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| 00:09.59 | p3lim | kd3: Thanks for the help, got flash player working now :) |
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| 00:31.15 | Shirik | hey Tuller: ping |
| 00:31.29 | Tuller | Shirik: ? |
| 00:31.56 | Shirik | about Bongos, this has been happening for a while and I was wondering if it was just because of the wow api (I've never messed with that code before) |
| 00:32.19 | Shirik | When I hover over the stats bar, it shows all the memory usages of addons, etc., I get really jerky movement all of a sudden (like about 2 bursts per second) |
| 00:32.40 | Shirik | have you noticed that as well? |
| 00:33.34 | Tuller | well, its because its not throttled :P |
| 00:34.38 | Shirik | I guess my real question was is it like the CPU usage where it takes a while to pull that information? |
| 00:34.57 | Shirik | just because of the way the API works |
| 00:35.03 | Tuller | its more of a whole: You're pulling that info 60 times per second |
| 00:35.25 | Tuller | I never notice a drop, but my machine's much faster than it used to be |
| 00:35.38 | Shirik | yeah but it seems more jerky, like, I get 15 frames suddenly, then it stops for a fraction of a second, then I get another 15 frames, etc. |
| 00:36.48 | Tuller | not a clue why it would do that unless UpdateAddOnCPUUsage or UpdateAddOnMemoryUsage is the culprit |
| 00:36.52 | Tuller | (api calls, not mine) |
| 00:37.52 | Shirik | I wouldn't be surprised if it is :) |
| 00:38.05 | batrick | Shirik: what |
| 00:38.18 | Shirik | was just curious if you knew anything about it; like I said it's been happening for a while so I'm not exactly concerned about it, just wanted to know if you knew anything about it :) |
| 00:38.22 | Shirik | batrick: I forget |
| 00:38.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:38.28 | Shirik | Oh I remember~! |
| 00:38.33 | Shirik | you're going to laugh at me though |
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| 00:53.45 | Gnarfoz | mhh |
| 00:53.48 | Gnarfoz | Combuctor is nice |
| 00:53.56 | Gnarfoz | if only it looked like Bagnon ;D |
| 00:54.21 | nevcairiel | i dont get why people hate the blizzard looks |
| 00:54.22 | Corrodias | so what's up with the name Bagnon, anyway? |
| 00:54.24 | Corrodias | bag non? no bag? |
| 00:54.37 | Tuller | bagnon is derived from: |
| 00:54.39 | Tuller | baglor |
| 00:55.03 | Corrodias | for me, i like the way blizzard's frames look, but i simply prefer other things. in addition, they remind me of being a noob, having unmodified UI elements |
| 00:55.26 | Corrodias | oh yes... turn everything there into past tense, though >_> |
| 00:55.31 | Tuller | then, when I decided, I did not want to call it baglor, I went with a friend's character's name: fagnon |
| 00:55.33 | Corrodias | baglor, is that based on the name of some character? |
| 00:55.34 | Tuller | and it became bagnon |
| 00:55.54 | Tuller | baglor is the name of a guy with a bag over his head on a random website which apparently does not exist |
| 00:56.10 | Corrodias | cool. |
| 00:56.34 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I still use the blizzard bags ;) |
| 00:56.37 | Shirik | I like them |
| 00:56.41 | nevcairiel | baglor is the word "bachlor" in some weird language that i dont understand |
| 00:56.41 | Industrial | i dont |
| 00:56.47 | Industrial | unorganized pile of crap |
| 00:56.49 | nevcairiel | Shirik: i cant stand the multiple bags |
| 00:56.54 | nevcairiel | need one big bag |
| 00:57.01 | Shirik | psh |
| 00:57.29 | Nechckn | I like the multiple bags, myself.. I keep things organized per bag |
| 00:57.52 | Nechckn | I know most of the addons let you do that with colors and dividers, but the defaults do that for me already |
| 00:57.52 | nevcairiel | I keep things organized in rows/colums or a combination of both |
| 00:57.53 | Corrodias | i used ... what the hell did i use? it arranged items in a "single bag" interface based on type. TBag, that's it. |
| 00:58.27 | nevcairiel | "Hey, this 20 slot bag .. but i carry 22 parts of resist gear with me .. hrm .. sucks!" |
| 00:59.23 | Industrial | use baggins if any |
| 00:59.26 | Industrial | for organized bags |
| 01:00.00 | nevcairiel | I prefer organizing everything myself, a big bag with a item search box like combuctor wins .) |
| 01:00.07 | nevcairiel | and the quality filters! |
| 01:00.13 | nevcairiel | altho i never use the categorys |
| 01:00.16 | nevcairiel | but *shrug |
| 01:00.32 | nevcairiel | Tuller needs to make the categorys editable |
| 01:00.34 | Industrial | i hate organizing myself. you should see my room. |
| 01:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | I hire out for freelance home organization. I'm rather good at it. |
| 01:01.09 | Industrial | xD |
| 01:01.33 | Gnarfoz | I've been using the default bags for the last 3+ years, myself |
| 01:01.39 | Gnarfoz | I'm just trying out new stuff once again |
| 01:02.01 | Gnarfoz | sorting per physical bag has suited me fine so far |
| 01:02.59 | nevcairiel | i've been using all-in-one addons for ever, tried stuff like baggins, but didnt really like it |
| 01:03.04 | nevcairiel | so combuctor wins for me :) |
| 01:04.21 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the looks though... they don't for me :< so much space wasted just for 'style' (the same with the default bags, hence my looking for an alternative once and again) |
| 01:05.14 | Gnarfoz | Bagnon is perfect in that regard, but having only "put stuff A at the top" and "put stuff B at the bottom" for sorting is not enough for me ;D |
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| 01:10.57 | nevcairiel | you complain about lost space on your bags? |
| 01:11.04 | nevcairiel | do you run around with your bags open all day? |
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| 01:14.51 | Gnarfoz | not all day, but they're like... huge |
| 01:15.06 | Gnarfoz | I could probably do with some mega simple mod to just scale the default bags xD |
| 01:16.54 | Gnarfoz | like, if I need something from my inventory in a combat or raid situation, I literally can't see anything anymore, they cover half my screen ;D |
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| 02:44.44 | Shirik | woot |
| 02:44.47 | Shirik | full raid team of healers |
| 02:44.55 | Shirik | 10 woeful healers: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/995143ca2ea3ff281e79f1ff60a4a5aa.jpg |
| 02:46.01 | Corrodias | wut |
| 02:46.14 | Lopeppeppy | Nice, Shirik. |
| 02:46.28 | Corrodias | oh, only 5 are healers |
| 02:47.24 | Shirik | hm? |
| 02:47.39 | Shirik | no I mean the little proc humans |
| 02:47.41 | Shirik | there's 10 of them :D |
| 02:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | And they are all yours? |
| 02:50.08 | Shirik | yup |
| 02:50.13 | Shirik | check the nameplates :) |
| 02:51.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'm half asleep, reading name plates is for the fully awake! |
| 02:52.24 | Cide | is it *that* statistically unlikely? :P |
| 02:53.05 | Cide | what's the math again, it's too late |
| 02:53.30 | Cide | (n choose k)^(n-k) * p^k? |
| 02:53.37 | Industrial | Shirik: bet it procs way more for like shammies :P (chain heal)? |
| 02:53.55 | Shirik | Industrial: coh hits 5 people :) |
| 02:53.58 | Shirik | that's why I was able to do that |
| 02:54.01 | Cide | ah |
| 02:54.01 | Industrial | ah right |
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| 02:54.09 | Cide | (n choose k)*p^k * (1-p)^(n-k) |
| 02:54.17 | Industrial | Cide: ??? |
| 02:54.23 | Corrodias | a CoH priest can be pretty powerful in certain fights >:o |
| 02:54.33 | Shirik | I think you blew up Industrial's head with nCr, Cide |
| 02:54.38 | Cide | yeah :P |
| 02:55.02 | Cide | so how many casts? |
| 02:55.15 | Shirik | a lot :P |
| 02:55.29 | Cide | come on now |
| 02:55.31 | Cide | better answer! |
| 02:55.41 | Shirik | I wasn't counting! |
| 02:55.45 | Shirik | I was counting the number of healers! |
| 02:56.02 | Cide | yeah |
| 02:56.05 | Cide | but estimate it from your mana bar |
| 02:56.09 | Kaso | they last 1.25min so you can do 50 CoH in that time |
| 02:56.16 | Kaso | work out the maximum you could get at once |
| 02:56.18 | Kaso | ;> |
| 02:56.26 | Cide | 50*5 since it hits 5 targets |
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| 02:56.52 | Cide | >>> 50*5 -- sorry, I'm tired |
| 02:56.52 | Cide | Cide: 250 |
| 02:56.58 | Kaso | haha |
| 02:57.30 | Shirik | problem is we don't know the true probability of it procing |
| 02:57.35 | Cide | 0.03 |
| 02:57.40 | Cide | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=30550 |
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| 02:58.12 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:58.18 | Shirik | and 250 attempts |
| 02:58.21 | Cide | 250C10 is 250!/(10!*240!) |
| 02:58.24 | Cide | that's what |
| 02:58.34 | Kaso | the tooltip says 1min but wowhead comments say 1.25, i say stick with 1.25 cos is a nice round number |
| 02:58.37 | Shirik | uh |
| 02:58.41 | Shirik | wtf calculation is that |
| 02:58.44 | hi11ie | what is the function that returns a # of seconds in like for ex. 6 hours, 4 minutes, 3 seconds ? i seem to remember seeing this but i cant find it in wowwiki |
| 02:58.46 | Kaso | bang! |
| 02:58.50 | Cide | n!/(k!(n-k)!) |
| 02:58.59 | Shirik | oh ncr |
| 02:59.05 | Shirik | I was going to do it a different way |
| 02:59.08 | Industrial | divide by zerO SHI- |
| 02:59.09 | Cide | >>> 250*249*248*247*246*245*244*243*242*241/(10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2) |
| 02:59.09 | Cide | Cide: 2.1900531608703e+017 |
| 02:59.12 | Cide | ouch |
| 02:59.37 | Shirik | you shouldn't do 250C10 |
| 02:59.43 | Cide | why not? |
| 02:59.51 | Industrial | binominal coefficient??? *head explodes* |
| 02:59.55 | Shirik | why 10? |
| 03:00.00 | Shirik | oh you're trying to find the probability of getting 10 |
| 03:00.03 | Cide | yes |
| 03:00.11 | Shirik | I thought we were doing the max |
| 03:00.20 | Cide | nah, 50 is just max attempts |
| 03:00.33 | Cide | or 250 since it heals 5 people |
| 03:00.35 | Shirik | >>> 0.03^250 |
| 03:00.36 | Cide | Shirik: 0 |
| 03:00.39 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:00.40 | Cide | fail |
| 03:00.42 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:00.47 | Cide | you fail though |
| 03:00.48 | Kaso | that assumes he was chaining CoH |
| 03:00.51 | Cide | it's p^k |
| 03:00.56 | Cide | so 0.03^10 |
| 03:01.25 | Cide | >>> b=250*249*248*247*246*245*244*243*242*241/(10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2); return b*0.03^10*0.97^240 |
| 03:01.25 | Cide | Cide: 0.086473577794694 |
| 03:01.29 | Cide | not bad! |
| 03:01.32 | Shirik | no Cide |
| 03:01.36 | Shirik | I meant probability of maximum |
| 03:01.36 | Cide | what? |
| 03:01.38 | Cide | oh |
| 03:01.51 | Shirik | 0.03^10 is probability of getting 10 in a row |
| 03:01.57 | Cide | that'd be 250 healers |
| 03:01.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, Terestian's Stranglestaff is mine! |
| 03:02.09 | Shirik | yes 250 healers :D |
| 03:02.31 | Corrodias | congrats, scythe |
| 03:02.37 | Kaso | whats the max you could likely have out at once chaining coh then? |
| 03:02.39 | Cide | >>> Decimal("0.03")**250 |
| 03:02.39 | Cide | Decimal("1.906837481167966155897665114E-381") |
| 03:02.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: I'm a mage :D |
| 03:02.49 | Cide | and that, Shirik, is why python is pro |
| 03:02.50 | Thunder_Child | "...As you can guess, the experience was similar to having feces injected directly into your eardrums." no, i really couldnt guess |
| 03:02.59 | Shirik | lol, 1.9*10^-381 |
| 03:03.00 | Shirik | damn. |
| 03:03.23 | Cide | what'd you use to calculate it? |
| 03:03.29 | Corrodias | we gave a stranglestaff to a hunter |
| 03:03.40 | Corrodias | they kept dropping. couldn't do anything with the voids. |
| 03:03.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 03:04.01 | Industrial | tentacleraeptiemz |
| 03:04.02 | Cide | Shirik: if you get 250 healers |
| 03:04.04 | Cide | Shirik: let me know |
| 03:04.09 | Shirik | kk |
| 03:04.17 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a Sun Eater, King's Defender, and Quickening Blade of the Prince |
| 03:04.30 | ScytheBlade1 | With Mongoose, Icy, and Executioner enchanted |
| 03:04.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Not sure what to put on the staff |
| 03:04.47 | Cide | Shirik: technically, I guess we'd have to calculate it for k>10 as well |
| 03:04.56 | Kaso | hi11ie you prob want os.time ([table]) see: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.8 |
| 03:04.56 | Cide | Shirik: since you technically achieve 10 to get 11 |
| 03:05.02 | Cide | or anything >10 |
| 03:05.04 | Corrodias | on the staff? +healing. |
| 03:05.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Tempting |
| 03:05.36 | Gnarfoz | major spirit. |
| 03:05.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Debating the +35 agi |
| 03:05.39 | Corrodias | it's always dripping blood or glowing green |
| 03:05.50 | Gnarfoz | the old +30 spelldmg |
| 03:05.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:05.55 | Corrodias | i would like to see some swirling yellow |
| 03:05.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Old +30 dmg would be win |
| 03:05.59 | Corrodias | on one |
| 03:06.02 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's pricey |
| 03:10.35 | Gnarfoz | I'm going mad hacking up this addon :\ |
| 03:12.23 | Thunder_Child | just...wow... http://www.cracked.com/article_16248_9-most-obnoxious-memes-ever-escape-web.html |
| 03:13.38 | Corrodias | i do love cracked.com. |
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| 03:42.08 | Shirik | hm |
| 03:42.13 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 03:42.16 | Thunder_Child | go away |
| 03:42.28 | Shirik | P(CoH pickup) = P(0.03) + P(0.03) - P(0.03^2) |
| 03:42.38 | Shirik | >>> 0.03 + 0.03 - 0.03^2 |
| 03:42.39 | Cide | Shirik: 0.086473577794694 |
| 03:42.39 | Cide | Shirik: 0.0591 |
| 03:42.43 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 03:42.46 | Shirik | one number |
| 03:42.53 | Shirik | Cide wtf did you do |
| 03:42.58 | Thunder_Child | see, if you had listened to me, this would not have happened |
| 03:43.02 | Shirik | >>> 0.03 + 0.03 - 0.03^2 |
| 03:43.02 | Cide | Shirik: 0.0591 |
| 03:43.05 | Cide | what? |
| 03:43.11 | Cide | oh |
| 03:43.13 | Shirik | (23:42:22) (@Shirik) >>> 0.03 + 0.03 - 0.03^2 |
| 03:43.13 | Shirik | (23:42:23) (+Cide) Shirik: 0.086473577794694 |
| 03:43.13 | Shirik | (23:42:24) (+Cide) Shirik: 0.0591 |
| 03:43.16 | Cide | try now |
| 03:43.22 | Shirik | >>> 0.03 + 0.03 - 0.03^2 |
| 03:43.22 | Cide | Shirik: 0.0591 |
| 03:43.27 | Cide | I apparently loaded two script instances |
| 03:43.35 | Shirik | so each CoH has a 5.91% chance |
| 03:43.41 | Shirik | wait |
| 03:43.43 | Shirik | what am I smoking |
| 03:43.47 | Shirik | not even close |
| 03:43.49 | Cide | wtf is that kind of calculation |
| 03:44.10 | Cide | don't you want um |
| 03:44.18 | Shirik | P(A | B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A n B) |
| 03:44.19 | Cide | 1 - (1-0.03)^5 ? |
| 03:44.35 | Shirik | that'll work |
| 03:44.38 | Shirik | I always do things the hard way, lol |
| 03:44.46 | Cide | hey, it's 5:45am |
| 03:44.53 | Cide | you should be ashamed of yourself for making me think :/ |
| 03:45.46 | Shirik | 6% was the chance of 2 hits |
| 03:45.47 | Shirik | not 5 |
| 03:46.13 | Gnarfoz | it's late here, help me... in Lua, is false boolean false, or just nil? |
| 03:46.24 | Cide | hmm? |
| 03:46.27 | Cide | >>> not true |
| 03:46.27 | Cide | Cide: false |
| 03:46.32 | Gnarfoz | >>> false |
| 03:46.33 | Cide | Gnarfoz: false |
| 03:46.36 | Cide | I don't know if that answers your question.. |
| 03:46.41 | Gnarfoz | I guess it does |
| 03:46.53 | Cide | both nil and false evaluate to false in a boolean context |
| 03:46.58 | Cide | everything else to true |
| 03:47.11 | Gnarfoz | yes, that's what I was asking, I guess^^ |
| 03:49.05 | Cide | ok |
| 03:49.07 | Cide | I'm off to bed |
| 03:49.11 | Cide | have fun with your healers Shirik |
| 03:49.21 | Thunder_Child | thats why he is off to bed as well |
| 03:49.22 | Shirik | I just go this awesome SS of them |
| 03:49.49 | Cide | Thunder_Child: I think I'll just log off right now |
| 03:49.51 | Cide | night |
| 03:50.26 | Thunder_Child | lolz, (nsfw..i suppose) http://www.cracked.com/article_15830_15-most-sexually-unappealing-porn-titles.html |
| 03:51.03 | Corrodias | if i wanted to link to every "X most X things" article on cracked that i liked, i'd be linking most of the site. |
| 03:51.09 | Thunder_Child | then do it |
| 03:51.15 | Corrodias | http://www.cracked.com |
| 03:51.32 | Thunder_Child | ty, but that fails |
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| 03:58.15 | Drundia | Corrodias when this place is silent you might as well indeed link every single article from cracked |
| 04:00.15 | Corrodias | heh |
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| 04:05.47 | Gnarfoz | method notation is nuking my brain =[ |
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| 04:20.15 | Guillotine | Gnarfoz: in Lua? |
| 04:21.28 | Guillotine | Its not that hard. foo:bar(baz) is the same as foo.bar(foo,baz) |
| 04:21.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, to be precise, meddling with a FuBar plugin (or rather its tablet? dewdrop? what the hell do I know :D mouseover thingy) and it seems it can't accept method notation functions as for its functions... |
| 04:21.51 | Guillotine | basically, it just passes whatever is before the : as the first argument |
| 04:22.41 | Gnarfoz | figure it out by now btw, I just forgot to change the function definition to non method notation so it wouldn't eat up my arg |
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| 06:16.25 | Tekkub | "If it wasn't for Chocofuzzy, we'd all be long dead." |
| 06:19.28 | Thrae | News Flash: World of Warcraft not poised for new update concerning Age of Conan! PR: "We were initially worried about the success of Age of Conan, but considering how their servers kept crashing on release, and their DX10 version isn't even out, and the graphics are terrible on anything but a $1500 machine, we don't need to spend any extra time on our content to 'save our players'." |
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| 06:21.15 | Thunder_Child | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3jLBiB6dzI |
| 06:21.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: if that's real, I'm curious as to a link |
| 06:21.54 | Thunder_Child | Thrae, i just saw that on another channel...but about warhammer online.... |
| 06:21.58 | ScytheBlade1 | haha. |
| 06:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | The DX10 part made me wonder. |
| 06:22.13 | Thunder_Child | oh..same person |
| 06:22.19 | Thunder_Child | damit Thrae |
| 06:22.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 06:23.54 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: Yeah, funny how we're on the same semi-unrelated, low population channel on two different servers. |
| 06:24.40 | Thunder_Child | Thrae, indeed, good to know i'm not the only one around here waiting for it |
| 06:29.46 | Gnarfoz | can't get spell names from spells a character doesn't have in his spellbook, right? |
| 06:33.40 | Tekkub | yatta! I fixed mah toilet! |
| 06:34.45 | Corrodias | YATTA YATTA |
| 06:34.55 | Thunder_Child | ...the late night adventures of Tekkub |
| 06:35.09 | Tekkub | pfft |
| 06:35.14 | Tekkub | whiner |
| 06:35.43 | Corrodias | http://youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWU |
| 06:35.58 | Tekkub | the people downstairs were probably all like "why the hell does he keep flushing that thing?" |
| 06:36.44 | Gnarfoz | who cares about them, they live downstairs |
| 06:37.30 | Gnarfoz | and why on earth can't I find a druid to help me test something... when I'm in arenas or bgs they're there ALL THE TIME chain cycloning my ass |
| 06:37.45 | Tekkub | yea the kid in the room below me likes to play his music loud enough I can hear it at 1AM |
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| 06:48.40 | AnduinLothar | any xsl pro's on? |
| 06:48.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, XSL, not XSD |
| 06:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I've dabbled with XML transformations a fair bit |
| 06:49.13 | AnduinLothar | yes xsl |
| 06:49.48 | AnduinLothar | my stylesheet index variable seems to be skipping numbers for no apparent reason |
| 06:49.57 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Vault/addonList.html?display=current |
| 06:50.06 | AnduinLothar | like #6 |
| 06:50.27 | Corrodias | that is a page that says "AddOns by Karl Isenberg (AnduinLothar/KarlKFI)" and has nothing else on it |
| 06:50.37 | Corrodias | unless it uses javascript |
| 06:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Corrodias: turn on JS |
| 06:50.42 | AnduinLothar | it does |
| 06:50.54 | AnduinLothar | stylesheet: http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Vault/addonList.xsl |
| 06:51.04 | ScytheBlade1 | And XML source? |
| 06:51.13 | AnduinLothar | http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Vault/addonList.xml |
| 06:51.39 | Thrae | Karl Isenburg? Didn't he invent Neo-Communism? |
| 06:52.19 | AnduinLothar | not that i know of |
| 06:52.46 | AnduinLothar | anyway, the (show all) work just fine cause it uses position() |
| 06:53.12 | AnduinLothar | but the current view uses: <xsl:number count="addonList/addon[not(@deprecated) or @deprecated = 'false']"/> |
| 06:53.21 | AnduinLothar | which seems to be skipping random numbers |
| 06:53.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Initially I thought you would have an encoding error or something, invalidating the <addon> |
| 06:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | But that sure isn't the case of #6... |
| 06:54.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Or any of them, at a quick glance |
| 06:54.33 | AnduinLothar | down further it's even weirder |
| 06:54.46 | AnduinLothar | 35 38 36 37 |
| 06:55.00 | AnduinLothar | wtf |
| 06:56.08 | AnduinLothar | oh, TrackerToggle's out of order in the xml |
| 06:56.24 | AnduinLothar | so it's using it's position for the # but moving it due tot he sort |
| 06:56.31 | AnduinLothar | that's weird |
| 06:57.17 | AnduinLothar | ah, that's the case for #6 too, cause ChatEdit isn't in alphabetical order |
| 06:57.40 | AnduinLothar | well i guess the easy fix is to rearrange the xml |
| 06:57.46 | AnduinLothar | but what's the robust fix |
| 06:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Offhand I couldn't tell you.. it looks pretty simple |
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| 07:00.46 | AnduinLothar | mmm google says i'd have to turn the sorted result into a tree fragment and then use xsl:number on that |
| 07:00.50 | AnduinLothar | that's ugly |
| 07:00.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That IS ugly, but that makes sense |
| 07:02.44 | AnduinLothar | not even sure how i would do that |
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| 07:25.28 | Gnarfoz | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-family-planning.jpg |
| 07:26.04 | Fisker | you die |
| 07:26.05 | Thunder_Child | beats what? |
| 07:26.11 | Thunder_Child | uhh...nvm |
| 07:26.15 | Thunder_Child | dont want to know |
| 07:26.25 | Fisker | i'm beating you |
| 07:26.43 | Thunder_Child | in your dreams |
| 07:26.52 | Fisker | no |
| 07:26.57 | Fisker | in your dreams |
| 07:27.13 | Thunder_Child | maybe, but i can never remember them |
| 07:27.27 | Fisker | i'll make sure that won't happen this time then |
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| 07:32.23 | Cairenn | okay, this is an odd problem: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16661 |
| 07:33.10 | Thunder_Child | the default answer is "remove WTF and addons folder" |
| 07:33.16 | Thunder_Child | then it's reinstall |
| 07:33.25 | Thunder_Child | then it's check for updated drivers |
| 07:35.10 | Thunder_Child | hmm..maybe it's drivers then reinstall |
| 07:35.33 | Thrae | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=93113&posted=1#post93113 |
| 07:36.14 | Thunder_Child | i dont trust that repair file |
| 07:36.21 | Cairenn | thanks guys, although I really was just commenting that it's an odd problem |
| 07:36.24 | Cairenn | :) |
| 07:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | It sounds like an addon to me |
| 07:36.40 | Thunder_Child | thats not how we think around here Cairenn |
| 07:36.52 | Cairenn | he said he's having the problem even without addons, ScytheBlade1 |
| 07:37.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It's 1:37 AM, I'm not even tired, but I still can't read |
| 07:37.24 | Thrae | Cairenn: Hmmm, wouldn't say it's odd...the problem itself is odd, but the general situation is not uncommon |
| 07:37.42 | Thunder_Child | i once used the repair file to fix the same problem 5 times in a row w/o runing the game in between repairs |
| 07:37.53 | Thrae | Then again, I see World of Warcraft tested on various hardware and drivers at work almost everyday |
| 07:38.20 | ScytheBlade1 | .. he should nuke his Cache |
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| 07:41.38 | Thunder_Child | i wonder how long it takes to to the voices for the simpsons...since now it seems the actors get $400,000 a show |
| 07:41.46 | Thunder_Child | s/to to/to do/ |
| 07:55.24 | Thunder_Child | woohoo, new futurama movie |
| 07:56.16 | Thrae | Crap, that's what I'm missing -- new seasons of Futurama |
| 07:56.23 | Thrae | What are the new seasons? |
| 07:56.30 | Thunder_Child | i said movie |
| 07:56.47 | Thrae | No, I'm making an observation of myself, related to you mentioning Futurama |
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| 07:57.00 | Thunder_Child | ok, you lost me |
| 07:57.52 | Thrae | Hmmm, Futurama is in its 6th season? |
| 07:58.10 | Thunder_Child | accordinf to imdb no |
| 07:58.15 | Thunder_Child | they have not done one yet |
| 07:58.52 | Thrae | But there are "movies" after season 5, right? |
| 07:59.03 | Thrae | I'm trying to figure out where I left off. |
| 07:59.11 | Thunder_Child | ya, 2 |
| 07:59.33 | Thunder_Child | though i did read somewhere that they can split them up into chunks to air on tv |
| 07:59.40 | Thunder_Child | if they so wished |
| 07:59.57 | Thunder_Child | read: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0149460/faq#.2.1.1 |
| 08:00.15 | Thunder_Child | and the one below it |
| 08:01.30 | Thrae | Ahhh, gotcha. |
| 08:01.37 | Thrae | So there are two movies out now. |
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| 08:01.50 | Sixen | Hai |
| 08:01.59 | Thunder_Child | ya, the 2nd just released in torrent form |
| 08:02.00 | Cairenn | hey Sixen, how goes? |
| 08:02.06 | Thunder_Child | dunno when it airs |
| 08:02.09 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: Names? |
| 08:02.15 | Sixen | Pretty good, how about yourself Cairenn? |
| 08:02.25 | Thunder_Child | |
| 08:02.25 | Thunder_Child | Futurama: Bender's Big Score |
| 08:02.29 | Cairenn | you know, ssdd :) |
| 08:02.34 | Thunder_Child | Futurama: The Beast with a Billion Backs |
| 08:02.37 | Sixen | =P. |
| 08:02.43 | Thunder_Child | in that order |
| 08:02.56 | Sixen | Without sounds like an idiot, what's ssdd stand for? ^_^ |
| 08:03.01 | Sixen | sounding* -- lmao. |
| 08:03.08 | Cairenn | same [stuff] different day |
| 08:03.26 | Sixen | ;) |
| 08:04.25 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: Yeah, got 'em |
| 08:06.53 | Sixen | So, anyone use FireFox3? |
| 08:06.59 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 08:07.09 | Sixen | Are there any Themes out for it? :/. |
| 08:07.11 | Thrae | Sixen: Yep, 64-bit version |
| 08:07.20 | Thunder_Child | ya |
| 08:07.27 | Sixen | Where? :(. |
| 08:07.31 | Thunder_Child | the one i use is "NASA Night Launch" |
| 08:07.43 | Thunder_Child | through their site |
| 08:07.53 | Sixen | Oh, really? |
| 08:07.54 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: By the way, would the Lua engine in WAR play a major role in your ordering the CE as well? |
| 08:07.59 | Sixen | I couldn't find any, =o. |
| 08:08.02 | Thunder_Child | it's the same for 2 you just need to see if they work or not through trial and error |
| 08:08.08 | Sixen | ah |
| 08:08.31 | Thunder_Child | Thrae, would or did? i already ordered the CE |
| 08:08.40 | Thrae | Did (4am) |
| 08:08.51 | Thunder_Child | Thrae, no, i dont code in lua |
| 08:08.56 | Thunder_Child | or anything for that matter |
| 08:09.05 | Thunder_Child | i didnt even know what the addon language was |
| 08:09.33 | Thrae | Ah. I suppose I'm nerdy in that I want to test its Lua engine, as well as its graphics engine (the latter having to do with my job too) |
| 08:10.25 | Thunder_Child | well the latter i agree with since i have a decent computer but i was always to lazy to do lua and there was already a large wow community for that |
| 08:11.06 | Thunder_Child | i'll make Guillitine make my addons for war |
| 08:11.15 | Thunder_Child | Guillotine* |
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| 08:13.26 | Sixen | What's War |
| 08:13.38 | Thunder_Child | warhammer online |
| 08:13.47 | Sixen | Ah |
| 08:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I need a computer with decent audio output for my room.. might help me get to sleep |
| 08:14.32 | ScytheBlade1 | My latop puts all sorts of noise across the audio out jack =[ |
| 08:15.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't suppose anyone knows of some good mini-ATX motherboards? ;) |
| 08:17.07 | Sixen | :/ |
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| 08:37.15 | Hapnintwo | hello |
| 08:41.06 | Cairenn | hi |
| 08:43.21 | Fisker | how formal of you Cairenn |
| 08:43.30 | Cairenn | hrm? |
| 08:43.43 | Fisker | <-obvious trolling |
| 08:43.57 | Cairenn | okay |
| 08:48.55 | durcyn | ScytheBlade1: i found a nice msi 945GM ITX board on newegg recently |
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| 09:16.20 | Gnarfoz | if I define a local inside a function (local blah) it will be cleared out even when not doing it like (local blah = nil), right? |
| 09:16.39 | Gnarfoz | (I know, scoping is easy enough, but I'm way overdue for bed :P~) |
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| 09:36.53 | haste | Gnarfoz: you don't need to nil out your locals |
| 09:37.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know, I was just being more already-asleep then than now |
| 09:37.27 | Gnarfoz | :O |
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| 09:55.46 | Fisker | btw Cairenn |
| 09:55.50 | Cairenn | hmm? |
| 09:56.02 | Fisker | country doesn't matter in that raffle right? |
| 09:56.09 | Cairenn | newp |
| 09:56.27 | Fisker | i'll take that as a "nope" |
| 09:56.27 | Fisker | :P |
| 09:58.11 | nevcairiel | not like you would learn from a book that brilliant |
| 09:58.16 | nevcairiel | your mind is too weak! |
| 10:02.47 | Fisker | :o |
| 10:03.08 | Fisker | then perhaps i can get some private lessons from cladhaire or cog|away |
| 10:03.13 | Fisker | if you know what i mean nevcairiel |
| 10:06.25 | Fisker | i see you don't :o |
| 10:07.17 | Fisker | new futurama movie yay |
| 10:11.04 | nevcairiel | o rly? |
| 10:11.37 | Fisker | ya rly |
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| 12:28.29 | Adys_ | Anyone around able to link me an ingame screenshot of the tooltip of item #34485 (Lightbringer Girdle) ? |
| 12:31.56 | _rane | http://xs128.xs.to/xs128/08230/wowscrnshot_060808_152952491.jpg |
| 12:32.13 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 12:33.59 | Adys_ | thanks alot _rane |
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| 13:37.06 | bleeter | Dolby: oO wget --content-disposition ftw! woots! think I've finally worked out wth I should've been doing all along lol |
| 13:37.48 | bleeter | Dolby: now if I could work out what page you'd like me to hit to increase your pagecounts for... income rights, I'll be thrilled beyond belief ;) |
| 13:39.05 | foxlit | wget -r: DoS simplified |
| 13:54.45 | bleeter | god I hate stuff Blizz does that ends up as a ponder of the meaning of life. EG - can fly from IF to ZA, IF to IQD - ie, flight from old to new world - yet STILL can't fly from bleedin' Exodar to Auberdine aaargh |
| 13:56.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:56.49 | foxlit | port-a-gryphon was probably new :) |
| 13:56.49 | nevcairiel | the big space ship on exodar scares gryphons and hypogryphs |
| 13:57.05 | foxlit | imagine that, Silithus -> Exodar through Theramore |
| 13:57.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:57.25 | foxlit | /pizza |
| 13:57.25 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 13:57.38 | nevcairiel | like the original IF -> IQD |
| 13:57.40 | bleeter | Darn Silithus used to be fairly mad |
| 13:57.40 | nevcairiel | 15 minutes |
| 13:57.42 | nevcairiel | before the port |
| 13:57.47 | bleeter | *Darn->Silithus |
| 13:57.55 | bleeter | it's still quite mad, but not as mad as pre-BC |
| 13:58.20 | Adys_ | I remember those bleeter |
| 13:58.39 | Adys_ | Getting in the aq raid at the last minute |
| 13:58.45 | bleeter | Adys_: fond memories? I used to be able to cook a lamb roast inflight.. bummer can't do that anymore :( |
| 13:58.56 | Adys_ | "Ill be here soon, just kill a couple of bosses while Im flying" |
| 13:59.48 | Adys_ | then once you're there, you find out you forgot your aq mount. ^^ |
| 14:00.16 | Adys_ | That was the time when warlocks were underplayed too |
| 14:00.29 | Adys_ | often couldnt even get a summon when it was really needed |
| 14:00.29 | nevcairiel | thats why i never un-packed my shiny red AQ mount! |
| 14:01.33 | nevcairiel | I should visit AQ some day, just to run around on my mount :) |
| 14:01.37 | bleeter | Adys_: and ye olde meeting stones arrrrgh |
| 14:03.25 | bleeter | nevcairiel: don't quote me, but one of AQ is seriously bugged I think. Seen a few reports about it recently, but am tired and can't recall details |
| 14:03.38 | bleeter | can't recal if 40 or 20 |
| 14:03.40 | nevcairiel | not that i really plan on going there |
| 14:04.02 | bleeter | you never know, some bored sunday... ;) |
| 14:04.12 | Industrial | whats the flying upsidedown CVAR again? |
| 14:04.17 | Industrial | blah pitch blah >_> |
| 14:04.43 | foxlit | pitchLimit, If I had to guess |
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| 14:36.31 | bleeter | hey, is copper stored as a 32bit signed or unsigned? I can't recall |
| 14:37.21 | foxlit | mu! |
| 14:37.32 | foxlit | People who know wouldn't tell you, and people who can guess, well, guess. |
| 14:38.07 | nevcairiel | signed |
| 14:38.11 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 14:38.30 | nevcairiel | lua> 2^31 |
| 14:38.31 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 2147483648 |
| 14:38.37 | nevcairiel | gold limit was at 214k i think |
| 14:38.53 | foxlit | That could be a soft, rather than a hard limit :) |
| 14:39.18 | nevcairiel | it happens to be at the 2^31 limit which suggests signed to me |
| 14:39.21 | nevcairiel | but who knows |
| 14:39.37 | bleeter | signed, thx |
| 14:39.37 | Adys_ | bleeter: signed |
| 14:39.49 | Adys_ | 99% of the data is stored signed iirc |
| 14:39.53 | Adys_ | s/the/their/ |
| 14:42.39 | Adys_ | So does anyone know why some rating increase equip effects are "Improves x by y" and some are "Increases your x by y" ? |
| 14:43.37 | nevcairiel | because 20 devs work on the system? |
| 14:43.50 | Adys_ | this doesn't make sense |
| 14:43.57 | Adys_ | in the dbc its stored as "<name> rating" |
| 14:44.03 | Adys_ | not "increases your <name> rating" |
| 14:44.12 | bleeter | doesn't have to make sense :P |
| 14:44.30 | Adys_ | Im more wondering in which cases its increases your and in which cases its Improves |
| 14:44.54 | Adys_ | expertise is increases, only one i could find :( |
| 14:45.35 | foxlit | They got rid of "Riding", the spellbook ability :( |
| 14:47.38 | foxlit | That's annoying. |
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| 15:57.40 | Kaso | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord |
| 15:58.07 | Kaso | im surprised how poland and brazil are no 2 and 3 |
| 15:58.25 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 15:58.45 | Kaso | also 204 from north korea, thats more than i wouldve guessed |
| 15:58.53 | foxlit | any idea why textmate's fold-at-level functionality does nothing? |
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| 16:02.04 | foxlit | mismatched "for" "end" in comments |
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| 16:19.31 | foxlit | Is there a multi-line edit box template somewhere? |
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| 16:39.41 | nevcairiel | foxlit: multi-line editboxes are the devil (tm) |
| 16:39.56 | foxlit | Yeah, begining to notice that |
| 16:40.05 | haste | scrollframes are worse imo |
| 16:40.07 | haste | at least they were |
| 16:40.09 | foxlit | Have to nest them in scroll frames to contain them |
| 16:40.15 | haste | haven't tried them post-2.3 |
| 16:40.32 | foxlit | dunno, scroll frames seemed pretty tame |
| 16:40.43 | haste | I had them act really badly before :( |
| 16:40.53 | haste | not obeying height/width and setpoints |
| 16:41.10 | foxlit | Works for Me(tm) |
| 16:41.14 | haste | oh wait, that was in combination with a mutliline editbox |
| 16:41.27 | haste | *shudders* |
| 16:42.10 | nevcairiel | does that trick with pinging the minimap to cast a target-area-aoe still work? |
| 16:42.16 | foxlit | no |
| 16:42.29 | foxlit | [at least there was whining about it being broken] |
| 16:42.35 | haste | it was fixed |
| 16:42.38 | foxlit | [and a response saying "intentional"] |
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| 17:39.31 | foxlit | hrm |
| 17:39.49 | Lopeppeppy | hmm |
| 17:40.05 | foxlit | editbox in a scrollframe |
| 17:40.21 | foxlit | scrollframe has a border, editbox can have insets set |
| 17:40.42 | foxlit | However, there's not quite enough space to not clip the last line at some half-character mark |
| 17:41.04 | foxlit | Can I adjust the clipping region of a scrollframe/scrollchild? |
| 17:42.31 | foxlit | http://www.spirit-dreams.net/box/clip.png |
| 17:43.22 | foxlit | more specifically, I want that last line to stop intersecting with scrollframe's backdrop border |
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| 17:52.54 | foxlit | sigh, blizzard cheats |
| 17:53.03 | foxlit | they have another frame provide the backdrop :/ |
| 17:54.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 17:54.39 | Lopeppeppy | Ogres are like onions! Layers! |
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| 19:07.36 | zenzelezz | both yesterday and today I spent seven hours on a sailboat. Conclusion: I still hate the sun |
| 19:08.58 | Lopeppeppy | Determination: zenzelezz is crazy |
| 19:09.24 | zenzelezz | no wai |
| 19:11.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. Maybe all that sun did addle your brain, dear. |
| 19:11.55 | zenzelezz | I could come over there and we could find out in private |
| 19:12.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.... start traveling, I'll see you in July? |
| 19:12.42 | zenzelezz | can't then, going to Australia for three weeks from 2nd July |
| 19:13.07 | Lopeppeppy | Then we both lose out on a wonderful movie date. |
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| 19:44.56 | kd3 | whee... kernel hardlocks are fun |
| 19:46.00 | Lopeppeppy | Popcorn is funner. |
| 19:46.22 | Shirik | kd3: More fun to call KeBugCheck() |
| 19:47.23 | Diskmaster | kd3: At least you have a working makeconfig. :O |
| 19:47.33 | Fisker- | ~failrik |
| 19:47.33 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 19:47.37 | Fisker- | yay |
| 19:47.39 | Fisker- | it's back |
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| 20:32.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha, I hit a bug on live that I found on the PTR |
| 20:33.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ... and accidently erased my gmotd :( |
| 20:33.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yoops |
| 20:33.15 | Cide | fail |
| 20:33.22 | Lopeppeppy | GMOTD isn't that hard to reset, is it? |
| 20:33.33 | ScytheBlade1 | The problem is that I reset it without expecting to |
| 20:33.39 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.45 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Should set it to "text goes here" |
| 20:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | regular ol' /gmotd now nukes it :( |
| 20:34.06 | Cide | that has to be a bug |
| 20:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | Did you accidentally type in a space after /gmotd? |
| 20:34.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: it is, I reported it and asked Zoot, he said he could probably fix it and that I was the only one to ever report it :P |
| 20:34.50 | Cide | people must not know the correct channels, then |
| 20:34.53 | Cide | that's a huge bug :/ |
| 20:35.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Most people don't use /gmotd, or even know of it |
| 20:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | They click the text in the guild panel |
| 20:35.24 | Cide | yeah, but most people don't know how to play either :P |
| 20:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 20:35.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Point |
| 20:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But this wouldn't have been a problem if the gmotd wasn't my GM ranting at the guild sucking as a whole :P |
| 20:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | "No raid friday; take time to get your head out of your asses and act like a !@#$ing raiding guild." |
| 20:36.00 | Cide | so come up with your own |
| 20:36.03 | Cide | or |
| 20:36.12 | Cide | borrow one from our old doomhammerite sebudai |
| 20:36.22 | ScytheBlade1 | old doomhamemrite indeed =[ |
| 20:36.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That made me sad |
| 20:36.43 | Cide | did he leave? |
| 20:36.46 | Cide | or did juggernaut leave? |
| 20:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 20:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Entire guild |
| 20:36.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Rerolling on a PvP server |
| 20:36.58 | Cide | I didn't even know |
| 20:37.03 | ScytheBlade1 | News as of yesterday |
| 20:37.20 | ScytheBlade1 | They can't get the apps because it's a PvE server and all of the real high end talent is on PvP |
| 20:37.35 | ScytheBlade1 | "We have no other choice on a PvE server other than to slowly die" or something like that |
| 20:38.13 | Cide | sounds like a lot of crying |
| 20:38.15 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7040445240&sid=1 |
| 20:38.16 | Cide | anyway |
| 20:38.24 | Matrix110 | there should be RP and non RP Servers only anyway :P |
| 20:38.33 | Tekkub | agreed, that's just bullshit |
| 20:38.37 | Matrix110 | There is no diffrence at all between PvE and PvP tbh :P |
| 20:38.47 | Cide | /gmotd If you need to practice jumping then you can go find a cliff and jump off of [sic] it or something. |
| 20:38.49 | Cide | imo |
| 20:38.49 | Matrix110 | I mean EVERY GODDAMN PVP HAPPENS IN BGs/ARENA |
| 20:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:38.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Agreed |
| 20:39.01 | Tekkub | sure there is, an PvP you can kill someone lower than you for no reason |
| 20:39.10 | Matrix110 | Then you relog |
| 20:39.13 | Matrix110 | gank back |
| 20:39.14 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 20:39.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: we spent four hours, killing Naj'entus and getting four tries in on Supremus, when we have Bloodboil down |
| 20:39.24 | Tekkub | I think the whole PvP/PvE design is stupid |
| 20:39.29 | Cide | /shrug |
| 20:39.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence the angry gmotd ;) |
| 20:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | (That I erased on accident) |
| 20:39.45 | Tekkub | if someone wants to be flagged when they're out in the world, make it a day cooldown or something |
| 20:40.07 | Tekkub | that way I could play with friends that like PvP servers, but they couldn't "Bluewall" easily |
| 20:40.08 | Cide | I'm sure there are generally better players on pvp servers |
| 20:40.39 | Cide | and because of the whole "can't transfer to pvp from pve" stuff, people don't want to transfer to pvp->pve |
| 20:40.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, that is the problem |
| 20:41.25 | Tekkub | yea, at 70 I really probably wouldn't care about being on PvP |
| 20:41.30 | Matrix110 | PvP servers atleast encourage a bit more party playing |
| 20:41.38 | Tekkub | cause I never go out in the "real world"... hey just like IRL |
| 20:41.46 | Matrix110 | I mean WoW is supposed to be a MMORPG yet you can do 95% of the content alone :P |
| 20:41.57 | Tekkub | hang out in town and instances... |
| 20:42.28 | Matrix110 | In other MMORPGs leveling to high level isnt even properly possible without a Party |
| 20:42.43 | Matrix110 | But well gotta please the hardcore casuals |
| 20:43.03 | Matrix110 | (who are online more than Iam) |
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| 21:52.05 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.32 | foxlit | damn you, multi-line edit boxes. |
| 21:53.37 | foxlit | Damn you. |
| 21:53.45 | Guillotine | multi line edit boxes suck |
| 21:53.59 | foxlit | Yet I need one :( |
| 21:54.14 | Guillotine | just use a template and its not too bad |
| 21:54.24 | foxlit | which template? |
| 22:05.07 | Guillotine | foxlit: look at the code for the new guild bank info tab |
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| 22:07.18 | foxlit | Is that somewhere in FrameXML? |
| 22:07.32 | foxlit | I'd be guessing on GuildBankFrame.xml, but I don't have that - could just be out of date |
| 22:08.00 | batrick | anyone see any new info on the eight core processors intel is putting out soon? |
| 22:09.59 | foxlit | Guillotine: there isn't anything especially new about that |
| 22:10.10 | Guillotine | didn't say theres anything new |
| 22:10.19 | Guillotine | just take a look at what they do and copy it :P |
| 22:10.31 | foxlit | the same scrollframe/editbox set up as macro UI uses; no good templates |
| 22:10.54 | Guillotine | oh well |
| 22:11.23 | foxlit | more or less what I use as well, but it ends up comically wrong in my case |
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| 22:40.48 | Hapnintwo | good night :) |
| 22:41.27 | hi11ie | is there any way to access (ie: read) how long a person has been idle? |
| 22:42.59 | foxlit | sigh, what sort of treachery is this |
| 22:43.25 | foxlit | you move the middle scroll button down, and it disables the "up" arrow |
| 22:48.31 | Guillotine | hi11ie: kind of |
| 22:48.40 | Guillotine | hi11ie: Only if they have the addon installed as well |
| 22:49.02 | Guillotine | you just secure hook a bunch of functions and restart the timer whenever one is called |
| 22:52.32 | hi11ie | it's too much trouble. |
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| 22:53.51 | hi11ie | Guillotin, it IS 10 minutes right? the autoafk? some sites say 5, some say 10.. i tested and it seemed like 9 (altho my test could be flawed for various reasons) |
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| 22:55.00 | hi11ie | wb |
| 22:55.05 | Guillotine | mm, I *think* its 10 mins |
| 22:55.10 | Guillotine | but less in BGs |
| 22:56.31 | hi11ie | i just don't want my addon to be inaccurate when it puts in a msg log they were marked AFK for being idle for some inaccurate # |
| 22:56.54 | foxlit | "they"? |
| 22:57.02 | hi11ie | the user |
| 22:59.17 | foxlit | there might not be a good way to do that, at all |
| 23:00.02 | hi11ie | foxlit: do what? |
| 23:00.30 | foxlit | predict when the client will toggle AFK automatically, and measure time since last "action" |
| 23:00.59 | hi11ie | foxlit: yea. that's why i just commented out any code that refers to it. |
| 23:01.02 | foxlit | Recall some AFK state bounding as addons sent chat messages a while ago; the duration to re-toggle the AFK tag varies in that case |
| 23:01.52 | hi11ie | will addons sending a msg auto-clear afk? (if the option is set in Interface options) |
| 23:02.22 | foxlit | Two years ago, sure. |
| 23:02.28 | foxlit | Now, I haven't checked for ages |
| 23:02.45 | hi11ie | i was going to try to make it so you could change when you auto-afk (i knew it had to be BEFORE blizzard did it :) but, seems like it's way too troublesome to do |
| 23:03.09 | hi11ie | and prolly not enough ppl would care anyway |
| 23:06.10 | Kaso | http://www.riehle.org/humorous-takes/fun-photos/ch-according-to-cnn.jpg |
| 23:06.31 | Kaso | how can cnn get switzerland in the wrong place |
| 23:07.20 | foxlit | cnn != map vendor |
| 23:07.21 | Thunder_Child | easy |
| 23:07.45 | Thunder_Child | all it takes is one person to screw up |
| 23:09.56 | foxlit | Hm, so setting a width on the inner EditBox prevents it from disappearing |
| 23:10.12 | foxlit | Now I just have to figure out why this scroll bar is upside down :( |
| 23:11.37 | hi11ie | foxlit: do you know if you can set a bgcolor (as a texture) for a fontstring to simulate reverse video text (or if there's any way to change the bgcolor of text in the chat frame) |
| 23:12.21 | foxlit | reverse video text? |
| 23:12.46 | hi11ie | like this |
| 23:12.57 | foxlit | That's still black-on-white to me |
| 23:13.11 | foxlit | You generally can't change the background color of a specific piece of text in the chat frame |
| 23:13.13 | hi11ie | ok. basically like changing the bg color of text |
| 23:13.35 | foxlit | outside of it, you could make a texture attached to a font string, but there's no good way to do that for a scrolling message frame |
| 23:14.35 | hi11ie | but you can do it for a static frame |
| 23:15.21 | foxlit | you'd basically create a texture and position it so that it matches your text |
| 23:16.24 | hi11ie | foxlit: can you make changes to the font of msgs sent to the chat frame? |
| 23:16.58 | hi11ie | I have an afk msg recorder, and when you play them back.. i'm trying to make them look different than other chatframe text so it's not as confusing |
| 23:18.20 | foxlit | I don't think so |
| 23:26.19 | hi11ie | ah well. no biggie |
| 23:26.28 | hi11ie | foxlit: what are you working on? |
| 23:26.46 | foxlit | An edit box |
| 23:31.23 | foxlit | Turns out it's not inverted |
| 23:31.40 | DARKGuy | how so? WoWLua has an edit box |
| 23:31.48 | DARKGuy | with syntax highligting and such :P |
| 23:32.25 | foxlit | The space reserved for the scroll bar was so small that that it's "let's keep the thumb within some margin of buttons" code was actually actually causing the thumb to move in opposite direction of the scroll |
| 23:35.34 | DARKGuy | weird |
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| 23:45.18 | foxlit | ScrollingEdit_OnUpdate is changed |
| 23:45.24 | foxlit | s/changed/weird/ |
| 23:45.50 | foxlit | assuming it runs based on data from OnCursorChanged, why use OnUpdate? |
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