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| 00:00.37 | Kirkburn|afk | I mean, if they have the tech and methodology set up for WoW, makes sense for SC and Diablo too |
| 00:00.51 | Kirkburn|afk | Mebbe they could even merge them and have a Blizz launcher :O |
| 00:01.07 | Aella | *That* would make sense to me |
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| 00:01.34 | batrick | Cairenn|afk: is it too late to upload a ROFL contest mod? |
| 00:01.42 | Cairenn|afk | batrick: no |
| 00:01.51 | batrick | kk |
| 00:02.55 | cbreak | hmm... a graphic bug dragon on the login screen |
| 00:03.14 | Aella | Yay textureless |
| 00:03.57 | |pez| | ah, fuckit. I was going to write part 3 of my tutorial tonight, but the last two hours or so have been spent trying to help some guy getting Magento to work. -__-' |
| 00:03.58 | Kirkburn|afk | It's pretty |
| 00:04.07 | Kirkburn|afk | Definite pearly whites |
| 00:06.40 | Aella | What's this new "glow" XML attribute? |
| 00:14.02 | Kirkburn|afk | EU beta server is up |
| 00:14.09 | Lonny` | Ah nice :) |
| 00:14.32 | Lonny` | I'm trying to create a torrent out of the downloader :P |
| 00:14.46 | Slix | I tried to do the Perf Tracker |
| 00:14.47 | Slix | But.. |
| 00:14.52 | Slix | I got no conclusive result. |
| 00:14.56 | Slix | Heres the problem: |
| 00:15.46 | Slix | After running wow for a bit (/reloadui seems to reset this problem), every 4 seconds, my fps spikes down to about 15 for about 1 second |
| 00:16.47 | Slix | I was unable to see if any of my addon's cpus spiked at this time.. |
| 00:19.12 | Slix | Any ideas? |
| 00:20.04 | Dashkal | How is your memory? Is it spiking quickly and hitting GC every 4 secs or something strange like that? |
| 00:20.05 | Kaso| | no addons running at abnormally high cpu time? |
| 00:20.24 | |pez| | Some people should just pay to get other people to install their software. >__> |
| 00:20.50 | Slix | Dashkal: Whats GC, and I haven't checked... It's hard to while in fullscreen x_x;; |
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| 00:20.57 | Slix | Kaso|: Haven't tried that |
| 00:21.18 | Kaso| | how else were you looking for the problem addon? |
| 00:21.23 | Dashkal | Slix: It's unlike the cause, but I was suggesting that if you had an addon going haywire allocating and discarding memory, your garbage collector would spaz |
| 00:21.56 | Slix | Kaso|: Performance something |
| 00:21.56 | Slix | Hmm |
| 00:22.07 | Dashkal | unlikely* |
| 00:22.21 | Kaso| | hmm? what do you mean exactly, what addon are you using to see performance, what is it telling you |
| 00:22.56 | Slix | Performance.. |
| 00:22.59 | Slix | Tracker |
| 00:23.00 | Slix | Thats it |
| 00:23.10 | Slix | Well, it shows memory and cpu usage for each addon |
| 00:23.30 | Slix | Though it might be that addons aren't even causing this bug.. |
| 00:23.43 | Slix | Argh, I don't want to go through and disable all my addons |
| 00:24.00 | Kaso | ok, well what are the top few addons and their relative cpu time? |
| 00:24.19 | Dashkal | Slix: If it comes to that, disable all of them, then enable them half at a time until the bug comes back. |
| 00:24.48 | Slix | I didn't write down cpu... but at the top was questhelper.. |
| 00:24.49 | Slix | And.. |
| 00:24.50 | Slix | Umm |
| 00:24.58 | Slix | I don't remember anything else x_x;; |
| 00:25.16 | Slix | I looked at all of their cpus, they didn't seem to spike during the fps lag |
| 00:25.45 | Xuerian | Ooo, untextured dragon, awesome |
| 00:26.12 | Slix | Its not easy to replicate.. |
| 00:26.24 | Slix | It takes time for the bug to appear.. |
| 00:26.45 | Kaso | the cpu times are a clumative total, you'd have to spot is a change in rate of change of the cputime. Im not sure what info performance tracker gives you, i guess theres no charts etc? |
| 00:26.54 | Slix | Nope |
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| 00:28.27 | Duman | grr, so slow |
| 00:28.45 | Duman | wtb direct download |
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| 00:29.33 | Kaso | If an addon did enough crap to cause fps spikes like that it should make a noticable impact on cpu time charts |
| 00:29.38 | Icecoldcoke | The dragon on the login screen is pretty cool. |
| 00:29.57 | Icecoldcoke | Other than it being completely unfinished |
| 00:30.11 | Slix | So I should open up taskmanager? |
| 00:30.27 | Kaso | hmm? |
| 00:30.39 | Duman | ahh there we go |
| 00:30.42 | Duman | 400KB/s |
| 00:30.44 | Duman | much better |
| 00:30.49 | Duman | 500KB |
| 00:31.07 | Slix | o_O |
| 00:31.12 | Duman | found a good peer I guess :) |
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| 00:31.36 | Duman | oh, it's a blizzard source |
| 00:31.39 | Duman | heh |
| 00:32.13 | Duman | hola cairenn |
| 00:32.17 | Slix | Grr |
| 00:32.19 | Cairenn | hi |
| 00:32.24 | Slix | I get back into WoW and this happens. |
| 00:32.26 | Slix | So annoying |
| 00:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 00:33.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:33.37 | foxlit | oh wow |
| 00:33.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Wrong URL |
| 00:33.40 | Duman | slix: try disabling all other running programs? like virus scanners, etc |
| 00:33.44 | foxlit | what have they done to UnitAura/UnitBuff timer returns |
| 00:33.52 | Duman | sbo: I'm good, the download picked up |
| 00:33.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah k |
| 00:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:34.01 | ScytheBlade1 | For anyone else then |
| 00:34.02 | Duman | over 500KB/s right now... pegging my DSL I guess :) |
| 00:34.20 | Kemayo | Any change to the patch notes in this one? |
| 00:34.40 | Slix | Duman: /reloadui fixes the bug |
| 00:34.54 | kd3 | huh... back |
| 00:35.09 | foxlit | changed: instead of timeleft, they now return expireTime |
| 00:36.19 | Slix | I'll disable all addons :( |
| 00:37.07 | Duman | slix: well, duh - that's step one :) |
| 00:37.43 | Iriel | In theory the new patch contains the most up to date secure handlers code, hopefully some developers out here can take it for a spin and make sure it works 8-) |
| 00:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It also contains some new stuff in the .xsd |
| 00:38.16 | ckknight | I demand framexml diffs! |
| 00:38.18 | ckknight | plz? |
| 00:38.29 | kd3 | soon |
| 00:38.33 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:38.36 | ckknight | it's all good |
| 00:38.36 | kd3 | I'm 2/3 done with patching |
| 00:38.43 | ckknight | when you have it, I'm not rushing you |
| 00:38.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://wowi.pastey.net/93362 <-- UI.xsd diff, from 2.4.whatever to latest beta |
| 00:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | The "glow" attribute makes me wonder |
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| 00:41.44 | Duman | hehe |
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| 00:46.05 | Duman | go go gadget download |
| 00:46.12 | Duman | still tricking along at 4Mbps |
| 00:46.17 | Duman | s/trick/truck/ |
| 00:46.30 | Kirkburn|sleep | Okay, srsly ... do not go into the Dalaran barbers |
| 00:46.36 | Kirkburn|sleep | You will probably die |
| 00:46.40 | kd3 | int diffs going out. anyone not on the email list? |
| 00:46.40 | Duman | heh |
| 00:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Err? |
| 00:46.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Die? |
| 00:46.48 | Kirkburn|sleep | Holes |
| 00:46.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:46.50 | Kirkburn|sleep | Big holes |
| 00:47.03 | Duman | they should make it a platform game |
| 00:47.10 | Kirkburn|sleep | New Dalaran looks awesome ... but it's a deathtrap |
| 00:47.18 | Kirkburn|sleep | Duman, that requires being able to see the holes :P |
| 00:47.25 | Duman | can't be as bad as some of the holes that were in alpha |
| 00:47.27 | ScytheBlade1 | My server is still down, so... |
| 00:47.51 | Duman | missing water texture = faaaalllllling splat |
| 00:47.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | Also, the UI/graphics are buggering up for me - if the camera moves, there's artifatcs all over |
| 00:48.05 | Kirkburn|sleep | And, of course, I cannot use the Dalaran teleport |
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| 00:49.59 | gmain | fail |
| 00:50.03 | gmain | typo ftl |
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| 00:50.42 | kd3 | email out |
| 00:50.45 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: got it |
| 00:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm, the wonders of IMAP |
| 00:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | That's one monster diff |
| 00:51.53 | kd3 | no kidding |
| 00:52.08 | Duman | holy shit they changed shield wall / retal / reck |
| 00:52.10 | Slix | Ok.. |
| 00:52.13 | Slix | Thats different.. |
| 00:52.16 | Slix | I disabled all addons.. |
| 00:52.17 | Slix | And.. |
| 00:52.20 | Slix | The fps problem remained |
| 00:52.35 | Duman | kd3: 3M diff, haha nice |
| 00:52.37 | Slix | o_o |
| 00:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds like it isn't addons then |
| 00:52.53 | kd3 | hm. unable to connect |
| 00:52.57 | ScytheBlade1 | same |
| 00:53.00 | Slix | Then what could it be? |
| 00:53.02 | Duman | slix: again, did you disable any other resident programs (virus scanner, etc, etc) |
| 00:53.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Servers are still down as far as I can tell |
| 00:53.17 | Icecoldcoke | Only EU servers are up, KD3 |
| 00:53.17 | Slix | Duman: Why should it matter? It happens after WoW has been running for awhile |
| 00:53.32 | Duman | Strange Things can happen :) |
| 00:53.36 | Duman | doesn't hurt to try |
| 00:54.05 | Slix | So.. I should turn off my virus scanner? o_o |
| 00:54.19 | Antiarc | kd3: Thanks! |
| 00:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, about 1/3rd of the entire diff is achievments UI changes |
| 00:54.29 | kd3 | np |
| 00:54.50 | Shirik | sigh |
| 00:55.07 | Antiarc | Holy 500mb patch, batman. |
| 00:55.13 | Shirik | lua> function foo(...) return ... .. ... .. ... end; print(foo("s")) |
| 00:55.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: sss |
| 00:55.16 | Shirik | omg it works |
| 00:55.16 | Antiarc | +COMBAT_THREAT_DECREASE_2 = "Losing Threat"; |
| 00:55.25 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.33 | kd3 | slouken posted a bunch of info on the threat situation |
| 00:55.34 | Slix | Duman: Other than leaving me unprotected, I don't see what that will do? |
| 00:55.40 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&pageNo=5&sid=1#80 |
| 00:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | nice, so he did |
| 00:55.51 | Antiarc | Ooh, great |
| 00:55.57 | Antiarc | I've been in New York on business |
| 00:56.00 | Antiarc | So I'm kinda out of date |
| 00:56.31 | Duman | slix: it's possible the resident (scan-on-open) portion of your virus program may be doing weird things... who knows. It's also highly unlikely you'll spontaneously get owned while playing wow |
| 00:56.46 | Duman | slix:try defragging your hard drive, i dunno |
| 00:56.52 | Slix | o_o |
| 00:57.02 | Slix | Defragging my harddrive to solve an fps problem? |
| 00:57.09 | Antiarc | Okay, Slouken's post is basically what we'd already figured out |
| 00:57.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 00:57.26 | Antiarc | Slix: If you're spending a lot of time seeking on the HD to load content, it can impact FPS |
| 00:57.28 | ScytheBlade1 | It explains the state though, which while nice, will go almost entirely unused |
| 00:57.28 | Duman | if your wow files are highly fragmented, the extra seek times could affect fps, sure :) |
| 00:57.29 | Iriel | He did add some details |
| 00:57.31 | Dashkal | Slix: that isn't entirely insane. Fragmentation slows down HD access. Longer load times -> slower game |
| 00:57.43 | Dashkal | <-- too slow |
| 00:57.48 | Antiarc | The meaning of 0-0 for UnitThreatSituation is useful |
| 00:57.50 | Antiarc | Err |
| 00:57.51 | Antiarc | 0-3 |
| 00:57.52 | Iriel | at least things i hadn't seen anyone figure out yet.. around the exact specifics |
| 00:57.57 | Slix | Oook.. but its not while i'm walking and it needs to get data |
| 00:58.01 | Slix | Its a specific time.. |
| 00:59.50 | Slix | So it shouldn't effect anything.. |
| 00:59.55 | Slix | And defragging is gonna take some time.. |
| 01:00.01 | Slix | I wanted to catch up with my friend today... |
| 01:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, we have some new font types |
| 01:00.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Not many though |
| 01:01.29 | Ackis | wow airlines are cheap bastards |
| 01:01.39 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: I'm pulling 800kb/s from your server and love it. |
| 01:01.40 | Duman | slix: I dunno what you want... I'm offering possible things to check that might cause it, but you don't want to do any of them |
| 01:01.41 | Duman | *shrug* |
| 01:01.42 | Ackis | gonna cost me $30 to check a bag on the flight |
| 01:01.50 | Duman | Fly southwest |
| 01:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: good! |
| 01:02.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: you should be able to pull more though, is that your connection download cap? |
| 01:02.12 | ScytheBlade1 | If it isn't I'm going to have to tune httpd a bit more |
| 01:02.19 | Slix | My virus scanner hasn't caused me any problems.. |
| 01:02.25 | Duman | Interesting |
| 01:02.26 | Slix | And defragging sounds like a last resort.. |
| 01:02.29 | Duman | Fear Immunite removed from recklessness |
| 01:02.34 | Duman | and it's +100% cri for special attacks |
| 01:02.38 | Duman | (5m cooldown) |
| 01:02.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Slix: try the tech support forums then? |
| 01:02.51 | Duman | *crit |
| 01:02.59 | Slix | Sigh.. |
| 01:03.05 | Antiarc | No, I should be able to pull 12 mbits, I think. |
| 01:03.14 | Antiarc | In theory |
| 01:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, meg and a half |
| 01:03.24 | Antiarc | But it's cable, so maybe someone on my hub is sucking bandwidth |
| 01:03.31 | Industrial | someone on EU horde wotlk beta |
| 01:03.34 | Industrial | invite Natarle |
| 01:03.35 | Industrial | ty |
| 01:04.14 | ScytheBlade1 | -creatureID, creatureName, icon, active = GetCompanionInfo(PetPaperDollFrameCompanionFrame.mode, id); |
| 01:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | +creatureID, spellID, creatureName, icon, active = GetCompanionInfo(PetPaperDollFrameCompanionFrame.mode, id); |
| 01:04.20 | ScytheBlade1 | spellID was added |
| 01:04.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay |
| 01:04.27 | Antiarc | Oooh |
| 01:04.30 | Antiarc | Apparently not |
| 01:04.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Here's to hoping our regular mount macros will work soon! |
| 01:04.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently not? |
| 01:04.52 | Antiarc | speedtest.net puts my upload/download at 6500kb/s down, 850kb/s up |
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| 01:05.21 | Antiarc | http://www.speedtest.net/result/306755164.png |
| 01:05.29 | Cairenn | just a reminder guys - WoWI's Addons Gone Crazy contest submissions closes at midnight pacific tonight |
| 01:05.29 | ScytheBlade1 | So that's pretty much capping you then, good |
| 01:06.11 | ScytheBlade1 | heh @ this random line in the diff |
| 01:06.12 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:07.03 | Shirik|AFK | lol |
| 01:08.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really curious what MISTER_SPARKLE is used for now |
| 01:09.06 | ScytheBlade1 | US servers up it seems |
| 01:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe, stuck on connected.. |
| 01:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Normally I don't even get this far :P |
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| 01:11.24 | Aznamir | Yes they are |
| 01:11.32 | Icecoldcoke | ScytheBlade1 - It's been like that for a while now |
| 01:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 01:11.39 | ckknight | Cairenn: I didn't know there was a contest |
| 01:11.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey I'm in |
| 01:11.41 | ckknight | I should enter |
| 01:11.49 | Icecoldcoke | :o just got in |
| 01:11.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup same |
| 01:12.04 | Cairenn | ckknight: it was in the topic for a while |
| 01:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | US servers are up |
| 01:12.16 | ckknight | Cairenn: yes, but I have issues paying attention :-P |
| 01:12.20 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 01:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Erm |
| 01:12.37 | ScytheBlade1 | WTF |
| 01:12.43 | Icecoldcoke | :o @ Eye of the Storm change.. it's a passive pushback resist. |
| 01:12.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I hit my CE Hoppogryph |
| 01:12.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And appeared on... an Elekk |
| 01:12.53 | ScytheBlade1 | THAT'S NOT EVEN A FLYING MOUNT |
| 01:12.56 | Icecoldcoke | Lucky, WTB elekk! |
| 01:13.01 | Amarande | Scythe: does it fly? LOL |
| 01:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 01:13.41 | Icecoldcoke | Is everyone alliance |
| 01:13.43 | Icecoldcoke | Horde is so lonely |
| 01:13.53 | Seerah | all the cool people are alliance ;) |
| 01:14.27 | Icecoldcoke | I have a 70 gnome warlock. |
| 01:14.38 | cbreak | damn dalaran is a death trap |
| 01:14.41 | Icecoldcoke | Is anyone else's game stretched out? |
| 01:14.47 | cbreak | mage talents still broken. |
| 01:15.03 | Slix | Dalaran? |
| 01:15.05 | Slix | Death trap? |
| 01:15.06 | Slix | Why? |
| 01:15.10 | kd3 | holes |
| 01:15.18 | cbreak | I fell out of dalaran twice |
| 01:15.21 | Slix | xD |
| 01:15.36 | cbreak | luckily once right into the graveyard under dalaran |
| 01:15.39 | cbreak | so no walking |
| 01:15.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Screenshots in a sec |
| 01:16.00 | Icecoldcoke | If you can't mount in an area your mount is greyed out now |
| 01:16.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765639627&postId=87646923276&sid=2000#0 |
| 01:16.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ said screenshots |
| 01:16.32 | Industrial | why does track nothing equal track humanoids? quite anoying in town |
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| 01:17.09 | Xuerian | Icecoldcoke: I'm horde >.> |
| 01:17.15 | cbreak | how about tracking something rarer like repair or class trainer? |
| 01:17.31 | Xuerian | No, forced track all |
| 01:17.55 | Xuerian | GOod for finding things... bad for finding what you want to find |
| 01:18.12 | Slix | I want a combination track herbs/mining nodes |
| 01:18.18 | Slix | It's annoying switching in between |
| 01:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Guild events work now |
| 01:20.02 | foxlit | Hm, so who has a theory as to how they made the new conditional showing of NPCs/WMOs work? |
| 01:20.14 | Amarande | Slix: meh |
| 01:20.22 | Amarande | as long as we're talking things that aren't gonna happen |
| 01:20.27 | Xuerian | WMOs? >_> |
| 01:20.27 | Amarande | I want a tracker that shows me players who don't suck |
| 01:20.28 | Amarande | LOL |
| 01:20.47 | foxlit | objects in the game world |
| 01:20.55 | cbreak | where? |
| 01:20.59 | Amarande | cbreak: so they've fixed the dalaran fall bug then |
| 01:21.07 | Amarande | last I heard, if you fell off Dalaran you ended up in XR |
| 01:21.09 | cbreak | the DK starting area? I think those are different zones I think |
| 01:21.31 | cbreak | I did fall out of it plenty. But after this patch it was worse than ever before |
| 01:21.36 | foxlit | It's not only the DK starting zones |
| 01:21.41 | cbreak | maybe I should not have eaten that last pizza :/ |
| 01:21.43 | Amarande | hell, XR isn't even in Northrend |
| 01:21.43 | Amarande | lol |
| 01:21.45 | foxlit | I think they added fully-fledged phasing |
| 01:22.00 | Amarande | cbreak: sorry, but heartburn is a red debuff, and can't be dispelled :) |
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| 01:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, they fixed Abracadabra. |
| 01:22.24 | cbreak | the pizza was worth it. |
| 01:22.29 | foxlit | Assign a phase integer to every npc/object/player |
| 01:22.41 | Icecoldcokeasdas | I think I earned a new achievement "First Blue Screen of Death for WOTLK" |
| 01:22.42 | cbreak | you mean layer? :) |
| 01:22.44 | foxlit | You only see objects in the same phase as you |
| 01:22.52 | kd3 | whoo. lots of retroactive achievements went live in this build |
| 01:23.08 | cbreak | layers are inflexible. it would work better with flags or similar |
| 01:23.12 | ScytheBlade1 | wow, no kidding |
| 01:23.16 | ScytheBlade1 | HA, I have TK and SSC |
| 01:23.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And Mag, and Gruul |
| 01:23.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 01:23.21 | cbreak | I don't :( |
| 01:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | 1585 points |
| 01:23.26 | cbreak | even have stockades |
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| 01:24.28 | cbreak | (The achievements noticed the ragnaros kill. I wonder how they tracked that) |
| 01:24.39 | cbreak | I thought they didn't store kills for raid bosses |
| 01:24.56 | Antiarc | Amarande: I fell off of Dalaran and landed without issue |
| 01:24.58 | foxlit | cbreak: got a mace? |
| 01:25.02 | Antiarc | Unless you mean falling off and dying repops you in XR |
| 01:25.02 | foxlit | BoP loot |
| 01:25.07 | foxlit | and quests, iirc. |
| 01:25.12 | cbreak | I am a frost mage. |
| 01:25.17 | cbreak | no one would give me the mace |
| 01:25.22 | Amarande | Antiarc: yeah, that was what was happening to people |
| 01:25.24 | foxlit | got the neck, then? |
| 01:25.29 | foxlit | you can't use a mace anyway :) |
| 01:25.34 | cbreak | hmm... could be. |
| 01:25.34 | Antiarc | Skyguard Cloak for the win |
| 01:26.02 | Antiarc | Whoa! |
| 01:26.04 | cbreak | I think XR is the center of the WoW world |
| 01:26.10 | Antiarc | Untextured frost wyrm on the login screen |
| 01:26.15 | cbreak | point 0,0,0 |
| 01:26.45 | ckknight | oh no, my ROFL addon made WoW crash |
| 01:26.48 | ckknight | lulz |
| 01:26.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: ROFL? ;D |
| 01:26.54 | kd3 | no... XR is the default gy for horde, much like westfall is for the alliance |
| 01:27.02 | ckknight | ScytheBlade1: it's a category on WoWI |
| 01:27.02 | Amarande | XR: where they put the war in Warcraft |
| 01:27.06 | ckknight | there's a contest |
| 01:27.12 | ckknight | and I'm making a horribly inane addon |
| 01:27.30 | Antiarc | Bah |
| 01:27.35 | Antiarc | Murder Spree is still NYI |
| 01:27.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: yeah that was my joke.. "ROFL, crashed WoW!" |
| 01:27.53 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:29.06 | Xuerian | ckknight: Preview? :P |
| 01:29.45 | ckknight | Xuerian: imagine an addon that prevented you from interacting with the world because it would be just too annoying to do so |
| 01:31.16 | Antiarc | I keep getting "Ensnared" in my SCT, but I don't see any debuffs. |
| 01:31.28 | Xuerian | ckknight: Hah |
| 01:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | NOO |
| 01:32.32 | Xuerian | lulz -_- |
| 01:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | The siege weapons are -awesome- |
| 01:32.57 | Xuerian | EK is still up |
| 01:33.01 | Antiarc | ScytheBlade1: Where? |
| 01:33.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080808_192931.jpg |
| 01:33.06 | ScytheBlade1 | As are the planes |
| 01:33.06 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: What, the siege carts? |
| 01:33.12 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 01:33.15 | Antiarc | Wintergrasp is open? |
| 01:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | forcing an upload of my screenshots |
| 01:33.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 01:33.27 | Xuerian | Niiifty |
| 01:33.36 | Tem | Anyone with the patch installed yet? |
| 01:33.49 | Tem | no servers yet, I assume? |
| 01:34.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Servers are up |
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| 01:34.37 | Tem | servers are up!? |
| 01:34.39 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.54 | Tem | I was watching tv trying to kill time because I wasn't expecting servers for another hour or so |
| 01:35.05 | cbreak | they are up. but not worth it really |
| 01:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080808_193109.jpg |
| 01:35.22 | cbreak | unless you like to drop from great hight having broken frost talents. |
| 01:35.23 | Xuerian | tem: US-Northerend is/was down for a bit |
| 01:35.28 | Xuerian | the area, not server |
| 01:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080808_193127.jpg |
| 01:35.54 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Awesome! Needs better pitch control though, maybe linked to camera? |
| 01:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 01:36.07 | Xuerian | Ahh |
| 01:36.09 | Xuerian | nifty |
| 01:36.12 | Xuerian | Reminds me of teh SPMA |
| 01:36.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Right-click mouse adjusts angle, pitch, direction |
| 01:36.26 | Xuerian | Awesome, just like spma |
| 01:36.31 | ScytheBlade1 | The last few (~10) screenshots in that directory are siege weapons |
| 01:37.03 | Xuerian | bah, piclens is retarded |
| 01:37.08 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, oooh vehicle ui |
| 01:37.09 | Slix | I |
| 01:37.11 | Slix | Hate |
| 01:37.13 | Xuerian | Should be able to handle a directory |
| 01:37.14 | Slix | FPS |
| 01:37.19 | Xuerian | Slix: Rofl. |
| 01:37.25 | Xuerian | Slix: I love em ;) |
| 01:37.28 | Tem | ScytheBlade1, is Lake Wintergrasp the reason for the 500MB download? |
| 01:37.33 | Slix | No, i like FPSers |
| 01:37.34 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 01:37.35 | Slix | I meant |
| 01:37.37 | Slix | frames per secnd |
| 01:37.41 | Xuerian | oh, hah |
| 01:37.42 | Antiarc | I'm having MASSIVE video artifacts while in flight |
| 01:37.44 | Slix | I'm having a stupid bug with that in WOW |
| 01:37.55 | Xuerian | Antiarc: I have massive video artifacts if I run fullscreen not windowed |
| 01:38.28 | Antiarc | I'm fullscreen windowed |
| 01:38.33 | Antiarc | err |
| 01:38.36 | Antiarc | maximized windowed |
| 01:38.59 | Xuerian | Odd. Do you have any issues going past half on terrain distance? |
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| 01:39.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Wintergrasp is still mostly non-functional |
| 01:39.29 | Antiarc | All the terrain "frills" are flicking madly |
| 01:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm seeing it as a zone that isn't forced PvP... so |
| 01:40.35 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 01:40.38 | Antiarc | WoW GPF's on me |
| 01:40.43 | cbreak | there are pvp quests that flag you for pvp |
| 01:40.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: nice |
| 01:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently I've reached level 80 |
| 01:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Or so the achievements panel is telling me |
| 01:43.41 | cbreak | grats |
| 01:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | UnitLevel("Sbo") = 77 |
| 01:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | And yet I have the level 80 achievement |
| 01:44.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Win |
| 01:44.14 | cbreak | what's current max level? |
| 01:44.19 | kd3 | 77 |
| 01:44.30 | Mikk | IN BEFORE THE BELL! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10150.html |
| 01:45.46 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:46.35 | Xuerian | Any addon control panel-like addons that are friendly with wotlk? |
| 01:47.16 | Icecoldcokeasdas | Would someone like tot ell me how I have the reach level 80 achievement at level 71 |
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| 01:50.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet, there's another bugged mount |
| 01:50.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Green Mechanostrider --> Green Kodo |
| 01:50.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080808_194831.jpg |
| 01:52.04 | Icecoldcokeasdas | This patch is filled with bugs so far. |
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| 01:52.49 | cogwheel | How come no one telepathically transmitted to me while I was offline the fact that a patch came out?!?!??! |
| 01:53.19 | Icecoldcokeasdas | I did, but your mind was busy. |
| 01:53.25 | NeoTron | Xuerian: what do you mean? |
| 01:53.42 | Xuerian | Neo|Home: ACP bugs out on me something fierce |
| 01:53.50 | NeoTron | ah got one for you |
| 01:53.58 | NeoTron | Ampere |
| 01:54.04 | NeoTron | from the wotlk category |
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| 01:54.13 | Xuerian | thanks |
| 01:54.23 | NeoTron | Get ButtonBin too and you get a launcher button for it |
| 01:55.44 | Industrial | Anyone know a good error addon that catches errors and shows a nice stack trace/ |
| 01:55.55 | Industrial | that, ofcourse, works in the wotlk beta |
| 01:56.45 | Icecoldcokeasdas | Siege UI changed |
| 01:57.16 | Xuerian | Industrial: Bugsack was working when I tried it... but of course, that could be why baggins wasn't working... |
| 01:58.24 | Industrial | Xuerian: bugsack worked so baggins didnt? o_O |
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| 01:58.51 | Xuerian | Well I was getting a bigass todo about acedb not wanting to register another copy of it'self.. (the wotlk branch), while it works for others, so clearly ymmv |
| 01:59.16 | Industrial | Ace2? imo let it die :D |
| 01:59.44 | NeoTron | Industrial: bugsack works |
| 02:00.13 | NeoTron | does someone currently maintain baggins? |
| 02:00.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Niiiiice |
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| 02:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Living bomb causes mobs to evade when it goes off |
| 02:00.57 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:02.40 | foxlit | bloodworms nerf in 3... :) |
| 02:02.45 | Mikk | NeoTron: yes, Nar.giddley does |
| 02:03.00 | Duman | woo |
| 02:03.04 | Mikk | And me to some extent |
| 02:03.45 | Ackis | hehe new feat of strength |
| 02:04.16 | Ackis | yellow brewfest stein 2k7 :D |
| 02:04.24 | Xuerian | Industrial: I don't care if ace2 dies, It's the addons that use it that I care about :( |
| 02:05.29 | cogwheel | anyone else unable to connect to live? |
| 02:05.48 | Xuerian | cogwheel: Live? pff, what's live? |
| 02:05.54 | Arrowmaster | Ace2 is sorta working, trying to track down one bug right now |
| 02:06.01 | Xuerian | Mikk: Also, awesome rofl addon |
| 02:06.25 | Mikk | Oooohhh it's already approved? Niiice |
| 02:06.29 | Mikk | Gifv dragon kite =) |
| 02:06.36 | cogwheel | Xuerian: like that thing you do when your ISP won't give you full bandwidth for torrents... |
| 02:06.41 | Xuerian | I didn't USE it, I just like the idea :P |
| 02:06.56 | Mikk | http://mikk.wowforge.com/AirwolfTheme.mp3 if you want to just reminisce :P |
| 02:07.00 | Xuerian | cogwheel: Damn, fail :( |
| 02:07.22 | cogwheel | oh... 3rd try's a charm apparently |
| 02:07.44 | Ackis | anyone have a snowball on pvp horde beta server? |
| 02:09.30 | Mikk | Ackis: seriously, having that is a feat? |
| 02:09.35 | Mikk | I've got a filled one in my bank :o) |
| 02:09.36 | Ackis | mikk: yes |
| 02:09.43 | Ackis | want a screenshot? :) |
| 02:10.01 | Mikk | Nah I'll go cheer myself tomorrow =) |
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| 02:11.10 | Ackis | hmm if I ask for an item on beta from a gm, will they give it to you for testing purposes? |
| 02:11.40 | Corrodias | you know, i have no idea |
| 02:11.47 | Duman | probably not |
| 02:11.52 | Duman | but you can (of course) try :) |
| 02:12.19 | Arrowmaster | are you wanting snowballs? |
| 02:12.25 | Duman | I have some snowballs |
| 02:12.32 | Duman | are you on northrend alliance? |
| 02:12.49 | Arrowmaster | because engineers can make them if they have the snowmaker thingy |
| 02:12.58 | Duman | oh, how about I read |
| 02:12.58 | Duman | <07:07PM Ackis> anyone have a snowball on pvp horde beta server? |
| 02:12.59 | Duman | haha |
| 02:13.18 | Mikk | go find him & toss them at him |
| 02:13.20 | Xuerian | Why a snowball? >_> |
| 02:13.28 | Arrowmaster | oh your on pvp? |
| 02:13.30 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 02:13.55 | Ackis | I wanted to test out the wintersveil pets to see if they get learnt |
| 02:14.17 | Mooninaut | nope, they're still used items |
| 02:14.17 | Mooninaut | well at least they were last patch |
| 02:14.24 | Arrowmaster | so umm |
| 02:14.36 | Ackis | Mooninaut: do you have a snowball? :D |
| 02:14.55 | Arrowmaster | I just ran !!Warmup on wotlk, and Ace2 loaded twice.... |
| 02:15.06 | Mooninaut | Maybe? I forget |
| 02:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: haha, win |
| 02:15.24 | Mooninaut | My sister's an engineer, she should have some |
| 02:15.39 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Cause a acedb error? or did you fix that? |
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| 02:15.48 | Arrowmaster | im trying to fix that right now |
| 02:15.59 | Arrowmaster | and figure out why the fuck Ace2 is loading twice |
| 02:17.02 | Arrowmaster | the order goes, !BugGrabber, Ace2, DewdropLib, Ace2, ACP |
| 02:19.45 | Arrowmaster | question is why the fuck is Ace2 loading twice, and why the fuck is AceDB-2.0 the only one throwing that error |
| 02:20.54 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: need help? |
| 02:21.20 | Seerah | I just re-downloaded addons to try embedded instead of with standalone libraries - someone said that helped (if it's a clue) |
| 02:21.25 | Seerah | still downloading patch though |
| 02:21.33 | Ackis | Seerah: I've had problems like that as well |
| 02:21.40 | Seerah | anyone know of a mirror for the latest build? |
| 02:21.44 | Ackis | two babble libs wouldn't load for someone w/o embedded |
| 02:21.50 | Ackis | yet works perfectly for me embedded |
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| 02:22.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah i figured that one out |
| 02:22.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Seerah: yeah, sec |
| 02:22.12 | Arrowmaster | OptDeps arent loading LoD stuff |
| 02:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.25 | Arrowmaster | but AceLibrary is since it calls LoadAddOn() |
| 02:23.11 | Industrial | this is weird |
| 02:23.19 | Industrial | is my auto shot not affected by other shots anymore? |
| 02:23.29 | Industrial | eg i can spam wtf i want and it auto shots? |
| 02:23.38 | Garoun | hmm is the WDN updated with the fonstrings and such |
| 02:23.54 | Industrial | no.. thats not true.. |
| 02:24.04 | Industrial | auto shot seems to fire much faster tho |
| 02:24.16 | Garoun | nm, found it :P |
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| 02:24.20 | Industrial | eg, not the speed but the time you see the arrow fly after a skill |
| 02:24.33 | Seerah | pewpew |
| 02:25.06 | Industrial | indeed :p |
| 02:25.14 | Industrial | but its throwing off my timing :( |
| 02:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 02:25.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Just about every tick of Living Bomb can (1) crit (2) proc impact (3) AoE knockback |
| 02:25.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It can also be applied to multiple targets now |
| 02:26.14 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Sounds like a real number-cloud spell O_o |
| 02:26.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds like /awesome/ |
| 02:26.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I counted three knockbacks on a single target with it |
| 02:26.52 | Cide | except |
| 02:26.57 | Cide | gimmicky aoe is gimmicky |
| 02:27.36 | Arrowmaster | OMG |
| 02:27.49 | Arrowmaster | i think i might have figured out this bug thats loading Ace2 twice |
| 02:27.53 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 02:28.07 | Industrial | kill ace2, go ace3 go! |
| 02:28.32 | Arrowmaster | AceDB-2.0 tries to see if Dewdrop is loaded |
| 02:28.46 | Arrowmaster | which causes AceLibrary to try and enable it |
| 02:28.55 | Arrowmaster | and since Ace2 isnt loaded yet |
| 02:29.03 | Arrowmaster | it loads it again! |
| 02:29.28 | Xuerian | rofl. |
| 02:29.36 | Xuerian | why the hell does ADB2 check dewdrop? |
| 02:29.42 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue |
| 02:30.03 | Arrowmaster | but this is actually a blizzard bug in the change to IsAddOnLoaded() |
| 02:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow my client is crashy |
| 02:31.00 | Industrial | anyone on the EU beta server on the horde side in the wowi guild that can send Natarle an invite? |
| 02:31.50 | Xuerian | When did the fancy timer swirly get added to the default ui's unitframe buff/debuff icons? |
| 02:32.10 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: What's wrong with it? |
| 02:32.59 | Xuerian | Iriel: Loading addon is not classified as loaded, if I'm to venture a guess |
| 02:33.08 | ckknight | I have updated a ROFL addon |
| 02:33.10 | ckknight | err, uploaded* |
| 02:33.15 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Xuerian: er.. when they did the whole "you can see how long your own buffs/debuffs have left" thing |
| 02:33.38 | Iriel | Xuerian: It's not supposed to count as loaded until ADDON_LOADED is about to fire |
| 02:33.42 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: i think the problem is that GetAddOnInfo() is saying that an addon thats currently being loaded but hasnt finished, meaning ADDON_LOADED has not fired and IsAddOnLoaded() return has not changed, is still loadable |
| 02:33.49 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Huh. Nifty. Missed this, since pitbull aura still uses crappy version. |
| 02:34.08 | Cairenn | ckknight: need some sort of description :p |
| 02:34.08 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: and because of that blizzards own code is letting an addon get loaded more than once with LoadAddOn() |
| 02:34.17 | ckknight | Cairenn: okay, how do I change it? |
| 02:34.22 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: Ah, an unintended consequence... |
| 02:34.30 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: i think i can make an addon to easyly display this |
| 02:34.32 | Cairenn | go in and edit it? :p |
| 02:34.36 | ckknight | crafty woman. |
| 02:34.39 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I'll fire off an email to them |
| 02:35.43 | ckknight | okay, Cairenn |
| 02:36.47 | Ackis | anyone have an item ID for Competitor's Souvenir? |
| 02:38.30 | Industrial | meh, thats peanuts :p |
| 02:39.49 | ckknight | Cairenn: that suitable? |
| 02:39.54 | Cairenn | ckknight: yep |
| 02:40.55 | NeoTron | I swear I saw a link to an updated mapster someone, anyone knowwhere? |
| 02:41.38 | ckknight | test my new addon, everyone: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10152-ScreenFun111eleventy-one.html |
| 02:42.00 | Industrial | anyone on the EU beta server on the horde side in the wowi guild that can send Natarle an invite? |
| 02:42.10 | Arrowmaster | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93366 <- a reproduceable example of the LoadAddOn bug discovered by me |
| 02:42.33 | ckknight | what bug is this? |
| 02:42.38 | Arrowmaster | try it |
| 02:42.41 | Arrowmaster | its cool |
| 02:43.12 | Xuerian | Mirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirrormirroronthewall... |
| 02:44.27 | Cairenn | o.O Xuerian |
| 02:44.36 | Xuerian | Cairenn: Refer to pastey above |
| 02:45.07 | Cairenn | ah |
| 02:45.09 | Arrowmaster | awesome bug |
| 02:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's one incredibly buggy build |
| 02:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I've crashed six times in ten minutes |
| 02:45.28 | Arrowmaster | especially since it doesnt cause an inf loop |
| 02:47.48 | Garoun | man they really simplified their global fonts.xml file |
| 02:52.06 | ckknight | Cairenn: I misnamed the folder (screen-fun instead of ScreenFun), so I got a new version to approve ;-) |
| 02:52.36 | Cairenn | done |
| 02:52.42 | cogwheel | please tell me they just added that dragon to the login screen... |
| 02:52.48 | ScytheBlade1 | They did |
| 02:53.04 | NightHawkTheSane | it's always been there cogwheel, you're just going insane. |
| 02:53.21 | kd3 | well... there's portals for the battlegrounds... let's see if there's a usable texture I can put on the annotated dalaran map |
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| 02:59.49 | Xuerian | Anyone else getting double coin loot messages? >_> |
| 03:01.36 | Ackis | on live I was |
| 03:01.40 | Ackis | but I had 2k ping |
| 03:03.12 | Garoun | well, clearfont2 was easy enough to get working |
| 03:03.37 | Ackis | so, guild asks me to write mod for them, guild proceeds to shit on my gf and forces her out, we both leave the guild, I revoke permission for them to use that mod (and add code preventing them) and they're upset? |
| 03:03.57 | Garoun | lol |
| 03:05.24 | Ackis | am I douche for doing that/ |
| 03:05.31 | Xuerian | Ackis: That's weird, I'm getting them on beta |
| 03:05.51 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080808_210408.jpg <-- gnome with a mohawk |
| 03:05.53 | Ackis | ahh I didn't kill a thing on beta at all |
| 03:05.59 | Xuerian | Ackis: Lol, bad choice on the guild's part. Don't piss off authors. |
| 03:06.15 | Icecoldcokeasdas | Anyone else get a teleport by a quest.. then go falling through the terrain onto a place where you can't rez? Oh that's just me. |
| 03:06.15 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: Awesome, finally decent gnome haircuts |
| 03:06.32 | Ackis | Xuerian: it was worse, holy priest (#1 on heals, am pretty damn good) with 99.9% raid attendance |
| 03:06.57 | Xuerian | Ackis: Any good reason to go after your gf? |
| 03:07.07 | Ackis | (I'm not blowing my own horn, other people have told me I'm good, personally I think I'm average) |
| 03:07.08 | jaxdahl | so, did addon authors get their keys yet? |
| 03:07.13 | foxlit | "and add code preventing them" if your addon is public, what you're doing is futile |
| 03:07.16 | Xuerian | jaxdahl: Yeeesss |
| 03:07.23 | jaxdahl | cool |
| 03:07.25 | Ackis | Xuerian: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Ackis#Team_Ice_.5B10.5D |
| 03:07.26 | jaxdahl | i'm patching now |
| 03:07.28 | Xuerian | foxlit: Not if people are afraid of writing code |
| 03:08.18 | Ackis | foxlit: they have no idea how to code for the most part, the license states that it's "all rights reserved" and I made a post on the forums stating they cannot use it anymore (so I think I'm legally backed up?) |
| 03:10.49 | jaxdahl | patch faster, darn you |
| 03:11.26 | foxlit | Ackis: even without that, you can basically do anything you want to |
| 03:12.55 | foxlit | They can probably do anything they want to, too - it wouldn't be following the license, but I doubt anyone would ever want to attempt to enforce those. |
| 03:14.00 | Ackis | wouldn't there be a blizzard mechanism to protect copyrights? |
| 03:15.10 | foxlit | of third parties? |
| 03:15.58 | ckknight | kd3: you wouldn't be in the mood to make a 8714 -> 8770 diff, would you? |
| 03:18.57 | kd3 | didn't I send one out? |
| 03:19.39 | kd3 | 3.0.1.8714-8770.diff 388K Download |
| 03:20.03 | Garoun | ok, lesson learned |
| 03:20.11 | Garoun | if you know the server is down for beta don't try to copy a character |
| 03:21.02 | Garoun | it causes it to fail and uses up the copy |
| 03:21.40 | ckknight | oh, sorry, kd3 |
| 03:21.49 | ckknight | opened the wrong one |
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| 03:24.21 | Ackis | foxlit: I guess I can send a cease and desist order heh |
| 03:24.35 | foxlit | to whom, exactly? |
| 03:25.02 | Ackis | the guild leader of the guild that's using it |
| 03:25.11 | kneeki | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/93374 <-- unexpected symbol on line 1... wth? |
| 03:25.27 | kneeki | near { specifically |
| 03:25.30 | Iriel | kneeki: you need a = |
| 03:25.38 | kneeki | ... |
| 03:25.46 | kneeki | *needs coffee* |
| 03:25.47 | Iriel | It told you EXACTLY what and where the problem was |
| 03:25.57 | foxlit | Meh, you'd need some real-word coordinates to do that |
| 03:26.04 | kneeki | Iriel: lol yes, but it didn't say. You need a = :p |
| 03:26.14 | Iriel | Well, no, because there are multiple options |
| 03:26.21 | Iriel | it said 'WTF is this { doing here?' |
| 03:26.26 | kneeki | Haha |
| 03:26.28 | kneeki | True that |
| 03:26.51 | kneeki | What's the horde Author guild on the lich king pvp server called? I cannot seem to find anyone |
| 03:27.08 | Xuerian | There isn't one |
| 03:27.11 | Xuerian | We're all on pvp |
| 03:27.13 | Xuerian | pve* |
| 03:27.39 | kd3 | rofl at the gnome mohawk... any nelves check for a nelf mohawk yet? |
| 03:28.42 | kneeki | booo |
| 03:28.44 | Industrial | wheres teh abrber |
| 03:28.50 | Industrial | (im not a nelf ofcourse) |
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| 03:37.11 | ckknight | Cairenn: so is my ScreenFun addon good enough for the contest? |
| 03:37.29 | Cairenn | it'll be considered :) |
| 03:37.35 | ckknight | hurrah! |
| 03:41.02 | kneeki | Hmmm.... I think the Feedback UI is fubaring up my addon (which creates buttons w/ spells) http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9489/wowscrnshot080808203941qw0.jpg |
| 03:45.59 | Kemayo | There are no Secure Templars on. :P |
| 03:46.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's because the client is amazingly crashy and the server isn't cooperating either |
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| 03:51.06 | kneeki | It's been awhile trying to do this; but will http://www.wowi.pastey.net/93376 work to set the default options, and then use the last line (as an example) to set that option? I'm not having much luck with it |
| 03:51.41 | kneeki | Or, must I use ClassButtonsDB['anOption'] = "stuff here" ? |
| 03:51.41 | batrick | !lua points(1766, 3) |
| 03:51.42 | batbot | batrick: > 623, 3 |
| 03:52.12 | Kemayo | That's a *lot* of stats in the achievements panel. I didn't realise it would tell you all that stuff. |
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| 04:07.37 | Garoun | lol they didn't do a forced talent respec |
| 04:07.52 | Garoun | so I now have 2 points in the first tier of Blood and 5 in the second |
| 04:09.12 | kneeki | GRRRRR |
| 04:09.25 | kneeki | Anger. It's what I experience when my addon is not saving my settings. |
| 04:09.59 | Rabbitbunny | that's nothing, mine saves all of them. even after you delete them. |
| 04:11.38 | Aiiane | kneeki: is this in an Ace3 addon you're writing? |
| 04:12.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. Thunderstorm hits for some fairly impressive damage... |
| 04:12.15 | kneeki | Aiiane: No, I'm actually rewriting it so it doesn't use Ace. I'm uncomfterable writing an addon which I don't know everything that's happening. |
| 04:13.25 | jaxdahl | checkbox in spellbook to show spell ranks.. hmm hmm nice |
| 04:13.39 | Aznamir | Dammit! SecureHandlerEnterLeaveTemplate are still bugged |
| 04:14.21 | Iriel | How this time? |
| 04:14.25 | Aiiane | kneeki: where are you checking to see whether you need your defaults set or not |
| 04:14.28 | Kemayo | Hmm. I'm a bit stalled on the starting death knight quests, since the eye of archaeus is blind. :P |
| 04:14.28 | Iriel | I thought we had that fixed 8-( |
| 04:14.34 | Aznamir | same as before, my buttons turn inside out |
| 04:14.51 | kneeki | Aiiane: I got it... I had local before my variable name =( |
| 04:18.31 | kneeki | hah. Would be nice if SetUserPlaced would work for a change. |
| 04:19.15 | Xuerian | Hmm, the textures for the dragon are in the game, wonder why it isn't textured |
| 04:22.13 | Duman | hmm |
| 04:23.07 | Xuerian | Another mystery chalked up to.. <spooky music> BUGGY BUILD |
| 04:24.18 | Duman | whoa |
| 04:24.25 | Duman | they're bringing the pvp ranks back? |
| 04:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, what? |
| 04:24.48 | Duman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765779955&sid=2000#9 |
| 04:25.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Interesting |
| 04:28.43 | Rabbitbunny | Awesome, Now there will be a point. |
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| 04:29.11 | Garoun | good looks like they fixed Corpse Explosion, it was a nightmare trying to get a corpse targeted during the 'event' |
| 04:29.15 | Xuerian | This is odd.. .Now both retail and beta are flipping out if I set visual distance > one notch below mid |
| 04:39.52 | batrick | anybody savvy (sp?) with sound cards know a good one to get? |
| 04:39.53 | batbot | batrick, savvy is correct. |
| 04:41.04 | batrick | !lua points(1766, 2) |
| 04:41.04 | batbot | batrick: > 538, 2 |
| 04:41.23 | Thunder_Child | creative |
| 04:42.39 | Kirov | batrick - good one for what? |
| 04:43.22 | batrick | uh 5.1 speaker system |
| 04:43.22 | Thunder_Child | creative |
| 04:43.23 | Kirov | on board audio |
| 04:43.23 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Kirov |
| 04:43.23 | purl | strangles Kirov with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 04:43.23 | batrick | there are tons of different cards by creative Thunder_Child ... |
| 04:43.28 | Kirov | Seriously, no one supports EAX anymore |
| 04:43.37 | Tekkub | people still buy sound cards? |
| 04:43.53 | durcyn | feh, creative is garbage |
| 04:43.54 | Thunder_Child | onboard depends on your mobo |
| 04:44.02 | Kirov | If people do surround sound, they probably use OpenAL, which RealTek supports |
| 04:44.48 | batrick | for the record, my on board sound is shitty, especially for the mic |
| 04:44.58 | Thunder_Child | yes because there is nothing but OpenAL....which creative also does |
| 04:45.41 | Kirov | batrick - then get the cheapest X-Fi you can find |
| 04:46.22 | Thunder_Child | though batrick, if you are going to upgrade your mobo any time soon i would wait, the onboard sound cards for the high end mobos are very good |
| 04:46.42 | batrick | I suppose |
| 04:46.56 | batrick | I will need to buy a new one when I get the new intel 8 core processor |
| 04:47.25 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:47.29 | Duman | oh, interesting |
| 04:47.37 | Xuerian | batrick: hat. hat. hat. It's on a rack, and i hat ju. |
| 04:47.39 | Duman | basically just [target=focus], hmm |
| 04:47.52 | batrick | Xuerian: huh? |
| 04:48.09 | Xuerian | "when I get the new intel 8 core processor" |
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| 04:52.25 | Kirov | batrick - Basically, creative's high end sound cards aren't made by them, and the audio chip on it can be found in many other products. The main thing you're buying when you buy a creative sound card is the EAX3 support ... which not a single modern game uses, and maybe 2 old games every added support for (and even then not full support) |
| 04:52.52 | Kirov | Look for a sound card with X-Fi, it's even on board some new gaming motherboards. |
| 04:53.26 | Xuerian | Kirov: Interesting, so the X-Fi is the chip, not creative's bit? |
| 04:53.33 | Kirov | Xuerian - yep |
| 04:53.41 | Xuerian | Wouldn't know it the way they promote it |
| 04:53.44 | Xuerian | nifty |
| 04:54.06 | Kirov | It sounds like a creative invented thing, but it's a third party company. |
| 04:54.56 | Duman | whoaaaaaaa |
| 04:54.58 | Duman | Death Strike heals you for 100% of the damage it dealt per disease on the target. If you hit with DS for 500 and have 1 disease it heals you for 500, two diseases would heal you for 1000 and so on. |
| 04:55.23 | kd3 | OP |
| 04:56.32 | Duman | full blood-spec DKs will probably never die |
| 04:56.34 | Duman | ever |
| 04:57.50 | Kirov | EMU20K1 and EMU20K2 are the chip sets that are "X-Fi" |
| 04:58.04 | Kirov | I believe curris logic is the actual manufacturer. |
| 04:58.54 | Iriel | cirrus? |
| 04:59.06 | Kirov | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_Logic |
| 04:59.13 | Iriel | They're a blast from the past! |
| 04:59.13 | Kirov | yes |
| 04:59.31 | Kirov | They're still around, they make chip sets for damn near everything that ARM isn't |
| 05:00.23 | Duman | heh |
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| 05:00.51 | Kirov | If you have onboard audio, it's probably a curris logic chip of some kind doing it. |
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| 05:02.20 | Kirov | That or Realtek |
| 05:02.34 | batrick | i cant seem to add an image for my addon on wowi ::( |
| 05:03.12 | batrick | nvm works now |
| 05:08.06 | Seerah | the horde broke the beta server |
| 05:08.40 | Sixen | hai |
| 05:14.36 | Duman | whoa |
| 05:14.42 | Duman | beta client just completely assploded |
| 05:14.47 | Duman | exited, no error window |
| 05:15.26 | Thunder_Child | they dont clal it beta for no reason |
| 05:15.30 | Thunder_Child | call* |
| 05:15.33 | Duman | hehe ;) |
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| 05:18.48 | Garoun | lol most AWESOME bug ever |
| 05:18.48 | jaxdahl | they certainly broke a lot in this build |
| 05:18.59 | Garoun | I had 10 bonechewer orcs dead around me |
| 05:19.11 | Garoun | and accidently hit Raise dead isntead of Corpse explosion |
| 05:19.18 | Garoun | it turned all 10 into ghouls for me |
| 05:19.24 | ScytheBlade1 | win |
| 05:19.29 | Thunder_Child | win indeed |
| 05:19.34 | Sixen | i win |
| 05:19.36 | jaxdahl | massive win |
| 05:19.53 | jaxdahl | improved rune tap cooldown reduction not working, it seems |
| 05:19.57 | Garoun | so they are just running over verything |
| 05:22.30 | Diao | o_o |
| 05:22.35 | Diao | what's the limit |
| 05:23.15 | jaxdahl | long live world server |
| 05:23.19 | Diao | on raise dead i mean |
| 05:24.31 | Cairenn | hokay, so .... logging into the beta server, they've added a dragon to the login screen .... is it white, like it's missing the textures, for anyone else? |
| 05:24.38 | |Jelly| | Blood or Unholy? I'm torn. :P |
| 05:25.31 | kd3 | cai; ya |
| 05:25.31 | Garoun | I'm blood Unholy |
| 05:25.48 | Cairenn | kd3: thanks |
| 05:25.58 | Garoun | 25/0/19 at level 58 |
| 05:26.32 | Kirov | Cairenn - I think it's a new art style they're trying. It's like the sketchy look that's popular in todays advertisement world, only for video games, just make everything look "unfinished" |
| 05:27.02 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 05:27.11 | Cairenn | was just making sure it wasn't a problem on my end :) |
| 05:28.10 | Tekkub | you have a problem on your end? |
| 05:28.17 | Tekkub | you should get some of that cream |
| 05:28.25 | Cairenn | nope, seems I don't |
| 05:28.32 | Cairenn | (me too, ScytheBlade1) |
| 05:28.59 | Amarande | "It's not NYI, it's just a new graphics feature!" |
| 05:29.09 | Cairenn | Amarande: heh |
| 05:29.20 | cogwheel | ~lart3mis |
| 05:29.21 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 05:29.39 | cogwheel | every time I see HKCU or HKLM I think of HKUI |
| 05:29.49 | ScytheBlade1 | HKUI |
| 05:29.51 | ScytheBlade1 | *? |
| 05:29.53 | kd3 | lol |
| 05:29.58 | cogwheel | Hello Kitty UI |
| 05:29.58 | kd3 | hello kitty UI |
| 05:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 05:30.02 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 05:30.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Cog, that's a problem |
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| 05:30.21 | Shirik | cogwheel: win |
| 05:31.11 | kd3 | rofl; http://www.nbc30.com/news/17137469/detail.html?dl=headlineclick |
| 05:31.32 | Tekkub | so Cairenn, got a bottle of that bear breathing fire wine |
| 05:31.37 | Tekkub | it sucks >< |
| 05:31.43 | Tekkub | but the bottle is cool |
| 05:31.44 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 05:33.35 | Sixen | So, you guys all hear about Russia pwning Georgia? |
| 05:34.05 | kd3 | yeah... one of the news articles I saw had a google map with the russian forces up I-16 outside of savannah, not too far from where I went to school |
| 05:34.06 | kd3 | >.> |
| 05:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait what? |
| 05:34.31 | cogwheel | kd3: think Bush'll raise the terror threat level now that the infidel dogs have arrested allah? |
| 05:35.06 | kd3 | oh, boo. they fixed the map. article in question: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hpNRP9ysixHH3P9izLJRjYT1ATkA |
| 05:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, lol |
| 05:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, classy |
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| 05:37.22 | Sixen | =O |
| 05:37.35 | Sixen | See, Georgia is one of our top allies for taking out the terrorists |
| 05:37.56 | Sixen | And then Iran is allied to Russia, and Iran said they want to blow the shit out of Israel with nukes, and Israel is our other top ally over there |
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| 05:38.49 | Sixen | Russia also said that they want to make sure the US gets into this |
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| 05:38.58 | Sixen | So we'll be big bad mad guyz. |
| 05:39.54 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 05:40.15 | Sixen | So you know, this is a dumb question, I never really thought about it, but how do you change your name like that? |
| 05:40.31 | cogwheel | /nick whatever |
| 05:40.54 | kevin1 | Oh hawt. |
| 05:40.56 | Diao | Hm. |
| 05:41.05 | Diao | Spell pushback changes in the latest beta push are.. interesting |
| 05:41.15 | batrick | what changes? |
| 05:41.25 | kd3 | two hits of pushback, then immune to further pushback |
| 05:41.25 | ScytheBlade1 | 1sec max pushback over two hits |
| 05:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 05:41.34 | batrick | thank god |
| 05:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Each hit is 0.5s |
| 05:41.41 | Sixen | Anyone going to BlizzCon? |
| 05:41.43 | Diao | That is a terrible idea |
| 05:41.44 | batrick | s/god/blizzard/ |
| 05:41.44 | cogwheel | my lock goes \o/ my rogue goes -_- |
| 05:41.46 | Diao | Hello casters |
| 05:41.51 | Diao | domination in everything :P |
| 05:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | s/terrible/terribly awesome/ |
| 05:41.57 | cogwheel | Sixen: o/ |
| 05:42.11 | batrick | it's really only terriblef or rogues |
| 05:42.11 | Sixen | =). |
| 05:42.28 | batrick | if you are a caster casting at a war/rogue beating on you... you are retarded |
| 05:42.28 | Sixen | I'll be there as well, =]. |
| 05:42.49 | batrick | err |
| 05:42.50 | cogwheel | kewl :) |
| 05:42.55 | batrick | it's really only terrible for hunters** |
| 05:43.42 | Diao | It's fine for warriors, but rogues and hunters really get wrecked with it |
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| 05:43.56 | Diao | And pve implications are huge.. no need for anti-pushback talents anymore |
| 05:43.58 | Diao | waste of 5 talent points |
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| 05:44.23 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 05:45.29 | Xuerian | batrick: OH MY LORD I LOVE THAT CHANGE |
| 05:45.42 | Xuerian | I don't know why I pinged you BUT I DON'T CARE |
| 05:45.46 | Xuerian | Aoe pulls.. mmmhm |
| 05:45.56 | Xuerian | no infinite pushback +D |
| 05:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | wait.. pushback changes? |
| 05:46.14 | NightHawkTheSane | how did i not notice that on my shaman. >.> |
| 05:46.52 | Diao | whoa |
| 05:46.56 | Diao | huge ret pally nerf.. |
| 05:47.03 | Diao | Crusader Strike (Tier 9) does not refresh judgements anymore. |
| 05:47.07 | Diao | Why would they do that?! |
| 05:47.19 | Xuerian | Diao: They nerfed shaman rooting too :( |
| 05:47.40 | Diao | well, root AND hex AND snare is kind of stupid |
| 05:47.45 | |Jelly| | So ... how long have you not been able to mount in Org? lol |
| 05:47.47 | Xuerian | No it's not >:O |
| 05:48.30 | Xuerian | since the buggy patch, jelly |
| 05:48.49 | |Jelly| | win |
| 05:50.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: thats probably a bug |
| 05:51.10 | Diao | It's not in the tooltip for the talent anymore :o |
| 05:51.14 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 05:51.22 | NightHawkTheSane | It seems -really- odd that they'd remove that... |
| 05:51.26 | Amarande | it makes Fear actually useful and to be possibly feared in PvP |
| 05:51.32 | Amarande | right now, you know what Fear actually does? |
| 05:52.18 | Amarande | right now, you cast Fear, or even Howl of Terror if you're not specced for it as an instant, and what really happens is that the warrior or rogue will simply beat on you until they have enough rage/energy to use Shield Bash/Kick, and then it does nada. |
| 05:52.25 | Diao | Also, what exactly is the difference between doing "weapon damage" and "100% of weapon damage" |
| 05:52.30 | Diao | Wouldn't that be the same thing? o_O |
| 05:52.37 | Amarande | And your shadow spells are locked out, not that it really matters since you'll probably be dead six seconds later anyway. |
| 05:52.53 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 05:53.00 | Diao | Bad warlock ^ |
| 05:53.01 | Diao | :P |
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| 05:53.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i found some kind of bug that crashes me every time i log in to my DK.. |
| 05:53.32 | Diao | We play WLD in 3s, and the lock I play with gets fears off fine, even with double melee attacking him. |
| 05:56.09 | Amarande | though locks really have all kinds of PvP issues right now |
| 05:56.16 | Thunder_Child | wow...the space siege installer is all kinds of fail |
| 05:56.30 | Amarande | mainly the current fact that all it takes is one rogue and one dispeller and a warlock is completely neutralized, to the detriment of his team |
| 05:56.38 | Diao | dispeller? |
| 05:56.48 | Amarande | Diao: someone who can remove fear/dots etc. |
| 05:56.59 | Diao | If they're spending cds to remove dots, they're not healing :p |
| 05:57.04 | Amarande | you really pretty much only need someone who can remove Magic type debuffs |
| 05:57.06 | Diao | And we wreck RMP |
| 05:57.09 | Diao | as WLD :p |
| 05:59.21 | Diao | Of the 2 classes that can defensively dispel, paladins are a complete joke against warlocks (controlled the entire fight), and priests are too busy trying to keep everyone alive to dispel. |
| 05:59.55 | Amarande | Diao: it seems to mostly come up in 5v4, and generally when the team that does not have the warlock is the one that attacks first |
| 06:00.08 | Diao | Oh, I don't play 5s |
| 06:00.10 | Amarande | er, did I say 5v4? I mean 5v5, but in such cases it tends to become 5v4 pretty quickly |
| 06:00.12 | Diao | Too hard to get 5 people on |
| 06:00.38 | Amarande | I think that was mostly blamed on Zul'Aman's release |
| 06:00.53 | Rabbitbunny | ...I'm getting evasion tanked by a 23+ barbed crustacean as a 54fury war... |
| 06:03.30 | Amarande | specifically, executioner making it too easysauce to zerg a cloth wearer |
| 06:04.10 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: can i get the ddl link for the beta patch from you? |
| 06:04.22 | Amarande | having worn plate, I can definitely confirm that about a third of the damage reduction even the best plate tank will ever have in their lifetime, comes from the first couple thousand armor or so |
| 06:05.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: yeah sec |
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| 06:05.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: bookmark: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/Beta/PC/ |
| 06:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Latest patch is here: http://files.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Patches/Beta/PC/WoW-3.0.1.8714-to-3.0.1.8770-enUS-patch.exe |
| 06:05.48 | Arrowmaster | thanks |
| 06:05.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure thing |
| 06:05.58 | Arrowmaster | friends dl is going really slow |
| 06:06.02 | Arrowmaster | i blame comcast |
| 06:06.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And if that doesn't cap your downstream, I want to know just how much downstream you have and how fast it's going ;) |
| 06:06.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I've pushed 40mbit/sec upstream before, but that was with rtorrent and not apache... and I want to fine-tune apache a bit |
| 06:12.36 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, is your ftp acces working yet? |
| 06:12.39 | Thunder_Child | access* |
| 06:12.42 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 06:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: it does, but I forgot my password. :( Your should, but it's been renamed without the _0 part of the username |
| 06:14.06 | Thunder_Child | let me check |
| 06:14.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't try more than 5 times period |
| 06:14.37 | Thunder_Child | no, my PW still fails |
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| 06:15.01 | Thunder_Child | and your sure thats for the FTP? because thats what it is for mysql |
| 06:15.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Add @domain for FTP on the user |
| 06:15.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, let's not poke /too/ much. Just bug Lunessa when he's here next. |
| 06:16.57 | Thunder_Child | oh..look at that, i got in |
| 06:17.06 | Thunder_Child | thanks ScytheBlade1 |
| 06:17.11 | ScytheBlade1 | sure thing |
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| 06:20.02 | Quezacolt | Is it okay to log into your live account while the WotLK beta is downloading? The wait is killing me :( |
| 06:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Of course |
| 06:20.47 | Diao | I don't see why it wouldn't be. |
| 06:20.55 | Thunder_Child | hmm... it doesnt seem all that different http://beta.gamespot.com/ |
| 06:21.17 | Thunder_Child | also Quezacolt, you can log into both your live and beta account at the same time, afaik. |
| 06:22.27 | Fisker- | i hate you Thunder_Child |
| 06:22.30 | Iriel | You can indeed |
| 06:22.45 | Iriel | They're entirely independent authorization / login systems |
| 06:23.34 | Thunder_Child | hatred (sp?) |
| 06:23.35 | batbot | Thunder_Child, hatred is correct. |
| 06:23.48 | Fisker- | yay |
| 06:23.55 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:24.26 | Fisker- | ok |
| 06:24.31 | Diao | o_o |
| 06:24.34 | Fisker- | i spent 21000g on postage |
| 06:24.54 | Diao | Erm.. there's that many factions? |
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| 06:30.00 | Nom- | wow... huge beta patch |
| 06:30.12 | Nom- | 489M |
| 06:31.53 | Anaral | Fisker-: My suspicion is that the retroactive achievment math is off somewhere. ;) |
| 06:33.23 | MentalPower | hmm... anyone here follow the DNS vulnerabilities details at all? I'm trying to ascertain if what my idiotic ISP did to "fix" it actually does or if its just a bandaid to get me to shut up |
| 06:33.45 | Nom- | MentalPower: There is a test page for it... |
| 06:34.25 | MentalPower | right, but the test page reports a DNS server that isn't even in the same country as I am |
| 06:34.36 | Nom- | http://www.doxpara.com/ |
| 06:34.41 | MentalPower | I know the page |
| 06:34.51 | MentalPower | I've been using it since it came out |
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| 06:35.21 | Nom- | Your ISP's name server, 203.55.230.105, has other protections above and beyond port randomization against the recently discovered DNS flaws. There is no reason to be concerned about the results seen below. |
| 06:35.26 | Nom- | *winnar* |
| 06:35.45 | MentalPower | basically lets say my ISP's DNS server is located at 1.2.3.4 but the doxpara page (and the dnsstuff page) both report 5.6.7.8 as the DNS they're "testing" |
| 06:36.14 | Nom- | You might find that 1.2.3.4 is an SLB IP address |
| 06:36.31 | MentalPower | SLB? |
| 06:36.43 | Nom- | If your ISP is big enough, they won't have 1 DNS server...they'll have many sitting behind an SLB (Server Load Balancer) |
| 06:37.04 | MentalPower | my ISP is not that big |
| 06:37.14 | MentalPower | I'm dead sure they only have two DNS servers |
| 06:37.31 | Nom- | How big is not big? |
| 06:37.48 | MentalPower | <60k |
| 06:38.27 | Nom- | hmm what ip does your computer use, and what ip does the page report |
| 06:40.03 | MentalPower | the DNS servers are at 70.45.95.8 and 70.45.95.9, both pages report 209.55.5.10 |
| 06:40.53 | MentalPower | my own IP is in the same class B as the DNS servers |
| 06:42.05 | MentalPower | my ISP owns the 70.45.0.0/17 range actually |
| 06:42.15 | MentalPower | so technically its not a full class B |
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| 06:46.22 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:46.33 | Nom- | well the ip 209.55.5.10 is owned by ibbsonline.com |
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| 06:46.38 | Nom- | who provide virtual ISP services |
| 06:46.51 | Nom- | IBBS provides broadband operators with robust privately labeled email and web messaging capabilities that exceed the requirements of their end users. Inbound and Outbound messages are scanned and filtered for spam and virus activity using some of the latest technologies available, thereby protecting the networks of both the operator and the end user. |
| 06:47.08 | Nom- | So, what you'll find, is the DNS servers are really owned by IBBS |
| 06:47.54 | Nom- | the DNS servers you're using will be effectively forwarders to the real DNS servers |
| 06:48.41 | MentalPower | that recently changed then |
| 06:49.00 | Nom- | Anyone seen any patch notes for Build 8770 ? |
| 06:49.10 | MentalPower | since as of yesterday, the 70.45.95.* were still the "real" ones |
| 06:49.26 | MentalPower | I'm still curious if this fix will do the job |
| 06:51.36 | Anaral | I want this Achievment title: "[L]They Love Me In That Tunnel" |
| 06:52.48 | Diao | there's some on mmo-champion Nom- |
| 06:52.58 | Diao | Nothing official as of yet, though |
| 06:53.59 | Anaral | The most official we'll probably get is the stickied thread at the top of the beta general forums. |
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| 06:54.19 | Anaral | But it only has very few minimal changes. |
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| 06:56.14 | Thunder_Child | ~moo |
| 06:56.15 | purl | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
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| 06:57.47 | Ackis | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:57.47 | purl | shoves a crumpet down Thunder_Child's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 06:58.38 | Ackis | http://ackis.myminicity.com/ <--- best place to download the patch amiright? :P |
| 06:58.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart Ackis |
| 06:58.45 | purl | crushes Ackis with a full height scsi disk |
| 06:58.50 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Ackis |
| 06:58.51 | purl | Ackis: FAIL! |
| 06:59.01 | Ackis | ScytheBlade1: how many people should I give that link out to btw? |
| 06:59.16 | Rabbitbunny | Ackis: Just me. |
| 07:01.19 | durcyn | the downloader's on wotlkwiki |
| 07:01.22 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, EVERYONE! |
| 07:01.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: which link? |
| 07:01.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Ackis: your myuttercraplollookatme.com link? |
| 07:02.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Or my patch mirror link? |
| 07:02.17 | Thunder_Child | www.scytheblade1madeafunny.com |
| 07:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | My head hurts, so sue me :P |
| 07:02.53 | Thunder_Child | ~sue ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:02.54 | purl | ACTION acting on orders from an unspecified client, drags ScytheBlade1 into court suing for $200 million |
| 07:03.14 | Thunder_Child | does the blizzard downloader have a cap? |
| 07:03.42 | Anaral | Hmm, why did it take my mage less than five minutes to transfer but my warlock has been in 'pending' status for about 8 hours. |
| 07:03.54 | Thunder_Child | mages > warlocks |
| 07:04.03 | Anaral | Well obviously |
| 07:04.09 | Ackis | patch mirror |
| 07:05.24 | Anaral | Oh well, I'll worry about in the morning. Night |
| 07:07.30 | Thunder_Child | night Anaral |
| 07:07.42 | ScytheBlade1 | You're welcome to link whomever you please, provided they don't go posting it on high-traffic sites |
| 07:08.11 | Nom- | sif patch mirror |
| 07:08.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got 200GB of transfer month and while I commonly don't even use 10GB of that, it's amazingly easy to go spirialing out of control |
| 07:08.20 | Nom- | i'm using the blizz downloader, already at 72% |
| 07:08.53 | Thunder_Child | using the blizz downloader will take me less than an hour |
| 07:09.49 | Nom- | the one thing that pleased me about DK was that you can skip *all* of azeroth and go direct to outland |
| 07:10.00 | Nom- | :D |
| 07:10.16 | Thunder_Child | dont you need 3 lvl's in az? |
| 07:10.34 | Nom- | you start at level 55... i was level 57.95 by the time i finished all the quests |
| 07:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080908_004650.jpg <-- most epic achievement ever |
| 07:10.43 | Nom- | i just killed a few mobs, ding, then ran for dark portal |
| 07:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | (at the bottom) |
| 07:11.11 | Thunder_Child | i was just at the begining of 56 when i finnished all of the quests |
| 07:11.32 | Nom- | LOL |
| 07:11.33 | Nom- | NYI :P |
| 07:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | "(if ever)" |
| 07:12.07 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: You must has missed some then.. seriously... i was basically 58 when i finished |
| 07:12.13 | Nom- | or maybe they changed it up a bit |
| 07:12.25 | Thunder_Child | they changed it quite a bit |
| 07:12.34 | Xinhuan | ooh yeah, crazy mods contest submit period is over! |
| 07:13.04 | Xinhuan | only about 60 entries ;p |
| 07:13.37 | Nom- | lol @ max distance before dieing |
| 07:13.42 | Nom- | how easy is that for a druid to do |
| 07:13.57 | Nom- | flight form from the top of the world... switch to flight form before hitting ground |
| 07:13.59 | Nom- | pallies too |
| 07:14.04 | Thunder_Child | mages |
| 07:14.12 | Nom- | yeah slow fall |
| 07:14.14 | Nom- | priests too then |
| 07:14.16 | Thunder_Child | or blink |
| 07:14.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Blink won't, it counts as a teleport |
| 07:14.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You fall X yards but never hit the ground, you teleport isntead |
| 07:14.39 | Xinhuan | kinda tricky to find a place that is "very low" in the world |
| 07:14.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Iceblock/Slow Fall works fine though |
| 07:14.42 | Xinhuan | some rock |
| 07:14.54 | Nom- | outland... |
| 07:15.11 | Xinhuan | fly around and find the lowest rock in the air ;p |
| 07:15.12 | Nom- | fly to top of the world.. it takes a little under 12 seconds to fall from the top of shattrath into the middle room |
| 07:15.23 | Xinhuan | yeah but shatt isn't the lowest point in the world |
| 07:15.34 | Nom- | I've timed it with bubble just expiring as i hit the ground, and i survived :P |
| 07:16.58 | Aiiane | oh god |
| 07:17.06 | Aiiane | its been so long since I saw the default UI |
| 07:17.16 | Nom- | I know.. it's so painful |
| 07:17.22 | Nom- | I can't find any bar mods that work :( |
| 07:17.23 | Thunder_Child | get used to it in beta |
| 07:17.32 | Aiiane | also... WoWI guild invite, Lich King Horde US? |
| 07:17.40 | Nom- | I might have to hack Bartender into submission at some point |
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| 07:19.36 | Thunder_Child | in russia, bartender hacks you |
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| 07:20.04 | Mooninaut_ | I read that there's a SVN version of Bartender 4 that works |
| 07:20.50 | Mooninaut_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765608922&sid=2000 |
| 07:20.58 | Aiiane | what's the name of the addon author guild on Lich King horde? |
| 07:21.09 | Thunder_Child | secure templars |
| 07:21.19 | Aiiane | bah, noone on atm |
| 07:21.28 | Thunder_Child | oh, horde i dont know |
| 07:21.33 | Thunder_Child | thats alliance |
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| 07:21.56 | Nom- | sweet |
| 07:22.05 | Nom- | know if there's a working SCT ? |
| 07:22.06 | MentalPower | US PvE (Northrend server) |
| 07:22.08 | MentalPower | Alliance: <Secure Templars> |
| 07:22.09 | MentalPower | Horde: <WTB API PST> |
| 07:22.17 | Mooninaut_ | those are on Northrend I think |
| 07:22.28 | Aiiane | yes, they are :P |
| 07:22.38 | MentalPower | err... yes |
| 07:22.44 | Mooninaut_ | guess you'll have to start one on Lich King |
| 07:22.54 | Arrowmaster | so i just saw a 51 BM hunter with a silithid pet |
| 07:23.02 | Mooninaut_ | O_O |
| 07:23.05 | Arrowmaster | thats deffently getting nerfed before live |
| 07:23.26 | Arrowmaster | since its not a beast and cannot be sheeped or fear beast'd |
| 07:23.32 | Arrowmaster | or slept |
| 07:24.00 | Nom- | heh... i shall try to find someone in the 'WTB API PST' guild when i get back into server :P |
| 07:24.33 | Mooninaut | I wonder if hydras are tameable too |
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| 07:25.01 | Aiiane | so um |
| 07:25.09 | Aiiane | my Cenarion War Hippogryph |
| 07:25.16 | Aiiane | definitely summons an Elekk ground mount |
| 07:25.17 | Aiiane | ... |
| 07:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Aiiane: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765639627&sid=2000 |
| 07:26.29 | Aiiane | cute |
| 07:26.41 | Aiiane | well, im now a blood elf with an elekk :D |
| 07:27.08 | Nom- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:27.12 | Nom- | OMG GNOME ON A KODO |
| 07:27.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ^^ |
| 07:27.27 | Aiiane | lets see |
| 07:27.34 | Aiiane | hopefully i still have my windrider in the bank |
| 07:28.03 | Aiiane | i do, phew |
| 07:28.43 | Nom- | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_080808_194831.jpg <-- that's epic |
| 07:29.13 | Xinhuan | i hope they fixed my mount |
| 07:29.15 | Xinhuan | in this build |
| 07:29.45 | Duman | sbo hax |
| 07:30.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I sure do |
| 07:33.28 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 07:33.34 | cladhaire | i'm about to cancel my us wow account |
| 07:33.35 | cladhaire | sad face =( |
| 07:33.48 | Xinhuan | o_O? |
| 07:33.55 | Cairenn | :( |
| 07:33.59 | cladhaire | I can't justify paying for both US and EU |
| 07:34.02 | cladhaire | too expensive |
| 07:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 07:34.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't blame you for that |
| 07:34.10 | cladhaire | considering I only use my EU one cause of the time difference |
| 07:34.24 | cladhaire | and on that not, I'm gonna be 70 in a few weeks, and need some arena teams :P |
| 07:35.14 | Fisker- | I WIN |
| 07:35.16 | Fisker- | I AM LEVEL 80! |
| 07:35.33 | cladhaire | gz your face |
| 07:35.51 | Fisker- | http://i33.tinypic.com/2pt7y40.jpg <-no u |
| 07:36.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: I'm sitting at 1750 achievement points ^^ |
| 07:36.55 | Fisker- | are you a death knight? |
| 07:37.09 | ScytheBlade1 | .... yes! |
| 07:37.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes I am |
| 07:37.23 | Fisker- | no |
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| 07:37.32 | Fisker- | but good thing that you're leaving |
| 07:37.36 | Fisker- | then i won't ask you to shut up |
| 07:37.36 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 07:40.29 | leethal | meh, groking COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED is tedious. FInally, after 30 minutes of chain-tapping a mob, I got a resist \o/ |
| 07:42.10 | Nom- | haha |
| 07:42.22 | Nom- | there's a tauren in thrallmar with fluoro green hair |
| 07:42.38 | Nom- | looks like they missed some art assets from the patch |
| 07:43.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "a" tauren? |
| 07:44.28 | Nom- | oo they changed haart strike |
| 07:44.56 | Nom- | Heart Strike now makes the target unable to benefit from haste effects for 10 seconds. |
| 07:44.56 | Nom- | Instead of reducing max health by 20% |
| 07:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 07:45.01 | NightHawkTheSane | it's also instant |
| 07:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | not on-next-attack |
| 07:45.15 | NightHawkTheSane | it's basically blood strike replacement |
| 07:45.30 | Mooninaut | there's a tauren in orgrimmar on a flying mount |
| 07:45.39 | cladhaire | NightHawkTheSane: aye, its very nice,. |
| 07:45.40 | Nom- | oh wow... DK trees are heaps different |
| 07:45.43 | Nom- | i now have an invalid spec |
| 07:45.48 | cladhaire | heh |
| 07:45.50 | Nom- | i only have 2 points in tier 1 |
| 07:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: the word you're looking for is "rediculously overpowered" ;) |
| 07:46.00 | cladhaire | in alpha, DK's lost their talent points every single time they zones |
| 07:46.10 | cladhaire | the only way to get em back was to zone three times |
| 07:46.13 | Rabbitbunny | lol |
| 07:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | haha, nice |
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| 07:49.20 | Nom- | wow death strike now gives 100% chance to cause death runes |
| 07:49.33 | NightHawkTheSane | and death runes dont fade.. or at least not quickly |
| 07:50.42 | Mooninaut | hmm, hydras are Beast class now, but still not tameable |
| 07:51.05 | Thunder_Child | todays xkcd is massive pun fail |
| 07:52.12 | wereHamster | does anyone have a ffffound account and can invite me? |
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| 07:55.23 | leethal | what's a sensible way of doing this? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93385 |
| 07:55.43 | Thunder_Child | having someone else do it for you |
| 07:56.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: i think he has that part down. ;) |
| 07:56.28 | leethal | doing an OnUpdate on the alert_frame perhaps? |
| 07:57.17 | Thunder_Child | *sigh*, dont things ask anymore. the blizzards updater applies the update with out asking. fail |
| 07:59.26 | Aiiane | so... warlocks who have been in beta for more than the 10 minutes I have |
| 07:59.27 | Thunder_Child | and then it launches wow with out asking |
| 07:59.30 | Aiiane | affliction or demo for leveling |
| 08:00.04 | Thunder_Child | and there seems to be a new fail dragon on the signin screen |
| 08:00.40 | cladhaire | Thunder_Child: Blizzard has always done that.. Diablo installs the update and relaunches, etc. |
| 08:00.57 | Thunder_Child | i know, but i complain every time |
| 08:01.09 | Thunder_Child | because it wouldnt take much to offer the option |
| 08:01.22 | cladhaire | and then stupid people would screw it up :P |
| 08:01.36 | cladhaire | i kid :P |
| 08:01.45 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 08:03.38 | Iriel | Updated secure headers document available: http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/doc/secheaders/SecureHeadersGuide%20-%20draft2.pdf |
| 08:05.42 | Mooninaut | ooh, nice |
| 08:06.30 | Xinhuan | well considering you can't play the game without it being updated |
| 08:06.32 | Xinhuan | why would it matter |
| 08:07.00 | cladhaire | I was wondering the same :P |
| 08:07.29 | Thunder_Child | because maybe i dont want it to do it right now. the installer takes quite a bit of system resources, if i am playing a game while it downloads then once it's done it messes up the game |
| 08:07.45 | Thunder_Child | s/messes up/ slows down/ |
| 08:15.16 | Mery | wow is the _only_ game you are allowed to play... |
| 08:18.24 | Thunder_Child | ya........no |
| 08:18.34 | Mooninaut | secure state headers still confuse me |
| 08:18.59 | wereHamster | wtf? fatal: Out of memory, malloc failed. The first time I see an application abort because of OOM |
| 08:19.11 | Thunder_Child | Iriel only feels good if his work confuses people |
| 08:19.34 | Iriel | that's so not true |
| 08:19.41 | Tekkub | that so is |
| 08:20.10 | Tekkub | Iriel, WTB doublewide tradeskill |
| 08:20.46 | Iriel | Tekkub: Hm, now there's only one tradeskill UI I suppose that's more rational a request 8-) |
| 08:21.02 | Tekkub | my thoughs exactly :) |
| 08:21.03 | Iriel | Though it may be far uglier than the quest log because I can taint the tradeskill stuff |
| 08:21.20 | Tekkub | true... stupid tradskill crap |
| 08:21.25 | Iriel | though I suppose now's the time to unearth reasons why I can't do it and harass blizz to fix it |
| 08:21.37 | Thunder_Child | if anyone can get around tainting it Iriel, it's you |
| 08:21.43 | Tekkub | yea, since you CAN harass them |
| 08:21.49 | Iriel | Speaking of updates, there's a 3.0 friendly DevTools on wowi now (except for chatevents) |
| 08:22.09 | Tekkub | speaking of DevTools, I need to pack and push Spew |
| 08:22.13 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: does blizz know about the LoD optdep issue and plan to fix it? |
| 08:22.26 | Tekkub | optdep issue? |
| 08:22.33 | Arrowmaster | dep/optdep |
| 08:22.42 | Iriel | I reported it with details and your test code,, so I would hope so. |
| 08:22.55 | Arrowmaster | ok cool, just checking |
| 08:23.12 | Mery | i was just reading it without special attention, so forgive me my probably stupid question: beeing able to execute code OnUpdate, can't you get around the limitation of castsequence to use a special spell again after its cooldown is up? |
| 08:23.22 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: lod addons that are dep/optdep of other addons arent being loaded automaticly with the other addons |
| 08:23.39 | Tekkub | ahso |
| 08:23.43 | Iriel | Mery: The code can't actually perfom actions (None of the cast/use/whatever functions are in the restricted environment) |
| 08:23.48 | cladhaire | 8714 -> 8770 patch diff: http://patchdiff.pastey.net/93386 |
| 08:23.50 | Iriel | Mery: It can just alter frames |
| 08:23.50 | Arrowmaster | thats the red addons |
| 08:24.02 | Mery | yeah but i could change the keybinging? |
| 08:24.15 | Tekkub | clad, already on github :P |
| 08:24.18 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: Oh, actually i'm not sure I did report THAT, but I bet its related to the other problem |
| 08:24.32 | cladhaire | Tekkub: yes.. and this has nothing to do with that |
| 08:24.38 | cladhaire | why don't people read instead of being twats |
| 08:24.47 | cladhaire | when I say "patch diff" |
| 08:24.49 | Iriel | Mery: Oh, i see what you mean, yes, you can do that today tho.. |
| 08:24.52 | cladhaire | its not a simple compare of the FrameXML |
| 08:25.11 | cladhaire | its a full diff of the events, CVars and functions that have changed between the two versions of the client |
| 08:25.32 | Tekkub | :P |
| 08:25.41 | Tekkub | I"ll twat you, and you'll enjoy it |
| 08:25.50 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: yeah it might be, ive only got a few addons on beta right now but i had to resort to a !!!Libs addon with a .lua that called LoadAddOn() on the few libraries i have so i could get other stuff to work |
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| 08:38.30 | Mooninaut | in DevTools, The "Select Events" frame throws up an error when I try to scroll it: "Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua: 230: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value) |
| 08:39.42 | Iriel | Oh.. |
| 08:39.44 | Iriel | hm. |
| 08:40.06 | nevcairiel | look at the stack trace and fix the missing self in the call :) |
| 08:42.15 | Thunder_Child | ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
| 08:42.28 | nevcairiel | what now? o.O |
| 08:43.04 | Thunder_Child | what? i was just laughing at something |
| 08:43.45 | MoonWolf | disturbingly |
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| 08:46.03 | Fisker- | i hate you nevcairiel |
| 08:46.11 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 08:46.37 | haste | Fisker-: what char are you playing on beta? |
| 08:47.12 | Iriel | Ok, let me upload a fixed devtools |
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| 08:49.15 | Iriel | Uploaded |
| 08:49.17 | Iriel | 1.11 |
| 08:49.40 | Rabbitbunny | what's devtools? |
| 08:49.58 | Mery | ~devtools |
| 08:49.58 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 08:50.24 | Rabbitbunny | thanks |
| 08:51.32 | Thunder_Child | yes...why isnt it in the default client yet. Iriel, start proding |
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| 08:53.37 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I'll concentrate on code that has to be secure first 8-) |
| 08:54.00 | nevcairiel | i like that plan |
| 08:54.13 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 08:54.31 | Iriel | and before even that,... sleep! |
| 08:54.57 | Thunder_Child | -_- x2 |
| 09:04.24 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm, that was stupid. I just set Notepad++ of an a find in ..Addons/ with *.* as a filter... I have 149 folders in there... |
| 09:05.14 | Mooninaut | at least it was just a search and not a search and replace |
| 09:05.41 | Rabbitbunny | well, small favors at least. And it'll definatly find it. |
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| 09:08.14 | p3lim | party member frames has aggro icons now, little diamond on each party member frame, indicating how much aggro they have (red = 100%, yellow/orange = 70% and hidden = less than 70%) |
| 09:08.20 | p3lim | is this a new feature this last build? |
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| 09:11.22 | p3lim | I have screenshots if you want |
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| 09:19.34 | Mooninaut | yeah it's new |
| 09:21.28 | haste | more info on the forums afaik |
| 09:23.13 | Rabbitbunny | What's a pretty way to ask 'A or B' with only a short line and a checkbox? |
| 09:24.10 | Rabbitbunny | i think 'A: [x]' would be a little goofy without mentioning B... |
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| 09:25.24 | haste | use a radio button like on the mail frame? |
| 09:26.15 | Rabbitbunny | o0o0o... now to learn how to make those... Thanks. |
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| 09:27.12 | Neckcn | bahh.. sorry |
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| 09:40.50 | p3lim | Funkeh`: ping |
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| 09:51.12 | Vangual | anyone found the api call to leave a vehicle? stuck on a passenger seat of a siege weapon |
| 09:54.17 | Pneumatus | log out and back in again |
| 09:55.43 | zenzelezz | "Deep wounds is now tier 3, with impale pre-requisite. Deals 48% damage over 6 seconds now instead of 60% over 12 seconds" -- in other words, it's now "Not quite as Deep Wounds" |
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| 09:57.07 | Pneumatus | perhaps it should be renamed to "Light Scratches" |
| 09:57.50 | Vangual | Pneumatus: thanks, that helped :) |
| 09:58.15 | Pneumatus | vehicle UI bugs repeatedly, and ive not found a ui command... i always just relog anyway :) |
| 09:58.35 | Pneumatus | there probably is an api command, but i've not found it :) |
| 09:59.38 | Vangual | in the previous build i had relogged and stayed within the vehicle mode when logging back on so I didn't think of that here |
| 09:59.57 | Pneumatus | wahey, my ring that that a "Use" action now just has it as Equip! |
| 10:00.03 | Vangual | had weird sideeffects logging into vehicle mode aswell |
| 10:00.48 | Pneumatus | yeh, sometimes the vehicle UI doesnt flip over properly, leaving your normal bars active without being able to see the siege vehicle actions |
| 10:00.59 | Pneumatus | but you can still CTRL+Num to use the actions |
| 10:03.31 | p3lim | Great, Ingvar the Plunderer is bugged :/ |
| 10:03.49 | Pneumatus | did they actually fix anything? |
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| 10:05.54 | Zizanzu | How can my addon became a part of Cosmosui? |
| 10:05.54 | Pneumatus | wow, Abracadabra has been fixed, what a step forward |
| 10:06.14 | Zizanzu | (Working for Triviabot) |
| 10:06.26 | Zizanzu | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/trivia-bot |
| 10:07.23 | Pneumatus | oh, dalaran has a map. thats always a bonus |
| 10:08.35 | Zizanzu | hmmmm.... ? |
| 10:09.44 | Fisker- | Zizanzu i hate you! |
| 10:09.52 | Pneumatus | quoting dis |
| 10:09.57 | Fisker- | :P |
| 10:10.00 | Zizanzu | huh? |
| 10:10.02 | Zizanzu | why? |
| 10:10.19 | Fisker- | you made trivia bot ;_; |
| 10:10.29 | Zizanzu | No Guri did |
| 10:10.31 | Fisker- | meh |
| 10:10.34 | Fisker- | you are affiliated |
| 10:10.35 | Fisker- | :P |
| 10:10.39 | Zizanzu | lol |
| 10:10.46 | Zizanzu | You thinking about the Spamm? |
| 10:11.25 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:11.26 | Zizanzu | (Working With a Join-Game solution so people who has not joined the game dont get this triviabot text.) |
| 10:11.44 | nevcairiel | Anyone else having some weird UI gfx glitches since the latest beta patch? |
| 10:12.00 | Zizanzu | Fisker how can Triviabot become a part of Cosmosui? |
| 10:12.02 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: ive had a few graphics glitches |
| 10:12.03 | Fisker- | depends on what weird ui gfx glithces you talk about :P |
| 10:12.09 | Fisker- | i don't know Zizanzu :P |
| 10:12.11 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/383cd52fc8d5d08bca3677c7b0fd70ac.jpg |
| 10:12.16 | nevcairiel | my UI keeps flickering like that |
| 10:12.35 | Zizanzu | ok Fisker :D |
| 10:12.42 | Fisker- | looks like graphical corruption nevcairiel |
| 10:12.58 | nevcairiel | only affects UI elements, though |
| 10:13.06 | Mery | nevcairiel: i had that when i messed with models on live |
| 10:13.06 | Zizanzu | Fisker: Downlaod Triviabot killer |
| 10:13.11 | Zizanzu | Download* |
| 10:13.40 | Slakah1 | Hmm my beta key got flagged as spam :P |
| 10:14.50 | p3lim | hm EU world server down |
| 10:15.26 | nevcairiel | apparently some other people have that issues too |
| 10:15.31 | nevcairiel | according to bug forums |
| 10:15.37 | p3lim | nevcairiel: looks like its your UF textures |
| 10:15.48 | p3lim | or gfx card drivers |
| 10:15.49 | nevcairiel | its all UI textures |
| 10:17.08 | nevcairiel | happens with all addons off too |
| 10:17.57 | p3lim | New DK Runes textures in latest build |
| 10:18.29 | p3lim | and an additional talent point, lol |
| 10:19.09 | p3lim | hm.. I have the 51pointer in blood, but i have only 50 points there |
| 10:19.31 | Pneumatus | low level quest tracking is in then |
| 10:20.33 | nevcairiel | hm that gfx glitch disappears if i alt-tab once |
| 10:21.03 | amro | nevcairiel: windows? |
| 10:21.09 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:21.43 | Pneumatus | is that windowed/not windowed? |
| 10:21.47 | amro | nevcairiel: I usd to get destroyed textures and other crap when tabbing out in windows in d3d mode, it's a d3d thing |
| 10:21.54 | amro | id bet fullscreen Pneumatus |
| 10:22.03 | nevcairiel | fullscreen, yes |
| 10:22.08 | Pneumatus | maybe try fullscreen windowed? |
| 10:22.14 | nevcairiel | its damn slow =P |
| 10:22.31 | nevcairiel | i've never seen it before |
| 10:22.46 | amro | nevcairiel: try with -opengl to be sure, i suspect d3d context crap |
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| 10:24.05 | nevcairiel | haha tauren have green fur |
| 10:24.11 | Pneumatus | they fixed 1 of the 2 bugged quests i've got at least |
| 10:24.56 | zenzelezz | does this happen in windows mode nevcairiel? Direct3D does some sort of fancy "surface rebuilding" when a full-screen window regains focus |
| 10:25.00 | zenzelezz | *windowed |
| 10:25.19 | nevcairiel | didnt try windowed mode |
| 10:25.27 | nevcairiel | but apparently doesnt happen in opengl either |
| 10:26.25 | nevcairiel | except that opengl produces alot of other issues |
| 10:26.28 | nevcairiel | with shadows et al |
| 10:27.08 | nevcairiel | and i get interface lag with opengl o.O |
| 10:27.27 | Fisker- | omfg |
| 10:27.28 | Fisker- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBlJaPD-CCQ |
| 10:27.44 | Xuerian | What's the console command to restart the gfx engine |
| 10:28.01 | Fisker- | gxrestart |
| 10:29.45 | amro | nevcairiel: I get 20fps less on ogl vs d3d |
| 10:29.47 | amro | its slow on windows |
| 10:30.37 | haste | try the uifaster stuff |
| 10:30.53 | nevcairiel | i already tried all uifaster settings |
| 10:30.55 | nevcairiel | was my first though |
| 10:30.57 | p3lim | haste: does oBindings work with Wrath Beta? |
| 10:30.57 | nevcairiel | +t |
| 10:31.19 | haste | yes p3lim |
| 10:31.26 | p3lim | nice |
| 10:32.18 | haste | how else would I care to play at all :p |
| 10:32.29 | p3lim | lol? :p |
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| 10:33.47 | Pneumatus | im getting graphics glitches all the time now |
| 10:34.20 | haste | sounds like a hardware issue then |
| 10:35.45 | Pneumatus | ive just switched shadows off and its not glitching now |
| 10:35.59 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: try switching shadows off |
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| 10:36.48 | nevcairiel | i did that too now |
| 10:37.15 | haste | aret' it ui glitches nevcairiel ? |
| 10:37.53 | Pneumatus | hmm, shadows hasnt helped |
| 10:37.58 | Pneumatus | it seems to be related to being in combat |
| 10:38.12 | nevcairiel | haste: something in between, dunno what makes the renderer screw up |
| 10:39.13 | haste | nevcairiel: if it's only the 2d world, try changing uifaster, 3 is default |
| 10:39.25 | nevcairiel | haste: already tried all settings of it |
| 10:39.42 | haste | then you have an issue :p |
| 10:40.02 | nevcairiel | so do alot of other people on the forums |
| 10:40.29 | p3lim | i need a proper print function alike the one in Ace3 |
| 10:40.58 | haste | define proper |
| 10:43.50 | nevcairiel | oh they finally changed maps to be explorable |
| 10:44.53 | Fisker- | you can't explore it i believe :o |
| 10:45.26 | nevcairiel | well at least it doesnt show the full map anymore |
| 10:47.35 | p3lim | anyone know a bug trace addon that works with beta? |
| 10:47.45 | p3lim | (BugSack or something, no idea if it still works) |
| 10:48.04 | Pneumatus | bugsack+!buggrabber work |
| 10:49.27 | p3lim | ok |
| 10:51.02 | p3lim | BugSack is dead |
| 10:51.55 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 10:52.26 | p3lim | well it is for me, just tested it |
| 10:52.26 | Arrowmaster | install it with embeds, and install the Ace2 WotLK branch |
| 10:52.34 | Arrowmaster | ive been using it all night |
| 10:52.51 | Pneumatus | yeh, have it working fine here also |
| 10:54.08 | p3lim | hm |
| 10:54.30 | p3lim | why is it still using ace2 btw? |
| 10:54.40 | Arrowmaster | because nobodys updated it yet |
| 10:55.04 | Arrowmaster | !BugGrabber doesnt use ace at all |
| 10:55.13 | Arrowmaster | and will work without BugSack |
| 10:55.22 | Arrowmaster | but its not as pretty then |
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| 11:00.18 | p3lim | does OnClick scrips have arguments? |
| 11:00.54 | Slakah1 | the frame which was clicked and the button which clicked it. |
| 11:01.37 | Slakah1 | p3lim: http://www.wowwiki.com/UIHANDLER_OnClick |
| 11:01.56 | p3lim | thanks |
| 11:02.41 | Arrowmaster | OnClick(self, button, down) |
| 11:02.48 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Button |
| 11:02.57 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts/OnClick |
| 11:03.05 | Mera | its on fish.wowace.com arrowmaster ace2 wotlk branch? |
| 11:03.30 | Arrowmaster | fish doesnt have zips i dont think |
| 11:03.55 | Mera | where do you take it |
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| 11:11.52 | p3lim | hm it doesnt register the button |
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| 11:36.50 | p3lim | how do I access a HighlightTexture with no name? |
| 11:37.11 | nevcairiel | :GetHighlightTexture |
| 11:37.16 | p3lim | ah.. |
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| 11:43.00 | p3lim | and i guess a :SetHighlightTexture is there aswell? |
| 11:48.55 | Rabbitbunny | lua> for a=-2, 4 do if a==-1 then next end print(a) end |
| 11:48.55 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'end' |
| 11:49.51 | Rabbitbunny | I'm expecting '-2, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4' as output... |
| 11:50.36 | Rabbitbunny | s/../.. Hints?/ |
| 11:50.38 | nevcairiel | there is no "next" in lua |
| 11:50.46 | Rabbitbunny | seriously? |
| 11:51.07 | Rabbitbunny | Um, that kinda sucks. |
| 11:51.07 | nevcairiel | firstoff, in all languages i know it would be "continue", but that doesnt exist in lua |
| 11:52.09 | nevcairiel | you have to use the if a bit more ,) |
| 11:52.35 | Rabbitbunny | lua> for a=-2, 4 do if a~=-1 then print(a) end end |
| 11:52.35 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: -2, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 |
| 11:53.00 | Rabbitbunny | Wow. |
| 11:53.17 | Rabbitbunny | Thanks. |
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| 12:15.15 | p3lim | *sigh* |
| 12:16.20 | p3lim | Coldarra Northrend down again |
| 12:20.30 | haste | haha, using the death gate was probably not the smartest action now |
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| 12:23.38 | Funkeh` | p3lim, pong |
| 12:24.10 | p3lim | Funkeh`: wtb ginvite |
| 12:24.40 | Funkeh` | oh I just came on |
| 12:24.44 | Funkeh` | downloading 500meg patch |
| 12:24.50 | Funkeh` | anyone in the guild can invite |
| 12:26.43 | p3lim | hm i asked a random, said noone could invite |
| 12:26.50 | p3lim | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=12500.0 |
| 12:27.13 | Funkeh` | they should |
| 12:27.19 | Funkeh` | I tested it yeterday |
| 12:27.41 | Funkeh` | anyway brb got bacon cooking whilst this patch goes |
| 12:27.45 | Funkeh` | 5% urg |
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| 12:36.10 | Lunessa | ... station. |
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| 12:40.39 | laeg | blizzard need to start banning people who intentionally lose in battlegrounds |
| 12:41.22 | cncfanatics | how do I mouseover cast the vial of the sunwell ? |
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| 12:43.14 | Pneumatus | maybe /use [target=mouseover] Vial of the Sunwell? |
| 12:44.23 | cncfanatics | hmmm, seems to work inside the macro |
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| 12:44.28 | cncfanatics | but my buttonmod can't modify its target |
| 12:44.36 | cncfanatics | guess its cuz its macrod |
| 12:45.00 | nevcairiel | you cannot change the target of a macro using the unit |
| 12:45.10 | nevcairiel | +attribute |
| 12:47.58 | cncfanatics | heh, tnx for the info |
| 12:49.56 | Fisker- | lol |
| 12:50.02 | Fisker- | my paladin has a passive unholy aura buff |
| 12:50.25 | Fisker- | i guess we're evil after all :( |
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| 12:54.08 | Beladona | yay they changed the logon screen again |
| 12:59.12 | cncfanatics | the dragon on the logon screen is damn cool |
| 12:59.58 | nevcairiel | needs better gfx |
| 13:02.54 | Lunessa | EVIL |
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| 13:21.15 | |pez| | Goood mo...afternoon. :p |
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| 13:22.20 | ckknight | ~ugt |
| 13:22.20 | purl | rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 13:22.27 | Kirkburn | daaaamn yoooou |
| 13:22.30 | ckknight | lol |
| 13:23.11 | Kirkburn | <purl> Someone already said that 1 seconds ago ... :/ |
| 13:23.30 | |pez| | Good Morning it is then! |
| 13:23.35 | Kirkburn | I wonder what the rate limit is |
| 13:23.46 | ckknight | 10 seconds |
| 13:24.00 | Kalroth | afternoon pez! |
| 13:25.54 | |pez| | How are we all this lovely morning? |
| 13:26.39 | Beladona | http://wowcompares.com/3018770 is done |
| 13:26.44 | Lunessa | It's ALWAYS morning. |
| 13:26.45 | ckknight | I'm quite swell, |pez| |
| 13:27.13 | Lunessa | I have this to say about last night's beta build - "Track Low Level Quests" Bitches! WOOT. |
| 13:27.32 | Beladona | huh? |
| 13:27.37 | Rabbitbunny | ?! not it'll track every quest? |
| 13:27.50 | Lunessa | On the tracking menu it will track quests you've leveled pass. |
| 13:27.59 | Kirkburn | (plus the normal ones, I'm sure) |
| 13:28.04 | Rabbitbunny | Awesome. |
| 13:28.12 | Beladona | it didn't before? |
| 13:28.16 | Lunessa | It puts "!" over the heads of NPCs and puts them on your mini map. |
| 13:28.24 | Beladona | oh |
| 13:28.25 | Kirkburn | Beladona, grey quests wouldn't show up |
| 13:28.50 | Lunessa | I was running around Stormwind boggling at all the quests I'd managed to miss on my shaman. |
| 13:29.00 | Beladona | I thought you meant then quest tracking frame |
| 13:29.02 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 13:29.05 | Beladona | I get it |
| 13:29.21 | Beladona | yeah there are going to be tons on shamans |
| 13:29.34 | Beladona | well, alliance shamans |
| 13:29.38 | Lunessa | It's a feature people have been asking for a lot, and ... well... Blizzard is actually paying attention. |
| 13:30.20 | cncfanatics | ofc they are |
| 13:30.29 | Lunessa | Yeah - I've been playing since the last 3 weeks of the original open beta. I've done newbie alliance quests more than I ever want to think about, so I skipped lots of in my shaman. |
| 13:31.09 | cncfanatics | never played ally |
| 13:31.11 | cncfanatics | horde ftw |
| 13:31.59 | Beladona | yeah I rushed to level on mine too |
| 13:33.34 | Lunessa | Beladona: My guild was not happy with me when TBC came out because I went from being the only healing priest to playing an enhancement shaman. I was under unimaginable social pressure to level and go back to playing the priest. |
| 13:34.00 | Beladona | the opposite was true for me |
| 13:34.11 | Beladona | I went from a warrior to a resto shaman (enhancement for levelling) |
| 13:35.03 | Lunessa | I'm still enhancement. It's my favorite shaman play-style. Though in beta I'm leveling 2 shaman, and on live I have a lower-level shaman leveling as elemental. |
| 13:35.15 | Beladona | I might get out of teh raiding scene in WotLK though |
| 13:35.27 | Beladona | get back to the basic fun of wow |
| 13:35.42 | Lunessa | My guild is going to reform for WtoLK and focus on 10-man content. |
| 13:36.02 | Beladona | I dont know what we will do. It depends on what most people want to do |
| 13:36.41 | Lunessa | Avoid the social challenges of trying to field consistent raiding teams. We failed at in in Classic, and again in TBC. But we could handle 10-man stuff pretty well. |
| 13:36.59 | Beladona | we are very efficient at 25 mans is the thing |
| 13:37.21 | Beladona | we have the most shamans of any of the top 15 guilds on the server |
| 13:37.34 | Beladona | all the other guilds make jokes about how all the resto shamans come to us |
| 13:37.39 | |pez| | top 15 guilds... that sounds like lots. :P |
| 13:37.49 | |pez| | I've only noticed like... top 5 guilds. |
| 13:37.50 | Beladona | our server is pretty progressed |
| 13:37.59 | Beladona | top 8 are in sunwell I believe |
| 13:38.14 | Beladona | mine is #13 and we are on Illidan |
| 13:38.36 | |pez| | I don't really pay attention to what other guilds do. |
| 13:38.46 | |pez| | I probably should. |
| 13:38.48 | Beladona | we only do because we are trying to progress |
| 13:38.49 | Lunessa | My guild mowed down Kara a lot. does that count? |
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| 13:39.45 | |pez| | I'm the only person in my guild at the moment! |
| 13:39.49 | Dark_Elf | "LibWombat\\LibWombat.lua:52: unfinished long comment near '<eof>' |
| 13:40.40 | Lunessa | There's a Wombat Lib? Seriously? Needs more Wombat. And Badgers. |
| 13:40.48 | Beladona | yeah that one is mine |
| 13:40.56 | |pez| | I really want to be the guild leader again... >__> The boyfriend needs to get his butt online in WoW. |
| 13:41.39 | foxlit | is that even a good idea? |
| 13:42.19 | Lunessa | His butt can play WoW? Film that for YouTube. |
| 13:42.56 | foxlit | :41 ,unpack({...})); |
| 13:44.17 | foxlit | That single argument just killed _any_ performance benefits you might have claimed :) |
| 13:45.01 | Beladona | Dark_Elf: fixd |
| 13:45.32 | Dark_Elf | thanks |
| 13:45.38 | Beladona | foxlit got a better solution for variable returns? |
| 13:45.51 | foxlit | Yes |
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| 13:45.56 | foxlit | It's "..." |
| 13:45.59 | nevcairiel | unpack({...}) == ... |
| 13:46.00 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 13:46.18 | Beladona | last time I did that I was having issues, but I can't remember why |
| 13:47.41 | Legorol | lua> unpack({}) |
| 13:47.41 | lua_bot | Legorol: No output |
| 13:47.51 | Legorol | lua> print(type(unpack({}))) |
| 13:47.51 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'type' (value expected) |
| 13:48.01 | foxlit | It'll shorten to (...) if you include anything after it. |
| 13:48.08 | Legorol | so unpack({...}) should be the same as ... |
| 13:48.17 | foxlit | but so will unpack |
| 13:48.31 | cladhaire | well not necessarily |
| 13:48.38 | cladhaire | {...} does not handle embedded nils properly |
| 13:48.45 | cladhaire | in particular with regards to unpack and # |
| 13:48.49 | Legorol | aha, that's it |
| 13:48.50 | nevcairiel | so {...} even screws up! |
| 13:48.51 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 13:48.57 | cladhaire | that's why i have a catch and a release function |
| 13:49.10 | cladhaire | catch converts the nils to a special nil object, and release pulls them back out as nils |
| 13:49.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 13:49.19 | Legorol | lua> print(unpack({1,nil,2,nil,3})) |
| 13:49.19 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil, 2, nil, 3 |
| 13:49.33 | nevcairiel | fake_nil = real_nil =P |
| 13:49.41 | cladhaire | lua> unpack{1,nil,2,nil} |
| 13:49.42 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 1 |
| 13:49.48 | cladhaire | lua> print(unpack{1,nil,2,nil}) |
| 13:49.49 | lua_bot | cladhaire: 1 |
| 13:49.53 | cladhaire | i.e. there's your problem. |
| 13:49.59 | Legorol | hmm |
| 13:50.01 | cladhaire | you violate the precondition of the table.* functions |
| 13:50.02 | nevcairiel | yup nil at the end kills it |
| 13:50.02 | cladhaire | you lose. |
| 13:50.12 | cladhaire | nevcairiel: not necessarily, no |
| 13:50.14 | cladhaire | its teh same problem as # |
| 13:50.21 | cladhaire | quite literally |
| 13:50.28 | nevcairiel | yeah well behaviour with embeded nils is just unpredictable |
| 13:50.30 | cladhaire | but there's almost never a need to make a table out of ... |
| 13:50.33 | Beladona | that was why |
| 13:50.34 | ckknight | local function tuple(...) local t = {...}; local n = select('#', ...); return function() return unpack(t, 1, n) end end |
| 13:50.40 | foxlit | but even without constructing a new table on every watched combat event dispatch, I don't think the callback behavior is desirable |
| 13:50.48 | Legorol | lua> t={1,nil,2,nil} print(t[1]) print(t[2]) print(t[3]) print(t[4]) |
| 13:50.48 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil, 2, nil |
| 13:51.06 | Beladona | no biggy though. this is purely meant to return you what you got. so ... should work fine |
| 13:51.17 | foxlit | "that was why" If "that" refers to discussion above, I think it's in reverse -- unpack() messes up, ... doesn't. |
| 13:51.17 | Beladona | if something is nill it should still come across |
| 13:51.22 | Legorol | so is it just unpack that's broken? |
| 13:51.33 | nevcairiel | its not broken |
| 13:51.34 | Beladona | my old function had data that I needed to get out of the variable return |
| 13:51.38 | nevcairiel | its defined to work in that way |
| 13:51.38 | cladhaire | Legorol: nothing is broken |
| 13:51.41 | Beladona | so the unpack was left over from that |
| 13:51.43 | Legorol | i'll go rtfm on unpack |
| 13:51.45 | cladhaire | and if anything is broken, its # |
| 13:51.50 | cladhaire | Legorol: its not an issue with unpack =( |
| 13:51.57 | cladhaire | its an issue with violating the precondition of "Array" tables. |
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| 13:52.03 | cladhaire | which are REQUIRED for the length operator to work |
| 13:52.06 | cladhaire | which is how unpack knows what to do |
| 13:52.11 | cladhaire | by using # |
| 13:52.11 | nevcairiel | unpack only works on array tables, and array tables require you to have no embeded nils |
| 13:52.14 | Beladona | foxlit: dont worry about it. It is gone now |
| 13:52.24 | Beladona | you can go back to eating your cheerios |
| 13:52.38 | Legorol | cladhaire: ok manual says that the expected behaviour of unpack is as if you were using # to find the end of the table |
| 13:52.44 | Legorol | so not broken indeed |
| 13:52.46 | foxlit | No, see, I'm also generally doubtful of any benefit you achieve using that design at all, ever. |
| 13:52.57 | Beladona | the dont use it? |
| 13:53.00 | Beladona | I didn't write it for you |
| 13:53.10 | foxlit | What did you write it for? :) |
| 13:53.13 | Legorol | i know how # works, i just didn't know that unpack works the same way, now i do, cool. |
| 13:53.16 | Beladona | for me, and others who do use it? |
| 13:53.21 | foxlit | The run around with hash tables and callback functions outweighs anything I can think of |
| 13:53.53 | foxlit | What do you think you're actually saving? :) |
| 13:54.07 | Beladona | I am done |
| 13:55.10 | Nom- | lol |
| 13:55.14 | Nom- | ramparts with 5 blood D's |
| 13:55.17 | Nom- | DK's |
| 13:55.18 | foxlit | Up to you, entirely :) |
| 13:55.18 | Nom- | no healer |
| 13:55.30 | Beladona | I am not going to sit here and argue about the worth of an addon |
| 13:55.34 | Beladona | it is entirely opinion |
| 13:55.58 | foxlit | It's an library, whose only claimed benefit is "performance" |
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| 13:56.10 | foxlit | If you think "performance" is an opinion, well, good luck with that :) |
| 13:56.11 | Beladona | no |
| 13:56.20 | Beladona | the purpose is to make it EASIER for people using combat log parsing |
| 13:56.45 | Beladona | with that purpose intact, it is THEN written with performance in mind |
| 13:57.05 | foxlit | so what you're implementing is an if statement on behalf of other authors :) |
| 13:57.09 | foxlit | Okay, dismissed. |
| 13:57.30 | Beladona | foxlit: you are pissing me off |
| 13:58.14 | Beladona | not every author can write that kind of thing on their own |
| 13:58.22 | Beladona | if they use the lib to elarn how to do it on their own |
| 13:58.26 | Beladona | or they just use it |
| 13:58.29 | Beladona | that is up to them |
| 13:58.33 | Beladona | I don't MAKE anyone use it |
| 13:59.06 | Beladona | its a wrapper |
| 13:59.08 | Beladona | more or less |
| 13:59.12 | Beladona | like MANY libraries out there |
| 13:59.19 | Beladona | so stop being an asshole about it |
| 13:59.22 | zenzelezz | how would this library be any different from any other library? If people like it, they use it and appreciate it, if they don't like it then they don't use it. It's nice to have the optino |
| 14:00.29 | ckknight | which library is this? |
| 14:00.39 | Slakah1 | LibWombat |
| 14:01.30 | Beladona | if you ahve constructive criticism, or suggestions for improvements / additions. Submit it on the addon page. Otherwise don't make blanket statements that suggest the addon is worthless to everyone |
| 14:01.41 | Beladona | esepcially when I know of at least one addon that uses it |
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| 14:01.44 | ckknight | what's LibWombat do? |
| 14:02.03 | Beladona | read the page? |
| 14:02.13 | ckknight | link me? |
| 14:02.47 | Beladona | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9741-LibWombat.html |
| 14:04.14 | Legorol | !google LibWombat |
| 14:04.15 | batbot | Legorol: WoWInterface: SVN - LibWombat - Rev 1 - / <http://svn.wowinterface.com/listing.php?repname=LibWombat&path=%2F&sc=0> |
| 14:04.27 | Legorol | ckknight: wouldn't that have been faster to type :P |
| 14:04.43 | ckknight | didn't realize !google existed |
| 14:04.58 | foxlit | The SVN link is mostly empty :) |
| 14:04.59 | Legorol | then alt-tab to your local favourite webbrowser |
| 14:05.18 | Dark_Elf | NaturCombat uses it, so far its not to bad |
| 14:06.25 | Legorol | foxlit: you are absolutely correct, i was trying to make a point :( |
| 14:06.47 | Beladona | its on svn now |
| 14:06.47 | Beladona | thanks |
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| 14:09.57 | Nom- | 2 bosses down... nothing but blood dk |
| 14:10.06 | zenzelezz | instance? |
| 14:10.32 | Nom- | ramparts |
| 14:10.38 | Nom- | highest is 61 :P |
| 14:10.40 | cladhaire | heh |
| 14:10.49 | cladhaire | very nice |
| 14:11.00 | ckknight | how's frost fare? |
| 14:11.01 | Beladona | has anyone here gotten a DK to Northrend yet? |
| 14:11.12 | Nom- | i've seen a few there |
| 14:11.34 | cladhaire | ckknight: they would need healers |
| 14:11.38 | cladhaire | ckknight: thats the point of doing blood |
| 14:11.46 | ckknight | hrm |
| 14:11.46 | ckknight | okay |
| 14:11.54 | cladhaire | Beladona: my alpha DK was in northrend at 68 |
| 14:11.58 | ckknight | I tried blood a while back, before they got uberbuffed |
| 14:12.29 | cladhaire | its always been the best build for grinding and grouping |
| 14:12.48 | foxlit | Unholy is quite fun |
| 14:13.01 | foxlit | Wonder if they did away with the ghoul disease, though |
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| 14:14.11 | Fisker- | i am Beladona |
| 14:14.29 | Beladona | nice, you on now? |
| 14:15.06 | Fisker- | nope |
| 14:15.41 | Beladona | nevcairiel: good work on bt4 btw |
| 14:15.42 | Quezacolt | is it just me or is there a green skinned tauren in the DK starting area? |
| 14:15.47 | Fisker- | server is pretty fucked at the moment |
| 14:15.49 | Beladona | nice to have it in beta |
| 14:15.58 | Nom- | last boss down too |
| 14:16.01 | Nom- | blood is uber |
| 14:16.17 | Beladona | anyone know of a working bag mod yet? |
| 14:16.39 | Nom- | OneBag works |
| 14:16.41 | Nom- | get the svn version |
| 14:16.44 | nevcairiel | combuctor works with a small fix |
| 14:16.45 | Anaral | If you comment out a couple of lines in Baggins, it works. |
| 14:16.48 | cladhaire | Nom-: nice :P |
| 14:16.56 | Nom- | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/OneBag/WotLK/ |
| 14:17.03 | nevcairiel | http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/addons/wotlk/ <-- some fixed up mods for wotlk |
| 14:17.16 | Beladona | nice |
| 14:17.24 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=4 - post 79 - I was going to write an AddOn to do this... And now I don't have to! |
| 14:17.45 | Vangual | baggins worked out of the box for me |
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| 14:17.58 | ckknight | so are the people here on Northrend or Lich King? |
| 14:18.07 | Lunessa | Mostly Northrend |
| 14:18.13 | Anaral | Aye |
| 14:18.16 | Beladona | I get a db error with Baggins |
| 14:18.17 | Fisker- | US ftl |
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| 14:18.26 | cladhaire | Coldara ftw! |
| 14:18.57 | leethal | I'm unable to find API docs for LibSink-2.0, where could I find that? |
| 14:19.26 | leethal | hmm, perhaps there's a separate ace channel. |
| 14:19.40 | Anaral | Okay so my warlock has been in 'pending' status for well over 15 hours. Would I contact a blue ingame, or email? |
| 14:20.31 | Lunessa | And post 80... all the juicy threat info... |
| 14:21.30 | |pez| | anyone tried - http://www.carboniteaddon.com/ |
| 14:21.32 | |pez| | ? |
| 14:22.08 | leethal | another thing -- are there any libraries that can take, say, a table of a certain format, and use that to create a configuration panel? Or is it XML situps ftw? |
| 14:22.10 | ckknight | |pez|: yep, then I decided that I could do better |
| 14:22.27 | |pez| | ckknight: do better how? |
| 14:22.34 | ckknight | ~cartographer3 |
| 14:22.34 | purl | [cartographer3] the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 14:22.39 | Beladona | leethal: have you looked at the default config panel? |
| 14:22.42 | |pez| | wohoo |
| 14:22.56 | leethal | Beladona: you mean the default interface option stuff? No, I guess I should take a look at that, then =) |
| 14:22.59 | Beladona | granted some stuff would have to be created manually, but the actual insertion to the config panel is done by a table |
| 14:23.28 | leethal | hmm, I think I've looked a bit at that. You have to create actual configuration panel by hand, right? |
| 14:23.48 | Anaral | And ckknight's addon is free with all features. ;) |
| 14:23.53 | Beladona | yeah, although it shouldn't be hard for there to be a generator that does that for you. I jsut don't know if someone has yet |
| 14:23.54 | p3lim | haste: oChat has some issues with WotLK |
| 14:23.59 | p3lim | gonna test it some more now |
| 14:24.06 | ckknight | also, it's not obfuscated, so you can see what I'm doing |
| 14:24.41 | p3lim | yep, it has issues |
| 14:24.47 | leethal | doesn't pitbull do that? A table is used to generate the config panels? |
| 14:25.07 | p3lim | when I click name (its supposed to whisper) it rather makes me talk in the channel (as if i clicked the (!)) |
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| 14:25.25 | Beladona | thats a different lib used to make the config panel in pitbull I believe. ckknight would be able to tell you more |
| 14:26.07 | Anaral | I'm just glad that Carbonite is the only addon that I know of that you have to pay a monthly charge to use. I like a free addon universe. |
| 14:26.10 | ckknight | leethal: I used LibRockConfig-1.0 for PitBull |
| 14:26.23 | ckknight | note: for PitBull4, I will not be using that |
| 14:26.34 | leethal | what's up for PitBull4, then? |
| 14:26.36 | Kirkburn | Whee, new Lich King model - http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:LickKing8770c.jpg |
| 14:26.47 | |pez| | ckknight: but does it do neat quest stuff? 0,o, or is it just some awesome map thing? |
| 14:26.49 | ckknight | leethal: custom configuration, manually made |
| 14:26.58 | ckknight | |pez|: just use QuestHelper, it works fine with third-party addons |
| 14:26.59 | foxlit | He's still fat :/ |
| 14:27.47 | Kirkburn | He's not, he's just big :) |
| 14:27.59 | Kirkburn | Besides, the guy is massively powerful, it's muscle |
| 14:28.10 | leethal | ckknight: any particular reason? I thought auto-generating GUIs from a hash would be ideal, creating it manually seems a bit tedious. |
| 14:28.15 | Kirkburn | Are you expecting blood elf waists? :P |
| 14:28.18 | leethal | then again, I guess that's because I'm pretty noob at creating GUIs |
| 14:28.33 | Beladona | Kirkburn: isn't that the same model? |
| 14:28.38 | foxlit | leethal: the problem is, you're stuck with some rather basic controls if you intend to autogenerate them |
| 14:28.39 | Kirkburn | Nope |
| 14:28.41 | |pez| | ckknight: so your addon and questhelper would do the trick? |
| 14:28.43 | ckknight | leethal: because PitBull's configuration is unwieldy for most users, by coming up with a manual solution (something drag and drop, actually), I can make it not overwhelming |
| 14:28.48 | Beladona | do you have a pic of before? |
| 14:28.49 | Kirkburn | Not a human model any more, and custom animations |
| 14:28.50 | ckknight | |pez|: pretty much. |
| 14:29.00 | Kirkburn | Sure, sec |
| 14:29.11 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Lichkingwotlklive.png |
| 14:29.15 | Beladona | I can't remember the before model for some reason |
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| 14:29.35 | gamer001 | hi |
| 14:29.36 | leethal | foxlit, ckknight: good point. Kinda like phpmyadmin vs. a designed webapp, I guess =) |
| 14:29.44 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 14:29.52 | ckknight | in any event, I'm moving away from options tables |
| 14:29.53 | gamer001 | hasen't the svn some online agen? |
| 14:29.53 | Beladona | ahh ok, different model, but same basic look |
| 14:29.58 | Beladona | tahts why its hard to tell |
| 14:30.12 | ckknight | I made a lib, LibSimpleOptions-1.0, which allows you to create controls very easily, but you place them manually, takes out most of the tedium |
| 14:30.16 | foxlit | One of those builds, they'll make him a squirrel |
| 14:30.25 | ckknight | leethal: it's what I use for Cart3, and it's what I will use for PitBull4 |
| 14:30.27 | Kirkburn | Beladona, yeah, it's the movements that set him apart |
| 14:30.29 | Beladona | with big pointy teeth |
| 14:30.31 | Kirkburn | No more human responses |
| 14:30.39 | leethal | ckknight: nice, I'll take a look at that. Stand-alone? |
| 14:30.45 | ckknight | just LibStub |
| 14:30.48 | Kirkburn | He's more aloof and standing powerfully |
| 14:30.58 | Beladona | actuall a squirrel is the boss of the next expansion, :"Anger of the ForestBorne" |
| 14:31.00 | ckknight | it's all documented (luadoc-style) |
| 14:31.07 | leethal | <3 |
| 14:31.14 | Stanzilla | Kirkburn: he's fat now :( |
| 14:31.16 | ckknight | leethal: for a real-life example, see Cartographer3, though |
| 14:31.19 | Kirkburn | No he isn't |
| 14:31.22 | leethal | will do |
| 14:31.42 | foxlit | It's just Kirkburn's evil photography skills that make everyone look fat |
| 14:31.52 | Kirkburn | He stands side on like that :P |
| 14:31.58 | Beladona | he isn't fat, he just stands in a horse stance now |
| 14:32.03 | Kirkburn | I can get in front cause I'll jump to my doom :P |
| 14:32.04 | Beladona | and points his sword down |
| 14:32.09 | Kirkburn | *can't |
| 14:32.24 | leethal | ckknight: Cartographer3 == just 'Cartographer' on wowace? |
| 14:32.33 | Kirkburn | No |
| 14:32.33 | Anaral | No |
| 14:32.36 | Kirkburn | That's Cart2 |
| 14:32.42 | ckknight | no, Cartographer3's not on wowace, since I don't develop with svn anymore |
| 14:32.57 | ckknight | once the wowace-on-curseforge transition completes, it'll be on wowace |
| 14:32.58 | leethal | aight, I see |
| 14:33.00 | ckknight | ~cartographer3 |
| 14:33.00 | purl | hmm... cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 14:33.09 | ckknight | I don't want to give up git |
| 14:33.20 | Lunessa | The model doesn't look all that goo when it's not moving, but it looks pretty good while moving. |
| 14:33.31 | Kirkburn | ckknight, how goes a WotLK version? :) |
| 14:33.36 | ckknight | Kirkburn: of? |
| 14:33.40 | Kirkburn | Cart3 |
| 14:33.43 | haste | p3lim: I'd rather have you say nothing at all than just that |
| 14:34.02 | Anaral | Kirk it works flawlessly. |
| 14:34.03 | ckknight | Kirkburn: part of it is waiting for Blizz to finish up their maps |
| 14:34.14 | Kirkburn | Anaral, zooming brings up blank maps for me |
| 14:34.14 | Anaral | Well yeah, but in general |
| 14:34.17 | ckknight | Kirkburn: but it works, it just might look a bit funny in Northrend |
| 14:34.23 | Kirkburn | Indeed :) |
| 14:34.35 | ckknight | I need people to explore northrend and then send me their SVs |
| 14:34.39 | p3lim | haste: im looking into it as we speak |
| 14:34.42 | leethal | ckknight: shouldn't git clone git://git.curseforge.net/wow/cartographer3/mainline.git work? It goes 'fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly' |
| 14:34.52 | ckknight | yea, should work fine... |
| 14:35.04 | ckknight | hang on |
| 14:37.15 | leethal | works now |
| 14:37.18 | ckknight | woo |
| 14:37.42 | ckknight | had to restart xinetd |
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| 14:39.42 | leethal | how do you get the libs/ dir? tried submodules, nothin' |
| 14:39.56 | Lunessa | ckknight: You need SVs from Cart3 after someone has explored Northrend? Or you need SVs to get revealed map infro from the defualt client? |
| 14:40.11 | ckknight | I need SVs from someone who has explored northrend |
| 14:40.29 | ckknight | since it stores the overlay info in them |
| 14:40.40 | ckknight | leethal: just get a package from curseforge |
| 14:41.00 | ckknight | leethal: libs are added through .pkgmeta |
| 14:41.22 | Lunessa | ckknight: I've done a fair bit of exploring, but not all of it. I'll send you mine if you like. |
| 14:41.41 | ckknight | that'd be great :-) |
| 14:41.42 | Kirkburn | The Northrend exploration stuff has arrived in the new build, so people should be able to get everything now |
| 14:41.48 | ckknight | either Cart2 or Cart3 works |
| 14:41.55 | Kirkburn | (everything that's open, that is) |
| 14:42.05 | Nom- | wtb working elk buff bars (or similar) for wrath :D |
| 14:42.10 | Lunessa | Later today, I'll fire it up on this machine and get these updated from the server, then I'll let you have them. |
| 14:42.11 | Nom- | I might have to start hacking if there isn't one already |
| 14:42.51 | Lunessa | I have most (if not all) of the main "newbie" areas. |
| 14:45.43 | Industrial | Is there any info on exotic animals |
| 14:45.52 | Industrial | besides the big dinos uh.. forgot name |
| 14:45.59 | Lunessa | Devilsaurs. |
| 14:46.03 | Industrial | im off to ungoro to get one but if I can get other cool ones |
| 14:46.03 | Industrial | yes |
| 14:46.21 | Industrial | i want the black & blue one! :O |
| 14:46.33 | Lunessa | Industrial: Nothing specific, but I suspect that most "elite" or "special" creatures from zones count. |
| 14:46.37 | Industrial | k |
| 14:46.49 | Industrial | superior stats I hope |
| 14:47.02 | Industrial | this wild wolf pet i have now |
| 14:47.09 | Lunessa | Go get King What's His Name from Un'Goro. RAWR. |
| 14:47.12 | p3lim | where is the original AddMessage() located? |
| 14:47.14 | Industrial | has a talent that procs him and increases happiness by 5% |
| 14:47.17 | Industrial | and heals for 5% |
| 14:47.18 | Industrial | its mad :d |
| 14:47.22 | p3lim | ive gone through ChatFrame.lua, cant find it |
| 14:47.26 | Industrial | no food, and it can tank lots. |
| 14:47.40 | foxlit | p3lim: it's a widget method |
| 14:47.52 | Industrial | and every 10 min it can res for free :O |
| 14:48.07 | p3lim | ah |
| 14:48.44 | p3lim | ChatFrameN.AddMessage then? |
| 14:48.52 | foxlit | same |
| 14:48.56 | p3lim | something is changed atleast |
| 14:49.08 | foxlit | since ChatFrameN is a ScrollingMessageFrame or something similar |
| 14:50.15 | cladhaire | p3lim: What do you mean "something is changed" |
| 14:50.28 | p3lim | well |
| 14:50.50 | cladhaire | nothing has changed in that method for quite some time, nor would I expect it to |
| 14:51.04 | p3lim | with oChat in beta, when i click on a player name in a chat window the editbox should put to Whisper, right? but it sets to Channel instead :/ |
| 14:51.13 | Industrial | cladhaire: my addmessagehook stopped working that changed ;p |
| 14:51.16 | p3lim | but on live it works |
| 14:51.20 | Industrial | havent looked into it yet tho |
| 14:51.47 | cladhaire | if the hook relied on global arguments |
| 14:51.50 | cladhaire | then it woudl break, yes. |
| 14:51.54 | cladhaire | nothing changed in the method |
| 14:52.42 | Industrial | cladhaire: it didnt |
| 14:52.46 | Industrial | doesnt* |
| 14:53.14 | cladhaire | well i dont know |
| 14:53.34 | Industrial | me neither, fun! :D |
| 14:53.36 | p3lim | haste: try test it yourself, all i have is a slightly modified oChat |
| 14:53.43 | Industrial | its like a puzzle ;p |
| 14:54.19 | Bela|afk | holy shit |
| 14:54.35 | Bela|afk | FYI, there is a hole in the map in front of the barber shop in Dalaran |
| 14:54.37 | Lunessa | Actually they reordered something with the chat frame. In the first several builds, click a player's name in raw chat would display the Voice Chat UI instead of starting a whisper. But that seems to have been fixed in the last 2 builds. |
| 14:54.48 | Bela|afk | I jsut fell through and splatted in Crystalsong |
| 14:54.49 | Lunessa | Bela|afk: And in the pet store too. |
| 14:55.05 | Lunessa | It's a looooooooong freaking way down. |
| 14:55.20 | cladhaire | Lunessa: If we're talking beta then its possible.. I just don't have anything in front of me to look at =/ |
| 14:56.06 | Bela|afk | WHAT |
| 14:56.14 | Lunessa | cladhaire: Yeah, I didn't crank open the chat code to look, I just know that some stuff has changed. but "AddMessage" should work, since it works in my macros. |
| 14:56.24 | Bela|afk | the teleport crystal cannot be used until the teleport crystal in dalaran has been used at least once? |
| 14:56.34 | Lunessa | Bela|afk: There's a quest. |
| 14:56.39 | Bela|afk | since when? |
| 14:56.44 | Lunessa | Always |
| 14:56.52 | Bela|afk | yeah I did it |
| 14:56.58 | Bela|afk | both ways |
| 14:57.10 | Lunessa | Really? Because I did the quest, and it works for me. |
| 14:57.30 | Lunessa | I fell through the floor last night, and used the crystal to get back up. |
| 14:57.46 | Bela|afk | I remember doing it |
| 14:57.50 | Bela|afk | but maybe it reset on me or something? |
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| 14:57.57 | Lunessa | Did you re-copy? |
| 14:58.02 | Bela|afk | no, same char |
| 14:58.17 | Bela|afk | I was bound in Dalaran for God sake |
| 14:58.21 | Lunessa | Hai 2 U. |
| 14:58.37 | Lunessa | Bela|afk: Did you do the quest in the crystal room? |
| 14:58.40 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Shirik|Ecole. *happy hugs* |
| 14:58.47 | Bela|afk | yes, both ways |
| 14:58.57 | Industrial | Shirik|Ecole: damny uo for being here twice :p |
| 14:59.01 | Lunessa | Sounds like a bug then. |
| 14:59.06 | Shirik|Ecole | ? |
| 14:59.40 | Bela|afk | we need a map of dalaran |
| 14:59.48 | Lunessa | I mean, Dalaran got LOTS of changes in the new build so I wouldn't be shocked that something reset or broke. |
| 14:59.55 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik|AFK and Shirik|Ecole. Twice as much fun, doublemint gum. |
| 15:00.29 | p3lim | Industrial: what is your gcode again? |
| 15:00.53 | Bela|afk | the underbelly has a map |
| 15:00.59 | Bela|afk | just not the top part of dalaran |
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| 15:02.25 | Bela|afk | underbelly has some missing parts of the floor though LOL |
| 15:02.57 | leethal | what's a sensible representation of radio buttons in wow config panels? |
| 15:02.58 | leethal | drop-downs? |
| 15:03.30 | haste | p3lim: test what :p ? |
| 15:03.40 | p3lim | you using oChat in beta? |
| 15:03.55 | haste | yes |
| 15:04.06 | ckknight | leethal: yea, pretty much |
| 15:04.11 | p3lim | if you click someone's name in any channel (general, trade etc) you dont start a whisper, you start writing in the same channel |
| 15:04.19 | p3lim | thats the change i found |
| 15:04.56 | p3lim | you cant shift-click people in chat anymore etc |
| 15:05.04 | p3lim | to use a /who check |
| 15:05.43 | foxlit | Player hyperlinks are still probably player hyperlinks |
| 15:05.51 | foxlit | Which means you can do whatever you want with them :) |
| 15:06.18 | haste | p3lim: I see why |
| 15:07.00 | leethal | ckknight: the simple config lib has a really nice API, very sensible. Makes you wonder why the built-in API isn't as easy to use. |
| 15:07.03 | foxlit | ItemRef.lua function SetItemRef(link, text, button) is what you're interested in |
| 15:07.13 | p3lim | you see the problem or a possible fix? |
| 15:07.36 | haste | both most likely |
| 15:07.44 | ckknight | leethal: the main reason I like this approach is that I can stick in custom stuff if need be. I do in Cart3 to show how big POIs are going to be (instead of just showing a slider) |
| 15:07.45 | haste | haven't checked any code |
| 15:08.17 | ckknight | leethal: also, if you need a new standard control (e.g. editboxes, haven't made those yet), I'd be fine taking a patch |
| 15:08.41 | leethal | =) |
| 15:09.34 | ckknight | leethal: if I ever decide on making an automatic layout thing for it, it'll be a separate lib, but I'm really not sure I'm gonna bother |
| 15:09.38 | Bela|afk | yay! 2 times through the floor! |
| 15:10.20 | leethal | by the way, MakeDropdown seems to return the frame wrapping both the dropdown and the label. How can I set the width of the dropdown itself? By calling the name of the dropdown frame directly, I guess, which is following some sort of convention? |
| 15:10.58 | cncfanatics | btw, is there already a libstub dewdrop lib around ? |
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| 15:11.31 | ckknight | leethal: yea, hrm, I thought it just returned the dropdown, which has the label attached to that |
| 15:11.46 | ckknight | leethal: but there is a standard naming convention for everything |
| 15:12.30 | leethal | hmm yeah it does indeed return the actual dropdown |
| 15:12.36 | leethal | I'll figure something out ; ) |
| 15:13.23 | p3lim | haste: ok, let me know when youve updated on git |
| 15:24.00 | leethal | how do you create seriously large text? Like, large. Everything I've been able to find is to set the scale (SetScale) on the parent frame of the font string. |
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| 15:29.42 | haste | p3lim: pushed |
| 15:29.50 | p3lim | thanks :) |
| 15:34.24 | End | The horde wins! |
| 15:34.28 | End | I'm not sure why though |
| 15:34.45 | End | Is there a pvp objective in howling fjord I don't know about? |
| 15:34.55 | End | oh, we won again |
| 15:34.58 | End | and again |
| 15:35.02 | Industrial | I just tamed a Dredge Striker |
| 15:35.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That's currently broadcast across the entire world |
| 15:35.09 | Industrial | in Silithus |
| 15:35.12 | Industrial | (a worm) |
| 15:35.16 | End | ahh |
| 15:35.18 | Industrial | Is there a list of exotic pets? |
| 15:35.27 | Industrial | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=11740 |
| 15:35.31 | End | new beta builds for the win I guess 8-) |
| 15:35.47 | p3lim | nice haste, it works ;) |
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| 15:40.04 | Anaral | Um, anyone else get the achievement that they reached lvl 80? I'm barely 20% into 70. o.O |
| 15:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes |
| 15:40.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Everyone does! |
| 15:41.19 | End | wow, do they record every kill I've ever done? o_O |
| 15:41.30 | End | what, I've never killed edwin vancleef! |
| 15:41.35 | End | (I' |
| 15:41.40 | End | (I think that's wrong..) |
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| 15:41.52 | Aznamir | Hello everyone |
| 15:42.12 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 15:42.38 | Aznamir | anyone good with AceDB-3.0 |
| 15:42.43 | Aznamir | ? |
| 15:44.30 | cladhaire | well nevcairiel and I wrote it |
| 15:44.33 | cladhaire | so you might say that |
| 15:44.56 | cladhaire | :P |
| 15:44.58 | Aznamir | =) |
| 15:45.14 | Aznamir | does it support old ace2 config tables? |
| 15:45.23 | Nom- | so noone seen any buff bars working in wrath? i can't seem to find any |
| 15:45.36 | Nom- | I'd even settle for quartz lol |
| 15:46.10 | cladhaire | Aznamir: that depends on what you mean specifically... |
| 15:46.42 | Aznamir | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93394 |
| 15:46.55 | Kirkburn | If you're getting "The Horde Wins!" spam ... Filter settings --> Other --> untick BG neutral |
| 15:47.09 | cladhaire | Aznamir: your default has to go under one of the parts of the database |
| 15:47.15 | Aznamir | getting an error message 'autobuff' is not a valid dayatype |
| 15:47.19 | cladhaire | likely in your case under .profile |
| 15:47.20 | Lunessa | Nom-: None yet. |
| 15:47.27 | End | Kirkburn: ah, thanks |
| 15:47.38 | Kirkburn | Bloody Horde |
| 15:47.42 | End | :D |
| 15:47.46 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 15:48.37 | Industrial | Anyone have any info on exotic mobs? |
| 15:48.49 | Kirkburn | Devilsaur |
| 15:48.54 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 15:48.56 | Industrial | no i know that ofcourse |
| 15:48.58 | Kirkburn | Chimaera. |
| 15:49.03 | Kirkburn | Um, that's all I know. |
| 15:49.07 | Industrial | Kirkburn: exactly, is there a list? |
| 15:49.12 | Industrial | I just tamed a worm.. |
| 15:49.16 | Kirkburn | Dunno, but I want one :) |
| 15:49.20 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 15:49.27 | nevcairiel | everyone has a devilsaur now |
| 15:49.31 | Kirkburn | Make a list! |
| 15:49.35 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, not any more surely |
| 15:49.40 | Kirkburn | They'd all need to be BM |
| 15:49.40 | cladhaire | Aznamir: Here's an example |
| 15:49.40 | cladhaire | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/93395 |
| 15:49.43 | Industrial | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?npc=14477 |
| 15:49.44 | Industrial | like that one |
| 15:49.48 | Industrial | but i cant find Grubthor |
| 15:50.17 | Industrial | Kirkburn: any reason not to be BM? |
| 15:50.20 | Industrial | ;P |
| 15:50.22 | Kirkburn | Grubthor ... is there a Maggodin? |
| 15:50.33 | Kirkburn | Wormzeus perhaps? |
| 15:50.43 | Industrial | what? |
| 15:50.57 | Kirkburn | I am assuming Grubthor is a "godly" worm |
| 15:51.07 | Kirkburn | (geddit? geddit?) |
| 15:51.28 | Industrial | I guess so but I cant see if its spawned in a quest or smoething |
| 15:51.29 | Industrial | it looks nice |
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| 15:51.55 | Kirkburn | I don't know if I could abandon my cat |
| 15:52.07 | Industrial | cat.. :p |
| 15:52.08 | Kirkburn | Been by my side since level 30 :( |
| 15:52.15 | Industrial | stable him? |
| 15:52.16 | Kirkburn | Sad, innnit |
| 15:52.41 | Kirkburn | I guess |
| 15:53.07 | Kirkburn | Holy crap .... so that's the blue ribbon bug |
| 15:53.41 | Kirkburn | I think they went over the top on the decor in some towns |
| 15:53.46 | Industrial | Kirkburn: http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/untameables.php |
| 15:53.48 | Industrial | im gunna try these |
| 15:53.57 | Kirkburn | They are overshadowed by giant blue ribbons |
| 15:54.02 | Industrial | omw to the kurken |
| 15:54.07 | Kirkburn | omg, yes |
| 15:54.12 | Kirkburn | Fingers crossed |
| 15:54.15 | Industrial | :) |
| 15:54.29 | End | wtf |
| 15:54.29 | Kirkburn | But then, everyone will have the Kurken :P |
| 15:54.39 | Industrial | I couldnt tame a stegodon in unguru |
| 15:54.46 | End | My cenarion war hippogryph's model turned into a brown ellek! |
| 15:54.51 | End | elekk* |
| 15:54.57 | Kirkburn | And it doesn't fly :( |
| 15:55.37 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 15:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I've already posted that on the bug forums |
| 15:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765639627&sid=2000 |
| 15:57.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just really, really, really glad I didn't logout on the edge of a cliff or something |
| 15:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Then come back, "mount up" and jump off |
| 15:57.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That could have been problematic |
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| 15:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | *splat* |
| 15:58.48 | Anaral | Does NYI mean Not Yet In? |
| 15:59.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup! Splat avoided! |
| 15:59.03 | End | close enough |
| 15:59.12 | End | Not Yet Implemented actually |
| 15:59.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Not Yet Implimented, but yeah, close enough |
| 15:59.17 | Industrial | it'd be funny if mages ice blocking would still fall but then just in a block of ice |
| 15:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | *all mages ;) |
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| 16:00.17 | Industrial | hmmmm... mana wyrm pet... nah too small :p |
| 16:00.24 | Industrial | .. mana drain :O |
| 16:00.24 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 16:00.32 | Industrial | ill have to try it :D |
| 16:00.32 | Lunessa | Watch your step in Dalaran. |
| 16:00.41 | Kirkburn | Don't go in the barbers |
| 16:00.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Or the cheese shop |
| 16:01.00 | Industrial | is there a barbershop in org/uc? |
| 16:01.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Or the pet store |
| 16:01.07 | Lopeppeppy | Cheese shop? Nope, no cheeses for Peppy |
| 16:01.20 | Kirkburn | Indy, yep |
| 16:01.25 | Industrial | cool |
| 16:01.26 | Industrial | :D |
| 16:01.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: good, because if you did, you'd get a 300 yard+ splatter death! |
| 16:01.47 | Lunessa | It's a long goddamned way down too. |
| 16:02.27 | End | so...wear a parachute cloak when going around dalaran? |
| 16:02.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Or reroll a mage. The choice is yours. |
| 16:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | (Mages ftw!) |
| 16:02.51 | End | hehe |
| 16:03.16 | Industrial | pop 4-5 cd's kill someone not in plate, win? |
| 16:03.33 | Cide | except that's not at all true |
| 16:03.36 | Cide | unless you suck |
| 16:04.02 | Industrial | well they manage to fuck my shaman up quite well Cide :p |
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| 16:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not plate ;) |
| 16:04.22 | Cide | what spec? |
| 16:04.52 | Industrial | ScytheBlade1: yes, not in plate. |
| 16:04.59 | Industrial | Cide: elemental or resto |
| 16:05.06 | Cide | there's your problem |
| 16:05.21 | End | and enhancement wouldn't be? o_O |
| 16:05.24 | Cide | enhancement shamans DESTROY mages |
| 16:05.37 | Industrial | if they dont cet cced first |
| 16:05.40 | ScytheBlade1 | If they even get a little bit close |
| 16:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the condition, though |
| 16:05.45 | Cide | cc'd with what? |
| 16:05.46 | End | but..enhancement shaman would be really kiteable I would think |
| 16:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | They have to get close |
| 16:05.48 | Industrial | frost |
| 16:05.54 | ScytheBlade1 | They are /really/ kiteable |
| 16:05.59 | Cide | yep |
| 16:06.04 | Cide | but in arenas that's not very difficult |
| 16:06.15 | ScytheBlade1 | If the mage runs in circles the entire time and spams fireblast they'll win eventually |
| 16:06.37 | Lopeppeppy | Weeeeeen! |
| 16:06.39 | Industrial | just freeze him in place with a frost prov |
| 16:06.41 | Industrial | and pewpew |
| 16:06.45 | Industrial | proc* |
| 16:06.53 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: bullshit |
| 16:07.04 | Cide | besides |
| 16:07.09 | Industrial | fortunately wolf now dispels roots |
| 16:07.10 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:07.22 | Cide | it's not very difficult to line of sight a mage |
| 16:07.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: large circles :P |
| 16:07.31 | Cide | good luck with that in arenas |
| 16:07.44 | Industrial | im not talking arenas |
| 16:07.44 | p3lim | Just made an addon to stop the "The Horde Wins!" spam |
| 16:07.46 | Industrial | mages in general |
| 16:07.50 | Industrial | eg playing on a pvp server |
| 16:07.51 | Cide | then why are you talking? |
| 16:07.53 | p3lim | gonna upload it to wowi once ive tested it |
| 16:07.54 | Industrial | (the REAL wow) |
| 16:08.16 | Lunessa | I'm not all that kite-able any more - Lave Burst + Maelstrom Weapon+ Improved Storm Strike bitches. |
| 16:08.38 | Industrial | I gotta try playing my sham a bit;p |
| 16:10.01 | Industrial | hunting beasts now :D |
| 16:10.22 | Industrial | omw to kurken, almsot in auberdine Kirkburn |
| 16:11.05 | Lunessa | So, my warlock tried to take the boat to Northrend last night... and now I'm stuck in the zoning process. |
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| 16:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | World server down, whooo |
| 16:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | Bring back Captain Placeholder! |
| 16:12.43 | Industrial | btw those orde/alliance wins messages |
| 16:12.46 | Industrial | arent those from silithus? |
| 16:13.52 | End | wouldn't surprise me |
| 16:15.38 | laeg | does anybody get the warcraft joke in the first post of this thread? |
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| 16:15.54 | laeg | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5275908794&sid=1 |
| 16:16.48 | Industrial | nope |
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| 16:21.35 | Industrial | Kirkburn: confirmed the kurken is not tameable |
| 16:22.13 | Kirkburn | nooooooooo |
| 16:22.25 | Kirkburn | There is still hope pre release I guess |
| 16:22.26 | Industrial | gunna play my sham a bit; p |
| 16:23.07 | Industrial | hehe i named my sham Fllay |
| 16:23.07 | ckknight | so they changed how OptionalDeps works in WotLK, right? I'm not just going insane? |
| 16:23.10 | Industrial | hunter is Natarle |
| 16:23.12 | Industrial | :-) |
| 16:24.35 | Kirkburn | ckknight, yeah, it's ... weird |
| 16:24.46 | ckknight | that is, that OptionalDeps no longer automatically loads the libraries, I have to call LoadAddOn for them to load |
| 16:24.57 | End | Weird |
| 16:27.45 | End | and now most of my addons are working in wrath o_O |
| 16:27.48 | End | I dont know what I did |
| 16:29.32 | Maldivia | cladhaire: ? |
| 16:29.43 | cladhaire | ? |
| 16:29.52 | Maldivia | you on eu or us beta? |
| 16:29.56 | cladhaire | eu |
| 16:29.57 | cladhaire | and us |
| 16:30.00 | cladhaire | primarily eu |
| 16:30.02 | Maldivia | which client version ? |
| 16:30.07 | cladhaire | enUS |
| 16:30.08 | cladhaire | err |
| 16:30.09 | cladhaire | enGB |
| 16:30.16 | Maldivia | can you connect to us with gnb? |
| 16:30.18 | Maldivia | gb* |
| 16:30.25 | cladhaire | I haven't tried |
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| 16:30.40 | cladhaire | I actually have the US client, and the enGB beta clients |
| 16:31.29 | Maldivia | well, ever since patch last night, I'm getting unable to validate version error, when trying to connect to US beta with enGB client |
| 16:32.32 | Xinhuan | how does the WTF folder work now in wotlk? |
| 16:32.47 | Maldivia | and dont know if it's my end or their end, and figured I'd ask if anyone else had the problem, before reinstalling client |
| 16:32.49 | End | I have no idea o_O |
| 16:32.49 | Xinhuan | i see like an account folder for my live account name and another account folder for the email address |
| 16:33.01 | Xinhuan | i used for the beta account |
| 16:33.03 | Maldivia | it's the email address folder that's the correct one |
| 16:33.05 | Xinhuan | and both gets written to |
| 16:33.14 | cladhaire | that was last version, actually |
| 16:33.22 | cladhaire | they're moving away from bn auth |
| 16:33.26 | cladhaire | the cvar changed in this version |
| 16:33.33 | Xinhuan | i just alt-f4ed and both folders got written to |
| 16:33.34 | End | my addon settings seem to be going in one, and my macros and layout in the other |
| 16:33.35 | cladhaire | and last build the SV's moved from the blizz account to the actual account name |
| 16:33.36 | Xinhuan | whats up |
| 16:33.45 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: your SV's only go to the account name |
| 16:33.50 | cladhaire | or at least that was behavior last build, which was new |
| 16:34.07 | cladhaire | my apianalyzer scripts had to be adjusted, that's why I mention it specifically |
| 16:34.13 | Xinhuan | that makes no sense to me o_O |
| 16:34.21 | Xinhuan | as every file got overwritten in both accuont folders |
| 16:34.26 | Xinhuan | when i alt-f4ed |
| 16:35.16 | cladhaire | then maybe they changed it in this build so it hits both |
| 16:35.25 | cladhaire | but i 100% guarantee you that both were not written in the last build |
| 16:35.31 | cladhaire | I ran through it 10 times |
| 16:35.42 | Xinhuan | ok it appears that addons saved data are in the live server account named folder |
| 16:36.02 | Xinhuan | and stuff like chatframe and layout is saved in the betaacoount folder |
| 16:36.02 | ckknight | hey, found a way to crash WotLK ;-) |
| 16:36.05 | cladhaire | i think they're blizzard account stuff was a bit premature |
| 16:36.09 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.32 | cladhaire | i shoudln't have to have two blizzard accounts for my US and EU accounts |
| 16:36.36 | cladhaire | I should be able to use either of them |
| 16:36.47 | cladhaire | hopefully they're moving to stuff like station accounts |
| 16:36.48 | Maldivia | ckknight: actually, speaking of those - can't that be used to scan through *all* player guids? |
| 16:37.03 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 16:37.18 | Xinhuan | wouldn't htat crash you if you tried a guid that isn't on your server? |
| 16:37.56 | Garoun|Loupana | it's even more odd clad, how you log into the temp account but it uses your real account name to save the variables |
| 16:38.00 | Maldivia | Xinhuan: the achievement links contaons a player-GUID part, to insert the name of the player that aquired the achievement, but haven't tried with non-existing |
| 16:38.32 | Garoun|Loupana | and then uses the temp name to store a bunch of the user config stuff |
| 16:38.57 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 16:39.02 | cladhaire | well, they're mid-change atm |
| 16:39.09 | cladhaire | as i said, the bnet authentication server was removed from the cvar |
| 16:39.40 | cladhaire | -"realmListbn", -- default: "beta.logon.battle.net" |
| 16:39.40 | cladhaire | +"realmListbn", -- default: "" |
| 16:39.47 | cladhaire | so I think they're backing it out from 3.0 |
| 16:39.49 | cladhaire | but who knows :P |
| 16:40.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:40.10 | ScytheBlade1 | They should hard-code the IP for the realmlists too |
| 16:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "And suddenly, in the blink of an eye, all private servers as we know them, ceased to exist." |
| 16:41.00 | Duman | oh damn |
| 16:41.03 | Duman | bernie mac died |
| 16:41.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :/ |
| 16:41.17 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort Duman |
| 16:41.18 | purl | There, there, Duman. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:41.33 | cladhaire | [Blade of Misfortune] |
| 16:41.44 | cladhaire | not as good as the random [Orb of Deception] a while ago, but welcome either way :P |
| 16:42.34 | Pneumatus | ooh, stormpeaks has the startings of a map |
| 16:42.44 | batrick | ScytheBlade1: not really, then you'd just have a man in the middle server |
| 16:43.09 | Duman | wow, that blade of misfortune has huge stats for its ilevel |
| 16:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: do that for the average forum asking on general, "HOW DO I REMOVE THIS PATCH??? I DON'T WANT IT!!!!!1oneoneoneoneone11" and sure. |
| 16:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | s/forum/forum-goer/ |
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| 16:49.03 | foxlit | sign realm lists, np |
| 16:49.42 | foxlit | no amount of pretending to be blizzard's service is going to work around public key cryptography. |
| 16:50.00 | foxlit | s/vice/vers/ |
| 16:50.09 | laeg | Industrial: me neither |
| 16:50.29 | laeg | my be an inn joker relative to the server and i just moved there so... |
| 16:51.57 | Mery | the only problem is they'd just hack the client then, ofc they'd need to every patch but it's just a delay - so it'd mean more work for blizzard for a questionable result |
| 16:56.36 | foxlit | The action is a bit different, ethics wise :) |
| 16:57.00 | foxlit | writing alternative server software = not very evil; cracking official client = evil. |
| 16:58.56 | Sixen | What're the 3 rewards from The Spirit of Competition? |
| 16:59.11 | Sixen | The Tabard, the Medallion, and 1 more? |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:59.20 | Fisker- | the tabard and the medallion |
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| 16:59.38 | Shirik|Ecole | the tabard, the medal, and a feeling of accomplishment |
| 16:59.39 | Sixen | Oh, that's it? |
| 16:59.41 | Sixen | =P |
| 16:59.49 | Sixen | WoWWiki lists 1 more item. |
| 16:59.49 | Pneumatus | yeh, and i still dont have my medal :< |
| 16:59.56 | Pneumatus | after winning about 8 BGs |
| 16:59.56 | Sixen | "Souvenir TBD - No information yet. " |
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| 17:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 17:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | http://freespeech.vo.llnwd.net/o25/pub/images/cavity.jpg |
| 17:02.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay for digg |
| 17:02.43 | Mery | foxlit: using the same questtexts - at least as evil as cracking the client :) (since i somehow don't think those are stored in the client) |
| 17:02.59 | Industrial | rofl ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:03.11 | Sixen | Bernie Mac died today |
| 17:03.12 | Sixen | =o |
| 17:03.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah =[ |
| 17:03.27 | Bela|afk | wha? |
| 17:03.35 | Kirkburn | Pneumonia |
| 17:03.38 | foxlit | Mery: copying vs cracking. |
| 17:03.45 | foxlit | It's trivial to scrape wow's quest cache |
| 17:04.01 | foxlit | It's not trivial to change wow's executable. |
| 17:04.04 | Arrowmaster | its trivial to scrape any of wows caches |
| 17:04.40 | Mery | foxlit: how trival it is doesn't matter ethics wise |
| 17:05.53 | foxlit | And yet. |
| 17:06.50 | Mery | but of course making it harder for the "dumb" user would still have it's effect i suppose |
| 17:07.01 | Mery | its* |
| 17:07.50 | ScytheBlade1 | +1 to signing the realmlists. *That* would make it very hard to hack the binary into working |
| 17:08.18 | Duman | I should crank out levels on the DK while I'm godlike |
| 17:09.02 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm not really sure that's true ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:09.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Really depends on how it's done, I guess |
| 17:09.23 | Shirik|Ecole | I mean, it would make it harder than just changing the realm list sure |
| 17:10.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm no stranger to binary editing, I've got a copy of the Starcraft beta around and a hacked up battle.snp to let it connect to my local b.net server ;) |
| 17:10.45 | ScytheBlade1 | But it really boils down to how it's done in the end, yeah |
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| 17:13.38 | End | oh hey, I got the level 80 achievement too now o_O |
| 17:14.06 | Xinhuan | hmm is it healthy if one of my addons inherits a lot from blizzard templates and ends up creating 3584 globals, because each "button" inheritted is like 15 globals? |
| 17:14.46 | foxlit | Xin: don't care about that |
| 17:15.09 | Maldivia | never quite understood the hysteria about global namespace pollution - as long as you don't use too generic names (like calling your frames frame1 frame2 frame3 etc) |
| 17:15.19 | Xinhuan | as far as i know it doesn't cause performance issues, just wondering if its "healthy" |
| 17:15.29 | Xinhuan | or good/bad coding practice |
| 17:16.17 | ckknight | *sigh* why don't they put the Scarlet Enclave on the world map? it seriously complicates things for Cart3 |
| 17:16.49 | Mery | i created a new character and "got" the level 10 achievemnt as recent achievment, but _no_ points for it, so it may be some kind of bug what should be displayed there (like lvl 70 in your case) |
| 17:17.25 | Xinhuan | ok i just checked, of that 3584 globals, 3499 of them are type() table ;p |
| 17:17.31 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone remeber how to check ingame if you're using DirectX or OpenGL as the rendering engine? |
| 17:18.04 | foxlit | Considering how they do everything possible to insulate you from rendering, it's entirely possible they simply don't tell you |
| 17:18.17 | foxlit | If they do, it's probably a cvar |
| 17:18.33 | Shirik|AFK | Maldivia: You can check the cvar |
| 17:18.37 | Shirik|AFK | I need to look up what it is again |
| 17:18.44 | Shirik|AFK | I think it's something like gameEngine |
| 17:18.51 | Shirik|AFK | sec |
| 17:19.16 | foxlit | function splitChunk(chk, match) local ret, i = {}, 1; for m in chk:gmatch(match) do ret[i], i = m, i+1; end return ret; end |
| 17:19.36 | Maldivia | the cvar gxApi it seems, according to wowwiki - forgot about the cvars :) |
| 17:19.39 | foxlit | would the results match up left-to-right? |
| 17:19.49 | Shirik|AFK | wow, way off |
| 17:19.50 | Shirik|AFK | gxApi |
| 17:19.53 | Shirik|AFK | bah, you win Maldivia |
| 17:20.53 | Shirik|AFK | foxlit, yes |
| 17:21.22 | Shirik|AFK | actually, hrm |
| 17:22.26 | Shirik|AFK | yup |
| 17:22.41 | Shirik|AFK | I guess I shouldn't think the compiler is stupid :) |
| 17:27.58 | cncfanatics | mmm, whats the EU coder guild ? |
| 17:28.43 | Xinhuan | did anyone notice the character shadows have gone back to being blobs on the floor? |
| 17:28.47 | Duman | hmm |
| 17:28.52 | Duman | I wonder if I'll log in dead today |
| 17:29.02 | Duman | my client crashed last nigth as I was running towards a node on a ledge |
| 17:29.06 | Duman | and I just went ot bed |
| 17:29.12 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 17:29.14 | Duman | $5 says I'm at the bottom of the cliffs |
| 17:29.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be awesome if you are |
| 17:29.56 | Duman | whoa |
| 17:29.59 | Duman | I was in the air |
| 17:30.05 | Duman | managed to hit divine shield :) |
| 17:30.11 | cncfanatics | hah |
| 17:30.20 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 17:30.25 | cncfanatics | wotlk just crashed when I logged out lol |
| 17:31.36 | Pneumatus | cncfanatics: Tainted and Secure |
| 17:31.42 | Pneumatus | alliance side |
| 17:31.45 | nevcairiel | oh yay worldserver down again |
| 17:32.13 | Pneumatus | i think Funkeh set it so everyone can invite as well |
| 17:32.41 | Kirkburn | People are /flying/ around Azeroth :P |
| 17:32.55 | |pez| | They are? :o |
| 17:32.58 | Kirkburn | Gray Kodo = Ebon Gryphon >_< |
| 17:33.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:33.24 | Kirkburn | Since Gray Kodo has no cast limit, the resulting gryphon does what a ebon gryphon can :P |
| 17:33.46 | Kirkburn | http://i37.tinypic.com/ei2l1g.jpg |
| 17:34.03 | Kirkburn | Whilst Brown Kodo = Gray Elekk |
| 17:34.47 | nevcairiel | something about that screenshot looks terribly wrong |
| 17:34.51 | ScytheBlade1 | A lot of the mounts broke |
| 17:35.36 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, that was g0urra on Northrend a few mins ago, and yeah, graphics went crazy :P |
| 17:37.01 | Kirkburn | Also ... notice any difference? http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6048/wowscrnshot080908133444wv8.jpg |
| 17:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf? |
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| 17:37.55 | nevcairiel | the king has a throne now, eh? |
| 17:38.14 | Lunessa | Schweet. |
| 17:38.40 | zenzelezz | looks fake |
| 17:38.51 | zenzelezz | doesn't fit the room |
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| 17:39.38 | Stanzilla | http://www.staneck.de/upload/files/80efb6-WoWScrnShot_080908_193842.jpg |
| 17:39.42 | Stanzilla | wtf |
| 17:40.21 | nevcairiel | man that everyone has to excessively abuse a bug |
| 17:41.33 | ckknight | anyone have any thoughts on how best to show the Scarlet Enclave (where DKs start) on Cart3? Should I overlay the map onto where it is in EK or should I have it be separate like how battlegrounds are? |
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| 17:42.08 | ckknight | s/EK/EPL |
| 17:42.18 | Lunessa | Treat it as an instance, since that's what it is. |
| 17:42.26 | zenzelezz | I'd say separate |
| 17:42.44 | nevcairiel | Its not exactly a instance |
| 17:43.04 | ckknight | I may just have it slightly east of EPL |
| 17:43.06 | Dashkal | no, more like a chunk of land way off like GM island |
| 17:43.14 | ckknight | but look like a battlegrounds map |
| 17:43.17 | Dashkal | but instanced seems like a good plan |
| 17:44.09 | zenzelezz | "<_86com> I live in georegia but i dont see rusia no where not even sound but they says theres tanks should i be worrie <_86com> You are in the state of Georgia. The nation of Georgia is on the other side of the world" |
| 17:44.40 | zenzelezz | typos credited to the east-European who typed it out |
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| 17:52.52 | Xinhuan | what bug is that Stanzilla |
| 17:52.57 | Xinhuan | summoning 10000 ghouls? |
| 17:53.28 | Duman | ok wtf |
| 17:53.30 | Stanzilla | dunno but looks like it |
| 17:53.34 | Duman | client keeps crashing w/ no error |
| 17:53.37 | Stanzilla | it keeps disconnecting me |
| 17:55.00 | Duman | my shadows are all broken now |
| 17:55.05 | Duman | unless I crank it up to 5 |
| 17:55.11 | cncfanatics | zenzelezz: some people are really tards aren't they ? |
| 17:55.30 | Duman | altho I seem to cast a shadow if it's against something far away (ie, not the ground right below me) |
| 17:55.56 | cncfanatics | what is the console command to activate shadows again ? |
| 17:56.04 | Duman | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.48 | cncfanatics | lol, it crashed me |
| 17:57.03 | Duman | well |
| 17:57.06 | Duman | what # did you use |
| 17:57.12 | Duman | has to be 0-6 |
| 17:57.24 | cncfanatics | 4 |
| 17:57.36 | cncfanatics | crash might be related due to the fact I'm on wine |
| 17:57.46 | Duman | haha, probably ;-) |
| 17:57.54 | Duman | and yeah, shadows don't work on linux yet I don't think |
| 17:57.58 | Duman | at least, I reclal kd3 mentioning that |
| 17:58.01 | cncfanatics | oki |
| 17:59.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Shadows instagib wine right now |
| 17:59.10 | Xinhuan | well using like 5 grinds my fps to a standstill |
| 17:59.29 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 17:59.32 | cncfanatics | is mail bugged atm ? |
| 17:59.41 | cncfanatics | I can't use the mailbox in the scarlet camp |
| 17:59.49 | Xinhuan | define "bugged" |
| 17:59.53 | foxlit | always |
| 18:00.12 | foxlit | the UI for it is broken, rather |
| 18:00.16 | foxlit | API still works |
| 18:04.03 | ckknight | cncfanatics: shift-right click |
| 18:05.31 | ckknight | alright, Cart3 now properly supports the scarlet enclave |
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| 18:08.27 | Mery | is anybody on us-beta pve willing to send me 1g (ingame character 'Mery')? |
| 18:09.48 | Lunessa | Will that enable you to transfer 100,000 gold from your Black Rock Depths vaults to me? |
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| 18:10.44 | Mery | nope, just enable me to buy 2 pets (main is on pvp - not good for addon coding) |
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| 18:32.52 | Anaral | How does one get to Dalaran? Like which road leads there? |
| 18:33.48 | Weye1 | heh, that's an interesting question :p |
| 18:34.02 | nevcairiel | Anaral: lvl to 74 and do some quest |
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| 18:34.14 | nevcairiel | (it floats above crystalsong forest) |
| 18:34.56 | Anaral | Everyone keeps getting these achievements... Except me. |
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| 18:54.36 | Anaral | Hmm, what spec should my mage use in Beta. |
| 18:55.58 | Aiiane | vendingmachine spec |
| 18:56.31 | Anaral | Okay. Thanks |
| 18:57.47 | Maldivia | arcane is looking interesting |
| 18:57.48 | Industrial | what spec should I use |
| 18:57.53 | Industrial | l2p your class |
| 18:57.58 | Industrial | l2try shit |
| 18:58.02 | Industrial | >_< |
| 18:58.27 | Maldivia | it's beta, respec is 1c, try them all |
| 18:58.42 | Industrial | ^ |
| 18:59.12 | Maldivia | play a level as one spec, when you go to train at levele up, respec at try another spec :) |
| 18:59.21 | Anaral | Heh |
| 18:59.27 | Industrial | actually, anyone playing a hunter? |
| 18:59.29 | Anaral | Perhaps I will. |
| 18:59.36 | Industrial | I'm having aggro problems playing as BM |
| 18:59.43 | Industrial | where i've never had that before |
| 18:59.57 | Industrial | auto shot on a mob plus my pet on him with growl and i get aggro |
| 18:59.58 | Maldivia | Industrial: they say they were tweaking the pet threat generation, perhaps they set it too low |
| 18:59.58 | Industrial | :| |
| 19:00.28 | Maldivia | how do you like the new hunter pet talent trees? |
| 19:00.32 | Industrial | I used to be able to rotate steadhy shot + auto shot fine and kill a mob in a few secs |
| 19:00.48 | Industrial | BM seems like BM, shuffled some stuff but its fine imo |
| 19:00.48 | zenzelezz | what pet? |
| 19:00.54 | Industrial | Wild Worg |
| 19:01.07 | Industrial | making my spec on wowhead sec |
| 19:02.27 | Industrial | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbGzgxRVuGxst0L |
| 19:02.28 | Industrial | so far |
| 19:04.07 | Industrial | also I cant log in atm, cant get the char list :p |
| 19:04.28 | haste | same |
| 19:05.49 | Nom- | ckknight: Any idea what's needed to get Auras working in Pitbull |
| 19:05.57 | ckknight | haven't looked at it |
| 19:06.26 | Nom- | ok well i just got devtools so i'll see if i can debug what's broke |
| 19:06.30 | haste | UnitBuff returns the same as UnitDebuff |
| 19:08.03 | Nom- | so that's the problem then... ? |
| 19:08.13 | haste | yes |
| 19:11.24 | foxlit | They... broke... timeLeft in the latest build |
| 19:11.53 | Iriel | it may have changed to 'expirationTime' |
| 19:12.06 | foxlit | It did. |
| 19:12.23 | Iriel | I believe that's partly to remind people to not poll Unit*Buff, and remember the time instead |
| 19:12.54 | foxlit | That's futile when UNIT_AURA fires with no explanation of what changed |
| 19:13.04 | Iriel | Then report that |
| 19:13.50 | foxlit | (sure, having an absolute expiry time prevents you from doing something silly like calling UnitBuff on OnUpdate, but the majority of UnitBuff calls are probably caused by UNIT_AURA requiring a blanket update in raid situations) |
| 19:14.04 | foxlit | I think that's been asked for and rejected a while back |
| 19:14.10 | Iriel | But really, even if it doesn't say what changed, you can still rescan ALL Of the UnitBuff calls on UNIT_AURA and then remember the new value |
| 19:14.19 | Iriel | at worst, you do it as often as you would for OnUpdate |
| 19:15.57 | Iriel | I'll admit Im not a raider but i find it unlikely you get sufficient UNIT_AURA events to come even close to OnUpdate frequencies (assuming that the UNIT_AURA event at least tells you what unit is involved) |
| 19:16.30 | Iriel | That'd mean it fired 30+ times a second for every unit |
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| 19:25.23 | Anaral | Where is the boat to the Howling Fjord? |
| 19:25.45 | nevcairiel | menethil |
| 19:25.48 | nevcairiel | for alliance |
| 19:25.51 | Anaral | bah |
| 19:26.13 | Anaral | I thought it was at Theramore. lol, no wonder I couldn't find it. |
| 19:29.07 | Shirik|Ecole | whee, my AC just broke |
| 19:29.08 | Shirik|Ecole | fun times |
| 19:29.17 | Lunessa | yay |
| 19:29.36 | Anaral | Time to move to Antartica ;) |
| 19:35.07 | nevcairiel | man freaking EU beta server, let me in already |
| 19:35.28 | Xuerian | Is there a way to set ghouls to passive? |
| 19:37.11 | Lunessa | You could try /petpassive in a macro. |
| 19:39.25 | Fisker- | i am destroying you Xuerian |
| 19:39.37 | Xuerian | Fisker-: lolwut |
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| 19:42.16 | Xuerian | ps: siege is awesome |
| 19:42.44 | Fisker- | old |
| 19:42.50 | Xuerian | Old indeed |
| 19:42.52 | Xuerian | Just like you |
| 19:43.00 | Xuerian | But perhaps, unlike you, a little more awesome |
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| 19:43.03 | nevcairiel | they really need to create a second EU beta server, or boost its performance somehow |
| 19:43.06 | nevcairiel | its so slow :( |
| 19:43.33 | laeg | could somebody have a glance at my post please? |
| 19:43.38 | laeg | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/4784/ |
| 19:43.44 | laeg | *elusif |
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| 19:46.08 | Slakah1 | laeg: unless the author has specifically coded for conditionals such as [mod:alt] then your macro wont work. |
| 19:46.36 | laeg | but it does work |
| 19:46.44 | laeg | for about 45 minutes and then bugs out |
| 19:48.11 | Lunessa | Outfitter is not coded to handle macro conditionals. |
| 19:51.24 | Slakah1 | you could do /run if IsAltKeyDown() then Outfitter:WearOutfitByName("Rogue: Stealth") else Outfitter:WearOutfitByName("Normal") end |
| 19:51.34 | Slakah1 | instead of /outfitter [mod:alt] wear Rogue: Stealth; [nomod:alt] wear Normal |
| 19:53.40 | laeg | Lunessa, Slakah1: tyvm i shall try that |
| 19:54.09 | laeg | D: |
| 19:54.11 | laeg | :D |
| 19:54.36 | Lunessa | Outfitter is pure gold, but it can only do so much. :) |
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| 19:57.22 | Anaral | I have a stealth outfit for Outfitter. |
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| 19:59.44 | Anaral | Instead of mod:alt, just keybind the outfit? |
| 20:14.03 | laeg | Anaral: then i can't use the same key for an attack in stealth and an attack nostealth |
| 20:14.35 | laeg | i'd have to press the the key before pressing my attack key |
| 20:14.47 | laeg | my way it's all in one key |
| 20:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ~seen Esamynn |
| 20:19.43 | purl | esamynn <n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7d 18h 56m 42s ago, saying: 'haha'. |
| 20:19.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ~seen Esamynn|Away |
| 20:19.50 | purl | ScytheBlade1: i haven't seen 'esamynn|away' |
| 20:20.28 | Thunder_Child | odd |
| 20:24.29 | NightHawkTheSane | .. dumb question.. anyone know why my addon's frames arn't remembering their position? |
| 20:26.43 | haste | does it have a name? |
| 20:26.47 | Kaso | are you making them in lua or xml? |
| 20:26.55 | haste | have you used SetUserPlaced? |
| 20:27.46 | NightHawkTheSane | it should have a name, it's in lua, and.. SetUserPlaced? o_0 |
| 20:28.02 | foxlit | [psst: http://code.google.com/codejam/contest/dashboard?c=agdjb2RlamFtchALEghjb250ZXN0cxiM4AYM B., if only for the chance to print THE CAKE IS A LIE in an actual program] |
| 20:28.29 | haste | NightHawkTheSane: frame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
| 20:28.44 | foxlit | haste: in practice, I don't think you have to do that |
| 20:28.53 | foxlit | If a user moves your frame, it's automatically set |
| 20:28.55 | haste | I believe you have to |
| 20:29.09 | foxlit | If they don't, well, your code will position it correctly. |
| 20:31.13 | Xinhuan | depends on how, where and when you save it and how/when the frame is created |
| 20:31.38 | Xinhuan | the stuff in layout-cache.txt is loaded just before VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 20:31.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, SetUserPlaced doesn't appear to be doing it. |
| 20:31.51 | Xinhuan | so if you created a frame before that event, the layout in there gets loaded |
| 20:32.02 | Xinhuan | if you created it after, it doesn't get loaded |
| 20:32.04 | NightHawkTheSane | gnn, |
| 20:32.08 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. I bet that's it |
| 20:32.15 | NightHawkTheSane | im creating the frames in PEW... |
| 20:32.34 | foxlit | bad NightHawkTheSane, bad! |
| 20:32.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, now that i think about that, yeah. thats not so bright. |
| 20:32.44 | Xinhuan | yep you will then need to hook the frame movement scripts then, to save the coords/location in your SV |
| 20:32.48 | Xinhuan | for restoring the position |
| 20:32.50 | foxlit | You're supposed to finish building our layout waaay before that :) |
| 20:32.58 | foxlit | *y |
| 20:33.05 | Xinhuan | i prefer the SavedVariable method |
| 20:33.13 | Xinhuan | because if you go by layout-cache.txt |
| 20:33.28 | Xinhuan | if the user ever disables your addon for one session |
| 20:33.28 | Xinhuan | that frame no longer exists |
| 20:33.33 | Xinhuan | and itgets deleted from your layout |
| 20:33.38 | Xinhuan | so if he reenables it back then |
| 20:33.45 | Xinhuan | all the positioning data is gone |
| 20:33.49 | Xinhuan | and reset to default |
| 20:33.49 | Xuerian | ^annoying |
| 20:34.20 | Xinhuan | hence all my addons always save location data in the SVs now and i restore them after VARIABLES_LOADED (by overriding whatever is saved in the layout cache) |
| 20:35.20 | foxlit | Users' fault for disabling your precious addon :) |
| 20:35.34 | Xinhuan | well it might be necessary to debug an addon conflict |
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| 20:35.52 | foxlit | Your fault for having your users debug conflicts :) |
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| 20:36.18 | Xinhuan | i'll just say its foxlit's fault next time |
| 20:36.22 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:36.36 | Lunessa | It could be my fault; it usually is. |
| 20:36.56 | foxlit | Join the foxlit & Lunessa's Blame Absorbing Company |
| 20:37.14 | foxlit | "If it breaks, it's our fault!" |
| 20:37.19 | Lunessa | For one small annual fee, we'll take the blame. |
| 20:38.42 | Dutchy_ | I'm trying to create a very basic frame here but so far it hasnt worked yet... this is what i have: http://pastebin.com/d2695fdfa I suspect the error is somewhere in the xml because the onload message() doesnt come up |
| 20:38.57 | Dutchy_ | I hope somebody here can tell me what i did wrong |
| 20:39.53 | NightHawkTheSane | so, to follow up with another stupid question, I'm guessing ADDON_LOADED would be the best time to do things like setup frames & register for later events? |
| 20:39.56 | foxlit | Script file="qhs.lua" /> is redundant |
| 20:40.18 | foxlit | <Slider ...></slider> tag mismatch |
| 20:40.43 | foxlit | When you suspect you have a problem with your XML, open it in your web browser |
| 20:40.58 | foxlit | Those will usually show you a tag hierarchy and whine at you if you've failed at basic XML |
| 20:41.01 | Fisker- | Xinhuan my friend |
| 20:41.27 | Dutchy_ | oh god, that simple typo was my problem :( |
| 20:41.36 | Dutchy_ | thanks a lot |
| 20:42.28 | Dutchy_ | hmm well, that fixed the message(), but still no frame |
| 20:45.15 | foxlit | I don't think you've declared anything visible |
| 20:45.23 | Dutchy_ | hmm code in OnShow works, so show is called, what do i need to do to get an actual frame? |
| 20:45.51 | foxlit | You have your actual frame -- it just contains no visual elements and is therefore transparent |
| 20:46.03 | Dutchy_ | how do i make it visible? |
| 20:46.26 | foxlit | You add something that would actually be visible |
| 20:46.38 | foxlit | A texture, a fontstring, a button, anything of that kind |
| 20:46.41 | Dutchy_ | I want to make a slider in it, one like in for example the graphics settings |
| 20:47.03 | Dutchy_ | I figured that was Slider, but im not sure |
| 20:47.20 | foxlit | For your slider, you have no size/anchors, so that's not going to be shown even if it had graphics by default |
| 20:47.27 | foxlit | You should probably inherit it from somewhere |
| 20:49.00 | Dutchy_ | hmm, ill try a button first and continue from there |
| 20:53.18 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, what's the command to disable server saving of the new keybinds and config? |
| 20:54.42 | Dutchy_ | so I've created a Button with a size and anchorpoint, but i still get no frame, what else have i forgotten to do? |
| 20:56.55 | foxlit | actually, just add a texture |
| 20:57.30 | foxlit | <Layers><Layer level="ARTWORK"><Texture r="0" g="0" b="0" setAllPoints="true"/></Layer></Layers> |
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| 21:00.46 | Dutchy_ | I've added that exact line to the button, to the frame, and to both, but no result |
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| 21:04.40 | Industrial | Where's the barber in SW |
| 21:05.15 | foxlit | paste the whole thing again? |
| 21:05.49 | Industrial | Where's the barber in SW |
| 21:06.07 | foxlit | I think you're confusing IRC with /1 |
| 21:06.37 | Industrial | I think you're confusing #wowuidev with #randomdev |
| 21:07.29 | Industrial | and before I ask here, ofcourse I'd have asked in /1 first :p |
| 21:08.14 | Industrial | found it myself |
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| 21:08.21 | Dutchy_ | foxlit: http://pastebin.com/d3c6c652d |
| 21:09.10 | Pneumatus | anyone know who "T.S." is likely to be in WoW? i'm assuming its probably an NPC or something |
| 21:09.39 | ckknight | teamspeak? |
| 21:09.48 | Seerah | yeah, who's t.s.? |
| 21:10.00 | Pneumatus | nah, its a ring with flavor text of "Forged for T.S." |
| 21:10.02 | ckknight | transsexual? |
| 21:10.54 | Cide | haha |
| 21:11.01 | Dutchy_ | Teh Sexeh |
| 21:11.04 | Cide | where's the "Forged for Cide" ring? |
| 21:11.11 | foxlit | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=35683 |
| 21:12.15 | Seerah | from that wowhead page foxlit linked (which I'm assuming was the reason for the linkage?) "Tony Stark reference. In Iron-man, the power reactor in his chest is a circular device made from Palladium." |
| 21:13.33 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 21:13.55 | foxlit | Dutchy_: my bad on the texture syntax, the actual line should be: |
| 21:13.56 | foxlit | <Layers><Layer level="ARTWORK"><Texture name="TTex" setAllPoints="true"><Color r="0" g="0" b="0"/></Texture></Layer></Layers> |
| 21:14.33 | foxlit | (minus the name="" part which I ended up using to track it down) |
| 21:14.35 | Dutchy_ | ok, trying that |
| 21:16.01 | Dutchy_ | ok great, now I have a draggable black box :) that should get me somewhere |
| 21:16.04 | Dutchy_ | thanks for the help |
| 21:17.27 | foxlit | this is also deprecated |
| 21:17.42 | foxlit | Use self, it's identical for the context you're using this in :) |
| 21:17.52 | Dutchy_ | self? |
| 21:18.20 | Dutchy_ | oh, self instead of this |
| 21:18.38 | foxlit | the dragging code looks extremely like the demo from wowwiki, so I should probably fix that |
| 21:19.15 | Dutchy_ | yes, it came from wowwiki |
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| 21:20.20 | Dutchy_ | and I'm guessing if I want my frame to look like a frame I should use a standard texture from somewhere instead of a color? |
| 21:20.50 | foxlit | That's the general idea, yes |
| 21:20.59 | Lunessa | If you want it to look like the default UI you should use the same textures. :P |
| 21:21.01 | foxlit | Some frames use backdrops rather than textures, however. |
| 21:21.32 | foxlit | Generally, find the frame / ui controls you want yours to look like in |
| 21:21.35 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 21:21.36 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 21:21.46 | foxlit | and inherit from the same places they do |
| 21:22.18 | foxlit | majority of the wow skins are in UIPanelTemplates.xml and UIOptionsTemplates.xml |
| 21:22.48 | Dutchy_ | very well |
| 21:23.41 | foxlit | That's a backdrop |
| 21:32.46 | Thunder_Child | 270 seeders and 2250 peers and i get ~50kB/s |
| 21:32.48 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 21:34.27 | Neo|Home | so.. haunt is a bit bugged |
| 21:34.34 | Neo|Home | seems to increase dmg from dots by like 100% or so |
| 21:34.54 | End | works for me ;-p |
| 21:34.54 | Neo|Home | rather, 1000% |
| 21:34.58 | End | *wink* |
| 21:35.08 | Neo|Home | corruption hits for 4000, siphon life ticks at 1700ish |
| 21:42.02 | Cide | what do they normally hit for? |
| 21:42.33 | Shirik | not even close to that? |
| 21:42.44 | Shirik | I'm assuming those are per-tick |
| 21:42.52 | Cide | my experience with warlocks tells me those are normal ticks |
| 21:43.23 | Shirik | I'd estimate corruption ticking for around 300 right now, no? |
| 21:43.50 | Cide | it was a joke, Shirik |
| 21:43.56 | Shirik | oh :( |
| 21:46.01 | End | as affliction, I think corrupted ticked for about 500-600 |
| 21:46.07 | End | curruption even |
| 21:46.10 | End | gawd |
| 21:46.13 | End | I give up on spelling |
| 21:46.17 | Xuerian | That's about right |
| 21:46.17 | End | corruption |
| 21:46.38 | End | it'd be a bit different on beta, and I haven't actually looked at the values on beta |
| 21:47.34 | Ackis | if function A calls function B, is there a way for B to cause A to stop running? |
| 21:48.10 | End | throw an error if A doesn't use use pcall to catch it? |
| 21:48.13 | nevcairiel | error :p |
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| 21:48.49 | End | also, never return, and just do an infinite loop would do it too :P |
| 21:48.53 | End | but I doubt that's the case |
| 21:48.59 | Shirik | Ackis: cause a segfault |
| 21:49.04 | Ackis | heh |
| 21:49.31 | Shirik | but yeah, you don't really have a way to do that except to do something like set an upvalue that is a flag to stop running, etc. |
| 21:49.35 | Ackis | so I'll just go with plan A and have it return 1 if it worked, and return nil if it didn't then check return values in function A |
| 21:49.42 | Shirik | Anything else is what I would consider spaghetti code |
| 21:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 21:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765570438&sid=2000 |
| 22:00.27 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* even the blizard downloader is faster than the war beta DL |
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| 22:06.35 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: rofl |
| 22:06.42 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: How'd you get into that? |
| 22:08.14 | Thunder_Child | not sure, the preorder-CE is for open beta not closed |
| 22:08.19 | Thunder_Child | but here i am in the closed one |
| 22:08.54 | Thunder_Child | though i think they are letting the CE pre's in early |
| 22:08.57 | Thunder_Child | to spread it out |
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| 22:09.31 | Xuerian | Ahh |
| 22:09.40 | Xuerian | Can't convince myself that I want it |
| 22:09.44 | Xuerian | too pvp centered for me I think |
| 22:12.21 | Thunder_Child | well, you need to stop thinking of wow |
| 22:12.29 | Thunder_Child | pvp can be good on how it is done |
| 22:12.55 | Thunder_Child | depending on* |
| 22:13.33 | Xuerian | Yeah, guild wars was good, for exmaple |
| 22:16.16 | Xuerian | I'd rather play a trial and go it that way though |
| 22:17.57 | foxlit | Here's a conundrum: how would you frame a knowledge-based problem in a way that'd make it impossible to be answered using google. |
| 22:18.00 | Thunder_Child | well the funny part is, is you can still cancel the preorder |
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| 22:22.19 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: I'd say it has to be based on understanding something, then (i.e. a conclusion, or an application of said knowledge to some scenario) |
| 22:23.07 | foxlit | Which is an option for a limited subset that can be applied - but a valid option there :) |
| 22:25.08 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, like 1 + 1? |
| 22:25.39 | foxlit | googling that would give you 2 :) |
| 22:25.49 | Thunder_Child | but not "what is one added to the number one" |
| 22:26.02 | Thunder_Child | that gives you crap |
| 22:26.32 | foxlit | True :) |
| 22:26.51 | Thunder_Child | it's easy to make it so google and understand it |
| 22:26.55 | foxlit | I was assuming a competent opponent, however - and a more factoid-like knowledge |
| 22:27.19 | Thunder_Child | s/it's easy to make it so google and understand i/fail/ |
| 22:27.32 | Thunder_Child | *sigH* |
| 22:27.59 | Shirik|Ecole | !g what is one added to the number one |
| 22:27.59 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: Number 1 in Middleware: Oracle® Unveils BEAâs Role in Product ... <http://www.oracle.com/corporate/press/2008_jul/middlewarestrategywebcast.html> |
| 22:28.03 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 22:28.28 | batrick | l2google |
| 22:28.55 | Thunder_Child | l2read batrick, the objecy is to make google not work |
| 22:28.59 | Thunder_Child | object* |
| 22:29.07 | Thunder_Child | i cant type worth crap today |
| 22:29.10 | batrick | whateva man |
| 22:29.22 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 22:29.26 | batrick | fix filum mkay?! |
| 22:29.45 | Thunder_Child | foxlit, do you have an example i can try out? |
| 22:30.41 | foxlit | I can't guarantee that it's doable, however. |
| 22:31.04 | foxlit | Something as simple as identifying a catchphrase / lyrics source |
| 22:31.26 | foxlit | If you know the song, you'd be able to do it; if you don't, googling is trivial in any framing I can think of |
| 22:31.42 | Garoun|Loupana | I really like Starfall |
| 22:31.58 | Garoun|Loupana | a spell that actualy looks good and worth casting |
| 22:32.19 | foxlit | nerfs incoming, np :) |
| 22:32.28 | Garoun|Loupana | I'm sure it is |
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| 22:32.54 | Garoun|Loupana | It's only worth casting if your in an instance on a big pull or farming with a lock/mage |
| 22:33.20 | foxlit | Your Death Knight tank will murder you :) |
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| 22:33.55 | Garoun|Loupana | yep :P but that's part of the fun |
| 22:34.13 | foxlit | or maybe not, considering your mitigation is comparable |
| 22:34.29 | Garoun|Loupana | of course a good DK will be tab-diseasing every target and then be ready to tag Blood Boil |
| 22:35.04 | foxlit | Runes |
| 22:35.15 | foxlit | And the stupid silliness that is pestilence |
| 22:35.17 | Xuerian | Why tab disease, why not just spread? |
| 22:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | pestilence wins. |
| 22:35.23 | cladhaire | pestilence is so secks. |
| 22:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | when it's working. |
| 22:35.27 | Garoun|Loupana | you can do spread also |
| 22:35.31 | Pneumatus | yeh, pestillence when it works, and bloodboil |
| 22:35.31 | foxlit | pestilence fails, basically |
| 22:35.34 | Garoun|Loupana | I've only played DK to 58 so far |
| 22:35.37 | Pneumatus | but mitigation is the real issue |
| 22:35.46 | foxlit | It's jump arc is like 15 degrees or something :) |
| 22:36.05 | Garoun|Loupana | but bloodboil without a long cool down like the other tank classes will be better at aoe tanking |
| 22:36.20 | foxlit | aoe taunting |
| 22:36.23 | foxlit | not tanking |
| 22:36.24 | cladhaire | keep in mind that death and decay is a disease too |
| 22:36.27 | Pneumatus | DnD to pull, then pestillence+bloodboil to aoe taunt |
| 22:36.29 | jaxdahl | cladhaire, not anymore |
| 22:36.34 | cladhaire | *gasp* |
| 22:36.40 | cladhaire | Blasphemy! |
| 22:36.42 | jaxdahl | can't DnD+bloodboil |
| 22:36.56 | Garoun|Loupana | that'd be too easy :P |
| 22:37.00 | jaxdahl | i use hungering cold and howling blast |
| 22:37.03 | Tekkub | damn that Iriel |
| 22:37.06 | Pneumatus | you cant? o.O |
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| 22:37.20 | foxlit | howling blast is just a hilarious piece of mechanics |
| 22:37.22 | Tekkub | so are the possession (MC) and vehicle bar states the exact same thing *hopes* |
| 22:37.38 | foxlit | Unless they fixed it lately |
| 22:37.42 | Tekkub | so that I can write this on my priest and have it work on vehicles |
| 22:37.44 | cladhaire | yeah howling blast is lots of fun |
| 22:37.46 | cladhaire | it used to be better |
| 22:37.54 | foxlit | It never hits when you need it to |
| 22:38.04 | Pneumatus | Tekkub: quite possibly, but i couldnt say for sure |
| 22:38.07 | jaxdahl | frost fever is easier to work with for hungering cold now |
| 22:38.08 | Gnarfoz | SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_27 = "What are you doing? Only aim that thing at Wilhelm!"; <- lol |
| 22:38.12 | Pneumatus | its the same mechanic of replacing your main bar with your pet bar at least |
| 22:38.26 | foxlit | Every time I've consciously tried to set up a proper howling blast, it refused to hit any targets at all |
| 22:38.34 | Tekkub | I mean, they are the same thing, except the vehicle bar pops up new art and hides your sidebar |
| 22:38.44 | cladhaire | oh HB works fine |
| 22:38.50 | Pneumatus | and changes your portrait frame to be the vehicle |
| 22:39.06 | foxlit | Chains of Ice -> HB at range had a 100% failure rate for me |
| 22:39.34 | cladhaire | why at range |
| 22:39.35 | cladhaire | just do it |
| 22:39.42 | cladhaire | turn off auto attack |
| 22:39.43 | cladhaire | set it up and rock |
| 22:40.01 | jaxdahl | looks like wotlk epics start at ilvl 200 |
| 22:40.09 | foxlit | Because the ~4 extra seconds hat pull gives me with no incoming damage are nice? |
| 22:40.32 | jaxdahl | tbc armor ended at ~159 and weapons at ~164 |
| 22:40.36 | Garoun|Loupana | I was a necro/druid in diablo2, I don't think I can play a DK without Corpse explosion :( |
| 22:41.17 | Xuerian | necro/druid? |
| 22:41.24 | Xuerian | Isn't that like a polar contradiction? |
| 22:42.04 | foxlit | necro/barbarian was a polar contradiction |
| 22:42.10 | foxlit | druids could get minions :) |
| 22:42.23 | Xuerian | I mean mentality wise :P |
| 22:43.03 | Garoun|Loupana | yes, but they both used corpses to have fun during fights :) |
| 22:43.12 | Garoun|Loupana | Corpse Explosion and Carrion Vines |
| 22:43.21 | Garoun|Loupana | I WISH druids had the latter in wow :( |
| 22:44.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, I love how digg is eating up the "russia at war with georgia" stuff |
| 22:44.56 | ScytheBlade1 | "Two Russian Planes Are Shot Down Over Georgia" |
| 22:46.06 | Sixen | back~ |
| 22:47.33 | ckknight | well, I'm in Alabama, right next to Georgia, and I'm not so sure about that |
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| 22:47.55 | Sixen | lawl@ck |
| 22:48.47 | Zeksie | hi.. approve X-Perl wotlk beta plx. thx :) |
| 22:48.56 | Lopeppeppy | ~poke ckknight |
| 22:48.56 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ckknight, pokes ckknight repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:49.04 | ckknight | howdy, Lopeppeppy |
| 22:49.11 | ckknight | you poked me |
| 22:49.15 | ckknight | do I get to poke you back? |
| 22:49.22 | ckknight | (and do I get to choose where I can poke you?) |
| 22:49.31 | ckknight | I'll be gentle ... unless you don't want me to be |
| 22:49.44 | Thunder_Child | wow...someones randy |
| 22:49.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ck always is. |
| 22:50.04 | Thunder_Child | i thought that was lunessa |
| 22:51.23 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa and I understand one another. ckknight hasn't gotten past the first date, and therefore does not get to poke me anywhere except my left pinkie. |
| 22:51.52 | Thunder_Child | thats a disturbing mental image |
| 22:52.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i keep reading pinkie as pickle |
| 22:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | TC, you're totally responsible for your disturbances. NightHawkTheSane, no comment. |
| 22:52.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ... makes me hungry for a pickle |
| 22:52.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ... no pun intended. |
| 22:52.34 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy, lies and slander |
| 22:52.38 | ckknight | the girlfriend's at her mom's this weekend, and I was expecting some fun, thoroughly dismayed that it won't happen until tomorrow, minimally |
| 22:52.59 | ckknight | so yes, Lopeppeppy is playing surrogate for now |
| 22:55.03 | Lopeppeppy | Awww.... I'm a cheap stand in for the real thing. Why am I soooo not flattered? |
| 22:55.18 | Thunder_Child | i dont think your goingto get off the first date with Lopeppeppy being second fiddle |
| 22:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm... going to keep my mouth closed |
| 22:55.33 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, TC |
| 22:55.35 | ckknight | it's okay, Lopeppeppy, I'm used to being shared |
| 22:55.40 | ckknight | after all, I'm worth it |
| 22:55.50 | Lopeppeppy | Well, there's enough ego to share at least. :P |
| 22:55.53 | Shirik|Ecole | Hi Zeksie, denied |
| 22:56.18 | Shirik|Ecole | I prefer to laugh at the people in #wowace that are saying "Hey is xperl supposed to cause you to crash when you log in?" |
| 22:56.47 | Gnarfoz | those can easily update without wowi :p |
| 22:56.53 | Gnarfoz | (at least they still can for now) |
| 22:58.38 | ScytheBlade1 | lol, a Devilsaur named "sudo" |
| 22:58.53 | Diao | lol.. did Zeksie not branch xperl on the wowace svn for wrath? :p |
| 22:58.57 | Gnarfoz | !g sudo make me a sandwich |
| 22:58.57 | batbot | Gnarfoz: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By ... <http://xkcd.com/149/> |
| 22:59.15 | Shirik|Ecole | wow |
| 22:59.16 | Shirik|Ecole | google is good |
| 22:59.36 | Gnarfoz | why would it not find that as result #1? ;) |
| 22:59.40 | cbreak | no, google is evil |
| 22:59.50 | Shirik|Ecole | because it's an image :P |
| 23:00.00 | cbreak | it's too powerful and without any morals |
| 23:00.13 | cbreak | google primarily indexes stuff by the links that point at them |
| 23:00.14 | Shirik|Ecole | !g overzealous wireless auto configure |
| 23:00.15 | batbot | Shirik|Ecole: Cisco 877W Integrated Services Router - wireless router : Read ... <http://www.ciao.co.uk/Cisco_877W_Integrated_Services_Router__6274574> |
| 23:00.18 | Shirik|Ecole | bah |
| 23:00.19 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: alt text? :> |
| 23:00.28 | Shirik|Ecole | alt text had none of those words :) |
| 23:00.37 | cbreak | and I bet xkcd has lots of links. |
| 23:00.48 | Gnarfoz | alt text has "Sandwich" |
| 23:00.53 | Gnarfoz | and just "sandwich" :D |
| 23:01.00 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, cbreak is more on the right track, anyway ;) |
| 23:01.13 | Shirik|Ecole | <img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png" title="Proper User Policy apparently means Simon Says." alt="Sandwich" /><br/> |
| 23:01.29 | Gnarfoz | like I said. |
| 23:01.34 | Gnarfoz | alt text has "Sandwich" :P |
| 23:02.24 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 23:02.25 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 23:03.08 | cbreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.14 | Gnarfoz | interesting to read, too |
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| 23:10.27 | Shirik|Ecole | sigh |
| 23:10.49 | Shirik|Ecole | I can't stand websites that try to be "helpful" on their login pages by setting your cursor to the username box after the page finishes loading |
| 23:11.04 | clad|sleep | disable javascript like a real man |
| 23:11.13 | Shirik|Ecole | People like me that start typing before it finishes loading and get to the password field and it's all like "oh you still have to type in username lolz" |
| 23:11.14 | clad|sleep | none of this bullshit "code" running |
| 23:11.36 | clad|sleep | imo |
| 23:11.37 | clad|sleep | itb |
| 23:11.45 | clad|sleep | fyi |
| 23:11.45 | clad|sleep | bbl |
| 23:13.03 | Shirik|Ecole | man, it's really hot in Florida without AC :( |
| 23:13.37 | Lopeppeppy | ~comfort Shirik|Ecole |
| 23:13.38 | purl | There, there, Shirik|Ecole. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 23:14.10 | batrick | Shirik|Ecole: indeed |
| 23:14.21 | cbreak | that's why people live there, right? :) |
| 23:14.46 | cbreak | I read florida is for old people who hate cold. |
| 23:15.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I like the new battleground |
| 23:16.09 | Shirik|Ecole | I hate cold |
| 23:16.14 | Shirik|Ecole | but this is a bit excessive :P |
| 23:18.11 | ScytheBlade1 | But... buggy |
| 23:18.33 | cbreak | as buggy as dalaran's floor? |
| 23:18.37 | cbreak | or the mage frost talents? |
| 23:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | All of the above and then some |
| 23:19.21 | clad|sleep | hrm |
| 23:19.23 | clad|sleep | in 32.4.3 |
| 23:19.25 | clad|sleep | err |
| 23:19.25 | clad|sleep | 2.4.3 |
| 23:19.29 | clad|sleep | when you unlearn talents |
| 23:19.34 | clad|sleep | do you have to re-buy spells" |
| 23:19.40 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 23:19.43 | clad|sleep | hawt |
| 23:19.53 | clad|sleep | didm't know if they fixed it then or in beta |
| 23:21.19 | Gnarfoz | that's been in for a while |
| 23:21.32 | Gnarfoz | don't even remember when, anymore ;) |
| 23:24.00 | clad|sleep | yeah i remember it happening.. just wanted to make sure :P |
| 23:27.16 | Shirik|Ecole | why aren't you asleep P |
| 23:27.26 | Shirik|Ecole | :P |
| 23:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I'm just depressed |
| 23:27.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The new battleground has a "Massive Seaforium Charge" |
| 23:27.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ... that does NOT despawn when you leave the BG |
| 23:27.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:27.56 | Gnarfoz | fun tiems |
| 23:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | So I figured, hmm, what's a good place to plant this in the world? |
| 23:28.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I know! Behind the king of SW! |
| 23:28.08 | ScytheBlade1 | So I port over, plant it |
| 23:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It's ticking |
| 23:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | And some entirely random person runs up and disarms it |
| 23:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | -.- |
| 23:28.24 | clad|sleep | hahaha |
| 23:28.24 | Gnarfoz | XD |
| 23:28.28 | Gnarfoz | fucking owned :P |
| 23:28.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The disarm cast is maybe 1 sec |
| 23:29.27 | Gnarfoz | 2sec I think, but I can't even remember the last time I disarmed something |
| 23:29.31 | Gnarfoz | least used rogue skill, ever |
| 23:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | No, this is unique to the charge |
| 23:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | It's quite a bit faster than the rogue disarm, anyone can do it |
| 23:29.56 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 23:29.58 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 23:35.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's try this again |
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| 23:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Argh, the bombs don't do friendly damage -.- |
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| 23:41.15 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: meh :( |
| 23:41.22 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: obvious next choice: org bank. |
| 23:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 23:41.32 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I just might the next time I log back over |
| 23:41.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Being a mage that'll be tricky, but doable |
| 23:41.49 | Gnarfoz | invis, hmmm :) |
| 23:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | If you die, you drop the bomb |
| 23:42.25 | Gnarfoz | ah, :< |
| 23:42.31 | Gnarfoz | woot, they changed the model of my axe |
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| 23:48.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765569840&postId=87647732468&sid=2000#6 |
| 23:48.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ highly relevant |
| 23:48.56 | Tekkub | Hey Iriel, an idea for your pdf |
| 23:49.46 | Tekkub | give an example "addon" ... a single button that changes due to shapeshift/stance, since that's the single most needed thing fro secure buttons :) |
| 23:53.23 | Iriel | I'm hoping to have several examples, i'll add that to my list |
| 23:53.25 | Iriel | thanks |
| 23:53.41 | Tekkub | :) |
| 23:54.22 | Tekkub | examples certainly help a ton, I'm still trying to figure out the enter/leave thing |
| 23:58.03 | ScytheBlade1 | .ap 1500 |
| 23:59.12 | Gnarfoz | hehe, ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Asking the ap for a friend |
