| 00:05.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@203-158-46-192.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 00:05.51 | Wobin | wtf people? Octomum is being offered to act in a 1 million dollar porn movie? |
| 00:06.25 | mikma | who is he? |
| 00:06.46 | Lopeppeppy | She. |
| 00:06.53 | Lopeppeppy | No... I think that would be.... skeevy. |
| 00:07.28 | Wobin | She's the one who has had octuplets through IVF |
| 00:07.37 | Wobin | (And already has six children. And is a single mother) |
| 00:07.43 | Wobin | (And can barely support herself) |
| 00:07.53 | NeoTron | well there's one way of supporting the kids |
| 00:07.54 | Wobin | (And is ... really stupid) |
| 00:08.10 | mikma | anyway, who is she? |
| 00:08.40 | Wobin | ha |
| 00:08.40 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadya_Suleman |
| 00:08.46 | Wobin | she actually has a wikipedia article |
| 00:08.55 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleman_octuplets |
| 00:08.56 | NeoTron | two |
| 00:09.08 | NeoTron | well one is about the kids but still |
| 00:09.53 | mikma | right |
| 00:10.07 | mikma | i bet porn with that is just dildofisting |
| 00:10.12 | NeoTron | lame all of them are called <something> Angel Solomon |
| 00:10.13 | NeoTron | lawl |
| 00:10.16 | Lopeppeppy | ..... k, did not need that.... |
| 00:10.42 | Wobin | The photo of her with the eight of them in her >< |
| 00:10.52 | Wobin | The human body was -not- designed for litters |
| 00:10.57 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously. |
| 00:11.12 | mikma | wobin: my point exactly |
| 00:11.47 | Wobin | mikma: The male actors could take the dildos and go "Here comes the choochoo train! *chugga chugga chugga*" |
| 00:12.01 | mikma | wobin: choo choo! |
| 00:12.34 | mikma | i mean, after 8 there migh not be anything left as whole |
| 00:12.43 | mikma | might aswell go extreme |
| 00:12.48 | Wobin | NeoTron: hm, actually the one I linked redirects to yours |
| 00:13.01 | Wobin | mikma: actually I doubt she gave birth naturally |
| 00:13.15 | Wobin | caeserian would be the only way I'd imagine |
| 00:13.35 | Wobin | yeah, it was a caeserian |
| 00:13.56 | Wobin | Although... |
| 00:14.06 | Wobin | Thank god she did not name them all with the same first letter =P |
| 00:15.22 | mikma | that would have sucked |
| 00:18.07 | p3lim | Anyone know how to bring up the new gear handling in 3.1? |
| 00:18.11 | p3lim | PTR that is |
| 00:18.31 | mikma | slashcommand or so |
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| 00:18.44 | Kirov | w/o caeserian I'd imagine something like the ping pong ball scene from Percilla Queen of the Desert, only with fetuses. |
| 00:19.17 | mikma | mm ping pong balls |
| 00:19.38 | mikma | reminds me of Ali G In da house -movie |
| 00:19.42 | mikma | plop |
| 00:20.13 | Kirov | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDu9gbuKpKc - if you haven't seen it. |
| 00:20.26 | Kirov | Great movie if you've never seen it. |
| 00:20.59 | p3lim | love the new LFG/LFM and BG Signup |
| 00:21.27 | Kirov | Guy Pierce's break out movie, also has Hugo Weaving and Terence Stamp |
| 00:22.59 | Tekkub | LFG has long needed "I am this role" |
| 00:23.12 | Tekkub | you don't look for a hunter, you look for dps |
| 00:26.17 | p3lim | Tekkub, you playing on the PTR right now? |
| 00:26.36 | mikma | i think tekkub is playing his own PTR now |
| 00:27.20 | Tekkub | I was on there for a few min to see instance maps |
| 00:27.37 | p3lim | know how the equipment thing works? |
| 00:27.52 | Tekkub | barebones simple |
| 00:28.06 | Tekkub | equip the sit you want, click save, give a name and icon like a macro |
| 00:28.09 | Tekkub | all done |
| 00:28.10 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzyjpK6kDtw |
| 00:28.23 | Tekkub | s/sit/shit/ |
| 00:29.09 | p3lim | Tekkub: is there a slashcommand or something for it? |
| 00:29.18 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.32 | Tekkub | dunno, I'm sure people will push out LDB plugins damn fast for it |
| 00:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | saved on the server by chance? |
| 00:29.54 | Stanzilla | p3lim: you have to enable it in the options |
| 00:30.02 | p3lim | ah figures |
| 00:30.09 | Tekkub | I didn't dig into where it saves, but I'd bet it's serverside |
| 00:30.19 | p3lim | ScytheBlade1: yes, server saved |
| 00:30.41 | Wobin | mikma: booyaka booyaka |
| 00:30.49 | Wobin | I don't really like Ali G |
| 00:30.53 | Wobin | but the music was good |
| 00:31.40 | mikma | wobin: sasha is the man really =D |
| 00:32.13 | Wobin | I think SBC is the man that Adam Sandler wishes he was =P |
| 00:32.23 | mikma | wobin: the mustaches he has on borat / ali g are the real stuff |
| 00:32.25 | Tekkub | SBC? |
| 00:32.36 | mikma | now that takes some dedication imho! |
| 00:32.42 | Wobin | Sasha BAron Cohen |
| 00:32.52 | Tekkub | who the fucknut is that? |
| 00:32.54 | mikma | borat / alig / bruno |
| 00:32.58 | Wobin | ^ |
| 00:34.38 | Fisker- | take me Shirik |
| 00:34.48 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FbTzoGrAM |
| 00:34.58 | mikma | tekkub: ^--- |
| 00:35.25 | NightHawkTheSane | mmo-champ's blue tracker needs a "everything but ptr" filter >< |
| 00:36.50 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... |
| 00:39.58 | mikma | hehe.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxIdgAFO4Cg |
| 00:40.08 | mikma | longer clicp from start of the movie |
| 00:40.28 | Tekkub | 5 seconds of that was plenty |
| 00:40.59 | mikma | thought so =) |
| 00:41.30 | mikma | the second clip explains alot from 1min+ |
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| 00:44.07 | abug | so I was reading through the comments in framexml |
| 00:44.17 | Wobin | hehe, I have to say, if you want a good example of how to use a presentation with effect (like powerpoint sort of thing) Yahtzee Crowshaw is one of the best examples out there =P |
| 00:44.21 | abug | and I can't figure out if this one is offensive |
| 00:44.58 | Shirik | See, Lopeppeppy ignored me again |
| 00:45.03 | Shirik | twice in one day :( |
| 00:45.20 | abug | PlayerFrame.lua(547): -- Mmmm, runic Power Bars, my favorite kind. Tastes like Death Knnigget. |
| 00:45.22 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry, Shirik, I'm very distracted. How could you unbore me? Do you have a reverse drill? |
| 00:45.31 | Shirik | a what? |
| 00:45.34 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:45.37 | Tekkub | I can help! |
| 00:45.41 | Shirik | that went right over my head >< |
| 00:45.42 | Tekkub | *s |
| 00:45.51 | Lopeppeppy | *grin* |
| 00:46.20 | Arrowmaster | abug: look closer |
| 00:47.14 | Shirik | ~lart Fisker- |
| 00:47.15 | purl | resizes Fisker-'s terminal to 40x24 |
| 00:47.21 | abug | I'm still unsure |
| 00:47.22 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoUShKuttbs <- kinda surprised if you havent heard about that one |
| 00:47.23 | Fisker- | :( |
| 00:48.35 | Tekkub | ugh, now I have to open FF again |
| 00:50.01 | Tekkub | I want a refund |
| 00:50.19 | mikma | sure, just find the naked wrestling part of the movie |
| 00:51.57 | Fisker- | i'll refund anything you want Tekkub |
| 00:54.49 | mikma | so... instancemaps in 3.1? |
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| 00:55.48 | ZorbaBeta | I wonder if it'll be possible to get instance coordinates as well |
| 00:56.31 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 00:57.05 | mikma | think so! |
| 00:57.24 | mikma | whats the point of giving maps unless they will get support |
| 00:58.32 | Arrowmaster | actually im positive you cant considering how they did the maps, its not a single map with fixed X,Y area but different levels for Z like dalaran is |
| 01:00.58 | ZorbaBeta | can't you get the map texture for dalaran, though? thereby allowing you to treat those as different zones overlaid on top of each other? |
| 01:01.37 | Arrowmaster | see http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:Coordinate-safe_maps |
| 01:02.28 | ZorbaBeta | I'm sort of not seeing what the problem is |
| 01:02.39 | Arrowmaster | look at the naxx map |
| 01:03.11 | ZorbaBeta | alright, I see it. I'm still not seeing what the problem is :P |
| 01:03.28 | Arrowmaster | or ahnkahet, or azjolnerub |
| 01:03.51 | ZorbaBeta | yes, some maps have multiple levels or multiple insets. Why is this an issue? |
| 01:04.17 | Arrowmaster | the entire coordinate system exposed to the ui is based on giving the location of the player to position on the map, its not really a zone position at all |
| 01:04.35 | Arrowmaster | look at the dalaran maps |
| 01:04.46 | ZorbaBeta | Yeah, I'm . . . okay with that. It's not that hard to figure out how the submaps intersect. |
| 01:04.48 | Arrowmaster | they have the exact same X,Y possition just different Z |
| 01:05.09 | ZorbaBeta | then you just create some canonical coordinate system and convert the player's location into canonical-loc |
| 01:05.46 | mikma | lol "Darnassis" |
| 01:05.57 | Arrowmaster | and then we have 50 billion different implementations of that system because everybody wants to do it their own way |
| 01:06.09 | mikma | i know |
| 01:06.15 | ZorbaBeta | sure, but that's not proof it can't be done |
| 01:06.17 | mikma | make it ACE |
| 01:06.26 | mikma | then everyone will use it |
| 01:06.46 | mikma | yes, i said ACE on purpose, not Ace |
| 01:06.52 | Arrowmaster | and unless theyve changed it, GetMapInfo() does not tell you the correct texture for multi level areas |
| 01:07.00 | Thunder_Child | obiously no one cares mikma |
| 01:07.10 | mikma | thunder_child: fanbois do |
| 01:07.16 | Thunder_Child | obviously (sp?) |
| 01:07.17 | batbot | Thunder_Child, obviously is correct. |
| 01:07.29 | Arrowmaster | you have to check another function, after manually selecting the proper level (it didnt change on its own) |
| 01:08.12 | WhiteWolf | if i understand, you're suggesting to watch x/y crossings for known transitions to different Z levels, and thus different maps? |
| 01:09.02 | mikma | or have esamynn|away take care of it! he's pro with coordinates and stuff ;) |
| 01:09.20 | ZorbaBeta | white, it oughta be possible, yep. a little finicky, but possible. this is assuming there's really no way to get the current level |
| 01:09.23 | Arrowmaster | plus another reason i say that we dont get coordinates is because none of the screenshots that i saw had player arrows |
| 01:09.32 | Arrowmaster | so no we dont get coordinates |
| 01:09.36 | Thunder_Child | oh boo, turning in a daily late kills it for that day |
| 01:09.47 | ZorbaBeta | ah, I haven't seen a screenshot yet |
| 01:09.49 | mikma | arrowmaster: they will add it! its not coded yet! |
| 01:09.56 | Arrowmaster | i hope they dont |
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| 01:10.12 | oao | greetings all |
| 01:10.34 | Thunder_Child | hello oao |
| 01:10.38 | oao | i am seeking assistance with this issue: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15230880802&sid=1 |
| 01:11.10 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: player arrows are there |
| 01:11.15 | Thunder_Child | !api setbinding |
| 01:11.15 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'setbinding': SetBinding, SetBindingClick, SetBindingMacro, SetBindingItem, SetBindingSpell |
| 01:11.17 | Stanzilla | nev tested it |
| 01:11.24 | Thunder_Child | !api SetBinding |
| 01:11.24 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'SetBinding' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetBinding |
| 01:11.34 | ZorbaBeta | stan, sweet. was there any testing of whether you could get coordinate info? |
| 01:11.41 | Thunder_Child | SCREW your capslock lua_bot |
| 01:11.52 | mikma | ~wowbible |
| 01:11.53 | purl | rumour has it, wowbible is http://wowprogramming.com/docs |
| 01:12.16 | oao | yeah, that's the reference that i used |
| 01:12.31 | Arrowmaster | oao: you're doing it wrong, you cant bind a key to a function |
| 01:12.52 | oao | aha, great! is there a workaround? |
| 01:13.04 | Arrowmaster | use Bindings.xml |
| 01:13.30 | oao | no way to do it purely in the addon? |
| 01:13.39 | Arrowmaster | that is in an addon |
| 01:13.54 | Arrowmaster | or create a frame, set an onclick, and use SetBindingClick |
| 01:14.05 | oao | oh, the addon contains a Bindings.xml file? got it. |
| 01:14.49 | oao | thanks! i'll try it out. i appreciate your help. |
| 01:15.10 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/Bindings.xml |
| 01:16.52 | oao | wow that looks... easy. |
| 01:17.11 | oao | thanks again! |
| 01:17.34 | Thunder_Child | anyone tried out safari 4? |
| 01:18.10 | oao | it looks as if once i define the bindings there, SetBinding will probably work |
| 01:18.11 | Stanzilla | yes.. |
| 01:18.23 | oao | (though at that point i don't care so much) |
| 01:19.34 | Dagmar | Woo! Got about fifteen feet that time |
| 01:19.52 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/are_violent_video_games?utm_source=onion_rss_daily |
| 01:19.54 | Dagmar | There'd better be a van full of meddling kids when I get to Westfall |
| 01:20.12 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 01:24.42 | oao | Arrowmaster: what you suggested works, and i can use SetOverrideBinding() from the Lua code to specify a specific binding if i want. thanks again! |
| 01:25.35 | oao | my next issue is creating and editing macros from Lua code, which seems to work but does not apparently result in any actual macros being created. |
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| 01:44.31 | Syzgyn | Is WoWWiki down? |
| 01:45.03 | kd3 | it just crashed. poking staff now |
| 01:45.22 | kd3 | it's wikia-wide. a router must've gone out |
| 01:45.27 | Syzgyn | Ahh |
| 01:45.35 | Syzgyn | I just wanted to make sure it wasnt just me. |
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| 01:47.27 | NightHawkTheSane | jnwhiteh: do you have plans to add any current-spec-based profile switching to clique? |
| 01:48.00 | NightHawkTheSane | (and if not, can i request it? :p) |
| 01:50.34 | Dagmar | Server shutdown in 10 minutes on Braxinarwhatsis |
| 01:50.36 | Dagmar | Good sign |
| 01:51.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ya? |
| 01:51.18 | kd3 | ah, guess that's why the world server's been down for a few minutes |
| 01:51.27 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, now it's just giving you a warning instead of crashing randomly ;)( |
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| 01:53.27 | kd3 | blah. wish I had built up a better backlog of images needing work before both the server died and wowwiki lost a router... >.> |
| 01:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Awww |
| 01:54.39 | Shirik | what server does the Lopeppeppy play on? |
| 01:55.02 | Iriel | She's now "the lopeppeppy" ? |
| 01:55.17 | Iriel | Is that in a kind of "there can be only one" way, with swords? |
| 01:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | The Peppy is located on Kirin Tor, and Argent Dawn. |
| 01:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, there can be only one of me! |
| 01:56.35 | alestane | One is plenty! |
| 01:56.38 | Thunder_Child | not if there is a ......... MULTIVERSE! |
| 01:57.04 | Lopeppeppy | No... a multiverse of Peppy would be a Very Dangerous Thing. |
| 01:57.13 | Lopeppeppy | Cog could not stand that much Sprocket competition, he'd blow his top. |
| 01:57.21 | Thunder_Child | that would be Peppy's |
| 01:57.22 | NightHawkTheSane | peppy^2? |
| 01:57.36 | Thunder_Child | peppy^#inf i think |
| 01:57.41 | NightHawkTheSane | peppy^peppy |
| 01:58.08 | Shirik | Iriel: I dunno, it's Cairenn / Dolby's fault |
| 01:58.24 | Lopeppeppy | What did Cairenn and Dolby do now? |
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| 01:58.38 | Cairenn | hehehehehe |
| 01:58.41 | Shirik | They made me prefix peoples' names with "the" |
| 01:58.53 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. *laugh* |
| 01:58.58 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I don't mind being unique! |
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| 01:59.29 | Cairenn | Dolby started it |
| 01:59.37 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.43 | Cairenn | and I picked it up |
| 01:59.49 | Cairenn | "Cairenn hugs the Dolby" |
| 01:59.54 | Cairenn | and it's just gone from there :p |
| 01:59.58 | Shirik | I need recommendations on a server I can escape to from time to time |
| 02:00.34 | Syzgyn | What faction shirik? |
| 02:00.36 | Dagmar | Escape to in what way |
| 02:01.00 | Dagmar | If you're looking to get away from dimwitted players, help me campaign for Blizzard to open up a "Literates-only" server |
| 02:01.03 | Lopeppeppy | I will happily shield you, dear. |
| 02:01.20 | Shirik | well all my current characters are horde |
| 02:01.26 | Shirik | so I was thinking alliance |
| 02:01.41 | Iriel | All the cool kids have alliance characters on Silver Hand |
| 02:01.47 | Syzgyn | I'm alliance on Kel'Thuzad if you dont mind the pvp :P |
| 02:01.48 | Iriel | That's where Iriel is |
| 02:01.55 | Iriel | though I dont actually play her much at the moment |
| 02:02.03 | Iriel | so it might not help you |
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| 02:02.18 | Shirik | I don't need any help |
| 02:02.29 | Iriel | it's one of the original servers |
| 02:02.30 | Iriel | RP |
| 02:02.32 | Lopeppeppy | Not "help", but a leveling buddy is always fun, Shirik. |
| 02:02.35 | Iriel | so no PVP crap |
| 02:04.30 | Shirik | yeah but I don't want to be a burden on anyone just because I came along, Lopeppeppy :) |
| 02:05.46 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik. More leveling buddies is not a freakin' burden. *poke* |
| 02:07.37 | Iriel | Hm, I just maxed out my inscription skill, wierd.. that was oddly anticlimactic |
| 02:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | ... :P |
| 02:07.46 | Dolby | Shirik is the man, any one lucky enough to group with him should feel blessed |
| 02:07.56 | Lopeppeppy | I think so too, Dolby. |
| 02:08.01 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Dolby!n=Shirik@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Dolby is the man that got kicked) |
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| 02:08.06 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 02:08.09 | Dolby | lol |
| 02:08.10 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, I would join that campaign in a second |
| 02:08.11 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 02:08.34 | ZorbaBeta | if we could make "lol", "idk", and "omg" bannable except in an ironic context, that would be my favorite server ever |
| 02:08.50 | ZorbaBeta | (especially idk) |
| 02:09.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lololololol |
| 02:09.19 | ScytheBlade1 | idk bout that |
| 02:09.59 | ZorbaBeta | oh dammit fuck wintergrasp >:( |
| 02:10.01 | Dagmar | I miss the literacy level of closed beta so much |
| 02:10.02 | Pytlask | OMG SCYTHEBLADE1 THAT SARCASM WAS AWESOME |
| 02:10.10 | Lopeppeppy | tell us how you really feel, zorba |
| 02:10.36 | ZorbaBeta | I was just flying from point A to point B, type some stuff in here, look back at the window, and hey lookit that I have a parachute |
| 02:10.37 | Dolby | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/are_violent_video_games?utm_source=a-section Haha this is great |
| 02:10.49 | ZorbaBeta | almost landed in front of the wrathgate too |
| 02:11.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Dolby: slow, I already linked that |
| 02:11.08 | ScytheBlade1 | But yes it is amazing =] |
| 02:11.09 | Shirik | Dolby is slow man |
| 02:11.17 | Dolby | yeah I'm slow |
| 02:11.30 | Dolby | so that means you must be the man Shirik |
| 02:11.34 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
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| 02:11.39 | Shirik | incorrect |
| 02:11.55 | Shirik | there can only be one man, and you have both the man title and addendums to that title |
| 02:12.00 | Shirik | you should be honored |
| 02:13.13 | Lopeppeppy | Wrestle it out! |
| 02:14.15 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:14.23 | Shirik | Is Lopeppeppy going to hold up the "Round 1" signs? |
| 02:14.33 | Lopeppeppy | Wrestle Dolby, I'll do the signs, Cairenn can referee |
| 02:14.41 | Shirik | hawt |
| 02:14.41 | Cairenn | hhehe |
| 02:14.51 | Dolby | I dont wrestle other guys ;) |
| 02:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh well... sad to be us. |
| 02:16.28 | Pup | does anyone know if sourceGUID has been added in 3.1 for SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE and _REFRESH combat log events? |
| 02:18.37 | ScytheBlade1 | probably not |
| 02:18.48 | ScytheBlade1 | The network bandwidth and protocol changes to allow that would be... well |
| 02:18.52 | |Jelly| | WIIIINDOOOZEE! |
| 02:18.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Not small or trivial |
| 02:19.19 | Pup | someone told me REFRESH was planned to be changed in 3.1, but i dont have access to the ptr to test it :/ |
| 02:19.40 | Dolby | Lopeppeppy: you replacing all the windoze in our house? |
| 02:19.51 | Lopeppeppy | Dolby, just one specific windoze. |
| 02:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Pup: who did? |
| 02:20.31 | Dolby | Pella? |
| 02:20.36 | Pup | someone who replied to a post i made on the wow forums |
| 02:20.49 | Pup | not saying he is any authority on whats being changed :) |
| 02:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If you could link it, that could explain a lot |
| 02:21.02 | ScytheBlade1 | right, that's what I'm after :) |
| 02:21.15 | Pup | thats why im asking the question in here :p |
| 02:21.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't know for certain but chances are that it is not being changed |
| 02:21.56 | Pup | :( |
| 02:22.02 | ScytheBlade1 | If they had the data for REFRESH/APPLIED_DOSE srcGUID then it would already be in there |
| 02:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, as we don't have it in there, it is somewhat safe to assume the client doesn't have that info |
| 02:22.27 | Pup | well i just also read this from googling 'Slouken has acknowledged this - many months ago. He offered to fix it, but warned that if someone refresh a spell, it will not be the refresher who is shown as source, but the person who applied the buff originally' |
| 02:22.31 | Pup | [02:22:10] <Pup> well i just also read this from googling 'Slouken has acknowledged this - many months ago. He offered to fix it, but w |
| 02:22.33 | Pup | mt |
| 02:22.36 | Pup | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=266917 |
| 02:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Which would mean to change it would mean more bandwidth and protocol changes to make it work |
| 02:24.27 | ScytheBlade1 | My guess is that it is intended and won't be changing |
| 02:24.40 | ScytheBlade1 | But we'll have UI diffs and stickies in the UI forums soon enough detailing the changes |
| 02:25.04 | Iriel | You could theoretically just check it 8-) |
| 02:25.32 | Pup | just check what? |
| 02:25.37 | ScytheBlade1 | He said he didn't have access to the PTR |
| 02:25.40 | Pup | aye |
| 02:25.46 | Pup | else i would :) |
| 02:25.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Why don't you, out of curiosity? |
| 02:26.12 | Pup | cos signups are closed, and i waited till the ptr went live |
| 02:26.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You can make a new character |
| 02:26.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Warlocks get DoTs pretty darn early |
| 02:26.46 | Pup | hm, which level 1 can apply buff stacks? |
| 02:26.47 | Pup | hm |
| 02:26.50 | Iriel | Or create a DK |
| 02:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | DK would work too |
| 02:26.55 | Duman | whee |
| 02:26.56 | Pup | thx, ill try that |
| 02:27.06 | Pup | i have the ptr client installed already at least :) |
| 02:27.09 | Duman | kd3 making friends on the ptr forum already, that was quick ;) |
| 02:27.23 | kd3 | yup |
| 02:27.31 | Iriel | Dont you just need to be around people who cast them? |
| 02:27.36 | Gotai | Does anyone happen to know if the mutilate castsequence issue has been fixed on the PTR? |
| 02:27.36 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 02:27.37 | Pup | yes |
| 02:28.01 | Pup | that was a reply to Iriel btw Gotai :) |
| 02:28.18 | Gotai | Figured as much ;) |
| 02:29.07 | Syzgyn | Runic Power is power type 5, right? |
| 02:29.20 | Pup | bleh, doesnt seem to be any ptr realms up atm anyways |
| 02:29.47 | Iriel | 6 |
| 02:30.00 | Iriel | SPELL_POWER_RUNIC_POWER |
| 02:30.04 | Iriel | is the constant |
| 02:30.09 | Iriel | it's in FrameXML/Constants.lua |
| 02:30.35 | Syzgyn | Ah yea, forgot about that, thanks Iriel |
| 02:31.21 | Duman | ptr is down for update |
| 02:31.28 | Syzgyn | Good |
| 02:31.34 | Syzgyn | whats the ETA? |
| 02:31.36 | Duman | wtb less crashes ;) |
| 02:31.43 | Duman | dunno, didn't see an eta |
| 02:31.47 | Duman | d"'few hours" I guess |
| 02:31.54 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15199336619&sid=1 |
| 02:32.08 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 02:34.43 | Lopeppeppy | Computer needs a name, quick, save me!! |
| 02:34.53 | ZorbaBeta | oh, I love what they're doing with ulduar testing |
| 02:34.57 | alestane | Shazbot. |
| 02:35.16 | alestane | Smerdle? |
| 02:35.24 | alestane | Agamemnon. |
| 02:35.51 | Pup | hm, ScytheBlade1 if you are interested i actually found ablue post by sloken about the sGUID for REFRESH : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=10 'Yes, although if person A applied the buff, and person B renewed it, you'd get the src as person A. Is that useful? ' |
| 02:36.16 | Pup | ill give the ptr a go tomorrow and see anyways, thx for the input |
| 02:36.24 | Lopeppeppy | Doorstop wins! |
| 02:36.37 | alestane | Who said Doorstop? |
| 02:36.58 | Lopeppeppy | A girlfriend in another chat. |
| 02:38.06 | alestane | I was going to suggest Sisyphus, but I was afraid it would be prophetic. |
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| 02:43.57 | alestane | My mother used to have a large collection of troll dolls, all with names like Agamemnon and Clytemnestra, or Alecto, Megaera and Tisiphone. |
| 02:51.24 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, classic names! |
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| 02:54.05 | Thunder_Child | whydoes wow use ~1gb of ram vanilla? |
| 02:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | Windows is... done!!! |
| 02:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: caches |
| 02:55.57 | Thunder_Child | i thought most of that was addons though |
| 02:56.02 | norgs | Hey... Does anyone know how to tell if the current GetRealmName() is a US or European realm? (ie, they share realmnames, is there a way to tell them apart?) |
| 02:56.11 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, wow |
| 02:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:56.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I read that as windows |
| 02:56.23 | Iriel | can you see the realmlist server from the cvars? |
| 02:57.01 | Gotai | Aye |
| 02:57.09 | Gotai | GetCVar("realmlist") |
| 02:57.19 | Iriel | just tried it |
| 02:57.45 | norgs | kewl |
| 02:57.47 | norgs | thanks |
| 02:58.00 | Syzgyn | Neat, I was using GetLocale() before, thats much cleaner |
| 02:58.15 | norgs | yeah, I was considering GetLocale too |
| 02:59.40 | norgs | I wonder if that returns just us, eu, ko etc |
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| 03:01.49 | Lopeppeppy | First program installed! AVG! |
| 03:03.16 | Dagmar | I'm still doing fine with Comodo here |
| 03:04.34 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 03:04.48 | Thunder_Child | maybe it doesnt like NOD32 then |
| 03:05.22 | Thunder_Child | thats the only program that got far enough to hang |
| 03:05.43 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: An excellent program to start with. |
| 03:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it's not like I can get out to the internet yet, so I don't need it yet... but it goes on first!!! |
| 03:08.02 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: I'm not sure what happened during your upgrade |
| 03:08.25 | Dagmar | I mean, I see how the policy could be completely misconfigured to do that, but it really shoudln't have gotten itself into that stae |
| 03:08.29 | Dagmar | s/stae/state/; |
| 03:09.50 | tlund | can someone give me a "complete" list of addons I need to replace cartographer2 (in the shape carographer was in 2.x, when it was actually working?) tomtom and gathermate to start i guess? what else? |
| 03:10.25 | Dark_Elf | handynotes |
| 03:10.48 | Dagmar | Meh. My cartographer works fine |
| 03:11.08 | Arrowmaster | mapster |
| 03:11.10 | Dark_Elf | mapster |
| 03:12.21 | tlund | Dagmar: then you where not using its full potential back in 2.x :) sure, it still works, but alot of the modules are outdated and nonworking now. :( |
| 03:12.31 | tlund | Dagmar: even more stuff brok with 3.1.0 ptr :( |
| 03:12.56 | Dark_Elf | 3.1 breaks? |
| 03:13.02 | Dagmar | All I need it for is to show me maps and a nice red arrow |
| 03:13.13 | Dagmar | I wasn't aware that it even pretended to have more than that going on |
| 03:13.16 | tlund | Dark_Elf: does handynotes import mapnotes from other addons? it doesnt say, and people asking in comments are not getting replies. |
| 03:13.42 | tlund | Dark_Elf: cartpgrapher2 breaks with 3.1, yes, i think it was the vendors or transers module. |
| 03:13.44 | Dark_Elf | i dunno but it works well for me |
| 03:13.57 | Dagmar | There's no reason to believe that switching to another addon won't simply be trading one broken bit of code for another broken bit of code |
| 03:13.58 | tlund | trainers |
| 03:14.43 | tlund | Dagmar: kudoes to the people trying to keep cart2 updated, but its not really keeping up :) |
| 03:14.58 | Dagmar | Well, I can't really stand the look of 3 |
| 03:15.09 | tlund | Dagmar: cart3 developement has stoped aswell. :( |
| 03:15.34 | Dark_Elf | i miss cart2s quest modules |
| 03:15.37 | Dagmar | I don't see anything in the notes on curse about it doing Gatherer-type stuff |
| 03:15.43 | Dagmar | Just regular old mapnotes-type stuff |
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| 03:16.47 | tlund | ok, Mapster, GatherMate, TomTom and HandyNotes then? |
| 03:17.03 | Arrowmaster | tlund: those are not parts of cartographer anyway |
| 03:17.13 | tlund | Arrowmaster: uuh? |
| 03:17.19 | Arrowmaster | vendors or trainers |
| 03:17.24 | Dark_Elf | + handynotes modules there on wowace site |
| 03:17.37 | tlund | Arrowmaster: no, not the base cart2 package |
| 03:17.45 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 03:18.04 | Arrowmaster | only things in the base package can be considered part of cartographer2 |
| 03:18.16 | tlund | well, yeah, i guess. |
| 03:18.35 | tlund | i was refering to the "cartographer 2 suite", including external addons aswel |
| 03:18.37 | tlund | +l |
| 03:19.12 | Arrowmaster | dont |
| 03:19.21 | Arrowmaster | there is no 'suite' |
| 03:19.49 | Arrowmaster | and i fucking hate people complaining about cartographer being broken when its an external 3rd party module they are having problems with |
| 03:20.36 | Lopeppeppy | frellin' ethernet driver. |
| 03:20.40 | Thunder_Child | as usual i need something new to watch |
| 03:22.21 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5160593/man-proposes-at-legoland |
| 03:22.42 | tlund | Arrowmaster: yeah, sorry. i completley undestand how you, as a cart2 author feel about that. :/ |
| 03:23.05 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.10 | Tem | my guild is pissing me off |
| 03:23.15 | Tem | taking ages between pulls tonight |
| 03:25.08 | alestane | Night all. Good luck with the box, Peppy. |
| 03:26.33 | ZorbaBeta | tem, as a tank, I've found that things go best when the DPS (and only the DPS) is yelling for me to slow down. it's great. healers love me. :) |
| 03:26.44 | kraftman | http://www.wegame.com/watch/buffed_animation_testing/ |
| 03:26.46 | kraftman | :D:D |
| 03:27.13 | Corrodias | in situations like that, the dps players should throttle their output so they can keep going steadily, right? |
| 03:27.25 | ZorbaBeta | corrodias, yes, but many of them have never learned how |
| 03:27.29 | Corrodias | aw :( |
| 03:27.55 | Corrodias | OH NO YOU DON'T! you're not going to make playing that game sound like fun again. |
| 03:28.05 | Corrodias | get out of my head! aaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 03:28.44 | PProvost | Cairenn: given the number of oUF extensions on wowi at this point, have you considered a sub-cat for them? |
| 03:29.03 | ZorbaBeta | <random_hunter> plz wait i ned mana <me> GUESS YOUR DPS IS GONNA BE CRAPPY, SUCKS. TO. BE. YOU. *pulls another group* |
| 03:29.13 | Cairenn | there are a couple I am considering sub-cat fors |
| 03:29.42 | PProvost | Cool. |
| 03:29.45 | Thunder_Child | where is the sub-cat for the cfc stuff? |
| 03:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | *sigh* undying lost because someone sucked an ice bomb on saph >< |
| 03:30.07 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: cfc? |
| 03:30.15 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn fan club |
| 03:30.19 | Cairenn | bah |
| 03:30.23 | ZorbaBeta | nighthawk, I have a few friends that have lost undying three weeks in a row due to the *same person* doing exactly that repeatedly |
| 03:30.31 | ZorbaBeta | I have suggested that they just make him sit that battle out. |
| 03:30.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaBeta: heh, this guy's not a repeat offender, so i dont blame him. but it sucks >< |
| 03:31.03 | ZorbaBeta | at least you're in naxx, I need to get a guild :P |
| 03:31.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the undying, the 4hm, and the 8 man achievements are the only ones we have left in naxx.. |
| 03:31.57 | Olison | Adys: ping |
| 03:32.15 | Shirik | hahaha, I win so much |
| 03:33.10 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8d8c5c5e6a907ee966e4d77661af21ae.png |
| 03:33.47 | Lopeppeppy | Mean! :P |
| 03:33.48 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 03:33.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ~Shirik++ |
| 03:33.57 | Shirik | He was being mean to me |
| 03:33.58 | Shirik | he deserved it |
| 03:34.09 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone who falls for that deserves it |
| 03:34.14 | Shirik | It was my team he was leaving :( |
| 03:34.55 | PProvost | Cairenn: what is "Switch Editor Mode" supposed to do? For me it does nothing. |
| 03:35.17 | Cairenn | it should |
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| 03:35.35 | Cairenn | switch between full wysiwyg and enhanced |
| 03:35.44 | PProvost | Not in FF. Not in IE8 beta. Maybe you guys have a browser check that is stopping me? |
| 03:36.11 | Cairenn | it's just a quicker way of going to your site options, usercp, edit options |
| 03:36.13 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.wimp.com/kittybroccoli/ |
| 03:36.17 | Wobin | I can't stop giggling |
| 03:36.19 | Cairenn | it works fine for me in FF |
| 03:36.26 | Wobin | KITTY FLAIL! |
| 03:36.40 | PProvost | Cairenn: no no... on the text editor |
| 03:36.45 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, the thought of you giggleing in the first place is disturbing |
| 03:36.46 | PProvost | The bbcode editor |
| 03:36.47 | Corrodias | kittylikes veggies |
| 03:36.58 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: wAtch that video |
| 03:37.00 | Cairenn | PProvost: where? |
| 03:37.08 | PProvost | Upload page |
| 03:37.12 | Cairenn | ah |
| 03:37.12 | Thunder_Child | Wobin, i'm working on it |
| 03:37.13 | PProvost | Description |
| 03:37.14 | Cairenn | hmmmm |
| 03:37.17 | PProvost | Meh |
| 03:37.20 | Cairenn | yeah, gotcha now |
| 03:37.27 | PProvost | Doesn't work so I'll have to convert to bbcode |
| 03:37.29 | PProvost | :( |
| 03:37.42 | Wobin | PProvost: Got Noscript running or something? |
| 03:37.52 | PProvost | Was hoping it was a richtext that could take a paste from html |
| 03:37.55 | PProvost | Wobin no |
| 03:38.35 | Cairenn | we don't allow html |
| 03:38.36 | PProvost | In fact, inspecting the element with FireBug shows it has no script or links on it |
| 03:38.54 | Cairenn | but I will point it out to Dolby |
| 03:39.06 | PProvost | Would kill for textile support |
| 03:39.15 | PProvost | :D |
| 03:39.22 | PProvost | Tekkub would probably like that too |
| 03:39.26 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 03:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. I'm installing AV and then going to bed, so I'm gonna sign off now. *hugs all around* |
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| 04:14.26 | Iriel | "The most powerful surface-to-gnome missile available" .. nice |
| 04:15.41 | kd3 | o_O |
| 04:17.42 | Iriel | At least know I know what the SGM part ofthe name of the "SGM 3" is |
| 04:19.35 | Dagmar | Wait... are we getting anti-gnomic missiles? |
| 04:20.38 | Iriel | thats an item from live |
| 04:21.06 | Iriel | part of a horde icecrown quest |
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| 04:21.54 | Aznamir | Hi all |
| 04:21.59 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 04:22.10 | Aznamir | is there a list of UI changes for 3.1.0? |
| 04:22.42 | Iriel | not yet, they havent posted one, though the PTR is around so we can see the actual changes |
| 04:22.54 | Dagmar | PTR is doon |
| 04:22.59 | Aznamir | Any popup button loving planned? ;) |
| 04:23.03 | Iriel | yes, but it's installable |
| 04:24.38 | Iriel | Aznamir: you mean in the secure template stuff? |
| 04:24.44 | Aznamir | yeah |
| 04:25.11 | Aznamir | the delayed hide stuff |
| 04:25.14 | Iriel | Aznamir: none in yet, but there are some ideas percolating, so there's a decent chance, I hope 8-) |
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| 04:38.19 | Iriel | ooh.. > <function name="GetWintergraspWaitTime"/> |
| 04:38.31 | Dagmar | Whoa is that built-in now? |
| 04:38.42 | Iriel | it's in 3.1's global environment |
| 04:38.48 | Dagmar | YAY! |
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| 04:43.58 | End | ZOMG PTR 3.0.1 |
| 04:44.06 | End | mmo-champion says it is so, so it must be true |
| 04:45.01 | Aznamir | 3.0.1 is the base PTR |
| 04:45.14 | Aznamir | since it now installs independently and updates independently |
| 04:45.21 | Aznamir | don't uninstall it next time |
| 04:45.33 | End | ah |
| 04:45.36 | End | right |
| 04:45.39 | End | wait |
| 04:45.43 | End | why do we care about 3.0.1 |
| 04:45.55 | End | did they change the base client? |
| 04:46.06 | kd3 | we don't. we can laugh at bibi for botching the title, though |
| 04:46.10 | End | if they're changing 3.0.1, I don't understand Blizzard's versioning |
| 04:46.16 | End | Bibi`: I laugh at you |
| 04:46.35 | Aznamir | 3.0.1 is the Base PTR version, all other 3.0.x and 3.1.0 install automatically there |
| 04:46.58 | End | yes, I know -that- |
| 04:47.06 | End | but I don't think the base PTR version is changing |
| 04:47.10 | End | because it's an old version |
| 04:47.32 | kd3 | it isn't. he just botched the title. the patcher is called 0.1.0.9614->0.1.0.9626 |
| 04:50.00 | batrick | What is Emerald Bag? |
| 04:54.55 | kd3 | la-de-da... download faster, damn it |
| 05:01.11 | Bibi` | End: you're a retard. |
| 05:01.19 | Bibi` | and [05:43:53] <End> mmo-champion says it is so, so it must be true |
| 05:01.25 | Bibi` | I win the internet. |
| 05:01.57 | End | :( |
| 05:02.15 | End | you fixed it now |
| 05:02.19 | End | so now I don't know what to believe |
| 05:03.33 | Aznamir | meh.. 9626 downloaded, but servers are down |
| 05:03.33 | Syzgyn | FFS, we dont need more ways to get city rep |
| 05:03.38 | Syzgyn | give me my goblin rep! |
| 05:05.54 | End | I don't need either |
| 05:06.57 | Syzgyn | Shush then, you're not helping my point |
| 05:07.06 | End | l2dire maul |
| 05:07.49 | Syzgyn | thats what, 350 rep a run? |
| 05:07.56 | End | if the key drops |
| 05:08.10 | Syzgyn | and if not? |
| 05:08.15 | End | then no rep |
| 05:08.27 | End | (although you can make the costume, but that takes materials) |
| 05:08.32 | Syzgyn | yea that's a super way to grind from friendly |
| 05:08.36 | End | ewww |
| 05:08.38 | End | go do quests |
| 05:08.54 | End | you can get close to revered with the normal quests |
| 05:09.38 | Syzgyn | I'm pretty positive I've done almost all the BB and everlook quests |
| 05:09.44 | Syzgyn | and I know I did all of gadget |
| 05:09.47 | End | they leak rep |
| 05:10.18 | Syzgyn | I'm saying I doubt I have anywhere near enough left to hit even honored |
| 05:10.23 | Aznamir | I did that, only got to ~500 rep on top of revered |
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| 05:10.40 | End | dunno what you did wrong then |
| 05:10.56 | Syzgyn | My main is old |
| 05:11.01 | End | ah |
| 05:11.04 | End | mine is newish |
| 05:11.13 | Syzgyn | I had to grind the city reps up with cloth |
| 05:11.16 | End | although, my druid isn't that far behind revered either |
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| 05:13.06 | Wobin | ahah |
| 05:13.12 | Wobin | have you seen the Train Wrecker toy? |
| 05:13.17 | Bibi` | [06:03:21] <Syzgyn> FFS, we dont need more ways to get city rep |
| 05:13.18 | Bibi` | [06:03:25] <Syzgyn> give me my goblin rep! |
| 05:13.19 | Bibi` | who cares |
| 05:13.20 | Bibi` | it's not 3.1 |
| 05:13.21 | Bibi` | :p |
| 05:13.32 | End | it's 3.1 when 3.1 hits |
| 05:13.36 | Bibi` | no. |
| 05:13.41 | End | yes! |
| 05:13.41 | Bibi` | the Argent Tournament is just not part of the 3.1 |
| 05:14.00 | End | oh, you mean when it occurs |
| 05:14.04 | Bibi` | they'll probably trigger it as an AQ-like event |
| 05:14.05 | Syzgyn | It doesnt matter |
| 05:14.06 | End | I don't even know when it happens |
| 05:14.06 | batrick | getting city rep was a joke until AV became worthless |
| 05:14.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm. A second Balanced Heartseeker for my hunter, or a Venerable Dal'Rend's Sacred Charge |
| 05:14.11 | Bibi` | but the argent tournament itself will be in 3.2 |
| 05:14.55 | End | they're putting some of the bits in 3.1 though ;-) |
| 05:14.57 | Syzgyn | My statement still stands |
| 05:15.10 | End | not that it'll be unlocked |
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| 05:50.21 | jaxdahl | kd3, working on a diff? |
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| 05:51.53 | kd3 | raiding, it'll be out in a sec |
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| 05:58.32 | Thunder_Child | yes, as soon as they wipe |
| 06:01.55 | kd3 | emails out |
| 06:01.59 | End | I see. |
| 06:02.08 | Wobin | http://www.onemotion.com/flash/spider/ |
| 06:02.19 | Wobin | if you've seen that, click on the 'Curious Cat' links on the side =) |
| 06:03.08 | jaxdahl | thanks kd3 |
| 06:09.04 | Thunder_Child | DOWII is disturbingly adictive |
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| 06:16.28 | Iriel | night |
| 06:19.58 | Tekkub | wow, new begger tactic... |
| 06:20.03 | Tekkub | don't ask for money |
| 06:20.20 | Tekkub | just assume they're not going to give you money, and try to make them feel guilty for that |
| 06:21.22 | ccox | old tactic on the streets |
| 06:22.01 | Tekkub | okey, well, it's new in Sexodar |
| 06:22.14 | Tekkub | maybe you fools that hang out in Shitwind have been seeing that for months |
| 06:23.19 | Syzgyn | Ahhhh, rinsing off with a cold shower is such a nice feeling |
| 06:25.42 | kd3 | +INSTANCE_LOCK_TIMER = "You have entered an instance that you will be locked to in %d %s."; |
| 06:26.13 | Syzgyn | Niiice |
| 06:26.42 | Tekkub | I wasn't thinking lua format there (digit string)... I read that as "in <days> <seconds>" |
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| 06:36.34 | Tekkub | [Load-Bearing Girdle] |
| 06:36.41 | Tekkub | how did I never notice that name? |
| 06:38.02 | mikma | ball-bearing ^^, tekkub's favorite toy ever |
| 06:39.05 | mikma | the broken chastity belt is funny too |
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| 06:40.07 | Tekkub | so now, ret pally... two items, equal quality and ilevel, one has more str, the other has more crit |
| 06:40.12 | Tekkub | otherwise equal stats |
| 06:40.15 | Tekkub | which should I use? |
| 06:41.14 | mikma | str scales nicely with kings |
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| 06:41.41 | mikma | but does paladin benefit from str? |
| 06:41.51 | Tekkub | yea, 2ap |
| 06:42.27 | mikma | ap is always nice, brings up the white damage |
| 06:42.37 | mikma | but, so is crit! |
| 06:43.58 | Tekkub | so in the end, you're no help? |
| 06:44.38 | mikma | i personally would pick stgr but thats just me |
| 06:44.53 | Tekkub | yea I will |
| 06:45.13 | Tekkub | either way, I've whittled my 37 quest reward items down to like, 20 |
| 06:45.27 | Tekkub | <3 20-slut bags |
| 06:47.14 | mikma | so.. tekkadin lul |
| 06:49.50 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/strutsiii.gif |
| 06:51.00 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/sandbox_spectraltiger.jpg |
| 06:51.37 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/whysoserious.jpg |
| 06:51.39 | mikma | haha :) |
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| 07:04.50 | Tekkub | you *know* idiots will be buying that card off ebay too |
| 07:04.58 | Tekkub | the foam swords, that is |
| 07:05.04 | mikma | of course they will |
| 07:07.00 | nevcairiel | Anyone on Fordring EU PTR that could give me like 10k gold for testing Bartender with a freaking vendor mammoth? =P |
| 07:10.33 | Duman | hmm |
| 07:10.48 | durcyn | nevcairiel: do the frosthold or coldarra daily if you need a vehicle? |
| 07:11.02 | nevcairiel | i know it works fine with other vehicles |
| 07:11.09 | nevcairiel | but the damn mammoth is special |
| 07:11.13 | nevcairiel | people keep complaining |
| 07:11.23 | durcyn | oh. isn't the tundra mammoth changed on ptr too? |
| 07:11.28 | Fisker- | get a char on brill you scrub |
| 07:11.32 | durcyn | or is that what they're complaining about |
| 07:11.57 | nevcairiel | Did they change it to not be a vehicle anymore? |
| 07:12.15 | durcyn | that's the rumor. |
| 07:12.45 | nevcairiel | That would at least solve my issues |
| 07:12.57 | Fisker- | tailoring mount isn't a vehicle anymore |
| 07:13.06 | Fisker- | so i guess the same is true for the other mounts |
| 07:13.33 | nevcairiel | the vendor mount has buttons to boot off the passengers |
| 07:13.50 | nevcairiel | where do those appear now? |
| 07:14.13 | Fisker- | they don't |
| 07:14.19 | Fisker- | Last i heard anyways |
| 07:14.24 | Fisker- | dunno if it's fixed yet |
| 07:14.25 | nevcairiel | they have to, somewhere :p |
| 07:14.28 | Duman | jesus |
| 07:14.36 | Duman | the US ptr servers are ridiculously slow |
| 07:14.48 | Duman | woot, assertion failure |
| 07:15.11 | Fisker- | stop asserting failure |
| 07:15.38 | kd3 | this is why I'm not bothering right now. I got the patch and the diff, now I'm staying on live for a while |
| 07:15.50 | kd3 | especially since I've gotta work tomorrow and can't stay up to 5 am like I did this morning... |
| 07:18.56 | nevcairiel | it didn't crash for me for a while on the new build now |
| 07:19.36 | Duman | lol kd3 |
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| 07:20.13 | jaxdahl | collide.cpp 132 seems to be the new hotness |
| 07:21.24 | Fisker- | i'm gonna collide your ass |
| 07:23.43 | Duman | kinky |
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| 07:36.42 | nevcairiel | Any mage here? |
| 07:39.39 | Shirik | night all |
| 07:39.41 | kd3 | ya |
| 07:40.32 | Tekkub | The Chill Surrounding the Promise of Snow |
| 07:40.38 | Tekkub | best album name evar |
| 07:40.48 | nevcairiel | The blizzard freeze mobs in place proc, thats a talent right? |
| 07:40.53 | kd3 | yes |
| 07:41.05 | kd3 | gotta put one point into imp blizz, then put points into frostbite |
| 07:41.11 | kd3 | at least one point into imp blizz* |
| 07:41.38 | nevcairiel | is that like a default thing to spec for FFB mages? |
| 07:41.48 | kd3 | imp blizz gives blizzard the slowing component, frostbite lets slowing frost spells proc freezes |
| 07:41.51 | kd3 | if they're deep frost |
| 07:41.58 | kd3 | not for a 0/53/18 spec |
| 07:42.11 | nevcairiel | why do our ffb mages have that o.O |
| 07:42.32 | nevcairiel | its pretty annoying when all the fire elementals on sartharion are frozen in place when a fire wall rolls over them |
| 07:42.45 | kd3 | ^ why I'm not specced that way |
| 07:43.25 | nevcairiel | Also, one of our mages came with a deep frost pvp spec to raid and claimed he wanted to do raid support with focus magic |
| 07:43.28 | nevcairiel | we lol'ed |
| 07:44.53 | nevcairiel | I doubt his one focus magic buff did the 1k dps he was lower then usual, but thats just me! |
| 07:46.15 | Arrowmaster | +SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_60 = "You must have a lance equipped."; |
| 07:47.00 | nevcairiel | mounted fights with lances! |
| 07:50.22 | Arrowmaster | lol it seems the previous build ran UIParent.lua multiple times |
| 07:52.17 | kd3 | ya |
| 07:52.27 | kd3 | I saw that and was like "oh, that explains a lot" |
| 07:52.50 | Arrowmaster | why does the targetframe now have a cooldown frame? |
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| 07:53.07 | kd3 | buffs/debuffs? |
| 07:53.25 | Arrowmaster | those already had cooldown frames |
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| 07:58.31 | Arrowmaster | somebody fucked up and converted the Joystick stuff to use LF instead of CRLF |
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| 07:59.18 | Elkano | nevcairiel, was a PTR server selected for the EU coding community? |
| 07:59.26 | nevcairiel | i doubt it |
| 07:59.30 | nevcairiel | i used the german server |
| 07:59.32 | nevcairiel | fordring |
| 07:59.36 | kd3 | that would be me. I didn't notice about it that they added first build |
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| 07:59.53 | Thunder_Child | this may be a bit old but i found it amusing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b-fJxzpK7s |
| 08:00.54 | NightHawkTheSane | oooooooooh "Thunderstomp is now a pet talent available to any Tenacity pet. Now your bears, crocs or ESPECIALLY CRABS can join in the AE tanking fun." |
| 08:00.55 | nevcairiel | oh interesting |
| 08:01.04 | nevcairiel | they added a new instance lock static popup |
| 08:01.14 | Arrowmaster | kd3: your responsible for the crlf change? |
| 08:01.46 | Arrowmaster | oh its just in your diffs |
| 08:01.58 | kd3 | ya |
| 08:03.47 | nevcairiel | new API RespondInstanceLock() which takes 0 for deny and 1 for true, sounds like i can decide if i want to save to the instance before entering, nice |
| 08:04.07 | nevcairiel | was about time |
| 08:05.33 | Arrowmaster | actually it looks like you get a static popup after entering |
| 08:05.42 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 08:05.42 | Arrowmaster | im guessing |
| 08:05.48 | nevcairiel | but you can still click yes or no |
| 08:05.52 | nevcairiel | wonder what happens on no |
| 08:05.56 | nevcairiel | probably booted out |
| 08:05.58 | Arrowmaster | ported to GY? |
| 08:08.41 | Elkano | wow, the LFG tool got improvements, too <3 |
| 08:09.03 | nevcairiel | yeah, role choice is nice |
| 08:09.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, that is nice |
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| 08:26.48 | Adys | [2. Trade] [Wirre]: Spaceballs the Guild is recruiting /w me |
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| 08:27.30 | mikma | hmmmmmh... |
| 08:27.36 | mikma | lootrank.com builtin the game |
| 08:28.56 | NightHawkTheSane | eh? |
| 08:29.23 | mikma | like /lootrank -> dropdrop "Shaman" -> dropdown "Elemental" |
| 08:29.37 | mikma | and that would list the best items for elemental shaman |
| 08:29.47 | mikma | top 10 of each slot according to lootrank.com |
| 08:29.55 | mikma | http://www.lootrank.com/templates.asp |
| 08:30.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i know the side |
| 08:30.03 | NightHawkTheSane | site* |
| 08:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i just wasnt sure what you meant |
| 08:30.11 | NightHawkTheSane | not a bad idea |
| 08:30.17 | mikma | i was thinking should i start coding that |
| 08:30.54 | mikma | after that it would be so easy to check if the item you're about to roll is better than the one you have for *spec* |
| 08:31.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, easier. not necessarily 'so easy' |
| 08:32.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know about you, but changing one piece of gear often involves re-considering other pieces of gear as well :P |
| 08:32.34 | mikma | in my case, every item is an upgrade |
| 08:32.41 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 08:32.47 | Elkano | ok, I already managed to get the default UI broken :/ |
| 08:32.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ~fail Elkano |
| 08:32.59 | purl | Elkano, you Fail! |
| 08:33.16 | mikma | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Emerald+Dream&n=Bani |
| 08:33.26 | mikma | see? every item (well except pants) are upgrade :I |
| 08:35.45 | mikma | didn't blizzard have a tool to create GUI or so? :O |
| 08:35.57 | mikma | ah there |
| 08:36.00 | nevcairiel | Its called CreateFrame |
| 08:36.14 | mikma | actually it's called http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/EditingUI.zip |
| 08:36.33 | nevcairiel | thats not actually for creating UIs, more editing and browsing the existing |
| 08:37.00 | nevcairiel | thats where its strong, anyway |
| 08:37.33 | mikma | that'll do |
| 08:40.13 | mikma | surprising |
| 08:40.19 | mikma | exploded right to my face |
| 08:49.14 | Arrowmaster | it was written for like 2.1 or something |
| 08:49.30 | Arrowmaster | and likely ignored after that |
| 08:51.38 | mikma | aye |
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| 09:17.52 | Adys | Window manager warning: Window 0x4600009 (52% - Bliz) sets an MWM hint indicating it isn't resizable, but sets min size 1 x 1 and max size 2147483647 x 2147483647; this doesn't make much sense. |
| 09:17.54 | Adys | really |
| 09:18.48 | mikma | hmmh, handwriting these lists is a big job |
| 09:20.33 | jnwhiteh | NightHawkTheSane: yes, I do |
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| 09:22.40 | mikma | unpack(Lootrank.Shaman.Elemental.Head["1"]) -> 40516 11801 Kel'Thuzad, Naxxramas (Heroic) |
| 09:23.35 | mikma | itemID, score, drops from .. :) |
| 09:23.54 | Tekkub | I'll score you |
| 09:24.00 | mikma | woop! |
| 09:24.03 | Tekkub | ..... 8.3 |
| 09:24.05 | Kalroth | mikma gets lucky! |
| 09:24.23 | mikma | thats 2.3 more than i was hoping for! |
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| 09:29.58 | mikma | lol now that is bold |
| 09:30.10 | mikma | lvl5 character is warping in front of IF bank mailbos |
| 09:30.41 | mikma | mailboss :D |
| 09:33.20 | Adys | Legacy_SetItemRef = SetItemRef; SetItemRef = MyAddon.SetItemRef |
| 09:33.24 | Adys | ^ why wouldnt this work? |
| 09:40.52 | mikma | it should. should it? |
| 09:41.06 | Adys | doesnt seem to :( |
| 09:41.25 | mikma | you trying to hook it? |
| 09:41.51 | Adys | yeah, was working fine with replacing the OnHyperLinkShow |
| 09:42.03 | mikma | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/hooksecurefunc |
| 09:42.04 | mikma | tried that? |
| 09:42.14 | Adys | erh, its not secure |
| 09:42.51 | nevcairiel | you need to overwrite it too, secure hooking doesnt cut it |
| 09:43.43 | mikma | Legacy_SetItemRef = SetItemRef; SetItemRef = function() print("poop!"); Legacy_SetItemRef end ? |
| 09:44.09 | mikma | can't even remember stuff like that, long time since i had to hook stuff :( |
| 09:44.15 | mikma | (other than frames) |
| 09:44.31 | Adys | whats the Legacy_SetItemRef |
| 09:44.34 | Adys | for, at the end? |
| 09:44.50 | mikma | it calls the original function? |
| 09:44.59 | nevcairiel | its a syntax error! |
| 09:45.08 | Adys | thought so :P |
| 09:45.17 | Adys | yeah no i see what youmean, its what Im doing atm |
| 09:45.34 | mikma | sorry ;) |
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| 09:52.03 | mikma | hmm |
| 09:52.18 | mikma | i'm starting to think i can use anduinlothar's lib to create this addon |
| 09:52.29 | mikma | the one that adds stuff in blizz GUI |
| 09:52.33 | [draco] | "this addon"? |
| 09:52.45 | mikma | [draco]: lootrank.com listing ingame |
| 09:52.52 | [draco] | uh, nice. |
| 09:53.05 | mikma | <1029> <mikma> like /lootrank -> dropdrop "Shaman" -> dropdown "Elemental" |
| 09:53.10 | mikma | <1029> <mikma> and that would list the best items for elemental shaman |
| 09:53.12 | mikma | <1029> <mikma> top 10 of each slot according to lootrank.com |
| 09:53.33 | mikma | dropdrop :D yeah but anyway that's the idea |
| 09:53.48 | mikma | i'm typing these items, score, and drops by hand now :I |
| 09:54.33 | [draco] | uh, that's hard. no way to parse the site or something? |
| 09:54.45 | mikma | might be, but i can't code stuff like that |
| 09:56.55 | [draco] | 3.1 is gonna be fun if you release that addon |
| 09:57.10 | mikma | ya, need to update the items, again, by hand :) |
| 09:58.11 | End | wow |
| 09:58.23 | End | yeah, you really want to figure out a way to update that automatically |
| 09:58.33 | [draco] | just checked their forums, someone already asked for xml. no answer, too bad |
| 09:58.39 | [draco] | parsing xml really is easy |
| 09:59.01 | mikma | well, i can't do it so i just add the classes i play by hand :D |
| 10:00.04 | nevcairiel | Hm interesting, the latest .NET Framework update from windows update installed a ClickOnce support plugin into firefox |
| 10:00.53 | Fisker- | fuck yeah |
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| 10:03.56 | Fisker- | fuck you outlook :( |
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| 10:50.19 | Thunder_Child | Hi, my name is Thunder_Child, and i would like to give a big fuck you to Nvidia and Vista. Nvidia for creating fail drives and for vista to try to fix said fail drives AND FAIL HARDER. |
| 10:51.36 | Corrodias | what's wrong? |
| 10:51.58 | Corrodias | the early 180's had some problem, but i have been told the newest ones fix some significant issues |
| 10:52.13 | Thunder_Child | i just installed nvidias newest and now it "seems" to be crashing because vista tries to keep recovering it |
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| 10:52.28 | Thunder_Child | my old ones were working perfectly fine damit |
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| 10:52.47 | zenzio | then why did you update? |
| 10:53.14 | Thunder_Child | whenever i install a new game i usually check |
| 10:53.26 | Corrodias | sadly yeah, there's always SOME problem, sometimes worse than others |
| 10:53.42 | Corrodias | i'm still on 178 or something, with no intention of updating for a while |
| 10:53.45 | Thunder_Child | this is amusing http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=xs_gb_A29EAHRP9WPXLN?_encoding=UTF8&node=3370831&field-asin=B0002R1HVC|B0002R38XC|B0001R04LM|B0001R05KC|B0002R5Q1Y|B000EWDMRC&pf_rd_p=441937901&pf_rd_s=right-1&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1WXN51F0KTMPX5NEBZS5 |
| 10:54.01 | Thunder_Child | though sadly it seems to happen at every new patch....but i could be wrong |
| 10:54.29 | Corrodias | whoa |
| 10:55.01 | Thunder_Child | "...Gobstoppers, Grape Heads, Jolly Rancher Sticks, Mamba, Mike & Ikes, Nerds, Orange Heads, Pixy Stix, Pop Rocks, Runts, Saf-T-Pops, Slap Stix, Sweetarts, Wax Fangs, Zotz, Atomic Fireballs..." so win |
| 10:55.54 | Corrodias | aren't most of those still available... |
| 10:56.23 | Thunder_Child | specialty stores? |
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| 10:56.33 | Thunder_Child | i havent seen some of that stuff around |
| 10:56.59 | Corrodias | i don't know. gobstoppers, mike & ikes, nerds, pixy stix, and sweetarts i know i must have seen recently in mainstream places |
| 10:57.11 | Corrodias | but then i never look at actual candy in stores, so i wouldn't really know what's available |
| 10:57.22 | Thunder_Child | i havent seen gobstoppers in a while, but like you i dont go looking |
| 11:03.11 | Thunder_Child | fail lootrank, fail |
| 11:15.47 | nevcairiel | regarding that nvidia thing, i'm on 182.06 and didnt have any issues whatsoever :x |
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| 11:20.36 | Thunder_Child | X64 Vista? |
| 11:20.41 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:20.46 | Thunder_Child | then i have no idea |
| 11:21.13 | nevcairiel | I installed it because it was advertised as better performance for FEAR2 |
| 11:21.16 | nevcairiel | and i was playing that |
| 11:21.17 | nevcairiel | so shrug :) |
| 11:34.33 | Arrowmaster | ha i got into the expert portal in the quake live initation |
| 11:34.59 | Arrowmaster | it pops up a little message saying 'wow i didnt expect you to get in here' |
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| 11:45.19 | Kaso | somehow i managed to get into wowi-lounge for a second there |
| 11:47.58 | nevcairiel | until the server noticed and send you over? |
| 11:49.00 | Kaso | kicked me out |
| 11:49.04 | Kaso | i had to come over myself :( |
| 11:49.06 | Kaso | how rude |
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| 12:45.56 | Lothaer | sup guys |
| 12:46.22 | Lothaer | looks like any mod that uses more than 2 of blizz's dropdowns frames is borked :D |
| 12:56.05 | Kaso | What's the reason for that? |
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| 13:23.15 | Pup | ScytheBlade1 / Gotai - was able to get on the ptr with a new DK and SPELL_AURA_REFRESH does now have source info :) |
| 13:23.30 | Pup | however APPLIED_DOSE was the one i was after, and as yet unable to test that |
| 13:23.45 | Gotai | It doesn't have it yet, as I mentioned. |
| 13:24.07 | Pup | i thought you meant pre 3.1 |
| 13:25.04 | Gotai | Ah right, no, that post was based on the PTR. :) |
| 13:25.44 | Pup | ah k |
| 13:26.40 | Gotai | No idea if they will change it for APPLIED_DOSE, but positive thinking might help. ^^ |
| 13:26.44 | Pup | heh |
| 13:27.31 | Pup | hopefully someone will mention it again in the US interface forums |
| 13:31.41 | Adys | there we go |
| 13:31.45 | Adys | revered ravenholdt |
| 13:32.43 | Adys | 1275 lockboxes to go now, anyone wanna farm them for me? |
| 13:33.17 | Gotai | Heh, sorry, don't have a rogue. |
| 13:33.51 | Gotai | And I've still got some sanity left I think. ;) |
| 13:36.25 | Adys | whats a right price for them? each |
| 13:36.30 | Adys | Im thinking 2g each |
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| 14:05.54 | nevcairiel | Whats a recommended spec for leveling a warrior these days? assuming same level of prot and off gear (both ZA level) |
| 14:06.08 | nevcairiel | some people keep telling me to level prot |
| 14:06.20 | nevcairiel | and others disagree |
| 14:06.43 | zenzio | given you're already 70, prot isn't bad |
| 14:07.03 | zenzio | the prot tree is full of good stuff these days, you do decent damage, and you can take a shitload of damage too |
| 14:07.52 | [draco] | and you won't have problems finding groups for instances |
| 14:07.59 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 14:09.59 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/81692788 |
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| 14:14.28 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 14:15.04 | Adys | slashdot |
| 14:15.05 | Adys | "I know sensor ship is a big issue" |
| 14:15.09 | Adys | yep. |
| 14:15.39 | zenzio | what's a sensor ship? |
| 14:16.03 | Kalroth | haha |
| 14:16.10 | Kalroth | zenzio: ask google! |
| 14:16.26 | Lopeppeppy | It's like a radar ship! |
| 14:16.39 | Stanzilla | but with senz0rz |
| 14:16.55 | zenzio | http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2008-03/microsoft-practices-sensor-ship |
| 14:17.01 | zenzio | conspiracy, I tell you |
| 14:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | We knew that. |
| 14:17.32 | Kalroth | it's like a sitizen ship, just without the ceniors. |
| 14:17.44 | zenzio | :-p |
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| 14:21.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Hello Peoples. |
| 14:23.35 | Arrowmaster | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/26/0444219 |
| 14:23.41 | Arrowmaster | fucking landslide victory incoming |
| 14:24.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaaaaay browncoats! |
| 14:24.41 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if maybe they will cancel the contest before march 20th |
| 14:25.02 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
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| 14:36.11 | Wobin | that was cool =) |
| 14:36.15 | Beladona | http://wowcompares.com/0109626?diff=0109614 |
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| 15:12.04 | Maldivia | anyone on the PTR? |
| 15:12.29 | Lopeppeppy | Is the PTR on? :) |
| 15:12.55 | Maldivia | the new graphic engive changes in latest build are weird... |
| 15:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | ... *cries* My desktop wouldn't run Wrath before, is it going to die even harder with 3.1? If so, I'm just going to give up trying to fix it. |
| 15:14.09 | Maldivia | several people have mentioned their fps trippling with the new engine |
| 15:14.49 | Lopeppeppy | ... I dunno if that's good, or very bad for me. |
| 15:14.53 | Beladona | what did they change? |
| 15:15.04 | Beladona | and are you sure its the graphics engine? |
| 15:15.20 | Beladona | they made a ton of optimizations to the ui |
| 15:15.20 | Maldivia | the skybox doesn't follow the worldframe at the moment it seems |
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| 15:15.40 | Maldivia | that looks really weird :) |
| 15:15.47 | Ose | reccomend a good bank/inventory sorter addon |
| 15:15.50 | Ose | :P |
| 15:15.58 | Beladona | brb, reboot time |
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| 15:16.51 | Dark_Elf | combuctor |
| 15:17.51 | Dark_Elf | arkinventory good too |
| 15:20.57 | Ose | thanks, installing now |
| 15:22.22 | Dark_Elf | baggins is good too :p |
| 15:22.41 | Dark_Elf | cant say whats better cause they all do their job |
| 15:23.07 | Maldivia | ok, the skybox looks hilarious :) |
| 15:23.38 | Ose | testing combuctor now |
| 15:24.18 | Dark_Elf | hope ya dont mind a single bag structure |
| 15:24.33 | Lopeppeppy | I hate a single bag structure, I can't keep everything organized that way. |
| 15:24.43 | Ose | uh, I already have OneBag installed |
| 15:24.52 | Ose | maybe I should have disabled it... |
| 15:25.11 | Lopeppeppy | yeah, I think they might argue. |
| 15:25.12 | Dark_Elf | well if onebag dont do sorting maybe it time to try one of the other 3 |
| 15:25.29 | Lopeppeppy | If you're doing onebag, why not onebank too? Aren't there more modules to the One series? |
| 15:25.47 | Kaelten | yeah, I just need to work on it more |
| 15:25.56 | Kaelten | been busy with the curse client |
| 15:26.00 | Kaelten | *yawns* |
| 15:26.05 | Lopeppeppy | Kaelten makes good toys. *nod* |
| 15:26.37 | Kaelten | Dark_Elf: :P |
| 15:26.58 | Kaelten | I need to redo the plugin stuff on OB3 |
| 15:27.05 | Kaelten | thats where I was when I got sidetracked with realife |
| 15:28.05 | Ose | I never really figured out more about the OneSet than opening, closing and resizing it |
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| 15:33.36 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe next week. |
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| 15:36.37 | Ose | didn't you use to have infobot/purl in here? |
| 15:36.47 | Ose | oh right |
| 15:36.48 | nevcairiel | ~poke Ose |
| 15:36.49 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Ose, pokes Ose repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:36.50 | Ose | didn't see her |
| 15:37.01 | Lopeppeppy | She's small and hides well behind AnduinLothar. |
| 15:37.12 | Ose | purl, seen tuller |
| 15:37.16 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 16h 47m 28s ago, saying: 'one must wonder what would be the proper random reply. obviously random as a reply to random is not so much random as not random, therefore, the answer is only, "so, its windy today"'. |
| 15:37.19 | Anaral | Is anyone else having issues downloading the latest patch? It seems to get stuck at writing over patch.MPQ |
| 15:37.41 | Ose | awesome last saying is awesome |
| 15:39.53 | Dark_Elf | from what im reading that ptr crashes the servers anyways so it will probably get updated again today |
| 15:40.11 | Anaral | *nods* |
| 15:40.30 | Lopeppeppy | The PTRs often get rapid-fire updates in the first week, to hopefully leave them stable for playtesting over the weekend. ::) |
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| 15:46.56 | Maldivia | if anyone want to see the skybox bug: http://seriouslycasual.org/screens/skyboxbug.jpg |
| 15:47.43 | Lopeppeppy | Very beautiful, Maldivia... if messed up. :) |
| 15:48.45 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: the x and y coordinates for the sky box has been flipped, os if I position the world frame at 0,100 the skyframe is positioned at 100,0 :) |
| 15:49.19 | Lopeppeppy | I cropped it and I'm seeing how it looks as a desktop. :P |
| 15:49.37 | Maldivia | want the original instead? |
| 15:50.02 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hey, sure, if it's bigger! |
| 15:50.29 | Maldivia | twice the size |
| 15:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, and bring it on. My desktop has been dark and steampunk for too long now, needs more light and fantasy. |
| 15:51.54 | Seerah | user cRYTiC needs author tag removed. His cRYTiC UI was uploaded to the wow ui designer cat. |
| 15:51.55 | Seerah | mt :P |
| 15:52.03 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: http://seriouslycasual.org/screens/skyboxbugfull.jpg |
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| 16:05.36 | Jelly_ | Rawr! |
| 16:05.40 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 16:05.44 | cog|work | RAWR |
| 16:07.19 | cog|work | we scared him away :'( |
| 16:07.41 | Adys | Anyone in here who kept BC alpha/beta patches? |
| 16:07.43 | Adys | enUS or enGB |
| 16:07.48 | Adys | I need a couple of md5 |
| 16:07.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I find that I do that a lot, cog. |
| 16:09.55 | Pneumatus | Adys: which files, i may have them |
| 16:10.04 | Adys | the patches themselves |
| 16:10.04 | Adys | sec |
| 16:10.32 | Adys | 5610 5665 5666 5849 5894 5921 5965 |
| 16:10.38 | Adys | check those, those are alpha builds |
| 16:11.28 | Pneumatus | didnt have alpha, will have beta though i thinkg |
| 16:11.52 | Adys | I'm taker of any md5 you got |
| 16:11.56 | Adys | x-to-y patchers |
| 16:11.58 | Adys | enUS and gb |
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| 16:13.33 | Pneumatus | ill just md5sum *patch.exe and what you want might be in there :P |
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| 16:15.32 | Adys | yeah |
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| 16:18.25 | Pneumatus | Adys: http://ace.pastey.net/109038 |
| 16:18.49 | Adys | oh sorry |
| 16:18.59 | Adys | I meant BC beta/alpha patches |
| 16:19.01 | Adys | not wlk |
| 16:19.09 | Adys | thanks though, can use those too |
| 16:19.26 | Pneumatus | hmm, i might still have BC ones around on another disk |
| 16:19.35 | Pneumatus | i tend to clear out every so often tho |
| 16:22.19 | Lopeppeppy | Old patches are old... what is this, WoW archaeology? |
| 16:22.31 | Adys | Rebuilding my archive |
| 16:25.00 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: http://pastebin.com/d201d36c6 |
| 16:25.25 | Lopeppeppy | If this archaeology makes you very happy, Adys, than I am thrilled that people can help you out with bones and stuff. :) |
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| 16:36.20 | AckisWork | how do you do a grumpy eyes smily? |
| 16:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. Don't know. |
| 16:36.51 | Adys | >o( |
| 16:37.08 | AckisWork | that looks like an anus with a hemeroid |
| 16:37.09 | Adys | gonna patent that, brb |
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| 16:47.12 | Tem | .v. |
| 16:47.14 | Tem | _ |
| 16:51.12 | Tem|afk | what do I need a dictionary for? |
| 16:52.29 | Lopeppeppy | lern2spel |
| 16:54.22 | Wimpsy` | sorry |
| 17:07.24 | AckisWork | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/contests/fouryear/ :( today just gets worse and worse |
| 17:07.43 | Adys | why, showing off the EU gurky again? |
| 17:07.49 | Adys | oh yes. |
| 17:08.21 | AckisWork | 3 chances to win gurky for the EU peeps |
| 17:11.45 | AckisWork | Adys: are you EU or US? |
| 17:11.49 | Adys | eu |
| 17:11.53 | Adys | and I already have a gurky :) |
| 17:12.04 | Fisker- | hey AckisWork |
| 17:12.17 | AckisWork | Adys: wow really? lucky bastage :P |
| 17:12.27 | AckisWork | (gurky isn't why I was asking tho btw :P) |
| 17:12.28 | Adys | hee hee |
| 17:12.57 | AckisWork | I wished I knew someone who could get me a Murky though... right Kaelten? |
| 17:13.45 | Kaelten | :D |
| 17:14.00 | AckisWork | one day imma gonna go there and go forrest gump on your ass :P |
| 17:14.08 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:14.27 | Elkano | well, I got my Lurky ^^ |
| 17:14.38 | Fisker- | man everyone got a lurky! |
| 17:14.41 | AckisWork | I hate you all |
| 17:14.45 | AckisWork | I has a tyreal tho |
| 17:14.47 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 17:14.57 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/kettaunen2.jpg |
| 17:14.57 | Kaelten | why are people suploading stuff this much |
| 17:15.03 | Fisker- | oh yeah AckisWork ? |
| 17:15.06 | Fisker- | But i got a diablo |
| 17:15.14 | AckisWork | Fisker-: ditto |
| 17:15.41 | Fisker- | i'll rip your guts out with a chainsaw |
| 17:18.14 | AckisWork | Fisker- why do you not like me? what did I do to you ever? all I gave you was love |
| 17:18.52 | Fisker- | well i'm anakin skywalker |
| 17:18.55 | Fisker- | and you're padme |
| 17:18.59 | Fisker- | and i love you so much i want to kill you |
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| 17:23.24 | Shirik | So I think IT jacked something up |
| 17:23.31 | Shirik | I was downloading something at 8MB/sec earlier today |
| 17:23.59 | Shirik | Usually I get mad at my school's IT but I'll take that |
| 17:24.14 | |Jelly| | Sounds like Shirik has instant pr0n now. |
| 17:24.42 | Shirik | But they still throttle any website that doesn't have www in its name |
| 17:25.07 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, suckage, since mine is cms. |
| 17:25.51 | Shirik | I know, I have tons of websites that don't start with www, and I habitually type wowinterface.com not www.wowinterface.com |
| 17:25.53 | Shirik | because the www is pointless |
| 17:26.07 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 17:27.40 | Shirik | heh |
| 17:27.51 | Shirik | I'm still gloating over how I made one of the officers leave guild last night ^_^ |
| 17:27.59 | Shirik | I had too much fun last night |
| 17:28.00 | |Jelly| | orly |
| 17:28.05 | kraftman | nab question: where are the blizzard nameplates created? :S |
| 17:28.07 | Shirik | oh I think |Jelly| missed it |
| 17:28.17 | devZero | anyone know the version number that should be used for ptr in the toc? 31000? |
| 17:28.57 | Shirik | |Jelly|: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8d8c5c5e6a907ee966e4d77661af21ae.png |
| 17:29.37 | devZero | nvm, 30100 |
| 17:29.51 | |Jelly| | Shirik: roflamo |
| 17:30.05 | Lopeppeppy | Kimina is a bad monkey |
| 17:30.07 | Shirik | It was my 3v3 team he was leaving, he deserved it |
| 17:30.27 | AckisWork | Shirik: that is win |
| 17:31.57 | Shirik | I have spent some time thinking today |
| 17:32.09 | Shirik | and decided I don't relax |
| 17:32.10 | Shirik | ... ever |
| 17:32.30 | Lopeppeppy | You should, darlin'. *hug* |
| 17:32.42 | Shirik | One would argue wow is supposed to be relaxing, but my schedule really is more of school...raid...sleep |
| 17:33.23 | |Jelly| | Go buy a bottle of whiskey and then play WoW. I promise, it's relaxing...for you at least. |
| 17:33.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you strike me as one of those people who don't relax. |
| 17:33.35 | NightHawkTheSane | or rather.. can |
| 17:33.37 | NightHawkTheSane | can't |
| 17:33.41 | Shirik | I don't really drink |
| 17:33.48 | Lopeppeppy | Wow is only relaxing if it's not a second job, darlin'. |
| 17:33.52 | |Jelly| | Which will make it even better -- you're a light weight! |
| 17:34.04 | Shirik | No, surprisingly, the lady at the liquor store knows me |
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| 17:34.10 | Shirik | But I think that's because I look like I'm 13 |
| 17:34.23 | |Jelly| | Her knowing you doesn't mean you drink a lot. :P |
| 17:34.24 | Shirik | I've only been in there like twice and she said she recognized me the second time.. |
| 17:34.33 | Shirik | 3 times, sorry |
| 17:34.56 | |Jelly| | But I'm telling you, next time you raid, make sure you're good and liquored up. You'll laugh all night. |
| 17:35.10 | Shirik | More of "You'll be laughed at all night" |
| 17:35.14 | |Jelly| | ESPECIALLY if you're still a healer. |
| 17:35.22 | |Jelly| | It goes both ways. |
| 17:35.29 | AckisWork | wow is not relaxing |
| 17:35.30 | Shirik | I have a reputation to hold, though |
| 17:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | *nod* |
| 17:35.34 | AckisWork | wow is terrrrribbllleee |
| 17:35.45 | Shirik | I need to direct the rest of the healers in raid |
| 17:35.51 | |Jelly| | A reputation to hold? In WoW . . . I think we found your problem. |
| 17:36.02 | Shirik | I need to be the best! |
| 17:36.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, start training your replacement so you don't have to work so hard at it. |
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| 17:36.13 | Shirik | I am the replacement |
| 17:36.17 | |Jelly| | Being the best on farmed content isn't really .. the best. |
| 17:36.29 | |Jelly| | Level an alt or something. |
| 17:36.36 | Shirik | See here's the thing about that |
| 17:36.38 | Shirik | I am |
| 17:36.43 | Shirik | But that's not relaxing either anymore |
| 17:36.50 | Shirik | It's like... at night... "must get to 32...." |
| 17:36.54 | |Jelly| | If you're like me, you can level an alt, get it almost maxed level and then they're NERFED INTO THE GROUND! It's so relaxing. |
| 17:37.01 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:37.12 | |Jelly| | Ok NHTS was right: you simply can't relax. |
| 17:37.19 | Shirik | But I do want to make a NE druid just because they look cool |
| 17:37.29 | |Jelly| | You want to make a NE. |
| 17:37.30 | devZero | can't... or _won't_? :P |
| 17:37.35 | |Jelly| | That's a problem in and of it's self. |
| 17:37.43 | |Jelly| | its |
| 17:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | devZero: same thing, really. |
| 17:37.46 | Shirik | Horde druids look like crap :( |
| 17:37.53 | |Jelly| | Cause they're cows. |
| 17:38.01 | NightHawkTheSane | YOUR a cow |
| 17:38.02 | |Jelly| | Well, ok, so long as it's a druid. |
| 17:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE* |
| 17:38.15 | |Jelly| | I'M A BLOOD ELF! |
| 17:38.17 | |Jelly| | IRL! |
| 17:38.22 | |Jelly| | oh wait |
| 17:38.23 | devZero | lol |
| 17:38.31 | Shirik | me too |
| 17:38.41 | Shirik | I definitely fit the weight profile |
| 17:38.47 | |Jelly| | Well, I don't look nearly as gay. |
| 17:38.52 | |Jelly| | And I don't fit the weight profile. |
| 17:38.56 | |Jelly| | Shit. Orc. :( |
| 17:39.09 | Shirik | Well in all honesty I probably fit the weight profile of a gnome |
| 17:39.13 | Shirik | Just not the height |
| 17:39.41 | |Jelly| | So we need to get some meat on your bones! EAT MORE! Umm. Stop doing things that like ... work out and stuff. Umm. ionno |
| 17:40.06 | Shirik | It doesn't quite work like that |
| 17:40.12 | Shirik | no matter how much I eat, my weight stays the same |
| 17:40.20 | |Jelly| | Yeah. You're one of those assholes with a metabolism. |
| 17:40.24 | ccox | don't worry, that'll change as you age |
| 17:40.30 | Shirik | No, I'm just hyperthyroid |
| 17:40.40 | |Jelly| | Oh yeah. |
| 17:40.57 | devZero | wts metabolism... 6k |
| 17:40.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: hasn't yet for me... >.> |
| 17:41.03 | ccox | at 30, it gets annoying, but you just have to eat less |
| 17:41.06 | |Jelly| | Hey guys. I need a f-hole brush for photoshop. gogo |
| 17:41.11 | ccox | at 40, it's a pain and you have to work at it |
| 17:41.28 | ccox | Jelly - what is an "F-hole" |
| 17:41.30 | |Jelly| | I'm 24 and can't seem to lose weight no matter what I do. :( |
| 17:41.32 | Shirik | I perodically wonder, if we didn't have society to take care of our health |
| 17:41.37 | Shirik | What age would we die at? |
| 17:41.48 | |Jelly| | http://www.fineviolinsltd.com/2006Site/Old%20Violins/CM20146Radizzani/CM20146RadizzaniFhole.jpg |
| 17:41.49 | Lopeppeppy | Much, much, much earlier. |
| 17:41.55 | nevcairiel | ~40-50 probably |
| 17:41.56 | ccox | Shirk - probably around 30-35 |
| 17:42.10 | Shirik | I just wonder because as people hit 40 and start complaining about health problems |
| 17:42.13 | |Jelly| | Now the question is: What age would we die at if all safety signs were removed? |
| 17:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: what was the average age of a person when we were a nomadic tribe of apes? :P |
| 17:42.15 | Shirik | I wonder "maybe there's a reason" |
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| 17:42.27 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, Shirik. |
| 17:42.28 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Translate that to "average age" |
| 17:42.31 | Shirik | That would pull it down |
| 17:42.38 | Shirik | Hopefully most in this channel it wouldn't make a difference |
| 17:42.42 | Shirik | but since the average human is stupid |
| 17:42.49 | ccox | Jelly - you've got the image, open it in PS, use levels or something to isolate the hole so it becomes black on a white background, select, define brush |
| 17:42.52 | devZero | the lag on ptr is just harsh |
| 17:43.07 | Lopeppeppy | Being smart doesn't make you a survivor, Shirik. |
| 17:43.20 | Shirik | wrt the safety signs? Hopefully it does |
| 17:43.24 | |Jelly| | Well, my friend would have killed me already. "1000 feet to boat ramp" 1000 feet at 60mph doesn't equal a lot of time. Well, we argued this fact. lol |
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| 17:43.44 | Shirik | But here's the problem with missing safety signs |
| 17:43.48 | Shirik | It might kill off the stupid people |
| 17:43.53 | Shirik | But the smart people will intentionally get hurt and sue |
| 17:43.58 | |Jelly| | rofl |
| 17:44.57 | nevcairiel | You could just fix the US laws |
| 17:45.11 | Lopeppeppy | A lot of smart people I know will die when the zombies attack. |
| 17:45.15 | Lopeppeppy | I'm pretty sure I'll live. *grin* |
| 17:45.17 | nevcairiel | so that stupid cases like that have no chance in hell to win in a court |
| 17:45.34 | devZero | zombies + raptors = d0oM to us all! |
| 17:46.25 | |Jelly| | ccox: I luff you. |
| 17:47.01 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Kill the zombies, eat the raptors, done. |
| 17:47.25 | devZero | ok, well I'd be doomed... too many big glass windows in my house |
| 17:47.55 | Shirik | I'm not sure whether or not I'd be doomed |
| 17:48.02 | Shirik | in all honesty I probably wouldn't even know about the zombies |
| 17:48.16 | Shirik | I'd probably go to school and wonder why nobody's there |
| 17:48.23 | Lopeppeppy | I'd be fine. I have many sharp weapons. I don't have a gun, but I can outrun them long enough to go get one. |
| 17:48.24 | Shirik | ^ True story from spring break last year |
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| 17:49.02 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy would be fine because I'd have already reached the gun and tossed it to her |
| 17:49.03 | Shirik | long legs ftw |
| 17:49.07 | Shirik | Then she'd shoot me |
| 17:49.18 | |Jelly| | Dear Internet, I can't wait to move and leave you behind. - Jelly |
| 17:50.10 | ccox | Jelly - got some place I can upload the brush file? |
| 17:50.38 | |Jelly| | umm. you could email it to me, I guess |
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| 17:51.28 | Lopeppeppy | Google docs? |
| 17:52.52 | |Jelly| | So what's the best weapon, Shirik? |
| 17:53.03 | devZero | heh, 1 quest mob + lag + 10 people = wtf |
| 17:53.16 | Shirik | I like how Lopeppeppy totally didn't dispute the "Shoot me" comment |
| 17:53.23 | Shirik | |Jelly|: Best weapon is 4chan |
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| 17:54.02 | |Jelly| | I saw a car with a Something Awful sticker on it yesterday. |
| 17:54.03 | |Jelly| | STATION! |
| 17:54.33 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. |
| 17:54.36 | Shirik | STATION! |
| 17:54.37 | Lopeppeppy | I has a doorstop! |
| 17:54.43 | Lunessa | hi hi. Station |
| 17:54.53 | Shirik | So the real question is what to do tonight |
| 17:55.00 | Lunessa | Oh noes Peppy - it's an ex-computer? |
| 17:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. It's working. :) |
| 17:56.22 | Lunessa | Oh no. What happened? |
| 17:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | It works, honest, but I gave it the name doorstop to be spiteful. I wiped, it obediently re-installed, I AV'd it and left it for the night around 11. Not too bad at all! |
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| 18:00.27 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You gave me a heart attack. :P |
| 18:01.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry! I was so proud of myself I didn't think about having the ironic name. |
| 18:02.22 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 18:02.23 | Lunessa | I'm glad it's working. Is WoW all reinstalled? |
| 18:02.25 | foxlit | No POST, no video out. |
| 18:02.32 | foxlit | I wonder what I should remove first :/ |
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| 18:04.20 | ccox | (kind of like my old machine: parts, because "parts is parts") |
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| 18:04.57 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa: No, I stopped at 11pm with just the antivirus stuff in place. More programs will be added on Friday/Saturday. |
| 18:05.14 | Kazie | How do you place target name in the Above-right position and Player name in Above-left with Pitbull 4? |
| 18:05.15 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Ok, good. *kiss*kiss* |
| 18:06.16 | Stanzilla | Kazie: go to layout editor, select your layout then "texts" |
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| 18:06.48 | Kazie | Stanzilla: It's global? :O |
| 18:07.07 | Kazie | Stanzilla: I can't find anywhere to place the target and player names diffrently |
| 18:07.13 | Stanzilla | Kazie: create a layout, call it "target" and make your target frame use that layout |
| 18:07.53 | foxlit | CMOS was the answer I was looking for |
| 18:08.02 | Kazie | Stanzilla: ahh.. you can choose layouts within the specific unit tab? |
| 18:08.20 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you for the moral support, Lunessa. |
| 18:08.31 | Stanzilla | Kazie: yep. every unit can use a own layout |
| 18:08.55 | Kazie | Stanzilla: thx.. i'll try that, it's a bit confused when you just switced from P3 :) |
| 18:09.04 | Stanzilla | :) |
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| 18:15.25 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:16.55 | devZero | haha |
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| 18:28.29 | AckisWork | gah linear mathematics... can't remember first year of university |
| 18:29.03 | Lopeppeppy | maths suck |
| 18:29.14 | AckisWork | ie: A + C = D; A + S = Y... 16 equations in total heh |
| 18:29.29 | devZero | at least you went to school... I have to think back to highschool |
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| 18:31.30 | |Jelly| | Dear Internet, How how I hate you so. - Jelly |
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| 18:33.17 | Lunessa | I think, every time someone tells me on the forums that a correct solution "didn't work" I'm just going to reply with "UR DOIN IT RONG" |
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| 18:34.04 | |Jelly| | I like my response. /shrug |
| 18:37.58 | Lopeppeppy | Which thread? |
| 18:38.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I see, and I like your new desk. |
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| 18:39.39 | Shriik | My BE is like 5 times as big as you puny gnomes |
| 18:39.42 | devZero | grrrrrrr |
| 18:40.00 | Shriik | I also have the stun resist talent |
| 18:40.04 | Shriik | so nyah |
| 18:40.07 | Seerah | running start |
| 18:40.17 | Seerah | it's not a stun, it's a knock back |
| 18:40.21 | Lopeppeppy | Gnome power. |
| 18:40.24 | Lopeppeppy | Trust us. You falls. |
| 18:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | See? Knocked ya right offline! |
| 18:40.49 | devZero | speaking of gnomes, have they finally made a leash law for stormwind? |
| 18:40.51 | Shriik | oh, that's why I couldn't identify |
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| 18:41.03 | Lunessa | Peppy - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15230881169&sid=1 |
| 18:43.55 | Shirik | bestest gnomes |
| 18:44.02 | Seerah | awww |
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| 18:44.18 | Shirik | normally I don't like gnomes |
| 18:44.24 | Shirik | so be happy |
| 18:44.38 | |Jelly| | RAWR!!! |
| 18:44.40 | Lopeppeppy | *huggles* |
| 18:46.20 | Lunessa | How can you not like gnomes? I mean, in this channel - Cogwheel, Lopeppeppy, and Seerah represent Gnomeregan (I'm leaving out Sbo1, to strengthen my argument). |
| 18:46.47 | AckisWork | gnomes are wicked... they taste so good after you bbq them |
| 18:46.50 | devZero | gnomes are dirty little creatures |
| 18:46.57 | Seerah | ~lart AckisWork |
| 18:46.57 | purl | declares AckisWork a moron |
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| 18:47.06 | AckisWork | devZero: you wash them first before you cook them, sheesh |
| 18:47.26 | cog|work | 10:46 < devZero> gnomes are dirty little creatures |
| 18:47.30 | cog|work | *agree* |
| 18:47.33 | cog|work | >:D |
| 18:47.46 | AckisWork | cog|work: you're soooo dirty *winks* |
| 18:47.54 | Lunessa | Don't get me wrong, I like Sbo. I'm just saying... with three sterling examples of glorious gnomes, right here, daily, how can Shirik not like them? |
| 18:48.21 | |Jelly| | glorious. rofl. |
| 18:48.29 | Lunessa | cog|work: Your mind, gutter. It's inevitable. Come to the dark side. |
| 18:49.20 | devZero | well, last time I raided it, it was |
| 18:49.22 | devZero | :P |
| 18:49.36 | cog|work | see? dirty... |
| 18:49.46 | Lunessa | much better cog |
| 18:49.50 | Lunessa | MUCH better. |
| 18:49.55 | AckisWork | cog|work: what about me? :( |
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| 18:52.49 | Lunessa | Your glory, not so baskable. |
| 18:53.03 | AckisWork | "Canadian residents are not required to pay an Entry Fee in order to enter. Instead, Canadian residents may enter by submitting a 250 word typewritten essay comparing tournament video gaming in Canada to tournament video gaming in the United States" |
| 18:53.16 | AckisWork | do I write something serious, or do I talk about the difficulties of playing games in an igloo? |
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| 18:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | Igloo. |
| 18:54.04 | NightHawkTheSane | igloo |
| 18:55.01 | Lunessa | So, last time I went to Canada, I was asked at my entry point "Do you own a gun?" - Not "are you carrying a gun?" or "Do you have a gun in your vehicle?" Just "Do you own a gun." When I answered "Yes" my vehicle was pulled aside and searched. When they asked "Where's the gun?" I said - "At home, 2,000 miles away." |
| 18:55.28 | Lunessa | Never saw a border guards blood pressure raise so fast. |
| 18:55.55 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:56.13 | Codayus | Their own fault, really. |
| 18:56.15 | devZero | that's what he get's for being retarted and not asking a proper question |
| 18:56.17 | Lunessa | They spent 30 minutes looking for a gun because they asked the wrong question. |
| 18:56.36 | Codayus | I mean, they wouldn't remotely want to encourage people to lie to them, so they must have EXPECTED an honest answer. |
| 18:56.51 | Lunessa | Indeed. |
| 18:57.30 | Codayus | Otherwise, what's the point? And yet then they misinterpret it. It destroys your faith in humanity. :-( |
| 18:58.19 | Lopeppeppy | And I was taught to always answer exactly what was asked, so... yeah, I probably would have wound up with the same torture. |
| 18:58.53 | Lunessa | The supervisor sent me on my way, wishing me a pleasant visit to Toronto. |
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| 18:59.01 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dears. |
| 18:59.04 | Dagmar | The last time I was there they asked if I planned on stealing any music while I was there, because I had a few blank CDs. |
| 18:59.26 | Dagmar | "I have a T1 in my apartmnet. Why the hell would I fly to Canada for something I can download in 10 minutes." |
| 18:59.28 | AckisWork | wow 250 words is nothing |
| 18:59.40 | krka | or one symptom of being a programmer :P |
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| 19:00.09 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, run for your life, it's an igloo! |
| 19:00.18 | Lunessa | The entire question was "Do you own a gun?" And when I answered /honestly/ they stopped asking questions and began searching my vehicle. And this is pre 9/11/2001. |
| 19:00.20 | Codayus | krka: I think the correlation between Aspergers and programming skills are high enough enough they might as well be synonyms. |
| 19:00.44 | Dagmar | Lunessa: You gave the right answer, regardless. |
| 19:00.57 | krka | Lunessa: what happened when they didn't find one? did you get in any (more) troube? |
| 19:00.58 | Lunessa | I was amused, not put out. |
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| 19:01.04 | Dagmar | You can't be held at fault because they don't speak English. |
| 19:01.05 | alestane | An igloo? An IGLOO? WHERE!?! |
| 19:01.12 | Lunessa | krka Scroll up. |
| 19:01.41 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis has it, alestane, give him space! |
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| 19:04.28 | AckisWork | wot? |
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| 19:05.35 | AckisWork | http://mibbit.com/pb/hoi4mH |
| 19:05.51 | AckisWork | well that failed eh? |
| 19:07.14 | Lunessa | :P |
| 19:07.25 | AckisWork | :P |
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| 19:07.44 | AckisWork | read my essay though! zomg I put a lot of time, effort and research into it |
| 19:07.47 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting first attempt, needs much polish |
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| 19:09.37 | Lunessa | AckisWork: lawl |
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| 19:10.15 | AckisWork | I was limited by 250 words |
| 19:10.27 | AckisWork | I didn't even get to talk about not having enough time due to the need to club baby seals |
| 19:10.31 | Lunessa | One of the things I love most about Canada is that the vast majority of the population lives within easy television broadcast range of a US city. |
| 19:10.53 | AckisWork | Lunessa: all of our population you mean :P |
| 19:11.26 | Lunessa | AckisWork: Nah, some of you live just a bit too far away for easy reach by our culture corruption rays. |
| 19:11.36 | AckisWork | they have alaska |
| 19:12.08 | AckisWork | and even then, we get it on cable |
| 19:12.21 | AckisWork | standard cable includes abc, nbc, etc here |
| 19:12.30 | AckisWork | plus the shitty canada clones ctv, cbc, etc |
| 19:12.33 | Lunessa | And Fox. |
| 19:12.45 | Lunessa | Don't forget - you need your Buffy clones/remakes. |
| 19:12.56 | AckisWork | in some super remote places that don't get cable, all you would get is cbc, but you're prolly not a dumbass and have a sat |
| 19:12.59 | AckisWork | heh fox |
| 19:14.19 | AckisWork | even in Canadia fox is terrible |
| 19:15.36 | AckisWork | is anyone animated about the 3.1 api changes? |
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| 19:17.42 | jnwhiteh | AckisWork: what do you mean? |
| 19:17.48 | jnwhiteh | or are you making a bad pun.. just because? |
| 19:18.05 | AckisWork | making a bad bun because I can |
| 19:18.11 | AckisWork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443414368 |
| 19:18.21 | jnwhiteh | yeah, I found those already in the API scan :P |
| 19:18.39 | jnwhiteh | played a bit |
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| 19:21.17 | Adys | if xml is as bad as everyone says it is |
| 19:21.23 | Adys | why does blizz keep using it for new stuff? |
| 19:21.23 | jnwhiteh | its not. |
| 19:21.32 | jnwhiteh | people don't know what they're talking about |
| 19:21.47 | Adys | I dunno, I use a bit of xml in my addons, for the gui mainly |
| 19:21.49 | Adys | i dont hate ity |
| 19:21.50 | Adys | -y |
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| 19:22.36 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: i thought there was no real diff between doing your frame code in xml vs lua? |
| 19:22.54 | jnwhiteh | Can you validate your schema using Lua? |
| 19:22.54 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 19:23.05 | jnwhiteh | Can you have auto completion for attributes and sub-elements in Lua? |
| 19:23.06 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 19:23.09 | Dagmar | Adys: We have a word for people who have that kind of problem with XML, and that word is "iliterate" |
| 19:23.13 | jnwhiteh | Can you create templates in the same way in Lua? |
| 19:23.13 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 19:23.19 | jnwhiteh | Use the right tool for the right job, always. |
| 19:23.36 | alestane | Some layout tasks are simpler to instate in XML, even if it's possible to emulate them in Lua. |
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| 19:25.24 | Seerah | ooh! hehe : http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/february/sandbox_spectraltiger.jpg (TCG reward) |
| 19:25.48 | Lunessa | The reason some people don't like doing things in XML is that they don't want to learn XML. /shrug I learned XML long ago, and Lua came later. Right tool for the right job. *nod* (and yes, slow Lunessa is slow) |
| 19:26.00 | Dagmar | XML is stupidly easy |
| 19:26.23 | Lunessa | I agree. |
| 19:26.37 | AckisWork | eh how can you learn xml though? I've never worked directly with it :P but isn't it customizable up the wazoo? |
| 19:26.50 | jnwhiteh | Read the chapter in my book |
| 19:26.53 | jnwhiteh | there is a schema |
| 19:26.55 | jnwhiteh | this is detailed =) |
| 19:27.01 | Dagmar | I mean, I'll go so far as to say the people complaining it's hard were either dropped on their heads as a child, or have not actually spent the fifteen or so minutes it takes to grasp the basics. |
| 19:27.05 | Dagmar | Probably both. |
| 19:27.09 | AckisWork | jnwhiteh: but then I have to take said book out from under the couch ;) |
| 19:27.15 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:27.23 | Dagmar | AckisWork: How long ago did you learn HTML? |
| 19:27.46 | AckisWork | Dagmar: when it first came out, back when frames were cool |
| 19:28.00 | Dagmar | OKay so you already know the "hard" parts of XML then. |
| 19:28.16 | AckisWork | oh I can read xml and understand it, just never worked with it |
| 19:28.36 | Dagmar | It's _just_ a format for making a data structure that is easy for the computer to read. |
| 19:28.57 | Lunessa | HTML is actually an outgrowth of the same tech that gave us XML - mmmm... SGML. |
| 19:29.25 | Dagmar | "Let's be hardcore and use angle brackets instead of parenthesis because they're edgier!" |
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| 19:29.31 | Dagmar | *snicker* |
| 19:29.42 | AckisWork | yah that's what I'm saying Dagmar, it's a format, there's nothing to learn for it... it's just syntax |
| 19:29.47 | Lunessa | Well, IBM guys were IBM guys, what do you want? |
| 19:30.07 | Dagmar | Hey so long as they're not making us use LISP or Haskell I figure we came uot ahead |
| 19:30.14 | alestane | Dagmar: Actually, i think it was because people were less likely to be using angle-bracekts in the marked-up content. |
| 19:30.29 | Dagmar | alestane: I know, I know |
| 19:30.35 | Dagmar | I'm just being a bit of a smartass there |
| 19:34.08 | Lunessa | Maul is not dead - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443284486&sid=1 |
| 19:34.35 | Lopeppeppy | Really and for true? |
| 19:34.54 | Seerah | really really |
| 19:34.58 | Seerah | click the link :P |
| 19:35.05 | Kirov | must be an imposter |
| 19:35.57 | Seerah | nope - that's his toon |
| 19:36.37 | Lopeppeppy | *happy dance* |
| 19:37.46 | alestane | And one of these days maybe malreth will get his life sorted out. |
| 19:39.20 | Lopeppeppy | I sees him around once or twice, he still exists |
| 19:41.44 | AckisWork | Lunessa: I was thinking 'wot they're nerfing druids?' then i clicked the link |
| 19:42.20 | Lunessa | lawl |
| 19:43.26 | AckisWork | I wonder if I can fax/e-mail my essay in to save me the postage heh |
| 19:46.15 | Lunessa | My officemate is playing 80s tunes. It's a GOOD day to be at work. |
| 19:47.43 | foxlit | Hm, I should buy another HDD. |
| 19:47.47 | foxlit | Suggestions? :) |
| 19:48.32 | durcyn | foxlit: velociraptor, obviously. |
| 19:48.45 | foxlit | I don't want it to eat me :/ |
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| 19:49.29 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443414368&sid=1#10 - the change to Object:GetParent() from Region:GetParent() is a good thing. |
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| 19:55.51 | foxlit | So, what, they've figured out how to specify affine transforms for UI visuals? |
| 19:56.17 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: it doesn't really affect anything, does it? |
| 19:56.55 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: they didn't "figure out" how to do anything.. they implemented an animation system that is native rather than using WoW's anchoring system, for speed purposes. |
| 19:57.03 | NeoTron | hmm animation framework |
| 19:57.28 | nevcairiel | Zootfizzle: hey, can i ask a quick question about a "bug" in the combatlog events? :) |
| 19:57.28 | jnwhiteh | Its so much easier to do animation now, and much MUCH faster |
| 19:57.46 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: only in making more sense grammatically (to me). |
| 19:57.50 | NeoTron | it might indeed be something I'll look at for Magic Runes especially |
| 19:57.53 | alestane | foxlit: It's hugely faster and may make it easier to do things like slide the vehicle bar on and off the screen without suffering horrible taint issues. |
| 19:58.37 | foxlit | But, essentially, affine transforms specified in some native format? |
| 19:58.46 | foxlit | Which only apply to graphics. |
| 19:59.44 | jnwhiteh | we could already do arbitrary affline transformations |
| 19:59.50 | jnwhiteh | via setTexCoord |
| 19:59.57 | foxlit | Which only works on textures. |
| 20:00.01 | alestane | They don't affect hit rects, no. They'd have to secure them in some way if they did. |
| 20:00.05 | jnwhiteh | correct |
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| 20:00.13 | Lunessa | I was looking at some of those functions for animation and thinking about security. IE, pop up buttons that use animation to show hide and are timed based on cgd? |
| 20:00.16 | Zootfizzle | nevcairiel: What's up? |
| 20:00.26 | foxlit | Lunessa: it's nothing that can be used in that fashion |
| 20:00.42 | foxlit | What's awesome is that they can now split the visual component from the functional component without forcing that split in code |
| 20:00.43 | Lunessa | foxlit: I was just skimming, so I should read more closely. |
| 20:00.46 | alestane | Lunessa: The callbacks would have to be secure code. |
| 20:01.03 | Lunessa | *nod* Thanks. |
| 20:01.14 | nevcairiel | Zootfizzle: I saw you guys fixed the source argument for SPELL_AURA_REFRESH in 3.1, which is great already, however, SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE still has a invalid source, any chance you can sneak that fix into 3.1 too? :) |
| 20:01.21 | foxlit | (even if you animate that button off-screen, it's hit rect will still be around) |
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| 20:01.53 | nevcairiel | Lifebloom tracking is teh suck without it :/ |
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| 20:07.34 | Zootfizzle | Done, probably won't hit the PTR for a couple versions |
| 20:07.46 | nevcairiel | that was easy |
| 20:07.47 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:07.51 | nevcairiel | thanks! |
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| 20:09.56 | Lunessa | Zoot is da GNOME! |
| 20:11.14 | AckisWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.32 | Zootfizzle | Cooked your own goose :( |
| 20:11.40 | AckisWork | heh |
| 20:11.41 | durcyn | you never pour barbecue sauce on me anymore, Ackis. |
| 20:11.50 | Kalroth | Zootfizzle: Was the roc eggs any good?! |
| 20:11.57 | AckisWork | oh durcyn you like it, admit it |
| 20:11.59 | Lopeppeppy | *hungry* |
| 20:12.14 | AckisWork | Lopeppeppy: aye all this talk about bbqing gnomes is making me want to om nom nom |
| 20:12.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no you don't |
| 20:13.11 | AckisWork | oh yes I did |
| 20:13.30 | Zootfizzle | Lopeppeppy, watch for incoming corn on the cob! |
| 20:14.09 | foxlit | Zoot doesn't show up on the mmo blue tracker :( |
| 20:14.12 | foxlit | So stealthy. |
| 20:14.53 | AckisWork | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/funny-pictures-the-plan-has-gone-awry.jpg |
| 20:15.25 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks for the air-delivery, Zoot... fresh corn is such a treat in the winter! |
| 20:15.27 | Lunessa | I'm concerned about Flavor Fallout. |
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| 20:16.48 | NeoTron | can the animation system be used for resizing frames (or textures or what not)? |
| 20:17.00 | NeoTron | specifically could it perhaps be used to render bars effectivel |
| 20:18.04 | alestane | ...effectively... |
| 20:18.07 | NeoTron | ah I think Scale:SetScale(x, y) should work |
| 20:18.35 | NeoTron | a Resize:SetSize(x,y) would be nice |
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| 20:26.37 | Cairenn|afk | PProvost: ping? |
| 20:28.24 | Kazie | Can anyone tell me if there's a known bug to Pitbull 4, that it will not show target properly? |
| 20:29.31 | PProvost | Cairenn|afk: ack |
| 20:29.46 | Cairenn|afk | PProvost: re our convo yesterday |
| 20:29.54 | PProvost | Which? |
| 20:29.59 | Cairenn|afk | PProvost: go to site options, edit options, message editor interface |
| 20:30.03 | PProvost | Editor mode? Or textile support. |
| 20:30.08 | PProvost | Editor mode |
| 20:31.29 | PProvost | Okay. See that. Now the button on the editor will actually do something? |
| 20:31.55 | PProvost | :D |
| 20:31.57 | PProvost | Thanks! |
| 20:32.01 | Cairenn|afk | welcome |
| 20:32.01 | PProvost | textile ftw! :) |
| 20:32.10 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 20:32.11 | devZero | does lua have a typecasting method, or some way to take a string number and convert it to an integer? |
| 20:32.18 | devZero | for example "1" to 1 |
| 20:32.22 | PProvost | tonumber? |
| 20:32.26 | devZero | doh |
| 20:32.35 | devZero | thanks, apprently I'm not thinking.. thanks |
| 20:32.46 | PProvost | np |
| 20:33.59 | AckisWork | Cairenn|afk: is a liar! she's not afk!! ahhh PANIC |
| 20:34.06 | AckisWork | (hi btw) |
| 20:34.09 | Cairenn|afk | hi :) |
| 20:34.14 | Cairenn|afk | AckisWork: how are things? |
| 20:34.14 | AckisWork | I guess I'm a liar too |
| 20:34.18 | AckisWork | cuz like I do work hahaha |
| 20:34.20 | AckisWork | shitty |
| 20:34.21 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:34.28 | AckisWork | gf is ok though but pissing me off |
| 20:35.29 | Cairenn|afk | heh |
| 20:35.34 | Lunessa | Kazie: Pitbull 4 is still in Alpha. All sorts of bugs are to be expected. |
| 20:35.50 | Kazie | ahh okay, that's explaines a lot. |
| 20:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | That 'splains why I thought it was Bartender4 that was alpha.... At least it's something4. |
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| 20:41.40 | Wimpsy` | Hmm, i'm trying to create a 1px black border around my minimap, but it only shows up on one side, i've got minimapborder:SetAllPoints(minimap), should i use SetWidth or will that cause my border to implode? >_< |
| 20:42.00 | Wimpsy` | (Minimap) * |
| 20:44.50 | Wimpsy` | or should i use minimapborder = Minimap:CreateFrame('BORDER') instead of ('OVERLAY') ? |
| 20:47.33 | devZero | hmm, anyone know if portfolio is capable of doing different types/sizes/colors of text? |
| 20:48.30 | devZero | nvm |
| 20:48.35 | devZero | it was in the demo, I just missed it |
| 20:49.18 | Kirov | Wimpsy` - are you taking in to account the frame scale? |
| 20:49.31 | Wimpsy` | Kirov: No, i was hoping it would scale with the frame? |
| 20:49.43 | Wimpsy` | that is what i've heard about SetDrawLayer atleast |
| 20:49.46 | Wimpsy` | perhaps i'm wrong |
| 20:50.00 | Kirov | Wimpsy` - specifically, what 1 unit in the UI scales to in pixels |
| 20:50.11 | Kirov | Because it's not 1:! |
| 20:50.13 | Kirov | 1:1 |
| 20:50.25 | Wimpsy` | Hmm |
| 20:51.12 | Wimpsy` | I did it with SetBackdrop now, the problem is that it changes upon scaling the minimap |
| 20:51.17 | Kirov | The game's UI assumes a resolution of 1024x768 at all times, regardless of the resolution. Then that frame's scale and that frame's parent scale modifies that |
| 20:51.32 | Wimpsy` | i see |
| 20:52.22 | Kirov | It tries to fix itself to be pixel ratio accurate, so a 1280x720 resolution won't assume a 1024x768 resolution for the entire UI, but it's more like 1300x768 |
| 20:52.41 | Wimpsy` | I see |
| 20:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, I just read up to see who pinged me |
| 20:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | What's with the Fried Green Tomatoes theme? |
| 21:02.51 | Ose | what was the name of that standard DPSmeter |
| 21:02.58 | Ose | (the one everyone seems to have) |
| 21:03.02 | Lopeppeppy | Recount? |
| 21:03.20 | Ose | propably |
| 21:06.54 | Wimpsy` | Why wont this work? Guessing it's because of OnEnter and OnLeave :/ http://www.pastey.net/109053 |
| 21:09.42 | nevcairiel | thats wrong on so many levels |
| 21:09.50 | Wimpsy` | Yeah i figured, >_< |
| 21:09.55 | Wimpsy` | But i think i solved it now |
| 21:10.51 | nevcairiel | for one, once you've hidden the button, it will not respond to mouse events anymore |
| 21:11.05 | nevcairiel | then your code is totally disfunctional, you need 2 seperate set scripts |
| 21:11.11 | devZero | AnduinLothar: Did you build a method into Portfolio, so disable the About page? |
| 21:11.16 | nevcairiel | one for OnEnter, one for OnLeave |
| 21:11.45 | Wimpsy` | Yeah i know, i solved it by looking at one of my older addons. :) |
| 21:11.53 | Wimpsy` | Thanks anyway Nevcairiel :) |
| 21:12.57 | alestane | Wimpsy`: http://www.pastey.net/109056 nice and simple. |
| 21:13.31 | Wimpsy` | Aye but, after it's hid it wont respond to OnEnter anymore, and so i used SetAlpha instead. :) |
| 21:13.53 | alestane | Well, there's that. |
| 21:17.45 | AbsolutRayne | ;_; |
| 21:17.50 | AbsolutRayne | Bloody Gundam 00 |
| 21:17.53 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 21:17.59 | Tekkub | I knew it would happen eventually |
| 21:17.59 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7674#comments |
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| 21:18.38 | Wimpsy` | Tekkub: Rofl |
| 21:18.52 | Dagmar | Shucks |
| 21:19.20 | Dagmar | Can't remember my password there or i'd be telling him it's cool as long as you don't have any younger sisters it can sell to the arab emirates |
| 21:19.28 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 21:19.55 | devZero | a barrel of oil, and 6 camels |
| 21:20.03 | devZero | .. maybe a chicken |
| 21:20.19 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Rawr |
| 21:20.27 | NeoTron | Tekkub: what on earth would make TourGuide more "expected" to have spyware |
| 21:20.53 | Tekkub | idiots using it |
| 21:21.02 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr right back |
| 21:21.02 | ecs | o noes i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle |
| 21:21.03 | Tekkub | ask ZorbaBeta about QH's idiots |
| 21:21.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple are mentally defective. |
| 21:21.17 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: Are you goofing around on the PTR, milady? |
| 21:21.32 | Lopeppeppy | Not a chance, AbsolutRayne. |
| 21:21.55 | Lopeppeppy | I might get there next week, but I prefer a stable iteration to the hair-pulling I hear everyone else doing. I can wait. |
| 21:22.05 | AbsolutRayne | mkay |
| 21:22.13 | AbsolutRayne | Im looking for people using my UI that are also on the PTR |
| 21:22.25 | AbsolutRayne | want to know if anything breaking, and if I should prepare a new release |
| 21:22.36 | Lopeppeppy | When/if I get on there, I'll give ya feedback. |
| 21:22.49 | AbsolutRayne | kk |
| 21:23.29 | AbsolutRayne | Granted |
| 21:23.35 | AbsolutRayne | The PTR will be up for a month or two |
| 21:23.52 | ZorbaBeta | yeah I see comments all the time asking if QH has viruses or not |
| 21:24.00 | ZorbaBeta | hell, sometimes people just come out and say "do not use questhelper, it has spyware!" |
| 21:24.09 | Tekkub | Cairenn, your sticky on the o.forum needs a section about security |
| 21:24.10 | devZero | AbsolutRayne: even if it works 100%, it will be marked as out of date unless you change the version in the toc to 30100 |
| 21:24.20 | ZorbaBeta | I half-wonder if there's some group out there intentionally spreading disinformation :P |
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| 21:24.32 | AbsolutRayne | Its a compilation <_< |
| 21:24.40 | devZero | nvm then :) |
| 21:24.47 | Tekkub | it's not intentional Zorba, they're just idiots |
| 21:25.07 | AbsolutRayne | Yay, another Talent Calc update, no Prot Warrior changes -_- |
| 21:25.15 | Tekkub | the people that don't use addons becaue they think they're against the rules or have keyloggers |
| 21:25.16 | Lopeppeppy | Patience, grasshopper |
| 21:25.17 | AbsolutRayne | I might invest in my Rogue full time :/ |
| 21:25.23 | ZorbaBeta | tekkub, well, it's an area that some people are trying to make money in, and it's oddly consistent. I'm probably being paranoid, but, hey |
| 21:25.53 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone else 'meh' about this Argent Tournament thing? |
| 21:26.06 | Tekkub | they make plenty of money, they don't need to undermine the free guides and addons |
| 21:26.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'm meh about all PVP |
| 21:26.22 | Tekkub | if they get desperate, yea sure |
| 21:26.27 | ZorbaBeta | tekkub, I didn't mean Blizzard :P |
| 21:26.37 | Tekkub | I'm not talking about blizzard |
| 21:26.59 | NeoTron | remember how some douche put up a "wowace updater" on ui.worldofwar.net some time ago? people are using that incident to say that wowace updater was spyware :P |
| 21:27.01 | ZorbaBeta | *shrug* if you meant other people . . . "plenty", for many, isn't as good as "more". |
| 21:27.29 | Lopeppeppy | It's now time for all good Peppygnomes to go home. I'm tired! |
| 21:27.33 | NeoTron | b |
| 21:27.35 | Tekkub | yea, who the hell knows |
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| 21:27.43 | Lunessa | bye peppy |
| 21:27.56 | Tekkub | I just assume idiocy in most cases |
| 21:28.17 | Tekkub | idiots aren't very good at being sneaky, they're usually blatently obvious |
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| 21:30.26 | AbsolutRayne | I do like how its taken them 3 years to put in Faction Tabards :/ |
| 21:31.17 | selckin | me too, they have good priorities |
| 21:32.01 | AbsolutRayne | Also want to know if the banners serve a purpose. Or if theyll be like that one from the Zombie invasion that basically did nothign |
| 21:35.50 | AnduinLothar | devZero: read the comments on wowi |
| 21:36.51 | Lunessa | AbsolutRayne: I still have that banner, and I love it. |
| 21:37.24 | AbsolutRayne | I have the full plate Recolored Pali T2 on my Warrio |
| 21:37.25 | AbsolutRayne | r |
| 21:37.47 | Lunessa | I just deleted all the Invasion armor - my bank was just too full. |
| 21:38.28 | Syzgyn | Hm, I see that the PTR connection issue are still there :\ |
| 21:40.45 | Dagmar | Lunessa: ODd. I deleted it because it would never ever compete with even the crafted epics at 80 |
| 21:41.24 | Dagmar | "Hmm... I lose ~1,100 attack power but gain 2% more damage to undead?" |
| 21:41.32 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Of course, I was keeping it for nostalgia and bragging rights. But storage != infinite. |
| 21:41.33 | Syzgyn | A good trade! |
| 21:41.53 | WhiteWolf | that's what having personal guild bank(s) are for |
| 21:42.01 | Dagmar | Well, if they ever make a use for that stuff I'll be one of the first howling on the forums about why they're doin' us like that |
| 21:42.13 | Dagmar | WhiteWolf: Good luck sticking soulbound items in there |
| 21:42.29 | WhiteWolf | Dagmar: keep the soulbound items on your person, but all the mats etc go nicely in the bank |
| 21:42.32 | Dagmar | If they weren't soulbound, they'd be sitting in my bouncemail alt's box |
| 21:42.37 | Lunessa | WhiteWolf: I have one of those, but Soulbound = Soulbound |
| 21:42.54 | WhiteWolf | i can't possibably fill my personal bank and my guild bank |
| 21:42.58 | Dagmar | WhiteWolf: Clearly you've not been playing this game long if you think it's feasible to keep soulbound items on you |
| 21:43.21 | WhiteWolf | Dagmar: i misspoke, i meant in personal storage |
| 21:43.46 | Dagmar | I've been playing since release. 3/4 of that is already soulbound items |
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| 21:44.59 | WhiteWolf | i found that no matter how long i played, the increasing bag sizes always mean i have enough personal bank |
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| 21:46.16 | Syzgyn | My bank is full of legacy gear |
| 21:47.13 | Esamynn|Work | as is mine :( |
| 21:47.23 | Esamynn|Work | it is becoming a problem |
| 21:47.30 | NeoTron | IO just remove my old gear |
| 21:47.36 | Dagmar | You don't collect the holiday stuff |
| 21:47.37 | NeoTron | notlike I woul ever use it |
| 21:47.48 | Dagmar | Having the pets out of there helped |
| 21:47.50 | Esamynn|Work | aye, but it's a record of achomplishments! |
| 21:47.54 | Esamynn|Work | hey, there's an idea |
| 21:47.56 | devZero | AnduinLothar: thanks, I've just disabled the About code completely |
| 21:48.09 | Esamynn|Work | there should be an achivement type list of your old epic gear |
| 21:48.22 | Esamynn|Work | maybe with the ability to remove items from it that you don't care about |
| 21:48.38 | Esamynn|Work | or the ability to choose what goes onto it in the first place |
| 21:48.38 | Dagmar | Esamynn|Work: Think for a moment... about the screaming on the forums about all the old gear that was never tracked |
| 21:48.52 | Esamynn|Work | same thing happened for achievements :P |
| 21:48.56 | NightHawkTheSane | or the impossibility of getting t3 |
| 21:49.02 | Thunder_Child | everyone is doing the old stuff anyway |
| 21:49.33 | Esamynn|Work | they are worried about space, so they could provide like 100 "slots" or something, and you choose what you keep in it |
| 21:49.49 | Esamynn|Work | with the caveat that removal is permanent deletion |
| 21:50.12 | durcyn | or a stopgap like craftable 40-slot bank-only bags |
| 21:50.22 | durcyn | since i doubt we'll see player housing with armor stands and such any time soon |
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| 21:51.13 | WhiteWolf | could also make soulbound not limit mailing |
| 21:51.35 | Esamynn|Work | that would somewhat defeat the purpose of SOULBOUND |
| 21:51.44 | Esamynn|Work | they already added bind to account |
| 21:51.47 | alestane | I've wanted for a log time to be able to get Bank-by-mail slip to send stuff to my own bank. |
| 21:52.05 | WhiteWolf | not really... i didn't say anything about being able to equip it or enchant it on another character |
| 21:52.36 | Esamynn|Work | WhiteWolf: oh god, that could end up being a nightmare to implement |
| 21:52.42 | WhiteWolf | Esamynn|Work: i agree |
| 21:54.24 | WhiteWolf | Esamynn|Work: i suspect that foundation for such a system exists though, since we have the crafted by attribute right now |
| 21:54.43 | Esamynn|Work | aye, true |
| 21:54.54 | Esamynn|Work | but imagine how much more DB space they'd need? |
| 21:55.14 | WhiteWolf | assuming they'd index it by whatever unique identifier they use for chars now |
| 21:55.17 | Esamynn|Work | rather than a boolean flag for each item instance, they have to record the guid of the char it is bound to |
| 21:56.05 | WhiteWolf | something they don't seem to mind doing for crafted items, interestingly enough |
| 21:57.22 | Wimpsy` | PProvost: Nice oUF Layout. :) |
| 21:57.53 | Esamynn|Work | WhiteWolf: next you have to consider what happens on account/server transfer |
| 21:58.02 | Esamynn|Work | or anything else that changes a character's GUID |
| 21:58.25 | durcyn | "Crafted by" doesn't use GUID |
| 21:58.26 | foxlit | meh, magic happens. |
| 21:58.36 | Esamynn|Work | durcyn: you know what I mean :P |
| 21:58.59 | durcyn | Esamynn|Work: yeah, i do. and transfers would break his suggestion pretty thoroughly. |
| 21:59.25 | foxlit | his suggestion being "store which character can equip this item"? |
| 22:00.12 | Esamynn|Work | also, I don't think they're really all that fond of the use of alts for item storage |
| 22:00.19 | Aqua | Has anyone figured out how to pull data from the statistics panel? I been digging through the wow api and found a function but its undocumented. |
| 22:00.33 | foxlit | Aqua: everything is undocumented. |
| 22:00.39 | foxlit | (until it's documented :) ) |
| 22:00.42 | Esamynn|Work | ^ |
| 22:00.47 | Aqua | you know what i meant... |
| 22:00.57 | Aqua | or maybe you didn't |
| 22:00.59 | foxlit | Then you know what I meant. |
| 22:01.01 | Esamynn|Work | Aqua: so poke it until you figure it out |
| 22:01.03 | foxlit | Go look at framexml :) |
| 22:01.04 | Lunessa | In other words - try it out, and then write down what you learn. |
| 22:01.32 | Aqua | see, thats the thing, i looked the achievements xml stuff and its either completely over my head, or its eluding me |
| 22:03.08 | Zootfizzle | Ask! |
| 22:03.17 | Zootfizzle | I have it on good authority that someone in this channel probably knows the answer >_> |
| 22:03.36 | Esamynn|Work | Zootfizzle: nah, no one here actually knows anything :P |
| 22:03.44 | Zootfizzle | What data, Aqua? |
| 22:04.25 | Aqua | i just want to pole the data for what bosses from each expansion haven't been killed |
| 22:04.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn|Work: wouldn't knowing that no one here knows anything be.. knowing something? |
| 22:04.48 | NightHawkTheSane | poll* |
| 22:04.49 | Esamynn|Work | touche |
| 22:04.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i doubt you really want to 'pole' it. |
| 22:05.29 | Aqua | bad choice of wording |
| 22:05.43 | foxlit | So achievements rather than statistics, or is there an actual "times you killed kel'thuzad" stat? |
| 22:05.50 | Aqua | yea, there is |
| 22:06.08 | Aqua | There is a "Kel'thuzad Kills" |
| 22:06.11 | Esamynn|Work | there's a Deaths to Hogger STAT! :P |
| 22:06.21 | kd3 | deaths from hogger! |
| 22:06.28 | Esamynn|Work | that's what I meant |
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| 22:07.23 | Zootfizzle | Those use GetAchievementInfo, Aqua |
| 22:07.33 | Zootfizzle | It's a bit confusing :P |
| 22:08.22 | foxlit | AchievementFrameStats_Update in Blizzard_AchievementUI/Blizzard_AchievementUI.lua for usage |
| 22:08.55 | foxlit | ... and more functions. :( |
| 22:09.05 | Thunder_Child | now now Zootfizzle, dont give it away |
| 22:09.07 | Aqua | i looked over that 10 times |
| 22:09.18 | Aqua | been at this too long |
| 22:09.19 | Aqua | thanks guys |
| 22:09.22 | devZero | is there a lua equivalent to perls ||= ? |
| 22:09.41 | Esamynn|Work | ||= ? |
| 22:09.49 | Maldivia | a = a or b; ? |
| 22:09.56 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/multi.jpg |
| 22:09.58 | devZero | hmm, k I'll give that a try, thanks |
| 22:10.09 | foxlit | Esamynn|Work: logical and combined with assignment |
| 22:10.29 | Esamynn|Work | ... |
| 22:10.55 | foxlit | Here's what I see: |
| 22:11.01 | foxlit | id = GetAchievementInfo(category, index) |
| 22:11.05 | Maldivia | I would assume it's the same shorthand as "a += b" is " a = a + b" |
| 22:11.11 | foxlit | quantity = GetStatistic(id) |
| 22:11.17 | Lunessa | mikma: Bad ass |
| 22:12.09 | foxlit | So you'd need to know the category and index of that kel'thuzad kills stat. |
| 22:12.15 | NightHawkTheSane | http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=28157 |
| 22:12.17 | NightHawkTheSane | BACON!! |
| 22:13.21 | alestane | "a = a or b" establishes b as a default value for a, basically. I don't know perl very well. |
| 22:14.05 | Maldivia | alestane: ||= is just a logical assignment operator |
| 22:14.30 | Esamynn|Work | what I'm wondering is what you get from just GetAchievementInfo(category) |
| 22:14.32 | Maldivia | alestane: like you would use += for arithmetic |
| 22:14.51 | foxlit | Esamynn|Work: category name, number of achievements in it, stuff like that? |
| 22:14.58 | Esamynn|Work | ahh, probably |
| 22:15.13 | foxlit | Is none of this really up on wowwiki? |
| 22:15.20 | Esamynn|Work | dunno, I haven't looked ;) |
| 22:15.44 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetStatistic |
| 22:15.48 | foxlit | seems to be there |
| 22:15.58 | Esamynn|Work | it's an interesting exercise to see what you can derive from the FrameXML code alone, without having the game handy |
| 22:16.03 | alestane | Well, right, but the exact effect of that is going to depend on how perl handles short-circuiting, values passed through logical expressions, etc. Is a || b equivalent to b if a is false, or does the expression equate to a true-false swing? |
| 22:16.27 | WhiteWolf | why dont you test |
| 22:17.08 | Maldivia | alestane: true/false |
| 22:17.33 | alestane | I don't test because someone else raised the question and I personally don't care about perl. |
| 22:17.54 | Maldivia | alestane: or well, everything expect null and 0 are true for perl |
| 22:17.54 | Lunessa | alestane: I used to code in perl and I don't care about perl |
| 22:18.03 | Maldivia | alestane: so basically the same as lua |
| 22:20.10 | WhiteWolf | well, if you're not going to test... a || b, if !a, b... in perl |
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| 22:21.30 | alestane | Then yes, it would be about equivalent. |
| 22:22.26 | Maldivia | the exception being that perl see 0 as false |
| 22:23.08 | Maldivia | perl: print(0 || 1) => 1, lua: print(0 or 1) => 0 |
| 22:23.26 | Ullas | Is there a program that can parse a current WDB file like itemcache? Everything I've found is out of date. |
| 22:23.57 | Ullas | This is for a stand alone program |
| 22:24.08 | Maldivia | Ullas: may I ask what you're interested in, in that file ? :) |
| 22:25.44 | Shirik | I have to echo Maldivia's question, Ullas |
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| 22:26.47 | Ullas | Sorry I answered in a pm. I need chance on hit spell ids. |
| 22:27.10 | Maldivia | http://www.wowhead.com/?search=increased+hit <-- there you go |
| 22:27.22 | Shirik | it is advisable not to use PMs for public questions |
| 22:27.23 | Maldivia | ohh procs |
| 22:27.39 | Shirik | IRC is a public resource |
| 22:27.40 | Maldivia | I read it as increased chance to hit :) |
| 22:28.26 | Aqua | (warning sarcasm) IRC has a PM? |
| 22:28.29 | Ullas | Wowhead XML doesn't give me this info, nor armory. |
| 22:28.38 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Aqua |
| 22:28.38 | purl | overclocks Aqua until Aqua burns out |
| 22:28.40 | Maldivia | wowhead does |
| 22:29.19 | Ullas | Not the spell id mal. I wish it did. |
| 22:29.58 | Esamynn|Work | no, it just evaporates :P |
| 22:30.07 | Aqua | damn right it does |
| 22:30.25 | Esamynn|Work | ~whalenuke Aqua |
| 22:30.26 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Aqua with his mind powers. |
| 22:30.50 | foxlit | grr, PTR reverting to ELP packs isn't fun :/ |
| 22:31.17 | Aqua | jese, thanks |
| 22:31.19 | Esamynn|Work | ELP? |
| 22:31.21 | Aqua | i'm so radioative |
| 22:31.45 | nevcairiel | ELP = European Language Packs |
| 22:31.48 | foxlit | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/faq/elp.html :) |
| 22:32.03 | nevcairiel | But how did it revert? |
| 22:32.08 | nevcairiel | Mine just installed both languages |
| 22:32.16 | nevcairiel | well the default language was wrong, but thats like one click |
| 22:32.23 | foxlit | nevcairiel: yes. |
| 22:32.24 | Maldivia | Ullas: use another provider than wowhead then, if they don't haev it in their xml format :) |
| 22:32.31 | foxlit | But the new integrated launcher/updater won't let you do that while downloading |
| 22:32.38 | Esamynn|Work | ELP packs = European Language Packs packs? :P |
| 22:32.42 | Shirik | ^ |
| 22:33.29 | foxlit | department of redundancy department :) |
| 22:33.42 | Maldivia | or chance an existing parser to be parse the data for you |
| 22:33.53 | Ullas | That would involve HTML scraping = really slow. I'd rather try to match spell to tooltip text. |
| 22:34.10 | Ullas | Which is inaccurare |
| 22:34.24 | foxlit | what are you _actually_ doing? :) |
| 22:34.27 | Ullas | Inaccurate* |
| 22:35.06 | Maldivia | Ullas: allakhazam has full xml info, example: http://wow.allakhazam.com/cluster/item-xml.pl?witem=19019 |
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| 22:35.45 | Ullas_ | Really slick raid simulator. Www.wow-sim.com |
| 22:35.51 | Maldivia | just to repeat, as it seems you D/C'ed, Ullas: allakhazam has full xml info, example: http://wow.allakhazam.com/cluster/item-xml.pl?witem=19019 |
| 22:36.42 | Ullas_ | Sweet ty! That's perfect. |
| 22:37.31 | Dewin | Is that from parsing the item cache? |
| 22:38.01 | Dewin | That's what it looks like, judging by all the 'unknown' fields. |
| 22:40.12 | devZero | ok.. I have 2 saved variables, I've got an init function that runs as soon as the addon is loaded, but it's saying on of my variables is nil |
| 22:40.29 | devZero | which, if i do a /dump MyAddOnSettings I get a result back |
| 22:40.36 | Dewin | don't you need VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 22:40.56 | devZero | k, that's what I thought.. let me check the existing code to see if it's being called |
| 22:41.22 | Dewin | Just don't listen to me too much, you might be following a blind man off a cliff. |
| 22:41.34 | Dewin | *casts Slowfall* |
| 22:41.38 | devZero | do I get a parachute? |
| 22:41.50 | Maldivia | after the ADDON_LOADED event with your addon name as argument, the addon's saved variables are available |
| 22:44.30 | devZero | well, from what I can see the previous author is calling this function using the OnLoad element in the XML file |
| 22:44.51 | devZero | I assume this isn't good enough |
| 22:46.07 | nevcairiel | oh hey first Ulduar tests |
| 22:46.37 | WhiteWolf | i'd rather just wait |
| 22:47.18 | devZero | servers are too unstable to try and get into Ulduar |
| 22:47.26 | kd3 | no wonder the realms are horrible right now |
| 22:47.33 | devZero | let alone to actually test content |
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| 22:48.10 | Dewin | I couldn't even get into Uldaur yesterday |
| 22:48.16 | Dewin | said I needed a raid group when I had one |
| 22:48.18 | Aqua | I can't get on the ptr at all |
| 22:48.27 | kd3 | dewin; that's because they had ulduar closed yesterday |
| 22:48.29 | Aqua | so don't feel bad |
| 22:48.29 | Dewin | I got lucky and caught character copies when they were up. |
| 22:48.38 | Dewin | kd3: Ah. Misleading error message ftl |
| 22:48.51 | kd3 | not that "the instance is closed" is a common problem on live realms... |
| 22:49.27 | Dewin | I can just imagine it, a small wooden sign outside an instance saying "Closed for Remodelling -- The Mgmt" |
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| 22:55.29 | mikma | i think i'm turning into a emo... two nights in a row i have been awaken in the fact i am hugging a pillow |
| 22:56.14 | Cidan | uhm |
| 22:56.27 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.32 | Cidan | ...what. |
| 22:56.32 | Corrodias | you poor man/woman/thing |
| 22:56.41 | Cidan | Why would you animate things in such a way that... |
| 22:57.16 | Cidan | I mean, affine transformations on any region is nice but... |
| 22:57.26 | mikma | the most interesting thing my wife is sleepping next to me O_o |
| 22:57.40 | mikma | thing is* |
| 22:58.08 | mikma | hug-a-licious |
| 22:58.18 | Tekkub | http://www.ocregister.com/photos/orc-alert-foot-2318309-orc-on/pid2318367 |
| 22:58.22 | Tekkub | orc penetration! |
| 22:59.14 | mikma | aw |
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| 23:37.53 | Maldivia | holy lag fest, that is dalaran on ptr... |
| 23:38.04 | kd3 | dalaran is not a place you should consider being |
| 23:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.48 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: btw, I take it you get your standard multimedia codecs from rpmfusion? |
| 23:48.30 | devZero | when setting a button texture using xml, say for a minimap button.. what is the path relative to? I've got Interface\AddOns\MyAddOn\MyAddon in there now to point to the MyAddOn.tga file in my addon root folder |
| 23:48.31 | Lunessa | Our Dalaran, who art on the PTR, hallowed be thy lag. |
| 23:50.36 | Esamynn|Work | devZero: I take it that isn't working (it should) |
| 23:50.46 | Arrowmaster | devZero: if your image isnt working check http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15439 and make sure the image is compatible |
| 23:51.19 | Esamynn|Work | devZero: are your texture's borders both an exponent of 2? |
| 23:51.22 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: the images in that post don't work |
| 23:52.05 | devZero | the overlay shows up, everything works.. except the actual background texture |
| 23:52.20 | devZero | it's a green color, which leads me to beleive it's the image that's not working, but I wanted to double check |
| 23:52.25 | Esamynn|Work | devZero: as I said, check your image file |
| 23:52.40 | jnwhiteh | devZero: are you specifying this in XML or Lua? |
| 23:52.44 | devZero | XML |
| 23:52.47 | jnwhiteh | if its in Lua you need to escape the backslashes |
| 23:52.48 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 23:52.53 | devZero | in Lua it worked fine, but I moved it to XML |
| 23:53.01 | Wimpsy` | is there a OnInitialize() ? |
| 23:53.02 | jnwhiteh | Do you use \\? |
| 23:53.09 | devZero | nope, just \ in the xml |
| 23:53.33 | jnwhiteh | That's bizarre.. if it worked when doing it in Lua |
| 23:53.37 | jnwhiteh | mind pasteying the code? |
| 23:53.49 | devZero | gimme 2 sec, I'll paste the xml |
| 23:54.50 | Adys | going through the AQ questline for a friend |
| 23:54.55 | Adys | it just hit me |
| 23:55.03 | Adys | "Only One May Rise" |
| 23:55.17 | devZero | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/109073 |
| 23:55.29 | Esamynn|Work | Adys: everyone can loot the head now |
| 23:55.36 | Adys | I know it's what strikes me |
| 23:55.39 | Esamynn|Work | ahh |
| 23:55.41 | Esamynn|Work | yes ;) |
| 23:55.45 | Adys | "Only One May Rise (And Anyone Within 12 Hours Too)" |
| 23:55.46 | devZero | I forgot to change the patch.. I was testing w/ the Dominos tga file |
| 23:56.02 | devZero | path* |
| 23:56.23 | jnwhiteh | and does that work? |
| 23:56.41 | jnwhiteh | if so, there's a problem with your texture or the placement of the file |
| 23:56.45 | devZero | yes |
| 23:56.59 | devZero | here'es the same code w/ my path http://wowuidev.pastey.net/109074 |
| 23:57.30 | Esamynn|Work | the correct path is sort of imporant |
| 23:57.33 | Esamynn|Work | just, kinda sorta... |
| 23:58.02 | devZero | I know the path is right, does the image have to be a tga? |
| 23:58.11 | kd3 | Adys, pre-2.0, the broodlord's head had the flavor text "Only ONE may rise and only ONE may loot this head" |
| 23:58.14 | kd3 | >.> |
| 23:58.15 | Adys | I know |
| 23:58.24 | Adys | I was the ONE who .. didn't get to loot it |
| 23:58.33 | Adys | then hyperion regretted badly |
| 23:58.36 | Adys | because I was human |
| 23:58.37 | Adys | he was nelf |
| 23:58.43 | Adys | way to go farm 42k rep |
| 23:58.58 | Esamynn|Work | devZero: TGA or BLP |
| 23:59.09 | devZero | I'll try a BLP then |
| 23:59.25 | Esamynn|Work | BLP is a Blizz format, you generally need a special conversion program |
| 23:59.44 | devZero | oops, I was thinking of a bitmap |
| 23:59.50 | Esamynn|Work | I don't know of any general graphics programs that support it |
