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| 00:03.48 | Arrowmaster | wow i really missed an interesting conversation |
| 00:04.21 | Corrodias | butt plugs and weddings |
| 00:04.30 | Corrodias | sounds like a good day |
| 00:05.35 | Aiiane | or a very bad day |
| 00:06.36 | Corrodias | heh.. depends on what role you're playing :d |
| 00:08.18 | Wobin | Was the groom looking uncomfortable? |
| 00:08.18 | Wobin | I thought that was the standard look |
| 00:12.38 | foxlit | The cookie monster ate my cookies :( |
| 00:12.56 | Aiiane | no that was just me foxlit |
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| 00:22.08 | mikma | sylvanaar: how's skynet going? ;) |
| 00:25.28 | zenzelezz | almost self-aware |
| 00:25.30 | sylvanaar | i was fixing wholib |
| 00:25.51 | sylvanaar | no eta on judgement day |
| 00:27.03 | Igor | sylvanaar: building a defense network? |
| 00:27.37 | sylvanaar | no, thats mikma's name for some addon code which would manage a global addon channel |
| 00:28.07 | foxlit | 1. Flood other people first, ask questions later. |
| 00:28.12 | foxlit | 2. See 1. |
| 00:28.59 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/test/WoWScrnShot_122708_235639.jpg <- gnome power in naxx :D |
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| 00:31.03 | zenzelezz | mikma: :-p |
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| 00:44.11 | squidbear | hello |
| 00:45.56 | zenzelezz | hi |
| 00:48.23 | squidbear | how goes it |
| 00:48.57 | zenzelezz | not to shabby |
| 00:51.09 | squidbear | shabby died |
| 00:51.27 | zenzelezz | it's almost two at night, I typo :-p |
| 00:52.12 | Fisker- | Why so ø mikma ? |
| 00:52.50 | mikma | is that a goatse? |
| 00:53.10 | Fisker- | oe = ø |
| 00:53.21 | mikma | oh lol |
| 00:55.11 | cbreak | reading the blizzard forum makes me lose the little bit faith I had in my fellow WoW players... |
| 00:58.29 | Tekkub | you're a fool to go there |
| 00:59.00 | squidbear | hummm |
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| 01:00.15 | squidbear | attempt to compare number with string ( http://wowuidev.pastey.net/105122 ) |
| 01:00.29 | squidbear | I get that error when I target a player |
| 01:00.44 | squidbear | I'm calling it like this: |
| 01:00.45 | squidbear | SF_TargetName:SetText(SF_FormatName(UnitName("target"))) |
| 01:00.46 | Tekkub | stop passing a string |
| 01:01.23 | squidbear | ? |
| 01:01.34 | Tekkub | you're passing a string to length |
| 01:03.24 | squidbear | doesn't length default to nil? |
| 01:03.41 | Tekkub | you're passing a string to length |
| 01:04.26 | squidbear | but the func has 2 params... |
| 01:04.38 | squidbear | and I only set 1 in my call |
| 01:05.07 | Tekkub | UnitName has two returns |
| 01:06.17 | squidbear | Oh right...is there a way to only get the string instead of unitid? |
| 01:06.31 | cbreak | put it into brackets |
| 01:06.38 | cbreak | (the function call) |
| 01:06.58 | Tekkub | (UnitName("target")) will only use the first return |
| 01:08.01 | squidbear | Hmm...ok |
| 01:08.43 | cbreak | would explicitly setting a second argument also do it I wonder? |
| 01:09.07 | Tekkub | yes |
| 01:09.29 | squidbear | like UnitName("target", nil) ? |
| 01:09.33 | Tekkub | yes |
| 01:09.36 | Tekkub | er |
| 01:09.46 | Tekkub | blah(UnitName("target"), nil) |
| 01:10.07 | squidbear | is one method more standard than the other? |
| 01:10.24 | Tekkub | no |
| 01:10.49 | Tekkub | I use blah((meh("guh"))) myself |
| 01:10.54 | cbreak | I think the second is better since it's more obvious |
| 01:11.10 | Aiiane | lua> function a() return 1,2 end return a(),3 |
| 01:11.11 | cbreak | hmm... no, it's not more obvious :( |
| 01:11.11 | lua_bot | Aiiane: 1, 3 |
| 01:12.02 | Aiiane | Tekkub: how would you go about using both of the returns + more specified values? |
| 01:12.24 | Tekkub | save them to locals then pass them on the call |
| 01:12.24 | Aiiane | i.e. if you have a() that returns 2 values, and b() that takes 3, and you want to specify the last and have the first two be a()'s returns |
| 01:12.30 | Aiiane | That's what I figured |
| 01:12.35 | Aiiane | no way to do it inline then |
| 01:12.50 | Tekkub | if the func call insiide is not the last, only it's first return is used |
| 01:13.29 | cbreak | maybe you could just call the function twice and use select :) |
| 01:13.35 | cbreak | unless the function has side effects |
| 01:13.42 | cbreak | (but either way, inefficient :) |
| 01:13.56 | Tekkub | select's worse than locals, aye |
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| 02:11.13 | Fisker- | haste |
| 02:11.16 | Fisker- | it's your fault |
| 02:12.18 | Industrial | hmm |
| 02:12.29 | Industrial | ishikawa chiaki <3 her voice |
| 02:20.18 | Sam-L | ? |
| 02:20.56 | Sam-L | fucking anime |
| 02:23.55 | Industrial | ? |
| 02:23.58 | Industrial | fucking random comment |
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| 03:20.47 | mikma | arrowmaster: you know what i just noticed with wow and channels... |
| 03:21.05 | mikma | arrowmaster: you don't join the channels again with /rl. you only join them when you login for the character menu |
| 03:21.40 | Fisker- | a wild fisker appears |
| 03:21.58 | mikma | got any trouts to sell? |
| 03:22.01 | Fisker- | nope |
| 03:22.06 | mikma | cods? |
| 03:22.16 | Aiiane | that wild Fisker- is one wild Fisker- |
| 03:22.36 | Fisker- | i sell nothing mikma |
| 03:22.38 | Fisker- | i'm wild :3 |
| 03:22.46 | mikma | then you also get nothing |
| 03:22.51 | Fisker- | :(? |
| 03:43.53 | Arrowmaster | mikma: you are still in the temporary channel when you reload though right |
| 03:44.09 | mikma | arrowmaster: true, then there's no need to check the channel, which i am coding atm |
| 03:44.21 | mikma | local function debugprint(text) ChatFrame3:AddMessage("Yo dawg, "..text.." dawg.") end |
| 03:44.25 | mikma | cool debugprints incoming! |
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| 03:46.17 | Tekkub | more like stupid ones |
| 03:46.52 | Tekkub | local function debug(...) print("MyAddonName debug:", ...) end |
| 03:46.59 | mikma | [05:46:41] Yo dawg, WGTglobal did not exist dawg. |
| 03:47.02 | mikma | ain't that cool! |
| 03:47.09 | Tekkub | nope |
| 03:47.15 | mikma | aww, dawg :( |
| 03:47.31 | mikma | xzbitizx would be sad little dawg |
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| 04:20.06 | mikma | arrowmaster: http://mikma.pastey.net/105132 |
| 04:29.15 | mikma | arrowmaster: http://mikma.pastey.net/105133 |
| 04:30.35 | mikma | i'm just gonna whack that time to half a min |
| 04:32.46 | Corrodias | hey dawg, i put a frame in yo frame so you can register events while you register events |
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| 04:40.04 | Shirik | Okay, halp |
| 04:40.08 | Shirik | purl doesn't like me |
| 04:40.11 | Shirik | purl, google $n is <reply>http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=$n |
| 04:40.24 | Shirik | (23:39:51) (purl) I think you lost me on that one, Shirik |
| 04:41.11 | mikma | purl: google $n is <reply>http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com/\?q\=\$n |
| 04:41.30 | Aiiane | ~listkeys google |
| 04:41.33 | mikma | no reply |
| 04:41.51 | Shirik | now that I think about it, does purl already have a built-in google support? |
| 04:41.54 | Aiiane | ~google |
| 04:41.55 | purl | [google] a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 04:42.02 | Shirik | ~google hello world |
| 04:42.06 | Aiiane | that's why you can't overwrite it :P |
| 04:42.10 | Shirik | Uh, no |
| 04:42.13 | Aiiane | ~literal google |
| 04:42.14 | purl | "google" is "a search engine found at http://www.google.com/" |
| 04:42.18 | Shirik | You can write two different ones |
| 04:42.22 | Shirik | ~hug |
| 04:42.23 | purl | ACTION hugs shirik |
| 04:42.25 | Shirik | ~hug Aiiane |
| 04:42.26 | purl | ACTION hugs Aiiane |
| 04:42.28 | Shirik | ~literal hug |
| 04:42.28 | purl | "hug" is "<action> hugs $who" |
| 04:42.34 | Shirik | ok bad example |
| 04:42.36 | Shirik | wait, no that works |
| 04:42.45 | Shirik | ~literal cmd: hug (.*?) |
| 04:42.46 | purl | "cmd: hug (.*?)" is "($1): <action> (gets a running start and tackle-hugs $1 | hugs $1 | jumps into $1's lap and huggles and *hugs* $1 | hugs $1 tightly until $1 turns slightly blue | sneaks up on $1 and suddenly hugs $1 tightly)" |
| 04:42.51 | Shirik | notice that they're different |
| 04:42.55 | Aiiane | yes |
| 04:43.05 | Aiiane | but to have multiple, you have to tell purl to make it multiple |
| 04:43.10 | Aiiane | you can't just define it, and have it added |
| 04:43.28 | Aiiane | attempting to just define it, just tries to create it if it doesnt exist |
| 04:43.38 | Aiiane | ~literal shirik |
| 04:43.39 | purl | "shirik" is ""If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik" |
| 04:43.47 | Aiiane | ~literal shiri |
| 04:43.55 | Aiiane | purl, shiri is meep |
| 04:43.55 | purl | Aiiane: okay |
| 04:43.58 | Aiiane | ~shiri |
| 04:43.58 | purl | shiri is, like, meep |
| 04:44.05 | Aiiane | purl, shirik is test |
| 04:44.05 | purl | cannot alter locked factoids, Aiiane |
| 04:44.07 | mikma | ~emulate mikma |
| 04:44.08 | purl | Industrial loves manboobs! |
| 04:44.17 | Aiiane | purl, forget shiri |
| 04:44.17 | purl | i forgot shiri, Aiiane |
| 04:44.23 | Shirik | You are testing something completely different, Aiiane |
| 04:44.44 | mikma | purl: unlock shirik |
| 04:44.44 | Shirik | the "is also" is for the same factoid |
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| 04:44.52 | mikma | <0644> [freenode] <purl> sorry, you are not allowed to unlock factoid 'shirik'. |
| 04:44.58 | mikma | good bot. when it's working |
| 04:44.59 | Shirik | Only I'm allowed to unlock shirik :) |
| 04:45.17 | mikma | ~emulate shirik |
| 04:45.18 | purl | I'll whine about anything |
| 04:46.06 | Aiiane | and, Shirik ? |
| 04:46.18 | Shirik | And it has no relationship to what I'm trying to do |
| 04:46.22 | Aiiane | which is? |
| 04:46.29 | Shirik | which is add this factoid |
| 04:46.46 | Aiiane | purl, shiri is test |
| 04:46.47 | purl | okay, Aiiane |
| 04:46.55 | Aiiane | purl, shiri $n is meep $n |
| 04:46.56 | purl | okay, Aiiane |
| 04:46.59 | Aiiane | hm |
| 04:47.01 | Aiiane | ~google test |
| 04:47.16 | Aiiane | ~shiri beep |
| 04:47.17 | purl | meep beep |
| 04:47.23 | Aiiane | purl, forget shiri |
| 04:47.23 | purl | i forgot shiri, Aiiane |
| 04:47.29 | Aiiane | purl, forget shiri $n |
| 04:47.29 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'shiri $n' to forget, Aiiane |
| 04:47.37 | Aiiane | cute |
| 04:47.39 | Shirik | purl, forget cmd: shiri (.*?) |
| 04:47.40 | purl | i forgot cmd: shiri (.*?), Shirik |
| 04:50.02 | Shirik | there must be some broken google module installed, because it's the only name I can't give it |
| 04:51.46 | Aiiane | ~googlesearch test |
| 04:52.42 | Aiiane | guess so |
| 04:54.23 | mikma | hmmrph :( also need to add UnitOnTaxi("unit") for this global channel checker |
| 04:54.24 | mikma | sucks balls |
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| 05:02.18 | Arrowmaster | mikma: that 'bug' sucks |
| 05:04.27 | mikma | i think i'll do the following. |
| 05:05.15 | mikma | if UnitOnTaxi("player") then f:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_CONTROL_GAINED") f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() foo... end) |
| 05:05.21 | mikma | that might do it nicely |
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| 05:23.17 | Joontje | Can anyone give me a hand with skinner ? just to get started :p im trying to recreate my old UI |
| 05:23.26 | mikma | yeah i can |
| 05:23.27 | mikma | delete it. |
| 05:23.29 | mikma | now! |
| 05:23.39 | Joontje | O_o |
| 05:24.00 | Joontje | why |
| 05:24.05 | mikma | because it's EVIL |
| 05:24.10 | Joontje | why is it evil |
| 05:24.15 | mikma | evil abomination from haste's beautiful addon |
| 05:24.31 | Joontje | i just want to get my old ui back |
| 05:24.52 | Joontje | but it was a pack thats no longer being developed and skinner doesnt seem to pick up the old skinners settings so i have to redo it and have no clue how :P |
| 05:24.57 | Joontje | just need some pointers ^^ |
| 05:25.23 | Cairenn | Sam-L: ping? |
| 05:26.14 | Joontje | i just need to know how to create a background |
| 05:27.47 | Joontje | or maybe someone can point me where i can ask? |
| 05:37.13 | Joontje | >_< |
| 05:45.39 | ckknight | check out kgPanels |
| 05:45.41 | ckknight | it's pretty cool |
| 05:45.55 | ckknight | or use addons that are naturally beautiful |
| 05:48.02 | Joontje | ckknight ill check it out |
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| 06:00.18 | Hirsute | Anyone willing to look at this: http://norgdev.pastey.net/105138 and tell me what I need to do to stop getting the following error: "attempt to index field 'name': a nil value" |
| 06:01.00 | mikma | arrowmaster: if you got another vision of this, please let me know :) http://mikma.pastey.net/105140 |
| 06:01.18 | mikma | ... why ain't there a complete list of what wow does when player logins :O |
| 06:01.32 | ckknight | Hirsute: you sure you want tiftDB.nameblacklist.name and not tiftDB.nameblacklist[name]? |
| 06:01.45 | mikma | or an addon that starts recording the events right after it gets loaded (and therefore, shows the events what happen before PEW) |
| 06:01.59 | ckknight | mikma: scrunchedspacingisevil |
| 06:02.14 | mikma | ckknight: tabs didnt work |
| 06:02.31 | ckknight | no, I mean checkchannel |
| 06:02.52 | ckknight | rather than something slightly saner like check_channel, checkChannel or CheckChannel |
| 06:03.10 | Hirsute | ckknight: Well, no, I'm not sure. Would the syntax be tiftDB.nameblacklist[name][permanent], then? |
| 06:03.18 | ckknight | Hirsute: sure would |
| 06:03.24 | Hirsute | ckknight: Great, thanks! |
| 06:03.39 | ckknight | that is, if tiftDB.nameblacklist[name] is a table in its own right |
| 06:04.22 | Hirsute | In other words, I should do a tiftDB.nameblacklist[name] = {} right after the "if name"? |
| 06:04.40 | ckknight | not necessarily |
| 06:04.44 | ckknight | it depends how the DB is set up |
| 06:04.48 | ckknight | how is it? |
| 06:05.05 | Hirsute | tiftDB.nameblacklist[name] won't exist until that function is called. |
| 06:05.56 | ckknight | Hirsute: also, is permanent an upvalue? |
| 06:06.02 | ckknight | or do you mean .permanent instead of [permanent]? |
| 06:06.03 | Hirsute | boolean |
| 06:06.15 | Hirsute | permanent will be either true/false |
| 06:06.34 | Hirsute | sorry, permanent will be either "yes" or "no" |
| 06:06.53 | Hirsute | hold on |
| 06:06.55 | Hirsute | (too tired) |
| 06:07.37 | Hirsute | What I want that function to do is create tiftDB.nameblacklist[name][permanent]=true/false |
| 06:07.59 | Hirsute | tiftDB.nameblacklist[name] won't have been created yet at the time the function is called. |
| 06:08.05 | ckknight | is permanent a variable or do you want ["permanent"]? |
| 06:08.12 | Hirsute | "permanent" |
| 06:08.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:08.57 | Hirsute | Aaah, I see what you mean, so either tiftDB.nameblacklist[name].permanent = true/false or tiftDB.nameblacklist[name]["permanent"]=true/false |
| 06:08.57 | ckknight | so do .permanent, not [permanent] |
| 06:09.11 | ckknight | .permanent is equivalent to ["permanent"] |
| 06:09.12 | Hirsute | Gotcha, thans! |
| 06:09.15 | Shirik | or ["permanent"] |
| 06:09.16 | Shirik | yeah |
| 06:09.23 | Hirsute | s/thans/thanks/ |
| 06:09.33 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:09.38 | MentalPower | mikma, you can do that yourself (SomeFrame:RegisterAllEvents()) |
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| 06:22.48 | mikma | mentalpower: hmm... |
| 06:23.14 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. Okay, another question... I'm getting "attempt to call method 'tonumber' (a nil value)" errors. |
| 06:23.25 | Hirsute | What's the proper way to use tonumber()? |
| 06:23.54 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know if there's a function for "can be equipped, including all the requirements"? i.e. "the icon of this item isn't red"? all the obvious-sounding functions seem to be do the wrong thing |
| 06:23.57 | ckknight | paste your code, Hirsute |
| 06:24.03 | Hirsute | is it just tonumber(foo), rather than foo:tonumber()? |
| 06:24.06 | ckknight | yes. |
| 06:24.06 | Hirsute | ckknight: Okay, pasting |
| 06:24.14 | Hirsute | Ah, nevermind. That's my problem. |
| 06:24.38 | ckknight | tonumber(x) works on strings and numbers |
| 06:24.41 | ckknight | not just strings |
| 06:26.06 | Hirsute | ckknight: Thanks, that fixed it. |
| 06:26.49 | MentalPower | ZorbaTHut: you can check how the actionbar code does it |
| 06:26.51 | Hirsute | Anyone recommend a replacement for Critters (addon to randomly call a critter for you)? Critters seems to have issues with the holiday pets. |
| 06:27.03 | MentalPower | off the top of my head I can't remember if there is one |
| 06:27.05 | Hirsute | (Immediately dismisses them and summons a different pet instead) |
| 06:28.18 | ZorbaTHut | I'm assuming that the action bar just defers to the item code, but I'm having no luck finding item code that might do such a thing :P |
| 06:28.31 | ZorbaTHut | clearly I need to learn the blizzard codebase better |
| 06:29.35 | mikma | mentalpower: f:RegisterAllEvents(l f:SetScript("OnEvent", funtion(self,event) print(event) end) ? |
| 06:29.57 | mikma | s/(1/()/ |
| 06:30.12 | mikma | oh it was l not 1 |
| 06:30.26 | MentalPower | ~fail mikma |
| 06:30.26 | purl | mikma, you Fail! |
| 06:30.40 | MentalPower | but yeah, that sounds about right |
| 06:30.50 | MentalPower | tho be careful, theres bound to be a lot of overhead on that |
| 06:31.22 | MentalPower | and you might want to store the results in a table and dump to SVs (when they become available) |
| 06:31.31 | MentalPower | easier to scrutinize out of game than within |
| 06:32.27 | mikma | not a bad idea |
| 06:36.07 | Tekkub | dear blizzy, why can't JC and cooking just have research or discovery? |
| 06:36.22 | Tekkub | I'm so sick of these dailies |
| 06:36.37 | mikma | tekkub: or mass-milling and prospecting |
| 06:36.52 | Tekkub | milling sucks big floppy tauren balls |
| 06:36.58 | Tekkub | with prosp it was tollerable |
| 06:37.15 | Tekkub | but I have a *huge* herb bag full of misc leftovers |
| 06:37.16 | kd3 | meh... it's funny. until I got an ipod I thought my music collection was well-tagged |
| 06:37.33 | Tekkub | kd3, it probably was |
| 06:37.40 | kd3 | I'm not using iTunes |
| 06:37.40 | Tekkub | no one uses the same damn tags |
| 06:37.48 | Tekkub | especially for "album artist" |
| 06:37.57 | kd3 | ya |
| 06:38.16 | Tekkub | multi-disc albums are also an inconsistent mess |
| 06:42.24 | ZorbaTHut | haha, that's awesome. I just realized that even the base UI doesn't highlight unusable things in bags |
| 06:42.38 | ZorbaTHut | and that there's a pile of functions that do what I want . . . but only if they're in merchant, quest, or auction dialogs |
| 06:42.48 | ZorbaTHut | sigh |
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| 06:50.30 | Amarande | Login server go boom? |
| 06:51.18 | Amarande | I just got disconnected from Turalyon and keep being told my login info is incorrect ... if I go to the account pages on the WoW site, my login info is just fine |
| 06:54.49 | Amarande | (if I was hacked, I'd presume that the site wouldn't accept my password either, heh) |
| 06:55.02 | Cairenn | ummmmm |
| 06:55.17 | Amarande | Cairenn: password works on Blizzard account management page, but not in-game |
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| 06:55.32 | Amarande | ah, now it works again |
| 06:55.35 | Amarande | dammit, stupid login server |
| 06:55.58 | Amarande | I'd just better not be dead when I log back on. :) |
| 06:57.08 | Amarande | whew |
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| 07:21.00 | Adys | anyone good with apt? |
| 07:21.03 | Adys | The following packages have unmet dependencies. bzr: Depends: python-central (>= 0.6.7) but 0.5.12 is to be installed |
| 07:21.10 | Adys | I cant find how to override that |
| 07:22.49 | Shirik | Sounds like gentoo |
| 07:22.57 | Shirik | ^_^ |
| 07:23.04 | ckknight | ah, the issue is that you're using bzr instead of git |
| 07:23.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:23.08 | ckknight | that's it |
| 07:23.24 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:23.25 | Shirik | Solution: use portage instead of apt |
| 07:23.39 | Adys | git fails for smallscale projects |
| 07:23.43 | ckknight | compile the tarballs yourself |
| 07:23.44 | Adys | its just a 3-person repo |
| 07:23.47 | Shirik | git fails always |
| 07:23.53 | ckknight | Adys: I disagree, I use it on |
| 07:23.54 | Adys | nah git is pretty good |
| 07:23.56 | ckknight | my stuff |
| 07:24.02 | ckknight | Shirik: what's your reasoning? |
| 07:24.07 | Adys | just for very big or big-team projects imo |
| 07:24.10 | Shirik | I like svn :) |
| 07:24.14 | Shirik | that's my reasoning |
| 07:24.22 | Adys | svn is good too |
| 07:24.28 | Adys | but a pain when it comes to some complicated tasks |
| 07:24.35 | Adys | also, nevermind, I downloaded directly http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/python-central/download |
| 07:24.51 | Adys | sarge repos had a 3 year old bzr version |
| 07:25.00 | Adys | last bzr is from 2 weeks ago.. |
| 07:27.08 | ckknight | I like the cheap branching in git |
| 07:27.12 | ckknight | I use it a lot locally |
| 07:27.37 | ckknight | and I like that I don't have to push to the central repo all the time |
| 07:28.03 | Adys | exactly like bzr |
| 07:28.46 | ckknight | Adys: yea, I know. |
| 07:28.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 07:28.55 | ckknight | I'm just harping on you |
| 07:29.01 | ckknight | I don't have much bzr experience |
| 07:29.05 | Adys | using git for personal projects feels like using a wartank to move in town |
| 07:29.27 | ckknight | http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/#bzr |
| 07:29.29 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:29.53 | ckknight | Adys: I don't see why it's so bad an idea, especially now that the UI is a lot nicer |
| 07:30.16 | Addybot | oops |
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| 07:30.22 | mikma | type ( "YOU_JOINED" if you joined a channel, or "YOU_LEFT" if you left, or "THROTTLED" if channel was throttled ) |
| 07:31.10 | Adys | ckknight: im not one to tell someone how to work or anything :P |
| 07:31.13 | ckknight | mikma: *thumbs up* |
| 07:31.16 | Adys | it just "feels" way too big |
| 07:31.26 | mikma | what does the throttled mean in this case? |
| 07:31.38 | Adys | mikma: max user i guess |
| 07:31.40 | ckknight | mikma: any context? |
| 07:31.57 | Adys | theres no msg throttling apart from the default one on freenode |
| 07:32.02 | mikma | ckknight: "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_NOTICE" |
| 07:32.08 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:32.53 | mikma | so, whats throttled channel in wow? how does it happen etc |
| 07:33.12 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 07:33.16 | Adys | oh ingame |
| 07:33.35 | Tekkub | my god I think I'm going to pass out from blood loss |
| 07:33.38 | Tekkub | stupid zit |
| 07:34.07 | mikma | interesting! |
| 07:34.28 | mikma | quick! someone! give mouth to mouth for tekkub.. |
| 07:34.41 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.29 | Tekkub | you know the worst part about the stupid JC dailies is picking the recipe to buy |
| 07:35.33 | mikma | where is eduardo when i need him |
| 07:35.35 | Tekkub | WTB random research |
| 07:36.11 | Tekkub | Ed? Fosters blah blah Imaginary Friends? |
| 07:36.26 | Tekkub | I miss that show, it was so dumb but amusing |
| 07:38.01 | mikma | ~whaleparry tekkub |
| 07:38.02 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry tekkub's attacks. |
| 07:38.14 | Tekkub | I'm immune to purl now |
| 07:38.19 | mikma | oh it was edWardo |
| 07:40.57 | mikma | DUNGEON_DIFFICULTY3 = "Epic"; |
| 07:41.22 | Tekkub | 40 mans are coming back! |
| 07:41.35 | Adys | its used for av80 |
| 07:41.37 | Tekkub | no more wasted raid UI! |
| 07:42.47 | Arrowmaster | is it bad when you get a full stack of winter veil eggnog on one character? |
| 07:45.13 | Tekkub | heh, they gave Feed Pet a cooldown |
| 07:45.16 | Tekkub | when did that happen? |
| 07:45.30 | Tekkub | no more idiots wasting food on pets |
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| 07:48.46 | Amarande | Tekkub: probably as soon as they took away pets losing loyalty and running away |
| 07:49.15 | Amarande | hrm. |
| 07:49.33 | Amarande | apparently some WotLK dungeon quests can only be done on normal mode |
| 07:49.34 | Amarande | that's odd, and new |
| 07:49.46 | Amarande | in BC, quests could be done on either unless they specifically specified heroic |
| 07:50.07 | mikma | what? pets cant run away anymore? |
| 07:50.23 | Tekkub | not unless you do bad things to them |
| 07:50.34 | mikma | like? |
| 07:50.36 | Amarande | mikma: the loyalty system was removed |
| 07:50.43 | Amarande | now you have to specifically abandon a pet to lose one |
| 07:50.46 | mikma | tell me what have you done tekkub |
| 07:50.54 | Amarande | however, unhappy pets still get the damage debuff |
| 07:51.00 | Tekkub | nothin I still have my same bear since lv10 |
| 07:51.28 | Amarande | hmm |
| 07:51.45 | Amarande | I think I just finished off the last of the horde quests in HF, and yet there's this huge quarter or so of the zone I've never even been to yet |
| 07:51.51 | Amarande | is there just nothing questwise for horde to do there? |
| 07:52.26 | mikma | oh c'mon, why arent there a complete list of events in login listed anywhere |
| 07:52.39 | Tekkub | wiki somewhere |
| 07:52.45 | Tekkub | but chat's well after those |
| 07:52.59 | Tekkub | and varries if you're on a fresh login or a reload, I believe |
| 07:53.09 | Amarande | oh, s***. |
| 07:53.10 | mikma | i kinda need both |
| 07:53.26 | Amarande | I seem to have fallen down onto a ledge that's going to require some fancy footwork to get off of alive ... |
| 07:53.29 | mikma | just to see what event matches in both |
| 07:54.03 | Tekkub | I don't think there is a match |
| 07:54.04 | mikma | ineed some event that gets fired when your char is 100% ready to be played |
| 07:54.09 | Tekkub | playing with chat is not fun |
| 07:54.15 | Tekkub | there is none |
| 07:54.34 | Arrowmaster | mikma: like do you expect joining chat to be done before or after that? |
| 07:54.36 | mikma | chat is a bitch |
| 07:54.50 | mikma | arrowmaster: before or after what |
| 07:55.02 | Arrowmaster | the magic event you are looking for |
| 07:55.21 | Tekkub | you could set an onupdate to check for the player moving, then do your stuff and drop the onupdate |
| 07:55.27 | mikma | ok heres the problem. you login while flying with taxiservice |
| 07:55.37 | mikma | channels arent set until you land |
| 07:55.42 | mikma | i fixed that. |
| 07:55.57 | mikma | but now, what if you have 0 channels to join |
| 07:56.13 | Arrowmaster | youll never fix that |
| 07:56.17 | mikma | there aint no way to detect that, except long long timer |
| 07:56.23 | Arrowmaster | there is no fool proof way to do it |
| 07:56.39 | mikma | i added a 30second timer if all other ways fail |
| 07:57.23 | mikma | "CHANNEL_UI_UPDATE" wont fire either =( |
| 07:58.18 | mikma | arrowmaster: the pastey i linked is the current code, and the chance of people without channels is annoying the hell out of me |
| 07:59.47 | mikma | oh well, a long timer ir asking the current time manually should do it |
| 08:01.05 | Tekkub | god, my server now has <Slash Gloat> and <Slash AFK> |
| 08:01.13 | Tekkub | <Not in the FACE> is still the best |
| 08:01.42 | mikma | <wut> rules |
| 08:02.11 | Tekkub | heh |
| 08:02.41 | Adys | you cant have - in guildnames :( |
| 08:02.42 | Adys | fails |
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| 08:02.53 | Adys | I wanted <Alt-Left Click For Feedback> |
| 08:03.11 | Tekkub | <Right click to attack>? |
| 08:03.17 | Adys | pve serv |
| 08:03.59 | TC-Away | Shipping is Only $0.00 |
| 08:03.59 | TC-Away | Shipping price to Canada is $30.00 |
| 08:03.59 | TC-Away | Local pick-up price is $145.00 |
| 08:04.06 | Thunder_Child | Fail ^^ |
| 08:04.38 | Tekkub | Adys, <It burns when I PvP> then |
| 08:04.51 | Adys | so cliche |
| 08:05.00 | Adys | mine's a ptr guild |
| 08:05.12 | Thunder_Child | that name worked so well for brightwizards |
| 08:05.40 | Tekkub | hrm... ptr... |
| 08:06.01 | Tekkub | <is a clone> |
| 08:06.25 | Tekkub | <Premade from recycled content> |
| 08:06.57 | Adys | <PH Texture> |
| 08:07.14 | Tekkub | <NYI> |
| 08:07.29 | Tekkub | <Working as intended> |
| 08:07.33 | Adys | you cant have numbers in guildnames that also fails a lot |
| 08:07.41 | Adys | I wanted <PH MODEL TASK 20038> |
| 08:08.52 | Tekkub | <Hiding from my real guild> |
| 08:09.37 | Tekkub | heh, go go phasing |
| 08:09.47 | Tekkub | sitting in Wintergarde watching a gnome fight nothing |
| 08:09.49 | Thunder_Child | *snicker* the guild name for the next expansion should be <Cairen Fan Club> |
| 08:10.00 | Tekkub | it was kicking his ass too |
| 08:11.46 | Tekkub | <Cair bear stare> |
| 08:12.11 | Adys | <Cair Bare Stairs> ? |
| 08:12.41 | Tekkub | <I like cheese> |
| 08:13.25 | Adys | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7373048918&sid=1 |
| 08:13.26 | Adys | wtf ? |
| 08:14.19 | Tekkub | I want those 20 sec of my life back |
| 08:15.05 | Cairenn | NO |
| 08:16.06 | mikma | WHY NOT? |
| 08:16.17 | Tekkub | <Cairbearback> |
| 08:16.26 | Cairenn | nonononono! |
| 08:16.38 | Tekkub | <Cair square hair> ? |
| 08:16.41 | Cairenn | no |
| 08:16.59 | mikma | <I blame Cairenn> |
| 08:17.01 | Tekkub | <Cair lair dare> ? |
| 08:17.19 | Adys | <Fair Lair Maire> ? |
| 08:17.23 | Tekkub | <Cair mare nair> |
| 08:17.37 | Tekkub | <Nair Cair's Hair>!!!! |
| 08:17.41 | mikma | <We want +o too> |
| 08:17.52 | Tekkub | <can has ops> |
| 08:17.57 | Cairenn | :p |
| 08:18.08 | mikma | loloooooo |
| 08:18.12 | Tekkub | <Where Cair? There!> |
| 08:18.17 | mikma | <Global Coders> |
| 08:18.31 | Thunder_Child | <All Promise No Bite> |
| 08:18.39 | Cairenn | have I mentioned lately that it's a good thing I love you guys? |
| 08:18.46 | Amarande | :) |
| 08:18.49 | Amarande | How was the holiday, by the way? |
| 08:19.00 | Tekkub | <There there Cair> |
| 08:19.01 | Cairenn | pretty good, yourself? |
| 08:19.07 | Thunder_Child | -"@Cairenn: have I mentioned lately that I hate you guys and you're all evil?" |
| 08:19.17 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: heh |
| 08:19.20 | Amarande | pretty good :) |
| 08:19.21 | Thunder_Child | the 2 seem to clash |
| 08:19.31 | Thunder_Child | just a tad |
| 08:19.59 | Tekkub | <Fair Cair Snare> |
| 08:20.07 | Tekkub | I'm running out of rhymes |
| 08:20.12 | Thunder_Child | though so far nothing tops -"@Cairenn: /join #wow-bdsm" |
| 08:20.19 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 08:20.53 | mikma | cool |
| 08:21.05 | Tekkub | <Rare Pair Cair> |
| 08:21.28 | mikma | lol |
| 08:21.30 | Cairenn | hey now, I haven't put on THAT much weight! |
| 08:21.46 | Cairenn | I am _not_ pear shaped :p |
| 08:21.57 | mikma | i would call pair the others... |
| 08:21.58 | Aiiane | <Cairenn> have I mentioned lately that it's a good thing I love you guys? |
| 08:22.04 | Aiiane | you weren't here for the earlier conversation |
| 08:22.34 | Thunder_Child | she would have loved it Aiiane |
| 08:22.38 | Tekkub | <Fair Pear Cair> |
| 08:22.50 | Cairenn | do I even want to know? |
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| 08:22.58 | Thunder_Child | nothin says fun like a buttplug convo involving Tekkub |
| 08:23.08 | Cairenn | ah |
| 08:23.15 | Tekkub | I'm telling you, just looks like you're shitting hair! |
| 08:23.31 | Thunder_Child | and i'm telling you you are not supposed to stand up |
| 08:23.35 | mikma | ponytail buttplug? |
| 08:23.59 | Thunder_Child | more like a horse tail |
| 08:24.02 | Tekkub | thun wants a foxtail, but he tires to play it off af if he's showing me it |
| 08:24.03 | Thunder_Child | or fox |
| 08:24.17 | pastamancer | I'm going to go cry now |
| 08:24.18 | mikma | oh that fluffy |
| 08:24.30 | mikma | might be a bitch to wash tho |
| 08:24.46 | Tekkub | so I guess those just look like you tried to shove a fox up your ass head first |
| 08:24.46 | Thunder_Child | hardly Tekkub, i just find the short bear one unentertaining |
| 08:25.18 | Aiiane | i shouldn't have brought it up :/ |
| 08:25.22 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:25.41 | Adys | Aiiane: and you were perfectly aware of this before starting it up |
| 08:25.48 | Adys | so I have reasons to believe you did that on purpose! |
| 08:26.04 | Aiiane | no, its 3:25am and i wasnt thinking -_- |
| 08:26.22 | Cairenn | meh, convo's like that don't bug me, it's just Tekkub being his normal weird self :p |
| 08:26.30 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 08:26.32 | mikma | the plain buttplug i get, even the ponytail made from plastic-strings. but foxtail goes out of the league |
| 08:26.40 | Adys | Cairenn: having had to parse purl logs of pre 2007, i noticed |
| 08:26.50 | Cairenn | Adys: why? |
| 08:27.07 | Corrodias | wait, gimme a link. what's so different about the fox version? |
| 08:27.17 | mikma | i mean c'mon, it'll just end up being dirty and cleaning it will be a problem |
| 08:27.19 | Tekkub | it's realistic |
| 08:27.26 | Corrodias | i'm not really familiar with foxes |
| 08:27.31 | Tekkub | mikma, yea cleaning came up |
| 08:27.32 | Thunder_Child | Aiiane, 3:25? |
| 08:27.32 | Adys | Cairenn: was trying to find when a friend came in the channel for the first time and I ended up finding tons of convos about scaring your kids for life |
| 08:27.38 | Cairenn | ah |
| 08:27.45 | Corrodias | i'm sure you're advised to clean all of them regardless of style |
| 08:28.18 | Amarande | when it comes to the interactions between men and women, why bother with clean? that just makes things less fun LOL |
| 08:28.29 | mikma | yeah but fluffy hair covered in goo is really hard to clean |
| 08:28.48 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, go do a google search, it's not hard to find one |
| 08:28.59 | Amarande | oy, I just got to dalaran for the first time and my PC feels like a Commodore 64 |
| 08:29.01 | Thunder_Child | or 50 |
| 08:29.04 | mikma | you cant just wash that, it'll still stay |
| 08:29.12 | Corrodias | saying it's fluffy is sufficient. okay, they must have a recommendation for a way of cleaning them, though. |
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| 08:29.18 | Corrodias | it would be silly to sell a product like that it they didn't |
| 08:29.36 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, or make it cheap enough to be one time use |
| 08:29.50 | mikma | yeah, cheap |
| 08:30.03 | Corrodias | pretty damn cheap... |
| 08:30.03 | mikma | "oh snap" it snapped in you" |
| 08:30.23 | mikma | "now how do we get it out" |
| 08:31.42 | Adys | http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-license-license-to-kill |
| 08:32.01 | Adys | is that old? |
| 08:32.41 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:32.47 | Adys | how old? |
| 08:32.52 | Arrowmaster | very |
| 08:33.05 | Arrowmaster | fishing has always effected your melee attacks with a fishing pole |
| 08:33.14 | Arrowmaster | same with skinning and a skinning knife |
| 08:33.33 | Adys | he seems to be saying its all melee attacks |
| 08:33.35 | Adys | not only fishing pole |
| 08:33.36 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: for which reason I've suggested the Strong Fishing Pole as the best weapon for lowbies |
| 08:33.48 | Arrowmaster | no its only for fishing pole |
| 08:33.54 | Adys | hm ok |
| 08:34.05 | Adys | The More You Know⢠I guess |
| 08:34.19 | mikma | you want more crit% ? get skinning |
| 08:35.50 | Amarande | wtf |
| 08:35.54 | Amarande | there is a mount that costs 19K gold |
| 08:36.04 | mikma | yes |
| 08:36.12 | Arrowmaster | old |
| 08:36.12 | mikma | it has vendors riding it |
| 08:36.29 | mikma | one sells food/water/reagents |
| 08:36.39 | mikma | other repairs and sells arrows |
| 08:37.08 | mikma | the mount itself is an achievement |
| 08:37.35 | mikma | you can also dump the vendors and pick your friends to rife with you |
| 08:38.15 | mikma | amarande: gets alot cheaper with reputation |
| 08:40.15 | Amarande | hm |
| 08:40.25 | Amarande | where in dalaran are the portals? |
| 08:40.29 | Amarande | like, the ones to shattrath etc. |
| 08:41.31 | mikma | two places |
| 08:41.40 | mikma | one for horde one for alliance |
| 08:42.00 | mikma | alliance portals are in silve something, south of dalaran |
| 08:42.27 | mikma | horde prtals are north of dalaran (dunno where, cant access the are with alliance) |
| 08:42.54 | mikma | lots of typos. gnä |
| 08:44.14 | Aiiane | Thunder_Child: what about it |
| 08:49.43 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, it's actually 20k gold, you just have a small faction discount :) |
| 08:53.59 | Amarande | by the way, how do you use the vendors? |
| 08:54.02 | Amarande | it just occurred to me that ... |
| 08:54.15 | Amarande | if you dismount to use the vendor, they'll despawn, no? |
| 08:57.00 | Adys | .. you dont dismount |
| 08:57.24 | Adys | you just right click the vendor |
| 08:57.54 | Amarande | hm, I should get this mount |
| 08:58.05 | Amarande | no more having to go find a repair place :) |
| 08:58.26 | Amarande | no more full inventory requiring me to ditch stuff to carry quest stuff ... |
| 08:58.27 | Adys | it'd be more useful with a mailbox on its head |
| 09:00.32 | ZorbaTHut | adys, that's what the engineer portable mailbox is for ;) |
| 09:00.51 | Adys | cooldown and charges |
| 09:01.04 | ZorbaTHut | cooldown, no charges |
| 09:01.18 | Adys | oh |
| 09:01.28 | Adys | 1 day cd wasnt it? |
| 09:02.04 | ZorbaTHut | yeah :( |
| 09:03.58 | Corrodias | sure, make it less useful with a ridiculous cooldown |
| 09:03.59 | Corrodias | WHY NOT LOL |
| 09:22.22 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 09:22.23 | purl | ~pong |
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| 09:38.24 | Cidan | ~ping |
| 09:38.24 | purl | ~pong |
| 09:38.29 | Cidan | ~pong |
| 09:38.30 | purl | ~ping |
| 09:38.33 | Cidan | lol |
| 09:57.13 | Aiiane | ~pingpong Cidan |
| 09:57.14 | purl | ACTION hits Cidan in the face with a thousand ping-pong balls |
| 09:59.15 | Cidan | D= |
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| 10:40.25 | Tekkub | aw blizzy sucks |
| 10:40.34 | Tekkub | "Take Their Rear!" used to be named "Bear-back" |
| 10:40.40 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.41 | Fisker- | y helo thar |
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| 11:03.57 | sylvanaar | they still have bear-back tho |
| 11:04.21 | sylvanaar | i just did a quest with that in the name |
| 11:05.07 | sylvanaar | i think its called "going bear back" or something |
| 11:14.44 | Codayus | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=12851 |
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| 11:22.46 | sylvanaar | thats the one |
| 11:23.42 | sylvanaar | so was the one where you fight hand to hand while riding on a flying mount |
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| 11:28.41 | Fisker- | that quest was UNBEARable in beta sylvanaar |
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| 11:30.36 | sylvanaar | i instanced to 80 on beta |
| 11:31.10 | Fisker- | cheater |
| 11:31.11 | sylvanaar | i dont like solo questing really |
| 11:31.25 | sylvanaar | i cheated on beta, but i was already 80 |
| 11:31.39 | sylvanaar | who didnt, that was the best part |
| 11:32.10 | sylvanaar | doomkins - i took the day off work |
| 11:33.16 | sylvanaar | honestly the single most fun thing i did ever in wow |
| 11:34.36 | Gnarfoz | what was? |
| 11:34.50 | sylvanaar | typhoon bug on beta |
| 11:35.47 | sylvanaar | the stupid melee bugs were lame, 1 hit kill bosses for 10million hp white damage |
| 11:36.37 | sylvanaar | typhoon you just walked into the room and everything froze in the air and died |
| 11:37.17 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 11:37.22 | sylvanaar | no gcd on the spell |
| 11:37.50 | sylvanaar | that means you could cast it as fast as you could send the commands in |
| 11:38.12 | sylvanaar | 100x / sec |
| 11:40.26 | Wobin | rofl |
| 11:40.36 | Wobin | that's kinda ridiculous =) |
| 11:40.48 | sylvanaar | it was rediculously fun |
| 11:41.13 | sylvanaar | but, far less severe than the melee bugs |
| 11:41.55 | Wobin | well |
| 11:41.58 | Wobin | with doomkin |
| 11:42.07 | Wobin | you didn't even need to get into melee range and chance getting hit back =) |
| 11:42.16 | Zyndrome | naw, the melee-bugs were fine ... come on, I only oneshotted anyone with a normal white hit :( |
| 11:42.35 | sylvanaar | 1 shot (plus a chaser) heroic malygos |
| 11:42.45 | sylvanaar | since he cant die in phase 1 |
| 11:43.40 | sylvanaar | sartheron with all the drakes...that was funny with the melee bug |
| 11:43.57 | sylvanaar | the drakes were like wtf |
| 11:45.14 | sylvanaar | really noone could hit you back either |
| 11:45.55 | sylvanaar | because they were already dead |
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| 11:46.45 | sylvanaar | but the inner courtyard in wintergrasp was a blast |
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| 11:47.01 | Joeba18 | Shirik you here? |
| 11:48.25 | Joeba18 | any mod here? |
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| 12:11.29 | matt1s | Is http://www.wowmatrix.com/ safe? A friend of mine talked about it yesterday, never heard of it before |
| 12:12.00 | nevcairiel | its probably safe, but they steal bandwidth of other pages like Curse and WoWI |
| 12:12.08 | nevcairiel | so, we all hate it here |
| 12:13.21 | matt1s | oh |
| 12:17.15 | Nom- | actually it's not about bandwidth i don't think |
| 12:17.54 | nevcairiel | the bandwidth is a part of it |
| 12:18.01 | Nom- | They're basically redistributing WoW addons |
| 12:18.15 | nevcairiel | they use other pages bandwidth, but dont show their ads |
| 12:18.21 | nevcairiel | in fact, they even earn money on their own ads |
| 12:18.25 | nevcairiel | and other peoples bandwidth |
| 12:18.29 | Nom- | The authors and the sites which host the addons legitimately are losing out on banner income |
| 12:19.53 | Nom- | It's unforunate too, because they actually have a good product |
| 12:20.07 | Nom- | If they did the right thing by authors and add-on sites, it'd be good |
| 12:20.32 | Nom- | They're one of the few services which actually combines the 3 main addon sites into one single application |
| 12:20.38 | Nom- | Makes the lives of end users easier |
| 12:29.38 | Mundy- | does anyone else get huge lag during boxx fights in naxx |
| 12:29.42 | Mundy- | er |
| 12:29.42 | Mundy- | boss* |
| 12:29.49 | Mundy- | and not every boss, just random ones |
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| 12:54.47 | Nom- | nope, no lag |
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| 13:08.42 | sylvanaar | do they show authors donate buttons? |
| 13:09.30 | nevcairiel | wowmatrix? i highly doubt it |
| 13:09.32 | sylvanaar | that's worthy of a war |
| 13:09.58 | sylvanaar | not that ppl actually donate, but the loss is perceieved and personal |
| 13:10.52 | sylvanaar | unlike a site-to-site war |
| 13:11.15 | cbreak | referrer checking? |
| 13:12.09 | sylvanaar | addon sites could stop it im sure - just ask the porn sites how |
| 13:12.17 | cbreak | no prob |
| 13:12.20 | cbreak | mt... |
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| 13:13.24 | nevcairiel | a standalone client can forge about anything |
| 13:13.33 | nevcairiel | referrer is one of the easier things to forge |
| 13:14.27 | cbreak | yes. but web pages can't easily do |
| 13:16.45 | Gnarfoz | and wowmatrix is the former, not the latter. |
| 13:20.28 | cbreak | mandatory registration is the only thing I can think of that doesn't make the sites completely worthless for legitimate users also |
| 13:21.05 | foxlit | Step 1: Make a better automatic updater. |
| 13:21.07 | foxlit | Step 2: ??? |
| 13:21.10 | foxlit | Step 3: Profit. |
| 13:21.23 | cbreak | no profit! |
| 13:22.08 | nevcairiel | registrations or captchas would both work, but both work against userfriendlyness |
| 13:22.58 | foxlit | you mean "and" rather than "or" |
| 13:23.11 | foxlit | Otherwise, say hello to lots of junk accounts. |
| 13:23.27 | nevcairiel | captchas on registrations are a given |
| 13:23.37 | nevcairiel | but captchas on downloads are another way, but heavly unfriendly |
| 13:23.39 | foxlit | And even then, there's a big "if" on whether they'd be effective. |
| 13:24.52 | cbreak | I wonder if this client supports ssl or ftp |
| 13:26.24 | nevcairiel | even if not, wouldnt be too long until it does |
| 13:27.06 | [dRaCo] | ftp with user accounts would work, though |
| 13:28.07 | cbreak | or just make your own client (maybe java webstart) with a secure client side ssl cert |
| 13:28.29 | foxlit | And that'll be the day I'll stop supporting your site :) |
| 13:28.37 | foxlit | Or, well, publishing to it :) |
| 13:28.38 | cbreak | (which is obfuscated to prevent reverse engineering) |
| 13:29.02 | cbreak | oh, I would too... :) |
| 13:29.09 | nevcairiel | iirc, shirik was working on some shit for wowi too |
| 13:29.25 | cbreak | I stopped uploading regularly to curse too, when they switched to that clunky curse forge thing |
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| 13:29.51 | cbreak | wowinterface is at least fast, non-crappy and not plastered with adds and graphics. |
| 13:35.01 | Gnarfoz | how is curseforge clunky? xD |
| 13:35.08 | Gnarfoz | it's way more complete than wowi's stuff |
| 13:35.29 | Wobin | oh dear god |
| 13:35.30 | Wobin | http://www.sheezyart.com/view/1616035/ |
| 13:35.35 | Wobin | if you have the next 10 hours free |
| 13:35.41 | Wobin | Super Mario 63 |
| 13:36.07 | Gnarfoz | Time Taken: Less Than 2 Years |
| 13:36.34 | cbreak | It's clunky because it has tons of useless stuff strapped on everywhere |
| 13:36.43 | cbreak | I even had to enable java script to be able to navigate it |
| 13:36.49 | cbreak | if that's not bad, then what is |
| 13:37.22 | Gnarfoz | tons of [...] everywhere |
| 13:37.29 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 13:37.45 | Gnarfoz | also, that might even be accurate for CF, wowace's skin of it is better, IMHO ^^ |
| 13:37.48 | zenzelezz | I'm with cbreak on this one; but I'd say it's merely a matter of opinion |
| 14:04.27 | Fisker- | ah this is bullshit :E |
| 14:04.48 | Fisker- | Mandokir keeps using guilotine with threatening gaze even though i didn't do shit |
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| 14:24.18 | foxlit | You're a paladin |
| 14:24.21 | foxlit | And you're Fisker- |
| 14:24.30 | foxlit | And you still contend that you didn't do a shit? |
| 14:25.44 | MattBnr | im new to lua (programming at all really) and i want to add mouse over text to a button in game how do i go about that? |
| 14:33.54 | nevcairiel | a tooltip? |
| 14:34.28 | nevcairiel | Setup a OnEnter script, fill GameTooltip with your text, voila |
| 14:36.25 | MattBnr | ok how do i go about doing that? remember i have not done this before |
| 14:36.37 | MattBnr | is there a guide i can read that will help me ? |
| 14:37.51 | Cide | ~wowprogramming |
| 14:37.52 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 14:39.38 | MattBnr | well i dont want to buy the book |
| 14:43.44 | Cide | too bad |
| 14:45.44 | MattBnr | thansk ill figure it out on my own |
| 14:59.17 | Sam-L | nah |
| 14:59.21 | Sam-L | buying a book is overrated |
| 14:59.25 | Sam-L | at least for this sheet |
| 14:59.35 | Sam-L | lua isn't terrible to master |
| 14:59.45 | Sam-L | just look for other code that does what you want to do and use that as much as possible |
| 15:00.14 | Sam-L | and honestly the luawiki has a lot of info |
| 15:04.33 | cbreak | the lua manual is rather comprehensive for the language |
| 15:04.41 | cbreak | and wowwiki has a lot about the api |
| 15:10.12 | Sam-L | meh |
| 15:10.35 | Sam-L | i've found wowprogramming's online reference very good as well |
| 15:11.52 | MattBnr | i got it figured out. thanks though |
| 15:16.16 | Sam-L | ok |
| 15:16.17 | Sam-L | good shit |
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| 15:24.42 | mikma | gnarfoz: who you gonna for? ghostbusteeeeeers! |
| 15:29.38 | Gnarfoz | mikma: what. that's wrong :O |
| 16:01.08 | foxlit | "The air is too thin for normal flight" |
| 16:01.14 | foxlit | Tell that to my bone gryphon, you silly debuff |
| 16:01.23 | foxlit | That thing can't fly even if the air was solid :/ |
| 16:05.03 | mikma | gnarfoz: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11940-WintergraspTimer.html#comments |
| 16:05.18 | mikma | gnarfoz: for=fork :D small keyboard strikes again |
| 16:05.54 | nevcairiel | the real string is "who you gonna call?" anyway |
| 16:06.34 | mikma | oh really? |
| 16:07.13 | mikma | where do you think i was aiming with the "who you gonna fork?" (with typo turning it into for) |
| 16:07.39 | nevcairiel | your eye with a fork? |
| 16:07.57 | mikma | sure, why not. |
| 16:14.18 | mikma | Mircsker- |
| 16:14.29 | foxlit | # And if they're not sold yet... Diagnostic and Recovery Toolset. |
| 16:14.57 | Fisker- | Why so serious? |
| 16:15.38 | Sam-L | what are you? gay? |
| 16:15.54 | nevcairiel | Fisker- is all sorts of things |
| 16:16.07 | Sam-L | turns out a cocksucker is one of them |
| 16:16.31 | foxlit | Can we kick people for being mean to resident trolls for no reason? |
| 16:16.42 | Sam-L | No, you don't have op |
| 16:16.47 | Sam-L | or hap |
| 16:16.49 | Sam-L | er hop |
| 16:17.00 | foxlit | Hence "we" not "I" |
| 16:17.05 | mikma | but the great eye is still watching |
| 16:17.19 | Sam-L | Lol |
| 16:17.25 | mikma | just because foxlit doesn't have @, that doesn't mean people can't get booted |
| 16:17.32 | Sam-L | This is of course true |
| 16:17.47 | Sam-L | Anyway, off to do other things |
| 16:20.55 | foxlit | # When they see the imporvements in security, the desktop and mobility... and productivity... |
| 16:23.55 | foxlit | # They'll say "Vista, gotta get me some!" |
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| 18:09.31 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I am, though it will work not only for wowi but rather any site that has a module for it |
| 18:09.42 | Shirik | It's a modular application that can support any site |
| 18:09.53 | Shirik | I also think I'm going to write an svn and a git module |
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| 18:14.24 | sylvanaar | what an updater? |
| 18:15.15 | mikma | so, solutions needed. |
| 18:15.38 | mikma | Wintergrasp Timer. use global channel to broadcast/request time, or just stick with guild/party/raid |
| 18:15.57 | mikma | obviously either one i pick will be wrong |
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| 18:16.40 | mikma | i was thinking about a library that could handle all that stuff |
| 18:16.42 | zenzelezz | let them choose one or both |
| 18:17.47 | mikma | something like broadcast("message",style) |
| 18:17.53 | sylvanaar | turn both off, let them turn them on |
| 18:18.03 | mikma | where style would be raid,party,guild,global,whisper with arg |
| 18:18.23 | mikma | no wait, broadcast(identify,message,style) sounds better |
| 18:18.36 | sylvanaar | the only one you dont already have is global |
| 18:19.38 | mikma | yeah but that would require me to code options, and i have absolutely no idea how to do it |
| 18:19.50 | mikma | i would rather use blizz gui for that stuff than code my own |
| 18:20.00 | sylvanaar | they should put that shit in the worlddefense channel wherever that went |
| 18:20.07 | mikma | uh |
| 18:20.14 | mikma | worlddefense addon-messaage |
| 18:20.22 | sylvanaar | no, the emote |
| 18:20.32 | sylvanaar | from the npcs |
| 18:20.37 | mikma | that would also rule |
| 18:20.51 | mikma | oh well. i don't know :I |
| 18:22.33 | Shirik | sylvanaar: It does a little more than that, but yes |
| 18:24.17 | zenzelezz | I'll complete Northrend Gourmet before I ever see the stupid Chocolate Cake recipe |
| 18:24.37 | sylvanaar | Shirik more than what? |
| 18:24.49 | Shirik | than just an updater |
| 18:24.57 | Iriel | zenzelezz: My wife got that today, on her 2nd day in Dalaran 8-( |
| 18:25.04 | Fisker- | hey zenzelezz |
| 18:25.12 | Fisker- | do you have the chocolate cake recipe? |
| 18:25.16 | Fisker- | Like i got like on the first day? |
| 18:25.28 | sylvanaar | Shirik i was asking what it was you were talking about |
| 18:25.32 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:25.40 | nevcairiel | we should brike Shirik to kick Fisker- again |
| 18:25.40 | zenzelezz | Fisker-: no, they're making me wait since I'm not as awesome as you |
| 18:25.43 | nevcairiel | *bribe |
| 18:25.43 | Shirik | well right now I have 4 services defined; I might come up with more |
| 18:25.54 | Shirik | updating obviously, news, backup, and configuration |
| 18:26.08 | Shirik | Each module can support any or all of them |
| 18:26.32 | Shirik | (And then each module in addition to the core is updated automatically, though the module doesn't have to support that if it doesn't wish to) |
| 18:26.49 | sylvanaar | cool - written in what? |
| 18:26.56 | Shirik | Java, please don't kill me |
| 18:27.00 | sylvanaar | im going to |
| 18:27.10 | Shirik | It was by far the easiest way to do this and keep it platform-independent |
| 18:27.15 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 18:27.17 | Shirik | OSGi is amazing |
| 18:27.26 | zenzelezz | we talked Shirik out of using Fortran, but Java was a far as we could get him to go |
| 18:27.33 | sylvanaar | Asuzre is too |
| 18:27.42 | sylvanaar | im playing with that atm |
| 18:28.06 | Shirik | what's that? |
| 18:28.11 | Thrae | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468250,00.html <-- here's Adolf Hitler when he was 3 years old! |
| 18:28.24 | Shirik | googling talks about the color |
| 18:28.24 | sylvanaar | its MS's cloud .net services thingy |
| 18:28.28 | Shirik | ah |
| 18:29.00 | zenzelezz | Iriel: since you're like the guru, I don't suppose you know of some way to figure out the buff ID of a buff on a unit? (or spell ID, whatever it'd be called) |
| 18:29.06 | foxlit | Thrae: "Hey, let's name our child Adolf Hitler Blah!" |
| 18:29.07 | Shirik | Thrae: Is that why he got so angry? |
| 18:29.17 | foxlit | Like that totally won't cause any issues |
| 18:29.44 | Iriel | zenzelezz: I'm not sure what you mean 8-) |
| 18:29.54 | Thrae | foxlit: "The Campbells' other two children also have unusual names: JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell turns 2 in a few months and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell will be 1 in April." |
| 18:30.07 | Shirik | wtf is with people like that |
| 18:30.22 | sylvanaar | man |
| 18:31.01 | zenzelezz | Iriel: well, basically I'd love to be able to distinguish the dozens of "Well Fed" from each other; but as far as I can see there's no way to determine their ID (like the 57079 for http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57079 ) |
| 18:31.05 | sylvanaar | oh Shirik, make an error reporting service too |
| 18:31.09 | sylvanaar | !! |
| 18:31.24 | Shirik | how would you go about collecting errors? |
| 18:31.40 | Shirik | but that I do agree is a good idea |
| 18:31.45 | sylvanaar | well, thats the tricky part |
| 18:32.03 | Iriel | zenzelezz: Hm, you could start by looking at the combat log events, but you'd need to present at time of cast |
| 18:32.16 | foxlit | zenzelezz: tooltips |
| 18:32.19 | foxlit | Or not |
| 18:32.20 | sylvanaar | i speced out something at one point |
| 18:32.35 | foxlit | or yes. |
| 18:32.40 | Shirik | Well one thing at a time :) I need to actually write the wowi modules so I can get an alpha release before winter break is over |
| 18:32.42 | foxlit | The description text varies. |
| 18:32.55 | sylvanaar | really, you can just grab some common bugcatcher sv's along with addons.txt |
| 18:32.57 | Iriel | and yes, tooltips, that's about all you have |
| 18:32.58 | zenzelezz | foxlit: yeah, that's what I'm doing now, but I'd have preferred to only have the ID |
| 18:33.01 | foxlit | You could build a map of texts -> spell IDs and then use that map to resolve the description text of an individual buff back to an ID |
| 18:33.17 | foxlit | Petition for a spellId return on UnitAura, go ?:) |
| 18:33.33 | zenzelezz | I basically have a table with the spell IDs now, and OnLoad I iterate over them using GetSpellInfo() |
| 18:33.59 | zenzelezz | that helps for scrolls, which have ranks |
| 18:34.19 | zenzelezz | but for Well Fed I'm stuck storing the text extracted from the tooltip |
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| 18:35.58 | sylvanaar | like you can start off just collecting top-of-stack errors and showing a top 10 on your site |
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| 18:37.13 | Iriel | I can see that being very contentious without some mechanism for fully anonymizing them |
| 18:37.15 | sylvanaar | the tin foil hat folks |
| 18:37.23 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know |
| 18:37.52 | sylvanaar | this is why i didnt go any further |
| 18:38.02 | Fisker- | http://rapidshare.com/files/177610712/lag.wmv.html |
| 18:38.04 | Fisker- | fu! |
| 18:38.15 | sylvanaar | but the idea itself is sound |
| 18:38.35 | Shirik | I think it's a great idea sylvanaar |
| 18:38.47 | Shirik | I just don't know how to go about implementing it |
| 18:38.51 | sylvanaar | me either |
| 18:39.06 | Shirik | I could always write the interface and no modules, and then you can go ahead and write the module if you want ^_^ |
| 18:39.25 | foxlit | Meh, and after you write it, it'll become a race to abuse it :P |
| 18:40.24 | sylvanaar | Shirik heres the thread about it http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14479 |
| 18:40.39 | Fisker- | Oh and you know something is wrong when the "living" side of gothik wipes before the undead one |
| 18:40.45 | sylvanaar | haha |
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| 18:41.24 | sylvanaar | that was a fun fight with a doomkin |
| 18:41.48 | sylvanaar | just stay on one side |
| 18:42.08 | Shirik | Maybe it would be its own addon, sylvanaar |
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| 18:42.29 | Fisker- | it's like fucking impossible on 25-man sylvanaar :P |
| 18:42.42 | sylvanaar | Fisker- DOOMKIN (beta bug) |
| 18:42.49 | foxlit | sylvanaar: That poll is sorely missing "ZOMG BAD IDEA GO DIE" options. |
| 18:43.53 | sylvanaar | ill quote myself "Still on the fence about it personally. it has potential, but at the same time, its one of those "low reward" efforts to provide a service to developers who at best dont really care, and at worst are hostile towards it, and users who the usuall people will try to convince that its spyware. |
| 18:44.07 | Fisker- | ah |
| 18:44.47 | Iriel | Shirik: Glad to hear OSGi is working out for you, are you going to write an autoupdater for the updater itself? |
| 18:44.53 | Shirik | already did :) |
| 18:45.01 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 18:45.14 | Shirik | Though the way I did it is fairly... stupid |
| 18:45.19 | sylvanaar | doesnt java have its own? |
| 18:45.23 | zenzelezz | "Machines hacking machines..." |
| 18:45.43 | Shirik | I just download a jar which is executed in a separate process. That jar waits for the updater to shut down, then replaces the appropriate files |
| 18:46.09 | Iriel | ah,. not quite so cool then 8-) |
| 18:46.21 | sylvanaar | eek |
| 18:46.29 | Shirik | Yeah it's the only abstracted way I could think of doing it, since the core doesn't run in OSGi |
| 18:46.30 | Iriel | If wowi have an SSL cert the whole thing could be a java webstart app |
| 18:46.42 | nevcairiel | eww |
| 18:46.44 | Shirik | heh, I don't know enough about JWS I think |
| 18:46.46 | nevcairiel | java webstart |
| 18:46.49 | Iriel | it's dead easy |
| 18:46.58 | nevcairiel | sad panda is sad about those words |
| 18:47.04 | sylvanaar | you have to sign code that autoupdates over the internet |
| 18:47.14 | zenzelezz | couldn't you do something like the Blizzard launcher? Just have your "updater" spawn the actual updater, gives you enough time to download a new version first if there is one |
| 18:47.23 | Iriel | i love jws |
| 18:47.45 | sylvanaar | i like MS clickonce lol |
| 18:48.30 | Sam-L | The system as it is now works fine... why not leave it? |
| 18:48.51 | sylvanaar | which |
| 18:49.03 | Sam-L | Manual updating and manual bug reporting |
| 18:49.33 | sylvanaar | you fail at nerd sam |
| 18:49.37 | Sam-L | Not really |
| 18:49.54 | foxlit | If by "fine" you mean "sort of", then you can generally be agreed with. |
| 18:50.06 | foxlit | I'm sure a large percentage of the user base simply ignore any errors they encounter. |
| 18:50.10 | Sam-L | I do |
| 18:50.14 | sylvanaar | they do |
| 18:50.21 | Sam-L | I delete that shit and get a new mod that isn't as much suck |
| 18:50.30 | Shirik | zenzelezz: That's what I'm doing |
| 18:50.30 | Sam-L | Or don't use mods? |
| 18:50.36 | sylvanaar | right |
| 18:50.41 | foxlit | What if it's some minor issue? |
| 18:50.49 | Sam-L | who cares |
| 18:50.54 | Sam-L | i don't want to spend time fixing it |
| 18:50.54 | Iriel | also, just because some folks CAN manually update doesn't mean they want to |
| 18:50.56 | foxlit | The authors do. |
| 18:50.57 | Sam-L | or wait on someone else to do so? |
| 18:51.07 | foxlit | Can't fix what you don't know about. |
| 18:51.14 | mikma | sylvanaar: so, got time to create me a smart way to broadcast stuff? :I |
| 18:51.18 | foxlit | And since you cba to report it, we're stuck in a loop of mediocrity. |
| 18:51.20 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Except I'm not as strict as Blizzard :) I have two types of updates, "critical" and "noncritical" |
| 18:51.20 | zenzelezz | Shirik: in that case I misunderstood your explanation; it sounded like you meant something slightly different |
| 18:51.29 | Shirik | noncritical updates aren't required to be downloaded, critical are |
| 18:51.49 | sylvanaar | mikma that sounds like just one more thing for me to get beat up over |
| 18:52.01 | Sam-L | I mean ideally if you want such a system implented you would require and in-game component to save error logs. And have a reporting executable running in the background that talks to the server |
| 18:52.14 | mikma | sylvanaar: i had something like this in my mind http://mikma.pastey.net/105168 |
| 18:52.16 | nevcairiel | Sam-L: you dont care about helping the authors fix their issues, and you are obviously no author yoruself, or you would, so ... why again are you here? |
| 18:52.24 | Sam-L | Well I was an author |
| 18:52.30 | Sam-L | I wrote a quick addon that I needed |
| 18:52.30 | sylvanaar | wow - thats exactly what i speced out in the thread i linked Sam-L |
| 18:52.42 | Sam-L | i don't really read things |
| 18:52.44 | Sam-L | but sounds good |
| 18:53.16 | Sam-L | The only time a server would notify a client is critical updates i suppose, otherwise it's a pull down started by the client |
| 18:53.18 | sylvanaar | i love that buff |
| 18:53.29 | sylvanaar | it stacks! |
| 18:53.42 | Sam-L | But why the hell should I let you run anything on my machine? |
| 18:53.48 | Sam-L | that's a fair amount of trust no? |
| 18:54.08 | Sam-L | that's why i don't have the curse addon stuff |
| 18:54.09 | zenzelezz | you don't have to; but if you don't help out, then don't come crying about errors |
| 18:54.10 | Sam-L | or the ACE ones |
| 18:54.11 | sylvanaar | want me to paste the whole thread in |
| 18:54.31 | mikma | sylvanaar: http://mikma.pastey.net/105169 |
| 18:54.45 | Sam-L | zenzelezz, or course |
| 18:55.35 | Sam-L | i don't cry about errors :) |
| 18:55.46 | mikma | sylvanaar: i need your opinion .. do i need to spam errors if user ain't in global channel? |
| 18:57.23 | Fisker- | Anyone got that Kill Bill alert-like thingy tune on a mp3 or something? :P |
| 18:57.41 | sylvanaar | mikma dont even mess with it imo - just do the timer part |
| 18:58.51 | mikma | sylvanaar: well there's some situations where the global channel was not joined. |
| 18:58.59 | mikma | sylvanaar: having full channellist is one of the reason :P |
| 19:03.43 | sylvanaar | mikma yeah, i can still remember those errors from back in the pre-addon channel days |
| 19:04.29 | mikma | what i'll do is spam 4 lines in chat instead of huge errorbox on screen |
| 19:04.35 | Sam-L | Peace cock suckers |
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| 19:05.01 | Cairenn | well that was fun |
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| 19:05.51 | sylvanaar | i was almost up to 5 stacks Cairenn |
| 19:05.58 | Cairenn | I have a pleasant chat with him about the fact that he was a bigoted ass last night and to not do it again, then he freaks out because we respect Blizz's EULA/TOS (re private servers, etc) and leaves |
| 19:05.59 | Shirik | entertains how, zenzelezz? ;) |
| 19:06.13 | zenzelezz | Shirik: that's between me and her |
| 19:06.35 | mikma | cairenn: well lamers don't like to be owned. you owned his ass. |
| 19:06.36 | Cairenn | sylvanaar: 5 stacks of what? |
| 19:07.02 | nevcairiel | Man that guy was weird from the beginning 0P |
| 19:07.11 | sylvanaar | Touched By A Troll |
| 19:07.12 | Cairenn | anyway, from what I've seen of him, he wasn't particularly adding anything of much value to the channel anyway, so |
| 19:07.20 | sylvanaar | its stacks to 5 |
| 19:07.27 | Cairenn | sylvanaar: lol |
| 19:07.52 | Cairenn | my apologies that you guys have had to put up with him for so long - I've been rather distracted of late |
| 19:08.05 | mikma | cairenn: op me and i'll punish every troll! |
| 19:08.11 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:08.17 | mikma | first think after ops i would do is /kick mikma |
| 19:08.54 | sylvanaar | http://thottbot.com/s60518 |
| 19:09.02 | sylvanaar | really it does stack to 5 |
| 19:09.06 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 19:12.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:12.49 | foxlit | Hm, let's see |
| 19:13.10 | foxlit | 450-250 = 200 fishing skill to go |
| 19:13.23 | foxlit | About 6 catches per point at the moment, probably only going to get worse |
| 19:13.30 | sylvanaar | least you got 225 |
| 19:13.35 | sylvanaar | thats the worst |
| 19:13.42 | foxlit | Really? |
| 19:13.52 | foxlit | About 15 seconds per catch |
| 19:13.58 | sylvanaar | the 4 fish from all over the world |
| 19:14.09 | foxlit | lua> return 200*6*15/3600 |
| 19:14.10 | lua_bot | foxlit: 5 |
| 19:14.23 | foxlit | Only five hours, assuming no downtime at all? |
| 19:14.40 | sylvanaar | whats the rush |
| 19:14.40 | foxlit | I have a feeling they nerfed that quest a bit |
| 19:14.54 | foxlit | None, really |
| 19:15.08 | foxlit | Dalaran coins would be exciting, however |
| 19:15.16 | sylvanaar | fishing is boring |
| 19:15.36 | Aiiane | sylvanaar: I didn't find the 4-fish quest all that bad |
| 19:15.46 | sylvanaar | did you play um what was it...Dark um somethint 2 |
| 19:15.54 | Aiiane | especially with a hearthstone to shattrath |
| 19:16.00 | sylvanaar | ps2 game....what was it called |
| 19:16.24 | sylvanaar | Aiiane i did it in 2005 i remember suckage |
| 19:16.39 | Aiiane | dark cloud, sylvanaar ? |
| 19:16.44 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 19:16.47 | sylvanaar | 2 |
| 19:16.55 | sylvanaar | fishing in that game was fun |
| 19:17.17 | foxlit | Think I got 3 of those 4 fish on first cast |
| 19:17.39 | Iriel | foxlit: likewise |
| 19:17.50 | Iriel | foxlit: doesn't make the travel any less annoying |
| 19:17.57 | sylvanaar | well, i was probably level 40ish too |
| 19:18.12 | foxlit | Not actually that bad |
| 19:18.39 | foxlit | Theramore -> Feralas -> Desolace -> Darkshore -> Stormwind -> Nethergarde -> Rebel Camp |
| 19:19.41 | sylvanaar | vs just standing in one spot |
| 19:20.28 | foxlit | Meh, could be worse |
| 19:20.30 | sylvanaar | plus you have to go to that island |
| 19:20.35 | sylvanaar | twice |
| 19:20.42 | foxlit | Path of Frost. |
| 19:20.47 | foxlit | (also gets you to the AQ island) |
| 19:21.13 | Aiiane | I did it on my priest; levitation is handy |
| 19:22.03 | foxlit | Yeah, but then you have to walk |
| 19:22.19 | foxlit | Which I suppose beats swimming |
| 19:22.58 | Aiiane | its fairly quick, most of the islands aren't that far out from some point on land |
| 19:23.30 | sylvanaar | you guys are just being contrary- i have never heard so much love for the fishing quest |
| 19:23.48 | foxlit | Better than the cooking quest! |
| 19:24.47 | foxlit | But I'm way more annoyed at the skill leveling mechanic than at the quest. |
| 19:25.40 | zenzelezz | still better than scouting or camping or whatever it was in SWG |
| 19:25.53 | foxlit | Have a feeling the 1000 fish achievement isn't even going to last me to 300 skill |
| 19:26.37 | Cairenn | it doesn't |
| 19:26.43 | zenzelezz | I wish that one went to 5- and 10k also |
| 19:26.46 | Cairenn | I got it before 250 |
| 19:28.16 | sylvanaar | wierd ultra slow load-in time |
| 19:29.00 | foxlit | gah |
| 19:29.05 | foxlit | /bye Old Ironjaw |
| 19:29.45 | zenzelezz | heh, who was it that was making a warning addon for that just the other day? |
| 19:29.56 | foxlit | I'm sure I'll get him again. |
| 19:30.23 | foxlit | In the ~2000 more catches this'll take |
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| 19:36.31 | Iriel | How stable is the 'beta' auctioneer ? |
| 19:36.46 | mikma | iriel: 'yes' |
| 19:51.29 | Shirik | very, Iriel |
| 19:51.52 | Shirik | In general we try not to commit unles it's in a functional state :) Sometimes that doesn't happen, but in general it's true |
| 19:51.55 | Iriel | I added it to the guild svn, so hopefully you're right 8-) |
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| 19:54.55 | nevcairiel | Shirik has his hands in auctioneer too? |
| 19:55.06 | nevcairiel | i remember once when a RELEASE version had a syntax error in it :) |
| 19:55.08 | nevcairiel | man that was fun! |
| 19:55.17 | mikma | oh fuck this shit, buh bye global channel |
| 19:55.20 | mikma | too much problems |
| 19:55.27 | Shirik | I do a lot of statistics stuff |
| 19:55.40 | Shirik | Specifically I wrote the new integrator that's now in use |
| 19:55.55 | Shirik | This thing: http://wiki.norganna.org/Market_Price |
| 19:57.06 | mikma | make our babies shirik |
| 19:57.12 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 19:58.43 | Iriel | Is there a histogram based statistics module with aging? |
| 19:59.32 | Shirik | the aptly named Stat-Histogram |
| 19:59.56 | Iriel | According to the wiki: Simply, SHTG provides a median value, based upon all prices ever seen; no data is ever discarded. |
| 19:59.56 | Shirik | actually I don't know if Histogram has aging |
| 19:59.57 | Thunder_Child | thats an odd way of putting it mikma |
| 20:00.07 | Iriel | That would tend to imply no aging |
| 20:00.08 | mikma | thunder_child: why? |
| 20:00.31 | Thunder_Child | mikma, most people would say "have" not "make"...seems like you want him to construct it |
| 20:00.32 | Shirik | Simple calculates a running average with aging, if that's what you're looking for |
| 20:00.45 | Iriel | Also, does anyone know why none of the herb/node icons for northrend have alpha in gatherer? 8-) |
| 20:00.49 | mikma | thunder_child: the making is the best part, not havinh |
| 20:00.50 | Iriel | I wanted a histogram with aging 8-) |
| 20:00.51 | Shirik | I don't particularly like simple though |
| 20:00.53 | Thunder_Child | like "Shirik, build me a baby" |
| 20:01.11 | Shirik | Iriel: you can always request it at jira.norganna.org :) |
| 20:01.21 | Tekkub | ur mom has aging |
| 20:01.24 | Tekkub | sorry, had to |
| 20:01.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Is that like build-a-bear? |
| 20:02.14 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, no...the bears are more expansive |
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| 20:03.03 | Thunder_Child | there is one of thoes bear places at the mall a few blocks away...thoes things are damn expensive |
| 20:03.03 | Tekkub | I like "Stuff your own bear" better than "Build a bear" |
| 20:03.13 | Thunder_Child | those* |
| 20:03.20 | foxlit | Wee, Anub'Rekhan enraged. |
| 20:03.44 | zenzelezz | foxlit: how is that possible? |
| 20:03.48 | foxlit | Timer. |
| 20:04.00 | zenzelezz | did you bring two tanks and 23 healers? |
| 20:04.07 | foxlit | 10 man naxx |
| 20:04.08 | foxlit | pug |
| 20:04.12 | foxlit | You see the picture |
| 20:04.22 | End | wtf sort of dps are you bringing? o_O |
| 20:04.33 | Tekkub | pugged dps |
| 20:04.38 | foxlit | hunter, mage, rogue, DKs |
| 20:06.38 | ZorbaTHut | 700 DPS each or something? |
| 20:07.08 | foxlit | I don't keep count :) |
| 20:07.08 | mikma | tekkub: which one is better? "timerequest" or "canhastimeplz"? :D |
| 20:07.19 | Tekkub | meh? |
| 20:07.37 | Aiiane | gimmetime |
| 20:07.38 | Shadowed | randomize it based on server time |
| 20:09.58 | zenzelezz | "Time for fun!" |
| 20:11.31 | mikma | hoho |
| 20:11.49 | mikma | SendAddonMessage("foo","Time for fun!", "PARTY") |
| 20:11.50 | mikma | sounds cool |
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| 20:16.37 | Amarande | ahhhh Dalaran. the city of magic, earthly delights, and lag. :) |
| 20:17.47 | Amarande | also, yay for not knowing any flight paths connected to this one. :| |
| 20:18.05 | Iriel | Amarande: time to get out there and explore |
| 20:18.21 | Iriel | Amarande: Unless you're far too low a level to be there, in which case, happy portals! |
| 20:21.05 | Amarande | 75 |
| 20:21.20 | Amarande | but of course, I did both BT and HF, neither of which has had a town with a FP that connects with dalaran. :P |
| 20:21.52 | Industrial | </3 dalaran |
| 20:22.05 | Industrial | 13fps for no apparent reason, whereas i get 50-70 normally |
| 20:22.28 | Industrial | i only go there if i have to :P |
| 20:23.56 | Amarande | dalaran seems to be mostly ok for me, except when I first load in during a session |
| 20:24.13 | Amarande | but then, I have 2GB and an ATI 3870 |
| 20:24.16 | mikma | sylvanaar: was it 'timer = timer - elapsed'? :D |
| 20:24.22 | Iriel | It flattens the weaker computer here |
| 20:25.24 | Amarande | the main thing is I've hardly been to dalaran before, so I'm still finding my way around |
| 20:25.39 | Amarande | and for some reason, cartographer is not very reliable at saving POI on the map when you ask a guard about something |
| 20:25.57 | Arrowmaster | its cartographer |
| 20:26.00 | Iriel | I got there for the first time yesterday, though I had all the nearby FP's since I have a tendency to wander around a lot. |
| 20:26.20 | Amarande | I figured I might as well go there and get my hearth set up, since last night I finally finished HF |
| 20:26.25 | Amarande | well, aside from Utgarde |
| 20:26.28 | Amarande | which irritates me |
| 20:26.35 | Amarande | I was going to do all the instance quests in all the instances in Northrend |
| 20:26.44 | Amarande | however, now I'm 75 and have to find a NORMAL UK group at some point |
| 20:27.05 | Amarande | because, according to wowhead, at least one of the normal UK quests won't work on heroic if I just wait till 80 and do it then |
| 20:27.31 | Amarande | and apparently, this is -intended- |
| 20:27.39 | Amarande | Blizzard is trying to force the normal mode quests to be done -on normal- |
| 20:27.50 | End | they did that with a handful of quests in TBC |
| 20:28.17 | End | probably not intentionally, but once the mistake was made it was intentional! |
| 20:28.27 | Codayus | Just wait till 80 and duo it with a friend. :-p |
| 20:28.29 | Duman | which UK quest can't be done on heroic? |
| 20:30.07 | Amarande | nice ... "items pickpocketed: 4" |
| 20:30.09 | Amarande | I'm a warlock. |
| 20:30.27 | mikma | ahahahahahahaha |
| 20:30.31 | mikma | laggy server is laggy |
| 20:30.34 | Amarande | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11262 |
| 20:30.39 | mikma | 49 warlocks currently in naxx |
| 20:30.48 | mikma | that means, there's quite alot of folks in :D |
| 20:30.48 | Amarande | Blizzard actually responded to someone's ticket with "please be aware that you can only do this quest on normal mode" |
| 20:30.59 | Amarande | apparently, they really want you to go to every dungeon on both modes |
| 20:31.03 | Amarande | actually, come to think of it |
| 20:31.03 | Aiiane | wait... what, Amarande? (re: pickpocketing) |
| 20:31.10 | Amarande | what are the requirements for heroic mode in NR dungeons, anyway? |
| 20:31.18 | mikma | amarande: lvl80 |
| 20:31.19 | Amarande | Aiiane: stats say my warlock has pickpocketed four items |
| 20:31.26 | Amarande | mikma: no attunement? |
| 20:31.30 | mikma | nada. |
| 20:33.06 | Tekkub | lol 5 perfect cuts in a fucking row |
| 20:33.11 | Iriel | Amarande: My warlock has wacky pickpocket counts too |
| 20:33.17 | Iriel | Amarande: I haven't figured out what triggers it |
| 20:33.54 | End | soul shards? |
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| 20:34.43 | End | hm |
| 20:34.51 | End | I doubt that's it |
| 20:35.12 | Arrowmaster | my warlock has 173 pickpockets |
| 20:35.18 | End | 114 for me |
| 20:35.34 | End | hmm |
| 20:36.03 | End | now I'm curious |
| 20:36.35 | mikma | bicurious? |
| 20:36.50 | End | no, no |
| 20:37.33 | Amarande | Tekkub: I got like, 4 perfect cuts in a row at one point and then hardly ever get them at all anymore |
| 20:37.45 | Amarande | although, I'm at 400 JC, so I'll probably be going on to blue gems for pretty much everything soon |
| 20:37.52 | Tekkub | I always get them in clumps |
| 20:37.57 | mikma | is soulshard leeching pickpocketing? |
| 20:38.06 | Iriel | mikma: Nope |
| 20:38.10 | mikma | you sure? :) |
| 20:38.12 | End | that was my thought, but I don't think so |
| 20:38.15 | Amarande | especially since I'm sitting on a monstrous stack of money, and because I went to NR at 70 and did both BT and HF, I'll be getting a ton of extra endgame money too from quests from hitting 80 early |
| 20:38.17 | Iriel | mikma: Or if it is, it's certainly not 100% of the time |
| 20:38.19 | End | number is too small |
| 20:38.24 | Amarande | mikma: "You CREATE: [Soul Shard]" |
| 20:38.25 | mikma | number is from 3.0 |
| 20:38.27 | Iriel | mikma: I went through all of the 'obvious' things I could think of |
| 20:38.41 | Amarande | I haven't played a rogue, but I imagine pickpocketing doesn't 'create' |
| 20:39.00 | Iriel | Is your warlock a tailor? |
| 20:39.01 | mikma | well go and leech some shards, see what happens to the stat |
| 20:39.12 | End | mine isn't and I have a pickpocket count |
| 20:39.28 | End | well |
| 20:39.37 | End | is there an event that fires when a statistic is updated? |
| 20:39.52 | Amarande | Iriel: JC |
| 20:40.00 | End | mine is JC too |
| 20:40.01 | Amarande | and mining |
| 20:40.03 | End | :o |
| 20:40.58 | ZorbaTHut | end, CRITERIA_UPDATE or something |
| 20:41.02 | End | ok |
| 20:41.04 | Iriel | Mine's skinner + tailor |
| 20:41.12 | ZorbaTHut | note that it fires *all the fuckin' time* |
| 20:41.16 | Arrowmaster | tailor miner |
| 20:41.17 | ZorbaTHut | and there's no way to tell which statistic got updated |
| 20:41.37 | Iriel | Just monitor the one we care about 8-) |
| 20:41.44 | End | better than checking onupdate though |
| 20:41.45 | End | :P |
| 20:41.50 | Iriel | I was too lazy to write a monitor |
| 20:41.51 | ZorbaTHut | actually, it may be worse |
| 20:41.56 | Iriel | but if anyone figures it out, let me know |
| 20:41.57 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 20:41.58 | Amarande | lord, what is with some folks |
| 20:41.58 | ZorbaTHut | sometimes it fires half a dozen or more times in a frame |
| 20:42.01 | End | ew |
| 20:42.03 | Amarande | they see a high level then they're like 'hi' |
| 20:42.06 | Amarande | so you politely answer 'heya' |
| 20:42.07 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's almost useless |
| 20:42.11 | Amarande | and they keep going 'wana [sic] be friends' |
| 20:42.12 | Iriel | then they ask for gold? |
| 20:42.14 | Amarande | and they're like, level 14 |
| 20:42.31 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, s/level// |
| 20:42.33 | Iriel | I find the ones who think that anyone over 60 must be loaded amusing |
| 20:42.53 | Iriel | I feel like asking if they have any idea what an epic mount costs |
| 20:43.00 | Industrial | I give them 1c |
| 20:43.18 | Iriel | Industrial: how kind 8-) |
| 20:43.24 | Industrial | if they accept it, that is. usually they get mad and wander off |
| 20:43.37 | squidbear | Arrowmaster, I figured out the menu thing |
| 20:44.15 | End | ok |
| 20:44.23 | End | let's see what it fires on now |
| 20:44.53 | mikma | yo yo yo anyone in WoW EU free in order to help me test the current version of Wintergrasp Timer? |
| 20:45.59 | ZorbaTHut | end, btw, that may not be the exact string, but it's got CRITERIA in it somewhere |
| 20:46.09 | Amarande | Iriel: I got my epic mount back when the SSO dailies actually were worth cash |
| 20:46.19 | Iriel | I wonder if it's demon-despawn-on-out-of-range |
| 20:47.28 | End | ZorbaTHut: it is, but I just ended up doing OnUpdate |
| 20:47.46 | Industrial | I have problems connecting to svn.wowinterface.com (it refuses my svn connection). I can't make commits to my projects. Anyone know what's going on? |
| 20:47.58 | ZorbaTHut | end, if you just care about one criteria, that's probably far easier and almost as efficient :) |
| 20:49.58 | Industrial | never mind :S |
| 20:49.59 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/test/WoWScrnShot_122808_224759.jpg |
| 20:50.44 | ckknight | hehe, mikma |
| 20:50.58 | mikma | does that look like a gm-skill? :D |
| 20:51.33 | Shirik | what? |
| 20:51.35 | ckknight | the cooldown looks obviously wrong |
| 20:51.58 | Shirik | spell ID, mikma? |
| 20:52.28 | Amarande | Iriel: might be, that happens infrequently enough |
| 20:52.36 | Amarande | despite issues like huge tall elevators in HF |
| 20:52.44 | mikma | shirik: dunno the spellID |
| 20:52.53 | Shirik | Do you still have that WoW open? |
| 20:53.08 | mikma | aye |
| 20:53.24 | Shirik | got devtools or an ace addon installed? |
| 20:53.31 | mikma | devtools |
| 20:53.37 | mikma | enabled too |
| 20:53.44 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.46 | Shirik | Type /dump GetItemInfo(" [link] ") |
| 20:53.55 | Shirik | or |
| 20:53.57 | Shirik | ckknight's is better yeah |
| 20:54.27 | mikma | [22:54:30] [Slap in the face] 0 |
| 20:54.29 | Amarande | hmm, looks like Dragonblight will be the last zone before 80 where I even remotely am the right level |
| 20:54.39 | Shirik | mikma: Shift click it into there |
| 20:54.40 | Shirik | not type |
| 20:54.47 | Amarande | I'm going in at 75.5 or so, by the time I'm done with that, Zul'Drak and Grizzly Hills will be simplesauce |
| 20:54.48 | squidbear | Is there a TargetofTargetFrameDropDown or do I just use TargetFrameDropDown for targettarget? |
| 20:55.12 | End | it's in wowhead |
| 20:55.18 | Shirik | I couldn't find it in wowhead |
| 20:55.21 | Shirik | That's why I asked for the ID |
| 20:55.27 | End | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51663 |
| 20:55.28 | mikma | [22:55:38] |cff71d5ff|Hspell:51663|h[Slap in the Face]|h|r 5 |
| 20:55.42 | Shirik | <3 you mikma |
| 20:56.02 | End | pff, I pasted first! |
| 20:56.04 | Amarande | so ... are level 71 quests green or grey at 80? |
| 20:56.14 | Arrowmaster | squidbear: it doesnt have one at all i think |
| 20:56.20 | mikma | end: but shirik <3 ME, not you |
| 20:56.21 | End | yes |
| 20:56.32 | End | 70 are gray, and 71 might be too |
| 20:56.38 | squidbear | Arrowmaster, so there's no way to give it a menu? |
| 20:56.39 | mikma | ~nsfs |
| 20:56.39 | purl | hmm... nsfs is not safe for shirik |
| 20:56.39 | End | maybe even 72 |
| 20:56.41 | End | but I don't remember |
| 20:56.48 | nevcairiel | 72 is green |
| 20:57.06 | Amarande | hm, so I probably should do Breaking Through at 78 or 79, then ... |
| 20:57.19 | Amarande | I hate doing a quest when it's grey if I can do otherwise |
| 20:57.26 | Arrowmaster | squidbear: dont think so |
| 20:57.26 | Amarande | which also is why I *did* both BT and HF |
| 20:57.47 | squidbear | well that explains my error |
| 20:58.03 | Amarande | it might actually be best to finish out all of Azeroth before going to Outland, and all of Outland before going to Northrend, despite people rushing to Northrend as fast as possible |
| 20:58.09 | Amarande | there is a simple reason for this |
| 20:58.15 | squidbear | Arrowmaster, so there's no benefit of giving the targettarget frame the SecureUnitButtonTemplate inheritence? |
| 20:58.19 | Amarande | -WotLK involves spending stupid amounts of money- |
| 20:58.41 | Amarande | If you keep yourself ludicrously ahead of the level curve, you will receive stupid amounts of money from whole zones of quests left over at 80 |
| 20:58.46 | Arrowmaster | squidbear: no there is, so you can click it to target it, but it doesnt have a dropdown or need one |
| 20:58.59 | squidbear | Ohh ok |
| 20:59.00 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51671 |
| 20:59.01 | squidbear | gotcha |
| 21:01.13 | AnduinLothar | anyone got any idea why my keybindings for my first row of buttons woudl break after ridign a vehical? |
| 21:01.23 | AnduinLothar | probably taint, but i'm nto sure why |
| 21:02.43 | zenzelezz | completely break? |
| 21:02.55 | AnduinLothar | the bindings stop doing anything |
| 21:03.04 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:03.09 | AnduinLothar | i assume they temp reassign them |
| 21:03.17 | AnduinLothar | but they don't get set back or something |
| 21:03.29 | Amarande | off to dragonblight, and to actually be able to fly from Dalaran to elsewhere in Northrend |
| 21:05.40 | Arrowmaster | AnduinLothar: they dont get reassigned afaik |
| 21:06.01 | AnduinLothar | i haven't actually looked at how the reasignment works |
| 21:06.10 | AnduinLothar | it's sposed to restore them tho, i assume |
| 21:07.28 | mikma | so, i got an idea for Wintergrasp Timer |
| 21:07.54 | mikma | in case people don't have any addon that can display it, put the timer in blizz stopwatch |
| 21:08.01 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: Do you know if they use the SetOverrideBinding mechanism, or are they explicitly saving and restoring bindings? |
| 21:08.10 | Amarande | hm |
| 21:08.12 | Amarande | this is weird. |
| 21:08.19 | Industrial | I dont really see the need for a WG timer :S |
| 21:08.22 | AnduinLothar | dunno where the code is, ill have to find it |
| 21:08.22 | Amarande | I have 1/130 quests in Dragonblight and this is the first time I've set foot in here |
| 21:09.46 | Fisker- | that's what she said |
| 21:10.53 | p3lim | Anyone here experienced with raid attributes? |
| 21:11.06 | squidbear | Arrowmaster, so I did SF_TargetofTargetFrame:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonUp") |
| 21:11.06 | squidbear | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.23 | AnduinLothar | wow, that's mean |
| 21:11.25 | AnduinLothar | frame = getglobal("VehicleMenuBarActionButton"..i.."HotKey"); |
| 21:11.25 | AnduinLothar | frame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", -20, -4); |
| 21:11.25 | AnduinLothar | frame.SetPoint = function() end; |
| 21:11.42 | mikma | lol great. 3 lines and i have working Wintergrasp Timer with builtin Stopwatch! |
| 21:12.14 | End | AnduinLothar: that shouldn't stop you though! |
| 21:12.21 | AnduinLothar | yeah, but it's mean! |
| 21:12.48 | Arrowmaster | you need to do SF_TargetofTargetFrame:SetAttribute("*type1", "target") SF_TargetofTargetFrame:SetAttribute("unit", "targettarget") |
| 21:12.49 | AnduinLothar | like at least make it a flag or something |
| 21:13.08 | End | well |
| 21:13.13 | End | what makes me curious is why |
| 21:13.23 | Arrowmaster | AnduinLothar: all the animation stuff is hardcoded locations, i was fighting with it trying to fix up fubar |
| 21:13.34 | AnduinLothar | Iriel: i cant find any binding code in the VehicalMenuBar |
| 21:19.25 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh my friend btw |
| 21:19.26 | AnduinLothar | Looks like it jsut defines name="VehicleActionButtonTemplate" inherits="BonusActionButtonTemplate" |
| 21:20.24 | AnduinLothar | if ( event == "UPDATE_BINDINGS" ) then |
| 21:20.24 | AnduinLothar | ActionButton_UpdateHotkeys(self, self.buttonType); |
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| 21:22.01 | AnduinLothar | ActionButton_UpdateHotkeys does NOT use SetOverrideBinding |
| 21:22.39 | Iriel | AnduinLothar: Bummer, that would have been nice and clean |
| 21:23.24 | AnduinLothar | actually that's just text the binding is in ActionButton_Update |
| 21:23.31 | AnduinLothar | but same thing, not override |
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| 21:26.40 | AnduinLothar | in fact i can't find where it sets them at all |
| 21:26.54 | Amarande | yay. my first piece of ilvl 200 gear, and I'm only level 75 |
| 21:26.58 | Amarande | and it only cost me about 400g for mats, too |
| 21:27.05 | AnduinLothar | seems to just respond to the UPDATE_BINDINGS event |
| 21:27.24 | Iriel | Hm, I wonder if the game rebinds behind the scenes? |
| 21:27.53 | zenzelezz | try hooking stuff to see if they get called somehow? |
| 21:27.58 | Amarande | Ruby Hare trinket. |
| 21:28.05 | AnduinLothar | probably with the unit pet/player swap |
| 21:28.09 | Amarande | took me awhile to decide between making that or a twilight serpent first heh |
| 21:29.44 | nevcairiel | Maybe it remaps the button the same as the bonusactionbar works for stances |
| 21:30.24 | AnduinLothar | i'm sure it does |
| 21:30.32 | AnduinLothar | since it uses the bonus action buttons |
| 21:30.36 | nevcairiel | ah yeah, it uses a bonusbaroffset |
| 21:30.39 | AnduinLothar | template* |
| 21:30.45 | nevcairiel | so the click actually goes to ActionButton1 |
| 21:30.46 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 21:30.50 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 21:30.52 | nevcairiel | and they calculate the real button |
| 21:30.56 | mikma | rofl, hey how can i check is frame shown or not? :D |
| 21:31.00 | Iriel | Oh, then that doesn't explain why your buttons dont work |
| 21:31.07 | Iriel | mikma: :IsVisible() or :IsShown() |
| 21:31.21 | AnduinLothar | ok, so i guess the offset needs to be set to zero after it hides? |
| 21:31.22 | mikma | hmm they must be on the widget side |
| 21:31.35 | nevcairiel | zero or the stance the player is in |
| 21:31.59 | nevcairiel | but the game does that for you with GetBonusBarOffset() |
| 21:32.13 | AnduinLothar | how is that set? |
| 21:34.13 | AnduinLothar | ok so my bindings aren't working right now, but GetBonusBarOffset() == 0 |
| 21:34.22 | AnduinLothar | after getting off a vehical |
| 21:35.05 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: poke |
| 21:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | AnduinLothar: link the boots you wanted made |
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| 21:35.24 | AnduinLothar | i made um. i need the helm made |
| 21:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
| 21:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Link that? |
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| 21:57.52 | AnduinLothar | nevcairiel: do you know how it's spose to restore the bindings after a stance? |
| 21:58.05 | Iriel | The bindings never move |
| 21:58.11 | nevcairiel | yeah they never move |
| 21:58.16 | Iriel | what happens is the button fires a different action when it's clicked |
| 21:58.21 | nevcairiel | the secure onclick calls ActionButton_CalculateAction |
| 21:58.31 | Iriel | which is based on a few things in the current world, there's a cached action which refreshes on certain events |
| 21:58.37 | nevcairiel | so it determines what to do in the OnClick handler |
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| 22:06.15 | Amarande | and the Lions set the EPIC FAIL record |
| 22:06.58 | zenzelezz | what are the Lions, and how did they do that? |
| 22:08.08 | Amarande | zenzelezz: the Detroit NFL team |
| 22:08.18 | Amarande | they became the first NFL team in history to go 0-16 in a season |
| 22:09.52 | Industrial | hmm I've been trying to capture the CastingBarFrame OnUpdate handelr and hook it but its been unsucessful :( |
| 22:09.55 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/105177 |
| 22:10.03 | Industrial | I'm making an addon to show the lag inside the castingbar |
| 22:10.14 | Industrial | (in -50 lines so far! :P) |
| 22:10.22 | Industrial | the onupdate print just never happens |
| 22:10.30 | Industrial | the onevent works fine |
| 22:10.53 | zenzelezz | your addon removes 50 lines of code? |
| 22:11.12 | Industrial | s/-/</ |
| 22:11.20 | zenzelezz | gotcha |
| 22:11.45 | Industrial | also im dumb |
| 22:11.49 | Industrial | got it i think :P |
| 22:11.54 | Iriel | Industrial: it's possible that wow sets and clears the handler (unlikely, but possible) |
| 22:11.54 | zenzelezz | how are you displaying the lag? Text? Graphic? |
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| 22:12.12 | Iriel | Industrial: sometimes it's cleaner to just create your own frame as a child of the one you care about and stick your handler on that |
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| 22:14.29 | Industrial | yeah I was trying not to, dunno why :P |
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| 22:23.33 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/c53f516348f9c0ecde995c9505959264.jpg |
| 22:25.21 | Zyndrome | poor kitty with anal problems |
| 22:25.32 | haste | anyone here with bioshock on steam? that cba to test if the can re-bind strafe left/right to R? |
| 22:25.46 | haste | the demo doesn't want me to do it at least :( |
| 22:26.31 | Corrodias | unfortunately, my bioshock was purchased on dvd :( |
| 22:26.35 | Corrodias | before it was available on steam |
| 22:26.52 | Corrodias | i wish i could trade it in... |
| 22:26.53 | haste | do you have it all patched up now tho'? |
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| 22:27.16 | Corrodias | um... i don't know what the most recent version is, so maybe not. |
| 22:27.35 | haste | I just finishid system shock 2, and bioshock looks interesting |
| 22:27.44 | haste | think they released a version 4th december |
| 22:28.01 | Corrodias | then i certainly don't have it, sorry |
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| 22:28.31 | AnduinLothar | i keep getting this error :( |
| 22:28.32 | AnduinLothar | Interface\FrameXML\SecureHandlers.lua:511: Cannot use SecureHandlers API during combat |
| 22:28.40 | zenzelezz | are there any parallels between System Shock and Bioshock besides the name? |
| 22:28.43 | haste | 4th december last year |
| 22:28.58 | Iriel | I dont know, I thought Bioshock was very nicely done, I enjoyed it a lot |
| 22:29.04 | haste | zenzelezz: save designer, and they have basically just improved on sshock2 |
| 22:29.08 | mikma | rofl |
| 22:29.16 | haste | I just saw the first five min. of it |
| 22:29.21 | mikma | so i have had this timer running down from 50 minutes |
| 22:29.23 | haste | and it was like: ^C ^V :p |
| 22:29.32 | zenzelezz | haste: really? I must be thinking of the wrong company then |
| 22:29.37 | mikma | i noticed that the time Wintergrasp NPC give is not correct |
| 22:29.48 | haste | zenzelezz: not the same company, but people from the old |
| 22:29.57 | haste | the company that relaesed sshock2 died shortly after |
| 22:30.00 | zenzelezz | haste: oh, I see |
| 22:30.12 | haste | same designer however |
| 22:30.36 | Corrodias | i'm afraid i haven't played system shock 2 |
| 22:30.47 | haste | then you've missed out on a great game :D |
| 22:30.52 | Corrodias | i really enjoyed bioshock |
| 22:31.14 | Corrodias | trying to run it on my old computer, with a GF 7800GT, was a lost cause, sadly. |
| 22:32.07 | Codayus | I loved system shock 2, but I didn't think too much of bioshock. :-/ |
| 22:32.15 | haste | Codayus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmFMxOY-sLU |
| 22:32.23 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.54 | Codayus | I'd give it 10/10 for art direction, but frankly it either needed to be shorter, or for the devs to have had more ideas. |
| 22:32.59 | Codayus | :( |
| 22:34.23 | Codayus | Also, the plot was hackneyed. Still a lovely, lovely game. |
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| 22:35.52 | Corrodias | ah yes. well, there wasn't a whole LOT of plot, so it was somewhat stretched. |
| 22:35.55 | mikma | i guess i'll change this addon to actually broadcast two kinds of messages. one is from users, and other is the time announced by the npc's. |
| 22:36.08 | mikma | and the npc time will always overwrite the user-broadcasted |
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| 22:36.36 | mikma | can't see any other ways of getting the correct time if the actual time is some sort of time +/- 10000 |
| 22:45.45 | foxlit | you what who where now? |
| 22:45.54 | Industrial | Iriel: I'm still nto getting anything :S can you see any error ?http://pastey.net/105180 |
| 22:46.24 | Industrial | I should be seeing a totally red little bar on my castingbar with te correct length of lag left, but nothing :S |
| 22:47.08 | Iriel | Do you need frame:Show() ? |
| 22:48.35 | Iriel | Also, you anchored your texture to UIParent, not to the casting bar frame |
| 22:48.42 | Iriel | you might need some ClearAllPoints in there |
| 22:48.45 | Iriel | on texture |
| 22:49.14 | Industrial | im creating the texture as child of castingbarframe so it should just always be shown (right?) |
| 22:49.34 | Iriel | texture, yes, i'm not sure about frame, though I think it starts shown by default. |
| 22:49.48 | Iriel | You haven't said if your problem is that your code doesn't run, or that it doesn't show up on screen |
| 22:50.15 | Iriel | If it's the latter the problem may well just be the lack of ClearAllPoints() calls before you SetPoint |
| 22:50.18 | Industrial | it doesnt show up, it runs |
| 22:50.22 | Industrial | hmm |
| 22:50.31 | Industrial | oh, right |
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| 23:04.12 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.18 | Fisker- | i just reached a new level |
| 23:04.46 | Fisker- | I get a free day of trolling! |
| 23:11.08 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b %Fisker-!*@*] by Shirik |
| 23:11.12 | Shirik | anti-troll mode activated |
| 23:11.19 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:11.25 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b %Fisker-!*@*] by Shirik |
| 23:14.09 | Fisker- | :( |
| 23:14.55 | mikma | ownsker- |
| 23:15.56 | Fisker- | mikma my archenemy |
| 23:16.14 | Corrodias | the internet is boring today... |
| 23:16.25 | mikma | fisker-: arsenary |
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| 23:16.35 | Fisker- | everyone is out celebrating my birthday Corrodias :( |
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| 23:22.52 | Shirik | wow |
| 23:22.54 | Shirik | I broke checkstyle |
| 23:23.13 | Iriel | Does your code COMPILE? |
| 23:23.15 | Shirik | yeah |
| 23:23.27 | Shirik | I think it got pissed at my {@inheritDoc} tag |
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| 23:24.49 | Shirik | I take that back, what it's referencing doesn't use that tag |
| 23:24.51 | Shirik | I don't know what I did :/ |
| 23:25.05 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\mmoimgr\wowi\src\com\mmoui\wow\manager\Addon.java:0: Got an exception - java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to get class information for @throws tag 'com.mmoui.wow.manager.InvalidAddonException'. |
| 23:25.55 | Iriel | Does your javadoc use it? |
| 23:26.14 | Iriel | Let me take a mental step back |
| 23:26.28 | Iriel | 1) Do a clean / recompile first just in case something got out of whack |
| 23:27.03 | Iriel | 2) Check that you dont have a case in which your javadoc references something that's not in a module's classpath (it wont break a compile, but can confuse checkstyle) |
| 23:27.13 | Iriel | 3) As a final sanity check try building javadoc for the module |
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| 23:37.11 | nevcairiel | anyonw that not fails at vim: can i get it to re-indent a whole file for me? if so, how? |
| 23:37.28 | Shirik | Go to top |
| 23:37.32 | Shirik | shift V |
| 23:37.34 | Shirik | go to bottom |
| 23:37.38 | Shirik | > |
| 23:37.50 | Shirik | "go to top" is g, "go to bottom" is G |
| 23:37.53 | Shirik | I might have those backwards |
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| 23:38.55 | Hirsute | gg will go to the top, G will go to the bottom. |
| 23:39.05 | Hirsute | He's correct, that should do it for you. |
| 23:40.01 | Shirik | Iriel, it appears it doesn't like "@throws com.mmoui.wow.manager.InvalidAddonException" but accepts "@throws InvalidAddonException" |
| 23:40.10 | Shirik | (I tried your tips but found nothing of note) |
| 23:40.18 | Iriel | Odd |
| 23:44.36 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. In lua, if I have an indexed table (foo = {"bar", "baz"}), how would I add an element to the table without having to first know the number of elements already there? I guess I'm looking for something like perl's push() |
| 23:45.12 | Iriel | You could use tinsert |
| 23:45.28 | Iriel | or you could do foo[#foo+1] = "wibble" |
| 23:45.41 | Hirsute | Is one more efficient than the other? |
| 23:46.19 | Iriel | If it's a "pure" array (i.e. consecutive integer keys, no nil values) and foo is local, the second is usually faster |
| 23:46.27 | Iriel | because it involves no explicit function calls |
| 23:46.59 | Iriel | if you're REALLY concerned about insert speed then maintain a local counter on the array size, but that's generally not necessary for normal code |
| 23:47.16 | Iriel | one could argue that in the general case using table.insert / tinsert is better because it's more obvious what you're doing |
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| 23:48.06 | Hirsute | Okay, it will be a local, pure array, and efficiency isn't a *huge* deal for this particular situation. |
| 23:48.13 | Hirsute | Looking up table.insert now. |
| 23:48.44 | Iriel | table.insert(foo, "wibble") |
| 23:49.11 | Iriel | table.insert allows you do do insertions at places other than the end too, and will shift existing entries |
| 23:49.31 | Hirsute | Nice. |
| 23:49.44 | Iriel | table.insert(foo, 2, "wibble") --> { "bar", "wibble", "baz" } |
| 23:50.02 | Hirsute | Very cool. |
| 23:51.23 | Hirsute | I'm writing an addon to filter messages from channels (like Trade) that contain certain "blacklisted" words. Right now I'm storing the blacklisted words as keys in an associative table, and splitting the incoming messages and checking each word in the message against the table. |
| 23:52.15 | Hirsute | However, I'd like to be able to provide a means to do phrases, but it's less efficient (store the phrases in an indexed table and do a pattern match against the message), so it'll be an option to turn on for those willing to suffer whatever performance hit. |
| 23:52.56 | foxlit | Use :match directly |
| 23:53.04 | Iriel | I'm curious to know, under load, whether that performs better or worse that building regexps for each search term (or compound regexps for groups of them) and doing string.match |
| 23:53.40 | Hirsute | Iriel: part of why I'm making it optional. I'd like to run it both ways myself to see if there's a noticeable performance hit. |
| 23:53.41 | Iriel | it's probably dependent on the number of blacklisted words |
| 23:53.45 | foxlit | If you could combine everything into a FSM? |
| 23:53.56 | Hirsute | Flying Spaghetti Monster? |
| 23:53.59 | Arrowmaster | i use an indexed table of patterns when i do stuff like that |
| 23:54.02 | Iriel | foxlit: the challenge is making it a C FSM, ideally lua would have compiled expressions |
| 23:54.08 | Iriel | Hirsute: Finite State Machine |
| 23:54.14 | Arrowmaster | and ipairs over the table and try each pattern in a set order |
| 23:54.15 | foxlit | Then your performance is basically O(n) at the length of the incoming message. |
| 23:54.19 | Hirsute | Iriel: Ah, way above my head. |
| 23:54.37 | foxlit | Hirsute: actually once of the fancier terms that is relatively trivial :) |
| 23:54.46 | foxlit | Look it up, abuse it at your leisure. |
| 23:55.10 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: that's the second (though I've been told less efficient) way I intend to provide to do things. It's advantage is that it will allow me to match against phrases instead of single words. |
| 23:55.19 | foxlit | Iriel: the problem is, Lua's matching misses any sort of | operator :) |
| 23:55.26 | Arrowmaster | well my patterns are extremely complex |
| 23:55.34 | Iriel | foxlit: well, beyond [] 8-) |
| 23:55.47 | Hirsute | But I'm told doing multiple string.match's on every incoming message may incur severe performance hits. |
| 23:55.52 | Arrowmaster | the only preformance issue is that its done in a ChatFrame_AddMessageFilter and i dont cache it yet |
| 23:56.07 | Iriel | Hirsute: that's true, but there's also a performance hit on string split's (since you create lots of tiny strings) |
| 23:56.32 | Iriel | That's why it's likely relative to the word list size versus the kinds of messages you're filtering |
| 23:56.43 | Hirsute | Iriel: also true, but it would only have to be done once on each incoming message. The match would need to be done once for every blacklisted word or phrase on each incoming message. |
| 23:56.46 | Iriel | if you have say, 1,000,000 words, then the split approach will almost certainly be better |
| 23:56.48 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 23:56.59 | Arrowmaster | im doing string.gsub instead of string.match though |
| 23:57.03 | Iriel | if you have say, 3 words, then the match approach is likely better |
| 23:57.15 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: I'll have to look up the difference. |
| 23:57.17 | Iriel | gsub is kind of a nasty middleground 8-) |
| 23:57.35 | Tekkub | what are you blacklisting that many things for? |
| 23:58.18 | Hirsute | Tekkub: For me it'll actually only be 3 or 4 words. I wanted to do it in the way that would afford the most scalability so that if someone out there had a really long blacklist, it wouldn't kill them. |
| 23:59.04 | Hirsute | And it'll only be one channel for me, too. Trade. Blacklisting "recruit", "recruiting", and "anal". Possibly "Chuck Norris", though that can be amusing at times. |
| 23:59.04 | Tekkub | ah, yea just do 4 string.matches and fuck scalability |
| 23:59.45 | Tekkub | that's the kinda thing where you either write for a huge list, or a tiny one, the two don't coexist too well |
