| 00:04.36 | kamdis | NeoTron: thanks |
| 00:08.04 | mikma | roflcopter |
| 00:08.35 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: the openid login on support.github.com sucks |
| 00:08.37 | mikma | hunter multishots mobs in kel'tzu phase1 |
| 00:08.59 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, http://help.tenderapp.com/discussion/new |
| 00:09.11 | Tekkub | not our shit, we don't do openid :P |
| 00:09.25 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt think my openid is a openid |
| 00:11.43 | Arrowmaster | i hate sites that try to do openid, fail horribly, and dont have any info at all about their openid implementation |
| 00:13.06 | Shirik|Ecole | BAH! |
| 00:13.10 | Shirik|Ecole | I have determined the bug is not my fault |
| 00:13.20 | Shirik|Ecole | Thus, I leave with a feeling of accomplishment for today |
| 00:13.22 | Shirik|Ecole | bibi |
| 00:13.52 | Arrowmaster | Bibi is going to kill you for the constant highlights |
| 00:13.56 | Bibi | yeah. |
| 00:14.01 | Bibi | that's what he was thinking. |
| 00:14.48 | Shirik|Ecole | oh wow |
| 00:14.53 | Shirik|Ecole | sorry >< |
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| 00:16.08 | NeoTron | and he's always damn fast |
| 00:16.13 | NeoTron | I bet he's a robot |
| 00:16.20 | Shirik|Ecole | I am committing code at a rate of 37 bytes per second |
| 00:16.24 | Shirik|Ecole | our school's network is so messed up |
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| 00:19.27 | Shirik|Ecole | svn gurus: If I have a svn conflict and I want to wipe out the other person's changes, I just take the "foo" file and replace it with "foo.r76" right? |
| 00:19.37 | Shirik|Ecole | where r76 is the latest version |
| 00:20.55 | Shirik|Ecole | hm no, nm |
| 00:21.03 | Shirik|Ecole | I leave the "foo" that's there and just mark it resolved? |
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| 00:33.59 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/75310773 |
| 00:34.18 | Adys | Shirik: you leave svn and use something decent like bzr instead |
| 00:35.42 | Adys | bibi. |
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| 00:38.38 | cloudwolf | What would I have a frame look for to find if a key pressed is equal to C? |
| 00:40.01 | Gngsk | in an editbox or like a keybinding? |
| 00:40.10 | cloudwolf | key binding |
| 00:40.17 | cloudwolf | like how C opens up the character panel |
| 00:40.19 | Shirik | Adys: Bad! |
| 00:40.24 | Shirik | svn is amazing |
| 00:40.30 | Gngsk | you have to set the keybinding to click the frame |
| 00:40.31 | Adys | isnt |
| 00:40.36 | Adys | cloudwolf: set a keybinding up to fire a function |
| 00:40.54 | cloudwolf | does that have to be done manualy ingame or can it be done through the addon? |
| 00:40.59 | Adys | through the addon |
| 00:41.05 | Gngsk | or manually :D |
| 00:41.31 | Gngsk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html |
| 00:41.40 | Adys | Shirik: the only good thing about svn over bzr is speed |
| 00:41.42 | Gngsk | check the section where he shows 'run SetBindingClick()' |
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| 00:42.38 | Adys | Shirik: i used to be a svn fan, i noticed it was only because it was so simple I never bothered looking for something else. Then I found out how much crap i had to deal with when you had stuff occuring like conflicts, moves, and so on |
| 00:42.48 | Shirik | svn conflicts are easy to deal with |
| 00:42.48 | Adys | bzr handles those smooth as butter |
| 00:43.06 | Adys | look at it this way |
| 00:43.20 | Adys | "in svn its easy to deal with" = "in bzr you don't ever deal with it" |
| 00:43.43 | Adys | "in svn its screwed up" = "in bzr it doesn't even exist" |
| 00:44.08 | Shirik | don't ever deal with it? |
| 00:44.23 | Shirik | Like it has "import psychic;" or something to resolve conflicting changes? |
| 00:44.32 | Adys | import psychic yes |
| 00:44.38 | Shirik | it's impossible to not have a conflict |
| 00:44.42 | Shirik | you can always come up with a way to do it |
| 00:45.08 | Adys | conflicts exist in bzr, but they are easily worked around |
| 00:45.22 | Shirik | I don't see the problem with svn's conflict handling |
| 00:45.23 | Adys | right now Im on a solo environment so didnt setup anything against conflicts |
| 00:45.25 | mikma | !serveralert eu |
| 00:45.25 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: This Wednesday there will be a live maintenance, i.e. rolling restarts of all realms between 05:00 and 07:00 CET. Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted. |
| 00:45.26 | Shiibot | Additionally we will perform a web maintenance from 05:00 Paris time (CET) until aproximately 09:00 Paris time (CET). During this period the Armory, Account Management, Blizzard Store, Forums and the rest of our website will be unavailable. |
| 00:45.26 | Shiibot | Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
| 00:45.31 | Adys | but in a sane env you wont ever have any |
| 00:45.51 | Adys | your mom is the best thing since sliced bread |
| 00:45.57 | cloudwolf | So would it be best to run this in an on load function? |
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| 00:59.14 | cloudwolf | how would I make a keybinding run a function inside my Lua code? I tried SetBinding("C",statframe) but this doesn't work heh |
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| 01:01.32 | [NeutroN] | hello guys, I was wondering, is there any addon that simply lets me see the data that goes through the guild and raid data channels? |
| 01:01.51 | cloudwolf | what type of data? |
| 01:02.00 | cloudwolf | Chat messages? |
| 01:02.56 | [NeutroN] | nah, don't all raid groups have a "hidden" channel that addons use to communicate with each other within the raid? |
| 01:03.07 | [NeutroN] | which don't get displayed as chat messages |
| 01:04.24 | cloudwolf | Are you talking about like how Group calandar works? |
| 01:04.53 | [NeutroN] | yeah |
| 01:05.03 | [NeutroN] | and when addons like recount sync their lists with each other |
| 01:05.20 | [NeutroN] | so you can see the data changing even when you are running for your corpse etc.. :P |
| 01:06.20 | cloudwolf | i think their using librarys im not sure im sorry.. |
| 01:07.52 | [NeutroN] | mm yeah, it's sent as a different kind of message, which don't get displayed as chat messages, but addons can see them.. so I was just wondering if there was a way to view that data, by having an addon that simply sits there reading the data channels and displaying it in a separate window |
| 01:08.53 | [NeutroN] | anyway thanks for your time :) |
| 01:09.04 | cloudwolf | Probably could. It would have to be able to read the channels of the addons which would requrie the library their using and other coding that i have no idea how to do. not sure if its sent in legible text though it could be a bunch of random numbers |
| 01:11.49 | [NeutroN] | yeah it would probably be sent as lots of weird numbers and letters that don't make any sense to the human eye :P |
| 01:14.05 | Lunessa | [NeutroN]: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10410-Spydon.html |
| 01:16.42 | [NeutroN] | Lunessa: nice :) that's just what I'm looking for |
| 01:20.33 | Lunessa | [NeutroN]: Be warned, you can get a lot of traffic in that frame. |
| 01:21.01 | cloudwolf | What would be the ingame chat command to manualy run a lua function? |
| 01:21.21 | Lunessa | ... /run |
| 01:21.48 | cloudwolf | tried it doesn't run my function |
| 01:22.09 | Arrowmaster | then your doing it wrong |
| 01:22.38 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.42 | cloudwolf | lol i was :D |
| 01:25.56 | cloudwolf | what is being called when you press c? for the character pane? |
| 01:27.33 | Tem | ShowUIPanel |
| 01:28.13 | Kirov | cloudwolf - An xml key binding that's linked to a binding action which runs a function. |
| 01:28.15 | [NeutroN] | works like a charm |
| 01:28.20 | Tem | Why is Peppy not green in that post? |
| 01:28.50 | Kirov | cloudwolf - http://wowcompares.com/3089506/FrameXML/Bindings.xml |
| 01:28.56 | Tem | oh, because it's a 2 year old thread |
| 01:29.02 | Tem | that may esplain it |
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| 01:30.27 | cloudwolf | ugh xml... |
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| 01:37.22 | [NeutroN] | I always wanted to learn how to program addons, but don't really know where to start :D |
| 01:37.56 | [NeutroN] | blizzard doesn't really give you much help to get started. no official documentation :\ |
| 01:40.43 | cloudwolf | neutron- http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 01:49.40 | cloudwolf | ShowUIPanel("PaperDollFrame") would be what i set up a hook too then? |
| 01:50.03 | cloudwolf | if i want it to open/close everytime that panel opens/closes? |
| 01:52.36 | Lunessa | Tem: That post is from before she was an MVP |
| 01:54.11 | Tem | Lunessa, aye |
| 01:54.45 | Lunessa | And that guy cribbed from peppy's posts and my Vista guide, and then hints that *I* am stupid? /facepalm |
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| 02:01.17 | Lunessa | Cairenn is more fun to tackle. *nods sagely* |
| 02:01.37 | Arrowmaster | cloudwolf: no you would hook PaperDollFrame_OnShow or PaperDollFrame:GetScript("OnShow") |
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| 02:14.14 | Tem | Why is it so hard to find a free version of VMWare on their site? |
| 02:15.05 | NightHawkTheSane | they're too busy trying to get money out of you? |
| 02:15.05 | Tem | There it is |
| 02:16.50 | Tem | now hmmm |
| 02:16.56 | Tem | what's the quickest way to get up and running |
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| 02:30.18 | cog|away | Tem: would virtual pc work? |
| 02:30.33 | Tem | I've already got vmware installed |
| 02:30.44 | Tem | mostly just looking for a good starter image |
| 02:31.21 | cog|away | http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml |
| 02:31.28 | Tem | thanks, cog|away |
| 02:32.11 | WobWork | 30sec cooldown desperate prayer? |
| 02:32.15 | WobWork | wtf |
| 02:32.16 | cog|away | http://www.vmxbuilder.com/ |
| 02:32.21 | WobWork | that's not very desperate =P |
| 02:32.33 | cog|away | heh |
| 02:32.41 | cog|away | nerf melodrama |
| 02:33.11 | WobWork | it's free health every half minute =P |
| 02:33.18 | WobWork | I dunno if it even triggers gcd |
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| 02:34.53 | cloudwolf | Arrowmaster- thank you for that help. Sorry for the late reply what you gave me worked. |
| 02:38.06 | WobWork | Oh, it costs mana now |
| 02:38.07 | WobWork | shows how much I've been playing my priest |
| 02:43.22 | Thunder_Child | 60mb for a txt file is way to big |
| 02:44.19 | Tem | this is dumb |
| 02:44.25 | Tem | I might as well just boot into linux |
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| 02:56.10 | Tem | so |
| 02:56.15 | Tem | uh |
| 02:56.22 | Tem | I have this really old release of ubuntu |
| 02:56.33 | Tem | is it possible to upgrade without too much effort? |
| 02:57.19 | Tewan | WobWork, lol |
| 02:57.28 | Tewan | <WobWork> 30sec cooldown desperate prayer? <WobWork> that's not very desperate =P |
| 02:57.46 | Tewan | that's a normal prayer ;D |
| 02:58.43 | Thunder_Child | i want one of these for brute force hacking http://i.gizmodo.com/5145315/ibm-sequoia-faster-than-the-fastest-500-supercomputers-combined |
| 03:00.24 | kd3 | raaah |
| 03:00.30 | kd3 | too goddamn cold |
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| 03:00.35 | kd3 | I want to file a complaint with god |
| 03:00.43 | kd3 | sub-freezing and steady 15-20mph winds |
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| 03:00.54 | Tem | kd3, sounds awesome |
| 03:00.58 | Tem | my AC will run tonight |
| 03:01.13 | Tem | so |
| 03:01.22 | Tem | I'm running ubuntu 7.04 |
| 03:01.28 | Tem | what's the best way to upgrade to 8.10? |
| 03:01.37 | Tem | I don't need to do a full reinstall, right? |
| 03:01.42 | kd3 | grab an 8.10 dvd and choose the update option |
| 03:01.51 | kd3 | if it's smart like fedora is it should handle it |
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| 03:02.42 | Tewan | aw |
| 03:02.49 | Tewan | * God :Nickname is already in use. |
| 03:02.59 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:03.05 | Shirik | (22:00:44) (+Tem) I'm running ubuntu 7.04 |
| 03:03.10 | Shirik | Do you enjoy being a masochist? |
| 03:03.18 | Tem | this is an OLD install |
| 03:03.34 | Tewan | Shirik, I'm running Ubuntu 8.1 |
| 03:03.38 | Shirik | I'm sorry |
| 03:03.40 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5142331/gsat-the-geek-social-aptitude-test |
| 03:03.41 | Tem | when I booted up it had been 434 days since last disk check so it forced me |
| 03:03.46 | Tem | to check disk |
| 03:04.07 | Tem | Shirik, what do you have against ubuntu? |
| 03:04.12 | Shirik | everything |
| 03:04.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ubuntu killed his parents |
| 03:04.31 | Shirik | it's too overhyped |
| 03:04.35 | Shirik | that's not really the developers' fault |
| 03:04.36 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 03:04.51 | Tem | I no linux expert |
| 03:04.59 | Tem | and this is easy enough for me to figure stuff out |
| 03:05.15 | Shirik | getting gentoo is a great way to learn linux |
| 03:05.19 | Tewan | ugh |
| 03:05.20 | Tewan | gentoo |
| 03:05.21 | Tem | pass |
| 03:05.22 | Shirik | pain and suffering = learning |
| 03:05.34 | Shirik | no pain no gain |
| 03:05.48 | Tem | GENTOO LINUX: Sometimes your life is just an example to others of what not to do. |
| 03:05.57 | Tewan | lol |
| 03:05.58 | Tewan | LOL |
| 03:06.12 | Tem | perhaps under a picture of a failboat |
| 03:06.13 | cog|away | Tem: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ubuntu+upgrade |
| 03:06.25 | Tem | cog|away, suck it imo |
| 03:07.34 | Gngsk | wow the live feed is mesmorizing |
| 03:07.44 | Tem | the live feed of what? |
| 03:08.43 | Gngsk | let me google that for you |
| 03:08.47 | Tewan | cog|away, lmao |
| 03:09.45 | Tem | oh god |
| 03:09.52 | Tem | you're right, Gngsk |
| 03:10.31 | Tem | I can't look away |
| 03:10.33 | Gngsk | i could seriously just spend hours watching it |
| 03:10.34 | Gngsk | hah |
| 03:11.06 | Gngsk | also, makes me want to learn a language that isn't based on the western char set |
| 03:14.55 | Tewan | Wow. "masturbation instructional video Spanish women" on lmgtfy |
| 03:16.43 | Kaso | ive noticed things like that a fair bit on the live feed |
| 03:17.03 | Kaso | My fav one i saw on the feed was "Have we become to reliant on google?" |
| 03:17.27 | Tewan | Kaso, no |
| 03:17.29 | Tewan | it was dependent |
| 03:17.39 | Kaso | the gist is close enough >< |
| 03:17.40 | Tewan | "Have we become too dependent on Google" |
| 03:17.40 | Tewan | :P |
| 03:18.06 | kd3 | "is water wet?" |
| 03:18.42 | Tewan | you serious? I just closed it |
| 03:18.44 | Tewan | lol |
| 03:19.26 | Shirik | !g is water wet |
| 03:19.27 | batbot | Shirik: Why is water wet? | Notes and Queries | guardian.co.uk <http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1725,00.html> |
| 03:19.32 | Shirik | ... wow |
| 03:20.57 | Shirik | "Water isn't wet. Wetness is a description of our experience of water; what happens to us when we come into contact with water in such a way that it impinges on our state of being. We, or our possessions, 'get wet'" |
| 03:21.11 | Shirik | "Any fluid could be said to be wet if wetness is a result of the sensation caused by the movement of a fluid over the skin. Have you ever noticed that you can't feel wetness if you hold your hand perfectly stillwhile it is submerged, or that a drop of water on the skin doesn't feel wet? " |
| 03:21.22 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 03:21.23 | Shirik | "The wetness of water is thought to be due to its high moisture content. " |
| 03:21.34 | kd3 | w...t...f... |
| 03:21.47 | Shirik | it gets better |
| 03:21.52 | Shirik | that quote is attributed to: (Dr) Jason A. Rush, Dept of Mathematics, Edinburgh University |
| 03:22.52 | Shirik | time to go eat |
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| 03:29.30 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/tokiohotel.jpg |
| 03:30.46 | Zyndrome | Bill Kaulitz have fooled many men |
| 03:30.49 | Zyndrome | kinda like Hanson |
| 03:33.55 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/hitlerbox.jpg |
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| 03:36.58 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/wank.jpg |
| 03:37.20 | cloudwolf | Yay i forgot the api for something like UIFrame("PaperDollFrame") |
| 03:37.24 | cloudwolf | it was something like that |
| 03:37.54 | Thunder_Child | you can try to !api it |
| 03:38.00 | Thunder_Child | !api UIFrame |
| 03:38.01 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'UIFrame'. |
| 03:38.03 | Thunder_Child | boo |
| 03:38.25 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 03:38.31 | cloudwolf | i said it was something like that |
| 03:38.36 | cloudwolf | im not sure what it was exactly |
| 03:38.40 | Thunder_Child | !api paperdollframe |
| 03:38.40 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'paperdollframe'. |
| 03:38.45 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 03:39.38 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/solid_snake_chiropractor.jpg |
| 03:39.46 | cloudwolf | i think i found a subsitute nvm |
| 03:40.16 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/lulzmon.jpg haha |
| 03:41.13 | cloudwolf | or not... |
| 03:41.49 | cloudwolf | what would i use for a frame:RegisterEvent("PaperDollFrame") something like that |
| 03:42.08 | mikma | wat |
| 03:42.16 | cloudwolf | when i tried to hook this it glitched the wow default PaperDollFrame |
| 03:42.31 | mikma | why not WorldFrame:Hide() while at it |
| 03:42.49 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 03:43.19 | WobWork | hehe reminds me of mikma's addon that mimicked Zaphod's sunnies |
| 03:44.13 | mikma | wobwork: its still there! i won a kite because of it! |
| 03:44.41 | WobWork | hehe really? =) |
| 03:44.51 | mikma | wobwork: the current version is extra mean |
| 03:45.03 | mikma | it hides your actionbars and unitframes too |
| 03:45.10 | WobWork | hehe |
| 03:45.14 | kd3 | oh wow. eeebil |
| 03:45.42 | NightHawkTheSane | remember folks: keybinds are your friends. |
| 03:47.23 | cloudwolf | see i have no idea how to set one up properly... |
| 03:47.25 | cloudwolf | >.< |
| 03:47.29 | mikma | wobwork: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
| 03:47.58 | cloudwolf | nighthawkthesane is it CreateBind("C",functiontocall)? |
| 03:48.19 | mikma | !api CreateBind |
| 03:48.20 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'CreateBind'. |
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| 03:48.59 | cloudwolf | !SetBind |
| 03:49.03 | cloudwolf | !api SetBind |
| 03:49.03 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'SetBind': SetBinding, SetBindingClick, SetBindingMacro, SetBindingItem, SetBindingSpell |
| 03:49.16 | cloudwolf | !api SetBinding |
| 03:49.17 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'SetBinding' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetBinding |
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| 03:51.39 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. i need more movies and/or tv series' to watch |
| 03:52.27 | mikma | house |
| 03:54.03 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, you need a list of what you do/have watched |
| 03:54.09 | Thunder_Child | so we can give ideas |
| 03:54.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. |
| 03:54.25 | mikma | mike-n-go_: wut |
| 03:54.27 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe ill be unlazy one day and do taht |
| 03:54.34 | Thunder_Child | eztv.it does it to an extent NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:56.07 | mikma | mike-n-go_: executing all of your ideas might bloat the addon way too much |
| 03:56.43 | cloudwolf | if i put SetBinding outside of a functoin when the addon loads all variables for the first time it makes me run the binding and then after that the bind doesn't work nor is called when i use the key bidning i just set |
| 03:58.26 | mikma | sure, why not |
| 03:58.29 | cloudwolf | i had the functionality i wanted when i used a hook. But the hook glitched the Default UI compenent. |
| 03:58.39 | mikma | btw |
| 03:58.52 | mikma | if you wanna save binds.. |
| 03:59.08 | mikma | !api SaveBinding |
| 03:59.09 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'SaveBindings' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SaveBindings |
| 04:01.06 | cloudwolf | mikma- not exactly the problem |
| 04:01.28 | mikma | then fix it |
| 04:01.29 | cloudwolf | i decalre the bind i don't even press the key that i just bound and it fires |
| 04:01.47 | mikma | you are missing () |
| 04:02.00 | cloudwolf | and then after that intial fire that i didn't even tell it to do it doesn't work any other time |
| 04:02.09 | cloudwolf | SetBinding("SHIFT-C",SendChatMessage("bob")) |
| 04:02.41 | cloudwolf | i don't press the bind and it fires the message. |
| 04:02.51 | mikma | SetBinding("SHIFT-C",function() foofoo("bar") end) |
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| 04:07.07 | cloudwolf | well not it doesn't auto fire on start but the bind still doesn't register when i press it... |
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| 04:11.23 | cloudwolf | SetBinding("Y",function() statframe() end) is there a simple explination as to why when i press Y it doesn't fire? |
| 04:14.19 | Iriel | SetBinding doesn't work that way |
| 04:14.28 | Iriel | The right hand side is an ACTION ID |
| 04:14.31 | Iriel | not a function |
| 04:14.45 | Iriel | The closest you can get is to create a button, set your thing as its OnClick, and use SetBindingClick |
| 04:15.56 | cloudwolf | well that sucks |
| 04:16.07 | Iriel | Why? It's not much harder to do |
| 04:16.32 | Iriel | You actually only need one button for as many bindings as you want, since the binding can specity a 'button' to click, and that can be any string you want |
| 04:21.04 | cloudwolf | well i failed at it... |
| 04:21.12 | cloudwolf | local runstatframe= CreateFrame("Button","csf") |
| 04:21.12 | cloudwolf | runstatframe:SetScript("OnClick",function() statframe()end) |
| 04:21.20 | cloudwolf | SetBindingClick("Y","csf","LeftButton") |
| 04:21.22 | cloudwolf | didn't work... |
| 04:22.11 | cloudwolf | i could aslo be a complete moron |
| 04:22.30 | cloudwolf | im going with the moron thing |
| 04:23.07 | Iriel | Works flawlessly for me when I run that code |
| 04:23.19 | Iriel | (Well, I put print("hello") instead of statframe()) |
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| 04:24.28 | Iriel | Make sure you dont have another frame called 'csf' |
| 04:25.52 | cloudwolf | i don't |
| 04:25.59 | cloudwolf | and i even change it to print("hello world") |
| 04:26.01 | cloudwolf | and it still doesn't work |
| 04:26.05 | cloudwolf | this is realy anoying me and confusing me |
| 04:26.16 | Iriel | Does /click csf work ? |
| 04:26.26 | Iriel | Are you sure statframe() is defined and actually works/ |
| 04:27.05 | cloudwolf | click csf just ran hello world |
| 04:27.29 | Iriel | Have you been playing with any override bindings or anything prior to your SetBindingClick test? |
| 04:27.32 | cloudwolf | but using SetBindclick doesn't work |
| 04:27.45 | cloudwolf | yes and prolly fucked up but it wasn't using y |
| 04:27.55 | Iriel | Well, have you /reload'ed since then? |
| 04:27.57 | cloudwolf | Sorry about the language >.< sliped |
| 04:28.00 | cloudwolf | yes |
| 04:28.11 | cloudwolf | every time i maek a change to my code i reloadui |
| 04:28.11 | Iriel | Hm. |
| 04:28.19 | cloudwolf | unless you mean exit and completel rejoin wow |
| 04:28.21 | Iriel | WHEN are you running SetBindingClick? |
| 04:28.36 | cloudwolf | outside of any functions |
| 04:28.50 | Iriel | But chronologically when? Immediately when your code runs? |
| 04:28.57 | cloudwolf | one of the ladder things |
| 04:29.07 | cloudwolf | its at line 387 of 390 |
| 04:29.09 | Iriel | Try doing /run SetBindingClick("Y", "csf", "LeftButton") inyour chat window |
| 04:29.51 | cloudwolf | typing thta made the bind work |
| 04:29.59 | Iriel | The problem with trying to set bindings yourself up front is that they're usually blown away when the game loads your bindings from disk |
| 04:30.29 | cloudwolf | so is there a good fix? |
| 04:30.39 | Iriel | Well, most people use actual bindings for their bindings |
| 04:30.47 | Iriel | so they show up oin the binding UI and are managed by WoW |
| 04:30.52 | cloudwolf | eh? |
| 04:31.03 | Iriel | i.e. Bindings.xml |
| 04:31.05 | Shirik|AFK | bindings.xml |
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| 04:31.31 | cloudwolf | ugh xml... |
| 04:31.36 | Shirik|AFK | it's easy |
| 04:31.44 | Iriel | You can do <Bindings><Binding name="CLICK csf:LeftButton"/></Bindings> |
| 04:31.49 | cloudwolf | see what i orignaly wanted to do was open my frame when i pressed c |
| 04:31.51 | Shirik|AFK | unlike frame xml you only have a few elements to remember :P |
| 04:32.02 | cloudwolf | but not override the old character screen |
| 04:32.05 | cloudwolf | and when i used a hook |
| 04:32.09 | cloudwolf | it caused glitches |
| 04:33.14 | cloudwolf | when i hooked waht i wanted to do it opened just fine but where the default resistances were instead of having values such as 0 or what ever there were X's there |
| 04:33.38 | cloudwolf | and instead of ginving Charactername priest 49 guildname |
| 04:33.44 | cloudwolf | it was saying name class level guild |
| 04:35.31 | cloudwolf | does any one have any idea why i was getting that glitch? |
| 04:36.27 | Iriel | Beyond "you probably hooked it wrong" ? (I know you dont want to hear that but it's probably true) |
| 04:36.40 | cloudwolf | iriel i don't care waht i hear lol |
| 04:36.44 | cloudwolf | im still trying to learn |
| 04:36.59 | cloudwolf | ocal origcall |
| 04:36.59 | cloudwolf | local origcallhide |
| 04:36.59 | cloudwolf | function statdisplay_onload() |
| 04:36.59 | cloudwolf | origcall=PaperDollFrame_OnShow |
| 04:36.59 | cloudwolf | origcallhide=PaperDollFrame_OnHide |
| 04:37.00 | cloudwolf | PaperDollFrame_OnHide=statframe |
| 04:37.02 | cloudwolf | PaperDollFrame_OnShow=statframe |
| 04:37.04 | cloudwolf | end |
| 04:37.09 | cloudwolf | ugh i think ima get yelled at soon for copy and paste :P |
| 04:37.16 | Thunder_Child | cloudwolf, ....yes |
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| 04:38.35 | cloudwolf | Iriel do you see something wrong with that code? |
| 04:38.41 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: Thanks. |
| 04:38.52 | Shirik|AFK | cloudwolf: rawrwrwrwrwr |
| 04:38.55 | Shirik|AFK | growl |
| 04:38.57 | Shirik|AFK | and all that junk |
| 04:39.09 | cloudwolf | yeah yeah nexttime if its that long ile pastey... |
| 04:39.13 | Thunder_Child | yelled Shirik|AFK, not animal noises |
| 04:39.31 | Shirik|AFK | if a druid yells, isn't that how it comes out? |
| 04:39.33 | cloudwolf | Any way what swrong with that hook? |
| 04:39.40 | cloudwolf | *whats |
| 04:39.49 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: And what is wrong with adding toggles to all the different features? |
| 04:40.02 | Iriel | Well, how do your OnShow and OnHide know which one ws called? you made both invoke the same function |
| 04:40.04 | ZorbaTHut | it's always a very bad sign when I'm leading the damage meters. :( |
| 04:41.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|AFK, no, fail |
| 04:41.27 | cloudwolf | iriel that doesn't realy matter |
| 04:41.38 | cloudwolf | my function has an if frame:isshown then else |
| 04:42.34 | cloudwolf | Also would any one know the api for Resilience? |
| 04:42.37 | cloudwolf | !api Resilience |
| 04:42.37 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Resilience'. |
| 04:42.59 | Thunder_Child | i need to get down to the beach more with my camera |
| 04:43.11 | cloudwolf | Iriel would you like to look over my code in pastey? |
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| 04:45.31 | Iriel | cloudwolf: I'd bet that there's more to your code than just that function, and that if you commented out everything else then you'd find it worked perfectly. Also, You should be using IsVisible not IsShown, but really you should be calling the function that you hooked because you're making assumptions otherwise on how it's used by others. |
| 04:49.50 | cloudwolf | just commented everything out except for the function the frame that registers the event to hook the stuff and the hook |
| 04:49.53 | cloudwolf | and i still get the error |
| 04:49.58 | cloudwolf | *glitch |
| 04:52.29 | Iriel | And you're calling the originals properly? |
| 04:52.31 | Iriel | (passing self?) |
| 04:52.33 | cloudwolf | http://pastey.net/107653 |
| 04:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Shot in the dark: anyone configured SIG(0) DNS updates before? |
| 04:52.36 | cloudwolf | thats all thats not commented out |
| 04:52.55 | cloudwolf | and the glitch still happens |
| 04:53.06 | Iriel | You did't call their functions |
| 04:53.11 | Iriel | You call neither origcall or orighide |
| 04:53.20 | Iriel | so you didn't hook anything, just obliterated |
| 04:53.33 | Iriel | and you dont pass self through |
| 04:54.28 | cloudwolf | Well i fallowed a wow wiki tutorial that said that with verry little examples and has failure on most of those tutorials |
| 04:55.15 | cloudwolf | and i prolly skipped stepps or other things due to failure to know what im looking for |
| 04:56.56 | WobWork | http://joshmillard.com/garkov/ |
| 04:57.39 | Iriel | cloudwolf: do something like that: http://pastey.net/107654 |
| 04:57.48 | Iriel | (You can kill lines 1 & 2, I forgot to remove them) |
| 04:58.37 | Thunder_Child | fail WobWork, fail |
| 05:04.54 | cloudwolf | iriel im trying somethign close to what you just put up there |
| 05:05.04 | cloudwolf | still glitched |
| 05:05.18 | Iriel | Well, how "close" is your "something close" |
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| 05:05.25 | Iriel | because if you miss all the important parts it wont work |
| 05:05.59 | cloudwolf | some variables are named differntly |
| 05:06.08 | cloudwolf | but i made sure every useage of the differnet veriable is wehre it needs to be |
| 05:06.20 | cloudwolf | and now some how its fixed lol |
| 05:06.58 | cloudwolf | first time it opens on the run it glitches |
| 05:07.04 | cloudwolf | then after that it works fine |
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| 05:08.36 | cloudwolf | yep it works but if you just logged on it still glitches |
| 05:08.43 | cloudwolf | then when it opens the 2nd time its fine |
| 05:08.47 | cloudwolf | and any time after that its fine |
| 05:09.25 | cloudwolf | it right now is working well enough i have to go for tonight ty for the help Iriel |
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| 05:11.17 | Mikk | Whoot, I'm in the topic |
| 05:16.01 | Zyndrome | http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/729/kittymechmt7.jpg |
| 05:16.01 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: February 3, 2009, 9:15PM PST |
| 05:16.01 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population PvP realms. These moves are scheduled to end Tuesday, February 10, at 8:00 PM PST provided our transfer goals are not reached prior to this time. We recommend to anyone who wishes to use the free character move system to do so at your earliest convenience. |
| 05:16.01 | Shiibot | To find out if your realm is eligible and begin your free move, go to https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link.PvE free character moves coming soon.February 2, 2009, 6:00PM PST |
| 05:21.33 | WobWork | bah |
| 05:21.47 | WobWork | LJ maintenence just when I want to post an INFORMATIVE REPLY =P |
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| 05:25.04 | WobWork | ... cog|away: isn't your numberplate 4 GNMRGN? |
| 05:25.04 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: February 3, 2009, 9:15PM PST |
| 05:25.04 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population PvP realms. These moves are scheduled to end Tuesday, February 10, at 8:00 PM PST provided our transfer goals are not reached prior to this time. We recommend to anyone who wishes to use the free character move system to do so at your earliest convenience. |
| 05:25.04 | Shiibot | To find out if your realm is eligible and begin your free move, go to https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link.PvE free character moves coming soon. |
| 05:25.21 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Shirik|AFK |
| 05:25.22 | purl | Shirik|AFK, you Fail! |
| 05:25.30 | Shirik | sigh |
| 05:25.44 | Thunder_Child | whats with the date at the end of the first one? |
| 05:25.56 | Shirik | It got cut off |
| 05:25.56 | WobWork | ah, they -did- manage to mention it =P |
| 05:25.59 | Shirik | I limit to 3 lines |
| 05:26.49 | Shirik | Seriously though, if anyone wants to review my code and see if they see why occasionally the md5 bounces back and forth between two numbers (resulting in the above) be my guest |
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| 05:27.20 | Iriel | Link it? |
| 05:27.24 | MentalPower|ZZzz | you sure its not blizz correcting random foo? |
| 05:27.52 | Shirik | MentalPower|ZZzz: If that were the case, I would not expect it to keep bouncing back and forth between two md5s |
| 05:27.54 | Shirik | the same md5s |
| 05:28.05 | MentalPower|ZZzz | hmm... true |
| 05:28.20 | WobWork | I don't get: http://www.wowinsider.com/photos/wow-license-plates/1331567/ |
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| 05:28.53 | Tem | sigh |
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| 05:29.15 | Tem | char** months = {"January", "February", ... } |
| 05:29.18 | Tem | this is not legal |
| 05:29.20 | Tem | for why? |
| 05:29.35 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:29.45 | Shirik | use const char* months[] |
| 05:30.04 | Tem | thanks |
| 05:30.09 | Shirik | try it before you say thanks |
| 05:30.21 | Tem | worked |
| 05:30.24 | Tem | in c++ |
| 05:30.28 | Tem | the static keyword |
| 05:30.40 | Tem | it means that variable is only initialized once for that function, yes? |
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| 05:30.49 | Shirik | for a variable, yes |
| 05:31.05 | Tem | when does it delete it? |
| 05:31.12 | Shirik | It also means it has static linkage |
| 05:31.17 | Shirik | I was getting to that :P |
| 05:31.29 | Shirik | It is basically "built in" to the code |
| 05:31.53 | Tem | ah okay |
| 05:31.54 | Shirik | Depending on the architecture, that can mean several things, but suffice to say, it's never "freed" |
| 05:32.03 | Shirik | it exists until the program terminates |
| 05:32.05 | Shirik | that's the important part |
| 05:32.19 | Shirik | In many architectures, a static variable will actually be part of the code segment |
| 05:32.51 | Shirik | Unfortunately I don't research the internals of IA32 compilers much :P |
| 05:33.40 | Shirik | ok Iriel |
| 05:33.44 | Iriel | WobWork: Travel Form |
| 05:33.48 | Shirik | here's the update script: http://wowi.pastey.net/107656 |
| 05:34.11 | Shirik | and here's the module in Shiibot that's handling the results |
| 05:34.37 | WobWork | Iriel: aha =) |
| 05:34.55 | WobWork | I was going: "Travel.. for... M?" |
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| 05:35.56 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/107657 |
| 05:35.59 | Thunder_Child | WobWork, in reality the person works at MI6 |
| 05:36.47 | Iriel | Shirik: Are both MD5's the expected length? |
| 05:36.54 | Shirik | I believe so, let me check |
| 05:37.33 | Iriel | Hm, shouldn't lasthash be in a table keyed by server? |
| 05:38.02 | Shirik | This is what just happened |
| 05:38.03 | Shirik | NEW SERVERALERT! Old: 68b329da9893e34099c7d8ad5cb9c940 /home/mpdelbuono/spambot/alert, New: 9f3a9ea4acb8c510b6837dc7bb1ee7d8 /home/mpdelbuono/spambot/alert |
| 05:38.14 | Shirik | NEW SERVERALERT! Old: 9f3a9ea4acb8c510b6837dc7bb1ee7d8 /home/mpdelbuono/spambot/alert, New: 24d699568f5a385ed1ec2e7e72c8af27 /home/mpdelbuono/spambot/alert |
| 05:38.23 | Shirik | that's interesting |
| 05:38.39 | Shirik | haha! |
| 05:38.42 | Shirik | It really did change |
| 05:38.53 | Shirik | Maybe I should reconsider how I figure out when to display |
| 05:39.06 | Shirik | What they did was added the new serveralert then later removed the old one |
| 05:39.09 | ZorbaTHut | what did they do, capitalize something or add a space or something? |
| 05:39.20 | ZorbaTHut | ah :) |
| 05:39.34 | Iriel | Maybe you should normalize before hashing? |
| 05:39.44 | Iriel | turn all whitespace runs to single spaces and trim? |
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| 05:39.51 | Shirik | Iriel: genServerAlert() returns a function |
| 05:39.58 | Iriel | Yeah, I figured that out 8-) |
| 05:40.24 | Shirik | so each server has its own lasthash :) |
| 05:40.50 | Shirik | Yeah I should probably trim it for sure |
| 05:40.56 | Shirik | problem is I don't quite know how short it needs to be |
| 05:41.11 | Shirik | I guess I can trim it to never be more than 250*3 characters; it will never be longer than that |
| 05:41.20 | Iriel | Trim just means remove leading and trailing spaces |
| 05:41.24 | Iriel | (as opposed to truncate) |
| 05:41.29 | Shirik | Ah well I meant truncate |
| 05:41.33 | Aquavette | got a quick question, is this not legal: for i=1,12 do tostring("Frame"..i):ClearAllPoints() end |
| 05:41.37 | Shirik | because that's what happened this last time |
| 05:41.51 | Shirik | The change was beyond the clipping region for IRC |
| 05:41.53 | Iriel | Aquavette: no |
| 05:42.08 | Shirik | tostring? |
| 05:42.10 | Iriel | Aquavette: you want for i=1,12 do _G["Frame"..i]:ClearAllPoints(); end |
| 05:42.11 | Shirik | It's already a string |
| 05:43.50 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:43.51 | WobWork | Fans of furries and anime-style cat girls will be disappointed by the news that attempts to create human animal hybrids have failed. |
| 05:43.53 | Arrowmaster | is that cogwheels car on that wow license plates page? |
| 05:44.22 | Iriel | Shirik: Maybe you should institute some kind of throttle...the alert needs to stabilize for X seconds before you'll notify |
| 05:44.49 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 05:44.52 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I recognize the hotel |
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| 05:45.07 | Shirik | Well, I update once a minute |
| 05:45.09 | Arrowmaster | did you also take the picture? |
| 05:45.09 | Morril | #join WowUIdev |
| 05:45.30 | Shirik | so "stabilizing" may not make much sense unless I'm misunderstanding you |
| 05:45.49 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, don't post it in the channel until it's been the same for two updates in a row? |
| 05:45.49 | Shirik | even if I waited for 5 minutes, that's only 5 chances to change |
| 05:45.58 | Shirik | THAT I have already implemented, ZorbaTHut |
| 05:46.09 | ZorbaTHut | righto |
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| 05:46.32 | Shirik | if it keeps going back and forth it will stop posting the update, but unfortunately it won't know until after the second |
| 05:46.55 | Aquavette | This in my code: for f=1,12 do _G["Frame"..f]:ClearAllPoints(); end Yields this:"attempted to index field "?" (a nil value)" in game |
| 05:47.06 | Shirik | Then the frame doesn't exist |
| 05:47.21 | Shirik | also, if your frame really is named ("Frame"..f) you really need to reconsider your naming convention |
| 05:47.27 | Aquavette | its not |
| 05:47.32 | Aquavette | its just an example |
| 05:47.45 | Shirik | well that being said, still the frame doesn't exist |
| 05:47.57 | Shirik | lua> t = {}; t[1]:foo() |
| 05:47.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 05:48.03 | Shirik | ^ example |
| 05:48.31 | Aquavette | whooops i'm an idiot |
| 05:48.46 | Aquavette | when i put in back in my lua, i type frame, not my real frame name |
| 05:48.48 | Aquavette | rofl |
| 05:48.50 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:49.08 | Aquavette | damn i been at this too long |
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| 05:49.32 | Shirik | oh trust me, you have no idea |
| 05:49.41 | Aquavette | I been up for 41 hours straight |
| 05:49.44 | Shirik | 13 hours coding in labview yesterday, my brain is fried |
| 05:49.57 | Shirik | oh so you're on par with me then |
| 05:49.58 | Aquavette | i been coding in C++ all day yesterday |
| 05:50.02 | Shirik | C++ is easy |
| 05:50.04 | Aquavette | and basic this morning |
| 05:50.06 | Aquavette | and now lua |
| 05:50.10 | Aquavette | so tired of hoping around |
| 05:50.12 | Shirik | But it's all text! |
| 05:50.14 | Shirik | Text is fun |
| 05:50.17 | Aquavette | yea |
| 05:50.26 | Shirik | colored wires that look like a subway station |
| 05:50.32 | Shirik | eventually they all become a blur |
| 05:50.34 | Arrowmaster | why the hell were you coding in basic? |
| 05:50.40 | Aquavette | Visual Basic... sorry |
| 05:50.48 | Shirik | well that's enough to kill off half your brain cells |
| 05:50.50 | Arrowmaster | thats almost as bad |
| 05:51.02 | Aquavette | my engineering firm is writing a program in basic |
| 05:51.11 | Shirik | visual basic? |
| 05:51.13 | Aquavette | well, VB and i came in when they had it half done |
| 05:51.30 | Aquavette | I would have done it in something else, i don't like vb.net |
| 05:51.30 | Shirik | fortunately if I go into the line of work I want to get in to, I will never have to use basic |
| 05:51.38 | Shirik | (or visual basic, or C#) |
| 05:51.52 | Aquavette | a friend of mine is trying to get away from java |
| 05:51.54 | Aquavette | he can't |
| 05:52.06 | Shirik | Java has an interesting and important paradigm |
| 05:52.13 | Shirik | it will be around for a while if not just for that |
| 05:52.16 | Aquavette | yea |
| 05:52.24 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-37-80.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:52.33 | Aquavette | hell, screw this programming stuff, let me go back to setting up cisco routers, thats easy |
| 05:52.49 | Shirik | See, I can't do that |
| 05:52.50 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:52.53 | Shirik | I've learned one thing over the years |
| 05:53.00 | Aquavette | man, I can fly though a cisco router config |
| 05:53.00 | Shirik | Being a network admin is a thankless position |
| 05:53.02 | Arrowmaster | dont take my potential jobs |
| 05:53.12 | Shirik | You only get contacted when something doesn't work |
| 05:53.13 | Shirik | not when it does |
| 05:53.30 | Aquavette | yea, Shirik your right, thats part of the problem with tech firms around where i live |
| 05:53.32 | Aquavette | no stable work |
| 05:53.43 | Arrowmaster | thats the entire reason i want to be a network admin |
| 05:53.51 | Aquavette | make sure you work for a company then |
| 05:53.53 | Shirik | why, you like everyone hating you? |
| 05:53.55 | Aquavette | and not work as a contract |
| 05:54.03 | Aquavette | contract works sucks |
| 05:54.09 | Arrowmaster | no i like doing nothing until something goes wrong |
| 05:54.22 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:54.29 | Shirik | that's not really what I meant! |
| 05:54.41 | Shirik | I meant that nobody ever says "thanks" for it working |
| 05:54.44 | Shirik | they just yell at you when it doesn't work |
| 05:54.50 | Shirik | and ignore you at all other times, taking it for granted |
| 05:55.08 | Shirik | I periodically wonder what would happen to the world if all the net admins just shut down their servers and went on strike |
| 05:55.23 | Arrowmaster | i would get a job? |
| 05:55.28 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:57.01 | Aquavette | yea, i know the yelling part, I have narcolepsy and cataplexy too, so when i get all fired up i fall asleep |
| 05:57.09 | Aquavette | my first job in a while is gonna be short |
| 05:57.53 | Shirik | Welp, I hope to go into the avionics industry. Stable positions, intelligent people, and strict process. |
| 05:57.56 | Aquavette | is there an offline wow environment you can run your addon in? I hate idling on my wow account just to develop an addon |
| 05:58.06 | Shirik | None of this "lol who needs to design first just hack away at it" world |
| 05:58.15 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, all but option #2 |
| 05:58.16 | Aquavette | yea, i hate that hack away at it BS |
| 05:58.28 | Shirik | okay, maybe not #2, Thunder_Child |
| 05:58.36 | Shirik | but I already deal with the lack of #2 at school |
| 05:58.39 | Shirik | I can live with it |
| 05:58.48 | Aquavette | I deal with the lack of #2 in life |
| 05:58.48 | Thunder_Child | since thats life i would hope so |
| 05:58.56 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:59.00 | Shirik | ok, this just begs this |
| 05:59.27 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Shirik -> Topic: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "I deal with the lack of #2 in life" - Aquavette |
| 05:59.36 | Aquavette | rofl |
| 05:59.42 | Aquavette | i didn't even think about it that way |
| 05:59.59 | Thunder_Child | context Shirik, context |
| 06:00.13 | Aquavette | if you take it out of context, yea, that works.... |
| 06:00.36 | Thunder_Child | not much worse than your comment Shirik |
| 06:00.41 | Thunder_Child | "@Shirik: but I already deal with the lack of #2 at school" |
| 06:00.46 | Shirik | yes but I can't quote myself |
| 06:00.58 | Shirik | I expected Cairenn to jump on that |
| 06:01.04 | Shirik | but Aquavette eased that |
| 06:02.13 | Cairenn | you're lucky, I was distracted by something else and didn't see it in time |
| 06:02.19 | Shirik | :P |
| 06:03.12 | Aquavette | its bad that you get kicked out of a raiding guild, so you start writing addons is it not? |
| 06:04.50 | Mikk | Aquavette: why? |
| 06:05.18 | Aquavette | asking a question, my raiding guild booted me over something stupid |
| 06:05.19 | Tain | I spent about a year of WoW life logging in solely to test addons. |
| 06:05.23 | Mikk | Programming is arguably a better real life skill than reducing big chunks of pixels to rubble :P |
| 06:05.37 | Aquavette | true |
| 06:05.52 | Aquavette | I'm just trying to find that proper balance |
| 06:06.29 | Mikk | As for your question about offline testing |
| 06:06.32 | Mikk | The answer is "kidna" |
| 06:06.37 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 06:06.40 | Tain | Well, testing addons and cybersex. You know how it is. |
| 06:06.43 | Aquavette | There was a wowbench of sorts a long time ago |
| 06:06.48 | Shirik | I'm writing a paper on how to reduce big chunks of pixels to rubble |
| 06:06.51 | Mikk | Ages ago I put together (and kept up to date) WoWBench, which is exactly what you're asking for |
| 06:06.52 | Aquavette | but i don't know if its up to snuff |
| 06:07.02 | Mikk | Lately, me + some others have been working a bit on it |
| 06:07.07 | Shirik | though... it's a bit more than that |
| 06:07.10 | Mikk | So it kinda works ... but not for everything :P |
| 06:07.22 | Shirik | Technically the working title is "High-Throughput Vision Processing Algorithm Development for SIMD Architectures" |
| 06:07.28 | Shirik | but basically that's "reducing pixels to rubble" |
| 06:07.29 | Aquavette | yea, thats kinda funny that i knew what you were talking about, didn't realize you wrote it though |
| 06:07.30 | Mikk | So you're likely to have to go digging in source to find out why something isn't working |
| 06:08.10 | amro | Mikk: updated for 3.x? |
| 06:08.20 | Mikk | amro: that's the work in progress bit ;) |
| 06:08.41 | Mikk | I should get it up on a more friendly svn |
| 06:09.27 | Aquavette | i'm about ready to enter the world of the disabled again, what language are you coding it in? |
| 06:09.35 | Mikk | Lua |
| 06:09.44 | Aquavette | dumb question right |
| 06:09.47 | Mikk | Not really |
| 06:09.48 | amro | Mikk: yep, seeing as the lastest version on wowwiki is still 1.12 :P |
| 06:09.57 | Mikk | But I picked Lua so that addon authors would know how to mod it |
| 06:10.06 | Mikk | amro: Yeah you want to grab from sourceforge |
| 06:10.18 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:10.34 | Aquavette | I wish someone would put out a version of something like wowace updater again |
| 06:10.37 | Aquavette | god that thing rocked |
| 06:10.55 | Aquavette | wowinterface's java one isn't bad, however, its not what wowace was |
| 06:11.10 | Cairenn | it's being rewritten |
| 06:11.19 | Thunder_Child | SLOOOOOOOOOOWLY |
| 06:11.20 | Thunder_Child | XD |
| 06:11.22 | Shirik | hey quiet you |
| 06:11.27 | Aquavette | the java one? or the wowace updateR |
| 06:11.37 | Mikk | the wowi one |
| 06:11.37 | Shirik | the wowinterface one |
| 06:11.37 | Thunder_Child | around* |
| 06:11.43 | Mikk | and the curse one is getting loving too lately |
| 06:11.44 | Arrowmaster | wau is dead forever |
| 06:11.47 | Thunder_Child | Aquavette, the curse one is similar |
| 06:11.50 | Mikk | yeah wau is gone |
| 06:11.56 | Aquavette | i can't stand curse at times |
| 06:12.01 | Aquavette | yea, i knew wau was dead and gone |
| 06:12.09 | Tain | The Curse client is horrible. I removed it and refuse to use it. |
| 06:12.12 | NightHawkTheSane | wau was only nice because the repo was bent over backwards to make it so |
| 06:12.13 | Aquavette | the curse one doesn't play nice with active directory |
| 06:12.17 | Adys | Aquavette: you can stand curse at times? |
| 06:12.19 | Shirik | It's being rewritten with a few additions, particularly it's being written with OSGi support so anyone can write a module to connect to the wowi manager |
| 06:12.24 | Aquavette | *can't |
| 06:12.32 | Adys | Aquavette: which means you CAN stand curse at times |
| 06:12.36 | Adys | which is a feat by itself |
| 06:12.39 | Shirik | So in theory, the wowi one will be able to connect to any site (though I will not write modules to connect to any other sites) |
| 06:12.47 | Adys | ill stop trolling, good night |
| 06:12.49 | Shirik | Anyone can write a module to connect it, though |
| 06:12.51 | Aquavette | i can tolerate it when i want something that isn't on wowinterface |
| 06:12.59 | Aquavette | but then i never update it |
| 06:13.02 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Adys |
| 06:13.03 | purl | Adys: FAIL! |
| 06:13.36 | Shirik | Unfortunately I recently hit a snag when I upgraded to Windows 7 |
| 06:13.38 | Shirik | my IDE doesn't work :P |
| 06:13.57 | Shirik | I recently posted to the Netbeans mailing list on how to manually correct the library problem so I'm just waiting to see if I get a response to that |
| 06:13.58 | amro | which IDE? |
| 06:14.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i've found just manually checking the wowace projects page a not terrible way to update my ace stuff |
| 06:14.15 | Shirik | amro: netbeans |
| 06:14.30 | Aquavette | i heard a rumour that windows 7 was gonna go ad based |
| 06:14.37 | Aquavette | a while back ago, i don't know if thats true anymore |
| 06:14.40 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 06:15.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Heh, Windows 7, free with ads, only $199.99 to remove the ads! |
| 06:15.23 | Aquavette | microsoft never fails to suprise me though, i'm still po'ed that them and directv canceled their usb satellite tuner |
| 06:15.30 | Aquavette | ooo i was soo pissed |
| 06:17.18 | amro | Shirik: why setup a dev environment on windows 7? |
| 06:17.24 | Shirik | why not? |
| 06:17.32 | amro | no sane terminal! |
| 06:17.41 | Shirik | I think I'll have to reinstall another OS unfortunately |
| 06:17.41 | Aquavette | windows 7 is gonna replace vista so fast |
| 06:17.53 | Shirik | I love windows 7 |
| 06:17.53 | Adys | why setup a dev env on windows at all then if you want a sane term.. |
| 06:17.57 | Shirik | but I need to be able to use netbeans |
| 06:17.57 | Adys | yeah |
| 06:18.01 | Adys | and you love php too |
| 06:18.05 | Shirik | Netbeans actually works |
| 06:18.08 | Adys | tells a lot about your taste |
| 06:18.09 | Adys | :P |
| 06:18.10 | Shirik | but there's one dialog that doesn't |
| 06:18.20 | Shirik | and that's the problem |
| 06:18.29 | amro | netbeans is nice and crossplatform, use it on something else :P |
| 06:18.58 | Tem | ugh |
| 06:19.05 | Tem | Segmentation fault is the lamest excuse for an error |
| 06:19.18 | Shirik | Tem: It's better than "Access violation" |
| 06:19.29 | Shirik | Especially because "Access violation" doesn't even make sense in some situations at all |
| 06:20.01 | Tem | Unhandled Exception 'NullPointerException' at line 12 |
| 06:20.08 | Tem | that's what I'm used to |
| 06:20.10 | Shirik | Every GPF becomes an Access Violation |
| 06:20.24 | Tem | now I get "SIGSEGV" |
| 06:20.33 | Tem | thanks for the super helpful error message |
| 06:20.36 | Shirik | fire up gdb! |
| 06:20.43 | Tem | xxgdb is what I have |
| 06:20.48 | Shirik | wtf is that |
| 06:20.55 | Tem | it's the same thing |
| 06:21.04 | Tem | but made for NachOS |
| 06:21.09 | Tem | ... I think |
| 06:21.21 | Tem | no I lied |
| 06:21.21 | amro | nachos? you can debug food now? |
| 06:21.35 | Tem | it's just an X front end for gdb |
| 06:21.47 | Tem | ~wtf NachOS |
| 06:21.55 | Tem | ~google NachOS |
| 06:21.56 | amro | just run it from a terminal |
| 06:22.01 | Mikk | EMOUNT: No Horse |
| 06:22.05 | Tem | ~wiki NachOS |
| 06:22.08 | Aquavette | ah crap, my addon worked just fine on one user, i login to another and boom |
| 06:22.09 | Mikk | EPIPE: Out of tobacco |
| 06:22.14 | Mikk | VMS error message humor! |
| 06:25.02 | Aquavette | fun titanpanel blows up my addon |
| 06:25.26 | Tain | You're lucky that's all it does. |
| 06:26.09 | Aquavette | it just causes all the frames i added to be in the wrong places |
| 06:26.15 | Aquavette | is it atm |
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| 06:33.57 | Fisker- | Ackis |
| 06:34.00 | Fisker- | i just wanted to let you know |
| 06:34.02 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 06:35.49 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/03/windows-7-skus-announced-yes-your-worst-nightmare-has-come-to/2 |
| 06:36.04 | Fisker- | i hate you too :( |
| 06:36.09 | Fisker- | bai tiems |
| 06:39.20 | Aquavette | oh that would suck |
| 06:39.51 | Aquavette | if they do that to windows 7, because i have that bad feeling i'd lose Active Directory Access |
| 06:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I like you say "would" and "if" |
| 06:40.47 | Aquavette | microsoft never confirms anything |
| 06:40.53 | Aquavette | they change crap at the last minute |
| 06:44.32 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090202.wcollegeradio0202/BNStory/Technology/home |
| 06:44.48 | NightHawkTheSane | College students call the ISS with a home made radio.. ^^ |
| 06:50.20 | Thunder_Child | wtf man...a car seat?, woot failed tonight |
| 06:56.44 | Aquavette | ok |
| 06:56.51 | Aquavette | want some basic basic criticism |
| 06:56.56 | Aquavette | keep in mind it is not done yet |
| 06:56.58 | Aquavette | http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4176/wowscrnshot020409004753zo1.jpg |
| 06:58.53 | amro | I'm assuming you'll eventually "stretch" it to the whole screen |
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| 06:59.35 | Aquavette | yea |
| 06:59.49 | Aquavette | i'm going for a starcraft look / feel |
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| 07:01.18 | Aquavette | i'm open for criticism, its still kind of a work in progress, but thats sort of the basics |
| 07:02.41 | Dewin | oh wow, youtube.com is actually down |
| 07:02.45 | Dewin | was* |
| 07:02.54 | Dewin | Internal Server Error and all |
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| 07:05.47 | Aquavette | i'm guessing i should probably quit while i'm behind, haah |
| 07:08.54 | Thunder_Child | i see microsofts photosynth needs more work |
| 07:11.34 | Thunder_Child | ~goatrope |
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| 07:11.40 | Tem | Aquavette, Fix your resolution. |
| 07:12.04 | Tem | you're playing in squashed mode |
| 07:12.08 | Tem | and that bothers me |
| 07:12.11 | Tem | a _lot_ |
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| 07:21.14 | Aquavette | i play in 1650 x 1080 |
| 07:21.23 | Aquavette | or w/e it is |
| 07:21.25 | Aquavette | off hand i ca't remmeber |
| 07:22.08 | Thunder_Child | 1680x1050 |
| 07:23.03 | Aquavette | thats it |
| 07:23.09 | Aquavette | had it a little reversed |
| 07:23.58 | Tem | you're doing something wrong |
| 07:24.04 | Tem | because your ui is stretched |
| 07:24.55 | Aquavette | i've got everything shifted to the left intentionally |
| 07:25.03 | Tem | that's totally not what I mean |
| 07:25.06 | Tem | look at your minimap |
| 07:25.09 | Aquavette | right |
| 07:25.11 | Tem | it's an elipse |
| 07:25.16 | Tem | it should be a circle |
| 07:25.44 | Aquavette | thats probably how i uploaded it on imgshack |
| 07:25.54 | Tem | unlikely |
| 07:26.08 | Aquavette | yea, its a perfect circle on my screen |
| 07:26.26 | Aquavette | maybe i resized it |
| 07:26.41 | Tem | the image is 1680x970 |
| 07:26.42 | Zyndrome | the image is 1680x970 there |
| 07:26.49 | Tem | lol, Zyndrome |
| 07:26.56 | Zyndrome | hivemind |
| 07:26.57 | Aquavette | yea, my screen res is 1680 x 1050 is short |
| 07:27.07 | Aquavette | *its short |
| 07:27.13 | Aquavette | thats probably whats giving it the eliptical look |
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| 07:38.43 | Zyndrome | http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2009/02/01/black-spray/ |
| 07:39.00 | Zyndrome | wow what a safe testing method! |
| 07:40.09 | Tem | awesome. |
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| 08:28.05 | Wobin | http://cgi.ebay.com/LIFESIZE-World-of-Warcraft-statue-WoW-ork-life-size-orc_W0QQitemZ150324437917QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item150324437917&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A3|39%3A1|240%3A1308 |
| 08:28.05 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 28/01 Free character migrationThe following Free Character Migration will be available from Jan 28 to Feb 3:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 08:28.05 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Alonsus, Aszune, Azjol-Nerub, Bronze Dragonflight, Bronzebeard, Emerald Dream, Eonar, Khadgar, Kul Tiras, Runetotem, Shadowsong, Silvermoon, Turalyon --> Magtheridon |
| 08:28.05 | Shiibot | Burning Legion, Crushridge --> Dentarg, GenjurosGrim Batol, Sylvanas --> Shattered Halls, Vek'nilashRavencrest, Stormscale --> Haomarush, KarazhanAl'Akir, Outland --> Agamaggan, Ahn'Qiraj |
| 08:28.10 | Wobin | >< |
| 08:28.44 | Fisker- | so Wobin |
| 08:28.49 | Fisker- | no moar WoW for you? |
| 08:29.02 | Tem | Any Linuxy types around? |
| 08:29.05 | Wobin | Meh |
| 08:29.12 | Wobin | I don't need to purchase WoW anymore |
| 08:29.16 | Tem | My system is dual boot windows/ubuntu |
| 08:29.29 | Tem | I'd like a restart in either system to restart back to that system |
| 08:29.35 | Tem | s/system/OS/ |
| 08:29.39 | Thunder_Child | i have a dual boot of windows/windows |
| 08:29.48 | Wobin | and it's not like the first thing Blizzard is not going to do is get the game certified |
| 08:30.10 | Fisker- | Tem i think that would be boot loader country |
| 08:30.20 | Thunder_Child | Tem, agreed |
| 08:30.26 | Thunder_Child | with Fisker- |
| 08:30.38 | Tem | well |
| 08:30.43 | Tem | I'm using Grub |
| 08:30.47 | Thunder_Child | grub had custom scripts that you could do |
| 08:30.54 | Tem | "had?" |
| 08:31.05 | Thunder_Child | s/had/has/ |
| 08:31.16 | Thunder_Child | i dont know what ubuntu uses |
| 08:32.14 | Thunder_Child | tem, maybe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#GRUB_editors |
| 08:32.16 | Thunder_Child | can help |
| 08:32.16 | End | Ubuntu uses grub |
| 08:32.33 | End | I have no idea what you're really talking about |
| 08:32.45 | Thunder_Child | L2Scroll End |
| 08:32.53 | End | I know how to scroll! |
| 08:33.01 | End | although, my window is big enough where I don't have to. |
| 08:33.21 | End | ah |
| 08:33.49 | End | the ubuntu installer automatically filled in my ubuntu/windows entries for grub every time I've installed it |
| 08:34.02 | End | oooooh |
| 08:34.11 | End | you want the default entry to change |
| 08:36.41 | Tem | yes |
| 08:36.51 | Tem | really what I want is this: |
| 08:37.03 | Tem | on linux boot: set default to windows |
| 08:37.10 | Tem | on linux restart: set default to linux |
| 08:37.27 | Tem | on linux fancy restart: leave default alone |
| 08:37.28 | Thunder_Child | hmm..if you can edit grub from the O/S then a restart script that changes based on where you run it from |
| 08:37.40 | Thunder_Child | might work |
| 08:37.54 | Tem | yes |
| 08:37.55 | End | yeah, I'm sure there's a way, but I'm afraid you might have to get your hands dirty |
| 08:38.02 | Tem | it's just a matter of editing grub.conf |
| 08:38.31 | Tem | but what I don't know how to do is the "hook" for triggering on a restart |
| 08:38.31 | Tem | (and not on shutdown) |
| 08:39.11 | Tem | similarly, I'd love to add another option so that I can restart with the intent of returning to windows |
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| 08:45.52 | Mel | hello there! |
| 08:46.38 | Wobin | hehe |
| 08:46.38 | Wobin | http://cbs13.com/local/sullenberger.pilot.hudson.2.924916.html |
| 08:46.39 | Wobin | win |
| 08:49.21 | Wobin | So, I suspect it's time to get a new mouse. |
| 08:49.23 | Wobin | Any suggestions? |
| 08:52.45 | Tem | my friend swears by his logitech whatever |
| 08:53.01 | Tem | I really like my microsoft mouse |
| 08:53.29 | Tekkub | I liked my old MS mouse more than the new logi I got |
| 08:53.46 | Tekkub | buttons on the lfet only is nice, but the mousewheel cancels that out |
| 08:54.01 | nevcairiel | i'm pretty happy with the logi g5 |
| 08:54.03 | Tekkub | it has that stupid tilt shit |
| 08:56.56 | Fisker- | I'm considering the SteeleSeries MMO mouse |
| 08:56.59 | Fisker- | need moar butans |
| 08:57.24 | nevcairiel | and 16 million colors! |
| 08:57.33 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 08:57.36 | Fisker- | it's in stock |
| 08:57.41 | Fisker- | BBL 16 mil colors |
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| 09:03.50 | Fisker- | there |
| 09:03.53 | Fisker- | new mouse tomorrow |
| 09:03.55 | Fisker- | better be good |
| 09:06.39 | Fisker- | in any case i'll have lots of purty colors |
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| 09:09.29 | Fisker- | talk purty colors with me >* |
| 09:09.30 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:13.44 | Zyndrome | pretty colors |
| 09:13.46 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 09:13.52 | Fisker- | PURTY |
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| 09:17.19 | Tem | holy shit |
| 09:17.33 | Zyndrome | http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090204.jpg |
| 09:17.38 | Zyndrome | haha oh wow, taking the piss on xbots |
| 09:17.41 | Tem | wow up and running in linux in less than 10 minutes after I decided to try |
| 09:19.36 | Fisker- | you wound me |
| 09:20.32 | batrick | oya |
| 09:20.41 | batrick | Tem: wine is pretty awesome atm |
| 09:20.47 | batrick | even vent + mic works now |
| 09:20.52 | batrick | at least for me |
| 09:21.16 | Fisker- | use windows or i kill myslef |
| 09:21.18 | Fisker- | myself |
| 09:21.18 | nevcairiel | it took me ages to get Teamspeak to work, either the linux or the win through wine |
| 09:21.51 | batrick | teamspeak 3 is gonna be awesome |
| 09:22.08 | nevcairiel | in 10 years when its released, maybe |
| 09:22.12 | Fisker- | why so awesome? |
| 09:22.32 | batrick | it's featureset + Lua is gonna be sick |
| 09:22.56 | Tem | also |
| 09:22.58 | Tem | lulz |
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| 09:23.07 | Tem | so far it's performing better than in windows |
| 09:23.20 | nevcairiel | I didnt actually notice that on my system |
| 09:23.21 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
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| 09:24.58 | krka | i had the same experience tem |
| 09:25.09 | Tem | hmm |
| 09:25.15 | Tem | noticing a few graphical glitches |
| 09:25.59 | krka | opengl or direct3d |
| 09:26.05 | Tem | opengl |
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| 09:28.21 | Tem | alt tab seems to randomly break it |
| 09:32.32 | Fisker- | OpenGL is for developement purposes only! |
| 09:33.47 | Zyndrome | Fisker is for e-bashing only |
| 09:34.29 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 09:34.43 | Fisker- | But that's what Blizzard said |
| 09:34.55 | Fisker- | opengl sholdn't be used unless told to :P |
| 09:35.10 | Fisker- | So all you mac guys better switch to D3D |
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| 09:38.35 | Kalroth | owned |
| 09:38.42 | Mel | i have razer copperhead |
| 09:41.18 | Tem | eeeehm |
| 09:41.20 | Tem | what? |
| 09:41.30 | Tem | I just got a loading bar for hearthing to dalaran |
| 09:41.33 | Tem | from storm peaks |
| 09:41.59 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:42.17 | Tem | why? |
| 09:42.20 | Fisker- | They put in loading screens if the enviroment isn't fully loaded the moment you're ported |
| 09:42.23 | Zyndrome | they've implemented loadingscreens for all kinds of teleports now |
| 09:42.32 | Tem | that's new |
| 09:42.45 | Zyndrome | i.e. portal from Darnassus to Derpderpa Village |
| 09:42.48 | Fisker- | Probably to stop people from exploiting barriers by them not being loaded |
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| 09:43.20 | Arrowmaster | getting ported to graveyards in battlegrounds causes a loading bar |
| 09:43.32 | Tem | whaaaaaaaat? |
| 09:43.45 | Arrowmaster | its very very short but it happens |
| 09:43.58 | nevcairiel | It depends on your latency and your performance, too |
| 09:44.16 | nevcairiel | If your system loads the objects fast enough, it doesnt happen |
| 09:45.05 | Kalroth | I got loading screens when getting teleported out of alliance camp in Dalaran, so .. :) |
| 09:45.18 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:45.20 | nevcairiel | dalaran is constantly lagging |
| 09:45.26 | nevcairiel | no surprise there |
| 09:49.26 | Kalroth | I did find a spot where I could attack players and not being teleported though! |
| 09:49.43 | Kalroth | Well target them, only thing I could attack was the battlemaster dude :P |
| 09:52.03 | foxlit | Kalroth: multiple such spots, mostly indoors |
| 09:52.05 | nevcairiel | attacking the battle masters is usually not so wise |
| 09:52.47 | Kalroth | Yeah, I guess it would attract some attention |
| 09:53.00 | Kalroth | From the local GMs :p |
| 09:56.26 | Fisker- | reminds me |
| 09:56.51 | Fisker- | i got 200 lines of /spit for killing someone doing the drake daily in the nexus(catching and delivering a drake) |
| 09:56.55 | Fisker- | so i reported him for spam :3 |
| 09:57.08 | Fisker- | (But you can't report spam on emotes of course) |
| 09:57.19 | Fisker- | Then i got a mail back saying "You should use report spam" |
| 09:57.20 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 10:01.01 | Lothaer | hey guys |
| 10:01.53 | Lothaer | anyone know if ErrorMonster still works? |
| 10:03.25 | Tekkub | insteall it and see |
| 10:08.51 | Lothaer | nope |
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| 11:05.11 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDGV3sG_bLQ&feature=related |
| 11:05.24 | Wobin | The Kransky Sisters are great =) watch all their videos |
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| 12:09.15 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/1233102753244.jpg |
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| 13:19.53 | Lothaer | sad news guys |
| 13:22.34 | Lothaer | apparently the sale of wow and other online mmo games that dont have a rating are going to be banned in Australia |
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| 13:24.32 | Fisker- | My carelevel is through the roof |
| 13:24.43 | nevcairiel | I'm sure they'll get a rating, then =P |
| 13:25.03 | Fisker- | WoW will be banned if they get a rating |
| 13:25.06 | Fisker- | There's shit in it |
| 13:25.25 | Fisker- | eating shit is bad |
| 13:25.29 | Fisker- | Thus game is bad |
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| 13:27.10 | Fisker- | It's all because of Josef Frizl |
| 13:29.19 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 04/02 Free character migrationThe following Free Character Migration will be available from Feb 4 to Feb 10:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 13:29.19 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Alonsus, Arathor, Azjol-Nerub, Bronze Dragonflight, Bronzebeard, Eonar, Hellscream, Khadgar, Lightbringer, Kilrogg, Kul Tiras, Silvermoon, Terenas, Turalyon --> Magtheridon |
| 13:29.19 | Shiibot | Al'Akir, Stormscale --> Vek'nilash, XaviusBurning Legion, Grim Batol --> Boulderfist, TrollbaneCrushridge, Sylvanas --> Chromaggus, HaomarushKazzak, Ravencrest --> Laughing Skull, Sunstrider |
| 13:33.35 | Fisker- | ragequit! |
| 13:35.03 | Lothaer | but wow comes with a Teen rating in Australia |
| 13:37.17 | Fisker- | It comes with a PEGI rating |
| 13:39.01 | Lothaer | maybe in EU |
| 13:44.24 | Fisker- | ESRB then |
| 13:44.36 | Fisker- | It doesn't come with the australian rating in any case |
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| 13:49.16 | mikma | what the heck :D all trolls have gotten a Darkspear Reunion invitation |
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| 14:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. *hugs* |
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| 14:44.09 | Fisker- | i haven't gotten one mikma ? |
| 14:44.51 | Lopeppeppy | I got two mikmas, I'm very lucky. |
| 14:48.05 | Fisker- | how od you get it??++ |
| 14:48.52 | Kalroth | pour water on him after midnight |
| 14:50.11 | Lopeppeppy | Feed him after midnight. |
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| 15:22.03 | mikma | haha |
| 15:23.29 | mikma | nsfw http://www.yangsky.com/researches/physicallinguistics/PLUnderstand/humanbody/anus/anus.htm |
| 15:24.15 | mikma | huzzah for technology |
| 15:24.26 | Lopeppeppy | Someone has to do it, why not a robot? |
| 15:24.37 | mikma | true |
| 15:24.57 | [dRaCo] | rofl |
| 15:25.00 | nevcairiel | why does someone have to do it? <.< |
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| 15:25.08 | nevcairiel | we could do fine without it! |
| 15:25.09 | mikma | nevcairiel: to block porn |
| 15:25.15 | mikma | so children are protected! |
| 15:25.37 | mikma | wts Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses for interwebs |
| 15:25.39 | nevcairiel | Wouldn't it be better to detect other stuff too, then |
| 15:25.39 | [dRaCo] | This technology can be used in [...] automatic porn video preview generator. |
| 15:25.40 | [dRaCo] | ! |
| 15:26.13 | krka | hm, i am work so i cant look |
| 15:26.15 | krka | but i am curious :( |
| 15:26.39 | mikma | krka: well stuff is blurred but still "visible" |
| 15:26.52 | mikma | krka: it's a software that detects anus :D |
| 15:27.14 | krka | oic |
| 15:27.55 | mikma | This technology can be used in automatic porn detection, porn removal, porn blocker, illicit content mosaic, automatic porn locating, automatic porn filtering, automatic porn video preview generator. |
| 15:28.03 | mikma | basicly, its suitable for *both* groups |
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| 15:28.33 | mikma | people who want to block anus', and people who want to see anus' :D |
| 15:28.40 | krka | and porn without anuses just isn't good enough! |
| 15:30.40 | Kalroth | amen! |
| 15:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | To each their own. |
| 15:33.11 | zenzelezz | might be old, but I found it funny: http://www.keepaa.com/i/d/221227dd |
| 15:33.18 | krka | To each their own... anus? |
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| 15:33.36 | Kalroth | krka: is the anus like a fingerprint then? |
| 15:33.54 | krka | you're the expert |
| 15:33.59 | Lukian | Kalroth, it's like facial recognition :p |
| 15:34.25 | Kalroth | or fecial recognition? |
| 15:34.57 | krka | this is an asspicious day! |
| 15:35.29 | Kalroth | zenzelezz: Cheap, but true! |
| 15:36.05 | krka | this isn't a clASSy lounge, this is wow ui dev! |
| 15:36.48 | Kalroth | ui being unusual interaction |
| 15:38.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'm very sure. |
| 15:39.00 | Fisker- | I'd gladly take a paid job sorting assholes |
| 15:39.29 | Kalroth | Fisker-: Start with yourself! |
| 15:40.02 | Fisker- | my asshole isn't on the internet |
| 15:40.36 | Kalroth | No, you're an asshole on the internet |
| 15:41.24 | Fisker- | yes |
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| 15:42.49 | krka | Kalroth is on a roll. a toilet roll |
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| 15:52.03 | Kalroth | krka: and what do you do with toilet rolls?! |
| 15:53.19 | Lopeppeppy | Make kazoos |
| 15:56.18 | Kalroth | http://www.captainkazoo.com/kazois.html |
| 15:56.43 | Kalroth | I wonder if it's possible to make a combo of a kazoo and a hash pipe |
| 15:56.52 | Kalroth | "sweet buzz, dude" |
| 15:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
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| 17:34.45 | Shirik | rawr |
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| 17:35.43 | Tem | hey, Shirik |
| 17:35.45 | Tem | refresh me |
| 17:35.57 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 17:35.59 | Tem | when I create an array of structs |
| 17:36.19 | Shirik | You know those Blizz authenticators? I just got a notice from Bank of America saying they have those now... on their cards |
| 17:36.44 | Tem | Shirik, can I use the same authenticator I use for my wow account? |
| 17:36.48 | Tem | MyStruct whatever[12]; |
| 17:36.56 | Shirik | lol no :P |
| 17:37.02 | Tem | then I don't care! |
| 17:37.02 | Shirik | but yes that's how you make an array of structs |
| 17:37.07 | Tem | does that create 12 instances of MyStruct? |
| 17:37.12 | Tem | or do I have to do that myself? |
| 17:37.14 | Shirik | yes, with the default constructor |
| 17:37.20 | Tem | okay |
| 17:37.45 | Shirik | now, if you had done MyStruct whatever = new MyStruct[12] |
| 17:37.57 | Shirik | er |
| 17:38.03 | Shirik | MyStruct* whatever = new MyStruct[12] |
| 17:38.04 | Shirik | that won't |
| 17:38.11 | Tem | it won't? |
| 17:38.15 | Tem | god damnit |
| 17:38.15 | Shirik | wait, now I'm confusing myself |
| 17:38.33 | Tem | this is where java kicks the pants off of C++ in terms of clarity |
| 17:38.42 | Shirik | no, I think I'm confusing myself with something |
| 17:38.58 | Shirik | I should know this off the top of my head, lol :P |
| 17:39.00 | krka | MyStract whatever[12] puts them on the stack (i think) |
| 17:39.04 | Shirik | yes it does |
| 17:39.16 | krka | what shirik wrote before puts them on the heap |
| 17:39.20 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:39.27 | Tem | and does that mean they'll poof when the current function ends? |
| 17:39.35 | krka | but in either case you get 12 mystructs initialized with whatever the constructor was |
| 17:39.36 | Shirik | On the stack it will |
| 17:39.37 | Shirik | on the heap it won't |
| 17:39.40 | Tem | mkay |
| 17:39.45 | krka | every new needs a delete |
| 17:39.50 | Tem | right |
| 17:39.51 | Shirik | I was thinking MyStruct** |
| 17:39.55 | krka | stack ftw |
| 17:40.11 | Shirik | stack not always ftw |
| 17:40.11 | Tem | well, if you wouldn't delete them until the end of the program anyway, do you need the delete? |
| 17:40.17 | Shirik | It took me a good hour to debug a problem once |
| 17:40.35 | Shirik | because I had "unsigned char foo[200000]" in my code |
| 17:40.44 | Shirik | and it kept crashing |
| 17:40.52 | Shirik | and valgrind kept saying it was in the C library |
| 17:40.54 | krka | Tem: nope, the system will clear the memory |
| 17:41.08 | Shirik | bad krka!!!! |
| 17:41.08 | Tem | Shirik, was that bigger than StackSize? |
| 17:41.13 | Shirik | yes it was bigger htan the stack size |
| 17:41.24 | krka | bad? |
| 17:41.35 | Shirik | Yes! Despite the fact that the OS will clear the memory (in most OSes) it's bad form |
| 17:41.38 | Tem | default stack size in this system is 4096 x sizeof(int) |
| 17:41.53 | Shirik | well I'm not sure what the size :) |
| 17:41.56 | krka | an os that doesn't clean up after dead processes is a bad one :P |
| 17:42.02 | Shirik | or a simple one |
| 17:42.10 | Tem | I'm in a very simple OS |
| 17:42.13 | Tem | it's possible it doesn't |
| 17:42.15 | krka | but yeah, i agree it's bad to not clean up manually |
| 17:42.20 | krka | Tem: windows? |
| 17:42.24 | Tem | NachOS |
| 17:42.24 | Cide | lolol |
| 17:42.54 | Shirik | Besides if you don't clean up after yourself |
| 17:42.57 | krka | shirik: i am just saying that he may not _need_ the delete, but he probably should anyway |
| 17:42.59 | Shirik | it's harder to use valgrind :P |
| 17:43.29 | Shirik | so this is really cool |
| 17:43.32 | Shirik | I have two "SafePass" options |
| 17:43.40 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, shirik |
| 17:43.41 | Shirik | Either I can have an authenticator code send as a text message to my phone |
| 17:43.48 | Shirik | or I can get a new card with the screen built in to the card |
| 17:43.57 | Lopeppeppy | New card!!! |
| 17:44.48 | Tem | Shirik, new card sounds pure awesome |
| 17:45.03 | Tem | however, if you lose the card... |
| 17:45.50 | Shirik | If I lose the card I have other problems |
| 17:47.26 | Tem | heh |
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| 17:48.31 | Lunessa | Station |
| 17:49.47 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa dear. |
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| 17:53.23 | Shirik | trade for nothing? |
| 17:53.37 | Shirik | I do supposedly have a paycheck at student employment |
| 17:53.40 | |Jelly| | Oh trust me, I'm coming out on top of this deal. |
| 17:53.43 | Shirik | but I really need a real job |
| 17:53.48 | nevcairiel | nothing is good for a month or so, after that you're bored to hell |
| 17:54.12 | Shirik | I'm not really bored to hell, it's just taking forever to pay off credit cards with $100/mo |
| 17:54.20 | Shirik | I don't have any other reason for that |
| 17:54.27 | Shirik | I promise you, I already have a lot to do; I'm not bored |
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| 17:54.53 | nevcairiel | You still have stuff to do for your classes? |
| 17:54.59 | Shirik | you have no idea |
| 17:55.08 | nevcairiel | Then you're not at nothing =P |
| 17:55.10 | Shirik | Last sunday I logged 13 hours working on a project |
| 17:55.31 | Shirik | And it wasn't even my part of a project |
| 17:55.32 | nevcairiel | I'm writing my exams right now, after that i have a month of nothign coming up until the next semester starts |
| 18:00.18 | Shirik | for f in EnumerateFrames do f:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", 1, 1); end |
| 18:00.21 | NeoTron | |Jelly|: use deathgrip, works great to move everything from critters to flesh giants... sure it works on the UI too |
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| 18:00.48 | |Jelly| | kek |
| 18:10.56 | Lunessa | Shirik: Did you really want |Jelly| moving everything to the top left corner of his interface all at once? |
| 18:11.04 | Shirik | yup |
| 18:11.09 | Shirik | he said he wanted everything to move |
| 18:11.36 | |Jelly| | Where did I say "everything" Shirik? |
| 18:11.41 | Shirik | well |
| 18:11.45 | Shirik | ok |
| 18:11.48 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 18:11.50 | Shirik | you didn't specify anything in particular |
| 18:11.58 | Shirik | so I assumed you wanted the whole UI to move |
| 18:12.12 | |Jelly| | THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR ASSUMING! |
| 18:12.21 | Shirik | fun? |
| 18:12.25 | Shirik | I'll assume more often then |
| 18:12.39 | nevcairiel | Your UI probably looks funky if you run that script |
| 18:13.17 | nevcairiel | should probably clear points too |
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| 18:17.59 | Shirik | does 0 still dial operator? |
| 18:18.00 | NeoTron | would be funny to make an addon that moves stuff around randomly or as you try to click it.. although probably would be considered a bad thing :P |
| 18:18.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'd think it was awesome... but only to suggest to other people. |
| 18:18.27 | Shirik | a button that runs away from your mouse |
| 18:18.30 | sacarasc | Shirik: Not in my country |
| 18:18.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:19.08 | Shirik | NeoTron, I might have to do that now |
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| 18:19.15 | NeoTron | hehe |
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| 18:22.25 | Shirik | I give up |
| 18:22.32 | Shirik | I'm not answering any more questions about why the UI manager doesn't work |
| 18:23.15 | Lopeppeppy | "Because I said so." |
| 18:24.15 | Lunessa | A nice OnEnter that that randomly generates 2 numbers and uses them for X,Y and does a new setPoint? |
| 18:24.16 | AckisWork | can you setpoint so it's relative to the mouse cursor? |
| 18:24.23 | Shirik | I wouldn't use setpoint |
| 18:24.35 | Shirik | well I would |
| 18:24.41 | Shirik | but I wouldn't make it relative to the mouse cursor |
| 18:24.47 | Shirik | instead I would look up the mouse coordinates and place it on UIParent |
| 18:25.01 | Lunessa | AckisWork I don't know. I'm just taking a stab at it as a mildly interesting joke. |
| 18:25.41 | AckisWork | hmm... well the situation is that I have two tooltips beside each other and I want you to customize where they're positioned... I'm using setpoints instead of anchors |
| 18:25.43 | Lunessa | Shirik: Just as long as you trigger the move every time the mouse enters the frame - so that you end up chasing the damned thing all over the screen. |
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| 18:26.19 | Shirik | oh is this a completely different question, Ackis? |
| 18:26.21 | Shirik | AckisWork* |
| 18:26.45 | Shirik | Lunessa: I have it kinda planned out in my head |
| 18:26.50 | AckisWork | just giving background to see if I'm approaching the solution correctly |
| 18:26.55 | Shirik | I would GetMouseFocus(), verify it's not WorldFrame |
| 18:26.57 | AckisWork | http://paste.wowace.com/245/ |
| 18:27.06 | Shirik | if not, traverse back through parents until the parent is UIParent |
| 18:27.19 | Shirik | then move that frame one pixel in the direction that the mouse moved into the frame |
| 18:27.22 | AckisWork | i didn't quite get the difference between anchors and points |
| 18:27.56 | Shirik | you can anchor to the mouse if that's what you're asking |
| 18:28.32 | Lunessa | Points = position relative to an anchor - sort of as a rule of thumb. |
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| 18:30.17 | Lunessa | And today is Ysondre - "The strands of LIFE have been severed!" |
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| 18:47.53 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/528-Grandia-III << those are oddly fun |
| 18:48.15 | alestane | The Grandia games? |
| 18:48.36 | foxlit | no, the unskippable narration. |
| 18:48.44 | alestane | Or the Escapist? |
| 18:49.22 | foxlit | Escapist is awesome, but not "oddly fun" :) |
| 18:49.35 | foxlit | (the video series, however, is) |
| 18:49.49 | alestane | So, they MST3K a cinematic sequence? |
| 18:50.07 | foxlit | More or less |
| 18:51.56 | Shirik | Any recommendations on a very minimal recovery CD? |
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| 18:52.02 | Nizomi | hi |
| 18:52.04 | Shirik | Need something that can let me reinstall grub |
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| 18:52.29 | Lopeppeppy | Um... a fork? It's just food, dear, not that complex. |
| 18:52.37 | Nizomi | so whats the reason when an addon that uses channels for communication suddenly gets it channel in wrong places (like /1 instead of /5) and you can see the codes posted by other players (usually it would hide these) |
| 18:52.46 | Hirsute | Shirik: looked at this: http://www.sysresccd.org/ |
| 18:52.47 | Hirsute | ? |
| 18:52.47 | Nizomi | (even seeing the codes once it gets back to /5) |
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| 18:54.04 | Shirik | too big, Hiru |
| 18:54.07 | Shirik | Hirsute* |
| 18:54.15 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. |
| 18:54.20 | Hirsute | How little are you wanting, Shirik? |
| 18:54.29 | Shirik | preferably under 50MB |
| 18:54.38 | Hirsute | let's see... |
| 18:55.33 | Nizomi | meh that's so annoying, it is like always the same "oh, what does this addon do?" -> "hey cool, lemme try it *installs and starts wow*" -> "niiice" -> uses for a while -> addon starts to have weird bugs ~.~ |
| 18:56.04 | p3lim | name a program to clean crap on xp |
| 18:56.19 | Adys | Shirik: wasnt there some dos loader that did pretty much just that? |
| 18:56.49 | Hirsute | Shirik: This might work for you: http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ |
| 18:57.21 | Hirsute | If not, this page lists a lot of small linux distros, some are designed for recovery: http://bengross.com/smallunix.html |
| 18:58.18 | Adys | wow fail |
| 18:58.26 | Adys | they include firefox in a "small distro"? |
| 18:58.32 | Adys | gimme a break :/ |
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| 19:00.36 | Hirsute | I don't vouch for anything there personally, as SysRescueCD has always worked fine for me, but it's something *shrug* |
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| 19:01.36 | zenzelezz | we use m0n0wall for our office firewall/gateway, it's decent |
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| 19:02.09 | Shirik | well I've always used Finnix since I moved to Linode |
| 19:02.34 | Shirik | you know, it's really sad |
| 19:02.39 | Shirik | It used to take 20 minutes to download a song |
| 19:02.45 | zenzelezz | that is sad |
| 19:02.46 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 19:02.54 | Shirik | now I'm mad that it's going to take me 2 minutes to download this 110MB file |
| 19:03.21 | sacarasc | Wow, slow |
| 19:06.18 | Lunessa | Don't make me think fondly of real-time chat at 300bps. |
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| 19:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | I threw out a 1200 baud modem when I moved last year... |
| 19:09.38 | Shirik | why!! |
| 19:09.42 | Lunessa | Oh Lopeppeppy, such a lovely thing to throw out. It would have made an excelent door-stop, paper-weight or projectile weapon. |
| 19:09.54 | Shirik | Sell it to museum imo |
| 19:10.42 | Lopeppeppy | Get rid of crap, IMO. |
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| 19:12.32 | Adys | send it to me, imo |
| 19:12.33 | Adys | :P |
| 19:14.41 | AbsolutRayne | If my T7 Shoulders dont drop tonight |
| 19:14.45 | AbsolutRayne | I seriously might cry. |
| 19:14.54 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: ;_; |
| 19:14.56 | |Jelly| | Buy them imo |
| 19:15.20 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: hah...I offered to buy my 7.5, but the guy didnt take the offer |
| 19:15.45 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowwiki.com/Emblem_of_Valor Buy them imo. |
| 19:16.05 | AbsolutRayne | |Jelly|: Im in a 10 man guild, sorry I dont hit 25 minus the occasional pug. |
| 19:16.32 | |Jelly| | [13:14]<AbsolutRayne>|Jelly|: hah...I offered to buy my 7.5, but the guy didnt take the offer <-- Sorry, I assumed |
| 19:16.41 | |Jelly| | See Shirik? Assuming is fun! |
| 19:17.00 | AbsolutRayne | However, since my guild is merging with another, 25s might be within our grasp |
| 19:17.31 | sacarasc | Don't do it! |
| 19:17.47 | AbsolutRayne | sacarasc: Its a trap? |
| 19:17.53 | sacarasc | It could be! |
| 19:18.07 | AbsolutRayne | :< |
| 19:18.08 | sacarasc | At the very least, it could be a tarp |
| 19:18.15 | AbsolutRayne | Or a carp/ |
| 19:18.17 | AbsolutRayne | ? |
| 19:18.23 | AbsolutRayne | Great now I want to go fishing |
| 19:18.40 | sacarasc | My work here is done |
| 19:18.54 | Lopeppeppy | I'm hungry. |
| 19:19.00 | Lunessa | It's a trick. Get an Axe. |
| 19:19.23 | sacarasc | :D |
| 19:19.27 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: I has Corn pops |
| 19:20.30 | AbsolutRayne | nomnomnom |
| 19:20.35 | AbsolutRayne | afk 10-15 mins |
| 19:21.27 | Lopeppeppy | I have... water. |
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| 19:24.46 | foxlit | "Hearth is a simple, lightweight Ace addon." "No frills coding. Simple and lightweight." "Size: 86.96 Kb" |
| 19:25.27 | haste | notice the keywords |
| 19:25.41 | haste | Simple, Lightweight, Ace |
| 19:26.39 | sacarasc | What does it do that requires almost 90kb? |
| 19:26.59 | haste | check if you used your hearthstone |
| 19:27.14 | foxlit | "Reminds you to restock on consumables when you arrive at your home town." |
| 19:28.08 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 19:28.19 | Arrowmaster | sounds like the welcome home tutorial with the message changed |
| 19:28.31 | foxlit | There's a welcome home tutorial? |
| 19:28.41 | Arrowmaster | it probably has all of Ace3 embedded and doesnt use most of it |
| 19:28.53 | Cide | of course it does |
| 19:29.19 | Cide | and that's why you never begin coding with ace or any other framework |
| 19:29.19 | nevcairiel | WelcomeHome is just a tutorial to show ace usage, notifying you when you reach your hearth location |
| 19:30.23 | sacarasc | Check Hearth and WelcomeHome and then destroy the dreams of the person who made Hearth! |
| 19:32.50 | Nizomi | so can anyone help me with that problem? ^^ |
| 19:33.58 | Cide | no |
| 19:34.08 | Lopeppeppy | Nizomi, I would guess because they aren't coded properly, and when they don't work properly, they cause that spam. One of the RP mods used to do that to me all the time, I just stopped using it. |
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| 19:37.02 | Nizomi | Lopeppeppy: yeah, but why does it work fine and then just out of the blue it starts spamming |
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| 19:38.57 | Kirov | Nizomi - What ever the author expected to happen isn't. Depending on the addon, this could be because the author didn't properly debug the addon, or the user is using it in a way the author never intended, or a something changed either from a client patch or a server patch. |
| 19:39.42 | Nizomi | hm any good alternative to guildads then? ^^ |
| 19:39.48 | kd3 | oh wow, rare. spam that got through the gmail filter |
| 19:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | What does Guildads do? |
| 19:43.49 | Nizomi | hm main features i'm interested in: a) shows the professions and profession skill level of guildmembers who have it installed, b) you can search for an item and it will show you who can make it, and maybe the part of "trading" so you can place an request or you can say that you have that item and others will see the requests/giveaway thingies |
| 19:52.32 | Nizomi | why do addons keep using channel communication anyway? didn't blizz implement somethign for that? |
| 19:53.16 | MoonWolf | yes, and , what addons still do that ? |
| 19:53.53 | Shirik|AFK | I fail at grubbage |
| 19:53.59 | Shirik|AFK | any masters of grub-install here? |
| 19:54.50 | Nizomi | MoonWolf: guildads xD |
| 19:55.19 | Lunessa | Nizomi & MoonWolf - Some AddOns still need to communicate with users who a) aren't in your guild, b) aren't in your raid, or c) aren't in your party. |
| 19:55.26 | Nizomi | atleast judging by spam of other guild-ads users in format GA<weird string thingy will semi-overlapping characters> |
| 19:55.42 | MoonWolf | Lunessa, this is true |
| 19:56.11 | Cide | you are tur |
| 19:56.13 | Cide | true |
| 19:56.17 | Cide | fail |
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| 20:00.15 | Arrowmaster | Shirik|AFK: why? |
| 20:00.32 | Shirik | I'm trying to reinstall grub (which Windows 7 wrote over) using a live CD |
| 20:00.40 | Shirik | grub-install is reporting... |
| 20:01.20 | Shirik | grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / |
| 20:01.27 | Shirik | grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/ |
| 20:01.34 | Shirik | Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device. |
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| 20:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, THIS is how to be a dragon.. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0628.html |
| 20:02.36 | Shirik | do I need to chroot to the boot drive? |
| 20:02.51 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: maybe |
| 20:02.56 | End | can you pass it the device? |
| 20:03.12 | End | or you can tell it |
| 20:03.21 | End | --root-directory=/mnt/whatever |
| 20:03.32 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: are you using a gentoo livecd? |
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| 20:03.38 | Shirik | no not gentoo |
| 20:03.44 | End | ok, first question |
| 20:03.47 | Shirik | though the distro is gentoo |
| 20:03.47 | End | is your boot drive mounted? |
| 20:03.50 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:03.56 | End | where is it mounted to? |
| 20:04.03 | Shirik | to /mnt/sdb |
| 20:04.04 | Shirik | to /mnt/sdb1 |
| 20:04.09 | Arrowmaster | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 |
| 20:04.09 | End | hm |
| 20:04.32 | Shirik | so you think |
| 20:04.34 | Arrowmaster | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120079 |
| 20:04.40 | Arrowmaster | google gives lots of good results |
| 20:04.42 | Shirik | grub-install --root-directory /mnt/sdb1 /dev/sdb |
| 20:04.42 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:04.43 | Tem | GENTOO LINUX: Sometimes your life is just an example to others of what not to do. |
| 20:04.50 | End | add an = |
| 20:04.56 | Shirik | =? |
| 20:04.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:05.01 | Hirsute | Tem: Heh. I like Gentoo *shrug* |
| 20:05.04 | End | but yeah, see if that helps |
| 20:05.12 | End | I'm just going off the manpage and your errors here |
| 20:05.29 | Shirik | "no error reported" let's see what happens |
| 20:05.46 | nevcairiel | i usually used grub directly |
| 20:05.48 | durcyn | i wasn't aware grub-install had an equivalent to root(hdX) |
| 20:05.49 | nevcairiel | instead of grub-install |
| 20:05.50 | Tem | I would like to add that Gnome Do is fucking awesome |
| 20:06.03 | Shirik | I wasn't aware there was an alternative to grub-install |
| 20:06.08 | nevcairiel | just start grub |
| 20:06.14 | Lopeppeppy | Tem... what is a Gnome Do? |
| 20:06.27 | Robsato | Is there a way to check if you are in a vehicle? I tried, IsUsingVehicleControls() but that does not seem to work |
| 20:06.41 | End | UnitIsInVehicle or something like that? |
| 20:06.42 | durcyn | Shirik: grub then root(hdX,Y) ; setup (hdX) |
| 20:06.53 | Arrowmaster | Robsato: UnitHasVehicleUI("player") is usually good |
| 20:06.53 | End | that's probably not the real name of the api function |
| 20:06.55 | durcyn | and i believe it's UnitInVehicle() |
| 20:07.02 | Shirik | :( grub gave me an error |
| 20:07.06 | End | uh oh |
| 20:07.10 | nevcairiel | Shirik: even has tab-complete for the devices =P |
| 20:07.20 | End | clearly I have no idea what I was talking about when I suggested that command! |
| 20:07.27 | Shirik | well |
| 20:07.29 | Shirik | grub got installed |
| 20:07.30 | Arrowmaster | Robsato: depends on the exact circomstances you want to match though |
| 20:07.32 | Tem | Lopeppeppy, http://do.davebsd.com/ |
| 20:07.37 | Shirik | but it appears my config is wrong |
| 20:07.54 | Lopeppeppy | Hrmph. I resent Gnome Do on principle! :) |
| 20:07.56 | durcyn | grub doesn't validate configs, it just makes sure stage files are on the partition you fed it |
| 20:08.12 | Shirik | Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition |
| 20:08.15 | durcyn | if your /boot is sdb1, the grub dev name should be (hd1,0) |
| 20:08.32 | Shirik | right, and that's what I had |
| 20:08.39 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: since its installed you should be able to force it to boot by inputing the config manually in grub |
| 20:08.45 | nevcairiel | grub stuff: http://ace.pastey.net/107690 |
| 20:08.53 | nevcairiel | thats all you need to do :P |
| 20:08.55 | Shirik | root (hd1, 0) |
| 20:09.03 | Shirik | kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.25-gentoo-46 root=/dev/sdb3 |
| 20:09.19 | Robsato | UnitHasVehicleUI seems to work just fine. Thanks |
| 20:09.22 | Shirik | that... seems odd |
| 20:09.34 | nevcairiel | Shirik: why? |
| 20:09.51 | durcyn | ... -46? you've compiled that kernel 46 times? |
| 20:09.54 | Shirik | why do I use both sdb1 and sdb3? |
| 20:09.55 | nevcairiel | the root specified in grub is the boot partition |
| 20:10.02 | Arrowmaster | i have been known to use the config editor to add sh=/bin/sh and root school computers before...... |
| 20:10.06 | Hirsute | because you're defining root as two different partitions there. |
| 20:10.07 | Shirik | I did this so long ago, lol |
| 20:10.10 | nevcairiel | sdb3 is probably your / partition |
| 20:10.12 | Arrowmaster | you can do anything on boot with the editor |
| 20:10.18 | Shirik | I didn't modify this part of the config, it worked months ago |
| 20:10.43 | durcyn | Shirik: the root() line tells grub where to find stage files, it's not passed to the kernel for rootfs |
| 20:10.45 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: reboot the livecd, find your grub config and write it down |
| 20:11.03 | nevcairiel | Shirik: a default gentoo system usually gets setup with 3 partitions, sdb1 is /boot, sdb2 is swap, and sdb3 is / |
| 20:11.21 | durcyn | Shirik: it's also implicit in the kernel path, or you'd have to declare it as kernel (hd1,0)/boot/foo |
| 20:12.00 | Shirik | ok I reboot the livecd |
| 20:12.32 | Shirik | hd1 vs hd0 |
| 20:12.40 | Shirik | does that depend on which drive actually gets booted? |
| 20:12.46 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:12.59 | nevcairiel | hd0 is the first, hd1 the second |
| 20:13.42 | Shirik | ok I'll pastey my config without all the comments |
| 20:14.06 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18637190/detail.html#- |
| 20:17.23 | Lopeppeppy | Loved that, ScytheBlade1. |
| 20:19.53 | Shirik | nevcairiel / durcyn / Arrowmaster: mounted partitions + grub config: http://ace.pastey.net/107691 |
| 20:20.08 | Shirik | yes I really did type all that out |
| 20:20.16 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 20:20.26 | Shirik | hey Cide |
| 20:20.33 | Cide | can you think of an algorithm for something like... um |
| 20:20.37 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:20.37 | nevcairiel | Shirik: whats sda1 for? |
| 20:20.41 | Cide | rearranging an inventory? think diablo 2-style |
| 20:20.46 | Shirik | in all honesty, nevcairiel, I have no idea |
| 20:20.52 | nevcairiel | whats on it? |
| 20:20.55 | Shirik | These partitions were made a very long tiem ago |
| 20:20.55 | durcyn | nevcairiel: looks like his windows part |
| 20:20.58 | Cide | for optimal placement of items, given their sizes |
| 20:21.02 | Shirik | nothing |
| 20:21.02 | nevcairiel | durcyn: its ext2 |
| 20:21.09 | Arrowmaster | he has two ext2 partitions |
| 20:21.16 | Shirik | It has literally nothing ojn it |
| 20:21.18 | Arrowmaster | one is /boot |
| 20:21.26 | durcyn | then that windows rootnoverify(hd0,1) section makes less sense |
| 20:21.29 | Arrowmaster | so is /boot sdb1? |
| 20:21.31 | durcyn | unless there's an hda we don't know about |
| 20:21.50 | Shirik | yes /boot is in sdb1 |
| 20:21.53 | nevcairiel | hd(0,1) is sda2 |
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| 20:21.59 | durcyn | oh, blah |
| 20:22.08 | durcyn | nah, that's mounted too. |
| 20:22.13 | durcyn | as ntfs, i give up |
| 20:22.53 | Arrowmaster | why do you not have an initrd? |
| 20:23.08 | Shirik | whassat >.> |
| 20:23.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik: check /boot/grub/device.map |
| 20:23.18 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: you dont need one |
| 20:23.22 | durcyn | initrd's not mandatory |
| 20:23.32 | Shirik | It's ok that /boot is linked to ., right? |
| 20:23.39 | Arrowmaster | i know but i thought just about every distro used one by default |
| 20:23.46 | nevcairiel | gentoo doesnt |
| 20:23.50 | nevcairiel | unless you use genkernel |
| 20:24.15 | durcyn | Shirik: gentoo's base layout drops a nested /boot symlink inside /boot, if that's what you mean |
| 20:24.22 | Arrowmaster | fine, ill stay out of this i guess since i dont know gentoo at all |
| 20:24.22 | Shirik | (fd0) /dev/fd0, (hd0) /dev/sda, (hd1) /dev/sdb, (hd2) /dev/sdc |
| 20:24.30 | nevcairiel | ok that looks right |
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| 20:25.31 | nevcairiel | hm a simple grub install should work |
| 20:26.12 | nevcairiel | what happens if you type "root (hd1,0)" and "setup (hd0)" in a grub prompt? =P |
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| 20:26.43 | Shirik | root (hd1,0) --> Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 |
| 20:26.53 | nevcairiel | thats right |
| 20:27.03 | Shirik | setup (hd0) succeeds |
| 20:27.10 | nevcairiel | then try booting |
| 20:27.27 | Shirik | now this has to work now that it's on hd0 :P |
| 20:27.43 | nevcairiel | hd0 is your primary disk that your bios boots |
| 20:27.46 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:27.48 | nevcairiel | of course grub needs to go on there |
| 20:27.50 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:27.52 | Shirik | no |
| 20:27.57 | Shirik | I hit the boot manager before |
| 20:28.09 | Shirik | the button to select which drive to boot |
| 20:28.16 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 20:28.18 | Shirik | ok so now it worked |
| 20:28.25 | Shirik | but... it had all three options still |
| 20:28.28 | Shirik | that seems a bit odd? |
| 20:28.34 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 20:28.42 | Shirik | How did it know what configuration to use? |
| 20:28.58 | nevcairiel | you told it |
| 20:29.00 | durcyn | it uses whatever you set as the default |
| 20:29.07 | Shirik | heh............... |
| 20:29.09 | nevcairiel | root (hd1,0) told it to look on sdb1 |
| 20:29.12 | Shirik | While booting... |
| 20:29.15 | durcyn | which i assume is 'default 0' as in the sample grub config |
| 20:29.17 | Shirik | Configuring wireless network for wlan0 |
| 20:29.28 | Arrowmaster | for grub, unlike lilo, you just point it to a parition and it reads all the configs from the partition when it boots |
| 20:29.28 | Shirik | wlan0 connected to ESSID "belkin54g" - assuming DHCP |
| 20:29.37 | Shirik | wlan0 received address 192.168.2.7/24 |
| 20:29.37 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:29.43 | Shirik | silly neighbors |
| 20:29.45 | nevcairiel | i'm assuming, not yours? |
| 20:29.48 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:29.59 | nevcairiel | free interwebz |
| 20:30.10 | Arrowmaster | see if it has the default admin password too! |
| 20:30.40 | Shirik | So... the only thing we did differently was install to hd0 instead of hd1 |
| 20:30.44 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:30.56 | Shirik | Windows boots too so that's good |
| 20:31.06 | nevcairiel | I can't be sure you did it right the first time, but sure, if that works for you =P |
| 20:31.27 | Shirik | well thanks |
| 20:31.55 | Shirik | now if only I can figure out why I can't get the good looking boot screen |
| 20:31.57 | Shirik | what's it called |
| 20:32.15 | Lopeppeppy | The good looking boot screen. |
| 20:32.16 | durcyn | do you have a splash directive in your menu.lst? |
| 20:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | Bios? |
| 20:32.27 | Shirik | no, but I'm not talking about gentoo, durcyn |
| 20:32.29 | nevcairiel | Shirik: frame buffer? |
| 20:32.31 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:32.33 | Shirik | that's it |
| 20:32.42 | Shirik | er |
| 20:32.52 | durcyn | oh. the graphical progress bar instead of init output, that crap? |
| 20:32.56 | nevcairiel | i've had good experiences with uvesafb, a userspace framebuffer |
| 20:33.04 | Shirik | echo (15:32:10) (@Shirik) no, but I'm not talking about gentoo, durcyn | sed s/gentoo/grub/ |
| 20:33.18 | Shirik | well I want both durcyn :) |
| 20:33.28 | durcyn | well, the grub bit is just an xpm |
| 20:33.35 | durcyn | the init portion is bootsplash |
| 20:34.01 | durcyn | and there should be a howto for it on the gentoo site |
| 20:34.10 | Shirik | there probalby is |
| 20:34.13 | nevcairiel | cant stand the 80x25 default console, even my server installs get a damn framebuffer for when i attach a screen :P |
| 20:34.14 | Shirik | I just haven't gotten around to do it |
| 20:34.27 | Cide | >>> int("abc") |
| 20:34.27 | Cide | Cide: ValueError("invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'abc'",) |
| 20:35.42 | Shirik | ok now to download and install netbeans onto gentoo while I take a shower then I can do tons of work ^_^ |
| 20:36.02 | nevcairiel | I hope netbeans is no source install =P |
| 20:36.12 | nevcairiel | or you'll have more time to spend |
| 20:36.38 | Shirik | I don't relaly know |
| 20:36.38 | Industrial | netbeans AAH |
| 20:36.40 | Shirik | never used it except for windows |
| 20:36.51 | Shirik | heh |
| 20:36.53 | Industrial | nah, netbeans is a decent IDE actually >_> |
| 20:36.56 | Shirik | I love my wireless config |
| 20:37.04 | nevcairiel | I dont like netbeans personally |
| 20:37.06 | Shirik | It just spammed my screen |
| 20:37.09 | Shirik | like with 10 different routers |
| 20:37.14 | Shirik | 9 of which says "WEP key is not set" |
| 20:37.24 | Shirik | 9 smart neighbors, 1 stupid one |
| 20:37.27 | Shirik | well, 8 smart neighbors |
| 20:37.41 | nevcairiel | they use WEP? how is that smart |
| 20:37.50 | Shirik | I think it just said that |
| 20:37.54 | Shirik | because I use WPA and it still said WEP |
| 20:38.10 | durcyn | eh, netbeans seems to be in portage |
| 20:38.23 | Shirik | really? |
| 20:38.25 | Shirik | coolio |
| 20:38.32 | nevcairiel | probably a binary package then |
| 20:38.35 | durcyn | [N] dev-util/netbeans ((~)6.5-r4(6.5)): NetBeans IDE for Java |
| 20:39.09 | Industrial | (and php and ruby) |
| 20:39.17 | durcyn | might need to toss it in package.keywords though, looks like the x86 version is a major rev behind |
| 20:39.20 | Shirik | gentoo doesn't do binary packages :P |
| 20:39.28 | nevcairiel | for some stuff it does |
| 20:39.30 | Shirik | Really, 6.5 is masked? |
| 20:39.36 | durcyn | not masked, just ~x86 |
| 20:39.36 | Shirik | it's been out for a while |
| 20:39.50 | nevcairiel | Open Office has a bin package, because its so huge and has build problems on some systems, heh |
| 20:39.56 | Shirik | that's masked, no? |
| 20:40.18 | durcyn | it's a keyword mask, not a hard mask, it's for unstable/untested/etc |
| 20:40.39 | Shirik | yeah I know |
| 20:40.39 | durcyn | basically it means the ebuild maintainer is lazy |
| 20:40.41 | Shirik | still masked :P |
| 20:40.50 | Shirik | I just say masked or hard masked |
| 20:40.54 | durcyn | fair enough |
| 20:40.55 | Fisker- | yay |
| 20:40.59 | Fisker- | 8,3k dps on thaddius :3 |
| 20:41.44 | Shirik | stop haxoring |
| 20:42.19 | Fisker- | whats hax about it? |
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| 20:46.52 | Gnarfoz | it being Thaddius i |
| 20:46.53 | Gnarfoz | s |
| 20:49.38 | nevcairiel | Anyone ever tried installing a x86-OSX on a stock x86 PC ? |
| 20:50.46 | Fisker- | being twice as stupid as a regular mac user |
| 20:51.03 | Shirik | there's something blocking you nevcairiel |
| 20:51.10 | Shirik | however, there's supposedly a way to break it |
| 20:51.30 | Tem | >>> "".join(map(chr,[68, 105, 115, 114, 101, 103, 97, 114, 100, 32, 116, 104, 97, 116, 59, 32, 73, 32, 115, 117, 99, 107, 32, 99, 111, 99, 107, 115, 46])) |
| 20:51.31 | Cide | Tem: 'Disregard that; I suck cocks.' |
| 20:51.35 | Tem | tee hee |
| 20:51.38 | Shirik | ... what? |
| 20:52.01 | foxlit | Tem: string.char == faster :) |
| 20:52.22 | nevcairiel | that was python, not lua |
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| 20:52.28 | foxlit | So? |
| 20:53.03 | Tem | (I really just wanted to test my ping sound) |
| 20:53.11 | Tem | (and it works. yay.) |
| 20:54.02 | durcyn | nevcairiel: i've been fiddling with a hackintosh lately, yeah |
| 20:54.37 | durcyn | all you really need is the right hardware, since darwin drivers are severely limited |
| 20:54.40 | Tekkub | durcyn, I got sick of the fucking beachball |
| 20:55.04 | Tekkub | and my main monitor had a nice little flicker that worried me |
| 20:55.08 | Tem | that sentence needs a comma and an interrobang, Tekkub |
| 20:55.31 | Tekkub | interrowhat? |
| 20:55.59 | foxlit | ~wikipedia interrobang |
| 20:56.00 | Tem | "I got sick of the fucking, beachball‽" |
| 20:56.10 | Tekkub | inter-racial banging? |
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| 20:57.05 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lukiDn3GZN0 |
| 20:57.06 | nevcairiel | interrobang == ?! |
| 20:57.07 | Adys | nevermind the singers |
| 20:57.08 | nevcairiel | ^ |
| 20:57.14 | Adys | the lyrics are awesome |
| 20:59.00 | ckknight | >>> import os |
| 20:59.00 | Cide | ckknight: ImportError('Cannot import module os!',) |
| 20:59.05 | ckknight | import shutil |
| 20:59.07 | ckknight | oops |
| 20:59.09 | ckknight | >>> import shutil |
| 20:59.09 | Cide | ckknight: ImportError('Cannot import module shutil!',) |
| 20:59.13 | ckknight | no fun |
| 20:59.19 | ckknight | >>> import subprocess |
| 20:59.19 | Cide | ckknight: ImportError('Cannot import module subprocess!',) |
| 20:59.21 | ckknight | lamer. |
| 20:59.33 | Adys | theres a whitelist of importable modules |
| 20:59.35 | ckknight | >>> while True: pass |
| 20:59.48 | ckknight | and now we wait. |
| 20:59.54 | Adys | he didnt implement protection for infinite loops i think |
| 20:59.55 | nevcairiel | shouldn't take too long |
| 21:00.04 | Adys | >>> raise SystemExit |
| 21:00.04 | Cide | Adys: SystemExit() |
| 21:00.14 | Adys | >>> SystemExit() |
| 21:00.14 | Cide | Adys: SystemExit() |
| 21:00.18 | nevcairiel | if its smart, its threaded |
| 21:00.31 | ckknight | but now he's using extra CPU |
| 21:00.32 | Adys | i dont remember |
| 21:00.47 | ckknight | >>> import itertools |
| 21:00.47 | Cide | ckknight: ImportError('Cannot import module itertools!',) |
| 21:00.47 | Adys | >>> import random |
| 21:00.47 | Cide | Adys: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:00.49 | ckknight | damn |
| 21:00.57 | ckknight | Cide, allow itertools to be imported. |
| 21:00.57 | Adys | eh? |
| 21:00.59 | Adys | Cide: ping |
| 21:01.08 | Adys | >>> import math |
| 21:01.09 | Cide | Adys: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:01.14 | Adys | buggy imports |
| 21:01.17 | nevcairiel | now you broke it |
| 21:01.24 | nevcairiel | >>> import time |
| 21:01.24 | Cide | nevcairiel: ImportError('Cannot import module time!',) |
| 21:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 21:01.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Always interesting opening wowinsider and seeing Cog's license plate :P |
| 21:01.56 | nevcairiel | >>> print __file__ |
| 21:01.56 | Cide | nevcairiel: NameError("name '__file__' is not defined",) |
| 21:02.10 | ckknight | >>> print __builtins__ |
| 21:02.10 | Cide | ckknight: '{\'all\': <built-in function all>, \'help\': Type help() for interactive help, or help(object) for help about object., \'vars\': <built-in function vars>, \'SyntaxError\': <type \'exception... Message too long |
| 21:02.15 | Cide | pong |
| 21:02.24 | ckknight | >>> print __builtins__.keys() |
| 21:02.25 | Cide | ckknight: "['all', 'help', 'vars', 'SyntaxError', 'unicode', 'sorted', 'isinstance', 'copyright', 'NameError', 'dict', 'input', 'oct', 'SystemExit', 'StandardError', 'repr', 'UnicodeDecodeError', 'Ind... Message too long |
| 21:02.49 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: which one is that? H0TF1X ? |
| 21:03.17 | Adys | >>> __builtins__.vars() |
| 21:03.17 | Cide | Adys: AttributeError("'dict' object has no attribute 'vars'",) |
| 21:03.18 | ckknight | >>> range(2 ** 31 - 1) |
| 21:03.18 | Cide | ckknight: MemoryError() |
| 21:03.38 | ckknight | Adys, .values() |
| 21:03.43 | Adys | >>> raise KeyboardInterrupt |
| 21:03.44 | Cide | Adys: KeyboardInterrupt() |
| 21:03.48 | Adys | pff no fun |
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| 21:03.56 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Tem] by ChanServ |
| 21:04.09 | nevcairiel | I think he doesn't want to break |
| 21:04.15 | Adys | shame |
| 21:04.17 | Adys | breaking is fun |
| 21:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: the "for gnomeregan" one |
| 21:05.59 | ckknight | >>> import sys |
| 21:06.00 | Cide | ckknight: ImportError('Cannot import module sys!',) |
| 21:06.07 | ckknight | what modules are acceptable? |
| 21:06.08 | ckknight | bah |
| 21:06.53 | ckknight | also, python doesn't seem great for a codebot like that, because of the whitespace handling |
| 21:07.08 | nevcairiel | functions are rather hard to do :P |
| 21:07.12 | Adys | ckknight: random, math and __future__ |
| 21:07.36 | ckknight | from __future__ import skynet |
| 21:07.43 | ckknight | >>> from __future__ import skynet |
| 21:07.43 | Cide | ckknight: SyntaxError('future feature skynet is not defined',) |
| 21:07.49 | ckknight | ...yet! |
| 21:07.57 | Adys | >>> from __future__ import braces |
| 21:07.58 | Cide | Adys: SyntaxError('not a chance',) |
| 21:08.01 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 21:08.09 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 21:08.17 | Adys | ckknight: def foo(**pargs):\n\tprint pargs\n\nfoo(range(10)) |
| 21:08.21 | Adys | er |
| 21:08.26 | Adys | >>> def foo(**pargs):\n\tprint pargs\n\nfoo(range(10)) |
| 21:08.27 | Cide | Adys: TypeError('foo() takes exactly 0 arguments (1 given)',) |
| 21:08.39 | Adys | >>> def foo(*pargs):\n\tprint pargs\n\nfoo(range(10)) |
| 21:08.39 | Cide | Adys: '([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9],)' |
| 21:08.45 | Adys | works fine |
| 21:08.46 | ckknight | ick |
| 21:09.01 | Adys | but yeah whitespace handling is "erg" on irc |
| 21:09.38 | Adys | >>> def foo(*pargs):\n\tprint pargs\n\nfoo(*range(10)) |
| 21:09.39 | Cide | Adys: '(0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)' |
| 21:09.43 | Adys | too much beer |
| 21:10.20 | Adys | anyone uses qt/pyqt4? |
| 21:11.20 | zenzelezz | always funny when websites look like this: http://www.linuxpackages.net/ |
| 21:11.42 | Adys | mysqfail |
| 21:14.08 | ckknight | >>> import antigravity |
| 21:14.09 | Cide | ckknight: ImportError('Cannot import module antigravity!',) |
| 21:14.15 | Kaelten | bah, he needs to allow that one |
| 21:14.31 | Adys | >>> from __future__ import antigravity |
| 21:14.31 | Cide | Adys: SyntaxError('future feature antigravity is not defined',) |
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| 21:14.48 | Kaelten | >>> from __future__ import with_statement |
| 21:14.48 | Cide | Kaelten: ImportError('Can only import __future__.braces!',) |
| 21:14.59 | Adys | haha |
| 21:15.04 | Kaelten | from __future__ import braces |
| 21:15.08 | Kaelten | >>> from __future__ import braces |
| 21:15.08 | Cide | Kaelten: SyntaxError('not a chance',) |
| 21:15.30 | Kaelten | >>> print open |
| 21:15.30 | Cide | Kaelten: NameError("name 'open' is not defined",) |
| 21:15.50 | Adys | so no one here uses qt4? |
| 21:16.07 | Cide | I don't like the print solution |
| 21:16.13 | Cide | it turns everything into strings |
| 21:16.29 | Kaelten | >>> open |
| 21:16.29 | Cide | Kaelten: NameError("name 'open' is not defined",) |
| 21:16.36 | Kaelten | >>> file |
| 21:16.37 | Cide | Kaelten: NameError("name 'file' is not defined",) |
| 21:17.45 | Kaelten | >>> for x in list(range(1, 99999999999999)): x+=x^x |
| 21:17.46 | Cide | Kaelten: OverflowError('range() result has too many items',) |
| 21:17.50 | Kaelten | nice |
| 21:17.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:17.59 | Kaelten | >>> for x in list(range(1, 9999999)): x+=x^x |
| 21:18.05 | Cide | btw |
| 21:18.14 | Cide | there is no protection against infinite loops yet |
| 21:18.17 | Cide | Kaelten: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:18.18 | Cide | so don't crash me for no reason :P |
| 21:18.23 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:18.29 | Kaelten | yeah, ck already hit you with a while True: pass |
| 21:18.35 | Cide | he did? |
| 21:18.38 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 21:18.46 | Cide | the thread is still running then |
| 21:19.10 | Kaelten | >>> True = False |
| 21:19.11 | Cide | Kaelten: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:19.15 | Taroven | Hm. Anyone able to point me at how to open Dominos' profile page? Can't seem to find it for the life of me (it just kinda poofed one day). |
| 21:19.30 | Cide | that's an interesting error |
| 21:19.40 | ckknight | >>> None = None |
| 21:19.40 | Cide | ckknight: SyntaxError('assignment to None', ('<string>', 1, None, None)) |
| 21:19.58 | Kaelten | >>> True = 2 |
| 21:19.58 | Cide | Kaelten: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:20.07 | Kaelten | >>> xrange = 5 |
| 21:20.07 | Cide | Kaelten: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:20.11 | Kaelten | heh |
| 21:21.13 | Kaelten | >>> class os(object): pass |
| 21:21.13 | Cide | Kaelten: IndexError('list index out of range',) |
| 21:21.41 | nevcairiel | something seems really broken |
| 21:21.45 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 21:21.52 | Kaelten | I'm wondering if I broke it with my range thing earlier |
| 21:21.57 | Kaelten | >>> print 5 |
| 21:21.57 | Cide | Kaelten: '5' |
| 21:22.01 | Kaelten | ok that works at least |
| 21:22.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Pizik (n=Blank@planeshift/gamemaster/Pizik) |
| 21:22.21 | Cide | the bot has a syntax error somewhere |
| 21:22.32 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:23.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik|Ecole (n=mpdelbuo@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 21:23.59 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 21:24.04 | Shirik|Ecole | yhelothar |
| 21:24.11 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: ?? |
| 21:24.13 | Lopeppeppy | Hai2U |
| 21:24.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 21:24.39 | Shirik|Ecole | is take very long time to emerge world on an OS you haven't booted in 6 months |
| 21:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes it do. |
| 21:26.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I just wish emerge --sync didn't take so long |
| 21:26.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide- (i=EAndre@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 21:26.18 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide-] by ChanServ |
| 21:26.27 | nevcairiel | sync takes long? |
| 21:26.28 | Cide- | now the bot should work better |
| 21:26.45 | nevcairiel | >>> print 'hello' |
| 21:26.45 | Cide- | nevcairiel: 'hello' |
| 21:26.52 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> raise SystemExit; |
| 21:26.52 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: SystemExit() |
| 21:27.03 | nevcairiel | >>> class foo(object): pass |
| 21:27.03 | Cide- | nevcairiel: None |
| 21:27.09 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> SystemExit() |
| 21:27.09 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: SystemExit() |
| 21:27.21 | cog|work | ~poke ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:27.22 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ScytheBlade1, pokes ScytheBlade1 repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 21:27.24 | cog|work | wtb link |
| 21:27.28 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: sec and I'll find it |
| 21:27.34 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: Yes it does :( |
| 21:27.41 | Shirik|Ecole | It may just be because there's more to sync |
| 21:28.04 | durcyn | sync should be fast after the initial pull |
| 21:28.09 | Lopeppeppy | My grand-boss is made of the dumb |
| 21:28.45 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: found it :) |
| 21:28.49 | cog|work | http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/02/03/more-wow-license-plates-from-our-readers/ |
| 21:29.00 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 21:29.15 | Shirik|Ecole | durcyn: Well |
| 21:29.20 | Shirik|Ecole | It hasn't been synced in about 6 months |
| 21:29.23 | Shirik|Ecole | :P |
| 21:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | Ta! |
| 21:29.29 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 21:29.38 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18) |
| 21:29.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So the vast majority of my guild up and left Doomhammer for Tich |
| 21:29.43 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't use this OS! |
| 21:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.52 | Shirik|Ecole | yay ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:29.56 | Shirik|Ecole | now you can come to my server! |
| 21:29.57 | Shirik|Ecole | we're pro |
| 21:30.03 | ScytheBlade1 | This is possibly the most amazing "bye server" thread I've EVER SEEN: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910581426&sid=1 |
| 21:30.37 | nevcairiel | gives you a forum error "Server Error" :P |
| 21:31.11 | ScytheBlade1 | (Oh, note: I'm the 'official' GM) |
| 21:31.46 | durcyn | you can be the king of france for all i care, linky no worky. |
| 21:31.49 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 21:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid forums |
| 21:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I gave withdraw rights to *one* other person, my co-GM |
| 21:32.24 | ScytheBlade1 | He withdrew everything from the guild bank last night and transfered over |
| 21:32.24 | nevcairiel | bank empty? |
| 21:32.42 | nevcairiel | of course he did, he doesn't expect to ever see you again |
| 21:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | We had a guildie hop on a forum alt, post, "@DHEG BANK NINJA" |
| 21:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it was intentional |
| 21:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It's fine |
| 21:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Evidently I had people from other guilds asking guildies trying to get my phone number to log on and stop it (word spreads fast?) |
| 21:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | We trolled the entire server on our way out |
| 21:33.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:33.47 | Fisker- | nevcairiel |
| 21:33.49 | ScytheBlade1 | entire. server. |
| 21:33.52 | Fisker- | you are now manually breathing |
| 21:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | refresh, thread worked for me |
| 21:34.09 | KarlKFI | Dheg stole the bank? |
| 21:34.12 | KarlKFI | gfg |
| 21:34.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Read that thread |
| 21:34.27 | foxlit | dwho? |
| 21:34.58 | ScytheBlade1 | KarlKFI: according to everything I have, there will be maybe 4 people left there |
| 21:35.10 | KarlKFI | lawl GET SAWN |
| 21:35.19 | durcyn | 3 pages is nothing, psh. |
| 21:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That's because he posted on page two, laughing |
| 21:35.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik|Ecole (n=mpdelbuo@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 21:35.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 21:35.47 | Tem | SomeStruct whatever = new SomeStruct[dunno]; |
| 21:35.51 | Tem | delete whatever; |
| 21:36.02 | Tem | are the instances of SomeStruct deleted? |
| 21:36.09 | Cide- | delete [] whatever; |
| 21:36.10 | Cide- | I think? |
| 21:36.10 | Tem | or just the frst? |
| 21:36.13 | End | wow, ScytheBlade1 still has the same sig |
| 21:36.15 | Tem | ah |
| 21:36.23 | End | Thunder_Child: you still don't know how to play! |
| 21:36.31 | Tem | god it's been too long since I've been in C++ |
| 21:36.33 | Shirik|Ecole | Cide is correct |
| 21:36.36 | Shirik|Ecole | you need to do delete[] |
| 21:36.37 | Tem | thanks |
| 21:36.44 | Thunder_Child | End, play what? |
| 21:36.46 | Shirik|Ecole | using delete is UB, however most OSes work with it |
| 21:36.58 | End | WoW of course! |
| 21:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | End: it's an amazing sig |
| 21:37.04 | End | :) |
| 21:37.05 | Tem | UB? |
| 21:37.09 | Tem | unholy blight? |
| 21:37.15 | Thunder_Child | uhh...oh...damit |
| 21:37.15 | Shirik|Ecole | ~UB |
| 21:37.24 | Shirik|Ecole | ~wtf UB |
| 21:37.28 | Shirik|Ecole | failure! |
| 21:37.31 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1! |
| 21:37.31 | Shirik|Ecole | Undefined Behavior |
| 21:37.35 | Cide- | purl, UB is Unholy Blight |
| 21:37.35 | purl | okay, Cide- |
| 21:37.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: ? |
| 21:37.42 | Shirik|Ecole | no, purl, UB is Undefined Behavior |
| 21:37.50 | Shirik|Ecole | purl, no, UB is Undefined Behavior |
| 21:37.51 | purl | okay, Shirik|Ecole |
| 21:37.52 | Thunder_Child | it's your fault ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:38.05 | KarlKFI | lulz, you guys are rollign off everything now? |
| 21:38.10 | KarlKFI | that's funny |
| 21:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | entirely possible |
| 21:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not even sure if I'll be joining them |
| 21:38.18 | ScytheBlade1 | 50/50 |
| 21:38.19 | KarlKFI | and awesome |
| 21:38.33 | Tem | KarlKFI, what are you talking about? |
| 21:38.34 | KarlKFI | Hybrids win in a roll all system |
| 21:38.37 | ScytheBlade1 | you read the private forums recently? |
| 21:38.40 | Cide- | pro thing about python |
| 21:38.50 | Tem | garbage collection? |
| 21:38.52 | Cide- | >>> x = 3 print 1 < x < 4 |
| 21:38.52 | Cide- | Cide-: SyntaxError('invalid syntax', ('<string>', 1, 11, 'x = 3 print 1 < x < 4')) |
| 21:38.55 | Cide- | >>> x = 3\nprint 1 < x < 4 |
| 21:38.55 | Cide- | Cide-: 'True' |
| 21:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | There's an announcement up there for whoever is sticking around DH |
| 21:39.01 | KarlKFI | not in the past few days |
| 21:39.09 | Thunder_Child | and End, yes, yes you are an addon |
| 21:39.09 | Cide- | can chain comparisons |
| 21:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | We got a pretty awesome offer from Drow for whomever is still there |
| 21:39.26 | KarlKFI | they absorbing us? |
| 21:39.27 | End | I am? awesome |
| 21:39.30 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 21:39.37 | End | then I have the authority to tell Thunder_Child that he doesn't know how to play |
| 21:39.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Read the thread, it explains it in detail |
| 21:39.52 | KarlKFI | boo reading |
| 21:39.56 | Thunder_Child | you broke out of beta End, you cant do anything |
| 21:40.34 | Shirik|Ecole | How do I make a class in python? def name:\n\tcontents? |
| 21:40.47 | End | no |
| 21:40.49 | End | class name: |
| 21:40.51 | Cide- | class Name(object):\n\tcontents |
| 21:40.54 | Shirik|Ecole | once I've done that, how do I make a new one of them? |
| 21:40.59 | End | I usually use parens to make it a new style class |
| 21:40.59 | Cide- | Name() |
| 21:41.26 | KarlKFI | ahh, their alt guild |
| 21:41.48 | KarlKFI | i might do that just to putz till 3.1 I still need like 3 pieces of loot |
| 21:41.49 | ScytheBlade1 | keep going |
| 21:42.17 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\nPRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:42.17 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: |
| 21:42.17 | Cide- | Hello, world! |
| 21:42.26 | Cide- | did it work? |
| 21:42.28 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\nQUIT :Goodbye"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:42.28 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: |
| 21:42.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:42.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide- (i=EAndre@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 21:42.37 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide-] by ChanServ |
| 21:42.45 | Cide- | you win, sir |
| 21:42.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ^_^ |
| 21:42.50 | Cide- | python is hard to sandbox :/ |
| 21:42.57 | KarlKFI | ScytheBlade1: that thread only has 1 post with any content... |
| 21:43.07 | KarlKFI | did i miss something or is it in another thread |
| 21:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | nah that thread |
| 21:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 21:43.21 | Cide- | >>> repr(repr("abc")) |
| 21:43.21 | Cide- | Cide-: '"\'abc\'"' |
| 21:43.39 | KarlKFI | "if you want to send them individually to me about the idea it'd give them at least a temporary raiding activity if that is their focus and wish." |
| 21:43.45 | ScytheBlade1 | "if you want to send them individually to me about the idea it'd give them at least a temporary raiding activity if that is their focus and wish." |
| 21:43.48 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah that |
| 21:43.49 | KarlKFI | lulz |
| 21:43.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't think that will work, Cide |
| 21:44.00 | Shirik|Ecole | can you return non-strings from repr? |
| 21:44.11 | Shirik|Ecole | er, from __repr__ |
| 21:44.13 | KarlKFI | yeah i may do that. are they still doing 2 nights a week? |
| 21:44.15 | Shirik|Ecole | if so, I could still get through it |
| 21:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | probably |
| 21:44.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Send them a tell and ask |
| 21:44.36 | KarlKFI | i'll do that tonight then |
| 21:45.14 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: try again |
| 21:45.22 | Shirik|Ecole | did you repr(repr()) ? |
| 21:45.29 | cog|work | haha http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/images/smilies/emot-jerkit.gif |
| 21:45.29 | Cide- | no, that was ugly |
| 21:45.38 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\nPRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:45.38 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:45.41 | Shirik|Ecole | haha |
| 21:45.49 | Shirik|Ecole | how did you do that? |
| 21:45.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:46.06 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\rPRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:46.06 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:46.07 | Cide- | you can still get around it |
| 21:46.14 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:46.14 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:46.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I wonder how you did that |
| 21:46.29 | Cide- | I realized now it's a stupid check |
| 21:46.39 | Cide- | just make your class inherit from BaseException and your exploit still works |
| 21:46.40 | Cide- | hmm |
| 21:46.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I dunno how to do that |
| 21:46.59 | Cide- | class foo(Exception) |
| 21:47.10 | nevcairiel | shirik needs to read a python book |
| 21:47.27 | Shirik|Ecole | The extent of my python knowledge comes from playing with Cide's bot |
| 21:47.30 | Shirik|Ecole | 100% of it |
| 21:47.30 | Cide- | >>> Exception.__repr__ |
| 21:47.30 | Cide- | Cide-: <slot wrapper '__repr__' of 'exceptions.BaseException' objects> |
| 21:47.35 | Cide- | damn you. |
| 21:48.06 | nevcairiel | python is really easy once you read the syntax once, though |
| 21:48.08 | Cide- | Exception.__slots__['__repr__'] |
| 21:48.11 | Cide- | >>> Exception.__slots__['__repr__'] |
| 21:48.11 | Cide- | Cide-: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:48.14 | Cide- | lol |
| 21:48.17 | Cide- | the fuck. |
| 21:48.34 | Cide- | >>> Exception.__slots__['__repr__'] |
| 21:48.34 | Cide- | Cide-: AttributeError("type object 'exceptions.Exception' has no attribute '__slots__'",) |
| 21:48.51 | Cide- | >>> BaseException.__slots__['__repr__'] |
| 21:48.51 | Cide- | Cide-: AttributeError("type object 'exceptions.BaseException' has no attribute '__slots__'",) |
| 21:49.17 | Cide- | >>> BaseException.__repr__ |
| 21:49.17 | Cide- | Cide-: <slot wrapper '__repr__' of 'exceptions.BaseException' objects> |
| 21:49.26 | Shirik|Ecole | can you hook functions in python? |
| 21:49.53 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlThePagan (n=karl@166.129.75.108) |
| 21:50.00 | End | technically, I don't generally see anything stopping you |
| 21:50.09 | Shirik|Ecole | .. |
| 21:50.10 | Cide- | yep, you could |
| 21:50.17 | Shirik|Ecole | how would I go about doing that? |
| 21:50.21 | End | it's not really something you normally do though |
| 21:50.25 | KarlKFI | same was as lua |
| 21:50.28 | Cide- | it's not very pythonic though |
| 21:50.30 | KarlKFI | way* |
| 21:50.33 | Cide- | and not something you would ever see |
| 21:50.36 | ScytheBlade1 | KarlKFI: evidently, several people in other guilds (Sing) were trying to get my cell # in order to tell me that my bank was being "stolen" |
| 21:50.37 | End | well, I guess you do with decorators |
| 21:50.39 | Shirik|Ecole | fn = code? |
| 21:50.43 | Cide- | yes |
| 21:50.48 | KarlKFI | heh sbo |
| 21:50.50 | Shirik|Ecole | like |
| 21:50.54 | Shirik|Ecole | fn = function() ? |
| 21:50.57 | Cide- | no |
| 21:51.02 | Shirik|Ecole | doesn't ther need to be something to start it? |
| 21:51.03 | End | either lambda |
| 21:51.06 | Cide- | def myFunc(args): code |
| 21:51.10 | Cide- | fn = myFunc |
| 21:51.11 | End | or define your function earlier |
| 21:51.13 | Shirik|Ecole | ah |
| 21:51.28 | Cide- | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:51.35 | KarlKFI | I don't feel like i lost anything. i got lots of enchants and gems, and contributed lots of food |
| 21:51.52 | End | Cide-: his had a newline |
| 21:51.53 | KarlKFI | prolly got more outa the bank than most peeps |
| 21:52.00 | End | oh nvm |
| 21:52.06 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> def fn(s):\n\treturn "Hiya!"\nrepr=fn\nprint("Test"); |
| 21:52.06 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: 'Test' |
| 21:52.09 | Cide- | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:52.09 | Cide- | Cide-: None |
| 21:52.14 | Shirik|Ecole | awe |
| 21:52.30 | Cide- | >>> class foo():\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:52.30 | Cide- | Cide-: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:52.36 | Cide- | >>> class foo(BaseException):\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nraise foo() |
| 21:52.36 | Cide- | Cide-: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:52.39 | Cide- | finally. |
| 21:52.47 | Cide- | I think it should be safe(r) now |
| 21:53.05 | Cide- | maybe not. |
| 21:53.16 | Cide- | >>> class foo(BaseException):\n\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\0PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world!"""\nprint foo() |
| 21:53.16 | Cide- | Cide-: None |
| 21:53.23 | Cide- | ah, yes. |
| 21:53.27 | Cide- | print wrapper saves me |
| 21:54.33 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> class foo():\tdef __repr__(s):\n\t\treturn """\nPRIVMSG #wowuidev :Did it work?"""\nprint(foo()) |
| 21:54.33 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:54.38 | Shirik|Ecole | impressive |
| 21:54.59 | Shirik|Ecole | for now |
| 21:55.47 | Cide- | you should stop trying to exploit and start trying to love its bignum |
| 21:56.07 | Cide- | >>> int("".join(range(1, 1000)))**99 |
| 21:56.07 | Cide- | Cide-: StupidException('Nu-uh',) |
| 21:56.09 | Cide- | oh |
| 21:56.13 | Cide- | it's being overly stupid |
| 21:56.24 | Shirik|Ecole | I love bignum |
| 21:56.26 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 21:56.29 | Shirik|Ecole | how useful that was |
| 21:56.42 | Cide- | >>> int("".join(range(1, 1000)))**99 |
| 21:56.42 | Cide- | Cide-: TypeError('sequence item 0: expected string, int found',) |
| 21:57.05 | Cide- | >>> int("".join(map(str, range(1, 1000))))**99 |
| 21:57.08 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> return 1 |
| 21:57.13 | Shirik|Ecole | >>> print(1) |
| 21:57.15 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 21:57.48 | Cide- | Cide-: 1148108084222353296187214639514548537508663672267722470752194328465485287046563440413699031142311162409009815594559104100863626854838299602741955184025171146670569087257952815164747826459871192... Message too long |
| 21:57.48 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: SyntaxError("'return' outside function", ('<string>', 1, None, None)) |
| 21:57.48 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: '1' |
| 21:57.51 | Cide- | haha |
| 21:57.58 | Cide- | that took some time |
| 21:58.16 | Cide- | >>> len("".join(map(str, range(1, 1000)))) |
| 21:58.16 | Cide- | Cide-: 2889 |
| 21:58.26 | Cide- | I guess that's to be expected when you take a 2889 digit number and raise it to 99 |
| 21:58.33 | Shirik|Ecole | rofl Cide |
| 21:59.11 | Cide- | still only took like 30s? |
| 21:59.41 | Shirik|Ecole | too long |
| 21:59.47 | Cide- | you're too long |
| 21:59.53 | Cide- | >>> int("".join(map(str, range(1, 1000))))**3 |
| 21:59.53 | Cide- | Cide-: 1881676376412480405375011631214555046218997259459139269602258127791385318688917451838641052231792662104287386834940858513192842408204264957168087621755683840420485360643950625008638179339346762... Message too long |
| 21:59.58 | Cide- | is instant |
| 21:59.58 | Shirik|Ecole | you should read my paper on high-throughput math operations |
| 22:00.24 | Shirik|Ecole | Is python compiled to bytecode? |
| 22:00.26 | Cide- | yeah, I probably wouldn't use an irc-bot running python and win7 for that :/ |
| 22:00.35 | Cide- | I believe so |
| 22:00.53 | Cide- | not sure if exec() is |
| 22:00.53 | Shirik|Ecole | I wonder how python handles math |
| 22:01.01 | Shirik|Ecole | Bytecode is good for generic execution |
| 22:01.03 | Shirik|Ecole | but it sucks for math |
| 22:01.53 | Shirik|Ecole | most VMs don't have SIMD math operations |
| 22:02.07 | Shirik|Ecole | well not a VM |
| 22:02.13 | Shirik|Ecole | whatever you call the "instruction set" of python |
| 22:02.16 | Shirik|Ecole | or Lua for that matter |
| 22:02.33 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
| 22:02.45 | Thunder_Child | meh, come take this heat away |
| 22:02.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ~weather kdab |
| 22:02.51 | Thunder_Child | winter my ass |
| 22:02.56 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 22:02.59 | Shirik|Ecole | wtb 78.1 |
| 22:03.00 | Thunder_Child | see, thats a nice temp |
| 22:03.06 | Cide- | http://docs.python.org/library/dis.html |
| 22:03.06 | Shirik|Ecole | no |
| 22:03.08 | Thunder_Child | wtb 46.9 |
| 22:03.09 | Shirik|Ecole | that's freezing |
| 22:03.13 | Shirik|Ecole | too cold |
| 22:03.14 | Shirik|Ecole | cold cold |
| 22:03.27 | Lunessa | long meeting was long. |
| 22:03.31 | Thunder_Child | i'm used to sitting in 60 i can handle moving in 45 |
| 22:03.41 | foxlit | dis.disco() |
| 22:03.45 | foxlit | teehee! |
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| 22:07.01 | foxlit | How do people run around Thaddius nowadays? |
| 22:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Straight through |
| 22:07.47 | foxlit | (as in, how do you decide where/when to run?) |
| 22:07.55 | Shirik|Ecole | I go through him |
| 22:07.58 | Shirik|Ecole | and I look at debuffs? |
| 22:08.10 | Shirik|Ecole | positive right, negative left |
| 22:08.12 | ScytheBlade1 | We have positive on his right, negative left |
| 22:08.15 | Shadowed | theres no reason to run around Thaddius, unless you use some weird strategy |
| 22:08.19 | Shadowed | where you have more than 2 sides |
| 22:08.24 | ScytheBlade1 | When they switch, you run directly through him |
| 22:08.29 | Shirik|Ecole | how can you fit more than 2 sides... |
| 22:08.55 | Shadowed | There's some strat involing rotating him that was due to server lag or whatever back in classic |
| 22:08.58 | Shadowed | can't remember what it was thought |
| 22:09.44 | Cide- | ya |
| 22:09.46 | foxlit | Meh, too simple! |
| 22:09.48 | Cide- | negative go left, positive go right |
| 22:09.50 | Cide- | or so |
| 22:09.57 | Cide- | prevents gibbing to due disconnects |
| 22:10.06 | Shirik|Ecole | odd groups got left, even groups got right |
| 22:10.13 | foxlit | (back in 40, we did "run left if your polarity changed, right if it stayed the same") |
| 22:10.13 | Shirik|Ecole | that's 1,3,5,7 left, 2,4,6,8 right |
| 22:10.20 | Cide- | ya, that, foxlit |
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| 22:11.43 | Cide- | wow, I had no idea python had the syntax |
| 22:11.56 | Cide- | <value> if <statement> else <other value> |
| 22:12.01 | Cide- | >>> 1 if True else 2 |
| 22:12.02 | Cide- | Cide-: 1 |
| 22:12.06 | Cide- | >>> 1 if False else 2 |
| 22:12.06 | Cide- | Cide-: 2 |
| 22:12.23 | krka | that's neat |
| 22:12.35 | Shirik|Ecole | why the heck would you order it that way |
| 22:12.51 | krka | i suppose it's more readable than luas and/or version |
| 22:12.51 | Industrial | return 1 and true or false |
| 22:12.52 | Industrial | thats why |
| 22:13.06 | Industrial | or rather, 1 or 2 :p |
| 22:13.10 | Cide- | right |
| 22:13.16 | Shirik|Ecole | And what's wrong with the ?: operator? |
| 22:13.20 | Shirik|Ecole | It uses that order as well |
| 22:13.22 | Cide- | and it deals with false <other value>'s as well |
| 22:13.39 | Cide- | Shirik|Ecole: python generally prefers english words over non-sensical characters |
| 22:13.44 | Shirik|Ecole | that's not what I meant |
| 22:13.45 | Cide- | ?: is completely arbitrary |
| 22:13.45 | krka | >>> if True 1 else 2 |
| 22:13.46 | Cide- | krka: SyntaxError('invalid syntax', ('<string>', 1, 9, 'if True 1 else 2')) |
| 22:14.01 | Shirik|Ecole | I meant that order seems to make more sense to me |
| 22:14.07 | Shirik|Ecole | <condition> <value if true> <value if false> |
| 22:14.18 | krka | scheme uses (if cond value1 value2) |
| 22:14.18 | Cide- | maybe to not screw up the parsing |
| 22:14.28 | Cide- | make it less ambiguous |
| 22:14.33 | KarlKFI | ~google lua blog |
| 22:14.40 | KarlKFI | meh |
| 22:14.49 | Cide- | plus if you would say it in english I think you'd do it python's way |
| 22:15.00 | Cide- | do <this> if <that>, otherwise do <this> |
| 22:15.09 | KarlKFI | yes, I am too lazy to switch applications and type it in the browser search bar |
| 22:15.22 | Shirik|Ecole | If <this>, do <that>, otherwise do <something else> |
| 22:15.30 | Cide- | /shrug |
| 22:15.45 | Cide- | maybe to not be so similar to the general if statement |
| 22:15.59 | Cide- | if <this>: <that> else: <this> |
| 22:16.15 | ckknight | Cide-, it was done that way because Python's parser is defined as LL(1) |
| 22:16.24 | Cide- | there you go |
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| 22:23.31 | foxlit | Flight fatigue, qq |
| 22:24.49 | Shirik|Ecole | flight fatigue? |
| 22:24.49 | Shirik|Ecole | That's possible? |
| 22:25.06 | durcyn | if you fly over open water, yes |
| 22:25.16 | Shirik|Ecole | So is there like an end of the world? |
| 22:25.26 | foxlit | yes |
| 22:25.28 | Shirik|Ecole | There has to be an end |
| 22:25.37 | foxlit | But you probably die before you get there |
| 22:25.42 | Shirik|Ecole | but if you didn't |
| 22:25.54 | Shirik|Ecole | people tell me it's possible to live through fatigue at lv 1 |
| 22:25.58 | foxlit | walls, Shirik, walls |
| 22:26.05 | Shirik|Ecole | invisible ones? |
| 22:26.11 | Tem | if delete [] is used on a struct that contains an array allocated with new[], is that array also deleted? |
| 22:26.17 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 22:26.22 | Tem | thanks |
| 22:26.23 | Shirik|Ecole | because it's just a contiguous block of memory |
| 22:26.33 | Shirik|Ecole | new[] will always put them right next to each other |
| 22:26.37 | foxlit | Hm, no, chocolate walls :) |
| 22:26.43 | Shirik|Ecole | (within architecture limits |
| 22:27.00 | foxlit | (you probably wouldn't want to let people escape from map coordinates, and the easiest way to do that is to simply clip them) |
| 22:27.11 | Tem | struct SomeStruct { SomeOtherStruct* blah }; |
| 22:27.29 | Tem | SomeStruct* whatever = new SomeStruct[dunno]; |
| 22:28.04 | Tem | for (int i=0;i<dunno;i++) whatever[i].blah = new SomeOtherStruct[dunno2]; |
| 22:28.08 | Tem | delete [] whatever |
| 22:28.09 | Tem | ; |
| 22:28.22 | Shirik|Ecole | that will leak memory |
| 22:28.32 | Shirik|Ecole | unless your SomeStruct destructor deallocates blah |
| 22:28.39 | Tem | that's what I was asking! |
| 22:29.09 | Shirik|Ecole | *blah is not within the memory of SomeStruct |
| 22:29.41 | Tem | ah |
| 22:29.45 | Tem | that makes sense |
| 22:29.56 | Shirik|Ecole | That being said |
| 22:30.06 | Shirik|Ecole | you are totally avoiding the paradigm of RTTI |
| 22:30.14 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 22:30.19 | Shirik|Ecole | not RTTI, lol |
| 22:30.28 | Shirik|Ecole | RAII |
| 22:31.57 | Cide- | read access internal insignifance? |
| 22:32.02 | Shirik|Ecole | ~wtf RAII |
| 22:32.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ~RAII |
| 22:32.07 | purl | i guess raii is "Resource Acquisition Is Initialization," a popular C++ design philosophy ensuring resource allocations are related to object creation, ensuring their deletion when destroyed. RAII is an important concept for writing exception-safe code. |
| 22:32.31 | Shirik|Ecole | "whatever" should be allocated in the constructor and deallocated in the destructor only |
| 22:32.59 | Cide- | in the constructor of what? |
| 22:33.04 | Shirik|Ecole | SomeStruct |
| 22:33.05 | Cide- | I'd assume you mean "blah" |
| 22:33.08 | Shirik|Ecole | yes |
| 22:33.14 | Cide- | ok, I'm following then |
| 22:33.16 | Shirik|Ecole | oh, sorry |
| 22:33.23 | Shirik|Ecole | yes, blah should be allocated in the constructor |
| 22:34.46 | Tem | Shirik, that makes sense |
| 22:35.00 | Tem | I didn't do it that way to keep the structs super simple |
| 22:35.12 | Shirik|Ecole | In C++, nothing is super simple |
| 22:35.19 | Tem | I should have done classes to begin with |
| 22:35.36 | Shirik|Ecole | There aren't many differences between structs and classes :) |
| 22:35.58 | Shirik|Ecole | The only big one is the default access specifier |
| 22:36.27 | Shirik|Ecole | struct is default public, class is default private |
| 22:38.24 | Kirov | http://i.gizmodo.com/5146564/bill-gates-just-unleashed-a-swarm-of-live-mosquitoes-on-a-room-full-of-geniuses |
| 22:38.43 | Shirik|Ecole | there has got to be a way to open links in irssi |
| 22:40.21 | Shirik|Ecole | you are very strange Kirov |
| 22:40.25 | Thunder_Child | Shirik|Ecole, C/P |
| 22:41.01 | Shirik|Ecole | how to C/P! |
| 22:41.17 | Kirov | Shirik ? |
| 22:41.28 | Shirik|Ecole | Kirov: Admit it, you wrote that article! |
| 22:41.36 | Thunder_Child | ...really? you dont know how to copy paste Shirik|Ecole? |
| 22:41.52 | Shirik|Ecole | not from a terminal :( |
| 22:42.18 | Kirov | Shirik - no, real article |
| 22:42.26 | Shirik|Ecole | seriously? |
| 22:42.29 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:42.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I expected it to be a joke article |
| 22:42.39 | Thunder_Child | he is trying to get maleria funding |
| 22:42.45 | Thunder_Child | malarea |
| 22:42.47 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 22:42.54 | Thunder_Child | malaria |
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| 22:45.15 | Kirov | GDI |
| 22:45.20 | Kirov | anyways |
| 22:45.37 | Kirov | He did a talk at TED today. Aparently talking about his work trying to rid the world of Malaria. |
| 22:46.23 | Kirov | As part of his talk he opened up a giant box of mosquitos on the crowd, aparently saying "Not only poor people should experience this." when he did so. |
| 22:46.47 | Thunder_Child | poor mosquitos |
| 22:50.18 | Kirov | So, aparently he didn't actually do it. He opened up a box and acted like there were mosquitos coming out to freak out the audience. |
| 22:51.02 | alestane | Ah, took the non-litigation method. |
| 22:51.34 | Shirik|Ecole | that sounds a lot more reasonable |
| 22:51.53 | Lunessa | Malaria is a nasty, nasty, nasty illness - but one that can be prevented by simple measures. Like not leaving standing, stagnant water around. |
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| 22:55.22 | Shirik|Ecole | ooh |
| 22:55.32 | Shirik|Ecole | Aladdin is on tonight! |
| 22:55.36 | Shirik|Ecole | I haven't seen that in a long time ^_^ |
| 22:57.53 | Kirov | If only I had a copy of a non-redubbed intro |
| 22:58.18 | Kirov | One of the worst things I've ever seen Disney do |
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| 22:59.32 | Shirik|Ecole | they redubbed it? |
| 23:00.00 | Kirov | The original lyrics for the intro song were changed. |
| 23:00.05 | Shirik|Ecole | :( |
| 23:00.10 | Shirik|Ecole | That was a great intro! |
| 23:00.22 | Kirov | Very minor change. |
| 23:00.32 | alestane | In the theatres, the into played with the line "where they cut off your ears if they don't like your face"; the video release changed this to "where it's black and immense and the heat is intense." |
| 23:00.35 | Kirov | I wouldn't mind it too much if they hadn't done such a bad job at it. |
| 23:00.51 | Shirik|Ecole | blah alestane :P |
| 23:00.54 | Shirik|Ecole | parents qq? |
| 23:00.56 | Kirov | alestane - the first couple of VHS releases had the original lyrics in |
| 23:01.03 | Shirik|Ecole | yes I remember that line too |
| 23:01.05 | Kirov | Shirik - middle easterns, actually |
| 23:01.59 | Lunessa | And, the original cover-art of "The Little Mermaid" had a tower that was really a penis. |
| 23:02.11 | Shirik|Ecole | that I've never been able to confirm |
| 23:02.19 | Kirov | Lunessa - I have that one |
| 23:02.41 | Lunessa | Well, I used to... but I think one of my exs has it now. |
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| 23:03.17 | Kirov | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEGlJP4X4vc - Notice how the voice changes drastically at the start. |
| 23:03.34 | Shirik|Ecole | that won't work too well |
| 23:03.42 | Kirov | bah |
| 23:03.44 | Shirik|Ecole | youtube doesn't work well with links |
| 23:04.40 | Kirov | just do a google search |
| 23:04.46 | Kirov | or what it tonight |
| 23:05.05 | Kirov | it's like the third line in the movie it actually sounds like someone else is singing. |
| 23:05.24 | Kirov | (probably still Robin Williams, just didn't quite do the voice the same) |
| 23:05.40 | ckknight | Kirov, I don't hear the change |
| 23:06.41 | Kirov | The voice goes deeper and more intense |
| 23:06.49 | Shirik|Ecole | woot |
| 23:06.54 | Shirik|Ecole | recompiling X fixed the problem |
| 23:06.55 | ckknight | Kirov, okay, I hear it |
| 23:06.58 | ckknight | that's totally different |
| 23:07.11 | Kirov | It's REALLY obvious with better audio quality |
| 23:08.13 | Kirov | It's a completely different vocal quality from the rest of the song. |
| 23:08.35 | haste | I hear it fine on that youtube clip :P |
| 23:09.13 | haste | firs time I hear the english intro however, so I would probably not notice it if you haven't said so :p |
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| 23:10.00 | Kirov | Ah, interesting. It (like most Disney musicals) isn't sung by Robin Wiliams. |
| 23:11.37 | Kirov | (most Disney animated movies in the last few decades has two actors, one for the speaking voice, one for the singing voice) |
| 23:11.51 | Kirov | The singer often doesn't get billing. |
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| 23:21.18 | Tekkub | Robin WIlliams can't sing? LIES |
| 23:22.37 | Syzgyn | I'm fairly confident that Robin Williams can sing, even if he doesnt for movies |
| 23:23.49 | Shirik|Ecole | XIO: Fatal Error 0 (Success) on X server ":0.0" |
| 23:23.51 | Shirik|Ecole | ^ wtf |
| 23:24.53 | haste | Success! Our error path works. |
| 23:25.10 | Thunder_Child | you successfult failed |
| 23:25.18 | Thunder_Child | like me a typing |
| 23:25.26 | alestane | >>> s = "731671765313306249192251196744"\nprint(reduce((lambda a, b: a if a > b else b), map(lambda l: reduce(lambda a, b: a * b, l), [s[i:i+5] for i in range(len(s) - 5)]))) |
| 23:25.32 | haste | that's what you get for having t next to y |
| 23:25.48 | alestane | Hrm, Cide appears to have gone. |
| 23:26.08 | haste | I bet you broke him |
| 23:26.22 | alestane | Anyone know why I get an invalid syntax error at the r in "in range(len(s) - 5)"? |
| 23:26.41 | mikma | Any addons that hide unitframes? |
| 23:26.52 | jnwhiteh | praid hides the party frame? |
| 23:26.52 | haste | all unit frame add-ons :D ? |
| 23:27.26 | mikma | well a guildie is asking an addon like that cause he uses a hud and doesn't need unitframes |
| 23:28.04 | jnwhiteh | you didn't say JUST hides unitframes :P |
| 23:28.14 | Kirov | goose? |
| 23:28.43 | mikma | true, i didn't. but i didn't think that i need to :D |
| 23:28.47 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 23:28.51 | jnwhiteh | U WERE WRONG |
| 23:29.05 | mikma | oh the pain, the suffering! |
| 23:29.29 | Thunder_Child | the fail |
| 23:29.34 | jnwhiteh | all because of your wrongness |
| 23:29.36 | jnwhiteh | good job |
| 23:30.07 | alestane | Ok, figures, the same construct works when I take it out and use it by itself. |
| 23:30.09 | mikma | now can i get a little "badboy spank" too? |
| 23:30.18 | mikma | don't kick me bro! |
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| 23:30.58 | WobWork | ... |
| 23:31.04 | WobWork | A 28-year-old from Houston has just broken the world record for the largest implants after her latest surgery brought her chest up to 38KKK. |
| 23:31.14 | WobWork | . o O ("KKKrazy...") |
| 23:31.24 | mikma | or the bad meaning of KKK |
| 23:31.30 | Kirov | ... |
| 23:31.31 | WobWork | yeah |
| 23:31.39 | WobWork | they weren't sure if she just really liked tits, or was racist |
| 23:32.11 | NeoTron | I don't get it |
| 23:32.24 | NeoTron | why would you want to do that? to get into a record book for the worlds biggest tits? |
| 23:32.40 | WobWork | Maybe she just really likes tits |
| 23:32.49 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* make a name for yourself? |
| 23:32.57 | WobWork | and having terrible terrible back pain |
| 23:33.04 | WobWork | (or having to use a trolley) |
| 23:33.12 | WobWork | (And a stable table each time you sat down) |
| 23:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | everythinghas its price :P |
| 23:33.53 | WobWork | I wonder if they flow to fit any available space |
| 23:34.05 | WobWork | She could lie down on a couple of empty boxes |
| 23:34.10 | WobWork | and make them into amusing shapes |
| 23:35.17 | mikma | wobwork: i find it funny that you had to join here to tell us about this amazing discovery |
| 23:35.22 | mikma | wobwork: good job! |
| 23:35.29 | WobWork | Of course! |
| 23:35.42 | Kirov | Men buy sports cars to make up for their ... dwindling assets, women get men to buy them big breasts. |
| 23:35.46 | WobWork | I couldn't leace you all in the dark about such a discovery! |
| 23:36.01 | WobWork | Your lives would be so much duller without news like this! |
| 23:36.14 | haste | yse. |
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| 23:42.34 | cog|work | .info adoption seems to have picked up in the last year |
| 23:42.46 | cog|work | at least outside the porn/pirate/malware world |
| 23:42.47 | mikma | wobwork: OMFG! Corpse Explosion! best 1 talentpoint spent, EVER! |
| 23:43.18 | mikma | i mean, nothings more satisfying than binding CE in clique (shift+leftbutton) and just exploding failers in bossfights |
| 23:43.36 | mikma | mouseover unitframe -> click -> BOOM, bunch of bones / meat |
| 23:43.41 | NeoTron | lol |
| 23:43.47 | NeoTron | never thought of THAT usecase |
| 23:44.11 | NightHawkTheSane | "Well, at least NOW you're useful for something!" |
| 23:44.34 | mikma | it's priceless i tell you |
| 23:44.44 | mikma | i've been exploding players over and over in bossfights :D |
| 23:45.11 | mikma | of course, i won't be exploding my friend / my wife, rather raise them as ghoul :) |
| 23:53.22 | Thunder_Child | ok wandering quest givers are fail |
| 23:56.53 | cog|work | ... ? Last week a family member forwarded me a scare-mail about the mercury-HFCS connection. Luckily she comes to me for my skeptical take rather than trying to convince me of the hype, so I took the time to prepare the following response: |
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| 23:56.59 | cog|work | http://blog.cogwheel.info/2009/01/sour-sweets.html |
| 23:57.01 | cog|work | It was really exciting to hear you guys reiterate all my points on your 1/31 show. I hadn't even heard of the skeptic community until late last year, but I dove in head first. This was my first bash at skeptical analysis of something that hadn't already been beaten to death. I've had plenty of discussions about autism/mmr, acupuncture, and various other aspects of hippie woo, but this experience was so-far unique. |
| 23:57.08 | cog|work | sry |
| 23:57.10 | cog|work | err... |
| 23:57.23 | cog|work | meant: ...? http://www.computertan.com/ |
