| 00:00.10 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: ugh, don't even talk to me about those damn bags :P but you'll probably get the toothpick SOMETIME this week at least |
| 00:00.19 | Dewin | seen maybe 4 squashlings, won one of those on my first day |
| 00:00.26 | Shirik | rawr |
| 00:00.29 | cadey | And kd3 - as soon as you said that, I finally got one of those toothpicks |
| 00:01.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Dewin: worst thing was, it was only me and one other person rolling on the squashling. :( |
| 00:01.22 | Dewin | Night: That was the case with mine too. Two dropped that run :) |
| 00:01.32 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 00:01.46 | Dewin | given my current luck, I'll roll a 99 on the next helm I see and lose. |
| 00:03.45 | cadey | That's actually how I won one of the last bear mounts - myself and someone else rolled a 99 - I won :) |
| 00:03.52 | ScytheBlade1 | !!!!!!!! |
| 00:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | GATE OPENS AS A ZOMBIE |
| 00:04.03 | kd3 | o_O |
| 00:04.06 | kd3 | how far in do you get? |
| 00:04.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ... oh |
| 00:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Invisible wall is still there |
| 00:04.20 | kd3 | kuso |
| 00:04.26 | Lunessa | QQ I want the helm and the squashling for the achievement... |
| 00:04.47 | Xuerian | Does logging out mid-flight no longer drop you at the next flight point? |
| 00:04.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It still does |
| 00:05.04 | kd3 | it's supposed to. pretty sure I dropped mid-flight since patch |
| 00:05.13 | Xuerian | Must've picked a reaaaaly long flight path by accident, then -_- |
| 00:05.40 | kd3 | if->epl? |
| 00:05.52 | Xuerian | UC->SoS |
| 00:06.03 | kd3 | ouch |
| 00:06.07 | Xuerian | Good idea, though, I do need to go to epl :P |
| 00:06.28 | cadey | booty bay -> Ghostlands |
| 00:06.54 | ajmitch | long enough to turn you into a zombie mid-flight |
| 00:07.14 | bleeter | darn->silithus |
| 00:07.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a full size invisible wall too |
| 00:07.55 | bleeter | the 'excuse' that it's BC vs Classic worlds doesn't wash since the IQD FPs |
| 00:08.17 | kd3 | heh, oops |
| 00:08.23 | kd3 | we're in hyjal. still have my fishing pole on |
| 00:08.23 | Shirik | Cidan: Conspiracy: Error: uid is not valid for Grid: AddUnitUID |
| 00:08.29 | bleeter | kd3: lol |
| 00:08.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Drakhaon (n=bah@host-90-235-148-135.mobileonline.telia.com) |
| 00:08.45 | Shirik | during command 'Init' |
| 00:11.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Mildly NSFW: http://www.thelocal.se/15138.html |
| 00:13.23 | [Liquidor] | You can send addon messages through whispers aight?= |
| 00:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ... haha. I managed to fall down the UC elevator, and had the presence of mind to bubble so i wouldn't die. just so happened to give me the "Going Down?" achievmement as well :D |
| 00:13.56 | alestane | I believe add-ons can send messages to your guild, raid, party or a specific player, yes. |
| 00:14.34 | cadey | Nice NightHawk :) |
| 00:14.51 | [Liquidor] | Thanks alestane |
| 00:14.54 | cadey | That, I think is the main benefit to being a pally - bubbles! |
| 00:15.01 | mikma | zombies need more INSTAGIBSKILLS |
| 00:15.04 | [Liquidor] | What's the function called? So I can read more about it |
| 00:15.19 | cadey | I just now got infected |
| 00:15.39 | mikma | "Got infected, flew to EPL. All scourge there are freindly. Couldn't find anything to kill to keep me alive. Wonder if you could get all the way through Strat dead side... or maybe other scourge boss type folks..." |
| 00:16.03 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: >.> don't you NOT die in EPL? |
| 00:18.05 | mikma | now my text, was a 1:1 paste |
| 00:18.23 | mikma | yea, zombies need to feed |
| 00:18.25 | mikma | or they will die |
| 00:18.31 | Cidan | Shirik: what |
| 00:18.36 | Cidan | Shirik: What addon? |
| 00:18.36 | Shirik | ^ |
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| 00:19.04 | Shirik | I took a screenshot of the traceback |
| 00:19.11 | Shirik | it was while zoning in to AV |
| 00:19.23 | Cidan | Well |
| 00:20.00 | Cidan | I'm trying to figure something out, it's like... when unit signal updates from blizzard come in for raid changed, party changed, it's like... the data isn't always there |
| 00:20.04 | mikma | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/11675537865-deathchargers-reigns.html |
| 00:20.08 | Cidan | I had the same issue with RDX |
| 00:20.21 | Cidan | So I'm going to delay the follow up signal to addons by about .5 |
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| 00:21.58 | Shirik | Cidan: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a4c95e08c36cb3264b574870862d0bb6.jpg |
| 00:22.17 | Cidan | yeah |
| 00:22.19 | Cidan | like I said |
| 00:22.39 | Cidan | for some reason, WoW seems to fire the signal update before the unit data becomes available |
| 00:22.59 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: 1% chance these days? wow, thats not bad at all |
| 00:23.32 | mikma | ya, been running there 4 times now, gonna solo it |
| 00:23.45 | cadey | owwie - the shatt guards hit hard :( |
| 00:23.47 | Cidan | Also, my entire guild -hates- me right now |
| 00:24.04 | Cidan | I seem to be the only sane person on my server who actually fights the plague. |
| 00:24.16 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: yeah, im half tempted to do so as well. >.> not sure how well my pally could, he's not really geared that great. |
| 00:24.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Cidan: braaaaaainnnnssss |
| 00:24.31 | Shirik | :( Cidan |
| 00:24.36 | Cidan | Holy spec Paladin + Undead plague == rofl, dead zombies. |
| 00:25.31 | cadey | Yeah Cidan, I tend to cure disease on random people in IF |
| 00:25.39 | Cidan | Random? |
| 00:25.40 | Cidan | No sir |
| 00:25.43 | Cidan | You misunderstood. |
| 00:25.46 | Cidan | I hunt people down. |
| 00:25.52 | cadey | ahhh |
| 00:26.34 | kamdis | ScytheBlade1 lol |
| 00:26.42 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: you know you liked it |
| 00:27.10 | kamdis | i replied |
| 00:28.05 | mikma | pfff |
| 00:28.17 | mikma | cidan is the kind that ruins grezt events |
| 00:28.29 | mikma | like the kid who pees in sandbox |
| 00:29.01 | Lunessa | maintenance? now? |
| 00:29.04 | Xuerian | kd3: Confirmed, the crypt can't be entered, though the door can be opened |
| 00:29.05 | kamdis | boom! forum maintenence. |
| 00:29.21 | kamdis | s/maintenence/maintenance |
| 00:29.28 | kd3 | cry |
| 00:29.31 | Cidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.32 | ScytheBlade1 | What? NO |
| 00:29.32 | bleeter | omg /2 'hey the drop rate for the baron's mount has been reduced' produced a 'which baron' tell to me :( |
| 00:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I JUST POSTED |
| 00:29.35 | Cidan | slash at the end |
| 00:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | "Loading..." |
| 00:30.11 | kamdis | bleeter wtf which baron? |
| 00:30.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I clicked post and tabbed over to see you guys saying we had forum maint |
| 00:30.18 | kamdis | who the heck do they think you mean? |
| 00:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Still loading... :( |
| 00:30.25 | bleeter | kamdis: yar, I weep for humanity, I truly do |
| 00:30.28 | selckin | bleeter: increased |
| 00:30.40 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/wtfno.jpg |
| 00:30.42 | bleeter | increased/decresed.. yeah, I knew what I meant |
| 00:30.57 | bleeter | that wasn't a literal copy of my post in trade, I specifid the 1/5000 to 1/100 |
| 00:31.01 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: everyone knows baron geddon drops a mount *nod* |
| 00:31.04 | kamdis | the denominator was reduced. does that count? |
| 00:31.10 | selckin | no |
| 00:31.16 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: yes yes |
| 00:31.19 | kamdis | heh |
| 00:31.23 | kamdis | well, i tried bleeter. |
| 00:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: now I can't see your reply :( |
| 00:31.45 | kamdis | I can't even get antyhing to load. |
| 00:31.56 | kamdis | I think blizzard si trying to tell me to go home and log on. |
| 00:32.03 | mikma | so we noticed you can skip the undeads before baron |
| 00:32.12 | mikma | the huge amount of zombies and skeletons |
| 00:32.45 | mikma | after you kill the big undeads, the big undead boss comes |
| 00:33.22 | mikma | you need to run inside the baron's place with him, kill him in the stairs and kill the five undeads that spawn |
| 00:33.35 | mikma | then the inner door opens for baron =D |
| 00:34.05 | mikma | speeds up the run because you dont have to wait for the doors to open and the 5 skeletons to walk to you |
| 00:38.14 | Xuerian | Anyone found npcs with conversations for undead? |
| 00:38.21 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 00:38.33 | ScytheBlade1 | The Kara gate opens as a Zombie, but, the invisible wall is still there |
| 00:38.51 | Xuerian | Yeah, just checked there |
| 00:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | You people rock my world, you know that? |
| 00:39.01 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 00:39.05 | Xuerian | Lay off the sauce, lope |
| 00:39.07 | bleeter | I was thinking, if anywhere, we'd see some NPC zombie interaction in that new EPL subzone |
| 00:39.10 | mikma | is niiiiiiiice |
| 00:39.12 | bleeter | ain't been out to check it though |
| 00:39.21 | Lopeppeppy | Xuerian, I haven't even opened the beer yet! |
| 00:39.49 | Xuerian | Lopeppeppy: Heh |
| 00:39.56 | Xuerian | bleeter: Yeah, flyin there right now... |
| 00:40.28 | mikma | bleeter: nope |
| 00:40.33 | bleeter | Xuerian: I was thinking one might have to be a zombie to see anything, though. |
| 00:40.35 | mikma | mmo has info about that |
| 00:40.39 | bleeter | and that could be a lot of territory to cover |
| 00:40.42 | Xuerian | mikma: Whar |
| 00:40.42 | mikma | mmo-champion |
| 00:40.48 | mikma | xuerian: page 2 |
| 00:40.54 | mikma | the same post |
| 00:41.44 | |Jelly| | Peppy killed the forums. |
| 00:41.55 | Xuerian | Hmm, wonder about araj |
| 00:42.22 | Xuerian | Anyone remember other boss-like scourge npcs around? >_> |
| 00:42.28 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 00:42.33 | Shirik | How long has he been running like that |
| 00:42.37 | Shirik | !quit gtfo my terminal |
| 00:42.46 | bleeter | lol world zombie day is the 28th =)) |
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| 00:43.07 | bleeter | Xuerian: that guy in andorhal |
| 00:43.14 | mikma | peebotg *giggle* |
| 00:43.24 | mikma | -g |
| 00:43.27 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/10/23/funny-pictures-thats-weird-this-doesnt-look-like-the-future/ |
| 00:44.13 | bleeter | man, still no zombie forum avatars :( |
| 00:44.18 | Xuerian | bleeter: yeah, that's araj |
| 00:45.20 | bleeter | Xuerian: ah, apologies. didn't see the first post :) |
| 00:45.29 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: PING |
| 00:45.35 | bleeter | Xuerian: I wonder what Chromie would say/do to you |
| 00:45.52 | Xuerian | bleeter: Will check that |
| 00:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | nice, almost all the bank in org is infected :) |
| 00:46.06 | Lopeppeppy | Oh gods! bleeter, you just hit one of Peppy's HUGE pet peeves. |
| 00:46.11 | Lopeppeppy | CHROMIE IS NOT A GNOME!!!! |
| 00:46.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ... she isn't? |
| 00:46.37 | NeoTron | she's a dragon |
| 00:46.43 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: I didn't say she/he/it was ;) |
| 00:46.47 | Xuerian | Who the hell said she was a gnome? |
| 00:46.57 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Pong |
| 00:46.58 | bleeter | ain't read enough lore to know what gender it/she/he really is |
| 00:47.08 | Lopeppeppy | Chromie appears to be a gnomish female. |
| 00:47.14 | NeoTron | Bronze Dragon to be exact |
| 00:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | She's totally a dragon-thing, planning to eat everyone! |
| 00:47.18 | NightHawkTheSane | you dont really need to know that much lore. just have done a few quests |
| 00:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.31 | NeoTron | and she pretty much doesn't know when she is or when she last saw you |
| 00:47.34 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Wassup? |
| 00:47.34 | kd3 | I like the phrase we have for "her" on the wiki |
| 00:47.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: hey, she IS a dragon, but she seems an exceptionally nice one! |
| 00:47.38 | kd3 | "gnomish guise" |
| 00:47.43 | |Jelly| | Rayne: SS;DD |
| 00:47.51 | bleeter | yes, but if he/she/it is a dragon appearing as a gnome, might it not be possible he/she/it is disguising her/his/it's gender too |
| 00:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | No. Not nice. No dragons are nice. All dragons are bad, it's axiomatic. |
| 00:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.11 | Xuerian | bleeter: Araj isn't there... >_> |
| 00:48.19 | bleeter | oO |
| 00:48.23 | NeoTron | Lopeppeppy: bet you'll love doing the black dragonflight quests in LK then :P |
| 00:48.25 | Lunessa | The Status is NOT Quo. |
| 00:48.27 | bleeter | phylactaryary thing on the ground? |
| 00:48.31 | Xuerian | nope |
| 00:48.34 | bleeter | hmm |
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| 00:48.46 | bleeter | would be fun to see him and minions do some world ass kicking |
| 00:48.57 | bleeter | he used to be cool, pre-BC, great fun++ |
| 00:49.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: he may have been killed and not respawned? |
| 00:49.50 | bleeter | lol, shat's FP has been infected.. there's now like.. 20/30+ FP defenders spawned going after lots of turned city defenders |
| 00:49.57 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Maybe, I'll try to find something to kill and go back |
| 00:50.04 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: I hear that |
| 00:50.04 | Xuerian | This stupid degen is annoying |
| 00:50.33 | NightHawkTheSane | beat up some AD at the bulwark? or scarlet crusade just north of andorhal |
| 00:50.37 | bleeter | NightHawkTheSane: don't quote me, but I thought he always dropped his gear whenever he was killed (ie, no quest required). i do recall something 'odd' about the drop/loot, whether that was it I dunno |
| 00:50.39 | NightHawkTheSane | andorhol? hmm |
| 00:50.45 | Xuerian | Too far to run while not bugged, killing wolves |
| 00:51.14 | NightHawkTheSane | bleeter: he DOES drop an object that has his quest items in it, that can be looted by anyone. however that, like all things, has a despawn timer on it |
| 00:51.40 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know what his respawn time is, but it may be between the despawn of that object and his respawn |
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| 00:52.07 | Xuerian | I think the bugging has to do with trinkets with stam on them.. and I don't have any |
| 00:52.44 | Xuerian | Yeah, araj was between spawns |
| 00:52.48 | Xuerian | But nothing =| |
| 00:54.50 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* there's a LOT of people killing araj these days, presumably for the scholo key |
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| 00:56.31 | |Jelly| | Rayne: Get your UI issues resolved? |
| 00:57.20 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 00:57.21 | purl | No, really, STOP! |
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| 00:59.37 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: I can't think of any other scourge npcs for the life of me |
| 00:59.44 | Xuerian | Outside of instances anyway |
| 01:01.35 | Xuerian | http://www.wowwiki.com/Scourge#Command_Structure could be there |
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| 01:03.04 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 01:03.54 | bleeter | BBRRRAAAAIINNNZZZZZ |
| 01:04.09 | Lopeppeppy | I was trying to scare Gryphon, but it didn't work. Rawr. |
| 01:04.30 | bleeter | bah, stupid nick stealer |
| 01:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 01:05.44 | bleeter | so... erm.. anyone know of any decent alliance PvE guild who'll take my 4 70's? I'm eager to leave a realm where I've caught 'my guild' out exploiting their way to BT |
| 01:06.10 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ kamdis calling Zoot "Mr. Fizzle" |
| 01:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome |
| 01:07.21 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, I'm sorry bleeter. |
| 01:07.48 | Zootfizzle | Hey ScytheBlade |
| 01:07.49 | Shirik | no she's not |
| 01:07.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 01:08.09 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: the worst bit was, i never knew they were doing such crap until I was playing my 'no name' toon (ie, they didn't know it was me) trying to down Shade of Aran in Kara... after the boss nerf :/ |
| 01:08.16 | Zootfizzle | No idea what's gonna end up happening with the chat stuff, but what I'm going to look into is past behaviors :P |
| 01:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I can say with a 99% certainty that it has always done that |
| 01:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | (But if you take away that option, I'll be after you :P) |
| 01:08.48 | bleeter | I was like 'wtf why even need to exploit it it's total EZ moad now' 'meh, less repair bill' .... <oh look, my network connection has totally dropped> |
| 01:08.50 | Zootfizzle | Well, that's me. |
| 01:08.57 | Zootfizzle | Stealing functionality out of children's mouths left and right ;) |
| 01:09.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 01:09.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I took it at face value, but I really do love that, and those Cogrenades are useful against Sprockets, or so I'm told ;) |
| 01:09.32 | Thunder_Child | http://thegreatgeekmanual.com/images/humor/motivational/february/motivational-poster-mac-users-market.jpg |
| 01:09.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Hellooo run-on sentence |
| 01:09.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I feel ashamed of myself now :( |
| 01:10.03 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik! *smack* |
| 01:10.05 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:10.31 | Lopeppeppy | And ScytheBlade1, if you use a grenade against one Sprocket, it's blood feud with us all. |
| 01:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | You can go after the users, or the supplier :P |
| 01:10.51 | Thunder_Child | ~fail sprocket |
| 01:10.52 | purl | sprocket, you Fail! |
| 01:10.57 | Lopeppeppy | That was for saying I wasn't really sorry. Zoot can kick your arse hisownself if he needs. |
| 01:11.33 | bleeter | oO Zootfizzle is really Artie Fufkin?? |
| 01:11.39 | |pez| | Oh, hey, I'm almost at lvl 65 now ^____^ |
| 01:11.42 | Zootfizzle | @_@ |
| 01:11.47 | Lopeppeppy | Whu? |
| 01:11.52 | Zootfizzle | My last name is AWESOME |
| 01:11.53 | Shirik | who's Artie Fufkin? |
| 01:12.09 | bleeter | Shirik: MOAR SPINAL TAP 4 JOO |
| 01:12.14 | Shirik | :< |
| 01:12.18 | Shirik | ~wiki Artie Fufkin |
| 01:12.24 | Shirik | see |
| 01:12.27 | Shirik | obviously he's not important |
| 01:12.31 | ScytheBlade1 | PS |
| 01:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | !g Artie Fufkin |
| 01:12.35 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Artie Fufkin (Character) <http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0008529/> |
| 01:12.36 | bleeter | ~imdb artie fufkin |
| 01:12.50 | bleeter | that works, thanks for the tip ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Google is the real winner here |
| 01:13.36 | Shirik | batbot's link system fails |
| 01:13.49 | bleeter | how? |
| 01:14.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me it's related to Shirik's fail client |
| 01:14.13 | *** kick/#wowuidev [ScytheBlade1!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 01:14.17 | Shirik | Because of the <> |
| 01:14.19 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: am suspecting same |
| 01:14.19 | Shirik | without space |
| 01:14.20 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 01:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Called it |
| 01:14.25 | *** kick/#wowuidev [ScytheBlade1!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 01:14.28 | *** join/#wowuidev ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 01:14.29 | bleeter | yup, it is |
| 01:14.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Called it |
| 01:14.41 | bleeter | been down this path many a time in #pidgin, it's the client's failure to parse correctly |
| 01:15.00 | Shirik | I had to use sed in my DSP class today |
| 01:15.01 | Shirik | omg |
| 01:15.01 | Adys | people use pidgin for irc? o_O |
| 01:15.19 | Industrial | How do I disable the spellcast fail sound again? |
| 01:15.20 | bleeter | Adys: more likely to use irssi or xchat. |
| 01:15.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: no small number of people here do, I've found |
| 01:15.32 | Shirik | My professor was all "Damn, this text file needs to have commas after all of these numbers before we can use it. How are we going to do this?" |
| 01:15.37 | Shirik | And I was like "SED TO THE RESCUE!!!!" |
| 01:15.44 | bleeter | Adys: although in console only mode, finch irc works suitably. having said this, I believe Cairenn still uses Pidgin |
| 01:16.11 | Adys | treachery |
| 01:16.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i think i've totally forgotten how to dps as a kitty |
| 01:16.29 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: bring the claws out and shred the curtains |
| 01:16.59 | Adys | lol |
| 01:19.09 | Dashkal | bleeter: libpurple video support? Yeah, also DNF is coming out next week |
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| 01:20.14 | bleeter | Dashkal: libpurple audio/video = a long and painful story.... DNF? |
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| 01:23.31 | ScytheBlade1 | argh |
| 01:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Why are guild bank tab names so restricted? |
| 01:23.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't have "/" or "&" in the name |
| 01:23.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Nor can I have "crap" as in "Misc. Crap" :P |
| 01:24.30 | ScytheBlade1 | .. I can't even have a period in there :( |
| 01:26.02 | Dashkal | bleeter: Duke Nukem Forever |
| 01:26.12 | bleeter | ohhhh :) |
| 01:26.12 | Adys | oh, it is? |
| 01:26.13 | Adys | cool |
| 01:26.14 | Dashkal | I gave up on libpurple a/v years ago. |
| 01:26.32 | Dashkal | Mind you I pretty much gave up on the pidgin dev process when they were forced to for |
| 01:26.34 | Dashkal | k |
| 01:26.40 | bleeter | fork? |
| 01:26.43 | Dashkal | carrier |
| 01:27.02 | Dashkal | funpidgin.sourceforge.net |
| 01:27.14 | Adys | i remember that, that was childish |
| 01:27.14 | Dashkal | Pidgin gives the impression (perhaps not the intention) of being open source, but closed development |
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| 01:27.37 | Adys | anyone ever compiled vlc here? |
| 01:27.39 | bleeter | IM users are like gamers, though |
| 01:27.49 | Dashkal | Adys: perhaps, but their grevience is valid. The Pidgin devs have a habit of saying "It's this way and fuck you if you don't like it" |
| 01:27.56 | bleeter | do you give gamers every single option they've ever asked for in your addons? |
| 01:28.00 | Adys | Im talking about the pidgin team |
| 01:28.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Dashkal: that's you being pretty nice about it too |
| 01:28.25 | bleeter | Dashkal: see above re: years and years and years of stupid user requests, and imagine if you're a dev working on it for 10 years or more, how you'd end up ;) |
| 01:28.39 | Industrial | bleeter: "baing able to use a webcam with people that use msn messenger" is a reasonable request imo |
| 01:28.39 | bleeter | I don't disagree that they're harsh, but I do see where they're coming from to some degree ;) |
| 01:29.05 | bleeter | Industrial: yes, indeed. one can 'do it with hax' or 'do it right from the start' |
| 01:29.05 | Adys | hold on, you mean they fixed dev.pidgin.com ? |
| 01:29.32 | bleeter | given that gstreamer and foo weren't at all capable until about 2 years ago, at most, of 'doing it right'... ;) |
| 01:29.57 | bleeter | thoguh to be honest, if Google hadn't insisted at the start of the project merge of doing shit in speex instead of via something like gstreamer.... :/ |
| 01:30.08 | Industrial | i just wanna camse..chat. |
| 01:30.19 | Industrial | =) |
| 01:30.30 | Industrial | (I'm just kidding, btw) |
| 01:31.24 | Adys | all Ive seen from the pidgin development is a lot of pretencious shiz going on, and ignoring straight away stuff that should be prioritized |
| 01:31.41 | Industrial | ~bleeter |
| 01:31.42 | purl | Bleeter is the original Freenode nick of bleetah, used on a number of Open Source projects. see ~bleetah. He mainly resides inside irssi(1) inside a screen(1) on some *n[u|i]x/Gnu/OSS system. In WoW, he's Normal. |
| 01:31.58 | Industrial | ~bleetah |
| 01:31.58 | purl | Bleetah is Normal, and is doing something insanely boring on Thorium Brotherhood (US RP-PvE) right now (with a few extra silent letters thrown in to his name for good measure) or similarly exciting stuff on Ravenholdt (US RP-PvP) (as a totally different toon name) |
| 01:32.11 | Industrial | ~Industrial |
| 01:32.12 | purl | methinks industrial is a coder-monkey |
| 01:32.17 | Industrial | o_O |
| 01:32.32 | Industrial | I havent really done a lot of code imho |
| 01:33.03 | bleeter | for the 'horrid history' from my point of view, although prolly tempered a little by time... http://bleeter.livejournal.com/2005/11/11/ |
| 01:35.01 | bleeter | needless to say, we had working Y! and MSN cams to varying degrees, and iirc Y! sound too... stupid bastards. Still, i beleive there's some code in their git now.. strangely enough.. using gstreamer and shizz |
| 01:36.12 | bleeter | on a completely different note... how can we the players get a felsteel lockbox opened? skill level 375 required. Gotta wait for Wrath? |
| 01:37.28 | Adys | yeah they are wotlk lockboxes |
| 01:37.48 | bleeter | damn, no ench or crafted thing to help opening them pre-wrath? |
| 01:37.54 | bleeter | or even an npc? |
| 01:38.01 | Cidan | nope |
| 01:38.04 | Adys | Gaim won't be called gaim anymore, and more people leave the project. |
| 01:38.05 | Cidan | You have to wait. |
| 01:38.10 | Adys | at least you got that part right |
| 01:39.13 | bleeter | I really wished Gaim had tried to sue AOL |
| 01:39.15 | Industrial | Cidan: ! |
| 01:39.18 | bleeter | that woulda been hell funny |
| 01:39.19 | bleeter | *countersue |
| 01:39.28 | Industrial | Cidan: is it me or havent I see you around (here) for a while |
| 01:39.42 | Cidan | Industrial: I've been back for about 3 weeks |
| 01:39.49 | Industrial | lol, ok :P |
| 01:39.50 | Cidan | Finally got to 70 for WotLK |
| 01:39.56 | Industrial | heh |
| 01:40.00 | Industrial | im leveling a huntard now |
| 01:40.06 | bleeter | (Gaim was called Gaim before AOL trademarked AIM, thus making it rather messy for AOL in their claim against Gaim ;) |
| 01:40.18 | Industrial | but i just respecced elemental and I coult match my dps with pallies... so now im not sure anymore :< |
| 01:40.31 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:40.50 | Shirik | the argent healer purges herself, saying "May the light purge your infection, brave Argent Healer" |
| 01:40.55 | Shirik | you can't call yourself brave |
| 01:41.00 | Industrial | haha |
| 01:41.06 | Cidan | She's got an ego, oh well. |
| 01:41.08 | NightHawkTheSane | sure she can! |
| 01:41.13 | bleeter | i dunno... pretty brave to cleanse people who don't wanna be cleansed |
| 01:41.16 | Cidan | no different than anyone else in here, imo |
| 01:41.25 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:41.26 | bleeter | she's just stupid, like most AD npcs |
| 01:41.31 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy isn't egotistical! |
| 01:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. |
| 01:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:41.51 | Cidan | I have a Logitech G13 keyboard |
| 01:42.00 | Cidan | and I have a key set to spam cure |
| 01:42.10 | Adys | i had lots of fun annihilating the argent healers with my army of three hundred ghouls |
| 01:42.12 | Cidan | So when I see someone with the plague, bam, spam. |
| 01:43.00 | Cidan | and when it comes to Zombies, I use my Paladin to AoE stun, and concecrate, fear the player-zombies, and holy shock/wrath anything else |
| 01:43.09 | Gnarfoz | Adys: wtb more ghouls :X for some reason I only hit for 1 dmg (+20 from the spell) as a ghoul, so I get killed really quick by idiot players ;D |
| 01:43.32 | Adys | i hit for like 130-200 |
| 01:43.45 | Cidan | You zombie filth can't touch us Paladin's. |
| 01:43.58 | Adys | I agree |
| 01:44.07 | Adys | *hits* *infects* *bubble* *giggles* |
| 01:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins are immune. :) |
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| 01:45.01 | Industrial | cure disease |
| 01:45.02 | Cidan | I'm holy spec, with 20% crit, I just spam holy shock/wrath, etc |
| 01:45.05 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11296568424&postId=118283283526&sid=1#37 |
| 01:46.18 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: sure. ;) try DS next time you're infected. ;p |
| 01:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yay!!! |
| 01:46.34 | Cidan | never DS while infected, simply cure your self. |
| 01:46.39 | Lopeppeppy | I've not been infected, Gnarfoz. I'm immune, durh. |
| 01:48.24 | Shirik | I need a faraday headwrap, cogwheel |
| 01:48.45 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 01:48.47 | Lopeppeppy | no no no. |
| 01:48.49 | Tekkub | what the hell is with people asking me to fix abandoned addons |
| 01:49.00 | Tekkub | I think I remember a rash of these requests with 2.0 also |
| 01:49.11 | cogwheel | ?? |
| 01:49.12 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:49.16 | Shirik | It's a faraday cage! |
| 01:49.19 | Shirik | In a headwrap! |
| 01:49.24 | cogwheel | 4rl! |
| 01:49.30 | Cidan | Tekkub: If you show an iota of ability or SMRTNESS in this world, you will never rest a day in your life. |
| 01:49.35 | Shirik | Of course, it's somewhat unnecessary for me. I think my school is a faraday cage |
| 01:49.45 | cogwheel | my work is... |
| 01:49.58 | cogwheel | takes about 3 hours to completely kill my cell phone if i leave it on |
| 01:50.37 | cogwheel | anywhere else, even inside buildings it usually lasts days... |
| 01:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | Is it roaming when it's at work, Cogwheel? |
| 01:51.03 | Lopeppeppy | That killed my cell phone the first day in California, until I learned to turn it off at night. |
| 01:51.21 | cogwheel | no, but it does lose digital from time to time, suggesting it's getting two pretty much equally weak signals |
| 01:51.28 | Tekkub | Cidan, Walmart taught me to never ever take on new responsibilities without proper incentive |
| 01:51.44 | Tekkub | "Want to learn to mix paint?" "Want to give me a raise?" |
| 01:51.54 | Tekkub | best part was, I knew how to mix paint |
| 01:52.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:53.19 | Tekkub | the fucking chips GIVE YOU THE RECIPE... you just add the colors it tells you, put the lid on good, toss it in the jiggler |
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| 01:57.53 | cogwheel | gnome female with a gnome female mask looks... odd |
| 01:58.38 | Tekkub | like she has a HUGE HEAD? |
| 01:58.39 | Shirik | jiggler? |
| 01:58.43 | Shirik | Is that the real name? |
| 01:59.00 | Xuerian | Shirik: I was wondering that too... |
| 01:59.21 | Tekkub | hell if I know, they didn't want to give me a raise |
| 01:59.30 | Lopeppeppy | "mixer" I bet. |
| 01:59.58 | Shirik | you know what |
| 02:00.00 | Shirik | screw Visual Studio 2008 |
| 02:00.13 | Shirik | It's all like "No, CSocket is a reserved class name" |
| 02:00.21 | Shirik | I don't give a damn if you have a CSocket, I want to use it and I'm not using your libraries |
| 02:00.23 | Tekkub | took me about 5 min to come to that conclution :) |
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| 02:03.04 | bleeter | yup, only bit of EPIC FAIL wrt the zombie invasion... zombies can't /dance |
| 02:04.15 | bleeter | oh |
| 02:04.19 | bleeter | and lack of zombie forum avatars |
| 02:04.53 | ScytheBlade1 | So, setting up a ventrilo server |
| 02:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I made PvP 1-5 |
| 02:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | And then just to mess with people |
| 02:05.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Deleted 4, made 6, and changed the phonetic on 5-6 to 4-5 |
| 02:06.27 | Shirik | You know, I could totally see a Deathklok song made from "Sinister Squashling" |
| 02:06.33 | Gnarfoz | lol |
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| 02:07.14 | Tekkub | <OnMouseWheel> |
| 02:07.14 | Tekkub | return; |
| 02:07.14 | Tekkub | </OnMouseWheel> |
| 02:07.21 | Shirik | awesome. |
| 02:07.22 | Tekkub | MailFrame wins! |
| 02:07.48 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: what's it with all those supposedly long-term wow players not knowing how the chat windows behave in the default ui in that thread? :D |
| 02:09.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ... it just clicked |
| 02:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd almost bet that all of those people were cosmos users |
| 02:09.24 | |Jelly| | Why do people cast PoM on a pally tank? No one else takes damage. :-\ |
| 02:10.01 | Gnarfoz | boredom? no one else takes damage, you know |
| 02:10.02 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 02:10.20 | |Jelly| | epic waste of mana |
| 02:10.24 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: btw, I'm working on a new program. I want it to work with IPv6 |
| 02:10.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: k |
| 02:10.29 | Shirik | Think in the near future you'll have a chance to test it? |
| 02:10.46 | Shirik | Maybe not near future |
| 02:10.48 | Shirik | but sometime in the future |
| 02:10.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Written in what? |
| 02:10.51 | Shirik | C++ |
| 02:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | That'll be fun =] |
| 02:11.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Windows or otherwise? |
| 02:11.14 | Shirik | platform independent (in theory) |
| 02:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | The only thing I don't have here is OSX |
| 02:11.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And everything that I do have is fully IPv6 enabled |
| 02:18.04 | |Jelly| | Peppy: http://i37.tinypic.com/24erp5v.jpg Something's wrong with the retadin in my group. |
| 02:19.05 | Lopeppeppy | You outdamaged him? |
| 02:19.34 | |Jelly| | By .. a lot. |
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| 02:19.48 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. Is he just ret now to level, or is he career ret |
| 02:19.58 | |Jelly| | He's got Kara ret gear. /shrug |
| 02:20.01 | |Jelly| | I didn't interview him. |
| 02:20.11 | Lopeppeppy | I have Kara ret gear, jelly-dear |
| 02:20.17 | bleeter | I KICK ARSE FOR THE LORD!! |
| 02:20.25 | |Jelly| | Can you out damage the tank? |
| 02:20.30 | bleeter | whoops, total mt |
| 02:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know, I've never been allowed to spec ret. |
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| 02:21.05 | |Jelly| | "allowed" That word always confused me in regards to a game you pay to play |
| 02:21.19 | Lopeppeppy | I bet I couldn't outdamage the tank my first time out as Ret, for sure. |
| 02:21.29 | Shirik | ~raii |
| 02:21.30 | Lopeppeppy | Allow is more to do with the officer position I held. |
| 02:21.58 | Mike-N-Go | Nature's Guardian heals me when my zombie loses hp. |
| 02:22.01 | Lopeppeppy | P.S. I have a pink and purple spiderweb hanging in my window now. I hope the spider eats a few kids. |
| 02:24.43 | Shirik | purl, raii is "Resource Acquisition Is Initialization," a popular C++ design philosophy ensuring resource allocations are related to object creation, ensuring their deletion when destroyed. RAII is an important concept for writing exception-safe code. |
| 02:24.43 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 02:25.08 | Shirik | pink and purple? |
| 02:26.34 | Lopeppeppy | Damn skippy straight, Shirik. |
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| 02:27.01 | Lopeppeppy | Either the spider the size of a teacup will scare them away, or the pastels will. Rawr. |
| 02:28.40 | Arrowmaster | so taint related question im wondering if anybody knows before i attempt to discover it on my own, if i even can easily |
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| 02:29.44 | Arrowmaster | if you have a slider created by the default ui and thus secure, if you call :SetValue() on that slider, when it fires its OnValueChanged script handler, is that still secure? |
| 02:29.50 | duaiwe | Any (feral) druids around? |
| 02:30.18 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: rawr |
| 02:31.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: i've got ~120 badges right now, and the kara staff and somewhere between t4/t5 gear. Should I go for the 150 badge staff, or pick up some other piece of gear? :) |
| 02:31.17 | Shirik | kinda, NightHawkTheSane |
| 02:31.32 | Shirik | the 150 badge staff is kinda nice if you're going for dps |
| 02:31.35 | Xuerian | ^ |
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| 02:31.39 | Xuerian | Otherwise other gear |
| 02:31.44 | NightHawkTheSane | thats mostly my concern, ie - going into wotlk |
| 02:32.00 | Lonny | Is there anyway I can hook 'GetCursorInfo' ? I'm trying to use 'hooksecurefunc' to prevent taining issues, but I'm getting stack overflow, might be to the fact it's returning a value and I'm trying to post hook it ? |
| 02:32.00 | Shirik | You'll likely replace a lot of your gear anyway |
| 02:32.07 | Xuerian | Well, the staff should last a while |
| 02:32.08 | Shirik | the dps staff might be useful to help level faster |
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| 02:32.16 | Xuerian | Harder to replace the higher ilvl it is |
| 02:32.21 | Xuerian | Since we're not getting any major itemization changes |
| 02:32.30 | Shirik | Lonny: You're probably doing it wrong (tm) |
| 02:32.49 | Shirik | Xuerian: I don't expect t4/t5 to last incredibly long |
| 02:32.57 | Lonny | Possibly haha :) |
| 02:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 02:33.17 | Shirik | "Might be due to the fact that it's returning a value and I'm trying to post hook it?" <-- no. |
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| 02:33.41 | Thrae | Lonny: I don't think GetCursorInfo is a secure function. You should be able to hook it normally, and make sure you do function hooked_function(...) return orig_function(...) end |
| 02:33.50 | Xuerian | Shirik: I don't expect any of it to last terribly long, but since badges are going to be all but useless, he mayaswell |
| 02:33.53 | Cidan | people are reporting me in game |
| 02:33.58 | Cidan | for killing zombies |
| 02:34.00 | Cidan | and curing the plague |
| 02:34.04 | Cidan | saying I will get banned. |
| 02:34.04 | Shirik | Cidan: I don't think they'll do anything |
| 02:34.07 | Cidan | This is amusing. |
| 02:34.10 | Cidan | I know they won't. |
| 02:34.11 | Shirik | That's pretty awesome yes |
| 02:34.30 | Thrae | Why should you get banned for curing the plague? |
| 02:34.43 | Shirik | Because they're idiots |
| 02:34.53 | Lonny | Thrae, I tried to hook it normally, but I'm get tainting issues :P |
| 02:35.48 | Shirik | Lonny: I would advise you trying to show some code |
| 02:36.01 | Lonny | Sure |
| 02:36.16 | Shirik | Thrae: The fact that GetCursorInfo returns values means that somewhere down the line secure code might get tainted depending on its use :) |
| 02:36.25 | Shirik | GetCursorInfo itself might not need it, but something else might :) |
| 02:36.43 | Shirik | Personally I don't know the implications myself, I haven't tested it |
| 02:36.49 | Shirik | but it's theoretically possible |
| 02:37.23 | Lonny | There http://wowi.pastey.net/99396 |
| 02:38.10 | Shirik | Lonny |
| 02:38.16 | Lonny | Well if I'll hook it normally, enough to click on the player portrait and it gets tainted :P |
| 02:38.18 | Lonny | Yeah ? |
| 02:38.23 | Shirik | your function calls GetCursorInfo |
| 02:38.46 | Shirik | and GetCursorInfo calls your function |
| 02:38.49 | Shirik | that's infinite recursion |
| 02:39.21 | Lonny | You mean function() addon:CursorHasItem() end ? |
| 02:39.28 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:39.31 | Lonny | Since it's not the same function :P |
| 02:39.32 | Shirik | so it will go to CursorHasItem() |
| 02:39.41 | Shirik | which will then go to the first line of your code |
| 02:39.47 | Shirik | which is local infoType, info1 = GetCursorInfo() |
| 02:39.50 | Shirik | which will then go to your hook |
| 02:39.52 | Lonny | ahh |
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| 02:39.56 | Shirik | hooksecurefunc("GetCursorInfo", function() addon:CursorHasItem() end) |
| 02:40.01 | Shirik | which will then go to the first line of your code |
| 02:40.02 | Shirik | etc. |
| 02:40.24 | Lonny | yeah I understand thanks :P |
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| 02:44.59 | Lonny | Same results http://wowi.pastey.net/99397; I'm not quite sure but I think that 'GetCursorInfo' calls 'GetCursorInfo' and the recursion don't have any base to stop since I'm not returning anything ? |
| 02:45.03 | Yssaril | cladhaire: why my waypoints didn't get put on the map right? |
| 02:45.23 | Shirik | yes, GetCursorInfo calling GetCursorInfo is bad |
| 02:45.28 | Shirik | because it will happen forever |
| 02:45.33 | Shirik | that is exactly what that "stack overflow" error means |
| 02:45.49 | Shirik | Every time you call a function, you push several things onto the stack. If you do that forever, eventually it will overflow |
| 02:45.50 | Lonny | Yup :P |
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| 02:45.55 | Lonny | Just checked it haha :D |
| 02:45.56 | Shirik | You need to not do that :) |
| 02:46.06 | Lonny | Yeah ^^ |
| 02:46.20 | alestane | Lonny: http://wowi.pastey.net/99398 try it like that. |
| 02:46.47 | Shirik | actually |
| 02:47.05 | Shirik | eh, nm |
| 02:47.09 | Shirik | I guess that's the best solution |
| 02:47.36 | bleeter | Wobin: you know what they say.. NOBODY DESERVES TO... BRAAIANNNNZZZZ |
| 02:48.02 | Lonny | yeah it's working ^^ thank you ! :) |
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| 02:49.54 | alestane | Now here's the real quesiotn, Lonny...do you get WHY it's working now? |
| 02:50.50 | Lonny | Well, kinda, not really, I know it's something that has to do with the scope or ? |
| 02:51.16 | alestane | Shirik: Think you can explain this one? |
| 02:51.36 | Shirik | hmm |
| 02:51.45 | Shirik | ok Lonny, do you at least know why what you were doing was wrong? |
| 02:52.04 | Lonny | Yeah I do |
| 02:52.22 | Shirik | care to (22:39:18) - Join: ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 02:52.24 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 02:52.27 | Shirik | ... anyway |
| 02:52.30 | Shirik | care to explain? |
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| 02:52.43 | ckknight | what am I explaining? |
| 02:52.48 | Shirik | no >< That was an accident |
| 02:52.54 | Shirik | I don't know how that even got there |
| 02:52.59 | ckknight | ...gnomes? |
| 02:53.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I do |
| 02:53.05 | ScytheBlade1 | You copied it |
| 02:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And then hit paste mid-sentence |
| 02:53.13 | Shirik | I don't remember doing that :/ |
| 02:53.17 | Shirik | I don't even know why I'd copy that >.> |
| 02:53.25 | Shirik | Lonny, ok, so you know that you were doing infinite recursion |
| 02:53.46 | Shirik | hooksecurefunc modifies the function GetCursorInfo, right? |
| 02:54.21 | Lonny | yup |
| 02:54.23 | alestane | Actually it replaces the function stored in the global variable _G.GetCursorInfo with another function that calls the old one. |
| 02:54.38 | Shirik | eh, yeah, technically speaking alestane is right |
| 02:54.51 | alestane | That's why this works. |
| 02:54.54 | Shirik | Anyway, so the first thing you do in alestane's corrected code is to make a reference to that function, right? |
| 02:55.01 | Lonny | yeah |
| 02:55.15 | Shirik | AFTER you make that reference, you modify _G.GetCursorInfo to a new function (which happens to be the hooked function) |
| 02:55.36 | Shirik | your local copy of GetCursorInfo, however, still references the old, unhooked function |
| 02:55.36 | Lonny | ahhh |
| 02:55.55 | Shirik | before you made that local reference, you were still calling the global GetCursorInfo |
| 02:56.09 | Lonny | yeah :) |
| 02:56.12 | Shirik | which now is calling your hooked function, thus going back into your code, and calling global GetCursorInfo all over again |
| 02:56.34 | Shirik | now, your calling the original GetCursorInfo and you don't get into your hook again |
| 02:56.40 | Shirik | s/your/you're/ |
| 02:56.57 | Shirik | As a result, you don't have that recursion problem anymore |
| 02:57.01 | Shirik | do you understand this? |
| 02:57.03 | Lonny | yeah |
| 02:57.07 | Shirik | This isn't exactly an easy topic to explain |
| 02:57.45 | bleeter | from the super bizarre bug dept: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829572956&sid=1 |
| 02:57.48 | Lonny | I understand what you mean tho :) |
| 02:57.58 | bleeter | some dude's char is on fire, and nothing - not death or anything else - is removing the fire |
| 02:58.44 | Lonny | Thanks for the explanation it's much appreciated |
| 02:59.04 | Cidan | and |
| 02:59.07 | Cidan | Eredar crashed. |
| 02:59.22 | Arrowmaster | i thought hooksecurefunc didnt cause recursion |
| 02:59.35 | Sixen | Hai Zoot. |
| 03:00.00 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: It does when you call it again |
| 03:00.30 | Shirik | As alestane pointed out due to my mis-speaking, it doesn't modify the function |
| 03:00.43 | Shirik | it creates a new function that calls the old function and adjusts the global table accordingly |
| 03:01.03 | alestane | hooksecurefunc(func, hook) is the equivalent of _G[func] = function(...) local returns = {func(...)}; securecall(hook, ...); return unpack(returns) end |
| 03:01.11 | Wobin | bleeter: Flames... flames on the side of my face... |
| 03:01.31 | Shirik | not quite, alestane :) |
| 03:01.41 | Shirik | hooksecurefunc correctly returns nils iirc :) |
| 03:01.57 | Shirik | well not hooksecurefuc |
| 03:02.00 | Shirik | the hooked function |
| 03:02.07 | Xuerian | bleeter: haha that's awesome |
| 03:02.09 | alestane | Shirik: hooksecurefunc is all done is C and manipulates the Lua stack directly. |
| 03:02.37 | Shirik | I'm just saying your definition isn't entirely accurate :) unpack(returns) will drop nils |
| 03:02.59 | Shirik | other than that it looks good :) |
| 03:03.53 | Shirik | lua> function foo() return nil, nil, nil; end; print(foo); print "||"; print(unpack{foo()}) |
| 03:03.53 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x80a0b00, || |
| 03:03.55 | Shirik | er |
| 03:04.01 | Shirik | lua> function foo() return nil, nil, nil; end; print(foo()); print "||"; print(unpack{foo()}) |
| 03:04.01 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, nil, nil, || |
| 03:04.26 | Shirik | In C obviously it's much easier and works correctly |
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| 03:07.47 | alestane | Actually, I missed one importatn step...it's more like: |
| 03:08.09 | alestane | local func = _G[func]; _G[func] = function(...) local returns = {func(...)}; securecall(hook, ...); return unpack(returns) end |
| 03:09.13 | Syzgyn | Hehehe, 2shot Kalecgos |
| 03:09.19 | Syzgyn | totally cheesed it |
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| 03:22.47 | Shirik | Is microsoft full of idiots -_- |
| 03:23.04 | Shirik | Trying to make a connection to a server, so I use their API. I have to supply a port number, that makes sense |
| 03:23.18 | Shirik | A port number is just that, a number. So logically it makes sense to use a string to pass it to the API, right? |
| 03:23.31 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:23.50 | Kraps | tankpoints is cool |
| 03:24.59 | Wobin | Shirik: ("192.0.0.1", "eighty") =) |
| 03:25.42 | kd3 | lol |
| 03:25.51 | Shirik | like seriously |
| 03:25.56 | Shirik | my constructor just had to get 5 more lines |
| 03:25.58 | Shirik | worthless |
| 03:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: indeed it is, but remember not to take it as absolute law. : |
| 03:26.01 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 03:26.28 | Kraps | i have to, i suck at math... |
| 03:26.48 | NightHawkTheSane | well, its not about being good or bad at math, its just that numbers and formulas can only tell you so much |
| 03:26.50 | Kaso | 5 more lines for atoi(arg) ? |
| 03:26.55 | Kraps | anyway... |
| 03:27.04 | Shirik | Kaso: I need to allocate a buffer, etc. |
| 03:27.06 | NightHawkTheSane | at some point you have to take a step back and look at other things, like your situation, and overall gear |
| 03:27.15 | Shirik | and it's itoa, not atoi :) |
| 03:27.28 | Shirik | Also, I'm getting sick of Microsoft telling me "This function or variable may be unsafe. Consider using sprintf_s instead." |
| 03:27.36 | Shirik | I know how to check my buffers- |
| 03:27.39 | Kraps | any other essential tank addons i should know about? |
| 03:27.50 | Kaso | Damn, true >< |
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| 03:28.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not sure if it's updated, but I used to like TankBuddy, it did things like auto-yell/chat when you used challenging shout, last stand, etc, or if a taunt/mocking blow was resisted |
| 03:29.27 | Cidan | Shirik: What did they want, if not a string? |
| 03:29.36 | Shirik | no, they do want a string |
| 03:29.38 | Cidan | Don't they want some sort of structure, or do they want an int |
| 03:29.44 | Cidan | oh |
| 03:29.46 | Shirik | i.e., instead of port 12345, they want port "12345" |
| 03:29.51 | Cidan | oh |
| 03:29.52 | Cidan | wow. |
| 03:29.53 | Cidan | What? |
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| 03:30.04 | Shirik | I don't get it either |
| 03:30.16 | Iriel | Is this for TCP? |
| 03:30.27 | Shirik | yes |
| 03:30.28 | Iriel | I'd assume it's because you can specify ports by service name |
| 03:30.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me - yeah |
| 03:30.33 | Iriel | "smtp" |
| 03:30.34 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:30.36 | Shirik | that makes sense I guess |
| 03:30.38 | ScytheBlade1 | You're using the wrong API call |
| 03:30.40 | Shirik | Ok they are forgiven |
| 03:30.44 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Not according to the documentation |
| 03:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd imagine that there is another call which accepts a straight number |
| 03:30.54 | Shirik | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb530741(VS.85).aspx |
| 03:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh |
| 03:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Good stuff |
| 03:31.38 | Shirik | however with Iriel's remark, I guess it's somewhat reasonable |
| 03:31.42 | Iriel | You can just initialize the sockaddr yourself |
| 03:31.44 | Shirik | FOR NOW they're forigven |
| 03:31.44 | Iriel | if you want numbers |
| 03:31.49 | Iriel | you're using the 'resolve this name' function |
| 03:32.05 | Shirik | I don't really have familiarity with winsock |
| 03:32.09 | Shirik | otherwise I wouldn't be using this page :) |
| 03:32.10 | Iriel | Look up sockaddr_in |
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| 03:33.06 | Wobin | the term "sock" always fills me with mirth. |
| 03:33.24 | kd3 | what's the api call to cick off buffs? CancelBuff("Buff Name") |
| 03:33.25 | Wobin | I imagine all these network functions with cold toes. |
| 03:33.43 | Seerah | ~seen Xuerian |
| 03:33.44 | purl | xuerian is currently on #wowuidev (1h 26m 30s) #wowace (1h 26m 30s). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 31m 37s, last said: 'bleeter: haha that's awesome'. |
| 03:33.48 | Xuerian | Seerah: wut |
| 03:33.58 | Seerah | your minimap sticks out like a sore thumb :P |
| 03:34.00 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:34.04 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9192-PocketPlot.html |
| 03:34.08 | Xuerian | Seerah: Yeah well, I haven't fixed up my... |
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| 03:34.14 | Iriel | kd3: CancelUnitBuff, but it doesn't work for forms |
| 03:34.20 | Shirik | Iriel: But don't I need this function to resolve a server name? |
| 03:34.24 | Xuerian | Seerah: Do I have to use those blips? >_> |
| 03:34.28 | kd3 | someone had DI stuck on near archi's spawn point |
| 03:34.47 | Seerah | nah, you can change to whichever blips you want in the lua options |
| 03:34.48 | Iriel | Shirik: If you're resolving a server name you would (or a different function, that doens't worry about port) |
| 03:34.55 | Fogger | Mmmm, attempting to use Ackis Recipe List with Inscription makes whole game freeze :P |
| 03:35.04 | Xuerian | Seerah: Heh, shall use that then.. |
| 03:35.04 | Seerah | there are two sets in the folder, btw |
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| 03:35.45 | Iriel | Shirik: The point I was trying to make was that the socket API's all use numeric ports and addresses, it's just the resolver functions that take strings, and populate the structures. |
| 03:35.56 | Shirik | Yeah that makes sense now, thanks :) |
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| 03:37.01 | Iriel | Socket programming is so much fun 8-) |
| 03:37.05 | Iriel | I dont do nearly enough of it these days |
| 03:37.12 | ajmitch | and so profitable |
| 03:37.33 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: it rates my 41 sta chestplate higher than my 41 def chestplate |
| 03:37.44 | Kraps | same armor |
| 03:37.48 | Ackis | I wrote a chat server/client with sockets back in university |
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| 03:38.11 | Iriel | Ackis: as did I, mine even has a wikipedia entry 8-) |
| 03:38.19 | Ackis | ohh fancy |
| 03:38.30 | Iriel | It was a surprise to me! |
| 03:38.36 | Ackis | lol |
| 03:38.39 | Xuerian | Are you going to link us or just brag smugly? |
| 03:38.49 | Ackis | brag imo |
| 03:39.06 | Kaso | Isn't the chat client/server a fairly common uni level project? |
| 03:39.16 | Kaso | i have written one also |
| 03:39.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It's supposed to be a uni level project? :/ |
| 03:39.22 | Kaso | no wikipedia article :( |
| 03:39.35 | Shirik | Kaso: somewhat |
| 03:39.42 | Iriel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesehouse_(talker) [Though the page name is wrong, the description gets the name right] |
| 03:39.50 | Shirik | Both my OS and Realtime classes did something on server/client models |
| 03:39.55 | Iriel | This was for the hell of it |
| 03:39.58 | Iriel | rather than a project |
| 03:39.58 | Shirik | the realtime one was interesting |
| 03:40.14 | ajmitch | we did a simple game as well - the chat server/client was done with the bluetooth api for java for a wireless class |
| 03:40.23 | Iriel | Java! Bah, pure C |
| 03:40.29 | Iriel | (Then C++) |
| 03:40.57 | ajmitch | java so that we got to enjoy the wonders of J2ME |
| 03:41.31 | ajmitch | the class that was all about network programming was all C |
| 03:41.32 | Iriel | (Dont get me wrong, I like Java quite a bit, but it didn't really exist back then) |
| 03:42.36 | Wobin | Iriel: "Cheeseplant"? |
| 03:42.38 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 03:43.14 | Cidan | Zootfizzle: You! |
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| 03:43.18 | Iriel | Wobin: Yes indeed, an earlier pseudonym from the depths of my youth (THe origins had much to do with scrabble) |
| 03:43.24 | Zootfizzle | Hey ;) |
| 03:43.27 | Iriel | Mr Zoot! |
| 03:43.29 | Kaso | i remember for my chat client i wanted to be able to take a password from the console without it being printed as the user typed, so i implemented an entire consolebuffer etc stuff using getche() myself. I think that wasnt the ideal way to do that. |
| 03:43.29 | Ackis | Iriel: i hated java =/ I liked the whole concept with C that it does what I tell it to do |
| 03:43.36 | Tekkub | King of the Gnomes! |
| 03:43.37 | Cidan | I've got a UI bug that I reported a year ago, Mr Fizzle! |
| 03:43.43 | Shirik | oh snap |
| 03:43.47 | Tekkub | that's not a bug |
| 03:43.50 | Shirik | Don't tackle him in here, Cidan :) |
| 03:44.03 | Fogger | Ackis: Are you aware Recipe List freezes the client when used on Inscription panel? |
| 03:44.03 | Shirik | Even though I do from time to time |
| 03:44.13 | Ackis | Fogger: yes maybe no |
| 03:44.44 | Fogger | thats pretty imba! |
| 03:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Tekkub: probably not |
| 03:45.01 | Cidan | Anyway |
| 03:45.06 | Cidan | Zombies |
| 03:45.09 | Cidan | Paladins |
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| 03:45.12 | Cidan | Who will win? |
| 03:45.15 | Tekkub | yea, he sucks! |
| 03:45.17 | Shirik | Stop being mean to Zootfizzle everyone :( He needs his "me" time, especially since as a gnome everyone wants to punt him |
| 03:45.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i wasn't being mean! just truthful |
| 03:45.37 | Iriel | So.. should I fire up WoW, or Fable 2? |
| 03:45.39 | Iriel | choices choices |
| 03:45.42 | Tekkub | me time my ass |
| 03:45.43 | Cidan | Fable 2 |
| 03:45.46 | Tekkub | he wasn't even here |
| 03:45.48 | Cidan | I am loving Fable 2 |
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| 03:45.52 | Cidan | It's pretty dark. |
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| 03:46.00 | Zoot | Holy crap that was terrible |
| 03:46.01 | Iriel | So far it' been enjoyable and free from most of the irriations of the original |
| 03:46.09 | Cidan | Indeed |
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| 03:46.18 | Zoot | I ghosted my old self, my client changed my name to Zootfizzle, and then Freenode kicked me AGAIN |
| 03:46.22 | Iriel | Though the Start button menu needs to remember where I was |
| 03:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | fable 2, imo |
| 03:46.40 | Shirik | (23:44:52) - Quit: Zoot (n=z00t@ip68-228-88-134.oc.oc.cox.net) (Killed by clarke.freenode.net (Nick collision)) |
| 03:46.45 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 03:46.52 | Shirik | That's not a ghost though |
| 03:46.54 | Fisker- | my computers says it has installed updates |
| 03:46.56 | Shirik | so.... somethings wierd :) |
| 03:47.04 | Tekkub | good thing Zooty doesn't work on the chat system in WoW... |
| 03:47.09 | Fisker- | but i updated when the updates were released QQ |
| 03:47.10 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 03:47.33 | Ackis | poor zoot just gets harassed here lol |
| 03:47.42 | Shirik | nah, we all <3 him |
| 03:47.43 | Fisker- | Ackis my enemy |
| 03:47.51 | Shirik | Even if we secretly want to punt him |
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| 03:48.00 | Fisker- | why so enemous? |
| 03:48.02 | Shirik | haha |
| 03:48.05 | Shirik | Seems that I don't even need to |
| 03:48.26 | Fisker- | Penny Pouches, Toothpicks and Hallowed Wand - Random is my mortal enemy |
| 03:48.41 | NightHawkTheSane | on that, Fisker-, we can agree |
| 03:48.51 | Zoot|work | Okay |
| 03:49.09 | Shirik | ~staple Zoot|work |
| 03:49.10 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Zoot|work quite well, and hands Zoot|work to shirik |
| 03:49.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: kinky] |
| 03:49.22 | Iriel | Fisker-: I got both blue items yesterday, consecutively, from the same innkeeper |
| 03:49.22 | Fisker- | sounds hot Ackis |
| 03:49.30 | Fisker- | already have them |
| 03:49.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Iriel: .. /hate :p |
| 03:49.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 03:50.09 | kd3 | sigh. first archi kill and we're rotting loot |
| 03:50.21 | Ackis | lol |
| 03:50.22 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Guest55345!n=z00t@WoWUIDev/Blizz/Zooty-Zoot-Zoot] by Zootfizzle (Kick!) |
| 03:50.35 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: o_0 |
| 03:50.38 | Ackis | Fisker-: come warm me up |
| 03:50.51 | kd3 | the mail of fevered pursuit |
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| 03:51.13 | Fisker- | any plague crates in shattrath? |
| 03:51.29 | Mikk | http://forums.wowace.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34 <- One single button that fires up "config mode" in all addons that have it, i.e. show dummy bars / drag handles / make things movable / sizeable, etc. Input plix! |
| 03:52.07 | Shirik | who am I kidding he's too short to duck under :( |
| 03:52.10 | Seerah | you can't duck under us gnomes :P |
| 03:52.16 | Seerah | ~lart Shirik |
| 03:52.16 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Shirik |
| 03:52.48 | Shirik | BEs have a severe advantage over gnomes |
| 03:53.01 | Shirik | ever seen those movies where the bully holds out his arm when the poor kid is trying to hit him and he can't reach? |
| 03:53.05 | Shirik | That's what I envision :) |
| 03:53.11 | Seerah | what's the name of the mod that tries to do this now, Mikk? |
| 03:53.34 | Ackis | wheee Darkmoon Faire: Honored - 100/12000 (0.8%) |
| 03:54.04 | Xuerian | Seerah: Thanks for the map :p |
| 03:54.08 | Xuerian | Mikk: Nice idea |
| 03:54.09 | Seerah | yw :) |
| 03:54.17 | Seerah | let me know if there's anything worth improving |
| 03:54.25 | Xuerian | A option to use default blips would be good |
| 03:54.28 | Tekkub | is zoot stable now? |
| 03:54.34 | Xuerian | or just a comment with the default path |
| 03:54.36 | Tekkub | or should I wait to make fun of him? |
| 03:54.47 | Mikk | Seerah: Aeuh nothing to my knowledge. The Warhammer game does it. |
| 03:54.50 | Seerah | Xuerian: did you find the default path? |
| 03:54.55 | Xuerian | Seerah: Haven't looked yet :p |
| 03:55.02 | Seerah | Mikk: it starts with n |
| 03:55.05 | Seerah | nSomething |
| 03:55.56 | kd3 | ho, apparently we're not rotting the mail |
| 03:56.37 | Seerah | wish I could browse wowace easier... (mikk) |
| 03:57.56 | Seerah | Xuerian: Interface\\Minimap\\OBJECTICONS.blp |
| 03:58.14 | Seerah | hrmm... there's a new icon in there that I don't know what it's for... |
| 03:58.18 | Seerah | new blip |
| 03:58.36 | Xuerian | Seerah: Thanky |
| 03:58.41 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:59.03 | Xuerian | When was demonic leap replaced with demonic charge? :( |
| 03:59.03 | Seerah | Anyone know what the whitish diamond is for in the minimap blips? |
| 04:00.27 | Xuerian | Seriously, that made metamorphosis fun... |
| 04:01.16 | Xuerian | "So, what are your huge wings for?" "SHUT UP" |
| 04:01.39 | Seerah | Mikk: AHA! found it! :) http://www.wowace.com/projects/nshakedown/ |
| 04:02.23 | Mikk | I assume it's got hardcoded functions to call? |
| 04:02.27 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 04:02.35 | Seerah | not exactly what you were proposing |
| 04:02.43 | Seerah | but perhaps you could talk to Nemes about it :) |
| 04:02.45 | Mikk | No, but adding a callout to my table sounds like an excellent idea |
| 04:03.08 | Xuerian | Really, I'd think you'd want two functions in the table, one config start and one config end, allowing for simple movement modes or more detailed config modes |
| 04:03.57 | Mikk | Umm what would two functions provide over just passing in "ON" / "OFF" / "FUTUREFUNKYSHIT" parameters? |
| 04:04.02 | Ackis | Tekkub: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=248161 gimme answers pls |
| 04:04.11 | Mikk | Except using more ram? =) |
| 04:04.17 | Xuerian | Ah... On/off makes sense |
| 04:04.28 | Xuerian | Didn't read it >_> |
| 04:04.30 | Mikk | =) |
| 04:05.08 | Tekkub | Ackis |
| 04:05.15 | Tekkub | you're not going to like the answer |
| 04:05.47 | Ackis | i'm an idiot? |
| 04:05.49 | Tekkub | "return ".... |
| 04:06.05 | Ackis | omfg |
| 04:06.06 | Ackis | wow |
| 04:06.15 | Tekkub | told you you weren't gonna like it |
| 04:06.18 | Ackis | I just need to add a return ... to each one |
| 04:07.00 | Tekkub | now back to making NutCounter |
| 04:07.30 | Ackis | i have two |
| 04:07.42 | Fisker- | Anyone that can reroll on my server, level to 70, go to shattrath and put me in an av queue? |
| 04:07.58 | Ackis | brt Fisker- |
| 04:09.17 | Dewin | what server? |
| 04:09.26 | Fisker- | Ravencrest EU |
| 04:09.53 | Ackis | oh I already ahve a 70 there |
| 04:10.04 | Tekkub | Ackis, |
| 04:10.05 | Tekkub | ## Title: NutCounter |
| 04:10.06 | Tekkub | ## Notes: 1, 2... 3? |
| 04:10.06 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 04:10.23 | Ackis | lol |
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| 04:14.17 | Dewin | how do I convince the wow launcher that I have the PTR client installed? |
| 04:14.42 | kd3 | just run the PTR directly? |
| 04:14.55 | NightHawkTheSane | bribe it with booze and hookers |
| 04:15.04 | Dewin | For that matter, I need to convince the blizz website of the same |
| 04:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | booze and hookers. |
| 04:15.27 | Dewin | ah nvm |
| 04:15.30 | Dewin | it's behaving now |
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| 04:16.20 | Dewin | interesting, it's letting me copy to Lich King/Northrend and not the usual PTR servers... |
| 04:18.08 | Dewin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676598109&sid=1 ohh. bleh. |
| 04:19.10 | Shirik | wow! |
| 04:19.13 | Shirik | Message I've never seen before |
| 04:19.17 | Ackis | wwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 04:19.56 | Shirik | "You are critically low on memory. Windows has closed the following programs to recover memory: Firefox. Windows will only close enough programs to recover needed memory." |
| 04:21.26 | Shirik | I wonder why Windows would even do that :/ shouldn't it just start denying memory allocation requests? |
| 04:21.40 | Dewin | eh, even Linux will OOM-kill processes if it needs to. |
| 04:22.04 | Dewin | and denying memory allocation requests is 'less stable' since a lot of crufty code assumes malloc() will always succeed |
| 04:22.16 | Shirik | I yell at my devs when they do that :) |
| 04:22.26 | Shirik | Doing that on a PC is (relatively) ok. Doing that on an embedded system... |
| 04:22.33 | Shirik | not ok |
| 04:24.36 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 04:24.51 | Shirik | All of my errors are in library files. So I used something wrong.... but I have no idea where >< |
| 04:27.32 | Fisker- | Never seen windows do that >:3 |
| 04:27.56 | Shirik | no that would be me |
| 04:27.58 | Fisker- | And i had some program that used so much memory that my mem info script bugged out :D |
| 04:28.23 | Shirik | and I found it, but... I think it's actually a non-standard-compliant portion of the API, however I'd have to read the C++ standard to be sure |
| 04:28.34 | Fisker- | what a shame |
| 04:28.38 | Fisker- | spoilsports get up early |
| 04:29.56 | Shirik | ... huh? |
| 04:30.02 | Shirik | Even for Fisker-, you're not making much sense right now |
| 04:30.23 | Fisker- | idiots running around dispelling anyone and anything with the plague |
| 04:30.29 | Wobin | dogs fucked the pope, no fault of mine |
| 04:30.36 | Fisker- | nice |
| 04:31.05 | Wobin | pft, It's not like the zombies are unreasonable =( |
| 04:31.18 | Wobin | This event needs more JoCo |
| 04:31.55 | Dashkal | mmm, messing up the haloween wand market by casting my spares for free |
| 04:34.24 | Tekkub | did they put a lexicon in shatt yet? |
| 04:35.59 | Fisker- | there's no new patch yet? :3 |
| 04:36.12 | Wobin | Fisker, man, you just -got- a patch! |
| 04:36.21 | Fisker- | not possible |
| 04:36.21 | Wobin | it's barely a week old! |
| 04:36.23 | Fisker- | i'm perfect |
| 04:36.36 | cladhaire | Yssaril: I dont know, I have not had a chance to look at it yet. |
| 04:36.38 | Fisker- | When did lexicon's of power get introduced though? |
| 04:36.58 | Yssaril | clad|rowing: np |
| 04:38.42 | Wobin | hehe http://failblog.org/2008/08/15/layout-fail/ |
| 04:40.30 | kd3 | oh, the armory fails |
| 04:40.39 | kd3 | it isn't parsing |4 correctly |
| 04:40.42 | kd3 | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=3383 |
| 04:45.03 | Shirik | hrm |
| 04:45.10 | Shirik | I just realized there is a Shirik_ online.... from my server |
| 04:45.14 | Shirik | I wonder how long he's been there |
| 04:45.22 | Shirik | signed on 3 weeks ago |
| 04:45.23 | Shirik | holy crap |
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| 04:47.05 | Shirik_ | Nice! I left this screen detached 3 weeks ago and completely forgot about it :/ |
| 04:47.08 | Shirik_ | bye bye |
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| 04:50.18 | seebs | Huh, the official download client downloads 2.3.0. This will take a while... |
| 04:51.09 | Shirik | I was told there was a 3.0 client somewhere |
| 04:51.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik_ (n=Shirik@83.120.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 04:51.28 | seebs | Couldn't find one. |
| 04:52.21 | Shirik | I wouldn't know for sure, just saying it's what someone said |
| 04:52.56 | seebs | It makes sense that there would be, I was actually pretty surprised. |
| 04:53.23 | Neuro_Medivh | http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/online-divorcee-jailed-after-killing-virtual-hubby/1259111 |
| 04:54.08 | seebs | I saw that. Wacky. |
| 04:54.12 | Thunder_Child | "The man complained to police when he discovered that his beloved online avatar was dead. " |
| 04:54.14 | Thunder_Child | the cops? |
| 04:54.23 | seebs | I guess. |
| 04:54.25 | Thunder_Child | reality check anyone? |
| 04:54.26 | seebs | It's a thing-worth-money. |
| 04:54.37 | seebs | I assume he was going after the economic value of the avatar, rather than the murder charges. |
| 04:55.24 | seebs | I'm in the middle of reloading my usual game box, so I figured I'd do a clean download of the client and all. |
| 04:55.34 | Shirik | omg maple story! |
| 04:55.36 | Shirik | I used to play that! |
| 04:57.30 | Fisker- | suddenly you'll get killed Shirik |
| 04:57.37 | Shirik | I'll kill you |
| 04:58.06 | Fisker- | you can't |
| 04:58.26 | |Jelly| | ~whalenuke Shirik |
| 04:58.27 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Shirik with his mind powers. |
| 04:58.35 | Shirik | ~dodge |Jelly| |
| 04:58.36 | purl | at the last second shirik dodges out of the way of |Jelly|'s malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 04:58.48 | |Jelly| | ...you can't dodge a nuke. |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | I believe I just did |
| 04:59.03 | |Jelly| | You. Can't. Dodge. A. Nuke. |
| 04:59.12 | kd3 | hide in a fridge? |
| 04:59.22 | Wobin | heheh |
| 04:59.24 | Shirik | batbot: Can I dodge a nuke? |
| 04:59.24 | batbot | Shirik, \(o_O)/ |
| 04:59.26 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:59.31 | Shirik | batbot: Can I dodge a nuke? |
| 04:59.31 | batbot | Shirik, My reply is no. |
| 04:59.33 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:59.44 | Fisker- | batbot: shut up? |
| 04:59.44 | batbot | Fisker-, You may rely on it. |
| 04:59.47 | Fisker- | awesum |
| 04:59.48 | Wobin | batbot: Can Shirik dodge a nuke in a fridge? |
| 04:59.48 | batbot | Wobin, Most likely. |
| 04:59.58 | kd3 | rofl |
| 05:00.12 | Wobin | although, that's probably due to the fridge containing the nuke enough, that he can dodge it =P |
| 05:02.20 | Shirik | I rezzed |
| 05:02.28 | norgs | as if not duck and cover |
| 05:02.53 | Xuerian | Nerubian Weaver [Timewalk] ftw |
| 05:03.23 | Xuerian | Well no.. You'd just jump right back into the radiation. |
| 05:03.40 | NightHawkTheSane | There's something satisfying about mobbing a paladin with a horde of zombies and making them one of us. |
| 05:03.52 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: hahahaha you did? |
| 05:03.52 | Wobin | Xuerian: unless he spirit ressed |
| 05:04.05 | Xuerian | Wobin: meant DotA |
| 05:04.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: several times! a dozen or so of us took over XR |
| 05:04.15 | Xuerian | lol nice |
| 05:04.28 | Fisker- | how can you make a paladin into a zombie unless he sucks or there's like 60 of you? |
| 05:04.40 | seebs | I think it gets harder to cleanse over time. |
| 05:04.42 | Wobin | Xuerian: damnit now I have that song stuck in my head =( |
| 05:04.50 | NightHawkTheSane | at points there must have been close to a hundred zombies in & around xr. |
| 05:04.57 | Xuerian | Wobin: lulz |
| 05:05.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: there were like 60 of us. |
| 05:05.18 | seebs | Anyone know when the event ends? |
| 05:05.29 | Wobin | seebs: check your game calendar |
| 05:05.31 | seebs | Blues have hinted that it's sooner than the 13th, but that doesn't tell me all that much. |
| 05:05.48 | Zootfizzle | What makes you think the Scourge ever ends, seebs? |
| 05:05.50 | seebs | The game calendar doesn't say anything about the zombie invasion, just about Hallow's End. :) |
| 05:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | although its honestly not too hard if you have like ~6+ish, as you can lay down enough of the green stuff and knock enough time off his debuff to make keep you up and make him go down fast |
| 05:06.00 | Wobin | oh I thought it was a haloween event |
| 05:06.08 | seebs | No, it's not. It's the WotLK lead-up event. |
| 05:06.12 | Shirik | Wobin: I was under the impression that it was a wotlk event |
| 05:06.15 | Wobin | good enough |
| 05:06.22 | NightHawkTheSane | seebs: the scourge is forever. the scourge is infinite. the scourge is. |
| 05:06.24 | Wobin | I've not played since before patch =P |
| 05:06.29 | Zootfizzle | I guess we probably did by telling you it would. :P |
| 05:06.32 | Shirik | And we are all doomed |
| 05:06.35 | Shirik | And I blame Zootfizzle |
| 05:06.36 | Zootfizzle | That was anticlimactic of us. |
| 05:06.42 | Wobin | Zootfizzle: terrrible =( |
| 05:06.50 | seebs | Eh, I don't want something climactic. I wanna go do my Hallow's End quests. |
| 05:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Zootfizzle: well, all good things must come to an end ;) |
| 05:07.13 | kd3 | meh. I get the feeling blizz isn't done surprising us yet |
| 05:07.23 | NightHawkTheSane | with the exception of the matron, the two don't really interesect much do they? |
| 05:07.29 | kd3 | though I must admit, this scourge invasion is a lot more amusing than the last one |
| 05:07.33 | Shirik | kd3: I heard there was some kind of expansion they're going to release next month |
| 05:07.35 | seebs | I'm one of the token complainers. I can't handle PvP, so I'm offline until it's over. |
| 05:07.41 | Shirik | shh, you didn't hear it from me though |
| 05:07.46 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: amusing yes, although the last one had it's nice points too |
| 05:08.06 | NightHawkTheSane | seebs: you know, i'm honestly not a pvper either, but I must say, zombification is fun as fuck |
| 05:08.26 | seebs | It's not that I'm not a big PvPer, it's that PvP totally freaks me out. I can't handle it at all. |
| 05:08.31 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: I admit, I'm not a WoW pvper, but WAR pvp is quite entertaining. |
| 05:08.38 | Wobin | seebs: Much the same |
| 05:08.40 | seebs | So I'm just waiting it out. |
| 05:08.52 | Wobin | zombification isn't really pvp though |
| 05:08.55 | NightHawkTheSane | seebs: i'm kinda the same too. |
| 05:08.56 | seebs | Sure it is. |
| 05:09.02 | Wobin | since you can make them "one of us" =) |
| 05:09.06 | seebs | There are other players, and they can attack me. |
| 05:09.07 | seebs | That's PvP. |
| 05:09.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: *nod* i imagine i might like pvp in WAR. (or rvr?) |
| 05:09.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, half the time you're just being up town guards anyway |
| 05:09.22 | seebs | If I'd wanted PvP, I woulda flagged at some point in the last two and a half years, or even rolled on a PvP server. |
| 05:09.42 | kd3 | hm... wonder if there's 3 more cooking recipes I can find |
| 05:10.00 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: RvR is hardly ever one on one, which is what puts me off PvP mostly. |
| 05:10.00 | seebs | I'm pretty much in the minority there, but it sucks for me because I can't play and they're being all coy about telling us when the PvP event is over so we can go back to our stuff. |
| 05:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: if you're alliance, probably not, if you're horde, then yes.. the alliance only recipies ;)( |
| 05:10.23 | kd3 | 97/100 |
| 05:10.24 | Wobin | although |
| 05:10.33 | Wobin | You should take this opportunity in zombies |
| 05:10.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: yeah, agreed. |
| 05:10.37 | Wobin | to cross faction trade |
| 05:10.40 | kd3 | ^^^ |
| 05:10.49 | kd3 | yay for getting stuff across without paying the goblins |
| 05:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | you make a good point >.> i should set do that with some friends at some point. get those damn alliance pets. |
| 05:12.02 | seebs | I always just two-box the cross-faction trade. Auction things for a copper. Post, search, buyout. |
| 05:12.15 | Wobin | seebs: can still fail =( |
| 05:12.20 | Wobin | not very likely, mind you... |
| 05:12.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont have a second account ;\ |
| 05:12.32 | seebs | It can, but I've never had it fail yet, and I figure the amount of money I save makes up for it. |
| 05:12.42 | seebs | I used to coordinate with a friend. |
| 05:12.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i've been meaning to try and get my hands on a BCCE,if i could, i'd probably spend the money to get a second account |
| 05:12.55 | Wobin | you're still paying auction fees though, right? |
| 05:12.57 | seebs | We'd meet in Booty Bay, and use a prearranged set of emotes to indicate when we posted. |
| 05:13.08 | seebs | The auction fee is 15% of the sale price. You get your full deposit back. |
| 05:13.16 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:13.23 | seebs | So if the deposit is 3g, and you sell something for 1s, you get back 3g0s85c. |
| 05:13.42 | NightHawkTheSane | the fee is typically so minimal if you're not spending large amounts of money that even 15% isnt bad |
| 05:14.15 | seebs | Yup. It's brutal if you want to exchange money cross-faction, but there's no real need to. |
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| 05:14.34 | seebs | If you can get to a neutral AH, you can just send yourself faction recipes for cheap and make a ton of money. |
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| 05:15.26 | seebs | My primary newbie money trick remains the L1 fish recipes. They cost 40c, they don't have a deposit at AH, and people will pay gold for them. |
| 05:15.52 | Tekkub | I just DE |
| 05:15.57 | Tekkub | people love dust |
| 05:16.04 | Tekkub | and it's free to auction |
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| 05:16.33 | NightHawkTheSane | unless it's mid-level stuff, dust doesn't sell well on my realm |
| 05:17.00 | Fisker- | or you can trade yourself with ZOMBIES >:3 |
| 05:17.06 | Fisker- | unless they fixed that |
| 05:17.12 | seebs | Yeah, dust's great. |
| 05:17.18 | seebs | I have funded mounts off that stuff. |
| 05:17.36 | Neuro_Medivh | on my server, it's Illusion Dust that sells the best |
| 05:17.52 | Neuro_Medivh | twink market I'm guessing |
| 05:17.52 | Wobin | http://coilhouse.net/2008/10/23/weekly-ad-uncoiling-black-decker-lawnmowers/ |
| 05:17.54 | seebs | Yeah, illusion/nether seems to be the sweet spot for value. |
| 05:17.55 | Wobin | O.O |
| 05:18.16 | Tekkub | I need to hit my furries up and get a bunch of horde pets for my ally bitches |
| 05:18.22 | seebs | Pre-BC, eternal essences were awesome. Even post-BC, you could get a ton of money off the twink market by selling eternal essences farmed from pre-outlands greens. |
| 05:18.46 | seebs | L57-59 pre-outlands greens got to be pretty much worthless, although there aren't that many of them. |
| 05:19.00 | Tekkub | often the 60ish mats go for more than the 70ish ones |
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| 05:20.05 | Neuro_Medivh | right now, illusion dust is running around 2.5g per on my server, whereas Arcane Dust is under 1g per |
| 05:21.03 | Tekkub | 60ish herbs were a bitch to find before people started raping the AH for inscription |
| 05:22.00 | Xuerian | Tekkub: Sungrass... awesome. |
| 05:22.15 | Xuerian | 20g+ a stack, a stack in 8 minutes running around hinterlands |
| 05:22.21 | Tekkub | sungrass is a tier before the 60ish stuff |
| 05:22.41 | Xuerian | Yeah, you're right, silversage went for even more |
| 05:26.15 | Dewin | hmm... need a name for a shadow priest |
| 05:27.16 | Xuerian | Serious or comedic? |
| 05:27.51 | Tekkub | race? :P |
| 05:29.48 | Dewin | RP server so it can't be too comedic, umm... thinking female draenei (which would make it my first female toon) but not decided yet |
| 05:30.13 | Dewin | I have a bank of about 30 names but only ~3 of them are female, only 1 of those fits, and it's taken. |
| 05:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Personally, i pull reasonably appropriate names from obscure characters in relatively unknown books |
| 05:32.45 | Dewin | I used to admin a roleplaying forum, i pull from the bajillion characters and other lore I created :) |
| 05:33.06 | NightHawkTheSane | that works too |
| 05:33.12 | Dewin | << Jeveren Rynelas has 25 characters. >> some of which aren't true characters but represent a small group. |
| 05:34.40 | Dewin | I tend to use the same names for the same types of characters too. Ryndel has to be a hunter, ranger or woodsman type. |
| 05:34.59 | Dewin | Eledryn a druid, Tira a priestess (that's the one that's taken), etc. |
| 05:37.43 | Mystic | Hey all, i'm still kinda new to coding, what text editor would you recommend for windows? |
| 05:37.55 | Mike-N-Go | For addon writing? |
| 05:38.05 | Mystic | Yeah |
| 05:38.08 | Dewin | I'm a fan of Notepad++ myself |
| 05:38.09 | Mike-N-Go | Pick something better then Notepad =] |
| 05:38.22 | Mystic | xD |
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| 05:38.46 | Dewin | http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm w/ the nppexec plugin and my (customized) zenburn theme > all |
| 05:38.58 | cog|away | i'm a fan of visual studio for xml because of the way it does code completion |
| 05:39.06 | cog|away | and I use SciTE for Lua |
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| 05:39.12 | Mike-N-Go | Notepad++ should be better then it without the ++ 9.9 |
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| 05:39.40 | Dewin | cog|away: I used sciTE briefly, before I realized I could make Notepad++'s exec plugin do basically the same thing |
| 05:39.47 | Mike-N-Go | I dunno, I am a mac user. |
| 05:40.09 | Dewin | + I use it for PHP and SQL too so it's nice having one program that does it all |
| 05:40.23 | cog|away | oh i don't even use those features of it. I just treat it like a simple text editor |
| 05:40.25 | Mystic | Cool, thanks guys |
| 05:40.34 | cog|away | i just like the interface |
| 05:40.50 | Wobin | gvim |
| 05:41.26 | Dewin | man, I had such a witty response lined up, but you said gvim not emacs. |
| 05:41.42 | cog|away | oh and i like how simply it handles utf8 vs ascii |
| 05:41.46 | Wobin | sorry =) |
| 05:41.49 | Dewin | The response was going to be "he asked for a text editor, not an operating system" |
| 05:42.52 | Wobin | just about every other editor =P |
| 05:43.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 05:44.34 | NightHawkTheSane | beating up on chocobos is such easy xp/jp in ff tactics.. |
| 05:51.28 | kd3 | yay. 100 cooking recipes |
| 05:51.33 | kd3 | done with that til wrath |
| 05:52.00 | kd3 | gack. 160's next |
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| 06:04.24 | Cidan | so |
| 06:04.28 | Shirik|zZz | no |
| 06:04.30 | Cidan | I wonder if Blizzard fixed the game |
| 06:04.33 | Cidan | in 3.0.3 |
| 06:04.38 | Cidan | so it doesn't lock up every 15 seconds |
| 06:04.44 | Cidan | with 100% CPU usage. |
| 06:05.01 | Shirik|zZz | :( |
| 06:05.08 | Shirik|zZz | you're sure that's not an addon? |
| 06:05.13 | Cidan | Yup |
| 06:05.22 | Cidan | Happens with all of them disabled, etc, cleared cache |
| 06:05.24 | seebs | It's something some people encounter but not all. |
| 06:05.29 | Cidan | there's a huge 19 page thread on it |
| 06:05.34 | seebs | I was just reading about it on the WINE pages, too. |
| 06:06.24 | Mike-N-Go | Would anyone care to beta test my mod Trade Secretary: Ad Repeater? It sends your defined ads to the trade channel to advertise your exotic goods, or items you wish to buy. All I ask is for you to email me your feedback. |
| 06:07.36 | ccox | cidan - could also be a video or sound driver issue |
| 06:07.58 | Cidan | Dunno |
| 06:08.09 | Cidan | would make sense if it's fmod |
| 06:08.10 | Mike-N-Go | PM me you email if you would like to help me with this. |
| 06:08.16 | Cidan | but it gets worse as the game is open longer |
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| 06:10.47 | seebs | MNG, might be interesting, but: 1. I'm worried about spam issues. 2. Can't log in for a while. :) |
| 06:11.00 | seebs | I recall liking your mail mod, though. |
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| 06:11.15 | seebs | Note that the advertising thing got a lot less necessary with the ability to link a whole tradeskill. |
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| 06:14.21 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, given the new tradeskill links, i wonder how possible it would be to make "shopping list" mod, where you mark what things you want crafted, and the mod scans any tradeskill links it sees in chat, and makes a note if the person can craft anything you want. |
| 06:14.50 | seebs | That'd be sorta cool. |
| 06:15.04 | seebs | Well, go on. Do it. :) |
| 06:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 06:15.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not something i'd actually use, i don't think. I'm also probably not smart enough to do that. :D |
| 06:16.57 | cog|away | /headdesk |
| 06:17.02 | cog|away | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829523219&sid=1 |
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| 06:17.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 06:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | to be fair, though, it's not -completely- unheard of to do limited-run re-issues of older limited-run products like that. |
| 06:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | (just generally unlikely) |
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| 06:31.01 | seebs | Blizz would get a lot of complaints if they did a new "collector's edition", from people who figure their special pets or whatever are being undermined by it. |
| 06:31.33 | Neuro_Medivh | it wouldn't be called a collectors edition |
| 06:31.36 | Neuro_Medivh | they're smarter than that |
| 06:31.53 | Neuro_Medivh | it would be "WoW Classic, Special Edition" |
| 06:32.07 | Neuro_Medivh | or "Gold Edition" |
| 06:32.21 | Neuro_Medivh | Like, WoW + BC + Collectors pets for both |
| 06:32.31 | Neuro_Medivh | at a significant markup |
| 06:33.36 | Neuro_Medivh | I could definately see a WoW + BC combo pack being sold though |
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| 06:35.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I think they already sell a WoW battle chest, that has both. |
| 06:35.11 | NightHawkTheSane | (not CE, obviously..) |
| 06:35.35 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, has anyone noticed an attitude of entitlement growing amongst the UI userbase? |
| 06:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | who do you mean by 'ui userbase' and 'entitlement'? |
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| 06:37.08 | Neuro_Medivh | by 'ui userbase' I mean that large portion of those who download and use mods, and entitlement being that sense of "where the f*** is my updated mod??? And why doesn't it do exactly what I want it to do???" |
| 06:37.33 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* i thoght thats what you meant, but i wanted to be sure. |
| 06:37.39 | seebs | I don't know that it's changed much since I started playing with them. |
| 06:37.55 | seebs | It seems to be about the same; everyone expects mod authors to update everything right away. |
| 06:38.09 | Neuro_Medivh | maybe it's that more people are using them |
| 06:38.13 | NightHawkTheSane | I think part of it has to do with the recent wowace/curse change. As I've said, a lot of end-users were treated rather well at wowace, and the changes have set that back slightly, they probably feel a bit put off |
| 06:38.43 | Neuro_Medivh | but even in my guild, there's this attitude of "I can't play if X addon isn't working 100%. No, I can't be bothered to find an alternative" |
| 06:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | At the same time, 3.0 hitting live means a lot of mods needed to be updated, and it didn't always happen fast. |
| 06:39.01 | seebs | They've set me back a lot more than "slightly", because so many mods are mispackaged. |
| 06:39.03 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane, maybe that's why I'm noticing it more |
| 06:39.15 | seebs | On Linux, the embedded addons have about a 40% success rate for me. |
| 06:39.45 | seebs | Tons of things like case mismatches in directory or file names. When I switched to the no-ext versions on wowace, I stopped having noticeable problems. |
| 06:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | possibly, it's easy to get spoiled by your mods when most of the time they don't break very much. |
| 06:40.27 | seebs | I probably ended up replacing about half of mine this time around. |
| 06:40.40 | Neuro_Medivh | the ones that get to me are when the Blizzard UI is the user's "issue", and they blame my mod |
| 06:40.56 | Zootfizzle | I hate it when that happens ;) |
| 06:41.08 | Neuro_Medivh | Or, some other mod that used to work fine in conjunction with mine, and the other mod hasn't been updated yet, and they post bug reports to me |
| 06:41.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Zootfizzle, in that case it IS your mod =) |
| 06:41.30 | Corrodias | well, in that case, the users probably can't tell which mod is "causing" the problem |
| 06:41.59 | Zootfizzle | My definition of mod isn't nearly as inclusive xD |
| 06:42.22 | Neuro_Medivh | Corrodias, maybe I'm overestimating the users' ability to troubleshoot their own addons |
| 06:42.33 | Neuro_Medivh | but I've never had a problem figuring out which mod was causing problems |
| 06:42.41 | Corrodias | you probably are |
| 06:42.42 | Neuro_Medivh | except in rare cases |
| 06:42.48 | Corrodias | for a lot of people, being able to install an addon is a stretch |
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| 06:43.10 | Corrodias | expecting them to significantly investigate an issue is to pretend they installed WoW themselves |
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| 06:43.45 | Corrodias | some of them don't know what a .rar is |
| 06:43.47 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, I know... I harken back to a day when if you had a computer, it was assumed you knew how to operate it =) |
| 06:44.51 | Neuro_Medivh | just old man ranting I guess |
| 06:45.03 | Zootfizzle | Neuro_Medivh: I'll take a look at the TOC stuff, I think the way we're doing it, case insensitivity might be in the cards |
| 06:45.17 | Corrodias | i am decent with windows, but i'm basically lost in linux. some people consider that pretty noobish of me. :/ |
| 06:45.21 | Neuro_Medivh | I think you meant seebs |
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| 06:45.26 | Zootfizzle | Oh |
| 06:45.27 | Zootfizzle | Seebs |
| 06:45.28 | duaiwe | bah |
| 06:45.31 | Zootfizzle | Sorry :P |
| 06:45.42 | Zootfizzle | Somebody ate my brains today. |
| 06:45.49 | Neuro_Medivh | that's been going around |
| 06:46.03 | kd3 | wtb razing of cities |
| 06:46.11 | Neuro_Medivh | next week, kd3 |
| 06:46.20 | seebs | The underlying issue is that Blizzard's software isn't inherently case-insensitive, it's just whatever the underlying file is. |
| 06:46.40 | seebs | So if you name a directory "libs" and have a toc file ask for Libs\foo.xml, the Blizzard code won't find the file on a case-sensitive system. |
| 06:46.45 | Zootfizzle | We index the contents of the directories though |
| 06:47.00 | kd3 | weird, I don't ever recall running in to that |
| 06:47.01 | Corrodias | seebs: shouldn't WINE handle that issue itself? |
| 06:47.09 | Neuro_Medivh | Zoot, I bet you guys hate VISTA =) |
| 06:47.10 | kd3 | wine should handle that anyway, though |
| 06:47.10 | seebs | IMHO, no. |
| 06:47.23 | Corrodias | was that an answer to me? |
| 06:47.28 | seebs | Windows does not guarantee case-insensitivity any more than MacOS does. It's just common filesystems that tend to be that way. |
| 06:47.44 | Corrodias | windows indeed does not gaurantee it; you can turn it off in the registry |
| 06:47.44 | seebs | You'll note that the actual Blizzard code is, so far as I know, very careful to always have case match correctly... |
| 06:47.50 | Corrodias | i've never heard of anyone DOING that |
| 06:48.02 | seebs | So I don't think WINE should "handle" it; I think code should not be written to assume case-insensitive filesystems. |
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| 06:48.17 | kd3 | you'd think that, but devs are lazy |
| 06:48.17 | Corrodias | well, you work with what you get, seebs |
| 06:48.24 | seebs | Yup. |
| 06:48.32 | seebs | So I have a scriptlet that fixes the spelling in my addons. ;) |
| 06:48.32 | kd3 | and wine does in fact do a case-insensitive match when programs ask for files/folders |
| 06:48.39 | Corrodias | if you'd rather sit in the dark because you don't like the kind of light bulb you get, that's okay for you, but other people will comprimise |
| 06:48.51 | seebs | Hmm. Apparently not all the time; I've had problems go away when I fixed the spelling errors. |
| 06:48.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 06:49.12 | seebs | So I just fix 'em and report 'em as bugs, and don't worry about it. |
| 06:49.29 | seebs | I tend to be an edge condition for a lot of stuff. I was one of the first people to report the "symlinks broken on OS X" bug. :) |
| 06:49.36 | Neuro_Medivh | I have thankfully avoided Linux nearly all my life |
| 06:50.00 | NightHawkTheSane | thats kind of an absurd thing to say |
| 06:50.03 | seebs | I'm not a huge fan, honestly, but I switched my WoW to it so I could have full-screen and swap between WoW and my addon editing windows without a monitor resync delay. |
| 06:50.05 | Corrodias | i never thought much about case-sensitivity in filenames until now, but hopefully i will remember it if i ever develop anything |
| 06:50.16 | Neuro_Medivh | who, NightHawkTheSane, me? |
| 06:50.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: yes. |
| 06:50.24 | Neuro_Medivh | Why so? |
| 06:50.24 | seebs | For some reason, I could never get that to work under Windows, but it worked out of the box on Linux. |
| 06:50.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: really, if you just assume everything is case sensetive unless explicitly said otherwise, you're typically fine :p |
| 06:50.38 | seebs | When I discovered that my frame rates were better, well, I stopped bothering to load Windows on my new gaming machines. :) |
| 06:51.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: it seems absurd to be thankful for avoiding something for no real good reason. I mean, you can prefer not to use it all you want, but it's good to learn about it. |
| 06:51.54 | NightHawkTheSane | seebs: thats why i play windowed on my mac, makes it -real- easy to tab out :p |
| 06:52.14 | seebs | I don't like windowed mode. :( I'm just finicky all over, really. |
| 06:52.29 | Neuro_Medivh | I am thankful that I have yet to be forced to use Linux for anything. I'm also thankful that I haven't been forced to buy a new computer yet, since i don't have the money |
| 06:52.38 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, im not trying to say windowed is better, just saying ;) |
| 06:52.49 | seebs | Actually, I'm pretty amazed at how well Blizzard's done with this game. I'm a seriously picky player, and I've been loving the game for nearly three years now. |
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| 06:53.08 | anarchyPenguin | Anyone familiar with DKP installations? |
| 06:53.12 | anarchyPenguin | EQDKP* |
| 06:53.13 | Corrodias | i was pleased with their windowed mode code, until they broke the size calculation |
| 06:53.26 | Neuro_Medivh | anarchyPenguin: Is that an addon? |
| 06:53.26 | seebs | AP: Not I. |
| 06:53.47 | Corrodias | as of the time i quit, launching in a window of the same width as my desktop would shrink the window so the borders fit on the screen. it didn't do that a couple of years ago, i tell you wut. |
| 06:53.52 | anarchyPenguin | No, it's raid stats for webpages, I didn't know where else to go |
| 06:53.57 | seebs | One of the triggers for this reload was that I started being unable to get my mouse onto the bottom of the screen EXCEPT in Windowed mode, and I thought "hey, it's been long enough and I'm getting a new card, I'll reload." |
| 06:56.00 | Corrodias | well that's a strange issue |
| 06:57.29 | seebs | Yeah. And it probably had nothing to do with anything, but I had a bunch of reasons to reload, and I'm gonna be effectively offline for some days anyway, so... :) |
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| 07:29.09 | Drakhaon | is there any good way to check if I change target, except using the update function and check with a previous value? |
| 07:30.25 | Drakhaon | nvm, found one |
| 07:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet there's an event you can listen for. |
| 07:31.35 | Drakhaon | yea : PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
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| 07:45.52 | Sargeras | Dolby changed my avatar on eqgov to David Hasselhoff =( |
| 07:46.03 | Sargeras | wearing something not so nice |
| 07:46.12 | Cairenn | hahahhaa |
| 07:46.16 | Cairenn | I know what image |
| 07:47.27 | Sargeras | its gone noew |
| 07:47.35 | Sargeras | so dont know where to find it |
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| 07:49.10 | krka | did you hassle the hoff? |
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| 07:58.10 | Elkano | Cairenn, is there an easy way to sync a project from the new wowace/curse to wowi? |
| 07:58.48 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7633-WoWIModUploader.html |
| 07:58.57 | Cairenn | for now, until we get git in place |
| 08:00.35 | Neuro_Medivh | what's the best Warlock spec for 3.0, for pvp? Affliction? |
| 08:01.01 | Elkano | so no way to just grab a prepacked zip from wowace/curse? well, I'll stick to doing it manually then ^^ |
| 08:02.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: you could probably write a script to do it >.> might be messy though |
| 08:04.36 | Cairenn | that's what I linked :p |
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| 08:06.20 | NightHawkTheSane | well, im not sure how intelligently that would be able to grab the prepackaged stuff from wowace. |
| 08:06.30 | NightHawkTheSane | but i really dont know so i'll shut up :) |
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| 08:20.45 | Drakhaon | is there anyway to find out what items are worth at a vendor when I have the merchant frame open? |
| 08:21.07 | Drakhaon | I have an auto-sell trash items function and want to be able to show how much I profit from each time |
| 08:21.34 | Drakhaon | tho using GetMoney() before and after that function wont work due to a small delay in the actual sell (lag towards server?) |
| 08:22.29 | cladhaire | events |
| 08:22.37 | cladhaire | you have to wait for the actual events to come across |
| 08:22.40 | cladhaire | and THEN call the API |
| 08:22.47 | cladhaire | the entire API is event drive, so this is common :P |
| 08:23.38 | Drakhaon | checking money prior to the sale isnt hard, merchant open |
| 08:24.05 | Drakhaon | you mean I should save the last item sold and then wait for the event of that item being sold? |
| 08:26.10 | AnduinLothar | rofl "Innkeeper Saelienne says: I may have ninety-nine problems, but dancin' ain't one of them! Happy Hallow's End, Anduinlothar!" |
| 08:27.49 | Spiradin | does anyone know a new site to find the files that could be regularly found at files.wowace.com now that it's Resting in peace |
| 08:28.32 | AnduinLothar | they're all mirrored on curse |
| 08:29.07 | Spiradin | nice |
| 08:29.10 | Spiradin | I think i discovered the mod Violation there |
| 08:29.19 | Spiradin | hoping for an updated version |
| 08:29.25 | Spiradin | nice damage meter mod |
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| 08:29.58 | Spiradin | Does wowinterface.com host some of those files now as well? |
| 08:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | only if the author specifically chooses to upload to wowi |
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| 09:06.03 | Drakhaon | |r resets the textcolor to whatever Ive specified in the RGB settings of the AddMessage function right? |
| 09:08.13 | Xinhuan | i think it resets to whatever SetTextColor() did |
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| 09:10.09 | Drakhaon | its for DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage use |
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| 09:26.44 | Neuro_Medivh | lol@ todays xkcd |
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| 10:09.39 | Redguard | Drakhaon: yes, it will |
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| 10:34.14 | qz | is there any function to pause script execution for a number of milliseconds/seconds? |
| 10:39.28 | Corrodias | as i recall, there isn't anything |
| 10:39.43 | Corrodias | you can make the entire UI freeze for a moment by having it do some pointless processing |
| 10:39.55 | Corrodias | but that would probably irritate the user |
| 10:44.49 | Wobin | http://www.xylocopa.com/product/mad-science-alphabet-blocks <-- for anyone who wants to raise their baby -right- |
| 10:45.10 | Wobin | Antiarc: --^ |
| 10:45.31 | Punkie | they are pretty damn cool |
| 10:56.04 | Redguard | qz macro or addon |
| 10:56.24 | qz | Redguard, addon |
| 11:00.54 | nevcairiel | No, you cannot pause execution |
| 11:01.16 | nevcairiel | you can use an OnUpdate handler to set a timer to execute after a given time, though |
| 11:01.30 | Industrial | split it into lines? :P |
| 11:02.03 | Industrial | then execute them one by one. dont knwo if that will work |
| 11:04.39 | Wobin | .... Sascha Fierce? |
| 11:04.58 | Wobin | s/ch/h/ |
| 11:06.13 | Redguard | nevcairiel a callback is a form of pause |
| 11:06.42 | Redguard | qz you can easily make a self timer and evaluate a function or parameters once the timer is met |
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| 11:10.11 | Wobin | ahaha http://www.candy-dates.com/ |
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| 11:12.37 | Wobin | aw, Wise Man's Fear is postponed til Fall 09 |
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| 12:02.17 | Industrial | Anyone know how to remove the spellcast fail sound? I had it last patch but it got removed with the 3.0 update and im getting REALLY anoyed by it. it was something in the data folder |
| 12:04.20 | Pneumatus | unticking "Error Speech" in sound & voice? |
| 12:05.13 | Industrial | no, not error speech |
| 12:05.17 | Industrial | the spellcast fail sound |
| 12:05.32 | Industrial | the anoying shit you hear when you spam a button |
| 12:05.51 | Kaso | the "thud/clunck" sound |
| 12:06.01 | Pneumatus | ah, dunno then, but i have error speech disabled and i dont get either |
| 12:06.19 | Industrial | you must be getting it :p |
| 12:06.24 | Industrial | spam a heal or a trinket you already used. |
| 12:06.32 | Pneumatus | i do, all the time :P |
| 12:06.45 | Pneumatus | so it could be a cvar |
| 12:06.48 | Industrial | then you hacked it :O take a look in wow/Data ? |
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| 12:08.10 | Pneumatus | hmm, no cvars aside from error speech that would be related either |
| 12:08.48 | Industrial | could you take a look in your wow data folder? if theres any sound folder etc |
| 12:08.54 | Pneumatus | no, there isnt |
| 12:09.21 | Industrial | hm |
| 12:09.47 | Pneumatus | i know i used to have a cvar set in my macros to switch it off |
| 12:09.48 | Redguard | Sound_EnableSFX 0 might do it |
| 12:09.56 | Pneumatus | probably SFX |
| 12:09.59 | Pneumatus | ^^ that one |
| 12:10.19 | Industrial | I want all other sounds tho |
| 12:10.51 | Pneumatus | /console Sound_EnableSFX 0 ... /console Sound_EnableSFX 1 in your macro? |
| 12:11.57 | Industrial | ill try that |
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| 12:24.09 | kylapup | Is it possible to set the strata of a FontString itself? |
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| 12:41.03 | Mundyz | anyone know a very lean mod that simply lets you show more than one item/quest/ach link at once? |
| 12:41.07 | Mundyz | multitips hasnt been updated |
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| 12:44.52 | nevcairiel | does anyone know which event fires if i change my glyphs? |
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| 12:50.58 | Redguard | morning Lopeppeppy |
| 12:51.47 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Redguard|zz. Or rather, goodnight. :) |
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| 12:57.36 | Elkano | nevcairiel, something along GLYPH_ADDED, GLYPH_REMOVED, GLYPH_UPDATED most likely |
| 12:57.54 | nevcairiel | glyphs update? |
| 12:58.30 | Elkano | well, that are the three events from GlyphUI |
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| 12:59.09 | nevcairiel | i got the first 2 from removing and setting a glyph |
| 12:59.15 | nevcairiel | oh well listening for the third too |
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| 13:09.25 | Pheredhel | Dolby : ping |
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| 13:15.07 | alestane | Sweet, cleared the infinite recursion out of Expose' |
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| 13:16.21 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds like a very good plan. |
| 13:17.24 | alestane | You have no idea what I just said, do you. |
| 13:18.02 | p3lim | ~seen seerah |
| 13:18.07 | purl | seerah <n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-39-61.mem.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 15m 24s ago, saying: 'but perhaps you could talk to Nemes about it :)'. |
| 13:18.12 | Lopeppeppy | I have the basic idea, I'm also gently poking with my dino-tail. |
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| 13:35.34 | Lopeppeppy | Ouchies? Doesn't that hurt the shoulders? |
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| 13:38.43 | Shirik | it is so cold :( |
| 13:40.23 | p3lim | http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Interface_customization is dead :< |
| 13:40.34 | p3lim | they moved it but i dont really know how to make a new link now |
| 13:41.27 | Lopeppeppy | I am sooooo cold. |
| 13:42.01 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. It's about 38 outside, and was only 55 in my apartment when I woke up. Brrrr. |
| 13:42.26 | Shirik | you could come down here |
| 13:43.01 | Lopeppeppy | It's a long walk, dear. Besides, you have too many alligators. |
| 13:43.11 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 13:43.33 | Shirik | but I'm still cold :( |
| 13:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | Brat. *hug* |
| 13:47.27 | Shirik | :( |
| 13:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | AFK for sheeple mass-herding. See ya in a bit. |
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| 13:59.31 | p3lim | ckknight|away: ping, reply to me when you get back please |
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| 14:02.15 | Wobin | ... |
| 14:02.20 | Wobin | Why did no one tell me about http://www.portalprelude.com/ ? |
| 14:02.21 | Shirik | ... |
| 14:02.31 | Wobin | I feel betrayed =( |
| 14:05.39 | Cide | it's not very fun |
| 14:05.43 | Cide | and it's not official either |
| 14:06.19 | Wobin | well I gathered the latter |
| 14:06.25 | Wobin | but the former is true? |
| 14:06.33 | Cide | in my opinion |
| 14:06.36 | Cide | it's very well done |
| 14:06.41 | Wobin | lacking the humour? |
| 14:06.51 | Cide | and you do get a nice sense of accomplishment when you finish a level |
| 14:07.08 | Wobin | of course, lacking glados is already a huge barrier |
| 14:07.14 | Cide | that too, but the biggest lack for me was the lack of "puzzle" levels |
| 14:07.28 | Cide | it was obvious what to do as soon as you got into the room most of the time |
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| 14:07.55 | Wobin | nothing like the final few test rooms in the original? |
| 14:08.23 | malreth | ah, finally got the hallowed helm |
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| 14:18.52 | malreth | time for class |
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| 14:28.38 | Daedals | hi, could someone tell me what could be the reasons for a texture being only a green box? |
| 14:29.04 | Daedals | It is the correct type (.blp) the size should be correct too |
| 14:29.11 | alestane | Generally that means the game didn't find your file. |
| 14:29.34 | alestane | There's usually some kind of mismatch between the file's actual location and the path you gave it. |
| 14:29.54 | Daedals | it's weird because another file in the same folder is loaded correctly |
| 14:30.00 | alestane | If you're giving the path in Lua, check that you've escaped any \s correctly. |
| 14:30.22 | Daedals | yes, I'm usin double /'s |
| 14:30.27 | Daedals | \s * |
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| 14:31.08 | Daedals | it could be also if there has been a fault during the file conversion I think :P |
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| 14:31.43 | Daedals | im using a png -> blp converter |
| 14:31.46 | Daedals | hmm |
| 14:32.01 | Daedals | how do I make .tga file transparent? |
| 14:33.25 | Daedals | 2048 x 512 should be correct file size or? |
| 14:33.58 | alestane | .tga files support an alpha channel. |
| 14:34.17 | Daedals | good |
| 14:34.17 | alestane | I don't believe WoW supports files over 512 pixels in a dimension, though. |
| 14:34.28 | Gnarfoz | it supports up to 2048x2048, IIRC |
| 14:34.42 | nevcairiel | i thought it was uped to 1024 in 3.0 |
| 14:34.45 | nevcairiel | but not 2048 |
| 14:35.05 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 14:35.10 | Gnarfoz | wowwiki says 512x512 |
| 14:35.16 | Gnarfoz | but wowwiki is seldom up to date |
| 14:35.25 | nevcairiel | that wowwiki doesnt have 3.0 data is not surprising :D |
| 14:35.35 | Daedals | so that might be the reason |
| 14:35.37 | Gnarfoz | they do, but not there |
| 14:35.51 | nevcairiel | I didnt find info on the Glyph API either earlier |
| 14:35.54 | Daedals | I try to slice my images to 512x512 and see what happens |
| 14:36.00 | Daedals | image* |
| 14:36.00 | alestane | The fullscreen and other large window textures, like the auction house or the world map, are all sliced into pieces no larger than 512. |
| 14:36.14 | nevcairiel | the loading screens are 1024 now |
| 14:36.18 | nevcairiel | the new ones, anyway |
| 14:36.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 14:36.30 | Gnarfoz | they're not going to go around and update all old textures, though |
| 14:36.31 | Daedals | so 1024 might be enough? |
| 14:36.40 | alestane | You can try it. |
| 14:36.58 | nevcairiel | also, someone approve my wowi uploads .) |
| 14:38.00 | krka | 640 pixels should be enough for anyone |
| 14:39.05 | Gnarfoz | I see what you did there... |
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| 14:39.54 | Daedals | btw, does it matter if the tga is 16, 24 or 32 bits? |
| 14:40.47 | p3lim | are there infinite frame levels? |
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| 14:42.33 | alestane | There's never infinite anything on a computer. |
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| 14:42.41 | Xinhuan | lua> 1/0 |
| 14:42.42 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: inf |
| 14:42.46 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 14:42.58 | nevcairiel | Shirik: approve my files, kthx! :D |
| 14:43.00 | alestane | And all that means is "out of bounds. |
| 14:43.05 | Daedals | woot it works as 1024x512 ! |
| 14:43.12 | Daedals | but its white -.- |
| 14:43.13 | alestane | Then there you go. |
| 14:43.19 | alestane | Hrm. |
| 14:43.30 | Xinhuan | yeah i believe the lower limit is also 8x8? |
| 14:43.31 | Daedals | I think my photoshop doesnt understand the alpha channel of a tga |
| 14:43.36 | Xinhuan | and not 16x16 |
| 14:43.45 | Xinhuan | try Gimp, Daedals |
| 14:43.51 | alestane | Daedals: Make sure you save it as 32-bit and not 24-bit. |
| 14:43.54 | nevcairiel | Daedals: did you safe it as 32-bit tga? |
| 14:43.54 | Shirik | it never ends, nevcairiel |
| 14:43.56 | Shirik | you're just using me |
| 14:44.02 | Daedals | aaaa |
| 14:44.06 | Daedals | I did 24-bit :P |
| 14:44.11 | nevcairiel | yeah that doesnt work |
| 14:44.14 | Daedals | sooo lets tyr again |
| 14:44.17 | Daedals | try |
| 14:44.19 | alestane | Then it ditched your alpha channel. |
| 14:45.53 | Daedals | hmh its still white :P |
| 14:46.29 | Daedals | well I'll do it the safe way |
| 14:46.36 | Daedals | save as png and comvert to blp |
| 14:46.41 | Shirik | nevcairiel! |
| 14:46.44 | Shirik | You have 2! |
| 14:46.48 | Shirik | Give me twice the work :( |
| 14:46.49 | Daedals | hmh I'm typoing too much today |
| 14:46.52 | nevcairiel | thats why i said "files" |
| 14:47.15 | nevcairiel | but yeah, i finally got around to fixing some stuff again |
| 14:48.06 | Shirik | nevcairiel: done |
| 14:48.11 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 14:49.27 | Daedals | WOHOO |
| 14:49.30 | Daedals | it works :D |
| 14:50.14 | Shirik | Funkeh`: you have some strange patterns |
| 14:50.31 | Funkeh` | Shirik, IT'S A VIRUS |
| 14:50.44 | Shirik | reading badboy's triggers, you have this? |
| 14:50.46 | Shirik | "^$", |
| 14:50.49 | Funkeh` | Shirik, did you get my irc pm the other day |
| 14:50.50 | Shirik | that seems strange to me |
| 14:50.55 | Shirik | probably not, power went out last night |
| 14:51.00 | Funkeh` | damn |
| 14:51.06 | Funkeh` | was bitching about your updater |
| 14:51.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:51.24 | Funkeh` | that patern is for whitespace |
| 14:51.24 | Shirik | Then I probably would have ignored it anyway |
| 14:51.31 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 14:51.34 | Funkeh` | :< |
| 14:51.54 | Xinhuan | why even convert it to BLP? |
| 14:51.57 | Xinhuan | i don't understand |
| 14:52.01 | Shirik | People keep filing bug reports despite the fact that I've said the program is end-of-life, a new version is being made, and that program is horribly broken |
| 14:52.01 | Xinhuan | tga works as it is |
| 14:52.13 | Shirik | but what did you need Funkeh`? |
| 14:52.15 | Funkeh` | Shirik, eta? |
| 14:52.16 | Shirik | It may be a simple thing |
| 14:52.32 | Shirik | soon |
| 14:52.33 | Funkeh` | Shirik, I just find the storage of zips in the addons annoyingly stupid |
| 14:52.34 | Shirik | (tm) |
| 14:52.40 | Shirik | oh yes |
| 14:52.42 | Shirik | that was stupid |
| 14:52.51 | Shirik | your temp folder will be used in the future |
| 14:52.56 | Funkeh` | good |
| 14:53.05 | Industrial | woot elemental shaman dps owns |
| 14:53.08 | Shirik | there are a lot of things done stupid |
| 14:53.11 | Industrial | i was outdpsing pallies in kara |
| 14:53.11 | Shirik | both externally and internally |
| 14:53.17 | Shirik | that's why it needs to be rewritten |
| 14:53.22 | Funkeh` | it's good i don't need to make a list then |
| 14:54.08 | Funkeh` | anyway yeah, some spammers like to blankline between their spam, which looks wierd if you've filtered spam and all you see is a blank line followed by a report |
| 14:55.48 | Shirik | that seems odd |
| 14:55.51 | Shirik | why they do that :/ |
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| 14:57.08 | Funkeh` | same reason they use ascii art sometimes |
| 14:57.11 | Funkeh` | prettyness |
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| 14:57.14 | Funkeh` | get your attention |
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| 15:04.46 | Shirik | I also liked |
| 15:05.04 | Shirik | aww I closed it |
| 15:05.09 | Shirik | but it was like ooooOO OOoooo |
| 15:07.25 | Seerah | TabMix+ ftw (undo closed tab) |
| 15:07.27 | Mikk | And yes, don't convert to blp unless you're doing cursors |
| 15:07.34 | Mikk | Just leave it as .tga |
| 15:07.38 | Mikk | And for god's sake, use GIMP |
| 15:07.44 | Seerah | I think .png works in 3.0! |
| 15:08.01 | Mikk | Ehm? |
| 15:08.32 | Seerah | someone said that .png worked. I tried it - it did, iirc. |
| 15:08.44 | Seerah | (on beta at least) |
| 15:09.38 | Mikk | How the heck are you guys getting forum avatars to work? |
| 15:10.13 | Daedals | look: http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr171/DaedalWoW/f0060710.jpg |
| 15:10.29 | Daedals | I got it working with photoshop and png to blp conversion |
| 15:10.31 | Seerah | Mikk: on which site? |
| 15:11.01 | Shirik | I still don't have an avatar :( |
| 15:11.08 | Mikk | wowace |
| 15:11.15 | Mikk | sorry, thought i was posting in #wowce |
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| 15:11.45 | Shirik | Mikk wins |
| 15:12.59 | Seerah | Forums -> Quick Links -> Edit your details -> Edit Avatar (on left) |
| 15:13.04 | Seerah | Mikk ^^^ |
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| 15:14.02 | Mikk | What the heck |
| 15:14.06 | Mikk | I _have_ done that |
| 15:14.08 | Mikk | But now it's gone |
| 15:14.39 | Seerah | gone as in nonexistent? |
| 15:15.05 | Seerah | when does it get "gone"? When you submit an avatar change or was it later? |
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| 15:16.15 | Mikk | Well... I had one uploaded, and was thinking "bloody weird that it isn't showing in the posts even though it's showing here in the avatar editor" |
| 15:16.26 | Mikk | When I went to look at it now, the avatar editor slot was blank |
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| 15:16.40 | Mikk | Chucked up a new one, let's see if it like me this time around ... |
| 15:17.27 | Mikk | Oohh look there's an angry gnome next to my posts now! \o/ |
| 15:18.04 | Seerah | were you setting it through your author profile instead of hte forum profile? |
| 15:19.08 | Mikk | .... yes >.< |
| 15:19.20 | Mikk | "Edit Profile Picture"... but still in the forums |
| 15:19.26 | Mikk | Sigh |
| 15:19.44 | Seerah | I is confused... You said yes but said it was in the forums :P |
| 15:19.59 | Mikk | The forum software has two places where you can upload pictures |
| 15:20.04 | Mikk | "Edit Profile Picture" and "Edit Avatar" |
| 15:20.11 | Seerah | oh |
| 15:20.20 | Mikk | I didn't even see "Edit Avatar" when I went looking last time |
| 15:20.33 | Shirik | Hey guys I have a strange question for you |
| 15:20.34 | Seerah | I see it now... that's d-u-m dumb |
| 15:20.40 | Seerah | ? |
| 15:20.41 | Shirik | I don't think what I want is possible, but I'll pose the question anyway |
| 15:20.58 | Mikk | No, you really cannot punch people through TCP/IP, shirik |
| 15:21.12 | Seerah | you're safe then, Mikk ;) |
| 15:21.13 | Shirik | I want the ability for my program to make a connection to a server and somehow identify itself as that program. I don't want any unauthorized programs to be able to make the same connection |
| 15:21.41 | Mikk | That's only possible until someone reverse engineers your software |
| 15:21.45 | nevcairiel | encrypted connection and some auth string? |
| 15:21.52 | Shirik | reverse engineering wouldn't even be necessary since it's open source |
| 15:21.52 | Seerah | I is no programmer, but would the proper term be signature? |
| 15:21.58 | nevcairiel | its never 100% safe |
| 15:22.04 | Mikk | You could go all the way to public key auth and shizzle |
| 15:22.09 | Shirik | I was thinking of signatures, however problem is to do that, I'd need to ship the private key with the program |
| 15:22.14 | Mikk | But the private key would have to be stored inside the app |
| 15:22.16 | Shirik | which means nothing |
| 15:22.24 | Shirik | because then someone just pulls that out and done |
| 15:22.25 | Mikk | So yeah you're screwed |
| 15:22.51 | Mikk | Amazing, it took you how long to realize this? |
| 15:22.51 | Shirik | best I could do is somehow store it encrypted, etc. |
| 15:22.59 | Shirik | No, I knew this already |
| 15:23.06 | Shirik | I've been trying to prove myself wrong for about a week now |
| 15:23.13 | Shirik | unfortunately I have yet to do that |
| 15:23.15 | Mikk | Yeah, the movie/music guys are still trying |
| 15:23.31 | Mikk | (which was my point) |
| 15:23.46 | Mikk | "IT IS TEH SECUREZ!!!! ... OHNOES SOMEONE GOT HOLD OF OUR KEY/ALGO/SHIZZLE" |
| 15:23.59 | Seerah | shizzle :) |
| 15:25.13 | Mikk | Shirik: You'd need another layer of authentication, tied to individual users. |
| 15:25.29 | Mikk | But even then one of your registered users could use something else to connect |
| 15:25.38 | Mikk | What exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:25.54 | Shirik | Make an update protocol that WoWMatrix can't use :) |
| 15:26.32 | krka | you could put the key inside a dongle or something |
| 15:26.43 | Mikk | That would mean shipping the dongle to every wow user in the world |
| 15:26.46 | krka | yes |
| 15:26.52 | Shirik | uh |
| 15:27.05 | Lukian | simple, require a user account for downloads |
| 15:27.23 | Mikk | Said account could still be input into wowmatrix' software |
| 15:27.27 | krka | what is wowmatrix and why dont you like it? |
| 15:27.33 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:27.50 | Shirik | methinks krka is behind the times |
| 15:27.53 | Lukian | Mikk, still that would be additional coding for them and you can make random other changes to make it difficult :p |
| 15:27.58 | krka | that is a safe assumption yes |
| 15:28.07 | Seerah | wowmatrix is the devil |
| 15:28.21 | krka | i'd go the legal route instead |
| 15:28.26 | krka | don't GPL your addon |
| 15:28.35 | Mikk | krka: Wowmatrix doesnt give a shit |
| 15:28.36 | krka | only allow distribution from specific sites |
| 15:28.45 | krka | sue them! |
| 15:28.49 | krka | or call the police on them |
| 15:28.54 | Shirik | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18358&highlight=wowmatrix |
| 15:29.06 | krka | copyright infringement does apply |
| 15:29.10 | Mikk | WoWMatrix is an application that shows their ads, and then downloads from addon sites, stealing their bandwidth |
| 15:29.18 | Mikk | It most certainly does |
| 15:29.20 | Mikk | They still don't give a shit |
| 15:29.26 | Mikk | They're teh devil |
| 15:29.31 | Kaso | maybe not sue, but a dmca takedown notice are pretty powerful nowadays with their "remove first think later" tatics |
| 15:30.07 | krka | actually... i am not sure what they're doing is illegal, from the description |
| 15:30.29 | Mikk | They are enabling distribution of unlicensed products. This is a copyright violation. Clearcut. |
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| 15:30.42 | Mikk | Then there's the issue of bandwidth theft... that's still more of a greyzone since the law hasn't caught up. |
| 15:31.05 | krka | the user apparently does all the downloading themselves |
| 15:31.22 | krka | the addon just performs a download on the user's behalf |
| 15:31.28 | krka | basically it acts as a browser |
| 15:31.46 | Mikk | Copyright law doesn't give a shit about that extension :Ã
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| 15:31.46 | Lukian | a browser connected to someone's else's internet connection :p |
| 15:31.53 | Seerah | krka: this has been run into the ground for a year now |
| 15:32.06 | Shirik | krka: The WoWMatrix application caused a loss of revenue due to the time and effort spent in keeping the site alive during 3.0. It can be shown that WoWMatrix severely contributed to what amounted to a DDoS attack on WoWI (and the ISP even shut us down for a small period of time thinking it WAS) |
| 15:32.13 | Shirik | That would be my argument in court |
| 15:32.23 | Seerah | yes, that is true |
| 15:32.30 | Seerah | wowmatrix caused wowi to be shut down |
| 15:32.30 | Shirik | In the US, there does not need to be a law to directly reference |
| 15:32.46 | Seerah | the very thing it was leeching from |
| 15:32.46 | Shirik | It sure as hell helps, though |
| 15:33.38 | Seerah | that's another one of the arguments. By being a parasite and leeching bandwidth while not showing the sites ads or bringing people to the site for any of the other features the site provides, the addon sites it depends on could eventually be forced to shut down |
| 15:33.41 | Mikk | I wish you were both in sweden. Then you could go to court and apply some Common Sense. And win.i |
| 15:34.03 | Shirik | problem is WoWMatrix does not reside in the US |
| 15:35.15 | Mikk | Someone linked the W3's views on deep linking |
| 15:35.36 | Mikk | Basically saying that, by default, deep linking is ok. But if someone installs access controls (referrer checking) disallow it, it is not. |
| 15:35.51 | Shirik | but yeah, krka, this has been run into the ground over and over again |
| 15:35.59 | Shirik | regardless of whether or not it's illegal, it's certainly immoral |
| 15:36.06 | Shirik | And I don't want them to be able to use what I create |
| 15:36.09 | krka | no argument on the ethics |
| 15:36.26 | krka | make an installation guide on the wowi description page |
| 15:36.32 | krka | with a secret key |
| 15:36.50 | Mikk | That kinda fubar's wowi's own updater neh |
| 15:37.05 | Shirik | Well this would be the new updater |
| 15:37.28 | Shirik | It may be arguable that I could encrypt the private key to the point where it would be too time-consuming for them to pull it out |
| 15:38.06 | Lopeppeppy | They have many monkeys, they would do it for spite. |
| 15:38.18 | Lukian | send a 'key' from the server and have the client encrypt it (several times?) and then send it back to the server? ^_^ |
| 15:38.22 | krka | let the key be some hash of the username |
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| 15:38.36 | krka | and make a javascript on the site to generate it |
| 15:38.51 | Mikk | Ooohhhh, that would be annoying |
| 15:39.20 | Mikk | It assumes that people need to be logged in though |
| 15:39.38 | Lukian | can't you just ban the IP's wowmatrix uses to fetch it's addon listings? |
| 15:40.07 | Lukian | or does it do that via the enduser? :/ |
| 15:40.09 | krka | unless their client fetches it and uploads :) |
| 15:40.24 | Kaso | does it use a identifable user-agent? i presume not? |
| 15:40.42 | Lukian | I heard it uses no user agent |
| 15:40.55 | Lukian | ie. it could be blocked, but they'd change it pretty quick |
| 15:41.22 | Seerah | IPs are the users', yes, Lukian |
| 15:41.42 | Lukian | nasty :/ that's a lot of bandwidth per user |
| 15:42.08 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Who's to say I don't just change the key |
| 15:42.12 | Shirik | I think that's the best part |
| 15:42.21 | Shirik | if WoWMatrix figures it out I can always update to a new key |
| 15:42.54 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/yeaaahhh.jpg |
| 15:43.00 | Shirik | AND THEN |
| 15:43.06 | Shirik | If they use the DLL that I would need to generate to do this |
| 15:43.08 | Lukian | have the client generate a new key regularly XD |
| 15:43.09 | Lopeppeppy | How do you find out when they figure it out? |
| 15:43.32 | Seerah | users would be forced to update then. or would it notify of new releases and update itself (with user input, of course)? |
| 15:43.32 | Lukian | let's see them reverse engineering some heavy hashing/enc algos :D |
| 15:43.33 | Shirik | Then I've got them for IP violations |
| 15:43.51 | Shirik | Because I could just license that DLL as not open souce and not redistributable |
| 15:44.01 | Shirik | Seerah: It automatically updates itself |
| 15:44.11 | Shirik | (with user confirmation) |
| 15:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | So complex to defeat the Matrix monkeys. |
| 15:44.52 | Seerah | I would put a comment in there with it saying "this isn't open source - expect to be sued if you steal it" |
| 15:45.01 | Seerah | and mention wowmatrix by name ;) |
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| 15:45.46 | ReAn | http://rean1985.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/aw-snap/ <--- i <3 google |
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| 15:48.48 | Shirik | !! I got it! |
| 15:49.24 | Seerah | ? |
| 15:50.00 | Shirik | I can sign the application with my own private key, and ensure the DLL only works if that application is signed with the specified signature. I'll encrypt the DLL and create a script to regenerate it every day. This DLL will have the private key to use to connect to the update server. |
| 15:50.06 | Shirik | No way they can be fast enough to handle that |
| 15:51.04 | Shirik | It's really sad that we have to go through all this to stop something like WoWMatrix |
| 15:51.30 | Mikk | Oh, updating binaries from a server is something I considered right away, but it isn't exactly open source |
| 15:51.43 | Shirik | it isn't |
| 15:51.50 | Mikk | I thought that was requirement :> |
| 15:51.51 | Shirik | unfortunately I don't have a better choice |
| 15:51.55 | Shirik | it's also security through obscurity |
| 15:52.02 | Mikk | That it is. |
| 15:52.06 | Shirik | I would prefer it to be, Mikk :/ |
| 15:52.13 | Mikk | How does it stop them just deeplinking to the site directly though? |
| 15:52.24 | Mikk | It's not as if they actually need to use your app apis |
| 15:52.40 | Shirik | I don't intend to stop them from doing that |
| 15:53.00 | Shirik | But at least that is no worse than a browser |
| 15:53.04 | Mikk | Granted, the website could use very funky javascript that gets changed all the time |
| 15:53.15 | Shirik | improper use of the API could result in a very heavy load on the server |
| 15:53.17 | Mikk | But then you require your users to not run noscript |
| 15:53.40 | Mikk | I think you're underestimating the load of hitting web servers |
| 15:53.51 | Mikk | They tend to be pretty .... resource heavy |
| 15:54.28 | Shirik | It can't be as bad as "query the database for all addons, generate a list, download that list" over and over again |
| 15:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | How many users during crunch of 3.0? 40K? |
| 15:55.02 | Shirik | visibly 40k |
| 15:55.17 | Shirik | Mikk, I've seen the load from wowmatrix. While it's a lot, it's managable |
| 15:55.40 | Shirik | We would prefer to get rid of it, however the fact that we're still up right now indicates we can at least deal with it |
| 15:56.23 | Shirik | unfortunately I don't have a better solution for that |
| 15:56.29 | Seerah | ... I'd prefer they diaf :) |
| 15:56.32 | Shirik | I would too |
| 15:56.55 | Shirik | however considering we've tried everything we can think of and they still come, it reaches a point where you have to do damage control instead of prevention |
| 15:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | DIAF!!! |
| 15:57.46 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe we can borrow a cogrenade for the task? |
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| 15:58.59 | Shirik | ~icecream |
| 15:59.00 | purl | icecream is, like, the greatest food in the world, along with a distributed compiler, that distributes not only its compile work, but also the tools as a chrootable tar. |
| 15:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | .... purl is weird |
| 15:59.23 | Shirik | I want ice cream :( |
| 16:00.03 | Seerah | mmmmmm |
| 16:03.17 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, damn it. I has none, kthx. |
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| 16:07.25 | Movix | grr, a few weeks ago i found a fiel with blizzard localization strings and do not remember where |
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| 16:08.44 | Movix | ahhh global strings héhé |
| 16:09.23 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy I will have to bring you both ice cream and tea, now, next time I see you |
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| 16:16.15 | Shirik | :( bored |
| 16:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | :( BORED! |
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| 16:17.53 | Shirik | can someone go find a virus somewhere so I can take it apart please? |
| 16:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Um.... no thanks? |
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| 16:19.11 | Remaxer|PT | Ahhh....does someone here use the Muqq ui? |
| 16:19.42 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I don't, but maybe I stand a chance at answering the question. Do you have a link to the UI download? |
| 16:20.01 | Remaxer|PT | http://nihilum.mousesports.com/forum/user-interface-add-ons/16037-muqqs-user-interface-3-0-wotlk.html |
| 16:20.50 | Remaxer|PT | I wantd to ask if there is some kind of addon that has the option to disable the target_selection sound. |
| 16:21.03 | Remaxer|PT | in my Ui it's missing and i want it back |
| 16:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'm going to guess it's some setting in Pitbull? or TinyTip? But I play with sound off, so I'm not even sure what the target_selection sound is. :( |
| 16:23.11 | Remaxer|PT | it's a bump like sound |
| 16:23.33 | Seerah | I *think* the sound is there with default frames, but not with custom frames |
| 16:23.42 | Seerah | did you get it when using default unit frames? |
| 16:23.46 | Lopeppeppy | Was being my guess too, Seerah. |
| 16:26.50 | Remaxer|PT | ok i dsabled pitbull and the sound is back...so it must be it...im gonna chk all options there |
| 16:27.22 | Remaxer|PT | Seerah...i used to have xperl and the sound came also so it must be a pitbull option |
| 16:27.27 | Remaxer|PT | gonna cehck now |
| 16:28.07 | Lopeppeppy | Pitbull has a lot of complex options. Make sure you're in configuration mode to be able to best see them all. |
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| 16:33.09 | Remaxer|PT | :( i checked every option there but non says something about sound |
| 16:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | You can try to catch ckknight on this channel, or post to his comments section on Curse to ask about the sound option. http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pit-bull.aspx |
| 16:34.54 | Remaxer|PT | maybe thats the best idea |
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| 16:35.23 | ckknight | soz |
| 16:35.41 | alestane | Then be a nice people? |
| 16:36.28 | Adys | Ok, is anyone familiar with this problem: Since wotlk, every time I restart the game, the login screen is getting lower and lower fps, until it crashes X as soon as wow starts. |
| 16:36.51 | Adys | if X is restarted, the problem disappears until I restart again |
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| 16:38.15 | kneeki | Dragonmaw Race: Wing Commander Mulveric is teh suck |
| 16:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | Adys, what is X? |
| 16:39.04 | Adys | X.org sorry |
| 16:39.25 | alestane | Is this a "WoW on Linux" issue? |
| 16:40.28 | Adys | maybe |
| 16:40.35 | Adys | i dont know if it happens under windows |
| 16:40.43 | Remaxer|PT | nope doesn't |
| 16:40.49 | Dashkal | Adys: what's the issue? (came in a moment too late) |
| 16:40.51 | Adys | heard a lot of people on windows get troubles with the wotlk login screen |
| 16:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | [12:36] Adys: Ok, is anyone familiar with this problem: Since wotlk, every time I restart the game, the login screen is getting lower and lower fps, until it crashes X as soon as wow starts. |
| 16:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | [12:36] Adys: if X is restarted, the problem disappears until I restart again |
| 16:41.01 | Adys | Dashkal: |
| 16:41.01 | Adys | [19:35:17] <Adys> Ok, is anyone familiar with this problem: Since wotlk, every time I restart the game, the login screen is getting lower and lower fps, until it crashes X as soon as wow starts. [19:35:41] <Adys> if X is restarted, the problem disappears until I restart again |
| 16:41.05 | Dashkal | danke |
| 16:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle* |
| 16:41.09 | Remaxer|PT | i only had FPS probs ingame not at login |
| 16:41.10 | alestane | Ao at least, it hasn't happened to Remaxer|PT. |
| 16:41.11 | Adys | buh :( |
| 16:41.14 | Remaxer|PT | but that was a driver problem |
| 16:41.16 | Remaxer|PT | in my case |
| 16:41.28 | Dashkal | Adys: ahh, yes, I do have that issue. All I can do is power past it. I thought it was my video card (it's ancient) |
| 16:41.41 | Adys | 8600gts latest drivers |
| 16:41.46 | Adys | you're on linux or windows? |
| 16:42.01 | Dashkal | Linux. opengl. did the registry tweaks on the wine website. 800x600 |
| 16:42.09 | Remaxer|PT | windows... |
| 16:42.17 | Adys | Im trying to sort d3d out see if it happens there too |
| 16:42.43 | Dashkal | heh. I use d3d and I get about the same framerate I get on the login screen with this issue |
| 16:44.34 | Dashkal | 6200 LE :p |
| 16:47.20 | Remaxer|PT | i posted my issue with pitbull on curse now..lets see if i get some help lol |
| 16:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, Stephen Hawking is retiring! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081024/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_people_hawking |
| 16:54.19 | Dashkal | phew. only sorta |
| 16:55.08 | Lopeppeppy | Well, retiring from his post. He can't retire from science, Mother Nature will drag him back kicking and screaming. |
| 16:55.09 | mikma | that reminded me, i should watch more futurama |
| 16:56.08 | alestane | "Stay back; I'm going to try SCIENCE." |
| 16:56.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ~/ |
| 16:56.13 | purl | ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix |
| 16:56.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
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| 16:57.44 | alestane | The words which precede history's greatest discoveries, which instantly get any scientist's attention, are not "Eureka!" but rather "...that's funny..." |
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| 16:59.05 | Lopeppeppy | "Hey, I wonder what happens if...." |
| 16:59.06 | Lopeppeppy | and |
| 16:59.14 | Lopeppeppy | "Wouldn't it be funny if...." |
| 16:59.25 | Lopeppeppy | Two things I never like to hear! |
| 16:59.30 | malreth | woo.... zero-day exploit out in the wild now |
| 16:59.34 | malreth | make that three |
| 16:59.39 | ScytheBlade1 | The windows one? |
| 16:59.41 | malreth | yeah |
| 16:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Good thing I'm already patched |
| 17:00.09 | malreth | i've got two more labs to visit today |
| 17:00.24 | malreth | this one... |
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| 17:00.54 | Lopeppeppy | Station |
| 17:01.00 | malreth | play |
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| 17:03.11 | Lopeppeppy | Bad Lunessa! *laugh* |
| 17:03.12 | malreth | tonsils are pretty small |
| 17:03.20 | Lopeppeppy | So are hockey nets? |
| 17:03.24 | Lunessa | You need a big stick to feild them well. :P |
| 17:03.29 | malreth | it'd be hard to see them when they're sliding along the ice |
| 17:03.57 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, do NOT give me an opening like that to deflate your ego. I like you too much to be that mean. |
| 17:04.05 | Lunessa | :P |
| 17:04.18 | malreth | you should be that mean |
| 17:04.32 | malreth | always talk first... then think. that's MY motto |
| 17:04.48 | Lunessa | malreth is that mean. He never missed a shot at the lake-house party. |
| 17:05.18 | Lunessa | Well, except he did let me sleep off the liquor on the patio in the lounger. So, I guess he's not that mean. |
| 17:05.21 | Dashkal | Crap. no +mount speed from 71-79: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/11829523752-devs-update-on-mount-speed-increase.html |
| 17:05.48 | malreth | goooooood riddance |
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| 17:06.04 | Dashkal | ~rmallet malreth |
| 17:06.05 | purl | ACTION beats malreth about the head and shoulders with a rubber mallet |
| 17:06.16 | malreth | i think they should enable encumbrance for the game. the more stuff in your bag, the slower you go |
| 17:06.26 | Dashkal | Definitely going to be blood/unholy then. +20% talent ftw |
| 17:06.26 | malreth | that'll teach those 22-slot bag people |
| 17:06.53 | Dashkal | o.o got something against packrats? |
| 17:07.00 | malreth | yes |
| 17:07.06 | Shirik | I'm a packrat :( |
| 17:07.11 | malreth | they're filthy humans |
| 17:07.14 | malreth | case in point |
| 17:07.25 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik is a filthy night elf I think. |
| 17:07.29 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:07.32 | Dashkal | *shrugs* glad you aren't on the design team then :p more space! more! |
| 17:08.07 | Drayeah | Hmm, does that mean that there is no speed increase like I have now with Riding crop from lvl 71-79 ? |
| 17:08.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 17:09.30 | Dashkal | meh. retroactively nuke the bloddy items if you must... but getting _slower_ when you level 70->71 is BS |
| 17:09.44 | Drayeah | Weird thats a step back in my opinion. |
| 17:09.59 | Lopeppeppy | AFK for more sheepling. |
| 17:10.53 | malreth | crap... for some reason, the patch isn't propagating in this lab correctly |
| 17:12.32 | Dashkal | Mind you I'm still bitter about the change to the druid FF trinket (it's now -mana to flight form). Yeah... while I get they're nuking +speed, that change made the item pretty much useless. |
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| 17:15.52 | Mikk | I have 3 70s with 22 slot bags |
| 17:15.57 | Mikk | Screw you and your encumbrance! :P |
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| 17:18.31 | Shirik | !! |
| 17:18.36 | Shirik | Custom WoW Guild T-Shirts |
| 17:18.44 | Shirik | while I could never do that, that's kinda awesome |
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| 17:21.47 | Shirik | ok, new account management system = fail |
| 17:21.58 | Shirik | I can't log in to it :< |
| 17:22.03 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 17:22.11 | sylvanaar | the bliz one? |
| 17:22.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:22.40 | Syzgyn | Authentication servers are borked? |
| 17:22.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, you have to disable protected mode |
| 17:22.44 | kneeki | I cannot login to the game atm |
| 17:22.44 | sylvanaar | in ie |
| 17:22.55 | kneeki | I'm guessing its the servers |
| 17:23.01 | Shirik | it asks me for authenticator code, I type it in, and then it's all like "wait 20 minutes, kk sorry account name and password is required" |
| 17:23.05 | Shirik | oh kneeki, I guess that makes sense |
| 17:23.08 | Shirik | sylvanaar: I use Fx3 |
| 17:23.57 | sylvanaar | actually, i lied. you dont. anyways, i was logged into it about 5 min ago |
| 17:24.08 | Shirik | :( It's being mean to me |
| 17:24.21 | sylvanaar | boo |
| 17:24.51 | Shirik | now it just says "Login failed" |
| 17:25.07 | Syzgyn | They're aware of it at least. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829573956&pageNo=5&sid=1#85 |
| 17:25.16 | Shirik | now it says "too many attempts" |
| 17:25.37 | Shirik | Yeah except I'm trying to get into account management, Syzgyn :/ but I guess it's the same system |
| 17:26.11 | Syzgyn | Shirik: I know, I was refering to kneeki and I not being able to log in :P |
| 17:26.34 | Dashkal | damn, gonna miss my trick or treat cooldown :( |
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| 17:26.49 | Shirik | how do you miss a cooldown? |
| 17:27.12 | Dashkal | Shirik: depends on how long the auth server is dead. takes em an hour and I miss one entirely |
| 17:27.27 | Shirik | ah |
| 17:27.30 | Shirik | truth |
| 17:31.17 | Dashkal | not long apparently |
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| 17:45.36 | Remaxer|PT | My question hasn't been answeredyet on curse :( |
| 17:46.41 | Dashkal | Remaxer|PT: murr? |
| 17:46.54 | Remaxer|PT | ? |
| 17:47.18 | Dashkal | I'm a curse mod. What's up? |
| 17:47.50 | Remaxer|PT | it's abut the pitbull issue |
| 17:49.29 | Dashkal | ahh. You'll likely have to wait. the author is at work atm |
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| 17:50.21 | Remaxer|PT | kk :) |
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| 17:55.54 | Neuro_Medivh | so any of you EU people reroll on those new servers? |
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| 17:56.33 | Industrial | nop |
| 17:56.43 | Industrial | even though Vashj is dead |
| 17:56.45 | Industrial | im staying there |
| 17:56.45 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:02.30 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ - OWNED |
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| 18:04.33 | Neuro_Medivh | you like Rick Springfield I take it? =) |
| 18:05.07 | Lopeppeppy | I love, love, love that song. |
| 18:05.49 | Lopeppeppy | As well as Outfield, "Lose Your Love" |
| 18:06.17 | Industrial | Question: whats a "scrub"? |
| 18:06.25 | Seerah | now I have it stuck in my head.... "I wish that I had Jesse's girl..." |
| 18:06.42 | Gnarfoz | grrr why does irssi insist on prefixing lines with + and - |
| 18:06.44 | Lopeppeppy | Scrub = not seriously played character. |
| 18:06.54 | Lopeppeppy | If you're talking about WoW characters, Indie. |
| 18:06.58 | Industrial | yes |
| 18:07.00 | Industrial | defind serious |
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| 18:07.03 | Industrial | define* |
| 18:07.06 | Industrial | just casual? |
| 18:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | Serious = your main |
| 18:07.25 | Gnarfoz | mains can be scrubs |
| 18:07.27 | ScytheBlade1 | So what about a Serious Casual? |
| 18:07.30 | Lopeppeppy | Scrub = an alt toon in bad gear, that you just use for farming, you don't play the class to the best of your ability, etc. |
| 18:07.36 | keias | A scrub is anyone with less gear than your current main. |
| 18:07.38 | malreth | you know those people when you're playing street fighter... when you juggle them against the edge of the screen... those people who complain and say you're not being fair... those people are scrubs |
| 18:07.49 | Industrial | < keias> A scrub is anyone with less gear than your current main. |
| 18:07.58 | Seerah | it's the current term for noob |
| 18:08.00 | Industrial | so by defenition you're an ass when saying someones a scrub |
| 18:08.00 | Lopeppeppy | Mains can indeed be scrubs by another person's judgement, it's usually a pejorative term. |
| 18:08.03 | Seerah | noob is outdated |
| 18:08.10 | Lopeppeppy | Industrial, yes, sometimes. |
| 18:08.16 | malreth | scrub is an old term |
| 18:08.17 | Lunessa | I'm totally a scrub. |
| 18:08.24 | keias | Pretty much, Industrial. |
| 18:08.28 | Seerah | yes, Indie |
| 18:08.30 | Gnarfoz | scrubs are the guys you don't want to take on raids :p |
| 18:08.32 | malreth | people who complain about campers in quake were called scrubs |
| 18:08.43 | Lunessa | Girls tell me all the time, "I don't want no scrub. A scrub is a guy who can't get no love from me." |
| 18:08.50 | Industrial | rofl |
| 18:08.52 | Seerah | true, lunessa |
| 18:08.53 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 18:08.53 | Shirik | ~lart Lunessa |
| 18:08.53 | purl | executes killall -KILL Lunessa |
| 18:09.04 | Gnarfoz | quoting TLC lyrics |
| 18:09.05 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 18:09.09 | Seerah | I didn't mean it was a new term, just the new "in thing" to say |
| 18:09.20 | Lunessa | And now, many of you are humming that crappy ass song... |
| 18:09.32 | Gnarfoz | no, because I can't remember the melody |
| 18:09.35 | Seerah | it's fighting with Jesse's girl |
| 18:09.41 | Gnarfoz | also, |
| 18:09.42 | Gnarfoz | np: Katy Perry - Thinking of You · [>>>>>>----] (63%/4:06) |
| 18:09.53 | Gnarfoz | grr @ irssi |
| 18:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | mmmmmm brain bleach |
| 18:10.12 | Lunessa | My work here is done. I've commited my Evil Deed For the Day. I should submit an application to the Evil League of Evil. |
| 18:10.28 | Seerah | did you attend Evil Medical School? |
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| 18:10.49 | Lunessa | No, so I still only qualify to be called "mister." |
| 18:11.00 | Neuro_Medivh | In common parlance, a noob is someone who is fresh to a game and thus does not understand the various nuances and subtleties of his class. A scrub is a noob who refuses to learn, and remains in his noob state long after becoming a player |
| 18:11.06 | malreth | i submitted an application to the evil league of evil |
| 18:11.22 | Lunessa | Malreth, but Bad Horse just made you his mare. |
| 18:11.25 | Shirik | Good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa1IRGtp9Gw |
| 18:11.44 | kneeki | i love that song |
| 18:11.46 | malreth | no... seriously. i submitted an application. I hope i make it onto the DVD |
| 18:12.11 | Shirik | ~tackle malreth |
| 18:12.12 | purl | ACTION tackles malreth to the ground. |
| 18:12.36 | Lopeppeppy | Very wrong video though. |
| 18:12.49 | Shirik | it's the first one on youtube :( |
| 18:13.08 | Seerah | that is a good song. so is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3tNylJr7Z4 |
| 18:13.32 | Lunessa | the video for roll to me is creepy. |
| 18:13.43 | Neuro_Medivh | don't make me bust out the youtube links... I'll find that screwed up one I got a few weeks back |
| 18:13.47 | malreth | ~panchira Shirik |
| 18:13.47 | purl | ACTION flips Shirik's skirt up. Ooh... Panda print. Kawaii! |
| 18:14.05 | Aii | damnit purl :| |
| 18:14.08 | Lopeppeppy | I meant that the video was disturbing, not that it was incorrect. |
| 18:14.19 | Lunessa | I bought the Proclaimers album for that one song. |
| 18:14.33 | Shirik | Also good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPvoIpXys2o |
| 18:14.46 | Dashkal | That is just bizarre |
| 18:15.48 | Seerah | check out this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPX7OwkiOi8 |
| 18:15.52 | Lunessa | Ok, so I know that should I ever 'accidentally' acquire Seerah's iPod, I wouldn't have to wipe it. |
| 18:16.13 | Seerah | I don't own an iPod. :P |
| 18:16.36 | Shirik | I listen to way too many different types of music |
| 18:16.42 | Shirik | I guarantee Lunessa would find something he hates |
| 18:16.43 | Lunessa | Well, then... I guess your CD collection would overlap mine. |
| 18:16.57 | Seerah | oh, I have an mp3 player :) but iPods are overrated |
| 18:17.01 | kneeki | I listened to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPvoIpXys2o for 6 hours strait one day... |
| 18:17.01 | Lunessa | Shirik: Seeing as hate fuels me... |
| 18:17.08 | kneeki | and it didn't bother me at all |
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| 18:17.37 | keias | No socks again? |
| 18:17.59 | Lopeppeppy | I never wear socks if I can help it, keias. |
| 18:18.04 | Neuro_Medivh | Does lack of socks make one bad? |
| 18:18.14 | keias | It makes you a horrible, horrible, human being. |
| 18:18.23 | Shirik | Absolutely amazing song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWrEE99Uls |
| 18:18.26 | Shirik | I love the intro |
| 18:18.32 | Shirik | sends chills down my spine every time :) |
| 18:19.14 | Neuro_Medivh | Bah, THIS is a good song (ignore the FF video, that's all I can find of it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WokyNsoJ9T0 |
| 18:19.20 | Lopeppeppy | I adore "Anything for Love" by Meatloaf.... |
| 18:20.09 | keias | I dunno why, but Meatloaf always makes me laugh |
| 18:20.16 | keias | Even that silly cell comercial he's in. |
| 18:20.26 | Neuro_Medivh | every time I see him, I think of Fight Club |
| 18:20.43 | keias | lol |
| 18:20.58 | Shirik | I bet kd3 loves my song :) |
| 18:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | boooooo, why does most everything on the web require flash :( |
| 18:21.57 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:22.04 | ScytheBlade1 | (I don't mean youtube) |
| 18:22.12 | kd3 | lust for blood? heh |
| 18:22.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean things like CNN's map of the electoral votes so far |
| 18:22.19 | Gnarfoz | 'most everything' is quite the exaggeration |
| 18:22.22 | Shirik | Actually, ScytheBlade1, remember back to that flash vulnerability over the summer? |
| 18:22.28 | Shirik | This is the best part |
| 18:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/ <-- that's useless to me |
| 18:22.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I do |
| 18:22.39 | Shirik | I was working at Crayola at the time, they uninstalled flash from all computers to protect against it |
| 18:22.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:22.45 | Shirik | They didn't realize that our homepage was entirely in flash |
| 18:22.48 | Shirik | and I couldn't get anywhere |
| 18:22.56 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:22.57 | ScytheBlade1 | whoops |
| 18:23.17 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: CNN is reporting electoral votes for an election that hasn't happened yet? *headdesk* |
| 18:23.19 | Gnarfoz | well, install Gnash, then |
| 18:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling/index.html hey look another very useful link that is entirely worthless to me |
| 18:23.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: well, predictions. |
| 18:23.26 | Shirik | Lunessa: They always do that :) |
| 18:23.27 | Gnarfoz | or whatever you think is superior to flash |
| 18:23.36 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, some write-in ballots are already in and tallied? |
| 18:23.56 | Lunessa | Yes, but not nearly enough to decide a state and thus it's electoral college votes. |
| 18:24.22 | malreth | http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ is better |
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| 18:24.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: the map clearly says "polling".. :p |
| 18:24.40 | Lunessa | That's good. :P |
| 18:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey that site is much better |
| 18:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: much better, indeed :) |
| 18:25.07 | ScytheBlade1 | heh http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2969876806_8ed9f1b4f6_o.png |
| 18:25.15 | Neuro_Medivh | right now, the true battleground states are florida and pennsylvania |
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| 18:25.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: er, ohio's more of a toss up than PA, really |
| 18:25.45 | malreth | for new 538 visitors... columns left and right are math and stats... facts. column middle is opinion. |
| 18:26.05 | malreth | oh, and ads... |
| 18:26.09 | Neuro_Medivh | Well, McCain has to win OH, PN, and FL to win the election |
| 18:26.10 | malreth | the outside columns are ads |
| 18:26.26 | Neuro_Medivh | er, PA |
| 18:26.27 | malreth | this guy is crazy about stats |
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| 18:27.09 | malreth | if you're a baseball fan, you might recognize the guy's name |
| 18:27.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: yeah, i'm just saying that the latest data I've seen puts PA more towards obama than ohio |
| 18:27.30 | Neuro_Medivh | probably |
| 18:28.11 | NightHawkTheSane | but, in general, those are three key states for both sides. |
| 18:28.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Though it's surprising which others states are coming into play. |
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| 18:31.13 | Neuro_Medivh | You know what I dislike about this election? How the various media outlets have abandoned any pretense of objectivity. In most articles and stories on the election, the writer's own bias is clearly visible |
| 18:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Why does that bother you? |
| 18:32.11 | Lopeppeppy | At least they make it visible. |
| 18:32.12 | Neuro_Medivh | Because Journalism is supposed to be objective. Op-Ed is for opinionated pieces. |
| 18:32.14 | Lopeppeppy | I hate sneaky people. |
| 18:32.18 | alestane | No one's even trying anymore? |
| 18:33.01 | Industrial | you know what I like about american elections? it takes money to be successful. |
| 18:33.07 | Industrial | s/like/hate deeply/ |
| 18:33.11 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, well, while I see your point, if all journalism was supposed to be objective, and all of the Op-Ed was for opinion, even not during elections we'd have an entire paper of op-ed :P |
| 18:33.13 | Industrial | sorry, error there. |
| 18:33.28 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 18:34.06 | Neuro_Medivh | takes money to win just about any election |
| 18:34.19 | Neuro_Medivh | hell, that was true in Ancient Rome =) |
| 18:34.41 | malreth | i think it's a good thing that we're ruled by the rich |
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| 18:35.28 | Lopeppeppy | Bring back Calligula! |
| 18:35.52 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, found this in a sig: "The Warcraft Class Paradox - if you study the forums very closely, you will find that each class is inferior to every other class." |
| 18:37.05 | Dashkal | Should delete class forums and replace them with "Ranged DPS" "Melee DPS" "Healer" and "Tank" :p |
| 18:37.26 | Dashkal | Just hire a few extra mods |
| 18:37.38 | Neuro_Medivh | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11829374042&sid=1 |
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| 18:40.14 | Neuro_Medivh | btw, Lunessa, if you don't use Shockandawe, you need to |
| 18:40.28 | Lunessa | Why? |
| 18:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Neuro_Medivh: I have a private channel in WoW with a bunch of like-minded people. Over time, we have determined that each and every class is incredibly overpowered. |
| 18:42.42 | Mike-N-Go | Do channels like say or general support hidden addon chatter, or only party, guild, raid, whisper, battleground? |
| 18:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | The latter |
| 18:43.26 | Mike-N-Go | Darn. |
| 18:43.53 | Neuro_Medivh | Lunessa: You're Enh Shaman yes? I just tried Shockandawe, single best addon for managing every aspect of being an Enh shaman |
| 18:44.17 | Lunessa | Really? Better than OPie and macros? |
| 18:44.19 | Lunessa | :P |
| 18:44.32 | Mike-N-Go | I guess, I'll look into sending a chat prefix to a channel, and having the other users with the mod look for that prefix and whisper addon msgs. |
| 18:45.23 | Lunessa | Neuro_Medivh: It might be cool, but it's UGLY. |
| 18:45.31 | Neuro_Medivh | it's configurable |
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| 18:46.41 | Neuro_Medivh | I dunno, it helped my dps immensely... that and the cheater macro =) |
| 18:47.09 | Lunessa | I'll have to give it a try. What's the "cheater" macro to which you refer? |
| 18:47.32 | Neuro_Medivh | heheh, /castrandom Stormstrike, Earth Shock, Lava Lash |
| 18:47.45 | Neuro_Medivh | just spam the everloving crap out of that instead of trying to work out rotations |
| 18:48.08 | Lunessa | ... /pimpslap |
| 18:48.18 | Neuro_Medivh | someone at EJ did testing and found that the difference between the 'best' and 'worst' rotations is like 6dps |
| 18:48.35 | Lunessa | Though honestly, I'm having trouble remembering to hit Lava Lash oten enough. |
| 18:48.37 | NightHawkTheSane | and, theoretically, random should be somewhere between the two :p |
| 18:48.47 | Neuro_Medivh | so it doesn't actually matter WHAT you cast, as long as you cast something the instant it's off cooldown |
| 18:48.58 | Industrial | or spec elemental |
| 18:49.00 | Industrial | which pwns more |
| 18:49.01 | Industrial | =D |
| 18:49.05 | Neuro_Medivh | not till 75 =) |
| 18:49.17 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, its good enough as is |
| 18:49.21 | Lunessa | Enhancement is so much FUN. srsly. |
| 18:49.43 | Industrial | I had fun beating pallies in kara :D? |
| 18:49.48 | Neuro_Medivh | also, /cast lightning bolt /stopcasting that macro has helped me too |
| 18:49.57 | Neuro_Medivh | since testing found it doesn't interrupt swing timer |
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| 18:50.17 | kamdis | Our Ele shaman is crazy bad ass |
| 18:50.26 | kamdis | she pulls aggro like a mofo though |
| 18:50.33 | kamdis | we bet on how long it'll take till she dies |
| 18:50.37 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 18:50.56 | Lunessa | Nuero - I don't use a /stopcasting line. I just press my LB or CL keybind when I have a 5-stack of MW |
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| 18:51.39 | Lunessa | kamdis: My guildees used to say "It's not a Guild Run/Raid until Unkle dies." |
| 18:52.30 | Lopeppeppy | "Oh, Fick died, now we get epics!" |
| 18:52.49 | Lunessa | However, with 3.0.x my aggro-management is much easier. |
| 18:52.50 | RockSlice | is there any way to get the size of the stack you have in the cursor? |
| 18:53.38 | Shirik | Okay... I understand that configuration files should have some warnings |
| 18:53.43 | Shirik | this seems like a bit over the top, though: |
| 18:53.53 | Shirik | # If you want, you can arrange for uploaded anonymous files to be owned by |
| 18:53.53 | Shirik | # a different user. Note! Using "root" for uploaded files is not |
| 18:53.53 | Shirik | # recommended! |
| 18:53.58 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:54.50 | Lopeppeppy | I am re-learning aggro management. I dies a lot soloing. |
| 18:55.11 | Lunessa | RockSlice: http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Cursor_Functions |
| 18:55.26 | Industrial | Kaso: im only doing 1500dps now but I guess 3piece t6 alem shammies are going 2800 or something now? |
| 18:55.34 | Industrial | kamdis: * |
| 18:55.45 | RockSlice | Lunessa: I've looked there. The closest is GetCursorInfo() , which only returns "item", itemid, link |
| 18:55.47 | Kaso | damn everyone else who has a name with "k" |
| 18:55.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Your daily dose of unabashed immaturity: http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/for_your_inner_beavis |
| 18:55.56 | Industrial | heh |
| 18:56.21 | Industrial | kamdis: http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Xamth |
| 18:56.45 | Lunessa | RockSlice: Might need to test with like SplitContainerItem if you need to specify how much is on the cursor. |
| 18:57.14 | RockSlice | i don't need to specify how much is on the cursor, I need to find out how much is on the cursor |
| 18:57.16 | Industrial | NightHawkTheSane: nuuu lol why did you make me watch that |
| 18:57.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: i didn't MAKE you do anything |
| 18:57.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, the post even said you probably shouldn't :P |
| 18:57.58 | Lunessa | RockSlice: I was suggesting you might use that/cobble something from that. *shrug* |
| 18:58.03 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 18:58.12 | Neuro_Medivh | Oh, also Lunessa, ShockandAwe can directly export your stats into a file for EnhSim |
| 18:58.15 | kamdis | Industrial: she's not THAT good. |
| 18:58.25 | kamdis | our guild is not that far along. |
| 18:58.54 | kamdis | Lunessa: We always say "Nagini died, raid started!" ;-) |
| 18:59.01 | Lunessa | :D |
| 18:59.15 | Industrial | kamdis: thats me ^^ |
| 18:59.21 | kamdis | Actually, Industrial, she is probably that good. |
| 18:59.32 | kamdis | Now that I look at the gear :) |
| 18:59.50 | kamdis | lol @ frost shock dps hehe |
| 19:00.09 | kamdis | that's a cool site |
| 19:00.17 | Industrial | yeah it breaks everything down |
| 19:00.51 | Xuerian | Neuro_Medivh: Haha, that's a pretty good parody of wow :p |
| 19:01.40 | kamdis | you guys are pretty even, with her in her pvp gear http://uther-us.warcrafter.net/Nagini |
| 19:02.08 | kamdis | lol and her fishing pole |
| 19:02.50 | Industrial | lol :P |
| 19:03.35 | Lunessa | http://kirintor-us.warcrafter.net/Unkle |
| 19:03.44 | Industrial | my spellcrit needs to be WAY more tho |
| 19:03.56 | Industrial | actually thats old im at 20% now |
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| 19:05.17 | Lunessa | When they have corrected talents for 3.x that site will be handy. |
| 19:05.51 | Industrial | yeah :P |
| 19:07.10 | kamdis | Poor Emy's not going to make the "equip and epic in every slot" achievement until after level 80. :-( |
| 19:07.11 | kamdis | http://uther-us.warcrafter.net/Emynwen |
| 19:07.29 | kamdis | I need that Witching Band |
| 19:07.53 | Industrial | yipes 500 error |
| 19:09.12 | kamdis | she's basically all kara geared because by the time i transferred her back to uther my guild was sick of raiding and had stopped gruul's mag/tk |
| 19:09.50 | Industrial | we cant get people online for raids :( |
| 19:09.52 | Industrial | we are at MH |
| 19:10.00 | Industrial | trying to get it cleared monday |
| 19:11.42 | Dashkal | the blues are have a riot over this plague... |
| 19:11.51 | Dashkal | I should go eat some brains tonight |
| 19:12.04 | kamdis | NOM NOM NOM |
| 19:17.51 | NightHawkTheSane | kamdis: i dont think you can get the 'epic in every slot' achievement until level 80 anyway, as there's an ilvl requirement :p |
| 19:18.10 | kamdis | oh right |
| 19:18.13 | kamdis | well that's good |
| 19:18.14 | nevcairiel | ZorbaTHut: QuestHelper should _really_ stop calling SetMapToCurrentZone when within an instance, its damn annoying |
| 19:18.16 | kamdis | i guess |
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| 19:18.47 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go: stop necro'ing threads on wowi! |
| 19:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: what does it do thats annoying? >.> |
| 19:19.12 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: cause WORLD_MAP_UPDATE to fire a million times per second or so |
| 19:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | i see. |
| 19:19.34 | kamdis | cog|work: you can link and post till you're blue in the face, but people are still going to think that addon memory usage matters. :| |
| 19:19.34 | nevcairiel | it seems like QH does it in an OnUpdate |
| 19:19.55 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: I was just curious if it did something -really- obnoxious, as my addon calls that when you try to mount |
| 19:20.28 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: no thats fine, but calling it OnUpdate and within an instance where it doesnt do _anything_ good, is just stupid :P |
| 19:20.34 | ZorbaTHut | nev, does it? maybe that's part of the astrolabe changes I had to make, I'll see if I can figure it out |
| 19:20.47 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: *nod* like i said, i was just curious :) |
| 19:20.48 | ArrowmasterClass | nevcairiel: does it do it even if the map is shown? |
| 19:21.05 | nevcairiel | ArrowmasterClass: no it stops then |
| 19:21.11 | ArrowmasterClass | good |
| 19:21.18 | ArrowmasterClass | thats the most annoying |
| 19:21.35 | Dashkal | Zombie phate three gogo. 5 minute infection time |
| 19:21.39 | nevcairiel | ZorbaTHut: it definately does, i can even tell you where exactly :P |
| 19:21.40 | Dashkal | phase* |
| 19:22.00 | ZorbaTHut | nev, where as in what line, or where as in when it happens? |
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| 19:22.31 | cog|work | kamdis: is true |
| 19:22.34 | nevcairiel | main.lua 772 |
| 19:22.48 | nevcairiel | it happens every god damn frame when i'm in any instance |
| 19:22.51 | nevcairiel | and the worldmap is hidden |
| 19:23.03 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, I wonder why it does that |
| 19:23.25 | nevcairiel | because its in the OnUpdate ? <.< |
| 19:23.26 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:23.34 | ZorbaTHut | obviously my question is "I wonder why it's there" |
| 19:25.55 | Shirik | ~~~ |
| 19:29.38 | foxlit | grr, dbm comm protocols. |
| 19:30.00 | foxlit | I mean, does every single dbm instance really have to repeat the herald's yells? |
| 19:31.07 | ArrowmasterClass | just dont use DBM |
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| 19:31.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Tem|work] by ChanServ |
| 19:31.11 | Xuerian | IF IT DIDN'T, SOMEONE MIGHT MISS IT =O |
| 19:31.19 | Xuerian | PS, ADDON CHANNEL IS CRUSE CONTROL |
| 19:31.28 | Shirik | ..? |
| 19:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:31.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I can get on board with that |
| 19:31.43 | foxlit | ArrowmasterClass: that's not really a solution |
| 19:34.25 | Shirik | ow |
| 19:34.31 | Shirik | you know what the worst part of choking on ramen is? |
| 19:34.41 | Shirik | it stays there forever >< |
| 19:34.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:34.46 | ScytheBlade1 | more water |
| 19:35.04 | haste | you have ramen? I hate you :( |
| 19:35.16 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:35.20 | Lopeppeppy | I wants some ramen.... |
| 19:35.23 | Shirik | If it makes you feel any better, it's only maruchan |
| 19:35.37 | Shirik | not real |
| 19:35.49 | haste | :3 |
| 19:36.34 | Dewin | oh that's totally not fair. |
| 19:36.52 | Dewin | I've been craving a juicy cheeseburger and before I even get to take one bite of the one I just got you guys made me crave ramen. |
| 19:37.08 | Dewin | #wowuidev ruined my cheeseburger, QQ! |
| 19:37.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd rather have the cheeseburger, honestly |
| 19:37.25 | Dewin | from Sonic :) |
| 19:37.53 | Shirik | sorry Dewin |
| 19:37.53 | Dewin | =[]\ |
| 19:37.53 | Dewin | \= |
| 19:37.55 | Dewin | \]['? n\\ |
| 19:37.56 | Dewin | \]]\]\ |
| 19:37.57 | Dewin | \=] |
| 19:37.57 | Dewin | ['] |
| 19:38.01 | Dewin | ...oops |
| 19:38.04 | Shirik | uh |
| 19:38.06 | Shirik | I'm not sorry anymore |
| 19:38.09 | Lunessa | cog|work: that makes me sad. |
| 19:38.10 | Shirik | what was that? |
| 19:38.21 | Dewin | Spilled something on the keyboard and didn't realize this window had focus |
| 19:38.27 | Shirik | rofl |
| 19:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 19:38.47 | haste | you almost wrote a perl script there! |
| 19:38.48 | Dewin | actually, I was kidding. I was writing perl. |
| 19:38.51 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 19:39.00 | haste | \:D/ |
| 19:39.06 | Industrial | whee 1k selfbuffed spellpower |
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| 19:40.20 | Dewin | That would have been far more interesting if it made shiibot +R the channel |
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| 19:41.32 | Lothaer | are there any tools that can translate a mod to other locals? |
| 19:41.54 | haste | no, not really |
| 19:41.57 | kd3 | babelfish the relevant strings? |
| 19:42.06 | haste | sounds like a failed attempt |
| 19:42.46 | Dewin | babelfish? Ahh yes. /addon help Usage: /addon show Main screen turn on. |
| 19:43.06 | Shirik | Dewin: You came damn close |
| 19:43.21 | Shirik | the only reason he didn't was because he trusts you too much, so it's hard to get your score up |
| 19:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | Someone set up us the bomb |
| 19:43.43 | Shirik | But you did get up to a score of 13, which is pretty high |
| 19:43.58 | Dewin | Shirik: heh. I presume the fact that I'm registered gives me a little protection? |
| 19:44.05 | Shirik | that's one |
| 19:44.10 | Shirik | another is that he's seen you talking for a while :) |
| 19:44.37 | Dewin | So to crapflood the channel, all's I need to do is add all the regular's computers to my botnet? |
| 19:44.54 | Shirik | eventually it would be caught :) |
| 19:44.56 | Shirik | but yes |
| 19:44.59 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: All your base are blong to us. |
| 19:45.13 | Dewin | What??! |
| 19:46.36 | Lopeppeppy | Blog to us? |
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| 19:46.59 | malreth | this lab is obviously fucking with me |
| 19:47.25 | malreth | doesn't it know that it's my bitch and should do what i tell it to if it knows what's good for it? |
| 19:47.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, it is. |
| 19:47.30 | Lopeppeppy | No, it doesn't |
| 19:47.51 | Dewin | malreth: bitches are no good if you never get to punish them for bad behavior? |
| 19:48.01 | Dashkal | Don't leave fingerprints on the monitors |
| 19:48.36 | malreth | that's why i use the back of my hand |
| 19:49.03 | Dashkal | ahh ok, all good then |
| 19:49.50 | malreth | there! now don't give me any of that Cryptographic Services shit ever again. |
| 19:50.00 | kd3 | heh, my server just crashed |
| 19:51.20 | Dewin | after all this time, the flash films at mortisland still amuse me. |
| 19:54.42 | Lothaer | does anyone know were i could find anyone to translate a mod to Korean and Chinesse (Simplified and/or Traditional)? |
| 19:55.56 | Dewin | Have any korean or chinese users? And what mod? (Disclaimer: I'm multilingual, but all of my additional languages are meant to be spoken in soothing tones into a compiler) |
| 19:56.37 | malreth | those compilers really have no ear for nuance, too |
| 19:57.13 | Lothaer | the mod is Titan and i think there would probably be some Chinese or Korean users |
| 19:58.21 | Lothaer | but atm Titan only supports German, Spanish, French, Russian and English (ofcoarse :)). |
| 19:58.27 | Dewin | if it's Titan, it's just a matter of asking for people who can translate. |
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| 19:59.30 | Lothaer | kk i think ill make some posts at worldofwar and wowinterface etc :D |
| 20:00.11 | Dewin | And maybe add code that outputs a "Are you able to translate Titan into Chinese or Korean? If so, go here" message that's sent to the default chat frame if the locale is correct to the next build :) |
| 20:01.24 | Lothaer | ill drop that to Tristanian thanks :D |
| 20:01.32 | Dewin | you're the main/one of the main Titan devs? |
| 20:02.09 | Dewin | If so, thanks;) |
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| 20:02.39 | Dewin | My war on minimap icons continues. |
| 20:02.44 | Lothaer | i am on the Titan Dev Team |
| 20:03.00 | Lothaer | i mainly beta test shit for them :D |
| 20:03.15 | Dewin | quality beta testing is important |
| 20:03.52 | Lothaer | sure is :D |
| 20:04.30 | Dewin | I need to put out an update to Progression... still. |
| 20:04.45 | Dewin | And I found a new bug last night: it shows when you're in the 'new character' cutscene. No idea how to fix that |
| 20:05.48 | Dewin | Of course, I dumped 28g of soulbinding bags on my new toon before I realized he was a little too pale and now I want to remake him |
| 20:06.02 | Dewin | they should open a tanning salon next to the barber imho. |
| 20:08.06 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, tanning. |
| 20:08.18 | Lothaer | LOL blizzard did drop a hit to paid character customization in the future :D |
| 20:08.37 | Dewin | lol, I'm not going to pay real money to change a level 3 toon's skin color. |
| 20:09.08 | Lothaer | what would be the best forum to post on wowinterface for what i want? |
| 20:09.11 | Dewin | By the way, the new hairstyles aren't selectable at character creation, but a level 1 can use the barber for free. |
| 20:09.22 | Lothaer | lol |
| 20:09.22 | Dewin | Loth: Put it on the description page for Titan? |
| 20:11.03 | alestane | Did anyone see if the guy yesterday whose toon was on fire for hours on end got sorted out? |
| 20:11.42 | Lopeppeppy | Fire. Fire. *tee hee* |
| 20:11.58 | Lunessa | BWAHAHAHAHA - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11676470393&sid=1#4 |
| 20:12.09 | alestane | Are feeling QUITE well, dear? |
| 20:12.57 | malreth | that can't be.... I'M Tiger Woods! |
| 20:13.01 | Shirik | lua> 0.1 * 60 |
| 20:13.02 | lua_bot | Shirik: 6 |
| 20:13.32 | alestane | Checking Lua's work, Shirik? |
| 20:13.36 | Dashkal | nice.. |
| 20:13.39 | Shirik | uh, yes, that's what I was doing |
| 20:14.09 | Lunessa | Evol makes me laugh on a rgular basis. |
| 20:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik... darlin'.... even I can do that math, and I suck so hard at math I should be renamed Hoover. |
| 20:14.21 | Shirik | It was a lot more complicated when I was thinking about the problem! |
| 20:14.31 | Shirik | If someone makes a dime in a minute, what is their hourly pay rate? |
| 20:14.39 | Shirik | That sounds a lot harder than 0.1 * 60 >.> |
| 20:14.43 | malreth | Hoover couldn't do math? No wonder the country went into a depression! |
| 20:15.20 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: And when there are so many much more interesting ways to earn that title, too! |
| 20:15.22 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I told you already I wasn't sane today. |
| 20:15.24 | Shirik | --> newproxy |
| 20:15.24 | batbot | Shirik: > nil |
| 20:15.28 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:15.32 | Lopeppeppy | ALESTANE! *shows dino teeth* |
| 20:16.01 | nevcairiel | Man how many people spam in the UI Forums, wonder if Blizz actually manages to *find* the proper bug reports |
| 20:16.07 | Lopeppeppy | *whispers quietly* That's for private dino-chat, silly. :P |
| 20:16.15 | Shirik | !! |
| 20:16.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, was that out loud too? How careless of me. *flutters lashes* |
| 20:17.27 | alestane | I see I should have listened to that particular little voice this time... |
| 20:18.34 | alestane | *FLuhMPH!* |
| 20:19.04 | alestane | Just passed a pally in-game named "ouchbunyon." |
| 20:19.16 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
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| 20:21.54 | Shirik | :( she went bye bye |
| 20:22.41 | malreth | hmm... infection time reduced to 5 min... that means more opportunities for 'cleansing' |
| 20:23.21 | alestane | 'cleansing' what exaclty? |
| 20:23.34 | kd3 | the living? |
| 20:23.46 | malreth | cleansing the zombies of their affliction... |
| 20:23.49 | malreth | WITH FIRE |
| 20:23.51 | Dashkal | braaiiinnssss... |
| 20:23.53 | Dashkal | nom om om om |
| 20:24.17 | malreth | i was chatting with a friend whom i hadn't seen in a while while in goldshire |
| 20:24.26 | Xuerian | malreth: Destro mm |
| 20:24.35 | malreth | and as we stood there, some zombie came up out of no where and just started chewing on him |
| 20:25.13 | malreth | i blinked away just before he corpse-sploded |
| 20:25.55 | malreth | i then offered to cleanse him too... but it would take a while. after that it'd be over quickly. |
| 20:26.03 | malreth | he opted to run to Stormwind instead |
| 20:26.17 | Lunessa | nom nom nom... braiiiiiins. |
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| 20:28.03 | Lunessa | I see you're about to starve... |
| 20:28.10 | malreth | appetizer |
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| 20:43.50 | Xuerian | Nifty, didn't see someone had made a achievement ui replacement |
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| 20:49.59 | malreth | Xuerian: oh? |
| 20:50.57 | Xuerian | malreth: yeah, Seerah|away's weekly picks pointed out Urban Achiever, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10867-UrbanAchiever.html |
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| 20:52.18 | malreth | that fact that it allows tracking of more than one achievement makes it a win in my book |
| 20:53.08 | malreth | try tracking the Masquerade achievement... the blizzard tracker window is useless for it |
| 20:54.03 | Xuerian | malreth: How do you track em with it? |
| 20:54.16 | malreth | shift click on the achievement |
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| 20:54.40 | malreth | but the blizzard achievement tracker only tracks one at a time |
| 20:55.05 | malreth | and it cuts off the right side of the text and only displays about 7 or 8 lines of text |
| 20:55.21 | malreth | so you see "Hallowed Wand - ..." |
| 20:55.46 | malreth | THANKS BLIZZARD! |
| 20:56.20 | Xuerian | Oh, it's in the middle of the screen... |
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| 20:58.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 20:58.13 | kromar | hi |
| 20:58.22 | Cide | why hello |
| 20:58.27 | Cide | how can I help you? |
| 20:58.43 | cog|work | ~poke Cide |
| 20:58.44 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Cide, pokes Cide repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:58.49 | Lunessa | Cide, you could give me all your gold and stuff. |
| 20:59.00 | Cide | sure. which realm? |
| 21:01.34 | Lunessa | Kirin Tor, US. Thanks. :) |
| 21:02.21 | Cide | hit me up with $25 and I'll see what I can do |
| 21:02.57 | Cide | my credit card still bounces. no dice. |
| 21:03.29 | Lunessa | Cide: How do I know you won't just spend it on hookers and crack? I mean I /know/ you. |
| 21:03.33 | Cide | not quite like checks do, but more in a.. physical way |
| 21:03.33 | malreth | oh shit! thanks for reminding me... |
| 21:03.44 | Cide | up, down, up, down... |
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| 21:03.58 | Cide | Lunessa: get a haircut and get a real job |
| 21:04.01 | Codex| | who here uses Prat? |
| 21:04.05 | Cide | you? |
| 21:04.10 | Cide | oh shit I made a funnay |
| 21:04.12 | Lunessa | Cide: That assumes I have hair to cut. |
| 21:04.14 | Cide | ~cide++ |
| 21:04.21 | cog|work | Cide: i thought it was up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right |
| 21:04.22 | Lunessa | ~cide-- |
| 21:04.28 | Cide | the fuck |
| 21:04.32 | Cide | you bastard! |
| 21:04.36 | Cide | ~karma cide |
| 21:04.36 | purl | cide has karma of 1 |
| 21:04.40 | Cide | it was 2 :/ |
| 21:04.49 | cog|work | can't karma yourself? :P |
| 21:04.49 | Cide | cog|work: and select+start |
| 21:04.52 | Cide | nope |
| 21:05.02 | Lunessa | Hey, my folks were married at the time of my conception and birth. I can't be a bastard. |
| 21:05.11 | Lunessa | ~cide++ |
| 21:05.24 | Cide | still a bastard |
| 21:05.39 | Lunessa | It's the hookers and crack comment, isn't it? |
| 21:05.45 | Cide | no |
| 21:05.47 | Cide | that one's accurate |
| 21:05.56 | Mike-N-Go | ckknight: Your donation link on http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4571 is broken. |
| 21:06.09 | Cide | Lunessa: it's the lack of hair. it irks me. |
| 21:06.24 | Lunessa | Dude, that's why I grow chin-shiskers. |
| 21:06.28 | malreth | i think i'll shave me noggin like lunessa |
| 21:06.31 | Lunessa | whiskers even. |
| 21:06.37 | Cide | shiskers ftw |
| 21:06.55 | Lunessa | malreth: Better consult "She Who Rules All" before you do that. |
| 21:07.04 | Cide | ^ |
| 21:07.43 | malreth | you don't think i can make a decision without the approval of my wife? |
| 21:07.59 | malreth | what kind of man do you think-- oh.. she says, "no" |
| 21:08.05 | Cide | see. |
| 21:08.34 | Lunessa | malreth: I rest my case. |
| 21:09.05 | malreth | soufron: is that latin? |
| 21:09.30 | Cide | .. |
| 21:09.40 | Cide | .fr implies french |
| 21:09.58 | Cide | unless you were trolling |
| 21:10.05 | Cide | in which case I /bow to your trolliness |
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| 21:10.22 | Lothaer | lol |
| 21:10.43 | Lunessa | je nes parle fracais. |
| 21:10.53 | Cide | I don't speak french |
| 21:10.58 | Lothaer | DAMN U |
| 21:11.00 | Lothaer | beat me :D |
| 21:11.07 | Cide | I beat everybody |
| 21:11.08 | Cide | don't even try |
| 21:11.31 | Lunessa | He even has a stick called "Cide's Beatstick" |
| 21:11.47 | Lothaer | sometimes being the first is a bad thing |
| 21:12.18 | Cide | only if you like being second |
| 21:13.04 | Lothaer | being first to get off is a bad thing wouldnt u agree? |
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| 21:13.23 | Lothaer | which im sure you do quite often |
| 21:13.31 | Cide | no, it means I get to go watch soccer |
| 21:13.43 | Lothaer | ur a sad sad little man |
| 21:13.55 | Codex| | the prat module that remembers channel colors is still not remembering on zone out and zone back in |
| 21:13.57 | Cide | I'm a sarcastic little man, if anything |
| 21:14.02 | Lothaer | ~pitty +Cide |
| 21:14.11 | Lothaer | damn |
| 21:14.12 | Cide | see that +? |
| 21:14.18 | Cide | it means I'm better than you |
| 21:14.27 | Lothaer | u cant be better than me |
| 21:14.34 | Cide | haha. |
| 21:14.43 | Lothaer | cause im Australian and everyone knows they are the best |
| 21:14.44 | malreth | lol |
| 21:14.49 | Lothaer | see i WIM!!! |
| 21:14.49 | Cide | I'm a swede |
| 21:14.56 | bleeter | Lothaer++ |
| 21:14.57 | Lothaer | ur neutral |
| 21:14.59 | Lothaer | sissy |
| 21:15.04 | Cide | our women are recognized to be the hottest in the world |
| 21:15.13 | Cide | I win |
| 21:15.19 | bleeter | Lothaer: let's invade NZ so we can get another public holiday |
| 21:15.21 | malreth | That makes Cide automatically better. Swede music > Aussie music |
| 21:15.22 | Lothaer | if your drunk enough yeah |
| 21:15.28 | Cide | dude, please |
| 21:15.30 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 21:15.35 | bleeter | Lothaer: they're sissies too |
| 21:15.40 | Lothaer | i bet lol |
| 21:15.41 | Cide | swedish women ARE known to be extremely hot according to west-european standards |
| 21:16.04 | Lothaer | in other words |
| 21:16.07 | Polina | swedish men on the other hand.. |
| 21:16.08 | Lothaer | they are very hairy |
| 21:16.29 | Cide | http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/18/svPIRES_narrowweb__300x339,2.jpg |
| 21:16.32 | Cide | australian woman |
| 21:16.36 | Cide | did I win yet? |
| 21:16.55 | Cide | is Polina the new Polarina? |
| 21:17.18 | Lothaer | http://www.twc-aust.com.au/hall-of-flame/matilda.jpg |
| 21:17.21 | Lothaer | Australian Women |
| 21:17.22 | Polina | I don't think so, who is polarina? |
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| 21:18.26 | bleeter | Lothaer: moar sheila -> http://www.rockyarchive.org/img/celebrityphotos/Humphries-DameEdnaL.jpg |
| 21:18.30 | Lunessa | Beautiful/Hot women are like gold. They happen to be where you find them. |
| 21:18.36 | kamdis | Polina: Someone who used to frequent this channel. |
| 21:18.44 | Polina | not me :) |
| 21:18.47 | Lothaer | HEY HEY HEY |
| 21:18.59 | Lothaer | Damn Edna is freaking HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:19.04 | bleeter | qft |
| 21:19.05 | Lothaer | so dont even go their |
| 21:19.08 | bleeter | and smrt |
| 21:19.17 | Lothaer | now go make me some furniture i can put together myself |
| 21:19.20 | Cide | Lothaer: that's hot? |
| 21:19.22 | bleeter | not sum dum swed bimbo |
| 21:19.40 | bleeter | rawr |
| 21:19.41 | Lothaer | L2 sarcasm lol |
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| 21:19.43 | bleeter | BBBRRAAAINNNZZZ |
| 21:19.46 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 21:19.48 | Amarande | G'evening. |
| 21:19.53 | Lothaer | Morning |
| 21:19.59 | Amarande | bleeter, does the latest Auctioneer build actually show auctioneer info in the tooltips now? |
| 21:20.00 | Cairenn | hi |
| 21:20.02 | Cide | I meant your link, not bleeter's |
| 21:20.17 | Amarande | I thought 3603 worked perfectly and avoided any problems people were reporting, until I noticed that the EnhTooltips don't actually load anything from the saved auctioneer data :S |
| 21:20.28 | bleeter | BBBRRAAAINNNZZZ |
| 21:20.34 | foxlit | halp, I've been on fire for the last hour :( |
| 21:20.38 | bleeter | EEEAAATTTT |
| 21:20.39 | Amarande | also, I'll be braaaaaaains tomorrow |
| 21:20.42 | Amarande | I have to work at 7am. :| |
| 21:20.43 | Cide | find a source of oxygen, foxlit |
| 21:20.46 | bleeter | BBBRrrrRAaaaAAINNNZZZ |
| 21:21.11 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 21:21.14 | foxlit | But it's magical fire? |
| 21:21.17 | Lothaer | Sweden: Famous For Death Metal, ABBA, Knäckebröd & Red Gummy Fish |
| 21:21.26 | Lothaer | wtf is the third???? |
| 21:21.32 | Amarande | Lothaer: you forget 'incredibly beautiful women' :) |
| 21:21.34 | Cide | http://www.theforumsite.com/forum/topic/Swedish-Women-are-the-Hottest-/141564 |
| 21:21.34 | bleeter | Amarande: i dunno, i've got it disabled atm |
| 21:21.38 | Cide | hahaha |
| 21:21.46 | Cide | Amarande hasn't even been part of the conversation |
| 21:21.52 | bleeter | foxlit: ingame? there was some thread on US CSF/GM forum yesterday/last night |
| 21:22.12 | Amarande | although, the quantity of beautiful women is perhaps not entirely important to someone who will probably at some point get married, and therefore only, in the end, seeks A beautiful woman. :) |
| 21:22.23 | foxlit | I'm sure being on fire in RL would have some more serious consequences than whining in an IRC channel :) |
| 21:22.31 | Amarande | meanwhile ... is it actually true that arcane spec sucks now? |
| 21:22.32 | Cide | but say everyone gets married |
| 21:22.33 | bleeter | foxlit: GM was.. Reythur iirc, he seemed quite stumped. dunno what the resolution was. |
| 21:22.46 | foxlit | It's just a graphical effect. |
| 21:22.47 | bleeter | foxlit: figured as much about the fire IRL thing, but.. well.. it's IRC. gotta check these things ;) |
| 21:22.51 | Amarande | EJ is telling me that arcane spec is fail spec for mages now, pretty much :| |
| 21:22.51 | bleeter | BRRRRAINNNNSSSSSS |
| 21:22.56 | Cide | the greater the amount of hot women, the greater amount of married men with hot wives |
| 21:23.03 | Lothaer | cides just jelous that he cant get women of his own nation to sleep with him |
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| 21:23.27 | Cide | at least type correctly before you try to mock me. your country even has english as its native language. |
| 21:23.39 | Cide | for a loose definition of "native" |
| 21:23.56 | Lothaer | meh |
| 21:23.58 | Amarande | well, you never know Cide, he might be trying to use a laggy ssh shell |
| 21:24.07 | Amarande | I still remember the one and only time I tried to irc from a shell account |
| 21:24.12 | Cide | I code in a laggy ssh shell. see any bugs in my addons? |
| 21:24.13 | Amarande | it was very difficult to bype accutratchaely, as I recall |
| 21:24.20 | bleeter | Cairenn: I've almost managed to convince myself that I need to care about the Pidgin API to write a Zombie plugin. Weight it so the closer to release, the more it randomly turns lines posted into 'bBBraaainz... must eat' etc. |
| 21:24.21 | kamdis | ~Cide++ |
| 21:24.23 | Lothaer | http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmUKVrT0iI |
| 21:24.31 | Lothaer | is all i have to say to that mate :D |
| 21:24.37 | Cairenn | bleeter: lol |
| 21:24.45 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:24.50 | Cairenn | I'd use it ;) |
| 21:24.51 | Amarande | this blue margarita recipe doesn't make sense |
| 21:24.56 | malreth | wow! they have youtube even in Australia? |
| 21:24.57 | Amarande | "1 oz Blue Curacao, 1 oz triple sec" |
| 21:24.58 | Amarande | erm |
| 21:25.00 | Cide | let's settle this conversation with |
| 21:25.00 | Cide | http://www.expressen.se/sex/1.729040 |
| 21:25.08 | Amarande | why not just use 2 oz Blue Curacao ... Blue Curacao IS triple sec, as far as I'm aware :S |
| 21:25.29 | Cide | translation: "Swedish women want to have sex more often / 70% of Sweden's women had an orgasm last week" |
| 21:25.35 | Cide | now |
| 21:26.00 | Lothaer | were has Cide hasnt had one in his life (and thats including with himself) |
| 21:26.07 | kamdis | but, for how many of the 70% were you responsible, Cide? |
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| 21:26.17 | Cide|celebrating | kamdis: just one |
| 21:26.26 | Amarande | Cide, I think you should code a bug into your addon now |
| 21:26.28 | kamdis | well, better than none! way to contribute. :) |
| 21:26.34 | *** part/#wowuidev Sangi_ (n=Sangi@72.242.44.146) |
| 21:26.44 | Amarande | one that's extremely subtle, and causes the addon to fail epically, but only when using characters matching the names of Lothaer's toons :) |
| 21:27.01 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 21:27.09 | foxlit | damn you, Lua. |
| 21:27.14 | Lothaer | what mod is his? |
| 21:27.15 | Amarande | fox: what? |
| 21:27.24 | Amarande | I'm actually not sure LOL |
| 21:27.24 | malreth | bwah ha ha ha! i love myself! |
| 21:27.24 | foxlit | There's no underhanded way to be subtle in introducing targetted bugs |
| 21:27.39 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 21:27.46 | malreth | O_O |
| 21:27.53 | Cide|celebrating | Cairenn: move to sweden! |
| 21:27.53 | Amarande | fox: there has to be some way to like, calculate a hashed sum of the active character name |
| 21:27.59 | Cide|celebrating | Lothaer: www.ctmod.net |
| 21:28.06 | kamdis | I'm sure there are any number of guys in the channel that would oblige you, Cairenn. |
| 21:28.08 | Cairenn | errr, sorry, was that my outside voice again? |
| 21:28.09 | Amarande | then introduce checks in the code for that number, making it look like some sort of legitimate coding :) |
| 21:28.13 | Lothaer | CT is still around? |
| 21:28.23 | Cide|celebrating | rtfn |
| 21:28.23 | Lothaer | i thought that was abandoned ages ago |
| 21:28.23 | malreth | Cairenn: well played |
| 21:28.46 | foxlit | Amarande: yes, but that'll look suspicious as heck |
| 21:28.47 | Cide|celebrating | Lothaer: aye, after everything I did was adopted by other mods and blizzard. what's your contribution to wow? :) |
| 21:28.57 | Lunessa | ... Cairenn I'm shocked you didn't get flooded off the server by replies. |
| 21:28.58 | Amarande | yes Loth, Connecticut is still around, and hasn't been abandoned despite the fact that it's a soul-sucking mire |
| 21:29.14 | malreth | Lunessa: it's because we both love and fear Cairenn |
| 21:29.19 | Lothaer | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=3652 |
| 21:29.25 | Lothaer | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=6523 |
| 21:29.29 | Lothaer | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=mod&m=3095 |
| 21:29.38 | malreth | KEYLOGGERS! |
| 21:29.43 | Cide|celebrating | let's see |
| 21:29.51 | kamdis | Hey! I'm from Connecticut. :( |
| 21:29.51 | Lunessa | I do not fear Cairenn I fear the mob that would rise up to destroy me if I did more than flirt. :P |
| 21:30.04 | Lothaer | also on the Titan Dev Team, Beta Tester for LunarSphere, Bejeweled, WIM also helped alittle with Atlas and AtlasLoot |
| 21:30.16 | malreth | oh yeah? |
| 21:30.20 | Cide|celebrating | lua> (7090+648+25131)/(20*10^6) |
| 21:30.20 | lua_bot | Cide|celebrating: 0.00164345 |
| 21:30.31 | Cide|celebrating | Lothaer: hey, you have a bit more than 0.1% of my downloads |
| 21:30.35 | malreth | we'll there's no one... NO ONE on this channel that has done LESS for the WoW community than I |
| 21:30.39 | Cide|celebrating | I bow to your manliness |
| 21:30.43 | Amarande | If (character name matches Lothaer's) (secretly subtract 30% from total points scored during every bejeweled game) |
| 21:30.46 | Lothaer | lol |
| 21:30.47 | kamdis | Lothaer: I <3 ComeHere |
| 21:30.48 | alestane | Cide: What does "kärlek" indicate? |
| 21:30.51 | Cide|celebrating | "love" |
| 21:31.02 | Lothaer | kamdis: your welcome |
| 21:31.05 | Lunessa | malreth: lies. |
| 21:31.14 | malreth | s/e'l/el/ |
| 21:31.17 | kamdis | I thought it would bug the crap out of me, but now I miss it if I turn it off. |
| 21:31.42 | Amarande | Cide, there's still no current guildfu-style addon for Titan, is there? :| |
| 21:31.56 | Lothaer | i used to use CTRA along time ago then it kinda went dead |
| 21:32.12 | Cide|celebrating | Amarande: I don't name mods, I code them |
| 21:32.21 | Cide|celebrating | Lothaer: same. shitty mod. |
| 21:32.26 | Lothaer | and afaik it was due to lack of time and man power? or something like that |
| 21:32.34 | Cide|celebrating | both, yep |
| 21:32.37 | Cide|celebrating | and laziness |
| 21:32.46 | Amarande | Cide: I mean 'a current addon for Titan Panel that adds info to the Titan bar on number of guildies on and lets you see who by mousing over' |
| 21:32.59 | Cide|celebrating | it served its role very well, in any case |
| 21:33.01 | Amarande | that's probably the one thing I miss the most having gone from FuBar to TP |
| 21:33.02 | Lothaer | Amarande: there are some LDB quest plugins that work with titan |
| 21:33.13 | malreth | picoGuild? |
| 21:33.28 | malreth | i use picoGuild and picoFriends |
| 21:33.31 | Cide|celebrating | why would you have anything less than 1 guild? |
| 21:33.42 | malreth | they're made by tekkub so they gotta be good |
| 21:33.54 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:34.03 | Tekkub | should I use my BC mount, or sell it? |
| 21:34.11 | Tekkub | gonna keep the beta key either way |
| 21:34.40 | malreth | if you sell it, what will the money be used for? |
| 21:34.44 | malreth | WAIT! |
| 21:34.50 | malreth | i don't want to know |
| 21:34.50 | Tekkub | computer upgrades |
| 21:34.53 | malreth | oh |
| 21:35.00 | malreth | sexy computer upgrades? |
| 21:35.03 | Lothaer | Amarande: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9514-QuestGlance.html |
| 21:35.04 | malreth | ._. |
| 21:35.05 | Lunessa | Man, the correct answer is "hookers and crack" |
| 21:35.07 | Tekkub | but I already have enough to do mobo/proc/mem/vid |
| 21:35.12 | Tekkub | just need PSU also |
| 21:35.44 | Lothaer | :P |
| 21:36.05 | malreth | all my labs are patched. |
| 21:36.19 | Lunessa | malreth: I just sent out the warning that we're patching. |
| 21:36.21 | malreth | in 24 hours, we've managed to patch over 6000 computers on campus. no hax for us |
| 21:36.25 | kamdis | malreth, you are evil. |
| 21:36.40 | kamdis | asking the imac cow if he has vista installed. |
| 21:36.41 | kamdis | lol |
| 21:36.46 | malreth | kamdis: :) |
| 21:37.05 | Cide|celebrating | malreth: that's... OVER nine th.. err. fail. |
| 21:37.27 | Lunessa | Actually, I thought it was pretty gorram funny |
| 21:37.32 | malreth | we'd have done more but we've only just started to roll out SCCM across campus |
| 21:38.44 | malreth | Taking the wife out to dinner for her birthday tonight. She just turned 17. later all! |
| 21:39.01 | bleeter | BRRRRAINNNNSSSSSS |
| 21:39.17 | kneeki | malreth: haha |
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| 21:39.41 | Lothaer | Tekkub: check this out http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/IMG_NEW.jpg |
| 21:39.47 | Lunessa | His wife is nice. And she's not 17. :P |
| 21:39.52 | Lothaer | its a few months old i havnt got a new PCPP in awhile :D |
| 21:40.22 | kneeki | lol |
| 21:41.37 | Tekkub | Lothaer, I'm looking at spending like $300 right now :P |
| 21:41.52 | Cide|celebrating | I like how he has a saved image |
| 21:42.01 | Cide|celebrating | with the title "THE BEAST" |
| 21:42.14 | Lothaer | thats what its called in the mag |
| 21:42.30 | Cide|celebrating | and you scanned it just to tell people on the internet |
| 21:42.49 | Lunessa | Is Cide|celebrating with liquor today? |
| 21:42.57 | Cide|celebrating | I curse the day you were born |
| 21:42.58 | Lothaer | theres The Beast, The Beastie and a few lower budget options |
| 21:43.05 | Cide|celebrating | bonus points for recognizing the movie |
| 21:43.11 | Cide|celebrating | Lunessa: I wish |
| 21:43.15 | Tekkub | I'll settle for "the fuzzy bastard" |
| 21:43.21 | Cide|celebrating | wrong |
| 21:43.27 | Cide|celebrating | Cairenn? |
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| 21:43.56 | Cairenn | Cide|celebrating: ? |
| 21:44.08 | Cide|celebrating | <Cide|celebrating> I curse the day you were born <Cide|celebrating> bonus points for recognizing the movie |
| 21:44.15 | Cairenn | ah |
| 21:44.38 | Lothaer | its a rescent title me thinks, chick flick |
| 21:44.45 | Amarande | WHAT?! |
| 21:44.48 | Amarande | Screw you, 3.0.3 |
| 21:44.55 | Lothaer | what? |
| 21:45.07 | Amarande | Loth: paladins and warlocks now get their epic ground mount FROM THE TRAINER. |
| 21:45.17 | Amarande | *shakes head mightily* |
| 21:45.26 | Lothaer | Druids get Epic Flight Form at the trainer at lvl 71 |
| 21:45.27 | kd3 | druids get epic flying at 71 too |
| 21:45.30 | Amarande | waiting two weeks for a scholo group IS PART OF THE EXPERIENCE |
| 21:45.33 | Amarande | growl |
| 21:45.46 | Amarande | heh, that's gonna make ravenlord even rarer isn't it? |
| 21:45.52 | Lothaer | yup yup |
| 21:45.58 | Amarande | I'm assuming that you won't be allowed to do the quest if you already have the form from the trainer? |
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| 21:46.15 | Lothaer | on the other hand The Barons mount now has a 1/100 drop chance |
| 21:46.23 | Amarande | or is the quest being removed entirely? |
| 21:46.32 | Lothaer | no idea |
| 21:46.37 | Amarande | Loth: wow, that makes the TK mount actually easier to get doesn't it? |
| 21:46.49 | Amarande | I think I heard something like 4/100 for Ashes, but I could be mistaken |
| 21:46.56 | Lothaer | i was refering to the Strath mount |
| 21:47.06 | Amarande | four times as likely and you won't need more than 10-15 to do TK at 80 I presume |
| 21:47.14 | Amarande | then again, you can solo Strath at 80, heh |
| 21:47.24 | Lothaer | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11675537865&pageNo=5&sid=1#81 |
| 21:47.28 | Amarande | so are the old mount quests still in, or are they being removed entirely? |
| 21:47.36 | kamdis | you can solo strath now |
| 21:47.44 | Amarande | kamdis: class dependent, I'd say |
| 21:47.48 | Amarande | unless you really have high end gear |
| 21:48.03 | kamdis | True. Just saying, it can be done. |
| 21:48.11 | Lothaer | lol lots of flames in that thread |
| 21:49.13 | Lothaer | hell u can solo Ony at 70 now :D |
| 21:49.13 | Tuller | random idea that popped into my head: state based bar layouts |
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| 21:49.13 | Lunessa | No more Ony attunement. this is luff. |
| 21:49.13 | Pheredhel | what would be faster in lua? push/pop on a table (at the and, so as a stack) or traversing multi level tables |
| 21:49.58 | alestane | Pheredhel: For what application? |
| 21:50.09 | Tuller | yeah, what are you trying to do? |
| 21:50.19 | Amarande | Lunessa: that's bad |
| 21:50.25 | Amarande | Ony attunement chain is one of the more win and awesome chains in the game |
| 21:50.31 | Amarande | now no one will do it :| |
| 21:50.44 | Lothaer | lol |
| 21:50.44 | Lunessa | No one can. At least alliance side. |
| 21:50.50 | Lothaer | now people will do ony |
| 21:50.53 | Amarande | in any case, do the old dreadsteed/charger quests still exist on the ptr or are they out entirely? |
| 21:51.05 | Pheredhel | well the question is, should i do formal logic in upn ( a list) or on a muti level table (tree like) |
| 21:51.09 | Lothaer | what dreadsteed quest? |
| 21:51.12 | Amarande | like apparently the old level 40 mount quests are out entirely long ago |
| 21:51.17 | Lothaer | O |
| 21:51.21 | alestane | AFAIK, the quests to get your journeyman-level mount are still in place for warlocks and paladins. |
| 21:51.22 | Amarande | (what -was- the warlock level 40 mount quest, anyway?) |
| 21:51.22 | Lothaer | u mean the lock/paladin quest |
| 21:51.31 | Lothaer | there wasnt one |
| 21:51.41 | Lothaer | it was goto trainer and say GIMME GIMME GIMME |
| 21:51.42 | Amarande | more to the point: |
| 21:51.47 | alestane | Amarande: At level 40/30, the only quest was to go and talk to a particular person. |
| 21:51.57 | Amarande | is the trainer price for dreadsteed/charger high enough to make it still possibly worthwhile to do the quest? |
| 21:52.02 | alestane | They dropped those quests when mounts went level 30. |
| 21:52.14 | Tuller | formal logic on a list seems more natural to me |
| 21:52.27 | Tuller | assuming I have any idea about what you're talking about |
| 21:52.29 | Lothaer | wouldnt it be great if those mounts were made availabe to all classes |
| 21:52.56 | Amarande | and do druids still have to buy epic flying before they can buy epic flight form in beta? |
| 21:52.59 | alestane | I haven't seen that the lock/pally epci mounts are trainable. |
| 21:53.06 | Amarande | or do they get to save the thousands of gold now when they buy the skill |
| 21:53.13 | Lothaer | get epic skill |
| 21:53.18 | Lothaer | then u can get the ability |
| 21:53.31 | Pheredhel | Tuller: yes, but to evaluate it I need a stack, so is table.insert table.remove faster than the lookups in the tree structure? |
| 21:53.31 | Lothaer | u need to be lvl 70 AND have 300 riding |
| 21:53.42 | Lothaer | i mean 71 |
| 21:54.05 | Amarande | and are you forbidden to start the quest chain if you buy the mount from trainer? |
| 21:54.22 | Tuller | my _gut_ says lookups are faster :P |
| 21:54.24 | Amarande | like if the druid buys epic flight from trainer, they can no longer do an anzu for someone to get a chance at raven lord? |
| 21:54.31 | alestane | Amarande: Where did you get this concept that you can train the epic mounts? |
| 21:54.43 | Pheredhel | so would be the tree structure then... |
| 21:54.49 | Amarande | (or is it more likely, that they can basically keep abandoning and regetting the Anzu quest over and over to give people INFINITE shots at raven lord without any cost to them ...) |
| 21:54.54 | Amarande | alestane: 3.0.3 patch notes |
| 21:55.06 | Pheredhel | the question is: how do i compile my input data to optimize it |
| 21:55.14 | Amarande | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_3.0.3 |
| 21:55.43 | Amarande | woohoo, SL is being un-nerfed |
| 21:56.32 | Amarande | hmm |
| 21:56.40 | Amarande | trying to figure out if retadins are being addressed at all :| |
| 21:56.54 | alestane | Okay. Mostlikely they will be fairly inexpensive. The point behind the expense and challenge of those mounts was that it gave you somethign to strive for at level 60. |
| 21:57.12 | Amarande | alestane: it also gives you a reason to drag people to Scholomance |
| 21:57.18 | Amarande | which is major :( now |
| 21:57.29 | Amarande | because Scholomance is one of the awesomest dungeons ever made in WoW and now it really will be deserted |
| 21:57.41 | Amarande | simply atmosphere-wise, there's really nothing like it |
| 21:57.44 | Amarande | kara, to a degree, but not quite |
| 21:57.44 | kd3 | aw |
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| 21:58.17 | kd3 | if they were removed I don't think I'd mind |
| 21:58.21 | alestane | People will do it if they want to do it. If they just want to level, they will ignore it and go to Outland. You can't make people do things just because they're cool. |
| 21:58.38 | Amarande | alestane: that was the problem with BC, hopefully WOTLK will address it to a degree :) |
| 21:58.53 | Amarande | the problem with BC was that the rewards from dungeons that suck were much better than the ones for dungeons that were awesome |
| 21:59.03 | Amarande | as a result, people mostly did dungeons that suck |
| 21:59.29 | mikma | jebus christ! |
| 21:59.35 | mikma | Stormpike Perfection |
| 22:00.06 | cladhaire | ? |
| 22:00.12 | alestane | I'm moderately annoyed, though, because my pally is halfway through the epic mount chain, meaning she's spent all the money. |
| 22:00.27 | Amarande | alestane: and now you'll never get a group for strat to finish it? |
| 22:00.31 | Amarande | or are you alliance and need scholo? |
| 22:00.52 | alestane | I need DM west and Scholo. I have a couple friends who might help me finish it before the patch goes live. |
| 22:01.11 | ZorbaTHut | alestane, remember that all the old dungeons are achievements now also |
| 22:01.21 | mikma | Stormpike Perfection!!! http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_102508_005935.jpg |
| 22:01.22 | ZorbaTHut | a friend and me have been blitzing through dungeons for the achievement points :) |
| 22:01.27 | mikma | cladhaire: ^----<< |
| 22:01.31 | alestane | Oh, I know. My warlock just got the ones for Strat and Scholo. |
| 22:02.26 | alestane | But not only did I spend the money for the quests, I'll still have to spend the money for riding skill unless I get this done ASAP. |
| 22:02.50 | ZorbaTHut | hrm. is the quest going away? |
| 22:03.12 | Amarande | Zorba: from what I hear? the quest is supposed to still be there, but hardly anyone will bother to do it |
| 22:03.16 | Amarande | especially if it's cheaper to pay a trainer |
| 22:03.35 | Amarande | (and it will be, especially for paladin charger where you need that damned pristine black diamond, I'm just glad I was with a group that didn't complain about me needing on it) |
| 22:03.38 | alestane | I'll probably get it done rather than take the chance. |
| 22:04.04 | ZorbaTHut | well, that's sort of my point though - if you want to do it, you can do the solo parts on your own, and grab an achievement group to help you with the rest |
| 22:04.15 | ZorbaTHut | as far as I know the quest doesn't require more than one person *with the quest* to trigger it. |
| 22:04.17 | Amarande | hmm |
| 22:04.21 | Amarande | from 3.0.3 patch notes: "The level requirements required to train gathering skills have been removed" |
| 22:04.23 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. See you all on Mondya. |
| 22:04.26 | Amarande | when did gathering skills have level requirements? |
| 22:04.29 | Amarande | not as far back as I can remember |
| 22:04.33 | ZorbaTHut | I believe it's referring to the first tier of them |
| 22:04.40 | ZorbaTHut | which I *think* had a requirement of level 5. |
| 22:04.48 | Amarande | meh |
| 22:04.59 | Amarande | it's not like most characters get to a profession trainer before then |
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| 22:05.07 | Amarande | hell, you're usually level 5 before you leave your baby baby area |
| 22:05.10 | Neuro_Medivh | they added them in 3.0.2 |
| 22:05.10 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's not exactly the most imporatant change |
| 22:05.12 | Amarande | let alone your starter zone |
| 22:05.41 | ZorbaTHut | someone probably just said "hey guys, why does the first tier require level 5 but the other tiers don't?" |
| 22:05.41 | Amarande | Neuro: ah that explains why I needed to be level 10 to train fishing to 150 |
| 22:05.41 | ZorbaTHut | and they said "oh heh we'll change that". |
| 22:05.41 | Amarande | although for fishing it might be wise to keep a level req |
| 22:05.48 | Amarande | because of slight balance concerns for lowbies |
| 22:06.18 | Amarande | fishing skill = weapon skill when wielding fishing rod as weapon. |
| 22:06.35 | Amarande | so if you have no level req on fishing at all ... you could have the weapon skill of a level 45 character as a level 1 |
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| 22:06.48 | Amarande | (which basically = critting almost everything in your starter zone right?) |
| 22:07.27 | Syzgyn | Weapon skill doesn't affect crit rate |
| 22:07.34 | Syzgyn | I dont think |
| 22:07.36 | Amarande | hmm, what *did* it affect, then? |
| 22:07.39 | ZorbaTHut | that would be pretty awesome |
| 22:07.44 | ZorbaTHut | syz, it certainly used to |
| 22:07.45 | Amarande | still, you could have 225 weapon skill as a level 1, anyway |
| 22:07.50 | ZorbaTHut | I had a 0% crit when using an untrained weapon |
| 22:08.06 | Amarande | though I don't know if it's possible to get your hands on any fishing poles that are strong enough for it to really matter |
| 22:08.14 | Syzgyn | Oh, so it does |
| 22:08.16 | Syzgyn | my bad |
| 22:08.20 | Amarande | (there a level req for STV fishing extravaganza? I can't remember now) |
| 22:08.38 | Syzgyn | No, but if you're < 40 its gonna be especially tough |
| 22:09.18 | Amarande | yeah, and the arcanite fishing pole has a de facto level 35 requirement anyway |
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| 22:09.51 | Amarande | my first thought was 'abuse of the arcanite fishing pole in 19WSG due to having the weapon skill of a 45' |
| 22:10.14 | ZorbaTHut | I have to admit, if I knew there was a bug that would lead to people wielding fishing poles in PvP, I'd leave it in until I could get some good screenshots. |
| 22:10.35 | Amarande | Zorba: the groundwork for such an abuse exists, but there really aren't any fishing poles good enough for it to happen |
| 22:10.47 | ZorbaTHut | it's a pity :( |
| 22:10.48 | Neuro_Medivh | new build on beta? |
| 22:10.50 | Amarande | like I said, Fishing skill IS used as your weapon skill when wielding a pole |
| 22:11.05 | Amarande | but at low levels, the best dps on a fishing pole is like 5.something from the strong fishing pole |
| 22:11.26 | Amarande | so it's really only that helpful for lowbie casters in their starter zone (when you still need to melee a fair bit even on a caster) |
| 22:11.30 | ZorbaTHut | maybe if there was a level 9 pvp bracket |
| 22:12.58 | Shirik | for no good reason other than Cide is celebrating |
| 22:13.28 | Amarande | Zorba: or if there wasn't a fishing requirement on the arcanite pole |
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| 22:14.07 | Amarande | since I'm pretty sure you can win the extravaganza at level 1 (if you have guildies clearing the mobs for you, and assuming you're on a version of WoW where the gathering level requirements aren't in) |
| 22:15.32 | Amarande | on the other hand, who would wield it? |
| 22:15.36 | Amarande | retadins, I guess heh |
| 22:15.54 | Amarande | of course, these days a retadin can win in PvP wielding a fishing pole ANYWAY lol |
| 22:16.27 | kamdis | ~hug |Jelly| |
| 22:16.28 | purl | ACTION jumps into |Jelly|'s lap and huggles and *hugs* |Jelly| |
| 22:16.50 | |Jelly| | ~hug Kamdis |
| 22:16.51 | purl | ACTION hugs Kamdis tightly until Kamdis turns slightly blue |
| 22:17.25 | |Jelly| | How are you today? |
| 22:17.28 | Shirik | halp |
| 22:17.30 | Shirik | should I go to panera? |
| 22:17.36 | |Jelly| | yais |
| 22:17.38 | Shirik | batbot: Should I go to panera? |
| 22:17.38 | batbot | Shirik, Most likely. |
| 22:18.21 | Amarande | gah, I hate trick or treating |
| 22:18.35 | Amarande | my mage keeps getting either toothpicks, cat form, or a ninja costume :| |
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| 22:20.30 | KarlKFI | Panera Bread? |
| 22:20.52 | kamdis | |Jelly| I'm good thanks. :) |
| 22:21.20 | alestane | Amarande: [[ Removed âA Mask for All Occassionsâ as criteria for the âHallowed Be thy Nameâ meta achievement. ]] |
| 22:22.03 | |Jelly| | Good to hear :) |
| 22:22.27 | Amarande | hmm |
| 22:22.32 | Amarande | I might be able to get that one then :) |
| 22:22.45 | Amarande | ... if I can somehow on my low level mage manage to get the HH related achievements |
| 22:22.45 | Amarande | hmm |
| 22:22.49 | Amarande | what's the lowest level to zone into SM? |
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| 22:23.14 | Shirik | KarlKFI: yes |
| 22:23.25 | |Jelly| | I had a 23 in Cath the other night |
| 22:23.31 | Shirik | My favorite place to eat because it has the three necessities |
| 22:23.31 | Shirik | 1) Food |
| 22:23.31 | Shirik | 2) Drink |
| 22:23.32 | Shirik | 3) Internet |
| 22:23.42 | KarlKFI | free interwebs? |
| 22:23.48 | Shirik | free interwebs. |
| 22:23.53 | Shirik | complete with tubes. |
| 22:23.54 | Amarande | hmm, 20 |
| 22:24.06 | Amarande | so, I guess I get two achievements by getting to 20 and then WTB SM HH run :) |
| 22:24.06 | KarlKFI | i was there with my sis a couple days ago, so i wasn't rly using my iphone. didn't notice |
| 22:24.21 | Amarande | do you get a summon with a level 20 by the way or can only 70's do that? |
| 22:25.24 | kd3 | minlevel 65 |
| 22:25.38 | Amarande | any idea what the usual going rate to hire a HH run is? |
| 22:26.15 | Amarande | I figure at this point I should be much more likely to get the pet and helm, too |
| 22:26.21 | Amarande | seeing as so many people most likely have them already :) |
| 22:26.42 | KarlKFI | hire me, i haven't gone yet |
| 22:26.54 | KarlKFI | you'll just have to transfer to my server first |
| 22:26.59 | Amarande | Karl, do you have a character on Quel'dorei Horde :) |
| 22:27.23 | KarlKFI | and find a good doctor to perform a Faction Change |
| 22:27.25 | mikma | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=318da345ea740cd330e322725374f150&topic=22958 |
| 22:27.27 | Cide|celebrating | Shirik: I'm celebrating a victory |
| 22:27.29 | mikma | best post, ever. |
| 22:27.43 | Cide|celebrating | Shirik: we concluded that sweden is superior |
| 22:27.48 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:27.51 | mikma | no, no! |
| 22:27.53 | mikma | sweden sucks |
| 22:27.56 | mikma | ask conan o'brien. |
| 22:28.15 | Shirik | is there cake? |
| 22:28.22 | Cide|celebrating | "Swedish women want to have sex more often / 70% of Sweden's women had an orgasm last week" |
| 22:28.25 | Pheredhel | it's a lie if there is |
| 22:28.27 | Cide|celebrating | from a study |
| 22:28.31 | mikma | http://www.backpacking.se/grfx/MemberPictures/sweden_sucks3.jpg |
| 22:28.36 | mikma | believe conan! |
| 22:28.43 | Cide|celebrating | conan is pro |
| 22:29.10 | Shirik | no cake? :( |
| 22:29.11 | Shirik | fine |
| 22:29.25 | Cide | you may still celebrate |
| 22:29.29 | Cide | my nick was just too long |
| 22:29.32 | Shirik | not without cake |
| 22:31.57 | |Jelly| | Shirik... |
| 22:32.00 | |Jelly| | The cake is a lie. |
| 22:32.05 | Shirik | I know that now! |
| 22:32.10 | Shirik | Cide tricked me into celebrating with him :( |
| 22:32.17 | |Jelly| | What a jerk. |
| 22:33.19 | Amarande | yes, the cake is indeed a lie |
| 22:33.25 | Amarande | I've been doing the thrice-damned cooking dailies since AUGUST |
| 22:33.34 | Amarande | I've gotten stormchops, but not cake :| |
| 22:34.01 | |Jelly| | [17:31]<|Jelly|>The cake is a lie. |
| 22:35.37 | Amarande | BTW, anyone know if achievement progress transfers properly when you move between realms? |
| 22:35.39 | kamdis | The cake isn't worth it anyway |
| 22:35.50 | |Jelly| | ...the pie on the other hand |
| 22:35.53 | Dashkal | Eh, it's worth it once for the 10 points :p |
| 22:35.57 | kamdis | is tasty deliciousness |
| 22:36.09 | Amarande | Dash, I almost thought you were going to say transferring gets you 10 points |
| 22:36.13 | kamdis | you people and your achievement mania |
| 22:36.26 | kamdis | things like that make me go, "meh, whatever." |
| 22:36.30 | Dashkal | Amarande: :p |
| 22:36.33 | kd3 | 2615 points and counting... |
| 22:36.45 | Dashkal | kamdis: It's something to do when bored. |
| 22:36.55 | Dashkal | The only ones I put _real_ work into are for titles and tabards I want |
| 22:37.14 | kamdis | i'm never that bored |
| 22:37.19 | Dashkal | example, next year My Death Knight will work is ass off for hallows end so I can enjoy the irony of a "Hallowed" Death Knight |
| 22:37.40 | kamdis | the only ones i care about are the ones i know i should have credit for but don't because i sharded equipment |
| 22:37.43 | kamdis | or whatever |
| 22:37.55 | kamdis | or did they not implement that |
| 22:37.59 | kamdis | like Rag |
| 22:38.00 | Dashkal | The rest is just something to do that's more entertaining than doing IQD _again_ |
| 22:38.22 | Dashkal | They implemented retroactive based on quests and gear. If you sharded the only proof, you're boned. |
| 22:38.33 | kamdis | right, so that i care about |
| 22:38.41 | kamdis | so i'll be sure to go back and kill the *(&^(*& |
| 22:38.48 | kamdis | because he made my life hell for so long |
| 22:38.51 | Dashkal | :p |
| 22:39.15 | Dashkal | Oh, I also make a point of not missing feats of strength if I can predict them (blue brewfest mug) |
| 22:39.35 | ZorbaTHut | I missed a really tough feat of strength by like three days |
| 22:39.45 | ZorbaTHut | I'm moderately pissed about that. I may have to go back and do it again. twice. |
| 22:40.12 | Dashkal | My feats are pretty trivial, but I'll keep collecting them as I can. Best one I have is 'Private' (proof of age) |
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| 22:40.26 | Xuerian | Dashkal: Same. |
| 22:40.45 | Xuerian | Dashkal: I think Xinhuan has almost every one of us in this channel with achievements he (should) have |
| 22:40.58 | Dashkal | Oh absolutely |
| 22:41.06 | alestane | "Sergeant", "Clockwork Rocket Bot" and "Big Blizzard Bear". |
| 22:41.14 | Dashkal | But yeah, I'm not _that_ bored :p |
| 22:41.19 | Amarande | Dashkal: retroactive's a little buggy, anyway, too |
| 22:41.21 | Xinhuan | 3465 points |
| 22:41.23 | Amarande | for instance, if you did a heroic daily |
| 22:41.24 | Dashkal | Private, Clockwork, Brewfest '07 and '08 |
| 22:41.25 | Xinhuan | i've yet to see someone higher than me |
| 22:41.29 | Amarande | you only get credit for that boss on REGULAR |
| 22:41.35 | Amarande | even though by definition you had to have done it on heroic |
| 22:41.51 | Dashkal | Amarande: if you did a heroic daily there was no proof at all (dailies aren't recorded) |
| 22:41.58 | Amarande | Xinhuan: how many achievement points are there, total? |
| 22:42.02 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 22:42.03 | Amarande | Dashkal: there was proof apparently |
| 22:42.06 | Xinhuan | i have 16 feats of strength lol |
| 22:42.17 | Amarande | since I had never -been- to Auchenai Crypts, outside of that one heroic daily |
| 22:42.20 | Dashkal | Amarande: to get retroactive credit you'd need a drop off of the heroic loot table |
| 22:42.27 | Amarande | but I got only normal Auchenai Crypts credit |
| 22:42.30 | Dashkal | if you got a piece from the normal... |
| 22:42.37 | Amarande | hmm |
| 22:42.41 | Amarande | I'm trying to think if I *got* anything |
| 22:42.45 | Xinhuan | u got normal credit because of a quest |
| 22:42.45 | Amarande | except maybe a primal nether |
| 22:42.57 | Amarande | ah yes, I did the other auchenai crypts quest alongside that |
| 22:43.03 | Dashkal | Amarande: an unrelated quest that requires dropping the end boss would do it to |
| 22:43.07 | Dashkal | there you go |
| 22:43.08 | |Jelly| | The plague is getting god damned annoying. |
| 22:43.16 | Xuerian | |Jelly|: I believe that's the point |
| 22:43.18 | ZorbaTHut | the plague is getting awesome |
| 22:43.20 | Amarande | Jelly: I've heard the argent healers are starting to disappear, too |
| 22:43.27 | Dashkal | Tonight I'm gonna go nomming ;) |
| 22:43.29 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, some of them are getting killed |
| 22:43.32 | |Jelly| | The point is to kill every useful NPC in Shatt? |
| 22:43.35 | |Jelly| | ... |
| 22:43.38 | Xuerian | It's the motherfucking plague |
| 22:43.44 | Xuerian | What do you expect? Snakes? |
| 22:43.45 | Amarande | Xuerian: there's 'fun' and then there's 'by the end of the halloween event, the game will be unplayable until November 13th' |
| 22:43.50 | Dashkal | The point is our little working world is getting ripped to hell by a decistating plague... |
| 22:44.02 | Xuerian | Amarande: You're in a game world. This IS the game world. |
| 22:44.07 | |Jelly| | The point is it's fucking annoying. |
| 22:44.08 | mikma | if someone here is Fear Factory fan (the band), have a look at this Demoscene invitation: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=10 |
| 22:44.08 | alestane | I suspect the event will keep progressing in some way. |
| 22:44.14 | Xuerian | If anything, it's more the game world than the game mostly ever is |
| 22:44.22 | Dashkal | Then stay logged out for a week or so (they've mentioned that the plague's duration is in days) |
| 22:44.23 | Xuerian | So I sit here and laugh at anyone who gets pissed at it |
| 22:44.29 | Amarande | or is Blizzard -trying- to make the game unplayable, so that we'll take a couple weeks off from WoW |
| 22:44.53 | Amarande | so they can, perhaps, do super-extended maintenance required things like physically upgrade the servers to entirely new machines to handle the huge influx on Nov 13 |
| 22:45.06 | ZorbaTHut | I think they're just trying to make something awesome that people will talk about. |
| 22:45.07 | Amarande | the kind that gives "all realms will be down for scheduled maintenance for 2-3 days" messages |
| 22:45.19 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, seriously, "hey do you remember when all of World of Warcraft was invaded by zombies?" |
| 22:45.20 | Xuerian | Not to mention this is similar to how it was when bc came out, same as the patch problems |
| 22:45.23 | ZorbaTHut | that would be sweet. |
| 22:46.05 | Xuerian | I think it's hilarious - if annoying - that people complain that the servers have trouble when there's a huge patch.. Especially if they've been through one |
| 22:46.06 | Amarande | the point is, people in starter areas are complaining that they can't even get their lowbies off the ground because people are killing quest npcs with the plague |
| 22:46.11 | Dashkal | I have a strange vanilla UI issue... the server MOTD in the chat box doesn't appear until the first message. The guild MOTD appears above it |
| 22:46.22 | Amarande | I got super fucking lucky the other night in that regard |
| 22:46.27 | Xuerian | Amarande: Welcome to the plague, I assume you're familiar with the lore? *that* is the point |
| 22:46.41 | Amarande | I somehow managed to get back to town in Eversong to turn in my quests just AFTER the people spreading plague had gotten tired of it. |
| 22:46.57 | foxlit | Amarande: lowbies should stop whining, really. Those NPCs respawn faster than breeding hamsters. |
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| 22:47.23 | Amarande | Yeah, STV is probably the hardest hit zone |
| 22:47.29 | Amarande | and that's not till 30+ |
| 22:47.38 | Xuerian | People on the forums got it right: This is the plague. It's that simple. IT IS THE PLAGUE. Get people together to fight it.. make safe zones, whatnot |
| 22:47.40 | Amarande | STV is decimated because a) it's neutral, so both factions go there |
| 22:47.55 | Amarande | b) not only this, but not only is there the plague thing, there's the fact that BB goblins just got an achievement-based bounty on their head |
| 22:48.32 | Shirik | Hey everyone, random request |
| 22:48.33 | |Jelly| | Xuerian: Clearly you've never been on my server. |
| 22:48.34 | Amarande | I hope these people enjoy getting their goblin rep back up to snuff for the exalted-factions achievements though LOL |
| 22:48.44 | Shirik | If you all wouldn't mind, we'd like to pressure Cairenn into writing up her story some more for blizzcon |
| 22:48.47 | Shirik | Thanks :) |
| 22:48.58 | Xuerian | |Jelly|: You can't hear me, but I'm saying it really slowly: Pllllaaaaaggueeeee |
| 22:48.59 | Cairenn | I'll get to it :p |
| 22:49.04 | Amarande | Let's see, anything you can *kill* to get goblin rep back up, will probably give like, one rep point at 70 (which you are, if you're butchering BB) |
| 22:49.20 | Amarande | You need 42,000 rep points before you can even TALK to a goblin again after that. |
| 22:49.31 | Amarande | which means you get to grind 42,000 mobs before you can even do things like the wastewander water pouch turnins :) |
| 22:49.46 | Dashkal | If you're gonna do the bloodsail admiral achievement and want gob rep back, stock up on the cloth first |
| 22:49.57 | Amarande | And currently, you need both pirate AND steamwheedle at exalted to get the 40 exalted achievement |
| 22:50.11 | Amarande | as if this wasn't bad enough, you need to also grind exalted off of a centaur clan ... LOL |
| 22:50.25 | Dashkal | is that possible? I thought those reps were capped at honored |
| 22:50.38 | Amarande | well, without centaurs apparently you can get only 39 |
| 22:50.41 | mikma | also, goa-fans! http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7766 |
| 22:50.43 | mikma | yummy |
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| 22:51.04 | Amarande | because once you have 39, all remaining factions not exalted other than the centaurs will be at 0/36000 hated due to being ME with one of the ones you exalted |
| 22:51.50 | Amarande | hmm, the centaurs are capped at honored |
| 22:51.59 | Amarande | is there a 40th faction anywhere, or is 39 the most possible before LK? |
| 22:52.03 | Xinhuan | 39 is max |
| 22:52.10 | Gngsk | How do I find the ID of a macro? |
| 22:52.18 | Amarande | I saw the screenie with the guy who had almost everything exalted |
| 22:52.28 | Xinhuan | i have 34 exalted, working on regrinding 4 goblin reps to exalted (i destryed it) |
| 22:52.30 | Amarande | he had 38, and the only thing I can think of to exalt that he hasn't already would be to get one more point with the pirates |
| 22:52.35 | Xinhuan | and i have darkmoon on near revered |
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| 22:53.24 | Amarande | Xinhuan: does regrinding with the goblins in fact require ~30,000-40,000 individual mob kills? |
| 22:53.29 | Xinhuan | no |
| 22:53.32 | Xinhuan | just go dire maul |
| 22:53.34 | Amarande | (since you can't do any turn ins until neutral) |
| 22:53.36 | Xinhuan | find keys and turn in stuff |
| 22:54.55 | Xinhuan | keep in mind i was max exalted with all 4, took 6 hours to get friendly with pirates from there lol |
| 22:55.15 | Amarande | the real fun is if you want to be exalted with both steamwheedle AND the pirates |
| 22:55.24 | kamdis | Did you get Shen'dralar to exalted too? |
| 22:55.27 | Xinhuan | pirates is impossile |
| 22:55.29 | Xinhuan | shendaral is easy |
| 22:55.31 | Xinhuan | way easier |
| 22:55.34 | Xinhuan | than 4 goblins |
| 22:55.38 | kamdis | well yeah, just time and librams |
| 22:55.41 | kamdis | just wondering |
| 22:56.16 | Amarande | Xinhuan: actually yeah you can get exalted with both pirates and steamwheedle |
| 22:56.27 | Xinhuan | u can, but practically speaking you can't |
| 22:56.43 | Xinhuan | go try killing 42000 mobs of 1 mob that has a 5 min respawn timer |
| 22:56.46 | Xinhuan | that's 72 days. |
| 22:56.59 | Xinhuan | if u play 8 hours a day instead of 24 hours, that's 216 days |
| 22:57.02 | Amarande | Xinhuan: you could do the Dire Maul one too, though |
| 22:57.05 | Xinhuan | just camping a mob |
| 22:57.28 | Xinhuan | only one person in the world reached 11999/12000 |
| 22:57.28 | Amarande | the DM one doesn't lower pirate rep, and gives 350 to all steamwheedle each time |
| 22:57.34 | Xinhuan | sorry i mean 20999/21000 |
| 22:57.36 | Xinhuan | he took 8 months |
| 22:57.53 | mikma | anyone who haven't seen http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7766 should go and watch it :D |
| 22:57.58 | Xinhuan | and keep in mind, that's 8 months of doing nothing, no instancing, no nothing |
| 22:58.01 | Xinhuan | but camping a mob |
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| 22:58.07 | Xinhuan | for 12 hours a day |
| 22:58.09 | Amarande | actually, it looks like you can use any source of steamwheedle rep EXCEPT killing pirates or the cloth turnin to get your rep back up with them without ruining your pirate rep |
| 22:58.25 | Amarande | though it would be nice if even exalted booty bay guards would try to kill you if you had the pirate hat on |
| 22:58.36 | Xinhuan | i think you missed my point completely - its not feasible to even try exalted with pirates |
| 22:58.39 | Xuerian | mikma: Old but good |
| 22:58.45 | Xinhuan | so there is little reason to try to maintain Friendly with pirates |
| 22:58.50 | Amarande | kinda like the way Ordinator armor worked in Morrowind |
| 22:58.56 | Amarande | Xinhuan: My GM *HAS A PIRATE HAT* |
| 22:59.01 | Amarande | and the title to go with it too |
| 22:59.03 | Xinhuan | err so do i? |
| 22:59.16 | Xinhuan | and about 500 ppl on my server |
| 22:59.16 | Amarande | you have to be exalted with pirates for that |
| 22:59.20 | Xinhuan | no you don't |
| 22:59.24 | Xinhuan | you only need Friendly |
| 22:59.30 | Xinhuan | for the title, hat and all |
| 22:59.34 | Xinhuan | then u can destroy your rep |
| 23:00.07 | Amarande | so ... 20999/21000 |
| 23:00.11 | Amarande | is it even possible to get the last point? |
| 23:00.24 | Amarande | or is it hardcapped? |
| 23:01.08 | mikma | amarande: piratehat |
| 23:01.08 | Xinhuan | nobody knows |
| 23:01.09 | Xinhuan | speculation says that only if you didn't complete your quest for the hat |
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| 23:01.12 | Xinhuan | can that push u over 2099 |
| 23:01.12 | Xinhuan | 20999 |
| 23:01.13 | Xinhuan | since the hat quest gives 500 |
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| 23:01.13 | Xinhuan | and the constume quest gives 50 |
| 23:01.13 | Amarande | yeah, I was gonna say, the guy who has 20999 could just kill one more gob :) |
| 23:01.13 | Xinhuan | you'll be at best 549/999 |
| 23:01.26 | mikma | amarande: err, piratehat? |
| 23:01.26 | Xinhuan | he can't |
| 23:01.26 | Xinhuan | its capped there |
| 23:01.29 | Amarande | Xin: do the exalted achievements require you to have 999 exalted or will 0/999 exalted do? |
| 23:01.37 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6425613199&sid=1 <-i must say |
| 23:01.38 | Xinhuan | 0 |
| 23:01.49 | Fisker- | there's something with that story that i don't believe |
| 23:01.53 | Fisker- | i just can't put my finger on it |
| 23:01.53 | Xinhuan | my point is, there is little reason to TRY to do it |
| 23:01.57 | kamdis | man, can you imagine? all that time and you finally FINALLY are on the last kill, and your bar doesn't move. I'd throw my computer out the window. |
| 23:02.03 | Xinhuan | because it takes 8 months of 12 hours a day of camping a mob |
| 23:02.03 | Amarande | thought so, since my shaman has credit for one exalted already and has only like 400 or so exalted with Darnassus |
| 23:02.14 | Tekkub | I have this sudden urge to roll a lock just so I can name him Dippindots |
| 23:02.19 | Amarande | kamdis: FAIL |
| 23:02.22 | Amarande | no wait |
| 23:02.24 | Amarande | that's ARTIFACT FAIL |
| 23:02.39 | Amarande | Epic and even legendary don't begin to describe that kind of fail :) |
| 23:03.11 | kamdis | Tekkub lol |
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| 23:04.36 | mikma | xuerian: http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7138 <3 |
| 23:04.53 | Amarande | hmm, I'm not logged into STV to check |
| 23:04.59 | Amarande | did they bump the booty bay guards up to 77? |
| 23:05.30 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:06.12 | Lyn | anyone knows a small addon which does prowl bar paging for blizzard bars? |
| 23:06.17 | Lyn | i miss that... |
| 23:06.58 | Amarande | hmm. |
| 23:07.03 | Amarande | wonder which grind was harder |
| 23:07.09 | Xuerian | mikma: Vista fail |
| 23:07.09 | Amarande | the guy who ground to 20999 revered bloodsail |
| 23:07.17 | Amarande | or the guy who managed to get exalted with exodar before BC was out |
| 23:07.21 | mikma | xuerian: damnit =/ |
| 23:07.22 | Xinhuan | .... |
| 23:07.24 | Xinhuan | obviously the former |
| 23:07.30 | Xuerian | mikma: mp3 works though |
| 23:07.30 | End | AV isn't that hard |
| 23:07.31 | Xinhuan | getting exodar to exalted only took 5 days |
| 23:07.36 | Xinhuan | before TBC was out |
| 23:07.43 | Xinhuan | i'm one of those ppl |
| 23:08.02 | mikma | xuerian: find a xp, thats an awesome product |
| 23:08.12 | mikma | the music will tell it also |
| 23:08.13 | Xinhuan | i think you need to do some serious research about how hard rep is to grind, and/or how to grind them |
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| 23:08.26 | Xuerian | mikma: Wonder if it'd run in virtualbox... |
| 23:08.33 | Xinhuan | it'll take at most 1 week to grind all 5 city factions to exalted looting storm crystals, 5 per 20 rep to all 5 |
| 23:08.39 | Lyn | mikma :< |
| 23:08.44 | Xinhuan | i just looted 476 of them in 1 game earlier |
| 23:08.47 | Xuerian | What was it back there, DX7? DX8? |
| 23:08.53 | mikma | lyn: hai shark |
| 23:08.57 | Xinhuan | although you can only turn in 200 |
| 23:10.29 | Lyn | mikma, do you know something like paging for prowl for blizzard bars? |
| 23:10.46 | Lyn | and how do i use mangle - cat in a macro? "Mangle" doesnt work and "Mangle - Cat" shows icon but i cant use macro :< |
| 23:10.50 | mikma | lyn: humm no actually, :P |
| 23:11.07 | Amarande | heh this level 14 in ghostlands is trying to get a group of other similar leveleds for knucklerot and luzran |
| 23:11.09 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:11.09 | mikma | lyn: Mangle - Cat() ? |
| 23:11.12 | Lyn | mh |
| 23:11.14 | Amarande | I keep trying to explain to him how hit rating works ... *sigh* |
| 23:11.50 | kamdis | just let him try, then laugh at him |
| 23:12.05 | Lyn | mikma, no macro using a spell works for me :/ awtf |
| 23:12.35 | mikma | lyn: are you sure you don't have some kind of addon that taints macros? |
| 23:12.52 | Lyn | mh.. no |
| 23:12.56 | Lyn | i dont have one |
| 23:13.11 | mikma | so /cast Shred won't work either? |
| 23:13.51 | alestane | Macros for mangel should be /cast Mangle (Cat)() or something of the sort. |
| 23:14.05 | kamdis | They were, they changed. |
| 23:14.12 | mikma | lyn: what alestane said might be 100% accurate |
| 23:14.21 | kamdis | Feral Charge - Cat(), Mangle - Bear(), etc. |
| 23:14.23 | alestane | Go for the shift-click if they changed. |
| 23:14.24 | Lyn | mh i'll try it |
| 23:14.47 | Amarande | hmm, I wonder if they're going to keep using ezra's crossbow model for the pvp crossbows at 80 |
| 23:14.56 | Lyn | funny is, i cant use rake inside a macro, too |
| 23:15.09 | Amarande | or if the poor kid will be remembered only by 61-70 bracket AV twinks once the 80 PvP stuff is out |
| 23:15.17 | Lyn | meh thought i could make a stealth/nostealth macro but that doesnt work -.- |
| 23:15.32 | Shirik | As cruel as this sounds, Amarande, nothing lasts forever |
| 23:16.12 | kamdis | shirik is wise. |
| 23:16.26 | Lyn | ah |
| 23:16.30 | Lyn | seems i had to relog |
| 23:16.32 | mikma | lyn: here's what i use with my druid |
| 23:16.33 | Shirik | did you voluntarily type that? |
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| 23:16.43 | kamdis | chalk that up to the new saving server side, Lyn. |
| 23:16.56 | Lyn | kamdis, yeah, seems i had to relog to get it work |
| 23:16.56 | Lyn | lol |
| 23:16.58 | kamdis | shirik: braaaaaaaainnnnnnnnns |
| 23:16.58 | mikma | lyn: /cast [noform:3] Cat Form; [nostealth] Prowl!; Track Humanoids |
| 23:17.14 | mikma | lyn: also, /cast [nostealth] Shred; Ravage |
| 23:17.19 | mikma | err |
| 23:17.23 | mikma | !Prowl :I |
| 23:17.25 | kamdis | the ! should come before Prowl, not after |
| 23:17.28 | kamdis | heh |
| 23:17.29 | kamdis | :P |
| 23:17.32 | Lyn | oO; |
| 23:17.38 | Lyn | what does the first macro do? |
| 23:17.39 | mikma | sorry my lua file is older than the macro ingame |
| 23:17.46 | mikma | lyn: panic-button for prowl! |
| 23:17.56 | Lyn | :o |
| 23:18.01 | mikma | first press = always shapeshifts you into cat |
| 23:18.06 | mikma | second press = prowl |
| 23:18.07 | kamdis | it casts cat unless you're in it, then prowl unless you're stealthed, otherwise track humanoids |
| 23:18.11 | mikma | third prowl = track humanoids |
| 23:18.17 | mikma | it's a bit more advanced ingame, wait a moment |
| 23:18.58 | mikma | #showtooltip Prowl |
| 23:19.02 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.30 | mikma | that adds shadowmeld into prowl, if you are in combat and want to disappear :) |
| 23:19.38 | bleeter | BBRRRAAAAIIINNNZZZZZ |
| 23:19.45 | mikma | BBRRRAAAAIIINNNZZZZZ |
| 23:19.58 | Lyn | hm |
| 23:20.00 | Lyn | meh |
| 23:20.32 | Lyn | amusing, when i'm in stealth, works, if i am out, nothing works |
| 23:20.43 | Lyn | but he shows icon etc |
| 23:20.45 | Lyn | -.- |
| 23:20.50 | Lyn | cooldown on it and stuff |
| 23:20.52 | Lyn | but cant click it |
| 23:21.17 | Shirik | aw, Lopeppeppy is meanie |
| 23:21.44 | Lyn | -.- |
| 23:21.51 | Shirik | noes, stop that! |
| 23:22.00 | kamdis | How do you have the macro bound (to what key[s]), Lyn? |
| 23:22.02 | Shirik | If you kill all the auctioneers, who's going to use Auctioneer? :( |
| 23:22.16 | mikma | lyn: uh,huh? |
| 23:22.18 | Lopeppeppy | I am such a mean old paladin! |
| 23:22.20 | Lyn | 2 and 3 |
| 23:22.22 | Lyn | -.- |
| 23:22.25 | Shirik | Priests > Paladins |
| 23:22.32 | kamdis | so it's on your main bar? |
| 23:22.35 | kamdis | hrm |
| 23:22.39 | kamdis | that's shoots my theory |
| 23:23.06 | Lopeppeppy | I'll totally kick your arse in Starcraft, Shirik. |
| 23:23.11 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 23:23.15 | Shirik | you proved that at blizzcon mhm |
| 23:23.17 | Lyn | meh |
| 23:23.23 | Amarande | yay |
| 23:23.28 | Amarande | people are QQing about knockback |
| 23:23.43 | mikma | amarande: <3 feral charge - cat :D |
| 23:23.44 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I had you on the ropes. I told you I wasn't playing serious. |
| 23:23.51 | Amarande | mikma: more like aoe knockback spells |
| 23:23.57 | Shirik | well, we'll just have to see when SC2 comes out, no? |
| 23:24.00 | kamdis | The only time I QQed about knockback was when they took away DK's ability to Death Grip you off a cliff with us. ;-) |
| 23:24.06 | Lopeppeppy | We'll see, Shirik. *grin* |
| 23:24.10 | Amarande | apparently, aoe knockback spells used by bad DPS in instance runs are ... fun |
| 23:24.14 | Amarande | by 'fun' |
| 23:24.19 | mikma | amarande: yeah, i had my share in pvp, and i used Feral Charge - Cat, to get back to them and continue nuking |
| 23:24.31 | Lyn | #showtooltip [nostealth] Rake; Pounce |
| 23:24.33 | Lyn | erm |
| 23:24.35 | Lyn | oops |
| 23:24.42 | Lyn | ./cast [nosteatlh] Rake; Pounce |
| 23:24.46 | Amarande | I mean 'people knocking mobs off the edge of something in an instance that has edges (*cough* almost anywhere in coilfang) and half the instance coming back up with them' :) |
| 23:24.49 | Lyn | ah |
| 23:24.50 | Lyn | i know |
| 23:24.51 | mikma | tpyo |
| 23:24.52 | Lyn | typo |
| 23:24.54 | Lyn | lol |
| 23:24.57 | Lyn | -.- |
| 23:25.09 | foxlit | Meh |
| 23:25.19 | Amarande | Fail pull is fail |
| 23:25.19 | mikma | lyn: also! /cast [stance:3] Dash; Cat Form |
| 23:25.27 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:25.30 | foxlit | You haven't seen "fun" until someone accidentally presses Starfall |
| 23:25.46 | Lyn | i like thunderstorm knockback |
| 23:25.50 | foxlit | That pulls everyone and their mothers from vacation homes on the other side of the instance. |
| 23:26.07 | mikma | lyn: ain't that shaman-talent? |
| 23:26.18 | Lyn | yep |
| 23:26.20 | Lyn | but loving knockback |
| 23:26.27 | Lyn | btw macro works know lol |
| 23:26.34 | mikma | lyn: and, again, Feral Charge - Cat back at them :D |
| 23:26.36 | Lyn | *now |
| 23:26.50 | Lyn | man, too much typos at that time |
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| 23:26.56 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:26.58 | mikma | it happens, quite alot |
| 23:27.03 | Lyn | yeah |
| 23:27.05 | mikma | so don't worry/be sad about it |
| 23:27.47 | mikma | i usually type something like: locall function haithere() :D |
| 23:28.07 | mikma | http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FMikma%2FDruid.lua |
| 23:28.14 | Amarande | fox: we're talking "I died while running a lowbie in RFC" kinda disasters there? :) |
| 23:28.20 | mikma | i once got bored recreating the macros over and over, but now i don't have to :D |
| 23:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | So now a group of 5 (me included) are chain-bombing the area in SW outside of the bank and AH |
| 23:29.07 | Lopeppeppy | And you called me evil. |
| 23:29.08 | mikma | scytheblade1: FUN! :D we did that with shattrath trainee's and the argent dawn healer at shattrath FP :D |
| 23:29.28 | Amarande | apparently shamans are having the most issue with being hated for the aoe knockback thing |
| 23:29.42 | Shirik | What permissions do I need to be able to chown? |
| 23:29.44 | Amarande | mainly because other than just barely from CL, they have no other AoE |
| 23:29.45 | Shirik | Or can only root do that? |
| 23:29.55 | Amarande | (well, magma/nova totem but ele shaman is going to be using wrath in the fire slot) |
| 23:30.07 | mikma | amarande: and if we believe industrial, they are quite the nukers now with elespec |
| 23:30.33 | Amarande | Shirik: 'In most implementations, it can only be executed by the Superuser.' |
| 23:30.42 | Shirik | bah |
| 23:30.45 | Shirik | bahbahbahbahbah |
| 23:30.51 | Amarande | Shirik: security reasons I imagine |
| 23:31.07 | Amarande | imagine an implementation that for some or other reason doesn't reset setuid bits when the owner is changed |
| 23:31.13 | Shirik | a valid point |
| 23:31.41 | Lyn | i accidentily choose the caster staff at the first quest |
| 23:31.48 | Amarande | Lyn: which quest? |
| 23:31.49 | Lyn | now i have still one with 40 ap instead of ~100 |
| 23:31.49 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:31.52 | Lyn | first hellfire q |
| 23:31.57 | Lyn | with killing some demons |
| 23:31.57 | Dashkal | Also it keeps you from "blaming" someone else for a file |
| 23:31.59 | Amarande | meh |
| 23:32.03 | Amarande | you'll replace that soon enough anyway |
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| 23:32.13 | Amarande | hell, if that's the quest I'm thinking of |
| 23:32.13 | Lyn | yeah but i still wear lvl 40 stuff |
| 23:32.15 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:32.18 | Amarande | even casters replace that staff BEFORE THEY EVEN LEAVE HELLFIRE |
| 23:32.19 | Amarande | lol |
| 23:32.25 | Amarande | at least on horde side |
| 23:32.26 | Lyn | i have ~630 ap |
| 23:32.27 | Lyn | :D |
| 23:32.36 | Amarande | because the quest chain with the mag'har gives an even better staff there |
| 23:32.46 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:33.00 | Lyn | and i also wear spelldmg stuff |
| 23:33.05 | Lyn | :< |
| 23:35.09 | Lyn | i hope i'll find a group for ramparts |
| 23:35.13 | Lyn | this staff there is nice |
| 23:38.31 | Industrial | Amarande: yeah ive been scalded all day for using my thunderstorm, but if you use it on packs of mobs.. ive seen numbers in the 20k. |
| 23:38.45 | Industrial | so i dont see why not, mobs run back anyway |
| 23:39.41 | Lyn | yes |
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| 23:39.50 | Dewin | well, just did 15 HH summons. We saw a mount. (yay) but no hallowed helm or squashlings. |
| 23:39.52 | Lyn | used it half hour ago in nefarian encounter |
| 23:40.08 | Lyn | i saw everything - but no mount :/ |
| 23:40.11 | Lyn | and no sword |
| 23:40.20 | Industrial | and the elemental spell rotation is basically, Chain Lightning, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt for me now because my LB cast is 1.8sec and 3.5sec cd for lb means i can cast 2 |
| 23:40.52 | Industrial | sucks cause you cant do that when people are sheeping mobs right next to the current dps target |
| 23:40.56 | Shirik | ok bai bai, time for foods |
| 23:41.07 | Lyn | haha, my LB is 1.65 :D |
| 23:41.14 | Industrial | Lyn: hate! |
| 23:41.17 | Lyn | <3 |
| 23:41.23 | Industrial | linky? :3 |
| 23:41.32 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Xamth |
| 23:41.41 | Lyn | wait.. have to get out of the mobs |
| 23:42.10 | Lyn | does warcrafter have new talents? |
| 23:42.12 | Neuro_Medivh | Any info on the new beta build? |
| 23:42.17 | Amarande | wow, someone named their blood elf originally |
| 23:42.18 | Dewin | Lyn: I've done about 50 summons. Seen maybe 7 squashlings, 1 sword, 2 of the plate helms, 1 hallowed helm (rolled a 1>.>) and 1 reins. Oh, and about 8 brooms. |
| 23:42.19 | Amarande | "Bloodelfmale" |
| 23:42.20 | Amarande | :| |
| 23:42.26 | Lyn | :/ |
| 23:42.52 | mikma | :\ |
| 23:42.59 | Dewin | :< |
| 23:43.05 | Lyn | Industrial, http://www.armory-light.com/eu/Khaz%27goroth/Naeva/ 12 days old :/ |
| 23:43.47 | Lyn | equip doesnt change |
| 23:44.03 | Lyn | just got around 13% crit or so just with talents and totems and glyphs lol |
| 23:44.35 | Industrial | blah warcrafter doesnt do 3.0 yet http://www.armory-light.com/eu/Vashj/Xamth |
| 23:45.10 | Lyn | whaat wanna have fresh cache too :< |
| 23:45.57 | Industrial | ill take 3 pieces of t6and the lightning capacitor instead of a fresh cache ty :p |
| 23:46.11 | Lyn | Industrial, haha we have the same spec |
| 23:46.11 | Industrial | but i gtotta get to bed, work tomorrow |
| 23:46.24 | Lyn | and what i can see, exactly the same |
| 23:46.31 | Lyn | good night :p |
| 23:46.36 | mikma | owarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alonsus&n=Snusnu |
| 23:46.44 | mikma | damnit |
| 23:46.46 | Lyn | xD |
| 23:46.54 | mikma | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alonsus&n=Snusnu |
| 23:47.29 | mikma | shittygear is shitty |
| 23:47.35 | Lyn | i like that name xD |
| 23:47.58 | mikma | arenateam was "DEATH BY SNUSNU" |
| 23:48.26 | Lyn | xd |
| 23:48.38 | Lyn | wohowo 808 mangle!!1 |
| 23:50.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=TC@cpe-76-171-31-114.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:52.09 | Amarande | hmm, hopefully I actually -get- WOTLK within a reasonable interval of release |
| 23:52.12 | Amarande | something just occurred to me :| |
| 23:52.36 | Amarande | apparently, Gamestop is giving people who spring for the one-day shipping their copies early so they'll -arrive- on the 13th |
| 23:53.00 | Amarande | does this mean that anyone who ordered with any method other than One Day will probably wait several weeks for the second pressing of WOTLK before they see their copy at all? :| |
| 23:53.51 | Lyn | i've math lecture on 13.11 ... so i have to go BEFORE or AFTER it to local store (hope thy still have some CEs over after their night sell) |
| 23:54.48 | Lyn | dont think so @ waiting and gamestop |
| 23:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: yes, thats EXACTLY what it means. Let's face it: if you don't have the money and free time to have your copy installed and ready when the servers come back up, you can kiss any chance of seeing wotlk before december goodbye |
| 23:54.59 | Lyn | oO |
| 23:55.09 | Lyn | xD |
| 23:56.31 | Lyn | yeah new pants for my drood |
| 23:56.35 | Lyn | sweet |
| 23:58.13 | Lyn | so.. gonna go to bed now, night :) |
| 23:59.43 | Duman | err... wtf |
