| 00:00.43 | Zootfizzle | Thunder_Child: My subconcious is processing your request - estimated time to completion is about six years |
| 00:01.19 | Zootfizzle | Arrowmaster: SEc |
| 00:02.48 | Thunder_Child | copy Zootfizzle, will reinitiate this conversation in 6 years. |
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| 00:07.21 | mikma | http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/33661/4chan |
| 00:08.18 | Lunessa | Night guys. |
| 00:10.50 | mikma | oh, and apparently zoot is like deep thought, takes ages to process. i wonder does he also need a new computer for the job |
| 00:11.27 | Arrowmaster | mikma: nah he pm'd me |
| 00:11.56 | mikma | no not you, read the last lines |
| 00:14.00 | Zootfizzle | The amount of time it's taking is meant to reflect the relative importance of the task, not my processing capabilities :P |
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| 00:16.26 | mikma | hah. thunder_child is not important! |
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| 00:17.25 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/74015513 |
| 00:17.27 | Adys | "aww" |
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| 00:18.20 | Adys | the latest fan arts sent are really gorgeous |
| 00:18.37 | Adys | >>> whalekick("Shirik") |
| 00:18.43 | Thunder_Child | let me go see if i cant increase my thread priority in Zootfizzle |
| 00:18.44 | Adys | cide's broken |
| 00:18.48 | Shirik | Cide's nonexistent |
| 00:18.58 | Adys | that makes him broken |
| 00:19.02 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, that's not possible |
| 00:19.04 | Shirik | you're not nice enough |
| 00:19.08 | Shirik | haha, get it, niceness |
| 00:19.11 | Shirik | I kill myself |
| 00:19.19 | Thunder_Child | thats exactly how i'm going to so it? |
| 00:19.26 | Adys | ~whalelaser Shirik |
| 00:19.27 | purl | ACTION calls Jean-Pierre, a planet-sized whale from the future, who starts firing deadly lazerbeams from his head on Shirik, disintegrating every single cell from their body, leaving nothing but dust |
| 00:19.29 | Thunder_Child | ok...wtf did i just write there |
| 00:19.30 | Adys | that works! |
| 00:19.49 | Zootfizzle | See what happens when you mess with thread priorities? |
| 00:20.29 | Adys | laser beams happen |
| 00:20.32 | Adys | thats what happens |
| 00:20.49 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.58 | Adys | ~whalezero mikma |
| 00:21.04 | Adys | need to write that one |
| 00:21.49 | Adys | I'm tempted to write a quotebot |
| 00:22.46 | Adys | something along the lines of !quote 5 would quote the last 5 lines, !quote 5-10 would quote the 5 lines above the 5th before the message sent |
| 00:22.56 | Adys | or.. maybe something less screwed up but you see where Im going |
| 00:23.02 | Thunder_Child | yes...to hell |
| 00:23.08 | Adys | with you my dear |
| 00:23.12 | Adys | !quote 3 |
| 00:23.12 | batbot | Adys, 3 has not said anything. |
| 00:23.18 | Thunder_Child | i'm already there |
| 00:23.18 | Adys | foff batbot |
| 00:23.31 | Thunder_Child | !quote Adys |
| 00:23.31 | batbot | Thunder_Child, adys said: "foff batbot". |
| 00:26.13 | Adys | http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2009-January/072507.html |
| 00:26.17 | Adys | weirdo |
| 00:26.19 | Adys | good night |
| 00:26.41 | mikma | http://pics.kinsmir.nl/v/motivation/1165946166289.png.html |
| 00:30.56 | Adys | i should sleep |
| 00:30.58 | Adys | but, i had to |
| 00:30.59 | Adys | http://devcub.com/~adys/ati.png |
| 00:31.48 | Thunder_Child | is that supposed to mean something Adys? |
| 00:31.53 | Adys | yes |
| 00:31.58 | Adys | it means how badly ati fails |
| 00:32.37 | Adys | every time I see "ati" coming up in any of the wine mailing lists, its NEVER inside something like "I have an ATI card and this works fine" |
| 00:33.35 | Thunder_Child | does anyone ever send an enail saying "i have nvidia and i'm doing fine"? |
| 00:33.39 | Thunder_Child | email* |
| 00:33.42 | Adys | yah |
| 00:33.58 | Adys | I know I do |
| 00:34.02 | Thunder_Child | no..because no one sends stuff when everything is working...not even you |
| 00:34.16 | Adys | "Works for me using nvidia 9800gtx" is something I sent plenty of times |
| 00:35.17 | Adys | look at that |
| 00:35.23 | Adys | label:wineusers ati |
| 00:35.33 | Adys | second result "[Wine] Graphic stutter in WoW" |
| 00:35.41 | Adys | I'm astonished |
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| 00:37.01 | Adys | gotta run, my bed is getting impatient |
| 00:37.02 | Adys | night |
| 00:37.10 | Thunder_Child | sure it is Adys |
| 00:37.12 | Thunder_Child | night |
| 00:47.40 | bleeter | woohoo! 90 degrees... time for beach, beer, bbq and babes. so long northern hemisphere suckers!!! |
| 00:47.48 | bleeter | *32 for those with a real thermometer |
| 00:48.15 | mikma | hope your neck burns |
| 00:48.41 | Dashkal | Ok, that was a cool blizzcast. Lore hints *nom* |
| 00:48.49 | Tekkub | http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/948/948928p2.html |
| 00:48.53 | Tekkub | <--- big head |
| 00:49.47 | bleeter | Tekkub: I am unworthy of being in the same # as you! |
| 00:49.52 | bleeter | but you already knew that :P |
| 00:50.02 | Tekkub | yea but I can't kick you |
| 00:50.10 | Tekkub | Shirik! |
| 00:50.32 | bleeter | :P cyas |
| 00:50.52 | NeoTron | Tekkub: interesting, third party guides using tourguide. |
| 00:51.24 | mikma | i wonder is he asking money |
| 00:51.31 | Tekkub | it's what I designed TG for |
| 00:51.40 | mikma | money? |
| 00:51.54 | Tekkub | easy guide writing :P |
| 00:52.13 | Tekkub | have gotten a lil bit of money out of it |
| 00:52.28 | Tekkub | probably nowhere near what I woulda if I tried to be Carbonite instead |
| 00:52.39 | Tekkub | but my inner freetard won't let that happen |
| 00:54.07 | NeoTron | someone else writing the guilds sure makes that part easier for you :P |
| 00:54.22 | NeoTron | it's kind of funny to compare questhelper with tourguide |
| 00:54.42 | Pytlask | Tekkub: <3 TourGuide. Really helped me with getting to all the Elders. |
| 01:08.35 | Dashkal | Hope is on the horizon for warriors and stance issues: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/14697501918-gc-warrior-simply-outclassed.html (Just a tease, no details) |
| 01:08.37 | Amarande | I need to start keeping track soon of which Elders I've been to |
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| 01:09.40 | Dashkal | Can anybody suggest a good quest tracker? Looking for a similar feature set to QuestFu (It had a custom quest tracker and it's fu button's tooltip had your current quest list). |
| 01:10.12 | Dashkal | also had a custom quest details pane |
| 01:10.21 | Amarande | Dashkal: these days I use QuestGuru ... it has a custom quest tracker like QuestFu's, but doesn't have a fu toolbar |
| 01:10.43 | Dashkal | Danke, I'll have a look at that |
| 01:11.15 | Amarande | Apparently, I get retroactive achievement credit for all the Elders I visited LAST year |
| 01:11.29 | Amarande | which means if I want fifty coins, I'm going to have to actually keep track |
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| 01:13.58 | Dashkal | You do? I should check that on my druid (I didn't even bother trying for elders as she isn't 80) |
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| 01:15.36 | Dashkal | Amarande: danke! |
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| 01:23.41 | mikma | i wonder |
| 01:23.57 | mikma | does any bot here keep track of persons idletime? |
| 01:26.39 | NeoTron | out of curiosity, is unholy stance useful for blood dps these days? I remember earlier that it seemed almost to be a tossup which one was best (but my gear sucked at the time, and it wasn't while raiding) |
| 01:27.24 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I find that it depends on how mobile the fight is. For a high mobility fight it's worth it. For patchwerk you stay in blood |
| 01:27.58 | Dashkal | Though I've never been bored enough to take actual benchmarks with/without |
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| 01:31.20 | NeoTron | when I did 5-mans it felt like I had sufficient time to almost never cap my runic power |
| 01:31.42 | NeoTron | the mobility is useful but... not when you have an unholy dk with unholy aura :P |
| 01:33.51 | Dashkal | I don't think we have any unholy DKs atm. Both of the other 80s went frost |
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| 01:35.05 | mikma | unholy is fun in pvp <3 |
| 01:37.50 | Dashkal | I'm starting to feel the need to play unholy again. Once in awhile I like the other playstyle |
| 01:38.07 | Dashkal | I've never been that (pardon the pun) warm to frost |
| 01:38.38 | mikma | The bosses in AQ, Onyxia's Lair and Zul'Gurub have had their cash drops significantly reduced. About 50-70%. |
| 01:39.00 | mikma | no wonder all we got was 25g per face (two of us) |
| 01:39.34 | mikma | shirik: whats that [atxbot ? |
| 01:39.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:40.08 | mikma | dashkal: i currently have minion supporting build + glyphs. priceless |
| 01:40.39 | mikma | shirik: > ::: patxbot754 is now known as [atxbot |
| 01:40.42 | Dashkal | I don't like it so much to be willing to glyph for it, but I'll solo spec it and do heroics and such |
| 01:41.05 | mikma | oh the minion is damn imba i tell you |
| 01:41.21 | mikma | hots for 600-1000 and can cause destruction |
| 01:41.39 | mikma | gnaw every 30sec + 70% avoidance |
| 01:41.52 | Dashkal | I should look at it again now that it has avoidance |
| 01:41.57 | Dashkal | Was bloddy useless before that |
| 01:42.08 | mikma | and with correct spec the minion is summonable almost all the time |
| 01:42.15 | Shirik | mikma: How should I know |
| 01:42.24 | mikma | shirik: ask him! |
| 01:42.26 | Dashkal | NotD does tend to make it come back pretty quickly |
| 01:42.27 | Shirik | You! |
| 01:42.55 | mikma | [atxbot: who are you and why do you have "bot" in your nick |
| 01:43.00 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I still tank as unholy. it's awesomesauce |
| 01:43.16 | mikma | dashkal: notd was imba then, its even more imba now =) |
| 01:43.18 | NeoTron | I personally don't like the frost play style |
| 01:43.22 | NeoTron | never really have |
| 01:43.25 | Dashkal | NeoTron: It's something I've considered, but not until I have a chance to test blood tanking |
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| 01:43.44 | Dashkal | Frost is something I'll spec into only if I get bored enough to dual wield for awhile |
| 01:43.48 | NeoTron | I'd like to see what kind of deeps a t7.5 frost tank does.. while tanking |
| 01:44.18 | Dashkal | Or for group pvp. Hungering cold rocks when assualting a flag |
| 01:44.19 | mikma | when i pop my tankgear on + frost presence.... my minion has 22k life |
| 01:44.41 | NeoTron | the doomguard of a friend (not demo spec) had around 49.5k health |
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| 01:46.09 | mikma | dashkal: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_012109_125807.jpg |
| 01:46.45 | NeoTron | if I specced for dps I likely would first try unholy build. Again because I really like the play style |
| 01:46.47 | Dashkal | Hmm, that's actually pretty tempting. |
| 01:46.50 | NeoTron | blood 2nd, and frost.. not so much |
| 01:47.05 | Amarande | DKs tank via doing extreme DPS, so frost probably has even better dps than blood? |
| 01:47.21 | Dashkal | I did kind of prefer tanking as frost, but the reasoning is moot now that they've nerfed the oh-shits and buffed frost presence |
| 01:47.31 | Dashkal | The only reason I preferred it is I didn't feel as spikey |
| 01:47.37 | NeoTron | Amarande: that's what I wonder. I do periods of 8000 tps, sustaining well over 6000 tps if not 7000 |
| 01:48.03 | Dashkal | Unholy just "feels" smother than frost ever did to me |
| 01:48.06 | NeoTron | did almost 3000 DPS on patchwerk.. with pet |
| 01:48.18 | NeoTron | so about 2500 self-dps |
| 01:48.29 | mikma | the pet is awesome in pvp too |
| 01:48.42 | Dashkal | Blood (when taking epidemic and ahannialation[sp]) is actually a pretty hard rotation to keep up, so that's a point in favour of unholy |
| 01:48.43 | mikma | if you die the pet always gets resurrected with you |
| 01:48.48 | mikma | even if it died |
| 01:49.12 | mikma | aaaaand if you die and raise as ghoul, the minion stays for that duration! |
| 01:49.37 | NeoTron | Blood has the benefit of <if you can use heart strike use it else use obliterate/it|PS> |
| 01:49.47 | NeoTron | where in unholy and also frost you need to not use runes asap |
| 01:49.51 | NeoTron | so in that aspect it's easier |
| 01:49.53 | Dashkal | I <3 Heart Strike so very much |
| 01:50.13 | Dashkal | The hard part is a blood rotation with those talents isn't a simple 10s rotation anymore. The kind of "roll" into each other |
| 01:50.42 | NeoTron | well I use the SS glyph so my diseases has very variable duration |
| 01:50.43 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> frost rotations are fairlyeasy... |
| 01:50.44 | Dashkal | IT/PS and Oblit change places every 2nd or 3rd rotation (been awhile since I've played it) |
| 01:50.51 | mikma | i hope to see my hp raising into 23k tomorrow |
| 01:51.05 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: it's annoying to have one of ones attacks be on a separate cooldown |
| 01:51.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you can drop PS entirely, and its a nice (relatively) smooth rotation |
| 01:51.27 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: yeah, but you can easily sub in oblit instead. |
| 01:51.51 | Dashkal | The simplest rotation I know of is blood without those talents. A very simple IT/PS/HS/HS/Oblit/Runic | IT/PS/HS/HS/HS/HS/Runic |
| 01:52.03 | Dashkal | But that does flat out less damage than the complex one |
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| 01:53.38 | Tewan | anyone do addon requests? ._. |
| 01:53.40 | Dashkal | More than enough for heroics, though, so I use it during the week. |
| 01:54.02 | Dashkal | Tewan: unlikely, but pitch it anyway. One of us may know of something that does what you want |
| 01:54.35 | Tewan | Dashkal, you know about the disappearing mouse issue in wine? |
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| 01:54.46 | Dashkal | Tewan: Oh yes, oh HELL yes I know about it |
| 01:55.00 | Tewan | I have an idea on how to make it easier to deal with |
| 01:55.11 | Dashkal | You know of some way to force it back? |
| 01:55.18 | Tewan | cursorcastbar still appears around the invisible cursor |
| 01:55.36 | Tewan | so if you can make an addon to draw a cursor over the cursor |
| 01:55.42 | Tewan | but only when >x range |
| 01:55.42 | Dashkal | Ahhh |
| 01:55.47 | Tewan | then you'd always have one |
| 01:56.05 | Dashkal | That would interact oddly with the real cursor (which does appear from time to time) |
| 01:56.18 | Dashkal | You'd end up with a mouse trail half the time |
| 01:56.41 | Tewan | not if it detects range |
| 01:56.46 | mikma | actually there is addon that leaves a mousetrail |
| 01:57.00 | mikma | a glowy trail =) |
| 01:57.00 | Dashkal | I'm not understanding what you mean by >x range |
| 01:57.25 | Tewan | it only happens when the range of the thing you're hover over is (x) range or more |
| 01:57.29 | Tewan | say, 500 yards |
| 01:57.31 | Dashkal | Oh |
| 01:57.35 | Dashkal | That I didn't realize |
| 01:57.48 | Dashkal | No, cannot be done. There's no way for an addon to know the range from the camera to an object in the 3D world |
| 01:58.34 | Dashkal | But thank you for that tidbit. Finally I understand why it only seems to affect me when flying... |
| 01:58.34 | Tewan | damn |
| 01:59.14 | Tewan | any way to draw a mouse cursor over the cursor at all times then? :P |
| 01:59.40 | Olorin` | if you have a editbox and you press enter with nothing in the box, OnEnterPressed event is not triggered, anyone know which one is? |
| 01:59.40 | Dashkal | Certainly. But it would potentially lag a bit |
| 01:59.43 | Tewan | or rather, a lin kto that one addon |
| 01:59.52 | Tewan | the cursor trails |
| 01:59.55 | Kirov | Tewan - you can display the last known location of the cursor |
| 01:59.58 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 02:00.05 | Shirik | We just found an awesome bug on sartharion |
| 02:00.11 | Dashkal | mwrarf? |
| 02:00.18 | Shirik | We duplicated it too |
| 02:00.29 | Shirik | If you drive a vehicle into the lava (i.e., mammoth) |
| 02:00.39 | Shirik | it blows up, and you port straight to sartharion |
| 02:00.41 | Shirik | and proceed to get owned |
| 02:00.47 | Dashkal | niiice |
| 02:00.48 | Shirik | you can be miles away, etc. |
| 02:01.04 | Kirov | lol |
| 02:01.17 | Dashkal | Does it wipe the raid or just him? |
| 02:01.27 | Shirik | we were running away and he seems to reset |
| 02:01.32 | Shirik | but may just be because we were pretty far away |
| 02:01.39 | Dashkal | my GL is gonna hate me.... |
| 02:01.48 | mikma | hmmmmmm, necrosis or imourity |
| 02:01.53 | mikma | impurity* |
| 02:02.02 | Tewan | Dashkal, |
| 02:02.14 | Shirik | oh! |
| 02:02.17 | Shirik | You have to be in the lava tornado |
| 02:02.21 | Tewan | If you set your view distance to the third click (or lower), the cursor no longer disappears |
| 02:02.25 | Tewan | that's a known "fix" |
| 02:02.28 | mikma | shirik: corpse explosion! |
| 02:03.06 | Dashkal | Tewan: *nods* danke. That's not too much of a penality to me anyway. I only play in wine on my lower powered box anyway |
| 02:03.24 | Tewan | it's my main box :P |
| 02:03.32 | Tewan | I'll just keep it like this |
| 02:03.34 | Tewan | not like it matters muchj |
| 02:03.36 | Dashkal | I play enough games to warrant a winblows install |
| 02:03.39 | Tewan | I don't need to see across the map |
| 02:04.32 | Dashkal | time to jet. laters |
| 02:09.40 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 02:09.41 | Shirik | http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/austin/entries/2009/01/28/sign_hacker_broadcasts_zombie.html |
| 02:11.24 | Tewan | Ha, I live near there |
| 02:11.25 | Tewan | :P |
| 02:11.38 | mikma | shirik: yooooooooo! |
| 02:11.46 | Shirik | ?? |
| 02:11.55 | Shirik | yo ho ho and a bottle of rum |
| 02:12.36 | mikma | shirik: clearly you need some sort of anti-idle mechanism hereza |
| 02:12.42 | mikma | -za + ! |
| 02:12.43 | Shirik | ??? |
| 02:12.55 | Shirik | /mode Shirik -za+! |
| 02:13.28 | Tewan | Keep Austin Weird \../, |
| 02:13.28 | mikma | shirik: like, dont talk for a week, you get the boot! |
| 02:13.36 | mikma | shirik: hereza -> -za -> +! = here! |
| 02:14.05 | mikma | fn button is too near to z and a makes ! when fn is pressed |
| 02:14.38 | mikma | so fn + a (!) turned into za =D |
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| 02:16.55 | Shirik | there you go? |
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| 02:17.10 | mikma | yey, idling banned. |
| 02:17.19 | durcyn | what's wrong with austin? :( |
| 02:17.36 | Shirik | made austin powers |
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| 02:24.32 | Syzgyn | My guild progresses awesomely |
| 02:24.39 | Syzgyn | Last week, 3 drakes down |
| 02:24.46 | Syzgyn | This week, wipe on the first trash pull |
| 02:25.25 | NeoTron | love consistency |
| 02:25.43 | Syzgyn | If it means we oneshot it this week, I wont complain |
| 02:26.16 | Shirik | oi |
| 02:26.25 | Shirik | my guild is now calling the new warlock summoning stones "televisions" |
| 02:27.22 | Syzgyn | Lol |
| 02:29.02 | Tekkub | they are kinda weird |
| 02:29.24 | Tekkub | I was expecting the usual meeting stone, just maybe smaller |
| 02:29.50 | Syzgyn | Same |
| 02:30.39 | Tekkub | add some "evil horns" for the warlock touch |
| 02:32.31 | Syzgyn | I think someone was calling them closets in my raid yesterday |
| 02:33.38 | Tekkub | the beardruid, the mage, and the warlock wardrobe |
| 02:34.39 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 02:36.27 | mikma | hmmh now i wonder what will happen to me in pvp if i spec out of rune tap |
| 02:36.38 | Tekkub | YOU WILL DIE |
| 02:36.46 | mikma | then theres only 1 way of healing myself =/ |
| 02:37.06 | mikma | sorry, 2. lifeblood + minion sacrifice |
| 02:37.06 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 27, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 02:37.06 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population realms. To find out if your realm is available for these moves and begin the transfer process, please visit https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link. |
| 02:37.28 | mikma | the thing is, rune tap returns 5k+ hp every 30sec |
| 02:37.54 | mikma | saved my ass in arena many times hehe |
| 02:38.04 | Amarande | arena :| |
| 02:38.16 | Amarande | it was so much better when it was just world pvp and battlegrounds |
| 02:38.24 | Amarande | arena has twisted and damaged WoW |
| 02:38.33 | Amarande | arena has caused WoW to drink the blood of Mannoroth |
| 02:38.57 | Amarande | if I wanted arena, I would play GW |
| 02:39.07 | mikma | i agree. i hate arenas but i still like to get the gear =( |
| 02:40.28 | mikma | improved rune tap (+glyph) and lifeblood in a macro |
| 02:40.28 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 29, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 02:40.28 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population realms. To find out if your realm is available for these moves and begin the transfer process, please visit https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link. |
| 02:40.49 | Esamynn|Work | Shirik: !!!!!!!! |
| 02:40.53 | mikma | thats 8k~ hp in 3 seconds, and add minion sacrifice, another 8k |
| 02:40.57 | Tekkub | PvP ruins everything, even the PvPer agree! |
| 02:41.14 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Shirik |
| 02:41.14 | purl | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, Shirik!" and lops off Shirik's head |
| 02:41.17 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Shiibot |
| 02:41.17 | purl | stamps Shiibot on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 02:41.18 | Shirik | Esamynn|Work? |
| 02:41.24 | Esamynn|Work | your bot is borked! |
| 02:41.36 | Shirik | chill, he's auto-correcting |
| 02:41.49 | Shirik | I'm not sure why that happens occasionally, but I have routines implemented to check for it |
| 02:42.47 | Shirik | :P |
| 02:42.52 | Shirik | I have an idea |
| 02:42.59 | Shirik | go close out your Crucible reviews that are sitting in my queue |
| 02:43.25 | Esamynn|Work | Crucible bugs me with it's lack of a remember me checkbox! :( |
| 02:44.06 | Esamynn|Work | also, there's only one open, and it's actually in norgs' court :P |
| 02:44.12 | Shirik | I know :P |
| 02:44.25 | Esamynn|Work | so go yell at him |
| 02:44.30 | Shirik | you! |
| 02:44.33 | Esamynn|Work | not that I expect that to be effective ;) |
| 02:44.36 | Shirik | you're the one that reported the defect |
| 02:44.42 | Esamynn|Work | he'll just hide from me |
| 02:44.46 | Shirik | besides norgs hates me :P |
| 02:44.55 | Esamynn|Work | lol, why? |
| 02:44.59 | Shirik | dunno :P |
| 02:45.22 | Shirik | maybe cause I tore apart his stats routines :P |
| 02:45.43 | Esamynn|Work | lol |
| 02:56.58 | Esamynn|Work | phooey, the new char moves don't include any off my realm :( |
| 02:57.47 | Esamynn|Work | they did my realm once already, but I still see 300-400 person queues at prime time :( |
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| 03:07.48 | Amarande | Esamynn: not to mention it's anyone's guess how many guilds get b0rked this time |
| 03:08.05 | Amarande | the problem with these free realm moves is they -always- fracture all too many guilds |
| 03:09.09 | Tekkub | pfft, fracture my ass |
| 03:09.38 | Tekkub | it's more like trimming out the "I'm too impatient for the queue" fat |
| 03:09.55 | Esamynn|Work | or a guild just decides to transfer as a group... |
| 03:10.23 | Tekkub | eventually everyone has to pick, guildies or IRL friends |
| 03:10.29 | Tekkub | no one can escape! |
| 03:10.56 | Amarande | Esamynn: that's how guilds get fractured |
| 03:11.07 | Amarande | every time they do this, there's constant sob stories about it right afterwards on the forums |
| 03:11.10 | Amarande | basically, it goes down like this |
| 03:11.14 | Amarande | guild decides to transfer as a group |
| 03:11.30 | Amarande | people who for whatever reason put in their transfers later than the rest of the guild don't get transferred |
| 03:11.56 | Amarande | because apparently, if you're in the queue to be transferred, and blizzard decides they've met their goals, they will ABORT your transfer and leave you marooned on the realm you were initially on |
| 03:12.06 | Esamynn|Work | ick |
| 03:12.19 | Amarande | and then the people who don't get transferred can't transfer at ANY price, because usually the destination realm ends up LOCKED by that point |
| 03:12.39 | Amarande | so they can't even pay to get over there with their buddies |
| 03:12.46 | Amarande | and may have to reroll from scratch to continue with guild |
| 03:12.58 | Tekkub | in short, people don't like being aborted and left in a dumpster |
| 03:13.01 | Amarande | and not just scratch ... SCRATCH |
| 03:13.17 | Amarande | remember when you started your first character with no higher level alts to mooch off of? heh |
| 03:13.21 | Amarande | Tekkub: pretty much |
| 03:13.23 | Tekkub | also, not anymore you could just make a DK! |
| 03:13.30 | Tekkub | EVERYONE LOVED DKS |
| 03:13.33 | Esamynn|Work | :P |
| 03:13.35 | Tekkub | *LOVES |
| 03:13.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: once you learn how, it's extremely trivial. |
| 03:13.43 | Esamynn|Work | ~lart Tekkub |
| 03:13.43 | purl | resizes Tekkub's terminal to 40x24 |
| 03:13.53 | mikma | dk <3 |
| 03:13.58 | Tekkub | ~EVERYONE! |
| 03:13.58 | purl | well, everyone is Disconnect, or to suspicious of bobtheavenger, or a communiss |
| 03:14.08 | Esamynn|Work | O_o |
| 03:14.10 | Amarande | Night: unless you transfer to a pvp realm |
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| 03:14.29 | Amarande | I get the feeling that the pvp free move realms usually end up being gank city |
| 03:14.36 | Amarande | because you get all the impatient kids, and kids gank more |
| 03:14.39 | Zootfizzle | purl, everyone is not a communiss |
| 03:14.39 | purl | ...but everyone is already something else... |
| 03:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* depends on your patience |
| 03:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | i've leveled from "scratch" twice on pvp realms |
| 03:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not that hard |
| 03:14.57 | Tekkub | purl, don't listen to Zootfizzle |
| 03:15.05 | Amarande | Night: did you end up having to make resilience your primary questing stat? |
| 03:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 03:15.28 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqcZZfMMhtcogcoMfoux < i even mady myself a new pvp build! |
| 03:15.30 | Zootfizzle | Purl has been possessed by Joe McCarthy, I have to stop it :P |
| 03:15.35 | Amarande | of course, if you level a druid, you won't have to worry :) |
| 03:15.46 | Amarande | once you get near 80, anyway |
| 03:15.59 | Amarande | or at least you won't worry as much as others |
| 03:16.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i did it once as a warrior, and once as a shaman. |
| 03:16.23 | Amarande | ouch |
| 03:16.24 | Amarande | warrior |
| 03:16.37 | Amarande | did you see that post about how warrior is obsolescing? |
| 03:17.55 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i dont read posts by idiots. |
| 03:18.41 | Amarande | Night: it seemed pretty cogent |
| 03:18.49 | NightHawkTheSane | doubtful |
| 03:18.58 | Amarande | basically it had to do with the role of stances |
| 03:19.23 | Amarande | every other class with a stance bar, a given stance provides strictly a buff |
| 03:19.51 | NightHawkTheSane | "blah blah blah, whine whine whine, bitch bitch bitch" |
| 03:20.10 | Amarande | and generally speaking, do not impose any restrictions on the class as to the use of skills needed for their role |
| 03:20.33 | Esamynn|Work | Amarande: what is that guy smoking? |
| 03:20.35 | NightHawkTheSane | thats purely false |
| 03:20.39 | Esamynn|Work | do Druids not exist in his world? |
| 03:20.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Esamynn|Work: or priests.. |
| 03:20.49 | Esamynn|Work | ^ |
| 03:21.02 | Amarande | warriors, on the other hand, get heavy negatives with each stance, keep losing tons of rage with each stance change, and especially in pvp, have to stance dance on a regular basis to use necessary skills for their class because so many are restricted to one or another |
| 03:21.02 | NightHawkTheSane | or the notion that "classes are.. gasp.. different?" |
| 03:21.42 | Amarande | Night: shadow priests aren't going to be casting heals anyway |
| 03:21.54 | Amarande | shadowform does not restrict a shadow priest -for the purpose which they are specced- |
| 03:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | also untrue. |
| 03:22.48 | NightHawkTheSane | once more, "whine whine whine, bitch bitch bitch, i'm an idiot who doesn't understand that differences exist for a purpose" |
| 03:22.59 | Amarande | as for druids, again, you really don't form dance during a typical combat |
| 03:23.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ... only the bad ones don't |
| 03:23.10 | Amarande | not in a group setting, anyway |
| 03:23.12 | Esamynn|Work | ^ |
| 03:23.15 | Amarande | if you're dps, you're going to be cat |
| 03:23.20 | Amarande | if you're tanking, you're going to stay in bear |
| 03:23.25 | Amarande | if you're healing, well, THEN you might form dance |
| 03:23.28 | Esamynn|Work | unless you're asked to rez, or need to spot heal or... |
| 03:23.28 | NightHawkTheSane | shit, sometimes i form dance so much i need to pop mana pots |
| 03:23.42 | Amarande | well, dps druid maybe |
| 03:23.47 | Amarande | since they'd have to do auxiliary things like that |
| 03:23.53 | Amarande | your tank, is not going to leave bear form during combat |
| 03:23.55 | NightHawkTheSane | any non-tanking druid should be expected to form dance as needed. |
| 03:24.04 | Amarande | if they do, they deserve to be skinned |
| 03:24.10 | NightHawkTheSane | the only reason a tank shouldn't be, is because presumably they get smooched |
| 03:24.13 | NightHawkTheSane | smooshed* |
| 03:24.17 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, amusing typo |
| 03:24.34 | Amarande | Night: hm, are there any bosses that use any 'kiss' type attacks on the main tank? |
| 03:24.34 | Amarande | lol |
| 03:24.36 | Esamynn|Work | Amarande: neither is a warrior gonna leave defensive stance anymore |
| 03:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | and thats not even true, as i've done some crazy form dancing while tanking. just got to be clever about it ;) |
| 03:25.52 | Amarande | I've also heard of people tanking in cat form |
| 03:25.57 | Amarande | although, given the threat reduction on cat form |
| 03:26.01 | Amarande | that must have been some terribad DPS |
| 03:27.37 | Esamynn|Work | tanking... in cat form... |
| 03:27.41 | Esamynn|Work | ... |
| 03:27.44 | Esamynn|Work | ...... |
| 03:27.56 | Esamynn|Work | ........... |
| 03:28.07 | Corrodias | if the healer keeps up and the DPS can't... guess there's nothing wrong with that. |
| 03:28.23 | Amarande | yeah, except that your dps probably are idiots |
| 03:28.35 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 03:28.38 | Amarande | unless it's one of those cases like you're doing stratholme and you're 80 and the dps are stratholmey kinda level |
| 03:28.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ill do that when im dpsing in heroics if the healer can keep up and it's trash that doesnt do much |
| 03:29.03 | Amarande | dangit, when did I become so obsessed with strat and scholo |
| 03:32.00 | Corrodias | i'm sure i've told the story, but i never managed to get a group for those before BC. |
| 03:32.02 | Corrodias | as a healer. >:| |
| 03:33.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i was one competent group away from full dungeon set 2.. |
| 03:33.35 | Tekkub | I need a name for my attack table addon |
| 03:34.16 | Amarande | Corrodias: maybe I shouldn't let you heal instances |
| 03:34.48 | Amarande | speaking of nightmare instance thoughts ... |
| 03:34.58 | Amarande | it just occurred to me to wonder what heroic OK would be like with five druids ... heh |
| 03:42.27 | Corrodias | i tried for quite a while. eventually, my guildmates convinced me to just get in ZG with them without getting better gear. |
| 03:42.54 | Corrodias | worked all right, must more pleasant than trying to build a ridiculous set, too. |
| 03:42.57 | Corrodias | *much more |
| 03:46.00 | Shirik | whooooo |
| 03:46.28 | kd3 | raaah. wru medivh? |
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| 03:46.47 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: what's it do? |
| 03:47.03 | Tekkub | shows you your attack tables |
| 03:47.50 | Gnarfoz | live theorycrafting? |
| 03:47.56 | Gnarfoz | ...making it... crafting, really |
| 03:50.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ~fail Gnarfoz |
| 03:50.20 | purl | Gnarfoz: FAIL! |
| 03:50.22 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 03:50.26 | Amarande | does theorycrafting really make the game more fun? |
| 03:50.50 | Gnarfoz | Amarande: it enables you to excel at $role |
| 03:51.03 | Amarande | anyway, I wonder what heroic Volazj would be like with five druids. :) |
| 03:51.07 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: shush, you suggest a name for his addon :p |
| 03:51.13 | Tekkub | I really wouldn't call it theorycrafting, it's not digging into maximising damage and shit, just making it easy to get the hit cap, etc |
| 03:52.12 | Amarande | the one thing that always seems odd about theorycrafting |
| 03:52.25 | Amarande | is that you can easily come up with a logical talent build |
| 03:52.32 | Amarande | and have it utterly suck vs. the top theorycrafted builds |
| 03:52.49 | Amarande | it's like one or two particular talents are generally imba, to the point that you have to have them or you lose a huge chunk of your potential DPS |
| 03:52.51 | Gnarfoz | it probably wasn't as logical as you thougt it was :P |
| 03:53.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 03:55.06 | Tekkub | TableSalt |
| 03:55.13 | Tekkub | that couls work |
| 03:55.21 | Amarande | well, at one point I considered a 30/0/41 mage build |
| 03:55.30 | Amarande | then I went into rawr, gave it what appeared to be the best possible raid gear |
| 03:55.35 | Amarande | and it comes out to like ... 3k dps |
| 03:55.37 | Amarande | FAIL |
| 03:56.01 | Amarande | and yet, all the talents are ones that you'd logically expect to take on an arcane/frost hybrid build |
| 03:56.27 | Amarande | I am convinced that EJ builds are just imba |
| 03:56.40 | Amarande | although |
| 03:56.46 | Amarande | perhaps rawr isn't the real world heh |
| 03:56.49 | Gnarfoz | possibly arcane/frost hybrid builds suck for some reason other than not being awesome dps |
| 03:57.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: EJ build are based around math. if you do the math, and follow it to it's logical conclusion, you will generally get the same results they do. It's not magic, it's not "imba". |
| 03:59.20 | Amarande | Night: I still can't figure out how people are pulling 5k dps with some builds though |
| 03:59.37 | NightHawkTheSane | they don't suck. |
| 04:00.00 | Gnarfoz | obey the given spell rotations for their particular gear+talents |
| 04:00.21 | Amarande | yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if demo gives me the best dps with my gear |
| 04:00.22 | Gnarfoz | that were figured out in the process |
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| 04:37.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ... This is going to be a strange question, but does anyone know a tool/app that can do the same things as Quicksilver's Triggers? |
| 04:38.09 | Shirik | nini |
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| 05:19.42 | Corrodias | yesterday i heard about the first new feature of windows "7" that might actually be worth upgrading for |
| 05:20.05 | Corrodias | that you can rearrange buttons on the taskbar. when i heard that i freaked out. i've been waiting for that since nineteen god-damn ninety six. |
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| 05:23.20 | |pez| | I love that feature |
| 05:23.54 | Tekkub | you lie! there was no windows 96! |
| 05:25.26 | Corrodias | i didn't get '95 until '96 |
| 05:26.24 | Tekkub | slowfail |
| 05:26.37 | Tekkub | no longer requires a reagent and can be cast on others! |
| 05:29.43 | Shirik | Tekkub is so slow |
| 05:30.11 | Tekkub | says you, responding a whole 3 min later |
| 05:30.50 | Shirik | Rawr, I own you puny healers! |
| 05:30.52 | ZorbaBeta | corrodias, http://taskix.robustit.com |
| 05:31.03 | Shirik | Silly coh nerf does not affect my awesomeness! |
| 05:31.16 | Corrodias | hmmmm? |
| 05:31.23 | Tekkub | cannot nerf that which never existed |
| 05:31.30 | ZorbaBeta | that's the feature you've been waiting for since 1996. you can have it in about five minutes. ;) |
| 05:31.32 | Shirik | wws disagrees with your claim |
| 05:31.51 | Tekkub | you faked wws, you know how the log works |
| 05:31.56 | Corrodias | i am pleased by what i see, ZorbaBeta |
| 05:31.58 | Shirik | ssh |
| 05:32.00 | Shirik | not tell them |
| 05:32.08 | Tekkub | you were too busy faking your log and not actually healing |
| 05:32.17 | Shirik | although I do laugh at our paladins |
| 05:32.17 | Corrodias | when you finish beta and hit full release, i shall express my gratitude |
| 05:32.20 | Shirik | 70% and 77% overheal |
| 05:32.25 | ZorbaBeta | bah |
| 05:32.29 | ZorbaTHut | there ;) |
| 05:32.34 | Corrodias | mmm, huts |
| 05:33.08 | Shirik | hm, my greater heal had 63% overheal too |
| 05:34.05 | Shirik | And how did Spirit of Redemption heal for 11 |
| 05:34.20 | Shirik | ... and crit twice |
| 05:34.26 | Shirik | wtf is a crit spirit of redemption |
| 05:35.06 | kd3 | must be the priest version of the mage's conjured water crit |
| 05:35.10 | Shirik | wtf? |
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| 05:37.02 | kd3 | ...wth at xkcd? |
| 05:37.35 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 05:37.44 | Shirik | I guess Spirit of Redemption keeping you "alive" counts as a heal |
| 05:37.46 | Shirik | 20:41'50.328Kimina died. |
| 05:37.46 | Shirik | 20:41'50.344Kimina Spirit of Redemption heals Kimina for 2. (Critical) |
| 05:37.59 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: hah, thats so absurd.. |
| 05:38.20 | Shirik | lmao kd3 |
| 05:39.04 | Kaso | Shirik, http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27827 lists SoR as doing a Heal of 1 |
| 05:39.10 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:39.12 | Kaso | so of that crit it;d be 2 |
| 05:39.17 | Shirik | I have 2 crits for 2 and then the rest are 1 |
| 05:39.28 | Shirik | I died 9 times |
| 05:39.30 | Shirik | that totals 11 healing |
| 05:39.44 | kd3 | whee, that's more healing than I do any given raid night |
| 05:39.49 | Shirik | haha |
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| 05:40.18 | Kaso | Well, when you are dead you have 0hp, when you shapeshift to SoR you then have 1hp max, i guess, so you need to be healed to 1hp to be "alive" again and ofc SoR in invunerable so 1hp is all you need |
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| 05:41.47 | Shirik | oh well |
| 05:41.50 | Shirik | all I care about |
| 05:41.59 | Shirik | 1Kimina99 %0 %3 %4 958 69519 % |
| 05:42.07 | Shirik | Duroxx99 %0 %2 %3 994 63415 % |
| 05:42.25 | NightHawkTheSane | you need better healers. |
| 05:42.36 | Shirik | we really do |
| 05:42.55 | Shirik | though admittedly I do severely outgear them |
| 05:43.09 | Shirik | and I just got my 4 piece bonus tonight so now I get to even more outgear them |
| 05:43.21 | Shirik | though.... with the coh nerf I'm not even going below 50% mana |
| 05:43.25 | Shirik | I don't know what to do anymore |
| 05:43.36 | Shirik | I guess I'll start focusing on +healing and crit instead of spirit |
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| 05:58.42 | Fisker- | hay Shirik |
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| 06:18.12 | WobWork | hehe xkcd made me lol =P |
| 06:18.22 | ReAn | isn't that the point? |
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| 06:50.08 | Kirov | sweet |
| 06:50.29 | Kirov | I just did The Undying at the same time as The Dedicated Few |
| 06:50.59 | Fisker- | you won life |
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| 06:52.11 | Kirov | Also got Subtraction |
| 06:52.19 | Fisker- | duh? |
| 06:52.22 | Kirov | heh |
| 06:52.39 | Kirov | We got Shocking! as well, though I already had that |
| 06:53.03 | Fisker- | Shocking! |
| 06:53.10 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:54.30 | Kirov | I'm flying around on my drake (for 5 man heroics) with my name turned on so I can see the Undying on it |
| 07:04.47 | Tekkub | and then you accidentally dismount and fall to your death? |
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| 07:11.00 | Tekkub | fuck, note to self, steam is hot |
| 07:11.12 | Tekkub | I think I just burnt my thumb without touching anything |
| 07:15.13 | Corrodias | reminds me of something i did many years ago |
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| 07:15.28 | Corrodias | see, i had never encountered a humidifier that uses HOT steam as its method of... humidification. |
| 07:15.56 | Corrodias | i decided to feel the cool stream of water vapor and watch it swirl around my fingers. IMAGINE MY SURPRISE. |
| 07:16.55 | Corrodias | or whatever was going on. maybe it wasn't visible, and i was checking to see if anything was coming out, which it was indeed. |
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| 07:21.26 | batrick | man teamspeak 3 is looking pretty damn good |
| 07:21.36 | batrick | sure do hope it replaces vent |
| 07:23.01 | Tekkub | I'm a bad person, I just tell people I'm deaf |
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| 07:28.37 | Torhal | Tekkub: Bah. I'd pegged you as someone who'd say "My ears can't process ignorance." |
| 07:29.08 | Tekkub | I find "I'm sorry could you just type, I'm deaf" actually works though |
| 07:29.26 | Kirov | emulate Kirov |
| 07:29.37 | Kirov | ~emulate Kirov |
| 07:29.59 | purl | personally I'd use blow fish |
| 07:29.59 | Kirov | gdi |
| 07:29.59 | Tekkub | it's a lot easier than "Fine, but I'm leaving the channel the minute it turns into 'nerd phone sex paty line'" |
| 07:29.59 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know why ts3 and vent are so bad. it's *not a hard thing to code* |
| 07:30.01 | ZorbaTHut | er, ts2 I guess |
| 07:30.05 | ZorbaTHut | mumble looks interesting, but I dunno if it'll ever be popular |
| 07:30.34 | Tekkub | because latency and bandwidth? |
| 07:30.40 | Tekkub | they're never guaranteed |
| 07:31.18 | Tekkub | hell, IRC is super simple, it's just exchanged text, and it doesn't work correctly all the time |
| 07:31.45 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, but the problems are easily solvable to the extent that they can be solved |
| 07:31.52 | batrick | Has anyone had the "Monitor" function in Ventrilo settings work in Linux (that is, it shows microphone levels when you speak), but not get the "Test" to work? |
| 07:32.51 | ZorbaTHut | while speech codecs aren't a *solved* problem, they're certainly a reasonably-understood problem, and there are completely free implementations available. from there, you just jam stuff in the pipe, let it buffer a little, and start streaming it right back out. the rest is just interface, until you get into wacky noise-cancellation and reverb-removal stuff |
| 07:33.20 | Tekkub | yea but is that where the apps fail, at the codec level? |
| 07:33.39 | Tekkub | or is it something in the UI? |
| 07:33.50 | Tekkub | what's your bitch with the apps I guess is my question |
| 07:35.01 | ZorbaTHut | I've had them crash :P the codecs are frequently bad, last time I checked they didn't seem to support server-side re-encoding, they do a crummy job with volume balance |
| 07:36.33 | Tekkub | 1) bad code I'm sure 2) yea don't know there, are there better codecs/implementations available 3) that'd put a huge load on the servers I bet, especially if (1) applies to the server app as well, 4) I think that's 2/3 user error (the sending user) honestly |
| 07:37.02 | ZorbaTHut | (3) maybe, but it's managable. audio encoding/decoding isn't exactly CPU-intensive. |
| 07:37.16 | Tekkub | inbound volume really should be normalized across the board on any one of those apps |
| 07:37.18 | ZorbaTHut | it's a load if you want to keep a thousand people on one server, all talking at once |
| 07:37.21 | ZorbaTHut | how often do you really want that? |
| 07:37.44 | Tekkub | well, if you're selling server use.... |
| 07:38.25 | ZorbaTHut | and there's one of the reasons I think they're crummy - they're designed to promote their own business, not to be a good program in its own right. I don't want to buy their servers :P |
| 07:39.43 | Tekkub | yea, when your target audience is people in a hap-hazard social group with little-to-no money available that model just don't work |
| 07:39.59 | Tekkub | hence why no one uses the latest version of, was it TS? |
| 07:40.37 | ZorbaTHut | that's why I'm looking at Mumble with some interest, I'm just worried that they can't break through the network-effect issue. |
| 07:41.08 | Tekkub | I'll just stick to "I'm deaf"... typing is just so much easier |
| 07:41.31 | Tekkub | growing up on IRC hath rotted my brain |
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| 07:43.43 | krka | wait... when you wrote a load, did you mean allowed? O_o |
| 07:44.02 | krka | or was there a word missing |
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| 07:45.19 | Tekkub | who what blew a load? |
| 07:46.23 | Corrodias | at least i didn't get it in your eye |
| 07:48.58 | Syzgyn | Bahaha: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/01/29/2009-01-29_saddams_hometown_unveils_statue_dedicate.html?ref=home |
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| 08:04.42 | Tekkub | Rommie's laying on my desk, curled up in my arm... snoring |
| 08:14.16 | Zootfizzle | RED ALERT |
| 08:14.19 | Zootfizzle | All hands on deck! |
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| 08:14.31 | Zootfizzle | Cogs detected >_> |
| 08:14.56 | cogwheel | WHERE?! |
| 08:15.03 | cogwheel | The only other cog i know is my wife :( |
| 08:15.14 | cogwheel | my whole family died in the gnomeregan tragedy :'( |
| 08:15.27 | cogwheel | WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME? :''''''( |
| 08:15.47 | cogwheel | /melodrama |
| 08:16.04 | Zootfizzle | Your... whole family, cogwheel? |
| 08:16.05 | Zootfizzle | Are you sure? |
| 08:16.28 | cogwheel | yup. i was raised by a dwarf priestess in ironforge |
| 08:16.33 | Zootfizzle | And what is death, now? |
| 08:16.47 | Zootfizzle | <_< |
| 08:17.34 | Zootfizzle | I guess I just always assumed you were legion |
| 08:17.37 | cogwheel | PS. OHAI Zootfizzle |
| 08:17.55 | Zootfizzle | PS HAI |
| 08:17.58 | Zootfizzle | PPS? |
| 08:18.27 | |pez| | Random stupid question of the day... Didn't Succulent Clam Meat use to stack? |
| 08:18.41 | Torhal | PPS == Pretty Positive, Seriously? |
| 08:19.50 | Tekkub | it still does |
| 08:20.14 | Zootfizzle | Apparently it doesn't autostack |
| 08:20.22 | Zootfizzle | I'll tell QA, thanks for randomly bringing it up =) |
| 08:20.26 | |pez| | Zootfizzle: Ooh |
| 08:20.26 | Tekkub | yea clam opening is broken |
| 08:20.31 | |pez| | Righto |
| 08:20.31 | Tekkub | has been for some time |
| 08:20.44 | |pez| | Boyfriend was being all whiny and "didn't these stack before?!" |
| 08:20.49 | |pez| | I bet he didn'æt try stacking them himself. |
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| 08:22.25 | Tekkub | Zootfizzle, you need to invent an engineering device, kinda like the old salt shaker, that you can place, say, 5 stacks of herbs or ore into and mill/prospect them all at once |
| 08:22.26 | |pez| | thanks XD |
| 08:22.35 | Tekkub | call it the Zootfizzlic Tinywave Oven |
| 08:22.59 | |pez| | That'd be awesome. |
| 08:24.27 | Tekkub | creates [Steaming Mass] which you open, kinda like the [Icy Prism] |
| 08:25.02 | |pez| | I really wish Icy Prism didn't require a freaking frozen orb. :\ |
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| 08:30.39 | jnwhiteh | Heading home to spend time with my family and go to my grandmother's funeral, I'll be back on Tuesday or so. |
| 08:30.41 | jnwhiteh | *hugs* |
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| 08:43.27 | batrick | anyone know if I can make pitbull enlarge the size of the entire player bar? |
| 08:43.36 | batrick | player frame* |
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| 10:01.55 | Thunder_Child | batrick, yes |
| 10:02.37 | batrick | i just found it thanks tho |
| 10:02.49 | Thunder_Child | np |
| 10:03.10 | Thunder_Child | i would have answered it in less than 1 hours but i just got home |
| 10:03.15 | Thunder_Child | hour* |
| 10:08.29 | Wobin | hehe http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SqhhJb_P3Kk/SYJIWa2YfNI/AAAAAAAAEtE/BUe4nfaH4DE/s1600-h/Neonazis+are+stupid.jpg |
| 10:09.23 | Kalroth | haha |
| 10:10.41 | Wobin | also, http://www.holytaco.com/if-movie-posters-were-honest |
| 10:12.28 | Thunder_Child | 2nd link is great |
| 10:15.47 | Wobin | hm, you learn something new every day |
| 10:15.54 | Wobin | rattlesnakes, cobra snakes, pit vipers, mambas, etc. are venomous, not poisonous. Plants, chemicals, and gases may be poisonous, but you can swallow snake venom without adverse consequences. Only after injection (envenomation) does it become toxic and potentially lethal. |
| 10:16.13 | Wobin | I never had appreciated the difference between the two words |
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| 11:41.51 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 30, 2009, 2:45AM PSTWe will be performing off-peak rolling restarts on all US realms today at 5:00 AM PDT with the exception of Oceanic realms which will be restarted at 6:00 AM EST (12:00 PM PDT).Thank you, |
| 11:41.51 | Shiibot | Blizzard EntertainmentJanuary 29, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 11:41.51 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population realms. To find out if your realm is available for these moves and begin the transfer process, please visit https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link. |
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| 14:11.00 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 14:11.01 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to technical issues the login servers for some realms are currently not operating at full capacity. The issues are being addressed and will be resolved as soon as possible.Affected battlegroups: Conviction, Rampage |
| 14:11.01 | Shiibot | As soon as we have an estimate for when the login servers will be fully operational again we will update you. Last updated at 15:00 CET.We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.30/01 Rolling restarts |
| 14:11.01 | Shiibot | There will be rolling restarts of all realms to apply hotfixes, starting at approximately 05:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted. |
| 14:11.16 | Lopeppeppy | Morning Lunessa-dear. |
| 14:11.22 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
| 14:13.18 | Lunessa | There is not enough coffee in the world. |
| 14:13.29 | Lunessa | Still snowed in Peppy-dear? |
| 14:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no. The roads were all clear yesterday when I went to work (barring secondary roads that are never clear). All better. |
| 14:19.23 | Lunessa | good good. |
| 14:20.02 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. They might not plow **during** a storm, but afterward they're out like gangbusters making it all Go Away. |
| 14:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | I'm allergic to (something in) my office. I get here, I sneeze all day. |
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| 14:35.03 | Lothaer | hey guys |
| 14:35.18 | Elkano | ho Lothaer |
| 14:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
| 14:35.29 | Lothaer | typ 1am :D |
| 14:35.32 | Lothaer | whats new guys? |
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| 14:35.56 | Lopeppeppy | Today am Friday, and I'm a crusade to find an expendable sheeple to explode. |
| 14:36.11 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:36.17 | Lothaer | its 1am Saturday here :D |
| 14:36.27 | mikma | fail |
| 14:36.31 | mikma | it's good to be in friday |
| 14:36.41 | mikma | party party, booze, naked chicks! |
| 14:36.56 | mikma | wait, what? what do you mean i don't drink and i'm married? aww :I |
| 14:36.57 | Lothaer | liar |
| 14:37.07 | Lothaer | you play wow no booze or naked chicks for you |
| 14:37.18 | mikma | but, but, my wife plays wow too |
| 14:37.23 | Lothaer | i hate you |
| 14:37.33 | Lothaer | i wish my GF would play wow then shed leave me the fuck alone |
| 14:37.35 | mikma | now i'm sad panda. |
| 14:37.55 | mikma | my wife is one of the mainhealers in the guild we are, she's a raider, i'm a "casual/friend" |
| 14:38.06 | mikma | i rather play pvp :) |
| 14:38.24 | Lothaer | id rather raid :D |
| 14:38.48 | Lothaer | wait its am on friday right? |
| 14:38.56 | Lothaer | for u |
| 14:38.59 | mikma | 16:38 friday \o/ |
| 14:39.10 | Lothaer | ahh friday arvo |
| 14:39.30 | Lothaer | 0109 here |
| 14:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | I used to play WoW with my ex. I still play it all by my lonesome. |
| 14:40.23 | Lothaer | is there any other way? |
| 14:40.25 | Lopeppeppy | Or not so lonesome, I have Lunessa and Cogwheel and Mrs. Cog and alestane. |
| 14:40.35 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | So that's at least 2 known girls in my guild, wheeee! |
| 14:42.03 | Lunessa | Kamdis, Tanashin - also both girls. The 'girls' out-number the 'boys' actually. |
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| 14:43.17 | Lunessa | Aldercy is also female. |
| 14:43.37 | Lunessa | So, lots of women in <Grounding Totem> |
| 14:44.01 | mikma | shaman-homos! |
| 14:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | Wait. You got a Kamdis and I haven't seen her in game yet? |
| 14:44.24 | Lunessa | Bring it. Ground Totem is immune. |
| 14:44.24 | mikma | i pity the fool playing shaman! |
| 14:44.30 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9341-Chamois.html |
| 14:44.32 | mikma | *cough* |
| 14:45.08 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Yes, Kamdis is about. Rarely, but she is. |
| 14:45.09 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: There will be rolling restarts of all realms to apply hotfixes, starting at approximately 05:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted. |
| 14:45.09 | Shiibot | Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
| 14:45.09 | Shiibot | > If you have submitted an in-game help petition please note that you will need to click on the ‘GM Chat Request’ that will appear in the right-hand corner of the game in order to open the conversation with a Game Master. Please see the General forum for more details. |
| 14:45.27 | Lunessa | mikma: :P I was getting all ready to have a fake internet fight with you. |
| 14:46.45 | mikma | lunessa: well we still can if you wish, let me start: Shamans are made from cardboard after you play with new noob-class, dk |
| 14:47.14 | Lunessa | mikma: And yet, I demolish them regularly - and I suck at PvP. |
| 14:47.29 | Lothaer | AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE |
| 14:48.32 | mikma | lunessa: i quote myself: with new noob-class, dk |
| 14:49.17 | Lunessa | Yes, many n00bs playing DKs. So sad. Phenomenal Cosmic Power; itty-bitty playing skill. |
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| 14:49.42 | mikma | aye. it's actually easy to level it to 80, but being good at it takes time |
| 14:51.10 | Lunessa | I wince when I join a group for heroics and the similarly-geard DK is doing 500 >~ less DPS than I. |
| 14:51.11 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: > 28/01 Free character migrationThe following Free Character Migration will be available from Jan 28 to Feb 3:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar, Silvermoon (PvE) |
| 14:51.11 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aerie Peak, Aggramar, Alonsus, Aszune, Azjol-Nerub, Bronze Dragonflight, Bronzebeard, Emerald Dream, Eonar, Khadgar, Kul Tiras, Runetotem, Shadowsong, Silvermoon, Turalyon --> Magtheridon |
| 14:51.11 | Shiibot | Burning Legion, Crushridge --> Dentarg, GenjurosGrim Batol, Sylvanas --> Shattered Halls, Vek'nilashRavencrest, Stormscale --> Haomarush, KarazhanAl'Akir, Outland --> Agamaggan, Ahn'Qiraj |
| 14:52.43 | mikma | lunessa: http://wow.reaktio.net/pvp/WoWScrnShot_012909_150000.jpg stuff like this happens :I |
| 14:53.57 | Lunessa | mikma: At least you carried the rest to victory. |
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| 14:54.39 | mikma | heh i wish :D |
| 14:54.49 | mikma | stats show that i soloed around = bad |
| 14:56.08 | Lunessa | I don't PVP really, unless there's a PvE reason to go - like the stupid f'ing PvP requirements for Holiday titles. |
| 14:56.32 | mikma | i noticed a cat has been standing on my print screen |
| 14:57.12 | Lunessa | O hai. I taked screenshootz for u. |
| 14:57.23 | mikma | WoWScrnShot_012209_151002.jpg, WoWScrnShot_012209_151004.jpg, WoWScrnShot_012209_151007.jpg, (pause) |
| 14:57.41 | mikma | WoWScrnShot_012209_152652.jpg, WoWScrnShot_012209_152654.jpg, WoWScrnShot_012209_152704.jpg .. and so on :D |
| 14:58.01 | mikma | 30~ screenshots of my naked blood elf in character menu |
| 14:58.08 | Lunessa | ... |
| 14:58.09 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy |
| 14:58.11 | Lopeppeppy | I love my cat. |
| 14:58.24 | Lunessa | Your cat as a BE fetish? |
| 14:58.33 | mikma | apparently |
| 14:59.15 | mikma | has been sitting on the printscreen for 4mins :D |
| 15:00.05 | Lopeppeppy | Baaaad kitty. |
| 15:00.09 | Lopeppeppy | You should get a keyboard cover. |
| 15:02.04 | Lunessa | ... So, I have to move out of my office... 'cause they're about to do construction... for 30-45 days. |
| 15:03.32 | Fisker- | a challenger appears |
| 15:03.45 | Lothaer | Lunessa: ROFLMAO |
| 15:04.08 | Lothaer | Yes, many n00bs playing DKs. So sad. Phenomenal Cosmic Power; itty-bitty playing skill. |
| 15:04.10 | Lunessa | construction is funny? |
| 15:04.15 | Lothaer | funny as LOL |
| 15:04.16 | Lunessa | Oh, that. :) |
| 15:04.36 | Lothaer | yeah good thing i didnt take that drink when i read it :D |
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| 15:05.14 | Lothaer | hey Seerah |
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| 15:05.27 | Lunessa | I have an infinite store of funny ways to look at life. Because if I didn't, I'd surely have found a high-powered rifle and a clock-tower by now. |
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| 15:09.34 | Lunessa | afk for java |
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| 15:11.03 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa dear, where are they going to MOVE you to during the destruction? |
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| 15:11.43 | Lunessa | I don't know. But they're apparently tearing up lots of stuff to make this happen. |
| 15:12.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Just remind them that you keep the computers running, so they'd better carefully coordinate where and when they move you, so that you can keep on doing this vital job. |
| 15:12.59 | Lunessa | Did you send him to the Animal Farm? |
| 15:13.12 | foxlit | I thought that was Room 101 :/ |
| 15:13.25 | Lunessa | Better ask Big Brother |
| 15:15.02 | foxlit | They pushed another 3.0.8 patch? |
| 15:15.33 | nevcairiel | yeah small bug fixes |
| 15:15.42 | Lunessa | Yes, bug fixes, but not apparently worth .0.9 increment. |
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| 15:19.38 | foxlit | Hm, nothing too interesting. |
| 15:23.24 | Lunessa | - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697622914&sid=1 - /facepalm |
| 15:24.33 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot help those who do not has the brain. |
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| 15:28.39 | Lothaer | le sigh |
| 15:30.13 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes? |
| 15:31.22 | Seerah | hi Lothaer |
| 15:32.56 | Lothaer | hi lol |
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| 15:36.18 | Lunessa | And this is full of lulz - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697553015&sid=1 |
| 15:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Is that what curl.exe is, WowMatrix? |
| 15:37.01 | foxlit | curl is curl! |
| 15:37.15 | foxlit | or, rather, cURL! |
| 15:37.43 | Lopeppeppy | Hurl? |
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| 15:39.11 | foxlit | or maybe hURL? |
| 15:45.43 | Fisker- | E: |
| 15:48.54 | amro | any netbeans users here? |
| 15:48.58 | Adys | yeah |
| 15:49.00 | Adys | ask amro |
| 15:49.20 | amro | he's an ass, never answers my questions |
| 15:49.30 | foxlit | ambush Shirik|AFK |
| 15:49.54 | Adys | yeah amro, ask Shiibot |
| 15:49.55 | Adys | Shirik|AFK: |
| 15:49.57 | Adys | bah |
| 15:50.03 | amro | nice tab completion |
| 15:50.11 | Adys | yours |
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| 16:06.40 | Lunessa | I <3 UAC and Windows Firewall. |
| 16:07.01 | Lopeppeppy | Whyfor today? |
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| 16:14.45 | amro | Lunessa: I love the options to disable them |
| 16:15.00 | nevcairiel | UAC drives me nuts |
| 16:15.15 | amro | any fins or finnish speakers here? |
| 16:15.23 | nevcairiel | I have to spend so much time working around it, so i disable it and keep my system clean the old way |
| 16:15.52 | amro | it's not that hard to keep your system clean if you know what you're doing |
| 16:16.14 | amro | I don't have any firewalls or anti virus software on my xp system, never had an infection |
| 16:16.26 | Spellbinder | no need to |
| 16:16.31 | Spellbinder | but relaxing |
| 16:16.47 | cogwheel | rawr |
| 16:16.51 | Adys | I run linux, I dont even need to use alcohol on wounds now |
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| 16:16.55 | Adys | no infections |
| 16:16.56 | nevcairiel | i have an antivirus just to be sure |
| 16:17.00 | nevcairiel | but no firewall |
| 16:17.09 | nevcairiel | granted i'm behind a router for incoming traffic |
| 16:17.11 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR |
| 16:17.53 | amro | no need for anti virus unless you have to receive lots of files from people who might be infected |
| 16:17.54 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: I love them because I have to support lots of users... lots of users who have no business installing things or disabling things. |
| 16:18.11 | nevcairiel | poor you, working in customer support |
| 16:18.13 | cogwheel | huh... 2 amazon orders in a row with 2-day shipping ended up taking 1 day |
| 16:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | Are you complaining, Cog? |
| 16:19.07 | cogwheel | no just puzzling |
| 16:19.08 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: Poor me, I'm a sys admin for a university... with lots of functions tacked on. It's messy to let people who don't know what a disc drive is acess to computers. |
| 16:19.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:19.30 | nevcairiel | Thats a kind of job i really don't want to work |
| 16:19.42 | mikma | lunessa: BOFH Lunessa |
| 16:19.45 | cogwheel | must be the post-christmas, poor-economy, anti-rush... they're desperate to move their wares |
| 16:19.52 | Lunessa | mikma: Indeed. |
| 16:20.03 | mikma | cool! |
| 16:20.32 | mikma | "no, there are no files in your homedir" -> rm -rf /home/user/* |
| 16:21.19 | mikma | i was the kind-sort of admin when i did that job |
| 16:21.20 | mikma | all i did was neat irc-scripts that allowed me to fook around with friends |
| 16:21.35 | mikma | like: /msg friend invisiblecode /join #gaysex |
| 16:21.41 | mikma | then they joined #gaysex :D |
| 16:22.02 | mikma | serves then right forgetting irc on in class-pc |
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| 16:22.26 | Lunessa | mikma: We're a windows shop. With Oracle and PeopleSoft and a smattering of *nix boxes. |
| 16:22.44 | mikma | lunessa: i'm sorry :( |
| 16:22.53 | Lunessa | Me too. But at least I have a job. |
| 16:23.04 | mikma | aye! good for you! |
| 16:24.10 | Lopeppeppy | Do we have to press it, or is it in a perpetual ClickState? |
| 16:24.29 | amro | it's a toggle actually, go for it |
| 16:25.16 | mikma | localization is a bitch |
| 16:25.23 | mikma | i always forget about the damn germans |
| 16:25.40 | mikma | ~lederhosen |
| 16:25.55 | purl | lederhosen is, like, lyn, scheisse, lederhosen! SCHIMANSKI! |
| 16:25.55 | mikma | purl: :( |
| 16:25.55 | purl | ( is probably feeling blue |
| 16:27.36 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/Chamois.lua <- but hey, should work now with lederhosen-people |
| 16:28.24 | Lunessa | Did you mean to link your code? |
| 16:28.33 | Seerah | must watch: http://gmy.news.yahoo.com/v/11779990/abc/20090129/av_abc_odd/_goodmorningyahoo_abc090129_gma_robbers |
| 16:28.43 | mikma | lunessa: aye |
| 16:29.16 | mikma | lunessa: earlier it checked only the english names of the spells, now it checks by spellID |
| 16:29.39 | Lunessa | mikma: The best way. :) |
| 16:29.43 | cogwheel | Seerah: haha |
| 16:29.53 | Lunessa | OMG. That vid. |
| 16:30.30 | cogwheel | silly kiwis |
| 16:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, Seerah! |
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| 16:31.03 | mikma | for some reason i need to watch the clip where the news-anchors laugh at the supermodel |
| 16:31.57 | cogwheel | hmmm... sleep deprivation = inability to read correctly... "Outback Steakhouse" -> "Obama Steakhouse" |
| 16:32.02 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aK1-K6OeBI |
| 16:32.07 | mikma | that's so so so good |
| 16:33.33 | cogwheel | haha |
| 16:34.18 | foxlit | mikma: boo, hiss, boo! |
| 16:34.25 | foxlit | [ http://wow.reaktio.net/Chamois.lua ] |
| 16:34.38 | mikma | foxlit: i rule. |
| 16:34.52 | foxlit | (UnitClass is available immediately) |
| 16:34.57 | foxlit | ("player") |
| 16:34.58 | zenzelezz | bit late; but Lunessa's comments reminded me of http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/know.your.sysadmin.html (specifically the Administrative Facist) |
| 16:35.44 | mikma | foxlit: yes it is, the pew is there because i had problems of wow recognizing spells earlier hehe |
| 16:35.58 | foxlit | move your if is what I'm saying :) |
| 16:36.09 | foxlit | if select(2, blah) ~= "SHAMAN" then return; end |
| 16:37.47 | mikma | foxlit: hey dude, what was your name in ed? |
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| 16:40.13 | mikma | well do you play there actively? |
| 16:40.38 | foxlit | More actively then anywhere else, really. |
| 16:40.59 | mikma | i was just wondering if you'd like to naxx10 + naxx25 with us sometimes :P |
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| 16:41.43 | foxlit | What, someone is actually short on death knights on our server? :) |
| 16:41.45 | Lopeppeppy | ~tackle shirik |
| 16:41.46 | purl | ACTION tackles shirik to the ground. |
| 16:41.52 | Shirik | oof |
| 16:41.52 | foxlit | ~~~ |
| 16:41.55 | Shirik | that's my job... |
| 16:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh-uh, I adore tackles. |
| 16:42.12 | mikma | foxlit: no, but gearing good people is better than getting a pug that sucks balls |
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| 16:42.52 | mikma | foxlit: we usually form raids so certain persons can get the gear |
| 16:42.55 | foxlit | Hah, true :) |
| 16:43.37 | mikma | my friend leveled his hunter from 70 to 80, and got 7 epics from the first naxx10 run we formed for him haha |
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| 16:46.33 | Kaso | Lopeppeppy, i have a random question for you if you're around |
| 16:47.04 | Lopeppeppy | I am, for about 5 more minutes. Shoot. |
| 16:47.16 | mikma | foxlit: if you really wanna puke: http://wow.reaktio.net/TomTom_FF.lua |
| 16:47.31 | foxlit | /ttff! |
| 16:47.42 | foxlit | (most awesome slash command ever) |
| 16:48.00 | mikma | it was ttbff, TomTom_BFF (see the worldplay there?) |
| 16:48.25 | Lopeppeppy | Best Friends Forever!!! |
| 16:48.31 | mikma | bingo! |
| 16:48.40 | Kaso | I seem to recall you know a fair bit about making costumes before, do you know what i could do about teeth. I need to come up with a reaver (firefly) costume, and they all have cool brown spiky teeth, but all i can find in stores are fangs, or "hillarious" buck tooth things. Is it possible to make something myself? |
| 16:48.57 | mikma | the "real" meaning was "Battleground Friend Finder" ;) |
| 16:49.20 | Lopeppeppy | Kaso: Yes. Look for something called Friendly Plastic. You soften it in near-boiling water, and shape it yourself. It will take you some patience and time, but you'll get something awesome if you try. |
| 16:49.38 | Lopeppeppy | There are a lot of custom teeth people out there, but they're a lot of $$, so try the friendly plastic first. |
| 16:49.56 | Kaso | and what about painting/colouring it, what sort of paint is ok to use in my mouth? |
| 16:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.sunshinecrafts.com/body_friendly_plastic.html is one link. |
| 16:50.06 | Lopeppeppy | And it comes in colors. :) |
| 16:50.55 | Lopeppeppy | If you **must** color it yourself, try using food dyes, but I'm not sure it will "take". Perhaps soaking in food coloring would work. But do NOT use any sort of paint unless you want to be brain dead from sucking on toxins, says I. |
| 16:51.13 | Kaso | yah that seems like something i'd want to avoid |
| 16:51.27 | Kaso | that stuff looks pretty ideal though, thanks very much |
| 16:51.37 | Lunessa | Wait - I thought the point of pugging in bars, etc. was to find someone who did "suck balls." :P Yeah, I went there. |
| 16:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | Enjoy, Kaso. I've seen some awesome stuff come out of friendly plastic moulding, if you care to take your time and make it look GOOD. I recommend some emery boards, variety of craft knives, etc. |
| 16:52.44 | Fisker- | idk my bff foxlit? |
| 16:53.04 | foxlit | Fisker-: come here, eat this totally-not-poisoned sushi. |
| 16:53.08 | Lopeppeppy | Now I go to lunch. I'll be back in about an hour and half, if you have more questions Kaso. |
| 16:53.19 | Fisker- | i hate sushi foxlit |
| 16:53.22 | Kaso | thanks, much appreciated |
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| 17:06.02 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12267-HAM-counter.html#comments |
| 17:06.05 | mikma | this was funny imho |
| 17:09.55 | sacarasc | Ban Zor |
| 17:12.18 | Industrial | Ban sacarasc |
| 17:13.56 | sacarasc | Industrial: But I'm not the one propagating a virus |
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| 17:14.32 | Industrial | sacarasc: have some brain viruses |
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| 17:14.43 | Industrial | sacarasc: you are now playing the final countdown in your head |
| 17:14.51 | Industrial | sacarasc: you are now breathing manually |
| 17:14.58 | Adys | screw you Industrial :( |
| 17:15.01 | Industrial | haha |
| 17:15.01 | Lothaer | hey guys what could be causing me to DC when i try to link items from a mod? |
| 17:15.14 | Lothaer | yes the items are available on the server |
| 17:15.15 | Adys | Lothaer: invalid link |
| 17:15.20 | Adys | can you paste a link? |
| 17:15.23 | Lunessa | Cake is a like. |
| 17:15.25 | Lunessa | lie |
| 17:15.29 | sacarasc | Industrial: which version of The Final Countdown? |
| 17:15.39 | Adys | the one with michael jackson in it |
| 17:15.50 | Industrial | the Dispatched cover. |
| 17:15.55 | sacarasc | Wrong! |
| 17:16.05 | nikniknik | hey - n00b question here about the wow addon sandbox - can an addon access external web resources? (eg, pull down the contents of an external URL) |
| 17:16.08 | Adys | Lothaer: if the item is not available on the serv the link will be stripped and will just be unclikable text |
| 17:16.15 | Adys | it cant nikniknik |
| 17:16.20 | sacarasc | Laibach it was |
| 17:16.31 | Lothaer | like when you link a item from AtlasLoot etc but when i link the same item from Set Wrangler i get DCd any idea what could be going on? |
| 17:16.45 | nikniknik | thanks adys. |
| 17:16.50 | Industrial | sacarasc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0MDsl0nM6s&fmt=18 |
| 17:16.51 | Adys | Lothaer: 100% the link is not valid |
| 17:17.15 | Adys | as in bad arguments to the link, likely the name |
| 17:17.22 | Lothaer | but it links from AtlasLoot with out DC |
| 17:17.32 | Adys | are you sure its the same link? exactly the same link |
| 17:17.37 | Industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLjDXxjkrWc&feature=related |
| 17:17.40 | Lothaer | yes 100% its the same link |
| 17:17.41 | Industrial | oo nice 20 version |
| 17:17.41 | Industrial | s |
| 17:17.54 | Lothaer | i link Wildheart Helm from AL fine try to link it from SetWrangler DC |
| 17:17.58 | sacarasc | Ah, shitmetal |
| 17:17.59 | Adys | Lothaer: are you sure you are sending it to exactly the same channel? |
| 17:18.10 | Lothaer | yes Say |
| 17:18.32 | Adys | can you escape the | and paste it here? |
| 17:18.52 | Lothaer | ? |
| 17:19.03 | Adys | escape the link |
| 17:19.14 | Adys | gsub(link, "|", "||") or something |
| 17:20.05 | Lothaer | partLink= "item:16720:0:0:0:0:0:0:0"; |
| 17:21.01 | Adys | What about the name? |
| 17:21.06 | Adys | a space can make you dc |
| 17:21.33 | Industrial | loool DJ Taka made a cover of the final countdown |
| 17:21.43 | Industrial | how parapara bad :( |
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| 17:28.09 | Kaso | Anyone play wow with wine and pulseaudio? |
| 17:28.54 | Pizik_afk | Kill pulseaudio before starting WoW |
| 17:29.12 | Kaso | yah, thats a solution, is there no way to get it working properly then? |
| 17:30.15 | Pizik_afk | Nah, Pulseaudio sucks big time |
| 17:30.44 | Pizik_afk | Well, there might be, but not that I found |
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| 17:31.06 | Kaso | pulseaudio doesnt suck. for most situations its awesome, just occasionally when it doesn't work it gets in the way |
| 17:31.43 | Pizik_afk | Well, it works, but then it doesnt, which is why I think it sucks ;o) |
| 17:31.45 | durcyn | pulse was bad enough when it was still called esd, what the hell was wrong with JACK? |
| 17:33.15 | Adys | Kaso: it works fine with me |
| 17:33.24 | Adys | the only thing that doesnt work with pulse is voicechat |
| 17:34.13 | Kaso | i have the pa-alsa plugin thingy, but it appears to crash pulseaudio if i try to run wine using it |
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| 17:44.53 | Adys | Kaso: Im using ootb alsa |
| 17:44.56 | Adys | from intrepid install |
| 17:45.01 | Adys | it works mighty fine with wine |
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| 17:46.48 | Adys | the only thing that doesnt work is voice chat |
| 17:46.50 | Adys | and only input |
| 17:47.02 | Kaso | i dont mind about that atm |
| 17:47.22 | Adys | you can just do sudo killall -9 pulseaudio; wine wow |
| 17:48.13 | Kaso | pasuspender would be the correct way to do that |
| 17:48.53 | Kaso | at the moment it seems to kill pulseaudio then fall back to oss or something, lord knows |
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| 18:06.17 | Lothaer | ~yawn |
| 18:06.18 | purl | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
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| 18:10.08 | Adys | ~whalezero kaso |
| 18:10.08 | purl | ACTION summons Hubert the Mathematician Whale to create a black hole aimed at kaso's body through a powerful unhandled division by zero. |
| 18:11.14 | Lothaer | ~AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE |
| 18:11.15 | purl | Oi! Oi! Oi! |
| 18:11.19 | Lothaer | :P |
| 18:11.26 | Lothaer | ~love purl |
| 18:11.26 | purl | If you love purl so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 18:11.33 | Lothaer | ~marry purl |
| 18:12.05 | Lothaer | ~high 5 |
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| 18:54.06 | NeoTron | ~developers |
| 18:54.07 | purl | well, developers is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE |
| 18:55.08 | Dewin | Needs moar flying chairs. |
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| 18:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | Needs more cowbell. |
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| 19:04.13 | NightHawkTheSane | http://notalwaysright.com/bacon-lettuce-and-taxes/1487 |
| 19:05.50 | Lopeppeppy | My momma always said, stupid is as stupid does. |
| 19:06.21 | Tekkub | momma also said "stop quoting me goddamnit: |
| 19:07.03 | NeoTron | I didn't order no tax dammit! |
| 19:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | Besides, I don't need the roughage!! |
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| 19:46.40 | alestane | There's a great quote for you..."I never thought that I could go to a movie in which the only thing that happens is that dinosaurs chase and eat people, and not be entertained." |
| 19:47.03 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, which dino movie did they not enjoy? |
| 19:47.19 | alestane | Randall Munroe, Jurassic Park III. |
| 19:47.35 | Lopeppeppy | I lovei t when the critters eat the humans... but I agree, 2 and 3 were subpar. |
| 19:47.59 | alestane | That line is closely followed by "What I need is a movie that's an hour and a half of River Tam beating up dinosaurs." |
| 19:48.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hell yes. Summer Glau rocks every party. |
| 19:49.20 | alestane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOS0sV2a24 this discussion commences around the 32:00 mark. |
| 19:51.01 | Thunder_Child | screw dinos, i want her beating up more reavers |
| 19:51.41 | NightHawkTheSane | http://xkcd.com/311/ |
| 19:52.58 | Lunessa | Summer Glau had a recurring role on "The Unit" in which she seduces and has an affair with a regular cast member. I watched the episodes just because she was all slutty. |
| 19:53.29 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, nice. |
| 19:53.57 | Lunessa | I don't even like that show. But... |
| 19:54.21 | Lunessa | Seeing her do "honkey tonk slut" was worth the watch. |
| 19:55.17 | zenzelezz | I can understand mistakes in automatic translations; but I can never understand how they can turn "right" into "left" and other such mistakes |
| 19:56.16 | Lopeppeppy | It's **fun** to do that! |
| 19:57.13 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/01/29/funny-pictures-tellin-u-2-go-home/ |
| 19:58.36 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. |
| 19:59.01 | Lunessa | Listen up people. It's 2am. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. Get out. |
| 19:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | I know who I want to take me home. |
| 19:59.26 | alestane | I AM TEH CAPTEN OF TEH CARPET SHIP! |
| 19:59.34 | Lopeppeppy | Uh... yeah. |
| 19:59.51 | alestane | Sorry, random thought on seeing the kitty with its head in the glass. |
| 20:00.05 | Lunessa | This is why we can't have nice things. |
| 20:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh, firefox is so bad compared to safari. >< |
| 20:00.31 | Lopeppeppy | Alestane is their captain. |
| 20:00.43 | alestane | Whose? |
| 20:00.50 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> I know who I want to take me home. <--- you must have plenty to choose from |
| 20:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: Nice things. |
| 20:01.12 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz: No, I actually don't. Scarce commodity. |
| 20:01.32 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 20:01.39 | Lopeppeppy | *gentle shrug* |
| 20:01.47 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm.. If i've got a milling loot window open, that i accidentally closed with escape, is there a way to loot the stuff in it? >.> |
| 20:02.12 | alestane | I think it's in the ether somewhere now. |
| 20:02.22 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: No, it goes poof. |
| 20:02.23 | Lopeppeppy | It went buh-byes. |
| 20:02.34 | NightHawkTheSane | its also preventing me from milling more >.> |
| 20:02.35 | Lopeppeppy | You said, "me no want" and it got offended and left. |
| 20:02.39 | Lopeppeppy | ReloadUI? |
| 20:02.54 | Lunessa | This is why I mill with AutoLoot on. |
| 20:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i do, but my inventory was full.. |
| 20:03.14 | alestane | I suppose it's possible, then, that the window is just hidden and didn't actually close the loot interface, since it thinks you're still looting. |
| 20:03.15 | Lunessa | oops. |
| 20:03.18 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 20:05.56 | Lopeppeppy | 1) Delete some crap. |
| 20:06.00 | Lopeppeppy | 2) Reload UI. |
| 20:06.05 | Lopeppeppy | 3) Cross your fingers and hope? |
| 20:06.25 | alestane | Before you do that, try typing /run print(GetNumLootItems()) |
| 20:06.40 | NightHawkTheSane | interestingly, reloading the ui caused it to loot the first item in the window (which i still couldn't see), and opening the mail ui apparently caused the loot window show.. |
| 20:06.59 | alestane | So did you get your stuff? |
| 20:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. |
| 20:07.17 | NightHawkTheSane | the loot interface was just "hidden", but still technically open.. somewhere. |
| 20:07.17 | alestane | So yeah, the window was hidden but it didn't close your loot connection. |
| 20:07.53 | alestane | I was going to recommend /run for i=1,GetNumLootItems() do LootSlot(i) end but it sounds like you're good. |
| 20:08.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it occured to me a second ago that there had to be API methods for looting |
| 20:08.48 | alestane | I think they're not even protected. |
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| 20:09.07 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, as i've seen mods that do some smart auto looting magic |
| 20:09.11 | alestane | Here we go: http://www.twolumps.net/d/20040526.html |
| 20:09.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh.. two lumps.. i knew that line sounded familiar. :) |
| 20:11.50 | Lopeppeppy | Meow, baby. |
| 20:12.06 | Lunessa | Someone run out and get me a sammich? |
| 20:14.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i ought to start selling snowfall ink.. |
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| 20:25.07 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.tshirthell.com/goodbye.php |
| 20:27.26 | Ackis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10316-TradeLinks.html <-- how can I see if that's on the wowi svn? |
| 20:28.42 | Adys | Anyone knows how to preserve linebreaks in css without a nobr behaviour? |
| 20:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | the white-space property perhaps? |
| 20:32.33 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 29, 2009, 7:00PM PST |
| 20:32.33 | Shiibot | We are now offering free character moves from select high population realms. To find out if your realm is available for these moves and begin the transfer process, please visit https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/ and click on the "Free Character Move" link. |
| 20:32.59 | alestane | http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#white-space-prop |
| 20:33.28 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: white-space pre gives a nobr behaviour |
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| 20:33.52 | Adys | basically |
| 20:33.58 | Adys | I want \n to be treated as <br/> |
| 20:34.06 | cog|work | Adys: depends on the browser |
| 20:34.14 | Adys | one that doesnt suck |
| 20:34.42 | alestane | So you want it to wrap at the edge of the screen, but also break on newlines? |
| 20:34.53 | Adys | at the edge of the parent element, to be precise |
| 20:34.54 | NightHawkTheSane | pre-process your text |
| 20:34.58 | cog|work | ^ |
| 20:35.00 | Adys | no night |
| 20:35.05 | NightHawkTheSane | then you cant do it |
| 20:35.07 | Adys | whole point is avoiding preprocessing it |
| 20:35.21 | cog|work | what you're trying to do seems outside the scope of x(ht)ml+css |
| 20:36.28 | Adys | http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/pr_text_white-space.asp |
| 20:36.33 | alestane | I think you're looking for the {whitespace: pre-wrap} property then, if I'm reading this right. |
| 20:36.34 | Adys | sounds like gecko is failing |
| 20:36.39 | Adys | its pre |
| 20:36.54 | alestane | Which may or may not be supported in browsers. |
| 20:37.03 | Adys | but it seems that pre ALSO acts like no-wrap |
| 20:37.06 | Adys | under gecko at least |
| 20:37.22 | cog|work | http://www.quirksmode.org/css/whitespace.html |
| 20:37.26 | alestane | "pre-wrap: This value prevents user agents from collapsing sequences of whitespace. Lines are broken at newlines in the source, at occurrences of "\A" in generated content, and as necessary to fill line boxes." |
| 20:37.42 | Adys | ohhh |
| 20:37.46 | Adys | didnt know about that one |
| 20:37.47 | Adys | thanks |
| 20:37.52 | alestane | pre-wrap or pre-line. But I think those are part of CSS2.1 and may not be well-supported. |
| 20:38.09 | alestane | I refer you again to http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/text.html#white-space-prop |
| 20:38.11 | Adys | if its not supported it will default to white-space: normal |
| 20:38.13 | Adys | which isnt a problem |
| 20:39.09 | alestane | pre-line might actually be the one you're looking for. It respects line breaks in the original but otherwise collapses whitespace as appropriate. |
| 20:39.15 | NightHawkTheSane | and you're not just using white-space: normal.. why? |
| 20:40.33 | Adys | pre-wrap did it |
| 20:40.41 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: because |
| 20:41.38 | Adys | thanks a lot alestane |
| 20:41.55 | NightHawkTheSane | because...? the moon is full? the price of milk is up over the past three months? |
| 20:42.06 | Adys | because i cba to explain :P |
| 20:42.08 | Adys | anyway naxx |
| 20:42.17 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, sounds more like a poor design choice |
| 20:42.36 | Adys | its just a rendering app |
| 20:42.49 | Adys | and i dont give a damn if IE users see shit |
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| 21:14.55 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4787/shaveqj4.jpg |
| 21:15.26 | alestane | ... |
| 21:15.28 | alestane | ... |
| 21:15.33 | alestane | ...WHAT!?!? |
| 21:15.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, pretty much. |
| 21:17.01 | Lunessa | ... I think that toy exists to promote suffering for the collective benefit of Chinese Warlocks. |
| 21:17.23 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
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| 21:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ............................. @ linked image |
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| 21:32.18 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0qMe7Z3EYg |
| 21:33.16 | Thunder_Child | you know you like it ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:33.35 | alestane | Cairenn: I thought jnwhiteh in particular would get a kick out of that. |
| 21:33.42 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:33.49 | Cairenn | I linked it in the staff channel for Dolby |
| 21:34.17 | Cairenn | and he copied it over to the Zam network channel |
| 21:34.39 | Cairenn | I likes i |
| 21:34.42 | Cairenn | it* |
| 21:35.04 | Thunder_Child | makes you wonder what NightHawkTheSane was reading |
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| 21:35.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: i'm just perusing reddit, blame them :P |
| 21:35.53 | Thunder_Child | suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure |
| 21:37.38 | Thunder_Child | slight mouse gestures + hiccups != fun |
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| 22:07.33 | Cairenn | wheee, net split |
| 22:08.02 | Pytlask | Duck loop? |
| 22:10.02 | Esamynn|Work | heh |
| 22:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | http://inessential.com/2009/01/30/new_publishing_system_tour_of_my_head |
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| 22:16.13 | Lunessa | Cairenn: That video... funny. |
| 22:16.18 | Cairenn | yeah :) |
| 22:16.55 | Cairenn | it's all alestane's fault, he dug it up first, I'm just helping spread it around |
| 22:18.55 | Lyn | mikma |
| 22:18.57 | Lunessa | thought virii |
| 22:19.11 | Lyn | http://deponie.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_013009_222814.jpg mikma, i am the leet shaman |
| 22:21.00 | Taroven | Lyn: What's that addon below your actionbars? |
| 22:22.06 | pezz | video? |
| 22:22.07 | Lunessa | Lyn: You're a clicker (no implied judgement, just curious)? |
| 22:22.50 | pezz | clicker? |
| 22:22.52 | Lyn | Lunessa, nope |
| 22:22.58 | Lyn | i just click totems |
| 22:23.05 | Lyn | but i have also a totem macro for lazy days |
| 22:23.06 | Lyn | :) |
| 22:23.19 | Lunessa | Just curious, 'cause I didn't see bindings on the bars. |
| 22:23.21 | Lyn | Taroven, fortexorcist cd bar |
| 22:23.26 | Lyn | not shown |
| 22:23.29 | Lyn | they are ugly :x |
| 22:23.38 | alestane | Cairenn: My department head forwarded it to me because I taught a web-design course last quarter. |
| 22:23.48 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:23.57 | Lunessa | Lyn: *nod* |
| 22:24.05 | Taroven | Ah. |
| 22:24.13 | Industrial | Lyn: whats the timer addon |
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| 22:24.27 | Lunessa | ortexorcist cd bar |
| 22:24.37 | Tem|work | Lunessa: bullshit. You implied judgement |
| 22:24.53 | Lunessa | Tem|work: Bullshit - you just want to fight |
| 22:25.13 | Lyn | Industrial, which one? lower left? mine |
| 22:25.15 | Tem|work | R = {x : x is a set and x does not contain x} |
| 22:25.20 | Tem|work | does R contain R? |
| 22:25.36 | Tem|work | That's what you just asked me, Lunessa |
| 22:25.59 | Lunessa | Tem|work: Yup. Let's go tank-boy. Bring it. |
| 22:26.10 | Tem|work | uh |
| 22:26.25 | Lyn | Industrial, if you mean the one in lower left corner... then it hides exp stuff when i am 80 :D |
| 22:26.27 | Tem|work | Plague Strike, Icy touch, Scorge Strike |
| 22:26.29 | Tem|work | I win? |
| 22:26.43 | Lunessa | Note: I happen to like Tem|work and he would kick my shaman ass anyway. |
| 22:26.57 | Tem|work | you're melee, right? |
| 22:27.02 | Lunessa | yeah. |
| 22:27.12 | Tem|work | yeah not a prayer :( |
| 22:27.19 | Tem|work | I laugh at melee damage |
| 22:27.36 | Tem|work | (though I'm pretty terrible at pvp) |
| 22:27.48 | Tem|work | I can handle stuff that's more like actual tanking than pvp |
| 22:27.48 | Lunessa | You're def-capped, and my expertise isn't that high. And I suck at PVP. |
| 22:27.51 | Tem|work | like melee classes |
| 22:28.13 | Tem|work | expertise doesn't deal with my defense skill imo |
| 22:28.22 | Tem|work | expertise bypasses parry/dodge |
| 22:28.32 | Tem|work | of which I have a pretty sizable amount :) |
| 22:28.34 | Lunessa | Frost Shock, Storm Strike, Lava Lash, Self-heal, Self-heal, fuck it.. rez. |
| 22:28.48 | Tem|work | are those self heals instant cast? |
| 22:28.48 | NightHawkTheSane | def increases your parry dodge, his expertise isn't high enough to bypass a sizeable amount of yours, is what he was saying, i think.. |
| 22:28.58 | Lunessa | Right. |
| 22:29.00 | Tem|work | NightHawkTheSane: yeah good point |
| 22:29.07 | Tem|work | sorry |
| 22:29.10 | Tem|work | it's 4:30 on a friday |
| 22:29.12 | Tem|work | I r dum |
| 22:29.17 | Lunessa | And I'm STARVING. |
| 22:29.22 | Lunessa | Someone get me a sammich? |
| 22:29.22 | Lyn | moo |
| 22:29.29 | Tem|work | does R contain R is still a good question, though |
| 22:29.33 | Tem|work | yay for paradoxes |
| 22:29.34 | NightHawkTheSane | me too, Lunessa, i was just about to make myself some lunch |
| 22:29.55 | Lunessa | I can leave here in 0:30 and I'll eat then. |
| 22:29.56 | Tem|work | oh that reminds me |
| 22:30.04 | Tem|work | I found a bug in my lunchbreak that I need to post about |
| 22:30.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "in" your lunchbreak? |
| 22:30.19 | NightHawkTheSane | or "on"? |
| 22:30.28 | Tem|work | http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/31333486@N00/2078466930/sizes/o/ |
| 22:30.32 | Tem|work | NHTS, in |
| 22:30.36 | Tem|work | it was totally gross |
| 22:30.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ew.. |
| 22:30.52 | NightHawkTheSane | THAT kind of bug. |
| 22:31.02 | Lunessa | lol |
| 22:31.19 | Tem|work | (no, I was just playing along) |
| 22:31.30 | Tem|work | (I'll link you to my post in a minute when I finish typing it) |
| 22:31.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:32.55 | Tem|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697492449&postId=146959518262&sid=1#1 |
| 22:33.12 | Lunessa | Lyn: The layout is nice. what resolution do you play at? |
| 22:34.07 | Kirov | Lunessa - uh, I'd assume 1680x1050, the same res as the screenshot |
| 22:34.14 | Lyn | 1680x1050 Lunessa |
| 22:34.24 | Lyn | :) |
| 22:34.26 | Lunessa | Did I mention it's 4:30 on a friday, and I has teh dum? |
| 22:34.56 | Zyndrome | Tem|work , been known for a while but yeah, Unholy Blight still ticking even when cancelled = arse |
| 22:34.58 | Lyn | where do you live? :p |
| 22:35.09 | Lunessa | I need a bigger monitor. 1440 x 900 isn't cutting it. |
| 22:35.09 | Tem|work | Zyndrome: PAIN IN THE ASS while trying to do Baron runs |
| 22:35.23 | Tem|work | I kill my UB and then OH HAY I PISSED OFF ANOTHER PULL |
| 22:35.26 | Lunessa | Lyn: I live in the Great Nation of Texas. |
| 22:35.35 | Zyndrome | UB is excellent for suprise buttsex |
| 22:35.35 | Lyn | ah |
| 22:35.49 | Lyn | GO TO SLEEP ! :P |
| 22:35.49 | Tem|work | also, DEAR FUCKER WHO THOUGHT A SILENCE/ROOT WAS A COOL IDEA, |
| 22:35.51 | Tem|work | DIE |
| 22:35.59 | Zyndrome | :D |
| 22:36.08 | Kirov | Heh. There was a woman in my last guild who normally isn't a great player, but that particular day she was playing really badly. She screwed up really bad at one point and apologized on Vent stating it was a "racial debuff" (she's black). |
| 22:36.22 | Zyndrome | those yellow-tinted arachnids w/e they're called |
| 22:36.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|afk: yah, that's a fucking pita. |
| 22:36.26 | Zyndrome | pain in the butt |
| 22:36.37 | Lunessa | Kirov: We use the phrase "Sorry I'm n00bing it up." |
| 22:36.39 | Tem|work | Crypt Beast |
| 22:37.22 | Tem|work | last night I had the pleasure of accidently pissing off 3 at once |
| 22:37.27 | Zyndrome | but when I go as DW Frost on baron runs, I pull just about everything and grin :P |
| 22:37.28 | Tem|work | I was perma-silenced |
| 22:37.30 | Zyndrome | HB kapow! |
| 22:37.31 | Kirov | Lunessa - http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=320-7345 ? |
| 22:37.47 | Zyndrome | I send my ghoul on those |
| 22:37.48 | Tem|work | I didn't respec just for it |
| 22:37.57 | Tem|work | so I was in my 5/11/55 tank spec |
| 22:38.10 | Lunessa | Kirov: That monitor is eye-sex. |
| 22:38.12 | Tem|work | HB makes low level instancing so much better, though |
| 22:38.46 | Zyndrome | I don't respecc for Baron-runs though, as I am usually 17/0/54 |
| 22:38.53 | Kirov | Lunessa - http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/InventorySearch?c=us&cs=22&l=en&lob=MON&MODEL_DESC=ALL&s=dfh other options |
| 22:39.15 | Lunessa | I was considering a trip to Frys |
| 22:39.20 | Kirov | I use two 248WFPs here at work, they're nice |
| 22:39.28 | Kirov | meh at Fry's for monitor buying. |
| 22:39.47 | Kirov | I use Fry's for a lot of things, but monitors is not one of them. |
| 22:39.48 | Lunessa | It's that, or Best Buy... Or drive an hour to MicroCenter |
| 22:40.04 | Lunessa | or order online. |
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| 22:40.12 | Amarande | hrm |
| 22:40.20 | Amarande | to level the druid, or to run scholomance again on the lock ... |
| 22:40.20 | Kirov | Lunessa - they tend to have limited selection, and only lowest of low quality of anything past 19" monitors |
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| 22:40.31 | Kirov | (for any brick and mortar place) |
| 22:40.38 | Amarande | Kirov: try the circuit city going out of business sales |
| 22:40.40 | Lunessa | My buying process is .. shop for weeks, drive to store and loot at physical examples, thing for weeks, finally break down and buy something. |
| 22:40.42 | Amarande | the one around here had a nice LG 24" |
| 22:40.49 | Mike-N-Go | I am having some trouble with tables. http://pastey.net/107319 is the first two entires in a table I am trying to do stuff with. |
| 22:40.56 | Tem|work | it also just occurred to me that a lot of my spells use Spell Crit for deciding if they'll crit |
| 22:40.59 | Tem|work | which annoys me |
| 22:41.07 | Amarande | Tem: amazing that |
| 22:41.08 | Kirov | Amarande - For how much? ... The listed sale prices are usually higher than the retail prices at other places. |
| 22:41.12 | Tem|work | since my spell crit is ~10% lower than my melee crit |
| 22:41.14 | Amarande | a spell actually using *spell crit* to decide if it'll crit |
| 22:41.22 | Amarande | Kirov: 359.99 |
| 22:41.40 | Tem|work | Amarande: well, they all scale in damage my my AP |
| 22:41.40 | Kirov | Amarande - Circuit City's idea of liquidation is just put the listed retail price higher so it looks like a better deal |
| 22:41.41 | Tem|work | so |
| 22:41.54 | Tem|work | using melee crit wouldn't be much of a stretch |
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| 22:42.56 | Mike-N-Go | Shouldn't db[1][1][2] return "Tailoring: Netherweave Net"? Or am I going about something wrong? |
| 22:43.39 | Tem|work | Yikes! |
| 22:43.39 | Tem|work | http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu170/austinspad/CoolNewMount.jpg |
| 22:44.20 | Amarande | blah |
| 22:44.22 | Kirov | damn it |
| 22:44.24 | Amarande | wtb direct teleport to scholomance |
| 22:44.32 | Kirov | I've done UP sooo many fucking times |
| 22:44.43 | Kirov | never seen it drop |
| 22:45.31 | Tem|work | Take a closer look |
| 22:45.41 | Tem|work | that tauren is having a wardrobe malfunction |
| 22:45.42 | |pez| | Can one of you do me a favor? |
| 22:46.00 | |pez| | need someone to send a mail to support@webmistress.no |
| 22:46.05 | |pez| | to see if it forwards properly. |
| 22:46.55 | sacarasc | Jenkins title is just retarded |
| 22:47.54 | |pez| | Tem|afk: I see balls and penis... outside the skirt.. |
| 22:48.03 | Kirov | Tem - oy, missed that |
| 22:48.29 | Tem|work | sacarasc: my guild has a /gremove policy on that title |
| 22:48.39 | sacarasc | Awesome |
| 22:48.49 | Tem|work | getting the achievement is fine |
| 22:48.57 | sacarasc | Just using it is tacky |
| 22:49.01 | Tem|work | wear the title and you get laughed out |
| 22:49.14 | |pez| | I tried getting the achievement the other day |
| 22:49.19 | |pez| | my team sucked donkey balls |
| 22:49.20 | sacarasc | Too many people have Bloodsail Admiral now too, so I don't even use that :( |
| 22:49.24 | Amarande | Tem: which means you need to get another title -before- you can get the Jenkins achievement, then |
| 22:49.34 | |pez| | had master-loot on and everything, and there was never any looting going on. :p |
| 22:49.49 | |pez| | Amarande: you can choose not to have a title, can you not? |
| 22:50.26 | Amarande | pez: when you get your first title you can't unwear it till you log |
| 22:50.35 | durcyn | yes, but the character sheet doesn't show a title selection when you earn you first title, until you reload ui |
| 22:50.41 | |pez| | Ooh |
| 22:50.42 | |pez| | right |
| 22:50.53 | Kirov | I use the Undying |
| 22:51.13 | Tem|work | We were one death shy of that |
| 22:51.13 | sacarasc | That one would be awesome on my shaman, who is known for dying |
| 22:51.20 | durcyn | i'm rather fond of "Salty" personally |
| 22:51.31 | Tem|work | Our pally healer missed an iceblock on sapph |
| 22:51.45 | Kirov | Did the Undying + all 8 man Acheivements at the same time. |
| 22:51.47 | Tem|work | and we haven't had our proper raid group since then to try it seriously |
| 22:52.00 | Tem|work | as a result, we give him SO much hell |
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| 22:52.15 | Tem|work | if he tries to criticize ANYTHING someone cracks a sapph joke |
| 22:52.39 | Tem|work | Kirov: with how many healers? |
| 22:52.50 | sacarasc | 8 healers! |
| 22:52.50 | Kirov | We weren't actually trying for Undying, we just got through 3 wings 8 manning and went in to the military wing and said "um, we haven't died yet" |
| 22:53.03 | Kirov | Tem - 1 holy priest, 1 tree |
| 22:53.09 | Amarande | I remember some talk in trade chat about how someone was going to buy the undying title |
| 22:53.11 | Amarande | and then they're like |
| 22:53.19 | Amarande | how do you make sure they get through heigan without dying |
| 22:53.25 | Amarande | (also: what if -they're- the one who dies on heigan ... heh) |
| 22:53.38 | Tem|work | I've never heard of anyone but us who does 4h with only 2 healers |
| 22:53.38 | Kirov | Amarande - auto-follow |
| 22:53.41 | Tem|work | how do you guys do it? |
| 22:53.47 | durcyn | the achievement is done by instance ID, so if you bring someone in for just Kel'Thuzad, they can still get it. |
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| 22:54.03 | Tem|work | Auto Follow is too slow for heigan dance imo |
| 22:54.14 | Amarande | Tem, it's only naxx |
| 22:54.15 | Kirov | Tem - 4h? |
| 22:54.21 | Amarande | it's not like it's, say, kara or something |
| 22:54.35 | Kirov | Oh, four horsemen |
| 22:54.38 | Mike-N-Go | What says they have to be in the room of the NPC? Can't they hang out just outside the room? |
| 22:54.59 | Kirov | Paladin 2x tank + melee shaman |
| 22:55.11 | Mike-N-Go | Or do you have to be on the aggro table of the mob for the achievement? |
| 22:56.00 | sacarasc | Kite the mob to the door and let them hit it through the gate ;p |
| 22:56.04 | Kirov | Tem - Paladin soloed one by himself while we downed the first guy, then we took over and he ran to the back to take over for the priest. Priest and Lock in the back. |
| 22:56.11 | mikma | lyn: rofl, leet shaman |
| 22:57.08 | Lyn | mikma, for sure |
| 22:57.17 | Lyn | the leet king |
| 22:57.28 | mikma | keet masta! |
| 22:57.55 | Kirov | Tem - basically, only two healers, but only the lock and I (mage) couldn't heal ourselves, and even then I'm an herbalist and drenai |
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| 22:58.36 | Kirov | We took down patchwork in 2 minutes 20 seconds with only 8 though |
| 22:58.49 | Lyn | ! |
| 22:58.52 | Taroven | Anyone know the event to watch for inventory/equipped item cooldowns off the top of their head? |
| 22:59.03 | Kirov | We've done 2 minutes and 5 seconds with 10, but one mage disconnected at the start. |
| 22:59.30 | Kirov | Taroven - INVENTORY_UPDATE ? |
| 22:59.46 | Kirov | (guess) |
| 23:00.29 | Taroven | Hmm, don't think so |
| 23:00.44 | Kirov | wowcompares.com |
| 23:01.21 | Taroven | I can use GetInventoryItemCooldown("unit", slotId) to find the cd info, just dunno the event to watch to trigger. =\ |
| 23:03.03 | Taroven | Found BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN... |
| 23:03.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|work: we did 4hm the other night with two healers. Spriest+Healer in the bank, Tank+Healer on Baron, Tank+EnhShammy+RetPally+Dps on thane, they just used instants to heal the tank, and burnt thane down. |
| 23:06.07 | Mike-N-Go | Actually for the undying title..http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2187#comments |
| 23:06.33 | Mike-N-Go | As long as there is no player blood, the people at the last bosses death get the title |
| 23:07.16 | Tem|work | NHTS hah |
| 23:07.25 | Tem|work | when we do it, I tank Baron alone |
| 23:07.30 | Tem|work | healing myself |
| 23:07.34 | Tem|work | it's quite fun |
| 23:07.46 | Tem|work | they burn Thane and the other tank takes over |
| 23:07.46 | Mike-N-Go | Tem|afk: Class? |
| 23:07.54 | Tem|work | Suffer Well |
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| 23:11.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|afk: what spec are you, and what do you use to heal yourself? |
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| 23:18.53 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti. See you Monday. |
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| 23:21.08 | Tem|afk | NHTS I'm unholy |
| 23:21.27 | Tem|afk | I heal with death strikes, death pact, health stone, health pot |
| 23:21.32 | mikma | tem|afk: poop! |
| 23:21.40 | Thunder_Child | , other people |
| 23:22.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem|afk: hmm. got an armory link? one of our tanks is an unholy dk, i'm wondering if he can pull that off too |
| 23:22.51 | Tem|afk | ew |
| 23:22.52 | mikma | tem|afk: ima gonna try this build in pvp: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EMqcZZfMMhtcogcoMfoux |
| 23:22.56 | Tem|afk | armory caught me in dps gear |
| 23:23.33 | Tem|afk | NHTS, link me to your DK and I'll tell you how he compares with my gear? |
| 23:23.59 | Tem|afk | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Garona&n=Doloros is me |
| 23:24.04 | Tem|afk | wrong gear, right spec |
| 23:24.28 | mikma | http://emeralddream-eu.warcrafter.net/Oe |
| 23:24.29 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> So, i go to look him up, and I find out that, apparently he respecced frost since I last looked. :P |
| 23:24.33 | NightHawkTheSane | but here's him: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Whisperwind&n=Daavii |
| 23:26.05 | Tem|afk | apart from Woeful band and titansteel boots, his gear looks plenty good enough to do it |
| 23:26.21 | Tem|afk | though I'm unsure if frost has enough self-healing to pull it off |
| 23:26.37 | NightHawkTheSane | does it really have that much less than unholy? |
| 23:26.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess you'd lose one disease on death strike.. |
| 23:26.53 | Tem|afk | you lose a disease |
| 23:26.54 | mikma | tem|afk: lichborne + deathcoil |
| 23:26.59 | NightHawkTheSane | but ^^ |
| 23:27.05 | Tem|afk | I have lichborne |
| 23:27.11 | Tem|afk | and the +DC damage talent |
| 23:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, fair enough |
| 23:27.15 | Tem|afk | which he doesn't |
| 23:27.23 | Tem|afk | wtf |
| 23:27.24 | mikma | tem|afk: pew pew selfheal |
| 23:27.26 | Tem|afk | no epidemic? |
| 23:27.31 | Tem|afk | fail |
| 23:27.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, i didn't spec him. :P |
| 23:28.07 | Tem|afk | well, maybe frost can do it since IT isn't completely waste of a GCD if not for the disease for him |
| 23:28.29 | Tem|afk | no merciless combat is a little wtf as well |
| 23:30.14 | Tem|afk | (also the death strike crit talent) |
| 23:30.24 | Tem|afk | (granted, death strikes don't crit very much in tank gear) |
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| 23:30.47 | mikma | heh no they dont |
| 23:30.53 | mikma | nothing crits |
| 23:31.02 | mikma | except deathchilst |
| 23:31.05 | mikma | skss |
| 23:31.14 | mikma | except deathchillled howling blast |
| 23:31.31 | Tem|afk | I want to take KM in my next frost build |
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| 23:31.57 | Tem|afk | I'm tempted to take HC as well |
| 23:32.00 | Tem|afk | but we'll see... |
| 23:32.33 | Tem|afk | lua>30000/180*5 |
| 23:32.33 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 833.33333333333 |
| 23:32.37 | Tem|afk | hmmm |
| 23:32.47 | Tem|afk | 800 AP is worth 5 talent points |
| 23:33.34 | Tem|afk | lua>30000/180*4 |
| 23:33.35 | lua_bot | Tem|afk: 666.66666666667 |
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| 23:35.18 | mikma | ya |
| 23:37.07 | mikma | Oh right i messed up me pvp spec |
| 23:37.29 | Tem|afk | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EZGxxzhedMhoVosxcg |
| 23:37.58 | mikma | i am not entirely sure do i need the parry-chance in pvp |
| 23:38.15 | Tem|afk | for raid tanking, it'd probably be better to move those 3 points from morbidity into subversion |
| 23:38.29 | Tem|afk | 9% more oblit crits |
| 23:38.49 | Tem|afk | hmm maybe not |
| 23:39.00 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jbAMqcZZfMMhtcogcoMfoux |
| 23:39.01 | Tem|afk | I kind of doubt that you can tank Gothik without Morbidity |
| 23:39.15 | mikma | which one is gotkih |
| 23:39.35 | Tem|afk | YOU HAVE FOUGHT HARD TO INVADE THE REALM OF THE HARVESTER |
| 23:39.53 | mikma | i still cant remember |
| 23:39.56 | Tem|afk | Why 2/2 butchery? |
| 23:40.07 | Tem|afk | live/dead side adds in phase1, mikma |
| 23:40.23 | mikma | tem|afk: oh, tanked him many times withous 2/2 |
| 23:40.37 | Tem|afk | mikma is not a tank imo |
| 23:40.54 | mikma | ya, i am sometimes =) |
| 23:40.55 | Tem|afk | BCB is a bad 2h talent, btw |
| 23:41.16 | mikma | think so? |
| 23:41.21 | Tem|afk | I'd put those points in garg and Pale Horse |
| 23:41.51 | Tem|afk | it does less damage than 3 point necrosis |
| 23:42.15 | Tem|afk | point-for-point necrosis is almost twice as effective as BCB for a 2hander |
| 23:42.19 | mikma | carg sucks balls in pvp |
| 23:42.34 | Tem|afk | how? |
| 23:42.42 | Tem|afk | people kill it? |
| 23:42.45 | mikma | you rarely have the runic power |
| 23:42.55 | Tem|afk | ah |
| 23:43.05 | Tem|afk | well, I gotta run |
| 23:43.06 | Tem|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.14 | mikma | all rp i got i spam dc =D |
| 23:43.31 | Amarande | should frost dps go 2h or dw, btw? |
| 23:44.34 | mikma | dw if you have the spec for it |
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| 23:48.58 | Olorin` | by chance does anyone use fuPerformance remember how to reenable it without clearing the saved variables for it, I dont use fuBar |
| 23:51.33 | Amarande | glah |
| 23:51.37 | Amarande | I need a Traveler's Tundra Mammoth :| |
| 23:51.41 | Tekkub | http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AbstruseGoose/~3/527412637/109 |
| 23:52.07 | Amarande | especially with how far the nearest vendor is from my current stomping grounds :| |
| 23:52.18 | Kirov | Olorin` - enable / disable of loaded plugins to fubar are handled by the fubar properties. |
| 23:53.42 | Olorin` | Kirov: thanks, kinda pain as it works as standalone adodn appart from enabling /disabling |
| 23:54.14 | Amarande | is there a vendor in caer darrow if you do the quests, or is that only auchenai crypts that has ghost vendors? |
| 23:54.24 | Wobin | Amarande: DW if you have the -gear- for it, too =\ |
| 23:54.33 | Wobin | since you need lots more +hit |
| 23:55.02 | Wobin | Amarande: Scholomance? |
| 23:55.13 | Wobin | There's a repair person, if I recall correctly |
| 23:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: your mom. |
| 23:55.43 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: She called? Damn, I knew I missed a phonecall. |
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| 23:57.47 | Amarande | Yeah, Scholomance |
| 23:57.59 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: there is but you need to have a special trinket equiped, but the good thing is that if you delete the trinket the npc outside scholomance will give you a new one |
| 23:58.16 | Amarande | I should get to doing the quests here, since I seem to be addicted to running this dungeon |
| 23:59.39 | Arrowmaster | i still want a headmasters charge |
