| 00:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah, bombing the king of SW |
| 00:00.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Disappointing, but still oddly satisfying |
| 00:00.49 | Gnarfoz | btw, why's there a throne there, did I miss something? ^^ |
| 00:00.53 | Gnarfoz | and yet, no king |
| 00:00.58 | Gnarfoz | just that freaking boy |
| 00:01.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I found the explosion to be very satisfying |
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| 00:09.26 | Tekkub | Iriel, lil help? http://gist.github.com/4710 |
| 00:10.33 | Iriel | Well that's odd isn't it |
| 00:10.52 | Tekkub | yea, newtable go breaky? |
| 00:10.53 | Iriel | You're not overriding OnAttributeChanged are you? |
| 00:11.04 | Tekkub | uhm I might, old code here one sec |
| 00:11.33 | Tekkub | b:SetScript("OnAttributeChanged", ActionButton_Update) |
| 00:11.35 | Iriel | Easy test is to /dump mainbttn:GetAtribute("_execute") |
| 00:11.38 | Tekkub | heh |
| 00:11.47 | Iriel | the normal handler nil's it after use |
| 00:12.18 | Tekkub | oh that was not good... reloaded and crashed out |
| 00:13.45 | Thunder_Child | stop breakin teh game |
| 00:13.47 | Tekkub | okey yea that fixed that, but now the buttons don't update |
| 00:14.19 | Tekkub | should I set OnAttributeChanged after all the init is done? |
| 00:14.37 | Iriel | You could do that |
| 00:14.59 | Iriel | or set up the call to ActionButton_Update as a hook |
| 00:15.04 | Iriel | (securehook) |
| 00:15.14 | Iriel | (well, HooKScript hook) |
| 00:15.39 | Tekkub | I really don't wan tto do that if I don't have to |
| 00:16.02 | Tekkub | the enter/leave alpha was working, just not the table iter |
| 00:16.09 | Iriel | You dont have to, you just lose _execute, _adopt, and _frame-<x> if you replace the handler |
| 00:16.35 | Tekkub | but I shouldn't need those after init, right? |
| 00:16.52 | Iriel | The system itself doesn't need them |
| 00:16.58 | Iriel | whether YOU need them, only you know 8-) |
| 00:17.19 | Tekkub | I don't :P |
| 00:19.17 | Anaral | Has anyone been able to copy a character to beta today? |
| 00:20.14 | Tekkub | ALBINO LOGIN DRAGON OF DOOM! |
| 00:20.47 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: indeed |
| 00:21.28 | Kirkburn|sleep | he's cute |
| 00:21.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | And has obviously been brushing his calcium well |
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| 00:23.25 | Tekkub | reloading while playing with these secure bits is causing me to crash out... not good |
| 00:23.40 | MusicMan | is there a way to get the current player coordinates, including z? |
| 00:23.53 | Iriel | MusicMan: no |
| 00:24.02 | Iriel | Tekkub: Hm, I'm pretty sure that's not my code |
| 00:24.05 | MusicMan | there's no way at all? |
| 00:24.10 | Gnarfoz | x, y, yes |
| 00:24.11 | Gnarfoz | z, no |
| 00:24.14 | MusicMan | well shit |
| 00:24.28 | Gnarfoz | the UI just doesn't know, besides [flying] |
| 00:24.28 | MusicMan | that's lame |
| 00:24.32 | Tekkub | Iriel, it could be my old secure state code stuff... I have no fucking clue how it works :) |
| 00:25.02 | haste | still shouldn't crash the client :p |
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| 00:30.35 | MusicMan | is there some special reason why wow doesn't let you know z |
| 00:31.04 | zenzelezz | im in ur wow, stealin ur z |
| 00:31.10 | MusicMan | lol |
| 00:31.19 | Thunder_Child | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 00:31.20 | purl | burns zenzelezz to a crisp with a laser |
| 00:31.27 | Kirkburn|sleep | It's not going to be tidy like x and z which are based on the map |
| 00:31.42 | MusicMan | what? |
| 00:32.02 | Kirkburn|sleep | What would the baseline of z be, would it change from zone to zone, etc |
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| 00:32.22 | Kirkburn|sleep | Whereas x and y are just a percentage of the width of the map iirc |
| 00:33.04 | Arrowmaster | the map doesnt use z thus the wow api doesnt give it to you |
| 00:33.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | That's a better reason ^ :) |
| 00:33.44 | Iriel | We used to have X, Y , Z |
| 00:33.55 | Iriel | they took them away because they didn't want instance maps |
| 00:34.14 | Iriel | "If we'd wanted you to have an instance map, we'd have given one to you" (Entirely made up quote, but my opinion of the reasoning) |
| 00:35.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | I wonder if they're ever planning on adding them |
| 00:35.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | I suppose the complexity of them would be a major sticking point |
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| 00:38.55 | Gnarfoz | huh :\ |
| 00:39.01 | Gnarfoz | how does one imply the other? |
| 00:39.12 | Gnarfoz | (instance maps <> z coords) |
| 00:39.25 | Iriel | Well, there are *NO* coordinates in instances at present |
| 00:39.50 | Iriel | the function they removed gave you location coordinates within any zone |
| 00:39.56 | Iriel | (rather than 'position relative to the map') |
| 00:41.16 | Xuerian | Why not use the gps lib that.. cyrect? developed |
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| 00:41.48 | Gnarfoz | you could do that, although IIRC it needs calibration for everything except mana tombs, still ;) |
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| 00:42.09 | Xuerian | Not really that hard to do |
| 00:42.19 | Xuerian | Just time |
| 00:44.22 | Gnarfoz | I don't even know what state it's in, nobody ever picked it up at all |
| 00:44.22 | Gnarfoz | but this wasn't about instance coordinates in the first place, it was about z coordinates :D |
| 00:44.22 | Xuerian | no one has had the pressing need for it |
| 00:44.37 | Gnarfoz | theres metric tons of addons no one has *any* need, much less a pressing one, yet they exist ;) |
| 00:45.08 | Xuerian | true that |
| 00:45.48 | MusicMan | alright, thanks guys :D |
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| 01:01.29 | Mooninaut | templates are tricky |
| 01:01.33 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: seeing tekticles... I can only wonder - why not just replace the font files in \Fonts\ and not use an addon at all? |
| 01:05.30 | Kandok1 | anyone know what the :70 added to all itemlinks in beta means? |
| 01:06.47 | Iriel | Apparently it's your level |
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| 01:07.08 | Gnarfoz | yep, your current level |
| 01:07.12 | Gnarfoz | (for whatever use that is) |
| 01:09.38 | zenzelezz | maybe to calculate green-text bonuses correctly when they're based on level and someone's linking? No idea really |
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| 01:18.05 | kandoko | Mkay, that explains the trouble I've been having with EnhTT :P |
| 01:21.11 | sacarasc | what's enhtt? a totem twisting addon for enhancement shamans? (i kinda need something like that) |
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| 01:22.36 | kandoko | EnhancedTT library. |
| 01:23.41 | Aznamir | Does the RosterLib work on beta server? |
| 01:24.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Curious - does /anyone/ here think that Blizzard needs a demonstration of "how to crash the server" when the "how" consists of "spawn a few thousand NPCs in one single location"? |
| 01:24.34 | Lopeppeppy | They know that trick. AQ opening. :) |
| 01:24.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 01:24.58 | ScytheBlade1 | And large scale city raiding |
| 01:25.03 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765740183&sid=2000 |
| 01:25.12 | ScytheBlade1 | But apparently some beta testers think that a demonstration is in order! |
| 01:26.57 | Lopeppeppy | People am stupid. If they can jump off London Bridge, they do. Because it's cool or something. |
| 01:27.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Something like that |
| 01:27.24 | Shirik | BT clearing guild |
| 01:27.29 | Shirik | two wipes in a row to mag.... |
| 01:27.34 | Shirik | I'm going to kill someone |
| 01:27.43 | Thunder_Child | but not mag it seems |
| 01:31.37 | zenzelezz | Shirik: I didn't know it was possible to wipe at Mag after all the nerfs he's gone through... did you raid him with 4 people or something so you couldn't use the boxes? |
| 01:31.44 | Shirik | I know seriously! |
| 01:31.53 | Shirik | I don't understand how people can be this stupid |
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| 01:40.39 | kandoko | are they having..lol wuts cleave.. I cluck button it no work... butbut I had 5 combo points I couldn't go right then... |
| 01:40.52 | kandoko | *momnets |
| 01:42.28 | zenzelezz | I always find it funny (sad, but funny) to watch how close people stand to a boss when you tell them to be at "maximum melee range" |
| 01:44.50 | Gnarfoz | does anyone know if DefCon offers recordings of talks? |
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| 01:48.11 | Gnarfoz | I mean, come on, large scale city raiding is prohibited because it crashes servers. <--- wtf since when is raiding cities forbidden |
| 01:49.49 | Kaso | Gnarfoz, yes they have videos of the talks on google videos shortly after |
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| 01:50.09 | Gnarfoz | Kaso: great (although vid quality sucks on that, but it's really the audio that's important^^) |
| 01:50.13 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, LOL, really? |
| 01:50.18 | Kaso | Search video.google.com for "Defcon 15" for last years ones, ive not seen any of this years yet. |
| 01:50.29 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: I certainly never heard of that, but that was a quote |
| 01:51.04 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, well, private ones crash, I have never seen a blizz one crash with large-scale raid :D |
| 01:51.06 | DARKGuy | (fun ^^) |
| 01:51.12 | Gnarfoz | nobody cares about pservers |
| 01:51.20 | DARKGuy | they suck :p |
| 01:51.22 | zenzelezz | I suppose it depends what they mean by "large scale" |
| 01:51.39 | DARKGuy | the entire realm against a city? :P |
| 01:51.48 | Gnarfoz | if somebody defines that as "large enough to kill a wow server", I'm gonna strangle them. |
| 01:52.56 | zenzelezz | ... so I was going to watch the women's 100m breaststroke in the olympics... then I found out it was just swimming |
| 01:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: er, whooops, I totally *just* did that, almost word for word :P |
| 01:53.26 | Gnarfoz | ~kill ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:53.27 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudopositrino gun at ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:53.36 | Gnarfoz | also your new topic is fucking wrong |
| 01:53.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: in any case, that line of mine that you quoted there was me being ambigious. I clarified later |
| 01:53.58 | Gnarfoz | you clarified by generalising, good going ;) |
| 01:54.01 | selckin | i've had all of ironforge crash with large city raids |
| 01:54.11 | Gnarfoz | that'd be "all of EK" |
| 01:54.12 | selckin | every there disconnected, and couldn't log in on those chars |
| 01:54.13 | ScytheBlade1 | There's a line between "let's kill a faction leader" and "let's nuke the server" |
| 01:54.14 | zenzelezz | I would be surprised if only parts crashed |
| 01:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm talking about the former |
| 01:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | *latter |
| 01:54.20 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:54.21 | purl | ScytheBlade1: FAIL! |
| 01:54.22 | selckin | rest of the server no problem |
| 01:54.23 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: poing being: he might have no idea |
| 01:54.31 | zenzelezz | selckin: I meant "parts of Ironforge" |
| 01:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: then you have an IQ of six and shouldn't be in the beta anyways. |
| 01:54.39 | Shadowed | ~seen Macca |
| 01:54.42 | purl | macca <n=brendanm@69.12.222.39> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 562d 15h 55m 43s ago, saying: 'cya ! thanks amphi !'. |
| 01:54.45 | Shadowed | ~seen Maccaa |
| 01:54.46 | purl | Shadowed: i haven't seen 'maccaa' |
| 01:54.48 | Gnarfoz | all of EK can "go down", that's the smallest size |
| 01:54.54 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: sure... |
| 01:55.07 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: generalising & condescending go well together :P |
| 01:55.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: "let's crash the server!" <-- good idea or bad idea? |
| 01:55.25 | Gnarfoz | who said that WAS his idea? |
| 01:55.37 | Gnarfoz | you, and the OP |
| 01:55.40 | ScytheBlade1 | *sighs |
| 01:55.52 | Gnarfoz | right. |
| 01:55.55 | ScytheBlade1 | No, not right. |
| 01:55.59 | Gnarfoz | indeed, right |
| 01:56.07 | ScytheBlade1 | But, I'm done in any case |
| 01:56.15 | Gnarfoz | there's people with IQs under 100, but above 6 :P |
| 01:56.26 | ScytheBlade1 | If they want to spawn a bajillion ghouls "because this is our only chance" then let them |
| 01:56.53 | Gnarfoz | I'd wager he was going more along the lines of "well, how many can I have", if he indeed wasn't doing it maliciously |
| 01:57.00 | Gnarfoz | and "2000" is probably just a random number anyway |
| 01:58.14 | Gnarfoz | (I don't even know what "the goul bug" is, forum search doesn't turn up anything) |
| 01:58.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Death Knights can spawn an infinite number of ghouls. That's about it |
| 01:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | Getting too many of them summoned, Gnarfoz, for whatever stupid buggy reason it happens sometimes. |
| 01:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: it's actually 100% reproduceable now, you just keep hitting the ability. It's a bug. |
| 01:59.32 | Gnarfoz | sounds perfectly doable without malicious intent |
| 01:59.45 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's too easy ScytheBlade1! Make the doofuses WORK for it! |
| 01:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe, no kidding |
| 02:00.03 | Gnarfoz | and he might just *not* have been around for AQ opening back then |
| 02:00.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah-right. |
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| 02:01.02 | Gnarfoz | ? what other indications would there be for joe schmoe to assume wow servers would crash with too many players in one area? (besides the fact that there are multiple realms in the first place) |
| 02:01.21 | Gnarfoz | "please don't clump up too much" isn't one of the login screen tips, yet :p |
| 02:01.26 | Lopeppeppy | Raids on major cities. The protest marches that people INSIST on doing to crash areas. |
| 02:01.35 | Gnarfoz | what? |
| 02:01.38 | Lopeppeppy | Server invasions like Blackrock does to AD. |
| 02:01.45 | Gnarfoz | what "protest marches" |
| 02:01.53 | Gnarfoz | you're playing some other wow I've never heard of xD |
| 02:01.54 | kd3 | the warrior one comes to mind |
| 02:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed @ warrior one |
| 02:01.59 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, kd3. |
| 02:02.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Blackrock --> AD is also a good example |
| 02:02.42 | Gnarfoz | well... |
| 02:03.01 | Lopeppeppy | People have known how to crash servers that way for years, this is NOT a new trick. |
| 02:03.18 | Gnarfoz | blizz doesn't care about EU, for example, thus me not even remotely knowing any of the things you've talked about just now. there would be no point to "protest marches" of any kind here. |
| 02:03.25 | Gnarfoz | ... he might just have not known. |
| 02:03.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Bullcrap. |
| 02:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | There's never a point to them, they just get done. |
| 02:03.41 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: bullcrap? lol |
| 02:03.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, but bullcrap. |
| 02:03.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't need to have seen it before to figure out that what you're doing /might be a bad idea/ |
| 02:03.59 | Gnarfoz | sorry, you're just out of touch with reality :P |
| 02:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Call it what you please. |
| 02:04.25 | Gnarfoz | no, but you'd have to have a general idea of how the wow servers work |
| 02:04.32 | Gnarfoz | or seen it before |
| 02:04.32 | Lopeppeppy | Or how ANY server works. |
| 02:04.41 | Lopeppeppy | Overload = crash on any windows machine. |
| 02:04.42 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: entirely irrelevant WHAT server it is |
| 02:04.44 | ScytheBlade1 | You really think that the capital cities didn't give people an idea? |
| 02:04.55 | ScytheBlade1 | You stand in the middle of Shatt or Ironforge, what happens to your computer? |
| 02:05.03 | Gnarfoz | what about capital cities would give me an idea of "too many mobs in 1 area = crash"?! |
| 02:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | You really think that it's a stretch to see that the same thing happens to the servers? |
| 02:05.08 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: nothing. |
| 02:05.12 | Gnarfoz | what would happen |
| 02:05.13 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 02:05.28 | Lopeppeppy | Gnarfoz, when battle masters were first put in and the areas were too congested and crashed? |
| 02:05.29 | Gnarfoz | seriously, stop generalising so much |
| 02:05.38 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: ?! didn't happen here, AT ALL |
| 02:05.42 | Lopeppeppy | When major PvP raids crash servers? It happens all of the time. |
| 02:05.49 | Aznamir | Does anyone know, why UnitBuff function reuturns something strange as timeLeft? |
| 02:06.06 | Gnarfoz | Aznamir: those two sound like they would go well together. what's strange about it? |
| 02:07.02 | Aznamir | for my greater blessing of wisdom it returns 19629.039 and the value does not change as the buff ticks down from 30 minutes |
| 02:07.13 | zenzelezz | Aznamir: beta? |
| 02:07.18 | Aznamir | yeah |
| 02:07.47 | zenzelezz | did someone say they changed the values it returns to match those of UnitDebuff or something? Can't remember, and don't know the details |
| 02:07.57 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: sorry, but you're still assuming several things that have stupid prerequisites like the person in question like: he'd have to have played on a pvp server, he'd have to have been in, or subject of such a pvp raid, he'd have to play on a server that's at least "highly" populated, he'd have to have been around "long enough", he'd have to have a technical background (joe schmoe doesn't know why windows crashes)... any of these. |
| 02:08.24 | Gnarfoz | 1st like = about |
| 02:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | Or any one of those. I'm not willing to bet that he hasn't had ONE of those experiences. He doesn't need them all, just a statistical probability of one of them, plus listening to General chat in any major city. |
| 02:09.22 | Aznamir | Ah... never mind, missed one of the new parameters |
| 02:10.13 | Gnarfoz | I give up >_> |
| 02:10.59 | Gnarfoz | what do I have to do to be able to get to Dalaran on my own? |
| 02:11.10 | Thunder_Child | quest line iirc |
| 02:11.16 | Gnarfoz | (I'm still 73, but when I reach 74, I'd like to know where the supposed quest line starts) |
| 02:11.28 | Gnarfoz | because... there's 0 NPCs in Crystalsong |
| 02:11.44 | kd3 | gnarfoz; you alliance or horde? |
| 02:11.49 | Gnarfoz | alliance |
| 02:12.03 | kd3 | go back to stars' rest or valiance keep |
| 02:12.09 | kd3 | there's a quest there that'll send you to dalaran |
| 02:12.21 | Gnarfoz | k, thanks :) |
| 02:12.32 | Gnarfoz | 40 factions at Exalted gets you a title "Name the Exalted" <-- go Xinhuan, go! :D |
| 02:12.39 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Magical_Kingdom_of_Dalaran |
| 02:13.37 | Gnarfoz | ah, that's what the Kirin'Tor NPC in the inn that has a silver ! @ level 70 is for, then :) |
| 02:13.47 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:16.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: nice PDF. I might actually bother to understand how all of the secure stuff works this time around. (In detail, anyway.) |
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| 02:46.35 | End | goddammit, forgot my war hippogryph is an elekk |
| 02:47.02 | Dark_Elf | poor elephant |
| 02:47.14 | Dashkal | PDF? Secure Stuff? |
| 02:47.18 | DARKGuy | hey, how was the script to display the frame beneath the mouse cursor? |
| 02:47.19 | DARKGuy | lol. |
| 02:48.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ~devtools |
| 02:48.07 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 02:48.59 | DARKGuy | ooh sweet, thanks ^^ |
| 02:49.28 | Gnarfoz | DARKGuy: /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 02:49.56 | Gnarfoz | is it just me, or is lots of stuff from DEFCON actually attributed to Blackhat and v.v.? |
| 02:50.10 | DARKGuy | Gnarfoz, hey that works too, thanks :D |
| 02:52.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I love doing these assignments for math, and not having a clue what I actually just proved |
| 02:52.42 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 02:52.53 | Gnarfoz | also, DEFCON's page title is ftw: "Real Time Social Networking for Ninjas" |
| 02:53.12 | Shirik|Ecole | "Prove that, for the special case of indicial admittance, the laplace transformation of y is equivalent to s time the laplace transformation of A times the laplace transformation of g" I did it, but I have no idea what I just did >.> |
| 02:53.49 | Lopeppeppy | You gave me a headache. :) |
| 02:53.59 | Gnarfoz | that's why I sucked at math in school - I can't do stuff like that without knowing what I do |
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| 02:55.22 | Thunder_Child | Y=SxAxG because it's the bloody answer, thats why |
| 02:58.59 | Lopeppeppy | Group hug, yay! I soooo missed you guys! |
| 02:59.58 | Gnarfoz | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 02:59.59 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Thunder_Child. I hate you because you fail. |
| 03:00.04 | Thunder_Child | well i'm sure we missed you too |
| 03:00.10 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge Gnarfoz |
| 03:00.11 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of Gnarfoz's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 03:00.52 | Gnarfoz | str.lower() at work! |
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| 03:16.00 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: 8-) |
| 03:19.05 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:22.16 | Shirik|Ecole | The problem with proving something and having no idea what you just proved: |
| 03:22.24 | Ackis | http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n89/Ackis/WoW%20Screenshots/BreanniandAckis.jpg haha victory |
| 03:22.31 | Shirik|Ecole | The next question usually asks you to do something with what you just proved :( |
| 03:22.39 | Shirik|Ecole | and you have no idea what it's for |
| 03:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that does suck some, dear |
| 03:34.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: right back at you ;) |
| 03:36.43 | Shirik|Ecole | lua> if true, nil then print(true) end |
| 03:36.43 | lua_bot | Shirik|Ecole: luabot:1: 'then' expected near ',' |
| 03:37.04 | MusicMan | anyone know what the GetQuestLink parameter is? it doesn't have a page on the wiki... |
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| 03:43.05 | Ackis | MusicMan: try wowcompares and add it to wowwiki :D |
| 03:43.18 | MusicMan | I don't know what you mean |
| 03:44.34 | Ackis | questLink = GetQuestLink(questIndex); |
| 03:44.43 | Ackis | ~framexml |
| 03:44.44 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 03:44.48 | Lonny`afk | Anyone wanna RA3 beta key, I have one, so :) |
| 03:44.58 | Lonny`afk | want* |
| 03:45.07 | Ackis | ~api GetQuestLink |
| 03:45.08 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetQuestLink |
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| 03:46.18 | MusicMan | thanks for the links :) |
| 03:46.45 | Ackis | wowcompares is the entire api, you can find out stuff by looking through the code there |
| 03:46.56 | MusicMan | sweet thanks |
| 03:47.30 | Corrodias | unofficial addon kit: notepad |
| 03:47.36 | Corrodias | SO THERE |
| 03:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, win |
| 03:48.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Lonny`afk: lol, I've got an RA3 beta key too - multiplayer only beta ftl |
| 03:48.42 | Ackis | MusicMan: I just added that to wowwiki btw |
| 03:49.04 | Lonny`afk | ScytheBlade1: Dunno what to do with it haha :P |
| 03:49.17 | MusicMan | lol |
| 03:49.25 | Corrodias | this is odd. the version of Whitesnake - Here I Go Again is a bit different from the version i heard on the radio this morning |
| 03:49.46 | Lukian | It's called a "radio edit" |
| 03:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Lonny`afk: yeah same. I read the e-mail and was amazed at how lengthy it is, just to install a game. You have to create, what, three different accounts? |
| 03:50.06 | Corrodias | i know what a radio edit is, and i don't think you're right in this case. |
| 03:50.45 | Corrodias | the lyrics aren't changed and it's no longer, but it starts differently and has different instruments involved |
| 03:50.54 | Lonny`afk | ScytheBlade1: Yeah .. all the EA account systme is pretty messed up, it takes hours just to figure it out :P |
| 03:51.02 | Lonny`afk | system* |
| 03:51.04 | Ackis | haha I killed an evaded mob |
| 03:51.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I had the pleasure of figuring that out when I installed BF2142. |
| 03:51.15 | Corrodias | how'd you manage that? |
| 03:51.17 | ScytheBlade1 | "pleasure" |
| 03:51.27 | Lonny`afk | haha :P |
| 03:52.00 | MusicMan | wow this is really cool, thanks |
| 03:52.23 | Lonny`afk | I wait for SC2 anyway :) |
| 03:52.29 | Ackis | Corrodias: not sure, it gave me "evaded" while it died, took it from 100% to 0 though |
| 03:53.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. I've already got SC2 on reserve. |
| 03:53.15 | Lonny`afk | Ah nice :D |
| 03:54.29 | Lonny`afk | Have you ordered through Amazon.com or ? |
| 03:56.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, just the local gamestop |
| 03:57.40 | Lonny`afk | ahh |
| 03:58.10 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: they released some info on the other dragon |
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| 04:02.19 | Quezacolt | Can anyone in <Secure Templars> invite my beta DK into the guild? Name's Quezadev |
| 04:02.52 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 04:03.01 | Shirik | Looking at the warsong battlemaster |
| 04:03.05 | Shirik | "Warsong Gulch 1038" |
| 04:03.10 | Shirik | ......? |
| 04:03.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Quezacolt: whisper someone. If they can, they will, otherwise they'll point you to the right person who can |
| 04:03.26 | kd3 | meh, WSG was up in the 2ks yesterday on ruin |
| 04:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: done as a bugfix, people were getting stuck in dead BGs. So instead they just create new instances endlessly, |
| 04:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | and I'd assume force-kill the old instances somehow unpleasantly. |
| 04:04.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Temporary, I'm guessing |
| 04:04.15 | Corrodias | and delete any characters left in them |
| 04:04.17 | Lonny`afk | "Alterac Valley 2763" :P |
| 04:04.19 | Corrodias | and corrupt the accounts while you're at it |
| 04:04.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that too. |
| 04:04.29 | Corrodias | and hire a hitman to ensure the customer never gets to complain |
| 04:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | The backlash was pretty impressive. |
| 04:05.13 | Diao | wsg is up at 6k on bloodlust |
| 04:05.15 | Diao | or something like that |
| 04:05.23 | Lonny` | Haha :D |
| 04:05.32 | Diao | we're too active :( |
| 04:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: also a suggestion for the PDF, an example that demonstrates changing state based on macro conditionals. [bonusbar:6] (I think? The possession bar) for example - if this is up, then make these other secure frames visible. Otherwise hide them. |
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| 04:13.04 | Neo|Home | so seems like the UI scale setting isn't saved |
| 04:13.08 | Neo|Home | anyone else have that issue? |
| 04:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, everyone does |
| 04:15.36 | Thunder_Child | i dont, mine is perfect |
| 04:16.04 | Gnarfoz | it keeps resetting to something even though it's not even set to "use UI scale" |
| 04:16.27 | Iriel | I've been having uiscale revert too |
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| 04:16.48 | Thunder_Child | use of 'toys' and 'bedtime' is forbidden in the same sentance |
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| 04:17.52 | DARKGuy | Damn, Kirov's not on :( |
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| 04:19.57 | Sixen | yeeeee |
| 04:19.58 | Sixen | [09:19:35 PM] You receive item: [Gold Medallion]. |
| 04:21.27 | Duman | yeah, this UI scale reversion is annoying |
| 04:22.05 | Ackis | anyone illidan horde US that feels like some arenas w/ a disc priest? |
| 04:25.40 | Thunder_Child | ewww, horde |
| 04:29.47 | Ackis | I'm a troll too :P |
| 04:30.34 | Thunder_Child | is that supposed to be worse? |
| 04:31.42 | Ackis | yes |
| 04:32.10 | Thunder_Child | oh...well it isnt |
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| 04:37.10 | DARKGuy | Yay, I added a feature to Kirov's DiabloGlobes - when you're dead, the red globe will turn white instead of being empty, contrary to the power one which is always full when dead ^^ |
| 04:37.54 | Aznamir | Does anyone know why if I buff Blessing of Wisdom on a mage in my group it buff me as well? |
| 04:38.08 | Aznamir | not even greater blessing |
| 04:42.44 | MusicMan | is there a function to return the name of the NPC you're currently talking to? |
| 04:43.13 | Iriel | UnitName("npc") |
| 04:43.29 | MusicMan | how does that work? |
| 04:43.32 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:43.43 | Shirik | you query UnitName("npc"), you get the name of the NPC you're talking to |
| 04:43.50 | Xinhuan | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBuildInfo <-- this page is missing the 4th return value added in 2.4.2 :) |
| 04:44.41 | MusicMan | ...well...alright |
| 04:44.41 | MusicMan | thanks |
| 04:44.41 | MusicMan | :P |
| 04:44.41 | Shirik | it's pretty straightforward :P |
| 04:44.41 | MusicMan | I guess it was just a little too simple for me to understand O.o |
| 04:53.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: that's actually a wiki ;) |
| 04:53.26 | Diao | o_o |
| 04:53.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *hint hint* |
| 04:53.33 | Xinhuan | it is? Lol |
| 04:53.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. Written in lua. |
| 04:53.53 | Diao | someone on blackrock horde is spamming trade chat in chinese recruiting for his guild.. and those without unicode font subbed in for wow can't read it :p |
| 04:53.57 | Xinhuan | "The API Reference section of this website is copyright John Wiley & Sons." |
| 04:54.06 | Xinhuan | at the bottom of the page |
| 04:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the fourth return? |
| 04:54.25 | Xinhuan | the 4th return is the current valid toc number |
| 04:54.33 | Xinhuan | i.e 24000 on live and 30000 on beta |
| 04:54.43 | Xinhuan | or is it 20400 |
| 04:54.50 | Iriel | 20400 |
| 04:54.54 | Iriel | 2.4.0 |
| 04:54.58 | Iriel | 2 04 00 |
| 04:56.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Does it return it in string format by chance? |
| 04:56.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Or does it give it as an actual int? |
| 04:56.27 | ckknight | no, number |
| 04:57.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: refresh |
| 04:57.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: it's a wiki ;) |
| 04:57.24 | Xinhuan | you didn't update the signature |
| 04:57.31 | ScytheBlade1 | doh |
| 04:57.37 | Xinhuan | also i didn't check if the return value is a string or an int |
| 04:58.03 | Xinhuan | but i *think* its a string |
| 04:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight did (or at least I took his word for it) |
| 04:58.20 | Xinhuan | looks up wowwiki... it says string there |
| 04:58.22 | ckknight | it's a number, I've checked |
| 04:58.33 | ckknight | I could be mistaken |
| 04:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not in front of a client, so I can't check.. |
| 04:58.56 | ckknight | yea, number |
| 04:59.04 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBuildInfo guess this is wrong then |
| 04:59.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: also, if you have any questions/etc/*whatever* about that site, there's always #wowprogramming |
| 04:59.53 | Xinhuan | zzz rolling restarts tonight again |
| 05:03.18 | Mooninaut | is there any convenient way for frame scripts to refer to their children by name without a lot of getglobal(self:GetName().."_something") nonsense? |
| 05:04.43 | Mooninaut | basically I have a frame named Frame and a child named Frame_Child and I want to be able to refer to it in LUA as Frame.Child |
| 05:04.50 | krka | Mooninaut: I think you meant to say Lua there. |
| 05:05.12 | Nargiddley | save a reference to it when you create it, assuming you create them in lua |
| 05:05.43 | Mooninaut | I'm doing most of it in XML with templates |
| 05:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Mooninaut: In the OnLoad of your Frame_Child, do _G[self:GetParent():GetName()].child = self |
| 05:06.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (for example) |
| 05:06.31 | Mooninaut | is _G[yadda] short for GetGlobal(yadda)? |
| 05:06.44 | Iriel | Sort of |
| 05:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Whatever Iriel says on the matter :) (I really just know the basics) |
| 05:07.03 | Mooninaut | ooh, caveats, I love caveats |
| 05:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's one way to look at it, yes |
| 05:07.22 | Iriel | In the standard unadulterated environment they achieve the same purpose |
| 05:07.57 | Iriel | but getglobal requires a global symbol lookup (to find getglobal itself) and a function call dispatch |
| 05:08.05 | Iriel | while _G is (normally) a direct table index |
| 05:08.46 | Mooninaut | spiffy, thanks |
| 05:09.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Mooninaut: my line makes sense, yes? |
| 05:09.22 | Mooninaut | yeah |
| 05:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Good |
| 05:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, that'd be limited to a single child frame, but I can leave fixing that up to you ;) |
| 05:10.00 | Mooninaut | No trouble :D |
| 05:10.01 | ScytheBlade1 | (It should be simple, though) |
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| 05:10.14 | Iriel | Actually ScytheBlade1's example is silly |
| 05:10.23 | Iriel | you should do self:GetParent().child = self; |
| 05:10.35 | Iriel | there's no reason at all to do a global name lookup |
| 05:10.49 | Mooninaut | even better |
| 05:10.55 | Iriel | (But since you learned about _G en-route, it's not wasted) |
| 05:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, heh |
| 05:11.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Duh |
| 05:11.26 | Mooninaut | actually the _G[] is handy for children that aren't frames, like fontstrings |
| 05:12.17 | ScytheBlade1 | "silly" is being nice now that I look at that |
| 05:12.18 | Iriel | As is creating things from lua 8-) |
| 05:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:13.16 | Mooninaut | Well, I'm forcing myself to learn XML and templates as an exercise |
| 05:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I did the same not long ago |
| 05:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is mostly why my example is semi-mostly-almost entirely-retarded |
| 05:17.35 | Sixen | zz |
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| 05:35.52 | MusicMan | I was wondering if an experienced addon/lua coder could help me figure out how I should structure my addon I'm trying to write |
| 05:36.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 05:36.40 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 05:37.00 | MusicMan | I was thinking of pming someone, but I guess that works too |
| 05:38.31 | Iriel | If you can, briefly describe what the addon needs, and how you're thinking of organizing it |
| 05:38.32 | |pez| | You'll get more opinions if you ask in main chat. |
| 05:38.45 | Iriel | and i'm sure several of us will descend upon your ideas and give witty and insightful comments |
| 05:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ witty |
| 05:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel has a way with words ;) |
| 05:39.06 | Iriel | or else you'll get dead silence, and can cut and paste yuour question into a file, and ask it again in half an hour when we're awake |
| 05:39.18 | MusicMan | I'm trying to write an addon that stores questdata in savedvariables, so as I'm doing quests, it will store the name, objectives, x,y coord of the NPC, name of the NPC that gives out the quest, and store coords to act as waypoints when the quest updates (for example: if you kill 10 monsters, store coords of the spots where the monsters were to act as waypoints) |
| 05:39.51 | MusicMan | I'm not really sure how I should organize it since it'd have to store different things at different times I think |
| 05:40.06 | Xinhuan | you can try questdata[questID] = {some table} |
| 05:40.10 | Xinhuan | and add data to that table |
| 05:40.13 | Xinhuan | as you go along |
| 05:40.24 | Xinhuan | for each quest that is |
| 05:40.31 | MusicMan | so a table of tables? |
| 05:40.34 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 05:40.52 | Xinhuan | first table can be indexed by quest ID (an integer) |
| 05:41.07 | Xinhuan | then the sub table contains info pertaining to that quest |
| 05:41.11 | MusicMan | gotcha |
| 05:41.20 | Xinhuan | like .coordstart .coordend .name etc |
| 05:43.14 | MusicMan | well I'd need GetQuestLink, then break it up to find the questID right? |
| 05:43.20 | MusicMan | but I think I can only get that from the quest log |
| 05:46.29 | Sixen | http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg -- I lol'd. |
| 05:46.40 | MusicMan | love that pic |
| 05:46.57 | Sixen | It was truly epic. |
| 05:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen it before, but never on nasa.gov |
| 05:47.29 | MusicMan | xD |
| 05:48.02 | |pez| | I think it was a april 1st joke one nasa.gov once. |
| 05:48.06 | |pez| | or some nasa thing. |
| 05:48.09 | MusicMan | taken from my /b/ folder: http://i36.tinypic.com/ifu9ev.jpg |
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| 05:56.24 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone know of a map of northrend flight paths? |
| 05:57.03 | Sixen | hehe |
| 05:57.44 | Sixen | I'll be honest, I always laugh at this: http://tinyurl.com/Epic-Troll-ftw |
| 05:57.45 | starlon | actually they just discovered water |
| 05:58.16 | End | actually doing things is less funny |
| 05:58.17 | MusicMan | that's awesome |
| 05:58.19 | MusicMan | and yes they did |
| 05:58.35 | MusicMan | I remember seeing that on CNN in my bi-weekly 5 minutes of news |
| 05:59.17 | MusicMan | this is my favorite troll picture |
| 05:59.19 | MusicMan | http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/P3Shinobi/1192392913251.jpg |
| 05:59.58 | MusicMan | anyway, is there a function that returns your character's level? |
| 06:00.12 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitLevel() |
| 06:00.17 | MusicMan | damn |
| 06:00.25 | MusicMan | I was lookin through the unit section too, I guess I skipped over it |
| 06:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | level = UnitLevel("player") |
| 06:00.47 | MusicMan | yea...there it is :( |
| 06:00.50 | MusicMan | thanks ;) |
| 06:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | As a hint, if you can't find it on the API listing page, try searching the page for related names |
| 06:01.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Searching "Level" would bring you to it fairly quickly |
| 06:01.28 | MusicMan | duly noted |
| 06:01.34 | MusicMan | thanks |
| 06:01.36 | Thunder_Child | MusicMan, check the channel topic, there already is proof of water on mars |
| 06:01.59 | MusicMan | lol |
| 06:02.14 | MusicMan | you guys are so much nicer than other developer communities -.- |
| 06:02.32 | MusicMan | in others they're like "smite this noob to oblivion for his insolence" |
| 06:02.43 | MusicMan | or something like that |
| 06:03.03 | Thunder_Child | wait till we get and impatient (sp?) nub, then we go crazy |
| 06:03.03 | batbot | Thunder_Child, impatient is correct. |
| 06:03.30 | MusicMan | lol |
| 06:03.47 | Mooninaut | is there documentation on all these bots? |
| 06:03.59 | Thunder_Child | s/and/an/ |
| 06:03.59 | batbot | purl, impatient is correct. |
| 06:04.00 | purl | okay, batbot |
| 06:04.13 | MusicMan | ohh that makes more sense |
| 06:04.26 | MusicMan | I thought maybe you sneezed and typed and on accident, so I just took that out |
| 06:05.21 | Thunder_Child | well that could be said for most of my typeing |
| 06:05.30 | MusicMan | typing* |
| 06:05.34 | Mooninaut | why isn't my statusbar updating |
| 06:05.52 | Mooninaut | MOONINAUT SMASH FAULTY WIDGET |
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| 06:09.16 | Sixen | =o |
| 06:10.09 | Mooninaut | I had this addon working a couple hours ago |
| 06:10.14 | Mooninaut | then I decided to "fix" it |
| 06:10.30 | Cairenn | uh oh |
| 06:10.35 | Cairenn | that'll learn ya |
| 06:10.37 | Mooninaut | so now I have well refactored addon that sort of works |
| 06:10.43 | Cairenn | if it ain't broke ... |
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| 06:10.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It needs reworked from scratch. |
| 06:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 06:13.39 | End | They used the minimap textures for the northrend flight path interface |
| 06:13.58 | Aiiane | outdated TOC version checking is just >=, right? i.e. setting toc version 30000 won't cause issues for Live server addons |
| 06:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Allara: no, it's a strict == |
| 06:14.21 | Aiiane | hm |
| 06:14.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Allara: sorry! mistab |
| 06:14.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Aiiane: ^ ;) |
| 06:14.25 | Aiiane | .. |
| 06:14.26 | Aiiane | :P |
| 06:14.38 | End | lol |
| 06:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | If the TOC version isn't exactly equal, it'll display out of date |
| 06:14.49 | Aiiane | so it says that a toc30000 is outdated on a 2.4.3 client? o_O |
| 06:14.56 | ScytheBlade1 | If it's sub-20000, you get incompatable |
| 06:14.59 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 06:15.05 | Aiiane | that's... borky |
| 06:15.09 | Aiiane | oh well |
| 06:15.55 | Iriel | Why would accepting a non-equal TOC make sense at all? |
| 06:15.57 | End | uh oh... |
| 06:16.02 | Iriel | A number of LK addons wont work AT ALL on 2.4 |
| 06:16.02 | End | I should figure out what I clicked |
| 06:16.25 | Tekkub | TOC sucks either way :P |
| 06:16.46 | End | well crap |
| 06:16.56 | End | and then settings reset |
| 06:17.29 | Aiiane | Iriel: It'd be nicer to be able to specify a compatibility range :P |
| 06:17.55 | Aiiane | but failing that, it'd be nice to have a different indication |
| 06:18.02 | Aiiane | than "out of date" which implies its older |
| 06:18.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Aiiane: what would you suggest? (curious) |
| 06:18.35 | Aiiane | I'm trying to think of a good word as I was typing that |
| 06:18.54 | Aiiane | Inconsistent, maybe |
| 06:19.02 | ScytheBlade1 | o_0 |
| 06:19.16 | Aiiane | "Inconsistent Version" |
| 06:19.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. |
| 06:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Well in any case, you'll note how you're running into this issue... now. |
| 06:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And WoW's been around for years. |
| 06:19.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Kinda seems like an edge case. =] |
| 06:19.58 | Aiiane | somewhat. although same issue last beta too :P |
| 06:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure |
| 06:20.08 | Aiiane | edge case, but a clearly defined and reoccuring one |
| 06:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But no real motivitaing reason to change what works |
| 06:20.23 | Aiiane | and technically, it can always happen when testlive's up |
| 06:21.09 | Aiiane | Actually... what would be nice would be a way to have something like ## X-Test-Compat: true, be recognized by the beta client |
| 06:21.28 | Aiiane | but thats more trouble than its worth |
| 06:21.40 | Tekkub | it's the stupid TOC, who cares? tick load outdated and forget about it |
| 06:21.45 | Aiiane | :P |
| 06:22.00 | End | yeah, there's few people who don't have that ticked :P |
| 06:22.06 | End | I would imagine at least |
| 06:22.19 | Tekkub | only the "purists" that don't have addons |
| 06:22.31 | Mooninaut | I think I made my statusbar 0 height :-/ |
| 06:22.33 | Aiiane | My overall sentiment is it'd just be nicer to have the toc field actually mean something |
| 06:22.48 | Iriel | it's just a number |
| 06:22.48 | Aiiane | and have a real use in determining what will actually work with any given build |
| 06:22.54 | Iriel | equals means 'I have tested it against this version' |
| 06:22.58 | Iriel | and not equals means 'I have not' |
| 06:23.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Aiiane: it does. It means what version of WoW it works with. Not what it may/may not work with. |
| 06:23.13 | Tekkub | it does mean something... "this is the version of the game I confirm this works with" |
| 06:23.15 | Iriel | The complexity of being sure about what it will or will not work with is beyond what you think it is |
| 06:23.25 | Iriel | What if you specify a range, 20400 - 30000 |
| 06:23.26 | Aiiane | yeah ScytheBlade1, but there's no way to specify that it works with both versions :) |
| 06:23.35 | Iriel | and then they have to do an emergency 2.4.4 patch which changes something and breaks your addon |
| 06:23.45 | Iriel | You've now done all your users a DISSERVICE |
| 06:23.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is accomplished by labeling your addon in two different ways. "Live" and "Beta" |
| 06:23.53 | Aiiane | Iriel, could just make it so that you could specify a comma-delimited list |
| 06:23.56 | Mooninaut | what you'd have to do is an explicit list of versions |
| 06:23.59 | Aiiane | 20400,30000 |
| 06:24.03 | Iriel | Even then, the beta changes, 30000 is a moving target |
| 06:24.06 | Aiiane | then when 30000 becomes live, you can just drop that from the list |
| 06:24.07 | Iriel | you're arguing a silly point. |
| 06:24.10 | End | I think we're overthinking it |
| 06:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | 30000 will never be live |
| 06:24.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 30100 will be |
| 06:24.21 | Tekkub | 20001 |
| 06:24.23 | Aiiane | I'm not seriously proposing it Iriel, so don't take it as an argument |
| 06:24.25 | Aiiane | just musing |
| 06:24.26 | Tekkub | *30001 |
| 06:25.06 | Mooninaut | a space oddysey (sp?) |
| 06:25.07 | batbot | Mooninaut, nothing found. |
| 06:25.15 | Tekkub | here's something to muse about, stop updating it and pushing out releases on patch day and wasting the sites' bandwidth for one stupid number change :P |
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| 06:25.46 | Iriel | they've been pretty good about only updating it when there have been changes |
| 06:25.54 | Tekkub | update it locally and push out the change when a REAL change happens to the addon |
| 06:25.58 | Iriel | it's not like the old days when it was tied directly to the build # |
| 06:26.03 | Aiiane | Tekkub: That's what I do anyways |
| 06:26.09 | Tekkub | build number was bad, yea |
| 06:26.54 | Tekkub | I just wish they'd stop un-checking load outdated without telling the user after a patch |
| 06:27.04 | Aiiane | *nod* |
| 06:27.17 | Aiiane | if i wanted to skip it once, chances are i want to skip it every time |
| 06:27.19 | Tekkub | "YOu have addons that are out of date with the new patch, woudl you like to disable them? |
| 06:27.23 | Aiiane | (the versioncheck, that is) |
| 06:27.42 | Tekkub | if they want to make us reaccept the TOS all the time, they could ask us about damn addons |
| 06:27.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: it has its places... see the recent GM ticket bug |
| 06:28.03 | Aiiane | ScytheBlade1: the thing is |
| 06:28.14 | Tekkub | yea, and how well did it slow that down? :P |
| 06:28.15 | Aiiane | the majority of people will see "oh, no addons" and immediately log back out, check it, log back in |
| 06:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: if people updated their addons and didn't check the box, we wouldn't have had 24hour+ ticket queue times to talk to a GM |
| 06:28.20 | Aiiane | so they'll still run into the problem |
| 06:28.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: yeah, just saying ;) |
| 06:28.26 | Aiiane | just with more hassle beforehand |
| 06:28.50 | Shirik | sigh |
| 06:28.55 | Shirik | my router's QoS features are totally not working |
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| 06:29.13 | Mooninaut | Templates continue to confound me |
| 06:29.17 | Tekkub | Aiiane, yea, and anything that uses "IsUserPlaced" loses it's position when you log in without it enabled |
| 06:29.33 | Tekkub | tho honestly that's the dev's fault for not managing their own anchor |
| 06:29.52 | Aiiane | heh |
| 06:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Mooninaut: ? |
| 06:30.13 | Mooninaut | so I've got an OnLoad in a virtual widget, but if I put an OnLoad in the instantiated widget it overrides the base OnLoad |
| 06:30.24 | Iriel | Right |
| 06:30.33 | Mooninaut | Can I call the virtual one somehow? |
| 06:30.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It does |
| 06:30.45 | Tekkub | well hell, not that I got tekPopbar back, one thing is left missing from my UI.... OneBag.... KAEL! |
| 06:30.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that I know of, no |
| 06:30.56 | Iriel | No, usual approach is that the XML does <OnLoad>WhateverMyTemplateIs_OnLoad(self)</OnLoad> |
| 06:31.02 | Iriel | and you make it a normal lua function |
| 06:31.06 | Mooninaut | yeah that's what I was about to do |
| 06:31.07 | Iriel | then you can call it directly from your override |
| 06:31.21 | Tekkub | is there really any point to onload anymore? |
| 06:31.56 | Tekkub | maybe I'm just biased over here in my "never use XML" world |
| 06:31.58 | Iriel | It's handy for some templatey things |
| 06:32.26 | Iriel | but it's much less useful than it used to be pre CreateFrame |
| 06:32.28 | Shirik | Tekkub: Nothing wrong with "Never use XML" world :D |
| 06:32.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It has it's places |
| 06:32.59 | Tekkub | it does? |
| 06:34.56 | Iriel | I have to say I think XML gets a bit more hate than it deserves |
| 06:35.15 | ScytheBlade1 | The templating is something I've grown really fond of |
| 06:35.21 | Mooninaut | I'm having fun with templates right now |
| 06:35.24 | Tekkub | frame factories! |
| 06:35.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, yes indeed |
| 06:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I've done frame factories in lua before |
| 06:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | And you know, oh well. I like doing it in the XML! |
| 06:35.44 | Tekkub | I wouldn't hate XML if it didn't litter the fuck out of the global namespace |
| 06:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | :o |
| 06:36.04 | Mooninaut | yeah that part is annoying |
| 06:36.31 | Mooninaut | it'd be much nicer if I could declare a frame have a name like Addon.Frame instead of ADDON_FRAME |
| 06:37.16 | Mooninaut | I actually tried that when I got started and was confused when it didn't work |
| 06:38.55 | MusicMan | is there a Unit function that returns if the unit is a questgiver or merchant etc? |
| 06:39.16 | Nom- | Is there a file which defines the values for like SPELL_POWER_MANA ? |
| 06:39.18 | End | I didn't know dtchatevent still worked! |
| 06:39.31 | Aiiane | considering things can be combinations of those, MusicMan, probably not |
| 06:39.33 | End | I was sure it wouldn't work anymore |
| 06:39.43 | MusicMan | yea, I thought that might be the case |
| 06:39.45 | MusicMan | thanks |
| 06:39.53 | End | (Iriel is awesome, I guess) |
| 06:40.00 | MusicMan | I'm just not sure how I'm going to get all the information I need |
| 06:40.10 | Aiiane | what are you trying to do |
| 06:40.35 | MusicMan | store quest data, but also the NPC that gives the quest, and the x,y coordinate of the NPC |
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| 06:40.50 | Iriel | End: It only works because they didn't actually REMOVE this/argN yet |
| 06:40.50 | Rabbitbunny | Sounds cool. |
| 06:40.55 | End | oh |
| 06:40.58 | Iriel | End: I've still got to figure out what to do with ti, I have some ideas |
| 06:40.59 | End | I thought they did |
| 06:41.06 | Nom- | and where's that site which has diffs of the interface? :/ |
| 06:41.15 | Aiiane | wowcompares? |
| 06:41.21 | Nom- | that's it |
| 06:41.30 | Nom- | *adds to bookmarks this time |
| 06:41.33 | Aiiane | :P |
| 06:41.37 | Tekkub | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/tree |
| 06:41.39 | Tekkub | :P |
| 06:41.44 | Aiiane | lol |
| 06:41.51 | Mooninaut | Nom: Constants.lua |
| 06:42.01 | Iriel | End: It's largely a 'they will get removed eventually' at the moment |
| 06:44.17 | MusicMan | actually, I think I found a way that might work |
| 06:45.56 | Nom- | and now it does :D |
| 06:50.18 | Sixen | Is it just me or have the Beta servers gone kerplunk? |
| 06:50.43 | End | northrend server is fine |
| 06:50.54 | End | as in |
| 06:51.01 | Sixen | I can't connect to the realmlist, ;/ |
| 06:51.02 | End | the realm |
| 06:51.12 | End | (I have no idea about the zone) |
| 06:51.21 | End | weird, I just reconnected too |
| 06:51.28 | End | and it didn't cause me an issues |
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| 06:56.37 | MusicMan | I'm having trouble figuring out how I'm going to relate NPC name and location to the quest they have |
| 06:56.49 | Rabbitbunny | build a database? |
| 06:57.05 | MusicMan | could you be more specific in what you mean |
| 06:58.29 | Sixen | What's the 3.0.1 ToC? |
| 06:58.32 | Sixen | 30100? |
| 06:58.39 | End | the toc is currently 30000 |
| 06:58.43 | End | I think |
| 06:58.43 | Sixen | Alright. |
| 06:58.46 | Sixen | =x |
| 06:59.00 | End | the 4th value of GetBuildInfo() is toc, right? |
| 06:59.05 | End | if so, yes, its 30000 |
| 06:59.14 | Sixen | What's ToC stand for again? =X |
| 06:59.21 | End | table of contents probably |
| 06:59.22 | NightHawkTheSane | table of contents |
| 06:59.24 | Sixen | Qq. |
| 06:59.26 | Sixen | QQ |
| 06:59.34 | Sixen | How does that make any sense? =o |
| 06:59.38 | MusicMan | omg, that's what toc means O.O |
| 06:59.52 | End | How...does it not make sense? |
| 06:59.55 | NightHawkTheSane | because the ToC file is the table of contents for your addon, describing it's.. well.. contents.. |
| 06:59.58 | End | it's the table of contents for the...yeah |
| 07:00.03 | Xinhuan | its 20400 for live and 30000 in beta |
| 07:00.08 | Sixen | I guess that makes sense then.. |
| 07:00.39 | Rabbitbunny | lua> questgivers = { ["Jimmy"] = { ["loc"] = { ["x"] = 5, ["y"] = 17, ["map"] = "Elwynn" }, ["quests"] = { ["killguys"] = "go kill guys over there" } } print(questgivers["Jimmy"]["loc"]["x"]) |
| 07:00.40 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: '}' expected near 'print' |
| 07:00.55 | End | so |
| 07:00.58 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: like that, but with less errors ^ |
| 07:01.00 | End | the linkable tradeskills |
| 07:01.09 | End | has anyone investigated what some of the fields mean? |
| 07:01.23 | End | some of them are obvious, but the G followed by a bunch of zeroes puzzles me |
| 07:01.42 | End | (I'm talking about the link of course) |
| 07:02.10 | MusicMan | I'm not really seeing how that solves my problem =/ |
| 07:02.38 | ScytheBlade1 | End: no |
| 07:02.40 | kd3 | take a look at how some of the database site mods work? |
| 07:02.58 | ScytheBlade1 | End: we've doen a /lot/ of poking and no one has figured it out yet. Everything we know points to mystic voodoo done C-side |
| 07:03.11 | End | ah |
| 07:03.16 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: THen you just find a hook for OMFG_GOT_A_QUEST and have it shove stuff in the db, add a browser for searching the db... maybe a trackers... |
| 07:03.46 | End | well |
| 07:03.57 | End | I'll try to poke around a little...doubt I'll find anything though |
| 07:04.04 | Sixen | I just noticed.. |
| 07:04.10 | ScytheBlade1 | By all means do so |
| 07:04.11 | Sixen | There's a Battle.net.dll in the Beta Folder.. |
| 07:04.36 | Sixen | Mm |
| 07:04.45 | Sixen | But, why call it Battle.net? |
| 07:04.48 | ScytheBlade1 | But the UI only contains a single reference to that, and it is a function that checks "something" to determine if the tradeskill window is linked or not, and if it is, disabled the "do stuff" button |
| 07:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: there's also fun debuf stuff about the SC2 launcher if you know where to look. |
| 07:05.02 | Sixen | It's not a Battle.net account, it's a Blizzard Account. |
| 07:05.08 | Sixen | ~ |
| 07:05.15 | Sixen | In the Battle.net.dll? |
| 07:05.29 | MusicMan | Rabbitbunny: I want it to be able just automatically add the NPC to a database of quests, not make an NPC database first |
| 07:05.31 | Iriel | I think the point is that they may be moving to a unified communications/login platform (battle.net) for all their games |
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| 07:05.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Whenever I run the Launcher in wine, I get a fair bit of debug info printed to my console concerning the installed SC2 Launcher |
| 07:05.56 | Sixen | Mmmmmm, that's what it's looking life. |
| 07:05.58 | Sixen | like* |
| 07:06.00 | Iriel | MusicMan: I /think/ RB's point is, once you figure out the structure you can fill it however you want |
| 07:06.19 | MusicMan | well that's what I'm trying to figure out, I just don't know how to do it -.- |
| 07:06.35 | Rabbitbunny | Iriel: Yes. |
| 07:06.53 | Sixen | @Sbo: So, where would I look? ;). |
| 07:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | sec, let me fire up the launcher |
| 07:07.26 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: I use post cards, ever card is a table, then I cna move them around easily while thinking about the data. |
| 07:07.31 | DARKGuy | SC2 launcher? Starcraft2? |
| 07:07.35 | kd3 | bah. wtb mpq extractor that'll pull the avi out and not try to play it |
| 07:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 07:07.48 | DARKGuy | wtf, SC2 isn't out yet... right? |
| 07:07.51 | Sixen | Right. |
| 07:07.57 | MusicMan | post cards?? |
| 07:08.05 | Sixen | But there's a version of "Battle.net.dll" included in the WotLK Beta. |
| 07:08.11 | Sixen | So they're starting to unify things imo/ |
| 07:08.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: http://wowi.pastey.net/93421 |
| 07:08.30 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: maybe you know them by a different name... *looks for box* |
| 07:08.36 | Sixen | Lawl. |
| 07:08.42 | DARKGuy | oh yay, the same launcher for WoW and SC2 |
| 07:08.44 | Mooninaut | 3x5 cards? |
| 07:08.51 | Rabbitbunny | yeah! |
| 07:08.51 | MusicMan | oh |
| 07:08.57 | Mooninaut | index cards |
| 07:08.58 | MusicMan | you were being literal |
| 07:09.03 | MusicMan | lol |
| 07:09.43 | MusicMan | well that doesn't help me much either |
| 07:09.54 | MusicMan | I dunno, I'll keep thinking |
| 07:10.33 | Mooninaut | I open a text file and make little trees in pseudostructure |
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| 07:11.05 | Sixen | How'd you go about viewing that stuff, sbo? |
| 07:11.16 | MusicMan | I would if I had any semblance of how I was going to do this |
| 07:11.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I started the launcher from the console |
| 07:11.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Try running it from cmd.exe and see what happens? (maybe) |
| 07:14.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, this also means that the launcher is scanning the registry for SC2... which likely means that it's in alpha, in distribution.. |
| 07:14.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *fires up the windows box* |
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| 07:15.08 | Sixen | Nope |
| 07:15.09 | kd3 | rofl. mplayer can directly play the wc3 cinematic "mpqs" |
| 07:15.12 | Sixen | Tried it in cmd.exe |
| 07:15.16 | Sixen | Trying it in Cygwin now |
| 07:15.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Couldn't tell you then :( |
| 07:15.27 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yeah, they're .avi renamed to .mpq |
| 07:15.51 | Sixen | lol |
| 07:15.56 | kd3 | VIDEO: [BLZ0] 800x368 24bpp 24.000 fps 1015.0 kbps (123.9 kbyte/s) |
| 07:15.57 | Sixen | Doesn't work in Cygwin either, it doesn't show anything |
| 07:16.04 | Sixen | What do you do, just start the launcher from the console? |
| 07:16.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: it just might be wine debug stuff. |
| 07:16.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 07:16.14 | ScytheBlade1 | `wine Launcher.exe` |
| 07:16.20 | Sixen | Any chance you could take a screenie for me? |
| 07:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Of what exactly? The console? |
| 07:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I just pasted you the text that pops up |
| 07:17.12 | Iriel | Just find a linux machine and do strings Launcher.exe |
| 07:17.21 | Iriel | you'll see tons of StarCraft stuff |
| 07:17.37 | ScytheBlade1 | "MainURLSC2" |
| 07:17.39 | ScytheBlade1 | WHOO |
| 07:17.46 | Iriel | I'm not sure it means much beyond 'they know how the launcher will work', which shouldn't be surprising given how far along it likely is. |
| 07:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, heh |
| 07:17.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://bl-backpack/Launcher/SC2/ |
| 07:17.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Internal URLs ftl |
| 07:19.47 | Thunder_Child | this...sculpture sold for /13.5 million dollars/ W T F. (nsfw) http://www.assemblylanguage.com/artpiecepictures/Murakami.JPG |
| 07:20.15 | DARKGuy | lmao |
| 07:20.19 | Sixen | Oh my god. |
| 07:20.29 | Sixen | strings launcher.exe = Wall of txt. |
| 07:20.29 | DARKGuy | reminds me of the "I am rich" apple screensaver |
| 07:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: strings Launcher.exe | less |
| 07:20.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I win |
| 07:21.03 | DARKGuy | There's always somebody who will buy anything you put on sale, no matter at what price :P |
| 07:21.06 | kd3 | it's still thousands of lines of crap |
| 07:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yeah, but then you hit / and type "SC2" ;) |
| 07:21.22 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Actually, I logged into the wrong char |
| 07:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 07:21.27 | Shirik | Why would I log into alliance, seriously |
| 07:21.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I still win! |
| 07:21.32 | Thunder_Child | but that much.....FAIL, i like art as much as the next person, but FIAL |
| 07:21.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Uhh, because that's where most /everyone/ is? ;) |
| 07:21.42 | Thunder_Child | s/FIAL/FAIL/ |
| 07:22.11 | End | well, I did find a bug... clicking my own first aid link prints out doubles for each item |
| 07:22.17 | kd3 | anyone know offhand what the vim command to say "delete everything from the beginning of the file to here"? |
| 07:22.45 | Thunder_Child | l2manpage |
| 07:22.48 | Thunder_Child | :) |
| 07:22.48 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I did... but here's another way! enter command mode, hit v, mash page up, and then hit d |
| 07:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | v = visual select |
| 07:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | d = nuke what's selected |
| 07:23.21 | MusicMan | so I'm thinking of making a frame that has a button, and you click a button in the frame and it adds the currently selected NPC to the currently selected quest in the questlog O.O |
| 07:23.21 | kd3 | vggd |
| 07:23.33 | Sixen | Sbo, any chance you can give me a working screenie? <3. |
| 07:23.52 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: relying on user input is great way to get errors. |
| 07:24.01 | MusicMan | well I can't think of any other way |
| 07:24.15 | MusicMan | why would that give any errors |
| 07:24.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: I've only got console output, which I pasted to you. If you want a screenshot of that, then sure |
| 07:24.22 | Sixen | That'd be sexy. |
| 07:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
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| 07:27.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/sc2-screenshot.png |
| 07:27.18 | Sixen | <3 |
| 07:27.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It really isn't much, heh |
| 07:27.31 | ScytheBlade1 | But enjoy |
| 07:28.56 | MusicMan | Rabbitbunny: how would that give me any errors? |
| 07:29.39 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: think of something that could be done wrong. That's what the user will do. http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(Full_List) GOSSIP_SHOW there's a lot with QUEST too. |
| 07:29.52 | Thunder_Child | It was midnight on the ocean/Not a horse car was in sight/The sun was shining brightly/For it rained all day that night/Twas summer in the winter/And the rain was snowing fast/While a barefoot boy with shoes on/Stood sitting in the grass |
| 07:30.05 | MusicMan | I'm the only one that's going to be using this addon |
| 07:30.48 | MusicMan | I've looked through the quest and gossip events, so I guess I'm missing something |
| 07:30.57 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: You say 'select quest, then select related NPC'. So... I select a quest completed without leaving Darnasuss, then select the Auctioneer in Stormwind. |
| 07:31.25 | MusicMan | like I said, I'm the only one that's going to be using this addon, so I'd know what to do, and know to be careful :P |
| 07:31.29 | Rabbitbunny | MusicMan: If you're not making it for the community, why is the community offering you support? |
| 07:31.43 | MusicMan | if you want it, you can have it |
| 07:31.44 | Iriel | I dont think it matters if someone is making it 'for themselves' or 'for all' |
| 07:31.49 | MusicMan | :P |
| 07:32.07 | MusicMan | I'm just not going to put it up on a site or anything |
| 07:32.15 | Rabbitbunny | Just a little thing to think about ;) |
| 07:32.25 | MusicMan | I'm making it for me and whoever else may want it for some reason, but I'm not going out of my way to put it out there |
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| 07:33.11 | Iriel | I've had several addons start as pet projects, then later become useful to others |
| 07:33.19 | Iriel | (and some that never did, and are ONLY pet projects) |
| 07:33.36 | Rabbitbunny | Whatever, distro doesn't matter. You should probably first get some events, register for them and walk around accepting quests, see what sort of data the API offers you. |
| 07:34.20 | Ackis | MusicMan: be careful :P |
| 07:34.29 | MusicMan | ? |
| 07:34.45 | Ackis | MusicMan: ARL was "just for me" and it kinda blew up in my face that way |
| 07:34.54 | MusicMan | ARL? |
| 07:34.58 | Ackis | ~arl |
| 07:34.59 | purl | methinks arl is a poorly named add-on (8% lame), 92% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however, and where to get them. It will work on Wrath of the Lich King beta servers as well. |
| 07:35.53 | MusicMan | k... |
| 07:36.00 | Rabbitbunny | And it will kill you. Enchant Gloves +2 Herbalism wont drop. I've been grinding there forever... You have killed me Ackis, killed me I say. |
| 07:36.05 | Ackis | hahaha |
| 07:36.26 | Rabbitbunny | :D |
| 07:36.53 | Shirik | siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh |
| 07:36.58 | Shirik | ~lart ScytheBlade1 for using KDE |
| 07:36.58 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of ScytheBlade1 for using KDE |
| 07:37.13 | Ackis | hamstercrap? hawt |
| 07:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 07:37.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik, I've used KDE for /years/ |
| 07:37.55 | Shirik | oh, I'm sorry |
| 07:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not ^________^ |
| 07:38.03 | Shirik | is there any brain matter left? |
| 07:38.19 | ScytheBlade1 | The only window managers I use would be KDE and Fluxbox |
| 07:38.37 | Shirik | gnome ftw? |
| 07:38.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ftl? |
| 07:38.46 | Shirik | Aren't you a gnome? |
| 07:38.48 | Rabbitbunny | no... xcfe ftw. |
| 07:38.53 | Thunder_Child | KDE > gnome |
| 07:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | yes, and the window manager called "gnome" |
| 07:38.59 | ScytheBlade1 | SUCKS |
| 07:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 07:39.49 | ScytheBlade1 | If I wanted a window manager that tried to "just work" I'd be using OSX |
| 07:39.58 | kd3 | xfce <3 |
| 07:40.01 | End | pssh, emacs beats kde and gnome any day of the week *wink wink* |
| 07:40.19 | Ackis | Vista > KDE |
| 07:40.21 | kd3 | pass on escape-meta-ctrl-alt-shift, kthx |
| 07:40.30 | End | emacs jokes will never grow old! |
| 07:40.32 | Thunder_Child | damit Ackis, you beat me, i was just gonna do that |
| 07:40.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.linux.com/articles/114231 <-- Linus may have been inflammatory there, but I agree with him 100% |
| 07:40.36 | End | well, actually, they probably will |
| 07:40.36 | Ackis | hah |
| 07:40.44 | End | but I |
| 07:40.48 | End | but I'll still make them |
| 07:41.14 | Shirik | yeah well, Linus is an idiot when it comes to getting involved in passionate debates imo |
| 07:41.18 | Shirik | I'll probably be shot for saying this |
| 07:41.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Just saying. |
| 07:41.32 | ScytheBlade1 | He finds gnome limiting /because it is/, and that echos my sentiments on the matter exactly. |
| 07:41.34 | Thunder_Child | thats cuse only the weirdos get women |
| 07:41.43 | End | yeah |
| 07:41.46 | End | use self now |
| 07:41.57 | End | this is so pre-wrath |
| 07:42.00 | Shirik | I don't really want a window manager when I'm in Linux anyway :P |
| 07:42.14 | Shirik | And last I checked, gnome takes up way less resources than KDE |
| 07:42.20 | Mooninaut | I dislike gnome and kde equally |
| 07:43.01 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cairenn |
| 07:43.01 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Cairenn feel it |
| 07:43.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't know what you're smoking, but no. :) |
| 07:43.17 | Shirik | so you're arguing the opposite? |
| 07:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Truth be told I'm just arguing to argue. KDE does what I need it to without inhibiting me by trying to "just work" and failing miserably |
| 07:43.55 | ScytheBlade1 | xfce is a better gnome than gnome will ever be, sorry |
| 07:44.06 | Shirik | QNX > Linux too :P |
| 07:44.20 | Iriel | All modern window managers suck, tvtwm FTW |
| 07:44.31 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 07:44.39 | Shirik | For a purly user-based environment, I will probably stick with Windows until I have a good reason to switch |
| 07:44.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I think Iriel just won |
| 07:44.49 | Shirik | Iriel always wins |
| 07:44.53 | Sixen | What else is new? |
| 07:44.57 | Sixen | :P |
| 07:45.07 | Iriel | Shirik: Have you tasted OSX? |
| 07:45.14 | Mooninaut | it tastes like fruit |
| 07:45.22 | Shirik | nope, and don't intend to :P |
| 07:45.23 | Iriel | Delicious fruit |
| 07:45.24 | Sixen | Rofl |
| 07:45.27 | Mooninaut | with a hint of sulfur from the BSD underpinnings |
| 07:45.41 | Shirik | The reason isn't "This is better" to switch to OSX |
| 07:45.47 | Shirik | Or anything |
| 07:45.58 | End | are you licking it? |
| 07:45.59 | Shirik | The reason should be "This is worse" to go away from Windows |
| 07:46.21 | Shirik | And as of yet, I don't see a valid argument for me to switch away from what I have now (be it Vista, Gnome, QNX, whatever) |
| 07:46.35 | Shirik | That being said, my laptop sadly has KDE on it |
| 07:46.36 | End | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/book.html#VERY-VERY-COOL |
| 07:46.43 | Mooninaut | I saw a magazine article the other day on how to make vista "tolerable" |
| 07:46.55 | Shirik | I have found vista tolerable since day 1 |
| 07:47.05 | End | Linux tastes like purple haze |
| 07:47.16 | Shirik | Because I (a) don't have a prejudice against microsoft, and (b) find UAC to be a good thing |
| 07:47.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: it should be noted that I don't use any desktop icons on any machine I use, and I launch linux apps exclusively from the alt+F2 run dialog |
| 07:47.32 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I do that too, except it pisses me off at school |
| 07:47.37 | Shirik | where you can't use ANY of the damn shortcuts |
| 07:47.43 | Shirik | Windows+R, Windows+E, all blocked |
| 07:47.54 | Shirik | yet you can double click on "My Computer" or go start->run->command prompt |
| 07:47.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:48.13 | Shirik | That's why I'm glad I have access to private labs at the school |
| 07:48.18 | Shirik | We kicked IT out of one of the labs |
| 07:48.26 | Shirik | Because they kept breaking VxWorks |
| 07:48.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 07:49.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I have really tried to use gnome in the past |
| 07:49.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Hated every second of it for a good week |
| 07:50.13 | Shirik | Fact of the matter stands, though, nobody has been able to give me a solid reason to change what I have now |
| 07:50.22 | Shirik | for about a year now |
| 07:50.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Then don't. |
| 07:50.39 | Shirik | !! |
| 07:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | See: me using KDE 3.5, read: not 4.0 |
| 07:50.42 | Shirik | WindRiver has an ICE now?! |
| 07:52.12 | Mooninaut | buh? |
| 07:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080908_173827.jpg <-- I really like this screenshot. |
| 07:54.21 | kd3 | lmao |
| 07:54.23 | Mooninaut | huh |
| 07:54.44 | End | haha |
| 07:54.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Also see http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080908_173837.jpg |
| 07:55.25 | Mooninaut | kaboom |
| 07:55.51 | MusicMan | wtf xD |
| 07:58.46 | End | so |
| 07:58.51 | Shirik | no |
| 07:58.57 | End | I think I know what that last tradeskill link bit is... |
| 07:59.06 | End | it appears to be a list of what you know encoded somehow... |
| 07:59.20 | End | I got it add a P! |
| 07:59.24 | End | by gaining one recipe |
| 07:59.29 | MusicMan | thanks to any who helped me, I really appreciate it |
| 07:59.42 | End | (unfortunately, that helps me none) |
| 07:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | That's quite possibly my only really creative moment when it comes do doing things in WoW |
| 08:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | "Hmm, I have this MASSIVE BOMB that I should not have. What to do?" |
| 08:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "NUKE THE KING OF STORMWIND!" |
| 08:00.38 | Iriel | End: So what is it? |
| 08:01.05 | End | hold on one sec |
| 08:02.24 | End | http://wowi.pastey.net/93425 |
| 08:02.48 | End | I could be wrong of course |
| 08:03.04 | End | and I'm surprised noone else tried what I tried |
| 08:03.27 | End | I need to go learn some more patterns and see how else it changes, but that means I need copper :( |
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| 08:04.05 | Mooninaut | no money? which server are you on? |
| 08:04.14 | Iriel | What's the guess, that it's some kind of encoding of a bitfield of recipes? |
| 08:04.18 | Cairenn | btw, have you guys seen this? specifically you Iriel: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765690755&sid=2000 |
| 08:04.25 | End | that's what I'm guessing |
| 08:04.56 | End | Mooninaut: I'm on northrend...got some money, but I don't dare check the AH for mats |
| 08:05.03 | Iriel | Cairenn: I corrected it several hours ago, but thanks for checking |
| 08:05.05 | End | (beta of course) |
| 08:05.10 | Cairenn | Okay |
| 08:05.24 | End | gah, still forgot to buy a mining pick |
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| 08:17.01 | Cairenn | Mooninaut, you keep growing a tail |
| 08:17.20 | Mooninaut | flaky internets |
| 08:17.31 | End | there's a joke to be made there, I'm sure |
| 08:17.39 | Thunder_Child | but tek is the furry one |
| 08:17.48 | End | that'd be a joke to be made |
| 08:17.55 | cncfanatics | the dk starting story rocks :o |
| 08:18.00 | End | cncfanatics: no kidding |
| 08:19.49 | Mooninaut | I feel it helps to play german industrial metal while playing the DK |
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| 08:23.09 | Maldivia | *yawn* morning |
| 08:24.39 | Cairenn | hi Maldivia |
| 08:25.10 | Maldivia | I hate my slow Internet right now... |
| 08:28.28 | Maldivia | downloading US version of wow+tbc+wotlk+patches - takes its time |
| 08:31.12 | zenzelezz | what the Internet needs is wormholes or some other way to manipulate the time-space continuum |
| 08:32.09 | Mooninaut | couldn't find inherited node, huh |
| 08:32.54 | Mooninaut | oh, probably because my lua file is listed before my xml file |
| 08:33.14 | End | Iriel: yeah, it's an encoded list |
| 08:33.27 | End | supposedly I can make Dark Iron Mail now :P |
| 08:34.45 | Iriel | night |
| 08:34.48 | End | night |
| 08:35.17 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone know if the threat events fire more frequently with this patch, or are we still in the dark when tanking, and noone is really close? |
| 08:35.21 | Maldivia | night Iriel |
| 08:35.34 | Iriel | The events only fire when the status thresholds are reached |
| 08:35.36 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Iriel |
| 08:35.41 | cladhaire | Maldivia: what do you mean you're in the dark? |
| 08:35.47 | Mooninaut | I wish there was a way to reload .toc files without exiting the game |
| 08:36.20 | Maldivia | cladhaire: well, yeah ok, I know noone is close, so I'm safe - but still, it's a bit alarming that nothing is "moving" :) |
| 08:37.11 | cladhaire | well, it doesn't fire until someone is within 70%, yeah |
| 08:38.00 | zenzelezz | the threat meter addons could use old threat calculation code to add an "estimated threat" bar beyond what the game has told you about accurate values perhaps |
| 08:38.07 | Maldivia | cladhaire: was just thinking of encounter like Vael, where the tank suddently will die, and the next on the list has to take over. If you don't get list updates you have no idea if you're second or not :) |
| 08:38.36 | Maldivia | not that it's neccesary, we did Vael back then without the help of threat-meters, was just an example |
| 08:38.51 | cladhaire | well ideally there's not a 30% disparity between #1 and #2 on the threat list |
| 08:39.06 | cladhaire | otherwise you may have larger problems :P |
| 08:39.28 | Maldivia | hehe, true |
| 08:40.03 | Arrowmaster | the event doesnt fire but you can still query the functions more often for more accurate info right? |
| 08:40.06 | Nom- | ./ding |
| 08:40.22 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: the function return value doesn't update unless the event fires |
| 08:40.29 | zenzelezz | -bash: ./ding: No such file or directory |
| 08:40.31 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
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| 08:41.02 | Maldivia | or well, haven't tested with latest 8770 build, as I haven't been able to log on since patch |
| 08:41.46 | Arrowmaster | damn that does seem like a major problem, since then it wont fire if nobody goes above the tank but they do go above the offtank that they arent suppost to right? |
| 08:42.08 | Maldivia | yeah |
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| 08:42.16 | End | it booted me! |
| 08:42.38 | Arrowmaster | sounds like we need to ask them to update it whenever possitions on the threatlist change |
| 08:43.05 | Maldivia | but that can increse the bandwidth by a lot |
| 08:43.07 | cladhaire | thats potentially a LOT |
| 08:43.13 | cladhaire | and unnecessary |
| 08:43.25 | cladhaire | you really don't care about the thread of anyone below 60% |
| 08:43.26 | Arrowmaster | or maybe limit it to the top 5 |
| 08:43.35 | cladhaire | if they're not doing 60% threat.. they're a drain on your raid |
| 08:43.53 | Maldivia | cladhaire: and what about in cases with bosses with -50% threat abilities? |
| 08:43.54 | zenzelezz | assuming they're DPS |
| 08:44.16 | cladhaire | zenzelezz: even your healers should be reasonable threat behind the DPS |
| 08:45.00 | cladhaire | Maldivia: aye, there are definitely issues |
| 08:45.00 | zenzelezz | reasonable, yes, but 60%? I wouldn't actually know for sure how high they go, I never showed more than top 10 |
| 08:45.38 | cladhaire | top 10 is ordering, not relative threat |
| 08:46.43 | cladhaire | its only the tanks and those who are higher than 70% we're really worried about |
| 08:46.46 | cladhaire | so maybe they'll help |
| 08:47.27 | Neo|Home | still seems like there will be a real need for a guestimator threat meter |
| 08:47.34 | Neo|Home | although, of course, it can be made to be A LOT more accurate |
| 08:49.12 | cladhaire | or we can report the issues with the system and they can fixc it |
| 08:49.22 | cladhaire | or we can test it and see that we're wrong, and its not really a problem |
| 08:49.49 | cladhaire | yay beta! |
| 08:50.08 | Mooninaut | are there any addons that display threat using the new api for the whole party? |
| 08:50.24 | Maldivia | I made one on 10 minutes, so I would think so |
| 08:50.42 | cladhaire | Mooninaut: the default UI does this using the diamonds, is that not sufficient? |
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| 08:51.41 | Mooninaut | well I'm writing one and I was wondering if anyone else has done it already |
| 08:53.02 | leethal | does Lua have any built-in way of doing something like this? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93426 |
| 08:53.31 | Arrowmaster | string.gsub |
| 08:53.53 | Xinhuan | [8/10 16:35:22] <@Iriel> The events only fire when the status thresholds are reached <--- |
| 08:53.57 | Xinhuan | so we still need to estimate threat? |
| 08:54.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.gsub(":name enabled Last Stand, lasting :time seconds.", "$%S+", {name = "Foo", time = 5}) |
| 08:54.52 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: :name enabled Last Stand, lasting :time seconds., 0 |
| 08:55.03 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.gsub(":name enabled Last Stand, lasting :time seconds.", ":%S+", {name = "Foo", time = 5}) |
| 08:55.04 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: :name enabled Last Stand, lasting :time seconds., 2 |
| 08:55.16 | Arrowmaster | gee i fail |
| 08:55.32 | leethal | =P |
| 08:55.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.gsub(":name enabled Last Stand, lasting :time seconds.", ":(%S+)", {name = "Foo", time = 5}) |
| 08:55.56 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Foo enabled Last Stand, lasting 5 seconds., 2 |
| 08:57.14 | Xinhuan | that seems unwieldy |
| 08:58.03 | Arrowmaster | thats the oneline example |
| 08:58.16 | Arrowmaster | proper use would have the table as a local |
| 08:58.28 | Arrowmaster | or use a function |
| 08:58.50 | Xinhuan | wouldn't format() still be faster |
| 08:59.06 | Arrowmaster | if its an option yes |
| 08:59.26 | Arrowmaster | but for example format isnt used in the blizzard combatlog, gsub is |
| 08:59.31 | Arrowmaster | well was |
| 08:59.37 | Arrowmaster | now its replace |
| 09:00.15 | Arrowmaster | but thats because they strung many gsubs together instead of making a single replacement like that |
| 09:00.38 | Xinhuan | Cairenn, if we upload a wotlk beta mod to the wotlk download category, its considered a "new mod upload"? |
| 09:00.55 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: to what purpose? ie count for a key? |
| 09:01.09 | Xinhuan | for the purpose of just uploading a beta mod |
| 09:01.25 | Xinhuan | or do i just mark an addon as wotlk compatible or what? |
| 09:01.42 | Cairenn | ahhhh ... no, for right now, upload a separate versioin |
| 09:01.51 | Xinhuan | ok i have an addon, i've updated the code to work in both live and wotlk beta |
| 09:01.56 | Xinhuan | do i upload 2 copies of the same addon? |
| 09:02.02 | Xinhuan | to the actual category |
| 09:02.07 | Xinhuan | and to the wotlk category? |
| 09:02.08 | Cairenn | yup |
| 09:02.22 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 09:03.14 | Cairenn | we're going to be adding the wotlk compatible flag and some extra code shortly so that you won't have to do that, but D.olby is heading out of town part way through the week next week so it won't happen until after he gets back |
| 09:04.21 | Xinhuan | so later on at one stage, you'll just be deleting all wotlk category mods right? |
| 09:04.28 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 09:04.53 | Cairenn | or if there isn't an existing "live" version, we will move it to a "live" category if the author asks us to do so |
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| 09:05.02 | Cairenn | that's how we handled it last time too |
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| 09:23.51 | Mooninaut | so how does one join one of the UI dev guilds? |
| 09:24.07 | Slakah1 | whisper anyone and ask for an invite |
| 09:24.21 | Cairenn | you do a /who g [guild] |
| 09:24.52 | Mooninaut | ok then |
| 09:24.58 | Cairenn | and if no one is in game, you ask in here if someone can pop in to guild you |
| 09:26.18 | Fisker- | but what about those who stole an addon and the original author didn't update it further, and then so he can't update it either? |
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| 09:37.37 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 11:01.52 | Mera | someone know other site like wowcompares.com but with more compare function |
| 11:02.51 | Cairenn | what do you need that that doesn't provide? I'm sure beladona would appreciate the feedback |
| 11:04.06 | Rabbitbunny | lua> 720/12 |
| 11:04.07 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: 60 |
| 11:04.13 | Rabbitbunny | err... |
| 11:04.54 | Mera | ha no nvm cairenn i havent seen the link to have diff displayed |
| 11:05.17 | Cairenn | heh, okay |
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| 12:34.17 | Nom- | wowzers... character copy queue is up to 2 days now! |
| 12:34.24 | Nom- | i should have copied all my characters earlier :P |
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| 12:50.26 | laeg | Slakah1: /cast [mod:alt] Backstab; [nomod:alt] Sinister Strike |
| 12:50.56 | laeg | has the same effect as /run if IsAltKeyDown() then Outfitter:WearOutfitByName("Rogue: Stealth") else Outfitter:WearOutfitByName("Normal") end |
| 12:52.26 | laeg | it works for anouy 45 minutes and then outfitter goes apeshit, any ideas? |
| 12:52.30 | laeg | *about |
| 12:53.31 | foxlit | "has the same effect" well, no |
| 12:53.42 | foxlit | or yes :) |
| 12:54.17 | foxlit | I was going to comment on what would happen when you hold multiple modifiers, but that doesn't actually cause any issues. [nomod:alt] is also redundant |
| 12:54.33 | foxlit | As for Outfitter, check what it does in its code |
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| 13:02.44 | foxlit | Wyverns path directly through the new dalaran bubble :P |
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| 13:06.51 | Xinhuan | can some tell me if the death knight starting area has any nodes/herbs, etc? |
| 13:06.56 | Xinhuan | scarlet enclave that is |
| 13:07.10 | nevcairiel | i didnt see any, but might be due to lack of tracking abilities =P |
| 13:07.27 | foxlit | There aren't any trainers, either |
| 13:07.30 | Xinhuan | if there aren't any profession trainers there, there shouldn't be |
| 13:07.32 | foxlit | so any herbs would be completely useless |
| 13:08.14 | Xinhuan | cos both ScarletEnclave and EasternPlaguelands atm translates to "Eastern Plaguelands", so that fucked up Gathermate, so i've coded it to ignore scarlet enclave totally now |
| 13:10.00 | nevcairiel | maybe they'll change that at some point |
| 13:10.24 | nevcairiel | it doesnt show any zone name in the map dropdowns most of the time |
| 13:10.42 | ckknight | it acts like a battlegrounds |
| 13:11.48 | nevcairiel | acts like a normal zone for me, thats just bugged =P |
| 13:11.57 | nevcairiel | like the dalaran map |
| 13:12.02 | nevcairiel | both seem to be bugged somehow |
| 13:12.11 | Xinhuan | well check the continent 2 zones list |
| 13:12.29 | Xinhuan | map 9 and 10 both returns Eastern Plaguelands heh |
| 13:12.37 | Xinhuan | the mapfile is different though |
| 13:12.39 | nevcairiel | i know there is two epl in there, thats why i think they'll rename one |
| 13:12.51 | Xinhuan | i think ck found a similar issue |
| 13:13.40 | Xinhuan | not sure what he means by acts as a battleground though |
| 13:13.47 | Xinhuan | u mean that starting zone is an instance by itself? |
| 13:14.07 | nevcairiel | its on a different server then EPL, though |
| 13:14.13 | nevcairiel | probably on the northrend server |
| 13:14.45 | foxlit | custom loading screens, however |
| 13:14.56 | nevcairiel | like ghostlands etc is on the outlands server ;) |
| 13:15.48 | foxlit | Which uses the outland screen? |
| 13:16.04 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 13:16.14 | nevcairiel | I rarely go there |
| 13:16.24 | foxlit | They do :) |
| 13:16.59 | foxlit | It's probably easy to check - just need to summon the death knight to northrend |
| 13:17.02 | nevcairiel | thats part of the world i still need for my exploration achievement |
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| 13:18.21 | kagaro | test |
| 13:19.10 | foxlit | Does undercity block mounts on purpose? |
| 13:19.17 | zenzelezz | block mounts? |
| 13:19.21 | Anaral | It's a bug |
| 13:19.33 | foxlit | You can't mount while inside |
| 13:19.34 | Anaral | exit city, mount, then reenter |
| 13:19.39 | foxlit | It doesn't dismount you, however. |
| 13:19.58 | foxlit | Anaral: that defeats the purpose of mounting to save travel time in the first place :) |
| 13:20.11 | Anaral | True |
| 13:20.19 | Anaral | But it's a way around the bug. ;) |
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| 13:24.12 | Xinhuan | my mount isn't blocked ;p |
| 13:24.17 | Xinhuan | usable everywhere! |
| 13:24.24 | Xinhuan | including all cities |
| 13:27.03 | Xinhuan | [Summon Black Qiraji Battle Tank] - it has a bug of its own though, it gives 2 buffs (one with tooltip, one without) so to dismount i have to click it twice |
| 13:28.22 | zenzelezz | show-off ;-p |
| 13:29.02 | Xinhuan | hey now to counter that, last patch, i couldn't even learn it! |
| 13:29.56 | Xinhuan | do death knights start professions from 1/75? |
| 13:30.03 | Xinhuan | or get them accelerated too? |
| 13:30.43 | zenzelezz | I would guess they get them at a higher skill level... "what are all these deathknights doing in Durotar?" |
| 13:30.46 | Rabbitbunny | It would be awesome if they were accelerated. Make mules that much easier. |
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| 13:31.07 | leethal | Everyone Has a DK Bank Mule (TM) |
| 13:31.07 | Xinhuan | i heard bandaging for DKs start at like 250 or something |
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| 13:32.14 | Cairenn | Mikk: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17640 |
| 13:41.18 | Anaral | Heh, The subtype return for Badge of Justice is Money(OBSOLETE) |
| 13:42.30 | Mikk | Cairenn: cheers |
| 13:42.30 | foxlit | yeah, they're going away |
| 13:42.42 | Cairenn | :) |
| 13:45.16 | Anaral | Cairenn: The poster says Feb 2007, but the actual file itself hasn't been updated since Aug 2006. |
| 13:45.41 | kagaro | anyone see the names of the new fishing nodes yet ? |
| 13:45.51 | Anaral | Not yet |
| 13:48.50 | foxlit | meh, mass-crafting totally shuts down with a bit of casting lag :( |
| 13:50.54 | kagaro | nyone in dk starting area atm? |
| 13:51.01 | Anaral | foxlit: I didn't think the BoJ were going away... just thought that they wouldn't be used for anything 71+. |
| 13:51.26 | foxlit | They're moving currency tokens to a more gold-like system |
| 13:51.45 | foxlit | The general idea is that you won't waste inventory space - they'll just be tracked like honor/arena points |
| 13:52.11 | Anaral | Ah |
| 13:52.17 | Anaral | Makes sense |
| 13:52.18 | foxlit | So the actual Badge of Justice items will be going away :) |
| 13:52.26 | durcyn | Malygos dies, you gain +3 Welfare Epic Points |
| 13:52.28 | Anaral | *nods* |
| 13:52.36 | Anaral | lol |
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| 14:04.10 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all \o |
| 14:04.16 | YammYgirlcoding | hey guys |
| 14:05.40 | YammYgirlcoding | I want to move metamap shortcut M to shift-M or something. Can it be done? |
| 14:05.42 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
| 14:06.12 | YammYgirlcoding | ahoy :D |
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| 14:15.41 | sacarasc | Dave2: and here |
| 14:15.55 | Dave2 | I never try in here! |
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| 14:48.17 | hipjipp | Any decent authors awake now? |
| 14:48.28 | haste | never |
| 14:49.52 | hipjipp | hehe.. just wondering since i was trying to write a new addon that outputs active runes i a string |
| 14:50.18 | alestane | I'm leaving pretty soon, are you having a problem? |
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| 14:51.16 | hipjipp | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93444 |
| 14:51.38 | hipjipp | can't get it to work.. just says "incorrect slot" |
| 14:52.13 | hipjipp | pastey contains alot of junk code atm.. i'll clean it up later when it works |
| 14:52.15 | Cide | you do realize |
| 14:52.24 | Cide | you should point out which line errors |
| 14:53.13 | alestane | Yes, it would be useful to know. |
| 14:53.15 | hipjipp | ah, sorry.. line 50 output errors.. commented it out since i got angry.. :P |
| 14:54.44 | alestane | Well, you're going to be feeding it the number of seconds since the last frame. |
| 14:55.04 | alestane | Which is going to be a fraction of a second usually, so that's not a valid rune slot. |
| 14:56.36 | alestane | Because you set runeframe:Update as the OnUpdate script for runeframe. |
| 14:56.56 | alestane | You might do better to comment out line 26. |
| 14:58.43 | alestane | You're also doing a lot of tedious re-initialization in runeframe:Event(). |
| 15:00.29 | hipjipp | yeah.. i know.. but this is just alpha output.. still need to learn and get used to the 3.0 API.. :< |
| 15:01.26 | alestane | There's nothing new in the API as far as what you're doing, other than the rune info calls themselves. |
| 15:06.55 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 15:10.17 | sacarasc | if only Fisker- would die... |
| 15:10.20 | sacarasc | <3 |
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| 15:13.58 | alestane | hipjipp: I tried to clean it up a little and remove some grossly misfunctional things: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93445 |
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| 15:14.19 | AlexanderYoshi | yo |
| 15:14.23 | alestane | Hey Alex. |
| 15:15.01 | g0urra | it's the lost wowwikian |
| 15:17.19 | AlexanderYoshi | I've been wandering the earth in search of better formatting. |
| 15:17.22 | AlexanderYoshi | :-P |
| 15:17.33 | hipjipp | alestane: thanks alot! <3 gonna try it now (sorry for being afk, making food) |
| 15:17.48 | Cide | running a heavy magnet over your harddrive usually works |
| 15:17.57 | AlexanderYoshi | thanks |
| 15:18.11 | AlexanderYoshi | Can someone point me to the Elitist Jerks IRC channel |
| 15:18.37 | alestane | hipjipp: You need to study up on how local variables actually work, there were several things in your update function especially that would have just flat out broken because you weren't using the variable you thought you were using. |
| 15:18.40 | cladhaire | AlexanderYoshi: http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t11785-elitist_jerks_irc_channel/ |
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| 15:19.59 | AlexanderYoshi | thanks |
| 15:20.12 | cladhaire | welcome! |
| 15:32.32 | laeg | foxlit: kk ty |
| 15:33.19 | Tem | I hate the telredor elevator |
| 15:33.43 | Anaral | Heh |
| 15:36.46 | Xinhuan | wtb an achievement for days /played lol |
| 15:36.51 | Xinhuan | in wotlk |
| 15:37.14 | Shirik|zZz | Anaral: ping |
| 15:37.18 | nevcairiel | you already got one for 40 exalted factions or so =P |
| 15:37.33 | Xinhuan | i only have 37 exalted |
| 15:37.37 | nevcairiel | so get to work |
| 15:37.41 | Anaral | Shirik: pong |
| 15:37.42 | Xinhuan | so, 40 is not quite possible yet |
| 15:37.45 | Shirik | wtf did you do |
| 15:37.49 | Xinhuan | i'm trying to steal heavy junkboxes |
| 15:37.57 | Anaral | What you mean? |
| 15:37.58 | nevcairiel | It will be with the new factions from northrend |
| 15:38.04 | Shirik | I see you tried to upload QualityID-WotLK |
| 15:38.08 | Anaral | Aye |
| 15:38.30 | Shirik | It says "File size: b" "File date: 12-31-1969 - 07:00 PM" and when I try to look at what's in it, it says "The file type . is not supported" |
| 15:39.04 | Matrix110 | according to the stats i got 4000 Factions exalted in Northrend |
| 15:39.28 | Shirik | Anaral: I'll just delete it and you can re-upload it? |
| 15:39.33 | Anaral | Thank you |
| 15:39.36 | Anaral | lol |
| 15:40.02 | Anaral | Cairenn can then disregard the pm I sent her. :) |
| 15:40.07 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:40.12 | Shirik | what did you send her? |
| 15:46.35 | Anaral | Just that when I pushed the 'push to commit' button the page told me to contact an admin. |
| 15:48.29 | foxlit | http://drhorrible.com/mushortio.html |
| 15:48.31 | foxlit | is back |
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| 15:51.29 | Anaral | Shirik I get an error; Sorry, a file is already being generated for this SVN. |
| 15:51.39 | Shirik | oh fun |
| 15:51.50 | Shirik | ummm |
| 15:52.00 | Shirik | I don't think I have access to svn admin, but let me find out |
| 15:52.37 | Shirik | bash: ssh: command not found |
| 15:52.40 | Shirik | -_- |
| 15:52.42 | Shirik | wtf |
| 15:53.23 | cladhaire | Anaral: there is an FAQ, you need to unlock |
| 15:53.27 | cladhaire | since you generated a file, and then left that page. |
| 15:53.37 | Shirik | oh cladhaire wins |
| 15:53.47 | cladhaire | go back to the main SVN page, and in the dropdown for that, there should be a new option. |
| 15:55.05 | cladhaire | Specifically, http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=svn#faq_reset_generator |
| 15:55.53 | Shirik | and now I know what that looks like :D |
| 15:56.31 | Anaral | Okay, then I get the first error again: Sorry, for some reason the file didnt copy over. Please contact an admin asap. |
| 15:56.58 | Shirik | what is this for again? |
| 15:57.05 | cladhaire | What are you trying to do? |
| 15:57.07 | cladhaire | Let' |
| 15:57.09 | cladhaire | let's start there. |
| 15:57.53 | Anaral | Upload QualityID to the WotLK catagory. It has more info then the live one and I'll be testing with it. |
| 15:58.04 | cladhaire | and why are you trying to use the SVN to do this? |
| 15:58.10 | cladhaire | did you create a new project? |
| 15:58.13 | Anaral | Because I have tortoise. |
| 15:58.14 | Anaral | Aye |
| 15:58.27 | cladhaire | and now you're trying to create the associated project for the svn project? |
| 15:58.52 | Anaral | Correct. |
| 15:58.57 | Shirik | cladhaire: At all possible that since QualityID already exists, it's having problems? |
| 15:59.31 | cladhaire | its possible, but that shouldn't be the case |
| 15:59.32 | Anaral | Well on the SVN Options page both QualityID and QualityID - WotLK are there. |
| 15:59.47 | cladhaire | okay so walk with me |
| 15:59.56 | cladhaire | you go to QualityID - WotLK |
| 16:00.00 | cladhaire | go to make zip |
| 16:00.01 | Anaral | Aye |
| 16:00.15 | cladhaire | Don't select anything in merge file |
| 16:00.21 | Anaral | Correct |
| 16:00.21 | cladhaire | in New Addon select WoTLK |
| 16:00.28 | cladhaire | put the version/description in |
| 16:00.34 | cladhaire | and click generate zip |
| 16:00.39 | cladhaire | what page does that go to? |
| 16:01.34 | Anaral | Review generated zip |
| 16:01.41 | cladhaire | and what does that page say/look like |
| 16:02.54 | Anaral | Blah. Thanks Clad. I need to learn to read. lol. Apparently it matters that it's in a trunk folder. Which makes sense, but yeah, I didn't pick up on it. |
| 16:03.14 | cladhaire | I don't understand what you mean "it matters that it's in a trunk folder" |
| 16:03.29 | Anaral | svn: 'file:///var/svn/repos/QualityID-WotLK-193/trunk' does not exist in revision '3' |
| 16:03.29 | Anaral | Could not find trunk directory in repository |
| 16:03.36 | cladhaire | uhh |
| 16:03.47 | cladhaire | how did you manage to have a repository without a trunk directory? |
| 16:03.48 | cladhaire | did you delete it? |
| 16:04.00 | Shirik | it doesn't cladhaire |
| 16:04.02 | Shirik | I just checked it out |
| 16:04.09 | Anaral | No, but the files aren't in it. |
| 16:04.12 | cladhaire | Shirik: yes.. but its automatically created, check the svn log |
| 16:04.21 | Shirik | kk |
| 16:04.21 | cladhaire | Anaral: please pastey the log for me |
| 16:04.22 | cladhaire | so I can look at it. |
| 16:04.57 | cladhaire | you deleted trunk |
| 16:04.59 | cladhaire | that was... silly |
| 16:05.38 | Anaral | Yeah, I'm a twit. :/ |
| 16:05.43 | cladhaire | neh |
| 16:06.52 | Shirik | trunk/tags/branches, always!! |
| 16:07.02 | cladhaire | they're there for a reason, lol |
| 16:07.07 | cladhaire | tho that system sucks :P |
| 16:07.12 | Shirik | I like it :( |
| 16:07.19 | cladhaire | git support won't have the same limitation, obviously |
| 16:07.23 | Shirik | This is where cladhaire goes "lol git" |
| 16:07.24 | Shirik | knew it |
| 16:07.31 | cladhaire | Shirik: you've clearly never used anything other than cvs/svn |
| 16:07.34 | cladhaire | its not a "git" thing |
| 16:07.35 | Shirik | yeah :( |
| 16:07.36 | cladhaire | its a not stupid thing :P |
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| 16:08.30 | nevcairiel | even cvs didnt need that shit |
| 16:08.32 | nevcairiel | its a pure svn thing |
| 16:08.40 | nevcairiel | cvs had real branches.. : |
| 16:08.42 | Shirik | I'm actually still trying to figure out how to get fisheye to understand my branch structure |
| 16:08.50 | cladhaire | yeah cvs had real branches |
| 16:09.08 | Shirik | because I have a single trunk/tags/branches, but I have multiple "projects" in the same trunk |
| 16:09.14 | Shirik | and fisheye doesn't like to back out |
| 16:09.17 | Shirik | as far as I can tell |
| 16:09.40 | nevcairiel | multiple projects in one trunk? |
| 16:09.43 | nevcairiel | sounsd like wowace layout :D |
| 16:09.47 | Shirik | well, it's actually one project |
| 16:09.54 | Shirik | but it's a modular project |
| 16:09.58 | Cide | sure it is. try to cover up your idiocy now. |
| 16:09.58 | Shirik | so I told fisheye of each module |
| 16:10.35 | Shirik | that way when we see the changelog, we see the changelog for the module instead of the whole project and have to interleave through things |
| 16:10.58 | Shirik | but it needs to be all together so it can build relatively easily (I don't want to have to add fifty million things to get separate repos to work together) |
| 16:11.18 | Anaral | Okay I'm still getting the same error: Sorry, for some reason the file didnt copy over. Please contact an admin asap. |
| 16:12.01 | Shirik | ok well at least you have the right directory structure now :D |
| 16:12.04 | Fisker- | if anyone asks it was actually nevcairiel |
| 16:12.18 | nevcairiel | I didnt to nothing! |
| 16:12.21 | nevcairiel | *do |
| 16:13.07 | foxlit | So you admit to having done something? |
| 16:14.12 | Shirik | AHAHA ScytheBlade1, remember that email I sent off to gentoo about Lua |
| 16:14.15 | Shirik | I just got a response today |
| 16:14.39 | cladhaire | Anaral: you haven't told us WHERE you are getting the message |
| 16:14.42 | cladhaire | go back to step 1 |
| 16:14.50 | cladhaire | and tell me whats going on, I'm likely the one who can fix it for you. |
| 16:15.11 | Anaral | After I push the button, push to commit |
| 16:15.11 | cladhaire | we can take it to PMs so we're not spamming anyone here |
| 16:15.19 | cladhaire | to commit? |
| 16:15.26 | cladhaire | what button are you talking about? |
| 16:15.39 | Anaral | push zip live, sorry |
| 16:15.48 | cladhaire | what are the results of the zip script saying |
| 16:15.52 | cladhaire | can you pastey them for me. |
| 16:16.28 | Anaral | http://www.pastey.net/93448 |
| 16:16.50 | cladhaire | well first your zip isn't correct |
| 16:16.54 | cladhaire | so you shouldn't be pushing the zip live |
| 16:17.02 | cladhaire | you should be downloading it and checking to make sure its correct. |
| 16:17.56 | Anaral | Well I did and it was |
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| 16:18.11 | cladhaire | except it doesn't have the QualityID directory like it should |
| 16:18.33 | cladhaire | it just unzips the files wherever you unzip it. |
| 16:18.39 | Sixen | Hai everyone. |
| 16:20.41 | Fisker- | Sixen my friend |
| 16:21.13 | Anaral | http://www.pastey.net/93450 |
| 16:21.27 | Anaral | But the zip is still incorrect |
| 16:21.28 | Sixen | =). *waves* |
| 16:21.39 | cladhaire | Anaral: what do you mean "the zip is still incorrect?" |
| 16:21.45 | cladhaire | I didn't realize we had an incorrect zip issue.. |
| 16:22.01 | Anaral | sorry have to type between baby trying to get at keyboard |
| 16:22.12 | cladhaire | understood :P |
| 16:22.40 | Anaral | no it's still not in it's folder. Even though revision six has QID files in its own folder. |
| 16:23.26 | cladhaire | I am ridiculously confused right now, about a lot of things |
| 16:23.31 | Anaral | Its still downloading rev 4 |
| 16:24.09 | cladhaire | you're going to have to hold off until Dolby is able to take a look at it |
| 16:24.17 | cladhaire | I suggest you reset the zip, and wait for him to respond |
| 16:24.29 | Anaral | okay |
| 16:24.29 | cladhaire | but in the zip log you just posted, you have two sets of .lua/.toc files |
| 16:24.36 | cladhaire | one under a QualityID directory.. and then in the root directory as well |
| 16:24.51 | cladhaire | that's confusing =/ |
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| 16:25.57 | Shirik | omg |
| 16:25.58 | Shirik | scared me cladhaire |
| 16:26.04 | cladhaire | haha |
| 16:26.28 | Shirik | I didn't realize I was still connected, and this pops up in the middle of the screen >< |
| 16:26.39 | cladhaire | should have said "pwnt" |
| 16:26.41 | cladhaire | or "rooted" |
| 16:26.44 | cladhaire | that would have been funnier :P |
| 16:30.24 | Fisker- | i still has sex leg Shirik |
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| 16:40.20 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm, How long do file moderators at wowinterface normally take? |
| 16:41.34 | cladhaire | normally, very short |
| 16:41.54 | Rabbitbunny | Cool. |
| 16:42.00 | cladhaire | however when people are trying to submit copied and stolen versions of addons to get their "zomg" beta key, its taking a bit longer than normal, and Shirik and I are the only two awake right now |
| 16:42.03 | cladhaire | updates to files are quick |
| 16:42.07 | cladhaire | new files take a bit longer |
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| 16:43.08 | Rabbitbunny | I've run over every state the data could be in a bajillion times, I had to have forgotten something, and hopefully I'll find someone that know how to do UIs... |
| 16:43.41 | Rabbitbunny | ...you? |
| 16:44.27 | cladhaire | I want to stab people in the face when they upload .rar files |
| 16:44.41 | Rabbitbunny | 0_0 |
| 16:44.43 | foxlit | Meh |
| 16:44.52 | foxlit | WoWI could so convert those to zip on upload |
| 16:46.26 | Rabbitbunny | cladhaire: Oh. you're from there... Hi n stuff. |
| 16:46.26 | cladhaire | ? |
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| 16:46.50 | Rabbitbunny | asin... you go there? |
| 16:47.09 | cladhaire | i dont know what you're talking abhout =' |
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| 16:47.33 | Rabbitbunny | Yeah, i'm not too good with english anymore. |
| 16:48.32 | Gnarfoz | you could try actually saying what you are talking about instead of being vague :P |
| 16:48.44 | Ackis | I even got what he was saying |
| 16:48.49 | Ackis | from there = WoWI |
| 16:49.05 | Ackis | afk to build a shed... in my living room hahahahahahha |
| 16:49.12 | Ackis | (with no pants on) |
| 16:49.28 | Gnarfoz | no pants = win |
| 16:49.52 | zenzelezz | I only raid without pants |
| 16:53.06 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 16:53.17 | cladhaire | getting an connection refused when I try to ping cia |
| 16:53.19 | cladhaire | how obnoxious =/ |
| 16:53.42 | zenzelezz | they're onto you |
| 16:58.45 | Shirik | Rabbitbunny: ping |
| 17:00.19 | Rabbitbunny | Shirik: pong |
| 17:01.15 | Shirik | Just a random comment: local midpoint, seen, itemTotals = AucAdvanced.API.GetMarketValue(link, AucAdvanced.GetFaction()) |
| 17:01.34 | Shirik | "itemTotals" is not really what that third return is |
| 17:02.02 | kd3 | ah... I figured someone had to have a screencap of the AFP's goof... http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2341/2748612850_1d40f3352d.jpg?v=0 |
| 17:02.06 | Shirik | also you don't have to call AucAdvanced.GetFaction(), it should be done automatically if you don't supply the second parameter |
| 17:02.09 | Matrix110 | giev font addon for wotlk! |
| 17:02.11 | Shirik | just random suggestions is all :) |
| 17:02.25 | Rabbitbunny | Yeah, it's #pdfList, I never bothered to change it as I don't use it. Could replace with _ |
| 17:02.36 | Shirik | oh I didn't bother to see if you were using it |
| 17:02.45 | Shirik | just wanted to make sure you realized you're not actually getting what you think you are :P |
| 17:02.54 | Rabbitbunny | Well, thanks :) |
| 17:03.14 | Rabbitbunny | And... I hope it's not coming up with a faction if I don't tell it one.. |
| 17:03.23 | Shirik | it does |
| 17:03.34 | Shirik | I wrote that function, I would know :) |
| 17:03.43 | Shirik | Why is that bad? |
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| 17:03.58 | Rabbitbunny | I've written an Abitrage searcher, it acts like a resale searcher because it always return home faction data |
| 17:04.10 | Rabbitbunny | you wrote GetMarketPrice? |
| 17:04.13 | Shirik | yup |
| 17:04.20 | Shirik | GetMarketValue() |
| 17:04.22 | Shirik | but yes |
| 17:05.13 | Shirik | If you aren't passing the second parameter, you need to be absolutely sure you want the current "local" key. That means Server-Neutral when in BB/Everlook/Gadgetzan or Server-Faction elsewhere |
| 17:06.10 | Rabbitbunny | Oh, it's using Appraiser.GetPrice(), whew. I almost tagged you as the source of my headache... |
| 17:06.10 | Shirik | It should be pointed out that using AucAdvanced.GetFaction() is identical to leaving out the second parameter |
| 17:06.42 | Shirik | Appraiser.GetPrice()? Isn't that deprecated? |
| 17:07.05 | Rabbitbunny | I hope not, most of SearchUI searchers are using it. |
| 17:07.15 | Shirik | oh no wait |
| 17:07.20 | Shirik | I'm thinking of something else :) |
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| 17:07.46 | Shirik | yeah, and you'll see that Appraiser.GetPrice() returns "newBuy, seen = AucAdvanced.API.GetMarketValue(link)" when using market calculations :) |
| 17:08.07 | Shirik | which means that it's the current local server key |
| 17:08.46 | Rabbitbunny | Right, But I'm hand building it server keys, and it's returning asif I'm ont. |
| 17:08.50 | Rabbitbunny | *not |
| 17:08.54 | Shirik | right |
| 17:09.01 | Shirik | what's the call you are making, exactly? |
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| 17:09.26 | Shirik | Appraiser.GetPrice() does not take a "server key" parameter |
| 17:09.35 | Shirik | at least not what I'm looking at |
| 17:10.00 | Shirik | (Though as a side note, it is questionable why it doesn't) |
| 17:10.15 | Rabbitbunny | market, _, _, seen, curModel = AucAdvanced.Modules.Util.Appraiser.GetPrice(link, keyImade) |
| 17:10.37 | Shirik | yeah, the signature for GetPrice() is currently: function lib.GetPrice(link, _, match) |
| 17:10.49 | Shirik | which means it appears that the server key was taken out |
| 17:10.51 | Shirik | time for svn blame! |
| 17:11.03 | Rabbitbunny | Um... i need that server key, bed. |
| 17:11.08 | Rabbitbunny | s/e/a/ |
| 17:11.14 | Rabbitbunny | bah. |
| 17:11.22 | Shirik | hehe |
| 17:12.10 | Rabbitbunny | Once the GetPrice thing is fixed, a little UI shannanagins, Bam SearcherArbitrage ready to go. cross-faction and nuetral supported. |
| 17:12.29 | Shirik | Appraiser.GetPrice's signature was las changed in r2934 |
| 17:12.59 | Rabbitbunny | aren't we on 3300+? |
| 17:13.04 | Shirik | "Usage: GetPrice(link, serverkey, usematching) Note that serverkey isn't functional, but is there to fit into convention" |
| 17:13.08 | Shirik | From the SVN log |
| 17:13.19 | Rabbitbunny | uhm.. that's not cool. |
| 17:13.24 | Shirik | heh |
| 17:13.36 | Shirik | I would agree with you 100% if you want to propose a change to adjust that |
| 17:13.49 | Shirik | Open a JIRA ticket as an improvement and give me the key for it |
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| 17:13.53 | Rabbitbunny | It's in JIRA |
| 17:13.56 | Shirik | oh is it |
| 17:14.01 | Shirik | know the key off hand? |
| 17:14.15 | Rabbitbunny | this morning, when I figured out that was the source of my problems |
| 17:14.27 | Rabbitbunny | APPR-174 |
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| 17:24.18 | Shirik | Rabbitbunny: Try r3332 |
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| 17:45.29 | Rabbitbunny | Shirik: You had me going for a loop there for a second... auc-advanced is not on 3332. Loading it now |
| 17:46.48 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 17:47.13 | Shirik|Ecole | Sure it is: http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-174?page=com.atlassian.jira.ext.fisheye:fisheye-issuepanel |
| 17:47.42 | Rabbitbunny | okay, I have never been in that section before.. |
| 17:48.03 | Shirik|Ecole | 3332 isn't "released" no, you'd have to pull from the SVN |
| 17:48.09 | Shirik|Ecole | or a dev release |
| 17:48.26 | Rabbitbunny | yeah, normally I go to /dl, then just grab the -latest |
| 17:49.46 | Shirik|Ecole | there's only one file changed so you could just replace that one file |
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| 17:50.14 | Rabbitbunny | Hey, no errors! and there's only two returns, much better than the ones I was getting before. |
| 17:50.46 | Rabbitbunny | Sweet, little UI fixing and that's done. |
| 17:51.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I do like CIA's report for that bugfix though |
| 17:51.36 | Rabbitbunny | Shirik: thank you for fixing the functions so I don't have to create little functions to make yours work... |
| 17:51.41 | Shirik|Ecole | (13:33:14) (^nbot) New Feature APPR-174 Shirik: GetPrice returns data that shouldn't exist (Resolved/Fixed) http://jira.norganna.org/browse/APPR-174 |
| 17:51.50 | Shirik|Ecole | New feature: GetPrice returns data that shouldn't exist |
| 17:51.52 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 17:52.12 | Shirik|Ecole | that's what I get for converting a bug to a new feature :/ |
| 17:52.26 | Shirik|Ecole | But yeah, for the record, I didn't write Appraiser's GetPrice()! |
| 17:52.30 | Shirik|Ecole | totally not my fault :D |
| 17:53.02 | Thunder_Child | LIES Shirik|Ecole |
| 17:53.14 | Rabbitbunny | Ya know, I think i may have been talking about one, and meaning the other... I'll have to read this log later. |
| 17:53.46 | Thunder_Child | our orginization has it's eye on you Shirik|Ecole, dont screw up |
| 17:53.52 | Rabbitbunny | thankfully, the right one got fixed. |
| 17:53.56 | Shirik|Ecole | but yeah hope that works better now :) |
| 17:54.06 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not sure why that wasn't implemented in the first place |
| 17:54.45 | Rabbitbunny | Now I just have to figure out how that UI works, line the little word up with the little slider and figure out who I can con into uploading it for me. |
| 17:58.27 | Ackis | shed is built! |
| 17:58.38 | Ackis | (but I had to put pants on to take it outside :( ) |
| 17:59.09 | Thunder_Child | "As a loyal Dell customer" i am ammused (sp?) since i have never purchased something from them |
| 17:59.09 | batbot | Thunder_Child, amused, am mused, am-mused. |
| 17:59.21 | cladhaire | Thunder_Child: what did they send you? |
| 17:59.27 | cladhaire | i'm looking for info on their E-series |
| 17:59.29 | cladhaire | if you got any :P |
| 17:59.48 | Thunder_Child | As a loyal Dell customer, you've been granted access to Dell's new personalized shopping program: Dell Perks. This free, members-only program was created to help save you time and money by delivering highly relevant offers based on your pre-selected interest levels in various categories and/or for specific merchants. With over 500 merchant partners in Apparel, Entertainment, Travel, and more saving has never been easier. |
| 18:00.06 | cladhaire | oh boo |
| 18:01.24 | Thunder_Child | what e series? |
| 18:01.30 | Thunder_Child | i dont see anything about that |
| 18:02.00 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 18:02.04 | Thunder_Child | latitude |
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| 18:03.55 | cladhaire | its their new subnotebook that's coming out. |
| 18:03.58 | cladhaire | in August. |
| 18:04.00 | Thunder_Child | http://www.mobilewhack.com/dell-e-series-is-in-the-house/ |
| 18:04.09 | Thunder_Child | the 9" screen ones? |
| 18:04.29 | cladhaire | well there's the E classic and the E slim |
| 18:04.32 | cladhaire | both of them interest me |
| 18:05.12 | Rabbitbunny | Shirik: heh, you were right on both counts, saved me a function call on GetMarketValue() |
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| 18:15.25 | kd3 | ok, random |
| 18:15.32 | kd3 | wow hardcrashed without popping an error |
| 18:16.15 | Fisker- | keylogger |
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| 18:26.32 | Tekkub | kd3, on a reloadui? you playing with textures? |
| 18:26.50 | kd3 | nope. just running around teldrassil |
| 18:26.57 | Tekkub | ah dunno then |
| 18:27.41 | Thunder_Child | i have had that before, i always assumed it was a system error instead of a wow error |
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| 18:46.21 | cladhaire | :P |
| 18:49.37 | Fisker- | new avalon? |
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| 18:51.12 | TeeJayEm | where should i go to learn how to develop a plug for WoW for mac os x |
| 18:51.20 | Tekkub | I er, uh, have to comment every time I kill him |
| 18:52.58 | cladhaire | TeeJayEm: there's no difference whether or not you write addons on a mac or a pc |
| 18:53.03 | cladhaire | ~wowprogramming |
| 18:53.04 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 18:53.12 | cladhaire | TeeJayEm: I would suggest reading the link that purl just posted, its a book about writing addons |
| 18:54.45 | TeeJayEm | thanks alot |
| 18:54.50 | Tekkub | of courser YOU would suggest that |
| 18:54.51 | TeeJayEm | i'll check it out |
| 18:55.01 | Tekkub | granted so would everyone else |
| 18:57.36 | |pez| | Oh, that's neat. I can make players that work with youtube vids. .P |
| 18:57.37 | |pez| | :P |
| 18:58.33 | Thunder_Child | yes Tekkub, cladhaire is a shameless promoter |
| 18:58.49 | cladhaire | meh |
| 18:58.52 | cladhaire | i hardly make money off it |
| 18:59.01 | cladhaire | as long as people use it that's cool :P |
| 18:59.03 | Thunder_Child | who said anything about money? |
| 18:59.21 | Thunder_Child | at this point getting your name out is the big thing, the money shall roll in later |
| 18:59.26 | Tekkub | screw the money, but your ego, WOW! SO BIG! |
| 18:59.30 | Thunder_Child | *if it is all done correctly) |
| 18:59.38 | Tekkub | wait wrong person |
| 18:59.38 | Thunder_Child | s/*/(/ |
| 19:00.45 | Fisker- | aggroing illidan should aggro all ilidan |
| 19:00.58 | Fisker- | i mean every illidan |
| 19:01.00 | Tekkub | illibeans! |
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| 19:01.27 | Fisker- | it makes sense because you're aggroing their friend |
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| 19:07.17 | Fisker- | i expected more from: "we just managed to take supremus, good thing you have 6 rogues with glaives to dodge tank him after enrage" |
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| 19:08.33 | laeg | i hate boosting |
| 19:09.12 | foxlit | i hate everything |
| 19:09.19 | foxlit | It's tough being me :( |
| 19:09.23 | laeg | lol |
| 19:09.52 | laeg | i hate twink rogues who think they're pro |
| 19:10.10 | laeg | (also i hate twinks as well) |
| 19:10.25 | laeg | 10-19 sux. |
| 19:15.20 | Rabbitbunny | 10 downloads an no comments... must not be breaking. |
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| 19:17.23 | Thunder_Child | yet |
| 19:18.00 | Charinna | hi folks |
| 19:18.12 | Thunder_Child | hello Charinna |
| 19:18.18 | Charinna | thought I'd idle for a bit before asking a question :) |
| 19:18.27 | Charinna | (seems the right thing to do when joining a channel for the first time) |
| 19:18.36 | Charinna | (hey tc) |
| 19:18.57 | durcyn | (whyarewetalkinginparenthesesiwonder) |
| 19:19.02 | Charinna | I'm sure this has been asked before -- and I think I already know the answer, but here it goes. |
| 19:19.08 | Thunder_Child | that would be rare, around here it is often join/insta ask/leave |
| 19:19.18 | Charinna | (parenthetical stuff is a side-comment, even in irc) |
| 19:19.23 | Charinna | (just like this one) |
| 19:19.36 | Charinna | (a comment that has nothing to do with my non-insta-asked-question) |
| 19:19.42 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 19:19.52 | Charinna | Anyway :) |
| 19:19.55 | Charinna | so... |
| 19:19.58 | Charinna | I have gera. |
| 19:19.59 | Thunder_Child | well the topic around here is as solid as steam so it's not really an issue |
| 19:20.00 | Charinna | err gear |
| 19:20.00 | durcyn | nah. this channel's never on-topic to start with =P |
| 19:20.09 | Charinna | I pop a gem into it. |
| 19:20.13 | Charinna | gem has id |
| 19:20.26 | Charinna | but the gear is now enchanted with some random number that's not the gem's id |
| 19:20.38 | Charinna | e.g. delicate crimson spinel I think yields an enchant of 3118 |
| 19:20.46 | Charinna | even though that's got nothing to do with the gem's item id. |
| 19:20.55 | Charinna | So the question is: How do you link the two together? |
| 19:20.59 | Thunder_Child | it's prolly the ID of the item with that enchant |
| 19:21.16 | durcyn | it should actually be the spell id of the hidden enchant aura |
| 19:21.28 | Charinna | Yes, that's what I've come up with (that it's a spell ID) |
| 19:21.36 | Charinna | so I'm trying to link the spell id to the gem that caused it |
| 19:21.40 | Charinna | how do I do that? |
| 19:21.51 | Charinna | (I haven't found a list of gem spellids anywhere) |
| 19:22.19 | durcyn | er, i don't believe there's a way to correlate the two without compling such list |
| 19:22.35 | durcyn | compiling rather, though i'm sure someone will pipe up soon and prove me wrong |
| 19:22.36 | Charinna | Yeah, I figured as much. |
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| 19:22.43 | Charinna | I think I saw a compilation in a plugin. |
| 19:23.19 | Charinna | I was wondering if there was a better way, that's why I figured I'd come here and ask. |
| 19:23.24 | durcyn | thing is, those hidden enchant spell IDs don't show up in the spelldata dbcs either afaik |
| 19:23.49 | Thunder_Child | like http://www.wowwiki.com/EnchantId ? |
| 19:24.01 | Charinna | I think enchant != spell |
| 19:24.09 | Thunder_Child | or http://www.wowwiki.com/SuffixId |
| 19:24.18 | Charinna | No, unfortunately neither |
| 19:24.30 | Charinna | I think it's closer to the enchantid, but the ones caused by gems aren't listed. |
| 19:24.49 | durcyn | those enchantids should be what appears in the itemlink, then. |
| 19:25.28 | Charinna | Item link? |
| 19:25.28 | Charinna | 34906:2661:3116:0:0:0:0:0 |
| 19:25.29 | Charinna | for example? |
| 19:25.41 | Charinna | 34906 = chest piece |
| 19:25.45 | Charinna | 2661 = enchant |
| 19:25.56 | Charinna | 3116 = the hidden number that correlates to my gem |
| 19:26.08 | Charinna | (actual item of the gem is 32194) |
| 19:26.32 | Charinna | See, the thing about enchants is that if you look up the spell in wowhead, it shows you what enchantid it applies to the object. |
| 19:26.38 | Charinna | But I didn't find that for gems. |
| 19:26.56 | Charinna | But anyway, durcyn seems to agree with what my conclusions were too. |
| 19:29.43 | durcyn | yeah, so, refer to www.wowwiki.com/ItemString if you want to know how that bit actually works |
| 19:30.04 | Thunder_Child | so no one has the new numbers listed, thats all |
| 19:30.06 | Charinna | I thought I already did |
| 19:30.13 | durcyn | i.e. there is no way to discover gems from itemlinks without your own lookup table |
| 19:30.17 | Charinna | (check wowwiki), just that there was no list of the gems |
| 19:32.18 | Charinna | I think outfitter had a list of them at some point & called them "Jewelcode" or something like that. |
| 19:33.46 | Charinna | wowace: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ItemValue/Data_Jewels.lua |
| 19:33.53 | Charinna | So that's the best way I guess. |
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| 19:34.47 | Tuller | so things I need to figure out: what to do about bagnon/combuctor |
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| 19:35.27 | Tuller | but eyes tired, so yes :P |
| 19:36.22 | nevcairiel | screw bagnon |
| 19:36.25 | nevcairiel | continue combuctor |
| 19:36.41 | Tuller | well, I want a bagnon with the key/ammo filtering done automatically |
| 19:36.48 | Tuller | and a blizzard look |
| 19:37.06 | nevcairiel | Isnt that combuctor, technically? |
| 19:37.07 | Anaral | Tuller: Agreed. Please. |
| 19:37.29 | Tuller | nevcairiel: negative |
| 19:37.47 | Tuller | but sortof |
| 19:37.59 | nevcairiel | IMHO you can scrap the categories from combuctor |
| 19:38.00 | Tuller | the big issue to figure out as far as that goes is how to size the frame properly |
| 19:38.03 | nevcairiel | only bag-type filtering |
| 19:38.04 | nevcairiel | searching |
| 19:38.07 | nevcairiel | quality filtering |
| 19:38.09 | nevcairiel | and i'm happy |
| 19:38.16 | foxlit | in combat |
| 19:38.19 | Anaral | 100% |
| 19:38.20 | foxlit | _then_ I'm happy :) |
| 19:38.40 | Anaral | That's the only reason I don't use combuctor right now, the frame is too small. |
| 19:39.03 | Tuller | it needs to be a static size, no matter what you have in it |
| 19:39.11 | Tuller | or else if you switch tabs, things will go wacky |
| 19:39.45 | kd3 | how the hell does a level 4 mob resist a level 70 spell? sigh |
| 19:39.46 | nevcairiel | you could allow scaling |
| 19:39.51 | nevcairiel | for people that complain |
| 19:40.00 | Tuller | scaling doesn't fix my issue :P |
| 19:40.10 | nevcairiel | but Anaral's :) |
| 19:40.10 | Tuller | the items in tuller's main bag are too small |
| 19:40.24 | Tuller | due to me finally upgrading one of his bags |
| 19:40.53 | Stanzilla | lines per row setting? |
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| 19:41.07 | Tuller | won't help, really |
| 19:41.13 | Tuller | the algorithm will maximize size |
| 19:41.32 | Tuller | the main way to fix it is to adjust the size on my end |
| 19:41.38 | Tuller | of the frame itself |
| 19:42.04 | Tuller | which I'm not too certain how to do other than it involving some nasty texture stretching |
| 19:42.10 | |pez| | Ah, I'm glad I prepared for this months' hell week. |
| 19:44.01 | Neo|Home | well spell aura refresh combat log event definitely work |
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| 19:45.22 | Tuller | hrm, I think I have a semi idea how to do it |
| 19:45.34 | Tuller | an elastotexture for each connecting point |
| 19:46.48 | Tuller | also if someone wants to invite tuller to secure templars, I'd appreciate it |
| 20:00.10 | Neo|Home | is there something weird with LoD stuff in WotLK? |
| 20:00.25 | Neo|Home | MagicTargets depends (OptDept) on LibBars-1.0 but LibBars-1.0 didn't load |
| 20:00.26 | Thunder_Child | i think someone mentioned something to that effect |
| 20:00.39 | End | yeah |
| 20:00.55 | End | ckknight said he was having to use LoadAddOn() to load them |
| 20:01.03 | Neo|Home | hrm |
| 20:01.10 | End | he seemed to think he might have been going crazy though :P |
| 20:01.15 | ckknight | yes, OptionalDeps are currently in the state of being "fucked" |
| 20:01.25 | End | oh, hi ckknight! :P |
| 20:01.49 | End | Do OptionalDeps still load non-LoD as normal? |
| 20:01.52 | End | or is that fucked too? |
| 20:01.57 | ckknight | no, that is what's fucked |
| 20:02.03 | ckknight | wait |
| 20:02.04 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 20:02.13 | ckknight | not sure about the non-LoD ones |
| 20:02.21 | End | Granted, in that case it would only reorder the load order |
| 20:02.38 | End | instead of loading something that wouldn't normally load as is the case with LoD |
| 20:07.15 | Duman | hmm, what does UnitClass return for DKs? DEATHKNIGHT or DEATH_KNIGHT? |
| 20:07.21 | Duman | or "DEATH KNIGHT"? |
| 20:07.29 | Duman | yes, i could test, but I'm not in-game right now :) |
| 20:07.30 | cladhaire | so |
| 20:07.31 | cladhaire | <tr><th align="right" id="iconlist-icon1"></th><td>Item #35853 (8)</td></tr> |
| 20:07.40 | cladhaire | being match with "<tr><th align=\"right\" id=\"[^\"]+\"></th><td>Item #(%d+)%&?n?b?s?p?%;?%s*%(?(%d*)%)?(%(?P?r?o?v?i?d?e?d%)?)</td></tr>") |
| 20:07.45 | cladhaire | whats failing =/ |
| 20:08.04 | Duman | why are you making the regex so strict |
| 20:08.06 | Thunder_Child | my eyes while trying to read that |
| 20:08.13 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:08.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Duman: "Death Knight", "DEATHKNIGHT" |
| 20:08.51 | Duman | night: thanks |
| 20:09.03 | cladhaire | everything after the (%d+) after Item # should be optional, I had thought =/ |
| 20:09.57 | Duman | clad: what else is on the page? I mean, why not just look for /Item #(\d+)/ ? |
| 20:09.57 | NightHawkTheSane | woo, larval acid! :p |
| 20:10.30 | Duman | err, whatever lua uses for regex key letters, I guess it's % ? |
| 20:10.35 | Duman | <- more a perl person ;) |
| 20:10.43 | cladhaire | Duman: there is a lot on the page |
| 20:10.48 | cladhaire | I need this match |
| 20:10.53 | cladhaire | and it should work with the single pattern |
| 20:10.57 | cladhaire | but its not, since the format changed |
| 20:11.00 | cladhaire | and now its inconsistent. |
| 20:11.06 | Duman | *nod* |
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| 20:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | NWN question... Minsk and Boo? Or how do I spell the putative humanoid's name? |
| 20:12.01 | Duman | clad: are you certain it's always 1 whitespace after 'Item' and before the # ? |
| 20:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsc |
| 20:12.47 | cladhaire | Duman: 100% positive :P |
| 20:13.16 | cladhaire | i think i'm going to split it into two |
| 20:13.19 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, best way is to play the game, that way you get the spelling *and* the fun |
| 20:13.22 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, NightHawkTheSane. I was sure I was spelling him incorrectly. I really need to re-acquire those games! |
| 20:13.22 | Duman | well, in perl, you can group the ' ' into () and append the ? |
| 20:13.24 | cladhaire | unknown items with quantities, and unknown items withotu quantities. |
| 20:13.25 | Duman | not sure about lua |
| 20:13.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: hehe, to be sure, a 30s google search got that. ;) |
| 20:13.49 | Duman | I only have perl regex fu, really :) |
| 20:14.49 | Lopeppeppy | I was spelling him incorrectly a lot of fun ways, NightHawkTheSane. I knew I wanted Boo, but couldn't remember his human! |
| 20:15.11 | Duman | your other option... |
| 20:15.57 | Duman | s/ / /g on the whole thign before hand |
| 20:16.05 | Duman | so you don't make your match look so gnarly |
| 20:16.15 | cladhaire | yeah but it seems that that's not even the issue |
| 20:16.19 | cladhaire | trying to work it out |
| 20:16.20 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 20:16.21 | Duman | ahh |
| 20:17.03 | Duman | (%d*) inside the () |
| 20:17.07 | Duman | you need a ? after it |
| 20:17.13 | Duman | assuming that (8) is "optional" |
| 20:17.14 | cladhaire | no |
| 20:17.15 | cladhaire | not in lua |
| 20:17.20 | Duman | oh it's * |
| 20:17.25 | Duman | not + |
| 20:17.26 | Duman | nm |
| 20:17.27 | cladhaire | yep |
| 20:17.37 | Duman | sorry, still parsing it :) |
| 20:18.01 | Duman | wait |
| 20:18.06 | Duman | the last 'd' in provided |
| 20:18.08 | Duman | needs a ? |
| 20:18.18 | cladhaire | damn |
| 20:18.19 | cladhaire | that's probably it |
| 20:18.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 20:18.33 | Duman | 2nd set of eyes helps :) |
| 20:18.47 | cladhaire | if what i'm trying now fails, i'll go back to that method |
| 20:18.50 | cladhaire | but *fingers crossed* |
| 20:18.53 | Duman | haha ok |
| 20:19.54 | cladhaire | huzzah |
| 20:19.58 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.58 | cladhaire | Dumped 7408 quests. |
| 20:20.05 | Duman | woot |
| 20:20.05 | cladhaire | i"m shocked, to be completely honest :P |
| 20:20.10 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 20:20.46 | cladhaire | now the NPC pages |
| 20:20.47 | cladhaire | *cry* |
| 20:20.53 | cladhaire | only 2313 pages to scan |
| 20:22.16 | cladhaire | looks like wowhead isn't pulling NPC information for wrath |
| 20:22.24 | cladhaire | at least questgiver/end |
| 20:22.29 | kd3 | they just fixed the looter |
| 20:22.39 | cladhaire | ah cool! |
| 20:23.49 | Duman | really? nice |
| 20:24.14 | Duman | hmm, did they chage GetSpellBonusHealing(), or just add a GetSpellPower() or soemthing? |
| 20:25.11 | ScytheBlade1 | GetSpellBonusHealing() still works |
| 20:25.39 | Duman | is there a new call to just get "spell power", or are they still segregated into BonusHealing and BonusDamage(school) ? |
| 20:26.03 | ScytheBlade1 | BonusDamage() is nil now |
| 20:26.12 | Duman | o.O |
| 20:26.21 | Duman | it needs a parameter |
| 20:26.34 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.36 | Duman | 2-7 |
| 20:26.42 | Duman | hmm |
| 20:26.46 | ScytheBlade1 | "(a nil value)" |
| 20:26.49 | Duman | sorry, GetSpellBonusDamage |
| 20:27.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That worked |
| 20:27.06 | Duman | aite |
| 20:30.08 | Neo|Home | a bit annoying to raid :P |
| 20:30.10 | Neo|Home | wait |
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| 20:37.32 | Garoun|Loupana | if anyone is online on Secure Templars / Northrend can you please toss my druid Loupana an invite :) |
| 20:37.34 | Anaral | Ackis Frostweave Bandage (45545) isn't in the database... I updated ARL around 9am est. |
| 20:38.04 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1 will be happy to do it Garoun|Loupana, or Esamynn, or |
| 20:38.09 | Thunder_Child | meh, my brain died |
| 20:38.40 | Esamynn | I don't do invites, it's below the station of an Evil Overlord |
| 20:38.45 | Anaral | Could Namra, my mage, please have a ginvite too? |
| 20:38.50 | Garoun|Loupana | :P I had sent a tell to Tuller but he didn't reply :) |
| 20:39.11 | Tuller | to be fair, I disconnected myself |
| 20:39.11 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn, your correct, however you are not an evil overlord |
| 20:39.23 | Esamynn | yes I am |
| 20:39.31 | Thunder_Child | prove it |
| 20:39.43 | Garoun|Loupana | hehe Tuller |
| 20:40.00 | Garoun|Loupana | Well I'm also a moonkin, so that maeks anyone thing twice about inviting :P |
| 20:40.15 | Thunder_Child | i have a holy DPS, i win |
| 20:40.31 | Thunder_Child | s/DPS/DPS Priest/ |
| 20:40.59 | Esamynn | Garoun|Loupana: oh well... |
| 20:41.17 | Duman | yo tuller |
| 20:41.35 | Garoun|Loupana | lol esa |
| 20:41.39 | Tuller | yes? |
| 20:41.54 | Esamynn | Garoun|Loupana: no low self esteem allowed :P |
| 20:42.33 | Garoun|Loupana | Oh, I have starfall :P I could care less what people want to say about moonkins :P |
| 20:42.39 | Esamynn | now, leave me a long and let me work! :P |
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| 20:51.02 | p3lim | Beta EU Login servers more or less dead? |
| 20:51.24 | Lonny` | p3lim: It seems so. |
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| 21:02.52 | Kandoko | Thank you for the invite O great overlord, Had I but known of your Eminence before I would have groveled in your presence more... << Esamynn|Busy |
| 21:03.10 | Esamynn|Busy | ~poke kandoko |
| 21:03.11 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind kandoko, pokes kandoko repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 21:03.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oh gods, Kandoko, don't inflate his ego, I just spent an hour adjusting the tire pressure on that monster! |
| 21:03.32 | Cairenn | hahaha |
| 21:03.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, hi Cairenn! I missed you!! |
| 21:03.55 | Cairenn | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 21:05.04 | Kandoko | ok, I can now state they did a nice job on the ocean floor around riplash. Just had to pull the hook out and explore |
| 21:05.25 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 21:06.15 | Kaso | Can you get pci game port cards? |
| 21:06.30 | Cairenn | hey guys, couple questions for you |
| 21:06.52 | ScytheBlade1 | uh-oh |
| 21:06.52 | cladhaire | yes, it really is that big |
| 21:06.53 | haste | *hides* |
| 21:07.00 | cladhaire | I can send you pics |
| 21:07.03 | Cairenn | a) did I hear mention of people setting up PvP author guilds? if so, which side, what server, name of guild, US or EU? |
| 21:07.03 | Esamynn|Busy | Cairenn: didn't we tell you, we've all voted to outlaw questions |
| 21:07.39 | ckknight | every time I try to log in on WotLK, I crash :-( |
| 21:07.42 | ckknight | quite annoying |
| 21:07.42 | g0urra | Cairenn: EU Horde guild is Restricted Crusade, Alliance is Tainted and Secure |
| 21:07.46 | g0urra | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:BETA |
| 21:07.56 | cladhaire | ckknight: are you using the dev seed of leopard? |
| 21:07.58 | Esamynn|Busy | cladhaire: I don't even know how to respond to that one :P |
| 21:07.59 | Drayeah | Kaso: there are PCI soundcards that have a gameport |
| 21:08.12 | Kaso | hmm |
| 21:08.15 | ckknight | cladhaire: no, standard 10.5.4 |
| 21:08.28 | Cairenn | g0urra: I know, but those are the PvE guilds - I'm trying to find out about the PvP ones I heard mentioned - thanks though :) |
| 21:08.37 | Kaso | I'd be nice if i could find a serial, parallel and game card |
| 21:08.42 | g0urra | Never heard of PvP guilds... |
| 21:08.45 | ckknight | cladhaire: I also only crash when trying to log in to my Draenei, who is mid-flight, everyone else is fine |
| 21:08.58 | cladhaire | weird |
| 21:09.22 | ckknight | I also cleared out all addons and the Config.wtf and such |
| 21:09.28 | Cairenn | question #2: who here has ever *bought* a blizzcon ticket before (as opposed to winning one or whatever) - need to ask someone some questions about them |
| 21:11.42 | cladhaire | Cairenn: I have |
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| 21:16.13 | Cairenn | ~lart MentalPower |
| 21:16.13 | purl | gives MentalPower a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 21:16.23 | Ackis | you can win tickets? |
| 21:16.28 | p3lim | how can I set an internal font object to a button i have? |
| 21:16.44 | p3lim | couldnt find anything on the wowwiki |
| 21:17.01 | p3lim | (2.4.3 this is) |
| 21:17.26 | Cairenn | most fan sites get a certain number of tickets that they can give to users via contests or whatever - at least, that's what Blizz has done in previous years, I presume they'll likely do the same again this year |
| 21:18.31 | Ackis | that's pretty cool |
| 21:19.03 | Ackis | isn't it a bit of a quandry though? you wait to win, but then can't buy a ticket since they're sold out? |
| 21:19.08 | ckknight | p3lim: either :SetTextFontObject or :SetNormalFontObject |
| 21:19.15 | ckknight | p3lim: not sure which |
| 21:20.36 | Ackis | ckknight: on a button? those won't work in beta right? |
| 21:20.46 | ckknight | I'm not sure |
| 21:21.19 | p3lim | its for 2.4.3 so it doesnt matter (for now), ill try them ckk |
| 21:21.25 | foxlit | for k, v in pairs(getmetatable(CreateFrame("Button")).__index) do if k:match("Font") then print (k); end end |
| 21:22.33 | p3lim | thanks foxlit! |
| 21:24.21 | foxlit | You found a working print()? :) |
| 21:25.09 | Shirik | Ackis: ebay :D |
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| 21:29.35 | p3lim | button:SetText("something") still works in beta, right? |
| 21:30.55 | foxlit | Hmmm |
| 21:31.09 | foxlit | I should rtfuccl |
| 21:32.08 | foxlit | "* Button objects appear to no longer have their own internal Font objects, and have replaced the various methods to alter them with methods to reference existing Font objects to use for each state (SImple color changes can still be done without creating your own Font objects by using the |c color escape) " |
| 21:32.37 | foxlit | That parenthesized bit raises all sorts of odd doubts |
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| 21:36.29 | Iriel | Whyso? |
| 21:36.37 | Iriel | button:SetText("|cffff0000Text") |
| 21:36.44 | Iriel | you can do that in 2.4 |
| 21:36.46 | Iriel | and 3.0 |
| 21:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765691246&sid=1 |
| 21:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh wow. |
| 21:43.55 | kd3 | rofl |
| 21:43.59 | kd3 | that's hilarious |
| 21:47.01 | Tekkub | I think after every release I submit I'm going to say "My task is done!" on IRC |
| 21:47.34 | Pneumatus | then you should think of the peon quote "more work?!" |
| 21:47.56 | Tekkub | My task is done! |
| 21:48.12 | Tekkub | hrm... wut more work? would be a good ping reply |
| 21:49.42 | Pneumatus | heh, infact peons have a "Job's done" quote also |
| 21:49.43 | zenzelezz | actually, "My task is done!" would probably be followed by a "Time for fun!", with all the naughty implications that carries |
| 21:50.12 | Tekkub | My task is done! ... god I need to not AFK beside Noth |
| 21:50.21 | kd3 | lol |
| 21:51.47 | zenzelezz | I considered using his "Rise my soldiers, rise and fight once more" sound for the alarm on my mobile |
| 21:53.06 | Xinhuan | i like "Sands of the desert, rise and block out the sun!" more |
| 21:53.30 | zenzelezz | I settled for "The time has come, the moment is at hand" |
| 21:53.50 | zenzelezz | but people give me a puzzled look when I receive an SMS. "I've had enough of this... die, DIE!" |
| 21:53.59 | Xinhuan | i used to be able to memorize rend's speech |
| 21:54.18 | kd3 | rofl... I'm dancing in my murloc suit on the other side of the dalaran barber shop death trap |
| 21:54.29 | kd3 | 3 people followed me in and promptly fell to their doom |
| 21:54.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 21:54.52 | Xinhuan | do u know the tcg fishing chair trick? |
| 21:54.56 | Lopeppeppy | kd3, you're wicked |
| 21:55.13 | Xinhuan | what happens is that as with any chair in the game |
| 21:55.24 | Xinhuan | you can (if you're in range of the chair) click on the chair |
| 21:55.31 | Xinhuan | then RUN and jump off a cliff |
| 21:55.32 | kd3 | I'm having a hard time not laughing out loud |
| 21:55.40 | Xinhuan | and the internet latency would teleport u back into the chair |
| 21:55.52 | Xinhuan | and enemy players will fall to their doom |
| 21:56.11 | Xinhuan | i.e you conjure your tcg chair next to the edge of the world |
| 21:56.19 | kd3 | meh, if I'm lagging bad enough I can blink halfway down a cliff and end up back on top |
| 21:56.26 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 21:56.36 | Xinhuan | well this isn't really lag based |
| 21:56.55 | Xinhuan | its more the fact movement is client side, and u jump off as the server acks your chair click |
| 21:56.57 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 21:57.07 | Shirik | i.e., lag |
| 21:57.15 | Shirik | >.> |
| 21:57.22 | p3lim | weird.. my fatique and breath bars are gone |
| 21:57.31 | Gnarfoz | <zenzelezz> but people give me a puzzled look when I receive an SMS. "I've had enough of this... die, DIE!" <-- I've got the murloc aggro sound for that. ;) |
| 21:57.46 | Xinhuan | people give me a weird look when my phone rings |
| 21:57.46 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: hehe |
| 21:57.56 | Xinhuan | because i used the DEFAULT ring tone that goes "ring ring..... ring ring" |
| 21:57.59 | Xinhuan | and people think i'm mad |
| 21:58.13 | Gnarfoz | yeah, for phone calls, I got a simple digital ringing sound >_> |
| 21:58.57 | p3lim | sony ericsson's ding-dong sound ftw? |
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| 21:59.41 | DARKGuy | lol, I hate that sound |
| 21:59.43 | haste | no sound > * |
| 21:59.46 | zenzelezz | hm, I'm tempted to go extract Ragnaros' "Too soon, you have awakened me too soon" sound for my alarm |
| 21:59.59 | tlund | BY FIRE BE PURGED! |
| 22:00.13 | DARKGuy | I actually have the "ding drum" sound for my wakeup alarm |
| 22:00.28 | DARKGuy | it goes like dindindingindingindigndingindigjng din din din din din dinridjriirdn din din diiiin |
| 22:00.33 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 22:00.41 | tlund | what is the latest and greatest program when it comes to extracting stuff? |
| 22:00.53 | tlund | i had problems with files larger than 2GB last time i tried :( |
| 22:01.02 | DARKGuy | Firefox + VideoDownloadHelper + DownThemAll! + Super (c) |
| 22:01.25 | zenzelezz | tlund: I use one called MPQEditor, can't recall where I found it |
| 22:01.58 | tlund | ill google :) |
| 22:03.50 | Gnarfoz | mywarcraftstudio still works, MPQeditor is also good |
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| 22:08.29 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz my friend |
| 22:09.25 | Thunder_Child | you going to take that Fisker-? |
| 22:10.42 | MentalPower | Cairenn: what did I do? |
| 22:10.44 | Gnarfoz | so uhm, woody disappeared from debian mirrors? :\ |
| 22:10.52 | Cairenn | MentalPower: sent you an email |
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| 22:12.09 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: dist-upgrade already |
| 22:12.18 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: never |
| 22:12.25 | nevcairiel | woody is like old! |
| 22:12.26 | Gnarfoz | I'd rather reinstall :X |
| 22:12.30 | Gnarfoz | yes, it is |
| 22:12.40 | Fisker- | why would you do such a thing Gnarfoz ? |
| 22:12.46 | Gnarfoz | dist-upgrade is like updating from windows ME to vista |
| 22:14.37 | MentalPower | Cairenn: replied |
| 22:14.38 | DARKGuy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDlf6hA6TY <- roflmao XD |
| 22:14.42 | Cairenn | MentalPower: thanks |
| 22:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | guh, note to self, when pre-heating the oven, take the cookie sheet you plan to use OUT first. |
| 22:48.16 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 22:56.43 | Thunder_Child | ~fail NightHawkTheSane |
| 22:56.44 | purl | NightHawkTheSane, you Fail! |
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| 23:32.00 | Kirkburn|sleep | nevcairiel, I've crashed out |
| 23:32.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | That's me done for today anyway |
| 23:32.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | 77, flying, and planning on buzzing ya'll until you get to 77 :P |
| 23:34.17 | foxlit | # It's far - beyond the stars; It's near - beyond the moon... |
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| 23:42.28 | MusicMan | so my addon is evidently incompatible... |
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| 23:43.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Fix your TOC number |
| 23:46.28 | Saiket | Anybody know if there's a way to get a spell's school when it's only targetting on the cursor? |
| 23:47.22 | Saiket | Something like what's provided in the combat log events, but before the spell is actually cast. |
| 23:48.29 | MusicMan | how do I fix my toc number |
| 23:48.39 | foxlit | GetSpellInfo? |
| 23:49.21 | MusicMan | ScytheBlade1: what do you mean? |
| 23:49.25 | Thunder_Child | Salesperson: "...and so you see Mr. Quizro, switching over to AT&T now would represent tremendous savings." Me: "Interesting. Will giant robots engage in radar sex?" Salesperson: "Pardon?" Me: "Giant robots. Under this plan you describe, will giant robots engage in radar sex?" Salesperson: "Um...I don't..." Me: "On the moon! Giant robots engage in radar sex on the moon! What about that?" Salesperson: "I'm afraid I don't know what yo |
| 23:49.57 | Lopeppeppy | TC, be nice to the poor salespeoples! |
| 23:50.21 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy. 1. that isnt me. 2. if that was me, that still would be the nice me |
| 23:51.15 | foxlit | be nicer |
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| 23:51.29 | Thunder_Child | i would break if i tried |
| 23:51.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dears. |
| 23:53.31 | Fisker- | Thunder_Child i am superior |
| 23:53.34 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 23:54.04 | g0urra | >:3 |
| 23:54.06 | Thunder_Child | sure you are.... |
| 23:54.21 | Fisker- | get out g0urra i was a lion first |
| 23:54.23 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 23:54.32 | g0urra | NO U get in the car |
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| 23:54.59 | g0urra | ~>:3 |
| 23:55.00 | purl | ACTION gets in the car |
| 23:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | purl, you know better than that. Come back here with me. |
| 23:56.23 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 23:56.23 | purl | Lopeppeppy: :) |
| 23:56.28 | |Jelly| | ~hug Peppy |
| 23:56.29 | purl | ACTION jumps into Peppy's lap and huggles and *hugs* Peppy |
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| 23:57.11 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, |Jelly| - dear! |
| 23:57.22 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 23:57.32 | |Jelly| | How are you? <3 |
| 23:57.41 | Shirik|Ecole | fine then |
| 23:57.43 | Shirik|Ecole | no hi for me |
| 23:57.52 | g0urra | hi Shirik|Ecole |
| 23:57.56 | Lopeppeppy | I said hi to you yesterday, Shirik! *hug* |
| 23:57.58 | |Jelly| | You have it turned so I can't see you log on. :( |
| 23:58.04 | |Jelly| | Don't be passive-aggressive! :P |
| 23:58.07 | Dimitri | Hehe, your funny. |
| 23:58.09 | Shirik|Ecole | It's too late now! |
| 23:58.12 | Lopeppeppy | I have more freckles, |Jelly| ! |
| 23:58.26 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Seerah too. |
