| 00:00.19 | Amarande | zenzelezz: you mean people on your server don't flood the hell out of the trade channel all the time anyway? |
| 00:00.24 | bleeter | zenzelezz: that shutdown chatter is OK to rightclick 'report as spam', in fact GMs encourage it helps them lots |
| 00:00.39 | zenzelezz | Amarande: not in this way, no |
| 00:00.50 | Shirik | !reload |
| 00:00.50 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 00:00.51 | bleeter | zenzelezz: well, at least US GMs... dunno the EU policy |
| 00:00.54 | Amarande | weird. which server do you play on? |
| 00:01.29 | Gnarfoz | :(( and EU is down ^^ |
| 00:02.17 | Amarande | AI routines? |
| 00:02.24 | Amarande | On October 14, 2008, Skynet became self aware ... |
| 00:02.27 | Ktron | Eredar says its up, but character lists don't get returned yet |
| 00:02.57 | zenzelezz | hrm, do you have to wait before you can start patching? I had hoped to start it just now when the server went down |
| 00:03.07 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: you have to wait, sadly ^^ |
| 00:03.13 | Ktron | is wowace part of curse now? I think wowace was headed towards being part of WOWI |
| 00:03.17 | Gnarfoz | until they update the patchlists |
| 00:03.17 | zenzelezz | how long? |
| 00:03.18 | jaxdahl | O_o my character list is alphabetical now.. |
| 00:03.36 | Gnarfoz | Ktron: uhm it's been "part of curse" for quite some time now, if you view it from the money side ;p |
| 00:03.57 | Ktron | didn't know that |
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| 00:05.24 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 00:06.04 | Kirkburn | Thunder_Child, I see everyone got labelled in the photo this time :P |
| 00:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm? |
| 00:06.42 | Kirkburn | http://www.thunder-child.net/Misc/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg |
| 00:09.34 | Cairenn|food | that's such a good picture |
| 00:09.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaso (n=Kaso@78.146.115.64) |
| 00:09.39 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. |
| 00:09.54 | Cairenn|food | overall, the fact there's so many of us there |
| 00:10.00 | Duman | wow |
| 00:10.15 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 00:10.16 | Amarande | hmm, another reason to use curse if possible, sadly |
| 00:10.32 | Amarande | wowi is currently making shattrath look responsive |
| 00:10.34 | Duman | Blizzard was #2 on the "wtf do they not peer with people" list here at NANOG |
| 00:10.43 | Cairenn|food | and that wasn't even all of us |
| 00:10.52 | Duman | someone find me a way to contact Blizzard network engineering pl0x |
| 00:10.53 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I totally agree with that part, Cairenn! |
| 00:10.56 | Kirkburn | We did good :) |
| 00:10.58 | Cairenn|food | Amarande: responding quickly enough for me |
| 00:11.20 | Kirov | Someday I may make it to blizzcon ... though now that I'm moving to Seattle it's probably less likely. |
| 00:11.27 | Dewin | yay Earthen Ring ring is ... Retrieving Character List |
| 00:11.37 | Amarande | I'd make it to a blizzcon if one was scheduled far enough away from trips that I've already promised people I'd go on |
| 00:11.39 | Dewin | Kirov: I finally moved OUT of the Seattle Area, and then attended PAX for the first time. |
| 00:11.48 | Kirov | heh |
| 00:11.55 | duaiwe | Dewin: .. you're doing it wrong. ;) |
| 00:11.55 | End | wowi is bit slow for me |
| 00:12.08 | Dewin | I thought they said they fixed the retrieving characters issue. |
| 00:12.09 | End | although, my realm isn't really functioning :P |
| 00:12.11 | Amarande | File Info view temporarily disabled for guests until caching issue is fixed. Please login to the site for now. We hope to have this fixed very soon. |
| 00:12.18 | End | so the shattrath comparison doesn't really work :P |
| 00:12.19 | Kirkburn | Aim for next year: MOAR PEEPLE! |
| 00:12.20 | End | for me |
| 00:12.23 | Amarande | I have to register a username and password to download even a single addon from wowi now? |
| 00:12.33 | Cairenn|food | no |
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| 00:12.45 | Dewin | You can download it, jsut can't retrieve the addon info |
| 00:12.51 | Dewin | judging by that message |
| 00:13.04 | Amarande | oh, yes, direct download link DUH |
| 00:13.47 | Dewin | login message updated again |
| 00:13.56 | Kirkburn | Dewin, and what does it say? |
| 00:14.11 | Dewin | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 00:14.26 | Dewin | << Keep in mind that players will still need to purchase Wrath of the Lich King when it launches on November 13, 2008 to access content that is exclusive to the expansion pack. >> |
| 00:14.36 | Dewin | I bet this doesn't stop ANYBODY from going "how i get northrend???" |
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| 00:14.55 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:15.01 | Semhirage | Dewin, they've been whining about it since servers came up on blackrock =/ |
| 00:15.02 | Kirkburn | It didn't stop them in frikkin' beta |
| 00:15.04 | morkii | I bet they push it back further still |
| 00:15.57 | bleeter | duaiwe: how 2 git 2 NR??!??!? |
| 00:16.09 | *** part/#wowuidev Ktron (n=khamer@c-24-61-106-3.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 00:16.11 | bleeter | wtf.. Dewin ... hmm dumb autocomplete failing a joke |
| 00:16.16 | NightHawkTheSane | ~lart bleeter |
| 00:16.16 | purl | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at bleeter |
| 00:16.23 | Duman | hmm |
| 00:16.27 | Duman | how to find a Blizzard neteng |
| 00:16.48 | cbreak | Duman: follow the trail of hamster munchies |
| 00:17.30 | ZorbaTHut | yay, 750 achievement points |
| 00:17.46 | morkii | that character list issue is totally not fixed |
| 00:18.55 | Gnarfoz | Duman: try sounding official on the phone. Social engineering works wonders sometimes. |
| 00:19.19 | WobWork | cbreak: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzTfgds0UI |
| 00:19.25 | WobWork | Cairenn: ^ |
| 00:19.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:20.37 | cbreak | no wonder that the servers are so... slacking |
| 00:20.43 | Dewin | hmm... I'm broken. |
| 00:21.40 | Dewin | now to figure out what addon is stopping me from logging in |
| 00:22.31 | Dewin | (I never left the "loading your UI" screen, but started hearing sounds like incoming tells, etc.) |
| 00:23.24 | cbreak | no addons? |
| 00:23.33 | cbreak | deleted caches/settings/usual stuff? |
| 00:24.22 | cbreak | (sounds like a job for bisection search :/ ) |
| 00:24.31 | Syzgyn | FFS still stuck at loading character screen |
| 00:24.43 | bleeter | WobWork: thx lol |
| 00:24.47 | Dewin | cbreak: The annoying thing is I logged in my warlock just fine with the exact same set of addons |
| 00:25.17 | cbreak | probably different settings. Or an addon is incompatible with something char specific, like talents... hmm... |
| 00:25.46 | Duman | hmm |
| 00:26.11 | Amarande | good grief |
| 00:26.17 | Amarande | auctioneer is downloading like I'm on dialup |
| 00:26.36 | bleeter | I suspect we're getting hammered |
| 00:26.47 | Amarande | this is from curse, actually |
| 00:26.49 | Amarande | I'll try wowi |
| 00:27.07 | bleeter | oh, yeah, we were having speed issues updating curse |
| 00:27.10 | cbreak | everyone wants to know for how much to sell the herbs hoarded in the past weeks |
| 00:27.27 | bleeter | Amarande: dunno if we've updated wowi yet, best bet is to kjeep an eye out on our home page for 'current' releases |
| 00:27.43 | bleeter | it's likely that'll get updated more frequently as we 'discover' bugs, then when were' happy push it out on to curse/wowi |
| 00:28.01 | Amarande | actually, wowi and curse might download that file from the same place |
| 00:28.06 | Amarande | I canceled the DL from curse |
| 00:28.14 | Amarande | tried getting it from wowi, and it resumed from the point it had left off ... at curse |
| 00:28.25 | Amarande | the zip appears to be okay, too |
| 00:28.47 | Gnarfoz | or you have a smart d/l manager that heard about file checksums |
| 00:28.50 | bleeter | no, we upload to wowi/curse when we have a build we're happy with. any 3rd party site will lag behind our official releases until (a) we have time to update (b) we're confident to push it onto 3rd party sites as it takes time and effort |
| 00:29.22 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: or a dumb one that just looks at filenames and file sizes ;) |
| 00:29.37 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: noes >_> |
| 00:30.00 | bleeter | damn you WobWork! I now have 'Hamster on a piano' stuck in my head haha |
| 00:30.11 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:30.17 | Amarande | now I'm getting ISE's from wowi |
| 00:30.18 | Corrodias | so wowi is where you put the crappy beta releases! >:o |
| 00:30.21 | Amarande | think it's a little bit overloaded |
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| 00:31.00 | Amarande | hmm, anyone know a good castbar addon other than quartz? |
| 00:31.00 | Kirkburn | WobWork, thanks for that link :) It was enjoyed in the office :P |
| 00:31.09 | WobWork | Kirkburn: hehe =) no worries =) |
| 00:31.17 | WobWork | bleeter: It's a GREAT SONG! =) |
| 00:31.36 | kaiden | Any ideas on what may cause a "Interface\FrameXML\LootFrame.lua:139:attempt to index local 'self' ( a nil value) error? |
| 00:31.47 | bleeter | hax |
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| 00:32.01 | NeoTron | bug in blizzard code? :P |
| 00:32.08 | bleeter | planetary alignment, cosmic particles... lots of things may cause it |
| 00:32.18 | morkii | I use the blizzard cast bar myself |
| 00:32.23 | Lunessa | emacs totally has a setting for that. |
| 00:32.39 | bleeter | emacs has a setting for bugs in Bliz code? |
| 00:32.53 | Dewin | .... okay, cannot log in with addons disabled. |
| 00:33.02 | Brimm | kaiden: couple of things can do that - namely the code in LootFrame expecting something and a hooked method returning wrong values |
| 00:33.13 | Dewin | Well, cannot leave "you are logging in" screen that is |
| 00:33.15 | morkii | Dewin: your server is up? |
| 00:33.17 | Dewin | I think my continent server is boomed. |
| 00:33.30 | Dewin | morkii: For relatively broken values of 'up' |
| 00:33.39 | Lunessa | bleeter, naturally. _enter_random_bugs=True |
| 00:33.43 | morkii | mine isn't even that |
| 00:34.17 | kaiden | Brimm, thank you, have any ideas on what addon could possibly be doing that, as it's driving me mad, everytime i loot :( |
| 00:35.00 | Brimm | really hard to say :( |
| 00:35.02 | Lunessa | kaiden: What loot addons do you have? |
| 00:35.22 | Brimm | binary disabling is pretty efficient at finding a culprit unless you have an excessive amount of addons |
| 00:35.29 | kaiden | thats' the whole problem... none |
| 00:36.03 | Brimm | do you have Domino? it has a roll box |
| 00:36.10 | kaiden | i have Macaroon |
| 00:36.18 | kaiden | but it doesn't have a roll box :) |
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| 00:37.09 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:37.15 | Amarande | what's a 3.0 compatible icon that lets me move my game tooltip? |
| 00:37.17 | Amarande | tiptac is still for 2.4 |
| 00:37.17 | kaiden | gonna try disabling a few at a time til i find it |
| 00:37.53 | digmouse | try TipTop |
| 00:38.56 | Duman | cowtip works |
| 00:38.57 | Shadowed | Amarande: Quartz should work as long as you disable the 3.0 specific stuff like buffs |
| 00:38.57 | Dewin | Pretty sure my server is still boom. |
| 00:39.01 | Duman | at least, it worked fine on beta/ptr |
| 00:39.18 | Amarande | argghhh, guess I'm gonna have to register an account with WOWI |
| 00:39.27 | Amarande | there are too many addons for which I can't get a search results to get a direct download from |
| 00:39.31 | Amarande | because there's only one match |
| 00:39.49 | Amarande | which means, the search results don't come up, it tries to go straight to the info page, which it refuses to let you access without registering a username |
| 00:40.23 | Dewin | then register an account? |
| 00:40.25 | Amarande | you should just allow the info pages without caching :| |
| 00:40.43 | Amarande | Dewin, some of us don't care to have to remember another password in addition to the 40 million ones we have to click 'forgot password' for every time we need to access the site. :) |
| 00:41.00 | Dewin | So register a throwaway account you can use for now to download addons? |
| 00:41.07 | Dewin | The requiring registration is temporary I believe. |
| 00:41.47 | Amarande | Dewin: what would be the effect on WOWI if they allowed guests to view info without the caching? |
| 00:41.51 | bleeter | HAMSTER ON A PIANO |
| 00:42.02 | Amarande | financial disaster to the point of "WILL MAKE ADDONS FOR FOOD"? |
| 00:42.15 | Dewin | Amarande: The caching means less load on the server |
| 00:42.24 | Dewin | And right now... there's a LOT of load in the server. |
| 00:42.39 | WobWork | EATING POPCORN |
| 00:42.47 | bleeter | ON A PIANO |
| 00:42.57 | bleeter | you bastard WobWork :P |
| 00:43.06 | kaiden | gah... i've disabled nearly everything i have... and still getting that stupid ass error |
| 00:43.14 | Dewin | kaiden: What error? |
| 00:43.15 | WobWork | hehehe |
| 00:43.30 | WobWork | bleeter: Have you seen the Cat flushing toilet one? =) |
| 00:43.33 | Amarande | actually, more to the point |
| 00:43.39 | Duman | eew |
| 00:43.39 | Amarande | is there a password retrieval link at all at wowi? |
| 00:43.40 | WobWork | http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=49jKeGyUCJE |
| 00:43.43 | Duman | wowi is 500'ing me |
| 00:43.47 | Dewin | Amarande: Yes. |
| 00:43.48 | Duman | overloaded, I guess |
| 00:43.50 | Amarande | I know I can't post to Thottbot anymore because they have no forgot password link |
| 00:44.21 | kaiden | i betcha it's elkanos frames resized... |
| 00:45.01 | WobWork | He's a cat! |
| 00:45.06 | WobWork | Flushing a toilet! |
| 00:45.27 | kaiden | grrr @ elkano *stabbity* |
| 00:45.30 | bleeter | doesn't care about wasting water |
| 00:45.37 | kd3 | blah |
| 00:46.40 | Amarande | FAIL. |
| 00:46.45 | Amarande | "Please complete the required field 'username'" |
| 00:47.18 | bleeter | wobwork: check it out at around 56 seconds http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4lCotjd3pR8 |
| 00:47.26 | Amarande | I filled out the whole reg form |
| 00:47.31 | Amarande | and forgot to specify a username ... :| |
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| 00:48.24 | Dewin | okay Blizz, you said "and playable" by 6 PM, you got 12 minutes :-p |
| 00:48.49 | bleeter | they also said 'should' not 'would' :P |
| 00:48.54 | bleeter | or 'will' |
| 00:49.22 | WobWork | bleeter: Now I don't know if I can love at all =( |
| 00:49.49 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: you seeing a huge performance outside of WoW while in game? |
| 00:49.57 | Lunessa | WobWork: We knew that about you, you heartless bastard. :P |
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| 00:50.03 | kd3 | huge performance? |
| 00:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | *drop |
| 00:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ie |
| 00:50.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Laggy desktop |
| 00:50.12 | WobWork | Lunessa: Well it's your fault |
| 00:50.20 | WobWork | Lunessa: You hit me in the face with a soccer ball =( |
| 00:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Great WoW FPS, but terrible outside of game performance |
| 00:50.23 | Lunessa | I know, no one recovers from loving me. |
| 00:50.37 | kd3 | not really. I've been running wow in a vdesktop forever, so wow rarely ever notices if it's lost focus |
| 00:50.50 | kd3 | running fine right now |
| 00:50.54 | WobWork | Lunessa: That's alright. The hamster on a piano still loves me |
| 00:51.04 | WobWork | (Eating popcorn) |
| 00:51.08 | ScytheBlade1 | My ssh lags when I switch between channels in irssi, or tab through windows |
| 00:51.15 | bleeter | WobWork: you're a bloody idiot :P lalwz :D |
| 00:51.19 | Lunessa | Does it dance for you, singing country and western songs? |
| 00:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | (Eating popcorn) |
| 00:51.40 | WobWork | Lunessa: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzTfgds0UI |
| 00:52.23 | bleeter | WobWork: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9Dpu0hdtA |
| 00:53.40 | WobWork | oh god |
| 00:53.43 | WobWork | can't breathe |
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| 00:54.26 | WobWork | I was kinda inured to Hamster on a Piano |
| 00:54.38 | WobWork | but Wiener dog had me crying |
| 00:54.51 | bleeter | riding on his skateboard |
| 00:55.39 | WobWork | The eidelweiss tune was fantastic |
| 00:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | fwiw <RegisterForSave>'s server is working great ;) |
| 00:57.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 00:57.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 8:00 to server restart |
| 00:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | never mind |
| 00:57.37 | Duman | heh |
| 00:57.59 | Lunessa | Haha... PWNT |
| 00:59.00 | End | uh oh |
| 00:59.04 | End | I'm stuck learing jubling |
| 00:59.07 | End | learning* |
| 01:00.21 | Lopeppeppy | Uh-oh |
| 01:00.40 | End | guess I can't learn jubling! |
| 01:01.16 | End | ok |
| 01:01.32 | kaiden | lol, warning, the addon/module 'Prat_PlayerNames' has 1569 live timers. Surely that's not intended? |
| 01:01.35 | kaiden | I love that |
| 01:01.57 | sylvanaar | what |
| 01:02.27 | kaiden | just the way it puts it out there ;) |
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| 01:03.05 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out for tonight. See you guys tomorrow. |
| 01:03.17 | bleeter | cya Lunessa take care mate :) |
| 01:03.41 | *** part/#wowuidev Lunessa (n=Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 01:03.42 | Cairenn | night lun |
| 01:03.48 | Cairenn | nm :p |
| 01:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | Nighty Lunessa! |
| 01:06.19 | sylvanaar | i dont even see which api it calls |
| 01:06.40 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 01:06.48 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: s/N/M/ ;) |
| 01:07.10 | sylvanaar | i must be doing it wrong, its supposed to be 1 timer |
| 01:08.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: wts "Routes is missing data for Dalaran" errors. >< |
| 01:09.26 | End | oh yeah |
| 01:09.29 | End | I meant to report that |
| 01:09.40 | End | well, NightHawkTheSane did it, so now I can continue being lazy |
| 01:12.43 | Amarande | arrrgghh. |
| 01:12.51 | Amarande | any good trade skill window replacement addons for 3.0? |
| 01:13.07 | Amarande | skillet is apparently going the way of the dodo ... it was out of date even in 2.4 |
| 01:14.09 | Atriace | ~ping |
| 01:14.10 | purl | ~pong |
| 01:16.20 | WobWork | ~pong |
| 01:16.20 | purl | ~ping |
| 01:16.46 | WobWork | ~ack |
| 01:16.47 | purl | *ACK* *ACK* *ACK* |
| 01:16.57 | Atriace | Is it just me, or are the authentication servers not working on either the beta or live servers? |
| 01:17.03 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. It's not just you. |
| 01:17.14 | Lopeppeppy | It's patch day, it happens. |
| 01:17.15 | End | live was fine as of a few minutes ago |
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| 01:17.24 | Dewin | Live *was* fine, and then stopped being so fine |
| 01:17.26 | End | now I'm logged in, so screw yous guys! |
| 01:17.42 | NeoMinder | how goes the ballte? |
| 01:17.59 | kd3 | they said all realms were supposed to be up 18 minutes ago, but no dice yet |
| 01:18.10 | End | some are still down |
| 01:18.12 | End | some are up |
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| 01:18.17 | Amarande | I'm still trying to piece together a suitable new UI for 3.0 |
| 01:18.25 | Amarande | so I haven't really tried to log on since getting the patch |
| 01:18.29 | End | that's what ptr/beta was for ;-p |
| 01:18.40 | Dewin | ^ |
| 01:18.46 | Amarande | anyway |
| 01:18.51 | NeoMinder | i thought that was to test lua changes? |
| 01:18.56 | NeoMinder | and algorithms changes... |
| 01:19.02 | Amarande | is there any suitable replacement for skillet etc. or are we stuck using the Blizzard tradeskill window for the foreseeable future? |
| 01:19.17 | Dewin | End: Even if all the realms are up as advertised, you can't authenticate to even select a realm >.> |
| 01:19.35 | Amarande | Dewin: this is why authentication is a bad idea! :) |
| 01:19.56 | Amarande | similarly, when NickServ malfunctions, it's proof positive that nick registration is a bad idea! |
| 01:20.00 | End | Dewin: well, I did like 10 minutes ago |
| 01:20.05 | Dewin | Amarande: I agree. Blizzard should just trust me when I say "Hey, I'm Amarande, let me in." |
| 01:20.06 | End | but that was then |
| 01:20.41 | Lopeppeppy | This is why I haven't registered my little authenticator yet.... |
| 01:21.16 | Gnarfoz | what's that got to do with anything |
| 01:21.29 | Dewin | I'll just watch some Zero Punctuation to entertain mysefl I guess |
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| 01:23.22 | Atriace | Oh sweet! The keynote address is up on Apple.com |
| 01:23.59 | Amarande | gah, should I just give up and switch from FuBar to Titan Panel or is that not updated well for 3.0 yet either? |
| 01:24.19 | Gnarfoz | ...? |
| 01:24.21 | Gnarfoz | fubar is updated |
| 01:24.26 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: yeah, FUBAR is updated |
| 01:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Fubar is updated. I've been finding pieces on Curse and WowI, IIRC |
| 01:24.39 | Amarande | however, the addons I actually use with it ... |
| 01:24.41 | Gnarfoz | also, even fubar 3.0 worked error free on beta. |
| 01:25.04 | End | what |
| 01:25.07 | Amarande | are all still 2.4.3 or even 2.3.3, it seems |
| 01:25.08 | End | fubar is updated? |
| 01:25.22 | Amarande | End: sure, if you love having empty bars |
| 01:25.23 | Gnarfoz | amazingly, you can read! ;D |
| 01:25.32 | End | I'm still using an old version |
| 01:25.41 | End | I figured ckknight wasn't really touching it anymore |
| 01:25.46 | Amarande | FuBar is updated, but hardly any of the addons that *use* FuBar are |
| 01:26.04 | Gnarfoz | End: yes, because it works fine, that's probably why ;p |
| 01:26.05 | Amarande | unless there's new versions at Ace |
| 01:26.08 | End | well |
| 01:26.12 | Amarande | but apparently, I would need to be approved as an Ace tester to get at those |
| 01:26.14 | End | I hear the profile feature is broken |
| 01:26.17 | Amarande | and I'm not at all sure how one goes about that. :) |
| 01:26.20 | End | but I don't use that feature |
| 01:26.23 | Gnarfoz | ace tester? oO |
| 01:26.24 | End | so I don't really know :P |
| 01:26.30 | Gnarfoz | rumour mill is milling fast |
| 01:26.56 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: it says 'if you are a member of our testing community' on the goodbye page at files.wowace.com |
| 01:27.13 | Gnarfoz | well, files.wowace.com is, like, dead? |
| 01:27.19 | Gnarfoz | www.wowace.com |
| 01:27.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Gnarfoz: yep. |
| 01:27.30 | Gnarfoz | files has the last snapshot of before the svn was made read-only. |
| 01:27.38 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: do you need any sort of special approval to download stuff from wowace now? |
| 01:27.38 | Gnarfoz | ZealotOnAStick: wrong person. :p |
| 01:27.50 | Gnarfoz | yes, you go to curse.com instead. |
| 01:27.51 | kd3 | you don't need any approval. just log in with your curse account |
| 01:28.02 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm tired. I saw your response, with the ? at the end, thought you were asking. |
| 01:28.05 | Gnarfoz | every release-worthy version of wowace addons will be on curse.com :) |
| 01:28.27 | Gnarfoz | ZealotOnAStick: nevermind, it's just that it seems like it's happening to me 500times a day ;D |
| 01:28.31 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: so what UI are we supposed to use for the next week or two? |
| 01:28.40 | Amarande | Blizzard's craptastic one that doesn't even give you half the info any good quester should have at a glance? |
| 01:28.41 | Gnarfoz | whatever UI you like? |
| 01:28.51 | Seerah | Amarande: there's a difference between users who just want the addons (who would get release versions from Curse now) and users who actually partake in the testing process, etc |
| 01:29.06 | Amarande | Seerah: there's no release 3.0 LocationFu yet |
| 01:29.10 | Dewin | ouch, now the login server is *really* boom. Hopefully that means it's being restarted. |
| 01:29.17 | Gnarfoz | Amarande: so bug the author of that ;) |
| 01:29.19 | Amarande | which basically means I'm gonna have to go over to Titan Panel or such if I want real-time locations this week? |
| 01:29.29 | *** join/#wowuidev NeoMinder (n=r00t@ip68-230-24-4.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:29.29 | Seerah | minimap? |
| 01:29.31 | Gnarfoz | your minimap title also usually has the zone name. |
| 01:29.43 | Amarande | zone names aren't anywhere near useful enough for questing efficiently. :) |
| 01:29.48 | Gnarfoz | not that you'd need them because there's no new zones - buuut hey I don't want to get picky. ;> |
| 01:30.01 | Amarande | there's a difference between Gadgetzan (52,26) and Gadgetzan (52,28) after all. :P |
| 01:30.01 | kd3 | real-time locations? |
| 01:30.03 | Seerah | there are other mods like locationfu |
| 01:30.12 | Amarande | I take it it's time to hang up FuBar then, though? |
| 01:30.21 | Amarande | since I doubt any of the others slot into it :) |
| 01:30.22 | Gnarfoz | seriously |
| 01:30.24 | Seerah | if that's all you're keeping it around for... |
| 01:30.31 | Amarande | well, I can do without MOST of what I use in FuBar |
| 01:30.33 | Gnarfoz | what's so hard about it |
| 01:30.38 | NeoMinder | does fubar do loc? heh |
| 01:30.39 | Gnarfoz | bug the authors of the plugins. |
| 01:30.40 | End | hm, my version of Mapster is confused by epl |
| 01:30.45 | Gnarfoz | fubar works fine. |
| 01:30.56 | Amarande | but ... I *have* to have FactionsFu, GarbageFu, DurabilityFu, ExperienceFu, and LocationFu or suitable substitutes |
| 01:31.10 | kd3 | epl and stormwind have been rescaled |
| 01:31.12 | Amarande | I do not have a widescreen monitor, as a result I DO NOT HAVE ROOM for the default Blizzard xp and faction bars anywhere |
| 01:31.17 | kd3 | any old coordinates for those zones won't work |
| 01:31.23 | *** join/#wowuidev morkii (n=morkii@server1.bshellz.net) |
| 01:31.23 | End | kd3: the defogger is confused :P |
| 01:31.24 | Amarande | without having to give up any of the other stuff I use |
| 01:31.28 | kd3 | even then |
| 01:31.36 | End | doesn't like the new area |
| 01:31.36 | Gnarfoz | Amarande: write less, bug authors more. |
| 01:31.46 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: I'm sure the authors have been bugged |
| 01:31.54 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, if they're not done today, they'll be done Soon (tm). Impatience just makes authors annoyed. Eat a sammich. |
| 01:32.00 | End | ^ |
| 01:32.05 | Amarande | unless people who are used to heavily modded UI's and don't know lua on their own are expected to quit WoW for most of October? |
| 01:32.07 | Gnarfoz | it's not rocket surgery. |
| 01:32.14 | Gnarfoz | SERIOUSLY |
| 01:32.15 | Gnarfoz | omg |
| 01:32.17 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 01:32.27 | Seerah | no, you're not expected to quit |
| 01:32.27 | kd3 | most? maybe a few days |
| 01:32.38 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, enough with the entitlement complex. If you're not going to update the addon yourself, you have no right to complain whatsoever. |
| 01:32.38 | kd3 | or just use the default ui (god forbid) |
| 01:32.40 | Amarande | apparently, lua is complicated enough that it takes a $50 book's worth of info to do anything much with it. :) |
| 01:32.40 | Seerah | you're expected to be patient to allow authors time to get their fixes out |
| 01:32.44 | Seerah | EU doesn't even have the patch |
| 01:32.50 | Amarande | what's the learning curve like on lua, anyway? |
| 01:32.54 | Amarande | maybe I should just write my own UI :) |
| 01:33.01 | morkii | I can't even connect to the authentication server anymore |
| 01:33.36 | Lopeppeppy | Go buy the books and find out. *sweet smile* |
| 01:33.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Jumpee (n=IceChat7@67-42-48-20.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 01:33.36 | Dewin | morkii: You're not alone. |
| 01:33.37 | Amarande | or is that basically a recipe for "better create a brand new character to do all the testing with or have VERY understanding guildies lest you get gkicked while messing with a few particular things" |
| 01:33.42 | morkii | I think I need a new video card anyway it wouldn't load the game even when they were working |
| 01:33.46 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: any good online references, or am I going to have to spend the $50 and wait for Amazon to ship? |
| 01:33.49 | Dewin | morkii: Server? |
| 01:33.54 | Lopeppeppy | ~pil |
| 01:33.54 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 01:33.54 | Gnarfoz | what $50 |
| 01:33.59 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API |
| 01:34.01 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 01:34.02 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 01:34.05 | morkii | I tried a couple, my loading bar filled up and just stayed there instead of going into the game |
| 01:34.06 | Dewin | It's not a video card issue, I've done some testing. |
| 01:34.12 | Gnarfoz | wowwiki's API reference is... well, out of date. ;) |
| 01:34.16 | Dewin | I had the exact same issue on Earthen Ring, but Scarlet Crusade was working for instance |
| 01:34.26 | kd3 | so... fix it! |
| 01:34.29 | kd3 | we're a wiki |
| 01:34.35 | morkii | oh yea? I tried thunderhorn and greymane |
| 01:34.36 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: there a good reference as to what stuff in the 5.0 version is Still Working and which Breaks Stuff? |
| 01:34.38 | Dewin | morkii: I thought it was addon related but wiping wtf and renaming my interface/etc folders out of the way did not fix it |
| 01:34.46 | Dewin | That and on one of my attempts I actually got "world server is down" |
| 01:34.58 | morkii | it worked for a totally new character where the video was loaded but not an established character |
| 01:35.05 | Amarande | could even be 5.2 or 6.0, making the purchased books a waste of money too heh |
| 01:35.19 | Dewin | morkii: I Tried to make a new character to test it, haven't seen the server since :) |
| 01:35.25 | morkii | hehe |
| 01:35.25 | Seerah | ~wowprogramming |
| 01:35.26 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 01:35.30 | Dewin | so it's my fault it went boom, I'm sure |
| 01:35.37 | morkii | ooh back to authenticating |
| 01:35.40 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, check out the patch update threads, those help. And the books will be more updated than the online PIL, as well as what Seerah just linked.... |
| 01:35.54 | Dewin | ooh you're right |
| 01:36.06 | Dewin | Retrieving character list... again. |
| 01:36.25 | Dewin | I think Earthen Ring is the red-headed stepchild |
| 01:36.48 | alestane | Amarande: I believe it's 5.1.1 with a few proprietary modifications. |
| 01:36.54 | Amarande | Guess I'll have to see what's available online |
| 01:37.07 | Dewin | hm. My addons tab is now missing. |
| 01:37.10 | Amarande | seeing as if I want to get anything fixed before the authors do it anyway, that would set me back a cool $100 or so |
| 01:37.13 | morkii | well I'm on thunderhorn and having the same problems lol |
| 01:37.20 | Dewin | or maybe it's because I moved my interface folder out of the way |
| 01:37.27 | morkii | I can't even load my character list |
| 01:37.32 | Dewin | It took me awhile, be patient |
| 01:37.34 | WobWork | O.O |
| 01:37.38 | WobWork | entitlement much? |
| 01:37.49 | Lopeppeppy | Srsly. *gentle shrug* |
| 01:38.09 | Zootfizzle | Amarande, there are only really a couple significant changes between Lua 5.0 and 5.1 that you're likely to run into by trying to change or fix an addon, and if you run into them, we can help you with them ;) |
| 01:38.13 | Amarande | Wob: being used to things. :) |
| 01:38.21 | Zootfizzle | Don't talk yourself out of your ability to figure things out - you got here okay! |
| 01:38.22 | *** join/#wowuidev gammaa (n=hehee@89.0.58.114.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 01:38.24 | WobWork | Amarande: How about 'disappointment'? =) |
| 01:38.30 | Amarande | in particular, without a working LocationFu or the like that gives me real-time coordinates |
| 01:38.41 | kd3 | any minimap mod can do that |
| 01:38.43 | kd3 | <3 sMM |
| 01:38.44 | Seerah | locationfu is not the only addon that gives coordinates |
| 01:38.45 | morkii | yeppers i still can't get into the game |
| 01:38.51 | Dewin | Looks like Earthen Ring is still only pretending to be online |
| 01:38.52 | Amarande | I'm going to be doing a *lot* more bumbling around during questing, which probably means a lot more seeing grey during difficult quests. :) |
| 01:39.04 | *** part/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-76-115-111-253.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 01:39.07 | Amarande | Perhaps, if there's one feeling of entitlement I've developed |
| 01:39.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-76-115-111-253.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 01:39.28 | Amarande | it's having a powerful enough UI that I can quest so efficiently *without* seeing grey more often than I do. :) |
| 01:39.36 | Gnarfoz | seeing gray? |
| 01:39.41 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: dying |
| 01:39.42 | Gnarfoz | wtf's that's supposed to mean ^^ |
| 01:39.55 | Gnarfoz | dying while questing because of lack of coordinates on your fubar? |
| 01:39.59 | Seerah | ah... |
| 01:40.00 | Gnarfoz | I don't follow. |
| 01:40.06 | morkii | is anyone able to get in and play? |
| 01:40.11 | kd3 | no mork |
| 01:40.13 | kd3 | auth is hosed |
| 01:40.17 | morkii | auth is back |
| 01:40.18 | morkii | just slow |
| 01:40.29 | kd3 | which still counts as "hosed" |
| 01:40.35 | Gnarfoz | how do you need coords for questing anyway, and why *would* you be questing except for alts - which would mean you already know the quests from your main! xD |
| 01:40.51 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: except that this is the first time I've been leveling an alliance character |
| 01:40.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Kowski (i=IceChat7@pv130239.reshsg.uci.edu) |
| 01:40.54 | morkii | i can get on my server and the loading bar fills up but then it just stays there |
| 01:40.57 | Gnarfoz | ~_~ |
| 01:40.57 | purl | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 01:41.00 | End | I'm about to get booted by my server |
| 01:41.01 | Amarande | I only know most of the lower level quests from horde side :) |
| 01:41.02 | Gnarfoz | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:41.03 | purl | ~~~~~~~~~~~ are YOU READY?????????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:41.09 | Gnarfoz | purl ftw ;> |
| 01:41.13 | Syzgyn | My server is still borked :( |
| 01:41.17 | Seerah | don't piss off purl, Gnarfoz ;) |
| 01:41.17 | kd3 | even then. do you really need a mod? you can quest without having to use questhelper... |
| 01:41.33 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: I know, she can be deadly. ;) |
| 01:41.38 | Mikk | IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO QUEST WITHOUT HAVING YOUR ENTIRE SCREEN COVERED WITH ADDONS |
| 01:41.45 | Mikk | ! |
| 01:41.45 | morkii | and it worked fine on ptr so I don't see why I would need a new vid card now |
| 01:41.46 | Amarande | Indeed |
| 01:41.47 | Syzgyn | IKNORITE |
| 01:41.53 | Amarande | IF YOUR UI DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HOMER'S WEB PAGE, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG |
| 01:42.05 | Cidan | So |
| 01:42.08 | Cidan | How's 3.0? |
| 01:42.10 | Cidan | Is it horrible? |
| 01:42.13 | Seerah | ??? Homer's web page? |
| 01:42.16 | Amarande | Cidan: we'll find out once we get to log on |
| 01:42.21 | kd3 | cidan; I'll let you know when I can get in |
| 01:42.21 | Gnarfoz | whatever, I'll try fixing anything that doesn't work in my UI when EU servers are up + I'm home from work tomorrow (AGH this is already "today" ;p) |
| 01:42.25 | Amarande | Seerah: you never saw the episode where Homer attempted to make a web page :) |
| 01:42.28 | Cidan | lol |
| 01:42.33 | Cidan | I figured no one would login |
| 01:42.37 | kd3 | whee at patch notes being flat out wrong |
| 01:42.37 | Gnarfoz | and I do use LocationFu, so you might be lucky tomorrow, already. ;) |
| 01:42.38 | Amarande | he ended up with this random arrangement of flashing and animated blinking gewgaws with no rhyme or reason :) |
| 01:42.50 | *** join/#wowuidev jacklondon (n=jacklond@118.13.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 01:42.58 | Amarande | and yes, GEWGAWS IS THE TECHNICAL TERM |
| 01:43.02 | kd3 | * Patch 3.0.2 (10/14/08): "Devilsaur Eye now increases your pet's attack power for a short duration instead of increasing its critical strike chance. It also provides a small amount of passive Agility." No agility actually provided |
| 01:43.09 | Amarande | heh |
| 01:43.17 | jacklondon | lol |
| 01:43.30 | Jumpee | is "this" gone with this patch? |
| 01:43.56 | Cidan | I thought it was simply deprecated |
| 01:44.03 | Lopeppeppy | There are only sammiches and annoyed dinos. |
| 01:44.04 | Cidan | Though it might be removed |
| 01:44.07 | Seerah | really, it is better to use self, anywya |
| 01:44.09 | Seerah | *anyway |
| 01:44.13 | Zootfizzle | We haven't removed it yet, but if you use it, we'll call you out on the forums. |
| 01:44.17 | Cidan | Seerah: Agreed. |
| 01:44.17 | Jumpee | I know but was curious |
| 01:44.32 | kd3 | ...wait, wait. blues are larting people on the forums? |
| 01:44.41 | jaxdahl | wait, the forums are working? |
| 01:44.43 | Dewin | I was able to briefly |
| 01:44.45 | Dewin | but then boom |
| 01:44.46 | Jumpee | Calling me out wouldn't be the first time |
| 01:44.48 | Dewin | couldn't log in. |
| 01:45.09 | Seerah | ~lart kd3 |
| 01:45.09 | purl | changes kd3's permissions to 0777 and tells the world |
| 01:45.34 | Cidan | huh |
| 01:45.34 | morkii | I can log in fine I just can't get past the loading bar still |
| 01:45.35 | Amarande | Seerah: don't forget to put kd3's network interface into promiscuous mode too |
| 01:45.37 | Cidan | I can login just fine. |
| 01:45.44 | morkii | I've tried 4 times on different characters |
| 01:45.44 | Cidan | Well, I'm at the loading bar... |
| 01:45.46 | Cidan | let's see... |
| 01:45.57 | Jumpee | So it must be fun times working at the Blizz devs workspace today |
| 01:46.11 | kd3 | "zOMG the world's ending! aaaaaah! run for your lives!" |
| 01:46.22 | Cidan | And I'm in |
| 01:46.26 | WobWork | ~panic |
| 01:46.27 | purl | somebody please DO something! |
| 01:46.29 | Dewin | Cidan: What server? |
| 01:46.40 | morkii | Cidan: everything loaded fine? |
| 01:46.51 | Amarande | anyway, more to the point. |
| 01:46.55 | Cidan | Eredar |
| 01:47.00 | Amarande | time to see if ExperienceFu and FactionsFu at least work |
| 01:47.00 | Cidan | Everything loaded |
| 01:47.06 | Cidan | in Stormwind right now |
| 01:47.07 | Amarande | I suppose I can just do the cooking daily and hang out in Shattrath for tonight |
| 01:47.09 | Amarande | *but* |
| 01:47.17 | Amarande | I simply do not have the screen real estate for Blizzard xp and rep bars. :) |
| 01:47.20 | Cidan | Holy shit, these shadows look nice, but they *rape* my computer |
| 01:47.26 | Cidan | Totally rape |
| 01:47.27 | jacklondon | hey sorry to interrupt guys but i had a quick idea, I wanted to make a macro to /assist a mouse over target then cast and then /target last target. and stuff to make it also give a reset timer |
| 01:47.31 | Cidan | And I have a 9800 GTX 512. |
| 01:47.32 | morkii | at least you can get in lol |
| 01:47.36 | jacklondon | was thinking this so far /cast [mouseover:taregetoftarget] judgement reset=60 |
| 01:47.51 | WobWork | Cidan: that bodes not well for my setup |
| 01:47.52 | jacklondon | any ideas on it? lol |
| 01:47.53 | kd3 | jack "/cast [target=targettarget] Spell" |
| 01:47.57 | kd3 | reset only works for castsequence |
| 01:48.02 | jacklondon | nice hah |
| 01:48.09 | Dewin | mouseovertarget? |
| 01:48.12 | jaxdahl | what world server are exodar and silvermoon on? |
| 01:48.13 | Seerah | yay! I can actually start downloading the patch now that I got to log in! :) |
| 01:48.18 | kd3 | jax; outland |
| 01:48.20 | Seerah | BC |
| 01:48.27 | jacklondon | mouseovertarget? |
| 01:48.34 | kd3 | or mouseovertarget or whatever else you want |
| 01:48.43 | jacklondon | wow nice hah |
| 01:48.50 | morkii | what server are you on Cidan? |
| 01:48.54 | Amarande | meh, guess I'll just do the cooking daily and chat |
| 01:49.01 | kd3 | just remember that mouseovertarget is who your mouseover is actually targeting, not the mouseover unit itself |
| 01:49.13 | Amarande | er wait, just chat |
| 01:49.20 | Amarande | I need to figure out new talent builds before I invest any points |
| 01:49.22 | Cidan | Wow. Someone needs to... redo the shadowing rendering system. |
| 01:49.25 | Amarande | how effective is a lock at 0/0/0? :) |
| 01:49.43 | kd3 | whee, the forums are up. kinda |
| 01:49.45 | Amarande | I don't want to mess with my talent points till I know for sure where they're going :) |
| 01:49.46 | kd3 | no background art at all |
| 01:49.51 | Dewin | wow... |
| 01:50.01 | Dewin | So... remember how people were talking about logging out in Naxx prepatch? |
| 01:50.12 | jacklondon | ya that works pretty well kd3 :) making a healer focused macro idea :), is there a way to add in a mouseovertarget or mouse over target into one? |
| 01:50.13 | Dewin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11226742569&pageNo=1&sid=1#2 they didn't get hearthed out, wow crashes instead |
| 01:50.21 | bleeter | oops lol |
| 01:51.11 | Cidan | Oh Jesus Christ |
| 01:51.50 | morkii | Dewin: any luck getting in? |
| 01:51.57 | Cidan | Zootfizzle: Whoever did the calendar thing needs a raise. |
| 01:52.06 | Cidan | *Whomever |
| 01:52.19 | bleeter | oh god yes, whoever approved it to be in the default also needs a raise |
| 01:52.26 | bleeter | gah, yes that too whomever |
| 01:52.29 | Dewin | morkii: Nope. I'm forum lurking to kill time |
| 01:52.35 | morkii | lol |
| 01:52.40 | morkii | i can't get on those |
| 01:52.44 | Cidan | This thing is amazingly full of win and win. |
| 01:52.49 | End | blarg assassin! |
| 01:52.57 | jacklondon | can you add two resets? like /castsequence [target=targettarget,reset=60] Judgement, Seal of Light.... giving judgement a 60 second reset and seal of light a 120 second reset? |
| 01:53.38 | Gnarfoz | <Cidan> Zootfizzle: Whoever did the calendar thing needs a raise. <-- take it from the guy who did the shadows' salary... :~ :p |
| 01:53.39 | Duman | uh |
| 01:53.47 | Duman | not sure what that would do for you, jack? |
| 01:53.50 | Cidan | Gnarfoz: Agreed. |
| 01:54.02 | Duman | or rather, what are you trying to do |
| 01:54.07 | Cidan | Whomever did the shadowing part of the engine needs to be fired. |
| 01:54.10 | bleeter | gotta say, the old shadows were a bit sucky |
| 01:54.27 | bleeter | ok, a lot sucky |
| 01:54.31 | Cidan | They were, but this new one hurts, bad. |
| 01:54.38 | Gnarfoz | ~dict whomever |
| 01:55.07 | End | ~dict wimwabbledo |
| 01:55.25 | End | then how am I supposed to use it in a sentence? |
| 01:55.47 | bleeter | by saying 'how am I supposed to use wimwabbledo in a sentence?' |
| 01:55.56 | End | touche |
| 01:56.08 | morkii | somebody made a post on the support forums with the same issue |
| 01:56.20 | morkii | with many that agree lol |
| 01:56.40 | Cidan | The best part of this patch? There are more people in Stormwind right now than I've seen in almost a year, if not more. |
| 01:57.14 | bleeter | i thought the best bit was the hamster on the piano |
| 01:57.20 | bleeter | but i'm odd like that |
| 01:57.28 | morkii | I don't go to stormwind much myself but that may be because I play horde |
| 01:57.32 | WobWork | (eating popcorn) |
| 01:58.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Kowski (i=IceChat7@pv130239.reshsg.uci.edu) |
| 01:58.15 | morkii | here is a nice support thread: Pets and mounts gone from tab/inventory |
| 01:58.40 | WobWork | oh noes =P |
| 01:58.54 | Gnarfoz | IF > SW, any day, even with harbour :p |
| 01:58.56 | bleeter | NERD RAGE CANCEL SUB |
| 01:58.56 | WobWork | "Yes... yes they are" |
| 01:58.56 | Amarande | yeah, someone on QD was just talking in trade about their mounts being missing |
| 01:59.14 | morkii | I guess some people can't read patch notes |
| 01:59.22 | bleeter | d/patch notes/ |
| 01:59.32 | Dewin | I've heard a few issues actually |
| 01:59.40 | Dewin | Someone learned all of their mounts, deleted them, and then the server crashed |
| 01:59.44 | Syzgyn | Rofl |
| 01:59.47 | Dewin | it saved their inventory after deletion but their spellbook before. |
| 01:59.55 | bleeter | ow |
| 02:00.01 | Dewin | so despite having the achievement for 15+ mounts they came back with like 3. |
| 02:00.10 | morkii | you shouldn't have to delete them though |
| 02:00.32 | Amarande | well, the only ones I've got in my mounts tab anyway right now are my dreadsteed, felsteed and netherdrake |
| 02:00.42 | Amarande | and I can always buy a new netherdrake if it screws up I guess heh |
| 02:00.43 | morkii | at least on ptr when i learned them they went out of my bags auto |
| 02:01.17 | Dewin | morkii: I had to |
| 02:01.40 | Dewin | It actually caused me problems with my macros until I relogged, /cast Swift Red Gryphon would fail because it'd target the no-longer-existing item instead of the spell by the same name |
| 02:02.40 | morkii | mm never had that one either |
| 02:02.57 | Amarande | ahh, didn't think about macros |
| 02:03.00 | Dewin | It only happened on mounts where the item name exactly matched the spell name |
| 02:03.01 | Amarande | I know if you have an actionbar icon for the mount item |
| 02:03.05 | Amarande | and click the mount item to learn it |
| 02:03.10 | Dewin | my "Reins of the Swift Nightsaber" > "Swift Nightsaber" part worked fine. |
| 02:03.16 | Amarande | the actionbar icon will also automagically change over to the one for mounting said mount |
| 02:03.53 | Dewin | Amarande: This was for /cast [flyable] Swift Red Gryphon; Reins of the Swift Nightsaber |
| 02:04.05 | Dewin | I corrected the macro, but the flyable portion wouldn't work until a full restart (reload UI was not sufficient) |
| 02:04.18 | Dewin | I reported it with detaisl to Blizz though so maybe it's fixed |
| 02:07.24 | Cidan | Shit |
| 02:07.31 | Cidan | Are the forums still being killed? |
| 02:07.49 | Duman | they are slooowww |
| 02:07.53 | Duman | and often breaking |
| 02:07.59 | Cidan | Does anyone have a copy of the UI API changes? |
| 02:08.22 | Dewin | maybe wowwiki does? |
| 02:08.25 | bleeter | Cidan: if you ask kd3 nicely, he can prolly mail them to you |
| 02:08.27 | Duman | I'm pretty sure cairenn copied the post from theUI forums onto the wowi forus |
| 02:08.29 | Duman | +m |
| 02:08.40 | Duman | oh, you mean the actual diffs? |
| 02:08.46 | kd3 | I emailed out the diffs a few hours ago. /msg me an address and I'll send you a copy |
| 02:09.42 | Cidan | Done and done, thanks kd3 |
| 02:10.04 | Cidan | Trying to fix my copy of RDX until I get around to doing Conspiracy *cough**shuffles feet* |
| 02:10.27 | Shirik | ehm |
| 02:10.27 | cog|away | quick... name the dragon on the wotlk login screen... |
| 02:10.36 | Cidan | frost wyrm? |
| 02:10.40 | WobWork | "Fred" |
| 02:10.41 | Shirik | Mr. Dragon |
| 02:10.43 | kd3 | "sindragosa" |
| 02:10.50 | kd3 | and email out, cidan |
| 02:11.27 | Cidan | kd3: Got it, thanks |
| 02:11.28 | |Jelly| | still ... downloading ... |
| 02:13.11 | schnoggo | when pushing a zip file live frpm the zvn, is there a way to get a "clean" folder name? "AKA" is getting sent as "AKA-2.6" (version number) Is there any harm to omitting the version number on the web page? |
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| 02:13.26 | schnoggo | duh zvn = svn |
| 02:13.28 | Kowski | kd3: thanks too |
| 02:13.46 | ckknight | I prefer zvn |
| 02:13.48 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy!! |
| 02:13.51 | Shirik | You killed Cidan! |
| 02:13.57 | Seerah | schnoggo: are you referring to the wowace svn, wowi svn?... |
| 02:14.00 | |Jelly| | To the face? |
| 02:14.11 | schnoggo | wowinterfaqce |
| 02:14.35 | Amarande | haha ... "Deaths from Hogger" |
| 02:14.38 | Duman | hmm, what to eat |
| 02:14.42 | WobWork | schnoggo: yes |
| 02:14.46 | NeoMinder | nice! |
| 02:14.49 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I soooo doubt I hurted Cidan. He seems a nice sturdy lad. |
| 02:14.50 | Amarande | Semhirage: good to see a fellow Wheel of Time fan here :) |
| 02:14.53 | |Jelly| | Am I crazy or did I see that PitBull was updated? |
| 02:15.06 | WobWork | schnoggo: check the FAQ on the repositories |
| 02:15.08 | Cidan | AND STURDY I AM |
| 02:15.13 | Seerah | I'm confused, I guess, on what you mean by "'clean' folder name" - what does your folder name look like schnoggo? |
| 02:15.14 | ckknight | |Jelly|: you be cray-zee! |
| 02:15.20 | WobWork | there's info there on how to make the foldername a specific name |
| 02:15.21 | Cidan | Have you not seen me drink from bottles of Gatoraide? |
| 02:15.26 | [dRaCo] | has anyone tried using the latest quartz on 3.0.2? |
| 02:15.39 | schnoggo | it's getting the version # tacked on |
| 02:15.52 | |Jelly| | http://www.wowwiki.com/WotLK_AddOn_status <-- lies :( |
| 02:15.57 | Seerah | to the folder name *inside* the zip? |
| 02:17.03 | Semhirage | Amarande, thx |
| 02:17.09 | WobWork | oh |
| 02:17.15 | WobWork | no he means the downloaded zip file |
| 02:17.22 | WobWork | has Addonname-version.version.zip |
| 02:17.47 | WobWork | yes? |
| 02:17.47 | |Jelly| | I <3 downloading at 8.3kb/s |
| 02:18.02 | schnoggo | yes. addons are in their respective trunks |
| 02:18.05 | |Jelly| | (on my 10mb connection) |
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| 02:18.14 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 02:18.26 | |Jelly| | ~hug Iriel |
| 02:18.26 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Iriel |
| 02:18.32 | Amarande | ok, on a more generic point |
| 02:18.38 | Amarande | how dangerous is it to develop addons using a guilded character? |
| 02:18.48 | WobWork | ? |
| 02:18.48 | ckknight | not dangerous. |
| 02:18.57 | Dewin | bah, Maul never fixed the propogate button in Macaroon |
| 02:19.00 | |Jelly| | It's not dangerous. Just don't tell them. |
| 02:19.01 | ckknight | unless your addons make you /gquit |
| 02:19.04 | Shirik | nevcairiel: ping |
| 02:19.11 | WobWork | or steals from the gbank =) |
| 02:19.16 | Amarande | I just have visions of addons spamming guild chat by mistake, or simply officers getting annoyed due to the fact that one will be logging on and off of wow insane numbers of times in a row. :) |
| 02:19.21 | schnoggo | WobWork: despite painful slowness, I examined the faq again. It answers not my questions, and you have earned my bandwidth punished wrath! :) |
| 02:19.27 | Lopeppeppy | If you know you'll be in and out a lot, use an alt character so that doesn't happen. |
| 02:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | But most of the time, your testing *should* be transparent. Or use the PTRs, that's what they're for. |
| 02:19.54 | WobWork | schnoggo: Then, you should make your question clearer |
| 02:20.03 | WobWork | As it seems -noone- can understand what you're asking |
| 02:20.07 | Dewin | PTRs aren't up anymore |
| 02:20.20 | schnoggo | I quoted exaples. Others understoon the question. |
| 02:20.33 | WobWork | who did? |
| 02:20.44 | Duman | what? |
| 02:21.12 | schnoggo | heh you did ! |
| 02:21.21 | WobWork | There you go |
| 02:21.33 | WobWork | And then if that's so, no I do not believe there's a way to do that |
| 02:21.42 | schnoggo | so the question was perfectly framed! |
| 02:21.46 | jacklondon | anyone have an idea how to do a 60 second reset timer on a mouse over assist macro? |
| 02:21.58 | WobWork | The version is there to differentitate it from the other versions you may have pushed |
| 02:22.03 | WobWork | or will push |
| 02:22.23 | schnoggo | I'm not so certain - i'm thinking it actually pulls the version from the TOC |
| 02:22.30 | Seerah | you should always name your zip file with a version number |
| 02:22.32 | jacklondon | like /cast [mouseover=targettarget,reset=60] judgement |
| 02:22.35 | jacklondon | ? |
| 02:22.44 | WobWork | not afaik, you specify the version when you push the zip |
| 02:22.55 | Duman | jack: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:22.59 | WobWork | but then again, I keep my versions and toc updated |
| 02:23.00 | Duman | there's nothing to "reset" |
| 02:23.31 | schnoggo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:23.46 | WobWork | It's just the name of the zip that has the version, no? |
| 02:23.53 | WobWork | what addon are you speaking of? |
| 02:23.54 | Seerah | your addon will work fine. It doesn't matter what the zip is called |
| 02:23.56 | schnoggo | I Keep everything current and it's biting me. I can't be the only one |
| 02:24.08 | Seerah | it only matters what the folder is called |
| 02:24.18 | Ryutsuki | People have probably been asking this all day but is there a working version of Cosmos UI for the new patch? |
| 02:24.23 | Seerah | and the folder name is determined by whatever *you* name it |
| 02:24.28 | Amarande | yay, Turalyon stuck on 'retrieving character list' |
| 02:24.31 | WobWork | oh no |
| 02:24.36 | WobWork | schnoggo is deep breathing |
| 02:24.42 | jacklondon | judge a mouse over target then add a 60 second reset timer |
| 02:24.48 | morkii | I don't think I've ever seen anybody ask about cosmos before |
| 02:24.51 | Duman | to reset what? |
| 02:25.04 | schnoggo | it's seeting the name of the folder to "AKA-2.6" for version 2.6 |
| 02:25.05 | Duman | (btw, it would be "target=mouseover") |
| 02:25.07 | Amarande | gah. |
| 02:25.07 | schnoggo | for |
| 02:25.08 | jacklondon | reset the cast |
| 02:25.10 | Amarande | I HATE having a standard monitor :S |
| 02:25.11 | Seerah | jacklondon: there is nothing to reset - it's not a sequence |
| 02:25.15 | jacklondon | sorry here |
| 02:25.17 | Duman | there's nothing to reset... it's just a cast |
| 02:25.22 | Amarande | I was thinking of just coding myself an infopanel that gives the stuff I'm used to via fubar |
| 02:25.23 | WobWork | schnoggo: do you have a link to the addon? |
| 02:25.32 | Amarande | a nice, rectangular infopanel somewhere on the screen |
| 02:25.40 | Amarande | only to realize that without a widescreen monitor, I don't have room for it :( |
| 02:25.41 | WobWork | Amarande: look at libdatabroker |
| 02:25.43 | Cidan | Does anyone know what Button:SetTextFontObject has been replaced with? |
| 02:25.45 | jacklondon | i want to add a 60 second timer on it so it shows when to rejudge |
| 02:25.49 | Ryutsuki | Well, I've been using Cosmos UI since I started playing WoW and I can't get onto the Cosmos to check for an update for the new patch =( |
| 02:26.02 | Iriel | Cidan: Did you look at the 3.0 changes thread on the UI forum? |
| 02:26.02 | Amarande | WobWork: does libdatabroker give me room on a non-WS monitor that I wouldn't otherwise have? :) |
| 02:26.10 | Duman | "it" ? what "it" do you think will show you 60s? :) |
| 02:26.17 | Cairenn | Ryutsuki: Cosmos died with 3.0 |
| 02:26.23 | Cidan | Iriel: I didn't see it listed, perhaps I missed it. |
| 02:26.31 | Amarande | yeah, it seems like there are no real UI sets made for 3.0 yet |
| 02:26.31 | Ryutsuki | O_O |
| 02:26.34 | Cairenn | Ryutsuki: there is a news post about it on their site (when you can get to it) |
| 02:26.35 | Amarande | despite the amount of time it was on PTR |
| 02:26.43 | WobWork | Amarande: No, unfortunately no current addons can warp spacetime like that |
| 02:26.45 | Ryutsuki | Awwww.... damnit >_< |
| 02:26.51 | schnoggo | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7813-AKA.html |
| 02:26.56 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, there are plenty of addons updated. Go make your own set. |
| 02:26.56 | Amarande | there aren't even some important things like tradeskill panel replacements yet that I know of |
| 02:26.57 | WobWork | Amarande: aside from Dash |
| 02:27.09 | jacklondon | the macro would show judge 60 seconds for a reset after the macro is cast but it would apply to a mouse over |
| 02:27.25 | Seerah | again, there is no sequence to reset |
| 02:27.25 | Duman | ok, now MY head exploded |
| 02:27.33 | Amarande | hmm, let's see what I've managed to replace so far |
| 02:27.39 | Amarande | clearfont2 may be dead, but there's tekticles |
| 02:27.42 | Cidan | Iriel: I see it, thanks. |
| 02:27.45 | Amarande | tiptac may be dead, but there's tiptop |
| 02:27.57 | Duman | "reset" does nothing in a /cast. It's for /castsequence, to reset the sequence to the beginning |
| 02:27.58 | WobWork | Amarande: see if Dash still works |
| 02:27.59 | Cairenn | Ryutsuki: http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php |
| 02:27.59 | Seerah | kirkburn was contemplating updating cf2 |
| 02:28.03 | Amarande | omen is updated ... castbars I can go with either quartz (with some lost functionality) or eCastingBar |
| 02:28.13 | Ryutsuki | thanks Cairenn |
| 02:28.17 | WobWork | schnoggo: Ok |
| 02:28.18 | Cairenn | np |
| 02:28.20 | Duman | quartz was working like 90%... just no unitbuff stuff |
| 02:28.25 | WobWork | schnoggo: I see where you're having problems |
| 02:28.26 | Seerah | what functionality do you *lose* with quartz? o.O |
| 02:28.35 | WobWork | schnoggo: and my original answer to your question would solve it. |
| 02:28.47 | Amarande | Auctioneer is ok, ArkInventory is ok, I can use either X-Perl or Perl Classic apparently ... EBB is ok ... there's a new Cartographer version entirely ... FuBar itself is ok, Bartender4 is ok |
| 02:28.55 | schnoggo | "look in the faq?" |
| 02:29.02 | Lopeppeppy | Pitbull works fine as unit frames too. |
| 02:29.10 | WobWork | yes |
| 02:29.12 | Amarande | hmm, looks like mainly I haven't been able to replace Skillet or some particular FuBar addons yet. |
| 02:29.14 | schnoggo | Didn't help |
| 02:29.36 | Amarande | and I'm not sure if the substitutes for the Fu addons will work with FuBar or just take up screen real estate on top of FuBar's |
| 02:29.45 | Lopeppeppy | Then just *DEAL* for a day or two, for the sake of all that's holy. |
| 02:29.56 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: know anything that works like skillet? |
| 02:30.01 | Amarande | I have a feeling that one's dead as a dodo |
| 02:30.08 | Amarande | since it wasn't even updated for 2.4 actually, though it still worked |
| 02:30.17 | WobWork | schnoggo: read a bit more http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=svn#faq_release |
| 02:30.23 | Seerah | someone else was updating it in a different directory |
| 02:30.29 | Lopeppeppy | Your own brain, boyo. Piece of paper. Or just wait a few days and see what fruits ripen on the sites. |
| 02:30.29 | Gnarfoz | why would it be updated if it worked. :X |
| 02:30.30 | Seerah | just be patient for a couple days |
| 02:30.32 | Ryutsuki | With the chatter mod can you modfy your chat to kind of do the same thing that TasteTheNaimbow did? |
| 02:30.33 | Seerah | the world is not ending |
| 02:30.34 | WobWork | If you want to put your files directly in /trunk (/trunk/AddonName.toc instead of /trunk/AddonName/AddonName.toc), you can set the "wowi:dirname" svn property on the trunk directory. This will force the packager to put all the files in /trunk into a folder with the name you specified. |
| 02:30.48 | schnoggo | I've read it 10 times - you are not being helpfil, grasshopper |
| 02:30.48 | Cairenn | just a reminder to everyone ... we're all stressed beyond words right now ... everyone's patience is running really low (mine included)... be even more polite than you usually would in here |
| 02:30.48 | jacklondon | well lol im not sure :) i wanted it to judge my target or mouse over target with judgement of light, and show a 60 second timer on it, but every 120 seconds it would show to cast seal of light... |
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| 02:31.06 | Amarande | Maybe I *should* buy a widescreen monitor, though |
| 02:31.11 | Amarande | The main reason I became so dependent on FuBar |
| 02:31.12 | WobWork | schnoggo: You're not being very conducive to helping |
| 02:31.24 | WobWork | schnoggo: The information is all there. Use it. |
| 02:31.28 | Amarande | is that it's about the only way to cram all that real-time info on the screen that I know of that doesn't need the extra room of a WS monitor |
| 02:31.45 | schnoggo | WTF! If you know the answer prove it otherwise be silent on this topic |
| 02:31.46 | WobWork | schnoggo: And please. Can the attitude. |
| 02:31.50 | Cidan | Shirik: You know that menu bug you got in Conspiracy? I never was able to reproduce it. |
| 02:31.53 | WobWork | oh ffs |
| 02:31.55 | WobWork | I give up |
| 02:32.10 | Cairenn | just a reminder to everyone ... we're all stressed beyond words right now ... everyone's patience is running really low (mine included)... be even more polite than you usually would in here |
| 02:32.11 | Amarande | what shaped area do Titan Panel and the like expect you to find room for? |
| 02:32.11 | Cairenn | just a reminder to everyone ... we're all stressed beyond words right now ... everyone's patience is running really low (mine included)... be even more polite than you usually would in here |
| 02:32.15 | Amarande | bars or a rectangular spot? |
| 02:32.20 | Lopeppeppy | Fubar is totally awesome, I don't disagree. A widescreen is also a wonderful play surface. |
| 02:32.25 | WobWork | I cannot give you any more help than hand holding you to the direct link and pasting the text that you require |
| 02:32.28 | Seerah | schnoggo: your problem is that you did not create a folder inside trunk for your files |
| 02:32.34 | Dewin | What are author's stances of people submitting bugfix patches against their addon to the author? |
| 02:32.41 | WobWork | Seerah: He can work around that even with the propset |
| 02:32.41 | Seerah | trunk\AFK\AFK.toc |
| 02:32.53 | Lukian | Dewin, please do it XD |
| 02:32.53 | WobWork | But he refuses to actually read the information |
| 02:32.56 | Cairenn | Dewin: most authors appreciate it, if you send it to them directly |
| 02:32.56 | Seerah | he can, but easiest way to get the folder name you want |
| 02:33.08 | bleeter | Dewin: if they're clean, follow coding style, fix the bug, and 'obvious', then please yes! unified diffs are best ;) |
| 02:33.13 | Ryutsuki | Can anyone recommend a casting bar mod? Like for my own and my party members? |
| 02:33.33 | schnoggo | I KNOW I can change my repository structure! That wasn't the question. |
| 02:33.36 | jacklondon | here is what i have so far... /castsequence [target=targettarget] Seal of Light, Judgement ..... but I need to add two resets one for seal of light for 120 seconds and one for judgement for 60 seconds |
| 02:33.36 | Seerah | Ryutsuki: party members, too? that will only come on a unit frame mod |
| 02:33.40 | WobWork | >< |
| 02:33.46 | WobWork | Then use the propset |
| 02:33.48 | schnoggo | indeed |
| 02:34.05 | WobWork | Right there. In the FAQ |
| 02:34.07 | Ryutsuki | Seerah: unit frame mod? like xperl or something? |
| 02:34.07 | Amarande | Ryu: classic perl or x-perl if you want it for party members |
| 02:34.09 | bleeter | Dewin: I'd go as far to say that following coding style is prolly more important than actually fixing stuff. if a patcher makes the effort and falls at the last hurdle of actual code, the programmer may be more prepared to give that final tweak, or other suggestions |
| 02:34.17 | Amarande | speaking of which, did they fix that weird glitch in X-Perl in 3.0? |
| 02:34.20 | bleeter | Dewin: as it indicates the patcher has made some effort to grok the pre-existing code |
| 02:34.22 | Dewin | bleeter: This particular fix is a one-liner ;) |
| 02:34.27 | Amarande | in the 2.4 versions of X-Perl, I always had a strange cosmetic glitch |
| 02:34.30 | Gnarfoz | Amarande: they = Zeksie |
| 02:34.37 | Seerah | Ryutsuki: any unit frame mod that has cast bars built in and supports those units' cast bars |
| 02:34.47 | Duman | never had issues w/ x-perl in beta |
| 02:34.47 | schnoggo | I see it now. But you could have answered the original question with "use the propset" adnd I would have been done. |
| 02:34.48 | Ryutsuki | Ok. Thanks for the help everyone btw. Without cosmos i'm kind of lost as to what addons and stuff I need to get. haha |
| 02:34.51 | Amarande | specifically, a lot of times the cast bar part would end with "Failed" when the action succeeded |
| 02:35.01 | WobWork | schnoggo: Go help yourself next time. |
| 02:35.03 | bleeter | Dewin: fair enough, all the better :) I was speaking to the more general patching of foo where the source code's avail. one liners? like manna from heaven to programmers ;) |
| 02:35.07 | schnoggo | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.08 | Amarande | e.g. I'd use say the book to learn first aid expert |
| 02:35.11 | WobWork | The answer was in the FAQ, in which I directed you to |
| 02:35.18 | jacklondon | or could you add a reset for 60 seconds for /cast [target-targettarget] Jugement ? |
| 02:35.24 | Amarande | after the time was up, chat would say "you have learned a new skill yadda yadda" and the X-Perl castbar would say ... "Failed" :| |
| 02:35.25 | WobWork | If you had, in fact, read it. You would know |
| 02:35.38 | Seerah | jacklondon: again... reset does not work for regular casts |
| 02:35.41 | WobWork | Instead, you insult me and everyone else trying to help |
| 02:35.50 | WobWork | with condescension and disdain |
| 02:36.04 | Cairenn | seriously guys, take a deep breath and count to 10 |
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| 02:36.08 | WobWork | raaawrgh |
| 02:36.18 | schnoggo | I appreciate help. |
| 02:36.22 | jacklondon | ahh.. can you add two timers for different casts? like a reset for 60 seconds and anohter for 120? |
| 02:36.24 | bleeter | MOAR HAMSTAZ ON TEH PAINOES |
| 02:36.39 | Seerah | jacklondon: I don't think you quite understand what reset does |
| 02:36.41 | schnoggo | I have no time for condescension. |
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| 02:36.51 | jacklondon | sorry |
| 02:36.59 | WobWork | schnoggo: Then don't give it. |
| 02:37.03 | WobWork | (EATING POPCORN) |
| 02:37.06 | jacklondon | what about two different spells? |
| 02:37.10 | Ryutsuki | Seerah: Ok. Thanks for the help. Any personal recommendations? I'd like to retain something close to how Cosmos did it but i'm not sure what unit frames mod it used lol |
| 02:37.10 | Duman | jack: "reset" does nothing in a /cast. It's for /castsequence, to reset the sequence to the beginning |
| 02:37.13 | WobWork | (ON A DAMN PIANO) |
| 02:37.22 | jacklondon | hmm |
| 02:37.24 | Duman | jack: please explain what you're TRYING to do... what is your ultimate goal |
| 02:37.26 | Seerah | lol WobWork |
| 02:37.43 | morkii | Dewin: doesn't seem like the blue bar of death posts are getting any blizzard love |
| 02:37.43 | Seerah | Ryutsuki: you could try pitbull or agUnitFrames |
| 02:37.55 | Seerah | XPerl might have cast bars, too, I don't remember - it's been a long while |
| 02:37.59 | Dewin | hmm, I just realized my grand action bar layout scheme would exhaust all available action IDs |
| 02:38.10 | Duman | yeah xperl has them in the title/header area |
| 02:38.12 | Dewin | still limited to 120 right? |
| 02:38.16 | jacklondon | lol, shows a reset timer for casting jugment and also add a reset timer for a different timer to reseal, im trying to judge every 60 seconds and reseal every 120 seconds... as well i want it to be a mouse over of the target |
| 02:38.20 | Syzgyn | Dewin: That would make it seem pretty complex then |
| 02:38.27 | Ryutsuki | Eh, I really don't like the way X-perl looks tbh |
| 02:38.32 | Dewin | Szygyn: I |
| 02:38.35 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+m] by Cairenn |
| 02:38.37 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18549 |
| 02:38.45 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-m] by Cairenn |
| 02:38.46 | Ryutsuki | Seerah: ok. Thanks alot. The help is much appreciated |
| 02:38.46 | Dewin | 7 stances (0 thru 6) eats 84 IDs already |
| 02:38.52 | Syzgyn | Druid? |
| 02:39.03 | Dewin | generic |
| 02:39.08 | Syzgyn | >_> |
| 02:39.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Firedancer (n=chatzill@cpe-74-79-154-69.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 02:39.13 | Duman | jack: you'll need an addon that shows you a timer, if that's what you're trying to do |
| 02:39.15 | Dewin | with a druid toon involved, so I need to make it work for druids :) |
| 02:39.28 | Duman | cairenn :) |
| 02:39.29 | Syzgyn | Druids dont need 7 stances though, do they? |
| 02:39.34 | Dewin | though travel and flight forms probably don't need a bar |
| 02:39.38 | Syzgyn | ^ |
| 02:39.45 | Syzgyn | Or Sea form |
| 02:39.47 | jacklondon | well i want to make a macro that will que 2 casts then do another cast after that |
| 02:39.49 | Seerah | jacklondon: reset timers are to tell a macro when to reset back to the first item in a cast sequence |
| 02:40.06 | Dewin | Szygyn: yeah, but that aligns with defensive stance on warriors, so I have to allocate for it anyways |
| 02:40.06 | Seerah | *spell |
| 02:40.21 | Dewin | nothing that really needs an action bar needs stance 4 or 6. |
| 02:40.46 | Duman | jack: specific example, please? Note that there is no actual ability to "queue" spells |
| 02:40.50 | Syzgyn | Is it really worth doing a generic layout? |
| 02:40.56 | Duman | (specific example of what you're trying to do) |
| 02:41.05 | jacklondon | ok. |
| 02:41.09 | Dewin | Szy: I use a common layout across all characters. It really helps |
| 02:41.10 | jacklondon | sorry :) |
| 02:41.16 | Syzgyn | I get that |
| 02:41.18 | Dewin | and it means minor bugfixes (oops, I forgot a possess bar) are dealt with :) |
| 02:41.27 | Dewin | first time doing chess in Kara was kind of fun |
| 02:41.45 | Syzgyn | but Why not just do the basic stuff, and allocate stance bars per character? |
| 02:42.06 | Dewin | Because then I'm forced to maintain different profiles per character that, when I tweak, I have to tweak across every character. |
| 02:42.23 | morkii | eh, maul is going to fix that |
| 02:42.26 | Syzgyn | Are you really that lazy? |
| 02:42.26 | Lopeppeppy | My layout is basically the same for each character as well, with class differences localized to the same general area on all toons. |
| 02:42.33 | jacklondon | assist my mouse over or currrenty selected target cast 'judgement' every 60 seconds, then cast 'seal' then another reset to recast judgement every 60 seconds... then cast seal... repeat |
| 02:42.50 | morkii | he is still working on profiles |
| 02:42.52 | Duman | you're going to have to hit the button every 60s |
| 02:43.04 | Dewin | morkii: My goal is to let them all use the same profile. Maul isn't going to add a feature to let me copy my changes between profiles without actually wiping the entire profile (at least I highly doubt it) |
| 02:43.06 | Seerah | yeah, macros (even mods) can't time things for you |
| 02:43.23 | Dewin | I'm aiming for low maintenance ;) |
| 02:43.28 | jacklondon | well ya, thats ok.. i want it to display that, but then after 2 times that it needs to cast seal |
| 02:43.35 | Esamynn | what's the name of that addon that was updated to always keep a non-combat pet out? |
| 02:43.48 | morkii | Dewin: he mentioned profile sharing in one post where a change in one place would changed it for every other char |
| 02:43.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yerk, dunno Esamynn. |
| 02:44.19 | Dewin | morkii: Profile sharing just means they're both using the same profile. My 'druid-specific' thing would require separate profile for druids vs nondruids and still doesn't solve the problem, I have a solution anyways ;) |
| 02:44.19 | Seerah | jacklondon: and reset doesn't "display" anything. |
| 02:44.37 | WobWork | Amarande: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
| 02:44.44 | Dewin | I just ran out of action IDs to use the action ID interface, and I wanted to start using it to prep for the dual spec changes |
| 02:44.52 | Duman | if you want something to display a 60sec timer for you, you'll need an addon to do that for you |
| 02:44.54 | WobWork | Amarande: not sure if 3.0 will affect it, but it's useful on small screens |
| 02:45.12 | Amarande | let's see if wowi is kind to me and will load the page in less than three tries this time. :) |
| 02:45.19 | Amarande | ISE! |
| 02:45.47 | jacklondon | ahhhhh |
| 02:45.51 | WobWork | (whut?) |
| 02:46.12 | jacklondon | can macros add a timer on when to recast a cast? |
| 02:46.42 | End | GAH |
| 02:46.44 | Duman | you'll need something like cronometer and you'll need to trigger a timer bar on it |
| 02:46.45 | End | internal server error |
| 02:46.47 | End | ~fail wowi |
| 02:46.48 | purl | wowi, you Fail! |
| 02:46.52 | WobWork | jacklondon: no |
| 02:47.04 | WobWork | jacklondon: well... |
| 02:47.08 | Seerah | End: try again - just too many hits |
| 02:47.15 | WobWork | jacklondon: You can have a reset value, but it won't recast it automatically |
| 02:47.15 | jacklondon | lol |
| 02:47.22 | End | Seerah: fine, I'll spam reload |
| 02:47.27 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:47.28 | End | oh |
| 02:47.30 | End | there it goes |
| 02:47.30 | jacklondon | thats what im trying to figure out, i can recast it on my won |
| 02:47.35 | Seerah | worked, didn't it? |
| 02:47.36 | Seerah | yep :P |
| 02:47.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ... any feral druids in here have a good l70 spec? >.> |
| 02:47.45 | Cidan | There we go, the old RDX5 is updated for 3.0, wee. |
| 02:47.52 | End | oh good |
| 02:48.01 | End | tekticles looks like what I do want |
| 02:48.06 | Duman | jack: like I said, get the chronometer addon |
| 02:48.21 | Duman | or whatever works these days |
| 02:48.42 | Seerah | gah... can't link to cog's macro thread :( |
| 02:48.49 | Seerah | forums are slow/not working |
| 02:48.49 | Lopeppeppy | I know, Seerah. |
| 02:48.51 | *** part/#wowuidev Firedancer (n=chatzill@cpe-74-79-154-69.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 02:48.55 | jacklondon | ok i'll do that then but what about a macro that does mouse over target of target? |
| 02:49.18 | Seerah | you want it to be on the target of your mouseover unit? |
| 02:49.21 | jacklondon | like /cast [target=[mouseover,targettarget] judgement |
| 02:49.23 | Seerah | target=mouseovertarget |
| 02:49.24 | bleeter | haha, mate of mine just rang me up and sang my 'modder with a penis' lyrics at me |
| 02:49.29 | jacklondon | ua |
| 02:49.36 | jacklondon | cool :) |
| 02:50.00 | jacklondon | so then my mouseover's target = my cast? |
| 02:50.01 | WobWork | bleeter: I hope you sang Hamster on a Piano back at him |
| 02:50.07 | Lopeppeppy | I need to be off to bed relatively soon. May I dispense any more good cheer, positive thoughts, sammiches, patience or love before I go? |
| 02:50.11 | Lopeppeppy | I also have rum.... |
| 02:50.17 | WobWork | hm sammiches |
| 02:50.20 | WobWork | I should go get lunch |
| 02:50.21 | Duman | jack yes |
| 02:50.31 | jacklondon | :) nice |
| 02:50.49 | Duman | but you'll need to specify which Judgement spell now, don't forget |
| 02:50.51 | Duman | since you have 3 :) |
| 02:50.52 | Lopeppeppy | Always remember to feed yourselves, guys. Today is stressful enough without food dep on top of that. |
| 02:51.02 | bleeter | lol 'Shut up and Use, use, use, my new mod, Use, use use, send me money, fuck you, buddy' hahahahaha |
| 02:51.19 | bleeter | WobWork: gimme a floater plsk |
| 02:51.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: sage advice, indeed. |
| 02:51.33 | jacklondon | hahhaha, man i played ret on the ptr and judge'd for 4k LOL |
| 02:51.34 | WobWork | bleeter: Nowhere near a Harry's |
| 02:51.42 | bleeter | WobWork: FAIL |
| 02:52.03 | morkii | jacklondon: ;\ |
| 02:52.03 | bleeter | WobWork: mind you, harry's is crap. if you head up the road to the cross, there's a little fish and chip shop that's freakin' awesome |
| 02:52.20 | jacklondon | lol morkii |
| 02:52.33 | bleeter | WobWork: the get real flavoured milk from down south somewhere, one day the chunks of strawberries were so big I was all 'how the hell did it get in there, it ain't comin' out' lol |
| 02:52.56 | bleeter | they |
| 02:53.01 | jacklondon | I honstly think that seal of blood is the best ret pally seal |
| 02:53.01 | morkii | jacklondon: when you kill people in 2 hits I can't heal! |
| 02:53.19 | jacklondon | lol i did ! and all i heard was ret= op |
| 02:53.33 | bleeter | WobWork: this fish is good, for sydney... still crap 'coz I'm from Slowbart where it's the best in the country :P |
| 02:53.40 | jacklondon | i got in 2 swings 9k before I even stuned |
| 02:54.02 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: Food is overrated |
| 02:54.09 | morkii | aye, it totally ruins a healers job in pvp |
| 02:54.21 | morkii | moonfire spam it is |
| 02:54.54 | jacklondon | well they fixed holy paladins in pvp |
| 02:55.06 | jacklondon | the class can outheal bursts |
| 02:55.08 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, so is sleep, but I'm gonna go do it. *wave* Night all. Stay good. |
| 02:55.15 | Shirik | nini |
| 02:55.19 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-246-45-198.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 02:55.20 | morkii | come on, with the druid changes who even needs them, take more druids imo |
| 02:55.21 | Cidan | Nini Lopeppepepepepepppepepepppy |
| 02:55.22 | Cidan | aww |
| 02:55.25 | Cidan | She vanished. |
| 02:55.58 | morkii | when we get flash at 80 anyway |
| 02:56.49 | morkii | wild growth is already awesome |
| 02:56.50 | jacklondon | for how much? |
| 02:57.40 | Amarande | oy |
| 02:57.53 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out how to buy the addon book without feeling two particular negative feelings |
| 02:58.06 | jacklondon | what have druid hps shown on ptr for 3.0.2? |
| 02:58.14 | Amarande | 1. "Ama, you bought a BOOK about programming stuff FOR WOW." |
| 02:58.36 | Syzgyn | D: I manage to log back in, and I'm missing 10 pets |
| 02:58.46 | Amarande | 2. "Ama, you've been doing so good about saving money this month and paying down the credit cards some ... now you're going and spending money on luxuries again" |
| 02:58.57 | morkii | I didn't get on ptr except to pvp so no clue on that |
| 02:59.40 | jacklondon | :/ darn |
| 02:59.41 | morkii | http://tinyurl.com/5ygr4x <- new restor spells |
| 03:00.10 | Amarande | There's just that feeling about buying a book for programming *for WoW* that makes you think that if people you know ever find out about it, you're going to be tarred as such an incredible dork. |
| 03:00.12 | Ryutsuki | Anyone know of a mod like TasteTheNaimbow that works with 3.0? |
| 03:00.25 | Dewin | what's TasteTheNaimbow? |
| 03:00.33 | Dewin | judging by the name alone, Prat *might* do it. |
| 03:00.42 | morkii | lol |
| 03:00.57 | Ryutsuki | It changes the colors of people's names in your chat window to make things a bit more distuinguishable and seperated instead of just all run together in the same colors |
| 03:01.03 | morkii | wild growth does double the healing of CoH too, so druids are pretty insane |
| 03:01.04 | Dewin | I think Prat can do that. |
| 03:01.19 | Ryutsuki | Ok. Thanks Dewin =) |
| 03:01.22 | Tem | 8gb flash drive |
| 03:01.26 | Tem | $17 |
| 03:01.29 | Tem | no fucking way |
| 03:01.29 | Dewin | Prat can colorize players by class or randomly |
| 03:01.36 | Ryutsuki | Ok. Cool =D |
| 03:01.37 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 03:01.43 | Dewin | and shows their level and stuff also, when known |
| 03:01.49 | Ryutsuki | Oh nice |
| 03:01.54 | Dewin | I started playing with it on the PTR for the first time and <3 it |
| 03:02.06 | WobWork | tem: crazy |
| 03:03.05 | Ryutsuki | Thanks. I hate the way the basic chat is in-game. to hard to seperate what everyone is saying lol |
| 03:03.14 | morkii | jacklondon: nourish is the flash equiv |
| 03:03.38 | jacklondon | ya but i just havn't seen a fast cast for full hp yet |
| 03:03.45 | morkii | Ryutsuki: i hate you for being able to get in game |
| 03:03.53 | jacklondon | for any chealer class |
| 03:04.07 | Dewin | Ryu: I haven't tested it, but it also has a 'paragraph' module that does hanging indents ;) |
| 03:04.38 | Ryutsuki | Morkii: Lol. I <3 you for hating me. =P |
| 03:04.38 | morkii | jacklondon: well its 1.5 seconds for 1883-2187 add in tol bonus and +heal etc it's pretty high and its increased by 20% if you have rejuv regrowth or lifebloom on the target |
| 03:04.49 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 03:04.49 | purl | ~~~~~~~~~~~ are YOU READY?????????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 03:05.28 | Dewin | Death knight auras or whatever it's called are handled as stances, right? |
| 03:05.42 | WobWork | oh I love October |
| 03:05.44 | WobWork | http://gfm.smh.com.au/_catalog_29891/Sugar_Hit |
| 03:05.51 | Dewin | (I don't know the correct terminology, I'm just trying to futureproof something) |
| 03:06.04 | Shirik | Dewin: Yes, but without the loss of abilities |
| 03:06.11 | End | hm |
| 03:06.14 | End | AV = bad |
| 03:06.15 | Dewin | Shirik: Stances 1 thru 3? |
| 03:06.19 | Shirik | sure |
| 03:06.22 | Dewin | And does it trigger paging on the default UI? |
| 03:07.09 | jacklondon | well at 80 its 4888 to 5444 for 2.0 or 1296 to 1402 + 4888 to 5444 base, but with 80 sp added your looking at a 6k instant + 15k 2.0 or 1.0 depending on crit, still added already including GCD |
| 03:07.27 | Dewin | meh, bleh, I'll just implement them all as macros for now >.> easier |
| 03:08.41 | jacklondon | on average your looking at 10k 2.0 cast crit 8k non given every 2.0, adding procs your probably looking at a 4k instant, with a 1.0 channeled 10k |
| 03:09.28 | Tem | you're* |
| 03:09.31 | jacklondon | but if your giving a high sp bonus your adding a 2-3k + to the heal |
| 03:09.41 | jacklondon | you're * |
| 03:09.57 | jacklondon | ntm Tier or season bonuses |
| 03:11.01 | morkii | the tooltip says ur base fol does 785 our tooltip says 1883 to 2187 |
| 03:12.26 | jacklondon | its not for fol, its hl or hs, based on 80, at 70 its hs 1258 to 1362 or 2818 to 3138. HL |
| 03:13.20 | jacklondon | fol instants wouldnt be used on the cast time proc, 1.0 HLs would be a better choice for 2818 to 3138 |
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| 03:13.31 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
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| 03:14.06 | morkii | mm yes but thats 29% of base mana |
| 03:14.42 | jacklondon | on crit its cheeper for a rejuiv |
| 03:15.46 | Dewin | hmm... can't pull up the addon info page on WoWI even logged in |
| 03:16.00 | End | he's dead jim! |
| 03:16.29 | Dewin | ~alerts |
| 03:16.38 | Dewin | or was that not the right magic word |
| 03:17.09 | WobWork | ~panic |
| 03:17.10 | purl | somebody please DO something! |
| 03:17.10 | morkii | which addon info |
| 03:17.11 | jacklondon | ntm its 50% more over heal than a rejuve |
| 03:17.21 | Dewin | morkii: Macaroon |
| 03:17.37 | Dewin | Wanted to post a bugfix and some other general stuff |
| 03:17.46 | morkii | workin fine for me :( |
| 03:17.54 | Dewin | If you actually use action IDs |
| 03:17.58 | Dewin | propogate doesn't propogate them properly |
| 03:17.59 | Ryutsuki | Hey Dewin do you know how to move the scroll bar from the middle of your chat window? lol |
| 03:18.09 | Dewin | Ryu: Scroll bar? I turned that off ;) |
| 03:18.17 | Ryutsuki | haha ok |
| 03:18.27 | morkii | jacklondon: with lifebloom nourish and wild growth rejuv is a total waste |
| 03:18.28 | Dewin | I don't use the chatframe scroll bars, I mousewheel them |
| 03:19.31 | Shirik | hi Tem|work, ping |
| 03:19.42 | Tem | Tem|work went home |
| 03:19.59 | Shirik | Remember how last night I said it was 45% for clearcasting? |
| 03:20.03 | Tem | aye |
| 03:20.10 | Shirik | I was wrong again |
| 03:20.12 | Shirik | it's 60% |
| 03:20.21 | Shirik | But that can't be right, but that's what the UI says |
| 03:20.27 | cog|away | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/MurlocsThree.jpg |
| 03:20.39 | Shirik | it appears there might be a cooldown |
| 03:20.41 | Ryutsuki | Ok. Any chance you can tell me how to turn it off? |
| 03:20.53 | Ryutsuki | lol |
| 03:21.01 | morkii | speaking of clearcasting i love omen of clarity now |
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| 03:23.00 | morkii | jacklondon: do you get any hots/group heals? |
| 03:23.45 | morkii | kind of seems like they are trying to balance us like the tanks |
| 03:25.36 | Dewin | Ryu: Sec. |
| 03:25.37 | morkii | Dewin: the new login alert says all realms are online and playable ;d |
| 03:25.43 | Dewin | IT LIES |
| 03:26.03 | Ryutsuki | No problem |
| 03:26.36 | morkii | you want to get rid of the chat scroll bar? |
| 03:26.50 | Dewin | Ryu: It took me a few minutes to find the option in Prat |
| 03:26.55 | morkii | theres totally a prat module for that |
| 03:26.58 | Dewin | I can't remember exactly what it was. |
| 03:27.03 | morkii | in the bloat of prat |
| 03:27.18 | Ryutsuki | I have prat. I'm trying to figure out what module exactly gets rid of the scroll bar lol |
| 03:27.21 | Dewin | And my level 5 warlock server went boom and my real server has yet to come up despite Blizzard's assertions to the contrary |
| 03:27.24 | Ryutsuki | cuz right now it's in the middle of my chat window lol |
| 03:27.32 | sylvanaar | what scroll bar |
| 03:27.33 | |Jelly| | Retrieving Character List |
| 03:27.34 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 03:27.42 | sylvanaar | the buttons? |
| 03:27.56 | Ryutsuki | the up and down arrows that are supposed to be to the left of the chat window |
| 03:27.57 | Dewin | |Jelly|: It's retrieving the character list from antarctica on slugback. |
| 03:28.04 | sylvanaar | buttons module |
| 03:28.14 | Ryutsuki | ah ok. thanks |
| 03:28.27 | morkii | I don't even have problems with character list, only the blue bar of death |
| 03:28.34 | kd3 | whee... "Character not found" |
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| 03:28.51 | Dewin | Actually, I think they might be using RFC1149 <http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html> to transfer the data. |
| 03:29.39 | morkii | but I can get on some servers so.. |
| 03:29.53 | Dewin | morkii: That's what makes me convinced it's not a problem on my end |
| 03:30.29 | morkii | wow |
| 03:30.32 | morkii | my server let me in! |
| 03:30.33 | bleeter | ./tar blizzservers && /comfort |
| 03:30.54 | Dewin | why would you have tar installed in the local directory? |
| 03:31.27 | bleeter | because blizzservers is also in /bin :P |
| 03:31.30 | morkii | bleeter: well they say in the alert now that all realms are up and playable |
| 03:31.47 | Dewin | tar `cat blizzservers` | feather > /dev/null |
| 03:32.42 | Amarande | say. any idea why the titan panel folks stopped using curse? |
| 03:33.37 | Ryutsuki | anyone know if Ag_unitframes is working with 3.0? I just downloaded it but my addons list says it's ood |
| 03:33.39 | morkii | I avoid curse when possible and it usually always is |
| 03:33.55 | Amarande | right now curse seems to be significantly more usable than wowi |
| 03:34.03 | Amarande | wowi gives ISE every two or three clicks |
| 03:34.28 | Dewin | ISE? |
| 03:34.29 | Amarande | actually given the number of people who play wow, I'm surprised the internet as a whole isn't bogged down |
| 03:34.31 | Dewin | oh. |
| 03:34.32 | Amarande | Internal Server Error |
| 03:34.39 | bleeter | meh, first couple of days after major patch is always hell. sane folks leave the coders to code, blizz to fix, etc. |
| 03:34.40 | Cairenn | Ryutsuki: if you downloaded the beta version linked on our survival guide, it's current |
| 03:34.45 | Dewin | earlier curse was doing that but wowi wasn't |
| 03:35.04 | bleeter | course, many wow player's aren't sane... /sigh lol |
| 03:35.10 | bleeter | =' |
| 03:35.10 | Amarande | Bleeter: actually I'm still wondering how anyone manages to play the game using the Blizzard UI :) |
| 03:35.14 | bleeter | ok, i go shoot myself now |
| 03:35.27 | morkii | Dewin: it lets me in fine now after like 5 minutes of waiting at the blue bar |
| 03:35.28 | Ryutsuki | Cairenn: Ok. Thanks. =) |
| 03:35.55 | Dewin | morkii: Good to know. |
| 03:35.58 | bleeter | Amarande: same way as any skilled computer user can use a computer despite which UI is in front of them, understanding what's going on under the hood and adjusting the workflow accordingly |
| 03:36.01 | |Jelly| | Stuck at a full loading bar now. :( |
| 03:36.04 | Dewin | My character list JUST came up, on my wife's machine at least ;) |
| 03:36.12 | morkii | wow |
| 03:36.15 | Dewin | ... hers has been sitting for about 10 minutes longer than mine |
| 03:36.20 | morkii | half my mods are blowing up lol |
| 03:36.44 | Dewin | that's what PTR is for :) |
| 03:36.45 | bleeter | guys, you do realise that with the servers blowing up the authors don't have much of a chance of verifying whether their addons work |
| 03:36.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 03:36.56 | bleeter | so hammering the crap outta interface sites is only making things worse for yourself |
| 03:37.13 | bleeter | no, PTR is at best a good test before stuff goes live. one can never guarantee that PTR = what goes live |
| 03:37.17 | Dashkal | Meh, forums down or I'd just check the sticky. What is the macro [] bit for forms? |
| 03:37.34 | Dashkal | Making a faerie fire macro that works in or out of my druid form |
| 03:37.34 | bleeter | therefore, hammering addon sites on live date is just freaking dumb, stupid, and causing more pain and heartache for those who do work for YOU |
| 03:37.36 | Dewin | bleeter: Using PTR to get my addons up to date saves a LOT of time versus having to do it when the patch goes live |
| 03:37.41 | bleeter | wihether paid by blizz, or voluntarily |
| 03:37.44 | Dewin | + it was when they *werent'* being hammered |
| 03:37.54 | bleeter | Dewin: but you cannot guarantee it'll work, you still need to see live |
| 03:37.55 | Dewin | All's I did with wowi today was check my favorites list for updates and skim the survival guide |
| 03:38.20 | bleeter | making statements in general here, Dewin, not specifc to anyone in particular. if you've taken my statement personally, i apologise, was not meant as such |
| 03:38.26 | Dewin | bleeter: this is true, but it's the best alternative available :) |
| 03:38.28 | morkii | i can't see any whispers or chat |
| 03:38.36 | Amarande | wow, there are more rogue addons on curse than for any other class but hunter |
| 03:38.45 | Amarande | that surprises me ... I always thought rogues weren't that complicated UI-wise |
| 03:38.49 | bleeter | just after .. gawd.. now 15+ years in open source, I've seen this kinda fubar behaviour from users more times than most people have had hot dinners |
| 03:38.52 | Amarande | especially compared to say warlocks or healer classes |
| 03:38.54 | bleeter | and it shits me to freakin tears |
| 03:40.03 | morkii | yes but look at population Amarande |
| 03:40.40 | Dashkal | yay wowprogramming. [stance:1/3] |
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| 03:42.38 | Amarande | meh, guess I'm gonna try titan panel |
| 03:42.45 | Tem | lawl, what for? |
| 03:43.18 | Amarande | Tem: because it seems to be slightly ahead in the up to date game compared to fubar, and I have to redo the entire UI -anyway- |
| 03:43.30 | Tem | no, I meant why use a bar at all? |
| 03:43.43 | Amarande | Tem: organizing certain questing info |
| 03:43.44 | Tem | I've found it's refreshing to not have that stuff at all |
| 03:43.53 | Amarande | I can do without most of the stuff I had in FuBar |
| 03:44.06 | morkii | Amarande: you able to see chat fine? |
| 03:44.14 | Amarande | however, there's a small handful of stuff |
| 03:44.18 | Amarande | morkii: here or in wow? |
| 03:44.55 | Amarande | like I said before, the way my other things are arranged, I *have* to have a panel-based exp tracker, because there's nowhere for me to put the Blizzard xpbar that doesn't look like ass |
| 03:45.02 | Amarande | same for rep tracker, too |
| 03:45.31 | morkii | in wow |
| 03:45.43 | morkii | i can't even see what i whisper to myself |
| 03:45.54 | Dewin | morkii: Update deadlybossmod |
| 03:45.55 | Dewin | s* |
| 03:46.01 | Dewin | its' at least one addon that was causing me issues in PTR |
| 03:46.24 | Amarande | Titan has a lot of stuff built-in, too, that I was scrounging around for separate addons for with FuBar |
| 03:46.38 | kneeki | Any ideas if Clearfont2 is still going to be updated? Or some other way to adjust font size (I dont care about changing the style, jsut the size) |
| 03:46.47 | Amarande | eg. TitanXP is *part of* TitanPanel and not a separate thing |
| 03:46.51 | Amarande | kneeki: tekticles |
| 03:47.19 | kneeki | oh? |
| 03:47.25 | morkii | i like totally disabled all my addons lol |
| 03:47.31 | ckknight | Amarande: imo, a bad system |
| 03:47.33 | morkii | i erased all of dbm already |
| 03:47.40 | Amarande | ckknight: it does mean less headache on patch day |
| 03:47.48 | Amarande | seeing as so much of Titan is thus maintained by the same people |
| 03:48.03 | ckknight | I suppose, but it denies the user some freedom |
| 03:48.04 | Amarande | while most of the FuBar addons are maintained by various authors all of whom have to fix their own stuff |
| 03:48.06 | ckknight | but oh well |
| 03:48.08 | morkii | even set simple chat |
| 03:48.32 | ckknight | Amarande: authors are people, too, all with their own motivations |
| 03:49.18 | bleeter | WobWork: ping |
| 03:49.19 | morkii | ok works fine with everything completely off |
| 03:52.23 | WobWork | bleeter: ack |
| 03:52.30 | Amarande | now here's the real question ... will good old, never updated EQCompare still work. :) |
| 03:53.18 | Tekkub | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2943767430_316fb97f1a_o.png |
| 03:53.21 | kd3 | on second thought... porting to shattrath was probably not a very good idea |
| 03:53.23 | kd3 | >.< |
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| 03:54.07 | Amarande | kd3: DC? |
| 03:54.12 | WobWork | kd3: welcome to fps 1 |
| 03:54.27 | bleeter | kd3: I suspect darnassus is your safest bet for a teleport atm ;) |
| 03:54.28 | Amarande | Can't be as bad as the time I tried to run WoW in Wine on a Linux machine with no 3D acceleration |
| 03:54.31 | morkii | oof |
| 03:54.40 | Amarande | "Frame rate: 0 fps" |
| 03:54.42 | morkii | i went to train and I think the server crashed |
| 03:54.54 | bleeter | Amarande: you should try it with the radeonhd driver :P |
| 03:54.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Why |
| 03:55.00 | ScytheBlade1 | It's my good friend |
| 03:55.03 | ScytheBlade1 | BLUE LOADING BAR |
| 03:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU FOREVER |
| 03:55.11 | ScytheBlade1 | EXCEPT FOR THE PAST HOUR |
| 03:55.12 | morkii | he should be fixed now |
| 03:55.14 | Amarande | bleeter: actually, that's what I WAS using :) |
| 03:55.32 | Amarande | I got a higher framerate with fglrx, but at the expense of the system becoming unstable |
| 03:55.34 | |Jelly| | Mine too! I <3 mah blue bar! |
| 03:55.45 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: atleast you didnt lose your flying mount yet |
| 03:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: that's why I have like, six |
| 03:56.03 | Cidan | Oh God |
| 03:56.07 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:56.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: but if I lost my hippogryph for good I'd be pissed |
| 03:56.10 | Arrowmaster | i had 2 |
| 03:56.12 | Cidan | Blessing of Kinds is at the start of Protection now |
| 03:56.14 | Cidan | er |
| 03:56.14 | Amarande | does titan panel have anything like factionsfu for fubar? |
| 03:56.14 | Cidan | Kings |
| 03:56.23 | Arrowmaster | but im afrid to get the other out of my bank |
| 03:56.48 | |Jelly| | Perhaps I shouldn't have "learned" my engineer mount? :( |
| 03:57.01 | ajmitch | wasn't it said that the mount issue is just a display problem, rather than them actually disappearing? |
| 03:57.18 | Amarande | |Jelly|, did you lose it? |
| 03:57.20 | kd3 | it's just a display problem. the server motd's begging people not to page GMs about it |
| 03:57.24 | Arrowmaster | ajmitch: well i cant mount |
| 03:57.28 | kneeki | Amarande: Is there any options for that addon? Or do I need to go through the Lua to change font sizes? |
| 03:57.35 | Arrowmaster | kd3: then how do i mount? |
| 03:57.36 | |Jelly| | I dunno. It went in the book just fine and I mounted ... but then I crashed. |
| 03:57.39 | Amarande | kneeki: no idea, I'm about to try it for the first time myself |
| 03:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: be glad you have a server motd |
| 03:57.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
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| 03:59.33 | Arrowmaster | kd3: seriously if this is just a display issue then how do i mount? |
| 03:59.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: with the API call |
| 04:00.14 | kneeki | Amarande: Change the size on line 50 to at least 14 =) |
| 04:00.14 | Ryutsuki | is Quartz casting bars operational? |
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| 04:01.13 | Thunder_Child | how the hell can you ping a target but cant tracert past the first hop |
| 04:02.05 | ajmitch | blocking those icmp messages, or tracert is using udp? |
| 04:02.23 | Thunder_Child | hmm..isnt ping also icmp? |
| 04:02.31 | ajmitch | different message type |
| 04:03.21 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, it works now but it didnt for a bit, and was rather confusing since it was chat.freenode.net |
| 04:03.45 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: damn you your gona make me have to look this up arent you |
| 04:04.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: it's an easy API. Read the stickies |
| 04:06.07 | Dewin | It's [possess] to trigger a state change when you possess something right? |
| 04:06.15 | Dewin | I can't get the forums loaded to pull up cog's sticky |
| 04:06.55 | Amarande | kneeki: what happens if you don't? :) |
| 04:07.06 | kneeki | its too small |
| 04:10.03 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.03 | End | lol |
| 04:10.07 | Dewin | bah. |
| 04:10.08 | Tem | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6D4TQ3KQW0 |
| 04:10.11 | End | I was afk by the time I got past the loading screen |
| 04:12.02 | bleeter | WobWork: I wish I was grateful and my conscience was clear, so then I could dance on your grave. |
| 04:12.04 | Ryutsuki | Has anyone used Cosmos UI in the past? |
| 04:12.35 | WobWork | bleeter: So tell me, where do you go? |
| 04:12.54 | End | I used Cosmos years and years ago |
| 04:12.57 | bleeter | WobWork: Tell me when I'm not around |
| 04:13.11 | End | I only used it for a week though, a major patch broke it |
| 04:13.24 | WobWork | bleeter: There's a place I know, where you can let your defences down |
| 04:13.56 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: i have tired everything, my mount is gone |
| 04:14.03 | Ryutsuki | Eh, I'm looking for a good alternatice to Cosmos' Party Casting Bars. Something that will show the casting bars without altering the way the individual unit frames look |
| 04:14.17 | Ryutsuki | like Cosmos ui did before 3.0 broke it >_< |
| 04:14.18 | Ryutsuki | lol |
| 04:14.21 | AnduinLothar | there isn't one |
| 04:14.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: enumerated all of your mounts? |
| 04:14.43 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:14.44 | Ryutsuki | Not one? |
| 04:14.47 | Arrowmaster | i only have 2 |
| 04:14.48 | AnduinLothar | all the cast bar addons for unit frames actually replace the unit frames last i checked |
| 04:14.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Then it's a server side display issue |
| 04:14.54 | ScytheBlade1 | gg |
| 04:14.54 | Arrowmaster | dreadsteed and felsteed |
| 04:14.56 | bleeter | WobWork: let sleeping dogs lie down in Queensway |
| 04:15.56 | Ryutsuki | Damn. I was hoping to be able to find something like Cosmos UI's casting bars, I don't think they altered the unit frames at all, but the casting bars popped up beside each fram when they were casting |
| 04:16.06 | Ryutsuki | frame* |
| 04:16.22 | bleeter | ... like a bulldozer chasing butterflies |
| 04:16.52 | Amarande | ooh |
| 04:16.56 | Amarande | Cartographer3 is <3 |
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| 04:17.09 | WobWork | bleeter: I will come for you at night time |
| 04:17.19 | WobWork | I will raise you from your sleep |
| 04:17.40 | bleeter | WobWork: gimme a break, that's track 14, we're only 2 atm |
| 04:17.44 | WobWork | hehehe |
| 04:17.49 | bleeter | some stage hand you'd make |
| 04:17.55 | WobWork | terrible blocking |
| 04:18.07 | bleeter | keep yer head above water |
| 04:18.32 | Ryutsuki | AnduinLothar: can I PM you for just a second? |
| 04:18.41 | AnduinLothar | mmhm |
| 04:18.45 | WobWork | hm, bioshock is only $30 now |
| 04:18.54 | alcaras | WobWork: is it worth getting? |
| 04:18.58 | WobWork | or $20 for you crazy americans |
| 04:19.36 | WobWork | alcaras: I havne't played it through, but what I saw was quite cool |
| 04:20.09 | Atriace | Why do I always hear about Aussies and their overpriced games? Does the government down there put a enormous tax on them or something? |
| 04:20.22 | Corrodias | eh, probably |
| 04:20.50 | Atriace | I know China limits gameplay to 3-5 hours, but come on, it couldn't possibly be that socialistic down there, right? |
| 04:21.13 | Corrodias | not socialist, just insane |
| 04:21.17 | Corrodias | australians are crazy. stay away! |
| 04:21.36 | Atriace | That's the hard part... I love aussies and their crazy cool accent. ;) |
| 04:21.39 | kd3 | hm. forums busted. realms broken |
| 04:21.41 | kd3 | <3 patch night |
| 04:22.07 | Amarande | ok, which Blizzard UI option is responsible for showing the dragons at the ends of the xpbars? |
| 04:22.11 | Cairenn | kd3: heh |
| 04:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: the core UI. There is no option. |
| 04:22.29 | Amarande | heh, why did China put limits on gaming? |
| 04:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Amarande: honest question. Why do you care? |
| 04:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | @ the Dragons, that is |
| 04:22.52 | bleeter | Amarande: simple economics. small spread across a massive distance. |
| 04:22.59 | bleeter | *small population |
| 04:23.05 | Atriace | Amarande: because they want their people to be "healthy". If they feel free to block any website arbitrarily or block iTunes, they'll limit your playtime too. |
| 04:23.08 | bleeter | bah s/amarande/atriace/ |
| 04:23.11 | bleeter | soz |
| 04:23.21 | Atriace | hehe |
| 04:23.25 | Cidan | Because it's their culture, leave it at that. =D |
| 04:23.27 | bleeter | hey, not irssi this time. 1st. |
| 04:23.36 | ajmitch | bleeter: and freight costs to this part of the world |
| 04:23.52 | Atriace | that I can buy |
| 04:24.42 | bleeter | ajmitch: that's obvious to start. you have any idea how much $ is sunk into freight equalisation schemes? |
| 04:25.01 | Amarande | Scythe: I was considering using them in my UI setup for a moment, but meh |
| 04:25.13 | Amarande | what I really want to find is a rep addon for titan, like factionsfu did for fubar |
| 04:25.18 | Dewin | Blizzard didn't fix the mount bug. >.> Cute. |
| 04:25.36 | Dewin | and if I restart to do the manual fix I'll never make it back in to wow |
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| 04:26.49 | bleeter | far as I can tell, the only thing really worth bitching about atm is seeing the blizz logo, turning down the lights and the amp up to 11 only to get the BC cinematic |
| 04:27.04 | bleeter | and even then.. meh |
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| 04:27.11 | Amarande | bleeter: fail :) |
| 04:27.13 | Cidan | Is it just me, or does the game like, crap out every... 30 seconds or so now? |
| 04:27.18 | bleeter | i didn't wake the neighbours so I failed too |
| 04:27.22 | Cidan | Like, the frame rate drops to 1 |
| 04:27.40 | Dewin | Just you. Probably an addon screaming amidst the fiery inferno of nonupdatedness |
| 04:27.46 | Amarande | switched from quartz to eCastingBar. :) |
| 04:27.51 | Amarande | now to figure out how to configgle it |
| 04:27.57 | Dewin | Quartz is broken? |
| 04:27.59 | Amarande | I'm used to all my addons having convenient FuBar clickable menus ... |
| 04:28.10 | Amarande | Dewin: there's the unitbuff thing, but otherwise it's apparently ok |
| 04:28.10 | Cidan | Dewin: Nope. I've updated everything |
| 04:28.28 | Dewin | Amarande: I'll stick with quartz then |
| 04:29.57 | bleeter | WobWork: Souvent pour s'amuser les hommes d'equipage |
| 04:30.50 | bleeter | ah noes noes! |
| 04:31.46 | kd3 | gah |
| 04:31.50 | kd3 | feels like I'm playing beta again |
| 04:32.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'M IN |
| 04:32.30 | Fisker- | Why so shudderious? |
| 04:32.43 | Dewin | ScytheBlade1: I have predicted your future, and have written it on this scrap of paper. |
| 04:32.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:33.12 | Fisker- | That's like predicting a tomorrow |
| 04:33.31 | Amarande | what's the 'mirror' bar for in eCastingBars, btw? |
| 04:33.37 | Amarande | target, own, and focus are obvious ... |
| 04:33.41 | kd3 | that's the breath/fatigue bar |
| 04:34.18 | Shirik | google is fricking amazing |
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| 04:34.35 | Shirik | How's this |
| 04:34.49 | Shirik | I heard a song on the radio today and I was like "Oh I remember that song it's really good!" |
| 04:34.56 | Shirik | I got home and didn't remember anything about it except that I liked it |
| 04:35.06 | Shirik | not the title, not the artist, not a single line |
| 04:35.08 | WobWork | and you googled "That really cool song"? |
| 04:35.11 | Shirik | Yet I managed to find it |
| 04:35.33 | Shirik | I asked it about alternative artists more recent than 2004 |
| 04:35.35 | Shirik | and found it |
| 04:35.35 | WobWork | Shirik: what did you search? |
| 04:35.48 | Shirik | I admit it took a little time |
| 04:35.50 | Shirik | but only about 15 minutes |
| 04:35.58 | Amarande | yes, titan panel definitely seems to be making me relaxed and happy and not irritated |
| 04:36.02 | Fisker- | i once fucking killed google |
| 04:36.15 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:36.21 | Amarande | are ctrl-fkeys or alt-fkeys bound by default? |
| 04:36.25 | Fisker- | It was actually quite easy when someone said i should calm and google it |
| 04:36.31 | Fisker- | calm down* |
| 04:36.34 | Amarande | (also, before I do something stupid ... CAN you rebind alt-f4 or is that a good way to bump you out of wow) |
| 04:36.55 | Shirik | btw, the song was "Roll to me" - Del Amitri |
| 04:37.04 | Fisker- | alt+f4 is a windows binding of sorts |
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| 04:37.22 | Amarande | "hey, I have ctrl bound to shoot, alt to run, and delete to jump! lemme show you my running jump shoot *DISCONNECT*" |
| 04:37.30 | End | I'm superman |
| 04:37.33 | Amarande | fisker: wow can't override it? |
| 04:37.57 | Fisker- | Probably could, but doesn't as far as i know |
| 04:38.09 | Amarande | so what happens if you bind alt-f4 to something, then? |
| 04:38.16 | Fisker- | (I onced at spells bound at the F-keys, and yeah i wanted to selfcast, doh) |
| 04:38.33 | Fisker- | once had* |
| 04:38.54 | Amarande | Fisker: alt + the spell's keybound key auto selfcasts? |
| 04:38.57 | Amarande | never knew that |
| 04:39.09 | Amarande | probably because for me, alt+numbers is always bound to the buttons on the third action bar |
| 04:39.13 | bleeter | Shirik: http://bleeter.pastey.net/98291 |
| 04:39.14 | Amarande | so that probably overrides everything |
| 04:39.29 | Amarande | first action bar = numbers |
| 04:39.32 | Amarande | second action bar = shift + numbers |
| 04:39.33 | Fisker- | You can set the self-cast button yourself |
| 04:39.35 | Amarande | third action bar = alt + numbers |
| 04:39.39 | Fisker- | or modifier that is |
| 04:39.41 | Amarande | fourth action bar = alt + shift + numbers |
| 04:39.46 | Amarande | trying to figure out what fifth action bar will be |
| 04:39.57 | Amarande | I forget if ctrl+numbers is bound to something important by default |
| 04:40.02 | Shirik | bleeter: bash? :) |
| 04:40.07 | kd3 | ama; pet actions |
| 04:40.21 | bleeter | Shirik: the document formerly known as gaims_funniest_home_convos.txt |
| 04:40.36 | Amarande | ctrl+alt+numbers then, maybe. |
| 04:40.55 | bleeter | Shirik: elb is the irc/tcl/tk dude and seanegan is now the google dude |
| 04:41.35 | Amarande | or is ctrl+alt+numbers bound by default ... |
| 04:41.55 | WobWork | bleeter: So the answer is always to ask the google dude =) |
| 04:41.56 | Amarande | I'm really not familiar with the full laundry list of default keybinds, since a lot of them I've never used :) |
| 04:42.24 | Amarande | actually, ctrl+shift+numbers is probably easier to do |
| 04:42.51 | WobWork | bleeter: I so cannot tie Pachabel's into that line there =P |
| 04:43.15 | Amarande | ok, I think I just found a bug |
| 04:43.21 | Amarande | I cannot appear to bind Ctrl+Shift+0 |
| 04:43.27 | Amarande | bartender4's kb tool just ignores it |
| 04:43.53 | Amarande | what's CS0 do normally? anything? |
| 04:44.22 | WobWork | hm, American acapella appears to be one bloke singing the melody, and everyone else doing background beat |
| 04:44.26 | WobWork | =( |
| 04:44.26 | Amarande | I can bind ctrl+shift+anything else |
| 04:44.33 | Amarande | and I can bind 0, shift-0, alt-0, alt-shift-0 |
| 04:44.36 | Amarande | but not ctrl-shift-0 |
| 04:44.38 | Amarande | any idea why this is the case? |
| 04:44.55 | kd3 | rofl @ xkcd |
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| 04:46.10 | Corgan | lol |
| 04:46.46 | Dreagar | so i updated bugsack and buggrabber, and it shows up in addons, but when i get in the game. it's not there. ;( wtf |
| 04:47.17 | Dreagar | i kinda rely on that to debug. :( anyone have a clue as to why it's not loading? |
| 04:47.23 | bleeter | WobWork: don't rock the boat, keep yer head down, yer just another fool in the crowd |
| 04:48.04 | WobWork | Everybody knows - you can be a winner |
| 04:48.20 | WobWork | C'mon, shout it out loud |
| 04:49.50 | WobWork | When the river runs dry |
| 04:50.59 | WobWork | for a good example of acapella scat http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ1MEJaye_8&feature=related |
| 04:57.39 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 05:00.36 | Corgan | no |
| 05:02.00 | Fisker- | yes |
| 05:02.02 | Fisker- | i'm eating you |
| 05:02.16 | bleeter | gah annoying video bug remains annoying video bug |
| 05:02.27 | End | Fisker-: hey! no powergaming :( |
| 05:02.37 | morkii | ooh burn they have a maintenance list up in the alert |
| 05:02.39 | Amarande | omg, they DID nerf xp needed for 60-70 |
| 05:02.51 | morkii | yes Amarande |
| 05:02.55 | Amarande | not just nerfed it, omgnerfed it |
| 05:04.07 | Fisker- | this sucks |
| 05:04.12 | Fisker- | i only slept for 5 hours :( |
| 05:04.20 | End | god, this is so weird |
| 05:04.26 | End | I have SOOO much bank space now |
| 05:04.27 | Fisker- | and ~7(yeah right) hours until the servers are up again |
| 05:04.50 | Fisker- | Yeah there's more bank space than space in your mom, lolol etc. |
| 05:04.58 | Fisker- | (had to be done) |
| 05:05.01 | End | no |
| 05:05.03 | End | It didn't |
| 05:05.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 05:05.45 | bleeter | WobWork: yannow, iv bin serchin 4 n ez wai, 2 esc teh cld lite ov dai... iv bin hi n iv bin low bt iv nowere els 2 goes :( |
| 05:05.46 | WobWork | Fisker-: This gives you another 7 hours to sleep? |
| 05:05.59 | Fisker- | I can't sleep :( |
| 05:06.01 | End | wtf, my cowtip still works |
| 05:07.23 | WobWork | in sms format |
| 05:08.39 | bleeter | cram that page baby |
| 05:10.35 | Thunder_Child | ~cram bleeter |
| 05:10.43 | Thunder_Child | Le Sigh |
| 05:10.54 | bleeter | hmmm firey and crusader still not showing on cookie's tenderizers on char selection... |
| 05:11.12 | bleeter | ~comfort Thunder_Child |
| 05:11.12 | purl | There, there, Thunder_Child. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:11.22 | Shirik | Have they not put the polar bear mount in game yet? |
| 05:11.37 | Thunder_Child | damit, i am tired of having to create purl's entries |
| 05:11.39 | bleeter | nor in game /cry |
| 05:13.46 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/MurlocsThree.jpg what do you think? |
| 05:14.02 | Shirik | so where I get it :( |
| 05:15.09 | WobWork | bleeter: http://terrifyingtales.blogspot.com/2008/09/october-14-2008-alien-visitation.html |
| 05:15.14 | WobWork | I didn't see it =( |
| 05:16.52 | WobWork | http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/ |
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| 05:17.20 | Fisker- | people are insane |
| 05:17.28 | WobWork | point in case |
| 05:17.56 | Fisker- | People are like: |
| 05:18.01 | WobWork | I don't think there's been -any- coverage here in Oz =P |
| 05:18.11 | WobWork | for which I'm kinda thankful =P |
| 05:18.14 | Amarande | I say once again btw ... Cartographer 3 is PURE <3 |
| 05:18.15 | Fisker- | "But omg they're cutting down on the game to earn money on expansions" (Regarding Starcraft 2) |
| 05:18.24 | Amarande | why did no one think of that sooner! |
| 05:18.35 | Fisker- | Me: "Err no, they're just consolidating the campaigns because story mode will suck with only 8-10 missions" |
| 05:18.43 | WobWork | You mean Starcraft 2, 2.25, 2.5 and 2.75? =) |
| 05:18.50 | Fisker- | "Oh well but then they're basically making race packs for multiplayer" |
| 05:18.58 | Fisker- | Me: "And this is different from Brood War, how?" |
| 05:19.36 | Arrowmaster | multiplayer wont change between campaign releases |
| 05:19.52 | Fisker- | It will |
| 05:19.56 | Fisker- | Well not nessecarily |
| 05:19.58 | Arrowmaster | from patches |
| 05:19.59 | Fisker- | But most likely |
| 05:20.08 | Arrowmaster | but not like drasticly |
| 05:20.23 | Fisker- | It'll just be like Brood War |
| 05:20.31 | Fisker- | You'll need Brood War to play Brood War players |
| 05:20.34 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 05:20.51 | Fisker- | Most likely it will |
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| 05:24.41 | Nom- | hah |
| 05:24.49 | Nom- | found an innacuracy in the patch notes already |
| 05:25.12 | Nom- | "# Improved Blessing of Might increased to 10/20/30/40/50%. " |
| 05:25.29 | Nom- | It's actually now a 2-point talent 12/25% |
| 05:25.33 | |Jelly| | I'd like to applaud those in this channel who have put anything into the Curse Client. As much as I really don't like how Curse is laid out, I like how this utility works. (And the fact that it works) |
| 05:25.45 | |Jelly| | HOWEVER, Shirik ... hope to it on your WoWI updater imo. |
| 05:25.46 | Nom- | so yeah... the comment that group made about innacuracies in patch notes is valid |
| 05:26.56 | WobWork | I think wowi needs a tag->syndicate |
| 05:27.58 | morkii | mm craftlist2 was breakin my chat |
| 05:28.43 | bleeter | WobWork: now the long drive has begun, north to the ocean |
| 05:29.02 | Cidan | is it a bug that retribution aura is stacking? |
| 05:29.11 | bleeter | Do you see what I see? DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEE??!! |
| 05:29.13 | Fisker- | what Nom- |
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| 05:29.18 | Fisker- | INACCURACIES IN THE PATCH NOTES? |
| 05:29.20 | Fisker- | IMPOSSIBLE |
| 05:29.43 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 05:29.43 | purl | No, really, STOP! |
| 05:30.06 | Fisker- | hows blizzcon Shirik? |
| 05:30.58 | bleeter | lol at dartol's rod |
| 05:31.05 | bleeter | lololololololololololololol |
| 05:31.08 | bleeter | EL OH EL |
| 05:31.13 | Fisker- | >:3? |
| 05:31.27 | Shirik | omg, bear mount can be used across all characters |
| 05:31.29 | Shirik | win win win |
| 05:31.38 | Shirik | don't even have to pass it back and forth since you just learn the spell and done |
| 05:31.49 | Nom- | hah |
| 05:31.50 | Nom- | nice |
| 05:31.53 | bleeter | Shirik: BoA/Heirloom item |
| 05:32.07 | bleeter | kinda thing |
| 05:32.12 | Nom- | I hope they do that for other things too... that's a kind of nifty feature if you can get account-wide stuff |
| 05:32.14 | Fisker- | Doesn't look like a seal to me >:E |
| 05:32.25 | Fisker- | And that's just fail Shirik |
| 05:32.29 | Nom- | For instance, the birdy from Kael would be a nice one to have on all characters |
| 05:32.34 | Nom- | If you were lucky enough to win one |
| 05:33.04 | Fisker- | Lets make the ~most common mount in the game more common >:3 |
| 05:39.46 | Corrodias | nightsaber? |
| 05:40.03 | Corrodias | hm, nah, probably gryphon |
| 05:43.44 | Amarande | hmm |
| 05:43.51 | Amarande | what happens if you try to edit savedvariables files manually? |
| 05:44.09 | Iriel | That depends on whether the game is running |
| 05:44.13 | Amarande | like let's say I try to copy my titan panel config between characters by copypasting within the appropriate saved variables file and changing the character name/realm on each copy |
| 05:44.15 | Amarande | game is not running |
| 05:44.21 | Iriel | then you can do whatever you need to |
| 05:44.36 | Iriel | They're just executed as lua code (except for the 'main' one which is parsed specially) |
| 05:45.28 | Amarande | Seems to be an odd thing with titan panel, too |
| 05:45.30 | Amarande | I configured it |
| 05:45.37 | Amarande | then I went to another character, tried to profile-copy like I always do |
| 05:45.43 | Amarande | and the font size on the second character is WAY TOO TINY |
| 05:45.47 | Amarande | I can't seem to fix it either |
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| 05:47.23 | Amarande | any idea why a profile copy would botch like that? |
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| 05:55.22 | Codex| | what damagemeter is everyone using now? |
| 05:55.28 | Codex| | it seems 'damagemeters' is not updated |
| 05:56.02 | Codex| | ? |
| 05:56.12 | kd3 | recount? |
| 05:56.27 | Tekkub | none? |
| 05:56.54 | ccox | recount at the moment |
| 05:56.59 | Tekkub | guess he didn't like that answer |
| 05:57.06 | ccox | and I'll be glad when they get healing to work... |
| 05:59.44 | Dewin | Hmm... anybody know of a blue response to mounts and other inventory disappearing? |
| 06:00.06 | kd3 | bug. go relog and look at the server gmotd |
| 06:00.08 | Dewin | forum search is useless, as always. |
| 06:00.09 | kd3 | there's a sticky in CSF |
| 06:00.26 | Dewin | the server gmotd doesn't describe the issue I'm having |
| 06:00.36 | Dewin | my character actually rolled back -- all talents re-refunded, pet detamed, etc. |
| 06:00.40 | Dewin | but inventory didn't roll back |
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| 06:01.01 | kd3 | page a gm? queue's going to be horrendous tonight, though |
| 06:01.16 | Nom- | heh |
| 06:01.23 | Nom- | wowi servers seem to be doing pretty well |
| 06:01.28 | Nom- | curse.. not so well |
| 06:01.57 | Dewin | hmm -- I did keep the 'Can I keep him' achievement so hmm |
| 06:02.00 | Kirov | ckknight - ping |
| 06:02.22 | Dewin | I can't even /cast mine, which makes me doubt it's a display issue |
| 06:02.53 | Dewin | and my Mounts Owned statistic is -- |
| 06:03.20 | Nom- | hmm server crashing ? |
| 06:03.44 | Dewin | oh that's weird. |
| 06:04.00 | Dewin | My talents rolled back. I changed stablemaster pets and that kept. |
| 06:04.17 | Nom- | First step when logging on tonight: Go do Leeeeeeeeeeroy! |
| 06:06.18 | Fisker- | kd3 zomg missing mount >:3 |
| 06:06.28 | Amarande | haha |
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| 06:06.35 | Amarande | trade chat is saying horde gets DKs a month before alliance :) |
| 06:06.43 | Kirov | Anyone here use Fubar? |
| 06:06.44 | Codex| | anyone having trouble getting a chatframe to recognize channels and remember background colors? |
| 06:08.28 | Amarande | Kirov: Ex-FuBar user here. :) |
| 06:09.06 | Tekkub | so is there an inscription trainer in shatt now so we can go to 375 on live, or does it still cap at 300? |
| 06:09.14 | Amarande | the short of it: "because titan panel was more ready for 3.0 than fubar was" |
| 06:10.03 | Arrowmaster | fubar works fine in 3.0 |
| 06:10.11 | Arrowmaster | nothing at all needed done |
| 06:10.12 | Amarande | Arrow: the problem isn't fubar |
| 06:10.20 | Amarande | the problem is that the things *for* FuBar aren't as ready as the ones for Titan Panel |
| 06:10.44 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 06:10.49 | Arrowmaster | its titan panel |
| 06:11.16 | Kirov | My problem with FuBar is there isn't any place to redownload most of the fubar plugins |
| 06:11.30 | Arrowmaster | curse? |
| 06:11.42 | Kirov | ClockFu, LocationFu, DurabilityFu |
| 06:11.47 | Kirov | The default ones aren't included |
| 06:11.57 | Arrowmaster | because there arent any 'default' ones |
| 06:11.59 | kd3 | found em just fine on curse. they should be in the client too |
| 06:12.21 | Kirov | ClockFu? |
| 06:12.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 06:12.47 | Tekkub | yes because 3.0 broke so many things :P |
| 06:13.03 | Kirov | I know fubar doesn't have any "default" plugins, ala Titan |
| 06:13.21 | Tekkub | IMMUNE |
| 06:13.29 | Kirov | It's more the fact that there are so many common ones that simply don't exist. |
| 06:13.30 | bleeter | EVADE damn hax |
| 06:13.50 | Arrowmaster | what common ones? |
| 06:14.07 | Tekkub | if they don't exist, how are they common? |
| 06:14.15 | Arrowmaster | thats what i was thinking |
| 06:14.32 | bleeter | their lack of existence is their commonality |
| 06:14.54 | Tekkub | schrodinger's fubar? |
| 06:15.04 | Kirov | They dont' exist any more |
| 06:15.05 | bleeter | i'd pay to d/l that |
| 06:15.09 | Kirov | They used to be on files.wowace.com |
| 06:15.15 | Kirov | But they're not there on curse |
| 06:15.15 | Arrowmaster | yes they do |
| 06:15.18 | Arrowmaster | nothing was lost |
| 06:15.23 | Arrowmaster | you just fail at searching |
| 06:15.25 | Tekkub | you don't know if the download is done until you install it |
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| 06:16.00 | bleeter | the phat d/l ain't over until the drive is full |
| 06:16.04 | Tekkub | fucking eh... there isn't an inscription trainer or a lexicon of power in shatt at all yet, is there? |
| 06:16.08 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.13 | Codex| | my client is forgetting my chat frame background color on each login and setting it to white, and my general chat tab which has all the filters enabled, is not picking up anything except for initial addon loading messages |
| 06:16.59 | Codex| | any ideas? |
| 06:17.03 | |Jelly| | Any enhancement shammies around? |
| 06:17.17 | bleeter | i've got an idea... MOAR COFFEE |
| 06:18.02 | Arrowmaster | Codex|: disable addons |
| 06:18.33 | erikd | can anyone point me in the direction of getting prat to put my text input box above my chat frame instead of under it? in the old version it would automatically go on top if there wasn't room below |
| 06:19.44 | Codex| | erikd: im trying to find that option right now as well |
| 06:19.48 | kd3 | "old version"? |
| 06:19.58 | erikd | prat 2 |
| 06:20.03 | erikd | as opposed to prat 3 |
| 06:20.46 | erikd | basically what i had before was a "general" chat frame on the bottom, the text input in the middle and guild/whispers above the input box |
| 06:21.15 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember it doing it 'automaticly' before, it was an option in the editbox module |
| 06:21.33 | sylvanaar | editbox module |
| 06:21.37 | erikd | ah, i never had to set the option before. i figured it was automatic :) |
| 06:21.42 | sylvanaar | turn it on |
| 06:22.06 | sylvanaar | because its not working fully so i left it off |
| 06:22.33 | erikd | ah, gotcha |
| 06:23.35 | Tem | does anyone know of a button facade plugin to skin the blizzard buffs? |
| 06:28.40 | Tekkub | Cairenn made me a drunk |
| 06:28.44 | Tekkub | she got me sick |
| 06:28.48 | Tekkub | so I had to buy OJ |
| 06:28.54 | Tekkub | OJ always requires vodka |
| 06:29.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:30.07 | Tekkub | sad part? we have this big ass bottle of vodka, it's only got like 1/6 left, and this is the first time I've drank any |
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| 06:32.19 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228502958&sid=1#19 <-Is that guy retarded? |
| 06:32.35 | Fisker- | "Oh Blizzard banned me because they are unable to distinguish their own gameplay features from hacks" |
| 06:32.35 | bleeter | Fisker-: a post to a wow forum? yes. |
| 06:33.04 | Fisker- | /popcorn though |
| 06:33.27 | bleeter | Fisker-: that kinda argument gets thrown out, in different variants, each ban wave. |
| 06:33.32 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228502958&sid=1&pageNo=2#21 <-wut why would something be fishy in Denmark? :( |
| 06:33.36 | Fisker- | Other than me of course |
| 06:33.45 | bleeter | to be sure, some bans are mistakenly applied, but seem very very rare |
| 06:33.50 | AnduinLothar | Hammer of Wrath is now the best spell ever |
| 06:33.58 | Fisker- | Depends how you define "mistake" |
| 06:34.11 | bleeter | Fisker-: Princess Mary. |
| 06:34.21 | Fisker- | Being banned because, for example, your account was compromised and used for hacks isn't really a mistake :P |
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| 06:35.32 | Fisker- | What's so fishy about Mary btw? :E |
| 06:35.46 | bleeter | she went to taroona high school fer goodness sake |
| 06:35.48 | bleeter | nuff said |
| 06:35.57 | morkii | is it normal that buggrabber would give me an error |
| 06:36.13 | Fisker- | It grabs bugs? |
| 06:36.30 | Fisker- | AnduinLothar holy paladins are the worst healers ever /wrists :( |
| 06:36.38 | bleeter | Fisker-: old high school animosity between mine and hers ;) |
| 06:36.46 | AnduinLothar | fuck that. this is the most fun i've had in pvp ever |
| 06:37.02 | morkii | it is erroring itself though |
| 06:37.08 | AnduinLothar | I've been getting double the KB of anyone else in AV |
| 06:37.15 | morkii | attempt to call libstub a nil value |
| 06:37.15 | Fisker- | awright bleeter :3 |
| 06:37.19 | AnduinLothar | and it only lasts like 10-15min |
| 06:37.30 | Amarande | yay, addons under control finally |
| 06:37.36 | Fisker- | Could be a libstub problem |
| 06:37.46 | Amarande | though hopefully the Titan Panel guild addon gets updated sooner than later |
| 06:37.46 | Fisker- | I wouldn't know since our realms ain't gonna be up for a couple of weeks |
| 06:38.22 | morkii | O_o |
| 06:38.48 | Cidan | Cairenn: You still alive? |
| 06:38.52 | Cairenn | nope |
| 06:39.00 | Cairenn | I'm a figment of your imagination |
| 06:39.12 | Fisker- | Mine as well? |
| 06:39.14 | zenzio | your in our imaginations at least |
| 06:39.23 | Cidan | D= |
| 06:39.24 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:39.28 | Cairenn | what's up luv? |
| 06:39.33 | Cidan | Cairenn: I don't suppose I could ask you for a small favor? |
| 06:39.33 | Fisker- | oh the things you'll be doing to me |
| 06:39.38 | Cairenn | possibly |
| 06:39.41 | Fisker- | First you'll op me |
| 06:39.42 | zenzio | what's it coming to... I'm messing up your/you're now QQ |
| 06:39.44 | Fisker- | and that's about it |
| 06:39.45 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 06:39.49 | Cidan | Could you pop control of RDX.Cid back to me? I'm going to put an update for it up. |
| 06:39.51 | bleeter | Cairenn: you've been a figment of most # member's imagination since last year's blizzcon photos came out :P |
| 06:40.00 | Cidan | I know Shirik won't mind |
| 06:40.02 | Cairenn | bleeter: hehehe |
| 06:40.16 | Shirik | rawr |
| 06:40.19 | Cairenn | Cidan: link to mod & to your user account, please |
| 06:40.26 | Cidan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5680-RDX.Cid.html |
| 06:40.29 | Cidan | Account is Cidan |
| 06:40.34 | bleeter | did anyone get a shot of Seerah's butt this year? |
| 06:40.45 | Cairenn | need your user id #, hence asking for the link ;) |
| 06:41.05 | Cidan | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=40189 |
| 06:41.20 | Cairenn | done |
| 06:41.30 | Cidan | Shirik: Just putting up an update to it, I've had like, a billion people on Eredar ask me for a new version. |
| 06:41.41 | Shirik | I don't care |
| 06:41.45 | Cidan | Cairenn: You are a wonderful woman. |
| 06:41.50 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:42.14 | Lyn | the wow update takes hours :< |
| 06:42.18 | Cairenn | there were no butt-shots this year |
| 06:42.20 | Lyn | i just have 20 minutes left ffs |
| 06:42.24 | Cairenn | at least, not that I'm aware of |
| 06:42.30 | bleeter | FALE |
| 06:42.40 | Shirik | I haven't developed my film yet Cairenn |
| 06:42.44 | Shirik | and you might never know for sure |
| 06:42.48 | bleeter | oO |
| 06:42.58 | bleeter | celluloid cellulose? |
| 06:43.00 | Cairenn | Shirik: if there had been, they would have been posted already, of that I'm quite sure |
| 06:43.03 | bleeter | rare these days |
| 06:43.23 | Cairenn | since I know you guys couldn't have resisted showing off my thongs :p |
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| 06:46.27 | Cidan | ~stab Shirik|zZz |
| 06:46.27 | purl | ACTION runs at Shirik|zZz with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:46.34 | End | Leeeeeeeeeeeeeroy! |
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| 06:48.34 | Shirik | rawr |
| 06:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | sigh |
| 06:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Posted on the guild forums, "I'm leaving to start my own guild" |
| 06:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Instantly two posts pop up |
| 06:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | "Our leader just stepped down, we have a vacancy, why leave us now when you want to lead???" |
| 06:51.30 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 06:51.34 | Shirik | lolol |
| 06:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Like |
| 06:51.47 | ScytheBlade1 | *stab**& |
| 06:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "Because, while I want to lead, I don't want to lead you jokers." |
| 06:51.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Wellllllllll |
| 06:52.06 | ScytheBlade1 | There's probably more truth to that than you intended, NightHawkTheSane |
| 06:52.15 | Lyn | fun |
| 06:52.21 | kd3 | rofl |
| 06:52.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: it just seemed like a good guess. ;) |
| 06:52.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 06:53.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I apped where I am now for the people and the enviroment |
| 06:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Not for the sub-600 DPS on BT bosses on farm out of rogues |
| 06:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | So that was fun to reply to |
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| 07:02.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn|afk: ouch |
| 07:02.50 | Semhirage | anyone know of a drdamage like mod thats working in 3.0? |
| 07:04.01 | durcyn | Semhirage: DrDamage works, you just have to comment out the removed priest spells |
| 07:04.45 | Semhirage | i see |
| 07:04.46 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: is drdamage updated with new coefficiants, though? |
| 07:04.54 | Semhirage | was just gonna ask that |
| 07:04.56 | durcyn | oh, good point |
| 07:05.00 | durcyn | no. |
| 07:05.02 | Semhirage | cuz as a pally, all my shit is changed |
| 07:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | if not, it's pretty worthless. ;) |
| 07:05.17 | NightHawkTheSane | that said, i dont know of any replacement. |
| 07:05.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i know i saw gagorian asking someone if they wanted to take over in #wowace, though. :\ |
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| 07:06.09 | NightHawkTheSane | er, asking anyone, not someone in particular, to be sure |
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| 07:14.33 | AnduinLothar | 5cap woot |
| 07:15.10 | Fisker- | i want to be ret AnduinLothar :( |
| 07:15.29 | AnduinLothar | respec |
| 07:15.34 | Fisker- | Only got healing gear |
| 07:15.44 | Duman | heh |
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| 07:18.07 | Semhirage | go buy the blue rep ret gear |
| 07:18.36 | Semhirage | my gf was in that + a few (< 4) epics and she was pulling 800+ dps in H MgT before the servers went down |
| 07:19.41 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know if closetgnome is broken or working? I can't get it to show up on fubar and I'm not sure why |
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| 07:22.50 | Tekkub | hrm... crush leftovers and make glyphs, or just sell the raw herbs at a horrible markup? |
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| 07:26.44 | morkii | hmm |
| 07:27.16 | morkii | do you have to have inscription as a prof to get the discovered ones? |
| 07:31.18 | selckin | no |
| 07:32.44 | morkii | sweet |
| 07:32.53 | morkii | that in reagents for rebirth is crazy |
| 07:35.26 | zenzio | anyone know if the EU realm status page is not trustworthy at the moment? The notice on the page says the servers should be down for another four and a half hours, but all the servers are listed as up o_O |
| 07:36.52 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178088055&sid=1 |
| 07:36.56 | Thunder_Child | why is there no PPV blizzcon torrent up yet! |
| 07:37.34 | Fisker- | /wrists Thunder_Child |
| 07:37.46 | Fisker- | Btw i were told you'd like to subscribe to my newsletter |
| 07:37.54 | Fisker- | Especially regarding a quest in Storm Peaks |
| 07:38.05 | Thunder_Child | Fisker-, i had to miss some so i would like to see it in better quality than youtube |
| 07:38.14 | Fisker- | There's a quest in Storm Peaks where you ride a bear, but that bear quest is unBEARable |
| 07:38.15 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 07:38.55 | Tem | it's not that bad, Fisker- |
| 07:38.55 | End | then you go drake jumping |
| 07:39.02 | Tem | drake jumping is hax |
| 07:39.03 | End | I can't think of a good pun for jumping drakes though |
| 07:39.13 | End | well, Fisker-'s pun was pretty bad |
| 07:39.15 | End | but still |
| 07:39.15 | Tem | also, I _need_ a proto drake |
| 07:40.36 | Fisker- | well Tem it may have been fixed since |
| 07:40.45 | Fisker- | But you like had to go on about that quest for like half an hour |
| 07:40.51 | Fisker- | Not to mention the stupid corpseruns |
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| 07:41.14 | Thunder_Child | dont die |
| 07:41.37 | End | weird |
| 07:41.40 | End | I had no issues |
| 07:41.55 | End | and I did it when they finally stopped crashing from it |
| 07:43.12 | Fisker- | Thunder_Child you can't actually control it |
| 07:43.15 | Fisker- | So not much to do |
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| 07:44.45 | |Jelly| | yay! Memory Dump Blue Screens! |
| 07:44.49 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.37 | AnduinLothar | we're not OP, i still get pwned by warlocks |
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| 07:52.46 | AnduinLothar | but i can fuck up a hunter any day of the week |
| 07:57.55 | zenzio | AnduinLothar: hehe, that must make them cry :-) |
| 07:58.33 | AnduinLothar | i walk up to them and they die before they can move |
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| 07:59.03 | AnduinLothar | and if they try to run they're jsticed already |
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| 08:04.44 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.08 | AnduinLothar | which is that? |
| 08:05.34 | kd3 | tree form druid getting banished and then ending the duel before getting unbanished |
| 08:05.45 | kd3 | with a hot up |
| 08:07.16 | |Jelly| | Any idea why WoW (with <40mb addons) is using 1GB of RAM? |
| 08:07.33 | AnduinLothar | cause it can |
| 08:07.47 | |Jelly| | Well isn't that nice of it. |
| 08:07.57 | kd3 | system requirements changed with yesterday's patch. isn't 1gig the lower bound of what they suggest now? |
| 08:08.08 | |Jelly| | I have 3 |
| 08:08.19 | |Jelly| | it's using 1 by it's self. |
| 08:08.38 | Corrodias | well, back in the day, i recall it using only a few hundred |
| 08:08.47 | Corrodias | that's a significant enough change to warrant asking the question |
| 08:09.42 | Neuro_Medivh | back in the day, we only had 32 kilobytes of ram, and it was enough to go to the moon! |
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| 08:12.19 | Nom- | wowzers |
| 08:12.24 | Nom- | wtb more hours in the day |
| 08:12.56 | Nom- | I've got enough work here to keep 3 people busy for 4 weeks, and it all needs to be done by the 31st |
| 08:13.03 | klip | give me your acc/pass and you'll have plenty of that :p |
| 08:13.14 | klip | hm, I see |
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| 08:13.28 | klip | :) |
| 08:13.36 | kd3 | whee, rolling restarts for all (excl 1 battlegroup) in 2.75 hours |
| 08:13.56 | Nom- | DAMNIT |
| 08:14.04 | Nom- | I hope quick restarts |
| 08:14.16 | Nom- | Coz I finish work in 1.75 hours |
| 08:14.37 | Dewin | kd3: Really? Hmm |
| 08:14.45 | Dewin | did they say why? |
| 08:15.01 | klip | do you know http://apina.nwpshost.com/8612.jpg - OH LOOK It's World of Warcraft ? :) |
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| 08:15.42 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228373118&sid=1 |
| 08:15.58 | kd3 | does blizz ever say why they're doing stuff? |
| 08:16.04 | Xinhuan | vanished mounts? |
| 08:16.04 | Dewin | Sometimes.' |
| 08:16.31 | Dewin | Xinhuan: My server came up. I, in this order, spent my talents, learned my mounts, changed stabled pets, spent my new pet's talents. |
| 08:16.37 | Dewin | Went to the isle of queldanas |
| 08:17.04 | Dewin | Server crashed. Restarted instantly (odd...). I logged back in. In Shattrath, with all of my talents unlearned, my mount items out of my inventory but not learned, but my pet talents stayed. |
| 08:17.24 | Dewin | this is Earthen Ring, which only started working properly around 8:30 PST |
| 08:17.50 | Dewin | so half of my character saved and the other half rolled back. |
| 08:18.02 | Dewin | cannot even /cast Swift Frostsaber |
| 08:18.06 | kd3 | yeah. I'm missing a bunch of my mounts/pets too. thankfully I got some of the consumption achievements out of the way (yay mailing brewfest goodies around to get past the 2day timer) |
| 08:18.39 | Dewin | I'm missing all and don't have enough gold to buy replacements atm :) |
| 08:18.59 | Dewin | and I know it's not just a display issue, since the statistics report I have no mounts, and /cast does not work |
| 08:20.12 | Dewin | Epic Items Acquired: 3. |
| 08:20.16 | Dewin | .... I'm wearing all purples |
| 08:20.25 | kd3 | unequip/reequip |
| 08:21.29 | Dewin | still only shows 3 |
| 08:21.33 | Dewin | though it registers 16 in item slots |
| 08:21.41 | Duman | unf |
| 08:21.43 | Duman | I should sleep |
| 08:21.51 | Duman | bug forum is a mess, lol |
| 08:21.59 | Duman | maaven will have fun tomorrow |
| 08:22.07 | kd3 | I'm not even looking right now. will check back when I wake up |
| 08:22.40 | Duman | I wish you could punch people in the throat over the internet |
| 08:23.02 | Dewin | Duman: this is what goatse and 2girls1cup are for |
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| 08:26.24 | Tem | I wish vista would consult me before closing all my programs and restarting |
| 08:26.53 | nevcairiel | it probably did at some point, and you said "you go ahead" |
| 08:27.17 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: LOL |
| 08:27.17 | cladhaire | that's me |
| 08:27.19 | cladhaire | hahahaha |
| 08:27.26 | cladhaire | how effing random can you get :P |
| 08:27.36 | nevcairiel | what now |
| 08:27.56 | cladhaire | i'm healing you |
| 08:27.59 | cladhaire | in moonglade |
| 08:28.00 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 08:28.13 | nevcairiel | I'm doing addon stuff, i didnt actually pay attention |
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| 08:29.01 | cladhaire | i was on working on LH |
| 08:29.01 | cladhaire | lol |
| 08:29.08 | nevcairiel | i fixed BT4 stuff |
| 08:29.09 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:29.13 | cladhaire | just logged onto one of my druid copies to test out wild growth |
| 08:30.34 | Tem | ugh |
| 08:30.47 | Tem | Aldor Rise, why do you hate me so? |
| 08:30.58 | Tekkub | the rise doesn't hate you |
| 08:31.01 | Tekkub | gravity does |
| 08:31.20 | Tekkub | and it's less "hate" and more "mockery" really |
| 08:31.26 | kd3 | it's not the fall that kills you, but the sudden stop at the end |
| 08:31.29 | Tekkub | "Look at this fool, he does this every day" |
| 08:31.42 | zenzio | Gravity: The real Fatal Attraction. |
| 08:31.49 | Tekkub | "wait for it... oh... oh... and boom goes the dynamite" |
| 08:31.50 | Tem | I need to get friendly with the scryers |
| 08:31.55 | Tem | you can survive that fall at least |
| 08:32.15 | cladhaire | wow |
| 08:32.18 | cladhaire | living seed is VERY nice |
| 08:32.27 | Tekkub | and oh so kinky |
| 08:32.46 | zenzio | please capitalize such things cladhaire... to avoid references like Tekkub's |
| 08:32.46 | cladhaire | mmm |
| 08:32.47 | Tekkub | I'd let a tauren put his seed in me any night |
| 08:32.49 | cladhaire | lseed stacks |
| 08:33.07 | nevcairiel | regrowth with regrowth glyph is still so awesome |
| 08:33.13 | cladhaire | i need to get it |
| 08:33.15 | cladhaire | but yeah i bet :P |
| 08:33.19 | nevcairiel | with nature's grace specced |
| 08:33.44 | Tem | cladhaire, unless Living Seed has changed recently, it isn't even half as good as you say it is |
| 08:33.55 | cladhaire | Tem: its free healing |
| 08:33.57 | cladhaire | how is that ever bad? |
| 08:34.12 | Dewin | so... I raid alot... should I assume some other hunter will have glyph of hunter's mark or should I get it myself >.> |
| 08:34.28 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: it used to only count effective heal into the 30%, not overheal .. not sure if that was fixed.. |
| 08:34.38 | Tem | it uses effective heal only (if you heal for 0 because it's all overheal, you get a seed that heals for 0) |
| 08:34.43 | cladhaire | i think that's still the case |
| 08:34.43 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 08:34.45 | cladhaire | so you can't prebuff |
| 08:34.47 | cladhaire | its still free healing |
| 08:34.52 | cladhaire | and that will be nice in some places |
| 08:34.58 | cladhaire | its worth 3 talent points imo |
| 08:35.15 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: can't get wild growth and nature's grace tho |
| 08:35.17 | nevcairiel | its definately better then replenish |
| 08:35.18 | cladhaire | which is poop |
| 08:35.23 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: not on 70, right |
| 08:35.31 | cladhaire | oh durr |
| 08:35.32 | cladhaire | i'm 70 |
| 08:35.33 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 08:36.23 | cladhaire | weokay |
| 08:36.25 | cladhaire | LightHeaded updated |
| 08:36.35 | cladhaire | TomTom should be no more broken than it was on live |
| 08:36.39 | cladhaire | as long as the EP map didn't change yet |
| 08:36.56 | cladhaire | Now I need to oUF PerfectRaid without telling anyone that I'm doing it and I can sleep |
| 08:37.00 | cladhaire | after this seminar =( |
| 08:37.07 | kd3 | epl/sw maps both got rescaled |
| 08:37.12 | Tem | cladhaire, the epl map changed |
| 08:37.29 | cladhaire | oh boo |
| 08:37.29 | cladhaire | then hopefully easmynn pushed the astrolabe data |
| 08:37.39 | nevcairiel | i think he did |
| 08:37.45 | cladhaire | yewp |
| 08:37.46 | cladhaire | looks it |
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| 08:38.24 | sylvanaar | i posted tests of the seed |
| 08:39.03 | sylvanaar | its bugged, and hence worthless as it heals for 0 most of the time |
| 08:39.13 | nevcairiel | its probably intended |
| 08:39.15 | sylvanaar | no |
| 08:39.28 | nevcairiel | it heals 0 if you did a full overheal |
| 08:39.31 | sylvanaar | if it were then whoever wrote it was a retard |
| 08:39.41 | sylvanaar | no ill explain |
| 08:39.50 | sylvanaar | if you do partial over heal |
| 08:39.59 | sylvanaar | and the seed has a value |
| 08:40.52 | sylvanaar | when you are hit, if your hp deficit < the amount of the overheal the seed heals for 0 and says its value is all overheal |
| 08:41.45 | sylvanaar | and you are not at full health |
| 08:42.14 | sylvanaar | so broken |
| 08:44.26 | sylvanaar | so it uses the full value of your hp+the heal which proced it as your max hp somewhere in its calculation |
| 08:45.11 | phyber | sometimes my projects end up bumped in my project list even though i haven't made any updates on them. is the files thing regenerating the files with newer libs and pushing them to the top of the list? |
| 08:45.32 | phyber | or... the ordering looks random anyway. meh :) |
| 08:46.32 | End | the icon for the achievement to kill varian is creepy |
| 08:50.36 | sylvanaar | i wonder if any of the major "god mode" bugs made it into live |
| 08:51.45 | Tem | there are |
| 08:51.56 | Tem | it's the ret tree |
| 08:52.13 | sylvanaar | are you going to say the stun |
| 08:52.42 | sylvanaar | im talking the 1million dps bugs |
| 08:52.57 | sylvanaar | 1 shot 25 man raid bosses type |
| 08:53.18 | Tem | I was just saying rets in general |
| 08:53.24 | sylvanaar | oh lol yeah |
| 08:53.28 | Tem | I'm honestly surprized they went live like this |
| 08:53.49 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: how do I use OptionsFrame_OpenToCategory() with an AceConfig AddToBlizz() panel? |
| 08:55.10 | cladhaire | hrm, nvm |
| 08:57.22 | sylvanaar | tbc went live with op druid bears |
| 08:57.53 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: it returns the frame registerd from that call, so you can pass that to OpenToCat |
| 08:58.07 | cladhaire | I figured it out, was being stoopid :P |
| 08:58.09 | cladhaire | thanks ;-) |
| 09:00.19 | Tem | sylvanaar, a tank spec is less of a big deal than a dps spec |
| 09:00.24 | Tem | imo |
| 09:00.52 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know - but remember they were tanks that had really high dps |
| 09:01.44 | sylvanaar | yeah, dks and pallies, too many of em |
| 09:02.31 | sylvanaar | esp since dk's are a direct counter class to druids |
| 09:02.39 | sylvanaar | and everyone will have one |
| 09:06.03 | nevcairiel | man you know that Cairenn is actually sleeping, my addon is been in the queue for 30 minutes! :D |
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| 09:06.42 | sylvanaar | wotlk: "its your turn to heal go respec, i healed for the last 2 bosses" |
| 09:06.48 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:07.18 | Kalroth | sylvanaar: That exact topic came up in the guild and it made me glad our roster is based on class AND spec. :) |
| 09:07.30 | nevcairiel | yeah our roster is spec based too |
| 09:07.37 | nevcairiel | no "you're a druid, spec what we need" |
| 09:07.58 | Kalroth | We still got a lot of people respeccing, but that's mainly because Sunwell is a pita and needs 15 different specs per encounter |
| 09:08.14 | nevcairiel | same, but we dont force people to |
| 09:08.17 | nevcairiel | we just ask nicely |
| 09:08.29 | Kalroth | We pay for the respec. :) |
| 09:08.35 | nevcairiel | that too |
| 09:08.52 | nevcairiel | usually our ele shaman to heal for twins |
| 09:08.53 | sylvanaar | you can force people into a spec for certain special fights, but having an easy respec is too much of a temptation for people |
| 09:09.12 | Kalroth | We got a paladin that's prot for Kalecgos, holy for Brut, prot for Felmyst, holy for Twins, prot for M'uru and KJ. :) |
| 09:09.29 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: hah, ours is ret for brut! |
| 09:09.32 | nevcairiel | but same deal otherwise |
| 09:09.36 | Tem | DKs are NOT a direct counter to druids |
| 09:09.43 | sylvanaar | lies |
| 09:09.54 | Tem | I've played one to 80 |
| 09:10.02 | sylvanaar | removing mah lifebloom without making it proc |
| 09:10.11 | sylvanaar | "its not a dispell" |
| 09:10.19 | Tem | that's pretty harsh |
| 09:10.30 | Tem | but remember that not all of your healing is lifebloom now |
| 09:10.37 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 09:10.45 | sylvanaar | you take the other ones off too |
| 09:11.01 | Tem | nourish imo |
| 09:11.07 | sylvanaar | hahahahahahahahahaha |
| 09:11.08 | Tem | also regrowth |
| 09:11.15 | Tem | yes I know |
| 09:11.21 | Tem | it's the quickest way to make you oom |
| 09:11.21 | nevcairiel | nourish is a joke |
| 09:11.29 | sylvanaar | no resto druid uses nourish unless they have 4pc t7 |
| 09:11.44 | nevcairiel | regrowth is pretty nice, but its tsill a cast that one can interrupt |
| 09:11.51 | sylvanaar | actually glyphed ht is faster to oom |
| 09:13.04 | sylvanaar | its ok because with a dk you are getting snared pulled back (when distance is druids primary defense) |
| 09:13.47 | sylvanaar | we cant remove disease |
| 09:13.57 | sylvanaar | how are you not a direct counter? |
| 09:14.58 | Tem | let me snare you twice |
| 09:15.00 | Tem | then run away |
| 09:15.05 | Tem | I now have no frost runes |
| 09:15.39 | leethal | so, the secure templates has no way to group, say, party members and party pets. But, it has to be possible to position the frames so that they line up next to eachother? |
| 09:16.01 | Tem | leethal, have you tried the raid header? |
| 09:16.08 | sylvanaar | then what? keep running? |
| 09:16.29 | Tem | also, root me |
| 09:16.34 | Tem | I have ZERO ways to counter a kite |
| 09:16.40 | sylvanaar | yeah i do that |
| 09:17.00 | leethal | Tem: not really, I'm at that section of the world of warcraft programming book atm ; ) |
| 09:17.08 | leethal | Tem: I'll have that in mind! |
| 09:17.11 | sylvanaar | you have death grip though what is it 20 second cooldown |
| 09:17.23 | Tem | 35 |
| 09:18.11 | nevcairiel | cladhaire: can has wowi approve? :) |
| 09:19.15 | Tem | trust me, sylvanaar. A good druid can keep out of melee on me |
| 09:21.37 | sylvanaar | but not kill you |
| 09:26.12 | sylvanaar | then again i dont have many 1 on 1 pvp encounters |
| 09:33.15 | Elkano | rename it into discontinued ;) |
| 09:34.22 | Maldivia | tem: have you worked with the secure raid header in 3.0 ? |
| 09:34.33 | Tekkub | healbot tobecontinued |
| 09:35.00 | Tem | negative |
| 09:35.28 | Maldivia | because they don't just work anymore :| |
| 09:36.37 | Maldivia | they don't seem to be able to create new frame while in combat (for instance if someone joins the raid mid-fight, or a pet is summoned etc) |
| 09:37.22 | Maldivia | but unfortunately, haven't had the time to investigate further, if it's just something that has changed with the new state driver mechanism |
| 09:37.34 | Tem | hmm |
| 09:37.47 | Tem | nothing changed that should have broken them |
| 09:38.23 | Maldivia | yeah, that's what I thought, and couldn't really find the problem in my code, as it worked without problems in 2.x |
| 09:38.56 | Maldivia | got a nice error message stating something about the secure frames and being in combat |
| 09:39.45 | Maldivia | I'll investigate further tonight :) |
| 09:40.16 | Thunder_Child | ~kick Esamynn|Away |
| 09:40.17 | purl | ACTION kicks Esamynn|Away |
| 09:40.26 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn|Away, make a higher pic max!! |
| 09:40.36 | Thunder_Child | s/pic/pic size/ |
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| 09:49.29 | sylvanaar | have any of you tried vslua |
| 09:52.50 | ReAn | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/kotaku/full/~3/420362522/barack-obama-campaigns-on-burnout-paradise |
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| 10:34.33 | WobWork | http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/77646371/11744575 |
| 10:35.37 | Fisker- | Someone claiming that everyone in europe is having problems with connecting to Blizzard's servers |
| 10:35.43 | Fisker- | http://i36.tinypic.com/9k749w.jpg |
| 10:35.55 | Fisker- | Seems to describe the mentality of said poster >:3 |
| 10:41.00 | Elkano | ok, FactionFu working again... GuildFu next ^^ |
| 10:43.16 | Elkano | ok, working fine, too <3 |
| 10:45.11 | Nom- | wooooooooooooot |
| 10:45.15 | Nom- | my realm not being restart |
| 10:45.34 | nevcairiel | What are the bets on EU coming up on 2pm like announced? =P |
| 10:46.08 | Stanzilla | never ever |
| 10:46.19 | Stanzilla | 4pm if they are good |
| 10:46.49 | [SW]Dodge | http://www.wow-europe.com/realmstatus/index.html?locale=en_gb <- hmmm they _should_ be up ;P |
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| 10:47.25 | nevcairiel | the login server just vanished, hah |
| 10:47.48 | nevcairiel | i dont even get my authenticator box anymore |
| 10:47.49 | [SW]Dodge | i'm logged in adn waiting @ char lost ;D |
| 10:47.59 | [SW]Dodge | s/char/realm/ |
| 10:48.03 | [SW]Dodge | list* <.< |
| 10:48.36 | zenzio | I heard from a friend on the US realms that you should be careful about mounting up soon after logging in |
| 10:48.38 | zenzio | o_O |
| 10:48.50 | nevcairiel | what would happen? |
| 10:48.56 | zenzio | mounts temporarily lost |
| 10:49.08 | zenzio | and no, not just vanished to mount tab |
| 10:49.21 | nevcairiel | so i log in and let it sit there for a while to make it be good? :D |
| 10:49.45 | zenzio | no idea, he just said it was a "known issue", but wouldn't say more |
| 10:50.03 | nevcairiel | guess i'll use flying form |
| 10:50.36 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: /sign :) |
| 10:50.40 | Fisker- | It's a display issue |
| 10:50.55 | Fisker- | Servers were lagging so hard that they didn't update mount/pet panels |
| 10:51.17 | Fisker- | They're not lost though |
| 10:51.19 | Fisker- | Just doesn't show up |
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| 11:00.56 | Arrowmaster | mounts really were lost |
| 11:01.14 | Arrowmaster | some of us lost mounts when our servers crashed and rolled back |
| 11:01.23 | Arrowmaster | which is different from the display issue |
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| 11:02.43 | zenzio | did they fix that yet, or are they still looking into it? |
| 11:04.34 | Arrowmaster | well our server was restared a while ago, it might have been to fix it but i didnt log back on yet |
| 11:04.59 | Arrowmaster | going to bed |
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| 11:50.07 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 854 minutes |
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| 11:51.04 | Stanzilla | fail Shiibot |
| 11:51.04 | Fisker- | fail indeed |
| 11:51.04 | Mikk | Wouldn't it just be easier to entrust channelop with some non-US people? =P |
| 11:51.04 | alcaras | trust foreigners?! |
| 11:51.04 | alcaras | ;) :p |
| 11:51.05 | Mikk | Ok, my bad, cair is canadian |
| 11:51.05 | Mikk | So you're already screwed ;) |
| 11:51.05 | nevcairiel | yesterday we had real spammers |
| 11:51.05 | nevcairiel | and Shiibot failed |
| 11:51.05 | nevcairiel | today we have a split, and Shiibot fails |
| 11:51.05 | nevcairiel | ~epic fail Shirik|zZz |
| 11:51.06 | purl | Shirik|zZz, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Shirik|zZz, you are that epic failure. |
| 11:51.06 | Mikk | ~failrik |
| 11:51.06 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 11:51.07 | Fisker- | ~debug.failrik() |
| 11:51.07 | purl | error("FAIL, Shirik, FAIL!"); |
| 11:51.07 | Fisker- | ~fail |
| 11:51.08 | purl | Sorry, Fisker-, you have failed. Please insert $1.00 to try again. |
| 11:51.08 | Fisker- | stupid purl |
| 11:51.08 | Fisker- | probably busy spamming onjoins |
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| 11:52.20 | Industrial | laglol |
| 11:52.20 | Industrial | also, GIEF SERVERS UP |
| 11:52.45 | leethal | I'm glad I'm at work right now |
| 11:53.13 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 11:53.13 | Industrial | 5 minutes |
| 11:53.33 | Industrial | morning Kaelten |
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| 12:11.30 | Industrial | omg |
| 12:11.32 | Industrial | blizzard |
| 12:11.33 | Industrial | LATE |
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| 12:13.00 | A2` | its written 3pm |
| 12:13.00 | nevcairiel | Industrial: read announcements or gtfo |
| 12:13.23 | Industrial | wasnt last time i checked :< |
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| 12:22.55 | zenzio | ~alert |
| 12:22.56 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 12:23.15 | zenzio | how rude :-( |
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| 12:34.31 | zenzio | "all of beta (which included classic wow and tbc) was 2gb + updates, now we get 1.7GB update with just class changes and no new content whatsoever? can anyone shed some light?" o_O |
| 12:34.54 | cladhaire | well |
| 12:35.31 | cladhaire | dunno :P |
| 12:36.13 | zenzio | I should stop reading the forums |
| 12:37.53 | cladhaire | they could unpack the patch and check :P |
| 12:38.04 | cladhaire | I am hungry. |
| 12:38.22 | cladhaire | I need to eat |
| 12:39.03 | zenzio | rational thinking, I approve |
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| 12:43.01 | cbreak | there's tons of new content |
| 12:43.30 | cbreak | many geometry changes of Stormwind (harbour), EPL (DK Starting zone?), Dalaran |
| 12:43.49 | cbreak | a new profession with new items |
| 12:43.56 | zenzio | the guy who posted that on the forum clearly thought that Blizzard made us download 1.6 GB of null-data :-p |
| 12:43.59 | cbreak | a new class with new mechanics |
| 12:44.12 | cbreak | (and a new UI) |
| 12:44.42 | cladhaire | I suspect most of the artwork for the expansion is included (i.e. items, etc) |
| 12:44.52 | cbreak | tons of new northrend items |
| 12:44.53 | cladhaire | but we're also discussing a troll, so hehe |
| 12:45.00 | A2` | +a kind of portal in un'goro no ? |
| 12:45.47 | cbreak | portal? |
| 12:46.34 | A2` | i remember a screen shot of un'goro |
| 12:47.17 | foxlit | yes. |
| 12:47.33 | foxlit | I'm not sure if its accessible currently, but it should be there. |
| 12:47.34 | A2` | the enter of a dungeon ? |
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| 12:57.39 | |pez| | I wonder if I can connect my mouse to the onboard bluetooth, instead of having to use the dongle. |
| 12:58.03 | `-FISKER_Q | Why shouldn't you be able to? |
| 12:58.04 | zenzio | but it's so much more fun to use the dongle |
| 12:58.22 | `-FISKER_Q | you can use my dongle |
| 12:58.22 | |pez| | `-FISKER_Q, never tried before. :P |
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| 12:59.14 | `-FISKER_Q | I never tried stabbing people with a knife |
| 12:59.20 | `-FISKER_Q | I still think the knife will work for stabbing though |
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| 13:03.56 | cladhaire | OMG BLIZZ IS LATE TWICE |
| 13:04.23 | cladhaire | you know what this is |
| 13:04.26 | cladhaire | its a slap in the face! |
| 13:04.37 | |pez| | `-FISKER_Q: I can't seem to figure out how I can get it to work though. |
| 13:04.58 | |pez| | But I'm sure it'd be better to try with a fresh set of batteries, since I'm unsure of the batterystate on the mouse. |
| 13:05.55 | cladhaire | mmm yummy drugs |
| 13:07.38 | `-FISKER_Q | i'm dying here cladhaire |
| 13:08.09 | cbreak | weird. I applied the patch |
| 13:08.19 | `-FISKER_Q | zomg? |
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| 13:08.27 | cbreak | but when I log in, I don't get the usual server selection screen |
| 13:08.35 | cbreak | but one that only offers the language "Development" |
| 13:09.06 | `-FISKER_Q | old |
| 13:10.06 | cbreak | old? |
| 13:10.42 | Elkano | hmmm... what happens to chars that had been logged out in Naxx? |
| 13:10.52 | Elkano | poted home? |
| 13:10.56 | ZorbaTHut | apparently, they crash when they try to log on |
| 13:10.58 | cbreak | naxx reset |
| 13:10.59 | `-FISKER_Q | you're stuck |
| 13:11.03 | `-FISKER_Q | = owned |
| 13:11.07 | ZorbaTHut | and then they submit a petition through one of their alts ;) |
| 13:11.16 | ZorbaTHut | afterwards, we laugh at them. |
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| 13:15.23 | Josh_Borke | ZorbaTHut: why do you wait until afterwards? |
| 13:17.09 | ZorbaTHut | technically speaking, I never claimed we didn't laugh at them beforehand also |
| 13:17.31 | alestane | Sophistry. |
| 13:17.33 | ZorbaTHut | but I can only guarantee after-the-fact laughter, since in many cases we may simply not realize that that's why they haven't logged on. |
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| 13:26.36 | A2` | realms up ^^ |
| 13:27.06 | zenzio | cool, time to go home soon then! ;) |
| 13:30.00 | foxlit | Hm, so Warhead wasn't bad. |
| 13:30.25 | zenzio | who? |
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| 13:30.43 | foxlit | google! |
| 13:31.52 | zenzio | I have a feeling googling for "warhead" would bring more than a few random results |
| 13:32.18 | foxlit | That's what you'd think |
| 13:33.01 | foxlit | but no, the intended result dominates the first page |
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| 13:41.04 | cbreak | realms might be up, but they also seem overloaded |
| 13:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | Of course they are. *nod* |
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| 13:52.22 | foxlit | It's curious - even with the amount of flak wowmatrix gets, they're still able to pull addons from other sites. |
| 13:53.37 | ZorbaTHut | man, questhelper is really frustratingly bad at adjusting to changing quests :/ |
| 13:53.40 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone with enough clever computer knowledge can plagiarize. |
| 13:53.52 | foxlit | Yes, and no. |
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| 13:55.20 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, it's technically impossible to stop without seriously inconveniencing the "normal" users - at best, they could be slowed down. I suspect the major sites don't want to turn it into an arms race. |
| 13:55.40 | nevcairiel | they are going to legal measures now, anyway |
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| 13:56.44 | Lopeppeppy | Which should be more effective than wearing themselves out with computer programming stop gaps. |
| 13:56.46 | foxlit | ZorbaTHut: I'd imagine you could permutate download mechanics faster than they could release code for them :) |
| 13:57.04 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, possibly, possibly not. in the end, you still have to display a webpage with a "click here to download" link |
| 13:57.05 | nevcairiel | sure you could, but its alot work wasted |
| 13:57.24 | ZorbaTHut | all they have to do is run a little virtual firefox, click on the "click here to download" link, and watch where firefox tries to go |
| 13:57.42 | foxlit | which is probably a lot more than they're currently doing :) |
| 13:57.53 | ZorbaTHut | oh, almost certainly - right now it's probably just a little regex |
| 13:58.30 | ZorbaTHut | but it'd be a lot of work to spend on something that actually fails to solve the problem. |
| 13:59.22 | nevcairiel | its generally just silly to start a cat and mouse game |
| 13:59.27 | ZorbaTHut | personally I'm waiting for some business in China to make their own wowmatrix :) |
| 13:59.30 | nevcairiel | if you can just get a lawyer to get rid of them |
| 13:59.36 | ZorbaTHut | kind of surprised they haven't already, to be honest |
| 13:59.43 | foxlit | ZorbaTHut: China has their own download sites |
| 13:59.52 | foxlit | () |
| 13:59.55 | Gnarfoz | anyone got a link to the 2.0.0.15 mac CurseClient |
| 13:59.55 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, not for that - for the ad revenue. |
| 13:59.56 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 14:00.00 | foxlit | (which are surprisingly polite) |
| 14:00.04 | nevcairiel | China is usually somewhat behind on patches |
| 14:00.08 | ZorbaTHut | if wowmatrix is profitable, wowmatrix.cn would certainly be as well |
| 14:00.14 | nevcairiel | so they keep old versions around longer |
| 14:00.17 | ZorbaTHut | nevcairiel, no, you're missing my point |
| 14:00.27 | ZorbaTHut | it would be a company, based in China, that does precisely what Wowmatrix does, for the same American audience |
| 14:00.32 | nevcairiel | i'm ignoring your point, big difference |
| 14:00.38 | ZorbaTHut | it would just be impossible to take down with legal measures. :P |
| 14:01.05 | foxlit | It's also a huge translation market, apparently. |
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| 14:10.21 | p3lim | EU login servers crashed? |
| 14:10.43 | cbreak | not only the login server |
| 14:10.55 | p3lim | patch server too? |
| 14:11.16 | cbreak | my server just crashed |
| 14:11.19 | p3lim | lol |
| 14:12.00 | cbreak | every time I learn a mini pet, I can't do anything |
| 14:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | So stop learning them? |
| 14:12.12 | cbreak | why? |
| 14:12.21 | Lopeppeppy | So you can do things? |
| 14:12.36 | cbreak | not after I tried to learn it. |
| 14:12.41 | cbreak | well, movement and chat is possible |
| 14:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | Needs more caffeine. |
| 14:13.54 | foxlit | you must collect additional hamsters. |
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| 14:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | Or ferrets |
| 14:14.33 | cbreak | weird. No pet tab. |
| 14:19.57 | cladhaire | should i disable setting synchronization for right now, i.e. is that why everyone is getting the full loading bar and stuck there? |
| 14:21.44 | cbreak | I disabled my addons, so there should be no settings transfered |
| 14:21.49 | cladhaire | keybindings |
| 14:21.52 | cladhaire | etc. |
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| 14:22.07 | cladhaire | and stuck at a 100% loading bar with no addons loaded :P |
| 14:22.17 | nevcairiel | i logged in once |
| 14:22.21 | nevcairiel | then relogged for addons |
| 14:22.23 | nevcairiel | and no dice :P |
| 14:22.29 | Pneumatus | ditto |
| 14:22.43 | cladhaire | hehe okay, as long as we're having similar problems, I feel better |
| 14:22.49 | Pneumatus | back to hanging at 100% loaded now |
| 14:22.54 | ZorbaTHut | man, these crashes are annoying. I keep ending up teleported a significant distance back |
| 14:22.58 | nevcairiel | server probably just crapping out on all the people |
| 14:23.11 | Vangual | same prob, my bank with relatively few addons actually managed to finish loading after 5+mins |
| 14:24.25 | ShaneSveller | after being patient once or twice with the hang-at-100% deal, my toons on US were back to logging in as fast as usual |
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| 14:25.57 | Esine | * UPDATED - UnitHealthMax("unit") -- No longer masks value as 0-100 on enemy units <-- does this mean UnitHealthMax() now returns the real hit points of enemies instead of percentage? |
| 14:26.12 | Vangual | fatality! |
| 14:26.17 | Vangual | woo, i like that sound |
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| 14:26.32 | ckknight | yes, Esine |
| 14:26.34 | Vangual | 5th login went fast |
| 14:26.36 | Esine | wootles |
| 14:26.47 | Esine | bye bye libunitmobhealthv10123 |
| 14:27.07 | ckknight | yep. |
| 14:27.14 | ckknight | and I wrote the v4 of that |
| 14:27.22 | Esine | ckknight, it was often wrong. |
| 14:27.24 | Esine | :> |
| 14:27.32 | ckknight | it was a heuristic |
| 14:28.54 | foxlit | Awesome |
| 14:28.57 | foxlit | I'm still using v2 of that. |
| 14:29.09 | foxlit | well, was. |
| 14:30.07 | ckknight | yea, that was a lot worse version |
| 14:30.09 | ckknight | algorithmically |
| 14:30.58 | foxlit | Meh, didn't have much of a problem. Added the damage-since-last-health-update in 2.4, and it aligned beatifully. |
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| 14:40.42 | kneeki | I've ran into some issues using the WOW Addon Interface. It seems that both of my addons (which I have programmed the same way) are running into the same issue where the addonDB variable is being set to nil. If you check the code, you'll see the only time that it's set to nil is when the user clicks 'Cancel' or hits the Escape key. I've been stumped on this for nearly 4 days. Any ideas:... |
| 14:40.43 | kneeki | ...http://www.wowi.pastey.net/98341 ? |
| 14:41.33 | cladhaire | it should never be set to nil, if anything it should be set to an empty table |
| 14:41.48 | cladhaire | have you verified that the correct variable name appears in the TOC file |
| 14:42.02 | cladhaire | And that you can store information in that variable without any other code running? |
| 14:42.02 | kneeki | Well, the button.OrigionalVar is being set to nil |
| 14:42.05 | cladhaire | that's the first place to start |
| 14:42.14 | cladhaire | put do return end at the top of your code |
| 14:42.20 | cladhaire | load in game and explore it interactively |
| 14:42.21 | cladhaire | i.e. set it |
| 14:42.21 | cladhaire | reload |
| 14:42.24 | cladhaire | see if it sticks |
| 14:42.26 | cladhaire | that's step #1 :P |
| 14:42.42 | kneeki | Ok, sec |
| 14:43.12 | kneeki | Yep, it works fine |
| 14:43.57 | cladhaire | okay, whats the name of your addon's SV? |
| 14:43.59 | kneeki | But I'm not trying to set the addonDB variable to nil, that's the thing |
| 14:44.26 | kneeki | ClassButtonDB |
| 14:44.36 | cbreak | do you call it "OrigionalVar"? |
| 14:44.39 | kneeki | Err, ClassButtonsDB |
| 14:45.01 | cladhaire | its tough to tell what is happening out of context here =/ |
| 14:45.02 | kneeki | OrigionalVar is the temp variable I'm using to store the settings before the user opens the window |
| 14:45.10 | kneeki | so any changes they make can be canceled with restore() |
| 14:45.44 | kneeki | cladhaire: Need the whole function? |
| 14:45.55 | p3lim | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libsimpleoptions-1-0/tickets/ |
| 14:45.56 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, wowi borked for me |
| 14:45.58 | cladhaire | no, i dont have much time to look through it right now either way, sorry =/ |
| 14:46.06 | p3lim | ckknight: please update these two lines :) |
| 14:46.09 | kneeki | cladhaire: np =) |
| 14:46.11 | cladhaire | Neuro_Medivh: works for me |
| 14:46.18 | cbreak | _G["ClassButtonsAnchor1"] seems weird to me. Not that it should cause problems |
| 14:46.21 | Neuro_Medivh | works for me too, until I try and download |
| 14:46.32 | ckknight | p3lim: have you tested it? |
| 14:46.35 | p3lim | cladhaire: sometimes wowi returns a 500 error due to load |
| 14:46.41 | p3lim | ckknight: yes, the latest version |
| 14:46.44 | kneeki | cbreak: That's like getglobal("ClassButtonsAnchor1") |
| 14:46.46 | Neuro_Medivh | there we go |
| 14:46.48 | cbreak | yes |
| 14:46.49 | p3lim | get those two errors that ticket highlights |
| 14:46.49 | cbreak | I know |
| 14:46.52 | cbreak | but why do you do it? |
| 14:46.59 | ckknight | p3lim: I mean, when you change those things |
| 14:47.03 | cbreak | you can just use ClassButtonsAnchor1 directly... |
| 14:47.20 | p3lim | myself? |
| 14:47.25 | p3lim | they work then, yes |
| 14:47.27 | kneeki | cbreak: True. I have a habbit of always using _G[] when calling frames. =\ |
| 14:47.35 | kneeki | I dont know if that's a good or bad thing tbh |
| 14:47.48 | cladhaire | Neuro_Medivh: thanks for the report |
| 14:48.02 | p3lim | ckknight: ive tested it and it works with those two changes |
| 14:48.36 | p3lim | ~seen tekkub |
| 14:48.40 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5h 14m 7s ago, saying: 'healbot tobecontinued'. |
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| 14:48.57 | p3lim | early in the US still? |
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| 14:49.08 | Neuro_Medivh | 8am pst |
| 14:49.11 | kneeki | p3lim: 7:50am |
| 14:49.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Depends on what part of the US |
| 14:49.20 | p3lim | central :) |
| 14:49.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Almost 10:00 there |
| 14:49.44 | Lopeppeppy | That's still early! |
| 14:49.48 | p3lim | :p |
| 14:49.56 | ckknight | done, p3lim |
| 14:50.12 | p3lim | ckknight: thanks :) |
| 14:50.24 | ckknight | I'm glad all the wowace projects have a ticket tracker now |
| 14:51.33 | p3lim | ckknight: where did you upload it? |
| 14:52.28 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/libsimpleoptions-1-0/files/22-r39/ |
| 14:53.10 | p3lim | ah there we go, thanks |
| 14:53.15 | p3lim | still not used to the new wowace |
| 14:54.02 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
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| 14:54.14 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 14:54.14 | Gnarfoz | is the WoWI UI manager not able to pick up my favorites? |
| 14:54.20 | Gnarfoz | (why else would it need my login data) |
| 14:54.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That's all is does is pick up on your favorites |
| 14:55.35 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 14:55.36 | Gnarfoz | ahah |
| 14:55.38 | Gnarfoz | wrong pw |
| 14:55.41 | Gnarfoz | but it didn't complain |
| 14:55.48 | Gnarfoz | because it seems it can see my favs without my pw |
| 14:55.55 | Gnarfoz | why require my pw, then? ;D |
| 14:56.11 | nevcairiel | keyloggerz |
| 14:56.43 | Gnarfoz | say it aint so |
| 14:57.16 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, don't get nasty rumors started first thing on a Wednesday, dear. |
| 14:57.33 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:58.08 | nevcairiel | Are US servers playable again anyway? |
| 14:58.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes, if you sacrifice enough goats. |
| 14:58.23 | nevcairiel | EU is still craping on login |
| 14:59.40 | p3lim | Anyone know if LibDataBroker is avalible on some SVN? |
| 14:59.53 | nevcairiel | its on tekkubs Git |
| 15:01.00 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I can log in on EU |
| 15:01.43 | p3lim | nevcairiel: doesnt help me much, need a SVN :p |
| 15:01.50 | p3lim | to add it as an external |
| 15:02.15 | nevcairiel | copy the file |
| 15:02.17 | Seerah | p3lim: you can just download it manually |
| 15:02.18 | Elkano | hard-embed it |
| 15:02.29 | p3lim | Elkano: im listening |
| 15:02.36 | Seerah | same as what I said :P |
| 15:02.40 | p3lim | bleh |
| 15:02.41 | Elkano | well, as they said ^^ |
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| 15:02.44 | Seerah | download it and put it in your mod :) |
| 15:02.53 | p3lim | I cant use the folder, its 'controlled' by the subversion system :/ |
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| 15:03.50 | `-FISKER_Q | break it upt |
| 15:04.04 | Seerah | morning peppy! |
| 15:04.21 | Lopeppeppy | I had edamame for breakfast, watch out, I'm a veggiesaurus today. |
| 15:04.35 | p3lim | eew |
| 15:04.36 | Seerah | I have a chocolate Carnation Instant Breakfast |
| 15:04.36 | Wikwocket | Ah, gotta love the smell of AddOn explosions in the morning |
| 15:04.37 | Duman | rawr |
| 15:04.57 | p3lim | i had two sandwiches and a milkshake |
| 15:05.05 | p3lim | but its dinner time now |
| 15:05.07 | Seerah | for breakfast? |
| 15:05.08 | Seerah | ah |
| 15:05.16 | p3lim | yeah for breakfast |
| 15:05.23 | p3lim | ate it in my company van |
| 15:09.39 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: down by the river? also: http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master/LibDataBroker-1.1.lua?raw=true |
| 15:10.09 | p3lim | can I use svn to get that raw file? |
| 15:10.23 | mikma | lol |
| 15:10.41 | p3lim | on the highway actually |
| 15:11.25 | ShaneSveller | p3lim: curl or wget might server you better |
| 15:11.42 | ShaneSveller | any form of http download you like, really |
| 15:11.52 | p3lim | i run windows |
| 15:11.54 | Seerah | p3lim: just click download from the ldb page and select zip |
| 15:12.10 | Seerah | then include the ldb.lua file in your addon |
| 15:12.12 | p3lim | Seerah: yeah i know, just wanted to check if it could get automated |
| 15:12.24 | Seerah | it won't change much |
| 15:12.26 | p3lim | like SVN externals |
| 15:12.38 | Seerah | and it's not meant to be included as an external |
| 15:12.44 | Seerah | it's *supposed* to be hard embedded |
| 15:13.27 | p3lim | i mix those two, whats the one that means 'included'? |
| 15:13.41 | Seerah | embedded |
| 15:13.55 | p3lim | yep, i embed LDB |
| 15:14.06 | p3lim | but its called SVN Externals for some reason |
| 15:14.21 | Seerah | the way it is designed, you're just supposed to stick it in your mod folder and put it in your toc |
| 15:14.28 | p3lim | yeah :p |
| 15:14.29 | Seerah | it's not supposed to be listed as an external |
| 15:15.51 | Seerah | the way you want to set it up is not how it was designed for. And it won't change much at all if all you want is an automated way to grab it |
| 15:17.20 | Wikwocket | Does anyone happen to know if the latest Grid release works well in 3.0.2? |
| 15:18.14 | Lopeppeppy | I have heard mixed results, Wikwocket. As with all addons in the first week after a patch, please test and confirm your own satisfaction, and remember that other addons can interfere and make you cranky. |
| 15:18.40 | Wikwocket | Of course. I had some problems with the HealComm library last night, hoping the newer version works better. |
| 15:19.05 | Lopeppeppy | Trial and error at this point, always a good time to provide detailed feedback to authors. |
| 15:23.39 | Ose | 99% |
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| 15:23.42 | Ose | :P |
| 15:24.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning Jelly-dear. |
| 15:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 15:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | WoWI is throwing server errors |
| 15:25.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not *too* surprised |
| 15:25.57 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 15:25.58 | purl | ACTION jumps into Peppy's lap and huggles and *hugs* Peppy |
| 15:26.01 | Wikwocket | overall it's not too bad |
| 15:26.11 | Wikwocket | It may be worse after noon though :( |
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| 15:32.44 | Seerah | ScytheBlade1: just refresh it |
| 15:33.54 | cbreak | does anyone know a site where zones and subzones are listed? I am trying to explore everything, but that's harder than it sounds |
| 15:34.36 | Seerah | um.... not too sure.... Are you using cargExplorer2, though? |
| 15:36.24 | cbreak | I am currently not using addons |
| 15:36.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Seerah: yeah, been trying |
| 15:37.11 | Seerah | I finally got through. it's because we're getting too many hits/requests |
| 15:37.17 | Seerah | we're still up though |
| 15:37.53 | Seerah | cbreak: ah... it is dependent on the mod knowing every subzone, of course, but it will give you a percentage on your map of how much you have explored in that zone |
| 15:38.13 | cbreak | I know which subzones I am missing, the achievement tells me that much |
| 15:38.17 | cbreak | but not where to find it :/ |
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| 15:38.34 | foxlit | c'mon, wowi, quit being lazy and replying with HTTP 500 |
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| 15:39.27 | kamdis | OMG my addons, they no work! QQ QQ QQ |
| 15:39.35 | kamdis | just kidding. g'morning! :) |
| 15:40.25 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 15:41.21 | verxion | there we go |
| 15:42.46 | verxion | anyone know what is up with cartographer3? |
| 15:43.02 | Wikwocket | What do you mean by 'up'? |
| 15:43.13 | verxion | well |
| 15:43.28 | verxion | notes, waypoints, and instance POIs all show up in red |
| 15:43.46 | verxion | I have ace3 installed and cartographer 3.0 v0.10 is installed |
| 15:44.18 | |Jelly| | I think the curse client is actually going to install Prat this time! |
| 15:44.22 | Seerah | are those the notes, waypoints, etc modules that came with cartographer3? |
| 15:44.38 | Seerah | or are they left over from cart2? |
| 15:44.49 | |Jelly| | or ... maybe not |
| 15:44.57 | Gnarfoz | QQ WoWUI UI manager not worky |
| 15:45.25 | verxion | Seerah: yeah, the ones that came with cart3 |
| 15:45.26 | Seerah | what's the wowui ui manager? |
| 15:45.35 | kamdis | Prat is keeping my guild list from being sortable :( |
| 15:45.49 | Seerah | oh, is that what was doing that?.... never did disable to find out |
| 15:45.56 | kamdis | Aye. |
| 15:46.06 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: oh, one U too much. WoWI UI manager ;) |
| 15:46.17 | Seerah | wowi updater |
| 15:46.24 | Seerah | gotcha |
| 15:47.03 | Seerah | our site's taking some damage from all of the traffic over the past couple of days |
| 15:47.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah, figures. ;) |
| 15:47.11 | Seerah | we're still trying to keep it afloat, though |
| 15:47.15 | verxion | lol, pcj is quite the touchy fool |
| 15:47.16 | Lopeppeppy | Patience is requested during this time of trouble. |
| 15:47.25 | verxion | can't handle people that like wowmatrix, lol |
| 15:47.42 | verxion | so he just bans them |
| 15:47.48 | ShaneSveller | f those guys. f them right in the face. |
| 15:47.50 | verxion | that is a very mature reaction |
| 15:47.59 | ShaneSveller | wowmatrix is bad. end of story. |
| 15:48.04 | Lopeppeppy | verxion, don't start rumors first think on Wednesday, please. People are still stressed and tired around the Lounge here. :) |
| 15:48.06 | foxlit | Whining about it in another channel isn't a solution. Stop it. |
| 15:48.06 | Seerah | who's pjc? |
| 15:48.08 | cogwheel | ~hug the channel |
| 15:48.09 | purl | ACTION hugs the channel tightly until the channel turns slightly blue |
| 15:48.15 | Gnarfoz | who cares about mature, IRC is not a right, it's a privilege. if you get on their nerves intentionally, well, you see what happens. :P |
| 15:48.33 | verxion | Lopeppeppy: rumors? I just got banned by pcj on #wowwiki |
| 15:48.34 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: #wowwiki op who just kb'd him ;) |
| 15:48.38 | verxion | so it ain't no rumor |
| 15:48.39 | Seerah | ah |
| 15:48.45 | verxion | he is just a little kid I think |
| 15:48.46 | verxion | or something |
| 15:48.58 | Seerah | we are blocking wowmatrix from wowi |
| 15:49.11 | Seerah | it's not just his opinion on wowmatrix ;) |
| 15:49.13 | kamdis | <3 Seerah |
| 15:49.15 | foxlit | go you :) |
| 15:49.15 | verxion | Seerah: heh |
| 15:49.23 | Seerah | I didn't do it :) |
| 15:49.27 | Seerah | Dolby is the man |
| 15:49.30 | foxlit | collective you :P |
| 15:49.34 | kamdis | well then <3 Dolby |
| 15:49.39 | verxion | Seerah: honestly, ANYONE can block wowmatrix |
| 15:49.40 | kamdis | but the <3 Seerah still stands :P |
| 15:49.45 | verxion | it ain't no big deal to do so |
| 15:49.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there a function by chance that is called when GC happens? Something I can hook and see when/if it is firing? |
| 15:49.50 | verxion | and it is EVERYONE's right to do so |
| 15:49.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm getting some weird lag that I suspect to be GC |
| 15:49.56 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: it wasn't even about wowmatrix, it was about him being too thick to grasp that there's people who use something other than windows where wowmatrix doesn't "just work" ;p |
| 15:50.15 | verxion | Gnarfoz: too thick? lol |
| 15:50.23 | verxion | Gnarfoz: no, I have a macbook air right here |
| 15:50.26 | Gnarfoz | well, Adys answere you twice that he can't use it. |
| 15:50.34 | verxion | Gnarfoz: and if you look at my irc client, it runs on my linux server |
| 15:50.41 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't care less. |
| 15:50.46 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 15:50.48 | Seerah | eh, we don't need to bring that discussion in this channel |
| 15:50.54 | verxion | Gnarfoz: but they are both inferior for gaming, and I have absolutely -*NO*- expectation of them running a game |
| 15:50.57 | verxion | or addons |
| 15:51.00 | verxion | or current utilities |
| 15:51.02 | Adys | when you're not trolling another chan you're trolling here? |
| 15:51.09 | verxion | Seerah: ok, good point |
| 15:51.12 | Seerah | *ahem* (10:50:46 AM) Seerah: eh, we don't need to bring that discussion in this channel |
| 15:51.15 | Seerah | :) |
| 15:51.16 | Adys | kb from #wowwiki wasnt enough eh |
| 15:51.17 | Gnarfoz | Adys: meh, just relax ;) |
| 15:51.17 | verxion | yeah, noted. |
| 15:51.31 | verxion | anyway |
| 15:51.43 | verxion | kamdis: lol |
| 15:51.45 | foxlit | Seerah: THREAT TO BAN OPPOSING SIDES? :) |
| 15:51.53 | Gnarfoz | PLANKTON, etc. |
| 15:52.11 | verxion | so anyone running cartographer3? |
| 15:52.18 | kamdis | cogwheel: I'd rather you spread a tasty breakfast around the channel. |
| 15:52.19 | ShaneSveller | verxion: lots and lots of people play wow just dandy on OSX and linux both |
| 15:52.47 | verxion | ShaneSveller: and if ANY mainstream app works on linux or mac, then that is just a damned nice lucky break |
| 15:52.47 | verxion | and more power to them |
| 15:52.56 | verxion | I used to fight that fight |
| 15:53.05 | verxion | I don't any more and I have a ton more free time now. :)) |
| 15:53.08 | ShaneSveller | verxion: and as far as inferior goes, opengl + linux gave me upwards of 140fps in most places on a rig that got ~110 under windows |
| 15:53.27 | ScytheBlade1 | verxion: disagree. I'm running at higher FPS under linux than I am under windows. 7600GT. |
| 15:53.29 | Adys | what a logic |
| 15:53.37 | |Jelly| | By the way Cog, I'm going to agree with Kamdis. |
| 15:53.46 | Adys | "I used to fight that too, now I have lots of free time since I fight the other way around" |
| 15:53.46 | Lopeppeppy | Valium is the breakfast of champions. |
| 15:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | Unless you would prefer Thorazine? |
| 15:53.53 | verxion | Adys: lol |
| 15:53.57 | Seerah | chocolate |
| 15:54.00 | verxion | nah, I just go the path of least resistance |
| 15:54.02 | verxion | call me lazy |
| 15:54.06 | |Jelly| | I'm down for eggs and toast. |
| 15:54.06 | verxion | and you wouldn't be far wrong |
| 15:54.06 | Seerah | I prefer chocolate :) |
| 15:54.06 | verxion | :) |
| 15:54.30 | Lopeppeppy | Chocolate laced thorazine, right. Valuim in the eggs, check. |
| 15:54.37 | |Jelly| | o.O twofer! |
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| 15:54.56 | TecnoBrat | Adys, stop feeding the troll! |
| 15:55.13 | Adys | TecnoBrat: ret paladins should be nerfed |
| 15:55.29 | verxion | Adys: I have been hearing good things about ret pallies in terms of their ability now |
| 15:55.36 | TecnoBrat | Probably! |
| 15:55.37 | Adys | rly |
| 15:55.45 | Wikwocket | Repentance going to a minute duration is pretty awesome |
| 15:55.45 | Adys | that said |
| 15:55.51 | Adys | anyone got quartz's last version? |
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| 15:56.10 | verxion | Adys: you know my answer to that one. :) |
| 15:56.12 | Wikwocket | Adys: if you find one, let me know |
| 15:56.25 | cladhaire | are you FUCKING kidding me. |
| 15:56.28 | Adys | Wikwocket: Theres one linked on WI on the survival guide but its a dead link |
| 15:56.31 | erikd | anyone know of a mod updater client that'll work with both curse and wowi? jwowupdater says it's disabled both of those because they require logins =/ |
| 15:56.39 | Shirik | hihi |
| 15:56.43 | |Jelly| | cladhaire: I would never fucking kid you. |
| 15:56.53 | cbreak | erikd: Firefox works nicely |
| 15:56.59 | cbreak | it's not that automatic though |
| 15:56.59 | ScytheBlade1 | erikd: yes, two different updaters. Curse and WoWI. The WoWI updater is currenly more or less dead. |
| 15:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | erikd: or in short you may be screwed. Maybe not thoguh, hard to say! |
| 15:57.35 | erikd | cbreak: i hate having to spend an hour or two to update my mods =/ |
| 15:57.42 | Adys | Also, anyone using pitbull figured out how to change the text layout on unit frames? |
| 15:57.45 | Seerah | favorites list ftw |
| 15:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | erikd: you likely will anyway |
| 15:57.53 | cbreak | with the current download speeds, spending hours seems inevitable |
| 15:57.54 | kamdis | It doesn't take that long, except when the hosting sites are slammed. |
| 15:58.04 | cbreak | not entirely unexpected on patch days though |
| 15:58.24 | Seerah | Adys: Frame -> Texts -> (the text area) -> position |
| 15:58.30 | Lopeppeppy | cladhaire, what's wrong? |
| 15:58.30 | Adys | ty :) |
| 15:58.52 | zenzelezz | anyone know whether you need to have 10 tabards simultaneously for the "Ten Tabards" achievement, or whether you just have to buy/collect ten different ones? |
| 15:59.09 | cbreak | you have to have them at the same time |
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| 15:59.23 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-o Cairenn|afk] by Shirik |
| 15:59.25 | Wikwocket | You can supposedly reclaim lost tabards from a tabard vendor though |
| 15:59.28 | Shirik | can't ban me now Cairenn|afk! |
| 15:59.32 | zenzelezz | Wikwocket: yeah, did that |
| 15:59.40 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Shirik!n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-28-173.mem.bellsouth.net] by Seerah (go sleep!) |
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| 15:59.44 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 15:59.45 | zenzelezz | but you can delete them after obtaining the achievement? |
| 15:59.46 | Wikwocket | Oh good, I wanted to then ask, where the heck is the tabard vendor hehe |
| 15:59.59 | zenzelezz | Wikwocket: the people who sell guild tabards |
| 16:00.12 | Wikwocket | Thanks! |
| 16:00.34 | Wikwocket | You can't lose an achievement, so deleting them should not cause any problems |
| 16:01.36 | Seerah | *ahem* I would like to point out that we have hit yet *another* new record for traffic on wowi... "Most users ever online was 36,891, Today at 11:00 AM." |
| 16:01.51 | Seerah | and that's not everyone, as many people are getting server errors |
| 16:02.15 | Shirik | !quit |
| 16:02.24 | kneeki | wow! |
| 16:02.32 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Cairenn|afk] by Shirik |
| 16:02.34 | Firedancer | yups. i keep getting the server errors. holy crap that's a lot of people o.O |
| 16:02.35 | |Jelly| | !awesome |
| 16:02.41 | Shirik | I'd also like to point out |
| 16:02.44 | Wikwocket | I just reloaded a page, hope you get 36,892 :) |
| 16:02.46 | Lopeppeppy | afk for lunch |
| 16:02.46 | Shirik | Before yesterday, our record was below 14k |
| 16:02.52 | Shirik | We've more than doubled that |
| 16:03.10 | zenzelezz | <Seerah> *ahem* I would like to point out that we have hit yet *another* new record for traffic on wowi... <--- they all came looking for the picture of the WoWI mistresses |
| 16:03.11 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shirik |
| 16:03.14 | kneeki | Anyone happen to know the default position of GameTooltip? |
| 16:03.16 | Cairenn|afk | the numbers are actually significantly higher than that |
| 16:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I imagine you can point to the wowace --> curse client transition |
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| 16:03.20 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shiibot] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Due to the stigma the wow community has about curse |
| 16:03.31 | Seerah | Most users ever online was 38,806, Today at 11:03 AM. |
| 16:03.34 | Shirik | fricking netsplits :/ |
| 16:03.43 | Seerah | 2k in 3 minutes |
| 16:03.53 | kamdis | wow |
| 16:04.04 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.05 | Seerah | some may just be refreshing and getting past server errors |
| 16:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh joy |
| 16:04.08 | Cairenn | and since Shirik blew my cover, I may as well just go ahead and admit that I'm awake |
| 16:04.14 | Shirik | oh sorry Cairenn |
| 16:04.19 | Cairenn | hehhee, it's okay luv |
| 16:04.22 | Seerah | yeah, she was hiding :P |
| 16:04.33 | Cairenn | I've just been hiding so I could actually get some work done ;) |
| 16:04.34 | Shirik | go back to sleep then |
| 16:04.47 | cladhaire | i am so fucking angry I'm shaking |
| 16:04.48 | cladhaire | >< |
| 16:04.50 | Firedancer | I used curse back in the day. I much prefer WoWI's layout and favorite system though :) |
| 16:04.52 | Shirik | ?? |
| 16:04.54 | Cairenn | cladhaire: uh oh |
| 16:04.56 | ShaneSveller | cladhaire: ? |
| 16:05.00 | cladhaire | remember the message I sent to IT yesterday |
| 16:05.07 | cladhaire | I posted it here so people could look it over and give me perspective on it |
| 16:05.12 | ScytheBlade1 | No? |
| 16:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I'm curious |
| 16:05.28 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/98229 |
| 16:05.30 | cladhaire | was the email I sent |
| 16:05.40 | cladhaire | very nice, trying to come to some accommodation |
| 16:05.43 | cladhaire | this is the accommodation |
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| 16:06.32 | Shirik | Cide: ping |
| 16:06.36 | Cide | pong |
| 16:06.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice formal letter |
| 16:06.51 | cladhaire | This is the fucking cunt's response |
| 16:06.52 | cladhaire | http://pastey.net/98352 |
| 16:06.56 | Shirik | I think we need to adjust one of my detection algorithms |
| 16:07.01 | cladhaire | she has a personal problem with me.. with no just cause |
| 16:07.12 | Cide | yep |
| 16:07.15 | cladhaire | keep in mind the last IT officer for this club had root access on the damn server |
| 16:07.28 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: I've got a pretty big knife if you want it |
| 16:07.39 | cladhaire | I just don't understand.. honestlty |
| 16:07.47 | cladhaire | I can't do a damn thing now |
| 16:08.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Disabling your SSH is like |
| 16:08.15 | kamdis | err |
| 16:08.15 | verxion | anyone here use cartographer3? |
| 16:08.16 | cladhaire | you _CANNOT_ run a wordpress installation like I need to, without having shell access to the damn web directory |
| 16:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Well the only thing that comes to mind is castration :P |
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| 16:08.38 | ShaneSveller | ScytheBlade1: that's about right, yeah |
| 16:08.59 | Tornhoof | your request was too much it talk,, probably a pretty please would have done the job ;) |
| 16:09.00 | syberghost | After she removes your ssh, she's going to put up a Youtube video of her teabagging your corpse. |
| 16:09.00 | Shirik | (11:59:39)  -› kicked from #WoWUIDev by @Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-28-173.mem.bellsouth.net) (go sleep!) rejoining in 3s, (Cancel with Ctrl+F5) |
| 16:09.02 | ShaneSveller | cladhaire: I empathize. what are you doing that you need shell access, just of curiosity? |
| 16:09.03 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:09.12 | cladhaire | installing plugins, for one |
| 16:09.19 | ZealotOnAStick | so, anyone have any suggestions of mods that seem to be culprits for just "randomly but frequently disconnecting you all the damn time with no error messages" ? |
| 16:09.38 | Shirik | ZealotOnAStick: SendAddOnMessage = function() end |
| 16:09.40 | ScytheBlade1 | You should just find a box with an older kernel, hijack it, and say "look you can't maintain it, so let me do what I please" |
| 16:09.41 | Shirik | fix |
| 16:09.43 | Shirik | er, |
| 16:09.49 | Shirik | do /script SendAddonMessage = function() end |
| 16:10.33 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: I can't. |
| 16:10.36 | cladhaire | I have plenty of boxes |
| 16:10.45 | cladhaire | oh i get what you're saying |
| 16:10.47 | cladhaire | and >< |
| 16:10.49 | cladhaire | but the problem is |
| 16:10.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :P |
| 16:10.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Actually |
| 16:10.54 | cladhaire | I can't even host the website anywhere else. |
| 16:10.56 | cladhaire | I'm not allowed to |
| 16:11.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ... or cut me off right there |
| 16:11.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I was going to say host it yourself |
| 16:11.19 | cladhaire | any official website has to be hosted by college |
| 16:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Drop some javascript in a post with a redirect |
| 16:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | But... maybe not |
| 16:11.35 | mikma | ummmmm, riding crop didn't change :( |
| 16:11.35 | Shirik | cladhaire: If it makes you feel any better, I'm going through the same crap right now |
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| 16:11.44 | cladhaire | I sincerely doubt that ;-) |
| 16:11.49 | cladhaire | I'm sure you're having your own problems tho |
| 16:11.50 | Shirik | Worst part is that my information is confidential, and IT refuses to sign the NDA |
| 16:12.01 | Cairenn | lovely |
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| 16:12.40 | ZealotOnAStick | thanks guys. What's the cause that that fixes? |
| 16:12.49 | Shirik | so I just started taking matters into my own hands |
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| 16:13.13 | Shirik | example: They refused to give us a static IP, so I just kick off any computer on the network now that takes our IP and then grab it |
| 16:13.21 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:13.25 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:13.28 | Seerah | lol |
| 16:13.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay for ARP? |
| 16:13.55 | Wikwocket | ZealotOnAStick: that fix would address any problem where an AddOn is sending too many addon messages, resulting in a disconnect |
| 16:13.58 | Shirik | ARP is so full of vulnerabilities >< |
| 16:14.01 | Tornhoof | yay for badly configured switches ;) |
| 16:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | "You are not who you think you are.." "Okay!" |
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| 16:14.34 | Seerah | ZealotOnAStick: it effectively deletes the SendAddOnMessage function |
| 16:14.50 | Shirik | yeah ZealotOnAStick, that isn't really a good idea :) |
| 16:14.55 | Shirik | It will probably break things in the process |
| 16:14.57 | Seerah | elaborating on what Wikwocket said |
| 16:15.08 | mikma | awww c'mon, what's going on with the riding crop :O |
| 16:15.10 | Shirik | but it will fix the problem |
| 16:15.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Right. So, any likely culprits for being really fricking spammy on SendAddOnMessage? |
| 16:15.24 | mikma | "doesn't work above level 70" and it's still a trinket |
| 16:15.44 | ZealotOnAStick | . . . as I get randomly disc'd again. |
| 16:16.00 | Shirik | ok so it's not an addon sending too much stuff |
| 16:16.01 | Seerah | hm... there's an addon that tells you what addons are sending messages... |
| 16:16.03 | Seerah | hmm |
| 16:16.06 | Tornhoof | every sync addon should not work anymore |
| 16:16.17 | Shirik | are you sure it's an addon ZealotOnAStick? |
| 16:16.22 | Tornhoof | like raid announcers or simialr |
| 16:16.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Not 100%, but I haven't felt like disabling eveyrthing and just running around for a bit yet. |
| 16:16.56 | Wikwocket | mikma: The riding crop and similar items work fine now, but not after 70. They want to find something that works without requiring trinket swapping. |
| 16:17.17 | cladhaire | 264718 |
| 16:17.27 | cladhaire | zomg log my keys |
| 16:17.29 | Wikwocket | IIRC they haven't implemented any new sort of riding crop though |
| 16:17.31 | cladhaire | that's my authenticator value! |
| 16:17.34 | mikma | Wikwocket: sometime in beta they were enchants |
| 16:17.44 | Wikwocket | Yes, that was reverted though |
| 16:17.48 | mikma | damn I |
| 16:17.51 | mikma | :I |
| 16:18.09 | Wikwocket | Some of us did not like the prospect of getting 1 crop for each mount |
| 16:18.44 | Shirik | fyi, being able to pass blizzard mount across all characters == so much win |
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| 16:19.56 | mikma | anyone knows how to disable the sticky bars in Dominos? :( |
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| 16:20.15 | Shirik | that reminds me |
| 16:20.16 | krka | hi hiflyer! |
| 16:20.19 | Shirik | I need to yell at Tuller |
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| 16:20.25 | Shirik | He dropped my favorite feature of bongos 3 |
| 16:20.28 | TecnoBrat | cladhaire, don't you love it when colleges become corporations? |
| 16:20.36 | ZealotOnAStick | and everything's working fine, I can practically dance in my bags (wasn't using a bag mod before, btw) and nothing discs me. |
| 16:20.37 | cladhaire | they all are |
| 16:20.38 | Shirik | I'm not in the mood for this right now |
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| 16:20.43 | morkii | what feature? |
| 16:20.43 | cladhaire | they're not all assholes tho |
| 16:20.44 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+r] by Shirik |
| 16:20.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Shirik: which one? I miss having a couple of 2 and 3 button floating bars. |
| 16:20.52 | TecnoBrat | true ... |
| 16:21.03 | Shirik | I miss being able to create my bars |
| 16:21.08 | Shirik | just the whole click and drag thing |
| 16:21.24 | Shirik | I always get pissed on my druid because bars overlap each other due to the form paging thing |
| 16:21.29 | Shirik | So like bar 10 is actually used by bar `1 |
| 16:21.31 | Shirik | etc. |
| 16:21.32 | `-FISKER_Q | hows blizzcon Shirik ? |
| 16:21.40 | Shirik | And now I'm back to having to figure out where everything goes |
| 16:21.43 | Shirik | etc. |
| 16:21.44 | morkii | imo macaroons is ftw |
| 16:22.28 | Shirik | quote CAPAB IDENTIFYMSG |
| 16:22.29 | Shirik | er |
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| 16:23.05 | morkii | he went back to linked bars so all your stances can page |
| 16:23.34 | Shirik | can someone leave and rejoin channel, would you mind? |
| 16:23.35 | Ose | nevcairiel: so I kinda accidentally moved the bartender menu thing halway outside the screen, and now I can't move it. hlep? |
| 16:23.41 | Seerah | mikma: to not have sticky bars, hold a modifier (forget which one) while dragging |
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| 16:23.53 | Shirik | Thanks Lopeppeppy |
| 16:23.53 | mikma | Seerah: thanks :) |
| 16:23.56 | kamdis | alt I believe |
| 16:24.12 | ShaneSveller | mikma: alt or ctrl, yeah |
| 16:24.17 | nevcairiel | Ose: reloadui should bringt it back to the cneter, i think |
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| 16:24.43 | Ose | wtf? "no such command" |
| 16:24.45 | Cairenn | if someone has 2 minutes and is willing, would you mind finding my post about the survival guide on the blizz forums and give it a poke? |
| 16:24.46 | Lopeppeppy | Did it work as intended, Shirik? |
| 16:24.51 | Ose | I used to have it |
| 16:25.03 | Shirik | no |
| 16:25.05 | Shirik | but that's freenode's problem not mine |
| 16:25.06 | nevcairiel | Ose: /console reloadui always works, dunno what happend :) |
| 16:25.09 | Shirik | nothing I can do about it, just would have been nice |
| 16:25.33 | Ose | reminds me, it was missing in beta too |
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| 16:26.11 | Seerah | looking for it Cairenn |
| 16:26.36 | Lopeppeppy | Bumped. |
| 16:27.19 | Firedancer | heh lop beat me to it :P had to log in >.> |
| 16:27.54 | Ose | gj with the snapping thing nevcairiel |
| 16:28.02 | mikma | oh snap? |
| 16:28.20 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/snap.jpg |
| 16:28.30 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: thank you sweetie |
| 16:31.06 | Shirik | wtf was that |
| 16:31.12 | Shirik | I just did something in Vim I've never seen before :/ |
| 16:31.20 | Shirik | it said -- VISUAL BLOCK -- at the bottom |
| 16:32.00 | ScytheBlade1 | You hit v |
| 16:32.03 | `-FISKER_Q | our server is so dead Shirik :( |
| 16:32.06 | Shirik | yeah what is that |
| 16:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Visual block aka multiline select :P |
| 16:32.28 | ScytheBlade1 | add ten lines, switch to command mode |
| 16:32.36 | Wikwocket | It also toggles unitframe nameplates |
| 16:32.39 | ScytheBlade1 | hit v, scroll up to the top of said 10 lines |
| 16:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | hit d |
| 16:32.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Poof, deleted 10 lines |
| 16:32.57 | Shirik | this is such a bad line |
| 16:32.59 | Shirik | chanlist[chan] = (chanlist[chan] or 0) + (mask:match(MULTIPLY_MASK) and 2 or 1) |
| 16:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wow |
| 16:33.24 | Shirik | sorry, fixed: chanlist[chan] = (chanlist[chan] or 0) + SCORE_PER_JOIN * (mask:match(MULTIPLY_MASK) and 2 or 1) |
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| 16:33.32 | Wikwocket | 'and 2 or 1' - sounds like you have indecisive code! |
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| 16:39.08 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 16:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | Double-hmm with chocolate sauce. |
| 16:39.19 | nevcairiel | now WoWI is 500'ing |
| 16:39.38 | Shirik | it's bouncing up and down nevcairiel |
| 16:39.40 | Shirik | try again |
| 16:40.05 | Shirik | and sorry |
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| 16:43.45 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 Thanks for showing me that |
| 16:43.49 | Shirik | makes it so much easier to cut and paste, lol |
| 16:44.54 | Shirik | !reload |
| 16:44.58 | Shirik | win! |
| 16:45.12 | Lopeppeppy | Ya? |
| 16:45.37 | Shirik | /usr/bin/lua: ai.lua:336: ')' expected near ',' |
| 16:45.41 | Shirik | :( |
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| 16:46.08 | Shirik | sigh |
| 16:46.10 | Shirik | failure: local rapidJoin(code, mask, data) |
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| 16:47.38 | Shirik | !reload |
| 16:47.38 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
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| 16:48.25 | Shirik | grr @ buffered output of nohup |
| 16:48.30 | Shirik | makes it difficult to debug :( |
| 16:48.35 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
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| 16:49.10 | Shirik | that seems to be working well |
| 16:49.15 | Shirik | it may be too sensitive, I'm not sure |
| 16:49.16 | Shirik | we'll find out |
| 16:49.20 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-r] by Shirik |
| 16:49.37 | Shirik | I added some cool new ideas I think :) |
| 16:49.56 | Shirik | There's now a penalty for looking like a spammer :) |
| 16:50.03 | Shirik | like Lopeppeppy |
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| 16:50.26 | SoullesS73 | hi all... |
| 16:50.27 | Lopeppeppy | I don't *look like* a Spammer, I am a TROLL! |
| 16:50.29 | Lopeppeppy | Jeez. |
| 16:50.33 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, SoullesS73 |
| 16:50.57 | SoullesS73 | does anyone know of a comparable replacement for Equipcompare? That was the greatest mod! |
| 16:51.14 | Lopeppeppy | refresh me what Equipcompare did? |
| 16:51.16 | SoullesS73 | I'm so sorry to see cosmos go : / |
| 16:51.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cosmos had such a long wonderful run, it makes us all sad to see it go. |
| 16:51.41 | SoullesS73 | when you mouse over an item it would show a popup next to it with the item you currently have, letting you compare the 2 |
| 16:51.47 | SoullesS73 | yeah indeed |
| 16:51.50 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. RatingBuster will help you tons then. |
| 16:52.08 | Wikwocket | EquipCompare was updated. So was EQCompare |
| 16:52.23 | SoullesS73 | I used ratingbuster in conjunction with EC.. does RB have a feature that mimics the compare in it's options? |
| 16:52.33 | Wikwocket | Also, part of its functionality is in the base UI now, just hold shift |
| 16:52.36 | SoullesS73 | I mean an actual popup window that shows you the item you have? |
| 16:52.37 | Shirik | ok I have to get to my lab, I'll brb |
| 16:52.41 | SoullesS73 | ohhh ok great |
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| 16:53.12 | SoullesS73 | you'd think they would have an option to "always compare on mouse over" |
| 16:53.20 | SoullesS73 | instead of having to hold shift.. |
| 16:53.28 | SoullesS73 | maybe they do and I missed it. |
| 16:53.28 | Lopeppeppy | SoullesS73, I'm not 100% sure. But it will carry you a short while until the addon sites are back up and happy, and you can troll through them looking for a better option. |
| 16:53.37 | Funkeh` | It's raining the 500's today! :p |
| 16:53.38 | Lopeppeppy | Not like we can troll through on your behalf right now, sadly. |
| 16:54.04 | SoullesS73 | oh no I was asking for that at all, just wondering if anyone knew right off the top of their heads ;) |
| 16:54.07 | SoullesS73 | no worries :) |
| 16:54.13 | SoullesS73 | just sad to see cosmos go |
| 16:54.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... me too. *huggles for Cosmos* |
| 16:54.54 | SoullesS73 | hehe |
| 16:55.08 | SoullesS73 | ok I'll go see what I can find out.. thanks again and farewell Cosmos! |
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| 16:56.03 | Kaelten | ~seen tekkub |
| 16:56.07 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7h 21m 34s ago, saying: 'healbot tobecontinued'. |
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| 16:56.16 | Kaelten | damnit tek, where are you! |
| 16:56.20 | Lopeppeppy | Tekkub am asleepting. |
| 16:57.53 | MoonWolf | Cairenn, can i ask you something / |
| 16:57.54 | MoonWolf | ?* |
| 16:58.14 | Lopeppeppy | You can try, MoonWolf! |
| 16:58.28 | MoonWolf | i only wanted to know the server load , ish. |
| 16:58.37 | Wikwocket | "A lot" is my guess |
| 16:58.44 | Ose | over 9000 |
| 16:58.48 | kamdis | Is curse not ever hosting compilations or are they redoing the compilation portal, and authors will have to re-upload them once it's done? |
| 16:58.48 | Wikwocket | indeed |
| 16:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | I think Seerah quoted +40K, but that's my faulty memory. |
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| 16:59.53 | Cairenn | those are the numbers we're *showing* .... multiply it by magnitudes ... |
| 17:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. |
| 17:00.04 | MoonWolf | right |
| 17:01.47 | morkii | mmm thats cute i can go past 375 in bejeweling now |
| 17:04.13 | foxlit | so, single point of failure systems are bad :) |
| 17:04.31 | MoonWolf | that why we invented the internet. |
| 17:04.36 | `-FISKER_Q | nah foxlit |
| 17:04.42 | `-FISKER_Q | They're great |
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| 17:10.48 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/ is down! |
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| 17:11.18 | Ose | o rly? |
| 17:11.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: and you could have contributed to it if you had uploaded Routes! |
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| 17:11.35 | Malgayne | Use this link: http://s.wowinterface.com/the_list.html |
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| 17:11.49 | Xinhuan | can't upload if i haven't actually updated it |
| 17:11.50 | Xinhuan | yet |
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| 17:12.11 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 17:12.11 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 26 minutes |
| 17:12.12 | p3lim | huge load on the site atm? getting 500 errors constantly |
| 17:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 17:13.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep refreshing |
| 17:13.15 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 17:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: one of the few times you're happy that your site is dying a terrible death! |
| 17:13.38 | morkii | keep refreshing would add to the problem wouldn't it >< |
| 17:13.45 | p3lim | not sure its good for SVN updates tho' |
| 17:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | morkii: yeah, but it's all you can do |
| 17:13.47 | Syzgyn | haste: ping |
| 17:13.50 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: no, I'm really not |
| 17:14.00 | Gnarfoz | uhm blizz .... WTF |
| 17:14.01 | Gnarfoz | Deleted file "F:\WoW\Logs\WoWCombatLog-2008-03-06.7z". |
| 17:14.03 | Cairenn | ScytheBlade1: I wish it wasn't dying |
| 17:14.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: Oh. Well. I was *trying* to be optimistic :) |
| 17:14.11 | Gnarfoz | the 3.0 installer deleted ALL my combatlogs |
| 17:14.20 | Gnarfoz | from like, 2007 |
| 17:14.23 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. |
| 17:14.24 | p3lim | Its not dying, its just suffering massive pain |
| 17:14.27 | Cairenn | and D.olby is doing an amazing job of keeping us running |
| 17:14.27 | Shirik | Looks like my new algorithm for Shiibot works flawlessly |
| 17:14.39 | Lopeppeppy | Grats, Shirik! |
| 17:15.26 | morkii | grats to us all |
| 17:15.37 | krka | what does it do? |
| 17:16.14 | NeoTron | so does Shiibot add the channel locking before spamming starts now? |
| 17:16.23 | Gnarfoz | seriously |
| 17:16.26 | Gnarfoz | that's fucked up >_> |
| 17:16.39 | Shirik | no, the spammer stopped posting messages when Shiibot first was introduced |
| 17:16.43 | Gnarfoz | 3 raids per week, since mid-2007 :X |
| 17:16.45 | Shirik | in an attempt to get around Shiibot's blocks |
| 17:16.48 | Gnarfoz | all gone :X |
| 17:16.49 | Shirik | now he just joins and leaves |
| 17:16.52 | Shirik | over and over again |
| 17:17.02 | Shirik | So it detects this and blocks it |
| 17:18.22 | p3lim | only 1 addon away from freedom! |
| 17:18.59 | Gnarfoz | with everything back to embedded, I can finally see the number of addons I use easily... |
| 17:19.08 | Gnarfoz | except for stupid modules being unpacked :X |
| 17:19.47 | Fisker- | i wanted the forums foxlit |
| 17:20.04 | p3lim | Shirik: isnt it supposed to say 'Remaining time' instead of elapsed? |
| 17:20.41 | Adys | nevcairiel: you're the author of WIM arent you? |
| 17:20.52 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:20.59 | Adys | erf who was that |
| 17:21.16 | zenzelezz | damnit, all the fun new stuff has made me have to completely rethink my action bars :-| |
| 17:24.11 | TecnoBrat | p3lim, if you are looking just for addons, use http://s.wowinterface.com/the_list.html |
| 17:24.22 | TecnoBrat | static page, loads instantly :) |
| 17:26.07 | p3lim | im uploading, not downloading |
| 17:26.24 | TecnoBrat | p3lim, :) |
| 17:26.49 | NeoTron | Shirik: aha, that explains it. I filter joins/parts |
| 17:27.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 17:29.54 | haste | Syzgyn: pong |
| 17:29.54 | zenzelezz | I'm getting a distinct feeling you can't fall into water to do the "Going Down?" achievement |
| 17:30.28 | Lopeppeppy | Ya think? |
| 17:30.33 | Syzgyn | For some reason I'm not getting tooltips when mouseing over raid frames |
| 17:30.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Nom- (n=nom@standen.id.au) |
| 17:30.45 | zenzelezz | peppy: well I had hoped you could do it that way |
| 17:30.55 | Fisker- | haste |
| 17:30.56 | Syzgyn | in the latest oUF that is |
| 17:30.57 | Fisker- | i need you |
| 17:31.08 | haste | Syzgyn: that's a 110% layout issue, and it's because you use the blizzard function |
| 17:31.15 | Syzgyn | Ok |
| 17:31.30 | KarlKFI | best place to get going down: jumping out of dalaran sewers |
| 17:31.38 | Syzgyn | I havent made my own layout, just modified one |
| 17:31.46 | KarlKFI | are the SW docks open now? |
| 17:31.51 | Syzgyn | yes |
| 17:31.54 | mikma | huh |
| 17:31.58 | kamdis | wow |
| 17:32.03 | mikma | need to find a way to survive from 50 feet or so :D |
| 17:32.15 | Nom- | get a pally to bubble you |
| 17:32.18 | KarlKFI | from there you can jump off the top ledge and down to the floor gets you a going down. have to do it mounted to get the horazontal clearance |
| 17:32.24 | kamdis | i guess some people don't like hearing that what they want is not going to happen http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11228543908&postId=112273231241&sid=1#2 |
| 17:32.31 | Syzgyn | haste: so what is the proper function to use? |
| 17:32.51 | haste | Syzgyn: no idea, take a look at how blizzard does it |
| 17:32.55 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 17:33.06 | zenzelezz | KarlKFI: thanks for the tip |
| 17:33.15 | Lopeppeppy | Jumping off of where, exactly? |
| 17:33.23 | KarlKFI | near the lion |
| 17:33.28 | KarlKFI | left side |
| 17:33.35 | KarlKFI | you'll need to survive of course |
| 17:33.48 | Syzgyn | I dont think theres anything in the layout thats messing with tooltips at all |
| 17:33.52 | KarlKFI | does it work if you use a chute cloak? |
| 17:34.59 | KarlKFI | i just bubble it |
| 17:34.59 | alestane | I should try the shortcut to BRD. |
| 17:35.00 | KarlKFI | or jump off the aldor rise works i think |
| 17:35.00 | Syzgyn | Just fly up about 4 seconds |
| 17:35.00 | KarlKFI | that too |
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| 17:35.57 | zenzelezz | Syzgyn: only four seconds? |
| 17:36.11 | Syzgyn | Between 4 and 5 or so |
| 17:36.11 | haste | Syzgyn: oUF itself doens't know anything about tooltips |
| 17:36.30 | haste | Syzgyn: you most likely set a OnEnter/OnLeave however ,which calls a blizzard function which handles it |
| 17:36.34 | foxlit | I'm lazy, so don't bother looking for an answer: what's the reaction color mechanic? |
| 17:36.57 | haste | foxlit: UnitSelectioCcolor |
| 17:36.59 | Syzgyn | Ugh, there it is |
| 17:37.00 | haste | function |
| 17:37.03 | Syzgyn | stupid layout |
| 17:37.08 | haste | without the typo :p |
| 17:37.45 | foxlit | oh, awesome |
| 17:37.59 | Syzgyn | haste: one last question: Did blizz change the power colors? they seem different |
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| 17:43.31 | Tem | lua> math.random(1,2) |
| 17:43.32 | lua_bot | Tem: 1 |
| 17:44.23 | Shirik | lua> math.random(1,1) |
| 17:44.23 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1 |
| 17:44.49 | Syzgyn | Random loot is random! |
| 17:45.27 | Lopeppeppy | Bloody windows |
| 17:45.34 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all almost got my work passwords! :) |
| 17:46.47 | zenzelezz | hawtgnome... not so hard to guess |
| 17:46.53 | Seerah | It's 12345! |
| 17:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. I need at least 8 characters. So 12345678 |
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| 17:48.37 | Seerah | aha! I tricked you! Now I know all your sekretz! |
| 17:49.51 | Lopeppeppy | Damn it! Only another girl could be that sneaky! |
| 17:50.04 | Funkeh` | girls aren't sneaky |
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| 17:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, we're uber-clever and sneaky at the same time, you're right. |
| 17:51.39 | Funkeh` | They are the next one up after sneaky |
| 17:51.48 | Funkeh` | but being a guy, my brain can't comprehend what that is |
| 17:51.55 | Lopeppeppy | Wonderful. |
| 17:52.56 | Funkeh` | it's insidious isn't it |
| 17:53.01 | Funkeh` | not sure of the spelling |
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| 17:55.41 | Funkeh` | They should make a movie, called 500. Base it on patch day. |
| 17:56.50 | Semhirage | =/ |
| 17:57.01 | Semhirage | wowi ui manager is t3h failsauce =( |
| 17:57.24 | zenzelezz | Syzgyn: thanks for the tip, got it right eventually |
| 17:57.54 | Lyn | is wowinterface a little fragile atm? |
| 17:58.01 | Cairenn | aye |
| 17:58.03 | Shirik | Semhirage: I've been saying that forever, and I'm the author of it. The new one will work correctly. |
| 17:58.05 | Lyn | ah okay |
| 17:58.13 | Cairenn | patience and persistence, you'll get through to what you need eventually |
| 17:58.17 | Lyn | thought my internet sucks.. cause i even hang on the "getting character list" screen |
| 17:58.19 | Cairenn | sorry guys, doing what we can |
| 17:58.23 | Shirik | The current one hasn't even been looked at since february |
| 17:58.32 | Lyn | Cairenn, no, it's okay, was just asking :) |
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| 17:58.37 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:58.43 | Semhirage | shirik it was actually working great until before yesterday |
| 17:59.00 | Shirik | Oh well if that's the case, it may just be due to the fact that wowinterface.com is having a lot of trouble with all the demand atm |
| 17:59.01 | Semhirage | now its a crapshoot as to whether or not i just get error - unspecified I/O error |
| 17:59.04 | Shirik | s/lot/little/ |
| 17:59.05 | Cairenn | well, we're also so completely slammed right now, Semhirage, that it can't be helping any |
| 17:59.15 | Shirik | Yes that error is likely just timeouts, Semhirage |
| 17:59.36 | Shirik | much like an error you would get from your browser |
| 17:59.42 | Semhirage | =/ |
| 17:59.52 | Shirik | unfortunately not much I can do about that |
| 18:00.04 | Shirik | We currently have one lonely server handling over 40k users at once |
| 18:00.08 | Semhirage | ouch |
| 18:00.09 | Shirik | and that's just the ones it's actually counting |
| 18:00.40 | Shirik | Currently Active Users: 38138 (1107 members and 37031 guests) |
| 18:01.23 | Funkeh` | Shirik, only? :p |
| 18:01.48 | Lyn | :o |
| 18:02.03 | Shirik | ~lart Funkeh` |
| 18:02.03 | purl | explains, ever so gently, that if Funkeh` doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 18:02.14 | Funkeh` | uh.. |
| 18:02.16 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 18:03.11 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. That's a Peppy ~lart, kill them with kindness. |
| 18:03.39 | Funkeh` | Bet a woman added that. |
| 18:03.47 | alestane | "Giving people who don't deserve it help they won't understand." |
| 18:04.45 | Lyn | hm |
| 18:05.09 | Lyn | never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down *singing around* :O |
| 18:05.15 | Shirik | ~kill Lyn |
| 18:05.16 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudopositrino gun at Lyn |
| 18:05.25 | Lyn | ~fart shirik |
| 18:05.26 | purl | ACTION farts in shirik's general direction |
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| 18:06.02 | Lyn | funny, i am inside the loading screen since 10 minutes |
| 18:06.02 | Lyn | ! |
| 18:06.40 | mikma | anyone remembers any npc-muting addons that work with 3.0? |
| 18:06.45 | alestane | I recommend turning off settings synch for a week or so. |
| 18:06.52 | Firedancer | Lyn: that was happening to me a lot last night on the US realms |
| 18:07.02 | mikma | something has been changed between 2.4 -> 3.0 and mine fails with error :( |
| 18:07.12 | Lyn | :< |
| 18:07.16 | Dewin | Anybody know offhand if there is a non-3.0 version of Cartographer that still works with the update? I don't like the new version much. |
| 18:07.21 | Lyn | alestane, settings synch? |
| 18:07.26 | Codex| | mikma- quietnpc updated? |
| 18:07.45 | mikma | Codex|: i don't know, where's that from? |
| 18:08.57 | alestane | Open up your config.wtf file and add the line SET synchronizeSettings "0" |
| 18:09.41 | alestane | This will stop your client from swapping server-side macros and settings and use the local ones on your computer, often making loading significantly faster. The synch setting can be restored once not everyone is trying to do it at once. |
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| 18:10.21 | Dewin | handy. |
| 18:10.24 | kd3 | dewin; cart2 works fine |
| 18:10.48 | Seerah | Dewin: regular version of Cart is updated. linked on survival guide page |
| 18:10.48 | NeoTron | alestane: the server side settings slow down loading significantly? ouch! |
| 18:11.00 | Dewin | Seerah: Oooh, nice |
| 18:11.01 | Codex| | one of my mods is messing with my chat frames- i cant get it to catch what any channel or /say or /party is saying |
| 18:11.12 | alestane | I suspect not so much by themsleves, but when everyone is trying to synch at the same time... |
| 18:11.24 | Fisker- | blargh im ded kd3 |
| 18:11.36 | Shirik | p3lim|afk: No, it's the amount of time since last attack (or since startup) |
| 18:11.40 | Dewin | I wonder if I have mounts yet. |
| 18:12.17 | mikma | Codex|: seems like it ain't updated |
| 18:13.12 | alestane | NeoTron: What it is, is, load can't complete until settings are synched, so you're waiting on the server to get to you, and right now it's trying to process everyone who's logging in for the first time. Once traffic slows down, I suspect you won't really notice it. |
| 18:13.43 | Dewin | Cdoex|: Update DeadlyBossMods. |
| 18:14.08 | Dewin | If that doesn't work, update anything that uses ace |
| 18:14.14 | Codex| | dewin: i disabled dbm completely and im still not able to capture any chat |
| 18:14.19 | Codex| | trying |
| 18:14.21 | zenzelezz | bah, I doubt I will be able to ever do "Blade's Edge Bomberman" without an epic flyer |
| 18:14.29 | Codex| | i dont know if im allowed to vocalize it, but the curse client < wua |
| 18:14.41 | Dewin | I went on an addon disabling spree in PTR trying to get my chat back |
| 18:15.02 | Codex| | lol |
| 18:15.05 | Codex| | did u find out which it was |
| 18:15.10 | Dewin | Multiple addons :) |
| 18:15.19 | Codex| | if i PM u a list of all 30 i have |
| 18:15.21 | Codex| | can ya help me out |
| 18:15.23 | Codex| | save some time :) |
| 18:15.29 | Dewin | Drove me nuts, I'd finally disable one and get my chat back, so I'd enable other addons and boom it'd be gone again |
| 18:15.43 | NeoTron | alestane: so it's an issue moer in the transition than ongoing |
| 18:15.45 | Codex| | rofl |
| 18:15.56 | Codex| | yea, its hella annoying. i just recruiting my buddy to play, and we have to talk over an IMer |
| 18:15.58 | alestane | I suspect so. I didn't notice it on beta. |
| 18:16.00 | Dewin | I don't have a comprehensive list, I was playing whackamole at that poit. |
| 18:16.07 | Josh_Borke | zenzelezz: of course you can. the question is whether you can do it without being knocked off your mount :-D |
| 18:16.11 | Dewin | FWIW, you can still see speech bubbles |
| 18:16.31 | Dewin | I need to finish Progression. Heh. |
| 18:16.42 | NeoTron | alestane: but is the load comparable? Seems like especially post-long-downtime login load would be higher (and people being more persistent) |
| 18:16.53 | kamdis | tuller: <3 |
| 18:17.22 | zenzelezz | Josh_Borke: well, perhaps eventually. I lacked about six this time when the time ran out |
| 18:17.39 | Josh_Borke | or is bomberman a new quest? |
| 18:18.11 | alestane | NeoTron: Don't know how thorough the statistics I can give you are. But when I turned that setting off, I stopped getting stuck at full loading bar. |
| 18:18.34 | zenzelezz | it's the achievement, you have two minutes and fifteen seconds after accepting the Ogri'la bombing daily to finish it |
| 18:18.38 | Josh_Borke | This achievement is impossible to complete without an epic flying mount. |
| 18:19.06 | NeoTron | I didn't seem to have any major issues on my server, at least later on, so might be so |
| 18:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | I believe it. |
| 18:19.10 | Codex| | does curseclient update libs? |
| 18:19.34 | Codex| | dewin: did you have the problem where you chat frame background were white on login? |
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| 18:25.34 | Codex| | was Quartz abandoned?!!? |
| 18:26.06 | Shirik | quartz still works for me |
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| 18:29.13 | Codex| | does curseclient update libs? libtourist and librock are popping errors into ugsack.. or would it be the addons tha tuse them |
| 18:29.23 | Lopeppeppy | It has some slight changes, but I downloaded it last night no problem. |
| 18:30.51 | Codex| | dewin: the mod that was breaking my chat was LootSpy |
| 18:31.05 | steezo | can anyone even log in to curseclient right now? |
| 18:31.36 | Codex| | i am in ity |
| 18:31.37 | Codex| | it* |
| 18:31.52 | kd3 | still trying to "find an update to the client"... |
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| 18:32.47 | Neuro_Medivh | is it wowmatrix that's hammering them, or just the standard "hey, it's patch day!" shenannigans |
| 18:32.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:32.59 | Shirik | probably |
| 18:33.07 | Cairenn | both |
| 18:33.26 | metaljunk | can someone help me out with how to use Tekticles? clearfont2 doesnt work anymore and theres no instructions with Tekticles on how to actually activate it |
| 18:33.36 | metaljunk | ive tried every command i can think of |
| 18:33.58 | Neuro_Medivh | well, you have to /tickle tekticles |
| 18:34.13 | Codex| | now that morgantis buffbars is down, whats everyone usign ads a replacement |
| 18:34.16 | Josh_Borke | metaljunk: were there any in game options? |
| 18:34.24 | Josh_Borke | metaljunk: in teh Addon section of Interface options? |
| 18:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | Codex, I'm going to be using Bison when I put in any addons at all. |
| 18:35.08 | metaljunk | Josh_Borke: no nothing |
| 18:35.50 | Josh_Borke | metaljunk: doesn't look like there are any options to it |
| 18:35.58 | Josh_Borke | " I only ever used one set of fonts from CF2 (the Calibri set), so I ripped CF2 down to it’s bear ass and stripped off all the extra crap. This addon is what’s left." |
| 18:36.15 | Josh_Borke | if he only hase one set of fonts then there is no reason to have options :-) |
| 18:36.26 | kneeki | No options at all |
| 18:36.27 | Firedancer | there are no options for tekticles. it just works. but unless tekkub recently updated it, it probably won't work. They changed some of the font names and such around |
| 18:36.31 | kneeki | You ahve to edit the .lua |
| 18:36.50 | metaljunk | I just want something to make the font sizes bigger |
| 18:36.52 | Josh_Borke | Firedancer: he updated recently |
| 18:37.01 | metaljunk | if theres no options how can I adjust the size? |
| 18:37.03 | Tekkub | it worked fine before, and yes I've updated for the new base fonts |
| 18:37.09 | Tekkub | that'll release this weekend |
| 18:37.28 | Firedancer | kk. I didn't see it on wowi, but I got tired of fighting the 500s. I grabbed the last update from his git tho. |
| 18:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | Tekkub rules. That is all. |
| 18:38.09 | Codex| | Lopeppeppy: bison, im gonna go heck that out |
| 18:38.11 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: false |
| 18:38.32 | metaljunk | is there any others addons that can increase font size since clearfont2 isnt working? |
| 18:38.53 | kneeki | metaljunk: Edit the .lua file, and change the size there. That's what I did |
| 18:39.17 | Lopeppeppy | You're right, JoshBorke, there is always more. |
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| 18:40.03 | metaljunk | kneeki: where do I edit it? its a lot of random numbers an junk that dont really make any sense to me |
| 18:40.17 | kneeki | It's fairly self explanatory |
| 18:40.37 | metaljunk | maybe for you |
| 18:40.41 | Neuro_Medivh | tekticles works fine |
| 18:41.17 | kneeki | I understand the intimidation, but give yourself a moment and look at the lines. |
| 18:41.33 | kneeki | SetFont(CombatTextFont, NORMAL, 26) |
| 18:41.43 | kneeki | What could possibly be a number referring to a size? |
| 18:41.49 | kneeki | *in the above* |
| 18:41.56 | metaljunk | just make the numbers bigger? like change the 14's to 18's and the 17's to 20's like that? |
| 18:41.58 | Codex| | Lopeppeppy: you didnt mean buffalo did you? |
| 18:42.03 | kneeki | metaljunk: Exactly. =) |
| 18:42.12 | metaljunk | ok |
| 18:42.14 | metaljunk | thanks |
| 18:42.20 | Josh_Borke | metaljunk: it doesn't hurt to try |
| 18:44.41 | Neuro_Medivh | metal, if you install tekticles, you can change that stuff in-game |
| 18:45.20 | metaljunk | change it game where? |
| 18:45.26 | Neuro_Medivh | if you right-click the chat tab |
| 18:45.32 | Neuro_Medivh | and then select 'Font Size' |
| 18:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. somehow.. I'm 1 quest short in BEM. >< |
| 18:45.46 | metaljunk | will that change all fonts or only the chat window fonts? |
| 18:45.56 | Lopeppeppy | Codex, I didn't. Because Bison is Buffalo continued. :) |
| 18:46.04 | Neuro_Medivh | only that font size |
| 18:46.23 | metaljunk | well i need all the fonts changed, not just the chat ones |
| 18:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: buffalo works pretty well, you know. :P |
| 18:46.32 | Neuro_Medivh | um |
| 18:46.45 | Neuro_Medivh | that might have some strange side-effects =) |
| 18:46.47 | Shirik | heading home for a bit |
| 18:46.54 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, keep them in line |
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| 18:47.03 | Neuro_Medivh | as a rule, an addon can't change font SIZE globally |
| 18:47.31 | Neuro_Medivh | well, I guess it could, it just shouldn't |
| 18:47.55 | Cidan | lol |
| 18:47.58 | Cidan | poor wowi |
| 18:48.02 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:48.28 | Cidan | it's being hammerd to hell |
| 18:48.36 | Shirik | just refresh a few times if you're having trouble. It's handling the demand. Barely, but it's doing ok |
| 18:48.39 | Shirik | we just hit a new record |
| 18:48.48 | Shirik | View Who's Online |
| 18:48.48 | Shirik | Most users ever online was 40,644, Today at 02:44 PM. |
| 18:49.23 | Shirik | and now I shall go home |
| 18:49.41 | Cidan | hommee |
| 18:49.44 | Cidan | homee on the rannnggee |
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| 18:51.22 | Pytlask | Anybody have a good PvP healing spec (priest) to suggest for 3.0.2? |
| 18:51.46 | Pytlask | I'm currently using dispel magic glyph and renew glyph, but I'm thinking about changing to PW:S glyph and going disc shield |
| 18:51.53 | morkii | healing? pvp? |
| 18:52.02 | morkii | you live long enough? they live long enough? |
| 18:52.04 | Firedancer | no one heals in pvp :p |
| 18:52.31 | Pytlask | 460 resil helps a lot :P I can actually usually kill someone just by keeping myself healed while a SW:P is on them |
| 18:53.18 | morkii | I find paladins 2 shot everyone I'm trying to heal |
| 18:53.23 | Cidan | Tekkub: Have you updated Squeenix? |
| 18:53.25 | NeoTron | yep seems like it did |
| 18:54.08 | Tekkub | I updated all my shit long ago :P |
| 18:54.15 | Cidan | Tekkub: <3 |
| 18:54.37 | mikma | anyone knows a good gearchanger/lister addon? |
| 18:54.53 | Malgayne | Outfitter? |
| 18:55.12 | Malgayne | http://fs.wowinterface.com/download.php?id=10297 |
| 18:55.18 | morkii | does outfitter trump closetgnome? |
| 18:55.39 | mikma | would be nice if it were lightweight :) |
| 18:55.49 | Wikwocket | ItemRack is great for gear changes, and is updated for 3.0 |
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| 18:56.47 | Cidan | I like outfitter more, my self. |
| 18:56.50 | zenzelezz | ... so I was all "hah, Ten Tabards complete!"... and then it shows me "Twenty Five Tabards" QQ |
| 18:58.26 | morkii | yea I like closetgnome too but it isn't updated still works but there are errors at least for me |
| 19:00.14 | Wikwocket | Are there even 25 tabards before WotLK? hmmm |
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| 19:00.27 | Lunessa | station. |
| 19:00.34 | kamdis | Hi Lunessa. |
| 19:00.39 | Cidan | Does Elkano's Buff Bars still use Ace? |
| 19:00.44 | Lunessa | How is everyone today? |
| 19:01.16 | Cidan | FINE |
| 19:01.17 | Cidan | AND |
| 19:01.18 | Cidan | DANDY |
| 19:01.35 | Neuro_Medivh | Cidan, yes it does |
| 19:01.44 | Lunessa | I've been fine, and I've been dandy. But never both at the same time. |
| 19:01.55 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm fine and randy |
| 19:02.01 | Neuro_Medivh | *wink wink* |
| 19:02.14 | morkii | creepy |
| 19:02.36 | Cidan | Shame |
| 19:02.58 | Neuro_Medivh | I went to the beach, it was brine and sandy |
| 19:03.12 | Lunessa | Cidan: George Carlin was someone I could respect. He made me laugh a lot. |
| 19:03.57 | Codex| | if i only have 1/3 imp scorch but the glyph of imp scorch, is that still a 33% chance to apply 3 scorches? |
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| 19:04.32 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
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| 19:06.16 | Shirik | and Cidan |
| 19:06.20 | Cide | hi |
| 19:07.35 | cogwheel | Shirik: impostor |
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| 19:07.43 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:07.49 | Daede | is ck around? |
| 19:08.01 | Cidan | Lunessa: Uhm. I agree? |
| 19:08.03 | Cidan | Shirik: D= |
| 19:08.17 | Lunessa | Fine. |
| 19:08.25 | Josh_Borke | hm, is RDX still around? |
| 19:08.37 | Shirik | the official RDX? No |
| 19:08.47 | Cidan | OpenRDX is around still |
| 19:08.53 | Cidan | and so is mine |
| 19:09.07 | Josh_Borke | yea, i meant the one you were working on |
| 19:09.12 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:09.15 | Shirik | then yes |
| 19:09.16 | Cidan | Yeah, Just updated it to 3.0 |
| 19:09.24 | Daede | is there any projected time on a working cartographer? |
| 19:09.36 | Cidan | Daede: www.wowace.com |
| 19:09.40 | Josh_Borke | Daede: did you try cartographer 3? |
| 19:09.55 | Daede | no, actually i didn't.. it said "experimental".. should i? |
| 19:10.14 | Pytlask | Anybody know of any 3.0.2-ready talent calculators that are working? |
| 19:10.19 | Atriace | I'm having issues uploading to wowi. I keep getting "500 internal server error". Anyone have suggestions? |
| 19:10.29 | Cairenn | patience and persistence |
| 19:10.31 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:10.33 | Cidan | Pytlask: Sure, www.worldofwarcraft.com, =D |
| 19:10.44 | Codex| | why is prat making my trade channel white :( |
| 19:10.55 | Josh_Borke | Daede: i believe cartographer 3 is the only 'supported' version |
| 19:11.00 | Cidan | Codex|: Someone else I know had the same problem |
| 19:11.01 | Shirik | Codex|: It made all of my channels white until I updated it |
| 19:11.17 | Atriace | Cairenn: I had my mod upload page bookmarked, and I'm using that to update. Should I be using a different link? |
| 19:11.21 | Cidan | Josh_Borke: Nah, ckknight uploaded a new version of the 2.x series, works with 3.0 |
| 19:11.29 | Cairenn | that's fine |
| 19:11.48 | Cairenn | we are completely slammed, just keep trying is all I can say |
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| 19:12.11 | Josh_Borke | so, can we place bets on when all sites return to 'normal' |
| 19:12.12 | Josh_Borke | ? |
| 19:12.18 | Shirik | I give it a week at least |
| 19:12.23 | Cidan | Naw |
| 19:12.23 | Josh_Borke | i'm guessing monday afternoon (EST) |
| 19:12.24 | Cairenn | next week at the earliest |
| 19:12.28 | Cairenn | per 2.0 |
| 19:12.38 | Shirik | because despite the fact that everyone is trying to update, you'll also have authors flooding new updates over the next week or so |
| 19:12.44 | Cidan | Whew, and this is just 3.0, I wonder what WotLK will be like |
| 19:12.46 | Shirik | as they touch up last bits |
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| 19:13.00 | Cairenn | pretty much the same |
| 19:13.04 | Josh_Borke | is wotlk that different in UI? |
| 19:13.06 | Cairenn | as BC was to 2.0 |
| 19:13.13 | Cairenn | no |
| 19:13.18 | Cairenn | but USERS will be stupid |
| 19:13.19 | Tem | sigh |
| 19:13.20 | zenzelezz | so apparently the horde aren't too enthusiastic about having me fishing in Orgrimmar |
| 19:13.29 | Tem | I use reincarnation every time I port to shatt |
| 19:13.30 | Shirik | are you alliance? |
| 19:13.34 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 19:13.36 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: they mostly just want the pvp achievements. ;) |
| 19:13.40 | Shirik | why are you fishing in shat... |
| 19:13.41 | Anaral | Can anyone tell me why I get 2 to 6 notifications of a mod updating from WoWI(2) and WoWUI(6 copies)? |
| 19:13.46 | Pytlask | Anybody have an opinion of this spec as a pvp priest? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents2.html?tal=503032013032510203132503105120500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 19:13.49 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: there's a special one? |
| 19:13.52 | Pytlask | kind of a PW:S gimmick spec |
| 19:13.53 | Shirik | Anaral? |
| 19:13.53 | Tem | so when I die for real, I can't self rez |
| 19:13.54 | Tem | QQ |
| 19:14.12 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: there's ones for doing various things to people, but since you're making yourself such an -eays- target, why not? :P |
| 19:14.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: huh? |
| 19:14.45 | zenzelezz | aha. I was just wondering if there was a special one for enemies in your towns or something |
| 19:14.55 | Pytlask | there is |
| 19:14.57 | Anaral | Yes, Shirik? |
| 19:15.04 | Shirik | what do you mean by that? |
| 19:15.10 | Tem | NHTS, I die on the aldor rise elevator every time |
| 19:15.17 | Tem | so I reincarnat |
| 19:15.18 | Tem | e |
| 19:15.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ~fail Tem |
| 19:15.26 | purl | Tem, you Fail! |
| 19:15.26 | Tem | but then I can't use it the next time I die |
| 19:15.35 | Tem | So um |
| 19:15.49 | Shirik | stop falling off? |
| 19:15.54 | Tem | Does anyone else think it's weird that Varian Wrynn just poofed back to SW? |
| 19:16.02 | Tem | no event or anything |
| 19:16.02 | Daede | ~emulate Daede |
| 19:16.03 | purl | ACTION farted.. |
| 19:16.06 | NeoTron | I'd say overall 3.0 has slightly less impact than 2.0 though |
| 19:16.08 | Daede | purl, say excuse me |
| 19:16.09 | purl | excuse me |
| 19:16.10 | Anaral | Like with Tomtom, LightHeaded, all the addons I'm subbed to, I get two notifications every time there is an update. |
| 19:16.13 | Daede | ~botsnack |
| 19:16.13 | purl | thanks, Daede |
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| 19:16.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Tem: not really, but knowing what I know now, I just chalk it up to him being a jerk. |
| 19:16.23 | NeoTron | wow commenting on old post because my scrollback was behind |
| 19:18.03 | Tem | I'm just kind of disappointed that they just killed the whole missing diplomat storyline |
| 19:18.11 | Tem | and ploop! he's back in SW |
| 19:18.21 | Tem | Lady Prestor never happened! |
| 19:18.22 | zenzelezz | wait, The Missing Diplomat is gone too? |
| 19:18.28 | Industrial | they did? |
| 19:18.29 | Industrial | gay |
| 19:18.31 | Tem | the quests are still there |
| 19:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 shamanistic focus and elemental focus seem to stack in awesome ways to make my flame & frost shocks cost ~25 mana. >< |
| 19:18.36 | Industrial | one of the best storylines in wow |
| 19:18.37 | Tem | but the end of it |
| 19:18.40 | Tem | is gone |
| 19:18.41 | krka | not that there's anything wrong with that |
| 19:18.50 | Tem | (marshal windsor) |
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| 19:19.10 | NeoTron | speaking of quests, can you get attuned to onyxia anymore? |
| 19:19.17 | nevcairiel | no |
| 19:19.18 | Adys | not as alliance |
| 19:19.22 | Adys | but it doesnt require the attunement |
| 19:19.23 | nevcairiel | its not necessary anymore |
| 19:19.24 | Cairenn | Anaral: from WoWI, probably because we are so crazy busy our system is hiccoughing ... wowui, I haven't a clue |
| 19:19.26 | Adys | anyone using WIM3 ? |
| 19:19.39 | NeoTron | I swear a friend told me he couldn't get in there without it |
| 19:19.57 | NeoTron | maybe they removed the requirement to enter but forgot the locked gates |
| 19:19.58 | Cairenn | last I heard, wowui was down again |
| 19:20.02 | Daede | http://pastebin.com/d5faa1b96 Problem with freshly released Cartographer 2.2 |
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| 19:20.36 | Tem | Is there an inn somewhere in Shatt that I can set my hearth to that -isn't- on the shitty side of an elevator? |
| 19:20.47 | Adys | nope |
| 19:20.53 | Adys | but you can survive scryer elevator |
| 19:21.01 | Tem | but I'm draenei |
| 19:21.01 | Anaral | Cairenn: All right. Yeah, WowUI always sends quadruplets, you guys only send doubles on the more popular addons. |
| 19:21.03 | Daede | lower city, until you hit 68 then you have to choose aldor or scryer, i think |
| 19:21.14 | Tem | so the scryers can't like me until level 71ish |
| 19:21.17 | Tem | er |
| 19:21.19 | Tem | 61ish |
| 19:21.41 | Daede | lol @ draenei who go scryer |
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| 19:21.47 | Daede | what a lorescrew |
| 19:22.20 | Lunessa | Thanks for putting up with all the crazy during patch weeks. |
| 19:22.27 | Daede | thats like the draenei version of satan worship |
| 19:22.33 | Anaral | At least by the time I can play WoW again all the addons, at least the more popular ones will have the bigger bugs ironed out. It just was shocking to see my inbox filled with 50 updates from yesterday afternoon. |
| 19:22.37 | krka | patch weeks - is that some female thing? |
| 19:22.45 | krka | i thought it was only one week |
| 19:23.08 | krka | sure is crazy though |
| 19:23.56 | Codex| | any idea why female dranei and succubi's bodies are all green and textureless |
| 19:24.04 | Codex| | oh did they break the wow porno patch? ... :/ |
| 19:24.19 | Daede | you had a porno patch? |
| 19:24.32 | Codex| | nudie |
| 19:24.38 | Daede | if i send you $20, do you PROMISE to spend it on a hooker? |
| 19:24.47 | Tem | Codex|, I hope you get banned just on principle |
| 19:24.49 | Pytlask | Malgayne: will the talent calculator be fixed soon? *puppy dog eyes* |
| 19:25.22 | Malgayne | Shift + Refresh |
| 19:25.40 | Pytlask | <3 |
| 19:25.48 | Daede | (thats shift-f5 for the great unwashed) |
| 19:26.17 | Daede | so anyways |
| 19:26.19 | Malgayne | We had it fixed last night but peoples' systems cache teh old javascript. =/ |
| 19:26.31 | Daede | ill just deal with cart being broken for a coupel days.. i have great faith in ck |
| 19:26.49 | Daede | you guys keep doin what you do :) |
| 19:27.15 | Lunessa | Daede: You're going to have to send more than $20. Just saying. |
| 19:27.17 | Daede | goodbye, purl |
| 19:27.26 | Daede | purl sucks. |
| 19:27.27 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 19:27.39 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
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| 19:29.11 | Cidan | Isn't hacking textures enough to get you banned? |
| 19:29.20 | Lyn | never gonna give you up.. never gonna let you down ... lalala.. |
| 19:29.31 | Cairenn | Cidan: yes |
| 19:30.12 | Cidan | Codex|: You heard it here first. |
| 19:30.13 | Lunessa | Indeed. Hacking textures is naughty, detectable, and bannable. |
| 19:30.48 | Neuro_Medivh | also, if you're that hard up for nudie pics, lemme know, I'll give you the good links |
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| 19:31.28 | Neuro_Medivh | guaranteed to have the sex leg |
| 19:31.34 | Lunessa | Pssst Neuro_Medivh, everyone wants the sex leg. |
| 19:31.41 | Adys | Oh don't you tell me about the sex leg. |
| 19:32.16 | Neuro_Medivh | sadness... sexleg.com is just a holder/pointer site |
| 19:32.27 | Lunessa | lol |
| 19:33.02 | Neuro_Medivh | seriously though, for real porn, just go someplace like redtube |
| 19:33.10 | Neuro_Medivh | no need to get it in WoW |
| 19:33.51 | Lunessa | but, but but... it's WOW PORN! |
| 19:34.13 | Adys | Im sure theres warcraft porn on there somewhere too.. |
| 19:34.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+e *!*@125-238-251-155.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] by Shirik |
| 19:34.58 | Neuro_Medivh | Adys, there is |
| 19:35.04 | metaljunk | there is, World of Porncraft, its like elfs and orcs and shit, its terrible |
| 19:35.05 | Adys | I didnt want to know |
| 19:35.09 | metaljunk | really bad costumes and makup |
| 19:35.09 | Neuro_Medivh | www.whorelore.com (NSFW!) |
| 19:35.17 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-e *!*@125-238-251-155.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] by Shirik |
| 19:35.19 | Neuro_Medivh | used to be world of whorecraft, but Blizzard sued I think |
| 19:35.28 | NeoTron | if I want to delete a project, i.e the wotlk version of an addon that is no longer needed, can I do that or do I need admin help? |
| 19:36.19 | zenzelezz | any excuse to chat up Cairenn |
| 19:36.32 | Shirik | just ask NeoTron |
| 19:36.35 | Shirik | what project? |
| 19:36.45 | Cairenn | (give link, not just name) |
| 19:36.52 | Shirik | no Cairenn |
| 19:36.55 | Shirik | you sleep, I delete |
| 19:37.45 | Semhirage | any ideas how to macro something like [modifier:alt+shift] name of ability |
| 19:38.16 | Xinhuan | is alestane around? :) |
| 19:38.18 | NeoTron | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10238-MagicTargets-WotLKBetaVersion.html |
| 19:38.24 | NeoTron | thanks |
| 19:38.27 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.32 | Shirik | Semhirage: [mod:alt,mod:shift] |
| 19:38.35 | Xinhuan | need some help with those statheeaders |
| 19:38.49 | Shirik | just delete NeoTron? |
| 19:38.51 | Xinhuan | suppose i have an OnEnter anchor |
| 19:38.55 | Lunessa | Semhirage: you wan those to be AND or OR? |
| 19:38.59 | Xinhuan | that makes some buttons appear |
| 19:39.07 | Semhirage | Lunessa, and |
| 19:39.07 | Lunessa | Shirik got it. You go boy! |
| 19:39.12 | alestane | Okay. |
| 19:39.15 | Xinhuan | and an onleave one that hides them |
| 19:39.19 | Xinhuan | how do i delay the hiding? |
| 19:39.33 | alestane | control:SetAnimating(true) |
| 19:39.39 | Xinhuan | i don't want them to hide immediately on leaving the anchor |
| 19:39.43 | Codex| | is there a mod out to detect missing mounts and vanity pets? |
| 19:39.52 | Xinhuan | is the duration controllable? |
| 19:40.04 | Xinhuan | "control" here refers to the anchor? |
| 19:40.06 | Shirik | NeoTron: ping |
| 19:40.09 | Cidan | is there a way to move the damn Calendar button around the minimap? |
| 19:40.18 | NeoTron | Shirik: sorry, yes, just delete |
| 19:40.22 | alestane | NO, it refers to "control" inside the secure environment. |
| 19:40.27 | alestane | sry caps. |
| 19:40.40 | Xinhuan | i think i'm lost now hehe |
| 19:40.45 | alestane | The code from Demonomicon in the intro I posted explains bascially how to do it. |
| 19:40.58 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 19:40.59 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shirik |
| 19:41.02 | alestane | You'd move it from a click handler to a _onleave handler. |
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| 19:41.56 | Semhirage | woot, thx shirik |
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| 19:42.07 | Xinhuan | i'll try to reread that beforei ask you questions again, thanks :) |
| 19:42.26 | Floxinz | are there any good map mods besides cart3 and mapster? |
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| 19:42.58 | uglymug187 | can someone tell me if they know of an addon that works with 3.0 that has the split quest log like cosmos? i really like that style of quest log but im having trouble of finding something similiar. |
| 19:43.14 | Floxinz | doublewide |
| 19:43.32 | zenzelezz | if there's one thing more annoying than being a ghost in Orgrimmar, it's being a ghost in an Orgrimmar that's down |
| 19:44.22 | Dewin | it's okay Zen, I just had Outlands crash one me |
| 19:44.26 | Dewin | s/one/on/ |
| 19:44.46 | Dewin | guess I'll go work on fixing Progression while I wait |
| 19:44.52 | Dewin | I somehow broke the resize ability. |
| 19:45.48 | Shirik | NeoTron: Sorry it took forever; all set |
| 19:46.00 | uglymug187 | Thanks for the addon floxinz |
| 19:46.26 | NeoTron | Shirik: no problems and thanks |
| 19:46.52 | Floxinz | so theres no other map mods besides cart3 and mapster? |
| 19:47.14 | Dewin | cart2 works as well. |
| 19:47.36 | Dashkal | Floxinz: What features are you looking for? What's wrong with the two you mentioned for your purposes? |
| 19:48.21 | Dewin | Cartographer3 is... yuck, IMHO |
| 19:48.26 | Floxinz | I really just want a normal map with fogclear and cart3 has a crazy new style and mapster forces the map to resize |
| 19:48.46 | Dewin | though it might be possible to configure Cartographer3 out of the defaults, the config UI does't come up last time I tried |
| 19:48.58 | Dewin | Cartographer2 works fine Floxinz, try the addon survival guide |
| 19:49.16 | alestane | The Cartographer2 release I got from Curse appears to be FuBar. |
| 19:49.32 | Shirik | it is fubar or it is FuBar? |
| 19:49.38 | kd3 | he updated again iirc. it's still throwing an error, but it's working fine afaik |
| 19:53.05 | uglymug187 | ya Cart3 sucks big i dont like that new style at all |
| 19:53.52 | Floxinz | I thought he was going to abandon 2 for 3 |
| 19:54.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Someone else did some updates on 2. |
| 19:54.57 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight hasn't touched Carto2 in ages. |
| 19:55.02 | Wikwocket | You know you can never abandon a mod, it will just live on as Cartographer 2 Continued Fan Update B Resurrection |
| 19:55.21 | ckknight | ick |
| 19:55.23 | ckknight | no |
| 19:55.27 | ckknight | I hope not, at least |
| 19:55.42 | ckknight | I've no problem with people making updates to Cart2 proper |
| 19:55.52 | ckknight | I don't think fan updates or divergent forks are good karma |
| 19:56.07 | Wikwocket | hehe |
| 19:57.01 | Floxinz | Yea i want to move away from anything cartographer |
| 19:57.08 | ckknight | that's fine |
| 19:57.13 | Floxinz | I have nightmares about all those unanswered tickets |
| 19:57.21 | ckknight | no one's stopping you |
| 19:58.10 | Floxinz | that was a reply to my map questions above |
| 19:59.15 | Floxinz | nothing personal, I'm not having any luck with mapster support either |
| 19:59.18 | ckknight | well, hopefully tonight if I feel up to it, I'll try to get Cart2 in a working state |
| 19:59.25 | ckknight | but I make no promises |
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| 20:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Floxinz: out of curiosity, what is it about mapster you dont like? |
| 20:04.16 | Tem | it probably "doesn't work" |
| 20:04.47 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* working fine for me.. |
| 20:06.20 | |Jelly| | Is there a functional totem mod out there? |
| 20:06.34 | Floxinz | it works fine I just don't like how it resizes |
| 20:07.24 | kneeki | Which mod should I PM on WoWI for addon deletion 'n so forth? |
| 20:07.25 | Floxinz | cartographer2 does as well but if you disable look and feel it goes full screen I can't figure out how to do that with mapster if I even can |
| 20:08.36 | NightHawkTheSane | you can increase the scale back to 100%.. |
| 20:08.39 | Malgayne | Cairenn should be able to help you out kneeki |
| 20:08.45 | kneeki | Thanks =) |
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| 20:09.24 | Floxinz | yes but it still doesn't go fullscreen like the map is without mods |
| 20:10.25 | Floxinz | I have the scale at 100% and hit M and I can still see the sides of my screen, like the minimap sidebars player frame etc |
| 20:11.04 | NightHawkTheSane | thats probably just because the default UI blocks those out, but map mods don't. *shrug* i doubt that "100%" scale is different between the two |
| 20:12.16 | Floxinz | I was able to get it with cartographer2 by disabling look and feel, it isn't really the scale that bothers me I just prefer to only see the map when I'm looking at the map |
| 20:13.02 | Codex| | can you only get 5 pages maiximum worth of mounts and minipets? |
| 20:13.10 | Codex| | what happens when i fill up page 5 of 5 |
| 20:13.47 | Codex| | 5 pages of pets, 3 of mounts |
| 20:14.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, how many is it per page.. 8? |
| 20:14.27 | Codex| | yes |
| 20:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | so.. lets play the math game. |
| 20:14.38 | Codex| | 12 rather |
| 20:14.39 | Floxinz | the way I understood it is that it keep expanding |
| 20:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ok.. |
| 20:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | 3 pages of mounts * 12 mounts per page = 36 mounts? |
| 20:14.55 | Codex| | i am 4 mounts away from the max amount of pages |
| 20:15.05 | Dewin | wtb addon manager with profiles |
| 20:15.06 | NightHawkTheSane | given that there's an achievement for 50 mounts. i'll let you figure out the rest. |
| 20:19.28 | Codex| | anyone getting spammed with gibberish messages by random players every 10 sec? |
| 20:23.03 | Codex| | (on irc) |
| 20:24.27 | NightHawkTheSane | now that you mention it, indeed. |
| 20:24.55 | NightHawkTheSane | looks like our spammer friends may have moved to spamming individual users. |
| 20:26.47 | Ose | gief compatible version of OneBag (or a simmilar addon) plx :P |
| 20:26.59 | erikd | ArkInventory! |
| 20:27.44 | Dewin | ArkInventory or Combuctor |
| 20:27.45 | kd3 | there's an alpha version of onebag3 on wowace that works fine |
| 20:31.00 | Adys | what has GetNumRaidMembers() been replaced with? |
| 20:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. it hasn't been replaced? |
| 20:31.52 | Adys | weird |
| 20:32.01 | Adys | giving me an error it being nil in wim |
| 20:32.33 | Syzgyn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/98377 Why is this not triggering Even when frame:IsShown() is changing values? |
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| 20:35.16 | Pazza_ | Adys: Open Negotiate.lua in notepad and replace GetNumRaidMembers() with _G.GetNumRaidMembers() |
| 20:35.32 | Adys | oh |
| 20:35.54 | Pazza_ | its a bug. i'll probably have that along with some other bugs patched tonight |
| 20:36.22 | Adys | Pazza_: you're one of the devs/the author? |
| 20:36.55 | Adys | Pazza_: if so, where are the tabs :p |
| 20:37.12 | Pazza_ | They are there. just not grouped automatically atm |
| 20:37.26 | Pazza_ | drag a window on top of another while holding down the shift key :-) |
| 20:37.31 | Adys | oh |
| 20:37.49 | Pazza_ | you have to group them manually atm |
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| 20:38.22 | Adys | cheers |
| 20:42.06 | p3lim | more spam bots attacking me |
| 20:42.40 | p3lim | Shirik: what was that command to make me unable to pm by unregistered users? |
| 20:42.44 | Pytlask | Is that a blizzard bug or a WIM bug? |
| 20:43.17 | p3lim | im using xchat |
| 20:43.23 | foxlit | p3lim: ask nickserv for help? |
| 20:43.25 | durcyn | umode +r i believe |
| 20:43.31 | Xinhuan | alestane: the pdf says there is a control:RunMethod(), was this removed? |
| 20:43.49 | alestane | I believe it was changed to :CallMethod(). |
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| 20:44.03 | Xinhuan | can that run unsecure stuff? |
| 20:44.27 | alestane | It can, but it can't pass any returns back into the secure code. |
| 20:45.00 | Xinhuan | so i should use that to print debugging stuff yes? |
| 20:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | p3lim: +E (note the caps) |
| 20:45.21 | alestane | print() is actually available inside the secure environment IIRC. |
| 20:45.31 | alestane | Since that's about the only way to debug. |
| 20:45.36 | p3lim | ok thanks NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:45.48 | NightHawkTheSane | also, freenode.net's website is fairly helpful |
| 20:45.51 | Xinhuan | hmm i'll try |
| 20:45.58 | p3lim | wait, how did i use that again? |
| 20:45.59 | Xinhuan | ah yes you are correct |
| 20:46.07 | Xinhuan | i was about to assign anchor.print = print |
| 20:46.09 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.10 | Xinhuan | and callmethod it |
| 20:47.04 | alestane | CallMethod is primarily intended for manipulating things that don't require security, and often pose potential security risks. Manipulating a frame's textures to match its attributes is one example. |
| 20:48.26 | Pazza_ | Pytlask: whats that? the Negotiate bug? |
| 20:49.32 | foxlit | Ah. |
| 20:49.32 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-rRf] by Shiibot |
| 20:49.37 | foxlit | I see. |
| 20:49.46 | foxlit | Now if only I could find a dead world server to test against |
| 20:50.03 | Wikwocket | Azuremyst was dead a minute ago |
| 20:50.28 | foxlit | Problem is, I need a reliably dead server, not an occasionally dying one. :) |
| 20:51.04 | Hirsute | foxlit: To test what against? |
| 20:51.13 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: travel back in time to when northrend went down more than a corner whore? |
| 20:51.25 | foxlit | I think I've found my erase-all-settings problem. |
| 20:51.33 | Hirsute | Ah |
| 20:51.38 | foxlit | If you happen to attempt to log in while world is down, PLAYER_LOGIN fires, but PEW does not |
| 20:51.51 | foxlit | (or so my current theory goes) |
| 20:51.52 | cladhaire | very interesting |
| 20:52.06 | Hirsute | Aaah |
| 20:52.10 | NightHawkTheSane | that almost makes sense |
| 20:52.12 | foxlit | Some of my initialization is done on PEW, which is ultimately bypassed in a LOGIN -> LOGOUT chain of a dead world server. |
| 20:53.27 | |Jelly| | ckknight: ping |
| 20:54.08 | Xinhuan | alestane: apparently, if i SecureHandlerWrapScript() a "OnLeave" script, it doesn't work at all unless it also has a wrapped OnEnter script |
| 20:54.42 | alestane | The code is all in SecureHandlers.lua, I'd have to look. |
| 20:55.05 | kamdis | oh kd3, Slouken quoted you. |
| 20:55.09 | kamdis | aren't YOU special |
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| 20:55.13 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 20:55.15 | foxlit | Out of interest, what's to stop me from doing malicious handler invocations to sneak data into my secure code? |
| 20:55.18 | Josh_Borke | SS or it didn't happen |
| 20:55.22 | Xinhuan | according to the code, it needs the wrapped OnEnter to set "_wrapentered" |
| 20:55.28 | Xinhuan | so that OnLeave wrapper will fire |
| 20:55.39 | foxlit | Some sort of issecure check on wrapper scripts? :) |
| 20:55.45 | Xinhuan | that's *kind of* lame? |
| 20:56.59 | Xinhuan | i just wanted a onleave wrapper to delay some header code! |
| 20:57.14 | Xinhuan | took me a while to figure out it doesn't fire at all unless i have a dummy Onenter wrapper |
| 20:59.06 | kd3 | oh geez. slouken's copypastaing me a good big |
| 20:59.15 | kd3 | s/big/bit/ |
| 20:59.48 | ckknight | |Jelly|: pong |
| 21:00.10 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 21:03.52 | frop | hello |
| 21:03.57 | frop | isn't opthouse updated? |
| 21:06.13 | Tem | okay that's awesome |
| 21:06.24 | Tem | the barber shop scales it's price based on your level |
| 21:06.39 | cladhaire | the hair grows crusty :P |
| 21:07.19 | |Jelly| | ckknight: Any idea why, when I'm not near my party, Cowtip doesn't show the tooltip for them? |
| 21:07.31 | ckknight | oh, I'm not sure |
| 21:07.40 | ckknight | get any errors? |
| 21:07.59 | Syzgyn | Hm, that might be what's happening with me too, no errors |
| 21:08.23 | |Jelly| | No errors, that I can see. |
| 21:10.10 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 21:10.13 | cladhaire | is Eclipse good? |
| 21:10.26 | cladhaire | I can't decide whether 3 in that, or finishing off Genesis is better |
| 21:10.37 | cladhaire | meh eff it |
| 21:10.40 | cladhaire | Genesis is free damage |
| 21:10.43 | cladhaire | I have to think about eclipse :P |
| 21:12.19 | cladhaire | lol why |
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| 21:12.21 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 21:12.23 | cladhaire | if i spec down to ooc |
| 21:12.25 | cladhaire | i dont get starfall |
| 21:12.29 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly because i never spec out of feral :P |
| 21:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | so it was taking up bag space |
| 21:12.49 | cladhaire | that really only hurts me when aoeing.. which i only do when plevelings |
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| 21:13.46 | Tem | lol |
| 21:13.57 | Tem | there's a Deaths from Hogger stat |
| 21:14.26 | Adys | huh |
| 21:14.33 | Adys | I lost 5 days /played from my list |
| 21:15.21 | kd3 | oh wow... /.: Bob Colayco from Blizzard just contacted us to mention that if users wish to leave feedback about open sourcing games, support for Linux, or anything else you would like to express to them, you should do so in the comments section of this story. They plan on perusing the comments below for user feedback and interest, so don't be shy. |
| 21:16.21 | Adys | apps under wine tend to run better than their native counterpart |
| 21:17.29 | Adys | though i wouldnt say no to a peek to wow's source |
| 21:17.31 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: wow |
| 21:17.32 | erikd | kd3: yeah, i'm going to be posting in support of a linux client :) |
| 21:18.13 | Adys | tho if this means i can have hardware cursor under opengl im taker :) |
| 21:19.18 | |Jelly| | ckknight: http://www.hdimage.org/images/2zyx6ssd91m7rluxkahy_ocrnhot101508161642.jpg (I tried to c/p it but ... it didn't like that any) |
| 21:19.38 | |Jelly| | That's the only error that's not dealing with a cartographer plugin that I've seen. |
| 21:20.07 | Adys | nevcairiel: Buff/Buff.lua:246 attempt to compare number with string |
| 21:20.12 | Adys | (quartz) |
| 21:20.19 | Adys | if duration and duration > 0 then -- the line |
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| 21:21.41 | linear` | how do you make the right action bars stay where u want them to with setpoint |
| 21:21.43 | linear` | they like move back |
| 21:22.03 | Cidan | linear`: What do you mean? |
| 21:22.10 | cladhaire | I need a UBRS key |
| 21:22.12 | Cidan | linear`: Do they just move back by them self? |
| 21:22.13 | linear` | i did |
| 21:22.14 | cladhaire | want to get my title =/ |
| 21:22.14 | linear` | MultiBarRight:ClearAllPoints(); MultiBarRight:SetPoint("CENTER") |
| 21:22.17 | linear` | my queue pops |
| 21:22.20 | linear` | and it moves back to the right side |
| 21:22.25 | kd3 | lbrs is soloable, isn't it? |
| 21:22.33 | cladhaire | yeah I guess |
| 21:22.36 | cladhaire | bit getting the key bits sucks |
| 21:22.39 | cladhaire | but rather |
| 21:22.46 | linear` | yeah they move back by themself |
| 21:22.53 | Cidan | linear`: An event is tied to the bar and is resetting the position, you'll need to unbind whatever event is making it do that |
| 21:23.01 | bleeter | cladhaire: the gems are 100% chance to drop these days, I believe |
| 21:23.02 | NeoTron | cladhaire: it doesn't anymore since the gems are guaranteed drops |
| 21:23.09 | NeoTron | I solod it on my DK on beta |
| 21:23.11 | cladhaire | oh nice! |
| 21:23.13 | cladhaire | thanks :P |
| 21:23.20 | bleeter | np mate glad to help :) |
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| 21:23.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, its pretty trivial to solo |
| 21:23.36 | bleeter | NeoTron: thanks for confirming my non-caffiienated early morning thought haha |
| 21:23.41 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 21:25.19 | linear` | hm i probably have to hook MainMenuBar_ToPlayerArt |
| 21:25.21 | linear` | to make it stay |
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| 21:27.29 | Tuller | nananananana |
| 21:27.48 | bleeter | (on a piano) |
| 21:28.56 | Wraanger | hrm ...question : anyone know why MainMenyBar:SetPoint('BOTTOM',UIParent,0,-250) does not work anymore ? |
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| 21:29.13 | Wraanger | MainMenu* |
| 21:29.15 | foxlit | define does not work |
| 21:29.43 | Wraanger | i have an addon with small UI tweaks .... it used to hide main menu bar, set UI scale etc |
| 21:29.58 | Wraanger | now .... i log on ...and main menu bar stays there |
| 21:30.01 | kontroll | Hello guys. I kinda need to know how to find the frame name of oUF's frames. I've had zero luck in doing so thus far, and it's getting a bit annoying. :< |
| 21:30.06 | Wraanger | also, UI scale does not change too |
| 21:30.14 | Syzgyn | Does it throw an error? |
| 21:30.18 | Wraanger | nope |
| 21:30.29 | Syzgyn | something else might be keeping it there? |
| 21:30.41 | Wraanger | nothing else is in the addons dir |
| 21:30.46 | Syzgyn | No idea |
| 21:30.54 | Wraanger | specially do it with clean install |
| 21:31.04 | Syzgyn | kontroll: Mouse over it and GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 21:31.09 | kontroll | Not working. |
| 21:31.30 | Wraanger | kontroll: try /run local f = GetMouseFocus(); if f then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(f:GetName()) end |
| 21:31.50 | kontroll | Nothing. |
| 21:31.52 | cladhaire | HOT |
| 21:31.59 | linear` | kontroll theres something that keeps it there |
| 21:32.02 | linear` | i cant move the right action bar |
| 21:32.09 | cladhaire | clearcasting can proc off landing on a flight path |
| 21:32.12 | cladhaire | rawk! |
| 21:32.12 | kontroll | Worked for Minimap though, but that's not what I'm after. :P |
| 21:32.30 | kontroll | linear`: Wut? |
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| 21:32.57 | Syzgyn | kontroll: Dunno what to tell you, I was able to do it just fine with my oUF |
| 21:33.04 | linear` | like if you do MultiBarRight:ClearAllPoints(); MultiBarRight:SetPoint("CENTER") it wont stick |
| 21:33.24 | Xinhuan | it wn't stick because the default UI repositions them on many events |
| 21:33.33 | Xinhuan | you have to do stuff to tell the default UI not to do it |
| 21:33.47 | kontroll | Syzgyn: Neither the Lily style nor p3lim give me any frame names. |
| 21:33.56 | Syzgyn | Does it return ""? |
| 21:33.58 | Syzgyn | or nil? |
| 21:34.01 | p3lim | oUF.units.player |
| 21:34.10 | p3lim | if youre looking for a global name |
| 21:34.11 | kontroll | It's not giving any errors, so I'd assume "". |
| 21:34.23 | Syzgyn | name could be nil |
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| 21:35.22 | p3lim | kontroll: what do you need the names for? |
| 21:35.22 | Pazza_ | does AceConsole-3 not print literals anymore? it just returns tables as table:0xHEX |
| 21:35.23 | kontroll | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:35.28 | kontroll | p3lim: eePanels. :P |
| 21:35.34 | p3lim | odd, it should work.. |
| 21:36.05 | p3lim | oUF.units should return the global frame 'name', talk to haste if he's not busy |
| 21:37.13 | p3lim | yap, it works for me |
| 21:37.19 | kontroll | Very strange. |
| 21:37.31 | p3lim | what frame do you want to anchor it to? |
| 21:37.34 | p3lim | the panel |
| 21:37.57 | kontroll | Multiple panels actually, player, target, ToT. |
| 21:38.44 | kontroll | Which is why I figure they need a parent (so they will show and hide accordingly). |
| 21:38.49 | p3lim | yeah |
| 21:38.56 | p3lim | test this ingame: |
| 21:39.09 | p3lim | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.20 | p3lim | does the player frame hide when you unselect a target? |
| 21:39.46 | kontroll | Yes. |
| 21:39.50 | p3lim | then it works |
| 21:39.55 | kontroll | Clearly. |
| 21:39.55 | kontroll | :P |
| 21:39.59 | p3lim | odd that eepanels doesnt take it :/ |
| 21:41.02 | kd3 | heheh. more memories of beta, just watching world servers crash and crash and crash... |
| 21:41.03 | Tuller | ugh, I hate how people are assuming stuff about dominos :P |
| 21:41.15 | kontroll | Such as? |
| 21:42.19 | kontroll | hax = oUF.units.player -> anchor eePanel to hax doesn't throw an error. ;P |
| 21:42.49 | Tuller | that its impossible to hide bars; impossible to do 15 button bars :P |
| 21:43.13 | NightHawkTheSane | people are idiots. :p |
| 21:43.34 | kontroll | *shrug* They see what the UI options give them. |
| 21:43.55 | Tuller | yeah well, one of the UI options _is_ to hide bars, assuming you read the tooltip :P |
| 21:44.06 | Dewin | I need a name for this guy: http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/skins/skin_lynxskinred.php |
| 21:44.08 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. who reads? |
| 21:44.10 | Dewin | Suggestions? :) |
| 21:44.19 | kontroll | But not to give them more than 12 buttons per bar. |
| 21:44.30 | linear` | whats a good text searching program |
| 21:44.32 | linear` | thats free |
| 21:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | grep |
| 21:44.40 | Dewin | grep? |
| 21:44.46 | kontroll | Afaik anyway. I haven't needed more than 10 wide, and for no other reasons than to put CooldownCount on something, so I wouldn't really know. |
| 21:44.50 | NeoTron | I'm a rebel - egrep |
| 21:44.57 | kontroll | find! |
| 21:45.01 | Dewin | egrep IS grep. >.> |
| 21:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: i egrepped your mom. |
| 21:45.07 | NeoTron | Dewin: I am aware |
| 21:45.14 | NeoTron | but with more complex regexps! |
| 21:45.14 | Dewin | grep -e, to be specific |
| 21:45.23 | NeoTron | egrep is shorter than grep -e |
| 21:45.30 | KarlKFI | Tekkub: what's you addon enable/disable mod called again? |
| 21:45.30 | NeoTron | two letters matter |
| 21:45.40 | Tekkub | ampere |
| 21:45.52 | KarlKFI | just obscure neough that i never remember it and cant google for it |
| 21:46.03 | Dewin | Tekkub: How hard would it be to make it support profiles for what addons to load? |
| 21:46.26 | NeoTron | as a note, ACP seems to work fine in 3.0 too |
| 21:46.29 | Tekkub | use AddonLoader :P |
| 21:46.32 | NeoTron | Dewin: don't go there, he bites! |
| 21:46.39 | Dewin | AddonLoader? |
| 21:46.51 | kontroll | ACP does indeed work. |
| 21:46.57 | NightHawkTheSane | addonloader? i hardly know er! |
| 21:47.11 | Dewin | My particular case is wanting to mass-disable all non-development addons for dev purposes |
| 21:47.13 | NeoTron | which reminds me I probably should make my addons use some sort of load of demand |
| 21:47.28 | NeoTron | Dewin: make an alt |
| 21:48.06 | Dewin | That's what I was doing earlier, but I don't like that approach ;) |
| 21:48.16 | Dewin | besides, I kind of need a higher level character for a good portion of the testing |
| 21:48.17 | NeoTron | ACP |
| 21:48.26 | Dewin | looking fori t |
| 21:48.38 | kontroll | I can mirror it, but it should be on Curse. |
| 21:49.07 | Tekkub | Dewin, I keep a "cleanroom" copy of wow, symlint the data folder |
| 21:49.08 | kontroll | http://bonescraper.net/ACP.ZIP |
| 21:49.12 | NeoTron | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/acp.aspx |
| 21:49.19 | NightHawkTheSane | this monkey's gone to heaven! |
| 21:49.26 | Tekkub | essentially a second install, and drop only the addon I'm workin gon in there |
| 21:49.46 | kontroll | Tekkub is made of clever. :P |
| 21:50.20 | Syzgyn | I'd do that if I had the space for it :P |
| 21:50.59 | NeoTron | Syzgyn: but you don't need space since you use symlinks :P |
| 21:51.10 | kontroll | If you do it like Tekkub you're only duplicating ~200 megs. |
| 21:51.17 | Syzgyn | That would assume I know what symlinks are :D |
| 21:51.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 21:51.48 | Tekkub | sorry, symlink the data and cache folders |
| 21:51.51 | Syzgyn | DONT JUDGE ME! |
| 21:51.59 | NightHawkTheSane | alias/shortcut/ln -s :P |
| 21:52.01 | NeoTron | not a common thing to know about on Windows |
| 21:52.13 | Tuller | damn you azeroth |
| 21:52.25 | Syzgyn | NightHawkTheSane: That didnt help |
| 21:52.31 | bleeter | screw symlinks, I've been meaning to put them into a distributed file system |
| 21:52.31 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 21:53.08 | bleeter | (on a piano) |
| 21:53.54 | Wraanger | why use second install? when you can just have two sets of Interface / WTF dirs ? |
| 21:54.19 | Tekkub | it's not a second install |
| 21:54.22 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.26 | Dewin | The reason I'd rather have an addon enabling/disabling based method is I don't want to have to sync a bunch of stuff :) |
| 21:54.28 | Tekkub | it just looks like one |
| 21:54.52 | Tekkub | then symlink the addon folder too |
| 21:55.23 | Dewin | and I might want to work on addons for awhile and then start actually playing |
| 21:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> what would you have to sync? |
| 21:55.41 | Dewin | version updates to addons that are the development environment that I also use while playing |
| 21:55.49 | Tem | someday I'll finish Overlord |
| 21:55.57 | NightHawkTheSane | svn co; svn up? |
| 21:55.57 | NeoTron | only thing you can't share is WTF |
| 21:55.59 | bleeter | oh, and for the record, egrep/grep -E is not portable afaik |
| 21:56.02 | NeoTron | everyithing else can be linked |
| 21:56.07 | NightHawkTheSane | or whatever the git versions are |
| 21:56.08 | NeoTron | so just link Interface and no syncing is needed |
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| 21:57.30 | Tem | and it'll be hella better than ACP or addonloader or whatever that thing tek wrote is |
| 21:57.48 | Tekkub | Amp's simple :P |
| 22:00.26 | Kirov | ACP is awesome |
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| 22:04.22 | NightHawkTheSane | oh dear god.. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/obama_hubris_watch |
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| 22:06.46 | Floxinz | death to all niggers and queers! |
| 22:07.20 | NightHawkTheSane | can uh.. we get a ban on him for that? |
| 22:07.54 | bleeter | are they a regular? if so, prolly. if not, prolly some random channel spammer. |
| 22:08.32 | NightHawkTheSane | he's been here for a while *shrug* |
| 22:08.34 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b floxinz!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 22:09.25 | bleeter | I guess that answers that question! |
| 22:09.49 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 Cairenn |
| 22:10.33 | Cairenn | indeed it does |
| 22:11.05 | Cairenn | he's never been in here before today - was (mostly) fine earlier, but that wasn't acceptable |
| 22:11.13 | Dashkal | Cairenn: <3 |
| 22:11.43 | Cairenn | most things, I'll yell at someone once (or twice or ...) and tell them to behave |
| 22:11.52 | Cairenn | but not something like that ... |
| 22:11.54 | bleeter | with any luck, they're like that Chapelle character |
| 22:11.55 | ajmitch | that wasn't a reasonable person |
| 22:12.16 | bleeter | Clayton Bigsby |
| 22:12.59 | Dashkal | Thats the kind of thing to say when the goal is simply to piss people off... |
| 22:13.16 | bleeter | (a blind white supremicist who was, in fact, black) |
| 22:15.03 | kontroll | So, for anyone who tried helping me with eePanels earlier, I gave up on that and recreated the frame within the oUF layout itself. Ugly, but it works. ;P |
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| 22:16.14 | Neuro_Medivh | death to all.... hmm, I don't hate anyone enough for death... |
| 22:16.37 | Neuro_Medivh | inconvenience to all people who I dislike for no good reason! |
| 22:17.02 | schnoggo | so... macroish question: |
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| 22:17.21 | erikd | should change the ban to *!*floxinz@200.222.46.46 |
| 22:17.28 | Dashkal | May the walk signal turn to stop just before you get there! |
| 22:17.40 | Neuro_Medivh | that's harsh, Dashkal |
| 22:17.41 | bleeter | Dashkal: ooh, dem's fitin' words! |
| 22:17.52 | erikd | it's easy to get past a blah!*@* ban |
| 22:18.11 | Dashkal | It is, but it doesn't look like twit bothered |
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| 22:18.34 | Ktron | woohoo, work day over, time to go do 302 dishes and then play 3.0.2 for 3.02 hours at least, I wish I could for 30.2 hours |
| 22:19.05 | schnoggo | Can (from a macro) I address conpanion slots by #? I know CallCompanion will get me there, but that's tough to use in macro sinc it would require a /run |
| 22:19.19 | erikd | first raid at 70 with the new patch tonight, should be interesting |
| 22:19.21 | Dashkal | I'm not so sure I'd be enjoying 3.0.2 after 30.2 hours... more like that hopped up caffeine-is-my-blood rush kinda state |
| 22:19.24 | erikd | especially without nourish =/ |
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| 22:19.53 | erikd | i'm debating using the HT glyph but then my NS HT will be gimped |
| 22:20.01 | Dashkal | First thing my guild did when I got on that evening was a bunch of us got our Jenkins titles :p |
| 22:20.21 | erikd | yeah, gchat was spammed with [Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeroy] last night |
| 22:20.22 | MiximUmz | hello everyone |
| 22:20.30 | erikd | i need to get mine done |
| 22:20.37 | erikd | i was busy with inscription |
| 22:20.46 | erikd | got to 365 before everything went grey |
| 22:20.56 | Dashkal | I'm having an issue with the rip glyph. It doesn't quite extend rip enough for a second rotation |
| 22:21.12 | Dashkal | Not without omen |
| 22:21.28 | Dashkal | And, well, berserk was just too sexy to give up |
| 22:21.43 | erikd | i was sad when i saw all the crappy resto glyphs there are at 70 =/ |
| 22:21.51 | erikd | i'm probably going to end up using rebirth and rejuv |
| 22:22.02 | erikd | i wish i could get lifebloom, innervate or swiftmend |
| 22:22.10 | erikd | rebirth is a waste of a glyph |
| 22:22.10 | Pytlask | For feral pvp I went with shred and rejuv |
| 22:22.10 | Dashkal | I'm pretty sure I'll be getting rebirth, rip, and maul. |
| 22:22.15 | bleeter | I lost all my glyphs last night in a DC/rollback :( |
| 22:22.20 | Dashkal | what does shred do again? |
| 22:22.29 | erikd | you only get 2 major glyphs at 70, remember |
| 22:22.33 | Pytlask | increases shred damage by 20% while target is stunned or incapacitated |
| 22:22.36 | erikd | 3rd doesn't get unlocked until 80 |
| 22:22.36 | Dashkal | ahh |
| 22:22.43 | TC-Away | ok Esamynn, i am uploaded with the exception of one because it's to big |
| 22:22.44 | Pytlask | makes for some awesome burst |
| 22:22.46 | Dashkal | erikd: forgot about that. rip/maul then |
| 22:23.06 | Dashkal | I never ran into that on beta. My DK was 80 before the glyph vendor was implemented |
| 22:23.07 | erikd | my minor glyph i learned yesterday was an arcane intellect one that reduces the mana cost of AI/AB by 50% |
| 22:23.18 | erikd | yeah, same |
| 22:23.18 | bleeter | I took shred and rake for a few lols |
| 22:23.27 | Pytlask | I don't really get the rake one |
| 22:23.34 | Pytlask | Unless it maybe works like JoJ? |
| 22:23.46 | Dashkal | Rake would be more interesting to be if I didn't have infected wounds |
| 22:24.06 | bleeter | well, the way I read it I was thinking kitty charge, pounce, some stuff, then shred, in PvP would piss ppl off |
| 22:24.17 | erikd | maybe i'll just get a starfire and rejuv glyph |
| 22:24.19 | Neuro_Medivh | I'm making alts specifically to get to 75 inscription and learn minor glyphs |
| 22:24.38 | Neuro_Medivh | they're the cash makers right now, sadly |
| 22:25.04 | erikd | yeah, probably will be until you get major glyph dailies in wotlk |
| 22:25.12 | Dashkal | Of course they are: they're rare |
| 22:25.27 | erikd | i want to get the polar bear minor glyph |
| 22:25.30 | Dashkal | *shrugs* I may just not bother glyphing out until wotlk launch |
| 22:25.32 | erikd | that'll be a HUGE money maker |
| 22:25.45 | erikd | or the lynx |
| 22:25.51 | Dashkal | Do those still exist? |
| 22:26.01 | erikd | i dunno, i thought so |
| 22:26.05 | erikd | i hope so :) |
| 22:26.07 | Dashkal | heh |
| 22:26.10 | erikd | i want 'em for myself |
| 22:26.22 | Dashkal | Just curious. They're talking about new forms post 3.0 using some other mechanic |
| 22:26.28 | bleeter | I was under the imopression they weren't happy with the idea of losing a glyph slot or two for form changes, given druids have so many forms. |
| 22:26.35 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 22:26.46 | Dashkal | Exactly. But they never said they were removing the glyphs either. |
| 22:27.08 | erikd | i don't see them on wowhead |
| 22:27.15 | erikd | maybe they're really gone |
| 22:27.19 | Dashkal | That said, as much as I want to change my form, I wouldn't want to give up even a minor slot for that |
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| 22:27.35 | NeoTron | is minor glyph discovery a daily quest? |
| 22:27.59 | Dashkal | Day cooldown recipie I think |
| 22:28.00 | MiximUmz | is there an update to cartograph2 with no errors? I can not live without my map |
| 22:28.04 | erikd | neotron: yeah |
| 22:28.07 | erikd | i think it's 20 hours |
| 22:28.22 | Cairenn | MiximUmz: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer.aspx |
| 22:28.28 | erikd | does wowhead have a filter for minor glyphs? |
| 22:28.39 | MiximUmz | you are my hero |
| 22:28.57 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/survivalguide.php ;) |
| 22:29.39 | Dashkal | sadly no. Since 'minor' doesn't appear in any columns you can't even do a custom filter |
| 22:29.44 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: not as far as i can see |
| 22:29.56 | erikd | that's too bad |
| 22:30.02 | erikd | i should suggest it :) |
| 22:30.18 | kontroll | Cairenn: Get a working Discord Unit Frames release on that list and I will love you forever! Or at least until the next expansion! |
| 22:30.25 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: indeed |
| 22:30.27 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:30.27 | erikd | i suppose you can just filter and look for the blue icons |
| 22:31.20 | Dashkal | Drat, effect text doesn't work either |
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| 22:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | 2.4k rep to exalted UC, i bet I can do that just from silverpine & sfk |
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| 22:32.20 | erikd | do rep from tabards work yet? |
| 22:32.54 | Dashkal | erikd: I don't believe they implemented that for old world/outlands reps. But if the tabard requires friendly and gives a buff, then yes |
| 22:32.58 | erikd | actually, i suppose it wouldn't since you need to be exalted for them |
| 22:32.59 | MiximUmz | I like these addons that don't have pictures or real descriptions, does chatter add timestamps and chatcopy? or is there another addon that does that, maybe one smaller than prat? |
| 22:33.12 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: no, for the reasons you just noted :) |
| 22:33.28 | Thunder_Child | MiximUmz, prat is modular, you can make it as small as you want |
| 22:33.29 | erikd | that's too bad, i want shattered sun and keepers of time rep |
| 22:33.42 | Dashkal | MiximUmz: Prat and Chatter both do it. They also have lots of modules you probably don't want, but the beauty is they can be turned off |
| 22:33.45 | Thunder_Child | to an extent of course |
| 22:33.55 | Syzgyn | Chatter has been freaking out for me today |
| 22:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: shattered sun is easy :p |
| 22:34.16 | MiximUmz | sounds like chatter should be avoided then |
| 22:34.20 | Thunder_Child | it's patch day, what do you expect? |
| 22:34.24 | Syzgyn | I'm sure it'll get fixed |
| 22:34.27 | Syzgyn | just saying :P |
| 22:34.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: howso? been working fine for me |
| 22:34.35 | erikd | i don't do dailies, though |
| 22:34.39 | Syzgyn | It's mangling achievement links |
| 22:34.43 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: well, thats your problem :) |
| 22:34.45 | Dashkal | meh, why couldn't blizzard make glyphs white/green or green/blue to split major and minor? Color on the icon isn't enough |
| 22:34.53 | erikd | i really have no reason to do dailies or run anything but raids =/ |
| 22:34.59 | Dashkal | Chatter works fine for me as well |
| 22:35.05 | Syzgyn | What version? |
| 22:35.05 | kontroll | Ugh, I am such a noob. Tried to anchor a frame according to unitname instead of frame name. -_- |
| 22:35.13 | MiximUmz | this is confusing now |
| 22:35.23 | Dashkal | Syzgyn: sorry, dunno offhand. I don't have my install in front of me |
| 22:35.30 | Syzgyn | :S |
| 22:35.52 | Dashkal | MiximUmz: Try chatter or prat, and turn off everything you don't want to use. Either should work for you, just be sure you have the latest version. |
| 22:36.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: try grabbing the latest off wowace? i think thats what im u sing, unless it's been updated in the last 4 hours |
| 22:36.10 | Dashkal | If one gives trouble, use the other. The feature sets are pretty comparable |
| 22:36.29 | Syzgyn | NightHawkTheSane: I did, it was throwing errors, something with GetFont |
| 22:36.33 | Syzgyn | er, SetFont |
| 22:37.00 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Syzgyn |
| 22:37.00 | purl | Syzgyn: FAIL! |
| 22:37.03 | Syzgyn | Nm |
| 22:37.04 | Syzgyn | Hm |
| 22:37.21 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 22:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i havnt gotten any errors like that |
| 22:37.58 | Dashkal | What I really want is that very yummy thorns minor glyph. +50mins when cast on self. |
| 22:38.00 | Syzgyn | Somehow I managed to download an olllld version |
| 22:38.17 | Dashkal | lol, nice. |
| 22:39.53 | ccox | "under extreme load" -- my vote for understatement of the day |
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| 22:40.48 | cladhaire | whats the fastest way to get to Dustwallow from IF now.. does Menethil have a boat still? |
| 22:41.09 | Syzgyn | Yes |
| 22:41.11 | Dashkal | cladhaire: yes. Menethil <->Theramore works |
| 22:41.15 | cladhaire | k thanks :P |
| 22:41.37 | cladhaire | trying to get my jenkins title before i go to bed |
| 22:41.42 | erikd | wowi's super graphical landing page is killing my rdp =/ |
| 22:41.43 | cladhaire | probably not the smartest :P |
| 22:42.29 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: imo, get a group, makes it easier :) |
| 22:42.51 | Dashkal | We took about 7 of us in there last night and just AoEd them down. Instant title |
| 22:43.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 22:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | im wondering if fire nova totem would a) do enough damage to kill them, b) count the kills for me. >.> |
| 22:43.39 | Dashkal | So glad I finally have a better title than 'Private' :p |
| 22:43.53 | cladhaire | heh |
| 22:43.56 | cladhaire | I have no title now |
| 22:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i like my hand of a'dal, personally. |
| 22:43.58 | cladhaire | this char was post pvp |
| 22:43.59 | ajmitch | fire nova totem was doing some interesting ranged pulling in UBRS last night |
| 22:44.14 | Dashkal | Cool as it is to have that proof that Savrine dates back to vanilla. First rank of PvP isn't exactly special |
| 22:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ajmitch: fire nova? or searing? |
| 22:44.32 | ajmitch | NightHawkTheSane: fire nova, it was tested a couple of times |
| 22:44.43 | [dRaCo] | NightHawkTheSane: tried the fire elemental? pet kills should count |
| 22:45.05 | NightHawkTheSane | [dRaCo]: ooh, good call, probably more durable than fire nova too ;) |
| 22:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ajmitch: huh, interesting |
| 22:45.27 | Dashkal | NightHawkTheSane: That one would have been nice as well, but wasn't really an option for me. My guild raids too early |
| 22:45.29 | ajmitch | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, we were wondering where these extra mobs were coming from for awhile |
| 22:46.11 | Syzgyn | When I did Leeroy, my thunderclap did 22k damage at once :P |
| 22:46.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ajmitch: was it just hitting vertically or something? |
| 22:46.29 | ajmitch | nope, just having a rather large range, as far as I saw |
| 22:46.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, actualy, you need minimum of 4 people to do that, don't you? just to get past the fire dude |
| 22:46.46 | Syzgyn | 3 |
| 22:47.06 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, close. :P i remmeber thats why i couldn't solo my ony attunement on my druid |
| 22:47.15 | Syzgyn | heh |
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| 22:52.21 | bleeter | heh, the epic roflcopter no longer takes the standard roflcopter as a mat |
| 22:53.42 | Cairenn | oh lord, don't tell my mom that, she just made hers last week |
| 22:53.56 | Thunder_Child | yes Cairenn, because that was really a worry |
| 22:54.04 | Cairenn | :p |
| 22:54.38 | bleeter | Cairenn: dunno, your mom and I talk all the time. what's it worth to you? :P |
| 22:54.45 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 22:55.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ... there's a REALLY good your mom joke in here somewhere. |
| 22:55.00 | foxlit | I wonder why wowi returns HTTP 500 for load errors |
| 22:55.11 | Cairenn | because we're slammed? |
| 22:55.23 | foxlit | Yeah, but 500. |
| 22:55.27 | Wobin | That's what -she- said! |
| 22:55.28 | foxlit | wru, 503? |
| 22:55.30 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, if you and Cairenn's mom actually talked Cairenn would have been disowned by now |
| 22:55.41 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:55.46 | Lopeppeppy | I'd always take Cairenn in. |
| 22:55.49 | foxlit | I mean, it's practically made for the occasion - "The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server." |
| 22:55.58 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: it's not me and her mom *talking* that she should be worried about |
| 22:56.05 | Cairenn | ! |
| 22:56.14 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [bleeter!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
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| 22:56.22 | Pytlask | lawl |
| 22:56.28 | Thunder_Child | wow...here was the line | and here is where you crossed it X |
| 22:56.34 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [bleeter!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
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| 22:56.46 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 22:57.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah.. thats why I didn't MAKE said your mom joke. |
| 22:57.22 | Cairenn | oh, so you thought it though, did you? |
| 22:57.25 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [NightHawkTheSane!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
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| 22:57.28 | Lopeppeppy | Getting your arse kicked by Cairenn is legendary. Do not invite.... |
| 22:57.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ... I didn't say that :P |
| 22:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, there you go, opening your mouth. |
| 22:57.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I -- er |
| 22:57.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:58.06 | Thunder_Child | wow, suddenly the thought of bleeter as Cairenn's dad was....disturbing |
| 22:58.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 0_0 |
| 22:58.30 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 22:58.33 | Pytlask | suddenly? Because a couple of minutes ago it wasn't? |
| 22:58.37 | Adys | you didnt need to say that |
| 22:58.50 | Thunder_Child | a couple of minutes ago it had never even entered my mind |
| 22:59.20 | Adys | So what kind of disturbing thoughts were you having a coup |
| 22:59.29 | Adys | le of mins ago. |
| 22:59.34 | ccox | it's disturbing now matter when you think about it |
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| 22:59.44 | bleeter | waaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 22:59.47 | *** part/#wowuidev bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 22:59.50 | Syzgyn | hahaha |
| 22:59.51 | Cairenn | hahahhaa |
| 22:59.57 | Thunder_Child | Adys, well i am watching MacGyver so none |
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| 23:00.23 | Cairenn | mmmmm, Richard Dean Anderson .... |
| 23:00.23 | Adys | hot SAPK on SAPK action. |
| 23:01.07 | Adys | [01:59:21] <@Cairenn> mmmmm, Richard Dean Anderson .... |
| 23:01.07 | Adys | [01:59:55] * Cairenn is now known as Cairenn|food |
| 23:01.09 | Adys | holy sht. |
| 23:01.10 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. If a quest gives you, say, 500 UC rep, but you're already at 999/1000 exalted with UC, do you still get spillover for other facations? |
| 23:01.26 | Adys | aye NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:01.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: what, RDA makes a girl hungry, i'm su re.. |
| 23:01.46 | Thunder_Child | Adys, she only likes to eat the best |
| 23:02.11 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, okay, this conversation just became about as disturbing as bleeter being Cairenn's father. |
| 23:02.18 | Pytlask | UI Party on top of the huge mushroom near Telredor, Zangarmarsh on Northrend. gogogo! |
| 23:02.34 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 23:04.02 | Pytlask | Awww, now its raining :( The party is ruined |
| 23:04.58 | kontroll | Anyone care to enlighten me why hhp:SetFont("Interface\\AddOns\\oUF_meck\\font\\Tw_Cen_MT_Bold.TTF", 11, "OUTLINE") isn't working? |
| 23:05.35 | kontroll | Font is in the right place, game has been restarted, afaik no error is thrown. oUF simply won't load. |
| 23:10.37 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 23:11.59 | *** join/#wowuidev netcurse (n=hthieblo@81-67-28-118.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 23:12.53 | Cidan | what's the UID for partypets? |
| 23:13.02 | Cidan | it's not partypet anymore, it looks like, D= |
| 23:13.22 | alestane | partypet1, partypet2, etc., last I knew. |
| 23:13.25 | Cidan | huh |
| 23:13.29 | Cidan | then I wonder... |
| 23:14.03 | cladhaire | there are some issues with pet resolution |
| 23:14.12 | cladhaire | didn't think it was happening with partypets too =( |
| 23:14.18 | cladhaire | where it'd show the player's name instead of the pets |
| 23:14.38 | kontroll | Ugh... the font crap I tried earlier works on other frames. |
| 23:14.39 | *** join/#wowuidev bleeter (n=bleeter@guifications/developer/bleeter) |
| 23:14.43 | bleeter | wwaaaa moar |
| 23:16.21 | Cairenn | you're safe to come back now, I've got food |
| 23:16.26 | Thunder_Child | KB! KB! KB! |
| 23:16.28 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 23:17.15 | Lopeppeppy | Food makes for happier peoples. |
| 23:18.22 | bleeter | NO MOAR COFFEEE |
| 23:18.35 | ccox | Administratrix and low blood sugar - you just know someone is going to get kicked |
| 23:19.46 | Cairenn | ccox: no, still takes pleading nicely, for that ;) |
| 23:20.05 | Cidan | I swear to God, this 3.0 update is bugged, there has to be some sort of huge bug in the client. |
| 23:20.07 | Pytlask | Cidan: are you in targetting range of the party/pet? |
| 23:20.20 | kontroll | http://loot.dlxmedia.net/moo.png << Works, but shifting the comment to the line above does not work. Halp! :( |
| 23:20.43 | Cidan | Every 30 seconds my game damn near locks up, even with no addons, and now I'm sitting in the middle of stormwind, and I'm taking damage, like if I'm being hit, with no one attacking me. |
| 23:20.55 | Pytlask | o.O |
| 23:20.59 | Cairenn | O.o |
| 23:21.05 | Pytlask | what does your combat log say? |
| 23:21.12 | Cidan | Nothing |
| 23:21.19 | Cidan | But I'm doing the animation of being hit |
| 23:21.20 | Pytlask | its not recording the damage at all? |
| 23:21.22 | Cidan | and grunting |
| 23:21.24 | Cidan | nope |
| 23:21.29 | Pytlask | are you actually taking damage? |
| 23:21.36 | Cidan | No, that's the odd part, it's all graphical |
| 23:21.52 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Cidan |
| 23:21.53 | purl | Cidan: FAIL! |
| 23:21.55 | Cidan | Combat text is showing damage, I'm dodging/getting hit |
| 23:22.03 | Cidan | but HP isn't actually being taken away |
| 23:22.08 | ccox | another monster under the floor? |
| 23:22.17 | Cidan | But I'm not taking damage. |
| 23:22.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 23:25.00 | ccox | Cidan - it's like fighting a mob stuck in a wall, tree, etc. |
| 23:27.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 23:30.16 | [dRaCo] | anyone using teksLoot? |
| 23:30.39 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 23:30.39 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 23:30.59 | Hjalte | [dRaCo]: Yep. |
| 23:31.00 | ccox | hey MP escaped the hurricane! |
| 23:31.01 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b *!*@200.222.46.46] by Cairenn |
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| 23:31.02 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Legorol] by ChanServ |
| 23:31.12 | Sixen | *sigh*... Anyone know of a good program to get files that were deleted? |
| 23:31.29 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b *!*@200.222.46.46] by Shirik |
| 23:31.31 | Shirik | oopss |
| 23:31.32 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b *!*@200.222.46.46] by Shirik |
| 23:31.35 | Shirik | you already got it |
| 23:31.37 | Cairenn | :p |
| 23:31.42 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [-b floxinz!*@*] by Shirik |
| 23:32.46 | MentalPower | :) |
| 23:32.46 | Esine | Message to 51 sub rogues: How do you handle Shadow Dance and action bars? |
| 23:32.53 | Esine | is there an addon? do you use a macro? |
| 23:33.48 | cladhaire | so I have like 150 green/blue/epic items |
| 23:33.51 | cladhaire | i've never sold anything |
| 23:34.02 | cladhaire | should i sell, or take up enchanting? |
| 23:34.05 | Esine | that's.. many |
| 23:34.16 | Esine | where do you keep all that stuff? |
| 23:34.19 | Gngsk | Esine, you can do /cast [stealth] ambush; backstab |
| 23:34.35 | Esine | Gnarfoz, hm yes true.. and same for kidney shot <-> cheap shot |
| 23:34.47 | Lopeppeppy | Sell, cladhaire, it will be a while before your enchanting is high enough to DE blues/epics. |
| 23:34.49 | Gnarfoz | hu? |
| 23:34.57 | cladhaire | yeah i figured as much |
| 23:35.01 | cladhaire | i have lots of selling to do then |
| 23:35.02 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:35.04 | Gngsk | Gnarfoz, she meant me :P |
| 23:35.06 | cladhaire | i'll hold off until tomorrow |
| 23:35.08 | Esine | oops, Gngsk! |
| 23:35.09 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: 150 outlands level items? |
| 23:35.12 | Gngsk | or, he |
| 23:35.13 | Esine | she? he :X |
| 23:35.14 | Gngsk | heh |
| 23:35.16 | cladhaire | NightHawkTheSane: yeah |
| 23:35.28 | cladhaire | all soulbound |
| 23:35.32 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: you need 275 enchanting to de any of them anyway, so.. unless you particularly want to be an enchanter, its probably not worth it |
| 23:35.39 | cladhaire | yeah thats what I figured. |
| 23:35.40 | cladhaire | :P |
| 23:35.50 | Shirik | Should Cairenn get some sleep? (FYI she has a fever so if you say !no I'll kill you) (vote with !yes or !no) |
| 23:35.56 | cladhaire | !yes |
| 23:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn should do what she feels like |
| 23:36.10 | ccox | !yes |
| 23:36.12 | Cairenn | shush, I had a nap |
| 23:36.16 | mikma | !yes |
| 23:36.22 | Shirik | result: Should Cairenn get some sleep? (FYI she has a fever so if you say !no I'll kill you) (yes: 3 - no: 0) |
| 23:36.23 | Shirik | voted: cladhaire (y) ccox (y) mikma (y) |
| 23:36.24 | Shirik | ok 100% yes |
| 23:36.25 | Shirik | good enough |
| 23:36.39 | cladhaire | now off wit chu! |
| 23:36.46 | Cairenn | I had a nap :p |
| 23:36.50 | clad|sleep | I'll be waiting in your dreams ;-) |
| 23:36.56 | Shirik | haha |
| 23:37.01 | Cairenn | oh, well, since I've got that offer ..... |
| 23:37.25 | clad|sleep | night all! |
| 23:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | night clad, Cairenn :P |
| 23:37.42 | Cairenn | sweet dreams clad|sleep :) |
| 23:37.46 | clad|sleep | you too! |
| 23:37.53 | clad|sleep | *grin* |
| 23:38.04 | NightHawkTheSane | wee, exalted UC. |
| 23:38.48 | Pytlask | grats |
| 23:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | just silvermoon left. |
| 23:39.25 | Pytlask | o.O where do you get all that rep? Runecloth? |
| 23:39.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hell no. |
| 23:39.34 | kd3 | low-level quests <3 |
| 23:39.34 | NightHawkTheSane | quests ;) |
| 23:39.41 | Pytlask | oh, right, they raised the rep |
| 23:39.44 | Pytlask | *grumble* |
| 23:39.55 | Pytlask | my two characters were leveled before the raise and I completed most quests :/ |
| 23:40.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Doing all the Mulgore, Tirisfall, and Silverpine quests pushed me from like 7-8k into revered, to exalted with UC |
| 23:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat080101.html |
| 23:40.51 | kd3 | lmao |
| 23:40.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, nice |
| 23:42.30 | NightHawkTheSane | and, the SFK achievement, woo |
| 23:43.21 | kd3 | bah. I need more caffeine |
| 23:43.28 | kd3 | can't solo the emperor in BRD |
| 23:44.56 | *** join/#wowuidev AbsoRayne (n=chatzill@pool-71-251-132-21.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:45.17 | AbsoRayne | oh hai |
| 23:45.20 | Lopeppeppy | I've never successfully killed that bastic. |
| 23:45.23 | Lopeppeppy | *bastich |
| 23:45.28 | NightHawkTheSane | he's not.. hard.. |
| 23:45.29 | Lopeppeppy | Hai2U, AbsoRayne. |
| 23:45.42 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Howre you good sir? |
| 23:45.54 | |Jelly| | s/sir/ma'am/ |
| 23:46.03 | Lopeppeppy | Grk. |
| 23:46.05 | Lopeppeppy | ^^ |
| 23:46.07 | kd3 | nah, I just can't burst him down before he gets his magic-immune cast off |
| 23:46.09 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 23:46.34 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: What are you using as DoT Timer. |
| 23:46.46 | Adys | mage sham in 2v2 went from mediocre to nearly OP in arenas |
| 23:46.48 | Adys | holy hell wow |
| 23:47.10 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: Sorry :< |
| 23:47.12 | |Jelly| | I'm using a DoT Timer? |
| 23:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
| 23:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | The Atumunal Ale |
| 23:47.21 | Codex| | what mailbox looting mod is everyone using now |
| 23:47.21 | AbsoRayne | I thought you were? |
| 23:47.27 | AbsoRayne | I havent seen your UI in months. |
| 23:47.43 | Lopeppeppy | All good, AbsoRayne. This is the interwebs, there aren't any females, I know this. |
| 23:47.43 | mikma | Codex|: default |
| 23:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It's bugged and not taking charges |
| 23:47.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone who is in the Brew of the Month club |
| 23:47.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Pick some up |
| 23:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | You have infinite beer |
| 23:47.58 | Codex| | mikma: what about to get a billion ah items out of the mailbox |
| 23:48.04 | |Jelly| | AbsoRayne: http://i38.tinypic.com/33pd56h.jpg <-- |
| 23:48.05 | AbsoRayne | Lopeppeppy: :P |
| 23:48.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: you mean one lasts forever? |
| 23:48.07 | NightHawkTheSane | zomg.. |
| 23:48.22 | NightHawkTheSane | also, t hanks for reminding me to drink this months beer on my characters |
| 23:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: I mean i bought six |
| 23:48.31 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: I now have 157 empty bottles |
| 23:48.37 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: and six regular bottles still |
| 23:48.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: now, that's MY kind of beer. |
| 23:48.42 | AbsoRayne | ah ok, youre just PitBulls frames |
| 23:48.48 | AbsoRayne | I forgot how good your UI looked |
| 23:48.55 | |Jelly| | It's Caith |
| 23:49.05 | |Jelly| | I just ... fixed ... it for 3.0 :P |
| 23:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | Fixt. |
| 23:49.56 | AbsoRayne | I just pushed a 100% working version of my UI out...it feels so incomplete without ClassTimer though :/ |
| 23:51.25 | Lonny` | I'm trying to register the SavedVariables using 'addonName:RegisterDB' and I'm getting the following errors AceDB-2.0: 'bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)'; FuBarPlugin-2.0: 'attempt to index field 'profile' (a nil value)' any ideas ? |
| 23:51.36 | |Jelly| | I wish BugSack showed on FuBar. :| |
| 23:51.49 | Kirov | I wish BugSack showed... at all |
| 23:51.55 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: Broker2Fubar? |
| 23:52.35 | |Jelly| | eh? |
| 23:53.10 | NightHawkTheSane | |Jelly|: the latest BugSack is an LDB plugin, the Broker2Fubar addon should allow LDB plugins to show up in fubar |
| 23:54.04 | Kirov | Is it just me, or does it seem like there are more issues in the 3.0 patch caused by political fights in the Ace community than in the patch itself. |
| 23:54.57 | Kirov | I'm seeing a lot of Ace addons uploaded to curse that are very broken, but the response from the authors seems to be "not my bug, it's one of the libs I use." |
| 23:55.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think thats necessarily the result of a political fight. |
| 23:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | more like an author just avoiding responsibility |
| 23:55.47 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Nothings really changed http://i37.tinypic.com/vo61z9.png |
| 23:56.22 | |Jelly| | a FREALIN guard, eh? |
| 23:56.57 | Kirov | what about the whole broker vs. ace3 vs Rock |
| 23:57.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say that wasn't :p |
| 23:57.28 | Kirov | Ace3 == ace die hards |
| 23:57.33 | Kirov | Rock == ckk |
| 23:57.43 | Kirov | broker == everyone else |
| 23:57.51 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, thats not even true |
| 23:58.16 | NightHawkTheSane | If anything, it'd be LDB vs FuBar |
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| 23:58.30 | |Jelly| | People with corehounds as pets that make the ground shake need to die |
| 23:58.38 | NightHawkTheSane | but there's a pretty solid point to be made that the LDB style is probably a smarter implementation than FuBar |
| 23:58.52 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Agreed. |
| 23:59.45 | Shirik|zZz | nevcairiel: It's been corrected |
| 23:59.55 | Shirik|zZz | I'm not quite sure why that netsplit triggered it because it was detected correctly |
