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| 01:45.52 | vithos | so the difference between Diablo3-GameplayTrailer_US.avi and Diablo3-GameplayTrailer_EU_EN.avi is that they forgot to compress the audio on the US one? |
| 01:46.43 | Corrodias | americans can't hear compressed audio |
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| 02:21.06 | Arrowmaster | vithos: heh it is xvid and pcm |
| 02:21.25 | vithos | yeah, and the other is xvid and mp3 |
| 02:21.43 | Arrowmaster | guess maybe i should get the eu one instead |
| 02:21.56 | Arrowmaster | are the cenimatic ones the sam? |
| 02:22.00 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 02:22.20 | vithos | the EU gameplay one is slightly lower video bitrate, like 3900kbit vs 4200kbit i think |
| 02:22.42 | vithos | i haven't grabbed the cinematic one yet |
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| 02:45.10 | Rabbitbunny | Do you guy happen to know of a way to round a number without defining a specific function? |
| 02:45.41 | Corrodias | multiply it, cast it to an integer, then cast it as a float, then divide it? |
| 02:46.15 | Rabbitbunny | That's... beautiful. |
| 02:46.42 | Tekkub | math.floor |
| 02:46.54 | Corrodias | it's probably no faster than doing it with a function of some kind, but it's the first thing i can think of |
| 02:47.17 | Tekkub | if you want 4/5 rounding, math.floor(val+.49) |
| 02:47.46 | Anaral | To hide the buff frame, I know the command is just BuffFrame:Hide() but how do I call that exactly? |
| 02:49.14 | Rabbitbunny | I was hoping for two decimal places |
| 02:52.20 | Corrodias | oh. in that case, i think the casting method ought to be cool. lemme think |
| 02:52.52 | Rabbitbunny | reloading right now... and (math.floor(num*100)/100)... |
| 02:53.14 | Corrodias | (float)((int)(((mynumber + 0.005) * 100)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) or something |
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| 02:53.17 | Corrodias | oh wait |
| 02:53.43 | Corrodias | (float)((int)(((mynumber + 0.005) * 100))/100) ? |
| 02:53.47 | Rabbitbunny | Ah, it works perfectly. |
| 02:53.54 | Corrodias | oh hey, good idea |
| 02:54.02 | Corrodias | far less confusing |
| 02:54.14 | Rabbitbunny | I'm still trying to figure out how yours works... |
| 02:54.29 | Corrodias | casting it to an integer truncates anything after the decimal |
| 02:54.35 | Corrodias | much like .floor |
| 02:54.45 | Rabbitbunny | I just started last night, but I'm okay with perl/php. |
| 02:54.54 | Corrodias | that's assuming you have a language that does that sort of thing |
| 02:54.54 | kd3 | ah, casting abuse |
| 02:55.06 | Corrodias | i know java and C++ would do that, but i can't be sure about Lua and Perl |
| 02:55.48 | Rabbitbunny | Yeah, i don't know those ones yet, I tend to have a short attention span. |
| 02:58.20 | Rabbitbunny | why + 0.005? |
| 02:58.38 | Tekkub | Rabbitbunny, your way (floor with multi/div) is the fastest really |
| 02:58.41 | Corrodias | that's if you're rounding to the nearest instead of rounding to the lowest |
| 02:58.56 | Corrodias | Tekkub: 1, Corrodias: 0 |
| 02:59.25 | Tekkub | Corrodias, problem with your method is there are no types like that in lua |
| 02:59.48 | Corrodias | thought that might be a problem |
| 02:59.59 | Tekkub | yea, a number's a number in lua |
| 03:00.11 | Arrowmaster | you mean double |
| 03:00.18 | Tekkub | no, I mean number |
| 03:00.20 | Tekkub | :P |
| 03:00.21 | Corrodias | i mean triple, dickhole |
| 03:00.22 | Arrowmaster | no you mean double |
| 03:00.34 | Tekkub | no, _I_ mean number |
| 03:00.40 | Tekkub | you can mean double all you want |
| 03:00.59 | Arrowmaster | its a 64bit floating point |
| 03:01.08 | Tekkub | it's a number! |
| 03:01.13 | Arrowmaster | double! |
| 03:01.18 | Tekkub | bubble! |
| 03:01.30 | Corrodias | nipple! |
| 03:01.40 | Tekkub | twipple! |
| 03:01.58 | Sixen | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/06/28/the-state-of-wow-on-linux/ |
| 03:03.31 | Corrodias | if it were impossible to play WoW on linux through those methods, i'd think they might consider it. but since you can, there's no good reason for them to work on yet another codebase |
| 03:03.45 | Corrodias | at least, that's a possible justification |
| 03:03.55 | Corrodias | i don't know whether it's hard to develop for multiple OS's |
| 03:03.56 | Tekkub | yea, it's extra effort for a minority that likes tinkering with shit till it works |
| 03:05.23 | Sixen | =/ |
| 03:05.33 | Rabbitbunny | and sometimes the tinkering is more fun than the working part. |
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| 03:12.28 | kd3 | meh, tinkering has its place, but in this day and age, wow+wine should work out of the box as long as the proprietary drivers are properly installed |
| 03:13.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Indeed |
| 03:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, them building a linux client... it seems like a LOT of effort for so little gain |
| 03:14.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Wine has almost shot itself in its own foot with this one :/ |
| 03:14.15 | kd3 | meh... gotta remember who slouken used to work for |
| 03:14.23 | kd3 | and what os X is based on |
| 03:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not forgetting |
| 03:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm not getting my hopes up either |
| 03:15.09 | kd3 | I'm not getting my hopes up... there's no way they're going to publicly release it. blizz standards are way too high for a linux release |
| 03:15.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I heard from bleeter that they stopped maintaining it before release |
| 03:15.54 | kd3 | it was back in the pre-alpha days |
| 03:15.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 03:16.02 | Pizik_afk | I think the effort:reward ratio just isnt high enough to make them release a proper Linux port |
| 03:16.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly I'd be cool with an unsupported linux binary + our own support forum |
| 03:16.49 | kd3 | but they already get that for free with wine, so... why even put in the effort? |
| 03:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing as... we're unsupported as-is |
| 03:16.53 | Rabbitbunny | I doubt they'd do it, It would make botting very very easy. |
| 03:17.02 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yeah exactly |
| 03:17.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Rabbitbunny: what? how? |
| 03:17.49 | Rabbitbunny | X networking. |
| 03:18.17 | Pizik_afk | No easier than on windows or Mac especially I dont think |
| 03:18.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Which isn't possible.... anyway? |
| 03:18.27 | kd3 | scary amount of bandwidth required for that |
| 03:19.00 | kd3 | trying to play something like wow over remote x? |
| 03:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | WoW is a bit much |
| 03:19.26 | ScytheBlade1 | But I pretty commonly use my desktop apps on my laptop over wifi |
| 03:19.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It's awfully nice |
| 03:19.45 | Rabbitbunny | Then there's always a project along the lines of Synergy, With a singuler server it could control a raid. |
| 03:19.54 | Rabbitbunny | s/er/ar/ |
| 03:19.55 | kd3 | yeah, stuff that doesn't redraw at 30+fps is fine. I love remote x for regular desktop apps |
| 03:20.21 | ScytheBlade1 | People have already two-manned 10-charactere'd Kara |
| 03:20.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I doubt they'd have a problem with people using Synergy (hint: they don't) |
| 03:20.40 | Tekkub | Synergy FTFW |
| 03:20.47 | Rabbitbunny | Yes, but 'people' don't sell gold. |
| 03:21.30 | kd3 | and glider's still pretty detectable. last time I checked, the gold farms used cheap labor to get gold, not bots |
| 03:21.33 | Rabbitbunny | A 40 man raid as a cronjob anyone? |
| 03:23.08 | Rabbitbunny | Glider is detectable because of the Windows API, linux is slightly more formable. |
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| 03:24.06 | Rabbitbunny | Anyway, I don't see a linux client ever happening, THey would be paying to keep the gold sellers in business. |
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| 03:25.12 | ScytheBlade1 | ... if anything a native linux client would help prevent abuse, due to it having more code base to detect things like automated X input (which.... is already possible) |
| 03:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really not seeing your point, am I missing something? |
| 03:25.47 | kd3 | pretty sure the windows-based hacks are more prevalent than the *nix-based ones |
| 03:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Also very very true... there's a lot of /possibility/ for abuse.. everywhere |
| 03:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Doesn't mean that it's actively exploited |
| 03:27.10 | Rabbitbunny | Think of it like this, data streams under linux are akin to composite video. A nice open stream, Whereas data under Windows is closer to HDMI. Which one makes the RIAA happy? |
| 03:27.21 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:27.24 | Arrowmaster | you know nothing |
| 03:28.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that, um, we already run wow in linux, and thus all of the crap you see related to giving us a native linux build is moot |
| 03:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it's all possible as-is |
| 03:28.45 | Rabbitbunny | Arrowmaster: Then expand on how this is not true. |
| 03:29.21 | Rabbitbunny | ScytheBlade1: You're running under wine, giving you a windows api in effect. |
| 03:29.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Rabbitbunny: in addition to an X API.. |
| 03:29.34 | Arrowmaster | well first off your composite video analogy is so far off its not even funny |
| 03:29.46 | Rabbitbunny | Arrowmaster: Expand on that. |
| 03:30.08 | Arrowmaster | mpaa doesnt give a shit about composite video anyway since you cant make decent copies from it |
| 03:30.56 | Rabbitbunny | I believe you're wrong. Go look at what outputs you can get on a DVD player, and find a composite in video card sold recently. |
| 03:31.12 | Arrowmaster | i have one |
| 03:31.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... found one |
| 03:31.14 | Tekkub | composite is shit |
| 03:31.15 | Corrodias | s-video is significantly better than composite |
| 03:31.20 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:31.25 | Tekkub | COMPONENT is decent |
| 03:31.27 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: not by much but its better |
| 03:31.40 | Corrodias | it might depend on your tv, Arrowmaster, but on my television it was a big difference |
| 03:31.49 | Rabbitbunny | ScytheBlade1: You're supposed to back statements like the with links. |
| 03:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | My video card supports component, composite, and s-video in |
| 03:31.52 | Tekkub | besides, it's simpler to rip the DVD directly :P |
| 03:31.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Moment |
| 03:32.14 | Arrowmaster | my card does composite and s-video, in and out |
| 03:32.16 | Corrodias | your card supports component IN? more likely out |
| 03:32.17 | Rabbitbunny | The quality of the picture is not important, the point was that the stream was open. You've missed that point. |
| 03:32.35 | Rabbitbunny | ScytheBlade1: Not history. Find one you can buy today. |
| 03:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 03:32.47 | Arrowmaster | Rabbitbunny: streams are open on windows too |
| 03:32.47 | Corrodias | what does that have to do with anything? |
| 03:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | The card is still sold |
| 03:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a 7600GT |
| 03:33.01 | Corrodias | i think you mean "out", ScytheBlade1, not "in" |
| 03:33.06 | Corrodias | my 7800GT only has component out |
| 03:33.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Pretty sure mine has an in |
| 03:33.18 | Tekkub | I've never seen component in |
| 03:33.29 | Corrodias | i'd like to think you're right. mine doesn't really have anything 'in'. i didn't get that option |
| 03:33.31 | Arrowmaster | i thought ati cards had component in |
| 03:33.31 | Tekkub | or DVI in, or HDMI in |
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| 03:33.54 | Rabbitbunny | There's one card that has component in, and it's not in production yet. Hampaugg or something. |
| 03:34.03 | Tekkub | Hauppauge |
| 03:34.09 | Tekkub | the makes lots of tuners |
| 03:34.16 | Tekkub | *they |
| 03:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 03:34.36 | ScytheBlade1 | My purchase history doesn't go back as far as I want it to, thus I can't link my exact card |
| 03:34.41 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case, my question is this |
| 03:34.51 | ScytheBlade1 | What exploits would be possible with a native linux client that aren't already? |
| 03:35.04 | Corrodias | putting penguins in the game |
| 03:35.16 | Rabbitbunny | None, but how much easier would they be? |
| 03:35.22 | ScytheBlade1 | No different at all? |
| 03:35.41 | Tekkub | why do we even care about this? |
| 03:35.48 | Rabbitbunny | We don't. |
| 03:35.56 | Arrowmaster | they wouldnt be easier |
| 03:36.19 | Rabbitbunny | Arrowmaster: Back you statement up. You'e supposed to make a point, Then offer supporting facts. |
| 03:36.29 | Tekkub | time for a change of subject |
| 03:36.37 | Tekkub | I just popped this HUGE zit on my back |
| 03:36.38 | kd3 | yay for diablo 3 |
| 03:36.40 | Corrodias | oh come on, don't get into another image argument |
| 03:36.41 | Rabbitbunny | Otherwise we're just going 'Yes!' 'No!' |
| 03:36.41 | Lopeppeppy | I'm done moving! |
| 03:36.47 | Tekkub | I think I'm getting faint from the blood loss |
| 03:36.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: win! |
| 03:36.54 | Corrodias | Arrowmaster clued me in to the huge input lag on the monitor i ordered |
| 03:36.58 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1: Totally. *happy sigh* |
| 03:37.00 | Arrowmaster | you expect me to actually discuss details in this channel? |
| 03:37.04 | Arrowmaster | not happening |
| 03:37.05 | Corrodias | (which is why i'm not even going to open it until i exchange it for a new revision next month) |
| 03:37.07 | Arrowmaster | since its not allowed |
| 03:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: own bed to sleep in and everything? |
| 03:37.43 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, I had that as of a week ago. Today was last of the stuff out of the old place, clean it, lock it, done. :) |
| 03:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or is everything not unpacked quite yet?) |
| 03:37.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahh, gotcha |
| 03:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | Unpacking is totally still in progress, but at least it's all here now. |
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| 03:40.45 | Tekkub | o/~ copyleft, all rights reversed o/~ |
| 03:42.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops. *comfort* |
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| 04:26.27 | Rabbitbunny | Hmm, How can I print things to the chat window? |
| 04:28.02 | Corrodias | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage |
| 04:28.17 | Corrodias | also, ChatFrame1: and others if you need to be specific |
| 04:28.22 | Corrodias | i think |
| 04:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 04:28.33 | Rabbitbunny | Thanks. |
| 04:29.10 | Rabbitbunny | Trying to figure out how this guy is finding Yellows patterens, So I can make it find profitable patterns instead. He's doing something with a table. |
| 04:36.39 | Corrodias | ah... burning marinade, delicious smell |
| 04:36.52 | Corrodias | /vaporizing |
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| 04:49.53 | Corrodias | steak is served |
| 04:51.18 | Corrodias | tasty and moist! |
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| 04:57.31 | MrM000Cow | hey all was wondering if some maybe knew of a workin mirror for the Diablo 3 Developer Panel movie |
| 04:58.28 | Corrodias | a dev panel, eh? i might like to see that |
| 04:59.17 | MrM000Cow | only site i know of is on incgamers and i tihnk the site is getting nailed. |
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| 05:03.21 | Corrodias | like an emo girl on prom night |
| 05:04.14 | MrM000Cow | >.> |
| 05:04.27 | MrM000Cow | umm..yea...that works...i guess |
| 05:04.28 | Corrodias | (and i don't mean, "with real nails") |
| 05:04.56 | MrM000Cow | but its more fun with real nails |
| 05:05.04 | Corrodias | you don't have to convince me |
| 05:05.12 | Corrodias | i have plenty of pictures that attest to that :D |
| 05:05.16 | MrM000Cow | lol |
| 05:05.36 | Corrodias | i learned from my mistake last time. this time, i bought two decent-sized sirloin steaks instead of one little one |
| 05:06.10 | MrM000Cow | o.O |
| 05:08.45 | Corrodias | although i'll have to drink half a gallon of water to process all that meat. woot. |
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| 05:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's the first time I am really hating on wikipedia |
| 05:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | They deleted the blizzard downloader article =[ |
| 05:40.41 | Corrodias | on what grounds? |
| 05:40.43 | kd3 | meh, most of the wow articles have gone poof |
| 05:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Not notable |
| 05:40.45 | kd3 | [[WW:N]] |
| 05:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | [[WW:N]] ? |
| 05:41.13 | batrick | there's enough random shit on wikipedia |
| 05:41.15 | Corrodias | well, they have a case for that |
| 05:41.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not saying that they don't |
| 05:41.57 | Corrodias | the blizzard downloader is a pretty "specific" concept, better off on a site that has more to do with the subject at hand, wowwiki for example |
| 05:42.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just saying that I'm not remotely pleased, as that was my primary source to get WoWTorrentEx :( |
| 05:42.13 | kd3 | the "yeah, but wikipedia also has an article on foo" doesn't float in deletion debates... that's a specifically proscribed argument |
| 05:42.33 | kd3 | http://capnbry.net/wow/downloads/ |
| 05:42.39 | Corrodias | foo has a history and there are no "foo fan sites" |
| 05:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I found that, luckily |
| 05:42.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Gonna have to upload a copy to my server just to keep it around |
| 05:43.03 | Corrodias | http://www.wowwiki.com/Blizzard_Downloader |
| 05:43.10 | Corrodias | this, i think, is sufficient for the internet to have |
| 05:43.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha |
| 05:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't even know that existed |
| 05:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart wikipedia |
| 05:43.33 | purl | takes wikipedia to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 05:43.35 | ScytheBlade1 | ~win wowwiki |
| 05:43.36 | purl | Congratulations, wowwiki! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 05:44.15 | Corrodias | wowtorrentex can extract from the diablo3 trailer downloaders too, fortunately |
| 05:44.27 | kd3 | all of their downloaders use the same format |
| 05:44.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It can extract any of their downloaders |
| 05:44.38 | Corrodias | do they have others? |
| 05:45.07 | ScytheBlade1 | SC, War3(x), D2(x), WoW, WoW: TBC, all the WoW patches, all of the SC2 media, all of the D3 media, all of the WoW media |
| 05:45.11 | ScytheBlade1 | aka "everything over 10MB" |
| 05:45.25 | Corrodias | ah |
| 05:47.08 | MrM000Cow | o man |
| 05:47.15 | MrM000Cow | im about ready to break a window |
| 05:47.40 | MrM000Cow | vindication battlegroup blows ass hard |
| 05:47.42 | Corrodias | DO IT |
| 05:47.57 | MrM000Cow | does av suck everywhere else too? |
| 05:48.12 | Corrodias | i stopped playing wow, finally. i have noooo idea <3 |
| 05:51.33 | Fisker- | btw |
| 05:51.40 | Fisker- | any of you have a link to the enGB D2 downloaders_ |
| 05:51.41 | Fisker- | ? |
| 05:52.03 | ScytheBlade1 | They released it in other locales? |
| 05:52.14 | Mikk | ~lart Corrodias |
| 05:52.14 | purl | takes a big bite out of Corrodias's jugular vein |
| 05:52.22 | Fisker- | they didn't? :o |
| 05:52.33 | Corrodias | hey, i'm going out to buy milk. you can't bite me. |
| 05:52.37 | Fisker- | then why does b.net whine about my product key being intended for another product ;_; |
| 05:53.03 | Corrodias | maybe you bought a key for hello kitty island adventure |
| 05:53.06 | Corrodias | brb, buying milk |
| 05:53.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, for the GAMES? |
| 05:53.11 | Fisker- | LEARN 2 PLAY Corrodias |
| 05:53.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha D2 |
| 05:53.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Not D3 |
| 05:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Plug your key into the blizzard store and they'll spit out both downloaders and a new key to use with the downloaders |
| 05:54.02 | Fisker- | ... |
| 05:54.15 | Fisker- | ScytheBlade1 i usually don't ask for FUNNIES |
| 05:54.29 | Fisker- | I already got it in the blizzard store |
| 05:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Why can't you use their store? :P |
| 05:54.39 | Fisker- | But the thing is that i added it before the EU store opened |
| 05:54.41 | Fisker- | n00b |
| 05:54.47 | Fisker- | so all my games are English (US) |
| 05:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | And you can't just add them to the EU store? |
| 05:56.05 | Fisker- | no |
| 05:56.07 | Fisker- | they're already added |
| 05:56.12 | Fisker- | It's the same site |
| 05:56.20 | Fisker- | so they know shit! |
| 05:56.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, right, you just selected the US locale instead of the GB locale |
| 05:57.06 | Fisker- | already asked for them if they can transfer it |
| 05:57.17 | Fisker- | but it'll probably just work if i get the enGB clients |
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| 05:57.36 | Fisker- | as they don't really have any kind of management with those keys :( |
| 05:57.43 | Fisker- | I hope they do that with the new Battle.Net |
| 05:58.17 | Fisker- | instead of having to create a new battle.net account for each and every game which gets deleted after a month or so they should make it a single account :) |
| 05:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid firefox |
| 06:00.09 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 06:00.12 | Fisker- | get internet explorer |
| 06:02.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It's all over SSL |
| 06:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have a link offhand, it seems |
| 06:02.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 06:03.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I just added SC again, with my same key |
| 06:03.01 | Fisker- | you can't get the download links unless you own the license i think |
| 06:03.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And chose EU |
| 06:03.08 | ScytheBlade1 | And... it worked |
| 06:03.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 06:03.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't know what's wrong with you |
| 06:03.21 | Fisker- | I have tried that |
| 06:03.24 | Cairenn | anyone awake? someone talk to me, please? |
| 06:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: poke |
| 06:03.38 | Cairenn | hi |
| 06:03.40 | Fisker- | But is that a new account? |
| 06:03.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope, my same old account |
| 06:03.53 | Fisker- | Cause you can technically just readd the same key to an infinite number of accounts |
| 06:03.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: what's going on? |
| 06:04.02 | Fisker- | anyways with mine it just says "Game already registered" |
| 06:04.09 | Cairenn | ummm, I think someone just tried to break in |
| 06:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 06:04.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Call the police? |
| 06:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ... you know, now? |
| 06:04.27 | Cairenn | what if I just imagined it? |
| 06:04.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Good thing you won't be paying for their gas in either case, huh? |
| 06:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Also: tried? |
| 06:05.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: looks like you get to e-mail support ;D |
| 06:05.49 | Cairenn | well, I heard a noise on the back step, and then I heard the screen door open and the patio door got rattled |
| 06:05.59 | Cairenn | but it was locked |
| 06:06.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: I added my SC key twice, one as US, one as EU, but it rejected my D2 key |
| 06:06.17 | Cairenn | but, it's also thundering out right now, so maybe it was just the wind? |
| 06:06.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: maybe... turn on a bunch of lights and check |
| 06:06.37 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, a LOT of lights |
| 06:06.44 | Cairenn | I ran and set the alarm |
| 06:07.03 | Cairenn | and turned OFF all the lights, so I can see outside |
| 06:07.10 | ScytheBlade1 | That works too |
| 06:07.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Any cars nearby that shouldn't be? |
| 06:07.44 | Cairenn | I back on a golf course |
| 06:08.07 | Corrodias | well, if it was a person, they will not be coming back |
| 06:08.14 | Cairenn | I'm just really spooked right now |
| 06:08.24 | Corrodias | theives do not try to break into a house if they know somebody's home and alert |
| 06:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case, if you're really concerned, the most that you'll lose out of calling the police is a bit of sleep and a bit of embarassment that will be forgotten instantly |
| 06:08.45 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4672977712&postId=46723372685&sid=1#6 <-inappropiate? :D |
| 06:08.50 | Cairenn | sorry to dump it on you guys, just really really needed to talk to someone |
| 06:08.50 | Corrodias | is there any benefit to having the police pay a visit? |
| 06:08.56 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or at least here, I don't know how it works up in no man's land ;D) |
| 06:09.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: peace of mind |
| 06:09.23 | Cairenn | I'm worried now that if there is someone, they may try next door |
| 06:09.38 | Corrodias | true |
| 06:09.42 | Cairenn | and my next door neighbour is a sweet little old lady of 70-something |
| 06:10.00 | Corrodias | i'd recommend calling her and waking her |
| 06:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd walk on over and look through what windows you can just to check |
| 06:10.05 | Corrodias | and having her turn on the lights |
| 06:10.24 | Cairenn | if there is someone out there, though sbo, I don't want to go out |
| 06:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry, I meant walk through your /house/, not outside it |
| 06:10.53 | Corrodias | normally, a thief won't want a confrontation, but you're right not to push it |
| 06:11.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Quite simply, you have nothing to lose by calling if you are honestly a little freaked out |
| 06:12.59 | Corrodias | one thing i like about living in an apartment, i don't have to be concerned about people being around |
| 06:13.19 | Cairenn | I'm more than just a little freaked out, but I didn't see anyone so I don't want to waste their time on something that is probably nothing |
| 06:13.25 | Cairenn | their == the police |
| 06:13.41 | Arrowmaster | what time is it there? |
| 06:13.46 | Corrodias | well, their time will be wasted whether or not someone WAS there, because they're not there now |
| 06:13.48 | Cairenn | 2:15 am |
| 06:13.59 | Corrodias | but do they have anything better to do? |
| 06:14.15 | Arrowmaster | the officer on duty probably isnt doing anything anyway |
| 06:14.21 | Tain | If years of watching horror films have shown me anything it is don't go outside. |
| 06:14.37 | Cairenn | not a chance I'm going outside, no way no how |
| 06:15.04 | Cairenn | thanks Tain |
| 06:15.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: I'm not seeing how you're wasting their time, considering that /it is their job/ |
| 06:15.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry if that's a bit blunt for your mood right now |
| 06:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | But it is the truth |
| 06:15.35 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:15.54 | Corrodias | don't worry, it was probably just a vengeful ghost. |
| 06:16.07 | Corrodias | or a cosby ghost like in "ghost dad" |
| 06:16.17 | Arrowmaster | the least they could do is drive around the block for a while |
| 06:16.32 | Corrodias | good idea |
| 06:16.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Which, at a minimum |
| 06:16.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Knowing that someone in authority is nearby watching |
| 06:16.59 | ScytheBlade1 | That's at least some level of comfort, no? |
| 06:17.04 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:17.24 | Tain | I'm sorry, I'll stop peeping in your neighborhood. |
| 06:17.33 | Corrodias | the last thing a thief wants, aside from getting rained on and encountering a homeowner, is to have the police around when they're trying to pull something off |
| 06:18.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: letters on a screen are great. That's also about it. |
| 06:19.09 | Cairenn | I know |
| 06:19.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry if I'm pushy, but I've dealt with too much crap to be anything else in such a situation :P |
| 06:19.29 | Cairenn | I just needed some human "contact", ya know? |
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| 06:19.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And if that's all you need, great |
| 06:19.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Problem solved! :) |
| 06:19.57 | ScytheBlade1 | But if you're really concerned, you've got nothing to lose by a simple phone call |
| 06:19.58 | kd3 | a kid got decapitated at the six flags not too far from me |
| 06:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: 0_0 |
| 06:20.12 | Corrodias | a group of teens climbed over two fences |
| 06:20.20 | Corrodias | one of them got snicker-snacked by a batman rollercoaster |
| 06:20.33 | kd3 | yah, I'm checking now |
| 06:20.36 | Cairenn | yeah, heard about that |
| 06:20.39 | Corrodias | stupid kids trying to get in where they don't belong. batman doesn't put up with that shit. |
| 06:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lolol |
| 06:21.02 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 06:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Really? My first concern is not for the kid (who died nearly instantly) but the people who got the pleasure of being on that ride and watching |
| 06:21.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I forsee many hours spent late at night for them, thinking |
| 06:22.33 | Corrodias | i hope it doesn't sound too morbid to say i think i'd like to be on that ride >_> |
| 06:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | hehhttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4672977712&postId=46723372685&sid=1#6 |
| 06:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 06:22.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 06:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Ignore that link, my paste is weird and it's just Fisker- ;P |
| 06:23.00 | kd3 | that ride's fun. was good for the time when it got introduced... the lines were ludicrous |
| 06:27.48 | Fisker- | morning mr. kd3 |
| 06:28.38 | kd3 | g'night mr. fisker. macross 12 finished downloading. bout to crash and catch up on some sleep. |
| 06:29.10 | Fisker- | i said morning |
| 06:29.14 | Fisker- | so you're not allowed to sleep :( |
| 06:29.16 | Fisker- | ~uft |
| 06:29.16 | purl | Universal Fisker Time, it's whatever time he says, anyone else will be shot on sight, even if it's the same time as Fisker's time. |
| 06:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Well points for originality, Fisker- |
| 06:29.45 | ScytheBlade1 | But no |
| 06:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | So ha! |
| 06:30.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: all better now? |
| 06:31.11 | Cairenn | well, breathing is slowing down some again now, so yeah, I'm okay |
| 06:31.14 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 06:31.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha, good. |
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| 06:46.42 | Fisker- | http://eu.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=221003132 <-already sold out :o |
| 06:49.24 | Cairenn | not surprised, honestly |
| 06:49.54 | Corrodias | wait, how does that work? |
| 06:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: just like all of the others |
| 06:50.51 | Fisker- | it generates a 6-digit code based on time |
| 06:50.53 | Corrodias | other whats? :| |
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| 06:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_token |
| 06:51.00 | Corrodias | it looks like a little device |
| 06:51.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.rsa.com/node.aspx?id=1156 |
| 06:51.05 | Fisker- | it is |
| 06:51.29 | Corrodias | and it looks like all it does is produce a number |
| 06:51.35 | Fisker- | yes |
| 06:51.40 | Fisker- | From a special algorithm |
| 06:51.54 | Corrodias | i hope that number is somehow connected to your account |
| 06:52.00 | Corrodias | not much use otherwise |
| 06:52.10 | Fisker- | It isn't |
| 06:52.16 | Fisker- | It's connected to the authentication server |
| 06:52.25 | Corrodias | how is it connected? bluetooth? |
| 06:52.30 | Fisker- | not at all |
| 06:52.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ... it isn't /connected/ to the auth server |
| 06:52.43 | Fisker- | it is |
| 06:52.45 | Corrodias | stop using confusing language |
| 06:52.52 | ScytheBlade1 | When it was created, it was given a seed and synced with the auth server |
| 06:52.56 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 06:53.00 | Corrodias | it is |
| 06:53.01 | Corrodias | it isn't |
| 06:53.04 | Fisker- | it is |
| 06:53.06 | Fisker- | it isn't |
| 06:53.07 | Fisker- | gogo |
| 06:53.15 | ScytheBlade1 | When you push the button, it throws the time + seed through an algorithm and spits out a number on screen |
| 06:53.20 | Corrodias | ScytheBlade1: so they set it up for your account before they ship it? |
| 06:53.26 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 06:53.32 | Corrodias | god damnit, how does it work? |
| 06:53.36 | ScytheBlade1 | They have you type in the serial on the back of the device |
| 06:53.37 | Fisker- | IT HAS A SEED |
| 06:53.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So they know which one it iss |
| 06:53.40 | Fisker- | IT GENERATES NUMBER |
| 06:53.42 | Fisker- | SERVER KNOWS SEED |
| 06:53.44 | Fisker- | IT VERIFIES NUMBER |
| 06:53.47 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 06:53.52 | Corrodias | ah, you enter information |
| 06:53.57 | Stanzilla | Fisker- suxx |
| 06:54.05 | Corrodias | Fisker- does suck |
| 06:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Once you have it, it is in no way shape or form directly connected to blizzard's servers |
| 06:54.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It only was when it was created, and that was a one time ordeal |
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| 06:55.13 | Corrodias | so, knowing your serial, it generates a number that will only work for your account (and possibly a couple hundred others) and only once (for your account) |
| 06:55.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Close |
| 06:55.43 | ScytheBlade1 | The number is dependant on the seed (known only to you and blizzard) |
| 06:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And the current time |
| 06:56.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Duplicates happen, but only once every several hundred thousand iterations... at /worst/ |
| 06:56.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That number changes based on the time, anywhere from every 30 seconds to every minute |
| 06:56.45 | Corrodias | quite handy |
| 06:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | It is essentially a moving password known only to you and the blizz server |
| 06:57.22 | ScytheBlade1 | The only actual way to hack it is to either disassemble your device, or to have been there when it was created and synched |
| 06:57.32 | Corrodias | or steal it :3 |
| 06:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Or to have it in hand, yes ;) |
| 06:58.19 | ScytheBlade1 | You get one, type the serial into account admin |
| 06:58.21 | MentalPower | or know the seed and the algo, and the bootup time of the device |
| 06:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: "or to have been there when it was created and synched" ;) |
| 06:58.55 | MentalPower | yeah yeah, read it afterwards |
| 06:58.59 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 06:59.08 | Fisker- | Or chinese spammers will call now |
| 06:59.09 | Corrodias | that sounds like the best thing ever. |
| 06:59.19 | Fisker- | and ask them to use the authenticator and tell them the 6 digit number |
| 06:59.19 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:59.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise, saying that it is "connected" to your computer or your account is... confusing |
| 06:59.34 | Corrodias | it is not physically connected, but conceptually |
| 06:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Because it has no computer requirements, no software/driver requirements, etc |
| 06:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, and that's it |
| 06:59.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That's also what confuses people |
| 07:00.20 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 07:00.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Years of battery life, and incredibly simple design |
| 07:00.26 | MentalPower | I was thinking of a hardware dongle when they first talked about it |
| 07:00.31 | Corrodias | that and Fisker- saying it isn't and then saying it is |
| 07:00.51 | ScytheBlade1 | With WoW's playerbase though, you quickly realize why a hardware dongle would be a huge mistake |
| 07:01.00 | ScytheBlade1 | The end user support required to make that work alone |
| 07:01.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And then you have increased device costs too |
| 07:01.29 | Corrodias | i'd want one if i still played |
| 07:01.35 | Corrodias | or if i decide to start again |
| 07:01.35 | Fisker- | i aim to confuse Corrodias |
| 07:01.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Easier to just throw a clock and a small processor on a chip, attach it to an LCD screen, and call it good |
| 07:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | USB? Bluetooth? That's a lot more effort |
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| 07:02.24 | Fisker- | i'm so looking forward to seeing a somewhat decent queue time in EU |
| 07:02.35 | Fisker- | compromised accounts takes like 6-8 weeks |
| 07:02.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Ouch |
| 07:02.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Honestly, and I sincerly hope they do this |
| 07:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Bundle it with Wrath, period |
| 07:03.10 | Fisker- | Doesn't seem like they will, but yeah i agree |
| 07:03.11 | Corrodias | yes! |
| 07:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Official pricing has not been announced, make it work with the accountants |
| 07:03.31 | ScytheBlade1 | And bundle it with all battlechests and one new expansion |
| 07:03.51 | Rabbitbunny | what does 'for i=1,#info do' do? I'm lost as to why there is a # in there. |
| 07:04.02 | Fisker- | protected internal! |
| 07:04.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Rabbitbunny: short and simple version: number of elements in the table called 'info' |
| 07:04.21 | Rabbitbunny | Ah. |
| 07:04.27 | Rabbitbunny | Thanks. |
| 07:04.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a bit more complicated than that due to some technicalities |
| 07:04.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But for most tables where you'd be using that, they won't come into play |
| 07:04.54 | Fisker- | only 25 minutes until wwi :o |
| 07:05.00 | Fisker- | lets hope they don't fail again with the presentations |
| 07:05.14 | Rabbitbunny | It gets me the gist, somewhere in here he's pulling the list of reagents out of his bum. |
| 07:05.24 | Fisker- | "They're showing something on screen, well lets see some hot closeup action of rob pardo instead" |
| 07:05.35 | Corrodias | now the blizzard store won't let me go back to the US version |
| 07:05.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: nuke your cookies |
| 07:05.42 | Fisker- | baww Corrodias |
| 07:05.43 | Corrodias | boom. :( |
| 07:06.39 | Corrodias | okay, i just deleted all fucking cookies and it's still doing it. maybe if i go like this... |
| 07:08.12 | Corrodias | i guess i could just choose "north america" from the dropdown menu |
| 07:08.20 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 07:08.23 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be cool too |
| 07:08.31 | Corrodias | IT ISNT WORKING >_< |
| 07:08.36 | Fisker- | old |
| 07:08.40 | Fisker- | it's all that ajax bs |
| 07:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Works for me... dunno why not |
| 07:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | For the (very) curious about the authenticator: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-mraihi-oath-hmac-otp-04.txt |
| 07:11.18 | ScytheBlade1 | While I can't tell you for certain that it uses that specific algorithm, that will at least give you an idea as to how they really work |
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| 07:11.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (And they just might use that algorithm, who knows) |
| 07:11.59 | Corrodias | i choose north america from the menu and it doesn't take me there ;.; |
| 07:12.55 | Fisker- | only 1 hour until some stupid questions again |
| 07:13.07 | Fisker- | "DURRR WILL WE SEE ZERG PLAYABLE IN SC2???" |
| 07:13.09 | Corrodias | and now www.blizzard.com is forcing me to eu.blizzard.com/en |
| 07:13.13 | Fisker- | YES |
| 07:13.28 | Fisker- | try us.blizzard.com instead on the store |
| 07:13.57 | Corrodias | what's us.? |
| 07:14.12 | Fisker- | lolwut? |
| 07:14.15 | Fisker- | United States |
| 07:14.21 | Fisker- | as in United States of America? |
| 07:14.21 | Corrodias | separate from the north american server? o.o |
| 07:14.35 | Fisker- | north america = us in blizzard's eyes |
| 07:14.42 | Fisker- | screw canada |
| 07:15.02 | Corrodias | at least i can get to the store now. thanks. :( |
| 07:17.27 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 07:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.28 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.49 | ScytheBlade1 | s = look ahead window size, and v = verifications attempts |
| 07:17.56 | Lonny | Hello, anyone here runs WoW on XP x64 bit and can tell me if it's worth it ? |
| 07:18.10 | MentalPower | it runs just fine on Vista64 |
| 07:18.12 | Fisker- | there's really no difference |
| 07:18.33 | MentalPower | XP64 is a joke tho, M$ should not have released it |
| 07:19.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I like the idea of a brute force attack having a 0.00012% chance of working |
| 07:19.02 | Fisker- | isn't it kinda the same with Vista64? |
| 07:19.06 | Lonny | Well depends how you look at it :P |
| 07:20.08 | Corrodias | my advice to blizzard: |
| 07:20.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Lonny: WoW is a 32-bit app, under windows it'll perform largely identically independant of which arch you are using |
| 07:20.30 | Corrodias | make Diablo 3 accounts persist beyond 30 days of inactivity, and make this authenticator work with them |
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| 07:20.54 | Fisker- | single sign on please |
| 07:21.01 | Fisker- | want b.net accounts for alle of my games |
| 07:21.16 | Fisker- | and i don't want my keys to be able to be used for other accounts if i'm inactive |
| 07:21.18 | Lonny | I know it's a x32 application but I'm working on a x64 platform and that's what I have installed :) |
| 07:21.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lonny: "it'll perform largely identically" |
| 07:21.43 | Lonny | Great :D |
| 07:22.03 | ScytheBlade1 | The only differences won't come from the game, they'll come from your drivers |
| 07:22.05 | Lonny | Now what about LUA ? is there any IDE that works on x64 bit ? :) |
| 07:22.17 | krka | Lonny: LUA, what's that? Did you mean to say Lua? |
| 07:22.23 | Lonny | yeah |
| 07:22.32 | Corrodias | it's an automated thing, Lonny. ignore him. |
| 07:22.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: oh way to run all the fun |
| 07:22.40 | Lonny | haha :) |
| 07:22.42 | MentalPower | Lonny: theres really no IDE for Lua, 32 or 64 bit |
| 07:22.44 | Corrodias | krka is fighting a one-man cause to have people properly capitalize a word |
| 07:23.00 | MentalPower | Corrodias: krka is not a bot, he just runs that specific response |
| 07:23.07 | Tekkub | LUEH? |
| 07:23.10 | Corrodias | i didn't say he's a bot |
| 07:23.13 | Lonny | I'm working with Visual Studio 2008, 2005 |
| 07:23.15 | MentalPower | Corrodias: Lua is a word, not an acronym |
| 07:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Lonny: there really isn't a lua specific IDE out there |
| 07:23.25 | Corrodias | i didn't say it's an acronym |
| 07:23.30 | Tekkub | LUA |
| 07:23.47 | Fisker- | LUA indeed |
| 07:23.50 | Corrodias | MentalPower should say something relevant to what i said |
| 07:24.00 | Corrodias | or i will spank him |
| 07:24.01 | MentalPower | Corrodias: f/u |
| 07:24.08 | Tekkub | LUA!!! |
| 07:24.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time I see "LUA" I actually think of Vista's new security layer |
| 07:24.19 | MentalPower | Tekkub: it has a timer :) |
| 07:24.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Every time I see "lua" I think of the language |
| 07:24.20 | Tekkub | WAU? |
| 07:24.21 | MentalPower | 30mins |
| 07:24.27 | Lonny | I had a plugin that I installed on Visual Stduio 2003 back then, dunno if anything available for 2005, 2008 I guess I'll have to look for it :) |
| 07:24.33 | ScytheBlade1 | No, http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsVista/lua.html |
| 07:24.34 | Tekkub | WAUL |
| 07:24.37 | Tekkub | LUAW |
| 07:24.39 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 07:24.48 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 07:24.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Lonny: that'd be your best bet, yeah |
| 07:24.54 | Fisker- | i thought it was called UAC? |
| 07:25.07 | Tekkub | oh yea, WAU is ace |
| 07:25.10 | Tekkub | heh |
| 07:25.13 | Lonny | Yeah I know it's some french word, don't know why I wrote LUA :P |
| 07:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker-: LUA is a part of UAC |
| 07:25.18 | Tekkub | FUCK YOU ACRONYMS! |
| 07:25.46 | Tekkub | this is why I refuse to "pronounce" arunyms |
| 07:25.54 | Lonny | lol |
| 07:26.02 | Tekkub | SQL is always "Ess Que Ell" to me |
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| 07:26.16 | Tekkub | those retards that put vowels in it can fuck themselves |
| 07:26.25 | MentalPower | sequel :P |
| 07:26.26 | Fisker- | SQL is sequel for me then |
| 07:26.29 | Fisker- | right on |
| 07:26.48 | Tekkub | woo hoo! |
| 07:26.48 | Corrodias | hot |
| 07:26.50 | MentalPower | Fisker-: kinky :) |
| 07:26.54 | Tekkub | double penetration! |
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| 07:28.34 | Tekkub | TLAs FTL! |
| 07:31.01 | Arrowmaster | boo my 360 locked up |
| 07:31.05 | Fisker- | YES |
| 07:31.16 | Fisker- | rrod? |
| 07:31.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:31.25 | Arrowmaster | just locked up |
| 07:31.25 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:31.28 | Fisker- | atleast it was something |
| 07:31.30 | Arrowmaster | never gotten a rrod |
| 07:31.41 | Arrowmaster | and this is a release day 360 |
| 07:31.50 | Tekkub | redrod redrod! |
| 07:32.21 | Arrowmaster | wish i could make it rrod and trade it in for a discount on an elite but they would never allow that |
| 07:33.14 | Arrowmaster | small harddrive ftl |
| 07:33.50 | Tekkub | ah, check your spam they can give you a bigger harddrive now |
| 07:33.52 | Fisker- | the fact that you have to pay for a microsoft "certified" one to only get 120GB ftl |
| 07:33.57 | Tekkub | modern medicine is great stuff |
| 07:34.13 | Fisker- | i got the biggest harddrive |
| 07:35.56 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.58 | Tekkub | NEXT! |
| 07:36.14 | Fisker- | they don't come bigger than mine :( |
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| 07:36.27 | Tekkub | thirteen inches? |
| 07:36.37 | Fisker- | 1 TB |
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| 07:38.20 | Diskmaster | disk[Total: 454.4GB, 58.4% free] |
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| 07:39.10 | Rabbitbunny | I've got like 1.2TB... |
| 07:39.41 | Fisker- | Diskmaster that may be |
| 07:39.53 | Fisker- | but you don't have a harddrive bigger than 1TB |
| 07:40.23 | Vilkku | anyone watching the stream atm? more specifically, can you get any sound? |
| 07:41.05 | Vilkku | atm I can see some guys talking with a sign behind them saying "D'EXPLOSION LE CARNAGE" |
| 07:41.09 | Fisker- | nope |
| 07:41.10 | Fisker- | no sound |
| 07:41.18 | Rabbitbunny | stream of what? |
| 07:41.26 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker- |
| 07:41.26 | purl | hereby declares Fisker- a troll |
| 07:41.27 | Tekkub | dexploion of carnage? |
| 07:41.34 | Tekkub | *dexplosion |
| 07:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ~botsnack |
| 07:41.37 | purl | aw, gee, ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:41.45 | Vilkku | Rabbitbunny, from WWI, atm Starcraft art panel |
| 07:41.52 | Vilkku | Tekkub, I think it was french :P |
| 07:41.59 | Rabbitbunny | World War? |
| 07:42.01 | Tekkub | CHOWDAH! |
| 07:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Worldwide Invitational |
| 07:42.09 | Fisker- | ancien marine? |
| 07:42.11 | Vilkku | World Wide Invitational |
| 07:42.11 | Fisker- | ANCIEN? |
| 07:42.14 | Rabbitbunny | o0o0o |
| 07:42.21 | Fisker- | GIEV SOUND DAMNIT |
| 07:42.27 | Corrodias | they'd probably appreciate if you didn't call their invitational "WWI" :) |
| 07:42.43 | Fisker- | oh |
| 07:42.45 | Vilkku | they do it temselves :p |
| 07:42.46 | Fisker- | it's a french slide |
| 07:42.57 | Vilkku | check the url, http://eu.blizzard.com/wwi08/streams.xml |
| 07:44.20 | Corrodias | i don't believe you. |
| 07:44.30 | Vilkku | ='( |
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| 07:46.02 | Fisker- | you all go to hell and you die |
| 07:46.35 | Fisker- | http://eu.blizzard.com/store/_images/product?productId=221003132&type=3&loc=en-GB <-lololl i got your keycode |
| 07:46.37 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 07:48.24 | Tekkub | Fisker-, they obviously have no sense of humor or they'd have made the example fob have the code "707707" on it |
| 07:48.54 | Corrodias | or 55738008 |
| 07:48.58 | Corrodias | er |
| 07:49.03 | Corrodias | 55378008 |
| 07:49.05 | Tekkub | 6 digits |
| 07:49.17 | Corrodias | it's theirs; they can put whatever they want on it :( |
| 07:51.01 | Tekkub | I think my bear mount is constipated... he makes a LOT of noise |
| 07:52.15 | Vilkku | one thing I can't figure out about the keycode is: what happens if you press the button but don't log in? |
| 07:52.27 | Vilkku | or someone presses the button like 10 times in a row? |
| 07:52.39 | Corrodias | the key isn't disqualified for future use, but it's unlikely that it will generate it again ever |
| 07:52.47 | Vilkku | I know I won't be able to restrain myself from pressing it all the time :P |
| 07:52.48 | Corrodias | that's what i think anyway |
| 07:53.12 | Corrodias | since time is a seed, you'll be "missing" codes whether or not you push the button |
| 07:53.22 | Vilkku | ah, it uses time |
| 07:53.26 | Tekkub | well there's two theories as to how it works, but the mostlikely is that it takes your fob's id, the current time (rounded to 30sec) and hashes it |
| 07:53.30 | Vilkku | that makes perfect sense :P |
| 07:53.31 | Tekkub | gives you part of the hash |
| 07:53.50 | Tekkub | the other theory is that the id is the random seed to a generator |
| 07:54.00 | Tekkub | hash seems more secure |
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| 07:54.50 | Tekkub | damnit |
| 07:55.01 | Fisker- | haha fail @ EA |
| 07:55.12 | Fisker- | They were doing C&C primetime |
| 07:55.21 | Fisker- | and they were asking about the red alert 3 beta |
| 07:55.37 | Tekkub | command and conqueer? |
| 07:55.38 | Fisker- | and the developer said "It's going to be in July" and the "interviewer" said "Late july" |
| 07:55.48 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 07:56.53 | vithos | release date still supposed to be mid october i guess? |
| 07:57.09 | vithos | i was just looking at screens of that yesterday, looks kinda cool |
| 08:01.24 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:03.32 | Vilkku | blizzard have really screwed up the streams for WWI |
| 08:03.50 | Cairenn | grrrr, lowercase i |
| 08:05.00 | Corrodias | for WW2 |
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| 08:09.04 | Fisker- | GET SOUND DAMNIT |
| 08:09.04 | Fisker- | BAWW |
| 08:09.13 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker- |
| 08:09.13 | purl | shoves a crumpet down Fisker-'s throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 08:09.20 | Thunder_Child | mmmmm....jam |
| 08:09.30 | Vilkku | I agree with Fisker- :) |
| 08:09.36 | Vilkku | sound kthx |
| 08:09.37 | Rabbitbunny | Awesome, It works. |
| 08:09.50 | Vilkku | you get sound? |
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| 08:15.30 | Vilkku | sound! |
| 08:15.35 | Vilkku | me gets it. |
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| 08:39.01 | Fisker- | pure phailage |
| 08:39.35 | Fisker- | wtfudge |
| 08:39.40 | Daedals | ? |
| 08:39.44 | Fisker- | she knew how to translate horadric cube ;_; |
| 08:40.58 | Fisker- | le lore ;_; |
| 08:41.25 | Corrodias | who? |
| 08:50.49 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 08:51.19 | Diskmaster | Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries! |
| 08:51.31 | Arrowmaster | lol walk down street without being attacked by 15 goatmen |
| 08:51.49 | Corrodias | you can't, in diablo 3! |
| 08:52.13 | Corrodias | unless you guys are, like, watching something related to d3 and my comment therefore isn't at all clever. not that it is anyway. |
| 08:52.29 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:52.38 | Arrowmaster | was a comment from lead world designer |
| 08:52.54 | Arrowmaster | fucking french are wasting half the time |
| 08:54.09 | Arrowmaster | haha dev checks his watch |
| 08:54.36 | Corrodias | wanting to know the time is a crime, in france |
| 08:54.50 | Arrowmaster | no waiting for the french translator |
| 08:57.32 | Fisker- | blizzard owned them there |
| 08:57.37 | Fisker- | "Thanks for the diablo3 site" |
| 08:57.38 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 08:58.58 | Daedals | nice dungeon things coming |
| 09:00.22 | Arrowmaster | oh wotlk talks on toury stream |
| 09:01.19 | Stanzilla | they just said wotlk is more focused on pvp :/ |
| 09:01.27 | Stanzilla | only 4 lvl 80 instances |
| 09:01.40 | Arrowmaster | quiting the game |
| 09:03.06 | Arrowmaster | oh rolf |
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| 09:03.15 | Arrowmaster | heroics going to be easymode |
| 09:04.05 | Daedals | lol he didnt say that |
| 09:04.11 | Arrowmaster | did too |
| 09:04.29 | Arrowmaster | said not having a protection spec'd tank or a holy healer wouldnt be a problem for heroics |
| 09:04.30 | Mikk | 4 lvl 80 instances? bollox |
| 09:04.33 | Mikk | 4 hubs maybe |
| 09:05.18 | Daedals | but are the 4 those 10/25 ? |
| 09:05.24 | Fisker- | we only had 5 level 70 instances with TBC as far as i know |
| 09:05.55 | Daedals | yes, 4 instances + several raids |
| 09:06.06 | Fisker- | obviously they're not talking raids |
| 09:06.10 | Fisker- | but 5-mans |
| 09:06.21 | Corrodias | i have 9 mans on my account |
| 09:06.26 | Corrodias | but they is not being played |
| 09:06.36 | Daedals | what did he say about warlock summoning? |
| 09:06.45 | Corrodias | are you watching something live? |
| 09:06.49 | Arrowmaster | that the changes were good |
| 09:06.51 | Corrodias | or streamed? |
| 09:07.08 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:07.15 | Daedals | live stream from WWI |
| 09:07.46 | Daedals | http://eu.blizzard.com/wwi08/streams.xml |
| 09:07.58 | Daedals | NAXX! |
| 09:08.00 | Arrowmaster | NAXX! |
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| 09:09.13 | Stanzilla | 4HM with 10 people...fun |
| 09:09.16 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:09.16 | Daedals | oooh 10 man naxx |
| 09:10.10 | Arrowmaster | 4HM 10man will require 8 warrior tanks and 2 full healing speced healers |
| 09:10.30 | Stanzilla | nono |
| 09:10.39 | Stanzilla | do not restrict tanks to warriors^^ |
| 09:10.54 | Stanzilla | they want everyone to be able to tank stuff => shaman tanks! |
| 09:11.14 | Corrodias | meh, eventually, it'll be done by 9 holy paladins. |
| 09:11.52 | Diskmaster | :( Lack of diskspace is going to be a problem. |
| 09:12.16 | Arrowmaster | 3 classes? |
| 09:12.19 | Arrowmaster | i call bullshit |
| 09:12.20 | Daedals | hmm who is chatting in the WWI witha laptop? :D |
| 09:14.02 | Daedals | championing ? |
| 09:14.09 | Arrowmaster | tabards? |
| 09:14.14 | Fisker- | lol? |
| 09:14.14 | Arrowmaster | great |
| 09:14.18 | Stanzilla | that sounds fun |
| 09:14.19 | Arrowmaster | more fucking bankspace |
| 09:14.20 | Fisker- | tabards have always been on exalted |
| 09:14.21 | Fisker- | ... |
| 09:14.22 | Arrowmaster | to waste |
| 09:14.40 | Daedals | wooo nice update |
| 09:14.47 | Fisker- | WTB tabardringbinder |
| 09:14.58 | Arrowmaster | srsly |
| 09:15.02 | Arrowmaster | boo |
| 09:15.05 | Arrowmaster | hes a fucking alliance |
| 09:15.07 | Daedals | nice system |
| 09:15.15 | Arrowmaster | he said honor hold instead of thrallmar |
| 09:15.33 | Fisker- | not really |
| 09:15.35 | Daedals | :D |
| 09:15.44 | Fisker- | it's just putting a small modifier on rep gain |
| 09:15.52 | Fisker- | could've done that without the retarded requirement of tabards |
| 09:15.53 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 09:16.13 | Fisker- | fuck this i'm watching SC2 |
| 09:16.15 | Fisker- | err |
| 09:16.16 | Fisker- | SC |
| 09:16.25 | Arrowmaster | wheres my thorium brotherhood tabard |
| 09:16.28 | Daedals | well its not a modifier, because you can get different rep than the faction of the dungeon |
| 09:17.04 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 09:18.07 | Daedals | if you put on a cenarion tabard and go to ramparts, you get thrallmar/honor hold and cenarion rep |
| 09:19.07 | Fisker- | That's just retarded |
| 09:19.36 | Arrowmaster | im laughing |
| 09:19.52 | Arrowmaster | saying that deathknight was chose because of lack of tanks |
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| 09:20.03 | Arrowmaster | yet warrior is the most popular class on like every server |
| 09:20.04 | Daedals | retarded?? you're being negative |
| 09:20.08 | Fisker- | no |
| 09:20.12 | Daedals | well |
| 09:20.16 | Daedals | in our server |
| 09:20.31 | Daedals | there is a lot of warriors but no one wants to tank |
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| 09:20.35 | Fisker- | Especially with a faction like the Cenarion Expedition they do not like the idea of murder |
| 09:20.38 | Daedals | "no thanks im fury" |
| 09:20.48 | Fisker- | So i'll get reputation by doing something fundementally against their beliefs? |
| 09:20.49 | Fisker- | good job |
| 09:20.51 | Corrodias | amazingly, there are even some paladins who don't tank |
| 09:20.56 | Corrodias | i don't know what's wrong with them |
| 09:21.03 | Daedals | well that was an example |
| 09:21.03 | Daedals | -.- |
| 09:21.10 | Fisker- | yes? |
| 09:21.20 | Corrodias | i don't think the cenarion expedition has any problem with killing demons and fel orcs |
| 09:21.26 | Arrowmaster | well pallys have to respec |
| 09:21.27 | Corrodias | they're not pleased with attacking nature |
| 09:21.28 | Daedals | its maybe only for the wotlk instances |
| 09:21.29 | Fisker- | "well that was an example" |
| 09:21.40 | Fisker- | Corrodias yeah and what if i go grind critters? |
| 09:21.51 | Daedals | the you get nothing |
| 09:21.58 | Fisker- | THE IDEA PEOPLE |
| 09:22.01 | Daedals | only instances |
| 09:22.04 | Corrodias | you don't get rep for anything from killing animals, do you? |
| 09:22.05 | Arrowmaster | im guessing you have to actually earn rep to get the bonus |
| 09:22.14 | Corrodias | random ones i mean |
| 09:22.27 | Fisker- | ^^ i'm with stupid ;_; |
| 09:22.42 | Fisker- | I'm gonna make it a bit more retarded for you guys then |
| 09:22.43 | Daedals | you must first get the tabard, then you'll get the bonus if you wear it |
| 09:22.44 | Arrowmaster | fail camera man |
| 09:22.53 | Fisker- | A faction has certain beliefs, goals, etc. (Lore omg) |
| 09:23.02 | Fisker- | Another faction has other beliefs, goals, etc (LOLLORE) |
| 09:23.19 | Corrodias | all facions have this goal: kill shit, earn rep, get lewt, play wow. |
| 09:23.27 | Fisker- | Why should i gain faction for faction A, which doesn't follow their beliefs, goals, ideal, etc. |
| 09:23.31 | Daedals | well just like corrodias said: "i don't think the cenarion expedition has any problem with killing demons and fel orcs" |
| 09:23.39 | Fisker- | FOR FUCKS SAKE |
| 09:23.42 | Daedals | because |
| 09:23.57 | Fisker- | [11:21:01] <Daedals> well that was an example |
| 09:24.00 | Fisker- | [11:21:01] <Daedals> well that was an example |
| 09:24.02 | Fisker- | [11:21:01] <Daedals> well that was an example |
| 09:24.04 | Fisker- | [11:21:01] <Daedals> well that was an example |
| 09:24.07 | Arrowmaster | DOWN TROLL |
| 09:24.08 | Fisker- | i'm off |
| 09:24.09 | Daedals | ? |
| 09:24.15 | Corrodias | Fisker- has some hormones today |
| 09:24.19 | Daedals | what about that? |
| 09:24.29 | Daedals | it was an example |
| 09:24.37 | Fisker- | Please do understand that while CE may not care about killing demons and fel orcs, there may be other factions feeling other about something completely different |
| 09:24.55 | Fisker- | This is not only for Cenarion Expedition rep in Ramparts |
| 09:24.55 | Daedals | so are there? |
| 09:24.56 | Fisker- | you see? |
| 09:24.57 | Corrodias | i don't think there are any player-supporting factions that don't like you killing demons |
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| 09:25.02 | Fisker- | There is more than ONE faction in the game |
| 09:25.06 | Fisker- | not only Cenarion Expedition |
| 09:25.33 | Fisker- | some sick concepts being thrown out here |
| 09:25.33 | Corrodias | nor any that dislike clearing the bog of demons, nor any that mind people clearing the tombs of ghosts |
| 09:25.37 | Daedals | with the tabard you dont have to do several days of exhaustive grind of same instance to get the rep |
| 09:25.40 | Fisker- | gonna give you a moment to catch your breath |
| 09:25.53 | Fisker- | again Corrodias is that their goal or ideal? |
| 09:25.53 | Corrodias | give us an actual example that supports your position, then |
| 09:25.56 | Daedals | my breath? speak of yourself lol |
| 09:26.01 | Fisker- | I have done that already |
| 09:26.07 | Daedals | well? |
| 09:26.09 | Corrodias | ah. no. |
| 09:26.24 | Corrodias | being a hero while advertising that you work for them, though, that's cool |
| 09:26.26 | Fisker- | Again mine was just an example |
| 09:26.37 | Fisker- | EXACTLY Corrodias |
| 09:26.49 | Fisker- | so you do something THEY DON'T WANT while ADVERTISING for them |
| 09:26.50 | Daedals | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.10 | Corrodias | no, you're doing something that doesn't particularly interest them, not that they "don't want" |
| 09:27.19 | Fisker- | In this case perhaps |
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| 09:27.25 | Corrodias | but they do enjoy having high-profile people doing The Lord's Work in their name |
| 09:27.49 | Fisker- | If it doesn't particularly interest them, why should it have any effect at all? |
| 09:27.50 | Daedals | exaclty |
| 09:28.00 | Corrodias | because "they do enjoy having high-profile people doing The Lord's Work in their name" |
| 09:28.02 | Daedals | that is the idea |
| 09:28.05 | Fisker- | "You did something good, but it didn't help our cause, we don't give a shit" |
| 09:28.12 | Daedals | no |
| 09:28.14 | Fisker- | yes |
| 09:28.45 | Daedals | its like "a hero in our tabard went and killed a boss, we get the honors, he gets rep" |
| 09:28.47 | Corrodias | that's one outlook, Fisker-, but not all people share that |
| 09:29.03 | Fisker- | I know Daedals |
| 09:29.15 | Fisker- | But Cenarion Expedition is about preserving the nature, not killing bosses |
| 09:29.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:29.26 | Arrowmaster | 'enough room for your camera' |
| 09:29.33 | Fisker- | Infact they're majorly a passive faction unless it's for their own cause |
| 09:29.34 | Daedals | show us the damn screenshot!!! |
| 09:29.35 | Arrowmaster | are these not the same devs that did sunwell? |
| 09:29.42 | Fisker- | so infact they do not LIKE VIOLENCE UNLESS IT HELPS THEIR CAUSE |
| 09:29.53 | Fisker- | So you are infact doing something they DO NOT WANT |
| 09:30.05 | Fisker- | <-starcraft tiems |
| 09:30.20 | Snago | For once I agree with Fisker-, it should give -rep :P |
| 09:30.23 | Corrodias | hm, could be |
| 09:30.32 | Corrodias | sadly, blizzard probably doesn't give that much consideration |
| 09:30.55 | Corrodias | their concern for WoW making sense and/or not killing prominent characters is... popularly believed to be lacking |
| 09:31.46 | Daedals | they only wanted to get rid of the rep grinding |
| 09:31.47 | Snago | "Aww, crap... I forgot to change my tabard before I went and slaughtered all those innocent women and children. Now I lost 4k rep with CE :(" |
| 09:32.00 | Fisker- | lol |
| 09:32.09 | Fisker- | they took off the F1 button on the SC tourney |
| 09:32.24 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 09:32.24 | Fisker- | Snago i'm not saying it wouldn't have stupid downsides |
| 09:32.26 | Corrodias | if they wanted to get rid of the rep grinding (which would be contrary to the wow philosophy of grind is good), they'd get rid of it |
| 09:32.34 | Fisker- | But that's why i think it's a bad idea, story-wise to begin with. |
| 09:32.38 | Fisker- | on the keyboard Arrowmaster |
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| 09:33.11 | Arrowmaster | lol removing faction requirement to teleport to CoT |
| 09:33.20 | Daedals | wooot lvl 80 caverns of time: Old Stratholme |
| 09:34.09 | Daedals | wow "players can fight alongside arthas before you became the lich king" |
| 09:34.19 | Corrodias | oops. |
| 09:34.19 | Daedals | he* |
| 09:34.22 | Corrodias | spoilers! |
| 09:39.52 | Daedals | looks really nice |
| 09:41.12 | Daedals | q: "Will legendaries be dropped like atiesh or a random drop" |
| 09:42.00 | Daedals | a: "Wherever possible, we can make a questline like that, but sometimes its not possible" |
| 09:43.04 | Arrowmaster | they could ask twice as many questions if they kicked out the frenchies |
| 09:44.02 | Daedals | well, the whole thing is in france |
| 09:44.11 | Daedals | it's the french law -.- |
| 09:44.20 | Arrowmaster | it is? |
| 09:44.47 | Daedals | it is something like everything should be provided in french |
| 09:45.18 | Daedals | but Im just wondering about the dev panels, because they arent translated |
| 09:45.20 | Corrodias | why'd they have it in France of all places? |
| 09:45.24 | Daedals | maybe it would take too long |
| 09:45.28 | Arrowmaster | yes they are |
| 09:45.47 | Arrowmaster | the guy kept pausing to wait for the french translator |
| 09:46.16 | Daedals | luckily it was only in the headphones so we couldnt hear it |
| 09:46.52 | Daedals | someoe said that it is in the middle of europe |
| 09:46.56 | Daedals | someone* |
| 09:47.09 | Daedals | ad also the vivendi games company is french |
| 09:47.19 | Daedals | and* omg I typo too much |
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| 09:48.59 | Stanzilla | lol wtf |
| 09:49.07 | Stanzilla | "i can't beat normal dungeons :(" |
| 09:49.09 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 09:49.10 | Daedals | o.o wtf |
| 09:49.55 | Daedals | poor man |
| 09:50.36 | Daedals | maybe he has friend who come with him and they such |
| 09:50.39 | Daedals | suck* |
| 09:50.59 | Arrowmaster | so 2 dev panels left and the first one is pvp |
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| 09:52.31 | Arrowmaster | why does this music not sound blizzardish |
| 09:55.32 | Daedals | ? |
| 09:55.39 | Daedals | Im looking at the main stage now |
| 09:56.44 | Arrowmaster | main stage should be SC tourny right now |
| 09:57.04 | Daedals | yes it is |
| 09:57.11 | Daedals | but later the pvp thingy |
| 09:58.17 | Arrowmaster | in 1.5 hours |
| 09:58.26 | Arrowmaster | im going to bed since i dont even care about pvp |
| 09:59.30 | Daedals | I just woke up |
| 09:59.45 | Daedals | my clock is one hour before paris time |
| 10:00.09 | Daedals | or after |
| 10:00.10 | Daedals | lol |
| 10:00.27 | Daedals | like 10 in paris is 11 here |
| 10:01.48 | Arrowmaster | so your east of paris? |
| 10:02.09 | Arrowmaster | im really far west of paris but im still going to bed now |
| 10:02.31 | Arrowmaster | 6am here |
| 10:02.59 | Daedals | k :) |
| 10:03.12 | Daedals | 13:00 here and I just woke up |
| 10:03.20 | Daedals | before the dungeon thing |
| 10:08.10 | cncfanatics | god damn |
| 10:08.56 | cncfanatics | I can't decide wether to study Applied Engineer: Computer Science or Applied Computer Science |
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| 10:36.39 | durcyn | hm, anyone have a current repo url for clad's stuff? his googlecode projects seem to be abandoned =( |
| 10:38.32 | Fisker- | baww |
| 10:40.43 | Stanzilla | durcyn: wowi svn I guess |
| 10:41.29 | durcyn | oh, right. whose urls are obfuscated. arg. |
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| 11:01.39 | wereHamster | heh, the blizzard keychain token announcement finally hit slashdot |
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| 11:05.54 | Corrodias | if they make them work for diablo3 accounts, and d3 accounts are something worth keeping, then i might get one |
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| 11:31.20 | Fisker- | Corrodias since it's the "Blizzard authenticator" it'll probably be game-wide |
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| 11:33.20 | Daedals | woo PvP panel |
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| 11:50.20 | Fisker- | HAHA YOU SO FUNNY KALGAN |
| 11:50.22 | Fisker- | DO GO IN |
| 11:50.24 | Fisker- | ON* |
| 11:51.14 | Daedals | :D |
| 11:51.22 | Daedals | that zone will be EPIC |
| 11:51.30 | Fisker- | nah |
| 11:52.07 | _rane | where's kalgan? |
| 11:52.21 | Daedals | WWI |
| 11:52.43 | _rane | stream? |
| 11:53.19 | Daedals | lol he said that again :D |
| 11:53.21 | Daedals | yes |
| 11:53.40 | Daedals | air bombers! |
| 11:55.32 | _rane | omfg |
| 11:55.40 | _rane | they have come up with something very retarded |
| 11:55.54 | Daedals | :D epic battle |
| 11:56.08 | Daedals | thats the place where I go when wotlk is released |
| 11:56.19 | Daedals | it will be crowded |
| 12:24.35 | wereHamster | 'Fisker- slaps wereHamster', why? |
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| 12:45.46 | Shirik | wereHamster: Because he's Fisker- |
| 12:50.48 | _rane | is there a function for time and date? |
| 12:52.12 | wereHamster | _rane: GetTime() |
| 12:52.23 | _rane | that's the computer time |
| 12:52.28 | _rane | uptime |
| 12:53.01 | wereHamster | right. I don't think there is anything resembling os.date in the wow sandbox |
| 12:54.20 | zenzelezz | "time() is a reference to the Lua os.time function. It is put in the global table as the os module is not available." -- don't know if that'll do you any good |
| 12:54.48 | _rane | that's unix timestamp? |
| 12:55.00 | _rane | hm |
| 12:55.01 | Shirik | !api os.time |
| 12:55.01 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'os.time' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-os.time |
| 12:55.04 | zenzelezz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_functions |
| 12:55.13 | zenzelezz | date() and time() are near the top there |
| 12:55.18 | zenzelezz | try them, at least |
| 12:55.21 | _rane | nice |
| 12:55.32 | _rane | date() exactly what i was looking for |
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| 13:14.07 | Gnarfoz | great |
| 13:14.17 | Gnarfoz | US gameplay trailer is just encoded at a higher bitrate |
| 13:14.29 | Gnarfoz | and has a stupid T rating logo in front |
| 13:16.15 | sylvanaar | arghhh!! want WAR beta key (will pay, PM if you have one) |
| 13:16.51 | zenzelezz | WAR? |
| 13:17.02 | sylvanaar | ham ... er |
| 13:18.22 | Gnarfoz | a.k.a. bleh game |
| 13:18.23 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 13:18.44 | sylvanaar | speaking of - i renewed my wow sub for a month |
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| 13:31.34 | Daedals | warhammer age of reconin |
| 13:31.36 | Daedals | g |
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| 15:22.43 | kd3 | so, what's the news this morning? |
| 15:22.51 | Fisker- | fail |
| 15:22.54 | Fisker- | is the news |
| 15:23.06 | Fisker- | some stuff about the new bg and lake wintergrasp |
| 15:24.05 | Fisker- | anyways looks like i was right about the northrend bg :P |
| 15:24.23 | Fisker- | One team will attack and the other one defend, you will have a specific amount of time to succeed. After the end of the round teams will switch sides. |
| 15:24.23 | Fisker- | Attackers will come from boats and defenders will start in the middle of the beach. |
| 15:24.52 | kd3 | oh whee, UT assault maps in wow |
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| 15:25.34 | Fisker- | lol |
| 15:25.36 | Fisker- | "Resizing photos to fit on a 4,3GB DVD" |
| 15:25.50 | Fisker- | i was like "Stop using 1 GPixel cameras" |
| 15:25.51 | Fisker- | :P |
| 15:27.00 | Dark_Elf | hehe i like it when people email pics and they use bmp and they are over 3mb, im thinking geez use jpg next time lol |
| 15:34.19 | cncfanatics | png tbh |
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| 16:16.24 | nevcairiel | does anyone know if all the WWI streams from the weekend are accessible somewhere in recorded form? ;) |
| 16:16.41 | Fisker- | youtoob |
| 16:16.43 | Fisker- | probably |
| 16:16.51 | Fisker- | and i think blizzard usually puts them up |
| 16:16.54 | Fisker- | but you didn't miss much |
| 16:17.11 | Fisker- | Questions were like: 1+1 = 2? |
| 16:17.18 | Fisker- | And then stupid questions like: 1+1 = 3? |
| 16:17.42 | Vangual | for extremely large versions of 1 maybe |
| 16:17.43 | nevcairiel | essentially i only want to listen to the developer panels, not the QA shit |
| 16:21.06 | Fisker- | someone asked if Starcraft 2 would be out for PC and Mac as well btw |
| 16:22.03 | Fisker- | also PLX GIEV LINUX PORT ;_; |
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| 17:21.35 | MentalPower | I tuned in right on time, L70ETC :) |
| 17:23.17 | MentalPower | Looks like Paris is not cooperating with Samwise |
| 17:23.59 | Fisker- | ? |
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| 17:24.21 | kd3 | jetlagged? or he still drunk? >.>; |
| 17:24.50 | MentalPower | Fisker-: WWI main stage stream |
| 17:25.01 | MentalPower | kd3: dunno :P |
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| 17:33.01 | Anaral | Is there currently no sound or is something up with my stream? |
| 17:33.18 | nevcairiel | there is no sound currently |
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| 17:38.01 | cncfanatics | god, the latest ATI drivers are TOTALY fucked up |
| 17:38.04 | Fisker- | sound currently there is not? |
| 17:38.07 | cncfanatics | just upgraded, had to downgrade again :s |
| 17:38.32 | nevcairiel | ATI and drivers, when will they learn :P |
| 17:39.02 | Anaral | Lol |
| 17:39.15 | Anaral | I guess they don't want the web to hear them do sound checks? |
| 17:47.24 | Anaral | Okay what are the artists at Blizz smoking? http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/june/wotlk/screenshots/Tauren-shaman-prepares-to-fight-a-shovel-tusk-in-Howling-Fjord.jpg |
| 17:50.09 | Matrix110 | Video Games Live now! |
| 17:50.16 | Cide | haven't those been on the wrath page for months? |
| 17:50.30 | kd3 | yes |
| 17:50.39 | Anaral | I hadn't seen them |
| 17:51.03 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Shovel_tusk |
| 17:54.34 | Shirik | nevcairiel: More like, when will cncfanatics learn not to use ATI :) |
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| 18:00.35 | Matrix110 | The concert is really nice |
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| 18:02.34 | cncfanatics | Shirik: I have this comp since 7yrs ago :p |
| 18:02.41 | cncfanatics | buying a laptop soonish, with nvidia |
| 18:02.50 | Matrix110 | laptop:P |
| 18:03.13 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with that ? |
| 18:03.21 | Matrix110 | that it is a laptop |
| 18:03.48 | cncfanatics | yea, and whats wrong with a laptop ? |
| 18:03.52 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna program a lot on it and play WoW -.- |
| 18:04.26 | cncfanatics | and its handy for in the train |
| 18:04.29 | Matrix110 | shitty graphic card(all of them), small screen, drink+Laptop= worse than drink+Keyboard and no Mouse (yeah i know you can connect all of it) |
| 18:04.32 | amro | there isn't much difference these days, might as well go with a laptop |
| 18:04.41 | Matrix110 | Well if you dont game ok |
| 18:04.53 | amro | Matrix110: I have a laptop that runs UT3 at full settings |
| 18:04.55 | cncfanatics | train + laptop > train + desktop computer |
| 18:05.01 | amro | and it's not even an expensive one |
| 18:05.04 | cncfanatics | big time |
| 18:05.28 | Lukian | are Shovel Tusks tamable? XD |
| 18:05.40 | Matrix110 | Having a good desktop PC and a "sucky" Laptop is better imho |
| 18:06.38 | cncfanatics | I have a very sucky desktop PC |
| 18:06.57 | cncfanatics | and I'm gonna need a laptop for the daily 2h of train I'm gonna have from september on |
| 18:07.02 | cncfanatics | can't afford both at once tbh :p |
| 18:07.24 | Matrix110 | Hope you get a extra battery then :P |
| 18:07.39 | Matrix110 | If you want to watch movies/Series in the train its dry fast |
| 18:07.45 | amro | only thing that sucks about laptops these days is that they're almost all widescreen |
| 18:07.58 | Matrix110 | widescreen is great |
| 18:08.05 | amro | not if you program |
| 18:08.11 | nevcairiel | widescreen is awesome for coding |
| 18:08.11 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 18:08.13 | nevcairiel | longer lines = win |
| 18:08.25 | Matrix110 | WS is the best happening for Monitors imho :P |
| 18:08.30 | amro | I'd rather see more lines |
| 18:08.40 | Matrix110 | On a 22" you see enough lines :P |
| 18:08.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Man, them blizzard guys are professionals |
| 18:08.47 | Lukian | then rotate the monitor, amro. |
| 18:08.55 | Matrix110 | or ye |
| 18:08.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The D3 gameplay video - the audio is 100% uncompressed |
| 18:08.57 | Matrix110 | Pivot |
| 18:09.06 | Matrix110 | ScytheBlade1 lol? :P |
| 18:09.09 | amro | er |
| 18:09.13 | ScytheBlade1 | And further, the video is specified in the mpeg container at the wrong framerate |
| 18:09.18 | amro | laptop |
| 18:09.22 | amro | not futuristic supergismo |
| 18:09.28 | ScytheBlade1 | So after just a few seconds at most, the audio and video is entirely out of sync |
| 18:09.35 | Matrix110 | 20mins of wav is 250MB alone that kinda cant be |
| 18:09.46 | ScytheBlade1 | It's PCM not WAV |
| 18:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | The video is >800MB |
| 18:09.53 | Matrix110 | no |
| 18:09.56 | Matrix110 | 570MB |
| 18:10.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ls -l-rw------- 2 kyle root 808M Jun 29 00:43 Diablo3-GameplayTrailer_US.avi |
| 18:10.07 | ScytheBlade1 | 808MB |
| 18:10.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like they put up a new version in that case |
| 18:10.16 | Matrix110 | now we got the reason why the US one is so much bigger |
| 18:10.22 | Matrix110 | got the enGB one |
| 18:10.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:10.36 | nevcairiel | only US one is broken :P |
| 18:10.39 | Matrix110 | gb Trailer has sync audio all the time |
| 18:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder |
| 18:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Matrix110: poorly synched audio? |
| 18:11.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Or properly synched audio? |
| 18:11.10 | nevcairiel | proper |
| 18:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm k |
| 18:11.36 | Matrix110 | enGB has mp3 audio |
| 18:11.47 | Matrix110 | 160kb/s |
| 18:12.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the enUS version is encoded at the standard 29.976 FPS |
| 18:12.35 | ScytheBlade1 | But the video should only be running... so far, no more than 20FPS |
| 18:13.15 | Matrix110 | enGB is according to gspot at 29,976fps but runs fine |
| 18:14.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, that's... just really weird |
| 18:15.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Now the audio seems synched fine at standard 29.976 |
| 18:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's see if it breaks in a bit |
| 18:16.19 | Matrix110 | most video players have a option to drop frames if video/audio get oos |
| 18:16.23 | Matrix110 | dunno if that helps |
| 18:16.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I just need to play with the mplayer options more |
| 18:16.37 | Shirik | most video players don't do that at all :P |
| 18:16.40 | Shirik | DirectShow does |
| 18:16.43 | Fisker- | your mothers |
| 18:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 18:17.08 | Shirik | so long as the DirectShow graph is connected properly, it should handle that automatically |
| 18:17.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the audio left and right channels are swapped too |
| 18:17.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, they are |
| 18:17.35 | Matrix110 | ok the US video is totally fucked then :P |
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| 18:17.58 | Matrix110 | Ok Livestream + Piano = noise cracks its annoying |
| 18:18.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It's really hard to tell for the most part, but yeah, the audio streams are backwards |
| 18:18.08 | MentalPower | aye |
| 18:18.10 | MentalPower | its clipping |
| 18:18.40 | Fisker- | O HAI I SAID |
| 18:19.20 | wereHamster | < ScytheBlade1> It's PCM not WAV - wave files usually contain pcm data, so what did you want to say? |
| 18:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: there are a few differing WAV formats, and windows can be notorious for giving you the wrong encoding |
| 18:20.37 | Matrix110 | ~wiki wav |
| 18:21.00 | Matrix110 | ~botsmack |
| 18:21.01 | purl | OWW! |
| 18:21.31 | nevcairiel | PCM is the default encoding for WAV files |
| 18:21.48 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1: hence why I said 'usually' |
| 18:22.04 | MentalPower | ACM is the other |
| 18:22.15 | MentalPower | with its miriad of encoding |
| 18:23.30 | nevcairiel | you can have mp3 data in a .wav file too |
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| 18:27.33 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: aye, thru acm |
| 18:27.34 | MentalPower | but its really hacky |
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| 18:28.56 | MentalPower | I much prefer Vangie Gunn's rendition of Lament of the Highborne |
| 18:31.20 | Fisker- | bah |
| 18:31.26 | Fisker- | stupid octoshape have ruined my interwebs |
| 18:36.18 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | So the audio sync issues.... happened to be my CPU not clocking up to the speeds it needed to play the video |
| 18:36.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Gogo mplayer not using my second core |
| 18:37.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Though the audio is still uncompressed pcm |
| 18:37.49 | nevcairiel | wouldve suprised me, if that changed =P |
| 18:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | And yeah, the left/right channels are still swapped |
| 18:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Though that may just be a bug or lack of proper audio positioning in their engine right now |
| 18:38.16 | nevcairiel | get the enGB version |
| 18:38.17 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:38.53 | kachna | hey guys,i wanna make a completely tardproof macro for getting Towering Infernals during anetheron fight...to be able to spam it when he casts already,make sure it targets the infernal and not any player or boss when it actually casts the spell... |
| 18:38.55 | nevcairiel | still downloading, i can check if its wrong once its done |
| 18:38.55 | kachna | http://www.pastebin.cz/show/6545 |
| 18:39.14 | Fisker- | .o/ nevcairiel |
| 18:39.22 | kachna | is this enough to make it 100% reliable? :P |
| 18:39.37 | nevcairiel | I dont think you can use mob names in [target=] attributes |
| 18:39.43 | nevcairiel | only player names |
| 18:39.45 | nevcairiel | or raid ids |
| 18:39.53 | kachna | :/ damn |
| 18:39.57 | ScytheBlade1 | kachna: you can't [target=name] when name is an enemy |
| 18:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You can only use UnitIds and people in your party/raid |
| 18:40.47 | kachna | mm so..unitid,like the mob id i see on...say wowhead or tuff? |
| 18:40.49 | kachna | *stuff |
| 18:40.51 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 18:40.52 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:40.55 | kachna | damn,thought so :P |
| 18:40.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Like "player" "target" and "raid12" |
| 18:41.07 | kachna | humm |
| 18:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Note: "enemy" and "enemy1" don't exist :) |
| 18:41.23 | kachna | so how can i make sure i wont actually cast it on boss? :P |
| 18:41.27 | kachna | ye ofc :D |
| 18:41.32 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId |
| 18:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Use your eyes and don't cast it on the boss ;) |
| 18:41.36 | nevcairiel | l2p imho :P |
| 18:42.09 | Matrix110 | Just tell people that gets the Infernal to come to spot X |
| 18:42.12 | Matrix110 | if they dont |
| 18:42.14 | kachna | well thing is i have quite low fps there,and am out of money,so i need stuff :P |
| 18:42.14 | Matrix110 | kill em |
| 18:42.26 | MentalPower | you can use /target <name> or /targetexact <name> |
| 18:42.44 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.48 | kachna | targetting by mouse just wont work :D well it does,but can be faster |
| 18:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.16 | ScytheBlade1 | It's possible to make a macro that you want, but that's a lot of effort |
| 18:43.26 | kachna | woot |
| 18:43.28 | Matrix110 | noes its over |
| 18:43.35 | kachna | :\ |
| 18:43.50 | kachna | you sure? :) |
| 18:43.57 | Slakah | standing up ovation :P |
| 18:44.14 | Fisker- | anyone wanna play SC2? |
| 18:44.47 | Gnarfoz | sure. |
| 18:44.57 | Fisker- | cool |
| 18:45.03 | Fisker- | just put it on my usb stick at WWI |
| 18:45.08 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 18:45.09 | kachna | hmm basically,if i'll just clear target at start of the macro,it wont cast on the boss/player right? :P |
| 18:45.29 | Shirik | what's the most seamless way to perform text substitutions in party messages? I.e., a good function to hook? Any suggestions? |
| 18:45.32 | Gnarfoz | probably butchered so it can't serve games on its own |
| 18:45.52 | Fisker- | you'd think so |
| 18:46.00 | Gnarfoz | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz |
| 18:46.02 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 18:46.12 | kachna | well ty for help guys :) |
| 18:46.12 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 18:46.13 | nevcairiel | Shirik: ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 18:46.15 | kd3 | rofl... they left the computers accessible? they were locked in a case at blizzcon. all we had access to was the mouse, keyboard and monitor |
| 18:46.23 | Gnarfoz | damn +m channels preventing nick change |
| 18:46.24 | Shirik | that's in ChatFrame.lua? |
| 18:46.33 | Fisker- | kd3 like i were at WWI |
| 18:46.40 | Shirik | thanks nevcairiel :) |
| 18:46.58 | Fisker- | i would probably be raped if i were to try anything like that |
| 18:46.59 | Fisker- | :o |
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| 18:47.09 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | then... you're just bored again? |
| 18:47.12 | Fisker- | yeha |
| 18:47.15 | Mojoe430 | Hey |
| 18:47.23 | Fisker- | i want a blizzard authenticator |
| 18:47.43 | Shirik | me too |
| 18:47.51 | Vangual | me three |
| 18:47.51 | Mojoe430 | anyone know of a good bag mod that puts all your bags into one? |
| 18:47.58 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | OneBag |
| 18:48.08 | Mojoe430 | is it still being updated? |
| 18:48.10 | Slakah | Combuctor, Bagnon and onebag |
| 18:48.20 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | who cares if its being updated if it works? :D |
| 18:48.23 | Fisker- | anyone checked if it's sold out on the us store? |
| 18:48.27 | kd3 | it works. why get needless updates for something that doesn't change from patch to patch? |
| 18:48.48 | kachna | bagnon ftw Mojoe430 :) |
| 18:49.02 | nevcairiel | Combuctor! |
| 18:49.04 | Mojoe430 | well.. i just want to know that if a patch comes out and brakes it, that they will update it or something idk |
| 18:49.16 | Mojoe430 | are these on curse? |
| 18:49.20 | Slakah | Nope |
| 18:49.30 | Slakah | Bagnon and combuctor might be |
| 18:49.30 | Mojoe430 | what site? |
| 18:49.32 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | they probably are all 3 |
| 18:49.46 | nevcairiel | www.wowinterface.com has them |
| 18:49.52 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | for Bagnon and OneBag the latest versions should probably be on wowace, too |
| 18:49.59 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | Combuctor -> wowinterface |
| 18:50.05 | kachna | ScytheBlade1: http://www.pastebin.cz/show/6546 << should cut it,shouldn't it? :p |
| 18:50.14 | nevcairiel | and gnarfoz, you already cary that stupid prefix in freenode, so get watching already =P |
| 18:50.35 | ScytheBlade1 | [target=harm] isn't valid |
| 18:50.35 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | no TV |
| 18:50.39 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | :( |
| 18:50.42 | Matrix110 | Zattoo |
| 18:50.44 | ScytheBlade1 | [target=target,harm] is though |
| 18:50.44 | Matrix110 | ARD Stream |
| 18:50.47 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | I'll just keep the window open and listen for screaming |
| 18:50.48 | Matrix110 | enough possibilites |
| 18:50.53 | kachna | ScytheBlade1: damn,why? :P |
| 18:50.57 | kd3 | but [target=target] is redundant, just use [harm] |
| 18:51.02 | kachna | oh ye right... |
| 18:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | kachna: because "harm" isn't a valid unitid |
| 18:51.13 | Matrix110 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz http://sport.ard.de/euro2008/euro_live/livestreams/medienteaser-livestreams.jsp or www.zattoo.com |
| 18:51.14 | kachna | dumb me ye i know... |
| 18:51.19 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | thx |
| 18:51.24 | kachna | thanks :) |
| 18:51.41 | Matrix110 | I think its geolocation protected though |
| 18:51.44 | Matrix110 | not sure |
| 18:51.47 | Matrix110 | Zattoo is 100% |
| 18:51.50 | kachna | last question,is there a parameter to check if thing is on cooldown? |
| 18:51.58 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 18:52.17 | kachna | mkay,well this should cut it anyways,when i'll just spam it |
| 18:52.20 | kachna | tyvm :p |
| 18:52.22 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | lol, the actual flash embed has a url parameter 'befriendlytoie6=1' |
| 18:52.23 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 18:52.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:52.36 | nevcairiel | you still dare to use ie6? |
| 18:52.40 | nevcairiel | death to ie6! |
| 18:52.41 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | ? |
| 18:52.48 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | I don't, they seem to expect people to, though |
| 18:52.56 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | and the quality is actually pretty nice, when you click on 'hd' |
| 18:53.03 | kd3 | the wiki still gets a lot of ie6 visitors |
| 18:53.14 | Matrix110 | alot people sitll use IE6 |
| 18:53.14 | nevcairiel | Any new website i design will not be tested on ie6 |
| 18:53.23 | Matrix110 | good nevcairiel |
| 18:53.32 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | I'll test mine, see that they break, and just carry on |
| 18:53.33 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 18:53.34 | kd3 | say goodbye to a not insubstantial portion of the market, then |
| 18:53.36 | Matrix110 | webstandards ftw |
| 18:54.38 | Fisker- | moar like recommendations |
| 18:55.53 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | Matrix110: zattoo quality > or < ARD stream? |
| 18:55.58 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | ARD keeps lagging :( |
| 18:56.05 | Matrix110 | Hmm Zattoo is ~400kbit |
| 18:56.08 | Matrix110 | dunno ARD stream |
| 18:56.14 | Matrix110 | checking |
| 18:56.38 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | oh wait, mp3 downloads in smartftp... lol |
| 18:56.54 | Stanzilla | smartftp is no longer freeware :( |
| 18:57.04 | Matrix110 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz in HQ the ARD stream > Zattoo |
| 18:57.09 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | yay |
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| 18:57.14 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: what |
| 18:57.32 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | sure is |
| 18:57.37 | Stanzilla | not |
| 18:57.49 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | since when? o_O |
| 18:57.56 | Stanzilla | 3.0.1017 or so |
| 18:57.56 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | 3.0 is still shows freeware for me |
| 18:58.01 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | :( |
| 18:58.14 | Fisker- | FlashFXP = WIN |
| 18:58.24 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | no, flashfxp is actually pretty shitty :p |
| 18:58.29 | Stanzilla | flashfxp != freeware |
| 18:58.35 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | that, too |
| 18:58.42 | Matrix110 | Filezilla is ok |
| 18:58.43 | Stanzilla | i use filezilla now |
| 18:58.46 | Matrix110 | used FlashFXP before |
| 18:58.48 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | flashzilla is not really my thing :\ |
| 18:58.53 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | err filezilla |
| 18:59.32 | nevcairiel | i love flashfxp, never had a issue with it |
| 18:59.43 | Stanzilla | how much does it cost? |
| 18:59.53 | nevcairiel | dont remember |
| 18:59.59 | nevcairiel | got a license some time ago |
| 19:00.00 | Fisker- | Stanzilla but FlashFXP = WIN |
| 19:00.11 | Fisker- | i think it's $20 |
| 19:00.14 | nevcairiel | USD 25 |
| 19:00.21 | Matrix110 | on Vista FlashFXP doesnt save my settings properly |
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| 19:00.22 | Fisker- | lifetime license though i believe |
| 19:00.24 | nevcairiel | which is like nothing in Euro right now :P |
| 19:01.44 | Anaral | Eww, SmartFTP is $37 a year! |
| 19:01.45 | Stanzilla | hm does it have tabs for more than one server connection? |
| 19:02.06 | nevcairiel | man stupid IE user agents, they have like 20 different user agents for every type of OS and every version of .net installed |
| 19:02.06 | Stanzilla | flashfxp that is |
| 19:02.06 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 19:02.18 | nevcairiel | i wish my webstats thing would be smarter |
| 19:02.22 | nevcairiel | and group those somehow |
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| 19:08.47 | Fisker- | kd3 |
| 19:08.49 | Fisker- | i am bored |
| 19:08.51 | Fisker- | what should i do? |
| 19:09.06 | nevcairiel | watch soccer |
| 19:10.03 | Fisker- | i hate watching |
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| 19:18.11 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | Matrix110: weird, for some reason, if you open the ARD stream directly, it's delayed by ~30secs |
| 19:18.22 | Matrix110 | i use Zattoo |
| 19:18.25 | Matrix110 | dont ask me :P |
| 19:19.01 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | d'oh! |
| 19:19.48 | nevcairiel | you hear crying before you see the reason? =P |
| 19:20.02 | kd3 | heh. what a lucky shot |
| 19:20.18 | nevcairiel | that guy is fast |
| 19:20.39 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: not now, because the stream blocks out outside sound sources for me, but yeah, quite possible |
| 19:21.27 | Matrix110 | they dont have enough Bandwith for the HQ stream so they lower the video fps :P |
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| 19:22.32 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | ? if I watch it in the flash player, it's fine |
| 19:22.33 | nevcairiel | man zattoo quality sucks |
| 19:22.45 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | also, it's llwd. they have enough bandwith for almost everything :D |
| 19:23.16 | Matrix110 | in WMP they HQ stream the sound is fine but the video only has like 2fps/sec |
| 19:23.20 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | http://gffstream.rd.llnwd.net/br/geo/asx/event_3.asx < HQ ard stream, strangely delayed by 3 secs. the same inside flash, undelayed: http://sport.ard.de/euro2008/euro_live/livestreams/medienteaser-livestreams.jsp |
| 19:23.35 | nevcairiel | so watch it in your browser :P |
| 19:23.45 | Matrix110 | I rather have Zattoo |
| 19:23.47 | Shirik | lol, using string.gsub() to call SendAddonMessage() ftw |
| 19:23.56 | Shirik | best design ever |
| 19:23.59 | nevcairiel | zattoo has shity quality :( |
| 19:24.06 | nevcairiel | compared to the HQ stream |
| 19:24.07 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | Shirik: wut |
| 19:24.29 | Shirik | my replacement function that I pass to string.gsub() calls SendAddonMessage() :D |
| 19:24.38 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:24.47 | nevcairiel | that sounds wrong |
| 19:25.01 | Shirik | Because on each match, I need to forward some information about the message as well as replace the info |
| 19:25.09 | Shirik | it works perfectly |
| 19:32.44 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | srsly :( this is not going all too well :| |
| 19:33.25 | nevcairiel | not like half-final game was any better |
| 19:33.25 | nevcairiel | more luck then anything |
| 19:34.50 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | yeah. |
| 19:36.24 | Shirik | does prat do anything evil that would prevent hooking? |
| 19:36.38 | nevcairiel | prat does lots of evil |
| 19:36.41 | sylvanaar | everything it does is evil |
| 19:36.48 | sylvanaar | it eats babies |
| 19:36.48 | SCHLAND^Gnarfoz | aaaand the kitchensink, too. |
| 19:37.04 | Shirik | in particular, if I changed arg1 for a CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL message |
| 19:37.07 | Shirik | would it completely ignore it? |
| 19:37.32 | sylvanaar | depends on when you did it |
| 19:37.45 | Shirik | I hooked ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 19:37.51 | sylvanaar | then no |
| 19:37.57 | sylvanaar | i mean yes |
| 19:38.00 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:38.04 | sylvanaar | completely ignore it |
| 19:38.32 | nevcairiel | if you only need to change arg1, you can use the chatFilter thingy too |
| 19:38.34 | sylvanaar | why are you hooking CFMEH to change arg1 |
| 19:38.45 | Shirik | nevcairiel said to :( |
| 19:38.57 | sylvanaar | moreover why are you changing arg1 |
| 19:38.57 | nevcairiel | you didnt specify what exactly you need :P |
| 19:38.59 | Shirik | yeah I just need to change arg1 |
| 19:39.18 | Shirik | it provides a little guild-based feature to transmit a little extra information over a channel during messages |
| 19:39.43 | Shirik | so I send an addon message with the data before the message, then after the channel message comes in, inject the extra info |
| 19:40.09 | Shirik | chatFilter thingy? nevcairiel? |
| 19:40.15 | nevcairiel | Shirik: ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter (event, filter) |
| 19:40.19 | nevcairiel | filter being a func |
| 19:40.21 | nevcairiel | that takes arg1 |
| 19:40.26 | Shirik | I don't usually mess with the chat frame :P |
| 19:40.37 | nevcairiel | returns 2 values |
| 19:40.43 | nevcairiel | filter and newarg1 |
| 19:40.50 | nevcairiel | if filter is true, message is skipped |
| 19:40.57 | nevcairiel | if newarg1 is set, its used |
| 19:41.36 | nevcairiel | check first 10 lines of ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 19:41.45 | Shirik | I think that makes sense |
| 19:42.33 | nevcairiel | and event would be CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL then obviously :p |
| 19:42.55 | Shirik | the filter function only takes arg1? |
| 19:43.03 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:43.07 | Shirik | not that that's important, just want to double check :) |
| 19:43.09 | nevcairiel | filter, newarg1 = filterFunc(arg1); |
| 19:46.13 | Shirik | and prat is compliant with these filter functions? |
| 19:46.17 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 19:46.26 | Shirik | good good |
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| 19:49.44 | sylvanaar | that was prat2's key innovation, replacing hooks with events, bliz finally caught on |
| 19:50.06 | Shirik | something seems a bit off, but I might be using an old version of prat too |
| 19:50.11 | Shirik | very old, as a matter of fact |
| 19:50.40 | sylvanaar | idk, afaik, that was all fixed when they added the api in 2.4 |
| 19:50.46 | Shirik | omg |
| 19:50.59 | Shirik | aren't you guys in the 70000s revisions? |
| 19:51.36 | Shirik | I'm on 46983 :( |
| 19:52.12 | sylvanaar | you need 68650+ |
| 19:52.35 | Shirik | yeah sorry :( |
| 19:52.58 | Shirik | I feel like one of those noobs that come in and blame the author about everything instantly when it's their fault now |
| 19:53.10 | Thunder_Child | ~noob Shirik |
| 19:53.11 | purl | ACTION knows that Shirik is quite the n00b! -> haha, n00b! |
| 19:53.23 | sylvanaar | whats neat is that version of prat still works |
| 19:53.29 | Shirik | yeah :) |
| 19:53.39 | Shirik | the {star} etc was annoying, but I ignored all that |
| 19:53.57 | sylvanaar | you must not use WAU |
| 19:54.04 | Shirik | nop |
| 19:55.18 | Shirik | so much better now, <3 :) |
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| 20:10.38 | Tekkub | haha, love giving noob hunters shit |
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| 20:11.13 | Tekkub | tellin this guy in our guild that if he doesn't do the pet feeding quest within 30min of getting his first pet, he won't ever be able to learn how to feed pet |
| 20:12.01 | kachna | lol? :o |
| 20:12.55 | Lopeppeppy | You're totally mean. |
| 20:15.06 | Tekkub | and now he's bitching that he bought bags I had on AH |
| 20:15.11 | Tekkub | he really is stupid sometimes |
| 20:15.20 | Lopeppeppy | And he's your guildie, congrats! |
| 20:17.00 | Tekkub | yea I'm gonna go give him two more bags |
| 20:17.07 | Tekkub | they're 100% markup on cost anyway |
| 20:17.33 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 20:39.18 | nevcairiel | heh Gnarfoz |
| 20:39.30 | Gnarfoz | ~fail Germany |
| 20:39.30 | purl | Germany, you Fail! |
| 20:39.35 | kd3 | indeed |
| 20:39.36 | Gnarfoz | in-fucking-deed |
| 20:39.45 | nevcairiel | spain deserved to win |
| 20:39.50 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:45.00 | Gnarfoz | kd3: btw, why were you watching this? aren't you from some place far away where euro championship wouldn't really be a hot topic? ^^ |
| 20:45.51 | nevcairiel | we watch the superbowl too, so who knows :) |
| 20:46.00 | kd3 | there's nothing else on? |
| 20:46.03 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:46.04 | Tekkub | *sigh* OPie look all pretty and shit, but I really don't want to have to rip it apart and rewrite it so it's useable |
| 20:46.43 | nevcairiel | i am sure foxlit would listen to your complains |
| 20:46.51 | Gnarfoz | kd3: dunno, I heard that it's not even being broadcast in the U.S. for example |
| 20:46.53 | Tekkub | foxie's the dev? |
| 20:46.58 | kd3 | it's on abc |
| 20:47.04 | kd3 | one of the big 4 broadcasters |
| 20:47.12 | Gnarfoz | hrm, then whatever ^^ |
| 20:47.17 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: last i heard, yeah |
| 20:47.39 | nevcairiel | ~opie |
| 20:47.40 | purl | somebody said opie was the Open Palmtop Integrated Environment. More info at http://opie.handhelds.org/ or in the #opie channel. Installation instructions at http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php?OpieInstallation or respect, API http://handhelds.org/~zecke/apidocs/, or a nose-hair trimming device invented by Steve Ballmer in his high-school days |
| 20:47.40 | Tekkub | well get his ass online |
| 20:47.46 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 20:48.08 | Tekkub | three big bitches... main one is that I can't spawn a menu off a unitframe and cast on that unit |
| 20:48.17 | Tekkub | #2 the config panel sucks |
| 20:48.25 | Tekkub | 3# it should obviously be named cowpie |
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| 20:51.01 | durcyn | yeah, fecking keybinds don't even work |
| 20:53.15 | Gnarfoz | wtf why are they playing PotC soundtrack music |
| 20:53.37 | Gnarfoz | at the eu 2008 finals... whatever you call a ceremony where the winner is awarded the trophy |
| 20:55.15 | Vangual | arr, they be looting that golden trophy treasure |
| 20:55.22 | Maldivia | well, I know at minor sport events, it's quite popular to just grand movie scores as as celebratory fanfare |
| 20:57.08 | Gnarfoz | just seems weird after seeing it being used in sooo many wow movies because people are unimaginative ;p |
| 20:58.05 | Tekkub | I'm not unimaginative, I'm just lazy |
| 20:58.20 | Matrix110 | Most time i use is to choose music |
| 20:59.20 | Gnarfoz | for creating movies? or in general |
| 20:59.40 | Matrix110 | for movies yes |
| 21:00.11 | Matrix110 | Trying to find songs that arent used in everywhere |
| 21:00.28 | Matrix110 | that sound mass compatible |
| 21:00.41 | kd3 | jpop? game music? |
| 21:00.42 | kd3 | >.> |
| 21:00.47 | kd3 | .C3nZC3nZC3nXENb7ChPWCxnX.cGen.ENr7C3D3CNnYD3P3CG. |
| 21:00.49 | kd3 | .C3nZC3nZC3nXENb7ChPWCxnX.cGf2.ENr7C3D3CNnYD3P3CNzXD3P2. |
| 21:00.52 | kd3 | gah |
| 21:00.53 | Gnarfoz | lol kd3 |
| 21:00.54 | Matrix110 | jpop is NOT mass compatible :P |
| 21:01.05 | Gnarfoz | fish? ^^ |
| 21:01.16 | Matrix110 | game music is to "boring" for a movie |
| 21:01.20 | Matrix110 | although I like it |
| 21:01.33 | kd3 | bah. using my cuecat scanner, had the keyboard focus in the wrong window when I was scanning |
| 21:03.10 | Matrix110 | ~wiki cuecat |
| 21:03.33 | Matrix110 | aha |
| 21:03.43 | kd3 | works as a general-purpose scanner too |
| 21:03.51 | kd3 | I'm using it to scan ISBNs of all my books |
| 21:03.51 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:04.10 | Gnarfoz | if it's scanning ISBNs, why is the output something else entirely? |
| 21:04.16 | Matrix110 | just wanted to ask that |
| 21:04.26 | kd3 | because it's encrypted with something like rot13 |
| 21:04.41 | kd3 | go search harder for cuecat. there's reports on /. from way back when about it |
| 21:05.01 | Gnarfoz | ah, so it's outputting something proprietary instead of just the numbers encoded in the barcode, I see |
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| 21:05.28 | kd3 | yah. it's a really weak form of encryption so they could go after people using the DMCA |
| 21:06.38 | Arrowmaster | thats the thing i hate about laws like that |
| 21:06.50 | Fisker- | o hai kd3 |
| 21:06.54 | kd3 | 'lo |
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| 21:07.04 | kd3 | .C3nZC3nZC3nXENb7ChPWCxnX.cGen.ENr7C3n1C3r7E3b7DW. |
| 21:07.07 | Matrix110 | stop |
| 21:07.08 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 21:07.08 | kd3 | gah |
| 21:07.09 | Gnarfoz | lol xD |
| 21:07.39 | kd3 | the annoying thing, obviously, is that it's connected via the keyboard port. |
| 21:07.46 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 21:07.51 | Gnarfoz | USB scanners do this, too |
| 21:07.53 | durcyn | most barcode scanners are |
| 21:08.14 | Gnarfoz | most modern ones aren't anymore, but USB ones type keys for you just as well |
| 21:08.16 | Matrix110 | thats why they QQ when Mainboard manufacturers remove PS/" |
| 21:08.19 | Fisker- | barcode scanners are COOL |
| 21:08.23 | Fisker- | cause they say beeps usually |
| 21:08.46 | Gnarfoz | I disabled beeps on all of them I used at my company |
| 21:08.58 | Gnarfoz | so annoying when you scan barcodes on 1000 RAMs :( |
| 21:09.07 | Fisker- | BEEP = WIN |
| 21:09.48 | Matrix110 | In the store here they do different sounds |
| 21:10.23 | Matrix110 | when the product requires age confirmation they do a BOOOOB instead of BEEP |
| 21:10.38 | Fisker- | just like your mother |
| 21:10.40 | Gnarfoz | also, funny how the Spain_national_football_team page on wikipedia is up to date in the minute the game was over^^ |
| 21:11.06 | Matrix110 | Gnarfoz somebody just sat there waiting to hit the button :P |
| 21:11.12 | Gnarfoz | obviously^^ |
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| 21:16.14 | Iriel | Having the scanner type the keys is good because it integrates with even very old POS software, and you can manually enter the codes without additional coding |
| 21:16.21 | Jinto | Hi all |
| 21:16.28 | Lopeppeppy | Evening. |
| 21:16.53 | Jinto | This is a channel of world of warcraft, right? |
| 21:16.58 | Gnarfoz | mostly |
| 21:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | What are you looking to know, Jinto? |
| 21:17.35 | Jinto | Some time (a lot of months) ago i played at WoW, but next i had uninstall it... now i'm re-installing it |
| 21:17.42 | Jinto | :) |
| 21:18.00 | Jinto | Something on the skill of Hunter's pet |
| 21:18.09 | Gnarfoz | Iriel: yeah, I wasn't even bashing that, it just requires you to pay attention if you're doing something else at the same time ^^ |
| 21:18.42 | kd3 | like trying to talk on IRC... >.> |
| 21:19.01 | Lopeppeppy | Jinto, your question isn't very clear. You're reinstalling WoW, and ... ? |
| 21:19.22 | Jinto | and next i start with an orc hunter |
| 21:20.34 | Jinto | lol i go to watch tv, see you later, guys |
| 21:20.55 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 21:20.58 | [dRaCo] | weird people today |
| 21:21.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:21.28 | Lopeppeppy | He's going to roll an orc hunter while watching TV. Yup. Okay. *nod* |
| 21:21.30 | nevcairiel | I bet he thought this was some random wow chat channel |
| 21:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. *nod* |
| 21:21.52 | [dRaCo] | that's what I'd do if I were to play a hunter |
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| 21:22.22 | Gnarfoz | he's on the right track, anyway |
| 21:22.31 | Gnarfoz | Hunter + TV = good match |
| 21:22.32 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
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| 22:05.55 | Drundia | stupid mobs prefer to aggro players with lower guids..... |
| 22:06.06 | Kraps | don't addons like quest helpers involve "manipulation of the data stream"? |
| 22:06.51 | Kraps | or be considered Malicious UI Modifications? |
| 22:06.59 | [dRaCo] | where'd you get that idea? afaik they just display additional information |
| 22:07.06 | [dRaCo] | taken from lua files |
| 22:08.02 | Kraps | i quote "However, anything done to the UI to gain any sort of an unfair advantage over other players is unacceptable." quest helpers definitely do that |
| 22:08.28 | kd3 | unfair how? |
| 22:08.34 | [dRaCo] | depends on how you define unfair advantage |
| 22:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | Quest databases are available by alt-tabbing, freely to all players, whether they use an addon or not. I see no advantage to having a mod, and therefore no unfair advantage. |
| 22:09.25 | amro | they just reorganize information that's readily available. they're not involved in combat |
| 22:09.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: questhelper and friends use existing databases compiled over time |
| 22:09.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: they are just as much against the rules as wowhead |
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| 22:10.12 | Drundia | all addons give unfair advantage |
| 22:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | Unfair advantage tends to concern itself with combat, PvP, and unauthorized modification of the graphics of the game. |
| 22:10.21 | Drundia | if you want to define it that way |
| 22:10.41 | Kraps | hmm |
| 22:10.59 | jkj | Question All About Open GL When I log in I dont see my Char or monsters or anything only see the ground PM me pls if any help??? |
| 22:11.14 | kd3 | update your graphics drivers |
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| 22:11.20 | jkj | How? |
| 22:11.25 | kd3 | what OS are you using? |
| 22:11.42 | jkj | Idk Whats OS see I need help pls |
| 22:11.48 | amro | are you on windows? |
| 22:11.48 | kd3 | operating system |
| 22:11.54 | ScytheBlade1 | saw that xoming |
| 22:11.58 | ScytheBlade1 | *coming |
| 22:12.03 | jkj | Can u help me |
| 22:12.05 | _rane | :D |
| 22:12.09 | jkj | like walk me throw it |
| 22:12.23 | jkj | kd3 |
| 22:12.28 | Kraps | that happens to me when i load in a crowded area, but i corrects after some seconds |
| 22:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | jkj, you do have to have some bare minimum of input, like being able to answer questions about your OS. |
| 22:12.33 | ScytheBlade1 | We can't walk you through computing 101 |
| 22:12.36 | kd3 | are you using windows? os X? |
| 22:12.51 | jkj | Windows |
| 22:13.12 | amro | why are you in opengl mode? direct3d doesn't work? |
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| 22:13.37 | jkj | Windows XP I have |
| 22:14.25 | jkj | KD3 |
| 22:14.27 | jkj | u there |
| 22:14.30 | jkj | here |
| 22:14.31 | jkj | Operating System:Windows XP* Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) |
| 22:14.37 | Kraps | what do you guys think about Cosmos UI? |
| 22:14.51 | kd3 | I'm here, other people can help you at the same time |
| 22:15.02 | kd3 | why are you using opengl mode? why isn't direct3d working? |
| 22:15.16 | ScytheBlade1 | jkj: your best bet would be to post on the WoW technical support forum during the weekday |
| 22:15.31 | jkj | Ok |
| 22:15.32 | jkj | hmm |
| 22:15.37 | ScytheBlade1 | jkj: blizzard hires people specifically to help people get their computer working, and it sounds like you could use their service |
| 22:15.47 | Kraps | i'm considering d/ling it |
| 22:16.19 | Hirsute | Kraps: I've never used it, myself. |
| 22:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, Cosmos UI is a prefectly servicable UI package. There are many such creatures out there, take your choice of what suits you best. |
| 22:17.20 | Kraps | thats the thing, i wish i could see a list of UI packages to choose from |
| 22:17.49 | *** part/#wowuidev jkj (n=jkj@c-68-60-226-138.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:18.29 | Lopeppeppy | Go to any of the usual download sites and check their compilations section. |
| 22:19.04 | Lopeppeppy | Those are listed in the helpful stickies on the UI and Macros forum. |
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| 22:28.50 | Jinto | anyone is italian here? |
| 22:29.28 | amro | don't think so i'd have choked them by now -) |
| 22:29.34 | Kraps | lol |
| 22:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | He went to watch tv and level his hunter some more. |
| 22:33.05 | zenzelezz | "A teenager was decapitated by a roller coaster after he hopped a pair of fences and entered a restricted area Saturday at Six Flags Over Georgia, authorities said. Six Flags officials are uncertain why the unidentified 17-year-old from Columbia, S.C. scaled two six-foot fences and passed signs that said the restricted area was both off-limits and dangerous to visitors, spokeswoman Hela Sheth said in a news release." |
| 22:33.20 | zenzelezz | apparently a hat is worth more than your own personal safety over there |
| 22:33.30 | Thunder_Child | and watch how six flag gets in trouble for that crap |
| 22:33.39 | Lopeppeppy | Teenagers are stupid no matter where you look, darlin'. |
| 22:34.14 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: the problem is that over there, anyone can sue for anything and win enormous sums of money for bogus claims |
| 22:34.23 | zenzelezz | it's yet another reason why we detest Americans by principle |
| 22:34.31 | Lopeppeppy | yup. Never said our legals weren't completely screwed up. |
| 22:35.00 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, you can find that all over |
| 22:35.01 | zenzelezz | and here I thought you were a Coldridge native :-o |
| 22:35.18 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: find what all over where? |
| 22:35.43 | Corrodias | who can what when where? |
| 22:35.49 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz, well damn...nvm |
| 22:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | No zenzelezz, Peppy is from Kharanos, Gnomeregan to be specific. :P Myself, I hail from the stupidville you describe as "over there" |
| 22:37.37 | wereHamster | uhm... where can I download the D3 trailer? I don't have flash, so blizzard.com/diablo3/ is not usable for me |
| 22:38.59 | Corrodias | wereHamster: i can give you the .torrent files if you want |
| 22:39.02 | Arrowmaster | gameplay or cenimatic? |
| 22:39.09 | Corrodias | then you get full-sized instead of tiny little window |
| 22:39.23 | Arrowmaster | if you want the gameplay get the EU one instead of the US one |
| 22:39.29 | Corrodias | true |
| 22:40.02 | Corrodias | wait, really? |
| 22:40.06 | wereHamster | Corrodias: strange why blizz doesn't offer the raw torrent files, also for the wow patches. |
| 22:40.23 | Corrodias | it says it's 800mb on the EU site, and the file i downloaded was 800mb |
| 22:40.33 | Arrowmaster | wowtorrentex |
| 22:40.47 | Gnarfoz | the eu one is for some reason encoded at 3800kbps, while the US one is encoded at 4300 kbps |
| 22:40.58 | Gnarfoz | resulting in the US one being 800mb, the EU one being 550~ish |
| 22:41.03 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster: .what? |
| 22:41.05 | Corrodias | the page lies! :o |
| 22:41.13 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: google wowtorrentex |
| 22:41.21 | Gnarfoz | besides that: no difference except the "Teen rated" logo on the US one |
| 22:41.30 | Corrodias | wowtorrentex is a utility that pulls the .torrent files out of the downloader executables |
| 22:41.35 | Corrodias | so i should get the EU torrent... |
| 22:41.40 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: the US one has pcm audio, the EU one has mp3 audio |
| 22:41.46 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 22:41.54 | Gnarfoz | how would I have overlooked *that* while looking at the stats |
| 22:41.55 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:42.08 | wereHamster | oh that. First, no win32 runtime here, second, I can't even download the downloader (remember, no flash here as well) |
| 22:42.25 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: perty sure the sourcecode is available too |
| 22:42.30 | Gnarfoz | ahahahah indeed |
| 22:42.41 | Arrowmaster | but yeah you need a link to the downloader first |
| 22:42.46 | wereHamster | and I have my .sh script for pulling the torrents from the downloaders, won't run a full binary for that |
| 22:42.47 | Corrodias | blizzard's site is all messed up. i try to download the downloader from the EU site and it gives me the US one |
| 22:42.56 | Thunder_Child | wereHamster, still need to torrent? |
| 22:42.59 | Thunder_Child | the* |
| 22:43.07 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: I can give you a DDL |
| 22:43.11 | wereHamster | Thunder_Child: yep, can you upload it somewhere? |
| 22:43.18 | Corrodias | then, it keeps sending me to the EU site, but when i select the US site from the dropdown, it sends me right back to the EU site |
| 22:43.33 | Thunder_Child | http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4266243/Diablo_3_Gameplay_HD_Trailer_(Official_site) |
| 22:43.52 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: just get the link then change the EU to US if you want the us one |
| 22:43.59 | Arrowmaster | er GB to US |
| 22:44.18 | wereHamster | heh, I should have checked tpb -.- |
| 22:44.44 | Corrodias | okay, now it's almost working |
| 22:44.51 | Gnarfoz | wereHamster: check PM ^^ |
| 22:45.29 | Kraps | if i d/l compilations that have 1 or more of the same addons in them, will that cause problems? |
| 22:45.51 | [dRaCo] | na, they'll most probably overwrite |
| 22:46.17 | Thunder_Child | might be problems with version mismatches |
| 22:47.03 | Kraps | if there are version mismatches |
| 22:47.26 | Arrowmaster | and if compilation actually made any modifications to the addon its a shitty compilation just asking for trouble |
| 22:47.47 | [dRaCo] | I wouldn't use different compilation, though... chances are they use different addons to do the same stuff |
| 22:48.04 | [dRaCo] | which will lead to trouble |
| 22:48.11 | Kraps | right |
| 22:48.49 | [dRaCo] | get one, try it, if you dont like it, uninstall it and get another one |
| 22:49.56 | Kraps | when is 4.3 coming out? |
| 22:50.11 | [dRaCo] | now, never... when it's done. |
| 22:50.23 | Arrowmaster | soon(tm) |
| 22:50.34 | Kraps | heh |
| 22:50.36 | Gnarfoz | when the expansion after WotLK has been released + X months |
| 22:51.07 | Kraps | someone said before season 5 |
| 22:51.40 | [dRaCo] | last I heard there'll be no s5 before wotlk |
| 22:52.38 | Kraps | so the follow-up: when is WotLK coming out? |
| 22:52.48 | nevcairiel | when its done |
| 22:52.56 | [dRaCo] | ^ |
| 22:53.07 | Arrowmaster | i think he ment 2.4.3 |
| 22:53.35 | Kraps | well, yeah |
| 22:53.52 | [dRaCo] | he very probably did, but there still is no date |
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| 22:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | Nooblet question. My prat frames seem to be locked, and I can't for the life of me dig out an Unlock feature. Pointers or do I just scream and delete it? |
| 23:00.28 | [dRaCo] | scream and delete |
| 23:00.31 | Arrowmaster | prat? you mean the chatframes? |
| 23:00.43 | Arrowmaster | rightclick chattab? |
| 23:01.21 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 23:01.42 | Lopeppeppy | The combat log portion is stun-locked, that's what won't move. The rest I can do the other way, but not that one. |
| 23:01.55 | Thunder_Child | rclick that tab, unlock it |
| 23:02.15 | Lopeppeppy | Tried. Nothing on right click. |
| 23:02.28 | Thunder_Child | you have to get something on a rclick of a tba |
| 23:02.31 | Thunder_Child | tab* |
| 23:02.39 | [dRaCo] | ctrl-alt-something click? |
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| 23:03.11 | Gnarfoz | also, I don't think prat touches the 2.4 combat log frame |
| 23:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | I've tried those too. Nothing. Stun locked. I should be used to that as a rogue. |
| 23:03.26 | Sixen | Heh |
| 23:04.05 | zenzelezz | /afk vacation |
| 23:04.22 | [dRaCo] | blizz' chat lock thingy? |
| 23:04.33 | Lopeppeppy | Dunno. |
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| 23:09.37 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
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| 23:35.36 | Tekkub | Anyone got the UI art extracted? I need one thing and I don't want to extract everything to get it |
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| 23:38.46 | Sixen | It's on the wowp.com website, hang on |
| 23:39.08 | Sixen | http://www.wowprogramming.com/utils/blpviewer |
| 23:39.19 | Sixen | And then this to convert them yourself: http://www.wowprogramming.com/utils/blp2png |
| 23:40.49 | Tekkub | ah, handy |
| 23:40.59 | Sixen | Agreed. |
| 23:44.17 | Shirik|zZz | I'm starting to feel dirty with this program |
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| 23:44.55 | Shirik | between me calling SendAddonMessage() from within string.gsub, and now me also using pcall as a way to "break" out |
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| 23:57.25 | duaiwe | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.26 | duaiwe | you're kidding me |
| 23:58.00 | NightHawkTheSane | what will the other 4 shaman in our raids do?!? *boggle* :P |
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| 23:58.30 | Lopeppeppy | Buff their nails. |
| 23:58.40 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
