| 00:00.11 | kd3 | and sticking forks in electrical sockets... >.> |
| 00:00.14 | foxlit | meh, ti-89 |
| 00:00.26 | foxlit | You have it easy -- there's an actual C compiler for it |
| 00:00.46 | kd3 | I still learned m68k assembly before tigcc was stable |
| 00:00.49 | Thunder_Child | i remember when the ti-93 and it'd fancy 3d graphing came out |
| 00:00.55 | Thunder_Child | s/'d/'s/ |
| 00:01.09 | foxlit | I had to write a snake game in TI-Basic. qq! |
| 00:01.31 | foxlit | ~4fps of awesome |
| 00:01.42 | Cide | 4 fps is plenty for snake :/ |
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| 00:02.06 | foxlit | Cide: for the first level, sure |
| 00:02.14 | foxlit | The problem is that you can't really speed the snake up afterwards. |
| 00:02.27 | Kirov | My fiancee has a ti-92, but it's batteries all exploded inside it |
| 00:02.35 | kd3 | ick |
| 00:02.39 | Tekkub | I wrote a program that took temp/pH averages with the little lab thing so that I didn't have to do it manually down at the creek |
| 00:03.09 | Tekkub | but the teacher wouldn't get the hardness one, so we still had to do those titrations by hand |
| 00:03.21 | Thrae | Why does this anime's name, "RideBack", make me think I'm delving into Tekkub's territory. |
| 00:03.26 | Tekkub | I think she wouldn't cause she was the chem teacher and liked doing titrations |
| 00:03.43 | Tekkub | ridin' bear back? |
| 00:03.49 | foxlit | everyone likes doing titrations |
| 00:04.07 | Thrae | I read that as "titerations" at first after reading "female chem teacher". |
| 00:04.16 | Tekkub | eh, when you have to do the same ones twice a week all schoolyear, they get old |
| 00:04.42 | foxlit | isn't it all the same principle? |
| 00:04.50 | Thrae | One of the core tennants of science is repetition. |
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| 00:05.05 | Thrae | And one of the core tennants of science is repetition. |
| 00:05.23 | Tekkub | yea that's why programing is so great |
| 00:05.31 | Tekkub | I write a program to do it for me |
| 00:05.53 | Wobin | hm |
| 00:06.09 | Wobin | I say nicks should be autoghosted if they're not on an identified connection |
| 00:06.28 | Wobin | cause having to ghost a nick twice is very irritating |
| 00:13.18 | foxlit | It'd be fun if they added a way to author textures from within WoW |
| 00:13.29 | foxlit | Perhaps drawing some GL primitives |
| 00:14.42 | Thunder_Child | mmm...primitives |
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| 00:19.19 | Thrae | http://www.xkcd.com/528/ <-- hey, at least it's better then Vista. |
| 00:21.19 | AbsolutRayne | Im kiting Vengeful Bambina to Valgarde |
| 00:21.21 | AbsolutRayne | lol |
| 00:22.53 | AbsolutRayne | NOOOOO IT RESET |
| 00:22.55 | AbsolutRayne | ;_; |
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| 00:37.34 | Dashkal | Did anybody else notice a change in Maaven's language suggesting 3.0.8 is nearing completion? |
| 00:37.42 | Dashkal | Or am I just wishful thinking again? |
| 00:37.48 | Duman | hwh |
| 00:37.49 | Duman | heh |
| 00:38.09 | Dashkal | "This issue was not addressed in 3.0.8. " Makes me hope |
| 00:38.21 | Kirov | url? |
| 00:38.27 | Dashkal | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/14287219261-feedback-valorous-plaguheart-shoulderpads.html |
| 00:38.37 | Kirov | btw, the feature lockdown on a patch is usually done far before it's finished. |
| 00:38.41 | Duman | I think he meant someone is trying to report a bug on the PTR, and Maaven is saying that wasn't something that was supposed to be addressed in the patch :) |
| 00:38.42 | Dashkal | It's the second time I've seen that (Quite possibly many more, I don't follow Maaven closely) |
| 00:39.33 | Dashkal | The item in question is a numbers tweak, so it's cheaper than an actual feature. |
| 00:39.46 | Dashkal | Theoretically it can sneak in later in the cycle |
| 00:40.05 | Dashkal | Presumable, once they hit full freeze the PTR is taken down |
| 00:40.14 | Dashkal | s/le/ly |
| 00:40.16 | Duman | usually |
| 00:40.56 | Thrae | Dashkal: QA says things like "This was not addressed" for tracking purposes. That doesn't mean it won't be addressed in a hotfix, but it won't be addressed in 3.0.8 since they're already past 3.0.8 internally. |
| 00:41.23 | Dashkal | *nods* this is what leads me to believe that 3.0.8 is approaching release |
| 00:42.17 | Thrae | Dashkal: Well there's 3.0.8 internal build and 3.0.8 PTS and 3.0.8 Release, they're all different builds and different versioning. |
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| 00:43.00 | Dashkal | that seems awfully simplified. Also moving away from my point |
| 00:43.19 | Thrae | Dashkal: When QA says it wasn't addressed in 3.0.8, they normally mean it wasn't addressed in the build they used for Internal->PTS. But that doesn't mean they can't change something on the PTS build before it turns Release. |
| 00:44.10 | Thrae | The entire reason for the PTS build is to change things to 3.0.8 before Release, a culumative process. |
| 00:44.33 | Thrae | A lot of the changes are small performance tweaks you don't really see, though. |
| 00:44.36 | Dashkal | That's... that's an interpratation entirely opposite to the one I'd take from what he said. Sounded much more to me like "this will not be in 3.0.8, bumping to a later queue" |
| 00:45.09 | Dashkal | stat changes don't appear to be hotfixable (tooltips) |
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| 00:45.42 | Thrae | Well, he literally said "was not addressed". If it won't be addressed, he said "will not be addressed". But he's QA, so he doesn't have the authority to say it won't get changed before Release. |
| 00:46.07 | Thrae | Internally it would be a hotfix, but on PTS it would not be a hotfix. This is because they're two different versions. |
| 00:46.09 | Dashkal | If it was on the table for 3.0.8 it would make more sense for there to be a "We'll investigate. Thanks." |
| 00:46.44 | Dashkal | if "This was not addressed" is equivalent, then he is being confusing. |
| 00:47.12 | Thrae | Dashkal: That's because he's using a regular professional statement, like you generated a ticket internally. |
| 00:47.45 | Thrae | You are right, he is not being clear to a layman. |
| 00:47.47 | Dashkal | "We'll investigate. Thanks." is his form answer for ACKing a report. "This was not addressed for 3.0.8" is a new thing. |
| 00:48.23 | Dashkal | If the two are actually equivilent, he's being misleading, which I doubt |
| 00:48.43 | Thrae | Now I think you're reading too much into it ;) He's just a guy, he can make verbal mistakes. Doing something different sounds like they actually consider it an issue worth immediate investigation. |
| 00:49.44 | Dashkal | I wouldn't have picked up on this except this is not the first occurance of that statement |
| 00:49.49 | Thrae | It seems rather clear-cut to me, and QA loves to give designers clear-cut problems that are just a question of simple math. |
| 00:50.19 | Dashkal | anyway, moving on |
| 00:50.20 | Thrae | Anyway, it's just 10 spellpower. Geez. |
| 00:50.25 | TC-Away | so fail http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=4865 |
| 00:52.20 | Industrial | how does that work |
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| 01:04.19 | foxlit | I'm amazed at how fast the chinese mod devs patch upstream |
| 01:04.34 | foxlit | or, er, down |
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| 01:25.52 | NeoTron | Thrae: people pay hundred, maybe thousand gold, to get 10-15 more spell damage on an enchant :P |
| 01:26.54 | Tewan | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=560 |
| 01:26.58 | kd3 | oh hell, I missed a ptr build |
| 01:27.07 | Tewan | kd3, no wai |
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| 01:27.15 | kd3 | a new blizzard downloader too? |
| 01:27.26 | kd3 | themed ui elements. bah |
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| 01:28.44 | cloudwolf | im getting |
| 01:28.45 | End | maybe I should stop relying on kd3 to see when new builds are! |
| 01:28.46 | cloudwolf | \AddOns\GuildChatAdmin\guildchatadmin.lua line 52: bad argument #2 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil) |
| 01:28.52 | cloudwolf | but only for the first time my addon picks up the chat message |
| 01:29.01 | kd3 | I haven't logged in to wow proper since 25 dec. crap's kinda been getting in the way |
| 01:29.02 | cloudwolf | every other time it doesn't give me the error and my addon still works |
| 01:30.30 | kd3 | sigh. the new downloader's redlining 2 of my 4 cores. why? |
| 01:31.16 | TC-Away | did something similar for me |
| 01:31.29 | Olorin | 1 for downloader 1 for embeded browser? |
| 01:31.53 | kd3 | neither of which should be doing more than idle processing |
| 01:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | whoa, heavily themed |
| 01:34.01 | kd3 | so is the updater |
| 01:34.05 | kd3 | and the patch notes still fail |
| 01:34.09 | kd3 | "Please enable JavaScript" |
| 01:34.33 | cloudwolf | soo.... |
| 01:34.58 | cloudwolf | \AddOns\GuildChatAdmin\guildchatadmin.lua line 52: |
| 01:35.04 | cloudwolf | wtf i dind't press enter on it lol |
| 01:35.14 | Cairenn|afk | http://www.macrumors.com/2009/01/14/steve-jobs-taking-medical-leave-of-absence-until-june/ |
| 01:35.47 | ScytheBlade1 | not much a rumor! |
| 01:36.19 | cloudwolf | \AddOns\GuildChatAdmin\guildchatadmin.lua line 52: bad argument #2 to 'strmatch' (string expected, got nil) |
| 01:36.35 | cloudwolf | if strmatch(arg1,wordbank[y]) then |
| 01:37.09 | Arrowmaster | not much of an error without seeing code |
| 01:37.25 | cloudwolf | sorry about it not being stickies but wordbank is a valid variable |
| 01:37.28 | kd3 | wow, qa fails. "(UNKNOWN: RETAIL_BUILD PTR_CLIENT PUBLIC_BUILD )" |
| 01:37.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Fails harder than that |
| 01:37.43 | Arrowmaster | it means arg1 was nil |
| 01:37.43 | cloudwolf | i have the variable decalared and it is a table |
| 01:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Both the downloader and the patcher "Finished" button |
| 01:37.57 | Arrowmaster | likely |
| 01:37.58 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:38.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Are "Cancel" now |
| 01:38.10 | kd3 | I kinda held off clicking both of them for a little while |
| 01:38.12 | Arrowmaster | oh wait argument #2, yeah that would be wordbank[y] |
| 01:38.12 | kd3 | diffs out in a sec |
| 01:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah same |
| 01:38.18 | cloudwolf | Arrowmaster the wierd thing is my addon works fine |
| 01:38.26 | cloudwolf | but when it runs the first time |
| 01:38.37 | cloudwolf | i get that error then it doesn't give me that error any more |
| 01:38.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I do like the new launcher |
| 01:38.44 | cloudwolf | *first time on logon |
| 01:38.51 | Arrowmaster | pastey your code |
| 01:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | YEA |
| 01:39.16 | ScytheBlade1 | OUT OF GAME VIDEO OPTIONS |
| 01:39.37 | cloudwolf | arrowmaster theres going to be vulgarity in it |
| 01:39.41 | cloudwolf | just a headsup |
| 01:40.12 | cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/106345 |
| 01:42.25 | kd3 | emails out |
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| 01:44.59 | Arrowmaster | cloudwolf: there is no wordbank[11], not sure why #wordbank isnt stoping at 10 |
| 01:45.38 | Arrowmaster | but i would use 'for _,y in ipairs(wordbank) do' instead |
| 01:46.09 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 01:46.11 | Antiarc | Big diff today |
| 01:46.15 | kd3 | and my bitching thread on the PTR forum: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14318776747&sid=1 |
| 01:46.22 | kd3 | as promised in the email |
| 01:46.29 | cloudwolf | ty arrow master |
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| 01:46.59 | Duman | hah |
| 01:47.24 | cloudwolf | arrowmaster mind explaining the difference between for k,y in ipairs(wordbank) do and my for y=1, #wordbank do? |
| 01:47.49 | Arrowmaster | there shouldnt be much of one but ipairs() should never give nil |
| 01:48.00 | Arrowmaster | but then again neither should #wordbank |
| 01:48.04 | Arrowmaster | but it is |
| 01:48.20 | Arrowmaster | you can poke Shirik or batrick about that one |
| 01:48.21 | cloudwolf | ile try again |
| 01:48.32 | cloudwolf | with the change from my misnumbering |
| 01:48.33 | Shirik | huh? |
| 01:48.48 | cloudwolf | its probably saying it went 1-10 then hit 11 and went OH my god there isno 11 your giving me nil |
| 01:49.02 | kd3 | geez, the new launcher is huge |
| 01:49.16 | kd3 | and also fails horribly in wine |
| 01:50.01 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: 'for y=1, #wordbank do' where wordbank is '1-10,12-20' indexed table, gives nil on the first time its run |
| 01:50.34 | Lopeppeppy | kd3, new launcher in PTR? |
| 01:50.44 | kd3 | yes |
| 01:50.50 | cloudwolf | thank you so much arrow master that fixed it |
| 01:50.53 | kd3 | it's themed like the new downloader and patcher |
| 01:50.59 | kd3 | and bigger |
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| 01:51.56 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: like it thinks #wordbank is 20 on first run then 10 on all the following runs |
| 01:51.56 | cloudwolf | kd3 :P you should dboule boot? :D |
| 01:52.08 | kd3 | screw that. I'm not putting windows on this computer |
| 01:52.15 | cloudwolf | XD |
| 01:52.27 | cloudwolf | i myself am too lazy to deal with linux |
| 01:52.43 | cloudwolf | and never going to vista considering windows 7 will be out soon enough |
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| 01:53.07 | cloudwolf | any way arrowmaster fixing the numbering fixed the error |
| 01:53.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah # is weird sometimes |
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| 01:53.49 | Arrowmaster | lua> #{ "one", "two", nil, "four" } |
| 01:53.50 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4 |
| 01:54.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> local t = { "one", "two", nil, "four" }; return #t |
| 01:54.06 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4 |
| 01:54.09 | NeoTron | nothing weird |
| 01:54.12 | Duman | kd3: haha, nice string failure |
| 01:54.24 | NeoTron | an ordered array always contains all items even if it's nil |
| 01:54.30 | kd3 | indeed |
| 01:54.47 | NeoTron | if you set t[4] to nil on the other hand you'd get #t == 2 |
| 01:54.48 | cloudwolf | lol strmatch is what failed |
| 01:55.09 | cloudwolf | actualy nvm |
| 01:55.15 | cloudwolf | it didn't it was human fail but meh |
| 01:55.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> local t = { "one", "two", nil, "four" }; (function() end)(); return #t |
| 01:55.34 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4 |
| 01:55.50 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: he was only getting the error on first run though |
| 01:56.23 | cloudwolf | the error was fixed by the renumbering but no idea why the error only happend on first run O.o maybe it didn't... |
| 01:56.30 | cloudwolf | maybe it happend on every run but im using swatter |
| 01:56.52 | cloudwolf | it could have warned me memrozied warning me on that logon and ignored it |
| 01:58.15 | cloudwolf | thats probably what happend... ive noticed swatter gives a sepcific error message once and if it happens again(the error that is) it doesn't tell me and ignores it |
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| 02:01.13 | Thunder_Child | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=5222 |
| 02:04.40 | cloudwolf | ULTIMATE WOW CRASH |
| 02:04.49 | cloudwolf | XD |
| 02:07.27 | batrick | ipairs runs until it hits nil (doesn't use the object length operator) and # can be any value i such that t[i] is not nil and t[i+1] is nil, and 0 if no such value exists |
| 02:08.23 | Shirik|AFK | bad batrick! |
| 02:08.25 | Shirik|AFK | You were so close |
| 02:08.26 | Shirik|AFK | but wrong |
| 02:08.34 | batrick | huh? |
| 02:08.37 | Shirik|AFK | "0 if no such value exists" |
| 02:08.41 | Shirik|AFK | this is incorrect |
| 02:08.55 | batrick | dont' think so? |
| 02:09.03 | Shirik|AFK | lua> t = {}; t[100] = 1; return #t; |
| 02:09.03 | lua_bot | Shirik|AFK: 0 |
| 02:09.11 | Shirik|AFK | t[100] is not nil, t[101] is nil |
| 02:10.16 | Shirik|AFK | it may (stress may) be 0 if and only if t[1] is nil |
| 02:10.26 | batrick | fine, if t[1] is nil then 0 |
| 02:10.34 | cloudwolf | any way i found out a realy realy bad way to crash yourself >.> |
| 02:10.59 | Arrowmaster | lua> t = {}; t[1] = "one"; t[2] = "two"; t[4] = "four"; print #t |
| 02:10.59 | ZorbaTHut | technically, I think there's still some flaws there - I don't believe # can ever return a negative number |
| 02:10.59 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: '=' expected near '#' |
| 02:11.12 | Arrowmaster | lua> t = {}; t[1] == "one"; t[2] == "two"; t[4] == "four"; print #t |
| 02:11.13 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: '=' expected near '==' |
| 02:11.14 | Shirik|AFK | ZorbaTHut, my statement never said it could |
| 02:11.26 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, no, but batrick's didn't imply that it couldn't. |
| 02:11.36 | Shirik|AFK | It doesn't have to |
| 02:11.39 | Shirik|AFK | it's still accurate |
| 02:11.50 | ZorbaTHut | I never said it wasn't accurate :) |
| 02:11.50 | Shirik|AFK | There is nothing in the Lua documentation that says it can't return a negative number |
| 02:12.04 | Shirik|AFK | Knowing the Lua source, though (and logic), it won't |
| 02:12.33 | Shirik|AFK | From the manual: The length of a table t is defined to be any integer index n such that t[n] is not nil and t[n+1] is nil; moreover, if t[1] is nil, n can be zero. For a regular array, with non-nil values from 1 to a given n, its length is exactly that n, the index of its last value. If the array has "holes" (that is, nil values between other non-nil values), then #t can be any of the indices that directly precedes a nil value (that is, |
| 02:12.51 | cloudwolf | >.> any way with my addon never look for an individual letter in guildchat... because i made an auto reply if it finds specific words and funny thing iused that letter and spammed and had wow lockup and crash |
| 02:13.00 | ZorbaTHut | huh, yup. doesn't precisely state it. |
| 02:13.14 | ZorbaTHut | funny, I'm surprised that isn't defined. I wonder if they just didn't think of it |
| 02:13.40 | Shirik|AFK | they intentionally didn't define it on the positive side, and since there's no real need to define it on the negative side, they didn't |
| 02:13.53 | Arrowmaster | lua> t = {}; t[1] = "one"; t[2] = "two"; t[4] = "four"; return #t |
| 02:13.54 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4 |
| 02:14.04 | batrick | I think the structure being referred to as an "array" leaves little doubt that a negative value is not an acceptable index |
| 02:14.18 | Shirik|AFK | psh |
| 02:14.21 | Shirik|AFK | you can negatively index arrays! |
| 02:14.30 | batrick | in C, not Lua |
| 02:14.31 | Shirik|AFK | (maybe not safely) |
| 02:14.59 | cloudwolf | lua> t={}; t[-1]="one"; t[-2]="two"; return #t |
| 02:14.59 | lua_bot | cloudwolf: 0 |
| 02:15.02 | cloudwolf | O.o |
| 02:15.06 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 02:15.17 | batrick | those are in the hash part, and Lua would not recognize them as in the array |
| 02:15.19 | cloudwolf | well that was a random test that doesn't work XD |
| 02:15.37 | batrick | Lua's arrays have a strictly defined base |
| 02:15.42 | batrick | C doesn't |
| 02:15.54 | cloudwolf | never programmed in C. |
| 02:15.58 | Shirik|AFK | good |
| 02:16.00 | Shirik|AFK | C++ is better |
| 02:16.06 | batrick | you poser shirik |
| 02:16.35 | cloudwolf | or c++ lol i fidled with html for like a month didn't learn much stopped and only other language ive been fiddling with is Lua |
| 02:17.01 | Shirik | HTML is not a programming language :P |
| 02:17.08 | Shirik | it's a markup language |
| 02:17.09 | cloudwolf | lol true |
| 02:17.12 | cloudwolf | i guess |
| 02:17.12 | cloudwolf | :D |
| 02:17.36 | cloudwolf | hyper text m protocall... |
| 02:17.43 | cloudwolf | cant remember m lol |
| 02:18.34 | batrick | shirik gave you a good hint, hyper text markup language :P |
| 02:18.41 | cloudwolf | lol |
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| 02:19.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> t={}; t[-1]="one"; t[-2]="two"; setmetatable(t,{__len=function(self) local i,n = -1,0 while self[i] ~= nil do n = n+1; i=i-1 end return n end }); return #t |
| 02:19.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 02:19.18 | Arrowmaster | i fail |
| 02:19.24 | Shirik | Can't override __len for tables |
| 02:19.29 | Shirik | metamethods are fallbacks, not overrides |
| 02:19.40 | Arrowmaster | lua> debug |
| 02:19.40 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 02:19.45 | Arrowmaster | --> debug |
| 02:19.45 | batbot | Arrowmaster: > table: 0x83b3280 |
| 02:19.49 | Shirik | that's one of the big points for newproxy's existence |
| 02:19.50 | Arrowmaster | hehehe |
| 02:19.52 | Shirik | that and __gc |
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| 02:20.25 | cloudwolf | <= has fallen outa the loop |
| 02:21.15 | cloudwolf | ah the joys of not knowing lua by heart and how it works exactly lol |
| 02:21.46 | Arrowmaster | --> debug.getmetatable({}) |
| 02:21.47 | batbot | Arrowmaster: > nil |
| 02:22.05 | Shirik | you just can't do it Arrowmaster :P |
| 02:22.23 | Shirik | Lua doesn't query __len for tables |
| 02:22.45 | Shirik | You know what I really want? |
| 02:22.47 | Shirik | a __type |
| 02:22.47 | kd3 | hey bibi; can you yell at people for crying about changes on the PTR forum when it hasn't even come back up yet? |
| 02:22.53 | Shirik | so I can really break batbot again |
| 02:23.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> t=newproxy(true); t[-1]="one"; t[-2]="two"; getmetatable(t).__len=function(self) local i,n = -1,0 while self[i] ~= nil do n = n+1; i=i-1 end return n end; return #t |
| 02:23.01 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: attempt to index global 't' (a userdata value) |
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| 02:25.35 | Arrowmaster | lua> t=newproxy(true); getmetatable(t).__len=function(self) local i,n = -1,0 while self[i] ~= nil do n = n+1; i=i-1 end return n end; local realt = {}; getmetatable(t).__index=realt; getmetatable(t).__newindex=realt; t[-1]="one"; t[-2]="two"; return #t |
| 02:25.36 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2 |
| 02:25.41 | Arrowmaster | ha i did it |
| 02:26.08 | Arrowmaster | back to raiding |
| 02:26.55 | Thunder_Child | W T F is there a Nevada City, CA |
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| 02:28.53 | kd3 | does turn evil currently have a cooldown? |
| 02:29.12 | Shirik | --> function foo() end; s = "foo(" .. ("1,"):rep(9999) .. "1)"; assert(loadstring(s))() |
| 02:29.12 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string "function foo() end; s = "foo(" .. ("1,"):re..."]:1: [string "foo(1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1..."]:1: function or expression too complex near '1' |
| 02:29.17 | Shirik | batrick ^ |
| 02:30.18 | batrick | shirik you can't pass arguments like that |
| 02:30.21 | Thunder_Child | yes! i LOVE "scrambled egg of corn", http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=3789 |
| 02:31.03 | Shirik | function foo(...) if select('#', ...) == 10000 then print("Done!"); else return foo(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, ...); end end; foo() |
| 02:31.05 | Shirik | --> function foo(...) if select('#', ...) == 10000 then print("Done!"); else return foo(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, ...); end end; foo() |
| 02:31.05 | batbot | Shirik: Done! |
| 02:31.24 | WobWork | http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/graphics/011109_hacking_your_brain/ |
| 02:31.32 | Shirik | --> function foo(...) if select('#', ...) >= 100000 then print("Done!"); else return foo(1, ...); end end; foo() |
| 02:31.37 | batbot | Shirik: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 02:31.43 | Shirik | --> function foo(...) if select('#', ...) >= 20000 then print("Done!"); else return foo(1, ...); end end; foo() |
| 02:31.46 | batbot | Shirik: Done! |
| 02:31.54 | batrick | !lua function lunpack(t,i,...) if i==0 return ... else return lunpack(t,i-1,t[i],...) end end t = {} for i=1,1e4 do t[i] =i end return select(lunpack(t,#t)) |
| 02:31.55 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "function lunpack(t,i,...) if i==0 return ... else return lunpac..."]:1: 'then' expected near 'return' |
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| 02:32.03 | batrick | !lua function lunpack(t,i,...) if i==0 then return ... else return lunpack(t,i-1,t[i],...) end end t = {} for i=1,1e4 do t[i] =i end return select(lunpack(t,#t)) |
| 02:32.08 | batbot | batrick: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 02:32.13 | Lopeppeppy | So there. |
| 02:32.32 | Shirik | --> function foo(...) if select('#', ...) >= 20000 then return select(10000, ...) else return foo(1, ...); end end; print(foo()) |
| 02:32.35 | batbot | Shirik: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ...(tldr) |
| 02:32.40 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:32.48 | Shirik | select still seems to work, batrick |
| 02:32.56 | batrick | I never said it didn't? |
| 02:33.11 | batrick | I said it owuld not longer work if you restricted the number of arguments you could pass to 1e4 |
| 02:33.16 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:33.19 | batrick | no longer work for all cases* |
| 02:34.37 | batrick | !lua function lunpack(t,i,...) if i==0 then return ... else return lunpack(t,i-1,t[i],...) end end t = {} for i=1,1e4 do t[i] =i end return select("#" , lunpack(t,#t)) |
| 02:34.38 | batbot | batrick: > 10000 |
| 02:34.40 | batrick | there =) |
| 02:35.04 | Shirik | lua> strcat |
| 02:35.04 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 02:35.12 | Shirik | lua> strjoin |
| 02:35.12 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x8084890 |
| 02:35.27 | WobWork | also |
| 02:35.31 | WobWork | wtf Japan? http://www.dannychoo.com/detail/mac/eng/image/12185/Hajirai+Machine+Girl.html |
| 02:36.18 | Shirik | lua> function foo(...) if select('#', ...) >= 20000 then return strjoin(...) else return foo("1", ...) end end print(foo()) |
| 02:36.21 | lua_bot | Shirik: 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111... (result truncated) |
| 02:36.30 | Shirik | well everything seems to work for now ^_^ |
| 02:36.30 | Thunder_Child | WobWork you fail for being surprised at anything that happens in japan |
| 02:36.35 | kd3 | ^ |
| 02:36.36 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, why you show me 11111's so much? |
| 02:36.38 | Shirik | I was hoping to find an exploit on that batrick |
| 02:36.42 | Kirov | machine girl is so rediculous |
| 02:36.51 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Because I think you're #1 |
| 02:36.53 | WobWork | true |
| 02:36.59 | Lopeppeppy | ..... |
| 02:37.01 | WobWork | but the internet never fails to deliver: http://www.cherrykeyboardsrus.co.uk/Klingon+Language-Details.htm |
| 02:37.01 | batrick | don't bother looking for one in the main lua libraries, I scoured them looking for an example : / |
| 02:37.25 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. I think I need hip waders for how deep that bullshit was. I liked it, but I totally call shenanigans. :P |
| 02:37.43 | WobWork | also, It's not that I'm surprised |
| 02:37.48 | WobWork | cause still.. wtf? =P |
| 02:40.07 | Tewan | total win: http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=1413 |
| 02:40.25 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:40.27 | kd3 | yes it is |
| 02:40.50 | Corrodias | fucking awesome. |
| 02:42.57 | batrick | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=4423 |
| 02:43.06 | batrick | I like that one best |
| 02:43.28 | Tewan | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=1734 |
| 02:43.32 | kd3 | fark. win: "A plan is evolving in Britain to honor Darwin with a national holiday. Some think this is a natural selection, but others will think this is an intelligently designed plan to irritate the religious [Cool]" |
| 02:43.34 | Tewan | ^-- messed up |
| 02:44.49 | Lopeppeppy | Nice wording. :) |
| 02:46.34 | Tewan | Hah. http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=5281 |
| 02:50.16 | Shirik | lag is win |
| 02:50.20 | Shirik | we have 19/16 vehicles in Wintergrasp |
| 02:50.38 | kd3 | rofl |
| 02:51.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen (n=Sixen@173-25-20-143.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:54.59 | Lopeppeppy | ... that's some talent. |
| 02:55.41 | AnduinLothar | my axe has a skull face and horns... |
| 02:55.48 | AnduinLothar | it's leet |
| 02:55.53 | Lopeppeppy | ... that also takes talent. :P |
| 02:56.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Hey. Hello, ret pally whose talent points I can study and pester with questions. I'm such a doof. |
| 02:56.29 | kd3 | yay, a pally! |
| 02:56.30 | AnduinLothar | it's pretty surprisingly cool actually. i hadn't really looked at it till after i got it |
| 02:56.36 | kd3 | does turn evil currently have a cooldown? |
| 02:56.55 | Lopeppeppy | I know it invokes the GCD, but I'm not sure about cooldown. Let me go look. |
| 02:57.08 | AnduinLothar | um, let me click the 'enter world' and i'll let u know |
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| 02:57.32 | AnduinLothar | nope no cd |
| 02:57.37 | kd3 | hm |
| 02:57.43 | AnduinLothar | not int he tooltip anyway |
| 02:58.12 | AnduinLothar | i know there's a glyph to make it instant cast |
| 02:58.18 | AnduinLothar | normally 1.5s cast |
| 02:58.47 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: omg overpowered. |
| 02:59.09 | Lopeppeppy | For serious, we can rule in PVP with it! |
| 02:59.10 | Lopeppeppy | ... not. |
| 02:59.33 | kd3 | thanks |
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| 03:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | kd3, confirmed on a undead, no cooldown. I can spam it as fast as the GCD allows. |
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| 03:02.24 | Thunder_Child | wow, http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=5608 |
| 03:02.44 | Sixen | Roflmao |
| 03:04.43 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: Well you can if you're up against a lichbourne'd DK =) |
| 03:04.54 | AnduinLothar | ^^ |
| 03:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure they'll change that 'cause Turn Undead and Exorcism were never meant to be PvP weapons. |
| 03:06.32 | kd3 | like the new glyph does... it's now allegedly instant-cast, but with an 8s cd |
| 03:12.11 | Kirov | Anyone know what the most recent reason for the server lag that's been announced |
| 03:13.04 | Lopeppeppy | The hamsters are tired? I didn't know they were giviing any reasons, tbh. |
| 03:14.00 | AbsolutRayne | -_- |
| 03:14.11 | AbsolutRayne | I honestly am more upset with this expansion than I am happy with it |
| 03:14.12 | kd3 | wintergrasp's having something to do with it |
| 03:14.27 | AbsolutRayne | Ive had more DC issues, more lockups, more crashes, more everything just negative. :/ |
| 03:14.32 | cloudwolf | is there an easy way to down number everything? |
| 03:15.11 | cloudwolf | so i have a a table t[1]= bob t[2]= joe t[3]= billy and i remove entry 2 joe |
| 03:15.29 | cloudwolf | now i would have t[1] = bob t[2] = nil and t[3] = joe |
| 03:15.59 | cloudwolf | i want it to make everything above 2 to go down 1 so i have t[1] = bob [2]= joe |
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| 03:17.41 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:17.44 | Shirik | Shiibot just got terminated |
| 03:17.45 | Shirik | why |
| 03:17.56 | cloudwolf | shirik would you know? |
| 03:17.58 | Sixen | It was Arnold's fault |
| 03:17.59 | kd3 | gratuitous use of kill -9 |
| 03:18.05 | Sixen | HE IZ DA TURMINADUR |
| 03:18.13 | Shirik | my server is having a lot of problems right now |
| 03:18.16 | Shirik | but of all the things |
| 03:18.20 | Shirik | while I'm checking it out I see |
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| 03:22.20 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 03:22.37 | cloudwolf | would this work? for x = 1, 10 do if strmatch(cmd,t[x]) then t[x]= nil z=x for y=z,10 do t[y]=t[y-1] |
| 03:22.41 | cloudwolf | would that work? |
| 03:22.56 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-69-204-134-64.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:23.13 | cloudwolf | im thinking the z=x is pointless lol |
| 03:23.19 | cloudwolf | <.< dunno why i thought that would change a hting |
| 03:24.43 | Shirik | Does anyone know what this might be from Apache logs? |
| 03:24.45 | Shirik | 85.190.0.3 - - [14/Jan/2009:22:22:17 -0500] "CONNECT 213.92.8.7:31204 HTTP/1.0" 302 271 |
| 03:24.50 | Shirik | looks odd |
| 03:24.54 | Shirik | I don't know wtf CONNECT is |
| 03:25.46 | Arrowmaster | its proxy stuff |
| 03:26.08 | cloudwolf | lua> t={};t[1]="bob";t[2]="joe";t[3]="billy";for x=1,#t do if strmatch("joe",t[x]) then t[x]= nil print(t[x]) end end |
| 03:26.09 | lua_bot | cloudwolf: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strmatch' (a nil value) |
| 03:26.21 | cloudwolf | hmm... |
| 03:27.11 | Arrowmaster | lua> t={};t[1]="bob";t[2]="joe";t[3]="billy"; return #t |
| 03:27.12 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 3 |
| 03:27.37 | Arrowmaster | oh strmatch isnt standard lua |
| 03:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: bot |
| 03:29.19 | Cide | lua> string.match |
| 03:29.19 | lua_bot | Cide: function: 0x806dc88 |
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| 03:30.14 | cloudwolf | function savedremove(cmd) |
| 03:30.14 | cloudwolf | for x=1, #badwords do |
| 03:30.15 | cloudwolf | if strmatch(cmd,badwords[x]) then |
| 03:30.15 | cloudwolf | badwords[x]=nil |
| 03:30.18 | cloudwolf | gah wrong copy and paste lol |
| 03:30.38 | cloudwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.03 | cloudwolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.07 | cloudwolf | gah what ever... |
| 03:31.12 | cloudwolf | ile try it in wow and if it messes up oh well |
| 03:31.32 | Kaso | why not define your tables like t={"bob","joe","billy"} ? |
| 03:32.27 | cloudwolf | woo server queue... |
| 03:32.32 | Aiiane | cloudwolf: you started your lines with a space |
| 03:32.37 | Aiiane | (your lua> lines that is) |
| 03:32.44 | cloudwolf | lua> t={};t[1]="bob";t[2]="joe";t[3]="billy";for x=1,#t do if strmatch("joe",t[x]) then t[x]= nil print(t[x]) end end |
| 03:32.44 | lua_bot | cloudwolf: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strmatch' (a nil value) |
| 03:32.51 | Aiiane | (use string.match) |
| 03:32.58 | Aiiane | luabot doesnt have wow's aliases |
| 03:33.01 | cloudwolf | lua> t={};t[1]="bob";t[2]="joe";t[3]="billy";for x=1,#t do if string.match("joe",t[x]) then t[x]= nil print(t[x]) end end |
| 03:33.01 | lua_bot | cloudwolf: nil |
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| 03:33.02 | Kaso | you should prob not set to nil before you return the value too |
| 03:33.09 | Aiiane | that too |
| 03:33.11 | Aiiane | :P |
| 03:33.19 | cloudwolf | kaso... im trying to figure something out so.... |
| 03:33.23 | Kaso | ok |
| 03:33.28 | Tekkub | *cough* t={"bob", "joe", "billy"} |
| 03:33.36 | Kaso | but yeah, you write your tables sillyly ^ |
| 03:33.39 | cloudwolf | *cough* doesn't realy matter*... |
| 03:33.45 | Tekkub | for i,v in ipairs(t) |
| 03:33.50 | cloudwolf | this isn't predefined tables |
| 03:33.57 | cloudwolf | this is supposed to be a tableyou can create ingame |
| 03:34.01 | cloudwolf | and remove entrys from ingame |
| 03:34.10 | Aiiane | out of curiousity |
| 03:34.21 | Aiiane | why are you using strmatch for something that's just a straight comparison? |
| 03:34.21 | cloudwolf | so im trying to make it so i dont get 1= bob 2= nill 3= joe i want it to rest to 1= bob 2= joe |
| 03:34.27 | Aiiane | (or are you wanting to check substrings? |
| 03:34.38 | cloudwolf | good questoin |
| 03:34.46 | cloudwolf | i shoudn't be looking for substrings |
| 03:35.08 | Kaso | you prob want table.remove then |
| 03:35.10 | Arrowmaster | cloudwolf: use table.insert and table.delete |
| 03:35.26 | Arrowmaster | lua> table.remove |
| 03:35.27 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: function: 0x806b400 |
| 03:35.29 | Tekkub | or use a hash table |
| 03:35.30 | Aiiane | lua> t={"bob", "joe", "billy"} i=1 while i < #t do if t[i] == "joe" then table.remove(t, i) else i = i + 1 end end for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.."="..v) end |
| 03:35.31 | lua_bot | Aiiane: 1=bob, 2=billy |
| 03:35.34 | Kaso | table.delete ? which lanugage are you using ;p |
| 03:35.34 | Arrowmaster | lua> table.delete |
| 03:35.35 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 03:35.37 | Tekkub | unless you *need* the order |
| 03:35.39 | Arrowmaster | ok yeah table.remove |
| 03:35.53 | Aiiane | more specifically, cloudwolf, look at the example I linked above |
| 03:36.05 | Aiiane | if you're only doing a single removal, you don't even need the while loop specifically |
| 03:36.34 | cloudwolf | >.> you do know im friggin begginer at this |
| 03:36.47 | Aiiane | which is why I'm giving you an example to work off of |
| 03:36.50 | cloudwolf | so atm im trying to do whats easiest looking to me and not what works best... |
| 03:36.53 | Aiiane | instead of just telling you to go rtfm :P |
| 03:37.14 | Tekkub | easiest... t["bob"] = true .... if t["bob"] then --do shit |
| 03:37.26 | Tekkub | only use array-like if you need the order |
| 03:37.27 | cloudwolf | see aiiane the example i would end up copy and pasting and not learning from it |
| 03:37.35 | Aiiane | table.remove(tblName, index) removes the item at "index" in tblName, and renumbers everything after it so it stays contiguous |
| 03:37.44 | cloudwolf | ok heres my addon it looks for words in guild chat based on a list |
| 03:37.49 | cloudwolf | if it find it it sends out a message |
| 03:37.56 | cloudwolf | im trying to allow players to insert and remove words to the list |
| 03:37.57 | Tekkub | an autogratser |
| 03:38.06 | Aiiane | which is why you want table.insert and table.remove |
| 03:38.22 | Aiiane | because you want the table to stay indexed with numbers and no holes, right? |
| 03:38.24 | cloudwolf | no not an autogratser it was an addon request from someone and i felt like trying to furthermyself in creating it |
| 03:38.27 | Tekkub | as I said, hash table! |
| 03:38.36 | Aiiane | or a hash table, yes |
| 03:38.43 | Tekkub | t[word] = true |
| 03:38.43 | cloudwolf | and i have no idea wtf a hash table is... |
| 03:39.12 | Aiiane | lua> t={} t["bob"] = true t["joe"] = true for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.."="..v) end |
| 03:39.13 | lua_bot | Aiiane: luabot:1: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a boolean value) |
| 03:39.13 | Tekkub | for str in pairs(t) do it string.match(lsg, str) then... |
| 03:39.24 | Arrowmaster | a table is either an array or a hash table |
| 03:39.39 | cloudwolf | array would be numeric correct? |
| 03:39.39 | Tekkub | well, it can act as both |
| 03:39.44 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:39.48 | cloudwolf | #to # |
| 03:39.52 | Aiiane | ...lua doesn't have string coercion for booleans? fail :| |
| 03:40.09 | Tekkub | array-like: ("blah", "blah", 3} |
| 03:40.30 | cloudwolf | well what im doing i understand array tables |
| 03:40.32 | Tekkub | hash-like: {["a"] = "A", ["one"] = 1} |
| 03:40.35 | cloudwolf | thus what im using is array table |
| 03:40.45 | Tekkub | it's simpler with a hash |
| 03:40.56 | Tekkub | only use the array when you need to preserve order |
| 03:41.03 | cloudwolf | ... |
| 03:41.28 | cloudwolf | i woudln't know how to iterate properly through a hashed table to check for what it equals to send out my message |
| 03:41.38 | Tekkub | for str in pairs(t) do ... |
| 03:41.43 | Tekkub | I've said that like 3 times now |
| 03:41.43 | cloudwolf | because i don't fully understand for k,v in pairs(blah) |
| 03:41.43 | Aiiane | for k,v in pairs(tableName) do ... end |
| 03:41.48 | Aiiane | what that does |
| 03:41.52 | Aiiane | is iterates through tableName |
| 03:41.58 | Aiiane | assigning k the value of a key |
| 03:42.03 | Aiiane | and v the corresponding value for that key |
| 03:42.12 | Aiiane | there's nothing more to understand about it, really |
| 03:42.27 | WobWork | I honestly wish to repeat that you need to go read PiL, cloudwolf |
| 03:42.29 | Aiiane | ~pil |
| 03:42.30 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 03:42.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah this is very basic stuff thats in the pil |
| 03:42.49 | cloudwolf | looked at pil before (hasn't read 100% through it) and what has been read only semi understand... |
| 03:43.07 | Aiiane | so instead of shying away from it, play around with it until you *do* understand |
| 03:43.16 | Aiiane | hash-like tables are a very fundamental part of lua |
| 03:43.26 | Tekkub | or find an addon that does what you're after, and rip it apart |
| 03:43.31 | Aiiane | you *will* want to know what they are and how to work with them to do anything beyond hello world |
| 03:43.46 | cloudwolf | and how would i get some one to add to a list using a hash table with out having the hash being an array... |
| 03:43.59 | cloudwolf | they arn't fiddling with the source code. |
| 03:44.07 | Arrowmaster | t[value] = true |
| 03:44.08 | Tekkub | t[blah] = true |
| 03:44.23 | Aiiane | t["joe"] = true |
| 03:44.24 | Aiiane | :P |
| 03:44.29 | Tekkub | t.joe = true |
| 03:44.30 | cloudwolf | .... |
| 03:44.36 | Arrowmaster | just a stupid trick of using the key as the value and just putting a filler in the real value |
| 03:44.38 | Tekkub | t.joe = "a total dick" |
| 03:44.50 | Aiiane | t.tekkub = "better than joe in some respects" |
| 03:45.21 | Tekkub | t.tekkub = t.tekkub:gsub("some", "not many") |
| 03:45.42 | Aiiane | t.tekkub.honesty = "at least mediocre" |
| 03:51.00 | Tekkub | error: attempt to index a string |
| 03:51.00 | cloudwolf | so this would work with table.remove[]? |
| 03:51.00 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:51.00 | Arrowmaster | table.remove is for arrays |
| 03:51.00 | Tekkub | t[blah] = nil |
| 03:51.00 | cloudwolf | ... |
| 03:51.00 | cloudwolf | mk... |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | Ha |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | haha |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 03:51.00 | Tekkub | are we does with Introduction to lua tables yet? |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | I like this error message in my logs |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | [Wed Jan 14 14:26:12 2009] [error] [client 67.210.235.154] File does not exist: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/nonexistenshit |
| 03:51.00 | Aiiane | lol |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | someone appears to have attacked my server :) |
| 03:51.00 | Shirik | lots of fun stuff in my error logs |
| 03:51.01 | WobWork | dear god, it's so hot =( |
| 03:51.01 | cloudwolf | so to add to the hash table i would do function hashadd(cmd) table[cmd]=true |
| 03:51.01 | cloudwolf | end |
| 03:51.01 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: thats normal, try running a webserver on port 80 with a residential isp |
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| 03:51.01 | Arrowmaster | cloudwolf: yes |
| 03:51.01 | cloudwolf | k |
| 03:51.03 | Arrowmaster | the hash table probably is best since then you dont have to do any extra work when adding or deleting |
| 03:52.03 | cloudwolf | see now that i understand how a hash is it makes sense |
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| 04:01.28 | cloudwolf | thank you for the help guys |
| 04:03.40 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Seems to be someone that was looking for eqdkp users |
| 04:03.48 | Shirik | probably googled for the footer or something |
| 04:04.04 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 04:04.15 | Tewan | I need a PHP book so I can slide a book report. |
| 04:04.16 | Tewan | ._. |
| 04:04.21 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 04:04.30 | Shirik | He starts off with an old exploit against eqdkp |
| 04:05.17 | Shirik | I am, however, tempted to put something at nonexistenshit :P |
| 04:05.23 | Tewan | lol |
| 04:05.24 | Tewan | you should |
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| 04:05.37 | Tewan | "You thought you wouldn't find anything, didn't you?!" |
| 04:09.10 | Shirik | Tewan: http://www.heresiarchguild.com/nonexistenshit |
| 04:10.35 | cloudwolf | shirki lol you damn horde you! XD |
| 04:11.13 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:11.28 | cloudwolf | ive found my serveres pvp server horde = ownage at pvp |
| 04:11.39 | batrick | Shirik: check ur error log again |
| 04:11.39 | cloudwolf | but not sure how they are for raids |
| 04:12.04 | Shirik | [Wed Jan 14 23:11:27 2009] [error] [client 68.35.53.13] File does not exist: /var/www/localhost/htdocs/shirikisbad |
| 04:12.05 | Shirik | banning IP |
| 04:12.10 | batrick | QQ |
| 04:12.43 | cloudwolf | lol batrick how are you getting into his website O.o |
| 04:12.57 | Shirik | that's apache |
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| 04:13.07 | Shirik | he just went to some non-existent page |
| 04:13.48 | cloudwolf | so if i went to http://www.heresiarchguild.com/LOL it would give you an error? |
| 04:14.05 | cloudwolf | that is if that isn't already a page? |
| 04:14.11 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:14.21 | Shirik | it's not like it matters to me |
| 04:14.29 | Shirik | I already get spammed on it because I don't have robots.txt or favicon.ico |
| 04:14.41 | Shirik | I only check it when something goes wrong (like today) |
| 04:15.29 | cloudwolf | lol im so tempted to join a random page on your website that doesn't exist |
| 04:16.36 | Tewan | What's a good PHP book? |
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| 04:21.02 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: There will be rolling restarts of all realms to apply hotfixes, starting at approximately 05:00, Paris time (CET). Each realm will receive a 15 minute notice prior to being restarted.. |
| 04:21.02 | Shiibot | Thank you for your patience and understanding. . . 14/01 Free character migration |
| 04:21.02 | Shiibot | Due to population differences between the highest and lowest populated PvP realms, the following Free Character Migration will be available from January 14th to 20th:. . Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Trollbane, Zenedar |
| 04:21.50 | cloudwolf | well have a good night people |
| 04:22.49 | cloudwolf | and shirki |
| 04:23.05 | cloudwolf | log check |
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| 04:24.45 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
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| 04:34.23 | WobWork | It had better rain tonight |
| 04:34.31 | WobWork | 37deg is too hot =( |
| 04:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom is too hot |
| 04:35.03 | WobWork | I know, right? |
| 04:35.04 | Thunder_Child | not really an insult there NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:35.10 | WobWork | some things are just genetic |
| 04:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | does everything have to be an insult, Thunder_Child? |
| 04:35.25 | NightHawkTheSane | can't I be NICE some times? |
| 04:35.32 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane has stopped trying to do insulting Your mom jokes with me, Thunder_Child |
| 04:35.42 | Thunder_Child | yes...but not as if you are *trying* to be iunsulting |
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| 04:53.02 | Thunder_Child | <3 that movie NightHawkTheSane |
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| 05:09.25 | Mike-N-Go | My new addon that I uploaded a few moments ago, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12215-AnnounceTheFollowing.html, does not have the graphic tag 'new' on it. |
| 05:09.45 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, wait, I see it now. |
| 05:10.11 | WobWork | zomg |
| 05:10.13 | Mike-N-Go | Must have been a problem with my browser not caching it. |
| 05:10.13 | WobWork | HAILSTORM! |
| 05:10.16 | WobWork | thank god =P |
| 05:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: who doesn't? :) |
| 05:18.45 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane, i have a friend that thinks it's 'meh' |
| 05:21.34 | Cairenn|afk | Aiiane: Kaelten is a dweeb - what did you want as your host mask? |
| 05:26.42 | Shirik|Ecole | How about |
| 05:26.57 | Thunder_Child | handing out free masks Cairenn|afk? |
| 05:27.13 | Shirik|Ecole | WoWUIDev/TwinSister/Evil/Cairenn |
| 05:27.27 | Cairenn|afk | Aiiane: nm ... request in, but the op is afk so msg left - if you don't get it any time soon, let me know and I'll request again |
| 05:27.35 | Cairenn|afk | Shirik|Ecole: :p |
| 05:27.55 | Shirik|Ecole | Thunder_Child: She always is, you just have to ask, afaik |
| 05:27.57 | Cairenn|afk | Thunder_Child: anyone that wants a cloak has only to ask me and I'll get it for them, that's old news |
| 05:28.15 | Thunder_Child | i know but they ask us to donate if we want a mask |
| 05:28.16 | Shirik|Ecole | I win |
| 05:28.20 | Shirik|Ecole | not true |
| 05:28.24 | Cairenn|afk | it _must_ start [nick]@WoWUIDev/whatever |
| 05:28.27 | Shirik|Ecole | I never donated |
| 05:28.30 | Shirik|Ecole | and yet I have a mask |
| 05:28.33 | Thunder_Child | i said *ask* |
| 05:28.37 | Cairenn|afk | those are unaffiliated cloaks |
| 05:28.41 | Thunder_Child | not demand |
| 05:28.44 | Cairenn|afk | the ones I get are group cloaks |
| 05:28.49 | Shirik|Ecole | they never asked me :/ |
| 05:28.52 | Cairenn|afk | there's no donation necessary for them |
| 05:29.04 | Shirik|Ecole | maybe because conspiracy's also a group cloak |
| 05:29.08 | Thunder_Child | yes Cairenn|afk, but if i ask you i will end up with @WoWUIDev/Dork |
| 05:29.15 | Cairenn|afk | no |
| 05:29.16 | Shirik|Ecole | ooh |
| 05:29.17 | Shirik|Ecole | that's a good one |
| 05:29.22 | Shirik|Ecole | do it |
| 05:29.28 | Thunder_Child | well thats what she gave me on wowi |
| 05:29.34 | Shirik|Ecole | lmao |
| 05:29.57 | Cairenn|afk | heh, you brought that on yourself, and you could have had it changed any time you wanted to :p |
| 05:30.32 | Thunder_Child | i dont remember bringing that upon my self exactly, but yes i could of changed it |
| 05:30.41 | Thunder_Child | it fit so i left it alone |
| 05:39.20 | Arrowmaster | i used to have the standard cloak and never got asked to donate, theres a special group cloak you can get put under if you donate though and a different one if you dont, 'pdpc' and 'unaffiliated' i think |
| 05:45.17 | WobWork | Cairenn|afk: woo can I have a cloak? =) |
| 05:45.47 | Cairenn|afk | I've told you guys for years now that if you want a cloak all you have to do is ask me |
| 05:45.54 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:45.58 | Cairenn|afk | it _must_ start @WoWUIDev |
| 05:46.06 | Cairenn|afk | but you can put whatever you want after that |
| 05:46.08 | Thunder_Child | it's actually i first i have heard of it but w/e |
| 05:46.25 | Cairenn|afk | you've just never paid attention then :p |
| 05:46.31 | WobWork | this is true |
| 05:46.36 | Thunder_Child | hmm..quite possibly tru |
| 05:46.37 | Thunder_Child | e |
| 05:48.33 | WobWork | Wobin@WoWUIDev/d'Wonderdog ? =) |
| 05:48.47 | WobWork | and nix the ' if it's invalid |
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| 05:52.53 | Arrowmaster | start with @WoWUIDev/ and end with /nick |
| 05:53.16 | Arrowmaster | you cant beat mine though |
| 05:53.24 | Thunder_Child | bet we can |
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| 06:10.24 | rapidgame | any tips on creating a window that will display some values to the user while they quest? |
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| 06:17.12 | Thunder_Child | make sure it works properly |
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| 06:18.10 | Thunder_Child | hmm....@WoWUIDev/completlyunhelpfulsarcasticbastard <- better than yours Arrowmaster |
| 06:27.53 | Arrowmaster | doubt youll get that one |
| 06:28.27 | Thunder_Child | i know since the name reflects upon wowuidev i doubt Cairenn|afk would go for it |
| 06:28.58 | Cairenn|afk | you'd be correct |
| 06:36.31 | Thunder_Child | heh, @WoWUIDev/Null |
| 06:38.47 | Thunder_Child | @WoWUIDev/Cairenn/Fan/Club |
| 06:43.16 | Thunder_Child | i hate you 'explorer.exe' stop using resources for reasons i cant fathom |
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| 07:03.07 | Tekkub | crashed nercops have some odd gravity |
| 07:03.08 | Shiibot | New WoW-US Server Alert: January 14, 2009, 11:55PM PST. |
| 07:03.08 | Shiibot | We will be performing rolling restarts on all U.S. realms beginning at 5:00AM PST, January 15. Additionally, we will be performing rolling restarts on all Oceanic realms beginning at 10:00AM PST, January 15. We anticipate that each realm will be down for no more than 15 minutes. The overall process will last approximately 1 hour. |
| 07:03.08 | Shiibot | January 14, 2009, 7:15PM PST. |
| 07:03.19 | Tekkub | hangy stuff is perpendicular with the floor |
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| 07:10.33 | Thunder_Child | nothing like playing a game while waiting to d/l a patch for another game that you actually want to play |
| 07:10.33 | Shiibot | New WoW-EU Server Alert: Due to population differences between the highest and lowest populated PvP realms, the following Free Character Migration will be available from January 14th to 20th:. . Horde only: Magtheridon --> Haomarush, Trollbane, Zenedar |
| 07:10.33 | Shiibot | Alliance only: Aszune, Emerald Dream, Runetotem, Shadowsong, Silvermoon --> Magtheridon. . Burning Legion, Crushridge --> Vek'nilash, Xavius. Sylvanas, Twilight's Hammer --> Bladefist, Karazhan |
| 07:10.33 | Shiibot | Al'Akir, Grim Batol --> Burning Steppes, Haomarush. Kazzak, Stormscale --> Dentarg, Lightning's Blade. Outland, Ravencrest --> Boulderfist, Trollbane. Ragnaros, Stormreaver --> Agamaggan, Daggerspine. |
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| 07:16.29 | Tekkub | levelin spriest, should I take haste gear over spellpower? |
| 07:16.46 | Tekkub | I need a damn stat priority per class/spec list |
| 07:17.17 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i'm an expert, but i'd rate spellpower better than haste |
| 07:20.12 | Hjalte | Yes, spell power is generally better than haste and crit for all caster classes. |
| 07:21.19 | Thunder_Child | what about haste vs. crit? |
| 07:25.06 | Tekkub | http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AbstruseGoose/~3/512600706/102 |
| 07:25.28 | Tekkub | I'd probably take crit before haste, but I don't know anything :) |
| 07:26.41 | Hjalte | I think haste might be a little better than crit usually at 80, but it can be hard to tell. There are some nice numbers here: http://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/wiki/SampleOutput |
| 07:32.23 | Thunder_Child | interesting link Hjalte |
| 07:33.06 | Hjalte | Yeah, I like the website, and the program on it, a lot. |
| 07:34.48 | Tekkub | yea see, I'm still leveling here :P |
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| 07:36.38 | Tekkub | hehe, I never though simple stupidity could be so funny |
| 07:37.02 | Tekkub | we live on a hill, it snowed, the parking spots in front of the building are like pure ice |
| 07:37.15 | Tekkub | there's someone out there trying to back up so they can get out of their spot |
| 07:37.22 | Tekkub | they've been at it 15 minutes now |
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| 07:40.20 | Thunder_Child | Tekkub, video? |
| 07:40.35 | Tekkub | with what? I don't do cameras |
| 07:40.42 | Thunder_Child | boo |
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| 07:51.54 | ZorbaTHut | haha, nice. archavon kill in 5:04 |
| 07:54.14 | Tekkub | oh wows, 5kg is worth $60 these days eh? |
| 07:54.39 | Tekkub | so my toons are worth like, $780 in gold alone |
| 07:55.31 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: how much are you worth in gold alone now then? |
| 07:55.33 | ZorbaTHut | you have a disgusting amount of gold |
| 07:55.39 | ZorbaTHut | and I'm saying that as the resident AH mogul on my server :P |
| 07:55.42 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 07:55.58 | ZorbaTHut | (admittedly that's because I'm almost as good at spending gold as I am at making it) |
| 07:55.58 | Tekkub | yea well, more time spent at the AH than leveling here |
| 07:56.01 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: based on Tekkub's 5k = $60 |
| 07:56.02 | Xinhuan | have 78k gold if that matters |
| 07:56.05 | Tekkub | also, inscription FTFW |
| 07:56.09 | Xinhuan | i earn 1.5k everyday |
| 07:56.11 | Arrowmaster | wow, you spent a lot |
| 07:56.16 | Tekkub | ~1k/day here |
| 07:56.27 | Tekkub | lately been slacking cause I have nothing to spend it on |
| 07:56.36 | Xinhuan | yes, i spent money buying every mount, converted scryer -> aldor, i'm almost exalted with darkmoon faire now |
| 07:56.45 | Xinhuan | and i'm spending more gold on some JC/Enchanting stuff |
| 07:58.34 | Xinhuan | those 18k mounts cost a lot hehe |
| 07:59.42 | Arrowmaster | ive been tempted by that thing but i only have 22k |
| 08:01.14 | Tekkub | I have bears, I'll probably never buy any other mount |
| 08:02.05 | Wobin | unless they make a flying bear |
| 08:04.31 | Tekkub | now that's just absurd |
| 08:04.31 | Tem | I hate the new bears |
| 08:04.39 | Tekkub | I love the bears |
| 08:04.43 | Tem | Amani War Bear was so much better |
| 08:04.51 | Tekkub | nah |
| 08:04.58 | Tekkub | he has feather STUCK IN HIS ASS |
| 08:05.02 | Tekkub | *feathers |
| 08:05.10 | Tekkub | and yes, I have one of those too :P |
| 08:05.24 | Tem | wtf is this |
| 08:05.33 | Tem | failtekkub has a warbear |
| 08:05.36 | Tem | and I don't |
| 08:05.42 | Tem | Q |
| 08:05.42 | Tekkub | muahahaha |
| 08:05.42 | Tem | Q |
| 08:05.47 | Tekkub | you thought I wouldn't? |
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| 08:22.11 | Arrowmaster | he bought one |
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| 08:28.59 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/what_what.jpg |
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