| 00:09.52 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_020525.jpg |
| 00:09.57 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_020706.jpg |
| 00:10.18 | Legorol | with regards to MPQs, the interesting thing is that they dont' have to have the same hashes on every machine |
| 00:10.37 | Legorol | depending on the exact path of patching that your client install went through, they actually end up with different hashes |
| 00:11.10 | Tekkub | I'll hash you |
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| 00:14.09 | Lunessa | Tekkub: Can I get bacon instead of hash? And maybe some jam for the toast? |
| 00:14.34 | Tekkub | special suace only |
| 00:14.39 | Tekkub | fresh squeezed |
| 00:14.41 | Thunder_Child | you people need to stop making me hungry |
| 00:15.49 | Shirik | Legorol: I didn't realize they actually do have different hashes, though the point I was trying to make was indeed that they CAN |
| 00:16.25 | Legorol | i had two different machines having different hashes on patch.mpq (which is the one that most likely differs) and the repair tool ran fine on both |
| 00:16.51 | Adys | same install? |
| 00:16.55 | Adys | wlk/bc on both |
| 00:17.11 | Adys | and er, patched at the same time too? |
| 00:17.43 | kd3 | wahahaha... they're crying about craigslist on abc nightly news |
| 00:18.02 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_021632.jpg and http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_021700.jpg |
| 00:18.06 | mikma | cute ain't it? |
| 00:18.20 | mikma | since alliance ain't got a "yell", i'll just go with what kd3 said. |
| 00:18.44 | Adys | red's kinda weird |
| 00:18.55 | Adys | particularly that red |
| 00:18.58 | Adys | go for a darker red |
| 00:19.01 | Adys | maybe an icon next to it |
| 00:19.03 | mikma | it's 1:1 horde red :) |
| 00:19.18 | Tekkub | mikma, it's "unleash monkey overdrive" |
| 00:19.51 | mikma | tekkub: no-one (except you) will get that one :( |
| 00:19.54 | mikma | adys: frametext:SetTextColor(ChatTypeInfo["BG_SYSTEM_"..faction].r,ChatTypeInfo["BG_SYSTEM_"..faction].g,ChatTypeInfo["BG_SYSTEM_"..faction].b,1) |
| 00:20.02 | foxlit | go find a wrynn quote |
| 00:20.04 | Tekkub | and why is that a problem |
| 00:20.13 | mikma | i thought of the icon but that's an overkill imho |
| 00:20.22 | Tekkub | yea just use "King's on her friend" |
| 00:20.49 | mikma | foxlit: kinda want something that alliance members yell when they charge at battle |
| 00:20.58 | mikma | prolly like "lol noob l2play" |
| 00:21.04 | foxlit | "It ends now, Warchief. ATTACK! FOR STORMWIND! FOR BOLVAR! FOR THE ALLIANCE! "" |
| 00:21.23 | mikma | "horde is hacking again!" |
| 00:21.35 | mikma | oh this is a new one: |
| 00:21.48 | mikma | "they win because they lag-hack" |
| 00:22.02 | Tekkub | At least we capped stables |
| 00:23.57 | Tekkub | mikma, that totally needs to be a popbar BTW |
| 00:24.02 | Adys | for bolvar? |
| 00:24.09 | Tekkub | base button, port/tele dalaran |
| 00:24.09 | Adys | who yells in the name of a dead guy? |
| 00:24.15 | Tekkub | depending on if you're in party |
| 00:24.28 | Tekkub | his secret buttlover? |
| 00:24.29 | mikma | tekkub: i already got miself a popbar, it's there right in middle of the screen ^^ |
| 00:24.52 | Tekkub | looks like just a frame of buttons to me :P |
| 00:24.56 | foxlit | it totally needs to be an OPie ring.. oh, wait, it is <3 |
| 00:25.02 | Tekkub | and you still have all your shit on your actionbar |
| 00:25.09 | Tekkub | which says to me it's not usable yet |
| 00:25.51 | mikma | tekkub: of course i have them in actionbar because i'm still coding this one :D the addon is actually usable, but needs hack if i wanna load it and /script Portalframe:Show() / Hide() ... ;) |
| 00:26.10 | Tekkub | yea that's not a popbar! |
| 00:26.18 | Tekkub | that's a frame you're manually showing |
| 00:26.32 | mikma | it will be! hehe, right when i'm actually adding the keybind |
| 00:27.40 | mikma | there propably ain't any way that UnitFactionGroup returns anything other than Alliance/Horde? |
| 00:28.05 | Shirik | Question, if your friend's girlfriend says to you ":-( I uh... :-( I messed up and [he] won't wake up" |
| 00:28.10 | Shirik | what's the first thing you think? |
| 00:28.24 | Tekkub | "so?" |
| 00:28.29 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:28.35 | mikma | shirik: "you ¤%&!¤%&" |
| 00:28.42 | Shirik | wtf is that symbol |
| 00:28.45 | Shirik | is it really on your keyboard? |
| 00:28.49 | mikma | which one :P |
| 00:28.56 | mikma | ¤ ? |
| 00:29.00 | Shirik | ¤ |
| 00:29.06 | Lunessa | Shirik: I think I need to call paramedics. |
| 00:29.16 | Shirik | Lunessa: That's basically what I was thinking :P |
| 00:29.37 | mikma | shirik: if you mean that symbol, i have no idea what it stands for :D |
| 00:29.38 | Lunessa | Don't leave us hanging man, what's next? |
| 00:29.40 | Tekkub | Shirik, it's a shuriken (sp?) |
| 00:29.40 | batbot | Tekkub, nothing found. |
| 00:29.48 | Tekkub | batbot, fuck off |
| 00:29.51 | Shirik | that's the right spelling, despite batbot |
| 00:29.53 | Shirik | but |
| 00:29.53 | mikma | >o< looks like that or so |
| 00:30.00 | Shirik | wtf is it |
| 00:30.20 | Tekkub | l2charmap? |
| 00:30.36 | Lunessa | Shirik: It's an End of Cell marker in tables in Office. |
| 00:30.37 | Tekkub | it's a generic currency sign |
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| 00:31.03 | mikma | shirik: öäå !! |
| 00:31.14 | Shirik | stop that! |
| 00:31.53 | mikma | those are "default" symbols in my language actually... except å .. freaking sweden |
| 00:32.05 | mikma | like: Kimi Räikkönen |
| 00:32.10 | mikma | Mika Häkkinen :D |
| 00:32.32 | Tekkub | øffe! |
| 00:36.00 | Tem | Shirik, um, what's the story? |
| 00:36.06 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:36.26 | Tem | and now he won't wake up... |
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| 00:36.50 | foxlit | ... for a while. |
| 00:37.03 | foxlit | is the easiest logical continuation of that sentence. |
| 00:37.29 | Hirsute | Does prospecting still yield powders? |
| 00:37.43 | Tekkub | only adaman |
| 00:37.44 | mikma | hirsute: nope |
| 00:37.54 | Hirsute | Ah, good to know. |
| 00:37.58 | Shirik | Tem: ? |
| 00:38.56 | Lunessa | http://www.supermegatopia.com/booty/gallery/gallery.php?thisLink=jlawow.jpg - Bwahahahaha |
| 00:44.26 | kd3 | has GetQuestLogChoiceInfo changed? |
| 00:44.45 | kd3 | one of my old (wrath alpha) macros is failing horribly |
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| 00:49.37 | kd3 | as a simple test: |
| 00:49.42 | kd3 | ./run local a,b,c,d,e=GetQuestLogChoiceInfo(1);a=a or 'a';b=b or 'b'; c=c or 'c';d=d or 'd';e=e or 'e';ChatFrame1:AddMessage(strjoin('/',a,b,c,d,e)) |
| 00:49.49 | kd3 | is returning a/b/1/0/e |
| 00:49.52 | kd3 | which I know is bogus |
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| 00:50.28 | Thunder_Child | i did that and got "[04:50] Wandering Healer's Kilt/Interface\Icons\INV_Pants_Cloth_06/1/2/1" |
| 00:50.44 | kd3 | then yay, bug report time |
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| 00:51.05 | Thunder_Child | i wasnt at a questgiver if that makes a diff though |
| 00:51.12 | End | kd3: on live? |
| 00:51.15 | kd3 | ptr |
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| 00:53.41 | kd3 | the whole macro's at http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Macros#Quest_rewards which still looks like it'd work, so I don't get it |
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| 01:01.10 | Pytlask | kd3: Are you sure the quest has rewards? |
| 01:01.14 | kd3 | yes |
| 01:01.33 | kd3 | and now it works... sigh |
| 01:02.30 | Pytlask | Maybe you're hallucinating :D Most people think they see little green men walking on the ceiling, but you think you see API bugs. |
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| 01:05.51 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mage'_guide_to_tanking |
| 01:06.04 | foxlit | I'm both amused and concerned... very, very concerned. |
| 01:06.22 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Mage's_guide_to_tanking that is |
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| 01:13.02 | Cidan | ~seen |
| 01:18.45 | Ackis | http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk44/madspoon1/guilddisband.jpg <-- rofl my guild bye bye |
| 01:18.57 | Cidan | Ackis: D: |
| 01:20.03 | Cidan | That guild looks like it was run by a fucking retard. |
| 01:20.06 | Cidan | So. |
| 01:20.19 | Ackis | someone took over his acct |
| 01:20.36 | Cidan | Oh |
| 01:20.40 | Cidan | Well |
| 01:20.45 | Cidan | My previous statement still stands. |
| 01:20.53 | Ackis | lol yah it was a terrible guild |
| 01:20.59 | Ackis | some nice people though |
| 01:26.31 | Jamash | anyone running a guild should be shot if they don't have an authenticator |
| 01:27.23 | Shirik | Spring break, week after next |
| 01:27.29 | Cidan | Mine is this next week |
| 01:27.29 | Cidan | but |
| 01:27.30 | Shirik | I'm debating coming up |
| 01:27.31 | Cidan | I'll make time |
| 01:27.32 | Cidan | well |
| 01:27.34 | Cidan | if you come |
| 01:27.38 | Cidan | We go eat. |
| 01:27.40 | Cidan | and |
| 01:27.43 | Cidan | secks. |
| 01:27.44 | Shirik | noodles? |
| 01:27.48 | Mikk | oO |
| 01:27.52 | Cidan | ...death to noodles. |
| 01:27.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:28.11 | Cidan | I pooped for days after those damn noodles. |
| 01:28.19 | Shirik | we should go somewhere good, like Outback. And this time I get to pay since you paid last time |
| 01:28.25 | Cidan | D: |
| 01:28.28 | Cidan | Maybe. |
| 01:28.32 | Cidan | To the paying bit. |
| 01:28.39 | Mikk | So you're actually aiming for quitting pooping? |
| 01:28.43 | Cidan | Yes. |
| 01:28.43 | Mikk | Wouldn't that be bad? |
| 01:28.48 | Cidan | I will sew my asshole shut. |
| 01:29.45 | Cidan | And suddenly, silence. |
| 01:30.26 | Mikk | I'm tempted to tell you a story my police guildie shared with me today but I probably shouldn't in open & logged channel |
| 01:31.01 | Adys | why am I under the impression you'll be telling it within the next 2 mins? |
| 01:31.15 | Mikk | Because I have no self restraint? =P |
| 01:31.20 | Adys | gogo then |
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| 01:32.01 | Mikk | (Note that I blame Adys now) So, he logs on early in the morning after his night shift. Saying "oh my god guys, you're never going to believe this" |
| 01:32.32 | Mikk | Apparently, he+partner were sent out to remove a homeless dude that had taken up residence somewhere where he should not |
| 01:32.47 | Mikk | When they arrived, he was mostly naked, and flinging poop at them |
| 01:32.56 | Mikk | This is not the worst part. |
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| 01:33.45 | Mikk | It turns out that he had also been saving his ... human waste in ~50 whiskey bottles. |
| 01:33.52 | Cidan | oh shit |
| 01:33.56 | Cidan | That's fucking awesome. |
| 01:34.01 | Adys | ~rimshot Cidan |
| 01:34.06 | Cidan | I so want to start doing that. |
| 01:34.36 | Jamash | you want to be a homeless person who saves their excrement in whiskey bottles? |
| 01:34.43 | Mikk | After a while, he must have ran out of bottles or something (sod knows). He had gotten hold of a syringe, and had started taking mushed up excrements & piss and shooting it into himself |
| 01:34.50 | Cidan | Jamash: right! |
| 01:34.53 | Jamash | D: |
| 01:35.02 | Mikk | When they arrested him, he was in the process of injecting some in his own ballsack |
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| 01:35.25 | kd3 | wtf |
| 01:35.41 | Adys | is this still not the worst part? |
| 01:35.47 | Mikk | That would be the worst part |
| 01:35.59 | Adys | okay (Im not always sure with you) |
| 01:36.06 | Mikk | (This was not something he had just picked up. He had done it in other areas of his body, creating very sexy brownish tattoo blots) |
| 01:36.29 | Jamash | sounds like a good way to get gangrene |
| 01:36.46 | Adys | tatoos are so cool though |
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| 01:36.59 | Mikk | Not a single "yuck, that's sick"? oO |
| 01:37.09 | Adys | what is? |
| 01:37.12 | Jamash | I think that's assumed. |
| 01:37.17 | foxlit | sick would rhyme with Mikk, wouldn't it? |
| 01:38.08 | Cidan | Never a dull moment in the dev channel, let me fucking tell you. |
| 01:38.17 | Cidan | Never, a dull, moment. |
| 01:38.41 | Adys | saving poop in bottles yet, Cidan ? |
| 01:39.05 | Cidan | Not yet, I just pooped about 1 1/2 hours ago, so. |
| 01:39.10 | Cidan | Starting from here on in though. |
| 01:39.46 | Jamash | there are probably easier ways to get into News of the Weird |
| 01:39.55 | mikma | mikk: i'm sorry to hear what happened to your father |
| 01:40.07 | Adys | (this is all going in the wowiquotes) |
| 01:40.08 | mikma | but was still kinda entertaining |
| 01:40.31 | mikma | should i now link the NSFW human cow link? |
| 01:40.49 | Jamash | no |
| 01:41.01 | mikma | NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW http://www.amateur-blogs.com/free_galleries/2009/7364/ |
| 01:41.08 | Jamash | Not clicking. |
| 01:41.16 | mikma | no worries, i already did ;) |
| 01:41.36 | mikma | i think mikk will enjoy that link |
| 01:41.59 | mikma | atleast i rofl'd (and my wife too when she saw that) |
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| 02:24.07 | Mikk | mikma: i suggest you google "pony play", you might like it or something :P |
| 02:25.18 | Jamash | haw |
| 02:28.17 | mikma | mikk: only if you are up the play with me |
| 02:30.43 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtBxhFc24A |
| 02:30.44 | Mikk | IHNJ, IJLTS "Medium-sized buttplug with horse tail hair" |
| 02:31.16 | Corrodias | neat |
| 02:31.31 | Adys | Mikk: stop talking about my consoles and check that link |
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| 02:35.22 | mikma | adys: i like how the one parks for 4 minutes |
| 02:35.29 | Mikk | hahahahahahaha |
| 02:35.35 | Mikk | yeah i was laughing myself silly at that one =) |
| 02:35.44 | mikma | then the man from other car walks there and parks tthe car |
| 02:35.55 | Adys | yeah |
| 02:36.09 | NeoTron | ah the female driver video |
| 02:36.28 | NeoTron | my dad loved that one |
| 02:36.58 | kd3 | oh geez. hamster dance? |
| 02:37.01 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.12 | Adys | eh? |
| 02:37.46 | Adys | gah |
| 02:37.48 | Adys | sound died again |
| 02:37.52 | mikma | mutetube.com |
| 02:37.53 | Adys | thought there was no sound |
| 02:37.56 | mikma | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 02:38.15 | Adys | mikma: Vernon Tool: Leading global expert Pipe and Tube Cutting machines |
| 02:38.26 | mikma | yes, theres the fuxing hamsterdancetechnodanceeuropopcrap |
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| 02:41.24 | NeoTron | grea |
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| 02:46.56 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! illustration of the dragon soul! finally! |
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| 02:50.02 | Kagashin | hey i got a problem, working with making my first addon, and im using http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ to validate it but i keep getting an error, is anyone able to help? |
| 02:50.27 | Kagashin | error is: Line 22: element FontString: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}FontString': Missing child element(s). Expected is one of ( {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Size, {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Anchors ). |
| 02:50.54 | Kagashin | and line 22 is: <FontString name="$parentText" inherits="GameFontNormalSmall" justifyH="CENTER" setAllPoints="true" text="CombatTracker" /> |
| 02:51.43 | Jamash | looks like you need a child element, either Size or Anchors |
| 02:53.31 | Kagashin | so just add a <size></size> |
| 02:53.51 | NightHawkTheSane | aaand.. 5/5 t7.5 yay |
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| 02:57.17 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: homoes or? |
| 02:57.43 | Gnarfoz | it's t7.25 anyway |
| 02:57.43 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:57.47 | Kagashin | kk thx Jamash, that worked |
| 02:57.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: whatever. T7-25, how's that? :P |
| 02:58.09 | Gnarfoz | sounds like a US highway |
| 02:58.20 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's a US highway. |
| 02:58.20 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 02:58.26 | Gnarfoz | I'd fancy that |
| 02:58.27 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 02:58.44 | Gnarfoz | she'd be at least 6000km away from me at all times |
| 02:58.44 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:58.53 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha |
| 02:59.36 | Dagmar | On the subject of gear classifications, has anyone seen any existing work on figuring out specifically how items gegt budgeted points based on iLeevl? |
| 02:59.57 | NightHawkTheSane | there used to be rather extensive research on that |
| 03:00.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno if it's on wowwiki anywhere |
| 03:00.16 | kd3 | formulas: item level |
| 03:00.18 | kd3 | search for that |
| 03:00.30 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3 is the wowwiki guru. |
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| 03:01.00 | kd3 | being an admin kinda requires knowing your way around... >.> |
| 03:01.01 | Dagmar | Yeah I threw a few keywords at it earlier and didn't come up with anything but I was in a hurry... Lemme look again |
| 03:01.03 | Dagmar | Thanks kd3 |
| 03:01.07 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Item_level#Calculating_Item_Level |
| 03:01.20 | kd3 | not that those numbers may be accurate post-bc... |
| 03:02.19 | Dagmar | Well, "close" would be enough for me, there's holy moleys of stat effects i've never seen before and I coulnd't figure out any rhyme or reason to their cost |
| 03:02.51 | Dagmar | I'm going to try to come up with some vectors for evaluating gear based on spec |
| 03:04.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: well, when it comes to non-standard or difficult-to-quantify bonuses/effects, it may be little more than voodoo as far as we're concerned as to how much 'stat points' it costs |
| 03:04.20 | Dagmar | Just worrying about hunter stuff at the moment, since that's the gear I can most easily just look at and say "No, that's not right" |
| 03:04.38 | Syzgyn | Question: Has anything been said about a new wing under wyrmrest in 3.1? I think my RL is full of shit |
| 03:05.18 | Dagmar | But logically, I should be able to take two pieces of gear, do some math on the stats they assign for weighting and get something approximating DPS-contribution, or at least reduce it to a smaller number of variables (2 or 3) |
| 03:05.41 | Dagmar | Syzgyn: They're adding Ulduar |
| 03:05.55 | Dagmar | In theory, testing started on Hodir on the US PvE server about five minutes ago |
| 03:06.05 | Gnarfoz | they *said* they'd add further wings to Wymrest, too |
| 03:06.07 | kd3 | they saw that fake patch notes list on wowi a few weeks back |
| 03:06.15 | kd3 | wowinsider* |
| 03:06.18 | Dagmar | THat was good work someone did there |
| 03:06.23 | Dagmar | It was pretty convincing in the right place |
| 03:06.24 | Dagmar | s |
| 03:06.41 | Dagmar | As far as spoofs go, whoever put that together should absolutely do something for Apr 1 |
| 03:07.23 | Dagmar | I just *really* wish they'd bring the hammer down on trolls on the PTR forum |
| 03:08.05 | Syzgyn | If only |
| 03:08.49 | Dagmar | YEah well, it's really clouding the water |
| 03:09.19 | Dagmar | Noobs see it and then they make these long posts about how such and such spec isn't competitive, when in reality there's about a 8% difference |
| 03:10.13 | Dagmar | Or like that great WWS report someone posted with stats from few days ago that was clearly looking to make people complain that warriors were egregiously underpowered |
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| 03:10.42 | kd3 | the great thing about numbers is that you can make them say whatever you want |
| 03:10.47 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:10.52 | Thunder_Child | like 1337? |
| 03:10.56 | kd3 | s/numbers/statistics/ |
| 03:11.09 | Dagmar | I wouldn't say it's that simple |
| 03:11.35 | Dagmar | The trolls are taking advantage of the fact that for anyone to dispute their nonsense requires a disporportionately long-winded response |
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| 03:12.03 | Dagmar | That WWS report in particular... It's really obvious hunter pets were malfunctioning because of doublestacking a buff |
| 03:12.22 | Landrell | which buff? |
| 03:12.22 | Dagmar | It's so broken mods should have just nuked the post |
| 03:12.48 | Dagmar | One that winds up with them having more attack power than their owners by a large margin |
| 03:13.11 | Landrell | interesting |
| 03:13.41 | Landrell | And there aren't many that do that. I'm almost curious to figure out which one now. |
| 03:13.57 | Dagmar | Perception of stats has more effect on people who don't work out the math themselves than anything else |
| 03:14.25 | mikma | mikk: moo, moo, mooooo! |
| 03:14.29 | Dagmar | So if there's all these posts taking about uncompettive yadda yadda you wind up with specs being underrepresented because you can't get groups |
| 03:14.52 | Landrell | True. I used to be one of those people who hated the arithematic equations trying to figure out what one would need for such and such and etc. |
| 03:15.16 | Dagmar | I don't like it in thne least |
| 03:15.23 | Dagmar | ...but the work pays off |
| 03:15.38 | Dagmar | Squeezed another 200dps out of my hunter this week |
| 03:16.12 | ilovemrdoe | I think it was wild hunt that was bugged |
| 03:16.13 | Dagmar | ...but I'll freely admit that figuring that out I did *not* do the math by hand--I simply beat more stupid out of Rawr and worked from the gear it picked |
| 03:16.23 | ilovemrdoe | giving pets a stupid amount of AP |
| 03:16.27 | Dagmar | ilovemrdoe: afaik your'e righgt |
| 03:16.50 | Landrell | the one thing I'm still not liking is the simple fact that Focused Aim doesn't give me the hard numbers for the additional Hit Rating when I hit min cap. |
| 03:17.05 | Landrell | Just b/c I'm lazy |
| 03:17.36 | Dagmar | min cap? |
| 03:17.58 | Landrell | yeah, with focused aim 195 I believe it is. |
| 03:18.06 | Landrell | if trained 3/3 |
| 03:18.24 | Dagmar | OH! Okay, EJ has the exact number to a few decimal places |
| 03:18.33 | Landrell | Gotcha! |
| 03:18.33 | Dagmar | It doesn't really change |
| 03:18.42 | Landrell | Right. |
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| 03:18.57 | Dagmar | I leave that one alone just for the sake of simplicity |
| 03:18.59 | Landrell | I'm just picky though. I'd like to see those "true" numbers where they belong. |
| 03:19.08 | Dagmar | ...since it doesn't really transfer to the pet at all |
| 03:19.14 | Landrell | yup! |
| 03:19.38 | Dagmar | What'll drive you MAD is trying to find the relation between that and +atk when you're *near* the cap |
| 03:20.03 | Landrell | ... |
| 03:20.07 | Landrell | I won't go there. |
| 03:20.21 | Dagmar | You'll have one slot that you could put two diffedrent pieces of gear in... one that will put you 12 over the cap and one that leaves you 3 under it |
| 03:20.34 | Landrell | lol, you know me so well! :D |
| 03:21.02 | Dagmar | Yeah, mostly I beat the hell out of the dummy for about a half hour and go with whichever one gave the most consistent higher run |
| 03:21.29 | Dagmar | Attack power is definitely cheaper with a lot of gear tho |
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| 03:22.16 | Dagmar | ...so I'm figuring if I can figure out some vectors based on the effectiveness of specific stats relating to DPS output, I can hopefully simplify the theorycraft value |
| 03:22.36 | Dagmar | This assumes items are budgeted relatively consistently |
| 03:22.44 | Dagmar | _realtively_ |
| 03:22.58 | Dagmar | Well, spelled better |
| 03:23.02 | Landrell | ! Very interesting. Good luck with that though. that's alot more dedication than I could give in something like that. |
| 03:23.15 | Dagmar | I'm trying to save myself work actually |
| 03:23.30 | Landrell | ah makes sense.. |
| 03:23.48 | Dagmar | DUmmies are *tedious* when you have to beat on them for sooo incredibly long just to reduce the variance |
| 03:23.50 | Landrell | ...and don't ever try to type with chopsticks. it doesn't work so well |
| 03:24.49 | Dagmar | THat wowwiki page helps--I'd have not tried logarithms if it weren't mentioned there |
| 03:25.11 | Dagmar | I thought they were using a simpler curve but the numbers were disagreeing wiht me |
| 03:26.07 | Hirsute | Landrell: Especially if you've just used those chopsticks to eat with... |
| 03:26.16 | Landrell | lol |
| 03:26.17 | Landrell | yes |
| 03:26.37 | Thunder_Child | shhh....you are making me hungry for chineese |
| 03:27.08 | Landrell | mmm, foooooodd |
| 03:27.11 | Landrell | >:) |
| 03:27.25 | Dagmar | Specifically, using a vector (yes, an angular calculation) one should be able to come up with a number representing which way the wind blows with respect to the focus a particular spec is |
| 03:28.12 | Dagmar | ...since talents very much affect whether you want atk or crit or agi |
| 03:28.27 | Landrell | yeah, that's for sure. |
| 03:29.06 | Dagmar | I think I'm going to have to flat out ignore all the little added effects |
| 03:29.21 | Dagmar | They look like throw-ins to bring items closer to budget |
| 03:29.43 | Landrell | yeah, make it as simple as possible |
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| 03:31.27 | Dagmar | Fooie. The girl raiding in the back of the coffee house I'm at is on an RP-PvP server. SHe's prolly horde |
| 03:31.40 | Landrell | lol |
| 03:31.55 | Landrell | <--Allaince. I used to be Horde when the game came out. |
| 03:32.02 | Landrell | doh! |
| 03:32.05 | Landrell | Alliance* |
| 03:32.09 | Landrell | <--need to l2spl! |
| 03:32.14 | Dagmar | I don't really care which faction people are with, but horde people seem to care |
| 03:32.37 | Dagmar | Moreso on PvP servers |
| 03:32.40 | Landrell | For the most part, what I've seen is yeah, you're right |
| 03:33.11 | Dagmar | Some of my coworkers are on a PvP server and they bitch endlessly about petty antics Alliance people pull |
| 03:33.21 | Landrell | heh |
| 03:33.29 | Dagmar | ...but since I sit there and hear them talking on vent every other night, I know they do the exact same things |
| 03:34.15 | Landrell | On the server I'm currently on, there seem to be a lot more "mature" players on Horde side. |
| 03:34.26 | Landrell | But the tune always changes no matter where you're at. |
| 03:34.47 | Landrell | and I can't PvP worth a damn. so I stay on my carebear server. |
| 03:34.59 | Dagmar | Ugh, that *word* |
| 03:35.06 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 carebear servers |
| 03:35.21 | Dagmar | I can PvP fine, I just don't go in for the PvP-centric gearing |
| 03:35.24 | Landrell | Wait I take that back. I do have one toon on Manoroth. |
| 03:35.54 | Landrell | But I rarely play her so she just sits in Org on top of the bank. |
| 03:35.55 | Dagmar | Way too often I've watched people who have resilience coming out their ears just stand there and take the full-DPS blast |
| 03:36.07 | Landrell | >.< |
| 03:36.12 | Dagmar | I'm not interested in collecting a third set of gear |
| 03:36.27 | Dagmar | ...alhtough a year ago I wasn't interested in a second set, but then it was useless to bother |
| 03:36.55 | Dagmar | Now if I can ignore HR because I'm out questing I know I can stack the heck out of attack and maul entire villages |
| 03:37.08 | Landrell | I just still hate the fact that I have at least three sets of shoulders, two legs and two different ranged weapons I have to constantly switch from just to get what I want stat wise/ap or crit or hit... |
| 03:38.03 | Dagmar | RatingBuster should be able to do the calculations Rawr is doing instead of just throwing numbers at you |
| 03:38.15 | NightHawkTheSane | that would bloat ratingbuster |
| 03:38.19 | Landrell | Oh yeah, I use that mod all the time. |
| 03:38.21 | Jamash | <3 RatingsBuster |
| 03:38.21 | Landrell | I love it. |
| 03:38.22 | Cidan | but fix Rawr. |
| 03:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | its not a theorycraft addon |
| 03:38.26 | Cidan | SO WHAT DO YOU DO? |
| 03:38.27 | Cidan | WHAT DO |
| 03:38.29 | Cidan | YOU DO? |
| 03:38.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: make rawr not suck. thats what |
| 03:38.45 | Dagmar | It's not *that* much math when you're talking about two specific pieces of gear |
| 03:38.46 | Cidan | Oh |
| 03:38.47 | Cidan | Okay. |
| 03:38.58 | NightHawkTheSane | rawr desperately needs to be a robust web app, not some .net piece of shit |
| 03:38.58 | ecstasia | o noes i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle |
| 03:39.04 | Dagmar | AGREED. |
| 03:39.06 | Jamash | rawr doesn't suck, it just... uh... kind of sucks |
| 03:39.07 | ecstasia | o noes i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle |
| 03:39.24 | Dagmar | If it were in perl I wouldn't be spending all this time trying to figure out the weird scoping C# does |
| 03:39.31 | NightHawkTheSane | some parts of rawr are neat. but there's a lot of suck to it :( |
| 03:39.50 | Landrell | I've heard others swear by rawr.. |
| 03:39.58 | Jamash | it's pretty awesome, when it works |
| 03:39.59 | Landrell | Just not sure about it myself. |
| 03:40.08 | Dagmar | As it stands I've just foudn multiple ways to have VC#EE laugh at me for trying to simply make the information from petcalculations available to other scopes |
| 03:40.24 | Jamash | gawd, scoping |
| 03:40.29 | Jamash | scoping is such a pain |
| 03:40.29 | Landrell | lol Dag. |
| 03:40.32 | Dagmar | ...because someone decided to make that function privately scoped to begin with. Sigh |
| 03:40.46 | Dagmar | THey should have seen that coming as a problem |
| 03:41.02 | Jamash | the most important piece of C++ you will ever learn: |
| 03:41.08 | Jamash | #define private public |
| 03:41.20 | Dagmar | which does? |
| 03:41.36 | Jamash | makes every private member function and variable a public one :D |
| 03:41.48 | Landrell | O.o |
| 03:41.50 | Dagmar | Heavy handed but it might work |
| 03:42.30 | Jamash | I like the philosophy of programming where if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces |
| 03:42.34 | Kagashin | okay new error for addon, attempt to cal global 'CombatTracker_ReportDPS' (a nill value) |
| 03:42.59 | Dagmar | 'At least in perl when you need to grab at something else's variable it comes down to whether or not that curently exists anymore |
| 03:43.33 | Dagmar | Either it passed completely out of scope and was destroyed when execution left that scope or you can get at it |
| 03:43.34 | Thunder_Child | i really wish you couldnt cast movement altering effects on people w/o asking |
| 03:43.48 | Jamash | aww, but it's fun |
| 03:44.05 | Jamash | It makes me sad that I can't levitate people who aren't in my group/raid |
| 03:44.07 | Dagmar | Hey at least you don't have people chucking baby spice at you for no better reason than you're a dwarf |
| 03:44.20 | Thunder_Child | the spice girl? |
| 03:44.34 | Dagmar | No the spice you get from cooking dailies that makes people tiny |
| 03:44.36 | Jamash | baby spice is a reward from dalaran cooking quests that makes people smaller |
| 03:44.44 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 03:44.47 | Jamash | it's awesome |
| 03:44.53 | Jamash | pity it only lasts ~20 sec |
| 03:45.04 | Dagmar | Less than that when I've got a moment free to clik it away |
| 03:45.12 | Jamash | party pooper |
| 03:45.22 | Jamash | I like running around as a tiny xmas gnome |
| 03:45.28 | Jamash | with a tiny xmas gnome pet |
| 03:45.33 | Dagmar | You wanna irritate a dwarf? Find something that makes them too big to fit through a doorway |
| 03:46.08 | Dagmar | About half the doorways in the game I can run through mounted |
| 03:46.26 | Dagmar | The ones where I just get stuck bug the heck out of me |
| 03:46.51 | Jamash | I just got a mammoth (on test) and man it can't fit through any doors |
| 03:47.18 | Dagmar | I'm working on elf faction because their tigers ride lower |
| 03:48.05 | Jamash | gonna get your mount lowered, eh? put in some underlighting, add spinnaz, juice up the hydraulics |
| 03:48.25 | Jamash | get a bitchin' sound system |
| 03:48.38 | Dagmar | If that were an option I would |
| 03:48.47 | Dagmar | THe chopper at least goes through all doors |
| 03:49.00 | Jamash | the gnomish robochicken should have spinners |
| 03:49.32 | Dagmar | They should get rid of that idiotic eyes of the beast glyph and replace it with a chopper powerslide glyph |
| 03:49.41 | Jamash | my only regret playing horde is that I can't get a robochicken |
| 03:50.36 | kd3 | oh wow. we're allowed to fly in to wintergrasp now on taxis? |
| 03:50.53 | Jamash | yeah? |
| 03:50.54 | Dagmar | I thought we always were |
| 03:51.05 | kd3 | had figured it was an exit-only fp |
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| 03:51.36 | Dagmar | I usually just fly in and make sure I'm going to land somewhere useful |
| 03:51.45 | kd3 | same |
| 03:51.50 | Jamash | I usually fly in by accident and get trapped on a roof :-/ |
| 03:51.57 | kd3 | I'm pretty good at landing on top of the keep somewhere |
| 03:52.23 | Dagmar | ...so long as the restricted flight area dismount never omits the parachute on me again |
| 03:52.41 | Dagmar | I've cratered my way into Dalaran twice now |
| 03:52.42 | Jamash | yeah that always sucks |
| 03:53.44 | Jamash | it's raining dwarves, hallelujah, it's raining dwarves |
| 03:53.52 | Dagmar | Too right |
| 03:54.03 | Dagmar | Or at least let us do falling damage when we land on someone |
| 03:54.15 | Dagmar | You could do that in EQ until they noticed we were doing it |
| 03:54.38 | Dagmar | Irksome, but still utterly hilarious to get taken out by a falling wood elf |
| 03:54.50 | Jamash | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasplatkaboom |
| 03:54.54 | Dagmar | I miss night. |
| 03:55.18 | Jamash | they should have replaced the unholy talent that lets you turn into a ghoul with one that lets you explode when you die |
| 03:55.31 | Dagmar | It was epic win to make a race that had very poor nightvision start in an elevated tree city with a shortage of guardrails |
| 03:55.31 | Jamash | since that's all anyone ever did with it anyway |
| 03:55.52 | Dagmar | You can explode now |
| 03:56.11 | Dagmar | My DK is getting his loot one way or another sometimes |
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| 03:56.40 | Dagmar | Diseases still ticking? Check. Everyone gathered around close? Check. *clik*BOOM* |
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| 04:06.34 | Jamash | hmm, nearly time to upload a new beta version of learning aid |
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| 04:09.17 | Cairenn | sorry for the spam |
| 04:09.37 | Kraps | best shield GO! http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=42508;40701;43085 |
| 04:11.15 | Kraps | anything? |
| 04:11.30 | Dagmar | Depends on your talents |
| 04:11.33 | Dagmar | at a guess |
| 04:11.38 | Thunder_Child | yes, most people dont care aobut shields |
| 04:11.58 | Kraps | because most people arent tanks? |
| 04:12.34 | Dagmar | THey're all close enough to each other which one you use should proabbly come down to which stats you want more of |
| 04:13.39 | Kraps | [Titansteel Shield Wall] for most avoidance? |
| 04:14.10 | Dagmar | If you've got a talent that increses stat contribution, that would have more to do with which of the three to use than anything else I think |
| 04:14.26 | Dagmar | Like when hunters take the talent that lets 'em get atk from int |
| 04:14.49 | Dagmar | I think I remembver some armor contribution talents |
| 04:15.04 | Dagmar | ...not sure about def contribution talents |
| 04:16.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: they're basically the same thing, really. if you don't need the extra def on the crafted shield to be crit capped, the +hit on the others is probably better |
| 04:16.56 | NightHawkTheSane | on the other hand, if you're hit capped without a shield, the titansteel shield wall is probably bette |
| 04:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | r |
| 04:17.06 | Dagmar | If he'd said "/discuss" we could respond more appropriately. ;) |
| 04:17.23 | Kraps | :( |
| 04:18.11 | NightHawkTheSane | really, what Dagmar said basically holds. whatever you want/need more of :P |
| 04:18.12 | Kraps | i keep hit cap is 8% ya? |
| 04:18.14 | Dagmar | I wasn't kidding about talents being more important than the stats when you're looking at nearly equal items, man |
| 04:18.21 | Dagmar | Yes, it's 8% |
| 04:18.39 | Kraps | <---3.90 ftl |
| 04:18.50 | Dagmar | ugh |
| 04:18.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: eh, for tanks there's not many talents that affect defensive stats, so |
| 04:19.14 | Dagmar | Are you looking to do DPS or are you looking to survive a beating? |
| 04:19.17 | NightHawkTheSane | at best its usually some multiplication of stamina |
| 04:19.44 | Dagmar | Getting all excited about gear you don't have on you isn't wholly useful |
| 04:19.54 | Dagmar | er in your inventory that is |
| 04:20.19 | Kraps | i have titan and the cot, and i can buy the badge one |
| 04:20.29 | Kraps | so THERE! |
| 04:20.33 | Kraps | :p |
| 04:20.39 | Jamash | whatchoo talkin' bout, window shopping is the basis for wow's existance |
| 04:20.53 | Kraps | ^ |
| 04:21.20 | Dagmar | Yeah but whether or not item X is better than item Y isn't something that's going to affect your output as much as the fact that you have item X and item Z both in your pockets |
| 04:21.46 | Jamash | yeah but you generally want to know what your next upgrade target is |
| 04:21.55 | Dagmar | ...cuz until you have item Y, it's contribution is exactly zero |
| 04:22.07 | Jamash | so deciding between two items you don't have makes sense, if you want to prioritize your time |
| 04:22.11 | Dagmar | I just whack mobs until loot drops and worry about it then |
| 04:22.21 | Jamash | that's one way to do it |
| 04:22.23 | Dagmar | ...especially with all the freakin' changes |
| 04:22.56 | Kraps | k, using cot one, i'll get def on shield and chest |
| 04:23.18 | Jamash | I should be testing my addon |
| 04:23.21 | Jamash | but I'm too sleepy |
| 04:23.36 | Jamash | maybe I'll just upload it and let other people test it |
| 04:23.54 | Kraps | besides, the cot one looks totally badass |
| 04:24.10 | Dagmar | Now *there's* a good reason to pick one over hte others when they're that close |
| 04:24.18 | Dagmar | My DK still looks like a circus clown |
| 04:24.34 | Dagmar | Freakin' powder blue hat |
| 04:24.38 | Jamash | so does my warlock |
| 04:25.07 | Jamash | those hellfire peninsula caster pants? the green ones with the purple snakes on them? |
| 04:25.15 | Dagmar | I remmeber those |
| 04:25.28 | Jamash | so ugly |
| 04:26.01 | Dagmar | Combine them with a red hat, an orange belt, and some blue shoulderpads and you're ready to juggle cats with your donation hat out |
| 04:26.21 | Kraps | used to have a pretty good helm from zang that was bright blue and had horns /shudder |
| 04:26.49 | Dagmar | I'm just glad to be rid of the crazy dragon hat |
| 04:27.12 | Jamash | I have a purple hat, purple and gold shoulders, a gold belt and the horrible purple snake pants |
| 04:27.15 | Dagmar | Hunter gear for me is slowly transitioning from looking like rusty chainmail to simply being "pointy" |
| 04:27.43 | Kraps | having said that, what do you think about the way gear in wrath looks? |
| 04:27.53 | Dagmar | I think it's WAY steep at the upper end |
| 04:28.00 | Jamash | they could really stand to strike a happy medium between BC's "LOOK COLORS" and WotLK's "everything is brown!" |
| 04:28.13 | Dagmar | Increases are pretty marginal until you get near the top 15 in slot range |
| 04:28.30 | Dagmar | ...at which point it goes by leaps and bounds |
| 04:29.05 | Jamash | I love upgrading from a blue to an epic which is a reskin of the blue >.> |
| 04:29.23 | Dagmar | I do miss my bear-head shoulders |
| 04:29.27 | Dagmar | Those were nifty |
| 04:29.32 | Jamash | YES |
| 04:29.34 | Jamash | I have those |
| 04:29.49 | Dagmar | No luck finding a gun that fires rabid bears to go with them |
| 04:30.01 | Dagmar | THey would clearly be the best DPS possible. :) |
| 04:30.09 | Jamash | I want a shark gun |
| 04:30.15 | Dagmar | OOoh that would work |
| 04:30.17 | Jamash | like in that one game |
| 04:30.32 | Dagmar | LAND SHARK! |
| 04:30.57 | Jamash | http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/xbox/armedanddangerous/1114b/arm_screen002.jpg |
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| 04:31.11 | Dagmar | Probably the only game i"ve seen where that much firepower didn't immediately result in an umbrella of death effect |
| 04:32.08 | Thunder_Child | lol "Good at any AMC thetre nationwide excluding canadian theaters" didnt know canada was nation wide..... |
| 04:32.23 | Dagmar | It's not formal yet. |
| 04:32.49 | Dagmar | THey must have gone to the Canadian As A Second Language Institute |
| 04:33.40 | Jamash | well, it would exclude canadian theaters in the united states |
| 04:37.24 | Jamash | note to self: "SPELL" and "spell" are different |
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| 04:44.39 | Jamash | it turns out I was mixing use of BOOKTYPE_SPELL (which evaluates to "spell") and "SPELL" |
| 04:49.12 | |Jelly| | Ding 80 on mah DK! :) |
| 04:49.18 | Thunder_Child | gratz |Jelly| |
| 04:49.26 | |Jelly| | Thanks! :) |
| 04:49.30 | Thunder_Child | first? |
| 04:49.46 | |Jelly| | second 80 |
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| 04:58.34 | Hirsute | Okay... I've got a table mytab = {key1 = "1", key2 = "2", key3 = "3", key4 = "4", key5 = "5"}. How might I go about removing all but the two entries with the greatest values? |
| 04:59.27 | Hirsute | I thought about trying table.sort(), but that only seems to work for indexed tables, rather than keyed tables. At least, the only examples I'm finding are for indexed tables. |
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| 05:01.01 | Syzgyn | We had someone die on 4-fucking-Horseman |
| 05:01.04 | Syzgyn | of all the bosses |
| 05:01.19 | Cidan | How do you even die on Four Horseman? |
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| 05:01.23 | Cidan | That entire encounter is a joke |
| 05:02.46 | Syzgyn | He apparently was switching in the back |
| 05:03.01 | Syzgyn | and ate 2 spells from each of the back 2 |
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| 05:03.40 | Syzgyn | It was the last wing too :( |
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| 05:09.28 | Tem | sigh |
| 05:09.33 | Tem | I hate sarth 3d 10 man |
| 05:11.39 | Jamash | OK, this is... odd... I just got hearthed on the PTR without me using my hearthstone |
| 05:11.46 | Cidan | Magic! |
| 05:11.50 | Cidan | IT'S MAGIC |
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| 05:16.07 | Seerah1 | he says he's glad it's not just him, though :P |
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| 05:22.21 | NeoTron | Jamash: people have been known to do that even on live |
| 05:27.25 | Jamash | I was testing my addon in org, hitting a training dummy and bam, I'm in dalaran |
| 05:28.49 | Shirik | sounds like your addon works very well |
| 05:28.56 | Jamash | buh |
| 05:29.04 | Jamash | I sure hope it's not my addon |
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| 06:49.33 | Thunder_Child | ~burp |
| 06:50.29 | purl | ACTION burps loudly |
| 06:50.29 | Thunder_Child | screw you purl |
| 06:50.29 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 06:50.40 | purl | ~pong |
| 06:51.38 | Thunder_Child | ~~~~~~~ |
| 06:51.49 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat thunder_child. |
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| 06:56.19 | AbsolutRayne | Hola |
| 06:56.42 | Jamash | greets |
| 06:57.29 | Cairenn | hi |
| 06:58.17 | Thunder_Child | ~hello AbsolutRayne |
| 06:58.25 | purl | ACTION stands up and shouts "HELLO AbsolutRayne!" |
| 06:58.33 | AbsolutRayne | Hows everyone tonight? |
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| 07:00.36 | Cairenn | tired |
| 07:00.38 | Cairenn | night night |
| 07:00.46 | Thunder_Child | lies Cairenn|afk |
| 07:00.49 | Thunder_Child | LIES! |
| 07:03.30 | Tekkub | ow |
| 07:03.34 | Tekkub | fucking beard zits |
| 07:06.58 | Jamash | oh snap, wintergrasp now has a timer on the world map |
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| 07:12.59 | Jamash | argh, I'm being called into a kara run |
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| 07:26.08 | slithytove2006 | is this room alive? |
| 07:26.48 | |Jelly| | Define "alive" |
| 07:27.01 | slithytove2006 | "well you play wow, so i spose u dont have a life.. =P |
| 07:27.08 | slithytove2006 | "jk... theres at least one person here tho |
| 07:29.11 | Spellbinder | it is fairly active yes |
| 07:31.09 | slithytove2006 | cool =] |
| 07:31.43 | slithytove2006 | i randomly decided to try #wow and #worldofwarcraft. the former noted this one, itself being rather dead |
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| 07:34.55 | |Jelly| | Is Titansteel Bonecrusher good for DW DK? |
| 07:35.07 | Tem | DW DK is dead |
| 07:35.16 | Tem | well, it's soon to be, anyway |
| 07:35.22 | |Jelly| | Which doesn't answer the question. |
| 07:35.47 | Tem | it's not bad |
| 07:35.50 | Tem | it could be worse |
| 07:36.14 | Tem | DEATH KNIGHT |
| 07:36.18 | Tem | ur doing it wrong |
| 07:36.37 | Tem | Get a two hander or go play a shaman |
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| 07:42.25 | NightHawkTheSane | .. i am playing a shaman.:( |
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| 07:55.33 | Thunder_Child | sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:55.39 | Thunder_Child | entertain me |
| 07:55.47 | Thunder_Child | at least untill i get into VH |
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| 08:00.35 | Spellbinder | Thunder_Child http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NkLUh_zMP8 |
| 08:03.28 | Thunder_Child | Spellbinder: i did say entertain me |
| 08:03.35 | Thunder_Child | not put me to sleep |
| 08:04.23 | Spellbinder | o well, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtTb2DZwR4c |
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| 08:26.22 | Thunder_Child | my do priests only get a temp aggro dump? |
| 08:26.28 | Thunder_Child | mages get a perma one |
| 08:26.59 | NightHawkTheSane | because blizzard hates priests |
| 08:27.03 | NightHawkTheSane | also, you touch yourself at night |
| 08:28.09 | NightHawkTheSane | quite a few classes dont get permanent agro dumps, though |
| 08:28.12 | Thunder_Child | why? and not always at night |
| 08:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, butin the world of internet memes, no one seems to care how much you touch yourself during the day |
| 08:29.29 | Shirik | So, guild decides we want to go for the "Spore Loser" achievement |
| 08:29.39 | Shirik | Here is a snippet from the first 5 seconds of the fight |
| 08:29.57 | haste | amazing! |
| 08:30.00 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/109586 |
| 08:30.02 | Shirik | FIRST SPORE |
| 08:30.03 | Shirik | WTF |
| 08:30.24 | Shirik | and why the hell would you whirlwind |
| 08:30.25 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane, that's not true... if you are female and doing it public or on video, they DO care: GIEV PLX! |
| 08:30.30 | Thunder_Child | dont make me look up that achev |
| 08:30.44 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Kill Loatheb without killing any spores |
| 08:31.32 | Thunder_Child | heh, no aoe for joo |
| 08:31.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: your guild fails |
| 08:31.42 | Shirik | MORONS |
| 08:31.53 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, thoes are aoe's |
| 08:31.59 | NightHawkTheSane | granted, we fucked up our first attempt at that, because we forgot ret aura... |
| 08:32.00 | Thunder_Child | and prolly part of the normal rotation |
| 08:32.08 | Shirik | I have never killed a spore |
| 08:32.09 | Shirik | ever |
| 08:32.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: they are, but they should have been smarter than that |
| 08:32.31 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, habbit is hard to break |
| 08:33.24 | Wobin | The DK is probably not used to heart strike being a cleave =P |
| 08:33.27 | Thunder_Child | so shadow priests are not longer the "support" class but our dps hasent been upped to compensate for that |
| 08:33.28 | Wobin | fail =P |
| 08:34.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: and the lock is just what.. bad? |
| 08:34.47 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: Yes =P |
| 08:34.49 | Corrodias | warlocks are some horrible mix of mage and hunter |
| 08:34.58 | Wobin | or on aggro for some reason |
| 08:35.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: well, it said cleave, so likely the lock didn't turn off cleave autocast.. so.. bad :P |
| 08:36.27 | Wobin | Corrodias: It'll have to be another name, "Munter" is my name for melee hunters =P |
| 08:36.39 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5165113/amazons-new-video-game-trade+in-program-offers-you-more-money-than-gamestops |
| 08:37.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: shouldn't that be "retarded"? |
| 08:37.16 | Wobin | It doesn't quite have the same ring to it |
| 08:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | but its far more accurate :) |
| 08:37.25 | Wobin | as calling someone over Vent "Oi, you bloody munter!" |
| 08:37.30 | Shirik | heh |
| 08:37.37 | Shirik | one of my guild members just had a very bad experience |
| 08:37.42 | Shirik | was trying to look for gear for a 19 twink |
| 08:37.43 | Wobin | I reckon it sounds much more insulting =P |
| 08:37.53 | Shirik | so she decided to google "19 twink" |
| 08:37.57 | Wobin | oh boy |
| 08:38.07 | Wobin | Do not taunt happy fun internets that way =P |
| 08:38.11 | Thunder_Child | ~dict munter |
| 08:38.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: hahahahah |
| 08:38.29 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, munter? |
| 08:38.36 | Wobin | melee hunter |
| 08:39.02 | Thunder_Child | ya, thats an insult...only because hunters are not really supposed to be mele |
| 08:39.20 | Wobin | er, yes. |
| 08:39.26 | Wobin | I'm insulting melee hunters |
| 08:39.33 | Wobin | not anyone else by calling them a melee hunter |
| 08:40.00 | Thunder_Child | 2.2K for a simple polymorph black cat....bah |
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| 08:43.05 | Spellbinder | simple? then it should be no problem to go get it yourself yes? i think it takes some work, at least that what i believe, i never tried though |
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| 08:43.43 | Spellbinder | as i see it, either one pay what is asked or one go get it self |
| 08:44.07 | Spellbinder | turtle i saw went for 3k |
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| 08:51.55 | Tekkub | why is it that the only "fun" spell mods out there are poly? |
| 08:56.30 | Arrowmaster | i thought black cat was vendor bought |
| 08:58.37 | Tem | Shirik, ping |
| 08:58.43 | Shirik | Tem: pong |
| 08:58.55 | Tem | scanf("%d") |
| 08:58.59 | Tem | user inputs .1 |
| 08:59.07 | Tem | scanf gets stuck on the . |
| 08:59.09 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:59.12 | Tem | how do I flush it? |
| 08:59.17 | Shirik | C++ or C |
| 08:59.26 | Tem | sort of a subset of C++ |
| 08:59.26 | Tekkub | push the handle |
| 08:59.31 | Shirik | do you have cin? |
| 08:59.32 | Tekkub | bearballs314 |
| 08:59.35 | Tekkub | gah! |
| 08:59.37 | Tem | no cin |
| 08:59.55 | Tem | no streams, no polymorphism |
| 09:00.09 | Tekkub | can't go without poly |
| 09:00.10 | Shirik | wtf |
| 09:00.12 | Tekkub | need some CC |
| 09:00.19 | Shirik | why would you do object oriented programming with no polymorphism |
| 09:00.25 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 09:00.28 | Tem | I don't have a choice |
| 09:00.36 | Tem | no templates either |
| 09:00.40 | Shirik | that's undersatndable |
| 09:00.44 | Shirik | C++'s templates are kinda shitty |
| 09:00.47 | Shirik | Anyway, to answer your question |
| 09:00.48 | Tem | agreed |
| 09:00.52 | Shirik | I tend not to use scanf anyway |
| 09:01.04 | Tem | that's not an answer :( |
| 09:01.13 | Shirik | Is getch() not an option? |
| 09:01.21 | Shirik | to skip the one char |
| 09:01.26 | Tem | I'd rather not, tbh |
| 09:01.36 | Tem | after an invalid input, I just want to flush whatever is there |
| 09:01.46 | Shirik | what about scanf %s |
| 09:02.19 | Tem | no, bad Shirik |
| 09:02.35 | Shirik | You're the one telling me "no I don't wanna" to all the good options |
| 09:02.47 | Tekkub | I swear I'm gonna fucking kick Desktop Window Manager's ass |
| 09:03.03 | Fisker- | hey Shirik |
| 09:03.03 | Tekkub | you know when you right click and pick something from the menu and it fades the menu out? |
| 09:03.14 | Tekkub | it's not hiding the highligh line after the fade |
| 09:03.22 | Shirik | I will destroy you Fisker- |
| 09:03.24 | Tekkub | I have to kill dwm to make it go away |
| 09:03.28 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:04.25 | Tekkub | and my token just tried to give me pi, but got two digits wrong |
| 09:04.53 | Shirik | so a friend just pointed out to me |
| 09:04.57 | Shirik | those Blizzard polar bears |
| 09:05.45 | Tekkub | are wearing jock straps? |
| 09:05.45 | Shirik | no |
| 09:05.45 | Shirik | they have hearts on their feet |
| 09:05.45 | Spellbinder | :O |
| 09:05.53 | Tekkub | they're wearing jock straps too :P |
| 09:06.01 | Tekkub | the elastic leg bands.... |
| 09:06.03 | Tekkub | yea.... |
| 09:06.51 | Tekkub | and they've got the same footpads the other bears do |
| 09:12.16 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:13.22 | Shirik | why would you do that |
| 09:13.41 | Shirik | actually there are valid reaosns to do that |
| 09:13.42 | Shirik | but still |
| 09:13.57 | Fisker- | a really valid one is to annoy you |
| 09:16.21 | ccox | use feof(), char == EOF is not reliable on some OSes |
| 09:23.42 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, correct |
| 09:23.51 | Thunder_Child | Spellbinder, that is getting myself |
| 09:24.08 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 09:24.19 | Thunder_Child | "Arrowmaster: i thought black cat was vendor bought" |
| 09:27.34 | Spellbinder | <Thunder_Child> Spellbinder, that is getting myself <--- sorry i missed something |
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| 09:27.54 | Spellbinder | you are getting the spell yourself? |
| 09:27.57 | Thunder_Child | "Spellbinder: as i see it, either one pay what is asked or one go get it self" |
| 09:27.58 | Thunder_Child | YES |
| 09:28.03 | Spellbinder | aah k |
| 09:28.06 | Thunder_Child | fail capslock |
| 09:28.23 | Thunder_Child | i mean 2.2K to buy the book is rather expensive |
| 09:28.35 | Thunder_Child | if it was a rare drop this i can understand |
| 09:28.40 | Spellbinder | yeah if you can buy it from npc |
| 09:28.43 | Thunder_Child | but from a vendor....bah |
| 09:29.07 | Thunder_Child | even the "dalaron" flavored int spells were ~500g |
| 09:29.26 | Spellbinder | i sell white kitten for 200-300g |
| 09:29.27 | Thunder_Child | dalaran* |
| 09:29.56 | Spellbinder | easy to get hold of, but not every one is like me and watch out for lil timmy |
| 09:30.03 | Spellbinder | so they pay |
| 09:30.08 | Spellbinder | which is ok for me |
| 09:30.43 | Spellbinder | i'm not forcing any one to buy :) |
| 09:30.56 | Thunder_Child | the non combat pet? |
| 09:31.03 | Spellbinder | yeah |
| 09:31.20 | Thunder_Child | heh, i thought there was a poly white cat |
| 09:31.25 | Thunder_Child | i was confused |
| 09:32.23 | Thunder_Child | huh, poly serpent...didnt see that one either |
| 09:35.32 | Tekkub | wtb poly-whelp |
| 09:35.52 | Tekkub | poly-stormgiant? |
| 09:35.54 | Spellbinder | whats this poly you are talking about? |
| 09:36.25 | Tekkub | poly-illidan |
| 09:36.44 | Tekkub | poly-felreaver would probably trump all |
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| 09:37.18 | Tekkub | "Polying condom... oh fuck a reaver! run!" |
| 09:37.59 | Shirik | huh? |
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| 09:38.26 | Tekkub | fire a few more synapses there Shirik, I know you can get it |
| 09:38.33 | Shirik | no |
| 09:38.36 | Shirik | too busy losing AB |
| 09:38.51 | Tekkub | all hope is lost, give up and pay attention to me |
| 09:40.33 | Spellbinder | This is a sturdy poly whelp box that has amote molded into floor for puppy safety, http://www.groomers.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=233000+AQU |
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| 09:41.15 | Tekkub | whelper helper.... |
| 09:41.25 | Tekkub | methinks it's time to go to bed or start drinking |
| 09:41.37 | Spellbinder | what is a poly pet?? |
| 09:41.58 | Tekkub | a parrot |
| 09:42.06 | Tekkub | no what that's a polly pet |
| 09:42.13 | Tekkub | yea, bedtime |
| 09:42.18 | Spellbinder | hahaha |
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| 09:46.56 | Thunder_Child | Spellbinder, poly is short for polymorph |
| 09:47.15 | Jamash | poly want a cracker? |
| 09:47.27 | Thunder_Child | not any more |
| 09:47.38 | Jamash | do penguins eat crackers? |
| 09:48.07 | Thunder_Child | oh yes, the munch on the native cracker bush of the cold |
| 09:50.52 | Thunder_Child | s/the/they/ |
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| 09:57.00 | enq | hi, I'm less than an amateur at coding, but I haven't found an addon able to do what I want... so rather than writei t myself I thought I'd modify auctioneer a bit, anyone got time to help me? |
| 09:57.15 | Spellbinder | <Thunder_Child> Spellbinder, poly is short for polymorph <--- uhm yeah but that suggest's every pet in that case so why call it poly-whelp? |
| 09:57.36 | Thunder_Child | Spellbinder, tekkcub was just messing around |
| 09:57.53 | Spellbinder | ok then i get it |
| 09:57.56 | Thunder_Child | enq, have you tried #norgana and asked if they can add it as an option? |
| 09:58.12 | enq | no I haven't, first time on this network =) |
| 09:58.18 | enq | I'll try thanks |
| 09:58.24 | Thunder_Child | #norgana is auctioneers channel |
| 09:58.29 | enq | uh that channel is absolutely empty |
| 09:58.44 | Thunder_Child | i wonder if i spelled it wrong |
| 09:58.44 | Spellbinder | i told him go to freenode this channel was the cloosest i got |
| 09:58.54 | Caellian | isn't it Norganna, 2n |
| 09:59.02 | Thunder_Child | ah, that then |
| 09:59.03 | enq | yeah that's it |
| 09:59.46 | Spellbinder | but thats not his original question :) |
| 10:00.04 | Spellbinder | oh it was |
| 10:00.06 | Spellbinder | sorry |
| 10:01.22 | krka | it's over, you know |
| 10:01.56 | Spellbinder | no it isn't, and i haven't heard the pleading yet |
| 10:02.05 | Spellbinder | sentence 17 april |
| 10:02.28 | Spellbinder | pleading was 3 march but i missed that so im listen through that day today if it is ok |
| 10:04.01 | Thunder_Child | batrick, ping |
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| 10:13.36 | Thunder_Child | this just screams 16yo girl "[02:12] [S] <43:Aveeria>: omg thats so cute" |
| 10:40.53 | Shirik | omg Thunder_Child thats so cute |
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| 10:42.46 | Thunder_Child | thanks for proving my point Shirik |
| 10:44.49 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, what are '?' in a parse? |
| 10:45.04 | Thunder_Child | chat msg parse |
| 10:46.13 | Thunder_Child | !api ParseChannel |
| 10:46.13 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'ParseChannel'. |
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| 10:47.34 | Thunder_Child | ~pil |
| 10:47.35 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 11:14.57 | Jamash | I wonder if I uploaded a beta version of my addon that did nothing, would I get any bug reports. |
| 11:16.04 | Jamash | oh well, I suppose I'm just as bad at reporting bugs in addons I use as my users are |
| 11:16.08 | nevcairiel | are you sure people use it? :D |
| 11:16.10 | Tem | oh fuck me |
| 11:16.12 | Tem | it's 5 am |
| 11:16.16 | nevcairiel | ~fuck Tem |
| 11:16.28 | Tem | :( |
| 11:16.28 | nevcairiel | guess purl doesnt like you |
| 11:16.30 | Tem | well, this will be a short nap |
| 11:16.52 | haste | maybe it's you purl doesn't like nevcairiel ! |
| 11:17.11 | Jamash | I think people use it, but maybe they're downloading it for posterity and not installing it |
| 11:17.42 | nevcairiel | maybe its not bugged? :) |
| 11:17.50 | Jamash | if only |
| 11:18.14 | Jamash | I found like four bugs in it myself |
| 11:18.29 | Jamash | of course, I'm doing silly things with it that probably shouldn't be done |
| 11:18.39 | haste | people might use it without realizing it's bugs! |
| 11:18.43 | Jamash | could be |
| 11:18.53 | haste | nevcairiel found like three bugs in oUF :p |
| 11:18.56 | Thunder_Child | i'm to lazy to report bugs, i usually go find a similar addon that works |
| 11:19.17 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: I'd say you're a bad person but I do that too :P |
| 11:19.23 | nevcairiel | haste: but its working teh awesome now! |
| 11:19.29 | haste | yes! |
| 11:19.36 | haste | just two issues left on my list before a new release! |
| 11:19.49 | nevcairiel | When i find a bug in an addon i like, i usually try to fix it myself |
| 11:19.50 | Thunder_Child | how is that bad Jamash? |
| 11:19.52 | nevcairiel | unless its mighty complex |
| 11:19.57 | haste | same |
| 11:20.05 | Jamash | how can people fix things if they don't get bug reports? |
| 11:20.10 | haste | or I pester the author on IRC :D |
| 11:20.15 | Thunder_Child | not my problem |
| 11:20.19 | Jamash | haste: now that's productive |
| 11:20.56 | haste | or I'll try to trick other people into doing the work for me |
| 11:21.03 | Thunder_Child | i guess thats why some authors use an alternate (sp?) name here |
| 11:21.03 | batbot | Thunder_Child, alternate is correct. |
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| 11:21.37 | laeg | is anyone having trouble connecting to the eu realms? |
| 11:21.52 | Thunder_Child | batrick you whore, wth are you? |
| 11:22.07 | laeg | it's taking about 5 minutes to retrieve the character list and when trying to log in one of the characters it stalls when t he progress bar completes before disconnecting |
| 11:22.59 | Jamash | I'd be thrilled if someone came on IRC to pester me about my addon |
| 11:23.06 | Jamash | it'd prove it's being used |
| 11:23.39 | spode- | no problems here laeg |
| 11:23.54 | Jamash | have you tried rebooting the internet? |
| 11:26.13 | Thunder_Child | weee, timmy spawned |
| 11:26.27 | Jamash | timmy the cruel? |
| 11:26.42 | Thunder_Child | timmy the white cat seller |
| 11:26.47 | Jamash | o |
| 11:26.56 | Thunder_Child | s/cat/kitten/ |
| 11:28.05 | Thunder_Child | i got so bored waiting for timmy i decided to learn lua |
| 11:28.28 | Jamash | yay! |
| 11:28.48 | Aelobin | could probably loearn c++ whilst waiting for the time-lost protodake <_> |
| 11:28.57 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 11:29.02 | haste | or D! |
| 11:29.07 | Jamash | learning c++ makes you dumber |
| 11:29.11 | Aelobin | xD |
| 11:29.27 | zenzio | you don't seem to like C++ much Jamash |
| 11:29.31 | Jamash | I read that the C++ template compiler is turing complete |
| 11:29.56 | Jamash | someone crafted a source file that produces an error message with the first N primes |
| 11:32.40 | Jamash | zenzio: not much at all |
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| 11:35.19 | Thunder_Child | there is nothing that everyone loves |
| 11:35.19 | Jamash | except pie |
| 11:35.19 | Aelobin | cake > pie |
| 11:35.22 | Thunder_Child | i agree with Aelobin |
| 11:35.27 | Jamash | what about a pie... made of cake? |
| 11:35.59 | Thunder_Child | it's a style and ingreadents (sp?) |
| 11:35.59 | batbot | Thunder_Child, nothing found. |
| 11:36.08 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child and batbot |
| 11:36.09 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Thunder_Child and batbot. I hate you because you fail. |
| 11:36.14 | Jamash | ingredients |
| 11:36.37 | Spellbinder | hate is highly overated |
| 11:38.18 | Jamash | speaking of hate, is it spelled haterade or hatorade? |
| 11:38.54 | Jamash | I mentioned it in a discussion of portmanteau words in my linguistic anthropology class, but I don't know how to spell it |
| 11:39.20 | Thunder_Child | thats not a word afaik |
| 11:39.38 | Jamash | googlefight says haterade |
| 11:40.02 | Aelobin | gah i hate big words |
| 11:41.00 | Jamash | sesquipedalian |
| 11:41.11 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 11:41.39 | Thunder_Child | thats as bad as abreviations |
| 11:41.59 | Jamash | logorrhoea |
| 11:44.56 | Jamash | Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch |
| 11:45.21 | Jamash | right, that's it, sleepy time is now |
| 11:46.39 | Shirik | Indeed |
| 11:46.52 | Jamash | 'night folks, derive safely |
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| 11:47.55 | Shirik | I leave you with a beautiful cello solo to sleep to |
| 11:47.56 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWq0cw0oTMI |
| 11:49.09 | TC-Away | "anal with jennifer lopez would be like basketball with michael jordan... or bible study with jesus" |
| 11:49.55 | Lukian | you'd feel insignificant? :p |
| 11:53.44 | Thunder_Child | "when I finally have kids, I'm going to constantly tell them "i fucked your mom"" |
| 11:54.53 | selckin | or you'll be in a mental institution |
| 11:58.03 | laeg | spode-: thanks |
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| 11:59.03 | krka | Thunder_Child: what's wrong with a little subtlely, like "that's what your mom said last night" |
| 12:02.13 | Thunder_Child | krka, subtlely is for losers |
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| 12:30.25 | Thunder_Child | "linux exploits are like IF THE MOON IS IN FRONT OF VENUS AND YOU ARE LEFT HANDED AND SOMEONE ALREADY HAS LOCAL ACCESS AND YOU HAVE YAEWS (YET ANOTHER EMACS WEB SERVER) INSTALLED IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS TO BECOME ROOT' |
| 12:31.19 | krka | true dat |
| 12:40.50 | foxlit|mac | "Cannot insecurely modify restricted table" << grr |
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| 12:41.32 | foxlit|mac | That message should be replaced with "You're never going to find who caused this" |
| 12:42.15 | mikma | foxlit|mac: /target foxlit; /point |
| 12:42.26 | mikma | reason found. huzzah! \o/ |
| 12:43.16 | foxlit|mac | Problem is that for someone causing errors, I'm not getting any myself :( |
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| 12:58.57 | Aelobin | Thunder_Child: lol |
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| 13:40.01 | Lopeppeppy | Happy damn Friday to everyone, woooooot! |
| 13:43.54 | sacarasc | Not only any Friday, the Friday Watchmen is released in theatres! |
| 13:45.00 | zenzio | and half of my workmates went to see it, during work hours |
| 13:45.27 | sacarasc | First showing is 1630(GMT) here, so I'm all excited and stuff... |
| 13:46.12 | Wobin | =\ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzFpg271sm8 |
| 13:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | I cannot, cannot find anyone to go see it with me. *sigh* |
| 13:46.51 | Lopeppeppy | I may go alone, just to see if I can pick up a date while I'm there! :) |
| 13:47.17 | zenzio | you should come over here ;-o |
| 13:47.36 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, thanks. I'll buy a ticket with my change jar and be right over! |
| 13:48.11 | zenzio | it'd have to be before July though, since I'll be away most of July |
| 13:49.43 | Lopeppeppy | Which is excellent awesome. |
| 13:49.52 | mikma | wobin: what a crap! link better, like moo moo mooooo |
| 13:50.53 | Wobin | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kwECkqm3VM |
| 13:51.45 | mikma | wobin: check out your messages, nsfw ;) |
| 13:52.26 | Wobin | ... |
| 13:52.30 | Wobin | it sounds like the cow is underwater |
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| 13:52.59 | mikma | funny stuff tho? |
| 13:54.15 | Wobin | not really |
| 13:54.26 | mikma | boo! boo! .. i mean, MOO! MOO! |
| 13:54.29 | Wobin | my link was funnier |
| 13:54.36 | Wobin | and it wasn't even meant to be funny |
| 13:54.40 | Wobin | that's how much funnier it was |
| 13:55.11 | mikma | actually, you should have atleast linked the kung pow -cow scene :I |
| 13:55.25 | Wobin | those were just ridiculous =P |
| 13:55.38 | mikma | same category, shoot to the moon |
| 13:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | moo moo, I'm a cow? |
| 13:55.41 | mikma | MOOn! |
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| 14:15.42 | mikma | wobin: naming Mage -portal/teleport addon "Goatse" would be kinda stupid would it? |
| 14:19.51 | zenzio | I don't know, mages can be real assholes about portals |
| 14:20.17 | mikma | well that's good then |
| 14:20.21 | mikma | Blackhole or Goatse :D |
| 14:20.32 | mikma | i think the latter will get declined if i submit it in wowi |
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| 14:21.07 | mikma | do i need to add a "random portal" button too haha |
| 14:22.10 | Dark_Elf | ah heck name it porter! |
| 14:24.16 | Thunder_Child | or wormhole...since einstein-rosen bridge just doesnt seem to work as well |
| 14:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Tesseract |
| 14:24.34 | mikma | wormhole is good too |
| 14:24.49 | zenzio | compression space transport |
| 14:24.50 | mikma | but which one is better? http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_021700.jpg or http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_162246.jpg |
| 14:25.38 | Lopeppeppy | Number 2. But it would be nice if the window wasn't all that huge, if only 2 are displayed. Grows as you add spells. |
| 14:25.39 | Thunder_Child | mikma, is it resizeable? |
| 14:25.52 | mikma | thunder_child: nope |
| 14:25.59 | Thunder_Child | then i would say the first one |
| 14:26.05 | Thunder_Child | unless you follow Lopeppeppy's idea |
| 14:26.05 | mikma | haven't figured out a god way of making it resizeable |
| 14:26.27 | mikma | yeah it would be hot but i need to figure out how to do it properly |
| 14:26.55 | Thunder_Child | if nothing else you could at least have the second one centered |
| 14:27.02 | mikma | like "for i=1,7 do if _G["Portalbutton"..i]:IsVisible() then count = count +1 end end" |
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| 14:28.07 | mikma | now let's see. i'll try coding a function that checks how many buttons are shown |
| 14:28.26 | Lopeppeppy | A meeeeelion! |
| 14:29.08 | Industrial | A quaaaarion! |
| 14:29.16 | Industrial | :E |
| 14:31.03 | mikma | might need to move the text out of the frame :( |
| 14:31.12 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, in order to resize it. That does make sense. |
| 14:31.55 | mikma | yeah. if there's only the runes showing the text will go over the edges |
| 14:32.20 | Thunder_Child | or center + not being able to go smaller than the text |
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| 14:35.57 | mikma | well, not it "kinda" works |
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| 14:36.06 | mikma | not completely happy about it yet tho |
| 14:36.28 | Lopeppeppy | QuestClicks is one that expands as you get more stuff.... you could peek there to see how it's done for that one. |
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| 14:37.31 | Thunder_Child | pornos have the same effect...you could check out the coding for them |
| 14:38.08 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_030609_163619.jpg |
| 14:41.22 | Lopeppeppy | I will not nitpick. I like it better, mikma. |
| 14:42.31 | Thunder_Child | CENTER! |
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| 14:53.31 | mikma | gah :I |
| 14:53.52 | mikma | this is impossible to test because i haven't got any mage at lvl34/39 :( |
| 14:55.20 | sacarasc | Nor have I, sorry. |
| 14:55.31 | Thunder_Child | at that level or higher? |
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| 14:56.39 | kneeki | Morning all |
| 14:56.47 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, kneeki |
| 14:57.03 | mikma | actually lvl35/40 should be fine, just as long as you have one/two teleportals learned |
| 14:57.09 | Lopeppeppy | My mages are all below 20, mikma, I'm sorry. |
| 14:57.30 | Thunder_Child | i have a 73 |
| 14:57.46 | mikma | thunder_child: same, but that won't do cause you propably already have Teleport: Dalaran |
| 14:58.01 | Thunder_Child | yes :( |
| 14:58.23 | kneeki | "Geek used to be a 4-letter word; now it's a 6-figure one." - Chris Pirillo |
| 14:58.25 | kneeki | ^ awesome |
| 14:59.57 | sacarasc | I have no mages with portals, just 1 with teleport. |
| 15:01.29 | mikma | i still have no idea what's the "now" word then |
| 15:01.49 | mikma | oh, figure |
| 15:01.52 | mikma | l2read |
| 15:02.31 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 15:02.37 | Thunder_Child | ~swat mikma |
| 15:03.06 | purl | ACTION swats mikma with a mikma swatter |
| 15:04.19 | Thunder_Child | What do Michael Jackson and a Big Mac have in common? |
| 15:04.21 | Thunder_Child | Both involve 30-year-old meat in between two nine-year-old buns. |
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| 15:04.58 | Lopeppeppy | TC. |
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| 15:05.36 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, was that an answer or did you want something? |
| 15:05.55 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I want something I'll never ever have. It's nice to want, it gives a nice rounded feeling to the day, I find. |
| 15:06.35 | Thunder_Child | uh...peace and prosperity to all human kind? |
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| 15:07.24 | krka | oh a riddle. is it icecream? |
| 15:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | I had the ice cream last night, krka, it was all melty. |
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| 15:08.10 | krka | icecream always gives me a rounded feeling |
| 15:08.34 | Thunder_Child | is that a bad pun there krka? |
| 15:08.57 | Lopeppeppy | krka would never. |
| 15:08.59 | mikma | how appropriate, michael jackson gives icecream to kids! |
| 15:12.05 | krka | a pun? i dont even see what you mean |
| 15:13.08 | Thunder_Child | sarcasm now huh.... |
| 15:13.55 | krka | nope |
| 15:14.08 | krka | please explain what the pun was, as i am not a native english speaker |
| 15:14.18 | Thunder_Child | ah, ok |
| 15:14.41 | Thunder_Child | ice cream can gain you weight, that makes you "rounded" |
| 15:15.17 | krka | that's what i meant, but i didn't know that qualified as a pun |
| 15:15.48 | Thunder_Child | because Lopeppeppy did not use rounded in that way |
| 15:16.11 | krka | A pun, or paronomasia, is a form of word play that deliberately exploits ambiguity between similar-sounding words for humorous or rhetorical effect.[1] Such ambiguity may arise from the intentional misuse of homophonical, homographical, homonymic, polysemic, metonymic, or metaphorical language. |
| 15:16.33 | krka | perhaps you are right |
| 15:16.33 | krka | i thought it only covered similar-sounding words |
| 15:16.33 | Thunder_Child | nope |
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| 15:16.56 | krka | i suppose my pun was of the homograph form |
| 15:17.10 | krka | or even homonym |
| 15:19.20 | krka | so basically all linguistical jokes are puns |
| 15:20.23 | Lopeppeppy | They can be simplifed down into "pun", yes krka. |
| 15:21.23 | krka | yay, i learned something new today |
| 15:21.23 | Lopeppeppy | *hugs* |
| 15:21.37 | krka | aww cute http://www.expressen.se/husdjur/1.1489415/mjuk-surrogatmamma |
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| 15:22.32 | Lopeppeppy | Very. |
| 15:23.46 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for octopui! |
| 15:24.09 | krka | what? |
| 15:24.14 | Lopeppeppy | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090306/ap_on_fe_st/odd_octopus_in_a_box |
| 15:25.48 | krka | is that an octopus in your lunchbox or are you just happy to see me? |
| 15:25.59 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 15:26.14 | AckisWork | if you're happy to see me and it looks like an octopus... well that scares the hell out ofm e |
| 15:26.29 | Lopeppeppy | Wimp |
| 15:26.37 | AckisWork | totally |
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| 15:29.30 | kneeki | Are respec costs 1c on the PTR yet? |
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| 15:34.34 | AckisWork | anyone on esES client kicking around? |
| 15:36.49 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 746 |
| 15:36.50 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=746 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=746 |
| 15:44.19 | alestane | http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php *snark* |
| 15:46.07 | Lopeppeppy | Love her outfits. :) |
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| 15:48.23 | mikma | lopeppeppy / thunder_child: huzzah! it works :D |
| 15:48.44 | mikma | and i might go after the Wormhole name |
| 15:49.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, mikma!!! |
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| 15:53.18 | mikma | spells learned (portal and teleport) appeared in the list nicely :D |
| 15:54.07 | mikma | also managed to do a "smart" resizer -> for i=1,7 do if _G["Teleport"..i]:IsVisible() then MageAddon.count = i * 41 end end -> frame:SetWidth(70 + MageAddon.count) |
| 15:54.10 | mikma | hih :) |
| 15:54.35 | Lopeppeppy | You rule! |
| 15:55.11 | mikma | anything to help fellow mages heh |
| 15:55.26 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I'm not a mage yet, but someday!!!! |
| 15:55.45 | mikma | remember my Wormhole/Goatse when you are one ;) |
| 15:55.55 | mikma | (name yet to be decided haha) |
| 15:56.00 | Lopeppeppy | Tesseract! |
| 15:56.25 | mikma | now that's a cool object |
| 15:56.34 | mikma | cube in cube! |
| 15:56.55 | mikma | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/8-cell-simple.gif |
| 15:56.57 | mikma | cool! |
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| 15:57.59 | mikma | Tru seven hours kekeke |
| 15:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | Very pretty |
| 15:58.04 | Gnarfoz | anyone speaking russian or some other language from the far-eastern european area here? ^^ |
| 15:58.23 | mikma | gnarfoz: is finnish enough lol? |
| 15:58.52 | Gnarfoz | nah, that's the one exception that'll not be helping because of its finno-ugric roots ^^ |
| 15:59.22 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 16:00.47 | Gnarfoz | oh, I'm also perpetrating the crime of 'asking to ask'... looking for a translation for "nekenciu melo" (probably missing correct accent marks, and might even be a romanization of something kyrillic - I have no clue) |
| 16:02.13 | AbsolutRayne | O_O |
| 16:02.46 | Gnarfoz | s/kyr/cyr/ |
| 16:03.59 | Gnarfoz | Lithuanian |
| 16:05.00 | Lopeppeppy | Lithuanian. |
| 16:05.15 | alestane | Anyone know a truetype font that includes the old ANSI graphics characters? |
| 16:05.24 | Lopeppeppy | Nekenciu melo |
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| 16:08.09 | Lopeppeppy | hate melo? *frownies* |
| 16:08.41 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: hate melo? ^^ |
| 16:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | "I hate melo". I keep seeing melo, so either that's slang and not something that translates, or it's an actual thing. |
| 16:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | Compare http://linksmas.net/as-nekenciu-t419-135.html and http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=lt&u=http://linksmas.net/as-nekenciu-t419-135.html&ei=h0qxSYvdPKDGMpnt3f0E&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DNeken%25C4%258Diu%2Bmelo%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D10 |
| 16:10.53 | AbsolutRayne | <3 Peppy |
| 16:11.03 | Gnarfoz | mhh ok :D |
| 16:11.30 | Gnarfoz | I seem to be too zombified to come up with the idea to google the words separately -.- |
| 16:11.51 | Gnarfoz | < 3h sleep per day since sunday is bad :( |
| 16:12.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep more. |
| 16:12.11 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen Melo too, so it could be a thing or person. |
| 16:13.06 | Gnarfoz | seems like a basket ball player? |
| 16:13.09 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 16:13.09 | zenzelezz | maybe they as a people just like to speak of melodramatic things but can't be bothered to type it out |
| 16:13.10 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 16:13.25 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: since they're not english, that's kind of a long shot :D |
| 16:13.49 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe it's like saying "I hate ARod." American culture knows who/what ARod is. Other cultures, not so easily translated. |
| 16:13.51 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: you clearly don't speak their language, so can you rule it out? |
| 16:14.06 | Gnarfoz | wtf is ARod :D |
| 16:14.21 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: I can't, but you're doing it wrong, too :P |
| 16:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | See, Gnarfoz? Alex Rodriguez, baseball player thing |
| 16:14.48 | Gnarfoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neken%C4%8Diu_reklamos < :D |
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| 16:22.51 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: apparently it means "I hate lies" |
| 16:23.06 | Lopeppeppy | melo = lies? Good to know. |
| 16:23.32 | Gnarfoz | that's what she said, at least |
| 16:23.48 | Gnarfoz | if it's really a she, lol |
| 16:23.53 | zenzelezz | maybe she lied |
| 16:24.32 | Gnarfoz | I see what you did there |
| 16:24.34 | Lopeppeppy | They all do |
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| 16:51.51 | mikma | anyone has created addon that has a simple minimap-button in it? (no, not FuBarPlugin) |
| 16:52.15 | Lopeppeppy | Autobar has one. Dominos has one. |
| 16:52.27 | kneeki | what is the difference between 'function foo.bar()' and 'function foo:bar()' ? |
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| 16:53.11 | mikma | dear lord! |
| 16:53.21 | mikma | the minimap-button code is as long as my addon |
| 16:53.21 | zenzelezz | lua> function foo.bar() {} |
| 16:53.21 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
| 16:53.25 | mikma | http://tullamods.googlecode.com/svn/Dominos/trunk/Dominos/minimap.lua |
| 16:53.31 | Stanzilla | use LDB + LibDBIcon :P |
| 16:53.35 | zenzelezz | oops |
| 16:54.12 | zenzelezz | lua> function foo.bar() end |
| 16:54.13 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 16:54.15 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, I wouldn't know simple lua if it bit me. I just know those two have buttons |
| 16:54.20 | zenzelezz | oh bleh |
| 16:54.22 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowace.com/projects/libdbicon-1-0/ < |
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| 16:54.51 | mikma | lopeppeppy: yeah they do, the code to create the minimap-button (and all the moving etc etc) makes the minimapbutton code longer than my mage-portal addon :D |
| 16:55.11 | Lopeppeppy | Shove in Stanzilla's library, see what that offers instead? |
| 16:55.33 | zenzelezz | anyway, if I recall correctly (which I obviously may not), using : is syntactic sugar. foo:bar() would be the same as foo.bar(self). Don't think you can define functions with colon in the name |
| 16:55.51 | zenzelezz | or rather, foo.bar(foo) |
| 16:56.10 | kneeki | ah ok |
| 16:56.10 | zenzelezz | I need to stop trying to explain things I can't remember much of |
| 16:56.12 | kneeki | thanks =) |
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| 17:05.22 | Legorol|alt | kneeki: zenzelezz almost got the explanation right. |
| 17:05.39 | Legorol|alt | 1. If you are *calling* a function, foo:bar() is identical to foo.bar(foo) |
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| 17:05.50 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:06.56 | Legorol|alt | 2. If you are *defining* a function, "function foo:bar() ... end" is identical to "function foo.bar(self) ... end" |
| 17:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
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| 17:13.48 | Lunessa | No spoilers, but Watchmen is well worth the admission price and the near 3hr running time. |
| 17:16.03 | AbsolutRayne | Is there an addon that automatically spams someone your profession if you ask for it in Trade Chat? |
| 17:16.27 | Lunessa | yes, but I don't recall it's name. |
| 17:16.51 | AbsolutRayne | Bloody annoying >< |
| 17:17.40 | mikma | lunessa: uuuh! 3h <3 |
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| 17:18.28 | Lunessa | It's just shy of 3 hours. Going to the midnight release show means I am very sleepy today. |
| 17:19.02 | Lopeppeppy | 3 hours... very long for me to sit in a movie by myself. |
| 17:19.13 | AbsolutRayne | Watcnh |
| 17:19.15 | AbsolutRayne | er |
| 17:19.23 | AbsolutRayne | Watchmen is three hours long? leet |
| 17:20.46 | Lunessa | Not quite, like 2 hours 49 mins. Functionally the same for sitting in a theater. |
| 17:21.54 | AbsolutRayne | I just hope it doesnt tank |
| 17:22.25 | AbsolutRayne | Much like when I heard for the first time about the Ironman movie, I was like 'great, there goes my childhood.' |
| 17:23.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ironman turned out well, I think |
| 17:24.11 | Lunessa | I'll be frank, they had to alter some bits to make it all fit, and there is a bit of "modern parallel" in the end. But on the whole the story is the same. |
| 17:24.23 | mikma | lopeppeppy: ironman was too short for my taste |
| 17:24.33 | mikma | but, epic movie no matter what |
| 17:24.39 | mikma | RDJ did amazing job |
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| 17:26.50 | Lunessa | And once more, Alan Moore has taken his name off a project that wouldn't exist if he weren't absolutely-goddamned-brilliant. |
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| 17:29.26 | Gnarfoz | what's that |
| 17:30.23 | mikma | http://laggy.eu/clock2.png <- my friend owns :) he wrote us a clock |
| 17:30.54 | mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/clockday.png / http://mikma.reaktio.net/clocknight.png |
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| 17:31.00 | mikma | that's the OTHER option, ewwww. |
| 17:33.19 | Lopeppeppy | And what are you wishing to do with this clock? |
| 17:33.31 | Spellbinder | ahahaha http://twobluecrabs.com/images/1d08a22b90751baa22c354fe52b4ebe1.jpg |
| 17:33.47 | mikma | lopeppeppy: it'll be on the display of my Nokia N810 :) |
| 17:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, I like the flip clock best. |
| 17:34.48 | mikma | lopeppeppy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRMxSStlGxg |
| 17:34.59 | mikma | there's the flip clock in action |
| 17:35.30 | mikma | i'll rather pick the friend-clock instead of that Python-crap :D |
| 17:35.53 | Lopeppeppy | Then don't pick python crap |
| 17:36.31 | mikma | i won't have to soon \o/ |
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| 17:44.50 | Jamash | g'morning or nearest local equivalent |
| 17:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | It's always morning when you arrive, Jamash |
| 17:45.44 | Jamash | :D |
| 17:47.35 | Gnarfoz | ~ugt |
| 17:47.36 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:48.14 | Jamash | fascinating |
| 17:48.45 | Tem|work | I wonder what mipslinux is |
| 17:48.57 | Tem|work | it sounds like a linux implementation for the MIPS virtual machine |
| 17:49.02 | Tem|work | which is kind of funny |
| 17:49.17 | Tem|work | since the version of it I have runs on top of linux |
| 17:49.20 | Lopeppeppy | Tem, they'll cram Linux onto a cereal box. A dead badger. |
| 17:49.30 | Tem|work | oh scratch that, it runs on unix |
| 17:49.30 | Gnarfoz | http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Main_Page < |
| 17:49.55 | Tem|work | yep lol |
| 17:50.55 | Tem|work | wait wait what? |
| 17:51.15 | Tem|work | mips existed as a for real architechture back in the dark ages |
| 17:51.22 | Gnarfoz | lol, you didn't know? |
| 17:51.27 | Tem|work | negative |
| 17:51.32 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 17:52.02 | Tem|work | I've only ever heard of or seen it in a classroom setting |
| 17:52.16 | Tem|work | as a teaching tool for assembly programming |
| 17:52.21 | mikma | ~ugh |
| 17:52.22 | purl | rumour has it, ugh is peace pipe, white man |
| 17:52.29 | Gnarfoz | "Computer architecture courses in universities and technical schools often study the MIPS architecture." |
| 17:52.36 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:52.39 | Tem|work | yeah |
| 17:52.51 | Tem|work | I took one such course last semester |
| 17:53.28 | Tem|work | this semester in my OS class, we're editing a mostly-built OS written for the MIPS architechture |
| 17:54.18 | Jamash | neat |
| 17:55.01 | Tem|work | which has the added side effect of me being able to read the couple of functions written in assembly and udnerstand them |
| 17:55.29 | Tem|work | usually when I see asm embedded in C or C++ my eyes just glaze over |
| 17:55.36 | Tem|work | and I rely on comments |
| 17:55.51 | Tem|work | but here I'm like "hey I know this" |
| 17:57.20 | zenzelezz | let me guess |
| 17:57.26 | zenzelezz | __asm int 3 |
| 17:57.30 | p3lim | Hm, anyone good with math? |
| 17:57.47 | Jamash | depends on what kind of math |
| 17:57.56 | p3lim | Ive got a value, lets say its 500. I want the percent of it.. kinda |
| 17:58.05 | p3lim | I have set values for 0-100% |
| 17:58.12 | p3lim | (which is 0-1000) |
| 17:58.20 | Jamash | multiply by 100? |
| 17:58.27 | p3lim | not that easy |
| 17:58.43 | Tem|work | zenzelezz: no actually in this case it's a whole file |
| 17:58.44 | p3lim | say the value is 1500 the percent should be 150% |
| 17:58.47 | Lunessa | percent = per hundred. |
| 17:59.14 | durcyn | percent in relation to what |
| 17:59.20 | Tem|work | switching threads is a fiddly thing and you have to switch stacks and user spaces and stuff |
| 17:59.27 | Tem|work | so that has to be done in asm |
| 17:59.51 | Jamash | X% of a value is (X/100) * value |
| 18:00.07 | Lopeppeppy | Okay guys. We all have to chip in. "Colbert" is in the running to be the name of the new space station module! Serenity must triumph! http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/name_ISS/index.html |
| 18:00.08 | p3lim | yeah i know that, not stupid |
| 18:00.17 | Jamash | well, so...? |
| 18:00.23 | foxlit|mac | What, Serenity? |
| 18:00.24 | Tem|work | >1500/500 * 100 + "%" |
| 18:00.26 | Tem|work | lua >1500/500 * 100 + "%" |
| 18:00.30 | Tem|work | lua>1500/500 * 100 + "%" |
| 18:00.31 | lua_bot | Tem|work: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value |
| 18:00.38 | Lopeppeppy | Serenity. Far better than Vista! |
| 18:00.41 | Tem|work | god damn java messing with my brain |
| 18:00.42 | Jamash | .. is the concat op |
| 18:00.48 | p3lim | lua> 1500&500 * 100 |
| 18:00.49 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1500' |
| 18:00.55 | p3lim | lua> 1500/500 * 100 |
| 18:00.56 | lua_bot | p3lim: 300 |
| 18:01.03 | Tem|work | lua>1500/500 * 100 .. "% |
| 18:01.04 | lua_bot | Tem|work: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1500' |
| 18:01.04 | p3lim | hm |
| 18:01.13 | p3lim | :D |
| 18:01.15 | Tem|work | die in a fire |
| 18:01.27 | foxlit|mac | Clearly it's going to be called Xenu! |
| 18:01.28 | Tem|work | lua>tostring(1500/500 * 100) .. "% |
| 18:01.28 | lua_bot | Tem|work: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '..' |
| 18:01.33 | Tem|work | lua>tostring(1500/500 * 100) .. "%" |
| 18:01.34 | lua_bot | Tem|work: 300% |
| 18:01.43 | Tem|work | lua>1500/500 * 100 .. "%" |
| 18:01.44 | lua_bot | Tem|work: 300% |
| 18:03.08 | p3lim | lua> 1500/1000 |
| 18:03.09 | lua_bot | p3lim: 1.5 |
| 18:04.14 | Adys | Olison: Playing the "Let's see who bans the most people within a single thread" game yet? :P |
| 18:04.27 | Jamash | lua> function percent (a, b) return 100 * a / b end; percent(1500, 500) |
| 18:04.28 | lua_bot | Jamash: No output |
| 18:04.36 | Jamash | lua> function percent (a, b) return 100 * a / b end; print percent(1500, 500) |
| 18:04.37 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'percent' |
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| 18:04.47 | Jamash | meh |
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| 18:05.35 | Olison | Adys: no. |
| 18:05.59 | Adys | Olison: I banned 3 ppl there, one for each page I read |
| 18:06.01 | Olison | Adys: there have been some fuck-ups with bans recently, i.e. banning IPs and not supplying any information about bans |
| 18:06.27 | Adys | SMF screwing up again? |
| 18:06.31 | Olison | I'm trying to figure out who DID SUCH A TERRIBLE thing |
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| 18:06.37 | Jamash | lua> function percent (a, b) return 100 * a / b end; print(percent(1500, 500)) |
| 18:06.38 | lua_bot | Jamash: 300 |
| 18:06.38 | Olison | No, the admins |
| 18:06.43 | Jamash | yay |
| 18:07.02 | Jamash | perl's loose function call syntax tripped me up |
| 18:07.07 | Adys | I usually put my name in the field since Bibi` whined about it |
| 18:07.14 | Olison | yes okay |
| 18:07.15 | Adys | s/field/notes field/ |
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| 18:14.41 | Toadkiller | Anyone know what I have to do to make SET CameraDistanceMaxFactor "4" |
| 18:14.50 | Toadkiller | work? |
| 18:15.41 | Toadkiller | Modifying Config.wtf is no good it just gets obliterated on reload and totally ignored on load |
| 18:15.47 | ArrowmasterClass | yeah /console cameraDistanceMax 25 |
| 18:16.17 | Toadkiller | So what I have to write a mod to set it manually each time i log in? |
| 18:16.22 | ArrowmasterClass | no |
| 18:16.25 | ArrowmasterClass | you type what i said |
| 18:18.30 | Toadkiller | weird, why is 25 different from 4 or 5? |
| 18:18.40 | ArrowmasterClass | because you arent reading the command |
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| 18:20.05 | Toadkiller | Ah ok, the factor part was bogus. grumble about bad web instructions |
| 18:20.18 | ArrowmasterClass | no |
| 18:20.24 | ArrowmasterClass | they are different settings |
| 18:20.33 | durcyn | they're both valid cvars, it's just that Factor isn't saved |
| 18:20.42 | ArrowmasterClass | factor is saved |
| 18:20.50 | ArrowmasterClass | its just reset when you go over the limit |
| 18:21.08 | Toadkiller | right, so people posting to set factor are wasting my time... |
| 18:21.12 | ArrowmasterClass | yes |
| 18:21.52 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/CVar_cameraDistanceMaxFactor |
| 18:22.03 | Jamash | Range 0.0 - 3.4 |
| 18:22.11 | ArrowmasterClass | 3.4 is over the limit |
| 18:22.26 | Kirov | 3.4 is the limit |
| 18:22.26 | ArrowmasterClass | the range is 0.0 - 2.0 |
| 18:22.31 | ArrowmasterClass | no 3.4 is over |
| 18:22.38 | ArrowmasterClass | lua> 15 * 3.4 |
| 18:22.38 | lua_bot | ArrowmasterClass: 51 |
| 18:22.44 | ArrowmasterClass | lua> 25 * 2 |
| 18:22.44 | lua_bot | ArrowmasterClass: 50 |
| 18:23.11 | Kirov | Mine saved to 3.4 |
| 18:23.20 | Kirov | As long as you never go to the options menu |
| 18:23.22 | ArrowmasterClass | then you have server side syncing disabled |
| 18:23.38 | Kirov | Though, personally I use cameraDistanceMax 50 |
| 18:23.44 | Kirov | I do |
| 18:23.46 | Kirov | heh |
| 18:24.04 | kneeki | I hate XML in WoW... |
| 18:24.11 | ArrowmasterClass | kneeki: everybody does |
| 18:24.14 | Jamash | it takes quite a while to get used to |
| 18:24.19 | Kirov | Lego likes it. :P |
| 18:24.53 | Jamash | I'm ambivalent about it |
| 18:25.55 | Toadkiller | xml in wow only makes sense if there were to be an app for graphically manipulating it... |
| 18:26.18 | ArrowmasterClass | there is an app |
| 18:26.20 | ArrowmasterClass | it sucks |
| 18:26.28 | Toadkiller | precisely |
| 18:29.01 | Toadkiller | Thanks for help! |
| 18:29.32 | AbsolutRayne | I wonder if I could cause tons of errors if i used Pitbull 4 for Party Frames, and 3 for Raid Frames. :S |
| 18:29.44 | Jamash | gah |
| 18:30.17 | Lopeppeppy | AbsolutRayne! *poke* |
| 18:30.24 | AbsolutRayne | D: |
| 18:30.53 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Ahoyhoy |
| 18:30.53 | Lopeppeppy | Bad monkey. |
| 18:30.53 | AbsolutRayne | :< |
| 18:30.55 | AbsolutRayne | What did I do? |
| 18:31.40 | Lopeppeppy | Don't cross the streams, Ray! |
| 18:31.46 | AbsolutRayne | >< |
| 18:31.58 | AbsolutRayne | I love Pitbull4 :< just no Raid Frames yet! |
| 18:32.15 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Also, this is how Buffs / Debuffs will be working in the next version: http://hdimage.org/images/jot5zolotomzwdrmg9tk_ocrnhot022809092230.jpg |
| 18:32.30 | AbsolutRayne | In case I didnt show you |
| 18:33.13 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. *nod* |
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| 18:34.01 | Stanzilla | the pitbull castbar is damn annoying |
| 18:34.09 | Stanzilla | shows "failed" for every instant cast :( |
| 18:34.21 | AbsolutRayne | Just need to find where to put my Player Pet and Focus Frames now |
| 18:34.23 | AbsolutRayne | >_< |
| 18:35.25 | Lopeppeppy | Focus above ToT. Or swap them so focus is on the bottom. Pet... dunno |
| 18:36.19 | AbsolutRayne | I was thinking Either Sides of the Minimap, but then id need to reposition the DBM bars |
| 18:37.35 | Lopeppeppy | That's awful far away from your other unit frames, AbsolutRayne. |
| 18:37.49 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah, thats why im really against it |
| 18:38.17 | AbsolutRayne | I was also considering pushing the bottom action bars down, swapping the buffs / debuffs to below |
| 18:38.25 | AbsolutRayne | But then id have to move the party Frames |
| 18:41.12 | Lopeppeppy | That's right, your party is below the action bars. |
| 18:42.04 | Lopeppeppy | As a healer, I had to move it above my other frames, so I moved everything else downward. IIRC |
| 18:42.29 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Ill look into maybe trying it |
| 18:42.36 | AbsolutRayne | just shift everything down |
| 18:47.41 | alestane | I wish my herbs were endless. |
| 18:47.47 | Lunessa | Anyone know a free utility for converting WMA to WAV formats? |
| 18:47.57 | alestane | Lunessa: What platform? |
| 18:48.05 | Lunessa | WinBlows |
| 18:48.24 | alestane | I thin there's a Windows port of ffmpeg, not sure how up to date it is. |
| 18:48.38 | ArrowmasterClass | wmp probably can do it |
| 18:48.47 | alestane | It's a command-line tool but pretty good at transcoding all kinds of streams. |
| 18:48.58 | Lunessa | WMP can do it if I burn the file to disk and rip it again. |
| 18:49.16 | ArrowmasterClass | why do you want wav? |
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| 18:51.54 | Lunessa | Because PowerPoint is lame and will only embed .wav for audio. Therefore, if my end-user wants a distributable PPT with audio it must be in .wav format. |
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| 18:53.32 | Jamash | VLC will do it |
| 18:53.43 | alestane | http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ffmpeg |
| 18:53.51 | ArrowmasterClass | foobar2000 might |
| 18:53.56 | Lunessa | Yeah, reading tffmpeg stuff now. |
| 18:54.07 | ArrowmasterClass | it can convert lots of things but im not sure about wma |
| 18:54.54 | kneeki | In reference to buttons, what is NormalTexture used for? The contents of the button? |
| 18:56.11 | Jamash | what the button looks like when not being pressed, I believe |
| 18:58.53 | Toadkiller | Given a spellId you can use GetSpellInfo to get name etc. Is there a way to get from spell name to spellId? |
| 18:59.09 | Jamash | wowhead :P |
| 18:59.31 | Toadkiller | Ok so you are saying PT3 |
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| 19:00.28 | Jamash | PT3? |
| 19:00.48 | Toadkiller | PeriodicTable. It mines wowhead for ids |
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| 19:00.52 | Jamash | ah |
| 19:00.57 | Toadkiller | and categorizes them in sets |
| 19:04.19 | Jamash | if you have a spell link you can parse the spell ID out of it |
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| 19:06.13 | Pneumatus | Toadkiller: GetSpellInfo() will take a spell name |
| 19:06.51 | Pneumatus | although only for spells in your own spellbook |
| 19:06.53 | Pneumatus | not for other classes |
| 19:07.26 | ArrowmasterClass | using GetSpellInfo() with real names in an addon is just asking for trouble |
| 19:08.00 | Toadkiller | ^^ |
| 19:08.14 | Pneumatus | why would you have a spell name but not an ID in the first place though? |
| 19:08.39 | Toadkiller | Yeah I am just picking brains to make sure I didnt miss some new / undocumented api |
| 19:10.36 | Toadkiller | Well for instance I am writing the ui for Grid2 at the moment. In Grid you typed in the name of a buff/debuff. For defaults you can obviously use spellid and then api to get localized name etc. But if you use name then on a different class you may be sol etc. I am trying to do more better. |
| 19:10.58 | Lopeppeppy | I would try a more better Grid2. |
| 19:11.44 | Toadkiller | http://www.wowace.com/projects/grid2/ |
| 19:12.19 | Toadkiller | The core was written by Jerry and mostly works. The config is what I am adding atm |
| 19:12.43 | Lopeppeppy | Mostly works. Yeah... um.... :) |
| 19:13.26 | Toadkiller | There are just very minor issues, but its functional |
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| 19:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | I never was able to master regular Grid, so I'll wait for your config to be done, perhaps it will help me. |
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| 19:14.34 | Toadkiller | In terms of the config though its alpha and subject to sv reset because i couldnt be bothered to upgrade configs during the alpha stage |
| 19:15.16 | Lopeppeppy | I can wait. *nod* |
| 19:15.43 | Toadkiller | Well my goal is to have it config itself for your class/spec from 1 or 2 expertly designed choices and then you make minor apearance decisions and you are done. No more staring at some monstrosity. |
| 19:15.55 | Toadkiller | And thinking now wtf |
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| 19:17.31 | Kagashin_ | hey can anyone help me with an addon, working with "CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM"... mainly the ERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS part of it that says when guildies come online |
| 19:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | That could be... um... interesting as well, Toadkiller. I'd be interested in looking, but not sure how that would work. |
| 19:17.54 | AbsolutRayne | Toadkiller: If youre going to play with the configs, PLEASE allow an option for Class sorting that works properly, and the ability to make Grid work in one long row. please. |
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| 19:20.46 | Toadkiller | AbsolutRayne: sorting is subject to what blizz allows. If allowed, then there is no reason why it cannot be done. Same with one row, although thats gonna be pretty low on the todo list atm |
| 19:21.05 | Lunessa | Thanks for the help guys, I found a solution. |
| 19:21.15 | Toadkiller | Also, you know you can set up your own stuff for that in Grid already right? |
| 19:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | We helpded? |
| 19:21.39 | Toadkiller | ~ask |
| 19:21.40 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 19:21.53 | AbsolutRayne | Toadkiller: I can sort by class, yes, but it offers no spacing that works properly (IE |
| 19:22.02 | Lunessa | Yeah, I was able to find a freeware converter. However, .wav is huge so the user opted to go with making a CD package with tinier files. |
| 19:22.09 | AbsolutRayne | |Warriors| -- |Hunters| |
| 19:22.16 | Toadkiller | spaciong for 1 line? |
| 19:22.19 | AbsolutRayne | Its always right on top of each other |
| 19:22.33 | AbsolutRayne | Hang on I think I got an SS of what im trying to say |
| 19:22.36 | Lopeppeppy | My users all want huge 15 minute videos streamed in their sites now, can't figure out why we can't/won't do it. |
| 19:23.16 | Toadkiller | Like I said, that part may be due to what blizzard does. Is there a mod that does one row? |
| 19:23.29 | AbsolutRayne | Toadkiller: The old GridDynamicLayout used to |
| 19:23.46 | Toadkiller | Well if it still does then the code can get ported. |
| 19:24.24 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I get users yelling at me all the time over mailbox limits and file size limits in e-mail - because we won't let them e-mail their 100+ meg video files and store them on the exchange server for ever. |
| 19:24.30 | AbsolutRayne | The new one thats on WoWInterface doesnt even have the option |
| 19:24.32 | AbsolutRayne | :S |
| 19:26.01 | AbsolutRayne | It was really just an option to set number of max frames per Row / Col. You could set it to 1/40 and it would be one long row |
| 19:26.52 | Lunessa | I would hate a 25+ person long row or column for grid. |
| 19:27.24 | AbsolutRayne | I prefer it for tanking. and when sorted by class it helps (at least for me) for healing |
| 19:27.31 | Lunessa | The whole point was compactness. |
| 19:27.56 | foxlit|mac | Could still be compact :) |
| 19:28.10 | Lunessa | I never "got" the sort by class thing. I tend to sort by "group" - however, now that buffs are raid-wide, I might not care as much. |
| 19:28.46 | AbsolutRayne | <03-06-09 12:26>[Kosmosfreak] Psychic Horror (New Skill) - You terrify the target, causing them to tremble in horror for 3 sec and drop all weapons for 10 sec. (16% of base mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast, 1 min cooldown) |
| 19:28.48 | AbsolutRayne | WAT? |
| 19:29.04 | foxlit|mac | aka "get that rogue the fuck off me" |
| 19:32.11 | Stanzilla | best change in 3.1 :> |
| 19:32.24 | alestane | I guess it might make up for losing blackout. |
| 19:32.44 | Stanzilla | better than blackout |
| 19:32.47 | Stanzilla | it's not random |
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| 19:33.23 | foxlit|mac | Keep in mind, most self-respecting melee would have some sort of disarm duration reduction enchant |
| 19:33.57 | Toadkiller | sort is nice for getting the tanks mostly to one side so your mouse travels less between them |
| 19:33.58 | AbsolutRayne | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1257/788588461_007d1a2df1_b.jpg This always makes me smile |
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| 19:34.38 | foxlit|mac | meh, should find out who you heal more often and move THEM to one side. |
| 19:35.04 | Lopeppeppy | I love it for depression, AbsolutRayne. |
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| 19:57.08 | Tem|afk | jaxdahl, Dashkal, ping |
| 19:57.20 | Dashkal | Tem|afk: pong |
| 19:57.30 | Tem|afk | Dashkal, you still tank on your DK? |
| 19:57.39 | Dashkal | Nope |
| 19:57.43 | Tem|afk | damnit |
| 19:57.54 | Tem|afk | I have a crazy idea |
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| 19:58.22 | AbsolutRayne | Eeeeeeee getmynewbed today |
| 19:58.24 | AbsolutRayne | ^_^ |
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| 19:58.42 | Tem|afk | lua> print(.98*.96*.85*.85*.97) |
| 19:58.43 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 0.65933616 |
| 19:58.59 | Tem|afk | lua> print(.98*.96*.85*.85*.97)*50000 |
| 19:59.00 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 0.65933616, luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 19:59.07 | Tem|afk | lua> print(.98*.96*.85*.85*.97*50000) |
| 19:59.07 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 32966.808 |
| 19:59.28 | Tem|afk | lua> print(42000*.75*1.15-.98*.96*.85*.85*.97*50000) |
| 19:59.28 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 3258.192 |
| 19:59.46 | Tem|afk | lua> print(42000*.75*1.15)---.98*.96*.85*.85*.97*50000) |
| 19:59.46 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 36225 |
| 19:59.53 | Tem|afk | hum |
| 20:00.43 | Tem|afk | 3200 hp is not a nice place to be when sarth melees for 8k |
| 20:01.00 | Tem|afk | I'm considering the merits of a blood tank build for Sarth3d |
| 20:01.49 | Tem|afk | will of the necropolis would trigger on any breath I care about |
| 20:02.11 | Tem|afk | lua> print(40000*.75*1.15)---.98*.96*.85*.85*.97*50000) |
| 20:02.12 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 34500 |
| 20:02.32 | Tem|afk | lua> print(40000*.75*1.15-.98*.96*.85*.85*.97*50000) |
| 20:02.32 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 1533.192 |
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| 20:04.11 | Thunder_Child | <insert obligitory greeting soasnottocauseconfusion here> Shirik! |
| 20:04.19 | Shirik | rawr |
| 20:04.23 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
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| 20:05.57 | Tem|afk | lua> 40000*1.15*.75*.1*2*1.1*1.3 |
| 20:05.58 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 9867 |
| 20:06.04 | Tem|afk | hmm 10k self heal |
| 20:06.25 | Tem|afk | yeah, this might work |
| 20:07.28 | Lopeppeppy | If you say so. I'm skeptical |
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| 20:08.06 | Tem|afk | I lose bone shield, 5% passive magic mitigation and anti-magic zone |
| 20:08.18 | Tem|afk | but AMZ is only used once per pull because of the long cooldown |
| 20:08.39 | Tem|afk | bone shield alone isn't enough to save me through a super breath |
| 20:09.03 | Tem|afk | and I gain will of the necropolis which reduces any hit that would put me below 35% by 15% |
| 20:09.33 | Tem|afk | and vampiric blood increases my health by 15% and healing by 30% |
| 20:10.04 | Tem|afk | so on super breaths, I have icebound fortitude, AntiMagic Shell and Vamp Blood |
| 20:10.38 | Tem|afk | the VB breath is potentially sketchy if I'm not topped before it |
| 20:10.59 | Tem|afk | I can help with that using my 10k self heal |
| 20:11.15 | Tem|afk | and usually, my pally gets a holy light on me less than a second after a breath hits |
| 20:12.08 | Tem|afk | this feels more sustainable than my unholy spec which runs out of ways to live without outside help after 3 super breaths |
| 20:12.35 | Tem|afk | anyway, off to turn in my project |
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| 20:47.08 | foxlit|mac | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw17845.png << awesome |
| 20:47.31 | Dashkal | Taken from mmo-champ, trust at own risk. Kisirani was overruled? "Brew of the Year is no longer required for the Brewmaster meta-achievement." |
| 20:47.47 | foxlit|mac | Yet I wonder if you can do that using Model widgets rather than the bundling a heckload of images |
| 20:49.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: if thats the case, i will be a very sad panda |
| 20:50.02 | foxlit|mac | But you're a hawk :/ |
| 20:50.07 | foxlit|mac | That doesn't work, see? |
| 20:50.20 | NightHawkTheSane | fine, i'll be a sad panda-hawk. |
| 20:50.30 | Dashkal | (DK) I'll be a pretty happy one. Means I won't have to wait until nearly 2011 for the world event meta |
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| 20:51.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: it was one of the few achievements that had 0% luck to it. it was just a matter of time, patience, and dedication |
| 20:52.22 | Dashkal | It required you to check your mail once a month for a year... |
| 20:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yes? |
| 20:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say it was difficult :P |
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| 20:53.20 | Dashkal | Still, my reason for wanting it off of the meta stands. I didn't want to wait until Q3 2010 to get the drake |
| 20:53.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i understand that, but *shrug* I really have no problem with that being an added cost to being a DK |
| 20:54.09 | NightHawkTheSane | its no different than starting a new non-dk character when the wotlk was released |
| 20:54.13 | Dashkal | My position is that the meta should be completable in a full year |
| 20:54.16 | NightHawkTheSane | so why should DKs be special? |
| 20:54.17 | Dashkal | not two |
| 20:54.26 | NightHawkTheSane | it -is- completable in a full year |
| 20:54.27 | Syzgyn | Disarm now disarm the enemy's main hand and ranged weapons. ahahaha |
| 20:54.37 | Dashkal | If, and ONLY if, you start immediately before brewfest |
| 20:54.43 | Syzgyn | I'm so gonna run around disarming hunters if that goes through |
| 20:54.57 | Dashkal | if you start immediately after, it's two full years |
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| 20:56.35 | NeoTron | Regardless, it's changing so deal. ;-) |
| 20:56.47 | NeoTron | I got my 310% drake already so wha'ts the big deal exactly? |
| 20:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont really care, i just think it's a silly thing to change |
| 20:57.15 | Dashkal | NeoTron: It's a line in a patch on mmo-champion atm, I'd hardly call that confirmed |
| 20:57.24 | Bibi` | WHAT? |
| 20:57.45 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 20:57.50 | Dashkal | Bibi`: Given how many times we've been told that PTR != Confirmed, how is that in any way a slight on your news portal? |
| 20:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Bibi`: he's totally calling you a hack, who posts random unconfirmed shit :P |
| 20:58.02 | foxlit|mac | NightHawkTheSane: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2436578937_33385b967c_o.jpg |
| 20:58.10 | durcyn | He's french, you can't trust a word he says. |
| 20:58.22 | Bibi` | NightHawkTheSane: totally. |
| 20:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit|mac: hahaha that's awesome |
| 20:58.45 | Bibi` | and why am I looking at king panda with wings? |
| 20:59.30 | Lunessa | Because NightHawkTheSane doesn't want to be a sad panda. |
| 20:59.32 | Syzgyn | Bibi`: [15:50] <NightHawkTheSane> fine, i'll be a sad panda-hawk. |
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| 21:02.52 | AckisWork | Dashkal: so what you're saying is mmo is a hack who posts unconfirmed shit eh? :P |
| 21:03.36 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis... you know that's not what he's saying. |
| 21:03.37 | Dashkal | AckisWork: *deadpan* yes, that's totally what I meant *wipes the sarcasm off his chin* |
| 21:04.22 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: I R AckisWork not Ackis!!! :P (we're different, Ackis is less annoying) |
| 21:05.01 | NightHawkTheSane | no.. not really.. :P |
| 21:05.42 | AckisWork | :( |
| 21:05.52 | AckisWork | I just said that because I don't really talk on irc at home anymore |
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| 21:09.19 | Hjalte | Meh, this would make me really confused: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12640-MAXPartyWaypoints.html (look at screenshot) |
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| 21:12.41 | Thunder_Child | "Trouble is www.bash.org is like porn - you can waste hours." |
| 21:12.42 | Thunder_Child | "There isn't even the finality of an orgasm to tell you when to stop." |
| 21:13.55 | Lunessa | Hjalte: I think my head would explode with all the arrows twitching around. |
| 21:14.22 | Thunder_Child | I'm a "Businessman" i work for myself -- I do not sit in my parents basement and drink mountain dew all day while beating off to Princess Leah during the Jabba the Hutt scenes -- so I really don't relate to most "linux geeks" |
| 21:14.23 | Thunder_Child | #72206 +(417)- [X] |
| 21:14.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'd stand still and make them come find me. |
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| 21:14.37 | Thunder_Child | fail cp |
| 21:14.52 | Thunder_Child | s/cp/c\/p/ |
| 21:14.55 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 21:15.02 | Lunessa | ~Fail Thunder_Child |
| 21:15.03 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
| 21:15.06 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Guest55182] by ChanServ |
| 21:15.07 | foxlit|mac | http://wcradio.com/images/show_banners/WTC.jpg |
| 21:15.16 | foxlit|mac | ~failrik |
| 21:15.17 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 21:15.24 | Shirik | no you fail for using a mac |
| 21:15.38 | Shirik | Ok, fortune scared the hell out of me |
| 21:15.46 | Lunessa | Shirik: I'm using a mac troo. Suck it. |
| 21:15.48 | Shirik | Authenticating with public key "rsa-key-20090131" from agent |
| 21:15.49 | Shirik | panic: can't find / |
| 21:15.49 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ |
| 21:16.10 | Shirik | That is not a funny fortune >< |
| 21:16.25 | Tekkub | I always giggle when I see "panic" |
| 21:17.02 | Tekkub | makes me think real life... |
| 21:17.12 | Tekkub | Preparing pork chop dinner |
| 21:17.22 | Tekkub | panic: can't find green beans |
| 21:18.45 | Jamash | driving car |
| 21:18.47 | Jamash | panic: out of gas |
| 21:18.58 | mikma | dying |
| 21:19.01 | mikma | panic: out of life |
| 21:19.12 | Jamash | white nerd needs food badly |
| 21:19.25 | Thunder_Child | having sex |
| 21:19.27 | Thunder_Child | panic:forgot condom |
| 21:19.53 | Jamash | life: the original fork bomb |
| 21:21.18 | Tekkub | TC, shouldn't that be panic: condom broke? :) |
| 21:21.54 | Lopeppeppy | Not finding one = frustration |
| 21:22.08 | Tekkub | I have a dish full of em on my desk |
| 21:22.14 | Tekkub | no use for them, but whatever |
| 21:22.14 | Jamash | getting dressed |
| 21:22.21 | Jamash | panic: cannot find pants |
| 21:22.35 | Tekkub | panic: zipper... |
| 21:22.41 | foxlit|mac | meh, none of those are panics |
| 21:22.41 | Jamash | ouch |
| 21:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | Tekkub, you'll always have one to loan to a guest or friend. Always a use for 'em. |
| 21:22.47 | foxlit|mac | merely errors. |
| 21:23.41 | kneeki | If I have two loops going one inside the other, to stop the inner loop after something has been achieved I use 'break' right? |
| 21:23.51 | Jamash | ya |
| 21:24.06 | kneeki | And that will stop just the inner loop, while allowing the outer loop to finish |
| 21:24.09 | Jamash | right |
| 21:24.13 | kneeki | awesome, thx =) |
| 21:25.37 | Tekkub | I always feel insecure using break |
| 21:26.00 | Jamash | you think it might get broken? |
| 21:26.01 | kneeki | lol |
| 21:26.13 | Tekkub | I don't know what it is, I've never trusted break |
| 21:26.18 | kneeki | woo |
| 21:26.21 | kneeki | it worked perfectly =) |
| 21:27.49 | Lopeppeppy | Ta! |
| 21:28.12 | AckisWork | Tekkub: blow them up and you has a toy! |
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| 21:36.40 | Thunder_Child | the geeky way is |
| 21:36.44 | Thunder_Child | comicon |
| 21:37.16 | Thunder_Child | panic: cant remember what leia said to han at 00:49:02 in the epmire strikes back |
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| 21:38.43 | Tekkub | I think you mean |
| 21:38.49 | Tekkub | panic: what's that smell |
| 21:38.56 | Tekkub | rescue: oh wait that's just me |
| 21:39.05 | Landrell-AFK | Fear? |
| 21:42.46 | Thunder_Child | is the new instance maps give coords? |
| 21:42.53 | Thunder_Child | s/is/do/ |
| 21:43.37 | Tekkub | yes |
| 21:43.54 | Tekkub | well, no, none of the maps give "coords" |
| 21:44.11 | Tekkub | but yes, you can get player position and translate that into a coord system :) |
| 21:44.14 | Thunder_Child | you know what i mean, instances now have coords |
| 21:44.31 | Tekkub | yea, welcome to last week |
| 21:44.37 | Tekkub | nice to have you there |
| 21:44.43 | Thunder_Child | i was just double checking |
| 21:45.23 | Lunessa | o/~ Everybody's working for the weekend! |
| 21:45.42 | Thunder_Child | screw you for getting that stuck in my head Lunessa |
| 21:45.49 | Lunessa | VICTORY! |
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| 21:50.19 | Thunder_Child | i wonder how many people try to /join #wow-bdsm |
| 21:51.11 | Tekkub | *joins just to see* |
| 21:51.23 | Tekkub | none, fail |
| 21:51.39 | Thunder_Child | well i doubt anyone stays there |
| 21:52.29 | Thunder_Child | ~kick batrick |
| 21:52.30 | purl | ACTION kicks batrick |
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| 21:53.40 | batrick | ?? |
| 21:53.57 | Thunder_Child | good way to answer your pings batrick |
| 21:54.18 | batrick | last thing I read was you having purl kick me! |
| 21:54.22 | Thunder_Child | granted they were 20 hours or so ago |
| 21:54.45 | batrick | what do you want |
| 21:54.46 | Thunder_Child | anyway, i wanted to know if i could go abuse chatbot |
| 21:55.01 | batrick | i dont see y not |
| 21:55.09 | Thunder_Child | ok, thanks |
| 21:58.26 | jnwhiteh | http://fukung.net/v/13768/timemachine.jpg |
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| 22:06.51 | Thunder_Child | "the last time i had a piece of ass was when my finger ripped thru the toilet paper" |
| 22:08.25 | Dewin | *looks at fukung picture* Hey, look, it's craigslist. |
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| 22:09.08 | Lunessa | that's just freaking funny |
| 22:09.17 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:09.35 | Shirik | rawr |
| 22:09.50 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 22:10.20 | Landrell-AFK | lol |
| 22:10.32 | Shirik | I will destroy you and eat your children |
| 22:10.41 | Landrell-AFK | that's great |
| 22:10.41 | Dewin | Shirik eats babies? |
| 22:11.20 | Lunessa | Be sure to cook them for a while first Shirik , they're scrawny and likely to be tough and stringy if you don't. |
| 22:11.36 | Landrell-AFK | But I heard they were like Veal? |
| 22:12.22 | Thunder_Child | veal is raised in cages, most children are free-range |
| 22:13.04 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 22:13.09 | Shirik | there might be some caged children out there |
| 22:13.19 | Thunder_Child | i did say most |
| 22:13.33 | Landrell-AFK | I'd wager you'd end up paying top dollar. |
| 22:15.35 | Dewin | From everything I've read, we actually taste more like pork. |
| 22:16.07 | Thunder_Child | Dewin, i think Landrell-AFK meant texture wise |
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| 22:16.44 | Landrell | Heh. |
| 22:16.50 | Dewin | based on similarities in fat content, etc., and the confessions of a former cannibal -- so I think that'd include texture as well. |
| 22:17.01 | Dewin | I tend to absorb weird stories |
| 22:17.05 | Jamash | wow, I picked either the right time or the wrong time to log in |
| 22:17.09 | Landrell | lol |
| 22:17.22 | Dewin | No, not /my/ confessions. |
| 22:18.39 | Landrell | Shirik threated to destroy us and eat our babies earlier. We then concluded into the discussion of the aforementioned flavor/texture. |
| 22:18.47 | Landrell | I'm so going to Hell... |
| 22:19.10 | Thunder_Child | when you get ehre we can have a party |
| 22:19.14 | Thunder_Child | there* |
| 22:19.24 | Dewin | I hear it's warm year-long there and you can work on your tan. |
| 22:19.55 | Landrell | But...I burn easily. :( |
| 22:19.55 | Landrell | this could be a dilemma |
| 22:20.20 | Shirik | ok so, I'm trying to write up an awesome bash line |
| 22:20.30 | Shirik | it needs to scan a log file for distinct IP accesses |
| 22:20.47 | Shirik | cat ./access_log | grep "GET /JKRacing73" | ... something ... | wc -l |
| 22:20.54 | Dewin | Shirik: 'uniq' |
| 22:20.58 | Shirik | ooh |
| 22:20.59 | Shirik | that sounds fun |
| 22:21.51 | Dewin | and don't rely on that as a very accurate count of unique visitors, it's not. |
| 22:21.57 | Shirik | I know |
| 22:22.05 | Shirik | this is for something else |
| 22:22.07 | Landrell | class site. |
| 22:22.15 | Landrell | Been forever since I last read from it |
| 22:22.22 | Landrell | classic* |
| 22:22.42 | Dewin | also, you don't need the cat, grep "GET /JKRacing73" accesss_log will work. |
| 22:22.53 | Shirik | yeah it's just a habit :/ |
| 22:23.39 | durcyn | you want cut | sort | uniq |
| 22:24.05 | Dewin | my version of uniq can separate fields out, so cut is probably unneccessary |
| 22:24.15 | Dewin | you do need sort though |
| 22:28.03 | Shirik | cat /var/log/apache2/access_log | grep "GET /JKRacing73"| grep -o "^[0-9\.]*" | sort | uniq | wc -l |
| 22:28.05 | Shirik | win ^_^ |
| 22:28.09 | Shirik | <3 guys |
| 22:30.01 | Tem|work | fucking fuck |
| 22:30.07 | Tem|work | major DK tank nerfs on PTR |
| 22:30.12 | durcyn | see also: cut -d' ' -f1 instead of grep -o |
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| 22:30.35 | Shirik | ah |
| 22:30.36 | Hirsute-Away | Oh yeah? What kind, Tem|work ? |
| 22:30.58 | Tem|work | Bone shield double cooldown |
| 22:31.06 | Hirsute-Away | Wow. |
| 22:31.12 | Tem|work | will of the necropolis restricted to once every 15s |
| 22:31.25 | Tem|work | lichborne no more miss chance |
| 22:31.42 | Tem|work | blade barrier no longer grants parry |
| 22:31.48 | Jamash | ouch |
| 22:31.56 | Tem|work | instead reduces all damage by 1/2/3/4/5% |
| 22:32.15 | NightHawkTheSane | thats probably break-evenat worst |
| 22:32.15 | Hirsute-Away | Well, hopefully (with them going out on the PTRs) they'll get a chance to notice overnerfing and fix it before it goes live. |
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| 22:33.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Hirsute-Away: IF it's an overnerf |
| 22:33.30 | Hirsute-Away | NightHawkTheSane: Notice I didn't indicate anything in particular that I thought was an overnerf. |
| 22:33.42 | Tem|work | vampiric blood: cooldown doubled |
| 22:33.42 | Hirsute-Away | Though those are some substantial nerfs. |
| 22:34.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Hirsute-Away: yeah, and they are, but I'm not convinced they're unjustified |
| 22:34.02 | Hirsute-Away | And Blizz has been.... heavy-handed with the nerf bat, of late. |
| 22:34.08 | NightHawkTheSane | (i'm not convinced the severeity of them is either, but i digress) |
| 22:34.32 | Tem|work | some very significant nerfs to dps as well |
| 22:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | dps probably needed it, though |
| 22:35.01 | Tem|work | OH, I forgot the worst one |
| 22:35.23 | Tem|work | Frost Presence: only reduces magic damage by 10% |
| 22:35.26 | Tem|work | down from 15 |
| 22:35.39 | Tem|work | GG now we take more magic damage than any other tank |
| 22:35.40 | NightHawkTheSane | that, I think, is justified |
| 22:35.40 | Hirsute-Away | I'm not familiar with the threat mechanics for DKs, but if they depended on their DPS for threat, then that can be bad news. |
| 22:35.52 | Tem|work | I'm also concerned about since my threat is already the worst of the 4 tanks |
| 22:36.11 | Tem|work | DK tanks rely on BoSanc to be able to rune strike |
| 22:36.23 | Tem|work | in the patch, sanc won't grant us RP anymore |
| 22:36.32 | Tem|work | so if we had a pally, we're getting a threat nerf |
| 22:36.41 | Tem|work | if you didn't have a pally, you were the worst threat of the 4 classes |
| 22:36.50 | Hirsute-Away | Take more magic damage than any other tank? Unless something changed (and it might have, haven't played my warrior in a while) Warrior tanks have no magic damage reduction that's useful in boss fights, at all. |
| 22:36.51 | durcyn | Tem|work: revitalize? |
| 22:37.09 | Tem|work | Warrios have a static 10% reduction to all damage in def stance |
| 22:37.26 | Tem|work | plus a talent to increase that |
| 22:37.30 | durcyn | Tem|work: that's 5% in 9658 |
| 22:37.38 | durcyn | scroll down |
| 22:37.39 | Tem|work | pallies go to 16% last I heard |
| 22:37.40 | Hirsute-Away | Didn't think that included magic (but again, I'm easily wrong) |
| 22:37.50 | NightHawkTheSane | def stance is base -all- damage |
| 22:37.53 | durcyn | Hirsute-Away: improved defensive stance adds magic reduction |
| 22:38.07 | Hirsute-Away | Aaah, there we go. Knew I was forgetting something. |
| 22:38.09 | durcyn | but again, def stance nerfed to 5% in the same patch as tem is complaining about |
| 22:38.34 | durcyn | all tanks are taking it up the ass, look at the hotw stam reduction |
| 22:38.36 | Tem|work | I didn't know def stance was also nerfed |
| 22:38.43 | Tem|work | yeah that's epicly lame for druids |
| 22:40.21 | Adys | Hmmm |
| 22:40.30 | Adys | does the 4p bonus on Frostfire really work? |
| 22:40.46 | Adys | my crits dont seem to get any bonus dmg |
| 22:40.53 | Adys | frost crits anyway |
| 22:41.19 | Tem|work | so yeah, I r teh pissed |
| 22:41.38 | Hirsute-Away | Oooh, are you sure Def stance is getting nerfed to 5%? I read it as reducing damage *taken* by 10%, and damage *caused* by 5% (down from 10) |
| 22:41.47 | Hirsute-Away | Looks to me like it's a dps buff for prot warriors. |
| 22:42.03 | durcyn | Hirsute-Away: defensive and berserker were both dropped to 5% according to The Frenchman over there |
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| 22:42.51 | durcyn | hm, you might be right. |
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| 22:43.20 | durcyn | Tem|work: anyway, does the druid revitalize talent make up for bosanc? it restores a decent bit of RP |
| 22:43.44 | Codayus | Warrior stances are getting a straight buff. |
| 22:44.13 | Codayus | ArPen for battle, reduction in the damage taken penalty for berserker, and a reduction in the damage caused penalty for defensive. |
| 22:44.26 | mikma | sounds like DK stances |
| 22:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|afk: if im reading the talents right, paladins get 9% general damge reduction and 6% additional magic damage reduction, which is on par with 5+10 for dks |
| 22:44.48 | Hirsute-Away | *everything* I'm rading indicates that Def stance is getting a DPS buff, not a mitigation nerf. |
| 22:44.59 | NightHawkTheSane | and also on par with 10+6 for warriors |
| 22:45.02 | Hirsute-Away | -->Defensive Stance now reduces damage *caused* by 5%. (Down from 10%) |
| 22:45.02 | batbot | Hirsute-Away: @ [string "Defensive Stance now reduces damage *caused* by 5%. (Down from ..."]:1: '=' expected near 'Stance' |
| 22:45.04 | durcyn | Hirsute-Away: yeah, i misread it. |
| 22:45.25 | Hirsute-Away | Woops.. looks like I triggerd a bot. |
| 22:45.33 | NightHawkTheSane | druids seem on the low end with just 12% damage reduction |
| 22:46.31 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: revitalize is a pretty bad talent from what i hear :\ |
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| 22:46.55 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: i'm just wondering how it compares to the loss of sanctuary for RP generation |
| 22:47.06 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't :) |
| 22:47.23 | NightHawkTheSane | The awesomeness of BoSanc was that it's rp/rage/mana generation scaled up with gear |
| 22:47.45 | Tem|work | oh fucking awesome, Unbreakable armor is also getting a doubling of its cooldown |
| 22:47.48 | Tem|work | *sigh* |
| 22:48.03 | NightHawkTheSane | the druid talent (named Replenish btw), is a flat 15% chance per tic of rejuv |
| 22:48.32 | durcyn | it's renamed Revitalize in 3.1 |
| 22:48.33 | NightHawkTheSane | it also only restores about half as much |
| 22:48.42 | Tem|work | sigh |
| 22:48.43 | durcyn | i see. |
| 22:48.48 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: oh? missed that change. :\ i dont play a resto druid |
| 22:48.51 | Tem|work | I'm not going to be able to tank anything |
| 22:49.08 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, apparently the name was too close to Replenishment. Who knew? |
| 22:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|work: sounds more like dk mitigation and cooldowns were slightly nerfed across the board. a little early for doom and gloom, imo |
| 22:49.21 | foxlit|mac | Tem|work: meh. |
| 22:49.23 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: hehe, yeah :) |
| 22:49.29 | foxlit|mac | You don't _need_ those cooldowns to tank things. |
| 22:50.25 | foxlit|mac | If anything, frost becomes slightly more viable because of Guile of Gorefiend becoming more significant than it previously was. |
| 22:57.11 | Tem|work | NHTS, I don't mean that as a class I'll be unable to tank |
| 22:57.21 | Tem|work | I mean that I won't get to tank in our raids |
| 22:57.50 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds like a shitty raid group then |
| 22:57.51 | Tem|work | Given the choice, it'll always go to the warriors |
| 22:58.02 | foxlit | Shitty raid group motion seconded. |
| 22:58.09 | Tem|work | I get to tank when it's to the group's advantage to let me tank |
| 22:58.13 | Tem|work | OR when the content is on farm |
| 22:58.43 | foxlit | So you're saying that... there will not be ANY encounters in which it'll be to the group's advantage to let you tank? |
| 22:59.08 | Tem|work | they just nerfed my cooldowns to the same level of a warrior's |
| 22:59.21 | Tem|work | his damage is more stable than mine to begin with because of the shield |
| 22:59.33 | Tem|work | and even then, I tanked Patch, Heigan, and sapph last naxx |
| 22:59.39 | Tem|work | 3/15 |
| 22:59.42 | Tem|work | le |
| 22:59.43 | Tem|work | fucking |
| 22:59.44 | Tem|work | sigh |
| 23:00.25 | Tem|work | Sorry, guys. I had a bad day, and this made it worse |
| 23:00.30 | Tem|work | I'm not normally this chicken little |
| 23:00.43 | Tem|work | but yeah so work over, I'm going the fuck home |
| 23:01.58 | Tuller | nanananana |
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| 23:09.21 | Shirik | Naxx, 10-man: 7:45 AM |
| 23:09.21 | Shirik | someone needs to pay more attention |
| 23:09.25 | durcyn | kel'thuzad gets up bright and early, you should too. |
| 23:09.40 | Shirik | tomorrow's is also |
| 23:09.41 | Shirik | lol |
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| 23:14.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Kel'Thuzad starts his day with a tasty bowl of Shirik's Raid Wheaties! The Boss breakfast of choice! |
| 23:17.18 | Toadkiller | Kel'thuzad, bringer of loot and food-stamps? |
| 23:19.21 | Dewin | I hear Arthas prefers Frostmourne Flakes. |
| 23:19.31 | mikma | tears of noobs |
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| 23:22.36 | foxlit | grumble grumble |
| 23:22.40 | foxlit | 4GB of screenshots |
| 23:22.49 | foxlit | I need something that'd let me sift through that and decide which to keep :/ |
| 23:25.49 | Arrowmaster | i can hear a fucking icecream truck outside...... |
| 23:26.06 | Arrowmaster | it was fucking 8F earlyer this week |
| 23:27.00 | Arrowmaster | although today was a high of 65F |
| 23:27.16 | Arrowmaster | and http://thefuckingweather.com/ says 'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here' |
| 23:28.52 | |Jelly| | http://thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=76137 |
| 23:30.37 | Arrowmaster | 'BIKINI WEATHER!' |
| 23:36.08 | ckknight | ITS FUCKING NICE Quit your bitching |
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| 23:42.59 | Shirik | http://thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=32114 |
| 23:44.29 | |Jelly| | Has anyone ever played with Rawr? |
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| 23:48.04 | Tekkub | I use rawr every fucking day |
| 23:48.06 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.12 | |Jelly| | Hardcore. |
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| 23:49.53 | Tekkub | I never should have added draenei or belfs though |
