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| 11:04.49 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.0.x ToC: 30000 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Shirik!! |
| 11:04.49 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: *21/01 Free character migrationDue to population and faction differences, the following Free Character Migration will be available from January 21st to 27th:Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Tarren Mill, Trollbane, Zenedar |
| 11:04.49 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Alonsus, Aszune, Bronze Dragonflight, Bronzebeard, Emerald Dream, Eonar, Kul Tiras, Runetotem, Shadowsong, Silvermoon --> MagtheridonAl'Akir, Ravencrest --> Kor'gall, Lightning's Blade |
| 11:04.49 | Shiibot | Burning Legion, Crushridge --> Vek'nilash, XaviusGrim Batol, Twilight's Hammer --> Dentarg, DragonmawOutland, Kazzak --> Burning Steppes, HaomarushShattered Hand, Stormreaver --> Genjuros, Trollbane |
| 11:05.01 | nevcairiel | now if purl could auth again <.< |
| 11:05.07 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
| 11:05.07 | Guest75797 | nevcairiel: thanks |
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| 11:08.12 | Industrial | ~hug Fisker- |
| 11:08.13 | Guest75797 | ACTION hugs Fisker- |
| 11:40.18 | bleeter | well here's all I *really* learned from linux.conf.au '09 -> http://img.dennisr.net/acid.jpg |
| 11:41.18 | bleeter | oh, that, and I should be whoring myself to Google or Canonical |
| 11:46.45 | Fisker- | why so srs Industrial ? |
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| 11:55.30 | Industrial | why so Fisker- srs? |
| 12:02.11 | Fisker- | no u Industrial |
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| 12:14.03 | WobWork | zomg http://www.inprnt.com/details/1433/ cool =) |
| 12:20.24 | WobWork | also, the new Riddick game looks nice =) |
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| 12:30.06 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=11940#comments |
| 12:30.12 | mikma | does that sound cruel enough? |
| 12:30.49 | [dRaCo] | I'd say so |
| 12:31.09 | [dRaCo] | though, what he wants is probably the timer without the warning |
| 12:31.10 | sacarasc | You can never be cruel enough |
| 12:31.31 | mikma | ouch, not in the fapping-hand! |
| 12:34.14 | Industrial | sacarasc: use a spork |
| 12:34.49 | sacarasc | I'll never soil a spork with mere human blood |
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| 13:02.23 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/try_medication.jpg |
| 13:05.46 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/ikea.jpg |
| 13:06.13 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/blacknotblack.jpg |
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| 13:08.16 | sacarasc | Als |
| 13:08.20 | sacarasc | o |
| 13:08.29 | sacarasc | That went bad |
| 13:08.36 | mikma | yes, it did. |
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| 14:00.17 | Fisker- | hey mikma |
| 14:00.18 | Fisker- | my arch enemy |
| 14:04.58 | mikma | fisker-: go and fist yourself |
| 14:05.17 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 14:05.19 | Fisker- | i already did |
| 14:05.32 | mikma | was it good? |
| 14:05.34 | Fisker- | http://i39.tinypic.com/a5fbpi.jpg <-bitches don't know about title |
| 14:06.07 | Fisker- | +my :E |
| 14:07.42 | Arrowmaster | how did you get it just the other day? |
| 14:08.12 | Fisker- | Because Blizzard removed it |
| 14:08.21 | Fisker- | But they didn't learn2removeachievements |
| 14:08.28 | Fisker- | So for some reason i regained it with the 3.0.8 patch |
| 14:08.34 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 14:08.43 | Fisker- | Then they said they would remove it again |
| 14:08.46 | Fisker- | So they removed sinister calling |
| 14:08.54 | Fisker- | and now i have hallowed is thy name without having sinister calling :D |
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| 14:24.32 | Thunder_Child | thy kindom come, thy will be done |
| 14:29.20 | zenzelezz | on earth |
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| 15:06.55 | Industrial | hallowed be thy name |
| 15:06.59 | Industrial | (good song) |
| 15:23.22 | zenzelezz | or "Afraid to shoot stranger" |
| 15:23.23 | zenzelezz | +s |
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| 16:07.59 | amro | Shirik: ping |
| 16:08.08 | Shirik | amro: semi-pong |
| 16:08.32 | amro | Shirik: if you still have the java.util.zip sample you mentioned, it would be greatly appreciated :) |
| 16:08.36 | amro | can't find code that works |
| 16:10.13 | WobWork | damn you BigRedKitty |
| 16:10.19 | WobWork | You make me want to play my hunter again |
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| 17:06.44 | ZorbaTHut | just got a /tell out of nowhere, which I will reproduce exactly: |
| 17:06.50 | ZorbaTHut | CAN U BE TNAKER FO RUS FOR DTK? |
| 17:12.07 | Shirik | amro: Sorry, when did I give you that? :p |
| 17:12.13 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:14.09 | Fisker- | hey mr. Shirik |
| 17:14.20 | Fisker- | http://i39.tinypic.com/a5fbpi.jpg <-i won |
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| 17:25.33 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone awake? |
| 17:25.56 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 17:26.25 | AbsolutRayne | Didnt think so |
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| 17:36.21 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8207#comments Sigh...am I wrong in my last comment? |
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| 18:13.15 | amro | Shirik: you didn't, you said you had one though, or something along those lines |
| 18:13.15 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 16, 2009, 10:30PM PST |
| 18:13.15 | Shiibot | We are now offering additional free character moves from select high population realms. To access this feature and find information about new free character moves as they become available, please visit your Account Management page at www.worldofwarcraft.com/account and select the "Free Character Move" link. |
| 18:13.15 | Shiibot | Players on the following PvE, RP, and RPPvP realms have the option of transferring to either of two new realms, Wyrmrest Accord (RPPvE) and Winterhoof (PvE): Aggramar (Alliance Transfers Only) Alleria (Alliance Transfers Only) |
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| 18:46.14 | Anaral | Does anyone know how the authenticator's serial number and the random code it gives links to an account? What is stopping hackers from just running number bots? |
| 18:48.24 | Tekkub | 1,000,000 possible numbers and a login limit to prevent brute-forcing? |
| 18:49.30 | Tekkub | seems to me it'd be hard to run through that many numbers in 30 seconds anyway |
| 18:49.55 | Tekkub | hell, say a minute and a half even, if they allow for the time to skew that much |
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| 18:50.13 | davnel | evening all |
| 18:50.38 | Tekkub | they either log onto the account admin using the token, or they call blizzy and answer other questions about the account |
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| 19:09.36 | Tekkub | *damnit, damnit! |
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| 19:10.44 | Tekkub | pfft, svn |
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| 19:11.49 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:11.53 | nevcairiel | my tsvn works on win7 |
| 19:11.58 | davnel | what version? |
| 19:12.03 | davnel | of tsvn |
| 19:12.14 | nevcairiel | latest, just downloaded it last week |
| 19:12.26 | nevcairiel | 1.5.6 i think |
| 19:12.31 | nevcairiel | x64 |
| 19:14.06 | davnel | brb |
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| 19:19.19 | Davnel | there sorted, think I might of had the x86 version |
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| 19:28.18 | amro | is there a way to remove a buff by name in a macro? |
| 19:29.31 | Syzgyn | ./cancelaura name |
| 19:41.47 | amro | gracias Syzgyn |
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| 19:49.17 | Shirik | Davnel, it does work |
| 19:49.20 | Shirik | I don't know what you're talking about |
| 19:49.29 | Shirik | It's worked forever |
| 19:51.08 | nevcairiel | i'm having some weird issues with win7 though |
| 19:51.18 | nevcairiel | the aero interface breaks down when i alt-tab from wow alot |
| 19:51.26 | Davnel | what I said I had it sorted |
| 19:51.52 | Davnel | TortoiseSVN-1.5.99.15170-dev-x64-svn-1.6.0-dev works |
| 19:52.18 | nevcairiel | and the open/save file dialogs in notepad++ dont open in the place of the current file, instead they open at the previous place .. thats annoying .P |
| 19:52.23 | Davnel | TortoiseSVN-1.5.6.14908-win32-svn-1.5.5 didn't |
| 19:52.49 | nevcairiel | you know that the 1.5.99 is a preview for svn 1.6 and might break your working-copys? :) |
| 19:52.56 | Davnel | yup |
| 19:53.01 | Davnel | not an issue I have backups |
| 19:55.00 | Davnel | convenient side effect of addon studio |
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| 20:00.32 | AbsolutRayne | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8207#comments Anyone else think my last comment was ignorant? |
| 20:00.46 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:03.41 | Syzgyn | Ahahaha |
| 20:03.50 | Syzgyn | A guildie of mine just did the eranikus fight in moonglade |
| 20:05.06 | nevcairiel | someone from my guild did that too |
| 20:05.11 | nevcairiel | killed some poor low levels :P |
| 20:05.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: >.> what realm are you on? I sersiously just got the that emote :P |
| 20:05.27 | Syzgyn | Kel'Thuzad |
| 20:05.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, that's a crazy coincidence |
| 20:05.57 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 20:06.28 | Syzgyn | The shades kill pretty much every lowbie there |
| 20:06.36 | Syzgyn | And had people freaking out in general over it |
| 20:07.52 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
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| 20:13.33 | p3lim | They removed the staff thing for Maraudon portal? |
| 20:14.39 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, i believe so |
| 20:15.10 | nevcairiel | ya there is a fixed portal now |
| 20:15.16 | nevcairiel | went through it earlier today for the elder |
| 20:15.55 | NightHawkTheSane | and the scepter became a mediocre blue staff |
| 20:17.04 | p3lim | Nice |
| 20:17.15 | Lyn | portal now! awesome |
| 20:24.11 | p3lim | nevcairiel: how do you get out of maraudon? :p |
| 20:24.29 | nevcairiel | run out the door |
| 20:24.41 | p3lim | well im down in the waterfall |
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| 20:25.54 | Silversage | Heyo. Anyone here who is (1) awake, and (2) seriously understands WoW's key bindings? |
| 20:27.01 | Gnarfoz | what's there to understand? ;D |
| 20:29.59 | Silversage | If you do SetBinding(";", "FOO") SetBinding(":", "BAR") what should happen when you press ":"? |
| 20:30.33 | Silversage | And why is the order significant? |
| 20:31.20 | Gnarfoz | !api SetBinding |
| 20:31.20 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'SetBinding' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetBinding |
| 20:31.34 | Silversage | Yes. I've nearly memorized that. |
| 20:32.06 | Gnarfoz | well, whatever "FOO" or "BAR" are should happen. |
| 20:32.19 | Silversage | That's why I used the adjective "seriously". I'm looking for someone who understanding the binding code *beyond* the written description. |
| 20:33.08 | Gnarfoz | you're not describing any problem, so it's hard to figure out what you want to know. |
| 20:33.08 | Silversage | Do *you* understand bindings beyond the written description? |
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| 20:33.19 | Silversage | The question was, "Why is the order significant?" |
| 20:33.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i've talked at length with the binding code. We've snuggled on the couch and chatted late into the night. I don't think it'd want me blabbing that to just anyone. |
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| 20:33.31 | Silversage | You can tell it's a question by the presence of the question mark at the end. |
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| 20:33.49 | Shirik | Are you sure about that |
| 20:34.00 | Silversage | Pretty. |
| 20:34.13 | Silversage | Disable my bindings-mucking addons, and been poking directly. |
| 20:34.30 | Silversage | *Disabled |
| 20:35.03 | Silversage | Note that ";" and ":" are on the same physical. I'm beginning to suspect I shouldn't be binding anything to ":", but instead be binding things to "SHIFT-;". |
| 20:35.18 | Gnarfoz | oh, they are? that makes sense, then, I guess |
| 20:35.19 | Silversage | *Note that ";" and ":" are on the same physical *key. |
| 20:35.27 | Gnarfoz | (they aren't on some layouts ^^) |
| 20:35.43 | Silversage | Yes. That's what's making this problem particularly painful. |
| 20:37.07 | Silversage | For standard dvorak and US qwerty -- I think this is true ... -- only key *pairs* are swizzled. If character <x> is SHIFT-<y> in qwerty, then it is also in dvorak. I think. |
| 20:37.40 | Fisker- | Shirik my friend |
| 20:37.41 | p3lim | How do you get out of Maraudon if youve passed the waterfall? |
| 20:37.45 | p3lim | Is there a way out at all? |
| 20:37.49 | NightHawkTheSane | you probably shouldn't bind anything to anything by default, and let the user bind what they want, and the game work it out |
| 20:37.52 | nevcairiel | of course there is |
| 20:38.00 | p3lim | Cant find it atleast |
| 20:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | look harder? |
| 20:38.09 | p3lim | Without using heartstone |
| 20:38.19 | p3lim | Ive circled the instance 4 times now, passed the goblin boss etc |
| 20:38.47 | Gnarfoz | p3lim: there isn't, afaik. |
| 20:38.53 | NightHawkTheSane | there is, actually |
| 20:38.54 | nevcairiel | of course there is |
| 20:39.20 | nevcairiel | from the elder you can run up all those ramps again |
| 20:39.30 | p3lim | To the waterfall? |
| 20:39.34 | nevcairiel | meh its hard to describe :P |
| 20:39.40 | nevcairiel | there is a way around the waterfall |
| 20:39.49 | nevcairiel | just port out <.< |
| 20:39.51 | Silversage | NightHawkTheSane: Within the last month, Apple released on update that interacts poorly with WoW. |
| 20:40.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Silversage: really? that's fascinating |
| 20:40.11 | NightHawkTheSane | wonder how i'm playing so well on my mac. |
| 20:40.17 | Silversage | The net effect is that now WoW respects the macbooks dvorak keyboard setting for chat, but not for key bindings. |
| 20:40.25 | p3lim | heartstone on cooldown etc |
| 20:40.36 | p3lim | And Id like to go to feralas, not dalaran |
| 20:40.37 | p3lim | :p |
| 20:40.40 | Silversage | For people who type dvorak and have their dvorak key bindings nicely set up, this is a royal pain in the butt. |
| 20:40.46 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 20:40.50 | NightHawkTheSane | so use qwerty |
| 20:40.53 | Hirsute | NightHawkTheSane: Possibly because you type qwerty? |
| 20:41.01 | Silversage | Go type with your nose. |
| 20:41.17 | Silversage | I *can't* use qwerty. It would be like telling most people to use dvorak. |
| 20:41.25 | NightHawkTheSane | so learn |
| 20:41.35 | Silversage | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.37 | NightHawkTheSane | can't is a defeatist attitude |
| 20:42.27 | Silversage | So (1) you tell me I shouldn't be setting key bindings, When I explain *why* I'm adjusting key bindings you (2) tell me I should learn qwerty. Gah. |
| 20:42.42 | p3lim | Ow.. the way up is next to the waterfall |
| 20:42.48 | p3lim | Just found it |
| 20:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | well, alternately, i could tell you you're completely fucked until either wow or apple provide an update |
| 20:43.18 | NightHawkTheSane | s/wow/blizzard/ |
| 20:43.30 | p3lim | Lots of worms here |
| 20:43.31 | Silversage | There's a threadful of frustrated mac dvorak users on the mac forum. It seems like I ought to be able to provide a temporary solution to this until Apple and Blizzard get this figured out. |
| 20:44.00 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 20:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | as an addon developer, i'd say "not my problem, l2qwerty, or suck it up and wait for a fix" |
| 20:44.41 | Silversage | Or ... I can find someone who seriously understands key bindings, who can help me think about this more concretely, and produce an addon for a small but interested community. "Can't" is a defeatist attitude, I've heard. |
| 20:44.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i never said can't |
| 20:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i said wont :) |
| 20:45.05 | Silversage | Lol. |
| 20:45.08 | Thunder_Child | "Guest75797" <-- purl in disguise? |
| 20:45.08 | NightHawkTheSane | which is the same as "won't use qwerty" |
| 20:45.09 | Silversage | Read your text. |
| 20:45.18 | Silversage | "can't is a defeatist attitude". |
| 20:45.35 | NightHawkTheSane | and i'm not saying you CAN'T fix it. i'm saying i wouldn't bother |
| 20:45.44 | Shirik | yes, yes it is, Thunder_Child! |
| 20:45.55 | Thunder_Child | your work Shirik? |
| 20:45.55 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 20:45.56 | Guest75797 | ~pong |
| 20:46.02 | Shirik | er |
| 20:46.04 | Shirik | Guest75797 |
| 20:46.07 | Shirik | no Thunder_Child |
| 20:46.16 | Shirik | ~huggle Thunder_Child |
| 20:46.21 | Shirik | ~hug Thunder_Child |
| 20:46.21 | Guest75797 | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Thunder_Child |
| 20:46.45 | NightHawkTheSane | do i want to know why purl is Guest75797 |
| 20:47.40 | Thunder_Child | cuse purl cant auth? |
| 20:48.08 | Cairenn | at least purl is finally back in the room! |
| 20:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i doubt purl can't auth. that's easy enough to do |
| 20:48.17 | NightHawkTheSane | something probably got borked somewhere |
| 20:48.32 | Thunder_Child | well purl seems to have worked in the other channels |
| 20:48.57 | Thunder_Child | besides, now i must use purl to annoy Tekkub |
| 20:50.09 | Syzgyn | ~seen Kamdis |
| 20:50.10 | Guest75797 | kamdis <i=405f8902@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-9d35d01afc3689e8> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 15d 20h 5m 54s ago, saying: 'wow that's horrible'. |
| 20:50.23 | amro | indeed it is horrible |
| 20:50.54 | Tekkub | you would think that TC |
| 20:51.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart Tekkub |
| 20:51.02 | Guest75797 | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at Tekkub |
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| 20:52.02 | nevcairiel | purl was stuck outside the channel probably due to +r or something |
| 20:52.09 | Kalroth | aww |
| 20:52.16 | Kalroth | poor purl |
| 20:52.19 | nevcairiel | luckily, anyone can issue a ~join command for channels its regged with |
| 20:52.24 | nevcairiel | so i found her, and brought her back! |
| 20:55.47 | Kalroth | she doesn't seem like herself though |
| 20:56.03 | nevcairiel | still a bit confused |
| 20:56.10 | nevcairiel | but she is back, thats whats important! |
| 20:56.12 | nevcairiel | ~botsnack |
| 20:56.13 | Guest75797 | aw, gee, nevcairiel |
| 20:56.24 | Kalroth | ~bothug |
| 20:56.26 | Kalroth | :( |
| 20:56.52 | Kalroth | Guest29267: Would you pass a Turing test?! |
| 20:56.57 | Kalroth | oops |
| 20:57.00 | Kalroth | wrong guest |
| 20:57.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:57.11 | Kalroth | Guest75797: Would you pass a Turing test? |
| 20:57.22 | Kalroth | she definitely isn't herself |
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| 21:00.01 | Amarande | Happiness is WoW on a 24" widescreen monitor and Bose speakers |
| 21:01.09 | Kalroth | My neighbours prefers headphones :( |
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| 21:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | s/24/dual 30/ |
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| 21:11.44 | Amarande | hmm, I must be getting this wrong |
| 21:11.48 | Amarande | in ogri'la |
| 21:11.54 | Amarande | when you step onto the apexis relic, insert the shard |
| 21:11.59 | Amarande | there's an arcing beam of light to one of the colors |
| 21:12.09 | Amarande | I go stand there, and next thing a ball of lightning comes down and all the colors go dark, then nothing |
| 21:12.21 | danl | yea, don't move |
| 21:12.33 | danl | it's basically a game of simon |
| 21:12.40 | danl | you suppose to click on the colors |
| 21:12.48 | danl | (if memory serves) |
| 21:13.39 | Amarande | hmm, I think it's time to get ogri'lazy :| |
| 21:13.57 | NightHawkTheSane | or just type it into say |
| 21:13.59 | Amarande | that still work with 3.0.8? |
| 21:14.07 | danl | I am trying to learn lua, and wow addon creating... I thought a created a basic addon that will dump part of my guild roster into a table and make it say it gets saved in the savedvariables. But nothing on it works, not the slash command or anything |
| 21:14.09 | Tekkub | why wouldn't it? |
| 21:14.21 | danl | this is what i have: http://danl.pastebin.com/d7330fa8a |
| 21:15.06 | Amarande | and I thought zul'drak was bad ... heh |
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| 21:15.55 | Silversage | danl: I'm not sure your guild information is available at lua load time. You may need to register for an event call, and do your logic then. |
| 21:16.38 | danl | ok |
| 21:17.10 | danl | i don't even get a message saying that the addon loaded |
| 21:18.06 | danl | I tried to piece together an understanding of how it works from other mods... don't think I did a good job |
| 21:18.07 | danl | lol |
| 21:18.12 | Silversage | I don't expect WoW to call my OnLoad method if I'm not using xml (which I rarely do). I just do on-load setup at the end. |
| 21:18.37 | danl | ok |
| 21:18.40 | Silversage | Heh. I've been dabbling for a few years -- dabbling, mind you -- and I can't remember 90% of this stuff. |
| 21:18.50 | Silversage | Hold on. Let me give you a snippet. |
| 21:19.20 | danl | I appreciate it... (spelling?) |
| 21:19.43 | danl | another question, if I make a change to a addon, do i have to restart wow or just /reloadui |
| 21:20.28 | NightHawkTheSane | if it's just changing an existing file, you can reload your ui, if you add a new file (or i think change the Toc) you have to restart wow |
| 21:20.43 | danl | ok... that's useful to know :-) |
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| 21:21.02 | Thunder_Child | ~bug Tekkub |
| 21:21.10 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 21:21.10 | Guest75797 | You suck at everything in life, Thunder_Child. I hate you because you fail. |
| 21:21.16 | danl | ok, my slash command alteast causes an error now... thanks Silversage |
| 21:22.17 | Silversage | http://danl.pastebin.com/m52d166 |
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| 21:23.10 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:23.12 | Silversage | The "if (CreateFrame)" check is because I run my code from the command line for testing, and this section doesnn't run if I'm in that mode. |
| 21:23.19 | Amarande | my netherdrake's wings keep making me think the monitor is vibrating ... lol |
| 21:23.43 | danl | ok |
| 21:24.25 | Silversage | danl: Ah. If all you're doing is registering a /-command, no need to worry about registering for an event. By the time you can use the command, your guild info will be there. |
| 21:25.27 | Silversage | But move the call to GetNumGuildMembers inside GuildDump_dump(). |
| 21:25.42 | danl | i did |
| 21:25.48 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.flickr.com/photos/fuffer2005/3216972462/sizes/o/ |
| 21:26.17 | danl | hmm my understaning of tables is apparently flawed... brb... need to google some more on tables |
| 21:26.35 | Silversage | Best is the lua5.1 online manual. |
| 21:26.39 | danl | getting table index is nil |
| 21:28.10 | Silversage | I haven't looked at the api for GetGuildRosterInfo, but you probably want for i=1,count... |
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| 21:28.44 | Silversage | Lua wont let you: t[nil] = anything |
| 21:28.59 | Silversage | So if name is ever nil, it will grump. |
| 21:29.33 | danl | ah |
| 21:29.37 | danl | k |
| 21:30.06 | Thunder_Child | did bloodlust get removed? |
| 21:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 21:31.28 | Silversage | danl: When you use a table as an array, lua wants it 1-indexed, not 0-indexed like most languages. WoW usually -- but not always -- follows this convention in its api calls. |
| 21:35.56 | Kirov | Also good to note that the number 0 != false |
| 21:36.13 | Kirov | (and != == ~=) |
| 21:38.53 | danl | what is ~= |
| 21:39.04 | nevcairiel | ~= is != in lua |
| 21:39.05 | Guest75797 | nevcairiel: what are you talking about? |
| 21:39.09 | danl | ah |
| 21:39.58 | Kirov | "not equals" in a number of common languages is "!="" |
| 21:40.09 | Kirov | In lua, it's ~= |
| 21:40.26 | danl | wow... i think it just worked :-) |
| 21:40.33 | Kirov | (which confused the hell out of me because I read it as about equals) |
| 21:40.55 | Silversage | I keep doing instance:method(...) in Java, and instance.method(...) in lua. Having trouble shifting gears between day and night. |
| 21:41.05 | Silversage | danl: Grats! |
| 21:41.18 | danl | almost... |
| 21:41.23 | nevcairiel | Kirov: is there an "about equals" in any common language? :o |
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| 21:41.36 | Kirov | nevcairiel - APL? |
| 21:41.41 | Kirov | (no) |
| 21:42.08 | danl | i primarly code in perl and java ~= to me deals with regex :-P |
| 21:42.45 | Silversage | Kirov: You've programmed in APL? |
| 21:43.01 | Tekkub | blah |
| 21:43.06 | Tekkub | I need something to program |
| 21:43.17 | Tekkub | I feel so useless without things to re-code |
| 21:43.27 | nevcairiel | isnt APL like dead for 20 years now? =P |
| 21:43.33 | Kirov | Tekkub - I had a chat addon I was thinking about |
| 21:43.40 | Silversage | Define "dead"? |
| 21:43.47 | Tekkub | keep thinking |
| 21:44.19 | Kirov | Tekkub - bah, it's an aweomse idea |
| 21:44.35 | Tekkub | I *should* dive in and make a nice windows GUI for git... but every time I look at C++ I just feel... wrong |
| 21:44.43 | Tekkub | and I don't even want to look at C# |
| 21:45.02 | danl | No language will ever be dead... somewhere there will be some company that still uses said language becuase they don't want to switch |
| 21:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i think sanskrit qualifies as dead. maybe mayan too.. |
| 21:45.23 | nevcairiel | sometime it will die |
| 21:45.48 | danl | I'm refering to programming languages |
| 21:46.12 | danl | sanskrit and mayan are only dead in spoken forms, there are those who know how to read and write it |
| 21:46.36 | danl | yes my addon worked! |
| 21:46.40 | NightHawkTheSane | there's little difference between programming languages and written/spoken languages |
| 21:46.43 | Kirov | Or because all of their computers that are used daily use it and it'd cost too much to replace them. |
| 21:46.51 | NightHawkTheSane | they just run on different hardware |
| 21:46.52 | Tekkub | ancient == totally dead... damn you SciFi for cancelling atlantis! |
| 21:47.14 | Tekkub | well, except no one speaks programming languages |
| 21:47.19 | Tekkub | they're 100% written |
| 21:47.26 | Silversage | NightHawkTheSane: Parsers are much easier to write for extant programming languages. |
| 21:47.33 | NightHawkTheSane | there are some languages that are 100% oral, so? |
| 21:47.49 | Tekkub | "foe eye comma vee in ipairs open paren some table close parent do |
| 21:48.08 | Tekkub | huh hu you said oral |
| 21:48.44 | danl | Tekkub... not totally cancelled... they do plan on movies, much like sg1 |
| 21:48.53 | danl | and ancient will be back in stargate universe |
| 21:48.58 | Tekkub | yea that's still cancelled |
| 21:49.03 | danl | as they will be living on an ancient ship |
| 21:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | at least they cancelled it while it was still decent, as opposed to dragging it on for 2 more agonizing years |
| 21:49.20 | Tekkub | yea yea, SG: lost in space/voyager, I know |
| 21:49.31 | danl | :-) |
| 21:49.34 | Tekkub | 2? |
| 21:49.37 | danl | im iffy about the new show |
| 21:49.46 | Tekkub | SG1 lasted 10, Atlantis was only 5 |
| 21:50.07 | danl | i think he was saying sg-1 should have ended on 8 |
| 21:50.07 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yeah, but seasons up to 8 were pretty good |
| 21:50.10 | danl | which i kind of agree |
| 21:50.25 | NightHawkTheSane | 9 and 10 were pretty meh. |
| 21:50.33 | Tekkub | SG1 just never managed to recover from ending the original plot/enemy and trying to make a new one |
| 21:51.40 | Silversage | Tekkub: If you're looking for something to do... |
| 21:51.50 | Silversage | Care to look over this hack before I upload it? |
| 21:51.50 | Tekkub | someone |
| 21:52.04 | Tekkub | do you really want me in your code? |
| 21:52.18 | Silversage | Well. |
| 21:52.24 | Silversage | I have a copy you can't edit. :D |
| 21:52.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet that's a euphamism |
| 21:52.44 | Tekkub | I'm not exactly gentle |
| 21:52.58 | Silversage | Cool. |
| 21:52.59 | NightHawkTheSane | he's not kidding. in any sense |
| 21:53.08 | Thunder_Child | thats not a euphamism, it's flat out balls forward |
| 21:53.09 | Silversage | I'm all for improvement. |
| 21:53.21 | Silversage | I know how to turn down suggestions, as well. |
| 21:53.31 | Tekkub | mmmm... balls |
| 21:54.36 | Silversage | That is to say. I don't object to any suggestions. But I won't take them if I don't agree with them. |
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| 21:57.10 | Silversage | Tekkub: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/106943 |
| 21:57.43 | danl | I don't see why not, but can an addon update a variable in another addon? |
| 21:57.59 | Tekkub | I think you lost me at "local class = " |
| 21:58.54 | Silversage | Hmm? |
| 21:59.11 | Silversage | danl: Yes. If it can get access to it. |
| 22:00.12 | danl | ok |
| 22:00.24 | Tekkub | I dun do OO in WoW really :P |
| 22:00.33 | Tekkub | and don't announce when your addon loads |
| 22:00.42 | danl | Prat 3.0 saves it's altname info in a nested table and i want to drop my data in it |
| 22:00.43 | danl | :-) |
| 22:00.47 | Tekkub | if you *must* do that, do it in debug only |
| 22:01.55 | Arrowmaster | prat 3.0 uses some shitty library for its altname crap |
| 22:02.24 | danl | Arrowmaster... I like prat, but it wouldn't pull altnames from guild notes like i wanted... |
| 22:02.39 | Tekkub | string.sub after string.gmatch seems wasteful, just capture the values you need in the gmatch |
| 22:02.42 | Kirov | So, the chat addon I was thinking of (and haven't bothered doing) would be lilke WIM with out the UI clutter. When you open up the chat edit box what ever your typing to it shows the past conversation in a window above the existing chat frame, including (if you turn it on) a saved history of past chat. |
| 22:02.58 | Silversage | Tekkub: I can see where you're coming from, but too many other addons pollute the space for the space to be useful, and it's helpful to me too see that I didn't just inject a syntax error or something. |
| 22:02.58 | danl | so i just wrote a addon to save guildnotes in right table format and manually edited the savedvariables file... |
| 22:03.26 | Tekkub | and if you're going to have a print function, ALWAYS use the addon name in it so people know what is spamming them |
| 22:03.48 | Silversage | Good idea. |
| 22:04.27 | Tekkub | syntax errors will throw errors on load, use an error manager addon if you must :P |
| 22:04.45 | sylvanaar | danl theres an addon in prats folder that shows you how to make your own altname loader addon |
| 22:04.54 | danl | really? |
| 22:04.56 | danl | lol |
| 22:05.00 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:05.16 | Tekkub | function class:new(self ... this makes no sense... use . and self or : and no self |
| 22:05.51 | danl | hmm |
| 22:05.54 | danl | time to look at that |
| 22:06.12 | Silversage | Good catch! |
| 22:07.40 | Silversage | That was your best yet, imo. |
| 22:08.28 | Tekkub | keyName = function(self, x) return x end .... pointless? |
| 22:08.42 | Silversage | That's still there? |
| 22:08.51 | Silversage | Gah. I removed the calls, and left the method? |
| 22:09.48 | Amarande | wow. I've never realized before just how tiny BEM is |
| 22:10.08 | Tekkub | using find when you remove things is usually a good idea, make sure you catch everything :P |
| 22:10.43 | Silversage | Tekkub: With your suggestions incorporated: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/106945 |
| 22:11.04 | Silversage | Heh. I was. Removed the calls in the code. Removed the calls in my tests. Then forgot to go back. Bleah. |
| 22:11.39 | Silversage | But this is why a 2nd pair of eyes helps. I'm blind to parts of the code by now. |
| 22:13.02 | Tekkub | you had a semicolon somewhere too, that needs to go |
| 22:13.55 | Kirov | lol |
| 22:14.02 | Silversage | Found it. Gone. |
| 22:14.17 | Silversage | Line 29 or thereabouts. |
| 22:17.44 | Silversage | Hmm. Maybe the pattern in line 71 should be "[%s][%s]" rather than "[%s]+". |
| 22:18.28 | Tekkub | (%s)(%s) |
| 22:18.34 | Tekkub | get rid of the string.subs |
| 22:18.56 | Tekkub | er, %S probably, you want not-spaces |
| 22:19.08 | Silversage | Does that add the captures to the iterator returns? |
| 22:19.15 | Tekkub | it should |
| 22:19.16 | Silversage | Right. |
| 22:19.29 | Silversage | [%S] == [^%s]? |
| 22:20.16 | Silversage | Do I still need the []s, then? |
| 22:20.55 | Tekkub | http://gist.github.com/51576 |
| 22:21.53 | Silversage | Yah. My tests are running, too. |
| 22:22.03 | Silversage | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.43 | Silversage | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.42 | Silversage | Tekkub, anything more? Looks like it's working well enough I can stand to play WoW again. I'll probably play on it a couple hours for uploading. |
| 22:29.03 | Tekkub | Id idn't notice anything |
| 22:29.26 | Tekkub | you might want to use pring instead of ChatFrame1:AddMessage, but otherwise |
| 22:29.31 | Tekkub | *print |
| 22:29.47 | Silversage | Does print take r,g,b args? |
| 22:29.48 | Kirov | is print in the default ui? |
| 22:29.52 | Silversage | Yes. |
| 22:30.07 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt take colors |
| 22:30.10 | nevcairiel | the print in the default ui can only print text |
| 22:30.12 | nevcairiel | no formatting |
| 22:30.15 | nevcairiel | no colors |
| 22:30.19 | Arrowmaster | really you should only use print() for debugging |
| 22:30.29 | Silversage | :AddMessage doesn't do formatting either, tho, does it? |
| 22:31.08 | Tekkub | he's running his shit through format anyway, and you can always inline the colors |
| 22:31.34 | Silversage | Here's a question. If someone is using this addon, they *can't* change their key bindings. There's a long story behind why, but that's the upshot. I think a message to that effect is de rigeur, even if it's just on loading. |
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| 22:34.33 | Tekkub | that wasn't a question |
| 22:34.39 | Tekkub | and if you think it's needed, put it in |
| 22:34.55 | Tekkub | it's just the "Oh hi I loaded" message that need to die |
| 22:35.01 | Kirov | So, I'm confused why this addon is needed |
| 22:35.06 | NightHawkTheSane | make it a popup window with a setting so they don't see it every time. |
| 22:35.22 | Tekkub | or just savedvar it after the first announce |
| 22:35.45 | NightHawkTheSane | same difference |
| 22:35.46 | Tekkub | if not db.hasbeenwarned then ... |
| 22:36.29 | Silversage | Kirov, just a sec. |
| 22:37.21 | Silversage | :( http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=13594170073&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
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| 22:37.53 | Silversage | NightHawkTheSane: Good idea, but I hate UI programming too much to bother. :P |
| 22:38.35 | Tekkub | Config panels are easy :P |
| 22:38.43 | Silversage | wowi is going to make me have a picture before I can upload this, aren't they? |
| 22:38.47 | Tekkub | but that's not something that the user should have to go disable |
| 22:38.55 | Silversage | Tekkub: Feel free. :D |
| 22:39.02 | Tekkub | tekKonfig, done |
| 22:39.04 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:39.26 | Tekkub | make widgets, position em, set their values and scripts |
| 22:39.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: yeah, i wouldn't waste an entire config panel on it. But a simple window that shows on login with "okay" and "don't remind me again" buttons |
| 22:39.39 | Silversage | Wait. That's starting to sound like UI programming. |
| 22:40.22 | Tekkub | nah it sounds like building a panel with existing pieces |
| 22:40.36 | Tekkub | making the widgets themselves, that's the pain |
| 22:41.07 | Tekkub | it's like making a building from legos, vs making legos |
| 22:41.31 | Silversage | Yah. It's the making a building from legos part I hate. |
| 22:41.41 | Kirov | use a static popup |
| 22:42.02 | Kirov | The UI code for all of that already exists |
| 22:42.04 | Tekkub | message("OH HAI!") |
| 22:42.29 | Tekkub | popups suck though, I'd do it in chat |
| 22:43.28 | Thunder_Child | i fail so much today |
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| 22:46.36 | Silversage | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.01 | Tekkub | if you have that many addon message on load, you need to get bitchy with people or find better addons |
| 22:48.18 | Silversage | True. But *sigh*. |
| 22:48.26 | Silversage | I've been bitchy enough already this morning. |
| 22:48.45 | Silversage | Hey, thanks for the pair of eyes. At least 3 great suggestions came from that. |
| 22:49.30 | NightHawkTheSane | there's no such thing as too much bitchiness |
| 22:49.43 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 22:50.19 | Pytlask | Anybody have any idea how to beat resto shammy groups as a (Prot )Pally/DK group? |
| 22:50.39 | Silversage | > 1 woman in the house with PMS == too much bitchiness. Rest assured. |
| 22:50.55 | Cairenn | >< |
| 22:51.10 | nevcairiel | now feel the wrath |
| 22:51.32 | Silversage | Gah. Does she have a notification filter set for "PMS" or something? |
| 22:51.46 | Seerah | does she need one? :P |
| 22:51.48 | nevcairiel | She is omni-present |
| 22:51.50 | NightHawkTheSane | she's a women, they know |
| 22:51.57 | NightHawkTheSane | woman* |
| 22:52.09 | Silversage | Wow. Cairenn's a ... damn ... you corrected it too fast. |
| 22:52.12 | NightHawkTheSane | although Cairenn's probably equivalent to like several lesser women. |
| 22:52.26 | Tekkub | one woman? |
| 22:52.27 | Seerah | I don't *think* Cairenn has multiple personalities |
| 22:52.34 | Tekkub | good god I grew up with 2-4 women... |
| 22:52.39 | Seerah | what does that mean exactly, nhts? |
| 22:52.40 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.46 | Seerah | 2-4? |
| 22:52.48 | nevcairiel | so thats why ... |
| 22:52.52 | Seerah | haha |
| 22:52.53 | Thunder_Child | damn Seerah, beat me |
| 22:52.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: only complimentary things, of course |
| 22:52.59 | Tekkub | old sisters that moved out |
| 22:53.02 | Tekkub | *older |
| 22:53.06 | Seerah | TC: it took way too long to type, too :P |
| 22:53.18 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, i know...but i was adding more |
| 22:53.22 | Seerah | :) |
| 22:53.47 | Seerah | and an atomic fireball |
| 22:53.53 | Tekkub | you're fuming, yea we're used to it |
| 22:54.02 | Seerah | is purl back? |
| 22:54.05 | Seerah | ~lart Tekkub |
| 22:54.05 | Guest75797 | smacks Tekkub up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 22:54.09 | Seerah | rofl |
| 22:54.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. :) |
| 22:54.15 | nevcairiel | purl is back, but kinda not herself right now |
| 22:54.21 | NightHawkTheSane | also, thats amusingly appropriate |
| 22:55.02 | Tekkub | and I'm back to no addons to work on, blah |
| 22:55.24 | nevcairiel | level more, write more tg guides? |
| 22:55.24 | Seerah | hrmm... |
| 22:55.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: have yo uupdated panda yet? |
| 22:55.30 | Tekkub | no one to level with till later tonight |
| 22:55.31 | Seerah | don't you have a couple sitting around unfinished? |
| 22:55.41 | Tekkub | and I just finished up the SB guide, screw you |
| 22:55.53 | Tekkub | NightHawkTheSane, updated with what? |
| 22:55.54 | Tekkub | :P |
| 22:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | the five new glyphs in the patch |
| 22:56.01 | Tekkub | I need to figure out the tabs in there |
| 22:56.04 | Tekkub | link? |
| 22:56.04 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.09 | NightHawkTheSane | sec.. |
| 22:56.29 | Tekkub | need more design opinions, http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3222193772_57d55cfb06_o.png |
| 22:57.11 | NightHawkTheSane | minor: 44920, 44922, 44923; major: 44928, 44955 |
| 22:57.11 | nevcairiel | right-hand icon tabs imho |
| 22:58.34 | Seerah | aye |
| 22:58.39 | Seerah | like the gbank |
| 22:58.53 | Tekkub | oh they have an added in 3.0.8 filter on head now, sweets |
| 22:58.55 | Kirov | I'd agree with icons on the side |
| 22:59.17 | Tekkub | or like TradeTabs |
| 22:59.32 | Seerah | looks much cleaner that way, btw, Tek. the menu was getting long |
| 22:59.43 | Tekkub | yea I know |
| 22:59.51 | Tekkub | and I didn't want to fuck with sub-cats like the AH |
| 23:00.10 | Tekkub | that code's just too damn much vs. having a couple main frames to hide/show |
| 23:00.14 | Silversage | "The Safe Way to Say Things" (2nd article). Women know this. Men should memorize it. http://www.pmsiloveyou.com/index.php/PMS/temper/ |
| 23:01.31 | Tekkub | hrm... there's some new gem cuts too |
| 23:01.38 | Amarande | Tekkub: did hit rating/spirit get in? |
| 23:02.11 | nevcairiel | Silversage: funny that chocolate tops 50 bucks :P |
| 23:02.24 | Tekkub | dod/def str/sta str/crit and a crit/spell reflect meta |
| 23:02.32 | Silversage | nevcairiel: Memorize, memorize. |
| 23:02.38 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: the way to a women's hard is through your wallet. ;) |
| 23:02.41 | NightHawkTheSane | heart* |
| 23:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | i cant spell today |
| 23:02.56 | Tekkub | a 50 res to all schools pot also |
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| 23:04.43 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44951 |
| 23:04.43 | Kirov | That "safe way to say things" article I have built in to my personal addon. |
| 23:05.16 | Amarande | Night: how cynical |
| 23:05.21 | Amarande | although, I should expect that of you ... LOL |
| 23:05.41 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't mean it's not true. |
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| 23:12.14 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:12.19 | Amarande | you know you've played too much WoW when ... |
| 23:12.31 | Amarande | you go to ask someone if all the "mats" are available for dinner |
| 23:13.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i really hate out of office auto responders |
| 23:13.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i want to murder whoever thought of them |
| 23:13.46 | Tekkub | there needs to be an "automated reply" flag standard in emails |
| 23:14.06 | Tekkub | let you quickly trash them, and avoid the autoresponder infinate loop |
| 23:14.10 | NightHawkTheSane | even if there was, it just wouldn't get used |
| 23:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | thats like asking for a spam flag |
| 23:14.30 | Gnarfoz | bounces do have stuff like that, though ;) |
| 23:14.40 | Tekkub | nah pitch it os a solution to the infinate responder problem |
| 23:14.51 | Tekkub | then use it to filter :) |
| 23:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | it's just moronic when i get an email, respond 10 minutes later, and get an "out of office" response. |
| 23:16.31 | Tekkub | I hate the "oh we received your email, but a human hasn't seen it yet" ones |
| 23:16.49 | Tekkub | hi, I don't need to know your server works, if it doesn't I'll get a bounceback |
| 23:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | that too |
| 23:19.52 | Gnarfoz | those are for idiots who don't know the Internet |
| 23:20.03 | Gnarfoz | but then, they don't understand those, either! :P |
| 23:20.08 | Tekkub | yea, people that contact support |
| 23:20.13 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 23:20.19 | Gnarfoz | it's really asinine :P |
| 23:20.25 | Amarande | ok, am I missing something or did they remove the ability to set the Blizzard UI scale via menu? |
| 23:20.31 | Gnarfoz | Amarande: it moved |
| 23:20.36 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: where? |
| 23:20.41 | Gnarfoz | to where you set the resolution |
| 23:20.54 | Gnarfoz | actually... it's always been *there* rather than in the interface options |
| 23:21.05 | Tekkub | or the really fun ones... "We've received your application, but it has to be run past <some humans somewhere> before it's approved" |
| 23:21.07 | Gnarfoz | they just recently moved the video & stuff dialog to the new layout |
| 23:21.13 | Tekkub | followed by "You're approved!" |
| 23:21.19 | Tekkub | within like, 2sec |
| 23:21.33 | Amarande | 1920x1200 is awesomeness |
| 23:21.39 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: awesome... that's the stuff where I think to myself "why the fuck would I care, just carry on!" |
| 23:22.40 | Tekkub | and then, as extra bonus, they don't contact you for like a week with the actual info about the account, because it really *did* have to be run past the hoomons |
| 23:23.27 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:23.32 | Amarande | also, I seem to have discovered a glitch |
| 23:23.39 | Tekkub | feature |
| 23:23.44 | Amarande | if I set the UI scale below a certain level |
| 23:23.51 | Amarande | FuBars no longer extend across the entire top of the screen |
| 23:24.06 | Tekkub | is feature, FEATURE! |
| 23:24.14 | End | it's a feature! |
| 23:24.18 | Amarande | is there a maximum size allowed by Lua/XML for a window? |
| 23:24.48 | NightHawkTheSane | neither lua or xml have any implicit knowledge of a "window" so, im going to guess no |
| 23:24.51 | Tekkub | probably, well outside the screen res though |
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| 23:25.18 | Tekkub | like say, maybe the size of an unsigned double? |
| 23:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | your MOMs the size of an unsigned double |
| 23:26.13 | Kalroth | you're a char without a pointer! |
| 23:26.39 | Tekkub | well at least I have fresh hashtables |
| 23:26.56 | Kalroth | mm, hashbrownies |
| 23:28.02 | Tekkub | okey, when I hit skip random more than like 5 times in a row, it's time to find me some new music |
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| 23:30.33 | Amarande | I mean, anyway, is there a limit to how wide of a bar FuBar can do, or is this a bug? |
| 23:30.45 | End | sounds like a feature |
| 23:35.30 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's a feature |
| 23:35.41 | End | no she's a bug |
| 23:37.57 | Silversage | Tekkub: Ever tried Majaz, by Le Trio Joubran? |
| 23:38.17 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmb9caCHGow |
| 23:38.25 | Tekkub | dawhodawha? |
| 23:40.18 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: drag the end of the bar |
| 23:54.58 | Tekkub | huzzah! tabs, new glyphs, and transmutants in Panda |
| 23:55.21 | bleeter | ~fail blizzard |
| 23:55.22 | Guest75797 | blizzard: FAIL! |
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| 23:55.40 | bleeter | I just clicked a link in Launcher.exe and it opened up IE on me |
| 23:55.45 | bleeter | ~failmoar blizzard |
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| 23:58.26 | End | they had that problem with the first launchyer |
| 23:58.29 | End | they had that problem with the first launcher |
| 23:58.47 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be supprised if the launcher used IE to render anyway |
| 23:58.51 | Amarande | and so the WoW UI is updated for widescreen awesome: http://www.lunasanguine.com/images/WoWScrnShot_012409_185641.jpg |
| 23:58.55 | bleeter | they had a siomilar problem with the trial installer last year, half the links would obey the default browser, half forcfed open IE |
| 23:59.39 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: yeah, it kinda scares me that they may be doing that. scares me so much I'm not gunna go look ;) |
