ |
| 12:35.33 | MattBnr | nice lotta code |
| 12:35.48 | TopTop18 | You probably learn the most of trying to place the frame where youw nat it to be :D |
| 12:36.06 | TopTop18 | Matt, all the fontstring part is just 3 text sentences XD |
| 12:39.01 | Wraithan | Anyone who is handy with MBST triggers here? |
| 12:39.21 | TopTop18 | Noone who is active at the moment XD |
| 12:39.46 | TopTop18 | Only a few beginners actiuve at the moment |
| 12:43.01 | Wraithan | < Not really a begginner, just not familiar with MSBT's interface |
| 12:45.25 | TopTop18 | Well we are not famialioar with anything XD |
| 12:45.56 | Wraithan | Well MattBnr there is pretty much an expert on Auctioneer |
| 12:46.11 | TopTop18 | Not with coding :D |
| 12:46.13 | MattBnr | mmm i wouldnt sy that |
| 12:46.20 | MattBnr | i know how to use it |
| 12:46.48 | TopTop18 | And how much gold do you have then? |
| 12:47.17 | MattBnr | me? |
| 12:47.30 | MattBnr | on my 1 server over 30k and on my new server about 4k |
| 12:47.37 | TopTop18 | oO |
| 12:47.50 | TopTop18 | need to learn hwo to use auctioneer then to :D |
| 12:48.01 | Wraithan | I only have 14k =/ bought my traveler's mount |
| 12:48.26 | TopTop18 | I have 2.5K without epic flying or nay toher expensive thingy's |
| 12:48.31 | MattBnr | here is a tip * get a enchanter and use the disenchanter searcher |
| 12:48.48 | Wraithan | and I will be spending 5k the day 3.1 comes out for dual specs |
| 12:49.02 | TopTop18 | It's just that I'm avoiding the AH cause I ALWAYS lose my auctions... |
| 12:49.52 | MattBnr | what are you dealing in? |
| 12:50.04 | MattBnr | lose as in they dont sell or you dont win them |
| 12:50.11 | TopTop18 | Well I tried some green armor thingy's and my LW stuff |
| 12:50.29 | TopTop18 | I sold about 1/5 times... While undercutting competition... |
| 12:50.51 | Wraithan | Most crafted items blow for making money |
| 12:52.52 | MattBnr | im telling you if you havent yet get a enchanter to about lvl 350 at least and disenchant stuff you will make money liek nuts |
| 12:53.31 | MattBnr | or do like i am now and jsut buy the mats on the ah and resale them |
| 12:53.46 | Wraithan | That is a dangerous game to play though |
| 12:53.50 | Wraithan | Takes a lot of attention |
| 12:53.57 | MattBnr | enchant mats? no it dont |
| 12:54.01 | MattBnr | its a no risk situation |
| 12:54.16 | MattBnr | no deposit, high demand |
| 12:54.23 | Wraithan | Only for the high end stuff |
| 12:54.27 | Aqua | ok i'm so tired i can't think this correctly...... <Anchor point="TOPLEFT" relativeTo="$parentButton1" relativePoint="TOPRIGHT |
| 12:54.33 | Aqua | is that right? |
| 12:54.55 | Wraithan | I know on my server there are some enchanting mats that are tanking right now, only thing that isn't are the WotLK mats |
| 12:54.57 | Aqua | ok i'm so tired i can't think this correctly...... <Anchor point="TOPLEFT" relativeTo="$parentButton1" relativePoint="TOPRIGHT"> or that |
| 12:58.54 | TopTop18 | seems to be correct... |
| 12:59.14 | MattBnr | ok i cant figure out where the vendor searcher calls informant for the prices |
| 12:59.32 | Wraithan | You having problems with it? |
| 13:00.37 | Aqua | i just been up for 36 hours |
| 13:00.39 | MattBnr | well i was gonna use informant to get the prices for the bandages so i can complare the bandage price to the cloth price to see if i can buy the cloth and turn it into bandages and sell to the vendor for profit |
| 13:00.39 | Aqua | didn't seem right |
| 13:00.40 | Aqua | thanks |
| 13:01.16 | TopTop18 | Yay I even helped someone with my just new to programming skills :D |
| 13:01.45 | Wraithan | MattBnr: wouldn't it be easier to make a snatch setup? |
| 13:02.10 | MattBnr | well probably but i figure this could be a easy module to make so i can learn a bit about programming |
| 13:02.18 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 13:02.26 | MattBnr | yes same as TopTop18 hee |
| 13:02.36 | TopTop18 | can you paste the code you're looking at into pastey.net |
| 13:02.38 | Wraithan | Ah, well right now you are looking at for the get item price function right? |
| 13:03.00 | TopTop18 | So i can have a look XD, my auctioneer is outdated :D |
| 13:03.16 | Wraithan | takes like 2 mins to update your auctioneer *shrug* |
| 13:03.50 | Wraithan | MattBnr: Are you looking for the vendor price or the current lowest buyout or ? |
| 13:03.54 | MattBnr | well i found a getasellvalue in the vendor searcher just now |
| 13:04.13 | TopTop18 | Wraithan, lost my dev status so can;t update to newest dev version :D |
| 13:04.13 | MattBnr | i want the vendor price of the bandages to compare to the cloth prices in the ah |
| 13:04.16 | MattBnr | top yes you can |
| 13:04.25 | MattBnr | download it and install manually |
| 13:04.37 | TopTop18 | Can you downlaod the dev version? |
| 13:04.42 | MattBnr | http://zip.norganna.org/ |
| 13:04.51 | Wraithan | MattBnr: ok but what function are you looking for RIGHT now |
| 13:05.12 | MattBnr | umm not sure this is my very first thought on this |
| 13:05.23 | MattBnr | i want the vendor price of the bandages i guess for starters |
| 13:05.33 | MattBnr | so i ahve something to compare against when i do my searches |
| 13:05.40 | MattBnr | so first is the vendor prices yes |
| 13:06.38 | Wraithan | http://www.wowwiki.com/GetSellValue |
| 13:07.07 | Wraithan | Er, one second |
| 13:10.00 | Wraithan | GetSellValue(item[Const.ITEMID]) |
| 13:10.03 | Wraithan | line 91 |
| 13:10.10 | Wraithan | of SearcherVendor.Lua |
| 13:10.21 | MattBnr | ok yeah that is where i was looking |
| 13:10.51 | Wraithan | Search gets provided with a table they call item |
| 13:11.20 | Wraithan | item has some things like it's bid price, buyout price, item ID and stack size |
| 13:12.28 | Wraithan | You can get the item's value from other modules, which module were you planning on using? |
| 13:13.19 | MattBnr | the items value you mean the bandage or the cloth the bandage is gonna get called form informant |
| 13:13.26 | MattBnr | cloth im gonna use appriaser i think |
| 13:14.00 | MattBnr | informant is where all the vendor info is stored for auctioneer |
| 13:14.13 | Wraithan | So you will want to get appraiser's module and call it's GetPrice() function |
| 13:15.39 | MattBnr | hmm ill have to look this over lol i might decide on a snatch list after all |
| 13:15.56 | Wraithan | I think I was the one that had you or someone else add "A statistic module's GetPrice() function can be accessed by other addons via AucAdvanced.GetModule("moduletype", "modulename").GetPrice(itemlink). ie-AucAdvanced.GetModule("Stat", "Simple").GetPrice(itemlink) for the Simple stat." to the documention |
| 13:16.01 | Wraithan | http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/5.0/Modules_API |
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| 13:16.45 | Wraithan | I've ripped into how all that part of auctioneer works, the modules and stuff that is |
| 13:17.13 | Aqua | auctionner is too annoying |
| 13:17.26 | Wraithan | Though further disucusion should probably be in #norganna since they know more than me, I am just a hacker on their code, and they are the developers |
| 13:17.31 | TopTop18 | Then the module would be informant or am I totally wrong now? |
| 13:17.43 | Wraithan | No, he doesn't need to access informant |
| 13:17.46 | MattBnr | yeah im in close with them |
| 13:17.51 | Wraithan | because he has the GetSellValue function |
| 13:17.56 | Wraithan | he needs to access appraiser |
| 13:18.02 | TopTop18 | ah okay |
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| 13:18.32 | MattBnr | well i guess mainly what i want to do in short is modify the vendor searcher to only look at cloth items and compare them against the price of bandages |
| 13:19.13 | TopTop18 | and display it somewhere probably":D |
| 13:19.14 | MattBnr | so cloth>bandages>vendor i guess is the progress |
| 13:19.34 | MattBnr | yeah in searchui it will be a searcher if i ever figure out what exctly what i want to do |
| 13:20.36 | Wraithan | Converter wouldn't be a bad place to look either |
| 13:20.44 | TopTop18 | So you wnat to compare (number of locth required to make a bandage)*(Price of one cloth) to single bandage price |
| 13:21.15 | MattBnr | yeah in simple terms yes |
| 13:21.34 | TopTop18 | I know to less of coding to help you atm XD |
| 13:21.56 | MattBnr | i know too less to figure out what i want |
| 13:22.00 | MattBnr | ill think about it more |
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| 13:24.59 | Wraithan | MattBnr: ask away if you have more questions, best bet at this point would be to just start coding and see where you get stuck |
| 13:25.17 | Wraithan | MattBnr: I will be semi afk 2boxing some group quests for a short while, but I will be back soon |
| 13:25.20 | MattBnr | im gonn atake another look at it |
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| 13:26.31 | TopTop18 | Matt, first set up a TOC file, that's the easiest part, but has to be done to :D The go on to XML and lua what will probably be the hard part where you will be learning thigs |
| 13:26.47 | TopTop18 | And need to get some help with |
| 13:27.09 | Wraithan | There is very little to no xml for Auc modules |
| 13:27.41 | TopTop18 | Isn;t it better to use some XML for the first time? |
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| 13:28.08 | TopTop18 | It's easier then diving into all the hard lua stuff |
| 13:28.16 | Wraithan | Who told you that? |
| 13:28.26 | TopTop18 | It's just what I think :D |
| 13:28.51 | Wraithan | Learning things the antiqueted way does not mean you are learning from the beginning |
| 13:29.25 | TopTop18 | No but I think ti will probably amke things easier? |
| 13:29.29 | Wraithan | Plus, in this instance, there is no xml to be written as he won't be providing the UI for it, all it needs to do is provide a proper data output |
| 13:29.52 | TopTop18 | Ah okay :D |
| 13:30.24 | Wraithan | It is doubtful it will make things easier, and in the long run, there is a reason most UIs are written mainly in Lua now. |
| 13:31.15 | Legorol | Wraithan: in many cases that reason is because the author feels like it, or follows a trend/fashion without understanding why |
| 13:31.36 | Legorol | XML is good, works fine, and has just as much validity as using Lua for defining your UI. In fact it can be better sometimes. |
| 13:32.00 | Legorol | It's just that many authors, for some reason, dislike the structure of the XML files and shy away from it |
| 13:33.10 | Legorol | TopTop18: the code you pastey-d two hours ago is about as concise you can write the FontString parts |
| 13:33.25 | Legorol | Don't worry about it seeming being repetitive, it has nice structure to it |
| 13:35.22 | MattBnr | how do you open a private room with a person? |
| 13:35.42 | Legorol | on IRC? |
| 13:36.02 | Legorol | you can either join a channel with a random name, such as: /join MattBnrCoolChannel |
| 13:36.19 | MattBnr | oh ok |
| 13:36.31 | Legorol | or depending on your client, you can open a private window for exchanging messages |
| 13:36.53 | Legorol | try /msg <yourpartner> Hi |
| 13:37.10 | Legorol | depending on your client, that message will show in the current channel window, or pop open a window |
| 13:37.14 | MattBnr | well that works ill try the room thing |
| 13:37.21 | MattBnr | current chat |
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| 13:38.01 | Legorol | then there is also DCC Chat, but that's not worth the trouble |
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| 13:49.30 | TopTop18 | Legorol, thanks! |
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| 13:50.21 | TopTop18 | legorol, after I palced the right text can I make a fill in box and use the value fille din in math thingy's? |
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| 13:58.31 | Legorol | TopTop18: you mean you want to have something where a user can enter text? |
| 13:59.11 | Legorol | You need an EditBox for that. EditBox is a type of frame, so you can add it under your main frame by putting it inside a <Frames></Frames> |
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| 14:05.17 | TopTop18 | Under the frame? Can you also put it In the frame after the text? |
| 14:07.09 | foxlit | ACHIEVEMENT_TOOLTIP_COMPLETE = "ĂÂĂŸĂÂĂÂÞöÔĂÂœĂžĂ” ĂÂżĂŸĂ»ĂÂĂÂĂ”ĂÂœĂŸ |3-4(%s) %d/%d/20%02d"; |
| 14:07.22 | foxlit | Wonder what the |3-4 is doing there |
| 14:08.07 | nevcairiel | russians are weird, their language requires alot of extra cheats |
| 14:10.54 | foxlit | Oh, I'm familiar with the language. I just wonder how they implemented it |
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| 14:15.58 | Fisker- | dicks around |
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| 14:24.02 | TopTop18 | Legorol: Under the frame? Can you also put it In the frame after the text? |
| 14:27.50 | Cide- | hi |
| 14:28.22 | Cide- | hihihihi |
| 14:28.26 | Kalroth | tjena Cide |
| 14:28.29 | nevcairiel | hi Cide- |
| 14:29.33 | Cide- | go away |
| 14:29.36 | Cide- | I hate you all |
| 14:36.43 | TopTop18 | what the heck? |
| 14:39.41 | Kalroth | It's one of these days |
| 14:43.10 | TopTop18 | What days? |
| 14:43.43 | Kalroth | These days |
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| 15:14.29 | Lothaer | sup guys |
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| 15:19.17 | Lothaer | its quiet... a little... too quiet |
| 15:21.57 | TopTop18 | Yep it sure is :D |
| 15:22.14 | TopTop18 | Trying to program keeps me busy :D |
| 15:23.10 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:23.26 | Lothaer | hey ckk u here mate? |
| 15:25.46 | TopTop18 | Meh I'm getting a strange error, adding a <fontheight val="X"> makes my whole frame disappear and log display, Couldn't parse blabla, without fontheight everything works fine. Could someone help me with that? |
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| 15:26.58 | Kaso | TopTop18, you should paste a snippit of your code so people can see the context of how you've used it : http://pastey.net |
| 15:27.09 | TopTop18 | w8 a sec |
| 15:30.29 | TopTop18 | Doesn;t work: http://pastey.net/111632 Works: http://pastey.net/111633 |
| 15:30.40 | TopTop18 | The only differenc eis the fontheight part |
| 15:31.15 | Kaso | well for one you havent closed the fontheight tag |
| 15:31.22 | TopTop18 | Oops XD |
| 15:32.18 | TopTop18 | Yay works now :D |
| 15:32.29 | TopTop18 | <FontHeight val="12"/> |
| 15:32.35 | TopTop18 | Only that last stupid slash... |
| 15:32.40 | TopTop18 | Thanks Kaso! |
| 15:33.13 | Kaso | i actually shouldve been able to guess that from the question alone, but hey ;p |
| 15:33.28 | Kaso | its always best practice to give lots of info when asking questions :) |
| 15:33.35 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 15:34.01 | TopTop18 | Umm next error, filling in another val doesn;t make any difference... |
| 15:35.22 | TopTop18 | Any idea how to solve that? As i wnat to make the title larger then the other text |
| 15:36.37 | Kaso | <FontHeight><AbsValue val="12"/></FontHeight> |
| 15:37.19 | Lothaer | lol its always something little that you just over look huh rofl ie ; or end |
| 15:37.21 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 15:37.28 | TopTop18 | Kaso, <FontHeight val="12"/> and <FontHeight val="50"/> doesn;t make any difference... |
| 15:38.11 | TopTop18 | Lothaer, Yep and mostly you can;t figure out what ahs gone wrong by yourself :D |
| 15:38.50 | TopTop18 | Also adding outline="THICK" justifyH="CENTER" top the fontstring doesn;t make any differnce either |
| 15:38.54 | Kaso | Its been so long since ive done xml uis i cant recall exactly but the FrameXMl code uses <AbsValue val=|12"> within a fontheight tag |
| 15:39.01 | Lothaer | yeah i youd be surprised how much help i needed with a simple mod rofl |
| 15:39.10 | Lothaer | you know the mod Come Here? |
| 15:39.26 | TopTop18 | It seems like the font is overriding the values I give... |
| 15:39.57 | TopTop18 | Nope don't know it, Lothaer, but could you help with my problem? |
| 15:40.47 | TopTop18 | kaso, Should also woprk with adding it behind, cause <EdgeSize val="16"/> that things works fine |
| 15:41.00 | Lothaer | probably not as im not that good at coding at all. |
| 15:41.05 | TopTop18 | XD |
| 15:41.45 | TopTop18 | Then only one option remains, Legorol, could you ahve a look at the above thingy's and give some advise :D |
| 15:41.57 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9979-ComeHere.html i got help from, Tristanian, Moongaze and various other Master Coders for help |
| 15:42.31 | TopTop18 | Don;t knwo them XD |
| 15:43.20 | Lothaer | Tristanin = Lead Coder of Titan Panel and Moongaze is the master mind behind LunarSphere and Bejeweled |
| 15:43.52 | Lothaer | Tristanian has also done ALOT of other mods as has Moongaze :D |
| 15:44.04 | TopTop18 | Have heard of titanpanel |
| 15:44.10 | TopTop18 | Dunno the rest XD |
| 15:44.27 | Lothaer | i think almost ALL mod users either know Titan or have used it :D |
| 15:44.44 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12079-LunarSphere.html |
| 15:44.55 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8092-TitanPanel.html |
| 15:45.10 | Lothaer | woops |
| 15:45.23 | Lothaer | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11019-Bejeweled.html |
| 15:45.25 | Lothaer | thats better lol |
| 15:45.37 | TopTop18 | will take a look :D |
| 15:45.57 | TopTop18 | ComeHere seems kinda simple, but every beginning is hard :D |
| 15:48.12 | Lothaer | tbh Come Here is very simple but i need alot of help |
| 15:48.30 | Lothaer | if been fiddling with mods for a few years now but i still know very little sigh |
| 15:48.59 | TopTop18 | Lol |
| 15:49.29 | TopTop18 | Well I will learn a lot aboput coding in 2-3 years when i start my informatics study |
| 15:49.39 | TopTop18 | And lunarsphere seems awesome! |
| 15:49.41 | Lothaer | very nice |
| 15:49.44 | Lothaer | its is |
| 15:49.54 | Lothaer | ive been using it since the first beta test |
| 15:50.06 | Lothaer | i think i actually made the 1st error post in the beta :D |
| 15:50.08 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:50.14 | TopTop18 | lol |
| 15:50.20 | Lothaer | ./brag |
| 15:52.21 | Lothaer | the first mods i used were in the cosmos package /shudder lol |
| 15:52.25 | Lothaer | that was a LONG time ago |
| 15:52.58 | TopTop18 | I used cosmos to :D |
| 15:53.40 | Lothaer | from there i went to Insomniax |
| 15:53.57 | Lothaer | after that i did my own compilations :D |
| 15:54.30 | TopTop18 | Don;t use very much addon satm, cause of my bad pc :D |
| 15:55.56 | Lothaer | heres my UI http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/WoWScrnShot_031909_043021.jpg |
| 15:56.03 | VonhintenHOME` | lol http://mbilf.com/pics/bejeweledinwow-20081126-204940.jpg |
| 15:56.53 | Lothaer | ROFLMAO |
| 15:57.42 | TopTop18 | Lothaer, Nice ui! Although a bit squary adn where do your bags show up? |
| 15:58.09 | Lothaer | i use bagnon i just press B and the appear :D |
| 15:58.18 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 15:58.21 | Lothaer | im using a 17" CRT atm |
| 15:58.33 | Lothaer | im getting a 22" LCD in a few weeks |
| 15:58.38 | TopTop18 | I'm using 21" Flatscreen :D |
| 15:58.43 | TopTop18 | Cool |
| 15:58.54 | Lothaer | im making a UI for a friend... wanna see? |
| 15:59.01 | TopTop18 | Although my current computer can; handle wow higher then 600*800 or so |
| 15:59.07 | TopTop18 | Sure |
| 15:59.20 | Lothaer | ok just be prepared to gouge your eyes out |
| 15:59.21 | Lothaer | http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/WoWScrnShot_031409_040959.jpg |
| 16:00.19 | TopTop18 | ummm LOL!!! |
| 16:00.32 | Lothaer | ive also got a skin for WIM in the same theme |
| 16:00.52 | Lothaer | ive released it as a sepparate "addon" |
| 16:01.20 | TopTop18 | Okay |
| 16:01.31 | TopTop18 | Meh still noone to help me out... |
| 16:01.53 | TopTop18 | Gonna dive into Edit box then :D |
| 16:02.44 | Lothaer | what lua editing program do u use? |
| 16:03.43 | TopTop18 | Notepad++ or SciTE |
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| 16:04.26 | Lothaer | i use notpad++ too :D |
| 16:08.54 | TopTop18 | :D |
| 16:10.23 | Lothaer | so whats your mod gonna do when its ready? |
| 16:11.57 | TopTop18 | Stat calculating thingy's :D |
| 16:12.00 | TopTop18 | w8 a sec |
| 16:12.35 | TopTop18 | Stamina/spellpower/intellect->hit%, crit chance and such things |
| 16:12.35 | TopTop18 | And maybe even a compare thingy |
| 16:12.35 | TopTop18 | And maybe maybe something with itemlinks to compare |
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| 16:14.57 | airtonix | will it sell my grey items? |
| 16:15.06 | airtonix | it absolutely must do that |
| 16:15.16 | TopTop18 | Lol |
| 16:15.20 | airtonix | ohohoh |
| 16:15.22 | TopTop18 | Not supposed to do XD |
| 16:15.40 | airtonix | and it must at random times throughout a raid quote out monty python |
| 16:15.56 | airtonix | no mod is EVER complete without that |
| 16:16.05 | TopTop18 | Lol |
| 16:16.11 | TopTop18 | Will try that :D |
| 16:16.14 | VonhintenHOME` | So, when a character takes something out of the guild vault, a log entry is made.. and if the character is deleted, that log entry references "Unknown"... |
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| 16:16.41 | airtonix | hail to consistency |
| 16:16.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Seriously, referential integrity on security audit logs... is blizz smoking the herb? |
| 16:16.51 | TopTop18 | Lol my code is bugged again :D |
| 16:16.52 | airtonix | all the time |
| 16:17.45 | mikma | lolcode |
| 16:18.04 | ScytheBlade1 | VonhintenHOME`: that data stays around, just not in any place that the players can see it. It may read unknown, but the proper account name is still attached. |
| 16:19.46 | Lothaer | just modify http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10003-ChuckNorrisFacts.html for the Monty Python Quotes :D |
| 16:20.58 | airtonix | Lothaer, there is one called chatbot that you can modify too |
| 16:21.18 | Lothaer | lol |
| 16:21.29 | Lothaer | no compilation is complete with out CNF :D |
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| 16:22.12 | airtonix | CNF: amount of plastic facial surgeries in last twelve months : 38 |
| 16:22.39 | Lothaer | lol |
| 16:22.49 | airtonix | have you even seen a picture of him recently? |
| 16:23.00 | ckknight | Lothaer: I have never left you, child |
| 16:23.02 | airtonix | looks like c3po |
| 16:25.34 | Lothaer | ROFLMAO ckk lol |
| 16:26.05 | Lothaer | is it true that you've stopped development of Fubar? |
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| 16:31.25 | Shadowed | Anyone played with LibKeyBound-1.0 before? |
| 16:31.52 | ckknight | Lothaer: I'm just real busy with other stuff |
| 16:32.01 | ckknight | Lothaer: I won't feel bad if you switch to another addon |
| 16:33.41 | Lothaer | ckk: im just asking cause i've seen some posts about Fubar features and i just like to keep the general pop informed |
| 16:34.19 | Lothaer | ckk: dont get angry but i've used Titan for along time, tried Fubar once and didnt like it, it was a personal preference :D |
| 16:35.03 | nevcairiel | fubar is dead, long live LDB |
| 16:35.43 | Lothaer | nev: then use Titan :D |
| 16:35.51 | nevcairiel | I use fortress |
| 16:36.01 | Lothaer | cool :D |
| 16:36.15 | VonhintenHOME` | the fortress author come around here ever? |
| 16:36.24 | Lothaer | i remember the old Titan v Fubar wars LMAO |
| 16:36.48 | jnwhiteh | titan is still full of.. stuff |
| 16:36.49 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 16:36.50 | Lothaer | back before there was LDB, now theres Info Pannels ALL over the palce |
| 16:37.02 | jnwhiteh | precisely why i made ninjapanel |
| 16:37.02 | Lothaer | what you mean full of stuff? |
| 16:37.08 | jnwhiteh | it just does.. way too much |
| 16:37.13 | Lothaer | like? |
| 16:37.23 | jnwhiteh | i'm not criticising |
| 16:37.26 | jnwhiteh | its good at what it does |
| 16:37.27 | Lothaer | i knopw |
| 16:37.27 | jnwhiteh | as does fubar |
| 16:37.29 | jnwhiteh | but they do too much |
| 16:37.33 | jnwhiteh | for me :P |
| 16:38.01 | Lothaer | i just wanna know what you think is too much |
| 16:38.13 | nevcairiel | did you ever get aroudn to the options for ninjapanel yet? |
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| 16:38.22 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: yes, they've been there for a while |
| 16:38.24 | nevcairiel | i was too lazy to manually hide the plugins i dont want :( |
| 16:38.26 | jnwhiteh | on svn at least |
| 16:38.29 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 16:38.31 | jnwhiteh | oh you can do that vai gui |
| 16:38.33 | jnwhiteh | via |
| 16:38.33 | nevcairiel | i should try it again, then! |
| 16:39.14 | VonhintenHOME` | I got fortress to display exactly like my fubar did, with a couple small tweaks |
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| 16:39.42 | jnwhiteh | hrm, 195 files in Titan |
| 16:40.02 | Fisker- | holy shit jnwhiteh |
| 16:40.25 | mikma | 195! |
| 16:40.27 | nevcairiel | 195 o.O |
| 16:40.32 | mikma | let's compare it to NinjaPanel! |
| 16:40.45 | mikma | 9 |
| 16:41.06 | jnwhiteh | 23,000 lines of code |
| 16:41.09 | jnwhiteh | admittedly, most of that is libs |
| 16:41.42 | jnwhiteh | that was just .lua files, btw |
| 16:42.08 | jnwhiteh | erro |
| 16:42.09 | jnwhiteh | 53 |
| 16:42.12 | jnwhiteh | are just lua |
| 16:43.17 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: that's JUST the titan addon, not any plugins.. btu again my needs are very specific |
| 16:43.21 | jnwhiteh | most of my LDB feeds are not addons |
| 16:43.28 | jnwhiteh | they're just mini-scripts in Hack or WowLua |
| 16:43.33 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:44.18 | Lothaer | well to each their own i guess :D |
| 16:45.30 | Lothaer | BUt you have to admin that since the Titan Team (of which im appart :D) took over Titan its ALOT better then the "good ol' days" |
| 16:45.30 | jnwhiteh | of course |
| 16:45.30 | jnwhiteh | i'm not knocking it at all |
| 16:45.30 | Lothaer | ^^ |
| 16:45.30 | Lothaer | i know |
| 16:45.30 | jnwhiteh | but some authors just like big.. addons |
| 16:45.30 | jnwhiteh | I dont =) |
| 16:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | <req> titan is terrible </req> |
| 16:45.30 | Lothaer | lol i like big shiny things |
| 16:45.57 | Lothaer | i got a few comments like that for other mods lol |
| 16:45.59 | airtonix | that hack mod is great, i dont think i'm using it to its full potential yet |
| 16:46.12 | Lothaer | please dont take these seriously only in good fun :D |
| 16:46.14 | airtonix | would be great to get line numbering and block indentation included |
| 16:46.20 | Lothaer | Fubar will fubar your UI |
| 16:46.26 | Lothaer | ninjapanel will ninja your account |
| 16:46.28 | Lothaer | etc etc etc |
| 16:46.29 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 16:46.39 | nevcairiel | WoWLua and Hack should combine |
| 16:46.40 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 16:46.43 | airtonix | and dockinstation will?....dock your ... |
| 16:47.02 | airtonix | -_- |
| 16:47.12 | Lothaer | mom |
| 16:47.18 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.36 | Lothaer | there should be another Panel name Trapper Keeper |
| 16:47.43 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: not gonna happen |
| 16:47.48 | Lothaer | anyone know where thats from? |
| 16:47.50 | jnwhiteh | i still need an interactive interpreter for wow |
| 16:47.59 | jnwhiteh | and hack doesn't do that |
| 16:48.01 | jnwhiteh | nor should it |
| 16:48.18 | nevcairiel | then give wowlua some of hacks features! |
| 16:48.19 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 16:48.41 | nevcairiel | also, automatic saving |
| 16:48.44 | jnwhiteh | like what and why |
| 16:48.56 | jnwhiteh | dude i've told you before |
| 16:48.58 | jnwhiteh | i'm a coding machine |
| 16:49.00 | jnwhiteh | tell me what you want |
| 16:49.03 | jnwhiteh | and i'll write it |
| 16:49.03 | jnwhiteh | if its not a shitty idea :P |
| 16:49.03 | foxlit | "hack" "wowlua" << boo! |
| 16:49.16 | nevcairiel | Well a list of all saved pages would be nice |
| 16:49.25 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: you ave it on the open menu |
| 16:49.26 | airtonix | so right now i'm using tableInspecter to ...'inspect' tables.but i have to re-inspect it to see the changes to a table ...anything available that updates the view itself : onAttributeChange ? |
| 16:49.29 | jnwhiteh | if you dont have too many :P |
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| 16:49.48 | mikma | [0] = nil --[[ skipped userdata ]], |
| 16:49.48 | foxlit | I think the RunScript mod I use still has #Interface: 1300 in its .toc |
| 16:49.52 | mikma | ["entry"] = nil --[[ skipped recursive table ]], |
| 16:49.59 | Lothaer | hey jnwhiteh do you only code in Ace? |
| 16:50.12 | foxlit | (well, no, it doesn't -- /me shakes fist at 2.0 incompatibility flag) |
| 16:50.25 | nevcairiel | And the need to save every edit drives me nuts, can't you do undo/redo and still automagically save the pages? :) |
| 16:50.28 | jnwhiteh | Lothaer: i dont write anything in ace... so ? |
| 16:50.41 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: it saves on run, doesn't it? |
| 16:50.51 | nevcairiel | does it? |
| 16:50.53 | nevcairiel | tests |
| 16:51.11 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 16:51.33 | jnwhiteh | meh |
| 16:51.34 | jnwhiteh | seriously |
| 16:51.38 | jnwhiteh | i'll be doing that in the next few weeks |
| 16:51.42 | jnwhiteh | start a forum post |
| 16:51.49 | jnwhiteh | and post what how you think things should work |
| 16:51.52 | nevcairiel | on wowprogramming? |
| 16:51.54 | jnwhiteh | and i'll try to get it all done |
| 16:51.55 | jnwhiteh | nah |
| 16:51.56 | jnwhiteh | on wowi |
| 16:51.57 | jnwhiteh | in my forum |
| 16:51.58 | nevcairiel | k |
| 16:53.42 | jnwhiteh | link it here so other people can comment too |
| 16:53.48 | jnwhiteh | same for tomtom |
| 16:54.17 | nevcairiel | tomtom is working perfectly for me |
| 17:00.54 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21713 |
| 17:01.03 | jnwhiteh | thanks |
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| 17:02.56 | nevcairiel | mm i think i'm going for some pizza now |
| 17:06.12 | TopTop18 | Coudl someone help me with editbox thingy and some fontstring problems? |
| 17:06.27 | mikma | nevcairiel: noooo |
| 17:06.36 | nevcairiel | no pizza? |
| 17:06.42 | mikma | kebab! |
| 17:06.48 | nevcairiel | but i have pizza here |
| 17:06.55 | mikma | blah, ok :( |
| 17:07.14 | nevcairiel | and i have no money anymore, would have to stop at the ATM or something |
| 17:07.15 | nevcairiel | lazy |
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| 17:07.57 | Iriel | TopTop18: I suggest you ask your question directly, if you dont get an answer than the answer to the 'could someone help...' will be no. |
| 17:08.36 | TopTop18 | Okay, will take a bit of place to explain things :D |
| 17:08.46 | TopTop18 | Will make a pastey for it :D |
| 17:10.14 | TopTop18 | Ah not needed |
| 17:10.31 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12976-DynamicPerformanceV1.1fanfix1.2.html << teehee, so unfortunate |
| 17:10.47 | foxlit | The long string of #### is just long enough to wrap the useful content off my screen |
| 17:11.26 | Duman | hmm |
| 17:11.51 | TopTop18 | Fontstring problem: <FontHeight val="12"/> and <FontHeight val="50"/> doesn;t make any difference and outline="THICK" justifyH="CENTER" doesn;t do something either. CodeSnippet: http://pastey.net/111635 |
| 17:12.15 | TopTop18 | EditBox Problem: Not getting it to show a editbox in any way... |
| 17:12.56 | TopTop18 | I've even directly copied the example at the wiki, but it doesn;t show anything... |
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| 17:13.34 | foxlit | link the example? |
| 17:15.06 | TopTop18 | My Code + example: http://pastey.net/111636 |
| 17:15.26 | nevcairiel | try <FontHeight><AbsValue val="20" /></FontHeight> |
| 17:15.37 | nevcairiel | or 12 or 50 :P |
| 17:15.46 | TopTop18 | And link to wiki page http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_user_interface#EditBox |
| 17:15.52 | TopTop18 | Trying now :D |
| 17:16.51 | Adys | ~seen Maldivia |
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| 17:16.53 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 17:18.16 | foxlit | nev might be right in that there might be a font issue preventing you from using obscenely large or small fonts |
| 17:18.49 | nevcairiel | (a 50 font in an editbox? oh my) |
| 17:18.51 | TopTop18 | Nevcairiel Nope not working :D |
| 17:19.08 | nevcairiel | I don't do xml either way, so good luck :D |
| 17:19.12 | TopTop18 | well 12 and 16 also make no difference :D |
| 17:20.12 | mikma | http://www.finnkino.fi/files/moviegallery/2729/3d859cddaf.jpg |
| 17:20.13 | mikma | rawrrrrrr |
| 17:20.16 | nevcairiel | does your frame itself show up? |
| 17:20.51 | TopTop18 | http://pastey.net/111637 Whatever i fill in at fontheight it doesn;t make a difference |
| 17:20.59 | TopTop18 | yes the frame and text shows up |
| 17:21.12 | TopTop18 | Only the text doesn;t get larger if I change fontheight |
| 17:21.18 | TopTop18 | Nor does anything else change |
| 17:23.16 | TopTop18 | So could anyone help with that or my editbox problem? |
| 17:23.23 | alestane | I ran into something like this, but I can't remember what the cause was or how I dealt with it. |
| 17:23.42 | TopTop18 | Meh... |
| 17:23.47 | foxlit | Define a font elswhere. |
| 17:23.47 | alestane | Mostly I work with buttons and icons, rather than text. |
| 17:24.13 | TopTop18 | How :D |
| 17:24.14 | foxlit | So instead of doing font="blah" and then trying to customize it, define your own custom font and use font="that" |
| 17:24.27 | TopTop18 | How? |
| 17:24.46 | nevcairiel | Look at Fonts.xml for how =) |
| 17:25.06 | TopTop18 | Okay |
| 17:25.10 | nevcairiel | or FontStyles.xml |
| 17:27.57 | TopTop18 | Where do you palce your font definition? |
| 17:28.11 | nevcairiel | just in the xml |
| 17:28.19 | TopTop18 | No matter where? |
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| 17:28.31 | nevcairiel | well not inside your frame definition |
| 17:28.32 | foxlit | before you use it might be a reasonable idea |
| 17:28.34 | alestane | Probably before you want to use it. |
| 17:28.57 | TopTop18 | So in case of my code between frame and ui? |
| 17:29.16 | foxlit | Immediately after <Ui> should do the trick. |
| 17:29.20 | alestane | Between <Ui ...> and <Frame>, yes. |
| 17:31.59 | TopTop18 | It works! |
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| 17:34.09 | foxlit | I wonder if the problem was in the new(ish -- 2.3?) changes to the font system |
| 17:34.41 | foxlit | [or whatever patch made them separate objects as opposed to properties of the various text containers] |
| 17:34.48 | TopTop18 | Ye it seemed like the font="X" overrided the tthings added |
| 17:38.41 | TopTop18 | the font is really overridng my definitions! if I change color in the font it stays white... |
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| 17:41.41 | TopTop18 | So now this is fixed a lil could someone help with the editbox problem or solve this issue further? |
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| 17:53.16 | alestane | I don't mind but I really don't have the knowledge about text stuff for the most part. |
| 17:54.33 | alestane | But a clear statement of your problem or where you're confused will generally attract more attention in IRC than a request for help will. |
| 17:56.14 | Dagmar | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q="don't+ask+to+ask"&btnG=Search |
| 17:56.27 | foxlit | only 20k? |
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| 17:58.23 | foxlit | I can also suggest an alternate strategy: state something blatantly wrong about the subject you want to know more about, and watch the ensuing firestorm :) |
| 17:58.35 | TT18|AFK | How do I make a EditBox work then? |
| 17:58.48 | TT18|AFK | Foxlit LOL! |
| 17:59.05 | TT18|AFK | Cause whatever I try my editbox won;t appear |
| 17:59.31 | cncfanatics | gonna ask here just in case someone knows, the fans of my laptop stopped working, anyone having similar issues with a 2.6.26 kernel or is it really a hardware failure ? (OS : debian, laptop: hp pavilion dv6000) |
| 17:59.32 | TT18|AFK | Second problem is that if I fill in another color code the color stays white |
| 17:59.57 | TT18|AFK | ^in a font definition |
| 18:00.14 | cncfanatics | Fisker- is smart |
| 18:00.42 | Fisker- | yep cncfanatics |
| 18:00.46 | Fisker- | you got a problem with that? |
| 18:00.54 | Dagmar | cncfanatics: Do the fans run when it's in the BIOS setup menu or the HP splash screen? |
| 18:01.02 | TT18|AFK | If Fisker- is so smart can he solve my rpoblems then :D |
| 18:01.20 | foxlit | Oh, you really don't want Fisker- to solve your problems. |
| 18:01.43 | TT18|AFK | I don;t mind who solves my problems as long as someone solves them :D |
| 18:01.44 | cncfanatics | Dagmar: they don't seem to (at least i can't hear em) |
| 18:02.05 | TT18|AFK | Then it's probably ahrdware failure I think |
| 18:02.18 | Dagmar | If the fans don't work when the kernel isn't in use then it's a hardware issue most likely |
| 18:02.27 | cncfanatics | I also have an USB port that stopped working and my cd drive not reading cd's anymore |
| 18:02.32 | cncfanatics | guessing its all related to this heat crap |
| 18:02.33 | foxlit | Boot something else :) |
| 18:02.36 | Dagmar | Feel free to roll back your kernel to the last one that the fans were working with |
| 18:02.39 | cncfanatics | can't foxlit |
| 18:02.43 | Dagmar | If you can't do that it's your problem. |
| 18:02.47 | foxlit | What, no Windows(tm) restore cd? |
| 18:02.55 | cncfanatics | "cd drive not reading cd's anymore" |
| 18:03.09 | cncfanatics | I can't do shit |
| 18:03.22 | Dagmar | So throw it out and buy a new one |
| 18:03.24 | foxlit | time to getamac? |
| 18:03.29 | TT18|AFK | Sounds bvery very bad |
| 18:03.37 | cncfanatics | this piece of crap is still under guarantee, thank god |
| 18:03.40 | cncfanatics | its only 8 months old |
| 18:03.52 | TT18|AFK | Go get it solved byu a pro then :D |
| 18:04.02 | cncfanatics | I will soonish |
| 18:04.09 | cncfanatics | problem is they'll prolly keep my laptop for a few weeks :/ |
| 18:04.10 | foxlit | The pros will go "what's this, linux?" |
| 18:04.11 | TT18|AFK | ./afk |
| 18:04.18 | TT18|AFK | LOL!!! |
| 18:04.20 | foxlit | "We'll have to nuke it from orbit" |
| 18:04.29 | foxlit | "Come back in a year" |
| 18:04.31 | cncfanatics | rofl, true storr |
| 18:04.39 | cncfanatics | s/storr/story/ |
| 18:04.46 | TT18|AFK | "Hmm are we allowed to use dynamite? Always works :D" |
| 18:05.05 | cncfanatics | hoping they'll just give me a new one tbh, though I doubt it :p |
| 18:05.08 | foxlit | (not that I have any experience with HP support to suggest that that's the course of action they'd chose) |
| 18:05.19 | foxlit | ^o |
| 18:05.52 | cncfanatics | currently backing up my data though |
| 18:05.58 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.02 | cncfanatics | of which 79.5 is illegal |
| 18:07.45 | Wraithan | cncfanatics: They would have no way of knowing that though |
| 18:08.02 | cncfanatics | I rather back it up |
| 18:08.05 | cncfanatics | in case they nuke my hdd |
| 18:08.21 | cncfanatics | which, frankly, wouldn't surprise me at all :p |
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| 18:11.59 | Wraithan | cncfanatics: What ever happened with that actoinbar addon you were working on/ |
| 18:15.22 | cncfanatics | its on hold atm |
| 18:15.37 | cncfanatics | macaroon is doing pretty much everything I wanted to write :p so I'd suggest that ;) |
| 18:17.03 | Dagmar | Yep. Macaroon could *maybe* stand to be given a once-over for optimization, but other than that it's awesome |
| 18:17.42 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics wouldnt even know how to write an action bar addon these days :D |
| 18:20.15 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 18:20.24 | cncfanatics | blizz messed with a lot of stoof :p |
| 18:20.34 | nevcairiel | its teh awesome now, though |
| 18:20.59 | cncfanatics | I might look into it soonishly, need something to do when my laptop goes for repairs :p |
| 18:21.39 | nevcairiel | I need a new laptop |
| 18:21.46 | nevcairiel | i want a macbook, but those are pricy |
| 18:21.55 | cncfanatics | mmm, I'm not into macs |
| 18:22.03 | cncfanatics | I just got myself a random hp laptop with a core 2 in :p |
| 18:22.09 | cncfanatics | serves me well enough except for those fcking fans :( |
| 18:22.09 | Wraithan | I am not into paying 20% more for the same hardware. |
| 18:22.19 | foxlit | (and that fing cd drive?) |
| 18:22.21 | Wraithan | Er, I mean I am not into macs either. |
| 18:23.08 | cncfanatics | and the fing cddrive & usb port, true |
| 18:23.19 | cncfanatics | but I could live without those tbh :p |
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| 18:26.02 | TT18|AFK | Finally foudn what was wrong with my EditBox! |
| 18:26.25 | TT18|AFK | It's nto supposed to be in a frame it's a frame itself! |
| 18:27.50 | cncfanatics | for the record |
| 18:28.04 | cncfanatics | my processor is going at 62 degrees celcius while just having pidgin open :p |
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| 18:28.36 | TopTop18 | I'd say put an a fan ro the airco near your pc :D |
| 18:28.44 | foxlit | go do some while(1) fork(); on it |
| 18:28.52 | Dagmar | So now would be a good time to look into getting one of those powered cooling plates to put under the laptop to push air through it |
| 18:28.53 | nevcairiel | TopTop18: yeah you should put a <Frames> tag around it, to make it a sub-frame |
| 18:29.16 | foxlit | There's no :IsFocused()? |
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| 18:30.24 | nevcairiel | frame = GetCurrentKeyBoardFocus() |
| 18:33.58 | TopTop18 | Nevcairiel, http://pastey.net/111638 works fine and place the editbox on the screen somewehere, but http://pastey.net/111639 doesn;t work, hwo to put the editbox in a frame then? |
| 18:38.00 | nevcairiel | TopTop18: try http://pastey.net/111640 |
| 18:38.12 | nevcairiel | just a <Frames> .. </Frames> around the editbox |
| 18:40.41 | TopTop18 | Trying now |
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| 18:43.11 | TopTop18 | WHOOHOO!!! Thanks Nevcairiel, You're my new Hero! :D |
| 18:43.28 | cncfanatics | ain't the name of your here nevcairiel ? |
| 18:43.36 | cncfanatics | s/here/hero/ |
| 18:43.38 | cncfanatics | fail >.> |
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| 18:45.20 | TopTop18 | One lil problemo though, in my editbox is a strange black square in the middle, the sides are more greyish, hwo does that come? |
| 18:47.32 | mikma | your setpoint is wicked |
| 18:48.07 | TopTop18 | What's that? :D |
| 18:48.52 | mikma | it's something that is needed |
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| 18:52.52 | TopTop18 | Screenie: http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee159/toptop18/WoWScrnShot_040409_204621.jpg How to solve it? Can you sze it? |
| 18:53.09 | TopTop18 | s/sze/size |
| 18:53.18 | TopTop18 | Meh not working :D |
| 18:53.58 | TopTop18 | s/meh/BOOO/ |
| 18:54.31 | TopTop18 | So can you remove/size/make invisible that ugly black aquare in the editbox? |
| 18:54.53 | nevcairiel | somehow, probably |
| 18:54.54 | foxlit | you can do anythng! |
| 18:55.02 | nevcairiel | You could use the InputBoxTemplate though |
| 18:55.03 | foxlit | including spelling "anything" correctly :/ |
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| 18:55.46 | TopTop18 | Nevcairiel, what's it and what does it do? |
| 18:56.38 | nevcairiel | Well its a template for an editbox provided by blizzard |
| 18:57.19 | nevcairiel | your previous paste modified: |
| 18:57.20 | nevcairiel | http://pastey.net/111643 |
| 18:58.02 | nevcairiel | so all the Layers stuff goes, and an inherits tag comes into play |
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| 18:58.47 | TopTop18 | Ooh looks nice as code :D |
| 18:59.49 | jnwhiteh | https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTY0MjE3NTk needs a referral for dropbox |
| 18:59.56 | jnwhiteh | so you get the extra 256MB free |
| 19:01.35 | TopTop18 | ??? what's that??? |
| 19:02.15 | cncfanatics | my gmail account stores for more oO |
| 19:02.18 | Dagmar | A place for more conveniently storing Exhibits A, B, and C in one's upcoming court "difficulties". |
| 19:02.39 | foxlit | cncfanatics: on the other hand, your gmail is probably not publicly accessible. |
| 19:03.12 | TopTop18 | Nevcairiel, the cursor is stuck in the EditBox, so I can;t use chat XD Anyway to make it that the cursor not automatically is placed in there? |
| 19:04.07 | cncfanatics | foxlit: true |
| 19:04.12 | nevcairiel | TopTop18: press escape :p |
| 19:05.05 | TopTop18 | Nevcairiel Not working, it stays in that box XD |
| 19:05.15 | nevcairiel | then your escape is broken! |
| 19:05.37 | foxlit | (that behavior isn't automatic) |
| 19:05.46 | foxlit | (though you might or might not inherit it) |
| 19:05.47 | cncfanatics | ~nevcairiel |
| 19:05.47 | purl | nevcairiel is probably 'awesome' |
| 19:05.49 | TopTop18 | How to fix my escape :D |
| 19:06.11 | nevcairiel | The inherit doesn't cause that |
| 19:06.33 | TopTop18 | Or get the cursor not palce automatic in the box? |
| 19:06.43 | TopTop18 | Or any other way tog et it out :D |
| 19:06.54 | nevcairiel | escape should get it out |
| 19:07.35 | foxlit | In other news: /run CreateFrame("Editbox") is an awesome way to break everything |
| 19:07.39 | TopTop18 | It doesn;t so now what :D |
| 19:07.52 | nevcairiel | everything foxlit? |
| 19:07.54 | mikma | foxlit: yeah ^^ |
| 19:07.56 | TopTop18 | Oh trying thast :D |
| 19:08.14 | TopTop18 | Umm can;t open chat XD My cursor is stuck in the box XD |
| 19:08.38 | TopTop18 | and nevcairiel, esc is not broken, normally works fine |
| 19:08.45 | cncfanatics | I think nevcairiel is broken |
| 19:08.57 | cncfanatics | purl, nevcairiel is also broken |
| 19:08.58 | purl | cncfanatics: cannot alter locked factoids |
| 19:08.58 | nevcairiel | well the inherited template defines a OnEscapePressed that will clear the focus |
| 19:09.02 | TopTop18 | So hwo to get my cursor out in an other way ro change code so it's not placed there/ |
| 19:10.17 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i hate editboxes |
| 19:10.49 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 19:10.50 | TopTop18 | Lol I do to, but I gotta use it :D |
| 19:10.57 | NeoTron | man no one was around to congratulate me on getting level 20 on my shaman... with only just over 15 days played |
| 19:11.20 | nevcairiel | you're fast NeoTron |
| 19:11.28 | NeoTron | speedy indeed |
| 19:11.45 | NeoTron | half those levels were gained from killing stuff to test magic marker, magic dkp, magic targets etc |
| 19:11.55 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 19:12.26 | Dagmar | It took you fifteen days of play time to get a shaman to 20? |
| 19:12.38 | cncfanatics | no |
| 19:12.44 | cncfanatics | it took him fifteen days of testing addons to get a shaman to 20 |
| 19:13.15 | Dagmar | That's almost as sad |
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| 19:13.43 | TopTop18 | Lol my addon testing alt has it's own room in the GoldShire in :D |
| 19:13.53 | TopTop18 | *inn |
| 19:15.20 | TopTop18 | Someone is gonna pay me a visit? EU realms>Eonar>GoldShire Inn>upstairs>shout my name and I'll get ya :D |
| 19:15.24 | NeoTron | Dagmar: addon development takes time. Why is that "sad"? |
| 19:15.49 | Dagmar | It's considerably easier to test a lot of things with a higher level character. |
| 19:16.20 | nevcairiel | Not like it takes long to kill a mob with a lvl 20 char |
| 19:16.33 | NeoTron | the whole point is that I reload my ui a lot |
| 19:16.43 | cncfanatics | Dagmar: you have to consider some people get a lot of whispers when on their main and might want to addondev without anyone anoying them :p |
| 19:16.49 | NeoTron | and it's a lot nicer to have a low level alt with a minimal ui than toggling between minimal and not on a main |
| 19:16.59 | foxlit | Perhaps those people should l2/dnd |
| 19:17.07 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 19:17.09 | Dagmar | That and LoadIt. |
| 19:17.19 | NeoTron | naturally I don't do ALL development on this alt |
| 19:18.28 | Jamash | I do most of my development on the PTR |
| 19:18.35 | nevcairiel | You're whole discussion is pointless. Alot of people get a extra addon dev char because they just don't get bothered by thier guild or just random people. Who are you to judge? |
| 19:19.10 | Dagmar | I'd have to care a little more to actually "judge" |
| 19:20.02 | nevcairiel | Besides, its easier to just log on an alt with no UI then to change your UI on your main all the time, no matter how many addons you use to manage your addons =) |
| 19:20.30 | nevcairiel | When an PTR is up, i usually just go there for dev too. |
| 19:20.32 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: I love you |
| 19:20.33 | nevcairiel | Its nice and quiet |
| 19:20.57 | Dagmar | Meh, I use LoadIt so I can swap out the lot in a hurry |
| 19:23.18 | Jamash | I should get something like that |
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| 19:30.04 | TopTop18 | is Shirik back? |
| 19:30.12 | Cairenn | tackles Shirik |
| 19:30.19 | nevcairiel | is shirik ever gone? |
| 19:30.41 | jnwhiteh | cncfanatics: nor will your gmail account automatically sync :P |
| 19:33.01 | Thunder_Child | well thats a first "Expr:socket() returned -1, reason: can't create socket (No network connection available?)" |
| 19:33.11 | Shirik | why TopTop18 |
| 19:33.18 | Shirik | I'll tell you if I'm back after you say why you want me |
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| 19:34.22 | TopTop18 | Shirik, Remmeber you from a time ago and just like your name :D |
| 19:34.46 | TopTop18 | And thought you got some humor :D |
| 19:34.57 | nevcairiel | must be another shirik |
| 19:35.56 | TopTop18 | Why that? |
| 19:36.21 | nevcairiel | he is rarely funny |
| 19:36.23 | TopTop18 | And does Shirik knows something about coding? |
| 19:36.43 | TopTop18 | Ah well could be I was wrong then :D |
| 19:41.58 | Fisker- | fondles Shirik's butt |
| 19:42.03 | TopTop18 | gtg guys, Thanks for all the help! I'll start making everything like it has to be tomorrow, after that i can finally add functionality XD |
| 20:08.28 | Adys | [1. General] [Barnesy]: does anyone know where the pimp my mount npc is |
| 20:08.29 | Adys | (ptr) |
| 20:08.52 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 20:09.09 | Jamash | awesome |
| 20:18.15 | TT18|AFK | LOL!!! |
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| 20:28.20 | Arrowmaster | hmm my forum posts dont have a guild listed on them, i might have gotten gkicked |
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| 20:35.01 | Zyndrome | or forums being poo as usual |
| 20:35.16 | kd3 | bah... didn't post this in here |
| 20:35.18 | kd3 | lol. (sfw): http://technology.todaysbigthing.com/2009/04/03 |
| 20:37.45 | Fisker- | harasses kd3 |
| 20:39.11 | nevcairiel | that is pretty awesome |
| 20:40.17 | Jamash | huh |
| 20:40.48 | Fisker- | i hate it |
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| 20:41.05 | Jamash | you hate everything |
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| 20:41.33 | Zyndrome | the song used is "SlagsmÄlsklubben - Sponsored by Destiny" , superior swedish music of course |
| 20:56.47 | TT18|AFK | Bye all! |
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| 21:16.28 | foxlit | " i just think blizz doesnt want to give it to us" |
| 21:16.37 | foxlit | most. awesome. troll. ever. |
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| 21:19.40 | foxlit | Do downranked spells still suffer from a modifier penalty? |
| 21:20.49 | Dagmar | Do they cost extra to cast? Yes. |
| 21:21.04 | foxlit | That was not the question, unfortunately |
| 21:21.04 | |Jelly| | You can be in a guild and still in the guild recruitment channel, right? |
| 21:21.28 | foxlit | The cost thing is an obvious % of base mana adjustment to make them match up to fixed costs at desired levels. |
| 21:21.38 | Seerah | |Jelly|: yes - this is how you can recruit for your guild ;) |
| 21:21.49 | |Jelly| | How do you join it? |
| 21:21.56 | foxlit | However, what they did before the new resource cost scaling is reduce the effect your + spell damage has on lower-rank spells |
| 21:22.03 | Seerah | dunno - I never am in it ;) |
| 21:22.06 | |Jelly| | It's not listed in my Global Channels. |
| 21:22.08 | foxlit | The question was whether that's still around. |
| 21:22.18 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 21:22.20 | zenzelezz | /join whateveritscalled? |
| 21:22.36 | zenzelezz | guildrecruitment or lookingforguild or something |
| 21:28.43 | Shirik | foxlit, can you give me a good reason to downrank spells? |
| 21:28.54 | |Jelly| | "hard mode" |
| 21:28.56 | Shirik | if not, I don't understand why you would care to knwo |
| 21:29.12 | foxlit | There isn't one. Nevertheless, I want to know. |
| 21:29.31 | foxlit | (reduced cast time for some ranks, but meh -- it's not *that* good a reason) |
| 21:29.56 | Shirik | well my rank 1 greater heal just healed me for 1070, and I have 1500 SP unbuffed |
| 21:30.23 | foxlit | So it's clearly still there. |
| 21:30.49 | Shirik | yes, especially considering I have a ton of talents to improve the coefficient on greater heal |
| 21:31.00 | foxlit | Which utterly sucks. |
| 21:31.09 | foxlit | (the behavior, not the coefficient) |
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| 21:34.43 | TC-Away | oh goody, i managed to screw up DHCP on my computer somehow |
| 21:35.54 | Thunder_Child | and now it wont start |
| 21:40.52 | Adys | my fucking computer |
| 21:40.53 | Adys | is alive |
| 21:41.00 | Adys | someone help me, the robots are taking over |
| 21:41.06 | kd3 | wouldn't that be... kinda painful? |
| 21:41.25 | Adys | every time i start the script it fucks up in the weirdest ways |
| 21:41.28 | Adys | except |
| 21:41.30 | Aelobin | winks slyly at Cairenn. |
| 21:41.32 | Adys | if the debugging is in place |
| 21:41.37 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 21:41.43 | kd3 | oh, so it's a heisenbug? |
| 21:41.44 | Aelobin | xD |
| 21:41.48 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:42.38 | Wraithan | ugh, had a paladin drop 3 infections in the middle on Grbo |
| 21:42.42 | Wraithan | Grob |
| 21:42.47 | Wraithan | pissed me off so much |
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| 21:45.17 | Adys | http://python.pastebin.com/m2a9ac2b2 |
| 21:45.22 | Adys | part 1 is with debugging |
| 21:45.24 | Adys | part 2 is without |
| 21:45.31 | Adys | it should be a bunch of 0 |
| 21:46.13 | kd3 | ! |
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| 21:49.50 | Aelobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Y01pYM4yE&feature=channel |
| 21:49.55 | Aelobin | makes me lol everytime i watch it :P |
| 21:50.30 | Adys | right wow |
| 21:50.33 | Adys | just wow |
| 21:50.38 | Adys | for whoever wrote bitarray |
| 21:50.47 | Adys | "Uninitialized" means "having random values" |
| 21:50.56 | Kalroth | >< |
| 21:51.08 | Kalroth | but it's hard to initialize a bit! |
| 21:51.15 | Adys | swhat she said |
| 21:51.19 | kd3 | so uh. wow |
| 21:51.20 | Adys | had to setall(False) on init |
| 21:51.32 | kd3 | looks for some alcohol |
| 21:51.41 | Adys | steals kd3's alcohol and whales |
| 21:52.07 | Dagmar | Aelobin: Dude that is messed up |
| 21:52.16 | Aelobin | xD |
| 21:52.26 | Aelobin | it's just somegreybloke :P |
| 21:52.49 | Cairenn | Guys, just out of curiosity, has anyone in here received a C&D from Blizz since the new policy went into effect? I keep hearing that there have been C&Ds sent out, but I have yet to talk to someone that has actually received one, or been given something more than "I heard that they've been sent". Never any actual confirmed information on who has gotten one. |
| 21:53.33 | Dagmar | Probably just the usual rounds of completely-made-up-gossip the kiddies like to spin |
| 21:53.34 | kd3 | I haven't heard anything yet... but seriously, C&Ds? |
| 21:53.42 | kd3 | agrees with dagmar |
| 21:53.56 | Cairenn | that's what I'm hearing, and I'm not sure that it's just made up gossip |
| 21:54.24 | Cairenn | since, supposedly, the EFF lawyers are saying that they are working with authors who have received them |
| 21:54.37 | Matrix110 | C&D? |
| 21:54.39 | Cairenn | again, supposedly, I've heard that, etc |
| 21:54.42 | Cairenn | Cease & Desist |
| 21:54.51 | Matrix110 | ah |
| 21:55.09 | kd3 | hm... wonder if my friend at the eff is still with them? |
| 21:55.14 | Matrix110 | Well I bet you there are some authors that received them because there were reasons for the policy to begin with :P |
| 21:55.15 | kd3 | fires off a curious email |
| 21:55.19 | Cairenn | note the qualifications I'm putting on my statements, and it's precisely those qualifications that I'm trying to get confirmed or denied |
| 21:55.51 | Adys | Cairenn: I have |
| 21:55.52 | Dagmar | Absolutely nothing on EFF's site to corroborate that |
| 21:55.54 | Cairenn | I would really love to know /for sure/ that this mod or that author has or hasn't |
| 21:55.55 | Adys | they didnt like my Glider fork |
| 21:56.00 | Cairenn | Adys: :p |
| 21:56.37 | Matrix110 | ask the Carbonite guys if any got a C&D they did :P |
| 21:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Where have you heard that? |
| 21:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I'm all curious |
| 21:56.47 | Cairenn | a number of different places |
| 21:57.10 | Cairenn | I've seen it said on the official ui forums, on WoWI, heard it in PMs, IMs ... |
| 21:57.14 | foxlit | Are they purposefully random, or just uninitialized? |
| 21:57.23 | foxlit | damn you, scrollback! |
| 21:57.37 | Cairenn | but never from someone who has actually received on themselves/can give me the name of an author/mod that has |
| 21:58.07 | Dagmar | Of course. THey're all referencing the original ficticious troll posting. |
| 21:58.39 | Dagmar | Carbonite's got a thing on their site (have had for a bit now) saying they're working on becoming fully compliant with the policies |
| 21:58.57 | Cairenn | they are compliant, WoWI is their exclusive host now |
| 21:58.59 | Cairenn | :p |
| 21:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 21:59.46 | Cairenn | their site is still up, but they're phasing it out as they get set up on WoWI |
| 21:59.57 | Dagmar | Well, unfortunately we're in the middle of a weekend cycle, again |
| 22:00.12 | kd3 | wonders if anyone's gotten an email back from wowui@blizz yet? |
| 22:00.20 | Cairenn | not that I've hard, kd3 |
| 22:00.26 | Cairenn | I've asked that, too |
| 22:00.32 | Cairenn | I rebumped the thread, asking |
| 22:01.26 | Cairenn | I would just really love to get some actual confirmation or rebuttal to the whole "there have been C&Ds sent" ... |
| 22:01.40 | foxlit | Curiosity killed the cat, Cairenn :) |
| 22:01.45 | Dagmar | They might have said something to Zygor |
| 22:01.57 | Cairenn | foxlit: "satisfaction brought it back" |
| 22:02.11 | foxlit | Never heard that one. |
| 22:02.14 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:02.21 | Cairenn | it's the 2nd half of the saying |
| 22:02.39 | Thunder_Child | we will just ignore it came about much later than the first part |
| 22:02.53 | Thunder_Child | s/ignore/ignore that/ |
| 22:03.01 | foxlit | wikipedia has that down as "A less frequent rejoinder" |
| 22:03.13 | Cairenn | just like most people don't know the second half of "great minds think alike" |
| 22:03.22 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 22:03.22 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at Cairenn |
| 22:03.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:03.51 | Cairenn | how very apropos that it did a cat one ;) |
| 22:04.00 | foxlit | I oppose the notion of "halves" here. |
| 22:04.25 | foxlit | They're opposites; every proverb should have one. |
| 22:04.53 | Dagmar | Yeah, like "Sometimes when you're making omelets, a few people have to get killed" |
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| 22:21.35 | Shirik | Shadowed: ping |
| 22:21.41 | Shadowed | Shirik pong |
| 22:21.45 | Shirik | done |
| 22:21.50 | Shadowed | thanks |
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| 22:27.37 | Shirik | ok someone explain this to me |
| 22:27.46 | Shirik | If you create an event on the calendar, you can just type each person's name in, right? |
| 22:27.48 | Thunder_Child | well, when a man and woman love each other.... |
| 22:28.09 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:28.14 | Shirik | ok |
| 22:28.25 | Shirik | so what exactly is the "security" involved in not allowing members to create guild events? |
| 22:28.39 | Shirik | It would be trivial for an addon to work around that by simply inviting all members manually |
| 22:28.46 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:30.20 | foxlit | are guild events distinguishable in some other fashion? |
| 22:30.43 | Thunder_Child | mass invite |
| 22:31.29 | foxlit | Anyone implemented dragging spells onto your buttons? |
| 22:32.00 | foxlit | I'm wondering whether there's a mechanism that lets you resolve the spell ID you get in the drag handler to a spell name you (presumably) need to use in an attribute. |
| 22:37.39 | foxlit | There isn't, as far as I can see. Which sort of sucks :( |
| 22:40.37 | foxlit | I wonder if nevcairiel implemented it |
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| 22:44.43 | Shirik | Rofl tekkub, I like your /(?:ri|mp)aa/ |
| 22:44.52 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 22:44.58 | tekkub | glad someone got it |
| 22:46.27 | Legorol | *sigh* it's annoying when this happens: someone asks you to link your profession, then asks you if you can make item X |
| 22:46.41 | foxlit | sighs |
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| 22:47.44 | tekkub | that's where you just say no |
| 22:47.57 | Legorol | What's even worse: he whispers me if i can make item X, I say yes. He comes to me and gives me mats. I link him item Y and ask if he wants that one. He says yes. I ask him if he is sure, because earlier he whispered me X, so does he want X or Y? |
| 22:49.26 | tekkub | this is why I only deal with the AH |
| 22:49.32 | tekkub | it doesn't give me lip |
| 22:49.46 | Legorol | Shirik: with regards to your question relating to Guild Events, are you talking about current live implementation, or the one on the PTR? |
| 22:49.52 | Shirik | current |
| 22:50.06 | foxlit | How is it that the issue of (spellId, book) -> (spellName) mapping never came up for secure handlers? |
| 22:50.09 | Legorol | ok. I didn't think there are Guild Events on live, are there? |
| 22:50.18 | Legorol | just Guild Announcements, and Events |
| 22:50.34 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:50.41 | Shirik | there are events, with mass invite of guild capability |
| 22:50.45 | Legorol | yes |
| 22:50.48 | foxlit | You have to maintain a bloodly lookup table in a restricted environment just to implement something trivial |
| 22:50.48 | Shirik | however, the mass invite capability can be restricted to certain people |
| 22:50.51 | Shirik | which seems pretty stupid to me |
| 22:50.56 | Legorol | yes, i know that, and that is indeed stupid |
| 22:51.15 | Legorol | reason i was asking you to clarify is because the PTR introduces something called Guild Events, which differs from how current Events work |
| 22:51.27 | Shirik | would you like to elaborate? |
| 22:51.32 | Legorol | sure |
| 22:51.34 | Shadowed | foxlit working with GetActionInfo, or spell dragging in general? |
| 22:51.36 | Legorol | Guild Events work signup-style |
| 22:51.45 | Legorol | you don't need to invite people anymore, any guild member can sign up |
| 22:51.51 | foxlit | Shadowed: in general |
| 22:52.08 | Legorol | you can still create the current live style invite-based Events, if you wish |
| 22:52.21 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, i assume you can create a min lvl for the event? |
| 22:52.25 | Shirik | any? |
| 22:52.30 | Shirik | yeah, what about rank |
| 22:52.36 | Legorol | uhm, you can probably put restrictions on, i forget |
| 22:52.43 | foxlit | I don't mind actions -- you can just set "type","action" and "action",value -- but spells are silly |
| 22:52.51 | Legorol | the important part is that, at last, you don't have to fiddle with the silly invitation thing if you don't want to |
| 22:53.00 | Legorol | This is something many people complained about when the calendar first launched |
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| 22:58.03 | Thunder_Child | Legorol, if a restriction is on can people that dont match that restrcition still see it? |
| 22:58.19 | Thunder_Child | all i care about it being able to see them if i am on an alt |
| 23:01.36 | Legorol | Thunder_Child: i haven't tested, but my guess would be no. |
| 23:01.55 | Legorol | Blizz wants to reduce bandwidth as much as possible, so you usually can't see stuff you can't interact with on the calendar. |
| 23:12.44 | Adys | so uh |
| 23:12.54 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.54 | Adys | Im not much into music |
| 23:13.04 | Adys | but been wondering |
| 23:13.04 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSPyfh75YXc |
| 23:13.17 | Adys | if thunderfall was a ref to this one |
| 23:14.15 | tekkub | they look gay |
| 23:14.36 | Adys | well so do the frozen giants in thunderfall |
| 23:14.39 | Adys | points for me |
| 23:15.16 | tekkub | maybe it's just too much CGI |
| 23:15.35 | tekkub | and thunderfall is the coolest little subzone in NR :P |
| 23:15.54 | Adys | yea |
| 23:16.00 | Adys | particularly before it gets populated |
| 23:19.31 | Thunder_Child | hahahaha "The program is not visible. The file is a trustworthy file from Microsoft. Therefore the technical security rating is 15% dangerous," |
| 23:22.34 | kd3 | lol |
| 23:30.46 | Jamash | aceconfig confuses me |
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| 23:32.55 | Jamash | so if I want to have a command line-only option with multiple arguments, do I define a nested structure in AceConfig or write a handler with AceConsole? |
| 23:34.43 | foxlit | I believe there's #wowace for that particular brand of lunacy :) |
| 23:34.49 | Jamash | orly |
| 23:35.01 | foxlit | nowai! |
| 23:35.13 | Jamash | I'll ask there then |
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| 23:47.34 | Tewan | erm |
| 23:47.43 | Tewan | Does the WoWUI Addon Manager still exist? |
| 23:48.11 | Tewan | Ah, nevermind, found it |
| 23:48.12 | Tewan | :D |
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| 23:59.48 | DWSR | anyone that can help me make it so that a kgpanel shows/hides with my party/raid frames inPitbull? |
| 23:59.54 | DWSR | I'm unclear as to what I need |
