| 00:04.06 | Hapnintwo | sleeping is boring :) |
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| 00:44.29 | Kaso | im convinced there is some exploit in this version of xchat, these random crashes cant be that random >.< |
| 00:46.21 | Shirik | /ctcp Kaso DCC SEND GOODBYETOYOULOLOLOL |
| 00:46.24 | Shirik | .... oops |
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| 00:46.37 | Kaso | heh |
| 00:46.40 | foxlit | 7ctcp, amateaur |
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| 00:46.53 | Kaso | I love how the first thin i got after i said that was "* Received a CTCP VERSION from kd3" |
| 00:47.30 | foxlit | gah |
| 00:47.49 | foxlit | Withdrawn; Shift-7 is / on danish keyboards :/ |
| 00:48.29 | foxlit | I guess the only "typo" version of/ for enus would be 8, missing the numpad / |
| 00:48.55 | Shirik | or ? |
| 00:48.56 | Shirik | maybe |
| 00:49.10 | Shirik | ^ has been done by me on /nickserv identify |
| 00:49.14 | foxlit | Hitting shift for a key that doesn't require it would be odd |
| 00:49.24 | Shirik | well it's next to it |
| 00:49.28 | nalioth | cog|away: Dagron: please fix the vulnerability in your system |
| 00:49.30 | Shirik | so if you hit in between / and shift |
| 00:49.31 | Shirik | you hit both |
| 00:49.46 | nalioth | Shirik: better to have done that in a PM :| |
| 00:49.49 | foxlit | Hard with current keyboard |
| 00:50.05 | Shirik | yeah I didn't think it would have hit him actually, nalioth, I thought the /ctcp at the front of that wouldn't have tripped it, sorry >.> |
| 00:50.06 | foxlit | But yeah, maybe. |
| 00:55.10 | Shirik | so I'm doing some vision processing stuff, and I'm getting 24-bit RGB color values in, but all I really care about is black and white (though I don't know how black or how white it will be). So I want to convert it to a grayscale |
| 00:55.22 | Shirik | (R+G+B)/3 or does anyone have a better algorithm? |
| 00:55.32 | Shirik | red doesn't seem like it should have as much influence as green, to me |
| 00:55.45 | foxlit | -> HSV? |
| 00:55.49 | Shirik | I thought about that |
| 00:55.52 | foxlit | And dump saturation/hue |
| 00:55.58 | Shirik | but that gives me two numbers |
| 00:56.06 | Shirik | wouldn't I need both saturation and value? |
| 00:56.10 | Shirik | I guess not |
| 00:56.13 | foxlit | No |
| 00:56.24 | Kaso | when satuatation is 0 hue is meaningless is it not |
| 00:56.35 | foxlit | Yes |
| 01:00.18 | Shirik | yeah foxlit I think that's a good idea I'll probably do that |
| 01:00.21 | Shirik | my problem was I was looking at HSL |
| 01:01.19 | foxlit | There's something to be said for that as well |
| 01:01.41 | foxlit | Since it'd translate pure R, G, B colors into grays rather than whites. |
| 01:02.23 | Shirik | I forget why but I wasn't impressed with the numbers I was getting |
| 01:02.40 | Shirik | it's too late to be thinking about this, lol |
| 01:02.56 | Lopeppeppy | Go to bed, Shirik. *hug* |
| 01:02.56 | Shirik | fortunately this isn't too complicated, it's basically going to be either dark black or bright white |
| 01:02.57 | foxlit | Mm, yes. |
| 01:02.59 | foxlit | Naptime! |
| 01:07.16 | Kaso | firefox 3 address/search bar really is talented at finding exactly what i dont want |
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| 01:10.35 | Zyuu | kaso, it usually list the most recent url you visited too |
| 01:10.42 | Zyuu | which is nice sometimes |
| 01:11.07 | foxlit | http://www.inquisitorx.com/safari/ personally |
| 01:11.17 | Zyuu | lacks too many features |
| 01:11.26 | Zyuu | firefox 3 is amazing to me, but it's good there's alternatives :) |
| 01:11.38 | foxlit | mm, features? |
| 01:12.12 | Zyuu | Yes, security-wise, speed-wise and support for the addons FF has |
| 01:12.17 | Zyuu | tried FF3? |
| 01:12.21 | Kaso | the thing is i memorise urls, so "fo" means one site to me, "rat" is another etc, whereas ff3 mucsk that all up |
| 01:12.21 | Zyuu | it's very fast |
| 01:12.37 | foxlit | I really don't have an issue with safari's speed. |
| 01:13.27 | Zyuu | do you use Google Mail? |
| 01:13.39 | foxlit | Through IMAP |
| 01:14.03 | Zyuu | loading google's mail interface is 50% faster in ff3 |
| 01:14.43 | Zyuu | should really just read http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0rc2/releasenotes/#whatsnew |
| 01:15.15 | foxlit | Does it feature such features as "loading google's mail interface is 50% faster in ff3"? |
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| 01:16.18 | foxlit | Glancing through that list, there's nothing interesting in it. |
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| 01:17.24 | NightHawkTheSane | fx3 IS very nice. but aside from proper extension support, I dont find it leaps and bounds better than safari. |
| 01:18.33 | foxlit | Ah " web applications like Google Mail and Zoho Office run twice as fast in Firefox 3" |
| 01:18.54 | foxlit | I suppose that roughly translates to "<Zyuu> loading google's mail interface is 50% faster in ff3" |
| 01:19.54 | Zyuu | well their increased security read from the google db of malware sites |
| 01:19.59 | Zyuu | so they are working with google for sure :) |
| 01:20.02 | Zyuu | so that part does not surprise me |
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| 01:20.16 | DARKGuy | I already use FF3 |
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| 01:20.17 | DARKGuy | Ha. |
| 01:20.20 | Kaso | someone get webkit working in firefox like IETab then i'll consider safari interface is ugly |
| 01:20.35 | Corrodias | i couldn't change names because of the +R flag :o how the hell did i get in the channel with an unregistered name, then? |
| 01:20.39 | foxlit | Depends on the platform, Kaso |
| 01:20.50 | foxlit | I have the opposite problem with FF on OSX: it doesn't fit in. |
| 01:20.54 | Kaso | Corrodias, +R is not +r |
| 01:20.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: you can join, just not speak |
| 01:20.58 | Shirik | Corrodias: We're not +r |
| 01:21.00 | Kaso | +R lets you join but not speak |
| 01:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: and yeah, that is very annoying. :P |
| 01:21.07 | Kaso | overkill >.< |
| 01:21.20 | Shirik | l2linknicks :P |
| 01:21.22 | Corrodias | well, that's shitty |
| 01:21.29 | Corrodias | i had to leave so i could rejoin and talk |
| 01:21.32 | Kaso | foxlit doesnt the new osx ff3 skin improve that alot? |
| 01:21.53 | Kaso | Corrodias, blame the spambots >.< |
| 01:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | it does, but it still sticks out |
| 01:22.30 | Corrodias | i just am annoyed that the network's ircd won't let you change names while in a +R channel |
| 01:22.33 | NightHawkTheSane | fitting into osx is more than just a skin, though, there's behavioral quirks that stick out |
| 01:22.44 | Shirik | Corrodias: would you rather it let you spam the channel with nick changes? |
| 01:23.02 | Corrodias | why not? it lets you spam it with joins/parts :/ |
| 01:23.06 | foxlit | Kaso: http://people.mozilla.com/~faaborg/files/20071009-visualRefresh/osxTheme.png_large.png |
| 01:23.15 | foxlit | It's like Safari, except it's worse. |
| 01:23.23 | Shirik | true, but I can "say" something with /nick :) |
| 01:23.25 | Corrodias | unless there's additional join spam protection i don't know about |
| 01:23.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: you could with joins parts too, /leave, /nick, /join. :P |
| 01:23.47 | foxlit | /part #channel Spam message ? |
| 01:23.55 | Shirik | you can put a message in a part? |
| 01:24.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i think |
| 01:24.04 | Shirik | huh. |
| 01:24.08 | NightHawkTheSane | try it? :P |
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| 01:24.15 | Shirik | now how would I see it |
| 01:24.18 | Shirik | lol |
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| 01:24.26 | NightHawkTheSane | we'd tell you, obviously. ;) |
| 01:24.31 | Shirik | you'd lie! |
| 01:24.38 | foxlit | * You have left channel #WoWUIDev ("Clearly not") |
| 01:24.48 | Shirik | no I haven't |
| 01:24.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ... well, YES, but that's ENTIRELY besides the point :D |
| 01:24.52 | Shirik | see, foxlit's lying to me anyway! |
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| 01:25.11 | Corrodias | it's better to have +R on than off, i just wish the ircd had a slightly different rule there |
| 01:25.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: an alternative is to register your backup names? |
| 01:26.03 | Corrodias | hmm, yes |
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| 01:46.46 | Zurik | question: if i make a frame how do i make that frame appear in front of other frames? |
| 01:47.04 | Zurik | I'm trying to make a popup frame with a close button.. when a button is clicked. |
| 01:47.36 | Zurik | so is there something like self.framename:BringToFront(true) |
| 01:47.44 | Zurik | or something to that effect? |
| 01:48.23 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/UITYPE_FrameStrata |
| 01:48.36 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetFrameStrata |
| 01:48.43 | Zurik | thanks! I will check that out! |
| 01:50.45 | Zurik | excellect Kaso! exactly what i was looking for! |
| 01:50.50 | Zurik | and works perfectly :D |
| 01:51.22 | Kaso | who've guessed it :p |
| 01:51.28 | Zurik | heh |
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| 02:11.39 | bleeter | kd3: did you get my message about Wine and F9? GCC's broken, nasty nasty bug in their stuff |
| 02:12.03 | bleeter | kd3: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35204 "The key issue is, SCC-VN should use a non-recursive SCC finding algorithm, but one that still pops the SCCs in topological order. I tried once to write SCC-VN's DFS in a non-recursive way, but I never succeeded. I also tried to find a substitute for Tarjan's algorithm that possesses the properties required for SCC-VN, but also failed there." |
| 02:12.13 | kd3 | ick |
| 02:12.21 | bleeter | kd3: fix is in, ugly as all hell, but it works |
| 02:12.36 | bleeter | fixed 20th last month, so will be a while before it turns up in distros etc. |
| 02:12.39 | kd3 | like any compiler fixes aren't ugly as hell? |
| 02:12.51 | bleeter | hehe |
| 02:13.21 | bleeter | so yeah, workaround is specific compiler options for that one file, or ulimit -s unlimited during building |
| 02:13.39 | bleeter | apart from that, I've had 0 problems with WoW under F9 |
| 02:17.12 | kd3 | nice. will probably get off my ass and upgrade tomorrow |
| 02:17.37 | bleeter | kd3: my newest favouritist app of all time, specifically to work out what hell time Blizz are on... http://tzclock.org, take a peek at the screens |
| 02:19.33 | kd3 | useful indeed |
| 02:20.23 | bleeter | kd3: also, the config.wtf I'm running with was unchanged from F8 |
| 02:20.43 | bleeter | whether that has any bearing on my success compared to what you may face, no idea |
| 02:21.42 | kd3 | meh, as long as the nvidia drivers work I'll be fine. since livna's finally got an rpm now I should be in good shape |
| 02:22.06 | bleeter | yup, they wfm no probs |
| 02:22.18 | bleeter | still suspecting it'll be total fail on my ATI lappy |
| 02:24.14 | Zurik | 2 questions.. |
| 02:24.23 | Zurik | 1 can you dispose of a frame after it's created? |
| 02:24.37 | kd3 | no |
| 02:24.39 | Zurik | 2. is it bad practice to create frames and dispose of them on a regular basis? |
| 02:24.53 | Zurik | ok.. you answered my question in one foul swoop! heh |
| 02:25.06 | Zurik | lol but thanks kd3 :) |
| 02:25.14 | kd3 | np |
| 02:25.18 | Cairenn | fell* |
| 02:25.29 | Cairenn | one fell* swoop |
| 02:29.19 | bleeter | huh? I thought it was fowl |
| 02:29.28 | Cairenn | fell |
| 02:29.34 | Cairenn | lethal, effective |
| 02:29.37 | Cairenn | fell |
| 02:30.32 | bleeter | so it is, too |
| 02:30.46 | bleeter | the shakespeare usage clouded my memory |
| 02:31.03 | bleeter | 'What, all my pretty chickens and their dam, At one fell swoop' |
| 02:31.19 | bleeter | (Macbeth) |
| 02:31.51 | bleeter | ah, base from same word as felon |
| 02:32.06 | kd3 | huh, storms are moving in a weird direction tonight... northwest |
| 02:33.12 | Lopeppeppy | Please don't send them to me, kd3! |
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| 02:36.41 | Sixen_ | *wave kd3* |
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| 02:37.40 | widgertick | ~seen Legorol |
| 02:37.53 | purl | legorol <i=Legorol@dhcp-83-219-109-25.customers.tvtnet.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 10d 22h 45m 38s ago, saying: 'yes doubleclicking is detectable'. |
| 02:37.53 | kd3 | heya sixen |
| 02:38.54 | Shirik | hi widgertick |
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| 02:39.53 | bleeter | kd3: oO compiz's working outta the box for me, too.. that's a first! :) |
| 02:41.02 | kd3 | nice |
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| 02:41.55 | hi11ie | anyone know how I can solve the problem with CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL firing so much? I want code to run only once when it gets fired but it fires like 6 times each time a msg comes |
| 02:42.39 | Sixen_ | Welcome to the party, Kd3. ;). |
| 02:43.01 | kd3 | thanks... would've gotten in last night if the damn forums were working |
| 02:43.22 | Sixen_ | Seriously, the forums were annoying, :(. |
| 02:44.23 | Shirik | hi11ie, it only fires once when a message comes in |
| 02:46.38 | hi11ie | Shirik: umm.. ok? i have the same function running in multiple chat types.. it only runs 6+ times for CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
| 02:46.53 | Shirik | then you probably registered it 6+ times |
| 02:47.08 | Shirik | the event only fires once per message |
| 02:48.00 | hi11ie | Shirik: and if I say I only registered it once? :) |
| 02:48.06 | Cide | then you're wrong |
| 02:48.16 | Cide | Shirik is always right (except when he argues with me) |
| 02:48.25 | hi11ie | ok, let me rephrase that |
| 02:48.27 | Shirik | Then you should probably show your code |
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| 02:49.58 | hi11ie | ok |
| 02:51.07 | hi11ie | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/89069 |
| 02:51.30 | hi11ie | this is in my OnLoad, which just has a bunch of registers/etc. (dooesn't have any loops) |
| 02:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 02:51.49 | hi11ie | do you wanna also see the code in that actual function that gets claled? |
| 02:51.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You have six tabs. |
| 02:52.17 | Shirik | wtf is that function? |
| 02:52.32 | ScytheBlade1 | My response was the nice version of Shirik's :) |
| 02:52.39 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:52.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Use :RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL") instead. |
| 02:53.08 | Shirik | ^ |
| 02:53.29 | hi11ie | it needs to be a filter tho. modify the msg, etc. |
| 02:53.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Well in case you are indeed doing what you should be (I'm not wizard when it comes to the chat code) |
| 02:54.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Do you have six chat frames/six tabs? |
| 02:54.26 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: well i have 5. :) |
| 02:54.42 | ScytheBlade1 | And it fires six times, not five? |
| 02:54.45 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: yeah i see what yoj mean |
| 02:54.52 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: well i am guessing it fires 5 not 6 |
| 02:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | That fits then |
| 02:55.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Long story short, CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL and friends are only being fired once. How you're processing the code is fired over every chat frame. |
| 02:56.03 | hi11ie | even if only one frame is set up to receive channel msgs? |
| 02:56.07 | Arrowmaster | blame it on blizzard registering the event to each chat frame rather than using a single frame to register to and have it print to each chat frame |
| 02:56.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Again, I'm no wizard when it comes to the chat code - I've toyed with it very lightly, and little more |
| 02:56.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to guess yes, though |
| 02:56.52 | Shirik | hi11ie, if you're trying to respond to the event |
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| 02:57.00 | Shirik | it has nothing to do with the chat frames then |
| 02:58.01 | hi11ie | Shirik: i know that the events can be caught both ways. I used the MessageEventFilter because I need to modify the msg |
| 02:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It is entirely possible that the individual chat frames recieve all of the events, and filter it from there - instead of the events being filtered at an earlier level |
| 02:58.35 | Kyahx | grr, why does Mac WoW not use the command key? |
| 02:58.45 | Kyahx | or F16/17/18/19 |
| 02:58.46 | ScytheBlade1 | (But you'd really have to read the UI source to figure that out :)) |
| 02:58.58 | hi11ie | the only thing i blame on blizzard is not properly documenting the API. |
| 02:59.27 | Arrowmaster | ChatFrame.lua function ChatFrame_OnLoad() ... this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL"); |
| 02:59.48 | Arrowmaster | whats wrong with the documentation? |
| 03:00.10 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: is that a joke? :) |
| 03:00.14 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:00.37 | hi11ie | go look at msdn, java api docs, virtually every other api docs. |
| 03:01.15 | hi11ie | besides that.. i am under the impression that the API docs on WowWiki are community-updated and not provided by blizzard, because they didn't provide any? |
| 03:01.25 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 03:01.26 | ScytheBlade1 | s/didn't provide/don't have/ |
| 03:01.39 | hi11ie | s/don't have/didn't create |
| 03:01.40 | hi11ie | :) |
| 03:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not a matter of them giving us info, it's a matter of them writing it in the first place. |
| 03:01.44 | Arrowmaster | blizzard doesnt support ui moding so there is no documentation |
| 03:01.47 | hi11ie | hehe |
| 03:01.57 | Arrowmaster | they never will |
| 03:02.05 | Arrowmaster | legal reasons |
| 03:03.15 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: why would they have legal reasons not to document an API they created for the specific purpose of "legal" third party addon development? |
| 03:03.35 | Arrowmaster | because its unsupported |
| 03:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. That was simple. |
| 03:03.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I was curious too, but that fits. |
| 03:04.38 | Arrowmaster | and as for your original question about the function getting called more than once, thats the entire design of ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter(), it has to be called more than once so that if other stuff wants to make use of the filtering it can |
| 03:05.11 | hi11ie | well my original assumption was wrong. now that i know what's really going on it makes perfect sense |
| 03:06.09 | Arrowmaster | the only thing i dont like about ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter() is that theres no error catching in the default ui |
| 03:06.51 | hi11ie | i seem to remember learning to code for ircII using the official documentation, even tho it's unsupported, btw :) but i'm not really trying to argue. it is what it is. |
| 03:07.12 | ScytheBlade1 | "unsupported" is a great word |
| 03:07.14 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: what do you mean? |
| 03:07.48 | hi11ie | around my bend it's used to explain why we can't use open source software : |
| 03:08.07 | Arrowmaster | ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter("CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL", function() error("oh look an error, where did all the messages go?") end) |
| 03:08.29 | hi11ie | nothing happens? |
| 03:08.47 | Shirik | quite literally, "nothing" |
| 03:08.49 | Shirik | which is very bad :P |
| 03:09.39 | Arrowmaster | as the rest of the filters wont get processed and neither will the code after the filters that does the printing |
| 03:11.55 | Dashkal | heh, funny, that kind of situation is _exactly_ why I catch Exception in java and tell people to bugger off when they call it bad style... And why I intend to xpcall() whenver invoking code that shouldn't be allowed to break what I'm doing |
| 03:12.14 | Shirik | you catch Exception and do what? |
| 03:12.26 | Shirik | p.s., you should probably catch Throwable, not Exception, if you intend to do that ;) |
| 03:12.33 | Dashkal | Erm, throwable, yes :p |
| 03:12.51 | Shirik | do you still terminate the program? |
| 03:12.51 | hi11ie | well ScytheBlade1.. seems it might not be related to chat frames after all.. the amount of times the function runs seems random each time.. first it was 8, then 4, then 4, then 2 |
| 03:12.55 | Dashkal | Then I log the hell out of it so I can figure out which plugin/extension/etc just tried to break my code :p |
| 03:12.58 | Shirik | ah |
| 03:13.10 | Iriel | Only catch if if you know what you're doing with it afterwards, it's not usually good to catch an out of memory exception. |
| 03:13.14 | ScytheBlade1 | hi11ie: that sounds fun! |
| 03:13.16 | hi11ie | and i doubt it's dividign it in half |
| 03:13.16 | hi11ie | ) |
| 03:13.23 | hi11ie | ;) |
| 03:13.26 | Shirik | If I do something like that, I usually only do it to log and terminate |
| 03:13.29 | Dashkal | Erm, yeah! That's why I catch Exception and not throwable |
| 03:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | hi11ie: I really really am not good with the chat code. |
| 03:13.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I /hates/ it. |
| 03:13.44 | Arrowmaster | hi11ie: is this only for the CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL? |
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| 03:13.49 | Dashkal | Errors I'll usually allow to terminate, stray runtime exceptions not so much |
| 03:13.54 | ScytheBlade1 | (More than the crafting API, which should say things) |
| 03:14.16 | hi11ie | well i have more important stuff to work on, so this can wait. |
| 03:14.18 | Dashkal | But even then, sometimes no. I'll check for an OOM and respond, but most errors I log at a high level and move on |
| 03:14.23 | Dashkal | It depends on context |
| 03:14.27 | Arrowmaster | emote, say, and yell should only get called by the chatframes that are actually displaying them |
| 03:14.28 | Shirik | I disagree that a "stray runtime exception" should get that far |
| 03:14.28 | Shirik | tbh |
| 03:14.39 | Dashkal | Point is, I hate allowing code not under my control to break my system |
| 03:14.58 | Shirik | I totally agree |
| 03:15.02 | Shirik | but catch it closer to the source :P |
| 03:15.03 | Dashkal | Shirik: agreed, it shouldn't. But failure is not necessarally the correct response. |
| 03:15.05 | hi11ie | those work fine.. it's just the chat_msg_channel |
| 03:15.17 | Shirik | if you aren't in control of that code, catch it where you give up control |
| 03:15.22 | Dashkal | This is the kind of thing I'd wrap around a command dispatch loop, where commands are contributed througha plugin mechanism |
| 03:15.58 | Dashkal | And the last time I actually wrote such a thing, the response was to immediately disable the offending command (it was a mud command dispatcher) |
| 03:15.59 | Arrowmaster | that being said, catching errors in everything even under your control is soo bad |
| 03:16.33 | Arrowmaster | didnt kenco wrap all of ktm in pcall's? |
| 03:16.35 | Dashkal | OOM would result in a shutdown, pretty much anything else got logged and I moved on. Anything that really did signify the thing was going to die would just trigger again in a moment anyway |
| 03:18.01 | Dashkal | But more on topic, I'm thinking it be nice if a filter or some such wasn't allowed to break sending messages to the chat frame thanks to a stray (lua-style) exception |
| 03:18.09 | Shirik | there really isn't an issue with catching that if you're doing it right |
| 03:18.24 | Shirik | worst case scenario, you catch an OOM exception, you try to log it, you throw another OOM exception, you terminate |
| 03:18.26 | Dashkal | *nods* I do it right on the barrier between my code and contributed code |
| 03:20.34 | Dashkal | I got to have a lovely chat with my boss on one ocation where his code was throing an Error(!) when a function of his got some illegal value... |
| 03:22.01 | Shirik | I enjoy throwing numbers |
| 03:22.10 | Dashkal | Python? |
| 03:22.14 | Shirik | C++ |
| 03:22.28 | Dashkal | ahh, I never learned exception in C++ |
| 03:22.40 | Shirik | mostly because it's a convenient way to expose the faulting GetLastError() safely |
| 03:23.42 | Shirik | problem is cleaning up from an error condition usually clears the last error code |
| 03:23.51 | Shirik | which is a bit of a problem if you need to know what that error was :) |
| 03:24.09 | Shirik | so until I'm actually "exposing" the error I'll throw the GetLastError() |
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| 03:24.21 | Shirik | when I expose it, I'll throw a wrapped exception in something like a std::exception |
| 03:24.30 | Dashkal | ok, there's some good logic to that one :p |
| 03:27.27 | Shirik | A lot of my code is actually __declspec(nothrow) because it's faster |
| 03:27.37 | Shirik | well, it can be |
| 03:30.44 | Shirik | Dashkal: going back to what you said earlier, C++'s exception handling is both amazing and horrible, at the same time :) |
| 03:31.20 | Cide | so this "Out Of Mana Exception"... chug some mana pots next time? |
| 03:31.27 | Dashkal | heh, nice |
| 03:31.36 | Dashkal | I need to actually learn it sometime |
| 03:31.39 | hi11ie | hm.. seems to be it happens 7 times all the time. wonder if there's hidden chat frames it goes to |
| 03:32.06 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: I commented out all of the channel filters in my addon, and put this in: ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter("CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL", function(msg) return AlexLib:Print("oh no") end); |
| 03:32.18 | hi11ie | "oh no" prints 7 times for every msg |
| 03:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | You'd really have to look into the function documentation (read: source) for ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter() to find more out |
| 03:33.42 | ScytheBlade1 | (Or hope someone else in here with an incredible knowledge of it can help you out) |
| 03:34.33 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: i just commented out the code that changes the message if the type if CHANNEL. and explained the prob and put my email address=) |
| 03:35.19 | hi11ie | ScytheBlade1: i'm lookin at the function in ChatFrame.lua now |
| 03:35.37 | ScytheBlade1 | That's really probably the best thing you can do. |
| 03:35.50 | Arrowmaster | i dont see the problem |
| 03:35.54 | dylanm | hi11ie: Everything gets run on every chat frame. That's how they do it :p |
| 03:35.57 | Shirik | ~lart Cide |
| 03:35.57 | purl | gives Cide a good seeing to |
| 03:36.08 | Arrowmaster | you want it to run multiple times and change the message multiple times |
| 03:36.11 | Cide | Shirik: such a slow response time ;) |
| 03:36.57 | Cide | that said, good night! |
| 03:37.01 | batrick | night |
| 03:37.12 | Arrowmaster | hi11ie: whats the problem that you dont want it running multiple times? |
| 03:37.14 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 03:37.21 | Shirik | io batbot |
| 03:37.24 | Shirik | and batrick |
| 03:37.29 | batrick | hi2u |
| 03:37.43 | batrick | I made this sick mutex code for nmap |
| 03:37.44 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: oh. my bad. yeah.. the problem I want to hilight the sender's name.. which isn't in the msg, which means a custom printout of CHAT_CHANNEL_GET.. which is why i have to print a new msg and return true |
| 03:37.46 | batrick | u should see it |
| 03:37.47 | batrick | brb |
| 03:38.11 | hi11ie | s/problem I/problem is I |
| 03:38.30 | Arrowmaster | hi11ie: dont use ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter() for that |
| 03:38.36 | Arrowmaster | very very bad idea |
| 03:39.39 | dylanm | The filters are for modifying the content of the message. You'll have to do the ol' :AddMessage hook probably. |
| 03:39.46 | batrick | Shirik: http://wowi.pastey.net/89073 |
| 03:39.51 | dylanm | The body, whatever you want to call it. |
| 03:40.55 | hi11ie | yeah. i thought about putting it in the addmessage hook, but it only is supposed to happen in the channel when someone writes your name or whatever else you set up |
| 03:41.22 | dylanm | Then you just pass it on. |
| 03:41.23 | hi11ie | i figured the filter would be simpler/easier |
| 03:41.44 | Arrowmaster | you want to highlight the senders name? |
| 03:41.53 | Arrowmaster | filter system is very very bad idea for that |
| 03:41.53 | hi11ie | dylanm: what do you mean, call AddMessage from the filter? |
| 03:42.04 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:42.05 | Shirik | batrick: what's that for? |
| 03:42.06 | Arrowmaster | dont do that |
| 03:42.18 | dylanm | Hook AddMessage. Forget filters. |
| 03:42.33 | Arrowmaster | you have no way to know that your filter will be the last one to get run |
| 03:42.54 | hi11ie | ok |
| 03:43.47 | batrick | Shirik: http://seclists.org/nmap-dev/2008/q2/0620.html |
| 03:44.03 | batrick | i dunno if that will answer your question |
| 03:44.23 | hi11ie | I have AddMessage hooked already. I could search for the autoreply work in the msg in AddMessage but i don't want it to highlight the word in every single possible call of AddMessage |
| 03:44.35 | hi11ie | s/work/word |
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| 03:45.10 | Arrowmaster | hook :AddMessage() (have to do this for all chatframes), check the global 'event' then search the global 'arg1' for the content your searching for, then use string.grep to modify the the |Hplayer:..|h escape sequence |
| 03:45.32 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: k. good point. well, until now i haven't used the filter for that, only to beep and add the msg sender to LastTellTarget |
| 03:47.11 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: yes. do I need to register the CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL event or will the current filter do the trick? |
| 03:47.36 | hi11ie | doh. it slipped my mind that arg1,arg2, etc. are global |
| 03:47.46 | Arrowmaster | dont use filters for anything you dont intend to get run more than once per event |
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| 03:48.17 | Arrowmaster | but you should be able to do that other stuff in the AddMessage hook too |
| 03:49.09 | Arrowmaster | its not a very pretty way of doing it (using the event and arg# globals) but it simple |
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| 03:51.04 | dylanm | The only alternative I can readily imagine is replacing a lot of ChatFrame.lua's stuff. It's not worth it. |
| 03:55.04 | hi11ie | yea |
| 03:55.45 | hi11ie | so i just printed event in WowLua and it's nil.. i'm guessing it's only active immediateyl when an event happens? |
| 03:57.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:03.49 | hi11ie | Arrowmaster: do you have to register combatlogevent? |
| 04:04.03 | hi11ie | i am getting a bunch of thoes now even tho i'm not registering it |
| 04:18.44 | hi11ie | this actually isn't that bad |
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| 05:33.42 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt be getting combatlog events |
| 05:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ~seen Plorkyeran |
| 05:46.33 | purl | plorkyeran <n=Knightki@155.33.136.174> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 572d 5h 49m 29s ago, saying: 'I've never seen any drivers or programs that support Button6+, at least'. |
| 05:47.58 | hi11ie | hey ScytheBlade1.. i found out that the filter runs all those times in parallel with the same msg passed to it (as oppossed to filtering the same msg 7 times) |
| 05:48.09 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 05:48.56 | hi11ie | i think if i only use the filter to change the msg i'll be ok. i can't sem to find a way to separate the two parts of the msg in AddMessage :-\ |
| 05:49.06 | hi11ie | s/sem/seem |
| 05:49.19 | hi11ie | (the sender from the actual msg) |
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| 07:08.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol I love my state |
| 07:08.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.sltrib.com/ci_9509954?source=rss |
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| 07:11.34 | Thunder_Child | your state makes babies cry |
| 07:12.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably made her cry when the cop knocked on her door at 2:00 AM too |
| 07:13.00 | Thunder_Child | he should have pulled a rodny king on her ass |
| 07:13.07 | Thunder_Child | rodney? |
| 07:13.10 | Thunder_Child | meh |
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| 07:40.05 | Thunder_Child | get something new Fisker- |
| 07:44.11 | Fisker- | OGM OGMGOMGOGMG |
| 07:44.21 | Fisker- | seems like ubisoft is willing to let us in on some games us europeans |
| 07:44.37 | Fisker- | <Name>Petz Catz 2 Danish</Name> |
| 07:44.38 | Fisker- | See! |
| 07:44.40 | Fisker- | We get petz |
| 07:44.42 | Fisker- | in danish!1 |
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| 07:45.16 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker- |
| 07:45.16 | purl | beats Fisker- to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 07:45.28 | Fisker- | I WIN THE GAME |
| 07:45.46 | Thunder_Child | no, purl has anti-spam |
| 07:46.25 | Thunder_Child | s/spam/flood/ |
| 07:51.17 | ScytheBlade1 | "It's just about 2:00 AM. Why are you writing XML?" "Because I hate myself?" |
| 07:51.25 | ScytheBlade1 | --Me, talking with Me, at 2:00 AM. |
| 07:56.38 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1, if your ever going to be popular with yourself you need to have more interesting conversatinos |
| 07:56.43 | Thunder_Child | conversations* |
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| 08:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | TC-Away: pfft, details |
| 08:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | This is probably a bad time to ask... how do I reference textures that I've created with XML in lua, if I don't name them and use _G ? |
| 08:05.07 | Kirov | ScytheBlade1 - the frame has a name, yes? |
| 08:05.11 | Kirov | just not the texture |
| 08:05.25 | Kirov | frame:GetRegions() |
| 08:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, heh. Okay, that works. |
| 08:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | And I can anchor a texture relative to $parent in the XML, right? |
| 08:08.56 | Kirov | sure |
| 08:09.09 | Kirov | if you don't specify it assumes parent |
| 08:09.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, right |
| 08:09.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks |
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| 08:47.22 | Mike-N-Go | I have an idea. I think a mod that would track the world PvP objectives would be cool. All the first version would be is for Terokkar Forest, and the Auchindoun towers. It would track the time to the next neutral, so one can see the countdown when not in said zone. |
| 08:49.43 | Mike-N-Go | It could be called 'World PvP Timers' or some-such. |
| 09:00.22 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=93012#post93012 there we are. |
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| 11:36.54 | nevcairiel | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/324900b973a9f36972562a664def94cd.jpg |
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| 12:37.46 | Hapnintwo | were: i have same problem but disk is still working, only if i write on him sometimes computer freeze |
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| 12:55.38 | wereHamster | current_pending_count should not indicate problems, the disk should reallocate these sectors, rigth? |
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| 13:09.49 | Hapnintwo | were: old scandisk can do that but im not sure that current can |
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| 18:45.18 | Shirik | wo? |
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| 18:50.15 | Lopeppeppy | WTB working forum search. *sigh* |
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| 18:56.06 | Gnarfoz | srsly I need help finding an addon I once saw on wowi :\ |
| 18:56.26 | nevcairiel | which is that? |
| 18:56.29 | Gnarfoz | its purpose was to give you a bigger (I don't know if it was resizable) macro icon choser frame |
| 18:56.33 | Gnarfoz | can't find it >_< |
| 18:56.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 19:07.29 | Gnarfoz | heh, hooray for the bin of rubbish the ace svn has become, it's there: LargerMacroIconSelection ;D |
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| 19:19.50 | Industrial | rofl <Bob From Accounting> |
| 19:20.05 | foxlit | Bob <Accounting> ? |
| 19:22.45 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 19:23.09 | Gnarfoz | I need to transfer to english language server so people would get that ;D |
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| 19:53.39 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
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| 20:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | When will the 'must be identified before you can talk' be lifted? I only ask because you can't change nicks while you're in the channel if you aren't identified :P |
| 20:17.15 | Shirik | we lifted it a few days ago |
| 20:17.20 | Shirik | it was ok for a few days and came back |
| 20:17.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 20:17.48 | Shirik | I'll talk to Cairenn :) |
| 20:17.53 | Lopeppeppy | If the spammers persist, so will the recognition requirement. *fatalistic shrug* |
| 20:19.21 | Shirik | oh how I love this client |
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| 20:19.22 | Shirik | and its ability to reduce netsplit spam |
| 20:19.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Welcome to this... decade? |
| 20:19.48 | Shirik | mirc doesn't do it! |
| 20:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | (Time to hate on mIRC more!) |
| 20:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I know! |
| 20:19.48 | Shirik | but nbs-irc does |
| 20:19.48 | Shirik | godliness |
| 20:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | And... irssi does! |
| 20:20.43 | Gnarfoz | I should look for a plugin for x-chat that does it :\ |
| 20:21.25 | Gnarfoz | I mean, I'm connecting to irssi-proxy anyway, but irssi on windows just... isn't right :D |
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| 20:21.54 | Shirik | #freenode has gone to hell |
| 20:21.54 | Shirik | a couple of net splits and you'd think the world is ending |
| 20:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 20:23.10 | Shirik | I mean, based on the nicks, it's only one server |
| 20:23.13 | Shirik | the same ones keep joining and parting |
| 20:23.13 | ScytheBlade1 | -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net |
| 20:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net |
| 20:23.40 | ScytheBlade1 | So yes. ;) |
| 20:23.40 | Shirik | that means nothing ScytheBlade1 :) |
| 20:23.40 | Shirik | netsplit quit messages indicate the server you're on, not the server that is splitting |
| 20:23.41 | Shirik | eg., I see (16:22:08) - Netsplit (brown.freenode.net - irc.freenode.net) 15 quits: |
| 20:23.55 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I get for talking! |
| 20:23.59 | Shirik | :) |
| 20:24.43 | Industrial | Why doesnt warcraftmovies use google/youtube to stream? |
| 20:25.02 | Industrial | and why ni the world dont embedded flash players have the fullscreen button? |
| 20:25.04 | Industrial | blows |
| 20:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Flash sucks |
| 20:25.19 | Industrial | almost makes me wanna seaqrch for the vid on youtube.com and watch+fullscreen it there |
| 20:25.38 | Industrial | its nicer then waiting 30 mins for an avi if you are just watching some vids |
| 20:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Except that flash still sucks! |
| 20:25.55 | Industrial | (30 mins, cause they will never let you download at max speed (say 2.4mbit)) |
| 20:26.30 | Gnarfoz | Silverlight is obviously the solution |
| 20:26.59 | Industrial | ~lart Gnarfoz |
| 20:26.59 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after Gnarfoz's head |
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| 20:27.41 | Gnarfoz | pff random silly comments if what you get for random flames of products that somehow managed to make it to 99% market penetration regardless of their sucking |
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| 20:29.12 | Gnarfoz | I don't remember flash player ever costing anything ;) |
| 20:29.27 | Gnarfoz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-bravo-bunny.jpg :D |
| 20:29.34 | Shirik | Gnarfoz: tell that to the security folks |
| 20:29.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 20:30.32 | Gnarfoz | ... station. |
| 20:30.41 | Shirik | ... station |
| 20:30.44 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa doesn't count. *grin* |
| 20:30.57 | Gnarfoz | also, no one can recommend a netsplit 'simplifier' for xchat? |
| 20:31.12 | ScytheBlade1 | It's actually really quite accurate. I'm just incredibly glad that I quit my last job (windows admin) before that flash vulnerability was made public. |
| 20:31.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's small business, but it's also ~70 computers over a 50 mile stretch. I don't want to fix that, but I would have had to, and quickly. |
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| 20:31.49 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:31.53 | Gnarfoz | whatever your non-existing alternative to flash is, it could have faced the same situation |
| 20:31.53 | Shirik | I GET IT NOW |
| 20:32.01 | ScytheBlade1 | It's actually pretty simple |
| 20:32.03 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 got fired from his job and wanted to make them pay |
| 20:32.04 | Fisker- | SHIRIK |
| 20:32.05 | Fisker- | HI |
| 20:32.05 | ScytheBlade1 | "I don't have flash installed." |
| 20:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | BAM. |
| 20:32.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I actually quit and they didn't want me to :P |
| 20:32.14 | Gnarfoz | yeah, don't use half the internet ;D |
| 20:32.16 | Shirik | so he spent the next few months analyzing their #1 tool |
| 20:32.20 | Gnarfoz | I bet you're using elinks. |
| 20:32.26 | ScytheBlade1 | SeaMonkey. |
| 20:32.26 | Shirik | and released the flash vulnerability to the public |
| 20:32.32 | Shirik | admit it ScytheBlade1! I figured you out! |
| 20:32.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I figured myself out long ago - I'm a troll who can be helpful at times ;) |
| 20:32.54 | Shirik | <3 |
| 20:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | But I seriously do *not* have flash installed |
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| 20:34.04 | Gnarfoz | gnash? |
| 20:34.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 20:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Nothing that can play flash |
| 20:34.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Anywhere! |
| 20:34.27 | Gnarfoz | heh, gg |
| 20:35.24 | Fisker- | you go girl |
| 20:36.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Since they opened the flash specs, maybe we'll get a decent player out there that behaves nicely, doesn't steal my browser focus, and lets me configure what it can and cannot do to whatever extent I please |
| 20:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Then, maybe. Maybe. |
| 20:36.46 | Fisker- | see |
| 20:36.48 | Fisker- | you can't stop me |
| 20:37.04 | Shirik | can't I? |
| 20:37.16 | Fisker- | it's pretty obvious that you can't |
| 20:37.33 | Gnarfoz | somehow, flash doesn't steal my browser focus :D |
| 20:38.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Well you're on irssi, so maybe you're not on windows |
| 20:38.19 | Gnarfoz | I'm not on irssi |
| 20:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:37 [Freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from Gnarfoz: irssi v0.8.12 |
| 20:38.34 | Gnarfoz | so? look moar. |
| 20:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd take effort :P |
| 20:38.48 | Gnarfoz | X-Chat's version reply should make it through, too |
| 20:39.01 | Gnarfoz | that's irssi w/ irssiproxy ^^ |
| 20:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to run a few more CTCP queries and I'm lazy ;) |
| 20:39.11 | Gnarfoz | in lieu of a bouncer |
| 20:39.58 | ScytheBlade1 | On windows, I can click the flash object, and hit 'play' |
| 20:40.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Then scroll my mouse wheel and the page scrolls |
| 20:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ... not on linux! The flash applet steals all keyboard and mouse focus until I click on another tab |
| 20:40.25 | Gnarfoz | tried another browser? :> |
| 20:40.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Firefox, seamonkey, opera |
| 20:42.22 | Corrodias | on windows, the flash applet takes SOME of the keyboard input and i don't know whether the scrollwheel works... |
| 20:42.36 | Corrodias | you can't control+tab to change tabs, for example, if the flash applet has focus |
| 20:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Besides, I want more control than they'll ever give me. I don't want it to be able to open popups or play *any audio at all* until I tell it to |
| 20:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Further I want it to behave nicely with my audio system instead of locking exclusive control of the sound card :P |
| 20:43.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd also be really nice if it didn't eat my CPU alive. That'd be just great. |
| 20:44.07 | ScytheBlade1 | (And hence, flash isn't installed) |
| 20:46.34 | Shirik | funny thing at where I work |
| 20:46.38 | Shirik | they never installed flash |
| 20:46.48 | Shirik | none of the computers have them |
| 20:46.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Could users? |
| 20:46.57 | Shirik | until.... the vulnerability was released |
| 20:47.04 | Shirik | magically my computer had flash the next day |
| 20:48.04 | Shirik | I think users could probably install it; I can install almost anything |
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| 20:48.08 | Shirik | I can't mess with services, that's about it |
| 20:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's awesome |
| 20:48.49 | Gnarfoz | ScytheBlade1: the audio thing really is a linux problem, even XMMS can do it ;> |
| 20:48.49 | Shirik | I started changing permissions on the network drive the other day |
| 20:48.49 | Shirik | IT never contacted me about it so I guess it's ok |
| 20:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: no, it's a flash thing, as how I've configured my audio, it takes some *real effort* to lock the soundcard. |
| 20:48.49 | Shirik | I can't run my programs from the network drive though, it's so stupid |
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| 20:49.06 | Shirik | some kind of security exception because the network drive isn't "trusted" and I can't figure it out |
| 20:49.15 | Shirik | it's some .NET thing |
| 20:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Add it to the trusted sites zone |
| 20:49.23 | Shirik | I don't know how |
| 20:49.33 | Shirik | I read something about a command to run and I thought I ran it, but it didn't do anything |
| 20:49.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Fire up IE |
| 20:49.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Tools --> Internet Options --> Trusted Sites |
| 20:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | From there you can add the server in question |
| 20:53.06 | Shirik | in the form //foo/bar ? |
| 20:53.12 | Shirik | or can I do F:\ ? |
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| 20:54.00 | Shirik | I really wish I knew WHY this was happening (why it mattered) |
| 20:55.10 | Shirik | bye scytheblade |
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| 20:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Stupid freenode |
| 20:57.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik, what was the last thing you got from me? |
| 20:58.18 | Shirik | (16:49:53) (ScytheBlade1) From there you can add the server in question |
| 20:58.18 | Shirik | (16:52:51) (@Shirik) in the form //foo/bar ? |
| 20:58.18 | Shirik | (16:52:58) (@Shirik) or can I do F:\ ? |
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| 20:58.18 | Shirik | (16:53:46) (@Shirik) I really wish I knew WHY this was happening (why it mattered) |
| 20:58.18 | Shirik | (16:54:16) - Quit: ScytheBlade1 (n=Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1) |
| 20:58.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I was seeing >200 seconds of latency there :( |
| 20:58.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't do F:\ |
| 20:58.37 | Shirik | seconds? |
| 20:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Have to do \\server |
| 20:58.50 | Tuller | random pinging, bah :P |
| 20:58.55 | Shirik | sorry Tuller >.> |
| 20:59.05 | Shirik | l2join@bettertime imo |
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| 20:59.15 | Adys_ | bah |
| 20:59.21 | Adys_ | Does anyone have the Guile of Khoraazi dagger? I'd like to know its dps ingame |
| 20:59.28 | Adys_ | (eg without using a db) |
| 20:59.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Add it by the DNS name if you can |
| 21:00.41 | Shirik | I'm not really sure of the DNS name |
| 21:00.49 | Shirik | easy way to find it? |
| 21:01.07 | Shirik | also, can I just add a certain path there? |
| 21:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | in a command prompt, "net use" |
| 21:01.12 | Shirik | i.e., I only trust my programs? |
| 21:01.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Should list all of your drives and what they're mapped to |
| 21:01.35 | ScytheBlade1 | And maybe, try to throw a path on the end |
| 21:01.42 | ScytheBlade1 | (I've only ever used it to trust entire servers) |
| 21:01.53 | Shirik | I mean no real reason I can't trust everyone |
| 21:01.57 | Shirik | I was just curious |
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| 21:06.12 | Gnarfoz | Adys: is that the consortium exalted one? |
| 21:07.02 | Adys_ | Yeah, but dont worry about it |
| 21:07.03 | Adys_ | sorted it |
| 21:07.14 | Gnarfoz | k, could have flown to the vendor for ya ;) |
| 21:07.33 | Adys | no worries :) |
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| 21:11.45 | Shirik | mmm |
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| 21:11.58 | Shirik | cookies and cream ice cream with whipped cream, hot fudge, and of course, a cherry on top |
| 21:12.05 | Shirik | I think freenode needs that right now :) |
| 21:14.44 | kd3 | wth is with the network today? |
| 21:15.04 | ScytheBlade1 | No idea |
| 21:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I was about to ask a question that was dangerously on-topic, and then I realized that 90% of the channel had poofed on me. |
| 21:20.36 | Shirik | kd3: According to #freenode it's not their fault |
| 21:20.42 | Shirik | but they're working on it |
| 21:20.57 | Shirik | personally I'm surprised no wallops have gone out about it |
| 21:21.03 | Shirik | but I guess they're trying to deal with the issue first |
| 21:21.16 | kd3 | ya... I've been checking every now and then to make sure I'm +w |
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| 21:28.03 | p3lim | anyone has Firefox + Flash Player 9.0.124 working? I cant play stuff (youtube etc), asks for latest version (which i have) |
| 21:28.42 | kd3 | noscript blocking it? |
| 21:29.54 | p3lim | hm dont have that plugin |
| 21:30.05 | kd3 | javascript turned on? |
| 21:30.33 | p3lim | hm where can i check that |
| 21:31.06 | kd3 | tools -> preferences |
| 21:31.39 | p3lim | yup its up |
| 21:31.58 | kd3 | go to about:plugins, make sure flash is properly installed |
| 21:32.17 | p3lim | ok |
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| 21:32.55 | p3lim | aint even on that page :S |
| 21:33.03 | Shirik | :( why |
| 21:33.09 | kd3 | then it isn't installed. windows? linux? os x? |
| 21:33.13 | p3lim | winxp |
| 21:33.15 | ScytheBlade1 | XML question! If I declare a local in <OnLoad>, can I reference the same local in <OnEvent> ? |
| 21:33.26 | kd3 | rerun the flash installer. exit out the way out of firefox before you start it |
| 21:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Or do I get to use globals to do that? |
| 21:33.27 | Shirik | oh, lol |
| 21:33.29 | Shirik | lolol |
| 21:33.30 | p3lim | brb food, ill try fix it or ask later, thanks for your time kd3 |
| 21:33.42 | Shirik | no you can't ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:33.49 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 21:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | But 'k, that answers that |
| 21:34.09 | Shirik | *cough*butdontusexmlanyway*cough* |
| 21:34.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait a minute |
| 21:34.27 | ScytheBlade1 | WAIT A MINUTE |
| 21:34.33 | ScytheBlade1 | SHIRIK ANSWERED AN XML RELATED QUESTION |
| 21:34.37 | Shirik | yes, yes I did |
| 21:36.23 | Shirik | despite my hate for it, I do know the XML from when RDX had to use it |
| 21:36.31 | Shirik | thank god those days are over |
| 21:37.17 | ScytheBlade1 | So far, my only complaint is the number of globals that frames via XML uses |
| 21:37.30 | ScytheBlade1 | What can be done with 0 globals in lua suddenly takes a lot more with xml |
| 21:37.55 | ScytheBlade1 | (Which makes me question just how much 'polluting' _G really matters) |
| 21:38.31 | Shirik | just because you can doesn't mean you should :) |
| 21:38.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I mean within realistic bounds, I don't mean I'm putting everything in _G ;) |
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| 21:44.23 | Gnarfoz | wtb firefox wowwiki search plugin for wow api :\ |
| 21:47.30 | Shirik | Cide :( wtb bot |
| 21:47.37 | Cide | >>> require |
| 21:47.37 | Cide | Cide: nil |
| 21:47.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide is nil! Cide is nil! |
| 21:47.57 | Cide | your mom |
| 21:48.24 | Cide | sorry, that was the bot |
| 21:48.29 | ScytheBlade1 | uh-huh |
| 21:59.09 | ScytheBlade1 | On the bright side, re-writing this addon of mine in XML is actually helping a ton |
| 22:05.13 | Cide | lies. filthy lies |
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| 22:21.30 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 22:21.31 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 22:22.01 | Gnarfoz | ~emulate shirik |
| 22:22.01 | purl | I'll answer that in a few minutes when this web page has finished loading... |
| 22:22.10 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:22.18 | Gnarfoz | entirely random, nevermind |
| 22:22.19 | Shirik | oh, dialup |
| 22:22.24 | Shirik | funny >.> |
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| 22:27.51 | Gnarfoz | urgh Secure Frames are hell if you're trying to fix an addon by the guy who wrote half of the secure frame stuff :\ |
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| 22:42.09 | Shirik | So I managed to get under the elevator in UC somehow |
| 22:42.39 | Thunder_Child | by walking? |
| 22:43.41 | Shirik | .. |
| 22:43.52 | Shirik | the doors are supposed to stop you from doing this |
| 22:44.14 | Thunder_Child | why were you walking into the doors then? |
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| 23:05.37 | Shirik | ok this script is annoying omg |
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