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| 00:07.33 | cog|work | how to sharpen a knife: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM2tiu8zS0E |
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| 00:12.26 | Kirov | That seems efficient |
| 00:13.53 | Amarande | nice. the robe I always wanted back at 60 dropped, AND the flask of supreme power recipe |
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| 00:32.09 | Wobin | well! |
| 00:32.21 | Wobin | The next time I need to sharpen a coke can, I know what to do =P |
| 00:37.04 | Amarande | Wobin: run scholomance? |
| 00:37.09 | Hirsute | Heh. http://failblog.org/2009/01/29/public-decency-fail/ |
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| 00:37.36 | WobWork | ....possibly |
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| 00:59.28 | WobWork | ahaha |
| 00:59.42 | WobWork | cafe |
| 01:01.06 | WobWork | I predict this will be hopeless |
| 01:01.15 | WobWork | as I don't intend to sttay here for 10 hours |
| 01:06.46 | NeoTron | WobWork: I always game from a cage |
| 01:06.53 | NeoTron | I like the shiny metal bars |
| 01:07.07 | WobWork | hardcore cage gaming |
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| 01:14.15 | Pytlask | Anyone have any addons they think are just about needed for Naxx? (e.g. a BossMods type thing) |
| 01:14.33 | NightHawkTheSane | http://theurbanpixel.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/lego-influenced-street-art-in-a-city-near-you/ |
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| 01:15.56 | Legorol | Pytlask: both DBM and BW are very popular, and most people I know use one or the other to raid with |
| 01:16.37 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.carnagecorp.com/pub/pictures/simpsonsmap.png |
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| 01:18.30 | smoke_ | can someone recommend me a lightweight chat addon? |
| 01:19.24 | WobWork | interesting |
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| 01:19.57 | Legorol | smoke_: what sort of thing do you want the addon to do? "chat addon" is too general |
| 01:20.23 | smoke_ | something like prat without all the unesesary options |
| 01:20.45 | smoke_ | i was using basicchatmods but it hasnt been updated and i see there are a ton of new chat addons |
| 01:21.19 | smoke_ | someone told me phanxchat but i dont think it has copy/paste |
| 01:21.26 | Funkeh` | What's broken in BCM that I need to update it? |
| 01:21.30 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf.. ? http://www.whipitoutcomedy.com/2009/01/puppy-panties.html |
| 01:21.54 | smoke_ | Funkeh`, your chatmod the best still? |
| 01:22.04 | Funkeh` | I would never say that |
| 01:22.06 | smoke_ | i just havent updated any of my addons for like 4 months |
| 01:22.15 | smoke_ | i liked it the best out of all the addons i've seen |
| 01:22.38 | Funkeh` | It's a simple chat addon, I don't really have anything to "do" to it |
| 01:23.01 | smoke_ | k ill stick with ur addon lol |
| 01:23.51 | Funkeh` | I'm not saying stick with it, use anything you want lol, I'm just saying it doesn't really need updated, I don't think most chat addons do? |
| 01:24.12 | smoke_ | na your right, i just wasnt thinking |
| 01:24.49 | smoke_ | im reoding my ui, and looking for new addons and i didnt see yours on the list in chat section on wowinterface.com i thought maybe all these new chat mods were all the "new cool" stuff haha |
| 01:24.56 | NeoTron | I use Chatter |
| 01:25.17 | NeoTron | whether it's "best" or not I won't say but it's reasonbly lightweight and modular |
| 01:25.58 | Legorol | can someone explain to me what a "chat addon" does? :) |
| 01:26.06 | Legorol | it seems like an awfully vague term |
| 01:26.17 | Tekkub | anything that involves the ChatFrames |
| 01:26.19 | NightHawkTheSane | usually visual modifications to the chat frame. |
| 01:27.30 | NeoTron | things like chat history, formatting, clickable link parsing, customized coloring, customizable timestamps etc |
| 01:31.29 | Hirsute | Legorol: I have a chat addon that filters against a user-customizeable blacklist., in addition to the things NeoTron mentioned |
| 01:31.45 | Hirsute | (mine doesn't do the things he mentioned, it just does something that wasn't on the list) |
| 01:31.57 | Hirsute | So, basically, anything having to do with the ChatFrame |
| 01:32.09 | Hirsute | As Tekkub mentioned (had I read back in the buffer) |
| 01:35.03 | Funkeh` | Well, it was only 2 lines above your first statement :p |
| 01:38.19 | Hirsute | I should have said, "Had I read back the buffer carefully" |
| 01:38.26 | Hirsute | I just kind of skimmed it. |
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| 02:08.11 | mikma | rofl |
| 02:08.13 | mikma | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info12383-ExtendedShutdownWarning.html |
| 02:08.31 | mikma | i wonder where have i seen something like that before! |
| 02:10.19 | mikma | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw22849.jpg |
| 02:10.22 | mikma | =D |
| 02:14.59 | Shirik | mikma: What is that from? |
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| 02:16.03 | mikma | shirik: wha? |
| 02:16.19 | Shirik | wtf is with your away message |
| 02:16.40 | Shirik | (21:15:53) - mikma is away (Go away. I am not interested to talk with strangers! I'm also NOT AVAIILABLE!) |
| 02:16.54 | Shirik | AVAIILABLE! |
| 02:18.31 | mikma | hah |
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| 02:28.57 | mikma | hoho, i see finnish pizza-ads in frontpage of wowi |
| 02:30.36 | mikma | what the hell? |
| 02:30.37 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9341-Chamois.html#comments |
| 02:30.57 | mikma | that function returns something else in german version? |
| 02:31.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:31.55 | Arrowmaster | those returns from GetItemInfo() are localized |
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| 02:32.13 | mikma | hmmrrpf |
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| 02:32.32 | Arrowmaster | they return exactly whats shown in the auction ui |
| 02:35.12 | mikma | i hate germans |
| 02:35.33 | mikma | really, fuck them and their language. the biggest whiners of wow |
| 02:36.02 | mikma | their reports are like that too |
| 02:36.10 | mikma | "hai can has locals plx" |
| 02:36.34 | mikma | ok, sure. shall i just translate this with google then |
| 02:37.03 | Zyndrome | http://reve-guild.org/sylv/ , looks like the soundboard of my GM is filling up |
| 02:40.41 | mikma | Wenn Sie etwas übersetzt, gib mir die Übersetzung oder dass ich mit Google Translate |
| 02:40.52 | mikma | hahaha i'm gonna go with that |
| 02:41.50 | mikma | oh this is even better: Wenn Sie etwas übersetzt, gib mir die Übersetzung oder beenden. |
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| 02:43.59 | sacarasc | Hmmm, we should fire our other dps... I just got only 500 dps less than them on Loatheb when one of them got 3 spores and I got none |
| 02:44.22 | sacarasc | Also, Dave2 stalks me |
| 02:44.56 | mikma | this is the winner: Ich spreche kein Deutsch. Ich brauche die Übersetzung zu. Idioten. |
| 02:45.05 | mikma | telling them they are idiots = win |
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| 02:45.54 | sacarasc | Maybe you should just learn German, mikma |
| 02:47.21 | mikma | apparently |
| 02:48.28 | sacarasc | Doing the locales using google translate does seem like a good idea, though |
| 02:49.24 | mikma | like in this case, i need to know what that function returns in german |
| 02:49.42 | Dave2 | sacarasc, pft |
| 02:49.44 | mikma | or i need a new way of knowing is offhand slot equipped a weapon |
| 02:50.27 | sacarasc | Dave2: I got 5 channels with spam in from your quits and joins! :o |
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| 02:50.38 | Dave2 | :( |
| 02:51.07 | sacarasc | Don't do it! |
| 02:51.11 | sacarasc | He's radioactive! |
| 02:51.17 | sacarasc | I have faked proof |
| 02:51.19 | Dave2 | yay, huggles! |
| 02:51.30 | Cairenn | you stop picking on my Freenode staffer, sacarasc! |
| 02:51.47 | sacarasc | I've known him since before he was, I'm allowed to pick on him |
| 02:52.09 | Cairenn | nope, he's mine now, I stoleded him, so I protects him! |
| 02:52.24 | sacarasc | He's in my secret channel, though ;p |
| 02:53.48 | Arrowmaster | sacarasc stalked me all the way to a different network |
| 02:53.55 | sacarasc | :D |
| 02:54.10 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 02:54.56 | Arrowmaster | hes been idle for 5.5 hours on rizon |
| 02:55.18 | sacarasc | Been signed on there for that long too |
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| 02:57.33 | Hirsute | Hrmm. Do the Field Repair Bots have hit points? |
| 02:57.44 | Arrowmaster | everything has hitpoints |
| 02:57.55 | Hirsute | Including vanity pets? |
| 02:57.59 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:58.01 | Hirsute | Huh. |
| 02:58.03 | Hirsute | Good to know. |
| 02:58.07 | Hirsute | I've never targetted one. |
| 02:58.11 | Arrowmaster | all the lvl1 vanity pets have 42hp |
| 02:58.36 | Hirsute | Thanks! |
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| 03:05.40 | MentalPower | its also possible to kill vanity pets (in very specific, and often buggy, circumstances) |
| 03:08.38 | Arrowmaster | it used to be but im perty sure its been fixed |
| 03:09.08 | Arrowmaster | we used to kill orphans on the domo fire pit |
| 03:12.34 | kd3 | yay domo's pit! |
| 03:17.07 | Torhal | Additional instances cannot be launched, please try again later. |
| 03:17.09 | Torhal | FFS. |
| 03:17.22 | Dewin | I wonder how well one of these would work with WoW: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826100006 |
| 03:24.30 | Lukian | Dewin, lol yeah that'd be interesting |
| 03:27.15 | Amarande | "Why won't WoW run on my XT?" |
| 03:29.09 | Lukian | Dewin, wonder if it has linux drivers yet :p |
| 03:29.22 | Arrowmaster | Dewin: not well ive heard |
| 03:29.26 | Arrowmaster | they dont do much |
| 03:30.04 | Lukian | you can pretty much play wow entirely with a mouse anyway |
| 03:31.01 | Arrowmaster | it only provides like 3 input values and only one is remotely reliable and it ends up being perty close to just scruncing your forehead to trigger that one input |
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| 03:57.51 | NightHawkTheSane | weee. another night of wiping to thaddius, because polarity is a little to complex for some people |
| 03:58.26 | Zyndrome | people are too stupid to tell the difference between left and right... |
| 03:59.00 | NightHawkTheSane | s/to tell the difference.*$// |
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| 04:06.44 | Amarande | how sensitive is thaddius to dps build/gear, assuming you have the polarity down right? |
| 04:06.52 | Amarande | (and I doubtless do, since I used to do H-Mech fairly often) |
| 04:09.41 | NightHawkTheSane | depends on how good you are. |
| 04:13.49 | NightHawkTheSane | *sigh* |
| 04:13.56 | NightHawkTheSane | its sad when your dps cant break 6k on thaddius |
| 04:14.27 | Tem | NHTS I can't break 6k dps on Thaddius |
| 04:14.41 | Tem | then again, I've only ever dpsed him on 10man |
| 04:14.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm talking 25 man |
| 04:14.50 | NightHawkTheSane | and you're tank specced, y es? |
| 04:14.57 | Tem | when I dps I'm not |
| 04:15.09 | Tem | but then I've only done that a few times |
| 04:35.15 | NightHawkTheSane | who only take 4/5 Blood of the north, wtf? |
| 04:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | and 4/5 anticipation.. |
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| 04:47.22 | Tem | NHTS, we call that a Dumb Knight |
| 04:47.38 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah >< |
| 04:47.42 | Tem | 4/5 BotN |
| 04:47.43 | Tem | wow |
| 04:47.56 | NightHawkTheSane | also, Veteran of the Third War over frozen tundra = fail |
| 04:48.05 | Tem | lua> .8*.2*2 |
| 04:48.06 | lua_bot | Tem: 0.32 |
| 04:48.14 | Tem | 32% chance of a fucked up rotation! |
| 04:48.18 | Tem | no |
| 04:48.18 | Tem | more |
| 04:48.31 | Tem | lua> 1-.8*.8 |
| 04:48.32 | lua_bot | Tem: 0.36 |
| 04:48.39 | Tem | 36% chance of a fucked up rotation! |
| 04:49.51 | Tem | NHTS 3/3 VotTW vs 5/5 Frozen Tundra? |
| 04:50.41 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they'd obviously have to shift more points to pick up 5/5 FT, but even 3/5 is more worh it than 3/3 VotTW |
| 04:51.14 | Tem | maybe |
| 04:51.26 | Tem | 6% hp, 6expertise, and 6 str |
| 04:52.08 | Tem | 6% stam/str and 6 expertise |
| 04:52.16 | Tem | vs 5 expertise and 10% damage |
| 04:52.25 | Tem | or 3 expertise and 6% damage |
| 04:52.39 | Tem | so for a tank it might be a harder decision |
| 04:52.50 | Tem | (IFF they're MT for Sarth 3D) |
| 04:53.44 | NightHawkTheSane | there's far better tank specs than going 20+ points into blood and 40+ points into frost |
| 04:56.19 | Tem | for anything normal, I totally agree |
| 04:56.29 | Tem | for tanking Sarth 3D you have to do weird things |
| 04:56.44 | Tem | threat isn't an issue, so you spec for max HP and max survivability |
| 04:58.10 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but trust me, this guy's nowhere near doing sarth+3 :P |
| 04:59.29 | Tem | you go something like 25/11/x |
| 04:59.37 | Tem | it's a bizarre spec |
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| 05:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | http://failblog.org/2009/01/12/diva-gina-fail/ |
| 05:31.36 | Tem | FAIL |
| 05:31.37 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697593530&sid=1 |
| 05:37.01 | Tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697603687&sid=1 |
| 05:37.05 | Tem | check his post history |
| 05:37.20 | Tem | sigh it's borked to not show em |
| 05:37.48 | Tem | well, if you look a bit, you see several posts of his admitting to playing on a private server |
| 05:37.52 | Tem | it's pretty fail |
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| 05:41.25 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 05:44.44 | Shadowed | people seem to be playing on private servers more lately |
| 05:44.50 | Shadowed | gotten a few comments from people wanting 2.4 versions of mods |
| 05:45.19 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 05:45.36 | Arrowmaster | when i see those on irc or the wowace forums i tell them 'gtfo now before i get you baned' |
| 05:45.44 | Shadowed | I usually ignore them |
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| 05:45.55 | Shadowed | and laugh when they repeat asking for them, someone is nice usually and tells them its against the TOS |
| 05:47.09 | Corrodias | asking for a 2.4-compatible addon? not explicitly |
| 05:47.15 | Arrowmaster | the last one in wowace irc channel was funny, told him to get out and he went off on us for not helping him just because he doesnt have money to pay blizz |
| 05:47.56 | Shadowed | only person who would need a 2.4 mod is pretty much a curious programmer, or someone playing on a private server :p |
| 05:48.06 | Arrowmaster | that one wasnt asking for a 2.4 compatible addon, he was asking why omen3 didnt show any threat |
| 05:48.33 | Arrowmaster | so apparently the 3.0 private servers dont support the threat functions |
| 05:49.03 | Hirsute | Ah, yeah, that guy... |
| 05:49.20 | Tem | lol. |
| 05:49.22 | Arrowmaster | he was funny |
| 05:49.29 | Hirsute | "So I'm being discriminated against because I can't afford to play retail?" |
| 05:49.32 | Shadowed | I wonder how private servers do threat anyway |
| 05:49.42 | Hirsute | "GTFO" |
| 05:49.51 | Tem | no, you're being discriminated against because you're breaking the law |
| 05:49.58 | Tem | also, you suck and I hate you |
| 05:50.16 | Hirsute | Yeah, then he called the whole channel a bunch of douche bags. |
| 05:50.17 | Tem | if you can't afford 15 bones a month, you need to quit playing and get a job |
| 05:50.20 | Hirsute | He was silly. |
| 05:58.23 | Syzgyn | Hell, I know alot of people who cant really afford 15/month but play anyway :P |
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| 06:07.20 | Tem | how can you not afford 15/month? |
| 06:07.36 | Tekkub | when you're just bearly scraping by as is |
| 06:07.37 | Tem | if you have income, it's easy to eat $15 cheaper |
| 06:08.48 | Tem | well, I guess cutting your food budget isn't that easy for everyone |
| 06:08.55 | Tem | (fatty fatty want some cake?) |
| 06:09.10 | Tem | (oh god I'm going to hell for that) |
| 06:09.22 | Tekkub | I'm just saying, I've been there, we had to suspend wow for a month or two more than once |
| 06:09.26 | End | There's a point where you can't cut it $15 cheaper :P |
| 06:09.43 | Tem | yeah |
| 06:09.50 | Tem | I'm lucky to have never been there |
| 06:09.56 | Tem | and I tend to eat pretty expensively |
| 06:10.07 | Tem | so that would be the first place I'd cut from |
| 06:10.10 | Tekkub | that you are, it sucks picking which bill to pay |
| 06:10.18 | Tem | because I know I spend more than I need to on food |
| 06:10.31 | Tekkub | we spend an assload on food |
| 06:10.39 | Tem | which company are you least afraid of? |
| 06:10.48 | Tekkub | exactly |
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| 06:19.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: it sucks more to figure out how little food you actually need >< |
| 06:19.52 | Tem | oh god damnit |
| 06:20.01 | Tem | I just got Baron Rivendare's Runeblade |
| 06:20.06 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 06:20.14 | Tem | I DO NOT WANT THIS SWORD |
| 06:20.19 | Tem | GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING HORSE |
| 06:21.43 | NightHawkTheSane | but dude, its the runeblade! |
| 06:21.51 | Tem | but dude, I'm level 80 |
| 06:22.00 | Tem | the runeblade was an okay at best level 60 epic |
| 06:22.05 | NightHawkTheSane | but its the RUNEBLADE (ignoring that it wasn't terribly impressive at 60..) |
| 06:22.24 | Tem | yeah one of the rarest drops in the game |
| 06:23.20 | Kaso | lvl 60 instance epics are the best |
| 06:32.15 | Kaso | i want an ironfoe for my priest |
| 06:38.09 | Tem | sigh |
| 06:38.12 | Tem | it's a 1/500 drop |
| 06:38.23 | Tem | actually |
| 06:38.30 | Tem | according to wowhead, it's more rare than that |
| 06:38.47 | Tem | lua> 43/26663 |
| 06:38.48 | lua_bot | Tem: 0.0016127217492405 |
| 06:38.55 | Tem | lua> 100/43/26663 |
| 06:38.55 | lua_bot | Tem: 8.7221295253679e-05 |
| 06:39.17 | Tem | wha? |
| 06:39.39 | Tem | lua> 100/(43/26663) |
| 06:39.39 | lua_bot | Tem: 62006.976744186 |
| 06:40.08 | Tem | that's not right |
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| 06:46.41 | Tem | Runeblade should be a FoS imo |
| 06:47.00 | Pytlask | Oh man |
| 06:47.07 | Pytlask | Horde just won WG with literally 1 sec left |
| 06:57.12 | Tem | how do you actually win WG? |
| 06:57.18 | Tem | do you have to destroy the orb? |
| 06:57.27 | Tem | or have more people near it? |
| 07:05.01 | Arrowmaster | just have to click it |
| 07:07.43 | Tem | oh like an AB flag? |
| 07:07.54 | Tem | I've never been there when we were attacking WG |
| 07:08.33 | Fisker- | you just click it |
| 07:08.52 | Fisker- | It's instantly tagged |
| 07:09.09 | Tem | hmmmm |
| 07:09.23 | Tem | I've seen horde fail to win WG with them swarming the orb |
| 07:09.32 | Tem | shitfuck |
| 07:09.36 | Tem | I hit the instance limit |
| 07:09.37 | Fisker- | it wasn't until 3.0.8 it was instant |
| 07:09.52 | Tem | ah |
| 07:10.01 | Tem | I haven't been out that way since patch |
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| 07:21.45 | Tem | damn instance limit |
| 07:22.08 | Tem | if I can do more than 5 baron runs in under an hour, I should be rewarded, not ported back to dalaran! |
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| 07:28.43 | Fisker- | stop being so chinese goldfarmer Tem |
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| 07:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Grosse Pointe Blank is such an amusing movie |
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| 07:43.06 | Shirik | they need backlights on the authenticators |
| 07:43.38 | Fisker- | you need to turn on the lights |
| 07:43.43 | Shirik | that's boring |
| 07:43.49 | Shirik | lights out = hawt |
| 07:44.52 | Fisker- | i need a giant sewer rat Shirik |
| 07:45.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i bet shirik -is- hotter in the dark |
| 07:46.01 | Fisker- | good point |
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| 07:48.28 | Syzgyn | whats next, sporking? |
| 07:49.06 | Fisker- | perhaps |
| 07:51.11 | Syzgyn | Oh man, 8-bit theater continues to be awesome. |
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| 08:26.38 | Tekkub | nice typo in the flight map |
| 08:26.44 | Tekkub | Den Nifflelem |
| 08:26.48 | Tekkub | *Dun |
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| 10:00.14 | |pez| | If one tries Sarth with one dragon up, which dragon should that be? :P |
| 10:00.20 | |pez| | Or are they all equally hard? |
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| 10:00.35 | zenzelezz | it's not particularly difficult with one up |
| 10:00.54 | zenzelezz | two of them increase damage (shadow, fire); the third one reduces everyone's health by 25% |
| 10:01.24 | |pez| | We failed hard. XD |
| 10:01.34 | zenzelezz | I'm not certain, but I think most people go with Vesperon (the one on the left as you enter) up for their first +1 |
| 10:01.34 | |pez| | with one dragon, last week. |
| 10:01.49 | Fisker- | tenebron is easiest |
| 10:02.05 | |pez| | We tried with the one on the left alive. |
| 10:02.55 | zenzelezz | Fisker-: yeah, possibly. I assume you'd still only let his eggs hatch and tank+kill the whelps when they emerge? |
| 10:04.39 | |pez| | I probably need some better gear, and a better spec before I'm gonna be of good use in a Sarth +1 / 2 / 3. |
| 10:05.53 | zenzelezz | well, +1 is easy when everyone knows what to do and have decent gear. +2 is harder, but still not too bad |
| 10:06.14 | |pez| | I don't have decent gear |
| 10:06.14 | zenzelezz | it's +3 that's a real challenge; and you don't gain much over +2 except one mount and a title |
| 10:06.23 | |pez| | and I actually realized I had a leather item |
| 10:06.30 | |pez| | I must have not seen that |
| 10:06.40 | |pez| | and replaced it because it had better stats than my mail item |
| 10:07.50 | |pez| | My trinkets could probably also do with a replacement. |
| 10:08.18 | |pez| | Both of them are questrewards frmo like Scholazar or Zul'Drak or something |
| 10:12.39 | zenzelezz | I still had my Styleen's from BWL until I got a trinket from Naxx25 |
| 10:13.35 | |pez| | :D |
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| 11:26.31 | zenzelezz | so the server that the company I work for use to host customers' sites and our own services was suddenly having real issues downloading stuff; even files as small as 145kb |
| 11:27.04 | zenzelezz | communicating a bit with the server host's tech guy it turned out that after installing a traffic monitor on the server, they'd left one of the interfaces on half duplex x.x |
| 11:27.42 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:31.44 | smoke_ | anyone know if there is another addon similar to timetodie? |
| 11:32.43 | zenzelezz | what does timetodie do? |
| 11:34.16 | smoke_ | estimates when a mob is going to die |
| 11:38.51 | Fogger | so take the elapsed time since mob hp dropped 1% & multiply by remaining %? |
| 11:40.22 | smoke_ | yeah |
| 11:40.46 | smoke_ | i dont know exactly how it calculates it |
| 11:40.58 | smoke_ | but seems like its the only addon ckknight has something called "brokers timetodie" |
| 11:41.03 | smoke_ | im trying it now, but i dont know if its the same thing |
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| 12:57.43 | mikma | mike-n-go: lol |
| 12:58.00 | mikma | mike-n-go: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info12383-ExtendedShutdownWarning.html#comments |
| 12:59.30 | selckin | ieuw party poker popups |
| 12:59.37 | selckin | -1 respect |
| 13:00.07 | mikma | ya |
| 13:00.21 | mikma | and they dont obey firefox "prevemt popups" |
| 13:02.44 | jnwhiteh | !addon doodle |
| 13:02.46 | lua_bot | Doodle (v. 78811) last updated Mon Aug 11 00:00 (http://is.gd/hU22) |
| 13:04.14 | mikma | doodle! sweet! doodle! |
| 13:09.52 | smoke_ | is there an addon that removes the zoning text? |
| 13:10.58 | mikma | no |
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| 13:28.47 | mikma | why do people always have to spoil everything? http://kuvaton.com/bshit/futurama.jpg |
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| 13:34.15 | krka | that's cool! |
| 13:35.34 | lyn | mikma, why? |
| 13:36.11 | mikma | futurama is holy. keep your dirty hands away from it! |
| 13:41.06 | lyn | hihi |
| 13:41.09 | lyn | mikma, I AM 80! |
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| 13:43.16 | Industrial | lyn: gz |
| 13:43.21 | Industrial | lyn: im rerolling hunter |
| 13:43.22 | Industrial | : |
| 13:43.23 | Industrial | p |
| 13:43.45 | Industrial | and giving away my raidspot |
| 13:43.58 | Kalroth | slacker |
| 13:45.15 | Industrial | I've already done everything .. I dont want to farm or gear up other people. we have two 25man raids doing all content anyway. |
| 13:45.39 | Kalroth | no, I mean rerolling a hunter |
| 13:45.45 | Industrial | if I reroll from enhancement shaman to hunter I'll automatically lose my raidspot, but I enjoy hunter a lot more then shaman. |
| 13:45.45 | Kalroth | only slackers does that! |
| 13:46.01 | Industrial | I can play any class with 1 button, doesn't matter :p |
| 13:46.05 | lyn | Industrial, owned XD |
| 13:48.36 | zenzelezz | hm, I think this death knight is trying to role-play... yelling "the end of the Scarlet Crusade ends here" |
| 13:48.57 | lyn | now that my shaman is 80 i dont have any intention to play with him anymore... so i lvl my warrior now |
| 13:49.02 | lyn | 73 lvl to go |
| 13:49.29 | Industrial | lyn: lool why level it in the first place then |
| 13:49.46 | Industrial | lyn: I noticed you are elemental, elemental kicks ass atm |
| 13:50.12 | lyn | i know |
| 13:50.20 | lyn | i wanted to raid 10 man with him but |
| 13:50.27 | lyn | they raid on same days i raid with dk |
| 13:50.30 | lyn | so no raid with shaman |
| 13:50.46 | lyn | now i lvl my warrior... sweet fury stuff |
| 13:50.56 | lyn | but first i go eat something |
| 13:51.04 | Industrial | I raid mon-thurs and do 10mans whenever I feel like it on other days .. we clear all the 25man in 1/2 days usually tho |
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| 14:37.17 | zenzelezz | so... when you're sent as a death knight to your faction's capital, is that the end of the starting DK quests? |
| 14:39.01 | nevcairiel | you're not sent to your faction |
| 14:39.07 | nevcairiel | alliance always goes to stormwind |
| 14:39.42 | nevcairiel | but yes, thats the end |
| 14:39.47 | zenzelezz | by faction I meant horde/alliance |
| 14:40.05 | nevcairiel | who says stormwind is the alliance capital? |
| 14:40.07 | nevcairiel | stupid humans |
| 14:41.01 | zenzelezz | somehow I didn't find the DK startup as epic as people kept telling me. Certainly good, but not that great |
| 14:41.53 | jnwhiteh | better than anything else in the game, really |
| 14:41.55 | jnwhiteh | that's the point =) |
| 14:42.18 | zenzelezz | "anything else" as in what; starter quests or questlines at all? |
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| 14:54.57 | Wobin | It's the first easy example of phasing tech in the game, levelwise |
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| 14:58.25 | Fisker- | get him! |
| 14:58.41 | mikma | ouch, teh troat |
| 14:58.48 | mikma | trout* .. |
| 15:01.40 | smoke_ | how do i truncate with libdogtag3? |
| 15:01.49 | smoke_ | im trying :Trunc(10) and its not working ... |
| 15:02.09 | Tifi | wth why would google say "This site may harm your computer" for www.wowhead.com? |
| 15:02.53 | mikma | because wowi is the site of all evil |
| 15:03.08 | Fisker- | because of malware? |
| 15:03.37 | Thrae | Tifi: Probably one of the advertising sites Wowhead is currently using has been reported. |
| 15:03.38 | Tifi | oh it actually says that for every page |
| 15:03.47 | selckin | its a problem with google |
| 15:03.52 | selckin | they got hacked or something |
| 15:04.21 | mikma | hacked... |
| 15:04.34 | Thrae | Ah, selckin is right |
| 15:04.49 | mikma | oh i love how wow community has given a new meaning for the word |
| 15:05.29 | Thrae | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=toast&btnG=Search <-- every single hit is giving me "This site may harm your computer." I don't think Google is hacked, just coded wrong. |
| 15:05.58 | mikma | "omg i got hacked" -> " i installed something unsafe and got a trojan that sent my login information to xx" |
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| 15:08.24 | malikeye | anybody got any idea why "enable floating waypoing arrow" shows up even though it's disabled in TomTom ? |
| 15:09.43 | mikma | yes, you use cartographer |
| 15:09.53 | malikeye | indeed |
| 15:10.00 | malikeye | it just started happening though, which is weird |
| 15:10.20 | malikeye | oh gotcha... user error :D |
| 15:10.53 | malikeye | wow, what a noob |
| 15:11.01 | malikeye | thanks mikma |
| 15:11.19 | smoke_ | will having long dogtag parses have a great impact in addon memory usage? |
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| 15:12.53 | Silversage | Gluten Morgen. |
| 15:14.04 | Cairenn|afk | morning pretty mountain flower formerly known as the mod author qzot |
| 15:25.28 | jnwhiteh | malikeye: Huh? I don't understand what you mean |
| 15:25.34 | jnwhiteh | if you disable the waypoint arrow, it shouldn't appear.. period |
| 15:25.42 | jnwhiteh | are you sure you're not using Cartographer_Waypoints or something else? |
| 15:26.28 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 15:26.30 | jnwhiteh | thanks mikma |
| 15:26.32 | jnwhiteh | i'm leaving again |
| 15:26.37 | jnwhiteh | bai |
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| 15:55.08 | Lothaer | morning guys |
| 15:57.40 | Industrial | morning |
| 15:58.27 | Lothaer | whats the latest? |
| 15:58.55 | Industrial | google fucked up for a while today; all pages were suspicios |
| 15:59.05 | Industrial | suspicious* |
| 16:00.23 | Lothaer | yeah i noticed |
| 16:00.34 | Lothaer | i cleared my cookies and everything and it worked |
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| 16:12.32 | |Jelly| | How can this guy (http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9108-nUI.html) state "No third party add-ons" "100% Original stand-alone code" when you can clearly see Omen in the screenshots? |
| 16:14.47 | Lothaer | its integrated support |
| 16:15.03 | Lothaer | dosnt come with it but if you use Omen it will automatically hook it |
| 16:16.01 | |Jelly| | ahh |
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| 16:27.55 | Xinhuan | that nUI looks like information overload |
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| 16:32.31 | Fisker- | yeah Xinhuan |
| 16:32.34 | Fisker- | i barfed irl |
| 16:32.42 | Fisker- | also lol sploitzs on malcheesear |
| 16:33.26 | Xinhuan | "How you can help support nUI's continued development: I am currently trying to recover from 14 months of unemployment and with over $20,000 in debt (unpaid mortgage payments, loans, etc.), every penny makes a serious difference." |
| 16:33.28 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 16:35.04 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 16:36.06 | Lothaer | in other words stop playing wow and get a job |
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| 16:38.57 | Lothaer | if you could get paid a decent wage to play wow would you? |
| 16:39.49 | Lothaer | and if you could i wonder if you could right off game cards as a tax deduction? |
| 16:44.09 | Xinhuan | i would |
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| 16:55.46 | Ithato | hello, is anyone familiar with EavesDrop and/or MikScrollingBattleText able to tell me if there was a Blizz setting that would make both of these addons no longer show any events whatsoever? My combat log is also empty |
| 16:56.13 | nevcairiel | restart wow |
| 16:56.18 | nevcairiel | happens occasionally |
| 16:56.59 | Ithato | there's no other way to fix that? |
| 16:58.46 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:59.46 | [dRaCo] | Ithato: those addons don't anything because your combatlot doesnt show anything anymore, not the other way round, btw. |
| 17:00.53 | zenzelezz | heh, comment in Slashdot's Google-"bad site" post... "So I heard Google was having some layoffs recently..." |
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| 17:05.16 | smoke_ | im having trouble with this dogtag, im trying to do [(if Range > 36 then Range:Color("ff0000") else Range:Color("00ff00") end)], it works fine but when im in range 5-7 it shows up as red anyone know why this is happening? |
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| 17:14.40 | Tem | piccolo of the flaming fire is pissing me off |
| 17:14.52 | Tem | in my Baron Runs, I've been killing Hearthsinger nearly every run |
| 17:14.56 | Tem | I'm on my 76th baron run |
| 17:15.03 | Tem | and I haven't seen the piccolo yet |
| 17:15.13 | Tem | wowhead claims it has a 20% droprate |
| 17:15.16 | Tem | 20% my ass |
| 17:15.24 | Tem | .8^76 |
| 17:15.30 | Tem | lua>.8^76 |
| 17:15.31 | lua_bot | Tem: 4.3135914667441e-08 |
| 17:15.36 | Tem | yeah, fuck you |
| 17:15.42 | Hirsute | Tem: That's the karma from all the people you're going to piss off once you get it slowing you down. |
| 17:15.59 | Tem | I don't really care that much about it |
| 17:16.08 | Tem | it's just my blinding bad luck that's bothering me |
| 17:16.21 | Tem | I know people who've gotten their mount in the first 15 runs |
| 17:16.26 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 17:16.29 | Tem | I'm nearly to 100 and I don't have mine yet |
| 17:16.48 | Tem | while I was here yesterday, some huntard walked in and got one on his first ever baron run |
| 17:16.49 | Hirsute | That freaking trinket is only slightly less irritating than the train set. |
| 17:17.06 | Hirsute | *twitch* That would irritate me, a lot. |
| 17:17.10 | Tem | (I know it was his first because I looked him up. I had ONE Baron kill and the mount) |
| 17:17.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Why do people consider either annoying? |
| 17:17.22 | Tem | s/I had/He had/ |
| 17:17.31 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, the trainset drives me BATSHIT |
| 17:17.36 | Hirsute | ScytheBlade1: The train, particularly, because you keep *hearing* the emote. |
| 17:17.37 | Tem | the piccolo doesn't bother me |
| 17:17.43 | Hirsute | "Chooo chooooooo" |
| 17:17.47 | Hirsute | ad infinitum |
| 17:17.52 | Tem | I can't stand the sound of that emote from most races |
| 17:18.08 | Hirsute | Piccolo irritates me because bursting into dance at random times just makes me twitch. |
| 17:18.08 | Tem | it's particulaly annoying from female draenei and all gnomes |
| 17:18.27 | Tem | I just hit CTRL+S when I see em |
| 17:18.44 | Hirsute | It's one of the few things that makes me wish I could frag members of my own faction. |
| 17:18.48 | Tem | but the fact that I have to turn off my sound because of some asshat really irritates me |
| 17:19.05 | Tem | I'm trying to do AH crap and BAM trainset |
| 17:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, but the gnome /train is AMAZING |
| 17:19.13 | Tem | sorry but no |
| 17:19.26 | Tem | it makes me foaming at the mouth insane |
| 17:20.01 | ScytheBlade1 | WHooooooOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo! Chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga WHOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 17:20.50 | Fisker- | Best. Item. Ever |
| 17:20.52 | Fisker- | . |
| 17:27.03 | Fisker- | everyone get in here! |
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| 17:35.48 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know where the inventory icons are in the mpq files? |
| 17:36.10 | Fisker- | locale files |
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| 17:36.57 | ZorbaTHut | aha! there they are, thanks :) |
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| 18:28.41 | lyn | mikma, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2SFBLOI2aQ :D |
| 18:32.42 | cog|away | http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/843163/#1751445 |
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| 18:58.02 | Lothaer | hey is it possible for a addon to detect a toons gender? |
| 18:58.22 | nevcairiel | UnitSex |
| 18:58.23 | nevcairiel | i believe |
| 18:58.25 | cogwheel | !api sex |
| 18:58.48 | Thunder_Child | net split |
| 18:59.09 | nevcairiel | must be a long split |
| 18:59.21 | nevcairiel | hm it started more then an hour ago |
| 19:02.37 | Thunder_Child | anyone remember a character builder site that also showed the dps of spells? |
| 19:03.45 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 19:03.47 | Thunder_Child | i found it |
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| 19:38.35 | Lothaer | can someone proof this for me plz |
| 19:38.36 | Lothaer | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107384 |
| 19:39.02 | nevcairiel | i dont read code with messed up indentation, sorry |
| 19:39.32 | Lothaer | thats the way it appears on the pastey |
| 19:39.40 | nevcairiel | everyone should code python, if you fail to indent, the compiler yells at you |
| 19:39.57 | nevcairiel | set the language to lua then |
| 19:40.44 | Lothaer | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/107385 |
| 19:40.50 | Pneumatus | isnt there an addon that does that already? |
| 19:41.00 | nevcairiel | the middle section has two times if ... = 2 |
| 19:41.02 | nevcairiel | not one 3 |
| 19:41.19 | Lothaer | i only want that to play if the toon is male |
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| 19:47.03 | Davnel | evening |
| 19:47.11 | Lothaer | sup |
| 19:47.24 | Davnel | not much atm |
| 19:47.37 | Davnel | worked out writing down an idea works better in the long run than trying to just do it |
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| 19:59.10 | Lothaer | its quiet... too quiet |
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| 20:01.06 | kd3 | whee. funny watching the server die as wintergrasp starts |
| 20:02.48 | Lothaer | that hurt Shirik |
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| 20:07.43 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. Did lua_bot die? |
| 20:08.34 | Hirsute | Also: Whose soul would I have to sell to whom to get the uIDs for auctions exposed to addons? |
| 20:09.59 | Hirsute | (not holding breath there, but boy would it be nice) |
| 20:11.07 | mikma | lua> print("if you are alive print this") |
| 20:11.22 | jnwhiteh | its not in the channel |
| 20:11.23 | jnwhiteh | nublets. |
| 20:11.39 | mikma | oh naws |
| 20:11.52 | jnwhiteh | and I'm not sure why |
| 20:13.15 | Hirsute | I can't message it at all, right now. |
| 20:14.06 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 20:14.08 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: its not in any channel it usually is in :( |
| 20:14.09 | jnwhiteh | ITS NOT ON THE SERVER |
| 20:14.13 | jnwhiteh | yes guys |
| 20:14.14 | jnwhiteh | i'm aware |
| 20:14.15 | jnwhiteh | jesus |
| 20:14.24 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 20:14.30 | jnwhiteh | its not in IRC right now |
| 20:14.31 | Tekkub | FIX IT |
| 20:14.35 | Davnel | don't think he can help us either |
| 20:14.37 | nevcairiel | then say that to begin with =P |
| 20:14.49 | jnwhiteh | I didn't know what was wrongt |
| 20:14.54 | Hirsute | So, since I can't message it to test this, I'll see if someone here can answer a question for me: If I have tablea = {"foo" = "one", "bar" = "two} and then do tableb = tablea, does it copy the contents of tablea to tableb, or create a reference in tableb to tablea? |
| 20:14.55 | jnwhiteh | but trying to address it when its not in the channel is full of fail |
| 20:15.04 | nevcairiel | well thats mikma |
| 20:15.04 | Fisker- | lua> print("where ya at?") |
| 20:15.10 | Tekkub | WE DON'T CARE JUST FIX IT |
| 20:15.11 | Davnel | tableb is a reference i belueve |
| 20:15.22 | jnwhiteh | its just a reference Hirsute |
| 20:15.25 | Hirsute | Okay, now, regarding the definition of reference... |
| 20:15.34 | Davnel | easy test is to do that then just edit tableb and see what tablea looks like |
| 20:15.45 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute: this is all covered in the first two chapters |
| 20:15.47 | Davnel | pointer to a location in memory that tablea is stored |
| 20:15.48 | jnwhiteh | there are values and variables |
| 20:15.56 | Hirsute | if I then change tablea[foo], will tableb[foo] also change? |
| 20:15.59 | jnwhiteh | values exist and variables are just bindings of a value to a name |
| 20:16.00 | Davnel | yup |
| 20:16.04 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 20:16.07 | Davnel | Hirsute its one table |
| 20:16.11 | Davnel | just two pointers |
| 20:16.37 | Hirsute | Okay, I *thought* that's what the case was. I was told something else recently, and was confused. |
| 20:16.52 | Hirsute | Thanks for the patients with my nublet questions. |
| 20:17.07 | Davnel | the only time I'm not sure about is if you point a saved variable to an existing table |
| 20:17.51 | Davnel | and i'm on about after you reload the ui |
| 20:18.05 | mikma | fail |
| 20:18.14 | mikma | i was just about to whine at him |
| 20:18.28 | Hirsute | Now, do I recode my addon for simplicity, or keep the extremely long table references in it because I'm lazy? *sigh* |
| 20:18.54 | Davnel | think I have about 400 line tables to copy around >.< |
| 20:19.02 | Hirsute | Heh |
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| 20:19.23 | Davnel | need to double check my max depth before I write the code to automate that one :S |
| 20:19.39 | mikma | jnwhiteh: no, not that client! zomg |
| 20:19.41 | Hirsute | Next question is.... if I do somevalue = tablea["foo"], is somevalue a reference to that table value, or is the value copied out into a new variable? |
| 20:20.01 | Davnel | thats different somevalue now equals tablea{"foo"] |
| 20:20.08 | Davnel | UNLESS that is another table |
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| 20:20.15 | Davnel | in which case reference |
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| 20:20.27 | mikma | lua> print("hai lol") |
| 20:20.28 | lua_bot | mikma: hai lol |
| 20:20.34 | Fisker- | lua> print("where ya at?") |
| 20:20.34 | lua_bot | Fisker-: where ya at? |
| 20:20.39 | Hirsute | Is there anyway to make somevalue be a reference to the scalar value? |
| 20:20.48 | Tekkub | tables are always references, that is all, it's really pretty damn simple |
| 20:20.59 | Davnel | hm don't think so Hirsute |
| 20:21.05 | Hirsute | Too bad. |
| 20:21.08 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute: variables are JUST bindings from a name to a value |
| 20:21.10 | jnwhiteh | they never "copy" anything |
| 20:21.32 | jnwhiteh | You should really read either Lua or WoWProgramming, it covers most of things in depth |
| 20:21.49 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: I may have used poor wording to ask my question. I've read through bits of PiL, though sometimes I get lost. |
| 20:22.07 | Hirsute | I am working my way through it, though. |
| 20:22.43 | Davnel | tends to be the same in any Object oriented language |
| 20:23.30 | Hirsute | Yeah, I'm coming into lua with the majority of my previous programming having been in perl. |
| 20:23.43 | jnwhiteh | well its really stupidly simple |
| 20:23.46 | Davnel | i've not used that before so no idea. |
| 20:23.48 | jnwhiteh | the only problem you can have is over thinking it |
| 20:24.03 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: Except the stupidly simple makes some things much harder than they need to be. |
| 20:24.11 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute: .. no it doesnlt? |
| 20:24.30 | Hirsute | for example: the fact that it doesn't appear I can have a variable that is a reference to a scalar value stored in a table. |
| 20:24.53 | krka | you can have references to a value |
| 20:24.56 | jnwhiteh | any why does that make things more difficult |
| 20:24.59 | jnwhiteh | I've never had the need for that in Wow |
| 20:25.03 | krka | you cant have references to a variable |
| 20:25.25 | krka | i've never had a need for c-style-references in either lua or java |
| 20:25.29 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 20:25.33 | Lothaer | sup guys |
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| 20:25.43 | krka | iddqd |
| 20:25.53 | krka | idspispopd |
| 20:25.57 | Davnel | true, good line I've read is programme into the langauge, not let the languages you know tell you how to programme |
| 20:26.43 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: Because it means that I have to us the whole table path if I want to make sure that if a value changes while my function is running I'm using the current value, rather than assigning a variable as a reference to that value at the beginning of the function and using just the reference name throughout the function. |
| 20:26.49 | Shirik | 100101010010 |
| 20:26.58 | krka | for the record, i think a language should have either multiple return values or variable-references |
| 20:27.00 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute: or just look it up when you need it |
| 20:27.02 | krka | java has neither :( |
| 20:27.03 | jnwhiteh | why is that a problem? |
| 20:27.19 | Davnel | never needed it in java |
| 20:27.22 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: With deeply nested tables, it makes for messy code |
| 20:27.31 | jnwhiteh | and therein lies your problem |
| 20:27.40 | jnwhiteh | having nothing to do with the language =) |
| 20:27.42 | krka | so make a reference to the deepest table |
| 20:27.48 | Davnel | my thoughts |
| 20:27.50 | krka | local t = some.long.table.chain |
| 20:28.02 | krka | inspect(t.myvalue) |
| 20:28.31 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: it has *everything* to do with the language. In another language I could set up a ref to just that value. |
| 20:28.40 | Hirsute | krka: That's actually a great recommendation. |
| 20:28.40 | Davnel | thats another language |
| 20:28.43 | Davnel | this is Lua |
| 20:28.43 | jnwhiteh | Yes, and in any language you could code better |
| 20:28.45 | jnwhiteh | that's the real problem |
| 20:28.53 | jnwhiteh | Or you can do what krka is saying |
| 20:28.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm not trying to be insulting |
| 20:29.03 | jnwhiteh | but expecting a language to work around your bad design is... bad |
| 20:29.11 | Davnel | hm good book for that type of thing is code complete 2 |
| 20:29.27 | krka | i for one hated the reference-operator in pascal |
| 20:29.29 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: Yes, because deeply nested tables must always be bad design. |
| 20:29.32 | krka | didn't see how it was useful |
| 20:29.38 | Davnel | i just hated pascal |
| 20:29.39 | krka | it's just a hack for bad design |
| 20:30.06 | nevcairiel | multiple return values? |
| 20:30.17 | Davnel | as in return 1, 2,3,4,... |
| 20:30.26 | nevcairiel | didnt pascal only allow simple return values? |
| 20:30.29 | nevcairiel | no objects? |
| 20:30.32 | Davnel | though in that case just return an array |
| 20:30.44 | Hirsute | I won't say that in this case it isn't, but I disagree that nesting tables == bad. |
| 20:30.49 | jnwhiteh | I didn't say that |
| 20:30.56 | Davnel | handy for storing data |
| 20:30.57 | jnwhiteh | I said what you are doing is clearly the problem here. |
| 20:31.02 | jnwhiteh | I didn't make any more general statements |
| 20:31.34 | Davnel | krka, multiple returns would imply your method is trying to do to much possibly |
| 20:31.44 | krka | nope |
| 20:31.48 | Hirsute | [13:28]<jnwhiteh>but expecting a language to work around your bad design is... bad |
| 20:31.54 | jnwhiteh | YOUR bad design |
| 20:32.03 | jnwhiteh | as in what you are doing now, which is causing the issue |
| 20:32.05 | Hirsute | You know nothing about my design except that it involves deeply nested tables. |
| 20:32.11 | Davnel | he was on abouy your desire to store local references to parts of teh table. Hirsute |
| 20:32.13 | krka | multiple return values allow me to refactor out common code to a method |
| 20:32.15 | jnwhiteh | I don't CARE about how deep they are |
| 20:32.22 | jnwhiteh | you are saying you cannot do osmehting without references |
| 20:32.27 | jnwhiteh | if that's the case, you have a design problem |
| 20:32.32 | jnwhiteh | I never said a word about nesting tables |
| 20:32.50 | krka | don't mention the nesting tables! i did it once, but i think i got away with it. |
| 20:33.02 | Davnel | sounds like recursion krka |
| 20:33.17 | krka | what do you mean? |
| 20:33.20 | Hirsute | thus, it read to me like you were saying deeply nested tables must be bad. Now that I realize you're talking about my desire to have references, I'm with you again. |
| 20:33.53 | krka | the only reference you need is the lua reference http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/ |
| 20:33.55 | Tekkub | nothing can top ace1's db design and learning : vs . ... and writing your entire addon opbject out to savedvar... with a reference to the savedvar in the object :P |
| 20:34.32 | Hirsute | And I *can* do it without references, it would just be *easier* with them |
| 20:34.43 | Davnel | refarctoring out common code, sounds like recursion, or possibly you could use another method to do the common work. |
| 20:34.58 | Davnel | is the return type of all the same type btw |
| 20:34.58 | krka | what does refactoring have to do with recursion? |
| 20:34.58 | Davnel | ? |
| 20:35.03 | krka | no |
| 20:35.15 | krka | well, might be same type, depends on context |
| 20:35.23 | krka | usually different meanings |
| 20:35.28 | Davnel | err not a lot actually i'm tired |
| 20:35.35 | Davnel | erm meaning only matters to the calling method |
| 20:36.50 | krka | lets say i have some code that takes a number and normalizes it to between 1 and 10, and returns the corresponding exponent |
| 20:37.07 | krka | i'd either have to return some sort of tuple object, 2 return values, or pass something by reference |
| 20:37.49 | krka | i can do the first one in java, but it feels wasteful to create temporary objects just for that |
| 20:37.56 | krka | especially in j2me |
| 20:39.49 | Davnel | temporary spike perhaps but once your down with it the garbage collector should handle them |
| 20:40.06 | Davnel | anyway no idea how the compiler will actually deal with it |
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| 20:43.02 | krka | garbage collection is _painful_ on most cell phones |
| 20:43.20 | krka | developers go to extreme lengths at the expense of code readability to avoid it :( |
| 20:43.45 | krka | the problem is both stuttering and fragmentation of the memory |
| 20:44.20 | Davnel | hm lets see, string is an option, then cut it up as needed |
| 20:46.06 | krka | strings are also garbage |
| 20:46.09 | Davnel | otherwise two methods doing the same thing but one returns the normalised number the other the exponent |
| 20:46.22 | Davnel | everythings garabage in the long run |
| 20:46.32 | Davnel | garbage* |
| 20:47.01 | krka | not primitives |
| 20:47.27 | krka | you mean having the code duplicated and running the algorithm twice? |
| 20:47.32 | krka | that's a crappy solution :( |
| 20:47.37 | Davnel | idd |
| 20:47.59 | Davnel | primative array? |
| 20:56.01 | Davnel | regret that move >.< |
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| 20:56.59 | Tekkub | radians >> all! |
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| 20:59.12 | Davnel | perhaps but I had to do maths!!! |
| 21:00.49 | Tekkub | the horror |
| 21:00.54 | Davnel | very much so |
| 21:05.28 | Davnel | no matter got it sorted (I guessed at numbers :P) |
| 21:05.40 | Davnel | just needed to set it up to demo ball collisions |
| 21:05.51 | Davnel | god to think I'd not write code that bad today |
| 21:07.55 | Tekkub | mmmmm... ball collisions... |
| 21:08.11 | Davnel | red ball vs blue ball |
| 21:18.13 | mikma | i would put my money on the black cock instead |
| 21:19.45 | mikma | black cocks and white chicks... mmmmm |
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| 21:22.07 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: question about your code on http://www.wowwiki.com/GetSellValue |
| 21:22.09 | Corrodias | i'd rather see white chicks and white chicks |
| 21:22.41 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: wouldnt it be better to pass the original input to the original function if GetItemInfo returns nil for link? |
| 21:22.50 | Arrowmaster | instead of nil |
| 21:24.16 | Arrowmaster | incase something emplimenting the function wants to be tricky and try to match item names it items on alts or something, or is that not supported |
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| 21:29.05 | Shirik | So I'm looking at my MSDN subscription |
| 21:29.10 | Shirik | and I open the "operating systems" folder |
| 21:29.18 | Shirik | in it is "Internet Explorer 8" |
| 21:29.28 | Shirik | Has IE become so bloated with features that they consider it an operating system now? |
| 21:29.51 | nevcairiel | Its an essential part of the OS |
| 21:29.52 | NightHawkTheSane | what, like emacs? |
| 21:29.57 | Hirsute | Shirik: I think their OS classification is not feature based, but bug based. |
| 21:30.09 | Hirsute | If it has a certain number of bugs, MS will call it an OS. |
| 21:30.18 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: Amusingly that's the discussion we were having locally here when we saw this |
| 21:30.40 | Hirsute | And, no, it isn't really an essential part of the OS, as it's been separated from the OS by law in parts of the world other than the US. |
| 21:30.58 | Shirik | yay for anti-trust laws |
| 21:31.05 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 21:31.34 | Hirsute | jnwhiteh: I apologize if I seemed combative at the end there, was actually just trying to explain what I'd misunderstood and how. Thanks for the help! |
| 21:31.41 | nevcairiel | There actually is a Vista 'N' version in the EU, which only strips out the media player |
| 21:31.43 | nevcairiel | not IE |
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| 21:31.50 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn|afk: poke |
| 21:31.53 | Shirik | yes I've seen that nevcairiel :P |
| 21:32.55 | nevcairiel | I don't see the beef with that anyway, its easy enough to install another browser |
| 21:33.20 | nevcairiel | and i don't think you can effectively "uninstall" IE |
| 21:33.47 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: Which is exactly the problem. |
| 21:34.00 | nevcairiel | its part of the OS, their OS, their decision |
| 21:34.02 | nevcairiel | shrug |
| 21:34.24 | Hirsute | Among the decisions that may be handed down to MS about doing business in the EU are: Remove IE from default installation, or install other browsers, too. |
| 21:34.50 | nevcairiel | thats silly |
| 21:35.02 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: It's only "part of the OS" so MS can try to leverage more market share on their browser. There's no reason it *needs* to be part of the OS. It can be uninstalled, it's just a royal pain in the butt. |
| 21:35.13 | Hirsute | *at least from XP |
| 21:35.19 | Hirsute | I haven't tried to remove it from Vista or 7 |
| 21:35.27 | nevcairiel | Hirsute: the point still is, its their OS, they decide wtf they ship with it |
| 21:35.41 | nevcairiel | they dont block other browsers |
| 21:35.58 | nevcairiel | You can install Firefox, and it'll never open IE again |
| 21:36.04 | Arrowmaster | except they actually did in the past |
| 21:36.09 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: The point really is: when they make a broswer that integral to the OS, they're stifling competition and running afoul of antitrust laws. |
| 21:36.16 | Arrowmaster | they prevented oems from installing netscape years ago |
| 21:36.30 | nevcairiel | that was even before the big EU beef |
| 21:36.42 | Arrowmaster | thats what caused all the antitrust stuff |
| 21:37.43 | Arrowmaster | i consider it a good thing though, if windows can not have IE then it means programs might stop using it for embedded browsers like steam |
| 21:37.55 | nevcairiel | Hirsute: what does "integral to the OS" have anythign to do with it, anyway? its not "better" just because it can use some low-level OS integration |
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| 21:38.40 | nevcairiel | When i offer a linux distribution, i decide on one browser that i ship with it |
| 21:38.51 | nevcairiel | if people want others, they install others |
| 21:38.59 | nevcairiel | but i don't ship 5 browsers |
| 21:39.08 | Arrowmaster | except that one browser can be uninstalled |
| 21:39.31 | nevcairiel | Whats the difference if IE is uninstalled or not? |
| 21:39.36 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: When you offer a linux distribution, you're not dominating the market, nor are you making it difficult for a user to remove the browser you ship. |
| 21:40.18 | Hirsute | If some linux distro *were* dominating the market, *and* shipping their own browser with their distro, *and* making it difficult to remove it, they'd be under the same scrutiny. |
| 21:41.56 | nevcairiel | I agree that the media player is somewhat harder to replace in windows |
| 21:42.08 | nevcairiel | but thats where the 'N' versions come in that ship without WMP |
| 21:42.25 | nevcairiel | however a browser, its easy to replace the default browser |
| 21:42.31 | nevcairiel | even if you cannot physically delete it |
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| 21:46.44 | Shirik | Someone please confirm my sanity. I'm reading this in documentation |
| 21:46.56 | Shirik | "The TOV2 bit is set (one) when an overflow occurs in Timer/Counter2. TOV2 is cleared by hardware when executing the corresponding interrupt handling vector. Alternatively, TOV2 is cleared by writing a logic one to the flag." |
| 21:47.08 | Shirik | Does that say it gets set to 1, then I have to write a 1 to clear it if I'm not using an interrupt? |
| 21:47.47 | Hirsute | It looks like that. |
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| 21:48.20 | Hirsute | Or, rather, a "true" |
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| 22:06.24 | Shirik | haha |
| 22:06.27 | Shirik | now there's a fun bug |
| 22:06.39 | Shirik | I finally found out why my interrupt isn't working; the processor I'm using is too fast |
| 22:06.44 | Hirsute | Nice |
| 22:07.24 | Adys | freeze it |
| 22:07.26 | Shirik | I finally did the math by hand and found I needed to delay like -3000 clock ticks |
| 22:07.29 | Adys | i hear it what cool kids do |
| 22:08.28 | Shirik | It's funny because I have a 16MHz clock tick here, and I already knew that was too fast, so I was like "I'll just pull it down to 2 MHz" ... no still too fast |
| 22:08.42 | Industrial | Line 87-90: http://pastey.net/107403 |
| 22:09.10 | mikma | what you coding at |
| 22:09.21 | Industrial | Only my playerframe shows, but I clearly set it to the unit and not just 'player'. theres a frame for player, pet, target and targettarget but when I target myself the target and targettarget unitframes do not show |
| 22:09.38 | Industrial | Any idea? :\ |
| 22:09.49 | Industrial | (Yes, this is incarnation 18 of idUnitframes) |
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| 22:13.21 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 22:13.51 | nevcairiel | You should get a working copy some day |
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| 22:14.47 | nevcairiel | I keep rewriting this CMS i have planned, first two version were in php, now i'm at python, wonder how far i'll get this time 0P |
| 22:15.32 | Industrial | nevcairiel: last one worked fine but the code got lost |
| 22:15.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:17.08 | Cairenn|afk | AbsolutRayne: ? |
| 22:19.38 | Industrial | if I remove the RegisterUnitWatch and leave the :Show() in plave in enable() they all show up fine |
| 22:19.41 | Industrial | :( |
| 22:19.58 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, why would you need a vendor value for an item you don't have cached though? |
| 22:20.29 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: i dont know, ignore me i did something else anyway to better suit what im doing |
| 22:21.18 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:21.40 | Tekkub | just saying, only use case I can think of is items you have and want to know the value at vendor |
| 22:21.45 | Tekkub | so they'd be cached |
| 22:22.34 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: I had my first overly cold Canadian night last night |
| 22:22.35 | AbsolutRayne | :/ |
| 22:22.42 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: oh? |
| 22:22.46 | AbsolutRayne | Winds were 60km/h and the power was out for 14 hours |
| 22:22.47 | AbsolutRayne | :| |
| 22:23.39 | Cairenn | wind speed doesn't necessarily mean anything :p |
| 22:24.02 | Cairenn | 14 hrs without power though, ugh |
| 22:24.04 | AbsolutRayne | It does when theres no heat >: |
| 22:24.11 | Iriel | Ding, second 80. |
| 22:24.14 | Cairenn | forgive, I don't recall where you are |
| 22:24.16 | Cairenn | Iriel: grats |
| 22:25.41 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: Alberta |
| 22:25.41 | AbsolutRayne | Leduc to be specific. Not even 30 mins outside Edmonton |
| 22:25.41 | Cairenn | AbsolutRayne: *nod* |
| 22:25.41 | Cairenn | yeah, that's cold then |
| 22:25.52 | AbsolutRayne | I do love it here, though |
| 22:26.01 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:26.06 | AbsolutRayne | Im about halfway done my Spousal Sponsorship |
| 22:26.13 | Cairenn | nice |
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| 22:26.51 | AbsolutRayne | So ive just been playing WoW to kill time :P |
| 22:27.02 | Cairenn | with no power? neat |
| 22:27.06 | Cairenn | :p |
| 22:27.29 | AbsolutRayne | Cairenn: >_> |
| 22:27.30 | Industrial | hehe |
| 22:27.38 | AbsolutRayne | Its powered by my MIND |
| 22:28.01 | Cairenn | oh, it is, is it? must get awfully boring, staring at a blank black screen |
| 22:28.22 | AbsolutRayne | No, usually its too cloudy to see anything. Dirty mind and all |
| 22:28.23 | AbsolutRayne | :< |
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| 22:29.18 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 22:29.38 | AbsolutRayne | =D |
| 22:31.09 | AbsolutRayne | Blah for working on a third 80 |
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| 22:58.33 | Shirik|AFK | So, I finally fixed my stupid bug where the processor was going too fast. It's not like I wanted something slow either, I needed something to happen every 1500 microseconds |
| 22:58.47 | Shirik|AFK | I had to divide the clock ticks by 256 |
| 22:58.56 | Shirik|AFK | That's 1 step off of the max |
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| 23:02.05 | Zyndrome | that's not enough |
| 23:24.10 | lyn | mikma, old but awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPorliRVns |
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| 23:26.04 | Davnel | Industrial you still there? |
| 23:26.31 | Industrial | Davnel: I am |
| 23:26.43 | lyn | TUNAK TUNAK LALALALa |
| 23:26.45 | Davnel | sorted your problem yet? |
| 23:27.04 | Industrial | I did :) |
| 23:27.05 | Industrial | http://github.com/Industrial/idunitframes/tree/master |
| 23:27.12 | mikma | lyn: scheisse |
| 23:27.20 | Davnel | was it you missed passing the unit on? |
| 23:27.26 | lyn | mikma, awesome |
| 23:27.39 | lyn | mikma, playing this in loop XD |
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| 23:28.09 | mikma | lyn: you play with lederhosen-locale? |
| 23:28.21 | lyn | no i play a male draenei and in background tunak tunak tun |
| 23:29.14 | lyn | hahaha found the mp3 of that song |
| 23:29.15 | lyn | awesome |
| 23:29.18 | lyn | doing it on my ipod |
| 23:29.33 | Corrodias | the official music video is even better |
| 23:29.43 | Industrial | Davnel: yeah, forgot I was calling the player layout function in the other unit layout functions without passing the unit |
| 23:29.49 | lyn | with these indian power rangers? Corrodias ? |
| 23:30.33 | Corrodias | yeah |
| 23:30.40 | lyn | yeah |
| 23:30.43 | lyn | watching it in hd now |
| 23:30.45 | lyn | ! |
| 23:30.56 | Davnel | yeah I tend to do that too |
| 23:31.04 | mikma | lyn: what i meant was do you play with english or german client |
| 23:31.13 | lyn | mikma, eng |
| 23:31.38 | mikma | damn. all the coolcats play with eng |
| 23:32.01 | lyn | but |
| 23:32.03 | lyn | i can switch |
| 23:32.04 | lyn | :) |
| 23:32.05 | Shirik | omg |
| 23:32.10 | lyn | on my laptop is german |
| 23:32.12 | Shirik | no wonder people kept killing me in WSG |
| 23:32.14 | Shirik | they hate me :( |
| 23:32.21 | lyn | poor shirik |
| 23:32.34 | Shirik | check out this scoreboard |
| 23:32.53 | Industrial | 135G |
| 23:32.54 | lyn | i am totally inside tunak tunak atm |
| 23:32.55 | Industrial | ups |
| 23:33.22 | Davnel | hm paladins with backstab that would be fun!!! |
| 23:34.15 | mikma | lyn: i need a way of cheching item in both locales =/ |
| 23:34.26 | lyn | :o |
| 23:34.37 | Davnel | dun dun dun???! |
| 23:35.09 | Shirik | http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/835/wowscrnshot013109183050jk1.jpg |
| 23:35.11 | Shirik | Look at healing done |
| 23:35.44 | Davnel | not bad |
| 23:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Should have sorted it by healing done first :P |
| 23:35.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Failure :P |
| 23:35.56 | Shirik | Can you do that? |
| 23:36.08 | Zyndrome | yes |
| 23:36.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Just click on the column headers |
| 23:36.19 | Shirik | I swear I tried that before and it didn't work |
| 23:36.26 | Davnel | wonder how long It would take me to get that much healing done on dav |
| 23:37.24 | mikma | lyn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9341-Chamois.html#comments - comment nr2 from top |
| 23:38.11 | lyn | wtf |
| 23:38.14 | lyn | what he want? |
| 23:38.37 | Davnel | that reminds me I need to make sure internal checks are done via, the nonlocalised queries |
| 23:38.48 | mikma | select(6,GetItemInfo(GetInventoryItemLink("player",17))) returns a lozalized word i think |
| 23:39.11 | mikma | on enGB/UN it returns "Weapon" |
| 23:39.25 | Davnel | think I can get awawy without localising anything till the options menu |
| 23:39.30 | mikma | (that slot if offhand) |
| 23:39.46 | lyn | mikma, could be Nebenhand or .. Waffe oO |
| 23:39.48 | lyn | dunno |
| 23:39.50 | mikma | is* |
| 23:39.58 | lyn | cant test it atm cause laptop is not here.. |
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| 23:40.28 | mikma | lyn: well what does GetAuctionItemClasses return? i need colete list of german stuff |
| 23:40.42 | mikma | complete |
| 23:40.45 | lyn | xD |
| 23:40.52 | mikma | stupid adsl lags |
| 23:40.56 | lyn | send me a pm on wowinterface |
| 23:41.00 | lyn | with list of commands |
| 23:41.05 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.05 | lyn | and what output you have on english |
| 23:41.10 | |Jelly| | Well, you get the idea. |
| 23:41.13 | lyn | tomorrow ill send you the german back |
| 23:41.26 | mikma | i will when i get back home =) |
| 23:41.48 | lyn | k^^ |
| 23:41.56 | mikma | thats tomorrow evening or the day after |
| 23:42.14 | lyn | kk |
| 23:42.20 | mikma | lyn: i hate reports like that dammit |
| 23:42.29 | lyn | yeah, i dont even know what he wants :p |
| 23:42.55 | mikma | i guess the check doesnt work en german client |
| 23:43.07 | Shirik | Iriel: ping |
| 23:43.09 | lyn | ah k :o |
| 23:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.atw.co.za/end.html |
| 23:43.17 | mikma | because it returns "waffe" instead of "weapon" or so |
| 23:43.44 | Davnel | 9 is the only non localised part of GetItemInfo |
| 23:45.29 | Davnel | which is the equipslot apparently /shrug |
| 23:45.39 | mikma | ya |
| 23:46.25 | Shirik | Is Naxx require lv 80 or can you go in at 79? |
| 23:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | 80 |
| 23:46.47 | mikma | so i need a 'local weapon = select(X,GetAuctionItemClasses)' and hope the slot matches for weapon in both clients |
| 23:46.49 | Davnel | 80 i thinks the portal lock |
| 23:48.25 | Davnel | can but hope |
| 23:49.11 | Industrial | Why does a google for "unitframe clickable" give results that match only unitframe and click? |
| 23:49.14 | Industrial | :\ |
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| 23:49.34 | Davnel | how do you mean clickable? |
| 23:49.43 | Industrial | as in able to click |
| 23:49.45 | Industrial | :E |
| 23:49.59 | Davnel | bad news mikma seems GetAuctionItemInfo is localised |
| 23:50.11 | mikma | ya i know |
| 23:50.13 | Davnel | okay what do you want to do with that power? |
| 23:50.19 | mikma | but the slots might match |
| 23:50.45 | Industrial | nah, my unitframes are Button frames already and they have a unit attribute and *type1 is 'target' so What else do I need to make them clickable? :S doesnt the mouse already work by default on Button frames? |
| 23:51.02 | Davnel | well equipslots from iteminfo will |
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| 23:51.12 | Davnel | nope it don't |
| 23:51.25 | Davnel | well not via xml anyway |
| 23:51.45 | Industrial | I'm using CreateFrame('Button'), but I'll check anyway |
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| 23:52.00 | Davnel | apparently :Enable() will do the trick |
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| 23:53.01 | mikma | so back to the case, getauctioniteminfo will give a localized list of ah menus |
| 23:53.16 | mikma | i hope the list is in same order in both clients |
| 23:53.39 | mikma | like: nr1 = armor, nr2 = weapon, etc |
| 23:53.58 | Davnel | possibly |
| 23:54.34 | mikma | since i need a way to check if shaman has weapon in offhand |
| 23:54.58 | Davnel | erm auctionitemclasses you mean? |
| 23:55.23 | mikma | oh, ya |
| 23:55.24 | Davnel | info for some reason does not include the type |
| 23:58.08 | Industrial | Davnel: apparently you can't receive queries and I should ask first, but that defeats the purpose of saying something in a query. |
| 23:59.05 | Shirik | lua> t1 = {a = 1}; t2 = {a = 1}; local mt = {__add = function(t1, t2) return setmetatable({a = t1.a + t2.a}, getmetatable(t1)); end, __call = function(t) print(t.a) end}; setmetatable(t1, mt); setmetatable(t2, mt); return t1 + t2 () |
| 23:59.05 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1, luabot:1: attempt to index local 't2' (a nil value) |
| 23:59.42 | Tekkub | hehe, I love cross-faction emote communications |
| 23:59.51 | Industrial | me too :p |
| 23:59.57 | mikma | tekkub: all i see is /spit |
