| 00:00.07 | Thunder_Child | Sixen, the post says |
| 00:01.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Create a DK |
| 00:01.25 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on the very same starting level as you |
| 00:01.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If you are facing away from the lich king but near him, it's it on the far side of the room on the front left |
| 00:01.58 | Sixen | Hm? It must be glitchy then.. |
| 00:02.01 | Sixen | Cause The Lich King isn't even there. |
| 00:02.11 | ScytheBlade1 | 20:01 < ScytheBlade1> Create a DK |
| 00:02.17 | Sixen | Yes... I know.. |
| 00:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Really? Not even there? |
| 00:02.26 | Sixen | Nope |
| 00:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Same room as Instructor |
| 00:02.29 | Sixen | Trying an alli char |
| 00:02.45 | Sixen | oh |
| 00:02.50 | Sixen | It used to be right in the starting spot |
| 00:02.50 | foxlit | They could've pushed a quest line update |
| 00:03.00 | foxlit | But you at least used to start with actual Arthas and everything |
| 00:03.38 | Sixen | How the hell do I get down from acherus wihtout jumping |
| 00:03.52 | foxlit | Teleports. |
| 00:04.05 | foxlit | But hey, do the quests |
| 00:04.10 | Sixen | hm? |
| 00:04.12 | foxlit | They tend to do a good job of leading you through content. |
| 00:04.20 | Sixen | Where are the teleports? |
| 00:04.41 | foxlit | Actually, do the quests. |
| 00:04.49 | foxlit | Even if you were told where they are, you wouldn't be able to use them. |
| 00:04.54 | Sixen | -_- |
| 00:04.57 | Sixen | I just want to see the book.. |
| 00:05.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I was able to make a death knight and see the book without doing any quests |
| 00:05.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Spawn in the world --> right there |
| 00:05.22 | Sixen | I'm in Acherus right now. There's nothing here. |
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| 00:05.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You on Northrend? |
| 00:05.39 | Sixen | yup |
| 00:05.47 | ScytheBlade1 | logging over |
| 00:05.52 | Sixen | on an alli char |
| 00:05.52 | Sixen | Elzix |
| 00:06.14 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: your wish is my command: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443 |
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| 00:06.55 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, really? sweet, i LOVE open ended options |
| 00:07.06 | Thunder_Child | also, thanks :) |
| 00:07.12 | Cairenn | you guys may also be interested to know that I have arranged a group rate at another hotel by the convention center, since there's no doubt that they ones blizz arrange will get sold out quick |
| 00:07.29 | Cairenn | the info is in the thread or the news post |
| 00:08.03 | Sixen | Oh? |
| 00:08.07 | Sixen | Cairenn, explain? :X |
| 00:08.10 | sioraiocht | nevcairiel: can I ask you a quick question about german grammar? |
| 00:08.19 | Cairenn | Sixen: it's in the post :p |
| 00:09.25 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, can we bring guests to the dinner, or is it UI Community only? |
| 00:09.37 | Cairenn | it's open, so yes you can |
| 00:10.28 | Cairenn | ditto Disney on Sunday |
| 00:11.36 | Cairenn | bite me! |
| 00:11.38 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 00:11.43 | Cairenn | you guys didn't see it either! |
| 00:11.48 | Thunder_Child | we werent asked |
| 00:11.49 | MentalPower | lol |
| 00:11.49 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [MentalPower!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 00:11.50 | *** join/#wowuidev MentalPower (n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
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| 00:11.55 | MentalPower | ouch! |
| 00:12.00 | MentalPower | :P |
| 00:12.12 | MentalPower | yay! first time in a while that I've gotten kicked :) |
| 00:12.18 | Thunder_Child | guess some people will have to set up a "Cairenn fan club meeting" as well |
| 00:12.33 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [Thunder_Child!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
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| 00:12.52 | Sixen | Awesome Cairenn, =). |
| 00:13.08 | Thunder_Child | oh ya, thats def going on the forum post |
| 00:13.37 | Thunder_Child | oh ya, and we need better pcitures of ass this yeat |
| 00:13.38 | Thunder_Child | year* |
| 00:13.43 | Thunder_Child | pictures* |
| 00:13.44 | ScytheBlade1 | *g* |
| 00:13.48 | MentalPower | no comment |
| 00:13.57 | Cairenn | >< |
| 00:13.57 | Thunder_Child | asses* |
| 00:14.03 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [ScytheBlade1!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 00:14.06 | Thunder_Child | wow...no typeing for me |
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| 00:14.15 | ReAn | Cairenn: What markup is the Changelog field on WoWI ? |
| 00:14.19 | MentalPower | kicks galore! |
| 00:14.24 | Keias | o_O |
| 00:14.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I vote that MP is next |
| 00:14.28 | Cairenn | ReAn: bbcode works fine |
| 00:14.36 | ReAn | awesome |
| 00:14.41 | Thunder_Child | i think Cairenn has /kick $randnick bound somewhere |
| 00:14.43 | Cairenn | not sure about html |
| 00:14.49 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: I was first |
| 00:15.01 | ReAn | is there a bbcode for an indented quote? |
| 00:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: good point |
| 00:15.06 | ReAn | not [quote] |
| 00:15.07 | Thunder_Child | s/$randnick/$randnickpissingmeoff/ |
| 00:15.07 | ReAn | but like |
| 00:15.11 | ReAn | uh... a blockquote |
| 00:15.18 | Lunessa | Cairenn: If you can arrange group rates at the dar, we can skip Disney... |
| 00:15.34 | Cairenn | Lunessa: dar? |
| 00:15.36 | Lunessa | er s/dar/bar |
| 00:15.39 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 00:15.43 | Thunder_Child | figures |
| 00:15.53 | MentalPower | no more drinks for Lunessa |
| 00:16.01 | Thunder_Child | though drunk Lunessa + camera = fun |
| 00:16.09 | Lunessa | No, the correct answer is MORE drinks for lunessa. |
| 00:17.00 | Lunessa | Heh... This is the shot malreth took of me getting my drink on... http://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/2224657032/ |
| 00:17.30 | Thunder_Child | ya, thats drink on, i want a shot of you getting your DRUNK on |
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| 00:17.57 | Kaso | I wouldnt have guessed beard |
| 00:18.34 | Thunder_Child | food porn huh Lunessa? didnt know you were that hard up.... |
| 00:18.43 | Kirov | zomg! Lunessa isn't a girl! My concept of the irc world is smashed! ;) |
| 00:18.47 | Lunessa | Oh man, don't get me started. |
| 00:18.55 | Thunder_Child | ~start Lunessa |
| 00:19.05 | Thunder_Child | and yet again purl fails me |
| 00:19.28 | Thunder_Child | ~start Lunessa |
| 00:19.29 | purl | ACTION gets Lunessa started |
| 00:19.33 | Lunessa | Hey baby, what's your sign? |
| 00:19.46 | MentalPower | ~irc |
| 00:19.47 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 00:19.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yield |
| 00:20.13 | Kirov | ~stop Lunessa |
| 00:20.13 | purl | ACTION leaps to his feet and stops Lunessa |
| 00:20.22 | Xuerian | and purl is no exception. |
| 00:20.30 | Cairenn | Authorized Personnel Only |
| 00:20.37 | Xuerian | Haha |
| 00:20.37 | Kirov | purl is an FBI agent? |
| 00:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ Yield |
| 00:20.43 | ScytheBlade1 | hahaha |
| 00:20.45 | Lunessa | It amuses me to think how many commands are being added to purl's list just to deal with me. ;D |
| 00:21.01 | Kirov | That one already existed |
| 00:21.09 | Thunder_Child | it bothers me how many basic commands purl doesnt have |
| 00:21.23 | Kirov | ~grope Thunder_Child |
| 00:21.24 | purl | ACTION slaps kirov and says "NO!" |
| 00:21.28 | Thunder_Child | HA! |
| 00:21.32 | Keias | lol |
| 00:21.35 | Kirov | See, he has the important ones |
| 00:21.40 | Thunder_Child | she |
| 00:21.45 | Kirov | it |
| 00:21.47 | Thunder_Child | L2gender |
| 00:21.54 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Good answer. I'll have to think of some cheesy lines to use at Blizzcon; it should be good for some laughs... |
| 00:22.00 | Kirov | ~gender purl |
| 00:22.01 | purl | I heard purl is pregnant. |
| 00:22.07 | Esamynn | Kirov: lol, you got burned |
| 00:22.11 | Kirov | ~gender purl |
| 00:22.12 | purl | I heard purl is not sure. |
| 00:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll just spoil this |
| 00:22.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ~literal gender purl |
| 00:22.25 | purl | I heard purl is hermaphroditic. |
| 00:22.30 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 00:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ... not what I was looking for |
| 00:22.33 | Thunder_Child | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:22.34 | purl | ScytheBlade1: FAIL! |
| 00:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ~define gender |
| 00:22.36 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 00:22.36 | Kirov | lol! |
| 00:22.37 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: ahahaha! |
| 00:22.39 | Sixen | Aight, going to eat... Be back later guys. |
| 00:22.40 | ScytheBlade1 | sigh |
| 00:22.42 | Sixen | Thanks for showing me that, sbo. |
| 00:22.43 | Sixen | <3 |
| 00:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ~literal gender |
| 00:22.44 | purl | "gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 00:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | There we go |
| 00:22.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: sure |
| 00:23.25 | Kaso | since when were pregnant and lesbian genders? |
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| 00:23.48 | Thunder_Child | thats what i said way back when....but w/e |
| 00:24.00 | Kaso | i dont pay attention >< |
| 00:24.18 | Thunder_Child | Kaso, no i mean way back when...weeks even months ago |
| 00:24.36 | Lopeppeppy | You've never had a pregnant wife. Trust me, it's a separate gender. |
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| 00:25.00 | Kaso | heh |
| 00:25.17 | Esamynn | Lopeppeppy: O Rly? |
| 00:26.02 | Ackis | what airport is the best to land at for blizcon? |
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| 00:26.12 | Esamynn | Ackis: John Wayne |
| 00:26.34 | Ackis | ugh looking at $672 for a return ticket =/ |
| 00:26.43 | ScytheBlade1 | o_o |
| 00:26.44 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, drive |
| 00:26.53 | Lunessa | http://www.playxpert.com/web/guest/splash - anyone tried this? |
| 00:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | So I hear, Esamynn. Not having experienced it, I find that some will be happier with "pregnant" than "neutered, damn it, go to hell" |
| 00:27.05 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: it's a LONG drive |
| 00:27.15 | Esamynn | Ackis: where are you coming from? |
| 00:27.25 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, gas cheaper than flying? |
| 00:27.27 | Lunessa | Anyone fro Tx want to road trip? |
| 00:27.47 | Ackis | Esamynn: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
| 00:27.51 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, that might be something to post on the forum |
| 00:27.52 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: Probably not :P |
| 00:28.12 | Esamynn | Ackis: is that before or after fees, etc.? ;) |
| 00:28.23 | Ackis | Esamynn: including fees I believe |
| 00:29.04 | Ackis | CAD 1344.38 for two people return w/ all fees and taxes |
| 00:29.38 | Esamynn | $675.12 for me, from Vancouver |
| 00:29.59 | Seerah | we're flying in/out of LAX - was cheaper |
| 00:30.07 | Ackis | how far away is LAX? |
| 00:30.11 | Seerah | little bit further out though |
| 00:30.14 | Ackis | I was in LA once about 12 years ago |
| 00:30.14 | Esamynn | accross town |
| 00:30.54 | Thunder_Child | Ackis, http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=Edmonton,+Alberta,+Canada&daddr=Convention+Center+Entrance,+Anaheim,+Orange,+California+92802,+United+States&mra=pe&mrcr=0&doflg=ptk&sll=43.753728,-115.57073&sspn=22.654132,56.074219&ie=UTF8&ll=43.866218,-110.43457&spn=22.607314,56.074219&z=5 |
| 00:31.01 | Thunder_Child | drive isnt all THAT long... |
| 00:31.02 | Ackis | long url is... long lol |
| 00:31.18 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:31.22 | Thunder_Child | pfft, url is longer than the drive |
| 00:31.32 | Ackis | :P |
| 00:31.37 | ScytheBlade1 | If you do drive, pick me up on your way through Utah ;D |
| 00:31.37 | Lunessa | For going to the Irvine COnvention Center, you probably don't want LAX. :P |
| 00:31.45 | Seerah | figured the extra drive was worth ticket price (granted, we got tickets a couple months ago) |
| 00:32.12 | Lunessa | However, when I was in LA in April, i discovered you can take the train from near LAX to Irvine in about 2 hours. |
| 00:32.13 | Ackis | it was a bit cheaper |
| 00:32.14 | Esamynn | I've been delaying booking my flight until I get a blizzcon ticket |
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| 00:32.37 | Lunessa | And the fares for metro are CHEAP |
| 00:32.50 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, Esamynn. I'm paranoid I won't get my ticket! |
| 00:33.15 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
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| 00:33.19 | Ackis | tickets sell out that fast? |
| 00:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | The nice thing about not going? Not having paranoia concerning tickets ;) |
| 00:33.27 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:33.54 | Ackis | gf and I would like to go, but looking at $2500 for that weekend... well that's crazy talk |
| 00:34.01 | Lopeppeppy | Within 24 hours last time, Ackis |
| 00:34.04 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, bite me |
| 00:34.06 | Ackis | wow crazy |
| 00:34.09 | Thunder_Child | not going is crazy talk Ackis |
| 00:34.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: *sigh* and I can't take you up on that |
| 00:34.19 | Lunessa | DOH! I haven't ordered tickets yet. |
| 00:34.33 | Esamynn | hmm, I could save $170 CND and fly direct, if I flew into LAX |
| 00:34.37 | bleeter | I like the google map instructions for me to get to anahiem, 46.Kayak across the Pacific Ocean |
| 00:34.40 | bleeter | Entering United States (Washington) |
| 00:34.45 | bleeter | 12,724 km |
| 00:34.49 | Esamynn | haha |
| 00:35.02 | Esamynn | Ackis: last time they sold out in 2 days |
| 00:35.02 | ReAn | WOOT! Finished my UI Mod before Black Temple :D |
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| 00:35.27 | Lunessa | Esamynn: You can take the Metro pretty easy. However, you would need to take a bus/cab to the train station since the cab-lobby prevented the metro train from going all the way to LAX. |
| 00:35.28 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:35.41 | Esamynn | Lunessa: O_O |
| 00:35.43 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 00:35.46 | Esamynn | o_O |
| 00:35.51 | Esamynn | oh dear god |
| 00:35.55 | Esamynn | that's so stupid |
| 00:36.23 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Beta opt-in: https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/beta-opt-in.html || Author Key Give-Away! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 | Dragon Kites for authors: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17261 | BlizzCon UI Community Tentative Schedule, and Group Hotel Rates: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthrea |
| 00:36.27 | Cairenn | crap! |
| 00:36.35 | Thunder_Child | lol, ran out of room |
| 00:36.41 | Keias | outplayed by character limits |
| 00:36.44 | Ackis | that url doesn't work for me! |
| 00:36.48 | Ackis | ahhhh |
| 00:37.02 | Esamynn | lol |
| 00:37.06 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, you have an extra || near the begining |
| 00:37.13 | Thunder_Child | dunno how much space you need though |
| 00:37.23 | Esamynn | Lunessa: I'm think I might just spend the extra $170 |
| 00:37.34 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: lotz |
| 00:37.40 | Thunder_Child | ~lart bleeter |
| 00:37.40 | purl | executes killall -KILL bleeter |
| 00:37.42 | *** topic/#WoWUIDev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 2.4.x ToC: 20400 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Author Key Give-Away! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 | Dragon Kites for authors: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17261 |BlizzCon UI Community Tentative Schedule, and Group Hotel Rates: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17443 |
| 00:37.44 | Thunder_Child | yes, now i saw |
| 00:37.46 | Cairenn | there we go |
| 00:37.50 | Esamynn | tough call though, a direct flight would be nice |
| 00:37.52 | Lunessa | Ontario is closer to the site. But I don't know that it has metro access either. |
| 00:38.26 | Lunessa | I'm thinking about driving so that I don't have to rent a car, and so that I can visit people while I'm there. |
| 00:39.07 | Ackis | <-- just did a disney chant in the house, gf is giving me a strange look lol |
| 00:39.17 | Esamynn | LOL |
| 00:39.26 | Thunder_Child | serves you right |
| 00:39.44 | Ackis | I make honking noises when I grab her boobs so she's used to it |
| 00:39.54 | Esamynn | umm |
| 00:39.59 | Esamynn | too much information |
| 00:40.13 | Esamynn | :P |
| 00:40.35 | Thunder_Child | unless she has great big honking boobs anyways.... |
| 00:40.42 | Ackis | :D |
| 00:40.50 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 00:40.50 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Thunder_Child' action |
| 00:41.00 | Thunder_Child | i should stop with the puns |
| 00:41.19 | Gnarfoz | CalendarExport_Data[format_date][ hour..":"..minute ] = {blah = "blah"} <-- this is not valid syntax, is it? |
| 00:41.21 | Lunessa | We joke in guild chat that moonkin just say "honk". |
| 00:41.35 | ScytheBlade1 | {["blah"] = "blah"} |
| 00:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | And it is |
| 00:41.39 | Esamynn | Gnarfoz: it's fine |
| 00:41.56 | bleeter | a different slant to <Honk if you're Hordey>, that's fer sure |
| 00:42.04 | Gnarfoz | hm it's not my code, but it's erroring on me :< |
| 00:42.11 | Esamynn | {blah = "blah"} is equivalent to {["blah"] = "blah"} |
| 00:42.24 | Corrodias | somebody mentioned breasts. i can taste it. |
| 00:42.25 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=9873#comments |
| 00:42.46 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: yes, that's what I'm having a look at |
| 00:42.59 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz, okies |
| 00:43.06 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, you can taste breats? |
| 00:43.14 | Esamynn | $170 cheaper to fly to LAX, hmm, I didn't realize it would make that big a difference |
| 00:43.21 | Corrodias | sadly, no. i can taste conversation about them. |
| 00:43.33 | laeg_ | it's pretty shit that rogues who prefer pvp have to do pve to get the best swords |
| 00:43.38 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias, thats a -1 in the superpower books |
| 00:43.41 | bleeter | Esamynn: cheaper if you get norgs to row for you |
| 00:43.47 | Seerah | yeah, Esa - we saved about $100+ per ticket, too |
| 00:43.50 | Gnarfoz | laeg_: cry more? the best non-legendary swords are pvp :p |
| 00:43.50 | Esamynn | ~lart bleeter |
| 00:43.50 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on bleeter |
| 00:45.00 | bleeter | i just thought if we were passing, i'd get him to drop by and we could kayak pool. fine. be like that, find yer own rower ;) :P |
| 00:45.06 | Esamynn | question is, how much hastle will the metro be? |
| 00:45.17 | Lunessa | Esamynn: There are rarely international flights or major carrier flights to Ontario. Ontario is a "regional" airport and "overflow" |
| 00:45.40 | Esamynn | Ontario, say what? |
| 00:46.02 | Lunessa | When I went from Inglewood to Irvine the trip took about 1.5 hours and cost me $3.00 - I read several chapters of a novel while on the train. |
| 00:46.14 | laeg_ | Gnarfoz :( |
| 00:46.19 | Lunessa | Ontairo airport in Los Angeles. :P |
| 00:47.15 | Esamynn | interesting, never heard of it |
| 00:47.18 | Esamynn | where is it? |
| 00:47.37 | Lunessa | North. Closer to Disney Land / Orange County. |
| 00:47.47 | Cairenn | both times I've flown in, I've got to Santa Anna/John Wayne ( SNA) |
| 00:48.01 | Cairenn | s/got/gone/ |
| 00:48.15 | Lunessa | http://www.lawa.org/ont/ |
| 00:48.16 | Cairenn | it's been the cheapest for me |
| 00:48.23 | Esamynn | Cairenn: yah, that's the first one I priced, then I discovered LAX would be ~170 dollars cheaper |
| 00:48.33 | Cairenn | Esamynn: that's really weird |
| 00:48.40 | Cairenn | it's the other way around for me |
| 00:48.48 | Lunessa | Depends on the carrier. |
| 00:48.56 | Cairenn | and where you are coming from, I presume |
| 00:49.14 | Cairenn | I'm flying in from the NE, Es is going almost directly south |
| 00:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | What's the command to restart the graphics engine? |
| 00:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.48 | Esamynn | Cairenn: heck, if I choose the right flights, I get get it down to $200 cheaper |
| 00:50.49 | clad|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.16 | ScytheBlade1 | clad|sleep: that either nuked it entirely or worked, tell you in a minute. Thanks |
| 00:51.28 | ScytheBlade1 | *** glibc detected *** /home/kyle/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Wrath of the Lich King Beta/Wow.exe: corrupted double-linked list: 0x6a44c108 *** |
| 00:51.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, that's broke |
| 00:52.29 | Esamynn | damnit, but know getting from SNA to the hotel is easy |
| 00:52.41 | Esamynn | I don't know how to do the LAX trip, or how much of a headache it would be |
| 00:52.56 | Esamynn | how much am I willing to pay for peace of mind? ;) |
| 00:53.59 | bleeter | compared to norgs rowing for you? I'd say it's worth it |
| 00:54.21 | Esamynn | ~gag bleeter |
| 00:54.22 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of bleeter and, as an additional precaution, sews bleeter's mouth shut permanently... |
| 00:56.13 | Lunessa | Esamynn: The Metro in LA will plan a route for you for free. :) They want people using their spiffy new multi-billion dollar trains. |
| 00:56.26 | Esamynn | heheheh |
| 00:57.09 | Esamynn | Lunessa: yah, but how much distance is there between the airport and the train, and the hotel and the train? |
| 00:57.21 | Esamynn | Lunessa: got a link handy? |
| 00:57.28 | Esamynn | yes, I'm lazy |
| 00:57.29 | Lunessa | One sec... |
| 00:57.54 | Lunessa | http://www.metro.net/default.asp |
| 00:58.20 | Lunessa | And remember this maxim about Los Angeles, "Only a nobody walks in LA!" |
| 00:58.42 | Esamynn | pfft |
| 01:00.39 | Esamynn | ewww |
| 01:00.43 | Esamynn | 2-3 trip time |
| 01:00.51 | laeg | s4 rogues with nethercobra leg armour are funny |
| 01:01.38 | Esamynn | I'll spend almost as much time on the LA transit system as I will in the air |
| 01:01.46 | Esamynn | 2-3 hour* trip time |
| 01:02.05 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 01:02.17 | Gnarfoz | for self:RegisterEvent("something") to work |
| 01:02.26 | Seerah | there's a shuttle to/from hotel from airport, iirc |
| 01:02.29 | Gnarfoz | what conditions must be given? |
| 01:02.41 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah, usually is, usually expensive, but at least it's reliable |
| 01:02.47 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 01:02.52 | Gnarfoz | I think that CalendarExport addon has some major coding wrongs going on |
| 01:03.05 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Lunessa |
| 01:03.05 | purl | throws Lunessa's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 01:03.11 | Seerah | we figured we'd save $100+ on each plane ticket and spend about $50 for shuttle |
| 01:03.11 | Lopeppeppy | I find them worth the extra cash because they're not some random cabbie screwing you over with a detour. |
| 01:04.10 | Lunessa | Ummm... If I get a ticket, I'll likely drive to LA. Which means.... DUN DUN DUN... I'll have room for 7 in my Checy Equinox. |
| 01:04.19 | Lunessa | Chevy even. |
| 01:04.44 | Lunessa | But I won't drive Thunder_Child - he was mean to my doggie. |
| 01:04.57 | Seerah | would you screw us over with a detour? ;) |
| 01:05.04 | |Jelly| | Jelly imo |
| 01:05.19 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, thats fine, i have my own ride there |
| 01:05.49 | Lunessa | Seerah: Screw you over? No... *wink* |
| 01:06.07 | Lopeppeppy | If we all get in near your time, Lunessa.... |
| 01:06.25 | Lunessa | *wink* |
| 01:06.31 | ReAn | someone wanna explain to me what the difference between a Blue/Green/Red "New!" or "Updated!" next to a UI Mod on WoWI? |
| 01:06.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, you sly dog you. |
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| 01:07.40 | Seerah | ReAn: how many days |
| 01:07.47 | Lunessa | Actually, I'm happy to drive UI folks back and forth to the site while I'm there, just help pay for the ridiculous cost of gas in LA. Or buy me drinks. |
| 01:07.55 | Esamynn | Seerah: hmm, Super Shuttle's web site say it'll take me to the hotel from LAX for $16 |
| 01:07.57 | Lunessa | Gas would probably be cheaper. |
| 01:07.59 | Kaso | ReAn, check out the title text on the icons |
| 01:08.12 | Seerah | Esa: the $50 was just a guess :) |
| 01:08.18 | Esamynn | this is looking more and more like it might be worth it |
| 01:08.29 | Kaso | red=today, green=within 3 days, purple=1 week |
| 01:08.31 | Seerah | we're getting into LAX at @10:30am on Friday |
| 01:08.40 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa, i prefer the drinks, it's more fun |
| 01:08.52 | Seerah | ty, kaso :) |
| 01:09.06 | Lunessa | I'm a fun drunk. Unless your g/f is hot - then you might think I'm a rude drunk. ;) |
| 01:09.50 | Esamynn | Seerah: ummm, you're going to miss some of the convention? |
| 01:09.51 | Lopeppeppy | I'll do drinks AND gas cost if we travel together, Lunessa. I'm generous. |
| 01:10.05 | Seerah | hardly |
| 01:10.23 | Lunessa | Hey, if you can get the time off, and the flights are cheaper... ROAD TRIP. We'll snag Jelly on the way. :) |
| 01:10.28 | Esamynn | the convention is Friday/Saturday |
| 01:10.34 | |Jelly| | hehe |
| 01:10.46 | Seerah | Esa: I work Thursday nights. Didn't want to take off too much time |
| 01:10.50 | Lunessa | But he has to ride on the luggage rack. |
| 01:10.56 | Seerah | there's not much before lunch |
| 01:11.07 | Thunder_Child | Seerah, so sayith you |
| 01:11.10 | Seerah | (taking off Saturday, too) |
| 01:11.42 | Rabbitbunny | when ZONE_CHANGED_INDOORS fires, Where can I get the name of the building? Walking into the Loin's Pride Inn GetSubZoneText() seems to be nil. |
| 01:11.47 | Seerah | *and* I'm skipping out on my choir's big fundraiser auction/banquet/concert thing |
| 01:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | GetZoneText() probably. |
| 01:12.19 | Rabbitbunny | GetRealZoneText() returns Elwynn Forest. |
| 01:12.39 | Seerah | though, if we end up moving before BlizzCon, we'd have to change tickets anyhow and I wouldn't have that job... |
| 01:14.59 | Lunessa | Tigole's humore is good - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537884671&sid=2000 |
| 01:15.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, saw that earlier. |
| 01:16.52 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 01:16.53 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 01:17.14 | Gnarfoz | is that ok for 3.0? |
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| 01:17.51 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: Yeah, stick it in your beta folder and run from there |
| 01:18.57 | Esamynn | yup, I can save $170 on the flight, be sure I have a power plug for my lap top BOTH ways, fly direct, and only have to pay $16 each way for the shuttle service |
| 01:19.05 | Esamynn | I think I'm gonna fly into LAX ;) |
| 01:20.02 | Seerah | when are you looking at getting in, Esa? |
| 01:20.23 | Esamynn | Wed |
| 01:21.03 | Seerah | ah |
| 01:22.55 | Esamynn | anyways, home time |
| 01:22.58 | Duman | whee |
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| 01:23.48 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: do you know if the author of that addon is around here? |
| 01:24.32 | Thunder_Child | not that i am aware of |
| 01:32.43 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: see addon on wowi, I fixed it :) |
| 01:34.54 | Thunder_Child | ok, Gnarfoz, to be honest i dont care about it, i just did it because the author asked for help |
| 01:35.00 | Gnarfoz | ah, hehe |
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| 01:55.18 | |Jelly| | God Peavey pisses me off. |
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| 01:56.49 | Lunessa | Holy hell... beta people are passionate beyond all reason about potion sickness. |
| 01:57.14 | |pez| | potion sickness? 0.o |
| 01:57.29 | kd3 | only one potion while in combat |
| 01:57.34 | kd3 | no matter how long combat lasts |
| 01:57.46 | |pez| | Oh |
| 01:57.50 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. No more chaining my mana pots? |
| 01:57.50 | Lopeppeppy | Damn |
| 01:57.52 | |Jelly| | ouch |
| 01:57.55 | |pez| | that's... gonna be interesting. |
| 01:58.18 | |pez| | If they do something similair on Diablo 3, I'll be screwed. |
| 01:58.22 | Lunessa | First pass of a change, and some people are foaming at the mouth. They went straight to the "FUCK YOU" stage without ever passing the "Perhaps there's a reasonable way to discuss this" phase. |
| 01:58.24 | Tuller | whee, bought a car :P |
| 01:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | They always do, Lunessa. |
| 01:58.34 | Lopeppeppy | Grats, Tuller. |
| 01:58.36 | |pez| | Tuller: wanna buy me one too? |
| 01:58.38 | NightHawkTheSane | if it goes through, it just means content will be designed around that limitation *shrug* |
| 01:58.39 | kd3 | lun; like that's anything new? |
| 01:58.39 | Lunessa | Tuller: Gratz! |
| 01:58.52 | kd3 | meh, I just paid off my mazda3 last month |
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| 01:59.00 | Lunessa | kd3: No, it's not new. Just people never fail to disappoint. |
| 01:59.08 | Drundia | it means people will finally have mana regen instead of some of them requiring to chain mana pots |
| 01:59.16 | kd3 | hopefully |
| 01:59.37 | Shirik | |Jelly|: ping |
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| 02:00.04 | bleeter | no market for mana injectors? damn :( |
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| 02:00.18 | Shirik | why would you sell those? |
| 02:00.29 | NightHawkTheSane | because someone will buy them? |
| 02:00.37 | Shirik | why would I buy them for any more than mana pots? |
| 02:00.45 | Shirik | and since it costs more to make than mana pots... |
| 02:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | because they stack to 20? |
| 02:00.49 | Drundia | to conserve bag space |
| 02:00.53 | Shirik | I can make them myself |
| 02:00.59 | Tuller | kd3: I just bought a mazda3 :P |
| 02:01.01 | Drundia | i make mana pot injectors for some people all the time |
| 02:01.01 | Shirik | Well /I/ can't |
| 02:01.03 | Shirik | but someone can |
| 02:01.09 | kd3 | tuller; grats. I <3 mine |
| 02:01.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: why does anyone sell anything: because someone is willing to buy it. |
| 02:01.29 | Codayus | I love the idea of potion sickness. Well. I love the idea of doing SOMETHING about mana pot chaining, and that's something, anyhow. |
| 02:01.36 | Shirik | imo that's not really something worth buying |
| 02:01.39 | Drundia | true, some people even buy 22-slotters.... |
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| 02:01.50 | Drundia | i mean from other people for more than 1.2k |
| 02:02.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: *shrug* i'd probably agree, given that if you're raiding enough to need that many, you PROBABLY know someone to make them for you, but *shrug* |
| 02:02.19 | Shirik | I guess |
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| 02:02.35 | Shirik | I guess I have it a little easier finding someone |
| 02:02.44 | Drundia | means potions per raid are becoming cheaper than elixirs |
| 02:02.56 | Codayus | I think anyone rational agrees making people chain mana pots is bad. To stop it you either make it pointless (which means nobody ever has mana issues, which means you might as well remove mana from the game), or you make it impossible. |
| 02:02.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i never had any issue obtaining potions or injectors either, but someone might |
| 02:03.13 | Codayus | Making it impossible is the better option. So. Potion sickness. Cool. |
| 02:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: honestly, i agree. but i think if you make it 1 pot/combat, then you've probably got to, simultaneously, make that pot a bit more worth it |
| 02:04.23 | Drundia | i think it would be cool if flasks, elixirs, and potions finally became not stacking with each other (meaning potions too), and then most expensive would be most powerful... |
| 02:04.59 | Corrodias | or maybe if potions were removed from the game...! |
| 02:05.13 | Corrodias | reduce the grind, increase the strategy |
| 02:05.31 | Shirik | Just so I clarify, I use injectors ilke cand |
| 02:05.31 | Lunessa | You would think from some of these posts that if you play the game with less than "Hardcore Raider" mentality you're scum and should be purged from the player base, |
| 02:05.33 | Shirik | candy |
| 02:05.39 | Shirik | I just find them really easy to put together too :P |
| 02:05.53 | Codayus | Maybe. It could certainly be tweaked in a fair number of directions. Cooldowns, effects, debuffs, etc. And a lot depends on gear design, fight design, how the various class based regen skills work out, etc. |
| 02:05.55 | Corrodias | i haven't heard of people describing making potions as actually being -fun- |
| 02:05.59 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, thats not really the case though, Corrodias. "strategy" would just be the encounters/items being adjusted appropriately |
| 02:06.00 | Corrodias | am i wrong? is it fun? |
| 02:06.24 | Codayus | Just because you're a hard core ZOMG RAIDER doesn't make potion chaining good. |
| 02:06.24 | Shirik | Corrodias: In all honesty, there's a lot of strategy in using pots too :P |
| 02:06.25 | Corrodias | of course, NightHawkTheSane, but what i'm saying is that there would be a little more thinking about how it works and less grindgrind chugchug |
| 02:06.28 | Drundia | considering that mana pot benefit is really insane (was it 100 mp5?), which really beats flasks and elixirs by so great amount, they are in the current state too needed |
| 02:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: I wouldn't say fun, but I've never once been "unhappy" at having to have mana pots. |
| 02:06.40 | Corrodias | i have been. or was. |
| 02:06.43 | Codayus | It just means you've GOT to do it if it helps you progress. |
| 02:06.54 | NightHawkTheSane | flasks, yes, fuck flasks. but mana pots have never been an issue for me |
| 02:07.07 | bleeter | hmm, potion sickness sounds odd. i'd rather see diminishing returns. |
| 02:07.07 | Drundia | Codayus, it means you might as well be really unable if you don't |
| 02:07.17 | Corrodias | raiding was only "some fun". raid preparation, the ridiculous grind of obtaining materials, eventually overwhelmed what little fun there was |
| 02:07.31 | Codayus | bleeter: I thought about that, but I don't think it'd have the right effect. |
| 02:07.45 | Corrodias | and by ridiculous, i mean any. spending even an hour a day doing nonsense crap was just... boring |
| 02:07.54 | Drundia | every single mana point may save life kill a boss |
| 02:08.05 | Codayus | It'd be hard to balance; either the diminishing returns hit HARD, so it's not effectively different, or they don't so people STILL chain drink and just don't get as much out of it... |
| 02:08.23 | Codayus | Maybe if the potion cooldown started short and got longer every time you drank a potion... |
| 02:08.43 | Drundia | increasing cooldown sounds fair |
| 02:09.04 | NightHawkTheSane | i kinda made this point obliquely already, but one potion per combat wouldn't be bad, if one potion gave back significantly more mana, instead of ~2.5kish |
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| 02:09.34 | Codayus | NightHawkTheSane: Well, don't forget, a LOT of class changes dealing with cost and regen have either gone through or will go through. |
| 02:09.40 | Codayus | Which changes a lot. |
| 02:09.41 | NightHawkTheSane | true. |
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| 02:10.37 | Codayus | Paladins getting an innervate, disc priests get a mana regen aura, holy priests getting a lot of changes to make them less mana dependent. I think I saw some similar druid changes. |
| 02:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | but regardless, 2.5k mana per boss combat is probably still going to be fairly weak, unless encounters are tuned around it (which may be already so) |
| 02:11.34 | Codayus | Potion sickness is new. May see rebalanced potions before this goes live... And, of course, we can *probably* assume Bliz will balance around whatever mechanics go live. Probably. |
| 02:11.46 | Codayus | (Let's not think about the original state of TBC raiding... :-p) |
| 02:11.48 | bleeter | 'cept for the buggy bits ;) |
| 02:11.50 | Drundia | yet mana costs go up by insane amounts |
| 02:11.53 | |pez| | Probably being the operative word there. |
| 02:12.22 | Drundia | Life Tap DPS of level 70 spells beats Life Tap DPS of level 80 spells, because latter need so much more tapping |
| 02:12.26 | Shirik | ok.... |
| 02:12.31 | Shirik | pro tip |
| 02:12.37 | Shirik | if you apply to our guild and get a trial run as a mage |
| 02:12.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: i think it's a given that, eventually, content will be balanced appropriately given what's available. :p just a matter of when eventually is |
| 02:12.52 | Shirik | When we ask you in the middle of a raid what spec you are, the answer is not "fire arcane frost" |
| 02:13.07 | Shirik | yes, true story, just now -_- |
| 02:13.08 | Corrodias | sure it is, if you specced that way! |
| 02:13.18 | Shirik | he did spec that way... |
| 02:13.20 | Corrodias | unless you actually bothered to inspect him and see what it really is |
| 02:13.21 | Shirik | that's the worst part -_- |
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| 02:13.57 | Corrodias | that's probably an ineffective spec, and i'm pretty sure it's no good for raiding... was he expecting to be raiding at that time? |
| 02:14.07 | Shirik | this is my problem :P |
| 02:14.37 | Corrodias | that, er, doesn't answer the question |
| 02:14.59 | NightHawkTheSane | is that kind of spec goood for anything, really? |
| 02:15.39 | Corrodias | *shrug* fun, if he likes it that way |
| 02:15.41 | Industrial | The real question would be; Why take someone on a raid if you are unsure of what exactly he's going to be doing, and if he has all the required pots/flasks/food/etc ? |
| 02:16.12 | bleeter | a) why did you get him in for trial when you didn't know what spec b) might he have been thinking of respeccing anyway and going to ask for tips? |
| 02:16.14 | Industrial | like, didnt he post his spec in the apply thread :p? |
| 02:17.03 | Corrodias | you DO have an application process, yes? |
| 02:17.06 | bleeter | maybe Shirik looked up armory and thought 'oh, beta armory' |
| 02:17.28 | bleeter | :P |
| 02:17.36 | Corrodias | why am i getting involved... i don't play or care any more |
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| 02:23.09 | kd3 | lol at the mount ui being broken |
| 02:23.15 | kd3 | green textures galore |
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| 02:28.33 | Mumfie | Cairenn, you here? |
| 02:29.15 | Mumfie | Or the smod that banned me, you here? |
| 02:29.54 | Nom- | Anyone here got beta ? |
| 02:30.06 | Cairenn | Mumfie: I am here |
| 02:30.19 | Mumfie | Cairenn: you banned me from the site? |
| 02:30.31 | Cairenn | yeah, you uploaded someone else's mod |
| 02:30.38 | Mumfie | Which in particular? |
| 02:30.59 | Cairenn | excuse me? it doesn't matter which, it's the fact you uploading anyone else's work |
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| 02:31.26 | Mumfie | If you are thinking about p3lim's addon, I got a permission for that |
| 02:31.33 | Mumfie | Hes an IRL mate of me |
| 02:31.33 | Cairenn | I'm not |
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| 02:31.54 | Mumfie | Well, what addon then? Cause Im curious, I just wrote the code off my head. |
| 02:32.17 | Kalroth | You've uploaded so many addons that you aren't sure which one it is? :p |
| 02:32.32 | Mumfie | I uploaded one, and got permbanned on the site for it |
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| 02:32.46 | Cairenn | then obviously it was for that one |
| 02:32.49 | Mumfie | When I wrote the addon a few minutes ago from my head and wowcompares |
| 02:33.11 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6688-HideMainMenuBar.html |
| 02:33.23 | Cairenn | and the fact that what you wrote wouldn't work |
| 02:33.54 | Mumfie | Well I cant bug test it atm cause the EU servers are down |
| 02:34.06 | Cairenn | exact same name and slash commands as that one? |
| 02:34.12 | Tem | I hate black temple |
| 02:34.21 | Mumfie | As what? |
| 02:34.23 | Kalroth | Tem: I'm sure it's not too fond of you either |
| 02:34.33 | Kalroth | Tem: Which boss? :p |
| 02:34.40 | Tem | all of them |
| 02:34.43 | Tem | I hate the whole zone |
| 02:34.50 | Tem | I don't like the atmosphere, I hate the trash |
| 02:34.58 | Kalroth | Oh, you hate farming the place then. :) |
| 02:34.59 | Cairenn | it's not a matter of bug testing ... when something is called "hidemainmenubar.toc.txt" and "hidemainmenubar.lua.txt", how do you expect it to work at all? |
| 02:35.08 | Tem | Kalroth, we're far from farming it |
| 02:35.20 | Kalroth | Personally I like Bloodboil, RoS and uhmm, Illidan I guess. |
| 02:35.21 | Mumfie | Cairenn, crap, stupid windows computers |
| 02:35.26 | Tem | we're currently failing on Na'entus for no good reason |
| 02:35.32 | Tem | Naj* |
| 02:35.47 | Mumfie | Cairenn: that I didnt notice, this is not my own computer |
| 02:35.47 | Arrowmaster | icons not give it away that something was wrong? |
| 02:35.54 | Kalroth | New players? Or old ones that just suck? :) |
| 02:36.05 | Tem | old ones that suck |
| 02:36.11 | Tem | and a little unlucky |
| 02:36.22 | Tem | we just wiped to tank death |
| 02:36.26 | Tem | 3 crushes in 3 seconds |
| 02:36.28 | Cairenn | and the fact it has the same name and slash command? |
| 02:36.29 | Kalroth | >< |
| 02:36.41 | Mumfie | as? |
| 02:36.51 | Kalroth | [04:33] <Cairenn> http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6688-HideMainMenuBar.html |
| 02:36.55 | Cairenn | the one I linked |
| 02:36.55 | Nom- | Can someone try running the following sequence and send me the output, if it's not too much trouble :) CalendarGetEvent(0, X, Y); CalendarGetEventInfo(); <-- replace X with number of days ahead for your next calendar event, and Y with the index of that event |
| 02:37.04 | Nom- | I need the output from the second method |
| 02:37.38 | Mumfie | Id check, but im perm banned |
| 02:37.40 | Mumfie | >_> |
| 02:37.55 | Arrowmaster | logout? |
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| 02:38.18 | Cairenn | ban lifted for now |
| 02:38.19 | Mumfie | Cairenn: I did not actually know there was an addon with the exact same name already |
| 02:38.32 | Mumfie | Cairenn: Did you read the code though? |
| 02:39.12 | Mumfie | Ill come up with a proper name for it:) |
| 02:39.33 | Arrowmaster | did you post it anywhere else? |
| 02:39.42 | Kalroth | And stop using internet explorer as a file manager :P |
| 02:39.42 | Seerah | what was the slash command you used, Mumfie? |
| 02:39.45 | Arrowmaster | kinda interested in comparing the code myself |
| 02:40.33 | Mumfie | same as the addon name |
| 02:40.37 | Mumfie | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.27 | Mumfie | Arrowmaster: I couldnt log out as I was banned (zero access whatsover), and I did not upload it anywhere else, as I said, just wrote it so my friend could pick it up |
| 02:41.43 | Mumfie | then BAM, a permban slapped in my face >_< |
| 02:41.57 | Cairenn | Mumfie: your ban has been lifted as mentioned |
| 02:42.08 | Nom- | Also, I'd like the args from CalendarGetMonth() and CalendarGetDate() so I can decipher the format (apparently they're small numbers instead of full YYYY-MM-DD as I was hoping |
| 02:42.14 | Seerah | Mumfie: post your code here, please: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ |
| 02:42.14 | Mumfie | Cairenn: Yeah, now, thanks |
| 02:42.54 | Mumfie | Seerah: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92728 |
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| 02:43.33 | Mumfie | Its more or less a changed version of what p3lim uses in his unofficial beta addon called pBar, which I had permission to copy from (he is sitting in the next room playing Narutoo on wii :)) |
| 02:43.58 | Mumfie | You can ask him when he gets back if you want |
| 02:44.17 | Rabbitbu1ny | isn't it released under GPL? |
| 02:44.42 | Mumfie | Not really |
| 02:44.56 | Cairenn | mumfie, if it turns out that it wasn't warranted, I'll be the first to apologize, but I'm sure you can appreciate just how insanely busy we are right now and how many people are trying to scam their way into a key |
| 02:44.58 | Kalroth | It's a small addon, much ado about nothing really. It was the dodgey extentions and the existing name that triggered the wrath of Cairenn. :) |
| 02:45.06 | Mumfie | As gcode requires you to use a licence method, he just picked a random one |
| 02:45.29 | Mumfie | Cairenn: Yeah I know all about it, p3lim keep ranting about it earlier tonight |
| 02:46.12 | Cairenn | okay, so, yup, I owe you an apology - Seerah just confirmed they are completely different |
| 02:46.15 | Cairenn | I'm sorry |
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| 02:46.22 | Corrodias | *photograph* |
| 02:46.40 | Cairenn | the ban will remain lifted, feel free to re-upload if you want to |
| 02:46.51 | Seerah | rename it first ;) |
| 02:46.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:46.57 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 02:46.57 | Seerah | different slash command |
| 02:47.01 | Kalroth | oh right, the beta key contenst, suddently everyone's an addon author :) |
| 02:47.06 | Kalroth | contest* |
| 02:47.10 | Cairenn | Kalroth: precisely |
| 02:47.12 | Mumfie | Yeah, ill do so, once I come up with a name (and ofcourse a slashcommand suited for it) |
| 02:47.25 | Cairenn | it's been completely and utterly mad on the site since we announced it |
| 02:47.29 | Seerah | Even MainBarToggle or something like that |
| 02:47.51 | Drundia | you had to tell me about it during TBC beta, maybe i'd have something actually useful by this time... |
| 02:48.26 | Kraps | i need some advice: which interface comp from here http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=104&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=dlcount is good and wont make me tear my hair out? |
| 02:48.43 | Arrowmaster | none |
| 02:48.45 | Mumfie | Seerah: maybe, thats a decent enough name :) |
| 02:48.58 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: really? |
| 02:48.58 | Mumfie | Ill re-upload in a few min |
| 02:49.05 | Kalroth | I'll make KalrothsPowerAddon, it'll contain very useful stuff such as Prince of Bel Air lyrics and two sound files from Terminator 2. |
| 02:49.09 | Arrowmaster | all comps are crap |
| 02:49.13 | Kalroth | Gief key pls |
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| 02:50.18 | Kraps | but i dont know enough about individual addons to look for decent ones |
| 02:53.40 | Sixen | hai |
| 02:53.54 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 02:54.43 | Cairenn | yes, I have a mighty ban hammer and (obviously) I'm not afraid to use it |
| 02:55.05 | MentalPower | :P |
| 02:55.12 | MentalPower | (as we've noticed) |
| 02:55.48 | Cairenn | our tolerance level for people trying to upload other peoples' work right now is basically non-existent |
| 02:55.54 | ANTRat | !points 10 |
| 02:55.54 | Xinhuan | 10 arena points require -18(5s), -11(3s) and -3(2s) team rating. |
| 02:56.01 | ANTRat | idk how arena works |
| 02:56.02 | Mumfie | Imcoming, dont ban me this time :p |
| 02:56.08 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie normal people, I'm headed for bed. 'night! |
| 02:56.14 | Cairenn | any other time we're willing to at least give them a chance to explain themselves |
| 02:56.21 | Cairenn | sweet dreams Lopeppeppy |
| 02:56.36 | MentalPower | night Lopeppeppy |
| 02:58.17 | Seerah | that'll learn him |
| 02:58.22 | Cairenn | yep |
| 02:58.28 | Cairenn | I beat him right some good! |
| 02:58.55 | Nom- | Are most UI functions available when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires ? :/ |
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| 03:01.00 | MentalPower | hmm... I wonder what the longest public domain book is... |
| 03:01.25 | MentalPower | prolly the bible, but that would be kinda weird |
| 03:01.30 | Seerah | Nom-: See "Events that fire during the loading process" on wowwiki |
| 03:01.34 | kd3 | project gutenberg? |
| 03:02.01 | Kraps | with conmos, do i install it before or after other addons, or it doesnt matter? |
| 03:02.09 | Kraps | *cosmos |
| 03:02.28 | Cairenn | shouldn't matter |
| 03:02.56 | Kraps | ok |
| 03:04.16 | Nom- | If someone feels so inlined, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9873-CalendarExport.html <-- please test on beta, i think it's working now :) |
| 03:07.04 | Lunessa | don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more. |
| 03:07.22 | Tem | Lunessa, you're an evil person |
| 03:07.32 | Lunessa | You don't know the half of it. |
| 03:09.07 | Lunessa | I bet half of you are doing a Chris Kattan in your chairs right now... |
| 03:10.01 | kd3 | rofl... we can't hearth back into the instanced version of epl any more after zoning out |
| 03:10.26 | bleeter | kd3: did you break it???!!!!?!?! |
| 03:10.33 | bleeter | AGAIN! |
| 03:10.34 | Duman | hax |
| 03:10.39 | Duman | he's good at breaking things ;) |
| 03:12.27 | Duman | oh snap, ag_uf works for beta? |
| 03:13.08 | Seerah | the version in the WotLK section |
| 03:13.14 | Duman | yes, that's what I mean :) |
| 03:13.14 | Seerah | not sure if it's on wowace |
| 03:13.22 | Duman | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat110.html |
| 03:13.26 | Seerah | yep |
| 03:14.30 | Duman | must test |
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| 03:19.33 | Mumfie | Cya'll |
| 03:19.42 | bleeter | rofl http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9880-IWIN.html |
| 03:19.46 | bleeter | cya Mumfie |
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| 03:21.12 | Rabbitbunny | Okay, connection seems solid again. |
| 03:21.28 | Rabbitbunny | Is there a way to return a unix style timestamp? |
| 03:23.55 | Sixen | (8:12:08 PM) kd3: rofl... we can't hearth back into the instanced version of epl any more after zoning out |
| 03:23.56 | Shirik | > os.time() |
| 03:24.01 | Shirik | lua> os.time() |
| 03:24.02 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1217388241 |
| 03:24.03 | Sixen | The old starting spot? |
| 03:24.06 | Sixen | I hearthed back there. |
| 03:24.11 | Sixen | Acherus~ |
| 03:24.15 | bleeter | some ppl have put a lot of work into their rofl addons, http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw15798_thumb.jpg |
| 03:24.16 | Rabbitbunny | Shirik: Thanks. |
| 03:24.21 | kd3 | make a new dk after yesterday's build |
| 03:24.25 | Sixen | My old DK can |
| 03:24.26 | Shirik | in WoW it would just be time(), not os.time() |
| 03:24.26 | Sixen | ;) |
| 03:24.54 | Rabbitbunny | Cool. |
| 03:25.38 | Lunessa | Wow... that image is FTW |
| 03:25.53 | bleeter | from http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9780-AGT-AutomaticGoblinTherapist.html |
| 03:28.13 | Cairenn | yeah, there are some really good entries |
| 03:28.24 | Cairenn | there are also some that are complete crap, but that's to be expected |
| 03:29.46 | MentalPower | oh wow, |
| 03:29.58 | MentalPower | someone spent a long time on that one |
| 03:32.30 | Yssaril | now that one i will have to get myself :) |
| 03:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | This... file... is tabbed... with SPACES |
| 03:33.31 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.23 | Lunessa | time to go. Later all. |
| 03:41.45 | ckknight | what's the EU server people are going on? |
| 03:42.09 | ckknight | err |
| 03:42.10 | ckknight | US |
| 03:42.13 | ckknight | not sure why I said EU |
| 03:42.16 | Industrial | eu! |
| 03:42.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Northrend, Alliance side, <Secure Templars> |
| 03:42.36 | Industrial | why secure |
| 03:42.36 | Sixen | hai |
| 03:42.37 | Industrial | :p |
| 03:42.53 | Industrial | wouldnt insecure be way funnier? :P |
| 03:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure if we have a horde side |
| 03:42.55 | Drundia | Is UnitCastingInfo() still available for that spell when UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP fires? |
| 03:42.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 03:52.19 | Duman | err, hmm |
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| 04:11.05 | sylvanaar | Tainted Templars |
| 04:11.34 | sylvanaar | maybe that can be horde side |
| 04:11.54 | Shirik | |Jelly|: ping, seq = 2 |
| 04:18.23 | Rabbitbunny | time90's 0 is at epoch right? |
| 04:18.30 | Rabbitbunny | s/90/()/ |
| 04:19.34 | Rabbitbunny | If so, I've been making 0.27 copper an hour since before I was born. |
| 04:20.29 | MentalPower | lua> os.date(os.time(0)) |
| 04:20.30 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'time' (table expected, got number) |
| 04:20.40 | MentalPower | lua> os.date(0) |
| 04:20.40 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0 |
| 04:20.53 | MentalPower | lrntoreadspecs |
| 04:23.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.time("!*t") |
| 04:23.13 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'time' (table expected, got string) |
| 04:23.23 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.time(os.date("!*t")) |
| 04:23.23 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1217391803 |
| 04:23.33 | Arrowmaster | damn im just as bad as MentalPower |
| 04:23.46 | MentalPower | os.date() |
| 04:23.51 | MentalPower | lua> os.date() |
| 04:23.51 | lua_bot | MentalPower: Wed Jul 30 05:23:51 2008 |
| 04:24.00 | MentalPower | lua> os.date("%c") |
| 04:24.01 | lua_bot | MentalPower: Wed Jul 30 05:24:00 2008 |
| 04:24.06 | MentalPower | lua> os.date("%c", 0) |
| 04:24.06 | lua_bot | MentalPower: Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 |
| 04:24.11 | MentalPower | yay! |
| 04:24.20 | MentalPower | Rabbitbunny: ^^^^ |
| 04:24.39 | Arrowmaster | thats off |
| 04:25.18 | MentalPower | depends |
| 04:25.30 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.date("!%c", 0) |
| 04:25.30 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 |
| 04:25.44 | MentalPower | ! is UTC right? |
| 04:25.48 | Rabbitbunny | Ah, so it is. |
| 04:25.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:26.21 | Rabbitbunny | Thanks guys. |
| 04:26.29 | Arrowmaster | luabot is set to GMT for some reason |
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| 04:28.42 | MentalPower | prolly cause thats where its located :P |
| 04:28.48 | MentalPower | its clad's bot |
| 04:28.59 | MentalPower | and clad is in Oxford IIRC |
| 04:29.03 | Cairenn | yep |
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| 04:34.47 | Ackis | ding friendly w/ ravenholdt |
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| 04:39.05 | Duman | whee |
| 04:39.22 | Dashkal | ARepL? |
| 04:41.32 | Ackis | hehe :P |
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| 04:47.56 | Dashkal | Achievements will so be the end of you :p |
| 04:48.13 | Ackis | they already are :( |
| 04:48.17 | Ackis | I'm doig them on live lol |
| 04:48.34 | Dashkal | Between those and the 'Ackis' who logs in from time to time when you're at work, there'll be naught left but dust |
| 04:49.17 | Ackis | heh |
| 04:49.24 | Ackis | she's moving in with me in a month |
| 04:50.20 | Dashkal | Oh you _are_ doomed :p |
| 04:50.27 | Ackis | mmmhmmm |
| 04:50.34 | Ackis | btw, the scan button in arl is fucked, no iudea why |
| 04:51.00 | Dashkal | odd. I haven't used it since I took a snapshot a month or so back |
| 04:51.11 | Ackis | it's not being shown |
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| 04:51.42 | Ackis | I think it was DARKGuy's fault |
| 04:51.48 | DARKGuy | :O |
| 04:51.59 | DARKGuy | Wsn't me! I swear! I don't have the knife! |
| 04:52.11 | Ackis | DARKGuy: have you gotten the latest version of ARL? |
| 04:52.29 | DARKGuy | Ackis: Actually, not yet :( |
| 04:52.35 | DARKGuy | I've been too busy clicking your city |
| 04:52.39 | DARKGuy | and making my WoW look like D3 |
| 04:52.46 | Ackis | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/ |
| 04:52.47 | DARKGuy | and loving Kirov's orbs |
| 04:53.05 | Ackis | ahaha I found the bug |
| 04:53.12 | Ackis | I had skillet running but disabled |
| 04:54.06 | Xuerian | ackis wtf that is raping my browser |
| 04:54.06 | Xuerian | what is it |
| 04:54.38 | Ackis | simcity online but 1000x lamer |
| 04:54.38 | DARKGuy | your browser must be an underage browser then |
| 04:54.40 | DARKGuy | w3m? :P |
| 04:54.45 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ xkcd |
| 04:54.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is oddly deserved |
| 04:55.46 | DARKGuy | man, that's so true |
| 04:56.21 | DARKGuy | I love when people is all "Z0MG LINUX ROCKS" when... well, yeah, it can, but they gotta work a LOT on the UI and devices. |
| 04:56.41 | DARKGuy | Windows just pwns for me. |
| 04:56.52 | batrick | uh... huh? |
| 04:57.16 | Xuerian | on that note, nvidia sucks |
| 04:57.38 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: you think the UI is lame? Go have a look at a kde 4.1 livecd |
| 04:57.50 | DARKGuy | Xuerian: NVIDIA ftw man, screw you! |
| 04:57.52 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 04:57.57 | Xuerian | DARKGuy: Not on linux. |
| 04:57.58 | DARKGuy | oooh 4.1 |
| 04:58.02 | Dashkal | Xuerian: O.o |
| 04:58.06 | DARKGuy | Xuerian: wtf |
| 04:58.15 | Dashkal | nvidia owns ATI on linux. no competition whatsoever |
| 04:58.17 | DARKGuy | it should be the other way around, actually. |
| 04:58.18 | Xuerian | not with a late 8k series card |
| 04:58.21 | Xuerian | :( |
| 04:58.31 | batrick | uh, nvidia video drivers for linux has helped most of us transition to linux without supreme headaches |
| 04:58.37 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 04:58.41 | DARKGuy | 8600GT works on Linux <3 |
| 04:58.57 | Xuerian | Not to mention a nasty xinerama bug |
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| 04:59.48 | batrick | on that note, i've had no device driver or UI problems with linux except for WoW with wine, which I feel is separate |
| 05:00.41 | Nom- | I think I do anyway... framerate is pretty low at times now in normal wow |
| 05:00.58 | Yssaril | anyone know a good mail retrival addon where i can empty my entire mailbox? |
| 05:00.58 | Dashkal | I just watched "Meet the Shiper" |
| 05:01.16 | Nom- | Yssaril: Postal has an 'open all' function |
| 05:01.31 | Dashkal | Nom-: Did you hit opengl and do the registry tweak? Cleared my performance issues right up |
| 05:02.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Yssaril: i'm very fond of BetterInbox |
| 05:02.16 | DARKGuy | batrick: KDE 4 very vista-ish which is cool - Still, the buttons and fonts are huge. A Gnome 2/KDE 4 default screnshot against a Windows XP screenshot at 1024x768 looks like an 800x600 XP screenshot. They really need to fix the damn fonts, button/frame size, and make stuff less complicated than it already is (tons of options, hell, control panel has less options than KDE 3 (haven't seen 4 yet) control center) |
| 05:02.45 | Yssaril | thanks Nom- and NightHawkTheSane will look at both |
| 05:02.47 | DARKGuy | . . . it's still better than Gnome tho :p |
| 05:02.58 | Dashkal | Um, fonts are changed in a few clicks... |
| 05:03.37 | DARKGuy | Yeah but I mean, do you have to change it so it looks good? why not to have it look good at first sight :/ |
| 05:03.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I like the so-called 'confusion' of KDE (3, haven't really messed with 4) |
| 05:03.53 | Dashkal | Define "looks good" in a way that makes everybody happy. GLWT |
| 05:04.00 | Shirik | pop quiz! Druid, dps feral (pretty much soloing) meta gem |
| 05:04.00 | Shirik | gogo |
| 05:04.02 | DARKGuy | Windows's fonts :P |
| 05:04.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I spend two hours configuring it and then realize that I couldn't have anything fill the gaps more perfectly than KDE |
| 05:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: 42 |
| 05:04.23 | Dashkal | Shirik: 25AP / run speed |
| 05:04.28 | Shirik | I was looking at that |
| 05:04.30 | Shirik | is that really the best? |
| 05:04.33 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: apt-get install msttcorefonts |
| 05:04.46 | Dashkal | Shirik: 'best' is subjective, but it's the one I use |
| 05:04.58 | DARKGuy | I only know 1 person, 1 person out of all the people in the world I know, seriously, that use Windows with a "Large fonts" setting, and it's my grandfather. Nobody else who I know has had to change Windows's fonts -ever-. |
| 05:05.26 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: yeah :P, that should be default! :P |
| 05:05.34 | ScytheBlade1 | DARKGuy: I know several who change their size to be much, much larger by default. |
| 05:05.34 | Dashkal | That wouldn't be legal... |
| 05:05.38 | Shirik | what about 12 agi + increased crit damage? |
| 05:05.40 | Sixen | Has anyone done the Frost Wyrm quest in the Beta? |
| 05:05.44 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: yeah sadly :( |
| 05:06.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: no, but it's... one of two quests left for me in the Fjord |
| 05:06.10 | Dashkal | That is certainly an option, Shirik. I like the run speed personally, since it works even when the feral speed buff fails |
| 05:06.11 | DARKGuy | ScytheBlade1: That's good? o.o |
| 05:06.17 | DARKGuy | anywai! |
| 05:06.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: for pure dps, 12 agi + crit damage is your best bet. |
| 05:06.42 | Sixen | Do it sbo! |
| 05:06.45 | Sixen | Apparently the journal changes. |
| 05:06.49 | Dashkal | But still, this is changable, and easily so. If you don't want anything changed at all, might I suggest Mac OSX? |
| 05:06.51 | Sixen | I wanna know what happens! |
| 05:06.51 | ScytheBlade1 | OH |
| 05:06.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That Frost Wyrm |
| 05:06.58 | Shirik | I just realized my cat set has no other gems |
| 05:07.02 | Shirik | no point in getting a meta gem atm |
| 05:07.05 | Dashkal | lol |
| 05:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 05:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I did that on my first DK and... I can't see the journal anymore |
| 05:07.19 | Sixen | :( |
| 05:07.22 | Dashkal | Shirik: oh yeah! The other reason I picked that gem is cause it's so damn easy to satisfy |
| 05:07.24 | Sixen | What do you mean? |
| 05:07.37 | Sixen | Supposedly Cobalt's horse dies.. or something. =o. |
| 05:07.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It disappears once you complete the LHC quest |
| 05:07.43 | Sixen | :( |
| 05:07.50 | Shirik | 2 yellow 1 red; I'll have 1 yellow |
| 05:07.55 | Sixen | Is it a hard quest? What do you have to do? |
| 05:08.01 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 05:08.13 | ScytheBlade1 | You have to fly around, blast people and ballistas with massive frostbolts |
| 05:08.14 | Sixen | Probably not something I can do "real quick"? :/. |
| 05:08.18 | ScytheBlade1 | And eat people to regen your mana |
| 05:08.19 | Sixen | epic. |
| 05:08.22 | ScytheBlade1 | No, it's a fairly lengthy quest |
| 05:08.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Kill 200 humanoids and 15 ballistas |
| 05:08.39 | Sixen | =o |
| 05:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I really think they need to cut the humans down to 100 or so |
| 05:09.21 | Nom- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGbWGs2SRe8 <-- that's not bad :p |
| 05:11.29 | kd3 | it's 150/10 |
| 05:11.35 | kd3 | they nerfed it pretty damn hard |
| 05:12.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah, good |
| 05:12.41 | Sixen | Kd3, have you done the Frost Wyrm quest? |
| 05:12.41 | Sixen | =o |
| 05:12.46 | kd3 | redid it all today |
| 05:12.48 | Sixen | I want to know what the book says, :( |
| 05:12.49 | kd3 | wiki's updated |
| 05:12.58 | kd3 | haven't found the book in question |
| 05:13.28 | Sixen | It's a book called "The Deathknights of Acherus". |
| 05:13.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Make a new DK |
| 05:13.44 | kd3 | that much I know, the question is where |
| 05:13.49 | Sixen | oh |
| 05:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Run straight away from the lich king |
| 05:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on the front left |
| 05:14.02 | Sixen | It's... Next to the guy that gives you the sword so i've been told. |
| 05:14.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That guy moves |
| 05:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Around the entire room |
| 05:14.20 | kd3 | raz, yah |
| 05:16.40 | kd3 | ah, there it is. found it |
| 05:16.51 | Sixen | =O. I don't see you? :x |
| 05:17.06 | kd3 | I'm on lk, my dk on northrend's out of the instance already |
| 05:17.07 | Sixen | Are you on the PvP? |
| 05:17.46 | Sixen | Oh. You made a new one? |
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| 05:22.20 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Death_Knights_of_Acherus |
| 05:23.04 | Sixen | =) |
| 05:23.15 | Sixen | It changes after doing the Frost Wyrm quest |
| 05:23.18 | Sixen | I wanna know what it says :X |
| 05:24.28 | Dashkal | I have got to see that book... |
| 05:25.37 | kd3 | bah, wish I could get back to it... |
| 05:26.45 | Sixen | I wanna see the updated version =/ |
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| 05:39.55 | Nom- | omg the puppy is finally having a nap |
| 05:40.01 | Nom- | been one rather unproductive day |
| 05:50.12 | Sixen | kd3, would it be terrible if I linked my user info to my name in that wowwiki page? |
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| 05:52.42 | kd3 | I'd advise against it |
| 05:55.08 | Sixen | I see. Okey. |
| 05:55.33 | Sixen | :X |
| 06:03.03 | |Jelly| | Shirik: Pong |
| 06:04.09 | Sargeras | Awww why am I not in that book? ;p |
| 06:04.19 | Cairenn | ummm, guys? you may want to really start watching your in-boxes ... I just got a PM that one of the authors who signed up for a key with us got his today |
| 06:04.50 | Arrowmaster | i didnt get mine =( |
| 06:05.07 | Arrowmaster | ive been checking all day |
| 06:05.09 | Cairenn | I find it amazing that he got it this fast |
| 06:05.14 | Cairenn | but /shrug |
| 06:05.22 | Nom- | heh nice |
| 06:05.23 | Dashkal | I was expecting friday. This is good news :D |
| 06:05.40 | Cairenn | Dashkal: yeah, that's when I was expecting as well |
| 06:05.42 | Nom- | maybe blizz does their beta key exports at this time each month |
| 06:05.44 | Arrowmaster | i hope i get mine tomorrow |
| 06:05.46 | Nom- | each week i mean |
| 06:06.08 | Cairenn | I was told they send them out for friday each week |
| 06:06.13 | Cairenn | so this is really strange |
| 06:06.41 | Cairenn | Sargeras: sorry sweetie, not going to be able to make it out to FF |
| 06:06.49 | Sargeras | awwww |
| 06:06.50 | Sargeras | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.53 | Dashkal | mebbe it actually came via another source and he got confused? |
| 06:07.02 | Cairenn | so won't get to see you before BlizzCon |
| 06:07.04 | Nom- | hmm oh well... maybe they won the lottery ? |
| 06:07.04 | Sargeras | its ok |
| 06:07.11 | Sargeras | ohhhhhh |
| 06:07.12 | Sargeras | FF! |
| 06:07.21 | Sargeras | for a second I thought you mean BC |
| 06:07.36 | Sargeras | well, I'm gonna be late to FF too |
| 06:07.38 | Cairenn | Dashkal: he would have known if he was expecting a key from another source |
| 06:07.42 | Dashkal | mmm |
| 06:07.43 | Sargeras | boss denied my time-off |
| 06:07.47 | Dashkal | was a theory anyway |
| 06:07.51 | Cairenn | Sargeras: :( |
| 06:08.10 | Sargeras | I'll be late, but I'll be there |
| 06:08.15 | Sargeras | actually, I gotta talk to Dolby |
| 06:08.37 | Sargeras | ! |
| 06:08.47 | Cairenn | INCOMING!!!! |
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| 06:09.38 | batrick | anybody see any news about ubuntu 8.10? |
| 06:11.28 | batrick | Cairenn: is he sure he got his ticket via the addon author's program or perhaps he got it from that random thing they did? |
| 06:11.43 | Cairenn | (2008-07-30 02:07:31) Cairenn: Dashkal: he would have known if he was expecting a key from another source << |
| 06:12.10 | Cairenn | if he'd used the Opt-In, he would have known that was a possibility |
| 06:14.03 | batrick | ah, sorry I didn't read it all |
| 06:14.04 | batrick | heh |
| 06:14.15 | Rabbitbunny | batrick: like what? |
| 06:14.19 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:14.22 | Rabbitbunny | It's out. it runs. |
| 06:20.58 | batrick | Rabbitbunny: are you talking about my ubuntu 8.10 question? it isn't out yet? |
| 06:21.06 | batrick | comes out in october? |
| 06:22.04 | Nom- | 8.10 as in 2008.10 |
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| 06:24.08 | batrick | !g +40 spellpower weapon enchant |
| 06:24.08 | batbot | batrick: Enchant Weapon - Major Spellpower - Thottbot: World of Warcraft <http://thottbot.com/s27975> |
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| 06:24.44 | Nom- | puppy has declared that the carpet isn't as comfortable as his pillow |
| 06:24.50 | Nom- | so cute >.< |
| 06:29.14 | Rabbitbunny | batrick: ...are they doing that .04/.06 thing again? |
| 06:29.25 | batrick | huh? |
| 06:30.28 | Rabbitbunny | I'm relativly sure I'm running 8.10 right now, Unless you're reminding me that they did 8.04/8.06 or some other goof number first. |
| 06:30.37 | batrick | no |
| 06:30.38 | Rabbitbunny | hmm.. an e goes in there somewhere. |
| 06:30.45 | batrick | they release a version every six monthes, on april and october |
| 06:30.53 | batrick | and their versions are year.month |
| 06:31.03 | batrick | so, 08.04 was the last version |
| 06:31.07 | batrick | next is 08.10 |
| 06:31.16 | Rabbitbunny | Ah, the reason behind the stupid second number... |
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| 06:31.51 | Rabbitbunny | Anyway, I hope it's awesome and they finally fix bulletproofX for 640*480 displays. |
| 06:32.38 | Nom- | ya, ubuntu numbers their releases by release month |
| 06:32.58 | Rabbitbunny | Guess I don't think about months in numerals often enough. |
| 06:33.11 | Rabbitbunny | That never clicked. I've run it since 6.06. |
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| 06:35.18 | Rabbitbunny | ...I know what the first number means now too. |
| 06:38.02 | cncfanatics | someone, where is blizzcon happening again ? :p |
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| 06:43.34 | Dashkal | cncfanatics: http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080729.html |
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| 06:59.51 | Laric | anyone got a good example on how to use ColorSelect? (not using any framework) |
| 07:00.19 | Thunder_Child | odd...i had canceled the recurring payment and stoped my subscription....but it's back to what i had it before. |
| 07:00.35 | Thunder_Child | could it have been reactivated because of wotlk beta? |
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| 07:07.10 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* anyone know how to change the PW of the "temporary blizzard account"? |
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| 07:12.54 | Sargeras | there should be a link for a password reset |
| 07:13.06 | Sargeras | you need the email login, first, and last name |
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| 07:16.11 | Recompense | If anyone's got a minute, I've got code at http://wowuidev.pastey.net/92750-1lst that WoW is saying needs an extra end. I can't find why, and even when I put one in there for WoW to play with, it still says I need more. |
| 07:19.06 | Recompense | Hmm never mind, think I found something... |
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| 07:24.38 | Recompense | Never mind, caught it |
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| 07:32.43 | |Jelly| | Any paladin tanks in here? |
| 07:33.20 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, at one time |
| 07:33.52 | |Jelly| | Any addons that announce shield misses? |
| 07:34.02 | |Jelly| | Tankadin says it does but it doesn't. |
| 07:35.08 | Thunder_Child | shield block, or avengers shield? |
| 07:35.18 | |Jelly| | avenger's shield |
| 07:35.51 | Thunder_Child | not that i know of |
| 07:37.02 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|, pala tank maybe |
| 07:37.08 | Thunder_Child | If your taunt is missed : Warning in say and raid/party ( depends if you are in raid or party) Show the target who is resisted in say and whisp the target of the target to annouce him that your taunt have benn missed. Same way fo Avenger's Shield |
| 07:37.14 | Thunder_Child | palatank* |
| 07:37.20 | cncfanatics | I had a pally in my party who had such an addon |
| 07:37.24 | cncfanatics | didn't ask which one it was though |
| 07:37.30 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8118-Palatank.html |
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| 07:39.24 | Nom- | bleh... tomshardware hasn't done charts on any of the new vid cards |
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| 07:40.55 | Nom- | trying to decide if i should go out and buy a HD4850 for $249 or a 9600GT for similar dollars |
| 07:41.12 | Nom- | or even blow a small fortune on like maybe a GTX260 |
| 07:42.40 | Gnarfoz | hardocp review ftw |
| 07:42.46 | Gnarfoz | tom's hardware blows ;p |
| 07:43.10 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: PalaTank and Tankadin... one's a clone of the other, so I doubt that feature works in one when it doesn't in the other ^^ |
| 07:44.18 | Nom- | the only reason i used toms hardware in the past was for their chargs |
| 07:44.21 | Nom- | *charts |
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| 07:48.23 | Rabbitbunny | lua> local a = 1; local b = 2; for a == 0, a == (a - 1) do echo b end |
| 07:48.24 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: '=' or 'in' expected near '==' |
| 07:48.29 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm. |
| 07:48.40 | Rabbitbunny | lua> local a = 1; local b = 2; for a == 0, a = (a - 1) do echo b end |
| 07:48.41 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: '=' or 'in' expected near '==' |
| 07:49.00 | Industrial | lua> local a = 1; local b = 2; for a = 0, (a - 1) do echo b end |
| 07:49.00 | lua_bot | Industrial: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'b' |
| 07:49.08 | batrick | what are you trying to do? |
| 07:49.15 | Rabbitbunny | I have 5 a's with 16 b's each. |
| 07:49.29 | Rabbitbunny | Get an item link for everything in bags. |
| 07:50.19 | batrick | for i = 1, GetNumBags() do for j = 1, GetNumBagSlots(i) do GetItemLink(...) end end |
| 07:50.22 | batrick | something like that |
| 07:50.26 | batrick | but with the right functions :P |
| 07:50.46 | Rabbitbunny | oh... that's how for works... |
| 07:51.02 | Rabbitbunny | for in lua is odd. |
| 07:52.31 | batrick | Industrial: hm? |
| 07:52.45 | batrick | I dont see why we'd get it at 1:00 am PST |
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| 07:53.59 | cncfanatics | batrick: EU might get some soon |
| 07:54.04 | cncfanatics | its 10am |
| 07:54.14 | cncfanatics | which is a standard starting hour for some offices :p |
| 07:55.27 | cncfanatics | ~seen Dashkal |
| 07:55.29 | purl | dashkal <n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 1h 4m 11s ago, saying: 'wtb working plasma on winXP :p'. |
| 07:55.34 | cncfanatics | god damn |
| 07:57.21 | Industrial | well im F5ing my mail |
| 07:57.22 | Industrial | :p |
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| 07:58.25 | cncfanatics | Industrial: tell me if u get anything |
| 07:58.55 | Gnarfoz | I doubt EU offices have anything to do with mailing the EU keys |
| 07:58.57 | batrick | Gmail auto updates every couple minutes :) |
| 07:59.47 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, were you looking for vid card comparisons? |
| 08:02.07 | Nom- | i was |
| 08:02.09 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-gtx-280,1953-29.html |
| 08:02.16 | Thunder_Child | ya, just found my log file |
| 08:02.40 | Thunder_Child | if it's the new nvidia ones your wondering about anyways |
| 08:03.03 | Nom- | The HD4850 is one i want to see compared tho |
| 08:03.20 | Nom- | That's one cheap card right now, and if it stacks up against similarly priced nvidia cards, i might get it |
| 08:03.59 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, why not just go with the article titled "Best Graphics Cards For The Money: July '08 : Getting The Most Bang For Your Buck " |
| 08:04.34 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, but the best comparison i see is http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4850,1957-25.html anyway |
| 08:04.40 | Nom- | what a convenient article :P |
| 08:04.48 | Thunder_Child | which does compaire it to the top |
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| 08:06.20 | Nom- | hmm yeah that works |
| 08:06.30 | Nom- | so looking @ 9800 for similar performance |
| 08:06.48 | Nom- | which is nearly $100 more |
| 08:06.49 | Nom- | ouchies |
| 08:07.22 | Thunder_Child | i dunno why my card is always left off the charts |
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| 08:08.23 | Nom- | wow... so basically radeon is king of the $200 - $450 bracket |
| 08:08.40 | Nom- | good to know... i'll be off to get a new 4850 then |
| 08:09.23 | Nom- | pity my mobo is nvidia... can't buy two and put them in SLI |
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| 08:12.59 | Thunder_Child | http://www.techarp.com/article/Desktop_GPU_Comparison/nvidia_4_big.png is also a fun chart |
| 08:15.22 | Thunder_Child | ummm...guys...and Cairenn, this is something rather interesting i just came across http://eatabrick.org/2007/07/06 |
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| 08:18.04 | Cairenn | >< |
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| 08:18.23 | batrick | lol |
| 08:18.37 | batrick | He didn't last long |
| 08:18.41 | Cairenn | nope |
| 08:18.46 | Thunder_Child | not at that rate |
| 08:18.53 | krka | haha at todays xkcd |
| 08:19.17 | Thunder_Child | i was trying to see if my wowi sig would show up on google |
| 08:19.48 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 08:19.51 | cncfanatics | Thunder_Child: hilarious :p |
| 08:19.53 | batrick | lmao |
| 08:20.45 | Thunder_Child | well, whatever i can do to liven things up XD |
| 08:20.53 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: how on earth did you happen to come across that? |
| 08:21.08 | Thunder_Child | 01:19.25 Thunder_Child: i was trying to see if my wowi sig would show up on google |
| 08:21.20 | Cairenn | ah, wasn't sure if that was related or not :p |
| 08:21.41 | Thunder_Child | well since i was searching for your name it was kind related |
| 08:22.02 | Cairenn | okay |
| 08:22.10 | Thunder_Child | kinda* |
| 08:22.31 | Tekkub | wow... I just found a 2 year old page on the wiki telling people to use foreachi with tables and to declare a new function every time you call it |
| 08:22.38 | Tekkub | *coughDELETEDcough* |
| 08:22.59 | batrick | get some cough drops tekkub |
| 08:23.25 | Tekkub | *coughcoughscremyoucough* |
| 08:23.26 | cncfanatics | Tekkub: giev ? |
| 08:23.41 | Tekkub | giev wut, soj? |
| 08:23.53 | cncfanatics | the link to that page |
| 08:23.55 | cncfanatics | I wane a laugh |
| 08:23.58 | Tekkub | it's gone |
| 08:24.07 | cncfanatics | well, can still get it from history |
| 08:25.24 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: I find it amusing that they picked this of all channels |
| 08:25.59 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, well it did say a populus channel |
| 08:26.22 | Cairenn | still ... of all the IRC networks out there, that they should pick this particular channel is amusing |
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| 08:27.11 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, seems he/she/it is a wow player |
| 08:27.17 | Thunder_Child | http://eatabrick.org/2007/06/26 |
| 08:27.18 | Cairenn | seems so |
| 08:27.22 | Thunder_Child | that would be a good reason why |
| 08:27.29 | cncfanatics | he/she/it might also be someone that frequents this channel ? :p |
| 08:27.32 | Cairenn | and very possibly a coder |
| 08:27.37 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 08:28.33 | Cairenn | just amused me was all |
| 08:28.50 | Cairenn | I'm easily amused |
| 08:29.11 | cncfanatics | I wonder who it is tbh |
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| 08:45.26 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn, do you not remove site supporter from people who no longer have a permeium membership with allakhazam? |
| 08:45.44 | Cairenn | if they let us know, yes :p |
| 08:46.02 | Thunder_Child | i has been like that now for almost 2 months |
| 08:46.54 | Cairenn | wut, u no luv us nao? |
| 08:47.07 | Thunder_Child | i forgot |
| 08:47.19 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 08:47.57 | Rabbitbunny | æé¢. Get some. |
| 08:48.17 | Thunder_Child | speaking of which, anyone want anything as long as i have my CC out? |
| 08:48.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm, Thunder_Child, a new laptop |
| 08:49.35 | Thunder_Child | me to |
| 08:49.56 | Thunder_Child | a convertable preferably (sp?) |
| 08:49.56 | batbot | Thunder_Child, preferably is correct. |
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| 09:00.10 | Thunder_Child | Rabbitbunny, does that say TESCO? |
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| 09:08.28 | Rabbitbunny | chow mein. |
| 09:12.41 | Xuerian | Thunder_Child: What ikariam world |
| 09:12.48 | Nom- | awesome... new video card installed :D |
| 09:13.00 | Xuerian | Nom-: you suck. What card? |
| 09:13.05 | Nom- | Radeon HD 4850 |
| 09:13.21 | Xuerian | Nice. How's it working??// |
| 09:13.25 | Xuerian | *? |
| 09:13.30 | Nom- | Just installing drivers |
| 09:13.31 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, zeta or whatever |
| 09:13.33 | Nom- | brb reboot again lol |
| 09:14.44 | Thunder_Child | Xuerian, ya, zeta |
| 09:15.07 | Xuerian | yay for bad ripoffs of civ3 |
| 09:15.24 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
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| 09:24.52 | Nom- | There we go... all up & running |
| 09:25.44 | Industri1l | line 70, http://github.com/Industrial/idaddon/tree/master/module/tweaks/panels.lua |
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| 09:25.57 | Industri1l | anyone know why the text of my chatframe is behind chatPanel ? |
| 09:26.27 | Industri1l | eg http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6f65de0773ccd59b49c8dc7b89de03df.jpg |
| 09:29.38 | Nom- | zomg |
| 09:29.46 | Nom- | wow in max quality and settings |
| 09:29.48 | Nom- | and it runs smooth |
| 09:30.40 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, welcome to the rest of us |
| 09:31.01 | cncfanatics | bleh, giev that |
| 09:31.16 | Nom- | ya i left this hardware upgrade far too long |
| 09:31.31 | cncfanatics | mine date's back from 2001 |
| 09:31.37 | cncfanatics | s/'// |
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| 09:33.39 | Xuerian | Nom-: Hay try high-powar wow macro |
| 09:34.15 | Xuerian | Nom-: http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrJjwY59jts |
| 09:41.01 | Nom- | heh |
| 09:41.05 | Nom- | nice |
| 09:45.10 | Thunder_Child | where did he get the command line at the top of the screen? |
| 09:48.36 | Nom- | holding a solid 40fps with all those |
| 09:48.40 | Nom- | Thunder_Child: Start wow with -console |
| 09:49.25 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, thanks |
| 09:52.16 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, what res? |
| 09:52.58 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, also, it looks like it went up since that person did it, farclip max is now 1277 |
| 09:54.02 | Nom- | 1680x1050 |
| 09:54.07 | Nom- | best rez i support |
| 09:54.24 | Nom- | 22" Widescreen, max rez it does :) |
| 09:54.54 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, same exact here |
| 09:57.22 | Thunder_Child | Nom-, same rez, same things maxed out i am doing ~ 30 fps |
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| 10:11.51 | Nom- | hmm i think my realm just died |
| 10:12.43 | cncfanatics | Nom-: YOU crashed it |
| 10:15.21 | Nom- | ugh.. it's just laggy |
| 10:15.27 | Nom- | i might have to try my ISP's WoW proxy |
| 10:15.32 | Nom- | hopefully it'll be less laggy |
| 10:15.38 | cncfanatics | they have a wow proxy ? :o |
| 10:15.44 | Nom- | yea |
| 10:15.46 | cncfanatics | means they have route issues :p |
| 10:16.55 | Nom- | well actually one advantage is that this wow proxy is actually on a different network |
| 10:17.01 | Nom- | My company bought out another company recently |
| 10:17.09 | Nom- | and it's the other company that has the proxy :P |
| 10:18.33 | Nom- | hmm well the latency lies |
| 10:19.01 | Nom- | either that or it's actually much worse |
| 10:20.57 | Nom- | thru the proxy the game is saying 1200ms :/ |
| 10:21.39 | cncfanatics | fail |
| 10:21.50 | cncfanatics | Nom-: try routing all ur traffic through an ssh box |
| 10:21.51 | Nom- | ingame it's not that laggy tho |
| 10:21.56 | cncfanatics | np then :p |
| 10:24.58 | Fisker- | btw cncfanatics are you alliance or horde? |
| 10:25.10 | cncfanatics | horde ofc |
| 10:25.11 | cncfanatics | ally stink |
| 10:25.55 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:25.58 | Fisker- | of horsebutt |
| 10:27.01 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: btw, reroll on magtheridon |
| 10:27.08 | cncfanatics | we need more trolls in the guild |
| 10:40.36 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:40.39 | Fisker- | and i did it cncfanatics |
| 10:40.41 | Fisker- | I WON THE GAME |
| 10:41.20 | cncfanatics | you did what ? |
| 10:41.34 | Fisker- | won the game |
| 10:41.47 | cncfanatics | what game ? |
| 10:42.17 | Fisker- | your mom :( |
| 10:42.32 | cncfanatics | you can't win that |
| 10:42.34 | cncfanatics | only my dad can |
| 10:42.41 | cncfanatics | and you're definatly not my dad, he fails at english |
| 10:42.43 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 10:42.44 | Fisker- | no |
| 10:42.48 | Fisker- | i am your father |
| 10:45.00 | Industrial | i am your mother |
| 10:45.02 | Industrial | no, wait |
| 10:45.54 | Industrial | wtb L50 alts if you have a 70 |
| 10:46.02 | Industrial | I DONT CARE ABOUT AZEROTH |
| 10:46.11 | Industrial | I just want WPL/EPL/BC |
| 10:46.26 | Industrial | skeletons and undeadsies are fun |
| 10:46.29 | Nom- | heh... you'll get that when 3.0 comes out |
| 10:46.36 | Nom- | every man and his dog will roll a deathknight |
| 10:46.45 | Industrial | no, i want a pally |
| 10:46.47 | Nom- | some will play them to 70, others won't |
| 10:46.58 | Industrial | actually |
| 10:47.02 | Industrial | im going enhancement in wotlk |
| 10:47.09 | Industrial | because I think enh will be more viable in arena |
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| 10:47.28 | Industrial | and I will be on par with my gear, instead of starting to raid this years june. |
| 10:47.33 | Nom- | My Windows install is too fubar now |
| 10:47.37 | Industrial | Nom-: easy as pie :D? |
| 10:47.41 | wereHamster | Nom-: try? |
| 10:47.53 | Nom- | And I just upgraded to 4GB memory, so i've now surpassed Windows' support |
| 10:48.11 | zenzio | 32-bit Windows' support |
| 10:48.13 | Nom- | Windows XP Pro supports a max of 3.25GB memory |
| 10:48.14 | Nom- | :P |
| 10:48.22 | Industrial | lol lame |
| 10:48.25 | batrick | damn only 9 days left for the addons gone crazy contest |
| 10:48.31 | Nom- | bah, sif 32-bit zenzio ... 32-bit Linux can run up to 64GB memory |
| 10:48.35 | batrick | it feels like it's only been a week :( |
| 10:48.40 | Nom- | It's because Windows' PAE support sucks |
| 10:49.17 | cncfanatics | s/' PAE support// |
| 10:49.23 | zenzio | Nom-: I didn't say it was a 32-bit limitation, I said it was a 32-bit Windows limitation |
| 10:49.39 | Nom- | Actually, that's not even true :P |
| 10:49.50 | Nom- | 32-bit Windows 2003 Server supports > 4GB |
| 10:50.14 | zenzio | true, but that's the server version |
| 10:50.27 | Nom- | same kernel :P |
| 10:50.36 | Nom- | anyway brb restarting to install Ubuntu 8.04 |
| 10:50.43 | cncfanatics | good girl |
| 10:50.47 | zenzio | same deal with multiple CPUs/cores, they could support 32 on Windows XP, but they choose not to let you |
| 10:51.26 | Industrial | hmm |
| 10:51.30 | Industrial | is boomkin fun at 40? |
| 10:51.42 | Fisker- | duh zenzelezz |
| 10:51.44 | Fisker- | zenzio * |
| 10:51.47 | Industrial | my druid is 37 and kitty is boring |
| 10:52.02 | zenzio | Fisker-: no need to correct yourself, zenzelezz is my home computer |
| 10:52.11 | cncfanatics | Industrial: go balance |
| 10:52.16 | cncfanatics | you can go owl in 3 lvls |
| 10:52.32 | Industrial | that was my question |
| 10:52.35 | Fisker- | i go cncfanatics in 1 lvl |
| 10:52.37 | Industrial | is it fun once you get owl |
| 10:52.45 | Industrial | Fisker-: lol gimped |
| 10:52.55 | Fisker- | i know |
| 10:53.00 | cncfanatics | I rock ! |
| 10:53.02 | Fisker- | but that's what you get for rolling death knight |
| 10:53.12 | Rabbitbunny | heh. OnInit() lastZone = "The Real World" |
| 10:53.20 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 10:53.30 | cncfanatics | Rabbitbunny: what addon ? :p |
| 10:53.39 | Fisker- | rename DK's to Flower Knights and just get done with DnD nerf and replace it with a flourishing area of grass and flowers that heals the enemy |
| 10:53.54 | Rabbitbunny | I'm messing with MoneyFu, Adding per zone tracking. |
| 10:53.59 | Industrial | you rock as much as an icconu cloth wearing armsman that uses a crossbow |
| 10:54.10 | Industrial | in daoc, that is |
| 10:54.18 | Fisker- | i'm your mother Industrial |
| 10:54.22 | Fisker- | fyi |
| 10:54.26 | Industrial | well im your father, Fisker- |
| 10:54.42 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 10:54.44 | Fisker- | good job |
| 10:54.47 | cncfanatics | I rly don't want to know what happened there |
| 10:55.06 | Industrial | Fisker- neither :D |
| 10:59.49 | Fisker- | I CAN FLY cncfanatics |
| 11:00.45 | cncfanatics | I CAN FLY BETTER |
| 11:09.28 | Industrial | so what do i get from moonkin |
| 11:09.37 | Industrial | 400% armor, 5% spellcrit ? |
| 11:10.11 | Industrial | theres no magical ap to spelldamage for druids right? :p |
| 11:13.20 | cncfanatics | out of every AP you get 100 spelldmg per level |
| 11:13.28 | cncfanatics | so, at level 40 thats 4000 spell dmg per AP |
| 11:16.00 | Industrial | you are snerious? |
| 11:16.28 | cncfanatics | WTS brain |
| 11:16.39 | cncfanatics | (thats a no, btw) |
| 11:16.56 | Cairenn | wtb sleep |
| 11:17.59 | Industrial | wtb very important mail :D |
| 11:18.11 | Cairenn | it was a phising mail |
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| 11:19.52 | Industrial | cncfanatics: oh my druid was 39! getting it next level |
| 11:20.02 | Industrial | do I stack pure nature damage as much as possible? |
| 11:20.08 | Industrial | or like arcane for starfire |
| 11:20.12 | cncfanatics | well |
| 11:20.17 | Industrial | NOOO idea how to play this |
| 11:20.17 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:20.22 | cncfanatics | wrath = high dps, low dpm |
| 11:20.27 | cncfanatics | starfire = low dps, high dpm |
| 11:20.31 | cncfanatics | low and high are relative ofc |
| 11:20.32 | Industrial | I dont understand that |
| 11:20.48 | cncfanatics | what is hard to understand about that ? :o |
| 11:20.56 | Industrial | oh per mana |
| 11:21.09 | Industrial | thought per minute |
| 11:21.09 | cncfanatics | ~clap Industrial |
| 11:21.11 | Industrial | :p |
| 11:21.14 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 11:21.35 | cncfanatics | another option is to just instancelevel |
| 11:21.39 | cncfanatics | but that only works decently on a full server |
| 11:23.40 | Industrial | pls |
| 11:23.46 | Industrial | im lfging all day on my resto shaman |
| 11:23.54 | Industrial | as RESTO |
| 11:23.59 | Industrial | i cant get a group for anything |
| 11:24.11 | cncfanatics | lol, I do 3-4 heroics a night on my resto druid |
| 11:24.20 | cncfanatics | and if I heroic a whole day I can end up with 8-9 heroics saved |
| 11:24.58 | Industrial | yes well |
| 11:25.06 | Industrial | cant do heroics with 1200 healing can i |
| 11:25.10 | Industrial | or ZA |
| 11:25.14 | Industrial | I manage kara :p |
| 11:25.38 | Nom- | hmm hokay.. got ubuntu installed now :D |
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| 11:25.40 | cncfanatics | Industrial: yes you can |
| 11:25.41 | Rabbitbunny | I do VC... |
| 11:25.47 | cncfanatics | I got 100 healing more then you -.- |
| 11:25.50 | cncfanatics | and I can finish every heroic |
| 11:25.56 | Industrial | hmm |
| 11:25.58 | Industrial | mgt too? |
| 11:26.05 | cncfanatics | failed miserably at first boss |
| 11:26.13 | cncfanatics | but dps failed to pause dps'ing so they died, so not my fault tbh |
| 11:26.19 | cncfanatics | (only tried once yet) |
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| 11:26.32 | Industrial | ppl wont go mgt normal |
| 11:26.34 | cncfanatics | my server is of the "you need 2k healing to heal a heroic" type, but I often get groups nevertheless |
| 11:26.38 | Industrial | but i need it to do hc :< |
| 11:26.47 | cncfanatics | Industrial: is ur server lowpop ? :( |
| 11:27.02 | Nom- | lol really cncfanatics ? |
| 11:27.06 | Industrial | no, noone is arsed and are all beyond it |
| 11:27.18 | Nom- | I used to heal heroics with like 900 +heal |
| 11:27.20 | Nom- | as a resto druid |
| 11:27.28 | Industrial | they laugh at me :< |
| 11:27.28 | cncfanatics | Nom-:yea, same here |
| 11:27.33 | cncfanatics | I just started out with guildies |
| 11:27.41 | cncfanatics | Industrial: get a guild :p |
| 11:27.48 | Industrial | i do, noone wants to go lol |
| 11:27.52 | cncfanatics | I got like 4 people from my guild to run ubrs the beast with me yesterday :p |
| 11:27.54 | Nom- | Yeah, you know why they do that... they want to go quick and minimize risk of wipes |
| 11:28.02 | Industrial | yup |
| 11:28.15 | Industrial | just farm badges, the gear is shit to them |
| 11:28.16 | Industrial | de all |
| 11:28.24 | Industrial | its upgrades for me tho :( |
| 11:28.30 | cncfanatics | Industrial: whats the pop of ur server ? |
| 11:28.36 | cncfanatics | if its that bad, get crafted gear |
| 11:28.40 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/Xamth |
| 11:28.59 | Industrial | ive got kara/mag/gruul gear actually |
| 11:29.06 | Industrial | just need a kickass MH and pants |
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| 11:29.21 | Industrial | i grinded the mats for enchants (omg 18 primal lifes T_T) |
| 11:29.25 | Industrial | just need gear for it lol |
| 11:30.17 | cncfanatics | ur WAY better geared then me :p |
| 11:30.21 | cncfanatics | and I can get parties all day long |
| 11:30.58 | Industrial | i wont care once i get into beta |
| 11:31.03 | cncfanatics | :D |
| 11:31.08 | Industrial | just go enhancement in wotlk |
| 11:31.10 | cncfanatics | I will |
| 11:31.14 | cncfanatics | sec, let me link my gear |
| 11:31.15 | cncfanatics | it sucks |
| 11:31.33 | Nom- | yay for being able to use NFS again |
| 11:31.44 | Nom- | I'm tempted to put WoW on an NFS mount |
| 11:31.55 | cncfanatics | armory down -.- |
| 11:33.13 | cncfanatics | NFS , whats that again ? |
| 11:33.18 | Nom- | Network File System |
| 11:33.36 | Nom- | GigE to server with RAID array faster than local disk |
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| 11:43.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont suggest it |
| 11:44.29 | Arrowmaster | if wow has any trouble reading from the WTF it will just assume the file doesnt exist and then save over it with a new file on exit |
| 11:44.58 | Arrowmaster | lost my bindings and macros a lot due to that |
| 11:45.36 | Nom- | oh i could store settings locally |
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| 12:04.03 | Adys | Google is failing me |
| 12:04.17 | Adys | all the info about GUIDs im googling is returning "guides" and "guilds" |
| 12:04.54 | cncfanatics | Adys: there ain't much info to fine rly |
| 12:04.59 | cncfanatics | what do you need to know ? |
| 12:05.07 | Adys | wasnt there a way to get a npc's level from it? |
| 12:05.31 | Nom- | 51000 fps on glxgears |
| 12:05.35 | Nom- | I think it's working now :D |
| 12:06.20 | cncfanatics | Adys: don't think so |
| 12:06.29 | cncfanatics | just make a table that stores guid = level when you meet it |
| 12:06.57 | Adys | umm |
| 12:07.31 | Adys | pretty sure there was a way to do so... hm |
| 12:08.14 | cncfanatics | well, it might be I just don't know it |
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| 12:18.20 | Rabbitbunny | Sweet. |
| 12:18.36 | Rabbitbunny | It works, Just did VC with no errors. |
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| 12:25.26 | Nom- | hmm wow is doing a whacky corrupt display when i try and launch it :( |
| 12:26.11 | Nom- | even in window mode |
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| 12:28.39 | cncfanatics | ~fail Nom- |
| 12:28.40 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Nom-. I hate you because you fail. |
| 12:29.50 | Nom- | Indeed. |
| 12:32.04 | starlon | ~fail Starlon |
| 12:32.05 | purl | Starlon, you Fail! |
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| 12:32.29 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail starlon |
| 12:32.30 | purl | starlon, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you starlon, you are that epic failure. |
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| 12:32.46 | cncfanatics | I just love that one :p |
| 12:32.51 | cncfanatics | ~failure |
| 12:32.51 | purl | failure is, like, always an option, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784521764&pageNo=1&sid=1#15 |
| 12:32.55 | cncfanatics | also, the link in this one is damn good too |
| 12:32.59 | cncfanatics | (its a blue owning some idiot) |
| 12:37.13 | Cairenn | I laughed my ass off this time too, reading it, the same as the first time |
| 12:37.44 | Cairenn | he is so majorly owned by the gm |
| 12:37.50 | Cairenn | errr, CSR |
| 12:38.15 | cncfanatics | CSR ? |
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| 12:38.29 | Cairenn | customer service rep |
| 12:39.17 | starlon | lol |
| 12:39.19 | starlon | that was great |
| 12:39.21 | Fisker- | CSR = GM |
| 12:39.27 | Cairenn | no |
| 12:39.45 | Cairenn | GM = in-game, CSR can be either in or out |
| 12:40.51 | cncfanatics | that guy is majorly good at owning |
| 12:41.19 | Fisker- | narr |
| 12:41.26 | Fisker- | because all GM's are CSR's |
| 12:41.36 | Fisker- | some just have gotten a position to post on the forum |
| 12:41.40 | Fisker- | atleast that's how it is on EU |
| 12:41.43 | Cairenn | but not all CSRs are GMs |
| 12:41.47 | Cairenn | that was my point :p |
| 12:42.30 | Cairenn | apples are all fruit, but not all fruit are apples :p |
| 12:42.35 | Fisker- | he was owned |
| 12:42.36 | Fisker- | :o |
| 12:43.03 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: yea, badly |
| 12:43.24 | wereHamster | how much does blizzard save? All the logs / chat / movements? And for how long do they keep the data? Just the last month or since the character has been created? |
| 12:43.40 | Rabbitbunny | iirc, 180days. |
| 12:43.49 | wereHamster | Just 'wow' at how much blizzard knows about him |
| 12:44.01 | wereHamster | or, well, any other player |
| 12:44.26 | Rabbitbunny | Definatly chat logs., Not sure about movement... That would be useful in catching Glider and speed hacking though. |
| 12:44.39 | Adys | they do keep movements |
| 12:44.43 | Fisker- | it depends on what kind of information |
| 12:44.47 | Adys | not accurate stuff, but zoning etc |
| 12:45.02 | Nom- | hmm this really doesn't want to run under wine |
| 12:45.19 | Adys | graphic card Nom- ? |
| 12:46.51 | Nom- | ATI HD 4850 |
| 12:47.45 | cncfanatics | wereHamster: I'd say they keep it a year or so |
| 12:48.05 | Industrial | cncfanatics: so i killed 1 mob |
| 12:48.07 | wereHamster | Nom-: iik, ati == crap |
| 12:48.11 | Industrial | 100% mana depleted |
| 12:48.17 | cncfanatics | Industrial: rofl ? :o |
| 12:48.22 | cncfanatics | should be able to root kill quite easy |
| 12:48.29 | cncfanatics | got some caster gear ? |
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| 12:50.23 | Nom- | hmm quake 3 is fubar too.. so it's not just WoW |
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| 12:51.47 | AffenKatzen | Anyone who can help me in changing the alpha of a center icon @ grid? |
| 12:52.34 | AffenKatzen | Frame->Center Icon->[x]Earth Shield and then I want it like faded out as if he was oor |
| 12:52.46 | AffenKatzen | (Please highlight me if you respond :>) |
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| 12:55.21 | Nom- | heh it may be a wine bug...the problem i'm seeing |
| 12:55.32 | Nom- | someone has the same problem, and installed cedega fixed it |
| 12:55.43 | wereHamster | what are the symptoms? |
| 12:55.48 | Adys | Nom-: ATI drivers suck ass |
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| 12:57.08 | Adys | [15:47:45] <cncfanatics> wereHamster: I'd say they keep it a year or so |
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| 12:57.12 | Adys | sort of. |
| 12:57.28 | Adys | depends what, some heavy stuff gets deleted after a month |
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| 12:57.37 | Adys | more important things dont get deleted |
| 12:57.43 | wereHamster | what's heavy? chat? |
| 12:58.05 | Adys | all the zoning, sales/buys etc |
| 12:58.41 | Adys | though they may keep some of this stuff "on the sides" for statistics or whatever alike, no idea |
| 12:59.50 | cncfanatics | Adys: they got his buy & zoning log back after 2 months ? |
| 13:00.05 | Adys | looks like it yes |
| 13:00.46 | Adys | I dont know what and when things get deleted, i just know some stuff is kept forever and some is deleted faster :) |
| 13:01.28 | Fisker- | items are deleted after about 2 months |
| 13:01.36 | Fisker- | i.e. buy and sell etc. |
| 13:01.36 | cncfanatics | doub it |
| 13:01.43 | Fisker- | cncfanatics i know it |
| 13:01.44 | cncfanatics | I'd say stuff is archived after a few months |
| 13:01.51 | Fisker- | that may be |
| 13:01.59 | Fisker- | but they are considered beyond reach after 2 months |
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| 13:02.09 | cncfanatics | cuz, I got an item back I deleted much more then 2 months ago |
| 13:02.35 | Fisker- | Was it a quest item? |
| 13:02.43 | cncfanatics | a token item |
| 13:02.51 | cncfanatics | dunno if those are special |
| 13:02.57 | Fisker- | They shouldn't |
| 13:03.02 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes you do. Sometimes you don't. The main thing is don't rely on it, 'cause the gods of data work in mysterious ways. |
| 13:03.17 | Fisker- | yeag |
| 13:03.19 | Fisker- | yeah* |
| 13:03.32 | Fisker- | But they do also prioritise some data |
| 13:03.44 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: tbh, I think it also depends on the mood of the GM |
| 13:03.53 | Fisker- | for example a deleted level 1 character will much sooner be purged from the logs than a level 60 will |
| 13:04.19 | Fisker- | so it's very possible that they may do the same for epic items vs. common items |
| 13:04.27 | Fisker- | but the general rule of thumb is 2 months |
| 13:04.48 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: don't forget the GM's mood |
| 13:04.54 | cncfanatics | and how close it is to closing hours |
| 13:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | cncfanatics, I don't doubt in the slightest that it depends on the particular GM. They're human too. |
| 13:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | It also depends on how many other things you've "accidentally deleted" in the past, etc etc. |
| 13:05.16 | cncfanatics | I work at a callcenter, and I am much less inclined to help someone when helping him might cause me to miss my train :p |
| 13:08.27 | Lopeppeppy | We am hooo-manz. It happens. I return calls more slowly from my bitchy sheeple than from my sincerely confused sheeple. |
| 13:09.07 | cncfanatics | idd |
| 13:10.09 | wereHamster | Lopeppeppy: GMs are humans? Really? Are you sure? |
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| 13:11.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm so sincerely certain that I would make bets on the reality of the humanity. |
| 13:11.33 | Lopeppeppy | It's the MVP's who aren't human, hello. |
| 13:11.41 | cncfanatics | MVP being ? |
| 13:11.55 | alestane | We're more.... <spooky reverb> |
| 13:12.08 | Lopeppeppy | We're... more toothy and hungry. *low soft growl* |
| 13:12.15 | pb_ee1 | cncfanatics: Most Valuable Poster |
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| 13:13.04 | cncfanatics | oh, the greens ? |
| 13:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | The naturals. *sniff* (Yes, the greens) |
| 13:14.33 | |Jelly| | AH HA! |
| 13:14.36 | |Jelly| | I DIDS IT! |
| 13:14.47 | Rabbitbunny | a backflip?!?! |
| 13:14.57 | |Jelly| | No. Wrote an addon to announce when my shield misses. |
| 13:15.05 | |Jelly| | ...since, you know, I couldn't find one that did. |
| 13:15.34 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 13:15.39 | cncfanatics | |Jelly| wrote an addon ? |
| 13:15.52 | batrick | it's a compilation of one |
| 13:15.55 | |Jelly| | Errm ... Jelly's written a couple. |
| 13:16.21 | cncfanatics | I know :) |
| 13:16.24 | cncfanatics | just teasing you :D |
| 13:16.25 | |Jelly| | Generally speaking, they're well ... only things I need so I don't talk about them. :P |
| 13:19.51 | cncfanatics | hmm, there's lots of regulars here I never heard the addons of :p |
| 13:19.58 | cncfanatics | Fisker- being one of them :D |
| 13:20.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:20.15 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy too :p |
| 13:20.24 | cncfanatics | (not that I'm relating Lopeppeppy to Fisker-) |
| 13:20.52 | |Jelly| | tox changes take a restart, right? |
| 13:20.57 | |Jelly| | s/tox/toc/ |
| 13:21.27 | wereHamster | yes |
| 13:21.52 | Rabbitbunny | lua> t = { ["Head"] = "HeadSpot", ["Feet"] = "Footspot" } for key, value in pairs{t} do print key.." - "..value end |
| 13:21.53 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'key' |
| 13:21.54 | cbreak | some files get read before login, to populate the addon dialog |
| 13:22.03 | Rabbitbunny | Am I making the table wrong or thge recursion? |
| 13:22.18 | Lopeppeppy | cncfanatics, the secret is that I am not a programmer. I'm starting to learn lua, but I don't code. :) I'm the customer-service dinosaur. With a big toothy smile to back it up. |
| 13:22.19 | wereHamster | print(key..value) |
| 13:22.30 | wereHamster | pairs(t) |
| 13:22.47 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: learn lua faster :p |
| 13:22.49 | wereHamster | pairs{t} is the same as pairs({t}) |
| 13:22.55 | cncfanatics | its easy |
| 13:23.04 | wereHamster | so it'll iterate over a table with one entry, 't' |
| 13:23.09 | cncfanatics | (I'm not a programmer either, for the record, at least not yet, starting studies for it in sept) |
| 13:23.10 | Lopeppeppy | cncfanatics, come do my full time job for me so that I can study in my copious spare time? :P |
| 13:23.23 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: what job & what location ? :p |
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| 13:23.44 | Rabbitbunny | lua> t = { ["Head"] = "HeadSpot", ["Feet"] = "Footspot" } for key, value in pairs(t) do print(key..value) end |
| 13:23.44 | lua_bot | Rabbitbunny: FeetFootspot, HeadHeadSpot |
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| 13:24.09 | Lopeppeppy | tech support, middle of eastern new york |
| 13:24.21 | Rabbitbunny | I'm been messing with that for an hour. Can't find the 'noobs guide to tables'. |
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| 13:24.24 | Rabbitbunny | wereHamster: Thanks. |
| 13:24.49 | cbreak | the lua manual contains a complete syntax description |
| 13:24.57 | malreth | my favorite coffee place has re-opened under new management |
| 13:25.16 | malreth | all coffee is pressed, the barista manually pulls the shots |
| 13:25.30 | malreth | coffee is a skill to be practiced |
| 13:25.39 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: if you pay me a ticket from zaventem to new york, sure, I always wanted to do new york and I'm ready to even work a few months for that :p |
| 13:25.50 | cncfanatics | s/do new york/see new york/ |
| 13:25.56 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm... I always hated the Cafina machines. I liked my manual better. |
| 13:26.09 | Lopeppeppy | cncfanatics, I think you misunderstand. I'm no where near new york city. |
| 13:26.41 | malreth | Rabbitbunny: http://www.lua.org/pil/2.5.html |
| 13:27.06 | malreth | Rabbitbunny: aaaaand... http://www.lua.org/pil/11.html |
| 13:27.09 | cncfanatics | Lopeppeppy: oh, not the city but the eh, how do they call that again ? province ? |
| 13:27.20 | Lopeppeppy | State. |
| 13:27.24 | cncfanatics | state :) |
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| 13:27.53 | Lopeppeppy | What do you think there is to "do" here? *laugh* We have a lovely and very wild park, if you care to canoe around or hike it. |
| 13:27.54 | malreth | that online book is sadly out of date, but the general concepts still apply even in lua 5.1 |
| 13:28.53 | cncfanatics | I love canoe'ing :p |
| 13:29.06 | cncfanatics | ~x fr en escrime |
| 13:29.20 | cncfanatics | also fencing, if the traduction from purl is correct |
| 13:29.32 | cncfanatics | though I haven't done either in ages :( |
| 13:29.52 | Lopeppeppy | Fencing = sparring with epee and gear, touch-point system, etc. |
| 13:30.16 | Lopeppeppy | You could fence with a few of the shelter pines, they always love to poke out eyes. |
| 13:30.24 | Rabbitbunny | malreth: Sweet. Thanks. |
| 13:31.49 | Lopeppeppy | brb, sheeple attack.... |
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| 13:50.30 | Atriace | ~ping |
| 13:50.31 | purl | pong |
| 13:50.39 | pb_ee1 | ~pong |
| 13:50.40 | purl | ping |
| 13:51.01 | Josh_Borke | ping |
| 13:51.06 | pb_ee1 | pong |
| 13:52.17 | cncfanatics | ~pong pong |
| 13:52.18 | purl | pong: PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:55.48 | Josh_Borke | ~ping purl |
| 13:55.49 | purl | pong purl |
| 13:56.41 | ReAn | Someone do me a favour? I've tested my mod on a number of machines standalone and alongside other mods, it works fine, but I have a user saying it spouts 342342 errors on load. Can someone download http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=9565 and let me know if they have any issues running it. Im trying to detrimine if that guy just had some other mod that's causing trouble or if there's a legitimate problem |
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| 13:59.42 | Drundia | 342342 errors. ha! sounds like a joke really |
| 14:00.03 | haste | get the person to post the errors? |
| 14:00.27 | ReAn | i asked him to send me a copy of his FrameXML.log, im thinking somethings borky in the main block |
| 14:00.33 | ReAn | i.e. broken mod fucking w/ stuff |
| 14:00.47 | ReAn | causing one big nasty ass syntax error chain |
| 14:00.50 | ReAn | i've seen it before >_> |
| 14:01.06 | haste | can't be a syntax error? |
| 14:01.13 | haste | unless you use loadstring |
| 14:01.59 | ReAn | haste: it loads fine on 2 different computers running 2 different versions of windows with other mods AND standalone |
| 14:02.02 | amro | is there a way to change a frame's parent at runtime? |
| 14:02.17 | ReAn | amro: frame:SetParent(newParent); |
| 14:02.26 | haste | ReAn: still not a syntax error :p |
| 14:02.38 | ReAn | haste: you got a syntax error? |
| 14:02.51 | haste | no never! |
| 14:02.57 | haste | my code is always perfect |
| 14:03.02 | amro | lol |
| 14:03.16 | ReAn | i meant you got one while running my mod? |
| 14:03.24 | haste | I don't run you mod |
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| 14:03.39 | haste | I can test your code for syntax erros ofct |
| 14:03.43 | haste | without WoW |
| 14:04.13 | amro | if it worked for you, it can't be a syntax error |
| 14:04.17 | amro | unless you packaged a different file |
| 14:04.36 | ReAn | amro: i downloaded the file i uploaded to WoWI on a fresh comp and ran it |
| 14:04.42 | ReAn | http://images.reanmachine.com/wow/BattleBar-FreshComp-Working.jpg |
| 14:04.44 | ReAn | working fine |
| 14:05.08 | haste | and you have an error somewhere |
| 14:05.28 | ReAn | you checked my mod for syntax haste? or are you just assuming it? |
| 14:05.37 | haste | the person used bugsack, so the errors are saved per session |
| 14:05.42 | haste | shrugs |
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| 14:06.04 | haste | I'll check your mod for syntax errors, but it ISN'T the issue |
| 14:06.13 | amro | not sure if you got it, 15:05 < amro> your friend must have screwed up when installing. in any case ask him to disable all other addons and test first |
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| 14:06.34 | ReAn | my FrameXML.log indicates nothing serious >_> |
| 14:06.43 | ReAn | no errors on load here |
| 14:06.48 | haste | why would yours? |
| 14:06.55 | haste | you aren't seeing any |
| 14:07.00 | haste | he/she is however |
| 14:07.25 | ReAn | that's why im convinced HE has a syntax error in something ELSE that's throwing my mod for a loop |
| 14:07.40 | amro | that's why I said he should try without other addons |
| 14:08.16 | ReAn | that's what i told him to do |
| 14:08.31 | haste | gz ReAn, your files are valid Lua! |
| 14:08.34 | haste | amazing |
| 14:08.39 | ReAn | im gonna put a new version up w/ a correct TOC Version, that's the only thing wrong i just noticed |
| 14:08.39 | amro | lol |
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| 14:08.44 | haste | now find the error in your code |
| 14:09.07 | haste | TOC version don't create errors btw |
| 14:09.13 | ReAn | i know |
| 14:09.14 | ReAn | but |
| 14:09.25 | ReAn | i might as well so people dont get issues with it showing up as "Out of Date" |
| 14:09.32 | haste | get the bugsack logs from the person |
| 14:09.52 | haste | then you will actually have something to go on |
| 14:10.21 | haste | but it does sound like an error in a OnUpdate, based on the number |
| 14:11.13 | ReAn | i still think it's some other mod w/ a missing {, }, (, ), ", ', then, else, end |
| 14:11.22 | ReAn | that's throwing the entire main chunk for a loop |
| 14:11.38 | haste | that will generate one error per mod |
| 14:11.59 | ReAn | one error... but by doing so, it also causes BB to not be created |
| 14:12.03 | ReAn | so anything that links BB |
| 14:12.07 | ReAn | gets fucked |
| 14:12.19 | haste | unless the mod is split into several files, and attmepting to access elements that don't load due to the syntax error |
| 14:12.20 | ReAn | i've seen it before |
| 14:12.29 | ReAn | and yes haste, it is |
| 14:12.34 | ReAn | Gui.lua is all the gui elements |
| 14:12.40 | ReAn | it extends the BB AddonObject |
| 14:12.43 | haste | BUT |
| 14:12.53 | haste | your lua files don't have any syntax errors |
| 14:12.59 | ReAn | exactly |
| 14:13.03 | ReAn | it's one of his mods |
| 14:13.08 | ReAn | im sure of it |
| 14:13.23 | haste | so it's a) a error in your code, b) your xml file c) another mod |
| 14:13.39 | ReAn | yes, and that's why i asked if someone would give my mod a try |
| 14:13.48 | ReAn | because if they dont get the errors |
| 14:13.50 | haste | your code isn't perfect, stop believing it is |
| 14:13.53 | ReAn | then it's more likely to be c) |
| 14:13.55 | ReAn | im not |
| 14:13.59 | haste | you are |
| 14:14.05 | ReAn | im just saying, it's more likely to be something else |
| 14:14.07 | ReAn | but |
| 14:14.13 | ReAn | i can't tell unless i see it happen |
| 14:14.22 | Josh_Borke | ReAn: just get the bugs from the user and go from there |
| 14:14.27 | ReAn | something tells me this guy is just a drive-by commenter |
| 14:14.30 | ReAn | and wont respond |
| 14:14.37 | haste | then ask for the errors from the bug sack |
| 14:14.39 | Josh_Borke | have you asked for his response? |
| 14:14.43 | ReAn | i have |
| 14:14.46 | ReAn | and waiting |
| 14:14.54 | Josh_Borke | then just audit your own code in the meantime |
| 14:15.14 | haste | I don't see a comment from you however |
| 14:15.22 | Josh_Borke | i agree with haste in that it is probably an onupdate problem |
| 14:16.23 | Josh_Borke | it could quite possibly be you trying to use a variable that is accidently a global that is clobbered by another addon |
| 14:16.32 | ReAn | i = Voorije |
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| 14:38.07 | Nom- | lol i hate NTFS |
| 14:38.18 | Nom- | 30% fragmentation on the drive with all my games |
| 14:38.25 | amro | join the club Nom- |
| 14:39.11 | amro | I put my games on ext3 :) |
| 14:39.39 | Nom- | Yeah... I was gunna run linux, but ATI drivers suck on Linux |
| 14:39.42 | Nom- | they seem OK on Windows |
| 14:39.57 | amro | after an upgrade I can't play games on linux |
| 14:40.06 | amro | so I run them from windows off my ext3 drive |
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| 14:40.20 | Nom- | nice... what do you use to mount an ext3 partition ? |
| 14:40.28 | amro | http://www.fs-driver.org |
| 14:40.36 | Nom- | I'd totally use that... ext3 is far superior to ntfs for general use |
| 14:40.47 | amro | it mounts as ext2, so no journaling, but it works fine otherwise |
| 14:41.55 | Nom- | ack... ext3 would be nicer |
| 14:42.06 | amro | yeah :( but better than nothing |
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| 14:43.38 | Lopeppeppy | Treasure Hunt: An inexpensive Windows laptop that will run WoW well enough to raid, without making me spend 1/3 of my miserable salary. No preference on manufacturer. Go! |
| 14:43.57 | amro | Lopeppeppy: price range? |
| 14:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | I'd like less than $750 US. |
| 14:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not sure it's possible, which is why I ask this wider audience. :) |
| 14:44.28 | cbreak | does it have to be a laptop? :) |
| 14:44.32 | durcyn | doesn't exist. |
| 14:44.59 | amro | if less than $750 is $749, maybe |
| 14:45.18 | cbreak | playing with 1 fps is not fun. |
| 14:45.40 | ReAn | Lopeppeppy: A decent 1-2 year old Used laptop will meet your price-range |
| 14:45.44 | ReAn | and will run wow fine |
| 14:45.52 | ReAn | however... it'll be a used laptop |
| 14:45.58 | ReAn | that's all... icky |
| 14:46.02 | Pneumatus | meaning it will probably have a nuked battery |
| 14:46.18 | ReAn | factor in $50 for a new one |
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| 14:48.23 | amro | fastest way to round a number in lua? |
| 14:48.48 | ReAn | http://lua-users.org/wiki/SimpleRound |
| 14:48.51 | foxlit | and when you say round, you mean floor(x+0.5) ? |
| 14:48.51 | Nom- | convert it to an integer :P |
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| 14:49.14 | amro | foxlit: i meant truncate |
| 14:49.30 | Nom- | floor would do it |
| 14:49.30 | amro | just got it then |
| 14:49.32 | amro | yeah |
| 14:49.50 | Nom- | if you want proper rounding, then it's still quite easy :) |
| 14:49.53 | foxlit | If that's going into output ("%d"):format(1.5) works :) |
| 14:51.22 | Nom- | y = math.floor( math.abs( x ) + 0.5 ); if x < 0 then y = y * -1; end |
| 14:51.51 | Nom- | Now that's a quality rounding function :D |
| 14:52.23 | amro | foxlit: I wanted to avoid format for now, going to use it eventually though |
| 14:53.10 | Shirik | tsk tsk, Nom- |
| 14:53.16 | Shirik | it has a fatal flaw! |
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| 14:53.35 | Shirik | it is biased towards rounding up |
| 14:54.18 | Shirik | y = math.floor( math.abs( x ) + 0.5 + (x % 2 == 0 and 0 or -0.1)); if x < 0 then y = y * -1; end |
| 14:54.22 | Shirik | ^ quality rounding function |
| 14:54.27 | krka | why not simply: y = -y |
| 14:54.28 | Nom- | depends on which method you use |
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| 14:55.18 | krka | it's silly to call it a fatal flaw, imo, most applications don't require unbiased corner cases |
| 14:55.36 | Nom- | At least mine works for negative numbers... the one in java doesn't :P |
| 14:55.59 | Nom- | Math.round in Java just does floor( x + 0.5 ) |
| 14:56.03 | Shirik | krka: I know, I was just poking Nom- |
| 14:56.16 | Nom- | Just had an argument about this at work the other day :P |
| 14:56.22 | Shirik | the majority of systems don't do that |
| 14:56.37 | Nom- | Some whacko decided to use sprintf as a rounding function |
| 14:56.41 | Shirik | I think Excel can do it, but you have to turn it on |
| 14:56.42 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 14:56.58 | Nom- | sprintf("%.0f", value) |
| 14:57.28 | Nom- | That has the effect of rounding too, but the way it's round depends on which options were used in the C library |
| 14:57.31 | Nom- | :P |
| 14:59.08 | Nom- | hah my C: drive has 50% fragmentation |
| 14:59.09 | Nom- | woot |
| 14:59.13 | Nom- | shows how often i defrag :P |
| 14:59.18 | Nom- | I format more often than I defrag |
| 14:59.31 | Josh_Borke | format is the ultimate defrag |
| 14:59.59 | Nom- | So true |
| 15:00.03 | Shirik | hahahaha |Jelly| |
| 15:00.05 | Shirik | great picture |
| 15:00.16 | Nom- | The only reason I'm not formatting now is coz I can't find my WinXP CD |
| 15:00.43 | zenzelezz | do you have your key somewhere? |
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| 15:02.09 | haste | you can extract your current key |
| 15:02.32 | zenzelezz | if you have a legit key anyway, just download or copy someone's CD |
| 15:02.39 | Codex| | ~seen kaso |
| 15:02.45 | purl | kaso <n=Kaso@host86-159-90-229.range86-159.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13h 54m 16s ago, saying: 'red=today, green=within 3 days, purple=1 week'. |
| 15:03.16 | pb_ee1 | Nom-: Scan the CD of your friend and print it, you'll have a copy ! |
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| 15:03.50 | Nom- | meh i'll grab one from work before i do that |
| 15:04.18 | Nom- | I refuse to install Vista again though... had so much trouble the last itme |
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| 15:47.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Lopeppeppy: that's a tough want. Best bet is trying the Dell Outlet for a refurb or return PC. |
| 15:48.04 | ZealotOnAStick | look for a 14 or 15 inch with discrete graphics and 2gb ram. |
| 15:48.15 | ZealotOnAStick | but I doubt still you'll get under 750. I'd guess 800-900. |
| 15:48.51 | ZealotOnAStick | most of the sub-750 laptops you'll find with have integrated X3100 intel graphics. |
| 15:49.09 | ZealotOnAStick | which, will -run- wow, but it would be rough rough for raiding, and does the "shared memory" crap |
| 15:50.41 | AffenKatzen | Anyone who can help me in changing the alpha of a center icon @ grid? |
| 15:50.43 | AffenKatzen | Frame->Center Icon->[x]Earth Shield and then I want it like faded out as if he was oor |
| 15:50.45 | AffenKatzen | (Please highlight me if you respond :>) |
| 15:52.12 | Lopeppeppy | Pretty much what I've found, ZealotOnAStick. *nod* Thanks for poking at things for a second opinion for me though. *hug* |
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| 16:02.30 | |stefan| | heya =) |
| 16:02.38 | |stefan| | the code here. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?forumId=11114&sid=1&topicId=3913731994&pageNo=1& . on the last post. used on CharacterFrame gives me an error in the pvp frames. Interface\FrameXML\PVPFrame.lua:253: attempt to index field 'CharacterFrame' (a nil value): |
| 16:02.44 | |stefan| | and i'm quite confused about it. |
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| 16:08.10 | malreth | line 253 of PVPFrame.lua: UIPanelWindows["CharacterFrame"].width = CharacterFrame:GetWidth() + PVPTeamDetails:GetWidth(); |
| 16:08.44 | malreth | if you call UIPanelWindows["CharacterFrame"] = nil then you will cause that error |
| 16:09.20 | amro | that's not a call :P |
| 16:09.28 | malreth | w/e |
| 16:09.48 | malreth | if you set UIPanelWindows["CharacterFrame"] to nil then you will cause that error |
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| 16:28.42 | |Jelly| | Ahieik: ?? |
| 16:28.54 | |Jelly| | s/Aheik/Shirik/ |
| 16:29.15 | |Jelly| | s/ Ahieik/Shirik/ |
| 16:29.22 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. *grin* |
| 16:29.24 | |Jelly| | SCREW IT! |
| 16:29.34 | |Jelly| | What'd you wat at 10, Shirik? ;p; |
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| 16:34.51 | malreth | http://gizmodo.com/5030749/iphone-apps-we-like-dynolicious-car-performance-meter |
| 16:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | Geek. |
| 16:36.47 | zenzelezz | I am so fed up with the iPhone... two of my coworkers got them, and just about every other day they've downloaded some new stupid program we all have to see |
| 16:37.21 | malreth | zenzelezz: what you mean to say is you're fed up with your coworkers |
| 16:37.44 | zenzelezz | no, they are nice people, they just got infected with the apple bug |
| 16:38.42 | malreth | i think people are responsible for their own behavior... not the things they buy |
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| 16:40.15 | Godzmack | id have to agree |
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| 17:05.40 | Bouvi | Woo hoo. I come back to WoW and find that my addon still works with 2.4. Will need work with 3.0 but I am happy :D |
| 17:10.23 | Nom- | heh |
| 17:13.40 | zenzelezz | hm, Bouvi... what addon was yours again? |
| 17:17.19 | Bouvi | Auto Loot Fu |
| 17:17.41 | Bouvi | Just a simple one but it works. |
| 17:17.43 | Bouvi | :D |
| 17:18.24 | amro | Kirov: ping |
| 17:20.04 | Nom- | anyone got a ret pally in beta? |
| 17:20.10 | Nom- | wondering what the mana regen is like after they changed it |
| 17:20.34 | Nom- | no more 20k crits with 6k mana inbound, i'm guessing ^_^ |
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| 17:23.15 | Pneumatus | Nom-: ret pallies certainly arent getting the monster crits any more |
| 17:23.21 | Pneumatus | no idea about their mana regen tho |
| 17:24.15 | Nom- | well when soloing the whole thing was you get 60% of any damage done on a judgement back in mana |
| 17:24.31 | zenzelezz | reminds me of the shaman+paladin video based on "Der Untergang" |
| 17:24.45 | Nom- | so when you crit for 12k on a judgment, like some pallies were, you got 7k mana |
| 17:25.57 | Nom- | Is anyone in here Acacia_ on the website ? |
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| 17:43.41 | [Liquidor] | What happened to http://wowcompares.com ? any replacement or similar site? |
| 17:44.00 | Osagasu | What'd it do? |
| 17:44.22 | amro | FrameXML diffs for every patch |
| 17:44.40 | amro | ~poke Beladona |
| 17:44.41 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Beladona, pokes Beladona repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 17:45.11 | [Liquidor] | Hmm know of any other online FrameXML site? doesn't matter if it got diff. features |
| 17:45.51 | zenzelezz | "It works!"... isn't that like a standard placeholder website after setting up a server? Could be a reinstall or something |
| 17:46.00 | amro | apache default homepage |
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| 17:54.42 | Lunessa | ... station. |
| 17:56.07 | Lunessa | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 17:56.08 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers. |
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| 17:59.29 | Lunessa | Once again PennyArcade delivers - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 18:00.07 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. Just wow. |
| 18:00.35 | Dashkal | win |
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| 18:03.25 | Nom- | anyone know if bartender can be configured to do shift-1, shift-2 style paging ? |
| 18:04.23 | Josh_Borke | almost assuredly |
| 18:05.24 | Lunessa | Nom-: Yes. Really easily. |
| 18:05.35 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/456/ |
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| 18:26.09 | Shirik | Test |
| 18:26.28 | zenzelezz | epic fail |
| 18:26.34 | Shirik | did you see that? |
| 18:26.36 | Shirik | I don't :P |
| 18:26.50 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 18:26.51 | purl | pong |
| 18:26.51 | Lopeppeppy | I do. |
| 18:26.54 | Shirik | there we go |
| 18:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | It was my magic. |
| 18:29.00 | Fisker- | ~epic fail Shirik |
| 18:29.00 | purl | Shirik, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Shirik, you are that epic failure. |
| 18:29.40 | Lopeppeppy | Good to know you make history, dear. They'll have forgotten me. |
| 18:30.05 | Nom- | never seen this before... what's http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw13295.jpg <-- white artwork in middle of screen |
| 18:30.16 | kamdis | PowerAuras |
| 18:30.25 | Lopeppeppy | yup |
| 18:30.38 | kamdis | You can import custome graphics into it |
| 18:30.41 | devXero | anyone else here have a beta account? |
| 18:30.42 | kamdis | *custom |
| 18:30.48 | kamdis | yes |
| 18:31.15 | devXero | I was curious about the quest where you steal the horse... are you supposed to get a mount out of that? |
| 18:31.44 | kamdis | Yep. When you ride it back to the quest giver, there's a hotbar button for something like "return horse" |
| 18:31.52 | kamdis | once you do that the quest completes |
| 18:32.00 | devXero | I was pretty sure I was... But I didn't get it, and I didn't want to submit a false bug |
| 18:32.00 | |Jelly| | http://i35.tinypic.com/w62wk.jpg -- <3 Power Auras :) |
| 18:32.16 | cogwheel | devXero: you do know about the entirely new mount system, right? |
| 18:32.27 | devXero | cogwheel: nope.. I just got my account last night from work |
| 18:32.41 | cogwheel | first off, the mount was originally a spell like a Warlock's... |
| 18:32.56 | cogwheel | so it would be in the spellbook. but then they completely changed the way mounts are handled |
| 18:33.04 | devXero | orly |
| 18:33.14 | cogwheel | check your patch notes :P |
| 18:33.18 | cogwheel | and the forums |
| 18:33.24 | devXero | I was looking for it in my spellbook |
| 18:33.33 | kamdis | Yeah they moved it last patch |
| 18:33.47 | cogwheel | # New Vanity Pet and Mount changes: Players will now be able to access their non-combat pets and mounts by clicking on the pets tab in the Character Info panel. These pets and mounts will be now learnable much like spells or abilities. Once a vanity pet or mount is learned, the icon will disappear from within a playerâs inventory andreappear in the appropriate tab under the pet tab under Character Info. Say goodbye to your |
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| 18:34.26 | |Jelly| | I'm going to be saying "HAI! /gaywave" to my newfound inventory space. |
| 18:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | So will a lot of people. I hope they made that tab big enough for the serious pet collectors. |
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| 18:37.19 | devXero | cogwheel: thanks, I've found it... Looks like I have some readin to do :) |
| 18:37.37 | devXero | yeah, inventory space is a definate plus here :D |
| 18:37.41 | |Jelly| | Yeah please do. |
| 18:37.53 | |Jelly| | Cause as of right now, I DON'T HAVE A BETA KEY AND HAVE READ EVERYTHING I CAN! :P |
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| 18:38.29 | Lunessa | ~comfot |Jelly| |
| 18:38.43 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 18:38.47 | Lunessa | ~confort |Jelly| |
| 18:38.51 | kamdis | patience grasshopper? |
| 18:38.53 | Lunessa | ~fail Lunessa |
| 18:38.53 | purl | Lunessa: FAIL! |
| 18:39.09 | |Jelly| | [13:38]<purl>Someone already said that 1 seconds ago |
| 18:39.10 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 18:39.25 | kamdis | ~fail |Jelly| |
| 18:39.26 | purl | |Jelly|: FAIL! |
| 18:39.36 | Bouvi | Ouch epic fail for |Jelly| |
| 18:39.37 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.40 | kamdis | <3 |
| 18:39.49 | Dashkal | Glad they finally found a way to give is a ton more bag space without requiring another huge database upgrade :p |
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| 18:41.34 | Shirik | heroic CE instances: What requirements would a druid tank be faced with? |
| 18:42.05 | kamdis | cogwheel, I love your analogies. |
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| 18:42.17 | kamdis | " Adding an entirely new interface system to address the problem would be like adding a second engine to a car because the first has a blown head gasket." |
| 18:42.23 | kamdis | Perfection! |
| 18:46.50 | cogwheel | in all honesty, i was horribly disappointed with my self for coming up with a car analogy :P |
| 18:47.00 | cogwheel | now people might think I might actually know something about cars XD |
| 18:47.10 | Lunessa | Shirik: In those heroics? EZ-Mode for a druid tank. |
| 18:47.26 | Shirik | that mean I'll be fine with 20k armor uncritable? |
| 18:47.29 | durcyn | so, cogwheel, i've got this problem with my head gasket... |
| 18:47.58 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Seeing as I had to buy a new car thanks to a head gasket blowing... and then wrecking the radiator, the acc, and cracking the engine block... |
| 18:48.05 | Lunessa | Shirik: Yeah. |
| 18:48.12 | Esamynn | cogwheel: what were you criticizing? ;) |
| 18:48.19 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, those heroics? Suck for a pally healer. |
| 18:48.21 | Esamynn | the new Companion stuff? |
| 18:49.05 | cogwheel | Lunessa: i assume you got something with better mileage? :P |
| 18:49.21 | Esamynn | Shirik: yes, that should be ok, how many hp? |
| 18:49.23 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I went from 12 to 22 MPG |
| 18:49.32 | Shirik | only 13k |
| 18:49.35 | cogwheel | \o/ |
| 18:49.45 | Shirik | plus fort I guess if I have ap riest |
| 18:49.49 | Shirik | 13k self buffed |
| 18:50.02 | Lopeppeppy | armors? |
| 18:50.16 | Shirik | 20919 |
| 18:50.29 | |Jelly| | http://i35.tinypic.com/2n0ofis.jpg <-- I <3 HolyNova |
| 18:51.33 | Esamynn | Shirik: I think you'll be ok, but it has been a long time since my gear was.... at that level |
| 18:51.43 | Lunessa | Shirik, the only hard part is Heroic SV with the tanks on the last boss. Swpie = EZ-mode |
| 18:54.07 | kamdis | Esamynn, he was talking to a guy who thinks there should be a new, optional "pro ui" for raiders/arenaers/etc. |
| 18:54.25 | Esamynn | oh |
| 18:54.28 | |Jelly| | wha? |
| 18:54.45 | Esamynn | kamdis: umm, isn't that was the entire AddOn system is all about? ;) |
| 18:54.55 | kamdis | exactly cog's point |
| 18:54.56 | kamdis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537834551&sid=2000 |
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| 18:55.43 | kamdis | actually, that comment in particular was directed at someone else in the thread with a tangential point |
| 18:55.45 | kamdis | meh |
| 18:56.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I dunno, I kinda like my reply. ;) |
| 18:56.20 | Esamynn | ah well, thanks for explaining kamdis :) |
| 18:56.42 | kamdis | you betcha |
| 18:57.33 | Lunessa | Tonight on NightLine with Ted Koppel - Kamdis Explains! |
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| 18:59.56 | kd3 | rofl... oh god it's a devilsaul! get in the car! http://images.pixelefx.com/wrath/WoWScrnShot_073008_030238.jpg |
| 19:00.16 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 19:00.54 | Esamynn | HAHAHA! |
| 19:01.06 | Esamynn | I guess that is an "exotic" pet :) |
| 19:01.11 | kd3 | yar |
| 19:01.23 | Esamynn | I wonder if you have to keep the talent to keep the pets |
| 19:01.36 | kamdis | with bestial wrath it's even more scary |
| 19:01.38 | kd3 | if you drop the talent you can't summon it. it'll stay in its slot in the stables |
| 19:01.45 | Esamynn | makes sense |
| 19:02.21 | Josh_Borke | that's awesome |
| 19:02.35 | Lunessa | I almost want to level a hunter now. |
| 19:02.43 | Josh_Borke | almost, but not quite |
| 19:02.50 | Lopeppeppy | I almost want a jelly donut, but I'll abstain because it's healthier that I not have it. :) |
| 19:04.43 | Lunessa | Well, consider - I have two shaman, a priest, a mage, a warlock, a druid, a warrior on live; two shaman, a warlock, a priest, a mage, and a death knight on beta - and not enough time to play them all - where would I put a hunter in all that? |
| 19:05.19 | Esamynn | Lunessa: you have too much spare time |
| 19:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | Under the rug, Lunessa. |
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| 19:08.17 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yeah, they have a stacking buff that increases both AP and size |
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| 19:09.53 | Lunessa | Esamynn: Actually, I don't. I have no life. WoW IS my social life. Very sad. http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/26/funny-pictures-no-go-make-irl-frnds/ |
| 19:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | Hey. *hug* |
| 19:11.38 | kd3 | awesome! they took one of my suggestions |
| 19:11.45 | Lopeppeppy | Neat! |
| 19:11.52 | kd3 | apparently the Image of Mr. Bigglesworth shows up in Wintergarde now |
| 19:12.19 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:12.23 | Lunessa | Does a goblin say "It's frikkin cold in here, Mr. Bigglesworth!" |
| 19:13.26 | Fisker- | i'm killing you kd3 |
| 19:16.46 | Esamynn | had they announced their plans for a Russion locale for WoW before, and I missed it? |
| 19:16.55 | kd3 | ya |
| 19:17.09 | Esamynn | fun, yet ANOTHER locale to deal with :/ |
| 19:17.19 | durcyn | russian servers have been up for weeks now |
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| 19:18.03 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 19:19.19 | Esamynn | at least with spell ids now, there only a limited amount of in game strings one has to put in your addon to make it work |
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| 19:21.58 | durcyn | just reply with 'yob tvoyu maht' when russkies ask you to translate your stuff =P |
| 19:25.59 | Lunessa | Nah, just say, 'Nyet." |
| 19:26.31 | zenzelezz | nostrovje (+/- spelling) |
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| 19:26.48 | alestane | I once told a russian customer that I knew three words in Russian: "Da", "Nyet" and "Bozhe moi!" She looked at me for a second, and then said slowly, "I think...that's enough." |
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| 19:28.20 | kd3 | rofl at 30s northrend crashes |
| 19:28.22 | Shirik | ~x ru en da nyet bozhe moi |
| 19:28.25 | kd3 | wonder who's creashing the continent |
| 19:28.30 | Shirik | ... |
| 19:28.32 | kd3 | crashing* |
| 19:28.40 | zenzelezz | I told a Russian guildie that I knew enough Russian, "njet, da, vodka, kalashnikov, spetz natz"... he said "that's usually how it goes" |
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| 19:30.24 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:31.23 | Esamynn | kd3: I've had the theory proposed to me (and I agree with it), that those aren't crashes |
| 19:31.30 | Esamynn | that's blizz messing with the server |
| 19:31.41 | kd3 | hm |
| 19:31.59 | alestane | The ones that announce themselves are almost certainly hotfixes. |
| 19:32.15 | Esamynn | I thought hotfixes didn't require restarts |
| 19:32.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah... hence the term 'hot' |
| 19:32.43 | zenzelezz | I did not think so; I thought "hotfix" meant "this is a hot issue that can't wait for a normal patch" |
| 19:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | They've "hotfixed" live realms without taking them down |
| 19:33.07 | alestane | Maybe, I tend to think of a hotfix in WoW as being something that can be fixed server-side without pushing new code to the client. |
| 19:33.08 | zenzelezz | I'm only stating my perception |
| 19:33.10 | Shirik | tsk tsk, ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:33.16 | Shirik | how dare you fall into that logical fallacy! |
| 19:33.21 | Shirik | p -> q does not mean that q -> p |
| 19:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I recall one post on the main WoW forums when a druid was testing lacerate and they changed the threat values on him mid-test |
| 19:33.38 | Shirik | I still agree that its "doesn't require a restart," but your statement was still flawed :P |
| 19:33.38 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: rofl |
| 19:33.49 | ScytheBlade1 | He came to the forums and found that the changes to his lacerate were indeed due to a hotfix, not due to his medications |
| 19:33.50 | Esamynn | here's my theory, us all getting booted is them changing content files, or something, and they have to tell the server to "reload" something, and it boots us to do so |
| 19:34.11 | Esamynn | the server restarts are "bigger" versions of the same thing, or fixes that can't be done as hotfixes |
| 19:34.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: that really sounds like something that could/should/would be done when they patch the realms. |
| 19:34.19 | Esamynn | but don't require a patch |
| 19:34.42 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: not if they are developing and then playing with stuff on the beta realm ;) |
| 19:35.01 | Esamynn | or just tweeking stuff to see what works best |
| 19:35.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: there have been "less than reputable" sites that have poked at the blizzard software and found in excess of 1,000 realms within the US alone, the *vast* majority being dev realms of sorts |
| 19:35.36 | ScytheBlade1 | (Don't get me wrong, you may be right!) |
| 19:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | But they have their own playgrounds which they can take down as often as they pelase |
| 19:35.52 | ScytheBlade1 | *please |
| 19:36.06 | ScytheBlade1 | My bets are on simple "whoops, that player just crashed the server" |
| 19:36.18 | Esamynn | ahh, but those play grounds aren't anything nearly as close to a "live" environment as the beta server is |
| 19:36.28 | Esamynn | yah, maybe |
| 19:36.32 | kd3 | lol, spawned on a taxi, the biplane flew backwards for a second before going forward |
| 19:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, but I really doubt that there are *that* many issues which require rebooting a live server with hundreds/thousands of people on it every 30 seconds for an hour ;) |
| 19:37.52 | Esamynn | if it was a crash, I'd sort of a expect a longer restart time |
| 19:38.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Keep in mind how rapidly they can reboot the live servers |
| 19:38.19 | Esamynn | 5-10 minutes |
| 19:38.24 | Esamynn | these downtimes are like 2-3 |
| 19:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Not in my experience on a crash heavy server due to population |
| 19:38.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Under 30 seconds in most cases for an actual crash |
| 19:40.02 | Lopeppeppy | The beta hamsters are tired, let them eat a few seeds before they get back to work! |
| 19:40.19 | Esamynn | I guess it depends on how many processes there are to the server, and how many (and which ones) crashed |
| 19:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | No! THEY WILL DO THEIR JOBS! |
| 19:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | (And log all errors verbosely and alert the server admins to problems) |
| 19:41.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hamsters aren't verbose. They squeak. |
| 19:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Then they can squeak *loudly* when a serious problem arises. |
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| 19:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | That's a fantasy. |
| 19:44.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *hamsters |
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| 19:46.08 | alestane | kamdis: Are you troubleshooting my help requests now, are you? |
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| 19:46.18 | Tekkub | OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG |
| 19:46.20 | Tekkub | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/models/WOTLKC6.jpg |
| 19:46.23 | Tekkub | OMG! |
| 19:46.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Old news is /old/ |
| 19:46.43 | Tekkub | Panserbjorn! |
| 19:46.48 | kd3 | was wondering how long that was going to take |
| 19:47.01 | Tekkub | kd, I've only been up for like an hour :) |
| 19:47.21 | Dashkal | Good morning, Tekkub. Happy about something perhaps? |
| 19:47.32 | Tekkub | I need clean pants now |
| 19:47.34 | Bouvi | OK what is up with the Double Passenger mounts??? |
| 19:48.39 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 19:48.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Sounds pretty self-explanatory to me |
| 19:49.03 | Bouvi | I know but is that real? Two people on one mount? Talk about the ultimate follow command |
| 19:49.13 | Tekkub | yes |
| 19:49.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Old*er* news is *ancient* |
| 19:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay I'm done |
| 19:49.46 | Bouvi | OK that is sweet. Hey I just got back into the game yesterday after a few months out. |
| 19:49.51 | Dashkal | Didn't they reveal multi-passenger mounts back in blizzcon '07? |
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| 19:52.45 | Shirik | ~kill ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:52.46 | purl | ACTION shoots a inverse quark gun at ScytheBlade1 |
| 19:53.49 | Thunder_Child | has anyone seen a forum post or know how to change the PW on the temporary blizzard accounts? |
| 19:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart Shirik |
| 19:54.00 | purl | stabs Shirik |
| 19:54.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 19:54.03 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
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| 19:56.22 | Rabbitbunny | ~pastebin |
| 19:56.22 | purl | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 19:56.38 | Tekkub | gist.github.com :) |
| 19:57.40 | Rabbitbunny | http://gist.github.com/3315 |
| 19:58.20 | Rabbitbunny | 'Invalid Inventory slot in GetInventorySlotInfo()' |
| 19:58.54 | Rabbitbunny | Ah crap. |
| 19:59.07 | Rabbitbunny | keyed arrays don't like duplicate keys. |
| 19:59.24 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:02.06 | Tekkub | ScytheBlade1, statements of the obvious are obvious :P |
| 20:02.13 | Tekkub | (yes I'm that fucking slow in the morning) |
| 20:02.51 | Rabbitbunny | Nah, THat's not what hung me... |
| 20:02.51 | MoonWolf | its not morning anymore tekk |
| 20:03.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: lol |
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| 20:03.06 | Tekkub | is for me :P |
| 20:03.16 | Thunder_Child | ok, so the account manageent page uses UN:x and PW:y, the beta forum uses UN:x and PW:z, and the beta uses UN:t and PW:z. this is really iritating |
| 20:03.31 | Rabbitbunny | it loops through waist tabard neck back bag4 shirt then freaks out. |
| 20:03.39 | Bouvi | God that would suck to have morning now. I already had enough of the morning this morning much less shift some time zones do it all again... |
| 20:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: hey, git question... is there any way that I can run a cloned repo in an existing directory with existing files? I'm writing a module for a PHP based app, and I have "system/modules/modulename/etc.php" in the git rep. git-clone refuses to work because the existing directory already exists. :/ |
| 20:04.46 | wereHamster | Rabbitbunny: why don't you swap keys and values in your table? |
| 20:05.00 | Tekkub | you have to clone into a empty folder... are you trying to make a new repo for existing content? |
| 20:05.17 | Rabbitbunny | wereHamster: Will it affect performance? |
| 20:05.21 | wereHamster | no |
| 20:05.39 | Rabbitbunny | Yeah... |
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| 20:05.57 | ScytheBlade1 | No, I'm trying to integrate a git repo into an existing directory, so I can hack away at another repo, and then git-pull it into the directory that the server is running from |
| 20:06.36 | Tekkub | erm... I'd clone to a different path and copy in the things you want... then when you're all good to go delete the old path and move the repo to it |
| 20:06.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me I'm not explaining this correctly, haha |
| 20:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or I'm too noob to help) |
| 20:07.13 | Tekkub | probably |
| 20:07.14 | ScytheBlade1 | sec |
| 20:08.05 | Shirik | In python, what are the >> and << operators? Bit shift? |
| 20:08.25 | Shirik | n = ((n + 1) >> 1) << 1 |
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| 20:09.16 | Pneumatus | uhuh |
| 20:09.21 | zenzelezz | is that some odd way to make sure an integer is even? |
| 20:09.37 | zenzelezz | no wait, +1... |
| 20:09.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: http://pastey.net/92791 |
| 20:09.52 | Pneumatus | x << n == x shifted left by n bits |
| 20:10.08 | Shirik | is it arithmetic or logic shift |
| 20:10.09 | Shirik | do you know? |
| 20:10.30 | Tekkub | ScytheBlade1, you want a repo in a subpath of another repo? |
| 20:10.39 | Shirik | I guess it wouldn't matter in this case |
| 20:10.42 | ScytheBlade1 | the "other" repo is in another location entirely |
| 20:10.47 | Pneumatus | i've got a feeling its logical shift, but it's been a long time since i coded any python, so don't take my word for it |
| 20:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Which I'd be pulling from to update the server |
| 20:11.11 | Tekkub | sounds like you want git-submodule |
| 20:11.19 | Tekkub | it's a lot like svn:externals |
| 20:11.26 | Tekkub | and just as much of a pain in the ass |
| 20:11.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 20:12.07 | ScytheBlade1 | git help submodule go! |
| 20:12.17 | Tekkub | am I right though, if this were in SVN you would be using externals? |
| 20:12.41 | ScytheBlade1 | No, if I was using SVN I'd just checkout the SVN project in system/ and call `svn up` as I wanted to |
| 20:12.43 | Pneumatus | Shirik: wikipedia suggests i'm wrong, and its arithmetic shift |
| 20:13.37 | Tekkub | you could try cloneing to a fresh location and then moving it in |
| 20:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I did and something broke :) |
| 20:13.57 | Rabbitbunny | wereHamster: It just hit me what that would do. I blame solar radiation. Thanks. |
| 20:13.57 | ScytheBlade1 | sec as I try that again |
| 20:14.06 | Tekkub | that should work, tho the base repo will want to add it as a submodule if you don't add a .gitignore for it |
| 20:14.57 | Tekkub | oh and ScytheBlade1, if you're gonna use git... use gist.github.com instead of pastie :) |
| 20:15.30 | Lunessa | Now this is clear thinking - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557296254&sid=2000 |
| 20:16.52 | Dashkal | Oh god someone please +1 that |
| 20:17.02 | Dashkal | That has driven me nuts for so freaking long |
| 20:18.12 | wereHamster | Rabbitbunny: I don't think we are in a time of increased solar activity |
| 20:18.22 | malreth | the entire UI could use a serious rethinking/redesign |
| 20:18.31 | malreth | actually, the entire API along with it |
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| 20:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Tekkub: I have no idea what I changed but it works now ;) |
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| 20:19.49 | Tekkub | gg |
| 20:20.22 | malreth | when you have horizontal tabs across a window along with vertical tabs up the side at the same time... it means you've done something wrong as a UI designer |
| 20:20.42 | Tekkub | oh come one ,everyone loves tabs |
| 20:20.49 | malreth | ~tab Tekkub |
| 20:21.03 | malreth | i have no idea what that would even do |
| 20:21.09 | malreth | why did i do that? |
| 20:21.14 | Bouvi | I want tabs at the top bottom and both sides.... |
| 20:21.19 | Tekkub | I actually like the way the interface config one is done |
| 20:21.36 | Tekkub | but the new pets one is a mess right now, aye |
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| 20:21.42 | malreth | Tekkub: i agree, actually |
| 20:21.48 | Atriace | so do I. |
| 20:21.48 | MoonWolf | malreth, no it means you have the too many damn options. |
| 20:22.17 | malreth | they have a mess of options... but they don't have to all be on one window |
| 20:22.50 | Tekkub | yea they went and shoved the noken UI onto the char tab too |
| 20:22.59 | Tekkub | they're stuffing way too much shit there |
| 20:23.33 | Tekkub | any more and they'll have to make it a doublewide panel for more room on the bottom |
| 20:23.43 | foxlit | Tekkub: it replaced the honor UI |
| 20:23.46 | MoonWolf | the entire panel needs to be redone, tear out the paperdoll make that seperate |
| 20:23.59 | foxlit | So there's no "adding" going on :) |
| 20:24.01 | MoonWolf | create a new window, thats can be larger then the default little windows, stuff everythint else in there. |
| 20:24.25 | Rabbitbunny | I think they should knock all the textures off. faster loading, easier to find what you're looking for. win win. |
| 20:24.39 | Tekkub | yea do a panel with a left-sid selector like the addon config ui |
| 20:24.50 | Tekkub | shove all the misc panels into that |
| 20:24.58 | MoonWolf | there is a reason i like the skinner look. |
| 20:25.01 | Tekkub | then it's trivial to add new ones |
| 20:25.05 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 20:25.22 | foxlit | If it ever actually becomes an issue, they could just as well page using a drop down |
| 20:25.32 | MoonWolf | nono |
| 20:25.33 | MoonWolf | no dropdown |
| 20:25.35 | Tekkub | foxlit, barf |
| 20:25.35 | MoonWolf | dropdown bad. |
| 20:25.54 | foxlit | And why is that, exactly? |
| 20:26.01 | Tekkub | dropdowns shouldn't be used unless the panel itself doesn't change, just the thing the settings are being applied to |
| 20:26.12 | Lopeppeppy | Gah. I'm looking for a cute reference page I saw once that compared Schroedinger, Heisenberg, etc. types of computer programming errors. Familiar to anyone? |
| 20:26.18 | malreth | drop downs are slow |
| 20:26.32 | MoonWolf | dropdowns only reveal content on clicking them |
| 20:26.34 | malreth | w.r.t. fittz's law |
| 20:26.37 | Tekkub | left-side select list is much easier to work with, and much more intuitive |
| 20:27.02 | malreth | list select is the way to go for an indeterminate number of panes on one window |
| 20:27.14 | malreth | single row of tabs when the number of panels is small |
| 20:27.28 | Tekkub | yea what happens whet you get too many items in the dropdown? |
| 20:27.35 | Tekkub | *points at AddonLoader's config* |
| 20:27.36 | MoonWolf | Tekkub, look at rock |
| 20:27.40 | MoonWolf | thats what you get. |
| 20:27.47 | Tekkub | no thanks |
| 20:27.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm honestly not seeing the problem with the tabs on the pet screen (aside from the bugs) |
| 20:27.50 | malreth | ah, yes.. rock config |
| 20:27.57 | Wikwocket | how about icons that don't say which panel they represent until you mouseover them? <hides> |
| 20:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I agree that they're a pain to access but no more than tabs on the side would be |
| 20:28.08 | Tekkub | adapting the AH view into a multi-panel thing would be best |
| 20:28.24 | Tekkub | I don't have issues with the side tabs myself |
| 20:28.37 | MoonWolf | the ah needs a major recategorizing |
| 20:28.37 | malreth | it's the side tabs + horizontal tabs in one window |
| 20:28.39 | MoonWolf | personally. |
| 20:28.52 | Tekkub | but their current use makes sense and isn't overused |
| 20:29.08 | MoonWolf | the bottom tabs determine actual panel |
| 20:29.11 | Tekkub | AH cat's are much MUCH better than they used to be |
| 20:29.13 | MoonWolf | like it does in all the ui |
| 20:29.21 | MoonWolf | it works |
| 20:29.47 | Tekkub | yea if they changed the pet panel into side tabs it could work well |
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| 20:30.01 | Lopeppeppy | Hah! This will do! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug |
| 20:30.03 | Tekkub | and stop showing the "real pet" panel to everyone |
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| 20:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: *shudder* |
| 20:30.30 | ScytheBlade1 | argh, just barely |
| 20:31.04 | Shirik | good command-line linux hex editor? |
| 20:31.17 | ScytheBlade1 | cat file | xxd | less |
| 20:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | + a great knowledge of hex and dd + offsets |
| 20:32.26 | Shirik | --> 22/16, 22 % 16 |
| 20:32.26 | batbot | Shirik: > 1.375, 6 |
| 20:32.40 | Shirik | wait |
| 20:32.59 | Fisker- | i could technically just destroy you |
| 20:33.03 | Fisker- | whats % btw? |
| 20:33.04 | Shirik | --> tonumber("16", 16) |
| 20:33.04 | batbot | Shirik: > 22 |
| 20:33.07 | Shirik | oh I was right |
| 20:33.09 | Shirik | that's wierd :P |
| 20:33.15 | Shirik | 16 in base 16 >< |
| 20:33.37 | Shirik | whee, that's even better ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:33.40 | Shirik | because I can pipe that to grep |
| 20:33.48 | Shirik | mpdelbuono@li23-154 ~ $ cat ./foo.luc | xxd | grep 16 |
| 20:33.48 | Shirik | 0000020: 0002 0203 0000 0001 0000 0016 40ff 7f1e ............@... |
| 20:33.50 | ScytheBlade1 | xxd is awesome |
| 20:33.50 | Shirik | ez mode |
| 20:33.57 | Pneumatus | % is probably modulus |
| 20:34.25 | malreth | whoa! this is awesome! http://stupidfilter.org/demo.php |
| 20:34.40 | malreth | it's passing with flying colors with some wow forum posts |
| 20:35.03 | wereHamster | what does xxd do? |
| 20:35.35 | Shirik | ~wtf xxd |
| 20:35.48 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf Shirik |
| 20:35.56 | Thunder_Child | neither does anyone else |
| 20:37.15 | wereHamster | ~wtf purl |
| 20:37.34 | Wikwocket | whew she's not self-aware (yet) |
| 20:38.29 | malreth | stupidfilter.org classifies posts made by Cairenn as not likely to be stupid |
| 20:39.16 | Thunder_Child | must be broken then |
| 20:39.37 | Arrowmaster | what about posts by me? |
| 20:40.08 | malreth | "Text is not likely to be stupid." you pass, Arrowmaster |
| 20:40.31 | Arrowmaster | yay |
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| 20:40.45 | Arrowmaster | now what about fisker? |
| 20:41.47 | malreth | "i could technically just destroy you" -> "Text is not likely to be stupid." |
| 20:41.53 | malreth | maybe it's not so accurate |
| 20:42.00 | Arrowmaster | seems broken |
| 20:42.07 | Wikwocket | I can't find anything (in a brief search) that returns "stupid" |
| 20:42.24 | Lunessa | ... So much fun. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557065954&sid=2000 |
| 20:42.25 | MoonWolf | Wikwocket, try using weird markup |
| 20:42.25 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster, "Thunder_Child: must be broken then" see |
| 20:42.32 | MoonWolf | like, try pasting a large part of irc text. |
| 20:42.42 | Shirik | Going to arc with two pugs |
| 20:42.47 | Wikwocket | So is it basically just a grammar checker? |
| 20:42.52 | Shirik | First thing in chat: "I need a flying mount, right?" |
| 20:42.58 | Shirik | This does not bode well |
| 20:43.04 | malreth | the post that lunessa just mentioned -> "Text is likely to be stupid." |
| 20:43.14 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: lol thats funny |
| 20:43.22 | Thunder_Child | Wikwocket, l33t does |
| 20:43.22 | Lunessa | Shirik: Not if you have a 'lock. |
| 20:43.31 | Shirik | negative |
| 20:43.32 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I'm Uncle in that thread. |
| 20:44.33 | Wikwocket | Well, I think it's finny they're working on commercial stupidfilter products |
| 20:44.51 | Wikwocket | "We're sorry, your reply is too stupid to live. Please re-type it and try again. |
| 20:45.55 | malreth | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557146982&sid=1 is classified as likely to be stupid |
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| 20:48.28 | malreth | http://rstevens.livejournal.com/340874.html |
| 20:48.40 | Arrowmaster | when i saw that thread and the first reply all i could think of was http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/Wrath/WoWScrnShot_072708_002913.jpg |
| 20:49.20 | malreth | HAXX! |
| 20:50.37 | malreth | anyways... click the lj link for a video of Jonathan Frakes singing at comicon |
| 20:54.52 | Dashkal | Feed it some youtube comments and see how it does |
| 20:55.22 | Wikwocket | heh |
| 20:56.23 | Dashkal | Though this sounds like a very dangerous project. You see their corpus of suck may reach that critical point and implode |
| 20:57.23 | Dashkal | Though the site itself has a dubious remark or two: "Additionally, we plan to develop a fully implemented Firefox plugin and a Wordpress plugin." |
| 20:57.28 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I'm slow today, huh? |
| 20:57.35 | Dashkal | Since when do you plan to develop half-implemented stuff? |
| 20:58.07 | Lunessa | Unknown? |
| 20:58.29 | Kirov | Dashkal - have you seen my addons for wow? I planned on half implementing all of them, so far I haven't succeeded. |
| 20:58.54 | Dashkal | heh, actually no, Kirov. I don't know which ones you're responsible for :p |
| 20:59.09 | Kirov | I think they're all at like 1/4th to 1/3rd |
| 20:59.21 | malreth | Roger that! We've registered that as a burn. |
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| 20:59.49 | Kirov | Dashkal - I used to have the #1 most downloaded class specific addon, and the #10 most download addon overall. |
| 21:00.03 | Kirov | Dashkal - Since 2.0, most people don't know it exists, let alone download it. |
| 21:00.29 | Lunessa | Kennel? |
| 21:00.32 | Kirov | As of 2.4 it's completely broken, and I don't really plan on fixing it. |
| 21:00.34 | Dashkal | You didn't write my old warlock addon did you? |
| 21:00.35 | malreth | Discord? |
| 21:00.43 | Kirov | Discord isn't class specific. |
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| 21:00.50 | Kirov | SimpleTranqShot |
| 21:00.50 | Dashkal | Necro-something |
| 21:00.55 | Dashkal | I haven't played a lock since vanilla |
| 21:00.59 | malreth | Waterboy? |
| 21:01.02 | Dashkal | ahh, I've never maxxed out a hunter |
| 21:01.06 | Kirov | Downloaded more than any of the warlock addons by about 3-4 times |
| 21:01.13 | malreth | oh yeah! |
| 21:01.20 | malreth | i still use SimpleTranqShot |
| 21:01.27 | malreth | and i'm not even a hunter! |
| 21:01.32 | Kirov | malreth - it broke in 2.4, so I'm not sure how |
| 21:01.57 | malreth | Kirov: i play a mage, so your guess is as good as mine |
| 21:02.02 | Kirov | hehe |
| 21:02.32 | Kirov | I planned on someday rewriting the basic rotation setup UI to be completely generic. |
| 21:02.45 | Kirov | But I quit wow for about 6 months and somewhat lost interest in it. |
| 21:03.07 | Kirov | That and you rarely have to do 6-7 player rotations in 2.0 content. |
| 21:04.00 | Dashkal | lesse what they have planned in 25 man nax :p |
| 21:04.39 | Kirov | I figured out at one time that it'd been downloaded something like 200k times, not including the unofficial korean and chinese translations. |
| 21:04.41 | Dashkal | I am so looking forward to finally getting to see the inside of that place |
| 21:05.48 | Kirov | The rotation UI for SimpleTraqShot was easily the most complex part of that addon, but most people don't even realize it existed beyond the time bar display |
| 21:07.25 | malreth | lightroom 2.0 looks like a must-have upgrade... when to afford it, tho |
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| 21:09.55 | laeg | wow eu armory is down |
| 21:10.14 | laeg | does anybody have an alternative that will show guild members? |
| 21:10.16 | Kirov | I seem to remember the lightroom designer was working on something else right now... oh yeah, Windows. |
| 21:10.43 | Wikwocket | laeg: armorylite.com or wowcensus |
| 21:11.53 | Atriace | How's that Lua motto go? |
| 21:12.06 | Atriace | "Doing more with less" ? |
| 21:12.45 | Kirov | Atriace - beats the Java motto, "Doing less slower" |
| 21:12.51 | malreth | shutup! lightroom is genius! |
| 21:12.51 | Atriace | hehe |
| 21:12.54 | Wikwocket | I thought it was, "Lua: It's not an acronym!" :) |
| 21:13.25 | Atriace | Either way... I just axed 2 pages of code in favor of 2 paragraphs that did the same thing. |
| 21:13.34 | Atriace | How very gratifying. |
| 21:13.35 | Kirov | malreth - heh, part of me finds it funny, the other part of me has some hope for Win 7 |
| 21:13.35 | amro | Kirov: have you made any changes to DiabloGlobes? |
| 21:13.52 | Kirov | amro - Yeah, I broke it and deleted the changes. |
| 21:13.59 | amro | lol |
| 21:14.16 | malreth | oh yeah... having an adobe engineer working on the next windows os? |
| 21:14.19 | Kirov | amro - graphically, I'm having a hard time finding a better animation. |
| 21:14.22 | amro | I really like them, I've added text to em and ditched my playerframe |
| 21:14.27 | foxlit | adobe and UI design?! |
| 21:14.46 | malreth | every service patch update, everything will be redesigned |
| 21:14.56 | Kirov | amro - I've started using them consistently too. I was thinking about adding text to it as well, of various kinds. |
| 21:15.04 | Xuerian | foxlit: all hail 40-menu dropdowns |
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| 21:15.13 | amro | they're neat, just the borders that make them look out of place |
| 21:15.13 | amro | maybe a socket texture would fix that |
| 21:16.02 | amro | im now thinking about redesigning my whole UI around them |
| 21:16.03 | Kirov | amro - I will probably make a custom texture for the borders. They're meant to mimic the ones in the Diablo3 gameplay video, but they're just black with a 1 pixel outline. |
| 21:16.05 | amro | with a diabloish look |
| 21:16.24 | Kirov | I'll probably redo the gloss too as it doens't look right. |
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| 21:18.48 | Kirov | features I've been thinking about |
| 21:18.49 | Kirov | value text (either # missing, %, or absolutes) |
| 21:18.49 | Kirov | event text (ala player frame) |
| 21:18.49 | Kirov | low value flashes / pulsing, maybe a "boiling" type animation when they're low |
| 21:18.49 | Kirov | have real predictive markers based on hots rather than faking it w/ value rises. |
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| 21:21.38 | DT__ | What would be the best way to detect the global cooldown? UNIT_SPELLCAST_START doesn't trigger for instant cast spells so I can't use it |
| 21:22.00 | laeg | Wikwocket: ty |
| 21:22.21 | malreth | quartz has a module that displays the global cooldown... you can have a look at that for some ideas |
| 21:22.40 | DT__ | I'll take a look, thanks |
| 21:23.54 | Codayus | Quartz looks at the cooldown of something like mineral tracking. |
| 21:25.02 | NightHawkTheSane | well, what quartz looks at is configurable. |
| 21:25.39 | DT__ | Not everyone will have some profession that lets them do that though, and I can't look at spells because they might get locked out by a counterspell or something |
| 21:25.40 | Codayus | Yeah, since there's no single choice that'd work for everyone. Mineral tracking is a good choice to set quartz to if you have it though... :-) |
| 21:25.48 | NightHawkTheSane | well yes :) |
| 21:25.55 | Codayus | DT__: Yep, that's the problem. |
| 21:26.22 | Atriace | lua> lua_isnumber(1) |
| 21:26.23 | lua_bot | Atriace: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'lua_isnumber' (a nil value) |
| 21:26.25 | NightHawkTheSane | well, depending on class, there's usually SOME spells that can't be locked out. |
| 21:26.40 | NightHawkTheSane | also, quartz uses two spells for that very reason |
| 21:27.52 | Atriace | lua> isnumber(1) |
| 21:27.52 | lua_bot | Atriace: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'isnumber' (a nil value) |
| 21:27.55 | Atriace | !? |
| 21:27.58 | malreth | Find Fish is a nice spell to track for the GCD |
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| 21:28.29 | DT__ | There are a few really good spells to use, I just wish there was some more ... universal way to do it |
| 21:29.10 | malreth | ask Blizzard for a GCD event? |
| 21:29.20 | amro | Kirov: I've done the #/%/etc, and adding the event text now |
| 21:32.10 | DT__ | Yeah, I'll make a post asking for an event but even if it gets implemented, it would be on Wotlk only probably |
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| 21:33.37 | amro | Atriace: afaik there isn't one, try x==tonumber(x) |
| 21:34.29 | amro | er |
| 21:34.34 | amro | type(x)=="number" |
| 21:35.03 | Kirov | amro - did you just stick it on the bottom / top of the circle? I was thinking of having the "missing" value attach the to the liquid level |
| 21:35.57 | amro | center. that's a good idea though |
| 21:36.56 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.10 | Kirov | Also, currently the orbs are control value is a 0-1, I was going to change the orbs to take a proper max value / value |
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| 21:40.01 | amro | I didn't look much at CreateDiabloGlobe(), I just started modding RedGlobe/BlueGlobe right away |
| 21:41.01 | Kirov | amro - hehe |
| 21:41.13 | Kirov | That works |
| 21:41.18 | Kirov | Just means you can't modify the OnUpdate |
| 21:45.53 | Vilkku | any news on the author keys? mainly, nobody has got them right, as I haven't? |
| 21:46.35 | Gnarfoz | still waiting ;) |
| 21:47.26 | ScytheBlade1 | It will likely be this friday or next |
| 21:47.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Corresponding with the usual waves |
| 21:48.16 | bleeter | so did Hortus score an official replacement, or is his old public position being handled by 'any passing blue' atm? |
| 21:48.32 | bleeter | me is bummed out he missed Hortus' departure |
| 21:49.22 | kd3 | grandina's our new qa forum poster |
| 21:50.00 | kd3 | and wth... does wow seriously not have a cupcake food icon? |
| 21:50.46 | Dashkal | Hortus left? |
| 21:50.56 | bleeter | kd3: I should make a point of giving /waves and /helloes then, thx. will keep an eye out for the name |
| 21:51.04 | bleeter | Dashkal: yeah, working in the ... licensing foo now |
| 21:51.08 | kd3 | he's in the licensed goods dept now. tcg and the miniatures |
| 21:51.09 | Kirov | kd3 - sure, for holidays |
| 21:51.10 | bleeter | TCG and stuffs, I think |
| 21:51.30 | kd3 | closest I can find is a danish |
| 21:51.34 | Dashkal | hmm, can't say I'm surprised. Hopefully less stressful for him |
| 21:51.36 | kd3 | ...there's a cupcake vendor in dalaran now |
| 21:51.41 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:51.44 | ScytheBlade1 | cupcakes are awesome |
| 21:51.57 | kd3 | which is why I'm trying to find an icon to do that vendor justice |
| 21:52.09 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl |
| 21:52.10 | kd3 | ...if I could log back in to the game, that is |
| 21:52.22 | ScytheBlade1 | PvE is up |
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| 21:52.40 | bleeter | kd3: oO did you break it AGAIN!!?!?!?!?!?! |
| 21:53.26 | Lunessa | zomg mai srvr iz down. wut 2 do? |
| 21:53.40 | bleeter | blame kd3, wut els iz dere doh |
| 21:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: fix it. go! |
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| 21:55.26 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: /script if ServerIsDown == true then do ServerReboot else PlayWoW end |
| 21:55.27 | bleeter | fixing is for boredom |
| 21:55.30 | bleeter | BREAK IT MOAR!!! |
| 21:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: wtb your job |
| 21:56.16 | bleeter | man, automatic goblin therapist is win =)) |
| 21:56.22 | Lunessa | You want to work for a state body, doing accounts, VPN and application support and Tech Docs for sub-industry pay? Ok. :P |
| 21:56.27 | bleeter | totally owned 3 people last night |
| 21:56.31 | amro | anyone have tricks for improving wow performance? I mainly want to reduce memory usage |
| 21:56.45 | kd3 | ace all of your mods |
| 21:56.47 | bleeter | amro: moar jiggawatts |
| 21:56.58 | amro | ~lart kd3 |
| 21:56.58 | purl | chops kd3 in half with a free Solaris 7 CD |
| 21:56.59 | Lunessa | ... AddOn Memory Usage is not generally a performance factor. |
| 21:57.01 | Wikwocket | Are all your gfx settings already down? |
| 21:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Lunessa: well when you put it that way, your code is horribly lacking |
| 21:57.06 | bleeter | oO ace powered jiggawatts? that's pwn |
| 21:57.14 | amro | Wikwocket: yep |
| 21:57.31 | kd3 | sbo: Aimee <Cupcake Vendor>. in the inn closest to the trade district |
| 21:57.38 | amro | im thinking maybe there's a CVar, like SET use5timeLessRam "1" |
| 21:57.40 | Lunessa | ScytheBlade1: Meh, it's hax. I r teh lazy. |
| 21:57.52 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I'm totally porting there |
| 21:58.09 | Lunessa | amro /script UIParent:Hide() |
| 21:58.31 | amro | I can close my eyes for that :) |
| 21:59.26 | Lunessa | Hey, you're using less RAM. I be you could save like, MEGABYTES woth! |
| 21:59.44 | Wikwocket | I might be making thisup, but there may be a WoW command line switch -notnl, to play without extra textures and lighting? |
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| 21:59.44 | Kirov | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.51 | Kirov | that'll save you a lot of memory |
| 21:59.57 | Lunessa | Trust Kirov to bust out the elegant. |
| 22:00.09 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: bah. no actual cupcakes for sale. I'm totally /bug'ing that one |
| 22:00.15 | kd3 | ya |
| 22:00.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Like way to get my hopes up |
| 22:02.33 | ScytheBlade1 | "Words cannot express my joy that would be present if there were delicious, delicions cupcakes for our characters to enjoy in game. Cupcakes are the *real* fruit of heaven, and any <Cupcake Vendor> that doesn't sell cupcakes is DEAD TO ME." |
| 22:02.47 | ScytheBlade1 | "Thank you for helping us to improve World of Warcraft!" |
| 22:02.49 | kd3 | lmao |
| 22:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, right about three seconds before the server dies |
| 22:03.05 | Rabbitbunny | geniusness. |
| 22:03.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I might have crashed the server with that, I'm not sure |
| 22:03.20 | ScytheBlade1 | That seemed too well timed for anything else |
| 22:03.55 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1 borked eet! i sawz im do eet! |
| 22:04.15 | Rabbitbunny | if BagsIsFull() then loopBags() if grayValue() < lootValue() then dropGray() end else complain("Go to a vendor") end |
| 22:04.41 | Arrowmaster | does somebody with beta access want to make a post on that 'working addons' tread in beta forums that a fix for Ace2 adds has been made on wowace |
| 22:04.54 | Arrowmaster | addons* |
| 22:05.30 | Atriace | I need some help understanding the syntax of lua_isstring or lua_isnumber (http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#lua_isnumber). Like, is "int" required? What are the definitions of the arguments? The explanation in the reference is vague. |
| 22:06.13 | Arrowmaster | Atriace: thats C code |
| 22:06.24 | DT__ | You can't use those functions |
| 22:06.33 | Atriace | I thought C was available in Lua? |
| 22:06.38 | Atriace | ergo in WoW |
| 22:06.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:06.44 | Arrowmaster | lua is available in C |
| 22:06.47 | Atriace | fartanugan! |
| 22:07.13 | Arrowmaster | and you can make c functions available to lua |
| 22:07.32 | DT__ | I think Amro posted a solution to your problem earlier |
| 22:07.37 | DT__ | if type(x) == "number" |
| 22:07.45 | Atriace | I saw that. |
| 22:08.00 | amro | for the C API? |
| 22:08.10 | Atriace | Though I kinda disregarded it as I seem to recall using another function to test if a variable was a table earlier in my mod. |
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| 22:09.21 | Arrowmaster | no type() is the correct function to use for that |
| 22:09.27 | Atriace | ah |
| 22:09.28 | amro | those are C API functions |
| 22:09.31 | Atriace | That rings a bell. |
| 22:09.47 | amro | so you can use the proper get function |
| 22:09.48 | Atriace | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_type, dude, that's it |
| 22:10.05 | Atriace | Thanks, Arrowmaster. |
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| 22:11.01 | amro | Kirov: http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot073008225943oi1.jpg <-- what i had before rewriting, with PetFrame hack |
| 22:11.56 | Atriace | wow, crashed server. |
| 22:13.21 | Kirov | amro - btw, you can create another globe as a secure frame, though it can't inherit more than one type. |
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| 22:14.11 | Rabbitbunny | Heh. sooper cool. 2730 secnonds to get 337187copper out of Deadmines. That's 444642.197copper an hour. |
| 22:14.59 | Kirov | ~45 gph? |
| 22:15.09 | Rabbitbunny | Yeah. |
| 22:15.18 | Rabbitbunny | 53 fury war. |
| 22:15.35 | laeg | i don't like arguing with people on the wow forums |
| 22:15.37 | laeg | it drains me. |
| 22:15.39 | laeg | :( |
| 22:16.06 | Kirov | laeg - That's stupid, you're stupid. Arguing doesn't drain anyone, you're a liar. And Gay. |
| 22:16.30 | Kirov | My hair is a bird, your argument is invalid. |
| 22:16.49 | kamdis | Wrong! |
| 22:16.51 | kamdis | :P |
| 22:16.57 | kamdis | L2P |
| 22:17.39 | Kirov | ZOMG U GYZ NO NOTHIN SO GAY!!1L2PN0B |
| 22:17.47 | Lunessa | ZOMG n00bz! itz just a gaem. |
| 22:17.55 | Kirov | </forums> |
| 22:18.14 | Xuerian | Rabbitbunny: Counting repairs? |
| 22:18.15 | bleeter | Lunessa: stfu n post on yer main nublet |
| 22:18.28 | Rabbitbunny | Xuerian: Not yet. |
| 22:18.34 | Lunessa | lawl alt poast |
| 22:18.43 | Xuerian | I guess it wouldn't be bad with 54 gear |
| 22:18.52 | Rabbitbunny | 1 or 2 tops. |
| 22:18.57 | Xuerian | yeah, so not too bad |
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| 22:19.05 | Xuerian | Pretty good for gold at 50~ |
| 22:19.19 | Lunessa | This is arguing on the forums; http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 22:19.21 | Rabbitbunny | Now I need to find a way to store this data and sort it by leet grinds. |
| 22:19.45 | Lunessa | Oh, and in b4 goodwin |
| 22:20.11 | Xuerian | Rabbitbunny: Xloot Monitor should be able to export it with timestamps and all, in whatever format you want |
| 22:20.25 | kamdis | Godwin |
| 22:21.33 | Rabbitbunny | Xuerian: Thanks. |
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| 22:22.10 | Lunessa | ZOMG . no 1 kares abt splling on forumz. |
| 22:22.47 | kamdis | i r grammar Nazi (there i godwined - sorta - happy now?) |
| 22:23.07 | Lunessa | ilu2 |
| 22:23.34 | Lunessa | No that my brain hurts, code please? |
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| 22:27.20 | Kirov | for all in pairs(everyoneElse) do if all >= me then me = all + 1 end end |
| 22:28.40 | Rabbitbunny | You're bigger than everyone combined? I wouldn't advertise that... |
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| 22:30.05 | Thunder_Child | has anyone seen "Journey to the Center of the Earth in 3D" yet? |
| 22:30.25 | ScytheBlade1 | HA |
| 22:30.29 | ScytheBlade1 | So THAT is why Naxx up and moved |
| 22:30.46 | Xuerian | ScytheBlade1: What, actual lore reason, or did you just find out about the instance? |
| 22:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Actual lore reason |
| 22:31.01 | Dashkal | Thunder_Child: I have |
| 22:31.11 | Thunder_Child | Dashkal, any good? |
| 22:31.16 | Xuerian | What, they made it make sense now, with the event order paradox? |
| 22:31.27 | Thunder_Child | and are they the same cardboard with 2 peices of plastic glasses? |
| 22:31.28 | Dashkal | I enjoyed it. Go in expecting a Brenden Fraiser movie and all is good. |
| 22:31.28 | Sixen | Sbo, do the frost wyrm quest yet? ;). |
| 22:31.36 | Dashkal | Mine was plastic polarized glasses :p |
| 22:31.46 | Thunder_Child | still uncomfortable? |
| 22:31.50 | Dashkal | Not bad |
| 22:32.11 | Dashkal | Far far better than the cardboard pieces of shit they used to use. But no promises your theater will use the same ones mine did |
| 22:32.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: I'd have to redo an entire DK to see that :( |
| 22:32.44 | Thunder_Child | Dashkal, mine is in a part of LA that if they didnt...they would be in trouble |
| 22:32.52 | Dashkal | *snickers* |
| 22:33.07 | Thunder_Child | no thanks, i dont like chocolate |
| 22:33.19 | Dashkal | oh that's too bad. I love that bar |
| 22:33.53 | Kirov | Rabbitbunny - I'm greater than |
| 22:33.58 | Kirov | not bigger |
| 22:34.00 | Rabbitbunny | heh, 19s for repairs. |
| 22:34.06 | Kirov | L2Code |
| 22:35.14 | Rabbitbunny | then a fuc that returns repair cost? |
| 22:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "You have successfully resolved the low disk space condition. Your Windows drive now has 93MB of free space remaining." |
| 22:35.28 | NightHawkTheSane | .... |
| 22:35.46 | Kirov | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1286/878700891_99ad3a9dae.jpg?v=0 |
| 22:35.52 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: Wtf |
| 22:36.23 | Xuerian | awkward... |
| 22:36.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: the fun of doing development work on a 60gb hard drive. |
| 22:36.43 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: You can get those from the trash now, why so little? |
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| 22:37.05 | laeg | Kirov: lol :D |
| 22:37.18 | NightHawkTheSane | because my company doesn't see fit to give their developers the tools they need to not make them gouge out their eyes in frustration? |
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| 22:38.38 | Dashkal | heh, I was given an 80gig and was told: Ok, install your OS on it and go play |
| 22:39.18 | Kirov | !lua local function test(...) print( unpack(...) ) end test(1,2,3) |
| 22:39.18 | batbot | Kirov: @ [string "local function test(...) print( unpack(...)..."]:1: bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got number) |
| 22:39.37 | Kirov | !lua local function test(...) print( unpack({...}) ) end test(1,2,3) |
| 22:39.37 | batbot | Kirov: 1 2 3 |
| 22:40.57 | Kirov | !lua local function test(a,b,c) print(a .. b .. c) end local function test2(...) test(...) end test2(1,2,3) |
| 22:40.57 | batbot | Kirov: 123 |
| 22:41.45 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - I have as many gigs left as you have megs left. |
| 22:42.12 | Sixen | Russian Forums are open now, =). |
| 22:42.19 | Kirov | And, sadly, I can fill it in about 30 minutes. |
| 22:43.51 | Kirov | "low memory" means about 20 gigs for me. |
| 22:44.36 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - what kind of dev work do you do? |
| 22:45.14 | Thunder_Child | he dev's porno games |
| 22:45.58 | inviso | wait, what? Low memory? Who gets to play with a server with more than 20 GB of RAM? |
| 22:46.47 | laeg | does anybody have a level 70 pvp rogue? |
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| 22:47.55 | Kirov | "low -memory- / disk space" |
| 22:48.25 | Kirov | laeg - I loath pvp, and my rogue is 45, does that help? |
| 22:48.53 | laeg | no :( |
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| 23:05.18 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8557065994&sid=2000 - post 7 - yes old news is old, but it's still GOOD news. |
| 23:08.37 | Dashkal | old news is very good news |
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| 23:12.41 | amro | Kirov: I've got working hit text no |
| 23:12.46 | amro | s/no/now/ |
| 23:13.46 | Kirov | cool |
| 23:17.58 | Lunessa | Haha... Guild name <idkmybffarthas> |
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| 23:18.32 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
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| 23:25.01 | Thunder_Child | meh, i read that as i death knight.... |
| 23:27.40 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: any known fix to the filter blacking out the entire screen in wine? |
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| 23:32.50 | amro | Kirov: only one problem now, can't get the hit text to stay on top of the globe |
| 23:33.27 | clad|sleep | oh by the way |
| 23:33.32 | clad|sleep | if you're waiting for a beta key email |
| 23:33.41 | clad|sleep | make sure you're read it and ensure its not a phishing email |
| 23:33.42 | Kirov | amro - hmm? |
| 23:33.49 | clad|sleep | they're still going around, and people have been thinking they're real |
| 23:33.51 | clad|sleep | just out of hope :P |
| 23:34.08 | bleeter | clad|sleep: oh, that all. i was hoping for a 'hah i got mine sux2bu' ;) :P |
| 23:34.18 | clad|sleep | i dont need one :P |
| 23:34.23 | Kirov | amro - oh, you're getting text that appears under the "glass" |
| 23:34.32 | amro | Kirov: yeah |
| 23:34.36 | Thunder_Child | bleeter, clad|sleep doesnt need one cuse he hates wow players |
| 23:34.42 | clad|sleep | truth! |
| 23:35.33 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm, Do you guys know of a way to return /played in a way that I can deduct it from time()? |
| 23:35.49 | Lunessa | Kirov: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8430105465&sid=1 - that guy is getting on my nerves. I pointed him at DevTools 2 days ago. |
| 23:35.58 | bleeter | and we believe blizz's systems to be so totally bugfree there's not even the remote chance clad'd be sent one just out of pure heisenbug evilnesssness? :P |
| 23:36.36 | amro | Kirov: how can I fix it? |
| 23:36.42 | Kirov | Lunessa - yeah, I know the answer to his question, but I'm not going to answer. |
| 23:36.54 | Lunessa | how do we know clad doesn't already have one and is snubbing us? |
| 23:37.34 | Kirov | amro - you need to attach it to the globe's child frame. Globe.topFrame |
| 23:37.43 | amro | thanks! |
| 23:37.51 | Lunessa | I keep trying to teach him to fish. He doesn't want to learn, but he wants Atlantic salmon. |
| 23:38.02 | Kirov | amro - basically the globes use too many layers to be able to done with one frame conistently. |
| 23:38.16 | Kirov | boo for not having control over regions with in the same layer. |
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| 23:39.09 | Kirov | Lunessa - yeah. The answer is "there is no event that works, it's different every time. You'll have to do an OnUpdate to look for it to be valid." |
| 23:39.40 | Lunessa | Right. Which is what I was getting at before, but he's obtuse. |
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| 23:45.39 | Arrowmaster | you people suck at knowing the details of the loading process |
| 23:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, local news is entertaining today |
| 23:46.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10046228 |
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| 23:54.09 | Kirov | Arrowmaster - ? |
| 23:54.26 | Arrowmaster | see my reply to that thread |
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| 23:59.51 | Lunessa | I saw it. |
