| 00:00.11 | smoke_ | should it be self.offset? |
| 00:00.16 | Iriel | (Line 405-ish) |
| 00:00.19 | Iriel | No, it should be offset |
| 00:00.24 | cbreak | there should be a local defined in the scope of the script handler |
| 00:00.35 | Iriel | ah yes, the decl is wrong |
| 00:00.41 | Iriel | that shoul dbe function(self, offset) |
| 00:01.23 | Iriel | also, it should be using GridLoggedSettings.Frame.FontSize, not self.numRows for the 3rd parameter |
| 00:03.16 | smoke_ | line 104 is still broke too right? |
| 00:03.34 | cbreak | function() self:Scroll() end seems weird |
| 00:03.42 | cbreak | would self then be an upvalue? |
| 00:03.46 | smoke_ | well |
| 00:03.52 | Iriel | No, 104 is right |
| 00:03.59 | smoke_ | originally the author declared local me = self |
| 00:04.04 | smoke_ | then used me:onScroll() |
| 00:04.12 | Iriel | It's using _Update not _OnVerticalScroll |
| 00:04.13 | smoke_ | but idk, someone in #wowace told me it was wrong |
| 00:04.27 | Iriel | cbreak: ah, yeah |
| 00:04.44 | cbreak | I would pass the function directly |
| 00:04.48 | smoke_ | am i passing the wrong "frame" to my onverticalscroll call? |
| 00:04.57 | cbreak | ("Scroll") |
| 00:05.14 | Iriel | That whole piece is just kind of a mess |
| 00:05.31 | smoke_ | heh |
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| 00:05.36 | smoke_ | sorry guys, its this addon i really like |
| 00:05.47 | smoke_ | but the damn window wont scroll idk why, been looking at this forever last night and today |
| 00:05.50 | smoke_ | trying to get it fixed :/ |
| 00:06.16 | Iriel | Try this.. |
| 00:07.15 | Iriel | self.frame.ScrollBar:SetScript("OnVerticalScroll", function(evSelf, offset) FauxScrollFrame_OnVerticalScroll(evSelf, offset, GridLoggedSettings.Frame.FontSize, function() self:Scroll() end) end); |
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| 00:10.09 | smoke_ | hmm |
| 00:10.12 | smoke_ | still doenst work |
| 00:10.59 | cbreak | I use Faux* in one of my addons. I try to not touch that cote |
| 00:11.01 | cbreak | code |
| 00:11.02 | Iriel | The code is extremely complex, so it's entirely possible that we're assuming things from the names that aren't true |
| 00:11.09 | cbreak | it's way too nasty, fragile and undocumented |
| 00:11.17 | Iriel | There's at least two different objects being referred to as 'scroll bars' |
| 00:11.38 | nevcairiel | I think i managed to use it once |
| 00:11.39 | smoke_ | its really wierd |
| 00:11.43 | nevcairiel | but i'm pretty sure i stole the code |
| 00:12.01 | Iriel | The Faux stuff isn't that hard to use, but you do need to understand your code |
| 00:12.15 | Iriel | if you're trying to hack at someone else's without really knowing what they're doing it's going to be incredibly confusing |
| 00:12.44 | Iriel | Ah, I see half your problem here in that function at line 398ish |
| 00:12.53 | smoke_ | yup, thats what im trying to do now, im really confused, i know the update function he made works but i dont know why the onScroll stuff isnt getting called |
| 00:12.56 | Iriel | self.frame.ScrollBar = CreateFrame("ScrollFrame", |
| 00:12.56 | Iriel | "Relog_Table_ScrollBar", self.scrollFrame, "FauxScrollFrameTemplate") |
| 00:13.06 | Iriel | See, calling it 'scroll bar' when it's really a 'Scroll Frame' is stupid |
| 00:13.13 | Iriel | it confuses everyone (like us) |
| 00:14.01 | Iriel | And if you're using a real ScrollFrame I have no idea why you'd be screwing around with the Faux* stuff |
| 00:15.05 | Iriel | (though amusingly FauxScrollFrameTemplate does anyway) |
| 00:15.15 | smoke_ | well, whatever u told me right now on the function is making it pass the scroll button functions now |
| 00:15.18 | smoke_ | im a little closer :/ |
| 00:15.33 | cbreak | I think it does for the scroll bar. |
| 00:15.36 | cbreak | and the events |
| 00:15.36 | Iriel | Try attaching your script handler to the right frame and it may go better |
| 00:16.44 | smoke_ | hmm |
| 00:18.14 | Iriel | Hm, they've changed the templates since I was last in here, let me see if perhaps it doesn't work that way anymore! |
| 00:19.20 | Iriel | Ah, I see, the ScrollBar passes the vertical scroll down to the parent ScrollFrame,s o your handler is in the right place |
| 00:19.34 | Tekkub | gag me with spoon... I hate my mother's fudge |
| 00:19.49 | Tekkub | marshmallow cream, in any amount, does NOT belong in fudge |
| 00:19.50 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm.. fudge |
| 00:19.58 | Iriel | Tekkub: agreed |
| 00:20.08 | Tekkub | the peanutbutter one takes more like mm than pb |
| 00:20.33 | Tekkub | I wish my dad still lived up here so he could make me fudge |
| 00:22.44 | smoke_ | hmm so the onScroll() function has issues now |
| 00:24.09 | cbreak | what's Fudge? |
| 00:24.18 | Tekkub | chocotale candy |
| 00:24.29 | Tekkub | s/tale/late/ |
| 00:25.17 | malikeye | how does one extract quantity from this function? GetGuildBankItemInfo |
| 00:25.27 | nevcairiel | for some reaon, fudge never arrived in europe =P |
| 00:25.51 | cbreak | we have real chocolate... |
| 00:25.53 | smoke_ | whast wrong with self.scrollIndex = Faux_GetOffset(self.frame.ScrollBar) |
| 00:26.36 | malikeye | GetGuildBankItemInfo(1,1) returns the text, which is the first value in the array that the function creates, I guess... I need the second value |
| 00:27.03 | smoke_ | is there even a function Faux_GetOffset? |
| 00:27.57 | foxlit | It's probably FauxScrollBar_GetOffset? |
| 00:28.12 | cbreak | smoke_: http://wowcompares.com/3039183/FrameXML/UIPanelTemplates.lua |
| 00:28.18 | Tekkub | my god why do people use the FSF template |
| 00:28.39 | Tekkub | malikeye, normally people get a link and get the info they need from GetItemInfo |
| 00:28.41 | foxlit | FSF or FSB? |
| 00:28.47 | Tekkub | FS* |
| 00:29.09 | foxlit | Why not? :) |
| 00:29.26 | Tekkub | the whole faux-scroll idea is great, and it works wonderfully... but the templates are just... SPEW |
| 00:29.54 | smoke_ | thanks for ALL your help guys |
| 00:29.56 | smoke_ | i fixed it ! :) |
| 00:30.01 | foxlit | Mm, but compared to actually figuring out how ScrollBar works, stealing someone else's FS* code is easier :) |
| 00:30.16 | Tekkub | the scroll bar is really simple to use |
| 00:30.22 | nevcairiel | just use a real scrollframe, its easier =P |
| 00:30.27 | cbreak | I would expect FSF to use less memory |
| 00:30.29 | Tekkub | set a range on it, and an OnValueChanged handler |
| 00:30.34 | smoke_ | well, i have no idea what this guy was doing |
| 00:30.38 | smoke_ | if you see this addon its really crazy |
| 00:30.39 | cbreak | well, I guess it depends on how frames are rendered |
| 00:30.43 | foxlit | Tekkub: there's all sorts of other crap, unfortunately |
| 00:30.46 | smoke_ | hes using strange libraries |
| 00:30.53 | Tekkub | what other crap? |
| 00:30.55 | smoke_ | called MiTu? |
| 00:31.16 | foxlit | It's Height has to fit in a specific fashion. |
| 00:31.17 | smoke_ | some sort of european library to maybe wrap the code in OO? |
| 00:31.25 | foxlit | Block movements have to make sense |
| 00:31.38 | Tekkub | height is just element layout, it has nothing to do with the funtioning of the bar |
| 00:31.41 | foxlit | Scrollwheel support and so on |
| 00:32.01 | Tekkub | scrollwheel's simple, "block movement" you mean the arrows? |
| 00:32.35 | Tekkub | all that shit just has to set a value on the scrollbar, then the OnValueChanged handler adjusts what's displayed |
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| 00:36.38 | foxlit | Mhm, it's a Slider. |
| 00:37.25 | foxlit | I end up inheriting from UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate; then for some reason working in pixels. |
| 00:37.43 | malikeye | Tekkub, I need the quantity of the stack |
| 00:37.48 | Tekkub | yea that's not faux scrolling, that's real scrolling |
| 00:38.05 | Tekkub | oh I thought you said quality |
| 00:38.19 | Tekkub | fuck if I know, look at the default UI code and see where it gets it |
| 00:38.46 | foxlit | Tekkub: actually, it ends up being coerced into faux scrolling. |
| 00:39.07 | malikeye | well, I essentially have the item info, but I can only get it to display the first entry in the "hash" |
| 00:39.13 | Tekkub | so what you're saying is, you fail at both scrolling styles? |
| 00:39.26 | foxlit | That seems likely :) |
| 00:39.37 | Iriel | There are really 2 reasons to use faux scrolling |
| 00:39.44 | mikma | why are people saying there's a bug in Outbreak atm? |
| 00:39.48 | foxlit | Rather than creating a bajillion frames inside the scrollframe child, the same 16 or so are reused. It's just odd that I've decided to reason in pixels. |
| 00:39.57 | Iriel | First is to save on frame elements, you just have one element for each visible thing |
| 00:40.14 | Tekkub | FS is wonderful for lists |
| 00:40.29 | smoke_ | Iriel, thanks alot for helping man, its working perfect now :)) |
| 00:40.30 | Iriel | Second (theoretically) is that you save the pause in the graphical rendering stream for the bounded rendering of the scrollchild |
| 00:40.34 | Tekkub | real-scroll for any other time, but I've only really had one time I've ever needed it |
| 00:40.57 | Iriel | though the faux template using a real ScrollFrame makes me wonder if it's a bit misguided there 8-) |
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| 00:41.20 | Tekkub | like I said, the templates are SPEW |
| 00:41.30 | foxlit | Iriel: a lot of its methods take references to child dimensions as well |
| 00:41.34 | Tekkub | it's simpler to implement it by hand |
| 00:41.36 | Iriel | I have my own faux scroll library which I use these days. |
| 00:42.33 | dorbak | is it a freely available library? |
| 00:42.50 | Pernicius | i have a table. how can i prevent nil messages if the key is not there? i thought of __index metamethod, but it doesn't work. |
| 00:43.11 | cbreak | just check the result |
| 00:43.15 | foxlit | Tek is probably right, however, you might as well implement the thing with a Slider. I'm not sure what you do with scrollwheel inputs in that case, but it should theoreically work |
| 00:43.22 | cbreak | and check if the key is nil before using it as key |
| 00:43.44 | Tekkub | scrollwheel just grabs the slider value and increments/decrements it |
| 00:43.52 | Pernicius | cbreak: yes, that would be possible. but is it possible doing it with a metamethod? |
| 00:43.52 | foxlit | Tekkub: yeah, but who gets SW input? |
| 00:44.11 | Tekkub | whoever? |
| 00:44.11 | Iriel | dorbak: I dont remember if it's actuallyin any of my public addons |
| 00:44.19 | foxlit | Tekkub: more like "no one". |
| 00:44.41 | Iriel | But to be honest if your scrolling list is simple it's almost entirely unnecessary to use a library |
| 00:44.48 | Tekkub | I don't understand your issue, it's easy to add scrollwheel input to a frame |
| 00:45.12 | Tekkub | Iriel, how many times did I say it's just easier to do by hand? :P |
| 00:45.14 | foxlit | Tekkub: we agree there. I just don't think there's a frame to add it to. |
| 00:45.30 | Tekkub | there isn't if you didn't make one |
| 00:45.34 | foxlit | Adding it to your list frames is silly; adding it to your parent frame will probably be wider than it should be. |
| 00:45.48 | Tekkub | every one of my FSFs has a base parent frame that has the scroll |
| 00:45.56 | Tekkub | usually each row too, if they're buttons |
| 00:46.09 | cbreak | Pernicius: I don't think you can check if the key is nil in a meta method, since the table is first checked before considering the meta. |
| 00:46.22 | Tekkub | "wider than it should be" is, again, a positioning issue not a functionality issue |
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| 00:46.33 | Pernicius | okay, thanks cbreak :) |
| 00:46.34 | foxlit | cbreak: what's the need to check the key against a nil, anyway? |
| 00:46.50 | Tekkub | nil keys throw an error |
| 00:46.51 | cbreak | if a key is nil, you get errors |
| 00:46.59 | foxlit | lua> t ={}; print(t[nil]); |
| 00:46.59 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
| 00:47.08 | Tekkub | fail! |
| 00:47.13 | Tekkub | do that in game |
| 00:47.34 | foxlit | Are you suggesting that they modded the game's Lua stack to explicitly fail on that statement? |
| 00:47.37 | Pernicius | foxlit: table={["a"]=function() end,} table["b"] |
| 00:47.43 | Pernicius | will be a nil error |
| 00:47.50 | cbreak | have you ever tried it foxlit? |
| 00:48.00 | Tekkub | no I'm suggesting that the bot rescues from errors? |
| 00:48.07 | Tekkub | lua> blah |
| 00:48.07 | lua_bot | Tekkub: nil |
| 00:48.09 | cbreak | I encountered a few table index is a nil value |
| 00:48.10 | Pernicius | sure i could do if table["b"] then, but i wondered if there's something nicer |
| 00:48.10 | Tekkub | see? |
| 00:48.11 | foxlit | Tekkub: it's not only the bot. |
| 00:48.16 | Tekkub | lua> blah() |
| 00:48.17 | lua_bot | Tekkub: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'blah' (a nil value) |
| 00:48.22 | Tekkub | ah there we go |
| 00:48.41 | foxlit | "cbreak: have you ever tried it foxlit?" << now I have |
| 00:48.45 | foxlit | It doesn't throw an error. |
| 00:48.51 | cbreak | very weird. |
| 00:48.52 | Tekkub | lua> local x,y = {}, nil; print(x[y]) |
| 00:48.52 | lua_bot | Tekkub: nil |
| 00:49.07 | Tekkub | lua> local x,y = {}, nil; local z = x[y] |
| 00:49.07 | lua_bot | Tekkub: No output |
| 00:50.39 | Tekkub | yes, wow must have a modification... ran that through lua locally and got no error |
| 00:50.52 | foxlit | Tekkub: it works in WoW as well. |
| 00:51.10 | foxlit | There's nothing wrong with attempting to access t[nil]. |
| 00:51.18 | Tekkub | oh oh I remember now! |
| 00:51.34 | Tekkub | lua> x={}; x[nil] = 1 |
| 00:51.34 | lua_bot | Tekkub: luabot:1: table index is nil |
| 00:51.39 | Tekkub | DING! |
| 00:51.45 | foxlit | yeah, assignment fails, grants. :) |
| 00:51.48 | Pernicius | thats what i'm talking about |
| 00:52.01 | Tekkub | I knew there was something that caused that damn error |
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| 01:18.23 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 01:18.26 | Aiiane | ? |
| 01:18.41 | Shirik | I really need to rethink my heuristics |
| 01:18.48 | Shirik | oRA2 is linked to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8797 |
| 01:19.02 | Shirik | because it's similar and has "Ammo" in it (the author) in both the title and author |
| 01:19.31 | Shirik | this is proving to be non-trivial |
| 01:20.22 | Shirik | it's correct like 95% of the time though, I'm impressed for only a few hours' work |
| 01:20.53 | foxlit | 95% of all statistics are correct 95% of the time. |
| 01:21.17 | Shirik | :( |
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| 01:25.03 | haste | Shirik: what are you doing? |
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| 01:26.24 | NightHawkTheSane | probably NSFW, but fucking hilarious: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/02/_melons_vs_melons_who_ya_go |
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| 01:29.30 | NightHawkTheSane | and, for your fox news douchebaggery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=710_ItlHUXI&eurl=http://slog.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/&feature=player_embedded |
| 01:29.54 | Shirik | haste: Trying to figure out what an addon is solely by its TOC data |
| 01:30.03 | Shirik | not as easy as it sounds |
| 01:31.43 | Wobin | oh god, finally |
| 01:31.52 | Wobin | Seal of the Pantheon |
| 01:32.05 | Wobin | Now I'm defense 558 =P |
| 01:32.28 | foxlit | Shirik: hash it, then download every version ever released and hash those |
| 01:33.03 | Shirik | that would work if they didn't change per version |
| 01:33.16 | Shirik | (and if you mean hash every version..... no) |
| 01:33.38 | foxlit | I think you should take a nap :) |
| 01:33.47 | Shirik | sleep is for the weak |
| 01:33.55 | Shirik | and Cairenn|afk because she never sleeps |
| 01:35.45 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/01/02/funny-pictures-boo-dude-srsly/ |
| 01:36.29 | zenzelezz | Shirik: hack the upload script; inject an "X-WoWIID:" entry in the .tocs |
| 01:38.23 | Shirik | Thought about that, but I just don't like that solution |
| 01:38.29 | Shirik | I'd prefer a native solution |
| 01:39.37 | NightHawkTheSane | solutions that don't modify content are generally preferrable >.> |
| 01:39.54 | zenzelezz | of course, I was jesting |
| 01:40.06 | zenzelezz | though it would be a solution, it'd reek of hack |
| 01:41.29 | Shirik | It's slowly improving :) I started off with about 10 false matches, I've corrected about 6 of them so far. My next target is Bongos3, which I have no idea why it's not matching |
| 01:41.37 | Shirik | so close! |
| 01:43.10 | zenzelezz | I've been writing some pretty ugly RSS/XML parser hacks in PHP at work recently because the feed provider sucks :-| |
| 01:46.03 | |pez| | I'm wanting 50 mounts so I can get the albino drake. |
| 01:46.17 | foxlit | Shirik: you could, of course, cheat and abuse google |
| 01:46.31 | zenzelezz | I don't get why people want the albino drake... it looks so washed out :-o |
| 01:47.25 | |pez| | I quite like it |
| 01:48.38 | |pez| | Ofcourse, I'd want the black drake too.. but 10 man Obsidian Sanctuary is a bit too much for me I think XD |
| 01:49.48 | foxlit | meep? |
| 01:50.13 | |pez| | meep? |
| 01:50.57 | |pez| | I'm not lvl 80 yet! ^^ |
| 01:51.04 | foxlit | aha. |
| 01:51.21 | zenzelezz | |pez|: Sartharion 10-man isn't hard... but you have to do him with the three drakes alive to get the mount to drop, and then fend off the nine others who also want it |
| 01:51.38 | |pez| | zenzelezz: I know ;P |
| 01:51.59 | |pez| | I don't even have epic flying yet, which probably makes me horrible if I need on it XD |
| 01:52.21 | zenzelezz | been a while since we tried 10+3 thanks to the holidays... got second drake to ~13% on the best go |
| 01:56.14 | |pez| | zenzelezz: I btw named my rhino Obstacle. |
| 01:56.21 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 01:56.26 | |pez| | and it's being exactly that. -__-' |
| 01:56.35 | zenzelezz | what sort of rhino did you pick, where from? |
| 01:56.50 | |pez| | Sholazar |
| 01:56.54 | |pez| | a grey one? |
| 01:57.01 | zenzelezz | neat |
| 01:57.16 | |pez| | He's being very much in the way most of the time. |
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| 02:05.14 | Sixen1 | Hm? |
| 02:05.23 | Sixen1 | I am #1, but my name doesn't need to tell me. |
| 02:07.26 | Elessdy | aw, there i go |
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| 02:12.35 | |pez| | My rhino now looks brown.. 0.o |
| 02:13.29 | sacarasc | it is brown |
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| 02:14.07 | Corrodias | mind:Blow() |
| 02:14.40 | |pez| | sacarasc: The one I cought, was very grey. |
| 02:14.59 | cbreak | error: attempt to index global 'mind' (a nil value) |
| 02:15.34 | sacarasc | no it wasn't, you're just remembering wrong |
| 02:16.21 | |pez| | -__-' |
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| 02:17.45 | End | so |
| 02:17.58 | End | I figured out why my warlock has pickpocked 116 things |
| 02:18.06 | End | mining corpses counts as pickpocketing |
| 02:18.16 | End | Iriel: ^ |
| 02:18.32 | End | herbalism and engineering probably does it too |
| 02:21.34 | Shirik | Bah |
| 02:21.39 | Shirik | found out why Bongos3 isn't being detected |
| 02:21.48 | Shirik | Bongos3 is in the outdated category and isn't supposed to be detected |
| 02:22.02 | End | haha |
| 02:22.06 | End | a stiff drink? |
| 02:22.13 | Shirik | haven't decided |
| 02:22.24 | Shirik | I think that's not a bad idea |
| 02:22.49 | NightHawkTheSane | a stiff drink is never a bad idea |
| 02:23.18 | Corrodias | unless perhaps you're in the middle of a discussion with the police about why they stopped your car |
| 02:23.41 | Corrodias | i've heard they don't appreciate the pause in conversation |
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| 02:27.31 | cbreak | interesting: http://pastie.org/349916 |
| 02:28.29 | cbreak | according to someone on the internet, that's part of the sources of the zune. |
| 02:29.21 | Corrodias | that device that freezes if its calendar fails? |
| 02:29.33 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 02:29.51 | cbreak | yes |
| 02:30.11 | cbreak | the bug is in ConvertDays. |
| 02:30.21 | Corrodias | if that code is a joke, it's too long; didn't read |
| 02:30.34 | cbreak | I have no idea. :) |
| 02:30.59 | Corrodias | my cat's favorite new method of getting up into my lap is leaping onto the back of my chair and then climbing down my shoulder |
| 02:31.00 | cbreak | I think it's not funny enough for a joke though |
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| 02:39.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i need an article of clothing that starts with the letter D |
| 02:40.01 | cbreak | Dress? |
| 02:40.08 | NightHawkTheSane | thank you. |
| 02:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- brain freezed |
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| 02:41.01 | cbreak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangui (even available in WoW :) |
| 02:43.01 | |pez| | Nightseye is not used much anymore, is it? |
| 02:43.16 | |pez| | (and Noble Topaz, and the gems of same level.. |
| 02:43.38 | cbreak | level 70 epic gems are worse than green level up gems fron Northrend :/ |
| 02:43.50 | Tuller | lua>math.huge < math.huge |
| 02:43.50 | lua_bot | Tuller: false |
| 02:43.54 | cbreak | and the blue ones are even worse. |
| 02:43.57 | |pez| | Right... |
| 02:43.57 | zenzelezz | if you're lucky you might sell them to leveling jewelcrafteres |
| 02:43.59 | zenzelezz | -e |
| 02:44.07 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 02:44.15 | |pez| | Soo, when I've got a skilllevel of 400, they're useless to me? |
| 02:44.23 | |pez| | ( in JC ) |
| 02:44.34 | NightHawkTheSane | pretty much |
| 02:44.59 | |pez| | I'll attempt to AH all the things I've collected before WotLK then XD |
| 02:49.23 | Shirik | pop quiz for anyone good with regexes |
| 02:49.30 | Shirik | is this the correct way for an "optional space"? |
| 02:49.32 | Shirik | "Ace(?: )?[0-9]*" |
| 02:50.55 | Corrodias | "In Hong Kong, in a culture that values conformity rather than uniqueness..." |
| 02:51.32 | Corrodias | wouldn't most of the WoW charm be infeasible there? most of what motivates players, as far as i can tell, is the desire to get things other people don't have |
| 02:51.41 | Corrodias | to stand out |
| 02:52.25 | Corrodias | let me rephrase that. it's a significant motivator for a variety of activities. |
| 02:53.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: I -think- that says the string "?: " is optional, im not sure how the parens and ? interact, though.. |
| 02:53.34 | Shirik | I believe (?:something) is a non-capturing "something" right? |
| 02:53.42 | Shirik | i.e., (something) but without the capture |
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| 02:53.52 | [dRaCo] | "Ace%s?%d+" |
| 02:53.53 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, ?: is non-capturing? i wasnt aware of that |
| 02:54.13 | Shirik | [dRaCo], as I have told many people before, Lua patterns are not regexes, so when I say I'm referring to regexes, that is what I mean |
| 02:54.37 | NightHawkTheSane | if that's the case, then yeah what you did is right. |
| 02:54.42 | [dRaCo] | according to pil, lua can do that |
| 02:54.56 | Shirik | Except I'm not talking about Lua |
| 02:54.57 | NightHawkTheSane | But, that ONLY catches spaces, not tabs |
| 02:54.59 | [dRaCo] | and I'm well aware that lua's implementation differs, thanks. |
| 02:55.16 | NightHawkTheSane | (which you're probably aware of anyway) |
| 02:55.29 | Shirik | Yeah, I don't expect people to be putting tabs in addon names (I don't even think they can) |
| 02:55.37 | Shirik | (And if they did, it deserves to break for them imo :P) |
| 02:55.43 | NightHawkTheSane | agreed :) |
| 02:55.52 | [dRaCo] | so you're talking posix? |
| 02:55.55 | Shirik | Yes |
| 02:56.02 | Shirik | well, PCRE |
| 02:56.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i asumed pcre/posix when he said "regex" :P |
| 02:57.41 | Shirik | I'm adding forbidden patterns to my heuristics. These are tokens in addon names to ignore when trying to match the name. So far I have "wotlk" and "ace2" |
| 02:57.42 | Shirik | any other ideas? |
| 02:57.50 | [dRaCo] | then, if ?: is non-capturing, that's fine. |
| 02:58.02 | Tuller | out of curiosity, can one negate aura filters? |
| 02:58.38 | [dRaCo] | I wonder why you don't use "Ace[ ]?[0-9]*", though |
| 02:58.51 | Shirik | because I hadn't considered that |
| 02:58.59 | Shirik | I also wonder if "Ace ?[0-9]*" is valid |
| 02:59.23 | Shirik | Tuller is an example of a good author |
| 02:59.30 | Shirik | His addons have given me no problems in detecting what they are |
| 02:59.33 | Shirik | LD |
| 02:59.35 | Shirik | :D |
| 02:59.55 | [dRaCo] | it should |
| 02:59.57 | Tuller | my addons have a learning disability? :P |
| 03:00.32 | [dRaCo] | wikipedia has [:space:] for all space chars in Posix |
| 03:00.50 | [dRaCo] | or \s, if it's perl you're using |
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| 03:01.17 | Shirik | fuck perl |
| 03:01.25 | Shirik | :P |
| 03:01.26 | Tuller | -ACE2!!!!- |
| 03:01.51 | Shirik | I hope that is used infrequently enough that it should serve to complement the algorithm, not hinder it, if it's used at all >.> |
| 03:06.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yes " ?" is valid for what you want |
| 03:06.51 | Iriel | End: Hm, i'm neither a miner nor a herbalist, though I am a skinner, but the count is far too low for that |
| 03:07.11 | Torhal | Shirik: Detecting what they are? |
| 03:07.42 | Shirik | i.e., looking at what addons are installed on your drive, and correlating them to an ID on wowinterface |
| 03:07.56 | Torhal | Aah |
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| 03:09.09 | Tuller | have you already delt with color coded things? :P |
| 03:09.11 | End | Iriel: I dunno |
| 03:09.20 | End | I wrote a little script to tell me when the value changes though |
| 03:09.33 | End | it finally triggered :P |
| 03:09.45 | Iriel | I wonder if it's the northrend extra-frostweave thing for tailors |
| 03:10.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think so. My mage (tailor) has nothing for that statistic.. |
| 03:10.13 | Iriel | Who knows how they implemented that, but it occurs at the same point in the process |
| 03:10.55 | End | yeah, possible |
| 03:11.25 | Shirik | Tuller: Yeah, I foundd that way early, it pissed me off |
| 03:11.33 | Shirik | it also gave rise to a very amusing bug |
| 03:12.02 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/09565d9b9b8be1595eb0d7adbbd9d171.jpg |
| 03:13.46 | End | actually, yeah, there's gotta be another bug there |
| 03:13.51 | End | my hunter has it too |
| 03:14.10 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 03:14.11 | End | not a warlock or miner/herbalist/etc |
| 03:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | my shaman has 5255 items pickpocketed |
| 03:14.23 | End | haha |
| 03:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | skinner/herbalist... |
| 03:14.46 | NightHawkTheSane | er |
| 03:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | skinner/lw |
| 03:14.54 | End | hm |
| 03:14.58 | End | yeah, that's same as my hunter |
| 03:15.00 | NightHawkTheSane | haven't been herb on her since pre-wotlk |
| 03:17.52 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:18.01 | NightHawkTheSane | apprently using critter bites on critters counts as YOU eating it.. |
| 03:18.20 | End | haha |
| 03:18.27 | NightHawkTheSane | "Food eaten most: 81 (Critter Bites)" |
| 03:18.40 | End | lol |
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| 03:37.11 | Iriel | Y'know the number is high enough it might be skinning afterall |
| 03:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. it did just increment when i skinned something |
| 03:44.10 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/01/02/sirota_fdr_depression/ |
| 03:48.06 | Corrodias | conservatives think liberals are evil and insane, while liberals think conservatives are evil and insane |
| 03:49.17 | Corrodias | although at least this one seems to have some facts, regardless of source |
| 03:49.25 | Codayus | NightHawkTheSane: My, that's a *terrible* article. |
| 03:49.38 | Corrodias | the usual conservative-sided articles linked by my friends just call the other side names and pout |
| 03:49.52 | mikma | where is the pickpocket stuff? |
| 03:50.01 | mikma | statistics -> .. ? |
| 03:50.04 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: statistics->character->wealth |
| 03:51.47 | mikma | hows the "largest hit dealt" on you guys? i have 244445 =D |
| 03:52.03 | Corrodias | if i wanted to send my friends into a frothing rage, i could link them to this article |
| 03:52.08 | Corrodias | in fact, i think i will later, when they're online |
| 03:52.25 | Corrodias | we're not -too- close |
| 03:52.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: i suggest you do, if only for shits and giggles :p |
| 03:52.41 | NightHawkTheSane | also, this is taking some interesting turns.. http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/cornyn-promises-filibuster-on-franken-seating-2009-01-02.html |
| 03:52.43 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: funny thing. i dont have wealth |
| 03:52.49 | Corrodias | i'll have to close my IM program immediately after, because they'll just whine at me |
| 03:52.56 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: o_0 |
| 03:53.46 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-statistics.xml?r=Emerald+Dream&n=Oe |
| 03:56.26 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: hm, check in-game. looks like they removed the wealth info from the armory |
| 03:57.09 | Shadowed | they did that a while ago |
| 03:57.16 | Shadowed | within a week of them showing achievements it got removed |
| 03:57.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont check the armory often, so *shrug* |
| 04:13.12 | mikma | humm |
| 04:13.31 | mikma | what was the site again that shows the dps of people on bossfights |
| 04:13.54 | mikma | someone here linked it for me coule of days ago |
| 04:14.06 | Zyndrome | wws? |
| 04:14.11 | Zyndrome | wowwebstats |
| 04:14.44 | mikma | no, not that one |
| 04:14.54 | mikma | we had some discussions about dk specs |
| 04:16.02 | ScytheBlade1 | wwscoreboard.com |
| 04:16.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Might be wwsscoreboard.com |
| 04:16.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Or something similar |
| 04:16.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wwsscoreboard.com/wwsview.php |
| 04:19.07 | mikma | i cant remember with who i was "arguing" then |
| 04:21.38 | Kaelten | ok that was funny as all hell |
| 04:21.50 | Kaelten | tom cruise's part in tropic thunder was something else |
| 04:21.59 | mikma | kaelten: yeah =D |
| 04:22.04 | mikma | was the dance funny? |
| 04:22.08 | Kaelten | I had no clue he was even in the damn movie |
| 04:22.13 | Kaelten | mikma: it was something else, lol |
| 04:22.20 | mikma | tom said it himself that he wants to do the dance |
| 04:23.05 | mikma | it was quite awesome how people realized it was him at the end credits |
| 04:23.19 | Kaelten | I reconized his voice enough to want to know who the hell he was |
| 04:23.22 | mikma | my wife realized when we had watched 3/4 of the movie |
| 04:23.42 | Kaelten | ya, it was his voice more than his look that I recognized |
| 04:23.50 | Tain | I really liked Tropic Thunder but Tom Cruise kicked it so beyond funny I couldn't belive it. |
| 04:24.13 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:24.21 | mikma | combination of acters playing greatly different characters..... |
| 04:24.36 | End | I realized he was in the movie when I saw the credits >_> |
| 04:24.37 | mikma | matthew playing a wuss pr-man |
| 04:24.37 | Kaelten | indeed |
| 04:24.49 | mikma | downey playing ..... whaaaaaaat |
| 04:24.59 | Tain | Well, Tom Cruise and the line, "I'm just a dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude." |
| 04:25.09 | Kaelten | ya I have more respect for downey as an actor now, lol |
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| 04:25.41 | Kaelten | jack black didn't suprise me very much, neither did stiller |
| 04:27.17 | mikma | kaelten: is the dvd out? |
| 04:27.29 | Kaelten | I'd assume so I just rented it on itunes |
| 04:27.54 | mikma | hmm, that means there will be a xvid soon |
| 04:28.17 | Kaelten | anyho, back to this deathnight, |
| 04:31.24 | mikma | ~logs |
| 04:31.25 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 04:35.27 | mikma | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/rank/clazz/dps/dkt/6/0 |
| 04:35.31 | mikma | logs rule. |
| 04:37.18 | Wobin | hehe |
| 04:37.23 | Wobin | looks like unholy is the way to go for dps |
| 04:37.36 | mikma | no actually, hybrid builds |
| 04:38.22 | Wobin | well, the 6k dps one I looked at had UB |
| 04:38.39 | mikma | wobin: http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/detail/29727388#damageout |
| 04:39.05 | mikma | the top builds seem to be dw hybrids |
| 04:41.44 | mikma | o, bloodbuild and dps in raids |
| 04:41.48 | mikma | DRW sucks ass! |
| 04:42.00 | mikma | god damnit it dies almost right after summoning |
| 04:42.39 | Zyndrome | oh hi gargoyle and AoE fights |
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| 04:42.56 | Zyndrome | "gargoyle! I chose yoooouuu - BLARGH - shit, its dead" |
| 04:43.12 | mikma | cargoyle is good if you are unholy |
| 04:43.15 | mikma | but really |
| 04:43.47 | mikma | 2sec after summon and i saw -[Dancing Rune Weapon] in MSBT |
| 04:44.14 | mikma | perfectly wasted 50 runic power ever. in every bossfight |
| 04:45.50 | mikma | we had unholy, dw hybrid and blood -dk in naxx run =D |
| 04:45.59 | Wobin | Doesn't casting AotD mean mulitple DRWs? |
| 04:46.09 | mikma | was quite cool to get all the good buffs |
| 04:46.19 | Zyndrome | AotD is cannonfodder |
| 04:46.26 | Wobin | yes |
| 04:46.36 | Wobin | but doesn't it give you multiple DRW? |
| 04:46.50 | End | why would it? |
| 04:46.56 | Wobin | I don't know |
| 04:46.56 | End | isn't it just ghouls? |
| 04:47.03 | mikma | wobin: raise ghoul + drw |
| 04:47.08 | Wobin | I vaugely recall there was something about multiple DRW |
| 04:47.33 | mikma | raise ghoul -> pop drw = drw has ghoul too |
| 04:47.42 | Wobin | ghoul has DRW? |
| 04:47.48 | mikma | or the other way |
| 04:47.52 | Wobin | yeah |
| 04:48.02 | Wobin | that's why AotD results in every ghoul getting a DRW =) |
| 04:48.13 | End | ah |
| 04:48.25 | mikma | well if i spec in blood again, i'll test |
| 04:48.50 | mikma | but afaik, its only ghoul. |
| 04:48.52 | Corrodias | you'll take... a blood test? nudge nudge |
| 04:49.04 | Wobin | mikma: not unless they fixed the bug |
| 04:49.10 | Wobin | someone here tested it and proved it |
| 04:49.20 | mikma | ya. |
| 04:49.22 | Wobin | Never specced blood so I wouldn't know |
| 04:49.24 | Zyndrome | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ggLGj37qI .... oh what? |
| 04:49.31 | mikma | blood wasnt that great |
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| 05:01.42 | Tekkub | I find it funny how I always run to the same banker or auctioneer in town |
| 05:02.01 | Tekkub | and it's almost always the one on the left, except in IF where I go to the ones on the right |
| 05:03.08 | End | I do that too |
| 05:03.34 | End | right banker in org, left banker in dalaran, left auctioneer in org |
| 05:04.22 | Tekkub | it's almost always the beardiest male for me, cept IF where the bankers is the female |
| 05:04.33 | Tekkub | "Soleil" damn you cirque! |
| 05:05.09 | Wobin | Zyndrome: that was cool |
| 05:05.38 | Wobin | Zyndrome: I would have figured that the spellstolen bone shield would have charges on it, so she'd have to steal every 4 hits or so? |
| 05:05.50 | Zyndrome | I have no clue :p |
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| 05:18.16 | Wobin | I -am- a special unique snowflake |
| 05:18.42 | nobin | you are the talking breathing shit of the world |
| 05:19.01 | Wobin | well, by definition, we all are =P |
| 05:20.16 | Wobin | so you're somewhat schitzophrenic with MPD and think you're better side looks like Brad Pitt? |
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| 05:21.25 | mikma | shirik: you buddy is acting strange |
| 05:21.31 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:21.40 | Shirik | nobin, what are you doing |
| 05:21.51 | Tekkub | knobin |
| 05:21.52 | Shirik | this is not AOL chat room |
| 05:21.55 | Shirik | you can't talk like that here |
| 05:22.10 | mikma | lol |
| 05:22.17 | mikma | teach him a lesson dude |
| 05:22.35 | Corrodias | have any of you played Mass Effect? it's doing very little to help me decide on a class for my character. |
| 05:22.37 | Shirik | he's not very good at learning, he likes perl |
| 05:22.43 | End | Wobin: no, he's jack's nipple! |
| 05:22.46 | mikma | ouchwned |
| 05:23.05 | mikma | hahaha |
| 05:23.11 | mikma | jack's nipple =D |
| 05:23.23 | Wobin | Or maybe Bob's left bitchtit |
| 05:23.28 | mikma | i shouuld just buy the movie |
| 05:23.37 | mikma | moobs! |
| 05:23.40 | Shirik | So I ran out of ice cream |
| 05:23.44 | Shirik | I only had enough for half a bowl |
| 05:23.46 | mikma | bob has great big moobs |
| 05:23.52 | Shirik | so I put a klondike bar under a blob of ice cream |
| 05:23.55 | Shirik | best invention ever |
| 05:23.57 | End | haha |
| 05:24.19 | Wobin | klondike? |
| 05:24.35 | mikma | candybar most likely |
| 05:25.01 | Shirik | it's a vanilla ice cream bar with hard chocolate shell |
| 05:25.06 | Tekkub | hrm... I read that as "<Wobin> Or maybe Bob's left butttit" |
| 05:25.29 | mikma | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_bar |
| 05:25.30 | Shirik | ~wiki klondike bar |
| 05:25.34 | Wobin | So you made a reverse chocolate sandwich |
| 05:25.52 | Tekkub | what would you do for an arcanite bar? would you lick a tauren? |
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| 05:26.08 | Shirik | Tekkub would |
| 05:26.11 | Shirik | especially if it were a druid |
| 05:26.15 | mikma | ya, he would |
| 05:26.21 | Wobin | I'd subcontract the tauren licking to you, Tek |
| 05:26.25 | Tekkub | well obviously |
| 05:26.42 | Tekkub | I wasn't asking me :P |
| 05:29.10 | mikma | wobin: http://www.icecreamusa.com/products/product.cfm?u=75856-00180&b=3 |
| 05:29.54 | mikma | Klon-dyke bar |
| 05:30.16 | Tekkub | klondike bear |
| 05:30.29 | mikma | always with the bears |
| 05:31.14 | Tekkub | of course |
| 05:31.46 | Tekkub | I mean, it's not like it's their fucking LOGO or something |
| 05:37.14 | mikma | o-ou |
| 05:37.18 | p3lim | how can i use table.insert to add an entry to look like this: 'something = true,' instead of this: 'something,' ? |
| 05:37.23 | mikma | you got a assfan tekkub |
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| 05:38.23 | Aiiane | p3lim: $table["something"] = true |
| 05:38.53 | p3lim | adding it plain like that instead of using table.insert? |
| 05:39.07 | Aiiane | why would you need to use table.insert? |
| 05:39.28 | p3lim | been using it for that 2nd style of tables before |
| 05:39.32 | p3lim | just got so used to it |
| 05:41.11 | Aiiane | table.insert is mostly used with integer-indexed tables for if you want to insert things at the beginning/end/middle of the integer sequence |
| 05:41.40 | Aiiane | for named table keys, table.insert does nothing you can't just do with the [] syntax |
| 05:45.13 | NightHawkTheSane | heh.. http://data.tumblr.com/1gcJ85FGni9djo2r17w00OGHo1_500.jpg |
| 05:45.28 | p3lim | hm how can i easily change the value of a table entry? |
| 05:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | t["key"] = newvalue |
| 05:45.52 | p3lim | for k,v in pairs(table) do table[k] = v and false or true end |
| 05:45.55 | p3lim | making a toggle |
| 05:46.42 | NightHawkTheSane | t[k] = not v |
| 05:47.21 | Aiiane | why are you wanting to change *every* value in the table, p3lim ? |
| 05:47.23 | p3lim | thanks |
| 05:47.31 | p3lim | was just an example |
| 05:47.35 | p3lim | using a filter in the real thing |
| 05:48.04 | dorbak | given a tradeskill link is it possible to deduce what the recipelist component actually is? (ie: is there a lookup/table available that corresponds to one? Or would one need to be written) |
| 05:48.08 | *** kick/#wowuidev [cogwheel!n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 05:48.27 | Aiiane | ...wat |
| 05:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0? |
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| 05:48.44 | p3lim | huh |
| 05:49.03 | cogwheel | ~poke Shirik |
| 05:49.04 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 05:50.34 | dorbak | from the Tradeskill link, there's a "recipelist" component to the link --- it's base64 encoded --- once you convert it to the binary representation (as per the WoWWiki page), is it possible to tell what the n'th bit's recipe is? (hope that helps clear up my question above :) ) |
| 05:51.24 | cogwheel | ~botmail for sag_ich_nicht moo |
| 05:51.31 | cogwheel | ~botmail for ckknight moo |
| 05:51.36 | cogwheel | ~botmail for ackis moo |
| 05:51.47 | cogwheel | ~botmail for sztanpet moo |
| 05:52.10 | mikma | cogwheel: why so serious? |
| 05:52.55 | Aiiane | ~botmail for cogwheel goose |
| 05:53.08 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://pastey.net/105451 |
| 05:53.44 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:54.00 | p3lim | need to do an if check if the string is more than or equal to one letter |
| 05:54.04 | p3lim | long |
| 05:54.15 | Shirik | #s > 1 |
| 05:54.15 | Aiiane | if string.len(mystr) > 1 then |
| 05:54.16 | Shirik | not hard |
| 05:54.17 | Aiiane | or that |
| 05:54.20 | Shirik | bad Aiiane! |
| 05:54.24 | Aiiane | meh |
| 05:54.24 | Shirik | string.len is deprecated! |
| 05:54.47 | Aiiane | it also is easier to read if you're trying to follow someone else's code and don't know what's a table and what's a string. |
| 05:55.01 | Shirik | bad idea |
| 05:55.13 | Shirik | never imitate the master! |
| 05:55.17 | p3lim | working from scratch |
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| 05:55.47 | Aiiane | if you had a table of strings, I bet it'd be far easier to debug if you accidentally tried to string.len the table than if you just had #table ;) |
| 05:55.47 | nobin | that was so not 30 seconds |
| 05:55.53 | Shirik | That's because I kicked you |
| 05:55.54 | Shirik | not freenode |
| 05:56.00 | Shirik | if it were 30 seconds, it would rename you to a guest |
| 05:56.29 | nobin | so, when you gone i have a 30 sec window to crack you pass |
| 05:56.49 | Shirik | uh... sure |
| 05:56.49 | p3lim | not gonna string.len the table |
| 05:56.50 | p3lim | gonna string.len the string |
| 05:56.50 | p3lim | (SlashHandler) |
| 05:56.50 | nobin | it's like mission impossible |
| 05:56.50 | Shirik | you don't have to be on my nick to try my password |
| 05:57.01 | Shirik | Anyway, Aiiane, maybe you could argue it's easier to debug |
| 05:57.05 | nobin | ah ha, i have found your weakness then |
| 05:57.12 | Shirik | But in a few months, it will probably break, also |
| 05:57.23 | Shirik | because string.len will disappear in the next major release |
| 05:57.49 | Aiiane | which make me sad |
| 05:57.51 | Aiiane | but oh well |
| 05:57.59 | Shirik | course |
| 05:58.02 | Shirik | you could always add it back |
| 05:58.07 | Aiiane | of course |
| 05:58.49 | Aiiane | just give me slice notation and I'll be happy |
| 05:59.08 | p3lim | been using #string before, just didnt think of it |
| 05:59.08 | Shirik | python alert! |
| 05:59.09 | p3lim | got it in my debugging addon |
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| 05:59.50 | Aiiane | hey, python has its moments |
| 06:00.08 | nobin | like a girl does once a month |
| 06:00.41 | Aiiane | ~lart nobin |
| 06:00.41 | purl | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs nobin |
| 06:00.52 | Shirik | wtf is a hotmal account |
| 06:01.11 | Aiiane | it's something cheap and easy to get |
| 06:01.13 | Aiiane | like your mother |
| 06:01.17 | Shirik | ow |
| 06:01.21 | sacarasc | hot mal is this good looking guy called malcolm |
| 06:01.22 | Tekkub | webmail before webmail became popular |
| 06:01.26 | Tekkub | and MS noticed |
| 06:02.03 | Tekkub | and threw money at it thinking they'd win |
| 06:02.03 | Tekkub | and then they didn't |
| 06:02.04 | Tekkub | but they still think they did |
| 06:02.04 | Shirik | what else is new |
| 06:02.04 | Shirik | hotmail was down a few hours ago actually |
| 06:02.16 | Shirik | I was surprised |
| 06:02.16 | Tekkub | I hear that RSS feeds are new |
| 06:02.24 | Tekkub | and "AJAX" |
| 06:02.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:02.28 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane, i do beilive you are getting corrupted listening to us |
| 06:02.44 | Tekkub | I need to buy some Ajax to keep under my bathroom sink for fun |
| 06:02.53 | Shirik | I believe Aiiane was already corrupt |
| 06:03.04 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, not that i saw |
| 06:06.19 | Tekkub | so uhm, do false advertising laws apply to the internet too? http://www.flickr.com/photos/26681170@N03/3162503422/ |
| 06:06.26 | Tekkub | physically unpossible! |
| 06:06.50 | Thunder_Child | no it sint |
| 06:07.05 | Shirik | I thought max was 6? |
| 06:07.13 | Tekkub | 21k |
| 06:07.20 | Shirik | must have been different game :/ |
| 06:07.26 | Thunder_Child | multiple char's |
| 06:07.37 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, shut you fat fuzzy hole |
| 06:07.41 | Shirik | lua> 1e7 / 21000 |
| 06:07.42 | lua_bot | Shirik: 476.19047619048 |
| 06:07.46 | Shirik | 476 characters? |
| 06:07.51 | Shirik | er |
| 06:07.53 | Thunder_Child | possible |
| 06:07.57 | Shirik | lua> 1e6 / 21000 |
| 06:07.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: 47.619047619048 |
| 06:08.02 | Shirik | that's a little more realistic |
| 06:08.09 | Tekkub | or was it 216k |
| 06:08.13 | Shirik | lua> 1e6 / 21000 / 8 |
| 06:08.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: 5.952380952381 |
| 06:08.15 | Tekkub | that sounds mor right |
| 06:08.16 | Thunder_Child | and Tekkub, thats 'your' |
| 06:08.17 | Shirik | still requires 6 servers |
| 06:08.31 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, zip it :P |
| 06:08.47 | Thunder_Child | my hole doesnt zip |
| 06:08.47 | Shirik | Thunder_Child wins round 1 |
| 06:08.50 | Shirik | Round 2, fight! |
| 06:09.00 | Thunder_Child | i just did win round 2 as well |
| 06:09.01 | Aiiane | just retitle the book |
| 06:09.05 | Tekkub | plug it with your foxtail then |
| 06:09.09 | Aiiane | "I own a goldselling service, do you" |
| 06:09.43 | Aiiane | and Tekkub if you turn this into another conversation about buttplugs I will hunt you down and neuter you with a spoon >:| |
| 06:09.43 | Thunder_Child | i'm sorry Tekkub, i thought we made that clear, 'tis yours |
| 06:09.43 | Thunder_Child | do it Aiiane |
| 06:09.50 | Thunder_Child | pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease |
| 06:10.06 | Thunder_Child | and make it a wooden spoon |
| 06:10.24 | Tekkub | Thunder_Child, nothing was established, and for the record, bear dildo, sure I'd buy one, buttplug foxtail, no thanks |
| 06:10.37 | Tekkub | also, good luck finding me! |
| 06:10.41 | Tekkub | ahahahahahaaaaaa |
| 06:10.59 | Thunder_Child | uhhh...dildo or buttplug Tekkub? |
| 06:11.27 | Aiiane | ehehe |
| 06:11.45 | Shirik | you guys sicken me sometimes |
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| 06:11.58 | Thunder_Child | only sometimes? |
| 06:12.04 | Shirik | ok, usually |
| 06:12.10 | Tekkub | I just said, bear dildo, yes I'd buy one |
| 06:12.17 | Shirik | for what |
| 06:12.21 | nobin | <cool-lad voice>ohh no</cool-lad voice> |
| 06:12.25 | Thunder_Child | we werent talking about dildoes though |
| 06:12.45 | Tekkub | yes I'm just esablishing facts for you since you're getting em wrong |
| 06:12.57 | Ackis | aside from dildos, does anyone know why UPDATE_FACTION is fired a million times when you log in? |
| 06:12.59 | Tekkub | you were the one looking at foxtail buttplugs |
| 06:13.00 | Shirik | I think we already have enough facts |
| 06:13.10 | Shirik | Ackis: Probably once for each faction |
| 06:13.11 | Shirik | on a guess |
| 06:13.15 | Thunder_Child | but last time you said you would take a bear buttplug |
| 06:13.16 | Ackis | gah |
| 06:13.17 | nobin | are you guys talking bout gay thinks |
| 06:13.18 | nobin | ? |
| 06:13.29 | mikma | tekkub: what about bear buttplug |
| 06:13.33 | Tekkub | nothing gay about dildos nobin |
| 06:13.47 | Tekkub | mikma, they don't make buttplugs like that :P |
| 06:13.50 | Ackis | Shirik: it's fired 9 times when I get 25 rep with darkmoon faire also... |
| 06:14.02 | Shirik | do the args change at all? |
| 06:14.12 | Shirik | Have you confirmed this behavior with devtools? |
| 06:14.18 | Ackis | that's my next test, I was getting caught in a loop that never ended somehow |
| 06:14.33 | mikma | tekkub: what would it be like is the big question |
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| 06:15.03 | Tekkub | mikma, well they do kinda have a knot, so I geuss the dildo is in it's own way a plug also |
| 06:15.06 | mikma | i've seen pigtail buttplugs, ponytail buttplugs, deviltals buttplug... |
| 06:15.44 | Tekkub | oh you're still on the tail-plug thing |
| 06:15.52 | Tekkub | like I said, I don't want one of those :P |
| 06:16.15 | mikma | i'm not on the tailplugs, fuck the tails |
| 06:16.34 | mikma | pump-plug is style |
| 06:16.36 | Thunder_Child | thats the point mikma |
| 06:16.52 | mikma | thunder_child: pump-plug? i agree |
| 06:16.58 | Tekkub | inflatable are fun! |
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| 06:17.36 | Thunder_Child | mikma, no the comment before that |
| 06:17.38 | mikma | did anyone of you see the link i pasted for haste |
| 06:17.49 | mikma | where the dude sit down on a glassjar |
| 06:17.58 | mikma | and the jar exploded in his ass |
| 06:19.09 | Ackis | Shirik: confirmed w/ devtools and also the parameters don't change (there are no parameters:( ) |
| 06:19.31 | Shirik | there's gotta be a reason |
| 06:20.54 | mikma | silence is "no" |
| 06:21.02 | mikma | maybe i should find the link |
| 06:21.17 | mikma | then you all can scream in terror |
| 06:22.04 | mikma | i remember it got industrial going emo |
| 06:23.17 | mikma | ~google worst sex accident ever |
| 06:35.17 | Tekkub | you're sposda use PLASTIC bottle, GUH |
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| 08:07.37 | Tekkub | In you head, in you he~ad. Zombie! Zombie! Zombie-e-e-e! |
| 08:08.08 | p3lim | i love my debug addon |
| 08:08.30 | Tekkub | mine's better, just like how my random statement was better |
| 08:09.26 | p3lim | http://wow-p3lim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Inomena/ErrorHandler.lua |
| 08:09.35 | p3lim | mine doesnt spam tho :) |
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| 08:10.12 | Tekkub | that's not a debug addon, that's an error catcher, and mine doesn't either :P |
| 08:10.31 | p3lim | I used yours before |
| 08:10.37 | Tekkub | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6681-tekErr.html |
| 08:10.47 | p3lim | Didnt really like the window it used (auctionUI) |
| 08:11.56 | p3lim | Why dont you post images with your addons? |
| 08:13.21 | Tekkub | because I don't want to waste time keeping them up to date across all my addons |
| 08:13.40 | Tekkub | install it and try it, if you justdge an addon by the screenshot, fuck off |
| 08:13.46 | Tekkub | *judge |
| 08:14.41 | p3lim | i dont judge addons by screenshots, but it gives a very good idea of what it does and what it looks like in action |
| 08:16.11 | p3lim | like BlipStick, its a pure graphical change, should have some preview |
| 08:17.25 | Tekkub | what part of "no" is so hard for you to get? |
| 08:18.50 | p3lim | im just saying |
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| 08:55.12 | Zyndrome | damnit, now that you're here, I can't reproduce an error related to pets in picoDPS ._. |
| 08:59.43 | Zyndrome | aha, gotcha! "oShit: (1): Interface\AddOns\picoDPS\picoDPS.lua:55: attempt to concatenate local 'id' (a nil value)" |
| 09:09.29 | Tekkub | Zyndrome, I need to know what units are being passed with UNIT_PET |
| 09:12.40 | Zyndrome | it's my ghoul ... and it's probably the only intelligent answer I can give @ 10 in the morning with no sleep |
| 09:22.53 | Tekkub | so in WG you only get honor and marks-that-have-no-use right? |
| 09:23.00 | Tekkub | (only been there twice) |
| 09:23.13 | Zyndrome | yes |
| 09:23.26 | Tekkub | and most of the honor-bought items also require marks from the instanced BGs? |
| 09:23.30 | p3lim | Tekkub: marks will have a use in the next patch (epic pvp items, belt and boots I think) |
| 09:23.42 | Zyndrome | pretty much the lot requires stonekeeper shards |
| 09:23.52 | Zyndrome | the only thing worth getting is the mount .. the rest can bugger off |
| 09:24.00 | p3lim | doing daily quests in WG will reward you stonekeeper shards |
| 09:24.08 | Tekkub | I guess it's kinda pointless to ask, the only toon I might want PvP items on will likely never reach 80 |
| 09:24.17 | p3lim | the mount is not worth it, rather get the 2k honor tokens |
| 09:24.38 | Tekkub | yea I was ignoring the shard items since I'm not likely to do the dailies |
| 09:25.08 | p3lim | shards can be gathered from instances as long your faction holds WG keep, aswell from the daily quests |
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| 09:25.21 | p3lim | though all you can buy with em are gems, crap and a 2k honor token |
| 09:25.27 | Tekkub | yea I don't do instances on him either |
| 09:25.45 | p3lim | you dont instance, you dont pvp.. what do you do with him? |
| 09:25.56 | Tekkub | jewelcrafting |
| 09:25.59 | p3lim | aha |
| 09:26.05 | Fisker- | also |
| 09:26.06 | Fisker- | mount |
| 09:26.13 | Tekkub | he's a useless hunter I only took for the free bear |
| 09:26.15 | p3lim | Fisker-: listed under 'crap' |
| 09:26.20 | Tekkub | I hate playing him |
| 09:26.29 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 09:27.01 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:27.01 | p3lim | get the real deal from either Dalaran's cash-horny vendor or Storm Peaks |
| 09:27.49 | Tekkub | and people made fun of my spending 10k on a ZA bear |
| 09:28.02 | Tekkub | and look at all the people with the dumb 20k mammoth |
| 09:28.03 | Fisker- | Vechicle mounts are massive fail |
| 09:28.05 | Industrial | 10k? |
| 09:28.06 | Industrial | GIEF |
| 09:28.17 | Fisker- | hehe Tekkub |
| 09:28.24 | p3lim | fun thing, im using my white tiger bought when I hit 60, though its one of the more rare mounts ingame atm.. everyone is riding all those fancy crap mounts, I still use the one I got back in vanilla :) |
| 09:28.27 | Fisker- | Only thing i'm willing to use gold for is that trinket |
| 09:28.31 | Tekkub | Industrial, you fail then, I just broke 40k, and bought me and Trey epic flying about a month ago |
| 09:28.54 | Industrial | :\ |
| 09:28.55 | Industrial | I have 500g |
| 09:28.55 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:28.55 | p3lim | Fisker-: vehicle mounts will be fixed/changed in the next patch |
| 09:28.56 | p3lim | i have 17k |
| 09:29.04 | p3lim | herbalism /flex |
| 09:29.06 | Industrial | gief 4.5k! |
| 09:29.08 | Fisker- | i.e. in over nine thousand days p3lim |
| 09:29.12 | Fisker- | and noone cares |
| 09:29.13 | Tekkub | Industrial, heirloom failure (bigger than epic) |
| 09:29.19 | Industrial | haha |
| 09:29.21 | Fisker- | "Yay i can vendor my shit on a mount" |
| 09:29.21 | p3lim | lol |
| 09:29.34 | Fisker- | "Yeah i can vendor it by traveling for 30 seconds" |
| 09:29.42 | Fisker- | Gz on using 20k for saving 30 seconds |
| 09:29.44 | p3lim | Fisker-: its also an "free" repairbot |
| 09:29.54 | Tekkub | Fisker-, honestly, if it wasn't a lv80 item, it would be horribly useful with my dumb leveling partner |
| 09:29.55 | Industrial | its the most expensive repair in the game |
| 09:29.56 | Fisker- | Repair bots suck and are unnessecary |
| 09:30.01 | p3lim | and if you have rep it costs approx 16k |
| 09:30.03 | Fisker- | also you can't use them in most instances anyways |
| 09:30.08 | Tekkub | even with the new OMG THEY'RE EVERYWHERE vendors in NR |
| 09:30.24 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:30.41 | p3lim | true.. |
| 09:30.52 | p3lim | well im not getting it |
| 09:31.33 | Industrial | get me my epic flying so i can hunt that timelost proto drake too p3lim |
| 09:31.39 | p3lim | [Reins of the Swift Frostsaber] <3 |
| 09:31.43 | Industrial | :E |
| 09:31.48 | p3lim | Industrial: lol i have that mount :) |
| 09:31.49 | ZorbaTHut | I'm getting one, just 'cause, why not |
| 09:31.52 | Tekkub | well hum, WG is kinda pointless then... and here I found pvp that was actually kinda fun |
| 09:31.54 | p3lim | my first flyer too :p |
| 09:31.55 | Industrial | i know thats why |
| 09:31.57 | Tekkub | sucks that |
| 09:32.18 | p3lim | if you dont care, why stop? |
| 09:32.26 | p3lim | if its fun, dont stop |
| 09:32.48 | Tekkub | "kinda fun" ... with no real end goal, that gets old fast |
| 09:33.42 | Fisker- | What happened to the flying vehicles btw? |
| 09:34.43 | Fisker- | But free epix Tekkub |
| 09:34.53 | Tekkub | not if he never hits 80 |
| 09:34.56 | Fisker- | Though of course i'm beginning to be fully decked in T7(25) |
| 09:35.00 | Fisker- | so kinda pointless soon :P |
| 09:35.00 | p3lim | Tailoring rugs are vehicles |
| 09:35.05 | Tekkub | and at 80 I wouldn't play him anyway |
| 09:35.09 | Fisker- | Your moms rug is a vehicle |
| 09:35.24 | p3lim | i though so too when i was a kid :) |
| 09:35.27 | Fisker- | Also p3lim i meant Wintergrasp flying vehicles not flying vehicles in general |
| 09:35.31 | Tekkub | "My other vehicle is your mom''s rug" |
| 09:35.52 | p3lim | well flying is banned from WG |
| 09:36.40 | Fisker- | *facepalm* |
| 09:36.44 | Tekkub | they should give the no-fly a ceiling... you can fly over it, but if you get too low you dismount |
| 09:36.49 | Fisker- | YOU HAD FUCKING AIRPLANES IN WINTERGRASP IN BETA |
| 09:36.51 | Fisker- | ok? |
| 09:38.16 | Fisker- | may also be cheaper nobles cards after 3.0.8 :3 |
| 09:38.19 | Fisker- | that's going to be awesome |
| 09:38.30 | Zyndrome | 11k instead of 12k gold? |
| 09:38.32 | Zyndrome | :< |
| 09:39.52 | Fisker- | Inks of snowfall will cost roughly 1/3 to get now |
| 09:41.00 | Tekkub | I should probably come up with something that gives me the "average" price of the cards on AH so I know if I should make them or not |
| 09:41.13 | Tekkub | right now I just AH my inks when I get too many |
| 09:41.16 | Fisker- | so ~100g to make a darkmoon card of the north |
| 09:41.17 | Arrowmaster | you know back in the day we actually had to go out and kill mobs for an extremely low random chance to get darkmoon cards |
| 09:41.23 | Fisker- | as opposed to ~600-700g |
| 09:41.47 | Fisker- | Or go to the AH Arrowmaster |
| 09:41.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:42.11 | Tekkub | I love Dalaran... "hrm I should check my mail" *turns around* oh look a mailbox! |
| 09:42.16 | Tekkub | it's fucking majick I tells ya |
| 09:42.53 | Arrowmaster | which has more mailboxes i wonder, silvermoon or dalaran |
| 09:43.03 | Arrowmaster | silvermoon has 14 i think |
| 09:43.19 | Tekkub | mailboxes/squarefootage |
| 09:43.35 | Arrowmaster | do the sewers count? |
| 09:43.44 | Fisker- | Dalaran needs an AH |
| 09:43.45 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 09:43.53 | Tekkub | are there mailboxes down there? |
| 09:44.00 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:44.04 | Tekkub | then no |
| 09:44.11 | Arrowmaster | thats cheating |
| 09:44.45 | Tekkub | no it's not, do subways and all that get counted in the square milage of a city? |
| 09:45.24 | Tekkub | if population density doesn't include underground areas, when should mailbox density? |
| 09:45.24 | Arrowmaster | if there is a zone portal between the city and the subway then no |
| 09:46.08 | Tekkub | now if you wanted to argue mailbox/volume, I'm willing to listen |
| 09:47.01 | Tekkub | Dalaran: 5% mailbox/vol |
| 09:47.02 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0D-i_oKvKQ |
| 09:47.06 | Wobin | that's kinda cool |
| 09:47.09 | Wobin | (ignore the music) |
| 09:47.19 | Syzgyn | I know someone figured out real distance against the minimap, so if you reaaaaly wanted to you could figure out mailboxes/sqft against regular cities |
| 09:47.22 | Tekkub | unless you get the shitty grocery store 3.2% dalaran |
| 09:47.44 | Tekkub | yea, kalimdor is like ~12 miles long if I remember right |
| 09:48.08 | Syzgyn | something like that |
| 09:48.24 | Syzgyn | and humans are like 7-8ft tall |
| 09:48.25 | Arrowmaster | should redo that calc now that we know run speed is 7 yards per second or whatever |
| 09:49.29 | Wobin | so dwarves are our height? |
| 09:49.33 | Tekkub | Grizz Hills is 13.3 miles from Exodar |
| 09:50.00 | Syzgyn | lol? |
| 09:51.10 | Syzgyn | http://homepage.mac.com/prym/partthree.html |
| 09:51.28 | Tekkub | kalimdor, sans teld/exo, is ~10 miles long |
| 09:53.00 | Syzgyn | Yea you could figure out what speed is much more precisely now |
| 09:53.28 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how long it would take to walk the entire distance since run speed is 14.318181818 miles per hour |
| 09:56.51 | Syzgyn | Thats more math than I want to do this late at night |
| 09:57.30 | Arrowmaster | are you wondering how i got that number? |
| 09:58.34 | Syzgyn | not really, since that site I just linked has almost the same number |
| 09:59.03 | Arrowmaster | oh i didnt even look at that site |
| 10:03.27 | Arrowmaster | it says 14.04 mph though which is only 6.86400 yards per second |
| 10:07.12 | p3lim | minimap coordination calculations |
| 10:07.53 | p3lim | anyways, food |
| 10:08.08 | Tekkub | Tuskarr's Vitality... minor run speed .... all I can think is "I might be chubby, but I'm quick!" |
| 10:08.19 | Syzgyn | heh |
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| 10:30.08 | Zxcvb | nevermind, it was all pg's fault |
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| 10:52.34 | Industrial | Any enhancement shamans around? |
| 10:53.11 | p3lim | ex-enhancement shaman atleast |
| 10:53.13 | p3lim | why? |
| 10:53.41 | Industrial | dps rotation comparison, dps stats etc |
| 10:54.06 | p3lim | more details please |
| 10:54.16 | Industrial | #wowace |
| 10:54.41 | p3lim | ah |
| 10:54.54 | p3lim | i wont count then, my shaman is and will be 70 |
| 10:55.17 | p3lim | what level of gear are you btw? |
| 10:57.06 | Industrial | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Xamth |
| 10:58.16 | p3lim | the grasp is like the best Mh ingame atm? |
| 10:58.24 | Industrial | yes |
| 10:58.30 | p3lim | lucky thing that you got it then |
| 10:58.39 | Industrial | we have 2 in the guild |
| 10:59.03 | Industrial | I have a 1.8 speed knife too with 156 dps but The Stray still outperforms it with 147dps |
| 10:59.04 | p3lim | you and a rogue |
| 10:59.10 | Industrial | yes, xkoukos |
| 10:59.29 | Industrial | Qyn gets next if it drops ;P |
| 10:59.42 | p3lim | there are better trinkets than the green one you have |
| 10:59.53 | Industrial | yes, thats the only one I still need |
| 10:59.54 | p3lim | even tho the procrate is as high as it is |
| 11:00.01 | Industrial | I want the ap stacking one from sartharion |
| 11:00.08 | p3lim | aha |
| 11:00.16 | Industrial | that green is only like 6% crit |
| 11:00.19 | p3lim | Got job gabbar on my druid last night :p |
| 11:00.24 | p3lim | went oldschool |
| 11:00.44 | p3lim | jom gabbar maybe its named |
| 11:00.55 | p3lim | w/e |
| 11:01.58 | p3lim | need to build up my cat gear :/ |
| 11:02.12 | p3lim | gonna use normal t7 parts once i get heroic |
| 11:02.40 | Industrial | so im looking for another enh sham with equal gear to compare dps |
| 11:02.43 | Industrial | havent found one |
| 11:03.01 | Industrial | i can only do 2.3k on the boss dummy atm |
| 11:03.22 | p3lim | you might be one of the better geared ones on Vashj atleast |
| 11:03.29 | p3lim | 2,3k? |
| 11:03.32 | p3lim | thats a bit low |
| 11:03.44 | p3lim | avg dps nowadays is like 3k |
| 11:03.52 | nevcairiel | dummys are not really any good for testing |
| 11:03.56 | nevcairiel | you lack all the raid support |
| 11:04.09 | p3lim | i can do 2,3k in my tanking gear as cat |
| 11:04.57 | ZorbaTHut | and if you're a prot warrior, dummies are pretty much useless for testing :( |
| 11:07.59 | Industrial | nevcairiel: well yeah compared to other classes at least I scale up in the dps LOTS if I get eg kings motw and might |
| 11:08.18 | Industrial | but still, slefbuffed shammy vs shammy would be comparable :P |
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| 12:38.58 | Cidan | only better |
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| 13:11.28 | Wobin | Runeblade of Demonstrable Power as a DK tank weapon, yeay, or nay? |
| 13:11.49 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44249 |
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| 13:14.04 | sacarasc | kinda missing stamina and other tank stats |
| 13:14.26 | Wobin | truedat |
| 13:14.42 | Wobin | at the moment, however, I'm using Dreadlords Blade |
| 13:15.00 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37108 |
| 13:15.03 | Codayus | Does it seem odd to anyone else that most of the gear the Ebon Blade offers is completely unsuitable for death knights? |
| 13:15.09 | Wobin | I KNOW |
| 13:15.14 | Wobin | Well.. |
| 13:15.18 | Wobin | there's nice dps plate |
| 13:15.20 | Wobin | in the boots |
| 13:15.22 | Wobin | but that's about it |
| 13:16.31 | Codayus | THe DPS boots. The tanking ones have block value. On boots! It's like they're going out of their way to make it really obviously non-DK loot. |
| 13:17.18 | Codayus | The runeblade has agi, haste, and AP. Oo The only thing its missing is armor pen instead of crit to be completely wrong. |
| 13:17.36 | Wobin | I've picked up the runeblade for DPS |
| 13:18.22 | Codayus | *nod* It's still an ilvl 200 sword. |
| 13:18.33 | Codayus | And the crit's always nice. |
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| 13:19.38 | Wobin | but yeah, it's still a ilvl 200 sword |
| 13:19.54 | Wobin | and my tanking sword is only 187 |
| 13:19.58 | Codayus | :( |
| 13:23.27 | Wobin | I might rerune it for parry next run and give it a go |
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| 13:59.47 | mikma | wobin: i got a asswhooping axe last night from naxx =) |
| 14:00.23 | cbreak | I got a cool looking hat |
| 14:00.32 | cbreak | I didn't think there was something like that in WoW these days |
| 14:04.58 | Kaso | As someone who did orginal naxx but doesnt play anymore, from the info i read on wowwiki it seems like naxx has been gutted and is comparatively easy nowadays, would that be the case? |
| 14:06.25 | Ian_corne | maybe |
| 14:06.40 | Ian_corne | the fact that there's 15 less players minimum to worry about is a big advantage :p |
| 14:07.32 | cbreak | naxx is much easier |
| 14:07.36 | cbreak | did you do patch? |
| 14:07.42 | Kaso | yah |
| 14:07.47 | cbreak | the trash before him can now be aoeed. |
| 14:07.50 | Kaso | what!? |
| 14:08.03 | Kaso | Shit, man i used to hate that trash so much |
| 14:08.10 | cbreak | actually, most trash |
| 14:08.15 | selckin | all of it |
| 14:08.28 | cbreak | the frogger after patch is still a major obstacle for some though :) |
| 14:08.35 | Ian_corne | lol last night "just pull the whole damn room" 1 warrior tank and a DK tank in dps gear and spec and 2 healers |
| 14:08.38 | Ian_corne | :p |
| 14:08.50 | cbreak | naxx 10? |
| 14:08.53 | Ian_corne | yeah |
| 14:09.04 | Ian_corne | in the room before the circle patch walks about |
| 14:09.11 | cbreak | there's an achievement to do that with 8 people |
| 14:09.31 | cbreak | I only lack kel for that one. naxx is quite easy these days :) |
| 14:09.35 | Ian_corne | :) |
| 14:09.40 | cbreak | (four horsemen with 8 people was fun :) |
| 14:10.05 | Ian_corne | we still have people getting to 80 who want to join the fun immidiatly so we're putting off achievements mostly |
| 14:10.17 | Ian_corne | we did get to 30K of that widow boss |
| 14:10.21 | Ian_corne | without killing adds |
| 14:10.40 | cbreak | that's one of the easier achievements if your tanks and healers have good gear |
| 14:11.20 | sacarasc | we did that one easy enough with our crap guild |
| 14:12.13 | cbreak | my guild is on thaddius in nax 25 at the moment.I think the first real challenge |
| 14:13.12 | cbreak | the dps boundary is quite hard for us |
| 14:13.28 | Ian_corne | thaddius? |
| 14:13.42 | Ian_corne | is gnuth easier on 25 man? |
| 14:13.53 | Ian_corne | thaddius didn't seem hard on 10 man |
| 14:14.10 | Ian_corne | again we used 1 tank and 2 healers tho |
| 14:14.26 | Ian_corne | ah no 3 healers at that time |
| 14:14.46 | cbreak | the reason thaddius is hard on 25 for us is that he enrages |
| 14:14.55 | |pez| | Oh, I managed to grab a lvl 80 healer for my guild yesterday. |
| 14:15.05 | |pez| | This made me happy. |
| 14:15.22 | Ian_corne | don't you get HUGE +dmg bonusses? |
| 14:15.31 | Ian_corne | on 25 man |
| 14:15.37 | Ian_corne | 10 stacks and the sorts |
| 14:16.24 | Ian_corne | ah 30M hplol |
| 14:17.09 | Ian_corne | Raid DPS needed = ~ 3333,33 per player to beat this timer. |
| 14:17.41 | Ian_corne | we'll see when we get there :) |
| 14:20.20 | cbreak | yes, you get huge bonuses |
| 14:20.27 | cbreak | but if one or two dies, you also lose huge bonuses |
| 14:20.55 | Ian_corne | true |
| 14:23.19 | Ian_corne | what's the range of the polarity shift? |
| 14:23.52 | Ian_corne | 100ys? |
| 14:23.56 | cbreak | we place the whole raid left and right from the boss, in melee range |
| 14:24.07 | Ian_corne | yes |
| 14:24.18 | Ian_corne | but i was thinking about the healers just spreading out |
| 14:24.24 | Ian_corne | but that gives less +dmg buffs |
| 14:24.27 | Ian_corne | so nvm :p |
| 14:24.28 | cbreak | why? |
| 14:24.40 | cbreak | yes, it reduces boni |
| 14:24.49 | cbreak | also, we've tried combat rezzing. doesn't work at all |
| 14:24.59 | cbreak | people without polarity debuff seem to get hurt by both polarities |
| 14:25.11 | Ian_corne | yes |
| 14:25.18 | Ian_corne | you have to wait for the next polarity shift |
| 14:25.29 | Ian_corne | says so on wowwiki :p |
| 14:25.41 | cbreak | hmm... I didn't read strategies |
| 14:25.52 | Ian_corne | you could SS dps instead of healers |
| 14:25.57 | cbreak | but that's what we thought too. the rezer would have to leave the group, therefore reduce damage bonus |
| 14:26.02 | Ian_corne | it's what we do to new people on heigan :p |
| 14:26.07 | cbreak | SS is just as bad as CR |
| 14:26.22 | Ian_corne | you can wait till just ebfore the shift to use it |
| 14:26.25 | cbreak | even worse |
| 14:26.30 | cbreak | yes |
| 14:26.41 | cbreak | ah well, our biggest enemy in naxx 25 is lag |
| 14:26.46 | Industrial | just tank him to the left of the center and run around counter clockwise and all stack on meelee range |
| 14:26.52 | Industrial | very easy |
| 14:26.53 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:26.58 | Ian_corne | yeah :) |
| 14:27.04 | cbreak | I know |
| 14:27.06 | Ian_corne | cbreak: same |
| 14:27.07 | cbreak | we got him to 2% a few times |
| 14:27.13 | Ian_corne | we get disconnectsd all the times |
| 14:27.15 | Industrial | moar ps! |
| 14:27.18 | Industrial | dps* |
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| 14:27.28 | cbreak | less people dieing would help :) |
| 14:27.41 | cbreak | they don't notice that their polarity switches |
| 14:27.48 | Ian_corne | we get about 3-4 people disconnecting during each fight :p |
| 14:27.49 | cbreak | because the debuff appears 5 secs after the cast sometimes |
| 14:27.49 | Industrial | theoretically you shouldnt even touch someone withthe other polarity |
| 14:27.59 | Industrial | cept if you dont notice.. yeah.. |
| 14:28.23 | Industrial | make dead people pay 10g. same with heigan |
| 14:28.34 | cbreak | not their fault |
| 14:28.42 | Industrial | no but good incentive :p |
| 14:28.45 | Ian_corne | i don't mind new people dieing to heigan |
| 14:28.48 | cbreak | it's the server |
| 14:28.55 | Ian_corne | i died too my first time i was there |
| 14:29.11 | Industrial | even if 10g is peanuts to everyone, its still a mental challenge cause you just dont wan to pay anyone 10g |
| 14:31.54 | Ian_corne | a boss version of the gargoyle would be intressting :p |
| 14:32.22 | Ian_corne | 3 gargs at a time is the max we succeded in pulling so far |
| 14:32.46 | Ian_corne | pulling and killing |
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| 16:02.22 | Adys | fail |
| 16:02.35 | Adys | %w doesnt consider ó as alphabetical |
| 16:02.47 | Kaso | only does standard ascii chars :( |
| 16:02.54 | Adys | is there a way around it? |
| 16:02.59 | Kaso | .* |
| 16:03.05 | Adys | meh |
| 16:03.08 | Kaso | or use a set |
| 16:03.13 | Adys | yeah no |
| 16:03.55 | Kaso | "The definitions of letter, space, and other character groups depend on the current locale. In particular, the class [a-z] may not be equivalent to %l." |
| 16:04.13 | Kaso | a set would prob be the best way to work around |
| 16:04.34 | Kaso | how many non-latin letters are you expecting? |
| 16:05.15 | Adys | its for playernames |
| 16:05.19 | Adys | so pretty much any |
| 16:06.14 | Kaso | im not sure in what context you're searching for it in but you could use a negative pattern |
| 16:06.23 | Kaso | [^ ] or %S |
| 16:06.30 | Kaso | or something similar |
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| 16:59.05 | Bibi | [17:02:12] <Adys> fail |
| 16:59.06 | Bibi | QFT |
| 16:59.45 | mikma | # Critical Hit immunity for a level 80 player against a raid boss occurs at 540 Defense and requires a defense skill of 140 (689 +def rating) from gear to achieve. |
| 16:59.48 | mikma | # Critical Hit immunity for a level 80 player against a raid boss can also be achieved by a Resilience of 5.6% and requires a resilience rating of 459.2 to achieve. |
| 16:59.51 | mikma | lul wut? |
| 17:00.08 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 17:00.29 | nevcairiel | you need 5.6% crit reduction, you can combine resilience and defense, too |
| 17:00.30 | mikma | i thought blizz removed resilience crit immunity for raidbosses or so |
| 17:00.46 | nevcairiel | they rumored to do it, i think they never implemented it on live |
| 17:01.01 | mikma | that's sick rofl |
| 17:01.15 | cbreak | I read they disabled resilience inside instances |
| 17:01.17 | mikma | why spend your shit on def-gear when you can get resigear so easily |
| 17:01.20 | cbreak | (other than battlegrounds) |
| 17:01.32 | nevcairiel | mikma: because resilience sucks |
| 17:01.36 | mikma | well, is there a way to test that except by tanking |
| 17:01.38 | nevcairiel | def gets you miss, dodge, parry too |
| 17:01.48 | nevcairiel | resilience doesnt get you anything :P |
| 17:02.37 | nevcairiel | cbreak: so i heard sometime ago, but people kept claiming it works, so dunno |
| 17:02.44 | nevcairiel | i think it was only on PTR |
| 17:03.15 | selckin | resillience gear was great for druids |
| 17:03.28 | selckin | but they are crit immune from talents now |
| 17:06.40 | mikma | well apparently the pvp-gear is the best tankinggear there is for bears |
| 17:07.08 | nevcairiel | thats a false assumption by alot of druids |
| 17:07.41 | mikma | i saw it online, it must be true |
| 17:07.46 | mikma | internet would never lie to me |
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| 17:10.05 | Shadowed | Druids don't need defense, or resiliene anyway |
| 17:10.16 | Shadowed | resilience* |
| 17:10.31 | Ian_corne | is there a pvp tanking set for druids? :s |
| 17:10.40 | mikma | no |
| 17:10.47 | Shadowed | the DPS gear isn't bad for tanking |
| 17:11.06 | mikma | http://www.lootrank.com/wow/wr.asp?Cla=1024&Gem=3&Arm=0.59&Sta=4.33&Def=2.79&Agi=6.79&Dod=4.43&Exp=1.69&Ver=5&title=Druid+Feral+Bear |
| 17:11.08 | Shadowed | not uber amazing, but it's not horrible if thats what you have |
| 17:11.11 | mikma | urlmonster strikes again! |
| 17:11.14 | Ian_corne | don't druids have to stack up on dodge, |
| 17:11.26 | Ian_corne | i doubt the pvp sdps set has dodge? |
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| 17:11.53 | selckin | agi |
| 17:12.06 | Ian_corne | hmmm |
| 17:12.21 | mikma | agi. lots and lots of agi |
| 17:12.41 | mikma | because the heroic versions of the epic in naxx don't have builtin dodge either |
| 17:13.07 | mikma | well.... see the link for yourself :P |
| 17:13.57 | Ian_corne | ah :) |
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| 17:29.50 | cbreak | a mage soloing military quarter in naxx 25... I have to try that... |
| 17:29.55 | Industrial | video? |
| 17:30.05 | nevcairiel | Apparently that was already hotfixed |
| 17:30.06 | cbreak | yes, I've seen one |
| 17:30.09 | cbreak | :( |
| 17:30.12 | nevcairiel | bone armor is no longer stealable |
| 17:30.14 | cbreak | (*grumble*) |
| 17:30.21 | cbreak | I stole it two days ago |
| 17:30.27 | cbreak | but that was in 10 |
| 17:30.50 | nevcairiel | I bet blizz has some scripts in place to notify a dev if something like that happens, a player soloing encounters, or doing massive damage |
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| 17:31.07 | cbreak | that would be fun |
| 17:31.18 | cbreak | red lights, blinking, howling alarm sirens... |
| 17:31.20 | Fisker- | The mage haven't been online since January 1st |
| 17:31.22 | cbreak | omg, mages do massive damage! |
| 17:31.28 | Fisker- | so i think that's a accurate assumption |
| 17:34.33 | mikma | here's a minor wtf i have: 30% improved frost damage or more runic power skills? :O |
| 17:34.57 | nevcairiel | depends on your other talent choices |
| 17:35.13 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0E0oZGxxthxzRhoVssZcg |
| 17:35.18 | mikma | planning on something like that |
| 17:35.34 | mikma | not sure about the rune tap, but it's so funny <3 |
| 17:35.39 | nevcairiel | if you're mostly frost, of course the 30% frost damage |
| 17:35.45 | mikma | tankspec |
| 17:35.59 | mikma | but more runics = more runic strikes = more threat |
| 17:36.15 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt run out of runic power |
| 17:36.42 | mikma | well that can happen when runic strike won't be active and i spent some in frost strike <3 |
| 17:36.45 | mikma | it crits like a moose |
| 17:37.10 | mikma | corpse explosion or rune tap :D |
| 17:37.24 | mikma | corpse is fun when you can show your anger in the freshly killed mobs |
| 17:37.35 | nevcairiel | death&decay cooldown is kinda worthless if you're frost |
| 17:37.35 | mikma | rune tap heals your entire party tho |
| 17:37.38 | nevcairiel | howling blast does all you need |
| 17:37.54 | nevcairiel | you probably only do one d&d for pulling |
| 17:37.59 | nevcairiel | initial aggro et al |
| 17:38.01 | mikma | i usually start with d&d |
| 17:38.03 | mikma | oh hmm |
| 17:38.12 | mikma | and i don't really need improved for that one |
| 17:38.22 | mikma | pulling doesn't happen that often in heroics hehe |
| 17:39.02 | mikma | and back to the umm wtf part now |
| 17:39.18 | mikma | do i really need blood of the north either :D |
| 17:39.31 | mikma | that makes 2x blood runes to become death rune |
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| 17:39.54 | nevcairiel | death runes are awesome |
| 17:39.57 | nevcairiel | keep that |
| 17:40.04 | nevcairiel | its more howling blasts |
| 17:40.08 | nevcairiel | if you get a proper rotation |
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| 17:40.37 | mikma | well that's only good after 3.0.8 when the cd gets removed |
| 17:41.07 | nevcairiel | well you can obliterate with it too |
| 17:41.29 | mikma | i was hoping i could get Dark Conviction and improved rune tap, but.. meh |
| 17:41.42 | nevcairiel | you're the tank, you dont need to heal your party ;) |
| 17:41.48 | mikma | true. |
| 17:41.57 | mikma | oh that's funny btw |
| 17:42.10 | mikma | in pvp i'm usually at pretty high in heals because of rune tap |
| 17:42.20 | mikma | last time we did group-pvp, i was third in heals |
| 17:42.28 | mikma | like.. wtf? |
| 17:45.14 | mikma | oh-ho, now i remember |
| 17:45.19 | mikma | acclimation is useless |
| 17:45.20 | nevcairiel | 2 healers? =P |
| 17:45.50 | mikma | ya, two healers. one on our side and one on horde side |
| 17:45.58 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0EZGxxthxdRhoVosx0g |
| 17:48.33 | mikma | hmm. i'm actually quite happy about that build |
| 17:48.42 | mikma | it has all the +damage boosts i can get from frost |
| 17:50.42 | mikma | D&D as a starter is really, really bad if you are planning to use howling blast :P |
| 17:51.00 | nevcairiel | it gives you time to build up diseases and spread them |
| 17:51.13 | nevcairiel | when you're done with that, you can most likely HB already |
| 17:51.41 | mikma | i got it macro'd nicely: /cast Deathchill /cast Howling Blast |
| 17:51.52 | mikma | chaos after diseases spread |
| 17:53.18 | mikma | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6915212201&postId=73122735948&sid=1#68 <- lul wut? |
| 17:53.36 | Industrial | mikma: what is dick in finnish? |
| 17:53.43 | mikma | industrial: muna |
| 17:53.47 | mikma | industrial: kyrpä |
| 17:53.52 | mikma | muna also means egg |
| 17:54.01 | Industrial | heh : |
| 17:54.03 | mikma | well |
| 17:54.08 | mikma | mulkku is the best translation |
| 17:54.09 | zenzelezz | ei sa peittää! |
| 17:54.15 | Industrial | we have lots of words for it :P like yoghurtgun etc |
| 17:54.19 | mikma | kyrpä is cock, mulkku is dick |
| 17:54.28 | mikma | "stop being a dick" - "älä ole mulkku" |
| 17:54.36 | Industrial | milkku wut?! |
| 17:54.42 | Industrial | fail |
| 17:54.44 | Industrial | mulkku wut?! |
| 17:54.54 | mikma | and muikku is a fish hehe |
| 17:55.06 | mikma | industrial: depends where you wanna use it |
| 17:56.25 | mikma | but really.. lul wut, Morbidity 3/3 causes fps-lag? |
| 17:56.40 | mikma | the threat has been stickied too |
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| 18:04.21 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Lyn2pqy60 |
| 18:04.24 | mikma | that's sad, really sad. |
| 18:14.07 | Fisker- | I had a problem where eventually the game would lag everytime combat log events were generated |
| 18:16.32 | Industrial | uh, what attributes do I set on a Button frame again to make it cast a spell (by name) on click? |
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| 18:17.14 | Industrial | type1 spell and spell1 foo, right :P |
| 18:18.21 | mikma | industrial: i have button:SetAttribute("type", "spell") and button:SetAttribute("spell", spell) in my old addon |
| 18:18.30 | mikma | industrial: not sure has it been changed in 2.4+ |
| 18:18.38 | Iriel | It hasn't |
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| 18:23.19 | Industrial | Anything else I need? http://pastey.net/105483 |
| 18:23.37 | Industrial | I just want buttons that I can click, no fancy actionbutton shit at this time :E |
| 18:24.01 | Iriel | You NEED to inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 18:24.09 | Industrial | ah, right. |
| 18:24.25 | mikma | industrial: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FEFH%2FEFH.lua |
| 18:24.34 | mikma | industrial: my old addon that docks healingbuttons into unitframes |
| 18:25.44 | Industrial | mikma: im gunna use it for everything. shields weaponbuffs totems everything I dont normally want on my actionbar and click once in a while anyway |
| 18:26.33 | matt1s | I'm farming for a blacksmithing plan (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41122), but it doesn't drop (Killed around 60 of the excavators). Do I need to have the required BS skill for it to drop, or just the BS profession? |
| 18:26.42 | mikma | industrial: ummkay :I |
| 18:26.59 | mikma | industrial: most likely you'll do a macro that'll change OOC? right? |
| 18:29.02 | mikma | matt1s: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41122#comments |
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| 18:29.42 | Industrial | mikma: macro? change what? |
| 18:29.47 | foxlit | Industrial: you're clearly describing what OPie should be used for :P |
| 18:29.47 | mikma | matt1s: 0.6% .. happy grinding! |
| 18:30.07 | foxlit | mikma: bs drop % on all only-if-you-have-this-profession loot :) |
| 18:30.11 | mikma | industrial: well i can't see the big picture where you aiming at |
| 18:30.25 | Industrial | foxlit: yet I'm doing it in 50 lines of code :P |
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| 18:31.04 | Industrial | mikma: just grouped clickable spellbuttons, they work fine already. |
| 18:31.17 | foxlit | Industrial: yeah. The devil, however, is in the details. Your 50 lines of code work to create some placeholder hardcoded stuff |
| 18:31.59 | foxlit | Describing an OPie ring in a similar fashion would take... 3. |
| 18:32.09 | mikma | industrial: oh right, i know something about that. it's called MainMenuBar |
| 18:32.49 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: btw: wtb a OPie provided "leave vehicle" button that only shows when it applies :P |
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| 18:33.54 | foxlit | "when it applies" could prove to be a problem |
| 18:34.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, which is why I'm asking you to figure it out and add it. As it stands now, it's impossible to do |
| 18:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 18:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ........ |
| 18:34.24 | ScytheBlade1 | OPie |
| 18:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Sigh |
| 18:34.28 | ScytheBlade1 | I meant Macroon :P |
| 18:34.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ie not you |
| 18:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | What I wanted out of OPie was custom macros - type in your macro to opie and it executes it like it would any other macro |
| 18:35.51 | foxlit | Which it has. |
| 18:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | The difference being it doesn't take up macro slots in the stock UI :P |
| 18:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh? |
| 18:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf where is it? |
| 18:36.09 | foxlit | Select a custom ring |
| 18:36.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm there |
| 18:36.21 | foxlit | There's a little + button next below the left arrow. |
| 18:36.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I clicked it, it does nothing |
| 18:37.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Ze Goggles! Zey Do Noting! |
| 18:37.11 | foxlit | What it should do is pop up a menu |
| 18:37.26 | foxlit | UIDropDownMenu stuff, fairly simple; you sure you've updated the thing in the last eternity or so? |
| 18:37.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Swatter doesn't have anything in it either |
| 18:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrath Beta 2 (1.14) |
| 18:37.51 | foxlit | Get with the program, we're up to 9 |
| 18:37.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 18:37.57 | foxlit | er, 10 |
| 18:38.09 | ScytheBlade1 | This is my linux install, my XP one is likely up to date |
| 18:38.35 | foxlit | Mm, 1.14 was one of those combo 2.4/3.0 releases. |
| 18:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's likely terribly broken anyway |
| 18:39.24 | foxlit | Nah, it was relatively clean -- you loaded either the Wrath or the BC version of the backing lib, and everything ran nicely on top of that. |
| 18:39.44 | foxlit | The problem was that I didn't notice that DropDown arguments changed until a bit later. |
| 18:40.28 | ScytheBlade1 | whoo custom macros |
| 18:40.58 | matt1s | mikma: well that's because you have to have the BS profession to see it drop |
| 18:41.13 | matt1s | mikma: not everyone using the wowhead addon has it, so the droprate is quite off |
| 18:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: thanks. And curious, how often do you read the WoWI comments? |
| 18:41.26 | foxlit | Too often. |
| 18:41.33 | matt1s | mikma: but I'm wondering if I need the BS profession, the BS rank or the BS skilllevel to see it drop? |
| 18:42.03 | mikma | matt1s: why are you talking about "wowhead addon"? :) |
| 18:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Then you've seen me whine about tradeskills lacking Disenchant, Basic Campfire, and the mage travel ring lacking ports? :P |
| 18:42.39 | mikma | matt1s: read the comments. they say all the info you need to know |
| 18:42.39 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 18:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Good. =] |
| 18:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | With that says if it never appears, I'll keep on doing exactly what I'm doing now :P |
| 18:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And with that said, thanks for the awesome addon |
| 18:43.01 | foxlit | The mage ring does not lack ports; I don't intend to alter tradeskills, since you can do that yourself :) |
| 18:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | err? |
| 18:43.21 | NightHawkTheSane | open the mage ring and hit a modifier key, iirc? |
| 18:43.24 | foxlit | Again, indication issues that were fixed in some update. |
| 18:43.45 | foxlit | If you just press your binding, select a slice and release your binding, you'll cast teleport |
| 18:43.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Right |
| 18:44.03 | foxlit | If you hold a modifier that isn't part of your binding, it'll cast a portal. |
| 18:44.09 | foxlit | Modifiers that are part of your binding are ignored. |
| 18:44.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, see |
| 18:44.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That might be my problem.. |
| 18:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | But that totally explains it, thanks |
| 18:45.03 | matt1s | mikma: yeah I read them, it says you need the grand master rank, which I have. I was just looking for a second informed opinion |
| 18:46.25 | Industrial | foxlit: does opie do sub rings? eg totems -> fire ? |
| 18:46.32 | foxlit | No. |
| 18:46.41 | Industrial | ' |
| 18:46.43 | Industrial | k* |
| 18:47.34 | foxlit | You can fake it well enough with /click macros if you |
| 18:47.45 | foxlit | 're using left-clicks to interact with rings, but otherwise, it'd be inelegant. |
| 18:55.58 | Industrial | not if you open opie at the mouse I guess |
| 19:04.51 | amro | anyone know how to match accents in a pattern? |
| 19:05.15 | Iriel | amro it's somewhat tricky, since most of them are UTF-8 encoded as multiple characters |
| 19:07.37 | NightHawkTheSane | "." ;) |
| 19:09.24 | amro | . is too greedy |
| 19:10.20 | NightHawkTheSane | but it -will- match it. :p |
| 19:11.49 | amro | alright then, I need to match accents within player:name:number in name |
| 19:13.52 | NightHawkTheSane | couldn't you use something like .-:.-:.-? |
| 19:13.54 | Iriel | To be honest you're probably best off writing yourself a simple UTF-8 aware scanner |
| 19:14.04 | Iriel | i.e. iterate over the string and check the value of each byte |
| 19:14.16 | amro | NightHawkTheSane: I just tried something like that and it seems to work, going to test more cases |
| 19:16.42 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as you KNOW there'll be delimiter characters which won't be a part of the strings your capturing, thats usually an easy way to do it |
| 19:16.47 | amro | "player:(.*):%d+" seems to work |
| 19:17.28 | foxlit | player:([^:]+): |
| 19:17.55 | foxlit | * is iirc 0 or more, greedy |
| 19:18.56 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't .- work as well? although ([^:]+) is probably a bit smarter |
| 19:19.25 | zenzelezz | -? |
| 19:20.05 | NightHawkTheSane | in lua, "-" is the non-greedy version of * i believe, kind of like .*? in PCRE |
| 19:20.20 | zenzelezz | og |
| 19:20.22 | zenzelezz | *oh |
| 19:20.47 | Industrial | its the non greedy + usually |
| 19:21.26 | Industrial | a single character class followed by '-', which also matches 0 or more repetitions of characters in the class. Unlike '*', these repetition items will always match the shortest possible sequence; |
| 19:21.30 | Industrial | oh, * it seems |
| 19:21.34 | Adys | is there a way to get the current raid members in a table? |
| 19:21.36 | Adys | for a macro |
| 19:21.48 | Adys | like for k,v in pairs(raidt) do PromoteByName(v) end |
| 19:22.07 | foxlit | for i=1,40 do PromoteByID(i); end |
| 19:22.15 | foxlit | or something along those lines, already. |
| 19:22.42 | Adys | oh that works too |
| 19:22.53 | foxlit | There's likely no PromoteByID |
| 19:23.04 | Adys | ah that fails then. |
| 19:23.13 | foxlit | But you can fix that easily. |
| 19:28.38 | mikma | ummmm |
| 19:28.55 | mikma | i don't get that Blood Strike glyph |
| 19:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | nooooooo |
| 19:29.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Fixed a bug with a Wild Mustard plant that was under the ground in Dalaran. |
| 19:29.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I know how to pick that one :( |
| 19:29.16 | Adys | hahahah |
| 19:29.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Now everyone will :( |
| 19:29.19 | mikma | "Your blood strike causes an additional 20% damage to snared targets" |
| 19:29.24 | Adys | how ScytheBlade1 ? :P |
| 19:29.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Not telling :P |
| 19:29.53 | Cide- | teleport hack |
| 19:29.55 | Cide- | done |
| 19:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I said in /g that I toggle GM mode, then hit perma-invis and noclip :P |
| 19:33.01 | foxlit | mikma: snare a target, then multiply the damage your blood strike does normally by 1.20 |
| 19:33.20 | Adys | wtf |
| 19:33.24 | Adys | PromoteByName is nil |
| 19:33.32 | Adys | was it replaced? |
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| 19:41.03 | Industrial | any level 80 pve enhancement shamans around? |
| 19:46.47 | mikma | foxlit: yeah but how to snare them with frost tanking :D |
| 19:47.02 | foxlit | CoI if they're not immune |
| 19:47.38 | mikma | can't count on that one :/ in heroics most of the mobs are. well, i picked my glyphs hehe |
| 19:47.52 | Cide | icy touch glyph? |
| 19:47.55 | foxlit | It also works off any snare |
| 19:48.00 | foxlit | Rather than just our own. |
| 19:48.09 | Cide | er |
| 19:48.13 | foxlit | talent |
| 19:48.25 | foxlit | Chilblains -- adds a snare to Frost Fever |
| 19:48.39 | mikma | yeah but that needs 5 points i don't have :D |
| 19:48.53 | mikma | so i picked up Obliterate glyph |
| 19:48.54 | Cide | ya, that |
| 19:49.40 | foxlit | If you're tanking today, why not unholy? |
| 19:49.48 | foxlit | If you're tanking tomorrow, why not blood? :) |
| 19:49.50 | mikma | because i love howling blast |
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| 19:50.45 | mikma | haven't tested blood/unholy tanking tho :) been enjoying frost too much |
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| 19:52.50 | mikma | also i decided to pick Glyph of Blood Tap :D |
| 19:53.08 | mikma | apparently blood tap is really useful, which i haven't noticed before... weird |
| 19:53.15 | foxlit | Ghoul, Bone Shield, and... Strangulate. |
| 19:53.38 | mikma | Pestilence, Blood Tap, Horn of Winter |
| 19:53.54 | foxlit | Raise Dead, Pestilence, HoW. |
| 19:54.02 | mikma | majors: D&D, IF, Obli |
| 19:54.06 | foxlit | I really should replace with HoW with IB, but people are price gouging that. |
| 19:54.42 | mikma | so i checked my rotation |
| 19:55.31 | mikma | start: D&D (b,f,u), PS (u), IT (f), Pestilence (b) .. at this point all runes are on cd |
| 19:55.54 | mikma | blood tap -> 1 blood rune turns active -> Blood Boil. boom |
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| 20:00.15 | zenzelezz | Undying, ruined on third boss because a moonkin can't control his threat on Thaddius's adds |
| 20:05.35 | Adys | it wasnt ruined if it was on third boss |
| 20:05.45 | Adys | try failing it at KT 10% |
| 20:10.51 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.52 | Adys | wee |
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| 20:21.45 | Vangual | i was actually at like 20 health at our undying run at KT at one point -.-. surely one of those "oh shit" moments |
| 20:22.13 | zenzelezz | Vangual: did you make it? |
| 20:22.27 | Vangual | yea, went berserk on my HS lifeblood buttons |
| 20:23.03 | Vangual | the 25man versionl seems to be more difficult to achieve tho |
| 20:24.28 | Vangual | favourite title tho, sounds cool and not everyone and their grandma has it |
| 20:26.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to see an undead with The Undying |
| 20:26.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be amusing |
| 20:26.12 | Vangual | haha |
| 20:32.20 | zenzelezz | Arthas The Immortal |
| 20:33.00 | ScytheBlade1 | An undead DK with that title might be somewhat more amusing |
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| 20:37.02 | Tem|afk | ScytheBlade1, DK The Argent Champion is more amusing imo |
| 20:37.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be up there, yeah |
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| 21:42.51 | mikma | anyone knows any addon that will block guild-recruitments in trade/general? |
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| 21:51.29 | Shirik | I hate \ being an escape character for regexes |
| 21:51.35 | Shirik | it causes so many problems when trying to put it in a string |
| 21:51.40 | Shirik | public static final String TOKENIZER_PATTERN = "[ \\t-,:;\\.\\(\\)\\[\\]\\-\\\\\\/]+"; |
| 21:51.43 | Shirik | that is so ugly |
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| 21:54.33 | Takeloot | alright can anyone here help me with a LUA script im having trouble with? |
| 21:54.33 | krka | Takeloot: Dude, it's not an acronym! ^_^ |
| 21:54.49 | Takeloot | what? |
| 21:54.55 | Shirik | It's Lua, not LUA |
| 21:54.55 | Shirik | and |
| 21:54.57 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 21:55.11 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:55.11 | Takeloot | can i ask for help? |
| 21:55.11 | Shirik | where's purl |
| 21:55.22 | Shirik | purl is being slow today |
| 21:56.23 | Takeloot | Why can't Triviabot pick up my new question set? the xml file and file name of the question set matches, the only thing I can think is wrong is something in the Lua script... |
| 21:57.22 | Shirik | show the script |
| 21:57.38 | Takeloot | like, copy and paste it? |
| 21:57.43 | Cide | duuuude |
| 21:58.12 | Cide | first time on irc? |
| 21:58.12 | Takeloot | i dont wanna spam the channel >.> |
| 21:58.19 | Cairenn|afk | wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 21:58.21 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:58.29 | Takeloot | k |
| 21:58.36 | Mejjad | crowded :> |
| 21:58.52 | Mejjad | a bunch of wow nerds |
| 21:58.53 | Mejjad | nice |
| 21:59.01 | Takeloot | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105493-3zqc |
| 21:59.05 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o+b Mejjad *!*@c80-216-142-229.bredband.comhem.se] by Shirik |
| 21:59.05 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Mejjad!n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (don't need you bye) |
| 21:59.27 | Takeloot | and the file name for it is TriviaQuestions3.lua |
| 21:59.55 | Corrodias | wow nerds: 53; antiwow nerds: 34 |
| 22:00.28 | Corrodias | Shirik for MVP! |
| 22:00.32 | Shirik | >>> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105493-3zqc |
| 22:00.36 | Shirik | oops |
| 22:00.39 | Olorin_ | anyone know a mod that filters level req on items in tradeskill list? |
| 22:00.44 | Shirik | >>? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105493-3zqc |
| 22:00.45 | Cide | Shirik: [string "-- Initialize arrays..."]:10: '=' expected near 'mosh' |
| 22:00.54 | Corrodias | this is me trying to make this look like a baseball game, and failing |
| 22:01.05 | Shirik | Yeah.... Takeloot |
| 22:01.10 | Shirik | lines 10 through 13 |
| 22:01.11 | Shirik | you can't do that |
| 22:01.15 | Shirik | what is that random text at the end? |
| 22:01.31 | Takeloot | i dont know, on the original that i imitated they had text |
| 22:01.34 | Takeloot | like commentary |
| 22:01.44 | Shirik | Probably comments |
| 22:01.45 | Kaso | with -- in front to make it a comment you can |
| 22:01.46 | Shirik | you need a -- before it |
| 22:01.51 | Takeloot | oh... |
| 22:01.54 | Takeloot | now i feel stupid |
| 22:01.56 | Takeloot | thanks guys |
| 22:02.18 | Shirik | np |
| 22:02.42 | Takeloot | im gonna go test it |
| 22:02.49 | Takeloot | if it works i can start adding more questions |
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| 22:10.44 | Takeloot | thanks guys it worked great |
| 22:14.20 | Cide | I like the redundancy of that code |
| 22:14.26 | Cide | it makes my head hurt |
| 22:15.49 | AnduinLothar | redundancy usually makes me want to go on merderous rampages. you get headaches? |
| 22:17.22 | Cide | the headache comes from repeatedly killing people |
| 22:17.32 | AnduinLothar | ah, yeah |
| 22:18.24 | Takeloot | the redundancy makes me feel smart, at least i know what im doing -_- |
| 22:18.30 | Takeloot | wait no i didnt -_- |
| 22:18.38 | Cide | no. |
| 22:19.05 | AnduinLothar | don't mind us, just a little professional programmer humor |
| 22:19.14 | Takeloot | LO |
| 22:19.17 | Takeloot | :O |
| 22:19.22 | Takeloot | i figured |
| 22:19.27 | Thrae | Redundancy is the perfect exercise in redundancy. |
| 22:19.47 | Thunder_Child | ~redundancy |
| 22:19.48 | purl | from memory, redundancy is In a redundant system, if you lose part of the system, you can continue to operate. For example, if you have two power supplies and one takes over if the other one dies, then that is a form of redundancy. You can take redundancy to ridiculous levels, but you spend more money. |
| 22:20.01 | Thunder_Child | bahm WHERE IS THE HUMOR |
| 22:20.10 | Cide | someone call the department of redundancy department |
| 22:20.19 | AnduinLothar | that's liek space shuttle redundancy. different thing |
| 22:20.29 | Thunder_Child | s/m/,/ |
| 22:20.51 | Thunder_Child | ~redundant |
| 22:20.52 | purl | i heard redundant is found at the Department of Redundancy Department |
| 22:21.03 | AnduinLothar | i have a "department of redundancy department" tshirt |
| 22:21.32 | Cide | nice |
| 22:21.36 | Thrae | I have a Department of Redundancy Department undershirt + vest combo. |
| 22:22.33 | Cide | I have "Department of Redundancy Department" tattooed on my forehead |
| 22:22.42 | Cide | true true story |
| 22:25.52 | AnduinLothar | ScytheBlade1: Why the hell do we have 4 ret 'raiding' ret pallies? Is it like not so subtle hints that i need to make prot main? |
| 22:26.49 | AnduinLothar | or are the other 2 just rediculously flakey backups |
| 22:30.50 | Thunder_Child | speaking of redundancy |
| 22:30.58 | Thunder_Child | "4 ret 'raiding' ret pallies" |
| 22:31.55 | AnduinLothar | making sure you were listening |
| 22:33.13 | Shirik | Sadly Cide |
| 22:33.17 | Shirik | I wouldn't be surprised |
| 22:33.41 | Cide | about my tattoo? |
| 22:33.43 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:33.51 | Cide | that would be a great tattoo |
| 22:38.39 | Tekkub | get one on your ass |
| 22:38.55 | Tekkub | Property of the Dept of Redundancy Dept Property Division |
| 22:39.12 | Tekkub | *Asset Tracking Division |
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| 23:35.15 | foxlit | "Take her home!" "She's wasted!" "Yaaaaaaaaaay!" |
| 23:35.30 | foxlit | The Bad Idea Bears need more exposure, really :) |
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| 23:44.16 | Olorin_ | I musta just won the award for the quickest equiped blue item ever lol , made pair of saronite gloves with socket then equiped and realised I shoudla put the daunting ones on, grrrr |
| 23:44.37 | Olorin_ | well shortest time worn |
| 23:57.47 | Tekkub | note to self, write an automated greeter addon blocker |
| 23:57.55 | Tekkub | join guild, fucking 4 people |
| 23:58.04 | Tekkub | then they promote me so I can talk, same 4 |
| 23:58.15 | AnduinLothar | can you write me an addont hat blocks QQ'ing? |
| 23:58.42 | AnduinLothar | i had to leave gchat cause our resident druid and friends were QQing relentlessly about how pvp sucks now |
| 23:58.59 | Tekkub | nah that's what muted ranks are for |
| 23:59.46 | AnduinLothar | that would require me to have power |
| 23:59.46 | AnduinLothar | maybe i should just use ignore |
