| 00:00.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm debating an authenticator, mostly to take apart and see if I could cut the form factor by a ton and mount it somewhere |
| 00:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | If I can then I'd consider using it, haha |
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| 00:01.11 | Adys | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=14557 |
| 00:01.15 | Adys | does this still even exist? |
| 00:01.20 | Adys | (as in does it still drop) ? |
| 00:01.41 | Thrae | !i 14557 |
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| 00:02.10 | Neuro_Medivh | I would assume so, in AQ |
| 00:02.12 | NeoTron | ah |
| 00:02.23 | NeoTron | the most useless epic item ever created |
| 00:02.48 | Adys | in AQ? |
| 00:02.48 | Neuro_Medivh | just, no one does AQ anymore |
| 00:02.57 | Adys | thought this was a world drop |
| 00:02.59 | Adys | (its a boe) |
| 00:03.04 | End | I don't know about that...you can DE it ;-p |
| 00:03.34 | NeoTron | it's a world drop boe |
| 00:03.51 | Thrae | If the Armory doesn't say where it drops, it's most likely a World Drop |
| 00:03.51 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, yeah, I was thinking about some other pos... but yes, I would assume it still drops in places like UBRS |
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| 00:04.12 | Adys | the tentacle trinket? |
| 00:04.30 | Thrae | Actually, this used to be the ultimate trinket for flag carriers in WSG. The reason is that it had a bug where it would disconnect players who attacked someone wearing it. |
| 00:04.31 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm, now I'm reading that they removed it |
| 00:04.32 | Adys | or the meteor one |
| 00:04.33 | Thrae | So you would see the flag carrier going through with the flag and everyone would focus fire him. Then all of a sudden those attackers would start disconnecting. |
| 00:04.47 | Adys | lol Thrae |
| 00:04.55 | Adys | that might be the reason why |
| 00:04.58 | AbsoRayne | YAY NEW HOUSE! |
| 00:04.59 | Corrodias | that should be a feature |
| 00:05.03 | Thrae | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=14557 |
| 00:05.04 | Corrodias | 1% chance of attacker being disconnected |
| 00:05.20 | Thrae | 1% chance of attacker re-rolling as a Prot. Warrior |
| 00:05.43 | Tentacled | make it resto warrior. |
| 00:06.01 | Adys | that would be pretty badass in raids |
| 00:06.02 | Thrae | You mean a Paladin that doesn't suck at healing? |
| 00:06.09 | Adys | "Kil'Jaeden has gone offline" |
| 00:06.30 | Thrae | Adys: But you can't loot someone that's offline! |
| 00:06.39 | Corrodias | thwarted. |
| 00:06.44 | Adys | Im sure you could petition gms and such |
| 00:06.58 | Thrae | "Help, our NPC DC'd, can you log him back in?" |
| 00:07.03 | Corrodias | sorry, kil'jaeden is on Time Warner and is having trouble staying on |
| 00:07.49 | Thrae | "BLARGH I SHALL KILL YOU" "AHHH WAIT I'M HAVING A LAG STORM GIMMIE A SEC" |
| 00:08.17 | Adys | Too soon, you have connected me too soon |
| 00:08.17 | Thrae | Kazak: "My power growwwwwssdssddadqesssswwwww" |
| 00:09.07 | Adys | haha |
| 00:09.38 | Thrae | Kazak: "Goddamit, I can't see my action bars anymore. How do I get them back? I'm using Khaos, of course." |
| 00:10.14 | Thrae | Arthas: "That's because I upgraded the monster interface. You need an upgraded Khaos." |
| 00:10.28 | Adys | [1. General] [Baron Rivendare]: How do i mount |
| 00:11.17 | Thrae | Baron Rivendare whispers to you, "Give it back! That was my last one! I need to run allll the way over to Northrend now and I need the speed boost." |
| 00:13.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ........... |
| 00:14.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a guildie who just got trojan'd... while using firefox |
| 00:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a pretty impressive amount of fail |
| 00:14.24 | Osagasu | He'd have had to try, there. |
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| 00:14.31 | End | I blame flash, since its a convienent scapegoat |
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| 00:15.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I responded, "Then you did something [i]terribly[/i] wrong." |
| 00:15.19 | Osagasu | I'm gonns hate updating my mods come 3.0... |
| 00:15.23 | Osagasu | **gonna |
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| 00:26.25 | Corrodias | that reminds me |
| 00:26.50 | Corrodias | when i took my 2-month vacation, it was right when 2.0 came out. i was A) waiting for addons to catch up and B) waiting for BC to come out, while i C) caught up on other games in my queue |
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| 00:39.12 | Dewin | Osagasu: I'm using the PTR to test out my updated addons to reduce the pain. |
| 00:39.16 | Dewin | and I know old topic is old |
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| 00:40.04 | NeoTron | 3.0 will be the beginning of a new interface |
| 00:40.18 | NeoTron | and likely when I try to rework my action bars to fix the flaws I can't change while raiding |
| 00:40.30 | NeoTron | because changing key bindings, even bad ones, of used spells is bad :P |
| 00:42.50 | WobWork | has 3.0 got the downranking removal? |
| 00:43.44 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 00:45.04 | Thunder_Child | here i am watching macgyver going "huh...this woman looks familiar" then it hits me, it's the 2nd in command on DS9 |
| 00:45.33 | alestane | Nana Visitor? |
| 00:45.57 | NeoTron | I love the episode when he makes hand grenades from pine cones |
| 00:46.00 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 00:46.18 | NeoTron | or when he uses two candlesticks connected to a wall outlet to shock someone's heart into action |
| 00:46.45 | alestane | Are they at least electric candles? |
| 00:47.24 | NeoTron | normal metal, perhaps silver |
| 00:47.40 | Thunder_Child | sticks alestane |
| 00:48.06 | NeoTron | it was a very long time ago, the details escape me |
| 00:48.13 | alestane | "PRIDE fits the Professor to a tee. Anyone who thinks he can make a radio out of a coconut and some string has got to be pretty damned cocky. The character of the professor was later repurposed and given his own show, called 'MacGyver'." |
| 00:48.51 | NeoTron | wikipedia to the rescue: "He later uses two candlestick holders, a floor mat, and an electrical power cord as a makeshift defibrillator to revive a fallen comrade." |
| 00:48.54 | Thunder_Child | from giligans island? |
| 00:49.08 | Kaj|Sleep | Can anyone recommend a program to use when coding for WoW? AddOn Studio is only good for the look (if even that since you can't change the art).. |
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| 00:50.28 | Syzgyn | Kajas: Any text editor you're comfortable with |
| 00:52.57 | WobWork | http://www.threepanelsoul.com/ |
| 00:54.11 | kd3 | the hell? fark: [Hero] News: Estonians arrested for smuggling vodak. Fark.com: Through a mile-long underwater pipe |
| 00:55.32 | Thunder_Child | vodka or vodak? |
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| 01:03.11 | Legorol | evening folks |
| 01:03.23 | Legorol | I see that US sites have started accepting pre-orders for the CE of WotLK |
| 01:08.14 | Thunder_Child | isnt there only one? |
| 01:08.25 | Lopeppeppy | CE and regular. |
| 01:08.42 | Thunder_Child | only one place that sels the CE |
| 01:08.44 | Thunder_Child | sells* |
| 01:08.59 | Lopeppeppy | No, I think they all do. I got mine reserved through Amazon |
| 01:09.46 | Thunder_Child | ah, so it does |
| 01:10.04 | Thunder_Child | the other day some people were saying it was only EBgames |
| 01:10.06 | Thunder_Child | or whatnot |
| 01:10.12 | Lopeppeppy | Bah, nope |
| 01:10.51 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.48 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: I read that as "I got nine reserved through Amazon" |
| 01:11.59 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah-hope. |
| 01:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | *nope |
| 01:12.29 | Neuro_Medivh | At least amazon was smart enough to restrict to 1-per |
| 01:12.44 | Neuro_Medivh | though, in multi-player households that might annoy some people |
| 01:12.45 | Jamash | Shadowform is screwing up my nice shiny addon |
| 01:12.55 | Neuro_Medivh | why so? |
| 01:13.31 | Jamash | it makes the button go dark, then when I re-use the buttons they stay dark. I'm sure it's not hard to fix, but I thought I had it ready to ship |
| 01:14.00 | cbreak | I see no benefit of a CE. |
| 01:14.14 | Neuro_Medivh | frostwyrm pet! |
| 01:14.16 | Lopeppeppy | Just extra sparkles, cbreak |
| 01:14.19 | Jamash | depends on whether you want the art book and the pet |
| 01:14.48 | cbreak | if you wait sufficiently long you can buy the book separately :) |
| 01:14.54 | Neuro_Medivh | but not the pet |
| 01:15.00 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:15.05 | Wobin | removal of onyxia attunement? |
| 01:15.06 | Neuro_Medivh | and "waiting" isn't in some people's vocabulary |
| 01:15.07 | Wobin | bleh |
| 01:16.38 | Neuro_Medivh | not sure why it's a big deal... Onyxia quest was always a pain in the ass |
| 01:18.01 | kd3 | I'm annoyed because the storyline behind it is now off into the abyss |
| 01:18.03 | Legorol | Wobin: removal? where/how/what/when? |
| 01:18.15 | Legorol | kd3: presumably the questline would still be there |
| 01:18.25 | kd3 | except it isn't |
| 01:18.28 | Lopeppeppy | kd3: Why not, there are so many stories out in limbo. *sigh* |
| 01:18.28 | kd3 | they pulled the whole thing |
| 01:18.29 | Legorol | :O |
| 01:18.32 | Legorol | og |
| 01:18.33 | Lopeppeppy | Green dragons. |
| 01:18.33 | Legorol | omg |
| 01:18.35 | Wobin | It was a pain in the arse, but it was an entertaining pain in the arse |
| 01:18.40 | Legorol | is that on PTR? or beta? or both |
| 01:18.44 | kd3 | both |
| 01:18.51 | Jamash | I always felt bad about the Test of SKulls |
| 01:18.54 | Legorol | It's more than just a questline.. it's the culmination of a story arch starting at level 1 |
| 01:18.55 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9679893069&pageNo=1&sid=2000#6 |
| 01:19.09 | Wobin | yeah |
| 01:19.16 | Wobin | it's a fantastic storyline |
| 01:19.29 | Legorol | I saw a brilliant post once that summarised the whole storyline, from level 1 to killing Onyxia, in a single paragraph, but included almost every quest. |
| 01:19.47 | Legorol | It was a single sentence without punctuation, and it was a long one :) but somehow it made sense when you read it. |
| 01:19.52 | Wobin | Onxyia's Lair no longer has a requirement for entry. This should be going live in the next build. The quests for attunement are going away. |
| 01:20.16 | Legorol | Why did they have to remove the quests :( |
| 01:20.24 | Legorol | Even though they left the ones for TK/SSC/MH/BT etc. |
| 01:20.32 | alestane | Because the turn-in points aren't there. |
| 01:20.35 | Wobin | I fondly recall the efforts made to mountjump up to hallah |
| 01:20.42 | kd3 | <3 |
| 01:20.56 | kd3 | one of my favorite walljump 'splots |
| 01:20.58 | Legorol | alestane: could you be a bit more specific? |
| 01:21.06 | kd3 | sure beats killing yourself 4 times trying to run through the cave |
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| 01:21.09 | Legorol | Do you mean that Morgan's vigil and the NPCs there are gone? or BRD? or Windsor etc.? |
| 01:21.18 | kd3 | windsor's there, just sullen |
| 01:21.21 | Wobin | Fordragon's gone |
| 01:21.23 | alestane | They're not ditching the quests just because they want to remove the Onyxia attunement, they want to advance the storyline and the changes aren't compatible with the quest line in its current form. |
| 01:21.23 | kd3 | the questgiver in steppes doesn't have it |
| 01:21.54 | Legorol | alestane: ah ok, that makes me feel a bit better |
| 01:22.00 | kd3 | the designer said in the quest forums they plan to readd it via the phasing system, but they can't get it in for ship |
| 01:22.01 | alestane | Onyxia has been unmasked, so Katrana Prestor is gone from Stormwind. Supposedly, the king of Stormwind has gotten free from the Defias and is back. |
| 01:22.23 | Legorol | ok now that's a positive take on things |
| 01:22.23 | alestane | Which means Jailbreak doesn't make sense anymore. |
| 01:22.34 | Legorol | Ok I don't mind worldaltering changes like that if it does have a point. |
| 01:22.51 | Lopeppeppy | If she's not in Stormwind, there is no quest line anymore, because it ends with her. |
| 01:22.52 | Wobin | phasing it would be cool though |
| 01:23.00 | Lopeppeppy | So no one will ever go to Blackrock again. |
| 01:23.06 | Legorol | well, a lot of things don't make any more sense there, what about the whole Van Cleef arch? |
| 01:23.09 | Legorol | *arc |
| 01:23.11 | Wobin | it would give players the feeling that they're actually part of the history |
| 01:23.27 | Lopeppeppy | Van Cleef was supposed to be developed more, more of the Defias quest line stuff. |
| 01:23.27 | Legorol | Wobin: what's this phasing you speak of |
| 01:23.28 | alestane | And they have said they want to try and work up some of the quest content into an arrangement that will make sense in the current setting, they just can't have it ready for 11/13. |
| 01:23.32 | Legorol | Some new concept I haven't heard yet? |
| 01:23.49 | Jamash | phasing is how the new death knight zones work, if you've seen them |
| 01:24.04 | Legorol | seen very little of it |
| 01:24.04 | Wobin | Legorol: They're thinking of adding it back in under the phase system, where certain players can see certain events only if flagged/not flagged for them |
| 01:24.06 | Jamash | basically it's like instancing but without instancing |
| 01:24.23 | Legorol | Wobin: that is cool |
| 01:24.28 | alestane | So, once you finish Jailbreak, You don't see Prestor any more? |
| 01:24.30 | Wobin | ie, if you've done the attunement chain for ony, Katarina wouldn't be in the throneroom |
| 01:24.31 | Legorol | Well that makes me feel a whole lot better |
| 01:24.46 | Sargeras | are you still mad at me pretty lady? |
| 01:24.48 | Wobin | alestane: yeah, cause you've finished that storyline, and it's moved on |
| 01:25.00 | Jamash | ideally that's what they'll do for onyxia, but they're not promising anything |
| 01:25.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 01:25.09 | Wobin | I'd hope they work on that though |
| 01:25.38 | alestane | What if you've finished it, and you're in the throne room when someone else does it? Do you not see the rdagon guards or something? That would be freaky. |
| 01:25.46 | Legorol | unfortunately i fear it will be alow priority thing, as it's only a quick pass-through content on your way to getting an alt to 80 |
| 01:25.48 | Wobin | You wouldn't see anything =) |
| 01:25.51 | Legorol | won't see much developer time probably :( |
| 01:26.04 | Wobin | Legorol: and that's terrible =( |
| 01:26.10 | Wobin | Legorol: The journey is half the fun |
| 01:26.21 | Legorol | indeed, but probably not for most people |
| 01:26.30 | alestane | Legorol: The biggest reason I don't automatically agree with you is that the devs are going to miss it too. |
| 01:26.54 | Jamash | it's half the fun the first time around, but the third or fifth... |
| 01:27.10 | Wobin | world building wise, it's hard to see stuff you've put a whole lot of work into thrown to the wayside |
| 01:27.17 | Wobin | and that chain is epic |
| 01:27.23 | Legorol | alestane: I agree on that, I was just talking about prioritisation |
| 01:27.34 | alestane | So I suspect that the devs themselves will be pushing to find a way to implement it. |
| 01:27.57 | Legorol | Still, it won't be a top issue and there will be limited resources for it probably |
| 01:28.07 | Legorol | That's all I'm sayig |
| 01:28.12 | Wobin | Blizzard clearly needs to hire more programmers =) |
| 01:28.19 | Wobin | chopchop =) |
| 01:28.20 | Legorol | nah those they have enough I'm sure |
| 01:28.31 | Legorol | more designers, artists, content creators etc. |
| 01:28.43 | Legorol | You forget that the majority doesn't actually program :) |
| 01:29.15 | Jamash | They should hire me |
| 01:29.20 | Jamash | I'm a programmer |
| 01:29.26 | alestane | The good thing is, if they can repurpose the infrastructure they used for the DK starting area, they might not need too many resources. But it's going to take some work. |
| 01:29.35 | Thrae | Cairenn|afk: Gahhhh |
| 01:29.44 | Cairenn | Thrae: ? |
| 01:29.44 | Legorol | alestane: indeed |
| 01:30.23 | Thrae | Cairenn: Everytime I use the "create a zip" feature for MMOUI SVNs, it only zips up the actual interface files and not their containing directory. |
| 01:30.47 | Cairenn | Dolby: ^^ |
| 01:31.00 | Thrae | Dolby: Dooooolby |
| 01:31.08 | Sargeras | Dolby: pally-D |
| 01:31.17 | Wobin | huh |
| 01:31.21 | Wobin | Surround sound |
| 01:31.23 | Wobin | Ironic =) |
| 01:31.47 | Thrae | I'll just create a normal project for right now... |
| 01:33.12 | Dolby | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=svn#faq_release |
| 01:33.12 | Dolby | This will package everything in your /trunk and push it out as a release. If you want to put your files directly in /trunk (/trunk/AddonName.toc instead of /trunk/AddonName/AddonName.toc), you can set the "wowi:dirname" svn property on the trunk directory. This will force the packager to put all the files in /trunk into a folder with the name you specified. |
| 01:33.12 | Dolby | 1. svn propset wowi:dirname "AddonName" trunk/ |
| 01:33.13 | Dolby | 2. svn commit |
| 01:33.14 | Dolby | :) |
| 01:33.33 | Cide | read: RTFM |
| 01:33.59 | Dolby | sorry took so long fingers all sticky from baby back ribs |
| 01:34.10 | Sargeras | wtf |
| 01:34.11 | Sargeras | share |
| 01:34.11 | Thrae | Dolby: I'm on War.MMOUI.com, and I have my files in trunk/AddonName |
| 01:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 01:34.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Buy an authenticator or not |
| 01:34.35 | alestane | So Stormwind will be sort of like this? http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/3/22/leaf-eyed-sons-of-bitches/ |
| 01:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, Dolby, share, go |
| 01:34.45 | Dolby | set the "wowi:dirname" svn property on the trunk directory. |
| 01:34.52 | Dolby | err |
| 01:34.53 | Dolby | wari |
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| 01:36.17 | Thrae | Dolby: So I need that regardless of if it's already in a directory inside /trunk (not just root)? |
| 01:36.37 | Dolby | i think so, cald made the zip script. 1 sec let me look at it |
| 01:36.54 | Dolby | it looks for the toc |
| 01:36.58 | Dolby | and makes that the root |
| 01:37.02 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 01:37.08 | Thrae | And Warhammer == No TOC |
| 01:37.14 | Dolby | yep |
| 01:37.20 | Dolby | gotta modify it |
| 01:37.22 | Dolby | 1sec |
| 01:37.28 | Thrae | Just change it from TOC to MOD |
| 01:37.29 | Sixen | Hai |
| 01:38.06 | Dolby | ok try it now |
| 01:38.53 | Dolby | what do you want Thunder_Child |
| 01:39.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmmm... I'm short 33 cents for an authenticator |
| 01:39.10 | Sargeras | go go pally-D |
| 01:39.14 | Sargeras | the man in action |
| 01:39.20 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Sargeras!n=Dolby@MMOI/Administrator/Dolby] by Dolby (Dolby) |
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| 01:39.26 | Wobin | Pally-D? |
| 01:39.28 | Thunder_Child | Dolby, nothing Dolby, i just felt like glaring it you |
| 01:39.36 | Sargeras | loll |
| 01:39.38 | Sargeras | long story |
| 01:39.43 | Sargeras | old old old joke |
| 01:39.51 | Sargeras | I've known Dolby going on almost 10 years now |
| 01:40.04 | Dolby | it work for you now Thrae ? |
| 01:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sorry |
| 01:40.26 | Sargeras | ! |
| 01:40.26 | Thunder_Child | s/g Dolby/g/ |
| 01:40.31 | Syzgyn | I love discovering API calls that save me alot of work |
| 01:40.50 | Thrae | Uhhh |
| 01:41.00 | Thrae | Dolby: Says its already being generated? Lemme try again |
| 01:41.09 | Thunder_Child | "Sargeras: I've known Dolby going on almost 10 years now" we feel for you |
| 01:41.20 | Thrae | Dolby: Keep getting "Sorry, a file is already being generated for this SVN." |
| 01:41.42 | Sargeras | hey I love the guy |
| 01:41.48 | Dolby | yep cause the other one wasnt canceled. go to the misc options |
| 01:41.52 | Dolby | and reset it |
| 01:42.43 | Sargeras | if I had half the php skills he does =(.. |
| 01:42.59 | Dolby | http://war.mmoui.com/forums/faq.php?faq=svn#faq_reset_generator last on the faq |
| 01:43.25 | Thunder_Child | then you would have half the php skills he dose.... |
| 01:43.25 | Thunder_Child | does* |
| 01:43.35 | Dolby | should add that to the error message |
| 01:43.58 | Thrae | Dolby: Nope, that change still doesn't pack it under the LevelBlock directory |
| 01:44.14 | Dolby | hmmm ok let me work on it then |
| 01:44.41 | Thrae | Dolby: Did you already ping cladhaire? Well, by saying his name, that pings him. |
| 01:44.51 | Ackis | if you have the beta, do you need to download the PTR? |
| 01:44.51 | Thrae | So in a sense, that question was worthless. |
| 01:45.08 | Legorol | Ackis: yes |
| 01:45.18 | Legorol | however, afaik at the moment beta players can't log into the PTR |
| 01:45.39 | Sargeras | is that like Candyman Thrae? |
| 01:46.51 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Dolby!n=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (Don't be mean :() |
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| 01:46.54 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Dolby] by ChanServ |
| 01:46.59 | Dolby | hmmm mine worked thrae. gonna look at yours 1sec |
| 01:47.12 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:47.19 | Shirik | It's ok Sargeras, I got your back |
| 01:47.20 | Wobin | http://stackoverflow.com looks pretty good |
| 01:47.49 | Thunder_Child | BADMIN!!! |
| 01:47.50 | Cairenn | no, apparently I have his back >, |
| 01:47.52 | Cairenn | >< |
| 01:49.53 | Sargeras | Cairenn |
| 01:49.56 | Sargeras | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.56 | Sargeras | rawr |
| 01:50.04 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 01:50.12 | Cairenn | but Imma kill you if you really do :p |
| 01:50.32 | Sargeras | I wont! |
| 01:50.37 | Sargeras | besides |
| 01:50.38 | Cairenn | good |
| 01:50.38 | Thunder_Child | do it |
| 01:50.42 | Sargeras | guess who gave me the idea |
| 01:50.50 | Dolby | Thrae when i generate your svn there is a subfolder "LevelBlock" |
| 01:50.52 | Thunder_Child | Sargerasm $5 if you do it |
| 01:50.52 | Cairenn | oh, I know who gave you the idea |
| 01:50.55 | Cairenn | he's dead too |
| 01:50.57 | Dolby | isnt that what you wanted? |
| 01:51.07 | Thrae | Dolby: Yeah, but it wasn't doing that for me... |
| 01:51.21 | Dolby | try once more |
| 01:51.24 | Thunder_Child | s/m/,/ |
| 01:51.28 | Thrae | OK |
| 01:51.41 | Sargeras | it aint worth $5 |
| 01:52.05 | Sargeras | hell hath no fury like a canadian's scorn |
| 01:52.06 | Sargeras | <3 |
| 01:52.21 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 01:52.25 | Thunder_Child | $15 |
| 01:52.36 | Thunder_Child | i'll brave the scorn |
| 01:52.49 | Sargeras | yeah but I have to see her at blizzcon |
| 01:52.50 | Sargeras | and |
| 01:52.51 | Thunder_Child | since there only seems to be promises and no aciton |
| 01:52.53 | Sargeras | I want a hug =( |
| 01:52.54 | Thunder_Child | action* |
| 01:53.03 | Cairenn | I'm not actually worried, I know he loves me too much to do that to me |
| 01:53.26 | Sargeras | no Cairenn hugs at blizzcon makes it an empty blizzcon |
| 01:53.38 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:53.45 | Thrae | Dolby: OK, it works now |
| 01:54.08 | Dolby | cool, must of generated it before i saved the changes last time |
| 01:54.10 | Cairenn | yup, it does, I already approved it |
| 01:54.17 | Dolby | sorry for all the trouble though |
| 01:54.38 | Dolby | appreciate your help Thrae :) |
| 01:54.47 | Cairenn | but thank you for helping debug it! ;-) |
| 01:55.34 | Thrae | Actually I uploaded it the old fashioned way while Dolby was working on it, and now I screwed it up even further haha |
| 01:56.00 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thrae |
| 01:56.01 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Thrae. I hate you because you fail. |
| 01:56.01 | Dolby | 1 sec |
| 01:56.38 | Dolby | lol you want me to delete the old svn? |
| 01:56.44 | Thrae | Now I have LevelBlock-3, the original SVN, and a new one called LevelBlock-4. I was trying to associate the SVN with the project. |
| 01:57.00 | Thrae | Well the new one, 4, has no files |
| 01:57.06 | Dolby | ok |
| 01:57.13 | Dolby | can delete the new and |
| 01:57.24 | Dolby | merge the old with your uploaded file |
| 01:57.46 | Thrae | Alright, sounds good |
| 01:58.12 | Thrae | Dolby: You may also want to remove "Does this addon work with the World of Warcraft Wrath of the Lich King Expansion?" question at the bottom of Update Addon ;) |
| 01:58.56 | Dolby | man i thought i changed all that language |
| 01:58.58 | Dolby | thanks |
| 01:59.14 | Fogger | Do I use GetPlayerBuff to find a particular buff on the player? and if so, what is the index arg? |
| 02:00.35 | Dolby | ok Thrae you should be all fixed up |
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| 02:01.07 | Thrae | Dolby: Sure thing. |
| 02:01.44 | Fogger | do I have to for loop incrementing numbers through it till it returns nil? |
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| 02:03.48 | Fogger | oh, it actually returns the index, so I just search that yeah? |
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| 02:06.45 | Fogger | index, buff index, index of the buff, what does it all mean? :P |
| 02:07.09 | Jamash | 1. get DevTools addon |
| 02:07.18 | Jamash | 2. type /dump SomeScriptHere() |
| 02:07.23 | Jamash | 3. experiment |
| 02:07.31 | Fogger | ooh, im on that! |
| 02:08.46 | Fogger | DT1.7, work in beta too? |
| 02:10.05 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10165-DevToolsLKBeta.html |
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| 02:10.10 | kd3 | yay, the brewfest setup crew is active |
| 02:11.08 | Fogger | you'd think these files would be on his personal site. |
| 02:13.17 | Sixen | So hai |
| 02:13.21 | Sixen | Oh really? |
| 02:23.45 | Shirik | rofl |
| 02:23.56 | Shirik | one of our members went afk after akama before gorefiend |
| 02:24.02 | Shirik | And he got picked for constructs |
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| 02:24.15 | Shirik | they ran all the way from akama... |
| 02:25.44 | ScytheBlade1 | At least you had time for others to get theirs down |
| 02:25.50 | Legorol | is that a good thing or bad thing? |
| 02:26.16 | Shirik | It would have been worse if he was actually there and he couldn't get them down in time |
| 02:30.46 | Shirik | why does stuff like this never happen to me :( |
| 02:30.47 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/96266 |
| 02:39.40 | steev | impressive |
| 02:39.57 | Jamash | aaaaaargh actionbuttons blargh |
| 02:40.01 | steev | i haven't discovered anything since right after they made the change to discovery |
| 02:41.13 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: we had our MT go afk after akama at the vendor npcs and he got picked for constructs and came back and said they were just standing there next to him then despawned a few seconds later |
| 02:41.40 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:41.44 | Shirik | not nice to us :( |
| 02:45.09 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 02:45.19 | Shirik | I tried to hearth with the mark of shadow |
| 02:45.23 | Shirik | I couldn't get it off in time :( |
| 02:45.35 | Yssaril | remember when the discoveries where first put in if you made something but your bag was full it would discover something 100% |
| 02:45.59 | ccox | don't tell me it's back |
| 02:46.17 | Shirik | no |
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| 02:48.37 | Arrowmaster | it was 100%? i thought it just still had a chance of discovering even though it didnt use the mats so you could just spam craft until you discovered everything |
| 02:48.48 | Iriel | Hey Shirik |
| 02:49.32 | ccox | Yssaril - so, why are you bringing that up? |
| 02:49.54 | Yssaril | Shiriks link reminded me of it :) |
| 02:50.31 | ccox | ah, ok |
| 02:52.13 | Yssaril | i think if you raid and make pots for yourself and others then your almost guranteed to get all the pots discovered i think i got all of mine after 500-600 pots |
| 02:59.17 | ccox | Yssaril - good to know |
| 03:02.26 | Syzgyn | I dunno, I make 60+ haste pots 3 times a week, and am still missing flask of fortification |
| 03:09.17 | Tem | I got fort first |
| 03:09.30 | Tem | I'm still missing relentless assault |
| 03:10.28 | ccox | heh, that was my first discovery |
| 03:10.47 | Syzgyn | Same here |
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| 03:11.43 | Yssaril | ditto got relentless first :) |
| 03:13.55 | Thunder_Child | i got fort first as well |
| 03:14.08 | Fogger | I hope they give healers a flask they can use in wotlk |
| 03:14.11 | Thunder_Child | i guess some of us just do it bass ackwards |
| 03:14.46 | Yssaril | Fogger: some sort of spellpower flask would work for healers too |
| 03:14.59 | Fogger | yeah right, I hadnt thought of that |
| 03:15.03 | Syzgyn | I certianly hope they dont add recipe drops to individual bosses at low drop rates |
| 03:15.13 | Syzgyn | Fucking frost resist and ironshield pots |
| 03:16.39 | Yssaril | yea never did get the frost one never needed it either though |
| 03:22.04 | Syzgyn | True, but I'm a profession whore, I try to get everything I can |
| 03:23.33 | Yssaril | hehe did you bother getting the cauldrons? |
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| 03:27.08 | Syzgyn | I have all for the resist pots I have |
| 03:27.12 | Syzgyn | 3/5 |
| 03:33.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://hackaday.com/2008/09/16/how-to-thermite-based-hard-drive-anti-forensic-destruction/ |
| 03:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ awesome |
| 03:36.41 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Indeed awesome |
| 03:36.50 | Shirik | I want them to send the drive to OnTrack to see if they can recover it :D |
| 03:36.53 | Shirik | Just to see what they say :D |
| 03:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | A literal molten hard drive |
| 03:37.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Several of them rather |
| 03:37.00 | Thunder_Child | wow, that is old |
| 03:37.55 | Thunder_Child | i remember discusing options like that in class 10+ years ago |
| 03:38.45 | Shirik | oh that was the shutter |
| 03:38.50 | Shirik | I thought that was the hard drive still running, lol |
| 03:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:41.24 | ScytheBlade1 | nah |
| 03:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I need me some thermite |
| 03:43.55 | Thunder_Child | so make some |
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| 03:49.18 | Shirik | !! |
| 03:49.22 | Shirik | Cairenn == Shiibot |
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| 03:51.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn's a she-bot?! |
| 03:52.20 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 03:52.23 | Shirik | they both crashed at the same time |
| 03:52.28 | Shirik | (23:47:58) - Quit: @Shiibot (n=Shiibot@83.120.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) (Remote closed the connection) |
| 03:52.28 | Shirik | (23:48:00) - Quit: @Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 03:52.31 | Shirik | I just put 2 and 2 together |
| 03:53.37 | Thunder_Child | "NightHawkTheSane: Cairenn's a she-bot?!" you can stop drooling now NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:53.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: i never actually started. robots and females seems like a really bad combination. |
| 03:54.35 | Thunder_Child | off switch? |
| 03:54.42 | Shiibot | What's that supposed to mean, NightHawkTheSane ;) |
| 03:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: like they wouldn't figure out how to override that. |
| 03:55.14 | Shirik | I dunno, I see females + robots being the cause of the matrix |
| 03:55.34 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk's going to kill me when she reads this |
| 03:55.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I just see super strong + ruthless + crazy female = very bad idea. |
| 03:55.59 | Thunder_Child | what crazy? |
| 03:56.04 | Thunder_Child | where did crazy come from? |
| 03:56.11 | Shirik | cmon nobody's more crazy than me |
| 03:56.14 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it's part of female, really. |
| 03:56.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, come on. |
| 03:56.28 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk's really going to kill you |
| 03:56.43 | Thunder_Child | Shirik, it's ok, she never delivers |
| 03:56.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yep. |
| 03:57.09 | Shirik | how do I turn this cloak off? |
| 03:57.16 | Shirik | I logged out from nickserv but it stayed there |
| 03:57.21 | Kajas | Anyone familiar with ScrollFrame and ScrollChild willing to look at a pastey sniplet? |
| 03:57.28 | ScytheBlade1 | relog without ident |
| 03:57.39 | Shirik | that's hard :( |
| 03:57.43 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 03:58.06 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, type !quote QUIT |
| 03:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | !quote QUIT |
| 03:58.19 | batbot | ScytheBlade1, quit has not said anything. |
| 03:58.22 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:58.25 | Shirik | not you batbot >< |
| 03:58.28 | Shirik | but thanks ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:58.30 | ScytheBlade1 | sure |
| 03:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, bannable offenses is awesome. "I have no idea how Susan keeps track of these things. It's like she's got a schedule set on 28 days or something." |
| 03:59.06 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:59.08 | NightHawkTheSane | !quote Shirik |
| 03:59.08 | batbot | NightHawkTheSane, shirik said: "but thanks ScytheBlade1". |
| 03:59.14 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting. |
| 03:59.28 | Shirik | the !quote is supposed to be like IRC client /quote for Shiibot >.> |
| 03:59.32 | Shirik | I was making sure only I could do it |
| 04:00.22 | ccox | !test |
| 04:00.58 | Kajas | I'm trying to get an editbox to release focus when the escape button is pressed. I have the <OnEscapePressed> code set but it will not release focus.. the pastey for it is at http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96269 if anyone could show me where I have errored, I'd be greatly appreciative. |
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| 04:01.44 | Kajas | May help to knwo that the edit box is nested in a scrollchild, nested in a scrollframe |
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| 04:25.07 | kd3 | gah, fail. I keep trying to /ach to check how many quests I've done in azuremyst on live |
| 04:25.11 | Syzgyn | Hehe |
| 04:25.41 | Syzgyn | Are they going to split the kalimdor/easter kingdoms quests up by zone? |
| 04:25.56 | kd3 | I sure hope so |
| 04:26.00 | Syzgyn | If not, its gonna suck |
| 04:26.16 | Syzgyn | Kajas: I dont see why that code isnt working |
| 04:26.52 | Syzgyn | Try putting a print statement in there or something, and see if its even triggering |
| 04:27.01 | Kajas | I can't figure it out either. I hit escape and the edit box maintains focus the only way to get back to the game screen with the text cursor is to close out of the window |
| 04:27.12 | Kajas | Tried that, it triggers |
| 04:27.21 | Syzgyn | then self isnt self in that case |
| 04:27.25 | Syzgyn | try this |
| 04:27.29 | Syzgyn | er, no |
| 04:27.45 | Syzgyn | Put the name of the frame in there |
| 04:28.09 | Kajas | ok |
| 04:29.39 | Syzgyn | oh, it is this |
| 04:29.44 | Syzgyn | self might work |
| 04:30.06 | Kajas | nope.. still says "Clearing focus from control 'Frame3MultilineEditBox1Edit'" but cursor stays there |
| 04:30.10 | Kajas | kk, changing it to 'self' |
| 04:31.08 | Kajas | no-go.. still hangs on to the focus |
| 04:31.32 | Kajas | carriage cursor stays planted firm in the edit box |
| 04:33.41 | Syzgyn | Did you check how the mail frame does it? |
| 04:34.58 | Kajas | Honestly, I understand little about that frame.. got it open and looking at it.. but it's frustrating how little I understand of it.. |
| 04:35.12 | Syzgyn | I dunno, I make all my frames in Lua now |
| 04:35.35 | Kajas | hum.. I can click on any other text imput area (such as the mail box right now) and the focus will go there without issue.. but as soon as I clear it, it defaults right back to the addon |
| 04:36.00 | Kajas | I want to find (or make) a good editor befor I do that |
| 04:36.09 | Syzgyn | I use Notepad++ |
| 04:38.37 | Kajas | heh, just did a search for "onescape" in the MailFrame.lua file in the bliz addon data folder.. no results found |
| 04:39.27 | Kajas | Nor were there any hits for "ClearFocus" in that lua |
| 04:39.42 | Syzgyn | It'd be in the lua |
| 04:39.48 | Syzgyn | Hm |
| 04:40.17 | Syzgyn | Then its in the virtual frame it was instanciated with |
| 04:40.21 | Syzgyn | the template |
| 04:40.39 | Syzgyn | er |
| 04:40.45 | Syzgyn | Or its right there in the XML |
| 04:41.43 | Kajas | looking at the xml now |
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| 04:42.18 | Kajas | heh.. it just says "this:ClearFocus();" for OnEscapePressed in the MailFrame.xml file |
| 04:42.18 | Syzgyn | Also, you mispelled autoFocus in your code |
| 04:42.26 | Syzgyn | autoFucus |
| 04:42.36 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:42.39 | Kajas | lol.. trying to make up some words |
| 04:42.45 | Kajas | Just don't ask what Fucus is... |
| 04:43.36 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.38 | Syzgyn | and it uses self, not this :P |
| 04:44.42 | Syzgyn | not a big difference though |
| 04:45.32 | Kajas | Line 777 |
| 04:45.45 | Syzgyn | hm? |
| 04:46.05 | Kajas | It's the SendMailScrollChildFrame |
| 04:46.13 | Kajas | OnEscape says "this:ClearFocus()" |
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| 04:47.01 | Syzgyn | not seeing it |
| 04:47.07 | Kajas | hmm.odd |
| 04:47.07 | Syzgyn | sec |
| 04:47.46 | Kajas | Maybe I need to redownload the extractor |
| 04:48.29 | Syzgyn | oh dur |
| 04:48.33 | Syzgyn | I'm looking atht the beta's code |
| 04:48.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i wonder if it's server lag, or me trying to install the entire texlive package at the same time that's causing me to be selling these 6 items for the last 10 minutes |
| 04:49.08 | Tem | anyone wanna heal a Drak'Tharon keep group? |
| 04:49.16 | Tem | (on northrend) |
| 04:49.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i would, but you're not horde. ;) |
| 04:49.51 | Syzgyn | Thus, he doesnt fail |
| 04:51.32 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.55 | Tem | kaboom world server |
| 04:54.48 | NightHawkTheSane | you know. whatever the writers for andromeda started smoking when they started s5, i need to get some of it, cause that's some real powerful dren. |
| 04:58.25 | End | NightHawkTheSane: wasn't that when the guy who played the captain got a lot more control over the show? |
| 04:58.35 | End | (at least...that's what I heard) |
| 04:59.20 | ccox | Nighthawk - that show just sorta dissolved... |
| 05:00.07 | NightHawkTheSane | End: not precisely. From what I read, the original producer or whatever, was fired when he refused to make the show more episodic & more featured on kevin sorbo's character. From there it sorta spiraled into crazy wierdness and became "Andromeda - The Kevin Sorbo show" |
| 05:00.17 | End | ah |
| 05:00.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: yeah, but it just got really really wierd at the end. |
| 05:00.30 | ccox | very, and NOT in a good way |
| 05:00.32 | End | well, I had stopped watching by that point anyway |
| 05:00.53 | ccox | My TiVO kept recording it, and I watched some |
| 05:01.06 | ccox | kind of like X-FIles - ignore the last season entirely |
| 05:01.06 | Neuro_Medivh | Kajas, you still trying to figure out that issue? |
| 05:01.14 | Kajas | I am |
| 05:01.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: well. Yeah, it really wasn't GOOD after about season 2. There were some plot elements that I thought were reallly interesting and had GREAT potential |
| 05:01.38 | ccox | yeah, but, um, Captain Hercules thought he could write... |
| 05:01.43 | NightHawkTheSane | But they just sorta handwaved it all away with a bunch of Deus Ex Machina |
| 05:02.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: heh, dunno if he was the one writing or not, but it sure felt like it. :p |
| 05:02.06 | ccox | (Dun Morogh is currently Brown and Blue - someone messed up) |
| 05:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | I've been going through the episodes, i'm about halfway through s5 now. It kinda makes me sad, because it started with such awesome potential. :\ |
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| 05:06.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Kajas, have you tried doing it the MailFrame.xml way, by setting the editbox as a sub-frame of Scrollchild? |
| 05:06.29 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane: That's why I won't watch "Fringe" |
| 05:06.52 | Kajas | it is, 1 sec and I'll link the pastey |
| 05:07.08 | Kajas | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96269 |
| 05:07.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: never heard of it. but i don't let things like that stop me from watching shows. At least not after they're cancelled and have a definite end point ;) |
| 05:07.21 | Kajas | ScrollFrame -> ScrollChild -> EditBox |
| 05:07.32 | NightHawkTheSane | (hence why I'm watching ALL of Andromeda, and plan to watch ALL of Sliders afterwards) |
| 05:08.09 | End | Neuro_Medivh: Fox will cancel it anyways |
| 05:08.11 | ccox | Fringe = Alias + Numb3rs - Lost |
| 05:08.17 | End | unless it's really bad |
| 05:08.29 | ccox | OMG - what did you do to deserve that torture? |
| 05:08.30 | End | then they'll keep in on the air for eleventeen billion seasons |
| 05:08.39 | Kajas | ... you know what |
| 05:08.49 | Neuro_Medivh | Kajas, look how MailFrame.xml does it though |
| 05:08.52 | Kajas | solved it a while ago and didn't even realize it, time to put it aside |
| 05:09.00 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, ok |
| 05:09.13 | Kajas | when I corrected the typo of autoFucus.. it solved it |
| 05:09.19 | Neuro_Medivh | ah |
| 05:09.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: you mean me? :) |
| 05:09.25 | ccox | fyes |
| 05:09.28 | Kajas | so apparently autoFocus was true so when escape dropped focus.. autoFocus picked it back up |
| 05:09.51 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe, I've actually seen -most- of sliders already, i like s1-4, s5 sucked but *shrug*. I just want to see it all, in the proper order. |
| 05:09.52 | Neuro_Medivh | Fringe is a J.J. Abrams show.. it's gonna be just like Lost and Alias |
| 05:10.03 | Neuro_Medivh | it'll be cool for 1-2 seasons, then devolve into suck |
| 05:10.13 | Neuro_Medivh | cause the writers have no idea where they are going |
| 05:10.18 | Neuro_Medivh | same as with X-files |
| 05:10.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Andromeda I just decided to watch because the few episodes i saw seemed vaguely interesting, and it was trivial to download on bittorrnet, so why not :)\ |
| 05:10.43 | ccox | Neuro - XFiles lasted longer than that |
| 05:10.57 | ccox | Neuro - but "Sliders"? That went downhill quick! |
| 05:11.20 | End | when was Sliders? I vaguely remember watching that as a kid |
| 05:11.26 | Neuro_Medivh | ccox: Yes, but the head writer (Chris Carter) admitted later that they really had no idea where the show was going, they just pulled Bait-and-switch as long as they could |
| 05:11.28 | End | oh, 95 |
| 05:11.42 | ccox | Neuro - yeah, but it worked |
| 05:12.00 | End | wow, I didn't know sliders went on for 5 seasons though |
| 05:12.13 | ccox | trust me, you didn't want to know |
| 05:12.23 | NightHawkTheSane | End: yeah. again, s5 was -terribad- |
| 05:12.41 | Neuro_Medivh | shrug, I disagree... it worked for the TV studio, sure... but as a viewer, I felt completely let down by X-Files, because I realized they had no real plot, it was just bait-n-switch over and over |
| 05:12.42 | End | ...is that some cadinal rule or something? s5 has to suck? |
| 05:12.46 | End | or maybe it's just the last seasons |
| 05:12.52 | NightHawkTheSane | End: i dunno, seems like it. |
| 05:12.54 | End | and that's because its about to get canceled :P |
| 05:13.20 | Neuro_Medivh | End: depends on the show... few shows know when they will end, so they stretch everything out as much as they can |
| 05:13.30 | NightHawkTheSane | although, yeah.. the last seasons often suck because a) they're about to get cancelled anyway, or b) it began to suck, and so it got cancelled so that became the 'last' esason |
| 05:13.42 | End | I was thinking b |
| 05:13.46 | End | but a could happen |
| 05:13.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: eh, thing is B5 had a definite 5 year timeline. s5 still was pathetic. |
| 05:13.54 | Neuro_Medivh | that's why shows like 24 are doing well, because they wrap everything up by seasons' end, then start a new story arc next season |
| 05:14.03 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane, that wasn't B5's fault |
| 05:14.09 | NightHawkTheSane | although, to be very fair, s5 of B5 was kinda marred by other issues |
| 05:14.16 | Neuro_Medivh | they told him they were cancelling after s4 |
| 05:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: yeah, i know |
| 05:14.25 | End | 24 is getting a little ridiculous though :P |
| 05:14.45 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not a fair comparison, but I'm still a -little- skeptical of how good it would have been if it had been done 'proper' |
| 05:15.18 | Neuro_Medivh | end: it was silly after season one, but it makes a good point. Shows like that, Buffy, Heroes, etc know to wrap up a story arc at season's end, then add the threads for the next season |
| 05:15.32 | End | yeah, I suppose that's true |
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| 05:15.52 | Neuro_Medivh | instead of Lost, which just keeps going and going. |
| 05:16.02 | End | Lost is literally lost |
| 05:16.06 | Neuro_Medivh | for the record, I stopped watching lost half-way through s3 |
| 05:16.23 | Neuro_Medivh | when they decided to show 6 new episodes just for Nov, then stop till Feb to pick back up |
| 05:16.25 | steev | i stopped watching it 1/2 way through the first episode |
| 05:16.29 | Neuro_Medivh | that's just pure greed |
| 05:16.50 | Thrae | steev: I got you beat -- I don't know even what you're talking about! Take THAT! |
| 05:17.17 | Thrae | Oh, Lost |
| 05:17.34 | Thrae | Actually, I like Lost, but I think I'll be disappointed with S5 |
| 05:17.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: welcome to the topic of discussion for the past 10 minutes. |
| 05:17.56 | Neuro_Medivh | Thrae, people tell me it got better in S4, but I think I'll just wait for the whole thing to end first |
| 05:18.06 | NightHawkTheSane | (that s5 of various series' sucks.) |
| 05:18.17 | Neuro_Medivh | tired of getting into shows/books/etc that never end |
| 05:18.28 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: I was playing WAR gimmie a break |
| 05:18.32 | Neuro_Medivh | like Wheel of Time... I just knew that bastard would die on me |
| 05:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: ugh, i KNOW. >< |
| 05:19.02 | Thrae | Neuro_Medivh: Eh, more like it got seriously twisted in S4 with some really weird jumps |
| 05:19.22 | Neuro_Medivh | sadly, I predicted this like 6 years ago, when he slowed down to 1 book every 2 years, I said "he's gonna pass away before he ever wraps this up" |
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| 05:20.05 | Neuro_Medivh | what's a carmel apple? |
| 05:20.08 | Thunder_Child | ~eat Dolby |
| 05:20.09 | purl | ACTION eats Dolby and falls over dead |
| 05:20.39 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, http://www.gourmetchocolatefoods.com/images/caramelapple.jpg |
| 05:20.43 | Dolby | a caramel one |
| 05:20.43 | Neuro_Medivh | the Game of Thrones guy is another I'm worried about |
| 05:23.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: you have no idea what a caramel apple is?! |
| 05:24.04 | Neuro_Medivh | NightHawkTheSane, I was poking fun at the typo |
| 05:24.11 | NightHawkTheSane | oh |
| 05:24.21 | Neuro_Medivh | lame of me, I know |
| 05:24.27 | Neuro_Medivh | chalk it up to boredom |
| 05:24.56 | Neuro_Medivh | maybe that's what I need to do, get blotto... would probably aleviate the boredom factor |
| 05:30.00 | Syzgyn | Woohoo T6 shoulders finally |
| 05:30.28 | Neuro_Medivh | gratz |
| 05:30.55 | Syzgyn | And more importantly, my gear matches again |
| 05:31.05 | Syzgyn | no more terrible-looking hyjal shoulders |
| 05:34.01 | Adys | If i try to access a tga in my addon folder |
| 05:34.24 | Adys | would it be something like :SetTexture("interface/addons/myaddon/blah.tga") ? |
| 05:34.31 | Adys | or is there something Im missing? |
| 05:34.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: grats |
| 05:34.44 | Syzgyn | I think so |
| 05:34.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: nah, it would just make you drunk AND bored. |
| 05:35.13 | NightHawkTheSane | fortunately, i'm avoiding the boredom part by reminding myself how simultaneously awesome and gawdawful applescript is |
| 05:35.49 | Syzgyn | Adys: Yes, capitalized correctly of course |
| 05:35.58 | Adys | caps dont seem to make a difference |
| 05:36.32 | Adys | same for slash/backslash or extension |
| 05:36.32 | Adys | interface/icons/temp works just as well as Interface\ICONS\Temp.blp |
| 05:36.53 | Arrowmaster | yes they do |
| 05:36.54 | Syzgyn | If you're using backslash its gotta be \\ |
| 05:37.15 | Adys | either way, tested with all and it doesnt seem to make a difference |
| 05:37.22 | Adys | my tga is just not being set =/ |
| 05:37.23 | Arrowmaster | use double backslashes and proper case |
| 05:38.01 | Arrowmaster | theres rules on textures too |
| 05:38.13 | Adys | 512x and alpha channel on it |
| 05:38.18 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 05:38.26 | Adys | DOH |
| 05:38.31 | Adys | forgot it was in img/ |
| 05:38.43 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:50.16 | Wobin | ^^ "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone" - B Stroustrup |
| 05:50.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: its funny, because it's true. :( I can't figure out our telephones at work. :( |
| 05:52.54 | Wobin | "Every language has an optimization operator. In C++ that operator is â//â" |
| 05:53.16 | ccox | and I can see Bjarne saying it... lol |
| 05:54.13 | Wobin | "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole leg." -- Bjarne Stroustrup |
| 05:55.40 | Wobin | also: âWeeks of programming can save you hours of planning.â |
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| 05:56.16 | Neuro_Medivh | I remember that list |
| 05:56.41 | Neuro_Medivh | famous, right up there with "100 rules for Evil Overlords" |
| 05:56.51 | Syzgyn | Thats a great list too |
| 05:57.05 | ccox | shooting off the leg doesn't sound like Bjarne |
| 05:57.14 | Wobin | no that wasn't Bjarne |
| 05:57.18 | Wobin | oh waiit |
| 05:57.21 | Wobin | that was, apparently |
| 05:57.34 | Wobin | who knows =P |
| 05:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | bjarne, i bet |
| 06:05.31 | Syzgyn | Dolby: ping |
| 06:08.49 | Syzgyn | Nevermind |
| 06:09.51 | Sargeras | call him: The Man |
| 06:09.55 | Sargeras | that'll get his attention |
| 06:10.00 | Dewin | there really needs to be an attitude meter for flight |
| 06:11.28 | Neuro_Medivh | someone tried to code one, it's really quite hard |
| 06:12.06 | Neuro_Medivh | since there's no way to tell z-axis |
| 06:13.29 | Syzgyn | There is now |
| 06:13.38 | Syzgyn | GetUnitPitch(unit) |
| 06:13.55 | Syzgyn | theres also GetUnitSpeed(unit) |
| 06:14.08 | NightHawkTheSane | huh |
| 06:14.15 | Wobin | orly? |
| 06:14.18 | NightHawkTheSane | well that ought to make it fairly trival |
| 06:14.27 | Wobin | bout time =) |
| 06:14.33 | Syzgyn | Try it in the beta :) |
| 06:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | [23:14:33]DevTools: value=GetUnitPitch("player") |
| 06:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | [23:14:33][1]=-0.11082845926285 |
| 06:14.50 | Syzgyn | Pitch goes from -1.5.... to positive |
| 06:15.28 | nevcairiel | they added the pitch because you need it to control the siege weapons |
| 06:15.29 | NightHawkTheSane | "1.5533430576324" seems to the max/min value. |
| 06:15.47 | Syzgyn | yeah |
| 06:16.00 | Syzgyn | Speed puts regular running at 7 |
| 06:16.02 | NightHawkTheSane | you know... |
| 06:16.30 | NightHawkTheSane | with pitch & speed, you could probably have a ~75% accurate altimeter. |
| 06:17.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 06:17.10 | Syzgyn | You could atleast throw together something combined with waypoints that would tell you if you were going slightly slower than you could be due to pitch |
| 06:17.20 | Syzgyn | I dunno how you'd get height from that |
| 06:17.24 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, speed seems to work with flying vertically as well. |
| 06:17.41 | Syzgyn | Yea |
| 06:17.46 | Syzgyn | Its relative speed |
| 06:17.51 | Syzgyn | but you can use pitch for it |
| 06:18.09 | Syzgyn | the closer to 0, the faster you're going on the x/y plane |
| 06:18.15 | Neuro_Medivh | the problem with an altimeter is that there's no real "sea level" |
| 06:18.20 | Syzgyn | That too |
| 06:18.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Neuro_Medivh: that's the major issue |
| 06:18.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: well, i mean, if you get on a flying mouont and hit your 'jump' key to go straight up, GetPlayerSpeed() returns a non-zero value |
| 06:18.53 | Neuro_Medivh | but an attitude meter should be easy now, as NightHawkTheSane said |
| 06:19.06 | Syzgyn | Right, relative speed |
| 06:19.37 | Syzgyn | Hell, it returns non-zero values if you're running against a wall |
| 06:19.38 | Cairenn | attitude or altitude? |
| 06:19.49 | Neuro_Medivh | attitude |
| 06:20.05 | NightHawkTheSane | -attitude- should be trivial to do |
| 06:20.22 | NightHawkTheSane | -altitude- is theoretically possible, but would be highly prone to error |
| 06:20.35 | Syzgyn | remind me what attitude is in terms of flight |
| 06:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: pitch |
| 06:21.00 | Syzgyn | Ah |
| 06:21.01 | Neuro_Medivh | attitude shows you how level you are flying |
| 06:21.07 | Cairenn | yup |
| 06:21.08 | NightHawkTheSane | or, more specifically: position of aircraft or spacecraft relative to a frame of reference (the horizon or direction of motion) |
| 06:21.11 | Syzgyn | Yea, thats easy-peasy now |
| 06:21.29 | NightHawkTheSane | (in this case, your 'frame of reference' is the 0 value returned by getunitpitch |
| 06:21.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ) |
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| 06:23.08 | Syzgyn | I dont believe Either function work on NPC's |
| 06:23.47 | NightHawkTheSane | getunitspeed seems to |
| 06:23.54 | Syzgyn | Oh yea? |
| 06:23.59 | NightHawkTheSane | [23:23:36]DevTools: value=GetUnitSpeed("target") |
| 06:23.59 | NightHawkTheSane | [23:23:36][1]=6.9709072113037 |
| 06:24.13 | NightHawkTheSane | my target, in this case was a stormforged iron giant, in storm peaks. |
| 06:24.45 | nevcairiel | i suppose he was walking? |
| 06:24.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. ;) |
| 06:24.55 | NightHawkTheSane | with a bit of work i bet you could do a 'time to intercept' mod between you and your target. |
| 06:25.08 | nevcairiel | you cant get accurate range readings |
| 06:25.19 | nevcairiel | to npcs |
| 06:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, right. |
| 06:26.08 | Syzgyn | You can use ability range readings |
| 06:26.19 | Syzgyn | 20yds, 5yds, whatever |
| 06:26.34 | Syzgyn | I could be done |
| 06:26.35 | NightHawkTheSane | but if you're that close, time-to-intercept is.. not that useful. |
| 06:26.42 | Syzgyn | not sure why you'd want to do it, but it could be done :P |
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| 06:27.53 | Syzgyn | Speed would definitely be useful to see if you'll be able to catch someone you're chasing |
| 06:28.28 | NightHawkTheSane | or, to see if you're outrunning someone or not. |
| 06:28.33 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 06:37.24 | Neuro_Medivh | That's what I need, an addon to say "You're losing him, slowpoke. You're being outrun by a Tauren? Did you have too many cheeseburgers today?" |
| 06:37.33 | Syzgyn | Haha |
| 06:38.12 | Syzgyn | What would be a good way to differentiate horde vs alliance specific achievements? |
| 06:38.23 | Neuro_Medivh | "Your target is mounted and running at 110% speed, you are running at 60% speed. Buy an epic mount you cheap bastard" |
| 06:38.40 | Jamash | Differentiate in what way? |
| 06:38.51 | Syzgyn | Tell the difference between |
| 06:38.57 | Jamash | ... |
| 06:39.04 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 06:39.12 | Syzgyn | Tell if its one or the other, or neither |
| 06:39.35 | Syzgyn | I dont suppose theres a GetAchievementFaction(id) function :\ |
| 06:39.37 | Jamash | I would dump the achievements from a horde character and an alliance character to a text file then run a diff |
| 06:39.58 | Syzgyn | That doesnt help when I do it on the fly, or if they add new ones |
| 06:40.04 | Jamash | nope |
| 06:40.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: what would you need it for? |
| 06:40.54 | Syzgyn | I started sorting achievements by using GetAchievementCategory(id) |
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| 06:41.06 | Syzgyn | which doesnt care who's side they belong to |
| 06:41.42 | NightHawkTheSane | im still not sure what the purpose would be in game |
| 06:41.50 | NightHawkTheSane | but maybe im missing something |
| 06:42.10 | Syzgyn | For my achievement mod |
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| 06:42.27 | NightHawkTheSane | well yes.. but can you even show achievements from the opposite faction? |
| 06:42.30 | Syzgyn | Yep |
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| 06:42.42 | Cairenn | awwwwww! http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/09/16/funny-pictures-dun-wurry/ |
| 06:42.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ah |
| 06:42.50 | NightHawkTheSane | well then :) |
| 06:43.00 | Syzgyn | The way I was doing it, with GetAchievementInfo(category, offset) kept it faction specific |
| 06:43.14 | Syzgyn | but that skips anything you havent completed or are working on |
| 06:43.43 | Syzgyn | so I switched to one big loop and GetAchievementCategory(), but now it doesnt segregate for me |
| 06:44.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 06:44.49 | Sargeras | http://roflrazzi.com/ |
| 06:45.13 | NightHawkTheSane | probably, Syzgyn |
| 06:45.22 | NightHawkTheSane | he's got 20k hp with fort, though.. |
| 06:45.31 | NightHawkTheSane | looks like t6 gear, so.. |
| 06:46.16 | Syzgyn | Level difference doesnt care |
| 06:46.25 | Syzgyn | He's gonna be eating crushing blows left and right |
| 06:46.43 | Syzgyn | Sargeras: nice |
| 06:46.47 | Neuro_Medivh | thought they got rid of those |
| 06:47.18 | WobWork | Sargeras: classy |
| 06:47.18 | Syzgyn | They did effectively |
| 06:47.32 | Syzgyn | Changed it to level diff - 3 to level diff -4 |
| 06:47.50 | Syzgyn | Anything you do on level, you're find |
| 06:47.51 | Syzgyn | fine* |
| 06:47.52 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, so you still need to be max lvl |
| 06:47.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Syzgyn: well if he's in t6, he might be able to push anti-crushing... |
| 06:48.03 | Syzgyn | Not at 75 :P |
| 06:48.08 | NightHawkTheSane | you sure? |
| 06:48.13 | nevcairiel | you drop alot of ratings on leveling |
| 06:48.14 | Syzgyn | Defense goes downhill fast as you level :P |
| 06:48.16 | nevcairiel | so doubtful |
| 06:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | you're probably right |
| 06:48.29 | NightHawkTheSane | we'll see |
| 06:48.36 | nevcairiel | warriors have some serious issues getting back to crit immunity |
| 06:48.47 | NightHawkTheSane | by the way, anyone have ANY idea what we're supposed to do in here? ;) |
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| 06:49.06 | Syzgyn | Talk to arthas |
| 06:49.12 | Syzgyn | follow the minimap arrows for each wave |
| 06:49.27 | Syzgyn | wave 5 and 10 are bosses |
| 06:49.49 | Syzgyn | then you go through a gauntlet thing and have to go fast or arthas dies |
| 06:50.07 | nevcairiel | let arthas die and we dont have that lich king problem |
| 06:50.10 | Syzgyn | then some more paced waves, and mal'ganis |
| 06:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 06:50.12 | Syzgyn | Lol |
| 06:51.24 | Jamash | I'm too sleepy to finish testing my addon for bugs |
| 06:51.31 | Syzgyn | Weak |
| 06:51.35 | Neuro_Medivh | that's what users are for |
| 06:51.38 | Jamash | that means it's time to upload it! |
| 06:51.38 | Neuro_Medivh | just ask Blizz |
| 06:51.42 | Syzgyn | zing! |
| 06:52.55 | Syzgyn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10867-UrbanAchiever.html Go! Test! |
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| 06:53.36 | Jamash | mmkay |
| 06:54.08 | Syzgyn | heh, you cant even now, its still pending the latest version :P |
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| 06:56.06 | Tekkub | o/~ now dance fucker dance, man he never had a chance o/~ |
| 06:56.15 | Tekkub | this is such a great song to wake up to |
| 06:56.57 | Tekkub | nothing gets you ready for the day like o/~ hit 'em right between the eyes, hit 'em right between the eyes o/~ |
| 06:57.28 | Syzgyn | waking up? |
| 06:57.39 | Tekkub | it was on the radio this morn when I got up |
| 06:57.43 | Tekkub | so I downloaded the album |
| 06:57.55 | Syzgyn | Ah |
| 06:58.09 | Neuro_Medivh | sounds like bad pop-rap |
| 06:58.26 | Tekkub | I rarely wake in a good mood, so I'm gonna tos this in the alarm, see if it help |
| 06:58.31 | Tekkub | 03. The Offspring - [Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace CD1 #03] You're Gonna Go Far, Kid |
| 06:58.38 | Tekkub | not rap at all |
| 06:59.00 | Syzgyn | Heh, The Offspring |
| 06:59.13 | Tekkub | yea, it's such a happy violent song |
| 06:59.19 | Syzgyn | Seems to be their thing |
| 06:59.25 | Neuro_Medivh | much better then... |
| 06:59.52 | Tekkub | waking up and wanting to kick the first cat to come near me? |
| 07:00.11 | Tekkub | getting out of bed is the worst part of the day |
| 07:00.15 | Neuro_Medivh | wow, sounds a LOT like early green day |
| 07:00.34 | Tekkub | yea they're very similar |
| 07:00.50 | Jamash | woo, uploaded |
| 07:00.58 | Neuro_Medivh | well, I know the Offspring obviously... but this is a throwback to their earlier sound |
| 07:01.12 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 07:01.48 | Neuro_Medivh | reminds me of the summer of 94... had SO much fun that year |
| 07:02.23 | Neuro_Medivh | that was the year I lived entirely off of Magic:The Gathering |
| 07:02.41 | Tekkub | cards don't really taste that great do they? |
| 07:02.49 | Tekkub | I mean, there's only so many ways to cook em |
| 07:02.52 | Neuro_Medivh | lol |
| 07:03.03 | Syzgyn | Ugh, Magic |
| 07:03.19 | Syzgyn | that consumed a year of high school and some stupid amount of cash |
| 07:03.22 | Tekkub | I was never able to get into card games... |
| 07:03.26 | Syzgyn | Be glad |
| 07:03.36 | Tekkub | instead I sorted and organized and resorted the cards obsessivly |
| 07:03.44 | Tekkub | but never actually PLAYED with them |
| 07:04.10 | Neuro_Medivh | well, that was the first year the game came out, when prices were skyrocketing and you could shark people out of their power 9 |
| 07:04.24 | Syzgyn | Heh |
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| 07:04.46 | Neuro_Medivh | that, and cash tournaments were popping up all over the place |
| 07:04.48 | Syzgyn | I stared with Odyssey Block, and ended with 8th edition and the terribly change to the card layout |
| 07:05.01 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, that's long after all the fun got sucked out |
| 07:05.34 | Jamash | is it just me or is wowui.worldofwar.net not working? |
| 07:05.35 | Syzgyn | Heh |
| 07:05.46 | Neuro_Medivh | that's like starting to play EQ right before WoW came out |
| 07:06.08 | Thunder_Child | Jamash, http://war.mmoui.com/ |
| 07:06.13 | Jamash | I've never heard of Odyssey Block, but I got out after 4th |
| 07:06.17 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 07:06.21 | Thunder_Child | er... |
| 07:06.21 | Syzgyn | Fail TC |
| 07:06.25 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 07:06.51 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 07:06.52 | purl | Thunder_Child: FAIL! |
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| 07:07.20 | Syzgyn | If I remember correctly Odyssey came out 1 or 2 blocks after 7th |
| 07:08.07 | Neuro_Medivh | shrug, after a while I stopped playing magic and started playing poker... far more fun =) |
| 07:08.22 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, and you loose less money |
| 07:08.24 | Thunder_Child | lose* |
| 07:08.32 | Neuro_Medivh | lose? I don't lose money at poker =) |
| 07:08.38 | Jamash | I got sucked into the WoW TCG but decided to give it up |
| 07:08.42 | Neuro_Medivh | unless I'm just really unlucky |
| 07:09.37 | Jamash | now I play D&D which is extremely cheap since I know someone who has all the sourcebooks and lots of dice and miniatures |
| 07:09.48 | Neuro_Medivh | didn't they just release 4th? |
| 07:09.52 | Syzgyn | Recently |
| 07:09.55 | Thunder_Child | a bit ago |
| 07:10.18 | Thunder_Child | i got hooked on the D&D minis myself. i failed my saving throw |
| 07:10.19 | Syzgyn | D&D is only expensive when you're getting started :P |
| 07:10.22 | Jamash | We're playing 3.5 since the campaign started before 4th came out |
| 07:10.25 | Neuro_Medivh | my little brother still plays, he said it turned into WoW |
| 07:10.31 | Syzgyn | Magic and CCGs are expensive for as long as you play |
| 07:10.42 | Jamash | also our GM hates 4th |
| 07:10.54 | Neuro_Medivh | lol, I hated 2nd |
| 07:11.05 | Tekkub | *thinks of that one video thing making fun of DnD* |
| 07:11.10 | Neuro_Medivh | somewhere, I still have my 1st edition AD&D manual |
| 07:11.19 | Neuro_Medivh | the DMG and PH |
| 07:11.21 | Tekkub | "Are there bears there? I bang the bears" |
| 07:11.32 | Thunder_Child | I LOVE THACO! |
| 07:11.41 | Neuro_Medivh | "I cast magic missile at the DARKNESS!" |
| 07:11.48 | Neuro_Medivh | "Do you have any Mountain Dew?" |
| 07:11.57 | Thunder_Child | Neuro_Medivh, >.< |
| 07:11.57 | Jamash | I think my dad bought a AD&D adventure which never got played |
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| 07:12.33 | Jamash | everyone in my family is too lazy to DM |
| 07:12.34 | Neuro_Medivh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kgx2b1sIRs&feature=related |
| 07:13.01 | Syzgyn | Lol Jamash |
| 07:13.22 | Tekkub | you know, the only thing worse that fucking flash and youtube, is when assholes put AUDIO FILES on youtube |
| 07:13.44 | Syzgyn | Oh screw that |
| 07:13.51 | Syzgyn | the 8bit characters are half the fun |
| 07:13.52 | Jamash | it's not a joke, it's true, we're incredibly lazy |
| 07:13.53 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd rather just that then some lame anime video |
| 07:14.01 | Tekkub | DOWN WITH FLASH! |
| 07:14.02 | Syzgyn | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/dnd |
| 07:14.38 | Tekkub | *stab* |
| 07:14.47 | Tekkub | I have that whole album |
| 07:14.52 | Tekkub | and his others too :) |
| 07:15.23 | Syzgyn | Not what I thought it was, but amusing none the less :P |
| 07:15.57 | Syzgyn | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/90046 thats what I was trying to find |
| 07:16.40 | Neuro_Medivh | it's funny how close to truth that audio file is |
| 07:17.10 | Syzgyn | I could never really get into it |
| 07:17.19 | Jamash | it's especially true now that everyone quotes it while playing >.> |
| 07:17.21 | Syzgyn | the only people I played with were terrible at it |
| 07:17.36 | Syzgyn | lol 4th wall? |
| 07:20.03 | ReAn | so i got an msn from a real life friend whom I haven't seen in a while and all he did was bitch that I released a mod he had a concept for before he released his |
| 07:20.07 | ReAn | >_> |
| 07:20.12 | Jamash | wah wah wah wah |
| 07:20.16 | ReAn | prettymuch |
| 07:20.22 | ReAn | i told him he shoulda been quicker? |
| 07:20.34 | Jamash | what was the mod? |
| 07:20.38 | Tekkub | tell him to sit and spin |
| 07:20.40 | ReAn | RuneWatch |
| 07:20.44 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 07:20.53 | Tekkub | oh yea, that's a really unique idea there |
| 07:20.54 | ReAn | hey Tekkub: who built the guides in TourGuide? |
| 07:20.58 | Tekkub | I'm sure you stole it |
| 07:20.59 | ReAn | i know eh? |
| 07:21.10 | Tekkub | you couldn't've thought that shit up on your own |
| 07:21.19 | Thunder_Child | Syzgyn, i prefer live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyxnEKTjhj0 |
| 07:21.23 | ReAn | he was mainly bitching about the features |
| 07:21.30 | ReAn | not the actual mod in general |
| 07:21.32 | ReAn | but still |
| 07:21.44 | Syzgyn | Heh |
| 07:21.47 | Tekkub | I wrote the guides, I don't claim ownership of the original order though |
| 07:21.48 | ReAn | same deal |
| 07:21.54 | ReAn | hrm |
| 07:21.59 | Tekkub | and a lot of the horde guides are edits by other people |
| 07:22.58 | ReAn | at about lvl 28 (horde) i found it rather unsatisfactory, there was a lot of missing information and generally the guides didn't get me to quite the spot i wanted/needed to be, the mod is awesome tho... guides just could use some tweaks imho |
| 07:29.03 | Tekkub | horde guides are only tested thru ~20 |
| 07:29.16 | Tekkub | so yea, after that they blow |
| 07:29.38 | nevcairiel | horde blows, so yeah |
| 07:29.39 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 07:29.48 | Tekkub | the BC ones are nearly exact duplicates of the ally ones... funny how both factions have the same questlines with different text |
| 07:32.31 | foxlit | WotLK story is weird |
| 07:32.40 | foxlit | "hey, let's kill the alliance, 'kay?" |
| 07:33.58 | Neuro_Medivh | you know, becoming the Lich King is probably the best thing that ever happened to Arthas |
| 07:35.22 | Gnarfoz | that's what SHE said. |
| 07:35.40 | Tekkub | kill the alliance? |
| 07:35.42 | Tekkub | no no |
| 07:35.46 | foxlit | now, now, what does YOUR MOM have to do with the Lich King? |
| 07:35.54 | Tekkub | the WotLK story is "Hey, the king's back" |
| 07:36.05 | foxlit | Tekkub: but no one cares |
| 07:36.15 | Tekkub | true |
| 07:36.19 | foxlit | Since the only reason to go to stormwind is to catch a boat / get some alliance rep :) |
| 07:36.27 | Tekkub | I was expecting him to be bigger and furrier |
| 07:36.33 | Tekkub | instead he's just a dumb human |
| 07:37.12 | foxlit | But the Icecrown situation is just... odd. |
| 07:37.12 | Tekkub | I"m only lv 61 :P |
| 07:37.12 | Tekkub | *71 |
| 07:37.22 | foxlit | Open hostility that seems to be taken for granted by everyone when BC has been "let's be friends with the happy light thing" |
| 07:39.15 | Tekkub | now dance fucker dance! |
| 07:39.20 | Tekkub | I could listen to this all night |
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| 07:44.34 | foxlit | Mm, Jorge Cham is apparently coming to our campus. Awesome! |
| 07:48.53 | Syzgyn | Bahaha http://www.dominic-deegan.com/ |
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| 08:08.08 | steev | is there a dps meter that works on the ptr? |
| 08:08.23 | ReAn | wotlk version on recount prolly does |
| 08:08.23 | nevcairiel | recount works |
| 08:08.24 | foxlit | There's no reason those should break |
| 08:08.26 | steev | im not sure the toc needs to be 30000 because i have the wotlk bt4 and its enabled, but doesn't seem to work in game |
| 08:08.51 | haste | load out of date works for 2.4 addons in wotlk |
| 08:08.58 | nevcairiel | sadly it does =P |
| 08:09.29 | steev | well, wowlua works |
| 08:09.37 | steev | and msbt is working (wotlk version) |
| 08:09.44 | steev | but bt4 doesn't show up, no errors or anything |
| 08:10.02 | nevcairiel | it probably errors, and you just fail at catching that |
| 08:10.02 | steev | typing /bt4 doesn't give an error or type /help for more commands |
| 08:10.14 | steev | er, im sorry - it comes up with /help |
| 08:10.35 | ReAn | /bt & /kb for BT4 |
| 08:10.42 | nevcairiel | http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/addons/wotlk/Bartender4-WotLK-r81715.zip |
| 08:10.46 | nevcairiel | try that |
| 08:10.51 | nevcairiel | it includes all libraries |
| 08:11.18 | haste | nevcairiel: hows that sadly :p ? |
| 08:11.34 | nevcairiel | it doesnt deprecate addons that didnt get updates for us |
| 08:11.44 | haste | I would have to maintain two versions of several addons just to have a different version |
| 08:11.59 | nevcairiel | live works with 30000 toc |
| 08:12.09 | foxlit | live works meh with 30000 toc |
| 08:12.13 | haste | yes, but then it becomes out of date |
| 08:12.17 | foxlit | ^ |
| 08:12.18 | steev | whoa |
| 08:12.24 | steev | okay, apparently i was missing the libraries |
| 08:12.24 | haste | and the stupid people will compain |
| 08:12.35 | steev | now to try to config it how i have bt3 |
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| 08:13.01 | foxlit | haste: ambush sloaken and demand ## Supports-Interface: nnnnn instead of ## Interface: nnnnn |
| 08:13.08 | foxlit | s/oa/ou/ |
| 08:13.26 | NightHawkTheSane | so... |
| 08:13.28 | haste | foxlit: I can't really |
| 08:13.33 | foxlit | :( |
| 08:13.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I just did cot:stratholme with a level 75 pally tank |
| 08:13.42 | haste | needs to be a USA-hole to do such! |
| 08:13.42 | nevcairiel | hm i shouldve tried that earlier, apparently my CPU is nice for overclocking, 20% more clock speed for 10°C more |
| 08:14.05 | foxlit | 2% more performance for -100% warranty? |
| 08:14.16 | haste | foxlit: another solution would be to let it take two versions on ## Interface |
| 08:14.19 | foxlit | Sounds like a glyph :) |
| 08:14.25 | nevcairiel | 20%! |
| 08:14.36 | foxlit | But is clock speed == performance? |
| 08:14.38 | Neuro_Medivh | just for tekkub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbTO0GlONU |
| 08:15.04 | Tekkub | I heard about that |
| 08:15.09 | nevcairiel | foxlit: I'll see about that when my temperature test is done |
| 08:15.32 | Neuro_Medivh | they're showcasing it at the Texas State Fair, gonna go try some |
| 08:15.49 | Tekkub | I won't go near texas, not even for bacon |
| 08:16.24 | ReAn | come to canada for bacon |
| 08:16.26 | Neuro_Medivh | Texas is great |
| 08:16.36 | Tekkub | mmm.. canada.... |
| 08:16.58 | Neuro_Medivh | Isn't Canada having it's third election in 4 years next month? |
| 08:17.30 | Tekkub | must mean they like voting |
| 08:17.50 | Tekkub | "We like democracy so much, we vote every 4 months! |
| 08:18.02 | haste | damn you Neuro_Medivh ! |
| 08:18.07 | haste | now I'm even more hungry |
| 08:19.05 | MoonWolf | it sounds tasty |
| 08:19.34 | foxlit | Voting every 4 months is better than some of the alternatives |
| 08:19.45 | foxlit | for line in af:lines() do |
| 08:20.04 | Tekkub | DANCE FUCKER DANCE! |
| 08:20.08 | foxlit | ^ source of great qq, now I want to iterate over lines from a specific file offset |
| 08:20.14 | Tekkub | okey I need to turn this off and go to bed |
| 08:20.24 | MoonWolf | Tekkub, "P |
| 08:20.29 | MoonWolf | :P* |
| 08:22.38 | steev | nevcairiel: how do i move the bars? |
| 08:22.45 | steev | they seem to be stuck in the middle of my screen |
| 08:22.51 | ReAn | type /bt |
| 08:22.51 | nevcairiel | unlock them? |
| 08:22.55 | ReAn | then unlock the bars |
| 08:23.53 | foxlit | Wonder what a reasonable buffer size is |
| 08:24.09 | steev | sorry, trying ot get used to the whole changed configuration |
| 08:24.14 | foxlit | (reading apache logs from file, dumping them into sqlite) |
| 08:24.15 | steev | to* |
| 08:26.13 | Neuro_Medivh | nev, is there a way to set BT to load up a particular setup by default? (Talking about bt4 for wotlk) I tried copying it to the DEFAULT profile, but that doesn't work |
| 08:26.42 | nevcairiel | what do you mean? |
| 08:26.52 | nevcairiel | just copy settings from a profile on initial setup |
| 08:26.58 | nevcairiel | or switch all to the default profile |
| 08:27.29 | Neuro_Medivh | well, right now, when you make a new toon, it has a default setup. I was wondering if there was a way to change that default so that any new toon I make automatically has that setup |
| 08:27.44 | nevcairiel | no thats not possible |
| 08:27.49 | Neuro_Medivh | ok |
| 08:28.01 | nevcairiel | it defaults to a character specific profile |
| 08:28.08 | nevcairiel | and on a new toon, thats empty |
| 08:28.25 | Neuro_Medivh | so I'd have to manually hack the default settings inside the addon? |
| 08:29.00 | ReAn | Neuro_Medivh |
| 08:29.02 | nevcairiel | So much work to change the profile after first login? =P |
| 08:29.11 | ReAn | make a profile |
| 08:29.13 | ReAn | and save it |
| 08:29.20 | ReAn | then just load that @ startup |
| 08:29.28 | ReAn | or copy it into your character profile |
| 08:29.38 | ReAn | takes you like 20 seconds per new character |
| 08:29.52 | nevcairiel | you could even do that scripted |
| 08:30.01 | nevcairiel | if you want to build a UI Pack |
| 08:30.20 | Neuro_Medivh | ReAn, I know that... but I'm exceedingly lazy =) |
| 08:30.38 | ReAn | and modifying the mod source is less work? |
| 08:30.45 | Neuro_Medivh | that I only have to do once |
| 08:30.45 | foxlit | yes |
| 08:30.51 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 08:30.51 | foxlit | and every time you update |
| 08:30.55 | nevcairiel | how many alts do you have o.O |
| 08:31.47 | Neuro_Medivh | very few, but I'm testing an addon of my own right now, and it requires me to make fresh toons a lot |
| 08:32.11 | ReAn | dude |
| 08:32.13 | Neuro_Medivh | regardless, I got my answer =) |
| 08:32.20 | ReAn | im lazy, i just re-make a layout each time |
| 08:32.27 | ReAn | BT4 is easy to configure |
| 08:32.54 | Neuro_Medivh | not for me... it keeps trying to snap to some imaginary grid |
| 08:33.06 | ReAn | grid? |
| 08:33.48 | Neuro_Medivh | don't ask me... I keep trying to nudge some bars over a few pixels, and it won't... it snaps over 10 pixels and locks in place |
| 08:34.38 | nevcairiel | on beta or on live? |
| 08:35.23 | Neuro_Medivh | beta |
| 08:35.32 | nevcairiel | it snaps to other bars |
| 08:35.42 | nevcairiel | but not to some invisible grid |
| 08:35.44 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:36.07 | Mikk | maybe disable snapping while you're holding down a modifier key |
| 08:36.24 | Mikk | (any modifier key) |
| 08:36.32 | nevcairiel | shift already does that |
| 08:36.38 | Mikk | aho |
| 08:36.52 | Mikk | was gonna suggest shift at first =) |
| 08:36.58 | Neuro_Medivh | ah, now THAT is nice to know... it was driving me mad (well, crazier than I already am) |
| 08:37.09 | nevcairiel | I wanted to put up some frame with some explaination saying that |
| 08:37.14 | nevcairiel | but i didnt get around to it yet |
| 08:37.41 | Mikk | Print it into the chatframe :P |
| 08:37.44 | Mikk | (Once) |
| 08:38.22 | nevcairiel | i kinda like that static-popup type frames, maybe even with a button to lock the bars again, and a checkbox to completly disable snapping |
| 08:38.55 | Mikk | good point |
| 08:41.22 | Mikk | (does blizzy's statics do checkboxes?) |
| 08:41.59 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 08:42.03 | nevcairiel | would steal the frame layout |
| 08:42.18 | ReAn | statics? |
| 08:42.35 | Mikk | the simple prompts you see; usually with yes/no buttons |
| 08:42.55 | ReAn | we can hook those? |
| 08:43.02 | nevcairiel | we can create our own |
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| 08:43.07 | nevcairiel | using the API |
| 08:43.08 | ReAn | is it just a template? |
| 08:43.23 | ReAn | er, nvm |
| 08:43.30 | Mikk | Hmmmmm..... Hmmmm.... |
| 08:44.00 | Mikk | AceGUI extension lib to create statics? =) |
| 08:44.23 | nevcairiel | that sounds like overkill |
| 08:44.43 | nevcairiel | you could just create a AceGUI Widget as a container |
| 08:44.47 | nevcairiel | that looks like a static |
| 08:44.52 | [SW]Dodge | Mikk: The Tutorial frame has an checkbox, dunno if it is a "static" like what you are searching |
| 08:45.08 | Mikk | No, not that kind, but thanks |
| 08:45.40 | Mikk | And nev I didn't just mean _looks_ like a static, I meant stacks with other prompts in the top half of the screen |
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| 08:45.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:46.09 | nevcairiel | srsly, i dont want multiple popups |
| 08:46.28 | Mikk | Well no, not from your addon |
| 08:46.41 | nevcairiel | I dont want multiple on my screen at one time |
| 08:46.48 | Mikk | But it happens |
| 08:46.54 | Mikk | Someone summons you or whatever |
| 08:47.07 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:47.37 | steev | is there anything better than fraps for recording wow? (on a PC, so no builtin mac videos :( ) |
| 08:48.00 | Mikk | define better? |
| 08:48.05 | ReAn | yea |
| 08:48.20 | ReAn | if you mean faster |
| 08:48.22 | ReAn | prolly not |
| 08:48.36 | steev | doesn't take 480mb for a 48 second clip? |
| 08:48.38 | Mikk | uses less cpu? has more tweaks? is easier to use? more features? |
| 08:48.46 | Jamash | xfire has a built in video recorder but I've never used it |
| 08:48.48 | ReAn | steev: that's because it's uncompressed |
| 08:48.56 | ReAn | you prolly dont have the cpu to encode the video on the fly |
| 08:48.57 | nevcairiel | steev: thats all a question of hoch much CPU you want to sepnd |
| 08:49.02 | ReAn | and if you're smart |
| 08:49.04 | ReAn | you wont want to |
| 08:49.05 | wereHamster | steev: decrease your resolution |
| 08:49.06 | nevcairiel | s/hoch/how/ |
| 08:49.23 | steev | i have a 64bit machine (not x2) |
| 08:49.35 | ReAn | ooh |
| 08:49.39 | ReAn | non-dual core is gonna suffer |
| 08:49.46 | wereHamster | and decrease the fps at which fraps captures |
| 08:50.24 | ReAn | steev: even good computers have issues encoding video at 30 fps |
| 08:50.26 | steev | its set to 25 |
| 08:50.28 | ReAn | while doing nothing else |
| 08:50.36 | ReAn | to any DECENT codec that is |
| 08:50.50 | steev | but, i do have it full size because the halfsize video, you couldn't see shit |
| 08:51.07 | ReAn | steev: what resolution? |
| 08:51.18 | ReAn | btw |
| 08:51.21 | steev | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLWhAoaGuNk |
| 08:51.27 | steev | 1280x1024 |
| 08:51.36 | ReAn | steev: youtube compresses the shit out of your videos |
| 08:51.38 | nevcairiel | play on a lower res then? :p |
| 08:51.38 | ReAn | also |
| 08:51.47 | ReAn | half-size function is a pos |
| 08:51.53 | ReAn | actually HALF the size of wow |
| 08:51.57 | ReAn | and record @ full size |
| 08:52.06 | steev | this was me doing my first fraps while playing around in ulda trying to get the pendulum of doom |
| 08:52.07 | ReAn | i record my videos @ 1280x720 |
| 08:52.44 | Neuro_Medivh | I record mine at 1680x1050, uncompressed |
| 08:53.22 | Neuro_Medivh | I can get about 10 seconds before my hd fills up |
| 08:53.54 | ReAn | lol |
| 08:54.09 | ReAn | boss-fights are usually 4-5 gb at 720p |
| 08:54.17 | ReAn | btw |
| 08:54.20 | ReAn | fraps does compress |
| 08:54.23 | ReAn | but only about 5% |
| 08:54.27 | wereHamster | only a little |
| 08:54.41 | ReAn | an extremely lightweight propritary codec |
| 08:54.50 | ReAn | but it does the job |
| 08:54.51 | wereHamster | you could probably get a better compression with rle or lzw or such |
| 08:54.56 | ReAn | probably |
| 08:55.04 | Mikk | it's probably rle-ish |
| 08:55.11 | ReAn | probably |
| 08:55.21 | Mikk | probably does a good job on plain windows screencaps |
| 08:55.21 | wereHamster | heck, even quicklz could do a better job, at less cpu consumption |
| 08:55.49 | steev | so after fraps im supposed to use something else to compress it? |
| 08:55.54 | wereHamster | yes |
| 08:55.58 | steev | i never got into doing videos |
| 08:56.01 | Mikk | yeah, you load it up in a video editor of your choice |
| 08:56.10 | wereHamster | I'd suggest xvid/x264 or some other mpeg4 codec |
| 08:56.11 | Mikk | or just virtualdub |
| 08:56.20 | ReAn | http://hosted.reanmachine.com/WotLK-UK-Ingvar.mp4 <--- this video was 4.2gb out of fraps |
| 08:56.23 | ReAn | now it's 34mb |
| 08:56.25 | pb_ee1 | you can use divx too |
| 08:56.26 | ReAn | and it's clear as hell |
| 08:56.43 | pb_ee1 | if you want to make some editing, sony vegas or adobe premiere |
| 08:56.59 | pb_ee1 | sony vegas is way cheaper and as good as premiere for amateur editing |
| 08:57.05 | Mikk | the simple/free ones like virtualdub can cut out sections, but that's about it |
| 08:57.19 | ReAn | virtualdub is not a video authoring application |
| 08:57.24 | pb_ee1 | no |
| 08:57.25 | ReAn | it's a compression agent |
| 08:57.27 | pb_ee1 | yes |
| 08:57.34 | Mikk | with limited editing capabilities |
| 08:57.36 | steev | ugh |
| 08:57.40 | Mikk | i just mentioned it - depending on what he wanted |
| 08:57.44 | ReAn | you can barely call it limited |
| 08:57.45 | Mikk | sony vegas = $$$ |
| 08:57.49 | Mikk | virtualdub = free |
| 08:57.57 | steev | my adobe cs dvd is at a friends cuz he has most of my computer stuff cuz i almost got evicted |
| 08:57.58 | ReAn | adobe premiere = $$$$$$$$$ |
| 08:58.02 | Mikk | also true =) |
| 08:58.07 | pb_ee1 | yeah but you can't even make a transition between two movies with virtualdub |
| 08:58.16 | pb_ee1 | sony vegas = 80, premiere = 800 |
| 08:58.23 | ReAn | pb_ee1: this is what i use AviSynth for |
| 08:58.25 | ReAn | :D |
| 08:58.29 | pb_ee1 | haha |
| 08:58.29 | ReAn | SCRIPT YOUR MOVIE! |
| 08:58.32 | pb_ee1 | i bought sony vegas |
| 08:58.45 | Mikk | $80 for vegas? that's not too bad |
| 08:58.51 | ReAn | Mikk: Serious? |
| 08:58.58 | Mikk | that's what pb said |
| 08:59.10 | pb_ee1 | Result: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds4I_7M90qw |
| 08:59.11 | ReAn | 30 euros |
| 08:59.18 | Mikk | that's VERY reasonable |
| 08:59.28 | Mikk | but maybe he was quoting in american liras |
| 08:59.48 | pb_ee1 | ha i was wrong, sony vegas = 60 |
| 08:59.49 | pb_ee1 | http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope |
| 09:00.36 | krka | cinelerra for editing ftw! |
| 09:01.49 | Mikk | mmm yeah i'm finding it for ~30 euro + tax |
| 09:01.57 | Mikk | so 60 was in us lira |
| 09:02.37 | nevcairiel | 60 us converts to 30euro already? |
| 09:02.58 | krka | 1 Euro = 1.4186 U.S. dollars |
| 09:04.18 | Jamash | 30 = $42.55 |
| 09:04.45 | Jamash | that is the first time I have legitimately used the Euro key on my computer since I bought it |
| 09:05.02 | Maldivia | ⬠|
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| 09:08.47 | Arrowmaster | i need to stop draining my car battery |
| 09:09.34 | Mikk | Why _are_ you draining your car batter? :) |
| 09:09.46 | Arrowmaster | because its my only source of power |
| 09:09.52 | Mikk | oO |
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| 09:10.00 | ReAn | living out of your car? |
| 09:10.03 | nevcairiel | You could turn on the engine and fill it up again? |
| 09:10.15 | Arrowmaster | engine is running right now |
| 09:10.28 | Mikk | Butbut liek... wall outlet? |
| 09:10.31 | Mikk | Or oh |
| 09:10.40 | Mikk | You live down in catastrophyville? :S |
| 09:10.47 | nevcairiel | His wall outlet is out of business due to some wind'ish accident |
| 09:10.51 | Mikk | mmm |
| 09:10.55 | Arrowmaster | 300watt inverter powering cable modem, router, laptop |
| 09:11.07 | ReAn | wait... wut? |
| 09:11.13 | ReAn | where's the cable come from tho? |
| 09:11.35 | Mikk | Mildly impressive that it works |
| 09:11.36 | ReAn | are you seriously that poor? |
| 09:11.41 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:11.44 | Mikk | ReAn: US. Hurricane. |
| 09:11.50 | ReAn | orite |
| 09:12.00 | ReAn | i dont understand any east-coasters |
| 09:12.08 | ReAn | i woulda moved off that fucking coast eons ago |
| 09:12.09 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster: it's interesting that you don't have power, but the ISP infrastructure still works. Where are they drawing power from? |
| 09:12.14 | Arrowmaster | im not on the 'east-coast' |
| 09:12.40 | Mikk | Anyway... cable networks need to have filters and amps regularly spaced in their networks |
| 09:12.48 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: its tons of small line breaks, one block east and one block west of me both have power |
| 09:12.51 | Mikk | We're talking like 1 per block here |
| 09:12.51 | nevcairiel | ohio isnt exactly coast-line :P |
| 09:12.59 | Mikk | So yeah, the cable network workign is kinda ... interesting |
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| 09:13.09 | Mikk | ah, that'll do it |
| 09:13.31 | Arrowmaster | nah the cable here is super old theres no damn filters every block |
| 09:13.56 | Arrowmaster | cable worked when this half of town didnt have power |
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| 09:17.58 | Mikk | oh, believe me, amps get put in as the cable network gets prepped for modems |
| 09:18.02 | Mikk | but yeah not 1 per block |
| 09:18.09 | Mikk | necessarily |
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| 10:12.09 | leethal | what's the secret to make the background downloader work on vista? |
| 10:12.13 | leethal | been stuck at 2.5 megs for hours |
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| 10:17.30 | zenzio | is it for the live realms? |
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| 10:26.18 | leethal | yeah |
| 10:27.26 | zenzio | you could use a normal torrent client, the backgrounddownloader.torrent or whatever it's called should be extracted to wow\cache automatically IIRC |
| 10:27.52 | zenzio | though I don't know if that'd work any different, haven't tried Vista myself |
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| 10:41.07 | steev | ohmygod pvp servers are fun |
| 10:41.48 | steev | leethal: buddy of mine is having the same problem, let me flip over to vista and see if i have issues with downloading |
| 10:41.55 | leethal | \o/ |
| 10:47.37 | steev | on my vista, i have about, 516mb of it already |
| 10:48.14 | steev | wtf |
| 10:48.44 | steev | yeah... |
| 10:49.24 | steev | zenzio: it doesn't get extracted to that anymore |
| 10:49.44 | zenzio | it did for me when I downloaded the 3.x thing for live |
| 10:49.47 | leethal | wooh 4 megs |
| 10:50.00 | steev | its "going" for me |
| 10:50.03 | steev | just slow as shit |
| 10:50.17 | steev | probably stingy ass bastards out there on the internets |
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| 12:42.21 | Shirik | rofl, I'm reading this book of standards and general recommendations |
| 12:42.33 | Shirik | and it gets into the "camelCase vs underscore_variables" debate |
| 12:42.35 | Shirik | and it says this |
| 12:43.02 | Shirik | It's a precedent thing. If you have a Pascal or Smalltalk background, youProbablySquashNamesTogether like this. If you have an Ada background, You_Probably_Use_A_Large_Number_Of_Underscores like this. |
| 12:43.03 | Shirik | If you have a Microsoft Windows background, you probably prefer the "Hungarian" style which means you jkuidsPrefix vndskaIdentifiers ncqWith ksldjfTheir nmdsadType. And then there are the folks with a Unix C background, who abbr evthng n use vry srt idntfr nms. (AND THE FORTRN PRGMRS LIMIT EVRYTH TO SIX LETTRS.) |
| 12:44.15 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 12:44.28 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik.... thank you for a morning snort of laughter. |
| 12:44.39 | amro | Shirik: i've read that before... is it on wikibooks? |
| 12:44.50 | Shirik | C++ parashift faq |
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| 12:47.31 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 12:47.31 | purl | ACTION jumps into Peppy's lap and huggles and *hugs* Peppy |
| 12:47.56 | Shirik | ~hug |Jelly| |
| 12:47.56 | purl | ACTION hugs |Jelly| |
| 12:48.10 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, |Jelly|-dear. |
| 12:48.16 | |Jelly| | Morning :) |
| 12:54.56 | Shirik | :( |
| 12:55.26 | Lopeppeppy | What's for frowning, Shirik? |
| 12:55.39 | Shirik | (08:47:20) (+Lopeppeppy) Morning, |Jelly|-dear. |
| 12:55.48 | Shirik | Lack of: (08:47:20) (+Lopeppeppy) Morning, Shirik-dear. |
| 12:55.50 | |Jelly| | SHE LURVES MEH MOAR! |
| 12:57.00 | Maldivia | heh.. Blizzard is expecting people to hate them now! :) |
| 12:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik... you got my first morning laugh. If I gave everyone the exact same thing, where would be the fun in that? |
| 12:57.21 | Shirik | SHE LURVES MEH MORE! |
| 12:59.16 | |Jelly| | <3 |
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| 13:33.23 | Kaso | http://img.waffleimages.com/05fdc27e03b422dca27b4daf74e628db24cc972d/ike5.jpg |
| 13:33.33 | Kaso | Talk about unlucky |
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| 13:45.52 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 13:46.00 | Fisker- | perhaps he thought that fire fights water? |
| 13:46.00 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 13:50.03 | Kaso | heh |
| 13:50.15 | Kaso | On the other hand; http://img.waffleimages.com/84a051b5825d9df1f58e0a1508f89ae2b218ba4b/ike11.jpg |
| 13:50.20 | Kaso | this guy is luck personified |
| 13:51.29 | nevcairiel | Wonder if that house was standing there before |
| 13:52.30 | Kaso | hah, just got blown over in once peice |
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| 14:10.25 | |Jelly| | So my pally tank just out damaged a BM hunter in H-Bot. :( |
| 14:10.44 | ralfWORK | oh wow |
| 14:10.50 | ralfWORK | that's bad |
| 14:10.58 | Lopeppeppy | AoE tanking puts out tons of damage.... |
| 14:11.44 | |Jelly| | http://i37.tinypic.com/2q2g0hs.jpg ... |
| 14:13.00 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly kicks arse. |
| 14:14.15 | |Jelly| | clique |
| 14:14.51 | |Jelly| | Hell, the shield third from the right is an avoidance macro. |
| 14:15.05 | |Jelly| | Fifth from the right is my kill order spam. |
| 14:16.01 | |Jelly| | I could probably do some work to clear up and streamline my bars but everytime I think about doing it, I look at the WotLK pally changes and decide to just wait since I'm going to have to completely redo it there anyway. |
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| 14:21.42 | End | does anyone know if dungeon quests count for loremaster achievements? |
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| 14:52.12 | malreth | purl, hurt me |
| 14:52.13 | purl | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on malreth's hands, laughing all the while |
| 14:52.24 | malreth | diabolical! |
| 14:54.19 | Seerah | heh |
| 14:54.53 | Josh_Borke | purl, love me |
| 14:54.54 | purl | If you love josh_borke so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 14:57.51 | Josh_Borke | purl, hurt malreth |
| 14:57.52 | purl | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on malreth's hands, laughing all the while |
| 14:58.05 | malreth | ~rub Josh_Borke |
| 14:58.06 | purl | ACTION rubs Josh_Borke's face with a cheese grater. |
| 14:58.11 | AckisWork | purl, spank me |
| 14:58.12 | purl | ACTION bends ackiswork over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on ackiswork's pasty white buttocks. |
| 14:58.16 | AckisWork | rawr |
| 15:00.10 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are sick. |
| 15:00.13 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort purl |
| 15:00.14 | purl | There, there, purl. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 15:02.13 | malreth | Top Positions of Ten Sexual Best |
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| 15:02.37 | Lopeppeppy | That wasn't purl. |
| 15:02.41 | malreth | WHEN SOCIAL NETWORKS ENTANGLE |
| 15:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | Look who I was comforting, then crow. :P |
| 15:08.39 | malreth | i feel really good about this kiosk project. i'm really liking deep freeze now. |
| 15:09.35 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 15:11.47 | malreth | they automatically thaw themselves in the early morning, apply all system updates that have been vetted from our update server, reboot, and refreeze. |
| 15:12.04 | malreth | if all goes well, i'll never have to touch them again for a year |
| 15:12.07 | malreth | if that |
| 15:12.08 | Lopeppeppy | And you can schedule them for a time to thaw? Sweet |
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| 15:12.44 | malreth | since they're kiosks, there's no issue of having to install new software on them |
| 15:13.18 | malreth | and even if i had to, i can remotely thaw, drop a package on them in Apple Remote Desktop, and refreeze all from this laptop |
| 15:13.49 | malreth | once I get the netboot server running, I can even remotely re-image the machines |
| 15:14.50 | Lopeppeppy | That does sound quite sweet. |
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| 15:46.25 | Duman | uh, wow |
| 15:46.33 | Duman | Google buying Valve |
| 15:46.38 | Duman | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10044032-52.html?tag=rb_shell;rb_content |
| 15:46.56 | Duman | didn't see that one coming |
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| 15:50.05 | Shirik|Ecole | stupid laptop |
| 15:50.07 | Shirik|Ecole | "lolol no I wants Shirik" |
| 15:50.39 | Maldivia | hmm... ok? |
| 15:50.59 | Shirik|Ecole | my desktop and laptop fight over the nick Shirik :P |
| 15:52.11 | Maldivia | Duman: interesting! |
| 15:53.38 | Duman | yeah that's what I said |
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| 15:56.03 | cbreak | you could give them their own subnet... |
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| 16:02.21 | erikd | wow |
| 16:02.34 | erikd | that's kinda nice |
| 16:02.55 | erikd | google will be the digital publisher of the future! |
| 16:03.00 | Arrowmaster | yay my fridge has power! |
| 16:03.33 | nevcairiel | got another generator? |
| 16:03.36 | Arrowmaster | although its only from an extension coord running over to the neighbours generator |
| 16:03.44 | Seerah | hehe |
| 16:03.48 | Seerah | but cold food is good :) |
| 16:03.55 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 16:04.01 | Seerah | how do things look down there? |
| 16:04.06 | Arrowmaster | already threw a bunch of stuff away this morning |
| 16:04.14 | Arrowmaster | im not down im up |
| 16:04.23 | Seerah | >.< |
| 16:04.31 | Arrowmaster | ohio |
| 16:05.04 | Arrowmaster | still hearing atleast until sunday before we get power back |
| 16:05.26 | Seerah | what happened to your power? |
| 16:06.23 | Arrowmaster | trees |
| 16:06.26 | Arrowmaster | wind |
| 16:06.57 | Seerah | ah |
| 16:07.12 | Seerah | we got lucky with the wind around here - only some downed branches (Memphis) |
| 16:07.24 | Seerah | *from Ike |
| 16:07.28 | malreth | i heard from lunessa last night that at least the apartment building he lived in is still standing |
| 16:07.34 | malreth | so that's good news |
| 16:07.34 | Arrowmaster | http://picasaweb.google.com/arrowmaster/IkeDamage |
| 16:07.45 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 16:08.14 | kd3 | eesh... http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1088&tstamp=200809 |
| 16:08.14 | Arrowmaster | thats just pics i took on sunday walking round the block |
| 16:08.20 | kd3 | what a scary before/after ^ |
| 16:10.15 | nevcairiel | Why do US houses look so fragile to begin with anyway. all this dry-wall stuff. around here we use solid stones =P |
| 16:11.09 | Seerah | wow, kd3 |
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| 16:14.19 | amro | nevcairiel: so they get torn away by tornadoes/burned/destroyed in earthquakes more easily |
| 16:14.35 | nevcairiel | thats the only explanation i can come up with |
| 16:14.36 | nevcairiel | really :P |
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| 16:17.51 | Shirik|Ecole | nevcairiel: we're americans |
| 16:17.55 | Shirik|Ecole | we don't like using money |
| 16:18.12 | nevcairiel | you like rebuilding after tornados and hurricanes, i assume? :P |
| 16:18.27 | malreth_ | that's what insurance is for |
| 16:19.06 | nevcairiel | if you see footage of a tornado really crushing a house, you can see the wooden walls just crush. no wonder, its wood! |
| 16:19.36 | Shirik|Ecole | erm, nevcairiel |
| 16:19.42 | malreth | how often do houses get crushed by tornadoes? |
| 16:19.47 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 16:19.50 | Shirik|Ecole | our school's administration building was completely brick, etc. |
| 16:19.52 | malreth | not very often |
| 16:19.53 | Shirik|Ecole | it still got crushed |
| 16:19.59 | Shirik|Ecole | not much can survive a tornado |
| 16:20.00 | malreth | and there's that, too |
| 16:20.26 | Shirik|Ecole | also, nevcairiel, interestingly enough, those "strong stone buildings" in hurricanes would be the most damaged |
| 16:20.55 | malreth | yep |
| 16:20.58 | Shirik|Ecole | the reason for that is because you have a very high wind speed over the roof |
| 16:21.03 | Shirik|Ecole | and no wind speed under the roof |
| 16:21.08 | Shirik|Ecole | that causes a drop in pressure that "pulls up" on the roof |
| 16:21.13 | Shirik|Ecole | in the exact same way an airplane works |
| 16:21.40 | Shirik|Ecole | Weaker houses would likely let some of that wind inside the house, relaxing that problem (though they'll get crushed too, so the point is mostly moot) |
| 16:21.45 | malreth | my parents used to live on guam. all the military installations, brick walls and metal roofs were destroyed while grass huts stayed standing |
| 16:22.03 | malreth | during typhoon pamela |
| 16:22.08 | alestane | Grass huts are wind-permeable. |
| 16:22.26 | malreth | they also bend and flex in the wind |
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| 16:22.30 | amro | Shirik|Ecole: brick as in the small red bricks or big bricks and concrete? |
| 16:22.46 | Shirik|Ecole | let me see if I can find a picture of it |
| 16:22.51 | Shirik|Ecole | it's been about 2 years I don't remember :D |
| 16:22.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:23.13 | nevcairiel | Well i doubt our euro houses here will ever be hurricane tested |
| 16:23.17 | nevcairiel | (hopefully) |
| 16:23.50 | amro | even without disasters, its creepy to walk around a house and feel the floor bending beneath you |
| 16:24.19 | nevcairiel | sound and drywall doesnt really play well either, i assume. blocking wise, that is |
| 16:25.08 | amro | on the plus side, if you ever need to drill it's real easy |
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| 16:26.41 | malreth | actually, drywall attenuates sound quite well. |
| 16:27.08 | malreth | for additional sound-proofing, thicker panels are used or two layers are stacked on top of one another |
| 16:27.15 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 16:27.29 | Seerah | whereas with brick/stone, sound is amplified |
| 16:27.55 | Shirik|Ecole | yeah, but brits don't listen to good music anyway |
| 16:27.57 | Shirik|Ecole | so not really impotant |
| 16:28.08 | Seerah | :) |
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| 16:30.48 | Cide | hi |
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| 16:31.51 | Anaral | Does anyone know why msconfig's window wouldn't open when started? |
| 16:32.52 | Shirik|Ecole | msconfig is crap anyway |
| 16:32.54 | malreth | malware |
| 16:32.59 | Shirik|Ecole | but many programs try to take it over |
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| 16:35.43 | Neuro_Medivh | malreth, you heard from Lunessa? How's his place of residence? |
| 16:36.54 | malreth | Neuro_Medivh: he doesn't know specifics... it's going to be at least a week before they'll let anyone on the island |
| 16:37.08 | malreth | supposedly, his apartment building is still standing but there's no word on flood damage |
| 16:37.20 | Neuro_Medivh | he staying with you, or somewhere else in Austin? |
| 16:37.28 | malreth | somewhere else in Austin |
| 16:38.50 | Neuro_Medivh | I wonder if galveston will try and extend the seawall after this... from everything I saw, it protected it's half of the island reasonably well |
| 16:40.34 | |Jelly| | "Blessing of Sanctuary - Now reduces damage taken from all sources by 3% for 10 min. In addition, when the target blocks, parries, or dodges a melee attack the target will gain 10 rage, 20 runic power, or 2% of the maximum mana." /hug |
| 16:41.36 | malreth | mmm... that makes it much more useful |
| 16:42.49 | |Jelly| | yup yup |
| 16:43.22 | Anaral | malreth: It shows up in the TaskManager Processes tab, and even when I tried copying MSCONFIG, it still only showed up in the TM, but no window. |
| 16:43.58 | malreth | Anaral: you've probably been hacked and your wow password is being published to the Libyans |
| 16:44.23 | Anaral | *sighs* Yeah yeah. |
| 16:49.21 | Shirik|Ecole | Anaral: What exactly do you need in msconfig? |
| 16:49.29 | Shirik|Ecole | msconfig is probably not the right way to fix it |
| 16:49.32 | Shirik|Ecole | it's the lazy way |
| 16:50.11 | Anaral | Just to see which programs are loading on startup. |
| 16:50.15 | malreth | yeah... use Autoruns from Sysinternals for startup items |
| 16:50.23 | malreth | part of MS now |
| 16:50.34 | Anaral | How do I do that? |
| 16:50.42 | Shirik|Ecole | Or HijackThis, or better yet just go to the registry and take a look :) |
| 16:50.48 | Shirik|Ecole | I think HijackThis is the easiest way to do it tbh |
| 16:50.50 | malreth | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx |
| 16:50.58 | Shirik|Ecole | but sysinternals is awesome |
| 16:51.18 | Arrowmaster | so im heating my pizza in a skillet outside on propane stove |
| 16:51.38 | malreth | i like how Autoruns can filter out MS Corp signed items and verify all publisher certs |
| 16:52.01 | Neuro_Medivh | hijackthis is your best bet |
| 16:53.28 | tem|sleep | BAM! |
| 16:53.37 | Tem | You guys see the DK changes? |
| 16:53.51 | alestane | Which changes? |
| 16:54.10 | malreth | Tem: no. i hate death knights.... death knights killed my parents |
| 16:54.16 | alestane | Has there been another build? |
| 16:54.21 | Tem | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/18/10043224995-upcoming-death-knight-changes.html |
| 16:54.24 | smcn | negative |
| 16:54.51 | Tem | oh man I can't wait |
| 16:54.57 | Neuro_Medivh | yeah, those look good |
| 16:54.58 | Tem | such good changes |
| 16:56.36 | Arrowmaster | hmm refrigerated then unrefrigerated then fried pizza |
| 16:56.42 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:57.42 | alestane | I thought they were *reducing* death kngiht DPS? Although it looks like the ones that got upped are more the "high-powered" abilities. |
| 16:58.26 | Neuro_Medivh | they DID reduce dk dps, severely |
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| 16:59.22 | alestane | Well, one of my friends on beta was clocking his DPS, and his 61 DK was about 2dps under his 70 pally. |
| 16:59.40 | malreth | good |
| 16:59.48 | malreth | that'll put those paladins in their place |
| 16:59.59 | malreth | i hate paladins... paladins killed my parents |
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| 17:05.26 | Fisker- | good malreth|away |
| 17:05.29 | Fisker- | that was what i was aiming for |
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| 17:10.24 | Dashkal | yay, Dks are finally getting buffed back up |
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| 17:12.57 | Tem | Anyone wanna heal Violet Hold? |
| 17:13.04 | Tem | (northrend) |
| 17:14.19 | selckin | eu allience? |
| 17:17.15 | Tem | us |
| 17:25.54 | Thunder_Child | lol, Duckman just came out on dvd |
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| 17:39.57 | cog|work | grrrr... install one teeny component of office (not even one of the main apps) and MS Update insists on downloading every update for that version of office |
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| 17:40.21 | cog|work | i don't need 400 freaking MB of updates for the damned photo editor! |
| 17:40.48 | foxlit | updates are good, mmkay? |
| 17:41.04 | foxlit | (besides, you installed the damned photo editor?) |
| 17:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | My Microsloth downloaded an update and auto restarted my computer while I was at lunch... EATING the download I had in progress. |
| 17:41.07 | cog|work | !mmkay |
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| 17:42.02 | cog|work | foxlit: after office XP, the image control on access forms isn't able to display tif files. I have to install the xp version of the photo editor so that access 03 can show our scanned order forms |
| 17:42.28 | cog|work | and of course, we use access 03 but the rest of office 07, so I get double the pain |
| 17:43.10 | cog|work | and of course we use access ... period... |
| 17:43.54 | foxlit | and of course you used tifs? |
| 17:44.01 | cog|work | tifs are fine |
| 17:44.34 | Thunder_Child | hater |
| 17:44.39 | foxlit | They're... prehistoric? :) |
| 17:45.25 | Dashkal | down with plain text files! |
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| 17:45.43 | foxlit | Burn the RTF! |
| 17:46.13 | cog|work | foxlit: our mass scanning software doesn't do pdf |
| 17:46.25 | cog|work | but really, tif is fine |
| 17:46.33 | Dashkal | actually, I agree about RTF. Thing is rarely used to the standard. |
| 17:46.43 | Jamash | batch convert tif to gif/jpeg/png/whatever? |
| 17:48.00 | cog|work | you have no idea what kind of implications that would have :( |
| 17:48.21 | Neuro_Medivh | nuclear war? global warming? ozone depletion? |
| 17:48.28 | foxlit | chess? |
| 17:49.12 | Jamash | tic-tac-toe? |
| 17:49.14 | cog|work | our database system fits every single criteria listed here: .... where did i put that link.... /me digs |
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| 17:53.06 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:53.20 | Thunder_Child | morning Lunessa |
| 17:53.46 | Lunessa | Just dropping in a for a short bit. |
| 17:54.02 | Thunder_Child | meetings? |
| 17:54.07 | Lopeppeppy | ~hug Lunessa |
| 17:54.08 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Lunessa |
| 17:56.11 | Lunessa | No, I still can't go home. I still can't go to work, and if this keeps up much longer, I won't be able to afford to pay for gas for the trip home. |
| 17:56.30 | Jamash | ouch :( |
| 17:56.38 | Thunder_Child | http://www.torsopants.com/not-funny-shirts/socks-preventing-shoe-babies-for-centuries |
| 17:56.42 | Lunessa | So, I'm trying to remain calm. But it's not working out. |
| 17:57.11 | Neuro_Medivh | hey Lunessa... |
| 17:58.13 | Lunessa | sup? |
| 17:58.31 | Tornhoof | hmm, anyone has an idea what might be wrong if my securehandler buttons work in regen mode, but throw an error at line 780 in restrictedexecution.lua during combat? |
| 17:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Take a look at line 780 in said file? |
| 17:59.45 | Tornhoof | i did and said file says it's a helper method for releasing the restricted environment ;) |
| 17:59.53 | Lunessa | Tornhoof, at the very least it means you're trying to do something you shouldn't in combat., :P |
| 18:01.13 | Neuro_Medivh | Lunessa, have you contacted FEMA yet? |
| 18:01.52 | alestane | Tornhoof: What's the error? |
| 18:02.14 | Lunessa | Neuro_Medivh: Not yet. I don't have a damage assessment. I still have a place to stay and I'm not in immediate danger of anything. I'm just frustrated and anxious. |
| 18:02.28 | foxlit | ah, TI83 |
| 18:02.35 | foxlit | long time no see, you! |
| 18:03.01 | Neuro_Medivh | the graphing calc of millions of freshmen |
| 18:03.21 | Jamash | mmm, calculator programming |
| 18:03.34 | foxlit | meh, BASIC |
| 18:03.52 | Tornhoof | alestane, cannot concenate a nil value |
| 18:03.53 | Dashkal | Heh, I remember coding tron into that thing |
| 18:03.57 | Jamash | Basic? Yikes. My TI-81 had its own language. |
| 18:04.04 | Tornhoof | duh wrong |
| 18:04.06 | alestane | Tornhoof: Unfortunately, right now we have to suspend any errors until your snippet returns, then throw them once you're out of the snippet. The error isn't actually happening there, it's inside your snippet somewhere. |
| 18:04.10 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, they may be able to help you with coming-back-costs? |
| 18:04.10 | Dashkal | Ever try to play a two player game on that thing? |
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| 18:04.16 | Tornhoof | ah ok alestane |
| 18:04.17 | Tornhoof | thanks |
| 18:04.35 | Tornhoof | guess my code does not work like i want then |
| 18:04.36 | foxlit | it's their own dialect of basic, but it's still annoying. |
| 18:04.56 | alestane | My guess is it's something like an attribute call on an unprotected child frame that can't be obtained in combat. |
| 18:04.58 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It's possible. I'll be applying for aid if things go much longer. For now, I'm going to wait. |
| 18:05.03 | foxlit | nevertheless, they got the basic math right, which makes it insanely useful even if you're no longer trying to plot x^2-5 |
| 18:05.48 | Neuro_Medivh | Lunessa, according to fema.gov they can help with housing, unemployment, and lots of other stuff |
| 18:05.51 | Tornhoof | hmm alestane is self:GetParent():IsUnderMouse(true) allowed in combat? |
| 18:06.18 | foxlit | if parent is secure |
| 18:06.25 | foxlit | s/secure/protected/ |
| 18:06.36 | Lunessa | Neuro_Medivh: Yeah, I was checking out the FEMA site earlier. I'll be applying on Friday if nothing else happens. |
| 18:07.10 | alestane | Tornhoof: Is your frame's parent explicitly protected? |
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| 18:07.32 | Neuro_Medivh | I think my brother (who lives in Spring) is still without power |
| 18:07.49 | Neuro_Medivh | and that's almost 100 miles from the coast |
| 18:08.00 | nevcairiel | hmm, can one create secure drag buttons for dragging raid members between groups during combat? |
| 18:08.04 | foxlit | out of interest, is something in place to stop |
| 18:08.11 | nevcairiel | or is that limited to the blizz buttons? |
| 18:08.36 | foxlit | somefontstring:SetWidth(30); secureframe:SetPoint("TOP", somefontstring, "BOTTOM"); |
| 18:08.45 | Tornhoof | hmm lemme see |
| 18:08.49 | alestane | nevcairiel: There's support for secure drag buttons, but AFAIK they're limited to things that can be on the cursor, like spells and items. |
| 18:08.55 | foxlit | somefontstring:SetText("blah blah blah space filling to move the secure frame") |
| 18:09.20 | foxlit | nev: I think you can |
| 18:09.44 | foxlit | It's not so much the dragging as actually performing the swap that I'm concerned about |
| 18:09.56 | Lunessa | Neuro_Medivh: Yes. Power is going on slowly. Several friends have power again, and that makes all the difference for them. There's little to no access to food, gas, or other supplies though. And Galveston is completely shutdown. |
| 18:10.17 | Lopeppeppy | Lines are LONG. |
| 18:10.18 | foxlit | You can register a common wrap header for all of the draggable thing, then set a global ID variable when someone starts dragging, query it when someone stops. |
| 18:10.20 | Tornhoof | alestane, no it's just protected, not explicitely |
| 18:10.57 | foxlit | The question is mostly what you're going to do when you know who you're swapping with whom. |
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| 18:11.25 | alestane | Well, it has to be protected, since it's the parent of a secure frame. But if it's not explicitly protected, you can't query it for things, because it might not have been protected earlier in combat, before you parented to it. |
| 18:11.39 | Neuro_Medivh | oh man... looking at pics of Kemah, it got hosed... that's so sad |
| 18:11.53 | alestane | Tornhoof: What's your parent? Does it change during combat? |
| 18:12.02 | Tornhoof | no it does not |
| 18:12.14 | cog|work | foxlit: Neuro_Medivh: Jamash: finally found the link >< http://davidhayden.com/blog/dave/archive/2005/05/19/1029.aspx |
| 18:12.17 | alestane | Does it change at all? |
| 18:12.45 | cog|work | Our database fits all those "design smells" |
| 18:12.54 | alestane | And is it ever a frame that you did not create? |
| 18:13.49 | Tornhoof | hmm lemme see |
| 18:14.43 | Tornhoof | no does not change, does not use other frames |
| 18:14.50 | Tornhoof | code is here btw: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/96297 |
| 18:15.05 | Tornhoof | my vain attempt to create a popup bar with one button to pop up several other buttons |
| 18:15.27 | Tornhoof | i'm missing the old state stuff |
| 18:16.28 | foxlit | all the [[]] stuff associated with new headers is a conspiracy against code highlighting. |
| 18:16.37 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 18:16.55 | alestane | Tornhoof: Because it was better, or because you already understood it? |
| 18:17.01 | Tornhoof | second |
| 18:17.09 | Tornhoof | and i think for my case the code was simpler ;) |
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| 18:17.30 | Tornhoof | i need a proxy frame to hide/show the buttons together |
| 18:17.48 | Tornhoof | back in 2.0 it was like 5 lines of code ;) |
| 18:18.04 | foxlit | It had a slight advantage of having ONE .lua that described how things work, rather than a multitude of files describing support stuff :) |
| 18:18.13 | Tornhoof | probably i'm missing the whole idea now |
| 18:18.17 | Neuro_Medivh | anyone have a mirror of the background patch? it's crawling on my machine |
| 18:18.26 | ScytheBlade1 | It's supposed to |
| 18:18.30 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 18:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the point of the background downloader :) |
| 18:18.42 | foxlit | You can also uncheck throttling |
| 18:20.25 | alestane | Tornhoof: The button earthHeader? |
| 18:20.55 | Thunder_Child | ok, so i have wow, wow beta, and war all running at the same time....my computer hates me. |
| 18:21.07 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: get Crysis! |
| 18:21.15 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, i have it |
| 18:21.21 | foxlit | :Warhead |
| 18:21.32 | Thunder_Child | is that out yet? |
| 18:21.38 | foxlit | 17 US, 18 World |
| 18:21.50 | Tornhoof | it's a frame derived from SecureHandlerShowHideTemplate, that does not work? |
| 18:22.08 | alestane | Well, any of those should be explicitly protected. |
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| 18:24.35 | Tornhoof | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Header: "..header:IsProtected()) just outputs Header: 1 |
| 18:24.43 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, is the storyline rather short? |
| 18:24.44 | Tornhoof | so no explicit protection there |
| 18:24.58 | foxlit | I'm "World" not "US" :) |
| 18:25.06 | foxlit | And, honestly, I don't know. |
| 18:25.14 | Thunder_Child | it's only $30 |
| 18:25.17 | foxlit | Just saw it while browsing steam earlier |
| 18:25.27 | Thunder_Child | and it doesnt require the first crisis |
| 18:25.33 | foxlit | Wikipedia notes praise for "more than the average amount of content for an expansion" |
| 18:25.36 | alestane | Tornhoof: Change it to DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Header: "..select(2,header:IsProtected())) |
| 18:25.54 | Thunder_Child | and at a cheap price, i'm impressed |
| 18:25.55 | alestane | Explicit protection is the second return. |
| 18:26.40 | Cide | Wikipedia? for reviews? :P |
| 18:26.40 | Dashkal | Ok, if I could ask a total newb question that would better be solved by trying (I'm at work so I can't)... How exactly do I make my shiny new protected frame actually cast the spell? |
| 18:26.59 | foxlit | I'm not dereferencing those comments :) |
| 18:27.28 | foxlit | If you were to repeat this story, it'd be "foxlit said that wikipedia noted..." |
| 18:27.30 | Dashkal | Just use the old attribute method and the wrap functionality provided for my advanced logic? |
| 18:27.33 | Gngsk | dashkal, you mean how do you tell the frame which spell you want it to cast? |
| 18:27.40 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 18:27.42 | Tornhoof | ok my bad then alestane, they are explicitly protected then |
| 18:27.42 | Jamash | secure action button |
| 18:27.47 | foxlit | The SecureTemplate stuff hasn't changed |
| 18:27.54 | alestane | Dashkal: It needs to inherit from SecureActionButtonTemplate, and then needs to have button:SetAtrtibute("type", "spell"), and button:SetAttribute("spell", "whatever spell name you want here"). |
| 18:27.56 | foxlit | It's only the headers that went poof |
| 18:28.16 | Dashkal | kk, danke. I knew I was missing something obvious there. |
| 18:29.16 | Dashkal | If I have this right, since snippets have access to frameHandle:SetAttribute() I can change that spell given the information available to snippets. |
| 18:30.47 | alestane | Yes. |
| 18:31.18 | Dashkal | Sweet. Definitely liking this better than the old headers :p |
| 18:31.31 | alestane | So you can wrap the "OnClick" script of the button and have it set the spell attribute before the button actually executes it. |
| 18:32.20 | Dashkal | Doing a popup action "bar" (actually a radial) where each button after casting its spell hides itself, then changes the center button to whatever it is |
| 18:32.37 | alestane | Yep, you could do something like that. |
| 18:33.07 | Dashkal | The state map for that system was making my brain hurt. Much happier doing this in code :p |
| 18:33.37 | alestane | Tornhoof: What does it say is the thing it's trying to concatenate? Usually they say 'Attempt to concatenate global variable "Blah" (a nil value)' |
| 18:34.28 | Cide | >>> blah.."hi" |
| 18:34.28 | Cide | Cide: [string "return blah.."hi""]:1: attempt to concatenate global 'blah' (a nil value) |
| 18:34.33 | Cide | ^ |
| 18:34.40 | alestane | Like that. |
| 18:35.02 | alestane | local blah; return blah.."hi" |
| 18:35.09 | alestane | >>>local blah; return blah.."hi" |
| 18:35.14 | Cide | >alestane< [string "local blah; return blah.."hi""]:1: attempt to concatenate local 'blah' (a nil value) |
| 18:35.25 | Cide | need to remove that stupid 'feature' |
| 18:35.40 | Tornhoof | hmm looks like i had the wrong error msg, the correct is attempt to index a nil value |
| 18:35.49 | Cide | >>> blah[1] |
| 18:35.49 | Cide | Cide: [string "return blah[1]"]:1: attempt to index global 'blah' (a nil value) |
| 18:35.51 | Tornhoof | same function and line |
| 18:35.52 | alestane | What "feature"? The way it PMs me the error? |
| 18:35.57 | Cide | yep, alestane |
| 18:36.17 | alestane | Tornhoof: VERY different error. |
| 18:36.54 | alestane | Do you know what handler is throwing it? |
| 18:37.32 | alestane | And it doesn't tell you what value is coming out nil that it's trying to index? |
| 18:37.40 | Cide | alestane: try again (shouldn't pm you it now) |
| 18:37.47 | alestane | >>>local blah; return blah.."hi" |
| 18:37.48 | Cide | alestane: [string "local blah; return blah.."hi""]:1: attempt to concatenate local 'blah' (a nil value) |
| 18:37.57 | Cide | /cheer |
| 18:38.00 | alestane | >>>local blah; return blah.hi |
| 18:38.00 | Cide | alestane: [string "local blah; return blah.hi"]:1: attempt to index local 'blah' (a nil value) |
| 18:39.09 | Tornhoof | yes alestane the popupbutton handler (pastey line: 75+, _onenter/_onleae) |
| 18:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 18:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I see a bluetooth phone nearby with OBEX data push enabled |
| 18:39.30 | Tornhoof | if i delete the whole handler it does not throw any error |
| 18:39.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I am *teerribly* tempted to shoot them a copy of astley.. |
| 18:39.55 | Jamash | do eeet |
| 18:40.06 | alestane | Tornhoof: I'm pretty sure it stems from the same error you encountered before. GetChildren and GetParent use the same handler, so they don't work properly in combat. |
| 18:40.24 | alestane | The good news is it gets fixed as soon as the next build goes out. |
| 18:40.32 | Esamynn | EXTRA, EXTRA, Read all about it! Church of England Apologizes to Charles Darwin! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/2910447/Charles-Darwin-to-receive-apology-from-the-Church-of-England-for-rejecting-evolution.html |
| 18:40.39 | Tornhoof | ok |
| 18:40.45 | Jamash | I'm sure he'll be very pleased with that |
| 18:40.51 | alestane | All because of an extra "local". |
| 18:41.17 | Esamynn | sorry, I'm just cracking up over that article |
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| 18:41.46 | alestane | I find it somewhat amusing also. |
| 18:41.57 | Jamash | well they believe in an afterlife so I suppose it makes sense to apologize to a dead man |
| 18:42.43 | Tornhoof | ok thanks alestane, i guess I'll wait for the next build then, and continue elsewhere |
| 18:43.40 | alestane | Tornhoof: I think there is a workaround. |
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| 18:44.48 | kd3 | ok... 24 factions exalted. now what? |
| 18:44.58 | Cide | 25. |
| 18:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 18:45.04 | kd3 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Medivh&n=Kaydeethree |
| 18:45.10 | kd3 | take your pick |
| 18:45.13 | Jamash | you frighten me |
| 18:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Without looking |
| 18:45.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going with MC rep |
| 18:45.34 | Cide | kd3: the aldor |
| 18:45.43 | kd3 | I'm a run and a half away from MC exalted |
| 18:45.46 | kd3 | ~1k rep short |
| 18:46.00 | alestane | Tornhoof: After line 74, insert a line that says "button:Execute([[parent = self:GetParent()]])". Then replace the self:GetParent() references in your handlers with parent. |
| 18:46.00 | Cide | actually, Bloodsail Buccaneers followed by all of Steamwheedle Cartel |
| 18:46.15 | Cide | and then Shen'dralar, Syndicate and Thorium Brotherhood, in order |
| 18:46.18 | Tornhoof | lemme try |
| 18:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Khaldean <-- guy in my guild |
| 18:46.51 | alestane | Tornhoof: Plus, it will execute faster because you won't be calling the function every time. |
| 18:46.53 | Esamynn | damn |
| 18:47.00 | Jamash | is it actually possible to gain syndicate rep? And if so, what does it get you? |
| 18:47.00 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: that guy has too much time on his hands |
| 18:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | He's just about capped with Syndicate rep I think |
| 18:47.32 | alestane | Jamash: Up to a point, and nothing except the ability to complete a couple rogue quests. |
| 18:47.34 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: he's even one of those people who upped his Shen'dralar rep |
| 18:47.36 | Esamynn | jeez |
| 18:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I think armory is slow |
| 18:47.38 | Esamynn | holy crap |
| 18:47.43 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Yoyoma |
| 18:47.46 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's my GM |
| 18:47.51 | Esamynn | those up maxed their Shen'dralar are just insane |
| 18:47.51 | ScytheBlade1 | A pretty similar situation |
| 18:48.09 | Lunessa | They were bored? |
| 18:48.24 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: no, those 2 aren't even close :P |
| 18:48.24 | Tornhoof | yes alestane, that works, thanks |
| 18:48.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: only because the second link spent three months finishing his basement |
| 18:49.00 | Esamynn | yes, well, that's the difference, isn't it? :P |
| 18:49.16 | alestane | Tornhoof: As long as you get the frame handle outside of combat, it'll remain valid as long as the frame is protected. Your old code will work once the build goes active, but I think this way is probably more efficient anyway. |
| 18:49.22 | ScytheBlade1 | There's another person or two guilded who also have nutso reputations |
| 18:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I can remember who |
| 18:49.30 | Esamynn | the difference between a "regular" rep junkie, and a totally insane one is all in their Shen'dralar Reputation |
| 18:49.44 | kd3 | ya. I'm not going anywhere near shen'dralar |
| 18:50.00 | alestane | What raises your Shen'dralar rep? |
| 18:50.00 | Cide | Esamynn: and also |
| 18:50.08 | kd3 | turning in tomes in DM |
| 18:50.09 | Lunessa | I mean, sheeze... how many damned trinkets do you need from Dire Maul. |
| 18:50.19 | alestane | And that's it? |
| 18:50.20 | Cide | someone who's 999/1000 with all of Steamwheedle, but has the pirate hat |
| 18:50.24 | Esamynn | alestane: that's it |
| 18:50.27 | Esamynn | that's the only thing |
| 18:50.39 | alestane | Then yeah, that borders on the clinically insane. |
| 18:50.41 | Esamynn | Cide: that too |
| 18:51.08 | Esamynn | alestane: borders on? |
| 18:51.38 | Esamynn | I'd say that is *serious* OCD |
| 18:51.42 | Esamynn | imho |
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| 18:53.50 | Tornhoof | thanks, alestane, you saved me again hours of fiddling with 5 lines of code (or rather hours of trying different useless combinations) |
| 18:54.17 | alestane | No problem, I'm really hating that bug...it was just a /headdesk moment. |
| 18:55.31 | malreth|away | did you know that if you drink enough listerine... you can get high? |
| 18:56.02 | alestane | That and the fact that a fix was submitted very quickly, but people keep reporting it for the week and change between the fix being submitted and actually appearing in a build. |
| 18:58.01 | Tornhoof | ah well atleast i wasn't the only one running into it ;) |
| 18:59.28 | alestane | Actually, mostly I was the other one running into it, as I tried to make an action bar that changes pages while a particular key (not shift, ctrl or alt) is held down. |
| 19:00.05 | alestane | So for instance, you hold a side button on your mouse, and your bar changes pages. |
| 19:00.46 | alestane | Then changes back when you let it go. |
| 19:02.38 | steezo | does anyone know if theres an event fired when the player's "mouseover" target is removed? Kind of like the opposite of UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT |
| 19:03.43 | Shirik | oi |
| 19:03.47 | Esamynn | steezo: just another UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT I believe |
| 19:03.53 | Shirik | coming back to desktop computer after everyone was talking to you on your laptop :( |
| 19:03.56 | Shirik | every channel has a ping in it :( |
| 19:04.06 | Esamynn | heh |
| 19:04.26 | steezo | Esamynn: it doesn't fire until i mouseover another unit, like a "mousein" kind of thing |
| 19:04.30 | steezo | no "mouseout" |
| 19:04.40 | Esamynn | really? huh, I didn't realize that |
| 19:04.59 | steezo | it does fire when i right click on a unit though...strangely |
| 19:05.34 | Shirik | I believe that's intentional |
| 19:05.40 | Shirik | because if you're mousing over a unit that's constantly moving |
| 19:05.48 | Shirik | if it moves out of your cursor you still have the target you're good |
| 19:05.54 | Shirik | not sure though :) It makes sense to me though |
| 19:06.15 | Shirik | no that can't be it |
| 19:06.17 | kamdis | Esamynn: A guild mate of mine is over half way to Exalted with Shen'dralar |
| 19:06.20 | Shirik | because the target is cleared |
| 19:06.32 | Shirik | steezo: OnUpdate check UnitName"mouseover" |
| 19:06.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ~failrik |
| 19:06.45 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:06.56 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:07.02 | Shirik | I see no events firing from leaving the mouseover target, though, steev |
| 19:07.04 | Shirik | steezo* |
| 19:07.11 | Shirik | judging from DT |
| 19:07.23 | steezo | :( |
| 19:07.36 | kd3 | whee, they reset beta char copy |
| 19:07.44 | alestane | Again? |
| 19:07.55 | kd3 | when was the last time they did it? |
| 19:07.55 | Shirik | wait so I can get even more? :D |
| 19:08.02 | alestane | Last week I think. |
| 19:08.14 | kd3 | ah. it's been a few weeks since I looked |
| 19:08.27 | alestane | I've had two full rounds of character copy since Beta started. |
| 19:09.48 | malreth | half-hour old news: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/group-posts-e-m.html |
| 19:09.59 | Shirik | how to kick someone from a chat channel? |
| 19:10.15 | Tornhoof | remotely switching my computer on from work, to log into the ptr queue , so when i get home i'm most likely in my char screen ;) |
| 19:10.16 | malreth | ~kick |
| 19:10.26 | alestane | "The internet griefers known as Anonymous"? |
| 19:10.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: in wow? ckick also /chat for chat commands |
| 19:10.36 | Shirik | thanks NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:10.48 | Jamash | I love how nobody in the media knows how to describe Anonymous |
| 19:10.57 | Jamash | it's a group that's not a group |
| 19:14.31 | kd3 | whee. 184/672, 1945 points just for copying |
| 19:15.50 | Shirik | points? |
| 19:15.55 | kd3 | achievement |
| 19:15.58 | Shirik | ah |
| 19:16.21 | bleeter | kd3: I think I've been banned form the beta forum for my moan yesterday about Prestor |
| 19:16.32 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 19:16.35 | Shirik | I love our mail system's vulnerabilities |
| 19:16.37 | bleeter | kd3: can't tell 'coz I ain't got no email or stuffs |
| 19:16.51 | kd3 | lol. they not letting you log in? |
| 19:16.57 | bleeter | nope |
| 19:17.02 | bleeter | perm suspended for spamming/trolling |
| 19:17.08 | kd3 | oof |
| 19:17.17 | Lopeppeppy | ttfn, peoples! |
| 19:17.19 | bleeter | and that prestor thing's the only thing I can think of |
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| 19:18.32 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/53d4d67dfdd0acbcd8e7b5df074d45fb.jpg |
| 19:19.09 | Cide | owned |
| 19:19.45 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:19.47 | Jamash | ha |
| 19:20.09 | Shirik | Ok, so at my school we have all these different lots to park in, right? Well, this year they converted one of our lots "Tomcat" which was a student lot with about 200 spaces into an employee-only lot |
| 19:20.23 | Shirik | Not to mention that students already have 0.7 spots per student on campus, and employees have 1.25 spots per employee |
| 19:20.29 | Shirik | So now I get this email |
| 19:20.43 | Shirik | "Due to the new Aviation Building construction, University Construction and Planning has requested that Campus Safety close the Tomcat and Eagle North parking lots on 9/18/08." |
| 19:20.51 | Shirik | We already have nowhere to park, and now they're taking away all our parking |
| 19:21.04 | Shirik | they expect us to park on the roof? |
| 19:21.11 | Cide | why not? |
| 19:21.14 | Esamynn | Shirik: take da bus |
| 19:21.21 | Cide | or walk |
| 19:21.27 | Shirik | f that |
| 19:21.29 | Cide | you lazy bum |
| 19:21.31 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:21.41 | Shirik | I love my phone. TORNADO WARNING has been issued for 32114. |
| 19:21.47 | Shirik | where did this come from |
| 19:21.50 | Shirik | brb |
| 19:21.53 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:22.00 | malreth | Shirik: GTFO of there!!!! |
| 19:22.00 | Cide | walk away! |
| 19:22.06 | malreth | tornadoes will fuck your shit up! |
| 19:22.32 | Shirik | no, see I don't have a brick building |
| 19:22.34 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 19:22.45 | malreth | are you wearing a helmet? |
| 19:22.54 | Shirik | I have a hard head |
| 19:22.55 | Shirik | does that count? |
| 19:23.05 | malreth | helmets save lives |
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| 19:23.49 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 19:23.52 | Shirik | where did that storm come from |
| 19:24.03 | Shirik | I live in daytona beach: http://www.accuweather.com/radar-local.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&zipChg=1&zipcode=32114&level=local&anim=0&type=re2&site=KJAX |
| 19:24.10 | Shirik | the only place in a million miles that has any kind of rain |
| 19:24.12 | Shirik | and it's dark red |
| 19:28.35 | cladhaire | (forwarding the idea) Let's rickroll MTV Europe Music Awards: nominate Rick Astley as the best Act at the bottom of http://ema.mtv.co.uk/vote/#_ |
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| 19:33.09 | Kaso | done and done |
| 19:34.41 | malreth | aye, done |
| 19:36.30 | Esamynn | cladhaire: lol |
| 19:36.49 | cladhaire | was posted in my realm's IRC channel |
| 19:36.51 | cladhaire | not my idea :P |
| 19:37.05 | Esamynn | your realm has an IRC channel? |
| 19:37.07 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:37.13 | Industrial | we have an irc ahnnel? |
| 19:37.24 | cladhaire | yes, of course |
| 19:37.25 | Industrial | actually, grim batol and vashj have one so why not >_> |
| 19:37.28 | cladhaire | quakenet, #ravencrest |
| 19:37.28 | Industrial | and kazzak prolly too etc |
| 19:37.30 | cladhaire | nublets |
| 19:37.32 | Kaso | realm irc channels are the best, so you can shout at people who gank you (or taunt people you gank) |
| 19:37.58 | Shirik | "best act ever"? |
| 19:38.03 | Industrial | Kaso: and every 2 mins someone comes in wanting some other horde/alliance to relay a "fuck you buddy" message. |
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| 19:38.37 | Fisker- | cladhaire is a spy |
| 19:38.37 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 19:38.42 | Fisker- | you online btw? |
| 19:38.45 | cladhaire | "Can someone tell XXX to stop ganking me and shit!" |
| 19:38.47 | cladhaire | yes |
| 19:38.49 | cladhaire | come kill me |
| 19:38.52 | Kaso | Heh |
| 19:38.54 | Fisker- | where you at? |
| 19:38.58 | cladhaire | shatt imo |
| 19:39.05 | Kaso | usually i whisper xxx and tell them to keep on ganking yyy |
| 19:39.24 | cladhaire | actually porting to SW |
| 19:39.25 | Industrial | Fisker-: you play horde on ravencrest :O? |
| 19:39.30 | kd3 | heh, whoops. died on beta flying out to netherwing... released too early, died again |
| 19:39.35 | kd3 | now I've got a res timer |
| 19:39.54 | cladhaire | i need to chant my weap |
| 19:40.04 | Industrial | spellpower \o/ |
| 19:40.08 | cladhaire | but that involves doing dailies |
| 19:40.11 | Fisker- | yeah Industrial |
| 19:40.14 | Fisker- | of course i do |
| 19:40.17 | Industrial | Fisker-: the enemy! |
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| 19:40.29 | Industrial | im leveling my drood there. 48 now |
| 19:40.36 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 19:40.37 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:40.42 | Industrial | ho-shii |
| 19:40.43 | Industrial | :3 |
| 19:41.01 | Fisker- | you online Industrial ? |
| 19:41.18 | Industrial | not atm, just logged out *logs in* |
| 19:41.20 | Industrial | <-- Seryan |
| 19:41.26 | NeoTron | I went on a flight in icecrown (specifically I explored the whole thing) |
| 19:41.28 | NeoTron | it's huge |
| 19:41.45 | NeoTron | I knew the zones were bigger but it's not until I actually fly around them that I realize how large they are |
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| 19:41.55 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 19:41.56 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:41.57 | NeoTron | the scale there is amazing - buildings feel positively huge |
| 19:42.04 | Fisker- | where you leveling Industrial ? |
| 19:42.07 | NeoTron | ~pong |
| 19:42.08 | purl | ~ping |
| 19:42.43 | Industrial | eheheh |
| 19:42.58 | Industrial | feralas |
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| 19:43.07 | Industrial | i bet you play paladin |
| 19:43.09 | Industrial | =D |
| 19:43.24 | Industrial | and/org mae |
| 19:43.26 | Industrial | mage |
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| 19:44.39 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 19:44.40 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:47.08 | NightHawkTheSane | damn, they really utilize phasing/visibility changes in the dun niffelem quest line |
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| 19:48.16 | Fisker- | Industrial paladin of course |
| 19:48.40 | Industrial | ha ha i knew it |
| 19:48.43 | cladhaire | hah |
| 19:49.46 | Fisker- | i was a rogue earlier |
| 19:50.02 | NeoTron | Fisker-: then you decided to play the new top of the line melee class? |
| 19:50.05 | Fisker- | but the CM arrogance was mind boggling and rerolled pala at launch |
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| 19:50.26 | Fisker- | NeoTron nah healer |
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| 19:57.25 | NightHawkTheSane | woo. level 80. |
| 19:58.22 | Fisker- | owld |
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| 20:00.42 | Dashkal | (Warning: Politics). This should be interesting: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2972401/Tony-Blair-to-appear-on-Jon-Stewarts-Daily-Show.html |
| 20:02.27 | Fisker- | oh Industrial |
| 20:02.27 | Neuro_Medivh | Daily show is best when they aren't a shill for the dems |
| 20:02.30 | Fisker- | where are youuuuu? |
| 20:04.08 | Industrial | Fisker-: why do you want to gank me :p |
| 20:05.08 | Fisker- | why would i gank you? |
| 20:05.39 | Industrial | fine, feralas horde town |
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| 20:06.07 | Fisker- | why would an alliance be in the horde town? :o |
| 20:06.16 | Industrial | >:D |
| 20:06.29 | Industrial | nah im just going there, in that direction |
| 20:06.29 | Fisker- | i am being deceived |
| 20:06.46 | Industrial | from the alliance town :> |
| 20:11.07 | Industrial | yay lol |
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| 20:12.11 | Industrial | pewpewstunned :. |
| 20:12.32 | Fisker- | almost had me there |
| 20:12.53 | Industrial | ;> |
| 20:14.07 | Fisker- | almost killed cladhaire once |
| 20:14.12 | cladhaire | orly? |
| 20:14.17 | Fisker- | but then my internet went out :I |
| 20:14.20 | cladhaire | hah |
| 20:14.22 | Fisker- | and then i was dead |
| 20:14.58 | Industrial | so clad |
| 20:15.01 | Industrial | how does healkin work |
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| 20:15.32 | Industrial | you just swarm and stay alive? :p |
| 20:15.46 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 20:15.52 | cladhaire | you just heal, period |
| 20:16.08 | cladhaire | you shouldn't even consider a spec like that until 70 |
| 20:16.25 | cladhaire | and even then resto is better cause of tree |
| 20:16.32 | cladhaire | btu i had to get epic ff which meant i needed to nuke :P |
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| 20:16.48 | Fisker- | holy paladins are pretty nice as holy for leveling actually |
| 20:16.48 | Industrial | er, but whats the kin got to do with the resto then |
| 20:16.49 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 20:16.56 | Industrial | pvp survivability? |
| 20:17.05 | cladhaire | Industrial: dreamstate/intensity |
| 20:17.06 | Fisker- | but only because you have a billion spell damage now |
| 20:17.10 | cladhaire | and the armor is really nice |
| 20:18.12 | foxlit | dreamstate is a kick in the groin! |
| 20:18.36 | foxlit | Intensity is a lower-tier talent and yields more regen. Sad. |
| 20:19.18 | cladhaire | and yet together, they're nice for a druid with ghetto gear |
| 20:19.40 | cladhaire | <- druid with ghetto gear |
| 20:19.46 | Fisker- | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/10043165397-upcoming-change-blizzard-eventcollectors-e.html <->.3 |
| 20:19.47 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 20:19.59 | foxlit | <- retired balance druid in T6 |
| 20:20.19 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 20:20.23 | Fisker- | btw i suggested that!1 |
| 20:20.30 | Fisker- | "omg blizzard listens to feedback" |
| 20:20.31 | foxlit | win. |
| 20:20.45 | Fisker- | though obviously i suggested it when it was first announced |
| 20:20.56 | foxlit | I can have Tyrael follow my death knight around |
| 20:21.06 | foxlit | Can only imagine the judging stares from the archangel :( |
| 20:21.49 | NeoTron | I'm disappointed not to see any "alternate talent spec" feature yet :( |
| 20:22.09 | NeoTron | one of the most fun and, frankly, nice and awesome, things in beta is the ability to respec as needed and at will |
| 20:22.11 | foxlit | I don't think they really want to. |
| 20:22.25 | foxlit | You can respec as needed and at will on live. |
| 20:22.27 | NeoTron | I hate the whole "50g lolol" crap |
| 20:22.37 | NeoTron | no you can't |
| 20:22.42 | NeoTron | 50g removes "at will" |
| 20:22.55 | NeoTron | I won't respec to tank a 5-man only to spec back to solo spec afterwards, spending 100g |
| 20:23.45 | foxlit | Meh, nor would you actually have to. |
| 20:24.07 | NeoTron | sure you do |
| 20:24.25 | NeoTron | you can't expect to tank a heroic without specific tank talents unless you severely outgear the instance |
| 20:25.21 | foxlit | I'm mainly pointing at the DK trees and their ability to mix tanking and normal talents decently |
| 20:25.49 | NeoTron | you need tank talents to tank heroic / raids |
| 20:25.58 | NeoTron | and you won't be great / optimal dps with tank talents |
| 20:26.07 | NeoTron | I know you can do either reasonbly well don't get me wrong |
| 20:26.19 | NeoTron | not like you're a BC prot warrior with tank spec |
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| 20:26.39 | foxlit | Not like BC prot warriors are going to exist in 2 months |
| 20:27.49 | Duman | wotlk prot warriors are crazy right now |
| 20:27.53 | Duman | crazy fun, too |
| 20:28.04 | Duman | if things stay the way they are, I'll be prot for pvp ;-) |
| 20:29.21 | foxlit | Allowing people to choose between multiple optimal specs at no cost sort of removes the whole aspect of... specialization. |
| 20:29.54 | NeoTron | foxlit: just two |
| 20:29.57 | NeoTron | like they said they would |
| 20:30.12 | NeoTron | and it would make the game... <fear this> more fun! |
| 20:30.49 | foxlit | removing decisions == removing fun. |
| 20:30.55 | cladhaire | why would a rogue.. garrotte a druid |
| 20:30.58 | cladhaire | i mean, seriously |
| 20:31.31 | Industrial | nah its not removing decisions |
| 20:31.38 | Industrial | its adding options. |
| 20:31.49 | foxlit | It's a bleed and a silence? Armor doesn't mitigate bleeds :) |
| 20:31.54 | Industrial | its not making me spend 100g whenever i need 2 fucking mats on my resto sham |
| 20:32.06 | foxlit | That's not how they're fixing that issue |
| 20:32.47 | foxlit | You won't _have_ to respec when you need to farm some level 80 mobs, really. |
| 20:32.58 | Neuro_Medivh | I'd like to see a secondary spec that is only available in raid groups |
| 20:33.09 | End | my annoyance is when raiding, I don't get to pick up any fun stuff |
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| 20:33.52 | foxlit | They're also trying to fix that -- if you've got some fun stuff that you're missing out on because of the required stuff, I'd post a thread on the beta forums |
| 20:34.23 | Neuro_Medivh | hoping for a new build tonight |
| 20:35.10 | Duman | yes, plz |
| 20:35.18 | NeoTron | foxlit: there are many cases where you have to respec |
| 20:35.23 | End | foxlit: they won't change that |
| 20:35.44 | foxlit | Depends on what "that" is :) |
| 20:35.48 | NeoTron | one example from live where I am forced to spend lots of gold or be subpar is tankign eredar twins/illidan (can't have nether protection) vs m'uru/KJ (should have NP) |
| 20:35.59 | foxlit | If you're missing out on super awesome chain lightning because you have to heal, well, tough :) |
| 20:36.08 | NeoTron | and there will ALWAYS be a different spec between pvp and pve (raiding) |
| 20:36.11 | NeoTron | period |
| 20:36.18 | Industrial | well shammy resto raiding spec is pretty easy |
| 20:36.23 | Industrial | first you take every resto talent |
| 20:36.26 | Industrial | then you are done |
| 20:36.37 | foxlit | NeoTron: whine about the design of NP, then |
| 20:36.38 | Neuro_Medivh | that's not true! |
| 20:36.42 | Neuro_Medivh | sometimes you take AK =) |
| 20:36.44 | Industrial | so true! |
| 20:36.46 | Industrial | haha |
| 20:36.54 | End | I wish I could pick up improved howl of terror, for example (which has practically no use for raiding), but I'm basically having to balance dps talent 1, dps talent 2, and fun talent 1. |
| 20:36.57 | Industrial | but AK is poop |
| 20:36.59 | Industrial | >_> |
| 20:37.07 | Industrial | like, even hsielf would be better :P |
| 20:37.11 | End | I won't even get all the dps talents |
| 20:37.12 | Industrial | shield* |
| 20:37.22 | End | let alone fun random ass pvp talents sprinkled around |
| 20:37.36 | Neuro_Medivh | there was a thread a few months back on the shaman forums, a long in-depth debate about taking Totem Mastery or Ancestral Knowledge |
| 20:37.52 | End | making a post won't do any good, unless you think posting "/signed" is useful |
| 20:40.11 | foxlit | "making a post won't do any good" < Yes, let's not tell them why we're unhappy, and that'll surely fix everything :) |
| 20:40.28 | End | someone already made a post :P |
| 20:40.40 | End | I don't really have much to add to it |
| 20:41.21 | foxlit | Meh, constructive trolling 102: |
| 20:41.51 | foxlit | If you've found a post that you think expresses everything you say, post an in-depth reply detailing how much you agree with it. |
| 20:41.57 | NeoTron | foxlit: NP is fixed in LK but it's not the point |
| 20:42.05 | NeoTron | foxlit: and I'm sure you know it's not the point |
| 20:42.20 | Duman | heh |
| 20:42.28 | foxlit | I'm not sure if you realize that there's a point there. |
| 20:42.58 | End | I'm not sure how helpful it is to rewrite what they wrote in my own words. I don't have all day to post on the forums. :P |
| 20:43.03 | foxlit | It's that that talent was a problem causing a disproportionate amount of grief to people constantly speccing into/out of it. It was fixed. |
| 20:43.03 | End | And it's not that I don't post. |
| 20:43.08 | End | there's other shit I want fixed |
| 20:43.17 | End | stuff that doesn't get as well covered |
| 20:43.21 | End | and I post about that instead |
| 20:43.36 | End | for example WTB way to get my pet to jump to me :X |
| 20:43.48 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.52 | End | hehe |
| 20:43.59 | foxlit | End: as long as you bump the thread while looking reasonably good, you win more CM airtime :) |
| 20:44.16 | Industrial | jump to you? |
| 20:44.25 | Industrial | like, /petfollow? |
| 20:44.33 | End | if there's a path, a pet will take it |
| 20:44.37 | End | instead of jumping |
| 20:44.50 | End | even if it's a very long path, as long as it isn't TOO long |
| 20:44.54 | Jamash | aka "pull an entire instance worth of mobs instead of jumping" |
| 20:44.57 | End | yeah |
| 20:44.59 | End | like to rend :P |
| 20:45.00 | Neuro_Medivh | you tell it to stay then |
| 20:45.04 | Duman | that's always fun |
| 20:45.11 | Industrial | before you jump, dismiss and recall |
| 20:45.16 | End | yeah, that sucks |
| 20:45.19 | Jamash | yeah well that sucks for warlocks |
| 20:45.19 | foxlit | Doesn't quite work for warlocks |
| 20:45.21 | End | I don't want to spend 10 seconds |
| 20:45.26 | End | to resummon |
| 20:45.36 | foxlit | But hey, the balcony jump isn't the only way to Rend's room :) |
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| 20:45.53 | End | true, I mean, you could just follow the path your pets take ;-p |
| 20:46.10 | Industrial | then L2stealthpet or go DM for fast summon ;P |
| 20:46.35 | Industrial | (specifically, imp :D) |
| 20:46.51 | Jamash | it would be nice if 'locks had an Unsummon that returned a shard without having to do the "stay and run out of range" trick |
| 20:46.53 | End | affliction is built around felhunter now |
| 20:47.13 | End | destro, yeah, you can just tell him to phase....succy...you might get away with invis? |
| 20:47.20 | End | I dunno, mobs might be able to see through invis |
| 20:47.28 | Jamash | 'cause sometimes you don't have room in an instance to do the range trick |
| 20:47.29 | Industrial | End: really in wotlk? *inspects the talents* |
| 20:47.54 | End | felhunter gets enough regen via fel bite |
| 20:48.11 | End | which does more damage to dotted targets and gives mana to fel hunter based on damage done |
| 20:48.34 | End | so by dotting a target, your fel hunter has enough mana so you can dark pact |
| 20:48.38 | End | destro is imp based now |
| 20:48.42 | End | his crits make you crit more |
| 20:48.47 | End | or something like that |
| 20:49.15 | steezo | imp crit = next destro spell is 100% crit within 8 seconds or something like that |
| 20:49.27 | End | yeah, something like that |
| 20:50.18 | Jamash | I am so glad they're making imp corruption base |
| 20:50.24 | End | yeah me too |
| 20:50.47 | Industrial | hm nice |
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| 20:51.05 | steezo | warlocks are so broken on current ptr build :( |
| 20:51.37 | alestane | I would rather have had Improved Corruption give the spell something that made it worth the 2-second cast besides more damage, but meh. Everyone can rejoice if they want. |
| 20:51.45 | End | I prefer the word flawed over broken. it's a playable class, but there's issues :P |
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| 20:51.56 | Jamash | my lock is only level 46 :( |
| 20:52.03 | Industrial | alestane: but with another talent your corruption gets refreshed. |
| 20:52.06 | Jamash | gotta get him up to 70 before wrath hits |
| 20:52.22 | alestane | We're still waiting on the build that supposed to address some of those, like Metamorphosis. |
| 20:52.30 | Industrial | me too, but my druid first >_> |
| 20:52.35 | End | I played around with demo |
| 20:52.38 | steezo | and not being able to put points into devastation :( |
| 20:52.43 | Industrial | my lock is 54 now |
| 20:52.49 | End | I was pretty much like meh |
| 20:52.59 | alestane | Industrial: That's true, if you're deep affliction. I'm 21/45/5 and planning to stay that way. |
| 20:53.02 | End | I kept going into metamorphasis on accident though :P |
| 20:53.22 | End | I had it bound to what was my haunt key :P |
| 20:54.09 | Jamash | I'd love to spec demonology just for the cool factor but I'm addicted to affliction |
| 20:54.56 | alestane | But say we switched Fel Concentration and Improved Corruption, and changed Imp. Corruption to 5% healing received reduction per rank. |
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| 20:55.50 | Jamash | they should get rid of CoEx and give locks a healing debuff curse |
| 20:56.00 | End | eh |
| 20:56.47 | End | although, I stopped speccing into coex as of this last build, since it's only 30% again, and I have too many other talent points. |
| 20:57.02 | End | (and amplify is of no help anymore, of course) |
| 20:57.22 | Jamash | yeah that's what I'm talking about, if it's not gonna be 50% it's not worth it |
| 20:58.22 | End | I need to hit 80 though, so I can see demonic circle for myself |
| 20:58.39 | End | I'm guessing it's going to be pretty much an arena and boss fight tool only though |
| 20:58.55 | Jamash | copy a premade lock |
| 20:59.00 | Pytlask | should be nice in pretty much any PvP |
| 20:59.01 | End | I could |
| 20:59.07 | End | but I'm almost 80 ;-p |
| 20:59.14 | Jamash | ah, well then |
| 20:59.31 | Jamash | I'm too lazy to level on beta |
| 20:59.50 | End | Pytlask: not that much, since you have to set it up too (I'm not sure how'd they make that less of an issue though) |
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| 21:00.12 | End | unless you can setup at range or something, but I think it just sets up where you stand |
| 21:00.24 | Pytlask | Imagine: You set it up on top floor of WSG room. Pick up the flag. Teleport. Nobody knows where you went |
| 21:00.35 | End | LoS |
| 21:00.48 | End | LoS is gonna be a big problem with it I think |
| 21:01.07 | End | (er...you do need LoS, don't you? I'm not sure now that I think about it...) |
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| 21:01.34 | End | what the |
| 21:01.42 | End | it's labeled as rank 1 |
| 21:01.51 | NeoTron | are you able to teleport with the flag? |
| 21:01.56 | End | maybe |
| 21:02.00 | End | you can blink with the flag |
| 21:02.05 | NeoTron | fair enough |
| 21:02.06 | End | and it has a limited range |
| 21:02.10 | NeoTron | I don't think it needs LoS though |
| 21:02.15 | End | I'm not sure |
| 21:02.17 | Pytlask | On beta doesn't need LoS currently |
| 21:02.26 | NeoTron | otherwise it'd be just a weaker version of blink |
| 21:02.33 | End | oh, it doesn't? that's good |
| 21:02.40 | NeoTron | having no LoS requirement still makes it kind of a weaker version of Blink btu at least with a bonus |
| 21:02.51 | Pytlask | hmm, could also be nice for multifloor caves. Just set it up on top so when you finish up getting whatever you need you just teleport |
| 21:03.06 | End | LoS would be kinda crippling though, since you couldn't go uphill :P |
| 21:03.14 | End | (not go uphill...sounds like blink!) |
| 21:03.35 | End | that's good though |
| 21:03.39 | End | I thought LoS was an issue |
| 21:03.41 | End | but I guess not |
| 21:04.31 | NeoTron | Pytlask: not a bad idea for solo use :P |
| 21:04.41 | End | yeah |
| 21:04.48 | NeoTron | range is only 40 yrd though I think |
| 21:04.51 | End | of course, you'll be 80 anyways ;-p |
| 21:04.53 | End | yeah, it is |
| 21:04.56 | NeoTron | a bit short for a level 80 "teleport to one spot" spell |
| 21:05.11 | NeoTron | it's sort of lacking omph |
| 21:05.14 | End | I agree. |
| 21:05.37 | Industrial | hm. I dont understand improved stormstrike for shaman. its more a raid talent? |
| 21:05.53 | Pytlask | I imagine great world PvP uses for it. E.g. jump off of a small cliff, they follow you, you just teleport back up |
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| 21:06.06 | Industrial | can barely get 2 earth shocks off for one stormstrike to consume both debuffs, and in raids you use 1 flam 1 earch shock anyway |
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| 21:06.28 | Industrial | so why have MORE debuffs and more frequent stormstrikes if the 2.6 speed rotation already works? |
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| 21:09.44 | [dRaCo] | less CD, more damage |
| 21:13.32 | [dRaCo] | more debuffs are for raid utility, though, yeah |
| 21:15.03 | Industrial | but also -2sec on SS will it not gimp the SS+WF, normal, normal+wf, normal wepswing rotation? |
| 21:16.14 | [dRaCo] | seems like Blizz is trying to get shamans away from dual WF anyway... |
| 21:16.22 | Industrial | ss+wf, normal, normal+wf, ss, normal+wf, normal then I guess :P |
| 21:17.05 | [dRaCo] | probably, yeah |
| 21:17.34 | Industrial | hm I really dont knw much about enhancement :P I'll go play it to level tho I guess |
| 21:17.44 | Industrial | hmmm or elemental :P |
| 21:17.55 | [dRaCo] | I'd go for enhancement |
| 21:18.06 | [dRaCo] | zero downtime once you got shamanistic rage |
| 21:18.17 | Industrial | yea |
| 21:18.22 | Industrial | and imp shields now too |
| 21:18.50 | [dRaCo] | from what I currently heard, most people don't think it's worth the points |
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| 21:20.52 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?characterId=93357435581&sid=1 /sigh |
| 21:21.09 | cog|work | someone needs a forum vacation |
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| 21:21.34 | bleeter | cog|work: thanks, I already got one of them! :P |
| 21:21.42 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: troll less |
| 21:23.11 | bleeter | meh, metzen deserved the troll. after screwing up lore for BC... |
| 21:23.12 | Dashkal | damn... I want my tv showing... |
| 21:23.27 | bleeter | .. you'd think he'd be capable of not screwing up this time |
| 21:23.37 | cog|work | bleeter: l2retcon |
| 21:25.11 | bleeter | hardly a retcon if they're removing Ony attunement, removing NPCs from that... heck, may as well close down Blackrock mountain |
| 21:25.31 | bleeter | and half of the defias foo |
| 21:25.34 | alestane | The disappearance of Prestor and the return of Stormwind's king is not a retcon, it is a plot advancement. |
| 21:25.53 | Dashkal | bleeter: Ony attunement was broken and they'd rather release than push things back to fix it. Wait for 3.1 |
| 21:26.08 | Nechckn | Beware of the bleeter, he'll get you banned from the Blizz forums! |
| 21:26.38 | Dashkal | If they get lazy and decide not to fix it at all, then by all means complain (and I'll be there with you) |
| 21:26.43 | bleeter | I'd be happy if there's some ingame event explaining foo on release |
| 21:27.15 | bleeter | Dashkal: well, folks had been asking for ages. yesterday, they say 'this is all gone, we'll try and fix it for wrath, but no promises' |
| 21:27.33 | zenzelezz | well you'd think that after being exposed every week for two years she'd figure it was time to move |
| 21:27.36 | bleeter | and 'not at launch'... sounds like it's like to have completely gone for all the release |
| 21:27.46 | Dashkal | My statement applies. They didn't want to spend resources making it work for 3.0. Seems reasonable |
| 21:28.27 | Dashkal | It's not a small task. That quest line is huge and doesn't work in the current timeline. It'll have to be rewritten. |
| 21:28.46 | bleeter | just a bummer missing out on all that Rep |
| 21:29.28 | bleeter | has anyone actually done the defias chains in Wrath? Do they work by heading out to Northrend for the Bolvar handins? |
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| 21:30.16 | bleeter | bah, didn'yt realise kd3 weren't in.. gunna repost my Q |
| 21:30.19 | Dashkal | I should check that... I had the unsent letter but I discarded it before trying to finish the quest. |
| 21:30.20 | bleeter | kd3: has anyone actually done the defias chains in Wrath? Do they work by heading out to Northrend for the Bolvar handins? |
| 21:30.43 | kd3 | no clue |
| 21:30.49 | kd3 | suppose I could have my DK do it |
| 21:31.00 | cladhaire | Fisker-: doing SSO dailies :P |
| 21:31.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ooh, t7 gloves.. |
| 21:31.40 | bleeter | would be funny as hell if Bolvar won't take it |
| 21:32.13 | kd3 | I expect he won't... he's got a different ID |
| 21:32.17 | bleeter | yup |
| 21:32.54 | bleeter | alestane: I understand plot advancement, but this feels like going from Episode 1 to Episode 3 witha promise that *maybe* we might get to see Episode 2 at some later stage, but no promise ;) |
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| 21:33.52 | End | besides the comic books making be back, is there any other reason the king is back? |
| 21:34.01 | End | I mean, do the players have any reason to interact with him? |
| 21:34.14 | End | or is it just overreaching storyline? |
| 21:34.30 | NightHawkTheSane | well, there's the DK quest that has you go to the king... >.> |
| 21:34.36 | End | oh |
| 21:34.37 | End | well |
| 21:34.41 | End | there you go...I guess? :P |
| 21:34.48 | bleeter | End: yup, I wanna see part of that comic ingame |
| 21:34.56 | bleeter | hence, I'm hoping for some part of the event pre-launch |
| 21:35.25 | End | probably at the same time orgrimmar apparently gets razed ;-p |
| 21:36.05 | Kajas | Is it possible to have a FontString to auto-size itself based on what text it is displaying, and then retrieving that size? Such as a dynamic FontString that you later want to encapsulate in a HitRectInset.. |
| 21:36.49 | NeoTron | hrm. how many blizzard employees are lurking here anyway? :P |
| 21:37.05 | End | finally finish the abom blowing up quest...apparently you have to have the abom hit the trolls before blowing up |
| 21:38.14 | cladhaire | so |
| 21:38.16 | cladhaire | this is the best thing |
| 21:38.17 | cladhaire | IN THE WORLD |
| 21:38.17 | cladhaire | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ebf0bb41208b9a72e19abac00fa93136.gif |
| 21:38.44 | End | lol |
| 21:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I am a *terrible* person |
| 21:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | 100% just plain bad |
| 21:39.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm totally writing a script that scans for nearby bluetooth phones with OBEX push enabled |
| 21:39.15 | ScytheBlade1 | And then send them 30 seconds of astley |
| 21:39.17 | cladhaire | someone sent me porn on the train yesterday |
| 21:39.21 | cladhaire | THAT is amazing |
| 21:39.24 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: i want |
| 21:39.31 | bleeter | haha |
| 21:39.33 | ScytheBlade1 | 17:38 < ScytheBlade1> I am a *terrible* person |
| 21:39.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: but you're the HILARIOUS kind of terrible. |
| 21:39.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The trick here |
| 21:40.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a 50 minute transit to and from school |
| 21:40.08 | Neuro_Medivh | if you haven't seen the SNL skit with Hillary and Palin, you should go to Hulu and check it |
| 21:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | On... the lightrail |
| 21:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm thinking I'm going to run this on my laptop in my backpack the entire way up there |
| 21:40.41 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: need videos of people's reactions ;) |
| 21:40.43 | ScytheBlade1 | And bring a Calvin and Hobbes book so when I randomly break out in laughter fingers aren't pointed at me |
| 21:40.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:40.59 | Fisker- | why so invisible cladhaire ? |
| 21:41.17 | cladhaire | i'm on The Bloodoath |
| 21:41.20 | cladhaire | no invisible |
| 21:41.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man, and python has a bluetooth lib |
| 21:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | This is too perfect not to do |
| 21:42.27 | Neuro_Medivh | hmm... metallica released a new album... anyone heard it yet? |
| 21:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh man, I forgot I have three USB bluetooth adapters + internal built in bluetooth |
| 21:44.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I could thread this script and nail people four in parallel |
| 21:45.14 | cladhaire | ScytheBlade1: I want! |
| 21:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to make it first |
| 21:45.51 | cladhaire | Fisker-: are you a miner, or just being a pita P:P |
| 21:45.55 | Neuro_Medivh | sigh, we're gonna see ScytheBlade1 on Fark next week: "Local man arrested after Rickrolling commuters on lightrail" |
| 21:46.19 | Gnarfoz | somehow I don't see how you'd get their phones to actually play that? |
| 21:46.23 | Gnarfoz | or even accept the transfer |
| 21:46.28 | Fisker- | the second part of course cladhaire :D |
| 21:46.33 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 21:46.41 | ScytheBlade1 | "Free-ring-tone.mp3" |
| 21:47.13 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 21:47.26 | Gnarfoz | gullible much? ^^ |
| 21:47.34 | ScytheBlade1 | this is so perfect |
| 21:47.40 | Dashkal | I'd probably accept it just to see what it was... |
| 21:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Exactly! |
| 21:48.00 | Dashkal | Assuming I was reasonably certain my phone wouldn't get rooted thanks to a buffer overflow in the mp3 player :p |
| 21:48.05 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah |
| 21:48.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 21:48.59 | Gnarfoz | I don't even keep BT enabled because it eats mah battereh |
| 21:49.28 | Dashkal | Marginally related question: Is there a tool yet that'll allow me to turn my windows and/or linux box into a bluetooth headset? |
| 21:49.34 | End | ...fuck |
| 21:49.38 | End | my disguise broke |
| 21:49.42 | Gnarfoz | Dashkal: yes, your bluetooth stack? |
| 21:49.43 | End | and now I can't kill drakuru |
| 21:50.00 | kd3 | end; snag a beserker |
| 21:50.02 | Gnarfoz | that is, if you're not using the MS one :D |
| 21:50.16 | ScytheBlade1 | cladhaire: looks like debian has a package for this bluetooth API too |
| 21:50.17 | Dashkal | heh. So this tends to just come with? |
| 21:50.24 | cladhaire | oooh |
| 21:50.31 | cladhaire | my msi wind has bluietooth and runs debian |
| 21:50.34 | cladhaire | and i travel with it |
| 21:50.34 | cladhaire | <3 |
| 21:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://lightblue.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html |
| 21:50.57 | Dashkal | I'd eyeballing a bluetooth enabled phone (The openMoko one) and I'd love to be able to just use my computer headset when at the PC. |
| 21:51.54 | End | kd3: I had a berserker, but I panicked and picked up diguise again, and that's where I couldn't attack him |
| 21:52.06 | kd3 | so, drop the disguise |
| 21:52.07 | End | I had to remove my disguise to do anything |
| 21:52.58 | Dashkal | wee... the front page on /. rather neatly explains why I'll never edit a page on wikipedia... |
| 21:53.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (n=Dune@208-104-142-238.rhhe1.2wcm.comporium.net) |
| 21:55.11 | NeoTron | So.. is Gryan Stoutmantle still in Westfall too? |
| 21:55.36 | bleeter | NeoTron: I've been too afraid to go looking |
| 21:56.34 | bleeter | not as if I could post another bug report about any of this, anyways :P |
| 21:56.47 | bleeter | hmm NOTABUG too |
| 21:58.08 | bleeter | hey the forum CoC has changed again |
| 21:58.17 | NeoTron | CoC? |
| 21:58.22 | bleeter | code of conduct |
| 21:58.32 | cladhaire | why is there a +resilience elixir |
| 21:58.37 | NeoTron | h |
| 21:58.53 | cladhaire | if they don't persist through death |
| 21:58.54 | cladhaire | in pvp |
| 21:58.55 | cladhaire | where you die |
| 21:59.13 | bleeter | if you've got a +res elixir, you're not gunna die? |
| 21:59.14 | NeoTron | you can live longer in pvp than many pve encounters... point is? :P |
| 21:59.23 | Neuro_Medivh | well, ideally, with the resilience, you won't die |
| 21:59.38 | NeoTron | not to mention 5 minute demonslaying elixirs - doesn't matter if you die, they only last 5 minutes anyway |
| 22:01.09 | cladhaire | Fisker-: how in the hell did I just pull all of those |
| 22:01.42 | NeoTron | I was pleasantly surprised last night that beta was actually playable |
| 22:01.52 | NeoTron | occasional hickup but for the most part close to no command lag |
| 22:02.11 | NeoTron | wonder if people got tired and stopped playing or something changed on blizzard's side |
| 22:02.12 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 22:02.16 | Fisker- | but i halped |
| 22:02.19 | Fisker- | and you were just like |
| 22:02.21 | Fisker- | fu |
| 22:02.49 | NeoTron | Dashkal: ah must be why! |
| 22:03.03 | Dashkal | Prolly. Game was selling like crazy |
| 22:03.08 | cladhaire | hhahaha |
| 22:03.18 | cladhaire | Fisker-: this is hilarious to watch |
| 22:03.20 | steev | nevcairiel: around? you'd said that the source to wau was available - happen to know *where* because I can't find the sf project page any longer, and the wiki page says see sourceforge link above, but there is no link... |
| 22:03.33 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 22:03.46 | cladhaire | AAW |
| 22:03.50 | cladhaire | EVEEL ROGUE |
| 22:04.58 | Fisker- | not like i die to stuff like that >:3 |
| 22:05.04 | Fisker- | but you ruined my fun |
| 22:05.16 | Fisker- | you will pay with your life! |
| 22:06.26 | NeoTron | are you playing wow but communicating through irc for some reason? |
| 22:06.29 | End | so, it helps if you don't panic when the disguise gets automatically removed ;-p |
| 22:09.19 | Fisker- | we cannot communicate ingame NeoTron |
| 22:09.24 | cladhaire | Fisker-: if you can catch me |
| 22:09.39 | cladhaire | I was grouped with him, which is the only reason i helped :P |
| 22:10.26 | cladhaire | haste: can you do +81 to weapon? |
| 22:11.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Zootfizzle (i=c64a263b@WoWUIDev/Blizz/Zooty-Zoot-Zoot) |
| 22:11.58 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Zootfizzle] by ChanServ |
| 22:12.08 | End | it's zoot! |
| 22:12.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik|Ecole (n=nospam@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 22:12.14 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 22:12.25 | Zootfizzle | It is! |
| 22:12.27 | Zootfizzle | ~seen peavey |
| 22:12.38 | purl | i haven't seen 'peavey', Zootfizzle |
| 22:12.39 | Zootfizzle | ~seen savatage |
| 22:12.41 | purl | i haven't seen 'savatage', Zootfizzle |
| 22:12.41 | End | ~tickle Zootfizzle |
| 22:12.42 | purl | ACTION jumps on Zootfizzle, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 22:12.44 | bleeter | zooty zoot zoot!! hahahah |
| 22:12.44 | Shirik|Ecole | omg it's a Zootfizzle |
| 22:12.52 | steev | nevcairiel: nevermind, google is my friend, he moved source to codeplex |
| 22:12.56 | Zootfizzle | :P |
| 22:12.56 | Pytlask | Zootfizzle! |
| 22:13.00 | End | Shirik|Ecole doesn't stay very well hidden! |
| 22:13.02 | Zootfizzle | I hate trolls |
| 22:13.07 | Pytlask | I hate gnomes |
| 22:13.07 | Zootfizzle | How about you guys? |
| 22:13.11 | ScytheBlade1 | --> WALL O' TXT |
| 22:13.11 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: @ [string "WALL O' TXT"]:1: '=' expected near 'O' |
| 22:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 22:13.14 | Zootfizzle | But we're cuddly :( |
| 22:13.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ........ |
| 22:13.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart batbot |
| 22:13.17 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on batbot |
| 22:13.31 | Pytlask | My adventure spoon would beg to differ |
| 22:13.46 | Zootfizzle | I'm not into adventure spooning. |
| 22:14.00 | End | hold hold on, for good measure |
| 22:14.02 | Zootfizzle | Spoons. |
| 22:14.36 | NeoTron | wall of text indee |
| 22:14.36 | bleeter | how about adventure sporking? |
| 22:15.05 | End | adventure knorking? |
| 22:15.14 | Pytlask | If its "Adventure Knifing" you're into, I'm never coming near you |
| 22:15.37 | Fisker- | >:E cladhaire |
| 22:15.39 | Fisker- | so many gankers |
| 22:15.47 | cladhaire | orly? |
| 22:15.54 | cladhaire | normally its the horde that's gank happy |
| 22:16.01 | cladhaire | i'll have to remember to do these at this time of night :P |
| 22:16.19 | bleeter | i know why I'm gank happy when I play horde, I go days w/o seeing an ally |
| 22:17.01 | cladhaire | heh |
| 22:17.18 | NeoTron | I know why I play PvE |
| 22:17.19 | Fisker- | wanna duel cladhaire ? |
| 22:17.25 | Fisker- | Only holy spells though |
| 22:17.38 | NeoTron | nothing more annoying than being bothered while I'm questing/farming/whatevering |
| 22:17.41 | cladhaire | sure, it'll only take a half hour :P |
| 22:17.45 | cladhaire | if that |
| 22:17.54 | cladhaire | i'll auto attack you to death |
| 22:17.55 | Fisker- | nah i can kill you in less than that |
| 22:17.56 | cladhaire | and get full mana back! |
| 22:17.59 | Fisker- | >:e |
| 22:18.32 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:18.41 | cladhaire | i'm west of dawnstar |
| 22:18.52 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf jagang |
| 22:19.04 | NeoTron | ~wtf wtf |
| 22:19.13 | cladhaire | i can't do any damage to you however |
| 22:19.21 | cladhaire | which isn't much of a duel |
| 22:19.31 | NeoTron | ~foobar |
| 22:19.32 | purl | $$%$% |
| 22:19.39 | NeoTron | ~wtf foobar |
| 22:19.50 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf fubar |
| 22:20.06 | Dashkal | ~wtf foo |
| 22:20.08 | NeoTron | wtf => abbreviation expander I presume |
| 22:20.14 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:20.28 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf snafu |
| 22:20.33 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf pebkac |
| 22:20.42 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf bohica |
| 22:20.51 | NeoTron | ok that was a new one |
| 22:20.57 | Dashkal | ~wtf id=10t |
| 22:21.08 | Dashkal | aww, the = confused it |
| 22:21.18 | cladhaire | Fisker-: I'm back in town now |
| 22:21.31 | NeoTron | ~wtf id10t |
| 22:22.19 | NeoTron | did you know - games are in fact not bad for kids! it can actually be benefitial |
| 22:22.29 | Thunder_Child | thats not an acronym |
| 22:22.43 | Fisker- | i'm tired cladhaire :( |
| 22:22.52 | NeoTron | how else would the kids of today learn to pwn people in the ballz with their fully automatic machine guns |
| 22:22.56 | cladhaire | I know, plate armour is heavy to carry around! |
| 22:23.16 | Thunder_Child | ~nickometer id10t |
| 22:23.37 | Dewin | Hmm |
| 22:23.39 | Fisker- | watch out btw |
| 22:23.42 | Dewin | ~nickometer Dewin |
| 22:23.47 | End | why, jor muttar is pretty fat |
| 22:23.49 | Dewin | Win! |
| 22:23.51 | cladhaire | Fisker-: win! |
| 22:23.52 | End | (no, not really) |
| 22:24.05 | cladhaire | did you get away? |
| 22:24.09 | Fisker- | YOU OWE ME 5G |
| 22:24.33 | cladhaire | you backed into the guards |
| 22:24.36 | cladhaire | we were fine where i was standing |
| 22:24.38 | cladhaire | I blame you |
| 22:24.41 | Fisker- | nah |
| 22:24.48 | Fisker- | there was a protector behind you |
| 22:24.51 | cladhaire | so I'm gonna hearth now |
| 22:24.51 | cladhaire | :P |
| 22:24.53 | Fisker- | he was the one who aggroed |
| 22:25.27 | Fisker- | that tends to annoy people >:D |
| 22:26.07 | Fisker- | oh well got 7 minutes of primetime alliance ganking |
| 22:26.19 | clad|sleep | heh |
| 22:28.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@michaelg20.goshen.edu) |
| 22:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 22:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to send a file over bluetooth without pairing? |
| 22:29.15 | Fisker- | coupling |
| 22:29.16 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 22:29.54 | clad|sleep | ScytheBlade1: yes, there should be |
| 22:30.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not finding it :/ |
| 22:30.21 | Fogger | anyone remember the function for screen flash? is there a function for it? |
| 22:30.32 | Dewin | Goodbye PTR! It was nice knowing you. |
| 22:30.36 | Dewin | "World server is down." |
| 22:30.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time I try to send this my phone prompts to pair |
| 22:32.03 | Dashkal | I wonder how many tech support people could actually get away with this: http://notalwaysright.com/playing-along-part-2/569 |
| 22:34.50 | steev | Dewin: eh? its up here |
| 22:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | blah |
| 22:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | This is hating on me :/ |
| 22:39.03 | steev | Dewin: you're still better off than a guy in our guild - he tries to load the ptr, and the screen goes black like wow is loading and then he gets a critical error |
| 22:39.14 | NeoTron | http://notalwaysright.com/i-tremble-for-our-children/484 |
| 22:40.23 | Dewin | steev: PVE realm is down. |
| 22:40.40 | Dewin | or maybe the continent crashed hmmm |
| 22:40.41 | Dewin | let me try my mage |
| 22:41.31 | Dewin | - /who Shattrath 0 players found ftw |
| 22:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: short of naming my adapter "pin-is-0000" I'm not seeing a way to do this :( |
| 22:42.14 | Dashkal | NeoTron: *sighs* I've know teachers that dense |
| 22:42.38 | Dewin | And I was so close to being done with my hunter action bar setup. |
| 22:44.37 | erikd | scythe: there used to be a hack or something that'd let you do that but i assume they fixed it in newer phones |
| 22:44.42 | NeoTron | ok I need to stop reading that site or I'll LOL |
| 22:44.45 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 22:44.46 | NeoTron | http://notalwaysright.com/of-all-the-moments-for-freud-to-slip/164 |
| 22:45.34 | erikd | i remember reading about people hacking ads onto other people's phones and reading their contact lists |
| 22:45.35 | clad|sleep | ScytheBlade1: hrm, sioraiocht was sent a file this weekend with no pairing |
| 22:45.37 | clad|sleep | so i know its possible |
| 22:45.38 | Dashkal | Ok, damn glad the office is empty. There was no avoiding laughing at that one |
| 22:46.11 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: check what service it used? I've tried OBEX Data Transfer and OBEX Push - the push is just broke, the transfer requires pairing |
| 22:47.17 | End | âItâs a furniture store, maâam. If you can fit a loveseat in your pocket, youâre welcome to it.â |
| 22:47.35 | ScytheBlade1 | s/it/was/ |
| 22:47.57 | *** part/#wowuidev erikd (n=yodatoad@rrcs-67-53-180-238.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:48.07 | *** join/#wowuidev erikd (n=yodatoad@rrcs-67-53-180-238.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:48.14 | erikd | wrong window >< |
| 22:48.29 | erikd | and that's hard with irssi |
| 22:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:48.56 | clad|sleep | ScytheBlade1: i don't know.. some random guy sent the porn to him |
| 22:48.59 | clad|sleep | so i dont know how to track it down |
| 22:49.15 | clad|sleep | maybe the push requiring pairing is an option on the device? |
| 22:49.27 | clad|sleep | i know my laptop can receive files w/o pairing |
| 22:49.29 | erikd | i'd find out how old the phone is |
| 22:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty new phone |
| 22:49.39 | erikd | see if it's the stack hack |
| 22:49.56 | erikd | not your phone, the other guy's |
| 22:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just testing between my phone and my laptop |
| 22:50.10 | clad|sleep | OBEX Object Push and OBEX File Transfer are all thats on on my phone |
| 22:50.16 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah same here |
| 22:50.23 | erikd | not that i'd be able tell you when it was fixed anyway :P |
| 22:51.48 | clad|sleep | So |
| 22:51.58 | clad|sleep | have ANYONE seen the WoTLK CE on sale anywhere in the EU? |
| 22:52.21 | Shirik|Ecole | I have heard it is not yet available |
| 22:52.25 | clad|sleep | =( |
| 22:52.26 | clad|sleep | that's sad face |
| 22:52.29 | clad|sleep | someone should ping me when it id |
| 22:52.44 | Mikk | i can preorder with my standard dealer |
| 22:52.55 | *** join/#wowuidev soufron (n=soufron@vol75-1-81-57-79-123.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:53.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "Response message: Unknown response" |
| 22:53.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Useful |
| 22:53.13 | Mikk | er... no i can't! |
| 22:53.14 | ScytheBlade1 | .... wait....... |
| 22:53.20 | Mikk | it's listed, but not bookable |
| 22:53.37 | clad|sleep | Mikk: where is your standard dealer? |
| 22:53.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Malgayne_ (n=caseymon@cpe-24-30-145-15.san.res.rr.com) |
| 22:54.07 | Mikk | "As soon as our distributor confirms its availability, we will open bookings for this." |
| 22:54.25 | clad|sleep | Mikk: mind shooting me a message when it comes up? |
| 22:54.28 | clad|sleep | i want to make sure i get mine |
| 22:54.37 | *** part/#wowuidev Malgayne_ (n=caseymon@cpe-24-30-145-15.san.res.rr.com) |
| 22:54.47 | Mikk | I shop at a swedish site, prolly not much good to you :P |
| 22:54.55 | clad|sleep | ah :P |
| 22:55.00 | Mikk | And I preordered the standard version so I prolly won't be looking that often >.< |
| 22:55.15 | clad|sleep | i'll keep my eye out :P |
| 22:55.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "Server denied the Put request" |
| 22:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | And this is even paired :/ |
| 22:56.00 | erikd | scythe: that's like an error i was getting today... "One of the parameters is incorrect" |
| 22:56.05 | erikd | gee, thanks |
| 22:56.11 | ScytheBlade1 | lol yeah, no joke |
| 22:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iem-vu_mlRjRYfqkscEkw2ciRm7wD938O2300 |
| 22:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | "Hackers claim break-in to Palin's e-mail account" |
| 22:57.36 | ScytheBlade1 | uh-oh |
| 22:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | "The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these e-mails will destroy them" |
| 22:58.01 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahahaha |
| 22:58.17 | smcn | i heard john mccain invented the blackberry |
| 22:58.27 | smcn | definitely more impressive than inventing the internet |
| 22:58.27 | End | apparently |
| 22:58.51 | smcn | in other news, the video for tv on the radio - golden age is awesome |
| 22:58.58 | *** join/#wowuidev ArrowmasterClass (n=arrow@unaffiliated/arrowmaster) |
| 23:01.52 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_Yahoo_inbox_2008 |
| 23:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Bam |
| 23:02.52 | Syzgyn | Is someone taking combatlogs for 10man naxx? |
| 23:03.11 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:03.47 | Duman | not loading |
| 23:03.55 | Duman | (sbo) |
| 23:04.05 | *** join/#wowuidev kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-065-190-128-061.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah same |
| 23:05.52 | Duman | jsut googled for "sarah palin yahoo" -- heh |
| 23:06.42 | smcn | just waiting for an email that says "OMG i herd jon mccain is gonna pick me 2 b his vp... WTF!!!!!" |
| 23:08.48 | Duman | LOL |
| 23:12.55 | Pytlask | Scythe: You heard how they 'broke in' to her email, right? |
| 23:13.11 | ScytheBlade1 | guessed her passwor |
| 23:13.12 | ScytheBlade1 | +d |
| 23:13.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Which was her license plate |
| 23:13.26 | kd3 | fail |
| 23:13.32 | Pytlask | I heard it was the yahoo password recovery tool |
| 23:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Which was a custom plate at that |
| 23:13.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Sec as I find the article I read |
| 23:13.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@michaelg20.goshen.edu) |
| 23:13.47 | Zootfizzle | I heard it was yahoo password recovery as well |
| 23:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh that was her husband's e-mail |
| 23:14.41 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm |
| 23:15.17 | wereHamster | the link to the story pls.. want to have something to laugh about |
| 23:15.23 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.crn.com/security/210602290 |
| 23:15.25 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iem-vu_mlRjRYfqkscEkw2ciRm7wD938O2300 |
| 23:15.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=palin+e-mail&btnG=Search+News |
| 23:15.44 | smcn | it's funny because they wouldn't even have bothered if she just used her .ak.us email or whatever |
| 23:15.54 | smcn | for government stuff |
| 23:16.20 | smcn | at least, i heard she was using yahoo for government stuff just scanning ars technica at 5 this morning |
| 23:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | At this moment, every politican is scrambling to change their yahoo/gmail passwords and delete anything sensitive within |
| 23:16.35 | End | wintergrasp doesn't dismount you anymore? |
| 23:16.46 | kd3 | bugged, it should |
| 23:16.49 | NightHawkTheSane | smcn: thats the rumor. which is.. i believe.. illegal? |
| 23:16.53 | End | it didn't for me |
| 23:16.56 | End | I can't remounted |
| 23:17.02 | End | but it let me fly over it |
| 23:17.16 | End | haha lieutenant murp |
| 23:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastebin.com/f652c44fb |
| 23:18.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah the wonders of the internet |
| 23:19.41 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.26 | smcn | EPIC FAIL The "white knight" posted a screenshot to /b/ of his pending message to one of Palin's contacts about how to recover the account, but made the critical mistake of not blanking out the new password he set. |
| 23:20.31 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1: line 33! ROFL |
| 23:20.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, lots of fail there |
| 23:21.34 | Duman | LOL |
| 23:21.37 | Duman | man fail |
| 23:21.43 | Duman | +, |
| 23:22.29 | smcn | page not found for that imageshack link |
| 23:26.27 | Arrowmaster | so when you delete a yahoo email account, im guessing it cant be reregistered anytime soon? |
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| 23:27.57 | bleeter | yahoo is fail |
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| 23:28.12 | Arrowmaster | oh wait yahoo email is tied to yahooid |
| 23:28.42 | Arrowmaster | and you can disable the email seperately from the yahooid |
| 23:30.24 | bleeter | is it just me, or is wikileaks very unresponsive atm? hehe |
| 23:30.47 | bleeter | hmm, slow as hell.. nm |
| 23:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:30.59 | wereHamster | probably because half the world is trying to d/l the emails ... |
| 23:31.02 | ScytheBlade1 | it was the password recovery |
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| 23:33.35 | Kaso | yahoo keeps the email account on their system for 90 days |
| 23:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol wow |
| 23:34.09 | ScytheBlade1 | jun093190 <-- password that was used |
| 23:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone who actually uses a special date as their password |
| 23:34.27 | wereHamster | birth date of her daughter? |
| 23:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be my guess |
| 23:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | have to be. |
| 23:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Bristol (b. 1990) |
| 23:35.50 | ScytheBlade1 | yup, almost without a doubt |
| 23:35.59 | NightHawkTheSane | some basic math can figure that out, actually ;) |
| 23:36.15 | Kaso | and the epic fail wasnt the guy who changed the password, it was the original person who got into the account which was possibly involved in hiding evidence from an offical subpoenaed, and the first thing they thought to do wasn't "Ill make a backup of all emails on this account" nope. it was, ill post the password on 4chan |
| 23:36.19 | Kaso | good thinking champ |
| 23:36.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 23:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll say that the archive containing all of these "e-mails" is incredibly disappointing |
| 23:36.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: would kill for a nice unmodified back up of the full contents of both accounts |
| 23:37.06 | ScytheBlade1 | The most valuable thing in there, however, is a copy of her address book, complete with public/private accounts for multiple people |
| 23:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I suspect many more e-mail accounts are about to be closed in the very near future |
| 23:37.30 | wereHamster | did you d/l it from wikileaks or somewhere else? |
| 23:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | somewhere else |
| 23:37.48 | ScytheBlade1 | wikileaks is *hammered* |
| 23:37.51 | Arrowmaster | well it does prove 100% without a doubt that she should have been using an official .gov email address for official government emails |
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| 23:38.48 | kromar | hi |
| 23:39.37 | kromar | is bugsack/buggrabber working with wotlk? or is there a other addon which can be used on beta servers? |
| 23:40.17 | Duman | oh man |
| 23:40.26 | Duman | Aides to Gov. Sarah Palin won't comply with subpoenas issued by state lawmakers investigating the firing of Alaska's former public safety commissioner because Palin "has declined to participate" in the probe, her attorney general says. |
| 23:40.29 | Duman | lol, wut? |
| 23:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: yeah, that's cute. |
| 23:40.38 | Duman | someone needs to inform them it doesn't work like that |
| 23:40.59 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can load the wikileaks page it has everything of interest btw |
| 23:41.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: yeah, i mean, should take after the example set by the highest officials in the nation.. er.. fuck. |
| 23:41.24 | Duman | hahaha |
| 23:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
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| 23:44.38 | bleeter | you guys are so screwed ;) :P |
| 23:45.00 | bleeter | not much better over this side of the ditch, admittedly |
| 23:47.59 | kamdis | we're screwed no matter what, bleeter. |
| 23:48.10 | kamdis | palin aside |
| 23:49.28 | kamdis | we saw to that, as a nation, 4 to 8 years ago, depending on how you look at it. ;-) |
| 23:49.36 | kamdis | and on that cheery note, night all. |
| 23:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | oh.. fuck me. |
| 23:50.13 | NightHawkTheSane | http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/washington-mutual-begins-auction-to-sell-itself/ |
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| 23:52.49 | cbreak | good, bad or indifferent? |
| 23:52.50 | bleeter | was FDR buried or incinerated? Just wondering if there's any remote chance of reanimating him |
| 23:53.11 | bleeter | prolly the best optin the US has atm |
| 23:53.14 | bleeter | aoption |
| 23:53.17 | bleeter | bah |
| 23:53.47 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: .. at the moment, im indifferent to it. but i've got accounts with wamu.. so if this goes.. poorly... |
| 23:54.03 | kd3 | crap. WaMu too? |
| 23:54.19 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: wamu's been looking grim for a while now. |
| 23:54.20 | bleeter | kd3: they're looking for a buyer.. vultures waiting |
| 23:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not dead yet, but.. |
| 23:55.02 | cbreak | I guess if they sell themselfs, the buyer also buys the debt they owe you |
| 23:55.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, on an entirely unrelated note: Social iciness found to alter perception of temperature: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/health/research/16cold.html?ex=1379304000&en=9a527001026fa76f&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink |
| 23:55.05 | bleeter | wish I'd bought some gold a few years ago |
| 23:55.20 | cbreak | I wish I'd bought apple stocks a fe years ago :) |
| 23:55.25 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 23:55.43 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: well, i'd imagine if they sold themselves entirely, any depositors' accounts would go with and it wouldn't be a -huge- deal |
| 23:59.19 | Codayus | Yar. It's presumably more of a liquidity issue than a solvency issue. And in any case the depositors are insured by FDIC, so...meh. Not really comparable to AIG or the GSEs... |
| 23:59.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 23:59.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i still get nervous when my bank has financial issues. |
