| 00:00.10 | |Jelly| | http://thottbot.com/i41383 could be a pally tank weapon? I mean, it doesn't have avoidance but damn if those aren't nice stats for a 1h |
| 00:01.16 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, sure could be. obviously yeah, it's lacking avoidance, but if avoidance isn't a problem, it's got nice sta, and the expertise is great for tanking too. |
| 00:01.54 | Codayus_ | It's not uncommon for tanks to stack avoidance on their armor, and TPS stats on their weapon. |
| 00:02.18 | |Jelly| | My Suneater with Potency, for instance? :P |
| 00:02.22 | Codayus_ | DKs have to do that, and paladins often do as well. |
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| 00:09.54 | foxlit | good lord, how could they mess up windergrasp balance this badly? |
| 00:11.00 | haste | by moving the comma! |
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| 00:22.34 | Fisker- | i hate you haste |
| 00:22.36 | Fisker- | i want to skin you alive |
| 00:22.41 | Codex| | anyone here have a problem with xperl showing combo points |
| 00:40.21 | Esamynn | foxlit: I don't think the problem is that they screwed up the balance, it's just balanced for MUCH larger groups of people and it hasn't scaled well to the small battles we currently have |
| 00:40.43 | foxlit | I was complaining at the balancing buff |
| 00:40.58 | Esamynn | you mean Tenacity? |
| 00:41.00 | Esamynn | I know |
| 00:41.28 | foxlit | Which, with our server population, virtually guarantees that horde will always be able to two-shot anyone, and will never die to anything less than focus fire from 5 different people. |
| 00:42.00 | Fisker- | nah |
| 00:42.09 | Esamynn | which means they are probably out numbered more than 5 -1 :P |
| 00:42.13 | Fisker- | Wintergrasp gets batshit retarded if you start talking about 20 with the buff vs. 100 without |
| 00:42.33 | foxlit | Esamynn: yes, but a single mage can kill the entire deadmines instance. |
| 00:42.47 | foxlit | The credit-for-kills mechanic is also moronic. |
| 00:43.09 | Esamynn | you mean for npc kills? yes |
| 00:43.13 | foxlit | (KBing party gets the credit, vehicles can be tagged) |
| 00:43.33 | Esamynn | it's only KB for npcs, not for players |
| 00:43.48 | foxlit | I don't think that's how it worked a few hours ago |
| 00:43.57 | Esamynn | HKs count towards your rank |
| 00:44.00 | Esamynn | I guarantee it |
| 00:44.04 | foxlit | Yeah, but not towards quest credit. |
| 00:44.12 | Esamynn | what quest? |
| 00:44.26 | foxlit | All of them? Kill x enemy players, kill x enemy vehicles? |
| 00:45.53 | Esamynn | yes well, that has nothing to do with balance |
| 00:46.10 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 00:46.28 | foxlit | Just goes to show that someone didn't think things through |
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| 01:21.59 | abyx | ugh. scrollframes i still don't understand |
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| 01:29.40 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf RIT |
| 01:30.01 | Corr-work | ~wtf ritalin |
| 01:30.11 | Thunder_Child | wtf is for acronyms |
| 01:30.16 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf fubar |
| 01:30.17 | Corr-work | not if i can help it |
| 01:30.35 | abyx | ~wtf radar |
| 01:30.42 | abyx | -_- you fail purl! |
| 01:30.45 | Thunder_Child | well, purl doesnt have them all |
| 01:30.49 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf snafu |
| 01:31.07 | Thunder_Child | ~radar |
| 01:31.45 | Thunder_Child | purl RADAR is radio detection and ranging |
| 01:31.46 | purl | okay, Thunder_Child |
| 01:31.50 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf radar |
| 01:31.54 | Thunder_Child | bah |
| 01:32.08 | Esamynn | ~laugh Thunder_Child |
| 01:32.08 | purl | ACTION laughs hysterically at Thunder_Child...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 01:32.32 | Thunder_Child | ~literal CMD: wtf (.*?) |
| 01:32.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Esamynn |
| 01:32.50 | purl | whips out his power stapler and staples Esamynn's foot to the floor |
| 01:33.08 | abyx | ~wtf lart |
| 01:33.12 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: I thought it was wonderfully appropriate :P |
| 01:33.13 | abyx | woo it's got that one at least |
| 01:33.24 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, i'm sure you did |
| 01:33.30 | Esamynn | abyx: I'd be concerned it she didn't |
| 01:33.37 | Esamynn | s/it/if/ |
| 01:33.39 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Esamynn |
| 01:33.40 | purl | Esamynn: FAIL! |
| 01:33.48 | Esamynn | ~whaleslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:33.48 | purl | ACTION beats Thunder_Child upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 01:33.57 | Thunder_Child | ~whaledodge Esamynn |
| 01:33.57 | purl | 15 whales teleport around thunder_child, protecting thunder_child from any harm as a result of Esamynn's actions |
| 01:34.14 | Esamynn | ~bzfrag Thunder_Child |
| 01:34.15 | purl | ACTION makes Thunder_Child feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 01:34.35 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Esamynn |
| 01:34.35 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of Esamynn's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 01:34.54 | Esamynn | ~cheeseslap Thunder_Child |
| 01:34.55 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child around with a slice of limburger |
| 01:34.55 | abyx | anyone care to roughly explain FauxScrollFrames to me? |
| 01:35.36 | abyx | a scrollframe i thought was a frame that partially displays another frame by hiding all but the visible part of the scrollframe... kind of like a window to another frame |
| 01:35.46 | Esamynn | yup |
| 01:35.55 | abyx | but what is a FauxScrollFrame? |
| 01:36.03 | foxlit | A ScrollFrame that contains nothing |
| 01:36.10 | Esamynn | a pretend scroll frame ;) |
| 01:36.11 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo whaleshield |
| 01:36.11 | purl | whaleshield -- created by hyperChipmunk <n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com> at Tue Oct 9 15:44:26 2007 (416 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 01:36.21 | abyx | and does a FauxScrollFrame need a ScrollingMessageFrame to create a chatlog type frame? |
| 01:36.22 | foxlit | Oh, it's a real enough ScrollFrame :) |
| 01:36.24 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: you lose :P |
| 01:36.33 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, why? |
| 01:37.18 | abyx | or does FauxScrollFrame provide that somehow without having to include other frames in it |
| 01:37.19 | foxlit | The trick is just that there's nothing _in_ it; instead, you display elements based (anchored elsewhere) based on the scroll position. |
| 01:37.40 | foxlit | it has nothing to do with the functionality provided by ScrollingMessageFrame |
| 01:38.03 | abyx | could i not setup a ScrollFrame to change the offset of a ScrollingMessageFrame? |
| 01:38.17 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: checking for factoids is the same as requesting one that doesn't exist :P |
| 01:38.28 | foxlit | You wouldn't do it that way, no. |
| 01:38.36 | abyx | then how would i do it? |
| 01:38.43 | foxlit | There's already ScrollingMessageFrame:SetScrollOffset(offset) |
| 01:39.06 | abyx | right, but i want to have a vertical scrollbar at the side of my ScrollingMessageFrame |
| 01:39.21 | foxlit | So display a vertical scrolbar at the side :) |
| 01:39.29 | abyx | like... the guild bank info tab |
| 01:39.47 | abyx | or transaction tab that includes a list of all the transactions with a nice scrollbar to the side |
| 01:40.16 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, but it's one i just used |
| 01:40.18 | foxlit | I don't think those are ScrollingMessageFrames, but I haven't looked at how those are implemented. |
| 01:40.33 | abyx | I don't think they are either |
| 01:40.46 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: no you used whaledodge, not whaleshield :P |
| 01:41.20 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, so i did...i meant to lookup whaledodge though |
| 01:41.26 | Esamynn | heheh |
| 01:42.11 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo whaledodge |
| 01:42.11 | purl | Thunder_Child: there's no such factoid as whaledodge |
| 01:44.12 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: whaledodge (.*?) |
| 01:44.12 | purl | cmd: whaledodge (.*?) -- created by Thunder_Child <n=TC@cpe-76-171-31-114.socal.res.rr.com> at Thu Oct 16 21:32:43 2008 (43 days); last modified at Thu Oct 16 21:33:17 2008 by Thunder_Child!n=TC@cpe-76-171-31-114.socal.res.rr.com; it has been requested 3 times, last by Thunder_Child, 10m 15s ago. |
| 01:44.50 | abyx | So how exactly do i add messages and text and whatnot to a FauxScrollFrame? |
| 01:44.59 | abyx | or rather a ScrollFrame that inherits FauxScrollFrame |
| 01:45.08 | Esamynn | abyx: you don't not directly |
| 01:45.16 | abyx | then where does the text come from? o.o |
| 01:45.22 | Esamynn | abyx: the friends frame is a good example of a FauxScroll Frame |
| 01:45.46 | ScytheBlade1 | A FauxScrollFrame is a series of static UI elements that are updated to make it appear like they scroll |
| 01:45.58 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 01:45.59 | ScytheBlade1 | A ScrollFrame provides smooth pixel by pixel scrolling of an entire frame |
| 01:46.10 | Esamynn | thanks sb1, I was blanking out on a good summary |
| 01:46.21 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 01:46.52 | ScytheBlade1 | In the case of a Faux, lua is used to update what is displayed on the static UI elements, be it textures, text, or even frames |
| 01:47.03 | ScytheBlade1 | You're not actually scrolling a list of 200 elements |
| 01:47.15 | abyx | you're moving the frame that contains the 200 elements |
| 01:47.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You're scrolling a list of 6 that change what is displayed |
| 01:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 01:47.28 | ScytheBlade1 | You have 6 (for example) elements in a Faux |
| 01:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You scroll up one |
| 01:47.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And instead of adding more/playing with visibility |
| 01:47.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You just change what is displayed on every individual element |
| 01:48.03 | Esamynn | Faux is actually more commonly used in the base UI than a real scroll frame, for performance reasons |
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| 01:48.42 | ScytheBlade1 | A ScrollFrame is more or less just a frame that wraps another (much much) larger frame |
| 01:48.48 | Esamynn | at least I imagine it's performance reasons, I've never actually tested |
| 01:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And allows you to scroll it pixel by pixel |
| 01:49.18 | Esamynn | the other advantage of a FauxScrollFrame for lists is that you never only see a portion of an element, it always scrolls by full "lines" |
| 01:49.38 | ScytheBlade1 | It's also typically easier to manipulate if you write it correctly |
| 01:49.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It's easy to jump to a specific "line" with a Faux |
| 01:49.52 | Esamynn | the disadvantage is that all the "lines" need to be the same size |
| 01:50.00 | ScytheBlade1 | With a regular, you've only got pixel based control |
| 01:50.05 | schnoggo | HUGE performance diff, but you obviously don't get to scroll pixel-by-pixel. (Which isn't desirable for men7us-iash frames anyway) |
| 01:50.14 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 01:50.27 | abyx | so how would i add text to a FauxScrollFrame? |
| 01:50.49 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd create a series of blank elements (frames, text, textures) |
| 01:50.50 | Esamynn | you need a widget (fontstring) for each line in your list abyx |
| 01:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | And use lua to update them accordingly |
| 01:51.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Your data is typically stored within a lua table |
| 01:53.01 | ScytheBlade1 | .. the entire concept of a "FauxScrollFrame" is really very very loose. You're not scrolling, you're making it appear like you're scrolling. You can create one in any large number of ways |
| 01:53.25 | ScytheBlade1 | You keep asking "how" when the answer is just about literally "any way you want to" |
| 01:59.55 | Corr-work | any large number? |
| 02:00.06 | Corr-work | 9 million ways? HMM? |
| 02:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure! |
| 02:00.31 | ScytheBlade1 | They're more of a concept than a hard science |
| 02:00.43 | Corr-work | artistry, you might say |
| 02:00.54 | ScytheBlade1 | One might say so indeed! |
| 02:02.25 | NightHawkTheSane | only if you consider stabbing shards of glass into your face 'art' |
| 02:02.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, if you use the stock template, correct |
| 02:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ~FauxScrollFrame |
| 02:02.51 | purl | from memory, fauxscrollframe is one of the first Lua/XML systems written by Blizzard for the WoW user interface. Its learning curve resembles an inverted L, and Zootfizzle hates it. Along with cogs, it is in the top five on his "dead to me" list. Mikk says: Just use a Slider. |
| 02:03.13 | Esamynn | speaking of FauxScroll Frames, I wish the Achievements UI used them, though I understand why it doesn't |
| 02:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Dynamic sized elements |
| 02:03.32 | Esamynn | the mouse scrolling in the Achievements frame bugs me to no end |
| 02:03.43 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 02:03.53 | abyx | right now i'm thinking of just using a slider |
| 02:04.28 | Esamynn | abyx: that's essentially what a FauxScrollFrame does, it's just a framework that is supposed to make doing that sort of thing easier |
| 02:04.37 | abyx | it ain't helpin! |
| 02:04.47 | Esamynn | hehehe |
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| 02:05.05 | Esamynn | abyx: let me tell you, there is a LOT of hate for the FuaxScrollFrame out there |
| 02:05.26 | Esamynn | not the idea, but the template itself |
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| 02:29.09 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.flickr.com/photos/26810211@N06/2984752355/ |
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| 03:00.23 | Lothaer | ~seen Cairenn |
| 03:00.25 | purl | cairenn is currently on #waruidev (1d 8h 28m 6s) #wowuidev (1d 8h 28m 6s) #wowace (1d 8h 28m 6s) #wowwiki (1d 8h 28m 6s). Has said a total of 94 messages. Is idling for 5h 40m 34s, last said: 'hehehe'. |
| 03:00.31 | Cairenn | Lothaer: hi |
| 03:00.34 | Lothaer | hey |
| 03:00.38 | Cairenn | 'sup? |
| 03:00.42 | |Jelly| | http://i33.tinypic.com/xo1pmu.jpg Just another day at the office |
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| 03:02.18 | Lothaer | the mod known as GatherSage on wowinterface http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5241-GatherSage.html#comments hasnt been updated in over 1 year, i have just now completed adding ALL Wotlk Data and missing classic and TBC data, what steps do i have to follow to "take over" (bad word i know) the mods page, atleast until the original author comes back? |
| 03:02.39 | Corr-work | interesting question there |
| 03:02.53 | Cairenn | have you tried contacting the original author to see if they'll give you ownership of it? |
| 03:03.05 | NightHawkTheSane | buy out 50% ownership of it's controlling stock, imo. ;) |
| 03:03.08 | Corr-work | if you don't get explicit permission, i think you can make a spinoff, unless the addon's license forbids it |
| 03:05.13 | Tem | if there's no license, then it is implicitly forbidden |
| 03:05.13 | Lothaer | there is no licence and i have just send the author a PM |
| 03:06.09 | Tem | the rogue poison skill is gone, right? |
| 03:06.13 | Tem | (as a tradeskill) |
| 03:06.27 | Tem | beast training as a tradeskill is also gone, right? |
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| 03:07.26 | Lothaer | rogue now get there poisons like any other reagent |
| 03:07.30 | Corr-work | if there's -no- license, sure |
| 03:07.56 | Lothaer | nope none |
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| 03:08.03 | Corr-work | yay copyright, screw over the users to protect somebody's useless old work :D |
| 03:08.16 | Tem | screw users anyway |
| 03:08.20 | Tem | I do this for fun |
| 03:08.24 | Tem | not for their enjoyment |
| 03:08.40 | Lothaer | lol |
| 03:17.04 | Tekkub | that's exactly what copyright is for, screwing the other peoples |
| 03:17.43 | Tem | I use copyright to keep people I don't like from touching my stuff |
| 03:18.03 | Tem | and I like it that way |
| 03:20.08 | Corr-work | more like corkright, for corkscrewing people |
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| 03:23.08 | |Jelly| | (About time, I know) DING! 80 |
| 03:25.44 | Tekkub | about time? |
| 03:25.54 | Tekkub | I'm 72 and 71.6 :P |
| 03:25.54 | KernalKrunK | gratz lol |
| 03:25.54 | Lothaer | what is/was AceOO-2.0 used for? |
| 03:26.02 | |Jelly| | Just assumed 90% of the people here would be all "About time ..." :P |
| 03:26.07 | |Jelly| | buncha nerds! |
| 03:29.09 | sacarasc | |Jelly|: i only made 80 myself a few hours ago |
| 03:29.27 | sacarasc | and as you're in the US, it probably took you less time |
| 03:29.33 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, i was 80 last week, but thats really only because i dont have a job currently. :( |
| 03:31.52 | Corr-work | i had a dream that i was trying to get someone to convince me to start playing again |
| 03:32.31 | Lothaer | yeah so when are you gonna do that? |
| 03:39.06 | Tem | should ding 70 tonight |
| 03:39.15 | Tem | assuming I can pull myself away from the AH |
| 03:39.43 | AnduinLothar | i hit 77 today, yay mount |
| 03:40.31 | AnduinLothar | but now i'm programming dropdowns |
| 03:41.22 | AnduinLothar | so, you know that titan creation that's sposed to be the most powerful thing they've ever created that you ride like a vehical for a basin quest? why is it so weak... |
| 03:41.37 | AnduinLothar | like you have to kite the bosses in order to kill them |
| 03:41.48 | AnduinLothar | if that's the BEST the titans can do... that's kinda sad |
| 03:47.58 | NightHawkTheSane | AnduinLothar: in the avalanche area? I don't recall having to do any kiting for that.. |
| 03:48.55 | AnduinLothar | well that 1 boss that had the shadow aoe i found easier to kite, cause he liked to slow me or confuse or something and then i wouldn't be able to get out of the way fast enough |
| 03:49.19 | AnduinLothar | and then that dragon was easier to kite so you could wait till your aoe was up for the skelllies |
| 03:49.34 | AnduinLothar | and then that other one was easy to kite cause then he was slower than you |
| 03:49.53 | AnduinLothar | and if i stood in front of them and hit them i'd always die |
| 03:50.36 | NightHawkTheSane | the one that has that aoe, you have to duck out of, yeah. but i dont remember having issues just fighting the other two, but i haven't actually done it since some time ago in beta, and they may have changed it |
| 03:50.40 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 03:51.20 | AnduinLothar | just seems to me that the titan's fallback plan slash strongest creation should be more powerful than silly arthas' |
| 03:51.32 | abyx | can you size a parent frame based on the size of a child frame? |
| 03:51.47 | abyx | or can you get a parent frames anchor to a child frames anchor? |
| 03:52.01 | abyx | s/get/set/ |
| 03:52.03 | AnduinLothar | not usually |
| 03:52.21 | AnduinLothar | errors with a feedback loop |
| 03:52.26 | abyx | i have a variable height text frame on my frame but i want the parent frame to always be the right size |
| 03:52.59 | Tekkub | you can't ancor parents to their children |
| 03:53.06 | AnduinLothar | it's possible given the right circumstances |
| 03:53.24 | AnduinLothar | like you can if the child isn't anchored to the parent |
| 03:53.27 | Tekkub | I thought it used to be till they did the loop checks |
| 03:53.51 | AnduinLothar | iono |
| 03:53.59 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 03:54.04 | Corr-work | if you don't anchor parents to their children, the children can be kidnapped, and then you need a CHILD LOCATOR powered by DURACELL BATTERIES |
| 03:54.07 | Tekkub | just make another frame and anchor that |
| 03:54.36 | AnduinLothar | i had a similar problem recently |
| 03:54.43 | AnduinLothar | but it was with a stupid FontString |
| 03:55.00 | AnduinLothar | and wanting to anchor things to the bottom or it given variable height |
| 03:55.18 | abyx | how'd you do it? |
| 03:55.39 | AnduinLothar | ended up having to set the width of the frame onshow, but i think that wont help you |
| 03:56.03 | AnduinLothar | tho you can set the size of the parent onshow of the child |
| 03:56.15 | Lothaer | any of you ace savy peeps wanna give me a hand please? |
| 03:56.25 | AnduinLothar | try #wowace |
| 03:56.35 | Lothaer | true lol |
| 03:56.36 | Tekkub | what he saided |
| 03:57.20 | AnduinLothar | my problem was that FontStrings have a crappy GetWidth |
| 03:57.38 | AnduinLothar | and GetLeft/Right don't work till shown |
| 03:57.49 | AnduinLothar | so i had to wait till onshow to calculate the width |
| 03:58.00 | AnduinLothar | so that the FontString would wrap |
| 03:58.49 | AnduinLothar | anyway, fixing sizes onshow is sometimes the best you can do |
| 03:59.17 | AnduinLothar | or whenever you change the size of the frame after onshow |
| 04:18.23 | Lothaer | i think imma skip the upgrade lol, its not broke so dont fix it :D |
| 04:19.04 | AnduinLothar | of what, ace3? |
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| 04:29.29 | Tem | !g ballmer peak |
| 04:29.30 | batbot | Tem: xkcd - A Webcomic - Ballmer Peak <http://xkcd.com/323/> |
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| 04:54.05 | Lothaer | AunduinLothar: i was trying to change from Ace2 to Ace3 |
| 04:58.33 | cogwheel | so. much. pie |
| 04:58.35 | cogwheel | . |
| 04:58.41 | AnduinLothar | wtb more pie |
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| 04:59.01 | cogwheel | last night they had dutch apple, blackberry, pecan, mincemeat, some sort of creme pie i can't remember... oh and pumpkin cheesecake |
| 04:59.10 | cogwheel | then tonight at my grandma's she had cranberry nut and pumpkin (both 100% from scratch with organic ingredients) |
| 04:59.30 | AnduinLothar | hmmm we had pumpkin cheesecake too |
| 04:59.35 | AnduinLothar | and chocolate and apple |
| 04:59.38 | cogwheel | from the cheesecake factory? |
| 04:59.46 | AnduinLothar | no, my sis made it |
| 04:59.55 | cogwheel | oh good |
| 05:00.04 | AnduinLothar | my mom made theother 2 |
| 05:00.05 | Lothaer | pie floater is freaking awesome |
| 05:00.09 | cogwheel | i was a bit disappointed by how much packaged stuff we had last night |
| 05:00.25 | AnduinLothar | my mother made almost everything last night it was fabulous |
| 05:00.37 | cogwheel | same with my grandma's tonight |
| 05:01.04 | cogwheel | though this is like the first year she actually delegated and didn't totally stress herself out \o/ |
| 05:01.11 | AnduinLothar | she has some rolls she makes just for thanksgiving and xmas and they're just to die for |
| 05:01.32 | AnduinLothar | and she makes chocolate pie jsut for me cause she knows i'm a chocoholic |
| 05:02.02 | AnduinLothar | <3 darkmeat |
| 05:02.12 | Tekkub | 9" |
| 05:02.15 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:02.26 | cogwheel | oh and the turkey was barbecued with 4 bottles of wine as basting |
| 05:02.34 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 05:02.34 | Tekkub | although the little coarse curly chesthairs are weird |
| 05:04.17 | Corr-work | http://www.cracked.com/article_16782_6-ways-world-warcraft-worse-than-real-life.html |
| 05:08.13 | AnduinLothar | true storry ^^ |
| 05:08.24 | AnduinLothar | apping to guilds sucks ass |
| 05:08.38 | AnduinLothar | someone needs to regulate it |
| 05:08.57 | Corr-work | probably does. come to think of it, i never made an actual application myself, but i saw people apply after the policy was finalized |
| 05:09.24 | AnduinLothar | I've been in dozens of guilds and apps to way too many |
| 05:09.46 | Corr-work | that's a lot of guilds |
| 05:10.05 | AnduinLothar | and been dumped after spending a month with some hardcore guilds cause they didn't like me or found someone better |
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| 05:10.30 | AnduinLothar | it's cut throat bullshit |
| 05:11.11 | AnduinLothar | and before 3.0 apping as a ret pally was nearly impossible |
| 05:11.21 | AnduinLothar | before 2.4 it WAS impossible |
| 05:12.06 | AnduinLothar | had to app as an 'i have gear for all 3 specs' pally |
| 05:12.55 | Corr-work | questionable, or hard-to-communicate, class usefulness was a big thing all right |
| 05:13.15 | Corr-work | consumables and farming were mostly what drove me mad |
| 05:18.52 | Arrowmaster | so my uncle is in town and i had a laptop with me at a relatives and he had me search for something to show the rest of the family that was there, it ended up being http://www.multicians.org/mga.html#ABSI |
| 05:19.04 | Arrowmaster | take a guess which part of that entry it was |
| 05:20.23 | Corr-work | um... "several other Multics machines wanted one"? |
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| 05:20.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:21.11 | Arrowmaster | little lower |
| 05:22.00 | Corr-work | uh. |
| 05:22.13 | Corr-work | nothing here really stands out to me |
| 05:23.30 | NightHawkTheSane | your uncle is Doug Wells? |
| 05:23.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:24.16 | Corr-work | having gained this knowledge, i will guess that the part he wanted to show them was the stuff about him? |
| 05:24.38 | Arrowmaster | well not really about him |
| 05:24.55 | Arrowmaster | but my dad |
| 05:25.31 | Corr-work | Fred, then? |
| 05:25.42 | Corr-work | if not, i cannot imagine where this is going |
| 05:25.43 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:25.49 | NightHawkTheSane | (i thought that bit was obvious) |
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| 05:26.27 | abyx | how do i set a buttons texture from lua? for each of its phases |
| 05:26.59 | abyx | like the highlight, and mousedown textures |
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| 05:27.07 | Corr-work | i don't see how it's obvious :| |
| 05:27.24 | Corr-work | "my uncle wanted to show my family something in this article. it's this part about Fred, duh." |
| 05:27.43 | Corr-work | "Who's Fred? isn't it obvious?" |
| 05:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | its obvious if you use a little bit of deduction |
| 05:28.36 | Corr-work | deduction of what? we don't know who the uncle is from the question |
| 05:28.48 | mikma | cake. the other white meat. |
| 05:28.52 | Arrowmaster | ...... |
| 05:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Corr-work: you |
| 05:29.09 | NightHawkTheSane | you're being intentionally obtuse. :P |
| 05:29.38 | Corr-work | sorry, it's not intentional. how did you figure out that his uncle is Doug Wells? |
| 05:30.15 | abyx | so about that button thing |
| 05:30.24 | Arrowmaster | you are dense |
| 05:30.37 | Corr-work | i know. you didn't answer the question, though. |
| 05:31.02 | abyx | i saw no question |
| 05:31.03 | abyx | fromm you |
| 05:31.10 | NightHawkTheSane | well, he said his uncle pointed out the page to specifically show them that passage. That passage is the only one that would be of any meaning to someone of a non-technical nature, so it's a good guess that Arrowmaster's family is somehow related to 'doug wells'. |
| 05:31.39 | Corr-work | interesting |
| 05:31.51 | Arrowmaster | and it mentions a sister |
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| 05:32.30 | Corr-work | hey, that's fine with me. i accept the answer. i don't think in terms of families or technical background, so i certainly wouldn't make such assumptions. |
| 05:32.32 | Arrowmaster | and if that sister had a child he would be an uncle |
| 05:34.05 | Corr-work | i'll point out here that it doesn't say they had a child. |
| 05:34.20 | Arrowmaster | /facepalm |
| 05:34.26 | NightHawkTheSane | you're the kind of person who needs pictures drawn for you, aren't you? :P |
| 05:35.15 | Corr-work | whatever, dude, insulting me won't change the response. i don't think it's such a clear connection that the ONLY thing an uncle could care about, among these four things, is a bit about doug wells and his sister's fiancee. |
| 05:36.09 | Corr-work | or rather, the only thing he could think other people care about |
| 05:36.30 | Arrowmaster | i think its rather clear |
| 05:36.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Actually, I think it would be the only thing his sister, and her husband fred, would care about. |
| 05:36.43 | Arrowmaster | since its the only 'why the fuck is that mentioned' entry |
| 05:36.47 | abyx | are you still talking about this random offtopic thing? |
| 05:37.59 | Corr-work | you mean the only entry with some information that doesn't seem to be directly related? |
| 05:41.57 | Corr-work | well, i guess that's reasonable, in a way. |
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| 05:43.24 | |Jelly| | "2| [Tarasso]: LFM FOR THE HORDE NEED AT LEAST ONE 80 !" <-- setting up for failure |
| 05:43.43 | abyx | what is one 80 gonna do? |
| 05:43.48 | abyx | lead them to victory? |
| 05:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | 'For The Horde'? the Level 60 quest in UBRS? |
| 05:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | the one that two idiots and a monkey could have three manned at 70? |
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| 05:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, who has setup Macaroon as a pet bar before? |
| 05:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm following the FAQ and it isn't working |
| 06:07.41 | mikma | errrr, whats this "bronze mustache" thing in china+wow |
| 06:08.18 | Corr-work | i have no idea |
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| 06:11.16 | Wobin | http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2596/featureiu1.jpg |
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| 06:14.49 | |Jelly| | http://i37.tinypic.com/28ulpw8.jpg anyone ever see that happen to their raidframes? |
| 06:19.25 | AnduinLothar | looks like perfectraid with a font mod |
| 06:20.03 | |Jelly| | I mean how some of them are black, no names, etc |
| 06:20.08 | AnduinLothar | looks liek the health bars are hidden or beihind the bg |
| 06:20.16 | AnduinLothar | the names are next to it.. |
| 06:20.47 | |Jelly| | The third down from the top is both black and has no name ... |
| 06:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know what ActionIDs the VehicleUI uses? |
| 06:23.53 | Thunder_Child | the BMW ID's |
| 06:25.58 | Thunder_Child | E class, S class |
| 06:26.03 | ccox | BUUUUUURRRRPPP |
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| 06:30.05 | Thunder_Child | ~burp ccox |
| 06:30.21 | Thunder_Child | you fail me yet again purl |
| 06:30.33 | ccox | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 06:30.34 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 06:30.43 | Thunder_Child | no, purl failed me |
| 06:30.55 | ccox | ~fail purl |
| 06:30.56 | purl | purl, you Fail! |
| 06:31.07 | ccox | ~purlfail |
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| 06:48.08 | Tekkub | this is horrible |
| 06:48.09 | Tekkub | http://denver.craigslist.org/m4m/937616112.html |
| 06:48.18 | Tekkub | he's a furry... that doesn't like hair! |
| 06:53.06 | Corr-work2 | this has to be a troll. he wants a submissive master, he says. |
| 06:55.09 | Tekkub | typical conversation in my house... Trey: I'm going to go stick medication in my ass. Pip: I'm getting ice cream |
| 07:04.40 | abyx | wat |
| 07:08.19 | abyx | how do i set a texture to a button? |
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| 07:56.13 | bleeter | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=steam_confirmation&num=1 |
| 07:56.16 | bleeter | take that, blizz |
| 07:56.18 | bleeter | fuck yeah |
| 08:07.14 | KernalKrunK | Bleeter that link is pretty cool how did you find it? |
| 08:17.32 | Thunder_Child | KernalKrunK, he sold his soul |
| 08:17.44 | Thunder_Child | (it wasnt worth much at this point though) |
| 08:24.18 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: never was in the first place |
| 08:24.45 | bleeter | KernalKrunK: mate of mine in another # posted the news story, I've been an infrequent reader of phoronix for some time |
| 08:26.09 | bleeter | KernalKrunK: phrononix were the guys who carried the initial AMD/ATI open sourcing their specs story, iirc |
| 08:26.46 | bleeter | *WHERE ARE YOU NVIDIA??* |
| 08:27.09 | Thunder_Child | swimming in their piles of money |
| 08:27.29 | KernalKrunK | lol |
| 08:28.39 | KernalKrunK | Would you guys know of an channel where I could get some help with setting up an ui? |
| 08:29.16 | Tem | this channel is a good place to start, KernalKrunK |
| 08:29.16 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: like asus with their busybox EEPROM foo, eh? :P |
| 08:29.23 | Tem | we're pretty forgiving as long as you've RTFMed |
| 08:29.33 | KernalKrunK | lol |
| 08:29.42 | Thunder_Child | Tem, spell out that acronym and slap yourself |
| 08:29.53 | KernalKrunK | lol |
| 08:30.06 | Tem | Thunder_Child, are you in any channels that I have ops in? I want to kick you in the nads |
| 08:30.10 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, huh, what? |
| 08:30.12 | KernalKrunK | kk Ive been fooling arround with addons for a while now |
| 08:30.24 | Thunder_Child | Tem, point me in the direction of one and i will |
| 08:30.30 | Tem | #dongle |
| 08:30.34 | KernalKrunK | but Ive kinda been using Mazzle prior to 3.0 and now Arkive ui |
| 08:30.56 | KernalKrunK | but they are really really heavy on system resourses |
| 08:30.57 | Thunder_Child | feel better Tem? |
| 08:31.01 | Tem | I do |
| 08:31.11 | Thunder_Child | good |
| 08:31.35 | KernalKrunK | so Ive gotten this pack hoping to have a minimal setup http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11765-aUiwide1680x1050.html |
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| 08:32.10 | KernalKrunK | long story short there isnt a "Do it all for me" button and I kinda dont know where to start |
| 08:32.10 | Thunder_Child | dont want to make your own? |
| 08:32.24 | KernalKrunK | I wouldnt know where to start... |
| 08:32.31 | KernalKrunK | or what to get |
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| 08:33.02 | KernalKrunK | I know lame ass sap story |
| 08:33.24 | KernalKrunK | but Ive tried to no avail |
| 08:34.32 | KernalKrunK | lol been spoiled rotten by mazzle and arkive :/ |
| 08:35.12 | Thunder_Child | cant help ya. i make my own so i dont know whats what with them |
| 08:35.34 | Thunder_Child | "Is it right that i like to ware women's under-ware for my sunday roast?" |
| 08:36.03 | KernalKrunK | well where would you begin,,, wait what? -_- |
| 08:36.22 | Thunder_Child | this is what i get for trying to help people on yahoo answers |
| 08:36.25 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 08:36.42 | Thunder_Child | anyway, i would begin by getting an addon pack that i like |
| 08:36.45 | KernalKrunK | ./facepalm |
| 08:37.09 | Thunder_Child | then i would install it |
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| 08:42.13 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: never was worth much... /sigh nm : |
| 08:42.25 | bleeter | omg it's sixen... FLEEEE |
| 08:43.30 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, your repeating yourself |
| 08:44.47 | bleeter | *you're |
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| 09:01.07 | KernalKrunK | ahahaha on my server Detheroc there is a horde raid in IF |
| 09:01.24 | KernalKrunK | trying to kill Bronzebeard |
| 09:03.33 | KernalKrunK | shit I think they are gonna pull it off :/ |
| 09:07.54 | Tem | find a priest |
| 09:07.59 | Tem | spec 51 points into holy |
| 09:08.09 | Tem | cast guardian spirit |
| 09:08.11 | Shirik | guardian spirit |
| 09:08.12 | Shirik | lmao |
| 09:08.12 | Tem | ??? |
| 09:08.14 | Tem | profit |
| 09:08.18 | Shirik | but you would have to time it very well |
| 09:08.22 | Shirik | it only lasts 10 sec or so |
| 09:08.37 | Shirik | that being said, night! |
| 09:08.38 | Thunder_Child | Find a Priest |
| 09:08.46 | Thunder_Child | Get Sodimized |
| 09:08.48 | Thunder_Child | SUe |
| 09:08.51 | KernalKrunK | night shirik |
| 09:08.52 | Shirik | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 09:08.52 | purl | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats Thunder_Child until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
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| 09:08.54 | Thunder_Child | Profit |
| 09:09.00 | Thunder_Child | i win |
| 09:10.24 | KernalKrunK | damn this is sooo sad :( |
| 09:10.31 | KernalKrunK | alli on this server suck hard |
| 09:11.36 | abyx | how do i make a button with custom textures? i can't find it -_- |
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| 09:21.23 | abyx | why couldn't i find SetNormalTexture, SetPushedTexture and SetHighlightTerxture anywhere in the wiki? |
| 09:21.34 | AnduinLothar | add them? |
| 09:21.57 | AnduinLothar | wiki is a wiki. things only get on it if people put them there |
| 09:22.17 | abyx | they're on wowwiki but not the WidgetAPI page |
| 09:22.24 | Arrowmaster | yes they are |
| 09:22.37 | Arrowmaster | im looking at them right now |
| 09:22.52 | abyx | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API ctrl-f setnormaltexture = nothing |
| 09:23.05 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 09:23.07 | abyx | err thats the api |
| 09:23.20 | abyx | sigh |
| 09:23.55 | AnduinLothar | api != widget api |
| 09:24.20 | abyx | i know |
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| 09:44.20 | abyx | how do you set a minimum size on frame? |
| 09:44.49 | abyx | or stop resizing past height/width of 0 |
| 09:55.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm weird bug... from a dropdown menu the passed button to the onclick func has it's button.text set to the last tooltip you saw |
| 09:55.53 | AnduinLothar | maybe my code's broken |
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| 10:49.47 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/november/greenprotodrake.jpg |
| 10:56.42 | abyx | are dropdown menus hard to create/use? |
| 10:57.22 | AnduinLothar | depends on your definition of 'use' and 'hard' |
| 10:57.25 | abyx | mikma: if protodrakes didn't have broken backs and fly crooked they would be cooler |
| 10:57.41 | abyx | well do they a learning curve similar to an inverted L ? |
| 10:57.45 | abyx | have* |
| 10:58.31 | AnduinLothar | my brain is too tired to answer that |
| 11:00.17 | haste | dropdowns are pretty much straight forward |
| 11:01.39 | AnduinLothar | i've had the dropdown section in WoW Programming open next to me all night... |
| 11:01.59 | AnduinLothar | but then i've been doing a little more than making dropdowns |
| 11:03.17 | AnduinLothar | and all the retarded little UIDropDownMenu_ functions make me want to scream. they should have just added widget functions to the dropdown frame. |
| 11:04.31 | abyx | while you're here maybe you can tell me how to set a minimum size on a frame? I have a resizable frame and it is resized by :StartResize() but i don't want it to resize into negative width/height |
| 11:04.57 | AnduinLothar | there's something for that.. |
| 11:05.11 | abyx | i assumed that much.... i just don't know what to look for |
| 11:05.12 | AnduinLothar | but i cant think of it |
| 11:05.33 | abyx | Frame:SetMaxResize(maxWidth, maxHeight) found it |
| 11:05.46 | abyx | s/max/min/ |
| 11:06.23 | AnduinLothar | ya http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetMinResize |
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| 12:00.30 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://community.livejournal.com/food_porn/4993098.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 12:00.47 | Cairenn | awww |
| 12:00.47 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 12:01.14 | mikma | looks delicious |
| 12:04.53 | AnduinLothar | what time is it there, Cairenn? |
| 12:05.01 | Cairenn | 7am |
| 12:05.08 | AnduinLothar | did you sleep? |
| 12:05.14 | Cairenn | not yet |
| 12:05.18 | AnduinLothar | >.< |
| 12:06.25 | zenzelezz | you kids these days, partying all night |
| 12:08.03 | abyx | i've been up all night as well >_> but i'm back with another question :D |
| 12:08.17 | AnduinLothar | I've been partying with dropdowns |
| 12:08.20 | abyx | Whats the best way to make buttons dynamically resize themselves based on the parent frame? |
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| 12:08.58 | AnduinLothar | when what happens ont he parent frame? |
| 12:09.05 | abyx | i have a resizable frame that roughly resembles an AIM message window with 3 buttons lined up horizontally across the bottom. when the user resizes the frame i'd like for the buttons to have a minimum size |
| 12:09.30 | abyx | but normally the buttons are bigger than the minimum size... if that makes sense |
| 12:10.10 | AnduinLothar | just set a min size on the parent frame, then resize the buttons OnUpdate while resizing the parent |
| 12:10.39 | AnduinLothar | or... |
| 12:10.48 | AnduinLothar | might be easier to anchor the buttons to eachother |
| 12:11.11 | abyx | thats what i'm doing right now but i've done it wrong so only the middle of the 3 buttons resizes |
| 12:11.14 | AnduinLothar | not sure if that would work with a middle button tho.. |
| 12:11.24 | AnduinLothar | ya.. |
| 12:11.36 | AnduinLothar | not sure if that works |
| 12:11.56 | abyx | i'm thinking i'm going to have to make the buttons static size and just make the minimum width of the parent frame = the sum of the width of the 3 buttons |
| 12:12.14 | AnduinLothar | that works |
| 12:12.26 | AnduinLothar | and you can anchor the middle button to the center bottom |
| 12:12.43 | AnduinLothar | then at least the space between the buttons will change |
| 12:17.31 | Cairenn | speaking of the time .... |
| 12:17.44 | Cairenn|afk | night guys |
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| 12:46.33 | bcsbcs | gnight |
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| 13:09.41 | abyx | tabs are just buttons that look fancy and hide/show frames, right? |
| 13:10.14 | nevcairiel | you could say that |
| 13:10.36 | abyx | i mean there isn't a "tab" type of frame is there? |
| 13:10.43 | abyx | widget i should call it |
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| 13:30.30 | AnduinLothar | no it's just a button |
| 13:30.54 | AnduinLothar | Woot, Portfolio madness! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11749-Portfolio.html |
| 13:31.53 | AnduinLothar | Dropdowns 4U |
| 13:32.24 | AnduinLothar | ergs. that page is almost big enough to need a TOC |
| 13:32.37 | AnduinLothar | ok sleep time.. |
| 13:32.50 | nevcairiel | imho you should move the API docs to some extra page or something |
| 13:33.05 | nevcairiel | or ship them in some text file with the zip |
| 13:33.24 | AnduinLothar | maybe. |
| 13:34.28 | AnduinLothar | but then I'd need some place to put them |
| 13:36.08 | AnduinLothar | don't particularly like text formatted docs. tho i could do an rtf |
| 13:36.27 | abyx | hmm so those are called portfolios eh |
| 13:36.40 | AnduinLothar | mmm, if you want :) |
| 13:36.47 | AnduinLothar | i made up the name |
| 13:36.59 | abyx | interface option creation utility. is it hard to make them normally? |
| 13:37.33 | AnduinLothar | um, the utility or the implementing addons? |
| 13:38.05 | abyx | uhh to make the interface options frame without using your addon i mean |
| 13:39.35 | AnduinLothar | it's not particularly hard, it's jsut not very well documented and requires making frames and controls and registering them and having the appropriate values set on your frames so that the blizz code knows what to do with them. |
| 13:39.59 | abyx | hmm, i see |
| 13:41.07 | AnduinLothar | I find table formatted UI option registration a whole lot easier to maintain. But then again I'm also maintaining the lib, which is about 10x more complicated. So it's not really 'easier' for me at all. But hopefully it'll be easier for other people. |
| 13:44.45 | AnduinLothar | and makign new ones will still be easier for me |
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| 13:57.00 | foxlit | "it's jsut not very well documented" << Everything you need to know is summarized within a few paragraphs of FrameXML? |
| 14:01.40 | Adys | how would i uppercase the first letter in a string in lua? |
| 14:03.15 | cbreak | cut it away, and then string.upper the first letter |
| 14:03.22 | cbreak | and put together with the rest |
| 14:03.50 | Adys | ah |
| 14:03.51 | abyx | well... i'm not sure if a function exists but.. i would do it something like this: string.upper(string.sub(str,1,1))..string.sub(str,2) |
| 14:03.54 | Adys | theres no function for it? |
| 14:03.59 | Adys | mm ok |
| 14:04.10 | cbreak | there's string.upper |
| 14:04.11 | abyx | ah i forgot the ending ) on that too |
| 14:04.24 | abyx | wait, no i didn't |
| 14:04.28 | cbreak | and string.sub too :) |
| 14:07.55 | cbreak | hmm... using portfolio would tripple the size of most of my addons :/ |
| 14:08.51 | cbreak | on the other hand, they only have slash command options so far |
| 14:09.43 | abyx | lol |
| 14:10.24 | abyx | i just make one function that creates a basic frame with nothing on it and have it return a pointer to that frame (not exactly a pointer... but whatever lua calls it) and then i add whatever stuff i need from there |
| 14:10.43 | abyx | which, for option frames, is just a few checkboxes and a button or two |
| 14:12.18 | cbreak | hmm... I did use UIDropDown in two. Must have supressed memories of that :/ |
| 14:12.35 | abyx | that bad eh? |
| 14:12.47 | foxlit | "Adys: how would i uppercase the first letter in a string in lua?" |
| 14:12.56 | foxlit | str:gsub("^(%a)", string.upper) |
| 14:13.30 | abyx | foxlit: where can i find info on the pattern syntax for the string functions? |
| 14:13.39 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org |
| 14:13.51 | Adys | thanks foxlit |
| 14:13.57 | foxlit | Or, more specifically, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
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| 14:26.39 | foxlit | The "Windows or Ubunto?" thread on wowi annoys me every time it is replied to :/ |
| 14:26.48 | foxlit | /appears in recent posts. |
| 14:31.17 | Fisker- | WINDOWS |
| 14:31.18 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 14:33.08 | cbreak | why chose? |
| 14:33.15 | cbreak | get a mac and run both in vmware :) |
| 14:33.23 | foxlit | why spell :) |
| 14:33.31 | Fisker- | Or don't get a mac and don't go to hell |
| 14:33.48 | Fisker- | had to be done |
| 14:34.02 | cbreak | what's so bad about hell? |
| 14:34.06 | schnoggo | did not |
| 14:34.18 | schnoggo | all the cool kids are going to hell |
| 14:34.37 | Fisker- | I'll be there cbreak |
| 14:34.47 | cbreak | hmm... |
| 14:34.58 | schnoggo | so get a mac while you're at it :) |
| 14:36.16 | Wobin | =\ |
| 14:36.27 | Wobin | Failed on a UK tanking experience |
| 14:37.01 | Wobin | although I didn't do too badly for a 68 tank =P |
| 14:42.07 | foxlit | Grr. |
| 14:42.10 | foxlit | IsCompanionUsable? |
| 14:43.12 | foxlit | Or, to put that in question form, how do I determine whether a companion can be summoned here and now? |
| 14:44.55 | cbreak | you think about mounts? |
| 14:45.17 | foxlit | Well, both, really |
| 14:45.37 | foxlit | They're on GCD, so I'd like to get at that somehow as well |
| 14:45.47 | foxlit | But yes, mounts have a more obvious failure case |
| 14:45.54 | cbreak | hmm... |
| 14:45.58 | cbreak | you could use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCompanionInfo |
| 14:46.05 | cbreak | and take the spell id, and go from thre |
| 14:46.07 | cbreak | there |
| 14:46.18 | foxlit | Where to? |
| 14:47.18 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellCooldown |
| 14:47.24 | foxlit | doesn't work. |
| 14:47.35 | cbreak | doesn't take spell ids? |
| 14:47.40 | foxlit | No, it doesn't. |
| 14:47.57 | cbreak | you can go over the spell name then |
| 14:47.58 | foxlit | It takes spellbook slot ids (companions are not in spellbook) or spell names (companion spell names are not recognized) |
| 14:48.16 | cbreak | ... |
| 14:48.43 | foxlit | I wouldn't really ask if it was that simple... okay, maybe I would :) |
| 14:49.20 | cbreak | looking at framexml didn't help? |
| 14:49.35 | cbreak | or does the UI not show that data? |
| 14:49.43 | foxlit | The macros do, somehow |
| 14:49.51 | Adys | if i want to check if i got more args to a function, should i do #... or #{...} ? |
| 14:49.59 | foxlit | select("#", ...) |
| 14:50.56 | Adys | hum |
| 14:51.10 | Adys | mkay |
| 14:53.20 | Adys | that worked, cheers |
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| 15:07.26 | foxlit | ah, GetCompanionCooldown |
| 15:13.53 | foxlit | that at least solves the GCD issue. Now to figure out whether they're usable :/ |
| 15:16.34 | Nom- | hmm odd... i can't find a single quest in Sholazar |
| 15:16.47 | zenzelezz | level? |
| 15:17.06 | foxlit | Nom-: start with Dalaran |
| 15:17.09 | Nom- | 80 |
| 15:17.26 | Nom- | I'm 54/75 sholazar |
| 15:17.33 | Nom- | on the acheivement |
| 15:17.37 | Nom- | and i have no quests in there |
| 15:18.08 | Nom- | I think I broke the frenzyheart line |
| 15:19.11 | foxlit | So what did you do last? |
| 15:19.28 | foxlit | There are a bunch of hunting quests culminating with a mammonth ride with Hemet. Did those? |
| 15:19.33 | Nom- | Yep |
| 15:19.39 | Nom- | Got the Hemet acheivement |
| 15:20.07 | foxlit | Freya's quests, culminating with controlling the spawned paladin against a massive amount of scourge? |
| 15:20.52 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/2008/11/cat-plays-whack-mouse.html |
| 15:20.54 | Nom- | yes, done |
| 15:20.56 | foxlit | (well, calling it a paladin is odd, but nevertheless) |
| 15:21.07 | foxlit | So yeah, that should leave you with the Frenzyheart/Oracles? |
| 15:21.11 | foxlit | How far did you get with those? |
| 15:21.49 | Nom- | none at all |
| 15:21.52 | Nom- | i can't find a quest from them |
| 15:21.54 | foxlit | Ah |
| 15:22.01 | foxlit | Okay. River's Heart, been there? |
| 15:22.18 | Pneumatus | you possibly missed the quest giver after doing the rivers heart quest |
| 15:22.33 | Pneumatus | you have to kill something guarded by a few frenzyheart, and once you kill it one of them turns into a giver |
| 15:22.45 | foxlit | One of the people you have to offer your newly-created drink to gives you a kill-this-panther (or something) quest |
| 15:22.53 | foxlit | That's the lead-in you're looking for. |
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| 15:25.06 | Nom- | Done that |
| 15:25.31 | Nom- | I know the spot you're talking about... there's 3 frenzyheart with a tiger |
| 15:25.37 | Nom- | no dice |
| 15:25.43 | foxlit | Yeah, and the frenzyheart give you a quest once you kill the tiger. |
| 15:25.51 | Nom- | yeah, no quest |
| 15:25.59 | foxlit | Kill the panther again, if it persists, go bug a GM :) |
| 15:26.04 | Pneumatus | Tracker Gekgek should have given you the quest |
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| 15:30.44 | Nom- | Yes, and I did it |
| 15:35.41 | mikma | wtb and addon that shows only Daily quests in questlog |
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| 15:43.33 | ReAn | Any WoWI Admin Lurking? |
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| 16:45.34 | Fisker- | it's Shirik, get him! |
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| 17:42.32 | Industrial | http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/315691/4933c88c/uw_vrijdag_wtf_1_.html |
| 17:42.34 | Industrial | aaah lol |
| 17:42.43 | Industrial | lazytown feat lil jon |
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| 18:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm nothing quite like realm forum trolls in a recruitment thread! |
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| 19:13.44 | zenzelezz | hm, a death knight named "Fluffyknight" just became realm first Northern Vanguard o_O |
| 19:15.26 | Tuller | I saw a dk with the bloodsail title in northrend the other day |
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| 19:28.01 | mikma | tuller: lyn has one |
| 19:28.17 | mikma | lynwürst |
| 19:36.22 | Lyn | mikma, i have a big... cow |
| 19:36.25 | Lyn | Tuller, i have yes |
| 19:36.28 | Lyn | AND! |
| 19:36.30 | Lyn | black war bear! |
| 19:36.38 | Tuller | nachos |
| 19:37.29 | Tuller | yay, tricks of the trade |
| 19:37.33 | Lyn | i want pizza |
| 19:37.33 | Lyn | :< |
| 19:37.44 | Lyn | but i am to lazy to put it in the oven |
| 19:37.53 | Tuller | its like, every character I have, blizzard gives me a way to kill my friends with |
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| 19:48.50 | Fisker- | it's Tekkub, get him! |
| 19:50.18 | Fisker- | highly inappropiate Industrial |
| 19:50.22 | Fisker- | that's just how i like it |
| 19:52.16 | mikma | lyn: meh meh ima thinking about getting a pizza! |
| 19:52.26 | Lyn | :O |
| 19:53.39 | mikma | i'm currently playing with wtbblue.com's leveling guide.. it has all these nice things, like: "take quest Mystery of the Infinite, Redux" marked in place lvl71+ (Dragonblight) |
| 19:53.51 | mikma | when you check more about it, the quest is available only for lvl80 |
| 19:57.52 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40238 :D |
| 19:58.18 | mikma | fisker-: you and your silly mirc |
| 19:58.39 | ckknight | is there any way yet to get the name of a mob knowing only its mobID? |
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| 19:59.24 | Fisker- | you have no proof Mikk |
| 19:59.25 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 19:59.28 | Fisker- | mikma* |
| 19:59.34 | Fisker- | nymbia fix pt3bar :( |
| 19:59.39 | Fisker- | and i will consider letting you live |
| 19:59.51 | Mikk | stop pinging me failfisk |
| 19:59.59 | mikma | i just love it when mikk takes all the blame |
| 20:00.20 | Fisker- | Mikk is responsible for everythinkg mikma and mikord does |
| 20:00.28 | Fisker- | everything* |
| 20:00.37 | Mikk | i dont have enough ops in this channel |
| 20:03.09 | nymbia | Fisker-: you havent fixed it yet? |
| 20:03.12 | nymbia | slacker. |
| 20:04.34 | Fisker- | i'm busy harassing you :( |
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| 20:07.22 | Shirik | rawr |
| 20:07.26 | Shirik | I just had to write VB code for my grandfather :( |
| 20:07.52 | mikma | uuh, i love it when you talk dirty |
| 20:07.54 | zenzelezz | tell him to do his own homework |
| 20:09.52 | Fisker- | clad|away should make a song for addon making |
| 20:12.09 | Industrial | Fisker-: your mother |
| 20:12.36 | Industrial | i dont know what or why but its her. |
| 20:12.57 | Fisker- | no u |
| 20:14.06 | schnoggo | but the real question.... What percentage of addon authors play gnome engineers? |
| 20:14.17 | ScytheBlade1 | At least one |
| 20:14.45 | schnoggo | i suspect that particular class/profession would be over-represented |
| 20:16.55 | Industrial | maybe in rpland |
| 20:16.56 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:18.58 | ScytheBlade1 | http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1045619&cid=25925149 <-- it's not the comment or the replies which make this entertaining.. it's the moderation |
| 20:19.46 | Shirik | <-- BE Priest Tailor/Alchemist and proud of it |
| 20:21.34 | Fisker- | BE Paladin Tailor/Enchanter and prouder of it |
| 20:21.51 | Fisker- | i'm also a better person than Shirik |
| 20:21.51 | Fisker- | :3 |
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| 20:28.28 | bcsbcs | greetings all, could someone give me a few pointers on going about adding an ability for alt-clicking an item to pass the item-id to a function please? |
| 20:33.39 | Slakah | alt-clicking an item in the bag frame? |
| 20:34.47 | bcsbcs | yes |
| 20:41.02 | End | is there something wrong with the fact that I miss blessing of salvation? :( |
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| 20:41.56 | ccox | Death Knight - overall, fun and good |
| 20:42.10 | ccox | levelling a tradeskill on a DK - slow and painful |
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| 20:45.18 | amro | bleeter, other wine users: ping |
| 20:45.22 | NightHawkTheSane | no more or less than grinding a new profession on any other 60+ toon |
| 20:48.07 | Tekkub | I can only see leveling a gathering prof on DK as painful |
| 20:48.35 | Tekkub | but then, I'm biased to production crafts cause they make damn good money with less effort |
| 20:50.33 | ccox | NightHawkTheSane: more, since you start from zero |
| 20:50.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: how is that different than a 60+ toon dropping a tradeskill, and leveling a new one? |
| 20:50.53 | ccox | Tekkub - production is painful to (to buy the mats, or find them) |
| 20:50.58 | bcsbcs | Tekkub could I bug you again to give me a few pointers on going about adding an ability for alt-clicking an item to pass the item-id to a function please? |
| 20:51.07 | ccox | NightHawkTheSane: in that case it isn't different, but I level skills with the toon |
| 20:51.27 | Tekkub | buying mats ain't painful if you pay attention to shit |
| 20:51.40 | Tem | auctioneer is giving me a new perspective on production skills |
| 20:51.46 | Tekkub | I was making money even when the NR herbs were horribly overpriced :P |
| 20:51.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: Yeah, i'm just saying, people DO drop trade skills and pick up entirely new ones on their already-max-level toons. It's really no different than that. A bit slow and painful, sure, but not unique to the DK |
| 20:52.05 | Tem | I've leveled 2 toons to 100 inscription / 125 enchanting for "free" in the last day |
| 20:52.19 | Tekkub | bcsbcs, uh, look at an addon that hooks item clicks |
| 20:52.26 | Tem | and I haven't seen anything to indicate that I couldn't continue to do that at higher levels |
| 20:52.49 | ccox | Tem - I did manage 350 mining in a day (a whole day) |
| 20:53.01 | ccox | But jewelcrafting is a !@#$%@#$% |
| 20:53.08 | ccox | the mats aren't even on the AH to buy |
| 20:53.11 | Tem | JC was painful |
| 20:53.13 | Slakah | bcsbcs: http://pastey.net/103216 should do it |
| 20:53.14 | Tem | very painful |
| 20:53.27 | Tekkub | JC in BC sucked cause you had to buy the rare recipies |
| 20:53.32 | Tem | Mining up to 300 is fucking lame |
| 20:53.34 | Tekkub | that took quite some time to do |
| 20:53.43 | amro | grinding a tradeskill or grinding to 55? I'll take the tradeskill grind |
| 20:54.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 20:54.14 | End | JC is kinda annoying |
| 20:54.22 | Tem | I'd rather grind for the amount of time it takes to do the tradeskill instead |
| 20:54.26 | End | dragon's eyes are great, except you sacrifice getting rare recipies |
| 20:54.32 | bcsbcs | okies, Jewelcrafting gonna get harder to level as you need recipies from zones that will not be visited so much now lichking expansion is out |
| 20:54.50 | End | well, you can start cutting northrend stuff at 350 |
| 20:54.50 | Tem | grinding exp is way more fun than grinding a tradeskill |
| 20:55.01 | Tem | just the fsking time |
| 20:56.57 | foxlit | Grr, 2px tiled horizontal line backgrounds are annoying |
| 20:57.09 | foxlit | In that the flicker while scrolling :/ |
| 21:06.17 | |pez| | Oh, I imagine leveling a tradeskill as DK is awesome. |
| 21:06.22 | |pez| | Just do gathering skills. :P |
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| 21:08.16 | mikma | i got herbalism and skinning :O |
| 21:08.38 | mikma | but haven't bothered raising them further than 161 and 225 |
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| 21:18.43 | AnduinLothar | foxlit: How to make a panel is documented in blizzard code, yes. but it tells you next to nothing about how to make or manage different option types. You could call it flexible in it's freedom. It gives you a place to put your options, it doesn't give you a tool for making options simpler. |
| 21:26.32 | foxlit | It'd be presumptuous to suggest that they can provide a framework for any and all types of configuration imaginable. |
| 21:26.45 | AnduinLothar | did I say it did? |
| 21:27.31 | foxlit | Your "not documented" complaint is only valid if you're annoyed at them at not providing a tutorial on how to make configuration controls. |
| 21:28.16 | AnduinLothar | they provide 3 control types. they should have documented how to use them |
| 21:28.47 | foxlit | They _use_ |
| 21:28.50 | foxlit | not provide :) |
| 21:29.09 | AnduinLothar | ok fine, they don't provide any, happy? |
| 21:29.33 | AnduinLothar | it's not an option management scheme, it's a panel management |
| 21:29.52 | foxlit | which is documented well. Happy :) |
| 21:30.43 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm.. cranberries and stuffing |
| 21:31.40 | AnduinLothar | the problem is they've written half of an option management scheme and use it for their own options, but it's not robust and isn't documented |
| 21:32.23 | foxlit | Chances are you'd have to write custom code for your configuration anyway |
| 21:32.28 | foxlit | You might as well write all of it :) |
| 21:32.40 | amro | foxlit you're not really arguing anything here |
| 21:32.55 | AnduinLothar | if that's what you want to do, knock yourself out |
| 21:33.28 | mikma | fisker-: i have pizza! |
| 21:33.59 | AnduinLothar | i'm not prohibiting anyone from using it, I'm just providing an option management scheme that actually works, and should be sufficient for most use cases. |
| 21:35.30 | Fisker- | mikma it's evidence now |
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| 21:42.03 | bleeter | amro: I prolly have nfi, but pong nevertheless :) |
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| 21:52.53 | amro | bleeter: I'm getting a strange error: http://www.mninja.org/wowerror.png this does not happen when running from the same directory from windows |
| 21:53.01 | amro | have you ever seen anything like it? |
| 21:56.39 | Fisker- | it's ubuntu |
| 21:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Your datafiles are corrupt |
| 21:57.08 | ScytheBlade1 | You win repair.exe or reinstall |
| 21:57.23 | zenzelezz | but if it works from Windows on the same files? |
| 21:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Then recopy your MPQs over |
| 21:57.59 | zenzelezz | I thought he was saying he ran from the exact same files; not copied or anything... maybe I misunderstood |
| 21:58.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Then it could be any number of things =[ |
| 21:58.28 | amro | yes I tried from the same files, tried copying them over to ext3 just in case, ran repair.exe multiple times etc |
| 21:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Update your copy of wine or build it from source |
| 21:58.49 | amro | i'm fairly certain that a reinstall from wine would fix it, but the wotlk downloader-installer doesn't work form there |
| 21:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It doesn't? It does for me |
| 21:59.03 | amro | nope it's not wine either, I have the latest git |
| 21:59.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again my WoW works :D |
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| 22:02.12 | NightHawkTheSane | what's the expertise cap for tanks these days? |
| 22:04.05 | bleeter | amro: stupid question probably, but what's your LC_LANG set to? Just wondering if it's some weirdass environment thing you're hitting |
| 22:06.25 | matt1s | Where is the horde graveyard in desolace? |
| 22:07.42 | Addybot | kodo graveyard is neutral iirc |
| 22:08.34 | amro | bleeter: doesn't seem to be setto anything |
| 22:08.34 | matt1s | ah so we have the same gy? |
| 22:10.28 | amro | yep just the one in the kodo gy |
| 22:11.00 | bleeter | amro: try setting it to whatever your LANG currently is... if it's always that strings dbc thing giving you issues, well, that's certainly one thing to consider |
| 22:12.25 | foxlit | "You named that Halibut?" |
| 22:13.14 | amro | bleeter: I'd jus tried that, no change |
| 22:13.39 | amro | I'm currently redownloading, but if anyone has suggestions in the meantime they'd be appreciated |
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| 22:18.45 | Industrial | Cairenn: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/306061/fea071af/dumpert_vrede_op_aarde.html |
| 22:19.16 | Cairenn | kittie!!! |
| 22:22.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Woo! Timely Death, done. :) |
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| 22:27.40 | Industrial | SFW PORN http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/250341/238a53d7/keiharde_seventies_pron.html |
| 22:27.51 | Industrial | xD |
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| 22:35.16 | AnduinLothar | anyone know of an addont hat makes a loud alert sound when you're whispered while afk? |
| 22:36.11 | foxlit | Is it just me or do mobs on Northrend tend to desync more? |
| 22:36.29 | Industrial | "desync" ? |
| 22:36.48 | Stanzilla | they evade more often |
| 22:36.50 | foxlit | Client position does not match server position |
| 22:37.13 | foxlit | So you end up with errors like "Target must be in front of you" or "Pet out of range" or "Target out of range" even if none of the conditions are true |
| 22:38.49 | foxlit | packet loss, perhaps |
| 22:39.01 | amro | probably, yell at your isp =) |
| 22:41.34 | foxlit | Could be fun yelling at blizzard devs instead :) |
| 22:41.49 | foxlit | Sounds like a fun client/server problem. |
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| 23:04.09 | AnduinLothar | heh, druid named Beargorawr, love it |
| 23:05.31 | mikma | is there any way of chopping enchatingmaterials/motes/eternals into smaller ones whli guildbank is open? |
| 23:05.59 | AnduinLothar | cant /use anything. you'd have to use the api |
| 23:06.52 | mikma | foxlit: you know why dk's got death grip? because most of the mobs do nasty "out of range" tricks when you try to melee them. death grip -> solved |
| 23:07.41 | mikma | foxlit: this problem has been happening to me all the time in northrend =/ |
| 23:07.50 | Hirsute | mikma: Not that I'm aware of, and that's something that's bugged me, too. Doesn't work while your own bank is open, either. |
| 23:08.16 | mikma | hirsute: aye. always just swapping the items between banks/bags |
| 23:08.28 | foxlit | mikma: outland was fine, I think |
| 23:08.29 | Hirsute | Yeah. Drives me batty. |
| 23:08.51 | Hirsute | Get items from bank, close bank, split/combine, open bank, put items back in bank. |
| 23:08.52 | mikma | foxlit: it was to me, none of the mobs did the same |
| 23:08.55 | Hirsute | Gets old, fast. |
| 23:10.34 | AnduinLothar | i haven't really had that problem at all |
| 23:10.40 | AnduinLothar | probably isp related |
| 23:11.28 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, 25m strath is so easy |
| 23:11.34 | AnduinLothar | as for splitting things, i also find it annoying that you can't link things froma vendor window, it tries to split it |
| 23:12.55 | Hirsute | AnduinLothar: Huh, I've never tried that. |
| 23:13.03 | Fisker- | stop lagging my server haste |
| 23:13.22 | Hirsute | Of course, ever since I started using Linkerator, I seldom shift-click to get links any more. |
| 23:13.33 | AnduinLothar | it might be because i have an addon for improed spltting. i should try and turn it off and see if it still does it |
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| 23:14.29 | mikma | i blame wobin |
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| 23:15.54 | kmcguire | I am not sure. When the WoW client closes are all the lua threads (or currently executing lua functions) allowed to finish execution before it saves the registered variable and terminates? |
| 23:16.29 | kmcguire | Or, can I hook the client shutdown? |
| 23:16.33 | kmcguire | It would seem obvious, but I am just not certain on it. |
| 23:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Define "closes" |
| 23:17.20 | ScytheBlade1 | What are you trying to do? |
| 23:17.35 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/81567153.jpg |
| 23:18.51 | kmcguire | When the client executes a logout, or an exit with no timer. |
| 23:19.24 | kmcguire | They press ESC and choose either logout and Exit Game. |
| 23:19.53 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.02 | AnduinLothar | whats everyone's favorite proc watcher? |
| 23:20.07 | Fisker- | WoW soooo much needs a "Why so srs?"-emote |
| 23:20.46 | Fisker- | so here i am, the smoldering scrap ice obviously bugs |
| 23:20.49 | Fisker- | so i see someone alliance |
| 23:20.59 | Fisker- | He ices his smoldering scrap and i steal it |
| 23:21.26 | Fisker- | and he's like "OMG DIE" |
| 23:21.26 | Fisker- | and i'm like, "why so srs?" |
| 23:21.51 | batrick | no u |
| 23:21.57 | Fisker- | no u |
| 23:22.17 | batrick | NO U |
| 23:22.26 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 23:22.32 | batrick | AM NOT |
| 23:22.52 | Fisker- | still no u :E |
| 23:23.34 | mikma | anduinlothar: err, MSBT shows procs pretty nicely |
| 23:23.42 | Fisker- | remember that as work on monday AnduinLothar |
| 23:23.48 | Fisker- | todo: put /srs emote in the game |
| 23:24.05 | AnduinLothar | i dont work at blizzard :P |
| 23:24.16 | Fisker- | didn't you do at some point? |
| 23:24.22 | AnduinLothar | at one point |
| 23:24.25 | AnduinLothar | QA |
| 23:24.46 | Fisker- | is it true that QA sucks? :P |
| 23:24.51 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 23:24.53 | Fisker- | damn |
| 23:25.05 | AnduinLothar | i mean it's fun for a while, gamign nightshift |
| 23:25.43 | AnduinLothar | gets old pretty quick |
| 23:26.04 | AnduinLothar | tho i did enjoy being able to test SC Ghost before it got scrapped |
| 23:28.19 | Shirik | hrm |
| 23:28.24 | Shirik | I just got an email from one of my students |
| 23:28.29 | Shirik | Help with Final project. need to draw the line when mouse is clicked on the plane.Thanks in advance |
| 23:28.42 | Shirik | I am tempted to respond with "Yes you do need to." |
| 23:29.06 | batrick | you should |
| 23:29.13 | Hirsute | Shirik: I would. |
| 23:29.16 | Tekkub | "You're welcome" |
| 23:29.47 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 23:30.49 | Fisker- | 15 everfrost chips :( |
| 23:32.09 | Wobin | Shirik: "Assistance with Final Project. This is correct. You're Welcome." |
| 23:33.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:33.34 | zenzelezz | Shirik: there's no question mark in that mail, thus it's only a statement |
| 23:33.34 | Fisker- | btw java Shirik ? |
| 23:33.36 | Shirik | yes java |
| 23:33.44 | Shirik | zenzelezz: so I don't need to reply? |
| 23:33.49 | zenzelezz | exactly |
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| 23:33.52 | Shirik | Actually, I should point out, it is followed by a bunch of numbers |
| 23:33.57 | Fisker- | how do you need help wich such an assignment? |
| 23:34.04 | zenzelezz | Shirik does java just so he has an excuse to use Eclipse |
| 23:34.04 | Shirik | 1234 -220.0 -25.0 -55.0 |
| 23:34.05 | Shirik | etc. |
| 23:34.14 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I hate eclipse SO MUCH T_T |
| 23:34.56 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:34.59 | Shirik | Generally the first thing I say to my students is along the lines of "Hello, in this class we will be using Eclipse because IT refuses to use anything else. I personally hate eclipse so if you hear me curse at it from time to time, I apologize" |
| 23:35.18 | Shirik | "If you have any questions about Eclipse, don't ask me unless you want to hear 'switch to netbeans'" |
| 23:35.21 | Wobin | I need a good timer bar that can show me when unholy blight is not running |
| 23:36.00 | Tekkub | you should encourage your stupidents to bug the IT people for Eclipse help |
| 23:36.03 | mikma | is that the 50 runic power aoe dot? |
| 23:36.37 | Wobin | I'm running DoTimer |
| 23:36.37 | Shirik | haha Tekkub |
| 23:36.37 | Wobin | mikma: yeah |
| 23:36.38 | Tekkub | no, seriously |
| 23:36.38 | Tekkub | make your point to IT |
| 23:36.38 | Wobin | but that only shows target dots |
| 23:36.38 | mikma | wobin: apparently you are still tanking |
| 23:36.38 | Wobin | mikma: I did UK last night! |
| 23:36.38 | Wobin | (as a 68) |
| 23:36.50 | amro | yeah brits are easymode |
| 23:36.53 | Tekkub | also, I have no idea how I typed stupidents |
| 23:36.56 | amro | oh you mean utgarde? |
| 23:36.59 | Tekkub | I didn't even think about it |
| 23:37.00 | AnduinLothar | MikScrollingBattleText is a little excessive for proc tracking. No one uses somehting simpler? |
| 23:37.03 | Kalroth | What's the ~ for iriels debug addon, please? |
| 23:37.10 | Wobin | amro: Only if you go to Essex |
| 23:37.15 | Wobin | Then it's -too- easy =P |
| 23:37.24 | Wobin | but yes. Utgarde Keep |
| 23:37.25 | mikma | wobin: havent been in any instance with my dk yet, and i am 74.2 |
| 23:37.49 | AnduinLothar | ~devtools |
| 23:37.50 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 23:37.56 | Kalroth | Thank you, AnduinLothar |
| 23:38.05 | Hirsute | lua> i=nil; i=tonumber(i); print i; |
| 23:38.05 | lua_bot | Hirsute: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'i' |
| 23:38.09 | Wobin | mikma: It's fairly straightforward |
| 23:38.19 | Wobin | I just had to read up a bit on the final boss |
| 23:38.37 | mikma | wobin: oh dont get me wrong, i leveled my druid first =) |
| 23:38.52 | Wobin | mikma: I meant for tanking =) |
| 23:38.59 | Wobin | on a DK |
| 23:39.00 | mikma | ah |
| 23:39.35 | mikma | i still lack the info about dk tanking, what stats, what skills, etc =/ |
| 23:39.42 | Wobin | str/sta |
| 23:39.48 | mikma | have only been interested of leveling |
| 23:39.52 | Wobin | parry/dodge |
| 23:40.03 | Wobin | and defense |
| 23:40.12 | Wobin | pretty standard |
| 23:40.22 | NightHawkTheSane | "A Void Dance" done :D |
| 23:40.23 | Wobin | we just don't have block, is all |
| 23:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! |
| 23:40.50 | Wobin | then it's just a matter of laying down the AOE as quickly as possible for multimob pulls |
| 23:42.39 | mikma | death and decay, diseases on one mob, spread to others, assplode them, unholy blight, repeat? |
| 23:43.10 | Wobin | if you're pulling with D&D yep |
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| 23:44.03 | mikma | was thinking about running in and then using d&d to keep the mobs on you for a while until you get the diseased around |
| 23:44.29 | Wobin | You can always use D&D to start the pull, by casting it in front of you |
| 23:44.36 | Wobin | then run into the area of effect |
| 23:44.54 | Wobin | spin around, and then you have all the mobs facing you, and facing away from the party |
| 23:45.14 | Wobin | PS, IT, Pestilence |
| 23:45.39 | Wobin | then you'll have to wait for runes before you can bloodboil (or bloodtap for it) |
| 23:45.54 | Wobin | and you should have 60 RP for the unholy blight at that point |
| 23:46.20 | mikma | i have two talents that i always forget. |
| 23:46.26 | Thrae | Nerd Crowd Control using D&D |
| 23:46.29 | Wobin | Thrae: That'd certainly get aggro =) |
| 23:46.36 | mikma | cargoyle, and unholy blight |
| 23:46.46 | Wobin | Garg is good for single target |
| 23:46.56 | Wobin | blight is good for -everything- |
| 23:47.10 | mikma | with elitemobs i try to use all skills possible |
| 23:47.10 | Wobin | It's an extra 21dps per mob |
| 23:47.28 | Wobin | Garg you have to work harder to keep up though, and don't drain your RP to zero |
| 23:47.34 | mikma | but in normal fights my runic power is wasted in death coils |
| 23:47.51 | Wobin | You should use runestrike =) |
| 23:48.02 | Pizik | Anyone had issues healing DKs when they tank? or do I just get DKs with lousy gear? |
| 23:48.12 | Wobin | Pizik: oh god do we have lousy gear =( |
| 23:48.19 | foxlit | Pizik: as a DK with lousy gear, I believe all issues lie with the healers :) |
| 23:48.25 | mikma | wobin: yeah i am using but it doesnt proc that often |
| 23:48.26 | Pizik | lol |
| 23:48.28 | Wobin | we need more tanking gear |
| 23:48.43 | Pizik | Doesn't warrior gear do the trick? |
| 23:48.44 | Wobin | but wotlk seems tailored more towards dps =) |
| 23:48.47 | mikma | wobin: attack to undercity, got a 30k runestrike |
| 23:48.52 | foxlit | If you want a more serious discussion, you'd have to spill what level we're talking about :) |
| 23:49.05 | Wobin | mikma: You need to up your dodge/parry then =) |
| 23:49.08 | foxlit | mikma: you get doges or parries? |
| 23:49.16 | mikma | lets see |
| 23:49.26 | Wobin | I love watching MSBT spam up with chains of "RUNE STRIKE!" |
| 23:49.28 | foxlit | The description is annoying |
| 23:49.35 | Wobin | cause I know I'm not getting hit =) |
| 23:49.43 | foxlit | "After an attack is dodged or parried" |
| 23:49.45 | Pizik | Ive only healed DKs at low 70s, 69 - 73, but id take a warrior any day oer a DK currently |
| 23:49.50 | foxlit | Whose attack? Mine? Someone else's? |
| 23:50.09 | foxlit | Pizik: silly level range, it's a gear thing |
| 23:50.18 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 23:50.29 | foxlit | There are virtually no tanking quest rewards, the best case scenario is that you get a DK in +sta gear just soaking up crits. |
| 23:50.40 | Pizik | kk, so the warrior gear isnt sufficient? wasted block ratings I assume |
| 23:50.47 | foxlit | There is no warrior gear. |
| 23:50.48 | Wobin | I -do- like the UK weapon collection quest reward though |
| 23:51.06 | foxlit | There's virtually nowhere you can get tanking stats from while levelling 55-75 |
| 23:51.21 | Pizik | There is the Cobalt crafted set which is pretty decent for that level range (for warriors) |
| 23:51.25 | mikma | bah, for me eu.wowarmory.com is not respondi g |
| 23:51.26 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44402 |
| 23:51.34 | foxlit | Yes, but |
| 23:51.41 | foxlit | Your average death knight has no tradeskills :) |
| 23:51.48 | Pizik | mikma: It has been like that for a few hours for me |
| 23:52.29 | Wobin | foxlit: I have mining and herb! |
| 23:52.41 | foxlit | Wobin: I have mining (25) and blacksmithing (1)! |
| 23:53.07 | foxlit | Wait, why did I just kill a squirrel in Dalaran? |
| 23:53.16 | foxlit | I should've spam-clicked it until it death-nuked itself |
| 23:53.57 | foxlit | (does anyone else see that graphical effect, I wonder?) |
| 23:54.38 | Pizik | I should probably level my DK before they get nerfed |
| 23:55.48 | mikma | you mean pre-release? |
| 23:57.56 | Tem | Pizik, DKs aren't going to get nerfed |
| 23:58.27 | foxlit | Does the Glyph of Strangulate actually make sense to anyone? |
| 23:58.29 | Pizik | You sure? they seem OP in PVP atm |
| 23:58.43 | foxlit | PvP gear will fix that, it's not that big of an issue. |
| 23:58.58 | foxlit | There's also a l2p component, people haven't killed death knights before. |
| 23:59.13 | Pizik | Maybe I just suck, but I got leathered by a level 70 DK on my 75 hunter :oS |
| 23:59.18 | mikma | hero class... |
| 23:59.27 | foxlit | Which says nothing :) |
| 23:59.34 | foxlit | It increases the range (by 20yds) of the already long-range (30yd) 2-minute cooldown spell |
| 23:59.42 | Pizik | People keep saying "it's a hero class" but that doesnt excuse lack of balance |
| 23:59.43 | mikma | well. dk can get hunter close |
| 23:59.55 | foxlit | Part of me thinks they wanted to increase range on mind freeze rather than strangulate. |
